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| 00:20.10 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/1tNwk.png |
| 00:23.06 | Gnarfoz | is there a good online version of the Dungeon Journal that's being kept up to date? |
| 00:25.59 | Ketho | do you mean the text from the journal? |
| 00:30.05 | Gnarfoz | yes, but the text has several kinds of meta-information that needs to be preserved (indentation to indicate what belongs to what, icons to indicate if something is important for tanks, healer, dps, or everyone, interruptible, etc., also it has collapsible headers for everything and also has differing data for LFR, 10, 25 and Heroic 10/25) |
| 00:30.31 | Gnarfoz | so basically, an out-of-game clone of everything it does, maybe excluding the map, loot list and 3d model features |
| 00:32.23 | Ketho | so you want to port the complete Encounter Journal to an online version? |
| 00:34.20 | Ketho | wowhead afaik has something similar but just for the boss pages .. |
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| 00:47.53 | Gnarfoz | Ketho: http://aryu.olympe-network.com/encounterjournal/ like this, I know of others, but every one has different shortcomings ^^ |
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| 01:20.38 | karl_w_w | my god I hate people who put half an onion in the fridge without putting it in a bag |
| 01:20.48 | karl_w_w | or wrapping it somehow |
| 01:20.53 | mckenziemc | D: |
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| 01:23.09 | dolby | karl_w_w: is their name on it? put it in their desk drawer |
| 01:23.35 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 01:23.47 | bluspacecow | thinking of renaming my rogue alt |
| 01:23.52 | bluspacecow | to Mascara :P |
| 01:28.49 | karl_w_w | doesn't see the joke |
| 01:29.31 | foxlit | karl_w_w: there's no joke |
| 01:29.36 | foxlit | it's bound to be better than bluspacecow. |
| 01:29.55 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 01:29.56 | karl_w_w | crazy talk, nothing is better than bluspacecow |
| 01:30.07 | bluspacecow | rogue mispelt is rouge |
| 01:30.15 | bluspacecow | which is a makeup product |
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| 01:33.14 | Mr_Rabies | also a bat from the sonic universe |
| 01:34.22 | Mr_Rabies | i always thought that was just a horrible translation mistake, since Rogue the Bat makes more sense, but apparently it's not |
| 01:48.34 | foxlit | the bat in question is unquestionably rouge. |
| 01:48.52 | foxlit | (it's also a color) |
| 01:49.15 | Mr_Rabies | you're a color |
| 01:49.18 | Mr_Rabies | jerk :( |
| 01:50.19 | foxlit | hm, okay, more like with rouge inserts. |
| 01:50.36 | bluspacecow | interesting |
| 01:50.54 | bluspacecow | a test build has been pushed after a release candidate build on the 4.3 PTR |
| 01:51.02 | bluspacecow | typo or more testing required ? |
| 01:51.20 | foxlit | to the speculation mobile! |
| 01:51.33 | foxlit | see also: is this the end of WoW? |
| 01:51.42 | bluspacecow | naw |
| 01:51.48 | bluspacecow | the w is the end of wow |
| 01:52.30 | Stanzilla | half of my guild wants to quit after 4.3's content is clear .( |
| 01:53.35 | foxlit | who needs them? Raid Finder all the way to glory. |
| 01:53.46 | Stanzilla | bah :p |
| 01:54.19 | Mr_Rabies | a good chunk of my guild are going to Sweater when it comes out |
| 01:55.59 | Mr_Rabies | i really hope realms are different in Titan, and that they become less of an issue in WoW sometime soon |
| 01:56.19 | Mr_Rabies | right now there's too many dead and dying realms |
| 01:56.56 | Xyphoid | life really sucks when you have RL friends who play on more than one realm |
| 01:57.14 | Xyphoid | roll the dice and guess who's going to still be playing when you finish levelling! |
| 01:58.11 | Corrodias | life sucks! |
| 02:00.00 | Mr_Rabies | there really should be a bulk discount on moving characters from realm to realm, I'm sure they're losing a lot of people to empty Stormwinds and Orgs |
| 02:00.05 | Xyphoid | yeah |
| 02:00.13 | Mr_Rabies | i know i don't play except to raid anymore |
| 02:00.19 | Xyphoid | i have friends who're still playing on a different server |
| 02:00.22 | Corrodias | losing people, yeah, right |
| 02:00.29 | Corrodias | they're just getting more money from people moving characters around |
| 02:00.40 | Xyphoid | but screw paying $50 per character, i'll just quit instead |
| 02:01.03 | Mr_Rabies | what Xyphoid said |
| 02:01.10 | Corrodias | good. |
| 02:01.47 | Mr_Rabies | i doubt many people would transfer all their alts when their interest has slowly decreased from a slowly dying community |
| 02:01.59 | Mr_Rabies | they'd sooner quit, i'd think |
| 02:02.11 | Xyphoid | i just wish you picked a server when logging in |
| 02:03.36 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, that'd be optimal, they could also have the realms be not one individual server for each continent if they did that, they could load balance a lot better based on what was needed i'd think |
| 02:04.10 | Mr_Rabies | as it is now, that's not possible, 2004 code is 2004 code :/ |
| 02:04.20 | Mr_Rabies | but it'd be great if realms were way less of an issue |
| 02:06.01 | foxlit | They're making that game too |
| 02:06.05 | foxlit | It's just called Diablo 3 |
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| 02:17.03 | Shadowed | oh god |
| 02:17.16 | Shadowed | tekkub the Ampere panel is so ugly now, why do you hate standard text scrolls :( |
| 02:32.44 | Arrowmaster | ive got too much stuff to watch and not enough time to watch it thanks to skyrim |
| 02:34.41 | A-KO | I want to find the best mage gear in skyrim |
| 02:34.49 | A-KO | right now doing the stuff for winterhold |
| 02:35.17 | Arrowmaster | you probably cant find it but need to create it |
| 02:35.29 | A-KO | find/create/figure out how to get it |
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| 03:25.52 | pompy | Arrowmaster: jeez at least 4 ppl are level 50 already :O http://www.trueachievements.com/achievementgamer.aspx?achievementid=157074 |
| 03:26.44 | Arrowmaster | not surprising since you can power certain skills to 100 without even getting in combat |
| 03:27.14 | A-KO | hahahaha |
| 03:27.17 | A-KO | I just linked that to a buddy of mine |
| 03:27.19 | A-KO | who worked on the game |
| 03:27.21 | A-KO | first thing |
| 03:27.22 | A-KO | HOW |
| 03:27.24 | A-KO | what the fuck |
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| 03:27.47 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u Xinny |
| 03:29.14 | pompy | A-KO: lol |
| 03:30.13 | pompy | now hes gonna bring that to his coworkers and they are gunna plan a nerf patch! |
| 03:35.18 | A-KO | nah |
| 03:35.18 | A-KO | he said some of them played it pre-release |
| 03:35.27 | A-KO | now he's bragging about the Skyrim vs MW3 stats |
| 03:37.07 | Arrowmaster | A-KO: ask him how i can get a Dwarven Sphere Crossbow |
| 03:37.42 | A-KO | he says he doesn't even know what they do |
| 03:37.47 | A-KO | (the dwarven spheres) |
| 03:38.09 | A-KO | he says he tested faction quests and the main questline |
| 03:38.22 | Arrowmaster | i found it listed on http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Weapons with a damage of 35 compared to a Daedric Bow's 19 |
| 03:38.34 | Arrowmaster | i bet its not obtainable |
| 03:40.12 | Arrowmaster | i wonder why anybody would need this http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveled_Items#Dragonbane |
| 03:40.19 | Arrowmaster | the dragons are easy enough |
| 03:42.10 | A-KO | pays to live near Bethesda HQ :P |
