| 00:02.57 | TC-Work | because Shirik's dont know how to drive |
| 00:02.59 | Shirik | Because I'm getting an Oregon driver's license |
| 00:03.08 | Shirik | and they don't care that you had a out of state driver's license |
| 00:03.14 | Shirik | the only thing that gets me is I don't have to do a behind-the-wheel test |
| 00:05.39 | Kraps | maybe left turns are different in Oregon |
| 00:06.29 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: so you are officially changing your state of residence to Oregon now? |
| 00:06.38 | Shirik | within the next few days, yes |
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| 00:06.57 | Arrowmaster | no more living in 5 states at once or is that still going to happen? |
| 00:07.05 | Shirik | nope |
| 00:07.17 | Shirik | it's sad |
| 00:07.17 | Nechckn | Virginia is already in a state of mourning... |
| 00:07.18 | Shirik | the end of an era |
| 00:07.22 | Shirik | I know! |
| 00:07.53 | Nechckn | The people took to the streets with firehoses, covering the sub-freezing area in ice. |
| 00:08.05 | Thrae | Is anyone following this fan "World of Starcraft" project for SC2 to know how they are saving data across custom multiplayer maps in a Warcraft-style RTS? |
| 00:08.11 | Kraps | ok, i dont understand this article. the only way a machine can "go rogue" is through programmer or operator error. i dont get it. http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-12/terminator-scenario |
| 00:09.18 | Nechckn | Eh.. could be a technical glitch/data corruption, et al. Althought there should be multiple failsafes, nothing is completely so. |
| 00:09.23 | Dagmar | Reporters aren't the brightest people in the world |
| 00:09.37 | Shirik | Kraps: People fear everything |
| 00:09.52 | Shirik | This is why we will never get unmanned passenger aircraft |
| 00:09.59 | Shirik | Despite everything showing it would be safer |
| 00:10.05 | Dagmar | Shirik: They generally only make you do a behind the wheel test if you'v enever had a licence before |
| 00:10.17 | Shirik | I don't want to have to take any test!! |
| 00:10.22 | Kraps | no, theres even some examples of "terminator scenarios" |
| 00:10.24 | Shirik | stupid knowledge test |
| 00:10.33 | Dagmar | The thinking is that if you have a licence, you HAD to pass it, and since those rules are the same everywhere, there's no point |
| 00:10.57 | Dagmar | Shirik: That's to make sure you know what the DUI limit is and so forth |
| 00:11.19 | Shirik | funny thing is I've been in Oregon long enough to know that their sample test had an error on it |
| 00:11.23 | Kraps | "Over the course of dozens of interviews with military officials, robot designers and technology ethicists, I came to understand that we are at work on not one but two major projects, the first to give machines ever greater intelligence and autonomy, and the second to maintain control of those machines. Dahm was worried about the success of the former, but we should be at least as concerned... |
| 00:11.25 | Kraps | ...about the failure of the latter. If we make smart machines without equally smart control systems, we face a scenario in which some day, by way of a thousand well-intentioned decisions, each one seemingly sound, the machines do in fact take over all the âkey functionsâ that once were our domain. Then âwe blinkâ and find that the world is one we no longer are able to comprehend or... |
| 00:11.26 | Kraps | ...control." |
| 00:11.27 | Dagmar | ...and that you should speed up when you'r eapproaching an intersection with people waiting to cross and the light is turning yellow |
| 00:11.30 | Shirik | It was correct 2 years ago |
| 00:11.39 | Shirik | it now has a slight error |
| 00:11.52 | Shirik | It's no longer legal for anyone to use a cell phone without a hands free device, not just under 18 |
| 00:12.58 | Nechckn | Kraps That is a pretty interesting article, at least. |
| 00:14.03 | Kraps | Nechckn: it is, i just got the magazine today and the whole "omg sentient robots!" thing irks me |
| 00:14.09 | Nechckn | Some hyperbole, perhaps, but decent examples of bad stuff. Shirik will have to be our last line of defense, making sure that there are good safeguards/a big red "self destruct" button, et al. |
| 00:14.56 | Kraps | just look at the first paragraph |
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| 00:16.18 | Nechckn | Yep, that coupled with "In Iraq and Afghanistan, U.S. troops have been joined on the ground and in the air by some 20,000 robots and remotely operated vehicles" and the likelihood of "unreported/underreported" other instances. |
| 00:18.57 | Shirik | 20,000 robots? |
| 00:19.00 | Shirik | heh |
| 00:19.40 | Shirik | lua> 100000/20000 |
| 00:19.42 | lua_bot | Shirik: 5 |
| 00:19.45 | Shirik | yeah no |
| 00:21.00 | Kraps | Nechckn: of course bad things can happen, but blaming an unfortunate friendly fire incident on robot sentience would be laughable |
| 00:21.20 | Thrae | Shirik: The number of authorized US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan is actually much larger than 100,000 due to the high amount of mercenaries complementing an all-volunteer army. |
| 00:21.28 | Shirik | no |
| 00:21.46 | Shirik | that 100k came from an estimate of the number of sorties by unmanned aircraft |
| 00:21.46 | TC-Work | actually Shirik i tink it's over 20K |
| 00:21.53 | Thrae | Ah, OK |
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| 00:23.43 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: currently afaik all weapons used are 100% controlled by humans, all drones have a controller that must press the fire button to attack |
| 00:24.23 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Otherwise it'd be totally Skynet and then Arnold Swartzenegger would be elected as the Gonvernator again to protect us. |
| 00:24.24 | Arrowmaster | and the military seems more than happy to keep it that way |
| 00:24.38 | Dagmar | It's called "The Easy Button" |
| 00:24.48 | Shirik | they will keep it that way |
| 00:24.58 | Shirik | I don't see any benefit to changing that |
| 00:24.59 | Dagmar | ...which of course well-meaning druids will put tape over and write "IWIN" |
| 00:25.02 | Shirik | until we have drone vs drone wars |
| 00:25.08 | Shirik | That is a scary thought |
| 00:25.14 | Thrae | Dagmar: Where'd that come from |
| 00:25.32 | Nechckn | Shirik Well, it is the same reason why we do not have unmanned vehicles, which would be safer, too.... |
| 00:25.38 | Nechckn | irt planes |
| 00:25.41 | Thrae | Are druids actually ez-mode right now compared to all the other classes? |
| 00:26.00 | Nechckn | They always need some monkey in the seat to be blamed about X, Y, or Z. =) |
| 00:26.05 | Corrodias2 | every class is, always, depending on who you ask. |
| 00:26.16 | Kraps | what difference does it make if it had a human operator or an automatic IFF system? mistakes would be a human's fault |
| 00:26.18 | TC-Work | Thrae: feral does seem to be doing rather well |
| 00:26.19 | Nechckn | lol, exactly, Corrodias2 |
| 00:26.37 | Shirik | Kraps: Psychological differences |
| 00:26.37 | Thrae | TC-Away: Did they ever fix Mangle, or do they deny there was/is a problem? |
| 00:26.43 | Dagmar | Thrae: Where'd what come from? |
| 00:26.50 | Thrae | I heard Mangle-spam is good |
| 00:26.50 | Shirik | It's easy for me to program something to destroy something |
| 00:26.59 | Nechckn | Kraps that is a given, but, yeah, as Shirik says, its all about having someone to point at, directly. |
| 00:27.01 | Shirik | It's hard for someone to be told to destroy something and then go do it by hand |
| 00:27.25 | Nechckn | Instead of some programmer 5K miles away, and 2 years since they programmed soemthing or other |
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| 00:30.19 | Corrodias2 | human errors you can take precautions against; programming errors might be sneakier... but yeah, i'm not sure which to trust more. |
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| 00:31.01 | Kraps | i'm just saying that the article implies that system glitch = OMG SENTIENCE, which is BS |
| 00:31.21 | Dagmar | Reporters aren't the brightest people, man. |
| 00:32.49 | Corrodias2 | not always, no |
| 00:32.54 | Kraps | you'd think a science/tech magazine would try to make technology not seem evil |
| 00:33.05 | Dagmar | Have you ever read Information World?? |
| 00:33.32 | Kraps | no |
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| 00:33.55 | Dagmar | There's a reason that magazine is basiaclly free to anyone who can hold down a job in IT |
| 00:34.13 | sylvanaar | anyone have an example of a broker that updates its tooltip while its shown |
| 00:34.35 | Kraps | Dagmar: explain :) |
| 00:35.01 | Dagmar | They're ad-funded. |
| 00:35.24 | Kraps | so? |
| 00:35.42 | Dagmar | They've regularly published articles on security issues that happened three months ago |
| 00:36.14 | Kraps | heh |
| 00:36.46 | Dagmar | They also long ago fell prey to "controversial" article names |
| 00:37.01 | Dagmar | ...even when the 'controversy' is entirely contrived, or in some cases, just plain crap |
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| 00:51.02 | Cide | boom [Seafood Magnifique Feast] |
| 00:51.16 | KarlKFI|work | we fished that up |
| 00:51.28 | KarlKFI|work | my fishinging fingers hurt |
| 00:51.30 | Cide | how long ago? |
| 00:51.44 | KarlKFI|work | a week ish? |
| 00:51.57 | Cide | nice, well fished |
| 00:52.43 | KarlKFI|work | they put together some guild fishing raids |
| 00:53.02 | KarlKFI|work | i'm not sure why, but ti was funny |
| 00:53.53 | KarlKFI|work | if you have enough peopel fishing a zone you can basically sit at one water place and go around it in circles fishing pools |
| 00:55.54 | KarlKFI|work | i'm angry tho that cooking leveling is dependent on doing dailies for recipies |
| 00:56.26 | foxlit | KarlKFI|work: realistically, you need 6 days? |
| 00:56.50 | KarlKFI|work | i hate dailies |
| 00:57.10 | foxlit | Sucks to be you. |
| 01:01.22 | Dagmar | KarlKFI: That's the way it was in Wrath |
| 01:01.54 | Dagmar | Without it, there would never be any scarcity at all with cooking, and everyone would be 525 in about 15 minutes flat. |
| 01:02.13 | Dagmar | Realistically you only have to do about six dailies to get there |
| 01:03.01 | KarlKFI|work | i understand wanting scacity. i just dont liek the way they did it |
| 01:03.58 | KarlKFI|work | it bothers me that leveling cooking isn't about cooking. it's about doing artificially limiting gathering quests. |
| 01:04.46 | KarlKFI|work | i'd rather they made it something like you have to go train under cooks all over the world |
| 01:05.34 | KarlKFI|work | like in order to get all the recipes you'd have to do a few quests for every cook in every inn in the world |
| 01:06.34 | KarlKFI|work | and maybe have some sort of experimentation requirement like alchemy |
| 01:06.44 | KarlKFI|work | have to make enough X to discover a new recipe |
| 01:07.53 | KarlKFI|work | but instead they took the easy way out and jsut did like 4 daily quests with allt he new recipes in one place |
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| 01:16.30 | Dagmar | Lol never attempt to sell your caged goblins to elves as slaves |
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| 01:17.54 | Dagmar | I now have five dwarves left. |
| 01:18.39 | foxlit | odd observation: time is measured in seal refreshes |
| 01:25.22 | KarlKFI|work | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1920712824 |
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| 02:06.48 | Kraps | EVE removes Pentium 3 support in latest update |
| 02:15.04 | Cide | dang |
| 02:15.07 | Cide | and I had just upgraded |
| 02:15.27 | Cide | guess I need an even newer pc |
| 02:17.03 | KarlKFI|work | lol? |
| 02:17.26 | KarlKFI|work | that woudl be funny if pentium 3 wasn't ancient |
| 02:17.40 | Corrodias2 | i think that's why it's funny |
| 02:18.10 | Shirik | I think I had a pentium 3 in middle school |
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| 02:25.13 | kapipi | I have EVE on my C64, although they call it "Elite" there. |
| 02:25.37 | kapipi | Its basically the same. |
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| 02:27.46 | bleeter | for those wishing to know, just got word from Norgs via SMS that he and his family are 'all fine' after the Qld floods |
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| 02:47.42 | Cide | bleeter: excellent, thanks |
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| 03:16.23 | A-KO | fucking chimaeron |
| 03:16.25 | A-KO | fucking sucks |
| 03:16.26 | A-KO | god damn |
| 03:16.30 | A-KO | DOUBLE POISON FTL |
| 03:16.37 | Cide | hm? |
| 03:16.47 | A-KO | I can't even heal someone up |
| 03:16.50 | A-KO | before they die again |
| 03:16.53 | Cide | sure you can |
| 03:16.59 | A-KO | without using my most inefficient heal? |
| 03:17.02 | A-KO | regrowth? |
| 03:17.04 | Cide | I use Heal |
| 03:17.08 | A-KO | I'm a druid |
| 03:17.13 | Cide | I know |
| 03:17.15 | Cide | you should be on the tanks |
| 03:17.21 | A-KO | yeah well |
| 03:17.28 | A-KO | my guild hasn't put the druids on the tanks |
| 03:17.44 | Cide | so tell them do |
| 03:17.45 | Cide | to |
| 03:17.58 | A-KO | we have 2 priests 2 druids 2 shaman |
| 03:18.12 | Cide | we do it with priests and shama |
| 03:18.21 | Cide | druids on tanks |
| 03:18.59 | A-KO | what's heal's cast time? |
| 03:19.06 | Cide | 2.26 |
| 03:19.14 | Cide | for me |
| 03:23.31 | foxlit | A-KO: use Regrowth |
| 03:26.09 | foxlit | Nourish needs a HoT to be useful; you don't have the GCD. |
| 03:26.15 | Kraps | hotfixes http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1232869 |
| 03:26.18 | foxlit | And Regrowth works out to be cheaper anyway |
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| 03:28.02 | A-KO | foxlit: regrowth on chimaeron? |
| 03:28.05 | A-KO | I'll oom really fast |
