| 00:00.41 | ckknight | I liked the inner monologue with The Maxx |
| 00:00.57 | ckknight | although it was actually just him talking to himself |
| 00:01.20 | KarlKFI|borked | Green Arrow is a more current times hero ironically using bow and arrow with high tech tips. In his first episode i think someone asks what took him so long and he replies "You try changing in a hybrid!" |
| 00:02.23 | alestane | And there's apparently a really celebrated short-run series that pairs the Green Arrow up with the Green Lantern and lets them bounce off each other for a while. |
| 00:03.18 | KarlKFI|borked | is Green Lantern is a light hearted batman, then Spectre must be the darker side. |
| 00:03.51 | KarlKFI|borked | except he doesn't use gadgets so much as does whatever he wants with magicy ghostiness. |
| 00:04.24 | KarlKFI|borked | plus batman respects the law, Spectre not so much |
| 00:08.31 | Mr_Rabies | at his best, batman doesn't respect the law |
| 00:09.48 | Mr_Rabies | the really good batman stories have him being a vigilante and doing things the police could never do |
| 00:10.47 | Mr_Rabies | of course there's always the cheesy "ties them up with the bat-hook cable from a street light" thing but that's not batman at his best |
| 00:12.13 | Kraps | more like the rule of law |
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| 00:24.49 | Cairenn | ~timriker |
| 00:24.49 | purl | timriker is, like, a noob who does c/p |
| 00:25.01 | Cairenn | grumps at purl |
| 00:25.07 | Cairenn | purl, who is timriker? |
| 00:25.07 | purl | rumour has it, timriker is a noob who does c/p |
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| 00:25.15 | Cairenn | purl, who is tim riker? |
| 00:25.16 | purl | Cairenn: I think you lost me on that one |
| 00:25.21 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.16 | Cairenn | purl, who is your owner? |
| 00:26.16 | purl | it has been said that your owner is me |
| 00:26.34 | Cairenn | why can I never remember the command to get tim's info? |
| 00:27.21 | alestane | ~owner |
| 00:27.21 | purl | TimRiker is my owner |
| 00:27.36 | kd3 | rikers.org? |
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| 00:35.16 | Mr_Rabies | ~botinfo |
| 00:35.26 | Mr_Rabies | ~purl |
| 00:35.26 | purl | it has been said that purl is a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 00:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | ~rikers |
| 00:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | ~riker |
| 00:35.40 | Mr_Rabies | i give up |
| 00:35.41 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 00:36.40 | Cairenn | purl, who owns you? |
| 00:36.41 | purl | TimRiker does |
| 00:36.50 | Cairenn | swats purl |
| 00:36.56 | Cairenn | ~TimRiker |
| 00:36.56 | purl | i guess timriker is a noob who does c/p |
| 00:38.31 | Cairenn | bets her head on her desk and gives up |
| 00:38.39 | Cairenn | s/bets/beats/ |
| 00:39.50 | Wobin | airtonix: David Tennent, the 10th Doctor, is having a child with Georgia Moffett, the daughter of the actor who played the 5th Doctor, but plays the cloned daughter of 10th Doctor in an episode. |
| 00:40.08 | Wobin | or as one person put it: "So, the joke is complete, as it is the Doctor's daughter. And his granddaughter. Also, the Other Doctor's granddaughter. ALSO also the Other Doctor's daughter, since the Other Doctor is the same Doctor as the Doctor who just had a daughter. Also the Doctor's daughter's younger sister, and therefore the Doctor's Other Daughter (and, thus, the Other Doctor's Other Daughter). Thus, finally, the Doctors' daughters." |
| 00:40.42 | kd3 | thinks of the buffalo joke sentence trying to parse that |
| 00:42.11 | Kraps | "MENTAL CASE - Dreamed within a dream" |
| 00:42.50 | Mr_Rabies | ~info |
| 00:42.58 | Mr_Rabies | ~help |
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| 01:20.33 | Thunder_Child | anyone know how i can send sounds to both my speakers and through hdmi? |
| 01:33.15 | Dagmar | Short answer: Yes. |
| 01:33.28 | Dagmar | Long answer: Read the ALSA docs... Pray for a swift death. |
| 01:33.49 | Dagmar | You'll need to mux it like you'd upmix to send 2 channels to five speakers. |
| 01:33.59 | Dagmar | The docs are not particularly amusing on that subject. |
| 01:34.29 | kd3 | winces |
| 01:35.19 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: so there is no nice software that will do it for me? |
| 01:36.21 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 01:36.42 | Dagmar | ...but if you're diligent with Google you can probably find more than a few examples of upmixing, as well as someone possibly already doign what you're trying |
| 01:41.22 | Dagmar | This, for example, may help http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=59877 |
| 01:44.20 | Thunder_Child | i'm looking at http://software.muzychenko.net/eng/vac.htm atm |
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| 01:51.48 | Hjalte | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/167937/41-preview-dungeon-finder-call-to-arms |
| 01:51.50 | Hjalte | Muhaha |
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| 01:53.25 | Kraps | OMG HJALTE |
| 01:54.09 | Thunder_Child | that will beinteresting to see which is on tip, healers or tanks |
| 01:54.14 | Thunder_Child | s/tip/top/ |
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| 01:54.21 | Thunder_Child | be interesting* |
| 01:54.29 | Hjalte | I would think tanks far most of the time |
| 01:54.35 | Wobin | oh god |
| 01:54.40 | Wobin | that will be -terrible- |
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| 01:57.27 | Kraps | thats going to fail like a US automaker |
| 01:57.42 | Wobin | because undergeared tanks will choose that and grief the party |
| 01:57.51 | Kraps | ^ |
| 01:57.57 | Wobin | and pvp plate wearers will have a field day trying |
| 01:59.05 | alestane | There's also the possibility that some people who otherwise wouldn't will actually learn how to tank. |
| 01:59.26 | Wobin | hahaha |
| 01:59.27 | Wobin | hahahah |
| 01:59.29 | Wobin | ahahahahahahaha |
| 01:59.36 | alestane | Yes, I know it sounds hilarious. |
| 02:00.09 | Kraps|ipod | Pug quality, such as it is, will decrease tenfold |
| 02:00.18 | alestane | I think it would be stronger if it also applied to regular dungeons, at least the ones considered suitable for 85s. |
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| 02:01.15 | alestane | Because the gods know, any PUG where someone dies is a failed PUG. |
| 02:01.17 | kd3 | wow |
| 02:01.20 | Hjalte | It will cause some of the legitimate tanks do do more pugs though. |
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| 02:01.49 | kd3 | yah, I'm not sure how much I like that |
| 02:02.20 | Wobin | alestane: I'll give it a go |
| 02:02.23 | Wobin | as a healer |
| 02:02.31 | Wobin | but I predict an influx of shitty shitty tanks |
| 02:02.45 | Wobin | which will make me not want to play my healer, no matter what the 'rewards' |
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| 02:03.17 | Wobin | because any PUG where the tank sucks -is- a failed PUG |
| 02:03.22 | Wobin | just like any PUG where the healer sucks is a failed PUG |
| 02:03.43 | Wobin | just like any PUG where the dps sucks is a failed PUG |
| 02:03.49 | alestane | And my expectation is that the tanks who suck for more than one run and can't figure out how to improve will quit queueing for it. |
| 02:03.57 | Wobin | however, it's easier to carry faildps than it is a tank |
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| 02:04.03 | alestane | The DPS has two backups. |
| 02:04.07 | Kraps|ipod | OMG TANKS GET SPECIAL MOUNTS AHHHHH |
| 02:04.17 | alestane | The tank and healer have very little wiggle room. |
| 02:04.28 | alestane | Which is part of what I find exciting about tanking. |
| 02:04.49 | Wobin | you just like S&M =P |
| 02:04.59 | alestane | You don't need meters to know if you're doing your job...you know you're failing at your job because YOU SEE DEAD PEOPLE. |
| 02:05.32 | alestane | That said, what I like about any of the jobs is learning to do better. |
| 02:05.38 | karl_w_w | its basically a dumb idea |
| 02:05.53 | karl_w_w | dont know why blizzard spends time on these dumb ideas |
| 02:06.09 | Thunder_Child | because it's better than doing nothing |
| 02:06.13 | alestane | No, actually. It attempts to incentivize behavior that would remedy a bad situation. |
| 02:06.34 | karl_w_w | if the 40 minute queues arent enough encouragement, this sort of thing isnt going to help |
| 02:06.42 | Thunder_Child | and even if it turns out bad, they will have learned more than doing nothing at all |
| 02:07.11 | alestane | It's easy for us to say, "Derp derp Blizz morons didn't think this thru" but the simple fact is that any system with this many people in it is not simple to predict. |
| 02:07.16 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: haha, you think they'll actually -learn-? |
| 02:07.16 | karl_w_w | except that blizzard usually dont learn from their mistakes |
| 02:07.32 | alestane | Wow, cynical much? |
| 02:07.44 | karl_w_w | not cynical, observant |
| 02:07.51 | Wobin | ^ |
| 02:08.22 | Wobin | I'm quite happy queuing for 30min as a dps |
| 02:08.27 | Wobin | because it means I don't want to tank |
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| 02:08.40 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 02:08.53 | Wobin | I'm quite capable of queueing as a tank if I want to tank |
| 02:09.11 | alestane | If you wanted them to learn a single overarching lesson from everything they've done, it would be that finding a new line of work is far less hassle than trying to please 12 million people most of the time. |
| 02:10.04 | karl_w_w | Bibi: what's the deal with this thread http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/881477-I-admit-im-using-3rd-party-software?p=10976044 |
| 02:10.30 | karl_w_w | many of the posts have been moderated, yet the thread hasnt been deleted when the thread itself breaks one of the big rules |
| 02:12.24 | mckenziemc | (7:07:46 PM) karl_w_w: not cynical, observant |
| 02:12.24 | mckenziemc | ^ perhaps you don't see everything they see |
| 02:12.57 | Wobin | Tanking PUGS http://images.nextnewnetworks.com/4339_blog.jpg |
| 02:13.15 | karl_w_w | clearly not, because they see something other than the same mistakes repeated |
| 02:13.38 | mckenziemc | and if that's correct? |
| 02:14.27 | karl_w_w | I'm going to assume that's a hypothetical question about a different game |
| 02:14.44 | mckenziemc | it's not |
| 02:14.46 | airtonix | Argument of Righteous Fury : "you don't get someone to do your job at work and expect to get paid" << Actually I do. It's called delegation. |
| 02:14.52 | Wobin | ps, what's wrong with cynicism? |
| 02:17.01 | karl_w_w | I blame ghostcrawler personally |
| 02:18.25 | karl_w_w | he joined the team at the start of wotlk, and broke wow :P |
| 02:19.58 | airtonix | how does that make you feel? |
| 02:20.09 | karl_w_w | like an airtonix bit me |
| 02:20.21 | airtonix | i have some ointment for that |
| 02:20.23 | Kraps|ipod | Y so melodrama |
| 02:20.37 | airtonix | For the benefit of your ipod |
| 02:20.44 | karl_w_w | pref. marshmelodrama |
| 02:20.48 | airtonix | otherwise you'd feel it was a waste of money |
| 02:21.06 | mckenziemc | mmm marshmellows |
| 02:21.30 | Cairenn | marshmellows - are those calm marshmallows? |
| 02:21.32 | karl_w_w | marshmallows* |
| 02:22.15 | mckenziemc | oh ty |
| 02:23.35 | mckenziemc | http://www.wowhead.com/item=42986#comments:id=368896 |
| 02:24.49 | karl_w_w | http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/painkiller |
| 02:25.00 | karl_w_w | $4 sale |
| 02:26.37 | alestane | They're laid-back, Cairenn, not like those caffeinated marshmallows. |
| 02:26.44 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 02:27.26 | karl_w_w | mckenziemc you should see some of the links people try to make in wowhead comments |
| 02:28.18 | karl_w_w | also, why is seemingly every piece of armour in the game on the see also tab |
| 02:28.37 | mckenziemc | idk, but i saw that too >.> |
| 02:30.11 | mckenziemc | "@gmail.cmo" : / |
| 02:30.22 | mckenziemc | i hate when i do that |
| 02:32.45 | karl_w_w | yeah, gmail is so fail :P |
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| 02:48.54 | mckenziemc | "Threat Detected! I:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe" : / |
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| 02:52.00 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 02:52.34 | airtonix | ATTACK!!!!1onepony |
| 02:53.05 | karl_w_w | omg a pony |
| 02:53.13 | karl_w_w | can we keep him? |
| 02:53.33 | airtonix | http://media.djangopony.com/img/magic-pony-django-wallpaper.png |
| 02:53.40 | airtonix | lulz |
| 02:53.40 | mckenziemc | euthanizes karl_w_w |
| 02:55.19 | Thunder_Child | so pepsico owns taco bell and pizza hut....this says a lot about them. |
| 02:55.33 | Thunder_Child | s/says/explains/ |
| 02:56.37 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuY5sTe0YF8 |
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| 03:02.00 | airtonix | it does? |
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| 03:05.12 | Thunder_Child | yes, it does |
| 03:08.27 | airtonix | ok, but I am unfamiliar with this "pepsico" |
| 03:09.14 | mckenziemc | that's your problem |
| 03:11.46 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki pepsico |
| 03:13.05 | airtonix | can you make rubber in minecraft? |
| 03:13.15 | kd3 | maybe in some mod |
| 03:14.30 | airtonix | kd3: can you make minecarts go up and down hills or vertical shafts? |
| 03:15.07 | kd3 | up hills? sure, using boosting. down hills? gravity. down vertical shafts? my minecart pez dispenser uses such a thing to hold them |
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| 03:18.17 | mckenziemc | i use vertical shafts for holding airtonix |
| 03:18.57 | airtonix | mckenziemc: i lost interest |
| 03:19.10 | Wobin | you can hold airtonix with vertical shafts? |
| 03:19.59 | mckenziemc | yes they make quite good storage |
| 03:20.06 | karl_w_w | airtonix likes all his shafts vertical |
| 03:21.35 | kd3 | though someone just suggested to jeb (one of the minecraft coders) that if we make minecraft rails using gold instead of iron (yay, a use for gold), carts get boosted without resorting to glitches |
| 03:21.38 | kd3 | which would be nice |
| 03:21.58 | Iriel | That's been an approach of a number of server mods |
| 03:22.01 | Iriel | (use gold for boosting) |
| 03:22.11 | Iriel | though not in quite the same way, they used gold blocks under the tracks |
| 03:22.37 | Kraps|ipod | Speed hacker in assassins creed, nice |
| 03:22.42 | karl_w_w | gold is too soft to use as rails |
| 03:22.59 | karl_w_w | that would be crazy |
| 03:23.27 | airtonix | how does gold boost ? |
| 03:23.38 | kd3 | it doesn't right now |
| 03:23.50 | Iriel | I agree with karl_w_w's comment, in the normal spirit of MC |
| 03:23.55 | Iriel | though maybe some kind of alloy? |
| 03:24.08 | Iriel | throw a bit of redstone in there for its magic touch |
| 03:24.19 | airtonix | explain |
| 03:26.00 | airtonix | i hope to refrain from playing minecraft by living enough of the experience through you guys |
| 03:26.14 | airtonix | so far the experiment is a success |
| 03:27.10 | Kraps|ipod | Lol airtonix |
| 03:27.33 | Iriel | Well, the "boosting problem", if the server decides to acknowledge it, is to come up with some indicator to the minecart that it's supposed to pick up speed |
| 03:28.04 | airtonix | why not just add 45 degree angles? |
| 03:28.09 | Iriel | Many traditional materials in game are out because they'd be too likely to "accidently" be around a track, or because it just makes NO sense |
| 03:28.31 | Iriel | Well, boosting is required to propel carts uphill or over long linear distances |
| 03:28.40 | Iriel | (You can already do 45 degree angles) |
| 03:28.51 | airtonix | emulations of 45 degree angles |
| 03:29.27 | Iriel | Hm, do you mean 45 degree angles along a flat surface? |
| 03:29.29 | Kraps|ipod | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/services/wow-remote/#guild-chat |
| 03:30.14 | kd3 | right turn, left turn, right turn, left turn, decent approximation |
| 03:30.28 | Iriel | Ah, right, that's a moderate hack but works pretty well in mincraftality |
| 03:30.33 | Iriel | (MC version of reality) |
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| 03:52.51 | Kraps | the wow armory app is pretty cool |
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| 04:02.14 | Thunder_Child | anyone know why i would be getting gaming lag over an hdmi connection? |
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| 04:15.29 | airtonix | because the cable can't work out why you would use a hdmi cable to connect your mouse to your computer |
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| 04:16.13 | Kraps | there are people today named Aphrodite? |
| 04:19.35 | Ackis | eh I haven't done a cast sequence macro in forever... /castsequence Vampiric Touch;Shadow Word: Pain <-- right/wrong? |
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| 04:21.55 | Cide | god Ackis I will kill you |
| 04:22.03 | Ackis | haha |
| 04:22.21 | airtonix | injects Cide with blue dye |
| 04:23.00 | Ackis | Cide: I want it for obnoxious fiends in atramedes |
| 04:23.23 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2568337 <- enough QQ for blizzard to say "yeah ok, no bad idea"? |
| 04:24.33 | mckenziemc | probably not |
| 04:24.49 | karl_w_w | so get posting slacker! :P |
| 04:25.00 | mckenziemc | there are reasons successful games aren't designed around what the customers _think_ they want |
| 04:25.24 | mckenziemc | or don't want |
| 04:26.23 | karl_w_w | except that this is designed for those few dps who QQed because they want shorter queues |
| 04:26.57 | Kraps | mckenziemc: blizzard has made mistakes you know |
| 04:27.06 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 04:27.12 | karl_w_w | and fucks over people who knew what they wanted and put in days and weeks and months of grinding to get it |
| 04:27.13 | mckenziemc | i didn't say they haven't |
| 04:27.23 | mckenziemc | or thought they knew what they wanted |
| 04:27.50 | karl_w_w | that makes no sense |
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| 04:28.12 | mckenziemc | it doesn't make any less sense than your statement |
| 04:28.25 | karl_w_w | if you think you want something, and you enjoy it when you have it, who's to say they were wrong to want it? |
| 04:28.32 | Kraps | [12:27:15]karl_w_wand fucks over people who knew what they wanted and put in days and weeks and months of grinding to get it <--- hmm? |
| 04:28.39 | Kraps | the mounts? |
| 04:28.44 | karl_w_w | ya |
| 04:29.04 | mckenziemc | ah, i didn't realize what you meant, but i still don't agree with you for other reason |
| 04:29.05 | mckenziemc | s |
| 04:29.38 | karl_w_w | hm? |
| 04:30.12 | mckenziemc | that you were referring to the people getting mounts the normal way |
| 04:31.43 | karl_w_w | i mean, im interested in other reasons :P |
