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| 00:03.26 | mckenziemc | :o |
| 00:03.36 | mckenziemc | happy un-birthday shirik! |
| 00:04.04 | jnwhiteh | goodnight all! |
| 00:06.09 | Kraps | which tomb raider is good http://store.steampowered.com/search/?snr=1_4_4__12&term=tomb+raider |
| 00:06.19 | mckenziemc | none |
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| 00:08.15 | mckenziemc | apparently gcc can't make up its mind wrt which cpu core to use |
| 00:08.18 | mckenziemc | it keeps alternating |
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| 00:11.46 | tesract | Hi I'm having some trouble making a queue in lua. Basically I want to insert to the end of an array. local a={}; a[#a]=1; --this inserts the first element |
| 00:12.02 | tesract | but after that a[#a]=2; just replaces the first element again. |
| 00:14.15 | foxlit | lua> local a={}; a[#a]=1; a[#a] = 2; print(a[0], a[1]); |
| 00:14.20 | lua_bot | foxlit: 2, nil |
| 00:16.33 | Arrowmaster | a[#a+1]=2 |
| 00:16.38 | Arrowmaster | or just use table.insert |
| 00:17.39 | tesract | so when there is 1 element in a lua table, #a still returns 0? |
| 00:17.44 | foxlit | Yes |
| 00:17.47 | foxlit | #a is an array length operator |
| 00:17.53 | foxlit | Not a number-of-elements-in-a-table operator |
| 00:18.26 | Arrowmaster | and arrays start at 1 in lua |
| 00:18.52 | tesract | oh, so its ignoring 0 since its not 1-# |
| 00:19.37 | tesract | and 0 migth as well be a['asdf'] I get it. |
| 00:19.41 | tesract | thanks |
| 00:20.12 | tesract | lua> local a={}; a[#a+1]=1; a[#a+1] = 2; print(a[0], a[1], a[2], a[3]); |
| 00:20.13 | lua_bot | tesract: nil, 1, 2, nil |
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| 00:26.08 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1965619619?page=289#5778 |
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| 00:27.00 | Wobin | wheee |
| 00:27.01 | Wobin | http://www.bom.gov.au/cyclone/satellite/sequadrant.shtml |
| 00:27.08 | Wobin | Queensland is having a -good- year =( |
| 00:27.45 | Wobin | Hullo Cyclone Yasi |
| 00:49.56 | Lunessa | Wobin: Now we know where Atlantis is... AUSTRALIA! |
| 00:50.15 | Wobin | inorite? =( |
| 00:50.25 | Wobin | maybe the cyclone will suck up the flood water |
| 00:50.33 | Lunessa | At least you still have internets. |
| 00:50.40 | Wobin | \o/ |
| 00:50.48 | Wobin | we're slightly larger than Egypt |
| 00:50.58 | Wobin | it'd be a bit more difficult to cut us off |
| 00:51.18 | Wobin | (aside from physically cutting the transcontinental cable) |
| 00:51.40 | Lunessa | True, you'ed get a bunch of rugby lads from down at the pub to smash some heads in until things were set right. |
| 00:52.08 | Lunessa | And on that note, I must away or I won't have time to eat before raid time. |
| 00:57.00 | Kraps | we have raid time? |
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| 01:19.37 | Cide | yes |
| 01:19.42 | Cide | universal raid time |
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| 01:48.36 | foxlit | The Narrator voice actor in PAA is awesome! |
| 01:54.54 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i dont like when they put MMO's on sale for steam, seems bad somehow. |
| 01:55.16 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: what do you mean? |
| 01:55.40 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: look at this weekends sale |
| 01:55.44 | Thunder_Child | s/sale/deal/ |
| 01:56.27 | Kraps | why dont you like it? |
| 01:57.02 | Thunder_Child | not really a deal when it has a monthly component thats going to cost more than it out the door |
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| 02:02.18 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: except global agenda has no monthly fee! |
| 02:03.04 | Thunder_Child | oh, they changed that |
| 02:03.16 | Kraps | yeah |
| 02:03.28 | Thunder_Child | and how exactly are they still in buisness? |
| 02:03.33 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:04.41 | Kraps | i'm close to buying the sims 3 pack |
| 02:05.36 | Kraps | i have it from d2d |
| 02:05.39 | Shirik | thanks mckenziemc |
| 02:05.54 | Shirik | thanks Cairenn |
| 02:09.31 | Kraps | man if RL wars were fought digitally they'd be over in hours http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/02/callofduty_infographic.jpg |
| 02:09.46 | foxlit | "And we're talking EG-239, not that EG-244 bullshit" |
| 02:12.14 | Shirik | Authenticator code: 888844 |
| 02:13.54 | Kraps | hacks Shiriks wow |
| 02:18.24 | Shirik | Hey Kraps |
| 02:18.29 | Shirik | I got an error message today |
| 02:18.32 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3af3552e5f943914158a64380f63cd0e.PNG |
| 02:18.39 | Shirik | then I was like "wat" |
| 02:19.23 | Kraps | it was a ninja edit |
| 02:20.05 | Shirik | so then I was like "this thing sucks" |
| 02:20.09 | Shirik | and then it was like "no u suck" http://images.gammatester.com/pics/391d92df6e936a51df4399e8f0f6e1ba.PNG |
| 02:21.34 | Kraps | haha win |
| 02:21.46 | Kraps | what program is that? |
| 02:22.08 | Shirik | It's called MKS Integrity |
| 02:22.27 | Shirik | it actually is a really cool program |
| 02:24.32 | Shirik | o____________________o |
| 02:24.51 | Shirik | Chrome altered its code so that downloading PDFs now shows up as a "file that could potentially harm your computer" |
| 02:26.56 | zenzelezz | there goes Shirik's plan to quietly infect unsuspecting Chrome users |
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| 02:29.11 | alestane | Given the number of PDF vulnerabilities I've heard of... |
| 02:37.10 | Primer | Anyone move a character to another account? My son's been bugging me to get him his own account, but I was wondering if it's possible to, say, buy a friend's account with at least LK, add Cata, then move his toons? Highest level being 82, the rest 40-55 |
| 02:37.41 | Primer | Or will blizz only do it on a "new" account? i.e. buy BC+LK+Cata |
| 02:41.08 | tekkub_ | you can only move between accounts you own |
| 02:41.22 | tekkub_ | buying someone else's != you own |
| 02:41.24 | Primer | well, I'd technically "own" it |
| 02:41.27 | Primer | if I bought it |
| 02:41.30 | Shadowed | tekkub_! |
| 02:41.33 | tekkub_ | technically you're just paying the bill |
| 02:41.47 | Primer | I'd have to put it on my own CC, would I not? I believe that's the criterion they use |
| 02:41.49 | Shadowed | Do you know offhand if you still need to create a fake account on github for authing with private repos on a server |
| 02:42.06 | tekkub_ | that's the the way they do it |
| 02:42.15 | tekkub_ | they do it based on the name on the acocunt |
| 02:42.18 | tekkub_ | which can't be changed |
| 02:42.23 | Primer | ahhh |
| 02:42.31 | tekkub_ | s/the/not/ |
| 02:42.33 | Primer | thanks |
| 02:42.59 | tekkub_ | besides, he was cheating in the first place when he shared an acount with someone |
| 02:43.09 | Primer | Hrmm? |
| 02:43.12 | Primer | Who cheated? |
| 02:43.27 | tekkub_ | oh I read it the wrong way |
| 02:43.31 | Primer | Right now my son's toons are all on my own account |
| 02:43.37 | tekkub_ | no cheating till you buy the friend's acocunt |
| 02:43.40 | tekkub_ | CHEATER |
| 02:43.44 | alestane | Accounts are considered non-transferable. |
| 02:43.54 | tekkub_ | yea just get another account in your name and move him over there |
| 02:43.58 | Primer | doesn't make that a reality |
| 02:44.10 | Primer | now to find a bundle |
| 02:44.14 | tekkub_ | it is transferrable to the kid once he's over 13, I thought |
| 02:44.14 | Primer | seems there aren't any yet |
| 02:44.27 | Primer | well, he's 12 |
| 02:44.38 | tekkub_ | do it around xmas, they gots deals on everything but the latest expansion |
| 02:44.47 | Primer | that's a long ways out |
| 02:45.07 | tekkub_ | I *would* have bought wrath and BC keys, but they were only on sale for friggin direct upgrade or buy a useless disk that has to be mailed |
| 02:45.16 | alestane | And I believe that strictly according to the ToS, while you can entrust an account to a minor in your care, technically I don't think you're supposed to actively share an account with one. But if you start another account and move his toons to it, I doubt you'll step on too many toes, since you're basically just making things the way they're supposed to be. |
| 02:45.17 | tekkub_ | so I just have a classic key |
| 02:45.37 | tekkub_ | dinner |
| 02:45.48 | Primer | also none of the toons are 85 or geared |
| 02:45.57 | Primer | So it's not like I'm moving toons to sell |
| 02:46.45 | Primer | I do wonder what would happen to the BoA gear he's wearing though |
| 03:01.41 | tem | anyone familliar with python: What's the appropriate way to concatenate strings? |
| 03:02.10 | tem | dole = "dole"; print "bob " + dole |
| 03:03.22 | Kraps | so i dont get self-immolation |
| 03:04.17 | tem | it fucking hurts |
| 03:04.33 | tem | and if they're serene enough to just sit there, it makes an impression |
| 03:04.39 | Kraps | why would you kill yourself? |
| 03:04.47 | tem | "THIS is how serious I am about this cause" |
| 03:05.06 | tem | martyr |
| 03:08.18 | Kraps | Kim Kardashian cries at being naked on the cover of a magazine |
| 03:08.21 | Kraps | LOL |
| 03:08.27 | tem | wat |
| 03:10.01 | tem | evidently it wasn't the cover |
| 03:10.45 | tem | Inside the magazine she appeared nude, covered in silver paint, a photograph that made her cry on 'Kourtney and Kim Take New York.' |
| 03:11.04 | Kraps | ah |
| 03:11.35 | tem | it was supposed to be an "art" shoot and she thought it came out looking like "full on porn" |
| 03:11.49 | tem | which is still amusing to me since isn't she a pornstar anyway? |
| 03:12.36 | Kraps | she has a sex tape |
| 03:13.51 | Kraps | her uselessness pissed me off, and thats saying something about the Hollywood crowd |
| 03:15.17 | Kraps | i need to watch groundhog day |
| 03:15.34 | tem | oh hey |
| 03:15.39 | tem | tomorrow is groundhog day, isn't it |
| 03:16.34 | Kraps | this is the famous one? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107048/ |
