IRC log for #wowuidev on 20110309

00:00.02Ackis!api wintergrasp
00:00.03lua_botCanQueueForWintergrasp: Returns whether the player can queue for Wintergrasp (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CanQueueForWintergrasp)
00:00.38Ackis!api GetWintergraspWaitTime
00:00.38lua_botCould not find a match for 'GetWintergraspWaitTime'.
00:02.15mckenziemcugh, missed a dungeon invite because firefox was covering most of my screen and i'd forgotten to enable Sound in Background : /
00:02.24Ackisl2alttabber
00:03.16mckenziemc@describe alttabber
00:03.17Repomckenziemc: No project found that matches 'alttabber'
00:03.26Ackis@desribe alttab
00:03.32mckenziemc@describe alt-tabber
00:03.33Repomckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/alttab/. AltTabber. Plays sound when a ready check, LFG queue, battleground queue, or world battleground queue pops even if you have sounds turne...
00:03.35AckisAllakhazam-Rexxar <-- is that who I think that might be?
00:04.04mckenziemcAckis: i would've forgotten to enable the addon :)
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02:11.16PrimerAnyone know how to type unicode into WoW?
02:11.42alestaneThe same way you type it into anything else, I think.
02:11.45PrimerI know that accented characters (yes, I know these are not unicode) are alt+numeric key numbers
02:12.05Primerbut, for shit like ♫
02:12.10Arrowmasterthat has nothing to do with wow
02:12.30Arrowmasterfigure out how to type it on your system an you should be able to type it in wow
02:12.30alestaneTo see the results properly, though, you will need to provide WoW with a more complete Unicode font.
02:12.36PrimerI'm in Linux
02:12.47Primerin xchat, I use a key sequence
02:12.55Primerfor the above musical note
02:13.02Arrowmasterwhat sequence?
02:13.09alestaneDoes that key sequence work with other programs, like gedit?
02:13.11Primermeh, it's a macro, I'd have to look it up
02:13.31alestaneAnd are you running WoW under wine, or in a different system?
02:13.33mckenziemca lot of symbols just come up as ? in wow
02:13.44Primerwell, that musical note does not
02:13.44Arrowmastermckenziemc: thats the font issue
02:13.49mckenziemcyes
02:13.56alestaneWoW does understand Unicode, but the default fonts have a limited glyph set.
02:14.18alestaneYou can do font substitution with a broader font and see the correct glyphs.
02:14.40Primeryes, I figured this would be the case
02:14.57Primerbottom line is, I'd like to know how to TYPE that ♪
02:14.59Primer♫
02:15.00alestaneHow do you confirm the commit message in git? Using it from scratch for my own project for the first time, trying to finalize the initial commit.
02:15.00Arrowmasterlua> ("♫"):gsub(".", function(x) return "\"..x:byte() end)
02:15.00lua_botArrowmaster: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>'
02:15.18Arrowmasterlua> ("♫"):gsub(".", function(x) return '\'..x:byte() end)
02:15.19lua_botArrowmaster: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>'
02:15.37alestanelua> ("♫"):gsub(".", function(x) return [[\]]..x:byte() end)
02:15.37lua_botalestane: \226\153\171, 3
02:16.08alestanelua> ("♫"):gsub(".", function(x) return "\\"..x:byte() end)
02:16.09lua_botalestane: \226\153\171, 3
02:16.33alestanelua> ("♫"):byte()
02:16.34lua_botalestane: 226
02:18.13Arrowmaster226B
02:18.26Arrowmasterdamnit
02:18.39Arrowmasterwhy isnt ctrl-shift-u working
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02:18.58Primer≫
02:19.02Primerhit space afterwards
02:19.03alestanelua> ("♫"):byte(1, -1)
02:19.04lua_botalestane: 226, 153, 171
02:19.48alestanelua> print(string.char(226, 153, 171))
02:19.49lua_botalestane: ♫
02:20.02Arrowmasteroh shit thats right i switched the input method to XIM
02:20.46alestanePrimer, you should be able to put the expression "string.char(226, 153, 171)" into a macro somewhere and have it display.
02:21.06alestaneConcat it into another string or send it to chat or whatever.
02:21.38ArrowmasterPrimer: i dont respond to version querys
02:21.40Primeralestane: the addon I'm using shows the actual characters in quotes, when opened in a unicode capable editor, in a unicode capable terminal (vim in rxvt-unicode)
02:21.45PrimerArrowmaster: then tell me!
02:21.51Arrowmasterxchat
02:22.33Primeralestane: that worked
02:23.00Primer/run print(string.char(226, 153, 171))
02:23.02Primerthat is
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02:24.14alestaneshowers MoonWitch with champagne!
02:24.27Primermakes me wonder if there are any other glyphs in this font that the CharacterMap addon doesn't cover
02:24.42Arrowmasterprobably lots
02:29.32Arrowmaster<Multi_key> <U1D15F> <U1D172>   : "𝅘𝅥𝅲"   U1D164 # MUSICAL SYMBOL ONE HUNDRED TWENTY-EIGHTH NOTE
02:29.37Arrowmasterim questioning how to even type that
02:31.11Arrowmasterbut i can type this in just 3 key strokes ☺
02:32.03kd3hell, the font I'm using can't display that
02:32.06kd3wtfs
02:32.21Arrowmasterits a smiley face
02:32.26mckenziemcdoes [harm] resolve to true or false when the target is hostile but unattackable? (like bosses that you can't attack till they finish their script)
02:32.42kd3no, no, not the smiley face. the 128th note
02:32.55Arrowmasteroh
02:35.03mckenziemchow many flags does that note have? (it's not rendering for me either)
02:35.24kd3it shoud have... 5?
02:35.27kd3thinks
02:36.38kd3ya
02:40.56DagmarWoo these new Dalish elf-girls are cuuuute
02:41.23Arrowmaster...
02:41.28Arrowmaster…
02:43.55alestane"Dalish"?
02:51.11Corrodiasdragon age 2, perhaps?
02:51.56alestaneCould be. I haven't had any time for Dragon Age yet, so don't know the lore.
02:59.02DJJeff*cough*
02:59.03DJJeffhttp://i.imgur.com/qJylN.jpg
03:00.07KrapsDagmar: pics
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03:02.53DJJeffanyone else see any potential of this new blizzard style facebook site "blizzbook"?
03:03.36Arrowmasterhuh?
03:04.08DJJeffthey do have adverts for it on various sites
03:04.24DJJeffI think I found out about it on curse I could be wrong tho
03:05.03DJJeffI am not the founder just stumbled upon it
03:05.57DJJeffI was thinking about doing something similar just didnt have the funding to buy the social network software crap
03:06.23Arrowmasterwait there is actually software you can buy now?
03:06.45Arrowmasterprobably some horrible crap
03:06.46DJJeffhow else would you get it?
03:06.52DJJeffhacked?
03:07.12Arrowmasterare you a fucking moron? you write it yourself like EVERY site has done
03:07.13DJJeffah I think the term is "nulled"
03:08.10DJJeffand Arrowmaster its not as easy as installing wordpress in 3 steps
03:08.33DJJeffit takes time and effort to code something like that from scratch
03:08.39Arrowmasterexactly
03:08.46Arrowmasterwhich every major site has done
03:09.27DJJeffare you saying "Mark Zuckerberg" solo coded facebook? or did he have a team of coders to help him
03:09.38Arrowmasterteam of coders
03:10.04Arrowmasteri can assure you that facebook is 100% in house, none of it was purchased from anywhere else
03:10.06CideI thought DJJeff got banned for being an idiot
03:10.20DJJefflol@Cide X_X
03:10.23DJJeffplease dont start
03:10.41ArrowmasterCide: he did, multiple times but they keep forgetting to make it permanent so eir unbans him after a day
03:11.19DJJeffalmost had a decent convo there X_X
03:11.24DJJeffthat was odd Cide
03:11.50DJJeffmore random then me and Fisker put together
03:12.08Cideyeah, like that was going anywhere but "you're an idiot"
03:12.24DJJeffand *cough* who are you?
03:12.29Arrowmasterhint, it wasnt going anywhere else
03:13.16Cairennguys, stop it, please and thank you
03:13.20DJJeffCide are you that bored that you need to push me into a corner
03:13.37CideI'm playing dragon age 2 having an excellent time, thank you
03:13.52DJJeffthen please enjoy your game :)
03:14.05Thunder_Childyour playing DA2, how can you be having an excellent time?
03:14.11Cidedon't like it?
03:14.12Thunder_Childyou're*
03:14.18mckenziemclol Thunder_Child
03:14.22Thunder_Childhavent played it yet tbh
03:14.27Cidebut thinking facebook is a purchased software suite of some kind forced me to step in
03:14.28Thunder_Childjust memories of one
03:14.40DJJeffdidnt say that at all
03:14.55bluspacecowhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198604_204370312907940_100000049197839_808407_8312627_n.jpg
03:15.15DJJeffyou can purchase software "like" facebook
03:15.23DJJeffto setup your own social networking site
03:15.35Cideoh really
03:15.43Cidefind me a suitable facebook replacement software
03:15.43DJJeffif you didnt catch that part then you didnt pay attention
03:16.10DJJeffCide...... google is your friend
03:16.21DJJeffor even better go back to your game
03:16.24Cideyes, but I don't feel like providing a source to your claim
03:16.28Arrowmasteri can find you some similar software but its not for purchase
03:16.28Cidebe a scientist and do so yourself
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03:16.55DJJeffits not a "claim" its a prooven fact
03:17.07Cide[citation needed]
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03:18.44DJJeffgoogle "facebook clone" is an easy way to start looking
03:18.55bluspacecow~ping Cairenn
03:18.55purlpong Cairenn
03:19.00bluspacecowhttp://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/4/14/129157564809762678.gif
03:19.14Kraps"you are connected to nyc.gov which is run by (unknown)"
03:19.20Krapssnerks
03:19.39DJJeffhere is 1 example already http://www.isocial.in/
03:19.50Cairennbluspacecow: awww, what a terrible thing to do to that poor cat!
03:19.57bluspacecow:)
03:20.15bluspacecowhttp://www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/164900d1298758377-animated-gif-thread-1298346752272.gif
03:20.18bluspacecowbetter ?
03:20.22DJJeffpoor cat :(
03:20.45Cairennawww, poor little bitty kitten!
03:20.51DJJeffcat chases red laser pointer = epic win
03:20.56bluspacecowhttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188443_10150195304224782_756594781_9022620_7647428_n.jpg
03:21.05Cairenn:)
03:23.24DJJeff$800 for facebook clone aint bad X_X
03:24.04DJJeffwould rather donate that kinda money to more needy ppl but w/e
03:25.37DJJeffcould probley just hire a team of coders and make a better one
03:26.10Cideonly problem is you would need to spend a few orders of magnitude more to get isocial to the point where it's actually useful
03:26.21Cideoh well
03:26.43Cidedepending on how much you want to massacre the term "facebook clone" I suppose it qualifies
03:26.46DJJeffthese are just outdated demos
03:27.10DJJeffno one buys their crappy software they get abandon
03:27.42DJJeffproof of concept I guess... room for improvement
03:28.19DJJefftime to add
03:28.28DJJeff"open source" to the google search
03:29.08DJJeff1st result was http://www.elgg.org/
03:29.43DJJeffeven university of florida uses it
03:30.13Cidenow THAT's a testament to its usefulness
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03:46.56mckenziemc1i got mind-controlled by a mob in an instance and it made me cast Survey >.>
03:47.50Krapshttp://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2011/03/blizzard_nasdaq.jpg
03:48.33DJJeffmckenziemc1: pics?
03:48.44DJJeffdid you hit the "prnt screen" key?
03:48.53mckenziemc1not quickly enough : /
03:49.16DJJeffdarn
03:49.54kd3oh ye gods, blizz is running nasdaq from inside sc-2?
03:49.57avloxhttp://www.webmonkey.com/2010/09/diaspora-unveils-its-open-social-code/
03:49.58kd3cowers in fear
03:50.02avloxjoined the convo a bit late..
03:50.08avloxbut that looks cool
03:51.05mckenziemc1too bad blizzard shortened the cast time on Survey :p
03:51.14DJJeffand poor Cide called me an "Idiot" how sad
03:52.47DJJeffhttp://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/05/facebook-rogue/
03:52.53DJJeffFacebook’s Gone Rogue; It’s Time for an Open Alternative
03:54.10DJJeffnice article.... actually worth reading the first few paragraphs
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03:55.44DJJeff"facebook is a way for advertisers to "target you"!"
