| 00:00.39 | amro | yt comments shouldn't exist |
| 00:00.58 | airtonix | an addiction of yours ? |
| 00:01.10 | airtonix | hating your addiction is no way to quit |
| 00:03.11 | mckenziemc | hmm maybe _that's_ why i can't get rid of you |
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| 00:09.25 | Nobgul | lol |
| 00:09.40 | Kraps | mmm leather http://www.empireonline.com/images/image_index/original/48459.jpg |
| 00:10.05 | Nobgul | wtf is that |
| 00:10.43 | Kraps | leather |
| 00:11.00 | airtonix | for strapping you down |
| 00:13.46 | Nobgul | now i must ask the question Kraps, did you watch the newest harry potter? |
| 00:14.01 | Kraps | no, its not on dvd yet |
| 00:14.33 | Nobgul | are you going to watch it or wait for the 2nd part? |
| 00:14.44 | bluspacecow | personally nobby |
| 00:14.51 | bluspacecow | imma wait till the 2nd part |
| 00:14.52 | airtonix | you wouldn't steal a car Nobgul |
| 00:14.55 | Nobgul | So am . |
| 00:15.09 | bluspacecow | no he wouldn't |
| 00:15.26 | Nobgul | umm |
| 00:15.27 | Nobgul | I have |
| 00:15.33 | Nobgul | And got in trouble so no |
| 00:16.12 | amro | microsoft got rid of dll hell |
| 00:16.16 | amro | by replacing it with manifest hell |
| 00:16.18 | amro | gg |
| 00:16.22 | sylvanaar | do you guys have any thoughts about common Lua coding errors, i.e. are there any that come to mind |
| 00:16.42 | Nobgul | common errors. |
| 00:16.49 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 00:16.50 | Nobgul | Forgetting a end |
| 00:16.53 | Cide | brackets for blocks |
| 00:16.56 | Nobgul | or multi ends |
| 00:17.03 | sylvanaar | i mean non-syntax errors |
| 00:17.09 | Nobgul | Having uncalled functions |
| 00:17.19 | foxlit | notanobject:function() |
| 00:17.19 | Nobgul | if that makes sense |
| 00:17.24 | foxlit | object.function("stuff") |
| 00:17.31 | bluspacecow | forgetting to save |
| 00:17.31 | amro | it's not really an error Nobgul |
| 00:17.32 | Cide | foo.variable instead of foo[variable] |
| 00:17.35 | bluspacecow | and forgetting to exit wow first |
| 00:17.41 | mckenziemc | you mean antipatterns? |
| 00:17.45 | Nobgul | Well not so much a error your right, but a common mistake. |
| 00:17.55 | amro | he's looking for errors detectable in an IDE |
| 00:18.03 | Cide | foo.variable instead of foo[variable] |
| 00:18.04 | sylvanaar | well, i am looking for some that can be discovered through static analysis |
| 00:18.22 | bluspacecow | oooo |
| 00:18.23 | Nobgul | err setting a local and not using it.. i dunno |
| 00:18.32 | foxlit | sylvanaar: provide an example in another language. |
| 00:18.42 | sylvanaar | here's an example in lua: |
| 00:18.54 | sylvanaar | a, b, c, d, = 1, 2 |
| 00:19.07 | foxlit | The extra comma is a syntax error. |
| 00:19.16 | sylvanaar | a, b, c, d = 1, 2 |
| 00:19.27 | sylvanaar | thats a probable coding mistake |
| 00:19.34 | Cide | why do you hate my suggestion |
| 00:19.35 | foxlit | Hey, I use that feature. |
| 00:19.37 | mckenziemc | typos! |
| 00:19.48 | Nobgul | I am the king of typos! |
| 00:19.53 | sylvanaar | i like your suggest Cide, but I dont know if its possible to detect it |
| 00:20.10 | Cide | foo.<x> where <x> is a variable in the current scope? |
| 00:20.20 | amro | what if the table also has a field of that name? |
| 00:20.32 | Cide | it's a probable mistake, not a fool proof mistake |
| 00:20.34 | amro | I have plenty of t.x =x |
| 00:20.36 | foxlit | local x = 1; v.x |
| 00:20.43 | foxlit | amro: ! |
| 00:21.13 | amro | especially in setters with side effects |
| 00:21.26 | Cide | yes I am fully aware that it's reasonable |
| 00:21.35 | sylvanaar | Cide: as long as it is limited to local variables its doable, but if you consider globals it becomes unwieldy |
| 00:21.40 | amro | I just don't think t.x instead of t[x] happens often enough |
| 00:21.42 | Cide | (01:19:27) sylvanaar: thats a probable coding mistake |
| 00:22.13 | Cide | for people new to the language it might |
| 00:22.14 | Nobgul-Raiding | bbl |
| 00:22.52 | sylvanaar | i only have a few right now, and i am looking to expand the list. I have "global self usage", "unbalanced assignment", "divide by zero" |
| 00:23.41 | mckenziemc | sylvanaar: registerACallback(o.someFunc); function o.someFunc() end |
| 00:23.41 | Cide | I would like you to bitch at people who use numerical operations on strings |
| 00:23.49 | mckenziemc | where o.someFunc was nil initially |
| 00:23.58 | foxlit | sylvanaar: local a,b,c = ("foo"):match("(f)(o)(o)") ? |
| 00:24.26 | Cide | local a = 1, 2, 3 is more likely |
| 00:24.41 | Cide | to be a mistake |
| 00:24.58 | sylvanaar | hrm, thats true, and I dont flag that one |
| 00:25.40 | sylvanaar | i only flag #lvalues > #rvalues |
| 00:26.27 | sylvanaar | I could change it to say "too many/few initializers" |
| 00:27.20 | mckenziemc | sylvanaar: did you make sure "#lvalues > #rvalues" doesn't apply when the last rvalue is a function call? |
| 00:27.32 | foxlit | sylvanaar: I still take offense to your entire idea |
| 00:27.33 | sylvanaar | is it the last one? |
| 00:27.38 | foxlit | lvalues > rvalues is perfectly valid. |
| 00:27.47 | sylvanaar | it is |
| 00:27.51 | mckenziemc | local a, b, c = 1, someFunc() |
| 00:28.07 | mckenziemc | it is, but might cause false positives :p |
| 00:28.11 | sylvanaar | i thought it was the first function, i'd better check |
| 00:29.11 | sylvanaar | lol, looks like it coded it correctly |
| 00:29.50 | sylvanaar | so it doesnt flag anything with a function as the last rvalue |
| 00:29.59 | airtonix | hey sylvanaar |
| 00:30.13 | airtonix | python plugin for notepad pls |
| 00:30.17 | airtonix | go |
| 00:30.44 | sylvanaar | this lua plugin is keepin me busy, and its so much fun to write |
| 00:31.31 | sylvanaar | here's the unbalanced assignment example http://screencast.com/t/87hXGJRjp2 |
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| 00:33.55 | airtonix | star trek sucks |
| 00:34.05 | sylvanaar | are you watching the marathon |
| 00:34.25 | airtonix | it's like days of our lives in space |
| 00:34.46 | airtonix | instead of warble warble warble, shopping mall |
| 00:35.04 | airtonix | it's warble warble calibrating, warble phasers to maximum, warble |
| 00:35.58 | sylvanaar | you lost me at warble |
| 00:36.08 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 00:36.09 | airtonix | waffle waffle waffle |
| 00:37.42 | mckenziemc | ^ rebus representing my hunter's pet's name O.o |
| 00:38.16 | mckenziemc | (random thought of the day) |
| 00:39.03 | airtonix | yesr Cptn WaffleHead |
| 00:40.05 | mckenziemc | sics Waffles on airtonix. |
| 00:41.49 | mckenziemc | i have a plainstrider named Eggnog too >.> |
| 00:43.34 | airtonix | i care not for an inventory of your pantry |
| 00:47.37 | sylvanaar | how about a[0]? |
| 00:47.49 | sylvanaar | as a possible error |
| 00:48.39 | bluspacecow | add an L and you have a populor online provider of drink coasters |
| 00:49.06 | airtonix | really!!!!???!?!?! |
| 00:49.16 | Kraps | grammys tonight |
| 00:49.19 | bluspacecow | a[0]l |
| 00:49.22 | bluspacecow | AOL |
| 00:49.29 | airtonix | -_- |
| 00:49.52 | bluspacecow | airtonix thinks my joke is lame |
| 00:53.05 | airtonix | startrek is worse |
| 00:53.14 | Aurorus | I think airtonix got sand in their eyes |
| 00:53.24 | Aurorus | your joke is fine :P |
| 00:53.52 | airtonix | yes mama |
| 00:58.10 | Kraps | lol @ katy perrys wings or w/e |
| 00:59.27 | amro | kraps needs a new pastime |
| 00:59.57 | Kraps | amro: real news sucks, gaming and celebs ftw |
| 01:02.24 | Thunder_Child | gaming ok, celebs? no |
| 01:02.25 | Thunder_Child | hell no |
| 01:02.35 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.41 | Kraps | its fun |
| 01:02.47 | Thunder_Child | i can walk down the street, throw 3 stones and hit 4 celebs |
| 01:02.52 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 01:02.53 | Thunder_Child | ! |
| 01:04.14 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: i dont mean youtube celebs :p |
| 01:04.27 | Thunder_Child | no kidding Kraps |
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| 01:09.59 | Cide | hm, I forget |
| 01:10.31 | Cide | is the return from GetCursorPosition() affected by scale, or are the returns of Frame:GetLeft() etc? |
| 01:11.33 | mckenziemc | sylvanaar: and accordingly, a[#a] |
| 01:11.43 | mckenziemc | actually nvm |
| 01:11.45 | Nobgul-Raiding | Cide, its scale indipendant |
| 01:11.51 | mckenziemc | guess that could be valid often enough |
| 01:12.09 | sylvanaar | yeah, 1 based |
| 01:12.23 | Cide | Nobgul-Raiding: which is |
| 01:13.09 | Adys | Nobgul-Raiding: ping |
| 01:13.18 | mckenziemc | sylvanaar: yeah, but i was referring to user's expecting that to be the first empty spot, rather than the end of the existing 'array' :( |
| 01:13.23 | mckenziemc | users* |
| 01:16.32 | sylvanaar | so, a[#a] = (some non-nil value) |
| 01:17.31 | sylvanaar | would say "overwriting last element, did you mean a[#a+1]?" |
| 01:17.43 | sylvanaar | thats a good one |
| 01:19.47 | foxlit | Cide: something is |
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| 01:20.09 | Cide | foxlit: what |
| 01:20.20 | Cide | oh, you were interpreting Nobgul-Raiding |
| 01:20.22 | Cide | yeah, I got that far too |
| 01:20.23 | amro | Shirik: save me |
| 01:20.34 | foxlit | "Cide: is the return from GetCursorPosition() affected by scale, or are the returns of Frame:GetLeft() etc?" |
| 01:21.50 | foxlit | Cide: http://pastey.net/146096 |
| 01:22.24 | Kraps | "thanks justin beiber for not being a duo or a group" lal |
| 01:22.45 | amro | he won something? |
| 01:22.53 | mckenziemc | sylvanaar: yeah. Also, you have or plan to add a way for users to disable specific warnings if they want, right? |
| 01:23.04 | sylvanaar | yeah, they already can |
| 01:23.14 | Cide | foxlit: why do you use GetParent():GetEffectiveScale() as opposed to just GetEffectiveScale() |
| 01:23.44 | Kraps | Kraps: not yet, that was a comment by maroon 5 after winning "best duo or group" |
| 01:24.12 | Kraps | err |
| 01:24.16 | foxlit | Cide: probably because the thing I'm calling GetParent on is a texture rather than a frame |
| 01:24.17 | Kraps | amro: ^ |
| 01:24.19 | mckenziemc | i suppose i should just install it instead of asking all this stuff i could easily check >.> |
| 01:24.21 | Cide | ah |
| 01:24.27 | Cide | foxlit: thanks |
| 01:24.42 | amro | amro: I hope he doesn't win anything |
| 01:24.44 | amro | Kraps: ^ |
| 01:24.55 | Kraps | heh amro |
| 01:25.07 | mckenziemc | is a direct download available for the head revision, or do i need to figure out how to export it via get |
| 01:25.11 | mckenziemc | git* |
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| 01:31.55 | Nobgul-Raiding | Sorry cide, It should be indipendant for each frame. |
| 01:32.09 | Silversage | LF tooltip modifying expert. My addon tries to addon information to most of the game's tooltips. I've hooked GameTooltip:Set* and called :AddDoubleLine and it works just fine, even though the method seems to be called a ton. And I've hooked ShoppingTooltip[1-2]:SetHyperlinkCompareItem and it works, too. But when I hook ItemRefTooltip:SetHyperlink, it dies and puts scads of copies of the lines I'm adding on the tooltip. |
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| 01:34.24 | Silversage | Now tekkub shows up. Right after the long question... |
| 01:34.34 | tekkub | no |
| 01:34.46 | mckenziemc | :o |
| 01:35.03 | Silversage | The question was: "Is there any way I can convince you not to send me all your gold?" |
| 01:37.32 | sylvanaar | oh hey tekkub, you have any thoughts on common lua coding errors |
| 01:39.09 | airtonix | this is not an argument |
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| 01:53.18 | Xinhuan | Silversage, your first step is to figure out why your hook is being called multiple times |
| 01:53.50 | Silversage | Xinhuan: Yes, that's an equivalent form of my question. |
| 01:53.51 | Xinhuan | you can purposely call error() in your hook to produce a stack trace |
| 01:54.10 | Silversage | I'm being directly called by Blizz' callback. |
| 01:54.11 | foxlit | Something less violent might be better |
| 01:54.29 | Xinhuan | then you need to figure out if blizz is really calling it multiple times |
| 01:54.49 | Xinhuan | is it via an OnUpdate that updates the tooltip "X seconds cooldown"? |
| 01:55.24 | Xinhuan | generally most of blizz's tooltips do this, usually throttled to once per 0.2 seconds |
| 01:56.16 | Xinhuan | the stack trace will show its called by blizz's callback, but you want the trace of the events that lead to the callback |
| 01:56.25 | Xinhuan | it should be there too |
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| 02:15.14 | Silversage | Xinhuan: Sorry to break off. Called to a raid. |
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| 02:43.19 | kd3 | ah, the joys of open enrollment season |
| 02:50.26 | Corrodias | ah yes |
| 02:50.36 | airtonix | calibrating |
| 02:51.00 | Corrodias | i like to take my .308 into a tree stand for enrollment hunting. the enrollments don't see you so easily. |
| 02:51.39 | airtonix | this channel is logged and spidered by google |
| 02:52.04 | Corrodias | can i get a gift for saying Bing sucks? |
| 02:52.19 | airtonix | you just provided Asif Jihad an a scapegoat |
| 02:52.39 | Corrodias | phh. Asif, as if. |
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| 02:57.39 | alestane | If two processes are communicating on a pipe in a POSIX environment, how secure is that communication from other processes? |
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| 03:00.42 | mckenziemc | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/936f57cd4ef4b7e625e0d6ec1d922bfe.jpg O.o |
| 03:01.06 | mckenziemc | (sorry about the crappy cropping, apparently i have a folder permissions issue |
| 03:01.06 | kd3 | ah, the joys of a horde raid on sw |
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| 03:01.53 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/#!5759348/the-newest-world-of-warcraft-statues-include-an-amazing-headless-horseman |
| 03:02.49 | kd3 | now, I'd click, but that'd mean I'd have to turn on javascript |
| 03:02.51 | kd3 | pass |
| 03:04.50 | karl_w_w | scary javascript? |
| 03:05.44 | airtonix | site doesn't work properly |
| 03:05.47 | Kraps | wimp |
| 03:05.51 | airtonix | faggot |
| 03:06.41 | Kraps | wow, escalation |
| 03:06.42 | amro | http://entanglement.gopherwoodstudios.com/ <- kd3 can't play this. |
| 03:06.51 | amro | escalation? |
| 03:07.15 | Kraps | airtonix |
| 03:07.25 | mckenziemc | Kraps |
| 03:07.33 | Kraps | no |
| 03:07.41 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 03:07.48 | Wobin | entanglement is quite fun |
| 03:09.13 | bluspacecow | *giggles* |
| 03:09.28 | bluspacecow | forgot to turn on load out of date addons after 4.0.6a hit |
| 03:09.54 | Kraps | hey crytek, umad? |
| 03:10.32 | mckenziemc | ~umad |
| 03:10.32 | purl | ACTION primes a weapon of Universal Mutual Assured Destruction. |
| 03:12.53 | mckenziemc | ~no, umad is <action> primes a weapon of Unreasonable Mutual Assured Destruction. |
| 03:13.07 | Kraps | seth rogan takes a shot at miley cyrus |
| 03:13.16 | mckenziemc | purl, no, umad is <action> primes a weapon of Unreasonable Mutual Assured Destruction. |
