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| 01:34.29 | karl_w_w | http://podcast.as34763.net/frankskinner/20110531095636.mp3 |
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| 01:43.38 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5813389/console-battlefield-3-is-half-the-fps-of-modern-warfare-3 |
| 01:44.10 | Arrowmaster | im confused, how is CoD on a console running at 60fps supposed to be any different than it running at 30fps for most people? |
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| 01:45.02 | Arrowmaster | the only A/V output on the 360 i know of that does more than 29.97fps is the vga cable |
| 01:46.36 | Wobin | Arrowmaster: duh. it's a higher number |
| 01:46.40 | Wobin | it -must- be better! |
| 01:47.12 | Arrowmaster | i guess hdmi does too but i didnt think most tv's could receive a 60hz signal |
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| 01:47.52 | Mr_Rabies | Arrowmaster: most hdtvs are 60hz default D: |
| 01:47.59 | Jamash | fyi if you change links to gawker sites from whatever.com to blog.whatever.com it makes it less terrible |
| 01:48.29 | Mr_Rabies | if it's a steady 30 it's okay probably |
| 01:48.38 | Mr_Rabies | but if it dips below 20 or so you'll definitely see problems |
| 01:49.00 | Wobin | Jamash: I'm not noticing any difference? |
| 01:49.02 | Mr_Rabies | anything higher is of course better |
| 01:49.05 | Jamash | if you're playing a FPS on a console you don't deserve more than 30 frames/s |
| 01:49.22 | Mr_Rabies | but things are reasonably smooth at a steady 30 |
| 01:49.22 | Jamash | http://blog.kotaku.com/5813389/console-battlefield-3-is-half-the-fps-of-modern-warfare-3 doesn't look better? |
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| 01:50.13 | Arrowmaster | Mr_Rabies: most lcd panels are 60hz but nothing else in the tv world works at 60hz except interlaced 30fps video |
| 01:50.31 | Jamash | um, everything works at 60hz now |
| 01:50.43 | Mr_Rabies | i had the console version of BF:BC2 Jamash, it was pretty fun |
| 01:50.54 | Mr_Rabies | and MW2 |
| 01:50.58 | Mr_Rabies | MW2 is really fun on 360 |
| 01:51.41 | Mr_Rabies | some people can't use analog sticks very well, but I'm equally deadly with either m+kb or gamepad |
| 01:51.55 | Arrowmaster | really they should be using 72hz for hdtv panels but its cheaper to just use 60hz and fuckup the video quality |
| 01:52.06 | Jamash | ok, I'll play with mouse and keyboard on pc and you play with gamepad on a console |
| 01:52.14 | Wobin | Jamash: the blog version scrolls as one unit |
| 01:52.17 | Wobin | but that's about it = |
| 01:52.18 | Wobin | \ |
| 01:52.22 | Jamash | it works with noscript |
| 01:52.33 | Mr_Rabies | http://ca.kotaku.com/ still works :D |
| 01:52.34 | Wobin | ah |
| 01:52.37 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait |
| 01:52.39 | Mr_Rabies | maybe it doesn't |
| 01:52.40 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 01:52.45 | Wobin | I'd allowed all temporarily to see what the difference was |
| 01:52.45 | Mr_Rabies | no there it goes it's just slow |
| 01:52.48 | Jamash | which is infinitely better than the non-blog version which displays a blank area where the content would go |
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| 03:45.44 | Mr_Rabies | What is #wowuidev's favorite Archaeology addon? |
| 03:46.01 | Mr_Rabies | developers of archaeology addons are welcome to swordfight for my approval |
| 03:46.46 | Cairenn | I hear people talking about Torhals' Archy all the time ... http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18283-Archy-ArchaeologyAssistant.html |
| 03:47.40 | Mr_Rabies | but...but...swordfight :( |
| 03:48.24 | Cairenn | It depends on what you want it for, though. I find this one is just a nice handy little extra for my minimap: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19883-_MiniBlobs.html |
| 03:48.34 | Cairenn | swordfights with Mr_Rabies |
| 03:48.42 | Mr_Rabies | thanks Cair, that's the second or third time someone's suggested archy so I'll give it a try |
| 03:49.18 | Wobin | Archaeology Helper |
| 03:49.24 | Wobin | and Homing Digeon =P |
| 03:49.25 | Cairenn | it's got 73k+ downloads on WoWI |
| 03:49.33 | Cairenn | homing digeon is a riot |
| 03:49.48 | Cairenn | (the name) |
| 03:49.51 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 03:50.58 | Cairenn | here's arch helper: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19037-ArchaeologyHelper.html and here's homing digeon: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19429-HomingDigeon.html |
| 03:51.13 | Wobin | I like AH, cause it makes pinpointing the next survey point easier, once you're onsite |
| 03:51.41 | Arrowmaster | bah game of thrones is over and i want the next season now |
| 03:52.08 | Wobin | what, already? |
| 03:52.11 | Wobin | that was a short game |
| 03:52.20 | Arrowmaster | 10 episodes |
| 03:52.20 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:53.24 | Arrowmaster | now i really want to get the books and read them but ive got enough stuff already that i still havent read |
| 03:54.15 | Arrowmaster | i read a bit more of children of dune while the power was out on wednesday, i started reading that book at the airport on the way to blizzcon2010 |
| 03:54.26 | Ackis | GAME OF THRONES BONER |
| 03:55.00 | Arrowmaster | GAME OF THRONES ENDING WAS AWESOME! |
| 03:55.10 | Wobin | I just finished lstening to the audiobook of American Gods |
| 03:55.19 | Wobin | that was awesome |
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| 04:38.59 | karl_w_w | <Cairenn> (the name) <3 |
| 04:39.11 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 04:39.27 | karl_w_w | <Wobin> I like AH, cause it makes pinpointing the next survey point easier, once you're onsite <- how does it do that? |
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| 04:41.02 | Wobin | You survey, then line yourself up with the surveyoriter |
| 04:41.06 | Wobin | and press the appropriate colour |
| 04:41.25 | karl_w_w | ah yeah there was an addon that did just that |
| 04:41.27 | Wobin | and it'll place a shaded arc on the minimap/hudmap to indicate the area covered by it |
| 04:41.34 | mckenziemc | this is that addon |
| 04:41.35 | karl_w_w | archeo triangle i think it was |
| 04:41.46 | karl_w_w | but it was never worth the effort of lining yourself up |
| 04:41.55 | Wobin | it's more 'accurate' than the one that just draws a single line |
| 04:42.15 | karl_w_w | archy remembers the past dig spots and colour codes them by distance |
| 04:42.19 | karl_w_w | so u just dig and go |
| 04:42.23 | karl_w_w | much quicker for me |
| 04:42.29 | Wobin | but it usually means I only need to line up 3 at most |
| 04:42.37 | mckenziemc | you can do that with AH + gathermate |
| 04:42.38 | Wobin | karl_w_w: that's fine if you have them all recorded |
| 04:42.51 | Wobin | trust me, AH makes it much easier |
| 04:42.58 | mckenziemc | ^ |
| 04:43.03 | Wobin | (esp with gathermate) |
| 04:43.05 | karl_w_w | i dont need to trust you, im talking from experience :P |