03:55.57alestaneBasically.
03:56.30DJJeffblanks my mind from thinking about poor charley sheen.... to this
03:56.46alestaneBut since it's designed to make their advertising dollar more effective by pitching things to you that you're more likely to be interested in, that's not terribly malevolent.
04:05.25KrapsDJJeff: are you WINNING?
04:10.17DJJeffwinning what?
04:10.24DJJeffthe world of warcraft?
04:10.46DJJeffor our doom of 2012
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04:13.16Krapshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QS0q3mGPGg
04:13.34DJJeffautotune
04:13.44DJJeffare you.... bleeping bleeping bleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
04:13.49DJJeffthis is CRAAAAAAAAAP
04:14.21DJJeffits all that "justin bieber" and the rest of todays music is made of
04:14.42DJJeffabsolute garbage
04:15.25DJJeffbut yes when depression is so high in this digital world we live in.... even crap is encouraged and praised
04:17.42alestaneAs long as there are enough people who don't think it's crap.
04:18.10Xyphoidi love the phrase 'today's music'
04:18.54mikmahttp://i.imgur.com/opKYU.jpg
04:19.26DJJeffwell Xyphoid it sure aint music from back when it was awesome
04:19.44DJJeffdid you know that Vinyl is "true" sound and anything digital is compressed
04:20.24Xyphoidi can't tell if you're being ironic or metaironic or postironic
04:21.31DJJefflol
04:21.37DJJeffok now this is 1/2 decent
04:21.37DJJeffhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0D4oZwCsA
04:21.43DJJeffdouble rainbow song
04:22.01DJJeffonly cause its funny and "original"
04:22.19DJJeffnot a failed remix of someone elses song
04:23.03DJJeff1:35 they actually sing it acapella
04:25.16Krapshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44mqiBrB0zI
04:26.53Krapsheres another good one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg5SwyTvAHw
04:30.30DJJeffcreative and original stuff made by people on youtube is way better then crap produced by fail artists like justin bieber
04:30.41DJJeffthere is no denying that
04:41.41DJJefffinally found an acoustic version of bieber
04:41.42DJJeffhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuK2nQ7ULyk
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05:07.43AdysI need a good app to record sound input, output and partial video output for linux
05:07.44Adysany idea?
05:14.16Thunder_ChildAdys: i assume adyswh is you?
05:14.27Adyswhere?
05:14.32Thunder_Childyoutube
05:14.35Adysyes
05:15.51DJJeffI would suggest Audacity but you asked for video
05:16.00Adysyeah i need video too
05:16.07Adysand i dont want to bother having to sync audio and video
05:16.27DJJeffcant work on a MAC OS for the video
05:16.30DJJeffand sync later
05:16.52DJJeffusing final cut, avid, premiere... etc
05:17.30DJJeffmight try a google search for freeware / open source video editors
05:25.42Xinhuanhttp://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dragon-age-ii/user-reviews
05:25.48Xinhuanwow, 80 negative reviews already
05:26.07Xinhuanon the first day
05:27.34Corrodiassomebody seems to be upset.
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05:50.43Kraps"ohhhh the game is dumbed down" people suck
05:52.46d[karl]bthere's way too much QQ over wow
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05:56.52d[karl]bweird that the user reviews of DA2 are so much worse than the critic reviews
05:57.14DagmarMaybe they wanted epic battles
05:57.37DagmarI'll wager most of them don't realize this storyline takes place at apparently the same damn time as Dragon Age
05:57.39Krapsd[karl]b: see above
05:58.00d[karl]bcritics dont have expections like morons do
05:58.01DagmarMerril's a hoot
05:58.16DagmarI thought I was f**ked tho when Flemeth showed up
05:59.00DagmarHm... lots of darkspawn about to eat me, then... oh great a dragon, too?
05:59.16Dagmar...then OH CRAP it's FLEMETH
05:59.36DagmarAlexstrasa should be that scary
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06:16.04sylvanaari just watched the season finale of merlin - i love this sickbeard thing
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06:18.43ckknight_I need an adult
06:20.15karl_w_whttp://www.buzzfeed.com/dailypicksandflicks/study-says-staring-at-boobs-makes-you-healthier-2ghf
06:20.21karl_w_wthis is the sort of study we need
06:20.39sylvanaardidnt android get the boob jiggler app
06:20.56TrelaIs the gold cap in WoW still the same as it was before Cataclysm?
06:21.04ckknight_nope
06:21.10nebula169it was raised in 4.0 iirc
06:21.11ckknight_in 4.0.1, it switched to int64
06:21.15nebula169^
06:21.21TrelaAwesome!
06:21.49DJJeffkarl_w_w: thumbs up for video
06:21.50ckknight_pretty sure it's int64 rather than uint64, mind you
06:22.07sylvanaareither way
06:22.22ckknight_let's get back to jiggling boobs
06:22.24ckknight_those are fun
06:22.41ckknight_I have a personal challenge to motorboat girls on the first date.
06:22.52ckknight_past four times it's been a resounding success
06:23.17sylvanaarhttp://phandroid.com/2010/02/21/apple-enjoy-your-iphone-prudes-android-party-on/
06:25.00nebula169i don't understand why they don't just tact on ratings and incorporate apps into the parental controls
06:25.15nebula169if they're so concerned about the children
06:25.23sylvanaaruncharted territory
06:26.08nebula169itunes already has controls for music purchases, seems applicable to apps as well
06:26.18sylvanaaryou know iboobs has achievements
06:26.23nebula169lol
06:27.05sylvanaarheres the right link http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2011/03/06/iboobs-reborn-undaunted-the-famous-chest-app-comes-to-android/
06:28.22sylvanaar"Monster Shake"
06:28.24sylvanaartoo funny
06:28.39ckknight_lol, a little silly
06:29.18sylvanaarthe video is funny
06:30.22DJJeffstare at boobs was more lol
06:30.31DJJeffblood pressure is hella high
06:31.00sylvanaarlol you can alter the physics
06:31.09DJJeffhow many people have some form of boobs on their computers "Wallpaper"
06:31.25DJJeff95% of teen men
06:31.29ckknight_I never did
06:31.31DJJeffor more
06:31.39sylvanaari didn't either
06:31.42sylvanaarlol
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06:32.31DJJeffsylvanaar: you contrib to WIM's dev?
06:32.39DJJeffwow im
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06:33.06ckknight_he's all like "Down with Prat, WIM's where it's at"
06:33.23DJJeffPazaa just a bit..... missing in action
06:33.34DJJeffwebsites a tad outta date
06:34.11sylvanaaryeah, im "looking after it", but i have been kinda slack on the wow stuff lately - i have another project i have been spending all my time on
06:34.26DJJeffno worries mate
06:34.37DJJeffchatter does what prat does
06:34.48sylvanaaryep
06:35.11nebula169but with a fancier config!
06:35.30ckknight_sylvanaar: what's this other project?
06:35.36DJJeffchatter has a lot to config
06:35.49sylvanaarckknight_: the lue IDE plugin i have been working on
06:35.54sylvanaaruh
06:35.56sylvanaarLua
06:36.23ckknight_ah, okay
06:36.32sylvanaari have spent the last year working on it, its just too much fun
06:36.56DJJeffI see chatter is outta date too..... might switch to prat X_X
06:37.16sylvanaarthey are both about the same feature wise DJJeff
06:38.02DJJeffyou've tried them both?
06:38.06sylvanaari think chatter does more frame type enhancments than prat, and prat does more textual stuff - but I have never really done a comparison of the two
06:38.12DJJeffI tend to use addons that stay up2date
06:38.30DJJeffcause patches come out faster then addons can keep up with
06:42.20DJJeffPazza is listed as a co author of prat?
06:42.33DJJeffalmost sounds like too many projects going on
06:42.51DJJeffand wim might get abandon
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06:50.48zenzelezzhttp://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/03/08/2041257/Android-Devices-Are-Hives-of-License-Violations - "What the hell? The article doesn't mention Android separately. It has one set of numbers for both Android and iOS."
06:53.03ckknight_zenzelezz: facts are what keep us from being truly enlightened.
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07:08.46sylvanaarhey android is the #1 smartphone OS now - they are going to start getting all the bad press
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07:21.43sylvanaarDJJeff: pazza and i are friends so we added each other to our projects
07:22.30DJJeffah ;-)
07:23.11sylvanaarsince hes not playing anymore i have just tried to keep wim going
07:23.30DJJeffmight be tuff for just yourself
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07:24.16DJJeff01satkins seems long gone
07:24.37sylvanaarwho is that
07:24.59DJJeffcurse has 01satkins listed as a co author
07:25.03sylvanaaroh
07:25.49DJJeffthey might be for the emoticons
07:25.51DJJeffthe smiles
07:26.12DJJeffwhich I doubt will ever break
07:26.17sylvanaarmy mode of operation is to cleanly remove features that break
07:26.55DJJefffair enough
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07:28.18sylvanaari was playing wow for a while there but just stopped again a few weeks ago
07:28.38DJJeffI stopped cause I ran outta game time
07:28.58DJJeffthe shoutbox on wimaddon.com forums is semi active
07:29.06sylvanaari want to focus on doing something career-wise
07:29.22DJJeffwhat field?
07:29.30DJJefftons of work in programming ;-)
07:29.48sylvanaarthats what i do, retail POS programming
07:29.52sylvanaarits boring
07:30.05DJJeffoh what fun *cough*
07:30.32zenzioprogramming for a living would be more fun if you didn't have to deal with customers
07:30.33DJJeffmight wanna try for something a bit more challenging that pays more
07:30.33sylvanaarand even though I have been working in mobility for 10 years, my solutions were all "ahead of the technology"
07:30.42sylvanaarso its like i wasted all that time
07:31.46sylvanaari have been doing handheld mobile point-of-sale since 1998
07:32.08sylvanaarits just now starting to take off
07:32.28sylvanaarand not on the platforms i spent all my time on
07:33.34Fiskersylvanaar
07:33.37Fiskeri'm significantly awesome
07:33.40sylvanaarbut yeah, my job search didnt turn up much - i think my skills are out of date
07:33.40Fiskerhey ckknight
07:33.47Arrowmasterwhat were some of your 'ahead of the technology' solutions?
07:34.19zenziowhat I've noticed in programming job listings is they seem to always list much higher requirements than they actually require
07:34.25DJJeffsylvanaar: any thoughts on going back to school?
07:34.29sylvanaarin 1999 we did mobile shopping with Gap
07:34.41Arrowmasterzenzio: thats every tech job
07:34.51sylvanaarthey just press released their "first" mobile POS system as being the apple system
07:34.55Arrowmasterentry level jobs now require a 4 year degree and 2 years of experience
07:34.59zenzioArrowmaster: wouldn't surprise me, but I'm only familiar with programming
07:35.41Arrowmasterive been trying to find a network tech job and everybody wants insane requirements
07:35.56zenziosylvanaar: out of curiosity, what is a "mobile shopping device"?
07:36.56sylvanaarzenzio: http://www.motorola.com/business/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=d3da7b103d175110VgnVCM1000008406b00aRCRD
07:38.08sylvanaarall these ipod touch solutions that are being tried out...can yuo drop an ipod 5 ft to concrete and have it not break
07:38.33Arrowmasternope
07:38.58Arrowmasterand what happens when the battery dies? buy a new one!