| 03:13.17 | purl | mckenziemc: okay |
| 03:14.23 | airtonix | Mutally* |
| 03:14.31 | airtonix | as in |
| 03:14.36 | airtonix | your face is |
| 03:14.46 | mckenziemc | no airtonix |
| 03:14.51 | airtonix | mutant |
| 03:14.54 | mckenziemc | the destruction is mutual, not the assurance |
| 03:15.02 | mckenziemc | oh woops, misread >.> |
| 03:15.03 | airtonix | then it's Mutually |
| 03:15.39 | airtonix | which would come after a comma |
| 03:16.00 | mckenziemc | no, that's what i just said it _wasn't_ :p |
| 03:16.08 | airtonix | no |
| 03:16.36 | mckenziemc | technically it can be either but i think the former makes more sense |
| 03:16.37 | airtonix | It's either : Unreasonble Assurance of Mutual Destruction |
| 03:16.52 | mckenziemc | "Unreasonable, Mutual, Assured Destruction" |
| 03:17.01 | airtonix | no |
| 03:17.38 | airtonix | that's a statement dictacted without any counterpart in the scenario |
| 03:17.49 | airtonix | like a meglomaniac does |
| 03:18.07 | airtonix | so you need to have "Muwhahaha!" on the end |
| 03:18.11 | Kraps | http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2011/02/13/next-starcraft-ii-quot-very-unlikely-quot-to-release-in-2011.aspx |
| 03:19.49 | mckenziemc | quots Kraps. |
| 03:21.12 | airtonix | quotes* |
| 03:21.32 | airtonix | mckenziemc: i am your gestapo |
| 03:21.52 | mckenziemc | no airtonix, it says 'quot' |
| 03:22.09 | airtonix | i will destroy you |
| 03:22.14 | Kraps | justin beiber doesnt win best new artist |
| 03:22.23 | airtonix | ohnoes |
| 03:23.08 | mckenziemc | i will have Fisker destroy you before you get a chance to destroy me |
| 03:23.12 | amro | yes Kraps |
| 03:25.54 | Kraps | @feliciaday "Hate awards shows, but can't turn off Grammys Live stream on YouTube" |
| 03:27.25 | mckenziemc | @describe enable-tourettes |
| 03:27.26 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/enable-tourettes/. Tourettes. Enable Tourettes Categorized messages that you can use to randomly (maybe a option to be less random) send messages to player... |
| 03:27.28 | mckenziemc | O.o |
| 03:30.31 | Kraps | amro: twitter is angry and racist |
| 03:31.45 | Kraps | theres even #proudofjustin |
| 03:31.56 | Kraps | rages at the universe |
| 03:32.44 | Cide | who is drash83? |
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| 03:35.07 | karl_w_w | I'm drash83 |
| 03:35.23 | airtonix | no i'm drash83 |
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| 03:36.44 | amro | Kraps: the amount of people with bieber avatars >< |
| 03:36.48 | karl_w_w | at least my first addon did something useful |
| 03:37.00 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 03:37.04 | Kraps | amro: names too |
| 03:37.37 | amro | Where is Kanye when you need him? #proudofjustin |
| 03:37.39 | amro | lololol |
| 03:37.44 | Kraps | saw that |
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| 03:39.03 | mckenziemc1 | i know worgen and trolls have unique art for their swift forms now, but which skins do their slow versions use? |
| 03:39.31 | Corrodias | they use your mother |
| 03:40.02 | mckenziemc | dang, my fears were valid |
| 03:41.39 | mckenziemc | heh, teh spell cast by one of the draenei rare artifacts (the one that teleports you) is called 'Teleport with Error' |
| 03:41.53 | Kraps | amg all the tweens using the f-word, tut tut |
| 03:42.18 | mckenziemc | well that's interesting. It teleported me right in front of a rare O.o |
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| 03:52.41 | Kraps | eminem wind best rap album |
| 03:53.17 | amro | eminem is still around? |
| 03:54.10 | Kraps | oh yeah |
| 03:54.34 | Yith | I'm losing myself as we speak |
| 03:54.34 | Kraps | you didnt see the 2 superbowl ads with him? |
| 03:59.20 | Arrowmaster | i didnt see any superbowl ads |
| 04:00.21 | bluspacecow | anyone still @ work here ? |
| 04:00.55 | Thunder_Child | i'm sure someone is |
| 04:01.00 | amro | are you about to link something so NSFW that it requires special protocol? |
| 04:01.35 | Thunder_Child | that would be ool |
| 04:02.05 | Thunder_Child | s/ool/cool/ |
| 04:02.09 | Jerub | mckenziemc: nice! |
| 04:02.17 | Jerub | i got putridus the ancient the other day while doing archology |
| 04:02.34 | mckenziemc | it was just an old-world rare though :( |
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| 04:03.15 | Jerub | mckenziemc: one of the places that puts you is on the outmost limb of a tree directly above a pool of water |
| 04:03.18 | Jerub | it's a long drop |
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| 04:04.58 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 04:05.02 | mckenziemc | in which zone? |
| 04:05.08 | Jerub | um, STV or something i think |
| 04:05.36 | Jerub | mckenziemc: i use teleport with error when i'm done doing arch in one area and want to get closer than 10,000 distance units to the next zone |
| 04:05.58 | Jerub | mckenziemc: fortunately, i also have the argent crusade tabard and a hasty hearth in case it puts me somewhere crap |
| 04:06.19 | mckenziemc | lol yeah |
| 04:06.31 | mckenziemc | this character is my mage so i have ports :) |
| 04:06.36 | Jerub | ah cool |
| 04:06.43 | Jerub | i'm doing it on my druid first, i'm going for professor |
| 04:06.54 | bluspacecow | i too |
| 04:08.49 | Jerub | i'm on 17/20 rares, currently wroking on clockwork gnome |
| 04:08.53 | Kraps | lol? http://twitter.com/#!/Brittanystarrj/status/36998660910751744 |
| 04:09.04 | Jerub | and then after that i'm torn between going for another dwarf rare, the second nerubian rare, or tol'vir |
| 04:10.17 | Invinciblor | Hey, looking for a pointer. I'm trying to get SetFont("font",size[,"flags"]) working but not sure how to figure out which fonts are built in. "path to the font file, relative to the WoW base directory" and "Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF" suggest they're embedded in data files. How can I find them? I tried grabbing a different TTF font and throwing it in my addon folder, but the client didn't seem to be able to find it. |
| 04:10.24 | karl_w_w | i wish i knew why my global shortcuts sometimes dont work |
| 04:10.40 | bluspacecow | *polymorphs into pointer dog* |
| 04:10.43 | bluspacecow | *points* |
| 04:10.59 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 04:11.06 | Invinciblor | *can't see which way the dog is pointing* |
| 04:11.09 | Invinciblor | *cries* |
| 04:11.09 | Thunder_Child | bad puns are bad bluspacecow |
| 04:12.23 | Jerub | wtf |
| 04:12.29 | Jerub | is it normal for wowhead to cause popups? |
| 04:12.41 | Jerub | for www.casino.com? |
| 04:12.57 | karl_w_w | no? |
| 04:13.00 | Invinciblor | Never seen it here. Using Firefox 3 with ABP |
| 04:13.05 | Adys | Jerub: zam websites have been causing popups for almost two years. |
| 04:13.13 | Adys | in europe anyway |
| 04:13.19 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: yes, Bibi needs to support his babies momma |
| 04:13.33 | Jerub | Adys: zam? |
| 04:13.55 | Adys | Invinciblor: i really dont think "lol i dont see the popups because i have adblock" is constructive |
| 04:14.01 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: http://www.zam.com/ |
| 04:14.07 | Thunder_Child | they own a ton of sites |
| 04:14.10 | Thunder_Child | mostly MMO |
| 04:14.32 | karl_w_w | i dont see any ads on wowhead |
| 04:14.35 | karl_w_w | and i dont know why |
| 04:14.41 | karl_w_w | i dont have ad block or anything |
| 04:14.42 | Adys | premium? |
| 04:14.45 | karl_w_w | nop |
| 04:14.48 | Invinciblor | way to read me with the wrong tone there, Adys. |
| 04:15.07 | Trela | Thunder_Child: Bibi/MMO-C is run/owned by Curse. :P |
| 04:15.14 | Adys | Invinciblor: no tone to read, if you have adblock your opinion is truly worthless on whether you're seeing popups or not |
| 04:15.30 | Adys | unless you happen to be testing adblock. |
| 04:15.40 | airtonix | lawl |
| 04:15.52 | Invinciblor | I do get popups on other websites, but not from Wowhead. I'm not sure whether they don't have popups at Wowheada or I'm just not getting them. It may be helpful to try FF/ABP if you are using something else? |
| 04:16.07 | airtonix | i'm using awesome |
| 04:16.08 | Adys | shakes his head |
| 04:16.17 | Thunder_Child | Trela: i didnt say they werent |
| 04:16.27 | Trela | shakes Adys' head... wait. |
| 04:16.36 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 04:16.59 | Jerub | there's three kinds of sites on the net, those who are nice, those who you tolerate, and those who use stupid popups |
| 04:17.04 | Jerub | i didn't realise wowhead was in the third category |
| 04:17.21 | airtonix | Jerub: help me with my care face |
| 04:17.48 | karl_w_w | so every site with popups is neither nice nor tolerable? |
| 04:18.05 | mckenziemc | 'stupid popups' |
| 04:18.06 | Jerub | karl_w_w: yep. |
| 04:18.08 | Adys | karl_w_w: i's rare. |
| 04:18.13 | Adys | it's rare, even |
| 04:18.17 | Kraps | amro: did you know that twitter had to modify their algorithm to make other stuff trend because beiber fans just wont shut up? |
| 04:18.19 | karl_w_w | yes you is rare Adys :P |
| 04:18.24 | airtonix | no |
| 04:18.28 | amro | Kraps: rofl no I didn't |
| 04:18.30 | amro | that was fast |
| 04:18.32 | airtonix | Adys is in purple text |
| 04:18.42 | mckenziemc | i prefer my Adys medium-rare |
| 04:18.42 | Kraps | amro: no not for now |
| 04:18.42 | Adys | i'm blue |
| 04:18.46 | airtonix | no |
| 04:18.46 | Adys | dabbadi dabbada |
| 04:18.53 | Kraps | amro: since forever |
| 04:20.11 | karl_w_w | the worst sites are the ones that launch a popup on any click |
| 04:20.24 | karl_w_w | so you click in a search box and start typing |
| 04:20.37 | karl_w_w | then look up at the screen and you've been typing at an ad |
| 04:21.35 | Adys | er |
| 04:21.38 | Adys | wowhead ads are like that |
| 04:21.48 | Adys | not all the time, but most of their popups are |
| 04:22.16 | karl_w_w | ive never seen a popup on wowhead |
| 04:23.11 | Adys | as i mentioned, the us/au popups have been gone for a while |
| 04:23.16 | Adys | but the EU ones no |
| 04:23.43 | karl_w_w | oh maybe my hosts file is blocking them |
| 04:24.25 | karl_w_w | nope |
| 04:24.40 | Adys | as i mentioned, the us/au popups have been gone for a while. only the eu ones are still there. |
| 04:24.57 | karl_w_w | that doesnt explain why i see no ads at all |
| 04:24.59 | Ackis | I just googled bot fly :( |
| 04:25.19 | Adys | karl_w_w: that could just be broken ad servers |
| 04:25.19 | Kraps | arcade fire won album of the year, everyone is all "wtf" |
| 04:25.35 | karl_w_w | it's been like this for a long time now :P |
| 04:25.41 | karl_w_w | like a year plus |
| 04:26.21 | Jerub | i'm .au |
| 04:26.34 | Adys | Jerub: are you sure? |
| 04:26.36 | Jerub | it took me to casino.com/au/ |
| 04:26.39 | Adys | you're surprisingly normal |
| 04:26.52 | Jerub | Adys: Wobin can't be taken to represent our entire culture |
| 04:27.19 | amro | ~emulate bleeter |
| 04:27.19 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 04:27.24 | amro | Jerub: ^ |
| 04:27.53 | Jerub | amro: that's insane. |
| 04:28.04 | Jerub | <blink> is inline, <h1> is block. they should be swapped around. |
| 04:28.09 | Thunder_Child | thats bleeter |
| 04:30.43 | Wobin | Jerub is considered abnormal |
| 04:30.53 | Wobin | it's the calming drugs he takes |
| 04:31.26 | karl_w_w | if you're australian abnormal is just the starting point :P |
| 04:31.30 | Jerub | i am on no medication |
| 04:31.42 | Wobin | (That's what he gets told to say) |
| 04:31.48 | Jerub | it's true! |
| 04:32.32 | Zhinjio | ok, awesome: http://lnk.ly/acfx |
| 04:32.32 | karl_w_w | it's not medication, it's pharmaceutical relief |
| 04:33.44 | karl_w_w | give cookie? |
| 04:38.49 | mckenziemc | oh crap that reminds me, i forgot to pick up my meds O.o |
| 04:39.01 | kd3 | yah, don't do that |
| 04:40.39 | mckenziemc | i'll live (unfortunately for you guys) |
| 04:40.59 | kd3 | also, yay. instance maps got updated in 13596 |
| 04:41.13 | Therzok__ | http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/39324_141694879193956_100000603337953_293514_5826444_n.jpg |
| 04:41.16 | kd3 | s/instance/world/ |
| 04:41.17 | kd3 | old: http://www.wowpedia.org/images/archive/9/94/20110214043908!WorldMap-Hyjal.jpg new: http://www.wowpedia.org/images/9/94/WorldMap-Hyjal.jpg |
| 04:41.43 | bluspacecow | @therzok i like 0 |
| 04:42.57 | Kraps | Therzok__: no just no |
| 04:42.57 | Adys | http://files.myopera.com/Cyborg-Themes/albums/6078682/1%20%286%29.png |
| 04:42.58 | Adys | http://files.myopera.com/Cyborg-Themes/albums/6078682/1%20%284%29.png |
| 04:43.02 | Adys | holy shit ^ |
| 04:43.48 | mckenziemc | does python have an equivalent to tostring() |
| 04:43.55 | Jamash | why do people always gotta be blowing up planet |
| 04:43.56 | Jamash | s |
| 04:44.03 | Jamash | it's very rude |
| 04:44.30 | karl_w_w | well planets aren't going to blow themselves up you know |
| 04:44.33 | Kaelten | Anyone on a non-english client willing to test OneBag3 for me? |
| 04:44.45 | Kaelten | mckenziemc: yes |
| 04:44.52 | Adys | karl_w_w: well actu-- you know what nevermind |
| 04:44.53 | amro | is it one bag or is it 3? make up your mind! |
| 04:45.02 | Jamash | LionBag:3 |
| 04:45.16 | Kaelten | amro: wait till I get around to ob4 :P |
| 04:45.17 | mckenziemc | i have a tuple that i need to convert to a string, convert an offending character, and then print |
| 04:45.35 | Jamash | send the offending character to county to cool its descenders |
| 04:45.40 | bluspacecow | tuple |
| 04:45.42 | mckenziemc | since it doesn't like to print \u2019 |
| 04:45.43 | bluspacecow | ? |
| 04:45.50 | mckenziemc | ~wiki tuple |
| 04:46.26 | Jamash | it's what you get if you take the suffix from sextuple and bastardize it in the way mathematicians are known to do |
| 04:46.28 | Kaelten | mckenziemc: simple way is that you can do either str(var) or unicode(var) those can result in conversion exceptions depending on the contents of the variable though |
| 04:46.33 | amro | +#include <choke_me.h> |
| 04:46.49 | mckenziemc | thanks, i'll try them |
| 04:47.54 | mckenziemc | oh this is 3.1 btw |
| 04:48.02 | Kaelten | hrm |
| 04:48.06 | Invinciblor | http://docs.python.org/library/functions.html#str - usually just tries to access the __str__ builtin if one exists, IIRC. Been a while |
| 04:48.10 | Kaelten | I've not done any 3.x work |
| 04:48.29 | mckenziemc | it's telling me unicode is not defined so i'll look around the docs |
| 04:48.42 | mckenziemc | i'm calling unicode(the_tuple) |
| 04:48.45 | Kaelten | I think in 3+ all strings are unicode |
| 04:49.00 | amro | in 3.x str is unicode |
| 04:49.01 | amro | iirc |
| 04:49.06 | amro | so just do str() |
| 04:49.11 | mckenziemc | ok |
| 04:49.32 | mckenziemc | yay it works, thanks |
| 04:50.06 | Kaelten | :) |
| 04:50.07 | sylvanaar | i really need to learn python |
| 04:50.14 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: it's pretty fun :) |
| 04:50.31 | Kaelten | and pycharm is an awesome ide |
| 04:50.43 | sylvanaar | hey, have you tried my lastest lua plugin? |
| 04:50.49 | Adys | amro: technically if you want a good 2to3 experience, you need to use unicode() everywhere |
| 04:50.54 | Adys | which annoys me to no end |