| 04:32.31 | mckenziemc | Kraps: but they'd be making a bigger mistake if they focused more on giving customers what they consciously ask for |
| 04:33.47 | karl_w_w | that's all they ever do though |
| 04:33.57 | mckenziemc | oh really |
| 04:34.15 | mckenziemc | as i said before, you don't see everything they see |
| 04:34.27 | mckenziemc | you only see the outside, and that's a big potential for bias |
| 04:34.58 | karl_w_w | well not all they ever do, but most of the stuff they do is a result of some QQ or another, whether there is an immediate link or not |
| 04:35.11 | mckenziemc | video game design is a very delicate matter, you can't approach it the same ways you'd approach real world problems, either |
| 04:35.29 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: correlation does not indicate causation |
| 04:35.44 | karl_w_w | so it's just a wonderful coincidence |
| 04:35.57 | mckenziemc | no, it's a predictable bias |
| 04:37.11 | mckenziemc | you seem to think it goes like this: people QQ, blizz reads it, blizz decides to do something about it, when many times it could be: fundamental problem exists, blizz thinks about it, at the same time people QQ, blizz considers both their own concerns and the public opinion (to a degree) and decides what to do |
| 04:38.24 | mckenziemc | from what i've seen (which may be subject to personal bias, i'll admit) you either complain that blizz did something no one asked for, or you complain that they're listening to QQerrs |
| 04:38.26 | mckenziemc | ers* |
| 04:39.29 | karl_w_w | a lot of the time that could be true for sure |
| 04:39.55 | karl_w_w | but a lot of other times blizzard have proposed or just done something and not realised all the consequences |
| 04:40.03 | mckenziemc | which happens |
| 04:40.08 | karl_w_w | then people go QQ and they say "oh shit yeah" |
| 04:40.11 | mckenziemc | hence the value of an iterative process |
| 04:40.14 | mckenziemc | not quite |
| 04:40.19 | mckenziemc | it's not the QQ that does it |
| 04:40.23 | mckenziemc | see? bias |
| 04:40.39 | mckenziemc | they see it doesn't work, they don't generally need to see people cry about it first |
| 04:41.09 | karl_w_w | but in cases like this, the crying is what they are trying to fix |
| 04:41.35 | Kraps | why is there no kosher for passover food in this house |
| 04:41.36 | mckenziemc | if you think mistakes should be avoided whenever possible, then you won't be able to see the value of the iterative process |
| 04:41.37 | karl_w_w | so if they just create more crying than their was, then it's clearly a fail :P |
| 04:41.48 | mckenziemc | no, it's the fundamental issue they're trying to fix |
| 04:41.59 | mckenziemc | again, you're inferring causation from correlation |
| 04:42.00 | karl_w_w | there is no fundamental issue |
| 04:42.06 | mckenziemc | uh |
| 04:42.15 | mckenziemc | what do you think the people are crying about then? |
| 04:42.21 | karl_w_w | tank queues are shorter because there are less tanks |
| 04:42.30 | karl_w_w | that's not some sort of problem, that's simple maths |
| 04:42.40 | karl_w_w | people are crying because they want shorter dps queues |
| 04:42.44 | mckenziemc | you're providing anecdotal counterevidence |
| 04:42.49 | Dagmar | I tanked two this week. |
| 04:42.50 | mckenziemc | i'm talking about general cases |
| 04:42.56 | Dagmar | It's zero wait time |
| 04:42.59 | karl_w_w | they need to fix the imbalance of classes, not the queuing system |
| 04:43.13 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: I think that will require the wholesale murder of players |
| 04:43.34 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: what do you think the DK class was an attempt to do? |
| 04:43.40 | Dagmar | One HUGE difference that springs to mind is communication |
| 04:43.46 | mckenziemc | it didn't work, so they're using an iterative process and trying something else |
| 04:44.23 | Dagmar | DDO was actually pretty damn hard when it first came out, but we kicked the crap out of everything by just using voice-chat all the time. It was practically mandatory |
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| 04:44.32 | mckenziemc | hehe |
| 04:44.40 | airtonix | karl_w_w: tanking is a art |
| 04:44.41 | Dagmar | You might as well be asking for dirty pictures of someone's mom to get them to use the built-in voice chat in WoW, and it's just not that bad |
| 04:44.57 | Dagmar | They REFUSE to talk to each other, and so they die |
| 04:45.32 | Dagmar | they die in droves and get pissed off and then blame the tank for "not holding aggro" and people get stressed out and quit playing tanks |
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| 04:45.46 | karl_w_w | maybe so airtonix, but that shouldn't be fixed by dungeon queues |
| 04:46.00 | Dagmar | So now we have this nice crop of tanks who are still tanking because they're just assholes who don't care and think it's a speed-run EQ-style where the tank runs the show and everyone else is a silent cheerleader |
| 04:46.00 | karl_w_w | that should be fixed by making dpsing harder or something |
| 04:46.29 | airtonix | Dagmar: Only trolls can play tanks with such social resilience |
| 04:47.00 | mckenziemc | good point dagmar/airtonix |
| 04:48.00 | Dagmar | I got just two people to turn on their voice chat this week, typed 110 wpm giving out marching orders, and had people getting irked that I was just doing onesies |
| 04:48.46 | Dagmar | The person with voice chat on couldn't be killed. |
| 04:48.59 | Dagmar | If they spoke up that I missed a mob, I was on it like white on rice |
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| 04:49.43 | Dagmar | People are going to start having to use voice chat in pugs and get over the fact that they sound like a nine-year old |
| 04:49.51 | Dagmar | ...which is actually not so bad. |
| 04:49.52 | mckenziemc | haha |
| 04:50.00 | Dagmar | One fo the best party leaders I knew in DDO was a nine-year old |
| 04:50.16 | Dagmar | It was *messed up* hearing a little kid rattle off technical details about D20 combat |
| 04:50.35 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 04:50.49 | Dagmar | Nah it gave me hope for the species |
| 04:50.57 | Xyphoid | DDO dungeons were great |
| 04:51.11 | Dagmar | Well, until you'd done them a few times |
| 04:51.17 | Xyphoid | sure, but there were 182377 of them |
| 04:51.25 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: why so jumpy |
| 04:51.34 | Dagmar | Then you're like "Hey three kobolds are going to 'surprise' us around that corner" |
| 04:52.06 | Dagmar | ...although that did make playing the Wizard class a hell of a lot easier |
| 04:52.11 | Xyphoid | no running heroic gundrak for the 120th time |
| 04:52.41 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: massive input lag in games with my new monitor |
| 04:52.48 | Thunder_Child | trying to figure out why |
| 04:53.01 | Dagmar | it's a bit more fun now that it's mana based, but it's not really a D&D wizard anymore, and I don't really respect it as much |
| 04:53.07 | Thunder_Child | i tracked it down to my mouse |
| 04:53.26 | airtonix | i was right |
| 04:53.39 | airtonix | Kneel before me mortal! |
| 04:53.55 | karl_w_w | it's a trap |
| 04:54.02 | karl_w_w | dont open your mouth |
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| 04:54.11 | airtonix | You do not know the power of the Dark Side. |
| 04:54.57 | Dagmar | I know the power of one Wall of Fire and two beefy guys with shields raised in a doorway. |
| 04:55.03 | Dagmar | All else pales. |
| 04:56.36 | karl_w_w | that's the most gay thing i've heard today Dagmar |
| 04:57.05 | Dagmar | You've never watched a small horde of very stupid monsters all die without landing a blow on anyone then. |
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| 05:03.37 | airtonix | i'm having the last word |
| 05:05.44 | Corrodias | no me |
| 05:05.55 | mckenziemc | what |
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| 05:10.03 | karl_w_w | yeah but I already had the last rolo |
| 05:10.08 | karl_w_w | so I win |
| 05:10.14 | mckenziemc | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 05:10.18 | mckenziemc | dies |
| 05:10.42 | bluspacecow | hai2u |
| 05:12.13 | Kraps | lies |
| 05:12.26 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DHseWNr7iKk |
| 05:15.35 | Kraps | also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugriWSmRxcM&feature=player_embedded |
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| 05:44.06 | karl_w_w | This looks like mpeg. Do you want to index it? |
| 05:56.13 | ccox | why is it that hunters in particular have to pull, and can't wait for the tank to get their cooldowns ready or diseases dispelled? |
| 05:56.50 | ccox | are all hunters on speed or aderall? |
| 05:57.27 | Dagmar | Most of them generally don't know the tank is actually waiting for a cooldown to come back because the tanks never really mention it |
| 05:57.38 | karl_w_w | because half the time tanks get pissy when CCers arent pulling fast enough |
| 05:58.12 | Dagmar | This umm... Flight of the Navigator demo Mozilla has is crazy |
| 05:58.34 | Dagmar | WebGL is some crazy |
| 05:59.03 | mckenziemc | "You need permission to perform this action" "You require permission from Mark-PC\Mark to make changes to this folder" ........... |
| 06:03.12 | mckenziemc | ccox: intentionally or are they just having the Tab issue |
| 06:03.43 | ccox | intentionally, twice tonight I've had to kick huntards because they kept making bad pulls when I (the tank) wasn't ready |
| 06:03.53 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 06:04.17 | karl_w_w | dont think you had to |
| 06:04.24 | ccox | and that was after telling them that I was waiting for cooldowns and didn't appreciate the pulls |
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| 06:13.17 | Fisker | slaps karl_w_w around a bit with a large trout |
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| 06:17.44 | Torhal | stuffs Fisker into several sardine cans and then promptly goes to bed. |
| 06:18.08 | karl_w_w | man ive lost my mind |
| 06:18.17 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 06:18.30 | karl_w_w | what is the animal that has spots like a leopard but is white instead of yellow? :D |
| 06:19.12 | Fisker | Blizzard is on thin ice |
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| 06:19.36 | zenzio | karl_w_w: snow leopard? |
| 06:19.41 | Dagmar | What, you mean like a snow leopard? |
| 06:21.06 | Dagmar | So check for a Chrome update. |
| 06:21.30 | karl_w_w | spose |
| 06:21.37 | zenzio | hm, GNOME 3 relesaed... I bet that's also just to beat DNF |
| 06:22.00 | Fisker | i'm sick karl_w_w |
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| 06:25.04 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 06:27.05 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:27.33 | airtonix | i'm in the future |
| 06:27.52 | karl_w_w | they should just remove dungeon finder |
| 06:27.53 | airtonix | zenzio: what is dnf? |
| 06:28.04 | zenzio | Duke Nukem Forever |
| 06:28.09 | Fisker | do you remember airtonix ? |
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| 06:28.30 | airtonix | i probably do but because i'm now in the past i haven't remembered it yet |
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| 06:32.08 | Torhal | Wow. Call to Arms is so broken-thinking it's not even retarded. |
| 06:34.25 | Fisker | fiiiiiiiiiiire |
| 06:35.00 | Fisker | ^^ Torhal |
| 06:35.03 | Fisker | people are gonna be mad |
| 06:36.10 | Torhal | Tanks and healers were in short supply YEARS before the LFD system. This will only serve to give them free "rare" mounts, best case. Worst case, people who have no business rolling either roll will do so just for the free shit and fail repeatedly. |
| 06:36.27 | Torhal | s/roll /role / |
| 06:38.14 | Fisker | it's seriously messed up now though |
| 06:38.42 | airtonix | Torhal: i wouldn't get upset over it |
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| 06:39.01 | Torhal | I'm not upset - I'm just boggled that they think this will solve anything. |
| 06:39.12 | Torhal | Hence the "broken-thinking" |
| 06:39.12 | airtonix | Nor would i become boggled |
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| 06:39.18 | Fisker | But that's what they get for marginalizing the dungeons |
| 06:39.19 | Fisker | bam |
| 06:39.27 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:39.35 | airtonix | Torhal: my solution has worked for me nicely |
| 06:39.47 | Torhal | Don't queue? |
| 06:39.51 | bluspacecow | lolz i has minecraft and wow up at the same time :) |
| 06:39.51 | airtonix | no |
| 06:39.56 | bluspacecow | minecraft music rules |
| 06:40.46 | airtonix | Torhal: Roughly 16months ago, I began the most ambitious plan for world domination |
| 06:41.03 | airtonix | as a requirement i had to stop playing wow |
| 06:41.03 | karl_w_w | <Fisker> it's seriously messed up now though <- how so? |
| 06:41.55 | Fisker | instead of only 10 minute queues they're around 40 minutes now |
| 06:43.10 | mckenziemc | well |
| 06:43.11 | Shirik|Gh | it's only like 3 minutes for me |
| 06:43.26 | Torhal | airtonix: You should rethink your strategy. Clearly, trolling an IRC channel is getting you nowhere in your grand scheme. |
| 06:43.38 | Fisker | stop being a healer then Shirik|Gh |
| 06:43.39 | Torhal | Now - bed. |
| 06:43.51 | Shirik|Gh | not my fault you don't want to play a class that requires skill Fisker |
| 06:43.54 | mckenziemc | on the plus side, if it makes tank/healer quality lower, less dps will queue in proportion, hence the queue times will drop! :O |
| 06:44.03 | karl_w_w | whats wrong with 40 minute queues? |
| 06:44.56 | mckenziemc | that should be "some dps will stop queing at all" |
| 06:45.02 | mckenziemc | failed troll failed :( |
| 06:45.05 | karl_w_w | there are many solutions if you dont like 40 minute queues, pug trade, go with your guild, queue as a tank, gear up some other way, do something else while you're queued |
| 06:45.10 | Shirik|Gh | we're going to have fun |
| 06:45.11 | karl_w_w | it's not rocket surgery |
| 06:45.12 | Shirik|Gh | with science |
| 06:45.27 | airtonix | your science or mine? |
| 06:45.39 | karl_w_w | all science is fun! |
| 06:45.40 | airtonix | snaps on the latex gloves |
| 06:46.07 | Fisker | exactly Ben_Dover |
| 06:46.15 | airtonix | you have the mind of a gutter rat |
| 06:46.17 | Fisker | so why do we need healers/tanks getting free epix? |
| 06:46.23 | Ben_Dover | they dont |
| 06:46.29 | Shirik|Gh | because I like free epix |
| 06:46.44 | Shirik|Gh | so can I ask what we're actually talking about? |
| 06:46.52 | Shirik|Gh | because I'm genuinely curious now |
| 06:46.54 | karl_w_w | how crappy an idea it is |
| 06:46.55 | airtonix | no |
| 06:47.13 | Shirik|Gh | what is |
| 06:47.16 | karl_w_w | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2568337 |
| 06:47.23 | Fisker | Blizzard is giving out free trade materials, pets and mounts to roles that are underrepresented in the heroics Shirik|Gh |
| 06:47.32 | airtonix | haha |
| 06:47.33 | Fisker | so they get moar people to queue |
| 06:47.41 | Fisker | thus making the queue smaller for dps |
| 06:47.42 | Shirik|Gh | ahahahaha |
| 06:47.42 | airtonix | wow is dying |
| 06:47.47 | Shirik|Gh | wow that is totally backwards |
| 06:47.48 | Fisker | and QQ on the forums higher for DPS |
| 06:47.57 | Shirik|Gh | we get to run more in a day |
| 06:48.05 | Shirik|Gh | and so we get more rewards |
| 06:48.29 | mckenziemc | theoretically the dps will get to run more in a day too though |
| 06:48.36 | mckenziemc | not proportionally ofc |
| 06:48.58 | airtonix | i'd just atke all tanks and healers to increase the qq |
| 06:49.05 | karl_w_w | next it will be at the end of each dungeon, ghostcrawler himself will appear and ask the tank to name any item in the game he wants |
| 06:49.33 | Fisker | they simply shouldn't have gone away from the WotLK dungeons |
| 06:49.35 | airtonix | "The healers shoulders" |
| 06:49.36 | Fisker | they worked pretty fine |
| 06:49.47 | karl_w_w | he might get a bit busy actually, would have to be GC bots |
| 06:49.53 | karl_w_w | then GC would get banned |
| 06:50.07 | karl_w_w | and wow would be able to start the recovery process! |
| 06:50.13 | karl_w_w | ok no, i like where this is going |
| 06:53.00 | mckenziemc | somebody's mad |
| 06:53.37 | karl_w_w | my mum was looking at a job search site and saw this job I apparently might be interested in, with the following requirement: "Must be able to write and speak Bahasa, Mandarin as well as English." |
| 06:53.49 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 06:53.51 | airtonix | so not for you |
| 06:53.59 | karl_w_w | no I don't think so :P |
| 06:54.02 | airtonix | also send mother to counselling |
| 06:54.18 | airtonix | or a nursing home |
| 06:54.30 | mckenziemc | there's always the morgue |
| 06:54.41 | airtonix | mustn't implicate yourself |
| 06:54.54 | karl_w_w | any one of you could be FBI |
| 06:55.10 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 06:55.12 | mckenziemc | ~irc |
| 06:55.12 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 06:55.12 | airtonix | only the retarded act on motivation |
| 06:57.42 | karl_w_w | Fisker, I'll give you a cookie if you bark like a poodle. |
| 06:58.48 | airtonix | poodles bark? |
| 07:00.04 | karl_w_w | hell yes |
| 07:00.15 | airtonix | oh |
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| 07:00.28 | airtonix | because a dingo does not |
| 07:01.09 | karl_w_w | poodles are crazy |
| 07:02.05 | airtonix | pretty much like their owners |
| 07:02.20 | karl_w_w | exactly |
| 07:02.38 | airtonix | i mean, what sane person submits a living sentient creature to topiary |
| 07:02.46 | karl_w_w | youtube is currently making my firefox hang for minutes at a time |
| 07:03.14 | airtonix | oh right, hipsters are walking topiary galleries |
| 07:04.46 | karl_w_w | ah, killing plugin-container |
| 07:04.49 | karl_w_w | smart plan |
| 07:06.52 | haste | I have a cron, which kills the plug-in container every 12 hours |
| 07:07.05 | airtonix | share |
| 07:07.19 | haste | poke me later today |
| 07:07.34 | bluspacecow | *pokes haste* |
| 07:07.37 | haste | ssh isn't up and running at home :V |
| 07:07.49 | airtonix | comply |
| 07:19.18 | mckenziemc1 | imply |
| 07:24.44 | haste | pffft |
| 07:26.43 | haste | kill $(ps aux | grep '[p]lugin-container' | awk '{print $2}') |
| 07:26.49 | haste | should work |
| 07:27.27 | haste | could probably drop the a in ps, I have this nasty habit of always using doing aux :( |
| 07:27.49 | zenzio | haste: does the plugin container get restarted automatically after you kill it? |
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| 07:28.10 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:28.38 | haste | zenzio: no, you have to refresh pages with flash on for that to work |
| 07:28.57 | haste | you get the "plug-in has crash" sad-extension symbol |
