| 00:12.15 | Stanzilla | Fisker: wot |
| 00:13.49 | Fisker | deynerfing it |
| 00:13.57 | Fisker | nerfing it haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard |
| 00:14.18 | Fisker | they bought a new nerfbat from the Mann Co. store |
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| 00:15.34 | Stanzilla | oh that, yeah well that was foreseeable |
| 00:15.40 | pompy1 | http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=195055/firelands-changes-coming-for-heroic-and-normal-modes |
| 00:15.48 | Stanzilla | glad I don't care about wow anymore :( |
| 00:15.54 | pompy1 | lies |
| 00:16.03 | airtonix | umad? |
| 00:16.54 | Stanzilla | isad |
| 00:18.08 | Fisker | TB should've waited a few months with leaving |
| 00:18.10 | Stanzilla | why they are nerfing all the other hardmodes is beyond me, they are really easy :( |
| 00:18.14 | Fisker | then his argument would actually be valid ell oh ell |
| 00:20.28 | Fisker | FISKER ONLINE |
| 00:21.00 | Fisker | Maldivia |
| 00:21.02 | Fisker | they updated the code |
| 00:21.05 | Fisker | still commented out though |
| 00:22.06 | Dagmar | Stanzilla: Probably because they're still pretty bitchy unless you've gotten most of their gear |
| 00:23.30 | Stanzilla | meh :( |
| 00:23.33 | airtonix | Dagmar: hi i'm 8yrs old and have the attention span of a gnat, and WANT LEWTZ NAO! |
| 00:23.43 | Stanzilla | there are servers that pug 4/7 hc |
| 00:24.16 | Fisker | pug is a pretty strong word to use |
| 00:24.35 | Dagmar | I'm pretty damn sure those "pugs" are made of people who've already gotten most of the gear |
| 00:24.35 | Fisker | noone is really pugging any HC |
| 00:24.44 | Fisker | well not nessecarily |
| 00:24.46 | Fisker | we're pugging it |
| 00:24.59 | Fisker | got 4/7 too |
| 00:25.31 | Fisker | but we're all basically "well" geared players with experience already |
| 00:25.39 | Fisker | not to mention coordination over vt |
| 00:25.45 | Fisker | so not really a true pug |
| 00:25.52 | Stanzilla | most of the time those pugs are good people's alts |
| 00:26.19 | Stanzilla | and it's a pug in that way that is not really organized and has changing members |
| 00:26.24 | Stanzilla | and is started in trade chat! |
| 00:26.51 | Dagmar | I find it amusing that article references EQ. |
| 00:26.55 | Dagmar | I don't think the author played it. |
| 00:27.02 | Fisker | changing members is not as much an issue neither is trade chat when you're screening people anyway |
| 00:27.18 | Dagmar | Sony did things to that player base you don't normally find outside of a club that reminds you about safe words and makes you sign an NDA |
| 00:27.23 | Fisker | It's not like "LFG Firelands, link Ragnaros achievement" and then you'll get in |
| 00:28.09 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 00:28.29 | airtonix | Wobin: http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/297147_257224447629407_257224337629418_987175_6476144_n.jpg |
| 00:28.45 | Dagmar | I was very, very patient with EQ, but waiting over six months for them to un-nerf the wizard class (and it wasn't the only one they did it to) was just too much to bear |
| 00:29.06 | Dagmar | They turned the glass cannon class into a glass .22 with teleports |
| 00:29.36 | Dagmar | It was a cautionary tale about why you don't 'balance' everything against the tank |
| 00:30.32 | Dagmar | I can remember being *extremely* disappointed when I started "raiding" in EQ because it was basically a tank, three healers, and everyone else was little better than somewhere between a cheerleader and chaff |
| 00:31.13 | Dagmar | Warriors got mad because with zero magic resist a wizard could _almost_ one-shot them with an extremely long-cast time spell |
| 00:31.41 | Dagmar | Massive nerfing began, to the point where if the warrior wasn't drunk out of their mind, they might lose against a wizard |
| 00:31.57 | Dagmar | ...which by side effect left the glass cannon at the _back_ of all possible DPS |
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| 00:32.42 | Dagmar | ...and the level progression became entirely awesome around Luclin. You'd get to about 52, and then hit a hard wall where you could not hope to kill a damn thing that would give you any XP before you were out of mana. |
| 00:33.16 | airtonix | Dagmar: so, eq was more like an episode of sailor moon? |
| 00:33.21 | Dagmar | Sony's answer was "This is a grouping game" but groups wouldn't have you along as anything other than a taxi... because not suprisingly, you could't do DPS for shit |
| 00:33.46 | Dagmar | Leaving the mega-taunt mechanic in was purely insane |
| 00:34.03 | Dagmar | A wizard could go blazing away with a low-powered spell and pull aggro |
| 00:34.43 | Dagmar | Like... wait a minute... If someone manages to calculate how hard they can hit without out-damaging the tank and STILL pull aggro anyway? WTF |
| 00:34.51 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Uninstalling EQ and throwing away all the discs and crap from my collectors editions and stuff was the best thing I've ever done in relation to a video game. |
| 00:35.16 | Dagmar | I kept the maps. |
| 00:35.27 | Dagmar | Some of the rest I actually burned. |
| 00:35.50 | airtonix | traumatised |
| 00:35.58 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I threw away EVERYTHING. And despite having many friends that work for SOE, I just don't play games from them. Their design philosophy is "game is punishment." |
| 00:36.09 | Dagmar | That and "money plays" |
| 00:36.31 | Dagmar | I had a serious problem with expansions that had overlapping content with 30-40% extra returns |
| 00:36.32 | airtonix | Dagmar: vis : Aion |
| 00:37.27 | Dagmar | Clearly they liked that method of inducing sales, but I was completely unprepared for how they extended it to SWG |
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| 00:38.04 | Dagmar | When they added spaceflight, I'd been playing that for about six months... In one evening I made more money shooting down newbie mobs than I'd made in the last three months of playing |
| 00:38.37 | Dagmar | F**k Sony |
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| 00:52.39 | Fisker | Stanzilla |
| 00:52.45 | Fisker | why does d3.js troll me so? |
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| 00:53.00 | Stanzilla | what does it do |
| 00:53.10 | Fisker | reference the chatgem + betasignup |
| 00:53.22 | Fisker | i'm not sure if i should F5 or call troll |
| 00:53.48 | Shirik | You should F4 |
| 00:53.54 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 00:53.55 | Shirik | if that doesn't work try holding down the alt key too |
| 00:53.58 | Fisker | get this Stanzilla |
| 00:54.52 | Fisker | http://diffchecker.com/vzoKlw1 |
| 00:55.53 | Stanzilla | nice |
| 00:55.55 | Fisker | also does javascript work like that? |
| 00:56.16 | Stanzilla | where's that file |
| 00:56.27 | Stanzilla | and it's htlm5 WebSockets |
| 00:56.28 | Fisker | http://us.battle.net/d3/static/js/d3.js?v3 |
| 00:56.31 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 00:57.08 | Fisker | but as said, no inclusion of the betasignup class yet |
| 00:57.15 | Fisker | so not sure if troll |
| 00:57.32 | Fisker | pretty sure Blizzard must've realized some dick would figure this out |
| 00:57.33 | Fisker | and then go |
| 00:57.47 | Fisker | "If shit = not commented = SPAM THE SHIT OUT OF THAT GEM" |
| 00:57.50 | Fisker | (); |
| 00:58.12 | Stanzilla | I still fail to notice where the gem is |
| 00:58.34 | Fisker | at the bottom of the page content |
| 00:58.47 | Fisker | i.e. in the footer before the legal shit |
| 00:58.53 | Fisker | and the support sites and shit |
| 00:58.54 | Stanzilla | oh |
| 00:58.55 | Stanzilla | there |
| 00:58.57 | Stanzilla | it glows! |
| 00:59.16 | Fisker | and kd3 is just playing portal 2 |
| 00:59.19 | Fisker | of course it does |
| 00:59.22 | Stanzilla | how did you find that btw? :p |
| 00:59.23 | Fisker | it's the freaking chatgem |
| 00:59.27 | Fisker | oh god Stanzilla |
| 00:59.31 | Fisker | A diablo 3 forums launches |
| 00:59.34 | Fisker | official mind you |
| 00:59.40 | Fisker | and noone looks for the freaking chat gem? |
| 01:00.02 | airtonix | would help to know what one is |
| 01:00.34 | Fisker | if you had any friends in Blizzard and if you had access to the Diablo 3 beta your life would be ending shortly airtonix |
| 01:00.51 | Fisker | but as that is not the case your blatant ignorance and disregard for ones safety can be forgiven |
| 01:02.01 | Fisker | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3123319649 <-hemad |
| 01:02.57 | Fisker | They just need a rank 7 rune |
| 01:03.00 | Fisker | it's so obvious! |
| 01:03.23 | Stanzilla | lawl, need to verify my age for game infos |
| 01:03.35 | Fisker | obviously Stanzilla |
| 01:04.21 | airtonix | Stanzilla: click yes |
| 01:05.13 | Stanzilla | i did! |
| 01:05.30 | airtonix | you got further than fisker then |
| 01:06.55 | Fisker | i could destroy you |
| 01:07.00 | Fisker | for free |
| 01:08.12 | Fisker | i think Doug Lombardi smoked something |
| 01:08.15 | Fisker | "PC Gaming has always been strong in Russia, and we're excited to help improve the experience for Steam customers." said Jason Holtman, Director of Business Development "We're hoping to make gamers happy over the coming months by improving their access to great games." |
| 01:08.16 | Fisker | Thanks |
| 01:08.28 | Fisker | Who is Jason Holtman and why are you writing thanks is a press release? |
| 01:14.20 | Fisker | i require sleep |
| 01:21.19 | Lunessa | Fisker: No one takes your threats seriously. The worst you're ever going to do to anyone is say trolling/stupid/mean things about them on the Internet. |
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| 01:22.47 | Fisker | Are they threats if they're not intended to or is taken seriously? |
| 01:22.56 | Fisker | or are you just dumb? |
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| 01:26.00 | karl_w_w | "If you're going to insist that mages be the most easily killed class (they are, far and away) it follows through elementary games theory that in order to be balanced, they've got to reliably do the most damage." /facepalm |
| 01:26.30 | Lunessa | No Fisker, I'm just being mean to you. Because I don't like you. |
| 01:26.54 | Corrodias | mages should be easy to kill and offer to play value |
| 01:26.58 | Corrodias | only then will we finally be rid of them |
| 01:27.02 | Corrodias | *no play |
| 01:28.04 | Dagmar | Oh wait, I know... Let's give them a "utility" spell that teleports them to a completely random location in an 800 yard radius |
| 01:28.33 | Dagmar | ...and take away invisibility. |
| 01:28.49 | karl_w_w | terrible idea |
| 01:30.11 | Dagmar | You're never going to get a job at SoE with *that* attitude |
| 01:30.34 | Fisker | Being mean to someone on the internet has little meaning to me Lunessa |
| 01:30.56 | karl_w_w | thats good, i have no idea what a SoE is |
| 01:31.07 | Fisker | I think he means SOE |
| 01:31.13 | Fisker | Sony Online Entertainment |
| 01:31.21 | Fisker | get it because the O is also uppercase? |
| 01:32.05 | Fisker | I left Planetside because of SOE |
| 01:32.19 | Fisker | Dey were stoopid |
| 01:32.34 | Fisker | One of the guns, which happened to be the only one i was specializing in, had a bug |
| 01:32.44 | Fisker | And that bug caused it to be more effective than it should've been |
| 01:32.59 | Fisker | So from a n00bs perspective it needed a nerf |
| 01:33.01 | Dagmar | No, because they nerfed the O. Warriors complained it was too overpowered. |
| 01:33.08 | Fisker | from a game developers perspective it needed a fix |
| 01:33.13 | Fisker | From SOE's perspective it needed both |
| 01:33.19 | Fisker | Meaning that it was useless |
| 01:33.41 | Dagmar | I will say one thing. |
| 01:33.59 | Dagmar | When they nerfed Ice Comet at least it stopped being a "teleport to bind without your shit" spell. |
| 01:34.24 | Dagmar | I don't think there _was_ a wizard who didn't kill themselves at least twice. |
| 01:35.00 | Shirik | o.O |
| 01:35.03 | Shirik | Temporary Error (500) |
| 01:35.03 | Shirik | Weâre sorry, but your Gmail account is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience and suggest trying again in a few minutes. |
| 01:35.28 | Dagmar | You'd cast some spell or other on yourself... go walking somewhere... half an hour later you see someone whose pockets you'd like a peek into, so you sneak up... start casting... |
| 01:36.10 | Dagmar | *WHAM* "Oh crap someone spotted me!" *click*click*click*click* *RENUKE* *chiiimeyerdead* |
| 01:36.28 | Dagmar | ...because you still had yourself targeted from half an hour ago. |
| 01:37.11 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 01:37.15 | Fisker | you just lost all your mail |
| 01:37.16 | Fisker | bam |
