| 00:24.08 | foxlit | dammit, dungeon finder. |
| 00:24.20 | foxlit | Keeps taunting me with Call to Arms and then offering groups without the CtA bonus |
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| 00:29.32 | amro | anyone remember the call to arms addon? |
| 00:31.22 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not familiar with it, but it sounds interesting, what does it do? |
| 00:31.32 | Mr_Rabies | alert you when the CTA is something you set? |
| 00:32.40 | amro | it's from the 1.x days, it was basically a group finder addon |
| 00:32.47 | amro | way before meeting stones (did those ever work?) |
| 00:33.47 | Xyphoid | what release was it when you talked to innkeepers to get put in dungeon groups |
| 00:34.31 | kd3 | looks up innkeeper on wowpedia... |
| 00:34.52 | kd3 | 1.5 |
| 00:35.00 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_1.5#User_Interface |
| 00:35.01 | amro | that was when they added meeting stones |
| 00:35.13 | amro | nobody used the innkeepers though |
| 00:36.17 | amro | reading old patch notes is fun |
| 00:45.44 | mckenziemc | anyone know whether the LFR system is region wide (like battlegrounds) or datacenter-specific (like dungeons) ? |
| 00:51.36 | bluspacecow | no clue |
| 00:51.44 | bluspacecow | you should find out ! for science! |
| 00:52.30 | bluspacecow | thats a point |
| 00:52.32 | mckenziemc | can't |
| 00:52.44 | mckenziemc | accounts are inactive, + dialup |
| 00:52.53 | bluspacecow | with battle tags and the 4 digits how easy would it be to add a fifth digit ? |
| 00:53.17 | bluspacecow | so for example they had 10,000 people all register something common like Arthas or HolyCow |
| 00:53.19 | Arrowmaster | the number probably isnt limited to just 4 digits |
| 00:53.34 | bluspacecow | it's just displaying 4 digits atm ? gotcha |
| 00:53.34 | Arrowmaster | like in SC2 they started out at 3 but could go up to 4 |
| 01:04.19 | Mr_Rabies | Shefki, if you're here, do you still maintain chinchilla minimap? |
| 01:05.01 | Mr_Rabies | or possibly one of the other two people listed on the curse page for it, if they're here under another name |
| 01:05.13 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow: you get digits no matter what your name is. |
| 01:05.33 | Thunder_Child | and it has to be more than 4 because they have more than 10K people using battle.net |
| 01:05.48 | bluspacecow | good point TC |
| 01:11.29 | bluspacecow | because they can forsee that possibly everyone of their 13 million players would then all decide to be Arthas# |
| 01:19.08 | vithos | or Michael |
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| 01:20.19 | Mr_Rabies | mckenziemc, afaik LFD is cross-datacenter now |
| 01:20.33 | mckenziemc | it's not |
| 01:26.13 | Mr_Rabies | is there a searchable blizzard post tracker out there anymroe? |
| 01:26.16 | Mr_Rabies | anymore* |
| 01:27.14 | kd3 | google, site:blue.mmo-champion.com "search terms"? |
| 01:28.41 | Mr_Rabies | i guess that'll work |
| 01:34.17 | Mr_Rabies | bah |
| 01:34.19 | Mr_Rabies | i can't find it |
| 01:34.26 | Mr_Rabies | but i'm pretty sure the LFD rollout went like this |
| 01:34.36 | Mr_Rabies | Battlegroup->Datacenter->All |
| 01:34.55 | mckenziemc | for battlegrounds, but not dungeons |
| 01:35.06 | Mr_Rabies | pretty sure dungeons did the same thing |
| 01:35.11 | mckenziemc | i'll get you a link in a sec |
| 01:35.13 | Mr_Rabies | but i can't find the post about it or battlegrounds |
| 01:37.21 | mckenziemc | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/11/03/blizzard-announces-phase-2-of-region-wide-battlegroup-matching/ |
| 01:37.31 | mckenziemc | i didn't try searching for any followups though |
| 01:38.55 | mckenziemc | but since i started checking yesterday, i've yet to get a party member in 5 mans outside my datacenter, and the connection wow opens when i'm in the dungeon is in the same ip block as the realm |
| 01:39.47 | mckenziemc | joining a bg got people from multiple datacenters and opened a connection in the same block as the login server |
| 01:45.04 | Mr_Rabies | i think it got lost in the mess but i'm fairly certain dungeons are all-realm now |
| 01:45.13 | Dewin | Hmm |
| 01:46.21 | Dewin | I'm trying to figure out the API call to determine if a player is marked as a main tank in the raid UI (not set as tank role, I figured that one out already) but I'm not finding it, any ideas? |
| 01:46.37 | mckenziemc | i'll test the phoenix datacenter soon, since it has the least servers |
| 01:46.58 | Dewin | Mainly because I keep causing wipes by accidentally trying to tank in cat spec and I'm trying to whip together a quick "Hey, you're tanking in the wrong spec" shame icon. |
| 01:48.58 | Mr_Rabies | oh you know what |
| 01:49.04 | Mr_Rabies | it was on the old forums mckenziemc |
| 01:49.07 | foxlit | tank in cat, blame the healers. |
| 01:50.21 | Mr_Rabies | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/123384/region-wide-battlegroup-matching-update |
| 01:50.34 | Mr_Rabies | nearing it i think |
| 01:50.51 | Mr_Rabies | i think there was a followup a little later that grouped the 4 big groups into one with all realms |
| 01:51.20 | mckenziemc | the link i posted quotes that blue post |
| 01:51.56 | mckenziemc | oh nvm, guess you're referring to the extra blue responses |
| 01:53.04 | mckenziemc | i'm in california btw and wow was still connecting to a new york ip for the dungeon |
| 01:53.41 | mckenziemc | one LA connection was open but thats' for the login server |
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| 02:11.34 | Dewin | apparently what I was looking for is GetPartyAssignment |
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| 02:38.52 | Arrowmaster | kd3: http://images.4chan.org/v/src/1324002590292.jpg |
| 02:39.37 | Arrowmaster | kd3: SnI2 KKN2 and C/Z its going to be one wacky season |
| 02:40.13 | kd3 | yup |
| 02:40.49 | kd3 | also yay that kizumonogatari's finally supposed to be airing |
| 02:41.56 | Arrowmaster | whats this madoka thing supposed to be |
| 02:42.46 | kd3 | snark, I'm assuming. the first movie's a recap of the series |
| 02:44.24 | Arrowmaster | not sure what else ill be watching besides those 3 i listed |
| 02:48.29 | Mr_Rabies | there's not like anything on there interesting other than koizumi :/ |
| 02:48.55 | Mr_Rabies | maybe kurosagi corpse delivery but i guess i'll have to see |
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| 02:50.02 | Arrowmaster | well that is the summer lineup, there still time for changes |
| 02:50.36 | Mr_Rabies | oh, summer |
| 02:50.40 | Mr_Rabies | summer usually sucks anyway for anime |
| 02:51.52 | Arrowmaster | will you be watching either SnI2 or KKN2? |
| 02:52.40 | Mr_Rabies | neither look up my alley at all |
| 02:52.47 | Mr_Rabies | i don't do cutesy |
| 02:52.53 | Arrowmaster | they arent cutesy |
| 02:53.15 | Arrowmaster | theyre pure comedy |
| 02:55.44 | Mr_Rabies | too many comedy anime nowadays rely on the same jokes and harem tropes :( |
| 02:56.42 | Arrowmaster | SnI is the anti-harem |
| 02:58.04 | Mr_Rabies | this was one semi-comedy that kinda broke the mold, what with being based on Go Nagai's works instead of hacky visual/light novels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9XL35b9OjI NSFW i guess? |
| 02:58.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah i saw one episode of that |
| 02:59.06 | Mr_Rabies | it's awesome |
| 03:01.53 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE7AzfX6nQ8 |
| 03:02.21 | Mr_Rabies | dokuro-chan was too fanservicey for me with no real plot from the few episodes i saw :/ |
| 03:02.32 | Arrowmaster | i just watched it for the lolz |
| 03:02.59 | Arrowmaster | it actually did develop a big plot later on |
| 03:03.19 | Mr_Rabies | i just finished this lately, it was pretty good http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e0XlcAcV78 |
| 03:03.26 | Mr_Rabies | thoguh the 2nd of 3 episodes was pretty boring |
| 03:03.49 | kd3 | dokuro-chan takes a twisted sense of humor |
| 03:03.50 | Mr_Rabies | and yeah it's fanservicey, but it's go nagai fanservicey which is different |
| 03:04.02 | Mr_Rabies | go nagai owns |
| 03:04.12 | kd3 | I liked it, but it's more gore than traditional T&A fanservice |
| 03:06.03 | Mr_Rabies | this is more the kinda stuff i look forward to: http://youtu.be/ihXcQmrQQ-s |
| 03:06.33 | Arrowmaster | i saw the live action movie of that |
| 03:08.44 | Mr_Rabies | it was live action, directed by hideaki anno, so i've been putting it off, lol |
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| 03:15.22 | Mr_Rabies | the comic is insane though: http://4.p.s.mfcdn.net/store/manga/7161/01-000.0/compressed/ecutey_honey_v1_192.jpg |
| 03:15.38 | Mr_Rabies | protagonist just icin' henchmen left and right |
| 03:37.39 | alestane | ...Cutey Honey... *shudder* |
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| 03:44.36 | Mr_Rabies | hrm... is there an addon that makes the flight map larger? i can't find anything on curse :| |
| 03:44.53 | Mr_Rabies | this tiny map dealio ain't cuttin' it |
| 03:45.20 | NiLon | interface scaling too low? |
| 03:45.29 | Wobin | the flightmap is an odd beast |
| 03:45.30 | Mr_Rabies | it could be, but everything else is fine |
| 03:45.58 | Mr_Rabies | there's too many flight points now and it's hard to click on some |
| 03:46.49 | NiLon | can't remember when I have last time saw that panel :P |
| 03:47.17 | Mr_Rabies | i use em often when i've got other stuff i could do, like tabbing out |
| 03:47.25 | Mr_Rabies | so pretty much always |
| 03:47.31 | NiLon | oh wait, the time when I had fly to hyjal |
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| 03:50.56 | Sintacks | "An error has occurred. |
| 03:50.57 | Sintacks | To complete this transaction, please contact Blizzard Customer Support. Alternatively, you may select another form of payment." |
