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| 00:51.25 | Kraps | hoho http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703806304576242763782267924.html |
| 00:54.19 | Kraps | ~seen Kaelten |
| 00:54.22 | purl | kaelten is currently on #waruidev (16h 29m 44s) #sc2mapster (16h 29m 44s) #wowprogramming (16h 29m 44s) #wowuidev (16h 29m 44s) #arl (16h 29m 44s) #wowace (16h 29m 44s) #curseforge (16h 29m 44s), last said: 'yeah and I still tell chantelle she needs to get you checked out'. |
| 00:57.33 | Primer | Can anyone recommend a good combo point tracker? Basically I'd like something that shows a number in a frame I can move |
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| 01:06.01 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 01:06.01 | purl | ~pong |
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| 01:10.31 | Kraps | this is awesome http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/QEN/QEN_Q4-2010.pdf |
| 01:15.02 | Wobin | Kraps: |
| 01:15.07 | Wobin | It needs more stock photos |
| 01:15.11 | Wobin | of women enjoying salad |
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| 01:21.09 | Kraps | http://www.dorkly.com/article/13544/6-bioshock-anti-drug-posters |
| 01:22.29 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Did you see this? http://healthfreedoms.org/2010/02/15/aspartame-has-been-renamed-and-is-now-being-marketed-as-a-natural-sweetener/ |
| 01:22.40 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 01:22.55 | Cairenn | but thank you for the warning :) |
| 01:23.43 | Lunessa | Need to keep you healthy. Hate for a name change to give you anaphylaxis. |
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| 01:24.01 | Cairenn | yeah, that would be less than ideal, in my opinion |
| 01:24.07 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:24.29 | alestane | I thought the same thing, Lunessa. |
| 01:25.19 | Lunessa | (I'm also allergic, so it concerns me too) |
| 01:25.49 | Cairenn | aye |
| 01:25.57 | alestane | I just think it's vile. |
| 01:26.29 | Cairenn | I just need to remember to watch for that name in the ingredients list now too |
| 01:26.31 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.44 | sylvanaar | thats terrible |
| 01:27.43 | Cairenn | it's actually the phenylalanine in it that most people are allergic to, not the aspartic acid |
| 01:27.49 | Lunessa | Yeah, I don't buy anything these days without scouring the label. |
| 01:27.55 | Cairenn | same |
| 01:28.03 | Cairenn | and forget trying to find gum without it |
| 01:28.21 | Lunessa | I haven't chewed gum since Wrigley's changed the fourmlation. |
| 01:30.16 | alestane | "No sugar added" is a dead giveaway, too. |
| 01:30.18 | Cairenn | what's REALLY frustrating is all the foods/beverages/snacks/gum/what-have-you that have sugar in them, right at the top of the ingredient list, so you think you're probably safe, but if you keep reading the ingredient list you discover that it has aspartame as well |
| 01:30.33 | alestane | Invariably means "artificially sweetened" |
| 01:30.35 | Gagorian- | Phenylalanine is an essential amino acid, I don't think you can be allergic to it per se |
| 01:30.37 | Cairenn | and that makes NO sense to me |
| 01:30.42 | Gagorian- | As it's required by your body |
| 01:31.17 | Cairenn | Gagorian-: tell that to all of my doctors and pharmacists that have phenylalanine on my med charts as an allergin |
| 01:31.20 | alestane | But is it usually loose in your bloodstream, or processed inside your cells? |
| 01:31.21 | sylvanaar | http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-aspartame-allergy.htm |
| 01:31.27 | Cairenn | and hosptials |
| 01:32.05 | Cairenn | Gagorian-: tell that to my throat that tries to swell shut whenever I accidentally ingest any |
| 01:32.21 | Cairenn | go ahead, tell me I'm not allergic to it |
| 01:33.39 | Gagorian- | I don't doubt that you're allergic to something, I'm just saying it's illogical to be allergic to an essential amino acid |
| 01:33.51 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.03 | sylvanaar | you can have PKU and be unable to metabolize it |
| 01:34.18 | sylvanaar | so its toxic for you to ingest |
| 01:34.36 | Kraps | peanuts are delicious, allergies to them are dumb |
| 01:34.38 | Gagorian- | sylvanaar: Absolutely, but that's a different story altogether |
| 01:34.43 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.39 | Lunessa | Use science: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylalanine |
| 01:35.49 | alestane | Stand back: |
| 01:35.54 | alestane | I'm going to try SCIENCE! |
| 01:36.17 | Kraps | heya, is the tourist any good? |
| 01:37.48 | Lunessa | I suppose you're also going to tell me that Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is a myth too? |
| 01:38.34 | mckenziemc1 | Lunessa, you're misrepresenting what he said |
| 01:38.47 | Kraps | you obviously dont want to use the computer enough |
| 01:39.00 | Lunessa | No, I'm just having an emotional reaction. :P |
| 01:39.17 | Lunessa | After I already had my rational one. |
| 01:39.36 | sylvanaar | how objective of you |
| 01:39.56 | Lunessa | I'm nothing if not introspective and self-aware. |
| 01:40.31 | Lunessa | And an ass. "Never forget, sir, that I am an ass." |
| 01:41.34 | alestane | I've always preferred the term "iconoclast." |
| 01:42.17 | Lunessa | I was quoting The Bard, a line from "Much Ado About Nothing" |
| 01:42.21 | sylvanaar | this reminds me of one of my favorite movies 'love and death |
| 01:42.27 | sylvanaar | http://loveanddeath.pastey.net/148704 |
| 01:43.24 | Lunessa | I may have to check that out. |
| 01:44.17 | sylvanaar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_and_Death back when he made good movies |
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| 01:44.47 | Lunessa | He occasionally still does. |
| 01:45.08 | sylvanaar | yeah but sleeper love and death bananas, those were really funny |
| 01:45.29 | Lunessa | Take the Money and Run was pretty funny. |
| 01:45.47 | sylvanaar | Bananas isnt even on wikipedia |
| 01:45.49 | sylvanaar | wtf |
| 01:46.07 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 01:46.09 | kd3 | looks at a nasty-looking line of storms heading his way |
| 01:46.11 | sylvanaar | it is |
| 01:46.35 | sylvanaar | "I remember when I was a little boy, I once stole a pornographic book that was printed in Braille. I used to rub the dirty parts." |
| 01:46.56 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2fc23cc1982d72cc45f5c341831833e8.gif |
| 01:47.13 | mckenziemc1 | ~dict iconoclast |
| 01:47.43 | sylvanaar | nice |
| 01:47.46 | mckenziemc1 | ~trout herself |
| 01:47.47 | purl | ACTION slaps herself around a bit with a large trout! |
| 01:49.16 | Lunessa | Also - http://i.imgur.com/NxkL7.jpg - lulz. |
| 01:54.17 | Kraps | i'm 10 minutes into tangled and its already awesome |
| 01:55.20 | Arrowmaster | heh i watched that the other day |
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| 02:00.31 | Shirik | kd3 |
| 02:00.36 | Shirik | wunderground sounds like an amusement park |
| 02:00.56 | kd3 | that's why I usually call it wxug |
| 02:01.16 | kd3 | which, conveniently, works as a shortcut -- wxug.com |
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| 02:13.59 | Dagmar | It used to be a _terrorist organization_. |
| 02:14.05 | Dagmar | Go figure. |
| 02:15.11 | Corrodias | ~dict iconocaust |
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| 02:19.28 | sylvanaar | Kraps: yeah tangled is a pretty good movie |
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| 02:28.13 | Thunder_Child | wow, deleteing the horde demo content delets the game content |
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| 02:29.21 | mckenziemc1 | huh? |
| 02:29.22 | Thunder_Child | hoard* |
| 02:29.58 | Thunder_Child | when you install the game, the demo shows up on your list as well |
| 02:30.10 | mckenziemc1 | what game |
| 02:30.19 | Thunder_Child | hoard |
| 02:30.25 | Thunder_Child | http://store.steampowered.com/app/63000/ |
| 02:30.30 | mckenziemc1 | ah |
| 02:31.19 | Corrodias | an unexpected side effect; verifying your files for the game should fix that |
| 02:37.34 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.48 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias: verifying....like starting for the first time? |
| 02:37.57 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: system restore to the first one? |
| 02:38.09 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: you can install the os over the existing one |
| 02:38.20 | Thunder_Child | and in win 8 you can do a factory reset in 2 hour |
| 02:38.21 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 02:38.23 | Corrodias | i mean, you go in steam to the game's properties, to the local files tab, and hit verify local files. or cache. or whatever it's called. |
| 02:38.36 | Corrodias | it'll re-download anything it needs |
| 02:38.57 | Thunder_Child | oh, well i can redownload whatever |
| 02:39.05 | Thunder_Child | i just dont want the demo on the list |
| 02:39.51 | Corrodias | i know the feeling.i made a "discard" category for all the things i don't want |
| 02:40.24 | Thunder_Child | i think i am going to call mine 'i hate steam' |
| 02:41.11 | Kraps | no |
| 02:41.51 | Thunder_Child | already did |
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| 02:42.16 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: ping |
| 02:44.44 | kd3 | whee; the front's here |
| 02:44.53 | kd3 | waits for the tornado alarm to go off |
| 02:47.46 | Dagmar | It was a lot of fun here |
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| 02:50.38 | Seerah | any flooding over there, Dag? The river was really high on Saturday when we went over. |
| 02:51.15 | Seerah | * Dagmar |
| 02:51.55 | Seerah | Memphis got it around noon |
| 02:52.48 | Dagmar | Flooding wasn't really the problem today. Winds of 60-80 mph were. |
| 02:52.53 | Dagmar | Tore. Stuff. Up. |
| 02:53.03 | Seerah | yeah. we lost a lot of trees. |
| 02:53.06 | kd3 | it's been windy all day. some big gusts already |
| 02:53.12 | Seerah | had to hide the kids in the halls at work |
| 02:53.13 | kd3 | hopefully I'll be able to get out of my driveway |
| 02:54.30 | kd3 | oop, there goes the satellite |
| 02:54.37 | Seerah | :( |
| 02:54.53 | Seerah | ties kd3 to the internets |
| 02:55.24 | kd3 | I've probably got a little while unless it really starts raining. think I've finally got most of the water leaks on the phone line patched |
| 02:56.04 | kd3 | this is enough rain I used to get disconnected by this point |
| 02:56.06 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz2_NkyTv8E |
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| 02:57.31 | Seerah | back when I was still in school, living around campus, the Comcast box on our street (house?) would get water in it. Every single time we called to tell them that they hadn't fixed it yet and it was full of water, they wanted to walk us through resetting our modem... -.- |
| 02:58.45 | Shirik | Seerah didn't know the password |
| 02:59.08 | Shirik | http://xkcd.com/806/ |
| 02:59.42 | Seerah | I've seen that one :) |
| 02:59.51 | kd3 | if only it worked |
| 03:00.13 | kd3 | knows how to get to the level 2 techs at a few isps, though |
| 03:00.55 | Shirik | isn't "can you transfer me to someone who doesn't get paid minimum wage" enough? |
| 03:01.27 | Seerah | you would think even our "no, it just rained - the box has water in it. it had water in it a couple weeks ago and it was serviced then, too" would work.... |
| 03:01.56 | Seerah | should have told them to send duct tape with the guy |
| 03:01.58 | Shirik | I'm tempted next time they tell me to restart my computer I just go "I did" |
| 03:02.13 | Seerah | "where's the any key?" |
| 03:03.28 | Shirik | So get this |
| 03:03.38 | Shirik | Over the past 6 months or so I've been paying like 6 times more than my minimum payments on my credit card |
| 03:03.45 | Shirik | and in a few months it will be back down to $0 |
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| 03:04.03 | Shirik | Apparently this is a bad thing, so my bank has reduced my credit limit down to about half of what it was |
| 03:04.05 | kd3 | are they going to cut you off for not running a balance? |
| 03:04.07 | kd3 | lol |
| 03:04.35 | Seerah | well, you're obviously making so much extra money that you don't need that much credit ;) |
| 03:04.53 | Shirik | It's going to really screw up my credit score because my balance-to-limit ratio is now like 80% |
| 03:04.57 | Seerah | kd3: actually, some are doing that now |
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| 03:05.50 | Shirik | I'm just ready to get rid of this card tbh |
| 03:07.59 | Lunessa | Shirik: I had a company cancel a card because I always paid it off every 30 days. *shrug* They're in business to make money, not make you happy. |
| 03:08.20 | Shirik | I'm probably just going to apply for an amex |
| 03:08.35 | Shirik | Cards with annual fees are a little bit less likely to be dicks over things like that |
| 03:10.29 | Seerah | got an app for the Blue Sky one last week. Might sign up for it and close the Discover I never use. Maybe I'd actually use that one... /shrug Then hubby ripped up the app :p |
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| 03:16.29 | ScytheBlade1 | https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef16 |
| 03:16.41 | ScytheBlade1 | if anyone has an account there, YOU BEST VOTE FOR BEEFY MIRACLE |
| 03:16.44 | kd3 | whoo, it's voting time |
| 03:16.47 | kd3 | yes, indeed |
| 03:18.38 | Thunder_Child | i would vote for Bonnet myself |
| 03:21.17 | ScytheBlade1 | hrm, I thought that I had a fedora account |
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| 03:23.24 | Kraps | cant format the disk the current os is on |
