| 00:00.52 | Jamash | http |
| 00:01.02 | Jamash | damn it adiIRC |
| 00:04.46 | Jamash | so what do you do when your addon is so complicated you don't know how it works anymore |
| 00:06.31 | bluspacecow | toss it out and rewrite it |
| 00:06.38 | Jamash | I'm so close to doing that |
| 00:06.51 | Jamash | I'd really rather keep most of what I have though |
| 00:09.03 | foxlit | poke it with sticks |
| 00:09.45 | zenzelezz | I'm sure some would say "refactor", but that's not very easy when you've already lost control |
| 00:10.16 | zenzelezz | I usually end up starting from one corner, tracing flow and trying to jot down a sort of list/chart |
| 00:10.26 | zenzelezz | not that it's always very effective |
| 00:10.32 | Jamash | that's what I'm thinking about right now |
| 00:11.12 | Jamash | The entire flow of the addon is related to when spells appear in and disappear from the spellbook |
| 00:11.13 | foxlit | put a giant "DRAGONS!" comment around it and carry on? |
| 00:11.55 | Jamash | and I'm having bugs with guild perk spells which don't behave like class spells |
| 00:13.27 | Jamash | and wow's event model is just such a pain to try to figure out without an in-game debugg/trace tool |
| 00:13.52 | bluspacecow | http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxwv67WWxY1qf9zleo1_500.gif |
| 00:14.16 | foxlit | I guess the bigger pain is that your guild doesn't gain/lose abilities at will |
| 00:14.17 | Jamash | my dad used to do that with me when I was little |
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| 00:47.07 | Arrowmaster | its kinda annoying how easy it to forget these subtitles are messed up and missing a t everytime there should be a 't, like won't is won' |
| 01:05.24 | Shirik | oh Cide |
| 01:05.30 | Shirik | reinterpret_cast from void* is going to be legal soon |
| 01:05.50 | zenzelezz | one does not simply reinterpret_cast<>() into Mordor |
| 01:07.18 | Corrodias | i've read about what reinterpret_cast means, and i haven't been able to understand it |
| 01:07.46 | zenzelezz | it's rougly like a C cast, telling the compiler "yo man, trust me, I know what I'm doing" |
| 01:07.56 | Corrodias | how's it different from just (type)? |
| 01:08.00 | bluspacecow | "yo man i got this" |
| 01:08.03 | zenzelezz | it's a C++ cast |
| 01:08.09 | zenzelezz | it's *slightly* different, I think |
| 01:08.28 | bluspacecow | pinkies extended. |
| 01:08.46 | zenzelezz | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/332030/when-should-static-cast-dynamic-cast-and-reinterpret-cast-be-used |
| 01:08.57 | Corrodias | oh boy, here we go |
| 01:08.59 | Corrodias | thanks |
| 01:09.10 | Shirik | Corrodias: In C++ you do not use a C-style cast |
| 01:09.23 | Shirik | every time you use (type) to cast, god kills a kitten |
| 01:09.36 | Corrodias | why's that? |
| 01:09.56 | foxlit | because madness. |
| 01:10.01 | zenzelezz | like that thread says, it's essentially trying every cast is can think of until it succeeds |
| 01:10.04 | Corrodias | foxlit: we're in C++. we're already there. |
| 01:10.12 | foxlit | Corrodias: my point exactly. |
| 01:10.21 | Shirik | because its only reason for existence is to support backwards compatibility; there are situations where it can do two different things and you don't want to go down that road |
| 01:10.22 | foxlit | might as well invent 7 different casting semantics. |
| 01:10.36 | Shirik | you should be telling the compiler exactly what you want it to do |
| 01:10.45 | Corrodias | all right |
| 01:11.29 | Corrodias | "it's important to note that the T(something) syntax is equivalent to (T)something" -- what? what's T, here? |
| 01:11.55 | foxlit | fancy constructor calling convention? |
| 01:12.11 | Corrodias | are you telling me that C++ doesn't use a constructor when you pass a single argument? |
| 01:12.21 | Shirik | huh? |
| 01:12.24 | foxlit | I'm absolutely clueless. |
| 01:12.33 | Corrodias | the first paragraph of the top answer, Shirik |
| 01:13.01 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 01:13.03 | Corrodias | i'm assuming T is any class here |
| 01:13.04 | Shirik | that's a fun one |
| 01:13.39 | Shirik | if a valid conversion exists, T(v) will first attempt to call the conversion operator before it looks for a constructor |
| 01:13.59 | zenzelezz | now tell him about the most vexing parse! |
| 01:14.22 | Corrodias | wow. i have no words. |
| 01:14.34 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I don't want to kill him |
| 01:14.37 | Shirik | just watch him squirm |
| 01:15.23 | Corrodias | i've written C++ stuff, but don't understand a quarter of how the language works, and for the most part don't want to, because it's horrifying |
| 01:15.33 | Arrowmaster | my fortune cookie says "LEARN CHINESE - Hello - ni hao" |
| 01:15.46 | Arrowmaster | i didnt need a fortune cookie to teach me that |