| 03:51.06 | Sintacks | ... that's the same bullshit my brother got when he tried to buy SC2 |
| 03:52.52 | Sintacks | and customer support closes in 8 minutes... |
| 03:54.24 | Sintacks | so it's a site wide problem... fml |
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| 04:59.33 | Sintacks | awesome... my toon says transfer pending... but it's not actually pending |
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| 05:32.51 | karl_w_w | protips: buy enchanting mats with your jp/honor |
| 05:33.02 | karl_w_w | just dont do it on my realm |
| 05:33.22 | mckenziemc1 | o.o |
| 05:36.16 | Sintacks | karl_w_w, i buy 700 JP epics and DE them |
| 05:36.43 | Sintacks | also. i spent 10k on AH on my old realm before transfering... and will sell it all for at least 20k |
| 05:37.47 | Mr_Rabies | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:37.55 | Mr_Rabies | a week or so ago |
| 05:38.24 | Mr_Rabies | me when i checked my mailbox: http://i.imgur.com/qetad.gif |
| 05:40.30 | Sintacks | lols |
| 05:40.38 | karl_w_w | maelstroms are worth fuck all on my realm |
| 05:40.43 | pompy1 | "A civil authority has issued a civil message......" ??? .. wtf that just came across my tv screen |
| 05:40.47 | karl_w_w | greater celestials are where it's at |
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| 05:45.18 | Mr_Rabies | maelstroms are worth about.... 150-160g on mine |
| 05:45.29 | Mr_Rabies | but heavenly shards are worth about 120 |
| 05:45.33 | Mr_Rabies | soooooo |
| 05:45.35 | Mr_Rabies | ;] |
| 05:46.08 | Mr_Rabies | i could literally buy every maelstrom on the AH, shatter it, and make profit |
| 05:46.17 | Mr_Rabies | huge profit |
| 05:46.46 | Mr_Rabies | because i sold 30k worth of heavenlies, listed individually |
| 05:58.15 | karl_w_w | more gold in fishing eels on the coast of uldum and cooking them |
| 05:58.43 | karl_w_w | 350g/stack |
| 06:00.51 | Shirik | dude |
| 06:01.00 | Shirik | RIM is trading below 2.0 P/E |
| 06:01.11 | Shirik | this company is so screwed |
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| 06:07.40 | Mr_Rabies | yeah but this was just stuff i collected while playing normally karl_w_w |
| 06:07.52 | Mr_Rabies | it was basically 30k in free gold |
| 06:09.16 | Fisker | owned kd3 |
| 06:09.30 | Fisker | and Bibi maybe but i told him they would make a system like that for Diablo 3 |
| 06:09.31 | Fisker | so bam |
| 06:10.41 | mckenziemc1 | anyone know a tool for analyzing a system of weighted rules and looking for the "best fit" solution? |
| 06:11.12 | mckenziemc1 | i want to abandon my current server, but maintain 1 of each class over each faction, but can't decide how to split them :( |
| 06:11.55 | Fisker | your mom is a tool for best fit mckenziemc1 |
| 06:11.57 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeeah |
| 06:12.47 | mckenziemc1 | glad you found someone tight enough for you Fisker |
| 06:13.15 | Fisker | thanks mckenziemc1 |
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| 06:30.14 | Arrowmaster | LICD made a reference to the horse story in the title of the latest strip, ive been waiting forever for rayne to tell it to somebody again |
| 06:34.01 | Trela | You mean XKCD? |
| 06:34.52 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:35.06 | Arrowmaster | LICD = Least I Could Do |
| 06:35.43 | Sintacks | why is it such a pain in the ass to copy roguepowerbar settings when you change servers |
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| 06:52.23 | Arrowmaster | who was the last bastard to link wimp.com in here, now that ive got it open in a tab i keep going through the history, probably until i find whereever i started last time this happened |
| 06:52.42 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wimp.com/yipyip/ |
| 06:59.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik was Arrowmaster |
| 06:59.13 | Thunder_Child | http://www.wimp.com/howsnakes/ |
| 06:59.14 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 06:59.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah i thought it was him |
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| 07:03.27 | Mr_Rabies | <Arrowmaster> http://www.wimp.com/yipyip/ |
| 07:03.30 | Mr_Rabies | this is from dragoncon |
| 07:03.33 | Mr_Rabies | and those dudes owned |
| 07:03.41 | Arrowmaster | yes it is, it says so on the page |
| 07:04.00 | Arrowmaster | now have a funny dog http://www.wimp.com/funnyoscar/ |
| 07:06.37 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZQUVkPl9Zw&feature=channel_video_title |
| 07:06.43 | Mr_Rabies | here's a good summary of dragoncon |
| 07:06.48 | Mr_Rabies | it owns |
| 07:09.37 | Corrodias | hm. that's a lot of costumes. |
| 07:10.09 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, i'd say 60k people or so, easy |
| 07:10.20 | Mr_Rabies | they report ~30k every year but that's to keep the fire marshall happy |
| 07:10.29 | Mr_Rabies | it gets bigger every year but they repor the same number |
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| 07:10.56 | Mr_Rabies | if you ever can make it to atlanta on labor day weekend, i highly suggest checking it out |
| 07:11.47 | Corrodias | i don't think i'd have any idea what to do with myself in the middle of a mob of costumed people |
| 07:12.15 | Mr_Rabies | it's shocking at first, but eventually you get used to it |
| 07:12.35 | Mr_Rabies | except when you bump into the guy covered in plate mail and spikes and it hurts :( |
| 07:14.02 | Mr_Rabies | i mean, check out these iron man costumes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qZQUVkPl9Zw#t=237s |
| 07:14.07 | Mr_Rabies | totally, completely awesome |
| 07:14.21 | Mr_Rabies | also a less awesome one and GUMBY YESSS |
| 07:14.49 | Corrodias | it's quite awesome, yes, but i can't imagine walking around and trying to see everything |
| 07:14.50 | Mr_Rabies | also totally not a ploy to use the attractive ladies right after the iron man cosplayers to lure you |
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| 07:22.23 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://www.wimp.com/brokenheadlight/ |
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| 07:38.56 | starlon | http://imgur.com/3lU7v |
| 07:40.39 | mckenziemc1 | heh |
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| 07:46.22 | kd3 | whee; penguindrum23 is out |
| 07:48.09 | Arrowmaster | not sure which is the last i watched |
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| 08:13.26 | Mr_Rabies | some guy in a LFR i was in had one of his cooldowns macroed to say LET'S INITIATE THE SURVIVAL STRATEGY |
| 08:13.43 | Mr_Rabies | immediately got Rock Over Japan stuck in my head |
| 08:14.23 | haste | I was in a LFR yesterday, with someone who announced all cooldowns for everyone in the raid |
| 08:14.45 | haste | start, duration, end and when it was up |
| 08:14.50 | Mr_Rabies | hahahaha |
| 08:14.53 | Mr_Rabies | genius trolling |
| 08:16.54 | Maldivia | that would be kind of information overflow... |
| 08:20.56 | Mr_Rabies | that's a reference to the aforementioned penguindrum, btw haste |
| 08:21.05 | Mr_Rabies | but i can't find a clip of it, apparently they keep taking iff of youtube :( |
| 08:22.44 | Mr_Rabies | so just have this instead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLJkqtjKgM |
| 08:23.52 | haste | I don't have sound at work anyway |
| 08:25.22 | Mr_Rabies | here's all you need to know about penguindrum: http://mawarupenguindrum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/gg_Mawaru_Penguindrum_-_21_BCFFBD7D.mkv_snapshot_13.04_2011.12.02_15.12.12.jpg |
| 08:25.52 | haste | needs more Gintama |
| 08:26.22 | Mr_Rabies | penguindrum is nuts, i'm just joking about taht being the only thing you need to know |
| 08:26.28 | Mr_Rabies | it's directed by ikuhara soooooo |
| 08:26.30 | Mr_Rabies | utena 2.0 |
| 08:28.28 | airtonix | i'm mad |
| 08:28.46 | Mr_Rabies | take a little penguins, fate, terminal illness, trains, food, possible incest overtones, dark secrets, organized crime/domestic terrorism, mind-erasing ping-pong balls, frog aphrodesiacs, and universe-altering, and you've got a little of what penguindrum has to offer |
| 08:29.01 | haste | is horribly behind on 2011 anime. |
| 08:29.08 | haste | only one I've watched is nichijou |
| 08:29.10 | airtonix | umadaste? |
| 08:29.14 | haste | n |
| 08:29.57 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: penguindrum looks kinda shit |
| 08:30.14 | Mr_Rabies | only if you have poor taste~ |
| 08:30.18 | haste | Mr_Rabies: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/51d5e69bf0612a0cc4574ef7b1de7b6a.png all you need to know about gintama |
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| 08:30.55 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: the last anime i enjoyed was deadman wonderland |
| 08:30.59 | haste | oh wait, think I've seen two other 2011 animes |
| 08:31.07 | airtonix | and then fadetoblack i think |
| 08:31.27 | Mr_Rabies | seriously one of the best shows of the decade |
| 08:31.35 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 08:31.38 | Mr_Rabies | including last decade |
| 08:31.52 | haste | lies, that would be mushi-shi |
| 08:32.05 | airtonix | if i buy thos Mr_Rabies, and it's shit... i'm coming to kill you |
| 08:32.05 | Mr_Rabies | here's a frame from penguindrum: http://mawarupenguindrum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/vlcsnap-000042.png |
| 08:32.35 | haste | wacky art style is always good |
| 08:32.43 | Mr_Rabies | http://mawarupenguindrum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/vlcsnap-000192.png |
| 08:32.47 | haste | points towards madoka. |
| 08:33.09 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies: i might just kill you anyway just in case |
| 08:33.09 | Mr_Rabies | http://mawarupenguindrum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/vlcsnap-000452.png |