07:39.06sylvanaari dunno if that requirement is just ingrained in me from all the years of talking about it
07:39.08sylvanaarright
07:39.33Arrowmastersince the battery will die about 1 month after the warranty expires
07:40.13sylvanaari actually did a mobile shopping pilot with Sears on iphone using a special case that added a scanner and magstripe reader
07:41.56sylvanaari dunno - i have invested so much in mobility career-wise it seems silly to leave that area right when it takes off
07:41.58zenziosylvanaar: oh, I see - pretty neat
07:42.22Arrowmasterexcept now people are being stupid about it
07:42.56sylvanaaryeah, they were always kinda stupid - they wanted 'mobility' but they didnt think throught the practicalities of it
07:43.04sylvanaarlike
07:43.06Arrowmasterthere is a reason companies didnt use 'consumer' electronics in the past
07:43.23sylvanaarwhere are you going to bag up all these items you are ringing up on your mobile device
07:43.45sylvanaarand if that is a  fixed station, why not just put a register there
07:44.34sylvanaarbut, i have done tons of pilot projects that pay the bills even though I know what they will conclude in the end
07:44.42Arrowmasterwell theres another solution to that but it turns the mobile device into more of something people use for wedding registries
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07:45.04Fiskerhey Arrowmaster
07:45.07Fiskernot so hey karl_w_w
07:45.11karl_w_w!api track
07:45.11lua_botFound 14 possible matches for 'track'.  Please be more specific
07:45.17karl_w_wwell list them
07:45.22karl_w_w!api achievement
07:45.22lua_botFound 45 possible matches for 'achievement'.  Please be more specific
07:45.24Fiskerthat karl_w_w guy is a huge jerk
07:45.25sylvanaaryeah, gift registry is another application, we have done a couple of those solutions as well
07:45.26karl_w_w-_-
07:45.33Fiskerhe's asked to be more specific
07:45.35Fiskerbut is he?
07:45.36Fiskernooooooooo
07:45.38karl_w_w!api gettrack
07:45.38lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'gettrack': GetTrackedAchievements, GetTrackingInfo
07:46.00sylvanaaralso credit enrollment, pricecheck kiosks, etc
07:46.06karl_w_w!api achievementinfo
07:46.06lua_botFound 2 possible results for 'achievementinfo': GetAchievementInfo, GetAchievementInfoFromCriteria
07:47.14sylvanaarok, going to try and get some sleep so i can make some more mobile magic happen tomorrow
07:48.10Fiskerjeg så julemanden kysse karl_w_w
08:02.35TrelaFFFFFFFF
08:02.49TrelaWhy is editing a button label in Flash so fucking hard?
08:06.05mckenziemc1you have to curse at it first
08:06.14TrelaI have.  :(
08:06.17TrelaFlash is evil.
08:06.45mckenziemc1more
08:06.46TrelaI can find tons of stuff to edit how the button looks, but not change the text from "Label".
08:10.08TorhalTrela: Flash? WHat the hell?
08:10.22TrelaTorhal: Attempting to write a flash video chat.
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08:10.37TorhalSOmetimes you frighten me.
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09:32.33AdysIriel: why are you offline =(
09:34.03Kalrothhe's hiding from you!
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09:57.27zenziohttp://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/funny-celebrity-pictures-being-obvious-you-are-doin-it-right.jpg
10:05.04airtonixTrela: i thought that was trivial
10:06.09SinusPiHmmmm. Is there a maintained list of found 4.1 UI/API changes somewhere..?
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11:01.46*** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || BC 2011 Announced! http://bit.ly/hlEtVv || Happy Birthday Cide!
11:03.35Adyshappy birthday, oldie
11:03.55Adys(not you, Cairenn)
11:03.59Adyshugs Cairenn
11:04.01Cairenn:p
11:07.44jnwhitehSinusPi: given that its not out yet, no, not really
11:07.50jnwhitehi'll run an API scan once its released
11:07.58jnwhitehIriel may also have a thread
11:08.06SinusPiPTRs are in, though. Thought someone would scan it already.
11:08.11jnwhitehbut anything would be premature right now
11:08.16jnwhitehI dont waste my time
11:08.19jnwhitehit changes too often
11:08.29SinusPiWell, point.
11:08.44jnwhitehin a long ptr or major version change, i will
11:08.47jnwhitehbut this is neither =)
11:10.11SinusPifair enough, just asking :)
11:10.27jnwhiteh=)
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11:29.02Fiskeromg jnwhiteh
11:29.03Fiskerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRhGPVYRsOY
11:29.05Fiskeromg
11:29.07Fiskerhello cid
11:29.10Fiskerdamn you cide
11:29.54Fiskerlolwat
11:30.00Fiskeroneiric ocelot
11:30.38jnwhiteh:P
11:30.46Fisker:P with me
11:31.01Fiskeri'm getting the optimus 2x jnwhiteh :(
11:31.12airtonixumadbro
11:33.14Fiskerno airtonix
11:34.20airtonixwhy not
11:36.45airtonixFisker: i demand
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11:40.17Fiskerdo it airtonix
11:41.44Fiskerhey foxlit
11:41.55foxlitHey Fisker.
11:42.01foxlitIs the main character cthulu?
11:42.16airtonixdoes it to Fisker
11:42.17Fiskerwhy whatever do you mean?
11:42.30airtonixFisker: i did it
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11:48.04Fiskerslaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout
11:48.19Fiskeri'm winning airtonix
11:48.37StanzillaFisker: does it come with 2.3 now?
11:48.56FiskerOptimus 2x?
11:48.57Fiskernot yet
11:49.01Stanzillayes and :/
11:49.26Fiskeranyway my Nexus One is kinda annoying me now
11:49.33Stanzillawhy
11:49.57FiskerThe power button doesn't work that great anymore
11:50.27Fiskerthe charger port doesn't keep my cable very well anymore
11:50.53Fiskera little part of the casing was chipped off on one the sides (which is annoying when you use the touchscreen)
11:50.59airtonixDagmar: if i buy a domain name zed.net, and it points to a particular ip address, would calls to ecks.zed.net also resolve to the ip address of zed.net ?
11:51.28FiskerThen of course there's the multitouch issue there's been there from the start, but that wasn't that much of a problem on it's own
11:51.39airtonixDagmar: or does the dns record have to be created to allow wildcard subdomains ?
11:53.06StanzillaFisker: hrm, will the optimus get the same fast updates as the nexus s?
11:53.13Stanzillastill unsure what to get :(
11:54.06Fiskeryeah airtonix
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11:54.15Fiskerhere you just make *.domain.tld
11:54.41Fiskernaw Stanzilla
11:54.44Fiskerbut it will be dual core
11:55.07Fiskerand i'm thinking the optimus will be the easiest to hack
11:55.27airtonixStanzilla: get an iphone brah
11:55.54Stanzillanevar
11:56.26StanzillaFisker: maybe I should wait for the third google phone :P
11:56.35airtonixumadbro
11:56.35Fiskersure
11:56.39airtonixi knew it
11:56.46Fiskeri would as well if the nexus one wasn't nagging me right now
11:57.01airtonixhow much will it cost you Fisker
11:57.02StanzillaI have a 2004 samsung phone
11:57.04Stanzillacan't get worse
11:57.10Fiskermoney airtonix
11:57.17airtonixi have a 2011 samsung phone
11:57.20Fisker:o Stanzilla
11:57.32Stanzillaand it's sms storage is full
11:57.39Stanzilla200 sms max makes me sad
11:57.46airtonixStanzilla: samsung customer service, Where the fuck is it?
11:57.53Stanzillaairtonix: the what?
11:57.56airtonixi know
11:58.00airtonixEXACTLY
11:58.09Fiskerjust buy a new phone already Stanzilla
11:58.10Fiskeror did
11:58.12Fiskercide
11:58.12Fiskerdie
11:58.18airtonixThnkyooooou, come gain.
11:58.38StanzillaFisker: yeah I should, does the nexus s store more than 200 sms?!?! :p
11:59.09airtonixi'm pretty sure samsung don't have people reading & replying to the emails, they just use Goblin Chat Therapist
11:59.36Fiskeri'm sure it does Stanzilla :P
11:59.58Stanzillaawesome update for me then
12:00.27Fiskeri would get a tegra phone though
12:00.58Stanzillajust for the dual core or any more reasons?
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12:01.32airtonixcause it's nvidia
12:01.44airtonixdoes there need to be any other reason
12:02.09Fiskernaw airtonix
12:02.14airtonixyaw Fisker
12:02.36Fiskernaw airtonix
12:02.46airtonixyaw Fisker
12:03.06Fiskernaw airtonix
12:03.15airtonixumadbro
12:03.32Fiskernoumadbro
12:03.41airtonixyeahumadbro
12:03.52Fiskerhttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4140/this-just-in-lg-optimus-2x
12:04.22Fiskerbam
12:05.48Fiskerumad?
12:05.52StanzillaI'm still worried about updates
12:05.59StanzillaI hate not getting updates :p
12:06.22FiskerWell you'll get 2.3 (or 2.4, whatever it gets called)
12:06.27Fiskerbut likely it'll be haxored
12:06.32Fiskerthen you can just go CM
12:07.42airtonixCM sux
12:08.00Fiskerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG8hkTCQc5k&feature=player_embedded#at=70
12:08.05Fiskerbam
12:08.41Fiskerso airtonix
12:08.46Fiskerdid you get bam'd?
12:09.07StanzillaFisker: cm=Cyanogen=
12:09.10Stanzilla*?
12:09.12Fiskeryes
12:10.55Stanzillameh meh
12:11.11Fiskerwut?
12:11.49airtonixi'm mad Fisker
12:11.54StanzillaI don't know what to do :P
12:13.11FiskerWhen proper hax0ring is done you can just install an app from market properly
12:17.53airtonixFisker: did you look at kaoler clock ?
12:18.05Fiskeryes
12:18.06Fiskerdo not want
12:18.09airtonixi mean kaloer clock
12:18.22airtonixwhy not
12:18.46Fiskerbecause it's ugly
12:18.47Fiskershit
12:18.48Fiskeretc.
12:18.57airtonixi'm going to murder you
12:19.18airtonixwhy is it shit
12:21.21airtonixi guess you can't answer because i killed you
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12:24.18Fiskerwhy isn't it shit airtonix ?
12:25.16airtonixbecause it looks nice
12:25.19airtonixawesome
12:25.20airtonixetc
12:27.53Fiskeri'm winning
12:27.57Fiskerand it's not looking nice
12:28.10Fiskerlooks like a clock i'd have purchased 30 years ago
12:28.25airtonixumadbro
12:28.43airtonixalso, you just lost the game
12:28.50Fiskerno
12:29.56Kalrothyou did
12:30.11Fiskerno Kalroth
12:30.15Fiskeri'm biwinning
12:30.20Kalrothperv
12:31.14Fiskerno
12:31.16airtonix‘I came here to study Information Systems – not Indigenous culture’. This statement does not reflect an understanding of the role of the IT professional.  Discuss.
12:31.18airtonixi lol'd
12:31.33Fiskerk?
12:32.05airtonix‘I came here to study Perfume Retail Psychology – not Indigenous culture’. This statement does not reflect an understanding of the role of the Perfume Retail Professional. Discuss.
12:32.48Fiskerk?
12:35.26Fiskerk
12:45.25Fiskerairtonix
12:45.29Fiskeryou're digging your own grave
12:48.45airtonixwhy
12:49.00airtonixyoumadbro
12:49.05airtonixare u
12:49.30Fiskerno
12:49.34Fiskerjust stating a fact
12:49.39airtonixis it
13:03.24Fiskerhey airtonix
13:05.02jnwhitehSinusPi: I just reverted that edit, no need to say something is gone or not for the next version of WoW
13:05.17jnwhitehjust means I have to go through and remove them all. As soon as 4.1 is released, the website will 100% reflect the active API as always =)
13:06.01Fiskerwhy would you do that jnwhiteh ?
13:06.03jnwhitehbut I appreciate it =)
13:07.26jnwhitehbut if you're that eager for it, i'll see how long its goign to take to update my PTR and run a diff for you
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13:11.39Fiskerhey Cide
13:11.48Fiskeryou are credit to team
13:13.27Fisker:(
13:14.16jnwhitehSinusPi: http://apidiff.pastey.net/146941
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13:15.04airtonixFisker: ysounface?
13:15.21jnwhitehSinusPi: that's 4.0.6 -> 4.1.0 build 13707
13:16.23SinusPijnwhiteh: sorry for being overzealous ^^;  how do you get the 13707 files, though - extracting the MPQs, despite their patch-craziness?
13:16.37jnwhitehhas nothing to do with files
13:16.43jnwhitehmy API scans run in-game
13:16.48jnwhitehFrameXML compares are easy
13:16.55jnwhitehthey're all on github and about 15,000 other places =)
13:17.00jnwhitehand you can extract them
13:17.27SinusPiaah, right, that's just a function/metatable scan, not source diff, my bad
13:17.34Fiskeri will destroy you airtonix
13:17.35jnwhitehI run a script that prepares the addon with bootstrap information, run it in-game and then parse the saved variables so they can be diffed
13:17.42jnwhitehsource diff is easy
13:17.43jnwhitehone sec
13:18.22SinusPigithub has 13707 extracted already?
