| 00:05.42 | zenzelezz | well this was pathetic... just me and Captain Morgan ringing in the new year |
| 00:07.17 | Ketho | uhh happy new year .. to us in europe :) |
| 00:07.25 | zenzelezz | yup |
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| 00:17.36 | airtonix | ~seen FiskersMom |
| 00:17.44 | purl | fiskersmom <~4b6507b2@gateway/web/freenode/x-swkxaxkxejrspgpg> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 206d 6h 25m 38s ago, saying: 'Fisker: i need relief. come home.'. |
| 00:17.53 | airtonix | ahhh fun times |
| 00:18.15 | mckenziemc | ~seen purl |
| 00:18.16 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (1h 45m 51s) #botpark (1h 45m 51s) #linuxfund (1h 45m 51s) #waruidev (1h 45m 51s) #how (1h 45m 51s) #sc2mapster (1h 45m 51s) #edev (1h 45m 51s) #fossfund (1h 45m 51s) #hosernet (1h 45m 51s) #norganna (1h 45m 51s) ##ducleague (1h 45m 51s) #ud (1h 45m 51s) ##kierra (1h 45m 51s) #dbgc (1h 45m 51s) #dub (1h 45m 51s) #teleconf (1h 45m ... |
| 00:18.23 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 00:18.46 | airtonix | jealous? |
| 00:22.53 | Silversage | cbreak: More than what you're asking about, but I use EventHorizon for the same general purpose. |
| 00:23.22 | cbreak | I am now trying out an addon called "Raven" |
| 00:23.37 | cbreak | it replaces Satrina's Buff Frames for what I used them |
| 00:23.49 | cbreak | and it has a cooldown monitor... unfortunately only for spells I can't cast :/ |
| 00:23.54 | cbreak | trying to get used to it |
| 00:26.21 | cbreak | oh, neat, it can make custom bars that show always |
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| 00:40.06 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:41.25 | Torhal | cbreak: SexyCoolDown for your stuff. |
| 00:42.24 | cbreak | I am quite sure raven will do exactly what I want, just have to configure it |
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| 00:58.27 | Ackis | Torhal sux |
| 00:58.28 | Ackis | old man |
| 00:58.30 | Ackis | muhahah |
| 00:58.34 | Ackis | on a related note |
| 00:58.48 | Ackis | I need something to figure out the range of a mob |
| 00:59.08 | Nobgul | use a spell |
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| 00:59.47 | Ackis | I'm using many, just trying to figure out an easy way to keep this bastard within 6-20 yards |
| 01:00.01 | Nobgul | smack him with a bat. Always works for me |
| 01:00.23 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, there's a librangefinder and multiple ui mods that use it |
| 01:02.31 | zenzelezz | why 6-20? |
| 01:10.35 | Ackis | if you're closer than 6 he hits you for 500k+ further than 20 he resets |
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| 01:12.02 | zenzelezz | interesting, who is this? |
| 01:12.59 | Ackis | whale shark |
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| 01:25.38 | Adys | Ackis: have you been having the LOS issues with that retarded whale shark? |
| 01:25.48 | Adys | i tried to kite him but i kept getting los |
| 01:25.51 | Adys | retarded |
| 01:26.52 | Adys | also Ackis some range addons might not work depending on how they work. the whale shark has a huge hitbox |
| 01:30.43 | Ackis | yeah I'm getting LOS issues |
| 01:31.43 | Alram | happy new year programmer persons |
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| 01:42.22 | A-KO | OKAY |
| 01:42.23 | A-KO | SO |
| 01:42.28 | A-KO | CAN HUNMTERS DISPEL CRAP? |
| 01:42.44 | foxlit | ONLY ON UGLIES. |
| 01:42.56 | foxlit | (Tranq) |
| 01:43.01 | cbreak | tranq shot can remove frenzy effects |
| 01:43.08 | foxlit | and magic effects |
| 01:43.11 | cbreak | at least that's what it did in the molten core days |
| 01:43.22 | A-KO | arcane shot doesn't remove magics anymore? |
| 01:43.22 | cbreak | maybe they changed it |
| 01:43.31 | foxlit | Arcane shot is a focus dump now |
| 01:43.38 | A-KO | 'cause man |
| 01:43.55 | cbreak | it should be renamed... you don't even have mana anymore, so arcane is off limits |
| 01:44.15 | foxlit | Heroics would be a much happier place if everyone found their Kick and Purge buttons. |
