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| 00:24.39 | p3lim | when is UnitGUID'player' ready? PLAYER_LOGIN? |
| 00:27.48 | karl_w_w | woo battle for gilneas weekends starting later |
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| 00:47.39 | Xinhuan | p3lim, typically after P_E_W |
| 00:47.51 | Xinhuan | i've had cases of it returning nil even then |
| 00:47.55 | Xinhuan | when zoning |
| 00:48.26 | p3lim | Xinhuan: cool, thanks |
| 00:51.04 | Fisker | Xinhuan |
| 00:51.08 | Fisker | i cannot be stopped |
| 00:51.24 | Xinhuan | dodges, Fisker runs past |
| 00:52.57 | Fisker | your actions are illogical |
| 00:54.32 | vincoof | hi, I'm looking for a way to know if a specific unit (currently "player") is the primary target of any of a swarm of mobs |
| 00:54.57 | Kraps | FISKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER |
| 00:55.11 | vincoof | I'm pretty sure this information exists since nameplates gets colored whenever you're a primaty target of a mob |
| 00:55.24 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 00:55.26 | Fisker | umad? |
| 00:55.32 | Kraps | not yet |
| 00:55.43 | Kraps | so, my precious |
| 00:55.47 | Kraps | soon* |
| 00:55.52 | Fisker | Then why is there a steam client beta update? |
| 00:56.30 | Kraps | because pants |
| 00:57.05 | Kraps | therefore squiggly |
| 00:57.18 | vincoof | hmmm I'l try again later, thanks for the replies |
| 00:57.53 | Kraps | vincoof: you can just idle |
| 00:58.04 | Kraps | and see if it get busy |
| 00:58.09 | Kraps | gets* |
| 00:58.13 | foxlit | ssh, no one tell him it's UnitIsSwarmedByMobs("unit") |
| 00:58.29 | Kraps | thats not real is it? |
| 00:58.57 | foxlit | nope :( |
| 00:59.11 | Kraps | damn |
| 01:00.12 | Torhal | Foof |
| 01:00.23 | vincoof | nm I need some sleep, can't think clearly while asleep =) |
| 01:00.38 | Fisker | i cannot sleep Kraps |
| 01:00.44 | Fisker | what shall a free Fisker do? |
| 01:00.53 | Kraps | what the what, borderlands...es item scheme is more complex than wows |
| 01:02.12 | kd3 | yay done with finals |
| 01:02.17 | kd3 | 2 weeks then I get to do it all again |
| 01:02.20 | kd3 | yaaaay~ |
| 01:02.25 | kd3 | looks for another beer |
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| 01:03.50 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: yeah multiple parts of the weapons effect its stats |
| 01:04.10 | Xyphoid | did you get it during the sale, i'm just starting borderlands mysself |
| 01:04.24 | Kraps | yeah Xyphoid |
| 01:04.26 | Arrowmaster | i tended to just stick with purple and orange weapons |
| 01:04.35 | Xyphoid | i love sniping in it |
| 01:04.46 | Arrowmaster | oh and mashers are awesome, if you get one keep it |
| 01:04.48 | Xyphoid | and i normally hate sniping in games |
| 01:05.17 | Xyphoid | i found a shotgun that fires rockets, that was pretty funny |
| 01:05.25 | Arrowmaster | ive got like 20 of those |
| 01:05.42 | Arrowmaster | including one that fires its entire clip at once |
| 01:06.00 | Xyphoid | i love the general look of it |
| 01:06.18 | Xyphoid | the views over the cliffs and stuff, it's lovely |
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| 01:08.04 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: does clique support different bindings per spec? |
| 01:09.10 | Iriel | It does if you ask it to |
| 01:11.02 | Ackis | ahh I see |
| 01:11.07 | Ackis | separate profile systems |
| 01:11.55 | Fisker | i will rage for free kd3 |
| 01:11.56 | Fisker | FREE |
| 01:11.58 | Iriel | Anyone here run a postfix based (or I guess sendmail based) MTA and have recommendations on a greylisting daemon? |
| 01:12.12 | kd3 | ooh, free rage |
| 01:12.51 | kd3 | I'm too awestruck by watching etho blow the hell out of a peninsula with 800 tnt |
| 01:13.21 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 01:14.00 | Dagmar | I begin to suspect I'm the last loon who doesn't use fly mode |
| 01:14.40 | Xinhuan | i don't, Dagmar |
| 01:14.54 | kd3 | nope; I play traditionally too. though I kinda am looking forward to the limited fly mode in creative coming |
| 01:15.24 | kd3 | wait, what the hell kind of grammar was that? |
| 01:15.26 | kd3 | looks for more beer |
| 01:15.35 | Xinhuan | but i typically only play on vanilla servers |
| 01:15.43 | Xinhuan | or myself |
| 01:15.50 | Dagmar | Same here. |
| 01:16.04 | Torhal | Making pancakes in Russia: http://i.imgur.com/kRU7R.jpg |
| 01:16.15 | Dagmar | The travel compass is about the only thing I bother with even on my own server, and that's more a matter of if I even remember I have one or not |
| 01:16.55 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: im wondering what kinda egg that is |
| 01:17.22 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: No clue, though it's so speckled it took me a moment to realize it WAS an egg. |
| 01:17.45 | Dagmar | omg |
| 01:18.10 | Dagmar | If this Xoom actually requires I fully charge it before starting it the first time I shall be dearly disappointed |
| 01:18.46 | Ackis | damnit |
| 01:18.49 | Ackis | I just lost all my bindings |
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| 01:24.50 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 01:24.53 | Fisker | lets kill people |
| 01:27.02 | Ackis | myself first? |
| 01:35.26 | airtonix | Dagmar: ukd3mad? |
| 01:36.20 | Dagmar | airtonix: Nope. |
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| 01:38.49 | Fisker | umad ? |
| 01:39.09 | airtonix | i don't use flymode either |
| 01:39.29 | airtonix | that's like.. trivialising the game dude |
| 01:39.57 | airtonix | i mean unless you had to breed and hatch your own choccobo |
| 01:44.54 | airtonix | yay |
| 01:44.57 | airtonix | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/novacut/novacut-pro-video-editor |
| 01:45.01 | airtonix | funded |
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| 02:04.59 | kd3 | yay! notch talking sense: https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/96513433134043136 |
| 02:06.20 | bluspacecow | has he been drunk twitting ? |
| 02:06.58 | kd3 | his reaction to the WildMassGuessing over the endermen he posted on g+ |
| 02:07.55 | kd3 | also, wtf. he's making them /act/ like slendermen too |
| 02:08.04 | kd3 | this means I'm never going outside at night. ever. again. |
| 02:13.00 | Fisker | i need lame kd3 |
| 02:13.06 | bluspacecow | http://twitter.com/#!/BlizzardCareers/status/94086561016188928 |
| 02:13.08 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 02:13.36 | kd3 | fisker: http://lame.sf.net |
| 02:13.48 | Fisker | i know kd3 |
| 02:14.53 | Fisker | i wish i could work at blizzard from home bluspacecow |
| 02:14.55 | Fisker | then i could fap |
| 02:15.21 | Fisker | why does notch have a twitter verified profile? |
| 02:15.36 | Fisker | I thought it was only for people that were famous |
| 02:15.42 | kd3 | because he has ~270k followers? |
| 02:15.45 | Fisker | bams |
| 02:15.47 | Fisker | BAM kd3 |
| 02:18.09 | Wobin | kd3: I didn't think that behaviour was endermanic |
| 02:18.17 | Wobin | kd3: seems more... Blink =P |
| 02:21.09 | airtonix | Fisker: umadbro? |
| 02:22.12 | Fisker | chrome://net-internals/ |
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| 02:22.14 | Fisker | i like that |
| 02:22.57 | TC-Laptop | http://www.geekologie.com/2011/07/a-45minute-tour-of-middle-earth-in-minec.php yet more people with too much time on their hands. |
| 02:23.45 | karl_w_w | i just realised |
| 02:23.51 | airtonix | that your mad? |
| 02:23.54 | karl_w_w | i created my twitter account years ago |
| 02:24.01 | karl_w_w | and i havent once logged in to it |
| 02:24.09 | karl_w_w | but im always logged in when i visit twitter |
| 02:24.19 | airtonix | scared? |
| 02:24.24 | karl_w_w | very |
| 02:24.50 | airtonix | wusbahg |
| 02:25.58 | Fisker | then obviously you have once logged in to it |
| 02:26.01 | karl_w_w | srsly, all blizz gms/ticket bitches work in an office? |
| 02:26.08 | Fisker | yes |
| 02:26.11 | Fisker | umad? |
| 02:26.15 | karl_w_w | no |
| 02:26.21 | Fisker | yes |
| 02:26.23 | karl_w_w | im wondering if they are |
| 02:26.29 | Fisker | they are |
| 02:26.29 | Fisker | umad? |
| 02:26.44 | kd3 | either in anaheim or in texas somewhere, for the US offices, at least |
| 02:26.52 | kd3 | in paris for EU, dunno about the other teams |
| 02:27.45 | Fisker | there's 2 offices in EU too |
| 02:27.46 | Fisker | jerk |
| 02:27.52 | Fisker | one is in Ireland |
| 02:28.51 | karl_w_w | jerk two is in Fisker's house |
| 02:29.06 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 02:29.07 | Fisker | UMAD? |
| 02:29.16 | karl_w_w | nou? |
| 02:29.49 | Fisker | nou |
| 02:29.58 | karl_w_w | chilling tale bretheren |
| 02:31.33 | karl_w_w | http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Muslim+terrorist+cartoon+sparks+debate+after+Oslo+attack/5175812/story.html |
| 02:31.44 | starlon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMl31Ak63Ww&feature=uploademail |
| 02:31.49 | karl_w_w | "When you look at it, the people don't really look like terrorists," <- DERP |
| 02:32.04 | starlon | Greek guitarist. |
| 02:32.49 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.01 | Fisker | i wonder how quick faux news would be over that |
| 02:33.16 | Kraps | defragging uses space? |
| 02:33.21 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 02:33.23 | Fisker | obviously |
| 02:33.40 | karl_w_w | you cant move things around if there's no around to move them in |
| 02:34.54 | Kraps | i mean, the amount of free space is decreasing |
| 02:37.02 | Kraps | no, it jumps up and down |
| 02:37.09 | Kraps | so nvm |
| 02:39.18 | Fisker | will it blend Kraps ? |
| 02:40.06 | Kraps | idk if bits blend |
| 02:41.04 | Dagmar | KRaps: If this is on Windows you probably want to be using Contig |
| 02:41.21 | Kraps | whats that |
| 02:41.25 | Dagmar | Kraps: There's GUI for it called PowerDefragmenter |
| 02:41.43 | Dagmar | Kraps: It's a no bullshit defrag utility |
| 02:42.05 | Dagmar | You may have noticed that Windows' defrag tool won't even touch files over a certain size. |
| 02:42.16 | Kraps | i'm using defraggler |
| 02:42.21 | Dagmar | This tool isn't so picky, and you can just point it at the WoW directory alone |
| 02:43.11 | Dagmar | Hmm... Made by the CCleaner people? I might look into yours actually. |
| 02:44.09 | Fisker | i'm sure it's just your version of windows having a your mom complex Dagmar |