| 01:37.19 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:37.21 | Dagmar | When I had my knee surgery, my guild thought it was the absolute funniest thing ever |
| 01:38.07 | Dagmar | Level 40+ and I lose a fight to an orc because the pain meds had me so fucked up I actually managed to nuke myself to death in a _newbie area_ because I couldn't tell I was casting in myself |
| 01:38.19 | Dagmar | ...using lower-level nukes |
| 01:38.29 | Dagmar | ...with pushback. |
| 01:39.02 | Dagmar | I am so damn glad you can't nuke yourself in WoW |
| 01:41.09 | Shirik | you should be allowed to |
| 01:41.25 | Dagmar | Warlocks would be reviled everywhere |
| 01:42.07 | mckenziemc1 | you /can/ nuke yourself |
| 01:42.11 | mckenziemc1 | keep casting while in the fire |
| 01:42.30 | Dagmar | It would LifeTap, Seed, "/gsay Oh crap. I'll pay the repair bills." |
| 01:43.17 | Dagmar | same goes for if you could screw up as a paladin and accidentally drop a heal on a boss |
| 01:45.19 | Dagmar | The closest I've ever come in Wow was that three-faced boss in ICC when it first opened. |
| 01:45.37 | Dagmar | "I think I know what that spell is doing, guys..." |
| 01:46.37 | Dagmar | I landed some awesome crits tho'. Heh |
| 01:48.42 | airtonix | Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/TNHBQ.jpg |
| 01:52.44 | airtonix | i am so .... for warhammer |
| 01:53.39 | Corrodias | airtonix: i have another thing to add to that list |
| 01:53.51 | Corrodias | "the game is finished; all the DLC is out" |
| 01:54.29 | Corrodias | buy a complete game for $30 instead of 75% of it for $60! |
| 01:55.08 | airtonix | yeah dawg |
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| 02:21.12 | Thunder_Child | http://i.imgur.com/htqsx.jpg |
| 02:27.25 | Kraps | thats insane |
| 02:27.30 | Kraps | ENHANCE |
| 02:27.57 | Phelps | zoom in on that license plate |
| 02:28.11 | Phelps | enhance |
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| 02:55.48 | Seerah | Thunder_Child: win. |
| 02:57.15 | Lunessa | That's a lot of data for an image. Next someone will want you to rotate the person and enhance the face so they can arrest him. |
| 02:59.48 | Seerah | it's not that they found *a* person. It's *who* ;) |
| 03:00.17 | Phelps | Thunder_Child: hey, did you want a bitlbee server ? |
| 03:00.30 | Phelps | if you wanna check it out, you can use mine, i have one running |
| 03:01.35 | Thunder_Child | Phelps: no. but thank you |
| 03:02.17 | Phelps | its pretty cool |
| 03:02.20 | Phelps | but i have no friends |
| 03:02.26 | Phelps | so it doesn't really do me any good |
| 03:02.28 | Phelps | you know.... |
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| 03:15.53 | Stanzilla | Fisker: http://www.minimallyminimal.com/journal/2010/7/11/htc-1.html make that happen! |
| 03:16.27 | Cide | ew |
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| 03:24.47 | airtonix | Phelps: but you have a mac... i don't understand why you don't have friends |
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| 03:25.22 | airtonix | surely the act of procuring an apple product accumulates people who wish to befriend you |
| 03:25.47 | Phelps | its because im fat and ugly |
| 03:25.55 | Phelps | ofcourse |
| 03:26.14 | Phelps | wanna try to break something ? |
| 03:26.37 | Phelps | http://chat.64bits.co/a995c6ad9a |
| 03:28.34 | Lunessa | Stanzilla: That htc phone looks kind of nice, actually. |
| 03:29.54 | |Jelly| | I'd buy it. |
| 03:30.21 | Lunessa | The older I get, the more I like minimal design. |
| 03:31.27 | Kraps | is contemporary fantasy usually good? |
| 03:31.46 | Thunder_Child | the phone is too small, but i do like the look |
| 03:33.02 | Lunessa | Kraps - depends on what you mean by that. There's a few authors who write in the fantasy genre that draw from "real world" stuff - like Feist and Hambly - some of there stuff is pretty slick. Barbra Hambly's "The Walls of Air" stuff is very good. |
| 03:33.24 | airtonix | how do you know it's too small? |
| 03:34.13 | |Jelly| | I do think that the kickstand would either A) have to be reinforced in it's locked state or B) be an option. I'd rather my phone not just kinda unhinge while I was walking around texting. |
| 03:34.28 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: you see it in a hand |
| 03:34.33 | airtonix | easy with a rachet pinion |
| 03:34.46 | Lunessa | And I'm outta here. need food and the work day is over. |
| 03:34.49 | airtonix | at rat shit peneon |
| 03:35.25 | Thunder_Child | and not only is it in a hand, but it has a standard jack as well, which also gives size |
| 03:36.43 | Phelps | its a phone not a bike |
| 03:36.54 | Phelps | doesn't need a kickstand |
| 03:37.02 | Kraps | amazon got a redesign |
| 03:37.14 | Thunder_Child | does when you design it to be watched like a TV |
| 03:37.14 | Phelps | and just caus its android, doesn't mean it has to have one |
| 03:37.38 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: not that i can tell |
| 03:37.43 | Phelps | if I watch anything on a phone, its about a foot from my face |
| 03:37.45 | Phelps | in my hands |
| 03:37.51 | Phelps | not 3 feet away on my desk |
| 03:37.53 | Phelps | where I cant see it |
| 03:38.16 | Thunder_Child | you sit 3 feet awat from your desk? |
| 03:39.52 | |Jelly| | You have short arms. :| |
| 03:42.45 | Thunder_Child | ~lart |Jelly| |
| 03:42.45 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into |Jelly|'s ear |
| 03:45.36 | Kraps | "Read anything and everything from Stephanie Meyer. The Twilight series is great and has lots of vampires and werewolves. The Host, also from her, is about body snatchers. " |
| 03:46.01 | Phelps | thanks for the input |
| 03:46.07 | Iriel | np. |
| 03:46.09 | Phelps | im gonna fix that lag issue |
| 03:46.24 | Phelps | ill upload something big and test it :p |
| 03:46.37 | Wobin | Kraps: I hope those were sarcasm quotation marks |
| 03:46.41 | Wobin | or I'd have to stab you in the face |
| 03:46.56 | Kraps | i'm quoting something |
| 03:47.21 | Phelps | usually what quotation marks mean |
| 03:47.42 | Kraps | the person was not being sarcastic |
| 03:47.52 | Wobin | yes |
| 03:47.57 | Wobin | which is sad =( |
| 03:48.37 | Wobin | if you want modern fantasy |
| 03:48.48 | Wobin | I suggest Kraken - China Mievielle |
| 03:49.01 | Phelps | im amazed by the number of mac users in this channel |
| 03:49.26 | Wobin | that's like.. modern steampunk cthulhu thriller urban chaotic fantasy |
| 03:49.48 | Phelps | steampunk is soo awesome |
| 03:50.07 | Wobin | I only say steampunk, because there is no closer comparative genre |
| 03:50.11 | Phelps | etsy.com has some goold steampunk |
| 03:50.17 | Phelps | coo l* |
| 03:50.19 | Phelps | fuckit |
| 03:50.23 | Wobin | I only browse regretsy |
| 03:51.00 | Kraps | are there actual kraken? i dont really dig sea monsters |
| 03:51.22 | Kraps | what the hell kind of alignment was that? |
| 03:51.54 | Wobin | Kraps: yes |
| 03:51.59 | Wobin | well |
| 03:52.00 | Wobin | it's dead |
| 03:52.02 | Wobin | kinda |
| 03:52.10 | Wobin | read the book. It's worth the effort =) |
| 03:52.52 | Phelps | reading.. psh |
| 03:52.53 | Wobin | it's one of the few books in the 'urban fantasy' genre I've read that actually feels like it could happen in real life |
| 03:53.02 | Phelps | audible.com ftw |
| 03:53.16 | Kraps | http://www.booksfree.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?searchInput=China+Mievielle&searchTypeId=keyword&free=free |
| 03:53.55 | Kraps | Phelps: i cant listen to talking when i'm doing something else |
| 03:54.08 | Phelps | walking/running ? |
| 03:54.16 | Phelps | thats when I listen to books |
| 03:54.29 | Kraps | cant do either of those! |
| 03:54.46 | Wobin | I lsten on the train |
| 03:55.27 | Wobin | http://www.booksfree.com/Rent-Kraken-China-Mieville-Book-9780345497505 |
| 03:55.27 | Phelps | http://www.etsy.com/listing/79081467/ |
| 03:55.49 | Phelps | lolol |
| 03:56.32 | Kraps | Wobin: yeah, but i want to finish codex alera first i think |
| 03:56.39 | Wobin | http://www.regretsy.com/ |
| 03:56.47 | Kraps | Phelps: DUDE TAG |
| 03:57.09 | Phelps | its covered |
| 03:57.22 | Phelps | kinda |
| 03:57.31 | Phelps | should add those to the |
| 03:57.47 | Phelps | Things That Are Not Steampunk #22 |
| 03:58.27 | Kraps | what the shit is that site |
| 03:58.45 | Phelps | showcasing the worst of etsy, from what i can see |
| 03:59.04 | Phelps | http://www.etsy.com/listing/81063377/ SFW |
| 03:59.07 | Phelps | and awesome as hell |
| 03:59.27 | Phelps | go grocery shopping with that on |
| 04:00.02 | Wobin | hm |
| 04:00.07 | Wobin | it's kinda fail as an actual gas mask |
| 04:00.12 | Phelps | yeah |
| 04:00.14 | Phelps | but it looks cool |
| 04:00.19 | Phelps | thats all that matters |
| 04:00.46 | Thunder_Child | thats actually not what matters |
| 04:01.05 | Kraps | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/ummmm.jpg |
| 04:01.11 | Phelps | it depends on the situation really |
| 04:01.39 | Phelps | if you're being gassed, the mask probably would suck quite a bit |
| 04:01.44 | Phelps | if you are not, its awesome |
| 04:04.06 | Kraps | hey Jamash |
| 04:04.35 | Jamash | yesssssssssssssss? |
| 04:05.15 | Kraps | Jamash: Q? |
| 04:05.32 | Jamash | do what now? |
| 04:06.05 | Kraps | Q from Star Trek is on MLP |
| 04:07.07 | Phelps | Iriel: http://chat.64bits.co/ hows the message on the bottom |
| 04:07.07 | Jamash | dude |
| 04:07.20 | Jamash | he has a good voice for it |
| 04:07.51 | Kraps | he does |
| 04:08.03 | Kraps | i wasnt questioning it |
| 04:08.14 | Phelps | whats MLP ? |
| 04:08.46 | Phelps | i only ask because I refuse what google is telling me |
| 04:08.46 | Kraps | murderous lecherous perverts |
| 04:08.50 | airtonix | something you're envious of |
| 04:08.59 | Iriel | My Little Pony? |
| 04:09.18 | Kraps | NO |
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| 04:09.34 | Kraps | thats ridiculous! |
| 04:09.56 | Phelps | i seriously hate the pony shit |
| 04:10.13 | Jamash | best show ever |
| 04:10.35 | Kraps | what Jamash said |
| 04:11.05 | Thunder_Child | i hope the game of thrones game sucks horribly |
| 04:11.16 | Kraps | why? |
| 04:11.30 | Thunder_Child | because it would make me happy |
| 04:11.50 | Shirik | Cide |
| 04:11.52 | Shirik | Cide Cide Cide |
| 04:11.54 | Kraps | ok |
| 04:11.55 | Cide | Shirik |
| 04:11.56 | Shirik | wanna do a troll heroic? |
| 04:12.02 | Cide | I was considering it |
| 04:12.07 | Shirik | cross realm |
| 04:12.07 | Shirik | go |
| 04:12.09 | Cide | but I'm all set on valor gear |
| 04:12.13 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:12.17 | Cide | and I desperately need to sleep |
| 04:12.19 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:12.24 | Cide | tonight's raid was worse than awful |
| 04:12.27 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:12.31 | Cide | indeed |
| 04:12.38 | Cide | so maybe tomorrow |
| 04:12.38 | Cide | ! |
| 04:12.43 | Shirik | :(e |
| 04:12.46 | Cide | or you should join me in sc2 tomorrow |
| 04:12.57 | Shirik | in a real game |
| 04:12.58 | Shirik | maybe |
| 04:13.22 | airtonix | Shirik |
| 04:13.35 | Cide | ok |
| 04:13.36 | Cide | good night! |
| 04:13.44 | airtonix | enter moar pls |
| 04:13.55 | Cide | m |
| 04:13.55 | Cide | o |
| 04:13.58 | Cide | ar? |
| 04:14.09 | airtonix | enter is the new comma? |
| 04:14.22 | Cide | "m,o,ar?" would not make sense, so no |
| 04:14.31 | airtonix | umad? |
| 04:15.35 | Iriel | Phelps: You could share an encryption key between clients, never stored on server, and only store encrypted messages in the DB |
| 04:15.44 | Torhal | airtonix: We're all mad. Thanks for asking. Jerk. |
| 04:16.36 | Phelps | are there any good JS implementations of encryption ? |
| 04:18.56 | Jamash | I recommend double rot-13 |
| 04:19.06 | Phelps | u so funny |
| 04:19.11 | Phelps | ^ |
| 04:19.12 | Jamash | it's true, I am |
| 04:19.17 | Cide | Jamash: no |
| 04:19.20 | Cide | single rot-26 is better |
| 04:19.20 | Phelps | lets chat in double rot13 |
| 04:19.26 | Cide | and faster |
| 04:19.29 | Jamash | I had a post promoted to alt.humor.best-of-usenet |
| 04:24.53 | Jamash | Cide: actually there's a new variant available |
| 04:28.55 | Jamash | 081-Êoɹ pÇ××ÉÉ s,Êı ÊuÄ±É¥Ê Ä± |
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| 04:32.15 | airtonix | omg hackers |
| 04:32.24 | airtonix | are like sailing boats |
| 04:33.36 | Jamash | I thought sailors were hacking boats |
| 04:33.54 | airtonix | you clearling are not up to date with current computer theory |
| 04:36.33 | Cide | Jamash: exquisite |
| 04:43.22 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: fail, the numbers are not upsidedown |
| 05:17.21 | Jamash | you're not upside-down |
| 05:17.24 | Jamash | ZING |
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| 05:22.47 | Shirik | Cide |
| 05:22.50 | Shirik | you are so cruel |
| 05:22.56 | Shirik | you said you were going to sleep |