| 04:51.38 | sylvanaar | yeah, pycharm is awesome...i think everything jetbrains makes is great |
| 04:52.00 | Adys | meh |
| 04:52.12 | amro | Adys: why weren't you using unicode everywhere? :P |
| 04:52.13 | Adys | can't bear python IDEs... that's not fault of trying |
| 04:52.18 | Adys | amro: laziness |
| 04:52.26 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: I just updated to it tonight any specific things I should check at? |
| 04:53.05 | sylvanaar | sure, you can set it up so that framexml is a library, and include cladhaire's wow api's |
| 04:53.09 | Kraps | http://gawker.com/#!5759473/bieber-fans-attack-esperanza-spaldings-wikipedia-page |
| 04:53.24 | Adys | Kraps: don't you ever get tired of linking crap. |
| 04:53.30 | Adys | even I get tired of that |
| 04:53.33 | Kraps | no Adys |
| 04:53.36 | Kraps | never |
| 04:53.41 | Adys | (linking that is) |
| 04:53.41 | sylvanaar | Kaelten: https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Setting_Up_Custom_API%27s |
| 04:53.41 | amro | shh adys |
| 04:53.47 | amro | the bieber army is on the rise |
| 04:53.50 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: shame you can't ship with that as an option |
| 04:54.38 | sylvanaar | also: https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Setting_Up_Custom_Libraries |
| 04:54.44 | Kaelten | where do I get the wow-api file though |
| 04:54.56 | sylvanaar | its linked on that page |
| 04:55.08 | Kaelten | ah |
| 04:55.10 | Kaelten | missed it |
| 04:55.34 | Adys | gawker links don't even work here |
| 04:57.14 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: one thing that does make me go a little nuts |
| 04:57.21 | Kaelten | is that cmd+w doesn't behave properly |
| 04:57.25 | Kaelten | even though it does in pycharm |
| 04:57.56 | sylvanaar | is that the one that selects increasing scopes? |
| 04:58.05 | Kaelten | it does in intellij |
| 04:58.13 | sylvanaar | what does it do in pycharm? |
| 04:58.20 | Kaelten | but in pycharm (and most other apps I use) it closes tabs |
| 04:58.36 | sylvanaar | well, you can always remap it right |
| 04:58.36 | Jerub | i hate that. |
| 04:58.43 | Jerub | control-w is 'delete previous word' |
| 04:58.58 | sylvanaar | where |
| 04:59.05 | amro | australia |
| 04:59.09 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:59.21 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: oh, so I might be able to... |
| 05:00.10 | Kaelten | oh bloody hell |
| 05:00.24 | Kaelten | it looks like it's stup properly if I change the keymap to "Mac OS X 10.5+" |
| 05:00.30 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 05:00.35 | Kaelten | but on just "Mac OS X" it's wrong |
| 05:01.06 | Kaelten | thats.... just... |
| 05:01.08 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 05:01.08 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 05:01.09 | Kaelten | mutters |
| 05:01.19 | Kraps | amro: |
| 05:01.21 | sylvanaar | well, at least its all better |
| 05:01.38 | Kraps | are you #proudofjustin amro |
| 05:02.26 | Kaelten | yeah I just wonder what other key presses I'm used to are going tog et messed with |
| 05:02.50 | amro | lol rabid bieber fans |
| 05:02.52 | amro | Dear Esperanza Spalding, Did u sell out MSG? Have a world tour? Have a book, movie & 3 Albums? Have 20 million + fans? I DONT THINK SO. |
| 05:03.14 | amro | I don't think they realize she didn't vote herself to victory |
| 05:03.27 | Adys | amro: stop doing this to my IQ |
| 05:03.41 | Kraps | "Roses are red, violets are blue, Esperanza Spalding, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?" |
| 05:03.52 | Kraps | good meter |
| 05:05.31 | amro | RT @shelbyfero That is the sound of a million Americans Googling Esperanza Spalding. |
| 05:05.51 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: If I attach Classes and point it to the folder that has all of the blizzard 1st party addons |
| 05:05.57 | Kaelten | will that work too? |
| 05:06.45 | sylvanaar | i would think so |
| 05:07.07 | sylvanaar | it should work with any lua code |
| 05:07.16 | Kaelten | cool |
| 05:07.35 | sylvanaar | its great for browsing framexml |
| 05:07.44 | Kaelten | ok, next question |
| 05:07.47 | Zhinjio | Kaelten: heya |
| 05:07.52 | Kaelten | heya Zhinjio |
| 05:08.15 | Kaelten | any chance of it being able to pick up auto completes and refactoring between files? |
| 05:08.27 | sylvanaar | whats that mean |
| 05:09.15 | Kaelten | function addon:DoSomething() in one file and then being able to do self:Do... and auto complete kicking it in another file |
| 05:09.56 | sylvanaar | ah, referencing via self, that it still cant to, but referencing liek addon:DoSomething() should |
| 05:09.59 | Kaelten | and also doing a refactor on it in the first file changing calls in other files |
| 05:10.48 | Kaelten | referencing via self possible to work properly, or is it just a "not yet" thing |
| 05:11.00 | Kraps | (i cant believe im doing this) amro, he responded on his twitter |
| 05:11.14 | sylvanaar | its "not yet" |
| 05:11.21 | Kaelten | cool :) |
| 05:11.47 | bluspacecow | ~lastseen Cairenn |
| 05:11.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Xyphoid (~xx@202-154-149-178.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) |
| 05:11.54 | Adys | Kraps: what? |
| 05:11.58 | mckenziemc | ~seen Cairenn |
| 05:12.04 | purl | cairenn is currently on #wowuidev (9h 22m 48s), last said: 'Fisker: 2011, perhaps, pretty sure not 2111 though'. |
| 05:12.04 | sylvanaar | but I think you are right, its an important thing to have |
| 05:12.05 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: I think I have an error starting in the lua plugin |
| 05:12.09 | bluspacecow | ~facepalm |
| 05:12.10 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 05:12.30 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: ? |
| 05:12.33 | amro | Kraps: who responded to what now? |
| 05:12.35 | Kraps | Adys: am i talkin to you? am i? huh? |
| 05:12.39 | bluspacecow | oh hai |
| 05:12.42 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:12.44 | Kaelten | tickles Cairenn |
| 05:12.46 | Kaelten | hides |
| 05:12.54 | sylvanaar | Kaelten: really? what error |
| 05:12.56 | Kraps | amro: teh biebs |
| 05:12.59 | mckenziemc | shines a spotlight on Kaelten |
| 05:13.02 | Cairenn | hugs bluspacecow and giggles at Kaelten |
| 05:13.05 | Adys | Kraps: yes |
| 05:13.09 | amro | Kraps: links |
| 05:13.11 | bluspacecow | oooooo mckenzie |
| 05:13.16 | bluspacecow | can I be bad cop ? |
| 05:13.23 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: http://o7.no/289359/paf9.png |
| 05:13.24 | bluspacecow | WHERE WERE YOU THE EVENING OF THE 19TH SIR ! |
| 05:13.31 | Kraps | amro: afraid of getting lynched |
| 05:14.05 | mckenziemc | lol Kraps |
| 05:14.06 | sylvanaar | Kaelten: do File|Clear Caches, and see if it goes away |
| 05:14.33 | Kaelten | Invalidate caches? |
| 05:15.01 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e0Gsn4khss |
| 05:15.07 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 05:15.31 | sylvanaar | it will make you restart IJ |
| 05:15.40 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 05:15.46 | Kaelten | and now I'm going to restart again |
| 05:15.57 | Kaelten | seems it's taking a lot more ram all of the sudden |
| 05:16.13 | Kaelten | I really need a new machine with 8gs |
| 05:16.22 | Kaelten | or more |
| 05:16.25 | Kaelten | more would be better |
| 05:16.25 | Kaelten | :D |
| 05:16.31 | amro | bluspacecow: yes, I'd love a snack that will make sharks want to eat me |
| 05:16.52 | Kraps | night |
| 05:16.57 | Adys | i'm sure there's some cheap ram for sale at some java conference |
| 05:17.25 | karl_w_w | there's always cheap ram for sale |
| 05:17.30 | karl_w_w | because ram is cheap |
| 05:19.01 | Kaelten | yeah |
| 05:19.07 | Kaelten | you can buy a lot of ram for really cheap now |
| 05:19.09 | Kaelten | it's pretty cool |
| 05:19.20 | Kaelten | but my machine can only address it's 4G |
| 05:19.21 | Kaelten | :( |
| 05:19.24 | Kaelten | silly macs |
| 05:19.27 | Adys | still only got 4 ramslots here |
| 05:19.42 | bluspacecow | lolzers |
| 05:19.54 | karl_w_w | you can get 4 gb on a stick |
| 05:19.59 | Adys | since i upgraded to 8 gig from 4 i never had ram issues |
| 05:20.04 | Adys | save memleaks |
| 05:20.10 | karl_w_w | you need more than 16 gb of ram? :P |
| 05:20.12 | Adys | but then again I don't run java apps :P |
| 05:20.21 | Adys | nor firefox. |
| 05:20.33 | Kaelten | I have a 2.5 or 3 year old imac, so it can only handle 4g |
| 05:20.36 | Kaelten | new ones can do 16 |
| 05:20.44 | mckenziemc | i'm still using 3GiB of RAM :( |
| 05:20.58 | Adys | mckenziemc: that's a lot for someone still on dialup |
| 05:21.04 | Jerub | 4gb is the minimum allowed by the universal declaration of human rights. |
| 05:21.04 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 05:21.09 | Adys | sorry man :P |
| 05:22.00 | Kaelten | if only I could take one of my DB servers from work and put a graphics card in it.... |
| 05:22.01 | karl_w_w | oh that reminds me, i upgraded my graphics card from one with 512 mb to 1 gb, and my pc can now use 3.5gb of my 4gb of ram, where before it could only use 3gb (im on 32 bit). explain. |
| 05:22.13 | Corrodias | memory addressing |
| 05:22.19 | Corrodias | uh |
| 05:22.21 | Corrodias | it's magic. |
| 05:22.30 | mckenziemc | karl: which OS |
| 05:22.34 | karl_w_w | win 7 |
| 05:22.47 | Corrodias | did the old card use 512 "shared" memory? |
| 05:22.51 | mckenziemc | i think 7 & Vista give some system ram to the VC |
| 05:23.12 | Adys | karl_w_w: windows 32bit memory is stupidly bad |
| 05:23.26 | karl_w_w | it didnt dedicate any before and it doesnt now |
| 05:23.37 | karl_w_w | still shares 1.5gb now as it did before |
| 05:23.52 | Corrodias | shares 1.5? well, now i'm lost completely. |
| 05:24.02 | Invinciblor | Assuming you're using a 32-bit Win7? |
| 05:24.03 | karl_w_w | it doesnt use all of that |
| 05:24.07 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 05:24.09 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/item=65503/ |
| 05:24.20 | karl_w_w | i dont think it really used any of it before the upgrade |
| 05:24.34 | mckenziemc | cringes away from Ackis. |
| 05:24.36 | Adys | Ackis: ah, thanks, that's mine -- I lost it a while back |
| 05:24.53 | Zhinjio | Ackis: srsly dude, why are you so entranced with that thing? |
| 05:24.55 | Zhinjio | heh |
| 05:25.03 | Zhinjio | did you Tauren eat it or something? |
| 05:25.04 | karl_w_w | is vram addressed by the system or is it just used internally by the card? |
| 05:25.28 | Ackis | Zhinjio: :P |
| 05:25.32 | Invinciblor | Only 4gb is addressable in 32-bit, so if your video card is 1gb and you have 3.5gb system available... I'd suspect your video card has some sort of issues. |
| 05:25.42 | mckenziemc | "Sadly you cannot wrap it and mail it to friends." |
| 05:26.10 | karl_w_w | well my card seems to be going fine |
| 05:26.23 | karl_w_w | gpu-z reports 1gb of memory on it |
| 05:26.48 | Invinciblor | Note that even though a modern video card can have 256MB or more of onboard memory, only 128KB of this memory appears available to the system in the video RAM area. The rest of the memory is accessible only by the video processor (on the video card) directly, or by your system processor via a memory aperture positioned near the 4GB top of the system address space. Because this aperture can be configured differently by vari |
| 05:27.39 | karl_w_w | that makes sense |
| 05:28.02 | Invinciblor | Best bet I guess would be to ask someone else using the same video card and 32-bit windows what they're seeing |
| 05:28.54 | Invinciblor | Do .toc changes need a client restart or is reloading the UI enough? |
| 05:29.04 | karl_w_w | client restart |
| 05:30.24 | Invinciblor | I've been trying to load a custom TTF but not sure how to tell the client it's there. I assume just dropping it in isn't enough since addons have to list their files via the toc or <Script> includes in the XML... |
| 05:33.08 | Invinciblor | Yep. Restarting the client with the TTF referenced in the TOC has got it loading. Now to find out if there is an XML tag for loading fonts/textures... |
| 05:33.23 | Seerah | Anything *new* that you are looking for with your code, needs a client restart for it to "see" the new file |
| 05:33.39 | Seerah | and you don't add fonts to the .toc (or textures, or sounds) |
| 05:34.04 | Invinciblor | Well, it isn't the sanest place for it, but it worked, I'm just trying to stumble through what the client wants. lol |
| 05:34.11 | Invinciblor | Now to find out how to do it properly |
| 05:34.27 | karl_w_w | "Interface\\AddOns\\<addon>\\<font>.ttf" |
| 05:35.00 | Seerah | no, it didn't work that way. you're mistaken. as I mentioned, any file in a different location than it was when WoW started requires a client restart |
| 05:35.21 | Seerah | has nothing to do with you adding it to the .toc |
| 05:35.32 | Seerah | since it doesn't belong in the .toc :) |
| 05:36.02 | Invinciblor | I restarted the client when I added the file to the folder though, that wasn't enough. |
| 05:36.05 | Seerah | The WoW client caches files when it is started. |
| 05:36.14 | Seerah | did you exit all the way out? |
| 05:36.17 | Invinciblor | That's what I was expecting, but SetFont was returning nil |
| 05:36.20 | Invinciblor | Yeah |
| 05:36.28 | Seerah | then your path to SetFont was wrong. |
| 05:36.56 | Seerah | Did you escape the slashes in the file path? (see karl_w_w's example above) |
| 05:37.00 | Invinciblor | Yeah. |
| 05:37.29 | Seerah | then something else was wrong. Because, again, adding it to the .toc does nothing. |
| 05:39.10 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~Ryan@adsl-41-123-154.mem.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:39.14 | Adys | Man this pineapple jam is awesome. |
| 05:39.30 | Invinciblor | Heresy. Pineapple is for marmalades. |
| 05:39.52 | Adys | pineapple is made for awesome |
| 05:40.59 | karl_w_w | the best thing to do with a pineapple is juice it |
| 05:41.07 | karl_w_w | and maybe a dozen of it's friends |
| 05:42.26 | Invinciblor | I think my favourite pineapple application is with baked ham |
| 05:42.45 | kd3 | yuk |
| 05:43.11 | karl_w_w | im with kd3 |
| 05:43.17 | Adys | I'm with kd3 too :( |
| 05:43.32 | karl_w_w | im of the general opinion that fruit and cookery never mix |
| 05:43.32 | Adys | im tempted to order pizza with pineapple here just to doublecheck it's actually disgusting |
| 05:43.47 | karl_w_w | the exception being tomatos of course |
| 05:44.12 | Invinciblor | Unless you go by US tax laws, instead of biology.. then it's a vegetable :P |
| 05:44.27 | kd3 | not that our tax laws make any sense at all |
| 05:44.42 | karl_w_w | i try to pay as little attention to US laws as possible |
| 05:45.07 | Adys | Invinciblor: what about tax laws? |
| 05:45.37 | Jerub | no ones tax laws are sane. |
| 05:45.44 | Invinciblor | For taxation purposes tomatoes were classified as a vegetable. I'd dig for a link but I'm too lazy |
| 05:45.51 | Jerub | roofing nails don't attract a 10% tax but other nails do. |
| 05:45.55 | Jerub | (in australia) |
| 05:46.40 | Adys | attempts a "roofs in australia" joke and fails |