| 02:46.44 | Dagmar | Nah, afaik Windows uses towers of hanoi, which is not so great when you're talking about flippantly moving several 2Gb files back and forth |
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| 02:47.03 | Fisker | speaking of your mom: http://shavethemtitties.com/ |
| 02:47.51 | Fisker | that was kinda hot |
| 02:49.09 | Kraps | is that nsfw? |
| 02:50.25 | Kraps | in borderlands, do you get less xp if the quests are grey? |
| 02:53.36 | Arrowmaster | i dont think so |
| 02:55.38 | Corrodias | it's... sort of nsfw? |
| 02:56.15 | Kraps | i was being facetious |
| 02:57.06 | Corrodias | i was being adorable |
| 02:57.45 | Kraps | yes you were, werent you |
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| 03:00.01 | airtonix | spooner |
| 03:00.45 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/07/google-offers-web-devs-better-performance-with-page-optimising-cdn.ars |
| 03:01.03 | airtonix | thoughts? |
| 03:01.15 | Dagmar | People at Akamai will be jumping out of windows. |
| 03:01.30 | kd3 | ^ first thought |
| 03:01.30 | airtonix | if i have an aws account, why would i want to use google cdn? |
| 03:01.33 | Dagmar | I would suggest avoiding the sidewalks directly outside their offices for a little while |
| 03:01.42 | Kraps | del spooner airtonix? |
| 03:01.53 | airtonix | umadspoon? |
| 03:02.02 | Dagmar | Because Google has enough hardware to create their own small moon, and they have literally THOUSANDS of colocation points |
| 03:02.11 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 03:02.52 | Adys | are there any public cdn companies? |
| 03:03.05 | Adys | id snicker looking at them. |
| 03:03.33 | Dagmar | Well, Akamai did drop by about 19% today |
| 03:03.48 | Dagmar | http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NASDAQ:AKAM |
| 03:04.03 | Adys | haha |
| 03:04.17 | Adys | oh LL is public too |
| 03:04.20 | Adys | had no idea |
| 03:04.38 | kd3 | good grief. just look at it! it's like a sheer cliff |
| 03:05.15 | Arrowmaster | how do you drop that much between closing and opening |
| 03:05.23 | Adys | you get raped by google |
| 03:05.25 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:05.36 | Adys | talk about make or break a company |
| 03:05.46 | Arrowmaster | but still its supposed to be a line |
| 03:06.07 | Kraps | thats the cliff officers and investors are jumping off |
| 03:06.19 | kd3 | just imagine a vertical line there. after-hours trading doesn't show until the opening bell |
| 03:06.23 | Adys | http://www.google.com/finance/historical?q=NASDAQ:AKAM |
| 03:06.25 | Adys | BAM. |
| 03:07.21 | Dagmar | That's a whole bunch of people clicking the "sell it first thing in the morning, period" button |
| 03:07.25 | kd3 | just boggles at the numbers |
| 03:07.42 | kd3 | 9x average volume, already opening 5 points lower than it closed the night before |
| 03:07.48 | kd3 | whistles |
| 03:08.14 | Arrowmaster | what time did google make the announcement? |
| 03:09.03 | kd3 | some time this morning, before opening bell iirc |
| 03:09.19 | Dagmar | Holy crap that was a clickflood then. heheh |
| 03:09.33 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 03:09.42 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/CNy9J.jpg |
| 03:09.43 | karl_w_w | windows defrag reports 0% fragmentation |
| 03:09.46 | Ackis | math + batman == fun |
| 03:09.49 | karl_w_w | defraggler says 18% |
| 03:10.07 | Dagmar | Yeah because windows doesn't consider a 4Gb file in 1,000 chunks to be fragmented. |
| 03:10.07 | kd3 | ackis: sweet |
| 03:10.12 | Adys | Ackis, kd3: http://imgur.com/gallery/lQC03 |
| 03:10.33 | A-KO | potshot spoiler |
| 03:10.42 | A-KO | with Krasus dead, what is Richard Knaak going to be able to write about? :P |
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| 03:11.46 | Kraps | wow, i know cop shows are supposed to have an authoritative antagonist to the lovable protagonist, but this character is just fucking stupid "HERP DERP WE DONT NEED THE MEDICAL EXAMINER I SOLVED THE CASE JUST BY LOOKING AT THE CRIME SCENE" |
| 03:19.01 | Seerah | lol - which show? |
| 03:19.24 | Kraps | body of proof |
| 03:22.10 | airtonix | i used a visual basic gui to determine the cause of death at the crime scene |
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| 03:47.21 | KarlKFI | bones was cute today. the chick was telling Booth that she couldn't zoom in or enhance any more because there weren't any more pixels to be had |
| 03:47.55 | KarlKFI | talking about how low res the security cam photos were |
| 03:48.09 | Wobin | KarlKFI: they totally needed to just zoom in and have a giant single pixel fill the screen |
| 03:48.15 | Wobin | "Well, what did you expect?" |
| 03:48.48 | Wobin | Kraps: Sounds like Sherlock =P |
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| 03:54.57 | Adys | airtonix: http://dpaste.com/581178/ |
| 03:55.01 | Adys | \o/ |
| 03:55.24 | Adys | poll: */vnd.bliz.* or */vnd.blizzard.* ? |
| 03:57.22 | Adys | eg. application/vnd.bliz.mpq or application/vnd.blizzard.mpq ? |
| 03:58.50 | airtonix | explicit is better than implicit |
| 03:59.03 | airtonix | don't be vague |
| 03:59.26 | Cide | airtonix wins |
| 04:01.26 | kd3 | wow reddit, seriously? 780 milliseconds ago |
| 04:03.47 | Adys | lol |
| 04:06.01 | Adys | http://code.google.com/p/libass/source/detail?r=d7544850775344879dd3049046c5b7ce2d52d3b3 |
| 04:06.03 | Adys | isnt this great |
| 04:06.08 | Adys | seeing git revisions on gcode |
| 04:10.17 | kd3 | git? on gcode? o_O |
| 04:10.18 | Adys | I'm pleased to announce that we've just pushed the R29 beta firmware out to a limited group of testers for a final check before we start moving towards a full beta. |
| 04:10.33 | Adys | kd3: yes, you know, as i announced about 4-5 times in this channel for the past 4 weeks |
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| 04:31.31 | mikma | http://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 04:32.16 | kd3 | makes sure the linux average is still blowing win/macs out of the water |
| 04:32.25 | kd3 | yay |
| 04:36.27 | Ackis | kinda NSFW: http://maps.google.com.au/?q=-37.533964,143.918719(10+Heron+Ridge)&ll=-37.534096,143.918839&spn=0.056356,0.081367&z=14&layer=c&cbll=-37.534002,143.918879&panoid=cp7LoegZzSbelcx9Xif09w&cbp=12,272.43,,1,7.93 |
| 04:37.22 | Corrodias | unattractive. |
| 04:43.06 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.01 | Cide | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28903/bucket%20seat.jpg |
| 04:49.43 | Cide | Shirik: yeah, or skype |
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| 04:56.05 | mikma | Top contributors |
| 04:56.05 | mikma | 1. |
| 04:56.05 | mikma | @notch |
| 04:56.05 | mikma | $4,048.00 |
| 04:56.09 | mikma | haha, it's on |
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| 05:09.55 | Ackis | what happens if a battlenet account is logged into SC2 and WowW at the same time? |
| 05:11.29 | Torhal | Ackis: Divide by @(#)&I&TWI&TDIKG@$# |
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| 05:13.08 | Ackis | 12 patches to apply =/ |
| 05:15.32 | karl_w_w | whoaaaa |
| 05:15.40 | karl_w_w | me and 2 guildies just queued for a troll |
| 05:15.44 | Ackis | grats? |
| 05:15.49 | karl_w_w | tank/dps, healer, and dps |
| 05:15.57 | karl_w_w | and we had a 2 minute queue! |
| 05:17.24 | Adys | Ackis: i was gonna ask "so?" |
| 05:17.28 | Adys | thinking "just use git apply" |
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| 05:42.18 | Adys | [05:49:39] <+Cide> Shirik: yeah, or skype |
| 05:42.24 | Adys | whatever you replied to, you're wrong |
| 05:42.43 | Torhal | Adys: Because he's Shirik or because he said Skype? |
| 05:42.57 | Adys | because he's Cide and he said Skype |
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| 05:44.08 | Torhal | Oh |
| 05:44.15 | Torhal | l2r Torhal |
| 05:44.27 | Adys | yeah daev l2r |
| 05:44.32 | Torhal | Haha |
| 05:44.43 | daev | YEAH |
| 05:45.28 | bluspacecow | fisker ? |
| 05:48.40 | Torhal | hands bluspacecow a jar of Fiskderp |
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| 06:05.40 | Kraps | yeah! http://store.steampowered.com/app/70000/ |
| 06:05.55 | Kraps | free weekend! |
| 06:07.06 | Torhal | checks Kraps's temperature. |
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| 06:13.24 | Ackis | check it anally |
| 06:13.56 | Torhal | Ackis: I'd rather not ruin your fun. |
| 06:15.38 | TMc51 | ham & cheese on potato bread with baked potato chips and cream soda. mmmmm late dinner ftw. |
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| 06:28.42 | Ackis | Kraps: are you getting dino dday? |
| 06:28.44 | Ackis | Fisker: ^ |
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| 06:30.03 | Ackis | I'm off to bed, but if you're getting it, think about a 4 pack because I'm planning on getting it too |
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| 07:01.23 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: it supports different *profiles* per spec |
| 07:01.33 | jnwhiteh | I could add bind-sets for primary/secondary talents but I don't think anyone has asked. |
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| 07:27.47 | Adys | banned_words.py |
| 07:27.49 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:27.51 | Adys | oh you will die. |
| 07:28.39 | Adys | security through stupidity |
| 07:31.06 | jnwhiteh | lol |
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| 07:42.17 | vincoof | Do we receive events from NPCs which is not our target or focus ? |
| 07:42.50 | vincoof | For instance when I move close to a NPC which buffs itselfs, will I received the UNIT_AURA event if if didn't target the mob ? |
| 07:45.06 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 07:45.15 | jnwhiteh | you'll receive a COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED, likely |
| 07:45.28 | jnwhiteh | but you'll have no way to access that mob via the API, since you won't have a unit id |
| 07:45.56 | karl_w_w | unless you mouse over it |
| 07:46.06 | jnwhiteh | indeed, but that changes the state of things. |
| 07:47.08 | vincoof | if I'm in a party or raid and the mob is targeted by a raid player (other than me), won't it trigger with a UnitId e.g. "raid3target" ? |
| 07:47.16 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 07:47.35 | jnwhiteh | or rather, you might have to look that up explicitly |
