IRC log for #wowuidev on 20110219

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01:37.32Jamash^
01:37.53Jamashat that point I'm most likely to just close the page
01:38.00Corrodiashappened just today, although 3 were google domains, so they are not so crazy
01:38.04Corrodiasnot so unknown
01:38.08Jamashstill crazy
01:38.19Jamashso twitter is using t.co
01:38.37Jamashand twimg.com
01:38.46Corrodiasdid they really need to save on bandwidth that dropping 7 characters is important?
01:38.50Jamashno
01:39.02Corrodiasdidn't think so
01:39.53JamashI hover over a link in a tweet. The url in the tweet text starts with "shar.es", the title text starts with "koresecure.com", and the status bar says "t.co".
01:40.21JamashBasically what I'm saying is that Twitter is acting like a phishing site.
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01:44.25karl_w_wthe google homepage has 8 domains
01:44.49JamashI'm sick of it
01:44.59JamashLRN2SUBDOMAIN BITCHES
01:45.10karl_w_wthrows up on Jamash's carpet
01:45.29Jamashwashes karl_w_w's mouth out with soap
01:45.42Corrodiasas long as the functionality of the page doesn't require allowing javascript from one or two of the mess, i'm okay with a few domains
01:45.43karl_w_w13 on msn.com
01:46.24karl_w_wanother thing
01:46.36karl_w_wim tired of websites redirecting me to a localized version
01:46.42CorrodiasYES
01:46.51karl_w_wif i wanted au.yahoo.com, I would have typed the fucker in
01:47.00Jamashwell, that might h
01:47.04Jamashwoops
01:47.20karl_w_wimpressive, only 5 on yahoo.com
01:47.28Jamashmight have something to do with sending you to a regionally located server
01:50.34karl_w_w21 including subdomains on hotmail
01:50.43Jamashsubdomains are fine
01:50.53karl_w_wgfx1.hotmail.com gfx2.hotmail.com gfx3.hotmail.com gfx4.hotmail.com
01:51.10Jamashwait, justin bieber died on csi?
01:51.14karl_w_wwhy are they fine? :P
01:51.16karl_w_wyes he did
01:51.21karl_w_wsadly only his character
01:51.22Jamashthat must be cathartic for a lot of people
01:52.13Cidehaha Shirik
01:52.27Cidewe have like two Chelley's Staff of Dark Mending that we can't use :/
01:55.07karl_w_wthe auction house can use anything
01:55.26Jamashkarl_w_w: when it's a subdomain I can at least tell it's part of the same organization
01:55.45Jamashwhen it's atwola or some shit I have no idea unless I look it up
01:56.09Shirikfu Cide :(
02:07.51cogwheelFisker:
02:08.02cogwheelMy alchemy specialty: left-click mastery
02:08.14cogwheelsometimes when i click my left mouse button it procs for 2
02:08.20cogwheel(read: qq need a new mouse)
02:10.05karl_w_wnice, i burn 2 mb to a rw dvd, the burn takes a few seconds, then it takes 7 minutes to do it's "synchronizing cache"
02:10.12karl_w_wit's Jamash's fault
02:10.35JamashI blame Fisker
02:11.12Jamashpeople still use RW optical?
02:11.32JamashI thought everyone had sixteen billion flash drives lying around
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02:15.11karl_w_wi dont 99% of the time
02:15.34karl_w_wi am atm cos im trying out different encodes to see if I can get one of them working on a dvd player
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02:16.53karl_w_wso far, none of them
02:17.09Jamashdoes the dvd player say it supports RW?
02:17.58karl_w_woh yeah it supports rw
02:18.10karl_w_wit just doesnt say anything about what video formats it supports
02:18.26Jamashmpeg-2 I would assume
02:19.11karl_w_wnah its better than that
02:19.43Jamashif it doesn't say what it supports, then it probably only supports mpeg2
02:20.28karl_w_wit supports at least h263
02:21.30karl_w_wtrouble is i dont think i have any programs that will do a decent h263 encode
02:21.45karl_w_wi've moved on to h264 like most of the world
02:22.38karl_w_wand i dont really want to spend hours playing around with avidemux settings
02:23.15TC-Workgah, terminal server can go screw itself
02:25.27Jamashit probably already did
02:26.38Jamashhmm, where's my authentimacator
02:29.07Jamashthere it is
02:31.45karl_w_wi always know where my authenticator is, it's on my desktop :P
02:36.36karl_w_wodd, seems divx isnt supported but xvid is
02:39.13IrielNew minecraft render: http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/minecraft/render-2011-02-19-021252-431.jpg (and http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/minecraft/render-2011-02-19-021743-968.jpg).. Almost got water where I want it, almost.
02:39.26IrielStill some annoying hacks in my lighting code I need to iron out
02:44.21Nobgulwow nice
02:45.25SixenWhoa crazy
02:46.39IrielSadly they're not _fast_, but I can't have it all 8-)
02:48.29karl_w_wfuturistic graphics right there
02:49.45NobgulSo when you gonna help blizzard with the water in wow =P
02:50.15IrielI like the wow water, well, mostly, the reflectivity is a bit off in places
02:51.01NobgulI dunno it just seems to be missing something to me. Although it is 10000% better then it used ot be
02:52.07IrielWell, there usually need to be tradeoffs to do stuff in real time on normal hardware
02:53.47karl_w_wthe thing missing from wow water is splashes
02:54.05karl_w_wor any sort of foaming
02:55.43Irielyeah, that's very true
02:57.49[Wobin]Iriel: haha, that's awesome, what are you aiming for in the end product?
02:58.56[Wobin]Iriel: You should screenshot that render with the legoblock texture pack
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03:00.51IrielWobin: I'm aiming for high quality high resolution, preferably a bit faster than it is currently but performance is somewhat feature dependent (i.e. I can turn off features and get more performance)
03:00.53NobgulIriel, Minecraft is your creation or do you just work on it?
03:01.05TC-Work>.<
03:01.06SixenPretty sure he's just modding it.
03:01.10NobgulAh ok.
03:01.15IrielNobgul: I just enjoy creating things in it, and wanted to visualize them
03:01.23airtonixin what?
03:01.24Nobgulhey TC-Work.
03:01.29TC-WorkNobgul: i hope that rock of yours get some kind of news :p
03:01.33IrielWobin: The code will (mostly) work with any texture pack
03:01.54IrielWobin: It's running from a custom painterly at the moment
03:01.56airtonixIriel: get processing working in wow, GO!
03:02.15airtonixhttp://www.processing.org/
03:02.27IrielI'm familiar with processing 8-)
03:02.35IrielAnd err, no. 8-)
03:02.38airtonixit's a very nice idea
03:02.41karl_w_whow's that guy coming with his minecraft cpu?
03:03.24karl_w_wno new updates
03:03.25karl_w_wpfft
03:03.35SixenI remember seeing that a few months ago
03:03.54karl_w_wi want to see him playing wow inside minecraft before im satisfied
03:03.55SixenWasn't he planning on a compiler as well?
03:03.58Sixenlol
03:04.17IrielMinecraft CPU's have a bit of a density problem
03:04.21[Wobin]If Iriel were Notch, my brain would explode
03:04.25Irielthough I think notch has acknowledged that
03:04.48IrielI do plan on hunting Notch down at GDC
03:04.54Sixenbaahaha
03:05.15karl_w_wthats hot
03:05.26[Wobin]geek on geek action
03:06.21Sixenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_AgDOt2C8k -- that's sick.
03:06.35TC-WorkIriel: with a shotgun?
03:07.05IrielTC-Work: now now, dont be violent
03:07.13[Wobin]Iriel: I suggest the legopack because there's something ... disjointed in having the realistic water with the normal textures. Legoblocks would ameliorate the difference
03:07.17TC-WorkIriel: why?
03:07.22airtonixTC-Work: no with lube
03:07.40karl_w_wsixen: -ening.
03:07.42TC-Workairtonix: get laid already
03:07.47IrielWobin: I kind of like it that way
03:07.55airtonixTC-Work: your logic is in error
03:08.48TC-Worklogic my pasty white ass
03:09.05[Wobin]Sixen: hahah, so much blue wool
03:19.53Sixenlol
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03:37.02Adyshttp://googledocs.blogspot.com/2011/02/12-new-file-formats-in-google-docs.html
03:37.07Adyssweet :)
03:37.24Sixen.ttf, we can make fonts?
03:37.38Sixenohm, just viewer
03:40.34airtonixAdys: re: python : what do you call it when you have a class within a class
03:40.42Adysmetaclass
03:40.45airtonixthanks
03:41.35cogwheelmmmmmmmmm steeeakkkk nighhhhtttt
03:41.37airtonixAdys:was one of the problems you had with django that custom form widgets Media metclass doesn't prevent duplicate js or css files ?