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| 03:24.35 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: you dont have to format to install over |
| 03:24.59 | ScytheBlade1 | gah, it is refusing to take my captcha :/ |
| 03:25.16 | Thunder_Child | sounds like they are using the same one google uses |
| 03:25.17 | Kraps | i dont have the install disk right now |
| 03:25.27 | Thunder_Child | torrent |
| 03:25.43 | Thunder_Child | just make sure it's OEM/Retail |
| 03:26.06 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:26.13 | Shirik | that has got to be the worst link between releases ever |
| 03:26.53 | ScytheBlade1 | NOT THE POINT |
| 03:26.57 | ScytheBlade1 | BEEFY. |
| 03:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | MIRACLE. |
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| 03:29.08 | Shirik | wow. |
| 03:29.34 | ScytheBlade1 | You are not in a FAS group that can vote in this election, more information can be found at the bottom of this page. |
| 03:29.37 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 03:30.33 | ScytheBlade1 | http://beefymiracle.org/ |
| 03:32.12 | kd3 | voted |
| 03:32.12 | kd3 | yay |
| 03:32.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Screenshot-hotdog-chooser.png |
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| 03:34.34 | Shirik | kd3 voted for beefy miracle :( |
| 03:34.34 | kd3 | yes, yes I did |
| 03:34.34 | Shirik | AND YOU PEOPLE WONDER WHY I CHOOSE GENTOO |
| 03:34.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Like the upstanding citizen he is |
| 03:34.34 | kd3 | actually possesses such a t-shirt |
| 03:34.48 | Kraps | can i install win7 on a netbook that came with xp? |
| 03:35.03 | Shirik | why would a netbook come with xp |
| 03:35.13 | Kraps | this one did |
| 03:35.24 | Shirik | like you literally have to go out of your way to get xp |
| 03:35.27 | Shirik | why would they do that |
| 03:35.56 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: you can upgrade but it's only a direct line |
| 03:36.01 | Thunder_Child | eg. ult to ult |
| 03:36.22 | Thunder_Child | and thats for vista |
| 03:36.24 | Thunder_Child | so nvm me |
| 03:37.12 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: not worried about upgrading, a clean install is fine |
| 03:37.31 | Thunder_Child | then yes, win 7 can use the same resources as xp |
| 03:37.36 | Thunder_Child | though you lose the aero |
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| 03:38.06 | Shirik | call boeing |
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| 03:38.09 | Shirik | they have good aero engineers |
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| 03:38.50 | Thunder_Child | hurts Shirik |
| 03:39.04 | Shirik | I just got an email (sent to the "unblock requests" email list on wikipedia) |
| 03:39.08 | Shirik | It starts with "Dear Mr. Wikipedia," |
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| 03:40.00 | kd3 | which I suspect is the majority opinion of how people perceive enwiki |
| 03:40.16 | Thunder_Child | i think Shirik has a new nickname |
| 03:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | http://soekris.com/catalog/category/view/s/net6501/id/76/ |
| 03:40.21 | Thunder_Child | Mr. Wikipedia |
| 03:40.22 | ScytheBlade1 | wtb |
| 03:41.07 | Thunder_Child | hmm...clustering comes to mind with that' |
| 03:41.12 | Thunder_Child | s/'// |
| 03:41.38 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 I'm going to get a desktop sometime soon |
| 03:42.00 | ScytheBlade1 | 4x gigabit NICs, up to 1.6GHz CPU and 2GB of RAM |
| 03:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | SATA, PCIe, USB |
| 03:42.07 | ScytheBlade1 | mmm |
| 03:42.18 | kd3 | yah, that's nifty |
| 03:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | should start shipping within a month |
| 03:42.53 | ScytheBlade1 | oh, and fanless |
| 03:43.05 | Shirik | what should I get |
| 03:43.15 | Shirik | I think I will go with 2 chips |
| 03:43.28 | ScytheBlade1 | as in SMP? |
| 03:43.58 | mckenziemc1 | why settle for two chips when you can buy a whole bag? |
| 03:45.24 | ckknight_ | Shirik: you mean you're the real Mr. Wikipedia? |
| 03:45.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight_: no, he just checks Mr. Wikipedia's mailbox |
| 03:48.21 | mckenziemc1 | isn't that illegal? |
| 03:48.24 | Shirik | So won't you please stand up and be proud to be out of your mind; out of control; one more time, loud as you can, how does it go? |
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| 03:51.49 | ScytheBlade1 | ohh, integrated micro SDHC socket for storage |
| 03:57.08 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 seriously |
| 03:57.11 | Shirik | what should I get :( |
| 03:57.23 | Shirik | or should I wait for something |
| 03:58.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I have no idea |
| 03:58.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I will probably upgrade in a few months |
| 04:00.19 | Cide | [Realm First! Guild Level 25] ~ |
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| 04:01.22 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:01.30 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 04:01.42 | Sargeras | Hallo :) |
| 04:01.46 | Cairenn | how goes? |
| 04:01.55 | mckenziemc1 | Cide: that happened on my realm about an hour ago; i assume there's gonna be a cascade of them within the next week or so |
| 04:01.58 | Sargeras | Goes well... You? |
| 04:02.06 | Cairenn | pretty well |
| 04:02.06 | Cide | indeed |
| 04:02.22 | Sargeras | Irc on my phone... pretty cool |
| 04:02.27 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 04:03.26 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3|phone (~Kaydeethr@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 04:03.44 | Sargeras | Kd what app do you use? |
| 04:03.56 | kd3|phone | Yes, yes it is. |
| 04:04.00 | kd3 | andchat |
| 04:04.07 | Sargeras | Ahh same |
| 04:04.15 | kd3 | finds it hard to type on his phone wearing a wrist brace |
| 04:04.23 | Sargeras | Only had Android a few weeks |
| 04:04.25 | Sargeras | . |
| 04:04.30 | Sargeras | Loving it |
| 04:05.19 | Sargeras | K bye! |
| 04:05.25 | Sargeras | lol |
| 04:05.39 | Sargeras | pokes Dolby |
| 04:05.41 | Kraps | man everyone has android :( |
| 04:05.42 | kd3 | har |
| 04:05.52 | Sargeras | Oh hai |
| 04:05.58 | dolby | always pokeing me |
| 04:06.06 | Sargeras | Dolby doesn't |
| 04:06.30 | dolby | tried it didnt like it |
| 04:06.40 | dolby | evo 4g s l o w |
| 04:06.58 | Sargeras | Sprint :/ |
| 04:07.16 | dolby | web speed was fine |
| 04:07.20 | dolby | android was slow |
| 04:07.25 | Sargeras | Ah |
| 04:07.33 | kd3 | too much crapware installed on the phone |
| 04:07.44 | Sargeras | ^ that |
| 04:07.47 | Sargeras | I hate |
| 04:07.47 | kd3 | hates the default flash on at&t's htc aria |
| 04:09.17 | Sargeras | Had to download it on the Thunderbolt |
| 04:09.18 | Shirik | can someone please explain this to me http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007671%20600005862&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&CompareItemList=343|19-115-212^19-115-212-S01%2C19-115-079^19-115-079-TS |
| 04:09.41 | Shirik | (try to ignore the price) |
| 04:09.43 | Shirik | well |
| 04:09.44 | Kraps | Free T-shirt w/ purchase, limited offer? awesome! |
| 04:09.48 | Shirik | except which one's more expensive |
| 04:09.55 | Shirik | I don't get why the second one is more expensive |
| 04:09.58 | Sargeras | It says server error |
| 04:10.12 | kd3 | because the first one's on sale? |
| 04:10.21 | Sargeras | Might be a phone thing |
| 04:10.26 | Shirik | how do you see it's on sale |
| 04:10.34 | kd3 | right above the price in black |
| 04:10.39 | kd3 | "was: $1,049.99" |
| 04:10.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:10.46 | Shirik | ok that would do it |
| 04:13.39 | Shirik | You know what really sucks about getting a new computer |
| 04:13.45 | Shirik | there's no way I can beat out my work computer :( |
| 04:13.59 | kd3 | what's your workstation got? |
| 04:14.14 | Shirik | well it's hindered by the fact that it's on XP |
| 04:15.37 | ScytheBlade1 | my work computer is hindered by the fact that it is a quad-core Xeon with 64GB of RAM |
| 04:15.38 | Shirik | but aside from that it has 4 22" monitors, two Quadros (mostly just because I wouldn't otherwise have enough ports for the monitors), 2 quad core xeons (not sure the speed), an SSD |
| 04:16.02 | kd3 | and xp can handle that? |
| 04:16.05 | Shirik | hell no |
| 04:16.09 | Shirik | it can run |
| 04:16.14 | Shirik | but it is way overspecced for XP |
| 04:16.23 | Shirik | We're shifting to 7 though |
| 04:16.32 | Shirik | Hell I have more RAM than XP can handle |
| 04:16.39 | ScytheBlade1 | (and it hosts resources for 16 people =[) |
| 04:16.40 | kd3 | ah, my next question was going to be "so you've got a godbox, why aren't you running 7 ultimate?" |
| 04:16.52 | Shirik | which is amusing because XP still insists on swapping out memory |
| 04:17.00 | Shirik | I finally disabled the pagefile the other day and it is so much faster omg |
| 04:17.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: pagefile --> off |
| 04:17.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ha, good |
| 04:17.13 | Shirik | I just don't get it |
| 04:17.14 | Shirik | like |
| 04:17.22 | Shirik | It's swapping for no reason at all |
| 04:17.44 | Shirik | "omg you're at 50% memory, I better conserve space in case I magically learn how to address more than 4GB" |
| 04:20.49 | Shirik | How to tell you're playing an F2P game: |
| 04:20.57 | Shirik | 1. Your starting spells consist of items like this: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/63f7ee943389e5d2359f8a3aa723c72c.png |
| 04:24.48 | Thunder_Child | actually that is the name of the spell |
| 04:24.56 | Thunder_Child | it crashes other peoples clients |
| 04:25.01 | Kraps | lulz |
| 04:27.37 | Kraps | win movie is win |
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| 04:32.57 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:33.09 | Shirik | my heal spell has a description of "It's easy to heal the body, but it's hard to heal the heart" |
| 04:35.29 | Kraps | Tangled also happens to be Disney's highest-grossing animated film since The Lion King. |
| 04:36.03 | Wobin | anyone use helicon ape for url redirection? |
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| 04:41.05 | Thunder_Child | does win 7 pagefile for no reason? |
| 04:41.20 | Thunder_Child | i only ask because i hgave 10gb of ram 50% used and 30% pagefile used |
| 04:42.35 | Thunder_Child | and the pagefile is 6gb so...about 2.5gb there |
| 04:43.29 | Corrodias | the pagefile always has a certain size, and it does page out stuff even if it doesn't NEED the ram right now. |
| 04:44.01 | Shirik | It does it a lot less than win xp at least |
| 04:44.12 | Shirik | it seems to know better about when "need" might happen |
| 04:44.36 | Corrodias | i'm all in favor of moving out stuff that isn't needed so i have ram available quickly. the trick is knowing what can be paged out without me caring! |
| 04:44.54 | Shirik | I'm not |
| 04:45.00 | Shirik | Because usually my memory usage doesn't increas |
| 04:45.04 | Thunder_Child | that has something to do with the switch to prefetch superfetch |
| 04:45.04 | Shirik | I leave everything open all the time |
| 04:45.07 | Jamash | if it's smart it could write stuff to the page file without evicting it from memory |
| 04:45.30 | Shirik | It can't unfortunately |
| 04:45.37 | Jamash | then if there's sudden memory pressure, ditch the stuff that's been written already |
| 04:45.51 | Jamash | reverse caching! |
| 04:45.54 | Shirik | Well I guess it theoretically could but it wouldn't be useful unless it immediately needed it back |
| 04:45.55 | Corrodias | hard to say; windows also caches stuff in ram |
| 04:46.22 | Jamash | Shirik: why wouldn't that be useful? |
| 04:46.23 | Corrodias | at any given time i may have 100mb of ram free, but 1500 "available", as the cache can be dumped immediately in favor of new stuff |
| 04:46.28 | Shirik | I'm not saying it wouldn't be useful |
| 04:46.34 | Thunder_Child | the other option is to setup a ramdisk and put the paging file there |
| 04:46.35 | Shirik | I'm saying the way it's done right now it's just not feasible |
| 04:46.45 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: el oh el |
| 04:46.59 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: well, it would work |
| 04:47.16 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: elllllllllllllllllll ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ellllllllllllllllllllllllll |
| 04:47.31 | Thunder_Child | yes Jamash, i got it the first time |
| 04:47.41 | Shirik | Basically the way a pagefile works is that a portion of your memory map is now on your hard drive. But when you hit the hard drive a page fault occurs and the OS intervenes to move blocks around before continuing |
| 04:47.53 | Jamash | thanks professor |
| 04:48.01 | Shirik | The OS would have to retain the knowledge of where it was and then play tricks with the lookup tables |
| 04:48.11 | Shirik | The "retain the knowledge" is the bad part |
| 04:48.13 | Jamash | you mean like it does already? |
| 04:48.16 | Shirik | No |
| 04:48.26 | Shirik | You're asking it to know not only where it is, but also where it was in the past |
| 04:49.22 | Shirik | Then on top of that you're also asking the OS to remember which areas of memory were never used |
| 04:49.35 | Shirik | see what I mean |
| 04:49.41 | Jamash | I feel like you're trolling me |
| 04:49.52 | Shirik | No I'm simply pointing out that it's more complex than it seems |
| 04:50.40 | Jamash | ...you ever hear about copy-on-write? |
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| 04:51.16 | Shirik | yes? |
| 04:51.32 | Jamash | dirty bits? |