13:18.38Xinhuanbtw, GetBuildInfo() still incorrectly returns 40000 (4th return) on PTR
13:18.46Fiskeroh my god Xinhuan
13:18.49Fiskerstop the presses
13:19.02foxlitXinhuan: the framexml toc is still 40000, so it's correct.
13:19.02airtonixstops Fisker
13:19.10Fisker:<
13:19.13Xinhuanhmm
13:19.15SinusPiXinhuan: incorrectly or correctly, it loads 40000 interface addons without treating them as old.
13:19.29Xinhuanthat's the first time blizz has not updated the TOC for a major patch then
13:19.38SinusPi'yet', probably.
13:20.06jnwhitehSinusPi: no, 13707 isn't on github, for some reason.
13:20.33Fiskergits jnwhiteh a hub
13:20.39SinusPiFisker: git.
13:20.41jnwhitehfeel free to fork the repo and commit the 13707 extract
13:20.57Fiskerno u SinusPi
13:20.59jnwhitehwait no
13:21.00jnwhitehits there
13:21.04jnwhitehhttps://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/commit/74dd03c0588d5baacd4a0d225e551b515cdc5e8b#FrameXML
13:21.11jnwhitehone sec then
13:22.16jnwhitehSinusPi: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser
13:24.30jnwhitehnow its even updated to show 4.0.6 vs 13707
13:24.31SinusPioo. Usefulness! Thank you very much. :]
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13:25.02Xinhuani still can't actually access the PTR :/
13:25.36Fiskerthat's what you get
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13:31.18Fiskerhey Dotted
13:31.48Dottedhey Fisker
13:32.21Fiskerhey
13:32.33Fiskerwhy so oister?
13:39.16Fiskerstolenlegacy Dotted Cide
13:41.33SinusPijnwhiteh: are the diff/minidiff/getglobal links in framexml browser supposed to work, or not yet..?
13:41.43SinusPijnwhiteh: they all produce a blank response
13:41.50Stanzillaworks for me
13:42.00SinusPioo, not all
13:42.26SinusPihttp://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/mindiff/AddOns/Blizzard_ArchaeologyUI/Blizzard_ArchaeologyUI.lua is blank but "changed"...
13:43.00Stanzillaok that is blank :p
13:44.07StanzillaSinusPi: that one also has "status: same" for me bw
13:44.08Stanzillat
13:44.18Stanzillaonly the xml changed
13:44.26SinusPiokay, I reloaded and now there's less 'changed'.
13:44.37SinusPiperhaps I had an old list.
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13:51.19Krapshttp://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/mathematically_annoying.png
13:57.10Krapshttp://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2011/03/kids2.jpg
14:02.45SinusPiFunny, there's a /read emote now, but the animation is kinda funky. Looks especially well when sitting down.
14:04.13SinusPi<PROTECTED>
14:07.31FiskerStanzilla
14:08.16Kraps"They missed a joke though, the kid should have found an original gameboy to be so clunky and heavy that he falls off the couch."
14:12.25StanzillaFisker
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14:18.23Fiskerwtf Stanzilla
14:18.33Fiskerthere's a hero in darkspore that looks like the tiny walker thingies from star wars
14:18.44Stanzillascreenshot!
14:18.59Fiskerno!
14:19.05SinusPiyou're a darkspore.
14:19.25Fiskeri darkspored your mom
14:20.49FiskerStanzilla
14:20.50Fiskerhttp://i.imgur.com/dkncv.png
14:21.12Stanzillalol nice
14:22.51SinusPinot even looks same.
14:23.17SinusPinot AT-AT - not walker.
14:26.16AckisI'm giving up sex with Fisker for lent
14:27.24Fiskerit looks similar SinusPi
14:27.41Ackisit looks like an AT-ST not AT-AT
14:27.45SinusPis/lent/lint/
14:27.49Ackisactually more like an AT-PT
14:28.22SinusPibut those are blocky and the screenshot has a roundish model...
14:29.22Ackisan AT-PT is roundish, more so than an AT-ST I thought?
14:32.08SinusPihttp://guides.wikinut.com/img/1mg6ox_un76uotr2/An-AT-PT-Walker roundish..??
14:32.25Ackismore so than an AT-ST :P
14:32.42FiskerDURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR SinusPi
14:32.54Fiskeri said it looks like it not "Quick call the copyright police"
14:33.21SinusPiwell, but then all walkers start to look "like it".
14:33.30Ackisshut up Fisker, SinusPi and I are nerd talking
14:33.34Ackisan AT-AT doesn't
14:33.35Fiskerno
14:33.37SinusPibox, two legs, mounted guns. "oh look walker!"
14:33.58Ackisthe AT-AA also doesn't
14:34.06Fiskerbox, two legs, mounted guns, posture, small exoskeleton, bigger command structure
14:34.12Fiskeroh my SinusPi
14:35.44Fiskeri guess that's like saying a square box is nothing like a square box with rounded boxes
14:35.49Fiskererr
14:35.51Fiskerrounded corners
14:36.03FiskerThey're so different!
14:36.17Fiskerone is the blue, the other is red
14:45.05SinusPione is full, one is empty
14:45.14SinusPithat's "Erevan Radio" for you.
14:46.03SinusPi"Ivan won a car at the city square today" except that not at city square but in an alley, not today but last night, not Ivan but Misha, not a car but a bike, and not won but got mugged.
14:46.36SinusPi"But it's all true."
14:49.52Ackisis http://apps.facebook.com/wow-armory/ blizzards?
14:51.38Fiskerlets just say that it is Ackis
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14:56.06AckisFisker: heroic atramedes: do the adds spawn in p2?
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15:06.31airtonixFisker: Bishops move diagonally. That's why they often turn up where the kings don't expect them to be.
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15:11.05karl_w_wdoes mass dispel put u out of shadowform?
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15:14.34airtonixWhat is so surprising about bacon?
15:14.34airtonix'I don't know. I suppose it comes as something of a shock to the pig.'
15:14.59Ackiskarl_w_w: no
15:14.59airtonixkarl_w_w: you*
15:20.01mckenziemcairtonix: me*
15:20.52karl_w_w[20:47:21] <airtonix> are u
15:21.31airtonixumadbro
15:23.26mckenziemcme*
15:24.04airtonixFisker: http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.jt.androidseven.pro
15:24.09airtonixi lawl'd
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15:42.50Fiskeri'm the best person in the world airtonix
15:42.58Fiskerand no Ackis they don't
15:43.07Ackist
15:43.29airtonixk
15:43.30Fiskerthey can be up in phase 2 though
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15:43.40Fiskerand he has a habbit of throwing out an imp 5 seconds or so before phase 2
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15:45.46Fisker1920x1088p
15:45.47Fiskerwow
15:45.56Fiskerthat's 2088960p
15:46.31Kalrotho m g
15:46.45Fiskerthat's like 3713700x2088960
15:46.53Fiskerthat's a fuckton of pixel
15:46.54Fiskers
15:46.57Fiskerpixels*
15:48.05FiskerKalroth
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15:52.15Lunessastation
15:52.37airtonixmaster
15:52.45airtonixcracks the whip
15:53.33Fiskerairtonix lua_bot
15:59.29Fiskeroh sweet
15:59.39Fiskerfox news is telling me to put someone elses dna in my mouth
16:01.17Ackis"For instance, if you get banned from Steam for one of their odd reasons (like Paypal screwing up) then you lose all your games, forever. Potentially thousands of pounds worth, taken from you, and there’s little you can do." <-- Fisker truth?
16:01.45Kraps|wsounds gay Fisker
16:02.28Fiskeri know Kraps|w
16:04.00FiskerAckis if it is, i believe it's only temporary :P
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16:04.11Fiskeri.e. it's locked until you pay
16:04.26Fiskerthough i seem to recall that they would just remove your game instead
16:05.00airtonixsounds awesome
16:05.10airtonixwhere do i go for the qq forum on that topic?
16:07.57Ackisapparently torchlight came out on xbox live
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16:11.46Kraps|wcare Ackis?
16:13.00AckisI'm glad you care Kraps|w
16:13.15Kraps|whey Ackis
16:13.19Kraps|wi dont
16:13.48Ackisyes you do
16:14.43Kraps|wi dont have an xbox
16:16.49Kraps|wi belong to the master pc race
16:18.50mckenziemclua> string.rep('Fis'..'ker', 10)
16:18.50lua_botmckenziemc: FiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFisker
16:19.45Fiskeri agree Kraps
16:20.38Fiskerdo you want to do something about it Kraps ?
16:21.03Kraps|wFisker: i'll jusy have pizza
16:21.09Kraps|wjust*
16:22.05Fiskeri'm just thinking we could go into politics
16:22.55Kraps|wFisker: European or American?
16:23.41Fiskeramerican if possible
16:23.56Fiskeri have a feeling that our politics would lead into some kind of war concerning most of the world
16:24.55Kraps|wit has twice in the previous century, good point
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16:25.28Fiskerjust remember
16:25.30Fiskerif we lose
16:25.37Fiskerinstead of being pussies shooting ourselves in a bunker
16:25.47Fiskerwe'll engulf the world in flames
16:25.49Fiskergood idea, no?
16:26.35Kraps|wabsolutely
16:27.23Fiskerbtw Stanzilla
16:27.23Kraps|wwith american politics we can start a second civil war
16:27.39Fiskerjersks are saying that the optimus 2x have an unlocked bootloader
16:27.49Fiskerjust gonna confirm that when i get mine
16:27.54Stanzillasounds good
16:28.21Fiskeri have a nagging feeling they don't know the difference between signed/encrypted bootloaders and locked/unlocked though
16:29.37Ackishttp://www.warcraftmounts.com/collection.php?id=34361 / http://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=ackis#col 131 mounts/161 pets :D
16:30.44Fisker:O
16:30.48Fiskera contest of being the most human human
16:31.04Fiskeri'd just write "I have a huge raging boner"
16:31.20Kraps|wwhy?
16:31.33Fiskerso i win
16:32.06Fiskerthe objective is to find out who is a human chatting and not a computer chatting
16:32.19Kraps|wwhy write that?
16:32.28Fiskerthen i'm human :(
16:33.53Kraps|wremember that story about the scientist who was fooled by a computer in such a test? i call BS
16:34.13Fiskeridk?
16:34.37Kraps|wit was recent
16:35.05Fiskerprobably was
16:35.14Fiskersince i just watched the daily show with the same topic
16:35.15Fisker:o
16:36.08Kraps|wyesterdays?
16:36.45Fiskeryeah
16:36.49Fiskeri'm in denmark
16:37.34Kraps|wso?
16:38.16Fiskeri had sex with your mother first
16:38.33Kraps|wi doubt it
16:38.49Kraps|wshes never been to denmark
16:39.11hasteFisker: when did you start writing for NCIS?
16:39.26haste(context: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRhGPVYRsOY)
16:40.37Kraps|whaste: that episode made me uncomfortable and sad
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16:41.34Fiskerhey haste
16:41.35Fiskerand old
16:42.10TorhalKraps|w: There was so much wrong with that episode. Like, when Gibbs killed the last machine by shooting the fucking monitor.
16:42.18Torhaltwitches.
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16:43.06Kraps|wTorhal: i thought we were WAY past that cliche, but apparently not
16:43.40FiskerKraps|w
16:43.58Fiskerhow so Kraps|w ?
16:44.07Fiskeryou don't think it's possible?
16:44.18Kraps|wyou tell me Fisker
16:44.36zenzelezzthat one is just horrible
16:44.50Fiskeryou were the one making a statement Kraps|w
16:45.27foxlithttp://www.go-hero.net/box/ow.png :(
16:45.56Fiskeroh fuck that foxlit
16:46.10Fiskeri gave up on spacechem
16:46.12Kraps|wthere are 100 people working an a tv show and not a single person knows that a computer is not contained in the monitor?
16:46.15Fiskerit blows my brain up
16:46.37Fiskerit could be Kraps|w
16:46.42Torhal"But my iMac is like that!"
16:46.44Fiskerbesides who says that relevant?
