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| 00:11.44 | Adys_ | Stanzilla: saw |
| 00:11.53 | Adys_ | Stanzilla: as for the first link ill check later |
| 00:12.14 | Stanzilla | Adys_: it's the same, just the video before google deleted and later re-added it |
| 00:12.31 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY0mDRrqcVU |
| 00:16.11 | Arrowmaster | whos got halo anniversary |
| 00:21.40 | Stanzilla | me |
| 00:21.40 | Fisker | hey |
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| 00:23.41 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 00:24.10 | Fisker | d3? |
| 00:24.12 | bluspacecow | *logs in* *no UI errors* Ha! |
| 00:24.18 | foxlit | "We felt it was important to let more people get through the fights in normal difficulty, make videos, strat guides, update their mods, etc. before we let everyone take a crack at Deathwing." |
| 00:24.26 | foxlit | you did what now? |
| 00:24.46 | bluspacecow | logged into wow with no UI errors |
| 00:25.08 | Arrowmaster | Stanzilla: coop? |
| 00:28.22 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: I have no xbox atm :D |
| 00:28.38 | Stanzilla | Fisker: is it working again? |
| 00:30.51 | Xuerian | foxlit: Well, since top guilds do that anyway on the PTR and betas.. |
| 00:31.41 | Xinhuan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLqxJlGZXXA <----- Fan revision of the wow 4.3 trailer, this is fantastic hahaha |
| 00:31.55 | Xinhuan | Bibi ^ |
| 00:32.26 | Xinhuan | NEVER MIND, its already linked tehre |
| 00:32.28 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 00:32.37 | foxlit | Xinhuan: RANDOM VOICE OVERS EVERYWHERE |
| 00:32.41 | Xinhuan | though not on front page yet |
| 00:33.02 | Xinhuan | well it did make a difference heh |
| 00:33.16 | Xinhuan | though, it might be a bit overdone |
| 00:33.32 | foxlit | Roughly the same level of crap as the original trailer |
| 00:33.52 | foxlit | The original lacked audio; this just throws noise at you. |
| 00:38.44 | kd3 | well I'll be damned... it's actually flurrying |
| 00:38.58 | kd3 | shockingly, work wasn't out of milk and bread yet. I suspect that won't last |
| 00:39.18 | Thunder_Child | flurries kd3 |
| 00:39.48 | kd3 | nothing will stick... the upper atmosphere's cold... ~36F down here |
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| 00:45.58 | Arrowmaster | kd3: well up here its sticking to my car and the grass |
| 00:46.09 | kd3 | you're a bit further north than I am |
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| 00:46.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah more than a bit |
| 00:47.23 | Arrowmaster | http://thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=45309 |
| 00:47.34 | Xuerian | hahahaha |
| 00:48.14 | mckenziemc | http://thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=95954 : / |
| 00:48.23 | kd3 | emails away |
| 00:49.18 | Arrowmaster | got it |
| 00:50.23 | durcyn | "give a man a gun and he can rob a bank. give a man a bank and he can rob the world" |
| 00:50.48 | BlackNet | lol |
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| 01:13.44 | Ketho | checks his mail; proceeds to thank kd3 |
| 01:15.10 | kd3 | yw |
| 01:33.32 | Arrowmaster | pompy: did you ever get the dive more than 30ft into water challenge done in ACR? i cant find a place to do an actual dive |
| 01:34.00 | cogwheel | SHAUOESNTHAOEUSTHNAEOUSTHNUAOESNTHUAOENTHSAOEUSNTHUAOE |
| 01:34.04 | cogwheel | @blizzard downloader |
| 01:34.47 | TMc51 | Tell us where the bad downloader touched you, Cogwheel. |
| 01:35.10 | cogwheel | that's ;JAFSD;LKJASDF;KJLADSF;KJLFASD;LKJFASDLKJ;ASDF;LKJFASD in QWERTY |
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| 01:36.45 | mckenziemc | ',.p |
| 01:37.05 | cogwheel | why does my wife's comp get pretty much full speed whereas i get "your computer appears to be behind a firewall" and 1-30 KB/s? |
| 01:37.12 | cogwheel | we're on the same router |
| 01:37.15 | cogwheel | no port forwarding |
| 01:37.18 | cogwheel | same OS |
| 01:37.28 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: upnp enabled on router? |
| 01:37.45 | Dagmar | Probably one of you has uPnP working and the other doesn't is what I'm thinking |
| 01:37.54 | Dagmar | ...or, more likely, they're both requesting the same ports. |
| 01:38.01 | cogwheel | she's been done for hours |
| 01:38.02 | Arrowmaster | well most upnp things only work with one at a time |
| 01:38.13 | cogwheel | mine's the only one trying |
| 01:38.26 | Dagmar | That might be, but you definitely can't forward port 3724 to two different machines at once through that mechanism. |
| 01:38.28 | Arrowmaster | it might still have the forwarding setup to her computer |
| 01:38.47 | cogwheel | and unless upnp was enabled by default, it's not |
| 01:38.49 | Arrowmaster | i know some things that use upnp and dont remove the rules when they are done |
| 01:39.39 | cogwheel | yeah it is... |
| 01:40.37 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: did i ever tell you about the university nat question i saw once on the xbox ambassador chat? |
| 01:40.38 | syrae | I should probably fix my addon so it works again. Hrm |
| 01:40.46 | syrae | I don't wanna :( |
| 01:41.04 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Nope |
| 01:42.00 | Arrowmaster | the question was something along the lines of 'im the network administrator at a university and the students in the dorms say that they dont have open nat, how can i fix this' |
| 01:42.12 | Dagmar | LOL |
| 01:42.31 | Dagmar | "Hire a consultant to do your job" would be the answer there |
| 01:42.57 | Dagmar | Exactly what it looks like |
| 01:43.00 | Arrowmaster | if i would have seen the question soon enough and snagged it to answer myself i would have been like 'which university do you work for? i want to know where to send my resume' |
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| 01:48.12 | cogwheel | so is port forwarding really the only way to get the downloader to work well? |
| 01:48.50 | Xuerian | Set it to HTTP only.. |
| 01:48.56 | Duman | my download goes plenty quickly with PtP off |
| 01:49.01 | cogwheel | mine doesn't |
| 01:49.08 | Xuerian | Then you might have some other problem, yeah |
| 01:49.48 | cogwheel | my only peer right now is http direct, and it's going 3KB/s |
| 01:50.03 | cogwheel | disabling it doesn't make a significant difference |
| 01:50.08 | Xuerian | And you can download say, some random ISO at full bore? |
| 01:50.22 | cogwheel | of course. |
| 01:51.08 | Xuerian | Thought so =\. I can't say I have any specific advice with the downloader. I'm behind a windows box with a routing firewall and a router and neither have ports forwarded and it works fine on http.. |
| 01:51.14 | Dagmar | cogwheel: BT is pretty dependent on tit-for-tat, so yeah |
| 01:51.30 | Xuerian | windows-router-windows, that is. ISP issues.. anyway, even torrents work fine. =\ |
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| 01:51.46 | cogwheel | Dagmar: not sure how that's relevant. i get great speeds with bittorrent |
| 01:52.14 | Dagmar | cogwheel: yeah and if no inbound connections can be made, it'll take a WHILE to gather enough connections that it'll start to matter |
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| 01:52.36 | Dagmar | Anyway, if you guys are on the same local LAN just copy the files |
| 01:53.06 | cogwheel | did that last patch and it still insisted on downloading 900MB |
| 01:53.10 | cogwheel | or was it 1.9GB |
| 01:53.16 | cogwheel | i remember a 9 .... |
| 01:53.31 | Dagmar | Something went very wrong there |
| 01:53.37 | cogwheel | that's what i said. |
| 01:53.40 | cogwheel | the first time. |
| 01:53.45 | Dagmar | If the client appears to be up to date, the downloader doesn't even bother |
| 01:53.47 | cogwheel | the second time i thought i just did it wrong again |
| 01:53.54 | cogwheel | the third time i wanted to kick someone/thing |
| 01:54.01 | bluspacecow | whats going on this channel |
| 01:54.03 | Dagmar | I've updated someone else's machine about six times that way now |
| 01:54.06 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 01:54.13 | cogwheel | so have i |
| 01:54.16 | bluspacecow | patchup.info is a good site for patch days cog |
| 01:54.22 | cogwheel | which is why it pissed me off so. |
| 01:54.32 | Dagmar | I actually have a _script_ now that just zips the whole thign into a network fileshare and another script that loads the client from there |
| 01:54.40 | bluspacecow | also i find i need to delete wow.tfil and wow.mfil to get the launcher to see cetain updates |
| 01:55.07 | cogwheel | i copied those from the update source |
| 01:55.15 | cogwheel | (mrs. cog's comp) |
| 01:55.44 | Dagmar | Ah... See, I'm not picky. |
| 01:55.45 | cogwheel | luckily the background downloader has been good to me. i only had 19mb to dl this time |
| 01:56.02 | Dagmar | I grab ALL the files except the Interface/Addons director and basically the other repos of lua |
| 01:56.47 | stako | did they change ActionButtonNormalTexture? |
| 01:57.25 | cogwheel | (it's done now) |
| 01:58.07 | BlackNet | ok what happened to createpanel in this release? |
| 01:58.15 | BlackNet | seems that things using that is not working |
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| 02:05.29 | cogwheel | Dagmar: perhaps that time "downloading" was actually "copying things to cache" |
| 02:06.05 | cogwheel | i notice it'll sometimes say there is stuff downloading but no significant network activity and lots of writing in wow\cache |
| 02:06.34 | mckenziemc | something gets stored in a folder outside of wow's folder |
| 02:06.38 | mckenziemc | it might be that |
| 02:07.21 | mckenziemc | program files\common files\blizzard entertainment i think |
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| 02:08.34 | cogwheel | there's programdata\blizzard entertainment\battle.net\ & \starcraft ii\ |
| 02:08.44 | cogwheel | battle.net is only ~130mb |
| 02:17.26 | Arrowmaster | 20 more fragments to find in ACR |
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| 02:35.24 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Might very well be |
| 02:35.54 | Dagmar | Oh! |
| 02:36.21 | mckenziemc | oh? |
| 02:36.21 | Dagmar | Bah nevermind. Invalidated that theory already |
| 02:36.36 | Dagmar | I was thinking about what if one of those machines were 32-bit |
| 02:37.18 | Kraps | would you like to internet? http://i.imgur.com/PcotR.jpg |
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| 03:01.52 | Cairenn | wonders just how many of the guys in the channel are watching the Victoria Secret's Fashion Show now :p |
| 03:03.39 | bluspacecow | say is /dump GetNetStats() returning anything for the last 2 parameters for anyone ? |
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| 03:09.08 | Dagmar | Cairenn: Is that streaming perhaps? |
| 03:09.18 | Cairenn | shrugs |
| 03:09.38 | Cairenn | It's on right now, I wouldn't be surprised if it's being streamed as well |
| 03:09.52 | Dagmar | Not on CBS's site. |
| 03:10.06 | Dagmar | It's CBS tho so they may well put it up there like they do a lot of their other stuff before the week is out |
| 03:11.22 | Dagmar | Encoder 1 [ HDPVR : /dev/video0 ] is local on mythtv and is recording 'The Victoria's Secret Fashion Show' on WTVFDT. This recording is scheduled to end at 10:00 PM. |
| 03:11.25 | Dagmar | :) |
| 03:11.50 | Dagmar | Only missed 11 minutes of it. |
| 03:11.59 | Dagmar | Goodness me how will I ever figure out the plot! |
| 03:12.13 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 03:12.52 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 03:25.23 | stako | tekkub |
| 03:27.33 | pompy | Arrowmaster: 20? they are on your map! |
| 03:27.45 | Arrowmaster | im done already |
| 03:28.05 | pompy | well yeah. |
| 03:28.39 | pompy | how was the fond memories achievement, that kinda looks annoying! |
| 03:28.58 | pompy | and i wonder why its only worth 20 gs! |
| 03:29.43 | Arrowmaster | the 100% sync one? it was easy since only the main sequence ones count for it, not any side missions |
| 03:30.21 | pompy | some of the 100% syncs are a bitch though. |
| 03:30.27 | Arrowmaster | games idling right now as i wait to get enough money for the books |
| 03:30.36 | Arrowmaster | then i only need the thief looting |
| 03:32.42 | pompy | yeah, oh, i had to idle my game the other day because i didnt have enough to do anything, that was quite annoying. |
| 03:33.48 | Arrowmaster | i started doing the city stuff and all my money was gone before i realized it cost money to start those missions |
| 03:34.05 | pompy | you need like 295k A .. total for those 4 expensive books |
| 04:22.10 | Arrowmaster | ok ive got 296k A now, i hope its enough |
| 04:22.51 | pompy | should be |
| 04:22.52 | pompy | damn |
