| 00:00.36 | Gagorian | actually that's a bad description, I blame wikipedia |
| 00:01.59 | nicoli_s | dark tower |
| 00:07.01 | Dagmar | Quite often there's hallucinations, too. |
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| 00:13.44 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 00:13.45 | Fisker | you still up? |
| 00:23.04 | Wobin | Xinhuan: Save me from http://www.wowace.com/addons/mr-plow/tickets/45-mrplow-randomly-restacks-items-without-user-input/ |
| 00:23.28 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 00:23.29 | Wobin | (ie, save me from people who think they know my code better than I do, and tell me I'm stupid |
| 00:23.31 | Wobin | ) |
| 00:23.41 | Dagmar | Make it a configurable option. |
| 00:23.43 | Dagmar | :) |
| 00:23.44 | Wobin | ^ |
| 00:24.03 | Wobin | punches Zidomo in the face. |
| 00:24.17 | Wobin | "I've gone through this sort of thing before in my RL job." |
| 00:24.31 | Wobin | WHY MUST YOU BE SO CONDESCENDING? |
| 00:24.44 | Wobin | puts on his PHB wig |
| 00:25.04 | Dagmar | Tell him to call a poultergeist specialist in. |
| 00:25.17 | Xinhuan | i've had bug reports from hhim before |
| 00:25.41 | Wobin | Why of course, I'll just have Mr Plow check the call stack each time he's called. AND TRACE IT BACK TO CHECK THAT SETTINGS ON ANOTHER ADDON ARE TO HIS LIKING |
| 00:25.52 | Cide | yes Wobin |
| 00:25.55 | Cide | why not do that? |
| 00:26.03 | Cide | I have gone through this sort of thing before |
| 00:26.10 | Cide | and from seeing quite a few bugs in my time |
| 00:26.21 | Dagmar | No, I'd just add configuration box that says "Randomly restack things" and make it so you can never turn off the checkbox. |
| 00:26.21 | Wobin | you can tell by the pixels? =) |
| 00:26.34 | Dagmar | Then it's a "feature" which has a minor GUI bug. |
| 00:26.39 | Wobin | haha |
| 00:26.43 | Xinhuan | btw |
| 00:26.52 | Xinhuan | how should i be calling/checking with mrplow? |
| 00:27.27 | Wobin | lemme check |
| 00:27.51 | Xinhuan | currently, it is just checking if the addon is loaded, if it is, i check for MrPlow.DoStuff and if it exists, call it with "stack", else check for ParseInventory() and call it |
| 00:28.02 | Wobin | the first is fine |
| 00:28.25 | Wobin | shouldn't need the backcompat anymore |
| 00:28.40 | Xinhuan | and that's all i'm doing |
| 00:28.46 | Wobin | (of course, saying that is going against the whole concept of backwards compatability) |
| 00:29.12 | Wobin | I think Zidomo wants a toggle |
| 00:29.43 | Xinhuan | http://www.wowace.com/paste/4306/ |
| 00:29.54 | Xinhuan | that code is called at the end of opening/returning selected mail, as well as OpenAll |
| 00:30.38 | Xinhuan | if that is triggering a restack, it would be weird |
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| 00:31.00 | Xinhuan | if you said the code is fine lol |
| 00:31.04 | Wobin | yeah |
| 00:31.15 | Wobin | it's apparently triggering when OpenAll is disabled |
| 00:31.32 | Wobin | but checkmarking and hitting Return |
| 00:31.36 | Wobin | will trigger it |
| 00:31.47 | Xinhuan | that's correct, i have a normal "open/return selected mails" that is in a module called Select |
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| 00:32.21 | Xinhuan | and at the end of opening all selected mails (say the user has 30 out of 50 checkboxes ticked), it will call that code too |
| 00:32.30 | Xinhuan | or returning all selected mails |
| 00:32.32 | Wobin | but basically, I think he wants the autostacking to be a toggleable option |
| 00:33.15 | Xinhuan | ya, so is it my end that should provide the option? lol |
| 00:33.21 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 00:33.35 | Wobin | I can't change the functionality without breaking it |
| 00:33.49 | Xinhuan | since like you said, you can't control when i call your function |
| 00:34.01 | Wobin | trains MrPlow to only understand Latvian |
| 00:34.12 | Dagmar | He could do that callback check thing |
| 00:34.45 | Dagmar | ...and then maybe move all the purples into one bag and close it. |
| 00:34.48 | Wobin | if I did that, I'd make it so it checks if it's actually Zidomo's character |
| 00:34.54 | Wobin | Then pop up a message box |
| 00:35.01 | Wobin | ARE YOU SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO RESTACK?! |
| 00:35.06 | Wobin | I CAN DO IT REALLY WELL! |
| 00:35.25 | Dagmar | You could make it pretend to restack his mail. ;) |
| 00:35.41 | Dagmar | That would be relatively harmless, and quite hilarious |
| 00:36.18 | Dagmar | "OMG now it's stacking my mailbox? How do you even do that..." |
| 00:36.25 | Dagmar | "It doesn't do that for me. Are you sure?" |
| 00:36.36 | Wobin | "Mr Plow visits your wife while you're out of the house" |
| 00:36.42 | Dagmar | Oh yeah |
| 00:37.31 | Xinhuan | is there any options in plow i should be checking for |
| 00:37.40 | Wobin | none |
| 00:37.48 | Xinhuan | kk |
| 00:38.04 | Wobin | hugs Xinhuan |
| 00:38.55 | Xinhuan | there i posted a reply |
| 00:39.32 | Xinhuan | (updated comment) |
| 00:40.11 | Xinhuan | i'm not sure if users can continue to reply if a ticket is closed heh |
| 00:42.47 | Wobin | Xinhuan: oh they can =( |
| 00:44.26 | Ycarene | Anyone know how I would deal with errors with mmoui minion? |
| 00:45.10 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:46.34 | Ycarene | "Error: Could not create directories in required path for '/tmp/extraxtorxxxxx" the x's change every time and only seems to happen with robbossmods. |
| 00:46.55 | Cairenn | hrm, Shirik ^^ |
| 00:48.03 | Ycarene | Or am I SOL because of the os I use? |
| 00:49.48 | Ycarene | I'm guessing it might be on my side, but I wanted to see if anyone knew what that might be or have a fix. |
| 00:50.02 | Xinhuan | i assume you have enough free disk space :P |
| 00:50.12 | Ycarene | 74gb |
| 00:50.22 | Ycarene | I cleared out a bunch of stuff in /tmp too |
| 00:50.29 | Xinhuan | yesterday i was patching wow |
| 00:50.42 | Xinhuan | and i saw my free hd space (where wow is installed) dwindle down to 200 mb lol |
| 00:51.24 | pompy | http://www.counter-strike.net/index.php/2011/11/csgo-or-go-home/ |
| 00:52.03 | Ycarene | Or should I just give up and blow my os install away? |
| 00:53.17 | Xinhuan | i would suggest to try deleting that addon from your wow addon's folder |
| 00:53.20 | Xinhuan | and try again |
| 00:53.28 | Ycarene | Done that. |
| 00:54.02 | Ycarene | I set the entirety of the wow and interface folders to 777 in permissions too. |
| 00:54.10 | Arrowmaster | is it just one addon? |
| 00:54.15 | Xinhuan | does it have more than 1 folder? |
| 00:54.44 | Xinhuan | for example, bigwigs comes with multiple addon folders, one for each dungeon |
| 00:54.55 | Ycarene | Arrowmaster seems that way but there appears to be other addons with different errors. |
| 00:57.13 | Ycarene | Mostly "Error updating modnamehere: ID:xxxx is not valid or removed" |
| 01:00.16 | Ycarene | I mean, it's not a big deal, I can do it manually, but it's nice to be able to do it through minion. |
| 01:03.42 | Cairenn | Unfortunately I'm not sure, Shirik really is the best one to ask. |
| 01:03.59 | Ycarene | Meh, not a big deal for me, just thought I'd bring it up. |
| 01:04.15 | Cairenn | Appreciate that :) |
| 01:06.59 | Torhal | I'd like to use Minion as well. |
| 01:07.06 | Torhal | :( |
| 01:09.51 | Ycarene | I wish I could get curse client to work with my os |
| 01:09.56 | pompy | "The Fall of Deathwing is not open just yet for the Raid Finder or Heroic. We plan to open this encounter up in approximately one week. We felt it was important to let more people get through the fights in normal difficulty, make videos, strat guides, update their mods, etc. "... "update their mods" heh |
| 01:11.18 | foreplay | is their a way to specify what gets removed from a table with table.remove by using the actual table entry |
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| 01:11.55 | foreplay | like say i had names = { "john", "joe", "jack", "jim" } and i wanted to remove "joe" |
| 01:12.09 | foreplay | would i just have to loop through the table to get its position then remove |
| 01:12.12 | foreplay | or? |
| 01:12.48 | pompy | Arrowmaster: 9 MB update to ACR i just got... hopefully that fixed the money earning bug |
| 01:13.13 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember if i got that lastnight or today |
| 01:13.56 | Torhal | Ycarene: If you use Linux, you can try CC3 under Wine |
| 01:14.13 | Ycarene | Torhal - naah |
| 01:14.30 | Torhal | That's what I was using until I got my Mac |
| 01:14.42 | Ycarene | Torhal - I'm pretty happy with minion and doing the other stuff manually, I'm just kinda bitching to bitch, so sorry about that. :P |
| 01:14.49 | Torhal | Heh |
| 01:14.55 | Xinhuan | yes foreplay |
| 01:15.12 | Torhal | Xinhuan: I completely missed the fact that you were responding to someone. |
| 01:15.13 | foreplay | ah so i cant just use the tbale entrys name itself |
| 01:15.14 | Xinhuan | loop over it, get the position index, and table.remove(t, index) |
| 01:15.21 | Xinhuan | nope, you can't |
| 01:15.25 | Xinhuan | unless the table is setup that way |
| 01:15.36 | foreplay | hmm |
| 01:15.37 | Xinhuan | i.e t["john"] = true |
| 01:15.38 | mckenziemc | you could, however, write your own function to do it! |
| 01:15.39 | Xinhuan | i.e t["john"] = nil |
| 01:15.48 | Xinhuan | that woudl add it/remove it |
| 01:16.09 | Arrowmaster | table.remove implys its an array |
| 01:16.10 | Xinhuan | but their ordering would be undefined |
| 01:16.19 | Xinhuan | in such an array that is |
| 01:16.38 | Xinhuan | right now, your current table is arranged in a defined order with the indexes from 1 to N |
| 01:16.52 | mckenziemc | Arrowmaster: his suggestion implies changing the code to not use an array |
| 01:16.56 | Xinhuan | rather than string indexes |
| 01:16.58 | Ycarene | Anyone else run WoW in *nix/BSD? |
| 01:17.22 | Torhal | Ycarene: I did until January. |
| 01:17.27 | Torhal | Linux. |
| 01:17.51 | Torhal | Now I'm on a Mac, so technically BSD |
| 01:17.59 | Arrowmaster | i did for about a year but i didnt really play much during that eyar |
| 01:18.00 | Arrowmaster | year |
| 01:18.31 | Ycarene | I'm thinking of moving from Xubuntu to mint, though I don't want to have to re-set up my desktop. |
| 01:18.55 | Torhal | This is why I always used a /home partition |
| 01:19.01 | Dagmar | Torhal++ |
| 01:19.29 | Ycarene | Torhal - Well, yeah, but there's a lot of cruft in there that might not necessarily transfer over well. |
| 01:20.04 | Arrowmaster | mint is really looking nice with what theyve done to make gnome3 usable and provide alternatives |