| 04:51.43 | Shirik | do you care to point out how any of this is relevant? |
| 04:52.21 | Jamash | I give up. |
| 04:52.54 | Shirik | You can't fake the copy |
| 04:53.12 | Shirik | Unless you never assign the block to any other application again. In which case you might as well not have swapped it out. |
| 04:53.12 | mckenziemc1 | the os checks the memory first, not the hard drive.... |
| 04:53.44 | mckenziemc1 | if it's there than it uses the memory, if the OS needs space for something else it checks something like a bit to see if that page is already on the hard drive, if so dumps it |
| 04:54.12 | Shirik | actually it goes to the right place immediately |
| 04:54.32 | Shirik | but attempting to access the hard drive on the memory map is a page fault |
| 04:54.32 | mckenziemc1 | a table does the lookup |
| 04:54.36 | Jamash | actually shirik doesn't know how virtual memory works |
| 04:54.43 | Shirik | Uh, no |
| 04:54.47 | Shirik | Perhaps you don't |
| 04:54.55 | Shirik | But it's quite straightforward |
| 04:55.02 | Jamash | makes popcorn |
| 04:55.33 | mckenziemc1 | i don't understand, Shirik |
| 04:55.35 | Shirik | Basically, what Jamash is trying to say is that because he asked irrelevant questions and I couldn't respond because they were non-sequitors, he claims I don't know what he's talking about |
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| 04:55.58 | Shirik | mckenziemc1, when an application attempts to access a memory address, it gets it unless something exceptional occurs |
| 04:55.59 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 04:56.06 | mckenziemc1 | and |
| 04:56.06 | Shirik | the OS is not involved (except for protection) |
| 04:56.16 | Jamash | Shirik seems to think that virtual addresses are the same thing as real addresses, I guess? |
| 04:56.19 | Shirik | but "something exceptional" DOES include a page fault |
| 04:56.27 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 04:56.32 | Jamash | which is pretty bizarre imo |
| 04:56.35 | mckenziemc1 | then OS is the wrong term; i'm not familiar with the exact workings |
| 04:56.38 | Shirik | when the page fault occurs the OS will take over and swap it back into memory |
| 04:56.42 | mckenziemc1 | but i don't think that supports your claim either |
| 04:56.44 | Shirik | and then let the application continue |
| 04:57.19 | Shirik | The problem with Jamash's "trick" is that the OS would have to retain the knowledge of where in physical memory it was swapped out of, as well as retain the knowledge that there might be something useful there to realize any gains |
| 04:57.33 | Shirik | Otherwise it wouldn't know where to "fake swap" it back to |
| 04:57.36 | Cide | how're you Shirik? |
| 04:57.38 | Jamash | oh my god |
| 04:57.40 | mckenziemc1 | why Shirik |
| 04:57.47 | Shirik | why? |
| 04:57.52 | Shirik | why what |
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| 04:58.06 | Jamash | He really doesn't know what the difference between a virtual address and a real address is |
| 04:58.11 | mckenziemc1 | a simple table of bits that says "this table is in the memory but also in the hard drive" would suffice, would it not? |
| 04:58.16 | Shirik | Dude I just explained the entire process to you |
| 04:58.20 | Shirik | including the translation |
| 04:58.27 | Jamash | you left out all of the important parts |
| 04:58.35 | Shirik | There are no important parts |
| 04:58.39 | Shirik | What you want to do doesn't work |
| 04:58.40 | Shirik | period |
| 04:58.41 | Jamash | oooooooooooooookay |
| 04:58.52 | mckenziemc1 | the hard drive needs a map back to the memory, yes, but the memory doesn't need a full map to the hard drive |
| 04:58.56 | Shirik | No |
| 04:58.58 | Shirik | it doesn't |
| 04:59.03 | Shirik | well his plan does |
| 04:59.08 | mckenziemc1 | no it doesn't |
| 04:59.12 | Shirik | no the first part |
| 04:59.25 | Jamash | out of curiosity, what do you think the TLB does? |
| 04:59.27 | mckenziemc1 | i was talking about his plan.... |
| 04:59.33 | Shirik | Jamash just shut up |
| 04:59.36 | Shirik | Seriously |
| 04:59.42 | Shirik | mckenziemc1, and I agreed with you |
| 04:59.49 | mckenziemc1 | Shirik, i think you're arguing about something different |
| 04:59.55 | Jamash | no, I'm curious to see how you think virtual memory works |
| 04:59.56 | mckenziemc1 | than what he means |
| 04:59.57 | Shirik | I'm not arguing with you |
| 05:00.07 | Shirik | Jamash, let me explain something to you |
| 05:00.18 | Shirik | You STILL haven't answered ANY of my questions about why you think any of this stuff is relevant |
| 05:00.21 | Jamash | eats some popcorn |
| 05:00.33 | Shirik | Considering I was simply talking to you earlier when you said "are you trolling me" I'm going to assume you're now trolling |
| 05:00.42 | Shirik | And for that reason I have no more interest in talking with you |
| 05:00.49 | Jamash | umadbro? |
| 05:00.52 | mckenziemc1 | you haven't explained that they aren't relevant either |
| 05:01.11 | Shirik | I don't think you even saw that part of the conversation mckenziemc1 |
| 05:01.31 | mckenziemc1 | i did |
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| 05:01.49 | Shirik | Jamash claims that copy-on-write is relevant |
| 05:01.57 | Shirik | it is not, because the OS does not get to intervene on write |
| 05:01.59 | mckenziemc1 | but i think you two may have been talking about something different, ie the relevance or irrelevance may be misleading |
| 05:02.27 | Jamash | Shirik: I mentioned copy-on-write because it also involves the MMU |
| 05:02.35 | Shirik | Look dude |
| 05:02.38 | Shirik | It's very simple |
| 05:02.41 | Jamash | dudebro |
| 05:02.52 | Shirik | application says write, and it is within its limits, write happens |
| 05:02.55 | Shirik | there is no exception |
| 05:03.00 | Shirik | there is no "oh shit wait no I needed that aaahhhhh" |
| 05:03.05 | Shirik | there is just "ok done" |
| 05:03.22 | Shirik | Yes, it theoretically could be done |
| 05:03.32 | Shirik | You will negate all of your potential gains by trying to do it |
| 05:04.01 | Shirik | so Cide sup |
| 05:04.30 | Jamash | ITT we learn Shirik knows nothing about how virtual memory actually works but thinks he does |
| 05:04.48 | Shirik | If I were any lesser man you wouldn't actually still be in this channel |
| 05:05.33 | Jamash | ah, threats |
| 05:05.34 | Cide | not much |
| 05:05.43 | Cide | I have no experience what you're talking about |
| 05:05.46 | mckenziemc1 | cool it Jamash |
| 05:05.54 | Cide | but I bet Shirik is right |
| 05:05.58 | Thunder_Child | stop baiting Shirik Jamash |
| 05:06.05 | Cide | and I also bet I killed heroic chimaeron tonight! |
| 05:06.18 | Shirik | I should kick you too |
| 05:06.38 | Shirik | I spent 30 minutes trying to get a raid together |
| 05:06.47 | Shirik | and then gave up and made macaroni and cheese |
| 05:06.48 | Cide | hey |
| 05:06.58 | mckenziemc1 | wtf, i just saw two NPCs running back and forth after each other |
| 05:07.03 | Cide | hey now |
| 05:07.08 | Thunder_Child | mmmmm....mac and cheese |
| 05:07.19 | Thunder_Child | damn you Shirik for making me hungry |
| 05:07.20 | Shirik | mckenziemc1 there was a game I played where if you did it right they would do that forever |
| 05:07.35 | Cide | we had 2 warriors, 1 dk, 2 hunters, 1 priest, 1 shaman, 1 paladin, 2 mages |
| 05:07.43 | Shirik | you got loot too didn't you |
| 05:07.46 | mckenziemc1 | lol |
| 05:07.50 | Cide | I'm coming to that part |
| 05:07.53 | Cide | we got 2 pieces of leather |
| 05:08.02 | Shirik | you reforged it into cloth? |
| 05:08.11 | Shirik | oh haha no leather wearers |
| 05:08.12 | Shirik | win |
| 05:08.42 | Cide | win indeed |
| 05:08.46 | Cide | but we did get realm first level 25 yay |
| 05:08.57 | Shirik | yay |
| 05:08.59 | Shirik | we didn't |
| 05:09.05 | Shirik | (surprise surprise) |
| 05:09.09 | Cide | clearly you're missing out on the better guild! |
| 05:09.15 | Shirik | I knew this a long time ago |
| 05:09.20 | Cide | lol |
| 05:09.33 | Shirik | I moved to a guild with some friends just for the time |
| 05:09.38 | Shirik | pacific time really screws things up |
| 05:09.48 | Cide | yeah come be awesome in sweden |
| 05:10.09 | Shirik | wtf |
| 05:10.12 | Cide | GMT+1 is the best for raiding on MST servers |
| 05:10.21 | Shirik | ok so in this game you always get a "yes" and a "no" option for quests |
| 05:10.36 | Shirik | this one quest is asking me to pick some berries for a child |
| 05:10.44 | Shirik | because it's the last time she'll ever be able to eat them |
| 05:10.48 | Shirik | because they're moving |
| 05:11.01 | Shirik | options: "okay" and "sorry I might break a nail" |
| 05:11.27 | Cide | what child needs help picking berries though jesus |
| 05:11.56 | Thunder_Child | sick ones? |
| 05:12.09 | Cide | that's what the make a wish foundation is for |
| 05:12.22 | Cide | go wish for some berries |
| 05:12.25 | Thunder_Child | i dont think they pick berries |
| 05:12.44 | Cide | I bet they would pay you more awesomely for picking the berries than the child |
| 05:13.42 | Shirik | WTF THIS ISN'T A KID |
| 05:13.54 | Shirik | it's a unicorn |
| 05:13.55 | Cide | (07:10:35) Shirik: this one quest is asking me to pick some berries for a child |
| 05:14.05 | Cide | child unicorn? |
| 05:14.25 | Shirik | he's talking to me ._. |
| 05:14.38 | Cide | I am so confused |
| 05:14.56 | Shirik | me too |
| 05:15.03 | Cide | are you saying random things like I did the other night |
| 05:15.11 | Cide | because that was awesome |
| 05:15.15 | Shirik | It's a baby unicorn that is talking to me |
| 05:15.19 | Shirik | what other night? |
| 05:15.30 | Cide | when we were talking about safety gradients in airplanes |
| 05:16.50 | Shirik | I still maintain that the aisle seat is the safest place |
| 05:16.54 | Shirik | by a very small margin |
| 05:17.16 | Cide | could be |
| 05:17.24 | Cide | depends on the crash method |
| 05:17.28 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 05:17.29 | Cide | gotta factor in statistics for that |
| 05:17.48 | Shirik | but I think the aisle seat is the only one likely to yield you any gain (if any) |
| 05:18.12 | Cide | seats in the back should yield higher survivability for nose crashes |
| 05:18.15 | Shirik | Ok I guess zeus threw a spear through the middle of the aircraft that would be bad |
| 05:18.23 | Shirik | yes but aisle seats in the back would be even better! |
| 05:18.29 | Thunder_Child | or if the plane rips in half down the middle |
| 05:18.36 | Cide | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_Airlines_Flight_751 |
| 05:18.43 | Cide | a pretty famous swedish crash |
| 05:18.45 | Cide | interestingly nobody died! |
| 05:19.03 | Shirik | the wings broke off? |
| 05:19.11 | Shirik | wait wait wait |
| 05:19.12 | Shirik | ice? |
| 05:19.26 | Shirik | that plane deserved to crash |
| 05:19.32 | Shirik | the pilot was a dumbass |
| 05:19.44 | Shirik | hm I guess this was in 91 |
| 05:19.45 | Kraps | all this aggravation aint satisfactionin me |
| 05:19.49 | Shirik | I don't know if they had ice sensors back then |
| 05:19.58 | Shirik | nowadays you get an alert on ice |
| 05:20.06 | Shirik | Actually you get 3 alerts, "Ice" "more ice" and "saturation ice" |
| 05:20.18 | Shirik | and I'm not kidding about the "more ice" alert the first time I saw that I was like "seriously?" |
| 05:20.59 | Kraps | the guy who made it had a too warm drink |
| 05:21.29 | Cide | anyway that plane ended up being severed in 2 different places along the body iirc |
| 05:21.35 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: the funny thing is that the pilot got praise for the landing but as pointed out in the begning didnt check for ice |
| 05:21.56 | Shirik | I have a problem with a pilot in sweden that didn't check for ice |
| 05:22.01 | Shirik | isn't it always snowing up there? |
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| 05:22.31 | Cide | so if that's likely to happen you don't wanna sit in those seats |
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| 05:23.23 | Shirik | what seats |
| 05:23.39 | Shirik | it looks like the whole bottom got smashed |
| 05:24.42 | Cide | Shirik: it says the routines for clearing ice off the wings before takeoff weren't good enough |
| 05:24.51 | Cide | so there was still ice remaining when it took off |
| 05:25.19 | Cide | and this was 20 years ago so they probably know more about it now! |
| 05:25.35 | Kraps | "Rapunzel has lime green eyes. She's one of the few Disney characters and the only Disney Princess to have green eyes." |
| 05:25.57 | Kraps | man, only tropers keep track of this stuff |
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| 05:27.36 | Cide | Shirik: that photo must have been after some reconstructions or something |
| 05:27.37 | Cide | http://anticimex.blogg.se/images/sas_crash_1180371113.jpg |
| 05:27.52 | Shirik | oh that sucks |
| 05:30.49 | Dagmar | Not getting their deposit back |
| 05:31.12 | Cide | I bet they got their tickets refunded, 2 free flights and an apology though |
| 05:31.22 | Shirik | lmao |
| 05:31.43 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:31.44 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:31.44 | Fisker | slaps Dagmar around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:31.59 | Shirik | wonders how Fisker did that so quickly |
| 05:32.10 | Wobin | fingars liek lightning |
| 05:32.36 | Shirik | I think my favorite part of this game is that it has this "auto routing" capability |
| 05:32.46 | Shirik | You get a quest, click on a link in the quest, and AFK while it runs you there |
| 05:32.48 | Wobin | Personally, I'd be wary of using a 'free flight' on an airline I just crashed on |
| 05:33.03 | Shirik | granted it takes the shortest path possible, which may be right through a bunch of elite mobs |
| 05:33.05 | Shirik | but it works |
