| 00:00.52 | Thunder_Child | ~poo |
| 00:00.52 | purl | poo is smelly |
| 00:01.07 | Thunder_Child | ~oracle |
| 00:01.07 | purl | Real man uses Oracle. Real men who like bondage and discipline. |
| 00:15.02 | cog|away | bah |
| 00:16.49 | cogwheel | stupid mouse pads |
| 00:17.10 | cogwheel | one has high static friction with my mouse, the other has high dynamic friction. wtb happy medium |
| 00:18.25 | cogwheel | actually wtb optimal in both |
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| 00:43.28 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: steelserise |
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| 00:43.34 | Thunder_Child | steelseries* |
| 00:43.42 | Thunder_Child | best i have used |
| 00:44.29 | Thunder_Child | sadly it has been worn down in the years i have used it, but when i first got it my mouse slid across it like ice |
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| 01:00.46 | Arrowmaster | im still using my thinkgeek branded original ratpadz |
| 01:00.58 | Arrowmaster | the thinkgeek branding has half worn off though |
| 01:01.43 | Arrowmaster | one of the best pads ever created imho |
| 01:11.39 | ScytheBl1de1 | cogwheel: .... accepted! -.- |
| 01:12.33 | cogwheel | ScytheBl1de1: ? |
| 01:12.44 | ScytheBl1de1 | cogwheel: your linkedin invite from FOREVER ago |
| 01:12.48 | cogwheel | lawl |
| 01:13.16 | Thunder_Child | Bl1de? |
| 01:13.21 | ScytheBl1de1 | bah |
| 01:13.23 | ScytheBl1de1 | stupid irssi |
| 01:13.27 | Thunder_Child | A's != 1's |
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| 01:13.45 | cogwheel | the way europeans write them, almost... |
| 01:13.54 | cogwheel | some* |
| 01:15.53 | ScytheBlade1 | so is it cool to just spam people with this? |
| 01:16.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I see a stupid number of people I know on here -.- |
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| 01:22.55 | ScytheBlade1 | social networks are weird :/ |
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| 01:55.00 | Kraps | "Get a free Xbox 360 4GB console with the purchase of a Windows 7 PC $699 or more, at participating retailers in the US from 5/23 until 9/23 or while supplies last. Verification of student status required." |
| 01:57.43 | Kraps | http://techcrunch.com/2011/09/14/over-1-billion-people-use-social-networks-today-and-other-stats |
| 01:59.21 | bluspacecow | kk off to visit with the sister for a day or so |
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| 03:21.30 | airtonix | hey |
| 03:21.38 | airtonix | so cogwheel |
| 03:21.41 | airtonix | 1.8? |
| 03:21.55 | airtonix | i like it alot |
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| 04:10.49 | cogwheel | airtonix: ditto |
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| 04:18.10 | Stanzilla | it lags for me :( |
| 04:18.48 | Shirik | how the fuck |
| 04:18.52 | Shirik | can minecraft lag |
| 04:18.59 | Shirik | like it was written for computers that ran Win 3.1 |
| 04:19.04 | kd3 | too many chunk updates? |
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| 04:19.21 | kd3 | also, notch isn't exactly known for efficient code |
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| 04:22.21 | karl_w_w | whereas most people who code for java are |
| 04:26.10 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: are there no current maps of the server? |
| 04:26.43 | cogwheel | no. i'm lazy. that's a weekend project unless Iriel gets impatient ;) |
| 04:26.47 | Shirik | karl_w_w: Java is natively efficient |
| 04:26.50 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 04:26.52 | Shirik | you don't need to know how to code efficient java |
| 04:27.01 | Shirik | optimizing java will usually get you the same results |
| 04:27.19 | Stanzilla | Shirik: it looks like it runs out of ram or so |
| 04:27.20 | Stanzilla | dunno |
| 04:27.46 | Shirik | Stanzilla: That was a joke. Java's memory management is also a joke. |
| 04:27.52 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 04:27.58 | Arrowmaster | i tried it for the first time in a while and the input kept getting stuck |
| 04:28.21 | Arrowmaster | i would keep moving in a direction till i hit the key for that direction again |
| 04:29.22 | kd3 | update your lwjgl |
| 04:29.34 | Shirik | that's the new lapis auto-detection feature |
| 04:29.45 | Iriel | Ditto |
| 04:30.11 | Iriel | (to the weekend project) |
| 04:30.51 | Arrowmaster | ive not run minecraft in a while so i had to download minecraft.jar again to even run it |
| 04:37.44 | Thunder_Child | same |
| 04:37.50 | Thunder_Child | said my account info was no goof |
| 04:37.51 | Thunder_Child | good* |
| 04:44.37 | Thunder_Child | is there some notes on the new stuff? |
| 04:47.41 | Iriel | TAB for player list (you may have to bind it, use a different key on the mac) |
| 04:48.05 | Iriel | You need to eat (food to right of health).. no food == health drops to 50%, food >= 90% health regens |
| 04:48.10 | Iriel | XP does nothing |
| 04:48.20 | Iriel | You have to hold RMB to eat, instead of just clicking once |
| 04:48.22 | Iriel | that's about it |
| 04:48.31 | Thunder_Child | ok, just wanted to make sure you dont die if you have no food |
| 04:48.33 | Thunder_Child | thanks |
| 04:48.34 | Iriel | Actually no.. double tab forward to run |
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| 04:48.40 | Iriel | You dont, I ran out yesterday |