| 04:26.55 | pompy | Arrowmaster: i still really dunno how to make "easy money" in it yet |
| 04:27.13 | Arrowmaster | nope not enough |
| 04:27.23 | Arrowmaster | i have 10k left and need a 65k book still |
| 04:31.50 | pompy | another hour? |
| 04:42.16 | Xuerian | Cairenn: XLoot works with 4.3, will update toc version at some point |
| 04:42.23 | Cairenn | thanks |
| 04:43.31 | Xuerian | Cairenn: (And 1.0, and group/monitor/master..) |
| 04:43.40 | Cairenn | *nod* |
| 04:45.31 | Xuerian | Thanks. |
| 04:49.04 | pompy | hm., i didnt get tyraels charger in the mail |
| 04:51.02 | Ackis | rhyloth is bugged :( |
| 04:55.50 | Arrowmaster | pompy: ive yet to get a payment from the bank in 40 minutes |
| 04:56.33 | Sintacks | anyone with a rogue know for sure if the ring will charge while you are logged out ... |
| 05:02.29 | pompy | Arrowmaster: ut oh, that doesnt make sense |
| 05:03.01 | Arrowmaster | i think the game is buggy and resets the timer when you zone or goto a bank |
| 05:03.06 | Arrowmaster | or other things |
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| 05:27.54 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.3.x ToC: 40300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Happy Birthday Esamynn! |
| 05:29.35 | pompy | Arrowmaster: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/628358-assassins-creed-revelations/61121268 |
| 05:33.17 | pompy | http://youtu.be/Zw684xM2cUo |
| 05:39.47 | pompy | Arrowmaster: so everytime i bought stuff from the blackmarket dealer , then the counter would reset to 0? Shit. |
| 05:47.09 | karl_w_w | if people keep spelling transmogrification and its shortened forms with an R before the G I am going to lose my mind |
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| 05:49.11 | mckenziemc | transmortifies karl_w_w |
| 05:54.29 | pompy | wheres my tyrael charger!? |
| 05:56.59 | mckenziemc | i transmortified that too |
| 05:59.53 | Raimondas | It's in outer space |
| 06:01.00 | pompy | its not in my mail! |
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| 06:04.35 | pompy | [12:59:20 AM][2] [80:Garlem]: has any one goten [Reins of the Blazing Drake] yet? |
| 06:04.39 | pompy | yeah on teh first day! |
| 06:04.41 | pompy | pshh |
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| 06:28.23 | Sintacks | my computer doesn't like playing both SC2 and WoW at the same time ... |
| 06:32.52 | Wobin | haha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuTA7DYklRo&feature=related |
| 06:33.20 | Mr_Rabies | oh man, LFR is awesome |
| 06:33.25 | mckenziemc | Sintacks: you shouldn't let your computer play, that's against the Terms of Use |
| 06:33.46 | Sintacks | smartass |
| 06:40.15 | Mr_Rabies | i'm a computer, what now |
| 06:43.55 | Thunder_Child | you are a wetware computer Mr_Rabies |
| 06:44.34 | Mr_Rabies | i am thoroughly embedded in the meatspace |
| 06:45.04 | bluspacecow | *bevis chuckle* he called you wet |
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| 06:45.24 | Thunder_Child | are you a meat popsicle? |
| 06:49.39 | pompy | oh ok http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657435877 |
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| 07:05.51 | Mr_Rabies | awww yeahhh you can search most descriptors on items with search, not just the name |
| 07:06.14 | Mr_Rabies | like "Two" will highlight two handed items, "axe" will highlight axes |
| 07:12.06 | karl_w_w | lfr is too easy :( |
| 07:12.13 | karl_w_w | 4 bosses, 2 wipes |
| 07:12.29 | karl_w_w | and both of those wipes were simply cos ppl didnt know anything about what was going on |
| 07:14.43 | airtonix | i can't live without my radio |
| 07:15.25 | airtonix | hey wobin |
| 07:15.27 | airtonix | umad? |
| 07:15.49 | karl_w_w | jacksyfies a radio into airtonix |
| 07:15.50 | airtonix | are you with iinet, internode, bigpond, or one of the other two ? |
| 07:16.13 | airtonix | how awesome is australia |
| 07:16.17 | karl_w_w | not very |
| 07:16.19 | airtonix | lol@rest-of-world |
| 07:16.35 | karl_w_w | http://delimiter.com.au/2011/11/29/self-interest-is-ruling-australias-piracy-debate/ <- made some good points |
| 07:16.41 | airtonix | karl_w_w: apparently media moguls can't follow step two of google maps |
| 07:16.50 | airtonix | kyack across the indian ocean |
| 07:16.54 | airtonix | hoho |
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| 07:21.14 | airtonix | karl_w_w: how awesome was that judge from USA who said that certain german owned and hosted domain names should listen to american law and deactivate themselves |
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| 07:21.23 | airtonix | clearly judge does not internet |
| 07:21.33 | Sargeras | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHJOz_y9rZE |
| 07:21.44 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 07:21.54 | Cairenn | smoogles Sargeras! |
| 07:22.00 | Cairenn | Heya sexy :) |
| 07:22.03 | Sargeras | :D |
| 07:22.05 | Sargeras | hallos |
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| 07:24.20 | karl_w_w | that was a very american thing of him to do airtonix |
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| 07:24.49 | airtonix | karl_w_w: did you know the world == usa, but the globe = what we call the world |
| 07:24.57 | airtonix | insanity |
| 07:25.46 | Cairenn | Sargeras: how are you and your lovely lady doing? |
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| 07:26.19 | Sargeras | Cairenn: we're doing alright :0 |
| 07:26.22 | Sargeras | :) |
| 07:26.26 | Cairenn | Good :) |
| 07:26.31 | Sargeras | She's asleep, and I'm working on a VM |
| 07:28.39 | Sargeras | pokes Dolby |
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| 08:22.37 | karl_w_w | so anyway, what's the whole story with benedictus? |
| 08:23.17 | karl_w_w | cos the dungeon was all like "oh look, there's the benedictus guy. oh i guess he's a bad guy now let's kill him" |
| 08:25.53 | Raimondas | He turned out to be a cultist., it seems. |
| 08:26.40 | mckenziemc | did you not do the prerequisite quests to twilight highlands? (alliance) |
| 08:28.30 | Raimondas | He's obviously Horde :P |
| 08:28.45 | mckenziemc | i know he has alliance characters |
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| 08:32.11 | karl_w_w | there were no prerequisite quests |
| 08:32.32 | karl_w_w | cos i didnt do any and i went in and did the dungeon :P |
| 08:32.52 | Raimondas | karl_w_w: He means the level 84 quests to unlock Twilight Highlands |
| 08:32.58 | Raimondas | on Alliance side |
| 08:33.05 | karl_w_w | oh yeah |
| 08:33.21 | karl_w_w | i dont remember seeing benedictus there anywhere |
| 08:33.39 | Raimondas | And how do you think a big pile of explosives got into his cathedral without him being involved? |
| 08:33.53 | karl_w_w | magic |
| 08:33.58 | ZTrek | are there any RoM addon developers here? |
| 08:34.03 | karl_w_w | the script said so |
| 08:34.04 | karl_w_w | idk |
| 08:34.05 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 08:34.10 | karl_w_w | rogues took it in |
| 08:36.46 | mckenziemc | he's the npc that attacks you when you go to disarm the explosives : / |
| 08:37.12 | ZTrek | I have a question guys...why won't this work? if table.key then do something end I'm trying to find out if the table contains the without iterating over the entire table |
| 08:37.36 | mckenziemc | is table.key false? |
| 08:37.53 | ZTrek | no it's true in my test |
| 08:39.17 | ZTrek | but yet it won't do the part between then and end |
| 08:39.31 | mckenziemc | did you mean to do table[key] ? |
| 08:39.44 | ZTrek | I tried that too |
| 08:39.57 | ZTrek | same non result |
| 08:40.05 | Maldivia | and table is in scope in your function ? |
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| 08:41.08 | ZTrek | the table is declared outside of all functions |
| 08:41.27 | ZTrek | and populated |
| 08:41.39 | karl_w_w | sure you're populating it correctly? |
| 08:41.44 | Maldivia | declared local in the file? and if so, on a line before your function ? |
| 08:41.45 | ZTrek | yes |
| 08:42.08 | ZTrek | not local no |
| 08:42.28 | ZTrek | but yes before the function |
| 08:44.44 | Maldivia | should work then |
| 08:44.56 | ZTrek | I know it should |
| 08:46.01 | karl_w_w | is the table name unique enough that some other addon isnt trying to use it? :P |
| 08:46.13 | ZTrek | yes |
| 08:46.23 | karl_w_w | out of ideas then |
| 08:47.29 | Maldivia | you don't have a local variable in the function with the same name as the table ?:) |
| 08:48.27 | ZTrek | I think I know why....my test function is part of my own custom addon |
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| 08:49.10 | ZTrek | in other words I'm running a function to test the addon from another addon |
| 08:49.26 | Ratness | grr i hate freenode |
| 08:49.30 | Maldivia | still, it's a global table, should be accessible from anywhere |
| 08:49.41 | ZTrek | yes it should |
| 08:50.00 | mckenziemc | is the something in 'do something' in scope |
| 08:50.59 | ZTrek | for my test it's just a print string |
| 08:51.38 | mckenziemc | and you're sure that conditional is even being reached? |
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| 08:52.59 | ZTrek | yes I have print statements around it |
| 08:53.19 | mckenziemc | add print(table) and print(table.key) right before the if |
| 08:53.19 | ZTrek | before and after |
| 08:53.39 | ZTrek | ok i'll try that |
| 08:54.09 | mckenziemc | that's what i do when something works -- then i find out i did something really stupid :( |
| 08:54.17 | mckenziemc | when something doesn't work* |
| 08:58.20 | Ratness | I seriously beleive that addons are preventing Blizzard/Activision from adding controller support... |
| 08:59.06 | Ratness | How many more expansions do you expect them to release? |
| 09:02.09 | mckenziemc | 42 |
| 09:02.37 | Raimondas | One after MoP |
| 09:02.43 | Raimondas | Then WoW is done |
| 09:03.33 | Maldivia | well.. EQ is still getting updated |
| 09:03.43 | ZTrek | ok I got this error when trying print(table) |
| 09:03.45 | ZTrek | [BugMessage]: [string "?"]:288: bad argument #1 to 'match' (string expected, got table) |
| 09:04.10 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 09:04.42 | MeStinkBAD | updates are not the same as expansions |
| 09:04.46 | Xuerian | Raimondas: WoW? Done? |
| 09:04.48 | Xuerian | You're funny. |
| 09:05.09 | Xuerian | They're going to make expansions till there's no subscribers or their subs have moved to their new mmo |
| 09:05.21 | MeStinkBAD | They will move on |
| 09:05.23 | Xuerian | Blizzard might have had the decency to move on |
| 09:05.29 | Xuerian | Actiblizzard does not. |
| 09:05.31 | ZTrek | new mmo? |
| 09:06.01 | mckenziemc | titan |
| 09:06.22 | MeStinkBAD | For one thing migration to consoles/non-pc devices is going to become more and more inevitable |
| 09:06.37 | Kalroth | they'll still make a profit with 1 million subs, so hell yes they'll continue with 10 million subs :) |
| 09:08.11 | Raimondas | I'm not playing WoW on my tablet anytime soon |
| 09:08.27 | MeStinkBAD | no you'll play a different MMO |
| 09:08.53 | Xuerian | I'd personally wager the only thing that is going to fully eliminate the PC gaming market is going to be full-on VR |
| 09:09.18 | MeStinkBAD | Consoles are far more numerious than PCs.... and far less troublesome |
| 09:09.22 | Xuerian | ha |
| 09:09.23 | Xuerian | ha ha |
| 09:09.30 | Xuerian | ha ah aha haha -error, rrod- |
| 09:09.41 | Xuerian | ahem, anyway |
| 09:09.43 | MeStinkBAD | versus BSOD |
| 09:10.06 | Xuerian | on with the ahahahahaha OOPS NETWORK DOWN CAN'T DO ANYTHING |
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| 09:10.17 | Xuerian | Hey I'll just pop in sky.. TOO BAD I'M JUST A GAMECUBE |
| 09:10.34 | MeStinkBAD | what are you talking about? |
| 09:10.48 | Xuerian | I'm not a PC MASTER RACE person, but it's pretty silly to say consoles are the inevitable end result |
| 09:11.07 | MeStinkBAD | How many games these days are PC exclusives? |
| 09:11.13 | Xuerian | That's like saying movies are so good that no one will go to youtube |
| 09:11.36 | Raimondas | But...BitTorrent is so good that no one will go to movies! |
| 09:12.03 | Xuerian | MeStinkBAD: And how many are still (XBOX|PS3|WII) exclusives? |
| 09:12.07 | Xuerian | A few. |
| 09:12.11 | Xuerian | A few of the good ones. |
| 09:12.12 | Xuerian | Just like PC. |
| 09:12.41 | Xuerian | PC is just another platform, with advantages and disadvantages like the rest |
| 09:12.53 | MeStinkBAD | yes |
| 09:13.27 | Xuerian | But with that I'm done, this isn't a console debate forum and I'm feeling a bit silly for heading in that direction. You're entitled to your opinion. |
| 09:13.37 | MeStinkBAD | But take a game like Batman, Arkum City... |
| 09:13.46 | MeStinkBAD | For PS3, 360, and PC |
| 09:14.08 | mckenziemc | so? |