| 01:44.44 | A-KO | we were on ozruk |
| 01:44.47 | A-KO | and I kept trying to get a dot on me |
| 01:44.49 | A-KO | and it wouldn't |
| 01:44.53 | A-KO | the dude puts a magic buff on himself |
| 01:44.58 | mckenziemc | magic removal was moved to tranq shot |
| 01:45.06 | A-KO | so my assumption is A) he doesn't always cast it, or B) it was getting dispelled |
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| 01:45.15 | mckenziemc | i think it's actually been that way since before 4.0 |
| 01:45.20 | foxlit | I doubt they'd let you dispel it |
| 01:45.24 | A-KO | they do |
| 01:45.30 | A-KO | I mean |
| 01:45.31 | mckenziemc | err maybe not, can't remember |
| 01:45.34 | A-KO | it wasn't on him the whole time |
| 01:45.40 | A-KO | and I spammed moonfire like crazy |
| 01:46.00 | foxlit | Meh, sucks to be you. |
| 01:46.07 | foxlit | On the other hand, the healer can save you. |
| 01:46.19 | A-KO | I am the healer |
| 01:46.23 | A-KO | I was getting paralyzed.... |
| 01:46.24 | A-KO | lol |
| 01:46.37 | foxlit | warrior tank? |
| 01:47.57 | A-KO | yes |
| 01:48.03 | foxlit | [You really have to jump through hoops to dispel as a hunter, so it's unlikely the fault lies there] |
| 01:48.10 | A-KO | maybe the war then |
| 01:48.13 | foxlit | Talk to them about not using Shield Slam on Ozruk |
| 01:48.28 | zenzelezz | how come? |
| 01:48.46 | foxlit | It's a magic dispel. |
| 01:48.52 | A-KO | lol |
| 01:48.54 | zenzelezz | I know that, but I haven't done Ozruk |
| 01:48.59 | zenzelezz | what's bad about dispelling on him? |
| 01:49.22 | foxlit | You end up dispelling a spell reflect which is needed for casters to stay alive. |
| 01:49.50 | mckenziemc | why did blizz make it dispellable? |
| 01:50.01 | foxlit | Because you don't want to screw casters with a 10-second spell reflection either |
| 01:50.15 | mckenziemc | ah |
| 01:50.33 | zenzelezz | that sounds like an interesting new twists; the only reflects I can remember from before were better removed, since they just reflected damage *back at* casters |
| 01:51.05 | foxlit | zenzelezz: in this case, you need that damage to break a paralyze effect which would deal 60k if not removed before it expires. |
| 01:51.30 | zenzelezz | foxlit: oh, I see |
| 01:51.37 | foxlit | Gah, I screwed up in my Dec 31st release :( |
| 01:51.40 | A-KO | already did foxlit |
| 01:51.41 | A-KO | thanks for that |
| 01:51.42 | A-KO | lol |
| 01:51.49 | zenzelezz | that'll be most annoying on my warrior |
| 01:51.51 | A-KO | I posted it to him in guild chat |
| 01:51.51 | A-KO | was like |
| 01:51.55 | A-KO | LOOK! I FOUND IT! |
| 01:52.05 | zenzelezz | just spamming devastate, revenge and HS or something |
| 01:52.29 | foxlit | Being a druid, I lack a purge. That's annoying sometimes |
| 01:52.48 | foxlit | Like that damn -75% damage taken shield in Grim Batol |
| 01:52.55 | mckenziemc | you have an enrage dispel now though :p |
| 01:53.22 | cbreak | you're not alone in the party. Just tell your mage to spell steal. |
| 01:53.24 | foxlit | That's kinda meh as a bear. |
| 01:53.28 | mckenziemc | true |
| 01:53.58 | foxlit | cbreak: or the shamans to purge, but it's convenient to be a warrior in that case. |
| 01:54.25 | cbreak | or priest dispell, or apparently hunter dispell... |
| 01:54.32 | zenzelezz | having been a prot warrior for years, I often don't even notice magic buffs on mobs cause they vanish so fast |
| 01:55.10 | cbreak | I bet the mages hated you on reliquary of souls :) |
| 01:55.32 | foxlit | grr, I'm going to have to back out of a nifty changeset. |
| 01:55.40 | foxlit | ALL BECAUSE OF THOSE STUPID TRADE SKILLS WITH RANKS :( |
| 01:56.02 | bluspacecow | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta-Z_psXODw |
| 01:56.04 | cbreak | branch :) |
| 01:56.27 | foxlit | Nah, screw it, macro time. |
| 01:56.48 | foxlit | Though I wonder if that actually works |
| 01:59.45 | zenzelezz | cbreak: hehe, for raid bosses I read up on stuff ;) |
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| 02:03.56 | A-KO | lol |
| 02:03.59 | A-KO | damn tank :( |
