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| 00:25.33 | kd3 | geez |
| 00:25.48 | kd3 | another 0-day flash exploit? in... 8? 9? days |
| 00:30.21 | A-KO | that's old news |
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| 00:51.39 | Zhinjio | anyone have a 1.6.6 minecraft client that can test connecting to my server? |
| 00:51.49 | Zhinjio | I'm trying to figure out if my friend is screwed up or my port map is |
| 00:51.59 | Zhinjio | msg me plx |
| 00:59.47 | tem | Zhinjio, I do |
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| 01:15.00 | TC-Laptop | dont trust tem Zhinjio, he is just going to try to drunkenly grope you. |
| 01:16.39 | Zhinjio | mmmmm |
| 01:16.40 | Zhinjio | groping |
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| 02:01.52 | Kraps | drools all over his room |
| 02:03.33 | Kraps | also http://hassonybeenhackedthisweek.com/ |
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| 02:09.29 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5812264/ea-says-it-was-valve-who-expelled-crysis-2-from-steam eh? |
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| 02:10.21 | Dagmar | Oh yes and we're really going to take EA's word |
| 02:11.24 | Arrowmaster | well that took twice as long as they said the power would be out |
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| 02:13.02 | Kraps | speaking of corporate idiots http://kotaku.com/5812131/negative-duke-reviews-could-lead-to-pr-shitlist |
| 02:14.00 | Dagmar | I'm sure they'll be worried to death they won't get a pre-release copy of the next Duke |
| 02:14.23 | Dagmar | The PR firm definitely got kicked to the curb. :) |
| 02:17.10 | Dagmar | newbold: THat roof in the jpg is actually sort of unimaginiative. |
| 02:17.27 | ScratchMonkey | Is there an addon that tells me which variable dailies are available today? Something that communicates with others running it. |
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| 02:26.26 | Ackis | those types of addons have never been all that successful |
| 02:45.38 | Kraps | when did the weiner story break? |
| 02:47.47 | Dagmar | Which part? The "This guy is sending pictures of his dick to people", the "OMG HAXZ0RS DID IT NOT ME", or the more recent "Okay, it was me, but I'm not resigning" part? |
| 02:47.48 | Kraps | never mind, google trends was being a jerk |
| 02:48.20 | Kraps | Dagmar: the third part |
| 02:48.30 | Dagmar | ABout a week ago I think |
| 02:49.41 | Kraps | thanks |
| 02:50.08 | Dagmar | Between Wiener and Santorum, I'm kinda suprised the GOP is even still bothering to try right now |
| 02:50.22 | Kraps | haha |
| 02:51.38 | Dagmar | Hell, the NY Post had a front-pager of "OBAMA BEATS WEINER" |
| 02:51.59 | Dagmar | ...and don't _even_ GOogle about "Santorum" with Safe Search off. |
| 02:52.04 | Iriel | Dagmar: you missed out "I didn't do anything bad but I wont categorically say I didn't do it, I couldn't be certain it wasn't a picture of me" |
| 02:52.24 | Dagmar | Oh I didn't miss it. |
| 02:52.31 | Iriel | I mean in your timeline |
| 02:52.43 | Iriel | or was that coincident with the haxxors |
| 02:52.59 | Iriel | I heard them at different times, but indirectly |
| 02:52.59 | Dagmar | He was talkign a whole bunch of crap for a few days |
| 02:53.49 | Kraps | Iriel: yeah, that was the weirdest thing |
| 02:54.21 | Iriel | Kraps: It was almost like he was trying to come to the edge of lying without actually lying, but failing to grasp the whole "what is a lie" concept |
| 03:00.17 | Dagmar | I find it more amusing he didn't grasp the "stick something in there to make it look bigger" concept |
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| 03:04.04 | Cairenn | OFFS! Shame on Vancouver fans! |
| 03:04.17 | Cairenn | s/on/on some/ |
| 03:04.30 | Ackis | they booed their own team it looked like |
| 03:04.37 | Cairenn | They're rioting |
| 03:04.42 | Ackis | already? lulz |
| 03:04.44 | Ackis | I didn't know that |
| 03:04.45 | Cairenn | Yeah |
| 03:04.51 | Ackis | *sigh* |
| 03:04.53 | Cairenn | That's what prompted my comment |
| 03:04.56 | Cairenn | Exactly |
| 03:06.55 | Kraps | Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers 2012 ? |
| 03:07.27 | Cairenn | I absolutely can not understand why people do stupid ass things like that. Talk about making us look bad .... |
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| 03:08.13 | Ackis | afk flying to Vancouver to loot |
| 03:08.19 | Cairenn | *snark* |
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| 03:15.27 | Kraps | Cairenn: what, everyone hates the US, canada is all cuddly |
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| 03:19.26 | kd3 | eesh, coming down hard enough to knock out dsl |
| 03:19.30 | kd3 | yay rain, boo hail |
| 03:20.10 | Arrowmaster | at least youve got power |
| 03:20.50 | kd3 | it blinked earlier when I was out to eat. the entire restaurant just went 'oooh' for a sec |
| 03:22.20 | Arrowmaster | we had arc'ing power lines earlier then the power was out while they were trying to replace equipment |
| 03:24.47 | kd3 | ick |
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| 03:29.35 | Arrowmaster | apparently they blew something and were regulating some stuff by hand and thats what caused the arc'ing powerlines, said surges were causing the lines to electromagnetically attract each other and short |
| 03:30.05 | Dagmar | Union workers, I take it |
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| 03:42.23 | Arrowmaster | so im thinking about buying one of these http://www.apc.com/products/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR1500G |
| 03:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: I have something very, very similar. I'd recommend them |
| 03:43.35 | Arrowmaster | but its 865watts max, my psu is 900w, what happens if my psu tries to draw too much power? |
| 03:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: nothing good. :) |
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| 03:44.13 | ScytheBlade1 | While it is on wall power, you're generally fine |
| 03:44.19 | ScytheBlade1 | It may do some funky things, but you're fine |
| 03:44.26 | ScytheBlade1 | On battery, you best not |
| 03:45.21 | Kraps | huh, jon stewart is a close friend of wiener |
| 03:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | probably not anymore! |
| 03:45.45 | Arrowmaster | wonder if i can get apcupsd to unmount my raid array when it switches to battery, that would reduce potential power use a lot |
| 03:45.52 | Dagmar | The UPS makes a high-pitched keening sound, generally. |
| 03:46.06 | mckenziemc | silly Altoholic |
| 03:46.28 | mckenziemc | Elementium Lockbox, Source: Throne of the Four Winds, Al'Akir |
| 03:46.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: something like "sync; sync; sync; sync; sync; hdparm (etc)" might work |
| 03:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: however really, the chances of a 900W PSU actually pulling 900W is pretty slim, so don't hook anything but your tower up to it and you are fine |
| 03:47.49 | Arrowmaster | well im generally not worried about writing to my raid array since i only manually transfer data to it, nothing writes to it automatically like torrent clients |
| 03:48.11 | Arrowmaster | but anything reading from it could cause unneeded power use |