| 04:43.15 | mckenziemc | you have experience with AH/ |
| 04:43.17 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 04:43.30 | Wobin | (you're talking like you don't =P) |
| 04:43.50 | karl_w_w | the time taken to line yourself up with the indicator is wasted time |
| 04:43.59 | karl_w_w | you can be mounted and on the move already |
| 04:43.59 | Wobin | or 'experience' with an addon that isn't actually AH? |
| 04:44.06 | mckenziemc | you can mount while aligning |
| 04:44.08 | karl_w_w | by the time you're lined up and clicked the button |
| 04:44.22 | Wobin | It takes you 1.5 seconds to mount |
| 04:44.25 | Wobin | unless you're a druid |
| 04:44.36 | Wobin | during which, you've lined yourself up and pressed the button |
| 04:44.38 | mckenziemc | also, bind teh buttons |
| 04:44.53 | karl_w_w | still not worth the hassle imo :P |
| 04:45.01 | Wobin | you... uh... haven't tried it =P |
| 04:45.06 | Wobin | so you can't 'speak from experience' |
| 04:45.32 | Wobin | I don't know, really |
| 04:45.42 | Wobin | any time anyone tries to advise on archaology addons |
| 04:45.56 | mckenziemc | swordfight! |
| 04:45.57 | Wobin | people are too permanently set into what they -think- is the best |
| 04:46.06 | Wobin | they never want to try anything new |
| 04:46.09 | karl_w_w | experience lining up with the indicator |
| 04:46.11 | Wobin | because it's -too much hassle- |
| 04:46.12 | mckenziemc | this goes beyond advise on arch addons D: |
| 04:46.13 | Wobin | hahaa |
| 04:46.15 | Wobin | too much hassle |
| 04:46.24 | Wobin | WHY ARE YOU DOING ARCHAEOLOGY AT ALL? |
| 04:46.38 | mckenziemc | trying a digsite that AH would've shown you was not the right one is a hassle |
| 04:46.47 | karl_w_w | <Wobin> they never want to try anything new <- archy is my second addon |
| 04:47.14 | mckenziemc | non sequitur |
| 04:47.38 | Wobin | he doesn't need to listen, he already experienced them all =P |
| 04:47.40 | karl_w_w | what |
| 04:48.11 | mckenziemc | new = suggestions recieved after you've picked one that works |
| 04:48.14 | karl_w_w | archy is something new that I tried, but it does not follow that I never want to try anything new? |
| 04:48.17 | karl_w_w | are you trolling? |
| 04:48.21 | mckenziemc | not = something after the first one |
| 04:48.28 | karl_w_w | the first one worked fine |
| 04:48.30 | Wobin | <karl_w_w> i dont need to trust you, im talking from experience :P |
| 04:48.30 | Wobin | <mckenziemc> you have experience with AH/ |
| 04:48.34 | Wobin | <karl_w_w> the time taken to line yourself up with the indicator is wasted time |
| 04:48.44 | Dagmar | Maybe in 5.0 there'll be a chance someone will try and jump your claim |
| 04:48.45 | Wobin | you've disregarded the suggestion |
| 04:49.00 | Wobin | because you've already made a decision that nothing can be improved |
| 04:49.23 | Wobin | meanwhile, all future surveys are -red- =P |
| 04:49.30 | Wobin | so you end up with every digsite being red |
| 04:49.32 | Wobin | oh no |
| 04:50.28 | karl_w_w | <mckenziemc> trying a digsite that AH would've shown you was not the right one is a hassle <- im still trying to work out how this would happen |
| 04:50.32 | Wobin | The time saved, I've found, on the stupidly long digsites, is that, even with three red surveys, I've triangulated the correct spot |
| 04:51.04 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: because you speak from lack of experience |
| 04:51.30 | karl_w_w | perhaps I just have exceptional spacial awareness |
| 04:51.43 | Wobin | alright |
| 04:51.51 | Wobin | then you don't need addons =) |
| 04:52.07 | karl_w_w | that's quite a leap |
| 04:52.10 | Wobin | the rest of us mere mortals will have to trudge along =P |
| 04:52.21 | Dagmar | I think you've been getting lucky because the direction is more inaccurate the farther away from it you are as well, as far as I've ben able to tell |
| 04:52.48 | karl_w_w | 966 solves I'm on |
| 04:52.51 | mckenziemc | AH uses a wider arc for the red digsites |
| 04:52.59 | karl_w_w | don't think I've been lucky that often |
| 04:53.09 | Wobin | it's effectively infinite |
| 04:53.19 | Wobin | although I want AH to crop at zone edges |
| 04:53.35 | Wobin | I'm not sure how ridiculously difficult that would be, graphically, though |
| 04:54.17 | Wobin | in any case, karl doesn't need suggestions for archaeology addons, he's doing fine on his own |
| 04:54.37 | Wobin | Mr_Rabies wanted it =P |
| 04:54.39 | karl_w_w | it's a 90 degree arc on red digsites |
| 04:54.49 | karl_w_w | red surveys* |
| 04:54.58 | Mr_Rabies | :o |
| 04:55.08 | Wobin | <Mr_Rabies> What is #wowuidev's favorite Archaeology addon? |
| 04:55.57 | mckenziemc | AH uses an arc measure > 90 for red |
| 04:56.06 | mckenziemc | though idk if anyone besides blizzard really knows |
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| 04:56.31 | mckenziemc | doubt karl_w_w has collected hard empirical evidence :p |
| 04:57.06 | karl_w_w | 966 digs, never one more than 45 degrees off the indicator |
| 04:57.22 | mckenziemc | where's your hard data |
| 04:58.42 | mckenziemc | actually |
| 04:58.56 | mckenziemc | how can you know this, if you don't align yourself with the marker? |
| 04:59.10 | karl_w_w | I look at the direction it's pointing |
| 04:59.14 | mckenziemc | hard to measure angles with much accuracy at a glance :p |
| 04:59.31 | karl_w_w | if you say so |
| 05:03.13 | Wobin | mckenziemc: why are you still trying =P |
| 05:03.24 | Wobin | mckenziemc: we know AH rocks, and that's enough =) |
| 05:03.45 | Wobin | karl_w_w doesn't need it |
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| 05:11.20 | mckenziemc | why are there *eight* threads about the authenticator change? O.o |
| 05:11.35 | mckenziemc | well, in one series |
| 05:11.40 | karl_w_w | because blizzard haven't deleted them :P |
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| 05:12.50 | Fisker | hey karl_w_w |
| 05:15.09 | karl_w_w | Fisker! |
| 05:17.32 | mckenziemc | heh at screenshot poll |
| 05:18.09 | mckenziemc | i calculated how often i took sceenshots sometime recently, it came out to an average of 1 every two hours since the time i started playing wow D: |
| 05:18.16 | mckenziemc | iirc |
| 05:19.48 | mckenziemc | most of the time in the past they were of recount data so i could look over it later (which i rarely did), now they're for quick notes >< |
| 05:20.05 | mckenziemc | so i guess very few of them really count |
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| 05:23.39 | karl_w_w | ive taken 146 in the last 2.5 years |
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| 05:26.01 | mckenziemc | 2008: 207, 2009: 981, 2010: 5516, first half of 2011: 2297 |
| 05:26.14 | mckenziemc | i have them sorted by year atm but haven't gone through them yet |
| 05:26.27 | mckenziemc | most should be going to the trash though |
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| 05:27.18 | karl_w_w | most of mine are taken by accident when trying to press delete in a hurry |
| 05:27.27 | karl_w_w | backspace* |
