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| 00:19.49 | A-KO | oh wow |
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| 00:19.55 | A-KO | they have a mod to add all sorts of animals to minecraft |
| 00:20.17 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh. Pets! |
| 00:20.35 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/user/machinima#p/c/6656FE6D5A4D6973/6/pbOW5ttEibU |
| 00:20.38 | A-KO | look, dolphins! sharks! |
| 00:20.43 | A-KO | bears! lions! |
| 00:20.46 | Meorawr | Planes > animals. |
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| 00:26.38 | Lopeppeppy | If you can't have foxes, it's not worth the effort. *sniff* |
| 00:27.58 | Lopeppeppy | Goodnight, every peoples. Enjoy the mining. :) |
| 00:28.05 | foxlit | A-KO: bears with lasers that breathe fire and spit acid in your face? |
| 00:29.43 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/U5Baq.jpg |
| 00:29.45 | Fisker | NO DADDY NO |
| 00:30.11 | foxlit | bears with lasers that explode, shoot lightning from their hands, and breathe acid in your face? |
| 00:31.02 | foxlit | there we go, both phrases are in the logs. wowinsider's misquote shall be corrected :P |
| 00:44.49 | Jamash | sharks with frikken laser beams attached to their heads? |
| 00:53.16 | Jamash | hmm, so I want to treat all ranks of a profession as the same ability but I don't want to store hardcoded list of equivalence classes |
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| 01:09.52 | Sinopsis | anyone know off the top of their heads the name of a button template for an item icon? |
| 01:13.32 | Jamash | O |
| 01:13.41 | Jamash | I'm going to take a wild guess and say ItemButtonTemplate |
| 01:15.46 | Sinopsis | thx...I would have eventually found it...but I'm still new to this and takes me a long time to find things cuz i dont know where to look yet |
| 01:16.41 | Cairenn | ~framexml |
| 01:16.41 | purl | framexml is, like, Blizzard's UI for WoW. Export code/art from the client by using the wow.exe -console commands "ExportInterfaceFiles code" and "ExportInterfaceFiles art" (must be used on login screen); or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 01:16.51 | Cairenn | !api |
| 01:17.51 | Sinopsis | thx purl, i have it..but its still hard for me to find stuff ...just inexperience at this point |
| 01:18.15 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
| 01:18.15 | purl | well, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 01:20.02 | Sinopsis | i've created a scrolling frame from the example at wowpedia, and in the update function it calls getglobal("framename"..line); what would I use for subelements of that "frame" |
| 01:24.54 | Sinopsis | actually, further searching says getGlobal is being removed...i see a Frame:GetChildren() method, but is there one to get a specific child by name? |
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| 01:25.21 | Iriel | _G[name] |
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| 01:26.13 | clever | Cairenn: what else can be done in wow.exe -console? |
| 01:26.36 | Cairenn | wrong person to ask |
| 01:26.46 | clever | who would be the right person? |
| 01:27.44 | Jamash | http://www.wowpedia.org/Console_variables |
| 01:28.15 | clever | ah, nice |
| 01:28.37 | Sinopsis | thx Iriel, i found the reference to that _G function, I just thought there might be one off of my frame object that would be more effecient instead, since I know its a child of my object |
| 01:28.46 | Jamash | _G isn't a function, it's the global table |
| 01:29.27 | Iriel | Lua's table lookup is about as efficient as it can get |
| 01:29.34 | Iriel | it's _very_ fast |
| 01:29.39 | Sinopsis | what prevents my addon from using a frame object that is the same as another addon and overwriting it then? |
| 01:29.43 | Iriel | Nothing |
| 01:29.53 | Sinopsis | ok, thx |
| 01:29.56 | Iriel | other than people would hate it and you'd get a reputation as a lousy developer 8-) |
| 01:30.40 | Sinopsis | well, I was just curious more from a knowledge standpoint, all my frames are prefixed with my addon name |
| 01:31.51 | Seerah | do all of your frames need to be named? ;) |
| 01:32.47 | karl_w_w | my kitchen table is called Steve |
| 01:33.37 | karl_w_w | that joke would've worked better if I could form sentences with a keyboard as I imagine them in my head |
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| 01:37.25 | Sinopsis | I meant the ones that needed names :) |
| 01:40.02 | Jamash | I use nested tables |
| 01:40.23 | Jamash | LearningAid.frame is my main frame, LearningAid.buttons[i] are the buttons in the frame, etc |
| 01:40.44 | Jamash | keeps the global namespace tidy |
| 01:40.46 | Sinopsis | I'm doing this in xml |
| 01:41.00 | Jamash | oh well then you should pour gasoline on your computer |
| 01:41.27 | Sinopsis | i told yall last night i didnt have a clue, someone in here told me to do it in xml haha |
| 01:41.32 | Jamash | I mean doing things in Lua is generally easier than doing them in XML |
| 01:41.57 | Jamash | although XML imposes a certain amount of order, which is good (as long as you have a validating XML editor) |
| 01:42.11 | Meorawr | I find XML to be the tidier way of sorting out frames, but it can be a pain at times. |
| 01:42.14 | Jamash | hand-editing XML is a sure-fire trip to the nuthatch |
| 01:42.31 | Sinopsis | luckily this UI is relatively simple , now i just need to find out how to change the text of a "layer" inside my button |
| 01:43.08 | Sinopsis | so far i've been using addon studio, buggy as hell in design time, but seems pretty good in code view |
| 01:44.59 | Sinopsis | actually, if someone tell me quickly how to do 2 last things, i'll be done with this addon...I've got my button template in a scroll frame, i just need to stick the icon of an item in a ItemTemplateButton (with mousover tooltip) and change the text of the "layers" |
| 01:45.32 | Meorawr | If by changing text of a layer you mean changing the text of a fontstring element, 3 choices. 1) Global name. 2) Use the parentKey attribute and traverse to the string manually, or 3) Call GetRegions() on the parent frame and find the fontstring from that. |
| 01:45.45 | Meorawr | I'd opt for #2, personally. |
| 01:46.11 | Meorawr | Because #1 sucks, #3 sucks and #2 doesn't suck as much as the other two. |
| 01:46.18 | Sinopsis | lol |
| 01:46.55 | Meorawr | It's easily the best choice if the text is the direct child of the button. |
| 01:47.04 | Sinopsis | so if I have <FontString parentKey="name" name="$parentName" inherits="FriendsFont_Normal" justifyH="LEFT" text="Item Name"> |
| 01:47.37 | Meorawr | You could then access it from the parent element by accessing the name key. |
| 01:47.42 | Meorawr | And you could also drop the global name in the process. |
| 01:47.51 | Meorawr | It's a win win! |
| 01:48.03 | Sinopsis | the global name in this case is name="$parentName" |
| 01:48.04 | Sinopsis | ? |
| 01:48.08 | Meorawr | Yeah. |
| 01:48.31 | Meorawr | What isn't a win-win is my attempts to fix these damn animations for 4.1 :( |
| 01:48.56 | Sinopsis | ok, so if I have my button as local b = _G["mybutton"]; |
| 01:49.02 | Sinopsis | what addon meo? |
| 01:49.04 | Meorawr | I'm sure no users will mind their pulse animations blowing up for a frame or two randomly. |
| 01:49.10 | Meorawr | PowerAuras |
| 01:49.21 | Sinopsis | you're the pa author? |
| 01:49.27 | Meorawr | One of the devs, not the actual author |
| 01:49.38 | Sinopsis | well...regardless....much much <3 |
| 01:49.48 | Sinopsis | coulnd't raid without it anymore |
| 01:49.55 | Meorawr | Much much <3 in return I guess. |
| 01:50.28 | Meorawr | Anyways if your button was called mybutton, and you had that fontstring you mentioned you could edit the text by doing mybutton.name:SetText("loltext"); |
| 01:50.31 | Meorawr | But... |
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| 02:04.25 | Kraps | http://www.thedailyblink.com/comics/2011-04-15-137.jpg |
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| 02:18.37 | Kraps | "Lord Anthricyst, who went into exile in the Firelands after seeing his name mispelled way too many times." clever, Bibi |
| 02:19.11 | Bibi | yes I am. |
| 02:20.03 | Cide | no |
| 02:20.07 | Cide | cleverbot is more clever than you |
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| 02:21.54 | Kraps | oh those sneaky bastards at valve |
| 02:25.32 | Iriel | Kraps: What have they done now? |
| 02:26.25 | Kraps | Iriel: do the potatoes do anything? |
| 02:26.56 | Iriel | I'm not entirely sure whether they're scenic or are driving the progress bars |
| 02:26.57 | airtonix | make fisker delerious |