| 01:20.11 | Arrowmaster | but ill still stick with debian |
| 01:24.32 | durcyn | debian is for weenies, nyeh nyeh |
| 01:25.07 | Ycarene | Nah, no gnome 3 for me, I'm just not sure I like *buntu's fast upgrade path. |
| 01:25.14 | Ycarene | I prefer XFCE |
| 01:26.06 | Arrowmaster | i prefer gnome2 |
| 01:27.01 | Jamash | xubuntu is win |
| 01:27.32 | Jamash | six months is too fast? |
| 01:28.35 | bluspacecow | http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/12/3-guys-18-million-blocks-one-unbelievable-minecraft-video |
| 01:29.32 | Ycarene | Jamash - I know I don't have to upgrade every time, but some repositories maintainers only release for the latest release and it means I have to upgrade my os to get any updates from them. |
| 01:30.08 | Jamash | I wish it was faster |
| 01:30.16 | mckenziemc | two bluspacecows one url? |
| 01:30.54 | Ycarene | Jamash - Why's that? |
| 01:31.10 | Jamash | old software is old |
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| 01:31.17 | Jamash | like, for example, mono |
| 01:31.36 | Arrowmaster | mono is dead |
| 01:32.14 | Jamash | was trying to run a terraria server but the version of mono in ubuntu was months out of date |
| 01:33.05 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 01:33.17 | Ycarene | Hell, if mono were more up to date, I wouldn't have problems getting the curse client to run. |
| 01:33.57 | Arrowmaster | mono will never be able to run the current curse client |
| 01:34.07 | bluspacecow | oh great |
| 01:34.15 | bluspacecow | the new car park down by our work is operational |
| 01:34.15 | Ycarene | Why's that? |
| 01:34.29 | bluspacecow | it has like a total of 6 traffic lights for a simple turn onto one street |
| 01:34.42 | Arrowmaster | because it uses features that the mono devs had no intention of ever implementing |
| 01:36.39 | Fisker | bluspacecow :( |
| 01:37.17 | durcyn | the problem is that the gnomne devs can't make up their mind if they want their shitty UI to look like a 1987 macintosh or a 1993 windows ripoff |
| 01:39.05 | Ycarene | I'd love to use Enlightenment, 'cause it's purdy and fast, but it's also buggy and seems to crash a lot. |
| 01:39.33 | Raimondas | GNOME 3 converted me back to KDE. :) |
| 01:39.54 | Ycarene | Both KDE and Gnomes are hogs, especially the latest versions. |
| 01:40.18 | mckenziemc | oink |
| 01:40.19 | Arrowmaster | im stuck with gnome 3.0 right now, i should rpobably upgrade to 3.2 soon |
| 01:40.20 | Raimondas | Oh sure, I agree, but they're doing a lot of stuff. So... |
| 01:40.32 | Jamash | gnome and kde both want to be windows |
| 01:40.41 | Raimondas | Besides, what else am I going to use my 16GB of RAM for? :) |
| 01:40.56 | Jamash | I want linux, so I avoid both like the plague |
| 01:41.24 | Raimondas | Haha, I feel you. I have one desktop full of nothing but terminals |
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| 01:53.20 | Jamash | when did linux distributions become jenga towers? |
| 01:54.31 | Jamash | now there are distributions that are based on a variant of ubuntu which is based on the ubuntu core which is based on debian... |
| 01:54.45 | Jamash | it's turtles all the way down |
| 01:54.47 | Fisker | is that a umadbro? |
| 01:55.07 | Jamash | more like perplexed |
| 01:57.47 | bluspacecow | drinky poos http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnxmlrd4rT1qzb5qyo1_500.gif |
| 01:58.53 | Fisker | jesus christ bluspacecow |
| 01:59.08 | bluspacecow | om nom nom nom |
| 01:59.31 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 01:59.39 | Fisker | that is not even a single muscle moved |
| 01:59.58 | Fisker | minecraft movie is jesus christ |
| 02:00.14 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 02:00.15 | bluspacecow | ok |
| 02:00.25 | Jamash | they could have used a world generator and done it in an hour |
| 02:00.44 | Fisker | yeah |
| 02:02.12 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657275821 |
| 02:02.16 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 02:02.57 | Fisker | damnit |
| 02:02.58 | Fisker | it's 3am |
| 02:03.16 | Fisker | and there's monty python in tv |
| 02:04.28 | mckenziemc | monty python's in your TV? |
| 02:04.30 | Jamash | what do they call monty python in swefinorlawaynd? |
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| 02:05.23 | bluspacecow | their government |
| 02:05.30 | Jamash | bazam |
| 02:05.53 | bluspacecow | kk gotta go to work nows |
| 02:09.43 | Raimondas | Jamash: You aren't a linux user until you've done Linux From Scratch :) |
| 02:10.20 | Jamash | I wrote sysv unix from scratch |
| 02:10.38 | Jamash | also I invented the transistor |
| 02:10.59 | Thunder_Child | i invented reality |
| 02:11.09 | Jamash | oh so it's all your fault |
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| 02:12.44 | Thunder_Child | it usually is |
| 02:12.52 | Tuller | waffleironpowertrip |
| 02:14.16 | Jamash | also LFS is only using linux to the extent that growing wheat is eating cookies |
| 02:15.47 | Jamash | to misquote Carl Sagan, in order to make Linux from Scratch, you must first invent the universe |
| 02:30.18 | Jamash | HERMANN RORSCHACH WAS BRAD PITT http://www.crystalinks.com/rorschach.html |
| 02:36.19 | kd3 | yay! a silk touch pick |
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| 03:29.08 | NikolasMk | So is this for addon dev? |
| 03:29.18 | Cairenn | Yes |
| 03:29.19 | Thunder_Child | thats the theory |
| 03:29.22 | NikolasMk | sweet |
| 03:29.32 | Thunder_Child | it usually devolves however |
| 03:30.06 | NikolasMk | I was wondering, im a python programmer ive read some lua which seems fine, but how do devs make custom addon gfx and implement them in-game? |
| 03:30.38 | Thunder_Child | xml is my guess |
| 03:30.44 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: Lies. |
| 03:30.44 | Thunder_Child | though i think you can do it without |
| 03:30.46 | Torhal | I use Lua. |
| 03:31.11 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: i thought it was easier with xml, though far more annoying |
| 03:31.14 | Torhal | They have to be a power of two in dimension, and be in the Interface/AddOns path |
| 03:31.14 | NikolasMk | is there some place where i can get WoW art like DK runes to make big timers for them? |
| 03:31.30 | Torhal | Start WoW with -console |
| 03:31.40 | Torhal | At the login screen, hit the ~ key to open the console |
| 03:31.50 | Torhal | Type: ExportInterfaceFiles art |
| 03:32.09 | NikolasMk | alright |
| 03:32.09 | Torhal | That will dump all the art (in BLP format) into your WoW dir |
| 03:32.36 | NikolasMk | is there a way i can specify it so it'll be dumped into a folder neatly? |
| 03:32.39 | NikolasMk | the file path? |
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| 03:32.42 | Torhal | You can look at them with XnView (and some others I can't think of) |
| 03:33.02 | Torhal | It's all dumped into BlizzardInterfaceArt |
| 03:33.03 | kd3 | not really. it's basically going to extract everything in \\Interface |
| 03:33.08 | Seerah | NikolasMk: it's already dumped neatly |
| 03:33.13 | NikolasMk | k |
| 03:33.22 | Torhal | You can do the same thing with the UI code by specifying "code" instead of "art" |
| 03:33.38 | mckenziemc | btw it'll look like wow froze up when you export teh art, but the UI just freezes for a while while it exports the art |
| 03:33.49 | Seerah | I also recommend http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16700-BLPView.html and http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info6127-BLP2PNG.html |
| 03:33.49 | kd3 | because there's a /lot/ to export |
| 03:33.52 | Torhal | Yah - the art is heavy mojo |
| 03:36.14 | Torhal | And yeah, Thunder_Child, if you're dealing with the XML it is rather easy, but I was thinking you were saying that was the only way due to how your answer was phrased |
| 03:37.21 | bluspacecow | @Seerah oh hai2u |
| 03:37.35 | Seerah | hai2u2, bluspacecow :) |
| 03:38.38 | Sintacks | HAI BLUE AND RED NAMED PEOPLE |
| 03:38.39 | Sintacks | CAPS LOCK |
| 03:38.51 | Sintacks | blp2png is awesome |
| 03:41.46 | Seerah | good :) |
| 03:42.07 | Seerah | err... yeah :) it is. |
| 03:42.07 | Seerah | goes back to work >< |
| 03:44.45 | mckenziemc | distracts Seerah from work |
| 03:45.08 | Seerah | I need a couple more class summaries written plus to make up a pre-algebra test. wanna do it for me? :D |
| 03:47.48 | bluspacecow | i got this seerah |
| 03:47.50 | bluspacecow | "you suck |
| 03:47.53 | bluspacecow | opps |
| 03:48.03 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 03:48.13 | bluspacecow | "you suck" "you suck" "you suck" "you rule" "i love you" "you suck""you suck" on the class summaries |
| 03:48.21 | Seerah | I don't think their parents want to read that :p |
| 03:50.07 | Iriel | Maybe the "you rule" and "I love you" ones |
| 03:51.07 | Seerah | :) |
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| 03:59.01 | NikolasMk | Sorry if i'm distracting your convo, but where do i find the DK rune pics or pally holy power pics? im looking through the art but can't find it anywhere. |
| 04:02.24 | mckenziemc | interface/playerframe i think |
| 04:02.28 | Torhal | NikolasMk: There's a lot of art - I usually have to browse around for things. |
| 04:02.54 | NikolasMk | mckenziemc: thx, found it |
| 04:03.12 | NikolasMk | Torhal: Yeah, i was browsing through it for a bit, just couldn't find it. |
| 04:11.35 | pompy | ugh the mature language filter reenables itself with every session! |
| 04:11.49 | bluspacecow | thats apparently a bug |
| 04:12.45 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657276536#7 |
| 04:12.53 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657276536?page=1#19 |
| 04:13.03 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3595578200#3 |
| 04:13.14 | pompy | yeah |
| 04:13.23 | mckenziemc | the universe's existence is a bug |
| 04:13.57 | bluspacecow | bit of an odd fix tho ,...crash the game without logging out |
| 04:15.07 | Arrowmaster | pompy: ACR DONE |
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| 04:30.23 | Arrowmaster | pompy: do you have halo anniversary? i want to find somebody to do it with on coop so i dont have to splitscreen the thing with an idle controller |
| 04:30.38 | Thunder_Child | mckenziemc: it was actually. It was supposed to be an unfolding matrix, but it had an unintended cascade effect. |
| 04:31.05 | pompy | Arrowmaster: no i dont |
| 04:31.38 | pompy | Arrowmaster: since when did the xbox.com fb app work? :O |