03:41.47SixenI'm on a losing streak
03:41.48Sixen>.>
03:42.03Adysairtonix: No, I gave up on django forms after very little time, made my own form engine
03:54.33Cidelawl
03:54.42Cidedjango's forms are awesome
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04:32.08mckenziemchmm, i wonder if it would be possible (note that i didn't say useful) to create a working X server- type system for WoW
04:33.20mckenziemcobv not for playing on the client, but for, say, viewing of stuff
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04:34.19mckenziemcbags, and w.e else an addon on the "server" side could send
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04:36.35mckenziemcX window system*
04:39.35mckenziemcyay, they clarified this error message: "You already have a Mana Gem in your bank."  It used to give a cryptic message
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04:49.30Wobin"You already have a mana gem behind your left ear"
04:49.40Wobin"You're wearing one already, idiot"
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04:53.34karl_w_wwhy would you put your mana gem in your bank? :P
04:56.45Seerahthat's what I was thinking :p
04:56.45karl_w_wthe only time my mana gem has confused me was when 4.0.1 hit and i was trying to conjur my mana gem and i still had the old version in my bag, or something like that
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04:58.13mckenziemc1clearing bags
04:58.21mckenziemc1this character acts as a mule a lot
04:58.23airtonixCide: any ideas how i make sure a custom form widgets Media metaclass situation i mentioned ?
04:58.27mckenziemc1@karl_w_w
04:58.46karl_w_wdont @ me
04:58.52karl_w_wim not an imap server
04:59.08mckenziemc1no@karl_w_w
04:59.08airtonixCide: http://dpaste.com/432056/
04:59.14Adys[04:34:05] <mckenziemc> hmm, i wonder if it would be possible (note that i didn't say useful) to create a working X server- type system for WoW
04:59.15Adyswhat?
04:59.30airtonixurdoinitwrung
04:59.33airtonixWUT
04:59.50mckenziemc1_might_ be useful for dual-boxing
05:00.02mckenziemc1not for the commands, but for simplifing the slaves' UIs
05:00.25mckenziemc1multiboxing*
05:00.34Cideairtonix: what about it
05:01.15mckenziemcs/the commands/using abilities/
05:01.19airtonixCide: well i'd like to be able to include js/jquery-1.4.3.js in each of those widgets js tuples
05:01.41airtonixCide: but if i use both those widgets in one form the js appears twice in the {{Form.media}}
05:02.05airtonixCide: i haven't tried iterating that variable yet
05:02.20HirsuteInteresting to see the vote-kick changes.  I think changing it to give the deserter debuff to someone who is kicked from a group while out of the instance or while having been out of combat/afk for more than x amount of time would have done more to curve bad behavior than these did, though.
05:02.34Cideah
05:02.35Cidenot sure
05:02.59Hirsutes/curve/curb
05:03.20airtonixCide: i guess i have to create a manager
05:09.29mckenziemcHirsute: unfortunately many groups are kick-happy
05:10.51Hirsutemckenziemc: The change I suggested would only affect people who weren't contributing to the group.  There are few things that piss me off more than a tank or healer who decides he doesn't like the group he's with, so he ports out of the instance and refuses to drop group, insisting that the group kick him (so he doesn't get the debuff) or sit there twiddling their thums.
05:10.54Hirsute*thumbs
05:11.22mckenziemcbut that's not the only case that would be affected by your suggestion
05:11.49Hirsutemckenziemc: My suggestion would only affect people who weren't contributing to the group at the time of being kicked.
05:11.59mckenziemcpeople kick before trying other methods -- even something as simple as asking "are you almost done out there" gets skipped
05:12.40karl_w_wi usually get transfer aborted instance not found
05:12.44mckenziemci've gotten kicked for going afk for just over 1 minute before
05:13.00karl_w_wso im not going to be getting into many lfd groups once this change hits
05:13.01Hirsutemckenziemc: Did you clear the afk with the group first?
05:13.15mckenziemci said "brb quick"
05:14.39HirsuteGenerally, if someone says that in one of my groups, and doesn't seem to have waited to see any responses at all, or have indicated some actual amount of time, I get itchy about it, too.  It's fairly inconsiderate to the four people waiting on you.  I've never kicked someone for it in fewer than 10 minutes, though.
05:15.09mckenziemcyeah, but emergencies happen
05:15.46HirsuteAnd if an emergency really happened, how likely are you to be back before the debuff is gone anyway if you're gone for more than a few seconds?
05:15.51mckenziemcpersonally i feel that while unfortunate, allowing for the fringe cases is more important than the benefit from "normal" cases (this is in regards to the deserter part, i don't mind the rest)
05:16.19mckenziemcthat's not an excuse till long after 1 minute :p
05:17.58HirsuteI don't buy it.  An emergency happens on my end that requires me to be gone more than 30 seconds (at least, if it doesn't allow me to say, "Hey, I need 5 minutes" within that 30 seconds), it's going to require me to be gone more than 30 minutes.
05:18.25Corrodiasanybody worried about time-based penalties in WoW is playing the wrong game
05:18.39Corrodiasit is supposed to be a bottomless time sink
05:19.02mckenziemcand back when IceHUD was causing crashes when zoning in combat, i would get kicked from a new group before i could even log back in (and i didn't know that icehud was the cause)
05:19.08karl_w_wive never seen anyone kicked for a brb
05:19.18HirsuteAnd yet I don't think I've ever gone more than 5 random dungeons without coming across one of these douche-nozzle tanks.
05:21.19HirsuteOr, perhaps a better solution: Give people a "tag afk/out of dungeon" option, and if all 4 of the other members in the dungeon flag someone, it pops up a dialogue that allows them to click that they're there (porting them back in when they do) or times out and gives them the debuff.
05:21.47mckenziemcyour cat suddenly screams loudly, you have no idea what's going on, but need to find out quickly, what do you do?
05:21.55Hirsutemckenziemc: "
05:22.04Hirsute"Brb, cat screaming."
05:22.06mckenziemcthat's not a bad idea
05:22.35HirsuteAnd if it needs my attention for more than a minute, pop back on and say, "Cat caught the toaster on fire and broke it's leg, I need 5/10 minutes"
05:22.48Corrodiasback when i played, you'd say something like "brb minor emergency" and people would just kinda wait for a while
05:22.56HirsuteIf I'm going to be gone more than 5 minutes in a random dungeon, though, I'll offer to drop group to not slow the group down.
05:23.08mckenziemcthat i agree with
05:23.45mckenziemcthe problem is "how long do we wait to get more info, and do we ask what's up or just go to a kick?"
05:24.02HirsuteWhich is why kick-happy people are already penalized.
05:24.20mckenziemcto a degree, yes
05:24.57mckenziemcbut it _may_ or _may not_ be enough, and the idea of adding deserter to someone who's kicked makes that distinction more important
05:25.17mckenziemcmakes determining that distiction*
05:26.53HirsuteIn my (albeit limited) experience, far more disruption is caused by people trying to force groups to kick them to avoid the debuff than would be caused by instituting a mechanism to apply the debuff to people trying to force a group to kick them.
05:27.29mckenziemcthat i despise, and wish there was a way to punish it without affecting other cases
05:29.01mckenziemcalso, i haven't done any endgame lately; the problems may occur with different proportions between that and leveling dungeons
05:29.24mckenziemcwe do get the stuck-up tanks on occasion but it's pretty rare
05:30.26HirsuteIt seems to get worse once people start outgearing an instance and they get put in a group that's mostly newbies who might actually get upgrades there.  They don't like the time it takes, or hte possibility of a wipe, and try to force the group to kick them.
05:30.34mckenziemcyeah
05:31.33HirsuteAnyhow, enough bitching from me.  I just got wife aggro.
05:31.39mckenziemclol
05:31.45kd3yay
05:31.53kd3now has the murloc aggro sound for his phone ringtone
05:31.56kd3yay smartphones
05:32.11mckenziemchates phones
05:32.30Sixenlol kd3, that's awesome.
05:36.02Shirikwtb druid
05:36.03Shirikum
05:36.05Shiriknevcairiel_
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06:00.04mckenziemc"what's the story behind Gamon?" "he's just another troubled teenager"
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06:42.37Adysjnwhiteh_: ping
06:42.50Adysor Iriel
06:43.12Irielhm?
06:43.19AdysIriel: you're on mac os x yeah?
06:43.31Irielyup
06:44.15AdysIriel: any idea how file-to-filetype is handled on mac os x? I'm checking if i need to implement an osx backend for my python-mime module
06:44.30Adysright now it's defaulting to the xdg spec
06:44.37IrielI think there are several mechanisms, and i'm not sure what they all are
06:44.59IrielI treat it more or less like a unix system
06:45.06Irielbut it doesn't always want to cooperate
06:45.24IrielThere's probably docuymentation on the developer site
06:45.29Adyscan you check if you have a mime folder or an xdg folder somewhere?
06:45.45Adyson linux its either in /usr, /usr/share, ~/.local/share or ~/.local
06:46.03Irielsure, sec
06:47.15IrielThere's /usr/share/file/magic/mime
06:47.25Adysoh, hm
06:47.29Adyswhat's in there?
06:48.00IrielOh, pretty much nothing
06:48.12Irieljust a match for a Content-Type: header, for use by the file(1) command
06:48.28Adysah
06:48.48Adysyeah i see i have it too
06:49.14Adysany chance you can look for a file called "globs" or "globs2" ?
06:49.47IrielThe only one I have installed is part of Gimp
06:50.12Adyswell thats a shame
06:50.26Irielhttp://superuser.com/questions/20822/where-does-mac-os-x-store-file-association-information
06:50.32IrielThat MIGHT be the answer
06:50.51Adysyeah, had a look at launchservices, but it's not what I need :(
06:51.24Irielwhat exactly do you need?
06:51.43Adysa way in python to associate a filename to a mimetype
06:51.48Adysand if possible file magic to a mime type
06:52.09Adyshm
06:52.11Adyswhat's in ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices.plist ?