| 05:33.25 | Fisker | i don't know Wobin |
| 05:33.32 | Wobin | what game are you playing, Shirik? |
| 05:33.36 | Fisker | maybe they get another crash within those 2 free tickets |
| 05:33.37 | Shirik | forsaken world |
| 05:33.38 | Wobin | Fisker: You don't? |
| 05:33.40 | Fisker | = infinite free tickets |
| 05:33.49 | Wobin | Fisker: true |
| 05:33.54 | Wobin | it's like wishing for more wishes |
| 05:34.08 | Wobin | although if I crashed on the second flight |
| 05:34.09 | Shirik | No see you're not allowed to wish for more wishes |
| 05:34.11 | Fisker | except you might die trying |
| 05:34.13 | Shirik | didn't you ever watch alladin? |
| 05:34.14 | Wobin | I'd want more than another 2 free flights |
| 05:34.21 | Shirik | But what alladin should have wished for is more genies |
| 05:34.28 | Shirik | (or more magic lamps) |
| 05:34.38 | Wobin | well, technically, he had a magic ring |
| 05:34.46 | Fisker | i think he should've wished for the weekend to never end |
| 05:34.58 | Shirik | high school never ends |
| 05:35.04 | Shirik | the whole damn world is just as obsessed |
| 05:35.13 | Shirik | with who's the best dressed and who's having sex |
| 05:35.21 | Cide | Wobin: well, you'd get another apology and yet another flight refunded... |
| 05:35.41 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_QTUWHN6mE |
| 05:38.58 | Shirik | What happened to bowling for soup anyway |
| 05:39.01 | Shirik | they stil making music? |
| 05:39.26 | Kraps | the disney alladin is the real one imo :p |
| 05:39.35 | Shirik | agree |
| 05:39.58 | Shirik | wait Wobin |
| 05:40.01 | Shirik | seriously? |
| 05:40.06 | Shirik | magic ring? |
| 05:40.17 | Wobin | Shirik: Pretty sure |
| 05:40.39 | Shirik | wikipedia concurs so you must be right |
| 05:41.09 | Kraps | "should i call you al, or maybe just din, or maybe ladie |
| 05:42.59 | Wobin | hm |
| 05:43.05 | Wobin | I never knew it was a chinese tale |
| 05:43.06 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84K6Zvvem-Y#t=54s best scene in the movie |
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| 05:46.28 | mckenziemc1 | slaps Fisker around a bit with ten large, cyan void bovine |
| 05:49.23 | bluspacecow | \o |
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| 06:17.07 | Cide | Shirik |
| 06:17.14 | Cide | I have an important announcement to make in the name of science |
| 06:17.20 | amro | you're quitting science? |
| 06:17.25 | Cide | NO |
| 06:17.44 | Cide | I am awaiting the return of Shirik before I reveal my discoveries |
| 06:17.51 | Shirik | shirik never disappeared |
| 06:17.55 | Cide | I see. |
| 06:17.58 | Cide | here goes. |
| 06:18.12 | Cide | Guardian Spirit does not prevent you from death by fall damage. |
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| 06:19.10 | amro | that changes everything |
| 06:20.04 | Cide | I am well aware of the vast implications |
| 06:20.09 | Shirik | Cide |
| 06:20.15 | Shirik | why should it |
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| 06:20.39 | Cide | "The spirit [...] also prevents the target from dying by sacrificing itself." |
| 06:21.15 | mckenziemc | who would sacrifice themselves for Cide anyway |
| 06:21.49 | Shirik | The spirit died on the fall as well |
| 06:21.50 | amro | Cide: since when do wow mechanics make sense? |
| 06:22.03 | Shirik | or maybe it's like my mom's thing she gave to me when I turned 16 |
| 06:22.12 | Shirik | "Never drive faster than your guardian angel can fly" |
| 06:22.18 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 06:22.21 | Cide | this is true |
| 06:22.27 | Cide | it was trailing me a bit on the way down |
| 06:22.31 | Shirik | seriously she gave me this thing to hang in my car that says it |
| 06:22.34 | Cide | maybe I was out of range |
| 06:22.37 | amro | except the part where angels fly at the speed of light Shirik |
| 06:22.51 | Shirik | well then I guess I won't have much trouble satisfying the request |
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| 06:23.03 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:23.08 | Shirik | wait, doesn't that mean the angel will always be too late? |
| 06:23.08 | Cide | Cide |
| 06:23.16 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 06:23.21 | Cide | Fisik |
| 06:23.23 | mckenziemc | |
| 06:23.31 | Fisker | don't you just hate it when you screwed in 6 harddrives and have to remove 3 of them because you forgot you had to screw in a harddrive on the bottom of it? |
| 06:23.40 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 06:24.08 | Fisker | also this cage is heavy as fuck with 7 harddrives in it |
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| 06:24.19 | Shirik | sounds like you need 8 hard drives |
| 06:24.23 | Fisker | i don't |
| 06:24.29 | Fisker | only room for 7 |
| 06:24.29 | Shirik | how are you supposed to do raid 0 with 7 hard drives |
| 06:24.37 | Shirik | well I guess you could |
| 06:24.41 | Fisker | you can do raid 0 with any number of drives above 2 :( |
| 06:24.45 | Shirik | yes |
| 06:24.49 | Shirik | but who does that! |
| 06:24.51 | Shirik | you need 8 |
| 06:24.58 | Fisker | i think i'll have to use an SSD instead btw |
| 06:25.06 | Shirik | 8 ssds |
| 06:25.18 | Fisker | the HDD that is mounted outside is without any kind of sound dampening |
| 06:25.23 | Fisker | + it hangs relatively lose |
| 06:25.28 | Shirik | 8 ssds |
| 06:25.34 | Fisker | a billion ssds |
| 06:25.39 | Shirik | no that's just silly |
| 06:25.41 | mckenziemc | 8 NASs |
| 06:25.52 | Fisker | your mom is silly |
| 06:25.55 | Shirik | I keep coming back to this point |
| 06:26.06 | Shirik | I think I don't really ever use more than 50GB disk space |
| 06:26.24 | Shirik | Someone needs to come up with a fast, non-volatile ram |
| 06:26.33 | Shirik | (SSDs do not fit the definition of "fast") |
| 06:27.01 | Cairenn | hands Shirik a fireproof goat |
| 06:27.08 | Shirik | o.o |
| 06:27.13 | Shirik | ... |
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| 06:27.16 | Shirik | ok that took a few seconds |
| 06:27.20 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:27.49 | Fisker | also |
| 06:28.03 | mckenziemc | goats are inherently non-volatile : / |
| 06:28.11 | Fisker | which operating system shall i taaaaaaaake? |
| 06:28.16 | Shirik | gentoo |
| 06:28.18 | Fisker | IT'S FRIDAY FRIDAY GOTTA GET DOWN ON FRIDAY |
| 06:28.27 | amro | Shirik: you're not the mass storage type? |
| 06:28.27 | Fisker | Everyone's looking forward to the weekend weekend |
| 06:28.37 | Shirik | no amro |
| 06:28.41 | Shirik | what am I going to store, seriously |
| 06:28.46 | amro | all dat anime |
| 06:28.51 | Shirik | ok actually I do have one problem |
| 06:28.56 | Shirik | every single one of my pictures is 25MB |
| 06:28.59 | Cide | so is there non-expensive bit storage that is fast and non-volatile |
| 06:29.05 | amro | lose some weight Shirik |
| 06:29.06 | Fisker | it's friday Shirik? :( |
| 06:29.07 | Cide | that is not ssd |
| 06:29.13 | Shirik | but I'd rather find an off-site storage location for that |
| 06:29.25 | Shirik | amro if I lost weight I would have a negative BMI |
| 06:29.46 | Shirik | faster than SSD Cide? |
| 06:29.46 | amro | seriously though, you don't archive videos? |
| 06:30.05 | Shirik | no |
| 06:30.41 | Cide | Shirik: if ssd does not fit the "fast" bill |
| 06:30.42 | Shirik | I should |
| 06:30.43 | Shirik | I used to |
| 06:30.49 | mckenziemc | my storage stuff is about 100GiB but the important stuff is only 5GiB |
| 06:31.02 | Shirik | Cide: It needs to be fast enough to be usable as RAM |
| 06:31.10 | Cide | so... RAM? |
| 06:31.17 | mckenziemc | how about.... battery-powered RAM |
| 06:31.19 | Shirik | you forgot the non-volatile part |
| 06:31.28 | Cide | hook up an array of "computers" |
| 06:31.29 | Shirik | ah mckenziemc's on the right track |
| 06:31.46 | Cide | communicating via optical cables |
| 06:31.52 | Cide | off-site |
| 06:32.22 | Shirik | you could have like a small, slow HDD for backup that the computer automatically sends the data to if you're about to run out of battery power |
| 06:32.47 | Shirik | it would only have to be as big as your ram |
| 06:33.08 | Shirik | I approve of this concept |
| 06:33.20 | Shirik | or it could be online |
| 06:33.29 | mckenziemc | can't you buy an expansion card that takes normal ram, contains a battery, and acts as an SSD? |
| 06:33.49 | Shirik | that would be a really heavy card |
| 06:33.58 | mckenziemc | i think i saw one |
| 06:34.02 | mckenziemc | on wikipedia |
| 06:34.12 | Shirik | in before "if not give me 5 minutes I'll give you the link" |
| 06:34.34 | mckenziemc | maybe it didn't have a battery and used non-volatile backup, i don't remember |
| 06:35.04 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:35.09 | Fisker | do you know what i'm looking forward to? |
| 06:35.41 | mckenziemc | friday |
| 06:36.35 | Fisker | the weekend but close enough |
| 06:37.23 | Shirik | I'm looking forward to eating an apple |
| 06:37.30 | Shirik | that time is now |
| 06:37.35 | Shirik | it is much closer than the weekend |
| 06:37.54 | mckenziemc | the worm is not looking forward to it |
| 06:38.35 | Fisker | fun fun fun |
| 06:39.33 | mckenziemc | Fisker Fisker Fisker |
| 06:39.47 | Fisker | no mckenziemc |
| 06:39.48 | Fisker | no! |
| 06:40.21 | mckenziemc | no no no? |
| 06:42.06 | Shirik | It's not spoo mckenziemc |
| 06:42.15 | mckenziemc | ? |
| 06:42.26 | Shirik | It's just an apple |
| 06:42.30 | Shirik | no worm |
| 06:42.38 | Fisker | gotta get down to the busstop |
| 06:43.59 | mckenziemc | Shirik: that's what you think |
| 06:47.30 | Shirik | mckenziemc |
| 06:47.40 | Shirik | did you know rogues can apply poisons without attacking you? |
| 06:48.22 | Jamash | hey shirik: http://www.linux-tutorial.info/modules.php?name=MContent&pageid=314 |
| 06:49.27 | Shirik | ok I've had enough of you |
| 06:51.22 | mckenziemc | i didn't |
| 06:51.24 | mckenziemc | how |
| 06:51.59 | Shirik | mckenziemc: It costs 3 |
| 06:52.25 | Shirik | http://wowtcgdb.com/carddetail.aspx?id=3578 |
| 06:52.30 | Shirik | It costs you no energy if you dealt damage though |
| 06:52.43 | Shirik | but if you think hard enough, you can do it with just your mind! |
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| 06:59.25 | mckenziemc | Now Shaving. Keep Power On. |
| 06:59.31 | mckenziemc | Shaving Complete. |
| 06:59.40 | Shirik | what |
| 07:00.12 | mckenziemc | Shirik |
| 07:00.18 | mckenziemc | your Shave File is corrupt |
| 07:00.27 | Shirik | it's true I didn't shave this morning |
| 07:00.38 | Fisker | do you shave your files with that mouth mckenziemc ? |
| 07:01.20 | mckenziemc | yes Fisker |
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| 07:03.52 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 07:03.57 | Fisker | do you penis? |
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| 07:18.53 | ccox | Shirik - there are fast non-volatile RAM devices, they're just very, very expensive right now |
| 07:19.13 | Shirik | I need some of those |
| 07:19.30 | ccox | you and me both |
| 07:19.54 | ccox | the prices should come down soon |
| 07:20.10 | ccox | lots of new storage technologies coming to market |
| 07:20.51 | Fisker | me |
| 07:20.53 | Fisker | however not you Shirik |
| 07:21.20 | bluspacecow | fiskery fisker |
| 07:21.28 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 07:21.34 | bluspacecow | Hi! |
| 07:24.54 | Fisker | hey |
| 07:26.06 | Fisker | you should've seen the lulz bluspacecow |
| 07:26.15 | bluspacecow | there was lulz ? |
| 07:26.16 | Fisker | Someone had their character renamed from "Goatze" |
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| 07:26.48 | bluspacecow | -_- |
| 07:26.53 | bluspacecow | i see what they did there |
| 07:27.01 | Fisker | So he was saying on the forums that the GM also wiped his game settings as part of the "punishment" for his name that wasn't improper according to him |
| 07:27.16 | bluspacecow | config.wtf ? |
| 07:27.19 | mckenziemc | game settings? wha? |
| 07:27.25 | bluspacecow | nah not possible without a client side patch |
| 07:27.34 | Fisker | yeah mckenziemc |
| 07:27.56 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1933183310 |
| 07:28.02 | bluspacecow | technically the TOS/EULA gives them the right to terminate your account ...... at any time .... for any reason they choose |
| 07:28.11 | bluspacecow | 'course they're too nice to do that |
| 07:28.24 | bluspacecow | "you looked at my cheese sammich the wrong way" *terminate account* |
| 07:28.46 | Fisker | that would be sweet |
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| 07:38.55 | airtonix | would it? |
| 07:39.06 | Fisker | yes |
| 07:39.13 | airtonix | explain |
| 07:39.21 | Fisker | penis |
| 07:39.38 | airtonix | insufficient data |
| 07:39.53 | Fisker | disagreed |
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| 07:46.53 | Cairenn | awwwww! Wobin, mikma - last night (or the night before?) I lined about the doggie in Japan that got rescued out at sea 3 weeks after the earthquake & tsunami ... he's been reunited with his owner now, too! http://dogs.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/04/04/funny-dog-pictures-tsunami-survivor-goggie/ |
| 07:47.16 | airtonix | you lined? |
| 07:47.27 | airtonix | what is this lining? |
| 07:47.28 | Cairenn | linked |
| 07:47.31 | Cairenn | :p |
| 07:48.04 | zenzio | Cairenn: awesome! |
| 07:48.07 | Wobin | Cairenn: I heard! \o/ |
| 07:48.20 | Wobin | Awesome dog name too |
| 07:49.11 | Wobin | Ban! |
| 07:49.16 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 07:52.45 | Cairenn | nice to see even one 'good news' report in the midst of all that tragedy |
| 07:54.24 | amro | funny-dog-pictures-tsunami-survivor |
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| 07:56.49 | haste | I read "lied", not "lined" there |
| 07:57.05 | Kalroth | haha |