| 04:51.08 | Wobin | Iriel: the online player list is native? |
| 04:51.16 | Iriel | Yes |
| 04:51.20 | Wobin | awesome |
| 04:51.37 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 04:51.48 | Iriel | Means I dont have to keep patching our jar to enable /list for all |
| 04:51.55 | Wobin | I think you lose health with empty hunger on the max difficulty setting |
| 04:52.07 | Iriel | You lose health down to 50% on this server |
| 05:02.04 | Dagmar | You starve on any normal setting. |
| 05:02.38 | Zhinjio | ok, I'm going to open this up to you smart people here, because I'm stumped. |
| 05:03.13 | Zhinjio | up front warning: this has nothing to do with wow. or uidev. but y'all are smart, so... yeah |
| 05:03.26 | Zhinjio | go to http://minecraft.trippy.org/ |
| 05:03.29 | Zhinjio | and explain why that page renders as source |
| 05:03.50 | Xyphoid | view source and have a look |
| 05:03.52 | Xyphoid | it's all entities |
| 05:03.53 | Zhinjio | I *assure* you that the index.html file does NOT contain a <code> block |
| 05:03.53 | Cide | open the actual source |
| 05:03.56 | Zhinjio | I did. |
| 05:03.59 | Zhinjio | and I have. |
| 05:04.01 | Cide | what web server |
| 05:04.02 | Xyphoid | <html> |
| 05:04.03 | Zhinjio | apache |
| 05:04.19 | Dagmar | Congratulations! You've misconfigured your first Apache server. |
| 05:04.39 | Zhinjio | *sighs* |
| 05:05.09 | Zhinjio | dude, please. |
| 05:05.27 | Cide | pleased |
| 05:05.33 | Dagmar | Well, it's either that or you actually have <html> in there. Hint hint. |
| 05:05.52 | Cide | doesn't have to be misconfigured |
| 05:06.00 | Dagmar | No he actually *does* have that in there. |
| 05:06.07 | Zhinjio | I just recreated the index.html file from scratch |
| 05:06.13 | Zhinjio | and I assure you, none of the entity crap is there. |
| 05:06.18 | Zhinjio | its being munched somehow |
| 05:06.19 | Cide | in what editor? |
| 05:06.35 | Dagmar | The very first line of output is <code><span style="color: #000000"> |
| 05:06.36 | Zhinjio | vi, notepad++ and just raw echoing into a file |
| 05:06.40 | Cide | rename .html to .php |
| 05:06.58 | Cide | I win |
| 05:07.14 | Zhinjio | you do win. |
| 05:07.36 | Zhinjio | hmm |
| 05:07.48 | Cide | (php's view source thing is probably on) |
| 05:07.54 | Cide | but it's usually limited to .phps files |
| 05:07.59 | Cide | or whatever it's called |
| 05:09.44 | Zhinjio | thank you. |
| 05:09.51 | Zhinjio | I'm not sure when that changed. |
| 05:10.04 | Zhinjio | this server's been up for many many years, and I never noticed that |
| 05:10.11 | Zhinjio | hard to imagine. |
| 05:10.24 | Cide | weird indeed |
| 05:10.48 | Zhinjio | now the map shows up;. yay. |
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| 07:48.05 | Maldivia | ... and the day to avoid all radio and TV has arrived |
| 07:48.53 | haste | oh? |
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| 07:49.06 | Maldivia | election day here today |
| 07:49.35 | haste | oh, then you'd better avoid it the next two days as well |
| 07:49.36 | zenzio | Maldivia: what kind of election? |
| 07:49.50 | Maldivia | zenzio: for the Danish government |
| 07:49.57 | zenzio | we had local elections this Monday, was a mess |
| 07:50.25 | Maldivia | the last two weeks has been a big election frenzy |
| 07:51.31 | Maldivia | and I'm just so tired of listening to politicians throwing dirt at eachother and uttering empty promises |
| 07:52.33 | zenzio | it's always the same, isn't it |
| 07:54.11 | Maldivia | more or less |
| 07:57.56 | Elkano | elections mid-week? we're doing them on sundays... :/ |
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| 08:01.45 | Maldivia | local elections are always on tuesdays in Denmark, and elections for government is most often on a tuesday aswell |
| 08:02.38 | Maldivia | (or more precisely, local elections are always on the 3rd Tuesday in November every 4th year) |
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| 09:34.55 | airtonix | Zhinjio: vi sucks |
| 09:35.04 | airtonix | Jamash: agree with me |
| 09:35.10 | airtonix | you too Kalroth |
| 09:35.14 | airtonix | i demand it |
| 09:35.20 | Thunder_Child | i like vi |
| 09:35.24 | airtonix | you suck |
| 09:35.47 | airtonix | hey Thunder_Child, i notice i asked only for compliance |
| 09:36.13 | Thunder_Child | you didnty ask me |
| 09:36.18 | Thunder_Child | did not* |
| 09:36.19 | airtonix | exackery |
| 09:36.29 | Kalroth | vi is indeed a lesser text editor |
| 09:36.47 | Thunder_Child | vi is for victory! |
| 09:37.05 | airtonix | deploys a black bag grab team to Thunder_Childs location |
| 09:37.27 | Thunder_Child | sounds like fun |
| 09:38.32 | airtonix | ok back to Getting Work Done By Not using Vi(tm) |
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| 09:39.21 | Thunder_Child | so no text editing then hmm? |
| 09:39.31 | Thunder_Child | good thing you dont need it for work |
| 09:39.36 | Kalroth | nano is the best |
| 09:43.43 | Thunder_Child | only people with brains that size like it |
| 09:45.30 | airtonix | sorry i'm busy Getting Work Done With TextEditors That Aren't Vi (tm) |
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| 09:46.12 | airtonix | and Thunder_Child, the only reason your brain has more mass is because of the tumours |
| 09:46.36 | airtonix | protip, you're not supposed to count the tumours when quoting your brain mass |
| 09:46.58 | Thunder_Child | thats ok, i do it by density |