| 05:23.01 | Shirik | and we finished the heroic without you |
| 05:23.05 | Shirik | and lo, you are awake |
| 05:26.18 | Thunder_Child | not according to irc Shirik |
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| 05:32.54 | Thunder_Child | damit, not a woot-off |
| 05:33.16 | Thunder_Child | kd3: your rss feed is going to get blowed up again |
| 05:33.59 | Kraps | "Detonating a nuclear device within the city limits results in a $500 fine." http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/california?page=20 |
| 05:35.42 | Jamash | what's that in nuca-cola caps |
| 05:36.10 | Thunder_Child | 50 |
| 05:36.23 | Thunder_Child | wasnt $1 = 10 caps? |
| 05:36.44 | Shirik | Kraps: The only one that doesn't actually have the full text of the law |
| 05:37.09 | Kraps | yeah |
| 05:37.13 | Jamash | I was about to mention that |
| 05:37.19 | Kraps | whats it mean |
| 05:37.19 | Jamash | [citation needed] |
| 05:37.48 | Jamash | some of these laws really aren't that dumb |
| 05:38.29 | Shirik | this one is: http://www.dumblaws.com/law/1370 |
| 05:38.34 | Jamash | like do you want it to be legal to drive a herd of cattle through your neighborhood? |
| 05:38.49 | Jamash | that on the other hand is pretty dumb |
| 05:39.49 | Kraps | http://artoftrolling.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/3c4d9078-adf6-4e16-a3fe-cc1bdad3c237.jpg |
| 05:40.02 | Kraps | damn |
| 05:40.45 | Shirik | Kraps: Tat's awesome |
| 05:40.56 | Jamash | also the summaries omit parts of some laws in order to render them ridiculous when the full text is much more reasonable |
| 05:41.17 | Shirik | yeah |
| 05:41.24 | Shirik | the baseball one I expected to be like that |
| 05:41.30 | Shirik | and then I was like "wat" |
| 05:42.34 | Adys | Kraps: i dont get it |
| 05:43.01 | Kraps | its dan radcliffe as harry potter |
| 05:43.08 | Jamash | the law about selling permanent markers says you have to keep aerosol spray cans and permanent markers behind the counter or in a locked case (presumably to deter taggers from shoplifting them), not "you can't sell them at all" |
| 05:43.22 | Adys | Kraps: yeah so? |
| 05:43.35 | Jamash | it's einstein overlaid with harry potter |
| 05:43.56 | Adys | yeah but i dont get the "almost close your eyes" bit |
| 05:44.05 | Jamash | in a way such that when you squint one appears to turn into the other |
| 05:44.31 | Adys | uhh |
| 05:44.34 | Adys | i can see both just fine |
| 05:44.41 | Jamash | that's nice, dear |
| 05:45.26 | Jamash | do you demand your money back when you go to a magician's show and the woman doesn't get cut in half and die? |
| 05:45.40 | Adys | no, since im usually the magician |
| 05:45.43 | Adys | in any case |
| 05:45.45 | Adys | http://dedimine.com/patches/incremental-enGB/ |
| 05:45.46 | Adys | win |
| 05:46.02 | Jamash | you misspelled "data" |
| 05:46.17 | Adys | you too |
| 05:46.44 | Jamash | VICTORY IS MINE |
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| 05:46.52 | Jamash | awwwwwwww |
| 05:47.09 | Adys | what what |
| 05:47.11 | Adys | what did i miss |
| 05:47.13 | Adys | quick tell me |
| 05:47.41 | Jamash | ghostcrawler logged on and announced mists of pandaria and gave everyone beta keys |
| 05:47.47 | Adys | SWEET |
| 05:47.53 | Adys | Im not interested |
| 05:48.30 | Jamash | coostobro |
| 05:48.35 | Adys | anyone familiar with nginx? |
| 05:49.11 | Kraps | costcobro |
| 05:49.38 | Jamash | I am familiar with it to the extent that I'm tired of seeing error messages from it on overloaded web sites |
| 05:59.29 | Adys | wow cmake |
| 05:59.38 | Adys | if(${KDE_PLATFORM_PROFILE} STREQUAL "Desktop") ... endif(${KDE_PLATFORM_PROFILE} STREQUAL "Desktop") |
| 05:59.40 | Adys | REALLY |
| 05:59.47 | Jamash | wut |
| 06:01.46 | Jamash | man it takes creativity to be more verbose than xml but they did it |
| 06:02.29 | Dagmar | That's generated output, tho', right? |
| 06:02.35 | Adys | It's not |
| 06:02.39 | Jamash | "Note that the same expression must be given to if and endif" |
| 06:02.56 | Dagmar | Well, at least you'd have to be really high to mis-read the nesting |
| 06:03.09 | Jamash | you'd have to be really high to write the spec that way too |
| 06:03.15 | Adys | Indeed |
| 06:03.20 | Dagmar | cmake. |
| 06:03.27 | Jamash | not even once |
| 06:03.29 | Adys | Come on, cmake is great |
| 06:03.32 | Adys | compared to autotools. |
| 06:03.50 | Adys | that said, even php is great compared to autotools |
| 06:03.53 | Jamash | I hear genital warts are great compared to syphilis |
| 06:04.40 | Shirik | I hear iphone is great compared to windows phone |
| 06:04.42 | Shirik | oooooooooo |
| 06:04.59 | Adys | endif(SIP_FOUND AND SIP_VERSION STRLESS "040701") |
| 06:05.00 | Adys | fuck |
| 06:05.01 | Adys | i mean |
| 06:05.01 | Adys | ugh |
| 06:05.11 | Jamash | Shirik: that's more like indentured servitude compared to the death penalty |
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| 06:06.59 | Jamash | Adys: you should write a cmake script to generate your cmake scripts |
| 06:07.03 | Jamash | ohohohohohohoho |
| 06:08.16 | Phelps | hmmm |
| 06:08.23 | Phelps | minecraft 1.8 seems pretty good |
| 06:08.34 | Adys | Jamash: you mean exactly what autotools does with configure? |
| 06:08.37 | Adys | OHOHOHOHOHO |
| 06:08.42 | Dagmar | Phelps: Aye |
| 06:08.54 | Jamash | Adys: wow it's like you made the joke I was making |
| 06:09.00 | Adys | I KNOW RIGHT |
| 06:09.06 | Jamash | YEAH |
| 06:09.08 | Dagmar | memeception |
| 06:09.11 | Phelps | though im not sure what the XP bar is for really, i cant find any reference to level |
| 06:09.14 | Jamash | ~inception |
| 06:09.15 | purl | <a href="http://inception.davepedu.com/">BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH</a> |
| 06:09.27 | Adys | besides, arent there tools to generate autotools scripts nowadays? |
| 06:09.33 | Dagmar | Phelps: How long you're going to be blinded by the ravey XP balls when you go back to your crap |
| 06:10.00 | Phelps | hmm? |
| 06:10.08 | Dagmar | Also beyond a certain point, no one on the server can touch you |
| 06:10.14 | Phelps | ohhh |
| 06:10.20 | Phelps | does it make you stronger ? |
| 06:10.20 | Jamash | I just wrote my own c compiler in cross-platform shell code, saved a lot of time |
| 06:10.21 | Dagmar | Those things you've been picking up, the Xp orbs... |
| 06:10.25 | Phelps | more hp or something |
| 06:10.26 | Dagmar | No. |
| 06:10.30 | Dagmar | They don't do anything at the moment. |
| 06:10.41 | Dagmar | ...but if you die, they scatter like the rest of your crap in your pockets. |
| 06:10.48 | Phelps | ohh damn |
| 06:10.56 | Dagmar | You can collect FAR more of them than the server can deal with |
| 06:10.57 | Phelps | so people can jack your XP ? |
| 06:10.58 | Jamash | Dagmar: watchoo talkin' bout |
| 06:11.15 | Dagmar | No, beyond a certain point, if someone kills you, the server dies. |
| 06:11.16 | Phelps | i wanan die now and see what happens |
| 06:11.37 | Dagmar | Also, they are a massive annoyance if you rush up to try to grab say, a sword to defend yourself. |
| 06:11.46 | Dagmar | They don't immediately soak in |
| 06:12.05 | Dagmar | They can and will completely obscure your screen beyond "level 9" or so |
| 06:12.16 | Dagmar | Definitely a The Highlander aspect to that |
| 06:12.18 | Jamash | So when I was testing Horizons: Empire of Somethingorother (is that still running?) another tester figured out that the trade window would expand as needed |
| 06:12.30 | Jamash | so you could put your entire inventory into it |
| 06:12.46 | Jamash | and then when you clicked "trade" the test server would instantly crash |
| 06:13.01 | Dagmar | Awesome |
| 06:13.12 | Dagmar | EQ woulnd't crash from that but you could accidentally embargo a zone with pennies |
| 06:13.13 | Jamash | then, of course, being good testers, when the server came back up, we had to see if it was reproducible |
| 06:13.14 | Phelps | that would be nice in wow |
| 06:13.25 | Phelps | expanding trade windows |
| 06:13.40 | Dagmar | Me and about six guys dumped nearly 60,000 copper |
| 06:14.00 | Dagmar | Crap like this is why WoW doesn't have item drops I suspect. ;) |
| 06:14.16 | Phelps | psh |
| 06:14.21 | Phelps | wow could handle it |
| 06:14.27 | Phelps | idk about the client though |
| 06:14.28 | Jamash | "reproducing" consisted of everyone on the project crowding around the two guys' workstations while they dumped about a thousand items in and clicked trade |
| 06:15.01 | Jamash | click |
| 06:15.10 | Jamash | <beyooooooooooooo....> |
| 06:15.15 | Phelps | ive done whole strath clears in 1 run, thats a few hundred mobs worth of AoE to process |
| 06:15.18 | Jamash | ring ring ring |
| 06:15.24 | Jamash | "Hello?" |
| 06:15.36 | Jamash | "Oh, yeah, that was us, we found a crash bug." |
| 06:16.20 | Jamash | also the profanity filter didn't check user-created descriptions on crafted items |
| 06:16.32 | Dagmar | Phelps: Yeah but it's a slightly different thing than serializing >100x the expected number of objects to send to the client |
| 06:16.41 | Jamash | anyway |
| 06:16.47 | Jamash | WHAT GAME ARE YOU TWO TALKING ABOUT |
| 06:17.13 | Phelps | if wow servers could handle massive item drops |
| 06:17.24 | Phelps | like in minecraft or a lot of other mmos |
| 06:17.31 | Jamash | also Dagmar just illustrated why wow doesn't have a "loot all in range" button |
| 06:17.35 | Dagmar | They're zoneless. EQ wasn't. |
| 06:17.46 | Dagmar | You enter a zone there, and the server sends you the full list of everything in the zone. |
| 06:17.48 | Jamash | xp orbs? |
| 06:17.55 | Dagmar | Jamash: Minecraft |
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| 06:17.57 | Dagmar | It has XP now. |
| 06:18.17 | Phelps | gonna have traders n shit |
| 06:18.20 | Phelps | like terria |
| 06:18.21 | Dagmar | It is EVIL |
| 06:18.23 | Phelps | or w/e its called |
| 06:18.33 | Jamash | can I buy hats and level up and get perks and swear at people on voice chat? |
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| 06:18.54 | Dagmar | No hats. Swearing is optional and unsupported. |
| 06:19.08 | Phelps | you can have hats in minecraft |
| 06:19.21 | Thunder_Child | helms |
| 06:19.30 | Phelps | hats on your character texture |
| 06:19.35 | Thunder_Child | helms |
| 06:19.43 | Phelps | HATS MUTHERFUCKER |
| 06:19.48 | Jamash | can I put a hat on my hat so I can be dapper while I'm dapper? |
| 06:19.49 | Thunder_Child | helm |
| 06:19.57 | Thunder_Child | ~dict 1 helm |
| 06:19.59 | Phelps | yes Jamash |
| 06:20.09 | Thunder_Child | helm, not hat |
| 06:20.16 | Phelps | ~dict 1 hat |
| 06:20.23 | Phelps | fuckoff |
| 06:20.25 | Dagmar | Doesn't really matter what you do to your avvy's skin. |
| 06:20.27 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 06:20.33 | Thunder_Child | ~dict 1 helmet |
| 06:20.43 | Dagmar | Unless you're doing Creative mode, now there's more reason than ever to at least drape yourself in dead cow |
| 06:21.01 | Dagmar | If you're doing Creative mode, don't worry. Someday puberty will happen. |
| 06:21.16 | Phelps | lol |
| 06:21.27 | Thunder_Child | dead cow is awesome Dagmar |
| 06:21.33 | Phelps | i dont really like minecraft all that much |
| 06:21.40 | Dagmar | Well, at least it keeps creepers from one-shotting you |
| 06:22.00 | Dagmar | Phelps: Redstone is a hoot |
| 06:22.07 | Dagmar | It's also a tool of the deveil |
| 06:22.15 | Phelps | redstone is nifty |
| 06:22.24 | Phelps | lots to learn from it |
| 06:22.41 | Dagmar | I had to have blown 9 or 10 hours working out the circuit for a decent automated stop-start railstation |
| 06:22.56 | Dagmar | Entirely level track, bidirectional. |
| 06:22.56 | Phelps | i tried to implement it in Lua for a custom server I worked on that was written in C++ |
| 06:23.04 | Jamash | you know that you could just mod that in dagmar |
| 06:23.18 | Dagmar | Jamash: It would have fucking been easier, that's for sure. |
| 06:23.37 | Dagmar | Could I add a block that creates an event hook to catch carts and restart them on their way in 10 seconds? Yes. |
| 06:23.45 | Phelps | http://mc-server.org/ |
| 06:23.53 | Phelps | im pretty sure its dead now |
| 06:23.58 | Phelps | but I worked on that a bit |
| 06:24.11 | Jamash | why is everyone so obsessed with turning minecraft into railworks anyway |
| 06:24.13 | Dagmar | However, with only a shitload of redstone, and an underground racquetball court's-worth of space, I can do it in vanilla. ;) |
| 06:24.29 | Dagmar | Jamash: Because building weird crap and avoiding vandalism requires space |
| 06:24.49 | Jamash | Dagmar: I see what you did there |
| 06:24.52 | Dagmar | I finally built a gigacreeper for someone, and it didn't take them a week to set it off |
| 06:24.52 | Phelps | i ran a server for a while |
| 06:25.03 | Phelps | once it got popular i sold it (lol) |
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| 06:25.37 | Jamash | gigacreeper? |