| 03:28.38 | foxlit | Are you severely undergeared? |
| 03:29.00 | kd3 | oh wow, that fix happened earlier than I thought |
| 03:29.05 | kd3 | Rank 1 of Pyromaniac no longer improperly gives 5% passive haste. |
| 03:31.09 | Cide | Rejuvenation now consumes 16% of base mana, down from 26%, but still requires 26% of base mana in order to be cast. |
| 03:31.10 | Cide | LAWL |
| 03:31.31 | kd3 | yeah, I don't get the changes along that line |
| 03:31.42 | Dagmar | Someone's donning some asbestos undershorts for that one |
| 03:31.47 | foxlit | Client does the "you're out of mana, idiot!" checking |
| 03:32.08 | kd3 | oh, thank the gods |
| 03:32.13 | kd3 | Players will receive quest credit for killing any quest boss, regardless of party status, so long as they participate in killing these bosses. |
| 03:32.16 | kd3 | in tol barad peninsula |
| 03:33.02 | foxlit | "No more kiting he who has too many eyeballs." |
| 03:33.11 | A-KO | no fix |
| 03:33.13 | A-KO | fox |
| 03:33.16 | A-KO | I'm like half 359 |
| 03:33.19 | A-KO | mostly 346 |
| 03:33.24 | A-KO | err |
| 03:33.26 | A-KO | take that back at this point |
| 03:33.44 | foxlit | A-KO: than you're better geared than me, and I can use Regrowth on that fight. Have Nature's Bounty? |
| 03:33.44 | A-KO | mostly 359, 2 333, 1 316, 1 346 |
| 03:35.27 | Cide | two random heroics |
| 03:35.29 | Cide | double deadmines |
| 03:35.31 | Cide | FML |
| 03:35.34 | kd3 | ouch |
| 03:35.45 | kd3 | has still not gotten deadmines in his random runs yet |
| 03:35.53 | Cide | I hadn't before now |
| 03:36.36 | Necrowins | not missing much |
| 03:36.39 | Necrowins | hate that place |
| 03:36.40 | foxlit | wish all my randoms were vortex pinnacle |
| 03:37.06 | foxlit | as long as I don't need specific loot, that's probably the most awesome instance ever. |
| 03:37.16 | foxlit | [They should totally do an 85-heroic version of Oculus. Just for the QQ.] |
| 03:37.21 | kd3 | ahahaha |
| 03:44.51 | Shirik | foxlit |
| 03:44.53 | Shirik | that is not funny |
| 03:45.04 | Dagmar | I think it's hilarious. |
| 03:45.12 | Dagmar | I queued for 80 heroics a few times at 82. |
| 03:45.23 | Dagmar | Some of thsoe folks didn't get the memo you could do that |
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| 03:45.38 | Dagmar | "WTF? How are you in here? Isn't that cheating?" |
| 03:45.40 | foxlit | Though Oculus is not evil enough |
| 03:45.52 | foxlit | It should be Oculus where you're forced to switch drakes. |
| 03:47.30 | kd3 | oh, huzzah: Titanic Guardian's Burning Gaze ability should no longer put everyone in the zone in combat. |
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| 03:49.56 | Cairenn|afk | purl, hug Aurorus |
| 03:49.56 | purl | ACTION sneaks up on Aurorus and suddenly hugs Aurorus tightly |
| 03:50.05 | Aurorus | whoa |
| 03:50.16 | Aurorus | suprise hugs |
| 03:50.27 | alestane | That happens when you hang out with Cairenn. |
| 03:50.35 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 03:51.10 | Ackis | anyone know of mods that interfere with the raid marking UI at all? |
| 03:51.24 | airtonix | magicmarker |
| 03:51.36 | Ackis | I don't have it installed |
| 03:52.47 | A-KO | finally got that fucker |
| 03:52.49 | A-KO | jesus christ |
| 03:52.50 | A-KO | fuck that fight |
| 03:53.22 | airtonix | ok |
| 03:58.43 | Dagmar | I wouodn't say 'interfere with' in that one's case |
| 03:58.49 | Dagmar | It's just a little aggressive about marking things |
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| 03:59.53 | Wobin | I'd say... enthusiastic |
| 04:08.47 | Jerub | just bought a razer naga |
| 04:09.11 | A-KO | sob |
| 04:09.14 | A-KO | I ust got decked with gear |
| 04:10.11 | Jerub | random s:( |
| 04:10.17 | Jerub | chaos orbs :( |
| 04:17.10 | Mr_Rabies | i can't find the option to enable guild rep in the chat frame wth |
| 04:17.19 | Mr_Rabies | it seems like some of my chars can see it but others can't |
| 04:19.44 | TC-Away | Jerub: i think i am going to move away of late, they are making me unhappy. |
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| 04:40.05 | Kraps | i feel like a douch turning down Tali |
| 04:40.25 | Dagmar | Tell her to get more toes and then you'll talk |
| 04:45.02 | Kraps | um? |
| 04:47.44 | Shirik | ok guys pop quiz |
| 04:47.56 | Shirik | Let's say your php page is causing a 500 error |
| 04:48.03 | Shirik | you don't have the web server logs to look at |
| 04:48.07 | Shirik | what's your next approach? |
| 04:49.44 | Aurorus | .htaccess |
| 04:49.51 | Aurorus | Shirik - that's the most common screw up |
| 04:50.01 | Shirik | but what could be wrong with it? |
| 04:50.12 | Aurorus | execute perms on the directory / file? |
| 04:50.29 | Aurorus | e.g. server told to execute, htaccess saying don't execute from this dir |
| 04:50.30 | Shirik | I have another php file in the same directory that works fine |
| 04:50.43 | Aurorus | ok, can you reduce the PHP file to when it work |
| 04:50.54 | Aurorus | then slowly uncomment lines / functions until you crash |
| 04:51.02 | Aurorus | works* |
| 04:51.10 | Aurorus | the last uncommented line is at fault |
| 04:51.35 | Aurorus | if you can't see it from that line, post it here (in a pastebin) and we can look at it |
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| 04:57.44 | Shirik | ok um |
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| 04:57.58 | Shirik | it appears to be this line.... whether or not it's executed |
| 04:58.08 | Shirik | i.e., the "if" statement preceding it could evaluate to false |
| 04:58.12 | Shirik | but it will stillbreak it |
| 04:58.53 | Shirik | die "Wiki $wiki does not appear to exist or is not accessible from the Toolserver"; |
| 04:59.42 | Cide | why |
| 04:59.47 | Aurorus | are you doing value comparison or cast comparison Shirik ? |
| 04:59.54 | Aurorus | e.g. if ( $var === false ) |
| 04:59.55 | Cide | does the mercurial robes have crit |
| 05:00.00 | Aurorus | note the three equals |
| 05:00.10 | Aurorus | is different from if( $var == false ) |
| 05:00.13 | Shirik | No |
| 05:00.27 | Shirik | That is irrelevant, and I know for a fact the entire expression evaluates to false |
| 05:00.31 | Shirik | in other words, this line does not run |
| 05:00.39 | Aurorus | ok, what about the line above that? |
| 05:00.44 | Aurorus | Can you paste some code? |
| 05:00.50 | Shirik | It works fine if I comment this line out |
| 05:01.06 | Shirik | I figured it out |
| 05:01.19 | Shirik | die is apparently a function, despite the fact that the manual calls it a language construct |
| 05:01.26 | Shirik | Or perhaps it's a language construct that looks like a function |
| 05:01.29 | Shirik | either way php is stupid |
| 05:01.39 | Cide | indeed |
| 05:01.44 | Aurorus | lol Shirik |
| 05:01.45 | Aurorus | XD |
| 05:01.52 | Aurorus | a good workman always blames his tools.... :P |
| 05:01.56 | Cide | but it must be a language construct |
| 05:02.01 | Shirik | No seriously |
| 05:02.04 | Shirik | exit() is a function |
| 05:02.12 | Cide | a special function! |
| 05:02.13 | Shirik | die is a language construct which is identical to exit() |
| 05:02.15 | Shirik | But |
| 05:02.18 | Shirik | You have to use it like a function |
| 05:02.20 | Shirik | wtf is the point |
| 05:02.21 | Cide | right |
| 05:02.24 | Cide | who knows |
| 05:03.16 | Cide | qq |
| 05:03.19 | Cide | I want my robes |
| 05:03.21 | Cide | but they're so bad |
| 05:03.24 | Shirik | fu |
| 05:03.27 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:03.31 | Shirik | I'm not able to do anything right now |
| 05:03.35 | Shirik | because I'm in a crappy hotel |
| 05:03.47 | Cide | sounds fun |
| 05:03.54 | Cide | so |
| 05:03.58 | Cide | help me out |
| 05:04.09 | Cide | either I get the robes, which are an upgrade but overall pretty bad |
| 05:04.17 | Cide | or I get the pants, which are really good |
| 05:04.29 | Cide | but if I get the robe I can get the epic tailoring pants |
| 05:04.36 | Cide | which are an upgrade but pretty meh of an upgrade |
| 05:04.45 | Cide | but the robe gives me cooler looks |
| 05:04.47 | Cide | go |
| 05:06.10 | Thunder_Child | stop playing the game for looks |
| 05:06.19 | Cide | it was the last argument on my list! |
| 05:07.11 | Thunder_Child | firgue out wich will be harder to upgrade |
| 05:07.16 | Thunder_Child | figure* |
| 05:07.22 | Cide | they are both the tier set |
| 05:07.36 | Cide | I don't think I will be switching either of them out anytime soon since the 4pc is so good |
| 05:08.23 | Cide | I went with the legs since you guys are useless |
| 05:08.37 | Thunder_Child | yup |
| 05:08.51 | Thunder_Child | if you wanted help you should of asked 4chan |
| 05:09.09 | Thunder_Child | actaully, i bet that would be amusing to ask 4chan that question |
| 05:09.16 | Thunder_Child | go go troll |
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| 05:22.57 | Dagmar | Noooo. |
| 05:23.01 | Dagmar | Never ask 4chan. |
| 05:23.09 | Dagmar | That's just a spectacularly bad idea. |
| 05:29.31 | bluspacecow | not even for the lolz ? |
| 05:35.03 | airtonix | i don't think the lolz would appreciate their name being used in vain |
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| 06:25.53 | Necrowins | wtb netsplit |
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| 06:57.20 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:03.00 | Mirrormn | how can I have nothing to do all day except a raid and still have no time for coding |
| 07:03.14 | Mirrormn | paradoxical |
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| 07:19.35 | Fisker | kisses Mirrormn |
| 07:24.50 | cogwheel | Fisker: there are sharks in the streets! |
| 07:24.59 | Mirrormn | saves that kiss deep down inside |
| 07:24.59 | airtonix | i have flying tanks |
| 07:25.16 | Mirrormn | I will treasure this moment always |
| 07:26.07 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:26.53 | Fisker | i may not be sick anymore cogwheel |
| 07:26.56 | Fisker | weee? |
| 07:27.06 | cogwheel | i may be |
| 07:27.09 | cogwheel | eeew |
| 07:27.39 | Fisker | yes |
| 07:27.42 | Fisker | I INFECTED YOU |
| 07:27.48 | Fisker | i did it |
| 07:27.52 | Fisker | cold over tcp/ip |
| 07:28.20 | Fisker | now to market my latest invention to the pharmaceutical companies |
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| 08:09.59 | mitch0 | didum |
| 08:19.48 | amro | concrete mixing right outside my window :( |
| 08:19.52 | amro | these headphones aren't loud enough |
| 08:19.53 | airtonix | http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/rabbitvcs-perfect-tortoisesvn.html |
| 08:20.12 | amro | I'm not clicking on a link with perfect and svn in it |
| 08:20.27 | mitch0 | amro: bigot |
| 08:20.33 | airtonix | amro, no one cares |
| 08:20.51 | amro | you two do care enough to respond |
| 08:20.58 | airtonix | no really i don't care |
| 08:21.09 | airtonix | i only care about not caring |
| 08:21.27 | amro | I know Fisker is sick, but you really don't have to play sub for him |
| 08:21.29 | amro | one Fisker is enough |
| 08:21.34 | airtonix | i don't care |
| 08:22.29 | airtonix | mitch0, btw it supports git and provides thunar, nautilus plugins and gedit |
| 08:22.59 | amro | nautilol |
| 08:23.00 | amro | Nautilus now stays responsive while the plugin checks for changes |
| 08:23.41 | mitch0 | airtonix: I prefer cli, and don't quuite like qit :) |
| 08:23.50 | airtonix | i don't care |
| 08:24.22 | mitch0 | airtonix: sharks swimming on the streets of .au |
| 08:24.45 | airtonix | yes i notice the lack of barking dogs |
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| 08:55.10 | mitch0 | meh. maintenance :( |
| 08:56.03 | adimit | is it a patch-maintenance? |
| 08:56.25 | airtonix | no patch |
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| 09:32.41 | Adys | The battle resurrection counter will now correctly reset if players are not inside the dungeon when an encounter resets. |
| 09:32.43 | Adys | what is that? |
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| 09:37.51 | mitch0 | a quote from patchnotes |
| 09:37.59 | airtonix | poetry |
| 09:38.01 | mitch0 | did I win? |
| 09:40.53 | airtonix | there are no winners |
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| 09:46.10 | bluspacecow | *flips a coin* ... wow or plants vs zombies ? |
| 09:48.06 | Kalroth | PvZ .. IN WOW! |
| 09:48.56 | bluspacecow | but its not a daily |
| 09:49.04 | bluspacecow | and i've done on most of my toons :\ |
| 09:50.50 | amro | make more toons! |
| 09:51.14 | amro | you can have up to FIFTY! YEP. |
| 09:51.33 | Adys | i get it. |
| 09:51.44 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.56 | Kalroth | huggles addys |
| 10:00.12 | Fisker | RAAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEE |
| 10:01.03 | mitch0 | almalmalmalmalmalma |
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| 10:04.47 | Fisker | i just died in your arms tonight mitch0 |
| 10:04.59 | airtonix | fag |
| 10:05.29 | airtonix | brosephine |
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| 10:29.34 | Fisker | anyone know some good proxy server software for windows? |
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| 10:30.24 | amro | Fisker: doesn't ssh work? |
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| 10:33.59 | airtonix | don't help gold farmers |
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| 10:43.17 | ZorbaBeta | http://i.imgur.com/jF0mc.png haha. |
| 10:43.59 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 10:45.09 | zenzelezz | I was most displeased to find myself archaeologying in Tanaris when Deathwing dropped by, but didn't kill me |
| 10:48.26 | ZorbaBeta | at some point I'm just going to hang out in Barrens or something for a long time and wait to get obliterated |
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| 10:48.42 | DJJeff | changing someones guild rank resets their guild rep? |
| 10:48.52 | DJJeff | thats pretty lame if you ask me |