| 07:47.40 | jnwhiteh | but yes, you could access it then |
| 07:48.17 | vincoof | that's good news, but since I'm willing to work with a swarm of mobs, I'm pretty sure not all mobs will be targeted by a raid player :/ |
| 07:48.27 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
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| 07:51.20 | vincoof | can I use the COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED to know if a mob targeted me (e.g. I'm his primary target) ? |
| 07:51.52 | vincoof | I don't care if I donw't know which mob exactly targeted me (because I won't have its UnitId anyway), I just need to know is *someone* targeted me |
| 07:52.14 | airtonix | vincoof: not unless you are targeting them or something that is targeting them |
| 07:52.29 | airtonix | oh |
| 07:52.43 | airtonix | i don't think combat log shows target acquired events |
| 07:53.49 | vincoof | For some reasons nameplates seem to know when you are the primary target of a mob, they colour the nameplate bar accordingly |
| 07:54.17 | AcidWeb | Still looking for someone who speak french :-P |
| 07:54.26 | vincoof | Tu veux savoir quoi ? |
| 07:54.39 | airtonix | vincoof: libBanzai |
| 07:55.05 | vincoof | thanks, I'll take a look at it ! |
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| 07:55.57 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1980 |
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| 07:56.29 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqkhTO4k1Q8&feature=related |
| 07:56.37 | airtonix | "Shes got 48 New email messages form stalkers. lol" |
| 07:59.32 | airtonix | so adys |
| 08:00.11 | Adys | http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8208212863/the-psychology-of-the-reticle-and-the-feeling-of |
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| 08:03.33 | Corrodias | that sounds badass, Adys |
| 08:03.40 | Corrodias | about as bad as ass gets in terms of badassness |
| 08:09.40 | zenzio | that is a pretty interesting idea |
| 08:12.21 | starlon | lua> print(3+1) |
| 08:12.22 | lua_bot | starlon: 4 |
| 08:12.31 | starlon | lua> do precision = 4; value = 3.1311411313; print(loadstring(format("return format(\"%%.%df\", %f)", precision, value))()) end |
| 08:12.31 | lua_bot | starlon: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
| 08:12.36 | starlon | bleh |
| 08:13.11 | zenzio | try string.format |
| 08:13.26 | starlon | lua> do precision = 4; value = 3.1311411313; print(loadstring(string.format("return format(\"%%.%df\", %f)", precision, value))()) end |
| 08:13.26 | lua_bot | starlon: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'loadstring' (a nil value) |
| 08:13.44 | starlon | crippled |
| 08:13.52 | zenzio | in some ways |
| 08:14.06 | zenzio | the people in this channel had so much fun messing with the bots before they were secured |
| 08:14.13 | starlon | heh |
| 08:14.15 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaGqRMMY-gg mind=blown |
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| 08:15.33 | Adys | karl_w_w: son of a-- thats clever |
| 08:15.36 | zenzio | http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/c3fef54c-cc66-4585-af21-ebf6e7314049.jpg |
| 08:16.33 | airtonix | totally real |
| 08:16.40 | airtonix | you can tell from the pixels |
| 08:22.07 | Adys | It would have been like the difference between being shot with a bullet and being shot with a rhinoceros. |
| 08:23.58 | Adys | command of the day: gethostip |
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| 08:27.36 | starlon | who wrote lua_bot? |
| 08:27.44 | airtonix | purl |
| 08:27.44 | starlon | or who maintains it? |
| 08:27.52 | starlon | purl did? |
| 08:27.52 | purl | [did] Direct Inward Dialing, or just a phone number |
| 08:28.00 | Thunder_Child | my guess is jnwhiteh |
| 08:28.02 | zenzio | hm, think lua_bot is jnwhiteh's |
| 08:28.02 | airtonix | umad? |
| 08:28.15 | starlon | lol |
| 08:28.31 | starlon | Ok purl definitely did. |
| 08:28.42 | starlon | I'll check with jnw |
| 08:28.44 | airtonix | starlon: are you responsible for healbot? i will kill you |
| 08:28.50 | starlon | Nope |
| 08:28.50 | karl_w_w | purl gave birth to it |
| 08:28.55 | starlon | lol |
| 08:28.56 | karl_w_w | jnwhiteh looks after it |
| 08:29.07 | airtonix | he's creepy like that |
| 08:29.08 | karl_w_w | cos purl was a teenage mother |
| 08:32.18 | starlon | If Blizzard really wanted to be mean, they could always remove loadstring from WoW's Lua environment. lol |
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| 08:33.45 | zenzio | you will never look at bacon the same way again: http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/demotivational-posters-bacon-my-precious.jpg |
| 08:36.05 | Kalroth | ahh |
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| 08:41.12 | Thunder_Child | zenzio: thats tekkub in 30 years |
| 08:41.29 | karl_w_w | lol |
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| 08:43.28 | airtonix | can no be unseen |
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| 08:56.26 | TMc51 | <3 entering a losing BG, and turning it around to a win for smexy achievements. |
| 08:57.45 | mitch0 | anyone happen to have the civ card sheet for Advanced Civilization in electronic form? |
| 08:59.45 | jnwhiteh | anyone want a google music invite? |
| 08:59.49 | airtonix | does alterac valley still exist? |
| 09:02.00 | Thunder_Child | mitch0: you mean a larger version of http://www.hitrepeat.com/imagehost/20071213153941760.jpg ? |
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| 09:04.37 | airtonix | Thunder_Child: how would feel about |
| 09:09.33 | mitch0 | thunder: no, I meant this: http://heim.ifi.uio.no/christkk/advciv/civ-credits.pdf |
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| 09:09.42 | mitch0 | thanks for looking though |
| 09:09.47 | Cruciformer | 'lo all |
| 09:10.18 | Cruciformer | Any of the genii in here "do git"? git makes my head hurt :) |
| 09:10.40 | jnwhiteh | yes, I 'do git' |
| 09:11.06 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: I know this isnt #git (they're unhelpful) may I ask u a question about it? |
| 09:11.07 | airtonix | you do retards too |
| 09:11.19 | jnwhiteh | don't ask if you can ask, just ask |
| 09:11.21 | jnwhiteh | please |
| 09:11.23 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 09:11.28 | Cruciformer | airtonix: He only does retards on days that end in a 'y' :) |
| 09:11.44 | airtonix | Cruciformer: can i ask you if you can ask me if i can ask you ? |
| 09:11.53 | mitch0 | cruci: just switch to mercurial. less headaches :) |
| 09:11.57 | jnwhiteh | says you |
| 09:12.04 | airtonix | mitch0: umadbro? |
| 09:12.05 | jnwhiteh | I find mercurial quite counter-intuitive :p |
| 09:12.20 | Cruciformer | I have a tag. master has moved on. Now I need to create a 8remote* branch based on that tag so I can make a patch. I cant seem to figure out the right magic. |
| 09:12.43 | jnwhiteh | git branch newbranchname <tagname> |
| 09:12.49 | jnwhiteh | make changes |
| 09:12.59 | jnwhiteh | git push newbranchname:newbranchname |
| 09:13.16 | jnwhiteh | you can't create a remote branch without having something to push to it |
| 09:13.17 | Cruciformer | ooooh that last bit isnt something Ive seen before. |
| 09:13.30 | jnwhiteh | it just says push the local ref on the left to the remote ref on the right |
| 09:13.35 | Cruciformer | Oh so thre has to be an actual change? |
| 09:13.39 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 09:13.47 | jnwhiteh | you could git push master:someothername |
| 09:13.55 | jnwhiteh | and that shoudl make a new branch called someothername that is rooted at master |
| 09:14.01 | jnwhiteh | when you perform the push |
| 09:14.39 | Cruciformer | k so I dont need git push -u which is what all teh googling said to do (and failed to work) |
| 09:15.34 | jnwhiteh | ah no |
| 09:15.56 | jnwhiteh | what that does is set the stuff in .git/config that makes it so you can do git pull |
| 09:16.05 | jnwhiteh | so, I have a repo at http://github.com/jnwhiteh/chunkymonkey |
| 09:16.08 | jnwhiteh | I check that out, since that's my main repo |
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| 09:16.23 | jnwhiteh | but I have a branch that tracks the parent repo at http://github.com/huin/chunkymonkey |
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| 09:17.02 | jnwhiteh | I can branch from his, make a new branch on mine, and once i've pushed I can use -u to maek it so I can simply git pull |
| 09:17.09 | jnwhiteh | rather than needing to specify a remote and remote ref |
| 09:17.41 | Cruciformer | btw when I did git push v2.1.x-patch:v2.1.x-patch I get an error "unresolved hostname v2.1.x-patch" |
| 09:17.50 | jnwhiteh | you have to specify the remote |
| 09:17.53 | jnwhiteh | git push origin <what you had> |
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| 09:18.49 | Cruciformer | "rejected. error: failed to push some refs to user@repo:/path" |
| 09:19.30 | jnwhiteh | one sec |
| 09:20.06 | jnwhiteh | try just git push origin v2.1.x-patch: |
| 09:20.19 | jnwhiteh | and it didn't give you any further error messages? |
| 09:20.51 | Cruciformer | a big schpiel about losing history and merge the remote brnaches by doing git pull |
| 09:21.07 | jnwhiteh | please pastey it, it's probably relevant |
| 09:21.07 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:21.37 | Cruciformer | k one set let me re-irc from the same box so I can do that. BTW thank u for your help it is *HIGHLY* appreciated. |
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| 09:24.39 | Cruciformer | ummm ... its pastey.net right? |
| 09:24.49 | jnwhiteh | its any number of paste sites |
| 09:24.54 | jnwhiteh | http://paste.pocoo.org/ |
| 09:24.56 | jnwhiteh | whatevs |
| 09:26.11 | Cruciformer | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/tBomYGc0KLqnGu9YEAfz/ |
| 09:27.18 | jnwhiteh | you already have a ref v2.1.x_maintenance on your remote |
| 09:27.19 | jnwhiteh | .. |
| 09:28.01 | Cruciformer | Ok I just deleted it with git branch -r -d origin/v2.1.x_maintenance |
| 09:28.11 | Cruciformer | that must have been a left-over from a previous attempt |
| 09:28.19 | Cruciformer | now git branch -r doesnt show it |
| 09:29.13 | Cruciformer | and theres nothing about it in git branch -a or in .git/config ... so Im on a clean slate. |