| 06:25.43 | Dagmar | Collect craploads of wool, plant the hell out of cactuses. Build one quick mob grinder for the bonemeal and gunpowder. |
| 06:26.00 | Dagmar | Bust the cactuses into dye, build scale model of creeper. |
| 06:26.01 | Dagmar | Hollow. |
| 06:26.04 | Dagmar | Fill with TNT. |
| 06:26.08 | Jamash | -_- |
| 06:26.30 | Dagmar | In the foot or at the top, either one, you need a 4x4 area of soil, at least one of which must have grass. |
| 06:26.36 | Phelps | play on awesome server, use /item codes |
| 06:26.59 | Dagmar | You then stick a wooden pressure plate atop a block of TNT in there, plant a torch, and close up the 4x4 mostly-empty space. |
| 06:27.24 | Dagmar | It now contains (1) grass, and (2) light, and (3) what amounts to a landmine |
| 06:27.48 | Dagmar | Grass plus light means that at some point, a *chicken* will eventually spawn. |
| 06:28.02 | Jamash | -_____________- |
| 06:28.05 | Dagmar | it will step onto the pressure plate, and god help anyone nearby |
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| 06:28.40 | Dagmar | This basically makes it a statue you *don't* look at |
| 06:28.57 | Jamash | clearly you want to walk away while wearing sunglasses |
| 06:29.02 | Dagmar | ...because as long as the server hasn't loaded those chunks, no attempts at spawning chickens will be made |
| 06:29.09 | Dagmar | I ran |
| 06:29.12 | Jamash | while someone else looks at it |
| 06:29.31 | Dagmar | I put up signs at the border to where it would start to get loaded saying "TURN BACK" and stuff |
| 06:29.49 | Jamash | HERE THERE BE EXPLODING MONSTERS |
| 06:29.54 | Dagmar | OH yeah |
| 06:30.09 | Dagmar | It makes a pretty impressive hole |
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| 06:30.38 | Phelps | http://www.linode.com/?r=d1180b818c291d0f67856cdf04f568feab685f7b |
| 06:30.49 | Phelps | signup for a vps using my ref link |
| 06:30.54 | Dagmar | There are sooo many ways to lure people to their deaths |
| 06:31.01 | Dagmar | It's truly a wonderful game. |
| 06:31.14 | Jamash | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s4yNsJt0EU&NR=1 |
| 06:31.27 | cbreak-work | chicken? Light/Dark? |
| 06:31.30 | cbreak-work | what the hell |
| 06:31.44 | Dagmar | You never played with TNT in minecraft? |
| 06:31.47 | Jamash | terraria > minecraft |
| 06:31.47 | Dagmar | Land mines rock. |
| 06:32.34 | Dagmar | The chicken thing was just something I figured out awhile back as a way to make an area sort of generically more dangerous |
| 06:33.33 | Dagmar | It's pretty hilarious tho to see someone's reaction when TNT just goes off "somewhere" nearby for no apparent reason... multiple times |
| 06:34.19 | cbreak-work | makes no sense. |
| 06:34.52 | Dagmar | Minecraft spawns livestock mobs like chickens just based on where there is grass and light. |
| 06:34.57 | Dagmar | It doesn't have to be sunlight. |
| 06:35.29 | Dagmar | So if you dig a hole and put a torch in it, if you managed to have grass in there, at some point, a livestock animal will spawn and hop around |
| 06:36.03 | Dagmar | Mob steps on pressure plate, pressure plate is sitting right on top of TNT and sets it off. |
| 06:36.28 | Dagmar | You can *see* obvious traps like pressure plates just lying around. |
| 06:36.34 | Dagmar | This, not so much. |
| 06:37.26 | Dagmar | I've got a nice underground maze with lava lighting it from above. |
| 06:37.42 | Dagmar | It's even got a conveniently marked light switch to turn the lights off and on. |
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| 06:38.27 | Dagmar | Someone can be on the server all by themselves... wander in there... and five minutes later the function of the extra redstone in the walls makes itself known. |
| 06:38.50 | Dagmar | The lights go *out*, parts of the maze change, and gaps in the ceiling open up so zombies and skeletons can come say hello |
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| 06:44.58 | Wobin | Schrodinger's Chicken Trigger |
| 06:45.04 | Dagmar | Oh yes. |
| 06:45.06 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 06:45.14 | Thunder_Child | it's obvious if it is dead |
| 06:45.30 | Wobin | well it won't spawn til you observe it |
| 06:45.36 | Wobin | it's in a wave state |
| 06:45.44 | Dagmar | I've never seen it leave feathers behind. :) |
| 06:45.45 | Thunder_Child | thats not ture |
| 06:45.52 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: if the chunk is not loaded |
| 06:45.54 | Thunder_Child | it can spawn if you are not observing it |
| 06:45.54 | Dagmar | Actually it is |
| 06:45.56 | Wobin | it will not explode |
| 06:46.28 | Thunder_Child | but you dont have to observe the inside |
| 06:46.30 | Dagmar | Until the server has a chunk loaded it might as well not exist |
| 06:46.30 | Thunder_Child | correct? |
| 06:46.46 | Wobin | correct |
| 06:47.02 | Dagmar | The inside rather rapidly goes away once there is a chicnken in it |
| 06:47.19 | Thunder_Child | and will the server load the chunk if you are next to it but have not looked in the direction of it? |
| 06:47.25 | Dagmar | The 3x3x3 vaporization area takes care of that |
| 06:47.53 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: livestock can and will spawn at night. |
| 06:48.07 | Thunder_Child | er, thats not what i asked |
| 06:48.13 | Dagmar | In fact, at night, if the area isn't lit, those things get exciting |
| 06:48.36 | Dagmar | they can't be observed directly because they generally blow up before you can find them |
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| 07:02.26 | Adys | Shirik: /home/adys/ksysguard/ksysguard/gui/ksysguard.cpp:256:84: error: cannot dynamic_cast â(((KXMLGUIClient*)this) + ((long unsigned int)(*(long int*)(((TopLevel*)this)->TopLevel::<anonymous>.KXmlGuiWindow::<anonymous>.KMainWindow::<anonymous>.QMainWindow::<anonymous>.QWidget::<anonymous>.QObject::_vptr.QObject + 0xffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffe8u))))->KXMLGUIClient::action(((const char*)"options_show_statusbar"))â (of type âclass QAction*â) to |
| 07:02.27 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:02.45 | Adys | Today: C++ says "fuck you" |
| 07:02.58 | Thunder_Child | only today? |
| 07:03.08 | Adys | did I say "only"? |
| 07:03.33 | Thunder_Child | no, but pointing out something that happens every day is...unusual |
| 07:04.48 | Adys | Actually that sounds like the definition of usual |
| 07:05.25 | cbreak-work | Adys: hmm? :) |
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| 07:05.42 | Adys | cbreak-work: nice pong, ive no idea what i needed you for anymore |
| 07:05.54 | Adys | cbreak: oh yeah, saw the Qt-Project announcements? |
| 07:05.57 | cbreak-work | you dared to slander C++? :) |
| 07:06.02 | Maldivia | heh |
| 07:06.03 | cbreak-work | anouncement? |
| 07:06.11 | Adys | yesterday's blog posts really |
| 07:06.14 | Adys | since it was announced before |
| 07:06.54 | cbreak-work | interesting. |
| 07:08.00 | cbreak-work | so Qt won't die. |
| 07:08.01 | cbreak-work | neat |
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| 07:13.39 | Adys | cbreak-work: yeah, I loved it |
| 07:13.53 | Adys | also, cleaning KDE apps in order to turn them into pure Qt feels like scrubbing a toilet |
| 07:14.19 | Adys | it's disgusting, you really don't wanna do it, and some of it doesn't really come off |
| 07:14.34 | Adys | and in the end its not that rewarding and you start wondering why the fuck you're doing that. |
| 07:14.35 | cbreak-work | oh. There are alternatives. |
| 07:14.38 | cbreak-work | do it the apple way |
| 07:14.45 | cbreak-work | throw the old stuff out and make everything new |
| 07:15.01 | Adys | im porting ksysguard and ksnapshot to pure-qt |
| 07:15.26 | Adys | i dont really understand why they are not already |
| 07:15.26 | Adys | but meh |
| 07:15.45 | cbreak-work | what are they now if not pure qt? |
| 07:15.52 | Adys | kde |
| 07:17.06 | Adys | So apparently KDE *requires* you to add "about" data to your app if you want it to parse command line args |
| 07:17.50 | Phelps | i have a fucking sleeping problem |
| 07:18.38 | Wobin | if you're sleeping while fucking, you certainly have a problem |
| 07:19.01 | Adys | I think thats fucksleeping |
| 07:19.03 | Phelps | that would be a "sleep fucking" |
| 07:19.07 | Phelps | problem |
| 07:19.14 | Adys | sleep fucking is fucking while sleeping |
| 07:19.17 | Adys | get your shit straight |
| 07:19.48 | Adys | it can also be a very rebellious attitude towards sleep |
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| 07:53.31 | Jamash | I wrote a script to port KDE apps |
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| 07:54.17 | Jamash | well, I call it a script, but it's more like a symlink to /bin/rm |
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| 08:20.32 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 08:20.36 | Fisker | hey hey |
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| 08:20.45 | Jamash | are you fat albert? |
| 08:21.18 | Fisker | more of a tired Fisker right now |
| 08:22.50 | Jamash | you should snuggle up with a warm book and a good dog, or something |
| 08:25.45 | karl_w_w | I dislike people who call frankfurters frankfurts |
| 08:27.37 | Kalroth | frank farts? |
| 08:32.30 | karl_w_w | does he? |
| 08:33.00 | Kalroth | frankly i do not know |
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| 09:55.03 | Adys | How do you say the fact that something is staying anonymous (as a freedom)? |
| 09:55.10 | Adys | nvm, anonymity |
| 09:58.22 | karl_w_w | no um |
| 09:59.15 | karl_w_w | anonymity is the level anonymousness |
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| 10:28.49 | [Wobin] | what's the context? |
| 10:28.55 | [Wobin] | "X is remaining anonymous" |
| 10:31.39 | Fisker | so |
| 10:31.44 | Fisker | i'm the sickest of sick [Wobin] |
| 10:35.16 | haste | you've been sick for weeks! |
| 10:39.20 | Fisker | months even haste |
| 10:39.43 | Fisker | i heard you're harboring terrorists haste |
| 10:39.55 | Jamash | Fisker: maybe you have space sickness |
| 10:40.17 | karl_w_w | you mean home sickness |
| 10:40.52 | karl_w_w | cos he comes from space you see so space is his home that's why it's home sickness see what I did there harhar? |
| 10:40.57 | Jamash | can one harbor terrorists if one does not have a harbor? |
| 10:41.05 | karl_w_w | no |
| 10:41.09 | Jamash | karl_w_w: you're saying that fisker is the last son of krypton? |
| 10:41.14 | karl_w_w | because harbour has a fucking u in it |
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| 10:41.28 | Jamash | welcome to our harbor |
| 10:41.33 | Jamash | notice that it does not have u in it |
| 10:41.35 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 10:41.38 | Jamash | please keep it that way |
| 10:41.39 | karl_w_w | yo mean or harbor? |
| 10:41.43 | Fisker | i had sex with your mother's harbor |
| 10:41.53 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 10:41.57 | Jamash | that's anatomically unlikely |
| 10:42.04 | Fisker | nah |
| 10:42.09 | Jamash | or is it |
| 10:42.22 | Jamash | or... ISN'T IT |
| 10:42.24 | Fisker | your mom is the biggest object observed in the known universe |
| 10:42.47 | karl_w_w | by weight or size? |
| 10:43.11 | Fisker | both |
| 10:43.11 | Jamash | look just because you have her picture on the inside of your lens cap... |
| 10:43.17 | karl_w_w | impossible |
| 10:43.23 | Fisker | never karl_w_w |
| 10:43.49 | Jamash | an object the size of the universe would balance its own gravity out by wrapping around and thus have no weight |
| 10:44.04 | Jamash | therefore you fail at the difference between mass and weight |
| 10:44.42 | Jamash | ALSO |
| 10:44.48 | Jamash | MY D20 HAS SHIPPED |
| 10:44.58 | Fisker | i never said it was the size of the universe LOL |
| 10:45.05 | karl_w_w | diablo 20 is out already? |
| 10:45.13 | Jamash | CANCEL DEFCON ONE |
| 10:45.30 | Fisker | yes karl_w_w |
| 10:45.57 | karl_w_w | well, blizz really are releasing content faster |
| 10:46.10 | Jamash | it's an icosahedron of content |
| 10:46.16 | Jamash | also it glows in the dark |
| 10:47.00 | karl_w_w | ohhh, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_towed_gun-howitzer_M1955_%28D-20%29 ? |
| 10:47.03 | karl_w_w | that's boss |
| 10:47.12 | karl_w_w | where can I get one? |
| 10:47.46 | Jamash | the soviet union |
| 10:47.49 | Jamash | l2infobox |
| 10:48.56 | karl_w_w | you mean I have to go back in time? hmm challenging |
| 10:49.09 | Jamash | if kane can do it, so can you! |
| 10:49.21 | Jamash | although I think a building fell on him or something |
| 10:50.35 | Jamash | He who conquers the past controls the future, or something |
| 10:52.53 | Fisker | have you ever killled a guy with your bare arms Jamash ? |
| 10:53.53 | Jamash | I can't comment on current or past operations that may or may not have occurred |