| 03:48.39 | mckenziemc | put then in a NAS unit on a different UPS |
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| 03:49.50 | kd3|phone | Ack. Looks like the DSLAM got taken out. Router thinks the phone line's not connected. |
| 03:50.37 | kd3|phone | s/router/modem/ |
| 03:53.13 | kd3|phone | Thankfully, still have power. Dunno how much longer. |
| 03:56.55 | ScytheBlade1 | awesome :( |
| 03:58.42 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I have something very similar also |
| 03:59.02 | Iriel | Kraps: I believe they were roommates at one point |
| 03:59.30 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: i'm watching the daily show from when the story broke, stewarts doing his thing but he gets this uncomfortable/pleading look sometimes |
| 03:59.42 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: I have the BackUPS XS 1500 |
| 04:00.01 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: And I have its predecessor also (though that's on its 2nd battery) |
| 04:00.04 | Dagmar | You'll have to work at it to overload that thing |
| 04:00.11 | Kraps | Iriel: the lived in the same house or something stewart said |
| 04:00.36 | Dagmar | My 950 needs it's battery replaced, but it never complained about me running a firewall, my MythTV box, the cable box, and the HD-PVR off it simultaneously. Oh and the cablemodem. |
| 04:00.46 | Iriel | Yeah, it can handle my mac pro running full out during a brief outage |
| 04:01.04 | Arrowmaster | i was planning to run my computer, lcd, router, and cable modem off of it |
| 04:01.09 | Dagmar | Also, let's be honest. If you're buying a small UPS, it's not really meant to get you through anything extended. |
| 04:01.32 | Dagmar | It's meant to buy you like 3-4 minutes to shut down, with an optional minute or three to decide if this outage will be long enough to require shutting down |
| 04:01.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah that 1500VA one only lasts 4 minutes at max power draw |
| 04:01.56 | nebula169 | Ii have a xs 1500, too, I run my pc, lcd, modem and router off it, get about 6 min or so |
| 04:01.57 | Dagmar | That rig in the front room waits sixty whole secons. |
| 04:02.06 | Iriel | The chance you're at max power draw though is very low |
| 04:02.22 | Dagmar | If the power's not back on by then, it fires off some broadcast messages that amount to "ABANDON DISK! ABANDON DISK!" |
| 04:02.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah but with an i7 and an lcd im guessing 400w is the lowest ill be at |
| 04:02.51 | Dagmar | Heh no |
| 04:03.04 | Iriel | The XS has a power draw meter and estimated draw time |
| 04:03.12 | Dagmar | A panel uses a lot less power than you'd expect |
| 04:03.23 | Arrowmaster | mine is around 90w i think |
| 04:03.25 | Iriel | I'm at 360W with the mac pro, some drives and monitors |
| 04:03.30 | Iriel | though it |
| 04:03.33 | Iriel | isn't under load |
| 04:03.34 | Dagmar | Sitting around idling it'll probably be less than 2/3 of that |
| 04:03.55 | Dagmar | I'm hesitant to say "half" just because I don't know the i7's that well |
| 04:04.02 | nebula169 | with my 24" and old E8400 i'm sitting around 300 |
| 04:04.11 | Iriel | Dagmar: at idle they seem to use a LOT less |
| 04:04.20 | Dagmar | Yay my power bills |
| 04:04.21 | Arrowmaster | well ive got 9 harddrives though |
| 04:04.26 | Iriel | Dagmar: Judging by the (much less precise) guide on my other UPS |
| 04:04.38 | Iriel | Plug in a Kill-A-Watt and measure it ? |
| 04:04.39 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: They'll pull ~25 apiece at spin up time |
| 04:04.55 | Iriel | But again, you get a UPS to do a graceful shutdown without taking out your machine |
| 04:04.56 | Dagmar | ...after that it's much lower. |
| 04:05.01 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: yeah i really need to get one of those, but i guess if i get the ups i wont need one |
| 04:05.02 | Iriel | not to defy the lack of power for an extended time |
| 04:05.24 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: 1. they're cheap. We're talking <$30. |
| 04:05.30 | Dagmar | 2. They're very resellable. |
| 04:05.35 | Dagmar | 3. Also, highly educational. |
| 04:05.38 | Arrowmaster | yeah ive got the extended time thing covered, remember after Ike i was in here chatting all week without any power |
| 04:05.45 | Iriel | They're super cheap, I have 3 (one "original" one, and 2 that also work as timers) |
| 04:06.00 | Dagmar | You can easily spend $30 and work out how to save $30 in the next year on your power bill |
| 04:06.45 | Dagmar | Now, if you really want to see the far side of this.... Just plug a laser printer into just about any UPS. |
| 04:07.02 | Dagmar | Something with a nice big fuser like an old HP 5 |
| 04:07.17 | Dagmar | The UPS might even have time to spell out "FUCK YOU" on it's little screen |
| 04:07.39 | Dagmar | I actually went on a service call about that |
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| 04:08.11 | Dagmar | They wanted to know why their UPSes were dying so quickly |
| 04:08.44 | Dagmar | Everyone with their own personal laserjets... and they ignored the UPSes occasionally daring to complain when they printed something |
| 04:08.56 | nebula169 | lol, you're really not suppose to put printers on them, lasers can fuck up the batteries |
| 04:09.03 | Dagmar | Exactly. |
| 04:09.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: I would too if I was him |
| 04:09.24 | Dagmar | Hell, let's just plug in a hair dryer while we're at it |
| 04:09.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: that's his job and that's his friend, don't have a whole heck of a lot of options |
| 04:13.08 | ScytheBlade1 | "transaction lost in a deadlock" that's just frightening |
| 04:14.14 | Dagmar | One last thing about that UPS... Two of those in the same outlet would probably risk popping a breaker |
| 04:14.44 | Dagmar | Certainly it would be Very Bad for the breaker over time even if it didn't pop |
| 04:15.15 | Dagmar | At load that 1500 would be pulling a bit over 7W all by itself. |
| 04:15.31 | Dagmar | Being that most house circuits are 20A spread across multiple outlets... yay |
| 04:15.51 | Arrowmaster | i think these are 15A |
| 04:16.07 | Dagmar | Apartment? |
| 04:16.13 | Arrowmaster | old house |
| 04:16.15 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 04:16.21 | Arrowmaster | i dont even have grounded outlets |
| 04:16.31 | Arrowmaster | which yes i know is bad |
| 04:16.35 | Dagmar | I've seen an apartment with 10A breakers before, but it was converted from an Extended Stay hotelerie |
| 04:20.25 | kd3|phone | Well, looks like I got lucky on the power front. Now if only dsl would come back up... |
| 04:21.16 | Torhal | Dagmar: Uberfail - our sysadmin, with two UPS boxes each with eight plugins (I believe) had a single UPS with all six servers plugged into it, and a second with only a router plugged into it. |
| 04:21.47 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 04:21.47 | Torhal | When we lost power last Friday, and he was out of town, we scrambled to properly shut things down before the UPS died. |
| 04:22.02 | Dagmar | Hell I'm suprised the wiring in the walls survived that |
| 04:22.21 | kd3|phone | ^ |
| 04:22.58 | Dagmar | You realize that breakers degrade _quickly_ if you run them at over a particularly obvious value of sin() for an extended period of time, right? |