| 08:33.31 | Mr_Rabies | listen, you lowlives who will never amount to anything: obtain the penguindrum |
| 08:33.36 | airtonix | ~whalenuke Mr_Rabies |
| 08:33.36 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Mr_Rabies with his mind powers. |
| 08:33.56 | mckenziemc1 | ~whaleguts airtonix |
| 08:34.05 | haste | ~whaleparry airtonix |
| 08:34.05 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry airtonix's attacks. |
| 08:34.05 | airtonix | ~whaleboner mckenziemc1 |
| 08:34.26 | Mr_Rabies | http://mawarupenguindrum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/vlcsnap-00095.png |
| 08:34.34 | Mr_Rabies | penguin medicine is far advanced beyond our own |
| 08:34.42 | airtonix | you sound mad |
| 08:36.13 | Mr_Rabies | it's a really dark show, if you'd believe it |
| 08:36.36 | Mr_Rabies | just about everyone has a dark secret, and you eventually learn what they are |
| 08:37.05 | Corrodias | if i ever find myself wanting a tv show to watch, i'll ask you for anime or something |
| 08:38.24 | haste | only been in the mood for comedy lately |
| 08:38.32 | haste | or something with insanity |
| 08:38.38 | Mr_Rabies | it has a lot of comedy, but the actual storyline is really, really dark |
| 08:38.53 | Mr_Rabies | maybe not madoka dark but real life dark |
| 08:39.35 | Mr_Rabies | i have a hard time with modern comedy anime, there're only a select few i can watch |
| 08:39.54 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather watch other genres with comedic elements, usually |
| 08:40.02 | haste | madoka dark is good dark tho' |
| 08:40.15 | Mr_Rabies | oh yeah, i love some grimdark |
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| 08:40.43 | haste | I actually only picked it up, due at a remix :P |
| 08:41.02 | haste | the samples just didn't fit into some puella magic serie |
| 08:41.26 | Mr_Rabies | this guy's my favorite director, and his grimdark is pretty much as tragic as it gets: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshiyuki_Tomino |
| 08:41.36 | haste | http://soundcloud.com/pandaboy/connect-night-of-drumnbass |
| 08:41.45 | haste | this remix, it the entire reason :P |
| 08:42.19 | haste | can't stand mecha. |
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| 08:43.25 | Mr_Rabies | pfft you just need to watch good mecha |
| 08:43.49 | Mr_Rabies | it's not even a genre if it's done right, it can be used for anything |
| 08:43.53 | haste | I've watched some of... |
| 08:44.07 | haste | can't remember.. |
| 08:44.18 | haste | something that starts with s and involves kids dying :P |
| 08:44.50 | haste | or maybe it wasn't S =/ |
| 08:45.34 | haste | bokurano! |
| 08:45.52 | Mr_Rabies | in the original gundam shows, the gundam really wasn't all that important |
| 08:45.59 | Mr_Rabies | it was just a tool used by the characters |
| 08:46.18 | Sintacks | is it wrong that i bailed on my old guild without saying anything |
| 08:46.30 | haste | http://anidb.net/a4861 |
| 08:46.33 | Sintacks | i'm also a rogue and had 120 shadowy gems |
| 08:47.11 | Mr_Rabies | saying you don't like mecha because you watched something like bokurano is like saying you don't like sci-fi because you watched the star wars prequels :P |
| 08:47.24 | haste | I've wathed other mecha as well :P |
| 08:47.28 | Corrodias | haste: now that sounds awfully interesting |
| 08:47.31 | haste | but this one was the last I watched |
| 08:47.38 | Mr_Rabies | not to compare bokurano to those, i haven't seen a lot of it, but it's too new and too derivative of other stuff |
| 08:47.43 | haste | I did like FMP |
| 08:47.53 | Mr_Rabies | FMP season 2 was amazing |
| 08:47.54 | Corrodias | oh. maybe you just have no taste, then. |
| 08:47.56 | haste | but I found all the mecha stuff horribly boring |
| 08:48.05 | Corrodias | are we talking about the same FMP? "full metal panic"? |
| 08:48.11 | Mr_Rabies | yes |
| 08:48.12 | haste | yes |
| 08:48.14 | Mr_Rabies | season 2 was amazing |
| 08:48.18 | Mr_Rabies | season 1 was kinda bleh |
| 08:48.20 | Corrodias | that silly thing with the Emotionless Military Guy? |
| 08:48.21 | haste | the parody > * |
| 08:48.22 | Mr_Rabies | mostly cause of gonzo |
| 08:48.33 | Mr_Rabies | yes Corrodias |
| 08:48.57 | Corrodias | maybe i should do less game-playing and more show-watching. every show is a disappointment in some respect, but no game is perfect, either. |
| 08:49.08 | Mr_Rabies | but you know the crazy blonde villain guy in FMP S2 haste? |
| 08:49.22 | Mr_Rabies | he's a total Expy of a character from Zeta Gundam, even the same voice actor |
| 08:49.39 | haste | Corrodias: http://anidb.net/a3433 this. |
| 08:49.41 | Corrodias | i don't even remember if i saw season 2. all i can remember of the show is a couple of robots and robot beach volleyball. |
| 08:49.54 | Corrodias | uh... what about that? |
| 08:50.13 | haste | Corrodias: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ahEygBSd4 not too spoilerly AMV |
| 08:50.27 | haste | great anime is great |
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| 08:51.05 | Corrodias | well, it looks interesting, but why are you showing me this? |
| 08:51.20 | haste | beause you should watch it :) |
| 08:51.23 | Corrodias | i worry that you think i asked something |
| 08:51.49 | haste | nop. |
| 08:52.03 | Corrodias | okay. there are a lot of things i should watch. they're harder to get ahold of than i'd like. |
| 08:52.23 | Mr_Rabies | mecha's addicting though |
| 08:52.33 | Mr_Rabies | you start with gundam and eventually wind up watching stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jUc7WFohXY |
| 08:52.35 | Corrodias | japan wants way more money for those than i'm willing to give them, so i'd have to go the pirate route, which is annoyingly inconvenient |
| 08:52.48 | haste | you always have cunchryroll |
| 08:53.43 | Corrodias | what is this? a streaming service? |
| 08:53.45 | haste | how the.. crunchyroll* |
| 08:53.47 | haste | yeah |
| 08:53.58 | Mr_Rabies | i love the rad guitar solo a minute into that intro |
| 08:53.59 | Mr_Rabies | hahaha |
| 08:54.22 | Corrodias | another thing i like is subtitles, because it's easier to ignore bad voice acting when you can't understand what they're saying |
| 08:54.33 | haste | it has subtitles |
| 08:54.49 | Corrodias | what the hell is a simulcast? |
| 08:54.50 | haste | and afaik, you can stream old episodes without subscribing |
| 08:55.22 | Mr_Rabies | have you seen gunbuster, haste? |
| 08:55.28 | haste | parts of it |
| 08:55.35 | haste | Corrodias: broadcasted at the same time as in japan |
| 08:55.54 | Mr_Rabies | you gotta watch it |
| 08:56.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's so good |
| 08:56.10 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 08:56.46 | Mr_Rabies | ooh patlabor's another good one to get you into mecha, haste |
| 08:56.57 | Mr_Rabies | it's less daunting than something like gundam |
| 08:57.44 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ei6W-bY5WU&feature=player_detailpage#t=50s |
| 08:57.46 | haste | you don't have any dark/angsty mecha up your sleeve? |
| 08:57.51 | haste | still no sound at work :D |
| 08:58.51 | Corrodias | "Sadly, this title will be available for US audiences only." -- oh boy, this bullshit again |
| 08:59.17 | haste | yeah, sometimes they just want you to pirate |
| 08:59.26 | Mr_Rabies | i have tons of dark mecha up my sleeve but it's hard to just jump into if you don't even like it :( |
| 08:59.45 | haste | I like dark/angsty and random comedy :P |
| 09:00.05 | Mr_Rabies | the darkest mecha is probably space runaway ideon |
| 09:00.13 | Mr_Rabies | it's old though, but it's awesome |
| 09:01.01 | Corrodias | and unfortunately, the site doesn't have that "mushishi" available, either |
| 09:01.13 | haste | *sadface* |
| 09:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | i can't find any good ideon videos that aren't spoilers :( |
| 09:02.30 | haste | doesn't matter much, still no sound :P |
| 09:02.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's so full of brutality that i can't find anything but the intro which really doesn't tell you much |
| 09:03.20 | Mr_Rabies | here's a pic of the main character, this should help you see how grimdark it is: http://otakuism.animeblogger.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/vlcsnap-424155.jpg |
| 09:03.41 | Mr_Rabies | seriously though, it is dark but i can't really explain why without spoiling everything |
| 09:04.02 | Mr_Rabies | http://gallery.fanserviceftw.com/_images/a597c27f9fe23d2e869d5bd4c262d296/6285%20-%20afro%20cosmo_yuki%20ideon%20space_runaway_ideon%20subtitles.png |
| 09:04.37 | Corrodias | afros are not dark |
| 09:04.39 | haste | hm, that one is used for a 4chan meme |
| 09:04.48 | Mr_Rabies | but basically, this crew of people uncover what they think are some ancient ruins |
| 09:05.04 | Mr_Rabies | it turns out to actually be a giant robot, and there's something about it that's not quite right |
| 09:05.21 | Mr_Rabies | at the same time as they finish uncovering it, a group of aliens attack them |
| 09:05.26 | [Wobin] | oh man, no cairenn |
| 09:05.41 | [Wobin] | cause omg http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LNCC6ZYI3SI |
| 09:05.46 | Mr_Rabies | she done got peer'd |
| 09:07.34 | Mr_Rabies | but yeah, take my word for it, ideon is probably as dark as it gets |
| 09:07.56 | Mr_Rabies | if you want something a little newer, there's victory gundam, but it can be confusing if you haven't seen the gundam shows that came out before it :/ |
| 09:08.30 | Mr_Rabies | here's a good non-spoiler video of victory gundam summed up in about 4 minutes, but you may wanna save the link until you have sound: http://youtu.be/CdHlWqZU2bw |
| 09:08.34 | Mr_Rabies | okay i really should be getting to bed |