| 04:32.10 | Arrowmaster | pompy: feature of the new dashboard, i had to manually send that from the new dash |
| 04:32.39 | pompy | ah, everyone gets that dec 6 right? |
| 04:33.11 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:33.35 | pompy | what was the last achievement u had to finish? |
| 04:35.52 | Arrowmaster | the level 20 multiplayer one |
| 04:36.01 | Arrowmaster | damnit im running out of room to put games |
| 04:36.19 | Arrowmaster | ive got two 25 dvd case crates full and stacked on top of each other |
| 04:36.20 | pompy | theres no way to like make anymore money in that game it seems other than idling! |
| 04:39.12 | pompy | Arrowmaster: dues ex augmented editon for $25 lightning deal atm |
| 04:39.20 | Arrowmaster | already have it |
| 04:39.32 | pompy | i dont, worth it? |
| 04:39.38 | Arrowmaster | havent started it yet |
| 04:39.46 | Arrowmaster | but everybody says its a great game |
| 04:40.50 | pompy | damn they had resistance 3 for $20 earlier |
| 04:40.53 | pompy | wish i saw that |
| 04:42.38 | Arrowmaster | what to play now |
| 04:43.00 | bluspacecow | me |
| 04:43.01 | bluspacecow | :D |
| 04:43.06 | Arrowmaster | i really should play rage so i can finish it and get it off my harddrive |
| 04:43.09 | pompy | did u ever get Brink from BB the other day? |
| 04:43.21 | Arrowmaster | didnt get brink but i got bulletstorm for $3 |
| 04:43.32 | Thunder_Child | i think i'll just wait for the winter sale on steam |
| 04:43.37 | pompy | brink is $10 right now on amazon, 3 hrs left |
| 04:43.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah people were saying it wasnt even worth it at $10 |
| 04:45.46 | NikolasMk | Do you have Skyrim? |
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| 04:46.26 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 04:46.44 | Arrowmaster | but if i start playing it again im still not going to finish it anytime soon |
| 04:53.23 | pompy | well i joined the waitlist for the dues ex augmented editoin deal, hope i get a spot. |
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| 05:06.14 | pompy | gr 9 minutes left to get a spot |
| 05:07.37 | durcyn | you couldn't pay me to play brink |
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| 05:15.58 | pompy | damnit, deal expired |
| 05:19.35 | Thunder_Child | durcyn: yes we could |
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| 05:50.35 | starlon | Any major changes in this latest patch? |
| 05:53.08 | kd3 | latest patch? did they ship a point build? |
| 05:53.18 | kd3 | starts looking |
| 05:54.49 | pompy | point build? |
| 05:55.18 | starlon | points at kd3. |
| 05:55.25 | starlon | build me a sandwich |
| 05:55.55 | Thunder_Child | builds starlon a sandwich out of GC |
| 05:56.04 | starlon | GC? |
| 05:56.18 | Thunder_Child | garbage collection |
| 05:56.22 | starlon | ah |
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| 06:14.47 | starlon | Thunder!!! |
| 06:16.20 | mckenziemc | wind! |
| 06:22.54 | bluspacecow | someone passed wind ? |
| 06:23.20 | mckenziemc | i think a tree just fell over O.o |
| 06:24.04 | mckenziemc | maybe not, but it didn't sound right for thunder D: |
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| 06:50.30 | Cairenn | night all |
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| 07:01.22 | mckenziemc1 | hey bibi |
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| 07:39.30 | starlon | http://imgur.com/sSEkh |
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| 07:52.34 | Fisker | hey Funkeh` |
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| 08:12.06 | mckenziemc1 | Fisker |
| 08:13.52 | Fisker | nevcairiel you there? |
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| 08:25.49 | Fisker | hey Kalroth |
| 08:32.58 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 08:35.53 | Kalroth | hejsa fisker, fjæssingen af sortehavet |
| 08:36.11 | Fisker | no! |
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| 08:47.04 | karl_w_w | If you're havin' Quidditch problems, I feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but a snitch ain't one. |
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| 09:03.10 | Jamash | ok since when do pvp gear recipes get automatically upgraded |
| 09:03.26 | Fisker | when don't they? |
| 09:07.11 | Raimondas | Since Cataclysm |
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| 09:08.15 | Jamash | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 09:08.25 | Jamash | NOBODY TOLD ME |
| 09:09.01 | Fisker | Blizzard did :( |
| 09:09.07 | Jamash | where and when |
| 09:09.10 | Jamash | I read patch notes |
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| 09:15.11 | Fisker | maybe they wrote it using vanishing ink? |
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| 09:18.41 | karl_w_w | i never knew that |
| 09:18.57 | karl_w_w | but then i dont have a prof that crafts pvp gear |
| 09:19.41 | Fisker | mad+ |
| 09:19.42 | Fisker | ? |
| 09:19.51 | mckenziemc1 | ^ fail |
| 09:20.23 | Fisker | umad mckenziemc1? |
| 09:20.38 | mckenziemc1 | nou |
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| 09:22.27 | mckenziemc1 | ~fiskerslap Torhal |
| 09:22.28 | purl | ACTION slaps Torhal around a bit with Fisker. |
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| 09:22.48 | Torhal | ~whalenuke mckenziemc1 |
| 09:22.48 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around mckenziemc1 with his mind powers. |
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| 09:23.18 | mckenziemc1 | ~torhalslap Fisker |
| 09:23.50 | karl_w_w | grabs Torhal by the ankles and swings him in an arc, collecting Fisker in the process |
| 09:24.37 | Fisker | mad karl_w_w ? |
| 09:24.50 | karl_w_w | not at all, i was just triggered |
| 09:27.30 | starlon | is a trout. |
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| 09:27.49 | mckenziemc1 | dies. |
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| 09:35.34 | airtonix | oh ok Fisker |
| 09:35.51 | mckenziemc1 | die airtonix |
| 09:37.47 | airtonix | anyway mckenziemc1 |
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| 09:41.00 | airtonix | falmer armor looks awesome |
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| 09:51.50 | bluspacecow | kk i go homes nows |
| 09:51.55 | mckenziemc1 | nooo |
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| 10:01.58 | airtonix | umad? |
| 10:02.54 | mckenziemc1 | hey airtonix |
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| 10:24.06 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: ics for n1 requires repartitioning via hboot |
| 10:24.08 | jnwhiteh | *sadface* |
| 10:24.16 | airtonix | umad? |
| 10:24.24 | jnwhiteh | no, isad. |
| 10:24.28 | airtonix | oh |
| 10:24.46 | airtonix | i'll wait to use ics when miui is based on it |
| 10:24.54 | jnwhiteh | you would use miui |
| 10:25.02 | airtonix | so would ya mum |
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| 10:28.35 | haste | my desire hd needs ics |
| 10:28.37 | haste | NEEDS |
| 10:29.01 | airtonix | face? |
| 10:31.59 | airtonix | why do you think it needs ics haste |
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| 10:37.02 | airtonix | haste |
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| 12:01.08 | foxlit | Poor Kalec. |
| 12:01.12 | foxlit | Aspect for all of 3 minutes. |
| 12:02.58 | jnwhiteh | are the in-game cinematics up anywhere where they're easily consumable? |
| 12:03.03 | jnwhiteh | my thesis won't let me play WoW =) |
| 12:03.13 | foxlit | youtube; also, mmo-c frontpage |
| 12:03.38 | jnwhiteh | youtube is too vague, I want htem all together cause I'm lazy |
| 12:03.40 | jnwhiteh | so mmoc it is |
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| 12:07.01 | jnwhiteh | cool =) |
| 12:10.07 | foxlit | it seemed kind of meh to me. It's essentially killing off a bunch of characters for no reason. |
| 12:13.42 | Fisker | like a boss jnwhiteh |
| 12:14.58 | Fisker | i hate you haste |
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| 12:19.14 | harl | hello |
| 12:19.44 | Fisker | i'm happy jnwhiteh |
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| 12:25.33 | Fisker | Stanzilla pls |
| 12:25.38 | Fisker | i need to give someone a gigantic middle finger |
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| 13:01.57 | Adys | Working on some obscure game |
| 13:02.01 | Adys | http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3429 |
| 13:02.12 | Adys | found that it uses the same format as this one |
| 13:02.13 | Stanzilla | Fisker pls |
| 13:02.24 | Adys | Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:26 pm |
| 13:02.39 | Adys | Who were you. |
| 13:02.41 | Adys | WHAT DID YOU SEE. |
| 13:03.45 | Fisker | Stanzilla pls |
| 13:04.01 | Fisker | they delayed my GN again |
| 13:05.07 | Stanzilla | I just got a new inet connection |
| 13:05.12 | Stanzilla | can't destroy my happiness today |
| 13:06.35 | Fisker | ok |
| 13:06.39 | Fisker | i will destroy it |
| 13:06.53 | Stanzilla | nope |
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| 13:07.07 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:07.15 | Fisker | my day is ruined |
| 13:07.22 | Fisker | hence yours must be ruined as well |
| 13:07.27 | Stanzilla | pls not |
| 13:07.39 | Fisker | You know whats funny? |
| 13:08.26 | Fisker | Unless it takes much longer for our postal services to determine my package is not full of value or anthrax they will have delivered my package from hong kong even before i get my phone |
| 13:10.39 | Fisker | also just found out i can do MC without being in a raid group |
| 13:18.31 | bluspacecow | Fisker |
| 13:18.38 | bluspacecow | can you sell Chaos orbs on the AH ? |
| 13:20.02 | Fisker | yes bluspacecow |
| 13:20.03 | Fisker | umad? |
| 13:20.26 | bluspacecow | i bro mad |
| 13:20.35 | Fisker | you would be |
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| 13:23.28 | Fisker | so now what bluspacecow ? |
| 13:25.38 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 13:26.25 | Adys | cbreak: ping |
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| 13:33.05 | Stanzilla | 15ms ping Fisker |
| 13:33.07 | Stanzilla | I'm so happy |
| 13:33.46 | Fisker | 0% care Stanzilla :( |
| 13:33.48 | Kalroth | so i herd u liek Fisker |
| 13:34.20 | Fisker | no you don't Kalroth |
| 13:34.27 | Kalroth | yes i do!! |
| 13:34.39 | Fisker | no |
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| 14:36.22 | Lothaer | looks like blizz released a 50 |
| 14:36.26 | Lothaer | 50MB Patch |
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| 14:43.17 | karl_w_w | does void storage fill up or grow bigger when u reach what is shown there? |