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| 05:27.39 | mckenziemc | lol |
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| 05:29.08 | mckenziemc | fries bluspacecow |
| 05:29.15 | airtonix | SlartyBartFast! |
| 05:29.23 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 05:29.25 | karl_w_w | interesting, 1 SS is all black |
| 05:32.01 | mckenziemc | my stomache said hi back, friedspacecow |
| 05:33.35 | karl_w_w | I should take more screenshots of BG scorecards |
| 05:34.43 | bluspacecow | \o to yr stomach then |
| 05:36.03 | mckenziemc | stabs karl_w_w with granger causality tests |
| 05:37.30 | karl_w_w | why would you do such a thing |
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| 05:48.58 | Thunder_Child | thats iriating, i can not seem to connect to anything on an HTTPS connection |
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| 05:57.00 | bluspacecow | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/14d41615-6ede-49c9-9c25-3ca3ee7fd882.gif |
| 05:58.48 | mckenziemc | i can has bluspacecowburger? |
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| 06:27.53 | mckenziemc | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/altoholic/tickets/436-altoholic-doesnt-work/ lol |
| 06:28.05 | mckenziemc | (works fine here) |
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| 06:48.19 | mckenziemc | http://www.makeuseof.com/tech-fun/piracy-dummies/ lol |
| 06:48.24 | mckenziemc | (most likely old) |
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| 06:55.19 | karl_w_w | 3 of those 4 outcomes are wrong |
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| 06:55.45 | karl_w_w | pirates tend to live at sea, I don't live at sea |
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| 07:01.39 | airtonix | Fisker: http://d3uwin5q170wpc.cloudfront.net/photo/137671_700b.jpg |
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| 07:06.04 | mckenziemc | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large pecan pie |
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| 07:06.50 | karl_w_w | can you have spaces in the filename of a lua file in the toc? |
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| 07:18.31 | Adys | cbreak: ping |
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| 07:21.38 | mckenziemc | pirates also prevent global warming |
| 07:21.43 | mckenziemc | @karl |
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| 07:28.19 | cbreak_work | Adys: hmm? :) |
| 07:28.47 | Adys | cbreak_work: you have any idea how to properly maximize a window in qt? showMaximized() just resizes it to the max size :( |
| 07:28.59 | Adys | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/application-windows.html#window-geometry |
| 07:29.01 | cbreak_work | there's a showFullscreen |
| 07:29.05 | Adys | thats not it |
| 07:29.08 | Adys | that removes the frames |
| 07:29.10 | cbreak_work | or what do you mean with maximize? |
| 07:29.22 | Adys | non-movable max-size frame |
| 07:29.43 | cbreak_work | hmm... that must be a windows thing, or linux thing. |
| 07:29.48 | Adys | Nor does X11 provide a way to maximize a window. QWidget::showMaximized() has to emulate the feature. Its result depends on the result of QWidget::frameGeometry() and the capability of the window manager to do proper window placement, neither of which can be guaranteed. |
| 07:29.48 | cbreak_work | I've never seen that |
| 07:30.09 | Adys | its both in linux and windows |
| 07:30.21 | Adys | i have two monitors tho so i notice it very easily |
| 07:30.30 | Adys | guess most people dont care |
| 07:30.30 | cbreak_work | in os x, all windows with title bars are moveable |
| 07:30.43 | cbreak_work | those maximized windows have toolbars? |
| 07:30.47 | Adys | yup |
| 07:30.58 | cbreak_work | meaning title bars. hmm... |
| 07:31.29 | cbreak_work | I only know the method you've linked |
| 07:31.34 | cbreak_work | well, showMaximized |
| 07:32.00 | cbreak_work | you can of course manually position it |
| 07:33.08 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:33.12 | Adys | its not a position thing |
| 07:33.15 | Adys | sec, lemme upload a ss |
| 07:33.29 | cbreak_work | there's geometry and frameGeometry btw |
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| 07:33.57 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/VkkC2.jpg - non-maximized |
| 07:34.01 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/RHPca.jpg - maximized |
| 07:34.56 | Adys | the windows are the exact same size, but on-screen, their frame extends sort of 1px beyond the screen edges, and they aren't movable in the screen they're in |
| 07:35.58 | cbreak_work | so, you want to stop moving? |
| 07:36.01 | cbreak_work | that should be easy |
| 07:36.05 | cbreak_work | overwrite resizeEvent |
| 07:36.18 | Adys | fuck, sec |
| 07:36.44 | Adys | cbreak_work: http://i.imgur.com/YHmOd.jpg maximized |
| 07:37.08 | cbreak_work | hmm. |
| 07:37.09 | Adys | notice the 4x1px difference |
| 07:38.24 | Adys | i figure if showMaximized says its emulated it just doesnt work, but id really like some sort of way to "fix" it |
| 07:38.30 | Adys | i know chrome does it properly but thats gtk |
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| 07:51.28 | harl | hi |
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| 08:02.30 | bluspacecow | http://io9.com/5813072/rotting-hill-a-sweet-little-zombie-romcom-about-the-dangers-of-undead-sex |
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| 08:17.25 | blu|goGym | <---- |
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| 10:10.07 | airtonix | Fisker: green lantern? hasslehof or Halfassed Hammond? |
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| 11:17.49 | zenzio | everytime I hear someone speak of "discrete mathematics", I picture a bunch of geeks hiding somewhere, whispering equations at each other |
| 11:18.12 | Cairenn | rofl |
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| 11:35.51 | dusf | when installing a compiled wowui should i remove/disable/remove saved variables files for all my pre-existing addons? |
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| 11:40.07 | Cairenn | dusf: if they include a WTF in their download, then yes. But as always, back up your existing one, in case something goes wrong and you want to revert. |
| 11:41.33 | dusf | Cairenn: ty |
| 11:41.53 | dusf | i think for me a preconfigured ui is the way to go, there are just too many addons out there to choose from, and too many settings to configure just so |
| 11:42.46 | dusf | Cairenn: i know there's an addon allowing me to enable and disable preinstalled addons without going back to the character selection screen, but is there way to install new addons without logging out of my account? |
| 11:44.06 | Cairenn | Nope, sorry. |
| 11:45.02 | dusf | nps, ty Cairenn |
| 11:45.09 | Cairenn | You're welcome |
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| 12:06.56 | zenzio | wonders what's going on with his home connection |
| 12:14.07 | Maldivia | *grumble* |
| 12:20.32 | Maldivia | ... I hate VM crashes :/ |