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| 03:42.48 | pompy | "Trade In This Video Game Item for $1.00 Trade in Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim for a $1.00 Amazon.com Gift Card that can be redeemed for millions of items store wide." |
| 03:42.50 | pompy | :O |
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| 03:43.19 | Sintacks | lol wtf |
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| 03:53.36 | jovrtn | anyone around? I'm curious about methods to cancel buffs during combat |
| 03:54.07 | bluspacecow | dyings good |
| 03:54.09 | bluspacecow | :O |
| 03:55.24 | jovrtn | I'm just starting out with add-on development, not sure what would work and what wouldn't |
| 03:55.42 | jovrtn | could I attach an event to an existing blizz button, so a buff gets cancelled during a key press? |
| 03:57.15 | jovrtn | would that get around the combat restriction? |
| 03:57.20 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:58.17 | jovrtn | boo |
| 03:59.13 | pompy | @describe achieveache |
| 03:59.14 | Repo | pompy: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/achieveache/. AchieveAche. Tool to search for achievements |
| 04:02.03 | Arrowmaster | Robert Carlyle is pretty good in Once Upon a Time |
| 04:03.22 | pompy | lol - http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lufa8gzUyw1qdqu2qo1_500.jpg |
| 04:05.42 | karl_w_w | holy smokes annual pass take-up is huge |
| 04:06.09 | karl_w_w | among mmo-c readers :P |
| 04:10.19 | karl_w_w | well thinking about it, maybe it's not that high |
| 04:10.53 | karl_w_w | seeing as 60% take-up basically means 40% are questioning whether they will be playing in a year |
| 04:17.17 | mckenziemc1 | or solidly for a year |
| 04:17.30 | mckenziemc1 | i know you said basically, but i think that distinction's too important |
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| 04:20.22 | A-KO | http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82004248/ < roflcopter |
| 04:27.57 | pompy | http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lizqxt7V0V1qd1ln9.png |
| 04:28.38 | karl_w_w | lol pompy |
| 04:28.45 | Trela | Kind of smart. |
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| 04:29.22 | pompy | haha |
| 04:33.22 | Dagmar | Holy crap when you go on a bender in Skyrim, you _really_ get hammered |
| 04:33.44 | Dagmar | I woke up all the way on the west side of the map |
| 04:33.55 | Arrowmaster | lol? |
| 04:34.17 | Arrowmaster | is this for some quest ive heard about or did you just randomly decide to get drunk |
| 04:34.34 | Dagmar | It was a drinking contest with some guy named Sam |
| 04:35.05 | Dagmar | I thought I was going to get mugged but apparently we just went on a drinking spree and at some point I may have groped some statuary |
| 04:38.41 | Mr_Rabies | that's pretty rad |
| 04:38.51 | Mr_Rabies | i hated how dead the world in oblivion felt |
| 04:39.08 | Mr_Rabies | everyone FELT like they were just automatons going about with their programming |
| 04:39.28 | Mr_Rabies | while i know that's what they are, it wasn't at all convincing that they were anything but |
| 04:40.54 | airtonix | hey |
| 04:41.51 | airtonix | Dagmar: guess waht |
| 04:42.53 | Dagmar | What |
| 04:43.07 | airtonix | i got skyrim running under linux |
| 04:43.12 | airtonix | therefore |
| 04:43.15 | airtonix | i'm awesome |
| 04:44.26 | Dagmar | It works well enough under Win7 and has only crashed twice |
| 04:44.42 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 04:45.04 | airtonix | it's only crashed twice for me too |
| 04:45.24 | Arrowmaster | hasnt crashed for me at all |
| 04:45.34 | airtonix | quiet console boy |
| 04:46.16 | Dagmar | By the way that tip about enchanting daggers == win |
| 04:46.39 | Dagmar | Turn Undead is pricey enough I was able to get the house rather quickly |
| 04:46.43 | airtonix | generally if your daggers don't have tips, you're doing something wrong |
| 04:47.09 | Arrowmaster | last time i tried it, frost damage was all i had and it didnt sell for much at all |
| 04:47.25 | Arrowmaster | i guess ill have to buy one of the turn undead weapons that always seem to be in the shops |
| 04:48.14 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: a better one is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFVwuu9XxCc |
| 04:49.00 | Arrowmaster | but it does nothing to help level enchanting so i still need to find a good profitable enchant |
| 04:50.36 | Dagmar | Well, I feel stupid. |
| 04:50.46 | Dagmar | I didn't know you could get a freaking RIDE to the other cities |
| 04:50.59 | Dagmar | I figured I'd have to buy a horse and tough it out |
| 04:51.39 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:51.53 | Arrowmaster | how did you get to the collage? |
| 04:52.17 | Dagmar | Ran. |
| 04:52.18 | Dagmar | On foot. |
| 04:52.21 | Arrowmaster | wow |
| 04:52.23 | Dagmar | Very, very quietly. |
| 04:52.58 | Dagmar | Is he fast-forwarding or is ther esome button to sprint I don't know about |
| 04:53.01 | Arrowmaster | and i thought my horse ride from winterrun to where the graybeards are was long |
| 04:53.07 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:53.12 | Arrowmaster | there is a sprint button |
| 04:53.16 | Arrowmaster | but hes also fast forwarding |
| 04:53.19 | Dagmar | *facepalm* |
| 04:53.50 | Arrowmaster | im laughing so hard at your fail |
| 04:54.24 | Dagmar | I dunno about fail. I made it all the way to the college without being nommed |
| 04:54.36 | Arrowmaster | what level? |
| 04:54.43 | Arrowmaster | and what all did you see on the way |
| 04:54.43 | Dagmar | I was level 8 when I got there. |
| 04:54.52 | Arrowmaster | level 1 when you left? |
| 04:55.08 | Dagmar | I saw some ice wights, some bandits, at some point some assassin tried to jack me but I've not seen anything further from that |
| 04:55.16 | Dagmar | Level 7 when I left. |
| 04:55.45 | Dagmar | Basically I decided I needed better spells so I went to where I'd heard there were mages |
| 04:55.59 | Arrowmaster | in that video he only shows getting attacked by ice wolfs but when i did it i killed 2 saber cats and an ice wright |
| 04:56.14 | Dagmar | Schlepping daggers works far better than books |
| 04:56.39 | Dagmar | You can get 200 for a turn undead dagger |
| 04:56.41 | Arrowmaster | oh and when i went back a dragon tried to kill my horse but he tanked him while i killed it |
| 04:56.56 | Dagmar | Dragons make me appreciate trees. |
| 04:57.03 | Dagmar | Particularly big ones you can get behind. |
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| 04:57.32 | Arrowmaster | seriously dragons have been one of the easiest of the big bads for me to kill |
| 04:57.32 | Dagmar | The technique ain't something bards are going to sing about, but it works. |
| 04:57.53 | Mr_Rabies | i met a dragon about 80 hours ago in dark souls |
| 04:57.54 | Arrowmaster | i just shoot them with arrows and they die without doing much damage to me |
| 04:57.56 | Mr_Rabies | i still can't kill it |
| 04:58.25 | Arrowmaster | i think the first bear i ran into did more damage to me than the previous dragon |
| 04:59.16 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: the books are faster though since you dont need to make them |
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| 05:00.44 | Dagmar | Five of them can bring you 1,000 gold easily |
| 05:00.55 | Dagmar | How many books is that at 18 a pop? |
| 05:00.58 | Dagmar | :) |
| 05:01.06 | Arrowmaster | i get 20 a pop |
| 05:01.29 | Arrowmaster | thieves guild armor |
| 05:01.42 | Mr_Rabies | this dragon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jXQAC7TxrnE#t=874s |
