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| 00:28.32 | Kraps | kotakus pane on the right hasnt updated since yesterday afternoon |
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| 00:44.41 | jnwhiteh | Primer: no, you can iterate over them if you need to |
| 00:44.45 | jnwhiteh | there MIGHT be a pp function |
| 00:44.47 | jnwhiteh | but I doubt it. |
| 00:45.36 | Primer | jnwhiteh: well, normally I'd use /dump |
| 00:46.04 | Primer | in the console, but I was hoping wowlua would have a better solution |
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| 01:02.09 | Kraps | Rare Love For Mortal Kombat's Purple RainThe underrated fighter Rain shows what he’s got in this excellent Mortal Kombat fan art |
| 01:02.26 | Kraps | man kotaku keep it together! |
| 01:06.41 | Arrowmaster | encoding fail |
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| 01:16.06 | Kraps | http://www.gamepolitics.com/2011/02/09/carol-lieberman-bookstormed-over-quotgames-lead-rapequot-comment |
| 01:19.32 | cogwheel | Fisker: my chair was loose so i screwed it |
| 01:20.45 | Kraps | i hope you were gentle cogwheel |
| 01:21.02 | amro | that just sounds like a euphemism |
| 01:21.07 | cogwheel | There was a mishap with the nuts, but everything worked out fine |
| 01:22.16 | cogwheel | as soon as i plugged the holes back up |
| 01:22.53 | Kraps | amro: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitle0t9r68ih |
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| 01:25.26 | amro | cogwheel: now that sounds like furniture repair |
| 01:25.50 | cogwheel | more like cheap furniture maintenance |
| 01:27.45 | cogwheel | just sitting here playing wow, the screws are undoing... |
| 01:28.24 | amro | a) poltergeist b) you get WAY too overexcited over wow or c) ikea |
| 01:28.38 | Kraps | ^ |
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| 01:29.04 | cogwheel | c-ish |
| 01:29.19 | cogwheel | it may have been Target |
| 01:29.31 | cogwheel | i've had it since we were poor |
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| 01:32.25 | airtonix | lol |
| 01:32.38 | Adys | ugh |
| 01:32.39 | airtonix | it's ok cog |
| 01:32.40 | Adys | amro: send ( 'PONG ' + data.split() [ 1 ] + '\r\n' ) |
| 01:33.02 | Adys | im going to stuff a spacebar up that guy's ass |
| 01:33.36 | Kraps | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/02/windows-7-windows-server-2008-r2-sp1-released-to-manufacturing.ars |
| 01:34.13 | cogwheel | checks msdn |
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| 01:36.52 | cogwheel | reads the last paragraph of TFA |
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| 01:42.48 | Adys | ~ping |
| 01:42.48 | purl | ~pong |
| 01:42.58 | bluspacecow | purl take a shower ! |
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| 01:54.57 | airtonix | amro: i think adys doesn't like you anymore |
| 01:55.05 | Adys | what? |
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| 02:24.07 | SqueeG | does running windowed somehow disabled the esc key? |
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| 02:26.26 | cogwheel | not that i've encountered |
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| 02:29.08 | SqueeG | ever since the patch my escape key has stopped working |
| 02:29.23 | SqueeG | I'm even running the default UI atm >.O |
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| 02:36.51 | Cide | Shirik: !! |
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| 02:46.11 | SqueeG | ...it was photoshop |
| 02:46.42 | SinusPi | ... stuck during a file open operation? |
| 02:47.03 | SqueeG | it was screwing with my escape key |
| 02:47.11 | SqueeG | wouldn't let me use it in WoW |
| 02:47.11 | SinusPi | I had the same yesterday |
| 02:47.46 | SinusPi | and in my case photoshop was stuck in a waiting loop for some network drive to map, or something |
| 02:47.54 | SqueeG | xD |
| 02:47.56 | SinusPi | once it reawakened, ESC got back to normal. |
| 02:48.05 | SqueeG | apparently with CS4, just having it open will cause that |
| 02:48.16 | SinusPi | CS3 here, though. |
| 02:48.53 | SqueeG | i thought it was the patch |
| 02:49.00 | SqueeG | totally forgot i had anything else open >.> |
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| 03:04.50 | Cide | so fucking sick of addons breaking raid markers |
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| 03:10.20 | amro | don't give idiots raid assist |
| 03:12.45 | Cide | ?? |
| 03:12.55 | Cide | I'm getting taint issues |
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| 03:13.23 | bluspacecow | -_- my co worker just called me by mistake |
| 03:13.28 | bluspacecow | and didn't know who i was |
| 03:13.34 | bluspacecow | was all like "who are you ???" |
| 03:15.04 | mckenziemc | who -are- you, blu? |
| 03:15.32 | bluspacecow | i .. |
| 03:15.34 | bluspacecow | i .... |
| 03:15.34 | cogwheel | did you get all existential on him/her? |
| 03:15.37 | bluspacecow | don't lnow /cry |
| 03:15.42 | bluspacecow | *know |
| 03:15.47 | bluspacecow | nah |
| 03:15.52 | bluspacecow | i was all like Yoda |
| 03:16.06 | bluspacecow | Hmmmm Your Father am I |
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| 03:26.30 | Kraps | hemad http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=da126701-368d-4e39-8476-981ddbbf687b |
| 03:31.45 | mckenziemc | ~umad |
| 03:31.45 | purl | ACTION primes a weapon of Universal Mutual Assured Destruction. |
| 03:33.09 | Kraps | nice |
| 03:33.29 | Cide | umad? |
| 03:36.34 | Kraps | Man Dies After Freak Accident on Set of 'NCIS' |
| 03:36.39 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.23 | darklogic | anyone do maloriak tonight ? |
| 03:38.30 | amro | Kraps: link |
| 03:38.55 | Kraps | http://www.tmz.com/2011/02/09/death-died-dies-accident-ncis-cbs-security-guard-crash-stroke/ |
| 03:39.22 | Wobin | worst seo ever =P |
| 03:40.04 | Adys | yeah wtf is up with that |
| 03:40.13 | Adys | who puts tags in slugs |
| 03:40.27 | Kraps | ? |
| 03:40.37 | amro | I think that's the first time someone who's not a petty officer dies on NCIS. |
| 03:40.50 | Kraps | too soon |
| 03:40.53 | Kraps | :p |
| 03:41.28 | amro | it would be if anyone in here knew him |
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| 03:43.05 | Kraps | Apple Mobile Device service isnt starting, halp |
| 03:44.14 | Kraps | i did the un/reinstall already |
| 03:47.00 | kd3 | whee; an entirely plausible threat in greater atlanta tonight: "No school today for snow." YAAAAY!" "So you'll have to go to school on Saturday." "BOOOO!" [Sad] |
| 03:49.51 | kd3 | also; wow, blizz |
| 03:49.57 | kd3 | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2046736421?page=5#91 |
| 03:51.13 | mckenziemc | doh |
| 03:53.00 | Sixen | =/ |
| 03:59.32 | Dagmar | That snow *bumrushed* Nashville |
| 03:59.55 | Seerah | how much did you guys get, Dagmar? |
| 04:00.15 | Dagmar | Driving home a 10mph on the interstate felt like driving down a gravel road, so many chunks of frozen |
| 04:00.23 | Dagmar | ABout two inches |
| 04:00.33 | Dagmar | It all came down in about 45 minutes too. |
| 04:00.50 | Dagmar | ...or at least, most of it did. It completely overwhelmed the brine |
| 04:02.10 | Dagmar | My 15m drive home took about two hours |
| 04:04.16 | Dagmar | The stuff came down about 3/4 frozen to begin with, and I'm probably not going to be going into the office tomorrow |
| 04:04.31 | Dagmar | ...at least not until the sun has had at it some. |
| 04:05.32 | Kraps | http://ll-media.tmz.com/2011/02/07/0207-selena-bieber-flynet-credit.jpg |
| 04:07.46 | mckenziemc | so much for global warming! :O |
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| 04:11.41 | Kraps | why are 9 year olds commenting on tmz |
| 04:11.56 | Wobin | because they love bieber? |
| 04:12.14 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 04:12.25 | mckenziemc | ~irc |
| 04:12.26 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 04:12.33 | Kraps | yeah but tmz? WHERE ARE THE PARENTS |
| 04:12.37 | mckenziemc | ^ perhaps that applies to tmz too |
| 04:12.42 | Kraps | :p |
| 04:14.39 | Kraps | so when is pedophilia not pedophilia? |
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| 04:15.34 | amro | when it's not spelled paedophilia |
| 04:15.38 | Kraps | like, if they did the deed, would she be breaking the law? |
| 04:19.16 | Kraps | yay apple mobile device is back! |
| 04:19.45 | Kraps | i'm serious about that question |
| 04:21.00 | amro | what are you talking about? |
| 04:21.22 | Kraps | bieber and gomez |
| 04:21.30 | Kraps | hes 16 and shes 18 |
| 04:21.51 | amro | I don't follow stupid news, and yes it would be illegal |
| 04:21.59 | Kraps | nice |
| 04:22.55 | Kraps | any type of sexual contact? |
| 04:23.11 | Kraps | or just the act of sex? |
| 04:24.26 | amro | I'm fairly certain any kind of inappropriate touching could count, but I'm no lawyer |
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| 04:25.36 | Kraps | isnt "inappropriate" kinda vague? |
| 04:25.37 | amro | but then he'd have to admit to it |
| 04:25.57 | amro | hence "I'm no lawyer", I'm pretty sure there's a lengthy legal definition |
| 04:26.18 | amro | they gave bill clinton a lengthy definition for sexual contact before he testified |
| 04:26.52 | Corrodias | every country has its own laws. sometimes regions smaller than that have specific ones, too. |
| 04:28.57 | karl_w_w | woo lucky i checked my message before hitting enter there |
| 04:29.56 | karl_w_w | it is illegal in most places I think, but it's the sort of thing that doesn't get prosecuted unless it's part of a bigger offence <- see not with caps lock on |
| 04:31.10 | amro | if he was 12 prosecutors would be on it regardless, but 16-18... they wouldn't bother unless there was a complaint |
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| 04:33.45 | airtonix | amro: i find you inappropriate |
| 04:33.59 | airtonix | but it's ok |
| 04:34.09 | airtonix | because we are both consenting adults |
| 04:36.44 | Computerpunk | wat if I ain't a consenting adult |
| 04:36.45 | Computerpunk | ? |
| 04:36.50 | airtonix | thats ok |
| 04:37.01 | Computerpunk | YOU FIND ME INAPPROPRIATE? <3 |
| 04:37.02 | airtonix | because i'm not consorting with peasants |
| 04:37.14 | Computerpunk | maaan. |
| 04:37.22 | Computerpunk | You find me appropriate in an inappropriate way. <3 |
| 04:37.28 | Computerpunk | amirite? |
| 04:37.33 | airtonix | no |
| 04:37.46 | Computerpunk | then. |
| 04:37.51 | Computerpunk | WHERE'S FISKER? |
| 04:38.42 | mckenziemc | my pants |
| 04:39.18 | Computerpunk | k man, I stop. but give my fisker back. :<<< |
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| 04:39.42 | Computerpunk | is bringing Fisker back. Dem other boys don't know how to act. |
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| 04:43.57 | Scotepi | I'm looking for a simple UI tamplate for displaying a table on screen, I was thinking of using the Guild Roster template however I cant find it in FrameXML |
| 04:44.54 | Kraps | http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs |
| 04:47.40 | Torhal | Scotepi: It's in the AddOns section |
| 04:47.55 | Scotepi | all i have is a .pub |
| 04:48.07 | Scotepi | doh. rofl |
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| 05:01.18 | Kraps | http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm#below |
| 05:01.22 | Kraps | ah |
| 05:01.28 | Kraps | http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm |
| 05:02.05 | Kraps | http://www.smashingapps.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/reason-why-computer-user-seems-to-have-spare-time.jpg |
| 05:02.54 | Adys | Kraps: that was a hilarious post (about js hashbangs) |
| 05:03.12 | Adys | very satisfying |
| 05:04.48 | Kraps | Adys: digg really did take a dive after it changed yeah? |
| 05:05.13 | Adys | i dont know i didn't even remember digg existed |
| 05:06.19 | Kraps | according to google trend they're about even with reddit now |
| 05:07.23 | Adys | http://www.google.com/trends?q=digg%2C+reddit |
| 05:07.26 | Adys | you call that even? |
| 05:08.08 | Kraps | relatively :p |
| 05:08.17 | Corrodias | maybe more people just remember the URL for digg than for reddit. |
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| 05:10.02 | Adys | haha man that blog post is so satisfying |
| 05:10.40 | ShaunDreclin | ? |
| 05:10.49 | Adys | [04:44:54] <Kraps> http://isolani.co.uk/blog/javascript/BreakingTheWebWithHashBangs |
| 05:10.53 | Adys | i keep re-reading it |
| 05:11.03 | Adys | thinking "suck it. suck it. suck it. suck it." |
| 05:11.25 | ShaunDreclin | hahaha |
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| 05:13.10 | Kraps | so if theres an NFL lockout, heres the sport that should replace it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXaDvcXTwJA&feature=related NSFW |
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| 05:17.25 | amro | so, any electricians around? got a problem with a PSU |
| 05:17.36 | amro | basically it's a PSU hooked up to a 12v motor via a potentiometer |
| 05:17.59 | amro | hooking up only 6v from the PSU works, but hooking up 12v and cranking up the potentiometer causes it to crash |
| 05:18.08 | amro | any idea exactly why, and how to work around it? |
| 05:18.42 | mckenziemc | uhm, doesn't turning on a PSU with minimal load damage it? |
| 05:18.53 | Adys | amro: "crash"? |
| 05:18.56 | amro | I think that's the problem |
| 05:19.03 | amro | yeah it stops working until you reset it |
| 05:19.06 | amro | likely a safety mechanism |
| 05:19.15 | Adys | sounds like it |
| 05:19.50 | amro | I guess you need to dump the current elsewhere like a capacitor? |
| 05:19.52 | Adys | but yea as mcclapyohandz said, PSUs are not made for such low load |
| 05:20.00 | Adys | what are you using it for? |
| 05:20.10 | amro | not me |
| 05:20.17 | amro | but it's for a motorized arcade machine |
| 05:20.21 | Adys | i've no doubt you're not using it on yourself |
| 05:20.32 | Corrodias | JavaScript is a terrible thing |
| 05:20.38 | Corrodias | why would you put MORE of it on your site? |
| 05:20.53 | mckenziemc | don't remember where i heard that, but apparently the switching circuits need a load |
| 05:20.53 | kd3 | because their web devs are idiots? |
| 05:21.05 | Corrodias | durr |
| 05:21.24 | amro | yes, could a capacitor draw that extra load? and would it be configurable with the potentiometer? |
| 05:21.32 | Arrowmaster | you want to use a resistor |
| 05:21.34 | amro | Shirik: you know circuits iirc, any ideas? |
| 05:21.39 | mckenziemc | what arromaster said |
| 05:21.41 | Arrowmaster | not a capacitor |
| 05:21.54 | amro | isn't a potentiometer just a variable resistor? |
| 05:22.02 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue what that is |
| 05:22.05 | Adys | Corrodias: user-end javascript is great if done right. and by "right" i mean "hacked up to the point it becomes sane" |
| 05:22.05 | mckenziemc | yeah |
| 05:22.08 | amro | it's a variable resistor, |
| 05:22.25 | amro | and where would I use the resistor in your design? |
| 05:22.28 | mckenziemc | but you have it in serial right? |
| 05:22.34 | mckenziemc | you might need it in parallel |
| 05:22.35 | amro | iirc I need to draw more, not less |
| 05:22.40 | Arrowmaster | this is a computer PSU you are using? |
| 05:22.48 | amro | yes |
| 05:22.52 | Corrodias | heheh |
| 05:22.58 | mckenziemc | well the point is you need a parallel circuit, but dont' want a short circuit |
| 05:23.01 | mckenziemc | hence a resistor |
| 05:23.05 | Arrowmaster | so youve jumped pin 16 with one of the ground pins? |
| 05:23.12 | Arrowmaster | like 15 |
| 05:23.22 | Arrowmaster | use a resistor there |
| 05:23.32 | amro | I'm not the one doing it I'd have to ask for details, but i know he's using 2x6v |
| 05:23.51 | amro | are you talking about the mobo connector? |
| 05:23.59 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 05:24.02 | amro | I think he's using the 4pins |
| 05:24.16 | amro | the ones that take forever to plug and unplug |
| 05:24.20 | Arrowmaster | but this doesnt sound like a computer PSU at all, since you mention 6v |
| 05:24.23 | amro | and the leading cause of calloused fingers |
| 05:24.26 | amro | yes |
| 05:24.30 | amro | the yellow lines are 6v |
| 05:24.39 | mckenziemc | molex |
| 05:24.40 | Arrowmaster | computer PSUs dont have a 6v |
| 05:24.41 | amro | that much I know, I macguyvered a pcie connector |
| 05:25.05 | mckenziemc | i thought it was 3, 5, and 12 |
| 05:25.12 | Corrodias | mmm yes, 3, 5, and 12 |
| 05:25.23 | amro | oh wait it's 12 |
| 05:25.33 | Arrowmaster | +3.3, +5, +12, and -12 |
| 05:25.49 | cbreak | making 6 out of 12 volt is easy. |
| 05:25.57 | amro | you split the cable in half! |
| 05:26.03 | mckenziemc | hah |
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| 05:26.16 | Corrodias | you put 50 ohms of resistance on it, because that will reduce it by 50%! |
| 05:26.35 | cbreak | you put 50 ohms of resistance on it... and then another 50 ohms! |
| 05:26.40 | amro | Corrodias: multiplicative! 0.5ohms |
| 05:26.50 | cbreak | the voltage over one of those resistors will be 6 volts:) |
| 05:27.12 | amro | yeah okay we have to stop the sarcasm because I don't remember much of this stuff |
| 05:27.16 | cbreak | (until you try to use it) |
| 05:27.29 | amro | 6v until I try to use it? is it a schrodinger resistor? |
| 05:27.35 | amro | sorry I couldn't resist. |
| 05:27.36 | Corrodias | i liked the splitting the wire in half one the best. |
| 05:28.12 | Adys | it's Schrödinger or Schroedinger |
| 05:28.16 | Adys | not Schrodinger |