| 10:49.04 | zenzelezz | does it now? That sounds like a bug if it does |
| 10:49.49 | DJJeff | yup |
| 11:03.58 | greppy | zenzelezz: are you on norganon? |
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| 11:27.00 | Legorol | how can i extract the default UI files at the moment? i can't seem to find a download link for the appropriate tool |
| 11:36.20 | airtonix | http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/19/technology/19ipad.html?_r=1&hpw |
| 11:36.24 | airtonix | moral of the story is : |
| 11:36.55 | airtonix | if you have enough money you don't need security because you charge anyone with fraud who has the audacity to inform you of your ignorance |
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| 11:55.34 | zenzelezz | greppy: if that's a realm, no. I have no characters named zenzelezz, only Zenzio (Silvermoon EU) |
| 11:56.57 | greppy | zenzelezz: ah, ok, was just wondering because my wife just missed getting fried by deathwing in Tanaris, and she was playing on Norgannon US |
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| 12:01.03 | Computerpunk_ | Legorol. |
| 12:01.06 | Computerpunk_ | ~framexml |
| 12:01.06 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 12:04.47 | Nobgul | DJJeff, We redid all of our ranks last night, added 3 more ranks and moved almost every guild member, no reports of rep issue yet. May be aisolated case on your end. |
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| 12:10.39 | siezefenrish | is the wowinterface.com search window broken? |
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| 12:14.00 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13194-SoundcommandsforeverysoundupdatedforCataclysm.html#comments |
| 12:14.02 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 12:14.08 | bluspacecow | someone updated my sound file listing for me |
| 12:14.18 | bluspacecow | thank the lard for co-authors |
| 12:14.38 | airtonix | MoreCompletleyUslessAddonsForTheNextVersionOfSomething.rar |
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| 12:15.00 | DJJeff | is blizzard gonna fix it so addons that have sound clips dont mute the game music lol |
| 12:15.17 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 12:15.19 | DJJeff | or unmute the game music when they are finished |
| 12:15.26 | bluspacecow | i dont has UI/Macros dev contacts |
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| 12:28.37 | Computerpunk_ | bluspacecow, who does? XD |
| 12:28.52 | bluspacecow | maybe alestane ? |
| 12:29.11 | Computerpunk_ | http://www.gamepron.com/imagery/DanceCentral-ForumPost.png |
| 12:29.13 | Computerpunk_ | gg |
| 12:29.50 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 12:29.54 | bluspacecow | male or female |
| 12:30.00 | siezefenrish | hey bluespacecow build me an addon |
| 12:30.00 | Computerpunk_ | Guess it's male. |
| 12:30.03 | bluspacecow | cause if female that would be totally hot |
| 12:30.28 | bluspacecow | if a guy i would post "no way man thats how you pick up hot chicks" |
| 12:31.05 | siezefenrish | i need an addon that says "herbalism <my skill level>" in my titanpanel |
| 12:31.20 | bluspacecow | sorry |
| 12:31.27 | bluspacecow | i know not how to build that |
| 12:31.54 | siezefenrish | i downloaded the titanpanel professions plugin but it seems to be broken |
| 12:32.08 | bluspacecow | *shrug* i use LDB |
| 12:32.26 | siezefenrish | im still new |
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| 12:34.21 | siezefenrish | i can put ldb buttons on titanpanel? |
| 12:35.24 | Computerpunk_ | siezefenrish, yes. |
| 12:35.33 | Computerpunk_ | Newer version of Titan Panel can mount LDB plugins. |
| 12:35.49 | Computerpunk_ | versions* |
| 12:36.10 | siezefenrish | maybe i can find a similar addon that tracks <something> and make it get my profession level info i need |
| 12:38.10 | Computerpunk_ | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/titan-panel-herbalism.aspx |
| 12:38.12 | Computerpunk_ | Would this work/ |
| 12:38.31 | Computerpunk_ | Going to take a shower. |
| 12:38.40 | siezefenrish | thanks ill check it out |
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| 12:40.00 | siezefenrish | ooo, that is nice, i found this as well http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18680-rwProfessions.html |
| 12:40.19 | mitch0 | sieze: but use a proper LDB display like Bazooka ;) |
| 12:40.47 | siezefenrish | will it bug with titanpanel? |
| 12:41.13 | mitch0 | you'd install it _instead of_ titanpanel |
| 12:41.35 | mitch0 | just kidding btw, I'm the author of Bazooka. if titan works for you, use that of course ;) |
| 12:42.07 | siezefenrish | hmm, is it a bar like titan?' |
| 12:42.27 | mitch0 | yes |
| 12:42.27 | Legorol | bleh, warriors with their weird action bars.. can someone please help me work out what would be the action button id for the first action in a warrior's battle stance action bar? |
| 12:43.13 | mitch0 | sieze: but it doesn't come with any built-in stuff. you'd need plugins for stuff (like clock, etc) |
| 12:43.29 | Adys | Legorol: either 1 or 13 |
| 12:43.32 | siezefenrish | i use mrcurrency |
| 12:43.40 | siezefenrish | is the only real plug in i use |
| 12:43.45 | Adys | Legorol: Warriors only have 11 action bars I believe |
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| 12:44.14 | mitch0 | sieze: well, there's broker_currency (I guess it does what mrcurrency does judging by the name) |
| 12:45.03 | siezefenrish | mrcurrency lists gold tokens points all that, and per char |
| 12:45.18 | mitch0 | same, yeah |
| 12:46.02 | siezefenrish | i might try that, i have vision issues so my titan font is about 3/8" tall |
| 12:46.18 | Legorol | Adys: but i thought warriors' stance switching stuff makes it not use bar 1 |
| 12:46.23 | Legorol | and bars 2-6 are still the normal ones |
| 12:46.40 | Adys | Legorol: yes but battle stance is the default one |
| 12:46.47 | Legorol | hmm ok |
| 12:46.48 | Adys | best is to create a lvl 1 warrior |
| 12:46.51 | Adys | and test there |
| 12:47.05 | siezefenrish | level one warrior post up bar1 for battle stance |
| 12:47.14 | mitch0 | mine is called Jojwer :) |
| 12:47.18 | mitch0 | or soemthing like that ;) |
| 12:49.49 | airtonix | titanbar is bad |
| 12:50.00 | siezefenrish | im working on bazooka now,, |
| 12:50.26 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.29 | airtonix | are you in the infantry ? |
| 12:50.55 | siezefenrish | kk,, all by litle buttons that were hidden in that annoying sliding yellow bar are now on my bazooka bar :( |
| 12:51.18 | mitch0 | well, turn them off |
| 12:51.19 | airtonix | ~english |
| 12:51.19 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, english is "In the words of the great Samuel L. Jackson; English, motherfuc*er. DO YOU SPEAK IT?!" - It is also more geographically spread than any other language |
| 12:52.06 | mitch0 | siezel: clicky the nuke-like icon, go to bulk config -> plugins, select all, disable :) |
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| 12:52.31 | airtonix | you have a nuke button on your bar ? |
| 12:52.38 | airtonix | this doesn't sound good |
| 12:52.46 | siezefenrish | or does it? |
| 12:52.48 | mitch0 | it's the icon for bazooka ;) |
| 12:54.43 | siezefenrish | now to resize and im all set |
| 12:55.44 | siezefenrish | oo i like how it moves my buff down instead of covering them up |
| 12:56.09 | airtonix | every good notification bar does that |
| 12:56.15 | airtonix | only the bad ones don't |
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| 12:56.40 | siezefenrish | titanpanel would eat my player frame |
| 12:56.49 | airtonix | thats not all it eats |
| 12:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | Marshmallows are another favorite. |
| 12:57.48 | siezefenrish | this is nice |
| 12:59.31 | siezefenrish | now if i could get rid of that annoying sliding yellow bar |
| 13:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure you can, if you choose the right tool. |
| 13:00.46 | mitch0 | sliding yellow bar? |
| 13:00.56 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.10 | siezefenrish | it comes with norganna's auctioneer package |
| 13:01.34 | Lopeppeppy | Then see if there's a way to turn it off, based on which addon it's a part of in the package |
| 13:01.39 | airtonix | theres a macro for that |
| 13:02.06 | mitch0 | there's also #norganna (kinda dead though ;) |
| 13:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | norgs is a bit wet right now, not likely to answer questions. |
| 13:03.04 | mitch0 | .au? |
| 13:03.07 | siezefenrish | the last time i deleted stuff from that package i got tons of lua errors,, so i stopped doing that and try to hide it in the corner. its called slider on the folder |
| 13:03.17 | siezefenrish | and its got all the ldb buttons in it |
| 13:03.41 | Lopeppeppy | mitch0, so I believe. |
| 13:04.39 | siezefenrish | o,, slidebar, not slider |
| 13:06.05 | bluspacecow | SlideBar |
| 13:06.24 | siezefenrish | i used ACP to uncheck it,, seems to be ok |
| 13:06.53 | Lopeppeppy | See? Tools are excellent awesome things! :) |
| 13:07.02 | siezefenrish | im working it |
| 13:07.27 | Lopeppeppy | it's a good package, it wants to work with you, honest and for true. |
| 13:08.33 | siezefenrish | i am an addon junkie |
| 13:09.01 | Lopeppeppy | no such thing as too many |
| 13:09.29 | bluspacecow | i use the dump command when wow's up instead of the calculator |
| 13:11.40 | mitch0 | I just ask on guildchat |
| 13:15.01 | siezefenrish | my bazooka is blue now. why did i settle for that titan all these years |
| 13:16.39 | Computerpunk_ | <bluspacecow> i use the dump command when wow's up instead of the calculator |
| 13:16.40 | Computerpunk_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:16.57 | Cruciformer | afternoon everyone |
| 13:18.49 | Nobgul | Its just Slidebar. It has it's own addon package |
| 13:18.57 | Nobgul | Just delete it and profit |
| 13:19.02 | siezefenrish | woot |
| 13:20.10 | Nobgul | Although i have made all my addons sit in the slidebar Makes for a nice addon button holder. |
| 13:20.26 | Jerub | what does it mean when i have 4 people in a LFD who are all talking using ? marks. |
| 13:20.33 | airtonix | i always profit |
| 13:20.41 | Nobgul | Time to move to a us server |
| 13:20.48 | Cruciformer | nevcairiel_: ping re: an idea for SUF thats easier to talk about than ticket about |
| 13:20.53 | mitch0 | well, enchantrix in v5.9.4961 errors out without SlideBar. dunno what's the latestest release of the auctioner suite |
| 13:21.07 | airtonix | Jerub, what Nobgul said |
| 13:21.07 | Nobgul | Accually they are prob using the wonderful encrypted wow chat addon. |
| 13:21.09 | Computerpunk_ | Jerub, either chinese, either russian. |
| 13:21.20 | Computerpunk_ | But you should see russian characters, regardless of client version. |
| 13:21.22 | mitch0 | uhm, seem the latest stable is still the broken one |
| 13:21.23 | Computerpunk_ | And Chinese are on WotLK. |
| 13:21.34 | airtonix | Jerub, also stop using windows |
| 13:21.38 | airtonix | it's bad |
| 13:21.48 | Nobgul | lol |
| 13:21.49 | Cruciformer | windows is bad as opposed to what? |
| 13:21.58 | Nobgul | Linux all the way |
| 13:21.58 | airtonix | one that uses real fonts |
| 13:22.23 | Cruciformer | windows uses real fonts just fine. |
| 13:22.28 | airtonix | obviously not |
| 13:22.37 | Nobgul | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/152366/how-do-increase-the-gold-to-my-gbank |
| 13:22.42 | Nobgul | lol @ ^ |
| 13:22.45 | Cruciformer | any type you like: truetype, cleartype, adobe PFM, you name it. |
| 13:22.50 | Nobgul | the blue post was great |
| 13:22.58 | airtonix | umadbroseph? |
| 13:23.05 | Jerub | it's barthilas |
| 13:23.11 | Jerub | the realm, that is, it's oceanic. |
| 13:23.13 | airtonix | brosephina |
| 13:23.37 | Jerub | haven't they merged the LFD instances anyway? not just accross the battlegroup? |
| 13:23.44 | Nobgul | Sure they have |
| 13:23.58 | Jerub | so moving server won't help :P |
| 13:24.10 | Nobgul | Depends =P |
| 13:24.19 | Jerub | this is pally healer, 3 mage dps 4 person guild group |
| 13:24.21 | Computerpunk_ | rofl |
| 13:24.32 | Nobgul | Jerub, Its prob someone quad boxing. |
| 13:24.34 | Computerpunk_ | Nobgul, maybe he's used to playing WAR. |
| 13:24.37 | airtonix | Nobgul, i found that fairly ammusing |
| 13:24.42 | Computerpunk_ | Where the guild can impose taxes. |
| 13:24.43 | Computerpunk_ | aka Tithes. |
| 13:24.46 | Nobgul | airtonix, So did I last night. |
| 13:25.06 | bluspacecow | @nobul |
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| 13:25.09 | bluspacecow | guess what |
| 13:25.16 | airtonix | Four,oh: four. Page Not Found There was a PAGE here. Its gone now. (Is this what happens to pages that wander into the forest?) |
| 13:25.25 | Nobgul | Some of the blue responses are awesome. I caught one last week where the blue said lulumad |
| 13:25.54 | Cruciformer | News flash: this just in: blizzard employees are gamers too! |
| 13:26.05 | Nobgul | Anyway guess I should do some work. |
| 13:26.12 | Nobgul | Really! who would have thunk it. |
| 13:26.14 | Jerub | Nobgul: nah, they're talking and stuff |
| 13:26.53 | airtonix | newsflash: this just in, newsflashes aren't new. |
| 13:26.57 | Nobgul | WTB free customized version of KPUG kthanx |
| 13:27.12 | Cruciformer | kpug? |
| 13:27.13 | mitch0 | oh, btw, I'd seriously /slap the designer who put that mining node at Gedoon's feet in Hyjal |
| 13:27.22 | Cruciformer | I wrote that, what u want done to it? |
| 13:27.34 | Nobgul | Cruciformer, I am aware that is why i said it =P |
| 13:27.40 | Cruciformer | oh :) |
| 13:27.55 | airtonix | he wan'ts you to stop charging money for it |
| 13:27.59 | Nobgul | lol |
| 13:28.05 | Cruciformer | so few people use it it just caught me by surprise. |
| 13:28.17 | Cruciformer | KSK is much more popular. |