| 09:47.24 | airtonix | oh ok, dense as in hardened brain tumours? |
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| 10:33.34 | karl_w_w | lol people complaining about frost mage burst |
| 10:33.43 | karl_w_w | must be trolling |
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| 11:01.21 | Phelps | idk karl_w_w |
| 11:01.28 | Phelps | on my DK with 4k resil |
| 11:01.34 | Phelps | i've gotten hit pretty hard |
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| 11:15.04 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 11:15.08 | Fisker | my head |
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| 11:33.22 | starlon | chortles. |
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| 11:35.37 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 11:35.51 | Fisker | you should login to account management |
| 11:35.56 | Fisker | and then see if the D3 boxart changed |
| 11:35.56 | Fisker | :o |
| 11:45.41 | airtonix | Fisker: chilling tale brethren |
| 11:46.00 | Fisker | lol'd@Sony btw |
| 11:46.12 | Fisker | i love their security through EULA |
| 11:46.21 | Fisker | "Hey if we mess up, then you can't sue us lol" |
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| 11:57.01 | Shirik | Fisker: If you read this, you can't sue me for anything, ever. |
| 12:00.48 | airtonix | ditto |
| 12:02.51 | karl_w_w | airtonix give me my phrase back |
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| 12:15.00 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:19.27 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning to you too! |
| 12:21.01 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:21.49 | Phelps | throws the trout back into the river. |
| 12:22.02 | starlon | gives Fisker a new trout. |
| 12:22.16 | Lopeppeppy | But... that was my breakfast trout! |
| 12:22.21 | Fisker | not sure if Lopeppeppy appreciates you taking her breakfast Phelps |
| 12:22.29 | starlon | lol |
| 12:22.30 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:22.48 | Fisker | i'm not |
| 12:24.18 | Phelps | im mad |
| 12:24.26 | Phelps | soooo mad |
| 12:24.39 | Kalroth | wemad? |
| 12:24.40 | Phelps | im just gonna write a test case, caus I cant find this fkin bug |
| 12:25.15 | Phelps | i hate it when stuff mostly works, and fails with no error |
| 12:25.55 | Lopeppeppy | Full moon bug! |
| 12:26.09 | Phelps | yup |
| 12:26.38 | Lopeppeppy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenbug ! |
| 12:35.00 | Fisker | GOOGLE CHROME |
| 12:35.04 | Fisker | Y U CRASH? |
| 12:37.38 | Lopeppeppy | lack of trout |
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| 13:12.56 | starlon | fucking curseforge |
| 13:15.13 | foxlit | well, since it's election day, here's an unrelated question: |
| 13:15.43 | foxlit | why do people expect property (housing) to appreciate in price, as opposed to virtually any other commodity? |
| 13:16.12 | Dagmar | Because of bubbles |
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| 13:16.24 | alestane | It's not quite strictly a commodity, either. |
| 13:16.38 | Dagmar | ...and because they were dumb enough to sign off on a mortgage with an absolutely insane amount of interest attached to it. |
| 13:16.47 | karl_w_w | foxlit, as opposed to? |
| 13:17.00 | foxlit | karl_w_w: cars. |
| 13:17.03 | karl_w_w | people expect everything to go up in price |
| 13:17.27 | foxlit | consumer electronics. |
| 13:17.28 | karl_w_w | unless you mean value |
| 13:17.59 | karl_w_w | consumer electronics get cheaper? :P |
| 13:18.18 | foxlit | yes they do. In the sense that you can buy yesteryear's stuff for peanuts. |
| 13:18.32 | karl_w_w | that's not them getting cheaper that's them getting better |
| 13:18.43 | karl_w_w | you can always buy yesteryear's stuff for peanuts |
| 13:19.13 | foxlit | yesteryear's housing would probably cost you more today than it cost other people then. |
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| 13:20.23 | karl_w_w | that's because housing technology has largely stayed the same for a century :P |
| 13:21.04 | foxlit | hm, so you're pointing out a lack of technological progress. |
| 13:21.12 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 13:21.45 | karl_w_w | because houses haven't changed much, there's no reason for the old stuff to be cheaper |
| 13:22.26 | foxlit | I'm not sure I would agree with that premise. |
| 13:23.23 | foxlit | material science, isolation, interior design, etc have all advanced at a reasonable pace; you can probably tell the difference between something built recently and 20 years ago. |
| 13:23.59 | karl_w_w | a house serves a fundamental need that is more important than those factors though |
| 13:25.16 | Grum | foxlit: one has 20 years of dust on it. the other less? |
| 13:25.49 | foxlit | Regardless, houses have a finite lifetime. I'd expect their value to depreciate over time simply because of that. |
| 13:26.51 | foxlit | Dagmar's point is perhaps more interesting: people seldom have the $X to buy a house outright, so their investment is actually $X+compound interest. Rinse, repeat. |
| 13:28.24 | alestane | Reselling a house, you have more expense to try and recoup than just your current debt. |
| 13:30.02 | foxlit | hm? |
| 13:30.54 | karl_w_w | housing is a unique case, you can't compare it to anything else |
| 13:31.11 | foxlit | that's nice. |
| 13:31.15 | karl_w_w | other than just land |
| 13:31.47 | karl_w_w | eg. I've never bought a car or a toaster based on it's location |
