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| 00:26.30 | Sintacks | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/218246-whats-your-favorite-race/ |
| 00:26.32 | Sintacks | lawl'd |
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| 01:26.49 | kd3 | whee, the storm's here |
| 01:27.23 | foxlit | the everstorm comes, kd3. |
| 01:27.46 | foxlit | untie them, or some such. |
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| 01:40.16 | Shirik | http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/george-allen-responds-quickly-to-hank-the-cats-candidacy/2012/02/28/gIQAtgQRhR_blog.html |
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| 01:42.39 | TC-Work | https://microsoftflight.com/en-US/home/ |
| 01:43.29 | kd3 | crude humor? mild violence? in a flight sim!? |
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| 01:45.07 | TC-Work | it's going to have missions and somesuch |
| 01:51.46 | pompy1 | TC-Work: yeah looks like a sweet sim |
| 01:54.12 | TC-Work | pompy1: yea, it's another fremium game however |
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| 02:07.42 | TC-Work | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_sUeGC-8dyk#! now do that with your UAV's |
| 02:09.18 | Shirik | I just crashed photoshop o.O |
| 02:09.26 | TC-Work | not hard |
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| 02:24.04 | pompy1 | TC-Work: its gonna be free'? |
| 02:24.25 | pompy1 | ahh yaeh it is |
| 02:24.50 | pompy1 | wonder why they went that route |
| 02:26.19 | pompy1 | its only 1.4gb too |
| 02:26.29 | Arrowmaster | because you can keep raking in more cash from the enthusiasts |
| 02:27.23 | pompy1 | recommended: RAM: 6.0GB |
| 02:27.33 | pompy1 | min is 2 gb |
| 02:27.46 | pompy1 | says 10-30gb of hdd space to |
| 02:33.17 | TC-Work | yea, ms flight sim was always a beast of a game on system requirements |
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| 02:34.31 | pompy1 | "The future is bright. We hope you’ll enjoy what we’ve made so far and can’t wait to show you what we’re working on next." |
| 02:36.43 | tem | Um |
| 02:36.50 | tem | Bigwigs isn't working for anyone in my raid tonight |
| 02:37.01 | tem | none of us changed any addons |
| 02:37.05 | tem | what's going on |
| 02:44.37 | pompy1 | Arrowmaster: ohhh, http://gamerant.com/assassins-creed-3-cover-rumor-dyce-136116/ |
| 02:47.31 | pompy1 | gotta waait till march 5th though for the official announcement from Ubisoft. |
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| 02:53.33 | bluspacecow | http://www.quiterly.com/3138/guide-to-gang-signs?ref=nf |
| 02:56.42 | Dagmar | They left out "Donate to help cure multiple sclerosis." |
| 02:59.23 | pompy1 | Anyone have an extra Ubisoft steam coupon from the past event? |
| 03:01.01 | karl_w_w | http://au.gamespot.com/street-cleaning-simulator/reviews/street-cleaning-simulator-review-6326398/ lololol |
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| 03:16.04 | Nefarion | Hoy guys |
| 03:22.44 | bluspacecow | yes thats what we all priests Nefarion |
| 03:22.53 | bluspacecow | *call male priests |
| 03:23.38 | TC-Work | want to try that in reality speak bluspacecow? |
| 03:23.57 | bluspacecow | Nefarion: said Holy Guys |
| 03:24.04 | Nefarion | nope |
| 03:24.07 | TC-Work | no, hoy |
| 03:24.08 | Nefarion | i said Hoy :) |
| 03:24.10 | TC-Work | as in ahoy |
| 03:24.15 | Nefarion | or Hey |
| 03:24.17 | bluspacecow | *looks* |
| 03:24.22 | bluspacecow | ok nvm |
| 03:24.27 | TC-Work | ~lart bluspacecow |
| 03:24.27 | purl | blames bluspacecow for all the evil in the world |
| 03:27.41 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:42.43 | TC-Work | i hate people |
| 03:51.44 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 03:51.49 | kd3 | we're getting another leap second |
| 03:52.02 | kd3 | just learned that from Neil deGrasse Tyson's AMA on reddit |
| 03:52.14 | kd3 | http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/qccer/i_am_neil_degrasse_tyson_ask_me_anything/c3wgoof?context=3 |
| 03:54.26 | bluspacecow | i need spelling help |
| 03:54.32 | bluspacecow | comprehend |
| 03:54.36 | bluspacecow | means to understand ? |
| 03:54.41 | kd3 | yes |
| 03:54.49 | bluspacecow | i spell it correct ? |
| 03:54.49 | kd3 | ~wikt comprehend |
| 03:54.52 | kd3 | yes |
| 03:54.53 | alestane | Literally to take hold of each other. |
| 03:54.55 | bluspacecow | wow |
| 03:55.06 | kd3 | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/comprehend |
| 03:55.12 | bluspacecow | that's like a monkey typing something out a million times then finally spelling it rihgt :) |
| 03:55.35 | kd3 | does your irc client not hook in to your operating system's spellchecker? |
| 03:55.40 | kd3 | hugs xchat |
| 03:55.41 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 03:55.47 | bluspacecow | colloquy |
| 03:55.58 | bluspacecow | -______- |
| 03:55.59 | bluspacecow | it does |
| 03:56.03 | TC-Work | i dont think windows has a spellchecker |
| 03:56.14 | bluspacecow | *cough*OS X *cough* |
| 03:56.24 | TC-Work | whats why i said WINDOWS! |
| 03:56.31 | bluspacecow | DOORS |
| 03:57.55 | A-KO | hm |
| 03:58.01 | A-KO | it seems Windows 8 has massive TCP tuning settings |
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| 04:14.19 | bluspacecow | @A-KO per app TCP settings is crazy ! |
| 04:14.33 | bluspacecow | you can have a port open for one program but close for another for security reasons |
| 04:14.51 | bluspacecow | you'ld still get trust escalation comprimises tho |
| 04:15.10 | A-KO | bluspacecow: no, it's more like, per-app TCP configuration. You can change congestion windows, providers, and timeout settings per port |
| 04:15.13 | A-KO | or per group of ports |
| 04:15.32 | A-KO | so WoW might want more aggressive timeout settings than your web browsing, etc. |
| 04:15.38 | A-KO | and you can now give it that |
| 04:15.43 | A-KO | you can do per-app TCP tuning |
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| 04:44.45 | TC-Work | kd3: you know a good place i can get some understanding of installing php properly? |
| 04:45.24 | kd3 | `yum install php` works well enough for me. what are you having problems with? |
| 04:46.05 | TC-Work | i cant do it via yum since i am using an old distro so i complied it myself |
| 04:46.40 | kd3 | apache or nginx? |
| 04:46.44 | TC-Work | and doing "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" just displays that txt |
| 04:46.46 | TC-Work | apache |
| 04:47.26 | TC-Work | i more or less followed http://teklimbu.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/configuring-apache-2x-with-php-5x-and-mysql-5x/ with a few changes |
| 04:47.27 | kd3 | there should be a php.conf shipped in the tarball you need to drop in /etc/httpd/conf.d/ |
| 04:47.59 | kd3 | here's mine, for instance: http://pastebin.com/St5jEHbZ |
| 04:50.08 | TC-Work | hmm..i do not have that file |
| 04:50.50 | kd3 | you can use mine... it doesn't change very much between versions of php. right now apache doesn't know how to interpret php so it's just passing back the plain text |
| 04:51.44 | kd3 | dropping that file in and reloading the apache config (apachectl -k graceful) |
| 04:52.06 | kd3 | should be enough. your syslog/apache logs will tell you if things go wrong after that |
| 04:53.10 | TC-Work | like "httpd: Syntax error on line 210 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 5 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf: Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 04:53.23 | TC-Work | since my apache is not installed there |
| 04:53.50 | Arrowmaster | .so's dont belong in /etc anyway |
| 04:54.04 | kd3 | yah, it's not looking in the right directory. pastebin your httpd.conf? |
| 04:56.30 | TC-Work | http://pastebin.com/kRsJ1V00 |
| 04:56.52 | TC-Work | hmm....server root is wrong |
| 04:57.05 | TC-Work | oh, nvm |
| 04:57.07 | kd3 | no, that's fine |
| 04:57.13 | kd3 | sec |
| 05:00.41 | durcyn | Arrowmaster: that shit's all symlinked in some bad distributions though |
| 05:01.04 | kd3 | like, say, fedora. since my httpd.conf does the same thing |
| 05:01.34 | kd3 | http://pastebin.com/fx0UvtBj |
| 05:01.54 | kd3 | you will probably want to make those symlinks |
| 05:02.44 | kd3 | when you compiled php, where did you install it to? |
| 05:02.52 | TC-Work | theyare already there |
| 05:03.11 | TC-Work | i think i compiled it to a php folder in httpd |
| 05:03.13 | kd3 | there should be a libphp5.so somewhere, copy it to wherever that symlink points |
| 05:03.24 | TC-Work | htpd being the name of my apache folder |
| 05:04.22 | TC-Work | httpd* |
| 05:06.05 | kd3 | oh wow. no windows 95-like "click here to begin" pointers in the win8 beta |
| 05:06.22 | kd3 | lets out a surprised whistle at the vm |
| 05:06.40 | Arrowmaster | kd3: im finally getting around to finishing penguindrum, god damn this is fucked up |
| 05:07.11 | kd3 | hahaha. rock over japan came up in the playlist about 30 seconds ago |
| 05:07.30 | kd3 | it's ikuhara... this shit is what he does |
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| 05:08.19 | TC-Work | i think this issue goes deeper |
| 05:08.22 | kd3 | I'm reminded of the gnome3 paradigm shift. this is not going to go over well. at. all. |
| 05:08.29 | TC-Work | "httpd: Syntax error on line 210 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 5 of /etc/httpd/conf.d/php.conf: Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/libphp5.so: undefined symbol: ap_unixd_config" |
| 05:08.46 | kd3 | o_O |
| 05:08.54 | TC-Work | i wonder what happens if i point the symlink to where it is currently |
| 05:10.35 | kd3 | the first bug report I saw indicates you may want to run a `make clean` then redo the ./configure&&make&&make install routine again |
| 05:10.40 | kd3 | for php |
| 05:11.01 | TC-Work | awesome |
| 05:12.06 | kd3 | also, this is how php suggests you install php for apache: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php? |
| 05:12.23 | TC-Work | "/configure –with-apxs2=/usr/local/httpd/bin/apxs \ –with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql \ –prefix=/usr/local/httpd/php \ –with-config-file-path=/usr/local/httpd/php \ –with-zlib \ –with-gettext \ –with-gdbm " |
| 05:12.28 | TC-Work | thats how i did it the firt time |
| 05:13.14 | TC-Work | granted i think i managed to uninstall gettext however... |
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| 05:18.23 | Fox536 | Hey anyone know where I can find a guide to creating a Action Button that works like Blizzard's Default ones? |
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| 05:36.01 | Cairenn | Four whole minutes! |