| 02:04.00 | A-KO | I was like |
| 02:04.05 | A-KO | WHY WAS HE GETTING DISPELLED |
| 02:04.08 | A-KO | we wiped like 15 times |
| 02:04.12 | A-KO | the paladin was counting |
| 02:04.23 | A-KO | aight |
| 02:04.24 | A-KO | I'm off |
| 02:04.25 | A-KO | later all |
| 02:05.46 | cbreak | bye A-KO |
| 02:20.48 | Shirik2 | lmao |
| 02:20.52 | Shirik2 | Blizzard screwed up the new year's stuff |
| 02:21.05 | Shirik2 | If you go to stormwind, you can see the tables haven't been moved since the shattering |
| 02:21.11 | Shirik2 | So they're like going through the stairs of the AH |
| 02:23.52 | airtonix | how does this make you feel? |
| 02:23.56 | cbreak | the clock on my server is 2 minutes late anyway. |
| 02:24.00 | Arrowmaster | im rather glad i dont play anymore, from everything i heard it sounds like blizzards stance on 'it will be released when its ready' didnt just go out the window but got nuked from orbit by kotick |
| 02:24.29 | airtonix | profitsLOL!!!!11111oneonefacePONY!!! |
| 02:24.29 | cbreak | cataclysm isn't that bad. I have little complaints |
| 02:24.59 | A-KO | Arrowmaster: you're correct |
| 02:25.08 | airtonix | A-KO, you're correct |
| 02:25.10 | A-KO | blizzard did slip a bit with this expansion in comparison to previous releases. |
| 02:25.20 | zenzelezz | slip? |
| 02:25.35 | airtonix | as in tumble |
| 02:25.38 | airtonix | fall over |
| 02:25.40 | zenzelezz | in what way? |
| 02:25.44 | airtonix | to mis tread on terrain |
| 02:25.52 | airtonix | falter in ambulation |
| 02:26.11 | zenzelezz | you can rephrase it however much you want, I'm still asking what they did wrong |
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| 02:28.36 | A-KO | Quests that went out bugged, not working properly, quests that are still bugged. While I couldn't find any *complete* show stoppers, they are enough to annoy and confuse people that aren't quite that bright. There are still some bugged even to this very day, especially in Vash'jir. |
| 02:29.09 | A-KO | there's that slight tint of "unpolished" if you know what you're used to from Blizzard versus other companies |
| 02:29.23 | foxlit | Yo. |
| 02:29.26 | A-KO | Blizzard's slight bit of unpolished questing is still years ahead of other companies, but still, you can notice the effects. |
| 02:29.33 | zenzelezz | well, I hear people are having trouble, but I didn't experience anything like that |
| 02:29.37 | foxlit | Other expansions: worse still? |
| 02:29.42 | A-KO | nope |
| 02:29.59 | zenzelezz | the closest I came is annoyances like "you have to do the most damage to Aeonsus" or the Glop-thing |
| 02:30.12 | A-KO | I'll give you an example. Alliance side vashj'ir quest where you ride the submarine. You can jump out the bottom, and if you make it to the cavern without being in the sub, the npcs will be there but you can't turn in the quest. |
| 02:30.18 | A-KO | You have to completely drop the quest, swim the long ass way back to the boat |
| 02:30.20 | A-KO | and pick it up again |
| 02:30.28 | A-KO | That's just one |
| 02:30.39 | zenzelezz | from personal opinion of content so far, not having done the raids in Cataclysm, my expansion list would go BC > Cataclysm > WotLK |
| 02:30.42 | foxlit | It strikes me as a case of nature inventing a better idiot. |
| 02:31.09 | Shirik2 | I dunno I think I have BC == Cata right now |
| 02:31.22 | A-KO | at least you could complete BC quests with little hitch |
| 02:31.28 | zenzelezz | A-KO: now that you mention it, I did have trouble with that sub... but I thought that was just a random crash of my client |
| 02:31.33 | foxlit | You make a quest where it's utterly impossible to fail -- and people jump out of the taxi ride. |
| 02:32.02 | A-KO | foxlit: it's not utterly impossible, right down by the NPCs in the submarine, there's a water hatch you can very easily jump down and it sucks you out of the submarine--you don't even have to swim. |
| 02:32.04 | A-KO | just jump in it |
| 02:32.06 | A-KO | woosh |
| 02:32.24 | A-KO | It is a known bug @ blizz :P so |
| 02:32.26 | A-KO | but still |