| 14:43.58 | karl_w_w | 80 slots doesnt seem like so much |
| 14:52.06 | BlackNet | i filled mine up already |
| 14:52.11 | BlackNet | and no it does not grow |
| 14:52.17 | BlackNet | its not much storage at all |
| 14:52.40 | BlackNet | i put t1, t2, my transmog swords, maces, axes and arch stuff in there. |
| 14:56.35 | alestane | So, it's not much if you're a pack rat. |
| 14:56.41 | alestane | (Which I usually am) |
| 14:56.47 | bluspacecow | meh |
| 14:56.51 | BlackNet | am not a packrat |
| 14:56.55 | bluspacecow | i have a guild bank for packratty thingys |
| 14:57.28 | alestane | If your void storage is entirely full of transmogrify stuff, you're a packrat. |
| 14:57.35 | BlackNet | no |
| 14:57.44 | BlackNet | t1, t2, t4, t10 gear sets |
| 14:58.00 | BlackNet | all the arch stuff |
| 14:58.16 | alestane | And if you still have full sets of t1, t2 and t4? That's another clue. |
| 14:58.29 | alestane | Don't take this too hard, by the way. I have a lot of similar stuff. |
| 14:59.15 | alestane | I still have my Robe of the Void, which I will probably convert whatever my 'lock is wearing to look like. |
| 14:59.42 | BlackNet | 100 junkboxes down this am |
| 15:00.13 | alestane | I think my original main has a lot of vanity gear...white wedding dress, Felcloth robe, Metro's slimming leggings, etc. |
| 15:03.27 | BlackNet | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/arygos/Blacknet/simple |
| 15:04.13 | karl_w_w | i have full sets of t1 t5 t6 |
| 15:04.20 | karl_w_w | most of t4 |
| 15:04.30 | BlackNet | i have most of the justicar set |
| 15:06.11 | karl_w_w | funny how the old reforgers all "forgot" how to do it |
| 15:07.03 | karl_w_w | blizzard: "we want you to get out into the game world, not just sit around in stormwind" "oh btw, you can now only reforge in stormwind" |
| 15:07.26 | BlackNet | lol how about void storage places? only in sw right? |
| 15:07.30 | alestane | No void storage/reforging in the other capitals? |
| 15:07.35 | karl_w_w | nop |
| 15:07.36 | BlackNet | dont think so |
| 15:07.40 | alestane | That does seem silly. |
| 15:07.50 | BlackNet | indeed it does. |
| 15:08.03 | BlackNet | not everyone has good fast computers that can handle to insane number of ppl in the trade district |
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| 15:08.54 | BlackNet | i like how they put level's on the zone maps now |
| 15:09.02 | BlackNet | about damned time |
| 15:11.16 | karl_w_w | yes they should add more addon features to the game :P |
| 15:11.25 | karl_w_w | i wonder how long before they steal clique |
| 15:11.46 | BlackNet | indeed |
| 15:12.05 | BlackNet | if a very large number ofplayers are using the addon then well it's time to integrate thatshit |
| 15:12.30 | karl_w_w | well not necessarily :P |
| 15:13.14 | Dagmar | Usually. |
| 15:13.38 | karl_w_w | well they wouldnt do dbm |
| 15:13.47 | karl_w_w | well they sort of have |
| 15:13.52 | karl_w_w | but not timers and stuff |
| 15:14.00 | alestane | I believe they usually need to feel like the add-on functionality gives a substantial advantage, like people using arena frames trending to beat those who don't. |
| 15:14.17 | BlackNet | yea that woudl be to smart of a thing to do |
| 15:14.26 | alestane | Otherwise, stuff gets added in as it appears to be a convenience. |
| 15:14.33 | BlackNet | and gm's has to have something to blame bugs and glitches on |
| 15:14.41 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:15.21 | karl_w_w | but yeah they dont do it because a lot of people use the addon |
| 15:15.39 | karl_w_w | like im sure not so many people used that addon that made the quest frame cover 2 frames |
| 15:16.18 | karl_w_w | lots of people use quartz for example |
| 15:16.24 | karl_w_w | or some other cast bar mod |
| 15:19.18 | BlackNet | i use elvui |
| 15:20.52 | jnwhiteh | they've explained their reasoning several times |
| 15:21.03 | jnwhiteh | they don't believe in including an addon because 'lots of people who use addons use it' |
| 15:21.06 | jnwhiteh | because most people dont' use addons |
| 15:21.23 | jnwhiteh | and doing those addons in a way that makes sense and can be easily explained is very difficult. |
| 15:21.25 | BlackNet | and they have yet to publish any type of stats to back up those bs claims |
| 15:21.29 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 15:21.31 | jnwhiteh | they don't have to |
| 15:21.33 | jnwhiteh | they run the game |
| 15:21.43 | jnwhiteh | take all of Curse/Wowinterface's users combined |
| 15:21.49 | BlackNet | they are full of shit untill they can show data to back up those claims |
| 15:21.51 | jnwhiteh | that is still an incredibly SMALL portion of the WoW userbase |
| 15:21.57 | jnwhiteh | I really hate your attitude. |
| 15:22.01 | jnwhiteh | I don't know what it is |
| 15:22.02 | BlackNet | sorry |
| 15:22.16 | jnwhiteh | I should have better control over myself, but something about your responses just makes me want to beat sense into you =/ |
| 15:22.44 | jnwhiteh | The fact of the matter is we *do* have numbers and they pale in comparison to the WoW userbase |
| 15:22.56 | jnwhiteh | so the claim that 'most' users don't use addons is trivially a fact |
| 15:24.53 | Fisker | jnwhiteh :( |
| 15:24.54 | Fisker | imad |
| 15:24.57 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 15:25.05 | jnwhiteh | go to Germany and get my laptop for me? |
| 15:25.23 | alestane | My add-on Demonomicon is marked "popular" on WoWI, but accounting for the fact that many of its downloads are updates from older versions, it's used by less than a twentieth of a percent of WoW players. |
| 15:25.54 | alestane | Given that it's only relevant to one class, maybe an eighth of a percent of all warlocks. |
| 15:26.13 | alestane | Now, there are many more popular add-ons. |
| 15:26.13 | BlackNet | you failed to mention all the other addons that ppl get from forums, private sites, non-repositories |
| 15:26.23 | jnwhiteh | BlackNet: I didn't fail to mention anything |
| 15:26.27 | jnwhiteh | but thanks for playing |
| 15:26.28 | BlackNet | oh and github |
| 15:26.38 | alestane | jnwhiteh has written several of those. |
| 15:27.12 | alestane | But they still represent maybe 12% at most. |
| 15:27.46 | karl_w_w | how do blizzard know how many people use addons |
| 15:27.55 | BlackNet | warden |
| 15:27.56 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: the client tells the,/ |
| 15:27.57 | jnwhiteh | them |
| 15:27.59 | jnwhiteh | pretty simple |
| 15:28.00 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 15:28.11 | BlackNet | warden tells them every program you have running while the client is open |
| 15:28.16 | jnwhiteh | BlackNet: ... |
| 15:28.17 | jnwhiteh | just. |
| 15:28.23 | jnwhiteh | that's irrelevant |
| 15:28.26 | jnwhiteh | they don't need warden to tell them that |
| 15:28.43 | karl_w_w | damn so they know about my gay horse porn habit |
| 15:28.50 | jnwhiteh | BlackNet: also, FUD, beyond belief. |
| 15:28.55 | jnwhiteh | it does no such thing |
| 15:29.06 | Maldivia | karl_w_w: that's common knowledge |
| 15:29.10 | karl_w_w | ah |
| 15:29.12 | karl_w_w | ok then |
| 15:29.37 | jnwhiteh | I feel like I'm constantly being trolled, but I don't think you're *trying* to do that. |
| 15:30.27 | Maldivia | well... it is the Internet, so the probability is high |
| 15:30.34 | Fisker | nah jnwhiteh |
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| 15:30.39 | Fisker | i just got fucked |
| 15:30.51 | Fisker | kinda like how cartman's mom fucked him in the ass by not giving him that ipad |
| 15:31.03 | jnwhiteh | just so much "shit" spewing out of people's mouths sometimes =/ |
| 15:31.09 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:31.23 | Fisker | my package is just above the trivial limit for importing |
| 15:31.25 | Fisker | by 2-3€ :( |
| 15:31.37 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: oh God, that sucks =( |
| 15:31.38 | Fisker | and they take like 20-30€ for doing the import handling |
| 15:31.39 | Fisker | ell oh ell |
| 15:31.46 | Fisker | so my package just got twice as expensive |
| 15:31.49 | Fisker | atleast |
| 15:32.16 | jnwhiteh | boo |
| 15:32.23 | alestane | That's, what, $45-50 equivalent for handling? |
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| 15:32.55 | Maldivia | reminds me of some cds i bought online, got hit by customs... about .5 euro, and then 20 euro handling fee |
| 15:33.17 | karl_w_w | move to australia |
| 15:33.38 | karl_w_w | anything value < $1000 is free from import duty |
| 15:34.03 | Fisker | haha what |
| 15:34.24 | karl_w_w | and the aussie dollar has been kicking ass and taking names lately |
| 15:36.20 | Maldivia | convince my boss to move my job there, then sure :) |
| 15:43.29 | Fisker | oh joy jnwhiteh |
| 15:43.35 | Fisker | they get to keep my package for 4-5 days |
| 15:43.39 | Fisker | (Working days probably) |
| 15:43.49 | Fisker | and i get to pay them 20-30€ |
| 15:43.50 | Fisker | oh joy |
| 15:46.57 | karl_w_w | ~whaleparry customs |
| 15:46.57 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry customs's attacks. |
| 15:47.29 | Stanzilla | what did you buy Fisker |
| 15:48.49 | Fisker | micro usb otg cable |
| 15:48.51 | Fisker | and a mhl adapter |
| 15:49.24 | nevcairiel | i always was too lazy to get a mhl adapter |
| 15:49.37 | nevcairiel | didnt really miss it either, though |
| 15:49.54 | Fisker | i like toys |
| 15:49.58 | Fisker | especially when they're (not so) cheap |
| 15:50.05 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 15:50.13 | Fisker | people are whining over ultraxion and bartender4 |
| 15:50.18 | Fisker | beginners mistake or? |
| 15:50.22 | nevcairiel | people are always whining |
| 15:50.33 | nevcairiel | didnt Stanzilla test it on ptr |
| 15:50.38 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:51.30 | nevcairiel | apparently people are also blaiming it for taint, but i wouldnt know why |
| 15:52.20 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 15:52.20 | purl | i guess framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 15:52.42 | Stanzilla | Nechckn: it works |
| 15:52.44 | Stanzilla | oops |
| 15:52.47 | Stanzilla | nevcairiel: ^ |
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| 15:53.15 | karl_w_w | why what happens on ultraxion? |
| 15:53.31 | nevcairiel | you get some stupid new button |
| 15:53.49 | Stanzilla | you get it on deathwing too |
| 15:53.52 | Stanzilla | and it works there, too |
| 15:53.57 | Stanzilla | so no problem |