| 02:29.41 | Cide | Iriel: http://valvearg.com/wiki/File:Mail_from_Jeep_to_Ryukaki.png |
| 02:31.47 | karl_w_w | anyone know why you gradually accumulate question marks on your ignore list? |
| 02:36.04 | Iriel | karl_w_w: wild guess would be spam reports |
| 02:37.24 | Mr_Rabies | my ignore list is question-mark less |
| 02:37.31 | Mr_Rabies | and i report every spammer that badboy catches |
| 02:40.38 | Cairenn | characters that you had on your list that have subsequently deleted |
| 02:41.25 | Cairenn | s/ly/ly been / |
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| 02:49.01 | Dagmar | My new Sony Dash is playing Heavy Metal 2000. |
| 02:49.06 | Dagmar | This pleases me. |
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| 02:56.03 | Mr_Rabies | is it possible to change the in-game mail font? if so why haven't I been able to find an addon that does it :O |
| 02:59.07 | Dagmar | Fontain. |
| 02:59.18 | Dagmar | I don't even remember what the in-game mail font default looks like anymore |
| 02:59.57 | Mr_Rabies | a pile of garbage |
| 03:00.45 | Mr_Rabies | it was updated so long ago, does it still work D: |
| 03:01.29 | karl_w_w | why do people assume that if an addon wasnt updated in the last 3 months it must be broken? |
| 03:01.49 | Mr_Rabies | it's been almost 2 years D: |
| 03:01.54 | Mr_Rabies | i think it's fair to be hesistant |
| 03:02.25 | Dagmar | After someone's all but told you they're using it *now*? |
| 03:02.43 | kd3 | blah. I'm reminded of why I hate dressing up in suit & tie |
| 03:03.01 | Mr_Rabies | i'm also way less likely to use something that hasn't been maintained just in case blizzard decides to break it |
| 03:03.17 | karl_w_w | if you dont believe Dagmar you could always read the comments and see if it's working |
| 03:03.22 | Mr_Rabies | i'd rather not become dependent on something out of maintenence |
| 03:04.14 | karl_w_w | and if you dont know if its being maintained you could always check if the author has other addons |
| 03:04.29 | karl_w_w | or you know, ask him yourself |
| 03:04.47 | Dagmar | In the case of Fontain, it just doesn't matter. |
| 03:05.20 | Dagmar | It basically rifles through the XML stuff in the interface, lines up everything that invokes a font, reads the tag it uses to set that font, and then gives you a menu based on that |
| 03:05.34 | Dagmar | It's not 100% human-friendly in places, but it does let you set every freaking font |
| 03:06.15 | Dagmar | Blizz doesn't often dork around with the parts of the interface that it's dependent upon |
| 03:06.18 | Mr_Rabies | i mean hell, i installed an addon yesterday that for some reason, flat out said "incompatible" and i have no clue why D: |
| 03:06.32 | Ingela | don't install avre |
| 03:06.45 | Dagmar | Pretend you don't see OpenRDX. ;) |
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| 03:07.20 | Mr_Rabies | i'm going to install it |
| 03:07.27 | Mr_Rabies | and if it's not made of magical rainbows and hopes and dreams |
| 03:07.37 | Mr_Rabies | i will hold you personally responsible, dagmar and karl_w_w |
| 03:08.03 | DesertDwarf | if not stack or maxStack then |
| 03:08.22 | DesertDwarf | If either of those is NIL, will the overall expression be true? |
| 03:08.28 | Dagmar | It's made of driftwood and bits of rusty hacksaw blade, but it *does* get the job done |
| 03:08.58 | Dagmar | Thank god they got the Rawr addon going |
| 03:09.11 | Mr_Rabies | i'd love one that did realtime simulation ingame |
| 03:09.17 | Dagmar | No more having to manually enter all the gear I've piled up |
| 03:09.20 | Mr_Rabies | that would be the bee's knees |
| 03:09.41 | Dagmar | It would generate a never-ending stream of emails that it's too slow |
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| 03:09.51 | Mr_Rabies | or just gather fight information and use that to help |
| 03:09.54 | Mr_Rabies | or something i dunno D: |
| 03:12.30 | Mr_Rabies | oh jeez |
| 03:12.42 | Mr_Rabies | all of my fonts are slightly out of wack now |
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| 03:15.30 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i'm getting lua errors and fonts are doing some weird stuff |
| 03:15.51 | Mr_Rabies | thanks for the suggestion but i'm gonna find something that's been updated more recently :/ |
| 03:22.28 | Dagmar | Might wanna start by setting the Master font |
| 03:35.54 | airtonix | Dagmar: i'm deleting the bios from my 20 year old computer because it's not being maintained anymore. QQ |
| 03:36.07 | airtonix | :> |
| 03:54.38 | karl_w_w | <Mr_Rabies> i'd love one that did realtime simulation ingame <- would probably kill your fps to the point of DCing if they got that wrong :P |
| 03:54.48 | karl_w_w | and if they got it right it'd probably be pitifully slow |
| 03:58.59 | Kraps | "Battlestar Galactica Online scores a million pilots" |
| 04:00.04 | Kraps | http://www.gamingmasters.co.uk/portal/ |
| 04:07.13 | Cide | what the fuck |
| 04:07.29 | Cide | one hour for AAAAAA!!! ? |
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| 04:26.43 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 04:26.50 | Shirik | yes I saw him play that |
| 04:28.40 | Jamash | yay eots |
| 04:38.46 | Shirik | worst news headline ever |
| 04:38.52 | Shirik | At Least 4 Killed in NC Storms; Death Toll at 21 |
| 04:39.47 | ccox | Apparently math was not a required subject at journalism school |
| 04:40.01 | Shirik | well they got the math right |
| 04:40.04 | ccox | (or logic, or common sense...) |
| 04:40.11 | Shirik | technically they didn't say anything wrong |
| 04:40.18 | Shirik | they just didn't say anything intelligent |
| 04:40.33 | ccox | or, maybe the XKCD writer works for them... |
| 04:43.04 | Cide | hi Shirik |
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| 04:43.10 | Shirik | hi cide |
| 04:43.15 | Cide | how are you? |
| 04:48.43 | Cide | nice. I'm good, too |
| 04:52.44 | Adys | cide |
| 04:52.59 | Adys | is there a way to use the admin's neat javascript calendar for datetimefields ? |
| 04:53.04 | Adys | in forms |
| 04:53.40 | Cide | doesn't the admin do calendar + time field for those? |
| 04:53.55 | Shirik | I'm good Cide |
| 04:53.59 | Shirik | just finished day 1 of a tournament |
| 04:54.02 | Cide | see above |
| 04:54.14 | Adys | Cide: yeah, it does |
| 04:54.21 | Adys | but i want to use those in my site's forms |
| 04:54.24 | Adys | is there a shortcut? |
| 04:54.29 | Shirik | yes |
| 04:54.38 | Shirik | stop using python and all your problems will be solved |
| 04:54.39 | Cide | Adys: you can probably steal the js file and append it as field media |
| 04:54.47 | Adys | field media? |
| 04:55.03 | Adys | found |
| 04:55.46 | Cide | http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/forms/media/#media-as-a-static-definition |
| 04:56.01 | Cide | I'm not sure if you can pass it in as a parameter to the widget or if you have to create a subwidget |
| 04:56.16 | Adys | django.contrib.admin.widgets |
| 04:56.17 | Adys | hm |
| 04:56.20 | Cide | you probably want to steal the admin's widget+field |
| 04:56.23 | Cide | and redefine the media part |
| 05:00.15 | Adys | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38601/using-django-time-date-widgets-in-custom-form |
| 05:00.18 | Adys | jesus |
| 05:00.30 | Adys | so much for reusability |
| 05:01.11 | Cide | neat |
| 05:02.00 | Adys | no |
| 05:02.01 | Adys | not neat |
| 05:02.03 | Adys | horrible |
| 05:02.16 | Cide | indeed |
| 05:03.45 | Adys | yeah and it's not even working |
| 05:03.51 | Adys | Caught AttributeError while rendering: type object 'AdminDateWidget' has no attribute 'attrs' |
| 05:04.08 | Cide | might wanna instantiate it silly |
| 05:06.40 | Adys | figured |
| 05:06.45 | Adys | its still not working though |
| 05:06.48 | Adys | the media makes no sense |
| 05:08.56 | Cide | u makes no sense |
| 05:09.12 | starlon | computers are like that. either they like you or they don't. if you're on the central blacklist, forget programming all together. You'll be hard pressed writing Hello World in Python. |
| 05:09.42 | Adys | what? |
| 05:09.43 | Thunder_Child | "Piracy is not theft. Theft is taking something so no one else can have it. Piracy is copying a fail from one person's computer on to yours." this is wrong on so many levels. |
| 05:10.06 | Adys | theft isn't taking something so no one else can have it |
| 05:10.09 | Adys | that's called dickery |
| 05:10.40 | Adys | wtf Cide |
| 05:10.41 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.50 | Adys | from the admin |
| 05:11.32 | Cide | rofl? |
| 05:11.38 | Adys | yea |
| 05:11.47 | Cide | that's amazing |