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| 09:29.33 | Cruciformer | correct? |
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| 09:29.49 | jnwhiteh | sure |
| 09:30.34 | Cruciformer | so now I do "git branch v2.1.x_maintenance v2.1.3.164 (the tag name) yes? |
| 09:30.41 | jnwhiteh | sure |
| 09:31.22 | Cruciformer | now? git push origin 'v2.1.x_maintenance:' ? |
| 09:31.28 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 09:32.07 | Cruciformer | fatal: remote part of refspec is not a valid name in v2.1.x_maintenance: |
| 09:33.00 | jnwhiteh | add the same on the right-hand side of hte colon |
| 09:33.22 | jnwhiteh | was trying to remember the syntax there, but the long form works |
| 09:34.06 | Cruciformer | maybe git push http://paste.pocoo.org/show/GQ1Fdlp6QihH6rdZSz9o/ |
| 09:34.09 | Cruciformer | oops |
| 09:34.14 | Cruciformer | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/GQ1Fdlp6QihH6rdZSz9o/ |
| 09:34.31 | jnwhiteh | then you have a 2.1.x_maintenance branch |
| 09:34.36 | jnwhiteh | its telling you exactly what the problem is |
| 09:34.47 | jnwhiteh | or a tag |
| 09:34.50 | jnwhiteh | some ref on the remote |
| 09:35.04 | jnwhiteh | i just tested and this works |
| 09:35.23 | jnwhiteh | cd Clique.git; git branch testbranch v40000-1.2.2 ; git push origin testbranch:testbranch |
| 09:37.30 | Cruciformer | must have been some remnant of v2.1.x_maintenance that I cant see. I'll try with another name |
| 09:38.10 | karl_w_w | trick question: what happened to the statistics section on wow armory? |
| 09:38.40 | airtonix | trick answer: what statistics? |
| 09:39.33 | mitch0 | karl: cruciformer killed it with a failed git push |
| 09:42.53 | Cruciformer | I dont care who says what git is obtuse. |
| 09:43.04 | Fisker | kisses mitch0 |
| 09:46.50 | Cruciformer | thanks jnwhiteh it worked when I used a different name. Obvious some remnant of the old name left around on the remote, even though I did a git bracnh -r -d ... and then git branch -r didnt show it. |
| 09:47.05 | Cruciformer | becuase now when I do a pull that old name is back. |
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| 09:48.00 | Cruciformer | but its working with teh new name and that is all I care about. I can now go build that branch off hudson. |
| 09:48.13 | Cruciformer | thank you once again *very* much for your help. |
| 09:51.56 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUHW2TVJars |
| 09:52.03 | airtonix | probably nfsw |
| 09:56.48 | jnwhiteh | Cruciformer: welcome |
| 10:02.27 | Cruciformer | quiting here to get back shell history :) |
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| 10:10.34 | Adys | http://imgur.com/gallery/22R6B |
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| 10:11.00 | starlon | jnwhiteh: You havea Google Music envite? :) |
| 10:11.17 | jnwhiteh | already gave them away, sorry =/ |
| 10:11.17 | starlon | doesn't know what that is, but it's Google so cool. |
| 10:11.20 | starlon | kk |
| 10:11.21 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:11.22 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 10:30.23 | AcidWeb | I like Google for their openness. Their message is clear: "We want take over this planet" ;p |
| 10:30.44 | Fisker | it was like boom headshot jnwhiteh |
| 10:30.50 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 10:31.05 | Fisker | it was |
| 10:31.18 | Fisker | it was like 4 snipers all without that razorback |
| 10:31.21 | Fisker | so BOOM backstab |
| 10:31.24 | Fisker | BOOM backstab |
| 10:31.27 | bluspacecow | fiisker |
| 10:31.27 | Fisker | BOOM BACKSTAB |
| 10:31.42 | Fisker | they were pissed |
| 10:31.44 | airtonix | stop spaming |
| 10:31.54 | Fisker | i basically dismantled an entire team in one spree |
| 10:32.00 | Kalroth | u da man |
| 10:32.05 | Fisker | i was killed by a pyro but by then i had killed 11 people |
| 10:32.05 | Fisker | :D |
| 10:32.32 | bluspacecow | while {time>0} do printf("hey fisker"); }end |
| 10:32.37 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 10:32.38 | Fisker | umad? |
| 10:32.41 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 10:32.58 | zenzio | what language is that? |
| 10:33.25 | bluspacecow | apple talk ! |
| 10:39.59 | Fisker | so jnwhiteh |
| 10:40.02 | Fisker | does a jnwhiteh say? |
| 10:40.06 | Fisker | what does* |
| 10:41.56 | airtonix | Fisker: why won't cm7 provide notification option to do use shit |
| 10:42.01 | airtonix | FUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 10:42.08 | airtonix | usb |
| 10:42.25 | Fisker | your phone sucks |
| 10:42.37 | airtonix | so does your face |
| 10:42.50 | Fisker | i fucked your mom |
| 10:43.02 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 10:43.08 | Fisker | y i no google music invite? |
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| 10:48.43 | airtonix | y u no fi my usb |
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| 10:59.08 | bt | is GetSpellName still usable? |
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| 10:59.31 | AcidWeb | "Anyone who buys the Humble Indie Bundle 3 will, no matter what they elect to pay for it, be granted free access to Minecraft until August 14." |
| 10:59.44 | AcidWeb | There are people without MC account? :P |
| 11:00.36 | Fisker | yeah the game isn't very good |
| 11:00.38 | Fisker | so probably tons |
| 11:02.01 | AcidWeb | K i forgot about that are people that dont like sandbox games ;p |
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| 11:04.14 | Fisker | umad? |
| 11:04.18 | Fisker | jnwhiteh please |
| 11:04.26 | jnwhiteh | what. |
| 11:17.50 | zenzio | AcidWeb: I've never touched Minecraft |
| 11:18.50 | Kalroth | ive played terraria but never minecraft |
| 11:20.41 | AcidWeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:21.10 | zenzio | I've had a chance to try it ever since it was released, I just don't find it interesting :-p |
| 11:21.14 | Kalroth | ill pass, it looks boring |
| 11:29.22 | karl_w_w | wow! |
| 11:29.33 | karl_w_w | 1 file in 15726 fragments |
| 11:29.58 | zenzio | how big is the file? |
| 11:30.24 | Fisker | y i no google music invite jnwhiteh |
| 11:31.03 | karl_w_w | 900mb |
| 11:31.14 | karl_w_w | and its only been written once :P |
| 11:31.32 | karl_w_w | probably cos i copied it across network to my wdtv |
| 11:31.58 | zenzio | sounds like your harddrive was pretty fragmented when you copied it then |
| 11:33.09 | ZorbaBeta | I must say I'm rather tired of hard drive fragmentation. it seems like a problem that should be solvable. |
| 11:33.28 | karl_w_w | it is |
| 11:33.37 | karl_w_w | use linux |
| 11:35.40 | ZorbaBeta | isn't win8 supposed to include a new filesystem? (just like every windows version since nt4) |
| 11:35.48 | ZorbaBeta | maybe they'll finally fix it |
| 11:37.08 | Kalroth | fat chance |
| 11:37.46 | Kalroth | problem with ntfs is that it tries to group files, where linux spread thems all over the disk |
| 11:38.22 | Kalroth | so linux doesn't run into fragmentation issues until it is 80-90% full, while windows runs into them from the first file |
| 11:38.43 | zenzio | they should rename it Windows Technology File System |
| 11:39.49 | bluspacecow | WTFS? |
| 11:56.15 | foxlit | "ZorbaBeta: I must say I'm rather tired of hard drive fragmentation. it seems like a problem that should be solvable." << It's called a solid-state drive. |
| 11:57.47 | ZorbaBeta | foxlit, I'm not sure if the optimal SSD read size is the same as a filesystem block. if it's larger, then SSD fragmentatino would still occur |
| 11:58.18 | A-KO | fragmentation does occur, but it doesn't matter |
| 11:58.22 | Kalroth | fragmentation still occurs on SSDs, you just dont feel it |
| 11:58.23 | A-KO | as access tiem is uniform across an SSD |
| 11:58.55 | A-KO | so as long as you've got proper TRIM going on, your SSD should scream for quite some time |
| 11:59.09 | Kalroth | Adys: this is totally you http://i.imgur.com/HWMDS.jpg |
| 11:59.13 | ZorbaBeta | a-ko, no, you're missing my point. if an optimal read size is 32KB, and a hard drive block is 8KB, then you still can lose 75% of your performance by having one block of the file in each SSD read size zome |
| 11:59.14 | A-KO | some SSDs now are even building in more complex garbage collection |
| 11:59.27 | Kalroth | A-KO: GC and compression, yeah |
| 11:59.37 | ZorbaBeta | I don't know if that's an actual issue, but uniform access time isn't a panacea |
| 11:59.59 | A-KO | ZorbaBeta: Perhaps from an OS i/o perspective, it's possible, I suspect we'll see more filesystem evolution over the next couple of years as SSDs mature. |
| 12:00.21 | A-KO | that is, the time it takes to call those reads from the OS is the bottleneck rather than any physical performance issue |
| 12:03.24 | airtonix | Kalroth: i used that dartboart analogy to a computer noob a month ago to explain fragmentation on windows vs linux, he thought it was cool |
| 12:03.58 | A-KO | eh, linux suffers from fragmentation also |
| 12:04.02 | A-KO | they even built a defragmenter for ext4 |
| 12:04.06 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:04.07 | A-KO | and I think btrfs has one also |
| 12:04.09 | airtonix | YUMAD? |
| 12:05.01 | A-KO | The only reason people really don't notice fragmentation in a linux environment is typically due to server workloads being more popular :P Fragmentation isn't really an issue in Windows Server workloads either, though over an extended period of time it can be. |
| 12:05.09 | A-KO | desktop workloads are notorious for fragmentation |
| 12:05.14 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 12:05.26 | airtonix | <Kalroth> so linux doesn't run into fragmentation issues until it is 80-90% full, while windows runs into them from the first file |
| 12:05.36 | airtonix | ustillmadbro? |
| 12:05.43 | A-KO | I'm not mad, I'm simply correcting your statements. |
| 12:05.48 | Kalroth | airtonix: ya |
| 12:05.54 | airtonix | how were correcting them? |
| 12:05.56 | Kalroth | A-KO: wrong |
| 12:05.59 | airtonix | they were never incorrect |
| 12:06.15 | airtonix | you simply put meaning where there was none |
| 12:07.09 | Kalroth | http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2006/08/17/why_doesn_t_linux_need_defragmenting educate yourself! |
| 12:07.18 | airtonix | he won't |