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| 12:26.32 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
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| 12:27.19 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn. So this is what a Monday looks like, hmm? |
| 12:27.25 | Lopeppeppy | Can't say I enjoy this thing. |
| 12:27.35 | Cairenn | Agreed |
| 12:28.57 | Lopeppeppy | I expect that once the sun comes up, I'll do better. It's barbaric to work when there's no sunshine! |
| 12:29.08 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 12:49.17 | airtonix | Lopeppeppy: what is this sunshine you speak of? |
| 12:51.54 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.54 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.55 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.03 | foxlit | Such a complicated way to reinvent UnitFactionGroup |
| 12:53.01 | zenzio | O_o |
| 12:53.24 | foxlit | Though perhaps that's actually not it |
| 12:58.57 | Cairenn | airtonix: it's that yellow-orange thing that is up and that burns us |
| 12:59.54 | Lopeppeppy | The bright one, the day star. |
| 13:00.02 | Cairenn | yeah, that |
| 13:03.43 | bluspacecow | hai2u Peppy |
| 13:03.52 | bluspacecow | i has no clean DIshed |
| 13:03.56 | bluspacecow | *dishes |
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| 13:04.30 | airtonix | Cairenn: oh ok |
| 13:04.39 | airtonix | never heard of it |
| 13:05.17 | airtonix | bluspacecow: how typically bovine of you |
| 13:05.37 | bluspacecow | hard to wash dishes with hoofs |
| 13:05.45 | bluspacecow | *throws dishes in bath* |
| 13:05.49 | airtonix | use palm leaves |
| 13:05.56 | airtonix | hoho |
| 13:05.57 | bluspacecow | *Mooooooooos at it* |
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| 13:09.44 | Lopeppeppy | bluspacecow, go do some dishes if you're out of them! |
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| 13:09.49 | Adys | Just watch Derren Brown's Miracles for Sale tv special, i dont know why it took me that long |
| 13:09.53 | Adys | strong recommended watch |
| 13:09.55 | bluspacecow | i am |
| 13:10.03 | bluspacecow | i' m mooooing at them |
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| 13:11.53 | airtonix | hoho btw |
| 13:11.59 | airtonix | chrome password manager |
| 13:12.04 | airtonix | locked by seahorse on gnome |
| 13:12.08 | airtonix | bam |
| 13:12.19 | Lopeppeppy | Gnomes are good at locking things? |
| 13:12.27 | bluspacecow | gnome rogues |
| 13:12.37 | bluspacecow | almost as lethal as goblin rouges |
| 13:12.48 | airtonix | taurens know all about gnome vets |
| 13:14.54 | Lopeppeppy | We stab from underneath, rawr. |
| 13:18.06 | bluspacecow | *cups groin* |
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| 13:24.57 | airtonix | it's ok Lopeppeppy isn't a gnome. |
| 13:25.18 | Lopeppeppy | Am not? *checks under the hood* Am so! |
| 13:25.24 | alestane | edges nervously away from airtonix. |
| 13:25.27 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.56 | airtonix | I know a dinosaur wearing the skin of a gnome when i see one |
| 13:26.13 | airtonix | this disguise may work on the villagers |
| 13:26.30 | alestane | Who's delusional? I just know better than to be standing next to you when she unleashes the weasels of retribution. |
| 13:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | Chromie is not a gnome! |
| 13:27.38 | airtonix | yay swype 3 |
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| 13:55.05 | Shirik | there's an international surfing day? |
| 13:55.30 | Kalroth | every day! |
| 13:55.59 | zenzio | "(official|international) (.+) day" sucks; people just invent them all over the place |
| 13:56.02 | airtonix | umad? |
| 13:56.33 | airtonix | Offical International Umad Brosephine Day |
| 13:56.46 | Maldivia | speak like a pirate, system administrator appreciation day, etc etc? |
| 13:57.01 | zenzio | yeah, it's just stupid |
| 13:57.42 | alestane | Two great reasons to like the dryads in Northrend: 1) Awesome armor; 2) I *swear* they're the only dryads in the game and aren't bubble-brained fluffbunnies. |
| 13:57.46 | airtonix | International International Day Haters Day |
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| 13:58.32 | airtonix | zenzio: say that 12 times fast |
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| 14:09.43 | Cide | HELLO SHIRIK |
| 14:09.48 | Shirik | HELLO CIDE |
| 14:09.52 | Shirik | I AM ABOUT TO CATCH A PLANE |
| 14:09.55 | Cide | excellent |
| 14:09.58 | Cide | don't hurt yourself |
| 14:10.02 | Shirik | ? |
| 14:10.09 | Cide | I figure they move at high speeds |
| 14:10.41 | Cide | catching it at the wrong moment may be cause for concern |
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| 14:25.51 | airtonix | use a bungee cord |
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| 15:00.44 | Adys | Cide: i don't think thats what he meant |
| 15:00.59 | Adys | Cide: but a plane is a weird name for a disease |
| 15:02.34 | airtonix | what did he catch from you ? |
| 15:05.08 | Dagmar | WTF is this about Valve supposedly stealing DoTA character copyrights? |
| 15:10.45 | Dagmar | chalks it up to idiotic kotaku posters |
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| 15:18.53 | pompy | sigh, http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/82667686647177216 |
| 15:20.22 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: Valve was making their own version of dota/hon/lol |
| 15:20.28 | Thunder_Child | was/is |
| 15:20.50 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.00 | Kraps_w | whats antisec? |
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| 15:26.20 | Fisker | it's /b/lackup Kraps_w |
| 15:26.29 | Fisker | they want people to hack shit |
| 15:26.31 | Fisker | and stuff |
| 15:27.09 | Kraps_w | i dont understand why they went after gaming sites f |
| 15:27.17 | Kraps_w | first |
| 15:32.55 | olafski | srsly, with the money these "hackers" are making, surely they can afford to have someone who knows proper english draft up a believable mail :s "When we carry out a routine check when the account, we have evidence to show that your account has been involved in the disputed transactions." |
| 15:33.40 | Kraps_w | how are they making money? |
| 15:33.42 | Thunder_Child | it's ESL to ESL |
| 15:34.13 | Kraps_w | nvm |
| 15:34.55 | olafski | oh I see people were talking about another kind of hackers too, sorry kraps_w :) |
| 15:34.58 | Kraps_w | my brain is sluggish |
| 15:35.36 | olafski | ,) |
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| 15:41.04 | airtonix | i engrish fer u olafski |
| 15:41.37 | airtonix | wut du u advice? |
| 15:44.15 | Kraps_w | i heard it puts the lotion on its skin |
| 15:44.32 | Lopeppeppy | when it's told! |
| 15:45.01 | airtonix | the precious |
| 15:47.21 | Kraps_w | it hurts us |
| 15:47.39 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 15:48.11 | airtonix | anyway ... |
| 15:48.22 | airtonix | why so golem? |
| 15:48.45 | airtonix | it's not like it's International We Love Golem Day |