| 13:28.35 | Nobgul | I would accually like to see the loot drop list in a format i could easily upload to my site. |
| 13:28.35 | Cruciformer | air: I dont charge for anything except sordid seks. |
| 13:28.54 | Nobgul | Cruciformer, I have been using it for a while now. I modified it pretty heavily. |
| 13:29.06 | Cruciformer | Nobgul: I am about to publish just such a change, using teh same XML export format and XSLT stylesheet that I use for KSK. |
| 13:29.15 | Nobgul | Nice. |
| 13:29.33 | Cruciformer | nob: I'd be interested to hear about your mods Im always looking at improving it |
| 13:30.27 | Cruciformer | nob: feel free to mail me cruciformer@gmail.com always happy to accept patches or suggestions for improvement. |
| 13:30.29 | Nobgul | I have to run and do some work, I will be back later on in the evening, if you around we can chat. |
| 13:30.59 | Cruciformer | kk if im not use smtp |
| 13:31.11 | Nobgul | k |
| 13:31.24 | Nobgul | See yall later on. Shovel wet snow woot! |
| 13:31.44 | Cruciformer | mmm snow. hate the stuff. its beautiful sunny summer day down here |
| 13:33.16 | Cruciformer | My god but IBM's website is obtuse. |
| 13:33.33 | Jerub | turns out hong kong chinese |
| 13:33.44 | Jerub | i know the language a little :p |
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| 13:35.21 | Wobin | cantonese? |
| 13:35.52 | Cruciformer | random observation: infected mushroom is great music to code to |
| 13:36.49 | Fisker | mmmbob |
| 13:36.53 | Cruciformer | almost, but not quite, as good as DJ Tiesto. |
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| 13:38.23 | Jerub | wobin some catonese, some mandarin. enough to fake these guys |
| 13:38.44 | solo|work | Cruciformer: Yes |
| 13:39.03 | Cruciformer | solo|work: hmm? |
| 13:39.31 | Lopeppeppy | Ni hao? |
| 13:39.40 | solo|work | Infected Mushroom is fantastic coding music |
| 13:39.47 | Cruciformer | ah :) |
| 13:40.11 | Cruciformer | Especially "Legend of the Black Shawarma" |
| 13:40.11 | Jerub | died on last trash of SFK |
| 13:40.15 | Jerub | btw, SFK with 3 mages = suck |
| 13:41.09 | Cruciformer | altho Im listening to "I'm teh Supervisor" atm. |
| 13:41.25 | Cruciformer | Jerub: SFK with anything = suck. I dont like it at all. |
| 13:41.25 | Wobin | Jerub: romanisation of chinese always throws me |
| 13:41.29 | Wobin | especially canto |
| 13:42.09 | solo|work | Cruciformer: I was thinking more Becoming Insane, but I don't know if I've listened to their newest album as much |
| 13:42.17 | Cruciformer | my fave instance is HoO. In fact anything in the Uldum zone = win. that place is incredibly well designed. |
| 13:42.19 | Wobin | Shirik: happy birthday! |
| 13:42.27 | Wobin | Cruciformer: I like vortex pinnacle |
| 13:42.29 | solo|work | oh wait yes i have |
| 13:42.31 | Wobin | it's so pretty |
| 13:42.55 | Cruciformer | solo: the title song is absolutely awesome. I can listen to it 20 times in a row and now get bored. |
| 13:43.07 | siezefenrish | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:43.09 | Cruciformer | now=not |
| 13:43.26 | Wobin | siezefenrish: ugh, I hate tol'vir, as a healer |
| 13:43.31 | Wobin | especially the last two bosses |
| 13:43.45 | Wobin | cause people fail so much in getting out of shit |
| 13:43.52 | solo|work | lol |
| 13:43.55 | Cruciformer | solo: I know the song becoming insane ... is there an album? |
| 13:44.05 | solo|work | yeah, Vicious Delicious |
| 13:44.10 | solo|work | from '07 or so |
| 13:44.36 | Cruciformer | ah yeah I have that one, I was hoping there was an album I'd missed :) |
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| 13:44.54 | Cruciformer | Im bummed I cant see them live in tel aviv this month |
| 13:45.04 | solo|work | :( |
| 13:45.06 | Cruciformer | Im only going to be in tel aviv in october. |
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| 13:45.21 | solo|work | I might be going to see rush in chicago |
| 13:45.22 | solo|work | :D |
| 13:45.28 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, Rush. |
| 13:45.29 | Cruciformer | and I missed them and Tiesto in LA. |
| 13:45.52 | Cruciformer | I *so* want to be a fan of rush becuase they are good musicians but I just cnt get into them. |
| 13:46.18 | Wobin | âOh, Iâll just have a saladâ takes on a new meaning thanks to EpicMealTime; their superhealthy ingredients include cow lettuce, spicy pepperoni carrots, pork croutons and creamy beer dressing. |
| 13:46.20 | Cruciformer | which is is odd since Im a pink floyd fanatic and many floyd fans love rush too, although I fail to see any comparison. |
| 13:46.25 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_profilepage&v=wFB_vHVFM_8 |
| 13:46.27 | Wobin | oh dear |
| 13:46.29 | solo|work | haha |
| 13:46.57 | siezefenrish | pepperoni carrots? |
| 13:47.09 | solo|work | Either you grew up with Rush, or you learn to love them, there's not much middle ground. By today's standards they are old and bland, but I still love 'em |
| 13:47.28 | Arrowmaster | bland? |
| 13:47.30 | Arrowmaster | what the hell |
| 13:47.44 | Adys | Wobin: fuck, Im hungry |
| 13:47.56 | Cruciformer | solo: Many people say the same about floyd but I genuinely believe in 300 years when people look back on this era (give or take a decade or two) they'll still be listening to floyd. |
| 13:47.59 | foxlit | Wobin: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/loadingreadyrun/1471-Meatshroom |
| 13:48.00 | solo|work | Arrowmaster: I don't think so; but that's what I've been told |
| 13:48.17 | Arrowmaster | whoever told you that has never really listened to rush then |
| 13:48.30 | solo|work | lol |
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| 13:48.47 | solo|work | Cruciformer: I dunno. There's a looot of music out there |
| 13:48.49 | Cruciformer | Arrow / solo can you recommend a good album of theirs for me to try ease my way into them? I really love finding good new music. |
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| 13:49.22 | Cruciformer | solo: I somehow dont think people will remember lady gaga in 10 years let alone 100. Pin Floyd on teh other hand ... I bet you people will still listen to dark side of the moon. |
| 13:49.24 | Jerub | Cruciformer: really? i found the production quality of most floydd so low that i find it hard to listen to even today |
| 13:49.47 | Kraps | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2011/01/i-didnt-hear-anyone-say-gg/ |
| 13:49.51 | solo|work | Cruciformer: 2112 or Vapor Trails would be my favorites |
| 13:49.54 | Computerpunk_ | Jerub, dude. You said SFk with 3 mages. I say Stonecore with 3 Hunters. |
| 13:50.04 | Cruciformer | Jerub: I guess I dont have Agilent osciloscopes for ears then becuase they sound fantastic to me :) |
| 13:50.56 | Cruciformer | david gilmour can squeeze more passion into two notes than most guitarists can in a lifetime. |
| 13:51.38 | Wobin | foxlit: his knife wielding skills make me cringe |
| 13:51.47 | Cruciformer | David Gilmour is my hero. AND he drives an Astim Martin DB9 :) |
| 13:52.35 | solo|work | do want |
| 13:52.39 | Cruciformer | *Aston |
| 13:52.52 | Jerub | Computerpunk_: but stonecore with hunters can still CC |
| 13:53.03 | Cruciformer | 3 mages can sheep |
| 13:53.11 | Computerpunk_ | Jerub, on Ormuz? |
| 13:53.12 | Cruciformer | a whole freakin flock of sheep |
| 13:53.27 | Computerpunk_ | Imagine nobody being able to apply a magic dot. |
| 13:53.32 | Jerub | Cruciformer: sure, the guitar comes through quite well, but the sound as a whole is uh.. missing a whole. |
| 13:53.45 | Jerub | Cruciformer: i was in SFK |
| 13:53.48 | Jerub | have you been there? |
| 13:53.55 | Computerpunk_ | I recommend some Primus. |
| 13:53.58 | Jerub | let me remind you. there's .. just a little .. undead. |
| 13:54.15 | Cruciformer | Ah I thought we were talking about 3 mages in stonecore |
| 13:54.20 | Computerpunk_ | No. |
| 13:55.06 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ohXF1TVV7M |
| 13:55.06 | Cruciformer | Jerub: you should try some of the modern remasters. Remember their music IS quite old. DSotM was 1973 after all. |
| 13:55.58 | Cruciformer | the box set with all the emasters and original covers (not teh Shine On box set) is very well mastered. |
| 13:56.07 | Cruciformer | *remastered |
| 13:56.56 | solo|work | h sfk was pretty easy every time I've run it |
| 13:57.23 | Jerub | Cruciformer: i should. i got a copy of dsotm a few years ago (probably 15 ;) ) and i was horribly unimpressed |
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| 13:57.53 | Cruciformer | "Money" at full volume on a good sound system = heaven |
| 13:58.25 | Cruciformer | I have the SACD version of DSotM |
| 13:59.29 | Cruciformer | maybe its because Alan Parson's engineered it. |
| 13:59.44 | Cruciformer | Parsons no ' |
| 14:01.26 | Computerpunk_ | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/ultimatecamouflagep1.jpg |
| 14:01.27 | Computerpunk_ | ahahahahaha |
| 14:01.35 | Computerpunk_ | So much win. |
| 14:01.35 | karl_w_w | so when blizz announced that new forums would be mandatory everybody-posts-win-real name, anybody remember how what size the complaints thread reached? |
| 14:02.16 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/safelock.jpg |
| 14:02.45 | siezefenrish | the forum thread started to produce its own gravity field |
| 14:03.05 | alestane | I've been trying to forget, karl_w_w. |
| 14:03.09 | Cruciformer | I wonder if that thread disproved godwin's law. |
| 14:03.11 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 14:03.46 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/ooowww.jpg |
| 14:03.47 | karl_w_w | can't have Cruciformer, it was closed before it ran it's course |
| 14:03.56 | Cairenn|afk | awwwwwwww |
| 14:04.28 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1765532929 |
| 14:05.15 | mikma | tek |
| 14:05.18 | mikma | bah |
| 14:05.27 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/grizzly_bear.jpg :P |
| 14:07.38 | Lopeppeppy | Is that a baby polar bear? |
| 14:10.01 | foxlit | You know what's silly? They'll probably make an old god boss before deathwing. |
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| 14:23.10 | karl_w_w | where did the old gods come from? |
| 14:23.41 | alestane | They were just kind of there when the Titans showed up. |
| 14:24.01 | siezefenrish | lovecraft hits on the old gods a little |
| 14:24.32 | karl_w_w | well blizzard are planning 2 more expansions right |
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| 14:24.57 | karl_w_w | so 1 has got to be vs old gods and 1 has got to be vs sargeras... or im gonna suicide bomb blizzard |
| 14:25.38 | alestane | They're running out of territory to mine. |
| 14:26.56 | siezefenrish | we still have murlocs and naga as future playable races, and maybe taunka |
| 14:27.11 | alestane | Furbolgs? |
| 14:27.15 | siezefenrish | oo |
| 14:27.45 | siezefenrish | how about yeti tank class |
| 14:28.15 | siezefenrish | or ogres |
| 14:28.41 | A-KO | blizzard still has quite a bit of material to use for expansions for WoW, and of course they can continue to make up new stories as they go, which they are doing in certain situations, if you can catch them. |
| 14:29.56 | karl_w_w | of cours |
| 14:29.57 | karl_w_w | e |
| 14:30.10 | karl_w_w | there's still the whole other side of azeroth |
| 14:30.19 | siezefenrish | naga shamans and furbold warriors |
| 14:30.19 | karl_w_w | and some places on this side we havent seen yet |
| 14:30.47 | karl_w_w | and a forsaken race to kill off |
| 14:30.56 | karl_w_w | ...no? |
| 14:31.15 | A-KO | and yeah, Azeroth may still have yet undiscovered/unknown continents :P |
| 14:31.25 | A-KO | particularly with the Panderans, etc. |
| 14:31.37 | siezefenrish | i really enjoyed the maelstrom entry quests |
| 14:31.45 | A-KO | yeah, but I found it a bit odd |
| 14:31.47 | karl_w_w | there are other continents most certainly |
| 14:31.59 | siezefenrish | thrall out there by hisself just kicking ass |
| 14:32.15 | A-KO | siezefenrish: did you do the old god stuff in twilight highlands? |
| 14:32.30 | siezefenrish | not yet |
| 14:32.36 | A-KO | do it |
| 14:32.41 | A-KO | it's probably one of the neatest quests in the game |
| 14:32.48 | siezefenrish | unless you are talking about the tentacle questline |
| 14:32.52 | A-KO | yeah |
| 14:32.53 | A-KO | that one |
| 14:32.58 | siezefenrish | yeah that was sweet |
| 14:32.59 | karl_w_w | i found it shite tbh |
| 14:33.18 | A-KO | karl_w_w: the neat thing about that quest line is that it messed with your head :P |
| 14:33.26 | karl_w_w | if i wanted to be digested i'd go swimming with the whale shark |
| 14:33.29 | A-KO | it put your char into a nightmare |
| 14:33.54 | siezefenrish | phased too so you had to do it by yourself |
| 14:33.57 | A-KO | I didn't realize that it was a "nightmare" until after they woke my character up, lol.....it was pretty nifty how they executed that. |
| 14:35.08 | siezefenrish | what about the lack of dailies? |
| 14:35.30 | karl_w_w | i quite enjoyed the naz'jar battlemaiden quests |
| 14:35.43 | karl_w_w | lack of dailies? o.O |
| 14:35.55 | siezefenrish | unless you do the tol barad |
| 14:36.06 | karl_w_w | at various points i was wishing i cou7ld do 40 a day |
| 14:36.13 | siezefenrish | i avoid that area for now |
| 14:36.38 | karl_w_w | you could probably cap without the tb dailies |
| 14:36.46 | karl_w_w | and tb is deliberately the biggest hub |
| 14:37.33 | siezefenrish | i understand the whole pvp concept, i just don't get into it much |
| 14:37.53 | Ackis | anyway to disable authenticater requirement for logging into the forums/armory? :( |
| 14:37.58 | karl_w_w | you dont have to pvp to do 9-12 of them |
| 14:38.01 | siezefenrish | fenris is a pve server and the pvp seems fake at most |
| 14:38.19 | karl_w_w | the ones on the peninsula you can just run away from horde generally |
| 14:38.33 | siezefenrish | run away from horde?!?!? |