| 12:07.21 | A-KO | Kalroth: I have seen linux fragmentation issues long before 80-90% full, but again, it typically depends on what you're doing with it to cause it. Just because a defragmenter never realy existed doesn't mean it never really needed one. I could go into the details, but I won't. At the end of the day, Windows and Linux do mostly similar things, though different in some cases, to accomplish the |
| 12:07.21 | A-KO | same task. |
| 12:07.35 | airtonix | haters gonna hate |
| 12:07.41 | A-KO | You will never, ever hear someone who actually knows how all of this works ever bash Windows for how they do something. Only people who don't understand. |
| 12:08.01 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 12:08.02 | Fisker | umad? |
| 12:08.07 | airtonix | lawl |
| 12:08.16 | Kalroth | I wasn't bashing Windows, I was just stating that NTFS is much more fragmentation prone than EXT2/3 is |
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| 12:08.32 | airtonix | Kalroth: no . |
| 12:08.38 | Kalroth | no ? |
| 12:08.44 | airtonix | your eithet with us |
| 12:08.48 | airtonix | or against us |
| 12:08.53 | airtonix | which is it? |
| 12:09.03 | Kalroth | against you then, the alternative is boring |
| 12:09.06 | airtonix | ninjas on the lawn! |
| 12:09.18 | A-KO | The question isn't necessarily which approach is "better", but both approaches accomplish similar results, or more importantly, were built for different purposes. There really is no right/wrong. Just different :P |
| 12:09.44 | A-KO | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/e7/archive/2009/01/25/disk-defragmentation-background-and-engineering-the-windows-7-improvements.aspx |
| 12:09.52 | A-KO | here's Microsoft's blog on defrag with Windows 7 |
| 12:09.54 | A-KO | feel free to read |
| 12:09.57 | airtonix | no |
| 12:10.02 | airtonix | it's all lies |
| 12:10.12 | airtonix | communist propaganda |
| 12:10.14 | Kalroth | airtonix: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/msr/2513443424.html is this you |
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| 12:11.01 | airtonix | um |
| 12:11.04 | airtonix | wtf |
| 12:11.04 | Kalroth | A-KO: again, you arent wrong, but it doesnt change my statement |
| 12:11.14 | Kalroth | airtonix: so you arent denying it? |
| 12:11.39 | airtonix | are you denying it? |
| 12:11.46 | Kalroth | i certainly am |
| 12:11.53 | ZorbaBeta | AFAIK, no OS will actively defragment in the background. I wonder if there's a reason for this besides "we haven't gotten around to it" |
| 12:12.01 | airtonix | then i will too |
| 12:12.20 | Kalroth | ZorbaBeta: Well mainly because it adds a lot of wear on the disk |
| 12:12.34 | A-KO | ZorbaBeta: That's a good question, probably to performance trade off. That is, the point at which fragmentation becomes an issue is longer than bothering with realtime deframgnetation |
| 12:12.35 | Kalroth | ZorbaBeta: and Windows already got a ton of background services (indexing, fast boot, etc. etc.) |
| 12:12.43 | A-KO | indexing is awesome |
| 12:12.47 | Kalroth | fuck indexing |
| 12:12.48 | A-KO | indexing is good, superfetch is good |
| 12:12.51 | Kalroth | first thing I disable |
| 12:12.54 | Kalroth | same with superfetch |
| 12:13.00 | airtonix | lawl |
| 12:13.02 | A-KO | you definitely should not disable superfetch |
| 12:13.03 | Kalroth | (I got SSDs) |
| 12:13.05 | A-KO | if you do, you're an idiot |
| 12:13.06 | A-KO | ah |
| 12:13.06 | ZorbaBeta | kalroth, would it really be that much? if you were moderately clever with when you did defragmentation, it might not really be a huge change long-term |
| 12:13.07 | A-KO | well |
| 12:13.11 | airtonix | Kalroth: can you tell a-ko loves windows? |
| 12:13.12 | A-KO | if Windows didn't disable superfetch for you |
| 12:13.13 | A-KO | your SSD sucks |
| 12:13.16 | Kalroth | uhm |
| 12:13.20 | Kalroth | Intel 510? |
| 12:13.25 | A-KO | ZorbaBeta: Windows 7 has a scheduled defrag automatically (same with Vista) |
| 12:13.37 | Kalroth | yeah, the auto defrag didnt disable either |
| 12:13.43 | ZorbaBeta | sure, but "Scheduled defrag" is a seriously different thing from "quiet background defragmentation" |
| 12:13.47 | A-KO | Kalroth: I've considered wondering when MS will re-enable superfetch for SSDs. It's a great tech. Linux has had a similar mechanism since a bit ago, too. |
| 12:14.01 | airtonix | pity you can't use metacity and gnome on windows to replace the craptastic default desktop |
| 12:14.08 | A-KO | ZorbaBeta: true. but again, probably a performance trade off. If you're spending too much time defragging, it isn't really worth it |
| 12:14.23 | ZorbaBeta | a-ko, I'm not sure I agree with that. The defrag actions could be scheduled during idletime |
| 12:14.29 | ZorbaBeta | that's basically wasted CPU and HD bandwidth |
| 12:14.56 | A-KO | ZorbaBeta: true. Windows 7 at least has it as an idle/background process--just that it's not continual. I know some utilities allow you to do that. |
| 12:15.05 | ZorbaBeta | *nod* |
| 12:16.13 | Kalroth | I used to run OOFrag or something on my old machine, it had background defragmentation |
| 12:16.14 | A-KO | http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/Linux%20Memory%20Management.htm < Linux "superfetch", or rather, something similar to it |
| 12:16.15 | A-KO | :P |
| 12:16.24 | A-KO | off to work |
| 12:16.28 | A-KO | gotta go build some systems |
| 12:16.30 | Kalroth | A-KO: no it isnt, you nutter |
| 12:16.31 | A-KO | yay ipads |
| 12:16.31 | airtonix | don't trip over |
| 12:16.37 | Kalroth | that is a normal file cache |
| 12:16.37 | airtonix | please die |
| 12:17.33 | A-KO | Kalroth: Linux's memory caching is very similar to superfetch in that it allocates ram for what it assumes you will need/want access to. Perhaps a different mechanism, same result--pull frequently used shit from ram rather than disk. |
| 12:17.56 | Arrowmaster | linuxatemyram.com |
| 12:17.59 | Kalroth | Windows 7 got a very similar cache, it isn't superfetch though |
| 12:18.00 | airtonix | you're late for work |
| 12:18.14 | A-KO | Arrowmaster: thank you |
| 12:18.17 | A-KO | couldn't remember that URL |
| 12:18.18 | airtonix | if you don't arrive at the office on time today, i will have to fire you |
| 12:18.26 | A-KO | but yes, superfetch, same deal. |
| 12:18.28 | Arrowmaster | A-KO: how can you NOT remember that url? |
| 12:18.41 | A-KO | Arrowmaster: brain fart? |
| 12:18.42 | A-KO | lol |
| 12:18.55 | airtonix | becuase it's actually stevebalmeratemychildren.com |
| 12:19.00 | Kalroth | During the Windows boot process, the same files need to be accessed at different times. SuperFetch records which data and files need to be accessed at which times, and stores this data in a trace file. During subsequent boots, this information is used to make the loading of said data/files more efficient, resulting in shorter boot times. |
| 12:19.20 | Arrowmaster | linux disc caching and superfetch are very different |
| 12:19.26 | Arrowmaster | disk |
| 12:19.28 | Kalroth | yes, thats what I said :) |
| 12:19.30 | A-KO | Kalroth: Superfetch is actually the process of caching data that is frequently used into memory. It's not just a boot optimization process. That's the prefetcher. Superfetch extends it. |
| 12:19.40 | airtonix | there is a different tool that does that |
| 12:19.43 | airtonix | for linux |
| 12:19.53 | Kalroth | Linux disk cache simply caches file reads, Superfetch does much more than that |
| 12:20.08 | airtonix | which is the job of another tool |
| 12:20.11 | airtonix | on linux |
| 12:20.12 | Arrowmaster | there are tools you can use on linux to force stuff into the disk cache |
| 12:20.13 | A-KO | while I don't know the very specifics of each one, I know they all accomplish similar goals. |
| 12:20.28 | A-KO | to put shit it thinks you'll wnat into ram...done :P |
| 12:20.29 | A-KO | that's it |
| 12:20.31 | A-KO | that's all they accomplish |
| 12:20.33 | Kalroth | >< |
| 12:20.49 | zenzio | A-KO: so that's why my Linux computer's RAM is full of porn |
| 12:21.50 | A-KO | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Vista_I/O_technologies#SuperFetch < more info |
| 12:21.51 | A-KO | and I'm off |
| 12:22.17 | Kalroth | I know what it does :) |
| 12:23.38 | airtonix | A-KO: you're late |
| 12:23.41 | airtonix | therefore |
| 12:23.43 | airtonix | fired |
| 12:27.01 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:27.46 | krka | Arrowmaster: that sounds pretty useful - what tools are that? |
| 12:27.59 | Arrowmaster | i cant remember |
| 12:28.30 | airtonix | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1434502 |
| 12:28.33 | airtonix | ureadahead |
| 12:28.49 | airtonix | and |
| 12:28.51 | airtonix | sreadahead |
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| 12:29.07 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 12:30.47 | bluspacecow | PEPPY! |
| 12:30.53 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.36 | Lopeppeppy | Well, good morning to you too, handsome. Nice to see you so bright eyed and bushy tailed so late in your day. |
| 12:31.45 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 12:31.49 | bluspacecow | this is but an illusion |
| 12:32.19 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 12:32.21 | Fisker | will it float? |
| 12:32.24 | Fisker | That is the question |
| 12:32.27 | Fisker | HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG |
| 12:32.29 | bluspacecow | what is it |
| 12:32.31 | Lopeppeppy | We all float down here. |
| 12:32.34 | airtonix | lawl |
| 12:32.43 | airtonix | Fisker: don't bust a gut |
| 12:32.54 | Fisker | i wouldn't |
| 12:32.56 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:33.02 | airtonix | ewww |
| 12:33.08 | airtonix | that's not fresh water trout |
| 12:33.15 | Fisker | it's free |
| 12:33.24 | airtonix | yes but you just went hnnng |
| 12:33.35 | airtonix | and produced a trout |
| 12:34.09 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 12:34.17 | bluspacecow | he pooped it out ! |
| 12:34.27 | airtonix | maybe he is a shee |
| 12:34.45 | zenzio | +ple |
| 12:36.29 | Fisker | now i can sit infront of my computer and put in the tracking number for the package i'm expecting and track it on my phone instead of on my computer in a webbrowser |
| 12:36.31 | Fisker | how convenient |
| 12:36.47 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:37.00 | Fisker | no |
| 12:37.17 | bluspacecow | umat ? |