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| 05:49.10 | Kaelten | sylvanaar: another nice thing would be stopping it from create an src directory |
| 05:49.25 | sylvanaar | that is an option i think |
| 05:49.41 | sylvanaar | it says "create src directory", with a checkbox |
| 05:50.05 | sylvanaar | i can see about removing it entirely |
| 05:50.14 | Kaelten | where does it say that? |
| 05:50.41 | Kaelten | http://o7.no/289359/o7cf.png |
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| 05:51.47 | Invinciblor | I think I had screwed something up with my font paths when I was having those issues. |
| 05:59.58 | karl_w_w | !api loot_opened |
| 05:59.58 | lua_bot | LOOT_OPENED: Fires when the player begins interaction with a lootable corpse or object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/LOOT_OPENED) |
| 06:05.32 | airtonix | Jerub: lulz? |
| 06:06.55 | Jerub | airtonix: um, sorry. the lulz is that roofing nails and building nails are the same nails, but if they're used for roofing, they don't attract tax at point of sale. |
| 06:07.29 | Trela | Kaelten: Did the shrubbery salesman stop by your house yesterday? |
| 06:07.40 | Kaelten | nope |
| 06:07.49 | Kaelten | then again I wasn't home much of yesterday either |
| 06:08.15 | Trela | Kaelten: Ah. Seriously, guy came to the door with a truck full of shrubberies... asking me if I wanted to buy them. |
| 06:08.39 | Kaelten | wonder if he picked them up from the models construction work they where doing? |
| 06:09.16 | Trela | ...XD |
| 06:09.18 | Trela | Probably! |
| 06:09.35 | Kaelten | we noticed when we came home yesterday that they didn't have nearly as many down there |
| 06:09.36 | Kaelten | lol |
| 06:09.52 | Trela | Epic swindle. |
| 06:09.58 | Kaelten | indeed |
| 06:10.42 | Trela | I need to put up a no solicitation sign. All the alarm sellers are getting old. |
| 06:10.48 | Trela | Some in the literal sense. |
| 06:10.55 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 06:11.08 | Kaelten | post a sign notifying any solicitors of a fee |
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| 06:13.54 | karl_w_w | im tired |
| 06:14.01 | karl_w_w | who wants to take a nap for me? |
| 06:16.04 | airtonix | Jerub: does that mean you need a builders license ? |
| 06:16.22 | airtonix | (everything in australia requires a license) |
| 06:22.36 | Jerub | airtonix: no one really knows. it's all accountancy crap |
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| 06:56.40 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxi73RQlLB8 |
| 06:59.39 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/hairy_potter.jpg |
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| 07:04.11 | Shirik | just had his first onstar experience |
| 07:07.21 | Trela | Shirik: Lock your keys out on a shitty GM? |
| 07:07.27 | Shirik | no |
| 07:07.34 | Shirik | I left Portland without looking at my gas |
| 07:07.44 | Shirik | so I got in between two cities with 30 miles to go either way |
| 07:07.50 | Trela | XD |
| 07:08.11 | Shirik | They unfortunately didn't tell me much more than I already knew -- that the nearest gas station was 30 miles away |
| 07:08.17 | Shirik | but it was nice to at least be able to check |
| 07:08.25 | Trela | No offer to send help? |
| 07:08.28 | Shirik | Well I didn't run out |
| 07:08.30 | Shirik | they would have |
| 07:08.34 | airtonix | they don't care |
| 07:08.38 | Shirik | But I filled up at the gas station |
| 07:08.42 | Shirik | I have a 20 gallon gas tank |
| 07:08.46 | Shirik | It was 20.028 gallons |
| 07:09.00 | Trela | I have such a bad reputation for running out of gas that I have jerry can mounts.(Jeep Wrangler...) |
| 07:09.04 | airtonix | did they even ask if you ran out of gas? |
| 07:09.11 | Shirik | They know my car's running... |
| 07:09.17 | airtonix | without you prompting them |
| 07:09.19 | Shirik | they can see me moving |
| 07:09.23 | Shirik | they have a GPS fix |
| 07:09.31 | Trela | They know what you are thinking. |
| 07:09.34 | airtonix | how do they know you're not being pushed ? |
| 07:09.34 | Shirik | ^ |
| 07:09.38 | airtonix | or towed ? |
| 07:09.39 | Shirik | at 65 mph? |
| 07:09.46 | airtonix | dude |
| 07:09.56 | Shirik | My car came with a neural interface |
| 07:10.03 | Shirik | they can read my mind, like Trela said |
| 07:10.07 | airtonix | i have a t888 for my engine |
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| 07:11.59 | Shirik | anyway |
| 07:12.03 | Shirik | I got my ass kicked at the tournament |
| 07:12.03 | sylvanaar | Kaelten: i got self:foo working within the file its declared in, multiple files will take a bit more work |
| 07:12.05 | Shirik | and I blame airtonix |
| 07:12.44 | Kaelten | awesome |
| 07:13.07 | sylvanaar | its kind of a quick and dirty implementation, but let me push it to my build server, and you can try it if you like |
| 07:14.52 | sylvanaar | i swear developing this plugin is so addictive |
| 07:16.13 | sylvanaar | i think i may need to create a whole new index of identifiers to handle self: globally, thats definately a job for later |
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| 07:21.59 | sylvanaar | Kaelten: ok its out there. its not perfect, you'll get completion variants from any field in the same file - but it will include the right ones too |
| 07:22.48 | sylvanaar | ill try and improve on it later, but its a start |
| 07:23.10 | Fisker | Die Shirik Die |
| 07:24.18 | Shirik | why :( |
| 07:25.08 | sylvanaar | i think i want to work for jetbrains, they have a job opening... I should send my resume |
| 07:26.47 | Fisker | Why you are the Shirik? |
| 07:31.30 | mikma | dance dance dance dance |
| 07:37.06 | airtonix | sylvanaar: you won't get employed |
| 07:37.14 | airtonix | because i won't employ you |
| 07:37.20 | Trela | O.O |
| 07:37.27 | airtonix | because you didn't make my notepad.exe plugin |
| 07:37.27 | Trela | This Google valentine's day logo is EVIL. http://img0.gmodules.com/logos/2011/valentines11-ig.jpg |
| 07:37.33 | Trela | Especially to color blind people. |
| 07:40.47 | mckenziemc | heh |
| 07:43.09 | mckenziemc | airtonix: that's a little harsh even if it's supposed to be a joke : / |
| 07:47.03 | nebula169 | its based on a sculpture |
| 07:47.05 | nebula169 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_(sculpture) |
| 07:52.46 | karl_w_w | first i was afraid |
| 07:52.52 | karl_w_w | i was fiskerfied |
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| 08:03.02 | airtonix | i hate when web based software is coded to only work from subdirectory of hostname |
| 08:03.30 | airtonix | or even worse, from a custom port number |
| 08:07.38 | mckenziemc | hehe |
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| 08:11.25 | Trela | airtonix: This is why I code my software to automatically detect the domain and directory it is in. :D |
| 08:11.33 | Trela | Assuming the server is set up correctly. :x |
| 08:11.43 | airtonix | you shouldn't need to |
| 08:12.23 | airtonix | unless of course you're making a publicly available web application |
| 08:12.32 | Trela | Publicly available. |
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| 08:13.18 | Trela | As long as the SERVER_NAME and DOCUMENT_ROOT variables are set correctly by the web server, it just works. |
| 08:13.19 | airtonix | i mean, stuff like deluge web interface |
| 08:13.33 | mckenziemc | ls var | greppy foo > airtonix |
| 08:14.55 | karl_w_w | i hate it when airtonix |
| 08:15.12 | airtonix | brospeh |
| 08:15.31 | greppy | not sure if I like being in a pipe with foo and airtonix |
| 08:17.03 | mckenziemc | not to worry, you're _overwriting_ airtonix |
| 08:17.58 | Fisker | my tummy is hungy |
| 08:18.09 | mckenziemc | good |
| 08:18.24 | Fisker | and my head is sleepy |
| 08:21.06 | airtonix | Fisker: i am going to eat some awesome spinach and mushroom stew |
| 08:23.21 | Fisker | you know what i like airtonix ? |
| 08:23.29 | Fisker | we can finally post links on the official forums again |
| 08:23.38 | Fisker | atleast for their own sites |
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| 08:24.14 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 08:24.16 | Shirik | why so Fisker? |
| 08:24.48 | Fisker | i'm not |
| 08:25.07 | Shirik | why so Shirik? |
| 08:28.47 | Fisker | i would never |
| 08:28.59 | airtonix | don't even bother |
| 08:33.18 | karl_w_w | nice, we cant clear the trash after halfus because it keeps despawning and respawning |
| 08:33.57 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_XP9OBWGKo&hd=1 lol lol |
| 08:36.10 | airtonix | karl_w_w: that's so awesome because i solved that a year ago |
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| 08:37.15 | mckenziemc | hmm, reading #python from the bottom up gave me a stomache ache |
| 08:44.06 | Jerub | mckenziemc: really? what in particular made your stomach churn. |
| 08:45.17 | mckenziemc | dunno, could've been coincidental but i think my eyes just didn't like moving in that direction >.> |
| 08:45.27 | mckenziemc | it was literal btw |
| 08:45.56 | Jerub | mckenziemc: yeah, but it's a requirement for ops in #python that bad code and stupid ideas make you want to throw up |
| 08:46.04 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 08:46.26 | airtonix | umad |
| 08:46.35 | mckenziemc | urandom? |
| 08:47.09 | airtonix | Hi i'm from spain and I naturally make people rage just by communicating in a joyful and illiterate fashion. |
| 08:47.18 | airtonix | HOLA! |
| 08:47.25 | mckenziemc | adios |
| 08:51.04 | karl_w_w | solved what airtonix? |
| 08:53.37 | airtonix | the problem |
| 08:53.43 | airtonix | THE issue |
| 08:54.01 | Wobin | mikma: haha, he's loving it |
| 08:54.18 | bleeter | wow, HBGary had quite an interest in WoW |
| 08:54.27 | mikma | wobin: yeah :) |
| 08:54.45 | mikma | wobin: i just bought it for me and for my wife (to her as v-day gift) |
| 08:55.02 | bleeter | 'A new code-analyzer will be developed that can: ... inear sweep disassemble World of Warcraft (or equivalent) in 15 |
| 08:55.05 | bleeter | seconds or less' |
| 08:55.10 | bleeter | *linear |
| 08:55.21 | bleeter | http://hbgary.anonleaks.ru/greg_hbgary_com/6923.html |
| 08:55.24 | Wobin | mikma: it's a lot of fun =) |
| 08:57.07 | Corrodias | wait, who is that, again? |
| 08:57.18 | Corrodias | oh wait wait, i remember |
| 09:02.20 | Corrodias | http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/68059_1473610997541_1151656352_31102517_509299_n.jpg |
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| 09:14.32 | airtonix | lol.d |
| 09:15.51 | airtonix | bleeter: explain this to me |
| 09:16.56 | airtonix | oh hbgary is that hoho-lol-computer-security company |
| 09:17.00 | mckenziemc | 'this' refers to the object with which a given method is associated, used to access other methods of the object |
| 09:17.38 | mckenziemc | from within the method |
| 09:18.19 | airtonix | ~wiki this |
| 09:18.33 | mckenziemc | ~wiki that |
| 09:18.38 | airtonix | ~wiki there |
| 09:23.08 | karl_w_w | how hard is ascendant council? |
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| 09:23.27 | karl_w_w | compared to say atramedes |
| 09:24.59 | airtonix | considering the word ascendant |
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| 09:29.43 | bleeter | so has 'Drive Organ' been posted here yet? |
| 09:29.58 | bleeter | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.59 | mckenziemc | Didn't know how to play it | But he knew for sure | That one guitar | felt good in his hands |
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| 09:36.49 | haste | Fisker: http://www.b.dk/nationalt/vi-er-verdens-mest-mentalt-nedslidte owned! |
| 09:37.17 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:37.44 | Fisker | that's probably just because of all the BS |
| 09:38.13 | Fisker | For example my mom was in a car accident |
| 09:38.20 | Fisker | and she has some very nasty backpains |
| 09:38.37 | Fisker | So they claimed it was psychological |
| 09:38.39 | Fisker | lololol |
| 09:38.51 | Fisker | (i.e. so they could say it didn't exist, and wouldn't have to pay for it) |
| 09:39.31 | mckenziemc1 | i'd have back pains too if Fisker was my chiled |
| 09:39.32 | Kalroth | haste: yaaay, we're best at something! |
| 09:39.35 | mckenziemc1 | child* |
| 09:39.40 | haste | Kalroth: :D |
| 09:39.47 | Fisker | not that long ago we were the best country in the world Kalroth |
| 09:39.52 | Fisker | best country eu |
| 09:39.53 | Kalroth | Fisker: we still are |
| 09:40.00 | Fisker | naw i think we're like nr. 2 or 3 now |
| 09:40.15 | Kalroth | we're danish dynamite, fuck the rest, yeeeeeaaaah!! |
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| 09:48.10 | haste | based on HDI denmark is 19th |
| 09:55.44 | mikma | dynamite, dynamite, dy dy dynamite |
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| 11:24.29 | Fisker | kisses purl |
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| 11:29.05 | airtonix | Fisker: why so srs |
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| 11:33.36 | airtonix | Cide: you know the django admin forms you get for your own models ? |
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| 11:35.24 | airtonix | the plus sign you get next to choice fields which relate to the models foriegn key |
| 11:35.51 | airtonix | if i create my frontend forms via an iteration over Form.fields, is there an easy way to add that to my form ? |
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| 11:37.07 | mikma | wobin: lol lol, how can you get up to the tower right after the tutorial start? :P |
| 11:37.08 | airtonix | i can see anything like for field in Form.fields : (field.type ,field.related_model) to let me auto add a link in case it is a foriegn key |
| 11:37.19 | airtonix | can't* |
| 11:37.28 | sylvanaar_work | im doing my usual recruiting to find users interested in trying out my Lua IDE (plugin). Any takers? |
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| 11:42.44 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:44.10 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with a rolling hash. |
| 11:44.55 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:45.01 | Fisker | i'm buying portal 2 tonight mckenziemc |
| 11:45.40 | mckenziemc | and you're going to gift it to me |
| 11:45.45 | Fisker | no |
| 11:45.49 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 11:45.52 | Fisker | no |
| 11:45.56 | mckenziemc | yes |
| 11:45.57 | Fisker | maybe if you were my girlfriend |
| 11:46.01 | Cide | airtonix: not sure |
| 11:46.48 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 11:46.50 | Fisker | do you have snow? |
| 11:47.20 | airtonix | Cide: i think i might have to extend a few form widgets |
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| 12:01.06 | airtonix | Cide: http://sontek.net/implementing-djangos-admin-interface-pop-ups |
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| 12:11.15 | Therzok__ | OMG. |
| 12:11.16 | Therzok__ | https://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Setting_Up_Custom_API's |
| 12:11.21 | Therzok__ | I'm so gonna start using it. |
| 12:15.17 | sylvanaar_work | Im looking for feedback Therzok__, so let me know what you think |
| 12:15.26 | Therzok__ | Lemme reinstall. >.> |