| 15:52.45 | Kraps_w | i finished batman:AA again, scarecrow is still best part of the game |
| 15:54.13 | nicoli_s | i need to play that game |
| 15:54.19 | nicoli_s | tried it out on OnLive and enjoyed it |
| 15:58.18 | Kraps_w | its arguably the greatest licensed game in history |
| 15:58.29 | Dagmar | Literacy fail. |
| 15:58.36 | Dagmar | G-o-l-l-u-m |
| 15:59.33 | Thunder_Child | that game was garbage on PC |
| 16:00.47 | Kraps_w | Thunder_Child |
| 16:00.55 | Kraps_w | why are you so wrong |
| 16:01.11 | Thunder_Child | hey, bad controls are bad |
| 16:01.38 | Kraps_w | i had no problem |
| 16:01.57 | Kraps_w | are you buying Fate of the World? |
| 16:02.02 | Thunder_Child | this doesnt make them good, it makes you adjusted |
| 16:02.02 | Kraps_w | i did |
| 16:02.09 | Thunder_Child | i think i already own it |
| 16:02.35 | Thunder_Child | i'm really enjoying Atom Zombie Smasher |
| 16:04.22 | Kraps_w | what about chem-something? |
| 16:06.51 | Thunder_Child | if it goes on sale, i suspect i would |
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| 16:07.48 | Kraps_w | i want to know if its good |
| 16:07.57 | Jamash | nothing is good |
| 16:09.29 | Thunder_Child | i dont know, i have not played it |
| 16:09.39 | Kraps_w | you're doing it wrong Jamash: nothing is true, everything is permitted |
| 16:10.10 | Jamash | true story |
| 16:10.53 | pompy | http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/82836801731043328 llol everyone is like "its up for me" |
| 16:12.03 | alestane | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-28911.html O.o |
| 16:12.38 | Jamash | I'm waiting for LulzSec to take down twitter |
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| 16:14.05 | Fisker | they should leak a list of twitter users and passwords |
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| 16:14.43 | Kraps_w | no |
| 16:14.52 | Jamash | they should leak their own twitter password imo |
| 16:15.39 | Fisker | exactly Jamash |
| 16:16.53 | Kraps_w | that doesnt make sense |
| 16:17.12 | airtonix | neither do you |
| 16:17.18 | Jamash | you know what doesn't make sense? |
| 16:17.23 | airtonix | dollars? |
| 16:17.40 | airtonix | :> |
| 16:17.42 | Jamash | doing meth |
| 16:17.48 | Jamash | but on meth it does |
| 16:17.54 | airtonix | I do math every day |
| 16:18.11 | airtonix | it's a hard habit to kick |
| 16:18.16 | Kraps_w | O_o |
| 16:18.21 | airtonix | and i hated algebra |
| 16:18.46 | Kraps_w | i think the reality of this channel is collapsing |
| 16:19.02 | Jamash | we have to go deeper |
| 16:19.14 | Jamash | ~inception |
| 16:19.14 | purl | i guess inception is http://inception.davepedu.com/ |
| 16:20.38 | Kalroth | this channel is a methematical formula! |
| 16:21.45 | Jamash | you're an inanimate fucking object! |
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| 16:22.16 | Kalroth | that's a pretty good pickup line |
| 16:22.51 | Kalroth | oh hey, windows key + left/right arrow is a nifty hotkey on windows 7! |
| 16:22.57 | Jamash | yes, yes it is |
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| 16:23.40 | Lopeppeppy | Is that how you restart after a blue screen error? *innocent* |
| 16:24.13 | zenzelezz | "During the tenth season of the sitcom Frasier, in the episode "Lilith Needs a Favor", Spiner made two brief cameos as a fellow airline passenger of Frasier Crane's ex-wife, Lilith Sternin.[episode needed]" -- does the episode reference (including link) in the first half sentence not count? o_O |
| 16:26.05 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdnZ1l5TxJk - cogwheel you might be interested |
| 16:26.09 | Lopeppeppy | Could be that the [episode needed] was in the original entry, someone added the info, but the [] didn't get taken out? |
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| 16:30.53 | Kraps_w | zenzelezz: be bold! |
| 16:31.29 | zenzelezz | * <b>zenzelezz</b> :Erroneous Nickname |
| 16:31.30 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 16:32.15 | Jamash | monday night combat 75% off sale on US-Steam ends in 30 minutes |
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| 16:33.31 | Kraps_w | Jamash: people in the forum are talking about empty servers and such |
| 16:33.40 | Jamash | :*( |
| 16:35.08 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 16:35.10 | Fisker | lets have sex |
| 16:35.14 | Jamash | gross |
| 16:35.18 | Fisker | oh really? |
| 16:36.28 | Jamash | a/s/l? |
| 16:36.40 | Xinhuan | gooooooooooo HUK! |
| 16:36.55 | airtonix | 86, f, Greece |
| 16:37.31 | Fisker | hot airtonix |
| 16:38.01 | Adys | Fisker: I was misled by the internet |
| 16:38.06 | airtonix | u liekda moustacheo |
| 16:38.34 | Jamash | 6000/m/the entire universe |
| 16:39.03 | Kraps_w | Xinhuan: whos he up against? |
| 16:39.12 | Xinhuan | moon |
| 16:39.25 | Xinhuan | he won the first game out of BO5 |
| 16:39.36 | Xinhuan | losing only ONE unit in the WHOLE game |
| 16:39.51 | Xinhuan | and day9 was screaming |
| 16:40.17 | Jamash | linky |
| 16:40.21 | Xinhuan | http://www.justin.tv/day9tv |
| 16:40.23 | Jamash | I'm always interested in day9 losing it |
| 16:40.34 | Xinhuan | huk's playing SOOOO good |
| 16:40.37 | Xinhuan | this tourny |
| 16:42.34 | Fisker | why Adys ? |
| 16:42.46 | Adys | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdnZ1l5TxJk |
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| 16:50.17 | Jamash | justin.tv doesn't like me :( |
| 16:50.39 | sylvanaar | what is the best way to collect application usage statistics without pissing people off. |
| 16:51.08 | airtonix | Fisker: it's a trap, i'm citing you to prove it |
| 16:51.21 | Lopeppeppy | What kind of application, sylvanaar? |
| 16:51.28 | airtonix | lua editor Lopeppeppy |
| 16:52.00 | sylvanaar | si si |
| 16:52.13 | airtonix | i don't cohort with spanish people |
| 16:52.24 | sylvanaar | i dont want to spam them with "can i collect statistics" plus they dont all speak english |
| 16:52.38 | airtonix | just install a rootkit |
| 16:52.55 | Lopeppeppy | ... or ask once, with short messages in whatever you feel the primary languages are? |
| 16:53.07 | airtonix | l2 il8n |
| 16:53.41 | zenzelezz | il8n? |
| 16:53.45 | sylvanaar | the other option would be to add a feature that uses the web to get information and collect usage statistics on those requests |
| 16:53.53 | airtonix | sylvanaar: i'll translate it into aussie for you |
| 16:54.14 | airtonix | "Strueth cobba, spare two bob?" |
| 16:54.27 | sylvanaar | for example how many people downloaded API X |
| 16:54.29 | airtonix | "Awww common ya daego!" |
| 16:54.55 | Jamash | crossdomain.xml isn't loading for justin.tv :( |
| 16:55.02 | airtonix | delete it |
| 16:55.14 | Jamash | delete what? |
| 16:55.21 | Xinhuan | are you in europe? |
| 16:55.25 | Jamash | US |
| 16:55.29 | airtonix | i'm away |
| 16:55.35 | Xinhuan | because it appears most EU are having issues, US aren't |
| 16:56.36 | Hjalte | Winners get 100.000 SEK? wow |
| 16:56.44 | Jamash | that's a lot of SEKs |
| 16:56.46 | Xinhuan | gogo game 3 |