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| 08:01.14 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 08:01.31 | airtonix | is it wrong to market an online business brand and not have online in your personal habits ? |
| 08:01.53 | Fisker | i'm getting my racoons today |
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| 08:08.05 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a magic school bus |
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| 08:19.05 | Fisker | LOL bluspacecow |
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| 08:22.16 | mckenziemc | hey Fisker |
| 08:22.18 | mckenziemc | You die now! |
| 08:24.41 | Fisker | this is fucking comedy gold |
| 08:25.10 | Fisker | the guy who said that Goatze never meant to reference "Goatse" but was infact actually some kind of japanese reference is also part of an arena team called "Onal Beads" |
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| 08:27.59 | tekkub | damnit |
| 08:28.10 | tekkub | I hate how music can change your mood |
| 08:28.27 | tekkub | I'm all sorts of depressed, but I don't want to put on something different |
| 08:29.56 | Jamash | I find listening to german industrial metal cheers me up |
| 08:30.09 | tekkub | that would just give me a headache |
| 08:30.24 | tekkub | which would make me very irritable |
| 08:30.31 | airtonix | listen to astley martin |
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| 08:34.53 | mitch0 | tekkub: nikc cave? :) |
| 08:35.01 | mitch0 | s/badspelling/goodspelling/ |
| 08:35.07 | tekkub | huh? |
| 08:35.27 | mitch0 | thought you were listening to nick cave. he makes the most depressing music I ever heard ;) |
| 08:35.42 | Fisker | lulz with me bluspacecow |
| 08:35.43 | Fisker | do it |
| 08:35.47 | tekkub | No, the Sword & Sworcery soundtrack |
| 08:35.55 | mckenziemc | lulz Fisker |
| 08:35.55 | tekkub | it's amazingly wonderful, bu tit makes me sad |
| 08:35.58 | bluspacecow | lulz |
| 08:36.27 | mckenziemc | psych |
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| 08:37.21 | Fisker | did you lulz without reason bluspacecow ? |
| 08:37.34 | airtonix | why would you care |
| 08:37.51 | bluspacecow | i lolzed cause you said to lulz with you |
| 08:38.05 | bluspacecow | so i did :) |
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| 08:38.34 | mckenziemc | lies cyanvoidbovine |
| 08:38.39 | Fisker | you shouldn't bluspacecow |
| 08:39.10 | Adys | hai bluspacecow |
| 08:39.13 | Fisker | i just discovered that guy who said he didn't meant to reference goatse is in an arena team called "Onal Beads" |
| 08:39.32 | Adys | bluspacecow: http://188.165.247.199/latest.jpg look at ze guitar, look at it. |
| 08:40.05 | airtonix | Fisker: how does that make you feel? |
| 08:40.41 | Fisker | lulzy airtonix |
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| 08:45.46 | RMike | Hey guys, im wondering if there are any DKP systems available for download so i can have a look at their way of calculating it ? |
| 08:48.11 | Fisker | http://techfrom10.com/2011/04/the-android-test-market/ <-moar |
| 08:49.55 | Corrodias | i recommend a bloody mary and pretending you've never heard of DKP |
| 08:50.16 | RMike | hehe =P |
| 08:52.02 | RMike | I think i've done normalising my database for optimal use. Going to build the query's il need but i seriously need a good formula to calculate dkp price and points earned >< |
| 08:52.29 | Corrodias | also, doing nasty things to the Alienware marketing exec who green-lighted this abnoxiously loud video advertisement that plays before every single blip.tv video i've watched for the past month |
| 08:52.44 | Corrodias | that course of action comes particularly highly recommended |
| 08:53.14 | Corrodias | green-lit? |
| 08:56.09 | Fisker | farts Corrodias |
| 08:56.26 | foxlit | "normalising my database for optimal use" :/ |
| 08:59.23 | RMike | aint that what you supposed to do foxlit ? |
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| 09:00.26 | Corrodias | put all data in one table |
| 09:00.28 | Corrodias | 200 fields |
| 09:01.18 | Corrodias | has that bloody mary now. |
| 09:01.47 | foxlit | Dunno, I normalise my paper airplanes for optimal use, too :) |
| 09:03.03 | foxlit | Just sounds weird, really. |
| 09:03.18 | foxlit | As far as I'm aware, eqdkp just stores a player -> current DKP value map |
| 09:04.34 | foxlit | The per-raid logs are around, too, but it's more like a record of how they arrived at the current value rather than something you'd want to SUM() over. |
| 09:04.55 | foxlit | Prices are more or less arbitrary. |
| 09:06.42 | Corrodias | that's what SHE said |
| 09:07.11 | Fisker | yeah pretty much Corrodias |
| 09:07.31 | mckenziemc | "Make sense!" |
| 09:07.31 | foxlit | Personally, I'd like to try something that scales exponentially with raid tier. |
| 09:07.47 | Corrodias | that's what SHE said |
| 09:07.52 | foxlit | But people go "EXPONENTIAL? WTF, I'M OUT OF FINGERS!" |
| 09:12.33 | Jamash | make every item cost more than you want to pay, but less than you think everyone else should pay |
| 09:12.39 | Jamash | problem solved |
| 09:14.12 | mckenziemc | i'd just make everything cost one Jamash |
| 09:14.26 | Jamash | I'm not fungible |
| 09:15.08 | mckenziemc | no, but you're unique |
| 09:15.15 | mckenziemc | and you dont' have any other value |
| 09:20.27 | Corrodias | i use Jamash as my primary key |
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| 09:35.25 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://screencast.com/t/GDkabHk58NQ3 |
| 09:35.26 | Torhal | Corrodias: That sounds dirty. |
| 09:35.40 | Wobin | one of my friends has a scottish fold kitten >< |
| 09:35.46 | Wobin | it should be illegal to be so cute =( |
| 09:35.49 | Cairenn | Wobin: cute |
| 09:35.50 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 09:36.04 | Wobin | If only he lived in the same country as I did |
| 09:36.13 | Wobin | I'd be over at his place all the time cuddling the kitty =P |
| 09:36.21 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 09:50.39 | bluspacecow | @Xin www.minecraftwiki.net |
| 09:50.49 | zenzio | scottish folds are awesome |
| 09:53.43 | mckenziemc | @bluspacecow aoeu |
| 09:54.09 | bluspacecow | old mc donald had a farm ? |
| 09:54.47 | mckenziemc | ~aoeu |
| 09:54.48 | purl | the keys you want to put your left hand on, dorkus. |
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| 10:10.24 | Fisker | i did it bluspacecow |
| 10:10.28 | Fisker | i installed linux |
| 10:10.33 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 10:10.51 | Fisker | for some reason the windows usb tool won't work |
| 10:11.21 | Jamash | try installing it in wine |
| 10:11.25 | Fisker | no |
| 10:12.02 | Jamash | I had some difficulty explaining to my dad why coLinux wouldn't work in Wine |
| 10:12.53 | Jamash | he didn't get that Wine only handles userspace APIs, not kernel APIs |
| 10:12.58 | Fisker | soon i'll have to do the wiring of hell |
| 10:13.08 | Fisker | + i have to dismantle this system and remantle it again on a new motherboard |
| 10:13.12 | Jamash | be sure to bring lots of redstone |
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| 10:39.46 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhdWsuvtXC8&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:39.52 | Wobin | SQUEAKY |
| 10:39.57 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 10:41.01 | Cairenn | funny, my cat is sleeping on the chair beside me ... he heard the squeaking and looked around to find out where it was coming from |
| 10:41.17 | haste | ehy Fisker |
| 10:44.52 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 10:45.19 | Fisker | this case will be fucking murder airflow wise when i've installed all my harddrives |
| 10:46.05 | Fisker | low profile heatsink = low profile though |
| 10:46.31 | Fisker | like the heatsink is 0,75cm and so is the fan itself or something |
| 10:46.34 | Fisker | that's messed up |
| 10:46.56 | haste | wat |
| 10:47.08 | mckenziemc | why do you have so many hard drives? |
| 10:47.32 | Fisker | because i can mckenziemc |
| 10:47.55 | mckenziemc | raid 0+1+2+3+4+5 ? |
| 10:48.11 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8GHf-aELjY |
| 10:48.16 | bluspacecow | cute kitteh is cute |
| 10:48.40 | Fisker | i think i'll listen to some friday friday bluspacecow |
| 10:48.50 | Fisker | anyway mckenziemc idk yet |
| 10:48.52 | bluspacecow | fry day ? |
| 10:49.04 | mckenziemc | fry bluspacecow imo |
| 10:49.12 | bluspacecow | :( |
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| 10:51.00 | mckenziemc | btw Fisker |
| 10:51.04 | mckenziemc | you know what sucks? |
| 10:51.19 | Fisker | yes |
| 10:51.19 | Fisker | you |
| 10:51.25 | mckenziemc | no |
| 10:51.54 | mckenziemc | earlier today i dd'd one hard drive onto another, but i think i had it plugged into a USB 1.1 port |
| 10:52.18 | mckenziemc | because it only went at 2.3 MB/s -- copying 20GB took 2 hours :( |
| 10:52.46 | mckenziemc | (i was using a USB adapter) |
| 10:53.35 | Fisker | QQ mckenziemc |
| 10:53.45 | Fisker | dd'ing harddrives are stupid as well btw |
| 10:53.57 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a Quantum Fireball |
| 10:54.00 | mckenziemc | why Fisker |
| 10:54.32 | mckenziemc | because you can't handle the concept of a hard drive as a block file? |
| 10:54.39 | Fisker | i can |
| 10:55.26 | Fisker | but no point in writing everything, including free space and partition tables, to the other drive |
| 10:55.44 | mckenziemc | depends |
| 10:56.24 | Fisker | is your harddrive 20GB big? |
| 10:56.26 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2353275731 |
| 10:56.27 | Fisker | if not, it was stupid. |
| 10:57.17 | mckenziemc | one was |
| 10:57.29 | bluspacecow | idiots thinking the tomb of darkness thing wasnt an apr fools joke |
| 10:57.50 | Fisker | i disagree mckenziemc |
| 10:58.04 | Fisker | also if you're dd'ing it to a bigger drive you'll have to repartition |
| 10:58.24 | mckenziemc | nah |
| 10:59.02 | mckenziemc | and repartitioning's not that hard anyway |
| 10:59.29 | mckenziemc | but it was from the bigger one to the smaller one, and i decided to see if windows was able to figure it out |
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| 11:03.13 | mckenziemc | but anyway, i have one block file of a hard drive i need to do data recovery for, and a couple others i want to do some virus checking on out of curiosity |
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| 11:03.41 | mckenziemc | oh nvm, Fisker died |
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| 11:08.53 | mckenziemc | wb Fisker |
| 11:08.58 | mckenziemc | did your computer die again |
| 11:13.02 | Fisker | no |
| 11:13.44 | Kalroth | poor fisker |
| 11:15.43 | haste | suddenly! |
| 11:15.53 | haste | sudden tiredness, hundreds of it |
| 11:16.13 | Fisker | no haste |
| 11:16.14 | Fisker | you may not |
| 11:16.20 | mckenziemc | hundreds of thousands of tens? |
| 11:16.50 | haste | [ |
| 11:16.56 | haste | damn you qwerty! |
| 11:17.09 | mckenziemc | wut |
| 11:17.14 | haste | I'll never get used to using backspace for... backspace |
| 11:17.31 | haste | usually abuses caps-lock for backspace. |
| 11:17.51 | mckenziemc | ??? |
| 11:18.31 | haste | I generally don't use qwerty mckenziemc, and my caps-lock key is usually changed to work as backspace |
| 11:19.09 | mckenziemc | madness |
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| 11:29.26 | airtonix | mckenziemc: agreed |
| 11:30.07 | airtonix | however, i can only remember the last time i used capslock because it was by mistake |
| 11:30.13 | airtonix | when i was reaching for tab |
| 11:42.03 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:45.12 | haste | using backspace has too large of a chance for me to hit Enter, so abusing Caps-Lock as backspace is great |
| 11:45.27 | haste | it's also on the home row, so it doesn't feel out of place |
| 11:45.42 | haste | _and_ I have to move my right hand less, which is win win |
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| 11:58.09 | airtonix | kinky |
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| 12:00.26 | haste | don't worry, I have enough problems just holding my coffee cup with my right hand :D |
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| 12:03.37 | bluspacecow | *stomach growls* |
| 12:03.39 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 12:03.48 | bluspacecow | think it might be time to hunt down some food. |
| 12:04.37 | mckenziemc1 | conjure some, silly mage |
| 12:05.28 | bluspacecow | IRL silly |
| 12:07.30 | mckenziemc1 | so? |
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| 12:18.07 | Kraps | ^ |
| 12:18.25 | Fisker | haste |
| 12:18.25 | Fisker | haste |
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| 12:18.44 | Fisker | i want my raccoons haste :( |
| 12:18.57 | mckenziemc1 | stack more haste |
| 12:19.04 | mckenziemc1 | MOAR |
| 12:19.06 | haste | more haste stack |
| 12:19.38 | Kraps | "You currently have no books checked out." hoho i disagree |
| 12:21.34 | Fisker | i want boobs checked out |
| 12:34.58 | Kraps | WTF http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw6J9OGSXpg |
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| 12:35.44 | Fisker | i see my friends |
| 12:35.46 | zenzio | amusing to watch people discuss old code... "I don't think there's anything okay about it" |
| 12:35.47 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:36.14 | zenzio | ohai peppy |
| 12:36.48 | Ycarene | Is there a decent IDE out there for WoW development? |
| 12:36.57 | Fisker | notepad |
| 12:37.16 | zenzio | what do you want the IDE to do? |
| 12:37.30 | zenzio | I seem to recall sylvanaar has been/is making some Lua IDE |
| 12:37.41 | Ycarene | Allow me to preview UI elements w/o having to launch the game every time. |