| 05:28.26 | cbreak | U = R * I |
| 05:28.29 | Corrodias | i like to spell it Shraydiner |
| 05:28.57 | amro | Adys: says the guy who doesn't use french accents even though he has them on his layou |
| 05:28.59 | Adys | i like to spell it gros-dinger but that only makes sense in french |
| 05:29.02 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJTfNIPGhlQ |
| 05:29.48 | mckenziemc | amro: as soon as you connect another load to it, the voltages change :p |
| 05:30.29 | Adys | amro: there is always an alternative spelling to an accentuated word. Most of the time it's non-accentuated, but in hungarian and similar languages, ö becomes oe |
| 05:30.39 | amro | yes |
| 05:30.41 | amro | I know |
| 05:30.43 | amro | I just don't give a fuck |
| 05:30.51 | greppy | just spells the name of the cat as "Pixel" |
| 05:30.52 | Adys | you sell a fuck instead? |
| 05:30.56 | mckenziemc | ah sorry i see what happende |
| 05:31.11 | Adys | i don't think that's legal |
| 05:31.11 | amro | mckenziemc: that was in response to adys |
| 05:31.12 | Corrodias | attach +12v end of battery to -12v end of same battery, achieve 24v. |
| 05:31.24 | Adys | amro: no you weren't |
| 05:31.35 | kd3 | winces |
| 05:31.51 | mckenziemc | ~brand kd3 |
| 05:32.02 | amro | mckenziemc: only in series though? |
| 05:32.11 | mckenziemc | depends |
| 05:32.24 | amro | what would drop the voltage in parallel? |
| 05:32.42 | mckenziemc | if the load goes 'around' an existing resistor, it will change one way, if the load goes in between, it'll change a different way |
| 05:33.11 | amro | no I know I'd need a resistor for each path |
| 05:33.30 | mckenziemc | basically if you simplified the circuit into a set of resistors in series, the voltage drop is distributed evenly over each ohm |
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| 05:33.59 | amro | right, but the circuit is "how do I tweak the potentiometer without crashing the psu |
| 05:34.23 | Adys | man. |
| 05:34.25 | Adys | Gawker/Lifehacker have violated the principle of progressive enhancement, and they paid for it immediately with an extended outage on day one of their new site launch. Every JavaScript hiccup will cause an outage, and directly affect Gawkerâs revenue stream and the trust of their audience. |
| 05:34.31 | mckenziemc | you need a load that bypasses the potentiometer and motor |
| 05:34.37 | Adys | I'm imagining the face of their marketing guys reading that |
| 05:34.45 | mckenziemc | how much resistance the load needs i know not |
| 05:34.45 | Corrodias | split a 12v wire in two, connect both wires to a light bulb, double power output for free. |
| 05:35.23 | amro | mckenziemc: I'd imagine inversely proportional to the first potentiometer? |
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| 05:35.30 | mckenziemc | just plug the 24 pin connector into a motherboard and add a couple hard drives |
| 05:35.41 | mckenziemc | the formula is funky, i don't recall how it works though |
| 05:35.42 | Arrowmaster | Adys: note the very bottom of that page, now all referrer headers from gawker sites only mention the homepage and not the page |
| 05:35.48 | Adys | yeah |
| 05:35.52 | amro | mckenziemc: I don't need specifics, just ballpark it |
| 05:35.53 | Adys | the whole article is rofl |
| 05:35.58 | amro | a poke in the right direciton |
| 05:36.15 | mckenziemc | lemme check wikipedia |
| 05:36.20 | mckenziemc | ~wiki Resistance |
| 05:36.22 | amro | but I'm already doing that |
| 05:36.24 | amro | ! |
| 05:36.51 | mckenziemc | actually |
| 05:36.53 | amro | here's how I understand it |
| 05:37.02 | amro | the voltage is applied equally in parallel |
| 05:37.09 | mckenziemc | i'm guessing that every rail in the PSU has to have sufficient load |
| 05:37.10 | amro | and I need to make sure there's always a 12v draw from the PSU |
| 05:37.48 | mckenziemc | which complicates things and i don't know enough to help you :( |
| 05:37.50 | amro | so, if I lower the voltage to the motor, I need to increase the voltage to the other branch to make up for the reduction |
| 05:38.10 | Corrodias | oh, um, power supplies don't wake up unless they have a certain circuit shorted |
| 05:38.13 | mckenziemc | don't think of it in terms of changing voltages, |
| 05:38.16 | Corrodias | i remember that much. |
| 05:38.23 | amro | it's starting up just fine |
| 05:38.32 | amro | voltage is the easiest thing to control |
| 05:38.45 | Corrodias | well, it's not supposed to unless you have that pin grounded or whatever. i sure don't know which one. |
| 05:38.45 | amro | well, to reduce at least |
| 05:38.54 | amro | I'd imagine he has that setup |
| 05:43.20 | Kraps | http://video.foxnews.com/v/4530177/ |
| 05:43.41 | amro | mckenziemc: what would a load be then? something that doesn't heat much hopefully |
| 05:44.28 | Kraps | fox has the hottest female anchors |
| 05:44.46 | amro | would explain why people tune it |
| 05:44.53 | amro | still doesn't explain why people watch papa bear |
| 05:45.46 | Kraps | thats pretty obscure amro |
| 05:45.59 | amro | you don't watch colbert :( |
| 05:46.38 | Kraps | never have, i like stewart |
| 05:46.49 | amro | so do I |
| 05:46.54 | amro | also holy shit kraps |
| 05:47.01 | amro | is she hosting E!? |
| 05:47.11 | Kraps | hmm? |
| 05:47.45 | amro | the makeup |
| 05:48.07 | Kraps | yeah, with the half-closed eyes |
| 05:52.04 | Kraps | hotfixes http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/2259389 |
| 05:52.18 | amro | no relation to hot anchors |
| 05:52.59 | mckenziemc | amro: resistors are the simplest load; but conservation of energy says any load has to convert the electricity to some other form. |
| 05:53.03 | mckenziemc | which is usually heat |
| 05:53.15 | amro | yes, a resistor would heat quickly |
| 05:53.21 | Kraps | amro: also cleavage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_max27Qx7s |
| 05:53.37 | amro | I'm reading up, it seems that capacitors are sometimes used to block current |
| 05:53.41 | amro | but not indefinitely |
| 05:53.56 | amro | basically need a "current sink" |
| 05:54.30 | mckenziemc | think of it this way: all the power your computer uses is turned into heat |
| 05:54.44 | mckenziemc | minus the light from its power led (and i'm not counting the monitor) |
| 05:55.00 | amro | I'm aware, but that doesn't help me here |
| 05:55.12 | amro | hooking up a wire resistor heater would be a fire hasard |
| 05:55.50 | mckenziemc | are you trying to use the PSU as a temporary or permanent 'hack' ? |
| 05:56.01 | amro | as a permanent power source |
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| 05:56.58 | mckenziemc | :( |
| 05:57.07 | mckenziemc | i assumed it was temporary |
| 05:59.48 | Kraps | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/about/b20/ |
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| 06:04.43 | mckenziemc | amro: you said this was for a 12v motor for an arcade game machine, right? |
| 06:05.30 | mckenziemc | ~wiki molex |
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| 06:07.18 | amro | mckenziemc: yes |
| 06:07.48 | amro | the problem is that reducing the voltage to the motor to slow it down kills the PSU, so it needs something else to pick up the slack |
| 06:08.18 | mckenziemc | hmm, you might be able to use the power supplies that come with hard drive adapters -- the things you use to connect a (normally) internal drive without actually putting it in the computer (it uses usb) |
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| 06:08.47 | mckenziemc | idk where mine went so i can't check how many watts it's rated for |
| 06:09.28 | amro | I can't discuss alternative sources, I'm just trying to help someone else |
| 06:09.33 | amro | either way I'd like to figure it out |
| 06:10.08 | amro | my theory is to have two branches with potentiometers and 12v draws, and whenever I crank up one potentiometer I turn the other one down |
| 06:10.17 | amro | so that there's always a ~12V draw |
| 06:10.18 | mckenziemc | well if you use a regular power supply, i think it's going to be highly inefficient, because of needing the extra load |
| 06:10.38 | amro | I just want to know if I understand it correctly |
| 06:10.47 | mckenziemc | there will always be a 12V draw, its a # of amps you need :p |
| 06:11.16 | mckenziemc | err, trivial correction, that doesn't change what you said so disregard |
| 06:11.22 | amro | :P |
| 06:11.25 | mckenziemc | that might work |
| 06:13.03 | mckenziemc | keep in mind your second branch is going to produce the same amount of heat as if you just used a potentiometer alone; you just get more surface area for the heat to dissipate (sp) |
| 06:13.03 | batbot | mckenziemc, dissipate is correct. |
| 06:13.48 | mckenziemc | are you going to be changing the motor speed frequently, or just once to 'tune' it? |
| 06:14.29 | mckenziemc | actually.... does your potentiometer have three pins? |
| 06:14.41 | amro | it's not mine I don't have any of this in front of me |
| 06:15.03 | mckenziemc | it probably will -- the resistance between two of the three pins should be constant |
| 06:15.39 | mckenziemc | in that case you wouldn't need a second potentiometer |
| 06:15.49 | amro | and I don't know if it changes frequently or not, I just received a problem in an IM at 6 in the morning and I'll be damned if I sleep before solving it |
| 06:15.57 | mckenziemc | hah |
| 06:17.18 | mckenziemc | depending on the resistance of the potentiometer, you could just connect the two 'end' terminals to the power source, and the motor between the 'middle' pin and either side of teh power source |
| 06:18.06 | mckenziemc | i think that will always produce a constant amperage load over the source, but i'm not sure |
| 06:19.26 | amro | no, or it would work as-is wouldn't it? |
| 06:19.35 | amro | oh |
| 06:19.37 | amro | nevermind |
| 06:19.44 | amro | yeah actually that might work |
| 06:19.58 | amro | that's essentially the same thing only with less elements |
| 06:23.12 | mckenziemc | just make sure you know the full resistance of the potentiometer and that the corresponding amperage is within the power supply's limits |
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| 06:24.57 | mckenziemc | and this is assuming one loaded rail is enough to satisfy the power supply |
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| 06:28.51 | amro | mckenziemc: it is, when the potentiometer is low it works |
| 06:35.40 | Adys | sweet dual screens of philippines |
| 06:35.50 | Adys | got dual monitor working with nouveau |
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| 06:40.35 | Adys | self.connection.connected().connect(onConnect) |
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| 06:45.31 | airtonix | mckenziemc: i'll except you |
| 06:45.42 | airtonix | using BaboonError |
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| 06:45.47 | Adys | beh |
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| 07:29.57 | Corrodias | that's what SHE said |
| 07:29.59 | Corrodias | wink wink nudge nudge |
| 07:32.53 | mckenziemc | no Fisker, but I killed you |
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| 07:41.21 | mckenziemc | hello ~ponies |
| 07:44.47 | Corrodias | i'd say something witty |
| 07:44.49 | Corrodias | but that would require wit |
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| 07:47.05 | Fisker | don't you just hate it when mckenziemc breaks into your home while you're asleep and reboots your computer? |
| 07:47.18 | mckenziemc | yes, i do |
| 07:47.46 | mckenziemc | you wouldn't believe the travel expense |
| 07:49.22 | Fisker | mckenziemc though |
| 07:49.22 | dcde | does anyone know what the api call is to find out if you are valor/justice capped? |
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| 07:56.34 | mckenziemc | !api GetCurrencyListInfo |
| 07:56.34 | lua_bot | GetCurrencyListInfo: Returns information about a currency type (or headers in the Currency UI) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrencyListInfo) |
| 07:57.09 | mckenziemc | select(8, GetCurrencyListInfo(396)) i think |
| 07:57.49 | Elkano | mckenziemc, no, argument is an index, not an id |
| 07:57.49 | mckenziemc | hmm it returned nil on my lowbie huntard :( |
| 07:57.57 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 07:58.25 | mckenziemc | i had looked at GetCurrencyInfo first and overlooked that >.> |
| 07:58.37 | Elkano | dito ^^ |
| 08:00.54 | Shirik | I can't tell if quicken fails or if I'm about to die |
| 08:01.00 | Shirik | I set up a retirement plan |
| 08:01.32 | Shirik | "Your plan fails. Your estimate indicates that your investments are depleted in 2011, 57 years before the end of your plan." |
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| 08:21.01 | zenzio | placebo, it's effective |
| 08:23.24 | mckenziemc | ugh, the dust cloud that appears when you dismount now is annoying >.> |
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| 08:34.57 | zenzio | well hello there! http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/06286954-229b-4758-84fe-9bdaf5bad769.jpg |
| 08:36.21 | mitch0 | zezio: fu |
| 08:37.09 | mitch0 | ~seen kagaro |
| 08:37.16 | purl | kagaro is currently on #wowace (1d 4h 11m 36s), last said: 'btw anyone know how well springs scales?'. |
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| 09:29.58 | mckenziemc | "Moving 1337 Items" |
| 09:33.37 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:36.04 | mckenziemc | slaps Fisker around a bit with 1337 files |
| 09:36.56 | zenzio | http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/14f87510-1f7e-4069-8a2f-e28090b93962.jpg |
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| 10:16.07 | mckenziemc | "Compiled Java class files (bytecode) start with hex CAFEBABE. When compressed with Pack200 the bytes are changed to CAFED00D." |
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| 10:17.49 | bluspacecow | lol |
| 10:21.34 | bluspacecow | this made me think of tekkub -> http://pastebin.com/CGRxmUZb |
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| 10:26.35 | mckenziemc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_%28programming%29#Magic_debug_values |
| 10:27.10 | tekkub | I usually put in just a little A1 for flavour |
| 10:27.25 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 10:28.11 | bluspacecow | A1 ? |
| 10:28.15 | bluspacecow | wot dat ? |
| 10:28.27 | mckenziemc | sauce |
| 10:28.30 | mckenziemc | ~wiki A1 |
| 10:28.41 | mckenziemc | or marinade or w.e it's called |
| 10:29.05 | mckenziemc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A1_Steak_Sauce |
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| 10:29.24 | mckenziemc | hands Cairenn a keyboard. |
| 10:29.31 | bluspacecow | http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/2978624/2/LOLZ%20FROM%20DEBS/10%20Feb?h=37a5d8 |
| 10:29.40 | Cairenn | chuckles |
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| 10:31.28 | bluspacecow | my fav is the crocidile one |
| 10:32.08 | bluspacecow | https://photos-5.dropbox.com/i/o/qOixjngwn1s6SN9N8wSxNtoBvrq8XLNVQHxD5LTSbJE/2978624/1297422000/eff4150 |
| 10:37.28 | Fisker | Didn't Blizzard say they made the demon hunter reveal for Blizzcon using the Starcraft 2 engine and editor? |
| 10:38.57 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:39.13 | mckenziemc | ~keyboard Fisker. |
| 10:39.13 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker. around a bit with a keyboard. |
| 10:39.23 | mckenziemc | s/er./er/ |
| 10:39.29 | bluspacecow | http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/magicdustp1.gif |
| 10:39.41 | bluspacecow | for you fisker |
| 10:40.14 | Fisker | answer me bluspacecow |
| 10:40.22 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 10:42.26 | Fisker | i'm pretty sure i recall them saying that they had to use the starcraft 2 engine for rendering the Demon Hunter reveal trailer :o |
| 10:43.19 | bluspacecow | oh blizzcon stuff |
| 10:43.25 | bluspacecow | i can't remember it >_> |
| 10:43.31 | bluspacecow | it was all too loud and hard to get seats |
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| 11:57.38 | airtonix | Fisker: therefor? |
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| 12:02.00 | airtonix | Shirik: http://www.iquilezles.org/apps/shadertoy/ |
| 12:02.18 | airtonix | requires a WebGL-enabled browser. |
| 12:07.34 | zenzio | http://bluntcard.com/images/1275516509awake.gif |
| 12:09.20 | airtonix | lold |
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| 12:17.04 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 12:17.20 | Fisker | my fucking server case was sent |
| 12:17.25 | Fisker | just sucks that i have nothing to put in it |
| 12:17.35 | airtonix | yourself? |
| 12:18.38 | zenzio | "Fray, a sci-fi turn-based, multiplayer, real-time strategy game for Windows and OS X planned for release later this year, explaining the strategy genre blending by saying it "eliminates the waiting involved with most turn-based games by introducing simultaneous play."" |
| 12:18.43 | zenzio | say what? |
| 12:19.01 | airtonix | you play by postal mail |
| 12:19.16 | airtonix | and you avoid the waiting by doing something else |
| 12:24.27 | zenzio | apparently, popularity on the Internet is now measured in percentages of Justin Bieber: http://www.businessinsider.com/most-popular-people-on-the-internet-2011-1?slop=1 |
| 12:34.58 | zenzio | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/average_asian_aging_process.jpg |
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| 12:50.17 | Kraftman | anyone know whats going on with cancelunitbuff now? |