| 05:36.33 | kd3 | remarkably patient, considering some of the drive-by-questioners... |
| 05:36.40 | Cairenn | Indeed |
| 05:50.00 | bluspacecow | this talking dragon looks like it's chewing peanut butter |
| 05:50.03 | bluspacecow | very mr ed |
| 05:54.48 | TC-Work | thanks for the help kd3, but it looks like i will have to continue diagnosing tomorrow. |
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| 06:16.30 | Adys_ | http://i.imgur.com/hDkKb.jpg |
| 06:16.31 | Adys_ | ... shit |
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| 07:03.47 | Fisker | Parnic i still love you :( |
| 07:04.13 | Adys | http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/299/screenshotb835c675.png |
| 07:04.16 | Adys | Dear Stargate |
| 07:04.39 | Adys | If you put an alien language on a tv screen in an alien news report |
| 07:05.01 | Adys | why is the host presenting it in english |
| 07:05.09 | Adys | Please answer a.s.a.p. |
| 07:05.11 | Adys | All the best |
| 07:05.17 | Fisker | because that world only understands written alien |
| 07:05.19 | Fisker | not spoken alien |
| 07:05.50 | TC-Work | the tv translates? |
| 07:06.11 | TC-Work | thats the one with spaceship race? |
| 07:06.16 | Adys | yea |
| 07:06.30 | Adys | what annoys me is they go from one extreme to the other |
| 07:07.01 | Adys | on one side you have writers who do their best to integrate alien languages with thought-out structures and words |
| 07:07.53 | Adys | and on the other you have ass-backwards out-of-contact-with-other-planets-for-thousands-of-years tiny villages who speak perfect english with an australian accent |
| 07:08.12 | Adys | both are fine, but not in the same fucking series |
| 07:09.10 | Adys | (let alone in the same fucking news report) |
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| 07:12.08 | Arrowmaster | well its one of those things you have to gloss over or the series just doesnt work |
| 07:12.31 | Arrowmaster | in the movie they didnt speak english but on every other planet since they do |
| 07:12.46 | Adys | i dont care about the movie tbh |
| 07:12.55 | Adys | i can accept a spin off not adhering 100% |
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| 07:13.13 | Adys | but its annoying when it goes from one ep to the other, back and forth dozens of times |
| 07:14.54 | Fisker | i don't want to hurt you bluspacecow |
| 07:15.01 | bluspacecow | lol |
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| 07:22.18 | Fisker | i don't know why Parnic hates us bluspacecow |
| 07:22.19 | Fisker | do you? |
| 07:22.27 | bluspacecow | y? |
| 07:23.40 | Fisker | i don't know bluspacecow |
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| 07:45.15 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 07:45.47 | Arrowmaster | im watching CSI:LV and they just made one of the biggest blood type errors possible |
| 07:46.10 | Arrowmaster | saying they are type O and a parent is AB |
| 07:47.40 | Dagmar | Your dad believed it. ;) |
| 07:47.45 | zenzio | lol |
| 07:48.16 | Arrowmaster | both my parents are A and im O, meaning they are both AO |
| 07:48.16 | zenzio | I take it AB eliminates the possibility of a child having 0 then? Can't say I've looked much into blood |
| 07:48.54 | TMc51 | Either that, or you're adopted and never figured it out yet. |
| 07:49.29 | Arrowmaster | zenzio: yeah, make a 2x2 grid and label the top with one parents type and the side with the others |
| 07:50.05 | Arrowmaster | 50% chance i could have been AO, 25% chance i could have been AA, 25% chance i could have been OO which i am |
| 07:50.31 | Arrowmaster | if a parent is AB then the child can not be OO |
| 07:50.46 | zenzio | I see |
| 07:52.19 | Arrowmaster | i swear ive seen and bitched about this exact same situation in another show |
| 07:53.55 | zenzio | they're too busy coming up with new GUIs. God forbid they have one single GUI for their systems, even if it is a completely unusable one |
| 07:54.39 | zenzio | I'm always amused how they have holographic "monitors", except when they want to show how important something is - then they have regular monitors they can turn towards another investigator |
| 07:56.07 | Arrowmaster | i should probably clarify that i think there are rare conditions where a parent can be AB and a child is O but thats generally not how it works |
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| 08:02.39 | Elkano | do they still use guis made in visual basic to trace ips? |
| 08:04.49 | Elkano | (for reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU ) |
| 08:08.58 | Arrowmaster | oh wow they actually brought up that it wasnt possible for the parent to be AB and child O |
| 08:10.16 | Elkano | so not as bad as you feared? :) |
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| 08:10.23 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 08:10.39 | Arrowmaster | i just noticed it immediately |
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| 08:40.30 | Fisker | i noticed in a movie yesterday |
| 08:40.36 | Fisker | where they were doing some cross referencing |
| 08:40.38 | Fisker | and they used grep |
| 08:40.56 | Fisker | technobabble win |
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| 09:09.05 | Ackis | hi BlackNet |
| 09:09.06 | Ackis | err |
| 09:09.08 | Ackis | bluspacecow: |
| 09:09.19 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 09:09.55 | bluspacecow | ackis i had to buy a bunch of bikes in Adventure World |
| 09:10.00 | bluspacecow | i was gold capped :( |
| 09:10.26 | Ackis | there's a gold cap? lulz |
| 09:10.36 | bluspacecow | 1000000 |
| 09:11.26 | Ackis | I'm having issues getting everything built plus doing the missions |
| 09:11.27 | Ackis | it's annoying |
| 09:12.00 | bluspacecow | how many aw friends do you have ? |
| 09:12.43 | Ackis | 5ish |
| 09:12.47 | Ackis | maybe 6 |
| 09:12.54 | Ackis | 3 of them are me, 2 are you, 1 is my wife |
| 09:12.56 | bluspacecow | mine's 41 |
| 09:12.58 | Ackis | nerd |
| 09:13.05 | bluspacecow | i found this thread on their support forums |
| 09:13.24 | bluspacecow | and basically went through the entire thing friending them all |
| 09:13.38 | bluspacecow | and making sure I send them a PM saying why i was friending them |
| 09:13.51 | bluspacecow | and letting them know it was up to them to friend me or not , no pressure |
| 09:14.23 | Ackis | lies you probably said friend me or else I'll get steve irwin my countries greatest hero to kill you |
| 09:15.01 | bluspacecow | erm steve irwins dead dood |
| 09:15.19 | Ackis | so you ARE an aussie! |
| 09:15.29 | Humbedooh | maybe he named one of his crabbies after him..! |
| 09:15.30 | bluspacecow | nope.jpg |
| 09:15.35 | bluspacecow | born in paeroa :P |
| 09:15.47 | Ackis | no idea where that is, but I'm going to assume austrailia |
| 09:15.52 | bluspacecow | google maps it |
| 09:17.15 | Ackis | ~google paeroa |
| 09:17.50 | bluspacecow | ~whaleslap Ackis |
| 09:17.50 | purl | ACTION beats Ackis upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 09:17.50 | Ackis | zomg yer a northerner! :D |
| 09:18.03 | bluspacecow | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=paeroa&hl=en&ll=-37.505368,175.654907&spn=4.191729,4.075928&sll=-37.787001,175.279253&sspn=0.52203,0.509491&hnear=Paeroa,+Waikato,+New+Zealand&t=m&z=8 |
| 09:22.12 | Ackis | neighbours have been fighting for about 2 hours so far lol |
| 09:22.18 | Ackis | bluspacecow: are you on US or EU for WoW? |
| 09:22.21 | Ackis | or do you even play wow? |
| 09:22.25 | bluspacecow | US |
| 09:22.27 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 09:22.30 | bluspacecow | occansionally |
| 09:22.37 | bluspacecow | (im just really really bad at it) |
| 09:23.02 | bluspacecow | i'm the guy you have take through a raid with horse blinders on as im like OOOOO SHINEEEEYYY *runs towards it* |
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| 09:39.43 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 09:39.47 | Fisker | what did you do to Parnic ? |
| 09:40.56 | Ackis | nothin |
| 09:43.22 | Fisker | yes you did |
| 09:43.24 | Fisker | he's gone |
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| 10:09.39 | Fisker | why do you make him hate me Ackis ? |
| 10:13.58 | Elkano | ~emulate Torhal |
| 10:13.58 | purl | Ackis, it's ALL your fault! |
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| 10:57.01 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 10:57.04 | Fisker | will you assist me? |
| 10:57.12 | Fisker | btw bluspacecow |
| 10:57.15 | Fisker | you're wrong again |
| 10:57.24 | Fisker | it's 999999g 99s and 99c |
| 10:57.25 | Fisker | tsk |
| 10:57.26 | bluspacecow | oh rly ? |
| 10:57.54 | Elkano | that's over 9000! |
| 10:58.20 | Fisker | punches Elkano |
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| 10:58.58 | Elkano | was just talking about your mother's weight... |
| 11:00.12 | Fisker | nope Elkano |
| 11:05.37 | Adys | Arrowmaster: s7e14 sg1 |
| 11:05.42 | Adys | what the douchery |
| 11:05.54 | Adys | these guys have to relocate ~1500 people |
| 11:06.15 | Adys | and they want to split the population into three different *planets* |
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| 11:08.33 | Fisker | Whats wrong? |
| 11:09.06 | Fisker | Maybe you can see the exosphere from the stargate |
| 11:09.27 | Fisker | or rather throw a rock to it |
| 11:09.28 | Fisker | :D |
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| 11:14.10 | Fisker | Anyway Adys it's probably a sustainability thing |
| 11:14.39 | Adys | Fisker: its three countries at war |
| 11:14.45 | Adys | fuck |
| 11:14.51 | Fisker | i don't recall that :o |
| 11:15.05 | Fisker | is it the rand protectorate and that shit? |
| 11:15.05 | Adys | Fisker: quinn's homeworld. three "continent-countries" at war |
| 11:15.09 | Fisker | oh |
| 11:15.10 | Fisker | ah |
| 11:15.22 | Adys | sg1's shit is so disproportionate |
| 11:15.47 | Fisker | Yeah only 1500 people across 3 contients? |
| 11:15.52 | Fisker | continents* |
| 11:15.56 | Adys | its around 10 thousands |
| 11:15.59 | Fisker | More jaffa on a mothership :3 |
| 11:16.03 | Adys | but they're only gonna save ~2k |
| 11:16.14 | Zasurus | misses Stargate... |
| 11:16.16 | Adys | Fisker: its not just that |
| 11:16.25 | Adys | i mentioned it the other day but they treat planets like they're villages |
| 11:16.29 | Adys | and galaxies like they're countries |
| 11:17.16 | Adys | its true that the faster you travel, the more relative distances become |
| 11:17.31 | Adys | but this is ridiculous |
| 11:20.19 | Adys | im really glad i fired stargate back up |
| 11:20.28 | Adys | its a great source of inspiration for space combat design |