| 05:01.55 | Mr_Rabies | dude hits like a truck, even 90 hours in |
| 05:02.15 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you arent one of the people that travels all the way back to a city to buy a cure disease potion and use it are you? |
| 05:02.56 | Arrowmaster | i read about somebody doing that on a forum and laughed because you can get a free disease cure in any major city |
| 05:03.08 | Dagmar | Nah |
| 05:03.20 | Dagmar | I actually had one on me when the NPCs started commenting that I didn't look well |
| 05:03.33 | Dagmar | I've hit up those shrines several times since then |
| 05:03.34 | Arrowmaster | that npc always says that |
| 05:03.44 | Arrowmaster | she even called me a nord once |
| 05:03.55 | Arrowmaster | im a kitty cat not a nord |
| 05:03.56 | Dagmar | No, if you get rockjoint or bone something-or-other *many* of them will comment as you walk by |
| 05:05.08 | Mr_Rabies | a better look at the same dragon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jXQAC7TxrnE#t=1032s |
| 05:07.02 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: maybe she's a chav and calls everyone nord |
| 05:10.03 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: ah i just read that you pc guys get to hotkey stuff on 1-8, all we get on the console is 2 hotkeys |
| 05:11.01 | pompy | yeah same way pretty much with Dragon Age |
| 05:11.11 | pompy | they get a whole action bar on pc |
| 05:12.48 | Dagmar | Well, perhaps you should consider that only applies to people who read the manual. |
| 05:12.55 | Dagmar | hotkeys some things. |
| 05:13.41 | Arrowmaster | most people dont know how to hotkey on the consoles since its weird to do, you have to favorite something then press up or down on the dpad to bring up the favorite menu and then hold right or left on an item to hotkey it |
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| 05:29.21 | Arrowmaster | im going to have to go giant hunting later, looks like they have good loot |
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| 05:36.34 | Dagmar | What I'd like to know is at what point do you get to put Lydia in a chainmail bikini |
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| 05:58.43 | bluspacecow | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-gifs-doesnt-matter.gif |
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| 06:06.51 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=342537 |
| 06:13.40 | Fisker | i am the sickest of sick bluspacecow |
| 06:13.47 | bluspacecow | LOLZ |
| 06:13.51 | bluspacecow | wait lag |
| 06:14.02 | bluspacecow | your always sick fsisker fisker |
| 06:14.22 | Fisker | not always |
| 06:16.46 | bluspacecow | @arrow http://www.dorkly.com/comic/27206/how-to-conquer-a-dragon-in-skyrim |
| 06:18.44 | Fisker | old |
| 06:20.55 | Thunder_Child | looks like it's time to upgrade, Skyrim on max settings nets me 25-35 FPS |
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| 06:25.07 | Fisker | :( Thunder_Child |
| 06:25.39 | Thunder_Child | i know Fisker, i know |
| 06:26.59 | Thunder_Child | though i also have a GTX570 so i am not sure where the issue is |
| 06:27.36 | Arrowmaster | its a Bethesda game! |
| 06:27.55 | Arrowmaster | they always have low fps at max settings on good hardware |
| 06:28.22 | Thunder_Child | i didnt have that issue in morrowind or oblivion |
| 06:28.40 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 06:31.45 | Thunder_Child | why are there so many damn issues with the game.... |
| 06:35.50 | Dagmar | Because it's brand new |
| 06:36.04 | Dagmar | ...and Maybe you should try just "High" graphics if you want a really high frame rate |
| 06:36.18 | Dagmar | I'm doing fine on Medium with a 9800 |
| 06:37.15 | Thunder_Child | i mean issues like the fact that the audio has to be "44.1Khz 16-bit" or it wont work |
| 06:37.53 | Arrowmaster | im not having these framerate or audio issues you speak of |
| 06:39.53 | Thunder_Child | not for everyone, but enough that there are quite a few pages out there about fixes |
| 06:41.22 | Arrowmaster | i was waiting to be called a console fanboy again |
| 06:41.29 | Arrowmaster | but its getting late and im going to bed |
| 06:42.21 | TMc51 | Thunder_Child: Have you tried using the latest beta drivers? I've got a GTX 465, and I went from High @ 40 FPS to Ultra at the same framerates since upgrading to them. |
| 06:46.12 | Thunder_Child | TMc51: 285.79? |
| 06:47.20 | TMc51 | That's the one. |
| 06:47.39 | Thunder_Child | odd, doesnt say anything about helping skyrim |
| 06:48.01 | TMc51 | it did for me at least. YMMV |
| 06:51.11 | TMc51 | http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=11 I pretty much did this, got the game looking better than normal, and it's running better. |
| 06:53.38 | pompy | hes got 4gb of ram .. nice.. |
| 06:54.44 | Trela | http://imgur.com/S6pBx |
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| 07:00.29 | starlon | looks like my step aunt |
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| 07:11.35 | Mr_Rabies | Trela: http://i.imgur.com/0t57M.jpg |
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| 07:19.40 | Fisker | Thunder_Child pls |
| 07:19.48 | Fisker | skyrim is a cpu bound game |
| 07:20.07 | Fisker | which does kinda suck since the engine is still kinda sucky for quad cores |
| 07:20.15 | Fisker | i'm still having crashes here :( |
| 07:20.34 | Fisker | nowhere near as many as Fallout though |
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| 07:33.32 | airtonix | Fisker: umad? |
| 07:34.15 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: consolefanboi |
| 07:35.12 | airtonix | Dagmar: it's not really new |
| 07:35.21 | airtonix | skyrim is actually about 6 years old |
| 07:36.43 | Thunder_Child | yes airtonix, we are talking about release date, not tech date |
| 07:37.07 | airtonix | so what |
| 07:37.34 | Thunder_Child | so everything |
| 07:38.36 | airtonix | including your face? |
| 07:39.05 | airtonix | they've had plenty of time to fix the bugs |
| 07:39.57 | Thunder_Child | what i want to know is why there are no laptops that are like a macbook air with a 17in. screen |
| 07:40.09 | Thunder_Child | like a 17in. tablet with attached keyboard |
| 07:40.38 | Fisker | what would you want a laptop with a 17" screen for? |
| 07:41.43 | Thunder_Child | eyecandy |
| 07:42.11 | Thunder_Child | i dont use a 13in. screen on my desktop, why should i have to use one on a laptop? |
| 07:43.04 | kullervo | because you want to carry it |
| 07:44.16 | Thunder_Child | thats my point kullervo, 17in. in the (expanded) body of a macbook air would be portable |
| 07:44.42 | Thunder_Child | maybe a pound more at most |
| 07:45.02 | kullervo | Thunder_Child: ... oh. |
| 07:45.22 | kullervo | usually the screen size dictates the laptop's size, not the other way around |
| 07:46.01 | kullervo | (if I'm not making much sense, it's because I got up after <2 hours of sleep, system uptime and all that..." |
| 07:46.05 | Thunder_Child | kullervo: right, but you dont need expanded guts |
| 07:46.15 | Fisker | i want to sleep too |
| 07:46.19 | Fisker | but i got this problem |
| 07:46.20 | Thunder_Child | since i dont want it to do anything strenious |
| 07:46.22 | Fisker | 1. work |
| 07:46.24 | Fisker | 2. skyrim |
| 07:46.34 | Thunder_Child | strenuous* |
| 07:47.04 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: eh, the port failure is making me 'meh' the game |
| 07:47.12 | Fisker | what port failure? |
| 07:47.18 | Thunder_Child | from console to pc |
| 07:47.41 | Fisker | i don't get it? |
| 07:47.54 | Thunder_Child | i can see that |
| 07:48.14 | Fisker | umad+ |