| 07:29.13 | zenzio | haste: sorry, I was too unspecific - do you have to restart the browser? (From your previous answer it sounds like "no, only reload") |
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| 07:29.47 | haste | as of firefox 3.6.13 (or something?), you only have to refresh the tab |
| 07:30.00 | zenzio | haste: didn't know that - thanks for the tip |
| 07:31.10 | haste | 3.6.4 is the version that added the external plug-in container |
| 07:36.13 | zenzio | http://failblog.org/2011/04/06/epic-fail-photos-probably-bad-news-british-history-fail/ |
| 07:37.08 | mckenziemc1 | is there a way to make a shortcut for opera that opens a new window instead of a new tab |
| 07:37.31 | Fisker | lol opera |
| 07:37.47 | mckenziemc1 | lol dialup |
| 07:37.53 | mckenziemc1 | i use both opera and firefox |
| 07:38.01 | mckenziemc1 | since opera has download compression |
| 07:38.19 | haste | Opera TURBO!!!!111 |
| 07:38.31 | haste | on windows or linux mckenziemc1 ? |
| 07:38.31 | Fisker | opera turbo is stupid |
| 07:38.36 | mckenziemc1 | windows |
| 07:38.56 | haste | asks someone at opera. |
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| 07:39.14 | Fisker | damnit |
| 07:39.17 | Fisker | you 1337 haste |
| 07:39.32 | Fisker | stupid laptop keyboards |
| 07:39.43 | mckenziemc1 | stupid Fiskers |
| 07:39.48 | Fisker | no u |
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| 07:39.53 | Fisker | anyway why so opera haste ? |
| 07:40.03 | Fisker | it's not like knowing someone at opera is good |
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| 07:41.53 | airtonix | <insert dramatic sound track/> |
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| 07:42.10 | airtonix | <queue picture of fisker typing fast/> |
| 07:42.39 | haste | mckenziemc: slacker is offline! |
| 07:43.32 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 07:44.11 | Fisker | why would i be typing fast airtonix ? |
| 07:44.18 | haste | I glared at the opera docs, and they basically just list cmd options for Linux/Mac |
| 07:44.29 | haste | so I thought of asking someone who actually works there |
| 07:44.35 | haste | but the slacker is offline :P |
| 07:45.42 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 07:45.54 | airtonix | what kind of noob that make online software goes offline |
| 07:46.19 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 07:46.24 | Fisker | btw |
| 07:46.24 | mckenziemc | the noobs in airtonix's head |
| 07:46.33 | Fisker | ^^ is the reason why linux is a shitty operating system |
| 07:46.36 | airtonix | i find your answer irrelivant |
| 07:46.39 | haste | airtonix: a noob who wants to work uninterrupted I guess |
| 07:46.45 | Fisker | because in ubuntu i have to shift+¨ 4 times for ^^ |
| 07:46.52 | Fisker | but in windows i only need to do it 2 times |
| 07:46.53 | airtonix | wut |
| 07:46.57 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 07:47.03 | haste | Fisker: the guy I know is a HUGE mac fanboy now :P |
| 07:47.08 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:47.09 | airtonix | why would you shift quote? |
| 07:47.10 | haste | and Opera ofc |
| 07:47.17 | Fisker | it's not quote airtonix |
| 07:47.27 | Fisker | it's the dots from ö |
| 07:47.39 | airtonix | l2keyboard |
| 07:47.41 | Fisker | no u |
| 07:47.46 | airtonix | i don't need to |
| 07:47.56 | airtonix | i use the kings english |
| 07:48.08 | haste | alt gr + ; == ö -- yeeeeaaaaaah |
| 07:48.15 | airtonix | the one sanctioned by god |
| 07:48.45 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 07:48.51 | airtonix | i don't have a gr key |
| 07:48.58 | Fisker | i have a grrr key |
| 07:49.02 | airtonix | what is this primitive key ? |
| 07:49.02 | Fisker | hey mckenziemc |
| 07:49.05 | mckenziemc | at least linux has the Programmer's Dvorak pre-installed |
| 07:49.10 | mckenziemc | layout* |
| 07:49.13 | Fisker | dvorak sucks |
| 07:49.23 | Fisker | also i can change to dvorak in windows too |
| 07:49.29 | mckenziemc | reread |
| 07:49.30 | airtonix | Fisker: btw you can customise the keyboard noob |
| 07:49.33 | mckenziemc | not programmer's dvorak |
| 07:49.40 | Fisker | oh u |
| 07:49.46 | Fisker | either way |
| 07:49.48 | haste | linux even has Colemak pre-installed |
| 07:49.52 | haste | >:3 |
| 07:49.59 | Fisker | i lol'd @ everyone who is like "zomg dvorak is teh fastest layout ever" |
| 07:50.07 | haste | or rather X |
| 07:50.14 | zenzio | what's Colemak? |
| 07:50.17 | Fisker | Despite the fact that dvorak was optimized for english language ???? years ago, and not danish language today |
| 07:50.18 | Fisker | bam |
| 07:50.21 | haste | yet another keyboard layout zenzio |
| 07:50.28 | zenzio | oh, I see |
| 07:50.36 | haste | http://colemak.com/ |
| 07:50.36 | airtonix | Fisker: lucky i don't use danish |
| 07:50.40 | mckenziemc | duh Fisker |
| 07:50.59 | mckenziemc | besides, speed isn't its only (claimed) advantage |
| 07:51.09 | haste | I use both qwerty and colemak tho' |
| 07:51.26 | mckenziemc | plus you can get variants of dvorak for other languages |
| 07:52.06 | Fisker | mckenziemc it is when normal users bring it up :) |
| 07:52.18 | Fisker | and their variants of dvorak is just english + local keys |
| 07:52.22 | mckenziemc | wrong Fisker |
| 07:52.27 | mckenziemc | on both counts |
| 07:52.33 | zenzio | while I won't argue that there's room for improvement, I like QWERTY. I do require the Norwegian variant (in regards to special characters) though |
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| 07:52.46 | Fisker- | no ur wrong mckenziemc |
| 07:52.47 | Fisker- | jerk |
| 07:52.49 | haste | I'm using colemak right now |
| 07:52.57 | haste | and writing æøå isn't exactly painful |
| 07:52.58 | mitch0 | it shows |
| 07:53.25 | zenzio | before really getting into using this Mac at work I ended up making my own keyboard layout to make it work more like the Windows one :-x |
| 07:53.31 | Fisker | qwerty should be forced standard |
| 07:53.40 | mckenziemc | why |
| 07:53.44 | Fisker | or all keyboards should be like the original oled keyboard design |
| 07:53.51 | Fisker | from art lebedev |
| 07:53.56 | mckenziemc | what |
| 07:54.00 | Fisker | exactly |
| 07:55.17 | mckenziemc | the lack of accented etc. characters should be a forced standard |
| 07:55.21 | mckenziemc | see what i did there? |
| 07:55.21 | Fisker | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus/ <-or something like that |
| 07:55.27 | Fisker | i disagree mckenziemc |
| 07:55.33 | mckenziemc | i do too |
| 07:56.11 | mckenziemc | but it makes no more sense than using qwerty as a forced standard |
| 07:56.26 | mckenziemc | i suppose i should've used the English language instead |
| 07:57.56 | Fisker | mckenziemc provided that all keyboards have dynamic displays |
| 07:58.09 | mckenziemc | wrt what |
| 07:58.23 | Fisker | forced qwerty |
| 07:58.29 | mckenziemc | how so |
| 07:58.39 | Fisker | you could customize it if you wanted to |
| 07:58.39 | mckenziemc | you lost me |
| 07:59.18 | mckenziemc | maybe i lost you |
| 07:59.32 | mckenziemc | but i don't even know |
| 07:59.50 | Fisker | i meant like the default on the keyboard would always be qwerty |
| 07:59.56 | bluspacecow | oh how bromantic |
| 08:00.04 | Fisker | but you could always make other layouts (which were reflected on the keyboard of course) |
| 08:00.12 | Fisker | hello bluspacecow |
| 08:00.22 | mckenziemc | i support qwerty as a conventional standard |
| 08:00.31 | Fisker | but we're probably not getting keyboards with dynamic displays in the mainstream any time soon :P |
| 08:00.34 | mckenziemc | so i think that means i agree with you |
| 08:00.35 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 08:00.45 | mckenziemc | i think i would miss the tactile feedback |
| 08:00.53 | mckenziemc | but* |
| 08:00.59 | Fisker | haptic ftw |
| 08:01.05 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 08:01.18 | Fisker | that's a method of tactile feedback |
| 08:01.32 | mckenziemc | so is acupuncture |
| 08:01.32 | Fisker | or actually it's called haptics apparently |
| 08:01.48 | Fisker | on phones it will make the vibrator vibrate on touch |
| 08:02.01 | Fisker | also the maximus is with physical keys but oleds inside of it |
| 08:02.10 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 08:03.00 | mckenziemc | wait, then why does one of those pictures show the colored squares in a grid pattern rather than the offset pattern? |
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| 08:03.37 | Fisker | huh? |
| 08:03.43 | Fisker | they're different products |
| 08:03.46 | Fisker | http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ |
| 08:03.57 | Fisker | that's the maximus |
| 08:03.58 | mckenziemc | oh |
| 08:04.05 | Fisker | only costs 1500⬠:( |
| 08:04.33 | Kalroth | Adys: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12983734 silly frenchies! |
| 08:04.39 | Kalroth | "The law obliges a range of e-commerce sites, video and music services and webmail providers to keep a host of data on customers." |
| 08:04.40 | Kalroth | "This includes users' full names, postal addresses, telephone numbers and passwords. The data must be handed over to the authorities if demanded." |
| 08:04.59 | Kalroth | no more hashing of the password, its gotta be plain text! |
| 08:05.21 | Fisker | three strikes rule basically started in france |
| 08:05.24 | Fisker | what did you expect? |
| 08:05.42 | Fisker | I wonder what that means for the continued service of WoW |
| 08:06.44 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 08:08.44 | Fisker | storing passwords in plaintext should be illegal |
| 08:09.03 | mckenziemc | not practically enforcable : / |
| 08:09.20 | Fisker | users of course |
| 08:09.29 | Fisker | actually |
| 08:09.58 | Fisker | it should be "Storing passwords in plaintext or an otherwise reversible hash" should be illegal |
| 08:11.51 | Fisker | anyway i just feel like punching someone in the face when i lose some password for a site and when i go request it i get it back in plaintext |
| 08:14.12 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 08:14.13 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net:80/wow/en/forum/topic/2353267190?page=1#7 |
| 08:14.16 | bluspacecow | not sure if troll |
| 08:14.20 | bluspacecow | woops |
| 08:14.20 | Fisker | why so :80? |
| 08:14.22 | bluspacecow | i mean post 1 |
| 08:14.25 | bluspacecow | i dunno |
| 08:14.30 | bluspacecow | my silly internets adds |
| 08:14.31 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.35 | mckenziemc | not sure if bluspacecow tasty |
| 08:14.45 | bluspacecow | *offers arm* |
| 08:14.49 | bluspacecow | you wants to nom ? |
| 08:14.56 | bluspacecow | *sprnkles salt on* |
| 08:15.26 | Fisker | heh bluspacecow |
| 08:15.39 | bluspacecow | *adds tasty sauce and waves the smell of them mckenzie's way* |
| 08:15.43 | bluspacecow | yeah fiskery fisker |
| 08:15.47 | Fisker | the group could kick him for whatever reason they wanted |
| 08:15.56 | bluspacecow | good point |
| 08:17.45 | mitch0 | bet he's a hunter |
| 08:18.20 | mckenziemc | bluspacecow: you talk about the OP's guild wanted him to use addons but this was a random dungeon :O |
| 08:18.28 | bluspacecow | oh |
| 08:18.30 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 08:19.42 | bluspacecow | but lolz at copyright infrigement |
| 08:19.46 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 08:19.54 | mckenziemc | misinformation i would assume but |
| 08:20.16 | mckenziemc | the important part of the post (assuming it's not a troll) is "where can i report misuse of the dungeon kick feature" |
| 08:20.23 | mckenziemc | though i don't know if blizzard would even race |
| 08:20.27 | mckenziemc | care* |
| 08:20.32 | mckenziemc | that was odd. |
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| 08:23.13 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: Looks more to me like he was booted for covering himself in crazysauce and doing a little dance in front of others |
| 08:23.24 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 08:23.29 | bluspacecow | i would actually like to see that |
| 08:23.43 | bluspacecow | i would sit down to watch it while the rest of the Pug went on with the dungeon |
| 08:23.50 | mckenziemc | it's _possible_ that he was kicked for no fault of his own, i've seen that kind of thing happen |
| 08:24.07 | airtonix | no it's not |
| 08:24.13 | airtonix | no one lies on the internet |
| 08:24.16 | Dagmar | I'm thinking he probably told the group that he didn't use addons because they were copyright infringment... |
| 08:24.26 | bluspacecow | oh rly airtonix |
| 08:24.27 | Dagmar | ...and because they record character information which is illegal. |
| 08:24.28 | [Ammo] | we do that for fun at times |
| 08:24.30 | bluspacecow | i has huge boobs |
| 08:24.35 | bluspacecow | *props up on desk* |
| 08:24.39 | [Ammo] | join random dungeon with 3 people |
| 08:24.40 | bluspacecow | *phew* |
| 08:24.46 | airtonix | umadbro |
| 08:24.48 | mckenziemc | and cases were, let's say, the healer had issues healing someone because of something random, some idiot will say "You should use HealBot" |
| 08:24.50 | Dagmar | ...and the group decided he was barking mad and kicked him |
| 08:24.51 | [Ammo] | kick one of the 2 non-guildmates with reason: "wears funny underwear" |
| 08:24.54 | [Ammo] | :) |
| 08:25.02 | [Ammo] | and watch the reaction on the other non-guildmate |
| 08:25.14 | bluspacecow | "looked at my cheese sammich weridly* |
| 08:25.18 | [Ammo] | indeed |
| 08:25.24 | [Ammo] | stuff like that cracks me up |
| 08:25.53 | mckenziemc | so i suspect in this case he stood in the fire, whether by carelessness or pure accident, somebody told him to get the GTFO addon (it tells you if you're standing in a debuff) and he said he doesn't use addons because x |
| 08:25.58 | Dagmar | Oh yes |
| 08:26.03 | mckenziemc | (this is just a guess, i have no idea what really happened) |
| 08:26.13 | Dagmar | With his first paragraph of specifics being " |
| 08:26.36 | Dagmar | Stuff on Ground..." I'm pretty sure the conversation started because he was too stupid to get out of the fire |
| 08:26.52 | mckenziemc | yes, but how it started isn't the whole story |
| 08:27.13 | mckenziemc | i've stood in fire for reasons out of my practical control |
| 08:27.20 | Dagmar | Well, I know I'd have called for a votekick on the basis of being dangerously insane |
| 08:27.41 | mckenziemc | _that_ is a misuse of the feature :p |
| 08:27.54 | [Ammo] | votekick on the basis of hairstyle |
| 08:27.58 | airtonix | Fisker: nice troll post |
| 08:28.03 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 08:28.09 | Fisker | i don't have US accounts |
| 08:28.09 | airtonix | see what you've done here? |
| 08:28.29 | Dagmar | I dont' see how it could be a misuse. I've watched completely looney hunters try and tame stuff in _Ramparts_ by running up to it |
| 08:28.45 | mckenziemc | that's different |
| 08:28.57 | mckenziemc | if they're actually causing a repeated hindrance, then it's ok |
| 08:29.36 | mckenziemc | if, IF, he stood in the fire once, and some idiot told him "hey you need to get this addon" and he gave that response, yes, it would be crazy, but not grounds for a kick |
| 08:30.12 | mckenziemc | if he did it repeatedly, then sure, the kick was fine and the copyright misundestanding is just a side-issue |
| 08:30.14 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.30 | mckenziemc | most people are themselves crazy :( |
| 08:30.31 | Dagmar | That's not misunderstanding. That's more freaking crazy |
| 08:30.54 | mckenziemc | it is, but again, it's no grounds for a group kick |
| 08:30.59 | mckenziemc | by itself |
| 08:31.04 | karl_w_w | my guild got annoyed at me the other week cos i wouldnt kick the 5th group member, only non-guildy |
| 08:31.06 | Dagmar | Wasn't by itself |
| 08:31.27 | mckenziemc | i'm talking more generally |
| 08:31.44 | airtonix | i know how to solve this |
| 08:31.49 | mckenziemc | but in this case, the only addition we can be reasonably sure of is that he stood in bad stuff at least once |
| 08:31.59 | mckenziemc | which still isn't sufficient |
| 08:32.05 | Dagmar | "I have only done three dungeons since Cataclysm." he also says |
| 08:32.09 | mckenziemc | (for us to know if the kick was reasonable) |
| 08:32.11 | karl_w_w | I told them I like that I hardely ever kick, and then when the time comes that some complete tool needs to be kicked right at the start of a dungeon im the only one who can initiate |
| 08:32.18 | Dagmar | He probably stood in the fire _lots_ |
| 08:32.19 | mckenziemc | Dagmar: and? so have I |
| 08:32.38 | airtonix | ubad |
| 08:32.43 | mckenziemc | karl_w_w: heh |
| 08:33.10 | [Ammo] | the random dungeon tool is not a place to l2p |
| 08:33.12 | karl_w_w | im not gonna kick some guy just cos he's not the most polite dude out there |
| 08:33.18 | Dagmar | [Ammo]++ |
| 08:33.24 | airtonix | the game is not a place to l2p |
| 08:33.38 | karl_w_w | yeah, you have to l2p on the forums |
| 08:33.40 | [Ammo] | most people in there want their valor points and get out of there quickly |
| 08:33.40 | karl_w_w | o.O |
| 08:33.42 | Dagmar | I'll kick a looney who is a danger to the rest of the group in a quick second |
| 08:33.54 | airtonix | coz it's srs bizns |
| 08:33.55 | mckenziemc | yeah but |
| 08:33.58 | zenzio | oh god, I'm forever tainted by Objective-C... [Ammo] looks like a message |
| 08:34.04 | airtonix | LIFE THREATING EVEN!!!! |
| 08:34.06 | mckenziemc | do you really consider this one of those cases, Dagmar? |
| 08:34.06 | karl_w_w | [Ammo] seriously, was that a satirical joke of some kind? |
| 08:34.14 | mckenziemc | idk if you're just saying or if you actually think that |
| 08:34.20 | airtonix | i know how to solve this |
| 08:34.29 | airtonix | i solved it 16 months ago |
| 08:34.34 | Dagmar | I'm not just saying it. |
| 08:34.37 | [Ammo] | karl_w_w: not really |
| 08:34.39 | mckenziemc | cool story airtonix |
| 08:34.46 | karl_w_w | where are people meant to l2p |
| 08:34.54 | Dagmar | I actually would be for punting that guy if he said the things I think he probably said when he got called to the mat over standing in fire |
| 08:34.58 | airtonix | mckenziemc: would you like to hear this scandalous tale? |
| 08:35.01 | [Ammo] | if you're learning dungeons etc etc, better do it with a group from your guild/realm instead of blundering into the dungeon finder |
| 08:35.12 | airtonix | karl_w_w: in beta |
| 08:35.22 | zenzio | new people don't always have a guild or friends to learn with |
| 08:35.26 | mckenziemc | Dagmar: yes it's quite possible that things could've gone badly in his response |
| 08:35.27 | karl_w_w | L2P in runescape, wow is not a place to learn |
| 08:35.31 | Dagmar | He's almost certainly downplaying the things that were the _real_ reason the group kicked him |
| 08:35.38 | mckenziemc | it's also quite possible he didn't, we have insufficient info |
| 08:35.42 | airtonix | i like to use pen and paper |
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| 08:35.57 | airtonix | ... only joking |
| 08:35.58 | karl_w_w | the kick feature will always be abused |