16:48.11Fiskeroh yeah Stanzilla
16:48.13Fiskeri forgot
16:48.24Fiskerthe trackball on my nexus one is pretty worn down as well
16:48.45Kraps|wexplain Fisker
16:49.07ckknightKraps|w: it is for their iMacs at home.
16:49.19Jamashargh, my key for the letter between "c" an' "e" is not working
16:49.41Fiskerowned Jamash
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16:50.00Fiskerexplain what Kraps|w ?
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16:50.26Kraps|w[11:41]<Fisker>besides who says that relevant?
16:50.26mckenziemcddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
16:50.30Jamashthanks
16:50.45JamashI'll try not to use them all up in one place
16:51.16mckenziemchehe
16:51.28JamashI'm glad windows 7 has an on-screen keyboard for login or I'd have been in trouble
16:51.47Jamashright now I'm using paste :(
16:51.48mckenziemclua> ('Fis'..'ker '):rep(10)
16:51.48lua_botmckenziemc: Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker
16:51.55Fiskerwell what if shooting the monitor caused the electrons discharg in a way that the ionization kills the motherboard on the machine?
16:52.06Fiskerto discharge*
16:52.09Jamashwhat if pigs had wings?
16:52.21Fiskerin 2 months they will
16:52.28mckenziemclua_bot: ping
16:52.28mckenziemc: /
16:52.28lua_botmckenziemc: nil
16:52.58nevcairielhow do you call the third state of a checkbox?
16:53.06Jamashlua_bot: "ping":gsub("i", "o")
16:53.06lua_botJamash: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '"ping"'
16:53.17Jamashlua_bot: ("ping"):gsub("i", "o")
16:53.18lua_botJamash: pong, 1
16:53.23Jamashclose
16:53.23Fiskernevcairiel
16:53.35nevcairielno Fisker, thats not it
16:53.43Jamashlua_bot: (("ping"):gsub("i", "o"))
16:53.43lua_botJamash: pong
16:53.50Jamashbam
16:54.01Kraps|wnevcairiel: how does a checkbox have 3 states
16:54.08Jamashon, off, disabled
16:54.11Fiskerhow doesn't it Kraps|w ?
16:54.23JamashOR in some cases, intermediate
16:54.32nebula169well, tristate's third looks like disabled, but its true, false and nil
16:54.35Torhalnevcairiel: WoW checkbox?
16:54.38alestaneOften there's "on", "off" or "some child items are checked, but not all."
16:54.40nevcairielin windows there is a blueish blob in the checkbox in that case
16:54.43TorhalOh
16:54.49Kraps|wah
16:54.55Jamashoooh
16:55.00nebula169aaah
16:55.04Jamashunhhhh
16:55.13mckenziemcKraps|w only has two states: posting links and not posting links
16:55.18JamashMY D KEY IS WORKING
16:55.36nevcairielindeterminate is apparently the term MS uses for that
16:55.45Fiskeris your d key working Jamash ?
16:55.51Kraps|wmckenziemc: i wouldnt post half of links, thats just stupid
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16:56.34JamashMEIN FÜHRER, I CAN WALK! :D :D :D
16:56.54Kraps|wholy nazis, batman!
16:57.11Jamash<cue nuclear obliteration feat. Vera Lynn>
16:59.12Kraps|wkills Jamash
16:59.14Jamashyou wouldn't nuke Moscow Fisker
16:59.49Jamashactivates his backup clone
17:00.37Jamashhttp://youtu.be/wxrWz9XVvls
17:00.47Ackishttp://warcraftpets.com/wow.pets/stats.asp?ob=ultra
17:01.10Jamashhmm, my rarest pet is Murky
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17:02.53AckisI don't have a murky :(
17:02.57Jamashlooks like Crawling Claw is the rarest pet that can actually be obtained in-game without a loot code
17:03.58Ackisrarest I have is the essence of competition followed by mini tyreal
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17:04.06Ackisyes I spelled him wrong :P
17:04.17JamashI want a mini Tyrael :<
17:04.31Ackisthe site statistics are skewed because a) non-verified and b) only registered users
17:08.14Kraps|wTorhal: also when mcgee was all "it is a computer game!", i was expecting some irl dungeon-crawling, but no
17:08.21TorhalHaha
17:08.23TorhalYah
17:08.26TorhalThat was painful to watch
17:12.13LunessaJamash: Dr. Strangelove reference earns you +50 Lunessa rep.
17:13.43Jamashsweet, what's my standing?
17:14.15Ackis~karma Jamash
17:14.15purljamash has karma of 3
17:14.29Kraps|w-950
17:14.40FiskerAckis
17:14.41JamashAckis: that's my purl faction standing, I'm asking about my Lunessa faction standing
17:14.59LunessaYou're still in neutral.
17:15.04Jamashhmm
17:15.11LunessaBut working towards friendly.
17:15.19Fiskeri singlehandedly killed the skank horde
17:15.32Jamashturns in 10 Fisker heads to Lunessa
17:15.47LunessaLEVEL UP!
17:15.52Jamash!
17:16.09FiskerNO
17:16.13FiskerI'm MaxDestructo
17:16.30Jamashputs a talent point in Improved Lua
17:16.45FiskerLUA*
17:17.27LunessaImproved Lua reduces the number of n00b mistakes by 33% per point, 3 point talent.
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17:17.39Jamashawesome
17:18.15Kraps|wLunessa: i though boring talents were removed
17:18.22Kraps|wwhistles
17:20.39LunessaKraps|w: These trees haven't been overhauled yet.
17:20.52Kraps|wah
17:20.56mikmahttp://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/newtab.jpg
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17:22.13Kraps|walways look on the bright side of life
17:23.36Fiskeri'm winning Kraps|w
17:27.19Kraps|wtigerblood?
17:27.59Fiskeryes
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17:30.24Fiskersmime.p7s
17:30.24Fisker2K   Download
17:30.26Fiskerblasphemy
17:30.28Fiskermadness
17:30.31Fiskeryou insult my queen
17:31.12Kraps|wlulz
17:32.05Fiskerthat attachment is an insult to everyone
17:32.43Kraps|wthe hell is it
17:33.00Fiskerit is
17:33.20Fiskerwell i could accept it's an insult to everyone with "NemID"
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17:43.44Jamashis there an easy way to assign a variable argument list to an existing table, without creating a junk table?  Right now I'm iterating over ... and using select
17:44.52Fiskeruhm Jamash
17:45.02Jamashyes snookums
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17:46.48foxlitYou know what happens to people who think about junk tables?
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17:46.54JamashIDK
17:46.57foxlitThey go mad. And then spit out things like
17:47.25foxlitfunction populate(t, i, a, ...) if a == nil then return; end t[i] = a; return populate(t, i+1, ...); end
17:47.49Jamashnormally I wouldn't bother but this is a function that's getting called a *lot*
17:47.55nevcairielat least its a tail call
17:48.08JamashIs a tail call like a booty call?
17:48.29nevcairielsure, just with the tail
17:51.26Jamashit's part of my debug logging routine so it gets called every time any other function in my addon gets called while debugging is enabled
17:51.43Jamashof course, since I'm the only user who runs with debugging enabled, I guess it doesn't matter
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18:01.13Kraps|wow my head http://www.projectrho.com/rocket/fasterlight.php#Causality
18:01.28Jamashoh ffs
18:03.06alestaneYou can include a vararg list in a new table.
18:03.24alestaneThere's no clean way to insert it into an exsting table.
18:03.34Jamashmmk
18:08.08JamashThe Eschaton universe by Charles Stross presents an interesting way of dealing with FTL+Relativity, in which time travel is possible but is regulated by a semi-godlike being or group of beings that resulted from the Singularity
18:11.35Ackismy farts travel faster than the speed of light
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18:16.22Jamashso you can fart before someone pulls your finger?
18:17.37Ackisany medical types here on IRC?
18:17.50Ackisis "pelvic girdle was fractured, bi-lateral femur fractures, splenic lac, a punctured lung" fatal?
18:19.12FiskerAckis
18:20.33Jamash(not a medical professional but I watch a lot of House M.D.) depends on whether you get to a hospital before you bleed to death / lungs fill with blood and you drown
18:21.43KarlKFI|workonly fatal if you dont get quick enough medical attention
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18:22.00KarlKFI|workalso watches a lot of House
18:22.02LunessaAckis: Your farts travel in time.
18:22.04AxcyHello, if I have created a new panel and want some text on this - How can it be achieved?
18:22.11AxcyBasically I want my panel to be a button that users can click and then something happens - I've created the panel, but need some overlay text on it
18:22.25JamashAxcy: What precisely do you mean by "panel"?
18:22.34PneumatusAckis: all of those could be fatal
18:22.49Pneumatussounds like a car accident
18:23.25AxcyJamash: Want a pretty button I can click inside wow which does XX functionality :)
18:23.54AxcyI've got the functionality working, and it works fine when you press the Frame I've made.. I just need this frame to have some text written on it
18:23.56AckisPneumatus: crushed by a wall
18:24.40JamashAxcy: Are you using a button template or coding from scratch?
18:25.19PneumatusAckis: broken femurs and pelvis are the worst possible breaks due to the blood vessels around/in them
18:25.21AxcyI'm using Tukui - But let's assume it's from scrath?
18:25.27JamashIf you're using a template, it should be as simple as button:SetText("some text")
18:26.14AxcyJamash: http://pastebin.com/NZ2fMkNs <- That's my code if it makes it easier
18:26.17AckisPneumatus: I knew femur breaks were bad and potentially fatal, I don't even know what a spelnic lac is
18:26.25AxcyThe SetText doesn't seem to work unfortunately :(
18:26.58PneumatusAckis: it means laceration of the spleen
18:27.10Pneumatuslike a cut, but on the spleen its more of a bruise
18:27.12Ackisah
18:29.04Jamashwhere is this CreatePanel method coming from?  I'm not familiar with it
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18:30.05PneumatusAckis: the biggest factor is usually the time it took to rescue - under an hour for rescue makes recovery a lot better
18:32.03Ackishe's in ICU now, not sure of how long it took
18:33.37AxcyJamash: It's a internal one in Tukui I'd assume
18:33.46AxcyTakes care of creating a panel
18:33.51Axcyor frame
18:33.54JamashAxcy: ok, looking at the TukUI docs right now
18:34.08ccoxAckis: pins likely, may require a plate for the femur - at a minimum facing a lot of physical therapy and recovery time
18:35.01ccoxdamage to the spleen could make dealing with other bleeding and damage more difficult
18:35.55JamashAxcy: looks like you might want frame:FontString(name, fontName, fontHeight, fontStyle)
18:36.50JamashAxcy: I'm looking at https://github.com/tukz/Tukui/raw/master/Tukui/docs/API.txt
18:37.15LunessaDamage to the spleen is pretty bad.  It hampers other recovery too.
18:38.52AxcyJamash: Ah cheers, will take a look
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18:42.33mikmalol nurmijärvi
18:42.45mikmajnwhiteh: lql!
18:42.51jnwhiteh?
18:43.01mikmajnwhiteh: it's not lol for you, it's lql
18:43.16jnwhitehyes, of course, that makes sense O.o
18:44.43Kraps|wmister rogers is winning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q
18:47.53mikmajnwhiteh: http://imgur.com/gallery/uGi3n
18:48.14jnwhitehalright
18:49.05nebula169someone who speaks german: "Ein Problem habe ich hinbekommen" does the hin mean he figured it out? I've always been terrible with prefixes
18:51.30mikmanevcairiel: scheisse panzarwagen
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18:53.19mojosdojo|nebula169: yes
18:53.29nebula169danke
18:53.34mojosdojo|gerne
18:55.02Fiskerhey jnwhiteh
18:55.04Fiskeri'm winning
18:55.14jnwhitehk k
18:55.50Ackiswtf bioware wants me to start my guild already!
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18:59.50Fiskerhey Ackis
18:59.58Fiskerguild for what btw?
19:00.16Ackisknights of the old republic
19:00.17Fiskerhttp://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/981374-microsoft%E2%80%99s-xbox-360-site-huge-exploit-costing-millions/ <-bam
19:00.31Pneumatusmore like http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/epic-win-photos-tldr-rps-win.jpg
19:02.48Fiskerhey Parnic
19:03.37Fiskerbtw Ackis
19:03.37Ackishey Fisker are you going to Pax East?