| 05:11.56 | Adys | https://encrypted.google.com/search?&ie=UTF-8&q=%22m+o+n+o+s+p+a+c+e%22 |
| 05:11.58 | Adys | cmon google |
| 05:11.58 | Adys | :( |
| 05:12.20 | Cide | outsmrtd |
| 05:13.20 | Adys | there's no embedded javascript.. |
| 05:13.30 | Adys | oh |
| 05:13.32 | Adys | class=vDateField |
| 05:14.20 | Shirik | wtf is encrypted.google.com |
| 05:14.28 | Cide | ^ |
| 05:14.55 | karl_w_w | i dont understand |
| 05:15.08 | karl_w_w | its easy to do a javascript date picker |
| 05:15.39 | Adys | Shirik: google+ssl |
| 05:15.41 | Cide | it's easy to do your mom too |
| 05:16.12 | Shirik | but why |
| 05:16.16 | Cide | exactly |
| 05:16.18 | Shirik | why could you possibly need google over ssl |
| 05:16.28 | Iriel | privacy? |
| 05:16.44 | Iriel | not wanting to have the results hijacked by spam links or malware? |
| 05:16.59 | Shirik | I don't know that's borderlining on paranoia |
| 05:17.02 | Adys | so my isp doesn't see that I'm linked to terrorist organisations |
| 05:17.11 | Adys | crap, forgot i wasnt using irc over ssl.. |
| 05:17.19 | Shirik | hey don't say those kinds of things |
| 05:17.33 | Shirik | I'm in the process of getting a security clearance and the FBI's probably sitting here watching me |
| 05:17.43 | Adys | also Im using all of google's services over ssl |
| 05:17.46 | Adys | pure account security |
| 05:17.54 | Cide | now you're definitely blacklisted for spreading that to swedes, Shirik |
| 05:18.03 | Adys | and unlike other websites, google's ssl services arent shit |
| 05:18.09 | Shirik | oh yes because we're all afraid of swedes |
| 05:18.19 | Seerah | I am :p |
| 05:18.23 | Shirik | when someone thinks of dangerous countries that's who comes up |
| 05:18.25 | Adys | karl_w_w: it's also easy to buy a crossbow and shoot you in the head with it tbh |
| 05:18.37 | Adys | and by your logic, if it's easy to do, I should do it, right? |
| 05:18.39 | Adys | where do you live? |
| 05:18.50 | karl_w_w | 3 minutes to come up with that? :P |
| 05:18.55 | Shirik | where the hell are you going to buy a crossbow |
| 05:19.02 | Adys | i was replying to a more interesting conversation karl_w_w |
| 05:19.07 | Cide | YOU SHOULD BE |
| 05:19.08 | Cide | a |
| 05:19.12 | karl_w_w | Shirik: ebay |
| 05:19.19 | Cide | sweet mother of lag |
| 05:19.19 | Adys | Shirik: archery club... :P |
| 05:21.02 | Arrowmaster | oh damn i was going to link http://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-pussy.html for #5 on the list but hes from finland |
| 05:21.21 | Cide | he was trained by swedes |
| 05:21.38 | Adys | JESUS WHAT ARE THESE JS POPUPS AND HUGE BANNERS WTF |
| 05:21.52 | Cide | date picker |
| 05:22.01 | Cide | needs more ssl |
| 05:22.15 | Adys | who the FUCK has board meetings with designer experts yelling "This is good stuff for our user interface!" |
| 05:22.49 | Cide | you make a lot of sense |
| 05:23.08 | Adys | Cide: the cracked article Arrowmaster linked |
| 05:23.20 | Cide | didn't bother opening |
| 05:23.39 | Arrowmaster | yet you knew exactly who i was referring to? |
| 05:23.46 | Cide | well yes |
| 05:23.53 | Cide | all badasses are trained by swedes |
| 05:25.38 | Shirik | unlikely |
| 05:26.02 | Cide | but true |
| 05:26.07 | Shirik | the problem with swedes is they don't know how to write letters |
| 05:26.25 | Cide | lolwut |
| 05:26.26 | Shirik | sometimes their pen slips and they start putting strange markings over the letters |
| 05:26.46 | Cide | here I thought circles were part of the geometry curriculum |
| 05:26.56 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:26.59 | Shirik | but not english |
| 05:27.26 | Cide | o would like to have a word with you |
| 05:27.38 | Shirik | big o? |
| 05:27.52 | Cide | no? |
| 05:27.58 | Cide | that's an oval |
| 05:28.04 | Cide | or ellipse |
| 05:28.27 | Cide | I vastly overestimated your geometry skills Shirik! |
| 05:28.40 | Shirik | that's too bad |
| 05:28.44 | Shirik | big o is pretty cool |
| 05:29.02 | Cide | that's just the nickname though |
| 05:29.49 | Cide | now I must rest |
| 05:32.32 | Shirik | moi aussi |
| 05:36.22 | Sinopsis | is there a way to tell from an item link, what the item level of the reward is...ie. tokens from cho'gall..i need to know if its a 359 or 372 based off the itemid, itemlink or name without maintaining my own lookup table |
| 05:36.45 | Adys | no |
| 05:36.48 | Sinopsis | GetItemInfo() returns "85" as the itemlevel for 372 chest token :( |
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| 05:37.50 | Adys | there's no way, you need a lookup table |
| 05:38.13 | Sinopsis | :( |
| 05:38.24 | Sinopsis | is there one premade somewhere? :) |
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| 05:38.54 | Adys | maybe, it'll be faster making your own though than finding and modifying one. |
| 05:39.12 | Arrowmaster | LPT-3 might |
| 05:39.57 | Sinopsis | lpt-3? |
| 05:43.25 | Arrowmaster | libperiodictable |
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| 05:46.45 | Sinopsis | thx arrow, seems like alot of overhead for 20 items though, i'll just make my own table..thx |
| 05:47.20 | Adys | you'd have finished it by now |
| 05:47.20 | Adys | :P |
| 05:48.16 | Sinopsis | close, but probably not..i gotta figure out all the names and look them up on wowhead |
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| 05:52.48 | Sinopsis | who drops the heroic glove tokens? magmaw? |
| 05:55.57 | karl_w_w | you can see them all and what they turn into in atlas loot |
| 06:04.45 | Sinopsis | is there a "better" way of doing this? |
| 06:04.47 | Sinopsis | LootItemLevels["65000"]=372; |
| 06:06.44 | Stanzilla | Sinopsis: heroic and normal mode tokens have different names btw |
| 06:07.17 | Sinopsis | yea, but the itemids are shorter to type :) |
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| 06:13.43 | karl_w_w | yeah but they're less descriptive :P |
| 06:16.44 | Sinopsis | thx for the help everyone, i'm done with the addon now :) Now i have useful information from Mizus Raid Tracker |
| 06:16.51 | Adys | karl_w_w: they also would have to be localized |
| 06:16.57 | Adys | it'd be retarded to use names if you can use ids. |
| 06:17.09 | Adys | Sinopsis: there's no better way to do it no |
| 06:17.26 | Adys | unless you're aiming for a specific type of optimization |
| 06:17.47 | Sinopsis | naw..just didnt want to be doing something blatantly stupid |
| 06:26.31 | karl_w_w | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/887781-Photoshop-Thrall <- hahaha |
| 06:26.37 | karl_w_w | good point Adys |
| 06:27.17 | Adys | nice |
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| 09:37.48 | airtonix | no |
| 09:37.50 | bluspacecow | wai? |
| 09:37.53 | airtonix | omnipotent |
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| 09:38.36 | wereHamster | if you don't have flash installed, you see pretty much a blank page. youtube/vimeo at least display a notice that flash is required. http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/about/b20/videos.html#blizzard-retrospective |
| 09:39.24 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 09:40.01 | bluspacecow | i lolzed |
| 09:43.41 | karl_w_w | who is this a picture of? http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mBw9NvMSppI/TASWYxWhSOI/AAAAAAAAAA8/W51VUG_ZQ6Y/s1600/sonia_gandhi+yng.jpg |
| 09:44.57 | bluspacecow | reese with a spoon |
| 09:45.21 | karl_w_w | thats what i thought |
| 09:45.31 | karl_w_w | its meant to be this sonia gandhi person |
| 09:45.51 | karl_w_w | but wth? how can that not be with a spoon? :P |
| 09:45.55 | Fisker | who is reese with a spoon? |
| 09:46.17 | bluspacecow | http://www.imdb.com/media/rm668514304/nm0000702 |
| 09:46.45 | Fisker | No that's reese witherspoon |
| 09:46.58 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 09:47.03 | bluspacecow | reese with a spoon |
| 09:47.10 | Fisker | no! |
| 09:47.14 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 09:47.23 | Fisker | for some reason she reminds me of a porn star btw |
| 09:47.24 | bluspacecow | reese with _her_ spoon ? |
| 09:47.36 | wereHamster | wouldn't 'with *her* spoon' fit better? |
| 09:48.32 | bluspacecow | your logic is too logical |
| 09:48.34 | karl_w_w | Fisker that's cos she's smokin hot? :P |
| 09:53.28 | Fisker | one day karl_w_w |
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| 09:56.33 | karl_w_w | you can't Fisker, I heard she got married |
| 09:57.05 | karl_w_w | wikipedia agrees |
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| 10:13.23 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 10:13.28 | bluspacecow | your taking about fisker here |
| 10:13.35 | bluspacecow | *talking |
