| 00:01.27 | karl_w_w | why would anyone want to hunt elves? :( |
| 00:02.15 | Dagmar | Becase it's *fun* |
| 00:02.48 | foxlit | That looks like an elf. hunter. |
| 00:02.58 | Dagmar | What the hell is with the cover art? |
| 00:03.47 | Dagmar | Did someone with a cousin owe someone a favor there or what? |
| 00:04.35 | Dagmar | It's not hideous, but it does have all the polish of something you'd find in the locker of a jr. high school art student |
| 00:06.18 | KarlKFI | fuck... i'm listening to a classical piano channel and pandora keep bringing up Break Your Heart by Taio Cruz |
| 00:06.25 | KarlKFI | nooooo |
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| 00:11.47 | KarlKFI | lol |
| 00:12.01 | KarlKFI | there was a Break Your Heart piano cover |
| 00:12.08 | KarlKFI | apparently i thumbs up'd it |
| 00:12.20 | KarlKFI | so it keeps trying to play the orig -_- |
| 00:13.00 | Dagmar | Yeah, by the same token you have to watch yourself around some techno tracks. Moby's "Move" in particular |
| 00:13.15 | Dagmar | ...because there are like 4,000 remixes of it. |
| 00:15.17 | TMc51_ | 4000 remixes? lol, sounds like Requiem for a Dream. Too many remixes of it, and almost all of them sound exactly alike. |
| 00:15.42 | foxlit | Vortex Pinnacle is *awesome* at night |
| 00:17.31 | Dagmar | TMc51_: Moby did one of those, too. |
| 00:17.48 | Dagmar | Electronic dance music can be a little incestuous sometimes. |
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| 00:22.00 | airtonix | only because of emos |
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| 00:22.20 | tem | So |
| 00:22.26 | airtonix | yeah |
| 00:22.29 | tem | I bought beef kababs for supper |
| 00:22.33 | tem | I do not have a grill |
| 00:22.45 | tem | what's my next step? |
| 00:22.54 | airtonix | buy a grill |
| 00:23.15 | tem | negatron |
| 00:23.23 | airtonix | that'll work too |
| 00:23.37 | airtonix | although you need to set blasters to macksimum |
| 00:23.56 | Dagmar | You could always develop a sense of taste and skip the grill. |
| 00:24.05 | airtonix | frying works too |
| 00:24.14 | airtonix | or the oven |
| 00:24.20 | Dagmar | Real men bury gold. They don't stash it in their mouth like a squirrel. |
| 00:24.29 | airtonix | lol |
| 00:24.52 | karl_w_w | ive never heard of someone not having a grill before |
| 00:24.55 | airtonix | i'm sure that will go down well at your next aa meeting |
| 00:25.07 | karl_w_w | what sort of cooker doesnt have a grill? |
| 00:25.13 | airtonix | the kind without grills |
| 00:25.17 | Dagmar | People who live in apartments. |
| 00:25.42 | airtonix | i'd boil potatoes and then bake it in the oven with the kebabs |
| 00:25.53 | airtonix | with some herbs or something |
| 00:25.59 | airtonix | and butter |
| 00:26.53 | karl_w_w | drain the potatoes first |
| 00:27.42 | tem | karl_w_w, I don't usually cook |
| 00:28.02 | tem | but there was a special on these kababs at my neighborhood grocery and I couldn't resist |
| 00:28.07 | tem | they just look so delicious |
| 00:28.27 | tem | I'm think I'm going to try just sticking them in the over for ~15 minutes |
| 00:28.30 | airtonix | so do kittens |
| 00:28.34 | Arrowmaster | have a gas stove? |
| 00:28.38 | TMc51_ | Dagmar: Whenever I'm living in Georgia, I'm in an apartment, and even then I have a grill. Everybody does. |
| 00:28.58 | Dagmar | TMc51_: Most places that is *illegal* because apartment complexes BURN |
| 00:29.16 | TMc51_ | but then again, that might just be a southern thin. Most people I know here in NY don't even own grils,e ven if they own a house. |
| 00:29.29 | airtonix | lol? |
| 00:29.51 | airtonix | every single dwelling in australia has grills |
| 00:29.53 | karl_w_w | what on earth |
| 00:29.58 | TMc51_ | You think that's funny? Most people here in NY don't even know you can make your own BBQ sauce, yet alone how to. |
| 00:30.03 | karl_w_w | how do you burn a house down with a grill? |
| 00:30.08 | airtonix | i know right? |
| 00:30.15 | airtonix | by sticking your curtains in it |
| 00:30.19 | karl_w_w | haha |
| 00:30.33 | TMc51_ | karl_w_w: By being a retard and not using it in the parking lot, or yard, and trying to grill in the kitchen. |
| 00:30.34 | Dagmar | The only time ther'es been a major fire like that in the south, it was a fuckin' Yankee that did it |
| 00:30.46 | Dagmar | New York has burned itself almost down a couple time |
| 00:30.49 | Dagmar | s |
| 00:31.39 | airtonix | what do you call the thing between the oven and the stove top then ? |
| 00:31.47 | Dagmar | A _rangE_. |
| 00:31.53 | KarlKFI | im in an apt and have a grill, but then this is california where they dotn rust out in 1 winter |
| 00:32.19 | KarlKFI | lol range != grill |
| 00:32.22 | karl_w_w | a range of what? |
| 00:32.36 | Arrowmaster | im in ohio with a fuck ton of show on the ground outside all around the grill and its not rusted..... |
| 00:32.39 | airtonix | http://www.disabledhands.com/Bosch%20Liftmatic1.jpg |
| 00:32.43 | Dagmar | A range of entertaining sensory options for the enterprising youngster |
| 00:32.55 | airtonix | that oven is ownage |
| 00:33.23 | Dagmar | I bet that fucker is interesting to clean |
| 00:33.29 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 00:33.58 | airtonix | "i'm just going to stick my head in here to clean it..ooohh fuuuu" |
| 00:34.03 | Fisker | slaps Dagmar around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:34.13 | KarlKFI | Arrowmaster: that's what anti-rust coating is for |
| 00:34.20 | karl_w_w | moral of the story: dont lick your oven clean |
| 00:34.22 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 00:34.25 | Arrowmaster | and a cover |
| 00:34.25 | Dagmar | I was thinking more about the fun of oven cleansers dripping down into your eyes |
| 00:34.47 | airtonix | http://www.clivepeeters.com.au/products/kitchen/cooking/ovens/Westinghouse-GGP475WLP.aspx |
| 00:34.52 | KarlKFI | put it in your real oven and bake it off? |
| 00:34.57 | Dagmar | hahah |
| 00:35.23 | Dagmar | My mom's last oven we noticed something hilarious when she finally replaced it |
| 00:35.33 | airtonix | that you never cleaned it |
| 00:35.34 | karl_w_w | it was full of dead rats? |
| 00:35.38 | Dagmar | There was a switch on the front door you were supposed to throw when it was in "cleaning mode" |
| 00:35.38 | KarlKFI | technically tho i think the grill is the thing you put on top of the heating element |
| 00:35.55 | KarlKFI | so you could have a grill covering your stove top range |
| 00:35.57 | Dagmar | I always thought it was a little odd that there were no visible wires going from the door to the rest of the oven. |
| 00:36.05 | KarlKFI | but i wouldnt call that whole unit a grill |
| 00:36.12 | karl_w_w | wires |
| 00:36.17 | karl_w_w | now im confused |
| 00:36.27 | Dagmar | Turns out they weren't just being really stealthy about hiding the wires. The switch did diddly and squat in no particular order. |
| 00:36.48 | KarlKFI | it's an indication to you to not open the door |
| 00:36.54 | KarlKFI | self reminder |
| 00:36.58 | karl_w_w | what needs to be wired in to an oven door? o.O |
| 00:36.58 | Dagmar | Because it was clean? |
| 00:37.10 | KarlKFI | no because while it's cleaning it's fucking hot |
| 00:37.33 | KarlKFI | way hotter than when it's normally cooking |
| 00:37.37 | Wobin | hahah http://twitter.com/#!/marcfennell/status/25953336628879360 |
| 00:37.37 | Dagmar | Yeah, call me odd, but how does that differ significantly from having it set on 500 and BAKE |
| 00:37.50 | airtonix | http://imgur.com/RH6X1 the highlighted part is the grill |
| 00:37.53 | KarlKFI | self clean mode is like >> broil |
| 00:37.53 | Dagmar | ...but the switch did *nothing*. |
| 00:37.56 | Dagmar | Wasn't even connected to anything. |
| 00:38.08 | Dagmar | I took the door apart |
| 00:39.08 | KarlKFI | "Many of self-cleaning ovens heat up to around 850 degrees Fahrenheit" |
| 00:39.10 | Arrowmaster | that bored? |
| 00:39.33 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, the thing was going to the dump, so I figured I might as well see what it connected to |
| 00:39.48 | Dagmar | Turns out there's not a whole hell of a lot inside an oven at all |
| 00:39.50 | KarlKFI | i dunno about you but i wouldn't want to open the door and blast ymself with 850 degree heat |
| 00:40.32 | karl_w_w | why ever not |
| 00:40.34 | airtonix | don't knock it till you tried it |
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| 00:41.04 | KarlKFI | if it's enough to turn burnt on crap to ash i dont want it ashifying my face |
| 00:41.46 | mckenziemc | KarlKFI: i'm actually playing around with a script that would, among other things, let me process a single development repository and push it to multiple 'child' repos that use different packaging systems |
| 00:42.01 | mckenziemc | if it turns into anything worthwhile, i'd be willing to share it |
| 00:42.28 | airtonix | http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f35/pauls-new-outdoor-kitchen-oven-melbourne-8187.html |
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| 00:47.24 | KarlKFI | NEWS@11: This just in... apparently iTunes movies DO contain HDCP and it DOES in fact work on my Apple 30" cinema and Gigabyte GeForce GTX460 in windows. |
| 00:48.54 | airtonix | ok |
| 00:50.17 | cbreak | KarlKFI: HDCP is between the GPU and the screen |
| 00:50.23 | KarlKFI | where as on my 8800 (which suppossedly also supports HDCP) it does not work with my 30" |
| 00:50.27 | cbreak | iTunes movies do not contain anything related with HDCP |
| 00:50.35 | cbreak | that gets added by the graphics card if at all |
| 00:50.57 | KarlKFI | apple claimed their HD movies use HDCP |
| 00:51.05 | KarlKFI | claims* |
| 00:51.13 | Dagmar | Ermm... not quite |
| 00:51.35 | Dagmar | They claim they have DRM, and they'll tell you outright that iTunes utilizes HDCP measures |
| 00:51.40 | KarlKFI | didn't i already list those quores earlier? |
| 00:52.04 | Dagmar | Yes, but it's not hte same thing as "their movies use HDCP" |
| 00:52.08 | cbreak | there are many other DRM related technologies |
| 00:52.17 | KarlKFI | [14:55]<KarlKFI>"An HDCP connection is required in order to view movies (purchased or rented) and TV shows transmitted over HDMI." |
| 00:52.32 | cbreak | hdcp is just for ensuring an encrypted path between screen and gpu for example |
| 00:52.43 | KarlKFI | granted not using hdmi, let me fidn the other quote |
| 00:52.45 | Dagmar | ...and a nice safe monopoly. |
| 00:52.48 | Cide | I don't get it |
| 00:53.02 | cbreak | it's not in the movie from the start, it gets added later |
| 00:53.39 | KarlKFI | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3209 |
| 00:53.51 | Cide | how difficult can it be to create a recorder that captures from the dvi connection or whatever |
| 00:54.10 | KarlKFI | "In order to purchase, rent, and view HD content from the iTunes Store on your computer, you need to have the latest version of iTunes installed, you can download the latest version here. In addition, you will need to have components that support HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) installed on your computer. " |
| 00:54.15 | Dagmar | it's not that it's _hard_ it's that it's _expensive_ because it requires a rather hefty amount of CPU power |
| 00:54.26 | Cide | to do what |
| 00:54.33 | Dagmar | KarlKFI: It's iTunes that requires HDCP, not the media. |
| 00:54.49 | cbreak | real time encryption and decryption of raw 60Hz HD image sequences |
| 00:55.05 | Dagmar | Cide: To encode the analog conversion of it because if you dare to record it directly, apparently you kill babies |
| 00:55.08 | cbreak | but all that iTunes moaning is irelevant until apple actually does offer movies in their store |
| 00:55.11 | KarlKFI | that's a valid argument. is there another player that can play itunes movies? |
| 00:55.22 | cbreak | so far, all they have is audio, apps and books |
| 00:55.28 | KarlKFI | uh |
| 00:55.30 | Cide | I missed the beginning of the discussion so /shrug |
| 00:55.32 | KarlKFI | what are you smoking? |
| 00:55.44 | KarlKFI | they offer movies. just not a huge selection |
| 00:55.56 | KarlKFI | they dont have buy in from all the studios |
| 00:56.09 | cbreak | hmm. Maybe they added them recently. |
| 00:56.14 | KarlKFI | no... |
| 00:56.19 | cbreak | I hadn't seen anything when I checked last year |
| 00:56.23 | KarlKFI | years ago |
| 00:56.31 | Dagmar | Ah... F'ing finally. Their DRM is called "FairPlay" |
| 00:56.45 | KarlKFI | no that's the audio drm |
| 00:56.45 | cbreak | Dagmar: the audio drm is fair play |
| 00:56.55 | Dagmar | ...which is anything but, but that's beside the point. It's not like "TPM" means a damn thing that "Trusted Platform Module" would imply |
| 00:57.05 | cbreak | but it allows lossless decoding to an unencrypted format |
| 00:57.49 | KarlKFI | i have movies in itunes purchased in 2008 |
| 00:57.55 | KarlKFI | so... not really new no |
| 00:58.04 | KarlKFI | they added HD more recently than that tho |
| 00:58.08 | Dagmar | Look carefully http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITunes_Store |
| 00:58.15 | Dagmar | FairPlay is still used on their video stuff. |
| 00:58.43 | KarlKFI | most audio content is drm free amt |
| 00:59.02 | KarlKFI | they shifted everything to "iTunes Plus" |
| 00:59.03 | Dagmar | HDCP ensures that display manufacturers have paid money into the monopoly kitty |