06:52.25IrielHm, my python install has a ton of mime related files
06:52.40Adysyeah, python has a shite mimetypes module builtin
06:55.36IrielStuff like this:              {
06:55.37Iriel<PROTECTED>
06:55.37Iriel<PROTECTED>
06:55.37Iriel<PROTECTED>
06:55.37Iriel<PROTECTED>
06:55.38Iriel<PROTECTED>
06:56.19Adysugh
06:56.39Adysyea i think ill take care of mac os x another time
06:56.42Irielin a binary format, no less (though it can be XML)
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07:05.49AdysWhat the hell
07:05.54AdysI just got Hand of A'dal
07:11.05airtonixFisker: people are stupid
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07:29.16Shirikwtf Adys
07:29.19sylvanaar_ipadWhats up...besides me?
07:29.19Shirikyou're not allowed :(
07:29.21Shirikthat is mine
07:29.54AdysShirik: not allowed to what?
07:30.01Shirikget hand of adal :(
07:31.53Adysthat was a bit weird yea
07:46.39mckenziemcAdys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_code _might_ be relevant
07:47.14mckenziemci have no experience with macs, but i was reading about file extensions recently and remember coming across that.
07:47.34Adysi remember those, and no it's not relevant to what I need, but thanks
07:47.51mckenziemck
07:48.00Adysthey're not in use anymore
07:51.14Adysit's kind of a shame
07:51.18Adysthey were a neat idea
07:57.51mikmahttp://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/tumblr_lgryebbszi1qex2bto1_500.jpg
07:58.05Adysold
07:58.17Adysi think you're the one who already linked it in fact
07:58.25mikmadon't think so
08:00.50FiskerShirik
08:01.42mckenziemcPopcorn
08:07.24Fiskerslaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout
08:07.37Fiskerwhy are people stupid airtonix ?
08:08.15Adysholy crap, they changed the core hounds.
08:09.42Fiskerit's treason then
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08:10.43Fiskergreppy what a silly name
08:17.12greppySays someone with the nick "Fisker".
08:22.24Fiskerputs down a beat
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08:27.29Fiskerstolenlegacy
08:27.39stolenlegacyhm
08:33.41Fiskermckenziemc
08:36.45Fiskerhits sylvanaar_ipad
08:37.20mikmaBatman: Arkham Asylum. Bestestest game evah.
08:37.59Fiskersup nevcairiel
08:38.01nevcairielShirik: ?
08:38.09mikmaeir: !
08:38.29mikmafisker: i have a fun game for you and me
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08:38.48Fiskeryes?
08:39.13airtonixtetris
08:39.18Fiskerno!
08:39.20Fiskerhey airtonix
08:39.22mikmayou say a number of 1-5 to me, i pick a random letter and press tab (nickcomplete) that many times and tell him he sucks
08:39.56Fisker3
08:40.07mikmahaste: you suck
08:40.08mikmahaha
08:40.12mikmathat's cool
08:40.17mikmanext
08:40.26airtonixit'll be haste again
08:40.26Fisker1
08:40.32mikmalulia: you suck
08:40.39Fisker4
08:40.46mikmaeir: you suck
08:40.57Fisker5
08:41.08mikmanebula169: you suck
08:41.14Fisker2
08:41.20mikmafelipe`: you suck
08:41.24Fisker:O
08:41.27airtonixthis game is boring
08:41.29mikmathat was close
08:41.47mikmathere's no nicks starting with "u" in here
08:41.53nebula169bullies
08:42.05mikmahey, you are just collateral damage
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08:51.14Fiskeri will destroy you for free Yoshimo
08:51.42Yoshimoim not intrested
08:51.50mikmaand he also lies
08:54.42mikmafisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/party_owl.gif
08:55.02Fiskerthink i'll go get something from bj-trading.dk
08:55.14mikmahttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/gun_oclock.jpg <- want
08:57.42A-KOYou know, why does blizzard even offer a kick from group solution if they're putting so many damn restrictions on it?
08:57.48A-KOAt this point it's easier to drop group for bads than it is to kick them
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08:58.40mckenziemc>.>
08:59.05A-KOseriously
08:59.18A-KOthere's no point in kicking, just leave
08:59.26mckenziemcbecause it would get misused more than not if those restrictions _weren't_ on it
08:59.46A-KOmisused? no
08:59.57mckenziemcmaybe not more often, but too much
08:59.57airtonixkicks A-KO
09:00.03airtonixhoho
09:00.09A-KOyou know what's fucked? when someone sits in your instance and you can't kick them because a vote to kick failed the first time around, or the guy continues to pull trash and stays in combat so we can't remove.
09:00.13A-KOAnd then sits in the dungeon and goes AFK
09:00.20A-KOI've had that happen more than a few times
09:00.30airtonixi fixed that problem
09:00.40A-KOI leave groups now for bads, I go back to fishing
09:00.45A-KOor w/e it is I was doing
09:00.50airtonixqqmoar
09:01.27mikmaa-ko: battlefield bad company 2 vietnam
09:01.45A-KOhuh?
09:01.54airtonixmikma: umadbro
09:02.00mikmathanksbro
09:02.07airtonixskillz
09:02.20mikmaalso, monday's steam offer, batman arkham asylum, damnit! <3 <3 <3
09:02.38mckenziemcA-KO: i think that even if one vote-kick failed, any of the members who have a history of avoiding starting a kick can still start one, if necessary
09:02.44airtonixisn't that game just assasins creed with a different skin ?
09:02.53mckenziemci don't know the exact rules though, it's funky
09:03.46mikmaairtonix: pretty much yeah, and just cause 2 combined
09:04.47airtonixmikma: what is that guy got on his chest before waking up ?
09:05.02mikmaairtonix: i dunno, boobs?
09:05.10airtonixit looks suspiciously like a pillow
09:05.26A-KOmckenziemc: nope
09:05.29A-KOit's group-wide
09:05.42A-KOmckenziemc: once a vote to kick fails on someone there's like a 10-15 minute timer on anyone being able to bring it up again
09:05.46A-KOat least
09:06.06A-KOIn this case quite literally we had no choice but to completely drop the dungeon because we couldn't get rid of the guy. He had gone AFK in the dungeon, knowing the first vote to kick failed.
09:06.20A-KOhe went AFK and laughed at us, having done it on purpose.
09:06.28airtonixyeah fisker does that
09:06.31mckenziemci don't know if it's been removed, but i know there is/has been at least case where i've been able to start a vote kick when others couldn't
09:06.38mckenziemcat least one case*
09:06.49A-KOalso, if they pull mobs, there's a timer on combat as well
09:06.52A-KOlike a minute or two
09:07.05A-KOthere's a restriction on doing it while dead also
09:07.22A-KOat this point I don't even bother I just drop groups :P
09:08.10mckenziemcyeah the combat thing is kinda annoying
09:08.26mckenziemcask the group to stay back and let him die :p
09:08.40A-KOlike I said, I'll deal with the timer :P
09:12.05mikmahttp://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/558649168837651151/43F4588EF4B1D91D69038A81A35DC2F830F40860/
09:14.08Fisker2[7408] Portal 2 Temp Beta
09:14.09Fisker:o
09:14.40airtonixyou're regretting it
09:14.46Fiskernaw airtonix
09:14.54airtonixdenial
09:15.18Fiskernaw airtonix
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09:24.06Fiskerwoo nevcairiel
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09:24.07Fiskerwoooooooooooooooo
09:24.12mikmapoo*
09:24.15Fiskerthe bootloader on the atrix isn't encrypted
09:24.16Fiskerbam
09:24.54nevcairielare you sure? moto said they would be doing it in the future as well because carriers want it
09:25.12Fiskersure
09:25.24mikmafisker is a carrier of.. what?
09:25.32Fiskeralso they said they would take it into consideration when a lot of people went crazy
09:25.33CorrodiasSIDS
09:25.47Fiskeralso something is up here
09:26.05airtonixme
09:26.15Fiskernaw
09:26.22Fiskeranyone got the newest fringe 720p?
09:27.00nevcairielsince i don't watch fringe, no. But my TV page has it
09:27.07Fiskerhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11470653&postcount=32 btw nevcairiel
09:27.22Fiskerit's just that .r13 keeps failing
09:27.28Fiskernot sure if it's the release or the seed
09:27.38airtonixhttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/football5.gif
09:27.40nevcairielmy source bans rared uploads
09:27.49Fiskeri .rar u
09:31.27nevcairielmy stupid HTPC freezes when its trying to enter standby, wtf is up with that
09:31.32nevcairielstarted a week ago or so =(
09:31.53airtonixfor me it was usb startup events
09:31.59Fiskerstandby?
09:32.01airtonixi had the cables plugged in wrong ports
09:32.01Fiskerwhat is that?
09:32.08airtonixamerican for suspend
09:32.11nevcairielhybrid sleep
09:32.20Fiskerhybrid sleep sucks
09:32.26airtonixi agree
09:32.31airtonixbecause you are talking about windows 7
09:32.36airtonixand that sucks
09:32.53mikmaso, why do you need to hack android?
09:32.55Fiskerhybrid sleep has nothing more to do with windows 7 other than it's the term they use
09:33.05Fiskerwhy don't you need to hack android?