| 13:33.14 | foxlit | That, I believe, leads to an argument of increased contention for the same resource. |
| 13:33.33 | foxlit | But I'm not sure whether that's justifiable in locations with a stable or declining population. |
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| 14:14.12 | foxlit | hm, curseforge has themes |
| 14:14.19 | foxlit | but it seems to be hiding them :( |
| 14:14.57 | nevcairiel | yeah the option isnt really all that exposed |
| 14:15.21 | nevcairiel | I think you actually need to know the url. :D |
| 14:15.31 | nevcairiel | which is http://wow.curseforge.com/themes/ |
| 14:21.25 | foxlit | thanks :) |
| 14:22.05 | Stanzilla | I wonder if my theme still works :o |
| 14:22.20 | foxlit | I was hunting for something white-on-black that didn't put borders around unordered lists in comments |
| 14:22.47 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.02 | Dagmar | Why's it always gotta be white on *black*, huh? |
| 14:23.17 | foxlit | because white on white is illegible. |
| 14:23.21 | nevcairiel | because black on white burns too much |
| 14:23.30 | Dagmar | *whoa* |
| 14:23.31 | Dagmar | lol |
| 14:26.26 | foxlit | and wowace's black-on-parchment-on-ice scheme is visually distracting. |
| 14:26.44 | nevcairiel | i always hated the textured background |
| 14:27.07 | nevcairiel | my theme is also hacked up to hide some elements that are just annoying |
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| 14:28.26 | Dagmar | Like the trade channel. |
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| 15:03.32 | Dagmar | It's cool that Curses' wiki sites are now using hidden embedded audio ads. |
| 15:03.44 | Dagmar | It's just awesome to hear shit coming out of my speakers for no apparent reason. |
| 15:13.07 | cogwheel | isn't it more like curse's wiki's ad provider? i don't think any of the curse guys are that boneheaded :P |
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| 15:15.33 | Arrowmaster | point the ads out to them and they will blacklist them |
| 15:19.31 | Dagmar | I'm just going to shitlist 2mdn.net for the moment and see if that shuts it up |
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| 15:23.36 | Arrowmaster | anybody messed with google goggles? |
| 15:24.03 | Arrowmaster | it seems to see the L4D2 logo everywhere |
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| 15:34.28 | Shirik | sighs |
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| 15:48.34 | Torhal|work | ? |
| 15:48.52 | durcyn | shrewd advertising move, gaben. |
| 15:53.07 | Fisker | in the city |
| 15:53.41 | foxlit | on motorcycles, Fisker. |
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| 16:00.24 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:00.28 | Maldivia | wagon |
| 16:00.29 | cogwheel | morning |
| 16:00.34 | Fisker | gentlemen |
| 16:03.11 | Fisker | foxlit |
| 16:03.13 | Fisker | i just saw this |
| 16:03.19 | Fisker | Ãvrige stemmer fra forrige valg |
| 16:03.27 | Fisker | then i looked like this |
| 16:03.28 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3lXfjHm8bY&feature=related |
| 16:03.33 | starlon | o.O |
| 16:03.55 | Fisker | For non-danes |
| 16:03.59 | Fisker | we got an election going |
| 16:04.07 | Fisker | and there's this page where you can see the vote tally |
| 16:04.23 | Fisker | and one of the collums are "Votes from previous election" |
| 16:04.25 | Fisker | and i'm like |
| 16:04.25 | Fisker | wat |
| 16:05.10 | foxlit | <3 tier 3. |
| 16:05.26 | foxlit | 1 minute cooldown on evocation >>> your measly stats |
| 16:08.06 | Kalroth | Fisker, link pls |
| 16:08.13 | Fisker | http://www.kmdvalg.dk/FV/2011/ |
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| 16:11.45 | Fisker | get it Kalroth ? |
| 16:12.04 | Kalroth | no |
| 16:12.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:12.59 | Fisker | click on any of the places |
| 16:13.21 | Fisker | and in the list there will be a collumn or row or whatever that's called "Ãvrige stemmer fra forrige valg" |
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| 16:17.29 | Shirik | I think I might be a genius |
| 16:17.37 | Fisker | i agree |
| 16:17.40 | Fisker | you are a genius Shirik |
| 16:18.50 | durcyn | you either die a genius or you live long enough to see yourself become the dunce |
| 16:19.13 | Shirik | I'm ok with dying a genius |
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| 16:20.05 | Lunessa | Live fast and hard, die young and leave a good looking corpse? |
| 16:21.06 | Cide | Shirik: how goes rhyolith btw? |
| 16:21.41 | Shirik | gotta go to work ask me later |
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| 16:35.08 | Fisker | http://twitter.com/#!/KazHiraiSCE/status/114138555810459648 <-buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurn |
| 16:37.24 | foxlit | Fisker: why are they refreshing every 20 seconds when it's not even 20 yet? |
| 16:37.33 | foxlit | are they trying to ddos themselves? |
| 16:37.35 | Fisker | because i F5 anyway! |
| 16:38.02 | Fisker | or they didn't bother making a script that refreshes once at 20:00 and then every 20 seconds? |
| 16:38.14 | Fisker | and it's only every 25 seconds |
| 16:38.14 | Fisker | !1 |
| 16:38.58 | Fisker | i also don't get it |
| 16:39.08 | Fisker | apparently here the budget is for 750k every year |
| 16:39.22 | Fisker | and this election only costs like 1m |