| 02:32.30 | Arrowmaster | i know BC had its issues at launch but it didnt really have any polish issues that i remember, mostly just unexpected issues |
| 02:32.39 | A-KO | to me? Knowing Blizzard's quality--that should never have been that way |
| 02:32.45 | A-KO | or the thing mentioned about the new year's stuff |
| 02:32.47 | A-KO | come on |
| 02:32.55 | A-KO | that's just dumb little mistakes |
| 02:32.58 | foxlit | A-KO: in the sense that if you're not actively doing things beyond what the quest asks of you, you can't fail it |
| 02:33.10 | foxlit | The quest says get on the sub, you get on the sub, and 3 minutes later, it completes. |
| 02:33.18 | A-KO | foxlit: It's right there in front of you, and I dunno about you, but that sub ride is a booooooooooorrriiiing ass long ride |
| 02:33.23 | A-KO | almost to the point of wondering if you did anything wrong |
| 02:34.00 | A-KO | anyways, I'm off to a NYE party--that's just one example, only reason I remember it so well is because I was talking to someone about it. |
| 02:34.03 | A-KO | But there's more :P many more. |
| 02:34.15 | A-KO | THANKFULLY I don't think I've run into any bugs that stop you from questing |
| 02:34.24 | Arrowmaster | although i guess the major polish issue i had with BC was that they didnt flag any new spells as not being shown in the combat log, so if you used an addon that poped up all actions taken by you target such as spell casting you got spammed with a ton of trigger events that were always hidden in classic |
| 02:34.28 | A-KO | but I think some people reported some weird issue on the forums about phasing and some npcs.. |
| 02:35.01 | foxlit | Some things, like the achievement quest counts, are downright sloppy, though |
| 02:35.06 | A-KO | There was only one bug I remember from vanilla, and that was "Counterattack!" in the Barrens |
| 02:36.00 | A-KO | but back then, questing didn't matter like it does now....that is, you had a lot of quests, but they had way more than enough quests and stuff to do....and not everything followed exactly a linear path, you had ridiculous amount of choice in leveling through zones. |
| 02:36.01 | zenzelezz | I swear in Cataclysm the ore node designer checked phases very carefully, and placed them just beyond the phase boundaries, to piss me off |
| 02:36.07 | A-KO | lol zenzelezz |
| 02:36.18 | A-KO | anyways, off to NYE party :P later |
| 02:54.22 | airtonix | A-KO, do NOT touch the red button |
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| 03:12.57 | Silversage | Gah. Given an item string, how do you find its socket information? |
| 03:13.36 | Adys | Silversage: third, fourth and fifth bits from the end |
| 03:14.03 | Adys | er |
| 03:14.05 | Silversage | Ay, yay, yay. |
| 03:14.06 | Adys | fourth, fifth and sixth |
| 03:14.29 | Adys | iirc its id:enchant:socket1:socket2:socket3:guid:level:reforge |
| 03:14.37 | Adys | hmm |
| 03:14.40 | Shirik2 | Apparently you don't know your guild name at PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD. Does anyone have a good idea of an event to watch? I tried GUILD_MOTD but I seem to be having the same problem. |
| 03:14.41 | Adys | there might be a socket4 in all that. |
| 03:14.52 | Shirik2 | Rather, GUILD_MOTD doesn't appear to fire on login |
| 03:15.40 | Silversage | Adys: Do you believe that contains info about the gems *in* the item, or about the gems that *could* be put into the item, or both? |
| 03:15.44 | Adys | Shirik: friendlist update |
| 03:15.49 | Adys | Shirik: it fires after guild update |
| 03:16.01 | Adys | Silversage: the ids in the itemstring are enchant ids |
| 03:16.06 | Adys | gem bonuses are just enchants |
| 03:17.08 | Adys | Silversage: cf /findenchant in http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info14774 |
| 03:17.37 | Silversage | Adys: We might be talking at cross purposes. Let's say I hover over an item in the loot window. Programmatically, how do I know how many sockets and what colors it has? |
| 03:17.39 | Silversage | Checking... |
| 03:18.05 | Shirik2 | Adys: no such luck |