| 08:36.09 | [Ammo] | I wouldn't call it abuse |
| 08:36.10 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 08:36.12 | [Ammo] | just 'used' |
| 08:36.16 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 08:36.23 | mckenziemc | yeah was at karl_w_w : / |
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| 08:36.36 | Dagmar | Extrapolating a bit from what he posted, he was probably playing like an idiot, then proceeded to argue crazytalk when they told him to get an addon if he can't pay attention enough to stay out of the fire |
| 08:36.40 | karl_w_w | I got kicked after a drahga wipe (in grim batol) because I was lowest on dps |
| 08:36.53 | mckenziemc | Dagmar: "extrapolating" <-- key issue |
| 08:36.55 | karl_w_w | the reason i was lowest was i was the only one killing adds |
| 08:36.56 | mckenziemc | insufficient info |
| 08:37.07 | Dagmar | There's _still_ people trying to treat things like a "heal through it" AoE-fest |
| 08:37.08 | karl_w_w | and the reason we wiped was the tank didnt move from add spawn point |
| 08:37.16 | [Ammo] | then be glad you got kicked because the group probably wouldn't finish it anyway |
| 08:37.20 | [Ammo] | and after a kick you can sign up again |
| 08:37.28 | [Ammo] | after a leave you get deserter :) |
| 08:37.38 | Dagmar | If the guy was still playing like it was WoTLK, whew |
| 08:37.40 | [Ammo] | they were kind to you |
| 08:37.45 | Xyphoid | i hate that you get a cooldown when leaving a group of 3 remaining |
| 08:37.58 | mckenziemc | you don't |
| 08:38.17 | Xyphoid | you don't get a deserter debuff but you still have the 15 minute cooldown |
| 08:38.23 | mckenziemc | you have to wait 15 minutes no matter what from the time you joined the random group but you don't get deserter |
| 08:38.25 | karl_w_w | why would you leave a group just cos others have left? |
| 08:38.25 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 08:38.49 | Dagmar | because he's a healer |
| 08:39.06 | Dagmar | ...who are *not* generally subject to 15m queue times, ever |
| 08:39.14 | karl_w_w | as long as every other person doesnt leave, you're still at the front of the queue |
| 08:39.18 | Xyphoid | also if people don't choose a role |
| 08:39.20 | mckenziemc | what i hate is when all 4 leave and i have to requeue + possibly have to wait for those 15 minutes first |
| 08:39.30 | mckenziemc | true |
| 08:39.56 | karl_w_w | there is no reason to leave a group of 3 that wouldnt also warrant deserter |
| 08:40.14 | karl_w_w | given that if people dont pick roles you should tell them to or vote them |
| 08:40.21 | mckenziemc | well, i wouldn't quite say that but |
| 08:40.33 | Dagmar | What if all three were paladins. |
| 08:40.47 | mckenziemc | sometimes the bad people will be the two who stayed |
| 08:40.59 | karl_w_w | if it was a full group of paladins and you left, you'd get deserter |
| 08:41.01 | mckenziemc | well okay, i guess that still warrants deserter |
| 08:41.33 | Dagmar | I'd gladly wait it out |
| 08:41.35 | mckenziemc | maybe not as a case-specific punisment but as a general deterrant (sp) |
| 08:41.35 | batbot | mckenziemc, deterrent, deter rant, deter-rant. |
| 08:41.40 | karl_w_w | it's quite kind really, that you dont get deserter |
| 08:41.49 | Xyphoid | i don't think you can votekick while that cooldown's on either |
| 08:41.50 | Dagmar | Three guys in plate who can't scrape up enough balls together to tank or heal... pfft |
| 08:41.59 | Xyphoid | it's not a big deal but it's annoying |
| 08:42.18 | mckenziemc | i think you could at one time but i have no idea anymore |
| 08:42.19 | karl_w_w | maybe they're there to gear a dps offspec |
| 08:42.29 | mckenziemc | blizz kept changing the specifics around |
| 08:42.45 | karl_w_w | i suppose the rest of the group is only there to satisfy the individual's needs |
| 08:43.49 | Dagmar | There's also another small matter to consider |
| 08:44.03 | Dagmar | If you're leaving three people, that means you're either a) tank or b) healer |
| 08:44.11 | Dagmar | er three DPSers |
| 08:44.12 | Xyphoid | i think lfd has to be designed for purely selfish people |
| 08:44.34 | karl_w_w | so if you're a tank or a healer? |
| 08:44.47 | mckenziemc | he said "group of 3" which i take as meaning there are two others, not 3 others |
| 08:44.47 | Dagmar | ...and if you're not? |
| 08:45.07 | karl_w_w | well it seemed like you were going to make a point |
| 08:45.12 | Dagmar | Not really |
| 08:45.18 | Dagmar | Just chumming the waters |
| 08:45.20 | karl_w_w | about the significance of being a tank/healer? |
| 08:45.37 | Dagmar | I've seen it not gimme a queue penalty for dropping from two other guys before |
| 08:45.49 | karl_w_w | yeah dont think it does |
| 08:46.05 | Xyphoid | yeah i was only talking about the 15 minute cooldown from when you start |
| 08:46.20 | airtonix | still talking about this? |
| 08:46.23 | airtonix | :< |
| 08:46.29 | mckenziemc | so? |
| 08:46.43 | karl_w_w | throws a ball of string for airtonix |
| 08:46.51 | airtonix | FUUUU |
| 08:47.08 | karl_w_w | -BAAAAAR? |
| 08:48.22 | Dagmar | We shouldn't een have to vote to kick DPS DKs who use Death Group |
| 08:48.27 | Dagmar | er Death Grip |
| 08:48.27 | airtonix | i might destroy you soon |
| 08:51.07 | Dagmar | For whatever reason they get real mad when you chain-heal the tank tho' |
| 08:52.21 | Xyphoid | death group would be a good level 90 spell, hm |
| 08:53.25 | Dagmar | Well, when said DK has spent exactly zero talent points on self-heals and does this repeatedly, it can turn into Death Group once the healer runs flat |
| 08:55.00 | Dagmar | There was a good ten minutes of drama while the *actual* tank got his panties all in a bunch and started demanding the DK tank |
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| 08:56.10 | Dagmar | Once I got the wankers moving again, I started simply casting any heals I thought the DK needed right on the tank for a few pulls |
| 08:56.33 | Dagmar | Death can be very educational |
| 08:57.40 | zenzio | I sometimes use that tactic as a tank; save the good people, let the bastard die and hope he learns (not to be confused with letting a new player who at least tries to do things right die) |
| 08:58.32 | zenzio | harder after WotLK, but still |
| 08:58.32 | Dagmar | As a healer, I have very low tolerance for willful idiocy like that tho |
| 08:59.23 | airtonix | i find star trek voyager more entertaining than harry potter. discuss. |
| 08:59.31 | Dagmar | People zerg so often I barely have time to drink as it is. Trying to keep *two* guys who like to block with their faces topped off means either everyone waits while I drink, or there is a *serious* risk of a wipe |
| 09:00.12 | airtonix | Dagmar: disc stu reporting for duty |
| 09:00.36 | Dagmar | I can keep groups alive through crazy stuff going wrong, but only if three of them are actually trying to avoid taking damage |
| 09:01.08 | airtonix | it's your job as Awesome Healer Esq. to train tanks to move as fast as you want and ignore the peasantry surrounding you |
| 09:01.25 | Dagmar | pfft they dont' listen to that |
| 09:01.33 | Dagmar | Paladin tanks being the worst about it |
| 09:01.39 | airtonix | then stop playing |
| 09:01.57 | Dagmar | At least they mostly know when there's a druid healing to heal *themselves* some if they're going to willfully take massive spike damage |
| 09:02.24 | airtonix | Disco Stu! |
| 09:02.35 | Dagmar | airtonix: Why would I stop playing? I *enjoy* letting people die |
| 09:02.46 | airtonix | and i enjoy reading your qq |
| 09:03.18 | Dagmar | I'd do it more often in pugs for strategy reasons if I could toss people a few gold for their repair bill |
| 09:03.51 | Dagmar | Some mage gets crazy, takes massive aggro and can't threat-drop? Hmmm... |
| 09:04.11 | Dagmar | You can burn a ton of mana keeping them alive, or you can just let 'em go and toss a bres on |
| 09:04.53 | airtonix | Dagmar: did you know i am awesome? |
| 09:04.56 | Dagmar | You didnt' take a bunch more aggro from crazy-healing the clothie with the hair-trigger, said clothie is now at the bottom of the list again, and the tank has an easy time of rounding them back up |
| 09:06.24 | Dagmar | Meter whores who stand in the fire are doubly-amusing to watch die |
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| 09:14.30 | Fisker | bitches |
| 09:14.37 | airtonix | Person |
| 09:14.41 | Fisker | isn't that right haste ? |
| 09:17.25 | airtonix | mmmm eggplant stew |
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| 09:47.31 | zenzio | "An elderly Georgian woman was scavenging for copper with a spade when she accidentally sliced through an underground cable and cut off internet services to nearly all of neighboring Armenia. The fibre-optic cable near Tiblisi, Georgia, supplies about 90% of Armenia's internet so the woman's unwitting sabotage had catastrophic consequences." |
| 09:47.33 | zenzio | oops |
| 09:53.10 | airtonix | noob |
| 09:54.35 | airtonix | :(, i have to another pair of headphones |
| 09:57.01 | Fisker | i hate copper scavengers |
| 09:57.19 | airtonix | yeah scavenging for police is not honourable |
| 09:57.39 | Fisker | i saw what you did there |
| 09:59.32 | airtonix | i jui just enabled expo |
| 10:01.19 | Fisker | wut? |
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| 10:30.06 | Adys | Maldivia: beh, the new google navbar doesn't support encrypted.google.com either :/ |
| 10:32.21 | airtonix | Fisker: for $150/hr you'd think someone could fucking package a python project properly.. FUUUUUUUUU |
| 10:32.31 | airtonix | it's all your fault |
| 10:34.58 | zenzio | airtonix: which project? |
| 10:35.14 | airtonix | it's a project i'm taking over |
| 10:35.36 | airtonix | i bet it's going to have code more horrible than mine |
| 10:35.50 | airtonix | Adys: you are not prepared. |
| 10:35.59 | Adys | i sure am |
| 10:36.09 | airtonix | you say that now |
| 10:36.32 | airtonix | but in retrospect... your perspective will be coloured by experience. |
| 10:36.40 | airtonix | nad rage |
| 10:38.43 | mckenziemc | my nads are raging right now, airtonix |
| 10:39.19 | airtonix | good |
| 10:39.26 | airtonix | you can be my jesus |
| 10:39.31 | mckenziemc | i really should go to bed now but i don't want to : / |
| 10:39.57 | airtonix | jnwhiteh: what is channel "Yes" ? |
| 10:40.07 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: hrm? |
| 10:40.19 | airtonix | you're in england right ? |
| 10:40.50 | jnwhiteh | correct |
| 10:41.58 | mckenziemc | yes airtonix, and there are laws prohibiting the export of words from Mars to England. Hide quick. |
| 10:43.21 | airtonix | -_- |
| 10:43.27 | airtonix | \o) |
| 10:44.56 | jnwhiteh | I don't understand what you are asking |
| 10:44.57 | jnwhiteh | but okay |
| 10:45.41 | mckenziemc | that's because i had to intercept his communications |
| 10:52.02 | airtonix | television channel |
| 10:52.06 | airtonix | called "yes" |
| 10:52.32 | airtonix | Are they trying to appeal to my sense of individual hedonism? |
| 10:55.40 | mckenziemc | ~dict isthisstillbroken |
| 10:55.49 | mckenziemc | ~dict hedonism |
| 10:55.59 | mckenziemc | aww thanks purl |
| 10:57.12 | airtonix | you have free will |
| 10:57.15 | airtonix | lawl |
| 10:57.17 | airtonix | right |
| 11:00.37 | mckenziemc | my will isn't free |
| 11:00.42 | mckenziemc | it costs $399 |
| 11:03.22 | airtonix | same price as windows 7 ? |
| 11:03.30 | airtonix | orrr... ? |
| 11:04.01 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 11:04.03 | Fisker | do you agree? |
| 11:04.09 | jnwhiteh | I disagree |
| 11:04.15 | Fisker | oh |
| 11:04.29 | airtonix | next motion |
| 11:04.44 | Fisker | so you want several "pro/premium/plus" apps on Android market which only purpose is to serve as a dummy app for a license? |
| 11:04.52 | Fisker | that sucks |
| 11:05.03 | airtonix | i think it's hilarious |
| 11:05.11 | airtonix | typical of windows programmers |
| 11:06.13 | airtonix | Fisker: obfuscation. Can you dig it ? |
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| 11:11.51 | Fisker | windows? |
| 11:12.01 | Fisker | and why is it obfuscation? |
| 11:12.40 | Fisker | hey Tuller |
| 11:12.42 | Fisker | do i like you? |
| 11:14.16 | Kalroth | obfuscates Fkisre |
| 11:16.11 | airtonix | obfuscates Kalroth |
| 11:16.20 | Kalroth | wait a minute |
| 11:16.38 | airtonix | you don't understand |
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| 11:19.53 | Fisker | violates Kalroth |
| 11:20.06 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 11:35.00 | Tuller | i just realizedi irc was up, fascinating |
| 11:35.39 | mckenziemc | what |
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| 11:38.27 | mckenziemc | heh, bad mistake |
| 11:39.01 | mckenziemc | the OP in this thread just made a post saying they got what they need and want the thread locked, since "some of the posts are mean" : / |
| 11:39.54 | Fisker | farts |
| 11:42.42 | mckenziemc | That spell isn't ready yet. |
| 11:43.28 | mckenziemc | anyway, goodnight Fisker |
| 11:43.51 | Fisker | bye mckenziemc |
| 11:43.55 | Fisker | i hope you dream about dying |
| 11:44.09 | Fisker | and that you go so many dream levels down you can't come back |
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| 11:44.28 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v bluspacecow] by ChanServ |
| 11:45.29 | bluspacecow | fisker |
| 11:45.29 | bluspacecow | fiskery fisker |
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| 11:52.50 | bluspacecow | no fiskers ? |
| 11:52.52 | bluspacecow | :( |
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| 12:09.57 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 12:10.00 | bluspacecow | ok then |
| 12:10.10 | bluspacecow | just got back to the gym |
| 12:10.14 | bluspacecow | *from the gym |
| 12:10.17 | bluspacecow | and it was funny |
| 12:10.20 | karl_w_w | can i say shit on mmo champ? :P |
| 12:10.24 | bluspacecow | was watching the kick boxing when i was there |
| 12:10.25 | karl_w_w | not at anybody |
| 12:10.26 | angayelle | all sweaty now ? |
| 12:10.46 | bluspacecow | and the match mostly consisted of the 2 fighters *hugging each other* |
| 12:11.09 | bluspacecow | like wrestling each other |
| 12:12.25 | angayelle | i have many fontstrings in which i want to change the font used for text, they all inherits from a template, i thought i could just change the font in the template and all of them would then change but it's not working that way it seems |
| 12:12.43 | angayelle | just wanna be sure, i need to change all the fontrsings directly ? |
| 12:13.07 | angayelle | change the font from ingame ofc |
| 12:19.36 | foxlit | inheriting from a different template would be easiest |
| 12:20.57 | angayelle | mmmh |
| 12:21.09 | foxlit | though I suppose that doesn't help you at run time. |
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| 12:35.45 | Cairenn | gives Lopeppeppy a long tight hug |
| 12:35.54 | Cairenn | I'm so sorry sweetie :( |
| 12:36.52 | alestane | Kat's standing here meering for you too. |
| 12:38.55 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, guys. *big big hugs* |
| 12:39.03 | Cairenn | love you |
| 12:39.25 | Lopeppeppy | Moose has been very affectionate, which has helped. Still in the suck stage, but Office Worker Barbie came to work today anyway. |
| 12:39.48 | Cairenn | *more hugs* |
| 12:40.16 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks. I hang out over here, just all quiet and stuff. |
| 12:40.49 | Cairenn | nod |
| 12:50.06 | karl_w_w | anyone know what xperl raid admin actually does? |
| 12:50.16 | karl_w_w | like if you click load, does it invite everybody? |
| 12:53.12 | Lopeppeppy | I've never used it... what does the addon download page have to say? |
| 12:57.26 | zenzio | comforts Lopeppeppy |
| 12:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles zenzio. |
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| 12:59.40 | karl_w_w | not a lot peppy |
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| 12:59.45 | karl_w_w | just that it's a work in progress |
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| 13:00.56 | Kraps | what happened to Lopeppeppy? |
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| 13:01.22 | alestane | Her kitty got sick, Kraps. |
| 13:01.36 | alestane | And went downhill fast. |
| 13:01.43 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I had to make the choice to euthanize my beloved kitty Rosiekins yesterday. She was in failing health due to renal failure, and just... got done fighting it. |
| 13:02.01 | Kraps | damn :( |
| 13:02.32 | Lopeppeppy | It's rough. So I'm just kind of zombie-ing along today. |
| 13:02.49 | Lopeppeppy | Thankfully with many good friends to snuggle and keep me company here. |
| 13:15.43 | bluspacecow | *hugs Loppy too* (don't know what reason but wanted to join in the fun_ |
| 13:15.58 | bluspacecow | awwwww |
| 13:16.00 | bluspacecow | poor kitty |
| 13:16.26 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 13:16.35 | bluspacecow | FISKER! |
| 13:16.54 | bluspacecow | was watching kickboxing on the telly vision.... cept they were hugging for some reason O_O |
| 13:17.06 | Fisker | :O |
| 13:17.13 | Jamash | manly hugging |
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| 13:17.43 | bluspacecow | hai2u xinhuan |
| 13:17.44 | Jamash | you should see the UFC game for ex box |
| 13:17.49 | Xinhuan | hello |
| 13:18.01 | bluspacecow | i'm in your base in minecraft |
| 13:18.06 | bluspacecow | its night and I r scraed |
| 13:18.22 | Xinhuan | i think my house is fairly lit |
| 13:18.26 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, blu-bear. |
| 13:18.32 | Xinhuan | but the shore might not be |
| 13:19.01 | Xinhuan | but you should move your little mine shaft away because i intend to kill all the terrain around my house so its on an island :P |
| 13:19.08 | Xinhuan | and your mine shaft could get flooded lol |
| 13:19.12 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 13:19.15 | Jamash | UFC game: sweaty, half-naked men hugging each other and sometimes dry-humping |
| 13:19.19 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 13:19.31 | Xinhuan | plus if you look at cog's generated daily caves |
| 13:19.38 | Xinhuan | you'll see the area you are on is already mined |
| 13:19.50 | bluspacecow | well i took the boat and went al the way back to cog's central station |
| 13:20.03 | bluspacecow | then went to visit jim's new place |
| 13:20.14 | bluspacecow | which is apparently right around the corner from where i started -_- |
| 13:20.18 | Xinhuan | jim's new place? |
| 13:20.19 | Jamash | blows up minecraft |
| 13:20.29 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 13:20.34 | bluspacecow | blue line, |
| 13:20.45 | Lopeppeppy | Jim's on the blue line!! |
| 13:20.46 | Xinhuan | is it near my place |
| 13:20.48 | Lopeppeppy | sings randomly |
| 13:21.09 | bluspacecow | theres a big tower right around the corner |
| 13:21.33 | Xinhuan | are u on now |