| 16:39.36 | Fisker | still they didn't even bother getting new signs for the election |
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| 16:59.27 | Maldivia | 19.00 exit poll coming up now.. |
| 17:02.21 | Fisker | we already know who won superiorly Maldivia |
| 17:02.39 | Fisker | Liberal Alliance got 90 mandates |
| 17:02.41 | Fisker | LOLOLOLO |
| 17:02.48 | Fisker | damn |
| 17:02.52 | Fisker | i wish they did exit polls here |
| 17:02.56 | Fisker | i would so have said liberal alliance |
| 17:03.02 | Fisker | just to troll the exit polls |
| 17:04.53 | Maldivia | heh |
| 17:05.17 | Maldivia | but yeah, if the exit poll is any indication... what an election for liberal alliance and enhedslisten! |
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| 17:15.04 | Fisker | liberal alliance is actually getting votes? |
| 17:15.05 | Fisker | wat |
| 17:15.17 | Fisker | i smell exit poll trolling |
| 17:17.13 | Fisker | lol |
| 17:17.24 | Fisker | wow |
| 17:17.46 | Fisker | Liberal Alliance is almost tied with the big dogs on facebook!1 |
| 17:18.02 | Fisker | jesus |
| 17:27.47 | Maldivia | I take it you're not a fan of Simon Emil, or Anders Samuelsen? |
| 17:28.12 | Lopeppeppy | Kilroy for President |
| 17:28.25 | Maldivia | ... or Joakim B Olsen for that matter?! |
| 17:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | Interesting spelling of that first name. |
| 17:30.52 | Maldivia | ok, it's actually Joachim |
| 17:33.11 | Lopeppeppy | Much more used to that spelling. :) |
| 17:34.19 | Maldivia | well, I'd say it's about 50-50 here, which spelling is used |
| 17:36.29 | Maldivia | ok, from a quick search, the ratio is 39:61 :P |
| 17:43.23 | Cide | about 99% the former in sweden |
| 17:47.56 | Ackis | Wobin: someone in my guild told me to use Mr Plow and I said the author is a butthead |
| 17:50.36 | durcyn | no one's ever told anyone to use ackis recipe list |
| 17:50.41 | Kraps | wtf http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/funny-facebook-fails-one-rotten-apple.jpg |
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| 17:58.01 | Dagmar | Sony are such great guys. |
| 17:58.20 | Dagmar | The new EULA for the latest firmware update is so nice. |
| 17:58.25 | Arrowmaster | what now? |
| 17:58.40 | Dagmar | If you accept the EULA you give up rights to be a part of a class-action suit against them. |
| 17:58.56 | Arrowmaster | cool so i can sue them? |
| 17:59.01 | Dagmar | Hell, that, to me, sounds like grounds for *forming* a class-action suit against them. |
| 17:59.04 | Arrowmaster | i still havent accepted the firmware that killed otheros |
| 17:59.21 | Arrowmaster | i want a $400 refund |
| 17:59.21 | Dagmar | I haven't really touched the box since the compromise debacle. |
| 17:59.32 | Arrowmaster | that or maybe a free slim |
| 17:59.37 | haste | move to norway Arrowmaster ! |
| 18:00.13 | Arrowmaster | although even a free slim wouldnt be good enough because if i keep my old ps3 so i can install linux on it then i wont be able to play ps2 games on it |
| 18:00.27 | Arrowmaster | and their 'it only does everything' console doesnt play ps2 games anymore |
| 18:00.39 | Dagmar | I got mine when I did because of that. |
| 18:00.49 | haste | I think PS3 is the only console that looses features as it gets updates |
| 18:00.52 | Arrowmaster | i got the MGS4 bundle one |
| 18:01.00 | Dagmar | Yeah that's kinda crap of them |
| 18:01.16 | Arrowmaster | its not the original one with hardware emulation but its still got software emulation |
| 18:01.56 | Arrowmaster | the hardware emulation one is funny because you can use the same discs from the ps2 to play pirated games on it |
| 18:02.20 | durcyn | shadow of the colossus is being ported, ps2 compatibility can die gracefully after that. |
| 18:02.47 | Arrowmaster | MGS and silent hill ports coming to xbox |
| 18:03.46 | Arrowmaster | although the MGS one is weird, japan gets MGS1 and US gets peace walker or something |
| 18:04.40 | Arrowmaster | though rumor is that MGS1 is going to come out in US as a XBLA game |
| 18:05.55 | Fisker | haha foxlit |
| 18:06.00 | Fisker | they changed their refresh to 60 seconds now |
| 18:06.04 | Fisker | selfddos fail |
| 18:06.59 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2011/09/six-flags-saves-dog-left-in-car-then-loses-dog.html |
| 18:07.57 | haste | =/ |
| 18:08.34 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:08.37 | Fisker | democracy |
| 18:08.39 | Fisker | ujelly? |
| 18:08.47 | haste | welcome to last week Fisker |
| 18:09.28 | Fisker | no haste |
| 18:11.30 | Kalroth | Fisker, the good ones won! |
| 18:11.39 | Fisker | of course |
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| 18:35.32 | Fisker | i don't get the front page of the yargh bay haste |
| 18:37.15 | haste | they're 8 years today aren' they? |
| 18:42.32 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 18:44.32 | Fisker | haste i was thinking about the pia kjærsgaard reference |
| 18:46.11 | Fisker | oh nice |
| 18:48.26 | Fisker | kd3 isn't even a pong |
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| 18:57.25 | Adys | lol arstech |
| 18:57.30 | Adys | Announcing increased moderation of trolls in discussion threads |
| 18:57.33 | Adys | [...] |
| 18:57.35 | Adys | Click here to view the 231 comments on this story |
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| 19:05.39 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: the are has not changed |