| 09:08.54 | haste | and my appointment showed up |
| 09:08.57 | haste | so I can get some work done |
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| 09:25.24 | airtonix | wow... |
| 09:25.28 | airtonix | just ... wow |
| 09:25.48 | airtonix | vodafone australia website uses session ids as querystring get parameters |
| 09:25.54 | airtonix | fail |
| 09:26.22 | wereHamster | why fail? what's wrong with that? |
| 09:30.48 | airtonix | haste |
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| 09:43.12 | mitch0 | airtonix: are you sure you don't have cookies disabled? |
| 09:43.21 | mitch0 | I used that as a fallback if cookies are off |
| 09:43.34 | airtonix | cookies are not turned off |
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| 09:43.57 | airtonix | and there is much better ways to maintain session than a get parameter |
| 09:46.01 | mitch0 | there's nothing wrong with it, really. (apart from it being ugly). I prefer cookies but I don't know any other easy ways |
| 09:46.27 | mitch0 | (javascript trickery is _not_ as easy as dropping a cookie or using ;sid=lala) |
| 09:47.32 | airtonix | apparently you don't care about users or seo |
| 09:52.55 | mitch0 | seo? |
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| 10:22.48 | [Wobin] | seo generally isn't useful inside member areas of sites |
| 10:23.02 | [Wobin] | you don't -want- search engines to link directly to them |
| 10:23.38 | mitch0 | ah, search engine optimization |
| 10:23.44 | mitch0 | thanks wobin ;) |
| 10:25.20 | amro | mitch0: that's like saying there's nothing wrong with murder apart from the killing |
| 10:28.34 | nevcairiel | More like nothing wrong with murder apart from it being ugly |
| 10:35.44 | amro | I think the Flower Arrangement Serial Killer would take offense at that |
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| 11:01.46 | starlon | Mmmmmmmm cherub tomatoes |
| 11:09.20 | starlon | kicks a bucket. |
| 11:18.02 | Adys_ | ~seen tekkub |
| 11:18.06 | purl | tekkub is currently on #wowuidev (12h 47m 54s) #wowace (12h 47m 54s), last said: 'they've been watchign some damn stupid stuff'. |
| 11:19.57 | Adys_ | airtonix: java websites do that a lot |
| 11:20.20 | Adys_ | seen some pretty unsecure ones at it too |
| 11:20.40 | Adys_ | and yes, there are some very wrong issues with maintaining session IDs as user-visible get parameters |
| 11:21.10 | Adys_ | especially since usually, the ones who do that also don't check for brutal changes (IP, UA, ..) |
| 11:22.27 | amro | I always check for changes to .. |
| 11:34.51 | airtonix | Fisker: http://i.lulzimg.com/7997537290.png |
| 11:35.17 | airtonix | amro: i checked you face for changes |
| 11:35.27 | airtonix | there was none since you use botox |
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| 11:39.56 | harl | hi |
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| 12:24.14 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
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| 12:34.43 | Jamash | Adys: so you're saying security through obscurity is a good thing? |
| 12:35.12 | Adys | I'm saying vulnerability through showing your ass to everyone is a bad thing |
| 12:35.17 | Adys | you take whichever lessong you want from it |
| 12:36.13 | Jamash | cookies and hidden POST fields are user-visible as well |
| 12:36.31 | Adys | cookies are user-visible but cannot be copy-pasted into irc. |
| 12:37.08 | Jamash | a session id shouldn't contain any information other than a random string |
| 12:37.29 | starlon | place the password in the cookie! |
| 12:37.32 | Adys | because, see, if i wanted to paste my favourite porn video here, and happened to.. oops! http://hsbc.co.uk/view-accounts?sessid=d2bdbd774141047f6a3a62159c33c67d154348b7 |
| 12:37.59 | Jamash | your favorite porn site is a bank? |
| 12:38.45 | Adys | my point is, its not security through obscurity; session ids in urls without basic checking is a huge vulnerability |
| 12:39.49 | Jamash | you appear to be confused about which part contains the vulnerability |
| 12:40.16 | Jamash | session ids in anything without basic checking are a huge vulnerability |
| 12:40.38 | Adys | obviously |
| 12:40.42 | Adys | but its worse if its in urls |
| 12:41.03 | Jamash | the vulnerability is the same, you just feel better about yourself if it's hidden |
| 12:41.10 | Adys | sigh |
| 12:41.12 | Adys | you're full of ity |
| 12:42.17 | starlon | it's not the same. Take a screenshot with your session wide open to imgur viewers. |
| 12:46.44 | starlon | Or view a access log - 130.13.193.117 - - [09/Apr/2006:15:45:40 -0500] "GET /ajaxTerm/ui_methods.php?method=get_loginid HTTP/1.1" 200 - |
| 12:48.37 | karl_w_w | 2nd boss in raid finder, second time the tanks have let me die at the start of the fight |
| 12:49.28 | airtonix | starlon: i placed your face in the cookie |
| 12:49.50 | starlon | poor cookie |
| 12:50.01 | airtonix | don't berate yourself |
| 12:51.44 | Jamash | http://codebutler.com/firesheep cookies are secure amirite |
| 12:52.48 | airtonix | you sound mad |
| 12:53.00 | airtonix | does this mean you are using vim |
| 12:53.12 | Jamash | vim is for cannibalistic lobsterboys |
| 12:53.21 | airtonix | and mad people |
| 12:53.32 | airtonix | certifiable |
| 12:55.04 | Jamash | I use nano |
| 12:55.53 | Adys | Each BattleTag is automatically assigned a 4-digit BattleTag code, which combines with your chosen name to create a unique identifier (e.g. AwesomeGnome#3592). |
| 12:56.16 | Adys | so.. it just takes 10 thousand users with the same lichking nickname to break it? |
| 12:56.28 | Jamash | are you going to create ten thousand accounts and sign them all up under the same name? |
| 12:57.23 | Jamash | and then get all of them banned? |
| 12:57.59 | Jamash | I wonder if battletags allow accented characters |
| 12:58.02 | Adys | yes. because on a community of over a good hundred million accounts, I totally need to do that. |
| 12:58.18 | Jamash | wat |
| 12:58.29 | Adys | btags are bnet-wide |
| 12:58.35 | Adys | afk |
| 13:01.09 | airtonix | Jamash: we should start "The International Peoples Movement Against Vim" |
| 13:01.28 | starlon | Occupy Bash? |
| 13:01.51 | Jamash | occupy sensible-editor |
| 13:02.06 | starlon | What's wrong with vim? |
| 13:02.08 | Jamash | nyquil just kicked in, yo |
| 13:02.11 | Jamash | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 13:02.15 | airtonix | umad? |
| 13:02.20 | Jamash | modeful editing |
| 13:02.23 | Jamash | airtonix: old |
| 13:02.45 | airtonix | yes i'm getting along in my old age |
| 13:03.15 | Jamash | you're never going to be the new fisker if you can't develop your own catchphrases |
| 13:03.49 | airtonix | i think you can grace the stage in that capacity |
| 13:03.55 | Jamash | uhatter? |
| 13:04.21 | Jamash | oh I'm not the new fisker |
| 13:04.36 | Jamash | fisker is the old me |
| 13:04.38 | Adys | airtonix: whats wrong with vim? |
| 13:04.45 | airtonix | everything |
| 13:04.48 | Jamash | modeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
| 13:05.03 | Adys | lemme be clearer |
| 13:05.05 | Jamash | and colons |
| 13:05.10 | Adys | what's wrong with vim that affects your life? |
| 13:05.17 | airtonix | quite alot |
| 13:05.25 | Adys | humor me |
| 13:05.36 | Jamash | ok, why did the chicken cross the road |
| 13:05.52 | airtonix | the keyboard shortcuts are overly complicated |
| 13:06.04 | Adys | airtonix: what's wrong with vim that *affects your life*? |
| 13:06.29 | Adys | as in, dont use vim and problem solved |
| 13:06.48 | Adys | i dislike ie6 but it affects my life because i have to support it |
| 13:07.00 | airtonix | i will not rest until i have destroyed vim |
| 13:07.08 | airtonix | Adys: stop supporting it |
| 13:07.12 | Adys | i dislike emacs and it affects my life because i regularly come across mix-indented files |
| 13:07.15 | Jamash | aptitude purge vim |
| 13:07.15 | airtonix | microsoft have |
| 13:07.33 | Adys | i dislike vim but i don't give a shit, because vim is harmless to anyone who dislikes it |
| 13:07.45 | Jamash | vim killed my parents |
| 13:08.12 | airtonix | vim shot me in the knee with an arrow |
| 13:08.20 | Adys | you guys are idiots. |
| 13:08.39 | Jamash | vim doesn't support arrow keys, it must have shot you in the knee with ctrl-j |
| 13:09.03 | Jamash | I'm sorry, escape (to change modes) then j |
| 13:09.26 | Jamash | Adys: I know you am, but what are I? |
| 13:10.00 | Jamash | OH GOD THE NYQUIL |
| 13:10.33 | Torhal | Big N, little y, GIANT FUCKING Q! |
| 13:10.36 | airtonix | i'm not convinced you abstain from the evils of vim |
| 13:11.10 | airtonix | i will have to purge your sins with forced usage of microsoft word ribbon bar 2012 beta |
| 13:11.33 | starlon | :q |
| 13:12.28 | Fisker | vi > vim btw |
| 13:12.31 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 13:12.33 | Fisker | Bejeweled |
| 13:12.38 | Fisker | son, i am disappoint |
| 13:12.44 | Adys | what about it? |
| 13:12.54 | Fisker | this is why i don't use facebook! |
| 13:13.01 | [Wobin] | Sigh. I venture into lfd on my shaman, hoping not to fail like the last few times |
| 13:13.02 | Adys | i don't use facebook either |
| 13:13.04 | Adys | your point? |
| 13:13.10 | [Wobin] | and I manage to heal a run properly |
| 13:13.10 | Fisker | It's on Google+ now |
| 13:13.12 | Fisker | via you :( |
| 13:13.19 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 13:13.21 | Adys | its been on g+ for months |
| 13:13.25 | [Wobin] | but of course, the tank rolls need on the spell power shield |
| 13:13.28 | [Wobin] | for mogging |
| 13:13.30 | Fisker | i mean your post |
| 13:13.37 | [Wobin] | god fucking damn I hate that excuse |
| 13:13.48 | Fisker | unless my google+ feed is totally messed up |
| 13:13.50 | Adys | Fisker: i shared the post because ive been waiting for an html5 version for ages |
