| 00:12.17 | Thunder_Child | nice catch Kraps, thanks |
| 00:27.08 | Dewin | Dear Amazon, Why do I have to sign up for an account and agree to a membership agreement to UNSUBSCRIBE from a service? |
| 00:28.24 | bluspacecow | for the lolz |
| 00:30.44 | pompy | Dewin: what service |
| 00:33.14 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/383676_10150569544273465_129446698464_10944226_1200557295_n.jpg |
| 00:33.58 | Maldivia | cute |
| 00:36.06 | Kraps | thats pretty epic |
| 00:48.16 | BlackNet | anyone here familar with ldb setups? |
| 00:48.40 | jnwhiteh | depends on what you mean |
| 00:48.41 | jnwhiteh | probably |
| 00:48.49 | jnwhiteh | i have several sources and my own display |
| 00:49.11 | BlackNet | i have a ldb setup in elvui 3.x. trying to get the initial values from the callback handler and everything is coming up blank |
| 00:49.30 | jnwhiteh | why are you doing anything with callback handler? |
| 00:49.54 | jnwhiteh | look at NinjaPanel or a fairly minimal ldb display, the code to handle updates is really easy |
| 00:50.29 | BlackNet | the handler just hands off to in house displays |
| 00:50.44 | jnwhiteh | see http://git.wowinterface.com/?a=viewblob&p=NinjaPanel&h=722e2d1b047e2a603c78af0a5ab18008ae670427&hb=3fc5f093d4722db62ead7925382d5c8446bfdb71&f=NinjaPanel.lua and search for UpdatePlugin |
| 00:50.53 | jnwhiteh | that covers registration for the callback, and the handling of updating. |
| 00:51.01 | BlackNet | ldb.RegisterCallback(self, "LibDataBroker_AttributeChanged_" .. name, "UpdatePlugin") |
| 00:51.03 | BlackNet | there ;) |
| 00:51.08 | BlackNet | same thing that im doing |
| 00:51.11 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 00:51.22 | jnwhiteh | then your UpdatePlugin function needs to do the updates =) |
| 00:51.38 | BlackNet | its' working and all that jazz |
| 00:51.43 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 00:52.15 | Thunder_Child | if it was would you be having this issue? |
| 00:52.19 | BlackNet | when you are released from the event handler i want to get values from the ldb |
| 00:52.34 | jnwhiteh | if you want the values, store them yourself |
| 00:52.37 | BlackNet | but there are no values there at that point |
| 00:53.05 | starlon | Really cool artwork -- http://goo.gl/n50OO |
| 00:53.23 | jnwhiteh | BlackNet: I don't understand.. why do you need to "get values from the ldb" |
| 00:53.31 | jnwhiteh | the event fires, you update your display, your'e done. |
| 00:53.37 | jnwhiteh | starlon: nice! |
| 00:53.41 | BlackNet | ok take for example BugSack, there's no bugs so technically the value shoudl be '0' |
| 00:53.42 | starlon | :) |
| 00:54.04 | BlackNet | and the event has not fired for it to update it's display |
| 00:54.20 | jnwhiteh | so you're talking about when your display opens up the first time? |
| 00:54.22 | jnwhiteh | or what? |
| 00:54.40 | BlackNet | display opens the first time |
| 00:54.55 | BlackNet | right now im doing this self.text:SetText(pluginObjects[v] or v) |
| 00:55.14 | BlackNet | and v is the actual name of the ldb |
| 00:55.25 | BlackNet | i.e. 'BugSack' 'Skada' etc. |
| 00:55.26 | jnwhiteh | look at Panel_UpdateLayout |
| 00:55.41 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 00:55.47 | jnwhiteh | but pluginObjects[v] would be a table |
| 00:55.53 | jnwhiteh | so :SetText() makes no sense there.. |
| 00:56.44 | BlackNet | hmmm .icon |
| 00:57.09 | jnwhiteh | settext on the icon would be silly as well |
| 00:57.18 | jnwhiteh | If you can ask a question I can try to help |
| 00:58.11 | jnwhiteh | but Panel_UpdateLayout is where I pull the values from the ldb object when it is registered with the display |
| 00:58.12 | BlackNet | so with this code you posted when your up from the event handler what does it show the values to be |
| 00:58.41 | jnwhiteh | following an event handler, it always shows the values that were just set |
| 00:58.48 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure why anything would do anything else =) |
| 00:59.10 | BlackNet | that's what im doing here as well |
| 00:59.16 | jnwhiteh | so what is the problem |
| 00:59.17 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 00:59.32 | jnwhiteh | if the code you posted is accurate, you're doing it wrong.. and setting text with a table parameter instead of a string |
| 00:59.37 | BlackNet | when you enter the world on a clean start what does the values show when the data value is nil? |
| 00:59.51 | jnwhiteh | if .text is nil, I have it set to "waiting..." |
| 00:59.58 | jnwhiteh | but pretty much no plugin should have that |
| 01:01.19 | jnwhiteh | what it shows is entirely up to you |
| 01:01.21 | BlackNet | ok that's the answer then 'waiting....' |
| 01:01.31 | jnwhiteh | the answer is "you show whatever you want" |
| 01:01.38 | jnwhiteh | it has nothing to do with ldb, really =) |
| 01:02.41 | BlackNet | kinda yea |