| 01:15.47 | Corrodias | it's like trying to learn how to be insane |
| 01:16.29 | Shirik | Corrodias: The important thing here is you only stick to the subset of C++ that is good for you |
| 01:16.39 | Shirik | there are things you need to know and a lot of things that are just things to make C work |
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| 01:16.49 | Shirik | if you eliminate all knowledge of the latter half, you have a pretty elegant language |
| 01:20.36 | Shirik | I will, however, teach you this Corrodias (a slightly easier version of zenzelezz's question, and something that might actually come up) |
| 01:20.54 | Shirik | void main() { Foo foo(); } |
| 01:20.58 | Shirik | What does that line inside main do? |
| 01:21.13 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 01:21.27 | zenzelezz | for someone who knows C++, how can you use "void main"? |
| 01:21.28 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:21.38 | Shirik | most compilers accept it |
| 01:21.46 | zenzelezz | that's irrelevant |
| 01:21.52 | Shirik | I had written int main() but then was too lazy to put a return statement |
| 01:21.58 | kd3 | hell, what's the first thing you're taught in java? public static void main() |
| 01:22.03 | Shirik | so I went back and swapped it with void so you all didn't complain about that |
| 01:22.11 | foxlit | kd3: String[] argds |
| 01:22.13 | Shirik | apparently I still got complaints |
| 01:22.20 | jnwhiteh | indeed =/ |
| 01:22.33 | zenzelezz | you're in a channel full of nitpickers |
| 01:22.38 | kd3 | you're trying to do something with a bunch of pedants |
| 01:22.46 | foxlit | worse |
| 01:22.53 | Iriel | Shirik: if someone else did it you'd nitpick them |
| 01:23.01 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 01:23.02 | Shirik | totally true |
| 01:23.34 | Shirik | but Corrodias has not yet answered the question :( |
| 01:23.42 | Shirik | I think I might have given him brain damage |
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| 01:38.38 | Corrodias | i had to go wash andstuff |
| 01:39.43 | Corrodias | what i think it will do is search the imports it has and any namespaces you've declared you're using for a static function called "foo", then implicitly cast its return type to a Foo, then discard it |
| 01:39.51 | Corrodias | *its return value |
| 01:42.45 | Shirik | Corrodias: It declares a function called foo which returs a Foo. |
| 01:42.49 | Shirik | and takes no arguments |
| 01:43.04 | Shirik | This is distinct from `Foo foo;` which creates an object, named foo, of type Foo |
| 01:43.22 | Corrodias | wat |
| 01:44.58 | Shirik | wat = https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newt_Gingrich&diff=prev&oldid=481242031 |
| 01:45.32 | Dagmar | Everyone knows he eats babies. That doesn't need a citation. |
| 01:46.42 | Maldivia | Shirik: sounds about right ? :) |
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| 02:17.38 | foxlit | http://kanzel.deviantart.com/art/Mass-Effect-3-Ending-Abridged-289647068 |
| 02:18.10 | foxlit | amusing, and probably not spoilery. |
| 02:21.35 | kd3 | ! |
| 02:21.56 | kd3 | the guvmint withdrew the IANA contract from ICANN? |
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| 02:30.37 | bluspacecow | *dons hat* work tiems. later guys. |
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| 02:45.46 | Dagmar | What |
| 02:46.11 | Dagmar | kd3: URL? |
| 02:46.15 | Cidan | Shirik: you here? |
| 02:46.40 | kd3 | http://www.ntia.doc.gov/other-publication/2012/notice-internet-assigned-numbers-authority-iana-functions-request-proposal-rf |
| 02:47.06 | Dagmar | Fuck |
| 02:47.10 | Cidan | No thanks |
| 02:47.14 | Cidan | Shirik: ping ping ping |
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| 03:18.38 | kd3 | hm. I wonder if my cellphone is going to go off at 6:30 like I hope it will or at 7:30 like it says it will |
| 03:18.44 | kd3 | loves daylight savings time switches |
| 03:19.51 | Dagmar | If it's not a bag phone it should know what to do. |
| 04:02.46 | karl_w_w | blue post: "we arent even in beta yet, and we want to retain as much opportunity as possible to respond to player feedback throughout the rest of this process. Things will change for priests, and every other class, over the coming weeks." |
| 04:03.01 | karl_w_w | reads that as "beta within a few weeks" |
| 04:03.33 | nilyaK | reads that as bring back the hype! (for real this time) |
| 04:05.20 | nilyaK | Where's sixen when you need him to laugh at your obscure references. |
| 04:05.48 | karl_w_w | chuckles at nilyaK's obscure reference |
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| 04:42.31 | airtonix | can't wait for the ripping suspense that will be mass effect 4 |
| 04:42.52 | Arrowmaster | theres going to be a 4th? |
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| 04:43.24 | airtonix | you've only got three appendages? |