| 03:18.07 | Adys | Silversage: there might be a dedicated api function for it |
| 03:18.25 | Adys | Shirik: hmm.. |
| 03:18.28 | Silversage | If so, it's not in wowwiki. |
| 03:18.28 | Adys | !api ROSTER_ |
| 03:18.29 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'ROSTER_': GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE, ARENA_TEAM_ROSTER_UPDATE, RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE, CHANNEL_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 03:18.36 | Adys | try that first one? |
| 03:18.40 | Shirik2 | hm |
| 03:19.51 | Shirik2 | there we go |
| 03:19.53 | Shirik2 | much better |
| 03:19.56 | Shirik2 | <3 |
| 03:20.00 | Adys | you love me |
| 03:20.01 | Silversage | Adys: I think Pawn is parsing the tooltip, which I'm desperately trying to avoid doing. |
| 03:20.05 | Adys | shut up madam the ambassador i know it |
| 03:20.22 | Adys | Silversage: theres a getitemstats, im pretty sure it includes sockets |
| 03:20.26 | Adys | !api itemstats |
| 03:20.26 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'itemstats': GetItemStats, GetReforgeItemStats |
| 03:20.30 | Adys | !api GetItemStats |
| 03:20.31 | lua_bot | GetItemStats: Returns a summary of an item's stat bonuses (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetItemStats) |
| 03:20.43 | Silversage | Ah. Of course. |
| 03:21.18 | Silversage | Perfect. |
| 03:24.03 | Silversage | Adys: But not, apparently, the socket bonus. :( |
| 03:24.19 | Adys | Silversage: yeah that wouldnt be there |
| 03:24.29 | Adys | socket bonuses are enchants as well |
| 03:26.44 | Silversage | Even when not activated? |
| 03:29.04 | Silversage | Adys: Context is comparing what I have in a slot with a boss drop, assuming I make maximal use of both. |
| 03:29.23 | Adys | socket bonuses can be anything |
| 03:29.29 | Adys | to be precise, anything an enchant can be |
| 03:29.52 | Adys | meaning, up to 3 of any kind between a stat bonus, an additional socket or an active spell |
| 03:30.03 | Adys | er |
| 03:30.06 | Adys | active or passive spell |
| 03:30.09 | Silversage | So ... enchanting enchants don't matter. Gem sockets do. Right, but I need to be able to decide whether to activate a gem slot or not. I'm not seeing how to get info on an unactivated socket bonus. |
| 03:30.28 | foxlit | waaaa! |
| 03:30.28 | Adys | i dont get your use case, what are you trying to do? |
| 03:30.37 | foxlit | CastSpellById and CastSpellByName have different behaviors. |
| 03:30.38 | foxlit | NERF! |
| 03:30.39 | Silversage | Adys: Context is comparing what I have in a slot with a boss drop, assuming I make maximal use of both. |
| 03:31.15 | foxlit | [Namely, CastSpellByName will cancel bear form if you try to cast it while in bear form, while CastSpellById will recast bear form... shifting you from a bear to a bear] |
| 03:31.23 | foxlit | [Which is kinda cute, but evil] |
| 03:31.27 | Adys | foxlit: lol |
| 03:35.18 | Silversage | Adys: "If I put optimal gems in this item, and the best possible enchant, and reforge it in the best possible way, could it be better than what I've got in that slot now?" (Ignoring whatever enchants or gems are currently in that slot, but again assuming I optimize the current item as well.) |
| 03:35.55 | Adys | Silversage: you're in for a long run, composed of a fair bit of tooltip parsing and large table lookups |
| 03:36.30 | Silversage | Tooltip parsing is what Pawn does. I'm trying to avoid that, since it's language-specific. |
| 03:38.07 | foxlit | You're screwed. |
| 03:38.09 | foxlit | Gems suck. |
| 03:38.13 | Silversage | I think I've got a handle on the reforging. You pointed out how to get the gem sockets. Yeah, I'll have to do some tables and heuristics for the gems (e.g., not putting uber gems in greens, etc). That leaves socket bonuses, and non-standard procs. I'm willing to ignore the procs for the time being. |
| 03:38.16 | foxlit | And the way gems are exposed to addons sucks even more. |
| 03:38.56 | Adys | what foxie said |
| 03:39.14 | Silversage | >.< |
| 03:39.31 | Adys | !api socket |