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| 15:54.37 | karl_w_w | since i reinstalled my whole wow a couple of months ago my vehicle bar never appears with bartender :P |
| 15:55.07 | nevcairiel | someone remind me, the securecall function calls the specified function preventing tainting the execution path, right? |
| 15:55.35 | Maldivia | basically |
| 15:56.02 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowpedia.org/API_securecall |
| 15:56.10 | Arrowmaster | securecall is used in secure code to call unsecure code without tainting the secure code |
| 15:56.17 | alestane | It's useless to us, though, because any execution path we can call it from is already tainted. |
| 15:56.23 | nevcairiel | yeah i know |
| 15:56.34 | nevcairiel | just trying to figure out if some changes might have tained the ui |
| 15:56.52 | nevcairiel | Does changing a table member taint the whole table? |
| 15:56.58 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 15:57.31 | nevcairiel | basically i'm setting "ignoreFramePositionManager" on a Blizzard frame, and wondering if that can break stuff |
| 15:58.03 | alestane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1qe2_cvDaU&feature=share Are we sure they're not playing this backward? |
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| 15:59.00 | jnwhiteh | alestane: yeah |
| 15:59.16 | jnwhiteh | the pressure on the paw is only moving back, pulling it on |
| 15:59.50 | jnwhiteh | OMG OMG http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=SEBLt6Kd9EY |
| 16:00.03 | alestane | nevcairiel: If a key in a table is set from tainted code, reading that key will taint the current execution path. |
| 16:00.09 | alestane | Reading other keys should not. |
| 16:00.26 | alestane | Yes, that's some serious wind. |
| 16:00.39 | alestane | Even mama duck is having some trouble. |
| 16:00.43 | nevcairiel | so if i set a key in a table (a frame), and the blizzy code does if (frame and frame:IsShown()) nothing bad happens? |
| 16:01.20 | nevcairiel | I've been out of this too long |
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| 16:12.43 | alestane | It's not actually values that get tainted, but references to values. |
| 16:13.52 | alestane | When the frame is a global, or a local, or a key in a table, if it has been set to one of those values by tainted code, then reading that variable or key will taint the execution path. |
| 16:14.22 | alestane | But if there is a clean reference to the table, then any secure code that reads that reference will not be tainted. |
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| 16:16.24 | nevcairiel | The only thing i do is add that one key to the frame table, and reparent it |
| 16:16.31 | nevcairiel | apparently people complain of taint since then |
| 16:16.35 | nevcairiel | however i could not confirm that yet |
| 16:16.56 | nevcairiel | going to try that agin now |
| 16:16.58 | nevcairiel | again* |
| 16:18.02 | alestane | Taint can be very hard to assign and track correctly. |
| 16:18.29 | nevcairiel | i can usually get by if i can reproduce the problem and have a taint log 2 |
| 16:18.43 | alestane | It is possible for you to set something that should not be a problem, and then for another add-on to put it in the path of Blizzard code. |
| 16:18.44 | nevcairiel | but silly bug reporters only give you error stack traces or taintlog 1, if you're lucky |
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| 16:23.27 | nevcairiel | aha, i see whats going on, at least this case |
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| 16:25.40 | nevcairiel | its blizzards fault for streamlining event handling in action buttons. =/ |
| 16:26.17 | alestane | I thought we had that taint path straightened out....did they put action code after presentation code again? |
| 16:26.38 | nevcairiel | the event handlers now iterate over all buttons with one OnEvent handler, instead of each having their own |
| 16:26.49 | nevcairiel | so if one breaks in presentation code, all buttons coming later in the list go boom |
| 16:27.24 | alestane | ...and that should be a secure iteration. |
| 16:27.32 | nevcairiel | for k, frame in pairs(self.frames) do |
| 16:27.32 | nevcairiel | ActionButton_OnEvent(frame, event, ...); |
| 16:27.32 | nevcairiel | end |
| 16:27.34 | nevcairiel | is not. :P |
| 16:27.57 | alestane | I'll raise that issue. There was a similar problem with the interface options panels. |
| 16:35.41 | alestane | nevcairiel: Might buttons be added to self.frames insecurely? |
| 16:36.27 | nevcairiel | its in the frames OnLoad |
| 16:36.41 | nevcairiel | and the frames are created in framexml |
| 16:36.52 | nevcairiel | so i guess someone could sneak a insecure frame in there |
| 16:38.19 | nevcairiel | I assume the executation of an OnLoad of my own frame is tainted by design |
| 16:38.28 | alestane | Yes. |
| 16:38.29 | nevcairiel | then yes, anyone using ActionBarButtonTemplate will taint the array |
| 16:39.44 | nevcairiel | it would bne added to the end, though, so when the loop reaches them it would have already passed the secure frames |
| 16:39.55 | nevcairiel | unless the whole table gets tainted because of adding new keys |
| 16:40.12 | alestane | The OnLoad of ActionBarButtonTemplate adds self to self.parent.frames? |
| 16:40.53 | nevcairiel | it calls ActionBarButtonEventsFrame_RegisterFrame(self) |
| 16:41.09 | nevcairiel | which adds it to ActionBarActionEventsFrame.frames |
| 16:41.54 | nevcairiel | actually, i was mistaken, its a hash not an array, so who knows when the loop gets tainted |
| 16:42.21 | alestane | So there is now a single frame that receives all action button events and then dispatches them to all registered frames. |
| 16:42.34 | nevcairiel | it receives all global events that are always registered |
| 16:42.38 | alestane | Presumably to reduce the bogging down of event dispatch. |
| 16:42.46 | nevcairiel | like PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD and such |
| 16:42.58 | nevcairiel | the events that are only registered when the button has an action, are still button specific |
| 16:43.16 | jnwhiteh | it moved the event dispatch from C to Lua to avoid the call boundary |
| 16:43.51 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 16:43.52 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 16:43.57 | nevcairiel | there is a second dispatcher frame |
| 16:44.04 | nevcairiel | i didnt see that before |
| 16:44.15 | nevcairiel | so they have one for the "global" events, and one for the "has an action" events |
| 16:45.35 | Ackis | TIL: A 1958 plan to detonate a nuclear bomb in Alberta to collect oil sands did get the approval of the Alberta government, but was vetoed by Canadian Prime Minister John Diefenbaker. |
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| 16:46.41 | durcyn | now you have no excuse for your mutations, Ackis? |
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| 16:47.12 | nevcairiel | am i glad now that i moved on from the default actionbutton template |
| 16:48.10 | alestane | That's probably still going to be an issue that they want to corrrect. |
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| 16:48.36 | nevcairiel | yeah, something is still causing people to report taint to me |
| 16:50.08 | Ackis | tehehe taint |
| 16:50.26 | alestane | ~baseballbat Ackis |
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| 16:50.47 | Ackis | ~smackis |
| 16:50.48 | purl | ACTION smacks Ackis. |
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| 16:53.43 | Lunessa | station! |
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| 16:55.23 | jnwhiteh | alestane: I have to disagree with something that you said. nevcairiel asked if the 'OnLoad of a frame I created is tainted by design', but that's not the case. If the frame created is inherited from a secure template, then the OnLoad function (which is set by the template and is secure) will be invoked in secure mode. Correct? |
| 16:55.36 | jnwhiteh | It's orthogonal to the issue going on here, but I don't want incorrect information floating around :P |
| 16:55.48 | alestane | You are technically correct. |
| 16:55.56 | nevcairiel | Actually, people using the actionbarbuttontemplate would also use a secure template |
| 16:56.14 | nevcairiel | otherwise its defunct |
| 16:56.32 | nevcairiel | Hm |
| 16:56.43 | nevcairiel | The Template itself is a secure template. :) |
| 16:56.45 | alestane | However, if an add-on uses a template that inherits from ActionBarButtonTemplate, they will have to manually call ActionButton_OnLoad, from their tainted path. |
| 16:57.06 | nevcairiel | I would guess most people directly instantiate ActionBarButtonTemplate |
| 16:57.12 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 16:57.15 | jnwhiteh | or use multiple inheritance |
| 16:58.09 | nevcairiel | well the initial issue still remains, when one frames OnEvent handler taints, all following are tainted as well |
| 16:59.10 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 16:59.16 | jnwhiteh | pretty simply stated and easy to understand |
| 16:59.19 | jnwhiteh | can you reproduce it at all? |
| 16:59.34 | nevcairiel | easily |
| 16:59.41 | nevcairiel | i had some addon hooking GetActinCooldown |
| 16:59.44 | nevcairiel | Action* |
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| 16:59.58 | nevcairiel | all visible buttons would call it to get the cooldown |
| 17:00.28 | nevcairiel | which means any following buttons cannot be shown/hidden anymore |
| 17:00.40 | jnwhiteh | ah okay |
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| 17:02.17 | nevcairiel | just try to switch your action bar using the Shift-<number> hotkeys in combat after that, and boom. :) |
| 17:03.01 | jnwhiteh | why was an addon hooking a global function like that? |
| 17:03.23 | nevcairiel | Its supposed to show the internal cooldowns for procs of trinkets and stuff |
| 17:03.32 | nevcairiel | blame Antiarc, his code. :p |
| 17:03.41 | jnwhiteh | and in the old system it just tainted those buttons that were already visible? |
| 17:04.02 | jnwhiteh | (just trying to understand the usage/impact) |
| 17:04.13 | nevcairiel | In the old system, the code requiring secure executation was done first |
| 17:04.22 | jnwhiteh | ah, okay |
| 17:04.23 | nevcairiel | after that all "visual" code, like cooldowns |
| 17:04.37 | nevcairiel | it would fallback to C, and the execution is cleared again |
| 17:04.54 | nevcairiel | now it stays in Lua. :) |
| 17:05.11 | nevcairiel | one securecall in that loop would probably fix it |
| 17:05.19 | jnwhiteh | aye, that seems to make sense |