| 10:58.29 | Fisker | but i thought it was a right to kill people with bare arms? |
| 10:59.27 | karl_w_w | you mean a fight Fisker |
| 10:59.28 | Jamash | I haven't read it recently but I'm pretty sure the 3rd amendment doesn't mention killing people with bare arms |
| 10:59.40 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 11:02.45 | Fisker | i wonder what a free Fisker should do |
| 11:03.06 | Jamash | make lemonade |
| 11:03.22 | Fisker | nah |
| 11:03.24 | Fisker | that's boring |
| 11:03.30 | Jamash | FIND A NEW GOD |
| 11:04.14 | Fisker | i don't have a go |
| 11:04.15 | Fisker | god |
| 11:04.24 | Jamash | THAT'S WHY YOU NEED A NEW ONE |
| 11:04.55 | airtonix | hey Fisker |
| 11:05.45 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 11:05.47 | Fisker | umad? |
| 11:05.55 | airtonix | depends |
| 11:05.57 | airtonix | umad? |
| 11:06.09 | Jamash | mad bromance? |
| 11:06.16 | airtonix | hey Jamash |
| 11:06.21 | airtonix | ubrony? |
| 11:06.25 | Fisker | nah |
| 11:06.27 | Fisker | bad bromance |
| 11:06.36 | Jamash | bronymance |
| 11:08.14 | Jamash | last of the brohicans |
| 11:10.14 | airtonix | bro alone? |
| 11:10.42 | Jamash | don't bro alone, take this |
| 11:11.35 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 11:13.12 | airtonix | bro back mountain |
| 11:13.18 | airtonix | hoho |
| 11:22.30 | Jamash | wherever you bro, there you are |
| 11:23.04 | airtonix | wut |
| 11:23.58 | Jamash | surely you've seen brockaroo bronzai across the eighth dimension? |
| 11:25.08 | Jamash | featuring jeff goldbrom? |
| 11:27.26 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 11:27.47 | Jamash | Fiskerpony |
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| 11:59.22 | ex0a | anyone know where i can contact someone from the LUI crew? |
| 12:00.07 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14130-LUIv3.html#comments ? |
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| 12:09.30 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=192222 |
| 12:09.39 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=58809 |
| 12:09.41 | bluspacecow | author links :P |
| 12:11.33 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 12:11.35 | Fisker | however bye |
| 12:12.05 | bluspacecow | debating having a little gander at minecraft 1.8 vidoes tonight |
| 12:12.19 | airtonix | why |
| 12:12.24 | airtonix | just install it? |
| 12:13.57 | airtonix | http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/landing/lg_mouse_scanner?cmpdt=20110912&cmpcr=LG_Mouse_Scanner&cmptp=HPB&cmpprv=HPB&cmplnk=frame1 |
| 12:14.21 | foxlit | meh, wowi |
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| 12:14.45 | foxlit | login through https, continue session through http. |
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| 12:14.52 | airtonix | fail |
| 12:15.56 | airtonix | hey foxlit, i'm stealing your session cookies on wifi |
| 12:16.02 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:16.49 | bluspacecow | :| |
| 12:17.15 | bluspacecow | just tried it now it's giving me a bad video card drivers error. i'm at work btw |
| 12:17.25 | airtonix | wut? |
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| 12:18.30 | bluspacecow | they updated to windows 7 here |
| 12:18.43 | bluspacecow | worked fine when they had XP on these computers. |
| 12:18.46 | airtonix | so you must be mad |
| 12:19.00 | bluspacecow | yea |
| 12:19.02 | bluspacecow | i mad |
| 12:19.04 | bluspacecow | i mud |
| 12:19.08 | airtonix | yeah i would be mad too |
| 12:19.14 | bluspacecow | *spreads dirt on self* |
| 12:19.40 | airtonix | because i would have said "why the fuck did you waste all that money on an overseas company when you could have spent it on me instead" |
| 12:20.56 | bluspacecow | no wonder minecraft isn't working ,.... this work computer's drivers is from Jul 2009 :\ |
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| 12:23.54 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 12:24.05 | bluspacecow | yes? |
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| 12:24.14 | Fisker | bye bluspacecow |
| 12:24.20 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 12:24.32 | bluspacecow | don't forget your raincoat |
| 12:24.35 | airtonix | umad Fisker? |
| 12:24.38 | bluspacecow | its 80 degress out there |
| 12:28.06 | ex0a | karl_w_w & bluspacecow: ty - curse client prompted me to update my LUI core and when doing so I can't even load the game even after moving the LUI folder out of the addons dir, so evidently it's made some changes in my cache dir or something that causes the game to crash at about 30% through the loading screen |
| 12:29.22 | ex0a | but i never realized how much smoother the game played on my crappy onboard graphics without LUI so i'm probably going to say this was for the best anyway and reinstall the rest of my addons |
| 12:29.50 | ex0a | go back to a more stock setting so there isn't so much stuff on my screen during raids etc |
| 12:43.24 | karl_w_w | I doubt there is a ui pack out there that is worth it |
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| 12:47.03 | ex0a | LUI looks neat i'll give it that - and some of the features are really handy, but i didn't realize how much it taxed my gfx card |
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| 12:53.26 | foxlit | "how much it taxed my gfx card" << wait, what> |
| 12:53.29 | foxlit | ? |
| 12:53.51 | zenzio | foxlit: context? |
| 12:55.16 | alestane | As a general rule, whatever a UI pack might be taxing, it's not your graphics card. |
| 12:55.55 | Phelps | just CPU |
| 12:56.02 | Phelps | and ram if they are badly written |
| 12:56.28 | foxlit | zenzio: one line above me |
| 12:56.58 | zenzio | foxlit: I noticed afterwards... failed to read up |
| 12:59.01 | Phelps | jsut drag & share |
| 12:59.14 | Phelps | they dont say you gotta drag it at a constant speed or you get ripples |
| 12:59.32 | Phelps | and its almost impossible for humans to do with one hand |
| 12:59.53 | Phelps | and you gotta drag it slow as hell |
| 13:00.55 | bluspacecow | hey guys what URL do you guys get when going to the web page www.diablo3.com ? |
| 13:01.13 | Phelps | http://us.battle.net/d3/en/ |
| 13:01.18 | bluspacecow | ty ty |
| 13:09.24 | ex0a | well when LUI was disabled my framerate seemed to be higher |
| 13:09.48 | ex0a | and it's not my cpu or ram as i have 8gb ram and a 2.8ghz x6 processor |
| 13:12.58 | zenzio | just because you have a fast CPU doesn't mean it can't still be a factor |
| 13:14.30 | airtonix | http://veditor.plopbyte.net/ |
| 13:16.31 | ex0a | zenzio: okay, well i'm going to go on a limb and say that i doubt my fast cpu is the bottleneck compared to my low-end onboard graphics |
| 13:17.08 | zenzio | ex0a: I'm not saying it's necessarily the culprit, but WoW is a much more CPU-intensive than GPU-intensive game |
| 13:17.39 | ex0a | i can run all the cpu intesive settings on max, though i don't (view distance etc) |
| 13:17.47 | ex0a | intensive even |
| 13:18.28 | ex0a | i actually don't like the view distance being maxed out with crappy graphics settings because it makes the stuff in the distance look like wc3 |
| 13:18.35 | airtonix | http://www.ro.me/tech |
| 13:18.52 | zenzio | for some reason I keep reading your name as a hex value; even though the "e" wouldn't fit |
| 13:21.01 | ex0a | hahah |
| 13:21.31 | alestane | Also, WoW is basically single-threaded. You pretty much have one core as far as WoW performance goes. |
| 13:22.53 | alestane | And large collections of add-ons, especially ones not written with an eye for performance, can easily have a substantial impact on CPU performance. The only add-ons that tax your GPU much are the ones that using moving portraits or figures for all your unit frames. |
| 13:25.13 | zenzio | ex0a: not sure if I missed something; what is LUI? |
| 13:31.11 | ex0a | it's a ui mod |
| 13:31.22 | ex0a | comes packed with several other addons |
| 13:31.34 | ex0a | bartender, omen, recount, etc |
| 13:31.36 | zenzio | ah, a compilation of some sort |
| 13:32.11 | ex0a | but the default way that like omen and recount are interfaced with the ui are different |
| 13:32.20 | ex0a | it's a very clean looking ui |
| 13:32.31 | ex0a | modelled after starcraft 2 iirc |
| 13:34.57 | airtonix | hey ex0a |
| 13:35.30 | airtonix | omen and recount are so 90s |
| 13:35.52 | airtonix | like kylie minogue |
| 13:36.00 | Kalroth | kylie is still hot though |
| 13:36.09 | airtonix | that's what you think |
| 13:36.17 | airtonix | if you're attracted to stick figures |
| 13:36.30 | airtonix | and i won't hold that against you |
| 13:36.58 | Kalroth | well she got money, boobies and a vagina |
| 13:37.04 | Kalroth | all good qualities for a woman |
| 13:37.12 | ex0a | airtonix: i don't use omen but i like recount |
| 13:37.48 | ex0a | been using it since like 1994 ;) |
| 13:37.53 | Kalroth | imagine if omen or recount looked like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_oigT0GOX_oY/TUmeD7pf_DI/AAAAAAAAA10/lSKq6SuCPNk/s1600/The-best-top-desktop-kylie-minogue-wallpapers-kylie-minogue-wallpaper-hd-2.jpg |
| 13:38.04 | airtonix | ex0a: then stop whinging about performance |
| 13:38.42 | ex0a | i'm not whinging about performance.. i was saying that my performance improved after LUI core update fucked my install |
| 13:38.55 | airtonix | guess why |
| 13:38.56 | ex0a | and it was disabled |
| 13:39.07 | ex0a | but recount, bt, etc all those were still enabled |
| 13:39.29 | airtonix | i don't care i was watching star trek, your argument is invalid |
| 13:40.16 | ex0a | anyway |
| 13:40.19 | airtonix | real men gather stastistics by counting broken tree branches |
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| 13:51.08 | starlon | why not count bones? |
| 13:51.16 | starlon | tree branches get sap all over you |
| 13:51.23 | airtonix | not when they're dead |
| 13:51.27 | airtonix | and dry |
| 13:51.36 | airtonix | bones aren't as common either |
| 13:51.55 | starlon | count pencils |
| 13:52.26 | airtonix | not enough |
| 13:52.55 | starlon | hugs a tree. |
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| 13:57.02 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/cAUGo - teabagging |
| 13:57.51 | zenzio | we used to have a guy who drank tea at work; he'd tie two tea bags together and hang them on someone's monitor |
| 13:59.19 | krka | don't leave your uncle t-bag hanging |
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| 14:16.21 | foxlit | wth, Carriers?! |
| 14:17.15 | foxlit | must be the first time I've seen those in a ladder match in months. |
| 14:18.14 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: watch out, next comes the mothership |
| 14:19.06 | Fisker | i saw someone crash foxlit |
| 14:19.10 | Fisker | i watched him die |
| 14:28.04 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 14:28.06 | alestane | foxlit: link? |
| 14:28.18 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:29.58 | airtonix | Fisker: why would you do that |
| 14:30.13 | Fisker | because i couldn't not watch? |
| 14:31.07 | foxlit | ... and a terran going command center before rax |
| 14:31.21 | Fisker | 5 supply into CC imo |
| 14:32.08 | bluspacecow | lolz fisker |
| 14:32.13 | bluspacecow | double negative there |
| 14:32.22 | Fisker | oh really bluspacecow ? |
| 14:32.37 | bluspacecow | "couldn't not watch" |
| 14:32.41 | bluspacecow | double negative there |
| 14:32.46 | bluspacecow | meaning you want to watch |
| 14:32.48 | Fisker | yes bluspacecow |
| 14:32.51 | bluspacecow | *butt wiggle* |
| 14:32.52 | Fisker | no |
| 14:32.56 | Fisker | meaning i could only watch |
| 14:32.58 | Fisker | l2p bluspacecow |
| 14:33.39 | airtonix | hey fisker, have you heard about the bag lady |
| 14:34.07 | airtonix | when you're about to close fifth base and the grope reveals colostomy technology |
| 14:34.14 | airtonix | Fisker: what do you do? |
| 14:34.26 | Fisker | idk airtonix |
| 14:34.28 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:34.31 | Fisker | you called? |
| 14:35.28 | Stanzilla | nope |
| 14:35.48 | bluspacecow | <--- still singing out loud to his ipod at work |
| 14:35.51 | Stanzilla | i'm not vodafone who calls me every day at 8am to get me to sign a new contract |
| 14:35.54 | Stanzilla | so annoying :< |
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| 14:41.56 | alestane | Do `backticks` have some special meaning in SQL, or are the just quotes? |
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| 14:48.06 | tlund | mysql seems to use ` to quote databases, tables and colums, while it uses ' to quote text strings. |
| 14:48.23 | bluspacecow | oh this again |
| 14:48.30 | bluspacecow | thinking back to last night |
| 14:48.46 | bluspacecow | where i confused ' with '' for imperial measurements |
| 14:48.54 | bluspacecow | one is feet the other is inches :D |