| 00:59.04 | tem | my fire alarm goes off every time I cook :( |
| 00:59.20 | cbreak | which sensor triggers it? |
| 00:59.31 | KarlKFI | o^2 sensor prolly |
| 00:59.32 | Dagmar | cbreak: The one that says he's burning shit |
| 00:59.53 | KarlKFI | most aren't actually smoke detectors, they sense lack of oxygen |
| 00:59.53 | cbreak | you could attempt cooking with open windows |
| 01:00.01 | Dagmar | It's probably _not_ the carbon monoxide sensor |
| 01:00.10 | cbreak | I've seen the specs of some, they detect particles in the air |
| 01:00.20 | cbreak | so if you have dust and heat, they trigger |
| 01:00.20 | KarlKFI | there's a lot of different kinds |
| 01:00.30 | Dagmar | The older, delightfully radioactive ones almost all trigger on high particle-counts |
| 01:01.18 | KarlKFI | wikipedia says " however TV shows and Movies are still FairPlay protected." but that statement isn't sourced |
| 01:01.36 | KarlKFI | and while it may be true it doesn't exclude HDCP on the HD movies |
| 01:01.51 | Dagmar | Aside from that you can't apply HDCP to a movie. |
| 01:02.14 | Dagmar | It's like applying a checksum to fingerpaints. |
| 01:02.42 | KarlKFI | ok... so find me a player that can play itunes movies without the hdcp |
| 01:02.52 | KarlKFI | since you claim it's just int eh player |
| 01:03.09 | Arrowmaster | no other player can probably play the itunes movies because of the drm |
| 01:03.15 | KarlKFI | exactly |
| 01:03.25 | Dagmar | It *is* just in the player. HDCP is only useful to protect the links between devices |
| 01:03.32 | airtonix | the apple drm and hdcp are two different things |
| 01:03.39 | Dagmar | HDCP is not usable for protecting *files* |
| 01:03.51 | cbreak | KarlKFI: it is impossible that iTunes deals with HDCP |
| 01:04.06 | KarlKFI | and you're goign to back that up how? |
| 01:04.22 | cbreak | just start to think about the performance it would require |
| 01:04.24 | Dagmar | You pretty much can't get a licence from movie studios to distribute shit digitally without signing into the HDCP cartel |
| 01:04.29 | KarlKFI | Apple says it uses HDCP. you saying they're lying? |
| 01:04.33 | cbreak | no |
| 01:04.36 | cbreak | I say you can't read |
| 01:04.38 | Dagmar | Where does Apple say that? |
| 01:04.45 | KarlKFI | http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3209 |
| 01:04.48 | cbreak | it requires HDCP support from your hardware |
| 01:04.55 | cbreak | it does NOT say that the movie is protected by it |
| 01:04.59 | cbreak | because it IS NOT |
| 01:05.00 | airtonix | meaning it won't output on anything else |
| 01:05.06 | jnwhiteh | So I've been saving up herbs.. and I'm filling a 32 slot bag with mats so I can make flasks In addition, you will need to have components that support HDCP (High-bandwidth Digital Content Protection) installed on your compute |
| 01:05.07 | cbreak | HDCP is added IN THE GRAPHICS CARD |
| 01:05.07 | Arrowmaster | which means they just check that your video card supports it |
| 01:05.09 | jnwhiteh | err.. |
| 01:05.10 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to resort to going with cbreak on this one. |
| 01:05.13 | Dagmar | Learn to fuckin' read. |
| 01:05.26 | Dagmar | That page does not say HDCP is in the files. |
| 01:05.34 | KarlKFI | i never said it did |
| 01:05.39 | jnwhiteh | So I've been saving up herbs.. and I'm filling a 32 slot bag with mats so I can make flasks when 4.0.6 drops. This means I have a bag worth 9.5k gold worth of mats. All for 40 freaking flasks. |
| 01:05.39 | KarlKFI | i said is used hdcp |
| 01:05.50 | jnwhiteh | This seems like a lot to me =/ |
| 01:05.50 | Dagmar | How does a file "use" anything then? |
| 01:05.54 | KarlKFI | are you tellign me it can require HDCP hardware without actually using it? |
| 01:05.58 | Arrowmaster | it might be possible with unofficial video card drivers to disable it |
| 01:06.05 | Dagmar | Hey hey you're starting to catch on |
| 01:06.16 | jnwhiteh | wondering if I should just sell the mats |
| 01:06.17 | cbreak | There's no technical requirement to encrypt the stuff with HDCP |
| 01:06.24 | cbreak | it's just by policy |
| 01:06.24 | Dagmar | It's Apple's agreements with the movie distributors that require them to have iTunes require HDCP from the display unit. |
| 01:06.32 | airtonix | ^ |
| 01:06.52 | airtonix | and you can't use anything else to play itunes movies |
| 01:06.56 | cbreak | it's like any other DRM scheme |
| 01:07.02 | Dagmar | Not "legally" anyway |
| 01:07.18 | cbreak | the player would fully be capable to copy the stuff without any problem |
| 01:07.23 | cbreak | but it doesn't want to |
| 01:07.32 | cbreak | it could send it unencrypted to the monitor |
| 01:07.39 | cbreak | but the studios don't want that |
| 01:07.46 | airtonix | so does that mean even if i use vlc to play movies out over my nvidia ion2 hdmi port that it gets infected with hdcp ? |
| 01:07.48 | Arrowmaster | and i dont think much effort is put into breaking the itunes drm since once they break it apple just releases a mandatory patch |
| 01:07.52 | cbreak | so the files are encrypted during transfer. |
| 01:08.04 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: vlc doesnt use hdcp |
| 01:08.07 | Dagmar | airtonix: It means you're probably breaking hte law in some obscure fashion that no one but monopolists give a shit about |
| 01:08.08 | airtonix | i know |
| 01:08.13 | airtonix | what? |
| 01:08.22 | cbreak | they get decrypted by iTunes, then decoded, sent to the graphics card (or vice versa with gpu decoding) |
| 01:08.25 | Dagmar | You know, like *any time you play a DVD with VLC* |
| 01:08.27 | cbreak | then it gets HDCP encrypted |
| 01:08.32 | cbreak | send to the screen |
| 01:08.33 | Dagmar | You're a nasty, nasty lawbreaker |
| 01:08.34 | cbreak | decrypted |
| 01:08.39 | cbreak | a bit more decoded |
| 01:08.40 | airtonix | i record some footage with my digital camera, encode it to mkv, and play it with vlc over my hdmi output to my tv |
| 01:08.41 | cbreak | and then displayed |
| 01:09.23 | Dagmar | airtonix: However, if you go rent a DVD and it's encrypted with CSS (which it almost certainly is) and you play it with VLC, you're throwing babies into an oven and setting them on bake. |
| 01:09.40 | airtonix | i know i have a surplus of blue babies |
| 01:09.44 | Dagmar | ...because VLC didn't pay anyone for the privledge of decrypting your DVD. |
| 01:10.09 | cbreak | if vlc is anything like mplayer in that respect, it just cracks the CSS on the disk |
| 01:10.10 | airtonix | last time i used a disc shaped thing to play movies was about ten years ago |
| 01:10.19 | cbreak | but at least mplayer requires the drive to be unlocked |
| 01:10.24 | Arrowmaster | i bet just putting a dvd movie in my drive is illegal since i flashed it with rpc1 firmware |
| 01:10.26 | Dagmar | cbreak: Leenked in libdvdcss |
| 01:10.29 | cbreak | so I have to start apple's dvd player to authenticate to the drive |
| 01:11.13 | Dagmar | mplayer requires what to what? |
| 01:11.23 | Dagmar | Are you talking about region encoding |
| 01:11.26 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: now they use libdvdread i think which does the same thing as libdvdcss builtin |
| 01:11.29 | cbreak | yeah |
| 01:11.32 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 01:11.34 | cbreak | well, part of it |
| 01:11.41 | Dagmar | yeah, there's another complete shit aspect of that madness |
| 01:11.41 | cbreak | it's not just the region |
| 01:11.56 | airtonix | this is like the bible in the dark ages all over again |
| 01:11.57 | Arrowmaster | flash the drive with rpc1 firmware |
| 01:12.01 | Dagmar | If that were *just* US jurisdiction, region encoding would be 100% illegal |
| 01:12.05 | cbreak | but after I boot my computer, the DVD drive is unwilling to read important sectors of DVDs |
| 01:12.10 | cbreak | until I open DVD Player |
| 01:12.18 | cbreak | after that, mplayer can read the DVD and crack the CSS |
| 01:12.20 | Dagmar | manuf's aren't allowed to say "you live over in Richville, so you pay more" |
| 01:12.31 | Dagmar | ...but that's basically what region encoding is for. |
| 01:12.43 | karl_w_w | cbreak why don't you get dvd region+css free? |
| 01:12.51 | cbreak | why bother... |
| 01:12.57 | Dagmar | cbreak: If your hardware is set to region 0, mplayer stops giving a damn, afaik |
| 01:12.57 | cbreak | I don't buy DVDs anyway |
| 01:13.08 | airtonix | hoho |
| 01:13.13 | cbreak | but I had to test how it works :) |
| 01:13.15 | karl_w_w | some dvds wont play on region 0 |
| 01:13.36 | Dagmar | How |
| 01:13.55 | karl_w_w | same way that they wont play on any other region :P |
| 01:13.55 | Dagmar | On most hardware, that simply _disables_ region checks. |
| 01:14.01 | Dagmar | They don't even involve encryption. |
| 01:14.31 | Dagmar | It's literally a number that's written to the disc that means if your DVD player isn't set to the same number because you're in the right region, the DVD player is supposed to give you the middle finger when you press play. |
| 01:14.55 | Dagmar | There's no region 0, it's a setting. |
| 01:15.07 | Dagmar | If you can shove it into your DVD player, you basically turned off those checks. |
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| 01:15.26 | Dagmar | I hadda go through that crap for some Doctor Who DVDs I imported from the UK |
| 01:15.29 | p3lim | most optical drives for a pc allow you to change the region |
| 01:15.33 | p3lim | up to 3 times afaik |
| 01:15.45 | Arrowmaster | thats what rpc1 is for |
| 01:15.56 | Dagmar | Yeah, which is twice more than you need to set the f**ker to region 0 and be done with it. ;) |
| 01:16.29 | p3lim | or as Arrowmaster said, flash the drive |
| 01:16.55 | Dagmar | Until they clamped down on it, the more your DVD player was a cheap-ass piece of crap from Wal-mart, the higher the odds are that it had a hidden menu that just let you set the region to zero. |
| 01:17.11 | Dagmar | Apex made a freaking MINT on that |
| 01:17.27 | p3lim | some preconfigured computers have two drives, set each to different regions if you dont wanna flash it |
| 01:17.28 | karl_w_w | http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html there you go Dagmar |
| 01:17.39 | p3lim | optical drives these days are cheap anyways |
| 01:17.45 | p3lim | anyways, bedtime |
| 01:17.47 | Arrowmaster | i think some software doesnt like region0 and wont play if your drive is set to it, which is why rpc1 is better |
| 01:18.07 | cbreak | but really, why waste time with all that hassle |
| 01:18.18 | cbreak | it's much more comfortable to just download the stuff |
| 01:18.18 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah but who the hell uses that software? ;) |
| 01:18.20 | cbreak | cheaper too |
| 01:18.30 | Dagmar | Like anyone actually *uses* the copy of PowerDVD that came with their drive |
| 01:18.35 | cbreak | I see no advantage at all in buying movies :/ |
| 01:18.48 | Dagmar | cbreak: I use RedBox. |
| 01:19.03 | Dagmar | It'sa dollar. If I forget to return it, it's another dollar. |
| 01:19.17 | karl_w_w | $2 wasted |
| 01:19.26 | Dagmar | If I spaz out and go a month, they charge me a grand-total of $25 and call it a fair deal. |
| 01:19.49 | cbreak | You could wait until the stuff is on tv and get it for free |
| 01:19.52 | cbreak | or just download it |
| 01:19.54 | Dagmar | If you do that at Blockbuster, you find out that *somehow* the scratched up disc in your hand retails for $20 more than even Suncoast is asking for it. |
| 01:20.28 | Nechckn | between hulu and vuduu and Netflix, does anyone still get actual discs? |
| 01:20.35 | karl_w_w | it's not like there's been much worth watching in the last decade anyway |
| 01:20.40 | Dagmar | Of course, that's probably got a lot to do with why Blockbuster is folding everywhere you look |
| 01:20.55 | Arrowmaster | Nechckn: i dont use any of those |
| 01:21.08 | Dagmar | Nechckn: I do. At RedBox, but then that's mainly because it's right outside the Walgreen's I like to stop at on my way home |
| 01:21.13 | Arrowmaster | and i got some dvds for christmas |
| 01:21.19 | Arrowmaster | A-Team box set! |
| 01:21.27 | KarlKFI | ^^ |
| 01:21.34 | KarlKFI | got that right here |
| 01:22.18 | Nechckn | Well, I can see getting a gift, maybe... but otherwise, downloads work pretty dandy - at least with those, and it works out to pennies a clip, between the freebies. |
| 01:23.12 | cbreak | when I want to make a gift, I get the book version :) |
| 01:23.16 | Nechckn | Not talking about release day or anything- but there are very few I care to see on day one that I would not go out and see in an actual theater. Otherwise, waiting a couple weeks is alot easier. |
| 01:23.19 | Arrowmaster | id rather not stream, and i dont want to pay for DRMd files |
| 01:24.05 | Dagmar | I *won't* pay for DRMd files. |
| 01:24.12 | KarlKFI | people that buy content have money to do so. If you dont have money you turn to other sources. When the money isn't the issue it's all about convenience. |
| 01:24.38 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: yeah especially considering the prices i see to 'own' them instead of rent or stream |
| 01:24.41 | Dagmar | It's not like I've got some intention of ever making copies of my discs, but I know that over time, DRM *renders your stuff unviewable* |
| 01:25.06 | Nechckn | Eh... to each their own, I suppose. If you do not have the cash, then you wait until it is "on" for free or with commercials. |