| 01:03.04 | BlackNet | was looking to see if there was something to force the ldb broker to update the data or refresh it |
| 01:03.23 | jnwhiteh | no, its view only |
| 01:03.25 | Mikk | and please don't mix up "label" vs "text" |
| 01:03.27 | jnwhiteh | the data is either ther eor it isn't. |
| 01:03.28 | Mikk | they are two different things |
| 01:03.34 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: truth |
| 01:03.48 | Mikk | you don't want to show an addon's name in the "text" field |
| 01:04.01 | bluspacecow | @jnwhiteh Hai2u |
| 01:04.30 | Mikk | well-behaved addons set label="MyAddonName" .. and may or may not set text depending on if they have something to show or not |
| 01:04.33 | jnwhiteh | Mikk: sadly, almost no one includes label that I can see |
| 01:04.43 | Mikk | i lart people that do it wrong |
| 01:04.55 | jnwhiteh | my TomTom feeds don't set label, I thin |
| 01:04.59 | BlackNet | Mikk that's the or v part of what i posted |
| 01:05.13 | Mikk | yeah and you're not supposed to do that really |
| 01:05.50 | BlackNet | the only nil case would be after PLAYER_ALIVE is finished |
| 01:05.54 | Mikk | Like DropTheCheapestThing purposefully sets its text to nothing at all when there is nothing to drop |
| 01:06.03 | jnwhiteh | BlackNet: even that's a false assumption |
| 01:06.16 | jnwhiteh | stop making them =) |
| 01:06.21 | jnwhiteh | you're a display, the rules you follow are very simple |
| 01:06.24 | BlackNet | ok so when else woudl it be nil? |
| 01:06.25 | Mikk | if you want to safeguard against nil, just use: or "" |
| 01:06.28 | jnwhiteh | it doesn't matter |
| 01:06.39 | BlackNet | gimme a case where it would be nil |
| 01:06.48 | jnwhiteh | IT DOESN"T MATTER |
| 01:06.49 | jnwhiteh | you are a display |
| 01:06.55 | jnwhiteh | the data feed can do WHATEVER it wants |
| 01:07.01 | jnwhiteh | you just make sure its displayed properly |
| 01:07.11 | jnwhiteh | that is a trivial thing to do |
| 01:07.25 | jnwhiteh | you're breaking the separation of concerns that LDB is built around =) |
| 01:07.53 | Mikk | LDB purposefully separates responsibilities |
| 01:07.56 | jnwhiteh | Write a function that can take an LDB data object and display it REGARDLESS of what state it is in. Then write your event handler. You're done! |
| 01:07.57 | Mikk | because FuBar didn't |
| 01:09.31 | BlackNet | i was told that most ldb agents listed the brokers name on startup since there is no data to properly display |
| 01:09.55 | Mikk | then display "" imo |
| 01:10.15 | jnwhiteh | well, if you have labels, the problem is solved |
| 01:10.21 | jnwhiteh | if you don't, you need to make a decision |
| 01:10.23 | BlackNet | dont have labels |
| 01:11.08 | jnwhiteh | then you have to make a decision about what to do |
| 01:11.21 | jnwhiteh | if there is an icon, you can "" |
| 01:11.58 | jnwhiteh | if you ahve no label and no icon, you could display nothing and have a 'setup' omde where they can re-order things |
| 01:12.37 | jnwhiteh | this is the glory of the system, flexibility =) |
| 01:15.29 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
| 01:16.51 | BlackNet | this ldb setup has been nowhere near normal by any means |
| 01:28.30 | BlackNet | oh |
| 01:28.36 | BlackNet | i know what the other one was |
| 01:29.01 | BlackNet | the stock blizz function is causing some nasty taints and i was looking for a replacement |
| 01:29.27 | BlackNet | UIFrameFadeOut |
| 01:29.56 | Mr_Rabies | giggles |
| 01:30.11 | Mr_Rabies | i could never write addons, i'd be laughing too often at juvenile things |
| 01:39.36 | olafski | wasn't there a zone drop pet in feralas? :s |
| 01:40.17 | BlackNet | yes |
| 01:40.22 | BlackNet | horde mostly |
| 01:40.38 | BlackNet | alliance coudl farm the fuck out of the place to get the pet but i think they took that out |
| 01:40.55 | BlackNet | sprite darter or soemthing liek that |
| 01:41.53 | BlackNet | http://www.wowhead.com/item=11474 |
| 01:41.54 | BlackNet | that |
| 01:41.58 | olafski | oh that's what it was called |
| 01:42.04 | olafski | for some reason I was looking for "faerie dragon" |
| 01:42.11 | BlackNet | same thing |
| 01:42.32 | olafski | yeah but you won't find it on wowhead with that name :) thanks |
| 01:42.41 | alestane | There used to be a quest for the sprite darter pet, but it's gone. |
| 01:42.44 | olafski | I need 2 more pets to get 150 =( |
| 01:44.02 | BlackNet | Since the pet is a zone drop, there is a 1/10,000 chance of dropping off any mob in Feralas. |
| 01:44.16 | olafski | good enough |
| 01:44.18 | Thunder_Child | that was a surprisingly boring quest to get it |
| 01:44.27 | BlackNet | horde side it was a quest |
| 01:44.36 | olafski | warcraftpets.com says 1 in 1000 btw |
| 01:44.38 | olafski | and it was alliance |
| 01:44.48 | BlackNet | alliance you had to kill them to get it. |
| 01:44.52 | BlackNet | was a very high drop rate tho |
| 01:44.52 | Mr_Rabies | i got it back in vanilla :3 |