| 14:49.25 | Fisker | oh ok Stanzilla |
| 14:49.30 | Fisker | why don't you sign a new contract? |
| 14:49.36 | Fisker | also why don't we beta some Diablo 3? |
| 14:50.12 | Stanzilla | because i dont want/need to and good question! |
| 14:50.59 | Fisker | http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/10279/z10279520Q,Diablo-V.jpg |
| 14:51.02 | Fisker | fuck Diablo 3 really |
| 14:51.03 | bluspacecow | liar fisker |
| 14:51.07 | Fisker | i want asian Diablo V |
| 14:51.13 | bluspacecow | you has no D3's |
| 14:51.24 | Fisker | i didn't say i did |
| 14:51.30 | Fisker | also Stanzilla you really should! |
| 14:51.37 | Fisker | they always have your best interests at heart and so forth |
| 14:51.59 | Stanzilla | yeah always! |
| 14:53.59 | Fisker | i actually hate you Stanzilla |
| 14:54.09 | Fisker | because our phone provider wants to give my dad a new contract |
| 14:54.11 | Fisker | half the price |
| 14:54.17 | Fisker | and still covers his needs just great |
| 14:54.18 | Fisker | but he's like |
| 14:54.25 | Fisker | "DEM CORPORATIONS DEY HAXING U" |
| 14:54.47 | Stanzilla | haha |
| 14:54.59 | Torhal|work | Fisker: That's what happens when you troll your own parents. |
| 14:55.09 | Fisker | no u? |
| 14:55.54 | Torhal|work | makes Fiskerkebab. |
| 14:58.18 | cog|away | Tuesday, Tuesday, wow is up on Tuesday |
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| 14:59.03 | cog|away | Gonna earn some marks from my dailies, dailies |
| 15:00.05 | Torhal|work | freaks the hell out. |
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| 15:53.19 | cog|away | sorry i killed the channel |
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| 16:07.26 | Fisker | no problem cog|work |
| 16:07.57 | bluspacecow | fiskery fisker |
| 16:08.38 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 16:08.47 | bluspacecow | hi! |
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| 16:33.54 | starlon | red bull gives you penguin wings. no flying for you |
| 16:36.50 | Lopeppeppy | Penguins can fly. |
| 16:37.04 | Kraps_w | in the water |
| 16:37.09 | Lopeppeppy | especially if they're high on red bull |
| 16:37.23 | Kraps_w | launch them out of a canon? |
| 16:38.38 | Kraps_w | i got to work an hour ago and its almost lunchtime hurr durr |
| 16:39.18 | Lopeppeppy | crazy talk |
| 16:39.41 | Kraps_w | inorite |
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| 16:44.37 | bluspacecow | ! |
| 16:44.41 | bluspacecow | its a peppy ! |
| 16:44.44 | bluspacecow | when you get here ? |
| 16:45.03 | alestane | 12:22 Lopeppeppy has joined (~Lopeppepp@141.222.30.166) |
| 16:45.46 | bluspacecow | hmmm 23 minutes ago in other words |
| 16:46.06 | Lunessa | prepares the penguin-pult to launch penguins into orbit. |
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| 16:46.35 | starlon | 12:37 < Kraps_w> launch them out of a canon? -- LOL |
| 16:47.36 | Lopeppeppy | I have class on Tues/Thurs mornngs now, so I won't get in until lunchtime or later. |
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| 16:49.20 | zenzelezz | http://wasteaguid.info/ ... I don't understand the favicon's relevance |
| 16:49.45 | Lopeppeppy | it made them happy? |
| 16:50.43 | Lunessa | Happy Programmer's Day everyone. |
| 16:52.00 | zenzelezz | probably the worst thing about the Internet is how now every day is <X> Day, for any random subject |
| 16:52.18 | Ackis | Fisker: there's a problem with mmo-champ blue tracker, who do I tell? |
| 16:53.06 | Kraps_w | starlon: its the only viable option |
| 16:53.08 | Lunessa | Tomorrow is Whiner's Day |
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| 16:53.52 | Kraps_w | i love that day! |
| 16:54.25 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: doesn't matter, I'm opposed to all of them |
| 16:54.40 | Lunessa | Awesome. I won't get you a card then. |
| 16:54.58 | Lunessa | (please note, I'm being satirical) |
| 16:55.12 | zenzelezz | no wai |
| 16:55.20 | Lunessa | inorite? |
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| 16:58.11 | zenzelezz | "Two patents that chip designer Rambus used to win patent lawsuits against Nvidia, HP, and others have been declared invalid by the USPTO." - interesting... |
| 16:58.22 | haste | yay patents! |
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| 17:02.21 | Kraps_w | GET READY. GET MAD. http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2448-Firelands-Raid-Changes-Incoming?page=49#comments |
| 17:02.37 | bluspacecow | umad? |
| 17:03.08 | Kraps_w | theymad |
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| 17:03.25 | Kraps_w | almost 1k comments already |
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| 17:03.38 | Adys | Kraps: i dont see anyone mad. |
| 17:03.42 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, nerf!! |
| 17:03.53 | Adys | and the first comment on that page makes the only sensible point to make |
| 17:04.54 | Kraps_w | i accidentally the last page |
| 17:05.06 | Fisker | old Kraps_w |
| 17:05.23 | Lunessa | Comment #3 is ⦠bang on. :) |
| 17:05.52 | Fisker | indeed Lunessa |
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| 17:08.19 | olafski | adys: I liked simca's comment on the first page :D |
| 17:08.50 | Arrowmaster | yay UPS package arrived! https://plus.google.com/117037955364932594362/posts/esbJN8VVDUN |
| 17:09.25 | olafski | four oh four yo |
| 17:09.25 | Kraps_w | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/197636/blizzcon-travel-101-flying-in-the-us |
| 17:09.25 | Adys | http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2011/09/dash-googles-alternative-to-javascript.html |
| 17:09.28 | Adys | CALLED it |
| 17:09.45 | Arrowmaster | olafski: are you not in my extended circles? |
| 17:09.58 | olafski | apparently not :) |
| 17:10.09 | olafski | adys: do you think this will work? completely replacing javascript |
| 17:10.21 | olafski | I have a feeling microsoft (and maybe mozilla too) will not be very cooperative :] |
| 17:11.02 | Adys | olafski: why wouldn't they be? |
| 17:11.05 | olafski | I downloaded a Tracy Island map from fileplanet btw.. some people are crazy :D but it was very well done |
| 17:11.11 | Adys | i mean mozilla perhaps |
| 17:11.20 | Adys | but dont see why ms wouldnt be cooperative |
| 17:11.39 | olafski | no clue.. it doesn't sound like something microsoft would do, agree with google.. but I don't know all the facts, only skimmed the article |
| 17:12.10 | Kraps_w | "If you have a tight connection.. book a seat closer to the front of the aircraft. This will get you off the plane 5-10 minutes before the person in the back of the plane and can be very valuable time on a tight connection. " |
| 17:12.18 | Kraps_w | minmaxing ftw |
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| 17:12.41 | Adys | olafski: ms doesn't disagree with google for the sake of disagreeing nowadays |
| 17:12.43 | olafski | I think it's a very ambitious project anyway :) wonder what kind of time frame they have planned for replacing javascript |
| 17:12.46 | Lopeppeppy | Or tell your flight attendant, and they'll call ahead for you. |
| 17:12.53 | Adys | it is, and i wonder too |
| 17:13.01 | Kraps_w | Lopeppeppy: tell what? |
| 17:13.07 | olafski | I mean people still use IE6 |
| 17:13.18 | olafski | but I guess you can fix that with some modernizr type things |
| 17:13.50 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: exactly! when I went to blizzcon last we were at the back of the plane but they let everyone off who had a connection first... had to run through the airport :( |
| 17:14.13 | Lopeppeppy | Say onto your flight attendant, when the plane is in flight, "I have a tight connection to make in Detroit. Can you help me deplane faster when we get there, or maybe help alert the airport that there's someone coming in with a connection issue?" |
| 17:14.31 | Kraps_w | oh cool, you can do that? |
| 17:14.38 | nevcairiel | like the airport cares, everyone has a connection issue |
| 17:14.42 | Dagmar | It's probably important to remember that if they try to book you a connection with less than 20 minutes between gates, that this is against industry regulations and you should probably say "No thanks" unless you like the idea of being stranded for hours. |
| 17:15.13 | Dagmar | There is no charge for changing the ticket if this has been done or your arrival puts you inside that 20 minute window |
| 17:15.13 | Ackis | nevcairiel: not everyone has a connection |
| 17:15.42 | Lopeppeppy | You can certainly talk to them, Kraps, and see if they can do anything. Or talk to the ticket agent at your first airport and see what they know about conditions ahead, etc. |
| 17:15.58 | Lopeppeppy | In flight, call ahead to the airport yourself! :) |
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| 17:16.34 | Dagmar | *No signal* |
| 17:16.50 | Dagmar | 747's tend to be in range of very few cell towers. ;) |
| 17:17.03 | Dagmar | Line of sight they have tons of tho. ;) |
| 17:17.04 | olafski | knowing that, I'd book a seat near the front anyway so I could get out, even without a connection.. why stay in an airplane longer than necessary :P |
| 17:18.12 | Ackis | statistically you have a better chance of survival near the rear of the plane |
| 17:18.31 | olafski | meh |
| 17:18.42 | olafski | if I'm gonna crash I'd rather die quickly |
| 17:18.57 | Fisker | bt |
| 17:18.58 | olafski | would rather not fly though :P |
| 17:18.59 | Fisker | btw |
| 17:19.02 | Fisker | i no longer need my Diablo 3 beta |
| 17:19.06 | Fisker | Windows 8 Beta tonight |
| 17:19.24 | Ackis | olafski: I'm driving to blizzcon :D |
| 17:19.32 | olafski | :) |
| 17:19.32 | Fisker | pff |
| 17:19.35 | Fisker | dash is dead Adys |
| 17:19.42 | Ackis | dash? |
| 17:19.47 | olafski | the way I understood the metro/"classic" windows thing btw, is that both were just an app, not that "classic" is an app over metro |
| 17:19.49 | Ackis | is uncomfortable on airplanes |
| 17:19.54 | Fisker | Sinofsky just said you can make apps in any fucking language |
| 17:19.57 | Fisker | except dash |
| 17:19.58 | Arrowmaster | the dash name is already taken, they need to rename it |
| 17:20.03 | Adys | they did |
| 17:20.06 | Adys | they renamed it Dart |
| 17:20.17 | Kraps_w | someone on npr said being on an airplane is almost safer than staying home |
| 17:20.25 | Fisker | i wonder if Blizzard has disputed dota yet |
| 17:20.31 | Adys | also whats dash taken by? i remember something but i cant figure out what |
| 17:20.33 | olafski | probably kraps_w :P I still don't like it though |
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| 17:20.50 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:21.02 | Kraps_w | old Lunessa |
| 17:21.14 | foxlit | Fisker: why aren't you waiting for Windows 10.8 beta instead? |
| 17:21.17 | Lunessa | You kids, get off my lawn |
| 17:21.22 | Fisker | why would i? |
| 17:21.33 | foxlit | 10.8 > 8, clearly |
| 17:22.00 | Fisker | i doubt it |
| 17:23.04 | foxlit | in unrelated news: hurray for paracetamol. |
| 17:24.04 | zenzelezz | headache? Or am I misremembering what that's for |
| 17:26.44 | foxlit | relieves all sorts of flu-related crappiness. |
| 17:27.07 | zenzelezz | oh, right |
| 17:27.28 | zenzelezz | I tend to get paracetamol and ibuprofen confused |
| 17:27.52 | Kraps_w | ibuprofen is awesome |
| 17:28.16 | zenzelezz | it's what I stick to for headaches anyhow |
| 17:28.30 | olafski | don't they both do about the same? |
| 17:28.38 | olafski | I use them interchangably (interchangeably?) |
| 17:28.49 | Kraps_w | interchangeably |
| 17:28.53 | zenzelezz | olafski: that's why I was asking about paracetamol; I can never remember |
| 17:29.05 | Kraps_w | says firefox spell check |
| 17:29.17 | olafski | I just call them painkiller |
| 17:29.23 | olafski | hey ackis |
| 17:29.28 | olafski | my fixed toenail is growing back again |
| 17:29.29 | foxlit | but, see, I don't think that descrption is accurate |
| 17:30.39 | Ackis | sucks to be you olafski |
| 17:31.09 | olafski | I know right |
| 17:31.21 | olafski | maybe I'll just ask them to cut off the toe, that should do it |
| 17:31.33 | foxlit | who needs toes, anyway? |
| 17:32.41 | Kraps_w | not answering that |
| 17:33.45 | Kraps_w | i am sad that my radio doesnt get tv anymore |
| 17:41.01 | olafski | well I guess I need toes but I can probably do with 9, foxlit ;) |
| 17:42.36 | Kraps_w | every seen Payback? |
| 17:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | Paycheck was an interesting movie, even if I think Benny Boy sucks. |
| 17:43.03 | Kraps_w | mel gibson gets his toes smashed |
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| 17:44.40 | Ackis | ugh I forgot to wear sock today :( |
| 17:45.15 | Kraps_w | how is that possible |
| 17:45.24 | Ackis | slept in, was in a rush |