| 11:20.56 | Adys | ive been working on paper for *fun* and proper multiplayer single-ship management |
| 11:21.02 | Adys | eg. controlling a mothership with a team |
| 11:25.04 | Zasurus | Adys: You working on a game? |
| 11:25.19 | Adys | with amro in my spare time |
| 11:25.32 | Adys | which is never lately |
| 11:25.59 | Zasurus | <-- LOL Well if you get to a beta stage... |
| 11:26.05 | Zasurus | :) |
| 11:26.58 | Fisker | sell the alpha for $10 |
| 11:31.05 | bluspacecow | i lolzed fisker |
| 11:31.07 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4079626833?page=4#77 |
| 11:31.20 | Fisker | is everything a big joke to you bluspacecow ? |
| 11:31.27 | bluspacecow | misspelling of "customers" |
| 11:31.31 | bluspacecow | costumers? |
| 11:37.40 | Fisker | :O bluspacecow |
| 11:37.58 | bluspacecow | so they only sub losses were cos players |
| 11:38.15 | Fisker | also the D3 developement argument |
| 11:38.17 | Fisker | i had that as well |
| 11:38.19 | bluspacecow | b-b-b-b-b-but what about all the pretty girls dressed up as alexandra the life binder ! |
| 11:38.42 | bluspacecow | what D3 dev argument ? |
| 11:38.44 | Fisker | where i pointed out that D3 was nearly as long in developement in DNF |
| 11:38.51 | Kaylin | idk, according to my school forums, I'm not a girl, so idk about them. |
| 11:38.56 | Fisker | and the guy went "But they scrapped it in 2005" |
| 11:39.12 | Fisker | then i told him that DNF developement restarted a lot of times too |
| 11:39.21 | Fisker | but that apparently didn't count |
| 11:40.21 | Nefarion | DNF? |
| 11:40.27 | Kaylin | duke nukem forever |
| 11:40.30 | Kaylin | I assume |
| 11:40.37 | Nefarion | kay thanks |
| 11:40.45 | Kaylin | nef welcome |
| 11:41.04 | Kaylin | (yes I just did that) |
| 11:41.19 | Kalroth | Fisker: dont worry D3 will be better in a couple of years, when they add the fun to it |
| 11:41.41 | Kaylin | the biggest worry I have is |
| 11:41.55 | Kaylin | the idea that the fun part of d3 was killing monsters for items over and over and over |
| 11:42.21 | Kaylin | d2* |
| 11:42.48 | Kalroth | well you dont have to worry about that now |
| 11:43.00 | Kaylin | oh? |
| 11:43.02 | Kalroth | you can just buy the items on the auction house, no need to farm for them |
| 11:43.17 | Kaylin | oh, right *eyeroll* |
| 11:48.54 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/1921257 |
| 11:48.57 | Adys | god git is awesome |
| 11:50.41 | zenzio | not sure I really understand that |
| 11:52.09 | Adys | zenzio: git can rewrite its own history |
| 11:52.20 | Adys | zenzio: in this case, deleting a file from the entire history in seconds |
| 11:52.31 | zenzio | oh, so it'll be as if it was never there? |
| 11:52.37 | Adys | yup |
| 11:52.40 | zenzio | that is pretty cool |
| 11:52.48 | Adys | which is awesome in case you accidentally commit mypasswords.txt |
| 11:52.54 | zenzio | I need to give in and learn git one day |
| 11:53.06 | Adys | zenzio: which vcs do you know? |
| 11:53.15 | zenzio | only really svn |
| 11:53.29 | Adys | zenzio: then you to need to give in. Its very simple though. |
| 11:53.34 | Nefarion | try to push smthing and then revert it locally and then push smth different with "force push" -> history gone too |
| 11:53.55 | Adys | zenzio: git clone git://github.com/me/myrepo.git -- you clone a repo |
| 11:54.14 | Adys | zenzio: git commit -a -- you commit |
| 11:54.35 | Adys | zenzio: git add file1 file2 -- you add files to staging |
| 11:54.36 | zenzio | I must admit that while I do find the whole push/pull terminology confusing, one of the bigger reasons I haven't gone git yet is the commit "revision". I like having plain historic numbers, but I'm sure there are easy enough ways to deal with revisions in git anyway |
| 11:54.36 | karl_w_w | i like git the most because it's a mildly derogatory term |
| 11:54.46 | Adys | zenzio: git commit -- you commit whatever is in staging |
| 11:55.01 | jnwhiteh | zenzio: that's the nature of any distributed SCM |
| 11:55.13 | jnwhiteh | you can't really have revision numbers in a decentralized syste |
| 11:55.21 | zenzio | jnwhiteh: true. Replace "git" with "DVCS" |
| 11:55.26 | zenzio | in my sentence |
| 11:55.33 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 11:55.41 | jnwhiteh | but that's the source of its power as well |
| 11:55.49 | Adys | tbh the whole historic number thing is "we like having -rev<num> to show off how many commits we made" |
| 11:56.03 | Adys | but there are ways to see how many commits there are in a repo, all branches counted |
| 11:56.45 | Adys | zenzio: anyway; git clone, git push, git pull, git commit // the only commands you need to know by heart |
| 11:56.45 | zenzio | Adys: for me it's not about how many, just that my brain has trouble dealing with asynchronous (for lack of a better term, I'm sure it's the wrong word) work |
| 11:57.01 | zenzio | but I have no real issue with git anymore, just haven't set aside time to learn it |
| 11:57.15 | zenzio | so thanks Adys, I'll take some time later to look through your explanation =) |
| 11:57.17 | Adys | zenzio: i recommend using git for your personal projects. you will only have one branch, itll be very much like svn |
| 11:57.52 | Adys | it gets complicated when you actually work in a group and have multiple branches of your own as well, but you can use git without even knowing about branches |
| 11:58.14 | zenzio | oh, that's the other thing I'm unsure how I feel about... I'm fond of the idea of a central server, but I suppose you can simulate that in git |
| 11:58.23 | zenzio | branching? I like to pretend it doesn't exist in svn |
| 11:59.05 | Adys | zenzio: branching in git is very easy; as for central servers you dont have to simulate it, its how you use it |
| 11:59.30 | Adys | zenzio: if you create a repo on github, you can clone that to your computer and it'll be just as good as a centralised server |
| 11:59.39 | zenzio | then I've misunderstood things. I thought it was supposed to be "everyone is the repository" |
| 11:59.46 | Adys | that is correct |
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| 12:00.00 | Adys | but it doesn't have to get in your way |
| 12:00.04 | zenzio | I see |
| 12:00.26 | zenzio | clearly I need to look into this, but I think you're right that it'd be a good idea to just try it on some personal projects |
| 12:00.35 | Adys | zenzio: the main difference is, if at some point you delete your github repository, your local repo can become the central one if you give its url to someone else |
| 12:00.50 | Adys | basically, its not something to lean; its an added bonus |
| 12:00.54 | Adys | learn* |
| 12:01.13 | zenzio | I meant git in total, not just the repository part :) |
| 12:01.28 | Adys | hm? |
| 12:01.53 | zenzio | when I said I had to learn it, I meant all of git, not just the repository part that I'd mention beforehand |
| 12:02.06 | Adys | yeah i know |
| 12:02.13 | zenzio | the whole local commit thing is probably one of the things I'll benefit a lot from. I'm always reluctant to commit often to svn, since I tend to work on different parts simultaneously |
| 12:02.16 | zenzio | and break stuff |
| 12:02.22 | Adys | i was just specifying that bit isn't "something else to learn" |
| 12:02.27 | zenzio | oh, sorry |
| 12:03.12 | Adys | git sounds complex to learn because everyone tells you "oh it has so many features", and you hear terms like "staging", "branching", etc |
| 12:03.33 | Adys | but in the end you can use git like you use svn by just swapping a few words for another |
| 12:07.23 | zenzio | on another note, ever had to deal with old code (especially someone else's old PHP4.5 code) that just made you want to curl up in a corner and cry? |
| 12:07.29 | zenzio | I really just want this project to die |
| 12:07.32 | zenzio | violently |
| 12:08.02 | Adys | php makes me shiver |
| 12:08.09 | Adys | php4.5 makes me burst in flames |
| 12:09.43 | zenzio | yeah; I'd rather do pure 4 than 4.5 (ie. "we started out in 4 but then transitioned (badly) into 5 without fixing old code") |
| 12:10.19 | Adys | what do you code in php for? work? |
| 12:10.23 | zenzio | yup |
| 12:10.28 | Adys | why :( |
| 12:11.01 | zenzio | because apart from .NET, that's the only language anyone uses for web stuff here. And when I started working, .NET was not as common, and I'd only used PHP before (for web stuff) |
| 12:11.31 | Adys | you should look into python+django |
| 12:11.38 | Adys | or, if you're not into performance, ruby on rails |
| 12:11.44 | zenzio | django is a framework, right? |
| 12:11.47 | Adys | yes |
| 12:12.28 | Adys | django 1.4 (soon to be released) is really good. i used to despise django back in 1.0/1.1 but they implemented some seriously needed features |
| 12:13.32 | zenzio | is it MVCish, or do things work differently in the python web world? |
| 12:14.33 | Adys | zenzio: its very mvcish |
| 12:15.00 | Fisker | you guys should just use html |
| 12:15.07 | zenzio | no way Fisker |
| 12:15.11 | zenzio | HTML is so web 1.0 |
| 12:15.13 | Fisker | why not? :( |
| 12:15.41 | Fisker | i'm helping these jerks sorting some job applicants |
| 12:15.47 | Fisker | since i'm ever so good at basic excel |
| 12:15.57 | Fisker | He sent a fucking webpage as his resumé |
| 12:16.02 | Fisker | with like 50 pictures in it |
| 12:16.03 | Fisker | :( |
| 12:16.25 | Fisker | so i wget'd every image and printed them as pdf |
| 12:16.28 | Fisker | fuck yeah |
| 12:16.54 | Fisker | (Apparently that makes me into some kind of super god) |
| 12:17.50 | Adys | but it does |
| 12:22.19 | zenzio | god, this project is just one big bunch of hacks because the customers keep requesting features it was never made for (and which conflict with existing functionality) |
| 12:23.34 | Fisker | what the actual fuck |
| 12:23.43 | Fisker | why is a guy from portugal applying for a job here |
| 12:23.48 | Fisker | nigerian scammers omg |
| 12:24.05 | zenzio | blame the EU's laws |
| 12:24.29 | zenzio | everyone can apply for jobs everywhere else in the union, and they're to be treated equally as people from your own country |
| 12:24.35 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 12:24.36 | Fisker | i forgot |
| 12:24.41 | Fisker | portugal isn't in south america |
| 12:24.49 | Kalroth | heuhuehuehue |
| 12:25.19 | Fisker | but we're totally racists zenzio |
| 12:25.35 | Fisker | can't use someone who can't speak danish :( |
| 12:25.47 | Nefarion | does someone know how i can print the content of the key "userdata" of a frame? |
| 12:26.37 | amro | what do you mean by content? the most you can get out of udata is an address |