| 12:15.37 | Therzok__ | I've had issues with it lagging. :< |
| 12:15.39 | Therzok__ | Back then. |
| 12:16.01 | airtonix | >.> |
| 12:16.04 | airtonix | <.< |
| 12:16.36 | Therzok__ | Fiskers airtonix. |
| 12:16.53 | airtonix | violates Therzok__ |
| 12:17.00 | Therzok__ | mmm. |
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| 12:17.06 | Therzok__ | You alone are not enough to satisfy me. |
| 12:17.17 | Therzok__ | It's either Fisker or 10 men. |
| 12:17.27 | airtonix | but i was, and that's all that matters |
| 12:17.37 | Therzok__ | No. |
| 12:17.40 | Therzok__ | Fisker. <3 |
| 12:17.50 | airtonix | you have the psychology ass backwards |
| 12:18.00 | Therzok__ | ssa? |
| 12:18.08 | airtonix | (nohomo) |
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| 12:25.28 | mckenziemc | homophobe |
| 12:27.32 | airtonix | no liking and being afraid of are two different things |
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| 12:28.21 | mckenziemc | wat |
| 12:28.43 | airtonix | umadbro? |
| 12:29.04 | mckenziemc | no, i'm insomnaic :( |
| 12:30.24 | airtonix | you should watch judge judy |
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| 12:53.33 | mikma | wobin: level 3 and i got enough of this game |
| 12:53.55 | mikma | wobin: 2 trolls that heal eachother and spaw shitloads of goblins. no thanks |
| 12:56.35 | sylvanaar_work | I just sent my resume to JetBrains for a job posting they have. /cross-fingers |
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| 13:04.18 | Derabo | hmmm why cant I change the LOW_, HIGH_text on my sliders? |
| 13:04.34 | Derabo | getglobal(MySlider:GetName() .. 'Low'):SetText('1') says "attempt to concatenate a nil value" |
| 13:08.25 | haste | Derabo: that just means :GetName() returns nil for MySlider |
| 13:08.42 | haste | Derabo: you should also use _G[var] instead of getglobal(var) |
| 13:08.53 | Derabo | hmmm ok |
| 13:09.22 | Derabo | but still the same error |
| 13:09.36 | Derabo | isnt there a direct name for the text so I can change it? |
| 13:09.39 | haste | yes, because MySlider:GetName() returns nil |
| 13:09.47 | haste | I can't see your code, so I can't tell you how |
| 13:10.19 | Derabo | actually its widthSlider:GetName() because that is the name of my slider. but thats the code I got from wowpedia/wiki |
| 13:11.07 | haste | you should replace the example variable with the correct one ofc :P |
| 13:11.18 | Derabo | did that of course :D |
| 13:11.34 | Derabo | so _G[widthSlider:GetName() .. 'Low']:SetText('1') should work, right? |
| 13:11.46 | haste | only if widthSlider has a name set |
| 13:12.00 | haste | which it doesn't in this case, which means it was created throuth lua |
| 13:12.07 | Derabo | local widthSlider = CreateFrame("Slider", widthSlider, notesConfig, "OptionsSliderTemplate") |
| 13:12.30 | haste | and what was widthSlider set to at that point? |
| 13:12.43 | haste | I'm guessing nil! |
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| 13:12.57 | Derabo | got me. forgot the " :D |
| 13:13.00 | Derabo | thank you :) |
| 13:13.12 | haste | widthSlider is a horribly generic name btw |
| 13:13.25 | Derabo | yeah I will change it. just for trying in wowlua |
| 13:14.18 | Wobin | mikma: I think it's more fun with lots of players =P |
| 13:15.07 | airtonix | awesomelyNamedWidthSliderThatChangesLotsOfThingsInAwesomeFunWays_1_top |
| 13:15.28 | airtonix | mines better |
| 13:17.36 | Derabo | k. will use that airtonix. but never with copy and paste! this will be fun |
| 13:18.07 | airtonix | I KNOW RIGHT?!!!!?!?!?!?! |
| 13:18.24 | Derabo | thanks man! |
| 13:18.26 | airtonix | </obnoxious> |
| 13:18.59 | Wobin | http://www.dump.com/2011/01/29/largest-neodymium-magnet-in-the-world-video/ |
| 13:20.14 | Derabo | o.O impressive |
| 13:20.57 | airtonix | no |
| 13:21.04 | airtonix | i think the word is "scary" |
| 13:21.42 | airtonix | grandpa enters screen left = lulz |
| 13:27.00 | mikma | wobin: apparently the big trolls don't lice arcanefrostfrostfrostfrost spell :D they freeze |
| 13:27.24 | Wobin | it's the best attack there is |
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| 13:27.37 | Wobin | it freezes them in place, and arcane barrages them to death |
| 13:37.25 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:38.52 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 13:39.06 | Fisker | Im on a mac and seem to have been hacked or have I ? |
| 13:40.50 | airtonix | qqmoar |
| 13:41.10 | mikma | wobin: really raises the enthusiasm of playing when you fucking die over and over |
| 13:41.14 | airtonix | also you fail at computer |
| 13:41.56 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:42.04 | Wobin | although I wish the respawn was faster |
| 13:42.13 | Wobin | on single player |
| 13:42.36 | mikma | couldn't get pass the Jormungandr, tried several times and died so fuck that |
| 13:43.08 | Wobin | oh that one is tough |
| 13:43.16 | Wobin | you have to shield yourself against the poison |
| 13:43.33 | Wobin | then before he comes up, charge up a 3xearth |
| 13:43.40 | Wobin | and hit him as soon as he appears |
| 13:43.47 | Wobin | it stuns him, and he drops back underground |
| 13:43.53 | Wobin | rinse and repeat |
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| 13:48.04 | mikma | life + shield is poison shield? :P |
| 13:48.27 | Wobin | yes |
| 13:48.32 | Wobin | but normal shield will prevent it too |
| 13:48.45 | Wobin | do you have that regen staff? |
| 13:48.56 | Wobin | that's the best staff in the game at the beginning |
| 13:49.02 | Wobin | because it regens your shield too |
| 13:49.10 | Wobin | so it's almost a permanent shield |
| 13:49.17 | Wobin | until the enemies do enough damage to wipe it out fast |
| 13:49.22 | mikma | wobin: nope |
| 13:49.32 | Wobin | try and get it. It's awesome |
| 13:49.40 | mikma | how? |
| 13:51.52 | Wobin | staff of life |
| 13:51.55 | Wobin | not sure where it is |
| 13:52.28 | mikma | oh |
| 13:52.31 | mikma | now i rememver |
| 13:52.37 | mikma | it was right at the start, at the farm |
| 13:52.39 | Wobin | right at the beginning |
| 13:52.41 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:52.46 | Wobin | grows in the field or something |
| 13:53.25 | mikma | how about the book at the beginning |
| 13:53.41 | mikma | there's one ontop of the bridge that's collapsed which leads to the magetower |
| 13:54.23 | Wobin | you technically can't get that til later in the game |
| 13:54.27 | Wobin | it's the teleport spell |
| 13:54.31 | mikma | ah ok |
| 13:54.38 | Wobin | you can in multiplayer though |
| 13:54.40 | mikma | was kind of odd to try and find the "rain" spell |
| 13:54.55 | mikma | but finally i realized how to cast it |
| 13:54.56 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0k3iYDfwDU |
| 13:54.59 | mikma | and electrocuted myself to death |
| 13:55.42 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 13:55.43 | Wobin | hahah yes |
| 13:55.45 | Wobin | I've done that |
| 13:55.56 | Maldivia | wait til you get thunderstorm :P |
| 13:56.10 | zenzelezz | which game is this? |
| 13:56.14 | mitch0 | what's this thing you're talking about? |
| 13:56.18 | Cide | magicka |
| 13:57.08 | Maldivia | Wobin: jormungandr, the absolute easiest way to beat him: stand in a spot, aoe shield, and then wait till he bumps into it and takes aroudn 15% damage :P |
| 13:58.04 | mikma | will the game get harder with multiplayer? |
| 13:58.11 | Maldivia | mikma: life+shield is a poison shield... but you can't heal yourself either in that period :) |
| 13:58.19 | Maldivia | mikma: two words: friendly fire |
| 13:58.25 | mikma | muhaha |
| 13:58.33 | mikma | whops, revive, whops, revive |
| 13:58.37 | mikma | (friend has quit) |
| 13:59.08 | mikma | sorry that i'm being a piratefisker, but, http://www.rlslog.net/microsoft-windows-7-professional-edition-with-sp1-zwtiso/ |
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| 14:07.12 | bluspacecow | oh look guys |
| 14:07.25 | bluspacecow | its the cliched curse client is haxxoring you thread of the week = http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1567932448 |
| 14:08.01 | bluspacecow | i will now don my tin foil hat and dance the jig of "remove all virus and trojans from my computer with this intepretive dance" |
| 14:08.23 | Kalroth | "PLS CURS, I DOWNLOAD CLIENT FROM CURZ.RU AND SOMETHIN ISNT RIGHT MY MOUSE MOVES BY ITSELF" |
| 14:08.32 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 14:08.34 | bluspacecow | its general |
| 14:08.38 | bluspacecow | right sod answering that one |
| 14:09.13 | bluspacecow | wait its from the 12 of dec ...die necro DIE DIE DIE |
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| 14:17.59 | karl_w_w | solo|work: finished your lightwell addon yet? :P |
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| 14:20.21 | Arxae | hello :) |
| 14:20.38 | Arxae | quick question, what is the name of the function to get the character name the player is currently playing? :p |
| 14:21.48 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.08 | Arxae | forgot about unitname >_> thanks :) |
| 14:24.19 | karl_w_w | for future reference: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api |
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| 14:25.45 | Arxae | yeah, but was looking for something like GetPlayerName() or something :p |
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| 14:33.30 | Arxae | thanks again ^^ cya now :) |
| 14:36.39 | Fisker | slaps karl_w_w around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:53.40 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/item=65503 this is the best item in WoW |
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| 14:54.36 | airtonix | oooO |
| 14:54.38 | zenzelezz | why hello there Lopeppeppy! |
| 14:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, dear. |
| 14:55.23 | Ackis | gives Fisker an item:65503 |
| 14:55.54 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || BC 2011 Announced! http://bit.ly/hlEtVv || Happy VD |
| 14:55.56 | airtonix | tl;dr , Ackis gives manlove to fisker |
| 14:56.14 | zenzelezz | who's got VD? |
| 14:56.23 | Ackis | grats on the VD Cairenn |
| 14:56.25 | airtonix | way to gutter trash it zenzelezz |
| 14:56.38 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 14:56.42 | Ackis | kicks himself to save Cairenn the trouble |
| 14:58.09 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Kissy Kissy to you, Cairenn. |
| 14:58.17 | Cairenn | smoogles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:59.18 | Thunder_Child | well you get VD from VD, so it's rather apt |
| 14:59.32 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: I got VD from Fisker |
| 14:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | I have no plans to contract VD on any day, kthnks! |
| 14:59.46 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: congradulations? |
| 14:59.54 | Ackis | thanks |
| 15:00.00 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: no one ever 'plans' to get it... |
| 15:00.20 | bluspacecow | @Cairenn http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/ece28d63-6749-4a1b-bdf2-05838577f128.gif |
| 15:00.25 | airtonix | fisker does |
| 15:00.31 | Cairenn | bluspacecow: awwww |
| 15:01.00 | Thunder_Child | worst google image in a long long time |
| 15:01.14 | Thunder_Child | s/image/doodle/ |
| 15:01.22 | Ackis | I googled bot fly yesterday |
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| 15:04.31 | Fisker | wanna die Ackis ? |
| 15:05.07 | Thunder_Child | he already had you once, what more do you want? |
| 15:06.05 | bluspacecow | "Dad: Never trust a priest with a boner. And definitely never trust a nun with a boner." |
| 15:06.09 | bluspacecow | oh my. |
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| 15:09.13 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:09.19 | bluspacecow | hmmmm |
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| 15:14.35 | airtonix | lold |
| 15:14.58 | airtonix | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1352388/ |
| 15:16.46 | airtonix | Fisker: how awesome are optical discs? |
| 15:17.19 | Fisker | a bit more awesome than apple products |
| 15:17.57 | airtonix | which is slightly more awesome than playing steam on macs |
| 15:19.46 | Fisker | playing steam? |
| 15:21.33 | bluspacecow | playing steam on a virtual box of a mac , running on a main frame through a VNC box on windows 7 box |
| 15:22.08 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lcp3e5nqa8 |
| 15:23.29 | airtonix | i really hate optical discs |
| 15:23.52 | airtonix | dvd movies should come on free ssd drives |
| 15:23.53 | zenzelezz | who doesn't |
| 15:24.51 | airtonix | i'm throwing out half of my dvds |
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| 15:25.37 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 15:25.49 | airtonix | Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/UX1No.jpg |
| 15:25.51 | Fisker | dvd movies should come on online downloads |
| 15:26.04 | Fisker | though in canada's case it's easier to ship ssd's |
| 15:26.11 | airtonix | hoho |
| 15:26.12 | Fisker | sup airtonix ? |
| 15:26.31 | airtonix | justin forgot to finish downloading steam |
| 15:27.00 | mikma | LOLOLO 0 Online FOREVER ALONE! |
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| 15:45.54 | TC-Work | "ROTFLMAOFDTSBAMLATAWNSU - Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off Falling Down The Stairs Breaking All My Legs And The Ambulance Will Not Show Up " >.< |
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| 16:00.38 | airtonix | Obviously you need health care for various aspects |
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| 16:07.58 | zenzelezz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet#Orthography - where would we be without Wikipedia |
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| 16:13.03 | mono|strigoy | pfff, any druids here? Particularly doomkins, what is the name of this mashroom bar you get under your default player frames? |
| 16:13.28 | airtonix | wariobar |
| 16:13.52 | airtonix | but only if you're a plumber |
| 16:15.43 | mono|strigoy | yeah... haha.. now back to the point I'd like to make a tag for this stuff in my oUF layout |
| 16:24.13 | mojosdojo- | mono|strigoy: Eclipse bar |
| 16:24.42 | mojosdojo- | tag is ['pereclipse'] |
| 16:24.47 | mono|strigoy | whaaat eclipse bar is different |
| 16:24.57 | mono|strigoy | *something different |
| 16:25.21 | mono|strigoy | i'm talking about this: http://img21.imageshack.us/i/83214390.jpg/ |
| 16:25.48 | mojosdojo- | what is this? I've never seen this |
| 16:25.58 | airtonix | it's your eggbasket |
| 16:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | Looks like some kind of buff/debuff thing... install any new addons lately? |
| 16:26.09 | airtonix | if you drop one or don't cook wit within the time limit |
| 16:26.10 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, airtonix rules. |
| 16:26.14 | airtonix | then you loose |
| 16:26.25 | nebula169 | its the mushroom timer, like a shaman's totem timer |
| 16:27.45 | mono|strigoy | nebula169: yeah exactly thats what I was talking about, it's been added in the recent patch I think |
| 16:30.57 | nebula169 | oh yea, TotemFrame is the name |