| 19:05.47 | Fisker | yarrgh? |
| 19:06.20 | Thunder_Child | sorry, i dont speak Fisker shorthand |
| 19:06.31 | Fisker | and i don't speak Thunder_Child |
| 19:06.34 | Fisker | do you speak english? |
| 19:10.17 | Lunessa | The comments on this story are hilarious: http://consumerist.com/2011/09/why-does-proflowers-think-im-cheating-on-my-wife.html |
| 19:18.20 | Fisker | maybe she uses gmail :D |
| 19:18.25 | Fisker | i have the same derp derp issue |
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| 19:18.42 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:20.10 | foxlit | Fisker: I think this prediction model is designed for maximum trolling. |
| 19:21.12 | Fisker | liberal alliance is still gaining speed? |
| 19:21.42 | foxlit | dunno; awesome interview with Kristian, though. |
| 19:22.18 | foxlit | "Hey, a few minutes ago you were preparing to give your "we've lost" speech. Now it seems you're leading, how does that feel?" ... "Oh, nevermind, you're losing again." |
| 19:23.17 | Maldivia | foxlit: hehe, yeah |
| 19:24.03 | Maldivia | foxlit: but don't forget the northatlantic, they seem to be 3 to red, 1 to blue |
| 19:24.45 | Maldivia | although I would prefer the result to stand without those |
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| 20:07.47 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.50 | Ackis | shit |
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| 20:08.29 | ex0a | lol |
| 20:10.01 | Torhal|work | Ackis: I'd say yes, but you'll likely rage quit in the middle. |
| 20:10.31 | Ackis | you just want me to leave this channel :( |
| 20:11.02 | Torhal|work | lolwut? |
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| 20:24.09 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 20:24.38 | Ackis | hi |
| 20:24.57 | Fisker | i'm awesome |
| 20:29.52 | foxlit | "spoiler: rocks fall and everyone dies" |
| 20:30.16 | starlon | dodges the rocks. |
| 20:30.27 | starlon | gets pelted by pellets. |
| 20:35.19 | foxlit | http://erlarsloekkestadigstatsminister.dk/ << mildly amused |
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| 20:37.38 | Maldivia | foxlit: well, he'll continue to be until the election has finished and he tell the Queen about the results :P |
| 20:39.52 | foxlit | mhm, it's just that there are domains for the simplest things :) |
| 20:41.44 | Lunessa | Maybe old news to some of you, but Sony added a Binding Arbitration Clause to the PSN Terms of Service. - http://games.slashdot.org/story/11/09/15/1542247/New-Sony-PSN-ToS-Class-Action-Waiver-Included |
| 20:41.55 | Dagmar | Yeah. |
| 20:41.58 | Dagmar | Fuck that. |
| 20:42.03 | Dagmar | I'm not even sure that's entirely legal. |
| 20:42.22 | Dagmar | ...because basically, every new goddamn game means you *MUST* take a firmware update |
| 20:42.39 | Lunessa | So - I won't every be getting a PS3 or other Sony Game. |
| 20:42.40 | Dagmar | ...and that basically means you can't play shit you just bought because of this nasty little agreement which was not in place when you bought the unit. |
| 20:43.35 | Maldivia | Dagmar: legal: sure, enforceable: nope |
| 20:44.37 | Fisker | oh yeah foxlit |
| 20:44.44 | Fisker | auto-refresh + epic sax guy in the backround |
| 20:44.46 | Fisker | background |
| 20:44.54 | Torhal|work | I think that would classify as extortion because of the "Didn't exist when you bought the unit" clause. |
| 20:44.59 | Lunessa | Apparently it is legal, but IANAL. Federal Arbitration Act.. looking up now. |
| 20:45.15 | Torhal|work | You wanna play your games? Waive your rights. |
| 20:45.17 | Torhal|work | Hah |
| 20:45.24 | Fisker | old Lunessa btw |
| 20:45.41 | Maldivia | Lunessa: it is lega, and some courts have upheld class action waivers |
| 20:45.51 | Fisker | pukes in disgust |
| 20:46.01 | Fisker | so it looks like security through EULA works |
| 20:46.03 | Torhal|work | sues Fisker |
| 20:46.04 | Fisker | "security" |
| 20:46.18 | Lunessa | Maldivia: Apparently upheld at the SCOTUS. |
| 20:46.29 | Lunessa | If wikipedia can be trusted. |
| 20:48.10 | Fisker | btw Maldivia |
| 20:48.26 | Dagmar | I think in this case since they're throwing the arbitration thing in *after* the purchase is made, that would make it illegal |
| 20:48.29 | Lunessa | I suspect something similar is in Blizzard's Terms. |
| 20:48.30 | Fisker | Lars Løkke kan just go "Well we like totally won, like 179 mandates" |
| 20:48.49 | Fisker | don't think so Lunessa |
| 20:49.33 | Maldivia | Fisker: sure.... |
| 20:49.48 | Fisker | she's kind of a dope Maldivia |
| 20:50.03 | Maldivia | Fisker: if he wanted to win, he should just have promised a D3 beta key for any vote to him? |
| 20:50.07 | Fisker | did you hear about that russian visit where she got tricked by someone totally unknowingly to her acted to be her? |
| 20:50.32 | Fisker | i wouldn't vote for Lars Løkke even if i would get a D3 beta key |
| 20:50.33 | Fisker | ! |
| 20:50.39 | Maldivia | good |
| 20:51.24 | Maldivia | I'm still surprised enhedslisten is getting 12 seats... |
| 20:51.33 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:51.49 | Fisker | i'm actually happy we got people like those |
| 20:51.54 | Fisker | i just don't think they should have too much power |
| 20:52.00 | Lunessa | The WoW EULA says either party may elect to use binding arbitration. |
| 20:52.08 | Fisker | but atleast they should be there to troll |
| 20:52.26 | Fisker | so what i can say they can't sue me Lunessa ? |