09:33.12airtonixumad
09:33.35nevcairielThe funny thing is, when i press the suspend button on my keyboard, it works
09:33.36mikmai mean, android seems to work just fine without hacking, so what does it add in the system
09:33.39nevcairieljust the timed event doesnt
09:34.06Fiskerdepends on what you're looking for
09:34.18Fiskerroot doesn't really add much, atleast i only need it for setcpu and root explorer
09:34.27Fiskerbut unlocking the bootloader = custom roms = win
09:34.39airtonixor changing wpa_suppplicant to allow you to connect to adhoc connections
09:36.31airtonixFisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/parking_failure2.jpg
09:37.13Corrodiashah
09:39.51Fiskerwin airtonix
09:40.33Fiskeri saw a hearse outside the butcher btw
09:43.56mckenziemcO.o
09:46.25Corrodiasi want to think that they were preparing for a practical joke
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09:57.46Fiskertrips Kalroth
09:58.07Kalrothfalls into Fiskers lap and .. snuggles!
10:02.48Kalrothhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFztjgfDWDA poor kitty
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10:11.16airtonixhttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/tourist_trolling_high_five.jpg
10:12.44Corrodiasthat looks like a huge bottle
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10:21.52Fiskershopped airtonix
10:23.07airtonixso is your face
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10:31.32airtonixhttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/floats_on_water.jpg
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10:33.30mckenziemcFiskers airtonix
10:33.56Fiskerhttp://store.steampowered.com/eula/eula_55110
10:34.13airtonixyou regret it
10:35.06Fiskernope
10:36.00airtonixbtw tl;dr
10:36.20airtonixFisker: remember this ? http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/party_hard.gif
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10:39.22Fiskermaybe i disagree airtonix
10:42.25karl_w_wyou 2 should get a room
10:42.40karl_w_wand then charge people to watch
10:43.30airtonixhttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/if_you_see_someone_drowning_-_just_lol.jpg
10:47.52Fiskerairtonix
10:49.29CorrodiasDick Smith is an interesting name
10:49.33Corrodiasyou see, it could be a title as well
10:49.48Corrodiasthe dicksmith, who forges mighty dicks from the fires of mount vesuvius
10:50.23Corrodiasdeep within the earth lies his underground workshop
10:50.30Corrodias(that there is redundant)
10:51.38Corrodiaswithin its sacred halls does he forge all the dicks for new babies everywhere. working alone, however, he only has enough time to make them for the boys.
10:51.52mckenziemc>.>
10:52.24mikmaHistory.Channel.Ancient.Discoveries.Ancient.Torture.Tech.HDTV.XviD-ViLD.avi
10:52.25mikmawoot woot
10:52.35Corrodiassure, there is a little surplus, and from it we get traps. legend has it that one day, he will find true love, and then we'll have traps, traps for everyone.
10:52.41airtonixno
10:53.16Corrodiasthat story is copyright 2011 corrodias do not steal
10:57.24Fiskeri wish i had a dick smith
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11:00.48airtonixhttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/trollface3.jpg
11:00.50airtonixfisker ^
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11:05.23Fiskerairtonix
11:06.28Fiskerslaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout
11:07.16DJJeffslaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker
11:08.53FiskerNO!
11:13.19airtonixmeanwhile in finland...
11:15.34airtonixhttp://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/meanwhile_in_finland.jpg
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11:25.11Fiskerjnwhiteh_
11:25.13Fiskeryou are here
11:26.09airtonix$ touch ./fisker
11:26.35Fiskerpermission denied
11:26.49mckenziemcpermission granted
11:29.29Adyschmods +x Fisker
11:29.32Adysexecutes Fisker
11:29.44Fisker:(
11:29.48Fiskeri was just about to LOL though
11:30.06FiskerMicrosoft defended their actions by claiming that more and more 1TB and 2TB hard drives are becoming readily available for the consumer to purchase and use. By having a large hard drive, one would not need to use a Drive Extender feature.
11:30.15FiskerYes, 1-2TB is enough for everyone!
11:31.56nevcairielWHS is crap anyway
11:32.27Fiskerso it's treason then?
11:35.07mckenziemc"their actions" = what?
11:36.29airtonixwhs ?
11:36.33airtonixwindows home shit?
11:36.39nevcairielwindows home server
11:36.40mckenziemchttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Home_Server
11:37.24mckenziemcnot that anyone sane would use a Microsoft OS for a server
11:37.35mckenziemc:D
11:37.36airtonixinb4 wtf
11:37.49bluspacecow@fisker that argument sounds familiar
11:38.02bluspacecowdidnt IBM only forsee the need for 8 computers world wide?
11:38.18airtonixwut
11:38.21bluspacecowor was it 5 comptuers and bill gates saying we only ever need 64k of mem ?
11:38.27bluspacecowthis is way way back
11:38.36airtonixmore than five lines ?
11:40.01AdysShirik: is there some #define trick to make a function call be completely absent from the resulting program?
11:40.06Fiskernaw bluspacecow
11:40.10Fiskerbill gates never said that
11:40.25Fiskerbut yeah i think IBM said something about there not being a need for a lot of computers
11:40.33Fiskeri also had lulz bluspacecow
11:40.47bluspacecowoh rly
11:44.35Fiskeryeh
11:44.47Fiskerbut unfortunately the forums are down :(
11:44.54Fiskeranyway it was like this
11:45.23FiskerZomg blizzard sucks because they banned me for harassing people because they suck at pvp and they didn't even ban those who sucked at pvp
11:48.35mikmafiskered
11:51.04mikmamckenziemc: oh you, remember the Windows NT Server times?
11:51.23airtonixspecial newspaper ?
11:52.58bluspacecoweuro forums ?
11:53.32Fiskerobviously
11:53.32mckenziemcmikma: i'm just bashing Microsoft. tbh i have no experience to be saying such things
11:54.20Fiskerwindows nt was awesoe
11:54.25Fiskerawesome
11:54.30airtonixwoesome?
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12:07.55mckenziemcFisker, I have a 3.64 tebibit drive. Are you jealous?
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12:08.31airtonixno
12:08.56mckenziemcyou should be, airtonix
12:09.30bluspacecow*giggle*
12:09.34bluspacecowhe said tittbit
12:09.39bluspacecow*tittibit*
12:15.32mckenziemctebibit
12:15.51bluspacecowoh
12:15.56bluspacecowbrb wikking it
12:16.03airtonix-_-
12:16.05bluspacecowoooooooooooo
12:16.20airtonixi have a yotabyte drive
12:16.35airtonixand a chouttematebytedrive
12:16.59bluspacecowand a clanbyte drive !
12:17.12airtonixno
12:17.16bluspacecowklonbyte
12:17.19bluspacecowpoor joke
12:17.20bluspacecownvm
12:18.01airtonixbtw
12:18.08airtonixthere are no blue tauren
12:18.44mckenziemclies
12:18.45bluspacecowthats nice dear
12:18.53airtonixonly blue goats
12:19.09mckenziemcairtonix, there's a blue tauren rogue right behind you
12:19.23airtonixunfortunately not
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12:37.13mckenziemcslaps Fisker around a bit with a 7 Tibit trout
12:37.20DJJeffslaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker
12:37.24DJJeffslaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker
12:37.44DJJeff$ chmod 0777 Fisker
12:37.50DJJeff$ ./Fisker
12:37.55mckenziemc~fiskerslap DJJeff
12:37.55purlACTION slaps DJJeff around a bit with Fisker.
12:38.58DJJeffpurl's back :)
12:39.18mckenziemc~botsnack
12:39.18purlmckenziemc: thanks
12:39.55DJJeff~seen oomp
12:39.57purli haven't seen 'oomp', DJJeff
12:40.06DJJeffneither have i
12:40.49DJJeffI guess seen would be broken anyways if purl has been offline for so long
12:40.57DJJeff~uptime
12:41.21DJJeff:(
12:41.32mikma~lol djjeff
12:41.32purlACTION Laughs out Loud at djjeff
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12:54.51mckenziemcif two folders both contain hard links to the same file, but the folders have differing permissions, how are the file's permissions determined?
12:55.26mckenziemcdoes the file itself have a set of permissions that's used, or do the effective permissions depend on which path the file was accessed through?
12:57.41mikmayes
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13:01.07mckenziemcthat wasn't a yes-or-no question >.>
13:02.52Adysno
13:03.22mckenziemconly sometimes
13:03.22Adyskd3, nevcairiel, either of you have a working WOW64 install?
13:03.29bluspacecownever said on what O/s / distro/kernel etc etc
13:03.35nevcairielwow64?
13:03.40Adyswine on wine 64
13:03.44nevcairielno
13:03.51Adyshttp://dpaste.com/433198/
13:03.52Adys:(
13:03.57Adysbeing bitchy
13:03.59mckenziemcbluspacecow: on any common system
13:04.29Fiskeryou must mean windows on windows 64 Adys
13:04.37AdysFisker: I mean wine on wine
13:04.43Fiskeri know
13:04.52Fiskerbut you must mean windows on windows 64
13:04.54AdysFisker: I mean wine on wine
13:04.58Fiskeri know
13:05.02Fiskerbut you must mean windows on windows 64
13:05.07AdysFisker: I mean wine on wine
13:05.09Fisker:(
13:05.12Fiskerthis sucks
13:05.24Adysur dum
13:06.30airtonixmeanwhile in sweden
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13:09.36mikmafisker: you suck
13:10.09Fiskerno u
13:10.20Fiskeri didn't specify a number
13:10.21Fisker:(
13:13.16Kalrothwhy so emo
13:16.44mikma~yousuck
13:16.44purlwell, yousuck is SqueeG: you suck
13:16.51mikmadang!