| 13:21.40 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 13:21.48 | Jamash | ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss |
| 13:21.49 | Xinhuan | logging in |
| 13:24.25 | Fisker | btw bluspacecow |
| 13:24.38 | Kraps | finally a music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXKSuHuYslU |
| 13:24.41 | Fisker | is Blizzard's new Call to Arms shit the best example of symptomsolving ever? |
| 13:25.08 | Jamash | calls Fisker's arms |
| 13:25.08 | bluspacecow | yessum |
| 13:25.12 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 13:25.22 | bluspacecow | *calls fisker's arm tentacles* |
| 13:25.25 | Fisker | no! |
| 13:25.26 | Xinhuan | http://cogwheel.info/minecraft/cogwheel-caves-current.png |
| 13:25.35 | Fisker | anyway |
| 13:25.44 | Xinhuan | you see that square of horizontal lines |
| 13:25.44 | Fisker | they should never have gone away from the wotlk heroics |
| 13:25.48 | Fisker | they were genius |
| 13:25.52 | Xinhuan | your mineshaft is almost over it |
| 13:26.01 | Fisker | didn't take more than 10-15 minutes to complete, had reasonable rewards, and no caps |
| 13:26.47 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 13:26.57 | Xinhuan | you can see yssaril's skydome in that cave system map |
| 13:26.58 | bluspacecow | my shaft is at bedrock anyways |
| 13:27.03 | Fisker | anyway bluspacecow |
| 13:27.07 | Xinhuan | and NE of that is the strip mine |
| 13:27.08 | Fisker | i had the best ever joke |
| 13:27.16 | Xinhuan | yeah everyone digs bedrock |
| 13:27.18 | Xinhuan | for diamonds |
| 13:27.20 | Fisker | The new Call to Arms may reduce DPS queues |
| 13:27.25 | Fisker | but it will increase DPS QQ's |
| 13:27.27 | Fisker | GET IT? |
| 13:27.28 | Fisker | LOL |
| 13:27.28 | Fisker | ! |
| 13:27.36 | bluspacecow | LOLX fisker |
| 13:27.40 | Fisker | i win! |
| 13:27.42 | Jamash | removes Fisker's arms |
| 13:27.47 | Fisker | no! |
| 13:27.47 | Xinhuan | just check http://cogwheel.info/minecraft/ |
| 13:27.52 | Xinhuan | for the other pngs |
| 13:28.01 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 13:28.09 | bluspacecow | *replaces fiskers arms with tentacles* |
| 13:28.22 | Jamash | kinky |
| 13:28.30 | SinusPi | you're giving him too much of an advantage over schoolgirls. |
| 13:28.42 | Jamash | fnarr fnarr |
| 13:30.17 | Jamash | I decided to make a hexblade in our new 4e campaign |
| 13:30.31 | Jamash | in dark sun :-/ |
| 13:31.35 | alestane | That was a cool class in 3.5 |
| 13:31.45 | alestane | I built a hexblade/arcane archer once. |
| 13:32.00 | Ackis | fun fun fun fun |
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| 13:33.11 | Jamash | my character concept is that he thinks he's a nature-based caster even though he's actually a warlock |
| 13:34.00 | Kraps | http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/04/06/starcraft-2-mods-get-official-release-new-achievements-and-avatars-up-for-grabs/ |
| 13:34.15 | Jamash | wewt |
| 13:37.44 | Kraps | "âZombies on one hand are relateable. Theyâre partially human, not like aliens or killer plants,â says Krakowiak. âI wonât get into how they represent the mundane lives of office workers or something. Thatâs a topic for a conversation after a huge amount of alcohol." |
| 13:38.12 | Jamash | eats Kraps' brain |
| 13:38.29 | Kraps | noooooooo |
| 13:39.52 | Jamash | I actually think the whole Science Zombie thing is pretty goofy |
| 13:40.23 | Fisker | ~seen kd3 |
| 13:40.33 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowuidev (3h 53m 27s), last said: 'right turn, left turn, right turn, left turn, decent approximation'. |
| 13:40.52 | Fisker | kd3's his pants |
| 13:42.36 | Fisker | why is mythbusters in HD always so damn late |
| 13:42.47 | Fisker | on my completely legal tv channel of course |
| 13:42.56 | Kraps | lolololo Fisker |
| 13:43.12 | Jamash | you wouldn't download a Mythbuster Fisker |
| 13:44.15 | Kraps | Dish Network Corp (DISH) placed the winning bid to purchase the former video rental giant, Blockbuster Inc. (BLOAQ.PK). They agreed to cough up $320 million, outbidding billionaire Carl Icahn and Monarch Alternative Capital of New York. |
| 13:44.40 | Fisker | wyh would anyone buy blockbuster? |
| 13:45.19 | Jamash | they're going to distribute DVDs via satellite |
| 13:45.32 | bluspacecow | dang |
| 13:45.42 | Fisker | do they have to buy Blockbuster to do that? |
| 13:46.07 | bluspacecow | account time finally run out... of course i store all y game cards at work so now i gotta go into work .... at 2am in the morning lolz ... lucky we're 24hrs .... |
| 13:46.18 | Fisker | wut? |
| 13:46.31 | Jamash | I don't want to spoil the details Fisker but let's just say the name is going to be considerably more literal now |
| 13:46.37 | Fisker | i wish i had one of them 25 year gamecards :( |
| 13:46.46 | Fisker | oh my god Jamash |
| 13:47.00 | Fisker | so they're building ion cannons? |
| 13:47.07 | Jamash | worse |
| 13:47.11 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow: do you play at work? |
| 13:47.13 | Jamash | DVD cannons |
| 13:47.15 | Kraps | bluspacecow: WHY would you store all your game cards at work? |
| 13:47.17 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 13:47.32 | bluspacecow | because its a location thats patrolled 24/7 and alarmed |
| 13:47.43 | Thunder_Child | seriously....they are game cards |
| 13:47.57 | bluspacecow | 1 year game cards |
| 13:48.02 | Jamash | I'm interested by the phrase "all my game cards" |
| 13:48.12 | Jamash | how many years worth of game cards do you have |
| 13:48.15 | bluspacecow | yes all 2 of them |
| 13:48.28 | Fisker | i want a 25 year one bluspacecow |
| 13:48.31 | Fisker | get me one |
| 13:48.31 | bluspacecow | yeah i'm a little ecccentric at times |
| 13:48.37 | Jamash | I hear english had the word "both" added in the latest update |
| 13:48.45 | Kraps | "because its a location thats patrolled 24/7 and alarmed" |
| 13:48.48 | bluspacecow | good call |
| 13:49.04 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:49.06 | Fisker | you hate me bluspacecow |
| 13:49.12 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 13:49.22 | bluspacecow | if i hated you fisker you would be on global ignore |
| 13:49.33 | Jamash | sells Fisker a 25 minute game card for 25 euros |
| 13:49.36 | Fisker | nah |
| 13:49.40 | Fisker | that's not hate bluspacecow |
| 13:49.49 | Fisker | 25 year Jamash |
| 13:49.49 | Fisker | pl0x |
| 13:49.51 | Jamash | Hate is a kind of love. |
| 13:49.53 | bluspacecow | well i don't |
| 13:50.10 | Kraps | what is love? |
| 13:50.21 | bluspacecow | baby dont hurt me |
| 13:50.25 | bluspacecow | dont hurt me |
| 13:50.26 | bluspacecow | no more |
| 13:50.51 | Fisker | anyway bluspacecow |
| 13:51.00 | Fisker | why don't you get a 25 year gamecard? |
| 13:51.08 | Fisker | no need to worry about damn gamecards anymore |
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| 13:51.59 | Lopeppeppy | blu, you know you can enter them... and they will be stored in the system... and not stealable anymore? |
| 13:52.13 | bluspacecow | yes i know |
| 13:52.36 | bluspacecow | its cold here :( |
| 13:52.58 | Fisker | i'll warm you up for a 25 year gamecard |
| 13:53.22 | Kraps | how is that an incentive Fisker? |
| 13:53.31 | Fisker | good point |
| 13:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 13:54.31 | Kraps | http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/06/ataris-greatest-hits-app-brings-100-new-old-games-to-ios/ |
| 13:54.41 | Fisker | old Kraps |
| 13:54.49 | Kraps | yes Fisker |
| 13:54.56 | bluspacecow | can't even post either |
| 13:55.32 | Kraps | http://www.joystiq.com/2011/04/06/minecraft-has-earned-over-33-million-notch-reveals/ |
| 13:56.08 | Xinhuan | that's not a surprise |
| 13:56.13 | Xinhuan | he sold 1.7 mil copies |
| 13:56.23 | Xinhuan | x10 to 15 pounds each |
| 13:56.37 | Xinhuan | convert that to USD, its about 33 mil |
| 13:57.58 | Xinhuan | wow i didn't expect the article to list numbers to a bit more exact details |
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| 14:00.20 | Fisker | btw Kraps |
| 14:00.25 | Fisker | this may be a surprise to you |
| 14:00.26 | Fisker | but old |
| 14:00.27 | Fisker | hoho |
| 14:00.37 | Kraps | naw Fisker |
| 14:00.44 | Kraps | no surprise |
| 14:01.04 | Fisker | oh |
| 14:01.06 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:01.26 | Jamash | so old it's new again |
| 14:03.26 | Kraps | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/04/07/happy-birthday-the-internet/ |
| 14:05.42 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 14:06.15 | Kraps | http://www.destructoid.com/ea-and-hasbro-declare-april-7th-global-monopoly-day-198287.phtml |
| 14:06.45 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 14:07.02 | Kraps | y so negative Fisker? |
| 14:07.22 | Ackis | blackmails Fisker |
| 14:07.36 | Fisker | nooo |
| 14:08.05 | Kraps | whitemails Fisker lololololo |
| 14:09.12 | Kraps | that means i mailed you some anthrax Fisker |
| 14:09.55 | Fisker | oh |
| 14:09.59 | Fisker | reported to the feds |
| 14:10.13 | Kraps | :( |
| 14:12.26 | Fisker | :) |
| 14:15.20 | Kraps | reply #1 is legit http://www.hoardgame.com/community/index.php?topic=951.0 |
| 14:17.17 | Fisker | i legitted u |
| 14:17.39 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/984270/ lol |
| 14:18.13 | Fisker | i lol'd |
| 14:18.28 | Fisker | what are we lol'ing about? |
| 14:18.35 | Fisker | DPS QQ? |
| 14:19.59 | Fisker | oh ok Kraps |
| 14:20.10 | Kraps | bye |
| 14:20.55 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 14:21.03 | Fisker | i want to sex with you |
| 14:21.28 | Ackis | for free? |
| 14:21.32 | Fisker | for free |
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| 14:23.48 | Ackis | I don't understand what all the QQ is about call to arms |
| 14:23.52 | Ackis | and oh hi Odlaw |
| 14:24.14 | jnwhiteh | The QQ is that tanks and healers get free loot. |
| 14:24.30 | jnwhiteh | I'd be *stupid* not to become a bear tank with heroic gear |
| 14:24.38 | Ackis | I don't think it'll affect healers all that much |
| 14:24.41 | Ackis | more so tanks |
| 14:24.47 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 14:24.59 | jnwhiteh | there are some rare times that a healer CTA might come up |
| 14:25.07 | jnwhiteh | but yeah, why should tanks get free loot, like the mounts |
| 14:25.27 | Ackis | the only part that I don't like is that you have to solo queue... they've done a lot of work to encourage you to do guild things, and now they're encouraging you to solo queue |
| 14:25.51 | jnwhiteh | well taht prevents the tank from getting loot for doing what they always do |
| 14:25.55 | angayelle | if i were a tank this wouldn't make me go there, spend 30-45 mins with pugs for a 1% chance for a mount |
| 14:26.00 | jnwhiteh | which would make *no* sense |
| 14:26.31 | Ackis | I agree it doesn't make sense jnwhiteh, just saying that they've been pushing really hard in one direction and this is coming from left field |
| 14:26.38 | jnwhiteh | yeah, I dont know if it'll be the incentive they think it will |
| 14:26.38 | Fisker | symptom solving ftw jnwhiteh |
| 14:26.40 | alestane | In *theory*, the system should be self-correcting...if you raise the tank supply, then demand for healers should rise. But it's almost inconceivable that they'll ever do a DPS call to arms, and I doubt it will have enough effect to make healing the dominant scaricty most of the time. |
| 14:26.42 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: oh yeah, its completely bizarre |
| 14:26.57 | alestane | Ackis: This isn't for people doing guild runs. |
| 14:27.13 | Ackis | it's just applying supply/demand to role's basically |
| 14:27.14 | angayelle | getting lowered from 30 mins to even a 20-25 mins is still very good for dps |
| 14:27.19 | alestane | My guild is largely inactive and I don't spend enough time playing to actively seek another one. |
| 14:27.39 | alestane | So when I want to dungeon, I usually jump in a solo queue. |
| 14:28.10 | alestane | This is attempting to solve a problem being suffered by a different group of people. |
| 14:28.12 | Ackis | it'll all depend on the chance of the special loot... if it's a 1% chance at a mount, then no, if it's a 20% chance then sure I'll do it til I have all of them :D |
| 14:28.22 | Ackis | specs tanking spec priest! |
| 14:28.33 | karl_w_w | what's the best way to find out what group you're in? |
| 14:28.38 | karl_w_w | in a raid |
| 14:28.45 | Ackis | look at your raid frames? |
| 14:28.56 | alestane | GetRaidRosterInfo, I think? |
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| 14:30.53 | foxlit | "jnwhiteh: but yeah, why should tanks get free loot, like the mounts" << Because the dps queue times are mildly speaking unfortunate. |
| 14:31.11 | foxlit | It's vanity loot, too, so meh. |
| 14:31.19 | jnwhiteh | its just a *weird* solution |
| 14:31.26 | jnwhiteh | will be interesting to see if it does what its intended to do |
| 14:31.44 | alestane | But I think they're hoping that more people will attempt scarce roles, and maybe build a little expertise or develop more of a taste for it. Despite the hilarity with which the idea was greeted last night, I think it will have an observable upward force on the number of people willing/interested to tank, even if they have the special rewards already; although it may also force proportions of unsatisfactory experiences |
| 14:31.44 | alestane | upward, and the ratio may not be effective. |
| 14:32.44 | alestane | And things like the flasks are, I think, intended to offset the expense of repair bills and so forth; that part makes sense, making it less painful to be a tank, rather than more lucrative. |
| 14:33.31 | alestane | I think it has the potential to have a positive effect. |
| 14:33.39 | Ackis | alestane: they need to relax the "solo queue" restriction to let you queue with at least one person *shrugs* |
| 14:33.52 | karl_w_w | its just odd that you have to iterate through the raid to find what group the player is in |
| 14:33.56 | Ackis | it also has the potential to fail worse that ingame voice chat |
| 14:34.21 | alestane | And that's the sort of thing that they can tune or modify if they discover that it's a problem. |
| 14:34.27 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: you don't. |
| 14:34.27 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetRaidRosterInfo |
| 14:34.28 | alestane | Ingame voice chat never failed. |
| 14:34.30 | jnwhiteh | as has already been said, afaik. |
| 14:35.14 | alestane | It continues to provide a roll-and-go voice solution for those not involved with a group that can maintain a vent server. |
| 14:35.20 | alestane | The demand for it is fairly small. |
| 14:35.23 | Ackis | it'll be interesting seeing this go live, I'm just a bit sad it won't really affect me |
| 14:35.32 | Ackis | I've never used it, nor seen it used alestane |
| 14:35.36 | alestane | But it still does what it needs to do. |
| 14:35.50 | alestane | I have, playing with my wife and our friend a few towns over. |
| 14:36.20 | Ackis | hell I tried using it recently and failed (couldn't get it to work aka user error and the group didn't want to use it) |
| 14:36.20 | alestane | We used it quite a bit when we had time to play when we weren't visiting anyway. |
| 14:36.21 | jnwhiteh | karl_w_w: hint, the player is always the highest 'n' in 'raidn' |
| 14:36.46 | jnwhiteh | so select(3, GetRaidRosterInfo(GetNumRaidMembers())) |
| 14:36.49 | jnwhiteh | perhaps |
| 14:37.10 | jnwhiteh | covered on page 192 =) |
| 14:37.32 | alestane | It is not a major contributor to the game in the presence of higher-grade third-party solutions. But I would not say it is a failure, because its only actual requirement is to be available. |
| 14:38.02 | alestane | They were never trying to convert people away from Ventrilo or TeamSpeak or Mumble. |
| 14:38.18 | foxlit | [should've been!] |
| 14:38.42 | alestane | Why? Those are perfectly adequate solutions for those who want to contract them. |
| 14:39.00 | Ackis | I'm going to disagree with you there, the amount of work versus reward was too high, I think it was a failed experiment |
| 14:39.04 | alestane | WoW Voice is basically a "public option." |
| 14:39.45 | foxlit | Why not? Relying on third party software to provide functionality for your game is kind of meh. |
| 14:40.17 | alestane | It might be a business failure, if the effort expended to implement it was more expensive than the size of player base attracted or retained as a result of an integrated solution. |
| 14:40.47 | Ackis | maybe they need to do a refresher on it |
| 14:41.21 | Ackis | new player tips or something |
| 14:41.31 | Ackis | kind of how they did the raid finder in the past few weeks |
| 14:41.53 | alestane | foxlit, I think we agree. The intent is to make sure that every WoW player has access to a voice tool. |
| 14:42.03 | alestane | At that, it succeeds. |
| 14:42.45 | alestane | But if there's a group that's happily using their own mumble server or whatever, Blizzard sees no value in trying to get them off of that and onto WoW's voice chat. |
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| 14:43.33 | alestane | If there's a group that wants to do heroics and doesn't want to spring for a server in terms of money or effort, they can use the in-game voice chat and not feel obliged to spend extra dough to make the game "playable." |
| 14:44.13 | foxlit | Why do guilds feel obliged to spend extra dough to get third party voice comms, though? |
| 14:44.44 | TC-Laptop | foxlit: most already have hem |
| 14:44.46 | alestane | Still? They see extra value in higher-quality voice communication, or a server where they can ban people themselves. |
| 14:44.48 | TC-Laptop | them* |
| 14:45.09 | foxlit | The ban rationale is weird. |
| 14:45.21 | foxlit | Presumably, if you don't want someone talking, you'd kick them out of your raid group. |
| 14:45.41 | foxlit | As for extra value, I see that as a sign that Blizzard's offering is sub-par. |
| 14:45.50 | alestane | I doubt it's the main requirement. But some people do like having a solution that they control themselves in house. |
| 14:45.50 | Lopeppeppy | More control of ability to talk by role, higher quality of the communications, ability to use it outside of the game for planning, etc... |
| 14:46.04 | karl_w_w | thanks mr jnwhiteh |
| 14:46.09 | alestane | Blizzard's offering is baseline, which is what it's supposed to be |
| 14:46.18 | Lopeppeppy | Blizzard's solution is acceptable. But you can get higher quality if you pay for it. Just like... cafeteria food versus a restaurant. |
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| 14:46.37 | foxlit | Basically, to date, I've never seen the feature used. |
| 14:46.57 | foxlit | Not for battlegrounds, not for raids, not for random heroics, not for anything. |
| 14:47.01 | Lopeppeppy | Casual players use it more than highly dedicated players in organized guilds. |
| 14:47.38 | alestane | I used it regularly for a while. |