| 20:52.29 | Fisker | that would be awesome |
| 20:52.36 | Fisker | Blizzard vs. MDY |
| 20:52.37 | starlon | sues Fisker. |
| 20:52.38 | Fisker | Solved! |
| 20:52.59 | starlon | Yo infringed on mah interwebz. |
| 20:53.43 | Lunessa | "The determination of whether a Dispute is subject to arbitration shall be governed by the Federal Arbitration Act and determined by a court rather than an arbitrator. " So a court gets to decide if you have to use arbitration or not. Blizzard's position is much, much, much softer than Sony's new stance. |
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| 20:54.10 | Fisker | lulz Maldivia |
| 20:54.24 | Maldivia | ? |
| 20:54.29 | Fisker | people on nationen! are whining over various taxes and fees coming in en masse |
| 20:54.56 | Maldivia | p...lease.... |
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| 20:55.06 | Fisker | maybe Venstre stopped the taxes from increasing but if there was a guiness book of wolrd records for implementing various taxes and fees they would've won epically |
| 20:55.41 | Maldivia | oh yeah |
| 20:55.46 | Lunessa | Dagmar: They're transferring all the assets to a new LLC - so a dodge to get out from under future class actions. I guess they |
| 20:55.54 | Lunessa | they are still feeling the burn. |
| 20:57.28 | foxlit | "This change will not be reflected on the PTR, but we wanted to ensure that you were aware of the new changes before the StarCraft II Patch 1.4 is live." |
| 20:57.54 | foxlit | There's no whining like "I can't mass infestors [not that I ever could, but someone else could, and so that's why I'm losing from now on!]" whining |
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| 21:14.56 | Fisker | wow Maldivia |
| 21:15.02 | Fisker | it must suck to have gotten 0 votes |
| 21:15.18 | Fisker | it's like did he/she forget to vote or did he think his/hers politics were shit? |
| 21:16.07 | Fisker | oh |
| 21:16.14 | Fisker | he's listed other places as well |
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| 21:19.21 | Maldivia | Fisker: Per Ørum ? |
| 21:19.31 | Fisker | Janus something i think |
| 21:19.54 | Maldivia | where did you see/read that? |
| 21:20.26 | Fisker | http://www.kmdvalg.dk/FV/2011/F811.htm |
| 21:20.28 | Fisker | but as i said |
| 21:20.39 | Fisker | found out later that he was listed more than one place |
| 21:20.50 | Maldivia | was listening to Johanne talking about Enhedslistens victory :P |
| 21:21.54 | Maldivia | must say, Enhedslisten made the right choice putting her in front |
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| 21:24.07 | Fisker | she is pretty hot yeah |
| 21:24.30 | Fisker | when all the men was glancing at the list |
| 21:24.32 | Fisker | "Oh i'd do her" |
| 21:24.44 | Fisker | [X] |
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| 21:39.09 | foxlit | "An infinite number of mathematicians walk into a bar. The first one says, "I'll have a beer please." and the second one says, "I'll have half of what he's having." The third one says, "I'll have a fourth of a beer." The fourth one says, "I'll have an eighth of a beer." The bartender says, "Oh, screw you all" and pulls out two beers." |
| 21:40.35 | Fisker | oh god foxlit |
| 21:43.11 | Ackis | ~foxlit++ |
| 21:48.00 | Lunessa | An infinite number of mathematicians - must be some bar. |
| 21:49.10 | Thunder_Child | it's an infinite bar |
| 21:54.21 | Fisker | wtf Maldivia |
| 21:54.35 | Fisker | apparently almost twice the amount of people voted here O_o |
| 21:54.41 | Fisker | we hate democracy apparently |
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| 21:56.46 | Fisker | well more like 65-70% more voters |
| 22:01.35 | Maldivia | :) |
| 22:02.11 | Fisker | http://www.kmdvalg.dk/FV/2011/F505.htm :P |
| 22:03.52 | Fisker | almost a 7fold increase in enhedslistens votes :P |
| 22:05.13 | Maldivia | from 318 to 1966... yeah, that's quite an increase |
| 22:12.03 | Fisker | actually i wonder |
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| 22:23.39 | Maldivia | Fisker: so, are you ready for "når jeg ser et rødt flag smælde" ? |
| 22:25.48 | Adys | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/time-technology-and-leaping-seconds.html |
| 22:25.51 | Adys | interesting read |
| 22:26.39 | Fisker | i don't know that Maldivia |
| 22:26.49 | Fisker | socialism = communism propaganda? |
| 22:27.23 | Thunder_Child | awesome, i have a voicemail with 18 seconds of static. |
| 22:31.24 | Maldivia | 18 seconds... it's a sign of the D3 beta coming... :P |
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| 22:31.53 | Thunder_Child | i already have it |
| 22:32.04 | Maldivia | I knoe |
| 22:32.10 | Thunder_Child | then it has already come |
| 22:33.19 | Maldivia | wow... |
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| 22:44.06 | Fisker | i came btw Thunder_Child |
| 22:44.23 | Thunder_Child | i know Fisker, i got the pics |
| 22:45.09 | Fisker | should never have bought that kinect |
| 22:45.28 | Fisker | i really don't get how Venstre increased their votes though Maldivia :( |
| 22:45.34 | Fisker | Must be an apple thing |
| 22:45.49 | Fisker | nomatter how much bullshit they shovel, they keep increasing their market share |
| 22:46.20 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/10247948180 |
| 22:46.55 | foxlit | "91-88, it couldn't be closer" |
| 22:50.59 | Fisker | baw |
| 22:51.03 | Thunder_Child | 90-89 isnt closer? |