| 12:27.04 | Nefarion | okay -.- i got the address,i was just wondering if there is maybe more to read :) |
| 12:27.04 | Fisker | hahaha |
| 12:27.16 | Fisker | his education papers are signed [Illegible Signature] |
| 12:27.18 | Fisker | Macro fail |
| 12:30.54 | Sintacks | http://freakymartin.com/nitro/fishki01/47a0b4468f4a624_comp.jpg |
| 12:30.57 | Sintacks | i wonder if that would work |
| 12:32.02 | Kalroth | why not |
| 12:35.18 | starlon | Updated: http://starlon.lyrical.net/froyvisuals.php |
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| 12:38.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=25210 |
| 12:39.01 | karl_w_w | why does a jar opener need an led light? |
| 12:39.27 | Kaylin | so you can open jars at 3am without waking people up |
| 12:40.55 | karl_w_w | ah I see |
| 12:41.01 | karl_w_w | a common night time hobby |
| 12:42.30 | zenzio | karl_w_w: what kind of a nerd are you? Everything is better with LEDs |
| 12:43.09 | karl_w_w | im sorry |
| 12:43.14 | karl_w_w | please dont beat me |
| 12:43.59 | bluspacecow | or if you need to open jars while caving but don't want to waste resources making a torch |
| 12:44.44 | karl_w_w | it is true that a jar opener with led light could come in handy when the zombie apocalypse comes |
| 12:46.00 | Nefarion | ye but if the zombie apocalypse comes, where are you going to get your 12 month warranty from? |
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| 13:33.34 | starlon | :\ |
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| 13:44.43 | zenzio | welcome back peppy |
| 13:47.09 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning. |
| 13:50.27 | bluspacecow | peppy pillow is here! |
| 13:51.24 | Lopeppeppy | I suppose... *laugh* |
| 13:51.39 | Lopeppeppy | Mind I don't toss you into a snowbank though, it's very fluffy around here right now. |
| 13:52.09 | bluspacecow | dont care |
| 13:52.18 | Lopeppeppy | Crazy talk. |
| 13:52.18 | bluspacecow | with peppy pillow i warm in sno |
| 13:52.46 | bluspacecow | u throw me in sno i 'port you there to act as my pillow :P |
| 13:54.35 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a northern chick, snow doesn't scare me. You should be in bed by now though! |
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| 13:55.12 | bluspacecow | but this lay off threads is far too intereting |
| 13:55.13 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 13:55.22 | bluspacecow | like watching a train wreck of lolz |
| 13:55.25 | bluspacecow | and its not capped |
| 14:17.49 | Lopeppeppy | I know. You can't sleep, someone on the internet is *wrong*. But you must. |
| 14:22.03 | Dagmar | There's always time for more killing in the morning. |
| 14:24.56 | Lopeppeppy | Good night, Westley. I'll likely kill you in the morning. |
| 14:26.12 | bluspacecow | its not about them being wrong and me having to correct them |
| 14:26.32 | bluspacecow | it's just amusing see the misinformation, QQ and the occansional good post from someone |
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| 14:26.46 | bluspacecow | as well as finding out what stance some of the forum regs are taking |
| 14:28.36 | Lopeppeppy | Forums always gave me a stomach ache, and that was just the UI/Macro one. |
| 14:29.31 | alestane | All these people who show up to complain and, when you ask them to be a decent soul in a group of people that wants to make something useful happen, tartly respond "no u" |
| 14:31.21 | bluspacecow | no u |
| 14:31.25 | bluspacecow | :P |
| 14:31.30 | foxlit | what are we complain about, and can I complain too? |
| 14:31.34 | foxlit | ^ing |
| 14:31.41 | bluspacecow | foxlit |
| 14:31.44 | bluspacecow | we are complaining |
| 14:31.53 | bluspacecow | about the lack of good photos of Peppy's sexiness |
| 14:31.54 | bluspacecow | comment ? |
| 14:32.15 | foxlit | presumably Peppy's neither blue nor a cow, so I can't see your interest in it. |
| 14:32.25 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:32.46 | zenzio | maybe you're just not privy to those photos? |
| 14:32.58 | bluspacecow | that |
| 14:33.01 | bluspacecow | is a valid point |
| 14:33.08 | bluspacecow | so all i have is my fantasies |
| 14:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | Fantasies are more powerful anyway. |
| 14:33.41 | Lopeppeppy | I might be cute, but I'm not that cute. |
| 14:33.56 | zenzio | so certain, are you? |
| 14:34.12 | bluspacecow | i find many beatiful women undervalue themselves |
| 14:34.39 | Lopeppeppy | Beauty is often hard to see in photos, too. I'm an awesome friend - where do you see that in a photo? |
| 14:35.06 | bluspacecow | beauty is not just in looks imho |
| 14:35.28 | bluspacecow | personality , intelligence , wit many qualities go into making how beatiful a person is |
| 14:35.33 | Maldivia | picture of your aura then ?:) |
| 14:35.42 | bluspacecow | black all round |
| 14:35.54 | bluspacecow | that stuff dont work with me |
| 14:36.09 | bluspacecow | seriously did a a tarot reading and it come up with 5 death cards |
| 14:37.03 | Nefarion | +rep, Royal Flush for you |
| 14:38.11 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 14:38.13 | Fisker | not so hey Parnic |
| 14:42.59 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: ....and now you know why fortune tellers don't use a seven-deck boot. |
| 14:43.28 | bluspacecow | fresh unopened deck. |
| 14:43.47 | Dagmar | Make me your beneficiary, pl0x. |
| 14:45.14 | foxlit | 1. Get a bunch of loans, spend money on extravagant vegas trip. |
| 14:45.22 | foxlit | 2. Make Dagmar "beneficiary" |
| 14:45.23 | foxlit | 3. ??? |
| 14:45.25 | foxlit | 4. Profit! |
| 14:45.36 | Nefarion | anyway, guys: how do i >set< the tables, functions and stuff that i get from :GetChildren() ?? |
| 14:46.33 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, just shoveled about 8 inches of snow off my car. Fun times there. |
| 14:46.40 | foxlit | http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsxtglsUrC1qmhv2lo1_500.jpg |
| 14:46.54 | Dagmar | The death card doesn't necessarily mean you're going to die, but if you pull seven in a cross from a new deck, someone's probably trying to tell you to get your affairs in order. |
| 14:47.13 | Lopeppeppy | Death is only the beginning, after all. |
| 14:47.33 | zenzio | space is not the only void |
| 14:47.38 | Dagmar | ...on the brights side, you can probably skip worrying about the cell phone bill. |
| 14:49.25 | foxlit | Nefarion: it's not that we're ignoring you; your question just makes very little sense. |
| 14:49.48 | Nefarion | hmm -.-, tell me why please XD |
| 14:50.33 | zenzio | what is it you want to do? |
| 14:50.56 | Lopeppeppy | alestane: 9:40, first plow through my road. How's that for rural life? |
| 14:51.11 | alestane | Are you working from home today? |
| 14:51.37 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. I stayed up most of the night watching the snow fall. Driving in it afterward would be stupid-unsafe. |
| 14:52.09 | Nefarion | For example, if i run a little macro like "/run for k,v in pairs(MiniMapFrame:GetChildren()) do print(k,v) end" then i get a huge crapload of frames, i want to know how i can "set" a frame to be a children of a different one, and how to let the "parent" frame know it |
| 14:53.10 | alestane | Well, if you use the :SetParent() method of a frame, it will be added to the new parent's children. |
| 14:53.24 | alestane | !api SetParent |
| 14:53.24 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'SetParent': Region:SetParent, ControlPoint:SetParent, Animation:SetParent |
| 14:53.38 | Nefarion | +rep for you :) |
| 14:53.41 | alestane | !api Region:SetParent |
| 14:53.42 | lua_bot | Region:SetParent: Makes another frame the parent of this region (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetParent) |
| 14:55.49 | Nefarion | name - Global name of a frame (string) is the same i use in _G[...] right? |
| 14:56.26 | zenzio | yes |
| 14:56.45 | Nefarion | great |
| 14:57.20 | zenzio | but often you might have the frame itself, so you could just use that instead of its name |
| 14:57.24 | zenzio | both work |
| 14:57.47 | Nefarion | yep the other definition was clear to me, i just wasn'T sure about that one :) |
| 15:00.30 | bluspacecow | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 15:00.34 | zenzio | yes? |
| 15:00.35 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on peppy* |
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| 15:01.02 | Fisker | calls the police |
| 15:01.24 | bluspacecow | the sleep police! |
| 15:01.38 | bluspacecow | i sleeps with yous fiskery fisker ? |
| 15:01.50 | Fisker | calls the ambulance |
| 15:02.08 | bluspacecow | the whaaaaaaaaaaaambulance ? |
| 15:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | Night night. |
| 15:04.48 | bluspacecow | i go beds nows |
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| 15:35.46 | Nefarion | haste here? |
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| 15:40.39 | haste | Nefarion: yes, and to answer your earlier question, oUF doesn't create any children, the layout is in charge of that |
| 15:41.07 | Nefarion | well that explains everything :) tank you |
| 15:42.03 | Fisker | i create children if you catch my drift haste |
| 15:42.22 | Nefarion | guess what, so they Set you parent? XD |
| 15:42.38 | Fisker | i try to avoid tha t |
| 15:42.40 | Fisker | that* |
| 15:42.42 | Nefarion | ^^ |
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| 16:03.11 | Shirik | http://pastebin.com/0xXV8k7k |
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| 16:23.19 | Nefarion | !api Run() |
| 16:23.20 | lua_bot | Found 18 possible matches for 'Run()'. Please be more specific or check Google search results: http://is.gd/O6LG29 |
| 16:23.30 | Nefarion | !api frame:Run() |
| 16:23.30 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'frame:Run()'. |
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| 16:25.16 | kd3 | oh wow. they're blaming leap year for the azure failure? hahaha |
| 16:25.29 | Shirik | ? |
| 16:25.42 | kd3 | http://www.techweekeurope.co.uk/news/windows-azure-leap-year-glitch-takes-down-g-cloud-63920 |
| 16:25.44 | karl_w_w | what are u trying to run Nefarion? u cant run a frame it isnt code :P |
| 16:26.04 | Nefarion | i am trying to run a "stringed" function ^^ |
| 16:26.25 | Shirik | how do you not detect these things |
| 16:27.18 | Shirik | Nefarion: What does that mean |
| 16:27.23 | karl_w_w | Nefarion u mean: |
| 16:27.30 | karl_w_w | !api runscript |
| 16:27.30 | lua_bot | RunScript: Runs a string as a Lua script (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RunScript) |