| 12:37.58 | zenzio | ah, then I don't know |
| 12:38.31 | Kraps | http://fuckyeahfictionalmaps.tumblr.com/ |
| 12:38.34 | Ycarene | I remember there used to be one coded in .net but it was tied to windows. |
| 12:38.34 | zenzio | heard about WoW UI Designer or somesuch, don't know if that's up to date (nor how it works) |
| 12:40.50 | zenzio | what kind of changes are you making where a simple reload won't suffice? Adding files? |
| 12:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | Morning to you too, Fisker-boo. |
| 12:41.50 | bluspacecow | good moanine Loppy |
| 12:41.56 | Fisker | hey bluspacecow |
| 12:42.13 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, blu-baby! |
| 12:42.15 | mikma | http://imgur.com/gallery/AXrtg |
| 12:42.50 | Kraps | Vatican blames Internet use for rise in Satanism http://blastr.com/2011/04/vatican-blames-internet-f.php |
| 12:46.05 | Kalroth | Well to be honest, Comcast is most likely on Satans side. |
| 12:48.26 | Fisker | hey Kalroth |
| 12:48.50 | Kalroth | yo |
| 12:52.39 | Lopeppeppy | Don't blame the internet for making it easy to stray. Blame YOURSELVES for making it easy to stray. |
| 12:56.33 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tNTcZOpZ7c |
| 12:56.38 | bluspacecow | funny kitteh is funny |
| 12:59.19 | Kraps | thats why you need to sin with a grin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mly-X8Ih9xE |
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| 13:01.39 | alestane_ | Hmm, looks like I left my other computer on IRC when I left it downloading stuff overnight. |
| 13:02.12 | airtonix | pirate |
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| 13:02.56 | bluspacecow | *hides minecraft server i put on alestane's machine- |
| 13:02.57 | alestane | No, in this case it was downloading open courseware. |
| 13:03.24 | Fisker | i'm cold bluspacecow |
| 13:03.39 | alestane | And apparently it's reconnected automatically. Amusing. Not something I'm going to be able to solve easily from work. |
| 13:03.57 | bluspacecow | *giefs hot soup to Fiskery Fisker* |
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| 13:04.36 | zenzio | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5535591/are-there-any-smart-cases-of-runtime-code-modification/5541416#5541416 |
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| 13:04.42 | Lopeppeppy | Put on some socks, Fisker. |
| 13:04.58 | alestane | Seriously? IE does not support SVG at all? |
| 13:05.32 | Fisker | IE9 does |
| 13:05.38 | Lopeppeppy | Well there you go. |
| 13:05.41 | Fisker | not sure if IE8 does |
| 13:06.01 | Kraps | any more leaks Fisker? |
| 13:06.08 | Fisker | naw Kraps |
| 13:06.16 | Kraps | :( |
| 13:06.53 | alestane | IE8 does not. |
| 13:07.20 | alestane | I will have to add a raster-based fallback to my splash page. |
| 13:08.22 | airtonix | alestane: Microsoft want you to use vml instead |
| 13:08.38 | airtonix | or their directx rendering plugin |
| 13:08.54 | alestane | Well of course, they want me catering to IE users. |
| 13:08.56 | airtonix | which ends up being implemented pretty much the same way in the end |
| 13:08.59 | Kalroth | use silverlight vml with direct games for windows live integration |
| 13:09.33 | Kraps | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/funny-facebook-fails-its-plagiariffic.jpg |
| 13:09.34 | Lopeppeppy | ... splash page? |
| 13:09.40 | airtonix | inorite |
| 13:09.41 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. |
| 13:10.08 | alestane | It's not funcitonally a splash page, Peppy, I just haven't put up any real content yet. |
| 13:10.12 | airtonix | Marketing (wild eyes) : And and and, we'll have a...(pause for suspense) splasshh page! |
| 13:10.46 | airtonix | (convinced by own delusional rantings) : Yeah that'll strengthen the brand! |
| 13:10.53 | Kalroth | and after the splashpage there'll be 2 popunders and a midi song |
| 13:10.55 | alestane | I don't believe in "click here to actually use the site" either. |
| 13:15.20 | Lopeppeppy | Those are still wildly popular with the "artistic" crowd, and they make people's eyes bleed, it's awesome the disconnect. |
| 13:17.58 | alestane | The purpose of a website is to expedite some sort of transaction. |
| 13:18.16 | alestane | Even if that is just the transfer of some information. |
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| 13:21.16 | alestane | http://xkcd.com/773/ isn't exclusive to universities, but it's a common problem there. |
| 13:23.08 | alestane | Kat works in local government, so I ended up getting a whirlwind tour of Virtual Town Hall websites in the area a few years ago. They're roughly as bad. |
| 13:23.21 | Ackis | is Hoard good? |
| 13:23.57 | alestane | In particular, town websites tend to face the challenge that towns find it easiest to organize the website along their department divisions, which have zero bearing on the visitor's questions and problems most of the time. |
| 13:28.46 | Fisker | goodbye cruel world |
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| 13:35.04 | airtonix | watches Fisker play Kurt Cobain Guitar Hero |
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| 13:39.22 | bluspacecow | @fisker |
| 13:39.28 | bluspacecow | do I want Hoard ? the game ? |
| 13:39.44 | Kalroth | if you have to ask! |
| 13:39.52 | Thunder_Child | bluspacecow: it's interesting |
| 13:39.55 | alestane | While there are any number of atrocities this site perpetrates against good design and implementation, probably the most overarching is their abuse on bulleted lists. |
| 13:40.02 | Thunder_Child | though not quite what i expected |
| 13:40.26 | alestane | Which they typically create with a two-column table, one column for the bullets, one for the list items. |
| 13:41.55 | alestane | Then, to create the bullet in the first colum, they put a div containing only an , having a class that styles it to use a bullet image as its background, a specific size and padding, a negligible font size, and to float all the way to the left edge of the table cell, for some inexplicable reason. |
| 13:42.27 | zenzio | because tables are bad! |
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| 13:43.57 | alestane | The only reason I can even think of for all this gyration rather than to just use list-style-image is to control the distance between the bullet and the list item. |
| 13:44.18 | alestane | If it were just the table, zenzio, I might just shake my head at it. |
| 13:44.33 | zenzio | alestane: :) |
| 13:44.47 | zenzio | clients/customers suck |
| 13:45.03 | zenzio | on a project a few of my coworkers were working on, they got at least three "final" designs |
| 13:45.08 | alestane | But in oder to create what is effectively an image element, they then jump through two or three MORE hoops just to recreate something they could have done more reliably and maintainably, with far less code. |
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| 14:04.56 | alestane | bundles Cairenn off to bed. |
| 14:08.21 | Cairenn | chuckles at alestane |
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| 14:12.35 | airtonix | alestane: yeah list-style-image is not that flexible (yet) |
| 14:18.19 | jnwhiteh | giggles |
| 14:18.33 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:18.45 | jnwhiteh | That's a review I got recently for one of my papers |
| 14:19.00 | jnwhiteh | It had less than 4 pages out of 20 having anything to do with Go =) |
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| 14:19.06 | ReiserFS | I DIDN'T KILL MY WIFE |
| 14:19.15 | jnwhiteh | ReiserFS: k. |
| 14:19.41 | alestane | Complete with spelling issues, jnwhiteh? |
| 14:19.46 | jnwhiteh | alestane: that'a verbatim. |
| 14:19.47 | ReiserFS | ubuntu 11.04 is weird jnwhiteh |
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| 14:19.59 | jnwhiteh | I particularly like the misspelling of 'contributions', twice, both with different spelling |
| 14:20.14 | jnwhiteh | the paper was accepted, despite the review :P |
| 14:21.11 | alestane | I normally don't approve of discounting peoples' opinions solely on the basis of their spelling, but in a high academic setting, there is a strong expectation that some care will be given to such things. |
| 14:21.21 | jnwhiteh | That's also his *entire* review |
| 14:21.23 | jnwhiteh | of a 20 page paper |
| 14:21.40 | alestane | Is ths from a professor? |
| 14:21.42 | jnwhiteh | other than the numeric 'marks' I received in four categories |
| 14:21.47 | jnwhiteh | its an anoymous review |
| 14:21.48 | alestane | this* |
| 14:21.49 | jnwhiteh | anonymous, rather. |
| 14:21.55 | ReiserFS | i have my headset on jnwhiteh |
| 14:21.55 | jnwhiteh | I'll never know =) |
| 14:21.58 | ReiserFS | but it's not plugged in |
| 14:21.59 | ReiserFS | :( |
| 14:22.04 | jnwhiteh | ReiserFS: that's sad |
| 14:22.12 | jnwhiteh | it wouldn't work with ubuntu anyway |
| 14:22.14 | alestane | Well, at least someone read it...maybe. |
| 14:22.19 | ReiserFS | probably not |
| 14:22.28 | ReiserFS | to get this nas/htpc stuff assembled |
| 14:22.29 | jnwhiteh | alestane: hehe |
| 14:22.38 | ReiserFS | i had to screw off the bottom to install the motherboard |
| 14:22.50 | ReiserFS | then i had to uninstall and reinstall the hdd cage with hdd's in it |
| 14:22.52 | airtonix | Fisker : UmadBro? |
| 14:23.05 | ReiserFS | then i have to unscrew the bottom again because the cables were so tight i couldn't even work with them |
| 14:23.25 | ReiserFS | so now i'm scared at what spaghetti mess is underneath that cage and psu |
| 14:23.37 | jnwhiteh | nom spaghetti |
| 14:24.25 | ReiserFS | i have absolutely no idea to find some kind of hardware monitor in ubuntu :( |
| 14:24.44 | airtonix | noob |
| 14:26.57 | ReiserFS | check this out airtonix |
| 14:27.35 | ReiserFS | actually nevermind that |
| 14:27.38 | ReiserFS | imgur is being a bitch |
| 14:27.47 | ReiserFS | probably discriminates against linux |
| 14:28.17 | ReiserFS | http://i.imgur.com/nN7Es.png |
| 14:28.20 | ReiserFS | fuck yeah |
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| 14:28.57 | ReiserFS | get it airtonix ? |
| 14:29.05 | ReiserFS | Alram |
| 14:29.07 | ReiserFS | i need you bro |
| 14:29.58 | ReiserFS | oh god |
| 14:30.02 | ReiserFS | how can you make linux so horrible? |
| 14:30.10 | ReiserFS | even terminal is better than this shitty unity ui |
| 14:30.14 | airtonix | ok thomas |
| 14:30.34 | airtonix | yeah unity sucks |
| 14:30.34 | ReiserFS | oh noes you know my real name airtonix |
| 14:30.56 | airtonix | ReiserFS: yes mr Tank Engine |
| 14:31.44 | airtonix | can't you just install ubuntu-desktop ? |
| 14:32.07 | ReiserFS | i don't even know |
| 14:32.13 | ReiserFS | i tried to install chatzilla |
| 14:32.14 | airtonix | i'm pretty sure you can |
| 14:32.26 | ReiserFS | but it just redirects me to a page where i can get the newest version |
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| 14:32.43 | ReiserFS | and i'm like "k what if i want to run the old version instead of spending 5000 days reading your horrible shit?" |
| 14:33.01 | ReiserFS | oh i get it! |
| 14:33.22 | ReiserFS | it's of course a browser AND an irc client |
| 14:33.28 | ReiserFS | + it crashes when i try to access the irc chat |
| 14:33.29 | airtonix | ... |
| 14:33.30 | ReiserFS | cool |
| 14:33.36 | airtonix | just use xchat |
| 14:33.58 | airtonix | or pidgin or empathy |
| 14:34.04 | ReiserFS | wut |
| 14:34.08 | ReiserFS | it doesn't even have xbmc |
| 14:34.10 | ReiserFS | lazy gits |
| 14:34.10 | airtonix | or one of the many other irc clients |
| 14:34.14 | airtonix | lol |
| 14:34.30 | airtonix | you need the ppa for that |
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| 14:36.54 | Adys | jnwhiteh: ping |
| 14:37.13 | jnwhiteh | pong |
| 14:41.00 | bluspacecow | time to wash the dishes. |
| 14:41.04 | bluspacecow | *washes fisker* |
| 14:42.11 | ReiserFS | much appreciated |
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| 14:44.25 | TC-Laptop | ~ping |
| 14:44.25 | purl | ~pong |
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| 14:47.12 | foxlit | "device driver software was not successfully installed. Click here to continue" |
| 14:47.17 | foxlit | It's a mouse. Way to go, Windows. |
| 14:47.26 | alestane | Is it a fancy mouse? |
| 14:47.29 | TC-Laptop | yet it still works |
| 14:47.43 | foxlit | it is a fancy mouse, but it doesn't work. |
| 14:47.44 | foxlit | yet. |
| 14:50.36 | Kraps|w | for 5 minutes i couldnt remember who the VPOTUS is |
| 14:51.17 | foxlit | could you remember what the VPOTUS does, though? |
| 14:51.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sneezes a lot? |
| 14:52.29 | alestane | Gesundheit. |
| 14:52.30 | Kraps|w | one of them said he just has to ask how the president is every morning |
| 14:56.02 | foxlit | So apparently it didn't like my hub |
| 14:57.22 | foxlit | I have a sinking feeling addons won't be able to detect whether you're using the old or the new steelseries wow mouse :( |
| 14:58.05 | Lopeppeppy | and how exactly would they go about detecting that? Honestly, I can't imagine how they would, unless WoW itself does, and addons can parse that info out of WoW. |
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| 14:59.00 | foxlit | "and how exactly would they go about detecting that?" "[...] addons won't be able [...]" why ask me? :) |
| 14:59.57 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: whats the difference? |
| 15:00.03 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: layout |
| 15:00.08 | jnwhiteh | as long as they both send button1-button25 it doesn't matter |
| 15:00.16 | foxlit | Matters to me. |
| 15:00.27 | jnwhiteh | .. alright. |
| 15:00.38 | foxlit | Thing is, wow detects whether you are using a mouse with too many buttons, but not which version, which could've been neat |