19:03.47Fiskerwho still players kotor? lold
19:03.54Fiskerhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1840264645?page=1#2 <-hoho
19:03.59Fiskerno Ackis
19:04.08Ackiswait
19:04.10Ackisnot kotor
19:04.12Ackisit's the mmo one
19:04.25Fiskerthat's not kotor
19:04.33Ackisold republic
19:04.49Fiskersw:or?
19:04.58alestanewill be at PAX East.
19:05.02Fiskerdon't know that game Ackis
19:05.07Fiskeralestane
19:05.14Fiskerif you find gabe
19:05.17Fiskertell him he's my hero
19:06.06Fisker(And no not penny arcade gabe)
19:06.18Fiskerpenny arcade sucks
19:06.22Ackishey alestane get me a Pax East Gears of War 3 avatar item! :D
19:06.24Ackisplease
19:06.26Ackis:(
19:06.42FiskerAckis just redeem a million ms points and buy everything
19:06.55Ackismuhaha
19:08.26alestaneWhat, from one of the expo booths?
19:09.46Ackisalestane: yeah apparently the gears of war booth
19:09.54alestaneI'll keep an eye out.
19:10.05Ackiswould be much appreciated :D
19:10.05alestaneI won't hit the expo floor much until Saturday.
19:10.22alestaneThat's Epic, right?
19:10.41Ackisyeah
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19:14.11sylvanaar_workman liquidXML looks so sexy
19:14.21sylvanaar_workhttp://www.liquid-technologies.com/xml-studio.aspx
19:16.04sylvanaar_worki cant tell if i like it more than XMLSpy though
19:16.17sylvanaar_workXMLSpy is kinda dated (well so is XML)
19:16.48karl_w_w!api GetItemInfo
19:16.49lua_botGetItemInfo: Returns information about an item, by name, link or id (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemInfo)
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19:23.11Fiskerslaps sylvanaar_work around a bit with a large trout
19:23.52sylvanaar_workipads Fisker
19:27.17Fiskeryes
19:29.41Fiskeri don't think i can be stopped Ackis
19:29.49Fiskerwhat to do?
19:30.18zenzelezzthat's just cruel
19:31.08sylvanaar_workhttp://damnyouautocorrect.com/images/dump-tits.jpg
19:31.51jnwhitehgenetics blow my mind man
19:31.55jnwhitehI just don't get it
19:31.58jnwhitehbut its facinating!
19:32.24sylvanaar_workthats basically what i got my degree in
19:32.30Fiskerhey jnwhiteh
19:32.32jnwhiteh=)
19:33.45zenzelezzI prefer my degrees in Celsius
19:34.26jnwhitehforgive the title of the article: http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110309/full/news.2011.148.html
19:34.35jnwhitehpretty interesting way to approach things
19:34.38sylvanaar_worki hated school i started as CS then switched to molecular biology - then became a programmer
19:35.35Fiskeri'm bored sylvanaar
19:35.39sylvanaar_workah its epigenentic
19:36.22karl_w_wcan you detect the player's class proficiencies?
19:36.45sylvanaar_workFisker: thats because you dont have any iDevices
19:37.21jnwhitehI wish my laptop was an iMacBook
19:37.22Fiskerno sylvanaar_work
19:37.25jnwhitehI feel left out
19:37.35sylvanaar_worktoday they all got upgraded to os 4.3
19:37.38Fiskeryou only got a regular MacBook?
19:37.51FiskerI would never want an iMaciBook iPro
19:38.24Fiskerface sylvanaar
19:39.37sylvanaar_worki dont even have a laptop anymore
19:40.03sylvanaar_workjust pc's and phone/pad
19:40.16Fiskerbah
19:40.29Fiskeri was just about to trollface on how you would activate your iDevices then
19:40.33jnwhitehi wish i had a desktop
19:40.36Fiskera
19:40.37jnwhiteh=/
19:40.49Fiskerwhy don't you get one jnwhiteh ?
19:41.01jnwhitehno place to put it
19:41.24Fiskerwell if you gave me a lot of money i could buy one for you
19:41.31Fiskerand anytime you're in denmark you could visit me to use it
19:41.41sylvanaar_workat least get a proper keyboard/mouse for your laptop jnwhiteh
19:41.46sylvanaar_workthat helps
19:41.54jnwhitehi have a mouse
19:42.00jnwhitehand a keyboard, but I cant set the keyboard up anywhere
19:42.03jnwhitehbut do have one
19:42.06Fiskerlulz
19:42.39AxcyIs there a way to check if a panel is hidden? - A counterpart to IsShown() ?
19:42.42sylvanaar_worktoo bad you cant fold the laptop so that the keyboard part acts as a stand
19:42.43nevcairielI couldn't live with a proper table to work at
19:42.53jnwhitehAxcy: what does 'hidden' mean?
19:43.06jnwhitehnevcairiel: i miss my desk
19:43.07jnwhitehso much
19:43.08nevcairielAxcy: how about "not IsShown()"
19:43.20AxcyYeah.. that kind of hit me as I wrote it ^^
19:43.25sylvanaar_worki mean 270 degrees fold
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19:50.02nebula169Cairenn: <3
19:50.12Cairennnebula169: you're welcome :)
19:56.07alestaneThere is also :IsVisible()
19:59.54karl_w_wsomething to keep in mind: if a parent is hidden, all children will be false for IsVisible but true for IsShown
20:00.02Ackishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joM_qLNvXfk
20:00.06AckisCairenn: ^
20:00.25CairennAckis: O.O
20:00.42AckisPom Congo Line!
20:00.57Cairennthat's quite something
20:02.20CairennI'm not sure what that something is, but it's definitely quite something ;)
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20:05.21mckenziemc~echo lua> 'scramble'..(('Fisker'):rep(20))
20:05.21purllua> 'scramble'..(('Fisker'):rep(20))
20:05.22lua_botpurl: scrambleFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFiskerFisker
20:05.33mckenziemcfail : /
20:05.45mckenziemc~echo lua> 'scramble'..((' Fisker'):rep(20))
20:05.45purllua> 'scramble'..((' Fisker'):rep(20))
20:05.46lua_botpurl: scramble Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker Fisker
20:08.55AckisTorhal, Torhal|work: do you have anything to say? Hmmm?
20:10.19alestaneI remember some friends of mine talking about trying to maintain their train of thought in their meeting (the whole group is notoriously disorganized), so finally I said something about "Your train of thought is a congo line of kittens!"
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20:10.42alestaneA moment later one of them was going, "Mew-mew mew-mew, mew...mew!"
20:11.24Cairennlol
20:12.55Ackishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QPHHd6jmMo
20:12.57Ackisholy shit
20:13.22BlackNethttp://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/wow/WoWScrnShot_030811_193554.jpg.html?g2_imageViewsIndex=1
20:13.31BlackNetmoved some stuff around after this shot
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20:14.20Lunessastation
20:14.24BlackNetmoved buff's to left and debuff's to right. the timers to the left on top of the grid
20:14.29Cairennwagon
20:14.52Ackiswow
20:15.18nebula169does tukui use oUF for the boss frames? or is that suf?
20:15.23BlackNetoUF
20:15.23nebula169@BlackNet
20:15.26Fiskerputs Cairenn in a box
20:15.33nebula169hmm, i needs me some of those
20:15.34CairennAckis: oh, that's the one the other night when he was knocked out cold for a few minutes?
20:15.38BlackNeti am so loving this to.
20:15.46Lunessafixes Cairenn's little red wagon.
20:16.00AckisCairenn: yeah
20:16.05BlackNetfew things i wish was better but i could drop code in for those i suppose
20:16.14BlackNetcept i swore i would never do that for wow :)
20:16.15karl_w_wdoes tostringall still work?
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20:16.45BlackNethttp://wetlands.simplyaquatics.com/v/wow/WoWScrnShot_030811_094248.jpg.html is is with the side bar expanded and the marking bar open
20:17.43foxlitew, marking bars
20:17.56BlackNetmissing role check and ready check
20:18.09BlackNetfoxlit dont like my marking bars?
20:18.11LunessaAtsa lotsa buttons
20:18.28LunessaAre you a ... ... filthy clicker?
20:18.40foxlitalso, two sets of raid frames.
20:18.42foxlitand failpower.
20:18.59BlackNetwait, what? 2 sets of raid frames?
20:19.46alestaneThe Boston-Montreal game was last night, wasn't it?
20:20.17foxlitOr perhaps that's raid and party, which is oddly redundant
20:20.29foxlitStuff above the chat frame and stuff to the right of the target frame
20:20.30BlackNetfoxlit you refering to tauntmaster?
20:20.44BlackNetabove the chat frame is the real raid frame :)
20:21.18BlackNetthe one on the right is taunt master. shows me threat on each person and lets me do hands, taunts and custom stuff on each person and shows what aggro they have
20:21.21Fiskerhey foxlit
20:21.45AckisBlackNet: less raid frames, more ackis recipe list :P
20:21.53Fiskerhey Cairenn
20:22.00Cairennhi Fisker
20:22.00foxlitso, essentially, it's a separate set of raid frames displaying something.
20:22.15BlackNetwhat would be sweet is if i could use the blizz raid util on the side
20:23.10Fiskerhighfives himself
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20:25.03alestaneCareful, Fisker, you'll go blind.
20:27.30karl_w_wlua> "LeatherMailRelicBowsCrossbowsDaggersGunsFist WeaponsOne-Handed AxesOne-Handed MacesOne-Handed SwordsPolearmsStavesThrownTwo-Handed AxesTwo-Handed MacesTwo-Handed SwordsWands"
20:27.31lua_botkarl_w_w: LeatherMailRelicBowsCrossbowsDaggersGunsFist WeaponsOne-Handed AxesOne-Handed MacesOne-Handed SwordsPolearmsStavesThrownTwo-Handed AxesTwo-Handed MacesTwo-Handed SwordsWands
20:27.43karl_w_woh
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20:27.55karl_w_wstupid carriage return confuses my irc client
20:27.56Fisker:( alestane
20:28.20karl_w_wlua> "LeatherMailRelicBowsCrossbowsDaggersGunsFist WeaponsOne-Handed AxesOne-Handed MacesOne-Handed SwordsPolearmsStavesThrownTwo-Handed AxesTwo-Handed MacesTwo-Handed SwordsWands" == "LeatherMailRelicBowsCrossbowsDaggersGunsFist WeaponsOne-Handed AxesOne-Handed MacesOne-Handed SwordsPolearmsStavesThrownTwo-Handed AxesTwo-Handed MacesTwo-Handed SwordsWands"
20:28.20lua_botkarl_w_w: true
20:30.59BlackNetLunessa no im not a clicker
20:31.25LunessaI'm just surprised that you have so many buttons showing.
20:32.08BlackNetrefering to the action bars?
20:33.07alestaneI've been known to leave spells on bars so I can watch cooldowns, Lunessa .
20:33.11mckenziemci have lots of buttons showing in my ui but that's because i'm always changing characters so i need to know where everything is : /
20:33.16mckenziemcplus cooldown watching
20:33.45BlackNetthe 3 bottom ones is for in combat and left is out of combat
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20:38.54Lunessaalestane: I only leave one row of action bar buttons - and pet/totem/aspect bars.
20:39.17Pneumatusone day i will be brave enough to hide all my actionbars
20:39.18LunessaBut yeah, I was just amazed at the sheer number of buttons on the screen is all.
20:40.32Pneumatusi think i could get away with about 4 buttons just to watch cooldowns
20:41.11BlackNet4 buttons?
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20:41.24BlackNetyou play a mage or something?
20:41.33Pneumatuspain suppression, power infusion, penance and shadowfiend
20:41.35Pneumatuswould do the job
20:41.52Pneumatusand maybe divine hymn/hymn of hope
20:42.17BlackNeti actually use most of the stuff on the bottom 3 action bars
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20:46.10karl_w_wi dont understand how people do that
20:46.29karl_w_wsurely you cant have every single spell, ability, and item bound to a key
20:46.38karl_w_wso how can u hide all your bars
20:47.44Stanzillayou can :p
20:47.49Pneumatusi have every spell i use bound
20:49.07foxlitMore OPie, tbh
20:49.11karl_w_wreally
20:49.31karl_w_wso you have a keybind to use a flask?