| 17:05.20 | nevcairiel | or rather in the two loops |
| 17:05.25 | jnwhiteh | what addon is the problem? |
| 17:05.39 | nevcairiel | technically LibInternalCooldowns, used by SexyCooldowns |
| 17:05.57 | nevcairiel | @project sexy-cooldowns |
| 17:05.58 | Repo | nevcairiel: No project found that matches 'sexy-cooldowns' |
| 17:06.01 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 17:06.21 | durcyn | it's on wowace under libinternalcooldowns-1-0, but he's marked it as abandoned and removed himself from the project db |
| 17:06.32 | nevcairiel | @project sexycooldown |
| 17:06.33 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sexycooldown/. SexyCooldown. Game: WoW. Antiarc (Manager/Author). Updated: 217 days ago. Tickets: 66/74 |
| 17:06.56 | nevcairiel | well SexyCooldown still pulls it in |
| 17:07.11 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 17:07.14 | durcyn | well, i assume he also abandoned that one |
| 17:07.26 | nevcairiel | Antiarc pretty much abandoned us all =P |
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| 17:08.58 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 17:09.16 | nevcairiel | he got kids, or some distraction like that |
| 17:09.58 | durcyn | teach the kids lua, problem solved |
| 17:10.02 | jnwhiteh | fucking selfish |
| 17:10.16 | Lunessa | Breeding is selfish1 |
| 17:10.20 | Lunessa | =0 |
| 17:10.50 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: any reason we can't securehook the GetActionCooldown()? |
| 17:11.09 | nevcairiel | how do you change the return value in a securehook? :) |
| 17:11.19 | jnwhiteh | oh, I see now |
| 17:11.26 | jnwhiteh | so it adds cooldown to internal item procs |
| 17:11.44 | nevcairiel | new items werent added for a long time, so its really mostly useless now |
| 17:12.07 | durcyn | i'll update it if i ever resubscribe =P |
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| 17:12.20 | nevcairiel | it was a neat idea |
| 17:12.52 | nevcairiel | by hooking GetActionCooldown and GetItemCooldown he ensured that it worked with all addons and the Blizz UI, without requiring to hook every _SetCooldown function |
| 17:13.04 | nevcairiel | the taint fallout was to be expected some day |
| 17:13.38 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 17:13.50 | nicoli_s | Ackis: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/01/esleeper-combines-cats-arduino-and-twitter-in-an-emac-shell-vi/ |
| 17:14.20 | foxlit | /emacs-hell-vi/ |
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| 17:17.45 | foxlit | I propose we redefine "lightweight" to mean "I-have-no-idea-what-I'm-doing" in most circumstances. |
| 17:19.07 | Lunessa | Any time I see the phrase "lightweight" used to describe an AddOn i feel a shiver go down my spine, as if someone had walked over my grave. |
| 17:20.04 | durcyn | "I removed all the configuration frames, so static memory consumption went from 52KiB to 51KiB. This owns." |
| 17:21.45 | Ackis | lol nicoli_s |
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| 17:24.29 | nicoli_s | isnt that awesome? |
| 17:27.46 | Fisker | the import handling fees are too damn high nicoli_s |
| 17:34.12 | Fisker | oh yeah Stanzilla |
| 17:34.14 | Fisker | blizzbucks |
| 17:36.28 | Stanzilla | wat |
| 17:37.33 | Stanzilla | beta bucks |
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| 17:42.42 | mckenziemc | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 17:42.43 | Fisker | i want blizzbucks instead Stanzilla |
| 17:42.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, mckenziemc. |
| 17:44.53 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:45.14 | Lopeppeppy | I am coincidentally having a seafood salad pita for lunch, Fisker. |
| 17:45.29 | Fisker | sucks to be you |
| 17:45.43 | karl_w_w | ~irc |
| 17:45.43 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 17:45.48 | karl_w_w | hm |
| 17:45.53 | karl_w_w | ~asktoask |
| 17:45.53 | purl | Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help, if they can. |
| 17:45.54 | karl_w_w | ? |
| 17:46.01 | Fisker | bought something cheap from china |
| 17:46.08 | Fisker | thought it was under the limit for import duties |
| 17:46.09 | Fisker | thought wrong |
| 17:46.11 | Fisker | ??? |
| 17:46.18 | Fisker | negative profit |
| 17:46.25 | Fisker | or deficit i guess? |
| 17:49.05 | foxlit | can't escape taxes, Fisker. |
| 17:49.12 | Fisker | i can die trying |
| 17:49.20 | foxlit | though I'm still waiting for someone to explain why it's legal for them to charge you VAT on orders from other EU states. |
| 17:49.46 | Fisker | weird |
| 17:49.50 | Fisker | doesn't sound legal |
| 17:52.10 | foxlit | "The VAT due on the transaction is payable on acquisition of the goods by the taxable customer in the Member State where the goods arrive. This is known as "intra-Community acquisition". The customer accounts for any VAT due in his normal VAT return at the rate in force in the country of destination." |
| 17:52.26 | foxlit | thanks, EC. |
| 17:52.54 | Lunessa | VAT - A way for the state to get paid every time a good or service changes hands. |
| 17:53.01 | Lunessa | FUCKING EVIL. |
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| 17:53.09 | foxlit | well, no, Lunessa. |
| 17:53.11 | Fisker | what does that mean? |
| 17:53.45 | foxlit | If it changes hands without you making a profit on it, the government does not get paid. |
| 17:53.52 | Fisker | That you'll pay VAT Source + VAT Target or VAT Target or VAT Source + (VAT Source - VAT Target)? |
| 17:54.02 | foxlit | Fisker: You pay VAT Target. |
| 17:54.05 | Fisker | k |
| 17:54.12 | Lunessa | There are exceptions. I was just pointing out the principle. |
| 17:54.18 | Fisker | well that sucks for books from the UK then |
| 17:54.19 | Fisker | bam |
| 17:54.24 | Fisker | or was it germany? |
| 17:54.26 | Fisker | can't remember |
| 17:54.35 | foxlit | Basically, everwhere. |
| 17:54.38 | foxlit | ^y |
| 17:54.52 | Fisker | i just recall in one of those countries the VAT for books is 0% |
| 17:54.54 | Fisker | i believe |
| 17:54.57 | Fisker | We're awesome |
| 17:55.00 | Fisker | 25% VAT ON EVERYTHING |
| 17:55.21 | foxlit | probably germany. UK is 20-ish on everything? |
| 17:55.48 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 17:55.53 | Fisker | confirm/deny |
| 17:55.54 | Fisker | or die |
| 17:56.38 | mckenziemc | confirms denial |
| 17:57.03 | Lunessa | It used to be that tourists got VAT refunded to them at border crossings Canada -> US, but I don't know if that's still the case. |
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| 17:57.50 | Fisker | usually we just paid VAT from the source country |
| 17:58.09 | Fisker | but i guess they had to get the money somewhere :( |
| 17:58.13 | Fisker | also good enough i guess |
| 17:58.19 | Fisker | better the money goes to us than the UK :P |
| 18:00.06 | Stanzilla | Fisker: 25 is not germany |
| 18:00.32 | Fisker | i know 25% is not germany |
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| 18:09.59 | Lunessa | http://www.amazingsuperpowers.com/2011/11/lunch-trade/ |
| 18:18.46 | Lopeppeppy | Grapes. |
| 18:19.20 | mckenziemc | Lopeppeppies |
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| 18:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | Puppies? |
| 18:34.53 | Lunessa | puppies traded for a mother's love? |
| 18:37.04 | Lopeppeppy | Puppies are solid masses of cuddly love, no need to trade. |
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| 18:41.17 | karl_w_w | wow, reading this review of a camera, 9 images of the camera all from different angles, yet none of them show the back of the camera |
| 18:41.24 | karl_w_w | how is that even possible |
| 18:43.00 | Lopeppeppy | concentration! |
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| 18:52.16 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2011/11/29/funny-pictures-done-explaining-internet-cat-mouse/ |
| 18:52.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | Why am I out of vodka? |
| 18:55.39 | mckenziemc | because you don't have any more? |
| 18:56.03 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Quit using it to clean your paint brushes. |
| 18:56.21 | alestane | Because you're at work? |
| 18:56.38 | Lopeppeppy | All good answers. |
| 18:56.57 | alestane | But are any of them right? |
| 18:57.01 | Lopeppeppy | I also have none at home, just a bit of rum. 2 more classes left. A dead horse to draw, and Guilder to blame for it. I'm swamped. |
| 18:58.29 | Lunessa | And please, be honest. It's for science. |
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| 19:03.00 | Fisker | shocks Lopeppeppy |
| 19:14.23 | karl_w_w | Fisker |
| 19:14.27 | karl_w_w | murder cnet for me |
| 19:16.03 | Lunessa | Fisker doesn't murder anyone, he just trolls them until in a fit of pique, they off themselves. |
| 19:16.36 | Fisker | i always murder someone |
| 19:16.36 | mckenziemc | murdurs karl_w_w for cnet |
| 19:16.39 | Fisker | next on my list is: |
| 19:16.52 | mckenziemc | murder* |
| 19:16.59 | Fisker | 1. People who made the rules for import |
| 19:17.13 | Fisker | 2. People at the post office who made up the import handling fees |
| 19:17.27 | Fisker | 3. People at Samsung for being lying sacks of shit |
| 19:17.39 | Fisker | 4. People at my local hardware pusher for being deceiving sacks of shit |
| 19:17.41 | Fisker | :3 |
| 19:17.56 | Fisker | It's actually turning into a christmas holiday show |
| 19:18.10 | Fisker | 24 days of Dexter - Fisker Edition |
| 19:18.11 | Lunessa | So, there are a lot of sacks of shit in your life. Maybe you should do something about that? I hear sanitation is the most amazing marvel. |
| 19:18.36 | Fisker | i should get notch while i'm at it anyway |
| 19:19.14 | karl_w_w | what has notch done lately that he's getting all the hate? |
| 19:19.26 | karl_w_w | show me on the doll where notch touched you |
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| 19:22.15 | starlon | : |
| 19:24.26 | Fisker | nothing karl_w_w |
| 19:24.34 | Fisker | he just didn't get his come-uppance for the Steam shit |
| 19:25.42 | pompy | hm 53.5mb patch today..? |
| 19:27.04 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/nka1q.jpg |
| 19:27.06 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:27.31 | Stanzilla | pompy: cinematic |
| 19:28.24 | Fisker | you mean "old" Stanzilla |
| 19:28.24 | nicoli_s | those yer kids ackis? :P |
| 19:29.53 | Stanzilla | Fisker: yes |
| 19:29.58 | Fisker | good |
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| 19:30.45 | Ackis | no :P |