| 13:14.32 | airtonix | for a html5 version |
| 13:15.28 | Fisker | i want a html5 version of Battlefield 3 |
| 13:15.49 | Stanzilla | Fisker: what's your battletag |
| 13:15.58 | Fisker | What isn't it? |
| 13:16.03 | Fisker | http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/FISKER_Q/ |
| 13:16.26 | Stanzilla | blizzard battletag :D |
| 13:16.35 | Fisker | oh fuck you |
| 13:16.56 | Stanzilla | GOTCHA |
| 13:16.57 | Fisker | It's Fisker #I got 137 problems and the number not being 1337 is one |
| 13:17.26 | Fisker | if you can see past my hard clues you will get it |
| 13:18.45 | Stanzilla | 1137? :p |
| 13:18.52 | Fisker | nope |
| 13:18.56 | Fisker | 137 problems |
| 13:19.00 | airtonix | umad? |
| 13:19.06 | Fisker | umad airtonix ? |
| 13:19.10 | airtonix | umad? |
| 13:19.22 | Fisker | i asked first |
| 13:19.41 | Stanzilla | 1200? |
| 13:20.15 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:20.18 | Fisker | you sure are bright |
| 13:20.29 | Fisker | y u no real id though? |
| 13:20.50 | Fisker | giev cross-region forums though |
| 13:21.40 | Fisker | i can update google music now though |
| 13:21.44 | Fisker | jumps in joy etc.) |
| 13:22.13 | Stanzilla | 14:20:39 ∙ Fisker: y u no real id though? < what? |
| 13:22.21 | Fisker | y u ask for battletag |
| 13:22.23 | Stanzilla | I'm online |
| 13:22.26 | Stanzilla | just because |
| 13:22.31 | Fisker | ok |
| 13:22.51 | Fisker | No. Your Real ID friendships will continue to exist, and all of the features and benefits of Real ID will remain available to you. BattleTags will simply give players another way to connect and communicate across Blizzard games. For example, if two players aren't Real ID friends but want to stay in touch across Battle.net, they'll be able to establish a BattleTag-based friendship; in the future, BattleTag friends will have access to |
| 13:22.51 | Fisker | many of the communication benefits (such as cross-game chat) currently available to Real ID friends. |
| 13:22.52 | Fisker | fap |
| 13:23.14 | Fisker | not saying cross-region yet though |
| 13:23.24 | Fisker | just do it blizzard |
| 13:23.53 | Stanzilla | it's just realid without real names |
| 13:25.09 | mitch0 | sd |
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| 13:39.00 | Mikk | it's realid that you can post in forums without fear of having your account pwnt |
| 13:39.17 | Mikk | (blizzard says to not post realid in their forums atm, which is a bit argh for xrealm recruitment forums) |
| 13:45.35 | airtonix | Adys: i lol'd |
| 13:46.38 | airtonix | dude suggested i use grep to calculate edit distance of two blog entries |
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| 13:54.08 | airtonix | Adys: instead of something like py-editdist or http://code.google.com/p/pylevenshtein/ |
| 13:54.09 | Adys | airtonix: .. what? |
| 13:54.23 | Adys | ah |
| 13:54.47 | Lopeppeppy | What the heck is an edit distance between blog entries? You boggles me. |
| 13:55.22 | Adys | iirc something about the cost of insertion vs deletion |
| 13:57.20 | bluspacecow | and i moggle you |
| 13:58.03 | airtonix | Adys: i'm going to use it to decided which blog entries will be allowed to be published (and there for index by google) and which ones i need to take and scream blue murder at the publisher for attempting to sabotage our situation with google |
| 13:58.36 | airtonix | in short, prevent duplication of content |
| 13:58.56 | airtonix | or at least provide some automation that helps the moderation process |
| 14:00.14 | Lopeppeppy | Oiy. Crazy talk. |
| 14:00.37 | airtonix | but i just found it hilarious that this contractor seriously suggets using grep (obviously via subprocess.Popen) |
| 14:01.15 | airtonix | yes he is a php programmer |
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| 14:35.31 | dusf | can i just copy my wow dir from an ext4 partition to ntfs and run it? |
| 14:36.15 | karl_w_w | any1 tried farming ds normal trash yet? |
| 14:36.28 | karl_w_w | should be able to dusf |
| 14:36.48 | dusf | cool thanks, won't hurt to try anyway and it will be nice not having to update |
| 14:38.28 | Ackis | I killed deathwing last night |
| 14:38.36 | Ackis | 3 people left alive and he died at like 1.4% |
| 14:40.44 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. Morning alestane. |
| 14:41.07 | alestane | Wow, Lunessa's here earlier than usual. Morning! |
| 14:41.20 | alestane | huggles Peppy. Did you tame the vicious HTML? |
| 14:41.46 | Lunessa | Morning peoples! Hugs all around and stuff. |
| 14:42.06 | Lunessa | And… I'm working an early shift until the "winter break" is over. |
| 14:42.18 | Lunessa | I can't call it christmas, ya'know. |
| 14:44.55 | amro | airtonix: the last time I added functionality to a php site, I had to use exec |
| 14:45.00 | amro | so it makes sense |
| 14:45.19 | airtonix | amro: how long ago was that |
| 14:45.52 | airtonix | amro: because : http://php.net/manual/en/function.levenshtein.php |
| 14:46.15 | Lopeppeppy | I did, alestane. At least, good enough for sending it out to the multitudes. I'm not *happy* with how Outlook 2010 views it, but Outlook is a freaky beast that deserves to die anyway. |
| 14:46.38 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: you should use gimp instead of outlook |
| 14:46.42 | Lunessa | Outlook - the application that has TOO many damned features. |
| 14:46.52 | Lopeppeppy | Outlook is already gimped, but thanks. :) |
| 14:46.55 | Ackis | likes outlook! |
| 14:47.01 | airtonix | i hate Ackis! |
| 14:47.13 | airtonix | well i might |
| 14:47.21 | airtonix | actually i'm not sure |
| 14:47.31 | Ackis | everyone hates me |
| 14:47.35 | Ackis | it's because I'm Canadian |
| 14:47.35 | airtonix | ok then |
| 14:47.39 | airtonix | oh |
| 14:47.46 | airtonix | is there a cure for that? |
| 14:48.20 | Lunessa | Yeah, emigration to New Zealand. |
| 14:48.22 | bluspacecow | kk ni ni Peppys |
| 14:48.26 | Ackis | not really, it's better than being an american :D |
| 14:48.34 | bluspacecow | i could adopy ackis |
| 14:48.36 | bluspacecow | he could be |
| 14:48.40 | bluspacecow | BlueAckisFishMan |
| 14:49.35 | BlueAckisFishMan | :D |
| 14:50.08 | bluspacecow | LOL |
| 14:50.13 | bluspacecow | that amuses me greatly |
| 14:50.18 | bluspacecow | sadly i must sleep |
| 14:50.46 | Lopeppeppy | Sleep well |
| 14:50.54 | BlueAckisFishMan | g'night |
| 14:51.45 | Lopeppeppy | I was listening to my favorite radio show this morning, they were doing a call in quiz session. Out of 4 people, none of them could give the second line to the Canadian national anthem. I just about went through the airwaves to murder them in their chairs. |
| 14:51.50 | airtonix | umad? |
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| 14:52.33 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I can't do it either. But I'm not Canadian, so why would I learn their anthem? |
| 14:53.22 | Lopeppeppy | Because... they're right there... Maybe it's because I grew up in a state that borders Canada? And listened to Canadian radio stations in French? |
| 14:53.36 | amro | airtonix: it was for something else entirely, just noting that my work in php involved not using php |
| 14:54.05 | Lunessa | I live next door to Mexico. I'm not learning their anthem either. |
| 14:54.11 | Lopeppeppy | Why not? |
| 14:54.35 | Mikk | if this was audio |
| 14:54.38 | Lunessa | Because I don't bother to learn the songs of national pride for other nations for which I don't experience national pride? |
| 14:54.42 | Mikk | i'd totally do my Pablo Francesco imitation |
| 14:55.01 | Lopeppeppy | It's such a small world to not know your neighbor's name, Lunessa. |
| 14:55.30 | Lunessa | I know their name. And I speak their language. I just don't know their national anthem. |
| 14:55.37 | Lunessa | And don't care to. |
| 14:56.03 | Lopeppeppy | Well, you speak their language, so that's a good thing. |
| 14:56.14 | BlueAckisFishMan | no you speak american, not english :P |
| 14:56.25 | Lunessa | And following that chain of logic, everyone in a small euro nation would need to know many anthems. |
| 14:57.07 | amro | and why not, might I ask? |
| 14:57.12 | Lunessa | Ackis, do you speak French? And I don't mean the few words that are common use in Canada, I mean.. the full on language? |
| 14:57.34 | amro | french french or quebec french? |
| 14:57.39 | amro | the latter is unintelligible |
| 14:58.18 | Lunessa | I didn't find it so. *shrug* And I only speak enough French to get smacked by pretty girls. *weg* |
| 14:58.44 | starlon | I thought "American" was the wrong term. |
| 14:58.53 | starlon | It's USAsian imo. |
| 14:59.06 | amro | fun fact: francois perusse, a quebec radio comedian, translated his skits for french radio to actual french |
| 14:59.16 | Lunessa | Americans (referring to citizens of the USA) speak English by default. |
| 15:00.01 | karl_w_w | [22:56:02] [W From][Ashellia]: But I just saved myself 1.4k? [22:56:21] [W To][Ashellia]: how did u save 1.4k [22:57:23] [W From][Ashellia]: by not buying the Ah ones and having the mats myself? |
| 15:00.15 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 15:00.20 | karl_w_w | wonders what it feels like to the that stupid |
| 15:00.31 | amro | quebec version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c-x-T9a6aM french version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIpT_CAov4k |
| 15:01.12 | starlon | “English: A language that lurks in dark alleys, beats up other languages and rifles through their pockets for spare vocabulary.” ― James Nicol |
| 15:01.53 | Mikk | HAHA |
| 15:02.09 | alestane | "Our home and native land", Peppy? |
| 15:02.10 | Lunessa | karl_w_w: Never get too close to stupid. It's sticky, airborne, and communicable. |
| 15:02.15 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:02.16 | alestane | But then, I watch hockey. |
| 15:02.18 | Lopeppeppy | You got it, alestane. |