| 04:44.39 | Dagmar | You think maybe in 4 Ashley might notice the boobies? |
| 04:45.03 | Arrowmaster | still hasnt played 2 |
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| 05:03.12 | pompy | im almost done with one, I'm on Feros. |
| 05:06.44 | Arrowmaster | is that one of the first 3 main story missions? |
| 05:07.49 | pompy | yeah after you are promoted |
| 05:08.16 | pompy | you can either go to Noveria, Rescue Liara T'Soni or go to Feros |
| 05:08.29 | Arrowmaster | you arent almost done |
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| 05:08.36 | pompy | lol ya ya |
| 05:09.52 | pompy | Virmire: Landing | Virmire: Assault | Race Against Time | Ilos: Find the Conduit | Race Against Time: Final Battle .. thats what i have left after Feros |
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| 05:30.21 | karl_w_w | im about 30 minutes into the original mass effect |
| 05:31.08 | pompy | i'm 11 hrs in! (however it records it!) |
| 05:31.31 | Arrowmaster | my first playthrough was some 60 hours |
| 05:32.26 | karl_w_w | are subsequent plays longer or shorter? :P |
| 05:32.51 | Arrowmaster | dont know i havent finished my 2nd |
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| 05:36.02 | Dagmar | Depends on whether or not you've gotten bored with the dancing girls. |
| 05:36.30 | Dagmar | So... if you're 15, it probably won't be much shorter |
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| 05:49.45 | Gnarfoz | topic should be "if your country does daylight savings today" :P |
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| 06:05.35 | bluworkcow | wot is daylight savings ? can u eat it ? |
| 06:06.27 | starlon | eats bluburger. |
| 06:07.40 | starlon | hold the mayo |
| 06:08.48 | bluworkcow | hey! |
| 06:08.53 | bluworkcow | u taste good with mayo |
| 06:08.54 | bluworkcow | :( |
| 06:09.01 | bluworkcow | i mean i taste good with mayo |
| 06:09.21 | starlon | eww |
| 06:09.27 | starlon | nope.avi |
| 06:09.33 | starlon | : |
| 06:09.46 | starlon | Fisker knows what's up. |
| 06:15.44 | bluworkcow | *shakes salt and pepper on self* |
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| 06:28.29 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 06:35.43 | starlon | ok oh |
| 06:35.46 | starlon | oreo |
| 06:35.48 | starlon | ok oh |
| 06:35.51 | starlon | oreo |
| 06:36.01 | bluworkcow | ohaio ? |
| 06:36.08 | starlon | potato |
| 06:36.15 | bluworkcow | i just eats ! |
| 06:36.23 | starlon | sandwich? |
| 06:36.25 | starlon | make me one |
| 06:36.36 | starlon | grins from ear to ear. |
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| 06:40.05 | bluworkcow | lol. no. |
| 06:40.10 | bluworkcow | i make you sammich instead! |
| 06:46.44 | bluworkcow | === |
| 06:46.47 | bluworkcow | ~~~ |
| 06:46.49 | bluworkcow | === |
| 06:46.54 | bluworkcow | ^ sammich! |
| 06:47.13 | starlon | is that bluburger? |
| 06:47.20 | bluworkcow | yarr |
| 06:47.23 | starlon | omg |
| 06:47.28 | starlon | devours. |
| 06:56.59 | Arrowmaster | lmao http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qr3be/dropkick_murphys_just_saved_a_guys_life_whats_the/c3zsic8 |
| 06:58.25 | bluworkcow | wats a dropkick murphy ? |
| 06:58.33 | Arrowmaster | band |
| 06:58.50 | bluworkcow | oh |
| 07:14.33 | airtonix | yarrr |
| 07:14.36 | airtonix | aharr |
| 07:15.15 | Sixen | nilyaK: Clan Hall? :) |
| 07:16.30 | Arrowmaster | some of the stories in this are just awesome, NIN playing in the mud http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qr3be/dropkick_murphys_just_saved_a_guys_life_whats_the/c3zt4lh?context=2 |
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| 07:19.23 | Arrowmaster | mosh pit stops to find glasses http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/qr3be/dropkick_murphys_just_saved_a_guys_life_whats_the/c3zs55n |
| 07:21.18 | Fisker | i'm sick bluworkcow |
| 07:21.23 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/tieP5.jpg |
| 07:21.32 | bluworkcow | :( |
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| 07:39.31 | starlon | runs a lab test on Fisker. |
| 07:40.55 | Fisker | i'm very sick starlon |
| 07:41.02 | starlon | sorry :( |
| 08:21.39 | nilyaK | Sixen: yes |
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| 08:41.58 | Torhal|work- | tosses Fisker into a decontamination room. |
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| 08:53.57 | Sixen | :) |
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| 10:04.58 | mikma | fisker: http://youtu.be/Bq8QohoDkEk?hd=1 |
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| 10:29.14 | starlon | Microsoft's going to die and win the awards. |
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| 11:28.14 | airtonix | hey Torhal |
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| 11:58.45 | starlon | airtonix: Do you ever sleep? |
| 11:58.52 | airtonix | only with your mum |