| 04:23.12 | Torhal | One of the other programmers, after we properly shut things down, re-distributed the plugs. |
| 04:23.21 | mckenziemc | what would happen if you plugged a UPS into a 2nd UPS, then plugged the 2nd into the first, then turned both on D: |
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| 04:24.06 | Torhal | Dagmar: I hadn't thought of that. Then again, it isn't my fucking JOB to do so. Hence, the Uber-fail. |
| 04:24.46 | Dagmar | Well, just remember if you run them over 70% of what they're rated for, they'll die in about two years flat |
| 04:25.14 | Dagmar | So... Consider 20A to really mean 14A if you don't like having to call electricians |
| 04:25.54 | Iriel | Dagmar: is 5 years still about "normal" for well-treated UPS batteries? I dont deal with any of those at work (which are also room-sized), and have only had one "at home" replacement round thus far |
| 04:26.05 | Dagmar | Iriel: Mine seem to last about htat long |
| 04:26.17 | Dagmar | I usually wind up buying a new one every 3 years or so |
| 04:26.38 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: very much related, while the power was out bunch of neighbors were talking, one works for one of the power companies (generating company i think not distribution) and he said they get asked how long transforms will last running at 115% |
| 04:26.39 | Dagmar | I have been neglectful lately and I'm looking at buying about five new batteries now |
| 04:26.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Right now my UPS is just hooked up to my networking stuff. Should keep it running for at least an hour, considering it is rated at 800W and it is pulling nothing near that |
| 04:27.02 | ScytheBlade1 | But none of my computers are on one :( |
| 04:27.03 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: LOL "Long enough to call the fire department" is the proper answer |
| 04:27.56 | kd3|phone | Crack-BOOM! |
| 04:27.56 | Dagmar | Possibly "Long enough for you to get to a safe shelter" as an alternative answer |
| 04:27.57 | Arrowmaster | no they are seriously running many transformers at over 100% here, the infrastructure is from the 70s |
| 04:28.17 | Dagmar | Wow you're just one ice storm away from cascading critical failures |
| 04:28.35 | Arrowmaster | one? |
| 04:28.43 | Arrowmaster | that happened last winter |
| 04:28.44 | Dagmar | It generally only takes one. |
| 04:28.52 | Arrowmaster | also happened during Ike |
| 04:28.53 | Dagmar | Then you replace everything with all new transformers. |
| 04:29.09 | Arrowmaster | nothing gets replaced unless its broken |
| 04:29.09 | Dagmar | Middle TN did that back in the mid 90's |
| 04:29.41 | Dagmar | Oh trust me, when you spend a night listening to the sound of tree branches cracking interspersed with distant BOOMs and flashes of light in the sky, those are being replaced. |
| 04:30.00 | Arrowmaster | not here |
| 04:30.32 | Dagmar | Probably only the sheer volume of lines being torn down kept the explosions below the level where people might think we were being invaded |
| 04:31.03 | Arrowmaster | its to the point that that neighbor has one of the poles to flip the transformer breakers back on after storms |
| 04:31.12 | kd3|phone | Wasn't there a box of some Texas town losing a bunch of transformers in a short spam on YouTube lately? |
| 04:31.23 | Dagmar | Probably |
| 04:31.38 | kd3|phone | span* |
| 04:31.52 | Dagmar | TVA was pretty good about building out heavily, but substations don't get "reset" usually. That stuff tends to just crater |
| 04:33.52 | kd3|phone | Geez, love but hate autocorrect at the same time... s/box/vid/ |
| 04:35.21 | Kraps | http://www.dorkly.com/article/17672/xbox-360-is-a-liar |
| 04:36.37 | Dagmar | I like the prank one |
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| 04:53.18 | Kraps | http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/15/report-kinect-for-windows-sdk-beta-launching-tomorrow/ |
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| 05:15.41 | Cide | HI SHIRIK |
| 05:15.53 | Cide | Shirik: are you at the tcg tournament? |
| 05:20.41 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 05:20.43 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 05:20.46 | Fisker | not so hey Dagmar |
| 05:25.58 | Cide | not hey so Fisker |
| 05:26.23 | mckenziemc | hey so Cide not |
| 05:26.59 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 05:27.02 | Fisker | dances |
| 05:28.06 | Fisker | YUS |
| 05:28.12 | Fisker | eee pad just got owned airtonix |
| 05:28.14 | Fisker | OWNED |
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| 05:29.26 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 05:29.28 | Fisker | i r happy |
| 05:29.34 | bluspacecow | ;) |
| 05:29.39 | Fisker | :) |
| 05:30.15 | Fisker | looks like someone is firing their lasers at eachother btw |
| 05:35.21 | Fisker | LOL Apple |
| 05:35.28 | Fisker | hunting people for hyping your device ;_; |
| 05:37.20 | Trela | Fisker: What? |
| 05:37.48 | Fisker | 3 foxconn workers got like 18 months of prison for leaking ipad2 details |
| 05:37.49 | Kraps | hey Fisker http://i.imgur.com/3GXjo.jpg |
| 05:38.18 | Kraps | Fisker: oh so their going back to work then |
| 05:38.22 | Kraps | BAM |
| 05:38.46 | Fisker | bam |
| 05:39.21 | Fisker | anyway the eee pad got owned |
| 05:40.23 | Kraps | :O <---- actual reaction http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bINUfbLV_0M&feature=player_embedded |
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| 05:48.20 | Kraps | http://about.me/minecraftarchitect |
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| 05:50.00 | Shirik | VEGAS |
| 05:50.04 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 05:50.05 | Cide | Shirik: are you at the tcg tournament? |
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| 05:50.12 | Shirik | well not at this instant |
| 05:50.23 | Cide | say hi to ts for me~ |
| 05:50.25 | Shirik | I am in the hotel |
| 05:50.29 | Shirik | what he's going to be there?! |
| 05:50.33 | Cide | yes |
| 05:50.33 | Afflicto | Hey all, I'm looking for someone to write a small addon for me, very simple options menu for Dreamvoid UI which lets you select a color scheme. Each color scheme does a /slash command (/reflux switch dreamvoidui_colorscheme). Can someone do that? - Thanks! |
| 05:50.37 | Shirik | I'm judging |
| 05:50.42 | Cide | nice |
| 05:51.00 | Shirik | tell him to find me even though he has no idea what I look like |
| 05:51.14 | Cide | you should find him |
| 05:51.17 | Cide | he looks like gordon freeman |
| 05:51.26 | Shirik | I'll be wearing a gray cryptozoic shirt like the other 50 judges :P |
| 05:51.34 | Shirik | I'm easier to find |
| 05:51.44 | Cide | hey now |
| 05:51.50 | Cide | 1/50 is worse than 1/1 gordon freeman |
| 05:52.05 | Shirik | I have to be there at 8 tomorrow now :( |
| 05:52.07 | bluspacecow | so he''l be the mute one ? |
| 05:52.52 | Cide | probably |
| 05:54.29 | Shirik | so is he going to play? |
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| 05:55.22 | Cide | yeah |
| 05:55.44 | Shirik | cool |
| 05:55.48 | Shirik | what's his name |
| 05:55.54 | Shirik | I know the head scorekeeper very well |
| 05:55.58 | Shirik | I'll make sure he's DQed |
| 05:56.25 | Cide | tucker smedes |