| 14:47.49 | foxlit | From where I'm standing, it just looks like no one is considering it to even be an option. |
| 14:48.04 | clever | i think the major selling point of vent, is the memory/cpu footprint |
| 14:48.18 | alestane | And if it really were being totally ignored, or used by 0.2% of the population, they'd probably turn it off to save money. |
| 14:48.23 | clever | i dont want to load up a 3gig game just to ask a guild-mate 3 questions |
| 14:48.33 | Lopeppeppy | foxlit, you may not stand in the same field as those who use it, is all. |
| 14:48.38 | foxlit | Thus it's mildly disappointing that while they could've made voice chat awesome (like providing an overlay that works), I'm stuck with Mumblefail. |
| 14:48.48 | clever | if i want to just talk to another guild-mate, or ask them if they want to run heroics, a 3rd-party app is perfect |
| 14:49.04 | TC-Laptop | plus it can be used for other games |
| 14:49.09 | angayelle | you'll be able to ask them soon with mobile guild chat, provided you pay for it, ehe |
| 14:49.32 | clever | angayelle: same idea with that, and atleast blizzard is fixing it |
| 14:49.42 | foxlit | Lopeppeppy: indeed, but meh, I want features designed for me :P |
| 14:49.49 | clever | so i want to boot up the gaming system just to ask /guild if anybody is online? |
| 14:49.52 | clever | do* |
| 14:49.58 | angayelle | i don't want to pay for it as much i want to use it |
| 14:50.22 | clever | id happily pay for the remote auction house tool |
| 14:50.25 | clever | except it can only be paid via credit card |
| 14:50.30 | clever | i dont have one |
| 14:50.55 | alestane | There are a lot of features in the game that cater to specific crowds. And the casual crowd is probably the largest as well as the most under-represented, because they're the least committed and the least organized. But anything that caters to them adds a lot of value to the game. |
| 14:51.16 | alestane | Just we don't care, because we're not them. |
| 14:51.17 | foxlit | [Just like it'd be nice to steal mac's video recording API for windows] |
| 14:51.24 | Ackis | I don't even think the voice chat caters to the casual crowd alestane |
| 14:52.04 | alestane | And you know something? It doesn't matter what you think. All our data is anecdotal, and all our talk is speculation. |
| 14:52.09 | alestane | are* |
| 14:52.16 | Ackis | ouch |
| 14:52.34 | alestane | We can debate endlessly about what's good or bad, but we have no idea what's actually being used. |
| 14:52.40 | alestane | And I say that about myself as well. |
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| 14:52.51 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:52.54 | Ackis | so what you're saying is I'm right and you're wrong? ;) |
| 14:53.11 | Ackis | it's worth the thwap I'm going to get! |
| 14:53.12 | clever | alestane: blizzard can probly use warden to get stats on who is using vent and who is using mumble |
| 14:53.15 | alestane | I'm saying we're both talking out our asses. |
| 14:53.22 | clever | but are they willing to share those stats? |
| 14:54.04 | alestane | They might know who is using those 3rd-party apps. I'm SURE they know who's using the in-game chat, how much, and what their playing habits are. |
| 14:54.40 | alestane | At least roughly. |
| 14:54.41 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 14:54.54 | clever | ive heard of one case, where warden automaticaly suspended an account because the system had a trojan |
| 14:55.02 | clever | before the trojan had a chance to do anything nasty |
| 14:55.18 | Lunessa | You know, the in-game voice chat isn't that bad for voice quality, considering. However, it's pretty limited when it comes to grouping people together since it only goes to your group or raid. |
| 14:55.43 | Lunessa | clever: Sounds like fiction and/or FUD to me. |
| 14:55.46 | Ackis | wishes I had a chroot environment in Windows :( |
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| 14:58.54 | Lopeppeppy | Retail therapy, ahoy!!! |
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| 14:59.05 | alestane | Going shopping? |
| 14:59.41 | Lopeppeppy | I have needed a new shower head for a long while. I need to DO something. I clean when unhappy. 1+1+1= new shower head! |
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| 15:02.40 | cogwheel | yay |
| 15:02.43 | cogwheel | we need a new one too |
| 15:02.59 | cogwheel | i borked it a couple weeks ago :( |
| 15:04.44 | cogwheel | :( |
| 15:04.48 | cogwheel | https://twitter.com/#!/BBCBreaking/status/56004704790003712 |
| 15:05.03 | Ackis | wasn't that a few weeks ago? |
| 15:05.56 | cogwheel | not unless twitter is chronologically and magnitudinally challenged... |
| 15:06.29 | TC-Laptop | no, it's valid |
| 15:06.31 | TC-Laptop | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0002ksa.php |
| 15:06.38 | cogwheel | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13005110 |
| 15:06.55 | cogwheel | yeah i was trying to make fun of Ackis' reading comprehension |
| 15:07.02 | cogwheel | it's too early i guess |
| 15:07.06 | Adys | what reading comprehension? |
| 15:09.09 | TC-Laptop | because they obviously needed another quake. |
| 15:09.37 | karl_w_w | anyone happen to know the blizzid of the talent trees? |
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| 15:09.47 | TC-Laptop | there was a 6.5 in mexico today |
| 15:09.56 | cogwheel | FU EARTH |
| 15:11.45 | TC-Laptop | in the last 5 days there have been 5 6.0 or greater quakes. |
| 15:12.10 | cogwheel | don't tell the doomsday fundies |
| 15:12.37 | cogwheel | i'm sure they're already jizzing over the latest quake as proof that god is punishing those evil atheist japs |
| 15:12.49 | Ackis | 2012 |
| 15:13.01 | cogwheel | Ackis: no that's the new-agers |
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| 15:15.06 | alestane | I would sort of expect that one earthquake could raise the likelihood of others. |
| 15:15.44 | angayelle | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boobquake wicked women |
| 15:16.11 | cogwheel | if that's the case it should've been a cartoon tsunami then... |
| 15:16.15 | angayelle | they striked again |
| 15:23.22 | Kraps|w | erfkwayk |
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| 15:36.44 | clever | angayelle: lol |
| 15:42.46 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.08 | Dagmar | I'm never going to be able to use pokemon global link at this rate |
| 15:43.10 | cogwheel | ~lart earth |
| 15:43.10 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives earth a good jolt |
| 15:43.19 | alestane | How apropos. |
| 15:43.24 | cogwheel | purl, i'm not sure that is very helpful |
| 15:43.24 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, cogwheel |
| 15:43.32 | cogwheel | i know, right? |
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| 15:50.40 | bluspacecow | cog i took the long way around to somewhere that was right around the corner from my place on your minecraft server |
| 15:50.55 | bluspacecow | ie train back to central then train out |
| 15:51.18 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 15:52.58 | Kraps|w | is this #wowuidev or #minecraftwecanbuildit ? |
| 15:53.09 | Kraps|w | takes a stroll |
| 15:55.04 | ckknight | minecraft ftw |
| 15:56.46 | alestane | I liked that in yesterday's XKCD. |
| 15:57.32 | alestane | "Scientists!" |
| 15:57.44 | alestane | "...but we're playing minecraft...fine..." |
| 16:00.03 | cogwheel | 07:27 <+alestane> My guild is largely inactive and I don't spend enough time playing to actively seek another one. |
| 16:00.07 | karl_w_w | oh bravo |
| 16:00.08 | cogwheel | lolwut? |
| 16:00.10 | cogwheel | imo :P |
| 16:00.21 | karl_w_w | isnt windows explorer crashng just something we can all enjoy? |
| 16:00.59 | alestane | Well, yes, I could always spend more time on KT. |
| 16:01.16 | alestane | But I still have a long hard leveling road ahead of me over there. |
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| 16:01.45 | alestane | And I'm not moving over all the toons who are 78+ any time soon. |
| 16:01.51 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 16:03.04 | Kraps|w | karl_w_w: its a moment of joy in this dark world tbh |
| 16:03.10 | cogwheel | we've got fast track rank 2 ;) |
| 16:04.26 | alestane | My Bloodhoof guild is actually level 9 IIRC. |
| 16:04.38 | alestane | But they've sloped off after the initial Cata surge. |
| 16:04.47 | Adys | alestane: US? |
| 16:04.50 | alestane | US. |
| 16:04.56 | Adys | that's a shame |
| 16:05.01 | cogwheel | we're almost level 16 |
| 16:05.06 | alestane | Why, on you on Bloodhoof EU |
| 16:05.07 | cogwheel | 17* |
| 16:05.10 | Adys | alestane: aye |
| 16:05.19 | Adys | my guild is level 22 or 23 by now i think |
| 16:05.23 | Adys | but nobody logs anymore |
| 16:05.28 | angayelle | same |
| 16:05.42 | angayelle | but we still log |
| 16:05.56 | Kraps|w | cogwheel: whats new in Totem? |
| 16:06.55 | cogwheel | epicz! |
| 16:07.17 | Kraps|w | orly |
| 16:07.37 | cogwheel | yeah we've been raiding fairly regularly for a casual guild... |
| 16:08.02 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:08.20 | cogwheel | grabs the trout and fries it with herbs and spices |
| 16:08.34 | cogwheel | omnomnom |
| 16:08.39 | Fisker | i have a better solution for not enough tanks queuing cogwheel |
| 16:08.45 | Fisker | randomly assign healers and dps as tanks |
| 16:10.19 | cogwheel | heroics sucking for tanking means more room for me in raid tanking. raid tanking is relaxing compared to heroics |
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| 16:11.41 | Fisker | why solve the issue when you can mend the symptom? |
| 16:11.59 | Ackis | hey Fisker click this please http://ackis.myminicity.com/tra |
| 16:12.15 | cogwheel | Fisker: entirely dependent on which takes more effort ;) |
| 16:12.34 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:12.40 | Fisker | are you blackmailing me? |
| 16:12.48 | Ackis | yes! |
| 16:12.57 | Fisker | then i will click it |
| 16:13.02 | Ackis | wewt! |
| 16:14.54 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 16:15.19 | Kraps|w | Fisker: HOW do you sovle it? |
| 16:15.27 | Kraps|w | solve* |
| 16:16.26 | karl_w_w | just started playing and i already know whats wrong with sonic the hedgehog 4 |
| 16:16.45 | Kraps|w | you want faceroll dungeons back Fisker? |
| 16:16.51 | TC-Laptop | karl_w_w: it sucks? |
| 16:17.14 | karl_w_w | more basic than that |
| 16:17.30 | cogwheel | well, the good news is that the tsunami alert was lifted from the new quake |
| 16:17.30 | karl_w_w | he stops moving the moment you stop pressing a direction |
| 16:17.37 | cogwheel | bad news is another nuke plant may be in jeopardy |
| 16:18.06 | cogwheel | http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/04/74-magnitude-earthquake-hits-japan-tsunami-alert-issued/1 |
| 16:18.33 | Fisker | Kraps|w they're still faceroll |
| 16:18.39 | Fisker | now you just have to faceroll longer |
| 16:20.12 | Lunessa | alestane: Please do come play more on KT. |
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| 16:27.55 | Kraps|w | DPSing in pugs needs to be as difficult as tanking and healing |
| 16:28.13 | alestane | Somewhere around here is the entrance to the Tranquil Wash. |
| 16:29.24 | Fisker | alestane |
| 16:29.42 | Fisker | why Kraps|w ? |
| 16:30.02 | Kraps|w | why not |
| 16:30.10 | Kraps|w | parity |
| 16:30.28 | Fisker | well first of tanking isn't really that hard |
| 16:30.37 | Fisker | and DPS'ing isn't really that easy anyway |
| 16:30.52 | zenzelezz | "Magnitude 7.4 earthquake hits off Japan, tsunami warning for northeast coast issued according to broadcaster NHK" |
| 16:31.04 | zenzelezz | crap, I see I'm an hour late |
| 16:31.16 | cogwheel | yeah... the tsunami warning was already lifted |
| 16:32.13 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: that doesn't surprise me, those alerts seem automatic |
| 16:32.46 | cogwheel | yeah, better to err on the side of not dying |
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| 16:34.13 | alcaras| | Is there an event that fires when a player uses an ability? Or do I have parse the Combat Log events for that particular ability? specifically, i'm trying to detect when pestilence is used (not even sure if it has a combat log event) |
| 16:35.36 | Kraps|w | press x to jason |
| 16:36.15 | cogwheel | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events |
| 16:36.20 | cogwheel | search for UNIT_SPELLCAST |
| 16:36.56 | alcaras| | ty |
| 16:38.25 | Fisker | so cogwheel |
| 16:38.27 | Fisker | so. |
| 16:38.33 | cogwheel | sew Fisker |
| 16:38.35 | cogwheel | sew. |
| 16:38.40 | Fisker | sew? |
| 16:38.54 | Kraps|w | tso |
| 16:39.15 | Fisker | is it me or did they remove the authenticator input from the loginscreen again? |
| 16:39.19 | Fisker | on 4.1.0 ptr? |
| 16:39.30 | cogwheel | Fisker: it only shows up if you use it once maybe? |
| 16:39.43 | cogwheel | i haven't PTRed in many patches |
| 16:40.12 | Fisker | last time i checked it still pops up with the authenticator box even though remember my account is checked |
| 16:40.27 | cogwheel | mmk |
| 16:42.04 | Fisker | what says kd3 the prodigal child? |
| 16:42.47 | Fisker | damnit cogwheel |
| 16:43.08 | Fisker | now they uploaded, i mean showed the mythbusters episode in HD |
| 16:43.23 | Fisker | but i already legally watched it in SD :( |
| 16:43.51 | Kraps|w | i lol @ u Fisker |
| 16:44.21 | amro | oh no, the glennpocalypse is upon us |
| 16:45.24 | Dagmar | Please tell me Beck isn't running for pres |
| 16:45.49 | amro | http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/380314/april-04-2011/the-glennpocalypse |
| 16:47.36 | Kraps|w | Please tell me Beck IS running for pres |
| 16:47.48 | Kraps|w | also trump |
| 16:48.04 | Kraps|w | it'll be the funnest campaign ever |
| 16:48.16 | Fisker | funnest? |
| 16:48.18 | amro | Trump 2012 - I'm hired |
| 16:49.16 | Kraps|w | yes Fisker |
| 16:49.17 | zenzelezz | I could see Trump as president |
| 16:49.55 | zenzelezz | "Now Mr. Cheney; your team was obliterated in Iraq. I don't even wanna hear your explanation. You're fired!" |
| 16:50.28 | amro | yes, along with a gold-plated monument, and diamond studded capitol rotunda |
| 16:51.20 | zenzelezz | George, Kathryn, what do you think? |
| 16:55.30 | Fisker | i killed a guy Kraps|w |
| 16:55.52 | Kraps|w | grats Fisker |
| 16:56.02 | Fisker | thanks |
| 16:56.09 | Kraps|w | reported to the local PD |
| 16:56.42 | dardack_ | question: I may have asked this long time ago when first writing my LootWhatIWant addon, but CloseLoot() when used on just coin mobs, throws this error: ADDON_ACTION_BLOCKED in function `CloseLoot', it seems to happen only when coins exist on the mob. Is there a way to fix this? |
| 16:56.48 | bluspacecow | PD ? Pedophile dog ? |
| 16:56.50 | ckknight | I like that Trump lacks social conservative values |
| 16:56.51 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:57.15 | Kraps|w | he does? |
| 16:58.14 | ckknight | for all intensive purposes |
| 16:58.26 | ckknight | (cwhatididthar?) |
| 16:58.28 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:58.41 | bluspacecow | intents and purposes ? |
| 16:58.44 | ckknight | yeah. |
| 16:58.54 | ckknight | but yeah, I think he lacks a moral compass and is driven primarily by profit, which are good qualities in a leader. |
| 16:59.27 | zenzelezz | you're right; Bush's problem was his moral compass |
| 16:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | I think that was Clinton's problem too. *innocent* |
| 16:59.51 | Kraps|w | lacking a moral compass is a good quality in a leader? |
| 16:59.52 | Lopeppeppy | That old compass gets to waving around, causes all sorts of problems... |
| 17:00.04 | bluspacecow | i thought his dick was the problem |
| 17:00.06 | ckknight | Kraps|w: yeah, it lets one be dictated by rationality rather than emotion and morality. |
| 17:00.07 | bluspacecow | wait that was clinton |
| 17:00.21 | zenzelezz | bluspacecow: well, Dick was a problem for Bush too |
| 17:00.49 | ckknight | Bush turned too many things into a moral issue, things that shouldn't've been. The war, for instance. |
| 17:00.54 | ckknight | and education. |
| 17:01.01 | ckknight | no child left behind my ass. |
| 17:01.02 | Dagmar | Bush made shit up. |
| 17:01.14 | Fisker | so bluspacecow |
| 17:01.22 | Fisker | did you get me that 25 year gamecard? |
| 17:01.28 | bluspacecow | noes |
| 17:01.31 | Dagmar | Bush lied, and lied, and then he lied some more. |
| 17:01.32 | bluspacecow | i has none |
| 17:01.36 | bluspacecow | *shows hands* |
| 17:01.42 | Dagmar | Because, AND I QUOTE "It's not a crime to lie to the American people." |
| 17:01.50 | Dagmar | ^ THAT he said to CNN. I saw them air it. |
| 17:01.52 | ckknight | Dagmar: making things up doesn't matter if it's for a proper moral/ethical purposes or for some "higher purpose" |
| 17:01.56 | Dagmar | He said it on the White Hous front fucking lawn. |
| 17:01.58 | Fisker | i saw your jedi mindtrick stuff there bluspacecow |
| 17:02.03 | pantsninja | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isUFXNYT80k |
| 17:02.16 | pantsninja | April Fools joke on news station |
| 17:02.18 | bluspacecow | *waggles hands* |
| 17:02.26 | Fisker | *immune* |
| 17:02.28 | bluspacecow | pantsninja ? awesome nick |
| 17:02.37 | pantsninja | Thank you! |
| 17:02.43 | Fisker | anyway bluspacecow |
| 17:02.44 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: he probably learned from Nixon |
| 17:02.50 | Dagmar | Doubt it. |
| 17:02.59 | Dagmar | Nixon at least had the balls to admit when he'd been caught. |
| 17:02.59 | bluspacecow | i sleep |
| 17:03.07 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on fisker* |
| 17:03.08 | Fisker | i just learned from Numb3rs that if we steal like 20000 gamecards we'll be able to figure out the code for a 25-year gamecard |
| 17:03.14 | cogwheel | ckknight: stem cells |
| 17:03.18 | Fisker | should be easy right? |
| 17:03.18 | zenzelezz | yeah, but he also said "Well, when the President does it, that means that it is not illegal." (not sure if he said it before or after; I'm not *that* into Nixon) |
| 17:03.22 | ckknight | cogwheel: sounds delicious. |
| 17:03.25 | bluspacecow | zzzzzzzzzzz |
| 17:05.03 | Kraps|w | irc is like 2 boats Fisker |
| 17:05.20 | Fisker | yeah Kraps |
| 17:05.21 | Fisker | ino |
| 17:05.36 | Fisker | btw |
| 17:05.39 | Fisker | what's a sandtrooper? |
| 17:06.09 | bluspacecow | stormtrooper + accident in glue factory + desert planet |
| 17:09.43 | karl_w_w | Antiarc: is Zoom! still working? or made unnecessary by blizz? |
| 17:09.48 | Fisker | no! |
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| 17:11.36 | TC-Laptop | fisker so you would steal 1666 years worth of 1 month game cards to figure out a 25 year one......nice. |
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| 17:13.57 | alestane | lu> string.match("lkjgf*oiuy", "^[^*]") |
| 17:14.02 | alestane | lua> string.match("lkjgf*oiuy", "^[^*]") |
| 17:14.02 | lua_bot | alestane: l |