| 19:31.02 | Ackis | remember the girl who was beat by her father (the judge) and she became famous on the internets? |
| 19:31.45 | starlon | Falsity. Judges don't beat people. |
| 19:32.21 | Ackis | well she did an "ask me anything" http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/mvc95/im_hillary_adams_the_girl_in_the_judge_william/ |
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| 19:34.05 | nicoli_s | obviously photoshopped ackis |
| 19:36.25 | kd3|netbook | sigh. |
| 19:36.28 | kd3|netbook | "Living Bomb’s interaction with Impact has been cleaned up, and should no longer sometimes fail to spread Living Bomb to new targets. We hope." |
| 19:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | I like that. We hope. |
| 19:40.32 | karl_w_w | <Ackis> http://i.imgur.com/nka1q.jpg <- evil twins usually are surprizing |
| 19:43.00 | starlon | Lopeppeppy: Since you like tanks. http://imgur.com/yGnKC |
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| 19:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh, pretty! |
| 19:47.18 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rk8FM8KqZE <- video that talks about certain babies not being born, and makes no mention of how, is creepy |
| 19:48.52 | karl_w_w | "every generation is known for something. let's be the one that murders defective babies in the womb" |
| 19:49.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oh for the love of cats. *sigh* |
| 19:49.41 | karl_w_w | omg peppy |
| 19:49.53 | karl_w_w | what cat thing did i see when you werent here... |
| 19:50.34 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno. I wasn't here. :) |
| 19:52.43 | Dagmar | Let us be the generation that takes the first step towards offsetting the genetic degradation incurred by tampering with the natural selection process. |
| 19:53.01 | karl_w_w | it wasnt this: http://www.roughoat.com/games/cat-a-pult.htm but it's funny what comes up when scrolling up through irc |
| 19:53.06 | Dagmar | Let us boldly go forth, and screen potential parents for republican leanings. |
| 19:53.50 | Lopeppeppy | Let us have control and choice in all things. |
| 19:53.57 | alestane | "Over 90% of the world's problems are caused by unfettered stupidity. I'm not saying stupidity should be a capital offense, but why not just take the warning labels off everything and wait for the problem to solve itself?" |
| 19:53.57 | karl_w_w | http://i.imgur.com/O4nqh.gif |
| 19:54.01 | karl_w_w | there we go |
| 19:54.11 | Lopeppeppy | I like the game where you spike bunnies after shooting them out of a cannon... |
| 19:54.25 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:54.25 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, kitty has a hugs! |
| 19:54.40 | Cairenn | I love that gif, it's just too cute |
| 19:54.48 | Lopeppeppy | I bet step 2 in that .gif, not shown, is kitty picking up the hind legs to eviscerate the teddy bear though. |
| 19:54.55 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 19:54.57 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 19:55.07 | Lopeppeppy | Am I wrong, cat people? |
| 19:56.09 | Lunessa | Cats do not hug, they grip for better evisceration. *nod* |
| 19:56.35 | Cairenn | doesn't eviscerate .... |
| 19:56.37 | Cairenn | ... often |
| 19:56.48 | Lopeppeppy | I do. It is sadness. |
| 19:56.50 | Lunessa | … hot |
| 19:56.55 | nicoli_s | my kitty hugs my leg when it doesnt want me to stop playing |
| 19:57.02 | nicoli_s | it then bites me of course |
| 19:57.03 | alestane | Oh, y'all weren't here when I linked this before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1qe2_cvDaU&feature=share |
| 19:57.11 | alestane | I still think they're playing it backward. |
| 19:57.32 | Cairenn | Yeah, definitely |
| 19:57.46 | nicoli_s | hilarious regardless |
| 19:57.47 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yes. |
| 19:57.56 | Lopeppeppy | Backward, Satan message totally decoded. |
| 19:58.06 | Cairenn | agrees with Lopeppeppy |
| 19:58.11 | nicoli_s | its funny my first thought was "how can i get my kitties to do that" |
| 19:58.46 | alestane | ...it's not inhumane if they do it themselves. |
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| 19:59.10 | alestane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=SEBLt6Kd9EY is also precious if you haven't seen it before. |
| 20:00.52 | nicoli_s | lol poor ducks |
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| 20:02.09 | Lunessa | Yeah, backwards. |
| 20:05.07 | alestane | Something Lunessa said before made me think of http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/backward/backward-2009-06-03.aspx |
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| 20:11.44 | karl_w_w | http://penta.com.au/index.php?main_page=dynamic_pages&page_name=pick-up-shipping useful. |
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| 20:31.03 | Adys | Groups such as NARAL Pro-Choice America Foundation and the ACLU are criticizing Apple over concerns that Siri, the "intelligent assistant" included with the iPhone 4S, doesn't give useful answers to requests for information about birth control and pregnancy-related issues. Apple has responded to the criticism, claiming it is merely a result of Siri's "beta" status. |
| 20:31.08 | Adys | I can see it now |
| 20:31.17 | Adys | The evil developers and product managers with fire in their eyes |
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| 20:31.35 | Adys | "Heheheheheh... let's avoid giving good answers to birth control queries" |
| 20:31.36 | Lunessa | Bah, bunk and hokum. |
| 20:32.15 | Adys | It's a sound marketing strategy. |
| 20:32.42 | Adys | If Apple users make more babies, those babies are likely to grow into Apple users themselves given time |
| 20:33.45 | Thunder_Child | huh, i did not know that GirlsGoneWilid does casting calls in their corp. office |
| 20:37.08 | Lunessa | http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/30/debunked-ridiculous-claims-of-pro-life-bias-in-siri/ |
| 20:38.00 | Thunder_Child | it's also kinda creepy that GGW moved across from UCLA |
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| 20:54.06 | alestane | Have to run off now; this is my penultimate class in this course. |
| 20:54.25 | Thunder_Child | i hope he knows that means one before last |
| 20:54.36 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, I'm very sure he knows that. |
| 20:55.20 | Thunder_Child | most people dont even know the word exists let alone how to use it |
| 20:55.33 | Lopeppeppy | alestane is S-M-R-T. |
| 20:57.00 | Dagmar | Nah, it' |
| 20:57.03 | Cairenn | nodnods |
| 20:57.25 | Dagmar | Nah, it's just the class where the professor won't let anyone submit things that weren't hand-written with an ink pen. |
| 20:57.59 | Thunder_Child | i usually do badly in thoes classes because no one can read my handwriting |
| 20:58.02 | Thunder_Child | not even me |
| 21:00.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm pondering in my brain, why is the prof's idea to draw a horse skeleton better than my idea to draw crack cocaine? |
| 21:02.13 | Thunder_Child | depth? |
| 21:05.10 | Lopeppeppy | So I draw a big pile of crack cocaine, lots of depth there. |
| 21:05.49 | karl_w_w | firefox using 1 gigglebyte of ram, how lulzy is that! |
| 21:06.17 | karl_w_w | 22 tabs |
| 21:07.00 | syrae | gives Cairenn cuddles for free! |
| 21:07.05 | TMc51 | and with the crack, you can bullshit your way by claiming that it's symbolic of the socio-political economic divide between socialites, and inner city youth, or something. isnt that what art students are best at, bullshit? |
| 21:07.06 | syrae | Limited time offer |
| 21:07.11 | Thunder_Child | Chome is using 2GB with 18 tabs |
| 21:07.13 | Cairenn | likes cuddles |
| 21:08.03 | syrae | Studies show that Cairenn is 80% cuddles |
| 21:08.09 | Cairenn | :) |
| 21:08.11 | Lopeppeppy | studies Cairenn |
| 21:08.17 | TMc51 | I thought it was 90%. |
| 21:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | I just like the way that the bones look, and they're much easier to come by. :) |
| 21:08.39 | karl_w_w | http://www.ht.com.au/list.hts?keyword=fh2 guys guys, pick a colour |
| 21:08.59 | TMc51 | black or silver. |
| 21:09.00 | Lopeppeppy | Blue. |
| 21:09.22 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone's is black, silver gets lost too easily, and pink/red are evil. |
| 21:09.24 | TMc51 | the other 3 arent very classy at all |
| 21:09.27 | Lopeppeppy | Wish they had green though. |
| 21:09.51 | karl_w_w | who'd buy green! |
| 21:09.56 | Cairenn | For you - black or silver |
| 21:09.56 | TMc51 | I would |
| 21:10.01 | TMc51 | just because it's green. |
| 21:10.11 | Cairenn | Depending on the shade, I would |
| 21:10.13 | karl_w_w | you're the guy who buys the green mini |
| 21:10.17 | TMc51 | like my eyes, and the contents of my wallet, and, errr, the best color on the Irish flag. :o |
| 21:10.21 | Lopeppeppy | My whole freakin' world would be green, if it were in the right tones. |
| 21:10.24 | karl_w_w | electric lime, no doubt |
| 21:10.30 | TMc51 | the green mini is the BEST |
| 21:10.38 | TMc51 | British Racing Green 4 life bro |
| 21:10.42 | Cairenn | Indeed! |
| 21:11.05 | TMc51 | actually, british Racing Green with the Antique White bonnet stripe. |
| 21:11.45 | karl_w_w | I was talking more http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/3148183140_a9be10db99.jpg than british racing :P |
| 21:11.45 | Lopeppeppy | This. http://www.mikesjournal.com/September%202007/Shades%20of%20Green.jpg |
| 21:11.48 | karl_w_w | otherwise i'd agree |
| 21:12.02 | TMc51 | ewwww |
| 21:12.13 | karl_w_w | oh thanks peppy |
| 21:12.16 | TMc51 | that color needs to stay on a Lotus Elise, and nothing else. |
| 21:12.23 | karl_w_w | a link to an arrangement of jpeg artifacts |
| 21:12.30 | karl_w_w | it's what I've always wanted :P |
| 21:13.29 | Lopeppeppy | Link works for me, it's a forest scene |
| 21:13.52 | karl_w_w | that is what it resembles yes :P |
| 21:14.05 | karl_w_w | it's a near enough approximation |
| 21:14.41 | karl_w_w | and I think I will go with blue actually |
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| 21:21.22 | karl_w_w | oh interesting, i can get it cheaper elsewhere if i get black or silver |
| 21:22.07 | Thunder_Child | which is it going to be karl_w_w, mone or color? |
| 21:22.54 | Thunder_Child | also, why that camera? |
| 21:23.12 | Thunder_Child | money* |
| 21:23.40 | karl_w_w | i believe money will win TC, as it's a gift :P |
| 21:23.44 | karl_w_w | checking other stores though |