| 14:38.41 | siezefenrish | someone in here is ally |
| 14:38.45 | siezefenrish | hehe |
| 14:38.56 | karl_w_w | i enjoy it actually |
| 14:39.09 | karl_w_w | on my realm horde tend to party up whereas alliance dont |
| 14:39.31 | karl_w_w | so i just end up doing my dailies with a horde tail :P |
| 14:40.01 | siezefenrish | i leveled a toon on lethon pvp server and i remember hiding in the bushes for most of my questing |
| 14:40.38 | siezefenrish | i enjoyed the cat and mouse of always having to watch your back. |
| 14:40.52 | karl_w_w | i didnt |
| 14:41.07 | karl_w_w | but then the realm i levelled on was 10:1 in favour of horde :P |
| 14:41.18 | siezefenrish | ouch |
| 14:41.29 | karl_w_w | i got off before it reached 15+:1 |
| 14:41.43 | siezefenrish | fenris is about 50:50 |
| 14:42.34 | karl_w_w | that was thaurissan i used to be on, there's no real raiding guilds left on alliance |
| 14:43.06 | siezefenrish | our raiding guilds left server at the end of wrath |
| 14:44.34 | Ackis | anyone know of official wowprogress forums at all? |
| 14:46.16 | karl_w_w | dont think there are any |
| 14:46.53 | Ackis | I want to link my old character to my new one |
| 14:48.45 | Computerpunk_ | Ackis, www.4chan.org |
| 14:48.51 | Ackis | :P |
| 14:48.56 | Computerpunk_ | xD |
| 14:49.15 | siezefenrish | that site is addictive |
| 14:50.17 | karl_w_w | man dvd shrink is such a hard process to kill when it crashes |
| 14:51.19 | siezefenrish | ever used convertxtodvd? |
| 14:51.27 | karl_w_w | i think so |
| 14:51.34 | siezefenrish | i love that program |
| 14:51.41 | karl_w_w | ive tried out a million and 1 things, few come close to dvd shrink |
| 14:52.09 | karl_w_w | which is impressive, considering dvd shrink is 7 years old now |
| 14:52.19 | siezefenrish | convertxtodvd, takes any video file i've ever put into it and turns it into a dvd format disc |
| 14:52.33 | siezefenrish | menus and plays in any dvd player |
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| 14:52.49 | karl_w_w | if ive got generic video ill use nero |
| 14:53.08 | karl_w_w | if ive got some dodgy hard to convert thing ill use avidemux |
| 14:54.46 | karl_w_w | i think convertxtodvd was giving me bugs |
| 14:54.51 | karl_w_w | on win 7 |
| 14:55.38 | siezefenrish | ive got the key for 3.5, works fine on win7, don't have the key for 4.0 |
| 14:57.46 | karl_w_w | there we go: http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=728&factionid=-1&minlevel=85&maxlevel=85&servertypeid=2 |
| 14:58.08 | karl_w_w | 743 active alliance 85s on thaurissan, to 9315 horde |
| 14:58.18 | siezefenrish | wow |
| 14:58.40 | siezefenrish | that aint even right |
| 14:59.26 | siezefenrish | wonder how they let it get that unbalanced |
| 14:59.58 | siezefenrish | no way to control it i guess |
| 15:00.35 | Nobgul | Not at all. I have seen a realm that in voa had 100 alli wins the rest are all horde. |
| 15:00.44 | karl_w_w | when i was there (i left half way through icc) there were as many belf pallies than all alliance. now there are nearly twice as many belf pallies, and horde arent even limited to pallies of 1 race any more :P |
| 15:00.54 | karl_w_w | lol nob |
| 15:01.13 | karl_w_w | until they balanced wg, alliance had defended WG 9 times |
| 15:01.26 | karl_w_w | yes, 9 (nine) |
| 15:01.27 | karl_w_w | :P |
| 15:01.36 | siezefenrish | ouch |
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| 15:01.48 | siezefenrish | no voa for you |
| 15:01.56 | karl_w_w | beautiful thing is once they balanced it we literally held it for like weeks straight |
| 15:02.02 | karl_w_w | cos we had so much practice working together |
| 15:02.25 | siezefenrish | same thing happened here, but then it turned into 7 on 7 |
| 15:02.33 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 15:02.42 | siezefenrish | how do you even attack with only 7 people |
| 15:02.48 | karl_w_w | easy |
| 15:03.00 | siezefenrish | we had to kill npc's to get the 10 kill weekly quest |
| 15:03.41 | karl_w_w | 6 people run off and be distracting, 1 person who knows how to level quickly and knows how to drive a demo sneakily gos up to as far as they can north-east/west, kills the first wall, and shoots the door from there |
| 15:04.03 | siezefenrish | lol |
| 15:04.10 | karl_w_w | ive done it heaps of times |
| 15:04.30 | karl_w_w | and theres a route through the trees you can take to get from BT to the north north west wall |
| 15:05.37 | karl_w_w | if ur careful though it is basically impossible to lose on defence |
| 15:06.30 | karl_w_w | the trick is to rank up as fast as possible |
| 15:06.33 | siezefenrish | im rolling a troll druid to check out the new starting area. Does it seem like they reduced the amount of quest reward gear? |
| 15:06.49 | karl_w_w | i dont think so |
| 15:07.28 | siezefenrish | seemed like i replaced a piece of gear with every quest turn-in the first time through here |
| 15:10.44 | karl_w_w | dont people have better things to do with their time than [23:08:05] [2] [Victromage]: LFM TO KILL HORDE AUCTIONEERS ! PST |
| 15:11.17 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. They think that's funny |
| 15:11.19 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:11.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fisker. |
| 15:11.34 | karl_w_w | why so violent Fisker? |
| 15:12.02 | siezefenrish | i joined one of those tram dance parties once. 2 hours riding the tram back and forth looking for flagged allies |
| 15:12.40 | Fisker | it's not morning Lopeppeppy |
| 15:12.47 | siezefenrish | one of the last guild pvp events i attended |
| 15:13.02 | Lopeppeppy | deal with it, Fisker |
| 15:13.26 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:13.33 | Fisker | goes to work again |
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| 15:22.37 | airtonix | i'm rick rolling your troll |
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| 15:24.24 | karl_w_w | http://www.twitpic.com/3rdj4k/full |
| 15:24.26 | karl_w_w | woo |
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| 15:27.47 | bluspacecow | i like how theres one band listed as "fucked up" |
| 15:28.20 | karl_w_w | that's the actual band's name :P |
| 15:29.08 | karl_w_w | avenged sevenfold were going to be playing, but they complained about not having an evening timeslot, then when they got their evening timeslot they QQed because they were clashing with iron maiden |
| 15:29.20 | karl_w_w | and they ragequit cos they are girls |
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| 15:32.48 | bluspacecow | literally ? |
| 15:32.53 | bluspacecow | or just acted like girls ? |
| 15:33.13 | bluspacecow | nvm just wikied them |
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| 15:38.35 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:38.44 | Fisker | i lol'd |
| 15:38.47 | bluspacecow | eh oh |
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| 15:39.25 | Fisker | i did bluspacecow |
| 15:39.43 | bluspacecow | did WHAT ? |
| 15:39.44 | airtonix | no you didn't |
| 15:40.01 | airtonix | you can't lol with a ball gag in your mouth |
| 15:40.34 | Fisker | so bluspacecow |
| 15:40.44 | bluspacecow | HMMM |
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| 15:41.29 | Fisker | if you violate the naming policies 3 times under the highly inappropiate category, and the third violation is changing back to the name that triggered the first, don't you think that indicates he doesn't care much? :o |
| 15:41.42 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 15:41.57 | bluspacecow | some people change their name to something more offensive then what they were reported on |
| 15:43.16 | foxlit | hah, the argent guards in valley of echoes are 85 |
| 15:43.24 | Fisker | i will destroy you bluspacecow |
| 15:43.26 | foxlit | two-shotting the quest mobs they're fighting |
| 15:44.00 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
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| 15:44.32 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:45.54 | karl_w_w | space? |
| 15:46.39 | Fisker | no bluspacecow |
| 15:48.01 | Fisker | chases bluspacecow around naked |
| 15:48.10 | bluspacecow | O)O |
| 15:48.11 | solo|work | oo |
| 15:48.12 | bluspacecow | station |
| 15:49.36 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:52.49 | Fisker | i saw something inappropiate today bluspacecow |
| 15:52.56 | bluspacecow | oh my |
| 15:53.10 | airtonix | this won't end well |
| 15:53.37 | airtonix | (it's fiskers 13th birthday) |
| 15:53.50 | Fisker | naw airtonix |
| 15:56.57 | Fisker | it was funny bluspacecow :( |
| 15:57.04 | Fisker | Because the book was named Sex |
| 15:57.17 | Fisker | and it went something like "Sex helps adulst help their kids..." |
| 15:57.20 | bluspacecow | the book of sex :) |
| 15:57.31 | Fisker | but it's funny because you could think it was about sex and not the book sex |
| 15:57.46 | Fisker | tee hee? |
| 15:57.58 | Fisker | adults* btw |
| 15:58.41 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 15:58.43 | Fisker | i told a funny |
| 15:58.48 | bluspacecow | ha ha |
| 15:58.53 | Fisker | woo |
| 16:00.38 | airtonix | so you're still sick Fisker ? |
| 16:00.50 | airtonix | Sick en da heeed |
| 16:00.59 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:01.03 | Fisker | i don't have a heeed |
| 16:01.16 | airtonix | brosephine |
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| 16:05.27 | foxlit | Hm, even with heirlooms, 78-80 drags on |
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| 16:07.41 | Thordon | what is the convention for accessing/changing keyed tables? myTable.myKey or myTable["myKey"]? |
| 16:07.45 | Cide | indeed foxlit |
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| 16:10.49 | Maldivia | thordon, both work equally well in cases where the key is static |
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| 16:14.19 | karl_w_w | [85:Shelie]: What are you after? [00:13:03] [G] [85:Larwood]: Larwooc |
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| 16:24.59 | Ackis | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2011/1/19/ |
| 16:28.53 | foxlit | PA has the weirdest publishing strategy. |
| 16:29.00 | foxlit | Stuff appears in RSS before it's actually on the website |
| 16:29.04 | Fisker | fake Ackis |
| 16:29.07 | foxlit | Comics and news posts aren't synced. |
| 16:29.10 | Fisker | i can see from the pixels |
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| 16:30.10 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:30.13 | Fisker | it's a faaaaaaaaaaaaake |
| 16:32.08 | karl_w_w | are the pixels not right? |
| 16:37.08 | mikma | if they are not left, then they might be right |
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| 16:42.46 | karl_w_w | quantum mechanics will tell you they are both |
| 16:43.14 | Fisker | no karl_w_w |
| 16:43.16 | Fisker | fake |
| 16:43.30 | Fisker | can't you see the ticket window say it has 500 characters left |
| 16:43.35 | Fisker | but that isn't true |
| 16:43.39 | Fisker | photoshopped! |
| 16:44.39 | karl_w_w | damn those photoshoppers! |
| 16:44.49 | karl_w_w | a scourge on society they are |
| 16:44.50 | mikma | jesus |
| 16:44.54 | karl_w_w | yes? |
| 16:44.55 | mikma | whine more fisker |
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| 16:52.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes, a cartoon is photoshop-ded! *laugh* |
| 17:00.53 | cogwheel | presses Send on 9500 e-mails and ducks |
| 17:01.11 | karl_w_w | Where is the send button on a duck? |
| 17:01.34 | Lopeppeppy | Behind the beak. |
| 17:01.55 | cogwheel | hugs grammatic ambiguity |
| 17:03.25 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:09.39 | karl_w_w | wants a pause/resume button on windows 7 file copy dialog boxes |
| 17:14.30 | Fisker | teracopy |
| 17:16.10 | karl_w_w | winner |
| 17:16.24 | karl_w_w | gives Fisker a duck |
| 17:19.05 | zenzelezz | oh god... mom's getting rid of some furniture and letting us kids have a look if we want any... so she sends us all an e-mail with five 4 MB pictures |
| 17:19.33 | durcyn | i bet your 9600 baud modem is going to take hours to pull those down since it's still 1996 |
| 17:20.11 | zenzelezz | that's not the problem; this is doubling my Gmail's storage :-p |
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| 17:21.00 | durcyn | so you're now using 40mb of what, 7 gigabytes? |
| 17:21.08 | durcyn | i'm finding it difficult to empathise here. |
| 17:21.20 | Cide | it never hit you that he was making a lighthearted remark |
| 17:21.26 | Cide | god |
| 17:21.28 | durcyn | no |
| 17:21.34 | Lopeppeppy | Picking on his mom a bit. |
| 17:22.05 | durcyn | snarky retorts about 9600 baud modems certainly aren't the least bit lighthearted either, what's your point Cide? |
| 17:22.31 | Cide | I was mostly referring to"(18:21:21) durcyn: i'm finding it difficult to empathise here." which didn't seem very lighthearted in nature |
| 17:22.37 | Cide | but maybe I misinterpreted |
| 17:22.55 | Fisker | oh god Cide |
| 17:22.58 | Fisker | more |
| 17:23.00 | Fisker | mooooooooar |
| 17:23.03 | Cide | moar |
| 17:24.53 | karl_w_w | i honestly suspect guiffy was made by god |
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| 17:25.12 | karl_w_w | and i dont necessarily believe in god! |
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| 17:35.31 | Fisker | karl_w_w |
| 17:35.35 | Fisker | do you know what computers are? |
| 17:37.52 | Fisker | then i will destroy you |
| 17:37.53 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
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| 17:39.24 | Fisker | what have i done?! |
| 17:41.27 | mitchnull | I need a new mouse |
| 17:41.50 | Lopeppeppy | I think you typed something, Fisker, but I'm not sure. |
| 17:44.14 | Fisker | i will destroy you mitchnull |
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| 17:46.56 | Fisker | i'm sad Lopeppeppy :< |