| 12:37.57 | Fisker | no |
| 12:38.05 | Fisker | u penis? |
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| 12:38.11 | foxlit | it seems to me that amazon's package tracking system is pure BS |
| 12:38.37 | Arrowmaster | i got 3 packages from amazon over a period of 2 days |
| 12:38.45 | foxlit | Dispatched on: 27 July 2011, Delivery Estimate: 2 Aug 2011 |
| 12:38.50 | Lopeppeppy | Because it's not theirs, really, it's just... borrowing the system of whoever they maybe maybe shipped it with. |
| 12:38.52 | airtonix | Arrowmaster: no ps3 though? |
| 12:38.55 | airtonix | hoho |
| 12:39.08 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: I'm thinking they make some of this crap up |
| 12:39.22 | foxlit | They claim to have handed it off to the postal service on the 27th |
| 12:39.40 | foxlit | In this country, no less. That means it should've been delivered on the 28th/29th |
| 12:39.46 | Fisker | nah foxlit |
| 12:39.53 | Fisker | they send it from the UK |
| 12:40.12 | zenzio | unless something went wrong and it was accidentally sent to another country or something (happened to me once) |
| 12:40.12 | Fisker | dunno why they tell you it was handed to the post danmark |
| 12:40.33 | foxlit | meanwhile, the postal service is like "package? what package? I see no package!" |
| 12:40.43 | airtonix | so Fisker did you order the transformer keyboard? |
| 12:40.53 | Fisker | yes airtonix |
| 12:40.59 | Fisker | umad? |
| 12:41.09 | airtonix | no becuase i did too |
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| 12:41.17 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:41.20 | Fisker | no |
| 12:41.20 | Fisker | umad? |
| 12:41.25 | airtonix | no |
| 12:41.27 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:41.37 | Fisker | no |
| 12:41.38 | Fisker | umad? |
| 12:41.41 | airtonix | yes |
| 12:41.43 | airtonix | umad? |
| 12:41.43 | Fisker | actually |
| 12:41.47 | Fisker | i'm kinda mad too |
| 12:41.53 | Fisker | because they have transformer + dock bundles in stock |
| 12:41.57 | karl_w_w | where's the server status page? |
| 12:41.58 | Fisker | but no dock only in stock :( |
| 12:42.09 | Fisker | on your character karl_w_w |
| 12:42.09 | Fisker | bam |
| 12:42.12 | karl_w_w | nvm |
| 12:42.47 | Fisker | umad? |
| 12:43.52 | airtonix | no |
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| 12:44.50 | Fisker | oh god |
| 12:44.55 | karl_w_w | yes? |
| 12:44.57 | Fisker | i'm posession of cp |
| 12:45.07 | airtonix | reported |
| 12:45.15 | Fisker | but it was an album :( |
| 12:45.21 | Fisker | (You know the one) |
| 12:45.26 | karl_w_w | there are at least 5 FBI agents in this channel Fisker |
| 12:45.28 | airtonix | nine inch nails? |
| 12:46.00 | Fisker | naw airtonix |
| 12:46.11 | airtonix | justin beibers greatest hits? |
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| 12:59.00 | airtonix | bluspacecow: how's that mineopoly aye? |
| 12:59.08 | airtonix | http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/157-digital-diamond-mineopoly/ |
| 12:59.10 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 12:59.35 | airtonix | we should vote to have that imported into cogworl |
| 12:59.37 | airtonix | d |
| 13:01.03 | Lopeppeppy | cog runs a democracy? Neat |
| 13:01.29 | airtonix | well when there's a poll |
| 13:01.49 | airtonix | but it's really a totalitarian dictatorship |
| 13:01.58 | Fisker | i love me airtonix |
| 13:02.09 | airtonix | you sex you? |
| 13:02.31 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:02.33 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 13:02.35 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 13:02.37 | Fisker | NOT SO HEY airtonix |
| 13:02.46 | bluspacecow | pussy ? |
| 13:03.10 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:05.03 | Lopeppeppy | You made me breakfast once already, Fisker, are you trying to make me fat? |
| 13:05.12 | Fisker | naw Lopeppeppy |
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| 13:09.12 | bt | is there a copyconstructor for frames? |
| 13:09.20 | airtonix | a wut |
| 13:09.55 | bt | in objectbased languages it would copy the object with all variables and other content |
| 13:10.20 | bt | so you wouldnt have to define serveral equal looking frames but just define it once and copy it for other frame instances |
| 13:10.45 | ZorbaBeta | to be honest I haven't seen any UI frameworks that let you do that |
| 13:10.57 | ZorbaBeta | but it's easy enough to make a CreateX function |
| 13:11.36 | bt | did that but had some stuff done in xml, would have to rewrite in lua now to a function |
| 13:11.48 | airtonix | which is a good idea |
| 13:11.51 | airtonix | so you should do that |
| 13:14.24 | bt | well should have done it first place but thought xml is faster as i didnt have t look up lua commands , now its striking back :/ |
| 13:16.23 | airtonix | Fisker: http://www.asusnotebook.com.au/2311_ASUS-NX90JQ-NX90JQ-YZ055V-Notebook-Intel-Core-i7-720QM-with-Win-7-Home-.php |
| 13:16.55 | airtonix | bang and olufsen sound system |
| 13:17.03 | airtonix | sex |
| 13:18.42 | Fisker | nah airtonix |
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| 13:24.13 | Kraps | defragmenting 77% |
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| 13:28.34 | airtonix | calibrating |
| 13:33.30 | Kraps | Cowboys and Aliens only got 44% on RT |
| 13:33.56 | airtonix | Adys: i migrated our sales managers desktop computer from windows7 to natty with gnome classic desktop and the elementary nautilus mod & theme... |
| 13:34.17 | airtonix | Adys: first thing he said was "it's fast! I love it" |
| 13:34.58 | Lopeppeppy | Is Cowboys and Aliens out already? |
| 13:35.25 | Kraps | opening weekend |
| 13:36.07 | airtonix | Adys: it's a shame that gnome-log-viewer can't read remote machines logs... but at least we have : http://logio.org/ |
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| 13:38.24 | Lopeppeppy | I'm... torn now... between Harry Potter and that.... EEEEEeeeeee! |
| 13:38.30 | airtonix | really? |
| 13:38.38 | airtonix | harry potter ws disappointing |
| 13:38.45 | airtonix | you know the formula |
| 13:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't seen HP yet, and I want to, before I go on vacation and everyone tells me the details. |
| 13:39.08 | airtonix | why can't you see both |
| 13:39.08 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: have you read the books? |
| 13:39.26 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: i'l save you the trouble. |
| 13:39.31 | airtonix | there's a thing and he does stuff |
| 13:39.39 | Kraps | with magic |
| 13:39.46 | airtonix | then he goes somewhere and talks and stuff then thing happens and stuff |
| 13:40.04 | airtonix | then some other stuff happens and they do stuff with things and he says "lulz" but then |
| 13:40.10 | airtonix | he does stuff |
| 13:40.28 | airtonix | they think he's doing stuff when he's actually doing "stuff" |
| 13:40.36 | airtonix | so stuff ensues |
| 13:40.43 | airtonix | iin the end, stuff prevails |
| 13:41.09 | airtonix | then bob said to ted: "dude" |
| 13:41.19 | airtonix | but bill didn't like it |
| 13:41.24 | airtonix | so more stuff |
| 13:41.31 | Kraps | airtonix: clearly you didnt see the movie |
| 13:41.32 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: there you don't need to see it now |
| 13:41.49 | Kraps | there is no guy named bob |
| 13:41.54 | airtonix | Kraps: wut? i was accurate |
| 13:42.05 | airtonix | clearly you didn't notice robert |
| 13:42.23 | airtonix | or william |
| 13:42.43 | airtonix | or edward |
| 13:42.52 | airtonix | Kraps: umad? |
| 13:43.04 | Kraps | your face is mad |
| 13:45.17 | Lopeppeppy | Why thank you, airtonix. :P |
| 13:45.35 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: have you read the books? |
| 13:45.54 | Lopeppeppy | Of course, dear. |
| 13:46.04 | Lopeppeppy | I want to see Harry DEAD! D-E-D dead!!!!! |
| 13:46.22 | Kraps | wat |
| 13:46.31 | Kraps | oh then |
| 13:46.57 | Lopeppeppy | Everybody dies. The only one left alive at the end is Luna Lovegood, digging graves with a silver spoon, wearing her Spektrecles. |
| 13:47.28 | Kraps | thats depressing |
| 13:48.48 | Lopeppeppy | Wait, I think that Winky is alive too, but in no condition to help. |
| 13:48.57 | Kraps | lol |
| 13:50.05 | airtonix | there is no spoon |
| 13:50.35 | Lopeppeppy | I knew I was forgetting some detail. Sorry about that. |
| 13:50.57 | airtonix | have you read the book about the chocolate war? |
| 13:51.08 | airtonix | written by an australia author |
| 13:51.14 | airtonix | australian* |
| 13:51.35 | Kraps | wtb a prequel featuring the marauders + snape + lily up to and including sirius confronting peter |
| 13:51.58 | airtonix | wtf |
| 13:52.04 | airtonix | some yank stole the book |
| 13:53.15 | foxlit | marauders? |
| 13:53.25 | foxlit | wouldn't those be hard-countered by lings? |
| 13:53.43 | Kraps | im in ur base foxlit |
| 13:53.52 | Lopeppeppy | I wan to see Wormtail cut off his own finger to salt the explosion site with. Foreshadowing to the hand thing, anyone think? Hmmmmmm????? |
| 13:53.55 | foxlit | Killing my probes, Kraps :( |
| 13:56.04 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: everything in potter foreshadows something else |
| 13:56.51 | Lopeppeppy | Well yeah, that was her way of doing things, really. |
| 14:00.02 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: if you're interested, there a fanfic about snapes childhood that incorporates everything that is known canon about that time |
| 14:00.28 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, neat! We get glimpses, but not a very full view, of Snape's early years. |
| 14:02.00 | Ackis | Fisker, Kraps: did you see my dino d-day message? |
| 14:02.47 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: http://www.hpana.com/forums/topic_view.cfm?tid=84869 |
| 14:02.55 | Kraps | Ackis: where? |
| 14:03.02 | Ackis | last night in IRC |
| 14:03.15 | Ackis | the one about getting the 4 pack if you two were planning on buying it? |
| 14:03.35 | Fisker | wno Ackis |
| 14:03.36 | Kraps | i will not be getting dino d-day |
| 14:03.48 | Fisker | didn't get it |
| 14:03.56 | Ackis | awww |
| 14:03.57 | Ackis | lol |
| 14:05.55 | Lopeppeppy | I'll poke at that over lunch Kraps, thanks! |
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| 14:20.29 | Lopeppeppy | Why is it already 10:20? Why is the rum gone? |