| 16:56.52 | sylvanaar | ill try asking and see what happens |
| 16:57.16 | Jamash | from what I can tell, they're loading crossdomain.xml from an IP address and their vhost doesn't know what domain it's associated with |
| 16:57.57 | foxlit | whoah, what happened to their mikes? |
| 16:58.11 | Xinhuan | use a proxy or disable using a proxy? |
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| 17:08.32 | Jamash | actually I think justin.tv is just busted |
| 17:12.33 | Kraps_w | oh snap http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/181216/how-do-i-down-rate-a-blue-post |
| 17:12.43 | sylvanaar | hrm these guys checked theier class files into version control |
| 17:13.08 | Kraps_w | OH SNAP http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/181217/instead-of-spending-time-with-authenticator |
| 17:13.18 | sylvanaar | https://github.com/pubnub/pubnub-api/tree/master/java/org/json |
| 17:13.31 | Kraps_w | is it the second coming of Tseric? |
| 17:13.33 | sylvanaar | yeah that authenticator change was nice |
| 17:22.32 | Yoshimo | cFFFF2222 , could that be a color code? |
| 17:23.42 | Jamash | ya |
| 17:23.50 | Jamash | RGBA |
| 17:24.17 | zenzelezz | isn't it ARGB? |
| 17:24.46 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 17:24.54 | sylvanaar | but aa is always ff |
| 17:25.17 | sylvanaar | aarrggbb |
| 17:25.29 | Hjalte | Last game in Dreamhack finals coming up http://dreamhack.tv/ |
| 17:25.42 | Jamash | stop taunting me with broken streams |
| 17:29.13 | Hjalte | I had some stuttering before but reloading fixed it |
| 17:29.51 | Jamash | I get nothing whatsoever |
| 17:31.16 | zenzelezz | I just seem to get ads; has it started yet? |
| 17:31.27 | Hjalte | It just started |
| 17:31.32 | Hjalte | 1:30 into the game |
| 17:31.47 | Hjalte | Did you select the sc2 stream? |
| 17:31.55 | Jamash | I guess I'll just watch the podcast |
| 17:32.37 | Kraps_w | this is neat http://www.pantherproducts.co.uk/Articles/Graphics/anti_aliasing.shtml |
| 17:37.45 | Hjalte | Jamash: Just kill yourself already, this game is pretty epic |
| 17:39.37 | zenzelezz | I tend to prefer longer games, but that was neat |
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| 17:49.11 | Kraps_w | id like to sleep at work |
| 17:49.28 | mckenziemc | has anyone else had occasional fatal exceptions when closing WoW? |
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| 17:54.58 | Lopeppeppy | I was never able to solve mine, it was the primary reason I gave up playing it on the desktop and bought a laptop. |
| 17:58.36 | mckenziemc | i had a BSOD shortly after one of the times WoW crashed, that mentioned a file that's part of my antivirus (avast) so maybe the AV is causing the issue |
| 17:58.42 | mckenziemc | i'll check wow forums later |
| 18:08.22 | Kraps_w | so |
| 18:08.56 | Kraps_w | philosophical question |
| 18:09.10 | Kraps_w | what is love? |
| 18:10.40 | haste | baby don't hurt me |
| 18:12.18 | Kraps_w | also, what the shit http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/82546649192345600 http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/82547122033004544 |
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| 18:15.47 | Dagmar | Kraps_W: THe Infragard thing is old news, and there's probably a bunch of fuckers being written up there for doing stupid things like using their first name as their password |
| 18:16.04 | Dagmar | ...and if you didn't want your site compromised you should have used different passwords, yo. |
| 18:20.55 | Kraps_w | you can get "written up" for bad passwords? |
| 18:35.18 | Dagmar | In reality, no. |
| 18:35.49 | Dagmar | You should really be *fired* if you're working in IT Security and you dare use your first name as a password. |
| 18:36.25 | Dagmar | It's generally written in HR policies that you will comply with all guidelines, yadda, yadda, but in practice everyone always sits on their goddamn hands and does nothing. |
| 18:37.06 | Dagmar | If you're working for the FBI in the 'cyber-crimes' division and you do that, they should just have you skinned alive. |
| 18:39.04 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 18:39.10 | Shirik | I managed to catch the plane without hurting myself |
| 18:42.52 | Cide | excellent |
| 18:42.53 | Cide | good job |
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| 18:43.54 | Lunessa | station |
| 18:44.01 | mckenziemc | lunesta |
| 18:44.33 | Shirik | also, Cide, I think I got more honor over the weekend than TS did |
| 18:45.08 | Shirik | because of things like this http://www.wowtcg.com/tournaments/tid/9814283826/standings |
| 18:45.18 | Shirik | head judge = bonus points :P |
| 18:45.23 | Shirik | even if you don't participate |
| 18:45.47 | Cide | honor_ |
| 18:45.49 | Cide | ? |
| 18:46.00 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:46.05 | Shirik | there's a ladder system across the world |
| 18:46.07 | Shirik | based on honor |
| 18:46.18 | Cide | oh, nice |
| 18:46.24 | Shirik | like 20 base points, then 4 points for every round you win |
| 18:46.31 | Shirik | and 3 points for every round you judge :P |
| 18:47.17 | Cide | haha, nice |
| 18:47.35 | Shirik | http://www.wowtcg.com/tournaments/tid/6947182009/standings |
| 18:47.36 | Shirik | 80 points! |
| 18:47.41 | Shirik | because there is way too many rounds in the NACC |
| 18:49.07 | Kraps_w | damn Shirik that sounds like fun :( |
| 18:49.17 | Shirik | it is :D |
| 18:49.57 | Shirik | btw |
| 18:49.59 | Shirik | coolest judge ever |
| 18:50.01 | Shirik | JudgeMontoyaAntonio10028670 |
| 18:50.06 | Shirik | Antonio Montoya |
| 18:50.22 | Shirik | he acts just like the guy in princess bride I swear to god |
| 18:50.28 | Lunessa | Say hello to his little friend? |
| 18:50.29 | Cide | hahaha |
| 18:55.28 | zenzelezz | that's Montana, Lunessa |
| 18:55.41 | Lunessa | I know. But it was still funny |
| 18:56.30 | zenzelezz | I remember doing Karazhan on my tank with my "/shoot /s Say hello to my little friend" macro |
| 18:57.17 | zenzelezz | http://theoatmeal.com/blog/miracle_whip |
| 18:57.35 | Adys | zenzelezz: musical chairs! |
| 18:59.49 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: Wow that's a good one |
| 19:00.18 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: it made me chuckle even though I'm not familiar with miracle whip |
| 19:02.21 | Dagmar | I like how the slap in the face at the end is completely unexpected |
| 19:03.57 | foxlit | "An alternative nightmare is that the undergraduate who solves it will publish his solution in French." |
| 19:10.25 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:10.40 | Kraps_w | Fisker Fisker |
| 19:10.56 | Fisker | Kraps_w |
| 19:11.25 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: It's like mayonnaise, only sweet. |
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| 19:16.27 | Shirik | "The latest victim of a large scale attack is Sega Corp, which has admitted that security of its Sega Pass website database in Europe had been compromised. The personal information on all of its 1,290,755 registered users has been stolen." |