| 09:14.30 | MeStinkBAD | It's for all three... not PC only... |
| 09:14.42 | mckenziemc | that doesn't support your claim |
| 09:14.43 | jnwhiteh | API Diff for 4.2.0 -> 4.3.0: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/514801/ |
| 09:14.57 | MeStinkBAD | It uses GFWL |
| 09:15.08 | MeStinkBAD | What are your feelings about GFWL? |
| 09:15.23 | mckenziemc | why does that matter |
| 09:15.49 | Xuerian | Like GTAIV (also a multiplatform) or skyrim (also a multiplatform) uses steam, which is pretty cool... :3. jnwhiteh: Coolio, thanks. |
| 09:15.59 | MeStinkBAD | everyone seems to hate it (don't ask me why i don't understand) |
| 09:16.34 | MeStinkBAD | Go look at the Skyrim Steam forums... |
| 09:17.00 | mckenziemc | you'd have to prove that gaming on pc will move to (not just expand to) content distribution platforms like gfwl before you can claim gaming will move to (not just expand to) consoles |
| 09:17.07 | mckenziemc | if you want to use that line of reason solely |
| 09:17.22 | MeStinkBAD | GFWL is no different from Steam |
| 09:22.58 | ZTrek | oh hey I forget to mention that the values of the keys in my table are tables themselves....could this cause a problem with if table.key then print("string") end |
| 09:23.17 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: I can see they messed up in the naming of "isRaidFinderDungeonDisplayable" :P |
| 09:23.39 | jnwhiteh | its probably supposed to be local |
| 09:23.49 | jnwhiteh | I didn't test if it was a function |
| 09:23.52 | jnwhiteh | although that would make sense too :P |
| 09:24.08 | Maldivia | :) |
| 09:25.02 | mckenziemc | ZTrek: should still work. can you post a link of the code on pastebin? |
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| 09:33.10 | karl_w_w | console gaming will never kill pc gaming because people will always have pcs so there will always be a market |
| 09:33.34 | karl_w_w | same cant be said for consoles, if people dont have consoles to game on most of the time they just wont have them |
| 09:33.36 | Xuerian | IT WAS OVER |
| 09:33.37 | Xuerian | AHHHHH |
| 09:33.45 | Xuerian | runs away screaming |
| 09:34.13 | karl_w_w | chases Xuerian with a flaming (joy)stick |
| 09:36.42 | mckenziemc | hehe |
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| 09:37.42 | Xuerian | Am I hallucinating, or does the interface options menu make UIDropdownMenus without level == dicks antics |
| 09:38.12 | Xuerian | NOPE, didn't scroll down ten more lines |
| 09:38.16 | Xuerian | time for bed xuerian |
| 09:38.25 | mckenziemc | o.o |
| 09:39.07 | Xuerian | You know, the game's interface almost always works without issue and with flawless, if basic, functionality |
| 09:39.35 | Xuerian | HOW it manges to get that way without developers going slightly nutty with the minimum amount of usability they employ is beyond me |
| 09:39.56 | Xuerian | s/usability/reusability/ |
| 09:40.51 | Xuerian | I guess they have some in-house UI toolkit and a bunch of bored coders =| |
| 09:55.21 | starlon | What's the easiest way to document a bunch of Lua library files? |
| 09:56.02 | starlon | It's the only reason I've never released LibScriptable. I want some docs first. |
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| 09:56.20 | starlon | Oh wrong channel |
| 09:56.32 | starlon | If anyone knows, feel free to chime in ;) |
| 09:56.35 | Elkano | if it's on wowace, do it in file and let the documenter handle page creation |
| 09:56.51 | starlon | It won't work there due to recursion. |
| 09:57.08 | starlon | It goes too deep for cf's documenter. |
| 09:57.48 | mckenziemc | maybe you could run luadoc yourself and manually post api pages on your project page |
| 09:57.59 | starlon | nods. |
| 09:59.09 | airtonix | hey Xinhuan |
| 09:59.20 | Xinhuan | hihi |
| 09:59.48 | airtonix | krs1? |
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| 10:00.24 | Xinhuan | huh |
| 10:00.31 | airtonix | MeStinkBAD: gwfl doesn't work on linux, steam does |
| 10:00.35 | airtonix | case closed |
| 10:02.43 | Corrodias | GFWL doesn't even work that well on Windows |
| 10:02.49 | Corrodias | ironic though it may be |
| 10:02.55 | airtonix | microsoft suck |
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| 10:04.51 | airtonix | btw Cairenn, do you still pay a "We assume you are all criminal pirates" tax on storage devices? |
| 10:04.59 | airtonix | in canada |
| 10:05.13 | Cairenn | umm, dunno? |
| 10:05.17 | airtonix | oh |
| 10:05.53 | airtonix | because i read in a thread, that you guys do because they just assume everyone is guilty |
| 10:06.45 | airtonix | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_copying_levy |
| 10:07.35 | Cairenn | shrugs |
| 10:07.47 | Corrodias | ah, more crony capitalism |
| 10:07.51 | krka | there's a difference between private copy and pirate copy |
| 10:08.25 | airtonix | oh so since i'm not wearing a parrot and running around in public on a wooden peg it's therefor private? |
| 10:10.52 | airtonix | if i were a media mogul lawyer i would fight to have this tarrif removed |
| 10:11.06 | airtonix | then i could go around suing the pants off individuals using torrents |
| 10:11.22 | airtonix | or streaming radio |
| 10:12.09 | Corrodias | both of which are entirely legal concepts unless you're specifically talking about unlicensed distribution and performance |
| 10:13.08 | airtonix | lets just assume i'm the kind of lawyer that can find stupid judges to accept my thesis on how much of an evil criminal you are |
| 10:13.36 | airtonix | would you want to kill me ? |
| 10:14.18 | airtonix | i mean were i to be such a scuzzbucket, would i be in need of four meathead bodyguards? |
| 10:14.27 | Corrodias | i'd have to think about that more than i care to right now. it's kind of non-sequitor. |
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| 10:29.35 | karl_w_w | how long does a small package realistically take to get delivered by usps standard delivery within the US? |
| 10:30.21 | User326 | how ever fast the service says. Maybe faster, probably not out of range as far as longer. |
| 10:30.57 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 10:31.20 | karl_w_w | well in aus they usually say 5-10 days but ive never known it to take long than 3 days from when they send it |
| 10:31.27 | tekkub | express, prio, first class? |
| 10:31.50 | karl_w_w | no idea tekkub, whatever standard would be :P |
| 10:31.55 | karl_w_w | the slow option |
| 10:32.07 | tekkub | first class would be "slow" oddly enough |
| 10:32.11 | tekkub | for a package at least |
| 10:32.46 | tekkub | express is usually like overnight or 2-day, as fast as they can manage |
| 10:32.52 | tekkub | prio is like 3-day basically |
| 10:32.54 | User326 | Probably standard I would think no more than 14 days, of course that leaves them lots of leeway. |
| 10:33.01 | tekkub | first class LETTER is usually the same |
| 10:33.12 | tekkub | first class PACKAGE is kinda "whenever the fuck you can" |
| 10:34.00 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 10:57.39 | Elkano | so far it seems like none of my addons broke \o/ |
| 10:58.20 | Elkano | only some small adjustments for FramesResized needed so far |
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| 11:26.14 | airtonix | omgwtf ie8 |
| 11:26.27 | airtonix | why does it cause text nodes to inherit css rules |
| 11:26.27 | starlon | user error |
| 11:26.49 | airtonix | oh yeah you're right, i didn't spam click close enough |
| 11:26.58 | starlon | damn straight |
| 11:30.20 | starlon | Finally some documentation - https://github.com/Starlon/LibScriptableRift-1.0/wiki/_pages |
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| 12:59.00 | Cairenn | Night all |
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| 13:23.45 | alestane | So, is it typical Java style to qualify every reference to an instance variable or local method with "this.", or is the guy I'm working with just obsessive? |
| 13:23.57 | krka | it's not uncommon |
| 13:24.15 | krka | it's a leftover standard from the time where people did not use proper IDEs |
| 13:24.23 | alestane | I can see that it leaves absolutely no confusion. |
| 13:24.27 | krka | i only use that when it's ambiguous |
| 13:24.40 | krka | my IDE gives different colors to members / locals |
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| 13:26.18 | alestane | We have one case here where I'm sort of debating whether a particular member should be static or not, which means it works either way, but we get warnings from "this.persistence" when it's static. |
| 13:26.27 | alestane | Morning, Peppy. |
| 13:27.01 | Lopeppeppy | Members should never be subject to static electricity, alestane. *zorch, scream, punch* |
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| 13:37.26 | Adys_ | ~arstech++ |
| 13:37.33 | Adys_ | epic headlines |
| 13:37.34 | Adys_ | "Google maps the indoors. Finding nearest bathroom has never been easier." |
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| 13:39.53 | Lopeppeppy | There are already apps for that. |
| 13:42.28 | bluspacecow | for ? |
| 13:42.47 | Lopeppeppy | For finding the nearest public bathroom. |
| 13:42.55 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 13:43.05 | bluspacecow | are they called omgineedtopeee |
| 13:43.06 | airtonix | your face is an app |
| 13:43.20 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 13:45.11 | Lopeppeppy | meanie |
| 13:49.44 | airtonix | hey judge, i like your internet comprehension, your beard is sick |
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| 14:12.37 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.42 | bluspacecow | time to re-organise my bank |
| 14:12.45 | bluspacecow | (s) |
| 14:13.36 | Lopeppeppy | Eeek. |
| 14:13.38 | Lopeppeppy | Never fun. |
| 14:17.01 | bluspacecow | i'm sorting out my nostaligia items to void storage and finding all sorts of crazy things |
| 14:17.08 | bluspacecow | like 200 bolts of cloth |
| 14:17.49 | jnwhiteh | is it 25g every time you want to deposit an item, i.e. pulling it out and putting it back in is another 25g? |
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| 14:19.32 | bluspacecow | have yet to play with that yet |
| 14:20.01 | bluspacecow | still in "wtf is this in here for?" *goes to do something with it or send it somewhere* stage |
| 14:22.20 | Lopeppeppy | This sounds like an interesting and very expensive new banking option. |
| 14:22.40 | bluspacecow | itsa gold sink! |
| 14:22.45 | Lopeppeppy | No wai? |
| 14:24.41 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 14:35.55 | bluspacecow | my druid just swam straight up in the air instead of turning into a bird |
| 14:35.57 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 14:36.31 | Lopeppeppy | Weirdness. *laugh* |
| 14:36.44 | TMc51 | Lag can be fun when weird crap like that happens. |
| 14:37.43 | jnwhiteh | if I have two Chrome windows, one full screen on an external monitor then my mouse cursor is not visible in my main window. |
| 14:39.39 | karl_w_w | oh boo |
| 14:40.10 | karl_w_w | one of my addons has stopped working and to fix it I have to work out a whole new way of detecting when your pet dies |
| 14:40.48 | Lopeppeppy | How does an addon that *does* work detect when your pet dies? |
| 14:40.49 | karl_w_w | cbf with the testing xD |
| 14:41.00 | karl_w_w | i forget peppy |
| 14:41.00 | jnwhiteh | C_L_E_U |
| 14:41.28 | jnwhiteh | but there's probably an easier event |
| 14:41.49 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:41.52 | jnwhiteh | and then let your pet die |
| 14:41.54 | jnwhiteh | problem solved =) |
| 14:41.56 | karl_w_w | yeah i was using MAXHEALTH |
| 14:42.22 | karl_w_w | cos there's time delay on most combat log events |
| 14:43.21 | jnwhiteh | not a significant one |
| 14:43.28 | jnwhiteh | either way, you have an easy way to figure out what event to use =) |
| 14:43.32 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 14:43.33 | jnwhiteh | I'll leave you to it |
| 14:43.40 | karl_w_w | maybe I'll do it tomorrow :P |
| 14:44.09 | karl_w_w | the hardest part of it is my only pet class is a frost mage so I can only kill my pet every 3 mins :P |
| 14:44.32 | Adys | "What kind of differences are there between IE7, IE8, IE9, and IE10 for a developer?" |
| 14:44.34 | jnwhiteh | make a level 1 hunter or warlock |
| 14:44.36 | jnwhiteh | problem solved =) |
| 14:44.39 | Adys | some questions are just not worth asking |
| 14:45.03 | Lopeppeppy | What is the difference between a cobra and a hamster? |
| 14:45.13 | karl_w_w | "more differences than you could ever want to know about, trust me" |
| 14:45.56 | Adys | WebGL is prone to kernel hacks via GPU driver. Which is why MS is staunchly against it and will not support it, and not because it is a competitor to its DirectX APIs. |