| 01:45.08 | Thunder_Child | eh, i still call it a quest |
| 01:45.17 | Thunder_Child | it was boring either way |
| 01:45.20 | BlackNet | wowhead quote 0-=> |
| 01:45.21 | BlackNet | After killing 33, 234 Grimtotem Marauders, about 1k Sprite Darter, and probably another 2k Ogres and Woodpaw... I finally got the pet. |
| 01:45.21 | olafski | alliance had a quest and horde couldn't get it before cataclysm oO |
| 01:45.23 | BlackNet | poor bastard |
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| 02:03.49 | olafski | I have a feeling getting mr pinchy will be less work =) |
| 02:04.01 | BlackNet | probably |
| 02:04.48 | BlackNet | now that's interesting you mentioned pinchy, many people have told me uber low drop rates has encouraged the use of fishing bots for that one. |
| 02:05.42 | karl_w_w | mr pinch was easy :P |
| 02:06.19 | BlackNet | last time i looked it took something like 1,000 cast in that one spot |
| 02:06.37 | olafski | ymmv etc :P I don't know how many casts I've done so far |
| 02:06.40 | olafski | can't be many, like 200 tops |
| 02:07.20 | BlackNet | oh wait |
| 02:07.26 | BlackNet | im talking about the one in ironforge. |
| 02:07.40 | olafski | :] |
| 02:07.49 | olafski | according to warcraftpets, mr pinchy is 1 in 500 |
| 02:08.03 | olafski | well, for the item.. then 1 in 5 wishes gives a pet |
| 02:09.16 | BlackNet | i just need 2 pets for the ach |
| 02:09.35 | BlackNet | 123/125 |
| 02:09.56 | olafski | and then 25 more for the next :P |
| 02:10.16 | olafski | or rather 24, since you get one for the achievement |
| 02:11.03 | BlackNet | about the only ones left is childrens week and the trading card ones |
| 02:12.09 | olafski | that sounds unlikely considering I have 25 more.. I do have one pet store pet though, no other money ones |
| 02:12.53 | BlackNet | shows 76 left. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/arygos/Blacknet/companion#status=not-collected&page=1 |
| 02:13.53 | olafski | oh wow, the armory shows this stuff too oO |
| 02:13.58 | BlackNet | 4 store, 10 trading card, 6 promo, |
| 02:14.04 | BlackNet | same with mounts |
| 02:14.28 | olafski | that means 56 remaining :P |
| 02:14.41 | BlackNet | i have been asking since the armory was updated why the pet/mount sites are not harvesting the list from the armory stead of having us key all that crap in |
| 02:15.06 | BlackNet | 11 drop, 13 vendor |
| 02:15.07 | olafski | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/dragonblight/Deathski/companion#status=not-collected :-] |
| 02:15.11 | BlackNet | oh darkmoon pets mostly |
| 02:15.36 | BlackNet | 15 events |
| 02:16.13 | BlackNet | my sister has tried/trying? to get the fox kit. |
| 02:16.24 | BlackNet | she says it doesnt exist :) |
| 02:16.34 | olafski | pretty sure it does :P but it's quite rare |
| 02:17.57 | BlackNet | looks like you have 17 from the blizz store and trading card game |
| 02:18.02 | BlackNet | well on the not have list |
| 02:18.20 | BlackNet | and 6 promo, may as well toss those in as well |
| 02:18.47 | BlackNet | so 26 left to get, that's impressive |
| 02:19.10 | olafski | hmm |
| 02:19.17 | olafski | according to warcraftpets I'm "looking for" 56 :s |
| 02:19.24 | olafski | guess I haven't filtered properly |
| 02:20.06 | BlackNet | or not fully updated |
| 02:20.24 | BlackNet | having that mount mounts/pets it gets tedious to make sure all are included |
| 02:20.48 | olafski | no, updating goes automatically |
| 02:20.59 | olafski | but from the ones I don't have, I have filtered a few |
| 02:21.10 | olafski | I'll go through the list again and see if I can remove the ones that cost money |
| 02:21.25 | BlackNet | the armory you can filter the not-haves |
| 02:21.40 | pompy | @project collectinator |
| 02:21.46 | pompy | http://www.wowace.com/addons/collectinator/ |
| 02:21.49 | pompy | there ya go |
| 02:22.13 | BlackNet | yea i use that ingame. |
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| 02:23.10 | olafski | I don't ,-) about 1/3 through the list now |
| 02:23.43 | BlackNet | i still say they should pull that from the armory. |
| 02:24.10 | pompy | who should? |
| 02:24.36 | BlackNet | sites like http://www.warcraftpets.com/ |
| 02:25.35 | olafski | they have an addon/macro to put it in though, you don't _have_ to key it all in |
| 02:26.29 | pompy | collectinator has that output as well |
| 02:27.12 | pompy | http://pastebin.com/bbYPTsnq |
| 02:27.39 | olafski | nice, I found one from a quest that I don't have yet :P guess it was removed when I faction transferred, cause I'm pretty sure I did have it before |
| 02:29.56 | olafski | blah, after filtering I only have 22 to go :P |
| 02:33.03 | BlackNet | why would you want to dock the player castbar to action bar 1? |
| 02:33.32 | Arrowmaster | oh why did that spicy bean and cheese dip have to be so good, i just finished off all the leftovers of it and now im going to be paying for it for the rest of the night at least |