| 12:57.49 | airtonix | zenzio: lol eminem looks like linux torvald |
| 12:57.54 | airtonix | linus |
| 12:58.12 | airtonix | ah fuck it he looks like a penguin |
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| 13:18.58 | keymone | yo, is there somewhere a quick tutorial about implementing configuration for my addon? |
| 13:19.24 | keymone | with as few dependencies as possible |
| 13:20.47 | Kraftman | what kind of configuration? |
| 13:20.58 | Kraftman | GUI or slash commands? |
| 13:21.00 | keymone | like few checkbox and text inputs |
| 13:21.04 | keymone | gui |
| 13:21.09 | keymone | checkboxes* |
| 13:22.13 | Kraftman | make a frame, add all of the checkboxes etc you want to it |
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| 13:22.45 | Kraftman | then give it a frame.name |
| 13:22.58 | Kraftman | and then InterfaceOptions_AddCategory(frame) |
| 13:23.50 | Kraftman | that will add it into the addons category of the interface options |
| 13:23.51 | keymone | ok that makes sense, where can i read about adding checkboxes and storing addon config data? |
| 13:24.14 | Fisker | blows up jnwhiteh |
| 13:24.18 | Kraftman | ChatConfigCheckButtonTemplate is a checkbox you can inherit |
| 13:24.35 | Kraftman | and storing config data needs to be done using savedvariables |
| 13:25.04 | Kraftman | which means you need to define a global table to use in your .toc, and then make your config edit the values in the table |
| 13:25.41 | keymone | ok, thanks |
| 13:25.48 | Kraftman | give it a name that wont clash with other names |
| 13:26.18 | keymone | it's shared with all other saved variables? it's not per-addon? |
| 13:26.31 | Kraftman | eg "myawesomeaddonssavedvariables" is better than "Config" |
| 13:26.39 | keymone | ok |
| 13:26.47 | Kraftman | well it has to be global to be saved |
| 13:27.22 | keymone | also i'm kind of sick restarting wow everytime i change few lines in my addon |
| 13:27.30 | Kraftman | just /reload |
| 13:27.37 | keymone | is there a better way of reloading addons? |
| 13:27.51 | keymone | but does it reload addon from file? |
| 13:28.04 | Kraftman | as long as you arent changing the .toc or adding new files, /reload will reload the whole interface |
| 13:28.06 | keymone | i thought it caches or something |
| 13:28.09 | Kraftman | including any changes |
| 13:28.16 | keymone | oh ok |
| 13:28.24 | Kraftman | you also cant add new textures is |
| 13:28.33 | Kraftman | unless they have the same name as old ones |
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| 13:29.05 | keymone | thanks a lot, cheers |
| 13:29.15 | Kraftman | np |
| 13:30.44 | Nobgul | keymone, If your making lot's of changes i suggest that you create a few empty files and refrence them in your toc, so that you can add to them and /realod without having to exit wow. Just remember to cleen them up when your done. |
| 13:30.58 | keymone | another kind of tricky question |
| 13:31.14 | keymone | is there a way to make addon pixelperfect without messing with ui scale? |
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| 13:32.26 | keymone | thanks Nobgul, i'll keep it in mind |
| 13:32.47 | Kraftman | whats the addon? |
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| 13:33.06 | keymone | shud |
| 13:34.51 | Nobgul | oh i see what u did thur |
| 13:35.26 | Jerub | i want an archy update :( |
| 13:36.06 | Nobgul | isnt there a fix for it in plugin patches |
| 13:36.10 | keymone | Nobgul huh? wasn't me |
| 13:36.33 | Jerub | Nobgul: in the who what now? |
| 13:36.41 | Nobgul | you forced set the ui scale with cvars. |
| 13:36.45 | Nobgul | Jerub, 1 sec |
| 13:36.47 | keymone | yes |
| 13:37.06 | Nobgul | Jerub, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19411-Archybugfix.html |
| 13:37.07 | keymone | i need that freaking border to be 1 pizel :) |
| 13:37.12 | keymone | pixel* |
| 13:37.25 | Nobgul | why? |
| 13:37.32 | keymone | otherwise it makes me sad |
| 13:37.39 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 13:37.54 | foxlit | get rid of the border, problem solved :) |
| 13:37.56 | Nobgul | How bad does it look otherwise? |
| 13:37.59 | keymone | no :P |
| 13:38.05 | Nobgul | foxlit, !!! thank you. |
| 13:38.19 | Fisker | foxlit |
| 13:38.28 | foxlit | Nobgul Fisker: ? |
| 13:38.50 | Nobgul | couldn't you use a function to get the size of the ui scale then set a diff border size dependant on the ui scale? |
| 13:39.05 | Jerub | Nobgul: ty, :) |
| 13:39.19 | Nobgul | Jerub, NP |
| 13:39.53 | keymone | hmm |
| 13:40.00 | keymone | i'll try to make something out of it |
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| 13:40.47 | zenzio | aren't edge files pixel perfect, or do those get stretched too? |
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| 13:42.35 | Kraftman | i think they are yeh |
| 13:43.16 | Nobgul | Honestly have no clue i fail at graphics. The one wo ask would be lulia |
| 13:43.29 | Kraftman | keymone: you could cut up your texture so that the edges dont scale with the ui |
| 13:43.48 | keymone | i just want it to be as simple and lightweight as possible |
| 13:43.48 | Kraftman | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_SetBackdrop |
| 13:44.24 | Nobgul | keymone, complex doesn't mean it won't be lightwight. |
| 13:44.48 | foxlit | Newsflash: everything is "lightweight" |
| 13:44.48 | keymone | yea i know, i'll check what those edge files are |
| 13:44.54 | foxlit | just check the addon description |
| 13:45.01 | foxlit | "Lightweight weighs!" |
| 13:46.21 | Kraftman | how coem i can move the blizzard buffs during combat, but i cant move one si make myself? :'( |
| 13:46.25 | Kraftman | ones i* |
| 13:46.32 | Nobgul | secure frames |
| 13:46.46 | Nobgul | that was a guess btw =P |
| 13:47.02 | Kraftman | is blizzard code exempt from secure frames or something? |
| 13:47.08 | Nobgul | Naw |
| 13:47.36 | Nobgul | Let me rephrase that. I don't think it is. |
| 13:47.38 | Kraftman | because the buffs created in BuffFrame.xml use AuraButtonTemplate instead of SecureAuraHeader |
| 13:47.57 | Kraftman | but right clicking them still cancels buffs properly |
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| 13:48.24 | Nobgul | I was clicking off buffs last night in combat. So i dunno. |
| 13:48.41 | Kraftman | using the default buffs? |
| 13:48.54 | Nobgul | Using zorks rothui diablo |
| 13:49.05 | Kraftman | thanks, ill check out his code |
| 13:49.34 | Nobgul | Ive been playing with it. But yea mid fight realized that i had a agility flask instead of the spirit healing one. and was able to click cancel and drink |
| 13:50.03 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for click cancel! Was that in the patch? Omg, do want. *happy dance* |
| 13:50.40 | zenzio | clicks Lopeppeppy |
| 13:51.35 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio-dear. |
| 13:51.55 | airtonix | doublespaces zenzio |
| 13:54.10 | Kraftman | does anyone know the limitations of the secureauratemplate? before i start diving in trying to do stuff i cant do |
| 13:54.47 | airtonix | you can't buy stuff on ebay with it |
| 13:55.53 | Kraftman | shit :( |
| 13:56.18 | airtonix | did i just kill your addon idea? |
| 13:56.28 | Kraftman | you did |
| 13:57.03 | Kraftman | i wanted to purchase a kitten every time i CancelUnitBuff'd a lifebloom |
| 13:57.17 | airtonix | i think it's time to eat icecream |
| 13:58.55 | Lopeppeppy | You share icecreams? I will give your addon CPR in exchange for ice cream. |
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| 13:58.58 | airtonix | Current weather: 81 °F (heat index: 82 °F) · relative humidity: 51% |
| 13:59.03 | airtonix | :( |
| 13:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | ~weather kalb |
| 14:01.04 | Lulia | Someone said graphics? |
| 14:01.22 | Fisker | stares at Lopeppeppy |
| 14:02.09 | Lulia | Wish I could stare at Lopeppeppy too! |
| 14:02.30 | Lopeppeppy | There are old old old pictures of me online. And of course on Facebook. |
| 14:03.45 | airtonix | i bet you just took screenshots of you in your gnomesuit |
| 14:04.04 | Lopeppeppy | I did not. Real pictures of me and Cairenn and Seerah at Blizzcon. |
| 14:05.08 | Thunder_Child | http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php |
| 14:05.11 | Thunder_Child | enjoy |
| 14:05.50 | Lopeppeppy | TC has even met me, got to gaze upon me all during dinner. |
| 14:05.59 | Thunder_Child | and make her unhappy |
| 14:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | Soooo crude and socially unacceptable, just like you are here. *grin* |
| 14:06.26 | airtonix | reality is a burden |
| 14:06.40 | Thunder_Child | indeed Lopeppeppy, indeed |
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| 14:10.04 | Kraftman | hmm |
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| 14:11.59 | Nobgul | i has seen Lopeppeppy before. |
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| 14:13.40 | Kraftman | i dont understand why blizzard doesnt use its own SecureAuraHeader for its buffs? |
| 14:14.43 | zenzio | doesn't their code already run with elevated privileges? |
| 14:15.01 | Kraftman | i dont know :/ |
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| 14:15.27 | Kraps | http://www.andrewwilliamson.net/batman_begins |
| 14:16.22 | Nobgul | I was told once that it does not. It runs the same as everyone elses code. If it has changed or if that was wrong I don't know |
| 14:17.39 | Kraftman | it seems odd that i have to use the secure template to make my own buffs, when alternatively i can just mess aroudn with the blizzard buffs in combat with no issues |
| 14:17.52 | Lulia | Oh, Lopeppeppy, I was going to come up with the line "But that would be creepy" to follow my statement |
| 14:18.07 | Lulia | But then no one responded so I lost interest in my previous statement quickly. |
| 14:18.08 | Lulia | :P |
| 14:18.12 | Kraps | amg http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/157050/bear-armor-buff-is-way-over-the-mark |
| 14:18.42 | Nobgul | Lulia, is here. Sup. |
| 14:19.08 | Nobgul | keymone, Is working with some graphics and I said you would be the one to ask. |
| 14:19.37 | keymone | yo |
| 14:20.20 | keymone | i think i'll just force everybody to use proper uiscale or stare at ugly random 0-2 pixel borders |
| 14:20.32 | Nobgul | lul |
| 14:21.51 | Lopeppeppy | pixels are pretty! |
| 14:22.26 | keymone | not if they form ugly picture though |
| 14:23.54 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: you should come over and see my pixels, I have quite the collection |
| 14:24.08 | Nobgul | lol |
| 14:24.39 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/#!5756702/what-the-hell-is-uncharteds-movie-director-talking-about |
| 14:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe once you get me a kitty to cuddle! |
| 14:25.42 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: I'm probably picking one up on Saturday actually |
| 14:25.55 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaaaay! I hope you guys get along well. |
| 14:26.01 | Fisker | Â |
| 14:26.07 | Fisker | i want a tablet airtonix |
| 14:26.51 | Nobgul | Lopeppeppy, here u go. http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/15/i-made-you-a-cookie/ |
| 14:27.54 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. I hope the chocolate chips don't make the poor kitty sick. |
| 14:28.13 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio, you have to take a bunch of pictures for me, okay? |
| 14:28.22 | zenzio | of course |
| 14:28.28 | zenzio | of the cat too? |
| 14:28.42 | Nobgul | Lopeppeppy, who said it was chocolate? |
| 14:28.49 | Nobgul | wishful thinking? |
| 14:29.21 | Fisker | tickles airtonix |
| 14:29.42 | Nobgul | @project powerbars |
| 14:29.43 | Repo | Nobgul: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/powerbars/. Power Bars. Game: WoW. Chamenas (Manager/Author). Updated: 65 days ago |
| 14:31.00 | keymone | cool |
| 14:31.04 | airtonix | Fisker: ok |
| 14:31.10 | Nobgul | ~punch Fisker |
| 14:31.10 | purl | ACTION lets fly with a wild haymaker which catches Fisker right on the nose |
| 14:31.17 | Nobgul | doah! |
| 14:32.00 | Lulia | hugs Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:32.06 | airtonix | Fisker: Nobgul has just entered into my employment as Prime Executor |
| 14:32.48 | airtonix | Nobgul: your hourly wage is $-64 |
| 14:34.24 | Nobgul | WOOT |
| 14:37.00 | Fisker | why would you do that Nobgul ? |
| 14:37.18 | Kraps | whats going on here |
| 14:38.03 | Nobgul | Fisker, Cause i am evil. |
| 14:38.45 | bluspacecow | Looppepypypy ! |
| 14:38.47 | bluspacecow | I is tired |
| 14:38.49 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 14:39.14 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.27 | mitch0 | is there some pastey like site where you can upload any kind of file and download later? |
| 14:39.32 | bluspacecow | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 14:39.53 | bluspacecow | they could call it "holdthis.com" |
| 14:40.39 | Fisker | jersk bluspacecow |
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| 14:42.59 | Kraps | whats going on :( |
| 14:43.21 | Kraps | my net is slow, firefox locked up |
| 14:44.47 | airtonix | qqmoar |
| 14:45.03 | Kraps | i am |
| 14:45.36 | Kraps | http://www.destructoid.com/-like-diablo-iii-on-facebook-for-new-art-and-screenshots-193655.phtml |
| 14:45.39 | Lulia | I don't gets a hug :( |
| 14:45.43 | Lulia | Oh, hi, Cairenn! |
| 14:45.58 | Cairenn | hi Lulia |
| 14:46.04 | airtonix | mitch0: yeah it's called dropbox |
| 14:46.06 | Lulia | hugs Cairenn. |
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| 14:46.14 | Cairenn | hugs Lulia |
| 14:47.14 | Fisker | plants a bomb |
| 14:47.52 | keymone | mitch0: there is also wuala.com service which is similar to dropbox and you can earn storage there just by being online |
| 14:48.43 | airtonix | sounds legit |
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| 14:49.16 | airtonix | you know that sounds like the hindi word for boy |
| 14:49.22 | mitch0 | airtonix: I'd sorta like a no-registration-neeeded one ;) |
| 14:49.25 | bluspacecow | *makes bed on Fisker* |
| 14:49.47 | bluspacecow | seriously guys new build of flash out go update |
| 14:49.53 | Fisker | farts |
| 14:50.17 | zenzio | be the first of your friends to upgrade! |
| 14:50.22 | Fisker | what do you mean bluspacecow ? |
| 14:50.24 | Fisker | update what? |
| 14:50.25 | bluspacecow | i has a very noisy bed |
| 14:50.30 | bluspacecow | Adobe Flash |
| 14:50.32 | Fisker | you guys still run flash disembedded? |
| 14:50.53 | bluspacecow | ralph ? |
| 14:51.00 | airtonix | fiskembed |
| 14:51.09 | bluspacecow | http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb11-02.html |
| 14:51.18 | Fisker | i'm gonna slap you silly with my new nas case |
| 14:51.30 | airtonix | ok |
| 14:51.44 | Fisker | i can't download it bluspacecow |
| 14:52.04 | Fisker | i get an eror saying i'm not a jive sucker and thus do not need to download it |
| 14:52.06 | Fisker | eror |
| 14:52.11 | Fisker | eroreror |
| 14:52.11 | bluspacecow | http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ |
| 14:52.38 | Fisker | Your Google Chrome browser already includes Adobe® Flash® Player built-in. All other foos are jive suckas. |
| 14:53.22 | airtonix | yeah adobe only provide flash for ubuntu 9.04 |
| 14:53.34 | airtonix | apparently they forgot to update |
| 14:53.40 | airtonix | loool |
| 14:53.43 | airtonix | :( |
| 14:53.55 | Fisker | ubuntu isn't that the operating system for poor kids in africa+ |
| 14:54.37 | Fisker | high fives bluspacecow |
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| 14:54.55 | bluspacecow | *high fives fisker* |
| 14:55.14 | bluspacecow | does it auto update fiskery |
| 14:55.17 | Kraftman | wuala vs dropbox? |
| 14:55.30 | airtonix | same shit |
| 14:55.35 | Kraftman | fair enough |
| 14:55.55 | Fisker | flash doesn't bluspacecow |
| 14:56.02 | Fisker | but gewgle khråm does |
| 14:56.28 | Fisker | (That's Google Chrome) |
| 14:57.24 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 14:57.29 | bluspacecow | it was very cute of you |
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| 14:57.59 | airtonix | hoho |
| 14:58.12 | airtonix | Fisker: you're so gay |
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| 14:58.25 | Fisker | i am very happy airtonix |
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| 15:06.21 | airtonix | Fisker: thats nice |
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| 15:08.13 | Kraps | hes climbin in your windows |
| 15:13.27 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:21.35 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on fisker* |
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| 15:25.07 | DJJeff | http://www.thedailyblink.com/comics/2010-01-15-006.jpg |
| 15:25.24 | DJJeff | umadbrah? |
| 15:26.05 | bluspacecow | http://www.thedailyblink.com/ |
| 15:26.08 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 15:26.19 | bluspacecow | running and shooting then fall off a cliff |
| 15:30.44 | airtonix | man female toons in wow are like hentai... shit just keeps getting bigger |
| 15:31.25 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: We'll see how funny you think it is after it happens to you the ninth or tenth time |
| 15:31.27 | airtonix | im pretty sure last time i played wow, sylanas was not so well gifted |
| 15:31.36 | bluspacecow | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2011/02/the-ghost-in-the-machine/ |