| 03:17.33 | tem | yes |
| 03:18.22 | Kraps | thanks |
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| 03:22.00 | Kraps | who was banned? |
| 03:23.08 | Thunder_Child | thats a - not + |
| 03:24.25 | Kraps | yeah, who got banned to get unbanned |
| 03:24.35 | Thunder_Child | eir |
| 03:25.08 | Kraps | didnt know him :( |
| 03:26.24 | Thunder_Child | it's a bot |
| 03:26.38 | Kraps | ah |
| 03:27.21 | Kraps | "Oh, and what happens when World IPv6 Day is over? They turn IPv6 off again." ??????????????? |
| 03:29.45 | Kraps | its just a test |
| 03:31.23 | Kraps | http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/02/chrome-takes-10-usage-share-ie-continues-to-haemorrhage.ars |
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| 03:46.26 | Thunder_Child | silly chrome, dropping it's H.264 support |
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| 04:03.12 | Wobin | hahah |
| 04:03.14 | Wobin | http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/floodrelief/how-cyclone-yasi-compares-around-the-world/story-fn7ik2te-1225998762870 |
| 04:03.18 | Wobin | why do we still need these? |
| 04:03.29 | Wobin | honestly =P You'd think America learnt from the floods =P |
| 04:10.26 | mckenziemc | people are still using IE 6 / 7? O.o |
| 04:10.45 | fusiobpit | i use ie5 there is a SEVEN??? |
| 04:11.01 | mckenziemc | and 6 still has more users than chrome >.> |
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| 04:17.43 | mckenziemc | Primer: both accounts have to have the same last name |
| 04:18.14 | mckenziemc | nvm that was already answered >.> |
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| 04:22.22 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 04:22.32 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 04:22.45 | mckenziemc | "Sargeras corrupts Cairenn" |
| 04:23.04 | Cairenn | Sargeras: how are you and your beautiful lady doing? |
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| 04:29.14 | Adys | dances |
| 04:29.31 | Adys | Got my first stage show for next week \o/ |
| 04:29.42 | Cairenn | grats |
| 04:30.04 | Sargeras | we're doing fine |
| 04:30.10 | Sargeras | wedding stuff almost done |
| 04:30.26 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 04:32.06 | Cairenn | well, give her a huge hug from me, and have her give you one |
| 04:32.24 | Cairenn | <3 you guys :) |
| 04:35.12 | Sargeras | k! |
| 04:35.14 | Sargeras | <3 you too |
| 04:36.10 | dolby | so your flying us in for the date right? |
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| 04:36.59 | Cairenn | I would SO love to be there |
| 04:37.09 | Cairenn | you know I'll be there in my heart |
| 04:38.19 | Sargeras | =D |
| 04:38.34 | Sargeras | Guest list is so small =( |
| 04:39.30 | Cairenn | nothing wrong with a small guest list - just makes the whole event so much more intimate |
| 04:39.56 | Kraps | there are 167 names in this room Sargeras *hinthint* |
| 04:40.52 | Sargeras | I'd want Dolby to catch the garter belt |
| 04:40.54 | Sargeras | with his teeth |
| 04:40.57 | Sargeras | that'd be hot |
| 04:41.04 | dolby | lol |
| 04:41.08 | Cairenn | I'd pay good money to see that |
| 04:42.16 | Sargeras | pokes Kaelten |
| 04:42.57 | Cairenn | hehehehe, when mine was flung, it ended up caught up in the drop ceiling of the room we held our reception in! |
| 04:43.18 | Sargeras | ruh roh |
| 04:43.38 | Cairenn | it was hilarious |
| 04:46.22 | dolby | ROFL talking beaver welcoming people to Canada http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sekLEG8xsOs&feature=player_embedded# |
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| 05:30.40 | Kraps | nice movie, groundhog day |
| 05:33.31 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/02/chrome-takes-10-usage-share-ie-continues-to-haemorrhage.ars |
| 05:36.38 | foxlit | that was so two hours ago, Adys. |
| 05:36.56 | Adys | I'm pretty sure all of it was last month |
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| 05:54.05 | Adys | Anyone else noticed how much stricter the bnet authenticator codes are? |
| 05:54.10 | Adys | since a couple of months |
| 05:54.20 | Jerub | you mean for timing? |
| 05:54.26 | Adys | yea |
| 05:54.27 | Jerub | are you on a physical authenticator or a mobile phone? |
| 05:54.38 | Adys | mobile auth, i had to resync twice now |
| 05:54.47 | Jerub | your clock is drifting |
| 05:54.51 | Jerub | 'resync' is a clock sync. |
| 05:54.55 | Jerub | check it |
| 05:55.06 | Jerub | (i use clock sync from the android market) |
| 05:55.27 | Adys | Im using my computer's clock |
| 05:55.36 | Jerub | Adys: then verify it's correct |
| 05:55.57 | Jerub | i've inspected the trafic that my mobile generates when you hit 'resync' |
| 05:56.08 | Jerub | it's just getting a decimal unix timestamp over http |
| 05:56.12 | Adys | I know how the resync works :P |
| 05:56.32 | Adys | Im using this http://github.com/adys/python-bna |
| 05:58.20 | Adys | but ive always had the same time here, it's only become stricter recently |
| 05:58.49 | Adys | the span used to be somewhere between 5 and 10 mins |
| 05:58.53 | Adys | now it's closer to 60 seconds |
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| 06:00.21 | foxlit | Considering official authenticators only display the codes for 30 seconds |
| 06:00.28 | foxlit | I'd say you'd have to be using something else to notice. |
| 06:01.16 | Adys | the official auths use the mobile clock |
| 06:01.57 | Jerub | yeah, my mobile clock drifts hugely, i have to sync it with ntp via 3g |
| 06:01.58 | Adys | so if in the past 2 months a lot of people had to resync.. |
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| 06:51.50 | Fisker | slaps Jerub around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:57.39 | Shirik | did I authorize you to slap, Fisker? |
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| 07:02.43 | tem | holy fucking moses I'm impressed |
| 07:02.54 | tem | I've been dicking with a little puzzle the last few days |
| 07:03.24 | tem | given a huge dictionary of words (~260k), find all words with a levenshtein distance of 1 from a given word |
| 07:03.28 | tem | er |
| 07:03.36 | Kraps | wtf tem |
| 07:03.36 | tem | find the "social network" of a given word |
| 07:03.52 | tem | where the network is all words with a levenshtein distance of 1 from that word |
| 07:04.07 | tem | and all words of distance 1 from those words |
| 07:04.30 | Kraps | a what |
| 07:04.45 | tem | kitten has a levenshtein distance of 1 from mitten |
| 07:08.18 | Jerub | and smitten has a levenshtein distance of 1 from mitten and 2 from kitten. |
| 07:08.19 | tem | say that two words are friends if they have a levenshtein distance of 1 |
| 07:08.24 | Jerub | it's the edit-distance, |
| 07:08.28 | tem | right |
| 07:08.51 | tem | find the "social network" of a given word in a list of words (approx 260k words in the list) |
| 07:08.59 | tem | where social network is the list of the word's friends |
| 07:09.06 | tem | and its friends' friends |
| 07:09.08 | tem | and so on |
| 07:09.26 | tem | in this list, the word I was working with was giving a total network of 78k words |
| 07:09.35 | tem | the running time of my first implementation took 4 hours to run |
| 07:09.38 | tem | which was... depressing |
| 07:09.50 | tem | my new version, which I wasn't even sure would work, runs in 9 minutes |
| 07:10.03 | tem | (written in python) |
| 07:10.56 | mikma | wall of tem hits you for 9001. |
| 07:11.02 | tem | sorry |
| 07:11.04 | tem | I'm excited |
| 07:11.08 | tem | because this shit worked |
| 07:11.12 | mikma | good! |
| 07:11.13 | tem | and netted a huge improvement |
| 07:11.50 | tem | I basically just built a trie of the dictionary and stored some state info about calculating the levenshtein distance in each node |
| 07:12.27 | tem | (there's some trickery you can do with the typical implementation when you only care about distances below a threshold) |
| 07:13.32 | mikma | Whats this addon called? ;))))))))))))))))))) |
| 07:23.18 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 07:24.21 | Fisker | isn't there always a 1% chance to miss btw? |
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| 07:31.35 | Jerub | tem: i love it when algorithms work |
| 07:31.49 | Jerub | tem: when i'm fiddling with graph traversals i always control-c and rerun a few times |
| 07:31.54 | Fisker | slaps Jerub around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:31.56 | tem | heh |
| 07:32.27 | tem | the worst part of this thing is that the optimization I spent the most time figuring out and proving to myself that it was valid actually slowed down the whole process |
| 07:32.30 | tem | I still haven't figured out why |
| 07:32.54 | Jerub | tem: probably python string processing |
| 07:33.31 | tem | the normal levenshtein distance checker has a complexity of O(n*m) (where n is the length of one string and m is the length of the other. So in similarly lengthed strings, it's basically O(n^2)) |
| 07:33.51 | tem | the "optimized" version I made yesterday was O(n) |
| 07:34.23 | mitch0 | you probly had a large constant in there ;) |
| 07:34.35 | mitch0 | also, python sux. grow some balls and code in c++ |
| 07:34.43 | tem | (really it was O(3n), but m is almast always > 3) |
| 07:34.50 | tem | almost* |
| 07:35.05 | tem | I did it in python because I wanted to mess with python |
| 07:35.21 | tem | it would certainly have been faster in c/c++ |
| 07:35.24 | tem | but I don't really care |
| 07:35.27 | Jerub | tem: you realise if you've got a bound of 1, then the levenshtein distance algorithm is O(n)? |
| 07:35.42 | tem | well, yes |
| 07:35.45 | Jerub | because len() is O(1), and then it's just a sequence alignment that terminates on the second edit |
| 07:35.56 | tem | if you do the optimization I did yesterday |
| 07:36.04 | tem | but for some reason, that was slower |
| 07:36.39 | tem | new version is uh.... much faster :P |