| 14:45.59 | Adys | haha. |
| 14:46.09 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 14:46.18 | karl_w_w | er |
| 14:46.23 | Adys | For the good of all of usâ„¢ |
| 14:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | I don't like peanut butter, because I think that the creation of it is cruel to animals. Not because I just don't like peanut butter or anything. |
| 14:47.25 | Adys | Man, Ars commenters used to have brains. |
| 14:49.32 | krka | Lopeppeppy: hm, are animals involved in peanut butter production? |
| 14:49.52 | Lopeppeppy | Who knows? |
| 14:50.01 | jnwhiteh | more importantly |
| 14:50.06 | jnwhiteh | its terribly mean to them when you make them eat it |
| 14:50.08 | jnwhiteh | they can't stop licking! |
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| 14:50.34 | Lopeppeppy | See? Cruelty! |
| 14:55.33 | Dagmar | These are the same animals who you know would *kill you* for a small pile of baby carrots. |
| 14:55.44 | Dagmar | You might want to rethink your allegiances. |
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| 15:11.32 | bluspacecow | imma be eating them every chance i get |
| 15:11.42 | bluspacecow | have you seen those guys in the wild ? *shudder* |
| 15:17.35 | Dagmar | I was yellin' at my mom's chihuahuas about that. "WTF guys! You're supposed to be *carnivores*. What is up with the carrots?" |
| 15:18.06 | Dagmar | It seems to be a common weakness amongst mammals that fit in your hand. |
| 15:20.43 | starlon | blames turkey. |
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| 15:24.28 | Ackis | I submitted something to reddit that got upvotes... I'm shocked |
| 15:24.54 | jnwhiteh | do you feel dirty? |
| 15:25.27 | Ackis | nah it was kind of cute actually, just surprised it got upvoted |
| 15:30.05 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: http://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/mtpgx/guy_i_work_with_plays_wow_heres_how_he_signed_the/ |
| 15:31.17 | Ackis | so I hear the police state of the USA evicted some protesters last night |
| 15:32.51 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 15:33.18 | Dagmar | *Clearly* we are not all on the same page about what exactly Freedom of Assembly means |
| 15:33.43 | Ackis | it's ok to do it if you're not in the USA, however you can't do it if you're in the USA |
| 15:33.55 | Dagmar | At least Gov. Haslam here has painted himself into a nice corner over it. |
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| 15:34.41 | Dagmar | Apparently, that jackass is trying to charge the Occupy Nashville people for the two officers they assigned to monitor them, the night before they started trying to arrest them |
| 15:35.34 | Dagmar | Because clearly, it's just too much trouble to actually respond to complaints about vagrants in an area with three overlapping police jurisdictions. |
| 15:36.02 | Dagmar | Metro Police, TN State Troopers, and Capitol Police. |
| 15:36.04 | amro | Dagmar: freedom of assembly doesn't mean you can break laws |
| 15:36.16 | Dagmar | amro: They weren't breaking any laws. |
| 15:36.28 | amro | link? |
| 15:36.29 | foxlit | amro: especially not laws prohibiting assemblies, of course :) |
| 15:36.33 | amro | I'm sure they did something |
| 15:36.37 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 15:36.46 | amro | trespassing, protesting without a permit |
| 15:36.48 | Dagmar | Haslams arguments are pretty crap. |
| 15:36.52 | amro | they always do something stupid like that |
| 15:36.54 | Dagmar | Protesting does not require a permit. |
| 15:36.58 | amro | yes it does |
| 15:37.03 | amro | you cannot just gather up anywhere in town |
| 15:37.17 | foxlit | Under that interpretation, what exactly is the freedom of assembly? |
| 15:37.25 | Dagmar | You can in gov't owned _public spaces_. |
| 15:37.27 | foxlit | "Can we gather here?" "No." "Okay then." |
| 15:37.42 | Dagmar | Legislative Plaza is one such place |
| 15:37.46 | amro | no, you can't just crowd up any space you damn please |
| 15:37.53 | amro | there are other concerns |
| 15:38.00 | amro | but you WILL get a permit |
| 15:38.16 | amro | you just have to follow the rules and do it right |
| 15:39.09 | Dagmar | http://www.newschannel5.com/story/16142509/occupy-nashville-billed-1045-for-security-before-arrests |
| 15:39.29 | Dagmar | Again, a public space owned by the gov't is fair game. |
| 15:39.31 | foxlit | meh, tyrael failhorse :( |
| 15:40.02 | Dagmar | "Freedom of assembly" is not just a suggestion. It's in the constition for a reason. |
| 15:40.04 | amro | Dagmar: no it's not. crowds, especially those that camp, are a health and security concern |
| 15:40.11 | amro | you need to let the city know you're about to do it and when |
| 15:40.12 | Dagmar | amro: Bullshit. |
| 15:40.16 | Dagmar | *Fragrant* bullshit. |
| 15:40.23 | Dagmar | There's less than 30 people there. |
| 15:40.32 | amro | I'm talking about why you need a permit |
| 15:40.33 | Dagmar | that wouldn't even fill a public school classroom. |
| 15:41.01 | Dagmar | They're literally over in one small corner of the plaza, which is fairly large |
| 15:41.17 | Dagmar | They've been keeping out of the way and cleaning up after themselves. |
| 15:41.32 | Dagmar | The only sanitation issue is the usual one of the vagrants pooping everywhere. |
| 15:41.50 | Dagmar | By that standard, they should be closing the entire downtown area |
| 15:42.09 | Dagmar | Yet Haslam found it convenient to blame this problem on the Occupy people. |
| 15:42.20 | Dagmar | I'm still astonished that he actually made this claim to the press |
| 15:43.05 | Dagmar | The Capitol Police are stationed literally across the street from this location. |
| 15:43.09 | foxlit | geeep, Wind Shear. |
| 15:43.15 | Dagmar | They can *see* the "camp" from where they're at. |
| 15:43.17 | amro | Dagmar: I can't find anything about them being evicted from the park |
| 15:43.19 | foxlit | Where did they put that cd reduction? |
| 15:43.27 | amro | from what you linked |
| 15:43.36 | Dagmar | amro: Google is your friend. ...or are you about to try claiming that didn't happen. |
| 15:43.54 | Dagmar | Also, reading is fundamental |
| 15:44.01 | amro | seriously? |
| 15:44.09 | Dagmar | "NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - The state Department of General Services billed Occupy Nashville $1,045 to provide two troopers for security the night before they began arresting the protesters and clearing their encampment." |
| 15:44.26 | amro | that's not detailed enough |
| 15:44.32 | Dagmar | I actually know six or seven of those people. Three of which would probably slap you silly if you pooped on the sidewalk. |
| 15:44.40 | amro | I don't doubt |
| 15:44.42 | amro | it only takes one asshole |
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| 15:44.59 | amro | quite literally |
| 15:45.12 | Dagmar | In this case it's more like four or five of them. |
| 15:45.23 | Dagmar | The police pretty much have done nothing about the vagrant problem. |
| 15:46.01 | amro | in any case, the only articles I'm finding on that page is about them being arrested and released without charge |
| 15:46.24 | amro | which I assume means they're allowed to return |
| 15:46.24 | Dagmar | Yes, two nights in a row that happened. |
| 15:46.32 | Dagmar | In both cases the night court magistrate threw that crap out the moment he found out about it. |
| 15:46.43 | foxlit | That kind of seems like a bad thing |
| 15:46.44 | amro | yeah well that's harrassment, not denying right of assembly |
| 15:46.50 | amro | you need to see what the latter looks like |
| 15:46.52 | Dagmar | He didn't even wait for them to be brought in front of him. |
| 15:47.18 | Dagmar | The harassment *is* denying the right to freedom of assembly, dude. |
| 15:47.45 | amro | so you're sitting there all day, and getting harrassed at night is enough to make you feel you don't have freedom of assembly? |
| 15:47.47 | amro | first world problems |
| 15:47.54 | Dagmar | They also caught a very poorly trained undercover surveillance team the next week |
| 15:48.07 | amro | if I went out to protest here I'd get my head bashed in, a permanent black mark on my record, and spend a few nights in jail |
| 15:48.19 | amro | I call THAT denying freedom of assembly |
| 15:48.35 | Dagmar | The head bashing has been going on in other cities |
| 15:48.54 | Ackis | I didn't mean to start an argument like this, I was just making fun of the "land of the free" for not being the land of the free :( |
| 15:48.57 | Dagmar | ...and they were *trying* on the other two parts of that |
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| 15:49.13 | Dagmar | Ackis: It *is* a ridiculous situation, so I'm agreeing with you |
| 15:49.37 | durcyn | amro: "I live in a fascist oligarchy, so should you" |
| 15:49.56 | amro | link if it turned out different somewhere, but for the most part it's protesters thinking that linking arms and staying "peaceful" somehow means the cops shouldn't touch them if they're breaking a law |
| 15:50.08 | Dagmar | UCDavis. |
| 15:50.10 | amro | durcyn: no, I didn't say it's okay, I'm saying it's not as bad as they panit it |
| 15:50.11 | amro | paint* |
| 15:50.25 | Dagmar | You're walking a slippery slope there, man |
| 15:50.26 | foxlit | Does it matter how bad it is? |
| 15:50.27 | amro | Dagmar: didn't the cops ask them to leave private property? |
| 15:50.28 | foxlit | bad is still bad. |
| 15:50.34 | amro | yeah it matters |
| 15:50.59 | Dagmar | "Protesters must ride in the back of the bus, only." |
| 15:51.20 | amro | that's different and you know it |
| 15:51.24 | Dagmar | No, it's not. |
| 15:51.34 | amro | yes, it is. the intent was civil disobedience |
| 15:51.45 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 15:51.53 | amro | I'm not getting into this |
| 15:52.02 | Dagmar | If they wanted to engage in civil disobedience, they'd have camped out on the Capitol steps |
| 15:52.14 | amro | that's my point |
| 15:52.21 | amro | these kids don't want civil disobedience |
| 15:52.21 | Dagmar | As it stands, they're off in the corner of a large, flat, empty space, not in the way of any pedestrian traffic. |
| 15:52.34 | amro | which means if the cops tell them to move off private property, they should |
| 15:52.36 | amro | if the cops don |
| 15:52.43 | Dagmar | Not private property. |
| 15:52.52 | amro | 't have grounds to do soemthing, listen to them anyway and complain through the proper channels |
| 15:53.00 | amro | UCDavis is private property |
| 15:53.07 | Dagmar | Legislative Plaza isn't. |
| 15:53.17 | Dagmar | Public streets and sidewalks aren't. |
| 15:53.18 | amro | now you're back to nashville |
| 15:53.47 | amro | wait so the cops shouldn't be able to tell you to get off the street? |
| 15:54.02 | Dagmar | ...and you're still on that slippery slope, apparently claiming it's okay to deny freedom of assembly so long as the cops aren't violent about it |
| 15:54.12 | amro | I did not |
| 15:54.27 | amro | I'm just saying the UCDavis protesters weren't all that smart about protesting |
| 15:54.34 | amro | I don't like police crackdowns anymore than anyone else |
| 15:54.43 | amro | but if you're protesting, don't give them a reason |
| 15:54.50 | Dagmar | No, the cops can't tell you to leave a public area when there is no nuisance being created except that it bothers rich people on principle. |
| 15:55.00 | amro | I'm talking about UCDavis here |
| 15:55.09 | Dagmar | And I have been talking about Nashville. |
| 15:55.16 | amro | [16:50] <Dagmar> UCDavis. |
| 15:55.24 | Dagmar | You're the one who wanted to expand the scope. |
| 15:55.28 | amro | as for nashville, I already said what I think about that |
| 15:55.55 | Dagmar | Haslam (TN gov) is one of the people who was on that creepy as hell conference call to organize crackdowns across the country |
| 15:56.06 | foxlit | hm, so I got disconnected during an iso'rath nightmare. Here's Deathwing, but there's no thrall :/ |
| 15:56.42 | Dagmar | foxlit: Just shot "Quickly Hunter, do something!" while the boss is still out of range. |
| 15:56.49 | Dagmar | s/shot/shout/ |
| 15:58.06 | foxlit | relogging worked |
| 15:59.51 | amro | Dagmar: my point is you're either in for civil disobedience or you're not. you can't refuse to listen to cops and then complain when the baton comes out (UCDavis, OWS, ...)- this sets a dangerous legal precedent. their reasons might be flimsy or based on some obscure old law but whatever it is, you have to respect it and go through the proper channels |
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| 16:01.35 | starlon | Too bad the proper channels are skewed in favor of the corrupt. |
| 16:02.02 | alestane | Gods...I understand that I took hasty and unilateral action on the repository, which was not good. But I really wish you'd read and understand my code before you criticize it. |