| 15:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | Even if it's from hockey, you *know* it. |
| 15:03.28 | karl_w_w | starlon: it's funny, but every language steals words from others :P |
| 15:04.49 | starlon | But do they hang out in dark alleys? |
| 15:05.03 | karl_w_w | most likely |
| 15:06.20 | Lunessa | Unless they're French. In which case, they treat foreign words like ticks and try to burn them off. |
| 15:07.00 | karl_w_w | nah even then |
| 15:07.38 | karl_w_w | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/people#French |
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| 15:10.29 | alestane | I am amused that in the Inuktitut version, the lines are typically two words long...but they still scan. |
| 15:11.09 | alestane | (And as I understand it, those words are composed out of smaller morphemes, so they typically contain the meaning of four or five words.( |
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| 15:20.06 | alestane | words in English, that is. |
| 15:26.14 | karl_w_w | if any1 is interested, anno 2070 is totally addictive |
| 15:26.24 | karl_w_w | if you like world builder games |
| 15:26.31 | airtonix | no |
| 15:26.58 | airtonix | karl_w_w: it feels like a conspiracy |
| 15:27.31 | karl_w_w | everything does to you airtonix |
| 15:27.45 | airtonix | it's my common sense |
| 15:28.10 | Thunder_Child | it is rather enjoyable karl_w_w, and has a better 'get to know how to play the game' than the preveious version |
| 15:28.34 | karl_w_w | i'd never heard of anno until this one |
| 15:29.19 | Thunder_Child | anno 1701 is the other one |
| 15:29.32 | karl_w_w | i thought 1404 was the previous |
| 15:30.41 | Thunder_Child | oh, that was the sequel |
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| 15:43.39 | dusf | what's the maximum amount of ram cata will make use of? |
| 15:46.44 | BlueAckisFishMan | I let my wife take my 3DS to work yesterday, her and her co-worker changed my Mii to have a pink shirt and cat ears :D |
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| 15:50.42 | Maldivia | cute |
| 15:51.45 | BlueAckisFishMan | anyone here ingame that is a miner? :D |
| 15:51.56 | BlueAckisFishMan | (not minor, I'm not that kind of person!) |
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| 15:55.06 | Cide | this is not ingame |
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| 15:56.02 | Cide | but to answer what you meant to ask, probably lots of people |
| 15:56.33 | karl_w_w | dusf_: 2gb unless you modify the exe to be large address aware |
| 15:58.24 | dusf_ | karl_w_w: is that ever necessary, and was wotlk the same with 2gb? |
| 15:58.54 | airtonix | dusf_: yes |
| 15:58.59 | Lunessa | ackis - what's your question about mining? |
| 16:01.09 | dusf_ | airtonix: on both counts? if so please elaborate on the former |
| 16:01.22 | airtonix | i'm mad |
| 16:02.01 | Lunessa | dusf_: WoW has never been shipped as Large Address Aware and there is no 64bit client. The game itself is limited to 2gb or RAM - just like any other 32bit application under windows. |
| 16:02.36 | BlueAckisFishMan | Lunessa: with a toon that has mining can you do a /script GetProfessionInfo(1) or /script GetProfessionInfo(2) and let me know what it displays? |
| 16:02.51 | Lunessa | Ackis - Not for several hours. |
| 16:03.00 | BlueAckisFishMan | you tease |
| 16:03.09 | Lunessa | You know you like it. |
| 16:03.10 | karl_w_w | codetease |
| 16:03.30 | Cide | why is ackis BlueAckisFishMan |
| 16:03.32 | pompy1 | BlueAckisFishMan: u know im a miner? |
| 16:03.57 | BlueAckisFishMan | pompy1: nope I didn't know that plus when I asked you were still sleeping :P |
| 16:04.07 | BlueAckisFishMan | Cide: 07:48bluspacecowi could adopy ackis |
| 16:04.15 | Cide | ew |
| 16:04.23 | amro | ackis looking for minors? when did you turn into a middle aged japanese salaryman? |
| 16:04.38 | Thunder_Child | when he got married |
| 16:04.46 | karl_w_w | http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/06/60-of-japanese-agree-children-are-unnecessary/ |
| 16:05.06 | dusf_ | Lunessa: thanks, i did not know that |
| 16:05.06 | haste | sankaku has nsfw ads at times btw |
| 16:05.23 | karl_w_w | that's part of it's charm |
| 16:05.34 | dusf_ | do you think there would be a noticeable upgrade in wow between 2gb of 667mhz ram and 2gb of 800mhz ram? |
| 16:05.35 | amro | at times? :P |
| 16:05.40 | dusf_ | *noticeable difference even |
| 16:05.49 | haste | yes amro :P |
| 16:06.00 | amro | dusf_: not really, the bottleneck when loading is your hard drive |
| 16:06.17 | karl_w_w | there will be a small difference but not much |
| 16:06.41 | Dagmar | There's conditions under which you can map 3Gb RAM in 32-bit, but screw em |
| 16:06.44 | amro | but if you're upgrading ram, get 8gb |
| 16:06.46 | karl_w_w | probably not noticeable in wow actually |
| 16:07.02 | airtonix | amro: lol 8gb |
| 16:07.15 | Lunessa | The RAM speed won't make much difference to you in WOW. |
| 16:07.31 | Dagmar | dusf: Are you going to notice a 20% difference in 15s? |
| 16:07.35 | karl_w_w | wow hammers cpu, and hard drive when loading |
| 16:07.38 | Lunessa | The biggest place to get WoW performance enhancements is disk i/o |
| 16:07.43 | karl_w_w | that's it really |
| 16:07.44 | amro | ^ |
| 16:07.45 | amro | x2 |
| 16:08.02 | airtonix | dusf_: therefore the conclusion is ? |
| 16:08.09 | Dagmar | Memory speed differences are going to matter if you do stuff that maps a shitload of different memory regions, constantly, like a database |
| 16:08.16 | amro | airtonix: when you tune in next time |
| 16:08.32 | Lunessa | For example, putting WoW on a smaller SSD is the single best speed/performance enhancement I've ever had while playing the game. |
| 16:09.00 | Dagmar | Umm... a _fast_ SSD |
| 16:09.01 | karl_w_w | getting off a damn laptop was mine :P |
| 16:09.11 | Dagmar | There's some slow-as-crap ones out there. |
| 16:09.14 | clever | for me, just putting a proper sata drive in my laptop helped |
| 16:09.19 | clever | it was on a pata drive in the cdrom bay |
| 16:09.28 | karl_w_w | lovely |
| 16:09.52 | airtonix | karl_w_w: get a real laptop |
| 16:09.58 | airtonix | karl_w_w: macs don't count |
| 16:09.59 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I used one of the 60gb Intel ones that were shipping last year. it's been a pretty sweet deal for me. |
| 16:10.17 | Dagmar | Yeah we've got one here that's basically a shitty thumbdrive in SATA factor |
| 16:10.35 | Dagmar | I was like, "Wait, it's giving *what* throughput? 10mb/s?" |
| 16:10.36 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Ugh. |
| 16:10.54 | clever | i think the FS cache in ram also helps |
| 16:11.07 | clever | even if the game cant use all that ram, the os can cache the data files |
| 16:11.08 | Dagmar | A nice two-disk striping can help, assuming you've got them around |
| 16:11.16 | Dagmar | clever: Umm... no. |
| 16:11.24 | Dagmar | clever: The WoW client is way too big to cache in RAM |
| 16:11.44 | Dagmar | If you've got 48Gb of RAM on your machine, wtf are you doing playing WoW on it |
| 16:11.45 | karl_w_w | get 32 gb :P |
| 16:11.55 | amro | I haven't had performance issues in wow for a long time |
| 16:11.57 | Lunessa | Another place I got a nice little boost (pre-SSD) was using ReadyBoost under Windows 7 - because the flash memory on the USB drive was still pretty fast compared to normal disk i/o |
| 16:12.02 | amro | what kind of shit boxes are you guys running? |
| 16:12.03 | clever | not the whole thing, but small parts of it |
| 16:12.16 | Maldivia | ackis, you got your mining info? |
| 16:12.35 | clever | Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2300 @ 1.66GHz dual core, 3gig ram |
| 16:12.35 | amro | he got his minor info from sc |
| 16:12.52 | karl_w_w | my fps drops to ~7 on things like zonozz dark phase and ultraxion towards the end |
| 16:13.05 | karl_w_w | on 25 man |
| 16:13.13 | karl_w_w | but thats all cpu |
| 16:13.28 | clever | Dagmar: i was monitoring wow FS access a few months ago, and i noticed something very nasty |
| 16:13.39 | clever | Dagmar: it writes to the saved variable files, one byte at a time |
| 16:13.45 | Dagmar | So what |
| 16:13.59 | clever | that explains why shutdown took 5-10minutes over samba |
| 16:13.59 | Lunessa | old news. |
| 16:14.03 | karl_w_w | it only writes when u log out or reload ui |
| 16:14.16 | karl_w_w | who cares how long that takes :P |
| 16:14.27 | clever | what if it was a random server disconnect? |
| 16:14.34 | clever | it wont tell you for 10 minutes! |
| 16:14.44 | karl_w_w | it also wont write anything |
| 16:15.38 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure both you and the client are going to notice the disconnection before 10 minutes are up |
| 16:15.46 | clever | when i'm trying to do the oozes in dragon soul, i usualy get 0.5 fps or less |
| 16:15.56 | Dagmar | If your shutdown takes 10 minutes over Samba, something else is wrong. |
| 16:16.14 | clever | it feels like sync mode is on, and its forcing a flush after every byte |
| 16:16.24 | Dagmar | Stop using christmas tinsel as network media |
| 16:16.37 | clever | 100mbit at the time |
| 16:17.45 | dusf_ | dusf: yes, the bottleneck being my hdd would make sense - lots of hard drive trashing going on! |
| 16:18.09 | dusf_ | Dagmar: what are 15s? |
| 16:18.22 | clever | Dagmar: the problem with 10 minute shutdowns, is that i cant tell if its disconnected (and shutting down) or just plain locked up |
| 16:18.35 | dusf_ | Lunessa: yeah, my next build will definitely have an ssd |
| 16:18.42 | Dagmar | dusf: About how long it takes me to zone, sometimes. |
| 16:18.52 | Dagmar | When the moon is in the proper phase |
| 16:19.04 | Dagmar | The RAM speed is not going to affect WoW to a degree you'll notice |
| 16:19.39 | dusf_ | Dagmar: i get the same, if not worse |