20:49.38Stanzillab
20:49.41Stanzilla*click*
20:49.43Pneumatuslunarsphere
20:49.59CideI have every spell bound
20:50.11karl_w_wi cant believe you do :P
20:50.21CideI'm a holy priest
20:50.26Cideask for any spell
20:50.37Pneumatustroll grip
20:50.46mckenziemcmind vision
20:50.47Cideleap of faith? shift+g
20:50.49Pneumatusctrl-shift-alt-rightclick
20:50.50Cidealt+1
20:50.58karl_w_wholy fire
20:51.00Pneumatus4
20:51.02Cideshift 6
20:51.13Pneumatusholy noba
20:51.14Pneumatus*nova
20:51.16Pneumatus2 :)
20:51.17Cide7
20:51.18karl_w_wand im not particularly talking about spells
20:51.31Cidespells are the only thing you need bound
20:51.33mckenziemcwand
20:51.34karl_w_weveryone has every spell that they use bound
20:51.38Cideand health stones
20:51.44Pneumatusnever use wand
20:51.55karl_w_wim talking about other things that would be on bars
20:51.59karl_w_wthat wouldnt be bound
20:52.01mckenziemcbreaking stuff without using mana?
20:52.09Pneumatussmite
20:52.58karl_w_wwhile locked out
20:53.11Pneumatuswhy would i be locked out?
20:53.31Pneumatusand if i was, why would i want to wand something
20:53.42mckenziemcyou never know :)
20:54.02karl_w_wmaybe sum1 is trying to mount
20:54.08karl_w_wafter interrupting u
20:54.17Pneumatustrash and bosses don't mount
20:54.17karl_w_wvery possible situation
20:54.29mckenziemcdp would work there i think
20:54.47mckenziemcassuming just a lockout not a silence
20:54.48karl_w_wtrash and bosses need very few spells bound :P
20:55.02foxlitHm, 5$ for XCode
20:55.20foxlitOn one side, that's nowhere near VS prices. On the other hand, it used to be free. Meh.
20:55.38karl_w_won the third hand, $5*
20:56.50mckenziemcalien!
20:57.00foxlitkarl_w_w: mutant.
20:57.54mckenziemccide: interact with target
20:57.58karl_w_whttp://www.wowhead.com/item=65357 best item ever?
20:58.07Pneumatusright click
20:58.08Cidenot a spell
20:58.11Cide^
20:58.19karl_w_wcide: focusing lens
20:58.31mckenziemcstill useful
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20:58.44mckenziemci have it bound and have used the binding >.>
20:59.03Pneumatusi have interact on mouseover on G18 also
20:59.12Cidewhat the fuck is focusing lens
20:59.24mckenziemclol
20:59.48karl_w_wfocusing lens is what u use to find your target
21:00.02Pneumatusnah, thats raid mark / mind vision
21:00.04karl_w_wits one of the most useful things in the game
21:00.07mckenziemcStaff of Archmage Vargoth!
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21:00.22mckenziemcooh ooh hearthstone
21:00.23foxlitMeep, looks like I need to hack at my unit frame buff display again :(
21:00.25mckenziemcthat casts a spell
21:00.26Cideyou mean raid markers?
21:00.30Cidealt+r
21:00.34Cide(thank you foxlit)
21:00.38PneumatusG16
21:00.47karl_w_wraid marks dont point you in the direction
21:00.53CideI have a brain for a reason
21:00.55Pneumatusactually, i dont have a hearthstone
21:01.03mckenziemcmage?
21:01.06Pneumatusinnkeeper's daughter is G16
21:01.39foxlitI don't have a binding for a hearthstone
21:01.43mckenziemci used to have water and food bound : |
21:01.55foxlitIt's the first item in the first bag, takes like O(1) time to find and use
21:02.07mckenziemctwo clicks though
21:02.32karl_w_wi have conjur and use food and gem and put down a table all on 1 button :P
21:02.37mckenziemcwell assuming you don't use the bag bind
21:02.38foxlitone click, but anyway
21:04.06mckenziemcCide: now try making one of each other class and memorizing their binds ;)
21:04.30karl_w_wCide: snowball :P
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21:12.22LunessaI hate it when friends let their messenger accounts get hijacked.
21:14.04karl_w_wand email
21:14.20karl_w_wand it's always the same people as well
21:17.50sylvanaar_workanyone get torchlight?
21:19.03karl_w_wonly if the batteries aren't flat
21:19.14sylvanaar_workim a sucker for game trailers
21:20.00sylvanaar_workits on xbox live today i think
21:22.43Torhalsylvanaar_work: I have it on Steam.
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21:24.20durcyndeath to consoles.
21:26.02sylvanaar_workTorhal: is it any good?
21:26.47TorhalIt's decent. Very Diablo-ish (even has music from the guy who did the Diablo music) but with a very cartoon feel to it.
21:26.55ckknightWTB multiplayer for it
21:27.05Torhalckknight: They're making an MMO apparently.
21:27.08ckknightor, alternatively, diablo 3
21:27.08durcynthey released it as a proof of concept for an MMO, ckknight
21:27.17ckknightdurcyn: I know.
21:27.34sylvanaar_workso i dunno if i should get it on steam or xbox
21:27.37durcynanyway, it's okay sylvanaar_work, but the scaling at high levels was wonky last time i played it
21:28.03Torhalsylvanaar_work: There are mods for the Steam version if that's your thing.
21:28.09TorhalNew textures/classes/levels
21:28.26sylvanaar_worknah, i dont have enough time to actually play games, just buy them
21:29.22karl_w_wlol
21:30.13sylvanaar_workthey are like fetish items
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21:34.35ckknightwhat's the problem, sylvanaar_work?
21:34.38ckknightdon't use your fetish items?
21:35.26sylvanaar_worki collect them
21:35.34sylvanaar_workso i can say i have them
21:35.43sylvanaar_workdont want to feel left out
21:36.21sylvanaar_workxcode 4, nice - maybe ill do some iphone development
21:37.03sylvanaar_worki need a little break from my current project
21:37.12Fiskerheey ckknight :(
21:37.22ckknightFisker, my nemesis
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21:42.15SqueeGare there any tools for raid combat parsing? specifically to pin down screw ups?
21:42.28durcynno, no one's ever parsed combat logs.
21:42.58SqueeGharr :p
21:43.15Pneumatusanyone know if theres a minipet that kills the PvZ sunflower pet?
21:47.20SqueeGApparently a beginner raid wiped like 16 times on the second boss encounter in BWD (I think that's the right one >.>) and the guild wanted to pin down who wasn't stopping or switching their dps when they were suppose to be
21:49.32SqueeGhence, my question, I'm not well versed in raid mods :p
21:51.06PneumatusEnsidiaFails reports people attacking shields
21:54.02SqueeGThanks :) I was just looking through the libfail failEvents xD
21:55.44ScytheBlade1hey, anyone good with .net
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21:55.52ScytheBlade1http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5241718/
21:55.53ScytheBlade1gogo
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21:56.15ScytheBlade1win rep once I add the bounty to it tomorrow/the day after
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22:04.48karl_w_wmind sear on a rogue to break enemy stealth = op
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22:09.27Pneumatuslol
22:09.40Pneumatusshame it gives away your rogues position also
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22:14.26Krapsthe heck http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/trailers/2858-America-2049-Teaser
22:16.43Krapsi lol'd http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/08/uk-census-smackdown.html
22:19.45SqueeG./facepalm
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22:22.29SqueeGhow does curse integrate with chrome's search engine? O_o
22:23.21SqueeGcurse.com and 'enter what ever you're searching for here' turns curse.com into a nifty little search button in chrome's address bar
22:23.40mckenziemc?
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22:24.16Sentriisn't it a standard chrome feature
22:24.21SqueeGno
22:24.32SqueeGwowpedia.org and ... doesn't change it
22:24.32Sentritype wowhead.com and press tab
22:24.47SlackwiseThat would be standard.
22:24.56SlackwiseRight-click the address bar and select "Edit Search Engines"
22:25.06SqueeGwowhead does it, curse and wowace do it, but a lot of other sites don't :p
22:25.13SlackwiseYou can add your own.
22:25.16jnwhitehwowprogramming.com used to
22:25.20jnwhitehbut it doesn't seem to now.
22:25.22jnwhitehi wonder why?
22:25.23SlackwiseThere is a variable of %s to let you insert your own queries.
22:25.26Sentriyeah it needs to have the meta or whatever tag for the search engine
22:25.30SlackwiseFirefox has has this same feature for years.
22:25.36jnwhitehoh
22:25.37SlackwiseAnd it was in Chrome since day one.
22:25.40jnwhitehonce you've searched once
22:25.41jnwhitehit does it
22:26.13SqueeGI was just wondering what needed to be done to ... do that xD
22:26.15SqueeGthat's really nifty
22:26.20Fiskerwut
22:26.22Sentri<link rel="search" ... >
22:26.26Fiskeri have a gay cat :<
22:26.29Fiskeror a blind one
22:27.28AckisFisker: your cat is happy?
22:27.35SqueeGdoes it have a gay old time?
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22:28.22Fiskerno Ackis
22:29.18mckenziemcdid it watch you masturbate?
22:31.05Fiskerno
22:31.32Ackishe didn't watch, he helped it
22:34.26SqueeGso ackis, are canadian-asians... or asian-canadians called Canasians?
22:35.14Ackisno
22:35.49SqueeGaw D:
22:37.21AdysI need a decent source for series episode names :(
22:37.34Adysimdb, tvrage and wikipedia are giving me a different name for psych s1e12
22:39.13Jamashyou done been psyched
22:39.50Arrowmasterall 3 have a completely different name?
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22:40.20AdysArrowmaster: no, simila
22:40.21Adysr
22:40.22kd3is sadpanda
22:40.35kd3watched discovery land for the last time live
22:40.43kd3actually teared up
22:40.47Adys"Cloudy Chance of Murder", "Cloudy With a Chance of Murder" and "Cloudy... Chance of Murder"
22:41.19Arrowmasterim guessing the first one is really the third one with punctuation removed
22:41.28Adysyea
22:41.29Jamashwho cares?
22:41.45AdysJamash: suck a rotten lava flow
22:41.47Arrowmasterso the question is if the 2nd one is the real one or the implied one
22:42.02JamashI don't play minecraft
22:42.09AdysArrowmaster: but still, I dont trust wikipedia as a source like this
22:42.15SqueeGthe second one is probably the full, proper, title
22:42.24Adysmaybe, maybe not
22:42.25ArrowmasterAdys: which one is the imdb one?
22:42.29Adys2nd one
22:42.29JamashAdys: buy the dvd boxed set, look at the insert
22:42.42Arrowmasterwell wikipedia doesnt trust imdb
22:43.13AdysJamash: that's what ill do eventually, but meanwhile trying to see if theres a record of them elsewhere
22:43.13kd3what's myth use? thetvdb? what's it say?
22:43.15SqueeGCloudy... With a Chance of Murder
22:43.19SqueeGhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0858238/
22:45.05SqueeGuh oh
22:45.10JamashI'm guessing that's the official title and the rest are abbreviated versions for devices/publications with limited space
22:45.19SqueeG"Cloudy...Chance of Murder"  on amazon :p
22:45.51SqueeGhttp://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B000P0I4P8/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0
22:46.04SqueeGCloudy...Chance of Murder on the back of the box
22:46.12Arrowmaster"Cloudy...Chance of Murder" on thetvdb.com too
22:46.15kd3http://thetvdb.com/?tab=episode&seriesid=79335&seasonid=16284&id=316634
22:46.16kd3yar
22:46.25Jamashpossibly abbreviated for space though
22:46.35Arrowmasterno
22:46.38Arrowmasterlook at ep4
22:46.47Arrowmasteron the box
22:46.48Jamashtrue
22:47.25kd3ooh, astronaut press conference on now
22:47.43Jamashis the press conference in space?
22:48.16SqueeGthe episodes don't display the episode name, i'm guessing
22:48.22kd3the discovery crew's post-landing conference
22:48.44Jamash"how was space?"  "same as usual"
22:49.18SqueeG"it was very spacious"
22:49.33Jamash"it's big... really big"
22:49.53SqueeG"you never quite get used to strapping yourself to a toilet"
22:50.24JamashI wish we had a real space program
22:50.32Krapshttp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/03/anonymous-revives-operation-payback-targets-copywrong.ars
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22:51.57KrapsJamash: as opposed to?