| 17:51.09 | Shirik | Do I need 60Mbps down (15 up) internet speed? |
| 17:51.20 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:51.23 | Fisker | god yes |
| 17:51.29 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Fisker. |
| 17:51.31 | Shirik | It costs $100/mo :( |
| 17:51.34 | Shirik | Work will only pay for $50 |
| 17:51.40 | Fisker | that's not a lot |
| 17:52.09 | Fisker | that's only one $100 hooker bot |
| 17:52.30 | Shirik | lool |
| 17:52.36 | Shirik | the 60mbps service is the only one without PowerBoost |
| 17:53.18 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't need it? |
| 17:53.27 | Shirik | probably not :P |
| 17:53.29 | Lopeppeppy | Or is what the others accomplish with their Boostings? |
| 17:55.16 | Fisker | 60 millibit is not a lot Shirik |
| 17:56.03 | Shirik | I'm sorry I don't live in überland like you Fisker |
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| 17:56.32 | mitchnull | shirik: I'm on 5MB and it's perfectly fine :) |
| 17:57.26 | Shirik | I can get the 25mbps service for about $5 |
| 17:57.30 | Shirik | Since work will pay for $50 of it |
| 17:57.55 | mitchnull | I'd get that then. or the one below that for free :) |
| 17:57.57 | Shirik | The 60mbps one (next up) is $99 |
| 17:58.05 | Shirik | which means I would pay $49 |
| 17:58.43 | Fisker | you got 50Mbit/s mitch0? |
| 17:58.44 | mitchnull | get the cheap one and donate me $50 for a new mouse :) |
| 17:59.02 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:59.11 | Shirik | would you like a new mouse every month? |
| 17:59.31 | mitchnull | no. see? win-win! |
| 18:00.09 | mitchnull | I'll need a new gfx card, but I'll get it from some other indecisive clod :P |
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| 18:02.56 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Sauce <-obvious troll |
| 18:03.03 | Fisker | is it ok if i move that article to dick sauce Shirik ? |
| 18:03.15 | Shirik | no |
| 18:03.26 | Fisker | but that's what they called their band :/ |
| 18:03.40 | Fisker | they're just trying to act like they didn't |
| 18:04.07 | Shirik | no |
| 18:05.16 | Fisker | you're a duck Shirik |
| 18:05.28 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:05.32 | Fisker | quack quack |
| 18:06.48 | Ackis | for the golem council fight, do you only have to kill 2/4 golems? or do all 4 become active? |
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| 18:08.38 | Fisker | no the other 2 are just there for decorational purposes Ackis |
| 18:09.16 | Ackis | I'm guessing in heroic you need to kill all 4? |
| 18:09.17 | Fisker | and they have shared health pools |
| 18:10.37 | foxlit | hm, gluexml |
| 18:10.50 | foxlit | "ERROR - too may characters" :/ |
| 18:11.35 | foxlit | Fisker: http://www.danielbahl.dk/ios/gemid.php << I'm amused, as digitizing those key cards breaks the ToU |
| 18:11.56 | Fisker | yeah old |
| 18:12.48 | Fisker | lol |
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| 18:13.32 | Corrodias2 | doing what now? |
| 18:13.52 | Fisker | he used some kind of livechat script to contact me |
| 18:14.30 | foxlit | Ackis: they rotate in and out of combat; you'll fight all four, but only two at a time |
| 18:14.33 | Corrodias2 | what does it mean to digitize something, and what key cards? :o |
| 18:15.16 | Fisker | you know to take SOMETHING ANALOG AND MAKE IT DIGITAL Corrodias2 |
| 18:15.18 | Fisker | jesus |
| 18:15.24 | Ackis | foxlit: on heroic or normal? |
| 18:15.29 | foxlit | Ackis: both. |
| 18:15.31 | Fisker | and two-factor authentication key cards Corrodias2 |
| 18:15.45 | Corrodias2 | lol |
| 18:15.48 | Ackis | foxlit: ah way Fisker made it sound you only kill 2/4 on normal |
| 18:15.53 | Fisker | they're used here (it's like a paper-authenticator) |
| 18:16.06 | foxlit | Ackis: you took a Fisker's world at face value. What's wrong with you? :) |
| 18:16.06 | Corrodias2 | okay, i guess it's a FOREIGN thing |
| 18:16.12 | Fisker | not really |
| 18:16.16 | Ackis | true :( |
| 18:16.20 | Corrodias2 | you're not allowed to take pictures of them? sad |
| 18:16.28 | Fisker | i'm guessing other countries just evolved passed the need for paper |
| 18:16.55 | Corrodias2 | what are they used for? authenticating something? |
| 18:16.57 | Fisker | i think the last time i used paper challenge/response cards was in some old adventure game |
| 18:17.01 | Fisker | simon the sorcerer perhaps? |
| 18:17.38 | foxlit | Corrodias2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NemID |
| 18:17.46 | Fisker | no Corrodias2 our two-factor authentication challenge/response cards are used only for comical purposes |
| 18:18.10 | Fisker | you just use whatever code you want, because who needs two-factor authentication either way? |
| 18:18.23 | Corrodias2 | i suspect you are being untruthful |
| 18:18.23 | Fisker | We also don't use mail for our mailboxes, or keys for our locks |
| 18:18.30 | Corrodias2 | it is to secure your ice cream rations, isn't it? |
| 18:18.38 | Fisker | and 2 out of 4 golems don't fight you |
| 18:21.34 | foxlit | It's weird having a public key infrastructure where someone else holds your private key :/ |
| 18:24.02 | Corrodias2 | so it's some kind of government-managed encryption system for... government document? |
| 18:24.11 | Fisker | didn't you get a message from the guy who had the site foxlit ? |
| 18:24.17 | Corrodias2 | like your ice cream ration statements? |
| 18:25.18 | foxlit | I who what? |
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| 19:01.43 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, over an inch of ice on my car in some spots! That was seriously not fun to chip off. |
| 19:01.52 | alestane | Doesn't sound like it. |
| 19:02.10 | Lopeppeppy | Took me about 40 minutes. I think I'll fall over now. |
| 19:04.39 | cbreak | can't you just leave it there? |
| 19:04.50 | Fisker | wash it off |
| 19:05.04 | Corrodias2 | flamethrower is the answer |
| 19:05.06 | Lopeppeppy | Not if I want to drive it, cbreak. |
| 19:05.19 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, Corrodias2, come over tomorrow morning and help me get ready for work? |
| 19:05.25 | Corrodias2 | i wish |
| 19:06.07 | Fisker | washing it off is better |
| 19:07.21 | Lopeppeppy | Well, it's currently still snowing, adding water to the mix again for more sleet would be bad all around, I thinks. |
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| 19:13.01 | Shirik | Hey Lopeppeppy |
| 19:13.02 | Shirik | lots of snow? :( |
| 19:13.02 | Shirik | I'm not getting snow |
| 19:13.10 | Shirik | You can come up here |
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| 19:14.29 | Shirik | only the cool people are left |
| 19:14.41 | alestane | waits for the follow-up spam. |
| 19:14.48 | Seerah | same |
| 19:14.48 | batrick | hai shirik |
| 19:15.01 | Shirik | You need a better client alestane :) |
| 19:15.01 | Shirik | (11:13:46)  -⺠Netsplit (*.net â¹-⺠*.split) 83 quits |
| 19:15.03 | Shirik | Hi batrick |
| 19:15.22 | batrick | what are you up to? |
| 19:15.31 | Shirik | I'm about to go pick up my new car :D |
| 19:16.27 | Seerah | what model of Chevy was it again? |
| 19:16.42 | Shirik | Equinoz |
| 19:16.45 | Shirik | Equinox |
| 19:16.48 | Shirik | 2011 |
| 19:17.17 | Seerah | that looks nice |
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| 19:19.07 | Seerah | I'm wanting a Mazda 3 (5-door) or a Mazda 2 myself :) |
| 19:19.25 | Fisker | slaps Seerah around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:19.26 | Seerah | aww... thanks for noticing me, Fisker |
| 19:20.06 | Shirik | I think I can do this |
| 19:20.12 | Shirik | http://www.chevrolet.com/tools/byo/byoCustomizeVehicle.do?year=2011&brand=equinox&title=®ion=undefined&evar10=byo_path_buildbytrim&pvc=10005 |
| 19:20.18 | Shirik | maybe not, that link isn't long enough |
| 19:20.20 | Shirik | oh well |
| 19:20.39 | Shirik | V6 AWD Equinox 2011 with the pioneer sound system |
| 19:20.41 | Shirik | omg sound is so awesome |
| 19:21.30 | Seerah | yeah, it just had me put in my zip code and started me out from scratch, I think |
| 19:22.05 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/5KA2f.png |
| 19:22.05 | Ackis | Shirik: ^ |
| 19:22.05 | Ackis | i r sexay |
| 19:22.11 | Lopeppeppy | I really need a 4wheel or all-wheel drive in the next vehicle. This wimpy southern car isn't cutting it. |
| 19:22.31 | Shirik | over 9000 already? |
| 19:22.48 | Seerah | we're supposed to be getting more snow tomorrow, peppy. are you sending it my way? |
| 19:22.53 | Shirik | Yeah I needed a 4WD/AWD so that I can go skiing :D |
| 19:23.31 | cogwheel | Wheels are so 2000bc |
| 19:23.45 | Ackis | I am over 90000000000 |
| 19:24.06 | Lopeppeppy | Reversing the jet stream for you, Seerah! :) |
| 19:24.11 | Seerah | :) |
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| 19:27.25 | sylvanaar_work | what do you think this guy is playing in this pic http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=180613517610 |
| 19:28.28 | cogwheel | i don't think that link means what you think it means |
| 19:29.23 | Shirik | I think ebay is not an API |
| 19:29.44 | sylvanaar_work | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180613517610&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123 |
| 19:30.04 | sylvanaar_work | thier links are retarded |
| 19:30.18 | Shirik | hm |
| 19:30.21 | Shirik | that's not wow is it? |
| 19:30.27 | Shirik | the UI looks like wow |
| 19:30.28 | sylvanaar_work | its the WoW UI |
| 19:30.30 | Shirik | but the game doesn't |
| 19:30.32 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 19:30.45 | Seerah | that's not Gilneas? |
| 19:30.57 | sylvanaar_work | is it? |
| 19:31.01 | sylvanaar_work | i dont know |
| 19:31.25 | sylvanaar_work | maybe it is |
| 19:31.53 | sylvanaar_work | it looks so foreign |
| 19:33.09 | Shirik | never been to gilneas |
| 19:33.14 | Seerah | http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100919022607/wowwiki/images/thumb/d/df/WorldMap-GilneasCity.jpg/830px-WorldMap-GilneasCity.jpg |
| 19:33.24 | batrick | shirik I switched from ubuntu to debian :( |
| 19:33.30 | batrick | i'm thinking about going to barklinux |
| 19:33.37 | Shirik | how about you go to something that doesn't suck |
| 19:33.39 | Shirik | like gentoo |
| 19:33.45 | batrick | gentoo is for windows fanbois |
| 19:33.48 | batrick | likeyourself |
| 19:33.49 | Shirik | no |
| 19:33.52 | batrick | yes |
| 19:33.53 | Shirik | ubuntu is for windows fanbois |
| 19:33.57 | batrick | no |
| 19:34.02 | Shirik | gentoo is for people that want to use their computer |
| 19:34.05 | Shirik | instead of having their computer use them |
| 19:34.09 | batrick | ubuntu is for windows traitors |
| 19:34.27 | durcyn | any linux that isn't RPM-based is cool in my book. |
| 19:34.30 | Seerah | here's another picture, sylvanaar_work, that shows the cathedral tower and building style |
| 19:34.59 | batrick | why do you like gentoo so much shirik |
| 19:35.04 | Shirik | power |
| 19:35.06 | Shirik | it gives me power |
| 19:35.15 | batrick | vague |
| 19:35.22 | Shirik | I can do anything I want |
| 19:35.32 | batrick | kk |
| 19:35.39 | durcyn | the dependency management is the reason i use it, batrick, since you're taking a poll |
| 19:35.55 | Shirik | some people would say dependency management is the reason they don't use it |
| 19:36.14 | Shirik | emerge --deep --update world LOL 5085032985042 blocks!! |
| 19:36.15 | batrick | i want a linux distribution that is user friendly and doesn't explode whenever you update the packages |
| 19:36.25 | batrick | because icbf dealing with system management |
| 19:36.28 | Shirik | Actually it's gotten a lot better recently |
| 19:37.00 | durcyn | USE="+thing" makes a hell of a lot more sense than pulling in 37 dependency .debs with literally one .so each |
| 19:37.29 | Ackis | how the hell do rated battlegrounds work now? do you just queue for one solo and get put with people your own rating? |
| 19:37.52 | durcyn | no, Ackis, you form a team beforehand, much like arenas |
| 19:37.55 | batrick | you have to queue with a group |
| 19:38.08 | batrick | massive disappointment imo |
| 19:38.14 | Ackis | ah the entire composition, disappointing |
| 19:38.24 | durcyn | anyway, they're both vastly superior to "go and find 5 more yum repos and cross your fingers" bullshit that RHEL/CentOS wallow in |
| 19:38.55 | batrick | i'm tempted to go to freebsd |
| 19:39.00 | Shirik | USE="-emacs emacsdestroyer" |
| 19:39.01 | batrick | linux has been making me rage recently |
| 19:39.12 | Shirik | set and forget |
| 19:39.28 | Shirik | this will allow you to destroy emacs on every opportunity, without having to think about it |
| 19:39.31 | Shirik | don't you want to do that? |
| 19:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, sweet destruction. |
| 19:39.51 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:39.58 | durcyn | eselect editor set --global vim, obviously |
| 19:41.09 | Shirik | also, batrick |
| 19:41.21 | Ackis | can you buy gladiator titles anymore? |
| 19:41.27 | mitchnull | batrick: try freebsd or pcbsd |
| 19:41.44 | Shirik | heresiarchguild mpdelbuono # cat /etc/portage/package.mask |
| 19:41.44 | Shirik | app-editors/emacs |
| 19:41.45 | Shirik | virtual/emacs |
| 19:41.51 | Shirik | So easy to make sure you never accidentally install emacs |
| 19:41.58 | Shirik | because once you've installed emacs, you have to format your computer |
| 19:42.13 | batrick | that's cute shirik |
| 19:42.37 | batrick | anyone have experience running sc2 on wine on freebsd? |
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| 19:43.37 | Shirik | ok so we've gone from ubuntu to debian to freebsd? |
| 19:44.01 | mitchnull | from worse to better, obvious |
| 19:44.21 | mitchnull | although that debian in the middle is kinda strange ;) |
| 19:52.07 | haste | Shirik: exherbo does a better job at depenceny resolution, but it's still in the middle of "we still can break your shit without warning" stage |