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| 05:58.11 | Cide | we're actually making a website to sell tcg cards |
| 05:58.17 | Cide | you should avertise it all over the place~ |
| 05:58.20 | Cide | advertise it too |
| 05:58.27 | Cide | JUDGE APPROVED. |
| 05:59.46 | Shirik | I don't think I'm actually allowed to DQ anyone it has to go to the head judge |
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| 06:06.18 | bluspacecow | BRB |
| 06:06.19 | Shirik|Ghost | sorry Cide my internet owned me |
| 06:06.21 | Shirik|Ghost | but |
| 06:06.27 | Shirik|Ghost | (22:55:23) (@Shirik) cool |
| 06:06.28 | Shirik|Ghost | (22:55:27) (@Shirik) what's his name |
| 06:06.28 | Shirik|Ghost | (22:55:33) (@Shirik) I know the head scorekeeper very well |
| 06:06.28 | Shirik|Ghost | (22:55:37) (@Shirik) I'll make sure he's DQed |
| 06:06.28 | Shirik|Ghost | (22:56:03) (@Shirik) I don't think I'm actually allowed to DQ anyone it has to go to the head judge |
| 06:06.45 | Iriel | Spam! Kill him! |
| 06:06.49 | Shirik | not spam! |
| 06:06.56 | Shirik | Transmission of messages that were ost |
| 06:06.58 | Shirik | lost too |
| 06:07.30 | nebula169 | they weren't lost /pat |
| 06:08.11 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:08.14 | Afflicto | epic: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17750-nibPointDisplay.html |
| 06:08.16 | Shirik | well any responses were never sent to me |
| 06:08.52 | Iriel | Shirik: eye rolls dont transmit over IRC 8-) |
| 06:08.54 | Cide | Shirik: Tucker Smedes |
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| 06:09.51 | Afflicto | Does anyone know how to get horizontally aligned pitbull party frames working? |
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| 06:16.42 | Shirik | I like how Cide is like "sure no problem DQ him" |
| 06:18.50 | Cide | INDEED |
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| 06:28.36 | Thunder_Child | which TCG game? |
| 06:32.33 | Cide | wow tcg |
| 06:34.51 | zenzio | "The research team developed the data-driven predictive method by analyzing the behavior of 14,000 players in the massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) World of Warcraft." -- "Specifically, the researchers collected data on 14,000 players and the order in which they earned their achievement badges. The researchers then identified the degree to which each individual achievement was correlated to every other achievement." |
| 06:35.03 | zenzio | http://news.ncsu.edu/releases/wmsrobertspredict/ -- not sure I necessarily believe that's the best approach |
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| 07:03.04 | bluspacecow | @Fisker :( |
| 07:03.05 | bluspacecow | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl37P7S9mxY |
| 07:10.14 | mckenziemc | @bluspacecow |
| 07:10.23 | bluspacecow | yessum ? |
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| 07:13.51 | mckenziemc | has the suspense killed you yet bluspacecow |
| 07:14.07 | bluspacecow | brb |
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| 07:25.13 | Arrowmaster | Parnic: im really really hating the alice devs right now, fuckers put a fight with 1 menancing ruin + 2 eyepots and as soon as you kill them 1 menancing ruin + 5 eyepots spawn |
| 07:25.52 | Arrowmaster | these motherfuckers are just evil |
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| 07:37.50 | Wobin | I like the Mekkatorque story |
| 07:39.28 | Afflicto | Is there any addon to change font of Names in the game-world? names above characters that is. Would be nice. |
| 07:44.43 | zenzio | "Programming is like a box of chocolates. Sometimes you find what you're looking for right away, but most of the time it takes a lot of trial and error. Sometimes you get coconut." |
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| 08:09.55 | mitch0 | anyone got a link handy for the 4.2 api changes? |
| 08:13.19 | bluspacecow | not I .... i just have copies of the frame xml extracts |
| 08:13.31 | bluspacecow | i think kd3 emails those api changes out |
| 08:14.36 | bluspacecow | ~framexml |
| 08:14.37 | purl | it has been said that framexml is Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
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| 08:14.49 | bluspacecow | try those browsers maybe ? |
| 08:22.07 | mitch0 | meh, I'll just wait for the patch and fix the breakage ;) |
| 08:23.26 | bluspacecow | :) |
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| 08:39.42 | Arrowmaster | this is strange, shouldnt this not happen because lua uses doubles? http://stackoverflow.com/q/6366954/227513 |
| 08:41.25 | zenzio | doubles still suffer from floating point inaccuracy; but whether that applies to the values 0.4, 0.2 or 5.6 I don't know |
| 08:42.32 | Arrowmaster | lua> 14 * 0.4 |
| 08:42.33 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 5.6 |
| 08:42.52 | Arrowmaster | lua> 14 * 0.4 == 5.6 |
| 08:42.53 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
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| 08:54.40 | karl_w_w | lua fails at maths? |
| 08:54.46 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:54.57 | jnwhiteh | IEEE 754 can't precisely represent certain nubers |
| 08:55.10 | jnwhiteh | python has the exact same issue, as would any language using IEEE 754 |
| 08:55.18 | jnwhiteh | 0.2 can't be represented exactly |
| 08:55.46 | zenzio | karl_w_w: in these cases, this tends to be an automatic link: http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E19957-01/806-3568/ncg_goldberg.html |
| 08:56.00 | jnwhiteh | indeed =) |
| 08:57.49 | karl_w_w | ultimately, the answer was yes :P |
| 08:57.55 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:57.57 | karl_w_w | because computers fail at maths |
| 08:58.00 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:58.05 | jnwhiteh | that's just not correct =) |
| 08:58.15 | jnwhiteh | Lua doesn't fail at math, as you can see its returning the right answers |
| 08:58.26 | zenzio | you can implement accurate floating point values, but it's much more heavy |
| 08:58.29 | jnwhiteh | if anything it fails as equality of floating point numbers, which is different |
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| 08:58.53 | jnwhiteh | indeed, a non IEEE 754 implementation (take the Haskell/Go Rat type) works just fine |
| 09:04.41 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: you didn't have to do that =) |
| 09:04.52 | jnwhiteh | (not that i'm sure why you did) |
| 09:05.09 | jnwhiteh | but thank you! |
| 09:06.26 | karl_w_w | shrugs |
| 09:06.36 | jnwhiteh | I lourve nudie pixx! |
| 09:07.54 | karl_w_w | no showing everyone |
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| 09:33.20 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GchgAvD1fxA |
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| 10:13.33 | zenzio | hm, interesting... one day HTC posts "Gingerbread won't be coming to the Desire", the next day post "it's coming anyway" |
| 10:13.45 | zenzio | wonder what they discovered overnight that changed |
| 10:13.51 | zenzio | + their minds |
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| 10:22.30 | airtonix | becuase their programmers realised they don't need to use vb.net anymore |
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| 10:29.09 | zenzio | airtonix: I should hope they never used that :-p |