| 15:33.24 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to work out a proper 'full stop' button, since wagging back and forth won't stop my shootin' now |
| 15:33.49 | Fisker | slaps bluspacecow around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:33.59 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 15:40.11 | Ackis | I'm not in a good mood today, I think I went to bed grumpy and woke up grumpier. I need amusement |
| 15:40.23 | Grum | taunt a Fisker |
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| 15:42.28 | Kraps | nice, human target goes the Borne route this week |
| 15:42.35 | Kraps | bourne? |
| 15:42.46 | amro | if you're british |
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| 15:54.18 | sylvanaar_work | join #corona |
| 15:54.22 | sylvanaar_work | nice |
| 15:54.26 | Ackis | spammer! |
| 15:55.23 | sylvanaar_work | #cheapwowgold |
| 15:55.59 | sylvanaar_work | whats the one that has the funnny name oh yeah "susanexpress.com" |
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| 16:03.09 | zenzelezz | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/02/how-one-security-firm-tracked-anonymousand-paid-a-heavy-price.ars/ |
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| 16:08.51 | Kraps | 7ITS266 |
| 16:08.57 | Kraps | what does that say? |
| 16:09.58 | karl_w_w | 7ITS266 |
| 16:10.19 | Kraps | no karl_w_w |
| 16:10.31 | zenzelezz | yes it does |
| 16:12.29 | karl_w_w | i'd love to know why game cards come in such big boxes |
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| 16:13.25 | Lopeppeppy | To leave room for the invisible gnomes. |
| 16:13.58 | karl_w_w | the best part is sometimes i order a gamecard online and it'll come in this box as wide and high as the game card box, but it's about 6 times the depth |
| 16:14.07 | Kraps | more US tv shows should have 12-13 episodes |
| 16:14.08 | karl_w_w | and it's full of that plastic popcorn |
| 16:14.30 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, that's shipping then. |
| 16:14.39 | karl_w_w | so you end up with about a cubic foot of packaging for 1 credit card sized thing |
| 16:14.40 | Kraps | Human Target did it for 2 seasons and it seems to work well |
| 16:15.29 | Kraps | otoh, maybe it just works for that type of show |
| 16:15.52 | karl_w_w | what's human target? |
| 16:16.07 | amro | Arrowmaster: ping |
| 16:16.07 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Target_%282010_TV_series%29 |
| 16:16.52 | karl_w_w | oh the show with buzz lightyear |
| 16:17.28 | Kraps | buzz lightyear? |
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| 16:18.44 | karl_w_w | yes |
| 16:18.58 | Kraps | where? |
| 16:19.37 | karl_w_w | mark valley |
| 16:20.09 | Kraps | explain |
| 16:21.27 | karl_w_w | watch boston legal :P |
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| 16:27.44 | Ackis | Pro Tip: If someone asks you if you "have a sec" and you answer "I have lots of secs", they will forget their original question. |
| 16:27.55 | airtonix | lold |
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| 16:29.07 | Lopeppeppy | Pro tip, at my college that could get me fired! |
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| 16:30.28 | Arrowmaster | amro: pong |
| 16:30.52 | Ackis | http://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/dcfab921-9d90-4b0f-b880-da34563b0a8b.jpg |
| 16:31.23 | amro | Arrowmaster: you mentioned using HDs to keep a load on the PSU, would idle harddrives cut it? |
| 16:31.41 | Fisker | i'm bored Lopeppeppy |
| 16:31.43 | Arrowmaster | that wasnt me |
| 16:32.40 | Arrowmaster | but i suggest getting a real 12volt powersupply instead of a computer PSU |
| 16:32.56 | mckenziemc | amro: yes |
| 16:33.06 | amro | Arrowmaster: I'll forward that to the PSU, I imagine its feelings will be hurt |
| 16:33.14 | mckenziemc | hah |
| 16:33.43 | zenzelezz | amro: "keep a load"? |
| 16:33.46 | Arrowmaster | using a computer PSU for a low load will be very inefficient and more likely prone to problems |
| 16:34.22 | amro | zenzelezz: yes, it's hooked up to a 12V motor via a potentiometer so it needs something to keep drawing power hwen the potentiometer is cranked up |
| 16:34.45 | Fisker | fans |
| 16:35.23 | zenzelezz | ah, all right |
| 16:35.34 | Arrowmaster | seriously though, i just searched google for '12 volt psu' and found this page http://www.trcelectronics.com/12-volt-power-supplies-low-chassis-1.shtml |
| 16:35.38 | Arrowmaster | look at the prices |
| 16:36.29 | Arrowmaster | much cheaper than a computer psu if he ends up blowing that one due to improper use |
| 16:39.24 | amro | Arrowmaster: needs 25A |
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| 16:40.31 | Arrowmaster | hell i probably have a sutable psu around here somewhere from when i bought a ton of shit planning to build a water cooled computer with a huge ass TEC with its own PSU |
| 16:41.02 | amro | well, according to him the ones rated for 25A are too expensive |
| 16:41.27 | Shirik | he needs a 25A supply? |
| 16:41.32 | Shirik | You're kidding right? |
| 16:41.51 | Arrowmaster | that does sound a bit high |
| 16:41.52 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/demotivational-posters-skeptical-bunny.jpg |
| 16:41.53 | Shirik | 25A needs some serious wires |
| 16:41.58 | Shirik | wtf are you trying to power |
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| 16:42.07 | Arrowmaster | some arcade machine motor |
| 16:42.08 | amro | not a centrifuge |
| 16:42.09 | Adys | holy shit you're still on that PSU stuff? |
| 16:42.11 | amro | http://www.dyadgame.com/TheMachine/IMG_0722.JPG |
| 16:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, go change your socks. |
| 16:42.18 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:42.20 | Adys | i go to sleep you're still on it, I wake up you're still on it |
| 16:42.22 | mckenziemc | do you mean 25W instead of 25A |
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| 16:43.10 | Shirik | Wait why does an arcade machine need a motor |
| 16:43.38 | Lopeppeppy | To make it go vroom? |
| 16:44.07 | karl_w_w | the reading on my +5v line is 6.85v, should I be worried? |
| 16:44.19 | Shirik | also, amro, you don't need to keep a load on a computer PSU |
| 16:44.30 | Shirik | lua> 5 * 1.05 |
| 16:44.30 | lua_bot | Shirik: 5.25 |
| 16:44.33 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:44.39 | Shirik | but it's probably your meter at fault |
| 16:45.11 | karl_w_w | probably |
| 16:45.22 | karl_w_w | it doesnt even show up in everest |
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| 16:46.11 | Shirik | amro, don't use a computer PSU, but you could. Probably the best way to go about it if you REALLY need 12V 25A is to get a higher voltage supply and step it down |
| 16:46.18 | mckenziemc | Shirik: i don't think the switching circuits like running with no load |
| 16:46.19 | Shirik | but that requires a little electrical engineering work |
| 16:46.38 | Shirik | mckenziemc: I don't care what you think, the ATX specification is quite clear in what a power supply is allowed and not allowed to do |
| 16:46.48 | Shirik | and one of the things it is not allowed to do is clamp the lines except in very specific cases |
| 16:47.14 | mckenziemc | i believe it was in my computer repair book that i read that :p |
| 16:47.51 | Nobgul | wtf are you building? |
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| 16:48.16 | Cide | Shirik: I am no longer gimped! [Finkle's Mixer Upper] |
| 16:48.43 | Shirik | grats Cide |
| 16:48.47 | Cide | thank you! |
| 16:48.56 | Shirik | I'm probably skipping my raid tonight |
| 16:49.00 | Cide | no moar resilience |
| 16:49.00 | Shirik | too much work to do |
| 16:49.06 | Cide | ah |
| 16:49.14 | Shirik | I was at work until 10:30 last night |
| 16:49.18 | Cide | ouch |
| 16:49.30 | Shirik | And I come back from the simulators |
| 16:49.33 | Shirik | to my cube |
| 16:49.42 | Shirik | and someone else is there |
| 16:49.44 | Ackis | we failed omnitron for 2 hours last night... I was not a happy panda :( |
| 16:49.47 | Shirik | and he's like "wtf are you doing here" |
| 16:49.50 | Shirik | and I'm like "wtf are YOU doing here" |
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| 16:49.54 | Cide | haha |
| 16:49.56 | Cide | what happened? |
| 16:50.04 | Cide | Ackis: fail |
| 16:50.07 | Nobgul | eww Ackis, very easy fight |
| 16:50.13 | Shirik | we just both had a lot to work to do :) |
| 16:50.20 | Shirik | oh he wasn't at my cube he just sits next to me |
| 16:50.24 | Cide | omnotron was the only boss we didn't wipe to |
| 16:50.26 | Cide | oh |
| 16:50.32 | Cide | haha |
| 16:50.37 | Cide | we wiped like 2-3 times on every bwd boss except omnotron |
| 16:50.39 | Cide | worst raid ever |
| 16:51.03 | Ackis | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/ofsfvbqz3ivflpdu/ |
| 16:51.03 | Shirik | I really think we're doing maloriak totally wrong |
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| 16:51.17 | Shirik | We let out 9 guys every set |
| 16:51.19 | Ackis | the poison things seemed to kill us more often than not for some reason |
| 16:51.23 | Cide | so far so good |
| 16:51.24 | Shirik | which leaves 0 for the end |
| 16:51.28 | Nobgul | we wiped for 2+ hours on chimeron last night =( |
| 16:51.29 | Cide | which is what you want |
| 16:51.33 | Shirik | I thought you were supposed to do 6,6,6 |
| 16:51.35 | Ackis | I died once when it was across the screen completely for me |
| 16:51.35 | Cide | no |
| 16:51.41 | Shirik | oh |
| 16:51.42 | Cide | the adds increase the damage every mob does |
| 16:51.43 | Shirik | well then |
| 16:51.57 | Cide | so you'll get basically one shot by the boss at 25% |
| 16:52.04 | Shirik | I see |
| 16:52.06 | Cide | since 6 adds will increase maloriak's damage by like 120% |
| 16:52.17 | Cide | or more if it's multiplicative |
| 16:52.40 | Nobgul | Shirik, Maloriak is a crap fight. |
| 16:52.41 | Kraps | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/memes-y-u-no-mubarak.jpg |
| 16:52.44 | Shirik | maloriak is fun |
| 16:52.46 | Nobgul | We had issues with it as well. |
| 16:52.51 | Cide | chimaeron is the most fun |
| 16:52.55 | Shirik | chimaeron is boring |
| 16:52.56 | Cide | oh we one shot chimaeron too |
| 16:53.01 | Nobgul | Its a healing fight |
| 16:53.02 | Shirik | PoH is perfect for it |
| 16:53.09 | Cide | only for a small segment |
| 16:53.14 | Cide | it's all about execution for the other part |
| 16:53.16 | Shirik | Like my PoH does almost exactly 10k |
| 16:53.24 | Cide | wow fail |
| 16:53.30 | Cide | my Heal does almost exactly 10k |
| 16:53.35 | Shirik | ... |
| 16:53.36 | Cide | no reason to poh for one target |
| 16:53.39 | Shirik | you know my intellect is low |
| 16:53.43 | Cide | :> |
| 16:53.49 | Cide | do you have a shaman? |
| 16:53.54 | Shirik | healer? |
| 16:53.55 | Shirik | no |
| 16:53.58 | Cide | healer stream |
| 16:54.02 | Cide | healing stream* |
| 16:54.04 | Cide | if so you can get by with 9k |
| 16:54.15 | Cide | shadow priest maybe 8.5k |
| 16:54.22 | Shirik | with mastery my heal probably gets close to 10k |
| 16:54.23 | Cide | assuming healing stream+SP |
| 16:54.35 | Shirik | lua> 10000 / 1.25 |
| 16:54.36 | lua_bot | Shirik: 8000 |
| 16:54.40 | Shirik | maybe not quite |
| 16:54.43 | Shirik | it'd be close |
| 16:54.48 | Cide | I toss one heal per caustic slime |
| 16:55.00 | Cide | one heal+CoH right before massacre to save anyone almost there |
| 16:55.08 | Shirik | but anyway |
| 16:55.08 | Cide | one PoH after massacre |
| 16:55.10 | Cide | collect loot |
| 16:55.12 | Nobgul | I wish the healers i keep bringing in would understand the fight. |
| 16:55.16 | Shirik | me = holy priest |
| 16:55.19 | Shirik | other healer = holy paladin |
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| 16:55.25 | Shirik | she stays on tanks, I stay on raid, win |
| 16:55.32 | Cide | you bring 2 healers? |
| 16:55.32 | Nobgul | Your 2 healing =X? |
| 16:55.33 | karl_w_w | we let out 9,9 adds for maloriak, and i rof when the last 3 come out, by then he pretty much goes into green phase |
| 16:55.43 | Shirik | yes? |
| 16:55.45 | Cide | what |
| 16:55.46 | Shirik | is that bad? |
| 16:55.47 | Cide | that's insane |
| 16:55.48 | mckenziemc | Shirik, amro: http://www.epanorama.net/links/psu_computer.html (see Using PC power supply as general laboratory power supply near the bottom) |
| 16:55.48 | Cide | yes |
| 16:55.50 | Nobgul | Not al all. |
| 16:55.52 | Shirik | don't blame me |
| 16:56.00 | Nobgul | I said thats the way we shold do it |
| 16:56.04 | Cide | no way |
| 16:56.05 | Cide | that's insane |
| 16:56.07 | Nobgul | but the healers blow goat balls |
| 16:56.12 | mckenziemc | i just found this on google so i concede it's probably not a reputable source |
| 16:56.17 | Cide | you can't heal 2 people in 3 seconds effectively |
| 16:56.20 | Cide | if they are in separate groups |
| 16:56.31 | Nobgul | I can |
| 16:56.32 | Shirik | don't believe everything you see online mckenziemc |
| 16:56.41 | Shirik | It is correct that for AT power supplies it is different |
| 16:56.55 | Shirik | But if you can even find an AT power supply still I'll be surprised |
| 16:57.06 | Cide | Nobgul: are you a paladin? |
| 16:57.17 | Cide | I don't think any other class can |
| 16:57.23 | mckenziemc | however i think the reason they don't like running with no load is that the switching transistor has to be in one state for a largo portion of the time |
| 16:57.24 | Cide | but I don't know about paladins since we don't have one |
| 16:57.30 | Nobgul | Ackis, WHAT TYPE OF GEAR IS YOUR RAID IN? |
| 16:57.30 | Shirik | Actually that page is 100% correct |
| 16:57.32 | Adys | Google is deploying their new 2-step authentication: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/advanced-sign-in-security-for-your.html |
| 16:57.34 | Shirik | "PS_ON can be activated by connecting ATX power output pin 14 (PS_ON) to pint 15 (ground)." |
| 16:57.34 | Nobgul | oops caps |
| 16:57.39 | Shirik | That is exactly what you need to do |
| 16:57.41 | Shirik | but you need to do that anyway |
| 16:57.57 | Ackis | Nobgul: lol your caps lock is on... |
| 16:58.01 | Nobgul | =P |
| 16:58.05 | Cide | how does that work with smtp |
| 16:58.22 | mckenziemc | Shirik: "Don't believe everything you see in IRC" |
| 16:58.22 | Nobgul | still same question |
| 16:58.28 | Shirik | This part: "Some ATX PSUs also require a load on the main +5V to start (could be even damaged without enough load)." violates the ATX spec |
| 16:58.39 | Shirik | It wouldn't exactly surprise me if some low-end PSUs do that |
| 16:58.45 | Shirik | but it is not in spec |
| 16:59.38 | Ackis | Nobgul: they're all geared with heroics/some epics at least why do you ask? |
| 16:59.40 | Ackis | DPS low? |
| 16:59.59 | Nobgul | Yea |
| 17:00.04 | Nobgul | we require 13-19k |
| 17:00.04 | Shirik | mckenziemc: You can choose to believe whomever you want to believe :) |
| 17:00.09 | Shirik | I just know I do this for a living |
| 17:00.13 | Shirik | that being said, off to work, bye |
| 17:00.22 | Arrowmaster | dont crash anything today |
| 17:01.29 | Nobgul | see ya Shirik |
| 17:01.45 | amro | Shirik: what do you mean by clamp the lines? |
| 17:03.52 | ccox | Many PC PSUs require a load before they'll start. Not just the cheap ones. |
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| 17:05.12 | DJJeff | http://www.thedailyblink.com/comics/2011-01-31-106.jpg |
| 17:05.19 | DJJeff | ....... /discuss |
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| 17:13.52 | Cide | OLD |
| 17:13.55 | Cide | is what I want to discuss |
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| 17:17.31 | mckenziemc | Cide: regarding chakra, you could override the sound file with a 0 byte one :p |
| 17:17.50 | mckenziemc | i think that's what i'm going to do |
| 17:18.03 | Cide | why would I |
| 17:18.07 | Cide | I just do it to annoy other people |
| 17:18.12 | Cide | I can disable sound myself |
| 17:18.29 | Cide | when I'm raiding I want to hear that sound |
| 17:18.31 | mckenziemc | this way you can do it any time without disabling sound |
| 17:18.36 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 17:18.52 | Cide | for the same reason you don't want a totally quiet mouse - feedback |
| 17:20.39 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:20.46 | Kraftman | whats the function to send mail in game? |
| 17:20.47 | Fisker | reported mckenziemc |
| 17:21.10 | mckenziemc | orly |
| 17:21.16 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:21.46 | mckenziemc | ~brand Fisker |
| 17:22.05 | zenzelezz | !api SendMail |
| 17:22.05 | lua_bot | SendMail: Sends the outgoing message (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendMail) |
| 17:22.11 | Kraftman | ty :) |
| 17:22.12 | zenzelezz | wonder if that's right |
| 17:22.17 | zenzelezz | was just a guess :-p |
| 17:22.28 | Fisker | i'm not the one violating the law mckenziemc |
| 17:22.45 | mckenziemc | i'm not either |
| 17:22.46 | Kraftman | any idea how it was "broken" to prevent mass mailing? |
| 17:23.08 | Fisker | I AM THE LAW |
| 17:23.20 | Fisker | and i said you were violating the law mckenziemc |
| 17:23.54 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 17:24.01 | mckenziemc | i'm starving. where's my sandwich |
| 17:24.15 | Fisker | the law doesn't entitle you to a sandwich |
| 17:24.21 | Fisker | however you shouldn't be exploiting wow |
| 17:25.44 | mckenziemc | i'll exploit your face fisker |
| 17:28.27 | Fisker | you can't exploit my face in jail mckenziemc |
| 17:28.52 | mckenziemc | oh yes i can |
| 17:30.49 | mckenziemc | ~fiskers |