| 07:36.41 | Fisker | slaps mitch0 around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:36.43 | Fisker | slaps tem around a bit with a large trout |
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| 08:30.22 | Adys | "I'm glad to see Bing being transparent about [their] data usage" |
| 08:31.57 | Adys | Am I the only one not seeing "Hiding clicklogging for a year and upon being caught red-handed admitting their guilt" as "Being transparent"? |
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| 08:33.58 | Adys | speaking of transparency |
| 08:34.02 | Adys | Kalroth: I can see your genitals |
| 08:34.33 | Kalroth | ooops |
| 08:34.38 | Kalroth | puts his pants back on |
| 08:34.51 | Kalroth | thanks Adys, no wonder she was looking so oddly at me |
| 08:35.20 | Adys | On pouvait voir ton origine a travers ton fils. |
| 08:35.20 | Adys | :P |
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| 09:03.54 | Fisker | i tried my best jnwhiteh |
| 09:05.22 | Kalroth | you did not prevail? |
| 09:05.48 | Fisker | nope |
| 09:06.14 | Fisker | and now i'm left with some kind of spare part |
| 09:06.22 | Kalroth | ebay it |
| 09:08.33 | Fisker | it's not ebayable |
| 09:08.42 | Fisker | unless i say it's a ps3 or something |
| 09:09.29 | Fisker | in other news i might want to burn down the building to claim the insurance money |
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| 09:11.15 | Fisker | i mean it was someone elses phone |
| 09:11.29 | Fisker | can't just deliver a brick now can i? |
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| 09:29.51 | karl_w_w | ho my god somebody killed the doom9 forums |
| 09:30.42 | karl_w_w | points an accusatory finger at Fisker |
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| 09:54.09 | Adys | hm |
| 09:54.37 | Adys | I have a spirit-reforged Chelley's Staff of Dark Mending, for a total of +137 spirit |
| 09:54.47 | Adys | but when equipped, it gives me +141 spirit |
| 09:54.51 | Adys | any idea why? (mage) |
| 09:55.34 | karl_w_w | kings? |
| 09:55.39 | karl_w_w | or something |
| 09:55.46 | Adys | completely unbuffed |
| 09:55.59 | zenzio | talents? Guessing you checked that already |
| 09:56.17 | karl_w_w | mages dont have spirit talents :P |
| 09:56.20 | Adys | yea |
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| 09:56.49 | Adys | I'm thinking its a reforge bug |
| 09:57.08 | karl_w_w | have you tried before and after on the armory? |
| 09:58.13 | Adys | armory says the same thing as ingame |
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| 10:06.29 | mitch0 | class trait? |
| 10:06.38 | mitch0 | s/class/race/ |
| 10:06.47 | bluspacecow | ~fiskerslap Bluspacecow |
| 10:06.47 | purl | ACTION slaps Bluspacecow around a bit with Fisker. |
| 10:08.48 | karl_w_w | http://www.google.com/search?q=yasi&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbs=mbl:1&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=Gi1JTdJti8S9A_rumM8P&ved=0CB4Q8QkoAzAA |
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| 10:40.20 | Derabo | hello |
| 10:44.12 | Derabo | I just startet with xml. anyone here who is brave enough for some noob questions? :> |
| 10:46.15 | karl_w_w | shoot |
| 10:46.25 | Derabo | I made a Frame with a Editbox and a button |
| 10:46.26 | Derabo | http://pastebin.com/bx9UHiii |
| 10:46.29 | bluspacecow | *shoots karl* |
| 10:46.32 | Derabo | how can I open the frame ingame now? |
| 10:54.58 | Derabo | anyone? : / |
| 11:00.18 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 11:00.26 | bluspacecow | call it's .show method ? |
| 11:00.40 | jnwhiteh | is already shown |
| 11:00.43 | jnwhiteh | and already shown in game |
| 11:00.45 | jnwhiteh | based on that XML |
| 11:00.52 | jnwhiteh | that is, if the frame is loading |
| 11:00.54 | jnwhiteh | which you can check |
| 11:00.59 | bluspacecow | hehe |
| 11:01.01 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.11 | jnwhiteh | check your FrameXML logs |
| 11:01.26 | jnwhiteh | ensure things are loading properly if it doesn't exist by name |
| 11:02.27 | Derabo | hmmm xml.log says "Couldn't open Interface\AddOns\Notes\Notex.xml" |
| 11:02.58 | jnwhiteh | that's a start =) |
| 11:03.03 | Derabo | *sigh* |
| 11:03.12 | jnwhiteh | where'd you put the file? whats it named? how are you loading it? |
| 11:03.14 | Derabo | I totally called it notex.xml in the .toc |
| 11:03.15 | Derabo | :D |
| 11:03.18 | Derabo | not notes |
| 11:03.32 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 11:03.40 | Derabo | ok, lets see... |
| 11:05.21 | Derabo | ok now /dump Notes_Frame returns [0]=<userdata Notes_Frame[0]> |
| 11:05.37 | jnwhiteh | so the frame exists |
| 11:05.45 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.54 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.07 | Derabo | isVisible returns 1 |
| 11:06.21 | Derabo | getRect returns empty result |
| 11:06.22 | jnwhiteh | okay, that means that it is 'shown' as is its parent |
| 11:06.30 | jnwhiteh | check the FrameXML log |
| 11:06.48 | Derabo | nothing with "notes" in it |
| 11:06.56 | jnwhiteh | http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ |
| 11:07.03 | jnwhiteh | which you can get to from http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlvalidate |
| 11:07.08 | jnwhiteh | your XML is invalid |
| 11:07.19 | jnwhiteh | because you have an EditBox that isn't in a <Frames> container |
| 11:07.36 | jnwhiteh | (and the close button, actually) |
| 11:07.42 | Derabo | does it need an own <Frame> around it? |
| 11:07.46 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 11:07.50 | jnwhiteh | a frame can have other frames |
| 11:07.53 | jnwhiteh | but they need to be in a <Frames> container |
| 11:07.57 | jnwhiteh | much like you have <Layers> |
| 11:08.13 | jnwhiteh | <Layers> contains textures and font strings, <Frames> contain subframes |
| 11:08.22 | Derabo | so I just put another <Frame> around the editbox? |
| 11:08.49 | jnwhiteh | ... no |
| 11:08.50 | jnwhiteh | <Frames> |
| 11:09.12 | Derabo | ah right |
| 11:09.18 | jnwhiteh | <Frames><EditBox>...</EditBox><Button name="yourclosebutton">...</Button></Frames> |
| 11:09.18 | zenzio | im in ur <Frames>, settin up subframes |
| 11:09.38 | jnwhiteh | if you want a frame to have a subframe, it has to be in a single <Frames> container, and they all need to be in there. |
| 11:10.23 | Derabo | now it says "Line 57: element FontString: Schemas validity error : Element '{http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}FontString': Missing child element(s). Expected is one of ( {http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}Size {http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}Anchors {http://www.blizzard.com/wow/ui/}Animations )." |
| 11:10.59 | jnwhiteh | same deal |
| 11:11.07 | jnwhiteh | you can't just put stuff wherever you want in your file |
| 11:11.12 | jnwhiteh | your font string needs to be in a layer |
| 11:11.29 | jnwhiteh | the whole point of XML is its well structured and can be validated against a schema =) |
| 11:12.09 | Derabo | so I define my used fonts/skins etc at the beginning? |
| 11:12.14 | jnwhiteh | no. |
| 11:12.18 | jnwhiteh | now its my turn to sigh |
| 11:12.28 | jnwhiteh | why are you choosing to use XML in this case |
| 11:12.46 | jnwhiteh | because its going to be very difficult ot just 'pick up' if you don't have something to follow, like the chapters on it in my book |
| 11:13.13 | Derabo | well Im pretty new to addons and I just wanted to make a little "frame" ingame so its not all just in the chat |
| 11:13.36 | jnwhiteh | A frame generally has the following things: size, anchors, layers (contains textures and font strings), frames (contains subframes) and scripts. |
| 11:14.05 | Derabo | ok |
| 11:14.27 | jnwhiteh | you need to structure it as such |
| 11:14.41 | jnwhiteh | so all of your textures and fontstrings MUST go in <Layers> and within a <Layer> contains in the <Layers> element. |
| 11:14.49 | jnwhiteh | any subframes need to be within the <Frames> container |
| 11:15.24 | Derabo | hmmm ok |
| 11:15.31 | Derabo | let me try... |
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| 11:15.48 | jnwhiteh | a capable XML editor that respects the schema would help you here =) |
| 11:16.04 | jnwhiteh | but that may be asking too much depending on what you're doing |
| 11:16.21 | airtonix | This is my chance to pimp my new book : David Attenborough, Identifying Fiskers in the Wild |
| 11:16.30 | mitch0 | also, don't do frame creation in xml unless you absolutely have to ;) |
| 11:16.36 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: >< |
| 11:16.45 | airtonix | It's often very hard to identfy a fisker when you' |
| 11:17.06 | jnwhiteh | Derabo: as a matter of fact, the font string you're creating there does absolutely nothing |
| 11:17.11 | jnwhiteh | won't be displayed, can't be set, etc. |
| 11:17.33 | Derabo | ok. just copied the editbox part to play around with |
| 11:17.38 | Derabo | so I can just delete it? |
| 11:17.39 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 11:17.42 | jnwhiteh | maybe with indentation |
| 11:17.43 | jnwhiteh | hold please |
| 11:18.00 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: you disagree? |
| 11:18.04 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: yes |
| 11:18.08 | jnwhiteh | and I dont like propaganda |
| 11:18.09 | mitch0 | strange :) |
| 11:18.18 | mitch0 | it's not propaganda. friendly advice |
| 11:18.21 | jnwhiteh | especially when people talk in absolutes |
| 11:18.27 | mitch0 | fighting with xml is full of pain |
| 11:18.29 | jnwhiteh | with no basis of fact behind it |
| 11:18.39 | mitch0 | and I didn't talk in absolutes |
| 11:18.43 | jnwhiteh | and fighting with unstructured Lua when you dont' know the language or the frame system is better? |
| 11:18.51 | mitch0 | I specifically said not to use it _unless_ necessary |
| 11:18.56 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:19.22 | mitch0 | I'm very very careful about not talking in absolutes, as a matter of fact |