| 22:51.08 | Fisker | no Thunder_Child |
| 22:51.09 | Fisker | ! |
| 22:51.12 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: commentators on tv can't count. |
| 22:51.17 | Thunder_Child | fair enough |
| 22:51.17 | Fisker | it should've been 92-87 :( |
| 22:52.42 | foxlit | isn't it? |
| 22:54.00 | Fisker | you said it's 91-88! |
| 22:57.17 | foxlit | I quoted someone saying that followed by an illogical remark. Make your own conclusions about the accuracy of the source. |
| 22:57.51 | Fisker | baw |
| 22:58.08 | Fisker | well it's unlikely we'll lose anyway |
| 22:58.12 | Fisker | so imma just go to sleep nao |
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| 23:18.05 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
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| 23:23.51 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 23:24.23 | Stanzilla | not sleeping? |
| 23:30.59 | foxlit | grrrrrrr. |
| 23:31.14 | foxlit | the game differentiates between left alt and right alt when you have ALT- bindings and use [mod] |
| 23:31.44 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 23:32.09 | Torhal | They should use the generic ALT if you don't specify. |
| 23:34.16 | foxlit | has to do with masking; hate this entire pile of code. |
| 23:34.49 | foxlit | If you bind a [mod] macro to say ALT-B, it won't consider [mod] satisfied if you use left ALT. |
| 23:35.43 | foxlit | however, pressing right alt-b will trigger the binding and count for [mod] |
| 23:35.48 | foxlit | hate. hate. and more hate. |
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| 23:42.04 | vhaarr | foxlit: you can use a /script command to bind it to ALT, if that's not possible with whatever UI you're using now |
| 23:42.26 | foxlit | bind what to alt? |
| 23:43.09 | vhaarr | <foxlit> If you bind a [mod] macro to say ALT-B, it won't consider [mod] satisfied if you use left ALT. |
| 23:44.30 | foxlit | just to be clear, I consider that to be the correct behavior |
| 23:44.43 | foxlit | alt is sort of used up by you having used the binding |
| 23:44.56 | foxlit | the problem is that left alt and right alt act differently. |
| 23:46.52 | Gnarfoz | the solution is to not bind to alt-b but to b |
| 23:46.53 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 23:47.38 | foxlit | that's only a solution if you don't care about your existing b binding |
| 23:48.04 | Gnarfoz | well, don't use [mod:alt] then ;> |
| 23:48.12 | Gnarfoz | you can only have either, not both :| |
| 23:48.22 | vhaarr | foxlit: yes but I mean, have you tried binding it to LALT-B or RALT-B? |
| 23:48.39 | foxlit | no. I didn't expect this kind of trechery. |
| 23:48.45 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 23:48.48 | Fisker | can you stop me? |
| 23:48.51 | Gnarfoz | not likely |
| 23:48.58 | Gnarfoz | I'm full to the brim with chili con carne |
| 23:49.03 | Thunder_Child | trechery foxlit? please |
| 23:50.49 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: you mean "don't use [mod] then" :) |
| 23:51.12 | foxlit | but requiring people with no understanding of the issue to type out [mod:ctrl/shift] when binding things to ALT-* is not something I consider feasible |
| 23:52.21 | Gnarfoz | there are not many of those kind of people, anyway |
| 23:52.52 | Gnarfoz | (having knowledge of [modifier] macros + custom keybinds but NOT enough brains to troubleshoot problems that might arise) |
| 23:53.33 | Gnarfoz | and no, I meant... don't expect to use [mod:alt] on a macro on a button bound to alt-something =] |
| 23:54.05 | Gnarfoz | Ret+Ret+Arms is a weird arena combo, btw |
| 23:54.36 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 23:54.46 | Fisker | you agitated? |
| 23:54.49 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: in that case, you didn't really catch the subtlety of the problem. |
| 23:55.05 | foxlit | I have a /cast [mod] A; B macro that's bound to something like ALT-P |
| 23:55.22 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: no, pretty much the opposite. *burp* |
| 23:55.23 | foxlit | If you trigger it with LALT-P, it'll cast B |
| 23:55.29 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 23:55.30 | foxlit | If you trigger it with RALT-P, it'll cast A |
| 23:55.49 | foxlit | this makes absolutely no sense to me |
| 23:56.06 | Gnarfoz | well, still the same, you're binding it to alt, and expecting mod:alt to work correctly - it won't, there's no way out :| |
| 23:56.07 | kullervo | ralt registers as ctrl+alt for most purposes |
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| 23:57.00 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: I expect it to break in a consistent fashion |
| 23:57.07 | Gnarfoz | depends on your keyboard layout, tb |
| 23:57.08 | Gnarfoz | tbh |
| 23:58.10 | nebula169 | is it the same with shift and ctrl? |
| 23:58.19 | nebula169 | or is alt just weird |
| 23:58.39 | foxlit | no, it's just alt. |
| 23:58.45 | nebula169 | awkward |
| 23:58.48 | foxlit | your theory about it adding ctrl for no reason sounds good to me. |
| 23:59.06 | Gnarfoz | "no reason" being "altgr traditionally translates to alt+ctrl" |
| 23:59.10 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 23:59.13 | Fisker | can i sell gold on the gold ah? |
| 23:59.23 | Gnarfoz | I think Blizz said you can't sell gold on either |
| 23:59.25 | Gnarfoz | (hurr durr) |
| 23:59.25 | foxlit | this layout doesn't have altgr |