| 11:59.05 | starlon | you're always up when I should be sleeping, so it makes me wonder |
| 11:59.22 | starlon | oh wait. you're a filthy euro-peeing. |
| 11:59.33 | starlon | hides. |
| 11:59.47 | airtonix | oh right because planet earth = amurika & eurotrash |
| 12:00.04 | starlon | you're saying you're from mars |
| 12:00.25 | airtonix | i'm saying you got ripped off with your edamukashun |
| 12:00.48 | starlon | Hell yeah I got ripped off. |
| 12:00.58 | starlon | 50k in debt and I'm still dumb. |
| 12:01.44 | starlon | I never let my schooling get in the way of my education. :P |
| 12:02.03 | starlon | I think Einstein said that. Can't recall. |
| 12:08.34 | starlon | airtonix: Where are you from really? |
| 12:09.01 | airtonix | starlon: adelaide |
| 12:09.02 | starlon | I live in the wasteland known as Central Texas. |
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| 12:09.26 | starlon | Oh nice :) |
| 12:09.30 | airtonix | not really |
| 12:09.36 | starlon | You guys are getting screwed by your government too. |
| 12:09.37 | airtonix | too many hipster iphone users |
| 12:09.42 | starlon | lol |
| 12:10.55 | karl_w_w | [20:10:34] [2][Pendulous]: LF 1 DPS For RAG attempts (team learning) 378+ ilvl and vent required! |
| 12:11.04 | karl_w_w | have i gone back in time more than 1 patch? |
| 12:11.14 | starlon | lol |
| 12:11.23 | karl_w_w | only with +10 to ilvl requirement |
| 12:11.52 | starlon | Is Cataclysm coming to a close yet? |
| 12:13.06 | airtonix | starlon: i don't know, how much does your mum charge? |
| 12:13.07 | starlon | Or better yet; is WoW coming to a close yet? |
| 12:13.23 | starlon | airtonix: My Mom's the best person in the world. |
| 12:13.27 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 12:13.29 | airtonix | so free then? |
| 12:13.54 | starlon | She's also a ninja. |
| 12:14.01 | airtonix | i guess i just have to cook a good meal |
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| 12:25.13 | karl_w_w | is there like a notes addon |
| 12:25.25 | karl_w_w | i always find myself wanted to jot something down |
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| 12:42.40 | airtonix | madkarl |
| 12:42.55 | Jamash | you could use hack |
| 12:42.58 | karl_w_w | sum1 listen to this http://www.coastlive.com.au/ |
| 12:43.03 | karl_w_w | top left corner |
| 12:43.07 | karl_w_w | and tell me what song this is |
| 12:43.10 | airtonix | karl_w_w: no until you use the kings english |
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| 12:43.25 | Jamash | didn't know we had a king |
| 12:43.44 | starlon | The King is dead. |
| 12:43.47 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 12:43.50 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:43.53 | bluspacecow | fisker is your king |
| 12:43.55 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 12:44.02 | airtonix | nou |
| 12:44.10 | Jamash | kingfisker? |
| 12:44.13 | Jamash | fisker king? |
| 12:44.24 | starlon | A fisker of men. |
| 12:44.38 | Jamash | loaves and fiskers |
| 12:44.46 | airtonix | wat |
| 12:44.51 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.56 | starlon | dies. |
| 12:44.59 | bluspacecow | giggigty giggitgy |
| 12:45.09 | airtonix | you wouldn't download a fisker |
| 12:45.21 | Jamash | uploads a fisker backwards |
| 12:45.29 | bluspacecow | i would download an airtonix |
| 12:45.46 | Jamash | bittonix? |
| 12:46.06 | airtonix | you know what i love about synergy and google chrome |
| 12:46.17 | Jamash | the half-life 2 mod? |
| 12:46.30 | airtonix | please kill yourself |
| 12:46.42 | Jamash | I cannot self-terminate |
| 12:47.04 | neutronimity | He's just afraid to. |
| 12:47.14 | Jamash | Negative. |
| 12:48.17 | bluspacecow | installes Jamash 8.0 on Jamash |
| 12:48.21 | bluspacecow | now he can :P |
| 12:48.36 | Jamash | Windows Metrosexual? |
| 12:48.42 | airtonix | only noobs install version 8 |
| 12:48.44 | bluspacecow | word. |
| 12:49.01 | Jamash | becomes fashionably square. |
| 12:49.12 | airtonix | windows 8 is only going to be successful with ipad lovers |
| 12:49.32 | Jamash | installs Windows 8 on airtonix's iPad 3. |
| 12:49.42 | airtonix | that would be an upgrade |
| 12:49.55 | airtonix | i'd actually be able to do things like |
| 12:49.58 | airtonix | open notepad |
| 12:50.03 | airtonix | and |
| 12:50.07 | Jamash | there's an app for that |
| 12:50.07 | airtonix | install a theme |
| 12:50.15 | airtonix | and |
| 12:50.26 | airtonix | omg sideload software without voiding my warranty |
| 12:50.32 | Jamash | you wouldn't carjack imovie |
| 12:50.33 | airtonix | OMG HERESY! |
| 12:51.19 | neutronimity | Side question: I heard you can't multitask on an iphone/ipad? |
| 12:51.30 | Jamash | I can multitask on anything I want. |
| 12:51.39 | airtonix | so theres this company in australia that can create an iphone app (which is just a browser frame pointing at a jquery mobile webpage) |