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| 01:25.20 | karl_w_w | torrent it, and if you feel bad about it pay for the DRM version and bin it straight off |
| 01:25.30 | Dagmar | Generally I wait for something to come on TV if I don't care that much about it. |
| 01:25.31 | Nechckn | When I was in school and the like, if you did not have the money for X, you went without and did other stuff... |
| 01:25.42 | Dagmar | If I care about it after than, I"m usually trawling eBay for it at hte very least |
| 01:25.48 | KarlKFI | i have no problem paying for something i want to see. Because i can. and because i like to be paid for my work too. |
| 01:26.14 | Dagmar | Stuff like Going Postal tho... Pfft. |
| 01:26.25 | karl_w_w | come again? |
| 01:26.31 | cbreak | I don't want to pay assholes that think they have to make my life harder just to protect their income |
| 01:26.32 | Dagmar | Not even a chance of local copies obtainable. Torrent first, order while torrent is downloading. |
| 01:26.36 | KarlKFI | granted, that doesn't mean i want to pay $40 markup for a bluray |
| 01:26.47 | karl_w_w | oh ok |
| 01:26.56 | karl_w_w | i thought u were going to speak against going postal! |
| 01:26.56 | KarlKFI | when i can get it for $20 or $10 |
| 01:27.05 | Dagmar | karl_w_w: Sky1 (run by limeys) apparently did a 2-part movie conversion of Terry Pratchett's 'Going Postal' book. |
| 01:27.16 | karl_w_w | yeah |
| 01:27.20 | karl_w_w | it was good |
| 01:27.45 | KarlKFI | i don't have a problem with streaming, as long as the quality is good enough |
| 01:27.52 | karl_w_w | it was shown in aus on christmas eve/day |
| 01:28.07 | Dagmar | Being that I didn't hear Pratchett fans saying it was an abomination, I figured it was worth the money |
| 01:28.32 | Dagmar | No freakin' idea what region it'll be in, but I'll deal with that when it gets here |
| 01:28.41 | karl_w_w | on the official site u can see the actors and stuff talking about it |
| 01:29.07 | Dagmar | I looooved the thrown-in scene between Adorabelle and the horse |
| 01:29.27 | Dagmar | The latter half of that gag was some awesome deadpan |
| 01:29.40 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 01:29.54 | Dagmar | "You know, I can get off a horse." |
| 01:30.19 | Wobin | I liked Hogfather |
| 01:30.26 | Dagmar | I own that, too. :) |
| 01:30.41 | karl_w_w | hogfather wasnt as good i dont think |
| 01:30.55 | karl_w_w | but then i didnt particularly like the book compared to the other books |
| 01:30.58 | Dagmar | It was cut down more than usual |
| 01:31.25 | Wobin | I don't actually know what we're talking about |
| 01:31.35 | karl_w_w | read some books then :P |
| 01:32.04 | Dagmar | heh. "some" |
| 01:32.18 | Wobin | no, in general, not specifics =P |
| 01:32.36 | Nechckn | Wobin Dagmar was just recounting how much fun his bris was. |
| 01:32.41 | Wobin | I got the idea you were talking about the Pratchett telemovies, but in passing =P |
| 01:32.50 | Dagmar | We were. |
| 01:32.52 | Nechckn | "[20:31] <Dagmar> It was cut down more than usual" |
| 01:33.05 | Nechckn | You miss out on all of the fun |
| 01:33.15 | Wobin | or at least half of it |
| 01:33.23 | Nechckn | ding! |
| 01:33.34 | Dagmar | It's very simple. There's a degree to which books turned into movies tend to have stuff dropped. Hogfather was fairly long and complex and had a number of things dropped |
| 01:33.38 | karl_w_w | level 2, grats Nechckn :P |
| 01:34.18 | Nechckn | bows |
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| 01:37.17 | karl_w_w | i hope they keep making the movie conversions |
| 01:37.36 | karl_w_w | so many of them could be done amazingly well |
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| 01:38.39 | Dagmar | Some of them would probably not be suitable for the childrens tho |
| 01:38.55 | Dagmar | You'd probably have to keep a close eye on anything with Nanny Ogg in it, for example |
| 01:39.00 | karl_w_w | fuck the kids :P |
| 01:39.16 | karl_w_w | night watch would be a good one |
| 01:39.46 | Corrodias2 | you don't want to keep too close an eye anywhere near Nanny Ogg |
| 01:39.52 | karl_w_w | ^ |
| 01:40.45 | karl_w_w | the trouble i have is i dont remember which title goes with which book half the time |
| 01:41.08 | Arrowmaster | omg so funny yet so wrong http://kotaku.com/5733689/the-secret-terrifying-lives-of-cosplayers |
| 01:41.18 | karl_w_w | this poses an extra problem in that there are a few i havent read, so its hard to identify which i havent read :P |
| 01:42.09 | KarlKFI | Who wants to update my localizations :) http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/chatbar/localization/ |
| 01:43.14 | KarlKFI | think i should just take the spanish and import it as latin american spanish to start it off? |
| 01:43.38 | Wobin | http://www.timminchin.com/2011/01/14/missed-tim-on-conan-fear-not/ |
| 01:43.43 | Wobin | <3 Tim |
| 01:44.21 | karl_w_w | Arrowmaster: why do wow players get flak when these people exists? |
| 01:44.29 | karl_w_w | exist* |
| 01:44.41 | Arrowmaster | how far have you gotten into the first one? |
| 01:45.37 | karl_w_w | 2 minutes xD |
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| 01:47.08 | Primer | Anyone know how to remove an item from an Atlasloot wishlist? Reading the docs say it's the same key combo (alt-click) as adding, but when I do that I only see "ItemSoAndSo is already in the wishlist" |
| 01:47.47 | mckenziemc | are you alt-clicking the item in the normal loot tables, or in the wishlist |
| 01:47.57 | Primer | In the wishlist itself |
| 01:48.05 | mckenziemc | hmm idk then |
| 01:48.23 | karl_w_w | sounds like a bug |
| 01:53.02 | tem | oh god that was delicious |
| 01:53.06 | tem | best 6 dollars I've ever spent |
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| 02:12.37 | Jamash | fried babies? |
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| 02:14.20 | karl_w_w | babies only cost $4 |
| 02:14.53 | Jamash | really? where? |
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| 02:18.45 | karl_w_w | the reject shop |
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| 02:53.51 | Dagmar | Yeah, those must be the dispoable kinda that die in a week like those little turtles do |
| 02:54.10 | Dagmar | One of my coworkers just bought one from Ethopia and it cost a shitload more than $4 |
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| 03:26.15 | Ackis | was there an addon for bigwigs that would do the auto-respond feature for the % of the boss? |
| 03:37.29 | Arrowmaster | no, it was completely independent from bigwigs |
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| 03:41.05 | clever | haha, thats a new phishing email |
| 03:41.16 | clever | Deathwing the Destroyer returns to Azeroth. There is a serious saturation point in the World of Warcraft ID(s) and it is very difficult for players to creat a role. |
| 03:41.46 | clever | the lack of spelling is the first thing that gave it away |
| 03:44.08 | Funkeh` | viewing the message source in hotmail and seeing from aklsjea chinese.ip.address.here generally does a better job of giving it away |
| 03:44.49 | Funkeh` | then again i rarely get them thanks to the hotmail phishing filters, and when I do, report button > phishing scam |
| 03:45.14 | clever | my email client cant handle mime or html |
| 03:45.21 | clever | so it barfs the source up always:P |
| 03:46.01 | Funkeh` | apparently some of them are base64, I guess to try avoid filters |
| 03:46.07 | clever | its the usual us.battle.net.hackers.are.us.com :P |
| 03:46.18 | Funkeh` | mm :/ |
| 03:46.18 | clever | nope, its the email client they use |
| 03:46.35 | clever | it sends both a plaintext and an html encoded version |
| 03:46.37 | clever | the plaintext says to go to https://us.battle.net/account.... |
| 03:46.56 | clever | because once you strip html out of <a href="us.battle.net.hackers.are.us.com">https://us.battle.net/account.... |
| 03:47.00 | clever | you get the real url |
| 03:47.19 | clever | so if you have a client that supports MIME properly and displays the plain-text, it will lead you to the real site! |
| 03:48.04 | clever | <META name=GENERATOR content="MSHTML 8.00.6001.18999"></HEAD> |
| 03:49.34 | clever | X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 |
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| 03:49.57 | bluspacecow | whats the auth spf field look like |
| 03:50.10 | airtonix | fkn nubs |
| 03:50.13 | clever | Funkeh`: from the SMTP headers, it looks like he connected directly to my smtp box |
| 03:50.43 | clever | there is only a single Received: and the helo= matches the domain for Return-path: |
| 03:51.39 | clever | X-UID: 18333 |
| 03:51.44 | clever | and i have his uid on that box:P |
| 03:52.19 | Dagmar | Good luck having him killed |
| 03:52.24 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: what was it called? |
| 03:52.45 | clever | Dagmar: he probly already moved to another box, this email is from dec 6th |
| 03:55.10 | clever | Dagmar: yep, his email on the 7th is from a new uid on a new ip |
| 03:55.14 | clever | X-UID: 18334 |
| 03:55.35 | clever | is this guy buying a new virtual host every day? |
| 03:55.54 | clever | and on the 8th, X-UID: 18336 |
| 03:56.07 | Dagmar | You realize those X- headers don't mean shit, right? |
| 03:56.22 | clever | yeah, he could provide them himself |
| 03:57.02 | clever | i'm assuming the SMTP software on the box he is renting is forcibly adding them for tracking reasons |
| 03:57.23 | Dagmar | s/forcibly adding them/making them up to look semi-legit/ |
| 03:57.31 | Dagmar | This is a spammer you're talking about, right? |
| 03:57.36 | clever | yeah |
| 03:57.45 | Dagmar | The datacenter he's using probably knows exactly what he's doing. |
| 03:57.52 | Dagmar | It's probably best if you just burn the whole place down. |
| 03:58.00 | clever | its from a new IP each day |
| 03:58.05 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 03:58.14 | Dagmar | Blocks of IPs are cheap |
| 03:58.23 | clever | entirely different ip block sometimes |
| 03:58.42 | clever | 218.188.15.135 123.159.232.157 |
| 03:58.51 | Dagmar | You know, one of the things I was doing during the dot-com boom was basically trying to start a war between China and South Korea |
| 03:59.03 | airtonix | ok this is good |
| 03:59.03 | Cide | why am I not surprised |
| 03:59.07 | clever | odd, the UID is in seq with the last email, but the content is formated completely different |
| 03:59.13 | Dagmar | ...because multiple data-centers were *absolutely* selling spam hosting services. |
| 03:59.37 | Dagmar | Like, these guys literally would outright say how many IP addresses they had that were considered "clean" for RBL evasion |
| 03:59.49 | clever | X-UID: 18338 sent a multi-part MIME msg from 218.188.15.135 |
| 03:59.55 | kd3 | hm |
| 03:59.57 | Dagmar | So I would break into one host, then use it to break into the other host in the other geographic region and _erase it_ |
| 04:00.05 | Dagmar | The next day, I would rinse and repeat the other way around. |
| 04:00.07 | clever | then X-UID: 18339 sent a plaintext email with no mime at all from 123.159.232.157 |
| 04:00.16 | kd3 | tabs open his spambox and looks at phishing headers |
| 04:00.22 | Dagmar | I was rather hoping to get both companies so angry they'd escalate and take each other out. |
| 04:00.35 | clever | Dagmar: lol:) |
| 04:00.49 | airtonix | but it ends up they worked you out |
| 04:00.57 | Dagmar | Cuz remember. China is buddies with NORTH Korea, not South Korea |
| 04:01.22 | Dagmar | airtonix: Acually I think they jus weren't smart enough to figure things out |
| 04:01.29 | airtonix | no? |
| 04:01.35 | airtonix | ysospam? |
| 04:01.50 | Dagmar | Keep in mind that at the time Alzza Linux was all the rage there |
| 04:02.07 | Dagmar | They were based on Redhat... a release of Redhat almost fully a year and a half old |
| 04:02.29 | Dagmar | There was no keeping someone who had recent tools out of those |
| 04:02.34 | clever | that reminds me, for 2 or 3 years, i ran redhat9 for my internet facing server |
| 04:02.37 | clever | in the last 2000's |
| 04:02.46 | clever | 2004-2007 i think |
| 04:03.07 | Dagmar | One of the more glaring issues was that since they were using unicode logins and *ASCII PASSWORD HANDLING* their passwords were effectively about four characters long. |
| 04:03.09 | kd3 | huh; looks like the phishing emails I'm getting are via X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 13, 102, 15 [cn] |
| 04:04.01 | clever | mine suddenly switch style (headers and content) but the X-UID: is right after the last one |
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| 04:04.47 | clever | and now its gone back to base64 encoded html |
| 04:05.07 | Dagmar | More reasons to discard all HTML email at the gateway |
| 04:05.35 | clever | the true blizzard emails arent even base64 encoded |
| 04:06.21 | clever | and this never happened before, it only started after i went to a site to sign up for a cata beta key |
| 04:06.29 | Dagmar | *facepalm* |
| 04:06.35 | clever | which was linked from a major blog |
| 04:06.58 | Primer | I get phishing emails every day, several. Most end up in Spam, but some don't. You're making this sound like news |
| 04:07.05 | clever | i wasnt sure if the key would be tied to the email or not, so i gave the real email |