| 11:19.32 | jnwhiteh | You're correct, I'm sorry |
| 11:19.33 | mitch0 | 'cos I hates that, too |
| 11:19.48 | airtonix | Black bag team to corner of first a nd west st, target is mitch0 |
| 11:19.53 | jnwhiteh | btu it is very difficult to determine precisely what unsolicited advice IS |
| 11:19.56 | mitch0 | (when I do, I'm obviously trolling) |
| 11:20.02 | jnwhiteh | when there's no preface or introduction |
| 11:20.23 | airtonix | British Thermal Units ? |
| 11:20.37 | mitch0 | airtonix never said a single useful thing here, he's the worst person I ever met on irc |
| 11:20.51 | airtonix | Mitch0, don't be upset old chap |
| 11:21.03 | airtonix | Life is too short |
| 11:21.09 | mitch0 | airtonix: are you a brit even? if so, that's even worse |
| 11:21.22 | airtonix | Tsk tsk, assumptions |
| 11:21.28 | jnwhiteh | Derabo: maybe try this? |
| 11:21.28 | jnwhiteh | http://pastebin.com/mqKUuK1a |
| 11:21.55 | Derabo | what did you change? |
| 11:22.18 | jnwhiteh | put things inside the right containers, made the fontstring self closing |
| 11:22.21 | jnwhiteh | try loading it in wow |
| 11:22.23 | jnwhiteh | it still won't validate |
| 11:22.30 | jnwhiteh | but that's because this particular validator is too strict about positioning |
| 11:22.50 | Derabo | ok I try it |
| 11:23.10 | Derabo | hmmmm |
| 11:23.39 | Derabo | now just my mouse works ingame :D does not react to any keypresses |
| 11:23.51 | jnwhiteh | because of your editbox |
| 11:23.55 | jnwhiteh | click on someone's name in chat |
| 11:23.56 | Derabo | ah ok |
| 11:23.58 | jnwhiteh | it'l open the editbox |
| 11:23.59 | jnwhiteh | and we can fix that |
| 11:24.11 | Derabo | jupp that works |
| 11:24.33 | jnwhiteh | add autofocus="false" to the Editbox defiition |
| 11:24.43 | jnwhiteh | after multiLine="true" |
| 11:25.27 | Derabo | ok. ui reload is enough, right? |
| 11:25.30 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 11:25.40 | Derabo | ok now I can move again :> |
| 11:26.02 | jnwhiteh | well you know that the frame and the edit box are loading :P |
| 11:26.22 | Derabo | thats good I guess :P |
| 11:26.32 | Derabo | but how can I show them now? |
| 11:26.38 | jnwhiteh | they are shown |
| 11:26.52 | Derabo | hmmmm |
| 11:26.53 | jnwhiteh | but you didn't anchor the mainframe anywhere |
| 11:27.06 | mitch0 | anchor the mainframe to the disk cabinet |
| 11:27.06 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:27.16 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/puxVS.jpg the hell is up with that? |
| 11:27.18 | Derabo | wohoooo |
| 11:27.19 | Derabo | :D |
| 11:27.29 | Derabo | very nice |
| 11:28.04 | mitch0 | adys: you won't get that loot :P |
| 11:28.12 | Adys | why not? |
| 11:29.11 | mitch0 | the evil things will eat it |
| 11:29.35 | Derabo | Ok everything works now :) I'll play around a bit with this |
| 11:29.41 | Derabo | thank you very much for your help! |
| 11:30.20 | Adys | mitch0: are you ever useful or do you just enjoy being the sort of cock even someone really desperate wouldn't want to see? |
| 11:31.37 | Adys | i thought so |
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| 12:07.47 | Fisker | slaps mitch0 around a bit with a large trout |
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| 12:08.07 | Fisker | i tried so hard jnwhiteh |
| 12:08.32 | airtonix | No good enough |
| 12:08.44 | airtonix | :me keelhauls fisker |
| 12:08.47 | airtonix | I did |
| 12:08.52 | airtonix | Fail client |
| 12:09.12 | airtonix | :) |
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| 12:25.21 | airtonix | My sales whistle won't stop going off |
| 12:26.21 | karl_w_w | blows airtonix's whistle |
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| 12:46.59 | Wobin | holy shit |
| 12:47.00 | Wobin | http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8069596-breaking-first-actual-picture-of-cyclone-yasi-must-watch |
| 12:48.16 | Corrodias | how do i watched picture |
| 12:48.18 | Wobin | about an hour til contact with land =( |
| 12:48.42 | airtonix | Corrodias. With orbital sattelite |
| 12:49.00 | Wobin | http://img4.allvoices.com/thumbs/event/609/480/71897072-cyclone-yasi.jpg for the image alone =P |
| 12:50.20 | Corrodias | anyway, wow, that thing is going to shit all over the continent. |
| 12:50.29 | airtonix | Protip: if you can't remain calm when shouting, don't do crime. |
| 12:50.59 | Wobin | It's going to be interesting to see how it changes once it hits landmass |
| 12:51.08 | Kalroth | http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml |
| 12:51.17 | Corrodias | it's all those damn oceans' fault |
| 12:51.22 | Corrodias | we should pave over them or something. |
| 12:52.08 | airtonix | Kalroth, god's taking the children to the pool |
| 12:52.24 | airtonix | Oh shit I went there |
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| 12:52.37 | Wobin | literally |
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| 12:53.12 | Wobin | 180 mph winds =\ |
| 12:53.15 | airtonix | Sorry Darwins unable to come to the phone right now, but if you leave your mailing address we can visit with our doctors |
| 12:53.33 | Arrowmaster` | GOD DAMN FUCKING POWER OUTAGE |
| 12:53.39 | airtonix | No |
| 12:53.44 | airtonix | Not gods fault |
| 12:54.05 | Arrowmaster` | think my PSU is blown |
| 12:54.07 | airtonix | Since you know, he's busy over the other side of the world |
| 12:56.50 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: k |
| 12:56.55 | BWMerlin | there is no god and not spoon |
| 12:56.58 | BWMerlin | no* |
| 12:57.26 | Corrodias | i'll try to sleep now. yay |
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| 13:01.58 | Wobin | airtonix: wrong state =) Darwin's in the Northern Territory. Queensland is where it's hitting |
| 13:02.22 | airtonix | I think you're being racist |
| 13:02.35 | airtonix | Hoho |
| 13:03.04 | Wobin | stateist? |
| 13:03.35 | airtonix | I don't speak with people from the south side of the river |
| 13:03.37 | BWMerlin | QLD > all others |
| 13:03.53 | Wobin | airtonix: uh. what? |
| 13:04.21 | airtonix | Umad? |
| 13:04.32 | Wobin | no, just utterly confused |
| 13:04.37 | Wobin | cause you're making no sense |
| 13:04.41 | Wobin | not even in a trolly sense |
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| 13:06.36 | BWMerlin | Wobin: dw trolls dont have to make sense you just need to keep feeding them |
| 13:06.51 | Wobin | gets the cement mixer. |
| 13:06.54 | Wobin | Open up, airtonix! |
| 13:09.00 | airtonix | isn't here at the moment |
| 13:09.37 | Wobin | pours the cement into the empty spot in airtonix's head anyway |
| 13:10.38 | airtonix | Don't be mad |
| 13:10.51 | Wobin | who gets mad? |
| 13:10.54 | Wobin | when you can get even? |
| 13:11.17 | airtonix | Darling, honeybunch |
| 13:15.26 | karl_w_w | if im levelling a rogue in sub spec what weapons should i be using? |
| 13:18.40 | amro | daggers |
| 13:24.30 | zenzio | subtly cleaves karl_w_w with his battleaxe |
| 13:26.27 | Fisker | weeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweeweewee |
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| 13:27.04 | karl_w_w | raises and eyebrow |
| 13:27.07 | karl_w_w | an* nice |
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| 13:49.28 | Arrowmaster | fucking hell |
| 13:49.34 | Arrowmaster | my speakers are blown too |
| 13:49.58 | Arrowmaster | just attempted to attach my 360 to a tv so i could use the headphone output but the tv is mono only |
| 13:50.03 | Fisker | i'll blow you |
| 13:50.31 | Wobin | You could've used Fisker as a surge protector |
| 13:50.45 | Arrowmaster|away | i have a surge protector |
| 13:50.48 | Arrowmaster|away | didnt do much |
| 13:51.39 | Arrowmaster|away | i need a way to attach headphones to my 360, all i have is RCA speaker output on the 360 and an RCA to 3.5mm converter |
| 13:51.57 | Arrowmaster|away | but i need a female to female 3.5mm converter to plug my headphones directly into it |
| 13:52.32 | Fisker | didn't know they had surge protectors for audio jacks |
| 13:53.14 | Kraftman | get splicing :) |
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| 14:25.06 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, it would be much better situation if microsoft had something compatiable with pulseaudio |
| 14:25.25 | airtonix | Alas, microsoft still hasn't entered the 22nd century |
| 14:25.38 | airtonix | Unlike myself |
| 14:25.39 | Arrowmaster|away | how would that help me |
| 14:26.32 | airtonix | Well, then you could simply output the audio through the network cable you have plugged in the back through to your laptop and therfore your headphones |
| 14:26.45 | Arrowmaster|away | laptop is in another room |
| 14:26.55 | airtonix | But it doesn't have to be |
| 14:27.05 | airtonix | I mean it could even be your android phone |
| 14:27.18 | Arrowmaster|away | heh i dont have a smartphone |
| 14:27.25 | airtonix | How unfortunate |
| 14:28.07 | airtonix | Hey do you think that the female lead character in Bones, sounds like she's always drunk? |
| 14:28.12 | airtonix | I do |
| 14:28.42 | TC-Away | well, your opnion sucks |
| 14:28.56 | airtonix | Annoying-Drunk-Chick |
| 14:29.07 | airtonix | Greetings, we meet again |
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| 14:38.15 | Fisker | Arrowmaster|away |
| 14:38.18 | Fisker | you are a bad person |
| 14:39.16 | airtonix | I was once a bad person |
| 14:39.38 | airtonix | but now I control 89% of the world |
| 14:39.55 | Fisker | sounds like something skynet would say |
| 14:40.24 | airtonix | Fisker, I could have easily made your school receive commodore 64 instead of macs |
| 14:40.58 | Fisker | i wish airtonix |
| 14:43.03 | Ackis | Shirik: I got epic lootz last night |
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| 14:43.36 | Fisker | i got epic loots too Ackis |
| 14:43.40 | Fisker | and imma kill ya |