| 17:30.49 | purl | ACTION fiskerly fiskers Fisker. |
| 17:30.58 | mckenziemc | ~keyboard Cairenn |
| 17:30.58 | purl | ACTION slaps Cairenn around a bit with a keyboard. |
| 17:31.22 | zenzelezz | ~emulate zenzelezz |
| 17:31.22 | purl | OMG STOP TALKIN TO TEH BOT! |
| 17:31.40 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 17:31.54 | Fisker | mckenziemc |
| 17:31.56 | Fisker | you can't |
| 17:32.00 | Fisker | stop exploiting wow |
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| 17:34.35 | mikma | haste: http://www.geekologie.com/2011/02/how_long_it_takes_to_guess_you.php |
| 17:35.58 | karl_w_w | this is Fisker in real life: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM |
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| 17:38.19 | Nobgul | really i thought this was fisker |
| 17:38.20 | Nobgul | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw |
| 17:41.04 | Yith | fisker's a bot? |
| 17:41.13 | karl_w_w | the original footage is so much better than the song |
| 17:41.17 | Computerpunk | Fisker, ?????????????????????????????? |
| 17:41.20 | Computerpunk | I missed you this morning. |
| 17:41.49 | Nobgul | karl_w_w, your drunk |
| 17:42.47 | zenzelezz | what about his drunk? |
| 17:42.53 | Nobgul | lol |
| 17:42.58 | Nobgul | ~drunk karl_w_w |
| 17:43.02 | Nobgul | hrmm |
| 17:43.12 | Nobgul | ~emulate Nobgul |
| 17:43.25 | Nobgul | ~Nobgul |
| 17:43.25 | purl | Nub! |
| 17:43.28 | Nobgul | hee |
| 17:45.20 | kd3|netbook | hm... 1:45 til mubrak's speech |
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| 17:48.00 | Nobgul | any news yet kd3? |
| 17:48.09 | kd3|netbook | it got shipped a few days ago |
| 17:48.13 | Nobgul | nice |
| 17:48.15 | kd3|netbook | tabs open his inbox to track it |
| 17:48.21 | Nobgul | IM excited and its not even my bag o shit |
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| 17:48.30 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:51.19 | mikma | turn left now. |
| 17:52.08 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 17:52.19 | Lopeppeppy | swipes kd3's package. |
| 17:52.22 | Lunessa | Recalculating... |
| 17:53.02 | Lopeppeppy | I can hear my snotty GPS saying that! |
| 17:55.45 | Fisker | what got shipped kd3 ? |
| 17:57.16 | Lopeppeppy | My valentine's present, obviously. :P |
| 17:58.32 | Fisker | that's not allowed Lopeppeppy |
| 17:58.38 | Nobgul | Naw his bag of shit |
| 17:58.45 | Nobgul | Ordered from woot.com |
| 17:58.47 | Lopeppeppy | I'm totally allowed to get presents, Fisker. |
| 17:59.02 | Lopeppeppy | Even from male-type creatures. |
| 17:59.14 | Lopeppeppy | I should say especially, but that's just me being all girly. |
| 18:00.48 | Fisker | I AM THE LAW Lopeppeppy |
| 18:01.15 | Lopeppeppy | *yawn* |
| 18:01.22 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:01.55 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
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| 18:01.56 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/#!5757100/this-is-a-shitty-way-to-teach-a-child-new-words |
| 18:02.04 | foxlit | You are the LAWN, fisker? |
| 18:02.53 | Fisker | that would suck foxlit |
| 18:02.55 | Kraps | "Victoria will not be playing the game with her son anymore. As for his new word, just tell him it is a nine-letter-word describing the people that programmed the words into a television show-based video game rated for players three and up." |
| 18:03.11 | Kraps | why can all moms be this awesome? |
| 18:05.11 | foxlit | That's, um, Kotaku's editorial comment |
| 18:05.34 | foxlit | For all that quote tells you, the mom may now be burning every videogame she sees. |
| 18:05.59 | Kraps | hey you're right |
| 18:06.18 | Kraps | ima go the bathroom now |
| 18:07.32 | Fisker | i want a tablet foxlit |
| 18:07.42 | Fisker | why does noone ever launch anything first in denmark? |
| 18:07.54 | foxlit | Go buy an iTablet. |
| 18:07.58 | amro | because nobody likes denmark |
| 18:08.31 | ccox | Den where? |
| 18:08.36 | foxlit | I hear they sell them in the nearest FOÐA |
| 18:09.10 | kd3|netbook | whee. looks like AJE's website is crumbling under the load |
| 18:09.30 | Kraps | its like at the end of the world almost Fisker http://www.mapsofworld.com/denmark/maps/denmark-location-world.gif |
| 18:09.56 | Fisker | naw foxlit |
| 18:10.00 | Fisker | ipads != tablets |
| 18:10.38 | amro | kd3|netbook: loads fine here |
| 18:11.00 | amro | ajnet doesn't though |
| 18:11.30 | Cide | internet protocol ads?! |
| 18:11.59 | Kraps | what aje? |
| 18:12.05 | amro | al jazeera english |
| 18:12.46 | kd3|netbook | apparently it's the campus wifi; watching it on my phone instead |
| 18:12.48 | kd3|netbook | sighs |
| 18:13.23 | Kraps | kd3|netbook: anything interesting going on? |
| 18:13.36 | amro | a revolution or 2 |
| 18:14.04 | kd3|netbook | the egyptian president is going to be speaking live in about an hour; current rumor is that he's about to step down |
| 18:14.04 | Kraps | meh |
| 18:14.06 | amro | and lol at saudi arabia trying to bargain in politics |
| 18:14.11 | Fisker | i can't raid anymore kd3|netbook |
| 18:14.27 | Fisker | i think the egyptian people are being unreasonable kd3|netbook |
| 18:14.47 | Kraps | kd3|netbook: orly? about time |
| 18:14.52 | Lunessa | Rumors are no way to run a country, son. |
| 18:15.02 | Fisker | First he offers to fire the government, then he offers to step down and oversee a new government, then he even offers them a raise |
| 18:15.19 | Fisker | but still they want more |
| 18:15.28 | kd3|netbook | fark's thread about it is win, as usual... "Multiple reports circulating that Hosni Mubarak will step down tonight in lieu of his original plan, which was to be assassinated and disemboweled by an angry mob" |
| 18:15.39 | Kraps | problem is, the economy is probably in the shitter |
| 18:16.04 | Kraps | 17 days |
| 18:16.06 | kd3|netbook | it has been; the demonstrations haven't been helping. something to the tune of $300M/day |
| 18:16.20 | amro | Kraps: it was in the shitter to begin with |
| 18:16.31 | Fisker | seems like a stupid thing to pay for kd3|netbook |
| 18:16.39 | amro | people were tired of scrounging for meals while the elite cruised in yachts |
| 18:17.07 | ccox | amro: is that egypt, Europe, or the US you're referring to? |
| 18:17.40 | Kraps | amro: that happens here too, just not to egypts extent :p |
| 18:17.49 | amro | it happens everywhere |
| 18:17.55 | amro | but it went too far in egypt |
| 18:20.33 | Kraps | boggles http://store.steampowered.com/sub/7282/ |
| 18:21.51 | amro | Kraps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railfan |
| 18:21.52 | zenzelezz | "You save: 633,86"... holy fuck that's a lot |
| 18:22.54 | Kraps | eh |
| 18:23.01 | Kraps | OMG LOOK A TRAIN |
| 18:23.13 | kd3|netbook | jeez. |
| 18:23.26 | karl_w_w | eyy they changed the fishing cursor again |
| 18:23.27 | kd3|netbook | a bit over $1K us for that if not on sale? wtf |
| 18:24.11 | Kraps | idk, maybe because i'm in nyc, trainspotting would be extremely boring |
| 18:24.37 | karl_w_w | trainspotting is extremely boring everywhere |
| 18:25.21 | Kraps | look a subway train! it looks exactly like all the other subway trains! except the new ones have sightly different interiors! |
| 18:25.31 | zenzelezz | it was a good movie |
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| 18:30.54 | Fisker | Judge Dredd? |
| 18:31.33 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNixDlRoMvA |
| 18:36.26 | karl_w_w | LOL |
| 18:36.40 | karl_w_w | only in america |
| 18:36.45 | karl_w_w | (I hope) |
| 18:37.16 | Kraftman | http://www.theonion.com/articles/republicans-vote-to-repeal-obamabacked-bill-that-w,19025/ |
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| 18:41.53 | Zyn- | it's The Onion :P |
| 18:42.10 | Zyn- | which has more credibility than Fox News |
| 18:42.39 | intangir | lol |
| 18:43.18 | Arrowmaster | thats also only the DLC for over $1000 normally, doesnt even include the original game |
| 18:46.38 | amro | obamastroid |
| 18:46.57 | amro | what I don't get is why obama bothers sucking up to republicans |
| 18:47.38 | intangir | what sucking up? |
| 18:48.39 | Fisker | it's funny because it would be true Kraftman |
| 18:48.54 | Kraftman | indeed |
| 18:49.15 | Kraftman | http://i.imgur.com/0YXuz.gif |
| 18:49.25 | Arrowmaster | its politics, they all vote on stuff not because of how they feel about it but because of how they think it will impact their own pet projects votes |
| 18:49.40 | Kraftman | lets start a revolution |
| 18:50.00 | Arrowmaster | yes lets |
| 18:50.10 | Kraftman | get everyone on warcraft on board first :) |
| 18:50.25 | intangir | its already started |
| 18:50.29 | Kraftman | true |
| 18:51.25 | Kraps | Kraftman: the sad thing is, it would be the same thing switched around if there was a republican president. thats why i dont follow politics anymore |
| 18:51.56 | Kraftman | i think with the way the internet is goign its becoming easier about it though |
| 18:52.12 | intangir | whats becoming easier |
| 18:52.17 | Kraftman | in the past it was just "politics is crap, but you cant do anything about it" |
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| 18:52.38 | Kraftman | now its "politics is crap, and hey, a few thousand other peopel on facebook think its crpa too" |
| 18:52.40 | Kraftman | crap* |
| 18:52.57 | Kraftman | lets get together and try and do something about it |
| 18:52.57 | intangir | i think the internet is helping empower quite alot of political change |
| 18:53.00 | intangir | not always for the better.. |
| 18:53.04 | intangir | but change non the less.. |
| 18:53.42 | intangir | Kraftman: what did you have in mind? |
| 18:54.12 | Kraftman | it was more continuation of the previous quote |
| 18:54.23 | Kraftman | im saying that's what people think more and more |
| 18:54.29 | intangir | well thats good |
| 18:54.32 | Kraftman | rather than being passive |
| 18:55.02 | intangir | i agree i think the internet holds alot of hope, we can use it to start turning things around |
| 18:55.28 | intangir | and informed public is the best defense against governmental tyranny |
| 18:55.40 | Kraftman | it depends what happens to the informants |
| 18:55.54 | intangir | if theres enough of them, nothing |
| 18:56.03 | intangir | if its 1 guy.. your not informing people very well ;) |
| 18:56.05 | Kraftman | eg julian assange, the investigations into anon where there were FBI raids |
| 18:56.22 | intangir | ya that should show you what our government is really about |
| 18:56.23 | Kraftman | this: http://www.cnbc.com//id/41257962 |
| 18:56.37 | intangir | when they call it a war crime to do what the first amendment protects our right to do.. |
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| 18:57.42 | intangir | no one likes a tattle tale ;) |
| 18:58.04 | intangir | notice who he told on, and who he told to.. |
| 18:58.07 | amro | intangir: the first amendment doesn't protect you when you sign away that right |
| 18:58.24 | intangir | wikileaks didnt sign it away |
| 18:58.31 | Kraftman | i think the biggest problem, especially in england, is the media's influence on public opinion |
| 18:58.49 | amro | intangir: whoever provided the information did |
| 18:58.50 | kd3|netbook | so let's see how much attention I pay in class today |
| 18:58.57 | kd3|netbook | has AJE running in the background |
| 18:59.03 | intangir | strangly hes not the guy being charged with 'rape' for not using a condom |
| 18:59.35 | intangir | this ubs guy is just a moron |
| 18:59.45 | intangir | he told on the richest most powerful people in the world, and he told on them to the government that THEY OWN |
| 18:59.54 | Kraftman | indeed |
| 19:00.00 | intangir | claiming its the biggest fraud in history.. obviously hes never read the tax code that these guys were supposedly cheating ;) |
| 19:00.27 | intangir | which was probably written by the people he told on.. |
| 19:00.56 | intangir | this guy was imprisoned for being retarded apparently ... |
| 19:01.03 | Kraftman | ^^ |
| 19:01.05 | intangir | why didnt he tell the press? and why would he trust the government |
| 19:01.20 | intangir | or why didnt he find out if they were actually cheating anything |
| 19:01.29 | amro | yes, he worked for years in secret banks precicely beacuse he's retarded. |
| 19:01.34 | amro | -c+s |
| 19:01.48 | amro | I think you're taking the rhetoric too far |
| 19:01.58 | intangir | i think this guy shouldve been thinking this out a bit more |
| 19:02.14 | amro | right, I'm sure he risked his career, his reputation, his life on a whim |
| 19:02.17 | amro | without any thought whatsoever |
| 19:02.33 | Kraftman | http://i.imgur.com/VWkZl.jpg |
| 19:02.47 | intangir | well look what he did.. i mean how would you expect that to work out |
| 19:03.09 | Fisker | kd3|netbook |
| 19:03.11 | Fisker | i am the law |
| 19:03.16 | Fisker | you will fix me a new tablet |
| 19:03.16 | amro | several different possiblities |
| 19:03.22 | amro | you do realize IRS functionaries aren't billionaries right? |
| 19:03.34 | amro | that typo made a rhyme |
| 19:03.41 | Lopeppeppy | hides behind Fisker. |
| 19:04.10 | amro | for that matter, why would he trust the press? |
| 19:04.16 | amro | it's also owned by the wealthiest |
| 19:04.24 | intangir | well for one the press cant directly throw him in prison |
| 19:04.30 | amro | why would he trust anyone at all? any random person would have motive to turn him in |
| 19:04.37 | amro | no but they can tell on him |
| 19:04.46 | intangir | it might not get published but at least they wont handcuff you and put you in a sealed room before hearing your story |
| 19:05.03 | amro | what difference would that make? |
| 19:05.10 | intangir | theres less risk |
| 19:05.12 | amro | if you end up in jail either way without being heard by the public |
| 19:05.28 | amro | one could argue there's less risk going to the IRS |
| 19:05.30 | intangir | the media could hear his story (and report on it or not) without him risking his freedom |
| 19:05.41 | Lopeppeppy | I could put him in a locked room myself. |
| 19:05.58 | amro | if he told someone over beers, they could knock him out and drag him into a storeroom |
| 19:06.17 | intangir | hell an astroid could kill us all right now |
| 19:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | I have a store room full of story telling people. |
| 19:06.23 | amro | see |
| 19:06.25 | intangir | how fucking absurd are you guys going to stretch this? |
| 19:06.34 | amro | how fucking paranoid are you about the IRS? |
| 19:06.38 | intangir | guess im talking to people equally as retarded |
| 19:06.50 | amro | clearly the guy is a moron for reporting tax fraud to the agency responsible for handling tax fraud |
| 19:07.03 | Lopeppeppy | Or people with long memories. |
| 19:07.03 | amro | right, you just use "retarded" whenever someone disagrees with you |
| 19:07.21 | intangir | he reported it to the justice department, not the irs anyway |
| 19:07.26 | amro | I'm surprised you're not calling us pinheads |
| 19:08.11 | intangir | im takling about real stuff yall are talking about completely absurd hypotehtical possiblilities which are completely unlikely and unreasonable |
| 19:08.48 | mckenziemc | *shrug* |
| 19:08.52 | intangir | people could club him at a bar? ..? |
| 19:08.59 | intangir | the media could arrest him? |
| 19:09.01 | Lopeppeppy | Just like a baby seal. |
| 19:09.03 | Lopeppeppy | With less ice. |
| 19:09.04 | amro | wow, nice to see you have a sense of humor |
| 19:09.40 | Lopeppeppy | I hope kd3 is getting a new internet in that Box of Stuff he ordered. |
| 19:10.14 | intangir | this is why people give up talking politics on the internet, you talk about anything even remotely resembling a matter of real world signifigance and you get mental handicaps trying to match wits with you with 1 dimentional thinking and michael bay movie plots... |
| 19:10.40 | intangir | gonna go do something productive, later |
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| 19:11.26 | amro | someone's full of themselves |
| 19:11.30 | Lopeppeppy | smiles once again. |
| 19:13.58 | Kraftman | how so? |
| 19:14.17 | Lopeppeppy | I remember intangir from Way Back When. Hoo ah. |
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| 19:14.48 | amro | you were in the corp together? |
| 19:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. Taught me how to use a Bowie knife to skin cockroaches for soup. |
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| 19:18.29 | zenzelezz | wasn't intangir the "this is(n't?) china!!" guy? |
| 19:18.46 | Lopeppeppy | Probably. And absolutely the one who told me I was going to die of cancer. |
| 19:19.18 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all almost lost me in the first week, because he was so freaky. :) |
| 19:19.29 | zenzelezz | he wasn't the only one, but yeah |
| 19:21.20 | olafski | < Kraftman> lets get together and try and do something about it <-- change your facebook picture to make a statement, that works! |
| 19:21.32 | olafski | sorry didn't mean to continue the discussion, this just seemed appropriate |
| 19:21.57 | Kraftman | i wasnt saying that myself |
| 19:22.03 | zenzelezz | start an online petition |
| 19:22.10 | Kraftman | i just forgot to add quotes |
| 19:22.45 | olafski | I know kraftman, it wasn't a serious suggestion anyway :P |
| 19:23.01 | Kraftman | srs? |
| 19:23.10 | olafski | it just seemed like a good continuation of that line.. people on facebook tend to think changing their display picture matters ;) |