| 04:07.10 | clever | everything else was different |
| 04:07.29 | Dagmar | Free candy. |
| 04:07.35 | Dagmar | Maybe this time it'll be different. |
| 04:07.38 | Dagmar | Doh! |
| 04:07.39 | clever | Primer: i used to get 0, until i tried to sign up for a beta key |
| 04:07.52 | Primer | Once I wrote script to concatenate 2 sets of 2 random dictionary words, one for username, another for password, and fed one of these sites about a million combinations |
| 04:08.28 | clever | that reminds me, a friend was hit with one of those ssh 'viruses' before |
| 04:08.37 | Primer | eh? |
| 04:08.41 | clever | it put a script into his /dev/shm/ and then tried mass-connecting to other ssh servers |
| 04:08.49 | clever | part of the script was a name/pw list |
| 04:09.25 | clever | since that name/pw list works, i could then use the list against the origin (sshd logs) and follow the virus all the way back to its source:P |
| 04:09.30 | Primer | oh, his box got owned and someone used it as a zombie |
| 04:09.32 | Primer | that's nothing new |
| 04:09.38 | clever | yep |
| 04:09.47 | clever | but the ip of the last zombie would be in the log |
| 04:09.59 | clever | and the pw list would work on that zombie |
| 04:10.22 | clever | so i could re-infect the zombies with AV in no time:P |
| 04:10.34 | Primer | this is why you don't allow password based SSH access. Only public key |
| 04:10.50 | Dagmar | Actually, you *beat your users* |
| 04:10.59 | clever | this is why port 22 is blocked until you give a secret knock |
| 04:11.07 | Dagmar | MAke them use decent passwords, and sick JtR on them to be certain |
| 04:11.20 | Primer | doesn't prevent key loggers |
| 04:11.20 | Dagmar | Those ssh worms only spread through *shit* passwords |
| 04:11.39 | Dagmar | I was trapping them for about a year. |
| 04:11.40 | clever | with port 22 completely blocked, i dont have to worry about 10k bad password msgs in my log |
| 04:11.49 | Dagmar | Always the same shit, often just slightly upgraded variants. |
| 04:11.59 | Primer | If someone keylogged you typing the passphrase to your ssh key, they'd still need your ssh key |
| 04:12.00 | airtonix | what retards expose sshd via 22 on wan ? |
| 04:12.13 | Dagmar | airtonix: People with jobs. ;) |
| 04:12.14 | Primer | <-- does |
| 04:12.18 | clever | ive sometimes had a friend install ssh and create a user for me, so i could ssh in and fix his stuff |
| 04:12.26 | clever | 60% of the time, my password was set to clever |
| 04:12.31 | Dagmar | If you want to explain to the entire office that you're... |
| 04:12.32 | airtonix | point is |
| 04:12.35 | airtonix | don't use 22 |
| 04:12.35 | Dagmar | *faints* |
| 04:12.36 | clever | and i had him give me sudo perms:P |
| 04:12.48 | clever | so anybody could have logged in as clever/clever and then sudo rm -rf / |
| 04:12.50 | Dagmar | Asking the whole office to start using non-standard ports for everything doesn't really work |
| 04:12.57 | airtonix | too bad |
| 04:12.57 | Primer | I have my firewall set to add a 5 minute drop rule for any 3 SYNs in a 30 second period |
| 04:13.16 | Primer | sucks if you use scp though |
| 04:13.34 | Dagmar | clever: Stuff like that where the login and password are the same are almost _invariably_ tried in those brute force attacks on ssh |
| 04:13.52 | Dagmar | Primer: Im tarpitting like that here and I' mnot having any problems with it |
| 04:13.58 | clever | Dagmar: the first thing i always do is change the pw after logging in |
| 04:14.09 | clever | so its not the one i was just sent over irc, in clear-text |
| 04:14.19 | Dagmar | Oh okay |
| 04:14.37 | Primer | It's not unreasonable to disallow password auth in ssh nowadays anyhow |
| 04:14.38 | clever | i just have to wonder what his own password must be |
| 04:15.09 | clever | had fun one day, the guy had gone AFK while i had root |
| 04:15.22 | clever | i loaded vnc up to finish fixing it, and the screensaver had locked things |
| 04:15.34 | clever | 5 seconds later, i used root to killall xscreensaver :P |
| 04:17.05 | Arrowmaster | but doing that makes it completely stop working until restarted, you could have just told it to disable |
| 04:17.35 | clever | not sure how to do that |
| 04:24.25 | kd3 | wonders if there's a better way to list archaeology counts |
| 04:24.38 | kd3 | as compared to #2 on http://www.wowpedia.org/Archaeology#Archaeology_macros |
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| 04:29.09 | mckenziemc | Fisker needs to wake up and make me a sandwich |
| 04:29.13 | mckenziemc | or Torhal could do it |
| 04:29.42 | Ackis | Torhal can suck my dick! :D |
| 04:30.04 | karl_w_w | has 2 cheese and salami sandwiches |
| 04:30.22 | mckenziemc | ewwwwwwwwww salami |
| 04:30.43 | karl_w_w | problem? |
| 04:31.04 | Torhal | stabs Ackis with a Fisker. |
| 04:32.09 | karl_w_w | Ackis Torhal with a sandwich |
| 04:32.34 | mckenziemc | stabs Torhal with a basketball |
| 04:33.05 | Torhal | beats mckenziemc with a ckothespin. |
| 04:33.13 | Torhal | s/ck/cl/ |
| 04:34.00 | mckenziemc | ): |
| 04:34.32 | karl_w_w | pummels Torhal with a meatspin |
| 04:34.59 | Torhal | stir-fries karl_w_w in yak vomit. |
| 04:38.22 | airtonix | yak vomit is quite nice actually |
| 04:38.24 | mckenziemc | shoves an interrobang down Torhal's throat |
| 04:41.50 | karl_w_w | Why?! |
| 04:42.58 | mckenziemc | ~why |
| 04:42.58 | purl | Because! |
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| 04:58.36 | Scotepi | im trying to do a addon for inspecting people, however im having horable luck with GetInventoryItemLink('target'), i only get 4-6 items on first scan, even running the function twice in a row doesnt work |
| 04:58.56 | Scotepi | I'm even using INSPECT_READY and its not ready |
| 05:06.31 | Scotepi | has anyone found a reliable way around inspecting someone? I noticed the GS can take 5-10sec to fully inspect someone |
| 05:07.39 | airtonix | are you trying to make another gearscore ? |
| 05:07.49 | airtonix | gets his pitchfork out |
| 05:08.01 | kd3 | looking for suggestions: http://www.wowpedia.org/Archaeology#Solve_count_and_summary |
| 05:08.04 | Scotepi | no, just for printing peoples ilevel |
| 05:08.11 | kd3 | at 233 characters atm |
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| 05:19.52 | Scotepi | wow, i just rewrote my whole addon as a macro >< |
| 05:21.44 | kd3 | gack; patch notes for ptr just got updated again |
| 05:24.25 | sylvanaar | i never noticed that the attribute "urgency" wasn't in the UI schema |
| 05:24.58 | sylvanaar | ~framexml |
| 05:24.59 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 05:35.06 | Adys | http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/2009/01/27/the-system-139/ |
| 05:36.24 | kd3 | today's ptr4.0.6 update: http://www.wowpedia.org/index.php?title=Patch_4.0.6&diff=2597117&oldid=2595120 |
| 05:37.35 | Adys | *Once a guild hits level 23, the daily cap on experience gained is removed. |
| 05:37.36 | Adys | oO |
| 05:51.38 | Scotepi | where do i look for information about colored text in print? I have a rgb value i want to use |
| 05:52.07 | airtonix | ash cide |
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| 05:53.50 | Adys | Scotepi: |crrggbbaaYour Text Here|r |
| 05:54.13 | Scotepi | thanks |
| 05:54.30 | Scotepi | is the |c just a start charicter and |r is a end? |
| 05:54.34 | mckenziemc | google 'wowpedia ui escape codes' |
| 05:54.36 | Adys | yes |
| 05:54.57 | airtonix | ~wiki mckenziemc |
| 05:55.09 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 05:55.26 | airtonix | mckenziemc, can you google something for me? |
| 05:55.55 | |Jelly| | cuddles Cairenn while she's AFK. Oh yeah. |
| 05:56.08 | Scotepi | yeah for google math "(0.8 * 255) in hex" |
| 05:56.43 | airtonix | i'm not interested in your pin number |
| 05:58.14 | Adys | http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/2009/02/09/the-system-148/ |
| 06:01.20 | Scotepi | does that not work in print? |
| 06:02.00 | Scotepi | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:04.29 | Scotepi | same with /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("|cFFFF0000This is red text |rthis is normal color"); |
| 06:07.59 | mckenziemc | when you're doing it ingame, you have to do \124 |
| 06:08.12 | mckenziemc | because the game's automatically turning | into || |
| 06:08.20 | Scotepi | yeah, found that |
| 06:08.40 | Scotepi | thanks |
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| 06:52.05 | KarlKFI | these frequent in game cut scenes need voice acting |
| 06:53.23 | Corrodias2 | and music from Super Mario RPG. |
| 06:55.00 | KarlKFI | yes and some music |
| 06:55.12 | Corrodias2 | specifically that music would be the best. |
| 06:55.23 | Corrodias2 | it is a solid fit with the WoW aesthetic. |
| 06:58.43 | KarlKFI | easily done... http://www.supermariobrothers.org/mario-music.html |
| 07:01.04 | Ycarene | Is it strange that I put together an outfit for my character for when she's in town? |
| 07:01.25 | Corrodias2 | i don't think so, dressing up characters is pretty common |
| 07:01.35 | Corrodias2 | it'd be weird if you didn't have an addon to change outfits for you, i'll say that. |
| 07:01.41 | Corrodias2 | and manually did it every time. weird indeed. |
| 07:01.51 | Ycarene | I just use the built-in one. |
| 07:02.06 | Corrodias2 | i'm not familiar with that, but i'll take your word for it. |
| 07:02.20 | Ycarene | Icon on the upper right of the character screen |
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| 07:02.42 | Ycarene | I think you have to enable it in the interface options |
| 07:02.43 | Corrodias2 | does it automatically switch for you when entering/exiting towns, or do you do it manually? |
| 07:03.04 | Corrodias2 | i haven't played in years, so i'm a little behind. heck, that may have existed at the time i played and i just forgot. |
| 07:03.06 | KarlKFI | its an equipment manager, but no it doesn't auto switch |
| 07:03.16 | Ycarene | It doesn't switch automatically, but it lets you assign an icon for each set so it's one click. |
| 07:06.14 | Ycarene | I wouldn't want to do it automatically anyway, especially if I have a lot of crap in my bags. |
| 07:06.30 | Corrodias2 | i could see that causing mixups |
| 07:06.58 | Corrodias2 | or, at least, incomplete wardrobe changes |
| 07:16.12 | Ycarene | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/destromath/pella/simple |
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| 07:23.52 | Corrodias2 | oh my, what's all this new web stuff |
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| 07:27.21 | Corrodias2 | how would you look up other people on this thing? |
| 07:27.26 | airtonix | courtesy of al gore |
| 07:28.20 | Corrodias2 | aha |
| 07:28.54 | Corrodias2 | yep, my dudes have been inactive way too long. |
| 07:29.26 | Corrodias2 | my two primary characters' names are still unique. take that, conformists! |
| 07:29.45 | airtonix | i see |
| 07:29.58 | Corrodias2 | i believe that means i win. |
| 07:30.15 | Ycarene | That's my characters "About Town" outfit. |
| 07:32.39 | Corrodias2 | my druid had to have 3 or 4 different sets of gear. always wanting for bag space. |
| 07:34.25 | Ycarene | Well, the only other set of gear is my Prot set and my show set. I have two specs and I don't know what way to go. |
| 07:34.54 | airtonix | i very much dislike computer generated anime |
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| 07:37.08 | Corrodias2 | had my tanking, physical dps, and healing sets that i had to keep up to date, and the magic dps set just for fun / just in case |
| 07:37.14 | KarlKFI | computer animated you mean? |
| 07:37.25 | airtonix | no |
| 07:37.35 | airtonix | well |
| 07:37.42 | KarlKFI | is there some magical algorithm that generates cartoons now? |
| 07:37.59 | airtonix | the type that's made with 3d models etc that ends up being rendered cell shade style |
| 07:38.08 | Ycarene | You can pretty much use the same equipment for tanking and physical dps now though right? |
| 07:38.29 | Corrodias2 | i sure have no idea. it was not that way in BC, at least. |
| 07:38.38 | KarlKFI | not as plate |
| 07:38.45 | KarlKFI | maybe as druid |
| 07:38.57 | airtonix | Ycarene, that would make a mockery of tanks if it were the case |
| 07:39.04 | Corrodias2 | one has more armor, the other has more damage-related things |
| 07:39.14 | KarlKFI | uh no |
| 07:39.29 | Corrodias2 | well, they DID. and stamina, too, on the former |
| 07:39.49 | Ycarene | Well, defense is pretty much gone and the DPS sets usually have so much agility that it already pumps your dodge. |
| 07:39.52 | airtonix | "You mean i just went through pug-ninja-hell to have some trigger happy retribution paladin tank my raid boss?" |
| 07:39.54 | KarlKFI | mitigation is the key word |
| 07:40.16 | Ycarene | Well, yeah |
| 07:40.20 | Corrodias2 | i don't suppose armor has anything to do with damage mitigation? |
| 07:40.26 | airtonix | "Mind if i roll need on this awesome shield for my offset says the dps melee to the undergeared tank" |
| 07:40.52 | Ycarene | Oooh, I've lost out on a lot of gear that way. |
| 07:41.13 | Corrodias2 | my advice, guilds that operate that way are not for me |
| 07:41.30 | airtonix | "Loool guys look I'm a tank now!!oneonepony" |
| 07:41.31 | Corrodias2 | ... i guess no guilds are for me if i don't play, really... |