| 12:51.48 | airtonix | for any company |
| 12:52.02 | Jamash | that's absolutely fascinating |
| 12:52.03 | airtonix | so what are the contingency plans for when apple rejects one of their clients apps |
| 12:52.31 | Jamash | rejects Mobile Safari because it can view pornography. |
| 12:52.37 | airtonix | "That's the 314th app you've uploaded which is identical to the other 313, except for the logo" |
| 12:54.10 | airtonix | i keep hearing how apple is so much more awesome than google because they have a higher application submission rejection rate |
| 12:54.37 | Jamash | The voices are lying to you. |
| 12:55.06 | Jamash | also, seriously, wat? |
| 12:55.09 | airtonix | so how does a company that says to it's clients "we can turn your hosted shopping cart page (that you have hosted on our website) into an iphone application" |
| 12:55.27 | Jamash | my app store has a 100% rejection rate |
| 12:55.35 | Jamash | clearly it's the best |
| 12:55.36 | airtonix | how do they deal with the situation where apple will at some point reject there application submissions |
| 12:56.04 | bluspacecow | http://www.mmo-champion.com/customavatars/avatar777124_1.gif |
| 12:56.31 | airtonix | bluspacecow: is that something which fascinates your libido? |
| 12:56.39 | bluspacecow | it is rather od |
| 12:56.40 | bluspacecow | odd |
| 12:57.54 | Jamash | lol, butts |
| 12:58.33 | airtonix | hey Jamash, |
| 12:58.50 | Jamash | yes, my child |
| 12:59.55 | airtonix | vi is for hentai people |
| 12:59.57 | Jamash | Reply hazy, try again later. |
| 13:00.04 | Jamash | dang |
| 13:00.36 | Jamash | actually vi is for six people |
| 13:01.11 | Jamash | also it's past by medtime |
| 13:01.41 | Jamash | tip safely, drive the buffet |
| 13:01.59 | airtonix | mad? |
| 13:02.20 | karl_w_w | if you click i still need help on a ticket does it go back to the same ticket bitch? |
| 13:02.31 | airtonix | no |
| 13:02.38 | airtonix | it puts you back at the end of the que |
| 13:08.56 | Fisker | oh so just because we don't change our clocks tonight we suddenly don't observe daylight savings |
| 13:08.59 | Fisker | thanks a lot jerks |
| 13:09.32 | bluspacecow | butts fisker |
| 13:09.35 | bluspacecow | butts. |
| 13:09.40 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 13:09.54 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 13:10.26 | airtonix | why would he be mad? |
| 13:10.40 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 13:10.45 | airtonix | i see nothing to be mad about |
| 13:10.46 | Fisker | the sickest of sick |
| 13:10.47 | bluspacecow | :| |
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| 14:17.02 | Adys | For applications, the campaign says that even free software downloads from the Google Android Market cannot be trusted and recommends that people do not use it. |
| 14:17.04 | Adys | Sigh |
| 14:17.33 | Adys | I wish, I really fucking wish free software extremists would see they're not helping their fucking cause |
| 14:18.54 | airtonix | Adys: i'm going to blow you up with a lawyer |
| 14:19.09 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:19.55 | airtonix | anyway, back to raging at marvel shci controllers |
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| 14:28.57 | airtonix | i think i'm mad |
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| 14:38.34 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: ping |
| 14:38.52 | Adys | or anyone who worked with mobile OSes, ping |
| 14:46.12 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u adys |
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| 15:40.35 | starlon | Adys: free software extremists? o.O |
| 15:40.51 | starlon | What exactly is extremist about FOSS? |
| 15:41.12 | Adys | starlon: nothing |
| 15:41.31 | Adys | I meant free software extremists as a category of people |
| 15:41.43 | Adys | not as "those extremists that support free software" |
| 15:41.46 | starlon | Oh I need to scroll back further I think. :) |
| 15:42.16 | Adys | starlon: this was something about a movement to "free android", liberating it from proprietary software |
| 15:42.18 | Adys | a noble goal |
| 15:42.34 | Adys | and then they hit you in the face with "distributing through the android market is bad! android market is proprietary!" |
| 15:42.52 | starlon | What's wrong with that? |
| 15:43.02 | Adys | it hurts their own movement? |
| 15:43.08 | starlon | How though? |
| 15:43.30 | starlon | Leave it to the user to install Android Market. |
| 15:43.31 | Adys | boycotting the android market only serves to get their software *less* spread |
| 15:43.38 | Adys | starlon: you misunderstand it |
| 15:43.47 | Adys | they discourage people from publishing on the AM |
| 15:44.24 | starlon | I don't see how that marks them as "extremists." |
| 15:44.36 | Adys | you're right, it just marks them as retarded |