| 16:19.47 | dusf_ | just started playing on windows again after playing on linux for years |
| 16:20.01 | dusf_ | the fps diffeence is amazing, 160fps in some zones, max on linux was 60fps |
| 16:20.11 | dusf_ | and i did do all the tweaking at winehq etc |
| 16:20.34 | clever | i'm getting 30fps right now in wine |
| 16:20.49 | clever | the map viewer (not an acurate comparison) gets 200 fps |
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| 16:22.41 | amro | anything over your refresh rate is meaningless |
| 16:22.55 | clever | i know, i modified the map viewer to limit it to ~30fps |
| 16:23.20 | clever | now it doesnt pegg the cpu at 100% usage |
| 16:23.39 | clever | but wow still peggs the cpu every time |
| 16:24.38 | karl_w_w | amro: wrong |
| 16:25.17 | amro | we've been over this in this channel already |
| 16:25.28 | amro | a bottleneck at 80fps might not appear at 40fps |
| 16:25.31 | karl_w_w | but u should have vsync on anyway in most cases anyway so it wont go over refresh |
| 16:25.37 | amro | any measurements over that are not meaningful |
| 16:27.30 | dusf_ | amro why is it meaningless over refresh - hmmm because it does not refresh enough to appreciate each new frame? |
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| 16:28.05 | amro | for starters because it won't even be shown on the screen, so why waste energy? and second because bottlenecks vary |
| 16:28.25 | amro | a change that gets you from 90fps to 140fps might have absolutely no effect for someone at 55fps |
| 16:28.34 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes. One for me, one for Seerah. http://cdnimg.visualizeus.com/thumbs/e2/36/gnomes-e236cff62cd52e8b0e6f404ab20a077a_m.jpg |
| 16:28.35 | amro | so there's no point in even talking about it |
| 16:29.09 | dusf_ | i see |
| 16:29.22 | dusf_ | thing is i can get 30fps in really busy places, but 160fps at others |
| 16:29.36 | dusf_ | that's with low graphics though. still don't want to change graphics all the time - best solution to just leave low? |
| 16:29.56 | dusf_ | if i start raising it busy areas could drop to 20 fps or 10 fps |
| 16:30.01 | amro | depends on what your bottleneck is in busy places |
| 16:31.02 | clever | id like to improve on my fps in raids, its hard to do anything when my framerates go under 2 |
| 16:31.11 | Lunessa | now I want waffles. Thanks alestane! |
| 16:31.13 | clever | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] (rev a1) |
| 16:31.36 | dusf_ | amro: you mean max fps i get in busy places or? |
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| 16:31.48 | pompy1 | http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/science/eb0a/?pfm=Carousel_eb0a_PotatOS_2 |
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| 16:32.14 | amro | dusf_: I mean what actually causes your fps to go down |
| 16:32.38 | amro | sometiems it's an effect you can turn off, and just leave everything else high |
| 16:32.41 | amro | it depends on a lot of things |
| 16:32.48 | amro | but chances are it's probably just an old video card you should upgrade |
| 16:32.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, god, you two are evil. I'm having empanadas for lunch. Now I want IHOP instead. |
| 16:33.41 | Shirik | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 16:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Shirik. Hoppy Holly Daze to you, since you do all that traveling and I'm not sure when I'll see you to say it. |
| 16:36.24 | dusf_ | amro: i have a hd radeon 4650 a few weeks old, much older cpu e4400 core 2 duo 1.8gz with 1gb of ram |
| 16:37.15 | Dagmar | On general principle just taking into account upgrades going forward, you probably *do* want to buy the highest speed RAM your CPU can handle (and not put it in a motherboard htat can't handle it) |
| 16:38.27 | amro | on general principle get an i7 already |
| 16:38.37 | Shirik | on general principle get an i9 |
| 16:38.52 | amro | on general principle you're not allowed to talk you get free upgrades at work |
| 16:39.13 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:39.52 | Shirik | I still can't get into tor though :( |
| 16:40.26 | Cide | is it that boring |
| 16:40.53 | Shirik | actually it's quite interesting |
| 16:40.54 | amro | that's how they know you didn't sell the drone to the iranians |
| 16:40.57 | amro | or did you? |
| 16:40.57 | Shirik | someone else put it really well |
| 16:41.11 | Shirik | by level 4 I was more into the quest line than I was by level 85 in wow |
| 16:41.17 | Shirik | instead of being a wall of text you actually get into the game |
| 16:41.51 | amro | when did you first pick up wow Shirik? |
| 16:42.25 | Shirik | a very long time ago |
| 16:42.43 | Dagmar | By level 4 I was being told my ship was stolen. |
| 16:43.10 | BlueAckisFishMan | todays cracked is pretty good: http://www.cracked.com/article_19578_5-most-badass-soldiers-ever-happened-to-be-dogs.html |
| 16:43.17 | amro | Shirik: I mean what expansion |
| 16:43.55 | Shirik | vanilla |
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| 16:47.46 | Cide | I play wow to fight raid bosses though |
| 16:47.49 | Cide | not to get into the story |
| 16:48.49 | amro | I play wow to cyber in deeprun tram |
| 16:48.53 | amro | nowadays, it's REALLY private |
| 16:49.01 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't Nessie interrupt you, amro? |
| 16:49.11 | amro | what's a nessie? |
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| 16:50.28 | Lopeppeppy | ... I guess you're really into your cybering down there, if you've never seen Nessie swim by. |
| 16:50.49 | Lopeppeppy | We held our holiday party down there one time, just to wait and catch a glimpse of her. :) |
| 16:51.12 | Shirik | ... |
| 16:51.26 | amro | I just couldn't get over the fact that it runs east-west |
| 16:52.01 | Cide | nah |
| 16:52.15 | Cide | the tram itself generates an electromagnetic field that messes up the in-game compass |
| 16:52.21 | Lopeppeppy | no it doesn't, it runs through a dimension-space-time warp. The Tinker built it, you expect to understand it? |
| 16:52.31 | amro | says the guy who's not in it for the lore |
| 16:52.39 | Cide | it's not lore |
| 16:52.43 | Cide | it's physics |
| 16:53.13 | amro | don't even go there |
| 16:53.46 | Cide | already did |
| 16:53.59 | amro | then come back |
| 16:55.10 | airtonix | umad? |
| 16:56.09 | Lopeppeppy | "Makin' shit up" isn't lore, it's just not being bothered by the little things. :) |
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| 17:34.36 | foxlit | gr, trees |
| 17:35.59 | foxlit | Suppose I wanted to do a search/replace on an XML document |
| 17:36.47 | foxlit | with evil nested tags like: <div>One <div>Two <div>Three</div> </div> </div> |
| 17:37.44 | foxlit | Ideally, I'd like to write something that'd take a function which would examine a given <div> tag and return the replacement if needed, but that structure is annoying. :( |
| 17:53.44 | Lunessa | foxlit: Sounds like someone used a WYSISYG XML editor to create the document in the first place. |
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| 18:18.58 | dusf_ | amro: would it make sense for me to do a set "maxfps" 75 to match my refresh rate? |
| 18:19.12 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: What You See Is Shit You Get? |
| 18:19.25 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Bingo |
| 18:20.27 | nicoli_s | foxlit:youd be better off writing an app that traversed it as an xml documentand did it that way |
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| 18:22.39 | dusf_ | can anyone tell me what the console key is called in bindings? i don't see one for it |
| 18:23.13 | Arrowmaster | there isnt afaik |
| 18:23.44 | Lunessa | the console isn't enabled by default, so there's no visible binding. But if you run wow with the -console switch, then it's ~ |
| 18:23.46 | dusf_ | but doesn't tilde do it? |
| 18:24.04 | dusf_ | i'm on enGB keyboard, the key under escape is ` |
| 18:24.29 | dusf_ | which i have rebound to shoot |
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| 18:26.03 | dusf_ | typing /console maxfps 75 seems to do it |
| 18:26.21 | Lunessa | that wasn't' what you asked though |
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| 18:31.48 | amro | dusf_: yes |
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| 18:45.19 | dusf_ | Lunessa: i know :) |
| 18:51.19 | dusf_ | Lunessa: is your name from the celtic festival? |
| 18:51.19 | foxlit | nicoli_s: Lunessa: it's not actually XML; I just have a structure with open/close markers that enclose content. |
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| 18:52.26 | Lunessa | dusf_: No, it was made up to be feminine and derivative of Luna - for a Night Elf priestess. |
| 18:52.36 | Lunessa | foxlit: Ah |
| 18:52.48 | dusf_ | cool |
| 18:53.51 | Lunessa | And when I joined this channel, my preferred nick was taken so I used the name I used to post on the UI&M forum so people could identify me. |
| 18:54.13 | Lunessa | Which resulted in far fewer death threats than anticipated. |
| 18:56.58 | Seerah | threatens Lunessa |
| 18:57.09 | Lunessa | with cookies I bet. |
| 18:57.16 | Seerah | I still need to do my baking... :( |
| 18:57.24 | Seerah | want to come help us eat them? :D |
| 18:57.29 | Lunessa | mmmm… nom nom nom |
| 18:57.48 | Lunessa | Long drive. |
| 18:57.58 | Seerah | Wayne requested peanut butter cookies with hershey kisses and I'm making pinwheels |
| 18:57.58 | kd3 | but... cookies! it's worth it |
| 18:58.01 | Seerah | (forme) |
| 18:58.19 | Seerah | **(for me) |
| 18:58.21 | Lunessa | Seerah cookies. And they has many pets which are not parakeets. |
| 18:58.38 | Seerah | and then you'd be halfway to kd3's place and he can bake you more cookies! |
| 18:58.50 | Seerah | yes. My pets would eat your parakeet :p |