| 16:31.33 | mono|strigoy | eh? have you checked it or just guessing ? :) |
| 16:32.56 | nebula169 | it's in the framexml, sec |
| 16:33.07 | mono|strigoy | yeah found it |
| 16:33.08 | mono|strigoy | https://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/live/FrameXML/TotemFrame.lua |
| 16:33.16 | mono|strigoy | elseif ( class == "DRUID" ) then |
| 16:33.18 | mono|strigoy | etc |
| 16:33.20 | nebula169 | yar |
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| 16:56.20 | nicoli_s | i cant believe i had to pay for Mirc |
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| 16:57.42 | zenzelezz | nicoli_s: how so? |
| 16:57.49 | Torhal|work | nicoli_s: Ick |
| 16:58.05 | zenzelezz | think I still have my license somewhere from the week where all the income went to the Red Cross |
| 16:58.26 | nicoli_s | well for some reason when i restarted today it wouldnt let me get in till i paid for it |
| 16:58.46 | nicoli_s | but ive been using it for like 10+ years so i figured it was time |
| 16:59.33 | airtonix | to use another irc client |
| 16:59.36 | airtonix | btw |
| 16:59.44 | airtonix | smuxi works on windows too |
| 17:00.11 | airtonix | so does quassel |
| 17:00.38 | nicoli_s | yeah but i like mirc |
| 17:00.55 | airtonix | <jedi>no you don't</jedi> |
| 17:01.26 | airtonix | i'm also asleep |
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| 17:01.47 | nicoli_s | mirc does everything ive ever wanted to do irc wise |
| 17:02.00 | nicoli_s | everytime im like "itd be cool if...." and then i see mirc can already do it |
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| 17:05.07 | Ackis | nicoli_s: it'd be cool if you could use an irc client for free... |
| 17:05.55 | nebula169 | its also cool to pay for things you find useful |
| 17:06.06 | nebula169 | even if it is...mirc.../shudder |
| 17:06.42 | nicoli_s | i shoulda just got curse to pay for it |
| 17:06.46 | nicoli_s | might still expense it |
| 17:08.30 | zenzelezz | nicoli_s: how much was mIRC now? Still around $20? |
| 17:08.59 | Ackis | paid for mIRC a long time ago. |
| 17:09.03 | Ackis | doesn't use it anymore. |
| 17:09.12 | Ackis | I also paid or winrar |
| 17:09.14 | Ackis | rawr |
| 17:11.05 | Ackis | Shirik: i r buying http://www.wowhead.com/item=58194 |
| 17:11.34 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:11.40 | Cide | Ackis: what class |
| 17:11.51 | Ackis | priest |
| 17:11.53 | Ackis | holy |
| 17:12.00 | Ackis | jedi |
| 17:12.03 | Ackis | froglok |
| 17:12.04 | nicoli_s | zenzelezz:15 |
| 17:12.04 | Cide | cool |
| 17:12.07 | Ackis | snickers at SOE |
| 17:12.10 | Ackis | Cide: I'm the same class as you |
| 17:12.12 | Cide | I have drape of the twins |
| 17:12.32 | Cide | so while that is an upgrade it just doesn't seem cost effective enough :/ |
| 17:12.53 | Ackis | only options for me to buy are: T11 gloves, healer ring, cloak, boots |
| 17:13.00 | Ackis | I'm going to try and buy boots since they're BOE |
| 17:13.09 | Ackis | I have epic rep gloves |
| 17:13.14 | Ackis | so it's cloak or ring |
| 17:13.21 | Cide | yeah, cloak is excellent |
| 17:13.32 | Ackis | I have an epic ring, so cloak gets me 1 step closer to the achievement ;) |
| 17:13.35 | Cide | ring is only a small upgrade over kibble/veneficial band |
| 17:13.46 | Cide | treads of liquid ice for me <3 |
| 17:14.08 | Ackis | I wear veneficial band/ring of boy emperor |
| 17:14.46 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=maxrl=85;si=2;ub=5;cr=161;crs=1;crv=0;gm=4;rf=1;wt=23:123:103:96:170:24:119;wtv=100:79:50:40:38:37:37;upg=56436 I didn't know about that sexy link |
| 17:15.08 | Cide | but shadow? :P |
| 17:15.14 | Ackis | I was DPSing last night |
| 17:15.16 | Ackis | :P |
| 17:15.24 | Cide | ah |
| 17:15.25 | Ackis | I was pulling 24k dps on hodir |
| 17:15.33 | Cide | lolhodir |
| 17:15.51 | Ackis | the problem with me is I'm competent in both my roles and the changes they made allow my healing gear to act as dps gear pretty decently |
| 17:15.58 | Ackis | I'm 1 achievement away from my 25 man drake |
| 17:17.21 | Cide | wtf |
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| 17:17.23 | Cide | http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=ub=5;cr=161;crs=1;crv=0;gm=3;rf=1;wt=170:23:123:24:96:103;wtv=100:69:60:52:38:31;upg=63437 |
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| 17:17.42 | Cide | one non-heroic item and it doesn't even have spirit |
| 17:18.29 | Ackis | Baron Ashbury's Cuffs have spirit |
| 17:18.38 | Cide | that's the one I'm finding upgrades for silly |
| 17:18.54 | Cide | though bracers of the burningeye are decent, but wowhead lists them as a downgrade |
| 17:18.59 | Cide | which I wouldn't agree with I suppose |
| 17:20.27 | Ackis | I wonder what weightings wowhead uses |
| 17:22.09 | Ackis | there we go, I'm not longer shadow (love having someone at the house to respec me on demand :D) |
| 17:22.22 | Fisker | ok i once killed a guy Ackis |
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| 17:25.19 | Ackis | Cide: look at the ratings for http://www.wowhead.com/items=4?filter=maxrl=85;si=2;ub=5;cr=161;crs=1;crv=0;gm=4;rf=1;wt=170:23:123:24:96:103;wtv=100:69:60:52:38:31;upg=56434 do you agree with the heroic items on there being "upgrades"? |
| 17:26.07 | Fisker | Cide |
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| 17:30.06 | Fisker | punches Elkano |
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| 17:30.59 | nebula169 | the tides cloak is pretty nice, can reforge to spirit if you still feel like you need more regen, the crit ones are meh |
| 17:32.44 | Cide | Ackis: yeah |
| 17:33.15 | Cide | for drape of the twins, certainly |
| 17:33.52 | Ackis | Cide, nebula169: what was making me go huh was when it stated that a crit cloak was better than a haste cloak (2% only but meh) |
| 17:34.34 | Cide | yeah I don't agree with that |
| 17:34.35 | nebula169 | mastery is weighted high, so reforging bumped up its ranking |
| 17:34.55 | Cide | shadow of dread regular is better than drape of the twins heroic? |
| 17:34.57 | Cide | I don't think so |
| 17:35.00 | nebula169 | if you're still running heroics, you'll prolly value haste a bit more than mastery, though |
| 17:35.17 | Cide | those weights are fuckedu p |
| 17:35.19 | Cide | up |
| 17:35.43 | Cide | 286 sta, 190 int, 127 crit, 127 mastery vs 322 sta, 215 int, 143 spirit, 143 haste |
| 17:36.48 | Cide | after reforging that's... +36 sta, +25 int, +93 spirit, +93 haste, -70 mastery, -77 crit |
| 17:36.50 | Ackis | stat weightings on wowhead are as follows: master: 100, int: 69, spell power: 60, spirit 52, crit 38, haste: 31 |
| 17:37.01 | Cide | mastery over *int*? |
| 17:37.13 | Cide | interesting |
| 17:37.15 | nevcairiel | int is the best stat for all casters |
| 17:37.18 | Ackis | crit over haste as well |
| 17:37.18 | nevcairiel | wowhead is just bananas |
| 17:37.31 | Cide | nevcairiel: overall |
| 17:37.31 | Ackis | IMO spirit and int should be ranked the same |
| 17:37.36 | Cide | nah |
| 17:37.39 | durcyn | Ackis: disc? |
| 17:37.54 | Cide | but on your stat choices you can go for spirit over int, because you get a huge int baseline on all items |
| 17:37.58 | nebula169 | well, primary stats are normalized, so if you're comparing the same ilvl, shouldn't even really be a factor |
| 17:38.02 | Ackis | durcyn: holy |
| 17:38.05 | Cide | and you'll be gimped without spirit |
| 17:38.32 | nevcairiel | of course its not black and white, you cannot wear items with only int on them, even if they existed .P |
| 17:38.59 | nebula169 | i may not cast fast, but when that shit hits, you're gonna FEEL it! |
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| 17:39.48 | Cide | haste is only for 12.5% renew |
| 17:39.53 | Cide | basically |
| 17:41.10 | nebula169 | which is what? 500-600 rating? |
| 17:41.40 | Cide | depends on talents |
| 17:41.42 | Ackis | depends on your spec |
| 17:41.42 | amro | monodevelop has the worst implementation of a vi mode in history |
| 17:41.51 | nebula169 | assuming buffs, and a point or two in darkness, i suppose |
| 17:41.56 | Ackis | 3% from shadow talents at most |
| 17:42.00 | Ackis | raid buffs are 5% |
| 17:42.03 | Cide | you want 5.042% haste given 2% from darkness and 5% raid |
| 17:42.34 | Ackis | Cide: only 2% from darkness? |
| 17:42.47 | Cide | what would you drop in holy besides surge of light? |
| 17:42.54 | Cide | and don't say body and soul or I'll stab you |
| 17:42.58 | nebula169 | lol |
| 17:43.23 | amro | body and soul |
| 17:43.34 | Ackis | rapid renewal is on the chopping block for me |
| 17:43.55 | Cide | same |
| 17:43.58 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bchZfhMrRorkfboh:zVo0oqM0z |
| 17:44.06 | Cide | what |
| 17:44.11 | Cide | you don't have DP |
| 17:44.15 | Cide | 30% max health!! |
| 17:44.29 | Ackis | that psec I linked is fail fyi |
| 17:44.35 | Cide | yes |
| 17:44.37 | Cide | that's awful |
| 17:44.39 | nebula169 | lol |
| 17:45.06 | Cide | http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bchZfuMrRkrkcdob:zVo0oqM0z |
| 17:45.07 | Cide | my spec |
| 17:45.35 | Cide | not sure how useful rapid renewal is |
| 17:45.44 | Ackis | drop DP or RR |
| 17:45.46 | Cide | I don't mass renew much |
| 17:45.52 | Ackis | I don't have the mana to anymore |
| 17:45.52 | Cide | why |
| 17:46.04 | Cide | I get 12.5% without 3/3 |
| 17:46.13 | Cide | though I'd get more mastery from grabbing 3/3 |
| 17:46.25 | Ackis | if I need to heal myself, I'll binding heal someone |
| 17:46.28 | Ackis | shrugs |
| 17:46.32 | Cide | ... |
| 17:46.48 | nebula169 | dp is pretty good now |
| 17:47.07 | Ackis | if it's an oh shit moment, I'll shield myself... just seems like a wasted talent |
| 17:47.24 | Cide | it's not survivability |
| 17:47.29 | Cide | heal heals 7.3% of my health |
| 17:47.34 | amro | newb |
| 17:47.41 | Cide | for 2.3% of my mana pool |
| 17:47.48 | Cide | so 30% would be |
| 17:47.48 | Ackis | every 2 minutes |
| 17:47.53 | nebula169 | for free! |
| 17:47.56 | Cide | lua> 30/7.3*2.3 |
| 17:47.56 | lua_bot | Cide: 9.4520547945205 |
| 17:48.00 | Cide | 9.45% of my mana pool |
| 17:48.10 | Cide | and that's the most mana efficient spell we have |
| 17:48.14 | Cide | (except lightwell) |
| 17:48.35 | Cide | so yeah, that's about 8k mana for me every 2 minutes |
| 17:48.37 | amro | it's situational though |
| 17:48.43 | amro | only when raid damage is uneven |
| 17:48.50 | Cide | nah |
| 17:48.53 | amro | otherwise you'll be going up in tandem with the raid |
| 17:49.00 | amro | at least with healing rain etc |
| 17:49.02 | Cide | holy priests should raid heal |
| 17:49.11 | Cide | and CoH will just skip me if I DP |
| 17:49.15 | Ackis | there's been some theory crafting about usefulness of blessed resil in raid encounters |
| 17:49.21 | amro | I dunno how holy raid healing works now |
| 17:49.29 | amro | apparently it's not lol coh and done |
| 17:49.37 | Cide | it basically is |
| 17:49.46 | Cide | CoH on cooldown, PoM on cooldown, renew/PoH |
| 17:49.52 | Ackis | anyways afk meeting |
| 17:50.03 | Cide | and sanctuary on cooldown when stacked naturally |
| 17:50.19 | amro | well I played some guy's holy priest in wotlk and kept everyone up with coh only, so I guess it is different |
| 17:50.44 | nebula169 | cd is longer |
| 17:50.44 | nebula169 | ;[ |
| 17:50.53 | nebula169 | wrath was renewx6 coh repeat |
| 17:51.26 | Cide | and it heals much less compared to people's health pools |
| 17:51.26 | amro | chain heal is still crap, I wonder what they're going to do about it |
| 17:51.45 | Cide | and wrath sucked |
| 17:51.49 | amro | it's actually really efficient, but it heals for squat |
| 17:52.01 | amro | and unless I'm mistaken they improved the chaining on it as well |
| 17:52.07 | Cide | the paradigm shift in cataclysm healing is the best thing that's ever happened to healing |
| 17:52.14 | amro | it used to only hit one target unless everyone was having sex in a straight line |
| 17:52.24 | Cide | you don't do that? |
| 17:52.32 | amro | after the raid, yes |
| 17:52.35 | Cide | ah |
| 17:53.25 | amro | imo they should just make the healing boosts extend to all targets rather than just the first and instead give it a cooldown |
| 17:54.31 | Fisker | sup |
| 17:54.39 | Fisker | usps is awesome btw |
| 17:54.52 | Fisker | i saw today that my package showed up on their tracking stuff |
| 17:54.58 | Fisker | and i got the package today :< |
| 17:55.43 | Lopeppeppy | Their tracking never works for me. My packages are always still in Philadelphia when I get them. |
| 17:56.04 | amro | that's because you really live in philly |
| 17:56.06 | amro | you just don't know it |
| 17:57.30 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Good to know, I should change my default weather station, huh? |
| 17:57.37 | Cide | indeed |
| 17:57.42 | amro | Lopeppeppy: nah, what difference would it make? |
| 17:57.50 | Cide | no wonder you thought the weather prediction was awful |
| 17:58.45 | Lopeppeppy | I do like to know when it's going to snow, but that's about it. |
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| 18:02.48 | Fisker | ~weather ekch |
| 18:04.19 | Fisker | brrrrrrr |
| 18:11.54 | Lopeppeppy | It's a bit warmer than that here today, but it's a fluke, it's going back into the 20's tomorrow. |
| 18:15.26 | KarlKFI|work | went to the beach yesterday |
| 18:17.04 | Lopeppeppy | Crazyman. |
| 18:25.38 | Dagmar | YEah we went from ice & snow last week to it being 63F out right now. |
| 18:25.43 | Dagmar | I don't trust it one bit. |
| 18:25.57 | Dagmar | It's tryin' to trick us into leavin' coats at home. |
| 18:26.51 | Lopeppeppy | As if! |
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| 18:43.17 | Fisker | today i bought portal 2 |
| 18:43.22 | Fisker | anyone want a free portal 1? |
| 18:44.02 | amro | I'll take it if you give me $20 |
| 18:46.43 | Fisker | i won't |
| 18:49.36 | Zyn | gimmie your soul |
| 18:49.58 | Zyn | also I need to order good headphones :C |
| 18:50.31 | Zyn | (if anyone says Skullcandy, Fisker will visit you) |
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| 19:28.14 | Jamash | Sennheiser or go home |
| 19:33.20 | zenzelezz | http://theoatmeal.com/blog/valentines_day |
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| 19:35.08 | Jamash | by linking to the comic, you are part of the problem |
| 19:35.18 | nebula169 | senns ftw |
| 19:56.14 | Ackis | why isn't this considered theft: http://consumerist.com/2011/02/directv-drains-customers-bank-account-to-pay-for-her-dead-friends-satellite-service.html ? |
| 19:56.29 | Ackis | I mean if I accidentally took $800 from someone on the street without their permission, it'd be theft |
| 19:58.33 | Jamash | well you see, in our lovely modern world, corporations have rights and people don't |
| 19:58.41 | Kraftman | because laws don't apply to companies, it seems |
| 19:58.50 | Jamash | so if you took $800 from a corporation you'd go to jail |
| 19:59.03 | Jamash | if a corporation takes $800 from you, you go to jail |
| 19:59.09 | Jamash | see how it works? |
| 19:59.19 | nebula169 | and get fined for for, too |
| 19:59.23 | nebula169 | for it* |
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| 19:59.50 | Fisker | i like finding out after starting a boss encounter that i haven't learned rebuke from the trainer since it was changed :< |