| 19:59.25 | Fisker | haste |
| 20:02.04 | Fisker | Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â |
| 20:02.05 | Fisker | Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â haste |
| 20:02.32 | Fisker | stop running away haste :( |
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| 20:02.42 | batrick | i used debian for my server without any problems |
| 20:02.45 | batrick | until i installed nfs |
| 20:02.50 | batrick | nfs has ruined my computing life |
| 20:02.57 | batrick | worst fucking pos fs ever fucking made ever |
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| 20:15.11 | ProNihilist | likes FreeBSD |
| 20:17.06 | sylvanaar_work | man running eclipse under linux the font is magnified so 7pt looks like 18pt |
| 20:18.20 | sylvanaar_work | same goes for firefox actually |
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| 20:18.42 | mitchnull | sylvanaar: you're doing it wrong. or your distro does it wrong. I don't have any issues with eclipse+fonts |
| 20:18.50 | sylvanaar_work | i figured |
| 20:18.53 | mitchnull | ;) |
| 20:18.54 | sylvanaar_work | its opensuse |
| 20:19.15 | mitchnull | I used to have font issues with opera, but it does its own font rendering stuff, and it got fixed in 11 |
| 20:19.25 | nevcairiel | For some reason, i never got eclipse to run really smooth on linux, always worked better on windows |
| 20:19.42 | mitchnull | (it changed fonts mid-sentence for international characters, so the words looked a bit whacky) |
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| 20:26.14 | DJ_Switi | Hello people |
| 20:26.37 | cogwheel | hai |
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| 20:26.43 | DJ_Switi | I need some help ? |
| 20:26.53 | cogwheel | You do. |
| 20:27.14 | cogwheel | ~asktoask |
| 20:27.15 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 20:27.57 | DJ_Switi | I want to regroup all my functions into one lua file. But when for example i'm calling a function in one xml file it works |
| 20:28.22 | DJ_Switi | but when i call a function in another xml in that same lua file, i can't open my addon. I think it crashes |
| 20:29.00 | alestane | First, make sure that both XML files get loaded before your .lua file is executed. |
| 20:29.15 | DJ_Switi | That's the reason i thin |
| 20:29.18 | alestane | The order files are listed in the .toc file is significant. |
| 20:29.22 | DJ_Switi | *k. I'm testing it now. |
| 20:30.25 | DJ_Switi | Nope. doesn't work. |
| 20:30.53 | alestane | Do you get some particular error, or does it leave anything in FrameXML.log? |
| 20:31.40 | DJ_Switi | I do not have log file. |
| 20:31.44 | DJ_Switi | I get no errors, |
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| 20:32.31 | DJ_Switi | habitually, when I put my cursor on my MinimapButton, it shows some texts. But with that error, it shows nothing, and doesn't open. |
| 20:35.52 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:36.08 | Fisker | are you blind or something cogwheel ? |
| 20:36.21 | Sixen | hai cogwheel |
| 20:36.31 | cogwheel | hai Sixen |
| 20:36.37 | Sixen | houru |
| 20:36.43 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 20:36.44 | cogwheel | waits for the FiskerQQ |
| 20:37.04 | Sixen | Knew it was coming. |
| 20:37.04 | Sixen | ;) |
| 20:37.10 | Fisker | knew what was coming? |
| 20:37.15 | cogwheel | your mom? |
| 20:37.19 | Sixen | lololol |
| 20:37.24 | Fisker | naw cogwheel |
| 20:37.31 | Fisker | otherwise i wouldn't be at my keyboard n00b |
| 20:37.47 | Fisker | anyway cogwheel |
| 20:37.49 | Fisker | why so blind? |
| 20:37.55 | cogwheel | astigmatism |
| 20:38.17 | Fisker | i saw what you did there btw Sixen |
| 20:38.58 | Sixen | :P |
| 20:40.38 | mikma | anne hathaway has been casted as catwoman in the dark knight rises |
| 20:41.51 | Fisker | lol rises |
| 20:43.05 | mikma | fisker |
| 20:50.45 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/hard-times.png |
| 20:51.17 | Shirik | ok this is cool |
| 20:51.17 | Shirik | http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/01/make-quick-fixes-quicker-on-google.html |
| 20:52.14 | Cide | that's pretty damn cool |
| 20:52.19 | nevcairiel | thats a neat feature, especially the create-patch-and-attach-to-ticket thing |
| 20:52.31 | nevcairiel | now if google would start supporting git |
| 20:52.52 | Cide | why does github not do this god?! |
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| 20:53.26 | Fisker | looks over a project |
| 20:53.39 | Fisker | what are all these symbols, whitespaces and brackets doing? Better clean that up |
| 20:53.40 | Fisker | hurr hurr |
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| 20:55.46 | Shirik | No tabulation is better than tabs and no spaces |
| 20:57.22 | Cide | tabs just mess things up |
| 20:57.46 | Cide | sorry Adys but you lose |
| 20:57.58 | Adys | ? |
| 20:58.13 | Adys | oh |
| 20:58.14 | Adys | cide |
| 20:58.17 | Adys | check out Go. |
| 20:58.37 | Cide | I want to |
| 20:58.45 | Cide | but I haven't found a good match for it yet |
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| 21:01.39 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 21:01.57 | Cide | In addition to Circle of Healing receiving a 30% healing buff, its radius (around the target) is also being increased from 15 yards to 30 yards in patch 4.0.6. |
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| 21:03.20 | Shirik | nice |
| 21:03.21 | Shirik | wow |
| 21:03.27 | Cide | very nice |
| 21:03.37 | Shirik | holy priests are still going to be OP |
| 21:03.42 | Cide | yes |
| 21:03.47 | foxlit | nerf you. |
| 21:03.53 | Shirik | they are nerfing us! |
| 21:04.03 | Cide | one spell anyway |
| 21:04.23 | foxlit | to the ground, please? :) |
| 21:04.31 | Cide | 15% to one spell or so |
| 21:04.43 | Cide | can't recall any other nerf |
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| 21:05.18 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:05.43 | Ackis | Cide, Shirik: I thought the radius was getting nerfed? |
| 21:05.50 | Shirik | nope |
| 21:05.54 | Shirik | poh is getting nerfed |
| 21:05.58 | Shirik | coh was always getting a buff |
| 21:06.02 | Ackis | ah |
| 21:06.09 | Fisker | Cide, Shirik: I thought the radius was getting buffed? |
| 21:06.17 | Shirik | renew is getting buffed |
| 21:06.23 | Ackis | yeah |
| 21:06.25 | Ackis | lower mana cost |
| 21:06.26 | Shirik | Which is perfect because I use renew more than poh anyway |
| 21:06.30 | Cide | Fisker: CoH is, yes |
| 21:06.40 | Cide | Shirik: try chimaeron imo |
| 21:06.42 | nevcairiel | increased range isnt really a buff, it makes it more unpredictable |
| 21:06.51 | Cide | nevcairiel: unpredictable? |
| 21:06.53 | Fisker | i'm being a jerk to Ackis Cide :( |
| 21:06.55 | Shirik | It means it will select lower health people more frequently |
| 21:06.59 | foxlit | smart targetting. |
| 21:07.05 | foxlit | but that's boring, basically. |
| 21:07.07 | Cide | and it will more frequently hit its full amount of people |
| 21:07.09 | nevcairiel | smart targetting isnt always the best choice |
| 21:07.13 | Cide | since 18 yards is nothing |
| 21:07.22 | Shirik | agree, but in those cases coh is probably not the best choice :) |
| 21:07.22 | foxlit | "HEAL GROUP 5, SHIRIK! WHY AREN'T YOU HEALING GROUP 5?!" |
| 21:07.26 | Shirik | also, that's what paladins are for |
| 21:07.38 | Cide | foxlit: that's what prayer of healing is for |
| 21:07.39 | Shirik | foxlit: poh :P |
| 21:07.39 | Ackis | http://pixelatedgeek.com/2011/01/world-of-starcraft-update-bad-news/ is that old Fisker? |
| 21:07.41 | Cide | it's group-targeted |
| 21:07.50 | Fisker | yes Ackis |
| 21:07.58 | Fisker | it was old even before Blizzard reacted |
| 21:08.10 | foxlit | Shirik: nerf! |
| 21:08.17 | Cide | indeed |
| 21:08.28 | Fisker | the best part is that he's QQ'ing |
| 21:08.28 | Cide | fortunately they're making chimaeron easier |
| 21:09.21 | Fisker | Update #2 â Ryan tried to email Blizzard. Riot Games wants him. More after the break. |
| 21:09.23 | Fisker | lol |
| 21:09.34 | Fisker | so not only did they give him a tool to make his mod |
| 21:09.37 | Fisker | they also got him a job |
| 21:09.40 | Fisker | and he's QQ'ing |
| 21:09.42 | Fisker | hilarious |
| 21:10.32 | Fisker | well the job isn't a done deal, but still |
| 21:11.08 | Shirik | foxlit: Ironically, that's the part that's getting a nerf |
| 21:11.22 | foxlit | Shirik: good, it's justified. |
| 21:11.28 | Shirik | It won't be enough |
| 21:11.38 | Shirik | poh will still be very powerful, primarily because of how awesome mastery is |
| 21:11.42 | foxlit | Hence the need to nerf you some more :) |
| 21:12.02 | Shirik | I think our mastery is getting close to putting druids out of a job |
| 21:13.32 | Fisker | the one for ret paladins are looking nice |
| 21:13.42 | Fisker | pew pew lasers and what not |
| 21:13.59 | Fisker | anyway Ackis |
| 21:14.12 | Fisker | why do you QQ over free publicity and jobs? |
| 21:15.40 | Ackis | I'm not |
| 21:15.43 | Ackis | I was surprised |
| 21:16.19 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 21:16.41 | Cide | I now sometimes have 33% extra healing from mastery |
| 21:16.50 | Cide | when my trinket procs until next patch! |
| 21:16.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:16.57 | Shirik | stupid trinket |
| 21:17.10 | Shirik | I have, consistently, 27% extra healing! |
| 21:17.11 | Shirik | eat that! |
| 21:17.18 | Cide | nice, I only have 20% base |
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| 21:18.01 | Cide | but I need to socket my new pants |
| 21:18.13 | alestane | welcomes Aurorus graciously. |
| 21:18.55 | Dagmar | Stalking someone else now, eh? |
| 21:19.18 | alestane | <- ? |
| 21:19.37 | alestane | Hardly stalking. |
| 21:19.43 | Ackis | I changed my gems on my gear the other day and didn't realize I messed up my meta gem requirements :( |
| 21:20.27 | Ackis | I used to play wow with someone named Aurorus |
| 21:20.49 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 21:21.06 | Fisker | you did read the conclusion to that naming policy violation jerk? |
| 21:21.50 | Ackis | nope |
| 21:21.55 | Ackis | I hate the CSR forums tbh |
| 21:22.13 | Fisker | well he didn't get banned :P |
| 21:22.31 | Fisker | So 3 highly inappropiate name violations (where the last one was renaming it back to the original offense) |
| 21:22.33 | Ackis | ah yeah I saw you say that yesterday |
| 21:22.40 | Fisker | i lulz'd |
| 21:24.39 | Ackis | I need help spelling a word that I know how it sounds, what it means but have no idea to spell it... it's pronounced own-us |
| 21:24.59 | alestane | ~dict onus |
| 21:25.07 | Ackis | danke |
| 21:25.21 | Fisker | you're not german |
| 21:25.26 | Fisker | die Ackis die |
| 21:25.27 | Ackis | nein |
| 21:25.44 | Fisker | bai |
| 21:25.46 | Ackis | someone asked me once on IRC if I spoke german... I responded with nein and they started talking to me in german :( |
| 21:26.02 | Fisker | wow |
| 21:26.04 | Fisker | germans are smart |
| 21:26.08 | Ackis | alestane: my first attempt at spelling onus was onneus |
| 21:26.10 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:26.12 | alestane | http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2005-11-08 |
| 21:26.17 | alestane | Ackis: ^ |
| 21:26.36 | Ackis | hehe |
| 21:26.39 | Fisker | I usually get "Are you danish?"(In danish of course), then i reply "No" (Also in danish), then they start talking to me in english |
| 21:27.30 | Ackis | wait |
| 21:27.37 | Ackis | Fisker is a breakfast pastry? |
| 21:28.04 | Fisker | i wish |
| 21:28.18 | Fisker | wait, i don't because then i would eat myself :( |
| 21:29.12 | Ackis | remove your lower two ribs and you could... |
| 21:29.36 | alestane | I feel seriously bad for the little girl in these: http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2004-12-13 |
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| 21:32.51 | Dagmar | alestane: Good thing she's not real |
| 21:33.00 | alestane | Well, yes. |
| 21:33.27 | alestane | The gnome in this one http://www.machall.com/view.php?date=2004-11-20 on the other hand, would totally be one of my former students if he played WoW. |
| 21:35.33 | alestane | And she herself might not be, but there are still plenty of kids in that position out there. |
| 21:35.51 | Dagmar | This is where parents who can be loud come into play. |
| 21:36.03 | Dagmar | You go down and in a booming voice explain why the teacher is an idiot |
| 21:36.06 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 21:36.21 | alestane | And then nothing else happens, usually. |
| 21:38.00 | Dagmar | Ah but the point isn't to get anything to happen. That's a mook's game. Any teacher who'll carp about something like a duck in a bikini but *not* be absolutely furious about certain other ducks *never wearing pants* is a lost cause |
| 21:38.32 | Dagmar | The point is to humiliate and erode their authority in the eyes of students and faculty alike, so that they have to find a job elsewhere. |
| 21:41.10 | Ackis | this can't be real: http://nogreatillusion.tumblr.com/post/2824969178/this-is-something-that-happened-to-me |
| 21:45.25 | Xyphoid | locksmithing is a huge scam in NYC isn't it? |
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| 21:46.24 | Xyphoid | http://consumerist.com/2008/10/i-fell-for-the-locksmith-scam.html |
| 21:57.07 | Kraps | hey guys |
| 21:57.36 | Kraps | can we pretend that airplanes in the night sky are shooting stars? |
| 21:57.53 | alestane | Certainly. |
| 21:58.03 | Kraps | i could really use a wish right now, wish right now, wish right now |
| 21:59.54 | olafski | interesting story ackis |
| 22:02.04 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:06.02 | Cairenn|afk | introduces Aurorus to jnwhiteh and vice versa |
| 22:06.17 | Aurorus | hello jnwhiteh |
| 22:06.37 | Cairenn|afk | Aurorus: jnwhiteh is lua_bot's owner |
| 22:06.46 | Aurorus | ahh ok |