| 07:41.42 | Ycarene | I remember in a gruuls lair run, where I lost the DST on my rogue to a ret pally. |
| 07:42.04 | airtonix | thats ok |
| 07:42.20 | airtonix | i am talking more about the prep before that during pug heroic dungeon runs |
| 07:47.49 | Archarodim | anyone got a good dog barking sound? it's for SheepDog: http://www.wowace.com/addons/sheepdog/ |
| 07:48.34 | Corrodias2 | none that aren't buried under a mile of copyrights |
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| 07:55.34 | Shirik | I love how predictable people are |
| 07:55.43 | Shirik | I was trying to reset a market on gems, saw someone posting a few up |
| 07:55.56 | Shirik | so I bought them out at the 50g he was putting them up at, resold them at a rediculous price (190g) |
| 07:56.01 | Shirik | He undercuts me by 1s |
| 07:56.08 | Shirik | So easy to influence prices |
| 07:56.19 | amro | you scare me shirik |
| 07:56.23 | amro | you actually bother with wow's market |
| 07:56.26 | Shirik | dude |
| 07:56.28 | Shirik | it's so easy |
| 07:56.31 | amro | exactly |
| 07:56.36 | amro | there's almost no point |
| 07:56.40 | amro | except to make money and all that. |
| 07:56.47 | Shirik | NOW THE MARKETS ARE FREE SO MUCH MONEY FOR ME |
| 07:56.51 | Shirik | TELL ME WHY SHOULD I CARE FOR PEACE AND LOVE |
| 07:57.58 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8#t=4m55s |
| 08:02.45 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:02.47 | Fisker | I'M VERY SICK |
| 08:06.53 | karl_w_w | I like people who think that >100% is categorically impossible |
| 08:08.20 | Shirik | Fisker, we know |
| 08:09.02 | Fisker | help me Shirik |
| 08:10.00 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1549435674 <-people are funny |
| 08:11.34 | amro | some people think there's a GM at blizzard constantly scanning names |
| 08:13.48 | Shirik | long live lenin |
| 08:13.52 | Shirik | kill the czar |
| 08:13.57 | Shirik | we salute the sickle and star |
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| 08:18.28 | Ackis | I've done 199 arch digs :( |
| 08:22.07 | karl_w_w | "I don't believe Uterus is violating any part of the naming ToS, and if I don't get a GM reply here I will most certainly be taking this up with them on the phone." what a tard |
| 08:23.36 | Fisker | i'm sick Ackis |
| 08:23.59 | Fisker | i can see it now karl_w_w |
| 08:24.06 | Fisker | "BUT I WANT MY NAME UTERUS BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!" |
| 08:24.16 | Fisker | Background: "Watch your mouth young boy" |
| 08:24.17 | Fisker | :3 |
| 08:24.45 | Adys | http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/2009/03/05/the-system-166/ |
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| 08:25.26 | Adys | Shirik |
| 08:25.27 | Ackis | Just had a drunk knock on our door... he threw a bottle of booze on our roof and wanted it back. |
| 08:25.31 | Adys | I am the man who arranges the blocks |
| 08:25.36 | Adys | what do you have to say to that? |
| 08:27.04 | karl_w_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:27.04 | karl_w_w | fml |
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| 08:29.06 | amro | Ackis: well? |
| 08:29.16 | Shirik | epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TshFWSsrn8 |
| 08:29.36 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:29.40 | Shirik | Ackis: arrange them so he can't get the booze back |
| 08:33.24 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: HOLY SHIT |
| 08:34.07 | Fisker | can i disagree? |
| 08:34.38 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Very much in agreement |
| 08:37.55 | Arrowmaster | i was wondering when he was going to blow the tires |
| 08:40.39 | karl_w_w | i wonder how many takes it took |
| 08:42.11 | Fisker | i have to reboot Shirik |
| 08:42.12 | Fisker | help me |
| 08:42.22 | Ackis | Shirik: wowowowowo |
| 08:44.05 | Ackis | hey there's a 26 slot bag coming out rihgt? |
| 08:46.53 | airtonix | reboots Fisker |
| 08:53.45 | airtonix | http://www.webupd8.org/2010/07/update-youtube-dl-to-get-it-working.html |
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| 09:00.41 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 09:00.47 | Fisker | apparently i'm the best damn oc'er in the world? |
| 09:00.48 | Shirik | so Fisker |
| 09:00.49 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/VuvSI.png |
| 09:00.51 | Shirik | disagree |
| 09:01.14 | Fisker | facts can't be disagreed with |
| 09:01.28 | Shirik | disagree |
| 09:01.46 | Fisker | you win this round |
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| 09:05.54 | Fisker | ok this site sucks Shirik |
| 09:06.05 | Fisker | i was registering and put in a password |
| 09:06.23 | Fisker | after i've put in a password and used the register button it came up with "Not empty" |
| 09:06.31 | Fisker | yes, the password field is not empty, is this a problem? |
| 09:07.04 | Fisker | also wtf |
| 09:07.07 | Fisker | To protect your password from been vandalized, please mix it with alphabets and numerals |
| 09:07.09 | Fisker | WAT? |
| 09:10.17 | karl_w_w | how about a greek alphabet and morse code? those are both alphabets |
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| 09:27.47 | airtonix | Fisker, i like your langrage |
| 09:29.25 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 09:29.29 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 09:30.09 | airtonix | so no income ? |
| 09:30.37 | Fisker | why do you ask? |
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| 09:37.24 | amro | that's what happens when you don't use protection Fisker |
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| 09:38.22 | amro | or should I say, Fisker is what happens when you don't use protection |
| 09:40.11 | Fisker | moo: os: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional - Service Pack 1 (6.1.7601) |
| 09:40.16 | Fisker | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (x64) at 5801MHz (23% Load) |
| 09:40.19 | Fisker | wroooooooooooooooom |
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| 09:54.42 | Shirik | (04:50:59)  -⺠Join: ebadur (6d9be59e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.155.229.158) |
| 09:54.42 | Shirik | (04:51:27) (ebadur) hi can you me please |
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| 10:00.12 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 10:00.15 | Shirik | I'll moo you |
| 10:00.21 | amro | shirik! |
| 10:00.23 | amro | can you me please? |
| 10:00.26 | Shirik | no |
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| 10:00.28 | Shirik | Fisker can though |
| 10:00.30 | amro | :( |
| 10:02.34 | Shirik | you can me if you want amro |
| 10:02.47 | amro | Shirik |
| 10:02.51 | Shirik | :D |
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| 10:07.01 | Fisker | amro |
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| 10:13.04 | Fisker | slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:13.22 | Kalroth | yo mtv rap |
| 10:13.24 | Fisker | moo: cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz (x64) at 5801MHz (83% Load) |
| 10:13.39 | Kalroth | 5.8 alligevel |
| 10:13.52 | Fisker | og det er ikke fake eller en bug på nogen måde |
| 10:13.53 | Kalroth | air cooling still? |
| 10:15.20 | amro | speaking in fisker isn't allowed here |
| 10:15.25 | amro | ~bonk Fisker |
| 10:15.25 | purl | ACTION bonks amro on behalf of Fisker |
| 10:15.32 | Kalroth | :D |
| 10:15.41 | amro | ~commandinfo bonk |
| 10:15.46 | amro | ~cmdinfo bonk |
| 10:15.46 | purl | command usage includes 26 of Factoid Commands, 10 of Weather, 7 of Maths, 7 of Factoid Info, 7 of Help, 6 of Uptime, 5 of Exchange, 2 of wikipedia, 1 of dns, 1 of Dict and 1 of BZFlag. |
| 10:15.52 | amro | bah |
| 10:15.54 | amro | who broke bonk? |
| 10:15.58 | amro | ~factinfo bonk |
| 10:15.58 | purl | bonk -- last modified at Thu Aug 21 13:36:56 2008 by ndim!i=hun@moooo.n-dimensional.de; it has been requested 6 times, last by The_Randomness at Sat Jan 1 19:06:16 2011. |
| 10:16.39 | Arrowmaster | ~factinfo bonk (.*?) |
| 10:16.39 | purl | Arrowmaster: there's no such factoid as bonk (.*?) |
| 10:16.55 | amro | it's not a factoid Arrowmaster |
| 10:16.56 | amro | it's a command |
| 10:17.04 | amro | there's a different verb to get at it, I thought it was cmdinfo |
| 10:17.09 | Arrowmaster | ~factinfo cmd: bonk (.*?) |
| 10:17.09 | purl | cmd: bonk (.*?) -- created by Maquis <~Maquis@byu074992wks.rn.byu.edu> at Fri Nov 5 22:12:07 2004 (2261 days); last modified at Thu Aug 14 13:56:53 2008 by gn00bie!n=asharma@cpe-69-202-33-132.twcny.res.rr.com; it has been requested 22 times, last by amro, 1m 44s ago. |
| 10:17.32 | Arrowmaster | ~bonk amro |
| 10:17.32 | purl | ACTION bonks arrowmaster on behalf of amro |
| 10:17.47 | amro | strange, maybe I'm confusing it with /bonk |
| 10:18.31 | Kalroth | ~bonk |
| 10:18.31 | purl | from memory, bonk is moo |
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| 10:26.47 | Kalroth | Fisker: how fast does it run if you enable all 4 cores?! |
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| 10:30.47 | Fisker | it's 3,8GHz right now on stock |
| 10:30.51 | Fisker | btw wtf |
| 10:30.54 | Fisker | i'm looting "Legs" |
| 10:31.29 | airtonix | good, coz ur gunna need em 2 get away from my awful engrish |
| 10:33.10 | Fisker | i can't find any item named "Legs" airtonix |
| 10:33.20 | Fisker | also they show up in loot as [] |
| 10:33.21 | airtonix | then ur fooked |
| 10:33.22 | Fisker | O_o |
| 10:33.29 | airtonix | tackles Fisker |
| 10:33.45 | airtonix | begins teaching fisker the kings engrish |
| 10:35.08 | Fisker | guess my cache is corrupt :P |
| 10:35.11 | Fisker | item id is http://www.wowhead.com/item=62122 |
| 10:35.56 | airtonix | Legs of the Decrepit Fox ? |
| 10:36.15 | Fisker | naw |
| 10:39.12 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 10:39.15 | airtonix | http://www.wowhead.com/forums&topic=179972 |
| 10:40.29 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 10:41.34 | airtonix | ncwest accused me of botting and buying game money three times lol |
| 10:41.56 | airtonix | within a three month period |
| 10:42.07 | Fisker | k |
| 10:42.14 | airtonix | i thought that was hilarious |
| 10:42.49 | airtonix | especially since ll the bots i reported with video records were still there in the same place doing there thing when i got back in game |
| 10:43.05 | amro | "First of all, you're probably going to get a bunch of "yeah, well, you probably did something fishy" replies, so embrace yourself." |
| 10:43.12 | amro | embrace for impact! |
| 10:43.17 | airtonix | embrac yaself |
| 10:43.24 | airtonix | brackets |
| 10:43.55 | airtonix | ncwest said the same thing to me as they did to that chap |
| 10:44.13 | airtonix | "We couldn't possibly be wrong, but we will let you off this time." |
| 10:44.19 | airtonix | "Don't do it again" |
| 10:46.23 | airtonix | He just pulled the race card. Everybody agree with him before Asia zergs our base. |
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| 11:01.27 | jnwhiteh | Adys: do you remember what API I need to use to construct a bnet name from the links I get? |
| 11:01.38 | Adys | umm |
| 11:01.45 | Adys | what links? |
| 11:01.51 | jnwhiteh | the |k links |
| 11:01.57 | jnwhiteh | that are sent as 'sender' in the events |
| 11:02.06 | jnwhiteh | apparently those numbers change |
| 11:02.19 | jnwhiteh | i recall you recently doing the documentation for that function |
| 11:02.22 | jnwhiteh | just dont recall which it is |
| 11:02.23 | Adys | BNGetFriendInfoByID |
| 11:02.41 | jnwhiteh | so I can just concat givenname, surname? |
| 11:02.51 | Adys | I'd think so yeah |
| 11:02.59 | Adys | i havent used these much |
| 11:03.19 | Adys | jnwhiteh: there might be a globalstring for it |
| 11:03.42 | jnwhiteh | where does one get the 'toast data'? |
| 11:04.02 | Adys | one sec |
| 11:04.10 | amro | bnet is so broken in wow |
| 11:05.04 | Adys | jnwhiteh: FriendsFriendsFrameTitle:SetFormattedText(FRIENDS_FRIENDS_HEADER, FRIENDS_BNET_NAME_COLOR_CODE..string.format(BATTLENET_NAME_FORMAT, givenName, surname)); |
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| 11:05.29 | jnwhiteh | yeah I can't figure out how to get, from arg2 to BN_WHISPER the given name, surname |
| 11:05.31 | jnwhiteh | but i'm working on it |
| 11:05.44 | Adys | send me a whisp |
| 11:06.13 | Adys | ah.. |
| 11:06.20 | jnwhiteh | see, arg2 says its your name |
| 11:06.25 | jnwhiteh | but in reality, that doesn't appear to be the case.. |
| 11:06.27 | jnwhiteh | unless.. |
| 11:06.43 | Adys | that's truly retarded |
| 11:06.50 | Adys | what's arg 11? |
| 11:07.19 | Fisker | hello |
| 11:07.19 | Adys | and, come to think of it, you can use the name and iterate over the friends list |
| 11:07.21 | jnwhiteh | 580 |
| 11:07.35 | Adys | if theres more than 1 John Doe, it'll show "John Doe 2" and so on |
| 11:08.27 | jnwhiteh | gah |
| 11:08.31 | jnwhiteh | i put arg2 into a table |
| 11:08.35 | jnwhiteh | but then its not what it appears to be |
| 11:08.49 | Adys | tables make people do things.... |
| 11:09.01 | amro | people do things on tables |
| 11:09.04 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 11:09.37 | jnwhiteh | so I have "|Kf38|k00000000000000000|k |
| 11:09.43 | jnwhiteh | and that somehow is your name |
| 11:09.46 | jnwhiteh | or mikma's, not sure. |
| 11:12.54 | jnwhiteh | so if anyone can help me figure out how to get from a |K link to an actual name, I would appreciate that |