| 19:59.58 | Jamash | dawwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 20:00.15 | nebula169 | well, it was an accounting mistake and they're giving it back, but she should get some pro-bono suing on |
| 20:00.16 | Lopeppeppy | oopst. |
| 20:00.35 | Kraftman | is there a good tutorial anywhere on using scrollframes, or could someone quickly run through them for me? |
| 20:00.58 | Kraftman | eg how do they hide stuff? |
| 20:01.11 | amro | they eat it before the cops bust in |
| 20:01.31 | Fisker | Intel's meego ad needs to fuck off and die in a fire |
| 20:01.44 | Fisker | no offense of course |
| 20:02.02 | durcyn | don't worry, it's a burning platform |
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| 20:03.22 | Jamash | like an offshore oil rig run by british petroleum |
| 20:03.51 | amro | that joke is so 2010 Jamash |
| 20:04.18 | Kraftman | bloody brits |
| 20:04.22 | Jamash | too late? |
| 20:05.38 | Jamash | I just love the idea of dropping linux and going with a *microsoft* mobile platform as a shrewd technology move |
| 20:05.56 | Fisker | you shouldn't |
| 20:06.13 | Jamash | it's valentine's day |
| 20:06.15 | durcyn | microsoft bribed them more than google could, therefore, |
| 20:06.25 | Jamash | I can love anything I want |
| 20:10.37 | amro | nokia was tired of being the fourth most well liked company in the world |
| 20:10.59 | Jamash | I think this is the best comment I've ever seen: http://www.techeye.net/mobile/men-fail-to-bat-eyebrows-to-flirt-with-women#comment-34448 |
| 20:13.06 | Dagmar | amro: no sense stopping there when you can go straight to the bottom |
| 20:13.14 | Ackis | I just trolled cog|work :D |
| 20:13.41 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, you're mean. |
| 20:13.57 | Dagmar | I'm still astonished the best thing they could come up with to re-enliven their brand was to get in bed with Microsoft |
| 20:14.06 | Jamash | Trolling is good for people |
| 20:14.16 | amro | "Femininity uses the heart, which coincidentally, is situated on the left," WRONG |
| 20:14.19 | amro | it's not always on the left |
| 20:14.30 | Lopeppeppy | Especially not after I rip it out. |
| 20:14.43 | Jamash | now who's being mean? |
| 20:14.59 | Lopeppeppy | But... that's me being actually nice, Jamash. Especially today. |
| 20:15.29 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: nah |
| 20:15.34 | amro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextrocardia |
| 20:15.53 | amro | when your sociocultural theory breaks down because of a congenital defect, it's time to shut up |
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| 20:17.01 | Ackis | trolls Lopeppeppy and cog|work at the same time! |
| 20:17.05 | Jamash | Lopeppeppy: http://www.angryflower.com/deberg.gif kind of a crappy scan but w/e |
| 20:17.08 | amro | also, try saying femininity 5 times fast |
| 20:17.22 | Ackis | femity |
| 20:17.41 | Jamash | femininininininininininity |
| 20:17.42 | Lopeppeppy | Ity |
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| 20:18.23 | amro | wow, a three's company reference |
| 20:18.25 | amro | how old is that? |
| 20:18.29 | amro | that comic* |
| 20:18.38 | Jamash | 1998 |
| 20:19.25 | mikma | http://store.steampowered.com/app/620?snr=1_41_4__42 <- portal2 pre-purchase! |
| 20:19.46 | amro | Fisker: old |
| 20:19.47 | Ackis | portal sucks |
| 20:19.56 | amro | does anyone here develop software for windows? |
| 20:20.23 | Jamash | I'm not going to buy portal 2 |
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| 20:20.59 | wereHamster | why not? |
| 20:22.04 | Jamash | I have a valve friends and family code on my steam account |
| 20:22.04 | wereHamster | what is that? |
| 20:22.04 | Jamash | my cousin works for valve, ergo free games for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 20:22.04 | mikma | i'll report you |
| 20:22.15 | wereHamster | .. for having a cousin? :) |
| 20:22.17 | Jamash | to whom? |
| 20:22.53 | Ackis | steals Jamash's account. |
| 20:24.30 | Jamash | steals Ackis's lunch money |
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| 20:24.56 | Ackis | ~fart Jamash |
| 20:24.56 | purl | ACTION farts in Jamash's general direction |
| 20:25.02 | Ackis | hah |
| 20:25.21 | Jamash | I am stricken |
| 20:25.51 | Ackis | with deadly ackis ass gas |
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| 20:26.40 | smoke_ | is there an updated pvp trinket tracking addon other than gladius? |
| 20:26.48 | smoke_ | stand alone addon |
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| 20:27.44 | Cide | perhaps you want to specify what makes gladius a bad choice |
| 20:27.53 | Cide | and also what a stand alone addon is |
| 20:27.56 | Fisker | btw i lol'd Cide |
| 20:27.59 | Cide | do you want it to run without having world of warcraft installed? |
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| 20:28.45 | Jamash | Cide: Can I run it on the minimal universal turing machine? |
| 20:29.19 | smoke_ | heh |
| 20:29.42 | smoke_ | nothing bad about gladius, but i take it there are no other alternatives |
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| 20:34.18 | foxlit | eep. |
| 20:34.29 | foxlit | Should hook something up to recount to clear its saved variables on /reload |
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| 20:35.35 | Dagmar | Not sure you'd want to do that |
| 20:35.43 | Dagmar | Sometimes people reload hte ui in the middle of the instance to fixc something |
| 20:35.58 | Dagmar | Unless reloading *always* breaks Recount it should just ask like it does when you enter an instance |
| 20:36.16 | nebula169 | or you can just get into the habit of manually clearing it |
| 20:36.19 | foxlit | Dagmar: precisely because I might reload the UI in the middle of an instance |
| 20:36.30 | foxlit | I don't so much care about the recount data as I do about my reload time |
| 20:36.42 | foxlit | It's 20MB of luggage being serialized and unserialized just aren't worth the extra seconds. |
| 20:36.49 | foxlit | s/'// |
| 20:36.53 | nebula169 | meh |
| 20:37.07 | Dagmar | I'd jsut turn it off before reloading then |
| 20:37.17 | foxlit | Dagmar: Meh! |
| 20:37.28 | Dagmar | It doesn't even take a lot of seconds here. |
| 20:37.29 | foxlit | That's two commands you have to type :P |
| 20:37.39 | foxlit | How long does a /reload take, Dag? :) |
| 20:37.50 | Dagmar | Less than 20s |
| 20:38.11 | foxlit | 3 seconds without Recount |
| 20:38.14 | Dagmar | There's a number of things that are *way* more to blame for it taking even that long |
| 20:38.18 | Jamash | 19s is a lot of time in an instance |
| 20:38.40 | Dagmar | If you have the attention span of a fruit fly, sure. |
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| 20:38.44 | Cide | ? |
| 20:38.50 | Cide | what if you need to reload during combat |
| 20:39.00 | nebula169 | you're fucked! |
| 20:39.06 | Dagmar | Then you have done something to make the gods angry |
| 20:39.19 | Cide | hell I crashed during ascendant council due to some wow exception |
| 20:39.45 | Cide | and loading for 20s would easily double the time it takes to get back in game |
| 20:39.52 | Dagmar | Well good for you |
| 20:39.58 | Cide | indeed |
| 20:40.04 | Cide | some people don't have 20 seconds to spare on loading |
| 20:40.05 | Dagmar | Mine doesn't crash. |
| 20:40.17 | Cide | first time mine has crashed too, but it happens |
| 20:40.35 | Dagmar | Then load less addons if it's a problem for you |
| 20:40.54 | Cide | I have approximately 10 addons |
| 20:40.55 | Cide | that too many? |
| 20:41.00 | Cide | I just need to not load recount <3 |
| 20:41.01 | Dagmar | How nice for you |
| 20:41.07 | Dagmar | So don't load recount |
| 20:41.16 | Cide | my point is that you shouldn't extrapolate your own experience onto others |
| 20:41.22 | Dagmar | I didn't. |
| 20:41.34 | Cide | (21:38:21) Dagmar: There's a number of things that are *way* more to blame for it taking even that long |
| 20:41.42 | Dagmar | Yes, on MY machine. |
| 20:41.54 | nebula169 | its more likely than you think? |
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| 20:41.59 | Cide | (21:38:47) Dagmar: If you have the attention span of a fruit fly, sure. |
| 20:42.02 | Dagmar | Once again, you've reached out to be a dick about something without realizing you might be wildly misunderstanding. |
| 20:42.16 | Cide | I like being a dick, but that's not it I think |
| 20:42.46 | Dagmar | 19s is a lot of time *in combat*. Merely "in an instance" not so much. |
| 20:43.57 | Dagmar | ...and you're the one who wanted to additionally qualify it as being in combat. |
| 20:44.10 | Dagmar | In return, I'll ask what you'll do about it if you have to reload DURING A NUCLEAR WAR! |
| 20:44.14 | Ackis | cog|work: can you make me a macro to win at wow pls? |
| 20:44.18 | Dagmar | Let's see how many seconds you think are appropriate then. |
| 20:44.27 | Cide | 20 seconds would be perfectly reasonable |
| 20:45.05 | Cide | I don't think 20 seconds will make or break your escape out of the blast radius, should you know that a nuke is on its way |
| 20:46.58 | Kraps | hey all |
| 20:47.41 | Dagmar | Fucking nukes are falling from the sky and you're worrying about getting in one last boss |
| 20:47.58 | Cide | who said anything about a boss? |
| 20:48.17 | Dagmar | Hey if you're not at least getting a purple out of it you've definitely lost your mind |
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| 20:52.30 | Fisker | i just figured out something lame |
| 20:52.34 | Xyphoid | anyone seeing that bug where corpses are out of range to be looted when you're standing on them again? |
| 20:53.02 | Fisker | epics still have a higher durability even though rarity no longer determines the quality of an item |
| 20:53.45 | Kraps | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/02/how-a-song-from-the-2005-civilization-iv-won-a-2011-grammy.ars |
| 20:54.44 | Ackis | http://maldy.net/wp-content/plugins/quantovale/banners/163286us0.png |
| 20:54.47 | Ackis | lulz |
| 20:57.00 | Kraps | i heard capitalizing on a current controversy is fun http://www.darklegacycomics.com/275.jpg |
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| 20:59.11 | foxlit | Kraps: It's not quite the same without the wolves :( |
| 20:59.26 | Kraps | i know right |
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| 21:07.50 | Kraps | foxlit: he says it was unintentional http://forums.darklegacycomics.com/viewtopic.php?p=47442#47442 |
| 21:10.45 | Mihau | I love all the people whining about it. Delicious whiners. |
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| 21:13.11 | Fisker | OMG NO |
| 21:13.24 | Fisker | my wow-gm-adminreset-confirm-xmlticket-blizz.tk account was compromised |
| 21:13.26 | Fisker | noooo |
| 21:13.40 | amro | I win at last, Fisker |
| 21:14.53 | Lopeppeppy | aww, how horrible for you. |
| 21:15.51 | Kraps | you guys read about the banwith/latency stuff? |
| 21:16.15 | Jamash | yeah it's interesting |
| 21:16.33 | foxlit | "We reduce latency by using more bandwidth. Yeehaw!" |
| 21:16.38 | amro | what? |
| 21:16.42 | Jamash | makes sense to me |
| 21:17.21 | Fisker | wat foxlit ? |
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| 21:17.47 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 21:17.54 | Fisker | a satelite connection must be supported then |
| 21:17.57 | Fisker | it's broadband |
| 21:18.00 | Kraps | and they changed something then rolled it back, i dont get much of it |
| 21:18.09 | Jamash | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2065776684 |
| 21:18.46 | Jamash | and also http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1965992365?page=15#287 |
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| 21:19.26 | Fisker | i wish isp's would be less jerks |
| 21:19.31 | Fisker | like mine |
| 21:19.39 | Fisker | downloaded 100GB in a day |
| 21:19.44 | Fisker | didn't say shit about it |
| 21:19.58 | Jamash | transfer caps are communism |
| 21:20.03 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 21:20.05 | durcyn | mine didn't care until i hit 1TB in a month |
| 21:20.28 | Kraps | how can i tell if my isp has a cap? |
| 21:20.49 | Fisker | i should try that durcyn |
| 21:21.21 | durcyn | all they did was throttle me back to 4 megabits for a few weeks |
| 21:21.29 | Kraps | broadband Fisker |
| 21:21.33 | Kraps | "For sake of clarity, we go off of the FCC's official definition: 4Mbps down, sustained, and 1Mbps up, sustained." |
| 21:22.10 | Fisker | anything over 512kbps was rare as hell here a few years ago |
| 21:22.13 | Fisker | upstream that is |
| 21:23.29 | karl_w_w | the most i could download in a day is 37gb, but my net would be slowed way before that anyway |
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| 21:24.39 | mikma | damn, batman: arkham asylum goty is on huge sale. had to buy it :P |
| 21:26.24 | Kraps | where? |
| 21:27.07 | karl_w_w | i get 2.4 down and 0.7 up, but that's all optimized for latency. im sure if I changed my profile i'd get 4 down 1 up, so what qualifies in blizzard land? :P |
| 21:27.19 | Fisker | anyway durcyn that's how isp's should work |
| 21:27.43 | Fisker | instead of throttling my data, say i get x Bandwitdh a month then i get dropped down to 4Mbit if i exceed that or something |
| 21:28.33 | durcyn | as long as the caps are artificially low, that's tolerable |
| 21:28.35 | durcyn | aren't* |
| 21:28.50 | Fisker | true |
| 21:29.16 | Ackis | Shirik |
| 21:29.18 | Ackis | Cide |
| 21:29.19 | Ackis | Fisker |
| 21:29.21 | Cide | Shirik |
| 21:29.24 | Cide | Fisker |
| 21:29.25 | Cide | Ackis |
| 21:29.32 | Fisker | Cide |
| 21:29.33 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 21:29.35 | Fisker | Fisker |
| 21:29.38 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:29.43 | Ackis | I now have a http://www.wowhead.com/item=58486 |
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| 21:29.49 | karl_w_w | what do you call artificially low? |
| 21:29.58 | Ackis | I was gonna put in a 20 int/20 mastery gem |
| 21:30.38 | karl_w_w | what class is an ackis? |
| 21:30.46 | Ackis | wholly priest |
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| 21:36.19 | Jamash | disc is superior |
| 21:36.32 | Cide | lol. |
| 21:36.46 | foxlit | barrier > you |
| 21:36.47 | Cide | welcome to wrath |
| 21:36.52 | Kraps | yes Jamash |
| 21:37.02 | karl_w_w | adam sessler annoys me |
| 21:37.09 | Jamash | doesn't he annoy everyone? |
| 21:37.10 | karl_w_w | i dont know why |
| 21:37.25 | Jamash | I figured being annoying was part of his persona |
| 21:37.32 | karl_w_w | could be |
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| 21:38.30 | Kraps | http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/14/mirrors-edge-2-canned-ea-are-not-in-the-business-of-charity/ |
| 21:38.35 | Kraps | wtf man |
| 21:39.44 | Fisker | is there an addon like goldenticket that has been updated for the new ticket system? |
| 21:39.51 | Mihau | The first game was pretty bad, Kraps. |
| 21:40.31 | Kraps | Mihau: i'm sure they would have improved it |
| 21:41.18 | Fisker | i liked the first game |
| 21:41.52 | karl_w_w | did you buy the first game? :P |