| 15:45.10 | starlon | And you're locked into Google's policies otherwise? What's retarded about objecting to policy goals? |
| 15:45.39 | Adys | google's policies are loose, and they're not boycotting it because of the policies but because it's proprietary |
| 15:45.56 | Adys | boycotting a publisher, especially when you're not actually giving that publisher ANY MONEY in the first place, just prevents widespread adoption of your software |
| 15:46.14 | Adys | you want free software on android? great. nobody knows about it? too bad. |
| 15:46.31 | starlon | Well I'll be uploading my apps to Google Play regardless, but I don't see how that hurts the project in the least. |
| 15:47.01 | Adys | it's the default, readily available market app for millions of devices |
| 15:47.40 | Adys | when you want to spread a movement, you don't do it by boycotting channels of information |
| 15:48.37 | Adys | this is the equivalent of arguing for freedom of press by boycotting TV channels / newspapers and putting up a bumper sticker. |
| 15:52.09 | airtonix | starlon: umad? |
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| 15:52.39 | airtonix | Adys: in fact. It is the default application installation source for the majority of the smartphones on the PLANET |
| 15:52.50 | airtonix | smartphones and tablets! |
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| 15:53.20 | starlon | But it provides a platform for the profit machine. That's always been eschewed by FOSS supporters. |
| 15:53.38 | airtonix | wat |
| 15:55.22 | starlon | we're just communists and extremists. |
| 15:55.42 | airtonix | fuuuuuuu |
| 15:55.51 | airtonix | miui is giving shits |
| 15:56.02 | airtonix | starlon: did you introduce this to me? |
| 15:56.05 | airtonix | i kill you |
| 15:56.13 | starlon | o.O |
| 15:56.28 | starlon | bakes airtonix on high. |
| 15:56.32 | starlon | Cookies! |
| 16:00.18 | starlon | damn, /tmp is 69G >.< |
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| 16:00.46 | airtonix | i'm mad |
| 16:01.02 | starlon | umad? |
| 16:02.21 | airtonix | yes starlon i'm contemplating puttin cm9 back on my galaxy nexus |
| 16:02.32 | starlon | madness |
| 16:02.36 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.44 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.50 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.53 | starlon | never looking back |
| 16:03.00 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.04 | starlon | crap |
| 16:03.20 | airtonix | good times will be had by all |
| 16:03.39 | starlon | Not if you come to my house. |
| 16:03.43 | starlon | It's boring here. |
| 16:03.54 | starlon | I live in a corn field. |
| 16:04.30 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.51 | starlon | :( |
| 16:04.54 | starlon | you hate me :( |
| 16:05.05 | airtonix | miui is your fault |
| 16:05.32 | starlon | :> |
| 16:11.10 | starlon | damn, that 69GB is taking forever to delete... |
| 16:12.04 | Fisker | who the fuck would miui? |
| 16:12.18 | Fisker | rather gay unicorns than miui |
| 16:12.40 | starlon | I knew a gay unicorn once. |
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| 16:12.50 | starlon | Pretty cool chap. |
| 16:13.29 | Fisker | i heard jnwhiteh likes gay unicorns |
| 16:14.32 | starlon | and it's still deleting |
| 16:16.50 | foxlit | hey, Fisker, have you finished assuming direct control over me3 yet? |
| 16:17.02 | Fisker | i finished it before it was out |
| 16:18.56 | foxlit | did you choose to have everyone die in a ball of green, blue, or red light? |
| 16:19.10 | Fisker | green |
| 16:20.48 | starlon | What kind of dog is this? http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Crazy-ass-dog-569.jpg |
| 16:21.34 | starlon | a pug with a nose |
| 16:21.43 | karl_w_w | get email from health insurer containing link to "how to claim". click link. 404'd |
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| 16:23.24 | starlon | and it's STILL deleting |
| 16:24.18 | starlon | it's apparently some svn repo |
| 16:31.43 | Fisker | so umad foxlit ? |
| 16:32.40 | foxlit | I'm mad to about the same extent as that ending classifies as a climax. |
| 16:33.30 | starlon | umad |
| 16:33.32 | foxlit | Which is to say I went somewhere two hours ago and now am phoning all of the mad in. |
| 16:37.59 | Fisker | it is a while since i've seen such a spectacular bad ending |
| 16:38.30 | Fisker | they should write The Wachowski Brothers a thank you note |
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| 16:47.04 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 16:53.00 | Fisker | mad airtonix ? |
| 16:55.05 | Stanzilla | Fisker: cs:go key pls |
| 16:56.16 | Fisker | i have none Stanzilla pls |
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| 17:58.35 | Jamash | I demand a diablo III beta key and/or my replacement ipod nano |