| 14:44.09 | airtonix | Fisker, there were 67 points in your life where things could have gone differently. 34 of them were poor life choices, 16 led to substance abuse and 3 of them I had to interfere with surrounding forces in order to prevent world wide catasrophy due in part to your incompetence |
| 14:44.57 | airtonix | Never mind my spelling mistakes, it's beta |
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| 14:46.47 | Fisker | you're wrong btw airtonix |
| 14:47.47 | airtonix | Yes you're right |
| 14:48.00 | airtonix | It was in fact 69 instead of 67 |
| 14:48.10 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:49.37 | Adys | jesus, did blizz bug bnet again |
| 14:50.13 | Thunder_Child | just so you know, bnet is actually short for botnet |
| 14:50.20 | Thunder_Child | oh yes, it will happen |
| 14:50.55 | airtonix | Indeed |
| 14:51.14 | airtonix | That accounts for 13.87% of my dominance on this globe |
| 14:52.23 | Arrowmaster|away | http://www.speedtest.net/result/1139301714.png |
| 14:52.32 | Arrowmaster|away | can you tell everybody is snowed in? |
| 14:52.41 | Fisker | i once killed a guy Thunder_Child |
| 14:53.47 | Thunder_Child | i once killed a guy who killed a guy Fisker |
| 14:54.04 | airtonix | And you both did the work required of you |
| 14:54.26 | Fisker | oh yeah Thunder_Child ? |
| 14:54.45 | Fisker | but i once killed a guy that killed a guy that killed a guy |
| 14:55.19 | Thunder_Child | but i once killed a bunch of guys that killed a bunch of guys |
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| 14:55.56 | Fisker | i once killed a guy who created the universe |
| 14:56.31 | airtonix | There is a discrepancy with my records fisker |
| 14:56.42 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:56.44 | Ackis | what does "ranked players" mean on world of logs? |
| 14:56.45 | Fisker | i told you a while ago |
| 14:56.45 | Thunder_Child | well i killed his dad before he was born |
| 14:56.51 | Fisker | they're fucking awesome Ackis |
| 14:56.53 | Fisker | i.e. top 100 |
| 14:57.02 | airtonix | My logs show that you have killed approx. 12,493 guys |
| 14:57.03 | Ackis | ty Fisker |
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| 15:14.34 | Ackis | hey Fisker make me a mod on mmo-champ, I want to ban someone |
| 15:16.42 | bluspacecow | http://www.citypages.com/content/printVersion/1740595/ |
| 15:16.44 | bluspacecow | type Bang |
| 15:28.26 | alestane | http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/backward/backward-2009-12-02.aspx |
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| 15:32.45 | Ackis | drops a block of concrete on bleeter |
| 15:32.47 | Ackis | and Fisker |
| 15:32.49 | Ackis | HAH |
| 15:33.56 | Ackis | Shirik, Stanzilla, cide, any holy priest: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/843703-Outhealed-by-a-pally-Magmaw |
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| 15:35.42 | Stanzilla | Ackis: renew = bad |
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| 15:35.57 | Ackis | but Shirik told me yesterday renew = good |
| 15:36.01 | Ackis | I'm so confused |
| 15:36.03 | Ackis | loves renew. |
| 15:36.16 | Stanzilla | nah, mana cost is too high |
| 15:36.47 | Ackis | one good comment from that thread was I didn't stay in chakra enough |
| 15:37.04 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 15:37.11 | Stanzilla | 70% or so uptime? |
| 15:37.19 | Ackis | yup |
| 15:37.46 | Ackis | part of it is from the mindset of "raid damage -> need to top off fast or they'll die" |
| 15:38.06 | Ackis | remaining part if I'm bad at chakra |
| 15:38.12 | industrial | haha you guys suck, I won |
| 15:38.16 | industrial | my job is fun! |
| 15:38.18 | Stanzilla | man why do our WoL logs have to be in german |
| 15:38.19 | industrial | dances |
| 15:38.53 | Stanzilla | Ackis: our priest has 99,2% chakra uptime |
| 15:38.58 | Stanzilla | so that could be one thing |
| 15:39.08 | industrial | I think I beat the game 'life'. I'm now getting paid for what I would otherwise be doing for free for fun xD |
| 15:39.16 | Stanzilla | but he gets destroyed by paladins, too |
| 15:39.31 | Stanzilla | Ackis: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-fnaq7csrhwgqv3oh/sum/healingDone/?s=15037&e=15568 |
| 15:39.37 | industrial | or is the meta-game keeping it fun? |
| 15:39.54 | alestane | http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/backward/backward-2009-08-12.aspx I have occasionally wished I could trigger this remotely. |
| 15:40.03 | Ackis | wow Stanzilla that healing looks so nice and uniform |
| 15:40.29 | Ackis | wait that's the dps chart |
| 15:40.42 | Ackis | oh no it's not |
| 15:40.45 | Ackis | it's the healing metre |
| 15:40.50 | Stanzilla | I linked healing yeah |
| 15:41.06 | Stanzilla | that's hardmode tho |
| 15:41.34 | Ackis | we should do hard mode after we kill nef? or should we attempt it in say 2 weeks? |
| 15:41.38 | Ackis | snickers. |
| 15:42.14 | industrial | why would you do something without understanding why? |
| 15:42.19 | industrial | like, lead a guild or raid |
| 15:42.41 | Stanzilla | industrial: for the lulz or the bitches |
| 15:42.57 | industrial | failing at raiding might yield some bitches |
| 15:43.16 | industrial | because you stop, actually get your ass in the club and score? |
| 15:43.37 | Stanzilla | something like that |
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| 15:46.02 | elb0w | Why are there no translate faction chat addons? |
| 15:47.00 | sylvanaar_work | it cannot be translated |
| 15:47.07 | airtonix | I lol'd |
| 15:47.17 | elb0w | its random? |
| 15:47.22 | sylvanaar_work | no |
| 15:47.28 | airtonix | elb0w, ysosrs |
| 15:47.30 | Wobin | It's forbidden by Blizzard |
| 15:47.43 | sylvanaar_work | there are just multiple words that translate to the same thing |
| 15:47.49 | sylvanaar_work | so its one way |
| 15:47.51 | Wobin | and it's pretty reductive |
| 15:47.52 | elb0w | ah |
| 15:47.57 | Wobin | as sylv says |
| 15:48.00 | airtonix | And offtopic here |
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| 15:48.40 | airtonix | Fisker, quick! To the batcave |
| 15:48.49 | elb0w | Really the wow channels follow the freenode rules so loosely and you are gonna call me out on a dev question? |
| 15:48.51 | elb0w | haha |
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| 15:49.15 | airtonix | You seem to be amiss on the morality of exploits |
| 15:49.17 | Wobin | wow, you got served, airtonix |
| 15:49.37 | Wobin | I don't think he knew that it's against blizz policy |
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| 15:53.07 | airtonix | Wobin, skynet can not be stopped. |
| 15:53.47 | sylvanaar_work | i cant believe they cancelled that show, I AM STILL UPSET |
| 15:53.57 | sylvanaar_work | IT WAS SO GOOD |
| 15:53.57 | airtonix | Terminator ? |
| 15:53.59 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 15:54.17 | airtonix | I think sarah conner actor wasn't the best |
| 15:54.23 | sylvanaar_work | meh |
| 15:54.35 | airtonix | But the ending was in line with the comics |
| 15:54.39 | airtonix | And fairly good |
| 15:54.46 | airtonix | Although |
| 15:54.48 | sylvanaar_work | i liked the john connor kid, though in real life his voice was high pitched |
| 15:55.00 | airtonix | "Real Life"? |
| 15:55.12 | sylvanaar_work | well, in the outtakes on the blu-rays |
| 15:55.46 | airtonix | I am not aware of any John Connor amongst 87% of my dominance of this globe |
| 15:56.12 | sylvanaar_work | what are you saying, i spelled it wrong? |
| 15:56.25 | airtonix | Calibrating |
| 15:56.31 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 15:59.47 | Kraps | i should go |
| 15:59.57 | airtonix | I give you permission |
| 16:01.03 | Kraps | wrex |
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| 16:06.11 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 16:06.15 | Fisker | google music today? |
| 16:08.09 | sylvanaar_work | agilvity |
| 16:08.16 | sylvanaar_work | wtf |
| 16:08.27 | airtonix | Mis-direction is the key |
| 16:08.56 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.amazon.com/Kinectimals-Xbox-360/dp/B002I0J8RQ |
| 16:09.13 | sylvanaar_work | "... and even master agilvity courses with hops ..." |
| 16:10.25 | sylvanaar_work | i want a kinect, but there are no games |
| 16:11.58 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: search me! |
| 16:12.46 | airtonix | Fisker the Frisker |
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| 16:16.23 | bluspacecow | *searchs teh Fisker* |
| 16:16.37 | bluspacecow | *finds an old sock and three day halibut* |
| 16:16.40 | bluspacecow | wot ? |
| 16:18.05 | amro | jnwhiteh: did you figure it out? |
| 16:18.06 | airtonix | I am jacks lazy eye |
| 16:18.13 | jnwhiteh | nope |
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| 16:20.50 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Winter Sucks! |
| 16:21.07 | zenzelezz | enjoys the winter with Cairenn |
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| 16:23.42 | airtonix | It's always winter in my military bunker |
| 16:24.08 | zenzelezz | nuclear winter? |
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| 16:25.00 | airtonix | As opposed to a diseased summer ? |
| 16:25.15 | airtonix | Mmmm zombies |
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| 16:30.23 | Lunessa | station |
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| 16:31.28 | Fisker | frisks jnwhiteh for google music |
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| 16:38.55 | Torhal|work | Your time is nigh, Fisker. |
| 16:41.07 | airtonix | It's ok I have loopsholes for your continued existance fisker |
| 16:41.26 | airtonix | Many loops |
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| 16:41.46 | airtonix | With holes |
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| 16:46.04 | Lunessa | power is out. logging out. |
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| 16:56.51 | airtonix | Fisker, do those macs have pentalobe screws ? |