| 03:39.31 | lua_bot | Found 26 possible matches for 'socket'. Please be more specific |
| 03:39.32 | Adys | !api socketb |
| 03:39.32 | lua_bot | ClickSocketButton: Picks up or places a gem in the Item Socketing UI (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/ClickSocketButton) |
| 03:40.19 | foxlit | The easiest way forward for you would be to write a script that'd pull that data from somewhere nice and convert it to whatever format you want. |
| 03:40.36 | Silversage | Adys: Hard to use with an item from a loot window. |
| 03:41.12 | foxlit | Yo, Adys, fix Thunderfury! |
| 03:41.18 | Adys | watwat |
| 03:41.21 | foxlit | Sigrie dps doesn't match in-game dps. |
| 03:41.25 | airtonix | NOUUUUU |
| 03:41.33 | Adys | lol i actually know about that one |
| 03:41.41 | foxlit | What gives? |
| 03:41.43 | Adys | but i stopped working on sigrie a while back |
| 03:41.57 | Adys | its just something with the additional nature dmg |
| 03:42.03 | Adys | i didnt update the algo for cata |
| 03:42.26 | foxlit | The client shows it as having no additional nature damage now |
| 03:42.44 | Adys | yeah its an update issue |
| 03:42.49 | Adys | i didnt remove the fields |
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| 03:44.49 | mckenziemc | hmm, how do you modify a commit message after making the commit? i made a mistake >< |
| 03:45.17 | foxlit | The last commit? |
| 03:45.29 | mckenziemc | yeah, and it didn't get pushed to curseforge yet |
| 03:45.41 | foxlit | Assuming it's git, git commit --amend |
| 03:45.47 | mckenziemc | hg |
| 03:45.59 | mckenziemc | i meant to say TortoiseHg earlier >< |
| 03:46.02 | foxlit | hg help commit? |
| 03:48.28 | foxlit | hg rollback might be it. |
| 03:48.41 | Computerpunk | Sup. |
| 03:49.07 | Computerpunk | Fisker. |
| 03:51.51 | mckenziemc | there was a 'backout' option but i didn't want to find out what it would do to my files >< |
| 03:52.04 | mckenziemc | i had to make another commit anyway so i put an explanation in the 2nd |
| 03:59.00 | karl_w_w | I just convinced somebody that you can drown if you spend too long in the showe |
| 03:59.01 | karl_w_w | r |
| 03:59.18 | karl_w_w | should take up life as a conman |
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| 04:05.27 | airtonix | convinces karl_w_w to place his confidence in airtonix |
| 04:16.48 | karl_w_w | believes everything airtonix says |
| 04:28.41 | karl_w_w | peels grapes and feeds them to airtonix |
| 04:40.34 | Adys | I can't get over this chart |
| 04:40.36 | Adys | http://ircz.de/static/pics/2010/10/30_20_17_32/chart_nonmonogamy.pngrefnf.png |
| 04:40.40 | Adys | Im crying in laughter. |
| 05:01.14 | Ackis | happy new year you eastern bastards |
| 05:01.50 | amro | ackis is stuck in the past |
| 05:01.51 | Nobgul | Thank You Ackis, and to you also |
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| 05:34.15 | Nechckn | Adys Was that chart from like '75 or something? Thought "key parties" were like dinosaurs. |
| 05:35.06 | Adys | lol |
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| 05:39.10 | Xinhuan | where does the flightmaster in Sandy Beach for horde link to for eastern kingdoms? |
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| 05:53.28 | airtonix | flynn is the new richard stalman |
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| 05:54.13 | airtonix | :( |
| 05:54.15 | airtonix | ~ping |
| 05:54.15 | purl | ~pong |
| 05:54.41 | airtonix | ~ping |
| 05:54.41 | purl | ~pong |
| 05:55.06 | karl_w_w | ~pong |
| 05:55.06 | purl | ~ping |
| 05:55.25 | karl_w_w | seewutididthar |
| 05:55.35 | airtonix | ~8ball |
| 05:55.36 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Signs point to yes |
| 05:55.47 | karl_w_w | very wise |
| 05:56.31 | karl_w_w | hunger + laziness = more hunger |
| 05:57.53 | airtonix | 21sec latency |
| 05:58.04 | airtonix | i love copper |
| 05:58.49 | karl_w_w | your sarcasm suggests there is an alternative to copper? |
| 05:59.37 | airtonix | yeah when the rest of the world catches up with japan it will be ok |
| 06:00.39 | karl_w_w | where do you live mr tonix? |