13:17.13mikmanow what was it...
13:17.39FiskerKalroth
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13:19.48DJJeff$ rm -rf Fisker
13:23.25mikma~yousuck
13:23.25purlAeyan: you suck
13:23.31mikmacool.. hehe
13:25.02STALhas anyone experienced PlaySoundFile returning 1 but not actually plying the sound?
13:26.10DJJeffaddon sounds have been fucked up PRE CATA
13:26.13DJJeff*cough*
13:26.16airtonixdid you know fisker ?
13:26.55airtonixthat sometimes in norwedenland
13:27.21airtonixit suddenly
13:27.26Fiskercold?
13:27.30airtonixyeah
13:28.23STAL:s
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13:37.38Fiskerfoxlit
13:37.42Fiskerairtonix is a jerk
13:37.57DJJeffand Fisker is a troll
13:38.12Fiskerno
13:38.20Fiskeri'm tauren
13:38.25DJJeffwhat do trolls eat I wanna feed you
13:38.49DJJeff\/\/ warning dont feed the trolls \/\/
13:38.58techno-geekI need to dynamically build a frame name FooBarFrame .. "One" for example. Is there an easy way to accomplish this?
13:39.16DJJeffI thought FooBar died
13:39.17techno-geekI wish to use the result in anchoring a different frame to it
13:39.19DJJefflike ages ago
13:39.28techno-geekis old fashioned
13:39.34DJJeffI use Broker Addons X_X
13:39.48DJJeffBazooka gets updated
13:39.56DJJeffand TitanPanel
13:40.40DJJeffFooBar still has a nice Performance addon but theres a fubar2broker addon
13:40.57DJJeffshPerformance is lame :(
13:41.16techno-geekI mainly meant it for an example, not a reference to an existing addon
13:41.17mikma~yousuck
13:41.18purlKetho: you suck
13:43.06foxlittechno-geek: Given that widget is a frame handle, you can do
13:43.13foxlitlocal name = widget:GetName() .. "Baz"
13:43.14LuliaI'm sleeping and I get made fun of :(
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13:46.11techno-geekfoxlit: I am trying to get around the fact that it can't be a string. I have to anchor it to the object, not the string name of the object
13:46.34foxlitSo the frame whose name you're constructing already exists?
13:47.10techno-geekyeah. I am dynamically creating StatusBar Frames
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13:47.18techno-geekand I am trying to anchor each one to the bottom of the previous
13:47.18foxlitFine; then look it up in _G
13:47.22foxlitlocal ref = _G[name]
13:47.46techno-geekI haven't used the globals yet. Ill check there thanks
13:49.49techno-geekworked like a charm, tnx
13:55.36Fiskerstop making pancakes foxlit
13:56.42foxlitI'll engulf as I please, Fisker.
13:57.07mckenziemcyeah, i'd prefer waffles instead
13:57.29FiskerLOLOLOLOL
13:57.36Fiskerhttp://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1748735025
13:57.43Fisker"I wish i could tell you some more details about the project, but at the moment it is secret."
14:00.27KalrothWhy is google so dumb! I almost switched to Chrome, but noo
14:02.08FiskerKALROTH
14:02.14FiskerDie Kalroth Die
14:02.23Kalrothdo you use chrome fisker
14:02.42Fiskeryes Kalroth
14:02.56Kalrothdo you use googles bookmark sync thingy
14:03.16Fiskerno
14:03.20Fiskeri don't even use bookmarks
14:03.22Fiskerfuck that
14:03.25Kalrothusux
14:04.40Fiskeri don't like sex with men Kalroth
14:04.58Kalrothdidnt your mom teach you not to lie
14:06.41Alramwow Fisker
14:06.46Alramfuck you you told me it was good
14:06.51Alramwere done
14:08.19Adysamazing~
14:08.24mckenziemcFisker: protection of intellectual property i suppose
14:08.31Adysfixed the WoW64 setup. stupid --libdir issues
14:08.50AdysKalroth: i use it
14:08.55Adyswanna sync each other's porn?
14:09.00mckenziemc>.>
14:09.11Kalrothhow? googles own docs syas it doesnt work yet
14:10.07AdysKalroth: eh?
14:10.21Kalrothhttp://www.google.com/bookmarks
14:10.24Adysbookmark sync has been working for almost a year
14:10.31zenzelezzsyncing porn, isn't that what BitTorrent is for?
14:10.40Kalrothit works in google toolbar, how to make it work in chrome?
14:11.18AdysKalroth: preferences -> personal stuff -> Sync
14:11.32AdysCustomize -> Sync Bookmarks
14:12.09Adysyou can sync apps, passwords, autofill, preferences, bookmarks, themes and extensions
14:12.22Adysit's pretty awesome
14:12.35mckenziemcfeeds Fisker to the dogs.
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14:12.59mikma~yousuck
14:12.59purlYcarene: you suck
14:13.19KalrothAdys, where do i see the bookmarks button then?
14:13.24KalrothI'm synced now, I think
14:13.35Adyssettings -> bookmark manager?
14:13.37mckenziemci don't think that's a wise use of $randnick : /
14:13.45Adysnot sure what you mean by bookmarks button
14:13.54mckenziemc~factinfo yousuck
14:13.54purlyousuck -- created by mikma <mikma@reaktio.net> 57m 53s ago; last modified 50m 41s ago  by mikma!mikma@reaktio.net; it has been requested 4 times, last by mikma, 55s ago.
14:14.00KalrothI got a button that opens a menu of the bookmarks in firefox
14:14.08Kalrothwith all the synced bookmarks
14:14.31AdysKalroth: sync synchronizes ALL your bookmarks, not a selection of them
14:14.32Kalrothand my bookmarks manager page seems empty :p
14:14.35Kalrothsure
14:14.59AdysKalroth: are you sure you're also syncing from the install you got all your bookmarks in?
14:15.10Kalroth[15:10:33] <Kalroth> http://www.google.com/bookmarks
14:15.13Kalroth^
14:15.18Adysyeah i cant see your bookmarks from there
14:15.19Adys:P
14:15.29Kalrothcan you see your own bookmarks there?
14:15.29Adysbut thanks for the c:\\file.txt
14:15.32Adysyeah
14:15.43Kalrothokay, how did you get them into Chrome? :)
14:15.48AdysOH
14:15.57Adysyou want to sync FROM google bookmarks TO chrome
14:16.01Kalroth..
14:16.07Kalrothboth ways, but yes that too
14:16.26Adyschrome sync automatically updates google bookmarks
14:16.32Kalrothright now I sync from firefox to google bookmarks and back
14:16.34Kalrothno it doesn't
14:16.38Kalrothim signed in now
14:16.42Kalrothand i got zero bookmarks
14:16.47Adysin google bookmarks?
14:16.47Maldivia_check about:Sync
14:16.58Kalrotheverything is enabled
14:17.08Adysabout:sync gives you sync info
14:17.14Kalrothyes, what about it?
14:17.32Kalrothit says "Syncing: false" - how do i enable it? :p
14:17.41Adyser
14:17.47Adyspreferences -> personal -> sync
14:17.58Kalrothi did that
14:18.07Maldiviaunless you look at that page right as it's fetching something, you'll see false there
14:18.09Kalroththe button there says "stop syncing this account"
14:18.17Kalrothah, so it's current status
14:18.22Maldiviayeah
14:18.23Adystry disabling and then reenabling the sync
14:19.13Kalrothstill no good
14:19.25Kalrothbookmark manager is just as empty as before :p
14:19.30Adysi dont think enabling sync will automatically download all your google bookmarks into the bookmark manager
14:19.31Fiskerhave you tried plugging your internet into your computer+
14:19.33Fisker?
14:19.39KalrothAdys, so it doesn't sync?
14:20.00Adysit does, im just not sure whether it syncs only chrome bookmarks or all google bookmarks
14:20.14Kalroth..
14:20.32Adystry google bookmarks' export
14:20.38Adysand after that i dunno
14:20.52Kalrothyeah, so i have to export and import all the time? no thanks :p
14:21.13Adysnot specifically
14:21.39Kalrothin firefox at work, i add a bookmark, when i get home, the link is there, automagically
14:21.43Adyswhat do you want to do specifically? feed firefox bookmarks to google chrome using google bookmarks as middle man?
14:22.02Adysthere's probably a specific extension for it
14:22.06Kalrothwhen i make a new firefox installation, i install google toolbar and all the bookmarks show up
14:22.07Adysi know the google sync is public
14:22.08Kalrothautomagically
14:22.23Adysi dunno if google toolbar is reliable for that
14:22.34Kalrothbeen using it the last 4-5 years
14:22.35Kalrothso yeah
14:22.44Adystried xmarks?
14:23.07FiskerKalroth
14:23.07Kalrothnope, but the point was kinda using google.com/bookmarks and not another service :p
14:23.10Fiskerthe issue is that yu use firefox
14:23.14Adysah
14:23.14Fiskeryou*
14:23.33Kalrothno, the issue is that googles bookmark service works in firefox and not chrome
14:23.56Fiskeri disagree
14:24.16Kalrothyou are certainly entitled to do soo!
14:24.18Adyshttp://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=77fb3b55cbb73bde&hl=en
14:24.50Kalroth..