| 16:03.14 | Dagmar | Actually, you *can* complain about it, particularly when the police aren't following their own procedures properly and are using excessive force. |
| 16:03.21 | amro | starlon: probably yeah. but given the low voter turnout... I'd imagine this movement can make some changes since I bet a significant portion were previously inactive politically |
| 16:03.31 | Ackis | criticizes alestane's code. |
| 16:03.44 | Dagmar | In the case of UCDavis, that meme guy jumped several procedural steps |
| 16:04.31 | amro | I never said the cops were angels |
| 16:04.50 | amro | but it doesn't help to give them ammo by resisting |
| 16:05.09 | amro | that's how they get away with it, they have lawyers too |
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| 16:07.13 | Dagmar | Do you mean "resisting arrest"? |
| 16:07.23 | amro | no |
| 16:07.32 | amro | at that point cat's out of the bag |
| 16:07.33 | Dagmar | Resisting frost damage? |
| 16:07.46 | amro | +1 |
| 16:07.47 | Dagmar | You should try being around police sometime. |
| 16:07.55 | Dagmar | You'd be amazed at what "resisting" turns out to be. |
| 16:08.20 | Dagmar | The reporter from the Nashville Scene that got arrested the first night here--the cops decided he was resisting arrest within 11 seconds. |
| 16:08.24 | amro | that's exactly my point, you shouldn't do anything that gives them backing in court |
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| 16:08.47 | Dagmar | ...because apparently stating repeatedly "But I'm a member of the press. I'm a reporter" is somehow resisting arrest |
| 16:08.52 | amro | you're jumping back and forth between UCDavis and Nashville, I don't know what we're talking about |
| 16:08.55 | Dagmar | We know this because he had his voice recorder going. |
| 16:09.11 | Dagmar | The cops just make shit up on a regular basis. |
| 16:09.19 | amro | either way, if you play your cards right their court cases will fall |
| 16:09.23 | amro | and you'll have grounds to sue |
| 16:09.30 | amro | but if you do stupid shit, you won't have legal standing |
| 16:09.34 | amro | and that's all I mean to say |
| 16:09.40 | Dagmar | Not only are lawyers provided to you if you cannot afford one, they readily provide you with crimes you committed if you are too lazy to actually break a law on your own. |
| 16:09.43 | Ackis | http://bikyamasr.com/49799/egypt-import-tear-gas-from-us/ |
| 16:09.55 | amro | Dagmar: full service! |
| 16:11.15 | amro | "officials at the port refused to sign and accept it for fear it would be used to crackdown on Egyptian protesters." they're shooting people now, tear gas can't be worse |
| 16:12.33 | durcyn | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-ostertag/uc-davis-protest_b_1103039.html |
| 16:13.03 | Kraps_w | Ackis: that doesnt really mean anything, its just for generating an emotional response |
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| 16:21.46 | bluspacecow | kk ni ni guys |
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| 16:25.13 | jnwhiteh | compares are up |
| 16:25.14 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 16:26.56 | Fisker | compares jnwhiteh |
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| 16:33.03 | karl_w_w | why wont my curse client make with the downloading |
| 16:34.22 | Gnarfoz | you didn't feed it enough cookies |
| 16:35.31 | karl_w_w | ah, curseforge moving like tar as well |
| 16:37.27 | Gnarfoz | who would expect /that/ on patch day :D |
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| 16:38.38 | p3lim | I changed something in my gitconfig, now every commit has changes all over the file |
| 16:38.56 | p3lim | I just don't remember what I changed that messed this up, any of you have a clue? |
| 16:39.16 | jnwhiteh | probably something with end-of-line? |
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| 16:40.16 | karl_w_w | patch day was yesterday Gnarfoz :P |
| 16:40.27 | Gnarfoz | except, not |
| 16:40.34 | Gnarfoz | (or, rather, "too") |
| 16:41.09 | karl_w_w | well the thing is |
| 16:41.10 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: you know whats most common to use? |
| 16:41.23 | karl_w_w | most addons have been updated for 4.3 already |
| 16:41.24 | Dagmar | "Consider randomly-chosen whitespace to be unique strings" |
| 16:41.34 | jnwhiteh | p3lim: no, you can always revert your .gitconfig |
| 16:41.39 | karl_w_w | so why would curse be lagging now when it wasnt for US maintenance |
| 16:41.41 | jnwhiteh | but you should *always* be checking the diff of your commits before you commit them |
| 16:41.42 | Gnarfoz | ...?! |
| 16:41.52 | Gnarfoz | how does "addons have been updated" relate to this, at all |
| 16:42.04 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: yeah the issue is just that the diff shows as everything is changed |
| 16:42.12 | Gnarfoz | Tuesday is US patchday, Wednesday is EU patch day, I have no clue about Korea and Taiwan |
| 16:42.17 | karl_w_w | maybe I'm not seeing where you're coming from |
| 16:42.20 | jnwhiteh | but it should say *how* it changed |
| 16:42.24 | jnwhiteh | thats the information oyu need |
| 16:42.29 | karl_w_w | why else would curse be lagging if not for addon updaters? |
| 16:42.37 | Gnarfoz | you mean authors? |
| 16:42.45 | karl_w_w | no people downloading them |
| 16:42.54 | Gnarfoz | Wednesday is EU patch day |
| 16:42.59 | Gnarfoz | not sure why I have to repeat that |
| 16:43.19 | Gnarfoz | so you get whoever didn't play at all yesterday in the US + everyone who's playing today in EU |
| 16:43.24 | Gnarfoz | which is obviously more than yesterday ;) |
| 16:44.07 | karl_w_w | but addons have already been updated by the authors over the course of the last day+ |
| 16:44.13 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: http://qikr.co/files/pics/u/unt92463.png |
| 16:44.27 | Gnarfoz | you don't assume that, just because authors fixed many addons yesterday, all 3.5M players in the US and all 2.8M players in EU updated yesterday? (the latter making no sense at all since today is EU patch day) |
| 16:44.31 | karl_w_w | why would there suddenly be a bunch of EU players getting up in the small hours just to update addons :P |
| 16:44.33 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: it shows like every line in the file is changed, even tho I have made no changes to it |
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| 16:44.37 | Gnarfoz | what small hours? |
| 16:44.44 | Gnarfoz | it's 17:45 CET |
| 16:44.45 | jnwhiteh | smells like an end-of-line change |
| 16:44.50 | jnwhiteh | but that's difficult to confirm from a screenshot =) |
| 16:44.57 | karl_w_w | wha |
| 16:45.04 | karl_w_w | EU maintenance isnt in the morning? |
| 16:45.13 | Gnarfoz | it ISN'T morning?! |
| 16:45.20 | jnwhiteh | no, the sun is already down |
| 16:45.23 | jnwhiteh | gg |
| 16:45.24 | Gnarfoz | :P |
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| 16:45.47 | Gnarfoz | (and yes, EU maintenance is in the night, too. 03:00-11:00 CET planned, but realms were up at 10 already) |
| 16:45.53 | karl_w_w | right |
| 16:45.53 | Ackis | is it wrong that I'm bored with 4.3 already? :( |
| 16:46.02 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: I'll just re-install msysgit and get the defaults :p |
| 16:46.03 | karl_w_w | so why suddenly is curse lagging :P |
| 16:46.07 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: are you asking if you're telling the truth? |
| 16:46.10 | karl_w_w | i just dont understand it :P |
| 16:46.14 | jnwhiteh | p3lim: just clear your gitconfig maybe |
| 16:46.16 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: seriously? :X |
| 16:46.30 | karl_w_w | it was fine for US |
| 16:46.34 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: tried, doesnt seem like its creating a new default one |
| 16:46.36 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: the changes in 4.3 don't interest me tbh =/ the raid is boring it seems |
| 16:46.45 | Gnarfoz | yes, and today you get MORE people trying to update than yesterday, how can you not grok that |
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| 16:47.13 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: you did normal mode or even heroic mode of the raid already? and... well, can't be helped that you're not interested in the rest of the 10 or so features they implemented :\ |
| 16:47.27 | karl_w_w | i can't grok(?) it because addons havent just been updated, they've been updated for quite a while now |
| 16:47.31 | karl_w_w | as I said already |
| 16:47.41 | Gnarfoz | yes |
| 16:47.50 | Ackis | Gnarfoz: did LFR mode and a buggy firelands last night |
| 16:47.55 | Gnarfoz | and why do you assume people go to update their addons in the EU when the patch wasn't even out yesterday? |
| 16:48.14 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: LFR is not for players of your caliber (and you only did half of it), of course that's going to bore you ;) |
| 16:48.30 | karl_w_w | some people do that sort of thing :P i updated my addons that were ready before US maintenance |
| 16:48.43 | Gnarfoz | (also, you assume ALL US players updated yesterday... if you don't get it now, I'll just stop and let you wonder in oblivion) |
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| 16:49.11 | karl_w_w | i assume that a lot of US players and some EU p;layers updated yesterday |
| 16:49.16 | Gnarfoz | perhaps Curse and WoWI can supply some awesome graphs showing peak bandwidth usage :> |
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| 16:49.23 | karl_w_w | perhaps! :P |
| 16:49.58 | Gnarfoz | the number of EU players updating for a patch that isn't out yet is probably very miniscule... and I doubt the majority of US players will even be online before the weekend |
| 16:50.29 | karl_w_w | you make a good point, they wont be on by the weekend :P |
| 16:51.00 | p3lim | jnwhiteh: autocrlf was the setting that I missed |
| 16:51.14 | karl_w_w | why would they not be online the day of the patch (in the excitement), but instead decide to log in at 9am on the next day |
| 16:51.19 | jnwhiteh | as I thought. Glad you figured it out |
| 16:52.43 | amro | jnwhiteh: monarch + devourer. yummy |
| 16:52.57 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 16:53.40 | amro | in fact it would murder the phant/ds combo |
| 16:53.44 | amro | in the shortlane at least |
| 16:56.58 | AcidWeb | It might count for someone: MAX_BATTLEFIELD_QUEUES global was removed in 4.3 |
| 17:00.46 | karl_w_w | AcidWeb: replaced with GetMaxBattlefieldID() |
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| 17:02.56 | AcidWeb | Y i know. |
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| 17:05.15 | Gnarfoz | karl_w_w: 9am... what :D sorry, I give up ;) |
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| 17:12.21 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
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| 17:14.58 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEEES |
| 17:14.59 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
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| 17:15.04 | Fisker | i can D3 again |
| 17:15.09 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:15.14 | Stanzilla | Fisker: wut happened |
| 17:15.48 | Fisker | they fixed it |
| 17:16.06 | Thunder_Child | it wasnt broked |
| 17:16.08 | Stanzilla | yay |
| 17:16.32 | Fisker | it very much was Thunder_Child |
| 17:16.39 | Thunder_Child | was not |
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| 17:17.31 | Fisker | was |
| 17:19.44 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:20.15 | Lunessa | Hello Pretty Lady. |
| 17:20.51 | Fisker | nah Lunessa |
| 17:21.14 | Lunessa | Fisker: You are neither pretty, nor a lady. |
| 17:21.27 | Fisker | i didn't say that i were |
| 17:21.34 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, you are running the risk of eternal damnation there. |
| 17:21.58 | Fisker | but "Pretty Lady" does not suggest a pretty lady but THE Pretty Lady |
| 17:22.09 | starlon | upvotes Fisker. |
| 17:22.56 | Lopeppeppy | At that moment, to him, I certainly was THE pretty lady. |
| 17:22.59 | Lopeppeppy | And that's okay. |
| 17:23.01 | Lunessa | I can do a shout out to all the pretty ladies in the channel (and there are several). :P |
| 17:23.10 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 17:23.40 | Lunessa | But in the case above, Lopeppeppy was getting the full intensity of my attentions. |
| 17:28.54 | Lopeppeppy | I know that his attentions are temporary, and I bask in them while they are upon me. I won't be offended when he says the same thing to Cairenn, or Seerah. We're all awesome kickass ladies. |
| 17:30.08 | Lunessa | Indeed you're all pretty awesome and kick ass. |