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| 18:00.16 | kd3|netbook | ugh; validating phone numbers using regex |
| 18:00.18 | kd3|netbook | grrs |
| 18:00.46 | cbreak | that sounds very inefficient |
| 18:01.09 | cbreak | considering those things are essentially variable length prefix free routing codes |
| 18:01.19 | kd3|netbook | it was an assignment. "validate a us 7-or-10 digit phone number using a regex" |
| 18:02.07 | cbreak | oh, us phone numbers. |
| 18:02.15 | cbreak | they all start with 555 and then 4 digits. easy. |
| 18:02.23 | cbreak | has watched US Movies. |
| 18:02.52 | Kraps_w | i punch u cbreak |
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| 18:04.38 | Fisker | kd3|netbook |
| 18:04.52 | Fisker | i have found a new beta to drool over |
| 18:04.56 | kd3|netbook | ooh |
| 18:04.59 | Fisker | Blizzard lost my interest :( |
| 18:05.08 | Fisker | Windows 8 developer preview ftw |
| 18:07.08 | Dagmar | You should get it, and then throw a fit on their forums about how it's so buggy they should be ashamed |
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| 18:14.52 | Stanzilla | Fisker: ~9h till download! |
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| 18:21.45 | bluspacecow | kk i go homes nows |
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| 18:22.11 | Fisker | yeah Stanzilla |
| 18:22.13 | Fisker | need someone to leak it |
| 18:22.16 | Fisker | can't play tomorrow |
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| 18:41.20 | Thunder_Child | i love how the D3 launcher says 'Launching Blizzard Launcher' |
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| 18:51.58 | Fisker | how so Thunder_Child ? |
| 18:53.23 | Stanzilla | 8hours Fisker |
| 18:53.35 | Fisker | yup Stanzilla |
| 18:53.37 | Fisker | umad? |
| 18:53.46 | Stanzilla | nah |
| 18:53.48 | Stanzilla | well |
| 18:53.53 | Stanzilla | imad but because of ragnaros |
| 18:53.58 | Stanzilla | we just wiped at 300k hp |
| 18:54.33 | Kraps_w | wipes like that are amazing |
| 18:54.57 | Fisker | NOTE: The preview build does not include every feature shown this morning. Shown but not in the Developer Preview release include the Windows Store, Windows Live Metro style apps, and some of the user interface features. The focus of the preview is the API and development tools for building Metro style apps. |
| 18:55.00 | Fisker | i hope they're not dicks |
| 18:55.19 | Fisker | i thought Ragnaros died at 10% |
| 18:55.27 | Fisker | or doesn't that happen on heroic? |
| 18:55.45 | Kraps_w | the numbers are going down so fast youd think that 300k wouldnt be a problem even if there was trouble and then bam |
| 18:56.18 | Fisker | half the team could've died at 1m HP |
| 18:56.26 | Kraps_w | true |
| 18:58.07 | nevcairiel | will the windows developer preview be freely available to anyone? |
| 18:59.06 | Fisker | yes nevcairiel |
| 18:59.14 | Fisker | i wish they would just release it already |
| 18:59.21 | Fisker | do not want to wait until tomorrow |
| 18:59.24 | Fisker | it's a dick move |
| 18:59.26 | Fisker | for free |
| 18:59.32 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: because it is redundant |
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| 18:59.56 | durcyn | what kind of idiot wants to use a microsoft beta |
| 19:00.05 | Kraps_w | Fisker: write a strongly-worded letter |
| 19:00.08 | Fisker | nah Thunder_Child |
| 19:00.13 | nevcairiel | I dont want to use it, but i develop windows stuff |
| 19:00.13 | pb_ee1 | People who wants to improve the product |
| 19:00.18 | Fisker | One is the Diablo 3 Launcher the other is the Blizzard Launcher |
| 19:00.23 | nevcairiel | its a developer preview, for developers |
| 19:00.24 | nevcairiel | duh |
| 19:00.43 | nevcairiel | also, thats why some smart dude invented VMs |
| 19:00.44 | durcyn | fisker doesn't code |
| 19:01.03 | Kraps_w | i had the vista beta |
| 19:01.13 | Fisker | says who durcyn ? |
| 19:01.26 | Kraps_w | fucking nightmare |
| 19:01.40 | durcyn | you're a full time troll, we all know this |
| 19:01.54 | Fisker | i'm not trolling now |
| 19:01.55 | Fisker | you are |
| 19:01.59 | Fisker | so that leaves us where? |
| 19:02.37 | durcyn | give it a minute |
| 19:02.46 | Fisker | fulltime is fulltime durcyn |
| 19:03.32 | nevcairiel | fulltime just means 8 hour a day, duh |
| 19:04.01 | Fisker | naw nevcairiel |
| 19:08.35 | Stanzilla | down |
| 19:08.36 | Stanzilla | wohooooooooo |
| 19:10.35 | Fisker | what Stanzilla ? |
| 19:10.40 | Fisker | you getting me into the D3 beta? |
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| 19:10.58 | nevcairiel | you dont need D3 beta anymore, you have W8 now |
| 19:11.30 | Stanzilla | ragnaros heroic :) |
| 19:12.13 | Fisker | not yet nevcairiel |
| 19:12.18 | Fisker | baw Stanzilla |
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| 19:27.23 | Stanzilla | man what a relief |
| 19:32.01 | Kraps_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.32 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 19:32.43 | Shirik | omg |
| 19:32.47 | Shirik | kills stock market |
| 19:33.18 | Shirik | I set an alert to notify me when a stock approaches my sell target (80.51 for COST). It hit it today. Then jumped down 30 seconds. So I'm like "fine" and I set up the alert again, because it goes away after it's triggered. |
| 19:33.22 | Shirik | 3 minutes later, it triggers again |
| 19:33.30 | Kraps_w | the recession is Shirik's fault |
| 19:33.34 | Shirik | jumped down 30 points* |
| 19:34.14 | Shirik | hey |
| 19:34.15 | Shirik | I'm a buyer |
| 19:34.20 | Shirik | I push up the prices |
| 19:34.23 | Shirik | not take them down |
| 19:34.33 | Kraps_w | sure sure |
| 19:34.36 | Shirik | Well except for best buy |
| 19:34.48 | Shirik | I got rid of that shit last night I was sure their earnings were going to be bad |
| 19:35.18 | Kraps_w | so you day trade |
| 19:35.26 | Shirik | no |
| 19:35.29 | Dagmar | Vegas has more strippers |
| 19:35.39 | Shirik | I held best buy for like |
| 19:35.42 | Shirik | 4-5 years |
| 19:35.55 | Shirik | sad thing is I still came out with a $140 capital loss :P |
| 19:36.02 | Kraps_w | lol |
| 19:36.09 | Shirik | but better than the $400 or whatever it would have been today |
| 19:36.33 | clever | i just ran filemon on wow to see why its taking so long to startup/shutdown |
| 19:36.46 | clever | its appending to the savedvariable files, 5 bytes at a time |
| 19:36.54 | foxlit | have you considered going into professional gambling? |
| 19:37.15 | clever | they forgot to implement any kind of userspace write buffering/merging |
| 19:37.43 | Shirik | foxlit: There aren't any technical indicators in gambling |
| 19:38.02 | Shirik | The stock market is easy. Do what everyone else isn't doing. |
| 19:38.09 | foxlit | you're describing poker. |
| 19:39.23 | Kraps_w | shirk has a terrible poker face |
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| 19:43.10 | clever | Shirik: you know what i mean about writing such small ammounts being slow/bad? |
| 19:43.21 | Shirik | huh? |
| 19:43.49 | Shirik | yes but why do you bring this up to me? |
| 19:43.58 | clever | just looking for somebody to answer! |
| 19:44.19 | clever | just seems like such a stupid mistake that blizzard would have fixed it ages ago |
| 19:45.48 | Torhal|work | clever: There are 6-year-old UI bugs. |
| 19:46.06 | Kraps_w | blizzard is stupid |
| 19:46.11 | Kraps_w | the worst |
| 19:46.11 | clever | just open-source the damn thing so i we can fix it :P |
| 19:46.23 | Lunessa | It's not that big a deal in most cases. The default client doesn't need to write that much. |
| 19:46.37 | clever | Lunessa: it spend several minutes writing a 200kb file |
| 19:46.46 | clever | because it was doing it 5 bytes at a time |
| 19:47.06 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 19:47.07 | Lunessa | I'm just saying that it's not important enough to get much attention. |
| 19:47.11 | Shirik | I might get an assignment today too |
| 19:47.12 | foxlit | ... reloading does not take several minutes |
| 19:47.19 | Shirik | and I was only 3 days away :( |
| 19:47.27 | clever | the problem is mainly at shutdown time |
| 19:47.35 | clever | as it saves everything back to disk |
| 19:47.44 | Shirik | also, clever, you trust developers too much |
| 19:47.50 | Stanzilla | http://up.nerdvz.de/files/c6027b-WoWScrnShot_091311_210826.jpg :) |
| 19:47.52 | clever | and whats more anoying, is that it shows no sign of shuting down until its done saving |
| 19:47.54 | Shirik | I know people that work on aircraft that I bet would think that's perfectly fine |
| 19:47.56 | clever | so if i DC at all, it just silently hangs |
| 19:48.03 | Shirik | "so long as it works" |
| 19:48.06 | clever | lol |
| 19:48.34 | clever | ok, thats the 3rd time i accepted the agreements |
| 19:49.09 | Lunessa | Shirik: *nod* clever They're never going to open source the game client code. That's madness for their business model. |
| 19:49.42 | clever | yeah, you would need a restrictive licenses to keep things safe |
| 19:49.44 | Shirik | soon we're not going to have clients anymore |
| 19:49.52 | Shirik | everything's going to be in the cloud |
| 19:49.59 | clever | shakes his head |
| 19:50.34 | Kraps_w | how old is sarah michelle geller? |
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| 19:50.38 | clever | disabling EVERY addon has solved the lockup at login issue |
| 19:50.38 | durcyn | thin clients over the internet, what could go wrong |
| 19:50.50 | Lunessa | Kraps_w: Mid-30s? |
| 19:51.03 | Lunessa | durcyn: Everything? |
| 19:51.14 | clever | durcyn: i have seen an online service to thinclient WoW for ipad's |
| 19:51.36 | clever | but the lag must be insane, your streaming the whole UI as a video |
| 19:52.59 | Fisker | btw durcyn |
| 19:53.04 | Fisker | been quite a few minutes already |
| 19:53.13 | Fisker | did you ever figure anything to do with that minute? |
| 19:53.31 | Fisker | hey Shirik btw |
| 19:53.35 | Fisker | you Windows 8'ing today? |
| 19:53.38 | Shirik | hey Fisker btw |
| 19:53.41 | durcyn | Fisker: i'll get back to you |
| 19:53.50 | Fisker | that's what i thought |
| 19:54.03 | Shirik | no windows 8ing |
| 19:54.04 | Kraps_w | i was talking with a friend about Buffy and he mentioned that she is "old". at i was "u crazy?" but then i realized thats probably why her face gives me an uncanny vibe in recent advertising |
| 19:54.09 | Fisker | why not Shirik? :( |
| 19:54.19 | Fisker | i liked their preview |
| 19:55.32 | Fisker | what a load of bullshit |
| 19:55.36 | Fisker | Yep, this is not a bug. There is a log out timer while the game saves your data upon logging out. When in town, there is no count down and the game saves much faster. |
| 19:55.59 | Shirik | yeah that would be BS |
| 19:56.18 | Shirik | the timer is to prevent you from force quitting when you're gonna die |
| 19:56.23 | Fisker | their savesinatowndb is hosted on a SSD |
| 19:56.24 | Shirik | (and if you do force quit, you still wait the 20 seconds) |
| 19:56.24 | Fisker | :D |
| 19:56.27 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 19:56.41 | Shirik | almost every game I know does that |
| 19:56.52 | clever | Fisker: that timer is long before it begins to even save the data |
| 19:57.09 | Fisker | I'm just quoting blizzard here |
| 19:57.12 | Fisker | and lol'ing irl |
| 19:57.13 | clever | once the timer expires, the entire UI hangs and it begins to save the data |
| 19:57.43 | Fisker | now i'm going to sleep though |
| 19:57.49 | Fisker | so i can get up tomorrow at 5 am to download windows 8 |
| 19:59.05 | Shirik | omg closing bell needs to ring |
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| 20:03.18 | Kraps_w | argentina: bus vs train - train wins |
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| 20:12.58 | Fisker | so Stanzilla |
| 20:13.01 | Fisker | new nvidia beta drivers |
| 20:13.09 | Fisker | diablo 3 closed beta omg? |
| 20:13.17 | Stanzilla | I already downloaded them |
| 20:13.24 | Stanzilla | but was unable to update because of raid |
| 20:13.34 | Fisker | you can always update :( |
| 20:14.07 | Stanzilla | noo |
| 20:14.17 | Fisker | damn |
| 20:14.38 | Fisker | that there harrison ford is one huge hacker with his cd burning wizard and all |
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| 20:17.20 | durcyn | sandra bullock's floppy disk file copy dialog had better music |
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| 20:19.54 | Kraps_w | harrison ford? |
| 20:20.15 | Fisker | yeah |
| 20:20.32 | Fisker | I'm watching Firewall for some reason |
| 20:20.39 | Kraps_w | hehe |
| 20:21.08 | Kraps_w | you ever seen "die hard 4"? |
| 20:22.08 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:22.14 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 20:22.16 | Fisker | i forgot |
| 20:22.28 | Fisker | hackers there use ham radios, play gears of war and use some kiddie shit linux distro |