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| 17:01.38 | Kraps | http://www.1up.com/boards/posts/list/32318.page |
| 17:07.29 | Fisker | i wouldn't know yet airtonix |
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| 17:12.15 | airtonix | Pentalobe screws are an expression of coporate facism |
| 17:12.28 | airtonix | Corporate |
| 17:12.41 | Jamash | coprolite |
| 17:12.51 | airtonix | "Hi my name is Steve Jobs and I hate Freedom" |
| 17:13.03 | Jamash | ALL HAIL STEVE |
| 17:13.07 | airtonix | Please don't hate me |
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| 17:14.30 | Jamash | god gave steve jobs cancer because god was jealous of steve's pr skills |
| 17:14.55 | psymin | I think the pentalobe screws are only for the battery .. (I hope) |
| 17:15.02 | zenzelezz | I don't know, Steve Jobs makes a lot more non-believers than god does |
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| 17:16.22 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:16.28 | airtonix | Comply |
| 17:16.34 | Lunessa | stupid rolling blackouts |
| 17:16.47 | airtonix | Skynets doing |
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| 17:16.53 | Scotepi | can someone who is familure with curseforge keywords and translations check this out before i comit it... before: http://pastebin.com/YYXHpxEe after: http://pastebin.com/HzrKrPk6 |
| 17:17.07 | airtonix | I use Family Lures |
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| 17:19.20 | airtonix | jnwhiteh, is using droid-vnc the only way to use a pc keyboard on an android phone ? |
| 17:19.29 | airtonix | (Easiest way) |
| 17:20.00 | Jamash | just plug it into the phone's ps/2 port |
| 17:20.14 | zenzelezz | "Friends, family, and all lolcats" |
| 17:20.22 | zenzelezz | some interesting stuff in the Dead Space 2 credits |
| 17:21.01 | zenzelezz | looks like everyone got to write a personal note |
| 17:21.51 | airtonix | http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/communication/droid-vnc-server_iwam.html |
| 17:22.07 | jnwhiteh | airtonix: no idea? |
| 17:22.33 | airtonix | Jamash, I find your sarcasm to be of low breeding |
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| 17:23.02 | Jamash | airtonix: your phone doesn't have a ps/2 port? |
| 17:23.23 | airtonix | Yes it's a 486 on training wheels |
| 17:24.10 | airtonix | It has bluetooth, wifi or a miniusb client port |
| 17:24.22 | airtonix | Which I think is also a usb host port, but still a mini usb port |
| 17:24.54 | airtonix | Also, I don't think there is drivers for bluetooth keyboards available for android or my phone |
| 17:27.22 | airtonix | http://pocketpccentral.net/help/android/general/bluetooth_keyboard.htm |
| 17:27.32 | airtonix | Maybe there is |
| 17:28.21 | airtonix | It would much better if there was a synergy client for android |
| 17:33.03 | Jamash | I think they should add flight masters to the western and eastern ends of orgrimmar |
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| 17:40.57 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: well hello there! http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/b65ec4fc-a7c3-46cd-9b26-b05c039ad475.gif |
| 17:41.07 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 17:41.43 | Nobgul | lol |
| 17:47.18 | Adys | http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/?p=2520 |
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| 17:53.07 | Scotepi | how can I debug a addon when it has key words in it and give me a error every time i log in? granted it doesn't effect me and the addon still works but its anoying... http://pastebin.com/HzrKrPk6 |
| 17:53.27 | airtonix | Bugsack |
| 17:53.28 | Nobgul | Anyone know if the ipad has built in gps. |
| 17:53.33 | airtonix | And buggrabber |
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| 17:53.50 | airtonix | Nobgul, it has built in pentalobes |
| 17:54.55 | Scotepi | airtonix, I use !swatter since its part of other addons i use but i still get the popup on every login |
| 17:54.57 | Nobgul | eh a what a screw? |
| 17:55.09 | Scotepi | wants to kick whoever manage auctionere on curse! |
| 17:55.27 | Nobgul | @project auctioneer |
| 17:55.29 | Repo | Nobgul: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/auctioneer/. Auctioneer. Game: WoW. Nechckn (Manager/Author/Tester/Maintainer/Ticket Manager), MentalPower (Author/Tester/Maintainer/Ticket Manager), Norganna (Author/Tester/Maintainer/Ticket Manager). Updated: 104 days ago |
| 17:55.46 | Nobgul | ^^ |
| 17:55.50 | nebula169 | Scotepi: are you using a svn version? the @locale etc string shouldn't show up in code |
| 17:56.26 | Arrowmaster|away | and you can wrap it in other stuff so its a comment in the svn version |
| 17:57.04 | Nobgul | wtf $130 more for the 3g version that has gpd . =( |
| 17:57.07 | Nobgul | gps |
| 17:57.09 | Scotepi | i really dont understand the examples since they don't cover all options, they are just additive tables |
| 17:58.18 | Scotepi | and i would love a example that doesnt use ace >< |
| 17:58.31 | airtonix | Request denied |
| 17:58.42 | Nobgul | lol |
| 17:58.47 | Torhal|work | tosses airtonix down a well. |
| 17:59.15 | airtonix | Being tossed by torhal in any manner is an honour |
| 17:59.15 | Scotepi | I check every single one of my addons and every damn addon uses ace for localization |
| 17:59.29 | psymin | Nobgul, Yep wifi has no gps .. the one that has 3g does |
| 17:59.43 | airtonix | I am jacks excited elbow |
| 17:59.49 | nevcairiel | probably relys on agps, without it would be way too slow |
| 17:59.59 | nevcairiel | and that only works with a cell connection |
| 18:00.44 | Fisker | gewgel muhsik soon nevcairiel |
| 18:01.01 | Nobgul | Yer, Not liking that but eh it looks ok otherwise |
| 18:01.11 | airtonix | Stage one, mangled speech |
| 18:01.42 | airtonix | Fisker, you're only four steps away from alzheimers |
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| 18:02.19 | nebula169 | Scotepi: i assume you're looking for table-name? you can try something like --@localization(locale="zhTW", format="lua_table", handle-unlocalized="english", table-name="SIL_Local")@ |
| 18:02.24 | Scotepi | so is this the better way of doing it? http://pastebin.com/qBvrFN64 |
| 18:02.32 | Arrowmaster|away | Scotepi: use the --@debug@ --@no-debug@ around your localization |
| 18:02.33 | Fisker | you know what's awesome airtonix |
| 18:02.40 | nebula169 | but i've never used non-additive style |
| 18:02.45 | Fisker | rolling out new wiif without a wifi policy in place |
| 18:02.49 | Arrowmaster|away | or better yet what nebula169 said |
| 18:02.54 | Fisker | so i gotta turn on 130 laptops tomorrow |
| 18:02.54 | Fisker | weee |
| 18:03.11 | amro | figures, that's about the only thing you could ever turn on |
| 18:03.11 | nebula169 | looks like thats what he ended up doing in that paste :p |
| 18:03.19 | Arrowmaster|away | actually nebula169 that doesnt work according to the kb |
| 18:03.33 | Fisker | naw amro |
| 18:03.39 | Torhal|work | Scotepi: You need to insert -- before @localization |
| 18:03.43 | nebula169 | it does't uncomment it? or whats it do |
| 18:03.50 | Torhal|work | --@localization |
| 18:04.13 | Arrowmaster|away | kb says table-name is for format="lua_additive_table" only |
| 18:04.14 | Scotepi | Torhal|work, like http://pastebin.com/qBvrFN64 ? |
| 18:04.54 | nebula169 | ahso, i glossed over that |
| 18:04.56 | Arrowmaster|away | that should work |
| 18:05.02 | Torhal|work | Scotepi: I use this: |
| 18:05.05 | Torhal|work | --@localization(locale="zhTW", format="lua_additive_table", handle-unlocalized="ignore", escape-non-ascii=false, same-key-is-true=true)@ |
| 18:05.58 | Torhal|work | Though I suppose you'd need the table-name since you're not using "L" |
| 18:06.40 | Scotepi | yeah, i coudldnt get local L = {} in my sub files to work in my main file, still trying to figure out local variables |
| 18:06.41 | airtonix | http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/182-0412956-9306949?ref_=pd_sxp_grid_i_1_1&a=B003ZJEUBI |
| 18:06.55 | airtonix | Neat little remote control |
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| 18:08.46 | Torhal|work | Scotepi: "local" means local to the scope - which, in that case, would be to that particular file. |
| 18:09.21 | nebula169 | using the provided addon table for stuff like that is a nifty way to avoid using globals |
| 18:09.35 | Scotepi | yeah, thats what i figured however almost all the examples use local L = ...; |
| 18:09.52 | Scotepi | unless ... means something i dont know about im assuming its a table |
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| 18:10.28 | nebula169 | its two values, the name of the addon and a table thats shared for all the files in the addon |
| 18:12.12 | Torhal|work | local ADDON_NAME, private = ... |
| 18:12.18 | Scotepi | imo this page http://www.wowpedia.org/HOWTO:_Localize_an_AddOn is vary, vary broken and hard to follow for someone new to lua |
| 18:12.22 | Torhal|work | Insert that at the top of every file for the shared table |
| 18:12.28 | Torhal|work | Then you can do: |
| 18:12.37 | Torhal|work | private.L = L |
| 18:12.47 | Torhal|work | That will make it available cross-file |
| 18:13.19 | Scotepi | ... is literaly ... not insert code here? |
| 18:13.29 | Torhal|work | Correct |
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| 18:16.21 | Kraps | fuck |
| 18:16.25 | Kraps | that is all |
| 18:17.55 | Scotepi | Its not working, im getting nil for L |
| 18:18.30 | nebula169 | using local _, L = ... ? |
| 18:18.36 | nebula169 | are you sure its at the top of the page |
| 18:18.39 | Scotepi | yep, thats in all my files |
| 18:18.54 | Scotepi | top as in first line or before any code is exicuted |
| 18:19.02 | sylvanaar_work | "Thursday morning, the final 5 IPv4 blocks in the IANA free pool will be distributed according to a global policy, one each to the 5 RIRs. This will be in a ceremony and press conference starting at 9:30 AM local in Miami, FL" |