| 15:01.35 | foxlit | [default button remapping, in case you're wondering -- the old one had button4/button5 in odd places, so it was more convenient to bind to 14/15] |
| 15:04.06 | TC-Laptop | i'm with jnwhiteh on this one foxlit how does the physical layout of the mouse have anything to do with the addons? |
| 15:04.20 | foxlit | foxlit: [default button remapping, in case you're wondering -- the old one had button4/button5 in odd places, so it was more convenient to bind to 14/15] |
| 15:04.26 | jnwhiteh | That doesn't help.. |
| 15:04.35 | foxlit | Doesn't it? |
| 15:04.42 | TC-Laptop | no |
| 15:04.46 | jnwhiteh | If I swap out my steelseries mouse and plug in a logitech, I have to re-bind things so they're comfortable fo rmew |
| 15:04.50 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure how this is any different? |
| 15:05.07 | foxlit | Defaults, really. |
| 15:05.16 | foxlit | If you install my addon with a normal addon, it'll pick sane bindings |
| 15:05.29 | foxlit | If you install my addon with the old wow mouse, it'll pick sane, yet different, bindings. |
| 15:05.43 | nixium | !seen foreplay |
| 15:05.48 | foxlit | If you install my addon with the new wow mouse, it'll pick insane bindings because it thinks you're using the old mouse. :( |
| 15:05.52 | TC-Laptop | you need ~ for seen |
| 15:06.00 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: ask for an API? |
| 15:06.36 | TC-Laptop | or prompt for a choice when you load the addon for the first time |
| 15:06.39 | TC-Laptop | or somesuch |
| 15:06.49 | jnwhiteh | ^^ what he said makes the most sense |
| 15:06.51 | foxlit | I was hoping to avoid having to staticpopup users. |
| 15:06.56 | Lopeppeppy | I like that solution, TC! |
| 15:07.27 | TC-Laptop | right, but only do that when it recognises the wow mouse |
| 15:07.35 | TC-Laptop | should cut down on popups |
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| 15:10.20 | Kraps|w | TC-Laptop: you looked at the potato thing? |
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| 15:11.30 | foxlit | But anyway, it's going to end up as some sort of configuration option, I guess. The tone of the original line was meant to imply some degree of resignation to this. |
| 15:12.04 | jnwhiteh | I don't think we're disagreeing with you, it would be nice to have it |
| 15:12.17 | jnwhiteh | but we did not understand the issue, and it wasn't clearly explained until we pressed further =) |
| 15:12.23 | foxlit | It's just not the sort of thing that I can think of a way to make readily available :) |
| 15:12.41 | jnwhiteh | the WoW client may have a version number, no? |
| 15:13.26 | foxlit | I'm not sure how tightly coupled this stuff is. |
| 15:13.54 | foxlit | It could be that they're actually talking to the steelseries driver. On the other hand, they could just be asking DX whether there's a device with some number of inputs and flagging themselves to accept those. |
| 15:13.59 | jnwhiteh | but you can always ask, that's what I've said =) |
| 15:14.15 | jnwhiteh | "hey guys, do you have the details of what WoW mouse you've connected to? is it possible to expose that information so addons can use it?" |
| 15:14.28 | TC-Laptop | Kraps|w: huh? |
| 15:14.36 | Kraps|w | on steam |
| 15:16.02 | Kraps|w | the 13 indie games |
| 15:16.23 | TC-Laptop | what about it |
| 15:16.27 | TC-Laptop | i own most of them |
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| 15:19.30 | Lunessa | station. |
| 15:19.54 | Kraps|w | you read about the ARG that might maybe possibly be going on because of it? |
| 15:20.04 | airtonix | wut |
| 15:20.19 | airtonix | Action Replay Gadget? |
| 15:20.40 | Kraps|w | lol |
| 15:20.56 | Kraps|w | alternate reality game |
| 15:21.00 | Kraps|w | i think |
| 15:21.07 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 15:21.42 | Lunessa | You mean "augmented reality"? |
| 15:21.51 | airtonix | no |
| 15:21.54 | Kraps|w | yeah |
| 15:22.14 | Kraps|w | although alternate reality sounds better |
| 15:22.20 | Kraps|w | :p |
| 15:22.35 | airtonix | colour starting with "A" ? |
| 15:22.46 | Kraps|w | color |
| 15:22.59 | airtonix | Over here we speak the Kings English(tm) |
| 15:23.18 | Kraps|w | we speak 'Merican |
| 15:23.24 | airtonix | Mexican? |
| 15:23.33 | Kraps|w | hoho |
| 15:23.48 | TC-Laptop | Kraps|w: yea, supposed to be a huge portal 2 tie-in or some such |
| 15:24.02 | airtonix | Nueral Shunt of gtfo |
| 15:24.05 | Lopeppeppy | Camexican |
| 15:24.17 | airtonix | ok |
| 15:24.24 | airtonix | i don't even |
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| 15:30.22 | Lunessa | Haha.... http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2325035265?page=2#22 |
| 15:30.48 | nevcairiel | old |
| 15:30.52 | nevcairiel | but it was good |
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| 15:43.14 | Kraps|w | thats what she said |
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| 15:46.22 | Lunessa | WTB: Genuine Sleep in liquid or gel-cap formulation. |
| 15:46.41 | Lopeppeppy | Ambien fix everything, Lunessa! That stuff knocks me absolutely OUT. |
| 15:46.47 | Lunessa | pop a pill, all the benefits of 8 hours of sleep. |
| 15:47.15 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: No, I refuse to take hypnotics. They leave me all strange for 2-3 days after. |
| 15:47.27 | Lopeppeppy | massage? |
| 15:47.35 | Lunessa | Happy ending? |
| 15:48.00 | TC-Laptop | define strange? |
| 15:49.21 | ReiserFS | i'm sick TC-Laptop |
| 15:49.34 | Lunessa | TC-Laptop: Like my brain was filled with mud and struggling to speak, think or perform intellectual tasks with any clarity or precision, no social filter on things I say, and deadened emotional state. |
| 15:49.51 | TC-Laptop | ReiserFS: take two fiskers and call me in the morning |
| 15:49.55 | airtonix | ReiserFS: umadbro? |
| 15:50.05 | ReiserFS | no u |
| 15:50.11 | airtonix | btw... |
| 15:50.14 | airtonix | nou |
| 15:50.17 | Lunessa | If I'm going to take repeated doses of a hypnotic to fake sleep, then I might as well just get a lobotomy. |
| 15:50.18 | ReiserFS | nou |
| 15:50.18 | Kraps|w | i once took a nyquil-type thing for a cold and went to meet a friend, i had to ask him to walk me home because i could barely open my eyelids to the halfway point |
| 15:50.37 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa! *weg* |
| 15:50.38 | airtonix | Lunessa: smoking some really good indoor weed also helps |
| 15:50.42 | ReiserFS | weg? |
| 15:50.48 | TC-Laptop | Lunessa: so the same as being drunk |
| 15:51.04 | airtonix | short for Suppeer Atomic Wedgie, Mark 6 |
| 15:51.04 | Lopeppeppy | Wicked Evil Grin |
| 15:51.11 | Lunessa | TC-Laptop: You've never seen me drunk. But, no, similar, but not the same. |
| 15:51.56 | ReiserFS | i'm gonna go with airtonix on this one Lopeppeppy |
| 15:51.59 | airtonix | Lunessa: or you could do some excercise |
| 15:52.10 | ReiserFS | you totally mean "Suppeer Atomic Wedgie, Mark 6" |
| 15:52.12 | airtonix | like pushups or chinups |
| 15:52.26 | Lopeppeppy | two person push ups! |
| 15:52.34 | airtonix | no |
| 15:52.54 | ReiserFS | you get a free letter stating you're fired |
| 15:53.04 | ReiserFS | everyone gets a free letter stating they're fired |
| 15:53.35 | ReiserFS | i'm eating a pickle |
| 15:53.48 | Lunessa | airtonix: Actually I would need to do those many hours before sleep since exercise tends to wake me up. :) |
| 15:54.04 | ReiserFS | btw TC-Laptop |
| 15:54.28 | ReiserFS | http://i.imgur.com/nN7Es.png |
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| 15:54.50 | airtonix | oh |
| 15:55.24 | TC-Laptop | ReiserFS: replace that with 3TB drives and i want |
| 15:56.10 | ReiserFS | maybe when they're economically viable |
| 15:56.25 | ReiserFS | (Says the dude who bought Kane & Lynch when it was 49,99) |
| 15:56.31 | ReiserFS | Kane & Lynch 2 that is |
| 15:56.51 | nevcairiel | psh, amateurs |
| 15:56.52 | nevcairiel | http://pastey.net/148729 |
| 15:57.02 | ReiserFS | btw |
| 15:57.06 | ReiserFS | wtf is the clock? |
| 15:57.45 | ReiserFS | do you used ZFS nevcairiel ? |
| 15:57.48 | ReiserFS | use* |
| 15:58.12 | TC-Laptop | nevcairiel: 8 slots for 12 TB? |
| 15:58.13 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 15:58.18 | nevcairiel | TC-Laptop: raid6 |
| 15:58.23 | ReiserFS | zfs = win |
| 15:58.38 | TC-Laptop | i see 8 raid devices |
| 15:58.41 | airtonix | is it doe |
| 15:58.58 | nevcairiel | 8x2tb, with 2 discs parity |
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| 15:59.08 | TC-Laptop | ah |
| 15:59.22 | TC-Laptop | wouldnt raid 10 be better? |
| 15:59.41 | nevcairiel | that would only give me 8tb of data |
| 15:59.43 | nevcairiel | how is that better |
| 15:59.52 | airtonix | why not use LVM ? |
| 16:00.01 | TC-Laptop | 10 not 1+0 |
| 16:00.09 | TC-Laptop | 10 is 5 but with 2 hot swapable |
| 16:00.12 | TC-Laptop | iirc |
| 16:00.17 | nevcairiel | 10 is 1+0 |
| 16:00.22 | airtonix | hoho |
| 16:00.45 | nevcairiel | the real levels are only 0-6 |
| 16:00.58 | ReiserFS | i'm gonna raid2 then |
| 16:01.10 | ReiserFS | wins |
| 16:01.10 | nevcairiel | i dont think anyone really uses 2-4 |
| 16:01.17 | nevcairiel | but hey, you're free to do so .P |
| 16:01.20 | airtonix | ReiserFS: thats actually the exact HDs i'm buying too |
| 16:01.27 | ReiserFS | no airtonix |
| 16:01.29 | ReiserFS | i bought them all |
| 16:01.32 | airtonix | oh yes |
| 16:01.33 | ReiserFS | in the world |
| 16:01.39 | airtonix | only 6? |
| 16:01.41 | nevcairiel | oh btw, mine are WD20EARS too |
| 16:01.49 | nevcairiel | but 4 from last year, and 4 from last month |
| 16:01.54 | airtonix | \o/ |
| 16:02.30 | nevcairiel | still have controller and case space for 4 more discs |
| 16:02.32 | nevcairiel | some day |
| 16:02.41 | airtonix | which case ? |
| 16:04.11 | ReiserFS | nevcairiel if i had to get more i would have to somehow make something like Doctor Who's timemachine |
| 16:04.24 | ReiserFS | i'll actually see if i got some good shots on my phone |
| 16:04.30 | ReiserFS | so you can see how much of a mess it is |
| 16:04.51 | mckenziemc1 | oooooh Fisker |
| 16:04.53 | nevcairiel | gotta love those SAS cables, they make it all look so neat |
| 16:05.00 | mckenziemc1 | i figured out why you're always sick |
| 16:05.07 | mckenziemc1 | you're alergic to Fiskers |
| 16:05.17 | ReiserFS | what cables you got nevcairiel ? |
| 16:06.04 | Kraps|w | whos fisker |
| 16:06.26 | nevcairiel | i dunno, your default 8087 to 4xsata cable |
| 16:06.37 | mckenziemc1 | who's Kraps|w |
| 16:07.15 | ReiserFS | http://i.imgur.com/KkNTw.jpg |
| 16:07.51 | ReiserFS | I actually cracked one of the cables when trying to put it in |
| 16:08.05 | ReiserFS | i.e. on the connector itself |
| 16:08.06 | mckenziemc1 | that's Kraps|w? |
| 16:08.18 | Lunessa | Your case, it's too small. :P |
| 16:08.28 | ReiserFS | yes |
| 16:08.37 | ReiserFS | but atleast it's not a jerk like you :( |
| 16:09.00 | mckenziemc1 | nub |
| 16:09.16 | ReiserFS | i got a bukkit |
| 16:09.25 | Kraps|w | whos mckenziemc1 |
| 16:09.26 | Lunessa | Also, what the hell are you storing on all that drive space? I'm just curious because I rarely seem to fill even a terabyte locally. |
| 16:10.02 | ReiserFS | linux, the entire apt-repository for ubuntu, etc. |
| 16:10.04 | Kraps|w | pirated movies |
| 16:10.09 | ReiserFS | hides behind lies |
| 16:10.10 | Kraps|w | what what? |
| 16:10.25 | olafski | blargh spent 5k on a formula and another k to level my enchanting to 515, only to figure out you need to be lvl 84 to get the runed elementium rod :( |
| 16:11.24 | Lunessa | olafski: Yeah, the last 10-15 points of all non-gathering professions require you to unlock your faction's base in Twilight Highlands. |
| 16:11.42 | alestane | Except maybe Alchemy. |
| 16:12.03 | Lunessa | Actually, Jewelcrafting is an exception. |
| 16:12.05 | olafski | jewelcrafting too I think |
| 16:12.08 | olafski | yeh |
| 16:12.15 | olafski | bleh.. guess I have to level my mage then |
| 16:12.20 | olafski | I don't like pure dps classes =( |
| 16:12.24 | Lunessa | So, I should say "most" not "all" |
| 16:12.25 | mckenziemc1 | introduces Fisker's RAID to a large electromagnet |
| 16:12.28 | ReiserFS | no screwdriver nooooooooo |
| 16:12.32 | ReiserFS | bad screwdriver |
| 16:12.39 | ReiserFS | picking up like 10 screws instead of 1 :( |
| 16:12.47 | mckenziemc1 | the screwdriver is the least of your problems |
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| 16:19.31 | Kraps|w | ReiserFS: your screwdriver iss a sluut |
| 16:19.46 | ReiserFS | oh my |
| 16:21.37 | airtonix | walk with gusto |
| 16:22.07 | airtonix | ReiserFS: swing those arms |
| 16:22.45 | Lopeppeppy | Strut, strut, on the catwalk! |
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| 16:24.48 | airtonix | FiskerFS, like a boss! |
| 16:25.43 | airtonix | ReiserFS: ewwww you're not using removable hotswap racks |
| 16:25.49 | bluspacecow | ni ni fisker :D |
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| 16:27.21 | Kraps|w | did the little piggy cry weeweewee all the way home? |
| 16:29.09 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/146744 |
| 16:29.12 | airtonix | rawr |
| 16:29.25 | airtonix | i'm invading LA |
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| 16:50.42 | dafzor | stay puft? are they ghostbusters aproved? |
| 16:51.16 | Lopeppeppy | I want to know if they are cog-a-thingie tested. |
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| 16:56.04 | Kraps|w | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/167590/dev-watercooler-stats-on-gear |
| 17:00.37 | Kraps|w | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/167434/blizzards-blatant-favoritism |
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| 17:27.12 | dafzor | i always figured they could easily change the look/armor type of one item with the tech they developed for heirloom, that would solve the int plate issue, ofc i might be wrong :\ |