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| 04:58.53 | karl_w_w | somebody name my rogue |
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| 04:59.38 | mckenziemc1 | Rogue |
| 04:59.43 | Thunder_Child | Rogue |
| 05:00.11 | Thunder_Child | though roguerogue is not very amusing |
| 05:00.27 | Thunder_Child | stealthmonkey? |
| 05:00.30 | mckenziemc1 | yay for lag : / |
| 05:01.19 | Thunder_Child | mckenziemc1: what lag? |
| 05:02.08 | mckenziemc1 | i thought you already had a worgen rogue though |
| 05:02.37 | karl_w_w | I went with Pokeintheeye |
| 05:02.49 | karl_w_w | im only levelling it ill never use it seriously :P |
| 05:03.08 | bluspacecow | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268438_233064096724643_100000631625273_812866_5266879_n.jpg |
| 05:03.33 | mckenziemc1 | idk which of us said Rogue first because i've got webpages loading, but i hadn't received yours yet when i said it |
| 05:03.55 | karl_w_w | i log in and already have 5 pets and a mount |
| 05:04.06 | mckenziemc1 | hehe |
| 05:04.15 | Thunder_Child | i was second mckenziemc1 |
| 05:04.20 | karl_w_w | shame i have to set up all my damn addons :( |
| 05:04.45 | karl_w_w | lets try a wtf folder copy |
| 05:06.52 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: you might need to sed all of your char names as well though depending on the addon |
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| 05:37.14 | airtonix | Adys: http://sozi.baierouge.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=en:welcome |
| 05:40.06 | starlon | Open Source code and algorithms are bits of Old Knowledge. Proprietary code ends up part of Old Knowledge eventually. A college is an institution of Free Speech, and all that information they study is Old Knowledge. Open Source code and algorithms are food for interested students in their perusal of Free Speech content to accomplish programming projects. ;) Open Source Software is Free Speech and aged higher than today's proprietary code. No wonder O |
| 05:50.27 | airtonix | starlon: umadbro? |
| 05:51.15 | airtonix | and i disagree with you that colleges are places of free speech |
| 05:51.57 | airtonix | i tried that at my last one, lecturer told me to keep my opinions to myself, the only disussions that were allowed to take place were those that resulted in profit. |
| 05:52.25 | airtonix | (since this college was subsidised/funded by local corporations) |
| 05:53.22 | mckenziemc1 | hey airtonix |
| 05:53.27 | mckenziemc1 | i disagree with your existence |
| 05:53.43 | airtonix | that's ok, it's your right |
| 05:53.58 | mckenziemc1 | also, this container of antimatter would like to have a word withy ou |
| 05:54.01 | mckenziemc1 | with you* |
| 05:54.04 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 05:54.14 | airtonix | tell it to make an appointment |
| 05:54.47 | mckenziemc1 | i could open it for you |
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| 06:17.32 | starlon | airtonix: It likely depends on the professors. The whole point of critical thinking is you'll be speaking your mind when answering questions. |
| 06:19.18 | starlon | But I read something by Joan Wallach Scott where she said something about a college being a fortress for free speech. |
| 06:20.09 | starlon | It was in a text book in english. |
| 06:20.16 | starlon | bleh hehe |
| 06:20.52 | starlon | and "fortress" could be paraphrased. dunno. I may have made it up. |
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| 06:29.31 | starlon | Then again, it's not really free speech to write a music history essay for a computer science project and wondering why you got an F. |
| 06:31.32 | mckenziemc1 | and got nagged about inconsistent verb tense |
| 06:31.41 | starlon | crap |
| 06:32.19 | A-KO^ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtxZ0t8P3Gw < winner :D |
| 06:33.35 | starlon | lol |
| 06:33.52 | A-KO^ | we're having fun |
| 06:33.52 | A-KO^ | lol |
| 06:35.27 | starlon | I wonder if we could start a Hybrid Party to replace Independents. :D Instead of voting conservative every year, they instead vote for the smartest academics in America. :D No? Cast your own nominees. Everyone's welcome to run, and you don't even have to know it to get nominated. |
| 06:35.53 | starlon | Flood the campuses interviewing professors. |
| 06:36.42 | starlon | I don't know how donations would work. o.O |
| 06:37.06 | mckenziemc1 | i'm sure you can find somebody smart enough to figure it out |
| 06:40.24 | starlon | http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nqxz7/i_wonder_if_we_could_start_a_hybrid_party_to/ |
| 06:40.27 | starlon | :D |
| 06:41.42 | starlon | We could have ended up with Malcolm X as President. :) lol Someone would have offered to run a campaign. |
| 06:43.06 | starlon | Corporatism's too strong though. |