14:24.54Adysjust browsing
14:25.26Adysyeah no
14:25.47Adysthere doesnt seem to be a chrome sync implementation for firefox
14:25.49Kalrothits an super old issue too, I've seen posts back to 2008
14:25.59Adyswell
14:26.13Kalrothand i dont care about google sync :p
14:26.14Adysto be fair, chrome sync and mozilla sync are both recent (~8 months)
14:26.29Kalrothi just want bookmarks synced, the rest is fluff
14:26.46Adysbut at least chrome's protocol is public so i would have expected an implementation for firefox
14:26.51Kalroth...
14:26.58Kalrothfirefox GOT an implementation
14:27.02Kalrothits chrome that lacks
14:27.09AdysEr, obviously not
14:27.18Kalrother, obviously
14:28.01Adysyou misunderstand how chrome sync works
14:28.03Kalrothlike I said at start; I got Google Bookmarks that works in Firefox. I can't get Google Bookmarks to work in Chrome. My issue isn't with Google Sync or whatever
14:28.10Adysgoogle bookmarks is synced with chrome sync
14:28.14Adysbut it's not a provider
14:28.17Kalrothobivously not
14:28.26KalrothI'm signed in, it doesn't sync anything
14:28.53Kalrothhttps://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/jdnejaepfmacfdmhkplckpfdcjgbeode this is what I'm talking about
14:29.08Adysyea what about it?
14:29.15Kalroth..
14:29.25Adysgoogle bookmarks as i said has nothing to do with google sync
14:29.33Adysbut, google bookmarks is a google sync *client*, not server
14:29.48KalrothI never mentioned google sync, I never asked for help on google sync, I never wanted anything from google sync
14:29.54Kalrothyou brought it up, i dont know why
14:30.09Adys[14:02:51] <Kalroth> do you use googles bookmark sync thingy
14:30.11Adys:P
14:30.27Kalrothyes, the one that Google Toolbar uses
14:30.43Adysso what's the issue?
14:30.48Adysthe extension shows an empty panel?
14:30.48Kalrothwow
14:31.01Kalrothno, the extention may or may not work
14:31.15Kalroththe issue is that I asked for one thing and you went rambling about another thing :p
14:32.13Adysi still dont know what your issue is
14:32.34KalrothBecause you're not listening, but I solved it myself!
14:32.39Adyskay!
14:32.40KalrothNow for all the other Chrome issues!
14:32.44AdysAnother happy customer.
14:34.36AdysKalroth: note that if you werent using firefox you wouldnt have this issue in the first place
14:34.37AdysCOUGH
14:34.56KalrothChrome wasn't around when I used this feature in Firefox
14:34.57KalrothCOUGH
14:35.04Kalrothstarted using*
14:35.11Adysyeah but you can export once from google bookmarks and be done with it
14:35.17Adysyou specifically want to sync between fx and chrome
14:35.20Kalrothno
14:35.28KalrothI want to sync between google.com/bookmarks and Chrome
14:35.36Adyswhy? oO
14:35.42Kalrothwhy do you think?
14:35.49Kalrothbecause my bookmarks might be there?
14:35.51Adysgoogle bookmarks is automatically updated with google-synced bookmarks
14:36.06Kalrothyou keep saying that, but it isn't :)
14:36.14Adysagain
14:36.21Adysgoogle bookmarks is a google sync *client*
14:36.43Kalrothwell why dont i see all the bookmarks in Chrome then?
14:36.47Adysbut it's not a server
14:36.51Adysmeaning
14:37.09Adysanything you upload using google sync will automatically be downloaded by google bookmarks and shown there
14:37.10AdysHOWEVER
14:37.20Adysanything you add to google bookmarks will NOT be synced
14:37.26Kalrothso it's not a sync
14:37.38Adysit is a sync, it's just not a google sync server
14:37.40Adysonly a client
14:37.45AdysGoogle Chrome is a sync Client+Server
14:37.54Kalrothso its not a sync :p
14:39.52AdysKalroth: it probably is still in development
14:39.56Adysi don't know what to tell you
14:40.06Kalrothjust say that Chrome lacks that feature? :)
14:40.06Adysthis is an issue with google bookmarks, not google sync
14:40.12Adyssighs
14:40.42Kalrothis there a way to get chrome to list search terms like in google toolbar?
14:40.51Adyssearch terms?
14:41.06Kalrothwhen i search for "man butts"
14:41.21Kalrothi get two buttons in google toolbar, where i can click either word
14:41.30Kalrothand it finds the first occurence on the current page
14:42.02Adyshm, not builtin, easy with an extension tho
14:42.03Adyslemme see
14:43.32Kalrothnope, there isnt
14:43.35Kalrothhttp://www.chromeplugins.org/google/chrome-talk/highlight-word-find-8508.html
14:43.42Kalrothwelp
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15:14.07mckenziemcslaps Fisker around a bit with..... something that's not a trout
15:14.20Fiskerwhy would you slap me with something that isn't a trout?
15:16.03Kalrothwrryyyyy
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15:42.47Cidewhy
15:42.49Cideare you trolling
15:43.00Cidealso you're failing at it
15:45.04airtonixFisker: i am love engrish
15:45.14airtonixpls
15:48.45Fiskeri am such stuff as dreams are made on
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15:59.17airtonixxda has good engrish
16:00.03airtonixfrequently i find that my eyes are bleeding while reading posts in many of the threads
16:00.31airtonixblinking doesn't seem to help
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16:00.48techno-geekDid CreateFrame() change recently? I keep passing in a string for the fourth arg (template) and it wont work, even though I have it defined in my XML
16:01.00nevcairielNo change that i'm aware of
16:01.14techno-geekare there comma gotchas that I may be overlooking?
16:01.17techno-geekthis is frustrating
16:01.22techno-geek*common
16:01.35airtonixi am frustrate
16:01.54jnwhitehtechno-geek: check your framexml.log to make sure that there are no errors with your definition
16:01.55Adysis there a need for 402 spell penetraction? or is 201 enough?
16:01.59jnwhitehand no, I don't know what you mean by 'comma gotchas'
16:02.08Adyss/c//
16:02.20mckenziemcwtf
16:02.31airtonixgets jnwhiteh in a comma
16:02.39airtonixgotcha
16:02.48jnwhitehyes. ive clearly been gotten.
16:02.49techno-geekso much for the wowuidev pastebin
16:03.07airtonixohnoesomgohnoesomg
16:03.36airtonixdun dun DUN
16:03.53jnwhitehtechno-geek: its not really difficult to use another one
16:04.05airtonixjnwhiteh: yes it is
16:04.05amrojnwhiteh: physically, yes. but emotionally...
16:04.26airtonixmy internet only goes to wowuidev pastebin website
16:05.48techno-geekhttp://pastebin.com/1KmNTGEj
16:07.26jnwhitehtechno-geek: or you could do what I asked you to.
16:07.31jnwhitehinstead of ignoring me, since its your problem.
16:07.54jnwhitehyou need to check your FrameXml.log
16:08.00jnwhitehand see if/why the template is not being loaded.
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16:10.37Fiskerif i were to be a british jerk
16:10.45Fiskerwhere would i shop online for phones? :O
16:11.04jnwhitehclove.co.uk
16:11.08jnwhitehpossibly
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16:11.27mikmaRed John!
16:12.00jnwhitehi'm so tired
16:12.02jnwhitehI need to take a nap
16:12.09mikmathen fire ze missiles
16:12.20jnwhitehlaying down under the desk, then brb.
16:12.34Fiskergives jnwhiteh a blanket
16:12.51hastesets jnwhiteh's alarm to ring after 45min
16:12.54jnwhitehty
16:13.01Fiskerdestroys haste
16:13.05mikmasets jnwhiteh's blanket on fire
16:13.16mikmaburn baby burn, disco inferno
16:14.33airtonixlawl
16:14.46airtonixJUST FIRE ZE MESSILES
16:16.55mikmahttp://mikma.eu/misc/endoftheworld.swf
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16:30.23foxlithttp://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/daily-drop/2769-Twinkies << why.
16:30.34airtonixto annoy you
16:30.52foxlitAlso, who gave LRR a high speed camera, anyway?
16:31.05airtonixshirik did
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16:42.46airtonixjust slaps
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16:49.38airtonixhi Fisker
16:50.17techno-geekI pasted this earlier, but DC'ed: http://pastebin.com/1KmNTGEj
16:50.44techno-geekDoes anyone know why I can't inherit from SolventRowTemplate in that example?
16:51.34nevcairielAre you sure the XML is loaded? No errors in framexml.log?
16:52.13techno-geekMy main frame loads
16:52.17techno-geekI will check for that file
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16:56.34techno-geeknevcairiel: I dont see anything related to what I am working on in that log
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16:57.12nevcairielAre you sure your files is getting loaded then?
16:57.38nevcairielbefore that code gets executed, too
16:58.08techno-geekah I found some lines
16:58.09techno-geekhttp://pastebin.com/GPeVtEkq
16:58.14foxlitlua> 1650*1050*3/1024^2*30
16:58.15lua_botfoxlit: 148.70166778564
16:58.33foxlitmeep :/
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16:58.51nevcairieltechno-geek: you're trying to load your font as a xml file? :P
16:59.08techno-geekI dont know why it is trying to parse the .ttf as XML
16:59.19foxlityou listed it in your toc
16:59.30nevcairielThe .toc should only have .xml and .lua files
16:59.37nevcairieleverything else does not have to be "loaded"
17:00.10techno-geekahh. let me see what happens if I remove it
17:00.29nevcairielNote that .toc changes usually require you to restart WoW completly
17:00.47techno-geekyeah I am just to be safe
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17:00.55foxlitDoes your Lua file run before or after your XML?