| 17:34.21 | Thunder_Child | though ladies is streching it considering some of the comment you 'ladies' have made in here. |
| 17:34.32 | Thunder_Child | s/ent/ents/ |
| 17:36.18 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: First rule of being a charming fucker, never, ever, ever make comments that let them know you know they're only human. |
| 17:36.49 | Lopeppeppy | I know, that he knows, and he knows that I know that he knows. But we've agreed to keep that to ourselves. |
| 17:38.17 | kd3 | well, I wonder if this means WWIII is about to start with all of the attacks on embassies in iran... |
| 17:38.34 | Dagmar | Much safer to let slip that you know they're _not_ human |
| 17:38.43 | Lunessa | hopes not. He does;t look good in uniform. |
| 17:38.52 | Dagmar | No interstellar espionage agents ever get upset about that. |
| 17:43.15 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. I thought that at least a few would. |
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| 17:47.49 | Stanzilla | Shadowed: I think your upload of Damn Achievement Spam on cf failed |
| 17:47.57 | Shadowed | look |
| 17:47.58 | Shadowed | I was lazy |
| 17:48.01 | Shadowed | and didn't want to open up terminal |
| 17:48.07 | Shadowed | Also it 500ed |
| 17:48.12 | Stanzilla | :D |
| 17:48.28 | Stanzilla | system says "Cannot find file on local disk, cannot examine." |
| 17:48.47 | Shadowed | can you delete it |
| 17:48.53 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 17:49.04 | Stanzilla | done |
| 17:49.13 | Lunessa | So what you're saying is… ihttp://i.imgur.com/z0BAc.jpg |
| 17:51.08 | Shadowed | augh |
| 17:51.12 | Shadowed | I keep getting already uploaded errors |
| 17:51.15 | Shadowed | stupid curse |
| 17:51.20 | Shadowed | Also why does CF have no CSS |
| 17:51.58 | nicoli_s | i see css on CF |
| 17:52.50 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 17:53.18 | Fisker | iHTTP Lunessa ? |
| 17:53.23 | Shadowed | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25216316/cf.png |
| 17:53.27 | Lunessa | Meh. typo. |
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| 17:53.47 | Shadowed | It's fine on FF/Safari but Chrome does that |
| 17:54.20 | nicoli_s | odd same exact link looks fine for me |
| 17:54.37 | Shadowed | Stanzilla: k file should be fixed |
| 17:54.41 | Shadowed | nicoli_s: It's been doing that for 3-4months |
| 17:54.43 | Shadowed | wowace is fine |
| 17:55.15 | Fisker | i like it Lunessa |
| 17:55.17 | alestane | Lopeppeppy is absolutely a Pretty Lady, I've hugged her and everything! |
| 17:55.20 | Fisker | my client saw it as a link |
| 17:55.25 | alestane | (Sorry, was out running errands.) |
| 17:55.26 | Fisker | but wouldn't open it like a link |
| 17:55.46 | nicoli_s | Shadowed:tried changing themes? |
| 17:55.48 | alestane | And speaking of which, I have to go get the laundry now. |
| 17:55.51 | Shadowed | theme? |
| 17:55.53 | Shadowed | where |
| 17:56.02 | Shadowed | I didn't even know this site had themes |
| 17:56.13 | Lunessa | fine, fine, fine - http://i.imgur.com/z0BAc.jpg |
| 17:56.55 | Fisker | oh i didn't say i didn't see it |
| 17:57.48 | Shadowed | yea nicoli_s, I don't see any theme options on the user settings |
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| 17:59.31 | nicoli_s | http://wow.curseforge.com/themes/ pick one from there Shadowed |
| 17:59.39 | karl_w_w | i dont see why void storage and transmog cant be made to work together |
| 17:59.59 | karl_w_w | its not like transmog needs to know anything special about the transmog source |
| 18:00.08 | Shadowed | did somebody delete the old theme |
| 18:00.12 | Shadowed | and forget to do compatability for it |
| 18:00.16 | nicoli_s | no clue |
| 18:03.58 | karl_w_w | can anyone think of a quick way i can earn some currency to test something? |
| 18:04.02 | karl_w_w | any currency |
| 18:04.40 | Lunessa | … Well, there are street corners… |
| 18:05.16 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 18:05.25 | karl_w_w | nobody can afford this honey |
| 18:05.58 | mikma | http://i.imgur.com/b6dtI.jpg |
| 18:06.09 | Lunessa | If you have a toon you haven't logged in since the patch, you |
| 18:06.20 | Lunessa | "earn" justice points form the conversion |
| 18:06.29 | karl_w_w | good idea but i need to opena frame first |
| 18:06.35 | karl_w_w | but i can go do archaeology |
| 18:07.08 | Lopeppeppy | A tank is the answer, mikma. |
| 18:08.26 | karl_w_w | hits Fisker with a tank |
| 18:10.03 | mikma | lopeppeppy: yes, yes it is. |
| 18:10.05 | mikma | haste: http://imgur.com/gallery/bODrR |
| 18:10.35 | karl_w_w | oh what |
| 18:10.45 | karl_w_w | i got 8 troll fragments from 1 find |
| 18:10.52 | starlon | Lopeppeppy: http://i.imgur.com/b6dtI.jpg |
| 18:10.58 | karl_w_w | stealth nerf? |
| 18:11.30 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 18:11.35 | Stanzilla | and bosses got nerfed again, too |
| 18:11.40 | Stanzilla | rag hc is a free kill now |
| 18:11.50 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I said it, because mikma linked it. :) |
| 18:12.02 | starlon | oh :) |
| 18:12.22 | Dagmar | Great! You'll finally be able to get some better gear, then. |
| 18:12.32 | starlon | Your local police department likely has one. |
| 18:13.06 | Stanzilla | Dagmar: noope |
| 18:13.27 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. We use horses and 4 wheelers up here in the frozen north. More flexible. |
| 18:13.30 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/browse/19892/loose_flooring.gif |
| 18:13.31 | mikma | HAHAAA |
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| 18:13.41 | starlon | lol fair enough |
| 18:15.26 | Lunessa | Any curse client team folks want to help this guy? http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3657276868 |
| 18:15.37 | Lopeppeppy | Use a tank!! |
| 18:16.28 | nicoli_s | passed it on to the cc dev thx lunessa |
| 18:16.37 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
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| 18:59.00 | Fisker | i once tanked a guy karl_w_w |
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| 19:03.32 | Stanzilla | i once fiskered a Fisker |
| 19:03.45 | Fisker | oh no you don't Stanzilla |
| 19:03.59 | Stanzilla | oh yes I do |
| 19:04.04 | durcyn | did you do it in his fiskerhole? |
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| 19:04.35 | Stanzilla | ... |
| 19:04.36 | Stanzilla | dirty |
| 19:05.01 | Fisker | boo |
| 19:05.05 | Fisker | Blizzard caved in! |
| 19:05.13 | Torhal|work | Like your chest? |
| 19:05.30 | Fisker | not caved in yet |
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| 19:05.32 | durcyn | no, torhal, that's a different sucking sound. |
| 19:05.33 | foxlit | hah, unbeliable |
| 19:05.36 | Fisker | mad? |
| 19:05.46 | foxlit | dungeon finder is forming a group: found a tank, found a healer, waiting for two dps |
| 19:05.53 | Fisker | unbeliawhat? |
| 19:06.43 | nevcairiel | foxlit: that never happens, not ever! |
| 19:06.50 | Fisker | happened to me a while ago |
| 19:07.10 | nevcairiel | what does happen is that if finds a full group, and you have to wait for the dps to click ok .. then they are dropped for being slow .. and all over again! |
| 19:08.32 | Fisker | does anyone know if you can get past razorgore without "exploits" or being more than one? |
| 19:08.53 | nevcairiel | not that i'm aware |
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| 19:09.00 | Fisker | damn |
| 19:09.15 | Fisker | really want to get my remaining T2 gear |
| 19:09.17 | nevcairiel | Back in the day, even a GM failed at it |
| 19:09.19 | Fisker | but not a lot of people want to do it |
| 19:09.52 | nevcairiel | we had a instance reset and he couldnt kill razorgore for us, so instead of resuming where we stopped, we were allowed to kill everything again for double lootz. :) |
| 19:11.53 | Ackis | QOTD: Go write AddOns before your brains leak form your ears. |
| 19:13.36 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 19:13.47 | Fisker | razorgore is the first boss in BWL |
| 19:13.52 | Fisker | so not quite double loot |
| 19:14.39 | nevcairiel | at the time of the reset, we were already quite far progressed into the instance, then it bugged out and we had a fresh instance - so for all the bosses until then, two times loot in one week |
| 19:15.31 | Ackis | nowadays that'd get you perma banned from the internet |
| 19:15.51 | nevcairiel | maybe i would get soem work done, then |
| 19:16.15 | Fisker | the apparent idiocy of some decisions never fail to amuse me Ackis |
| 19:16.35 | foxlit | ew, transmog |
| 19:16.41 | Fisker | Have a system that allows precious items to be transmogrified to look like others |
| 19:16.54 | foxlit | now looking at people tells me nothing of how they'll behave :( |
| 19:17.00 | Fisker | deny restorations to people who have done non-repeatable quests and deleted quest items they wanted for transmog |
| 19:17.02 | Fisker | ??? |
| 19:17.03 | Fisker | profit |
| 19:17.52 | nevcairiel | Eh, i wouldnt expect to get some quest items back just because there is transmog now |
| 19:17.57 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FIxlF86usAE |
| 19:18.15 | Arrowmaster | the last one is hilarious |
| 19:18.23 | Fisker | no nevcairiel |
| 19:18.29 | durcyn | how exactly does that resolve fisker's entitlement issues, nev |
| 19:18.29 | Fisker | but you would have if they hadn't made transmogrify |
| 19:18.37 | Fisker | not entitlement issues |
| 19:18.57 | Fisker | just them making a previously offered service poorer due to a new feature that has nothing directly to do with that service |
| 19:20.27 | Fisker | but i guess that didn't satiate your trolling issues durcyn |
| 19:20.35 | durcyn | sate. |
| 19:20.36 | Ackis | Fisker: what did blizz cave on? |
| 19:20.47 | nevcairiel | I dont even remember how all the sets looked and which i would my gear to look like, even less so some quest items |
| 19:21.05 | Fisker | Ackis the Authenticator thing |
| 19:21.18 | Fisker | but i guess it's ok since it's a choice |
| 19:21.19 | Ackis | ah |
| 19:21.31 | Fisker | not that i need one either way |
| 19:21.34 | nevcairiel | what authenticator thing? |
| 19:21.38 | Fisker | in b4 entitlement issues |
| 19:21.50 | Fisker | the cached logins thingy for the authenticator |
| 19:22.01 | Fisker | they added an option so you can force it to always display |
| 19:22.09 | nevcairiel | great |
| 19:22.18 | nevcairiel | i was wondering why there wasnt an option |
| 19:22.19 | Fisker | s/display/require an authenticator/ |
| 19:22.44 | Fisker | Because it makes it easier to keylog |
| 19:23.00 | Fisker | though to be fair that concern was kinda irrelevant when i found out it was just simply clearing an entry in the registry to force it anyway |
| 19:23.01 | Fisker | :P |
| 19:23.16 | Fisker | kinda silly they can't do that serverside |
| 19:23.28 | nevcairiel | what does requiring the authenticator code have to do with keylogging |
| 19:23.44 | Fisker | you can keylog the authenticator code |
| 19:24.01 | Fisker | you can't keylog something it isn't asking for though |
| 19:24.07 | Fisker | but then again |
| 19:24.15 | nevcairiel | isnt it, you know, invalid after its been used, also, invalid after like 30 seconds? :d |
| 19:24.19 | Fisker | as i said it was kinda irrelevant as you could just clear the cache in the registry |
| 19:24.27 | Fisker | yes and no, more like 5 minutes |
| 19:24.34 | Fisker | actually probably closer to 2 |
| 19:24.40 | Fisker | 5 may be overdoing it |
| 19:24.51 | Torhal|work | Two is overdoing it |
| 19:25.01 | Torhal|work | I've typed the key before and next entry was invalid |
| 19:25.01 | Fisker | not unless they changed it recently |
| 19:25.02 | durcyn | it's usually one for RSA, aren't they just using their fobs |
| 19:25.08 | Torhal|work | typoed |
| 19:25.20 | Fisker | your authenticator could be slightly desynced |
| 19:25.25 | Arrowmaster | they use vasco not rsa |
| 19:25.48 | nevcairiel | or we would've needed new tokens a while back. :P |
| 19:25.58 | durcyn | good point |
| 19:26.36 | Fisker | btw |
| 19:26.39 | Fisker | funny story |
| 19:26.50 | Fisker | in WotLK the token wasn't one-time use |
| 19:27.11 | Fisker | you just had to use another login server |
| 19:27.21 | durcyn | why are you so worried about keyloggers anyway, do you infect yourself with malware for giggles? |
| 19:27.35 | Fisker | i'm not worried |
| 19:27.41 | nevcairiel | no, i infect him for giggles |
| 19:28.01 | Torhal|work | throws airtonix at Fisker, thereby infecting him. |
| 19:28.04 | durcyn | I didn't mean STIs |
| 19:30.48 | jnwhiteh | amro: I wish I had sound in my HoN =/ |
| 19:31.28 | Fisker | i have something in my hon |
| 19:31.42 | Fisker | need to be danish to get it |
| 19:31.46 | Fisker | or maybe norwegian |