| 06:47.17 | starlon | "Don't be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn't do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn't know what you know today." - Malcolm X |
| 06:47.32 | starlon | That's a tenet of Slow Knowledge. |
| 06:47.44 | starlon | Excellent mind. |
| 06:49.31 | starlon | Can you see Gingrich coming up against a real Historian and not just another politician? |
| 06:50.36 | starlon | Meanwhile the man's setting up to showcase Ron Paul as a looney nutjob storm truther. |
| 06:50.59 | starlon | He shows up on Alex Jones' channel. |
| 06:51.37 | starlon | http://www.collegehumor.com/video/5601770/stormtroopers-911 |
| 07:00.07 | starlon | " Also, because highly educated people are more likely to vote for liberal candidates, anti-intellectualism has been engrained as a counter-force in right wing politics." |
| 07:00.59 | starlon | What if you give this thing to the Occupy movement? They're not doing anything else but block bridges right now. Occupy Campuses world wide. |
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| 07:06.58 | mckenziemc1 | ported into a group on the last boss of WC and got stuck on a wall O.o |
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| 07:13.53 | airtonix | A-KO^: news at 11, high speed mass breaks stationary target. |
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| 07:22.55 | starlon | o.O |
| 07:23.06 | mckenziemc | O.o |
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| 08:53.38 | Fisker | yawns |
| 08:57.26 | mckenziemc | dies. |
| 08:58.05 | starlon | tilts. |
| 09:07.47 | Mihau | "NO TILT" *Pinball machine eats quarter.* |
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| 09:18.22 | karl_w_w | i wish /lolnicerealm existed |
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| 09:38.14 | karl_w_w | are buffs still dispelled in the order they were applied? |
| 09:41.48 | airtonix | no |
| 09:42.24 | karl_w_w | sad |
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| 10:11.24 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 10:11.24 | bluspacecow | ust found an epic belt in D3 out in the weeping hollows |
| 10:11.39 | bluspacecow | usually only find that stuff after the last boss fight |
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| 10:24.41 | Fisker | epic belt? |
| 10:24.48 | Fisker | sauce or no |
| 10:25.41 | bluspacecow | yellow belt |
| 10:27.59 | Fisker | that's not epic |
| 10:28.01 | Fisker | dickbag |
| 10:28.02 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:28.23 | bluspacecow | it is in D3 pookins |
| 10:29.01 | bluspacecow | pudding lips |
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| 13:24.56 | bluspacecow | ;( |
| 13:25.11 | bluspacecow | why textutil strip spaces when converting html to text ? |
| 13:26.59 | karl_w_w | cos spaces dont mean much in html? |
| 13:27.08 | bluspacecow | woops |
| 13:27.16 | bluspacecow | i mean returns |
| 13:27.39 | karl_w_w | because it's stoopid |
| 13:27.56 | bluspacecow | seriously |
| 13:28.13 | bluspacecow | by input files all have nicely set out paragraphs seperated by a new line |
| 13:28.24 | bluspacecow | put throught textutil and poof all that lovely white space gone |
| 13:36.03 | karl_w_w | bluspacecow replace all the returns with some dummy character |
| 13:36.14 | bluspacecow | hmm maybe |
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| 16:01.59 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 16:02.01 | Stanzilla | I'm Batman |
| 16:15.23 | Mikk | Holy Fiskerzillas! |
| 16:19.12 | airtonix | Fisker: umad? |
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| 16:23.49 | pompy | http://www.adressa.no/multimedia/dynamic/01247/drage1_16_9_1247607c.jpg wow |
| 16:23.57 | airtonix | you wouldn't listen to a black ball |
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| 17:35.21 | pompy | http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/719446/xbox-avatars-lose-right-to-bear-new-arms-on-january-1 |
| 17:35.25 | pompy | WHAT |
| 17:35.34 | pompy | and if that means the portal gun, ima be mad! lol |
| 17:35.48 | pompy | heh, new arms |
| 17:37.10 | cbreak | they'll be armless. |
| 17:37.22 | cbreak | or just have old arms |
| 17:51.53 | Arrowmaster | pompy: do you use an rss reader? |
| 17:52.46 | Arrowmaster | if so add http://kotaku.com/vip.xml to it so you stop posting old news |
| 17:55.15 | cbreak | http://100yearsagotoday.blogspot.com/ |
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| 18:01.35 | Mr_Rabies | i thought that was already the case, pompy |
| 18:02.07 | airtonix | pompy: umad? |
| 18:02.17 | pompy | Arrowmaster: mk |
| 18:02.23 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: all windows and mac users don't know what the future is |
| 18:02.36 | airtonix | rss what's that? |
| 18:02.52 | Arrowmaster | anybody else that has kotaku on rss can steal that link too |