| 17:58.48 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 17:58.59 | bluspacecow | u no has one already ? |
| 17:59.08 | Jamash | holy crap is this scroll of resurrection thing 4 realz |
| 17:59.19 | bluspacecow | ya for realz |
| 17:59.31 | Jamash | smells like desperation |
| 17:59.45 | Jamash | I'm not one to say teh skie is fallering but damn |
| 18:00.05 | Shirik | old? |
| 18:00.14 | Jamash | new to me |
| 18:00.15 | Dagmar | Smells like same thing as usual to me |
| 18:00.31 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure that's existed for like at least 3 years |
| 18:00.35 | Dagmar | How many times has Blizz said one of their big design goals is to remove tedium |
| 18:01.01 | Dagmar | If you've done 1-80 3-4 times and twice since Cata, that's tedium |
| 18:01.01 | bluspacecow | really? |
| 18:01.06 | bluspacecow | i thought it was to nerf fisker |
| 18:01.15 | Dagmar | Well, I'm all for the nerfing of FIskers |
| 18:01.33 | bluspacecow | Fisker the Hunn |
| 18:02.19 | Shirik | oh, the boost to level 80 is new |
| 18:02.23 | Shirik | Jamash wins |
| 18:02.35 | Jamash | not scroll of resurrection itself, shirik, the "one character instantly boosted to level 80, free cataclysm, free realm and faction transfer |
| 18:02.36 | Jamash | yeah |
| 18:02.39 | Jamash | " |
| 18:02.54 | Dagmar | Gods forbid people be able to play with their friends |
| 18:03.04 | Shirik | I hadn't heard about that |
| 18:03.06 | Jamash | hell I'm all for it |
| 18:04.27 | Jamash | I'd rather see realm/faction transfers become cheaper than get free ones as a one-off deal though |
| 18:04.38 | bluspacecow | @dagmar wow players have friends ? |
| 18:05.11 | Jamash | realid grouping is a great step though |
| 18:05.52 | Jamash | I love the fact that if your friends list is empty Diablo III says "You have no friends." |
| 18:06.07 | Shirik | so I have learned of a completely new way to totally destroy a LAN |
| 18:06.22 | Jamash | fire? |
| 18:06.38 | Shirik | I don't know why this had never occurred to me before, but networks get really pissy when you connect a cable between two ports on a hub |
| 18:06.47 | Shirik | and it makes sense |
| 18:06.48 | Jamash | that's awesome |
| 18:06.50 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 18:06.57 | bluspacecow | u trolling networks now shirik ? |
| 18:07.05 | Jamash | is it a hub or a switch? |
| 18:07.10 | Shirik | a hub |
| 18:07.13 | Jamash | hubs r bad |
| 18:07.30 | Shirik | someone did it at work, and what's worse they also connected the phone system to it too |
| 18:07.35 | bluspacecow | hubs r lolz |
| 18:07.35 | Shirik | so literally everything went down |
| 18:07.38 | nevcairiel | your work still has hubs? |
| 18:07.41 | Jamash | zoinks scoop |
| 18:07.44 | Jamash | scoob |
| 18:07.48 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Apparently |
| 18:07.50 | bluspacecow | ruh roh raggy |
| 18:07.54 | nevcairiel | i havent seen a hub in years |
| 18:07.55 | Shirik | I don't really believe in our IT very much |
| 18:07.57 | bluspacecow | *pats shirik sympatically* |
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| 18:08.19 | nevcairiel | anyway, basic switches still suffer from the same problem, but any smart switch can detect loops and disable the ports |
| 18:08.28 | Jamash | IT stands for incomprehensible terminology |
| 18:08.51 | Jamash | oh also watch The IT Crowd, it are funny |
| 18:09.10 | Jamash | in that cringe-inducing britcom kind of way |
| 18:09.30 | bluspacecow | have you tried turning it off and on again ? |
| 18:09.56 | Jamash | well, in this case, the answer to "Is it plugged in" would be "Yes, twice!" |
| 18:10.17 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4175418800 |
| 18:10.18 | Jamash | hubcest? |
| 18:10.19 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 18:10.58 | Jamash | ooh a cascade, I love cascades |
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| 18:14.06 | Shirik | "The average 4channer is 34." |
| 18:14.08 | Shirik | is that true? |
| 18:14.23 | nevcairiel | how would we know? |
| 18:14.38 | nevcairiel | 4channers are trolls, they dont say the truth on the interwebs |
| 18:15.03 | Jamash | the average 4channer is 7 ft tall, has a 12 inch wang and earns $213,000,000 a year |
| 18:15.11 | Jamash | it's true I read it on /b/ |
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| 18:21.17 | Jamash | APPLE Y U NO SHIP IPOD |
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| 18:28.35 | Fisker | jamash y u ask for ipod? |
| 18:28.43 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 18:28.52 | Fisker | we don't observe daylight savings time apparently |
| 18:29.08 | Fisker | according to the pretentious topic :( |
| 18:29.11 | Jamash | returned my g1 nano when it was recalled, been a month with no status update on the website |