| 07:48.16 | Fisker | ? |
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| 07:48.51 | Thunder_Child | hardly |
| 07:49.30 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 07:51.10 | Fisker | it's like saying Diablo 3 is meh because of the port failure |
| 07:51.49 | Thunder_Child | no Fisker, no troll food for you |
| 07:51.51 | pompy | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005WV6ZI8 |
| 07:52.02 | Fisker | does the truth hurt Thunder_Child ? |
| 07:53.47 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: only when i am getting beaten by it |
| 07:53.56 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 07:54.14 | Fisker | then you should have no problem accepting the fact that Skyrim is no more a console port than Diablo 3 is |
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| 07:59.44 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=skyrim+pc+port |
| 08:03.04 | Fisker | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=skyrim+goat+sex |
| 08:03.05 | Fisker | look |
| 08:03.09 | Fisker | there's goat sex in skyrim |
| 08:03.33 | Corrodias | you shouldn't need experimental, new drivers just to run a game right |
| 08:03.38 | Corrodias | make your fucking game work, developers |
| 08:05.07 | Fisker | non-whql'd drivers are not really experimental |
| 08:05.22 | Fisker | and that is basically how it is with every new game |
| 08:05.43 | Corrodias | nah |
| 08:05.48 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:05.51 | Corrodias | no |
| 08:05.59 | Fisker | any new major launch game will have a driver specifically for it |
| 08:06.09 | Corrodias | that's how it is with big publisher releases that use cutting-edge engines that SOMEHOW can't be satisfied with functionality that's out there |
| 08:06.11 | Fisker | sometimes they're lucky and get it whql'd before release, other times they don't |
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| 08:06.50 | Corrodias | you will note that very few games are big publisher releases with fancy, new engines |
| 08:08.15 | Corrodias | lots and lots of games somehow manage to look awesome without needing special considerations from driver developers |
| 08:08.26 | Corrodias | meanwhile, status quo is not always ideal |
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| 08:13.05 | Fisker | not really Corrodias |
| 08:13.53 | Corrodias | don't ever change, Fisker. i don't know what we'd do without you. |
| 08:14.04 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 08:14.56 | Fisker | Which drivers are you speaking of anyway? |
| 08:16.54 | Corrodias | i dunno, whatever ones made skyrim faster for somebody. oh yeah, and i think Rage was designed for new drivers, and AMD fucked up the release, but nobody really cared about Rage anyway. |
| 08:17.21 | Fisker | So |
| 08:17.34 | Fisker | You're not even complaining about drivers needed for the game to function |
| 08:17.34 | Fisker | GG |
| 08:18.06 | Corrodias | that depends on what you mean by function. launch and display things poorly? i guess not. |
| 08:18.30 | Fisker | "made skyrim faster" |
| 08:18.38 | Fisker | is not "launch and display things poorly" |
| 08:19.18 | Corrodias | that again depends entirely on your perspective and the performance you wind up with |
| 08:19.32 | bluspacecow | fisker brisker |
| 08:19.34 | bluspacecow | u mad ? |
| 08:19.46 | Fisker | a game that does not work is never synonymous with having the game work faster |
| 08:19.54 | Fisker | for it to work faster it actually has to work |
| 08:20.06 | Fisker | maybe bluspacecow |
| 08:20.11 | Fisker | we'll see in about an hour |
| 08:20.17 | mckenziemc | unless it's failing faster |
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| 08:56.14 | Cairenn | night all |
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| 09:19.47 | amro | morning |
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| 09:33.08 | airtonix | Fisker: do all danes dices their salad up into itsy bitsy tiny pieces ? |
| 09:33.27 | airtonix | i mean wtf |
| 09:33.38 | airtonix | do you hate raw vegetables that much? |
| 09:34.02 | mckenziemc | hey airtonix |
| 09:35.49 | airtonix | Fisker: also fisker, skyrim isn't new |
| 09:35.50 | bluspacecow | BBL worky tiems |
| 09:36.00 | mckenziemc | bye blu |
| 09:36.10 | airtonix | anyway mckenziemc |
| 09:36.40 | airtonix | what is your perspective on Danish culunary habits? |
| 09:36.55 | airtonix | or whatever |
| 09:37.00 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 09:37.03 | Fisker | i'm sawwy :( |
| 09:37.07 | Fisker | may cause you some issues |
| 09:37.12 | Fisker | because my bank is a fucking retard |
| 09:38.53 | airtonix | he's lying |
| 09:39.27 | Fisker | their detection mechanisms amuse me sometimes |
| 09:39.30 | Fisker | called my bank |
| 09:39.34 | Fisker | "Is my card blocked" |
| 09:39.36 | Fisker | "Yeah it is" |
| 09:39.44 | Fisker | "Do you buy stuff in dollars?" |
| 09:39.46 | Fisker | uh yes. |
| 09:40.52 | Fisker | and basically they said |
| 09:41.11 | Fisker | "Did you use a small as fuck amount of money on something during the last week" |
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| 09:41.35 | airtonix | Fisker: you failed to report it to your local council |
| 09:41.41 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 09:42.09 | airtonix | and your tried to make a purchase from an establishment that wasn't on the local councils list of approved vendors |
| 09:42.16 | amro | I like how they basically asked you "Did you use your card?" |
| 09:42.50 | Fisker | well amro to be fair i would normally buy shit in euro or dkk |
| 09:42.54 | Fisker | but seriously |
| 09:42.59 | Fisker | have they never heard of smartphones? |
| 09:43.05 | airtonix | no |
| 09:43.11 | airtonix | but they have heard of iphones |
| 09:43.24 | Fisker | I've even been charged yen from the android market because Google doesn't convert currency for me |
| 09:43.31 | Fisker | didn't have a problem with that |
| 09:43.32 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 09:43.49 | amro | cause nobody gives a shit about the yen, it's not 1980 anymore |
| 09:44.03 | airtonix | so Fisker, dealyo on salad |
| 09:44.31 | Fisker | but it's nice |
| 09:44.50 | Fisker | Because shit like that has some pretty annoying ramafications on everything else |
| 09:45.19 | Fisker | for example, i could get Ackis' Steam account locked because i just paid him to gift me Saint's Row 3, because the bank blocked my card |
| 09:45.24 | Fisker | rage |
| 09:45.37 | Fisker | Unless of course they changed it to just remove the game |
| 09:45.43 | Fisker | Also |
| 09:46.00 | Fisker | dicks |
| 09:47.49 | amro | well, you should have paid me to buy SR3 for myself |
| 09:47.51 | amro | nobody would get banned |
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| 11:22.08 | airtonix | hey Fisker,i'm playing skyrim in linux |
| 11:22.12 | airtonix | umad? |
| 11:22.29 | Fisker | nope |
| 11:22.34 | airtonix | i bet you are |
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| 12:08.16 | karl_w_w | why does everyone always have to be mad |
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| 12:11.35 | karl_w_w | also, why are external hard drives cheaper than internal |
| 12:13.51 | bluspacecow | @karl but im not mad |
| 12:13.53 | bluspacecow | im bad |
| 12:13.54 | bluspacecow | rad |
| 12:13.55 | bluspacecow | cad |
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| 12:15.21 | karl_w_w | sad |
| 12:15.26 | karl_w_w | fad? |
| 12:16.13 | bluspacecow | lad! |
| 12:16.15 | karl_w_w | Tad? |
| 12:16.58 | bluspacecow | dad |