| 10:13.56 | bluspacecow | doing peoples mums is what he does on a regular basis ! this wouldn't stop him at all :D |
| 10:14.54 | Fisker | :O |
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| 10:35.10 | karl_w_w | damn its been like 6 months since i played dota |
| 10:35.27 | karl_w_w | im gonna be crap again when i go back to it :P |
| 10:38.37 | karl_w_w | in other highly important news, ive just noticed my highest rated wowhead comment is also my shortest, +279 rating/2 words :P |
| 10:43.09 | clever | karl_w_w: what two words did you use? |
| 10:45.31 | Arrowmaster | "hunter item" |
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| 11:22.50 | karl_w_w | close Arrowmaster :P |
| 11:22.51 | karl_w_w | http://www.wowhead.com/item=46017#comments:id=694308 |
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| 11:33.16 | karl_w_w | if you mouse over a party member on the world map, how can you get the name of that person? |
| 11:36.53 | karl_w_w | i could log in and experiment for myself but then the guild stalkers would be at me to do arena or random heroics or some shit :P |
| 11:38.57 | Torhal | karl_w_w: "Sorry, coding - fuck off." <--- how to deal with guild stalkers. |
| 11:40.14 | zenzelezz | "busy, wanking" |
| 11:40.21 | zenzelezz | you'll never have problems again |
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| 11:55.05 | clever | zenzelezz: but then why are you ingame? :P |
| 11:55.23 | clever | is it the female blood-elves again? |
| 11:56.57 | zenzelezz | clever: two computers |
| 11:59.41 | karl_w_w | belf twins, 1 on each screen? |
| 12:01.29 | zenzelezz | why would I need blood elves when I have proper girl on girl porn? |
| 12:01.46 | nevcairiel | because you're sick? |
| 12:01.54 | zenzelezz | no, the fetishes cover that |
| 12:02.13 | karl_w_w | belf cosplay? |
| 12:02.23 | zenzelezz | I'm afraid I don't share your interest |
| 12:03.11 | Fisker |  |
| 12:05.55 | karl_w_w | dont try to drag me into your sad little world with your tricky wordplay zenzelezz |
| 12:06.34 | zenzelezz | you're the one who keeps bringing up blood elves; I'm sure the psychiatrists would have a field day with you |
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| 12:27.49 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XFs2kHq114 |
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| 12:44.13 | Kraps | the portal thing would have been more interesting if you could get it released a week or so earlier, not less than 24 hours |
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| 12:58.24 | airtonix | i sense some heavy emotions here |
| 12:59.12 | mikma | stop being so emo |
| 12:59.38 | A-KO | Kraps: the marketers/business types wouldn't like that. I'm not quite sure why they push for Tuesday releases, it makes 0 sense to me. |
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| 13:37.21 | Kraps | airtonix/mikma, fyi i dont plan on buying portal 2 anytime soon, if ever :p |
| 13:37.29 | Kraps | just sayin |
| 13:41.01 | mikma | kraps: eat a dick |
| 13:41.25 | Kraps | i dont go that way |
| 13:41.38 | mikma | ok, choke on a dick |
| 13:42.20 | Kraps | same difference |
| 13:42.41 | Kraps | heres some visual sex though http://vimeo.com/22439234 |
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| 14:35.44 | airtonix | thanks for keeping me informed, i can now plan for other countermeasures to ensure your demise |
| 14:36.02 | airtonix | the deathstar is nearing completion |
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| 14:39.00 | bluspacecow_ | HAI2U NEV |
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| 14:43.11 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: really? stop slacking, you have had days to complete that thing |
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| 14:55.50 | airtonix | who are you? |
| 14:56.29 | Meorawr | The voice inside your head that no one else can hear. |
| 14:59.01 | airtonix | oh ok |
| 14:59.51 | Kraps | austrailia? the land down under? thats a fabulous idea! |
| 15:00.24 | Wobin | Nechckn: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SAuZ822t3tg/TapFWNq2gaI/AAAAAAAAUgc/MKlpbZAIElQ/s400/angrychickn_reddit.jpg |
| 15:01.20 | airtonix | so chicken pumped with steroids? |
| 15:01.32 | Wobin | SO SO ANGRY |
| 15:01.34 | Meorawr | I wouldn't mess with those chickens. They're so so angry. |
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| 15:19.27 | bluspacecow_ | http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/e7fa/ |
| 15:20.42 | foxlit | Hey, Fisker . |
| 15:20.44 | Meorawr | Only 1 TNT block per sheet? |
| 15:20.47 | foxlit | How to Portal 2 like the pros? |
| 15:21.45 | zenzelezz | clearly you just need a pair of Koss Portalpro |
| 15:23.16 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 15:23.18 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:23.28 | Fisker | can't Portal 2 until Valve stops trolling us |
| 15:25.08 | foxlit | The heck is with the EUR prices mark-up, anyway? |
| 15:29.36 | Jamash | bluspacecow_: O_o |
| 15:29.59 | Fisker | taxes foxlit |
| 15:30.03 | bluspacecow_ | 'sup jamash |
| 15:30.17 | Jamash | I note that the stickers cost as much as Minecraft |
| 15:30.20 | bluspacecow_ | @fisker Valve out trolled you |
| 15:30.24 | Fisker | no |
| 15:30.26 | bluspacecow_ | owned. |
| 15:30.46 | Jamash | Valve trolls for effect |
| 15:30.47 | Fisker | anyway |
| 15:30.57 | Fisker | ~500 taters until maximum troll mode |
| 15:31.04 | bluspacecow_ | i can just imagine their execs watching that page and going "you jelly" with trollface.jpg faces on |
| 15:31.10 | airtonix | umad? |
| 15:31.22 | Fisker | noumad |
| 15:31.41 | bluspacecow_ | whats the link fiskery fiskers ? to the valve potatoes trolling ? |
| 15:32.50 | Xinhuan | cogwheel should advertise his server to more ppl on wowace/wowi |
| 15:32.54 | Xinhuan | NEED MORE PLAYERS |
| 15:33.20 | bluspacecow_ | i would play xinny right now |
| 15:33.29 | bluspacecow_ | but im at work and unsure how to make it work |
| 15:33.35 | Jamash | http://www.thinkwithportals.com/coop_survey.php?result=wheatley <-- SURPRISINGLY ACCURATE |
| 15:33.37 | bluspacecow_ | and how to make it undetectable. |
| 15:33.50 | Fisker | LESS THAN 50 TATERS bluspacecow_ |
| 15:34.01 | bluspacecow_ | squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 15:34.22 | Fisker | less than 75 actually |
| 15:35.23 | zenzelezz | I don't get it. What is Wheatley? |
| 15:35.30 | Jamash | he's a personality sphere, duhd |
| 15:35.49 | Jamash | he has a british accent |
| 15:36.54 | Jamash | http://youtu.be/Mz0PvYiHjwE |
| 15:42.06 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 15:42.30 | Jamash | What did you get on the coop survey Fisker? |
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| 15:45.45 | Kraps | sue me |
| 15:46.11 | airtonix | you'll hear from my lawyer |
| 15:47.26 | Fisker | GARBAGE DAY |
| 15:47.29 | Fisker | Chell Jamash |
| 15:47.42 | Jamash | I figured GlaDOS |
| 15:47.52 | Jamash | are you sure you didn't cheat? |
| 15:48.25 | Fisker | maybe i did |
| 15:50.53 | Jamash | actually you're more of a Cave Johnson |
| 15:57.30 | ApertureTurret | are you still there? |
| 15:57.57 | A-KO | http://youtu.be/EG5ZkPere9s?hd=1 |
| 16:01.41 | Kraps | http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/04/13/brad-wardell-steam-taking-away-valve039s-game-development-efforts |
| 16:03.50 | Kraps | A-KO: is that the new MK game people are going on about? |
| 16:16.21 | Ackis | I hate you Fisker |
| 16:17.39 | A-KO | yeah Kraps |
| 16:18.12 | Ackis | I'm losing some potatos today because of Fisker |
| 16:22.03 | bluspacecow_ | he ate them |
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| 16:24.42 | Grouch11 | wow, it's so amazingly beautiful in texas today. |
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| 16:25.34 | Grouch11 | its like 73 degrees. 5mph breeze. lawn equipment buzzing in every direction. jeeps full of bikini clad high school girls at every stoplight. texas is wonderful. |
| 16:25.53 | Grouch11 | save the conservatives. |
| 16:26.10 | zenzelezz | not wonderful enough to capitalise apparently |
| 16:26.26 | Grouch11 | let's leave the syntax to Lua |
| 16:26.50 | Grouch11 | who can be bothered to hit shift these days in matters of pure articulation |
| 16:26.55 | Grouch11 | or questin mark for that matter |
| 16:27.13 | Ackis | I can? |
| 16:27.36 | Grouch11 | thank god for ackis. proving that we can all be better, one day at a time! |
| 16:27.53 | zenzelezz | now there's something no-one expected to ever hear |
| 16:27.58 | Grouch11 | lol |
| 16:30.04 | Jamash | I can't remember the difference between ackis and adys |