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| 10:32.31 | airtonix | lol "the modding api is the entire minecraft source code" |
| 10:32.45 | Cide | aw shit |
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| 10:33.32 | airtonix | that likes saying "url_confs? lawl we'll just use mod_rewrite and catch the public methods" |
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| 10:48.07 | ReiserFS | I didnt Jill my Eide |
| 10:48.32 | ReiserFS | Kill My wife |
| 10:48.44 | airtonix | wut |
| 10:48.59 | airtonix | i jilled my eide |
| 10:49.29 | airtonix | Fisker: ujelli? |
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| 10:51.32 | ReiserFS | Hey airtonix |
| 10:51.32 | ReiserFS | I didnt kill My Eide |
| 10:51.32 | ReiserFS | Eide |
| 10:51.32 | ReiserFS | Wife |
| 10:52.58 | ReiserFS | Btw almost lost my backup when i flashed my radio |
| 10:53.09 | airtonix | hey Fisker i made a minecraft tutorial |
| 10:53.21 | ReiserFS | Ok |
| 10:53.33 | airtonix | i paid a 12 year old to do the voice over and told him to read a sentence about how to press the w button |
| 10:53.44 | ReiserFS | Oh ok |
| 10:53.47 | airtonix | "this is how you move forward in minecraft" |
| 10:53.59 | airtonix | awesome tutorial right? |
| 10:54.09 | ReiserFS | Yes |
| 10:54.23 | ReiserFS | Anywah Immanuel ragequit |
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| 11:11.30 | airtonix | http://imgur.com/gallery/Dylnh |
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| 12:00.26 | Adys | Not content with suing Oracle over the hire of its former CEO, Mark Hurd, HP is now suing Oracle over the database company's announcement that it will discontinue support for Itanium. |
| 12:00.27 | Adys | pathetic |
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| 12:07.07 | Kalroth | yeah, fucking asshole Oracle always doing dumb shit |
| 12:11.08 | airtonix | http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/-minecraft-ghibli-world-/ |
| 12:12.59 | mitch0 | airtonix: is that all built manually? |
| 12:13.24 | airtonix | think so |
| 12:14.01 | mitch0 | scary |
| 12:14.35 | airtonix | i love all those movies |
| 12:18.29 | airtonix | actually some of the areas look like the ground was excised with spherical shaped scissors |
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| 12:37.18 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://kuvaton.com/browse/18348/yoga_pussycat.gif |
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| 12:39.31 | zenzio | ohaithere peppy! |
| 12:40.57 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi, zenzio! |
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| 13:14.13 | Cide | haste: way to let me down |
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| 13:19.14 | Cide | I hate you haste |
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| 13:20.16 | Cide | haste haste haste haste haste haste haste make haste haste |
| 13:25.48 | Adys | damn it |
| 13:25.53 | Adys | Shirik you use qt right? |
| 13:26.35 | Adys | i want a qtextedit to call a slot on enter pressed, and insert a newline on shift-enter |
| 13:27.15 | mitch0 | don't you have an onKeyDown type handler? |
| 13:27.34 | mitch0 | from there you could do the trick |
| 13:28.32 | Adys | i was trying to find one |
| 13:28.41 | Adys | i clearly even remember an enterPressed signal |
| 13:28.44 | Adys | but i cant find any |
| 13:29.00 | Adys | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qtextedit.html |
| 13:29.26 | Kalroth | Shirik is a qt |
| 13:30.06 | Adys | void QTextEdit::textChanged () [signal] |
| 13:30.10 | Adys | thats the closest i get to it |
| 13:30.17 | Adys | but thats *after* the text is changed, not before |
| 13:30.18 | mitch0 | that's too late |
| 13:30.24 | Adys | yeah |
| 13:31.29 | zenzio | seems to be many suggestions for keyPressEvent |
| 13:31.36 | mitch0 | adys: keyPressEvent (or keyReleaseEvent) |
| 13:31.55 | Adys | ah, didnt see that |
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| 13:35.36 | mitch0 | adys: IM client? :) |
| 13:35.46 | Adys | yup |
| 13:36.00 | Adys | https://github.com/adys/tercel |
| 13:36.27 | mitch0 | meh, why mix in python? :) |
| 13:36.43 | Adys | because pyside is awesome |
| 13:37.18 | Adys | this is 150 LOC and i can already send and receive messages |
| 13:37.39 | Cide | haste haste haste haste haste haste haste make haste haste |
| 13:37.43 | Adys | thats with a tabbed gui |
| 13:38.28 | mitch0 | yeah, but it's also tainted with python |
| 13:38.34 | mitch0 | :P |
| 13:39.07 | Adys | python is the future |
| 13:40.43 | Cide | honestly haste |
| 13:40.49 | Cide | don't leave a brother hanging |
| 13:41.19 | Kalroth | that's what she said |
| 13:41.32 | Cide | what |
| 13:41.38 | Cide | hey Adys |
| 13:41.46 | Adys | yes cide |
| 13:41.49 | Cide | do you know if blizzard permanently blocks hosts |
| 13:42.20 | Cide | my server cannot connect to any blizzard host and I'm too lazy to figure out if they banned me or if my server blocks it |
| 13:43.03 | Adys | strongly doubt its blizzard |
| 13:43.13 | Kalroth | if you mean the armory then its never a permanent block |
| 13:43.24 | Adys | i know they do block some hosts but thats shit like chinese servers |
| 13:43.26 | Kalroth | but it can block for hours/days if you piss it off |
| 13:43.41 | Cide | well I pulled a bunch of avatars |
| 13:43.44 | Cide | but that was months ago |
| 13:44.02 | Kalroth | hrmf |
| 13:44.14 | Cide | and a bunch is probably overkill |
| 13:44.18 | Cide | maybe 1000 requests total |
| 13:44.29 | Cide | over the course of weeks |
| 13:44.30 | Kalroth | that shouldn't do it at all |
| 13:45.03 | Kalroth | I ran a multithreaded scanner for a few days and I suddenly started getting 403's |
| 13:45.35 | Cide | PING us.battle.net (12.129.242.40) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 13:45.35 | Cide | --- us.battle.net ping statistics --- |
| 13:45.35 | Cide | 41 packets transmitted, 0 received |
| 13:45.53 | Cide | PING google.com (74.125.226.19) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 13:45.53 | Cide | 64 bytes from 74.125.226.19: icmp_seq=1 ttl=58 time=11.4 ms |
| 13:46.01 | Kalroth | sure, thats normal |
| 13:46.05 | Kalroth | they block all icmp packets |
| 13:46.24 | Cide | can't wget us.battle.net either |
| 13:46.34 | Kalroth | try to telnet to port 80 and type GET \ |
| 13:46.58 | Adys | love me some telnet in the morning |
| 13:47.17 | Kalroth | opens a tunnel for Adys |
| 13:47.22 | Cide | timing out |
| 13:47.30 | Adys | fingers Kalroth |
| 13:47.33 | Cide | telnet 12.129.242.40 |
| 13:47.34 | Cide | Trying 12.129.242.40... |
| 13:47.38 | Adys | finger: Kalroth: no such user. |
| 13:47.38 | Kalroth | I guess they dont like you then, that works for me |
| 13:47.38 | Adys | :( |
| 13:47.42 | Kalroth | tried a traceroute? |
| 13:48.32 | Cide | sec |
| 13:49.06 | Kalroth | I end up at mdf001c7613r0003-gig-10-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.193.242] before it starts to timeout |
| 13:49.08 | Cide | http://fpaste.org/6GuC/ |
| 13:49.19 | Cide | same it seems |
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| 13:51.29 | Jamash | nc us.battle.net 80 |
| 13:51.32 | Jamash | GET / |
| 13:52.25 | Cide | nc -w 10 us.battle.net 80 |
| 13:52.27 | Cide | timed out |
| 13:52.31 | Adys | wow jira |