| 19:23.16 | Kraftman | ahh yeh |
| 19:23.22 | Kraftman | well i guess its a start |
| 19:23.33 | Kraftman | its better than "we cant change anything so why bother trying" |
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| 19:23.50 | olafski | I don't think it's better than that =( |
| 19:24.03 | olafski | the latter at least seems more realistic ;) |
| 19:24.11 | Kraftman | lol |
| 19:24.36 | Kraftman | well if 50% off facebook changed their profile picture to something specific, im sure it would make the news |
| 19:25.23 | zenzelezz | news? Yes. Difference? No |
| 19:25.35 | Kraftman | well news is also a start |
| 19:25.40 | olafski | 50%.. is a lot of people |
| 19:25.46 | olafski | I doubt even 5% bothers with these things |
| 19:25.59 | Kraftman | if tunisia wasnt on the news, egypt wouldnt have happened |
| 19:26.33 | amro | it would have, just not yet |
| 19:26.47 | Kraftman | when then? another 30 years? |
| 19:26.50 | amro | no |
| 19:27.00 | amro | probably sometime closer to september |
| 19:27.17 | olafski | imagine that.. I have no clue what's going on in tunesia or egypt :) |
| 19:27.33 | Kraftman | i take it you're american? |
| 19:27.36 | olafski | haha |
| 19:27.39 | amro | no |
| 19:27.43 | olafski | was about to say "I feel american <flame on>" :) |
| 19:27.47 | Kraftman | lol :P |
| 19:27.51 | amro | I'm algerian |
| 19:28.05 | Kraftman | oh snap |
| 19:28.12 | Kraftman | ive never heard of algeria |
| 19:28.18 | amro | I take it you're american |
| 19:28.20 | olafski | man.. this thing where mounting makes the same sound as dismount is annoying |
| 19:28.22 | Cide | I take it you're american? |
| 19:28.24 | Cide | damn you amro |
| 19:28.26 | Kraftman | im just kidding :P |
| 19:28.30 | Kraftman | and im not :P |
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| 19:28.54 | Kraftman | brb |
| 19:29.53 | amro | tunisia was just the spark, just as bouazizi was just the spark in tunisia |
| 19:29.53 | olafski | ok! |
| 19:30.10 | mckenziemc | hmm, who would 'exists' apply to if i macroed /focus [exists] |
| 19:30.23 | olafski | think so |
| 19:30.33 | olafski | oh |
| 19:30.38 | olafski | 'who' .. :P |
| 19:30.38 | kd3|netbook | mc; your focus |
| 19:30.38 | Seerah | target? |
| 19:30.49 | kd3|netbook | wait, no. your target |
| 19:30.50 | Seerah | put it in the macro explain site |
| 19:30.50 | olafski | if you specify nothing else, your current target I'd say |
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| 19:31.10 | Seerah | http://www.macroexplain.com/ |
| 19:31.13 | Cide | you probably want |
| 19:31.20 | Fisker | i am kd3|netbook |
| 19:31.27 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.27 | olafski | oh that sounds nice seerah, gotta bookmark that ;) |
| 19:31.28 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.00 | Seerah | oh yeah, that's definitely better, Cide ;) |
| 19:32.20 | mckenziemc | no, that's not what i want :p |
| 19:32.25 | Cide | why not? |
| 19:32.33 | Ackis | Cide: can you do a /stopcasting [@focus,noexists] ? |
| 19:32.40 | Fisker | damn swedes Ackis |
| 19:32.43 | Cide | no? |
| 19:32.49 | Ackis | Fisker: bork bork bork? |
| 19:32.49 | Cide | at least I very much doubt so |
| 19:32.56 | Fisker | bork? |
| 19:33.00 | Cide | macro conditionals are for /cast and a few others basically |
| 19:33.20 | Ackis | ~google swedish chef |
| 19:33.20 | mitchnull | I'm pretty sure you can (/stopmacro [@focus, noexists]) |
| 19:33.29 | Cide | @focus includes exist, I believe |
| 19:33.33 | mckenziemc | "If the currently target unit exists then:" <- what |
| 19:33.38 | Cide | but maybe not |
| 19:33.48 | mckenziemc | targeted* |
| 19:33.49 | Cide | mckenziemc: what do you *want* |
| 19:35.34 | Ackis | #showtooltip; /stopmacro [@focus,noexists,noharm];/stopcasting; /cast [@focus, harm] Dick Laser |
| 19:35.40 | Ackis | wonders if that would wokr |
| 19:36.11 | Cide | naturally |
| 19:36.46 | Cide | if it does what you want it to do is another question |
| 19:36.50 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:36.50 | Ackis | if you have no focus, or your focus is friendly we don't do nothin, otherwise stop what you're doin and cast dick laser on a harmful target |
| 19:37.23 | Cide | should work |
| 19:38.34 | Ackis | I like macro polo games |
| 19:38.43 | Shirik | ohi |
| 19:39.02 | Ackis | hi Shirik |
| 19:39.06 | Ackis | why so busy? |
| 19:39.07 | Cide | hi |
| 19:39.10 | Cide | umad? |
| 19:39.25 | Ackis | Shirik is always mad |
| 19:40.12 | Shirik | what do you mean why so busy? |
| 19:40.29 | Ackis | You got a job you seem busier now that you have one |
| 19:41.08 | Shirik | sprint ends on friday |
| 19:41.22 | olafski | how odd ackis! |
| 19:41.34 | olafski | are you saying people with jobs could be more busy than people without? :o |
| 19:41.43 | Ackis | I know eh olafski? |
| 19:42.03 | mckenziemc | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/145938 <- why doesn't targetlasttarget work :( |
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| 19:43.43 | Cide | why do you do that |
| 19:45.46 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.59 | Cide | but my question remains |
| 19:46.29 | olafski | anyone have a ret pala? I just turned lvl 84 and have no clue what to spend my talent on, I already have all ret talents that sound useful and 5 in holy, 2 in prot :< |
| 19:46.54 | mckenziemc | Cide: overwrites my focus if i already have a focus and target |
| 19:47.03 | Cide | of course it does |
| 19:47.19 | Cide | what are you using it for was my question |
| 19:47.23 | Cide | which you yet again ignored |
| 19:48.02 | mckenziemc | why -wouldn't- i do that? |
| 19:48.14 | Cide | 1) because it's a fucking stupid macro 2) I'm asking for your intent |
| 19:49.16 | Lunessa | ~Cide++ |
| 19:49.31 | mckenziemc | how is it stupid? |
| 19:49.35 | Lunessa | And on that note... I'm out. |
| 19:49.42 | Shirik | You still have not answered his question |
| 19:50.21 | olafski | someone should write a reverse of that site seerah just linked ;) |
| 19:50.42 | mckenziemc | i'm aware Shirik |
| 19:50.44 | Cide | proof searching is boring |
| 19:50.55 | olafski | but what's keeping you from answering it, mckenziemc? |
| 19:50.56 | Computerpunk | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgrOD4PZzuY&feature=related |
| 19:50.58 | Cide | and too difficult to care |
| 19:50.58 | Computerpunk | check top rated condom |
| 19:51.05 | Computerpunk | fiskers Fisker. |
| 19:51.52 | mckenziemc | olafski: it's technically not relevant to the question i asked beforehand, which has not been answered either |
| 19:52.02 | Cide | your intent can reveal other approaches |
| 19:52.17 | olafski | why must people asking questions always be like that :< |
| 19:52.18 | Cide | and in other cases can reveal other appropriate responses to your question, such as "learn to fucking play" |
| 19:52.19 | mckenziemc | which is not what i asked for :) |
| 19:52.31 | Cide | then you can fish for help some place else |
| 19:52.32 | olafski | cide is trying to help, why not indulge him? it's not like explaining your intent will take long |
| 19:52.35 | olafski | (hopefully) |
| 19:52.47 | mckenziemc | see cide, this is why i'm not answering. you are being disrespectful |
| 19:52.54 | Cide | totally |
| 19:53.01 | olafski | I could say you're disrespectful too mckenziemc :< |
| 19:53.05 | Kraps | great episode of ncis this week |
| 19:53.10 | mckenziemc | how so |
| 19:53.26 | Ackis | FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT |
| 19:53.28 | olafski | you're asking a question, then when someone wants to help you start wasting their time |
| 19:53.28 | Ackis | or not |
| 19:53.40 | Kraps | fights with Ackis |
| 19:53.53 | Ackis | stabs Kraps with a piece of crap! |
| 19:54.05 | Kraps | :( |
| 19:54.07 | Ackis | One could say I gave 2 shits about that lul |
| 19:54.15 | mckenziemc | because it's not what i want, and because i'm choosing not to because of the disrespect i received |
| 19:54.33 | olafski | I see people asking questions in programming channels often, then when someone asks a followup question they say it doesn't matter.. sometimes it turns out they were approaching it all wrong but it takes an hour to find that out because they're not asking the right questions |
| 19:54.43 | mckenziemc | i'm not wasting his time anyway; he could do whatever it was he was doing till i responded |
| 19:54.45 | Cide | you realize I was disrespectful long after you 1) ignored my question, 2) refused to answer it citing "IT'S NOT WHAT I WANT QQ" |
| 19:55.02 | mckenziemc | no cide, i realized earlier but did not say anything |
| 19:55.05 | olafski | mckenziemc: if all you wanted to know was "does X work?" the obvious answer would be "TIAS" |
| 19:55.12 | Ackis | ilu Kraps |
| 19:55.23 | mckenziemc | i asked why /targetlasttarget was breaking |
| 19:55.24 | Cide | so you did realize that? |
| 19:55.25 | Kraps | ih8u Ackis |
| 19:55.36 | Dagmar | It's breaking because the rest of the macro is insane |
| 19:56.13 | Dagmar | ...although frankly I suspect it's probably actually working just like it's supposed to. |
| 19:56.14 | mckenziemc | olafski: there are more appropriate ways he could have posed his query |
| 19:56.38 | Cide | (20:43:51) Cide: why do you do that |
| 19:56.43 | Cide | super-inappropriate amirite |
| 19:57.04 | Dagmar | Cide: Frankly I'm suprised the global-O's aren't banning you from Freenode right now |
| 19:57.18 | Shirik | I got it |
| 19:57.24 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+q Cide!*@*] by Shirik |
| 19:57.27 | Dagmar | Hehe |
| 19:57.30 | Cide- | hi |
| 19:57.35 | mckenziemc | Cide: slightly disrespectful, but that was not the only problem |
| 19:57.37 | Dagmar | Putting the muddy crawfish in there just seems a little nuts |
| 19:57.41 | Kraps | ohai Cide- |
| 19:57.43 | Shirik | you do realize, Cide, that it didn't affect you at all |
| 19:57.43 | Cide- | that's not in the slightest disrespectful |
| 19:57.44 | Shirik | right? |
| 19:57.52 | Cide- | meh |
| 19:57.56 | Shirik | +v overrides bans of all forms |
| 19:57.59 | olafski | it was civil enough imo mckenziemc.. but the point remains, why do we have to be so secretive about this? you could just tell him, whether it's relevant or not.. he asked a question to which you could easily give the answer but you chose to ignore it |
| 19:58.45 | Shirik | in fact I think +q doesn't let you change nicks either |
| 19:58.49 | Shirik | (except you're +v) |
| 19:58.51 | Cide | also |
| 19:59.00 | Dagmar | *might* be part of a misdirection macro gone horribly wrong |
| 19:59.01 | Cide | I bet he's trying to create this awesome macro for cho'gall |
| 19:59.02 | Ackis | thinks this should be dropped, and Cide and mckenziemc be put on a time out for 2 seconds. |
| 19:59.20 | Cide | where he tries to mislead us with /focus and that crawfish |
| 19:59.28 | Kraps | 2 seconds? |
| 19:59.33 | Cide | but ultimately fails because that macro is for scrubs |
| 19:59.43 | Ackis | yeah Kraps, 2 seconds on teh interwebs is like an hour IRL |
| 20:00.01 | Kraps | because its a dream within a dream? |
| 20:00.24 | mckenziemc | i ceased asking for help after "(11:45:59 AM) Cide: but my question remains", olafski |
| 20:00.45 | Cide | now THAT is inappropriate |
| 20:00.46 | Cide | ban me now |
| 20:00.49 | Ackis | not just a dream within a dream, but a dream within a dream within a dream. |
| 20:01.09 | Ackis | calvino.freenode.net482: | [0] Ackis, [1] #wowuidev, [2] You're not channel operator |
| 20:01.10 | Ackis | Cide: ^ |
| 20:01.13 | Ackis | :( |
| 20:01.29 | Kraps | Ackis: we need to go deeper |
| 20:01.44 | Ackis | wait... a dream within a dream within a dream within a dream? |
| 20:01.44 | Cide | that's what she said |
| 20:01.47 | Ackis | 4 levels?!? |
| 20:02.11 | Kraps | thats impossible! |
| 20:02.23 | Ackis | if you want me to go more than 5 levels, I'm going to abuse lua_bot :P |
| 20:02.34 | Lopeppeppy | Be careful or I'll burn your companion cube. |
| 20:02.40 | Ackis | and boy will I ever abuse him *shifty* |
| 20:02.48 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: but it's just a dream |
| 20:03.22 | Ackis | when I was a kid, I watched a kids show where the entire show was just a dream, so for about 3 weeks after I kept on wondering if I was in a dream or not. |
| 20:03.26 | Ackis | maybe... I still am. |
| 20:03.32 | Ackis | well in that case it's a nightmare. |
| 20:03.34 | Ackis | :( |
| 20:03.48 | Lopeppeppy | Who shot Bobby?!? ... no one, it was a bad dream. |
| 20:04.12 | Ackis | that was almost before my time |
| 20:04.23 | Ackis | wait that was JR not Bobby |
| 20:04.25 | Ackis | derp |
| 20:04.40 | Lopeppeppy | JR, Bobby, whatever... |
| 20:04.56 | Nechckn | Dallas was sooooo boring, they needed such a stunt. |
| 20:05.38 | sylvanaar_work | Who shot JR, how can you not remember that |
| 20:05.43 | Nechckn | Think daytime soap opera with a tiny bit bigger budget. Eesh... still cannot understand why it was popular. |
| 20:06.34 | sylvanaar_work | its was the 80's , noone understands why many things were popular |
| 20:06.39 | mckenziemc | Cide: the words themselves were not offensive, but attitude is what matters. Coming from you, I can tell what your attitude was. |
| 20:06.53 | Cide | lawl |
| 20:07.02 | Cide | now I'm gonna be disrespectful |
| 20:07.06 | Cide | poor little baby |
| 20:07.08 | Cide | there |
| 20:07.31 | sylvanaar_work | passes the popcorn |
| 20:07.42 | Ackis | eats some popcorn but gets a popcorn surprise. |
| 20:08.55 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 20:08.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-qo Cide!*@* eir] by eir |
| 20:09.06 | Cide | ohnoo |
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| 20:09.24 | Cide | and here I thought I was getting banned for real! |
| 20:10.02 | mckenziemc | you guys wanted to know why i rescinded the request, that's the only reason i'm saying this. Explaining my reasoning is not being a 'baby'. |
| 20:10.43 | olafski | I thought we stopped talking about this 15 minutes ago :< |
| 20:10.43 | Cide | you're crying about a perceived attitude which in this case does not even exist |
| 20:11.06 | mckenziemc | a) i'm not crying, b) you are exhibiting said attitude right now |
| 20:11.16 | Cide | certainly |
| 20:11.51 | Cide | so the fact that you're "rescinding your request" because you thought I was being disrespectful because I was trying to help you with a more creative solution than trying to figure out the answer regarding a bug in the most horrible macro ever, in fact, makes you a baby |
| 20:12.17 | mckenziemc | no. you're failing to see the big picture |
| 20:12.26 | Cide | totally |
| 20:13.01 | Cide | it would have been simple for you to say "I don't need an alternative solution, so can we just focus on this specific problem?" or otherwise to illuminate the fact that you have no intention of actually being helpful in the matter |
| 20:13.24 | Cide | so that I could properly identify you as the fisheater you are and go back to doing useful things |
| 20:13.29 | mckenziemc | still failing to see the big picture |
| 20:13.45 | Cide | there is no big picture, this is about you and me having a conversation |
| 20:14.07 | Cide | the fact that your principles prohibit you from being a good asker does not bother me in the slightest |
| 20:14.27 | mckenziemc | if you had approached the question with a different attitude, i would not have taken offense, and would have been open to discussing alternate forms |
| 20:14.40 | Cide | I'm sorry |
| 20:14.55 | Cide | next time I'll shower roses over you before I ask why you are doing something |
| 20:15.13 | Kraps | whats a fisheater? |
| 20:15.16 | Cide | is that an acceptable level of courtesy according to your cultural status? |
| 20:15.28 | Cide | or do you need me to kiss your feet before I ask |
| 20:15.31 | mikma | no |
| 20:15.45 | Lopeppeppy | Those who eat fish others provide, versus fisherpeople, who do their own fishing. I would guess. |
| 20:16.16 | Lopeppeppy | (referencing Cogwheel's quote about macros and fishing) |
| 20:16.17 | Nechckn | lol, fisherpeople |
| 20:16.37 | Cide | my initial response was perfectly reasonable and you extrapolated my usual responses to idiots to your own case |
| 20:16.38 | Nechckn | fisherperson, perhaps, Lopeppeppy? |
| 20:16.43 | Kraps | give a man a fish etc... |
| 20:16.48 | cogwheel | http://blog.cogwheel.info/2010/12/totally-random-made-up-term-for-day-4.html |
| 20:16.54 | mckenziemc | note that the only things i have done to you that could be disrespective in and of themselves in this discussion have been ignoring your question, and calling you & your attitude disrespectful. in return, you repeatedly mock me |
| 20:16.57 | Cide | and since you refused to answer I repeated my question in a more adequate tone |
| 20:17.06 | Cide | I'm definitely mocking you |
| 20:17.25 | Cide | but in no way was I being unreasonable for the first 5 minutes of discussion |
| 20:17.30 | Lopeppeppy | Fisher Price Fisher People! |
| 20:17.31 | mckenziemc | and that is the issue regarding attitude |
| 20:18.09 | Cide | the point is that you acted that way before I was in the slightest bit disrespectful, so your argument does not fly |
| 20:18.19 | Cide | now just stop it so we can get on with our lives |
| 20:18.51 | mckenziemc | still disagree, but i'm willing to end it here |
| 20:19.41 | amro | but i just got the popcorn |
| 20:20.00 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 20:20.35 | Sixen | lol cogwheel |
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| 20:20.58 | Kraftman | back |