| 16:30.23 | Ackis | I'm the better looking one Jamash |
| 16:30.28 | Jamash | okay |
| 16:31.03 | Jamash | someone should make a map plugin for atlasloot |
| 16:32.04 | Grouch11 | jamash, to what end |
| 16:32.19 | Jamash | you know, to show dungeon maps and stuff |
| 16:32.28 | bluspacecow_ | a sexy end ! |
| 16:32.42 | Grouch11 | oh.. rather than using the built in maps? |
| 16:32.56 | Jamash | well I'm in arcatraz |
| 16:33.26 | Grouch11 | i dont know what that means. eff it, we'll do it live. |
| 16:33.44 | nevcairiel | Jamash: just wait for 4.1, then arcatraz also has maps |
| 16:34.13 | Jamash | you guys are fail |
| 16:34.34 | zenzelezz | does Atlas not work anymore? |
| 16:34.38 | Jamash | FINALLY |
| 16:34.50 | nevcairiel | atlas ever worked? |
| 16:34.55 | Grouch11 | it kinda worked. |
| 16:34.59 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: it did when I started playing |
| 16:35.01 | Jamash | I don't know why I even bother trolling if nobody's going to take the bait |
| 16:35.16 | nevcairiel | we're just troll resistant |
| 16:35.20 | Grouch11 | we are far too literal minded in here. lol |
| 16:35.22 | nevcairiel | and troll the troll |
| 16:35.28 | Grouch11 | lol |
| 16:35.38 | Jamash | where I go after soccratthatatestes |
| 16:35.48 | Kraps | Jamash: are you a quitter? Fisker never quits |
| 16:36.10 | Jamash | fisker quits before the game starts |
| 16:36.20 | Fisker | bitches |
| 16:36.22 | Grouch11 | lol |
| 16:36.22 | Ackis | I don't like Fisker right now |
| 16:36.26 | Kraps | asses |
| 16:36.33 | Fisker | why not Ackis ? |
| 16:36.36 | Fisker | you got gaem for free |
| 16:36.52 | Ackis | I'm going to lose some potatos :( |
| 16:37.01 | Fisker | hehe Kraps |
| 16:37.06 | Fisker | Wardell full of shit again |
| 16:37.11 | Fisker | yeah Ackis |
| 16:37.22 | Jamash | potatroll |
| 16:37.38 | Fisker | Pa'Troll |
| 16:38.40 | Ackis | Fisker: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1842122 |
| 16:38.43 | Jamash | ​/rage |
| 16:38.49 | Jamash | I hated Pa'Troll |
| 16:39.33 | Jamash | what is this potato thing |
| 16:39.57 | Jamash | I joined a steam user group and now I have a potato |
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| 16:41.19 | foxlit | "Fisker: taxes foxlit" << bs |
| 16:41.31 | foxlit | the uk/dk difference in taxes is not significant enough for this silliness |
| 16:41.55 | foxlit | it's basically 27 pounds in the UK, and 40 in EU |
| 16:42.03 | zenzelezz | all of EU? |
| 16:42.09 | foxlit | all of eu |
| 16:42.14 | zenzelezz | hm, don't know then |
| 16:42.18 | nevcairiel | all that use the Euro, he probably means :p |
| 16:42.32 | foxlit | steam can't be bothered to localize for those who don't |
| 16:42.43 | foxlit | so even if you're not on the eurotrain, you pay in euros. |
| 16:43.19 | nevcairiel | too bad you cannot choose which currency to pay in, even if its only one of the supported ones, like just choosing to pay in dollars or pounds |
| 16:43.43 | foxlit | it'd appear that they require your billing details to match |
| 16:44.11 | Ackis | nevcairiel: I'd pay in peso's |
| 16:44.20 | Adys | foxlit: I bought portal 2 for a friend in germany |
| 16:44.35 | nevcairiel | Steam also likes to do the old $50 = 50€ trick, because changing the number is hard work :p |
| 16:44.39 | Adys | on a 2-pack, 27gbp instead of 50 without anything |
| 16:46.50 | foxlit | It's still weird that the UK prices are ... low. |
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| 16:47.11 | Adys | they're the same as in the US |
| 16:47.19 | Adys | it's just that they're high everywhere else |
| 16:47.39 | foxlit | good point, approximately the same. |
| 16:48.45 | Grouch11 | what's the general protocol for including applicable libraries in your addon? are there some that can be generally assumed to be present on most systems? |
| 16:50.24 | zenzelezz | Grouch11: what libraries did you have in mind? |
| 16:51.57 | Grouch11 | just basic ones that automate easy stuff. aceconfig. i'm also going to be using libgraph, which i suppose will exist if users have recount. |
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| 16:52.27 | A-KO | you should include the libraries with your addon |
| 16:52.38 | Grouch11 | i guess they are so small that it just doesnt reall ymatter |
| 16:52.38 | zenzelezz | Grouch11: well do you expect your users to have recount? I don't. I also don't know if I have AceConfig |
| 16:52.45 | zenzelezz | there's no folder for it at least on my system |
| 16:53.03 | Grouch11 | its probably in ace3 |
| 16:53.07 | Grouch11 | if you have that |
| 16:53.07 | nevcairiel | Its in Ace3, any addon using ace3 configurations would have it |
| 16:53.26 | nevcairiel | But yeah, you should always ship all libs with your addon |
| 16:53.31 | nevcairiel | its just about saving you work |
| 16:53.35 | nevcairiel | not saving you on download size |
| 16:53.40 | Grouch11 | right |
| 16:53.54 | Grouch11 | thx guys |
| 16:55.44 | Grouch11 | so, something kind of funny. this morning i went to brunch with some homies. apparently there was some drama of some kind last night. as payback, one of the girls in question had her cranberry juice(in styrofaom) replaced with warm-ish milk while she was in the bathroom. |
| 16:55.52 | Grouch11 | she threw up the second she took a sip. |
| 16:56.01 | Grouch11 | it was HILarious |
| 16:56.23 | Grouch11 | expectations |
| 16:57.11 | nevcairiel | whats so special about milk |
| 16:57.56 | Grouch11 | its thick and warm and base-ish as opposed to thin and cold and acidic. |
| 16:58.02 | Grouch11 | its just a contrast in expectation. |
| 16:58.11 | Grouch11 | did not compute. brain said "reject" |
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| 16:58.19 | zenzelezz | throwing up seems an odd reaction to something unexpected |
| 16:58.31 | Grouch11 | when it involved ingestion, not so odd |
| 16:58.39 | Kraps | when it happens with food |
| 16:58.41 | Grouch11 | if you were there, you'da seen it. |
| 16:58.48 | Grouch11 | it was legitimate |
| 16:59.00 | Grouch11 | and she was so embarrased and pissed. |
| 16:59.03 | Grouch11 | made for a funny mornint |
| 16:59.05 | Grouch11 | morning |
| 16:59.31 | Kraps | yes, amusing |
| 16:59.33 | Grouch11 | apparently, she chose to leave some people behind somewhere last night. |
| 16:59.46 | Kraps | adjusts his monocle |
| 16:59.48 | Grouch11 | doubtful that she will again. |
| 17:00.08 | Grouch11 | also doubtful that she will drink anything with a lid on it. |
| 17:00.09 | nevcairiel | I never got that kind of "humor", i always thought it was just stupid |
| 17:00.09 | Grouch11 | lol |
| 17:00.12 | nevcairiel | kids these days.. |
| 17:00.22 | Grouch11 | it wasnt humor. |
| 17:00.24 | Grouch11 | it was retribution |
| 17:00.27 | Grouch11 | it ended up funny |
| 17:00.44 | Grouch11 | at least we were outdoors |
| 17:00.46 | nevcairiel | retribution in general is stupid |
| 17:00.58 | zenzelezz | agreed |
| 17:01.05 | nevcairiel | especially on paladins |
| 17:01.07 | Grouch11 | its the nature of an aware being. |
| 17:01.41 | nevcairiel | its the nature of a 16 year old aware being. grow up. :P |
| 17:01.42 | Grouch11 | speaking of RET. its over. 20sec word CD. gg. |
| 17:02.34 | Grouch11 | it sure is sweet of you guys to defend her. i shouldve modified her to him. you'da laughed then, nerds. |
| 17:02.52 | Grouch11 | <3 |
| 17:02.54 | nevcairiel | not particularly, no |
| 17:03.15 | Grouch11 | oh nev. we can't all be as adult and inwardly inhibited as you. |
| 17:03.33 | nevcairiel | but the world would be such a better place |
| 17:03.51 | Grouch11 | its enough for me to inhibit the natural desire to bash people in general society. |
| 17:03.54 | nevcairiel | you wasted perfectly good milk there! |
| 17:03.58 | Grouch11 | lol |
| 17:04.01 | Grouch11 | kids in africa |
| 17:04.06 | Grouch11 | (are lactose intolerant) |
| 17:04.40 | Grouch11 | wait now, i was an innocent bystander. i dare not presume to parent anyone, given my demeanor and circumstances. |
| 17:04.49 | nevcairiel | where the hell do you get warm milk from suddenly anyway |
| 17:04.56 | Grouch11 | we were outdoors and it was late in the meal |
| 17:05.01 | Meorawr | It wasn't really milk I guess. |
| 17:05.15 | Grouch11 | oh, it was milk. |
| 17:05.51 | Grouch11 | its just, she didnt immediatly recognise that. all she knew at a glance was that it was thick, warm and not cranberry juice |
| 17:06.04 | Grouch11 | s/recognise/recognize |
| 17:06.16 | Grouch11 | is that thing not on |
| 17:06.21 | Grouch11 | or did i do it wrong |
| 17:06.33 | nevcairiel | milk is thick? what was it, fresh out of a cow? |