| 19:31.48 | Fisker | GET IT haste ? |
| 19:32.00 | Ackis | what's the difference between norwegian and danish? |
| 19:32.09 | Fisker | danish is more awesome |
| 19:32.17 | Fisker | no bias there |
| 19:32.28 | durcyn | norwegians have larger external genitalia |
| 19:33.39 | Fisker | i wish |
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| 19:35.14 | karl_w_w | i thought blizz said we'd be able to earn conquest up to cap in random BGs |
| 19:36.18 | karl_w_w | now I know maths might've changed since I went to school a few years ago, but 100 conquest a day for 7 days is 700 conquest, and 700 is not 1650 |
| 19:36.23 | Dagmar | Maybe you've not been in the right random one yet |
| 19:37.06 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe they said "earn conquest to help you cap out", not "you can cap out entirely by AFKing in battlegrounds" |
| 19:37.36 | Fisker | i once fished in a battleground |
| 19:37.42 | Lopeppeppy | Me too. |
| 19:38.06 | Fisker | once grinded exalted with silvermoon before TBC was released, bought the mount and then dumped my main for a new alt |
| 19:38.10 | Fisker | in a battleground |
| 19:38.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh la la |
| 19:39.27 | Mr_Rabies | i tried to fish in firelands and it wouldn't let me :< |
| 19:39.38 | Mr_Rabies | all of those lakes of fire gone to waste |
| 19:39.49 | kd3 | av fishing was fun |
| 19:40.17 | kd3 | back in the days of week-long AVs |
| 19:40.59 | Lopeppeppy | Or even day-long AVs |
| 19:41.14 | durcyn | week long AVs were for reputation farming, not fishing! |
| 19:41.18 | Fisker | or even millenia-long AVs |
| 19:41.34 | kd3 | got AV/IF exalted in one weekend... |
| 19:41.47 | kd3 | then it was for fishing |
| 19:42.13 | durcyn | just IF? the repeatables had bleedthrough rep for all alliance factions |
| 19:42.21 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:42.29 | durcyn | and horde for that matter |
| 19:42.31 | kd3 | I got into revered before I gave up |
| 19:42.40 | Fisker | took me like a week or more of constant AV farming to get exalted with Silvermoon : |
| 19:42.43 | Fisker | :( |
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| 19:43.33 | kd3 | anyway, to class. blah |
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| 19:44.10 | durcyn | Fisker: they patched in exodar and silvermoon before the expansion went live, didn't they? I think i was exalted before it even went on sale |
| 19:45.18 | Fisker | yep, exactly |
| 19:45.22 | Fisker | well |
| 19:45.27 | Fisker | the cities weren't patched in |
| 19:45.29 | Fisker | the reputations were |
| 19:45.59 | Fisker | and i spent a good chunk of my christmas holidays playing AV to get exalted |
| 19:46.10 | Fisker | only to realize that i wanted to be a paladin when it came out :D |
| 19:46.14 | Lopeppeppy | Priorities... |
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| 19:46.34 | alestane | Pwhawhothename? |
| 19:46.48 | alestane | Finally making the leap? |
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| 19:47.17 | alestane | trips over a hug. |
| 19:47.23 | alestane | Oh hey, Cairenn, didn't see you there. |
| 19:47.40 | Cairenn | chuckles and hugs alestane |
| 19:48.38 | alestane | Okay, I'm totally confused now. |
| 19:49.02 | karl_w_w | is it me or are the undocumented changes the more interestin ones |
| 19:49.54 | Lopeppeppy | Usually, karl_w_w |
| 19:50.46 | Ackis | link? |
| 19:52.01 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_4.3.0_%28undocumented_changes%29 |
| 19:52.55 | foxlit | hm, so, question |
| 19:53.07 | foxlit | While gearing up through justice/valor, do you buy more expensive or cheaper items first? |
| 19:53.34 | karl_w_w | depends on lots of things :P |
| 19:53.57 | Lopeppeppy | Which is the better upgrade for which slot? |
| 19:54.12 | karl_w_w | what you're upgrading from, how good the secondaries are on the current piece and the upgrade |
| 19:54.35 | foxlit | assume you're a fresh 85 |
| 19:55.17 | karl_w_w | I'd ask rawr in that case :P |
| 19:55.18 | pnorman | got gold and/or time for rep or hyjal dailies items? |
| 19:55.23 | Lopeppeppy | All things being equal, with no single piece of gear absolutely being the suckiest and needing to be upgraded first, I'd totally buy the first thing I could afford, just to say I'd done it. :) |
| 19:55.36 | karl_w_w | doesnt rawr handle best currency use? i dont remember |
| 19:56.08 | karl_w_w | i really dont know what i'd do if i was a fresh 85 now :P |
| 19:56.23 | karl_w_w | buy the best cheap bits of boe gear first i guess |
| 19:56.32 | Fisker | Several items have had their durability increased. |
| 19:56.33 | Fisker | fuckers! |
| 19:56.44 | karl_w_w | then see what greens i need to replace |
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| 19:57.04 | pnorman | for my tank who was well over JP cap I looked at what slots didn't have any upgrades for my main spec from the new instance quests and drops |
| 19:57.22 | foxlit | my policy on hyjal is to do the first day only |
| 19:57.29 | Fisker | You can no longer delete characters that have mail or heirlooms in their inventory or void storage. <-i hated that btw |
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| 19:58.06 | Ackis | when do we get the gold -> jp conversion? |
| 19:58.15 | alestane | That was fun....my computer didn't panic or anything, just spontaneously rebooted when this app finished loading. |
| 19:58.29 | foxlit | alestane: windows? |
| 19:58.35 | alestane | OS X. |
| 19:58.47 | karl_w_w | Ackis: jp over cap was already converted i think? |
| 19:58.51 | foxlit | because then I was going to say that their new policy is not to show the panic screens |
| 19:58.56 | Fisker | nope karl_w_w |
| 19:59.04 | Fisker | got 7k JP at the moment |
| 19:59.06 | pnorman | JP over cap wasn't converted - had 6.1k on an alt |
| 19:59.10 | Fisker | not sure what i should use it for :( |
| 19:59.11 | karl_w_w | probably when next arena season starts then |
| 19:59.12 | durcyn | there's a setting in OSX to automatically restart on a kernel panic, isn't there |
| 19:59.18 | karl_w_w | which is probably next week |
| 19:59.19 | alestane | I'm not a big fan of whatever engine these people based their game port on, it's extremely heavy and seems to have some issues on marginal machines. |
| 19:59.28 | foxlit | not on by default, in any case |
| 19:59.45 | alestane | There might be, durcyn, although I've seen real panics as well (albeit very infrequently). |
| 19:59.55 | foxlit | our campus wifi is awesome |
| 20:00.08 | durcyn | "Restart automatically if the computer freezes." Energy Saver prefpane |
| 20:00.17 | foxlit | Lion does synchronous kernel panics there. |
| 20:01.09 | alestane | Snow Leopard doesn't appear to have that setting. |
| 20:02.39 | durcyn | it's machine-specific, same location in 10.6 and 10.7. |
| 20:02.57 | Lopeppeppy | synchronous kernal panics, is that like synchronized swim teams? |
| 20:02.59 | karl_w_w | big cats cant restart when they freeze |
| 20:05.28 | karl_w_w | new tyrande model is quite good, but she looks too short to me |
| 20:05.45 | nevcairiel | not normal nelf size? |
| 20:06.18 | karl_w_w | well she's I'd guess 1.8x my human male size :P |
| 20:06.27 | karl_w_w | but she doesnt look right |
| 20:06.32 | karl_w_w | in tallness |
| 20:07.54 | karl_w_w | just like lich king looked too short dispite being taller than everyone |
| 20:11.11 | karl_w_w | hmm, guards talk to you on left click now as well |
| 20:12.18 | amro | jnwhiteh: how come you don't? |
| 20:12.40 | amro | jnwhiteh: also, I just pulled a chronos out of his sphere with rampage |
| 20:12.42 | amro | no kill for yuo |
| 20:14.44 | Fisker | haste |
| 20:14.49 | Fisker | CUSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMS |
| 20:15.10 | Fisker | oh well it's their time they're wasting, not mine :( |
| 20:17.13 | Fisker | btw |
| 20:17.21 | Fisker | did any of you guys fap to the hour of twilight storyline? |
| 20:17.28 | alestane | http://early-onset-of-night.tumblr.com/post/13348728615/tattoo-artist-ryan-fitzgerald-from-dayton-oh-was somewhat NSFW. |
| 20:17.42 | durcyn | karl_w_w: it's the diablo 3 style clicking, every interaction works with left and right by default now |
| 20:17.49 | Fisker | lol alestane |
| 20:18.01 | durcyn | karl_w_w: AKA "play our game with a fucking xbox controller. derp." |
| 20:18.07 | Fisker | interaction in D3 doesn't work on rightclicking |
| 20:18.12 | Fisker | only left-clicking |
| 20:18.24 | Kraps_w | Fisker: i fapped to the movie twilight |
| 20:18.56 | Fisker | i figured |
| 20:19.11 | durcyn | that vampire dude was pretty dreamy amiright kraps |
| 20:19.26 | Kraps_w | yup |
| 20:20.24 | Fisker | i got an epic from the new instance btw |
| 20:20.31 | Fisker | so i put it on AH for 10k |
| 20:20.33 | Fisker | then i did LFR |
| 20:20.39 | Fisker | then it was down to 2k :( |
| 20:21.02 | nevcairiel | shouldnt have done that LFR |
| 20:21.27 | Lopeppeppy | Vampires don't sparkle. |
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| 20:21.54 | nevcairiel | Of course they don't, since they don't exist - duh |
| 20:22.27 | Ackis | is it possible to delete accounts linked on your battle.net ID? |
| 20:22.38 | alestane | http://www.commissionedcomic.com/?p=4416 |
| 20:22.41 | Fisker | yes Ackis |
| 20:24.19 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:25.30 | Fisker | :( |
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| 20:26.32 | Fisker | Ackis is a jerk |
| 20:26.46 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: sparkling vampires is the -least- offensive part of stephanie meyer's shitty shitty novels, in my not so humble opinion. |
| 20:27.02 | Sintacks | Fisker is a madbro |
| 20:27.30 | Fisker | i deserve to be a mad bro |
| 20:27.39 | alestane | Let's see, there's sexism, role reinforcement, and sensationalist overuse of adjectives. |
| 20:27.48 | Ackis | I just asked blizzard to transfer my account transactions to my main account and to delete all my inactive accounts, wonder if the first part of that can be done |
| 20:28.10 | Fisker | i don't think they can do the account transactions |
| 20:28.21 | Fisker | and idk about US |
| 20:28.28 | Fisker | but you need to send a signed letter to do it in the EU |
| 20:28.48 | Kraps_w | idk alestane, Edward is pretty dreamy |
| 20:28.53 | Ackis | really? that sucks |
| 20:29.02 | Fisker | it's the law |
| 20:29.09 | Fisker | which is why it may not be the case in the US |
| 20:29.16 | Ackis | I'm not in the US |
| 20:29.26 | Fisker | US servers jersk |
| 20:30.07 | Ackis | Canadian laws jersk |
| 20:30.28 | Fisker | not nessecarily dickbutts |
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| 20:34.35 | alestane | "Fixed xStart/yStart regression bug for non-multitouch introduced by fixing casenum 9618 for multitouch. xStart/yStart should now return the correct values for both cases. " |
| 20:34.40 | alestane | Gotta love bugs fixes. |
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| 20:37.11 | kd3|netbook | ah, the joys of getting taught crap I already know |
| 20:37.19 | kd3|netbook | today's subject: virtual machines |
| 20:37.27 | nicoli_s | like the matrix? |
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| 20:39.11 | kd3|netbook | funny, he's only talking about vmware... not neater stuff like paravirtualization |
| 20:39.15 | Torhal|work | kd3|netbook: Ask the prof if you can take over for the lecture. |
| 20:41.54 | kd3|netbook | lol. I'd just bitch about his security presentation from a few weeks back correcting all of the misinformation about linux |
| 20:44.01 | kd3|netbook | "Professor, what about SELinux?" "Uhh, we'll get to that." this is the second-last class of the semester |
| 20:47.15 | Fisker | I remember casually correcting one of my teachers :P |
| 20:47.19 | Fisker | damn he got pissed |
| 20:47.31 | Fisker | left the classroom to get a book only to see i was right |
| 20:47.32 | Fisker | lolo |
| 20:47.35 | alestane | I have somewhere a collection of things scribbled on MIT teaching evaluations, like "He teaches like Speedy Gonzales on a caffeine high" and "TA improved steadily throughout the semester; I think he started drinking and it really loosened him up." |
| 20:47.57 | alestane | One of my favorites is "Text would be more enjoyable served in an alfredo sauce." |
| 20:51.12 | alestane | And now I have to head to class myself. |
| 20:51.26 | alestane | Ciao, Beautiful people! |
| 20:51.32 | alestane | ...as Peppy is wont to say. |
| 20:51.35 | pnorman | I had a professor who would of been more enjoyable served in alfredo sauce. |
| 20:52.26 | Lopeppeppy | I don't say ciao. That's Lunessa. |
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| 21:03.11 | Ackis | http://cuteoverload.com/2011/11/30/the-most-prosh-kittenmom-combo-youll-ever-see/ |