| 13:52.37 | Adys | "The username must be all lowercase" |
| 13:52.37 | Jamash | worked for me |
| 13:52.41 | Adys | THEN LOWERCASE IT |
| 13:52.41 | Adys | ffs |
| 13:52.51 | Adys | are java devs inherently bad designers? |
| 13:53.19 | mitch0 | no |
| 13:53.26 | Jamash | yes |
| 13:53.45 | Cide | maybe ip tables is configured horribly |
| 13:57.27 | Cide | jesus haste wake the fuck up |
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| 14:01.37 | Adys | mitch0: http://dpaste.com/555063/ http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qtextedit.html#plainText-prop is that normal? |
| 14:05.15 | Jamash | try toPlainText() method |
| 14:05.47 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocUDELuHtLQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:05.52 | Wobin | this man has craaaazy steady hands |
| 14:06.41 | Cide | HASTE HATE HASTE |
| 14:07.10 | Jamash | I think red mage tried that once |
| 14:10.23 | Shirik | Cide |
| 14:10.26 | Shirik | I finally got my bags |
| 14:10.30 | Shirik | which have my uniform in them |
| 14:10.34 | Cide | excellent |
| 14:10.38 | Shirik | in 50 minutes I need to be downstairs at the convention center |
| 14:10.40 | Cide | did you talk to your friend about accomodation too |
| 14:10.44 | Shirik | that's cutting it a littlee close |
| 14:10.49 | Shirik | actually yes |
| 14:10.59 | Shirik | but I don't think you'll like the result >.> |
| 14:11.30 | Cide | you're staying with him? |
| 14:12.39 | Shirik | yeah :( |
| 14:12.42 | Shirik | please don't kill me! |
| 14:13.04 | Wobin | Shirik: uniform? |
| 14:13.29 | Shirik | I say that loosely, but yes |
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| 14:15.36 | mitch0 | adys: it's probably caused by plainText not having the "standard" plainText() and setPlainText() accessors (instead there's toPlainText() for some reason) |
| 14:15.44 | Adys | yeah |
| 14:15.48 | Adys | toPlainText works |
| 14:15.52 | Adys | weird |
| 14:15.54 | mitch0 | yeah |
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| 14:28.11 | *** topic/#wowuidev by jnwhiteh -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.1.x ToC: 40100 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Happy Birthday tekkub! |
| 14:28.30 | Wobin | tekkloud: http://rain.nxe7.com/ |
| 14:28.34 | Wobin | haha, that's awesome |
| 14:32.20 | Adys | fucks sake |
| 14:32.27 | Adys | Cide: help. |
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| 14:42.33 | Adys | ugh |
| 14:42.44 | Adys | mitch0: more weirdness... |
| 14:42.53 | Adys | this widget is reparenting itself |
| 14:43.04 | Adys | instead of mainWindow, the parent becomes the central widget |
| 14:43.14 | Fisker | hey you Wobin |
| 14:43.48 | Adys | hm |
| 14:43.53 | Adys | apparently thats what addWidget does |
| 14:43.55 | Adys | i suck |
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| 14:55.55 | Lopeppeppy | You know, it only JUST hit me that dumping a few shelves of books onto my head this morning might account for my aching back and headache. |
| 14:59.02 | pompy | my God .. http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/81327464156119040 |
| 14:59.26 | TMc51 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11320296/email-list.txt |
| 14:59.30 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy: That's some slow falling books |
| 14:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 14:59.49 | Lopeppeppy | The pewter fox dropped much faster, and has pointy bits. |
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| 15:01.44 | Kraps_w | sweet, THIS doesnt make firefox lock up http://skeptoid.com/podcast.xml |
| 15:06.42 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: maybe it was the falling books' fault that it took you so long to realise |
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| 15:16.46 | Lopeppeppy | Concussion! Can I go home now! |
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| 15:35.50 | Wobin | I wonder if anyone is doing any sort of comparison on passwords chosen with the recent lulzsec release |
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| 15:39.24 | bluspacecow | just did why |
| 15:39.36 | bluspacecow | checked my logins and passwords i use |
| 15:40.15 | bluspacecow | http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/photos-of-vancouver-rioting/article2062983/?from=2063169 |
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| 15:41.28 | Lopeppeppy | Riots if you win, riots if you lose. |
| 15:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | I think it's time to abolish organized national sports. |
| 15:41.42 | Wobin | and once again, taiwan portrays the news as it should be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udcnlLXUh8E |
| 15:42.40 | Dagmar | It's time they started selling Paxil Cola at those events |
| 15:43.02 | Dagmar | ...maybe just aerosolize it and flood the arean |
| 15:43.06 | Dagmar | er arena |
| 15:43.58 | Dagmar | Wobin: Awesome |
| 15:45.45 | Wobin | best picture from the riots, full stop: http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/29808/slide_29808_293133_huge.jpg |
| 15:47.14 | bluspacecow | you can see up her .... |
| 15:47.16 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 15:47.33 | bluspacecow | great minds think alike Wobin ...I just linked that XD |
| 15:50.07 | Wobin | bluspacecow: haha =) |
| 15:54.38 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:54.40 | Fisker | hello bluspacecow |
| 15:54.42 | Fisker | u jelly? |
| 15:55.42 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 15:55.46 | bluspacecow | why i might be jelly ? |
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| 15:56.20 | Kraps_w | haha, "[cows] spend much less time smoking than humans, as their hooves lack the manual dexterity needed to operate a cigarette lighter" |
| 15:56.23 | Lopeppeppy | For a lunchtime PB&J sandwich? |
| 15:56.32 | Lopeppeppy | "Cows with guns" |
| 15:56.35 | Kraps_w | this guys deadpan is great |
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| 15:58.01 | bluspacecow | *fumbles with lighter* |
| 15:58.05 | bluspacecow | *drops it* |
| 15:58.06 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 15:58.17 | Kraps_w | ^ proof |
| 15:58.21 | bluspacecow | MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (soulful sad moo) |
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| 16:14.17 | Dagmar | Oh dear. Lulzsec now know of that animation Wobin linked basically singing their praises |
| 16:14.27 | Dagmar | Now the luls will never stop. |
| 16:14.30 | Dagmar | *chuckle* |
| 16:18.23 | Adys | Dagmar: which? |
| 16:19.12 | Dagmar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udcnlLXUh8E |
| 16:21.17 | Lopeppeppy | I despise moderating spam bots. |
| 16:31.22 | zenzelezz | "The upcoming Mass Effect 3 is to see the female incarnation of Commander Shepard play a more prominent role in marketing, thanks to persistent pestering from fans." |
| 16:32.15 | zenzelezz | "FemShep's popularity can be largely attributed to Jennifer Hale's excellent voice acting for the character."... right, it's not that it's more fun to look at a girl than a guy or anything (though the voice was nice) |
| 16:34.14 | durcyn | femshep is canon |
| 16:34.39 | foxlit | zenzelezz: clearly everyone plays through the first 15 minutes twice to compare the voice acting, then decides what to do |