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| 17:14.12 | alestane | lua> string.match("lkjgf*oiuy", "^[^*]*") |
| 17:14.13 | lua_bot | alestane: lkjgf |
| 17:15.43 | Fisker | sounds like a plan TC-Laptop |
| 17:15.52 | cogwheel | Ackis: bwahahaha |
| 17:16.08 | Ackis | ? |
| 17:16.13 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isUFXNYT80k |
| 17:16.23 | Ackis | oh lol |
| 17:21.55 | bluspacecow | ni ni fiskery fisker |
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| 17:26.40 | dardack_ | ok my addon is getting taint from looting in combat, is this a bug on blizz's side that you can loot in combat, but you can't call it in combat without producing taint? |
| 17:27.46 | zenzelezz | your own addon is doing the looting? |
| 17:30.29 | cogwheel | you can't loot with an addon... looting is an effect of TURNORACTION binding while the mouse is over a lootable corpse |
| 17:31.54 | Ackis | http://marketplace.xbox.com/Product/Hexic-HD/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584107d1?cid=SLink free xbox game |
| 17:32.13 | cogwheel | does it come with a free XBox? |
| 17:32.18 | cogwheel | 'cause that's the only way i'm getting one... |
| 17:32.44 | cogwheel | (and not for lack of funds) |
| 17:32.58 | Ackis | :P |
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| 17:33.07 | Ackis | go back to your minecraft! newb! |
| 17:33.38 | Ackis | hah |
| 17:33.41 | Ackis | speachless! |
| 17:33.54 | cogwheel | no time for speech... minecraft |
| 17:33.55 | Fisker | i awesome |
| 17:35.43 | Lunessa | ... but ... minecraft |
| 17:36.10 | zenzelezz | those Chilean guys sure inspired people |
| 17:36.11 | Lopeppeppy | Mime-craft! |
| 17:36.25 | Lopeppeppy | If a mime dies in Minecraft, does anyone build a railroad to the corpse? |
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| 17:39.22 | cogwheel | no but they can sure pretend! |
| 17:39.31 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 17:40.01 | cogwheel | how was your retail therapy? |
| 17:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | I have achieved a shower head, tape, and a wrench of doom! |
| 17:41.57 | Lopeppeppy | After work, I shall see if I qualify as a clever tool using mammal or not. |
| 17:42.02 | cogwheel | woot |
| 17:42.33 | cogwheel | what if it turns out you're a clever tool using reptile? |
| 17:42.56 | cogwheel | will you be our new reptillian overlord? |
| 17:43.59 | Lopeppeppy | I will proudly serve the people! |
| 17:44.08 | Lopeppeppy | (they're especially good on garlic toast...) |
| 17:44.14 | alestane | WIth duck sauce? |
| 17:44.40 | Lopeppeppy | I think a liberal dose of WD40 will suffice for the shower head, alestane. Duck sauce would only confuse it with culinary aspirations. I don't want it trying to boil me into soup. |
| 17:45.21 | alestane | I was making a play on serving the people. You beat me to it. |
| 17:45.46 | alestane | Kat is also fond of that phrase... "I am a tool-using mammal! I win!" |
| 17:46.32 | olafski | great ackis |
| 17:46.34 | olafski | I already had that :( |
| 17:46.36 | Lopeppeppy | I hope to make that claim myself tonight. Do not want to break the plumbing. :) |
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| 17:49.33 | Fisker | fire |
| 17:54.46 | alestane | I can't decide if my new priestess should be an alchemist or a scribe, Lopeppeppy. |
| 17:55.09 | Fisker | sucks to be you alestane |
| 17:55.30 | Fisker | not as much as it sucks to be blizzard who has to store passwords in plaintext :3 |
| 17:55.55 | alestane | I'll keep that in mind should I be moved to ask for your opinion on something, Fisker. |
| 17:56.23 | Fisker | you already got my opinion alestane |
| 17:56.26 | Fisker | no need to ask for it |
| 17:56.29 | Fisker | that's just silly |
| 17:57.34 | alestane | And since I already have one that I didn't need, I'll save it up for later. |
| 17:58.15 | Ackis | why do they have to store passwords in plaintext Fisker? |
| 17:58.27 | cogwheel | because france is dumb |
| 17:58.53 | cogwheel | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12983734 |
| 17:59.05 | Ackis | that was just that you can't store them in hashes I thought |
| 17:59.09 | Fisker | France wants to make a law where companies will be forced to store names, addresses, passwords, etc. for up to a year |
| 17:59.15 | cogwheel | and no, they don't have to store in plain text, they just have to be able to be reversible |
| 17:59.32 | Fisker | might as well be the same thing cogwheel |
| 17:59.43 | cogwheel | yar |
| 18:00.16 | Ackis | well storing passwords as a hash isn't exactly the best thing to do in the world even if it is "accepted" |
| 18:00.59 | foxlit | good idea, imo? |
| 18:01.25 | foxlit | People with read access to your code and data shouldn't be able to get access to other people's accounts. |
| 18:01.29 | Ackis | it's better than plain text I'll give you that, but not by much |
| 18:02.42 | foxlit | [basically, encryption isn't much help either.] |
| 18:03.15 | foxlit | Time for browsers to support ssl client certificates, imo. |
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| 18:04.51 | Ackis | http://liquidcode.org/~lostman/wow/dkeserver.se/stuff/angwe/f33.jpg |
| 18:05.32 | Lunessa | If there is no cheese in the afterlife... I'm not going. |
| 18:06.10 | Kraps|w | i'll bring it Lunessa |
| 18:10.32 | olafski | ackis: you're reading that angwe site too? :D |
| 18:10.44 | Kraps|w | i like cottage and american |
| 18:11.24 | Ackis | olafski: lol yeah |
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| 18:13.08 | olafski | I'm about 2/3 through |
| 18:13.11 | olafski | opened it at work today |
| 18:14.40 | Lunessa | Kraps|w: Cheese is quite possibly my favorite food. |
| 18:15.17 | Kraps|w | heh, its quite staple-ish for me |
| 18:15.40 | cogwheel | i bet none of you went by Fromage in High School French class |
| 18:17.42 | Ackis | http://liquidcode.org/~lostman/wow/dkeserver.se/stuff/angwe/19.jpg haha |
| 18:20.01 | Kraps|w | Ackis: what was he doing? |
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| 18:23.03 | Ackis | camped menethil harbor for months and months |
| 18:23.11 | Ackis | 60 orc rogue but he also had an alliance account |
| 18:23.18 | Ackis | if it was red, it was dead |
| 18:23.23 | Ackis | http://liquidcode.org/~lostman/wow/dkeserver.se/stuff/angwe/ |
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| 18:25.22 | Kraps|w | months and months? |
| 18:26.13 | Ackis | maybe longer |
| 18:26.51 | Kraps|w | wow |
| 18:30.55 | Kraps|w | sounds like Fisker |
| 18:31.52 | Ackis | hey Fisker I'm blackmailing you |
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| 18:35.40 | mikma | ackis: why u so jersk |
| 18:35.49 | mikma | stop ganking people |
| 18:36.26 | Fisker | 2222rage |
| 18:37.09 | Fisker | if linux didn't suck i would stop using windows |
| 18:37.14 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/I3T7r.png :( |
| 18:38.38 | karl_w_w | and druids here with a resto spec? |
| 18:38.51 | karl_w_w | and able to test a macro :P |
| 18:39.39 | mikma | fisker: Windows 7 Loader v2.0.0, go. |
| 18:40.04 | Fisker | why would i pirate a windows? |
| 18:41.05 | mikma | cause you |
| 18:41.11 | Lopeppeppy | Just... taught...sheeple... about... shift-enter!!!!! /wristwristwrist |
| 18:41.31 | foxlit | wth? |
| 18:41.33 | Fisker | no! |
| 18:41.40 | Fisker | a |
| 18:42.08 | Kraps|w | what does that do? |
| 18:42.13 | Kraps|w | dont kill me |
| 18:42.56 | Kraps|w | but really |
| 18:43.02 | cogwheel | makes line breaks instead of paragraph breaks |
| 18:43.07 | cogwheel | imo |
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| 18:43.39 | Lunessa | Peppy - I routinely have to teach people how to left-click. You know, the default mouse-button? |
| 18:43.41 | foxlit | Madness, you force a line break by using \\ |
| 18:46.31 | Lopeppeppy | They make me... want to do horrific things today, Lunessa. I'm so seriously on my last spoon.... |
| 18:46.42 | Lunessa | MDK! |
| 18:47.17 | Kraps|w | Lopeppeppy: thats the point, there is no spoon |
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| 18:48.36 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, do you know spoon theory? |
| 18:49.01 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.butyoudontlooksick.com/articles/written-by-christine/the-spoon-theory-written-by-christine-miserandino/ |
| 18:49.49 | Lopeppeppy | Take out "lupus", substitute your own ailment or current thing causing enormous ongoing stress. |
| 18:57.46 | kd3|netbook | ah, the joys of registration time |
| 18:57.50 | Kraps|w | well Lopeppeppy |
| 18:58.03 | kd3|netbook | had to get prereq overrides from *three* different departments to sign up for classes next term |
| 18:58.13 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew, kd3, that stinks mightily. |
| 18:58.15 | Kraps|w | firstly she needs to go see Dr House |
| 18:58.35 | Kraps|w | secondly, that was fucking amazing |
| 18:58.51 | cogwheel | Kraps|w: so he can tell her it's not lupus? |
| 18:58.59 | Kraps|w | lol |
| 18:59.02 | Lopeppeppy | It's never lupus. *smile* |
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| 18:59.23 | alestane | The Spoon Theory is a good piece of thinking. |
| 18:59.32 | Lopeppeppy | But yes, I have always found that essay to be an amazing way to explain the limits of being chronically ill (with whatever condition you may have). |
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| 19:06.32 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/IFdcZ |
| 19:09.25 | Fisker | i'm so bored haste |
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| 19:14.59 | Jamash | That's a good article Lopeppeppy, I'll remember it |
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| 19:15.54 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks, Jamash. |
| 19:18.46 | karl_w_w | if you go r="h"..r it'll complain if r is nil won't it |
| 19:19.09 | Jamash | r="h"..(r or "") |
| 19:19.31 | karl_w_w | too many characters :P |
| 19:20.48 | karl_w_w | think I've got it now |
| 19:23.39 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 19:24.35 | karl_w_w | t=GetTalentTabInfo(GetPrimaryTalentTree()) z=floor(t/10+.2) if t==262 or z==76 or t==813 or z==83 then r="h" else r="d" end if z==18 or z==75 then r=r.."s" <- super cereal maths to get it to fit into a macro |
| 19:24.44 | karl_w_w | talent spec detection ftw? |
| 19:26.04 | kd3|netbook | ooh. snow+rain coming back in 1.5. pistons in 1.6ish |
| 19:26.21 | karl_w_w | tickles Fisker with a pencil sharpener |
| 19:26.34 | Lopeppeppy | wonders if kd3 was speaking english just now. |
| 19:26.51 | kd3|netbook | minecraftish? minecraftese? |
| 19:26.55 | kd3|netbook | ponders |
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| 19:27.06 | karl_w_w | minecraftian imo |
| 19:27.48 | Adys | kd3|netbook: pistons confirmed? or just basing on the last tweets? |
| 19:28.01 | Adys | i want better rails/redstone :( |
| 19:28.08 | kd3|netbook | just jeb_'s tweets. but that's confirmation enough |
| 19:28.19 | Adys | redstone on walls, rail bridges, 3-direction switches |
| 19:28.20 | kd3|netbook | he also saw the "making rails with gold instead of iron for boosters" idea |
| 19:28.30 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, minecraftian. I get it now. |
| 19:28.35 | Fisker | hey kd3|netbook |
| 19:28.37 | Adys | kd3|netbook: where? |
| 19:28.44 | Adys | didnt see that one |
| 19:29.25 | Jamash | karl_w_w: what does that horrific macro accomplish? |
| 19:29.48 | Fisker | btw kd3|netbook |
| 19:29.53 | Kraps|w | hey Fisker |
| 19:30.00 | Fisker | did you notice they removed the authenticator input from the login screen? |
| 19:30.12 | kd3|netbook | sec |
| 19:30.14 | Fisker | hey Kraps|w |
| 19:30.30 | karl_w_w | Jamash: in it's full form it says your role, d for dps and h for heals, and whether you can stealth, in bg chat |
| 19:30.33 | Kraps|w | my ipod |
| 19:30.38 | karl_w_w | for some premades we run |
| 19:31.13 | kd3|netbook | adys; http://twitter.com/jeb_/status/55523573774823424 |
| 19:31.38 | Fisker | you have no ipod Kraps|w |
| 19:31.48 | Kraps|w | i do Fisker |
| 19:33.06 | Kraps|w | why do you hate apple Fisker |
| 19:33.12 | Adys | hehe |
| 19:33.14 | Adys | kd3: nice |
| 19:33.23 | Fisker | because apple sucks Kraps|w |
| 19:33.23 | Fisker | and no |
| 19:33.25 | Fisker | you no have ipod |
| 19:33.31 | Adys | and it'd give gold an use for once |
| 19:34.05 | Kraps|w | they suck for not having flash |
| 19:34.06 | kd3|netbook | my first thought when I saw that tweet |
| 19:34.27 | ckknight | Flash is bad, mkay? |
| 19:34.33 | Fisker | flash is awesome |
| 19:34.48 | jnwhiteh | fun fun fun fun |
| 19:34.48 | Adys | someone kickban Fisker |
| 19:35.04 | jnwhiteh | nah, too easy |
| 19:35.13 | Adys | give him a wedgie? |
| 19:35.15 | Adys | do somethingh |
| 19:35.25 | Kraps|w | how could flash be bad? you need it to play facebook games! |
| 19:35.35 | Adys | i get your point and im inclined to agree |
| 19:35.40 | cogwheel | rurz |
| 19:35.53 | cogwheel | (apparently that's engrish for lulz) |
| 19:36.13 | cogwheel | (and Dvorak for "your hand is in the wrong spot, nub") |
| 19:36.43 | Jamash | wiigii! |
| 19:37.15 | kd3|netbook | an it's walky fan? |
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| 19:39.48 | Jamash | sure why not |
| 19:39.59 | Jamash | I was more referring to the origin of the word |
| 19:42.54 | Adys | Simple question in the conspiracy category |
| 19:43.06 | Adys | is youtube making its flash player shittier in order to get people to switch to the html5 one? |
| 19:43.14 | Adys | i mean i get it if they're doing that |
| 19:43.28 | Adys | but damn, it's getting worse and worse |
| 19:44.11 | Fisker | youtube player is fine |
| 19:44.23 | Adys | bloody isnt |
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| 19:46.47 | Lunessa | I prefer using the HTML5 player where I can because I have several devices without Flash installed. |
| 19:47.08 | Adys | i try to as well, but their html5 player tends to be terrible |
| 19:47.13 | Lunessa | But I don't know that YouTube is deliberately degrading Flash performance to force a switch. |
| 19:47.41 | Adys | after letting a page idle a few hours, youtube videos are not interactible |
| 19:47.47 | cogwheel | hey Ackis: http://skepticblog.org/2011/04/06/global-warming-skeptic-changes-his-tune/ |
| 19:47.54 | Adys | (that said, after letting one idle a few minutes with flash, it crashes...) |
| 19:48.07 | Arrowmaster | why would they want people to use the html5 one over flash? |
| 19:48.10 | Lunessa | Adys: lulz. |
| 19:48.19 | Arrowmaster | or does the html5 one finally do ads? |
| 19:48.34 | Adys | Arrowmaster: it's the only explanation i can possibly have for the flash player getting shittier every day |
| 19:48.37 | Jamash | Video annotations are not supported in the HTML5 video player <--- poop |
| 19:48.40 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: HTML5 version has no licensing requirement? |
| 19:49.31 | Lunessa | If I were Google, I certainly wouldn't want to have to pay Adobe. |
| 19:50.04 | Adys | google wants people to use the html5 player |
| 19:50.06 | Adys | youtube doesnt |
| 19:50.24 | Jamash | youtube is google, sense, you don't make it |
| 19:50.33 | Adys | youtube has very little to do with google |
| 19:51.09 | Lunessa | Other than being wholly owned by them? |
| 19:51.15 | Adys | so? |
| 19:51.27 | Lunessa | And using google accounts for your YouTube login? |
| 19:51.32 | Adys | barely. |
| 19:51.44 | Adys | after five years, youtube accounts are still separate |
| 19:52.07 | Lunessa | I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am saying that Google is the hand that rocks the YouTube cradle. |
| 19:52.27 | Adys | youtube is one of the projects least managed by google |
| 19:52.30 | cogwheel | yes but we're talking abuot how they operate not what is at the core |
| 19:52.38 | Adys | even then |
| 19:52.54 | Adys | the final decisions are still taken by google, but day to day operations aren't |
| 19:53.36 | Adys | google has still not taken down Google Video, they barely finished converting it to pure search |
| 19:54.46 | zenzelezz | I dislike how you can't use a Google Apps account to login to Youtube |
| 19:54.58 | Lunessa | Google has a accretion disk of abandoned projects. |
| 19:55.13 | Adys | google video isn't an abandoned project |
| 19:55.15 | Jamash | and projects that should be abandoned (wave ololol) |
| 19:55.23 | Adys | wave has been abandoned |
| 19:55.30 | Jamash | oh good |
| 19:55.36 | Adys | around six months ago |
| 19:56.11 | Adys | they integrated most of the wave technology to google docs, which is pretty awesome |
| 19:56.36 | karl_w_w | you could already do most of wave in docs |
| 19:56.59 | Adys | if by "most of wave" you mean "writing stuff" yeah |
| 19:57.13 | Adys | realtime collaboration is "most of wave" and that wasn't in docs |
| 19:57.34 | karl_w_w | yes it was |
| 19:57.40 | Adys | no. |
| 19:57.44 | Adys | not until wave came along |
| 19:59.10 | Lunessa | I know, let's settle this my laying them out on the table and measuring them. Cairenn|afk and Lopeppeppy can be the judges. |
| 19:59.10 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Wave |
| 19:59.12 | Adys | It was first announced at the Google I/O conference on May 27, 2009 |
| 19:59.26 | Adys | First Look: Google Docs Gets Realtime Collaboration |
| 19:59.26 | Adys | April 15, 2010 10:29 AM |
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| 20:00.52 | karl_w_w | http://www.googletutor.com/real-time-collaboration-with-google-docs-and-spreadsheets/ |
| 20:01.21 | Adys | that's back when "real time" wasn't real time |
| 20:01.21 | karl_w_w | a year and a bit before wave |
| 20:01.40 | Adys | by "real time" it meant "show in the corner <foo has updated the document>" |
| 20:01.54 | Adys | not "have every word updated the very second they're written |
| 20:02.02 | Jamash | read the link brah |
| 20:02.04 | karl_w_w | which is why i said most of wave :P |
| 20:02.37 | Adys | karl_w_w: eh, it's a pretty big difference to me |
| 20:02.48 | Adys | realtime collab is the only reason i used wave |
| 20:03.04 | Adys | and it's still damn useful for common lists, brainstorm session etc |
| 20:03.11 | Jamash | docs had real real-time before wave even existed |
| 20:03.11 | karl_w_w | "Now both of you can view and edit that particular spreadsheet. Whats great is that each of you is assigned a color, and your cursor will appear on its cell on your screen as your color (usually green or blue), and the other person as a different color (blue, red, etc). You can actually see the other persons cursor move from one location to another as he navigates through the spreadsheet. So it really feels like both of you are editing t |
| 20:03.15 | Ackis | I was afk cogwheel... I was getting paid to poop! :D |
| 20:03.39 | zenzelezz | so you're doing fetish porn? |
| 20:03.47 | cogwheel | by canadian tax dollars, no less, right? |
| 20:03.50 | Adys | although tbh |
| 20:03.55 | Ackis | totally cogwheel :D |
| 20:04.00 | karl_w_w | wave was always overhyped |