17:00.59LunessaDear god working on a Saturday sucks.
17:01.14nevcairielIt sure does, and i'm glad its you and not me doing it
17:01.56nevcairiel.. Even if i had to work today, its already 6pm and i would hopefully be off by now though
17:02.57LunessaCurse you time zones!  *shakes fist*
17:03.52techno-geeknevcairiel: OK same error, but no longer see anything in the log
17:04.03nevcairielpastey your .toc please
17:04.54techno-geekhttp://pastebin.com/wSLf91ar
17:05.19foxlit"foxlit: Does your Lua file run before or after your XML?"
17:05.20nevcairielNow move the line with the .xml file in front of the .lua file
17:05.51techno-geekk
17:07.54DJJeffslaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker
17:08.06DJJeffAnnother Fucking Win......
17:08.25DJJeff1) uninstall fraps 2) get latest version 3) run it
17:08.36techno-geeknevcairiel: new error now
17:08.38DJJeff4) wow crashes 5) my addon settings didnt save
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17:09.05DJJeff6) need to fucking redo my addon settings AGAIN!!!! god damn
17:09.31nevcairielwhy do you install stuff while WoW is running?
17:09.38kd3^
17:09.52DJJeffgood fucking question.... fraps should just work
17:09.53nevcairielalso, a reloadui saves settings :)
17:09.57airtonix_because all the cool kids do it
17:10.03techno-geeknevcairiel: http://pastebin.com/f68Vzn9K
17:10.09DJJeffand not crash my shit
17:10.24nevcairielLooks like you need to re-think your layout
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17:10.43nevcairielApparently your XML is referencing something in the Lua, and your Lua something in the XML
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17:10.49nevcairielBut one file needs to load first :P
17:11.05DJJeffLooks like I need to make a fucking batch file that zips up my settings every hour
17:11.20DJJeffso I can restore them if need be
17:11.28nevcairielI would suggest moving the XML Template into a seperate file
17:11.39nevcairieland loading that first
17:14.01techno-geekit acts like it is trying to call a function that I have in my lua file, but can't because the lua file isn't loaded
17:15.09zenzelezzhttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/eb2749c3-47bd-4527-85cd-1bbdf7087353.jpg
17:15.26LunessaDJJeff: If you're crashing every hour you have another, much more serious problem, and should fix that instead of fucking around with they symproms.
17:15.52JamashDJJeff: what brand video GPU accelerator card thing?
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17:16.38Fisker 
17:16.39Fisker 
17:16.45airtonix_fail
17:17.03Jamashawesome, fisker's invisible
17:17.20Fiskerno u
17:17.36airtonix_ohhh broseph
17:18.12Fiskersup airtonix_
17:18.16Fiskerumad?
17:18.41airtonix_i'm as mad as hell
17:19.00LunessaAnd you're not going to take it anymore?
17:19.42Jamashwe're not going to take it, no, we ain't gonna take it, we're not gonna take it, anymore
17:20.34DJJeffslaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker
17:20.40Jamashit's been done
17:20.45DJJeffslaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker
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17:20.57DJJeffTHIS IS WHAT I NEED!!!!
17:20.59DJJeffhttp://www.sobolsoft.com/autofolderbackup/images/ss.jpg
17:21.04DJJeffw00h00
17:21.06airtonix_no
17:21.16DJJeffnow will it .zip it for me!! that would be epic win
17:21.17Jamashwhat are you backing up?
17:21.20zenzelezzinstall WoW in your Dropbox
17:21.20nevcairielThe app looks like its from the 80s
17:21.21airtonix_i'll give you what you need
17:21.38airtonix_zenzelezz: lawl
17:21.41DJJeffmy saved variables folder
17:21.49Jamashwhy do you need to back it up?
17:21.56DJJeffmy saved variables folder
17:22.00airtonix_beause gold farmers will steal it
17:22.12airtonix_my saved variables folder
17:22.16DJJeffso I dont loose them to gay ass shit software like fraps
17:22.24airtonix_no
17:22.27airtonix_my saved variables folder
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17:22.37JamashI think you're confused, DJJeff
17:22.42DJJeffyes I am
17:22.53DJJeffI am confused why Fraps is gay
17:23.01airtonix_common side effect of taking too much ritilin
17:23.04mckenziemc1protip: reload your ui after any major change to addon setttings
17:23.16mckenziemc1as nev said
17:23.18DJJeffTechsmith Jing can do a better job then fucking Fraps
17:23.27DJJeffthat is sad
17:23.38airtonix_you copulate alot
17:23.40JamashDJJeff: Nvidia, ATI or what?
17:23.50DJJeffJING... mpeg-4 > Fraps.... avi?
17:24.08DJJeffJING 1 FRAPS 0
17:24.15mckenziemc1hehe airtonix
17:25.16airtonixI don't have to tell you things are bad.
17:26.02nevcairielIts just a screencast, the format isnt really important. Its also a question about processing power, encoding desktop resolution at 60fps can be quite intensive :p
17:26.37airtonixget a better cpu brah
17:27.51DJJeffwhat my Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93 GHz
17:27.56DJJeffisnt good enuf?
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17:28.27DJJeff4 Cores 8 Threads
17:28.45JamashDJJeff: Nvidia, ATI or what?
17:28.49DJJeff8GB of DDR3 RAM
17:29.05airtonixget a better mouse brah
17:29.14airtonix<PROTECTED>
17:29.24mckenziemc1& a user who doesn't know what he's doing :)
17:29.26DJJeffNVIDIA GeForce GT 220 1024 MBytes
17:29.31JamashDING DING DING
17:29.45airtonixWINNA WINNNA CHICKEN DINNA
17:30.07Jamashhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1965990493
17:30.30nevcairielWhat i read, JING is limited to 5 minutes of recording
17:30.33nevcairielthats like a -100
17:30.46JamashI was getting constant crashes in wow until I downgraded my nvidia drivers as referenced
17:31.20nevcairielI cannot downgrade, 260.99 doesnt support my card
17:31.26nevcairielBut i also dont have issues :)
17:31.45airtonixbecause i'm awesome
17:31.48Jamashhmm, that post I linked was stickied a few days ago, now it's locked
17:31.57JamashSUSPICIOUS
17:32.01airtonixconspiracy
17:33.35mckenziemcinteresting, i'm on 266.58 but haven't had issues
17:33.50CideShirik: hahahahaha
17:33.52Cideyou got owned!
17:34.01airtonixthoroughly
17:34.07airtonixand stuff
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17:43.47Pneumatushas anyone seen any theorycrafting anywhere detailing if/when the gnome racial becomes better than the human racial for mana regen?
17:44.06Adyshttp://satwcomic.com/your-time-is-up
17:45.22Lunessahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHosLhPEN3k
17:45.39DJJeffzip c:\path\to\savedvariables\*.* c:\TempZip-date-time.zip
17:45.45DJJeffhow do I do this in windows 7
17:45.55DJJeffusing a batch file
17:46.10airtonixlol?
17:46.12DJJeffI dont even think windows 7 comes with a zip command
17:46.25DJJefffail microsoft just fail
17:46.29airtonixno
17:46.32DJJeffI do have winrar tho
17:46.33airtonixnot this time
17:46.33AdysDJJeff: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/zip.htm
17:46.41DJJeffTY :)
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18:02.38DJJeffTAADAA.... just made a fucking profile in winrar
18:02.50DJJeffnow I double click the shit on my desktop
18:02.58DJJeffboom a backup with date and time
18:06.14DJJeffhttp://screencast.com/t/L0yybx0v
18:06.31DJJeffWinRaR I bow down to thee you make me proud
18:07.16airtonixhow provincial
18:10.06DJJeffgonna make a youtube video so other people can learn todo it :)
18:10.28foxlitLunessa: "code in C" seems like a better match
18:11.20Lunessafoxlit: I thought it was funny (especially since I went to C from FORTRAN, COBOL and BASIC)
18:11.34foxlitYeah, the song's nice.
18:12.02foxlitWrite just seems further from Let than Code.
18:14.28Lunessafoxlit: *nod*
18:17.40Fiskeryou're awesome DJJeff
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18:26.44mikmahttp://www.imdb.com/media/rm3267986432/tt0096697 .. meh
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18:33.38DJJeffam I?
18:33.39DJJeffhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrvy-IaxvwQ
18:35.02DJJeffI hate my voice :(
18:35.11DJJeffthats why I added the background music with it
18:36.21kd3doesn't everyone hate his voice?
18:36.36DJJeffI guess
18:36.36kd3can't stand hearing a recording of himself talking
18:37.07DJJeffatleast I talked during my video.... I hate when people fucking
18:37.14DJJefftype in fucking notepad
18:37.17DJJeffmaking a video
18:37.23DJJeffand crank up shitty musci
18:37.25DJJeffmusic
18:37.49FiskerDjjerski
18:37.51Fiskerhey kd3
18:37.55kd3'lo
18:38.08Fiskerwhy so selfaware?