| 16:28.19 | Shirik | assert(loadstring(s))() |
| 16:28.22 | Shirik | > Runscript |
| 16:28.25 | Nefarion | hmm my "function" is enclosed in [[ and ]] |
| 16:28.36 | Shirik | that is a string. However, I also ask why you are doing that |
| 16:28.53 | karl_w_w | is it commented out? :D |
| 16:29.00 | Nefarion | comment = --[[ |
| 16:29.06 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 16:29.26 | karl_w_w | thats the only reason i can think of to have a function as a string |
| 16:29.50 | Shirik | well don't get me wrong there are reasons to do it, but you have to have a REALLY good one |
| 16:30.42 | Nefarion | isn't this how you have to define the "initalConfigFunction" for frames? |
| 16:31.08 | Nefarion | so if you pop the frame, it does something? |
| 16:32.17 | Shirik | what |
| 16:32.26 | Shirik | are we talking about something that is not the WoW API here? |
| 16:32.45 | Nefarion | lemme check XD |
| 16:32.48 | Nefarion | maybe i got lost |
| 16:34.39 | Nefarion | self.frame.initialConfigFunction = GridLayout_InitialConfigFunction |
| 16:34.51 | Nefarion | grid has it too... so it can't be addonspecific, right? |
| 16:36.13 | Shirik | hm, so it is part of SGHT |
| 16:36.33 | Shirik | however, it is a function, not a string |
| 16:36.34 | Nefarion | SGHT? |
| 16:36.38 | Shirik | ignore that |
| 16:36.47 | Shirik | suffice to say it is part of the WoW API and I have never seen it |
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| 16:37.00 | Nefarion | Secure anything i guess XD |
| 16:37.23 | Shirik | point is, it should not be a string |
| 16:37.59 | Nefarion | so i just go like myframe.initialConfigFunction = function() myshithere end? |
| 16:38.32 | Shirik | yes |
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| 16:47.21 | alestane | "Weddings can be rather similar to funerals in that, apart from the main players, when it's all over, people are never sure what they should be doing next, which is why they see if there is any wine left." |
| 16:50.36 | Lopeppeppy | Death at a Funeral is my favorite dark dark humor movie. :) I don't think you're quoting it, but you reminded me of it. |
| 16:52.04 | karl_w_w | oh look, ms flight lets you buy hawaii |
| 16:52.09 | karl_w_w | I never realised it was for sale |
| 16:55.11 | Nefarion | hmm... i ran the following: |
| 16:55.22 | Nefarion | for k,v in pairs(myframe) do |
| 16:55.25 | Nefarion | print(k,v) |
| 16:55.26 | Nefarion | end |
| 16:55.40 | Nefarion | and got output: |
| 16:55.40 | Nefarion | 0 userdata: 1F69EE64 |
| 16:55.41 | Nefarion | PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD function: 18D9C360 |
| 16:55.41 | Nefarion | __elements table: 18E51910 |
| 16:56.15 | Nefarion | but why can't i run for k,v in pairs(myframe.__elements) do print(k,v) end? |
| 16:56.17 | alestane | The 0 is the link between the Frame in Lua and the frame in C++. Leave it alone. |
| 16:56.29 | Nefarion | i left it alone XD |
| 16:56.45 | alestane | Define "Can't"...what happens when you try? |
| 16:57.12 | Nefarion | no output... even if i use print((k or 'nil), (v or 'nil') |
| 16:57.20 | Nefarion | missing one ) here |
| 16:57.29 | alestane | There there are no pairs to iterate over. |
| 16:58.05 | alestane | You go through the loop once per key-value pair, so if there are no pairs, you do it no times. |
| 16:58.11 | Nefarion | but if i go to the "child" frame and i use :GetParent() i get the "myframe" again |
| 16:59.18 | Fisker | i don't understand this |
| 16:59.31 | Shirik | that's because this is a pointer |
| 16:59.31 | alestane | If you said child:SetParent(myFrame), then child:GetParent() == myFrame. |
| 16:59.34 | Shirik | you want *this |
| 16:59.39 | Fisker | how can a company named "Americans for Tax Reform" agree to never raise the taxes ever and be called "Americans for Tax Reform"? :( |
| 17:00.02 | Nefarion | @Shirik, how do i get it? |
| 17:00.16 | Shirik | that was a joke at Fisker, Nefarion, ignore me |
| 17:00.32 | Nefarion | oh i see... |
| 17:00.45 | Fisker | i love you Shirik |
| 17:00.50 | haste | Nefarion: initialConfigFunction is a string, not a function |
| 17:00.53 | Shirik | what |
| 17:00.55 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 17:00.59 | haste | yes it is |
| 17:00.59 | Fisker | can't love you? |
| 17:01.00 | Shirik | we just went over this |
| 17:01.07 | Shirik | Then the code I was looking at earlier was wrong |
| 17:01.16 | Shirik | http://forums.curseforge.com/showthread.php?t=17650 |
| 17:01.17 | haste | it's been a string since 4.x |
| 17:01.35 | haste | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/SecureGroupHeaders.lua#L625-635 |
| 17:01.38 | Shirik | ._. |
| 17:01.49 | haste | that was for the aura frame, but it's the same for unit buttons |
| 17:01.56 | haste | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/SecureGroupHeaders.lua#L102-112 |
| 17:02.03 | Shirik | stab stab stab |
| 17:02.11 | haste | it was a function in 2.x to 3.x |
| 17:02.20 | foxlit | "Shirik: point is, it should not be a string" << curious. |
| 17:02.33 | haste | it gets compiled to a restricted function now tho' |
| 17:02.37 | karl_w_w | it's amazing how buggy microsoft's websites are |
| 17:02.38 | foxlit | But it looks like you've figured it out while I was reading scrollback. |
| 17:02.59 | Shirik | This is why I always let someone else do the UI |
| 17:03.05 | Nefarion | ^^ |
| 17:03.13 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:03.15 | Fisker | wanna hey? |
| 17:03.21 | Shirik | I have done one UI auctioneer thing: Change a bit of text from "Regex" to "Lua Pattern" |
| 17:03.24 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 17:03.28 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:03.38 | Nefarion | anyway, now if i do SetAttribute("myfunc", [[ myfunc here]]) how do i execute it? |
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| 17:04.15 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:04.32 | foxlit | Nefarion: you generally do not. |
| 17:04.42 | Nefarion | noes... |
| 17:04.48 | Nefarion | but could i? XD |
| 17:05.33 | foxlit | certainly. |
| 17:05.35 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:05.46 | Nefarion | @ foxlit: and how? XD |
| 17:07.38 | foxlit | find the relevant header, and use Execute/RunFor to run it in the right context. |
| 17:07.49 | Nefarion | thanks |
| 17:07.49 | Nefarion | :) |
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| 17:21.29 | p3lim | Who's the current author of Bartender? |
| 17:23.25 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel |
| 17:23.38 | p3lim | ~seen nevcariel |
| 17:23.46 | purl | p3lim: i haven't seen 'nevcariel' |
| 17:23.46 | Stanzilla | close, try again |
| 17:23.48 | p3lim | ~seen nevcairiel |
| 17:23.48 | purl | nevcairiel is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 62 messages. Is idling for 19h 35m 35s, last said: 'if you have 10, the chances that some get it right is much higher :p'. |
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| 17:33.24 | Nefarion | how can that be?: i call local header = self:GetParent() and then i do "for k,v in header:GetChildren() do print(k,v) end" and i only get "0 userdate: hexvaluehere" |
| 17:33.41 | Nefarion | *userdata |
| 17:35.05 | alestane | I'm frankly amazed if that works at all. |
| 17:35.23 | alestane | header:GetChildren() doesn't return an iterator. |
| 17:35.36 | Nefarion | *in pairs(header:GetChildren())... sry |
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| 17:36.13 | alestane | Well, that's going to iterate only over the first of the children in that form. |
| 17:36.25 | nevcairiel | GetChildren probably returns a list |
| 17:36.31 | Nefarion | hmm how can i iterate over everything? |
| 17:36.34 | Stanzilla | Kemayo: http://paste2.org/p/1921618 |
| 17:36.35 | nevcairiel | pairs only uses the first value from that list |
| 17:36.45 | nevcairiel | and the userdata is really the only member of any frame |
| 17:36.50 | Nefarion | i see |
| 17:36.54 | nevcairiel | all the functions are hidden in a metatable |
| 17:37.15 | alestane | "in pairs{header:GetChildren()} do" might help if you want to see all the children. |
| 17:37.34 | nevcairiel | i hate it when people skip the () just because they can! |
| 17:37.41 | Nefarion | what do the {} do? |
| 17:37.52 | nevcairiel | wrap the list into a table for pairs to iterate on |
| 17:37.57 | Nefarion | nice |
| 17:38.53 | Nefarion | now i get a table returned :) |
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| 18:03.56 | p3lim | grr, having issues with SecureStateHeader and actions/pages |
| 18:04.06 | p3lim | Trying to fix an issue with oBindings |
| 18:04.13 | foxlit | moo? |
| 18:04.58 | foxlit | it *should* be relatively straightforward |
| 18:05.31 | p3lim | Issue I'm having is on Nefarian during druid class call (forced cat-form) |
| 18:06.02 | p3lim | Dominos handles it properly, but I have no idea how :p |
| 18:06.37 | foxlit | am I wrong in assuming that dominos is action-id based? |
| 18:06.51 | Lunessa | it is action-id based |
| 18:07.14 | foxlit | so what likely happens it that the client cheats majorly. |
| 18:07.30 | foxlit | Nef being early in their ui/encounter design days anyway. |
| 18:08.14 | p3lim | How can I track that though? |
| 18:08.16 | foxlit | You probably aren't in the real cat form, so [form] is blatantly wrong; client gets away with it by remapping action IDs to point to the cat bar via some other mechanism. |
| 18:08.27 | p3lim | I'm not |
| 18:08.37 | p3lim | No cat-form buff |
| 18:09.10 | foxlit | not that you can detect that from where it matters anyway. |
| 18:09.11 | p3lim | Yeah that is what I guessed Dominos did, but I can't see it doing that |
| 18:09.30 | foxlit | p3lim: it wouldn't need to do anything to deal with it, presumably. |
| 18:09.39 | nevcairiel | it probably uses the [bonusbar:x] conditions |
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| 18:10.14 | p3lim | It does |
| 18:10.19 | foxlit | testing during nef must be a nightmare, though. |
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| 18:10.35 | nevcairiel | you would use [bonusbar] for stance switching anyway |
| 18:10.40 | nevcairiel | it happens to just work with nef |
| 18:11.12 | foxlit | hm? Intuitively, I'd use [form] for stance switching :P |
| 18:11.28 | p3lim | foxlit: You don't say, I shadowmeld to reset him, but he uses 10-15 minutes to respawn |
| 18:11.36 | nevcairiel | form has the issue that the numbers can change meaning depending on if you learned all forms |
| 18:11.58 | nevcairiel | it was a real issue back in the day when druids were too lazy to do the aquatic quest |