| 17:07.01 | Grouch11 | lol. dont tell me youre questioning the juxtaposition of properties between juice and milk |
| 17:07.10 | Dagmar | "Man milk" |
| 17:07.14 | Grouch11 | gross dag |
| 17:07.16 | Grouch11 | srs |
| 17:07.27 | Dagmar | Who the hell drinks cow milk *warm*? |
| 17:07.34 | Grouch11 | precisely |
| 17:07.41 | Grouch11 | in this case, no one. |
| 17:07.43 | Grouch11 | lol |
| 17:07.45 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: calfs |
| 17:07.51 | Dagmar | Milk is also very much not thick. |
| 17:08.03 | Grouch11 | you guys are drinking skim |
| 17:08.05 | Wobin | unless it's off |
| 17:08.08 | Grouch11 | we dont do that in texas. |
| 17:08.13 | Wobin | and then it's just lumpy |
| 17:08.36 | Dagmar | 2%, Acidophilus, whole milk... none of it is "thick". Cream is thick, almost. |
| 17:08.39 | Wobin | I hear only two things come from Texas |
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| 17:08.45 | Dagmar | Three. |
| 17:08.51 | Dagmar | Beers, steers, and queers. |
| 17:09.08 | bluspacecow | the captcha to get on the free node webchat this time was "1861 postion d" |
| 17:09.15 | bluspacecow | o-O |
| 17:09.37 | Grouch11 | lol. come to austin texas. you wont leave. |
| 17:09.39 | nevcairiel | those captchas at least used to be pronouncable words, lately they are really going down |
| 17:09.54 | nevcairiel | Grouch11: because they wont let you? |
| 17:10.00 | Grouch11 | your penis wont |
| 17:10.36 | Grouch11 | its like an experimenting hot girl factory near here or something. |
| 17:11.00 | nevcairiel | and you're wasting a perfectly good sunday on irc? :) |
| 17:11.05 | Grouch11 | washes his hands of the whole thing. |
| 17:11.45 | Grouch11 | its like r. kelly. once you've had every girl in every way imaginable.. you need to pee on little kids to get off. im peeing on wowuidev instead. |
| 17:11.47 | Grouch11 | LAWL |
| 17:12.00 | Kraps | ... |
| 17:12.05 | Grouch11 | haha |
| 17:12.12 | Grouch11 | maybe that was a little overboard. lol |
| 17:12.14 | zenzelezz | Grouch11: you might want to be careful with those jokes |
| 17:12.36 | nevcairiel | we could send the fisker after him |
| 17:12.42 | zenzelezz | good idea |
| 17:12.51 | Kraps | thats harsh |
| 17:13.04 | Kraps | i wouldnt wish Fisker on my worst enemy |
| 17:13.29 | Grouch11 | lol. i dont think im being overly inappropriate. i'm just chatting. if im offending someone, i'd beg them to communicate that. |
| 17:14.12 | Grouch11 | fisker seems to be quite nice, imo. |
| 17:14.19 | Grouch11 | maybe ive not seen what it is you are referring to |
| 17:15.00 | Grouch11 | and, i guess i should apologize to r. kelly fans. my bad. |
| 17:15.23 | zenzelezz | there's funny, and there's distasteful |
| 17:15.31 | zenzelezz | we don't tend to like distasteful |
| 17:15.32 | Dagmar | Like they're smart enough to be online |
| 17:15.38 | Grouch11 | lol dag |
| 17:15.40 | Grouch11 | ha |
| 17:15.46 | Grouch11 | and IM the asshole |
| 17:16.09 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:16.14 | zenzelezz | you were the one joking about kids |
| 17:16.20 | Dagmar | My opinion of gangster rap fans is down there with cud-chewing rednecks |
| 17:16.49 | Grouch11 | zenze, you're selecting words at your leisure. i was NOT joking about kids. i was joking about human nature. |
| 17:17.09 | zenzelezz | by invoking a joke about peeing on kids |
| 17:17.21 | Grouch11 | by recalling a true situation. |
| 17:17.35 | zenzelezz | oh, well that just makes the holocaust hilarious then |
| 17:17.40 | Grouch11 | whatever though. i dont mean to ruffle you up. ill tone it down in the future. |
| 17:17.55 | Meorawr | Can't we all just get along and play in a meadow full of unicorns? |
| 17:18.01 | Dagmar | Waitaminit... Mel Brooks made that real funny |
| 17:18.07 | Dagmar | He can make jokes about it if he's a minor |
| 17:18.12 | Grouch11 | i formally apologize for bringing a low class topic into this room. |
| 17:18.54 | Grouch11 | it was certainly meant to articulate a point that, i still believe, was determinable by anyone not predispositioned to be upset about it. |
| 17:19.07 | zenzelezz | Grouch11: I sound more dramatic than I meant; you seem like a decent person so I figured I'd let you know you had hit a spot that doesn't always go well in here |
| 17:19.15 | Grouch11 | understood |
| 17:19.34 | Grouch11 | i appreciate the heads up |
| 17:20.58 | Grouch11 | whats the moral stance on re-doing an addon that significantly lacks functionality? is that considered jerk-ish? |
| 17:21.30 | zenzelezz | if yours adds functionality then I'd say it's only inspired by the other |
| 17:21.48 | zenzelezz | either way, it happens a lot; intentionally and otherwise |
| 17:21.48 | Grouch11 | do i need regard him in the notes if i've not used any of his code? |
| 17:21.56 | zenzelezz | nope |
| 17:22.01 | Grouch11 | k |
| 17:22.32 | Meorawr | Though I'd say it was "nice" if you included a note somewhere saying the addon was inspired by another one. |
| 17:22.38 | Meorawr | But it's not necessary. |
| 17:23.22 | Grouch11 | i honestly think it was just a person that was building it for his own use and decided to share it. its clear that he set his options in the scripts themselves. he just added the slash options library and released it. |
| 17:24.29 | Grouch11 | ace libraries are really nice. i never chose to use them and wrote everything myself. but damn.. why? |
| 17:25.30 | Dagmar | Simple time calculation |
| 17:25.32 | Grouch11 | libgraph is going to save me an amount of time that i can't even contemplate. |
| 17:25.48 | Jamash | my ace libs are 9x bigger than the code I wrote :-w |
| 17:25.58 | Dagmar | People generally try to figure whether or not it would be faster to write it themselves or to figure out someone else's code that does it |
| 17:26.01 | Grouch11 | srs. core is like 26 lines |
| 17:26.08 | Dagmar | They're often wrong |
| 17:26.24 | Grouch11 | well, for me.. im still wet behind the ears here. i prefer to do it myself for that reason |
| 17:26.38 | foxlit | gr |
| 17:26.49 | foxlit | Any idea where I can steal an item name => item id map? |
| 17:27.03 | Grouch11 | hmm |
| 17:27.07 | Jamash | scrape wowhead |
| 17:27.07 | Dagmar | Not sure if such a thing exists |
| 17:27.12 | Grouch11 | for all in game items? |
| 17:27.20 | Meorawr | The time it'd take me to figure out how to use ace effectively and to then write addons around that would take longer than it would for me to just do things the way I normally do them. |
| 17:27.23 | Dagmar | You'd probably be better off scraping your own cache |
| 17:27.28 | Jamash | scrape the official armory :D |
| 17:27.31 | foxlit | item caches are dead |
| 17:27.35 | foxlit | news at 11 :) |
| 17:27.46 | Grouch11 | meor, i thought that also, but they are all pretty similar in calling. |
| 17:27.55 | zenzelezz | you could ask Adys perhaps, doesn't he have a database site? |
| 17:28.11 | Adys | i stopped working on wow a while back zenzelezz |
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| 17:28.19 | zenzelezz | oh |
| 17:28.21 | Grouch11 | i only use the ones that are for simple stuff that i know how to do, honestly. |
| 17:28.26 | Grouch11 | if i dont know how to do it, i do it myself. |
| 17:28.36 | Dagmar | Cor. This is the cleanest my mailboxes have ever been |
| 17:28.40 | Adys | foxlit: however, if its still up to date, db.mmoc would have json maps you can use |
| 17:28.51 | foxlit | oh? |
| 17:29.03 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/12345/json |
| 17:29.23 | foxlit | Do I just flood it with 99999 requests? :) |
| 17:29.28 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 17:29.58 | Adys | you can get the max id too |
| 17:29.59 | Adys | somewhere |
| 17:30.00 | Adys | sec |
| 17:30.02 | Grouch11 | fox, why can you not just dynamically create lists when items appear? dont want to do that? |
| 17:30.14 | foxlit | Grouch11: not for an addon. |
| 17:30.17 | Grouch11 | ahh |
| 17:30.52 | Adys | foxlit: max id 70099 |
| 17:31.04 | foxlit | 57899 items, anyhow |
| 17:31.26 | foxlit | I don't suppose the search pages generate json? |
| 17:31.43 | Adys | it used to have its own json you could request, I think I removed that |
| 17:31.52 | Adys | but its inline json if thats any good |
| 17:31.57 | Adys | view-source:http://db.mmo-champion.com/items |
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| 17:32.13 | foxlit | Hm, could parse that |
| 17:32.25 | Adys | I guess you could request batches of 500 items with items?id__min=1&id__max=500 |
| 17:32.27 | Adys | and so on |
| 17:32.34 | foxlit | indeed. |
| 17:32.48 | Adys | if you have the courage you can even generate your own url requests by parsing ptr's item.db2 ids |