| 19:16.45 | Shirik | I really hope this makes business people wake up and realize how little security "professionals" actually know |
| 19:17.27 | Mr_Rabies | that's kind of lulzsec's plan |
| 19:17.56 | Mr_Rabies | less about "making them wake up and realize it" and more "make fun of how terrible it is" |
| 19:19.34 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: its not that security 'professionals' dont know much, its that the corps previously didnt give a fuck and didnt want to spend any money on security when it had no visible benefit |
| 19:20.19 | Arrowmaster | cheaper to deal with the PR issue and maybe tiny fine later than pay any money now |
| 19:20.33 | Kraps_w | they need to hit the big guys, like national chain banks or any company on the dow index |
| 19:21.36 | Arrowmaster | but with everything happening at once now its an exponential PR issue |
| 19:22.36 | Shirik | the problem is the same average joe people are coding online payment processing systems as are coding crappy flash games |
| 19:22.54 | Shirik | and they don't know what they actually need to do |
| 19:23.35 | Arrowmaster | PCI needs to start acting on that then |
| 19:24.22 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2011/06/japan-builds-computer-8-quadrillion-calculations/ |
| 19:24.25 | Adys | points for the smiley ^ |
| 19:24.44 | Arrowmaster | start revoking a few companies access for not conforming to the requirements and the rest should start looking at their stuff before they get theirs revoked |
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| 19:27.01 | Arrowmaster | as for the user personal information issue, if this keeps going then i hope some new requirements are put into place |
| 19:27.19 | Arrowmaster | for one i would like to see requirements for password storage |
| 19:27.34 | Shirik | how about no passwords |
| 19:27.50 | Arrowmaster | or that, as long as its an open system |
| 19:27.53 | Ackis | is the authenticator not being asked for limited to just one PC or can two PCs have that feature? |
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| 19:32.52 | Kraps_w | no passwords meaning swiping cards? |
| 19:38.25 | Arrowmaster | i actually want to make a system that combines OTP and PKI |
| 19:39.58 | Shirik | ^ |
| 19:40.29 | Shirik | I want every site to be using PKI |
| 19:40.42 | Arrowmaster | and that would actually solve the issue that was just highlighted with the rsa breach that OTP alone is not secure |
| 19:41.07 | Fisker | Ackis two PCs Ackis |
| 19:41.12 | Fisker | and maybe even moar |
| 19:41.24 | Shirik | ok bye |
| 19:41.28 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:41.29 | Fisker | bye Shirik |
| 19:41.32 | Fisker | i wanna fuck you |
| 19:42.56 | Arrowmaster | i want a hardware based PKI system where the private key is on a piece of hardware you control and is never exposed, allowing you to use it with any untrusted system without risking compromising the entire thing |
| 19:47.49 | Kraps_w | y so horny Fisker |
| 19:49.00 | haste | Fisker: two days Fisker, two days! |
| 19:49.45 | mckenziemc | two days? you're supposed to see a doctor after 4 *hours* |
| 19:51.53 | haste | mckenziemc: silly you, like I would need such aid |
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| 19:53.21 | sylvanaar | what do you guys think: http://www.screencast.com/t/ymcjVD3Y2Z |
| 19:56.24 | Fisker | sup haste ? |
| 19:56.43 | haste | Fisker: also, six days! six days! |
| 19:56.46 | Kraps_w | wow its 4:00 already |
| 19:57.03 | Fisker | sup haste ? |
| 19:57.30 | haste | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSCvYU4_R-A going to a live with this guy playing, amongst more sane artists :D |
| 20:00.35 | mckenziemc | haste: not you, Fisker |
| 20:01.58 | Kraps_w | heh, climate policy is like a global game of the price is right |
| 20:10.43 | Adys | "index" is the borrowed-latin noun equivalent to "MIT+10 student who ends up at mcdonalds" |
| 20:11.56 | Adys | i have a lengthy explanation why but nobody cares |
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| 20:28.08 | haste | industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwn8uW9v9ww |
| 20:48.47 | Adys | dont i love my guild forums. |
| 20:49.35 | Lunessa | This ... makes me .. angry... and sad ... and very, very, very angry. http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/6/20/ |
| 20:49.46 | Adys | some guy posted an article about the french govt trying to pass more laws in order to have blackpen-eraser control over the net |
| 20:50.29 | Adys | guy2 replies with (summarized) "who cares; you can't say "fuck" or "shit" on tv without being prosecuted and thats a lot more perverse" |
| 20:51.49 | Adys | in other news, guy2 plays swg. only swg. |
| 20:52.12 | cbreak | since when can you not say fuck or shit on tv? |
| 20:52.52 | Adys | since never; he's full of it, but since apparently nobody can tell him, he doesn't know |
| 20:53.25 | cbreak | you might have to translate fuck and shit to french if you want to show it in france though... |
| 20:54.04 | Adys | there has to be an emote for "raging 70 year old grumpyface" |
| 20:55.15 | alestane | "and when I need a new password I let my daughter go fucking crazy nuts on the keyboard. And then I say whoâs my little hash function? Who is it? She knows who." |
| 20:55.28 | Maldivia | the fuck/shit comment made me think of how the JLo nip-slip is all other the US entertainment news today... but it happened on German TV, and noone in Germany (or the rest of EU for that matter) cares :) |
| 20:56.03 | cbreak | there was something in the newspaper a few weeks ago |
| 20:56.18 | cbreak | apparently some model went to some public event without underpants, and people noticed. |
| 20:56.24 | cbreak | and she was news for one day |
| 20:56.40 | cbreak | and then she wasn't anymore. |
| 20:56.52 | alestane | Lunessa, I probably missed some article or event that explains what that comic has to do with the Escapist. |
| 20:57.14 | Maldivia | well, the last time there was a "nip-slip" on american TV, it caused a major uproar, making live broadcasts being time-delayed etc |
| 20:57.16 | Lunessa | alestane: The Escapist was one of LuLzSec's first targets last week |
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| 20:57.41 | cbreak | a not very relevant target... |
| 20:57.47 | cbreak | they only did some lame DDOSing |
| 20:57.54 | cbreak | no sql injected password stealing |
| 20:58.02 | cbreak | no defacing of publically viewable web pages |
| 20:58.05 | cbreak | boring. |
| 20:58.28 | Lunessa | Still, the point of the comic is that people get upset, then DO NOTHING or worse pretend it isn't happening. |
| 20:58.47 | Maldivia | it still boggles my mind why there are SO SO many sites that still has sql injection vulnerabilities |
| 20:59.06 | Lunessa | Yes. Many, many, many. |
| 20:59.45 | Maldivia | rule number one: NEVER trust the user |
| 21:00.14 | cbreak | rule number zero: Don't execute code unless you have to. |