| 06:01.25 | airtonix | in australia |
| 06:03.15 | karl_w_w | only a few years til the nbn now :P |
| 06:04.27 | Shirik2 | purl, will you sail your vessel until the river runs dry? |
| 06:05.47 | airtonix | Shirik2, No i will not |
| 06:05.55 | Adys | Shirik2: Yes, I will |
| 06:06.08 | airtonix | ~8ball |
| 06:06.09 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Better not tell you now |
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| 06:25.11 | Adys | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=68144 |
| 06:25.14 | Adys | (I love google) |
| 06:25.34 | Adys | but good to know, ive been having the error for a while and i only just thought of googling it |
| 06:26.13 | Adys | googled a google images bug happening on google chrome and found the fix on google code.. |
| 06:26.54 | karl_w_w | why would you want to use google chrome? :( |
| 06:28.06 | Adys | karl_w_w: what do you use? |
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| 06:29.37 | karl_w_w | firefox. not because it's better or less resource-hoggy or any of those incorrect reasons, but simply becuase it does what I want it to do with the addons i want |
| 06:30.05 | Adys | so why exactly would you ask "why would you want to use google chrome" |
| 06:30.12 | Adys | when you're perfectly aware of all the flaws firefox has? |
| 06:30.25 | karl_w_w | because chrome's flaws are bigger :P |
| 06:30.29 | Adys | especially given that, shocker, other people might use their browser because "it does what they want" |
| 06:31.26 | Adys | karl_w_w: i have a rule, i categorize people who dislike chrome as "trolls" and work the way back down to "regular person who has a different opinion than me". you have work to do. |
| 06:31.56 | karl_w_w | thankfully I don't |
| 06:32.49 | karl_w_w | firefox works, with problems sure, but better than chrome |
| 06:33.08 | Adys | i don't like your face and i won't tell you why |
| 06:33.38 | Adys | (hint, to be taken seriously, point out flaws instead of saying "there are problems") |
| 06:34.34 | karl_w_w | hint, it's not my life's dream to be approved of by you |
| 06:35.15 | Adys | you asked me a question, "why would you use google chrome", my answer is "because it's good" and you retort by saying that it isn't |
| 06:35.29 | karl_w_w | i didnt say that it isnt |
| 06:36.06 | karl_w_w | just ultimately pointless to come along with another browser when there are better options |
| 06:36.10 | Adys | you're not here to seek my approval, you're here to start a baseless browserwar argument, and when asked to actually explain your point of view, you derail saying that "you don't care about my approval" |
| 06:36.33 | karl_w_w | i dont dislike google, but it's clearly just google's attempt to stick their oar in |
| 06:36.33 | Adys | conclusion: i was right to categorize you as a troll from the get-go. stereotypes win once again |
| 06:40.26 | Adys | karl_w_w: (but congratulations on talking for over 7 minutes without actually saying anything; you still haven't pointed out a single flaw) |
| 06:41.27 | airtonix | Adys, PLEASE APPROVE OF ME |
| 06:41.33 | airtonix | NAAAAOOOOOO |
| 06:41.36 | amro | Shirik2: what would you recommend for handling function pointers? I'm using boost atm |
| 06:41.38 | Adys | stamps airtonix |
| 06:41.40 | Adys | done |
| 06:41.42 | |Jelly| | oh man ... i come in here to tell everyone happy new year and I'm greeted by a browser pissing contest. I use both Firefox and Chrome, I can has happy new year? <33 |
| 06:41.43 | airtonix | OMFG |
| 06:41.53 | Adys | |Jelly|: we should shower together |
| 06:42.09 | airtonix | real men use pen and paper to browse websites |
| 06:42.16 | |Jelly| | This is relevant to my interests. |
| 06:42.38 | amro | I read somewhere that stallman uses wget to browse the web |
| 06:42.40 | amro | nutcase |
| 06:43.07 | |Jelly| | And to be completely honest, I couldn't care less what browser people use so long as it's not the Facebook one; I don't even care if it's built using Chrome |
| 06:43.18 | amro | there's a facebook browser? |