| 20:21.02 | Kraftman | looks lik ei missed a lot |
| 20:21.17 | cogwheel | Sixen: I think of you every time i look in my bank |
| 20:21.30 | cogwheel | http://www.wowhead.com/item=43840/sixens-skullcap |
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| 20:21.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 20:21.48 | Sixen | :D |
| 20:21.54 | Sixen | Mines in my bank because i'm a Mage |
| 20:21.55 | Sixen | :( |
| 20:22.11 | Sixen | I was doing quests for a Gnome named "Cogwheel" earlier :D |
| 20:22.33 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
| 20:22.35 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 20:22.37 | Fisker | i want a tablet |
| 20:22.42 | cogwheel | i socketed two of myself into my headgear |
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| 20:22.49 | Sixen | hai |
| 20:23.11 | cogwheel | sends Fisker a roughly flat, roughly rectangular piece of rock |
| 20:24.36 | Fisker | stop crashing my forums cogwheel |
| 20:24.45 | Fisker | i don't want an ipad cogwheel |
| 20:24.48 | Fisker | i want a tablet |
| 20:24.58 | Kraps | "It suggests that we live in a dream reality peopled by projections of our own unconscious guilt, and have buried deep within our minds the truth that we are innocent, & only dreaming a dream of guilt, separation and fear." |
| 20:25.03 | cogwheel | ~dict tablet |
| 20:25.24 | Cide | ~dict pad |
| 20:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | Sixen, you can do quests for Peppy too. :) |
| 20:25.31 | Cide | fail |
| 20:25.45 | Cide | wtf is that honestly |
| 20:26.03 | Fisker | cogwheel steve jobs isn't part of your system |
| 20:26.07 | Fisker | he won't conform to dictionaries |
| 20:26.26 | cogwheel | you said you wanted a tablet and you don't want an ipad |
| 20:26.31 | cogwheel | so i sending you a tablet |
| 20:26.31 | Kraps | the heck is wrong with my internets? chat just got spammed with the last 20 lines |
| 20:26.38 | Fisker | no you're not cogwheel |
| 20:26.42 | Fisker | you're sending me an ipad |
| 20:26.47 | Fisker | because steve jobs says so |
| 20:30.46 | Kraps | "In ACIM the key idea is that what we think of as reality is in fact a dream - that there is no difference between the dreams we see at night, and what we see with our eyes open. Both are projections of our mind, which is trying to escape a core guilt by projecting guilt outside of itself onto projected 'dream figures'." |
| 20:30.51 | Kraps | wat |
| 20:31.04 | Kraps | i strongly disagree |
| 20:31.25 | sylvanaar_work | zzzzz |
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| 20:32.24 | Kraps | otoh, it would kind of be like groundhog day |
| 20:33.00 | cogwheel | some sloppy brain use going on in that one |
| 20:35.21 | Fisker | WHAT WHAT WHAT? |
| 20:35.33 | Fisker | Did Blizzard finally enable that ticket response time estimater? |
| 20:36.32 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 20:37.03 | Lopeppeppy | I feel bad for their techs. |
| 20:37.25 | Fisker | only took them like 5 years D: |
| 20:38.01 | Lopeppeppy | Because as soon as you give an estimate, you get very unhappy customers. |
| 20:38.29 | Lopeppeppy | Unhappy that it will be 20 minutes. Unhappy that the estimate was 20 minutes and it took 24. You have to spend time soothing the unhappy before you even get to the actual ticket. |
| 20:39.13 | Fisker | you forgot one Lopeppeppy |
| 20:39.23 | Fisker | unhappy that the estimate was 24 minutes but it took 20 minutes |
| 20:39.28 | Kraps | cogwheel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Course_in_Miracles |
| 20:39.46 | Fisker | think they're making a really conservative estimate though |
| 20:39.58 | Lopeppeppy | If they start out conservative they could be okay. |
| 20:40.01 | Fisker | people here are saying they're like half a day off |
| 20:40.21 | Lopeppeppy | But yes, Fisker, there will be people who go afk for 23 minutes, and the GM has been and gone, who get cranky. Gonna happen. |
| 20:40.38 | Fisker | doesn't even have to have a reason Lopeppeppy |
| 20:40.46 | Fisker | complaining is the new black |
| 20:40.51 | Lopeppeppy | hates the sheeples! |
| 20:41.28 | Fisker | for example this guy was mad because Blizzard fixed the "exploit" to disenchant alchemist trinkets |
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| 20:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | You're my expert on rage, Fisker-dear. :) |
| 20:41.48 | Fisker | now he's mad that they haven't fixed another supposed exploit with blacksmithing and engineering to disenchant their items |
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| 20:45.42 | Ackis | is there a "firebug" for chrome? |
| 20:46.22 | olafski | what do you want to do with it ackis? |
| 20:46.28 | olafski | chrome has a lot of that stuff built in |
| 20:46.46 | olafski | all the stuff I need anyway =( |
| 20:46.46 | Ackis | playing around with CSS on my guild website (new to CSS) was suggested I get firebug to make changes dymanically |
| 20:47.01 | olafski | ah chrome does that |
| 20:47.06 | olafski | right click something and choose inspect element |
| 20:47.10 | olafski | you'll figure out the rest I think :) |
| 20:47.36 | solo|work | Yep. You can make it pop out through the tools menu as well Ackis. I used firebug for a while, but I only dev in chrome now |
| 20:47.52 | solo|work | it is teh <3 |
| 20:48.25 | olafski | quite good yes |
| 20:48.40 | Adys | anyone familiar with the irc protocol? |
| 20:48.42 | *** join/#wowuidev mojosdojo- (~mojosdojo@p4FE639C9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:48.46 | Adys | Shirik |
| 20:48.48 | Adys | you wrote a bot |
| 20:48.49 | Adys | help me |
| 20:49.52 | Kraftman | adys: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:50.03 | Ackis | thanks guys, didn't know about that |
| 20:50.07 | Fisker | neural net lørning processor Kraftman |
| 20:50.16 | Adys | <<< ':barjavel.freenode.net 251 Addybot :There are 501 users and 69461 invisible on 26 servers\r\n' |
| 20:50.25 | Adys | trying to understand what the 251 means |
| 20:50.31 | Kraftman | ahh |
| 20:50.34 | Kraftman | no idea, sorry |
| 20:50.52 | Adys | jnwhiteh: any idea? |
| 20:51.17 | jnwhiteh | one sec |
| 20:51.29 | Fisker | think it's random bs by the server |
| 20:51.29 | mitchnull | adys: have you read http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/rfc.html ? |
| 20:51.44 | Adys | yeah thanks but no thanks, the spec is ginormous |
| 20:51.53 | Kraftman | http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ |
| 20:51.55 | Adys | cant find the meaning of the numbers there |
| 20:51.57 | amro | Adys: ... |
| 20:52.01 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 20:52.02 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 20:52.05 | jnwhiteh | how can you not? |
| 20:52.19 | Fisker | or maybe |
| 20:52.22 | Fisker | http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/chapter2.html#c2_4 ? |
| 20:52.28 | Fisker | could sound like that |
| 20:52.31 | Adys | ive read it, I cant find the meaning of this specifically |
| 20:52.52 | jnwhiteh | 251 RPL_LUSERCLIENT |
| 20:52.52 | jnwhiteh | ":There are <integer> users and <integer> \ |
| 20:52.52 | jnwhiteh | invisible on <integer> servers" |
| 20:53.10 | jnwhiteh | quite obviously listed there |
| 20:53.15 | jnwhiteh | on Page 54 of the text RFC |
| 20:53.16 | Adys | http://www.irc-mania.de/?go=rfc2812-numerics |
| 20:53.17 | Adys | found it |
| 20:53.19 | Adys | thanks |
| 20:53.34 | jnwhiteh | http://www.mirc.com/help/rfc1459.html and search for 251 |
| 20:54.15 | Kraps | mubarak is talking |
| 20:54.32 | mitchnull | adys: that was sorta lame :) |
| 20:54.46 | Adys | what was? |
| 20:55.06 | mitchnull | your failure to find "251" in the rfc... |
| 20:55.20 | Kraps | yeah, hes not stepping down |
| 20:55.26 | Adys | ... its on page 54 |
| 20:55.29 | Adys | wtf do you expect? |
| 20:55.33 | mitchnull | ^F ? |
| 20:56.19 | Adys | *shrugs* i didn't think i'd find it like that, hence why i asked, jnwhiteh answered and i found it |
| 20:56.25 | Adys | i don't know wtf your problem is. |
| 20:56.39 | Kraps | haha http://twitter.com/#!/search/%23reasonsmubarakislate |
| 20:56.40 | mitchnull | my problem? it's your problem |
| 20:57.01 | jnwhiteh | back to writing |
| 20:57.24 | mitchnull | my problem is testing whether they fixed SetHorizTile or not |
| 20:57.29 | Adys | mitchnull: to a question you don't know the answer to, you're the least helpful person yet you still do answer. and when someone else solves the problem, you're busy being a douche |
| 20:57.57 | amro | Kraps: the speech is crap so far |
| 20:58.07 | Adys | i was stupid not to look for a single-page rfc and search for 251, yeah, but you're just an ass here |
| 20:58.15 | Kraps | amro: yeah |
| 20:58.33 | mitchnull | erm, I found the answer by the time jnwhiteh answered, but then it would've been pointless to paste the relevant section here. sorry for being 2 secs late and also sorry for considering you "lame" for not finding it on your own |
| 20:59.08 | Adys | you need to look up the definition of lame |
| 20:59.35 | mitchnull | also, not reading an RFC when you implement a protocol (any one) is Doing It Wrong |
| 20:59.39 | Dagmar | LESS QQ PLZ |
| 21:00.08 | Adys | mitchnull: I am reading it; not reading what the other person is saying when you're arguing with them is doing it even more wrong. |
| 21:00.41 | mitchnull | meh, ok. forget it. I didn't think you'd get so offended. sorry. |
| 21:00.55 | amro | I love how the crowd stopped listening |
| 21:00.57 | Seerah | alright, now everyone hug |
| 21:01.04 | Adys | i'm not offended, you just bother me. |
| 21:01.27 | mitchnull | feel free to /ignore. I almost did that with Cide :) |
| 21:01.49 | mitchnull | but then I'd miss some drama and sometimes reading irc drama is fun |
| 21:02.19 | mitchnull | meh, I deleted my debug code :( |
| 21:02.28 | Kraps | hes transferring power, whatever that means |
| 21:03.02 | Fisker | assuming control |
| 21:03.05 | Adys | mitchnull: see that's what i dont get. i've had tons of disagreements with tons of people, yet ive never had to ignore anyone. if you stand around a chan for a while and notice that you have to put a bunch of users in ignore, something's rotten elsewhere |
| 21:03.07 | Dagmar | Probably to his twin brother |
| 21:03.19 | Fisker | what's with all the mubarak hate |
| 21:03.28 | Dagmar | That man isn't leaving--he's just spinning more bullshit to try to keep everyone distracted while he hunts down and arrests the rest of the country |
| 21:03.30 | Adys | Fisker: we know it's you |
| 21:03.35 | mitchnull | adys: erm, you're jumping to the wrong conclusions... |
| 21:03.36 | Kraps | haters gonna hate |
| 21:03.53 | mitchnull | I haven't ignored anyone, and only considered it for exactly one person here... |
| 21:03.53 | amro | Kraps: crowd is chanting "leave" |
| 21:03.59 | amro | as was expected |
| 21:04.02 | foxlit | I've ignored someone |
| 21:04.04 | foxlit | Is it you? |
| 21:04.04 | Kraps | also, shoes |
| 21:04.10 | foxlit | Or perhaps you? :P |
| 21:04.22 | Adys | it might very well be yourself |
| 21:04.41 | olafski | I don't really see a problem with ignoring people if you repeatedly dislike their attitude =) |
| 21:05.01 | Nechckn | Kraps it is constitutionally easier for him to transfer control than to just leave - at least from what folks were discussing last night. |
| 21:05.30 | Nechckn | Basically, he is "gone" but technically still in it until September, which should please most of the folks |
| 21:05.42 | Adys | olafski: everything right with the world |
| 21:05.46 | Nechckn | err.. Novemeber... whichever |
| 21:06.00 | olafski | adys: eh.. what? :( |
| 21:06.01 | Kraps | Nechckn: not where im standing, shoes |
| 21:07.51 | amro | Nechckn: the constitutional excuse is bullshit |
| 21:07.58 | Nechckn | Well, were he to resign, they would need to hold elections asap - which leaves no time for the people to actually learn about/think about their options. |
| 21:08.51 | amro | it's bullshit, constitutionally speaking he's not obligated to resign either |
| 21:09.05 | amro | when you're revolting, laws written decades prior don't mean a damn |
| 21:09.34 | olafski | adys: I'm just saying you (not you specifically) can't agree with everyone.. I don't mind disagreeing but if people act bad about it, it's alot easier for me to just ignore them than try to reason with it :) ignoring is a little inconvenient at first but it gets easier |
| 21:09.39 | Nechckn | And then you end up with decisions all based on adrenaline/emotion |
| 21:09.52 | Kraps | [04:09:02]<Nachlader>"I'll step down after the elections in September... in 2030" *trollfaec* |
| 21:10.54 | Adys | olafski: ignoring people you disagree with is as mature as putting fingers in your ears and going "LALALALALALA" while they talk. if they act badly about it, there are other ways to end a conversation |
| 21:11.33 | olafski | adys: I didn't say I ignore people I disagree with =) ending a conversation is indeed easy, but for some people I'd rather not see the conversations they have with other people either |
| 21:11.47 | Adys | i know, speaking in general |
| 21:12.18 | olafski | alright +) |
| 21:12.59 | Nechckn | No matter what, though, amro Just hope that the everyday folks end up with a better lot than before. With so many forces at work, that is the uncertainty. |
| 21:13.01 | olafski | I think irssi can actually also hide messages that people direct at people that are on ignore.. but I don't really trust that :P |
| 21:13.39 | Kraps | "Egyptian president vows he will stay in office until September, and will not bow down to 'foreign pressure'." |
| 21:13.48 | mitchnull | grr.. why did I remove the debug code ?! :( |
| 21:14.08 | Kraps | i heard Egyptians are 'foreign pressure' lolololololol |
| 21:19.07 | olafski | grr this mount sound is annoying |
| 21:23.15 | Dagmar | They're going to wind up dragging that man into the streets and tearing him apart limb from limb |
| 21:24.48 | Arrowmaster | as long as somebody gets it on video |
| 21:24.56 | Kraps | ^ |
| 21:25.08 | Arrowmaster | good audio would be a plus too |
| 21:25.46 | Kraps | why havent the stormed the gvmnt buildings yet? |
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| 21:26.49 | Arrowmaster | well theyve been peaceful so far, they will likely stay peaceful until they are pushed to react |
| 21:27.01 | Kraps | like now? |
| 21:27.05 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 21:28.04 | amro | they don't need to do anything like that |
| 21:31.37 | Dagmar | Like having anyone who looks like a "leader" being arrested, beaten, and jailed |
| 21:31.52 | Dagmar | ...which is pretty much going on from some reports |
| 21:32.48 | Dagmar | Remember, he said he would step down in *September*. That is just so far away as to be meaningless. |
| 21:33.22 | Dagmar | You can make a lot of people disappear in that many months |
| 21:34.27 | Kraps | hey its another politician |
| 21:34.37 | Kraftman | http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/ |
| 21:34.45 | Kraftman | omar suleiman speaking now |
| 21:36.24 | mckenziemc | #wowuidev is not happy today :( |
| 21:36.51 | olafski | why not? |
| 21:37.24 | mckenziemc | there've been at least 3 contentions today :o |
| 21:37.49 | olafski | I don't really feel like looking up that word.. is it like a fight? :P |
| 21:38.08 | mckenziemc | ~define contention |
| 21:38.09 | purl | Use ~dict for definitions. |
| 21:38.16 | mckenziemc | ~dict contention |
| 21:38.24 | mckenziemc | wtf purl |
| 21:38.27 | mckenziemc | yeah basically |
| 21:38.41 | mckenziemc | errm that's not the definition i would use O.o |
| 21:38.52 | olafski | no worries I have purl on ignore :P |
| 21:39.02 | mckenziemc | hah |
| 21:39.32 | olafski | but don't things like that happen every day here? =) |
| 21:39.33 | Kraps | HOLY CRAP WHY ARE BOTH OF THEM TALKING ABOUT OUTSIDE PRESSURE, THE PRESSURE IS IN THE COUNTRY |
| 21:41.32 | Kraftman | "do not listen to satallite television" |
| 21:41.43 | Kraftman | satellite* |
| 21:41.50 | Kraftman | hmm, i woner why they are sayign that |
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| 21:46.40 | Kraps | http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/10/mass-effect-3-soundtrack-composed-by-clint-mansell-of-moon-and-requiem-for-a-dream-fame/ |
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| 22:00.23 | olafski | seems not many people are interested kraps :( the requiem for a dream soundtrack is kinda nice.. though I've never seen the movie |
| 22:00.24 | mitchnull | hrmp.. horizTile/vertTile still broken :( |
| 22:00.49 | olafski | .. nor have I played a mass effect game for that matter ;p |
| 22:03.43 | Ackis | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/1fbad743-7f26-49a6-8af0-85028b609cb3.jpg |
| 22:03.51 | Ackis | olafski: I want to give you crabs for valentine's day |
| 22:04.09 | olafski | no thanks |
| 22:04.12 | olafski | I don't like them |
| 22:04.17 | Ackis | you want them |
| 22:04.29 | olafski | why would I want crabs :( |
| 22:04.42 | Ackis | look at what I linked! |
| 22:04.55 | olafski | I did |
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| 22:08.33 | mckenziemc | is there a one-line command for swapping focus and target |
| 22:08.52 | foxlit | no |
| 22:09.58 | Kraps | [05:01:03]<olafski>.. nor have I played a mass effect game for that matter <---- that is terrible |
| 22:10.05 | Kraps | a tragedy |
| 22:10.20 | olafski | :P |
| 22:11.18 | Kraps | Ackis: i dont think thats a fail, its on purpose |