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| 21:43.18 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:47.24 | Archarodim | damn!!! http://decursive.org/ virus FIFTH result on Google :-/ |
| 21:49.46 | cbreak | you call that a virus? |
| 21:50.08 | cbreak | <META content="MSHTML 6.00.6000.16587" name=GENERATOR> |
| 21:50.15 | cbreak | I call it an abomination |
| 21:50.43 | karl_w_w | 7th result on mine |
| 21:51.11 | Adys | Archarodim: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/new-chrome-extension-block-sites-from.html |
| 21:51.41 | Kraps | http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/02/14/gold-reseller-touts-fresh-colorful-design |
| 21:51.42 | cbreak | not being stupid enough to download executables and running them: priceless. |
| 21:52.05 | Adys | Archarodim: https://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/spamreport too, and hacks@blizzard.com |
| 21:54.20 | karl_w_w | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/packs/10632/default.aspx <- when you can't see your feet, you know that at some stage you're going to stand in something lethal |
| 21:54.24 | Adys | afk |
| 21:54.51 | Archarodim | I found it by accident while checking the new "Personal Blocklist" by Google for Chrome... |
| 21:55.15 | Adys | Archarodim: lol |
| 21:55.49 | Adys | Archarodim: I sent an email to cutts, they'll take care of it |
| 21:56.11 | Archarodim | What's cutts? |
| 21:57.19 | karl_w_w | contrived underground toilet ticketing system |
| 21:58.01 | Adys | Archarodim: matt cutts, lead spam team etc |
| 21:58.28 | Adys | really though afk |
| 21:59.10 | Archarodim | "Personal Blocklist" is going to be interesting about this sort of things : https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nolijncfnkgaikbjbdaogikpmpbdcdef# |
| 21:59.42 | Ackis | "and Cuba Gooding Jr. played him in a movie back when people still liked Cuba Gooding Jr." |
| 22:00.31 | Ackis | Block wowwiki.com |
| 22:00.34 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 22:00.37 | Fisker | i was about to say it Ackis :D |
| 22:00.42 | Ackis | lol |
| 22:00.43 | Fisker | also *.wikia.ccom |
| 22:02.05 | Archarodim | it's fun because they registered curse@curse.com for the admin's email: http://whois.domaintools.com/decursive.org |
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| 22:02.51 | Ackis | Archarodim: same with http://whois.domaintools.com/ackisrecipelist.com |
| 22:02.52 | Fisker | old Archarodim |
| 22:02.59 | Fisker | misdirection is so awesome |
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| 22:03.40 | Fisker | it means that entitled wannabe IT guys can make retarded claims about it on the official forums |
| 22:03.41 | Archarodim | by the way thanks Adys for the email you sent to cutts |
| 22:03.52 | Fisker | sometimes even wannabe law guys |
| 22:04.33 | Aurorus | Inspiration time: http://yvettesbridalformal.com/index.htm |
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| 22:05.35 | Fisker | mmm |
| 22:05.51 | Fisker | i can also block those retarded feed aggregation sites that take up like half my search results |
| 22:06.34 | Fisker | i'm so in love with google |
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| 22:10.23 | kneeki | haha |
| 22:10.33 | kneeki | ... wrong window -.- |
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| 22:13.21 | kneeki | How can I do: table.insert(table[subtable], entry) |
| 22:14.05 | karl_w_w | now i always thought you couldnt detect in something was marked using lua, but now that I think about it, how does prat know to put the mark next to their name? |
| 22:14.35 | Jamash | kneeki: Like that? |
| 22:14.39 | Archarodim | you can through the combat log at least |
| 22:14.59 | kneeki | Jamash: It's saying that it's nil, table does'nt exist |
| 22:15.25 | foxlit | karl_w_w: you were misinformed |
| 22:15.33 | Jamash | table[whatever] = { } |
| 22:15.37 | Jamash | then do table.insert |
| 22:15.39 | foxlit | karl_w_w: icon = GetRaidTargetIndex("unit") |
| 22:15.55 | kneeki | oh that's right |
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| 22:28.44 | Seerah | from http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2065776684 "Here are the most common causes of high pings/latency (on both Home and World): .... 4) Addons (yes, those wonderful UI modifications)" |
| 22:29.07 | Seerah | yet, it has always been my understanding that addons do not affect latency. framerate, sure. latency? |
| 22:29.24 | karl_w_w | some can |
| 22:29.42 | karl_w_w | like gearscore :P |
| 22:30.02 | karl_w_w | and addons that communicate with each other |
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| 22:30.56 | Archarodim | I found another one: http://www.wowdecursive.org but their trojan link appears to be broken... |
| 22:31.06 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 22:31.25 | amro | LOL that is gold |
| 22:31.43 | karl_w_w | hands up if you still miss damagemeters |
| 22:32.09 | amro | I love how it says "And Cataclysm" at the bottom |
| 22:35.13 | kneeki | So, if I do 'table[blah] = {}; table.insert(table[blah], data); table.insert(table[blah], data2)' then, try to count the number of entries via #table[blah], it always returns 0. How do I fix that? =\ |
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| 22:37.12 | Seerah | kneeki: does table already exist as a table before doing table[blah] = {} ? |
| 22:37.55 | kneeki | the table already exists, but I'm trying to keep each entry seperate so it's easy to layout the information |
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| 22:39.01 | kneeki | each table[blah] has two entries within it. I'd like to do a #table or something so I can return the amount of entires within the table for: table[i][1], and table[i][2] |
| 22:39.13 | mckenziemc | i don't think addons are even capable of sending enough traffic to affect latency |
| 22:39.17 | mckenziemc | since the game imposes a limit |
| 22:39.52 | amro | mckenziemc: doesn't matter, it all adds up |
| 22:40.00 | amro | comms + any async data requests |
| 22:40.35 | mckenziemc | comms no for the reason i just stated, but i hadn't considered data requests |
| 22:40.36 | Seerah | mckenziemc: in game, type /dump table[blah] |
| 22:40.52 | amro | mckenziemc: yes, dismiss it out of hand without testing anything |
| 22:41.03 | Jamash | lua> a = { { 1,2,3}, {4,5} }; print(#a[1]) |
| 22:41.06 | lua_bot | Jamash: 3 |
| 22:41.27 | kneeki | Seerah: It returns all the information. The table isn't empty, but #table returns 0 |
| 22:41.28 | mckenziemc | amro: if my statement about the limit was wrong, then say so |
| 22:41.41 | Jamash | he already did |
| 22:41.42 | Seerah | oops, meant that for kneeki :) |
| 22:41.43 | amro | there's a limit, but that doesn't mean it has no effect on latency |
| 22:41.52 | mckenziemc | but if you increase traffic by 1% of bandwidth, that's 1% of bandwidth no matter how much else is going on |
| 22:41.57 | Seerah | kneeki: are all of your indexes numeric? |
| 22:42.04 | kneeki | http://www.wowi.pastey.net/146153 |
| 22:42.12 | kneeki | I've tried numeric as well as by name |
| 22:42.15 | mckenziemc | i'm talking about practical, measurable effects |
| 22:42.15 | amro | mckenziemc: you know for a fact it's 1%? |
| 22:42.28 | amro | just like your practically measured argument that comms have no effect |
| 22:42.31 | mckenziemc | figurative.... |
| 22:42.47 | mckenziemc | as i said, "i don't think" |
| 22:42.52 | Jamash | clearly |
| 22:42.55 | mckenziemc | Jamash: no, he didn't |
| 22:42.55 | amro | if you barely have enough bandwidth for the data wow is sending, comms can slow things down |
| 22:43.06 | Torhal|work | kneeki: You cannot use # to get the table size unless it's an array |
| 22:43.11 | Seerah | kneeki: you're inserting directly into the addons table, not the addons[name] table. |
| 22:43.16 | Torhal|work | That entails consecutive numbers, starting from 1 |
| 22:43.29 | mckenziemc | "that is wrong" =/= "this specific part is wrong" |
| 22:43.32 | Seerah | you're also creating addons["MyAddon"] and addons[1]="MyAddon" |
| 22:43.59 | amro | [23:40] <mckenziemc> comms no for the reason i just stated |
| 22:44.02 | amro | that's plain wrong |
| 22:44.04 | kneeki | Oh, oops. one sec, pretty sure I just forgot to readd that code |
| 22:44.07 | kneeki | I was testing |
| 22:44.47 | kneeki | addong addons[name] to lines 13 and 14, same results. |
| 22:44.51 | mckenziemc | alright amro, what's the throughput limit on addon comms |
| 22:45.09 | mckenziemc | since you want to get technical :p |
| 22:45.18 | amro | I don't know. I'm not the one claiming it's not enough to cause a slowdown |
| 22:45.28 | Jamash | kneeki: what do you want your data structure to look like when you're done? |
| 22:45.39 | mckenziemc | you're claiming it _is_ enough to cause a slowdown |
| 22:45.45 | Seerah | kneeki: as I hinted and Torhal stated, you can't use #addons if the keys in addons are strings and not numbers |
| 22:45.46 | amro | no, I'm claiming it COULD be |
| 22:45.54 | mckenziemc | no, because you said i was wrong |
| 22:46.11 | mckenziemc | if you said "that doesn't sound right" it would be a different matter |
| 22:46.11 | amro | yes, you're wrong in saying with absolute certainty that it can't slow it down |
| 22:46.23 | amro | because I know you haven't crunched the numbers |
| 22:46.24 | mckenziemc | i didn't say that :) |
| 22:46.32 | kneeki | Seerah: Hmm, how can I go about using numbers? so # would work - if that's my best way of doing this |
| 22:46.57 | Ackis | does avg ilevel work like an average of all equipped items (except tabard/shirt) or are there weightings? |
| 22:47.07 | amro | kneeki: just use numbers starting at 1 as indices |
| 22:47.22 | kneeki | okay, i'll give that a shot |
| 22:47.31 | mckenziemc | amro: you're reading too much were you shouldn't be, and too little where you should :p |
| 22:48.00 | Seerah | kneeki: addons[i] = {name, colormemory(memory)} |
| 22:48.07 | amro | not at all. you dismissed a factor out of hand without testing, I'm just scolding you for it :P |
| 22:48.27 | kneeki | Yeeee |
| 22:48.28 | kneeki | works =) |
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| 22:48.31 | kneeki | Thanks everyone :D |
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| 22:49.43 | mckenziemc | amro: because you're assuming i'm dismissing it in a technical context |
| 22:50.02 | amro | what context is it then? |
| 22:50.41 | mckenziemc | i'm saying i don't think it's enough to have an affect in practical terms. I did not say so explicitly because I didn't think it was necessary. (And it really wasn't; if you had asked "so you're saying that it has no effect at all" i would have clarified.) |
| 22:51.33 | amro | so? you're still making assumption about the extent of the effect it has without testing it |
| 22:51.50 | amro | ie, whether or not that effect qualifies as "practically measurable" |
| 22:51.55 | kneeki | If I wanted to write a unit mouseover addon which reformats/colors the tooltip when mousing over players/npc's, I'd basically have to hooksecurefunc, see if it's over a player/npc, clear it, and then remake it, correct? |
| 22:52.40 | mckenziemc | if i said "It's going to rain today" would you assume i was 100% sure it was going to rain, and demand that i analyze all possible outcomes of the current weather patterns? |
| 22:53.08 | amro | now who's reading too much into it |
| 22:53.08 | mckenziemc | because thats' what you're doing. you're reading too much into my statement |
| 22:53.37 | amro | no, I'm not, measuring latency and guessing the weather are completely different things |
| 22:53.45 | Jamash | I think it's more someone who is standing outside, in the rain, saying "I don't think it's going to rain today" |
| 22:54.19 | mckenziemc | amro: it's called an analogy |
| 22:54.37 | amro | if only you knew the definition as well |
| 22:54.37 | mckenziemc | yet again, you're reading too much from it :) |
| 22:54.49 | amro | I think you're writing too much into it |
| 22:54.58 | Jamash | I like how smilies heal all wounds |
| 22:55.03 | mckenziemc | considering here i started from |
| 22:55.05 | Jamash | "I think you're an asshole :)" |
| 22:55.07 | mckenziemc | where* |
| 22:55.40 | amro | you started by dismissing addon comms, all I'm saying is you can't do that without testing |
| 22:56.26 | mckenziemc | yes, in a context where dismissive wording should have been acceptable until someone asked for clarification |
| 22:57.06 | Jamash | why should it be acceptable to make factual statements without evidence? |
| 22:57.15 | mckenziemc | and clarification =/= nitpicking |
| 22:57.26 | mckenziemc | because it wasn't technically factual |
| 22:57.58 | mckenziemc | if i had said "I'm sure that addons cannot affect latency at all" your case would hold |
| 22:59.17 | Jamash | "comms no for the reason i just stated" |
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| 23:01.54 | Kraps | i lold http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iUvuaChDEg&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:02.20 | mckenziemc | which was still in the casual context |
| 23:04.39 | mckenziemc | neither of my initial comments were meant to be interpreted in a rigorous context; they were without considering that possibility |
| 23:05.04 | Jamash | well, in my opinion, you're wrong, and you can't contradict that because it's just an opinion, man |
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| 23:05.36 | mckenziemc | i'm wrong in the wrong context :) |
| 23:05.47 | Jamash | your face is in the wrong context |
| 23:06.50 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 23:10.07 | Derabo | is there a way to clear the focus of an editbox if the user clicks somewhere outside the frame? |
| 23:11.54 | mckenziemc | my mom just sent a link to a page on 'californiaherps.com', which is scary because it sounds like 'herpes' >.> |
| 23:11.58 | mckenziemc | ~wiki herp |
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| 23:19.25 | amro | mckenziemc: what "case"? |
| 23:19.36 | amro | I don't understand why you're pushing this |
| 23:20.43 | mckenziemc | "Lowering video settings (especially view distance) has the added benefit of lowering the amount of data your connection is asked to convey, as well, so even that can be a valid troubleshooting step." <- doesn't the server use a constant radius to determine what info to send to you, regardless of settings? (and environmentall detail is handled solely by the client?) |
| 23:22.07 | nebula169 | xyz are client side, you request where you are, what you're looking at, and how far you can see and the server returns the info |
| 23:22.10 | Torhal|work | Derabo: One sec, I wrote some code for that |
| 23:22.25 | nebula169 | rather, you send* |
| 23:22.49 | mckenziemc | amro: i'm saying that, while i agree with you about needing to test things if i made my argument in a rigorous context, you responded to my comments as if they were when they weren't intended to be |
| 23:23.38 | Torhal|work | Derabo: http://paste.wowace.com/3251/ |
| 23:23.40 | amro | there's no context >< |
| 23:23.41 | amro | forget it |
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| 23:59.11 | Angayelle | hai peoplez |