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| 12:20.21 | karl_w_w | wad |
| 12:26.43 | bluspacecow | zad |
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| 13:01.58 | Mikk | karl_w_w: _possibly_ because they're lower performance than the ones sold for internal use |
| 13:02.16 | airtonix | umad? |
| 13:02.17 | Mikk | (but that's just a guess, i haven't actually cracked them open to see the HD specs) |
| 13:02.43 | airtonix | yeah and they could also be ide lol |
| 13:02.55 | Mikk | i would imagine they'd at least be lower cache size |
| 13:22.14 | amro | karl_w_w: the good ones aren't cheaper |
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| 13:29.45 | karl_w_w | I don't doubt it amro |
| 13:29.55 | karl_w_w | but the bad internals arent cheaper either :P |
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| 13:33.56 | amro | given equivalent specs, the external one will be more expensive |
| 13:34.17 | amro | if only because it also includes a power adapter and a sexy box |
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| 13:40.36 | Fisker | you're also forgetting the "OMG THE WORLD IS GOING TO END" of harddrives a few weeks ago |
| 13:40.46 | Fisker | which means prices are fluctuating greatly now |
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| 13:41.39 | Fisker | and likely the retail packaged products were less affected by the crisis than the bulk harddrives were |
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| 14:55.53 | Adys | Nice |
| 14:56.14 | Adys | Virgin Media switched to google apps for its webmail system |
| 14:57.19 | Kalroth | http://xkcd.com/ you prefer the dymaxion map, right Adys |
| 14:57.22 | Adys | always a nice surprise to log in expecting a shitty webmail and ending up on gmail |
| 14:58.31 | Adys | Kalroth: actually mine is plate carrée |
| 15:01.53 | Kalroth | oh |
| 15:06.10 | Lopeppeppy | You use maps? |
| 15:10.09 | bluspacecow | oh hai2u peppy |
| 15:10.27 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, dear. |
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| 15:13.53 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:13.56 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 15:16.39 | Fisker | oh ok bluspacecow |
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| 15:24.48 | airtonix | ok fisker |
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| 15:26.04 | Fisker | i disagree airtonix |
| 15:26.17 | airtonix | clarify |
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| 15:36.57 | airtonix | anway |
| 15:40.10 | Kraps_w | amway |
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| 16:00.48 | Moolgar | yo, anyone here ? i just heared if u do : ./script Quit();/run CancelLogout(); in arena, u wont loose MMR if ur about to loose match,... :S |
| 16:00.54 | Moolgar | is this a known issue ? |
| 16:04.46 | alestane | I haven't heard mention of it before. |
| 16:06.14 | Moolgar | well, its kinda critical bug in my opinion. at least for those who enjoy pvp ^^ |
| 16:06.27 | alestane | Have you verified that it does in fact happen? |
| 16:06.57 | jnwhiteh | alestane: that would involve attempting to exploit the system |
| 16:07.02 | jnwhiteh | which I suspect not everything is willing to do |
| 16:07.52 | Moolgar | not yet, but my sorce is very relyable, . i wanna make ticket before i test my self. but the person that told me tryed sevral times |
| 16:08.02 | Lopeppeppy | Simply report it as being a rumor that you're not willing to try. And don't try it. :) |
| 16:08.37 | Moolgar | yeah, i guess your right. |
| 16:10.32 | alestane | That is the sort of things they'll want to investigate. |
| 16:11.45 | Dagmar | Amazing how the people who claim to want harder combat than AI always seem so interested in new ways of cheating. |
| 16:15.00 | amro | you're assuming that all pvpers do it for the challenge |
| 16:15.31 | Corrodias | and that they're always interested in new ways of cheating |
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| 16:26.24 | sintAcks | http://lulzshirts.com/colorblind - FUCK YOU IMAGE. FUCK YOU. |
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| 16:41.23 | Arrowmaster | wtf http://entertainment.slashdot.org/story/11/11/14/0248208/german-copyright-group-to-collect-from-creative-commons-event |
| 16:43.07 | sintAcks | that's fucking stupid |
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| 17:01.23 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2REG3-Wb5gM |
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| 17:05.53 | olafski | is there some addon like QuickAuctions 3 that still works? having to click manually for posting / canceling is fine, I just need something to keep track of which gems I need to craft to keep the AH stocked =) |
| 17:06.41 | bluspacecow | kk i go homes nows |
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| 17:15.07 | olafski | nm ,) |
| 17:21.39 | alestane | hides from the awful library code behind Cairenn. |
| 17:21.52 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 17:22.40 | alestane | They are seriously storing a single state as three booleans, only one of which can be true. |
| 17:23.00 | Cairenn | Why is there an awful library code behind me? |
| 17:23.08 | sintAcks | the hell are you people talking about |
| 17:23.28 | sintAcks | why am i typing.. i was supposed to go to sleep an hour ago |
| 17:23.32 | Lopeppeppy | Quick, Cairenn, jump in the boat! It's the only way to escape. Code can't swim. |
| 17:23.34 | alestane | Sorry, misplaced modifier. |
| 17:23.48 | Cairenn | jumps in the boat with Lopeppeppy |
| 17:23.51 | alestane | Both those clauses modify me hiding. |
| 17:23.56 | Lopeppeppy | Funny though, alestane. |
| 17:24.12 | Cairenn | I thought so ;) |
| 17:25.02 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, hey, alestane! I'm failing first year art 101. Thought you'd get a kick out of that when you go to your classes. :P |
| 17:25.32 | alestane | You were auditing, though, right? |
| 17:25.52 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. For grade, because it's tied to my yearly review (and raise!) |
| 17:26.07 | alestane | Um. Not enough paper clips? |
| 17:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | Frellin' well guess not, sadly. |
| 17:27.10 | alestane | comforts Lopeppeppy. |
| 17:28.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm really a half-grade from failing, but I have to miss class on Thursday, so that drops my grade a half-grade (3rd absence). *shrug* Who knew that a freshman art class would be so nasty? |
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| 17:28.55 | alestane | And everything else is topped out? |
| 17:29.15 | Lopeppeppy | I do not know this "topped out" |
| 17:29.45 | alestane | This assumes that you get an A on anything there is left to do? |
| 17:30.00 | Kraps_w | did you look at hitler paintings? |
| 17:30.40 | Lopeppeppy | There's no "per item" grade, alestane. There's a midterm, and a final. That's it. Nothing else. |
| 17:30.48 | Lopeppeppy | Midterm, final, and attendance, sorry. |
| 17:31.31 | alestane | Sounds like the teacher wanted to give freshmen as little to try and argue their grades about as possible. |
| 17:31.52 | alestane | Still, that's pretty brutal. |
| 17:31.54 | Cairenn | That's ridiculous, imo |
| 17:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | Lesson learned for next fall - never take a class with this prof again, and do not let the grand boss tie it to my review. |
| 17:32.27 | alestane | yahsrs. |
| 17:32.57 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 17:33.10 | Kraps_w | grading isnt the same across a school? |