| 18:12.21 | p3lim | Doesnt work as a real form now though |
| 18:12.45 | p3lim | Player is considered beeing in caster form, as with flight form and travel form |
| 18:12.51 | p3lim | Afaik |
| 18:14.14 | nevcairiel | also, the mindcontrol/posess bar is also a bonusbar modifier, so might as well stick with it for consistency |
| 18:14.55 | p3lim | bonusbar:5 afaik |
| 18:14.59 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:15.19 | p3lim | Gonna try using bonusbar:N then |
| 18:15.45 | nevcairiel | cat should be 1, tree 2, bear 3 and moonkin 4 |
| 18:16.01 | p3lim | Is it based on what you have trained? |
| 18:16.05 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:16.06 | p3lim | Or is that form: |
| 18:16.16 | nevcairiel | form depends on which you know |
| 18:16.18 | nevcairiel | at least used to |
| 18:16.23 | nevcairiel | dunno if thats still the case |
| 18:20.45 | Arrowmaster | http://www.denofgeek.com/television/1264476/46_things_we_learned_from_the_game_of_thrones_blurays.html |
| 18:21.40 | p3lim | Still quite a lot of spells that doesn't work with it thouogh |
| 18:21.59 | p3lim | Savage Roar, Ravage (talent proc) just to name a few |
| 18:22.22 | foxlit | presumably spells that require proper cat form. |
| 18:25.00 | foxlit | It's basically a Blizzard error, but since the intention of class calls is just to spoil your life in some fashion, it's probably not a big issue even if it prevented you from using any abilities |
| 18:25.48 | p3lim | It'll do, atleast I can use some spells without going to spellbook :p |
| 18:26.21 | p3lim | You sure that treeform is 2`? |
| 18:27.10 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 18:27.38 | Nefarion | wasn't there an "enum" for it? |
| 18:27.53 | Nefarion | like FORM_BEAR, FORM_CAT and stuff? |
| 18:27.53 | nevcairiel | at least it was a while ago. Maybe it doesnt get any bonusbar anymore these days |
| 18:28.14 | nevcairiel | because it changed to this temporary thing |
| 18:28.34 | nevcairiel | my info is mostly pre 4.0 :p |
| 18:28.46 | foxlit | and I don't bother with bars : |
| 18:28.47 | foxlit | ( |
| 18:30.03 | foxlit | it's nothing. |
| 18:30.20 | foxlit | [nobonusbar] is true while in tree form now. |
| 18:30.37 | Nefarion | check for the aura? |
| 18:31.54 | nevcairiel | its a temporary buff, i would argue you just dont need a bar for that. :p |
| 18:32.02 | nevcairiel | can probably do it with [form] |
| 18:42.07 | Dagmar | Just wait for the Faire to come again |
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| 18:50.46 | Dagmar | [tonkmode] > * |
| 18:53.35 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 18:53.38 | Fisker | not so hey Parnic |
| 18:58.30 | mckenziemc | hey so not Fisker |
| 18:58.40 | Fisker | not so hey mckenziemc |
| 19:12.16 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/721297/assassins-creed-3-box-art-released/ |
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| 19:25.30 | Adys | Ars technica comments bring my hope back up again |
| 19:25.50 | Adys | people actually being sensible and telling Ars to shove it with its "omg google changing its privacy policy" articles |
| 19:26.03 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/03/googles-new-privacy-policy-what-has-changed-and-what-you-can-do-about-it.ars?comments=1 |
| 19:26.09 | Adys | this entire article is pathetic |
| 19:26.19 | Adys | title: "what has changed and what you can do about it" |
| 19:26.38 | Adys | content: "blah blah EFF, blah blah White House, blah blah read new policy here" |
| 19:26.41 | Arrowmaster | where there any bad changes? |
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| 19:27.04 | Adys | no; some people are concerned that their data is shared between youtube and google mostly |
| 19:27.15 | Adys | or picasa and google |
| 19:27.46 | Adys | i can understand that but google supports logging on to up to 10 accounts at the *same time* |
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| 19:29.50 | foxlit | Adys: isn't that a bad thing? |
| 19:29.54 | Arrowmaster | yeah im always on at least 3 accounts at once, 4 if i get on my old collage account |
| 19:30.02 | Adys | foxlit: the sharing thing? |
| 19:30.09 | foxlit | no, multiple accounts thing |
| 19:30.15 | Adys | why would it be a bad thing? |
| 19:30.35 | foxlit | Because it seems like you'd never be certain which account you're currently on |
| 19:30.41 | Adys | my point was, if you wanna split your data between google services and keep it separate, you might as well make a new account |
| 19:30.48 | Arrowmaster | it tells you exactly which you are on |
| 19:30.50 | Adys | it shows in the infobar |
| 19:30.55 | Adys | its quite clear |
| 19:30.57 | foxlit | And you always look in the infobar? |
| 19:31.02 | Adys | um.. yes? |
| 19:31.06 | ZorbaBeta | it's not like it randomly changes accounts from under you |
| 19:31.13 | Adys | yeah what zorba saisd |
| 19:31.19 | ZorbaBeta | if you need to be in a specific account for some reason you just glance over there and change it if needed |
| 19:31.22 | foxlit | as opposed to just typing a query in your browser's search bar and getting that logged under the last account you used on some site some amount of time ago? |
| 19:31.33 | Adys | foxlit: did you try the multi accounts thing? its actually very good |
| 19:31.46 | foxlit | I tried the account/not account thing. |
| 19:31.54 | foxlit | I can never remember whether I'm logged in or not |
| 19:32.00 | Adys | foxlit: you're logged in to a default account for everything basically, so if you open a new url yourself it goes on that account |
| 19:32.19 | Adys | foxlit: if you log on to a different account, it opens a new tab and that tab is logged on that account |
| 19:32.35 | Adys | any google urls clicked from that tab are logged on to that account |
| 19:32.51 | pompy | should i have done anything to prepare for the privacy policy change? |
| 19:33.07 | foxlit | You could ask to wipe your search history, but meh. |
| 19:33.40 | foxlit | That seems rather pointless; and if I remember correctly, that's all the "ZOMG PRIVACY POLICY CHANGE SOON!" articles ever amounted to. |
| 19:33.46 | Adys | Yeah |
| 19:34.02 | Adys | and its stupid. you can *always* wipe it |
| 19:34.05 | Dagmar | Don't forget the "WE THINK GOOGLE SHOULD PAY US MUNNIES" argument |
| 19:34.07 | Arrowmaster | google never had my search history |
| 19:34.17 | Arrowmaster | since i told them not to track it a long time ago |
| 19:34.32 | Adys | Arrowmaster: it is temporarily tracked in cookies |
| 19:34.40 | Adys | though that doesnt last long |
| 19:34.43 | Dagmar | Thankfully it does seem that their legal team is playing less nice-nice lately and more "please provide us with a _reasoned argument_ as to why we should care" |
| 19:35.02 | Arrowmaster | right but the 'omg last day to clear your history' articles were talking about the stuff saved to your account |
| 19:35.07 | Adys | yea |
| 19:35.09 | Adys | ridiculous |
| 19:35.13 | Adys | though people who say "OH GOD COOKIES! GOOGLE HAS MY DATA" piss me off |
| 19:35.37 | Adys | if <service> stores data in cookies, <service> does not have your datsa |
| 19:35.41 | Adys | YOU have your own fucking data |
| 19:35.59 | Dagmar | Adys: I just generally tell them "Shut up and let the grown-ups worry about that." |
| 19:36.03 | Arrowmaster | well that depends if its really stored in cookies or stored on the server and linked with a cookie |
| 19:36.49 | Adys | Arrowmaster: in the case of google searches, its localstorage+cookies, plus a very ephemereal serverside storage afaik (like 24 hours) |
| 19:37.20 | Adys | its mostly indented for anonymous users |
| 19:37.28 | Lunessa | Still google does aggregate data about you and it does make many people uncomfortable. Google *does* unlike some companies -cough facebook cough - give you more options for not aggregating information about you. It is not wrong for people to be concerned. |
| 19:37.48 | Adys | Lunessa: thats what pisses me off though |
| 19:37.56 | Adys | other companies aggregate just as much data |
| 19:38.02 | Adys | the difference is, facebook sells it |
| 19:38.04 | Adys | google uses it |
| 19:38.20 | Adys | people dont see #1 so they dont bitch; people see #2 so they bitch |
| 19:38.24 | durcyn | targeted advertising isn't selling your data? your definitions are strange. |
| 19:38.36 | Adys | durcyn: bullshit. |
| 19:38.39 | durcyn | users are google's product just as much as they are facebook's |
| 19:38.42 | Arrowmaster | nobody outside of google sees it |
| 19:38.54 | Arrowmaster | there is a big difference there |
| 19:39.05 | durcyn | "if you can't tell what a company sells, it's you" applies equally to both |
| 19:39.06 | Adys | durcyn: if i buy an ad on adwords and target it to people who like motorcycles |
| 19:39.19 | Adys | google doesnt sell me the data of everyone who likes motorcycles |
| 19:39.25 | Adys | they fucking match me up |
| 19:39.28 | Cide | the user is the product in both cases, sure |
| 19:39.31 | durcyn | this whole mantra of "google isn't evil" just because they claimed it was their motto once, is laughable |
| 19:39.37 | Cide | but that's not what Adys is referring to |
| 19:39.59 | durcyn | and i'm saying it's a difference without distinction |
| 19:40.04 | durcyn | someone else still has my data and is profiting from it |
| 19:40.05 | Arrowmaster | to google your private data is a product they use so they have reason to protect it, to facebook your private data is a product they sell so they have less reason to protect it, to the company that bought your private data from facebook your private data is a purchase so they have ZERO reason to protect it |
| 19:40.06 | Adys | idiot |
| 19:40.11 | Adys | there is a huge distinction. |
| 19:40.17 | Cide | google has your data because you use google |
| 19:40.20 | ZorbaBeta | I think it's a difference with a gigantic distinction |
| 19:40.25 | Cide | arbitrary companies have your data because you use facebook |
| 19:40.37 | ZorbaBeta | the difference is that, in one situation, a random company has my personal information. in the other situation, they don't. |
| 19:41.11 | durcyn | you honestly don't think that google would happily leak just as much through fucked up app permissions as fb does now, given the chance? |
| 19:41.19 | Lunessa | I think the one aspect that creeps people the fuck out is that Google aggregates your search history. |
| 19:41.22 | ZorbaBeta | I don't think so, no. |
| 19:41.27 | Adys | durcyn: When a company *sells* your data, they sell personally-identifiable data matched up with the product data. (eg, "i want to buy the emails of 10000 users who like motorcycles") |