| 11:14.24 | Adys | jnwhiteh: id = getIdFromBnetLink(link); name = BATTLENET_NAME_FORMAT:format(BNGetFriendsInfoByID(id)) |
| 11:14.59 | jnwhiteh | Adys: where's that function? |
| 11:15.00 | Elkano | yeah, the 0s are just a padded placeholder |
| 11:15.18 | Adys | jnwhiteh: yours; make it parse the |K link, it's safe enough |
| 11:15.22 | Adys | well |
| 11:15.24 | Adys | i guess |
| 11:15.33 | Adys | you can try feeding BNGetFriendsInfoByID a link |
| 11:15.36 | Adys | it might accept it |
| 11:15.39 | jnwhiteh | so I just need the 38? |
| 11:15.46 | Adys | yes |
| 11:15.53 | Adys | but, try with the full link anyway first |
| 11:15.58 | Adys | who knows |
| 11:16.44 | Elkano | |K[gsf][0-9]+|k[0]+|k |
| 11:16.45 | Elkano | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.45 | Elkano | string |Kg30|k0000|k . |
| 11:17.13 | jnwhiteh | so the ID is 30? |
| 11:17.18 | amro | holy shit BN_FRIEND_INFO_CHANGED is spammy |
| 11:17.18 | Adys | yep |
| 11:27.34 | jnwhiteh | Adys: the returns from BNGetFriendInfoByID are links.. again |
| 11:27.44 | Adys | urg |
| 11:27.48 | Adys | no idea then, sorry :/ |
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| 11:28.03 | jnwhiteh | I quit then |
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| 11:38.18 | zenzelezz | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/demotivational-posters-experts.jpg |
| 11:41.49 | airtonix | i wonder how many offers to be a getaway driver Ken Block gets every day |
| 11:44.29 | Kraftman | anyone got the code to expand chat windows basd on their content? or know an addon that does it? |
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| 11:59.54 | Fierceflame | Is it possible to easily reverse a not known boolean value without an if/elseif statement? So true becomes false and false bcomes true? |
| 12:00.25 | airtonix | investigate "ternary" |
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| 12:00.32 | airtonix | ~pil |
| 12:00.32 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 12:01.17 | jnwhiteh | Fierceflame: not not not |
| 12:01.26 | jnwhiteh | will turn any value into its reverse boolean |
| 12:01.33 | jnwhiteh | not not turns a value into a boolean |
| 12:02.10 | airtonix | lua> a=1 b=2 not not a=b |
| 12:02.10 | lua_bot | airtonix: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'not' |
| 12:02.22 | airtonix | or something |
| 12:03.01 | Fierceflame | lua> a=true; not not not a |
| 12:03.01 | lua_bot | Fierceflame: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near 'not' |
| 12:03.12 | jnwhiteh | lua> not not not "foo" |
| 12:03.12 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: false |
| 12:03.47 | mikma | not not not |
| 12:04.00 | Fierceflame | lua> a=true; a = not not not a |
| 12:04.01 | lua_bot | Fierceflame: No output |
| 12:04.12 | Fierceflame | Well atleast that didnt throw an error xD |
| 12:04.41 | Fierceflame | lua> a=true; a = not not not a; print(a) |
| 12:04.42 | lua_bot | Fierceflame: false |
| 12:04.51 | Fierceflame | Awesome, thanks Jnwhiteh ^^ |
| 12:04.59 | Fierceflame | Allthough it looks kinda strange xD |
| 12:05.37 | mikma | http://engrishfunny.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129165034900554103.jpg |
| 12:06.39 | Fierceflame | :P |
| 12:06.52 | Fierceflame | 4MqzcRG4 |
| 12:06.59 | airtonix | logging in |
| 12:07.06 | airtonix | gold transferred |
| 12:07.09 | zenzelezz | don't lua have anything like "arf = !arf"? |
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| 12:07.12 | airtonix | toon naked |
| 12:07.16 | Fierceflame | Wrong freenode window :P |
| 12:07.16 | airtonix | logging out |
| 12:07.20 | jnwhiteh | zenzelezz: foo = not foo |
| 12:07.21 | jnwhiteh | yes |
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| 12:07.43 | Fierceflame | Gladly Im using different passwords for all stuff xD |
| 12:07.45 | jnwhiteh | and that will work for pretty much everything |
| 12:10.20 | Kraftman | whats the difference between "not not not" and just "not" |
| 12:10.45 | Kraftman | lua> not "foo" |
| 12:10.45 | lua_bot | Kraftman: false |
| 12:11.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> not "this is not a boolean value" |
| 12:11.01 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 12:11.06 | Arrowmaster | lua> not not not "this is not a boolean value" |
| 12:11.07 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: false |
| 12:11.31 | Arrowmaster | actually there is no difference |
| 12:11.34 | Arrowmaster | just use a single not |
| 12:11.54 | amro | this isn't c++! it probably gets compiled the same |
| 12:12.10 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 12:12.22 | amro | it should be |
| 12:12.31 | Arrowmaster | lua does not do much byte code optimization at all |
| 12:12.34 | amro | unless, can you override not's behavior? |
| 12:14.30 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: in this case no |
| 12:14.33 | jnwhiteh | i was thinking 'not not' |
| 12:14.36 | jnwhiteh | to get a boolean from a value |
| 12:14.42 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 12:20.51 | Fierceflame | Another question, Is there a way to dostuff when checkbox gets checked or unchecked, or should I keep using OnClick for that? |
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| 12:21.40 | airtonix | lua> a=1; b=2; print(a==b) |
| 12:21.41 | lua_bot | airtonix: false |
| 12:21.46 | airtonix | lua> a=1; b=2; print(not(a==b)) |
| 12:21.47 | lua_bot | airtonix: true |
| 12:21.50 | airtonix | lua> a=1; b=2; print(not not(a==b)) |
| 12:21.51 | lua_bot | airtonix: false |
| 12:21.54 | airtonix | lua> a=1; b=2; print(not not not(a==b)) |
| 12:21.55 | lua_bot | airtonix: true |
| 12:21.58 | airtonix | lua> a=1; b=2; print(not not not not(a==b)) |
| 12:21.59 | lua_bot | airtonix: false |
| 12:22.13 | airtonix | one is enough |
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| 12:26.04 | jnwhiteh | yes, we already came to that conclusion.. |
| 12:26.23 | jnwhiteh | Fierceflame: There's an OnChecked script, afaik |
| 12:42.06 | Fierceflame | It isn;t in the reference? oO |
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| 12:57.12 | jnwhiteh | Fierceflame: ah correct, you can use OnClick |
| 12:57.20 | jnwhiteh | just DONT _change_ the checked state in the onclick |
| 12:57.22 | jnwhiteh | that happens automatically |
| 12:58.11 | Wobin | what's the word that means a temporary solution that starts with 'e' |
| 12:58.16 | Wobin | (I think it starts with e) |
| 12:58.37 | Wobin | or a 'make do' solution |
| 12:59.38 | amro | Wobin: a hack? :) |
| 13:00.26 | Adys | Wobin: in which context? programmatically? |
| 13:00.35 | Wobin | not programatically |
| 13:00.37 | Wobin | just in general |
| 13:00.41 | Adys | a workaround? |
| 13:00.45 | Wobin | sort of |
| 13:01.08 | Wobin | it kinda means "We need an answer now, and this one will have to do, even if it's not the perfect one" |
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| 13:02.34 | Adys | umm |
| 13:04.07 | Adys | Wobin: substitute? |
| 13:04.21 | Wobin | no =\ |
| 13:04.41 | Adys | equivalent? :p |
| 13:04.48 | Yoshimo | if my screen goes white after loading screen and wow gets stuck and unresponsive and needs to be killed with taskmngr each time, what could cause this? |
| 13:04.52 | Wobin | it's an older sounding word |
| 13:04.59 | Wobin | or perhaps a posher sounding word |
| 13:05.01 | Adys | Yoshimo: sounds like driver issue |
| 13:05.13 | Adys | Yoshimo: could be an addon preventing worldframe from rendering tho |
| 13:07.32 | Adys | Wobin: only words i can think of are in eq- for this sort of thing |
| 13:07.56 | Wobin | I keep thinking it starts with 'er' |
| 13:08.23 | Yoshimo | the game is still connected with the server and they exchange encrypted traffic, but there is no timeout^^ this will be a great problem to solve.. |
| 13:08.57 | Adys | Yoshimo: are you able to quit with alt-f4? |
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| 13:09.44 | Yoshimo | yes, but the problem is back when i try to login again^^ |
| 13:11.19 | Wobin | Adys: What I'm trying to phrase is: "In the land of <makeshift solutions to find translations of foreign phrases> solutions. Google is King" |
| 13:12.32 | Wobin | I'm sure it starts with 'e' |
| 13:15.04 | Yoshimo | adys, what could i do`? ;) |
| 13:15.21 | Adys | Yoshimo: sounds like an addon problem |
| 13:15.27 | Adys | disable them all, reenable one by one if that worked |
| 13:15.51 | Yoshimo | i thought that would come.. hurts |
| 13:16.07 | Adys | Wobin: i dunno.. inelegant? |
| 13:16.16 | Adys | expedient? |
| 13:17.41 | Adys | Wobin: expedient is the best i can think of, if that's not it i give up |
| 13:17.50 | Wobin | possibly |
| 13:18.53 | Wobin | it's not actually, but that word is just at the tip of my brain, but totally inaccessible |
| 13:20.52 | Adys | Wobin: Go make some food and watch a movie |
| 13:20.53 | Wobin | I'm thinking it's perhaps a borrowed word from French maybe |
| 13:20.55 | Adys | it'll come back to you |
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| 13:42.07 | Wobin | Adys: I think I was looking for Ad Hoc |
| 13:42.20 | Adys | that doesn't start with an e. |
| 13:42.24 | Wobin | no it doesn't |
| 13:42.31 | Adys | but if you think you were looking for it, you weren't |
| 13:42.35 | Wobin | So it may in fact not be the word =) |
| 13:42.47 | Wobin | But it's close enough to ping the familiarsation meter |
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| 13:56.34 | airtonix | man i need a psu that has awesome amount of sata plugs |
| 13:56.50 | airtonix | and one that is modular |
| 13:58.59 | Wobin | argh |
| 13:59.04 | Wobin | tried Faxion for 5min |
| 13:59.07 | Wobin | that was enough for me |
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| 14:02.48 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 14:03.32 | airtonix | Fisker, what psu do you use ? |
| 14:03.56 | airtonix | i found this one has 11 sata plugs : http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=15_226&products_id=13512 |
| 14:04.04 | foxlit | I'm beginning to hate modular PSUs |
| 14:04.14 | airtonix | any reason ? |
| 14:04.22 | foxlit | Though that may have to do with case design and PSU design |
| 14:04.36 | airtonix | what are the negatives ? |
| 14:04.36 | foxlit | It tends to be a pain to have to insert additional cables |
| 14:05.02 | foxlit | Since you're dealing with a chunk of wires that's already in place and rather difficult to move; if your case sucks, you also can't see the slots. |
| 14:05.14 | airtonix | i got this case : http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_30_394&products_id=15809 |
| 14:05.20 | airtonix | lian li |
| 14:05.26 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: indeed |
| 14:06.50 | Fisker | that sucks airtonix |
| 14:06.57 | airtonix | the psu ? |
| 14:07.00 | Fisker | i use a corsair hx-750 or so i think |
| 14:07.03 | Fisker | the case airtonix |
| 14:07.32 | foxlit | Things to keep in mind when picking a PSU: cable length |
| 14:08.12 | foxlit | that's really a factor of your case/motherboard form factor; you may need a longer or shorter cable to either get it to fit directly without curling half-way through the case; or a longer cable to route it through the back of the case. |
| 14:08.27 | airtonix | im going to need long cables |
| 14:08.47 | foxlit | Funnily enough, that case looks small. |
| 14:08.54 | airtonix | deceptively |
| 14:09.02 | foxlit | And then there's the matter of where the PSU is mounted in the case. |
| 14:09.31 | airtonix | bottom front, next to the access panel |
| 14:09.33 | foxlit | For instance, http://www.pureoverclock.com/images/news/antec902_1.jpg mounts it at the bottom, yet I think the PSU I'm using was designed under the assumption it was at the top -- something to do with where the non-modular outputs are located |
| 14:09.35 | airtonix | i mean rear |
| 14:10.20 | airtonix | fisker, can you use all 12 sata plugs on that psu ? |
| 14:10.55 | foxlit | Not that sata plugs are limited. Just adapt the 4-pins. |
| 14:11.06 | airtonix | you sure ? |
| 14:11.28 | foxlit | http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=4-pin+sata+power&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=6945054470362568396&ei=BqsxTcf0GY2SOvP-rbUC&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCgQ8wIwAg# |
| 14:11.33 | foxlit | Those things are pretty common |
| 14:12.11 | airtonix | yeah i also saw some punch down sata plugs for adding more onto an existing line at 90 degrees |
| 14:12.23 | airtonix | 70cents each or something |
| 14:12.51 | Slaren | that might be a better idea, if the psu can handle that |
| 14:13.06 | Slaren | wiring >10 hdds with 2 plugs for each cable must be a pain |
| 14:13.42 | airtonix | i also have lots of heat shrink tubing and solder, so i could buy wire and extend the cables |
| 14:13.49 | airtonix | in length |
| 14:14.27 | airtonix | but my case is only going to hold a max of 11 possible drives |
| 14:15.02 | Adys | http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/2010/05/26/the-system-376-lattes/ |
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| 14:26.42 | Fisker | foxlit i wish cable routing and such were a standard :< |
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| 14:26.55 | Fisker | you can get extension cables though |
| 14:26.59 | Fisker | so not the end of the world |