18:38.45kd3because not being self-aware just tends to cause more problems
18:38.51karl_w_wFisker killed megaupload with a trout
18:39.16DJJeffslaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker
18:39.37Fiskertell me about it kd3
18:39.53DJJeffclose up cleavage
18:39.54DJJeffhttp://www.imdb.com/media/rm3301540864/tt0096697
18:39.58Fiskeri trashed my TV because i saw a person in the tv
18:40.32Fiskeri hate her DJJeff
18:41.15karl_w_wlike this Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R89oERKCaU
18:41.35Fiskeroh ok
18:41.49Fiskeri hate father jack even more than katy perry
18:42.28karl_w_wwhy would you hate katy perry
18:42.34Fiskerbecause she's hot
18:42.42karl_w_wmore importantly, why would you hate father jack
18:42.56Fiskerbecause even little house on the praerie is more tolerable than that show
18:43.16karl_w_wno sense of humour :(
18:43.39DJJeffI miss shows like....
18:43.41DJJeffhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKaQLYPf5hM&feature=relmfu
18:43.54Fiskerkarl_w_w
18:44.18Fiskersomeone we work with lost one of their workers because she had cancer
18:44.30DJJeffjohn cleese at his fucking best!!
18:44.37Fiskerand i said then i guess you won't mind a job application then
18:44.59DJJeff1:35 in he starts beeting himself up
18:46.22ShirikYes Adys
18:46.31Shirik#define foo(x,y,z)
18:46.31Adysto what?
18:46.44Fiskerhey Shirik
18:46.52AdysShirik: yeah but that still leaves the call in the code, no?
18:47.02ShirikNo?
18:47.12CideShirik: hahahahaha
18:47.14Cideyou got owned!
18:47.20ShirikThe only thing you have an issue with is if you have if/while blocks without braces
18:47.24Shirikin which case you should use
18:47.30Shirik#define foo(x,y,z) do { } while (0)
18:47.32Fiskerhey Shirik ?
18:47.46ShirikCide: At what
18:47.51Shirikhey Fisker
18:47.52Fiskerhey Shirik :(
18:47.53Fiskeryay!
18:47.57CideBody and Soul no longer reduces the mana cost of Power Word: Shield (the hotfix made on February 16 to provide this additional benefit has been reverted).
18:47.59Alramfisker goddamnit
18:48.19Shiriklol.
18:48.23ShirikBut that's not why I got it anyway
18:48.28Cidegood
18:48.31Cidedo you like it?
18:48.41ShirikI still don't see it having good use outside that one fight
18:48.47Shirikwhich is why my secondary spec is now also holy
18:49.18Cideatramedes?
18:49.42Shirikyes
18:50.42Cideuseful on atramedes, omnitron, conclave of wind (but that's trivial regardless), al'akir, 2 dragons, cho'gall, ascendant council
18:52.35Cideatramedes is obvious, omnitron slimes (meh)/flamethrower (meh)/heroic stuff (yay), al'akir for running away from things (yay), 2 dragons for getting away from breath (yay), cho'gall for fearing (yay), ascendant council for getting to tornados/vacuum/lightning rod (yay!)
18:53.18Cideit's mostly the little things
18:53.40Shirikomnitron?
18:53.50Shirikyou're kidding right?
18:53.53Cide?
18:54.03Cideit doesn't hurt
18:54.09ShirikThere are other talents to pick up!
18:54.09Cideand there's more movement involved on heroic
18:54.17Cidelike surge of lol?
18:54.24ShirikI have surge of lol anyway
18:54.30Cidewhat did you drop
18:54.33Cideserendipity?
18:54.53Cidedarkness?
18:55.08Shirikhttp://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/icecrown/kiminari/talent/secondary
18:55.40Cidegood compromise
18:56.20Cidethough you'd rather pick SoL over 2% healing?
18:56.23Cidethat seems strange
18:56.33ShirikI'm pretty sure I had to
18:56.43Cidehow so?
18:56.50Shirikyeah I only have 31 points in holy
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18:56.58Cideoh wtf you didn't pick SoR
18:57.01Cidethat's a weird spec
18:57.10ShirikSoR is useless
18:57.16Cidenot really
18:57.19Shirikever since they dropped the spirit boost
18:57.38CideI'm not sold on it
18:57.46Cidebut 1% haste over sor?
18:57.56ShirikI need to hit 12.5%
18:58.00Cidegetting capped is trivial with 2/3
18:58.10Shirikthat means I would have to reduce my mastery
18:58.20Cideyep
18:58.24Shirikunacceptable
18:58.32Cidebut by how much mastery
18:58.38Shirikmore than 1 point
18:58.56Cide1 point is how much extra healing?
18:59.01CideI'm on my dk so can't check
18:59.43Jamashdisc is superior
18:59.48Cideha.
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19:01.59Shirikbanishes Jamash
19:02.33Jamashis immune to cc
19:03.29foxlitBut not to being banished from Shattrath
19:04.26Jamashisn't in Shattrath
19:06.43Cidenot anymore you aren't
19:07.34Fiskerwrong foxlit
19:07.40Fiskerunless they actually fixed it :(
19:07.44Jamashnot after the troll paladin incident
19:08.07Fiskeri banked my troll thingymagick a long time ago Jamash
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19:21.59karl_w_wa lot of people drop sor
19:22.17karl_w_wit's almost a niche arena talent now
19:27.24Fiskersor?
19:27.38Cidepeople go holy for arenas since when?
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19:28.33Jamashit's a silly idea for a talent in the first place
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19:35.46DagmarCide: He is a master of the element of surprise!
19:35.53DagmarNo one would ever expect him to go holy
19:37.26karl_w_wcide: they dont, which is why people dont use sor :P
19:46.05Fiskerkarl_w_w
19:50.10Shiriktroll paladin... incident?
19:50.47techno-geeknevcairiel: I got that working. Thanks for your help earlier. I appreciate it
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19:53.07Shirik...........
19:53.10Shirikmy electric company is so fail
19:54.24FiskerShirik
19:54.29Fiskerbuy a motorola atrix 4g
19:54.32Fiskerthen send it to me
19:54.38Fiskerin return i will follow your laws
19:54.52Shirikhttp://images.gammatester.com/pics/bc0224db35c8c426ac7a3d255b585627.png
19:55.14Fiskerlol'd irl
19:55.21nevcairiellol
19:55.44Fiskeralso i disagree
19:56.02Fiskerphpsessid is very power conservative
19:57.51Fiskerwhy won't bulletstorms appear quicker nevcairiel ?
20:04.27kd3lol
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20:31.02KalrothFisker, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPceMKYUxRI
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21:05.15JamashShirik: It involved a Naaru, The Rokk, a prospective troll paladin and a cauldron of boiling water
21:06.30JamashShirik: I'm prohibited from saying anything more by the terms of the settlement
21:08.05Fiskersounds hot
21:11.50amroJamash: should I ask?
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22:41.26Fiskerhaste is norwegian
22:42.38jnwhitehShirik: that is awesome :P
22:44.00hasteI dun get it Fisker !
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23:00.28mckenziemc1Shirik: where is that picture from
23:00.46Shirikfrom me logging into my power company's site
23:01.25mckenziemc1how'd they get a breakdown of usage by device?
23:02.18jnwhitehwebcams.
23:02.50mckenziemcit would be cool if i could get something like that for my own house but i assume it must require special monitoring equipment
23:04.01jnwhitehyeah same, I'd like to see my breakdown
23:04.08jnwhitehso I know what to be more conservative with
23:05.04Fiskeri'm just gonna hey jnwhiteh
23:05.18mckenziemcwut
23:05.19jnwhitehi'm just gonna hoe Fisker
23:05.58Fisker:(
23:06.40Fiskeroh well jnwhiteh
23:06.42Fiskermotorola are jerks
23:06.52Fiskerguess i have to wait for SGS2 or Nexus 3 then
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23:23.12Shirikapparently I can get free CFLs from my power company...
23:23.19ShirikI wish they told me that before I bought them
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23:47.55foxlitI'm surprised how good the reitemized 60 raid gear is
23:49.47kd3?
23:49.52kd3tabs open the wiki, curious
23:51.25foxlitQuesting in Howling Fjord, and I'm going "meh, is that +1 Int an upgrade for me?"
23:52.18Derabohow can I 'resize' the clickable area of a checkBox in lua? I can click like a few hundred pixels right to my checkbox and it still reacts
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23:52.41foxlit:SetWidth
23:52.56Derabodoesnt this change the visable width?
23:53.12foxlitThe checkboxes are a lie, anyway
23:53.17Derabo^^
23:53.58foxlitIt really depends on what you're inheriting from to get a checkbox
23:54.02foxlitBut ordinarily, no, it would not
23:54.17Derabo"ChatConfigCheckButtonTemplate"
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23:54.25foxlitThe checkbox widget itself has no graphical elements
23:54.28Deraboand yes. :SetWidth changes the visual size
23:54.39foxlitThe checkbox and the associated check mark are all faked through templates.
23:55.02Deraboso is there a way to make the check mark smaller?
23:55.34foxlitIt's just a texture
23:55.43foxlithttp://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/go/ChatConfigCheckButtonTemplate
23:56.06foxlitAh.
23:56.19foxlitYou're looking for :SetHitRectInsets()
23:57.40DeraboI'll give it a try. thank you
23:57.43foxlitI wonder if they changed that since I last looked; I though they were messing with width and applying checked/box through textures. Perhaps that was a different template.
23:59.32Deraboyes that works. thank you very much!

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