| 21:05.07 | nicoli_s | awww |
| 21:05.20 | nicoli_s | its funny though, i have 2 cats who look like that and they hate each other |
| 21:06.23 | Lopeppeppy | I have no idea what half of that gibberish means, but the kitten is cute. |
| 21:06.38 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: don't read, just look and go awwww |
| 21:06.44 | Ackis | I learned that a long time ago |
| 21:06.49 | Ackis | lolcat speak makes me go wtf? |
| 21:08.26 | Lopeppeppy | It's not lolcal, is it? I have absolutely no idea, even. |
| 21:09.19 | Nechckn | jnwhiteh or anyone who knows - is wowprogramming updated with the API changes - or someplace else? |
| 21:09.31 | jnwhiteh | Nechckn: you should look first |
| 21:09.33 | jnwhiteh | its been updated =) |
| 21:09.43 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 21:10.02 | Nechckn | I am, but I do not see "updated for x.y" or anything - hence the question. |
| 21:10.10 | Nechckn | Many thanks!! Sorry to bother, though! |
| 21:10.18 | jnwhiteh | oh, no bother =) |
| 21:10.23 | jnwhiteh | didn't realise you meant the API list |
| 21:10.27 | jnwhiteh | good point |
| 21:10.32 | jnwhiteh | i'll see if i can find time to add something to it |
| 21:10.43 | jnwhiteh | it'll be easier to see if i can get the api scan diffs up as well |
| 21:14.56 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 21:15.00 | Fisker | customs is a bitch |
| 21:15.11 | Fisker | looking for anthrax bombs and shit |
| 21:17.16 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: aww = |
| 21:17.16 | jnwhiteh | my laptop is in poland |
| 21:17.17 | Fisker | :O |
| 21:17.25 | jnwhiteh | should get to germany tonight |
| 21:17.27 | Fisker | atleast i won't need it until they send my GN anyway |
| 21:17.29 | jnwhiteh | then the UK sometime tomorrow |
| 21:17.41 | Fisker | which may be in ??? years :( |
| 21:17.45 | nevcairiel | hm, still time to intercept it then! |
| 21:17.48 | Fisker | stupid volume bug |
| 21:18.00 | Fisker | thanks for delaying my phone by several weeks to apply an OTA update to my phone |
| 21:18.02 | Fisker | lololo |
| 21:22.36 | nicoli_s | your welcome |
| 21:23.05 | Adys | old-timers, I need some help |
| 21:23.07 | Adys | http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSaufA7bIH1FxsVGpzaq9uH5BXT3f8XX9YFTVkii7NxSQRRvZptXxRr-ul7 |
| 21:23.08 | Fisker | thanks nicoli_s |
| 21:23.14 | Adys | which console had this kind of cartridges? |
| 21:23.19 | Fisker | famcom? |
| 21:23.19 | Adys | this exact kind |
| 21:23.49 | Fisker | meaning? |
| 21:24.00 | nicoli_s | those look fake to me |
| 21:24.32 | Fisker | still looking like famicom cartridges to me |
| 21:24.34 | Adys | im being told its this one: http://n2.vatera.hu/photos/05/dd/a385_1_big.jpg |
| 21:24.55 | nicoli_s | never seen that before |
| 21:25.01 | Adys | i cant recognize it |
| 21:25.20 | Fisker | wonder if he is invisible :( |
| 21:25.22 | Fisker | wonders* |
| 21:25.27 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_2_(console) |
| 21:25.28 | Adys | haha |
| 21:25.29 | Adys | its that |
| 21:25.44 | nicoli_s | lol i love that translated name |
| 21:26.15 | nevcairiel | So it really is a Famicom/NES |
| 21:27.05 | Adys | Terminator 2 [...] was a video game console sold in Serbia, Croatia, Bulgaria, Romania, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Albania, India and Hungary (where it was known as Sárgakazettás nintendo - Nintendo with yellow cartridges) . It was also sold in Spain |
| 21:27.14 | Adys | I love that |
| 21:27.29 | nevcairiel | Heh, Nintendo with yellow cartridges |
| 21:28.42 | Fisker | y u haet? |
| 21:29.57 | olafski | say so the darkmoon faire isn't around right now eh.. can we reach the island at all? |
| 21:30.13 | foxlit | gr, horde Vashj'ir ship defense quest |
| 21:30.16 | foxlit | It appears to be stuck |
| 21:30.26 | foxlit | olafski: the island probably doesn't exist |
| 21:33.40 | Ackis | Greetings %Character:Name%! |
| 21:33.46 | Ackis | GM's are getting lazy :( |
| 21:33.48 | olafski | foxlit: darn :( |
| 21:34.03 | olafski | wanted to start fishing for the pet :P |
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| 21:35.56 | foxlit | "Average ticket wait time: 13 hr 32 min" |
| 21:36.06 | foxlit | I wonder how that works out with them fixing my quest issue :( |
| 21:36.21 | Raimondas | foxlit: It's a bug, happening to everyone, Horde and Alliance side too |
| 21:36.46 | Raimondas | foxlit: The naga fight that comes after it is bugged too. You may as well go to Hyjal. :) |
| 21:36.55 | foxlit | I'm 85 |
| 21:37.14 | Raimondas | AH. Most of the people reporting it have been freshly turned 80 |
| 21:37.38 | foxlit | (in that case, they're silly for doing Vashj'ir first) |
| 21:37.42 | Ackis | foxlit: my ticket was answered in about 30 minutes |
| 21:38.01 | Fisker | did you have to send a letter then? |
| 21:38.31 | Ackis | Fisker: that ticket hasn't been answered yet (I submitted two tickets) |
| 21:38.36 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 21:38.39 | Fisker | y u spam? |
| 21:38.50 | foxlit | but basically, wtb earthen ring quartermaster |
| 21:39.28 | Ackis | two different issues relating to different components of WoW... one was ingame, the other was accoutn management |
| 21:39.56 | nevcairiel | you bother them with some account question in patch week? |
| 21:39.58 | nevcairiel | shh |
| 21:40.17 | Ackis | I also asked for a GM joke too nevcairiel! |
| 21:40.24 | Fisker | dick |
| 21:40.28 | Fisker | reported for wasting their time |
| 21:42.52 | foxlit | teehee, dungeon finder. |
| 21:42.59 | foxlit | Queued as healer, got an instant tank; waiting for 3 dps |
| 21:43.51 | nevcairiel | again? |
| 21:44.17 | foxlit | it seems to be the state of the queue today |
| 21:44.23 | foxlit | Granted, I'm queueing for random normals |
| 21:44.41 | nevcairiel | heh, those are always kidna weird |
| 21:45.42 | Kemayo | Addon to add quality-colors to the character frame? |
| 21:46.06 | foxlit | random discovery: quality colors are meaningless during cataclysm levelling |
| 21:46.24 | nevcairiel | was the same in wotlk leveling really |
| 21:46.37 | foxlit | greens and blues seem to have the same stats if they have the same item level. You just get the blues a bit sooner. |
| 21:47.51 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 21:49.02 | nevcairiel | no Fisker |
| 21:49.10 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:49.13 | Fisker | i will cry |
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| 21:51.42 | Thunder_Child | http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/ea64/ |
| 21:56.18 | farmbuyer | Thunder_Child: I am strangely intrigued. I think I want one on the mantle. |
| 22:00.28 | Thunder_Child | farmbuyer: as long as you dont feel the need to take it out like Cairenn would |
| 22:00.39 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:01.05 | Torhal|work | How the hell would you do that? Pull it around in a wheel-equipped bread basket? |
| 22:07.50 | jnwhiteh | amro: on a landslide here |
| 22:07.54 | jnwhiteh | 1588 on f2p |
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| 22:11.00 | Fisker | i hate landslides jnwhiteh |
| 22:16.30 | durcyn | fisker, fix the sound in ACR please |
| 22:17.09 | Fisker | would if i could |
| 22:21.49 | starlon | What's ACR? |
| 22:22.00 | starlon | "an addon" |
| 22:22.32 | starlon | bleh back to sleep |
| 22:23.26 | durcyn | assassin's creed revelations. audio works maybe one in ten times it's launched |
| 22:23.31 | durcyn | and it's fisker's fault |
| 22:23.51 | Fisker | it would be if it could be |
| 22:24.09 | Fisker | if only it could be |
| 22:24.14 | Fisker | i would have sabotaged it so much |
| 22:24.26 | Fisker | fucking shit game, shit company and shit something |
| 22:25.09 | durcyn | you hate ubisoft, but you give money to activision |
| 22:25.45 | Fisker | i try not to |
| 22:26.22 | Fisker | unfortunately one of the only PC developers are stuck there |
| 22:27.03 | Fisker | if you gave me a chance to sabotage that i would take it btw |
| 22:30.33 | Sintacks | ...s\libs\LibBattlegrounds-2.0\LibBattlegrounds-2.0.lua |
| 22:30.40 | Sintacks | Like I know which addon that is actually in ... |
| 22:30.44 | Sintacks | fukn swatter |
| 22:31.23 | durcyn | it ends in s. |
| 22:34.28 | Fisker | just gonna poop durcyn |
| 22:37.23 | Jamash | https://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/1-3-years/e806/?srp=1 :-O |
| 22:38.32 | Jamash | EXTERMINATEs Fisker |
| 22:39.17 | Fisker | why? |
| 22:47.37 | kd3 | $300 for a 1-3yo? |
| 22:49.26 | foxlit | wind shear === awesome |
| 22:50.09 | foxlit | shamans just need to steal tranq from hunters and life would be grand |
| 22:55.21 | Jamash | so I gets on to put my old useless but sentimentally valued stuff in void storage |
| 22:55.30 | Jamash | and I run out of money derp |
| 22:56.07 | Jamash | 'cause I sent most of it from my main to an alt to buy epic flying |
| 22:57.24 | Stanzilla | clears Fisker's content |
| 22:57.33 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.10 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 22:59.18 | Stanzilla | heroic modes next week |
| 22:59.22 | Stanzilla | will be a pain in teh a |
| 22:59.42 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 23:00.13 | Stanzilla | why |
| 23:01.01 | Fisker | because i can |
| 23:01.19 | Jamash | no you can't |
| 23:01.24 | jnwhiteh | amro: 1566 |
| 23:01.29 | jnwhiteh | three trolls in a row :P |
| 23:01.50 | Fisker | i just did Jamash |
| 23:01.52 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh once more |
| 23:02.39 | Jamash | I wonder what happens if you transmogrify benediction/anathema |
| 23:04.09 | Fisker | you get the current version of it? |
| 23:05.00 | Jamash | no I mean if you use it as the target, not the source |
| 23:05.22 | Fisker | oh snap |
| 23:05.50 | Fisker | maybe you'll just have to do both versions of it |
| 23:06.03 | Fisker | i will now sleep |
| 23:06.05 | Fisker | goodbye jnwhiteh |
| 23:06.09 | Fisker | not so goodbye haste |
| 23:06.13 | Fisker | however goodbye Stanzilla |
| 23:06.21 | Stanzilla | goodbye Fisker |
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| 23:09.27 | amro | jnwhiteh: on cladhaire? |
| 23:09.31 | jnwhiteh | aye |
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| 23:10.00 | amro | I got tired, had a game with 4 carries and MY team kills the remake vote |
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| 23:29.17 | Jamash | what |
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| 23:31.08 | pompy | That's right addon authors, you heard the man!! http://www.curse.com/forums/games/world-of-warcraft/148610-please-update-all-addons-to-4-3?comment=6 lolol. |
| 23:31.30 | jnwhiteh | amro: 1555 |
| 23:31.35 | jnwhiteh | just bad |
| 23:34.36 | amro | ouch |
| 23:35.11 | nicoli_s | lol love that analogy in the last post |
| 23:35.15 | nicoli_s | im gonna go do that some time |
| 23:35.46 | nicoli_s | which reminded me to check if the new stephen king book is out, which it is, awesome |
| 23:36.10 | Torhal|work | ROFL |
| 23:37.23 | nicoli_s | and meh, why do i have to wait like 6 months for the next dark tower book |
| 23:37.52 | Jamash | complaining that stephen king cranks his book machine too slowly = wut |
| 23:38.19 | nicoli_s | well i wouldnt complain if it hadnt been a few years since the last DT book |
| 23:38.56 | Torhal|work | I thought he wrapped that series up... |
| 23:39.00 | Torhal|work | Or is this the last book? |
| 23:39.57 | Fisker | lold |
| 23:40.46 | nicoli_s | well the last one was the last in the series, but this is just another book set in the same universe |
| 23:40.51 | Jamash | I thought he got hit by an angry truck for revealing the automotive civilization's secrets |
| 23:40.52 | nicoli_s | he hasnt said if its the same people/timeline or what |
| 23:41.11 | Torhal|work | nicoli_s: He bleeds that universe into his other stuff all the time. |
| 23:42.26 | Sintacks | awesome. my guild died |
| 23:43.41 | Fisker | gz |
| 23:43.53 | nicoli_s | oh i know |
| 23:44.09 | nicoli_s | i spent a whole summer trying to read all the DT and related book in semi order |
| 23:44.13 | nicoli_s | that was fun trying to figure out |
| 23:47.16 | Torhal|work | Heh |
| 23:52.49 | Wobin | Jamash: I heard you can't mog to Benediction |
| 23:52.54 | Wobin | as it's unique or something |
| 23:53.16 | Wobin | which confused me a bit |
| 23:57.01 | Wobin | oh disregard |
| 23:57.11 | Wobin | he couldn't put Bene into Void storage due to being unique |
| 23:57.33 | foxlit | what's a DT? |
| 23:57.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Korale (~korale@unaffiliated/korale) |
| 23:59.34 | Gagorian | Delirium tremens, a medical condition of uncontrolled shaking, typically due to alcohol or drug withdrawal |