| 19:41.28 | durcyn | also, Adys, I don't believe I ever called you an idiot |
| 19:41.34 | Lunessa | But they fail to understand that their ISPs are doing that too. |
| 19:41.45 | Dagmar | I think that Google has a more mature "deny all" approach towards that particular issue that makes them far more trustworthy than Facebook. |
| 19:41.53 | Adys | durcyn: I did not mean to insult you, I meant to make you notice your lack of sense of reasoning. |
| 19:41.58 | Arrowmaster | also if a company purchases your data from facebook and then gets bought out or bankrupt and their assets are sold off, your private data is an asset that can be purchased with zero reguard for the companies previous privacy policy |
| 19:42.10 | Adys | aye |
| 19:42.12 | Dagmar | Facebook's API's primary goal is giving advertisers access to your information. |
| 19:42.13 | durcyn | arriving at a conclusion dissimilar to yours doesn't imply lack of sense either |
| 19:42.21 | Adys | also, durcyn: this whole mantra of saying "google is evil" just because their motto is "dont be evil" is just as ridiculous |
| 19:42.27 | Dagmar | Google+'s APIs primary goal is to get you in touch with your people. |
| 19:42.35 | durcyn | no, I think they're evil because they _do_ _evil_ _things_ |
| 19:42.41 | Adys | such as what? |
| 19:42.51 | Lunessa | And I've been saying it for years "using social media or gmail is essentially a concession of defeat on the privacy front." |
| 19:43.18 | foxlit | gmail? |
| 19:43.21 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: but gmails spam filters are so good |
| 19:43.24 | durcyn | Adys: circumventing third party cookie settings in safari being the most recent |
| 19:43.33 | Cide | gmail's spam filter is really bad for me |
| 19:43.37 | durcyn | Adys: deliberately, intentionally, willfully breaking privacy settings to sell more ads |
| 19:43.38 | Cide | I get spam every day |
| 19:43.45 | Cide | I never understood that part |
| 19:43.52 | Arrowmaster | do you get sweedish spam? |
| 19:43.53 | Adys | durcyn: #1: bug; #2: [citation needed] |
| 19:43.56 | Cide | no |
| 19:43.59 | Dagmar | durcyn: That was not what they were making it out to be |
| 19:44.02 | Arrowmaster | odd |
| 19:44.07 | Lunessa | gmail scans your email to serve ads. I don't care if it's a computer reading my email, it's still reading my email. (Please note, I know SMTP is rediculously porous anyway.) |
| 19:44.12 | Dagmar | It was _definitely_ not what the fucking moron from Microsoft was making it out to be |
| 19:44.12 | durcyn | bug? my ass. |
| 19:44.18 | Adys | durcyn: have you fucking looked at it? |
| 19:44.19 | Cide | Your recent Dodge Caliber service at Boniface-Hiers Chrysler Dodge Jeep |
| 19:44.29 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Carp at Amazon. |
| 19:44.35 | Cide | computers always read email |
| 19:44.36 | Adys | durcyn: theres a bugs.webkit entry; it was even reported by a google engineer iirc |
| 19:44.39 | Cide | that's how they store it in a database |
| 19:44.45 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Amazon crreps me out too. |
| 19:44.47 | ZorbaBeta | durcyn, I used to work in the ad optimization department at Google. We did not do things like that. |
| 19:45.01 | Dagmar | Lunessa: I've been watching it long enough to be sure Gmail _only_ cares about the specific email you're looking at right then |
| 19:45.04 | Cide | Fission Energy BUY ALERT Issued: FIS-V |
| 19:45.22 | Adys | durcyn: are you familiar with hanlon's razor? |
| 19:45.30 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Amazon, on the other hand, works with an ad bureau that definitely tracks you across multiple sites over time |
| 19:45.33 | Dagmar | THAT is positively stalky |
| 19:45.50 | durcyn | Adys: yes. |
| 19:45.51 | Adys | durcyn: think of it this way: google has access to *SO MUCH DATA* in perfectly legal ways. WHY THE HELL would they risk doing very illegal things to get more? |
| 19:46.08 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: back me up on this >< |
| 19:46.12 | Lunessa | Indeed. So does Facebook - and to some extent now, Google ( "Like" and "+1" buttons). |
| 19:46.22 | Cide | besides |
| 19:46.25 | Cide | google search history ftw |
| 19:46.30 | Dagmar | durcyn: Microsoft just flat out lied about what Google was doing. |
| 19:46.30 | Cide | saved me so many times |
| 19:46.49 | Dagmar | IE implments that spec incorrectly. Period. |
| 19:46.56 | Adys | Cide: I actually wiped mine out a while ago. it made my search results visibly less relevant |
| 19:47.00 | Adys | im a sad panda now |
| 19:47.05 | Dagmar | ...but since no one ever seems to ever look into these things on their own, they felt free to make shit up. |
| 19:47.28 | Adys | Cide: when I googled "bbt" before, it brought me to wikipedia's list of the big bang theory episodes |
| 19:47.30 | Dagmar | <-- reads RFCs and doesn't trust anyone he can't kill. |
| 19:47.34 | Adys | now it brings me to... basal body temperature |
| 19:47.37 | Adys | the fuck is that |
| 19:47.48 | Cide | I just like easily re-finding stuff I googled |
| 19:47.51 | Cide | if I lost the link |
| 19:47.52 | Adys | Basal body temperature is the lowest temperature attained by the body during rest (usually during sleep). |
| 19:47.53 | Adys | TIL |
| 19:48.20 | Arrowmaster | you should post it on reddit |
| 19:48.24 | Dagmar | Adys: It's not the same for everyone. :) |
| 19:48.54 | Adys | if you use google enough, its search results become *scarily* relevant |
| 19:49.02 | Adys | including the autocomplete |
| 19:49.22 | Dagmar | So you're saying if I Google it, I'll get links to "how to tell if you're a vampire"? |
| 19:49.22 | Cide | hmm |
| 19:49.36 | Cide | "why is my" autocompleted to "why is my poop green" |
| 19:49.43 | Cide | you're wrong Adys! |
| 19:49.51 | ZorbaBeta | adys, you're completely right, for what it's worth. :) |
| 19:50.05 | Adys | of course I am I'm a fucking genius |
| 19:50.07 | ZorbaBeta | I mean we even avoided using a few completely legal sources because it would just be too dang creepy |
| 19:50.13 | Dagmar | Adys: Yes, google does scope it's results differently based on your past searches... for a reason |
| 19:50.34 | Adys | Dagmar: yes, that reason being "they become more relevant over time" |
| 19:50.40 | Dagmar | This is why you can punch in pretty much any crap from WoW and the first hit will be WoW-related. You do a lot of WoW-searches, so "world of warcraft" becomes implied |
| 19:50.51 | Adys | ya. i miss that. |
| 19:50.54 | Arrowmaster | maybe having all that history stuff disabled is why my google searches havent been very good |
| 19:51.01 | Dagmar | ...but the ads that appear are only based on the results it's showing you, not your past search history. |
| 19:51.33 | Adys | Im also quite annoyed that google search history is neither on dataliberation nor on takeout |
| 19:51.35 | Nefarion | ye but the pages that feature googleAds, there the ads are based on your history |
| 19:51.47 | Dagmar | I've yet to see that |
| 19:52.02 | Adys | Nefarion: not exactly |
| 19:52.04 | Dagmar | I make sure things like that will become glaringly obvious. |
| 19:52.06 | Adys | not afaik at least |
| 19:52.21 | Dagmar | I regularly do a lot of websearches for dildos just to suss that stuff out |
| 19:52.22 | Adys | Nefarion: the ads are relevant to the search results -- the search results are based on your history |
| 19:52.26 | Adys | its the whole a = b = c thing |
| 19:52.34 | Nefarion | ^^ |
| 19:52.37 | Nefarion | -> a = c |
| 19:52.40 | Dagmar | seeing ads for dildos appear on ComputerGeeks.com was pretty hilarious |
| 19:52.46 | Nefarion | ^^ |
| 19:53.00 | Lopeppeppy | Hey, someone has to sell a clue to male geeks. |
| 19:53.01 | Nefarion | That means you have been searching for such stuff in the past? XD |
| 19:53.02 | Cide | and now you search for wowhead |
| 19:53.02 | Dagmar | That was from _Amazons_ shillery, not Google's. |
| 19:53.04 | Cide | and get dildos |
| 19:53.12 | Cide | THE PLAN BACKFIRED |
| 19:53.26 | Nefarion | XXD |
| 19:53.27 | Dagmar | I've got a different set of "hahaha" searches I feed Google. |
| 19:53.31 | Adys | Amazon is exactly the opposite of the good-design spectrum |
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| 19:53.50 | Adys | whatever you search and look at on their site, they think its relevant |
| 19:54.06 | Dagmar | Dildos are a particularly handy stalking horse for this, since women suffer a lot of self-denial about them |
| 19:54.21 | kd3|netbook | o_O |
| 19:54.23 | Adys | you'd think amazon by now would KNOW that SOME people, SOMETIMES |
| 19:54.29 | Adys | buy products as a one-off based need. |
| 19:54.32 | Dagmar | The people selling them are highly incentivized to categorize them as anything _other than_ dildos without making them impossible to find. |
| 19:54.47 | Dagmar | You will find them sold as novelty shifters for your car, due to some state laws. |
| 19:54.53 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Some of that has to do with local law too. |
| 19:54.55 | Arrowmaster | youve scared kd3|netbook for life now |
| 19:55.00 | kd3|netbook | haha, no |
| 19:55.03 | kd3|netbook | not even close |
| 19:55.11 | Adys | "Oh, you bought an airpump for a doublebed air mattress you needed while moving out two years ago? ARE YOU INTERESTED IN THOSE SIMILAR AIRPUMPS?" |
| 19:55.24 | Lunessa | I suspect KD3 knows where to buy anything salacious he could ever want. |
| 19:55.40 | ZorbaBeta | you never know when the guy buying from amazon is the CEO of the world's largest international air pump museum |
| 19:55.49 | Dagmar | Hell I bouhgt a little massager unit at the Walgreens a few years ago to use on my calf muscles and the lady clerk was giving me funny looks. |
| 19:55.56 | kd3|netbook | indeed. I've been not-so-unwillingly dragged to such shops by girlfriends in the past |
| 19:56.01 | kd3|netbook | >.> |
| 19:56.16 | Adys | yes |
| 19:56.25 | Cide | did you find it by a link... to the past? |
| 19:56.26 | Adys | I too have been "dragged" to such shops by "girlfriends" |
| 19:56.44 | Nefarion | left hand dragged right hand? |
| 19:56.55 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 19:56.59 | kd3|netbook | lo |
| 19:57.00 | kd3|netbook | l* |
| 19:57.07 | Cide | l? |
| 19:57.09 | Cide | what do you mean l |
| 19:57.15 | Dagmar | I can back him up on the plausibility at least |
| 19:57.17 | kd3|netbook | lol* |
| 19:57.40 | Dagmar | I've had a few girlfriends decide to try and figure out if I was "toy friendly" or not by dragging me into Metro News to pick something up |