| 17:33.18 | Cairenn | rofl, no |
| 17:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Cairenn. It's a bummer, but I'll survive. |
| 17:33.50 | alestane | Good gods, no. Most schools set a grade scale, but it's up to professors to decide how your grade is determined on that scale. |
| 17:34.26 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, each professor has complete academic freedom to determine how work meets the grading standards. A C means that same on the % scale in terms of my transcript, but what that C means to the PROF, and what I have to do to earn it from her, is another story. |
| 17:34.43 | Mr_Rabies | for an art class, Lopeppeppy? that's insane |
| 17:34.54 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 17:35.02 | foxlit | more like insane for taking an art class to begin with :P |
| 17:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | For a first year art class, "no drawing experience necessary" |
| 17:35.13 | Mr_Rabies | i hate professors that show their true colors only after the drop/add period |
| 17:35.17 | foxlit | honestly, go do something useful. Like theoretical physics. |
| 17:36.27 | Kraps_w | "no drawing experience necessary"? |
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| 17:36.35 | Kraps_w | id go |
| 17:36.39 | Cairenn | About the only way I'd do well at all in any sort of art class would be if it was an art appreciation course (ie, identify the artist that made this) - I can't draw a straight line with a ruler |
| 17:36.59 | Cairenn | let alone anything else |
| 17:37.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love to take some art classes |
| 17:37.27 | Mr_Rabies | i love to draw, i'm just not very good at it |
| 17:37.28 | Mr_Rabies | :p |
| 17:37.51 | Lopeppeppy | This is my very first art class as an adult. I'm learning a lot, and getting better. It's fun. Except that whole grade thing. |
| 17:39.18 | Kraps_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.47 | Lopeppeppy | They usually are. Art snobs go to art history class, art creators go to studio art courses. |
| 17:39.54 | Kraps_w | ah |
| 17:40.12 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: look for me in a few hours =) |
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| 17:56.40 | Fisker | jnwhiteh pls |
| 17:58.37 | pompy | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2061023/Couple-sues-AirTran-Airways-finding-COCKROACHES-hanging-heads.html :O |
| 18:02.04 | Cairenn | ewwww! |
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| 18:05.47 | foxlit | you can't specify a list, afaik |
| 18:05.52 | foxlit | whee, scrollback |
| 18:07.23 | Thunder_Child | ~fail foxlit |
| 18:07.23 | purl | foxlit: FAIL! |
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| 18:10.42 | AcidWeb | http://massively.enjin.com/torgiveaway |
| 18:11.13 | AcidWeb | If somebody else dont have (and want) SWTOR beta key. |
| 18:12.41 | pompy | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/11/14/swedish_nuke_plant_fire/ all because of a vacuum cleaner! |
| 18:14.10 | amro | sweden has nukes and it's iran we're worried about? |
| 18:14.46 | pompy | nuclear power plant.. |
| 18:15.09 | amro | sweden has nuclear power plants and it's iran we're worried about? |
| 18:16.31 | Fisker | amro |
| 18:18.00 | amro | amro |
| 18:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | I need a miniature vampire hunting kit for $winterholiday! |
| 18:19.24 | Mr_Rabies | who's gonna be hunting the miniature vampires? |
| 18:20.38 | Lopeppeppy | My cat. |
| 18:20.57 | jnwhiteh | control-z ftw |
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| 18:25.00 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 18:25.07 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: sup |
| 18:25.15 | Fisker | it's cold |
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| 18:25.21 | jnwhiteh | aww, hell will warm you up! |
| 18:25.26 | Fisker | however my galaxy nexus may not be delayed because apparently everyone was speculating |
| 18:26.38 | amro | speculates Fisker |
| 18:26.47 | Fisker | why? |
| 18:26.50 | alestane | log-a(x) is ln(x)/ln(a)? |
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| 18:27.01 | Fisker | = no alestane |
| 18:27.57 | Cide | as in log(x) in base a? |
| 18:27.59 | Cide | then yes |
| 18:28.18 | alestane | "log sub a of x" |
| 18:28.59 | alestane | And log base a of a to the x equals x. |
| 18:29.37 | amro | confusing notation... imo log(a, x) = log(e, x)/log(e, a) |
| 18:29.44 | amro | that last sentenced short circuited my parser |
| 18:30.02 | alestane | Well, it's basically the definition of logarithms. |
| 18:31.49 | amro | I prefer to write down my math using symbols rather than words |
| 18:31.56 | amro | easier to scan |
| 18:32.25 | alestane | Still doesn't work so well in text documents and boxes. |
| 18:36.04 | Thunder_Child | word can do nearly all math symbols now |
| 18:36.51 | alestane | Honestly, if I really need proper math notation, I usually just get a piece of paper. |
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| 18:50.27 | Fisker | amro |
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| 19:32.22 | BlackNet | my background download has never downloaded squat so far |
| 19:32.48 | Kraps_w | BlackNet: thats a double negative |
| 19:33.19 | BlackNet | damn! so it has downloaded stuff :) |
| 19:33.20 | Kraps_w | i think |
| 19:33.24 | Kraps_w | haha |
| 19:33.55 | Xzempt | doesnt look like a double negative to me |
| 19:33.56 | Xzempt | D; |
| 19:34.00 | Thunder_Child | it is |
| 19:34.08 | Thunder_Child | never downloaded (nothing) |
| 19:34.17 | Xzempt | ah true |
| 19:34.59 | BlackNet | so it's not just me? |
| 19:35.38 | Thunder_Child | mine has never done it on it's own, i have had to manually trigger the bgdownloader |
| 19:35.48 | Thunder_Child | but then it works fine |
| 19:36.25 | BlackNet | it sits there and does nothing for the past few weeks. |
| 19:45.35 | BlackNet | looks like im going to get to revered with bloodsail |
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| 19:47.46 | alestane | station |
| 19:47.47 | Lunessa | station and all that. |
| 19:47.56 | Cairenn|meeting | base |
| 19:48.15 | Lunessa | all your base are belong to us. |
| 19:49.12 | Fisker | hey Lunessa |
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| 19:52.14 | Lopeppeppy | Station break! |
| 19:53.07 | Lunessa | You've been listening to WHYY Internet radio. Your source for all the trolling you could ever need. |
| 19:53.35 | Lopeppeppy | WHYN Internet Radio. Source for all trolling and whining! |
| 19:54.05 | mckenziemc | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 19:54.46 | alestane | "You're listening to WTMI...More than you EVER wanted to know!" |
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| 19:55.39 | Lunessa | alestane: That's the station I seem to get any time I'm in a bar chatting up a prospect… |
| 19:56.01 | alestane | Or WYRD. |
| 19:57.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm tuned to WTMI, every day, all day. |
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| 20:19.45 | amro | http://www.abeproductions.com/ godaddy still stuck in the past |
| 20:22.50 | jnwhiteh | why so sandy-bridge-e? |
| 20:23.02 | Fisker | no jnwhiteh no |
| 20:23.37 | Fisker | i need to stop jnwhiteh |
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| 20:25.29 | Fisker | have you been stopped jnwhiteh ? |
| 20:25.43 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 20:25.52 | jnwhiteh | 776 MB |
| 20:26.49 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 20:26.50 | Fisker | btw |