| 18:03.06 | airtonix | <linux user tells them>, "oh then it must be some nerdy complicated thing that you need five phd's to understand" |
| 18:03.40 | airtonix | they've only just understood how to click hyperlinks and press the power button |
| 18:04.07 | pompy | they posted that 4.5 hrs ago, so i guess they were late |
| 18:04.13 | airtonix | nou |
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| 18:25.09 | BlackNet | hmmm so you cant setup click through and have onenter/onleave handlers at the same time |
| 18:29.32 | jnwhiteh | correct |
| 18:29.34 | jnwhiteh | that should be obvious |
| 18:29.41 | jnwhiteh | either a button receives mouse events or it doesn't =) |
| 18:31.39 | BlackNet | doing a invisible frame to do some handlers during combat |
| 18:31.57 | BlackNet | OnUpdate should still fire |
| 18:32.20 | jnwhiteh | OnUpdate isn't a mouse event, so yes. |
| 18:33.15 | BlackNet | am toggling some things like the stupid buffframe |
| 18:33.53 | BlackNet | but mouse over the panel will show it |
| 18:33.54 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 18:34.02 | jnwhiteh | congrats =) |
| 18:35.05 | jnwhiteh | amro: had a VERY bad string today |
| 18:35.15 | jnwhiteh | only lost like 25 rating, but was shtty |
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| 18:47.20 | Cairenn | Happy Boxing Day all :p |
| 18:50.06 | airtonix | of course |
| 18:50.29 | airtonix | i'd be a happy pugilist |
| 18:50.44 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:51.05 | airtonix | when i was a kid, i always thought it meant that |
| 18:51.58 | Thunder_Child | what do you mean 'when'? |
| 18:55.47 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: today would be the day to pick up sonic generations |
| 18:59.26 | airtonix | Thunder_Child: oh |
| 18:59.40 | airtonix | that's right, i'll act old when i die |
| 18:59.57 | airtonix | plenty of time then |
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| 19:03.03 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: its that good, even to a sonic noob like me? |
| 19:04.01 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i have no idea, it's just on your wishlist |
| 19:04.03 | Thunder_Child | and on sale |
| 19:04.19 | Kraps | haha |
| 19:04.20 | BlackNet | hmmm someone at bank of america is asking me questions about my howdah |
| 19:04.56 | airtonix | what is a howdah |
| 19:05.01 | A-KO | http://www.bestbuy.com/site/AudioQuest+-+Diamond+3.3'+High-Speed+HDMI+Cable+-+Dark+Gray/Black/2383276.p;jsessionid=310CCC6FDFA4F4B48027114FF363F3FC.bbolsp-app04-32?id=1218324437192&skuId=2383276#BVRRWidgetID |
| 19:05.34 | BlackNet | ouch |
| 19:05.42 | BlackNet | $1k for some wire? |
| 19:06.44 | kullervo | it's a commonly recognized psychological effect that people will think the product is better if they paid more for it |
| 19:07.00 | Thunder_Child | and most of the comments/revies seem to be trolls |
| 19:07.09 | A-KO | why wouldn't they be? |
| 19:07.11 | Thunder_Child | reviews* |
| 19:07.16 | A-KO | it's a $1,000 hdmi cable |
| 19:07.35 | BlackNet | does it include a reach around? |
| 19:07.38 | kullervo | heh, silver plated connectors |
| 19:07.44 | kullervo | why not gold, it's technically superior |
| 19:07.52 | A-KO | gold is so cliche! |
| 19:08.08 | BlackNet | silver is excellent for connectors |
| 19:08.09 | Thunder_Child | gold would be far too ostentatious |
| 19:08.14 | airtonix | kullervo: price-point placebo |
| 19:08.55 | airtonix | kullervo: we used to sell a product at $290, as soon as we raised the price to $750, people were falling over themselves to buy it. |
| 19:09.15 | airtonix | kullervo: mostly corporate idiots |
| 19:09.26 | BlackNet | same true in knife making. |
| 19:09.49 | BlackNet | you list one for $250 no one looks at it, you list it for $2,000 and you have many buyers |
| 19:09.59 | airtonix | art wankers |
| 19:11.15 | BlackNet | and it's complete opposite in the pen making world |
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| 20:14.08 | Kraps | should i craft my coal |
| 20:14.43 | Kraps | i dont think my coupons can get any worse |
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| 20:28.29 | Takaan | Hey all, have a quick question. Trying to make a macro that will Set the autolootdefault. Here it is: /script if (GetCVar("autoLootDefault"==1)) then SetCVar("autoLootDefault", 0); end |
| 20:28.40 | Takaan | it isnt working and I am trying to figure out why |
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| 20:34.08 | Thunder_Child | ah, i see wait time for an answer is now 4 min |
| 20:35.01 | Cairenn | During the holidays, when obviously everyone is glued to their monitors |
| 20:35.44 | Thunder_Child | well we are, whats that say about us :p |
| 20:35.50 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:36.05 | Cairenn | It says that we're taking a break before the next round ;) |
| 20:36.43 | Cairenn | For example, I'm around for approximately another hour and a half, then I'm gone for the evening |