| 17:33.44 | foxlit | Might not have the need :) |
| 17:33.52 | Adys | probably not worth it yeah |
| 17:34.45 | Adys | actually foxlit |
| 17:35.04 | Adys | foxlit: try items?id__min=1&id__max=3000&results_max=3000 |
| 17:35.45 | foxlit | that looks like it works as well |
| 17:35.52 | Adys | 3000 is the hard cap |
| 17:36.42 | Maldivia | pssh... go parse item-sparse youself instead... heh :P |
| 17:36.57 | Adys | he's lazy |
| 17:37.40 | foxlit | I don't presume all of the items are stored somewhere client accessible without trickery? |
| 17:38.15 | Maldivia | not all |
| 17:38.18 | Maldivia | most are |
| 17:38.30 | Adys | foxlit: item.db2 contains all the ids |
| 17:38.39 | Adys | unless they hotfixed additional items since last patch |
| 17:38.49 | Maldivia | well, in build 13812 item-sparse had 50014 entries, item had 59421 entries |
| 17:38.52 | Adys | but it doesnt contain much more than display id and icon |
| 17:40.23 | Maldivia | for 13650, item-sparse: 50073, item: 59475 |
| 17:40.28 | Maldivia | 13850* |
| 17:40.56 | foxlit | 19:40:49 ERROR 502: Bad Gateway. |
| 17:41.22 | Adys | on db.mmoc? |
| 17:41.27 | foxlit | just briefly |
| 17:41.36 | Adys | maybe 3000 was still too high of a cap :P |
| 17:41.38 | Adys | try 2000 |
| 17:41.41 | foxlit | I did something that could hardly be considered fair. |
| 17:41.57 | Adys | give it like 5-10 seconds between requests |
| 17:42.00 | Adys | and it should be fine |
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| 17:43.57 | foxlit | Heh, it only sneezed at 2 of 27 simultaneous requests. np. |
| 17:44.18 | Adys | yeah, none of these requests are cached |
| 17:44.28 | Adys | db.mmoc runs very lightly because it relies on very long time caching |
| 17:44.41 | foxlit | I don't imagine the actual queries are expensive |
| 17:45.11 | foxlit | generating the page might be evil, though |
| 17:45.42 | Adys | they are; 3000 items out of a table are fetched (with some additional rows for some other data), then they are parsed, then the page is generated, then the page is sent |
| 17:46.21 | Adys | thats apache and postgres sweating it for a few seconds, varnish does all the job usually |
| 17:49.20 | Fisker | Garbage day |
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| 17:49.49 | Fisker | speaking of which |
| 17:50.11 | Fisker | hello Seerah |
| 17:50.22 | Seerah | g'day, Fisker |
| 17:50.44 | bluspacecow | hai2u seerah |
| 17:50.53 | Seerah | o/ |
| 17:51.11 | zenzelezz | Varnish is pretty cool when used right |
| 17:52.48 | foxlit | have it now, awesome. |
| 17:53.03 | zenzelezz | what did you need it for? |
| 17:53.33 | Seerah | wow... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110417/ap_on_re_us/us_severe_weather_63 Now I'll take the lost sleep on Thursday night from this storm... |
| 17:53.58 | foxlit | Figuring out what the item id for a given item name is. |
| 17:58.01 | Jamash | is varnish what rouges use to reduce spell damage? |
| 17:58.59 | bluspacecow | rouges or rogues ? |
| 17:59.06 | zenzelezz | Varnish is an open source cache thingamajig |
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| 18:15.23 | TC-Laptop | heh, for once i am actually at LAX |
| 18:17.54 | nevcairiel | ~weather |
| 18:18.06 | nevcairiel | ~weather give me the urls to lookup the codes |
| 18:18.19 | bluspacecow | i go home nows |
| 18:18.56 | nevcairiel | ~weather eddh |
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| 18:54.51 | foxlit | ""We want to save our population from being murdered by these merciless death squads." |
| 18:55.12 | foxlit | Every news story is improved by sprinkling it the phrase "death squads" liberally. |
| 19:00.39 | Jamash | the excitement surrounding the opening of the new mall was diminished when a sudden burst of death squads sent people running for cover |
| 19:00.47 | Jamash | yeah, could be |
| 19:02.16 | Meorawr | "The Lib Dems and Tories are committed to the coalition however the AV referendum ends, the PM says - as he and Nick Clegg continue recruiting death squads for opposing sides." |
| 19:02.20 | Meorawr | Guess it works. |
| 19:02.37 | Meorawr | Certainly makes politics more interesting. |
| 19:03.46 | zenzelezz | that reminds me of when my fixer in Anarchy Online was running around in full Cyborg Death Squad armor... good times |
| 19:04.49 | Meorawr | I've a feeling trying to test if my durability meter works while on a level 1 alt with an undismissable pet is going to take a bloody age. |
| 19:04.57 | Meorawr | I'll just assume it works. |
| 19:05.40 | foxlit | drown. repeatedly |
| 19:05.56 | foxlit | death by lava is also an option |
| 19:06.12 | Meorawr | Lack of lava and deep water by Gnomeregan. |
| 19:06.16 | Meorawr | Wait |
| 19:06.19 | Meorawr | Gnomeregan... |
| 19:06.26 | Meorawr | No wait, level requirement at the entrance. |
| 19:06.43 | Meorawr | I'll just poke mobs with sticks and hope I don't die. |
| 19:07.37 | Jamash | why hope you don't die? |
| 19:07.44 | Jamash | dying reduces durability real good |
| 19:07.49 | Meorawr | Because it'll look silly. |
| 19:08.01 | Jamash | ... |
| 19:08.05 | Meorawr | Run in as a level 1 warlock, poke level 2 mob with stick, get mauled. |
| 19:08.09 | foxlit | You could beat on a target dummy |
| 19:08.33 | Meorawr | Effort. My stick idea works fine. |
| 19:09.29 | Grouch11 | how do you force type in lua? i want a double to an integer. |
| 19:10.14 | Jamash | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#5.6 |
| 19:10.24 | zenzelezz | since you don't take durability until level 10, it would indeed be hard at level 1 |
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| 19:10.32 | zenzelezz | or at least a few levels |
| 19:10.42 | zenzelezz | my level 1 almost-World Explorer never took durability |
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| 19:11.12 | Jamash | I know you don't get rez sickness below 10 |
| 19:11.37 | Grouch11 | math.floor(doubleValue) = round down? |
| 19:12.14 | Jamash | well, truncate rather than round, but yes |
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| 19:12.43 | foxlit | Lua doesn't care for your "doubles" and "integers" :) |
| 19:12.45 | Arrowmaster | i dont think you take death durability loss below 10 but you might still take normal wear loss |
| 19:13.03 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: normal wear? |
| 19:13.05 | Meorawr | No durability loss across two deaths so far. |
| 19:13.19 | Arrowmaster | yeah you take durability loss just from taking damage |
| 19:13.22 | foxlit | zenzelezz: durability decreases in combat. |
| 19:13.26 | foxlit | You don't even have to take damage |
| 19:13.27 | nevcairiel | foxlit: actually, it just doesnt care for integers |
| 19:13.36 | Jamash | level up to 10 it takes like twenty minutes |
| 19:13.39 | nevcairiel | all numbers are doubles :d |
| 19:13.45 | foxlit | Actually, it depends on what you compiled it with |
| 19:13.52 | foxlit | I have a long long Lua :) |
| 19:14.14 | nevcairiel | doesnt that kind of ruin any non-integer numbers |
| 19:14.54 | Jamash | who needs non-integer numbers |
| 19:15.02 | Jamash | FIXED POINT UBER ALLES |
| 19:15.04 | foxlit | yes, but you get the 64 bits of awesome. |
| 19:15.35 | nevcairiel | 52 bits is already pretty big numbers, imho |
| 19:15.53 | foxlit | unfortunately, gcj thinks otherwise. |
| 19:16.08 | Jamash | or go long double |
| 19:16.10 | foxlit | It'd be awesome if there was an arbitrary precision version |
| 19:16.46 | nevcairiel | arbitrary precision does not compute as a "dumb" type |
| 19:17.10 | Jamash | tan(x) |
| 19:17.14 | Jamash | OH SHI- |
| 19:17.41 | Grouch11 | im using the integer as a target amount in a for loop. with the value being obtained through ( #results / 12 ) and then adding an extra loop if ( #results % 12 ~= 0) |
| 19:17.55 | zenzelezz | do the bignum-type libraries (like GMP) support floating point? |
| 19:18.14 | Jamash | I don't know, do they? |
| 19:18.18 | foxlit | I ended up going with lbc, but I think that's integers only. |
| 19:18.48 | foxlit | stdin:1: (bc) exponent too large in raise |
| 19:18.51 | foxlit | nooooo :( |
| 19:18.58 | foxlit | [was only |
| 19:18.58 | foxlit | 32317006071311007300714876688669951960444102669715484032130345427524655138867890893197201411522913463688717960921898019494119559150490921095088152386448283120630877367300996091750197750389652106796057638384067568276792218642619756161838094338476170470581645852036305042887575891541065808607552399123930385521914333389668342420684974786564569494856176035326322058077805659331026192708460314150258592864177116725943603718461857357598351 |