| 19:57.56 | Dagmar | You just wouldn't believe the basement floor of that place. |
| 19:58.16 | Dagmar | It's like Rock City, but with rubber penises. |
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| 19:58.37 | Dagmar | The only thing missing is little houses. |
| 19:59.13 | Lunessa | kd3|netbook: When a woman takes you to such a shop, the wise man willingly goes. *nod* |
| 19:59.19 | Dagmar | Damn right |
| 19:59.20 | kd3|netbook | yup |
| 19:59.31 | Cairenn | rolls her eyes |
| 19:59.41 | kd3|netbook | what? |
| 19:59.51 | kd3|netbook | tries to not chuckle in class |
| 20:00.02 | Cairenn | *giggle* |
| 20:00.11 | Arrowmaster | only in this channel could the topic go from googles privacy policy to dildos |
| 20:00.21 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 20:00.31 | Dagmar | well, there's dildos in video games, too yaknow. |
| 20:00.38 | ZorbaBeta | I dunno man. this is the internet. I've seen weirder |
| 20:01.30 | Cairenn | Dagmar: yes, yes there is >< |
| 20:01.43 | Cairenn | are* |
| 20:01.46 | kd3|netbook | saint's row... wasn't there one in san andreas too? |
| 20:01.54 | Arrowmaster | yes and yes |
| 20:01.59 | Dagmar | Yeah but you didn't use that one as a prestige weapon |
| 20:02.34 | kd3|netbook | whee. time to bail. hopefully the electricians are done by now |
| 20:10.46 | Arrowmaster | i think its time to run rdfind on my external drive since ive moved stuff over to it and probably borken all the old hardlinks |
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| 20:35.35 | Adys | The password is not valid! Please use only numbers and letters. The password must be at least 8 characters long. |
| 20:35.36 | Adys | FUCK YOU |
| 20:36.52 | cbreak | just use a sentence |
| 20:37.02 | Adys | i cant use spaces |
| 20:37.10 | cbreak | :/ |
| 20:37.29 | cbreak | UseASentenceLikeThisButWithoutMeaning |
| 20:37.39 | Adys | fuck it i probably cant even use caps |
| 20:37.56 | cbreak | or just spell out all the letters |
| 20:38.01 | Adys | cbreak: maxlength="12" |
| 20:38.02 | Adys | ................ |
| 20:38.12 | Adys | I WILL SHOOT THESE PEOPLE |
| 20:38.13 | cbreak | if your old password was #*! use "sharpstarexclamationmark" |
| 20:38.14 | cbreak | ... |
| 20:38.17 | cbreak | what the hell |
| 20:38.27 | Adys | I sent a rage email |
| 20:38.42 | Adys | this better be fixed in the next hour or I'll burn them to the ground |
| 20:38.47 | Adys | assnerf them tseric style |
| 20:40.25 | cbreak | what kind of insecure service are you complaining about? |
| 20:40.59 | Adys | cbreak: some app repository |
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| 20:50.47 | Lunessa | Adys: Have you considered decaff lately? |
| 20:50.55 | Adys | ? |
| 20:51.23 | Lunessa | You're more worked up and angry today than I have ever seen you. I'm wondering if you're over-caffeinated. |
| 20:56.32 | Arrowmaster | seems like normal Adys to me |
| 20:57.44 | Adys | Indeed. |
| 20:58.34 | Lunessa | Two angry rants in one day? Hrm, must not be paying enough attention. |
| 20:58.44 | Arrowmaster | personally i just have one can of pop a day and after that just water |
| 21:00.04 | Alram | adys did an angry rant? |
| 21:00.07 | Alram | adys psych sucks |
| 21:00.25 | Lunessa | Argh. I forgot to write down specs for the my windows box mobo so I could shop for RAM while I was at work. ARGH. |
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| 21:07.06 | olafski | always nice to see kindness repaid.. I won a dps item by accident and gave it to the dps, for which he thanked me by taking 2 tank items =( |
| 21:07.26 | olafski | I'll keep believing that being nice will helop in the end though =) |
| 21:10.24 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/YUcr2 |
| 21:13.29 | mikma | cairenn: http://imgur.com/gallery/MdRue |
| 21:16.17 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 21:34.13 | starlon | Here's FroyVisuals doing its thing in an emulator. 5 fps :) http://imgur.com/x4OPE |
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| 21:34.52 | kd3 | yay electricity |
| 21:37.56 | Cairenn | electricity is handy |
| 21:38.27 | alestane | Except when it's stored up in the doorknob. |
| 21:38.45 | kd3 | then it's just hilarious, as long as it's not you. |
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| 21:39.33 | Nefarion | hmm how can i print the Regions from GetRegion of a frame? XD |
| 21:40.14 | Nefarion | btw i own such a doorknob XD just @ my office... the freaking carpet is so fluffy it builds up electricity XD |
| 21:40.46 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/GFqfV |
| 21:41.06 | Lunessa | Doorknobs and carpets; conspiring since their invention. |
| 21:41.07 | mikma | yeah, i saw the ball last time, now it's even better |
| 21:41.34 | Dagmar | Nefarion: Snuggle fabric softener. Get some, dilute it to about 1:20 with water, spray over carpet. |
| 21:42.16 | Nefarion | i do that every half year.. only helps for about a month... |
| 21:42.56 | Nefarion | Anyone got an idea about how to get the count or name of the "GetRegions()" func? |
| 21:42.57 | Dagmar | I generally only worry about it during the winter... when certain carpets around this office start trying to kill people and computers. |
| 21:45.05 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEKeekluMoI |
| 21:47.24 | Cairenn | Humidifiers *nod nod* |
| 21:48.14 | alestane | Nefarion: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-select |
| 21:51.30 | Lunessa | Dagmar: You don't use that industrial carpet for high-traffic areas? |
| 21:53.34 | alestane | "We live in a world where yaoi manga sells too fast to be kept on the shelves, where slash fiction is one of the largest gift economies on earth, where romance novels comprise fifty percent of all paperback book sales, and we’re told women don’t like porn." |
| 21:54.20 | Nefarion | ^^ |
| 21:55.12 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1DAR79Q4Pc&feature=related |
| 21:55.15 | mikma | yes, he was amazing. |
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| 22:08.05 | Lunessa | http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2012/03/zemlin-praises-25-linux-computer-a-windows-license-costs-more-than-four-raspberry-pis.ars |
| 22:09.01 | nevcairiel | personally, i think those things are way overrated |
| 22:09.39 | Thunder_Child | why? |
| 22:09.41 | Lunessa | I'm excited by the possibilites of an essentially disposable computer. |
| 22:10.27 | Lunessa | You can buy loads of these things on a budget and give them to students. You can build complex computing projects on a budget. It's exciting. |
| 22:10.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont like that they are using broadcom hardware |
| 22:10.55 | Thunder_Child | bundle that with a pico projector and you can have a whole puter in your pocket |
| 22:12.43 | nevcairiel | People keep calling it a "computer", but that thing is way too weak to qualify as that |
| 22:12.57 | nevcairiel | sure, it can play movies, but thats about all it can, thanks to a special dsp chip to do that |
| 22:13.28 | Thunder_Child | you dont think it is equal to a netbook or so? |
| 22:13.36 | nevcairiel | no |
| 22:14.02 | nevcairiel | its slower then most phones (admittedly cheaper, too) |
| 22:14.49 | karl_w_w | who here knows about batch files? |
| 22:15.03 | Thunder_Child | ~asktoask |
| 22:15.03 | purl | Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can. |
| 22:15.04 | Thunder_Child | :p |
| 22:15.06 | nevcairiel | the gpu on it is ok, according to some reviews, but the cpu is just not fast |
| 22:15.34 | karl_w_w | i figured there might be a windows channel so I'll try there first :P |
| 22:15.36 | nevcairiel | its a nice toy to play around with, but imho thats where it ends |
| 22:17.27 | Arrowmaster | there was the annoucement of the $199 one kinda like it too but it uses an nvidia chip |
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| 22:22.48 | Fisker | A |
| 22:22.56 | cogwheel | B |
| 22:23.04 | pompy | C |
| 22:23.07 | Fisker | Cogwheel |
| 22:23.42 | Fisker | Hello |
| 22:23.48 | alestane | "Guy who just screamed, 'Occupy, My Ass!' at protestors should rethink his insults." |
| 22:24.22 | Thunder_Child | at least he used the comma |
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| 22:26.07 | Ackis | occupies alestane's ass |
| 22:26.12 | Ackis | pompy: mass effect 3 == sex |
| 22:27.00 | alestane | serves Ackis with an eviction notice. |
| 22:27.25 | Ackis | I pissed my work off :D |
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| 22:31.39 | Stanzilla | when I saw the character animations in me3 |
| 22:31.53 | Stanzilla | the last thing I was thinking about was sex |
| 22:32.31 | Ackis | one girls boobies jiggle really well... great physics |
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| 22:35.20 | alestane | Only the one girl? |
| 22:35.36 | Ackis | all the rest have been in body armor |
| 22:37.13 | alestane | You mean they actually wear body armor that isn't perfectly form-fitting? |
| 22:37.14 | alestane | /shock |
| 22:38.58 | pompy | jessica chobot is in me3! |
| 22:38.59 | Kaylin1 | what we clearly need is armor made out of boobs, that way they serve as padding for things, think mars rover. |
| 22:39.33 | pompy | ~wiki jessica chobot |
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| 22:40.49 | pompy | purl should not output all that code |
| 22:41.00 | bluspacecow | maybe it's having a bad day :P |
| 22:41.09 | Kaylin | Maybe it |
| 22:41.22 | Kaylin | 's not getting enough loving, and has become all chatty/verbose. |
| 22:41.34 | Kaylin | clearly she needs a boyfriend chat bot, |
| 22:44.04 | Nefarion | we got lua_bot for her |
| 22:44.26 | Fisker | Hey bluspacecow |
| 22:44.33 | bluspacecow | hey |
| 22:47.45 | Lunessa | And there's batbot |
| 22:47.55 | Lunessa | batbot is pretty fond of boobs too |
| 22:48.30 | Kaylin | batmanbot? |
| 22:49.07 | Lunessa | boobs (sp?) |
| 22:49.08 | batbot | Lunessa, blobs, bobs, bombs, boob, booby, books, booms, boors, boos, boots, boo BS, boo-BS. |
| 22:49.22 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 22:49.27 | bluspacecow | "boots" |
| 22:49.36 | bluspacecow | i'ld love to see the man that calls a womens boobs boots |
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| 22:51.54 | Kaylin | needs bigger boots. |
| 22:51.58 | Kaylin | o.O |
| 22:52.59 | bluspacecow | http://s303.photobucket.com/albums/nn135/lori_kins/?action=view¤t=big-boots-painted.gif |
| 22:55.50 | karl_w_w | ^taking internet porn to a whole new level |
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| 23:58.31 | mikma | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/iso |