| 22:07.04 | Aurorus | hey jnwhiteh - whenever you're around give me a ping :) |
| 22:07.27 | Cairenn|afk | please note, jnwhiteh is in the UK - jnwhiteh, please note that Aurorus is in AU |
| 22:07.39 | Aurorus | eh, that's gonna be fun XD |
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| 22:07.49 | Cairenn|afk | indeed |
| 22:08.41 | Cide | I don't get it |
| 22:08.48 | Cide | why are we introducing Aurorus to everybody |
| 22:08.59 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh is everybody? |
| 22:09.14 | cogwheel | also |
| 22:09.15 | Cairenn|afk | we aren't, I was just introducing them to each other because Aurorus wants to ask jnwhiteh a favour |
| 22:09.16 | cogwheel | ~hug Cairenn|afk |
| 22:09.16 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn|afk tightly until Cairenn|afk turns slightly blue |
| 22:09.21 | Cairenn|afk | hugs cogwheel |
| 22:09.34 | Cide | I see |
| 22:09.42 | Aurorus | Cide: Would you like to be introduced too? |
| 22:09.45 | Aurorus | :P |
| 22:09.58 | Cide | I figure you already know me |
| 22:10.01 | Cide | *cough* |
| 22:10.05 | Cairenn|afk | introduces Cide to Aurorus and vice versa :p |
| 22:10.22 | Aurorus | heh :P |
| 22:11.05 | Kraps | Cide: umad? |
| 22:11.14 | Lunessa | There are skeletons in everybody's closet. I can think of one or two in my own room. I would like to introduce them both to you, shake their boney hands and so dispel the gloom. |
| 22:11.53 | Cairenn|afk | there are no skeletons in my closet - I just leave them sitting right out in the living room for everyone to meet |
| 22:12.45 | Cairenn|afk | giggles semi-hysterically and decides maybe she should get some sleep |
| 22:13.09 | Aurorus | lol Cairenn|afk |
| 22:13.19 | Lunessa | :D (tbh, I was quoting a song lyric - http://www.elyrics.net/read/c/crash-test-dummies-lyrics/the-ghosts-that-haunt-me-lyrics.html) |
| 22:13.29 | alestane | tucks Cairenn in with a mug of spiked hot chocolate. |
| 22:13.38 | alestane | It had that sound, Lunessa. |
| 22:13.44 | Aurorus | spiked? o.O |
| 22:13.46 | Cairenn|afk | purrs at alestane |
| 22:13.46 | KarlKFI|work | Xyphoid: That's what AAA is for. you call AAA, they call you a locksmith from their list, locksmith bills AAA. all covered by the AAA membership |
| 22:13.49 | Aurorus | She's already going to sleep :P |
| 22:14.25 | alestane | Kahlua, Bailey's, Goldschlager...there are many things that are tasty in cocoa. |
| 22:15.32 | alestane | lua> table.insert({}, 5) |
| 22:15.33 | lua_bot | alestane: No output |
| 22:15.41 | alestane | thanks lua_bot. |
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| 22:22.07 | Lunessa | And Goldschlager is nasty. |
| 22:22.33 | alestane | That depends very much on what you do with it. |
| 22:22.41 | alestane | And it does call for a very light hand. |
| 22:22.57 | Ackis | is Aurorus with wowi Cairenn|afk? |
| 22:29.24 | Nobgul | Ackis, eh |
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| 23:06.11 | jokajak | hola, i have a question about svn repositories on wowi, is it possible to convert them to git? |
| 23:07.13 | Nobgul | umm |
| 23:07.22 | krka | should work |
| 23:07.26 | krka | git-svn is made for that |
| 23:07.43 | Nobgul | I need to wakeup you beat me to it krka |
| 23:08.09 | jokajak | krka: i mean take a project that is already svn and change it to git |
| 23:08.22 | jokajak | ie, my project is under svn on wowi and i want to convert it to git |
| 23:08.27 | jokajak | geez |
| 23:08.44 | Nobgul | geez what? |
| 23:09.02 | Nobgul | >_< |
| 23:09.14 | jokajak | git-svn works if i want to keep working with the svn repo but i want it to go away |
| 23:09.41 | krka | git-svn can also be used to import all history from svn to git |
| 23:09.49 | jokajak | yep, which i will do now |
| 23:09.57 | jokajak | but, i don't have anything to push to |
| 23:10.04 | alestane | So, you want to export your current svn repository into a new git repository and remove the svn repository. |
| 23:10.05 | Nobgul | You can convert the svn to git on your pc, then push it. After your git is setup you can then ask dolby, to delete the old svn |
| 23:10.17 | jokajak | precisely |
| 23:10.20 | jokajak | i'm working on the cloning now |
| 23:10.26 | jokajak | just gotta look up the git-svn syntax |
| 23:12.10 | jnwhiteh | jokajak: I have a set of scripts i use |
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| 23:12.18 | jnwhiteh | if you want to get rid of the svn script, its perfect |
| 23:12.22 | jnwhiteh | I've used it on all of my repos |
| 23:12.46 | jnwhiteh | Yay for bit.ly |
| 23:12.46 | jnwhiteh | http://bit.ly/aZFCMy |
| 23:13.01 | jnwhiteh | You can use that to convert your svn repo to a git repo, clone the resulting repo and then push that wowi |
| 23:13.07 | jnwhiteh | its quite quick, actually |
| 23:13.19 | jnwhiteh | I'm off to bed, but its pretty straightforward :P |
| 23:13.25 | Nobgul | night jnwhiteh |
| 23:13.28 | Nobgul | ~nobgul |
| 23:13.28 | purl | Nub! |
| 23:13.36 | jnwhiteh | ~emulate jnwhiteh |
| 23:13.47 | Nobgul | cookie |
| 23:13.54 | Nobgul | where is edi =( |
| 23:15.40 | jokajak | jnwhiteh: thanks, night |
| 23:15.44 | jokajak | btw, <-- joshborke |
| 23:15.56 | jokajak | so you don't all think i'm an idiot :P |
| 23:16.11 | Nobgul | whats a joshborke? |
| 23:16.17 | Nobgul | ~joshborke |
| 23:16.18 | purl | Yes, I'm even more stupid than Thrae. I'm also a smart-ass. And apparently I'm not a person, so I don't count. |
| 23:16.26 | jokajak | :D |
| 23:16.42 | jokajak | oh, is today cairenn's bday? happy bday cairenn *hugs* |
| 23:16.46 | jokajak | ~hug Cairenn|afk |
| 23:16.46 | purl | ACTION jumps into Cairenn|afk's lap and huggles and *hugs* Cairenn|afk |
| 23:16.51 | Nobgul | It was a few days ago =P |
| 23:17.14 | Jamash | Did they update the PTR in the past 5 minutes? |
| 23:17.14 | Nobgul | purl, joshborke is a addon author |
| 23:17.14 | purl | ...but joshborke is already something else... |
| 23:17.15 | jokajak | well...someone should update the topic more often |
| 23:17.23 | jokajak | don't redefine me :( |
| 23:17.23 | Nobgul | ~joshborke |
| 23:17.23 | purl | Yes, I'm even more stupid than Thrae. I'm also a smart-ass. And apparently I'm not a person, so I don't count. |
| 23:17.29 | jokajak | that's epic from 3+ years ago |
| 23:17.33 | Nobgul | lol |
| 23:17.43 | kd3 | there's a new build; I'm patching now |
| 23:17.53 | Jamash | woooooooooooooot |
| 23:18.04 | Nobgul | Speaking of 3+ years you gonna work on your addon's? I used to love Healwatch |
| 23:18.17 | Nobgul | was quite upset when it wasn't updated anymore |
| 23:20.37 | Jamash | ptr updated but realms still down :( |
| 23:20.46 | kd3 | which is standard |
| 23:20.53 | Jamash | I'll standard you |
| 23:21.00 | kd3 | is nearly done "applying non-critical updates" |
| 23:21.00 | jokajak | Nobgul: i thought someone else superceded it |
| 23:21.23 | Nobgul | jokajak, Not that I have seen. |
| 23:23.05 | jokajak | hrm, that's the main reason I stoppped developing it |
| 23:24.23 | jokajak | let me see if i can remember what the replacement was... |
| 23:24.39 | jokajak | oh look at that |
| 23:24.43 | jokajak | Alternative mods |
| 23:25.20 | jokajak | i don't play wow anymore |
| 23:25.28 | jokajak | so it'll make it difficult ;-) |
| 23:25.51 | Nobgul | =X |
| 23:26.59 | jokajak | hm |
| 23:27.07 | jokajak | looks like libhealcomm is what i'm thinking of |
| 23:28.16 | durcyn | it's built into the game now, last i checked. |
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| 23:28.38 | zenzelezz | <jokajak> btw, <-- joshborke <jokajak> so you don't all think i'm an idiot :P <-- you sure that doesn't work the other way around? :) |
| 23:28.38 | Nobgul | Yea it is |
| 23:28.52 | jokajak | so i don't look like a complete idiot, i haven't looked in to wow addons since i stoppped playing which was duing BC |
| 23:29.02 | jokajak | Nobgul: you just like the display? |
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| 23:30.52 | Nobgul|Sleep | hrmm |
| 23:31.11 | Nobgul|Sleep | jokajak, yr |
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| 23:31.33 | jokajak | zenzelezz: thanks for that :P |
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| 23:31.43 | zenzelezz | jokajak ;) |
| 23:32.20 | mitchnull | missed the boat :( |
| 23:34.25 | jokajak | hrm, i gave bindingsreminder over to someone else... |
| 23:34.30 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/01/world-of-starcraft-modder-shut-down-pleads-for-blizzard-approval.ars |
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| 23:37.01 | jokajak | hungarian keyboard layout is weird |
| 23:38.05 | zenzelezz | does it make using Hungarian notation less painful? |
| 23:38.16 | jokajak | no |
| 23:38.25 | jokajak | is Lothay around? |
| 23:39.05 | zenzelezz | ~seen Lothay |
| 23:39.10 | purl | zenzelezz: i haven't seen 'lothay' |
| 23:39.16 | jokajak | i don't think that is his irc name |
| 23:39.24 | zenzelezz | oh, bugger |
| 23:39.31 | jokajak | that's why i asked :P |
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| 23:39.57 | durcyn | isn't that Lunessa |
| 23:40.08 | durcyn | #wowuidev.log:20100802 15:03:29< Lunessa> JoshBorke: I'm "Lothay" on WoWI. |
| 23:40.11 | durcyn | logstalked. |
| 23:40.22 | Lunessa | That's me. |
| 23:40.22 | Cide | well played sir |
| 23:40.51 | jokajak | durcyn: way to go back in time |
| 23:40.58 | durcyn | Cide: i take offense at being called 'sir', sir. |
| 23:40.59 | zenzelezz | oh bah |
| 23:40.59 | jokajak | Lunessa: hey, i just updated the bindingsreminder svn project |
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| 23:41.11 | zenzelezz | durcyn's grepping outdid mine it would seem |
| 23:41.12 | jokajak | man, all these people from the past |
| 23:41.12 | Cide | are you by any chance female? |
| 23:41.14 | jokajak | look, it's a tuller! |
| 23:41.27 | durcyn | Cide: well, no. |
| 23:41.27 | zenzelezz | incidentally, nano did not like opening an 80 MB file |
| 23:41.42 | Tuller | i'm from the past, present and future? |
| 23:41.45 | jokajak | Lunessa: i pushed the changes from 3ice but i don't know if it works |
| 23:41.46 | Lunessa | I haven't even touched the SVN for the project. I just have some half finished changes to the mod on my hard drive. |
| 23:42.32 | jokajak | but it works with 40000! (and i wrote it in 20000) |
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| 23:43.20 | Lunessa | Yeah, it works right up until they drop support for getglobal |
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| 23:44.09 | jokajak | yea, that'll be a problem... |
| 23:44.19 | jokajak | i remember that trick, i was fairly proud of that |
| 23:44.38 | jokajak | not that it's that much of a trick, but you know what i mean |
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| 23:44.58 | jokajak | looks at all his old addons and reminises (sp) |
| 23:44.58 | batbot | jokajak, reminisces. |
| 23:45.07 | jokajak | batbot: thanks! |
| 23:45.12 | zenzelezz | jokajak: what trick was that? |
| 23:45.31 | jokajak | zenzelezz: not much of a trick, just mixing xml layout with lua population |
| 23:45.43 | kd3 | emails out |
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| 23:47.09 | jokajak | hm, where do i look up ui changes again? |
| 23:47.30 | kd3 | I'm still doing my emails, or... |
| 23:47.32 | kd3 | ~framexml |
| 23:47.32 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 23:48.09 | jokajak | like what changed between 30000 and 40000 (big bullet points) |
| 23:48.25 | kd3 | http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_4.0.1/API_changes |
| 23:48.37 | jokajak | is wowpedia the new wowwiki? |
| 23:48.40 | kd3 | yes |
| 23:48.46 | kd3 | we forked back in october |
| 23:48.54 | jokajak | oh geeze |
| 23:49.24 | jokajak | Lunessa: are they getting rid of getglobal? |
| 23:49.45 | Lunessa | depricated, use _G[ ] now. |
| 23:49.46 | zenzelezz | are you doing anything with getglobal that can't be done with _G? |
| 23:49.53 | zenzelezz | damnit Lunessa |
| 23:49.58 | jokajak | these are all new things to me |
| 23:50.03 | jokajak | and i seriously doubt it |
| 23:50.55 | jokajak | where is that talked about? |
| 23:50.56 | zenzelezz | as far as I'm aware, at least, you can basically replace getglobal(X) with _G[X] |
| 23:51.03 | foxlit | no, in fact, function getglobal(x) return _G[x]; end |
| 23:51.43 | Cide | or replace getglobal(x) with _G[x] |
| 23:51.58 | Cide | naturally it's not as easy if you want to do it across a whole project that abuses getglobal |
| 23:52.05 | Cide | with parenthesis matching and all |
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| 23:52.48 | jokajak | it's not abuse if it was correct! |
| 23:53.12 | jokajak | geeze, make it sound like i'm terrible |
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| 23:53.49 | Cide | why does the kde alt+tab not allow shift to go backwards |
| 23:53.52 | Cide | it annoys me to no end |
| 23:53.59 | zenzelezz | it doesn't? That's silly |
| 23:54.11 | kd3 | alt+shift+tab should work in qt apps... |
| 23:54.15 | kd3 | fires up something to check |
| 23:54.35 | Cide | I'm talking the kde alt+tab switcher |
| 23:54.58 | Cide | it doesn't recognize shift at all for me |
| 23:55.08 | Cide | maybe I just need another keybind or something |
| 23:55.08 | kd3 | oh, huh. dunno about that |
| 23:55.15 | jokajak | Lunessa: i'll go ahead and make that change and push it up to wowi |
| 23:55.32 | jokajak | hm, should i be lazy and define getglobal or replace it? |
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| 23:59.33 | Lunessa | ok/ |
| 23:59.41 | jokajak | Lunessa: i just with a local function getglobal(name) return _G[name] end at the top of the .lua file |
| 23:59.43 | Lunessa | Sorry... just really slammed here at work |
| 23:59.53 | jokajak | Lunessa: no sweat, it's not that important |
| 23:59.57 | jokajak | i can check back tomorrow |
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