| 20:26.55 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:27.05 | Fisker | you now do not have to jailbreak your iphone |
| 20:27.16 | Fisker | because someone made an app where you can change stuff from your homescreen |
| 20:27.22 | Fisker | how that relates to jailbreaking i don't know |
| 20:27.25 | Fisker | but now you don't need it |
| 20:28.23 | jnwhiteh | why so galaxy nexus? |
| 20:29.01 | Fisker | why not? |
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| 20:47.32 | Lunessa | Worth reading: http://www.kalzumeus.com/2011/10/28/dont-call-yourself-a-programmer/ |
| 20:48.08 | Xyphoid | that's a wonderful article |
| 20:50.08 | alestane | User interface usability and clear understanding of business processes are at the root of most successful paid programming. |
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| 20:54.05 | Lunessa | Co-workers and bosses are not usually your friends: You will spend a lot of time with co-workers. You may eventually become close friends with some of them, but in general, you will move on in three years and aside from maintaining cordial relations you will not go out of your way to invite them over to dinner. They will treat you in exactly the same way. You should be a good person to everyone you meet — it is the moral thing to do, and as a side |
| 20:54.05 | Lunessa | will really help your networking — but do not be under the delusion that everyone is your friend. |
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| 20:59.31 | syrae | I'm under the delusion that everyone is out to get me |
| 20:59.55 | syrae | Especially that psycho, Fisker |
| 21:00.46 | Fisker | hey syrae |
| 21:01.09 | syrae | Fisker: oh hello, Fisker. |
| 21:01.14 | syrae | Fancy meeting you here |
| 21:01.17 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 21:01.33 | Xyphoid | i really like 'At the end of the day, your life happiness will not be dominated by your career. [..] Optimize appropriately.' |
| 21:02.07 | Lunessa | syrae: You work at a company where they probably ARE out to get you. |
| 21:02.20 | syrae | Lunessa: oh, well that was true at HP |
| 21:02.39 | syrae | not at my new workplace. I've been here ~9 months and I've gotten a raise and two promotions |
| 21:02.42 | syrae | :D |
| 21:02.46 | Lunessa | HP is one place I actually decided *not* to work. |
| 21:02.58 | syrae | good choice |
| 21:03.50 | syrae | They tried to fire me for being a bad worker. I <3 working here so much better because they think I'm awesome, and they are also not nearly as mediocre as my co-workers at HP were |
| 21:05.38 | syrae | In unrelated news, Skyrim ate my weekend. :( |
| 21:05.54 | Torhal|work | Did the weekend give it indigestion? |
| 21:06.15 | syrae | Based on the occasional crashing... possibly |
| 21:06.47 | Torhal|work | Ah. |
| 21:06.53 | Lunessa | The graphics for Skyrim drive right into the uncanny valley. |
| 21:07.25 | syrae | in a lot of ways, but not nearly as badly as Oblivion was for me |
| 21:07.56 | syrae | I played Oblivion, Fallout 3, Morrowind, and this is the first Besthesda game that I actually got into. |
| 21:08.37 | syrae | The graphics got far enough up out of the valley to not bother me like the Oblivion models did |
| 21:09.08 | syrae | The buggy clipping and physics is what usually breaks me out of it moreso than the models |
| 21:09.59 | syrae | And the Youtube videos of bugs are AMAZING |
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| 21:24.07 | Lunessa | The hair on the mammoths in the videos I've seen look like bad claymation. Hard to get excited about giving them $60 |
| 21:31.00 | syrae | ah |
| 21:31.14 | syrae | I am a sneaky archer. I PEW PEW things from WAY FAR AWAY |
| 21:31.30 | syrae | I am a rogue hunter! |
| 21:31.36 | Lunessa | This does not surprise me. |
| 21:31.51 | syrae | I had a dog... until it kept jumping in front of my arrows. :( |
| 21:32.03 | Lunessa | DOG KILLER! |
| 21:33.09 | Maldivia | syrae: yeah... what's with the moon physics... how do a mob fly 50 yards backward from dying to a lightning bolt?! |
| 21:33.40 | syrae | Lunessa: he cost me 500g! dumb dog! |
| 21:34.15 | syrae | Maldivia: any game with ragdoll physics ends up having insane bugs with the engine. See most modern FPSes |
| 21:34.24 | Lunessa | Poor doggie. Killed by the cruel arrows of his master. |
| 21:34.35 | syrae | Lunessa: FIREY ARROWS OF DOOOOM |
| 21:34.37 | Maldivia | syrae: yeah, but it's always when they die |
| 21:34.46 | Lunessa | Ragdoll physics are what we want from action games. |
| 21:34.48 | syrae | I have noticed that |
| 21:34.48 | Maldivia | syrae: having to chase a corpse to loot it, is annoying :P |
| 21:34.53 | syrae | yes... |
| 21:36.41 | syrae | Maldivia: obviously what we need is Death Grip |
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| 21:40.39 | Maldivia | or companions t hat are smart enough to loot what we want to have looted :P |
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| 21:50.45 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
| 21:51.53 | Mr_Rabies | dark souls has some pretty insane ragdoll bugs |
| 21:52.12 | Mr_Rabies | certain ragdolls will fall through the earth about 50% of the time when enemies are killed |
| 21:52.19 | Mr_Rabies | like the giant sewer rats |
| 21:52.48 | Mr_Rabies | luckily, if you quit the game and reload your save their ragdoll will be on the ground in their spawn point so if you miss a good drop you can grab it that way |
| 21:54.42 | pompy | http://gamerant.com/elder-scrolls-skyrim-graphical-glitch-videos-row-116232/ |
| 21:55.49 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.2.x ToC: 40200 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || SW:TOR Beta Keys! http://bit.ly/tDB2XO |
| 21:56.50 | syrae | huh |
| 21:57.01 | syrae | Glad I'm playing it on PC, then. It looks shiny on PC |
| 21:58.16 | Arrowmaster | i had that issue in the 2nd video, solution is to uninstall the game from the 360 harddrive and play it directly from the disc |
| 22:00.19 | Lunessa | Mmmmm… about to get several days face time with a Xoom. |
| 22:01.11 | Arrowmaster | im seriously considering trying to get a transformer on black friday |
| 22:01.28 | alestane | It's not worth your life, man! |
| 22:02.01 | Dagmar | Hopefully their first patch will fix the "magically disappearing objects" bug |
| 22:02.39 | Dagmar | Mine aren't falling through the floor or anything, but I've noticed the usual "When you pick something up from a bowl, the bowl moves" sort of issue likes to result in the object becoming not-drawn until you nudge it again |
| 22:02.43 | Arrowmaster | first time i started the game, the inn you jump into from the tower wasnt there, everything inside the inn was just floating in the air |
| 22:03.40 | Arrowmaster | i jumped out and went right through the inn that wasnt there and was walking around while the npc was yelling at me to jump into the inn |
| 22:03.44 | Dagmar | It's a safe bet Bethesda will never put an 'Operation'-style mini-game in these things |
| 22:06.26 | foxlit | silly chrome. The default option for the "are you sure you want to update chrome?" dialog that appears from the menu option is "cancel" |
| 22:07.05 | Arrowmaster | i thought the default option was always supposed to be cancel or no for good ux design |
| 22:07.27 | foxlit | Only if you're making the prompt appear unexpectedly |
| 22:08.15 | foxlit | think of the confirmation dialog to delete a file, for example: the default is yes, so you can do delete-enter to confirm. |