22:52.24Jamashwhat we have now is a glorified elementary school science project
22:53.57Krapsit costs a jillion dollars already, what would a "real" program cost?
22:54.05Jamashless
22:54.24kd3hopefully spacex and the rest of the commercial industry can step up to the bat, and soon
22:54.40kd3s/the bat/the plate/
22:54.42SqueeGsometimes I love anonymous
22:55.03Jamashif we were serious about space, we would drop the ISS entirely and focus on real reusable spacecraft
22:55.25Jamashthe ISS is the biggest white elephant in the history of the world
22:55.40sylvanaarspace costs too much money
22:55.47Jamashno
22:55.55sylvanaarat present
22:56.05Jamashthe way governments do space wrong costs too much money
22:56.22sylvanaarwhatever - it still costs too much money
22:56.26Jamashnot really
22:56.57sylvanaarbut, i'm all for it if I dont have to pay for it
22:57.20Jamashcommunications, gps, weather, astronomy, physics, materials, etc.
22:57.20kd3what's our space budget compared to defense?
22:57.24SqueeGSpace-yachts need to be developed faster
22:57.25kd3chump change? if that?
22:57.28Jamashyeah
22:57.34SqueeGthat'll bring a whole new generation of space exploration :p
22:58.03Jamashwe could fund NASA with the loose change fished out of DoD couches
22:58.04SqueeGwhat's our defense budget versus wellfare spending?
22:58.06SqueeGchump change
22:58.07Arrowmasterhmm i guess it still isnt decided if we are getting a shuttle here
22:58.14sylvanaaryes but we make money selling weapons so we can pay interest on our loans from china
22:58.24JamashSqueeG: defense budget has no dividends
22:58.49SqueeGNeither does wellfare spending
22:59.09sylvanaarour defense budget has dividends, arms sales
22:59.25Jamashwelfare spending has enormous dividends
23:00.03Jamashsylvanaar: fallacy of the broken window
23:00.13SqueeGwelfare spending is IOUs
23:00.23JamashI'm sorry, I misspoke, defense spending has *negative* dividends
23:00.24Arrowmasteri really hope we get one of the shuttles here, would fit in perfectly
23:00.35SqueeGand it's also on auto-pilot, with no oversight
23:00.38SqueeGunlike defense spending
23:00.46JamashSqueeG: hahahahahahahahahaha
23:00.46kd3which is on auto-pilot, with no oversight
23:00.57SqueeGDefense spending is the ONE thing our government is SUPPOSE to be spending money on
23:01.10JamashSqueeG: oh, you're a libertarian
23:01.21karl_w_whttp://www.wowpedia.org/Melee#Typical_Melee_Weapons <- lolwut?
23:01.26SqueeGconstitutionalist
23:01.31JamashSqueeG: how's life in cloud-cuckoo land?
23:01.53SqueeGI could ask the same of you
23:02.05sylvanaari want to meet a tea partier
23:02.17Fiskerkd3 kd3 kd3
23:02.20kd3I don't. racists are scary
23:02.22kd3yes, fisker?
23:02.27Fiskerit's like beetlejuice
23:02.31Fiskerbam
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23:02.43kd3meh, only if I'm paying attention
23:03.17SqueeGHammer needs to be represented by 'stoppable force'
23:03.25Fiskeroh ok
23:03.27Fiskeranyway
23:03.29Fiskeri hate printers
23:03.38Fiskeri have like a printer i haven't used for a few months
23:03.42sylvanaarok, should i get DA2 or not?
23:03.51Fiskerand i only used it to print out like 5 pages back then, and i had just replaced them
23:03.52sylvanaari need to make up my mind, and I cant
23:03.54SqueeGDA2 was pretty bad ass so far, sylvanaar
23:03.56Fiskernow it's saying it's out of ink again
23:03.59Fiskerrage
23:04.03SqueeGwe only got to play it for like.... 2 hours though
23:04.16sylvanaarconsole or pc
23:04.18SqueeGAlthough ... it looks like they removed Dual Wielding from the warrior class
23:04.24SqueeGconsole
23:04.42SqueeGMy guild member got it for PC, he was in love with it :p
23:04.49Fiskeralso kd3
23:04.53sylvanaarok, ill brb then
23:05.03Fiskeri hate them because they use those ungodly square usb connectors
23:05.06Fiskerit's wifi
23:05.14JamashI met a tea partier at work
23:05.19Fiskerbut since i've changed my AP name since then it won't associate until i get it connected via usb
23:05.23Jamashvery interesting to talk to
23:05.34Fiskerwhich means looking through a plastic bag of various cables to find that damn square usb connector
23:05.37Fiskerrage and so forth
23:05.38Jamashnot the sort of screaming nutcase you see on TV
23:06.57Fiskeralso kd3
23:07.01Fiskeri wanted my phone tomorrow
23:07.02karl_w_whow is it you can copy the preview text from a google result, and when you search for it on that page it's not found
23:07.08Fiskerbut it doesn't look like i'll get it
23:07.08karl_w_wand the page has been the same for 2 years
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23:08.07kd3anyone playing minecraft?
23:08.29Fiskerright now or in general?
23:08.35kd3your hoe working? it's been acting like a shovel
23:08.41kd3in general
23:08.44Fiskeroh ok
23:08.48Fiskeri don't use hoes
23:08.50Fiskeronly hos
23:08.53SqueeGI need to finally learn to stop sticking my unprotected hand into a hot oven
23:09.40SqueeGTV always picks the nut cases to showcase
23:10.09karl_w_wlike people who stick their hand into hot ovens?
23:10.13SqueeGmy hoe works round the clock, yo
23:10.15karl_w_wand libertarians?
23:10.24GnarfozFisker, kd3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5H5r4_CoJo
23:10.27SqueeGbah
23:10.42SqueeGlike you've never stuck your hand into the oven because you're too lazy to get a utensil >.>
23:11.32Gnarfozif you need to "get" it, you're storing it in the wrong place to begin with
23:12.30karl_w_wwe have those long oven thingies hanging over the oven door handle
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23:13.46SqueeGi was plucking a fry out to see if they were crispy enough :p
23:14.38Gnarfoz...and couldn't be bothered to pull out the ...
23:14.43Gnarfoz~x de en Backblech
23:14.47karl_w_wGnarfoz: i saw that jeopardy question on actual television, and i still dont know why hoe isnt a correct answer
23:14.57Gnarfoz~x de en blech
23:15.07Gnarfozpurl is so inflexible :(
23:15.07SqueeGgnarfoz: nope :p
23:15.18SqueeGI'm from new york >.> We're impatient about our food
23:15.26Gnarfozwell, you got what you deserved! :P
23:15.27SqueeGI suppose you wait for your pizza to cool before eating it too!
23:15.51Gnarfozif I burn my tongue on the first bite, what am I going to taste the rest of the pizza with?
23:15.56Jamashyou use a hoe to get stuff out of the oven?
23:16.16Gnarfozkarl_w_w: probably because a ho isn't an immoral pleasure seeker?
23:16.17Fiskerfucking finally Gnarfoz
23:16.17SqueeGdamn right, Jamash
23:16.21SqueeGthey yell at fiorst
23:16.27SqueeGsomething about it being hot or what not
23:16.32FiskerHP's driver tool spent the last 5 minutes blocking mirc from opening
23:16.34GnarfozJamash: if he had, he wouldn't be in the situation he's in :D
23:16.39GnarfozFisker: mirclol
23:16.46karl_w_wlol mirc
23:16.47Jamasha hoe is an agricultural tool used to dig and move dirt
23:16.57mckenziemcgnarfozlol
23:17.01SqueeGxD
23:17.03Gnarfozcorrect(lol)
23:17.22karl_w_wFisker your HP's driver tool is trying to protect you
23:17.24Jamasha peel is a tool used to slide baked goods into and out of an oven
23:17.27karl_w_wit clearly knows better than you
23:17.30Gnarfozbut a ho is a prostitute, whose *customers* might be considered immoral pleasure seekers, but not they themselves?
23:17.59SqueeGi wonder how many prostitutes start off in the 'profession' for the pleasure
23:18.14Jamashnone?
23:18.17karl_w_wi know i did
23:18.37Gnarfozthere's quite probably a measurable amount of those, read some autobiographies ;)
23:19.06Xyphoidon that note, http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/christchurch-earthquake-2011/4750833/Sex-workers-enjoy-post-quake-boom
23:19.12FiskerLOL WAT
23:19.14Fiskerkd3
23:19.14FiskerWAT
23:19.15FiskerLOL
23:19.33Fiskerit says my magneta is at like 10%
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23:19.44Fiskerwhich is awesome since i only ever print in black/white
23:19.50Fiskerkisses bluspacecow
23:19.55bluspacecowhai2u fisker
23:19.59GnarfozFisker: I'm magneto AND Gandalf!
23:20.05Fiskeroh u Gnarfoz
23:20.07Gnarfozoh, magneta... :<
23:20.16Jamashis magneta magneto's wife?
23:20.27Fiskermakes sense
23:20.30Fiskeronyxia = female
23:20.33Fiskermagneta = female
23:20.40JamashI blame Latin
23:21.13GnarfozLatin1 is evil, indeed
23:21.18Gnarfozshould've used utf-8
23:22.20KrapsXyphoid: huh?
23:22.25mckenziemcFiskeria = ?
23:22.36karl_w_wFisker: yeah but does your printer have black?
23:22.45karl_w_wor does it make black out of the colours
23:22.47mckenziemcalso, surely a pizzaria isn't female
23:22.54Jamashsure it is
23:23.55Gnarfozin german, it is
23:25.36Krapshttp://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/03/09/anti-piracy-group-helps-nab-039major-pirate039
23:25.45mckenziemcfeminine, but not female
23:26.00mckenziemcyou wouldn't have sex with a pizzaria would you?
23:26.35Krapsis the dickwolf thing going to affect pax?
23:27.14Gnarfozmckenziemc: female translates directly to the german word used to describe the gender of words, so
23:27.21JamashI hope someone shows up in a plush dickwolf costume
23:27.24mckenziemcah
23:27.51Gnarfoz(feminine doesn't, since it's simply a latin word)
23:28.08Gnarfozgah it's too late o'clock already
23:28.46Jamash...and wearing a rape clock
23:29.29Krapsdude
23:29.54Jamashlook, if PAX isn't a place for inappropriate humor, the terrorists have already won
23:31.24SqueeGi'm glad countires are so focues on software pirates that they forget about maritime pirates
23:32.04SqueeGxD strike that from the record!
23:32.40Jamashhttp://images.cosplay.com/photos/22/2261342.jpg
23:33.10SqueeGahahaha
23:33.51Krapsis that the silent hill thing?
23:34.53SqueeGCandice said men were cruising up and down the street and no sooner was a girl dropped off, than she was picked up by another client.
23:34.53SqueeG"There's just lots of men here; lots of men without their wives and they're going to be a bit naughty."
23:35.14SqueeGa bit naughty.... and going to be bringing home 'presents' for their wives!
23:36.12JamashSTDs?
23:38.00SqueeG<PROTECTED>
23:38.02SqueeGand STDs
23:38.52Krapsi dont get the relation with earthquakes and prostitutes
23:39.19Xyphoidwe have heaps of USAR / recovery teams in town i guess
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23:40.02SqueeG"In three years, I've never made this much before. The foreign ones are the best - they pay the most.
23:40.03SqueeG"They are saying they are stressed out and they need to get some stress relief."
23:40.38SqueeGi
23:40.44SqueeGIs prostitution legal in NZ?
23:40.49Xyphoidyeah
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23:41.26mckenziemcPress any key to boot from Fisker.
23:41.31Jamash.
23:41.37JamashNO WAIT
23:41.51Jamashctrl-alt-delctrl-alt-delctrl-alt-delctrl-alt-delctrl-alt-delctrl-alt-delctrl-alt-delctrl-alt-del
23:42.01SqueeGhuh, didn't know that
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23:42.30JamashKraps: Yes, that's pyramid head
23:42.57Jamashabout to rape Lelouch
23:46.53SqueeGjamash
23:47.04SqueeGhave you followed the net neutrality government tangle?
23:51.53Fiskerslaps SqueeG around a bit with a large trout
23:52.01Fiskerslaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout
23:54.44SqueeGwallops Fisker with a medium-sized Tractor
23:55.52JamashSqueeG: enough to know they're screwing it up

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