| 21:00.19 | Lunessa | But the LuLzSec guys aren't really after improved security. They hopped up teenagers smashing mailboxes from a moving car because they're bored and they can claim higher motives. |
| 21:01.26 | cbreak | I consider them background noise. |
| 21:01.30 | cbreak | like bad weather |
| 21:01.33 | Mr_Rabies | as far as i know they've never claimed higher motives |
| 21:01.39 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 21:01.46 | Lunessa | http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20072675-245/lulzsec-anonymous-announce-hacking-campaign/ |
| 21:01.46 | alestane | Well, Lunessa, I thin kpart of the point of that comic in particular is that people are afraid that they will make themselves targets be speaking out. |
| 21:01.49 | Mr_Rabies | they took down magnets.com because they wouldn't tell them how magnets work |
| 21:01.50 | Lunessa | They have today. |
| 21:01.52 | cbreak | it might be that the rain didn't want to make people improve security against floods |
| 21:01.57 | cbreak | but it doesn't hurt if it does |
| 21:01.58 | alestane | Which is sad, and frequently infuriating. |
| 21:02.22 | Adys | not to defend lulzsec, but when i see websites having stored plaintext password, its their fucking fault and i seriously hope it makes other idiots reconsider some common security practices |
| 21:02.41 | Lunessa | alestane: Not to Godwin myself, but... that's why people didn't speak out in Nazi Germany or Rwanda - they didn't want to be next. |
| 21:03.06 | Lunessa | And it makes me ANGRY. |
| 21:03.08 | alestane | "and I did not speak out, because I was not a trade unionist." |
| 21:03.40 | Maldivia | Adys: yeah - and I always get a really bad feelinh when I register on a site, and they send you a confirmation mail, which includes your password in clear text... |
| 21:03.48 | Adys | ya |
| 21:04.11 | Adys | I changed my main email for a third time, going on a new set of passwords |
| 21:04.35 | cbreak | Adys: considered using one email address per account/service? |
| 21:04.41 | cbreak | and one password per account/service? |
| 21:04.44 | Adys | no, I used to but that got messy |
| 21:04.46 | Lunessa | I avoid signing up for anything on the web these days. It's pretty frustrating to think there's cool shit I can |
| 21:05.00 | Adys | but this time im only signing in with either my old credentials, or my new google account through openid |
| 21:05.13 | Lunessa | can't use because FEAR mongering ASSHOLES and LAZY implementers are everywhere |
| 21:05.17 | cbreak | you actually found things that use openid? |
| 21:05.37 | cbreak | I used to use it for /., but somehow they broke their authentication and I can't log in since months |
| 21:06.08 | Adys | cbreak: google auth supports oauth and shit so turns out many sites support it |
| 21:06.28 | Adys | its the new a-la-mode on most websites (LOOK WE HAVE A PLETHORA OF BUTTONS WITH ICONS FROM POPULAR WEBSITES) |
| 21:06.45 | cbreak | ok... so I have my own OpenID server... and I should use google to authenticate me? :/ |
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| 21:06.54 | Adys | no? |
| 21:06.58 | Adys | you can use any provider you want |
| 21:07.14 | Adys | though tbh custom provider is rarely supported |
| 21:07.34 | cbreak | where's the difference to custom providers I wonder |
| 21:07.45 | cbreak | my server probably counts as custom |
| 21:08.03 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: fsdn has always had a fucking terrible openid implementation, it flat out WILL NOT WORK with my openid and they have zero plans to fix it afaik |
| 21:08.39 | Adys | if a website makes it hard to register for any reason, i flat out refuse to register |
| 21:08.40 | Arrowmaster | because i use an i-name instead of a url |
| 21:09.01 | cbreak | i-name? Looking for trouble with AAPL? |
| 21:09.14 | Adys | extension of the day |
| 21:09.15 | Adys | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/plpjkjplknknmhfhkjgcfgofclmlnine# |
| 21:09.34 | cbreak | funny. |
| 21:10.57 | cbreak | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/polyglop/ |
| 21:16.44 | Maldivia | hmm... the perfect host, why have I not heard about that movie till now... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVqMrcakPg0 |
| 21:25.11 | Maldivia | ohh, it seems something is about to happen with the armory api soon... |
| 21:26.06 | cbreak | transformed to paid service? |
| 21:26.59 | Maldivia | well, a sticky thread was started to "track changes and updates as well as API downtime" |
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| 22:32.05 | Lunessa | Worth a look. http://www.designtaxi.com/news/34955/In-Self-Portraits-Photographer-Catches-Herself-Levitating/ |
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| 22:34.11 | jnwhiteh | drunk. |
| 22:34.13 | jnwhiteh | just saying. |
| 22:38.03 | Shirik|Ghost | it broked Lunessa |
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| 22:38.30 | Lunessa | It's a slooooooow server. Took a long time for all the images to load for me. |
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| 22:44.24 | Shirik|Ghost | pop quiz |
| 22:44.30 | Shirik|Ghost | File uploaded to Wikipedia, NO.JPG |
| 22:44.36 | Shirik|Ghost | without looking, what is it a picture of? |
| 22:45.43 | Kraps | vader? |
| 22:46.08 | Beornhelm | an ugly girl |
| 22:46.27 | Lunessa | Shirik|Ghost: This is the internet. It's a penis. |
| 22:46.42 | Shirik|Ghost | "NovomÄstský orchestr" |
| 22:48.17 | jnwhiteh | so, I get motion sick |
| 22:48.19 | jnwhiteh | have since I was a kid |
| 22:48.31 | jnwhiteh | but there was so much wine! |
| 22:48.52 | jnwhiteh | but I did find my umbrella |
| 22:48.56 | jnwhiteh | this is a positive thing |
| 22:49.16 | Kraps | http://fnoschese.wordpress.com/2011/06/16/angry-birds-in-the-physics-classroom/ |
| 22:51.12 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: awesome. |
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| 22:54.59 | Kraps | Shirik|Ghost: what |
| 22:55.06 | Shirik|Ghost | ? |
| 22:56.41 | Kraps | that last thing you wrote |
| 22:58.06 | Shirik|Ghost | confused |
| 22:58.18 | jnwhiteh | UMAD? |
| 23:00.02 | Kraps | [06:46:44]Shirik|Ghost"NovomÄstský orchestr" |
| 23:00.11 | Kraps | l2scroll |
| 23:03.44 | mckenziemc | l2search |
| 23:03.50 | mckenziemc | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Novom%C4%9Bstsk%C3%BD+orchestr |
| 23:04.21 | mckenziemc | you can get that translated yourself if you want, i hope :p |
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| 23:12.16 | mckenziemc | slaps Bibi around a bit with a large coconut |
| 23:12.28 | Bibi | okay |
| 23:12.38 | Lunessa | Did it migrate? |
| 23:12.55 | Kraps | there a walkthrough of the beginning of the new deus ex game |
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| 23:48.04 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: probably, but why do you need one? |
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| 23:49.25 | Kraps | TC-Laptop: there is one is what i meant |
| 23:58.12 | sylvanaar | did I post this here: http://www.screencast.com/t/gRczrQJo3 |