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| 17:29.58 | Kraps|w | herpderp armond white gave tangled a bad review |
| 17:30.44 | nevcairiel | who gave what a review |
| 17:32.57 | Kraps|w | this guy, a massive troll reviewer http://www.rottentomatoes.com/critic/armond-white/ |
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| 17:43.32 | zenzelezz | Kraps|w: he reviews trolls? |
| 17:44.32 | Kraps|w | hoho zenzelezz |
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| 18:12.31 | TC-Laptop | Kraps|w: look at that, they actually had a real midweek madness this week |
| 18:12.36 | TC-Laptop | have* |
| 18:12.55 | Kraps|w | i'm at work, whats up? |
| 18:14.10 | Kraps|w | there |
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| 18:16.43 | TC-Laptop | Kraps|w: you cant look at a website at work? |
| 18:17.27 | Kraps|w | i'm kinda paranoid :/ |
| 18:17.37 | TC-Laptop | about? |
| 18:17.49 | TC-Laptop | also, you can IRC but not look at web pages? |
| 18:18.23 | Kraps|w | dont judge me! |
| 18:18.59 | TC-Laptop | why not? though i am more curious than judgmental. |
| 18:19.20 | Kraps|w | fine 1 sec |
| 18:20.44 | Kraps|w | aliens vs predator? |
| 18:20.57 | TC-Laptop | oh, i didnt mean you had to go look |
| 18:21.24 | TC-Laptop | honestly, i think last week steam was going to do some amazing thing and dropped the ball |
| 18:21.44 | TC-Laptop | i think the potato sack was a secondary part to it |
| 18:24.28 | Kraps|w | whens easter? you think they'll have something then? |
| 18:26.17 | TC-Laptop | thats what i hear |
| 18:26.40 | TC-Laptop | easter/spring break is supposed to be when they do a big one |
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| 19:36.57 | Shirik|Gh | pro tip |
| 19:37.16 | Shirik|Gh | when you put "what's the catch" in your FAQ and start it off with "there are no catches", don't put an asterisk there |
| 19:37.39 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause that's just wronglyful. |
| 19:37.58 | amro | they're not catches. they're stipulations. |
| 19:38.07 | Lopeppeppy | Working as intended!! |
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| 19:51.34 | Fisker | oh airtonix |
| 19:51.36 | Fisker | i'm mad now |
| 19:51.39 | Fisker | very mad |
| 19:51.42 | Kraps|w | you get a free ipad shirik! just click here! |
| 19:51.48 | Adys | whats an ipad |
| 19:54.09 | Lopeppeppy | Ahem. Step over here into the restroom, and I'll show you. |
| 19:55.08 | Kraps|w | :| |
| 19:59.01 | alestane | I'm pretty sure there were some cracks about that when it was announced. |
| 19:59.27 | Shirik|Gh | Is there an app for that? |
| 19:59.57 | Fisker | Shirik|Gh |
| 19:59.58 | Fisker | imad |
| 20:00.21 | Kraps|w | umad |
| 20:03.23 | Fisker | exactly |
| 20:08.06 | Shirik|Gh | ok back to work |
| 20:09.13 | Kraps|w | y umad Fisker? |
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| 20:20.42 | ckknight | Fisker: lol y u mad tho? |
| 20:22.08 | Kraps|w | hes madcuzbad |
| 20:22.45 | Fisker | naw man Kraps |
| 20:22.48 | Fisker | anyway ckknight |
| 20:22.51 | Fisker | so there i was |
| 20:23.02 | Fisker | upgrading my rig with the new B3 stepping motherboards |
| 20:23.05 | ckknight | got into one little fight and your mom got scared? |
| 20:23.07 | Fisker | so i started the computer |
| 20:23.17 | Fisker | "bootmgr is missing, fuck you - Steve Ballmer" |
| 20:23.26 | Fisker | "oh i c" |
| 20:23.42 | Fisker | so i booted linux and spent several hours trying to get a windows iso from my raid so i could reinstall |
| 20:23.51 | Fisker | then i found a windows 7 dvd i had lying around instead |
| 20:23.53 | Fisker | so i rebooted |
| 20:24.10 | Kraps|w | i almost threw my phone in the garbage |
| 20:24.13 | Fisker | "Starting windows, oh and btw that bootmgr issue was just a joke, fuck you" |
| 20:24.39 | nevcairiel | I had that too, I think its somehow UEFIs fault |
| 20:24.42 | Fisker | so i have infact spent several hours in a shitty operating system because of you ckknight :( |
| 20:24.46 | Fisker | it is nevcairiel |
| 20:24.57 | ckknight | you were using Linux? |
| 20:25.12 | Fisker | it shouldn't even be looking for bootmgr nevcairiel |
| 20:25.27 | Fisker | since as far as i know that's the BIOS counterpart of whatever UEFI uses |
| 20:25.41 | nevcairiel | it didnt know any better because te uefi entry went missing |
| 20:25.49 | Fisker | same here |
| 20:26.04 | nevcairiel | I dont remember how i fixed it |
| 20:26.14 | nevcairiel | probably just fixboot or whatever the command was |
| 20:26.45 | Fisker | i didn't do shit |
| 20:26.49 | Fisker | which is the most annoying part |
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| 20:32.14 | Fisker | sigh nevcairiel |
| 20:32.17 | Fisker | i gotta reactivate |
| 20:32.22 | Fisker | over the phone |
| 20:32.28 | nevcairiel | change of serial numbers does that to you |
| 20:32.41 | Fisker | didn't change serial number |
| 20:32.48 | Fisker | and it shouldn't do it :< |
| 20:32.57 | Fisker | maybe a 50/50 roll of the die |
| 20:32.59 | nevcairiel | your board change all its identifiers |
| 20:33.13 | nevcairiel | thats like 100 devices in windows world |
| 20:33.18 | Fisker | i've done it before where it will reactivate regardless of a huge hardware change |
| 20:33.27 | Fisker | infact the last time was when i went from x58 to p67 |
| 20:33.45 | nevcairiel | i always reinstall when i change the motherboard |
| 20:35.47 | Dagmar | I tell windows to STFU and take the new hardware |
| 20:36.33 | Fisker | i agree |
| 20:36.33 | Dagmar | ...of course, I install all the new drivers for the new hardware before I ever power the sob down to begin with |
| 20:38.39 | Dagmar | Any more lip from that f**ker and I'll virtualize the damn thing under Ubuntu |
| 20:39.11 | Fisker | fisker? |
| 20:39.11 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:39.14 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 20:39.15 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/MLcl0.jpg |
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| 20:39.53 | Dagmar | BEEG array |
| 20:40.14 | nevcairiel | thats individual discs, how is that an array |
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| 20:53.18 | Fisker | oh my god |
| 20:53.28 | Fisker | this might be the stupidest moment i have ever experienced |
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| 20:53.35 | Dagmar | Hardly. |
| 20:53.43 | Fisker | it looks like windows will not run unless it has a network connection |
| 20:53.57 | Fisker | Well it shall be more than welcome to find and install the drivers for me |
| 20:54.02 | Fisker | >:E |
| 20:54.22 | Fisker | oh there it was |
| 20:54.39 | Fisker | just wanted to restart for some stupid reason then |
| 20:55.14 | Fisker | or maybe not |
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| 20:57.09 | Fisker | yep |
| 20:57.13 | Fisker | it really is that stupid :D |
| 20:57.22 | Fisker | won't allow the setup to finish without a network connection |
| 20:57.30 | Fisker | guess i'll have to go through safe mode then |
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| 21:04.12 | Adys | Shirik|Gh ? |
| 21:04.23 | Adys | whats the special page for block logs on mediawiki |
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| 21:08.03 | Adys | ah, Special:Log/block |
| 21:11.24 | foxlit | marauders are such bullshit :( |
| 21:12.30 | Dagmar | "[...] and brought the encounter down to a reasonable two hours." |
| 21:12.36 | Dagmar | Two HOURS? |
| 21:12.39 | foxlit | 'sploits. |
| 21:13.07 | Dagmar | Clearly some people have wildly variant definitions for 'reasonable' |
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| 21:26.39 | Kraps | can i use a lightly damp towel paper to clean my ipods screen? |
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| 21:27.58 | Kraps | yes/no/abort |
| 21:28.04 | kd3|netbook | a |
| 21:28.13 | Kraps | :( |
| 21:29.05 | zenzelezz | clean it of what, the fat smears from your fingers? |
| 21:29.26 | Kraps | you're a nice person zenzelezz |
| 21:29.48 | Dagmar | You have to lick it first. |
| 21:29.55 | Kraps | like what |
| 21:29.56 | kd3|netbook | ooh, mythbusters season starts tomorrow night |
| 21:30.00 | Kraps | lick* |
| 21:30.24 | zenzelezz | not sure how to interpret that. Anyway, I clean my phone's screen just by rubbing it with a t-shirt sleeve, a blanket, or whatever else is at hand |
| 21:30.48 | Fisker | no kd3 |
| 21:30.56 | Dagmar | Old (but clean!) underwear |
| 21:31.02 | alestane | I have a little microfiber cloth that works well for lenses and screens. |
| 21:31.06 | alestane | Ta, all. |
| 21:31.12 | Fisker | i will not allow it kd3|netbook |
| 21:31.15 | kd3|netbook | water spray + clean cloth. wet cloth used on screen |
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| 21:31.19 | kd3|netbook | "wet"* |
| 21:31.30 | Dagmar | If you're a man and you're of legal age to drink, odds are you own some underwear old enough to have been gradually turned into 'lint-free' cloth through years of washing |
| 21:32.03 | Fisker | i am downloading a file kd3|netbook |
| 21:32.05 | TC-Laptop | preferably use something that is microfiber |
| 21:32.09 | Fisker | 2 infact |
| 21:32.16 | kd3|netbook | great. anything good? |
| 21:32.19 | Fisker | no |
| 21:32.21 | Fisker | just drivers |
| 21:32.28 | kd3|netbook | hah |
| 21:32.58 | Fisker | k had lulz btw kd3|netbook |
| 21:33.09 | Fisker | someone with the name "Goatze" complained about his named being changed |
| 21:33.17 | kd3|netbook | lmfao |
| 21:33.19 | Fisker | then he claimed that GM's were deleting his game settings as a punishment |
| 21:33.53 | Fisker | and he claimed that "Goatze" meant "God almighty" in japanese |
| 21:34.07 | Fisker | then i looked his character up and saw his arena team named "Onal beads" |
| 21:34.10 | Fisker | i saw what he did there |
| 21:34.31 | Fisker | poor guy |
| 21:34.40 | Fisker | totally randomly and accidentally stumbling upon "Goatse" |
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| 21:34.45 | Fisker | no malicious intent at all |
| 21:34.49 | Fisker | amirite? |
| 21:34.57 | kd3|netbook | yup |
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| 21:38.10 | Kraps | THAT GUY NEEDS TO BE INTERNET-MURDERED |
| 21:38.18 | Kraps | stupid caps |
| 21:38.24 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 21:38.32 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 21:38.46 | Fisker | HEY |
| 21:39.18 | Kraps | imma jailbreak my ipod Fisker |
| 21:39.31 | Fisker | if you had one |
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| 21:41.10 | Kraps | i know :( |
| 21:42.50 | Kraps | why are apple dicks who dont support flash? |
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| 21:44.11 | zenzelezz | because they probably figure that it's a good idea to skip a plugin poor enough to cause browsers to implement out-of-process plugins in order to avoid dying because of it |
| 21:44.13 | kd3|netbook | oh, Shirik|Gh; this is why I voted beefy: http://blog.melchua.com/2011/04/05/vote-beefy-seriously/ |
| 21:44.44 | Fisker | doubtful zenzelezz |
| 21:46.06 | kd3|netbook | also, that enables the link to "Bacon" for F17 |
| 21:46.10 | Kraps | http://uk.kotaku.com/5789088/world-exclusive-first-look-under-the-hood-of-the-next-unreal-engine |
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| 21:58.46 | Fisker | no Kraps |
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| 22:07.13 | Fisker | i want to sleep Kraps |
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| 22:23.08 | Kraps | Fisker |
| 22:23.23 | Kraps | my ipod is jailbroken |
| 22:24.11 | foxlit | is that like housebroken, but in jail? |
| 22:26.26 | Kraps | no |
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| 22:28.11 | TC-Laptop | Kraps: my phone is running gingerbread |
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| 22:29.03 | Kraps | too bad theres no android touch |
| 22:29.23 | TC-Laptop | my android is a touch |
| 22:29.35 | Kraps | but its a phone too |
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| 22:34.10 | Kraps | "He says a knee hurts, but there is a better place that hurts more, even for a woman. I ask him if he has ever kicked a woman and he says he has kicked many!" |
| 22:35.16 | Cairenn|afk | o.O |
| 22:35.53 | Kraps | dont worry Cairenn, its from the assassins creed FB game :p |
| 22:35.59 | Cairenn | ah |
| 22:36.22 | Cairenn | I was just wondering what you were quoting |
| 22:36.32 | Cairenn | because it's a very odd quote |
| 22:37.16 | Kraps | its a 7(?) year old quoting a psychotic hitman |
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| 22:37.24 | Cairenn | ah |
| 22:40.45 | Kraps | the Borgias were pretty intense |
| 22:41.29 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 22:42.30 | Fisker | you don't have an ipod Kraps |
| 22:42.43 | Kraps | u jelly? |
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| 23:03.42 | Kraps | wow the game followed this pretty closely http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/96/Cesareborgia.jpg |
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| 23:05.16 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
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| 23:10.13 | Adys | Cairenn: "its a 7 year old quoting a psychotic hitman" - you can't really tell, with Kraps. |
| 23:10.22 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 23:11.13 | Adys | Maldivia: cookies if you find the miracle day trailer |
| 23:11.28 | Adys | starz took it off their own useless website, took them down off youtube and everywhere |
| 23:11.41 | Kraps | Adys |
| 23:11.51 | Kraps | i am disappoint |
| 23:11.59 | Adys | and i am not caring |
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| 23:51.53 | Kraps | watching http://www.sho.com/site/order/preview.do#/Borgias_s01_e01 |
| 23:53.27 | Kraps | its censored, boo |