| 14:20.56 | alestane | pours Peppy another mojito. |
| 14:21.46 | alestane | One of these druids trapped in the fire spiders' webs just said me on being freed, "Thank you! Now to see about this burning sensation." |
| 14:22.59 | Fisker | it burns when you pvp? |
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| 14:25.18 | bluspacecow | peppy. |
| 14:25.28 | Lopeppeppy | yes dear? |
| 14:25.33 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:25.42 | bluspacecow | i go sleepys now |
| 14:25.53 | Lopeppeppy | sleep well |
| 14:26.57 | Ackis | is there anyway to get an overlay of your button layouts from spec 1 to spec 2? |
| 14:27.50 | airtonix | Fisker: you should use a lube |
| 14:27.55 | Fisker | umad? |
| 14:27.58 | Fisker | UMAD!? |
| 14:30.29 | airtonix | no |
| 14:30.31 | Fisker | i had lulz btw airtonix |
| 14:30.36 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 14:30.37 | Fisker | i was totally dominating some engineer |
| 14:30.44 | Fisker | killed his sentry farm like fuck |
| 14:30.53 | Fisker | then he kept calling me n00b and shit |
| 14:30.56 | airtonix | i don't know what that means |
| 14:30.57 | Fisker | then i just wrote "umad?" |
| 14:31.07 | Fisker | do you know what "umad?" means? |
| 14:31.09 | Fisker | anyway |
| 14:31.11 | airtonix | no |
| 14:31.16 | Fisker | then he changed class to my hardcounter |
| 14:31.17 | Fisker | i.e. pyro |
| 14:31.20 | Fisker | killed me once |
| 14:31.22 | Fisker | then went "UMAD?" |
| 14:31.24 | Fisker | i lol'd |
| 14:31.29 | airtonix | i had a shelterd upbringin |
| 14:32.07 | airtonix | i was born in a forest where unicorns prance and we hunted for food with bows |
| 14:32.43 | airtonix | then one day bad men in black pyjamas killed my daddy with a sword |
| 14:34.00 | bt | can i set some layerorder besides frame-strata? seems like frames that get updatet naturally land over other frames even if you set the updated frames as parent |
| 14:34.08 | Kraps | offers airtonix a bowl of stfu |
| 14:34.40 | airtonix | Kraps: hi |
| 14:34.48 | Kraps | hey hey |
| 14:34.54 | airtonix | i'll trade you a cup of harden the fuck up |
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| 16:55.50 | nicoli_s | alt + f4 |
| 16:58.27 | Fisker | nah nicoli_s |
| 16:58.30 | Fisker | that just quits the game |
| 16:58.35 | Fisker | if even that |
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| 17:01.20 | airtonix | so star crafter 2 has problems? |
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| 17:03.09 | airtonix | http://www.pandaboard.org/ |
| 17:03.11 | Fisker | your mom is starcrafter2 |
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| 17:23.34 | Torhal|work | kicks Fisker in the |
| 17:24.01 | Fisker | ow my |
| 17:27.09 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:01.24 | airtonix | broseph |
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| 18:05.20 | alestane | http://threepanelsoul.com/2011/07/05/on-questions-and-answers/ |
| 18:06.27 | alestane | Would job searches be better or worse if interviews went like this? http://threepanelsoul.com/2011/05/23/on-skills/ |
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| 18:11.20 | Jamash | I know perl fu |
| 18:13.32 | Jamash | http://www.tetris1d.org/tetris.php |
| 18:13.44 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: http://i.imgur.com/3CLZZ.jpg |
| 18:13.57 | airtonix | it would definitely expose sloppy style |
| 18:14.33 | airtonix | Ackis: umad? |
| 18:14.36 | Jamash | would the plural of regex be regices? |
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| 18:14.53 | airtonix | no |
| 18:15.00 | Jamash | s/no/yes/ |
| 18:15.07 | airtonix | the plural of regular expressions is regular expressions |
| 18:15.13 | Jamash | fail |
| 18:15.17 | airtonix | umad? |
| 18:15.23 | Jamash | as a hatter |
| 18:15.33 | Jamash | from mercury poisoning |
| 18:15.56 | Jamash | ah, mercury, sweetest of the transition metals |
| 18:16.25 | olafski | regicides |
| 18:16.33 | Jamash | now you're talking |
| 18:16.41 | olafski | that's what I'm sayin' |
| 18:16.48 | olafski | this new minecraft enemy sounds fun |
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| 18:18.46 | airtonix | ucreeped? |
| 18:21.17 | olafski | no.. but it does sound fun |
| 18:21.23 | olafski | guess I'll have to keep bow&arrow with me at all times now |
| 18:22.58 | Fisker | olafski |
| 18:23.00 | Fisker | i will end Sixen |
| 18:25.35 | airtonix | yumadtho? |
| 18:33.19 | Torhal|work | Jamash: The plural of regex is either regicide or suicide; I'm thinking the latter. |
| 18:34.34 | alestane | ~regex |
| 18:34.35 | purl | somebody said regex was ^[$%]?s/.*[^\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]/.*?:(?:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\)*/[i]?$ |
| 18:35.18 | alestane | The comment I remember is "Some programmers, when faced with a problem, declare 'I know; I'll use regular expressions.' Now, they have two problems." |
| 18:38.43 | jnwhiteh | Adys: =) |
| 18:38.44 | jnwhiteh | awesome |
| 18:45.47 | zenzelezz | I've seen a few people tweeting about an article where it's said that "on average, Opera users have the highest IQ"... this could be read as a good thing, but it could also be read as "this program is so hard to use you need to be a genius" |
| 18:46.26 | Lopeppeppy | Or it's only used by a small group of physicists on a very specific program for some unknown reason. :P |
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| 18:52.05 | zenzelezz | "Chrome users, is there a way to modify the look of tabs, so that I can tell which tab is open? It's easier to find Waldo." |
| 18:54.38 | Lunessa | I read the article zenzelezz and then went to read the study methodology. I wouldn't place much credence in their results. |
| 18:58.01 | Lopeppeppy | "Fun" science is often not reliable, and makes alot of trouble for legitimate scientific study. |
| 18:59.54 | Lunessa | I don't know about that Lopeppeppy. Neil deGrasse Tyson does a hell of a job. :) |
| 19:00.25 | Adys | jnwhiteh: what is? |
| 19:00.50 | Lopeppeppy | Making science fun isn't the problem. Conducting "fun" studies and calling them science is. |
| 19:01.21 | Lunessa | invites Lopeppeppy to participate in a 'research study.' |
| 19:01.31 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/0HtFo.jpg |
| 19:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | I bet. |
| 19:02.15 | Lunessa | Primate behavioral research! |
| 19:03.12 | Lopeppeppy | Primates do stuff. Then they don't. Then they do. |
| 19:07.41 | zenzelezz | Ackis: pretty stupid thing to do... how many times does a chimpanzee need to attack a person before people stop treating them like that? |
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| 19:12.11 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/app/70420/ |
| 19:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | Rip a person's face off in 3 seconds flat, they can. Wild animals are not tame, end of story. |
| 19:23.51 | olafski | zenzelezz: saw that research too.. it seemed a bit biased, though I guess the results were broadly to be expected |
| 19:24.05 | olafski | it also said that IE6 users have on average an IQ of 80 |
| 19:24.25 | olafski | and opera around 130.. average.. over 100k people |
| 19:24.30 | olafski | (total, not 100k opera users) |
| 19:25.14 | Lopeppeppy | How... spiffy. G+ just recommended that I connect with my ex! *beats it with a big damn hammer* |
| 19:25.31 | olafski | people use google plus? :D |
| 19:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | Frellin' freakin' apparently I shouldn't. Grrrrrrr. |
| 19:26.13 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:26.16 | Fisker | that's life |
| 19:26.30 | zenzelezz | Google+'s "suggested people" doesn't seem very smart yet |
| 19:26.32 | Lopeppeppy | Take that trout and shove it up your pintu, Fisker. |
| 19:26.37 | olafski | I'm connected with a few of my exes too |
| 19:26.43 | olafski | the most recent one doesn't have facebook though |
| 19:27.13 | Lopeppeppy | I think that ex stuff appears to make Peppy super-cranky, 0 to 11 in .3 seconds. |
| 19:27.29 | Lopeppeppy | hugs Fisker. Not his fault. Or the trout's, really. |
| 19:27.32 | Fisker | whats that Lopeppeppy ? |
| 19:30.25 | Lopeppeppy | You figure it out, Fisker, you're a bright troll. |
| 19:30.29 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a cranky Lopeppeppy |
| 19:30.41 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: facebook always suggests I become friends with some exes... leads me to stalk them and go lulz what the fuck was I thinking? |
| 19:31.17 | Lunessa | Um... You were thinking you get the sex? |
| 19:31.30 | Ackis | damn penises |
| 19:32.18 | Lopeppeppy | That's what I said! |
| 19:32.33 | Adys | Heroes of Newerth Goes Free-to-Play |
| 19:32.35 | Adys | hum |
| 19:32.41 | Lopeppeppy | I refuse to click and stalk, I'm smarter than that. I hope. |
| 19:32.49 | mckenziemc | there are ways to fix that, Ackis |
| 19:35.23 | zenzelezz | <Ackis> Lopeppeppy: facebook always suggests I become friends with some exes... <--- having used computers for years, you should know that you should be wary of befriending exes |
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| 19:37.43 | Ackis | I didn't say I did it :P |
| 19:37.55 | Ackis | I'd be too mean :( |
| 19:38.07 | Ackis | just ask Torhal |
| 19:38.56 | zenzelezz | wonders if the exe joke was too well concealed, or just too poor |
| 19:40.05 | Ackis | oh |
| 19:40.05 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:40.24 | Ackis | too well concealed |
| 19:43.34 | Cide | both_ |
| 19:43.35 | Cide | ? |
| 19:45.17 | zenzelezz | probably right |
| 19:50.00 | foxlit | I don't get it :( |
| 19:50.20 | foxlit | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/14333/UIDropDownMenu.lua#61 << The globals set by InitializeHelper appear secure when it terminates |
| 19:51.19 | Torhal|work | Ackis: Lopeppeppy ruined Harry Potter for me. |
| 19:51.49 | Torhal|work | I read scrollback and didn't see her say "SPOILERS!!!!" before it was completely ruined. |
| 19:52.04 | Torhal|work | Therefore, Ackis, you need neutering. |
| 19:52.23 | foxlit | initFunction is http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/14333/CompactUnitFrame.lua#813 , and when it calls UnitPopup_ShowMenu, the very first assignment (dropdownMenu.which) is tainted |