| 21:24.01 | karl_w_w | hours of thought have gone into this selection, dont undermine it now |
| 21:24.38 | karl_w_w | the thing that tipped the balance was it has optical image stabilization where most cameras under $200 dont |
| 21:27.26 | Thunder_Child | karl_w_w: i just found quite a few under $200 with IS/OIS |
| 21:27.37 | karl_w_w | lots have digital |
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| 21:28.10 | Thunder_Child | i'm talking optical |
| 21:28.10 | karl_w_w | not many have optical and also generally good reviews and dont look like pieces of cheap plastic :P |
| 21:29.05 | Thunder_Child | oh...your prices are wildly different |
| 21:29.40 | karl_w_w | quite possible |
| 21:29.49 | karl_w_w | example? :P |
| 21:30.13 | Thunder_Child | http://www.ht.com.au/part/Z6189-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-FH27-digital-camera/detail.hts this is about $180 here |
| 21:33.01 | karl_w_w | http://www.iibuy.com.au/panasoniclumixdmcfh27kcompactdigitalcamerasilver-p-191451.html#.TtfyklKlPe8 |
| 21:33.50 | Thunder_Child | well, that is a better version of what you were going to buy |
| 21:33.54 | karl_w_w | do wonder if that is a mistake |
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| 22:05.04 | Ycarene | http://www.fark.com/comments/6779235/BCS-declares-Germany-winner-of-WWII the comments in the thread are better the article it's based on. |
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| 22:31.02 | karl_w_w | downloaded: 184 mb. wasted: 80 mb (619 hash fails) |
| 22:31.05 | karl_w_w | sighs |
| 22:31.42 | kd3|netbook | yay for torrents getting played with? |
| 22:32.15 | Fisker | hey Curse |
| 22:32.20 | Fisker | Fuck you |
| 22:32.23 | Fisker | Regards, |
| 22:32.25 | Fisker | Gabe Newell |
| 22:32.27 | Fisker | http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/skyrim |
| 22:35.08 | kd3|netbook | huh |
| 22:35.49 | Fisker | Who is gonna bother with skyrimnexus and curse when you can get all from Steam :3 |
| 22:36.05 | Corrodias2 | people who want a wider selection? |
| 22:36.06 | Fisker | om nom noms the convenience |
| 22:36.23 | Fisker | Why would people use the other services exclusively Corrodias2 ? |
| 22:36.26 | Corrodias2 | anyway, could be awesome. we'll see. depends on what "the best mods" means |
| 22:36.35 | Fisker | Well maybe Curse can win some guys over for moneys |
| 22:36.44 | Fisker | but Valf will probably do the same |
| 22:36.58 | Corrodias2 | i have no idea what you're saying now |
| 22:38.20 | Fisker | Curse might be able to keep some people exclusive to curse because you get money from the number of installs and stuff |
| 22:38.24 | Fisker | But Valve will probably do the same |
| 22:38.45 | Kaelten | Fisker: :P |
| 22:38.53 | Fisker | right channel Kaelten |
| 22:38.58 | Kaelten | lol |
| 22:39.03 | Fisker | This is totally why Gabe didn't come to your party |
| 22:39.07 | Kaelten | hey gotta love competition |
| 22:39.21 | Arrowmaster | somebody said they saw gabe at the party |
| 22:39.38 | Fisker | oh |
| 22:39.44 | Lunessa | Curse plied me with whiskey. Three years running. |
| 22:40.09 | Kaelten | yeah I thought he was there |
| 22:40.14 | Arrowmaster | i thought you couldnt drink the coke and whiskey |
| 22:40.16 | Fisker | With Steam you'll turn into a british douchebag with your own forums |
| 22:40.25 | Kaelten | Lunessa: next year will make 4 I think |
| 22:40.50 | Fisker | isn't it awesome Lunessa ? |
| 22:41.03 | Lunessa | totally |
| 22:41.04 | Lunessa | :) |
| 22:41.22 | kd3|netbook | gabe was there!? |
| 22:41.54 | Arrowmaster | i didnt see him but somebody said they saw him |
| 22:42.08 | Fisker | he was invited |
| 22:43.15 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Diet coke is the work of satan |
| 22:43.33 | Lunessa | I drank plant of their whiskey before I accidentally got dosed with aspartame. |
| 22:44.46 | Arrowmaster | and forced innocent me into drinking the rest of it so you wouldnt accidentally drink any more |
| 22:44.54 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 22:45.25 | Torhal|work | At gunpoint, don't forget. |
| 22:45.30 | Torhal|work | AND swordpoint. |
| 22:45.42 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:46.25 | karl_w_w | gun-that-shoots-swords-point |
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| 22:48.38 | pompy | ~lart Torhal|work |
| 22:48.38 | purl | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs Torhal|work |
| 22:57.34 | Torhal|work | ~whalecrit pompy |
| 22:57.35 | purl | ACTION crits pompy with a mathematically skilled whale named Isaac for #NaN. pompy dies |
| 23:04.15 | foxlit | oh great, reforger phasing |
| 23:06.52 | karl_w_w | nice, youtube has changed. again. |
| 23:07.20 | karl_w_w | it's looking very osx |
| 23:10.24 | Cide | part of the ongoing redesigns to integrate with google+ and its design direction |
| 23:12.20 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2011/12/facebook-data-center/ - Feels like a puff-piece. |
| 23:14.47 | karl_w_w | whats the name of the film, some old musical where the guy runs up the wall (or something) and does a backflip? |
| 23:16.17 | karl_w_w | ah, apparently it is singing in the rain |
| 23:16.24 | karl_w_w | i thought it was but where |
| 23:16.59 | Fisker | old karl_w_w |
| 23:17.26 | karl_w_w | pats Fisker |
| 23:17.40 | Fisker | hey |
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| 23:23.03 | Shirik | best buff bars |
| 23:23.04 | Shirik | go |
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| 23:25.03 | Shirik | hi cide |
| 23:25.10 | Shirik | I have a new computer |
| 23:25.13 | Shirik | because my laptop died |
| 23:25.15 | Shirik | youjelly? |
| 23:27.53 | karl_w_w | ive never seen a point in buff bars myself |
| 23:28.15 | foxlit | You know what I need? A siren that goes off when water shield fades. |
| 23:28.32 | Shirik | karl_w_w: Primarily that the default bars just take up too much space |
| 23:28.41 | Shirik | and don't expand in a way that lends itself to keeping your UI organized |
| 23:28.59 | foxlit | there are no default bars. |
| 23:29.11 | foxlit | Default buff buttons seem sane. |
| 23:29.11 | karl_w_w | foxlit: |
| 23:29.12 | karl_w_w | um |
| 23:29.19 | Shirik | whatever |
| 23:29.21 | karl_w_w | well would help if i remembered the addon name |
| 23:29.39 | karl_w_w | ShieldsUp |
| 23:30.08 | karl_w_w | best addon I ever got for my shaman |
| 23:30.34 | Lunessa | foxlit: No, no you don't. It'll be going off so often that you'll hate it, your raid, and the very idea of being a rest shaman. |
| 23:31.13 | foxlit | should qq to blizzard for extra charges, tbh |
| 23:31.37 | karl_w_w | somebody did a couple of months ago didnt they? |
| 23:31.45 | karl_w_w | and a blue said that's the way it is, suck it up |
| 23:31.55 | foxlit | that's the default policy until you make a change. |
| 23:32.19 | karl_w_w | blizzard dont listen to common sense. |
| 23:32.37 | foxlit | I think they said they're looking at consistency in what expends charges (and that pulsing aoe should not), but yeah, it's just idle talk. |
| 23:32.49 | Lunessa | I find myself refresh Water Shield after every third or fourth heal. It gets used up fast. |
| 23:33.03 | foxlit | I'm still doing 5-mans, so it can ordinarily last |
| 23:33.05 | karl_w_w | really Lunessa? o.O |
| 23:33.13 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 23:33.18 | foxlit | but everything is oh-so-stressful during boss encounters with a gear-limited mana pool |
| 23:33.29 | karl_w_w | the only fight it's leaked away fast for me was beth during smouldering devastation |
| 23:33.32 | Xyphoid | i just ended up with a big power aura for I HAVE NO WATER SHIELD |
| 23:34.37 | foxlit | http://s.cdn.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw12556.jpg |
| 23:34.43 | Lunessa | I find I'm burning through my Water Shield charges often. Not every single fight, but every single boss fight. |
| 23:34.50 | foxlit | Every time I consider power auras, I see that screenshot, and I think to myself "no" |
| 23:35.17 | Stanzilla | weak auras, go |
| 23:35.26 | Lunessa | foxlit: WeakAuras is similar, but with less horrid default art included. |
| 23:35.27 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 23:35.50 | Lunessa | Also, aren't you handy with Photoshop? |
| 23:36.14 | foxlit | It's the configuration design I object more to than the graphics. I'm sure I could make myself a nice glow texture |
| 23:36.35 | foxlit | heh, a forest of tabs. Not better. |
| 23:37.01 | Lunessa | Yeah, a lot of AddOn authors really are clueless about UI. |
| 23:37.02 | karl_w_w | the only temptation I have to use power auras is that the default ones dont show 2 charges of fingers of frost |
| 23:37.11 | karl_w_w | otherwise why bother setting it up? |
| 23:37.30 | Stanzilla | boss debuff alerts etc |
| 23:37.49 | karl_w_w | dbm tells you the important things :P] |
| 23:37.53 | Stanzilla | also you can do alot of clever shit with WA |
| 23:38.42 | Fisker | Hey Shirik |
| 23:39.02 | Xyphoid | don't suppose it import my existing powerauras guff? i'd love to get away from the poweraura UI |
| 23:39.12 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 23:39.19 | Fisker | :) |
| 23:39.51 | foxlit | thinking about it, I could probably steal blizzard spell alert textures |
| 23:40.02 | Fisker | thief |
| 23:40.13 | karl_w_w | copyright piracy is theft |
| 23:40.23 | karl_w_w | if you believe the content distributors |
| 23:40.31 | Fisker | mad? |
| 23:40.32 | Lunessa | foxlit: Easily. The art is right there for the using. :) |
| 23:44.18 | Lunessa | Schadenfreude - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657437978 |
| 23:45.56 | Cairenn | awwww, what a shame |
| 23:46.00 | Cairenn | boohoohoo |
| 23:46.13 | mckenziemc1 | pats Cairenn |
| 23:46.51 | Arrowmaster | are you going to reply? |
| 23:47.07 | Lunessa | I almost posted "lolwowmatrix" |
| 23:47.21 | karl_w_w | ooh ooh |
| 23:47.22 | Lunessa | But I'm refraining |
| 23:47.23 | karl_w_w | ill post |
| 23:47.26 | Arrowmaster | they are asking what else they can use |
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| 23:50.36 | Arrowmaster | whos larwood? |
| 23:50.41 | Arrowmaster | that somebody in here? |
| 23:51.35 | Lunessa | We'll never know! |
| 23:51.52 | Arrowmaster | must be you |
| 23:51.59 | karl_w_w | somebody must know |
| 23:52.47 | foxlit | It was Lunessa! |
| 23:52.59 | foxlit | </wild accusations> |
| 23:53.09 | Lunessa | I can state categorically that it wasn't me. |
| 23:54.42 | karl_w_w | what kind of a name is wowmatrix anyway |
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