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| 18:19.07 | nebula169 | the latter should work |
| 18:19.55 | ccox | Any bets on how soon we run into IPV6 routing problems? |
| 18:20.08 | ccox | And how many years after that MS and Apple fix their IPV6 stacks? |
| 18:20.11 | Torhal|work | Scotepi: If you're doing it that way, then you shouldn't also be using "local L = {}" |
| 18:20.44 | Scotepi | i removed that, im trying to check my table but my mous i messing up on me >< |
| 18:20.47 | Scotepi | *mouse |
| 18:21.23 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.crunchgear.com/2011/02/02/everybody-panic-why-were-running-out-of-ip-address-and-whats-going-to-happen-now/ |
| 18:21.30 | sylvanaar_work | read the quote by blizzard |
| 18:21.40 | sylvanaar_work | âwe donât think IPv6 will ever get deployed.â |
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| 18:22.39 | Ackis | Shirik: you alive? |
| 18:22.41 | nevcairiel | ISPs do really seem reluctant to just offer it to people |
| 18:22.57 | sylvanaar_work | i dont know why |
| 18:23.12 | durcyn | it costs money to implement |
| 18:23.13 | durcyn | money that could better be spent on gold plating your retirement parachute |
| 18:23.20 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
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| 18:25.04 | Scotepi | first loaded is http://pastebin.com/mxexPPX6 then http://pastebin.com/YEaTmpGH and finaly here is the first part of my addon http://pastebin.com/nxUxwT2T |
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| 18:30.30 | Scotepi | I added the setmetatable to the first file but still getting nuls |
| 18:30.33 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/9_ways_pee.jpg |
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| 18:33.35 | haste | seen it mikma ! |
| 18:34.49 | nebula169 | are you loading the locale files before the main code files? |
| 18:35.37 | Scotepi | yes unless toc is backwards... it goes local.core,local. zhTW and addon |
| 18:36.27 | Scotepi | i added a print(#) to each file and it printed in the right order |
| 18:36.30 | Ackis | there are 4 heirloom items that give you xp bonuses right? shoulders, chest, cloak and helm? so 10, 10, 10, 5? for a total bonus of 139.755% increase? |
| 18:36.31 | nebula169 | oh |
| 18:36.48 | nebula169 | in the first, you're assigning L to a new table |
| 18:36.55 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEsuZaOmR78 |
| 18:36.56 | nebula169 | -- Default localization - enUS |
| 18:37.05 | Scotepi | Ackis, ring for 5% |
| 18:38.06 | Ackis | ah that's from the fishing weekly contest? |
| 18:38.12 | Scotepi | yeah |
| 18:38.30 | nebula169 | to follow that style, you'd need to use a temp table, then copy that table into L |
| 18:38.36 | Scotepi | nebula169, how/where am I suposed to define the defualt localization? |
| 18:38.51 | Ackis | So you can get 146.74275% and then with RAF you get 440.22825% xp bonus O_o |
| 18:39.01 | nebula169 | or use the table directly, ie L["Addon Description"] = blah |
| 18:39.24 | Scotepi | k, off to curse to reexport |
| 18:40.26 | Scotepi | working now, thanks nebula169 |
| 18:40.33 | nebula169 | yay |
| 18:40.51 | Kraps | i feel like getting the sims bundle, i already have the original game but it kinda boring and buying the expansions individually is crazy |
| 18:41.51 | Scotepi | I hate addons that reset when they are disabled >< |
| 18:42.21 | Ackis | Kraps: buy me a copy too... :D I want it but the sims bundle isn't worth more than $20 to me |
| 18:42.38 | Kraps | Ackis: |
| 18:42.52 | Kraps | just pirate it then |
| 18:43.03 | Kraps | you know you want to |
| 18:43.06 | durcyn | $90 for maxis games, hah |
| 18:43.56 | Kraps | durcyn: maxis was the shit back in the day |
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| 18:46.49 | amro | fugly logo |
| 18:47.11 | amro | I remember back when logos used to be awesome |
| 18:47.22 | amro | I've played apogee games where the intro was more fun |
| 18:48.51 | Scotepi | I think I have a bug in the UI but idk if im doing it wrong or its expected, if you mouse over a targets health/mana bars and do /run print(UnitName("mouseover")); you get nil |
| 18:49.23 | Scotepi | but if you do a portrit you get a value |
| 18:50.25 | Ackis | with RAF you can get 484% xp bonus lulz |
| 18:50.30 | Seerah | Yes, there are a couple spots that do this on the uf's |
| 18:51.18 | Scotepi | grr :( prob no eta on a fix |
| 18:51.44 | Seerah | what are you doing? |
| 18:51.47 | amro | Ackis: I saw someone go from 20 to 50 in 2 minutes |
| 18:52.08 | Ackis | amro: they could've been granted levels as well, you can do up to 30 levels iirc |
| 18:52.20 | amro | yes it was the grant level thing |
| 18:52.24 | amro | stupid |
| 18:52.27 | Scotepi | Updating tooltips with information on units via UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT |
| 18:52.45 | amro | but well, anything to gain new subscriptions is the policy I guess |
| 18:52.46 | Scotepi | GameTooltip:HookScript() but it was horably inacurate |
| 18:53.21 | Seerah | Scotepi: what script were you hooking? |
| 18:53.34 | Scotepi | OnTooltipSetUnit |
| 18:54.26 | Seerah | I'm only using the event in TipTop |
| 18:56.54 | Scotepi | i'll just stick with the event and say its a blizzard bug, lol |
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| 19:00.06 | Kraps | the Sims 3 launcher: causing BSOD's since the day you bought the game |
| 19:00.26 | zenzelezz | it's an omen |
| 19:01.53 | Kraps | i can launch the game from the exe though |
| 19:02.07 | Ackis | hey if my guild wants to go in and kill boss x in 25 man, can we split into two 10 mans after and kill the next boss in separate raids? |
| 19:02.22 | amro | Ackis: yes |
| 19:02.29 | airtonix | Kraps, I launch you |
| 19:03.38 | Kraps | pfn list corrupt |
| 19:03.43 | Kraps | bitches |
| 19:07.00 | airtonix | Kraps, You're gangster posture is insincere |
| 19:08.39 | Kraps | airtonix: do not tempt me to release a bullet into your posterior |
| 19:09.11 | zenzelezz | is that a euphemism? |
| 19:09.59 | airtonix | To say that you smell of rats is to be remitant of the quality of rats |
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| 19:13.06 | Kraps | where can i see my current version of BIOS? |
| 19:13.56 | airtonix | POST |
| 19:13.59 | amro | Kraps: the setup menu for your bios |
| 19:14.15 | amro | yeah post, because you've got plenty of time to write it down as it flashes past |
| 19:14.58 | zenzelezz | you could hit Pause on the POST screen |
| 19:15.21 | durcyn | or just look at the DMI information like a non-droolup person. |
| 19:15.24 | Kraps | airtonix is a very fast reader |
| 19:15.28 | durcyn | droolcup, rather |
| 19:15.32 | durcyn | irony not lost. |
| 19:16.35 | airtonix | You make me wish I had a lower IQ, so I could enjoy your company |
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| 19:20.59 | Ackis | I'm 3 achievements away from getting my dungeon meta drake :D |
| 19:21.57 | airtonix | subscribes to ackis.net |
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| 19:22.18 | airtonix | What does that get you ackis ? |
| 19:22.49 | Ackis | some drake of east/west/north/south wind |
| 19:23.39 | Ackis | http://www.wowhead.com/item=62900 |
| 19:28.10 | airtonix | Amazon refuses to sell me useful stuff |
| 19:28.33 | nebula169 | i need the vc one, but i loathe deadmines |
| 19:28.34 | airtonix | And apparently amazon thinks only USA has univeristies |
| 19:28.43 | Ackis | I have VC done |
| 19:29.32 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: dungeon meta is not a wind drake |
| 19:29.42 | Gnarfoz | it's a stone one ;) |
| 19:31.07 | nebula169 | wind > stone |
| 19:31.25 | airtonix | Captain Planet |
| 19:32.59 | nevcairiel | i have not used the stone drake once, except trying it after i got it |
| 19:33.02 | nevcairiel | damn bugged thing |
| 19:33.49 | nebula169 | you don't like sitting under it? lol |
| 19:40.59 | Scotepi | how do i clear a key in a table? |
| 19:41.17 | zenzelezz | set it to nil |
| 19:41.23 | airtonix | Is it a joke mount ? |
| 19:41.31 | Scotepi | i want to remove it fully |
| 19:41.36 | airtonix | You can't |
| 19:42.12 | nevcairiel | setting it to nil removes it fully |
| 19:42.24 | airtonix | To understand why requires you to understand how Lua works |
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| 20:03.23 | airtonix | Lopeppey, http://i.imgur.com/sVvdx.jpg |
| 20:05.02 | airtonix | It's safe for work by the way |
| 20:05.21 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUMsvrlztNg&feature=player_embedded |
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| 20:08.31 | amro | I stopped at "have you read elitistjerks" |
| 20:09.51 | Adys | i stopped at "www." |
| 20:10.06 | airtonix | You did? |
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| 20:10.10 | Adys | nah |
| 20:10.13 | zenzelezz | I stopp |
| 20:10.17 | airtonix | So you admit to being stopped? |
| 20:10.21 | airtonix | Waht |
| 20:11.45 | Shirik | OSLO, Norway â A Norwegian lawmaker has nominated WikiLeaks for the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize, saying Wednesday that its disclosures of classified documents promote world peace by holding governments accountable for their actions. |
| 20:11.56 | mikma | too boring, did not like |
| 20:12.38 | Ackis | is this real? http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/2/1/d05c0b36-9869-4ef4-99db-5ec9ff05dc3d.jpg |
| 20:13.07 | zenzelezz | Shirik: shouldn't surprise you, they receive hundreds (if not thousands) of nominations every year |
| 20:13.38 | Ackis | Shirik: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/zmrvmidtl7hmjvix/sum/healingDone/?s=6158&e=6578 |
| 20:13.58 | Cairenn | Ackis: that egypt has thrown up internet blocks and such? yes, it's true |
| 20:14.42 | Ackis | Cairenn: that facebook says that (I know about hte blocks) :( |
| 20:14.49 | Cairenn | ah |
| 20:16.05 | Shirik | yeah well |
| 20:16.21 | Shirik | meh, nm |