| 16:34.55 | bluspacecow | what does Fem!Shep look like anyway ? |
| 16:35.20 | durcyn | the default is a redhead with a fugly scar, i usually just get rid of the scar |
| 16:35.23 | zenzelezz | http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/220454/femshep-mass-effect-3-salutes-you/ was one option in ME2 |
| 16:35.28 | Kalroth | if im going to play something for hours, then i'd rather look at boobies and woman butts than man butts |
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| 16:40.21 | Kraps_w | an argument i agree with is that most of ME is bombastic and "epic" and the male!shep just has better delivery in that way |
| 16:40.58 | durcyn | i've never actually done a playthrough of 1 or 2 with a male character |
| 16:41.12 | zenzelezz | same |
| 16:41.36 | zenzelezz | I can see the point, but I have great dislike for supposedly macho lead characters |
| 16:45.18 | durcyn | plus you can still bone liara as femshep, so all is well |
| 16:46.21 | Kraps_w | heh |
| 16:53.58 | Kraps_w | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2011/june/ss1408.jpg |
| 16:55.03 | bluspacecow | moonkin = angry bird |
| 16:55.11 | Kraps_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2674638510?page=1#19 |
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| 17:04.05 | Lunessa | staion |
| 17:04.11 | Lunessa | er, station |
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| 17:05.25 | Thunder_Child | one of those mornings Lunessa? |
| 17:06.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi there. |
| 17:06.15 | Cairenn|afk | wagon |
| 17:06.30 | Lunessa | Some dweezle banged on my apartment door at 2am to beg for automotive assistance (dead battery in his car) - so I was awake from the adrenaline until 4:30, then up at 7 for a class this morning. I'm... knackered. |
| 17:06.38 | Lunessa | And I still have 7 hours to go. |
| 17:09.30 | Lopeppeppy | Don't forget to duct tape your eyes open, so you can sleep and still look alert. |
| 17:11.59 | Thunder_Child | maybe he can borrow some of cog's energy drinks |
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| 17:13.13 | Kraps_w | BRING IT |
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| 17:24.05 | Kraps_w | hey we dont have to worry about nuclear winter, nukes are much smaller than they used to |
| 17:24.08 | Kraps_w | be |
| 17:25.08 | Arrowmaster | not that much smaller |
| 17:25.19 | Arrowmaster | and the ICBMs are all MIRV style |
| 17:25.57 | Lopeppeppy | Buy a parka, don't worry about nuclear winter. |
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| 17:28.49 | Lunessa | https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6#diff-1 |
| 17:29.44 | Arrowmaster | is is why you delete the files and then rmdir |
| 17:34.12 | foxlit | "For a collosus stalker phoenix voidray ht archon army. [...] If I was terran, I'd go marine viking marauder ghost. Maybe tanks" |
| 17:34.18 | foxlit | SC2 forums are amusing |
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| 17:34.58 | Lopeppeppy | I want to sing that to gilbert and sullivan. |
| 17:35.51 | Lopeppeppy | I am the very model of a modern major general / Colossus stalker phoenix void-ray ht archon army tank. |
| 17:40.43 | foxlit | I think that's a little too many syllables |
| 17:42.55 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, it needs work at the end of the line, but... |
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| 17:43.15 | Lopeppeppy | Colossus stalker phoenix void-ray archon army general! |
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| 18:17.21 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:17.26 | Fisker | i'm listening to music |
| 18:17.58 | Lopeppeppy | Trouts are very musical, especially the rainbow ones. |
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| 18:23.44 | Adys | http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromium.git;a=commit;h=822e054eba878b5ce9a554d5248aa66078f6087b |
| 18:23.46 | Adys | thank god |
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| 18:36.39 | foxlit | Adys: "404 - Unknown commit object"? |
| 18:37.02 | Adys | ugh i was just filing a bug about those 404 |
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| 18:37.27 | Adys | foxlit: http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromium.git;a=summary |
| 18:37.28 | Adys | Update BuiltinProvider to provide chrome:// URLs. |
| 18:37.43 | foxlit | http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromium.git;a=commit;h=0054914ec58345fcbcaebc915b2ac827c47fd38f |
| 18:37.54 | Adys | yeah thats the 404 for me |
| 18:38.15 | foxlit | Odd; your link is a 404 and mine works for me. |
| 18:38.29 | Adys | i believe its their git-svn install's fault |
| 18:38.33 | Adys | coupled with a load balancer |
| 18:38.47 | Adys | that links to two (or more) different repositories for different users |
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| 19:14.40 | Fisker | farts on airtonix |
| 19:14.44 | Fisker | how does that make you feel? |
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| 19:33.32 | kd3|netbook | yay! connectivity |
| 19:33.53 | Lopeppeppy | Woots! |
| 19:33.58 | kd3|netbook | has a trouble ticket open at home... landline works, just not dsl |
| 19:34.01 | kd3|netbook | blah |
| 19:41.49 | industrial | Thank you OkCupid for bringing the honeys :O |
| 19:41.56 | industrial | hates clubs |
| 19:41.56 | TMc51 | lol |
| 19:43.28 | industrial | immigration in the hizzle, this one is thai :O |
| 19:43.38 | zenzelezz | "A patent application filed by Apple, and obtained by the Times, reveals how the software would work. If a person were to hold up their iPhone, the device would trigger the attention of infra-red sensors installed at the venue. These sensors would then instruct the iPhone to disable its camera." |
| 19:43.41 | industrial | and with that, I leave you, because I have better things to do =D |
| 19:44.03 | kd3|netbook | o_O |
| 19:45.23 | Lopeppeppy | OKCupid keeps trying to hook me up with people who live on the west coast...when I'm from the east... it's lame. |
| 19:46.38 | industrial | I just search by radius |
| 19:46.49 | industrial | wonder if they serve RSS for new people in the area :p |
| 19:48.02 | Lopeppeppy | I don't even search, I haven't actually visited the site in over a year. It just occasionally sends me lists. |
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| 20:09.00 | Lunessa | needs a nap. |
| 20:10.52 | mckenziemc | sedates Lunessa |
| 20:11.21 | Lunessa | crawls off somewhere safer to sleep. |
| 20:11.33 | mckenziemc | D: |
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| 20:13.22 | TC-Laptop | if anyone is interested http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-Original-Collection-Frontier/dp/B001TH16DI |
| 20:13.26 | TC-Laptop | it's a rather good deal |
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| 20:27.22 | Fisker | no TC-Laptop |
| 20:27.22 | Fisker | NO |
| 20:27.28 | Fisker | btw kd3|netbook |
| 20:27.34 | Fisker | anything new in 4.2 with calendar invites? |
| 20:28.35 | Shirik | o.o Error 107 (net::ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR): SSL protocol error. |
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| 20:31.12 | kd3|netbook | dunno. not having connectivity at home makes downloading stuff difficult |