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| 22:16.05 | kd3|netbook | ooh boy. tinderbox: lit |
| 22:17.20 | Kraps | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/funny-facebook-fails-you-break-it-you-buy-it.jpg |
| 22:17.37 | olafski | omg old |
| 22:17.46 | olafski | saw that hours ago while I was at work |
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| 22:19.57 | Kraps | facebooking at work? tut tut |
| 22:20.21 | olafski | failbooking :) |
| 22:20.40 | olafski | was so bored.. I looked at failbook, artoftrolling, senorgif.. probably some others too |
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| 22:22.39 | jadakren | Kraps: masseffect sucks brah |
| 22:22.49 | jadakren | tetris is where it's at |
| 22:22.57 | Kraps | pong |
| 22:23.01 | Kraps | bitch |
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| 22:23.06 | airtonix | ima kill you |
| 22:23.32 | Kraps | so airtonix whats with the nick? |
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| 22:23.52 | airtonix | does it upset you dear bother ? |
| 22:24.16 | Kraps | no, just asking |
| 22:24.37 | Kraps | what does jadakren mean' |
| 22:24.47 | airtonix | it's the nick i used for my toons in wow, therefore using it = away |
| 22:25.04 | TC-Work | right, because thats universally known |
| 22:25.19 | Kraps | what TC-Work said |
| 22:25.37 | airtonix | hoo wait |
| 22:25.45 | airtonix | let me loksee back here |
| 22:25.46 | olafski | and here I thought irc had a mechanism for marking yourself as away |
| 22:25.47 | olafski | silly me |
| 22:25.48 | airtonix | no |
| 22:25.49 | airtonix | nooo |
| 22:25.52 | airtonix | nup |
| 22:25.56 | airtonix | didn't see it |
| 22:26.23 | airtonix | olafski: using that gets you kick/banned from certain channels unfortunately |
| 22:26.30 | Adys | man, ubuntu natty is the most alpha of all alphas ive used |
| 22:26.31 | olafski | it does? wtf |
| 22:26.32 | airtonix | zieghiel |
| 22:26.38 | olafski | I usually ban people for using those lame away nicks |
| 22:26.43 | olafski | not the other way around :S |
| 22:26.48 | airtonix | lold |
| 22:27.49 | olafski | what if all 176 people here would change their nick every time they came back on irc or left it.. /away is quite silent =( |
| 22:27.58 | olafski | anywho from what I've seen/heard about mass effect I don't feel like I'm missing out.. and now I'm off to bed :) |
| 22:29.44 | Kraps | olafski: |
| 22:29.52 | Kraps | take that back |
| 22:29.58 | mckenziemc | does /focus <name> work for party / raid members? |
| 22:30.00 | cogwheel | Fisker: i found you the perfect tablet |
| 22:30.01 | cogwheel | http://www.wowhead.com/item=63128/troll-tablet |
| 22:30.33 | Kraps | i lol'd cogwheel |
| 22:33.32 | mckenziemc | or does it only work for unit specifiers (target, party1, etc) |
| 22:33.58 | Kraps | fisker is a jerk http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/funny-facebook-fails-blue-although-poorly-timed-has-a-point.jpg |
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| 22:48.11 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/#!5757307/the-doctor-who-said-video-games-cause-rape-explains-what-she-meant |
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| 22:58.33 | mitchnull | is there a reliable way of getting the real dimensions of a texture (file) ? |
| 22:58.56 | mitchnull | texture:GetWidth() seems to return 0 during load |
| 22:59.21 | cogwheel | ask about it after load perhaps? |
| 23:00.33 | A-KO | this new IE is win |
| 23:00.43 | mitchnull | hrmp. it's still 0 in the first OnUpdate |
| 23:07.41 | nightcracker | eehm |
| 23:08.04 | nightcracker | I might be wrong, but ain't texture:GetWidth() returning the width of the texture object in-game and not the width of the texture itself? |
| 23:08.17 | cogwheel | sounds about right |
| 23:08.35 | mitchnull | only if you anchor it in a way to have a defined width |
| 23:08.45 | mitchnull | (or set width/height explicitely) |
| 23:08.47 | nightcracker | or if you use SetWidth() |
| 23:08.48 | nightcracker | :) |
| 23:08.57 | cogwheel | in which case it would be something other than 0 |
| 23:09.03 | mitchnull | but I don't |
| 23:09.13 | mitchnull | I want to get the real size of the texture |
| 23:09.15 | cogwheel | it's simply the wrong function |
| 23:09.18 | nightcracker | You don't, ingame |
| 23:09.21 | nightcracker | AFAIK |
| 23:09.25 | mitchnull | yes I do |
| 23:09.30 | mitchnull | just not during load... |
| 23:09.49 | mitchnull | it returns the correct values if I change the texture from the config |
| 23:09.53 | nightcracker | :GetWidth() returns something different while playing? |
| 23:09.58 | mitchnull | yes |
| 23:10.05 | nightcracker | like 128? |
| 23:10.11 | mitchnull | yeah, or 256 |
| 23:10.16 | nightcracker | hmm, didn't know that |
| 23:10.33 | mitchnull | (if it's not set otherwise, of course) |
| 23:10.44 | cogwheel | something doesn't sound right |
| 23:10.52 | cogwheel | i think you're thinking something is working when it's not actually |
| 23:10.57 | cogwheel | by coincidence |
| 23:10.59 | mitchnull | indeed it is |
| 23:11.07 | mitchnull | I'm testing with different border textures |
| 23:11.17 | mitchnull | and the printed results match what I see on screen |
| 23:11.44 | mitchnull | just not "at first" (during load) |
| 23:12.25 | cogwheel | it's not supposed to |
| 23:12.35 | cogwheel | it's supposed to be the size of the region |
| 23:12.46 | cogwheel | are you sure your region doesn't just happen to be the same size |
| 23:12.47 | mitchnull | for example, the achievement border is 512x64 |
| 23:12.55 | mitchnull | most of the rest is 256x32 |
| 23:13.03 | mitchnull | some are 128x16 |
| 23:13.18 | mitchnull | no. I change it and I see different values |
| 23:13.34 | nightcracker | Just wondering, what are you trying to do? |
| 23:13.40 | mitchnull | "square clean" is 64x8 for example |
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| 23:13.48 | cogwheel | i think you're trying to rely on a glitch or a side effect or something |
| 23:13.58 | cogwheel | i'm not saying you're not getting the result you want |
| 23:14.00 | mitchnull | trying to get the texture size |
| 23:14.18 | cogwheel | i'm saying the fact that you're getting a result you expect is what's unexpected |
| 23:14.25 | mitchnull | ;) |
| 23:16.39 | mitchnull | so, there shouldn't be a way to get real texture dimensions? that's kinda sad |
| 23:16.55 | cogwheel | what could you do with that info? |
| 23:17.03 | cogwheel | the game doesn't do pixel-perfect rendering |
| 23:17.06 | mitchnull | I could tile the border correctly |
| 23:17.33 | cogwheel | borders are done proportionally to the size of the texture |
| 23:17.40 | mitchnull | (that's another side-effect of the broken SetHorzTile/SetVertTile) |
| 23:17.55 | cogwheel | if the proportions are the same it shouldn't look any different (just blurrier or shareper) |
| 23:18.10 | mitchnull | they're tiled |
| 23:18.56 | mitchnull | and right now you can only tile it with specifying an "out-of-bounds" TexCoord |
| 23:18.57 | nightcracker | One thing you should know about WoW developing, a pixel is a "virtual format" called in by blizzard that has nothing to do with a real pixel on the screen |
| 23:18.58 | cogwheel | so maybe the GetHorizTile function might help? (no docs yet) |
| 23:19.12 | cogwheel | same is true for CSS |
| 23:19.13 | mitchnull | night: I know that |
| 23:19.16 | cogwheel | :P |
| 23:19.19 | nightcracker | ok, just checking :) |
| 23:19.29 | mitchnull | cog: yeah, it would help. if it worked |
| 23:19.44 | mitchnull | thing is, it only works from xml |
| 23:20.00 | mitchnull | and any subsequent SetTexture, SetTexCoord breaks it |
| 23:21.01 | mitchnull | well, those two used together surely do. I"m not 100% sure about just SetTexture |
| 23:21.26 | mitchnull | will check that one, but I don't have high hopes... |
| 23:21.27 | cogwheel | settexcoord is the important part |
| 23:21.40 | cogwheel | because of that, it really shouldn't matter what the actual pixel size is |
| 23:22.23 | mitchnull | but it is (if you do the tiling the "old" way) |
| 23:23.07 | mitchnull | say, you have a 128 px length and you have to tile a 32px texture over it. then you'd SetTexCoord to 128/32 |
| 23:23.29 | mitchnull | (like, SetTexCoord(0, .125, 0, 128/32) |
| 23:24.15 | cogwheel | see? |
| 23:24.18 | mitchnull | if you don't know the texture height, you don't know how many times it fits |
| 23:24.21 | cogwheel | you're turning pixels into proportions |
| 23:24.30 | mitchnull | erm, yes |
| 23:24.44 | mitchnull | the frame has the same "virtual" pixels |
| 23:24.48 | cogwheel | You shouldn't bother trying to tile pixel perfect |
| 23:24.55 | cogwheel | imo |
| 23:25.26 | mitchnull | yeah, guess that'll happen (as there's no good way to do it ;) |
| 23:26.01 | mitchnull | I'll give this xml thing another try thogh, maybe if I omit SetTexCoord it'll somehow work |
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| 23:26.30 | mitchnull | although I don't think SetTexCoord "sticks" for subsequent SetTextures()s |
| 23:27.39 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3|netbook (~kd3@wowwiki/Kaydeethree) |
| 23:27.56 | Primer | Is there any assignment of variable by reference in Lua? |
| 23:29.04 | mitchnull | hm. SetTexCoord actually sticks |
| 23:29.19 | mitchnull | maybe not all is lost then |
| 23:29.44 | kd3|netbook | sigh |
| 23:29.49 | mitchnull | primer: what exactly do you mean? (there's usually much confusion about this on ##java :) |
| 23:29.51 | kd3|netbook | wonders how long until egypt boils over |
| 23:29.53 | mckenziemc | hates telephones. |
| 23:30.31 | mckenziemc | Primer: its name + the containing table == the reference |
| 23:30.33 | Primer | mitchnull: well, I was hoping that variable assignment from a table was always by reference |
| 23:31.01 | mitchnull | it is |
| 23:31.01 | Primer | let me show you the code |
| 23:31.34 | mitchnull | variables of type table are references to the actual tables which are passed/assigned by value |
| 23:31.40 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/flight-hud/blame/trunk/FlightHUD.lua line 1749 |
| 23:32.02 | amro | what? tables are passed by reference |
| 23:32.19 | mitchnull | amro: that's what I'm saying :) |
| 23:32.26 | Primer | that's where I assign to a local variable, then I change the values of the table members of the local variable, expecting them to have changed in the original variable |
| 23:32.33 | amro | "which are passed/assigned by value" |
| 23:32.42 | mitchnull | the references |
| 23:32.48 | mitchnull | are passed by value :) |
| 23:32.58 | amro | the statement was ambiguous |
| 23:33.05 | mitchnull | it always is |
| 23:33.17 | Primer | So in my example code, that _should_ work? |
| 23:33.25 | mitchnull | primer: yes |
| 23:33.27 | Primer | It seems to have been working this entire time |
| 23:33.40 | mitchnull | if you want a separate table, you have to deep-copy it yourself |
| 23:34.24 | Primer | no, I just wanted to avoid a ton of FlightHUD.waypointframe[frameid].<-- several lines prefixed by the original table |
| 23:35.26 | Primer | it's just very odd, the symptons I'm seeing...either I still have concurrently running event handlers, or...I don't know |
| 23:35.27 | mitchnull | sure, local t = FlightHUD.waypointframe[frameid]; t.lala = lulu; |
| 23:35.39 | Primer | so explain this: |
| 23:35.48 | amro | lala and lulu have got to be the gayest placeholder variable names |
| 23:35.50 | mitchnull | there are no "concurrently run event handlers" |
| 23:35.55 | Primer | lua> local foo; foo.bar = 1; bar = foo.bar; bar = 2; print (foo.bar) |
| 23:35.55 | lua_bot | Primer: luabot:1: attempt to index local 'foo' (a nil value) |
| 23:36.01 | nightcracker | what's wrong with foo and bar? |
| 23:36.12 | Primer | mitchnull: ahh but there are! |
| 23:36.58 | Jamash | no, there are not! |
| 23:37.07 | mitchnull | llua> local foo = {}; foo.bar = 1; bar = foo.bar; bar = 2; print(foo.bar); |
| 23:37.09 | Jamash | wow lua is single-threaded |
| 23:37.17 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/flight-hud/blame/trunk/FlightHUD.lua line 1113 |
| 23:37.21 | mitchnull | lua> local foo = {}; foo.bar = 1; bar = foo.bar; bar = 2; print(foo.bar); |
| 23:37.21 | lua_bot | mitchnull: 1 |
| 23:37.39 | Primer | mitchnull: that's what I meant, = {} |
| 23:37.39 | mitchnull | oh, yeah, stupid |
| 23:38.02 | Primer | I had typed that in #wowace, but didn't c/p it here, just typed it |
| 23:38.11 | mitchnull | lua> local foo = {}; foo.bar = { [baz] = 1 }; bar = foo.bar; bar.baz = 2; print(foo.bar.baz); |
| 23:38.12 | lua_bot | mitchnull: luabot:1: table index is nil |
| 23:38.17 | mitchnull | grr |
| 23:38.45 | mitchnull | lua> local foo = {}; foo.bar = { ["baz"] = 1 }; bar = foo.bar; bar.baz = 2; print(foo.bar.baz); |
| 23:38.45 | lua_bot | mitchnull: 2 |
| 23:38.50 | mitchnull | there |
| 23:40.08 | Primer | anyhow, line 1113 in that file...I had to add a "already running this" to prevent a C stack overflow |
| 23:40.28 | Primer | which, afaik, is infinite recursion |
| 23:41.26 | mitchnull | infinite recursion != "concurrently run event handlers" |
| 23:41.42 | Primer | So explain how that function is being called again before it finishes |
| 23:42.58 | Primer | Yes, I understand how event based crap works, and that calls are asynchronous |
| 23:43.25 | Cide | they are? |
| 23:43.38 | Primer | whatever, you know what I mean |
| 23:43.45 | Primer | shit happens asynchronously |
| 23:43.45 | Cide | actually I don't |
| 23:43.49 | Cide | they do? |
| 23:43.55 | Cide | wow is single threaded |
| 23:43.59 | Cide | including the interface |
| 23:44.05 | Primer | then explain why I need that code |
| 23:44.13 | Cide | I haven't followed the discussion |
| 23:44.21 | Cide | so no idea what you're talking about |
| 23:44.24 | Primer | http://ceregatti.org/svnweb/index.cgi/flight-hud/blame/trunk/FlightHUD.lua line 1113 |
| 23:44.25 | Cide | but wow is single threaded |
| 23:44.43 | kd3|netbook | maybe you're subscribed to the event more than once? |
| 23:44.44 | mitchnull | primer: you trigger QUEST_POI_UPDATE or QUEST_LOG_UPDATE from your ObjectivesChanged() somehow |
| 23:44.52 | kd3|netbook | though I dunno if that's doable in wow |
| 23:45.15 | amro | Cide: it's not, but the interface runs in the same thread always |
| 23:45.43 | Primer | mitchnull: heh, I took that code verbatim from tomtom |
| 23:45.45 | Cide | yeah, that |
| 23:45.56 | Cide | actually I'm not sure it isn't otherwise |
| 23:46.05 | Cide | if you lock up the interface you lock up the client |
| 23:46.23 | mitchnull | primer: instead of returning when you notice the recursion, cause some error and check stack trace in buggrabber |
| 23:46.38 | Cide | you used to be able to cast multiple spells off one hardware event by making a busy loop in the interface code |
| 23:46.58 | Primer | mitchnull: I didn't come up with that solution. Note the credit in the comment |
| 23:47.31 | Cide | doesn't matter |
| 23:47.35 | mitchnull | primer: change line 1115 to self:BlowMeUp() |
| 23:47.38 | Cide | what mitchnull says is true |
| 23:47.59 | mitchnull | then check the stack trace |
| 23:48.14 | Cide | though usually events don't fire until the next OnUpdate |
| 23:48.15 | Primer | mitchnull: thing is, it doesn't happen all the time |
| 23:48.21 | Cide | but that's not always the case |
| 23:49.23 | mitchnull | primer: well, check the trace when it does happen ;) |
| 23:50.09 | mitchnull | (it might very well turn out that your best route is what you have now, but at least you'll know what's causing this ;) |
| 23:50.30 | amro | Cide: threads are mostly used for bnet2 and streaming I think. the UI runs from the main thread so it can lock up the client |
| 23:51.04 | mitchnull | primer: for all I know, GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() might cause a POI update somehow |
| 23:51.19 | Cide | amro: ah yeah, that may be |
| 23:51.31 | Cide | but those are mostly separate from the main engine I would imagine |
| 23:51.34 | amro | yes |
| 23:51.51 | amro | as far as lua is even aware, there's only one thread |
| 23:52.27 | amro | lua threading results in fun crashes if you don't guard data |
| 23:53.20 | Primer | I'm just mostly curious as to how another event firing causes that function to run again before the first one is finished |
| 23:53.38 | Primer | I can see if one function calls itself, sure, infinite recursion |
| 23:54.10 | amro | how do you know it's getting called again before the first one finishes? |
| 23:54.28 | mitchnull | primer: as I said, it might happen that GetCurrentMapDungeonLevel() causes an immediate call to your QUEST_POI_UPDATE or somesuch |
| 23:55.00 | amro | that sounds likely |
| 23:55.20 | mitchnull | try running your code with that self:BlowMeUp() and you'll see |
| 23:57.35 | Cide | Adys: http://community.activestate.com/komodo-61-features#django |
| 23:57.38 | Cide | \o/ |
| 23:57.59 | Adys | meh |
| 23:58.03 | Adys | django can suck a fat one |
| 23:58.08 | Cide | YOU CAN SUCK A FAT ONE |
| 23:58.12 | amro | ahaha I knew it |
| 23:58.26 | Cide | anyway, django is great, don't hate |
| 23:58.41 | Cide | I've seen it happen twice now |
| 23:59.18 | Cide | two people I know use django, do some really complex shit and runs into its limitations, and starts hacking the shit out of it with custom patches instead of working around it, and then abandons it citing that it sucsk |
| 23:59.20 | amro | I agree Cide, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WHQ0twHQgo |
| 23:59.31 | Cide | sucks too |
| 23:59.47 | airtonix | Cide: they like to suck |