| 20:04.01 | Adys | wave's problem was poor marketing above anything else |
| 20:04.10 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 20:04.19 | cogwheel | they needed to focus more on the protocol than the UI |
| 20:04.27 | Jamash | wave's problem was that it was a solution in search of a problem |
| 20:04.30 | Adys | by the end of its lifetime it was good enough by itself |
| 20:04.39 | olafski | jamash +1 |
| 20:04.45 | karl_w_w | Jamash has it |
| 20:04.58 | Fisker | disagreed Jamash! |
| 20:05.00 | karl_w_w | every1 was going this is so cool it's going to be so useful |
| 20:05.01 | zenzelezz | for me (an my friends) Wave's main problem was a lack of a clear purpose |
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| 20:05.08 | karl_w_w | and it never was |
| 20:05.12 | olafski | I read 5 different explanations and asked several people to explain what was so great and I still didn't see the point of wave :P |
| 20:05.12 | Adys | <generic sentence with wave in it> |
| 20:05.14 | Fisker | it needed to completely obliterate mail |
| 20:05.28 | Adys | olafski: because it wasnt "so great" |
| 20:05.32 | Adys | it was a good and useful tool |
| 20:05.42 | olafski | adys: meh.. it did a bunch of things that I could already do :/ |
| 20:05.47 | Adys | so? |
| 20:05.52 | Jamash | I thought Wave was going to be the bees knees, then I went to a google code camp and hacked on wave for a weekend, and realized it was really not designed with a specific goal, it was an all-singing all-dancing chat client |
| 20:05.57 | olafski | whoopdeedoo you can now hook translation bots into your conversations :/ |
| 20:06.06 | Adys | dude |
| 20:06.09 | Jamash | Fisker: totally agreed |
| 20:06.15 | Adys | translation bots arent a "wave killer feature" |
| 20:06.20 | karl_w_w | so we dont understand why people spoke about it like god's answer to collaboration |
| 20:06.20 | Adys | they're a possibility |
| 20:06.25 | olafski | no, I didn't really see a killer feature in there at all :P |
| 20:06.36 | Adys | that's like saying "addons in wow are useless because i dont need my unitframe to look any different" |
| 20:06.56 | olafski | adys: that's just one of the few things I remembered about wave =) |
| 20:07.21 | Adys | one of the things that went wrong with wave was to be a product by itself |
| 20:07.29 | Adys | as i said it's a great tool |
| 20:07.33 | Adys | look at google notebook |
| 20:07.45 | Adys | it's integrated to gmail now; it was never "that" popular as a product itself |
| 20:08.08 | Adys | they learned that: they released buzz as part of gmail 2 years later |
| 20:08.11 | Jamash | I've been thinking about the problem of all these disparate communications protocols (chat, email, usenet, web forums, irc, mailing lists) for years and I really thought Wave was going to try to work on the hard problems involved in coming up with a new paradigm (lolol he said paradigm) in text-based communication, but really it's just chat with widgets. |
| 20:09.35 | Jamash | protip: widgets are bad |
| 20:09.43 | Adys | your way of thinking is what went wrong with wave Jamash |
| 20:09.55 | olafski | I've never heard of google notebook.. I've seen buzz and don't know what it does =) |
| 20:10.05 | Jamash | I'm sorry for thinking Wave would be useful |
| 20:10.08 | Adys | it was doing just fine until a bunch of twats came along, twisting google's word and saying "WAVE IS GONNA REPLACE EMAIL!!!" |
| 20:10.10 | olafski | I did hear that google was going to allow us to filter websites from their results though.. wonder when that feature shows up for me |
| 20:10.26 | Jamash | olafski: only for Chrome users olol |
| 20:10.33 | olafski | I do have chrome though |
| 20:10.41 | Ackis | what's the haste cap for a holy priest again? number wise? |
| 20:10.41 | Adys | Jamash: i dont disagree with you, the communication "issue" exists |
| 20:10.42 | cogwheel | Adys: they said it themselves... they framed the announcement around "what would you do if you had to redesign e-mail today" |
| 20:10.46 | olafski | I assumed I can click some link next to a result? |
| 20:10.47 | Adys | but wave has *never* been a solution for it |
| 20:10.56 | Jamash | olafski: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef |
| 20:10.59 | olafski | ackis: with or without darkness? |
| 20:11.03 | Adys | cogwheel: twisting words. google said "Wave is what email would be if it had been designed today" |
| 20:11.10 | Ackis | olafski: with 3 points darkness |
| 20:11.10 | Adys | not "WAVE IS GONNA REPLACE EMAIL!!!!" |
| 20:11.12 | olafski | awesome jamash, thanks |
| 20:11.18 | olafski | 516 iirc ackis |
| 20:11.40 | cogwheel | Adys: agreed, but it's not very big of a twist |
| 20:11.42 | cogwheel | maybe a quarter turn |
| 20:11.47 | karl_w_w | where's that initial wave intro video everyone was watching at the time :P |
| 20:11.58 | cogwheel | the attitude surrounding it certainly had that implied, if only weakly |
| 20:12.29 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_UyVmITiYQ |
| 20:12.37 | karl_w_w | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHm28xrNX4 |
| 20:12.38 | Adys | cogwheel: in words maybe not, but then you got a bunch of cool-aid bags waiting and asking "why is the alpha of this product not replacing my day-to-day email comms?" |
| 20:13.04 | Adys | as i said, terrible marketing on google's side |
| 20:14.09 | olafski | one of the dutch tech sites mentioned last week that google was rumoured to be making a social network =( |
| 20:14.21 | Adys | lol |
| 20:14.27 | Jamash | ha |
| 20:14.34 | karl_w_w | yeah, he basically says, this is better than email, and it's going to let you do everything in one place |
| 20:14.47 | olafski | (didn't they already have a social network? I even have an account on it) |
| 20:14.52 | Adys | orkut |
| 20:14.52 | Jamash | he says it would be "magical" |
| 20:14.54 | karl_w_w | so he did say wave is gonna replace email :P |
| 20:14.56 | olafski | exactly |
| 20:15.01 | olafski | orkut.. where only brazilians live |
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| 20:16.08 | karl_w_w | orkut's biggest problem is it's name |
| 20:16.42 | olafski | that too |
| 20:16.46 | Adys | google stopped trying to make a social network |
| 20:16.54 | olafski | the last 3 letters mean something I wouldn't want to mention at work |
| 20:17.00 | Adys | instead it's making google accounts into a more socially-oriented platform |
| 20:17.05 | Adys | much smarter |
| 20:17.21 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 20:21.21 | cogwheel | http://drjimsthinkingshop.com/2011/04/create-a-creationist-lolcritter-win-a-dinosaur/ |
| 20:22.39 | cogwheel | olafski: would adding an N make it sound English and mean the same thing? |
| 20:22.49 | olafski | probably :) |
| 20:22.53 | olafski | if you add the n before the t |
| 20:23.16 | olafski | jamash: thanks a lot, now I can block those annoying "we copy msdn forum posts and mess up the layout and add a bunch of ads" sites :D |
| 20:23.27 | Jamash | woo |
| 20:24.20 | alestane | Ursula is actually chilling in the frame for a change! http://hmsc.oregonstate.edu/visitor/octocam |
| 20:25.27 | ckknight | alestane: you poor, unfortunate soul |
| 20:27.50 | alestane | THe ironic thing is that Ursula's helpers were a pair of morays. |
| 20:28.06 | alestane | Which generally devour octopodes every chance they get. |
| 20:29.32 | alestane | And even if they can't eat the whole thing, will rip off an arm or two. |
| 20:30.44 | ckknight | delicious. |
| 20:31.12 | cogwheel | yeah, who knew eels had such good taste? |
| 20:31.14 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 20:38.35 | Fisker | ckknight |
| 20:38.46 | ckknight | Fisker |
| 20:40.41 | Fisker | hmm |
| 20:40.42 | Fisker | however |
| 20:40.44 | Fisker | ckknight |
| 20:40.52 | ckknight | Fisker |
| 20:41.11 | Fisker | that is unfiar |
| 20:41.13 | Fisker | unfair* |
| 20:44.50 | foxlit | Fisker: "I regeringen har vi nøje overvejet sagen og finder, at en beskyttelsestid på 70 år vil være en fornuftig tilgang." |
| 20:45.39 | Fisker | i did it foxlit |
| 20:46.14 | foxlit | Strikes me they're moving it in the wrong direction |
| 20:46.52 | Fisker | i don't even know what it's for |
| 20:47.04 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:47.05 | Fisker | copyright |
| 20:47.06 | Fisker | lulz |
| 20:47.57 | Fisker | i learned recently that one of the main reasons you can't redownload music from itunes is because of those fucked up licensing rules apple have with the music industry |
| 20:48.08 | Fisker | good that we're catering for them fucking us over |
| 20:48.12 | Fisker | but hey, what else is new |
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| 21:09.51 | kd3|netbook | rofl, fark: "An unseasonable and not at all related to global warming storm is heading towards Southern California, plunging the region into bone chilling temperatures of almost 65 degrees [Scary]" |
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| 21:13.20 | nevcairiel | i will never understand how 65 can sound cold to anyone |
| 21:13.58 | alestane | I doubt it will ever sound cold to someone from Germany. |
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| 21:14.07 | nevcairiel | also, after googling what temperature that actually is, 65 isn't even cold |
| 21:14.13 | Jamash | dang alestane I was gonna make a celsius joke |
| 21:14.26 | alestane | It's about 19c, nevcairiel. |
| 21:14.33 | nevcairiel | i googled now :P |
| 21:14.40 | nevcairiel | thats nearly shorts and tshirt weather! |
| 21:14.42 | Jamash | OTOH if it was 65K that would be pretty chilly |
| 21:14.54 | alestane | And to those of us in the Atlantic NE, it's not. |
| 21:15.06 | ckknight | nevcairiel: my parents who live in Hawaii think that's cold because they're used to 80 degrees normally |
| 21:15.56 | alestane | Anyways, must go away now. |
| 21:22.13 | Kraps | i bought all the properties in project legacy |
| 21:22.24 | Kraps | go me |
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| 21:40.30 | Jamash | portalto 2? |
| 21:42.51 | Kraps | is the solution removing the LFG tool? |
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| 21:48.43 | Cide | anyone having problems connecting to us servers? |
| 21:48.52 | Primer | I did for a bit |
| 21:48.56 | Primer | seems auth is flaky |
| 21:49.00 | Cide | ok, cool |
| 21:51.24 | Primer | in fact, in-game it's showing that battle.net is down |
| 21:51.35 | Primer | I can't pull up my real id contacts or even the guild roster |
| 21:53.30 | Jamash | When red light starts blinking in your Turret's optic cavity, it is now in Arbitration Exclusion Mode. Clearly state the names of any and all friends and loved ones you would not like your Home Safety Turret to engage in crisis resolution with. REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR OWN NAME FIRST. |
| 21:54.46 | Adys | Cide! |
| 21:54.52 | Adys | i needed you the other day |
| 21:54.58 | Adys | i forgot what for. |
| 21:55.10 | ckknight | Jamash: portal? |
| 21:55.16 | Jamash | ckknight: yar |
| 21:55.23 | Lunessa | Jamash: Remember to enunciate. The system discards all names for which no match can be found. |
| 21:55.54 | Jamash | Lunessa: be sure to use plenty of lip and tongue action |
| 21:56.19 | Lunessa | Oh man, I'm going to need some "personal" time. |
| 21:57.04 | Jamash | http://www.d1041111.dotsterhost.com/mst3k/reviews_s03_ep313.html |
| 21:59.22 | Kraps | "crisis resolution" |
| 21:59.25 | Kraps | i like it |
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| 22:08.13 | Adys | so apparently |
| 22:08.27 | Adys | portal 2 2-pack is 75 euros, but only 47gbp (54 euros) |
| 22:08.31 | Adys | is this serious? |
| 22:08.51 | ckknight | it was 79.99 USD when I got the 2-pack |
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| 22:09.07 | Adys | thats 48gbp |
| 22:09.11 | Adys | ish |
| 22:12.51 | Adys | why do i have two extra copies of portal oO |
| 22:12.58 | Kraps | 11 carracks cost 11,000,000 |
| 22:15.26 | ckknight | Adys: you get free portal 1 codes |
| 22:15.35 | Adys | when? with portal 2? |
| 22:17.15 | TC-Laptop | yes |
| 22:19.44 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2568337#blog - already been chewed to death in here? |
| 22:21.26 | TC-Laptop | more or less |
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| 22:35.42 | kd3|netbook | whee; new build |
| 22:35.48 | kd3|netbook | starts his patch-fetcher script |
| 22:37.42 | Fisker | slaps kd3|netbook around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:38.08 | kd3|netbook | probably should've started it earlier day considering they always seem to patch on thursdays when I'm at school... |
| 22:38.25 | kd3|netbook | mm, big build. 17 megs |
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| 22:39.46 | kd3|netbook | zomg, scooped bibi? it's not up on the front page. build#13850 |
| 22:40.10 | Bibi | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2244-Patch-4.1-PTR-Notes-April-8th-Update-Patch-4.1-PTR-Build-13850 |
| 22:40.14 | Bibi | anything else? |
| 22:40.33 | kd3|netbook | hits refresh again |
| 22:40.36 | kd3|netbook | nope, still not there |
| 22:40.44 | Bibi | you're hitting the cache! :( |
| 22:40.53 | TC-Laptop | ctrl+F5 |
| 22:40.53 | Bibi | and I actually have to work on a news post, I don't just troll random people on IRC! :( |
| 22:41.08 | Bibi | TC-Laptop: your ctrl key doesn't have any effect on our serverside cache, nice try. |
| 22:41.12 | TC-Laptop | Bibi: so troll people you know |
| 22:41.28 | TC-Laptop | Bibi: you hve no idea of the power of my ctrl key. |
| 22:41.43 | Fisker | not 300% btw Bibi |
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| 22:43.27 | Kraps | Bibi: your website broke firefox |
| 22:43.43 | Bibi | anything breaks Firefox 4 |
| 22:43.44 | kd3|netbook | still wtb headless wow-patching |
| 22:43.48 | Bibi | youtube breaks Firefox 4 |
| 22:43.55 | Kraps | lol really? |
| 22:44.00 | Bibi | running a game on my 2nd monitor while I do anything in flash breaks Firefox 4 |
| 22:44.07 | kd3|netbook | I blame flash for that |
| 22:44.09 | Bibi | I'm anti-Chrome, and I might move to Chrome just because of Firefox 4 |
| 22:44.11 | Bibi | well |
| 22:44.13 | Bibi | it works fine on Chrome |
| 22:44.25 | kd3|netbook | still, blaming flash is always the right answer |
| 22:44.25 | Kraps | why didnt i think of that |
| 22:44.42 | Kraps | i have like 3 other browsers :( |
| 22:45.01 | Kraps | i was using my ipod |
| 22:45.21 | Bibi | kd3|netbook: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=638477#c129 |
| 22:45.24 | Bibi | Linus disagrees! |
| 22:45.44 | kd3|netbook | thinks he knows what that thread without even clicking |
| 22:45.50 | kd3|netbook | yup |
| 22:46.55 | Kraps | Honor is now purchasable from the Justice Commodities Vendor at 250 Honor per 375 Justice.Justice is now purchasable from the Honor Commodities Vendor at 250 Justice per 375 Honor.Conquest is now purchasable from the Valor vendor at 250 Conquest per 250 Valor. |
| 22:46.59 | Kraps | :o |
| 22:47.26 | ckknight | nice |
| 22:47.42 | kd3|netbook | o_O |
| 22:49.40 | kd3|netbook | ah, there we go. front page finally updated |
| 22:50.32 | Fisker | anyway kd3 |
| 22:50.33 | Kraps | Body and Soul now increases the target's movement speed by 30/60%, up from 12/30%. hoho |
| 22:50.34 | Fisker | kd3|netbook |
| 22:50.41 | kd3|netbook | hm? |
| 22:50.46 | Primer | hrmm, apparently youtube can't handle 5.1 audio stream |
| 22:50.47 | Fisker | why do you think tehy removed the authenticator box eh? |
| 22:50.54 | Cide | Kraps: unchanged |
| 22:51.13 | kd3|netbook | I dunno. I'll need to look at the gluexml to see |
| 22:51.14 | Kraps | what do you mean cide |
| 22:51.22 | kd3|netbook | is 30 miles away from his wow install |
| 22:51.22 | Cide | live is 30/60 |
| 22:51.31 | Fisker | Bibi doesn't like me :( |
| 22:51.42 | Bibi | nobody likes you |
| 22:51.48 | Fisker | apparently 450 stamina is up from "300%" stamina |
| 22:51.58 | Fisker | gotta be like level 20 for that to be true |
| 22:52.00 | Kraps | i lol'd |
| 22:52.12 | kd3|netbook | ooh, sanity for the graphics sliders |
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| 22:52.32 | Fisker | they've had that before |
| 22:52.36 | Fisker | what makes them more sane? |
| 22:52.59 | Kraps | QQ over the gem price change, wow |
| 22:53.01 | kd3|netbook | before you had no indication of what the limiting factor was if you just moved the big slider up top |
| 22:53.37 | Fisker | why would i care Kraps ? |
| 22:53.45 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 22:53.51 | Kraps | you shouldnt, is my point |
| 22:53.54 | Fisker | before you couldn't move the slider up top :o |
| 22:54.01 | mckenziemc | no, i didn't dream about dreaming about dreaming about dying |
| 22:54.10 | Fisker | damn |
| 22:54.20 | Fisker | did you atleast die in a dream level so you got into limbo? |
| 22:54.30 | mckenziemc | nah |
| 22:54.33 | Fisker | oh |
| 22:54.35 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:54.58 | Fisker | ah kd3|netbook |
| 22:55.03 | Fisker | wouldn't call that sanity but ok |
| 22:55.28 | kd3|netbook | better than the previous implementation |
| 22:55.28 | kd3|netbook | saner, then |
| 22:56.15 | Kraps | its ok Bibi, http://kotaku.com broke the internet |
| 22:57.27 | Fisker | goodbye sweet Kraps |
| 22:57.34 | Kraps | why? |
| 22:58.41 | Jamash | that's a really poorly worded note about the honor/justice vendors |
| 23:00.16 | Jamash | at first I misinterpreted it to mean you could trade out 250 honor to get 375 justice, and 250 justice to get 375 honor and was like wtf |
| 23:02.35 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/#!5789899/shoot-em-up-biblical-style-west-bank-settlers-commission-video-games |
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| 23:02.43 | Kraps | i rofl |
| 23:05.05 | Kraps | at the rage |
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| 23:12.14 | Jamash | they should do an IDF rail shooter where you blow up suicide bombers and schoolchildren |
| 23:23.24 | Adys | kd3: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/4423138657/11-11-11 |
| 23:29.43 | Jamash | what sort of achievement would be meaningful in minecraft? |
| 23:30.36 | Adys | "Built a penis out of obsidian" |
| 23:31.22 | Jamash | notch says he bought an oscilloscope |
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| 23:32.41 | Jamash | I know this is old news but wtf on mojang beating valve and bioware beating blizzard and mojang beating bioware in the escapist thing |
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| 23:36.32 | Adys | Jamash: mojang is more popular than valve right now |
| 23:36.42 | Adys | i wouldnt give it the same results in 3 weeks time after portal 2 is released |
| 23:36.51 | Adys | as for bioware screw them |
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| 23:47.12 | Dagmar | Kind of agreed |
| 23:47.30 | Dagmar | Them partnering with EA is bad |
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| 23:59.49 | Cide | WHAT THE FUCK |