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| 20:38.39 | Maldivia | perhaps he realised his mistake, and left in shame? |
| 20:38.49 | Arrowmaster | i may be glued to my monitor right now but my main monitor is switched to the xbox, im not glancing at the 2nd monitor with irc on it often |
| 20:38.55 | cbreak | Kraps: have you seen the first prize? |
| 20:38.58 | Thunder_Child | people have shame on the internet? |
| 20:39.44 | cbreak | takaan: you don't GetCVar the correct thing |
| 20:39.54 | Kraps | cbreak: what? |
| 20:40.16 | cbreak | Kraps: from what I read, the number of coal increases the chance to win the first prize |
| 20:40.23 | Kraps | i know |
| 20:40.26 | cbreak | (or an other prize) |
| 20:41.01 | Kraps | what what are the chances though? |
| 20:41.12 | cbreak | well... |
| 20:41.16 | cbreak | tiny. |
| 20:41.52 | Kraps | and if i get the valve complete pack i might just kill myselsf |
| 20:42.36 | cbreak | you hate valve that much? :) |
| 20:42.44 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/human.jpeg |
| 20:43.04 | Kraps | no, their games just dont appeal to me |
| 20:43.17 | Kraps | and i have a few of them already |
| 20:43.36 | cbreak | that's... a good combination. |
| 20:43.44 | Kraps | :/ |
| 20:45.21 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah somebody do a trade on steam with me |
| 20:45.30 | Kraps | for what |
| 20:45.36 | Arrowmaster | anything |
| 20:45.45 | Arrowmaster | just so i can get that one objective |
| 20:45.58 | Kraps | whats your steam name |
| 20:46.26 | Arrowmaster | i have a 25% off any square enix/edios if somebody wants to trade for that |
| 20:46.32 | Arrowmaster | steam name is Arrowmaster |
| 20:46.54 | cbreak | square enix/eidos have Deus Ex! |
| 20:46.59 | cbreak | (which I already have...) |
| 20:47.37 | Arrowmaster | i already bought the square/eidos complete pack a few years ago, so the only thing i dont have from them would be DEHR but i have that for xbox |
| 20:51.22 | Kraps | steam search sucks |
| 20:51.34 | Kraps | community search |
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| 20:54.49 | Arrowmaster | and i got more coal |
| 20:56.27 | Nechckn | Gah!! Our gen 1 xbox 360 is having video issues... |
| 20:56.30 | Nechckn | sniffles |
| 20:56.49 | Arrowmaster | it made it 5 years, grats |
| 20:56.54 | Arrowmaster | mine only lasted 3 |
| 20:57.03 | Arrowmaster | till a system update borked it |
| 20:57.07 | Nechckn | Oh, I know... the poor thing. I am just sad. |
| 20:57.33 | Nechckn | Was so happy when it has never red-ringed or caught on fire. =) |
| 20:57.44 | Arrowmaster | its strange to think that the replacement one i got is 2 years old now |
| 20:57.55 | Nechckn | Maybe it is just the connection via the receiver, though or something. |
| 20:58.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah i had a release day pro console, red ringed from a system update so i got the mw2 bundle one since they wanted $100 to fix it |
| 20:58.50 | Nechckn | Ha, yeah, fixing is usually so not an option. |
| 20:59.02 | cbreak | so... they kill your hardware with an update and don't even pay for it? |
| 20:59.07 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 21:00.17 | Nechckn | Well, more likely it decided to go gently into that good night at the same time - perhaps... |
| 21:01.37 | Arrowmaster | im not sure exactly which it was but there was reports of other first gens dying from the same update |
| 21:02.09 | Nechckn | Honestly, with all the issues folks had with them, I was/am amazed he has lasted this long. Maybe some unseating/reseating and cleaning will help him. The poor thing. |
| 21:02.44 | cbreak | immerse it in deionized water :) |
| 21:07.05 | Nechckn | And here I was all psyched with my video setups now that I received a dell u3011 for Christmas. I guess maybe the 360 is jealous or something. |
| 21:12.43 | airtonix | lol dell |
| 21:14.39 | Nechckn | Have had really good luck with them, actually. |
| 21:17.14 | airtonix | i just got arrested for attempted lollygaggin |
| 21:17.24 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn: any particular reason to get that? |
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| 21:18.05 | Nechckn | It was a gift, if that is a reason. hehehe |
| 21:19.00 | Nechckn | the gtx570 works nicely with it, so I am not complaining - plus lots of tasty real estate. |
| 21:20.35 | Thunder_Child | ah, i was wondering if you needed the colors for a particular reason |
| 21:21.05 | Nechckn | I do quite a bit of work with imaging and the like, so it will come in handy. |
| 21:21.49 | Thunder_Child | i would have recomended the dreamcolor, but it was a gift, so point mooted |
| 21:22.19 | Nechckn | Now I need a different stand though - had a dual monitor stand before, with 2,but this thing sort of laughed at it. |