| 18:59.11 | Lunessa | So what you're saying is I should drive 14 hours and crash on your couch until you can't stand me, then do the same to KD3? |
| 18:59.27 | kd3 | lol |
| 18:59.28 | Seerah | nah, not the couch. We has a guest room with really nice futon |
| 18:59.39 | Lunessa | Oh sweet. And cookies. |
| 18:59.48 | Seerah | and goggies |
| 18:59.57 | kd3 | no guest room here, you'd get the couch. rather uncomfortable to sleep on |
| 19:00.02 | Lunessa | Wait, why am I not already in the car? |
| 19:00.15 | TC-Away | thats good kd3, make him feel welcome |
| 19:00.16 | Lunessa | Oh yeah… work. |
| 19:00.42 | Seerah | Thunder_Child: I think he wants to send him packing back my way faster :p |
| 19:00.52 | Lunessa | I think that was the point. |
| 19:01.23 | Seerah | oh, but you could stop by Dagmar's on the way ;) |
| 19:01.36 | Lunessa | Nah, he's likely to shoot on sight. |
| 19:01.43 | Lunessa | Or make me go to a rave. |
| 19:01.47 | Lunessa | Or pull cables. |
| 19:01.47 | Dagmar | Not if your name is Ryan |
| 19:02.09 | Seerah | I can visit without getting shot? :) |
| 19:02.15 | Dagmar | People whose name is Ryan get a nice dinner because they're cute |
| 19:02.20 | Cairenn | And after you are done visiting them, you can head along to Alestanes, then Loppeppies, then my place! |
| 19:02.31 | Seerah | that's kinda out of the way :p |
| 19:02.37 | Seerah | plus he'd need his passport |
| 19:02.42 | Lunessa | So, I need.. hrm… about 2-3 months off from work. |
| 19:02.50 | Thunder_Child | sounds like a road trip to me |
| 19:02.51 | Seerah | then he may as well go full circle and pass by Esamynn|Away :) |
| 19:02.51 | Cairenn | What, visiting me isn't worth it? :`( |
| 19:02.57 | Dagmar | Also, there are no raves here anymore, which means I may have to get a damn gym membership soon |
| 19:03.04 | Arrowmaster | is glad nobody noticed hes along that route |
| 19:03.06 | Seerah | he may take you to a country bar |
| 19:03.10 | Dagmar | HAHAHH no. |
| 19:03.14 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:03.18 | Lunessa | Canada is generous and would let me in. :) They've forgotten all about the /last/ time I visited by now. :) |
| 19:03.34 | Seerah | you don't want to go to Coyote Ugly? ;) |
| 19:04.24 | Lunessa | So I can get hosed down at the bar? |
| 19:04.29 | Seerah | Lunessa would probably enjoy it ;) |
| 19:05.10 | Lunessa | I'm a bad man, it's true. I like dive bars and good liquor. |
| 19:05.36 | Seerah | and ladies dancing on the bar in short shorts. |
| 19:05.42 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 19:05.55 | Lunessa | Um, naturally! |
| 19:06.10 | Dagmar | Coyote Ugly is for people too scared to go into a strip club |
| 19:06.21 | CityOfTheTrees | or too cheap |
| 19:06.26 | Seerah | my brother and sister-in-law tell me it's too full of tourists |
| 19:06.31 | Lunessa | makes no comment. |
| 19:06.40 | CityOfTheTrees | i have been to coyote ugly in nashville |
| 19:06.55 | Seerah | yeah, that's the one we're talking about |
| 19:07.07 | CityOfTheTrees | yeah, you live near there? |
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| 19:07.22 | Seerah | I am in Memphis, myself |
| 19:07.36 | CityOfTheTrees | ah, my brother lives near nashville and soon my mother too |
| 19:07.53 | sylvanaar_work | i go down there a lot |
| 19:07.56 | Seerah | oh, now I know who I'm talking to :P |
| 19:07.59 | sylvanaar_work | hehe |
| 19:08.43 | Lunessa | I haven't been to Nashville since … 1992 |
| 19:08.54 | Dagmar | Lunessa: This is good plan you have |
| 19:08.55 | Seerah | my sister-in-law did her masters at Vandy. Now they live in Antioch |
| 19:09.01 | sylvanaar_work | anyone in the channel speak arabic? |
| 19:09.17 | Lunessa | I was there last to sell stuff to people at a Star Trek event. |
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| 19:10.45 | Arrowmaster | a star trek event in nashville? |
| 19:10.52 | Lunessa | in 1992 |
| 19:10.56 | nicoli_s | thats not too far away |
| 19:11.03 | Lunessa | Mirina Sirtis was the guest of honor. |
| 19:11.16 | Lunessa | And I hauled off a nice chuck of change. |
| 19:11.24 | Lunessa | Not bad for a recession year. |
| 19:11.27 | Dagmar | I *suppose* MTAC probably counts |
| 19:11.41 | Dagmar | They just need a dress code there, badly. |
| 19:12.10 | Dagmar | If you're under 18, you MUST be wearing at _least_ one square yard of fabric. |
| 19:12.23 | Lunessa | lol |
| 19:12.51 | Dagmar | I had to work a table there a few years ago passing out flyers for PhreakNIC and after about 30 minutes I just buried my head in my laptop and din't look up anymore. |
| 19:12.51 | Fisker | Mirina Sirtis is a stupid name |
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| 19:13.44 | Dagmar | IIRC the year before last they had the balls to put "Risque Cosplay" on their flyers. I couldn't believe it. |
| 19:13.53 | Lunessa | Dagmar: That is strangely reminiscent of my trip. |
| 19:14.10 | Dagmar | I've had HATS that involved more fabric than some of the costumes I've seen there. |
| 19:14.43 | Lunessa | Dotz a nize hat. |
| 19:17.51 | Lunessa | I wore a fedora to work this morning. |
| 19:19.51 | pompy1 | http://gamerant.com/skyrim-online-multiplayer-mod-sales-records-robk-121763/ :O |
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| 19:28.05 | dusf_ | Arrowmaster: i know star trek is the height of culture, but people from nashville are A-OK |
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| 19:31.36 | Lunessa | Sure they are. But you always find fault with the people around you. |
| 19:33.03 | dusf_ | i like to find fault with those around me and those at a distance |
| 19:33.03 | Fisker | BlueAckisFishMan |
| 19:33.07 | Fisker | what the fuck are you doing? |
| 19:33.16 | dusf_ | not everyone has my multitasking skills though ofc |
| 19:33.55 | Lunessa | I hate everyone - almost - equally. |
| 19:34.02 | Fisker | ok Lunessa |
| 19:34.19 | Lunessa | I just make an exception for Fisker. |
| 19:40.40 | BlueAckisFishMan | what do you mean Fisker? |
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| 19:58.32 | dusf_ | hehe |
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| 20:18.40 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:39.09 | Thunder_Child | i hate food comas |
| 20:39.17 | Thunder_Child | so....tired.... |
| 20:44.30 | pompy1 | http://act.boldprogressives.org/survey/survey_sopa_reddit/?source=fbs-victory |
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| 21:24.26 | Fisker | omg Stanzilla |
| 21:24.34 | Fisker | i came |
| 21:25.46 | Lopeppeppy | Be good, Fisker, until I come back on Monday. Or no shrimp for you. |
| 21:25.55 | Stanzilla | Fisker: wut |
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| 21:42.02 | Fisker | i wonder why the enrage timer on heroic morchok is 7 minutes Stanzilla |
| 21:42.24 | Fisker | 6 dps should be more than able to take down the boss in like 4-5 minutes |
| 21:42.24 | Stanzilla | so you don't kite him for ages |
| 21:42.36 | Stanzilla | yeah, get's closer if you 4heal it |
| 21:42.49 | Cide | 2-healing it is fucking terrifying |
| 21:43.45 | Fisker | how so? |
| 21:44.06 | Fisker | I thought Blizzard was done making encounters that basically required you into taking more of a certain spec to one specific fight? |
| 21:44.07 | Cide | takes insane amounts of hps when you get stomp -> crystal -> stomp back to back |
| 21:44.08 | Fisker | >:3's |
| 21:45.05 | Cide | I don't know if it was designed to be 2-healed or not |
| 21:45.13 | Cide | designing it to be 3-healed seems odd since you need to split up |
| 21:45.27 | Cide | but I haven't seen a fight designed to be 4-healed before so who knows |
| 21:45.47 | Fisker | could probably be done 2-healer if you had the right amount of gear |
| 21:45.56 | Fisker | but they should leave the enrage timer to be lower then |
| 21:46.09 | Cide | I was the worst geared healer in our group |
| 21:46.25 | Cide | and my heal set is 384? or so |
| 21:46.44 | Cide | I think holy pallies have an easier time than the other healers though |
| 21:46.53 | Cide | so maybe it's more realistic with two of those |
| 21:48.49 | Cide | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/12/microsofts-new-automatic-update-plan-could-finally-spell-the-end-of-ie6.ars |
| 21:49.16 | Cide | fucking china |
| 21:49.19 | Cide | 28% use ie6 |
| 21:49.38 | Lunessa | That reads like this "Blah blah blah - FINALLY killing IE 6. You're welcome. And we're sorry." |
| 21:50.24 | Cide | I wonder if microsoft's web team that maintains their websites hates ie6 as much as the rest of the world does |
| 21:50.54 | Cide | or even more hopefully |
| 21:51.00 | Fisker | athink most of their sites already don't support IE6 |
| 21:51.02 | Fisker | think* |
| 22:05.03 | Fisker | Stanzilla pls |
| 22:05.50 | Stanzilla | hi |
| 22:06.55 | Fisker | too late |
| 22:06.55 | Fisker | dick |
| 22:06.58 | Stanzilla | Fisker: us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657444001?page=1 |
| 22:06.59 | Stanzilla | dork |
| 22:14.58 | Fisker | i hate yor'sahj Stanzilla |
| 22:15.03 | Stanzilla | easy in 10m |
| 22:15.18 | Fisker | maybe |
| 22:15.20 | Fisker | but i'm tired |
| 22:17.02 | Stanzilla | =( |
| 22:20.55 | Lunessa | take ze nap. then fire ze missiles. |
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| 22:23.43 | Arrowmaster | kd3: http://imgur.com/a/aQzge#23 |
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| 23:04.09 | karl_w_w | yor'sahj is horribly easy |
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| 23:06.05 | Stanzilla | (in 10m) |
| 23:08.57 | nebula169 | german flag will be the death of me |
| 23:09.58 | nebula169 | back to back to back black red yellow ;[ |
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| 23:27.46 | BlackNet | as in the world map |
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