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| 20:47.17 | zenzelezz | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/demotivational-posters-yep1.jpg |
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| 21:09.12 | Lunessa | Why I fear "the cloud" - "So I just logged in on this other computer with my login, so how do I copy my files from my normal computer to this flash drive?" - ACTUAL QUESTION. |
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| 21:11.29 | industrial | zenzelezz: classic :') |
| 21:12.01 | Lunessa | At least it was a "Humanities" professor. |
| 21:12.19 | industrial | Lunessa: appropriate reply: You buy a shotgun and then you shoot yourself through the fucken head! |
| 21:12.41 | industrial | or we'll release Fisker on you. |
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| 21:25.42 | kd3|netbook | wow; we really haven't added much to our swearing repertoire over the past 110 years |
| 21:26.20 | kd3|netbook | nsfw, a letter from 1898 issued to all MLB teams about the issue of swearing: http://www.lettersofnote.com/2011/06/special-instructions-to-players.html |
| 21:29.02 | Lunessa | I love Letters of Note |
| 21:32.43 | zenzelezz | kd3|netbook: there are only so many things considered inappropriate, and swearing tends to favour those things. I don't think swearing will evolve much more except for the use of people's/companies' names |
| 21:40.14 | karl_w_w | "well what you lack in smarts you certainly make up for in stupid." <- haha, best official forum post |
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| 21:54.25 | mascondante | So QH is being naughty again -_- |
| 21:55.07 | Lunessa | This joke confuses me - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2674988832 |
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| 22:22.45 | karl_w_w | my god facebook pokes are the most annoying and pointless things in all the interwebs |
| 22:24.08 | Cide | so the authenticator change is funny |
| 22:24.21 | Cide | mostly because people somehow believe that it makes authenticators vastly less secure |
| 22:25.21 | Cide | certainly somebody could hack you and get in without an auth code, but it's not like that wasn't equally difficult before |
| 22:26.10 | karl_w_w | what's the change? |
| 22:26.30 | Cide | if you log in from the same place all the time wow will after a while stop asking for auth codes |
| 22:26.40 | Cide | as long as you log in from the same location |
| 22:26.57 | Cide | if the pattern gets broken you need to input it again |
| 22:27.24 | nicoli_s | one of my coworkers all implemented an authenticator on WP7 thats pretty cool |
| 22:28.10 | Cide | in fact the easiest way to attack old authenticator-enabled accounts (MITM) is still just as viable, just as difficult and nothing has changed |
| 22:28.23 | karl_w_w | so if you always play wow from the same internet cafe, after a while you'll be relying on that computer not having a keylogger? |
| 22:28.27 | karl_w_w | sounds great |
| 22:28.43 | Cide | key loggers help with authenticators how? |
| 22:29.17 | karl_w_w | when it stops asking for the authenticator code cos u always log in from there, it'll help |
| 22:29.22 | Cide | I guess if your attacker manages to sit down at the same computer |
| 22:30.33 | Cide | and certainly the new solution is slightly less secure in some circumstances like the one you described |
| 22:30.44 | Cide | but they are extremely rare and easily solved by the ability to opt out |
| 22:31.04 | Cide | my comment was regarding the normal case, yet lots of people are overreacting thinking it's a huge decrease in security |
| 22:31.09 | |Jelly| | In that case, I'd be more concerned with a stalker than my wow account. |
| 22:32.00 | Cide | indeed |
| 22:37.01 | mckenziemc | how does the location checking work |
| 22:37.10 | mckenziemc | specifically, for someone whos ip changes periodically |
| 22:37.36 | Cide | either mac address or you don't get the benefit |
| 22:37.59 | Arrowmaster | i doubt they would use mac address |
| 22:38.32 | Arrowmaster | it will either be ip based or some other client side fingerprint |
| 22:42.05 | zenzelezz | did they say why they changed it? Were people complaining about having to enter the code each login? |
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| 23:13.08 | Jamash | hai guise |
| 23:13.46 | Adys | Arrowmaster: my guess would be clientside fingerprint |
| 23:13.56 | Adys | would be pointless to use ip |
| 23:14.14 | Jamash | yeah ip and mac are both easily spoofable |
| 23:14.35 | Adys | im not even sure how easily you can access mac from a program |
| 23:14.40 | Adys | doesnt it have to be admin or some shit? |
| 23:14.43 | Jamash | nah |
| 23:15.02 | Jamash | ipconfig /all |
| 23:15.04 | Arrowmaster | ip spoofing isnt easy |
| 23:15.39 | Jamash | true, I was thinking if you have a keylogger on your pc |
| 23:15.49 | Adys | hm |
| 23:16.09 | Arrowmaster | the only issue though is if its a client side fingerprint, it might be possible for a keylogger to get the fingerprint and the attacker could spoof it somehow |
| 23:16.09 | Adys | come to think of it its probably ip + clientside |
| 23:16.16 | Adys | yeah exactly |
| 23:16.19 | Arrowmaster | ip is the only secure way to do it |
| 23:16.20 | Jamash | is this change just for the game, or for the website as well? |
| 23:16.31 | Adys | ip isnt secure in any way |
| 23:16.38 | Adys | mitm attacks and all that |
| 23:16.49 | Adys | except easier. |
| 23:16.58 | Cide | doesn't really matter |
| 23:17.10 | Cide | mitm was a good attack vector before and remains identical |
| 23:17.15 | Arrowmaster | well unless the attacker is able to send bgp annoucements and take over your entire isp's netblock |
| 23:17.26 | Adys | Cide: yes but if it just checks for ip, it becomes easier |
| 23:17.36 | Adys | with a fingerprint AND an ip check at least you need more than that |
| 23:17.53 | Adys | mitm becomes motp |
| 23:17.58 | Adys | (thats man on the top.) |
| 23:18.11 | Arrowmaster | are you saying the attacker would proxy their own connection though the victims system? |
| 23:18.14 | Jamash | ok so here's my concern: you got a keylogger on your machine, somone uses the keylogger to pretend to log in to wow as you |
| 23:18.16 | Jamash | yes |
| 23:18.40 | Adys | er |
| 23:18.41 | Adys | no |
| 23:18.41 | Jamash | that is of course a much more sophisticated attack than a simple keylogger, but it's still a concern |
| 23:18.55 | Adys | but you could just go on any wireless network, wait for someone to log on wow |
| 23:19.00 | Adys | and tah-dah |
| 23:19.09 | Jamash | I suppose wow doesn't use ssl |
| 23:19.16 | Jamash | they really should |
| 23:19.26 | Jamash | or whatever equivalent for UDP there is |
| 23:19.54 | Adys | it is encrypted but its some weak custom shit |
| 23:20.00 | Adys | at least was last i checked |
| 23:20.00 | Jamash | meh |
| 23:20.11 | Adys | which was a while ago actually, 3.3 |
| 23:20.32 | Jamash | https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Datagram_Transport_Layer_Security <--- should use that |
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| 23:27.23 | mckenziemc1 | got disconnected right after asking my question : / |
| 23:27.27 | mckenziemc1 | or did it even get out |
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