| 20:23.06 | Kraps_w | i know the tech was dumb but i really liked it |
| 20:23.50 | durcyn | he drove a car into a helicopter, how can you not like that |
| 20:23.56 | Kraps_w | exactly |
| 20:26.28 | Kraps_w | so are all the shit parents going to give their kids vaccines now? |
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| 21:12.39 | Arrowmaster | fucking hell, had to finish mowing the grass and use a mower with a handle too low, now my back hurts from doing it leaning over |
| 21:13.20 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: next time hire a midget |
| 21:13.36 | Ackis | pussy |
| 21:14.21 | Arrowmaster | next time ill just let the grass keep growing |
| 21:14.23 | Fisker | damn Arrowmaster |
| 21:14.31 | Fisker | you should've gotten me to do it |
| 21:14.43 | Fisker | would easily have done it for expenses paid + tactical enhancement pack |
| 21:15.05 | Arrowmaster | only if you did it wearing a sundress |
| 21:15.13 | Fisker | btw Thunder_Child |
| 21:15.28 | Fisker | my Diablo 3 Launcher no longer says "Launching Blizzard Launcher" |
| 21:15.31 | Fisker | after i rebooted |
| 21:15.42 | Fisker | and it works all the time now |
| 21:15.46 | Fisker | and not just sometimes |
| 21:17.50 | Gnarfoz | stop this talk of diablo 3 |
| 21:17.51 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 21:18.16 | Ackis | hugs Fisker |
| 21:18.18 | Ackis | thanks buddy |
| 21:18.28 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 21:18.33 | Fisker | thanks what? |
| 21:18.41 | Fisker | Gnarfoz i can't play either |
| 21:18.55 | Fisker | and you haven't even contemplated blackmailing your friend to include me |
| 21:18.56 | Gnarfoz | so stop reminding me :( |
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| 21:21.00 | Ackis | the sayings on my brother-in-laws gravestone is "Life is measured in memories, not years" and "No farewell words were spoken, no time to say goodbye, you were gone before we knew it, and only God knows why." |
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| 21:24.23 | foxlit | http://us.media2.battle.net/cms/gallery/JJCIBDU4Z0BR1315846640174.jpg << this feels like a rehash somehow |
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| 21:28.39 | Shirik | why do her ears go through the hat |
| 21:28.46 | Fisker | because Shirik |
| 21:29.23 | Fisker | i wouldn't be surprised that when they announce Titan they'll have some "Ears, hair, etc. does not ruin helms"-technology |
| 21:29.27 | Arrowmaster | because where else would they go, theyre too big to fit inside the hat |
| 21:31.01 | Shirik | so put holes in the hat or something |
| 21:31.09 | Shirik | ears do not penetrate cloth |
| 21:32.05 | Fisker | they do |
| 21:32.50 | Shirik | kernel.org got hacked? |
| 21:33.12 | Arrowmaster | you are so slow |
| 21:33.59 | Kalroth | older than Fiskers links |
| 21:34.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 21:36.23 | Kalroth | here's a gif for you <jaxdahl> http://i.imgur.com/pi8P1.gif |
| 21:36.53 | foxlit | "You know who else tried to fight wars? Hitler" |
| 21:41.04 | Ackis | foxlit: "Hitler wasn't so bad. After all, he did kill Hitler." |
| 21:41.08 | Dagmar | Shirik; Some time ago actually |
| 21:41.42 | Shirik | I like arenas really |
| 21:46.15 | foxlit | You know who else likes arenas, Shirik? |
| 21:46.24 | Shirik | disc priests |
| 21:46.24 | Thunder_Child | lies Shirik, lies |
| 21:49.17 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 21:49.21 | Fisker | do you want to see my penis? |
| 21:50.05 | Shirik | no ty |
| 21:50.22 | Thunder_Child | i dont think Shirik has a magnifying glass anyway |
| 21:52.11 | Fisker | he wouldn't need it if he were physically here |
| 21:52.36 | Ackis | if Fisker came with a warning it would say: 'Warning: Contains small parts." |
| 21:52.59 | Arrowmaster | contains? |
| 21:53.06 | zenzelezz | Ackis: your whole body is full of tiny parts |
| 21:53.35 | Adys | OH |
| 21:53.36 | Adys | YES |
| 21:53.36 | Adys | http://www.google.com/flights/ |
| 21:53.40 | Fisker | if Ackis came with a warning it would say: "Rated Adults Only by the ESRB for: general dickery" :( |
| 21:54.20 | Fisker | can't get a flight to anaheim Adys :( |
| 21:55.02 | bluspacecow | its not international yet Adayis |
| 21:55.08 | Ackis | you're going to blizzcon Fisker? |
| 21:55.24 | Ackis | bluspacecow: I flew there from Canada... Edmonton -> Las Vegas -> SNA |
| 21:55.31 | bluspacecow | he's going as me. |
| 21:55.35 | Ackis | same plane |
| 21:55.43 | Ackis | awww :( |
| 21:55.59 | bluspacecow | @adys i think i might of been talking of some other google flights service. |
| 21:56.41 | bluspacecow | http://www.google.com/flights/#search;f=MHB,AKL,XNZ;t=SAN;d=2011-09-30;r=2011-10-04 |
| 21:56.48 | bluspacecow | none from NZ yet :( |
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| 21:58.20 | Torhal|work | rewrites Ackis. |
| 21:58.30 | Ackis | s/ackis/collectinator/ |
| 21:58.47 | bluspacecow | suuuuure |
| 21:58.59 | Torhal|work | I wouldn't rewrite Collectinator. |
| 21:59.11 | Torhal|work | I might write Collectinator 2 from scratch, though. |
| 21:59.15 | bluspacecow | ackis you might be able to |
| 21:59.25 | Torhal|work | Especially when I get my 16GB of RAM and don't hate working on my iMac anymore. |
| 21:59.30 | bluspacecow | redo the recursion logic with the recursion fairy |
| 21:59.45 | Torhal|work | What recursion logic? |
| 21:59.57 | Torhal|work | staples bluspacecow to a whiteboard. |
| 22:00.05 | bluspacecow | exactly |
| 22:00.24 | bluspacecow | 269711978049 |
| 22:00.28 | bluspacecow | ..... |
| 22:00.38 | bluspacecow | oh noes my b.net password |
| 22:00.43 | bluspacecow | whatever shall i do ? |
| 22:00.44 | bluspacecow | https://www.facebook.com/pages/Recursion-Fairy/269711978049 |
| 22:01.30 | foxlit | Torhal|work: is that even needed, now that battle.net does it for you? |
| 22:02.23 | Shirik | (15:02:09)  -⺠[notice from NickServ]: Invalid password for Bluspacecow. |
| 22:02.24 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:02.38 | foxlit | " b.net password" |
| 22:02.43 | Torhal|work | foxlit: Dunno. Some folks like in-game stuff. I personally don't even use the first Collectinator - I just got it working. |
| 22:02.46 | Shirik | it could have been both! |
| 22:03.02 | foxlit | or neither |
| 22:03.21 | foxlit | who uses all-numeric passwords, anyway? It's the same combination I have on my luggage, etc. |
| 22:05.57 | Fisker | i would rewrite bluspacecow |
| 22:06.05 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 22:07.28 | bluspacecow | http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/funny-captions-24.jpg?w=500&h=343 |
| 22:09.20 | Fisker | yeah i farted too |
| 22:14.59 | Stanzilla | 4 hours Fisker |
| 22:15.01 | Stanzilla | 4! |
| 22:15.33 | Torhal|work | watches Stanzilla and Fisker reunite. |
| 22:16.36 | foxlit | http://compgeom.cs.uiuc.edu/~jeffe/teaching/algorithms/notes/02-fft.pdf |
| 22:16.41 | foxlit | If only for the lead-in quotes. |
| 22:22.53 | Fisker | yeah Stanzilla |
| 22:22.57 | Fisker | and no Stanzilla |
| 22:23.00 | Fisker | it's 5 hours |
| 22:23.03 | Fisker | or 4 hours and 40 minutes |
| 22:23.09 | Fisker | btw |
| 22:23.13 | Fisker | imma post on the Diablo 3 forums |
| 22:23.19 | Fisker | "lololol D3 not running on Windows 8 etc." |
| 22:23.31 | Stanzilla | 3:40 actually |
| 22:23.48 | Fisker | no Stanzilla |
| 22:24.46 | Stanzilla | ok |
| 22:24.57 | Stanzilla | I just F5'd and now it says 5am :( |
| 22:25.07 | Fisker | then you F5'd the wrong place to begin with |
| 22:25.15 | karl_w_w | why Fisker? |
| 22:25.22 | Fisker | idiots not understand we're currently UTC/GMT(In b4 timezone naming trolling)+2 |
| 22:26.04 | foxlit | just drop GMT, tbh |
| 22:27.01 | karl_w_w | I'll let you call it UTC if you can tell me what UTC stands for without googling it. |
| 22:27.33 | foxlit | universal coordinated time |
| 22:28.45 | foxlit | ha, close enough, word order be damned. |
| 22:28.49 | Lunessa | Wait until we have multiple plants and are trying to coordinate efforts across light-minutes long distances in places with differing gravity. Time measurements will really start to bake people's noodles. |
| 22:29.02 | Lunessa | planets, not plants. |
| 22:29.46 | Kraps | why would gravity make a difference? |
| 22:30.45 | Kraps | are you going to make fun of me now :( |
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| 22:39.39 | Lunessa | Kraps: Gravity influences space/time and time runs at different rates based on gravity and masses which generate it. |
| 22:40.28 | Lunessa | Effectively the concept of simultaneity over vast distances is a null concept. |
| 22:40.35 | Kraps | i was wondering about that |
| 22:40.51 | Kraps | gravity affects time |
| 22:41.26 | Lunessa | Yes. Very much so. Recent experiments to verify elements of General Relativity bear it out. |
| 22:42.35 | Kraps | i'm trying to get this :p |
| 22:43.04 | Kraps | oh this goes back to relative time |
| 22:44.39 | Lunessa | right. We can do reasonable accuracy on Earth, even though time's rate is different (very, very, very minutely) at different points/elevations. But imagine trying to accurately coordinate time to say⦠Jupiter's moon Europa. |
| 22:45.24 | Lunessa | We already have large numbers of people who freak out over time zones on earth and the international date line. |
| 22:50.58 | Thunder_Child | if we can calculate it, we can adjust for it |
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| 22:53.32 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I just look forward to the mass confusion. |
| 22:53.57 | durcyn | assuming that humanity will survive long enough to reach the stars is optimism enough for quite a while |
| 22:57.08 | Ackis | yay I got on the zam vip list so I can touch lore's hair! /cheer Cairenn & dolby |
| 22:57.20 | dolby | lol |
| 22:57.32 | dolby | your welcome Ackis ;) |
| 22:58.01 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 22:58.30 | Ackis | :D |
| 22:58.46 | Ackis | touching Lore's hair, getting hugs from Cairenn... zomg WIN! |
| 23:03.01 | bluspacecow | and fondled by cog |
| 23:03.05 | bluspacecow | is essential. |
| 23:03.14 | bluspacecow | him like teddy bear |
| 23:03.31 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 23:03.34 | bluspacecow | whos lore ? |
| 23:05.22 | Lunessa | He does videos and stuff over at TankSpot |
| 23:08.13 | Kraps | he has curly hair |
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| 23:13.15 | Fisker | why was lore allowed to attend Blizzcon? |
| 23:13.53 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Well, I don't have VIP so you don't get to touch my hair. |
| 23:14.28 | Ackis | Torhal|work: I'm going to touch you in other places |
| 23:14.36 | Torhal|work | NEIN! |
| 23:15.02 | Fisker | videos and stuff over at TankSpot? |
| 23:15.08 | Fisker | Is that what lore has led you to believe |
| 23:15.21 | Fisker | http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Lore |
| 23:18.56 | pompy | http://www.wowheadnews.com/blog=195092/4-3s-legendary-will-be-a-dagger-for-rogues |
| 23:19.11 | Fisker | pretty old though |
| 23:20.49 | bluspacecow | Ackis: Torhal|work: I'm going to touch you in other places <-------------------- that is win |
| 23:20.59 | Torhal|work | bluspacecow: No, that is simply Ackis. |
| 23:21.06 | bluspacecow | oh ok |
| 23:21.07 | Torhal|work | He'd do the same for you. |
| 23:21.09 | Torhal|work | :D |
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| 23:30.49 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: i hate you |
| 23:31.04 | Thunder_Child | stupid puns |
| 23:31.04 | Lunessa | With the passion of a thousand fiery suns? |
| 23:31.30 | Thunder_Child | puns are not ok! |
| 23:31.57 | Lunessa | And you're specifically angry about which pun? |
| 23:32.07 | Thunder_Child | "<Lunessa> Thunder_Child: I just look forward to the mass confusion." |
| 23:32.32 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
| 23:33.15 | Thunder_Child | die die die die die die die |
| 23:33.52 | Lunessa | Nah, I'm kind of interested in living for a good long time. |
| 23:34.27 | Lunessa | And on that note, I am going home. |
| 23:47.54 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: how'd you get vip? |
| 23:48.10 | Thunder_Child | he has kneepads |
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| 23:58.15 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 23:58.29 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 23:58.32 | Cairenn | Get my invite? |
| 23:59.24 | Arrowmaster | i didnt get any invite =( |
| 23:59.28 | Sargeras | to? |
| 23:59.39 | Cairenn | Sargeras: on FB |
| 23:59.48 | Cide | Cairenn's secret blizzcon party |
| 23:59.54 | Sargeras | I just got home from work, online class starts in a bit... wanted to say hi/hugs/poke Dolby |
| 23:59.58 | Cide | or was that only for me and you Cairenn? |