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| 22:16.29 | syrae | I think one of my favorite things so far is the fact that I got into a drinking contest, and then ended up halfway across Skyrim when I woke up... in a temple with a VERY pissed off priestess who told me I was rambling about a goat and marriage when I was still drunk |
| 22:16.43 | syrae | And I have a quest now to figure out wtf I did |
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| 22:26.56 | Lunessa | syrae: http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/11/14 |
| 22:27.52 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:29.05 | kd3 | syrae; lmao |
| 22:30.48 | syrae | Lunessa: yeah... after two dungeons, I got over that. I now pick up things that meet a certain weight to sell value ratio. :P |
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| 22:48.08 | Dagmar | syrae: Good call, but allow me to suggest you select heavily for cheap-assed iron daggers. |
| 22:49.15 | Dagmar | syrae: Once enchanted with something as simple as Turn Undead they value at 400-600 (with just a petty soul gem!) which means they'll sell for more than any heavy armor or other fancy dropped weapon |
| 22:49.18 | syrae | Fun fact: Torture Kits sell better than you'd expect! |
| 22:49.31 | Dagmar | Torture kits? I've not seen thos |
| 22:49.36 | Dagmar | Is that an evil player thing> |
| 22:49.43 | syrae | Dagmar: oh, excellent advice. I'll keep that in mind :D |
| 22:49.55 | syrae | Dagmar: I found one in a Silver Hand dungeon. |
| 22:49.59 | Dagmar | I got the first 5,000g house in under a half hour once I clued in to that |
| 22:50.19 | Dagmar | Now I take *everyone's* dagger |
| 22:50.30 | Dagmar | I've even made a few daggers |
| 22:50.45 | syrae | I have the house + all upgrades, 3 horses, and one dead dog to show for it. My smithing is also up to 70 after buying raw mats off the vendors and crafting them into things |
| 22:51.00 | syrae | Also, stolen raw materials become sellable when crafted. :D |
| 22:51.17 | Arrowmaster | im still not sure what i want to do with smithing, im using light armor now but dadric weapons are the best you can craft |
| 22:51.21 | Dagmar | I gotta get my smithing up just so I can enhance my light armor better (f**k wearing robes) |
| 22:51.43 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Bound weapons, while not directly enchantable without exploiting, count as daedric. |
| 22:51.49 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: isnt there a perk that enchances the defensive spells if you arent wearing armor? |
| 22:51.54 | Dagmar | As an added perk, the bound bow comes with free daedric arrows |
| 22:52.02 | syrae | Arrowmaster: I'm going up the light armor side of things. Everything I have is enhanced to Flawless condition atm |
| 22:52.41 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah, but it still means running around in a bathrobe and trying to hasily cast Stoneskin and then figure out how to get more mana back |
| 22:53.08 | syrae | I'm basically playing the game without reading any guides or knowing what I'm doing at all. It took me FOREVER to figure out how to mine and smelt things. :P |
| 22:53.11 | Dagmar | I got a wee bit tired of feeding the wildlife |
| 22:53.45 | Dagmar | Hmm... I didn't have a problem with mining/smelting, but I did walk past a tanning rack about a dozen times before I realized what I was looking at |
| 22:53.51 | Dagmar | I had a *ton* of hides at that point |
| 22:54.14 | Arrowmaster | you realize theres a quest in the first town that explains smithing to you, including the tanning rack part |
| 22:54.25 | Dagmar | Leather tends to be heavier than the furs/skins, so I'm rather glad that tanning rack is really close to Breezehome |
| 22:54.40 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah, and I finally did that woman's jobs *after* I'd gotten the house |
| 22:54.48 | Dagmar | Oh and there are no 1-8 hotkeys in the PC version |
| 22:55.00 | Cide | yes there are |
| 22:55.07 | Cide | you can hotkey stuff from the favorites menu |
| 22:55.07 | Dagmar | How the hell do you bind them> |
| 22:55.12 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 22:55.14 | Cide | it's still really awkward |
| 22:55.19 | Cide | but better than nothing |
| 22:55.23 | pompy | console only gets 2! |
| 22:55.34 | Dagmar | Argh... Yeah that's really non-intuitive that you have to put them in the favorites list and *then* bind them to a hotkey |
| 22:55.34 | Arrowmaster | same issue on the console version, you have to favorite it first then hotkey it from the favorites menu i bet |
| 22:55.35 | Cide | the hotkey just puts the stuff in your hand |
| 22:55.59 | Dagmar | Hey as often as I switch between spells and shield/weapon I need that |
| 22:56.18 | pompy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:56.21 | Dagmar | Also, bound weapons can kinda suck that way. Mis-click on a "real" weapon and you just burned a lot of mana |
| 22:56.54 | Dagmar | I'm gonna go pay a visit to that damn Khajit mage tonight and explain why I don't like his spell |
| 22:57.13 | Dagmar | Flaming undead == good. *Exploding* undead == BAD |
| 22:58.32 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Seeing as how you seem to have negotiable ideas about personal property, if you meet a guy named Sam who wants to engage in a drinking contest with you, drink his ass down |
| 22:58.45 | Dagmar | The dwemer museum will probably make you very happy, indeed |
| 22:59.56 | Arrowmaster | i think im going to eventually want this bow but the problem is figuring out what level i need to be before getting it http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveled_Items#Nightingale_Bow |
| 23:02.06 | Arrowmaster | theres too much of a difference between glass and daedric weapons though imho since most people will only go up one side of the smithing path |
| 23:03.21 | A-KO | I have no interest in weapons |
| 23:03.24 | A-KO | jus give me spells |
| 23:03.26 | A-KO | dual wield spells! |
| 23:03.27 | A-KO | :P |
| 23:05.40 | pompy | Arrowmaster: you gonna grab Assassin's Creed: Lineage as well? It's cheaper on Amazon http://www.gamestop.com/blu-ray-disc/movies-tv/assassins-creed-lineage-blu-ray/92932 http://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Creed-Lineage-Yves-Simoneau/dp/B005ELVCKC |
| 23:06.01 | Arrowmaster | is that the movie that came out a year or two ago? |
| 23:06.20 | Arrowmaster | if so i think i have a dvd rip of it but havent watched it yet |
| 23:06.55 | Dagmar | A-KO: Ther'es definitely something deliciously contemptuous about double-handing Flames. :) |
| 23:07.23 | Arrowmaster | hmm i may have to find that bound bow spell |
| 23:07.25 | Arrowmaster | http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ammunition |
| 23:07.58 | Arrowmaster | big damage difference between glass and daedric so late game either i better find a source of daedric arrows or it will probably be better to use the bound one |
| 23:08.24 | pompy | "ASSASSIN’S CREED: LINEAGE is the first chapter of Ezio Auditore’s story and the prequel movie to Assassin’s Creed II, Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood, and Assassin’s Creed: Revelations video games. ASSASSIN’S CREED: LINEAGE reveals the machinations of 15th-century Italy through the actions of Ezio's father, Giovanni. " |
| 23:09.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think i have it |
| 23:09.36 | A-KO | lol Dagmar |
| 23:09.39 | A-KO | just a little |
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| 23:54.40 | Dagmar | n |
| 23:54.47 | Arrowmaster | now this is teamwork http://kotaku.com/5859290/battlefield-3s-fabulous-flying-snipers |
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