| 19:53.09 | foxlit | I can't seem to spot what taints it :( |
| 19:53.45 | Lopeppeppy | Works for me, Torhal. |
| 19:53.52 | Lopeppeppy | If you wear your Spektrecles for protection. |
| 20:16.27 | Yoshimo | when i die in firelands, tomtom adds a corpse waypoint for the darkshore |
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| 20:18.12 | Dagmar | "Run, bitch! Run!" |
| 20:22.07 | zenzelezz | Yoshimo: "if you can't stay alive here, maybe you should go back and start over" |
| 20:22.13 | Lopeppeppy | I'm gonna go home now. Work sux. |
| 20:22.21 | alestane | Bye. |
| 20:22.46 | Yoshimo | zenzelezz: i feel offended, im horde^^ |
| 20:25.27 | Fisker | lets all gang up on Sixen |
| 20:25.32 | Fisker | you with me or against me alestane ? |
| 20:26.00 | alestane | I think I'm irrelevant, Fisker. |
| 20:26.14 | Fisker | you think wrong |
| 20:27.24 | foxlit | " AT&T claims that users can still "send or receive thousands of emails, surf thousands of Web pages and watch hours of streaming video every month and not be in the top 5 percent of data users." |
| 20:27.52 | foxlit | the hours of streaming video part kind of eats everything else, bandwidth-wise. |
| 20:28.35 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 20:28.56 | Lunessa | foxlit: I stream a lot from Hulu and Netflix and I haven't even gotten close to the 250 GB cap yet. |
| 20:29.09 | Mr_Rabies | i don't even use my connection heavily at all for anything but gaming and streaming video (legally) and i'm generally at 75% of cap or so |
| 20:29.15 | foxlit | Lunessa: the context is mobile devices |
| 20:29.36 | Lunessa | Ah. Streaming video with a 2gb cap is ... pointless. |
| 20:29.52 | Mr_Rabies | oh you're talking mobile cap derp |
| 20:29.59 | Mr_Rabies | i was thinking you were talking about their DSL caps |
| 20:31.05 | Mr_Rabies | i'm paying for a 6mb line and i get an unstable 3 that drops every few hours, and then somehow i get within 50GB of cap every month just about |
| 20:31.18 | Mr_Rabies | i need to move to somewhere with better internet options :[ |
| 20:31.21 | Fisker | :) |
| 20:31.29 | Fisker | i love your poor internet options too |
| 20:31.50 | Mr_Rabies | my internet options are the aformentioned broken dsl, dial up, or satellite |
| 20:32.02 | Fisker | i can get cable or dsl |
| 20:32.09 | Mr_Rabies | used to get 6 mb on the line when it was bellsouth |
| 20:32.25 | Mr_Rabies | but now after at&t has let their infrastructure fall apart i get 3 and it dcs every 4 hours or so |
| 20:33.00 | Lunessa | Wow. I get much better service locally via AT&T |
| 20:35.33 | Cide | 100mbps what's up? |
| 20:36.06 | jnwhiteh | Adys: oh, not you Ackis =) |
| 20:36.20 | Adys | jnwhiteh: ... creepy |
| 20:36.24 | Adys | i realized about 20 seconds ago |
| 20:36.29 | Adys | i was searching for "imgur" on the chan |
| 20:36.32 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 20:36.35 | Adys | and saw ackis' message |
| 20:38.56 | Fisker | i wish i had google music invites |
| 20:40.25 | Fisker | jnwhiteh doesn't care though :( |
| 20:40.52 | Adys | i dont get it |
| 20:40.55 | Adys | isnt it US only? |
| 20:41.22 | alestane | http://www.happyplace.com/4042/most-absurd-warnings-and-product-disclaimers |
| 20:41.53 | Fisker | yeah Adys |
| 20:57.38 | Xzempt | how do you return a quest id when you turn in the quest |
| 20:57.42 | Xzempt | is that even possible |
| 21:04.39 | Adys | Xzempt: it is to an extent |
| 21:04.47 | Adys | compare the id in your log to the quest title |
| 21:06.45 | Adys | linux freaks: is it possible to use a third-party device's camera (eg laptop webcam, possibly phone camera) as a camera on a different computer? |
| 21:09.55 | Kraps | http://static.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4ddd2bed689dc.jpg |
| 21:10.43 | nevcairiel | its the US, they have to say that or you could sue them! |
| 21:11.00 | Kraps | clearly |
| 21:11.14 | Kraps | http://static.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4ddd2d50d0e62.jpg |
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| 21:21.53 | Kraps | http://static.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4de7e8e77d329.jpg |
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| 21:29.36 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 21:29.42 | Fisker | don't you wish you had a google music invite? |
| 21:30.04 | nevcairiel | not really, no |
| 21:31.04 | Fisker | why not? |
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| 21:32.19 | Fisker | umad? |
| 21:36.13 | Kraps | http://static.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4db9bf5da4460.jpg |
| 21:36.16 | Kraps | what is this |
| 21:36.25 | Fisker | your mom |
| 21:37.53 | Fisker | i don't think a comma would help though |
| 21:38.10 | mikma | kraps: y u so comma |
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| 21:45.59 | foxlit | Kraps: where would you put that comma? |
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| 21:46.38 | foxlit | the a seems extraneous. |
| 21:47.16 | Kraps | period after man |
| 21:47.36 | Kraps | the phrase is "fucking-a" |
| 21:47.38 | nevcairiel | i would have put it before man |
| 21:49.13 | Seerah | ^^ |
| 21:50.21 | Kraps | http://static.someecards.com/someecards/images/feed_assets/4d9c8e0c99d66.jpg |
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| 21:54.05 | Kraps | hey just got my HS equivalency diploma |
| 21:54.56 | Lunessa | Congratulations . Off to college with you? |
| 21:55.20 | Kraps | i'm pondering it |
| 21:56.06 | Cairenn | Congrats Kraps :) |
| 21:56.14 | Kraps | thanks |
| 21:59.20 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://pastebin.com || 4.2.x ToC: 40200 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Congrats Kraps on your HSED! |
| 21:59.34 | Kraps | lol :D |
| 22:00.00 | Cairenn | Hey, why not? It's a big deal, and I for one am very proud of you! |
| 22:00.38 | Kraps | awww thanks! |
| 22:05.08 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 22:05.17 | Cairenn | Hi Fisker |
| 22:05.34 | Fisker | not so hey Kraps though |
| 22:05.38 | Fisker | what is HSED btw? |
| 22:05.59 | Cairenn | (5:52:44 PM) Kraps: hey just got my HS equivalency diploma |
| 22:06.53 | Kraps | not so hey yourself Fisker |
| 22:06.56 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:07.03 | Fisker | umean |
| 22:07.35 | Kraps | in fact, my hey is way more not than yours |
| 22:08.50 | Fisker | i wonder what i have done to deserve such a cruel fate |
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| 22:12.01 | Kraps | you're Fisker |
| 22:36.12 | jnwhiteh | firelands support is odd/nonexistant it seems |
| 22:36.15 | jnwhiteh | how do I get there |
| 22:36.17 | jnwhiteh | I need to test it out |
| 22:36.28 | foxlit | firewhoo? |
| 22:36.34 | jnwhiteh | Firelands |
| 22:36.41 | jnwhiteh | that whole expansion that just came out? |
| 22:36.54 | jnwhiteh | err path |
| 22:36.55 | jnwhiteh | patch |
| 22:37.10 | foxlit | I'm just wondering what requires explicit support to deal with a new zone. |
| 22:37.35 | jnwhiteh | other than relative geometry? |
| 22:37.37 | jnwhiteh | I have no idea |
| 22:37.40 | jnwhiteh | that's why I need to go there |
| 22:37.45 | jnwhiteh | so I can see what the problem is |
| 22:37.59 | jnwhiteh | but 'firewhoo' doesn't exactly express your concern about why my addon needs explicit support for a zone |
| 22:38.13 | jnwhiteh | Does anyone know how I get there? |
| 22:38.34 | foxlit | The raid instance? |
| 22:38.58 | foxlit | portal at the base of the spire in hyjal. |
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| 22:39.13 | jnwhiteh | I'm talking about the zone |
| 22:39.20 | jnwhiteh | I don't know if its always instances? |
| 22:39.23 | jnwhiteh | instanced? |
| 22:39.45 | Cide | you want to get in through the big sulfuron keep or whatever in hyjal |
| 22:39.54 | Cide | where you see ragnaros when you fly through the zone the first time |
| 22:39.56 | foxlit | it really depends on where you want to get to |
| 22:40.00 | foxlit | The daily hub? |
| 22:40.03 | jnwhiteh | I need to get to the zone. |
| 22:40.04 | foxlit | Or the raid instance? |
| 22:40.11 | jnwhiteh | not the raid instance, that's not a zone |
| 22:40.12 | foxlit | They're technically both Firelands. |
| 22:40.27 | jnwhiteh | thanks Cide. |
| 22:40.28 | Cide | pretty sure it is a zone by blizzard's definition :) |
| 22:40.36 | Cide | if you want the daily hub you have to do a few quests however |
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| 22:40.47 | jnwhiteh | that's fine. |
| 22:40.59 | Cide | those quests start at the shrine of malorne |
| 22:41.12 | Cide | provided you have done the hyjal zone before on that character |
| 22:41.36 | foxlit | I think the hub is typically called Molten Front, not Firelands |
| 22:42.12 | foxlit | But well, you can tell us when you get there :) |
| 22:50.06 | karl_w_w | yeah the zone is called molten front |
| 22:50.33 | karl_w_w | its not instanced, but i dont quite understand what it is |
| 22:51.04 | foxlit | karl_w_w: just phasing |
| 22:51.06 | Arrowmaster | 4 packages from amazon in 4 days, and im still waiting for a 5th, wonder if it will come tomorrow |
| 22:51.18 | karl_w_w | phasing? |
| 22:51.24 | karl_w_w | im talking about where it is |
| 22:51.37 | Fisker | the firelands questing area is the molten front not firelands |
| 22:51.42 | Fisker | though i guess they share map id or something |
| 22:51.46 | foxlit | lorewise, it's still firelands |
| 22:51.54 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 22:52.28 | Fisker | maybe a google music invite would cheer me up |
| 22:52.33 | Fisker | oh yay |
| 22:52.35 | Fisker | i got it |
| 22:53.09 | Fisker | now i don't know what to do with them |
| 22:53.14 | karl_w_w | the raid instance is just like any other raid instance |
| 22:53.27 | karl_w_w | so i dont see why it would need special support |
| 22:53.35 | karl_w_w | it's the molten front that's peculiar |
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| 23:16.09 | Adys | adys@azura ~/src/git % git init -g flipper |
| 23:16.09 | Adys | /usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory |
| 23:16.13 | Adys | DAMN IT |
| 23:16.16 | Adys | hub is in ruby |
| 23:17.38 | Fisker | you wouldn't ruby a gem |
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