| 21:28.40 | Nechckn | That was an option, but this one could arrive in time, etc, Thunder_Child. |
| 21:29.08 | Nechckn | I did not bug 'em too much, since, hey, it is pretty slick and no complaints. =D |
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| 21:38.27 | Kraps | http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/nraym/steam_holiday_sale_2011_day_8/c3bb8z7 |
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| 21:46.19 | airtonix | http://gifs.gifbin.com/1234525508_ben_stiller_-_do_it.gif |
| 21:46.23 | airtonix | umad Kraps? |
| 21:47.08 | Kraps | not particularly |
| 21:47.13 | Kraps | umad? |
| 21:47.15 | airtonix | Nechckn: is your monitor NINETY FIVE PERCENT GAMUT!!!! |
| 21:47.25 | airtonix | :> |
| 21:48.05 | airtonix | Kraps: yeah i hate ben stiller |
| 21:48.17 | airtonix | so i know how you feel |
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| 21:51.04 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
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| 21:58.41 | Nechckn | airtonix sRGB and AdobeRGB average Delta-E (dE) < 5, so no complaints. |
| 21:58.58 | airtonix | sounds crap |
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| 22:03.10 | Thunder_Child | my work has an entire department that calibrates monitors |
| 22:06.09 | Nechckn | Yeah, this is mostly for satellite imagery analysis, something decent helps. Also a step up for other things, too. So good all 'round. |
| 22:07.27 | Nechckn | Although there are better at one of the offices, this is just dandy for here. |
| 22:09.50 | Kraps | wow http://i.imgur.com/E9f1H.jpg |
| 22:10.19 | Kraps | channels wrong |
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| 22:10.48 | airtonix | bronyalert |
| 22:11.29 | Kraps | what where?! |
| 22:12.19 | Kraps | umad airtonix? |
| 22:12.48 | airtonix | i'm kinda tired |
| 22:15.12 | Cairenn | Later all, out for the evening |
| 22:17.35 | amro | jnwhiteh: :( |
| 22:17.38 | amro | I'm waiting for my keyboard to ship before playing |
| 22:17.41 | amro | this thing is horrible |
| 22:18.51 | jnwhiteh | a keyboard is preventing you? |
| 22:18.53 | jnwhiteh | wow! |
| 22:18.56 | jnwhiteh | are you in the US for good now? |
| 22:19.03 | amro | yeah |
| 22:19.10 | amro | and this keyboard is REALLY bad |
| 22:19.21 | amro | the keys wedge if you hit em with too much lateral force and don't go in |
| 22:19.26 | jnwhiteh | oh my |
| 22:19.52 | amro | I'm also not used to the key positions, I keep hitting space when I mean to hit alt and it moves the camera to the last ping |
| 22:20.20 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 22:20.22 | jnwhiteh | space does that? |
| 22:20.23 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 22:21.00 | amro | yeah, and it would be useful if idiots didn't spam pings randomly across the map |
| 22:21.30 | kullervo | amro: why didn't you pack your keyboard to begin with? D: |
| 22:23.20 | amro | I ordered a new one |
| 22:23.39 | amro | I was on a laptop previously |
| 22:24.32 | jnwhiteh | i kind of like not having all heroes available ot me |
| 22:24.42 | jnwhiteh | too many choices =) |
| 22:25.34 | jnwhiteh | i'm down to 1568 |
| 22:25.36 | jnwhiteh | after today |
| 22:28.56 | amro | I used to play single draft just for that |
| 22:29.10 | amro | now I usually either pick an all around hero or adapt based on other picks |
| 22:33.06 | Mr_Rabies | Lain noooooo |
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| 22:42.47 | bluspacecow | [nsfw] http://imgur.com/C05V4 |
| 22:42.49 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 22:45.35 | karl_w_w | fail |
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| 23:12.16 | zenzelezz | I was disappointed to see that the WoW subscription cancellation only allowed for 255 characters of free text... how are you supposed to pose a sufficient rant in such little space |
| 23:12.37 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 23:23.39 | BlackNet | simple |
| 23:23.43 | BlackNet | you are not |
| 23:24.15 | zenzelezz | when they ask for "more info", they should be prepared to get it |
| 23:27.42 | BlackNet | speaking of which, those survey's you get from gm's and stuff. :) have those ever been used? |
| 23:28.24 | zenzelezz | no idea; I'd hope they at least are used for some metrics |
| 23:28.35 | zenzelezz | I've actually never dealt with a GM in WoW |
| 23:29.07 | zenzelezz | the cancellation form was reasonably well laid out for making out general trends/reasons |
| 23:29.13 | BlackNet | your fortunate |
| 23:31.35 | mckenziemc | you're using apostrophes in the wrong places |
| 23:31.44 | mckenziemc | ! |
| 23:31.56 | BlackNet | it's mavic beacon |
| 23:41.40 | bluspacecow | http://fabiensanglard.net/anotherWorld_code_review/index.php |
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| 23:48.36 | A-KO | http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/20/news/la-heb-neti-pot-amoeba-20111220 < oh god |