| 18:29.15 | ccox | Jamash: you misspelled iPad, and they correct it for you and sent you a bill for the remainder |
| 18:29.49 | Fisker | maybe you should bomb them Jamash |
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| 18:53.48 | bluspacecow | sleeeeeeeeeeeeeep tiems |
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| 19:37.27 | Arrowmaster | so how much of an ass do i want to be right now |
| 19:38.38 | karl_w_w | just 1 cheek |
| 19:38.40 | Arrowmaster | because i posted my resume on monster.com some company has sent me emails saying i could be an insurance salesman with them and their latest doesnt have any sort of unsubscribe or dont message me again link |
| 19:39.19 | Arrowmaster | which should be a viloation of the can-spam act |
| 19:47.30 | foxlit | if it's a one-time mailing, does unsubscribe even make sense? |
| 19:47.56 | foxlit | btw, the P in CAN-SPAM is Pornography |
| 19:51.04 | Maldivia | "their latest" doesn't really say "one-time mailing" |
| 19:52.21 | foxlit | Maldivia: implications are weird. For instance, did the previous instances have unsubscribe links in them? :) |
| 19:53.01 | Arrowmaster | well previously they sent me text only emails which seemed like one time mailings, but this one is an html advertisement like email |
| 19:53.27 | cbreak | maybe... it's spam |
| 19:53.40 | Arrowmaster | and all urls go through a click tracker |
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| 20:09.26 | Fisker | jnwhiteh doesn't observe daylight savings |
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| 20:23.48 | karl_w_w | jnwhiteh has his own timezone |
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| 20:28.23 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 20:29.53 | Fisker | you should read the topic jnwhiteh |
| 20:29.59 | Fisker | it's a big insult to everyone not american |
| 20:30.10 | Fisker | including you jnwhiteh |
| 20:30.13 | jnwhiteh | k |
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| 20:33.18 | karl_w_w | I think all international timezones should be adjusted to be relevant to JNWT |
| 20:33.36 | karl_w_w | that's jnwhiteh time to all you uneducated letches |
| 20:35.25 | karl_w_w | now sleep, so i can wake up in 6 hours to go visit the dentist |
| 20:35.27 | karl_w_w | oh joy |
| 20:36.37 | karl_w_w | or maybe |
| 20:37.12 | karl_w_w | i should stay awake and enjoy my last few pain-free hours, and then be tired and sleep through post-dentist time (JNWT+6) |
| 20:37.18 | karl_w_w | opinions? |
| 20:38.08 | amro | change your name and flee the country to avoid dentist time altogether |
| 20:38.20 | karl_w_w | but then my teeth may fall out |
| 20:38.46 | amro | as long as no dentist sees it and acts all condescending about your dental hygiene |
| 20:39.00 | amro | fucking assholes |
| 20:39.02 | karl_w_w | he didnt actually |
| 20:39.11 | karl_w_w | in the initial examination |
| 20:39.26 | amro | that's just the business man in him |
| 20:39.34 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 20:40.28 | karl_w_w | i had 4 teeth out when i was younger because my mouth was too crowded, when they came out they were so surprised that they had 3 roots instead of 2 that they kept them for medical study |
| 20:41.23 | karl_w_w | i've settled on the awake plan, doubt I could sleep anyway |
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| 21:39.19 | Adys | kd3, Arrowmaster, mitch0, nevcairiel, airtonix, Dagmar: I need some opinions on this: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/razor-qt/LV8StxmvDns |
| 21:49.11 | Stanzilla | woah, a new google groups look |
| 21:49.55 | Maldivia | yeah - similar to gmail and greader |
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| 22:01.23 | Arrowmaster | Lena Headey is swearing all over in this GoT commentary |
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| 22:20.15 | airtonix | Stanzilla: yeah there's this thing called the internet |
| 22:21.05 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:21.22 | mckenziemc | hey airtonix, i'm hungry |
| 22:21.59 | airtonix | feeds mckenziemc unreasonable stuff |
| 22:26.46 | airtonix | Adys: the staggered approach i like, open X with exactly a.b.c.d.e or failing that a.b.c.d or a.b.c |
| 22:29.24 | airtonix | you know what i hate about javascript |
| 22:29.39 | airtonix | commas |
| 22:31.32 | karl_w_w | you know what I hate about airtonix? |
| 22:31.36 | karl_w_w | comas |
| 22:31.40 | karl_w_w | are more interesting |
| 22:31.44 | airtonix | your mum? |
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| 23:09.55 | Arrowmaster | omg Game of Thrones ep3 commentary is great |
| 23:14.25 | Maldivia | psh, let it just be April 1st |
| 23:17.59 | Arrowmaster | ep3 commentary is from the 3 kids |
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| 23:34.25 | Maldivia | ok, that's cool |
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