| 20:16.47 | Cide | is it your birthday today Shirik |
| 20:16.50 | Cide | or did someone screw up the topic |
| 20:16.53 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:16.59 | Shirik | no it is no longer my birthday |
| 20:17.03 | Cide | yesterday? |
| 20:17.08 | Shirik | it was my unbirthday yesterday |
| 20:17.09 | Ackis | last week? |
| 20:17.16 | Cide | what is an unbirthday |
| 20:17.20 | zenzelezz | Shirik hasn't been in the topic for some time now |
| 20:17.26 | Ackis | at least you got a birthday mention Shirik :'( /emoslit |
| 20:17.40 | Shirik | well if you'd tell people when your birthday was |
| 20:18.29 | zenzelezz | I thought Cairenn just used the dates people set on their WoWI profiles |
| 20:18.30 | Ackis | pfft! |
| 20:18.44 | Ackis | my birthday is on a busy day :P I don't think I logged into IRC that day actually |
| 20:18.50 | Ackis | I was mourning |
| 20:19.01 | Cide | not for me |
| 20:19.06 | Cide | for I am a special snowflake |
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| 20:20.04 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2011/02/woman-charged-with-animal-cruelty-for-mailing-live-puppy.html |
| 20:20.12 | Ackis | you're a flake alright |
| 20:20.40 | Shirik | The woman who mailed the box was charged with animal cruelty, then went back to the post office to try to get a refund for the $22 in postage she paid. |
| 20:20.42 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:21.00 | Ackis | americans for you! :P |
| 20:23.23 | Zyn- | it was a puppy between two hamburger buns |
| 20:24.54 | Shirik | omfg xkcd just nostalgiaed me |
| 20:25.50 | airtonix | http://inspiration.sweyla.com/code/ |
| 20:30.46 | haste | oh wth, it actually generated a pretty decent theme |
| 20:31.46 | airtonix | I was looking for a way to convert the 200 odd gedit schemes I have unto pygment styles |
| 20:32.31 | Shirik | Someone explain please |
| 20:32.40 | Shirik | Why banks are offering savings accounts with 1.25% interest |
| 20:32.46 | Shirik | and the average CD is 0.5% interest |
| 20:32.48 | Shirik | (APY) |
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| 20:34.48 | airtonix | Cd? |
| 20:36.02 | Shirik | certificate of deposit |
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| 20:42.01 | Kraps | 25 to 60 GB |
| 20:42.04 | Kraps | nice |
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| 20:46.50 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/ngt1.jpg that's Fisker |
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| 20:47.50 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/W1N.jpg |
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| 20:55.33 | sylvanaar_work | Shirik: http://home.ingdirect.com/products/products.asp?s=OrangeCD |
| 20:57.19 | sylvanaar_work | also, banks are loaning money out at 3.25% |
| 20:57.28 | sylvanaar_work | so they are still making money |
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| 21:01.56 | slouken | Hi! :) |
| 21:01.59 | Cairenn | tacklehugs slouken! |
| 21:02.01 | zenzelezz | y helo thar |
| 21:02.07 | slouken | tacklehugs back |
| 21:02.10 | |Jelly| | hai |
| 21:02.34 | Nobgul | ello |
| 21:03.34 | Shadowed | oh hi slouken |
| 21:04.06 | slouken | ohzi |
| 21:04.11 | Adys | tackles slouken |
| 21:04.16 | slouken | Hey guys! :) |
| 21:04.47 | Adys | it's certainly been a while :P |
| 21:05.52 | slouken | Yep. :) |
| 21:06.02 | Primer | I really wish MoveAnything could move the objectives stuff |
| 21:06.07 | slouken | lol |
| 21:06.14 | slouken | MoveAlmostAnything |
| 21:06.28 | sylvanaar_work | clever |
| 21:09.27 | Nobgul | FluidFrames ftw |
| 21:10.47 | Cide | wow, hey slouken, nice to see you! |
| 21:11.50 | krka | hey slouken, how's the new business going? |
| 21:23.21 | kd3 | zomg |
| 21:23.28 | kd3 | what a crazy thing to walk in to |
| 21:23.43 | Cide | you're too late |
| 21:23.54 | kd3 | as par for the course |
| 21:23.56 | Cide | he only shows up once every hundred years, stays for five minutes, and then disappears again |
| 21:24.24 | tekkub | no that's jeebus |
| 21:24.29 | Cide | oh... |
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| 21:27.50 | slouken | Hey Cide, krka, long time no see! |
| 21:28.15 | industrial | hi |
| 21:29.12 | Cide | indeed :) |
| 21:29.27 | slouken | krka: pretty good, still exploring a business plan. It turns out that starting a business is hard work. ;) |
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| 21:30.53 | Cide | best of luck, I found the stuff you wrote about lock-free programming quite fascinating (for a layman like me anyway) |
| 21:31.22 | Primer | lock-free? |
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| 21:31.32 | slouken | Oh, awesome! :) |
| 21:31.38 | Primer | thread mutexes? |
| 21:31.44 | Cide | multi-threaded programming without the use of locks or mutexes or what have you |
| 21:31.58 | Primer | I'd like to see this |
| 21:32.03 | kd3 | cowers in fear |
| 21:32.11 | slouken | kd3: for good reason :) |
| 21:32.19 | Cide | lol |
| 21:32.25 | Cide | http://slouken.blogspot.com/2011/01/is-lock-free-worth-it.html for the good stuff |
| 21:32.38 | Primer | cool |
| 21:32.46 | Cide | the resources at the bottom are nice too |
| 21:33.08 | krka | i bet it is |
| 21:33.15 | krka | yeah, i like the blog slouken |
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| 21:33.44 | kd3 | sniffing the cactus? *snrk* |
| 21:33.45 | slouken | Thanks :) |
| 21:34.04 | Primer | wow, interesting stuff, Cide |
| 21:34.05 | slouken | Title suggestions welcome. :) |
| 21:34.35 | Cide | I'm just the messenger |
| 21:35.52 | Primer | Checking out what a "lock-free algorithm" is |
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| 21:35.57 | Primer | in the resources |
| 21:36.01 | TC-Work | "You obviously have no idea how many slaves God allowed to die in the African mines just to bring you the rare minerals found in your precious game console. If your Wii is nonfunctional after this mod, maybe prayer will fix it. God will reschedule his entire day to make sure you get to play your video games. Have fun with your brick. " i agree |
| 21:38.03 | slouken | Gotta run.. cheers! :0 |
| 21:38.05 | slouken | :) |
| 21:38.20 | Cairenn | hugs slouken |
| 21:38.37 | slouken | hugs back |
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| 21:42.06 | Kraps | TC-lol |
| 21:43.18 | Primer | Cide: it seems that some of this stuff is wrapped in "magic", i.e. atomic_* |
| 21:43.37 | Primer | How exactly do these guarantee atomicity without a mutex? |
| 21:43.55 | TC-Work | Kraps: 'TC-lol'? |
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| 21:44.19 | Kraps | didnt autocomplete |
| 21:44.41 | Cide | Primer: read the msdn page |
| 21:44.48 | Cide | it describes which c++ operations are truly atomic, for instance |
| 21:44.55 | TC-Work | ah |
| 21:44.59 | Primer | I usually try to avoid MS things... |
| 21:45.09 | Cide | msdn is great |
| 21:45.18 | Primer | if you program for windows, sure |
| 21:45.41 | Cide | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee418650%28v=vs.85%29.aspx |
| 21:45.55 | Cide | it goes into microsoft-specifics naturally |
| 21:46.03 | Cide | but it still describes the general idea |
| 21:46.19 | Primer | Are there no libc equivalents? |
| 21:46.23 | Cide | no clue |
| 21:46.26 | amro | it's hard to believe, but msdn does have good stuff on c++ |
| 21:46.55 | sylvanaar_work | s/on c++// |
| 21:47.20 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/155820/wow-is-like-pour-some-sugar-on-me |
| 21:48.51 | amro | I've never heard of that song |
| 21:49.01 | amro | I thought ice ice baby was the de facto standard for short lived fads |
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| 21:53.55 | kd3 | okay, wth |
| 21:53.59 | kd3 | http://www.eagletribune.com/newhampshire/x1975979554/Storm-cancels-all-but-essentials |
| 21:54.05 | kd3 | look at the picture in the sidebar on the right |
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| 21:54.56 | Nobgul | wow. |
| 21:55.02 | Nobgul | Tiy get your shit yet kd3? |
| 21:55.08 | Nobgul | err you.. |
| 21:55.29 | kd3 | neg; woot takes a while to get crap shipped after wootoffs. I'm expecting next week tbqh |
| 21:56.00 | Nobgul | you see the pc up there today? |
| 21:56.07 | kd3 | ya |
| 21:56.45 | Nobgul | I got one |
| 21:56.47 | amro | woot just depresses me when I can't even afford the ridiculous savings |
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| 22:27.19 | Fisker | what the fuck jnwhiteh |
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| 22:36.00 | bleeter | what the fuck Fisker |
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| 22:44.27 | mckenziemc | ~fiskerslap bleeter |
| 22:44.28 | purl | ACTION slaps bleeter around a bit with Fisker. |
| 22:45.29 | bleeter | Fisker: I hurd u liek camelz http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5138/picture24u.png |
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| 23:08.30 | Kraps | finished mirrors edge |
| 23:09.08 | Kraps | i died multiple times in every sequence |
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| 23:18.59 | TC-Work | Kraps: how long did that take you to finish? i havent even started |
| 23:19.49 | Kraps | TC-Work: steam says 11 hours, but its probably more like 9 or less |
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| 23:38.14 | foxlit | # When two Gods wait on the windowsill, // The wick of the world is burning, still; |
| 23:38.44 | foxlit | Best < 3 EUR spent on steam ever. |
| 23:39.08 | Cide | wat |
| 23:39.32 | foxlit | penny arcade adventure episodes 1-2 were on sale this weekend. |
| 23:39.46 | Corrodias | i've been wondering if EPISODE 3 is ever coming |
| 23:39.56 | Corrodias | must series be doomed to stall on part 3? |
| 23:39.58 | Cide | I don't like penny arcade for some reason |
| 23:40.18 | foxlit | Corrodias: I believe they're publishing the plot in novel form meanwhile |
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