| 14:27.00 | Fisker | but an noying |
| 14:27.18 | p3lim | someone remove the Free Hentai Porn thread on wowi |
| 14:27.54 | Fisker | why? |
| 14:28.00 | Fisker | i want free hentai porn |
| 14:28.07 | p3lim | go ahead and click the link |
| 14:28.11 | airtonix | lolz |
| 14:28.29 | p3lim | but please fisker, turn of all ad blocking addons and your firewall |
| 14:29.03 | Fisker | i don't use either |
| 14:29.42 | Fisker | did they already delete it? |
| 14:29.45 | Fisker | i want free hentai porn |
| 14:31.30 | Shirik | ? |
| 14:31.32 | Shirik | wtf |
| 14:31.50 | Shirik | I only got like 20 emails |
| 14:32.20 | Shirik | of course none of those were from Fisker |
| 14:32.28 | Fisker | :<? |
| 14:32.31 | foxlit | spam folder is awesome |
| 14:32.32 | Shirik | also, done p3lim |
| 14:32.40 | p3lim | Shirik: :] |
| 14:32.46 | Shirik | but foxlit beat you |
| 14:32.49 | airtonix | Fiskers emails get bounced at the country border |
| 14:33.04 | foxlit | "World of Warcraft - Account Investigation" "World of Warcraft - Account Issue" "World of Warcraft - Account Investigation" "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Christmas gifts!" "World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Mounts!" |
| 14:33.24 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 14:33.29 | Fisker | i wanted free hentai porn :( |
| 14:33.52 | p3lim | I guess the site is still up, even though the thread aint |
| 14:34.06 | airtonix | Fiskers a slow clicker |
| 14:34.30 | Fisker | wasn't under todays posts |
| 14:34.32 | Fisker | so i win |
| 14:34.54 | foxlit | lua> ([[<xml awesome="true">]]):match[[%S+=(["'])([^%1])%1]] |
| 14:34.54 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 14:34.55 | airtonix | as in "you licked it" |
| 14:35.07 | foxlit | lua> ([[<xml awesome="true">]]):match([[%S+=(["'])([^%1])%1]]) |
| 14:35.08 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 14:35.23 | airtonix | you cant see that can you ? |
| 14:35.24 | foxlit | which [, I wonder |
| 14:35.53 | airtonix | your comma is not a comma |
| 14:36.18 | foxlit | fail, lua_bot, fail. |
| 14:36.19 | airtonix | or what ever it is between the first two square brackets |
| 14:36.34 | foxlit | the interpreter doesn't complain about that line |
| 14:36.47 | foxlit | lua> return ([[<xml awesome="true">]]):match([[%S+=(["'])([^%1])%1]]) |
| 14:36.48 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
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| 14:38.31 | foxlit | Guess I can't do [^%1], which is a pity |
| 14:40.14 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: my interpreter definitely complains about that line |
| 14:40.20 | jnwhiteh | as in it gets quit |
| 14:40.36 | jnwhiteh | lua> ([[<xml awesome="true">]]):match([[%S+=(["'])([^%1])%1]]) |
| 14:40.37 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: nil |
| 14:40.44 | jnwhiteh | you had a char in there that was non-printable |
| 14:40.46 | jnwhiteh | but fucking things up |
| 14:41.05 | jnwhiteh | shows up in zsh as ^\ |
| 14:41.13 | jnwhiteh | fail, foxlit, fail |
| 14:41.16 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 14:41.54 | foxlit | lua> ([[<xml awesome="true">]]):match([[%S+=(["'])([^%1])%1]]) |
| 14:41.55 | lua_bot | foxlit: nil |
| 14:41.57 | foxlit | fun. |
| 14:42.54 | amro | jnwhiteh: you've used Go, right? |
| 14:43.05 | jnwhiteh | my research is in Go, yeah |
| 14:43.29 | amro | oh, neat, was just looking for a first hand recommendation from someone with lots of experience with it |
| 14:45.18 | amro | the best description for what I have in mind would be a bnet2 server, communicating with C++ clients |
| 14:45.22 | amro | ideally with protobuf |
| 14:45.29 | amro | have you done something like that? |
| 14:45.44 | airtonix | as your lawyer i am advising you not to answer |
| 14:48.31 | jnwhiteh | I haven't done that specifically, but stuff like that in general isn't terribly difficult |
| 14:48.41 | jnwhiteh | I'd start with simpler examples to learn the syntax and some of the idioms |
| 14:48.45 | jnwhiteh | the codewalks are pretty nice |
| 14:48.56 | jnwhiteh | and there's a decent RPC example that I could probably send you some of the stuff fofr |
| 14:50.59 | amro | jnwhiteh: what I mean to ask, is duplicating the type structures simple enough to be worth it over reusing the same code (C++) on both ends? |
| 14:51.28 | jnwhiteh | that depends, do the structs have unions? |
| 14:51.37 | jnwhiteh | if not, then you should be able to duplicate them without an issue |
| 14:52.52 | amro | I'll give it a shot then, thanks |
| 14:54.10 | jnwhiteh | let me know if I can help at all |
| 14:54.21 | jnwhiteh | especially with idioms |
| 14:56.23 | amro | will do, but not starting on it right away, just thinking ahead a bit |
| 14:58.55 | Computerpunk | Fisker |
| 14:59.56 | Jamash | Fiskerpunk Computer |
| 15:05.28 | airtonix | Jampisker Funk |
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| 15:08.32 | amro | airtronix |
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| 15:09.42 | Fisker | Computerpunk |
| 15:10.27 | Fisker | farts |
| 15:10.54 | Computerpunk | slaps a big large trout with a Fisker. |
| 15:11.47 | jnwhiteh | how long do you think it would take me to go 70-75? |
| 15:12.04 | cbreak | 5 days |
| 15:12.11 | Jamash | half an hour |
| 15:12.28 | amro | depends how often you play and rested time, I'd say 3 days or so |
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| 15:17.18 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 15:17.20 | jnwhiteh | not sure if its worth that |
| 15:17.25 | jnwhiteh | for a professions mule |
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| 15:21.08 | amro | you can just do the dungeon daily on it, it'll be up before you know it |
| 15:21.16 | jnwhiteh | thats true |
| 15:21.20 | jnwhiteh | what spec as a mage would be fun? |
| 15:21.42 | Jamash | mage |
| 15:21.42 | amro | frost |
| 15:21.51 | amro | fire is fun too, but lots of oom |
| 15:21.57 | amro | arcane is bleh right now |
| 15:22.06 | amro | esp in 70-75 dungeons with all that aoe |
| 15:22.09 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:22.14 | Wobin | but that's more for solo |
| 15:22.30 | jnwhiteh | yeah i'd be more likely to dungeon |
| 15:22.32 | jnwhiteh | depending on queue times |
| 15:22.35 | jnwhiteh | which i suspect are terrible. |
| 15:22.39 | jnwhiteh | so if thats the case, dunno what i'll do |
| 15:22.40 | Wobin | especially for dps |
| 15:22.41 | amro | oh right, queue times |
| 15:22.44 | Jamash | bg xp yo |
| 15:22.48 | foxlit | Roll a tank, yo! |
| 15:22.49 | amro | lol |
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| 15:22.57 | foxlit | I mean, tanking is braindead. |
| 15:23.02 | foxlit | And queue times are instant. |
| 15:23.05 | foxlit | What could possibly go wrong? |
| 15:23.06 | amro | queue times on my tanks are instant, always, any time of day |
| 15:23.09 | dusf | i am way to ocd to customize my UI, it is going to take a very, very long time! |
| 15:23.35 | amro | not ocd enough to double check that "too" |
| 15:23.42 | foxlit | It's a joke, really -- I can choose to queue as a healer, sit through a 10-minute queue, and have only a marginal effect on the probability of success. |
| 15:23.53 | Wobin | tanking is annoying |
| 15:24.05 | foxlit | Or I can equip feral gear, queue as a tank, and be done with the dungeon in about an hour. |
| 15:24.06 | Wobin | healing pre caty is much more braindead |
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| 15:24.13 | amro | it depends really |
| 15:24.21 | amro | but most of the time, you can slack while tanking |
| 15:24.21 | jnwhiteh | i have a tank |
| 15:24.24 | Wobin | well we can't swipespam anymore |
| 15:24.26 | jnwhiteh | he's not a professions whore |
| 15:24.30 | jnwhiteh | tho maybe I should make him one =) |
| 15:24.32 | jnwhiteh | since he's a dk |
| 15:24.38 | foxlit | The only problem with this brilliant plan is that my conscience prevents me from rolling on healing gear while tanking. |
| 15:24.53 | Wobin | maybe I should respec to boomkin |
| 15:25.01 | Wobin | so my healing gear kind of matches up |
| 15:25.18 | Wobin | except levelling as kitty is much easier |
| 15:25.46 | foxlit | As someone who's done 84-85 on beta as a moonkin, and 80-85 on live as feral, I can assert that they both suck equally much. |
| 15:26.26 | Wobin | oh I'm only 61 |
| 15:26.46 | foxlit | The advantage to going moonkin is that you don't have to waste a whole bag to store feral gear. |
| 15:26.51 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:27.37 | dusf | amro :) |
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| 15:31.41 | airtonix | did you say he's not a professional whore ? |
| 15:33.39 | jnwhiteh | Any other servers having terrible connection problems/issues? |
| 15:35.30 | zenzelezz | man, separating the different entries in a 17 GB error.log is tedious |
| 15:35.37 | zenzelezz | grumbles at former coworker |
| 15:40.03 | jnwhiteh | what is an average frost mage rotation these days then? |
| 15:40.26 | airtonix | faceroll, faceroll, faceroll, faceroll, drink |
| 15:41.02 | Taroven | airtonix: nonono, it's faceroll DRINK faceroll faceroll DRINK faceroll. |
| 15:41.03 | airtonix | faceroll, faceroll, roll need on priest gear, qq about losing |
| 15:41.24 | jnwhiteh | wow guys, that was helpful! |
| 15:41.29 | Taroven | liek gawd, you gotta drink on cd. |
| 15:41.31 | airtonix | faceroll, drink, faceroll, faceroll, faceroll, ragequit |
| 15:41.53 | airtonix | oh yeah |
| 15:42.00 | Taroven | Sorry jnwhiteh, had to poke fun. I honestly have no idea, haven't done mage since pre-bc. |
| 15:42.11 | Taroven | shuffles off to work |
| 15:42.12 | airtonix | throw a few pull aggros in there with "LOLIMLIEKTANKING" |
| 15:42.26 | Jamash | bind ice lance to all buttons, faceroll |
| 15:47.54 | Adys | http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/2010/10/06/the-system-423-types-of-typos/ |
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| 15:49.06 | Blu|Working | \o |
| 15:49.46 | airtonix | o7 |
| 15:50.10 | Blu|Working | PTR patch notes have been updated again with this for archeology " * The sell value of all common artifacts has been doubled, while a small subset of common artifacts have had their sell value increased far beyond that." |
| 15:50.16 | Blu|Working | interesting |
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| 15:53.35 | Fisker | slaps Blu|Working around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:53.39 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 15:53.43 | Blu|Working | lolz |
| 15:53.47 | Blu|Working | are you sick fisker ? |
| 15:53.50 | Blu|Working | are you warm ? |
| 15:53.54 | Blu|Working | getting enough to eat ? |
| 15:53.55 | Fisker | interesting would be that the droprate of rare artifacts increase as you solve artifacts |
| 15:54.00 | Blu|Working | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:54.02 | Fisker | I'm sick Blu|Working |
| 15:54.12 | Fisker | i had lulz today Blu|Working |
| 15:54.21 | Fisker | someone named Uterus complaining over his name getting changed |
| 15:54.25 | foxlit | pop quiz: name a wand dealing frost damage |
| 15:54.41 | Fisker | Someone saying that Blizzard could reduce battleground queues, and that he should have monetary compensation for waiting in queue |
| 15:54.44 | Fisker | lulz |
| 15:57.31 | Blu|Working | ...... |
| 15:57.37 | Blu|Working | thats funny |
| 15:57.44 | Blu|Working | thank you for brightening my day |
| 15:57.45 | jnwhiteh | average wait time: 25 minutes |
| 15:59.31 | foxlit | Hm |
| 15:59.42 | Jamash | foxlit: http://www.wowhead.com/items=2.19?filter=cr=35;crs=4;crv=0#0-2+1 |
| 16:00.00 | foxlit | I wonder if there are any items with two On Equip/Chance on Hit effects that aren't just stats. |
| 16:00.20 | foxlit | Jamash: yes, but too late :) |
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| 16:02.33 | Blu|Working | you guys know of any quest listings / formula for working out how much guild experience you get from a quest ? |
| 16:03.41 | Jamash | guild xp = 1/4 player xp |
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| 16:03.54 | Blu|Working | .... |
| 16:04.04 | Blu|Working | it's that simple ? |
| 16:04.08 | Blu|Working | *face palm* |
| 16:04.10 | Jamash | yes |
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| 16:04.49 | Blu|Working | how about guild reputation ? |
| 16:05.20 | jnwhiteh | is my WoTLK PvP gear going to be worth _anything_? should I hold onto it or are the stat points/balance just screwed? |
| 16:05.41 | jnwhiteh | I'm wonderinf i I can sell it. |
| 16:05.46 | jnwhiteh | s/can/should/ |
| 16:07.08 | Jamash | other than trinkets it's worthless at 85 |
| 16:07.23 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 16:07.26 | jnwhiteh | thank you =) |
| 16:07.52 | jnwhiteh | not that I have ANY plans to pvp |
| 16:09.50 | Pneumatus | the stamina jump from 80-85 gear alone makes it worthless :< |
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| 16:10.06 | jnwhiteh | aye |
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| 16:14.57 | mikma | wobin: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/meanwhile_in_australia4.jpg |
| 16:15.35 | zenzelezz | "For example, there's a program out there that relies on the subtle placement and absence of the WS_BORDER style to decide whether a control is a combo box or a list box. I guess the GetClassName function was too much work?" |