| 19:18.58 | foxlit | 645904403697613233287231227125684710820209725157101726931323469678542580656697935045997268352998638215525166389437335543602135433229604645318478604952148193555853611059596230656] |
| 19:19.56 | Jamash | zenzelezz: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gmp+rational |
| 19:20.51 | foxlit | http://gmplib.org/manual/index.html#Top is more interesting |
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| 20:10.33 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.17 | Kraps | http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/04/13/brad-wardell-steam-taking-away-valve039s-game-development-efforts |
| 20:21.21 | Kraps | er |
| 20:21.26 | Kraps | http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/499 |
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| 20:22.50 | mikma | OMG! |
| 20:22.51 | mikma | OMG!! |
| 20:23.03 | mikma | i just bought Operation Flashpoint: Red River |
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| 20:47.38 | karl_w_w | i love it when you think you've fixed a bug and then you find out you havent 2 days later |
| 20:47.45 | karl_w_w | its the best feeling in the world |
| 20:47.55 | mikma | wobin + haste: http://imgur.com/gallery/NUUxj |
| 20:49.56 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/W96y6 that, freaking owns |
| 20:55.04 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/f4AlT.jpg what is this |
| 20:56.30 | mikma | ~google jim carrey harry potter |
| 20:56.50 | mikma | k, fine |
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| 21:00.15 | Jamash | karl_w_w: yeah, totally |
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| 21:04.14 | Jamash | woah, runed elementium rod gives 5 skillups |
| 21:05.06 | Jamash | aw fark, I was supposed to skill up to 520 *then* make the rod |
| 21:05.15 | starlon | yeah some engineering recipes give 5 too. |
| 21:05.57 | Kraps | i'm pretty sure someone in the know would be able to wrangle some more deductions on my taxes but really theres nothing i can see |
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| 21:06.31 | Jamash | woooooooooooooo 525 enchanting |
| 21:06.31 | p3lim | Hm, trying to find out what irc client I was using before |
| 21:06.37 | p3lim | can't remember the name |
| 21:09.32 | Kraps | "your Email Address" turbotax, i am disappoint |
| 21:09.53 | mikma | irssi |
| 21:10.03 | p3lim | not irssi, but quite alike it |
| 21:10.09 | mikma | ircII |
| 21:10.13 | p3lim | nah |
| 21:10.18 | mikma | BitchX |
| 21:10.49 | mikma | there is also the irc-client that accepts lua |
| 21:10.53 | mikma | i think haste uses ut |
| 21:11.06 | Kraps | why would someone name their program BitchX |
| 21:11.12 | mikma | ... |
| 21:11.14 | p3lim | ut? |
| 21:11.40 | mikma | http://www.bitchx.com/ |
| 21:11.42 | p3lim | now I remember, it was weechat |
| 21:11.55 | mikma | Written by "Trench" and "HappyCrappy", was a script for the IrcII client. It was converted to a program on its own right by panasync in 1996. |
| 21:12.05 | mikma | yes, weechat accepts lua scripts |
| 21:12.38 | p3lim | now I just need to get it working with cygwin |
| 21:13.17 | mikma | ... why go through all that hustle |
| 21:13.48 | mikma | just get yourself a shell from *x machine and use putty like the rest of us |
| 21:16.55 | p3lim | im used with cygwin, so its not really much hustle |
| 21:17.28 | mikma | thats like |
| 21:17.45 | mikma | installing a power exhaustpipe into a lada |
| 21:18.19 | p3lim | lol |
| 21:18.44 | p3lim | I use cygwin for a few other things anyways |
| 21:18.59 | mikma | oh you do, do you. |
| 21:19.11 | mikma | i just use fucking linux while at it |
| 21:19.18 | p3lim | all that I have to do is to compile weechat and run it |
| 21:19.23 | mikma | duh |
| 21:20.21 | karl_w_w | how is it a frame can be shown and visible yet i still cant see it on my screen? :P |
| 21:20.31 | Jamash | I use cygwin to ssh into my linux box |
| 21:20.40 | Jamash | karl_w_w: alpha? |
| 21:20.44 | Arrowmaster | i use my linux box |
| 21:20.46 | karl_w_w | nup |
| 21:20.53 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: I use your linux box too |
| 21:20.57 | karl_w_w | i think i just dont understand what the code is doing |
| 21:21.02 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: no you dont |
| 21:21.08 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: as far as you know |
| 21:21.34 | p3lim | karl_w_w: pastey? |
| 21:21.47 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: done a rootkit scan while booted from read-only media lately? |
| 21:22.26 | Jamash | woop gotta take a shower, bbl |
| 21:22.42 | Arrowmaster | no but i know my system isnt accessible from the outside |
| 21:22.47 | Kraps | why does filing state tax cost money on turbotax? |
| 21:23.04 | Jamash|shower | Arrowmaster: the calls are coming from inside the kernel |
| 21:23.08 | Dagmar | Because there's no law saying that has to be done free |
| 21:23.33 | Jamash|shower | H&R Block wanted to charge me $20 to file $4 in state taxes |
| 21:23.40 | karl_w_w | p3lim: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149164 |
| 21:23.46 | Kraps | sighs at teh bullshit |
| 21:23.47 | Jamash|shower | I'm mailing a paper check. |
| 21:23.55 | karl_w_w | the problem im having is the buttons it creates have an OnShow handler |
| 21:24.09 | Arrowmaster | we just use the online turbo tax to get the numbers then fill them out on paper forms and mail them in |
| 21:24.19 | karl_w_w | but onshow doesnt fire the first time you show the frame |
| 21:24.23 | p3lim | karl_w_w: which frame here don't you see? |
| 21:24.54 | Kraps | maybe i'll do that next year |
| 21:24.54 | karl_w_w | oh thats not realy the issue |
| 21:26.25 | mikma | jamash: ... putty |
| 21:29.19 | karl_w_w | oh |
| 21:29.29 | karl_w_w | its cos the frame gets shown before the buttons are created |
| 21:29.35 | karl_w_w | herpa derpa |
| 21:31.48 | karl_w_w | now I have to win a BG again to check it works always |
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| 21:38.21 | karl_w_w | is there an event that fires when dailies reset? :P |
| 21:38.36 | Kraps | also holy shit http://i.imgur.com/3w31V.png |
| 21:39.56 | zenzelezz | karl_w_w: not sure if there's a dedicated event, but I seem to recall there's a system message that gets printed to the chat frame |
| 21:40.13 | karl_w_w | good point |
| 21:41.07 | karl_w_w | Kraps the kid knows, he's just pissed they're going to Disney without him :P |
| 21:41.17 | Kraps | heh |
| 21:42.31 | p3lim | QUEST_LOG_UPDATE fires when the dailies are reset |
| 21:43.03 | p3lim | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/QUEST_LOG_UPDATE |
| 21:50.55 | Kraps | http://i.imgur.com/v0TV0.jpg |
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| 22:02.16 | foxlit | I'm disappointed |
| 22:02.32 | foxlit | "to win this game, run two instances of it and play the computer against itself" |
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| 22:13.33 | p3lim | hm |
| 22:13.35 | karl_w_w | ok im completely lost now, can anybody work out why in this addon: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/149165 Button_OnShow is called when you first show the frame (after logging in) but after going though a loading screen it isn't called until showing the frame, closing it and then showing it again? |
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| 22:46.35 | Nechckn | Wobin - "So, so angry!" |
| 22:46.59 | Nechckn | Thank you for sharing, will have to record that one for posterity! =) |
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| 23:28.25 | DWSR | Can you straight kite adds in P3 Nef on 10m? |
| 23:28.28 | DWSR | i.e. with a Frost DK? |
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| 23:41.11 | Dagmar | Hmm... Once I hit 70 I won't be able to queue for Outlands instances, right? |
| 23:41.16 | DWSR | correct. |
| 23:41.42 | Dagmar | Okay, cool. Just trying to be sure |
| 23:41.55 | Dagmar | Seems like at this range I'm encountering more than my share of idiots |
| 23:42.29 | Dagmar | Seems like most of the people I'm seeing at 69 took this whole page to heart http://www.cannotbetamed.com/category/lfd/ |
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| 23:49.17 | Corrodias | WoW provides opportunity for fascinating study in human nature |
| 23:49.20 | Corrodias | and by fascinating i mean depressing |
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| 23:51.00 | DWSR | House said it best. |
| 23:51.22 | DWSR | Doctors become doctors to treat illness. Treating patients causes them to be depressed. |
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