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| 16:20.18 | Adys | http://www.geekologie.com/2011/01/how_to_turn_lighters_into_a_li.php |
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| 16:34.16 | Yoshimo | blizzard armory: 503 currently this service is not available for characters below lvl 100 ;) |
| 16:36.08 | Cide | owned |
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| 16:53.51 | Fisker | old Yoshimo |
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| 17:04.45 | mckenziemc | Fisker |
| 17:05.26 | mikma | fiskered |
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| 17:18.47 | Fisker | slaps mckenziemc around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:57.56 | dusf | with beql and lightheaded installed shouldn't the first page of lightheaded show you a link for the npc where the quests starts and ends, allowing you to click on them bringing up and arrow on mapster or cart? |
| 18:07.07 | Blu|Working | fisker |
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| 18:09.03 | jnwhiteh | dusf: LightHeaded works with the default quest log, test with that. |
| 18:09.09 | jnwhiteh | I have no idea what/if BEQL is doing anything |
| 18:09.21 | jnwhiteh | and it will integrate with TomTom, MapNotes or Cartographer |
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| 18:17.39 | Fisker | Blu|Working |
| 18:17.41 | Fisker | it's cold |
| 18:17.43 | Fisker | and i'm very sick |
| 18:18.28 | cogwheel | you must have an std from your mom. |
| 18:18.39 | Fisker | maybe i got it from your mom cogwheel |
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| 18:21.05 | cogwheel | terrorweb tunnel has caught on... |
| 18:21.20 | cogwheel | i'm rarely alone now dispatching with the critters |
| 18:21.37 | Fisker | reported for exploitation cogwheel |
| 18:21.38 | cogwheel | s/with// or something |
| 18:21.40 | Fisker | what server are you on? |
| 18:21.50 | cogwheel | http://www.groundingtotem.com |
| 18:21.53 | cogwheel | :P |
| 18:22.20 | Fisker | haha! |
| 18:25.36 | Fisker | Blu|Working |
| 18:25.38 | Fisker | what you want? |
| 18:27.37 | Fisker | slaps Blu|Working around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:27.51 | Blu|Working | i r hungry fisker |
| 18:27.53 | Blu|Working | and sleepy |
| 18:27.54 | Blu|Working | :( |
| 18:28.30 | mckenziemc | and working? |
| 18:28.37 | Fisker | me too Blu|Working |
| 18:28.43 | Blu|Working | @work overnight |
| 18:28.52 | Blu|Working | waiting for my releif shift worker to come in |
| 18:29.13 | Fisker | sexual relief Blu|Working ? |
| 18:29.40 | Blusleepycow | *sleeps* |
| 18:43.35 | Blusleepycow | kk i goes home for b'fast then go sleeps nows |
| 18:44.46 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* he means dinner |
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| 18:45.34 | amro | Thunder_Child: not if he didn't eat all day |
| 18:46.22 | Thunder_Child | amro: true, but unlikely |
| 18:51.38 | zenzelezz | hey TC, did you finish that timelapse thing you were doing, or is that still recording? |
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| 19:08.26 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: i finisehd |
| 19:08.29 | Thunder_Child | finished* |
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| 19:09.12 | zenzelezz | how did it turn out? |
| 19:09.53 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4_tECDK4j8 |
| 19:10.04 | Thunder_Child | i am still tempted to clean it up however |
| 19:11.21 | jnwhiteh | very cool |
| 19:11.53 | zenzelezz | clean up how? |
| 19:12.01 | zenzelezz | that's pretty neat |
| 19:12.11 | Thunder_Child | exposure |
| 19:12.21 | Thunder_Child | and the bit of wall on the sides |
| 19:12.47 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:13.27 | zenzelezz | when you spoke of making that I was reminded of the ones I captured from our old office back in 2009... assembled what I had into month-long clips. Quality wasn't stellar to begin with (taken from a security webcammy thing), and less so after having to go through re-encoding, but still a little interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40s8v4Qst_g |
| 19:13.37 | zenzelezz | roughly 50 minutes "real time" per second |
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| 19:53.10 | Thunder_Child | nice view zenzelezz, but yea, the quality leaves something to be desired |
| 19:54.12 | zenzelezz | I'd say it leaves a lot to be desired :-) |
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| 19:54.36 | zenzelezz | if we get a view like that again, I'm going to have to convince them to buy a better camera |
| 19:55.38 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: or you buy a better one |
| 19:56.40 | zenzelezz | I could, but I tend to want to carry mine around; not leave it at the office. I think I could do something like that with my Canon 450D actually |
| 19:57.42 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: yep, thats what i did |
| 20:01.19 | Primer | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.34 | Primer | I know I could just do the math myself, but... |
| 20:02.09 | Primer | Maybe this could be a macro? |
| 20:02.34 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: did it capture to single pictures then, or did it make a movie automatically? |
| 20:03.20 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: single pictures |
| 20:03.32 | zenzelezz | sweet, I'll have to try that out |
| 20:03.37 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: the canon software comes with an intervalomiter |
| 20:03.51 | zenzelezz | might have to get a longer cable though |
| 20:04.07 | Thunder_Child | yea, i got a 15' usb cable |
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| 20:20.15 | Ackis | hey Shirik I enabled auctioneer on my main, I'm gonna try to lose/make a lot of gold! you're my inspiration!!! |
| 20:20.37 | Shirik | please be sure to follow sane strategies |
| 20:21.15 | Ackis | I was gonna buy everything! |
| 20:22.01 | foxlit | 1. Buy the whole AH. |
| 20:22.05 | foxlit | 2. Hold it hostage? |
| 20:22.17 | Ackis | exactly |
| 20:22.51 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:23.09 | Shirik | spend at least a few hours learning your buyers and sellers |
| 20:23.19 | Shirik | Most of them will just blindly undercut |
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| 20:23.26 | Shirik | Every server has a few that won't |
| 20:23.29 | Shirik | You need to learn those names |
| 20:23.42 | Shirik | Some will always post at the same price, some will track it too closely for you to compete |
| 20:23.59 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:24.02 | Shirik | put them on your friends list and avoid competing with them |
| 20:24.02 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 20:24.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 20:24.14 | Adys | kd3: what build is current ptr? |
| 20:25.00 | Adys | ah got it |
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| 20:25.33 | Ackis | I should just pick a trade good and see if I can "own" the ah for it right? |
| 20:26.02 | foxlit | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/32396 |
| 20:26.08 | foxlit | it bugs me that they cannot render resistances |
| 20:26.18 | Shirik | Ackis: It's best to pick a category, imo |
| 20:26.29 | Shirik | Prices will fluctuate, there willl be downtime on items |
| 20:26.34 | Shirik | I choose the gem market, for example |
| 20:26.42 | Shirik | Usually there's a gem that's high and a gem that's low |
| 20:26.48 | Fisker | i chose the vendor items market |
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| 20:27.35 | Fisker | i also sniped an item for 3000 times the money in profit |
| 20:29.10 | Fisker | i see you are impressed |
| 20:29.12 | Ackis | nothing is showing up in the "vendor" search |
| 20:29.32 | Fisker | just how impressed are you Ackis ? |
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| 20:47.18 | Yoshimo | does the eu.wow forum have a bug-report-section already? |
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| 20:58.28 | Yoshimo | if you want to know what bonus an enchantid refers to and its not in http://www.wowpedia.org/EnchantId ,how would you find out? |
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| 21:22.58 | Adys_ | Yoshimo: http://db.mmo-champion.com/enchants |
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| 21:28.03 | zenzelezz | so... "viktig" is an invalid name for a Gmail label... o_O (That's Norwegian for "important") |
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| 21:41.55 | Shirik|Gh | hrm |
| 21:41.58 | Shirik|Gh | (16:14:31)  -⺠Quit: @Shirik (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 21:42.16 | Shirik|Gh | There's something to be said to an IRC server that sends you a QUIT message like such |
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| 21:46.22 | Cide | Shirik: why does auc-dev error like all the time |
| 21:46.33 | Shirik | because you got a crappy version? I dunno |
| 21:46.43 | Shirik | what did you get? |
| 21:46.56 | Cide | svn |
| 21:47.47 | Shirik | ok then you probably didn't install any of the libraries |
| 21:48.08 | Cide | maybe not |
| 21:48.14 | Shirik | I assume you pulled the Auctioneer repo |
| 21:48.18 | Cide | "svn co http://svn.norganna.org/auctioneer/trunk/ ." |
| 21:48.32 | Cide | ah, I need libs too |
| 21:48.32 | Cide | ? |
| 21:49.09 | Shirik | You also need |
| 21:49.09 | Shirik | http://dev.norganna.org/libs/trunk |
| 21:49.17 | Shirik | s/dev/svn/ |
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| 21:53.31 | Cide | that worked a lot better, thanks |
| 21:53.34 | Cide | now one more question |
| 21:53.47 | Cide | why does it print loaded messages to chat like it's 2006 |
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| 21:59.53 | zenzelezz | Shirik:what part of that quit message is so odd to you? |
| 22:00.04 | Shirik | that it told me that I quit |
| 22:00.55 | Shirik | (16:14:31)  -⺠Quit: @Shirik (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) |
| 22:00.56 | Shirik | (16:14:31) (*status) Error from Server [Closing Link: WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)] |
| 22:00.56 | Shirik | (16:14:31) (*status) Disconnected from IRC. Reconnecting... |
| 22:02.55 | Shirik | also, http://graphjam.memebase.com/2011/01/08/funny-graphs-hes-a-mini-boss/ |
| 22:04.16 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 22:04.30 | Shirik | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:04.45 | Fisker | why would you do that? |
| 22:06.27 | Shirik | sorry :( |
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| 22:07.06 | foxlit | pro, did "No Static at All" :P |
| 22:07.14 | Cide | me too |
| 22:07.23 | Cide | self-cast levitate directly after chain lightning |
| 22:07.24 | Cide | win |
| 22:07.34 | foxlit | jumped. |
| 22:07.38 | foxlit | And then jumped some more. |
| 22:07.52 | Cide | I prefer my way |
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| 22:21.11 | Fisker | i never got mine since i didn't know it was individual :P |
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| 22:38.36 | kd3 | whee; another campus-wide phone/text/email alert... thanks to a water main break in one of the buildings where I've got a class this semester |
| 22:38.43 | kd3 | curious how this is going to play out on tuesday |
| 22:40.20 | kd3 | wtfs at the ptr |
| 22:40.29 | kd3 | redownloading ~700 megs? |
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| 22:45.32 | Fisker | Why do we fall kd3 ? |
| 22:45.55 | kd3 | because of snow/ice that hasn't gotten cleaned up/removed? |
| 22:46.09 | Fisker | no |
| 22:46.18 | Fisker | so i can make ze fun of you |
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| 23:21.27 | mckenziemc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_boot_attack |
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| 23:52.22 | HighVolts | is there a lua function that places item thats held in cusor in a particular bag slot? PutItemInBag() only accepts a container id |
| 23:53.23 | HighVolts | trying to split a stack up, if the item gets drop back in the container then it goes back to the stack |
| 23:53.40 | Corrodias2 | i had another dream that i was playing WoW. wild. |
| 23:53.55 | Corrodias2 | one of very few recurring themes of my dreams |
| 23:54.05 | HighVolts | http://pastebin.com/Fm9yEhm3 if anyone is interested |
| 23:54.22 | foxlit | HighVolts: PickupContainerItem |
| 23:54.34 | HighVolts | that picks up the entire stack no? |
| 23:55.28 | karl_w_w | !api pickupc |
| 23:55.28 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'pickupc': PickupCurrency, PickupContainerItem, PickupCompanion |
| 23:55.32 | karl_w_w | !api pickupcontai |
| 23:55.33 | lua_bot | PickupContainerItem: Picks up an item from or puts an item into a slot in one of the player's bags or other containers (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/PickupContainerItem) |
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| 23:55.56 | foxlit | HighVolts: no, it's a direct answer to your question |
| 23:56.13 | foxlit | The thing is, that alongside picking items up, that function is also responsible for dropping items into specific slots. |
| 23:56.21 | HighVolts | sweet thanks, name is misleading |
| 23:56.23 | foxlit | So pick up as you wish, then use PickupContainerItem to drop. |