| 06:43.23 | airtonix | personally i like to chisel porn onto the side of stone slabs and then tell my mate "I'm sending your rock hard porn dude",... and he's like OMFGAWESOME coz the postage is like 300$ |
| 06:43.24 | amro | ~facepalm |
| 06:43.24 | purl | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 06:43.43 | |Jelly| | http://www.allfacebook.com/rockmelt-facebook-browser-2010-11 |
| 06:44.43 | airtonix | After you give permission to access your data |
| 06:44.45 | airtonix | lol'd |
| 06:44.48 | amro | The blog also states that RockMelt promises to deliver faster search results than other browsers already available. |
| 06:44.54 | amro | since when are browsers search engines? |
| 06:45.13 | airtonix | and more lol |
| 06:45.16 | airtonix | Well...it's a lot like Flock... |
| 06:45.20 | airtonix | (Chrome with social plugins) |
| 06:45.20 | airtonix | LAWL |
| 06:45.28 | airtonix | hai flock is based on chrome |
| 06:45.50 | airtonix | thats almost as good as : HTML.. it's c++ |
| 06:46.01 | amro | what? |
| 06:46.02 | airtonix | facebook is full of awesome uni grads |
| 06:46.31 | amro | I thought facebook was about stalking current and potential exes |
| 06:46.49 | |Jelly| | And finding reasons not to hire people. |
| 06:46.56 | karl_w_w | Adys: you might find that their are a lot less trolls in the world if you simply stop assuming that everybody who disagrees with you is a troll |
| 06:46.57 | dolby | lol potential exes |
| 06:47.25 | |Jelly| | But ... everyone that disagrees with me /is/ a troll. :( |
| 06:47.36 | amro | karl_w_w: I'm with adys on this one, you went out of your way to diss a browser without any actual arguments |
| 06:47.41 | airtonix | and me too |
| 06:47.51 | amro | not that I'm interested in a browser war, but at least put effort into it |
| 06:47.51 | airtonix | you are all trolls |
| 06:48.04 | amro | but I agree with your airtronix, we are all trolls |
| 06:48.04 | Adys | karl_w_w: you might find that you'll be called a troll less often if you bother to make solid argumentation before dissing stuff :P |
| 06:48.12 | amro | does that make me a troll or not a troll? |
| 06:48.14 | Adys | also to me, potential exes are a bunch of linux apps that havent been ported yet |
| 06:48.15 | airtonix | Adys, nou |
| 06:48.31 | Adys | but maybe thats why i dont use fessebook |
| 06:48.35 | karl_w_w | how was that out of my way |
| 06:48.37 | airtonix | who is airtronix ? |
| 06:48.37 | amro | I knew you liked software Adys, but this is news to me |
| 06:48.42 | karl_w_w | i made a simple comment |
| 06:48.46 | karl_w_w | this isnt a court of a law |
| 06:48.51 | airtonix | unlike your face |
| 06:49.11 | airtonix | </-_-> |
| 06:49.13 | karl_w_w | not everything has to be long winded debate with source material and references |
| 06:49.18 | Adys | amro: karl_w_w is making a mockery of these proceedings, please remove him |
| 06:49.22 | karl_w_w | make like the sky at 6am and lighten up |
| 06:49.30 | amro | permission to treat this man as a hostile witness |
| 06:49.32 | airtonix | hoho |
| 06:50.03 | |Jelly| | Permission Granted |
| 06:50.06 | Adys | karl_w_w: only if you stop making like the wind at 7am and woosh everything i say |
| 06:50.24 | karl_w_w | wind doesnt woosh! |
| 06:50.51 | amro | thank you, my love |
| 06:51.16 | Adys | sues karl_w_w's mother |
| 06:51.25 | karl_w_w | cant do that |
| 06:52.08 | |Jelly| | Yeah .. everything that I've typed in the past couple minutes has been nothing more than feeding some kind of flamewar. |
| 06:52.08 | karl_w_w | she doesnt know anything about wooshing |
| 06:52.51 | amro | that wasn't much of a comeback |
| 06:52.59 | Adys | that was a TERRIBLE comeback. |
| 06:53.23 | Shirik2 | your mom |
| 06:53.25 | Adys | |Jelly|: you'll find that in the latest active part of this channel it's still at best 8am. people who aren't drunk or passed out are at least pretending to be |
| 06:53.52 | Shirik2 | amro: Function pointers? What do you need to manage them for? |
| 06:53.53 | airtonix | your face is a comeback |
| 06:53.55 | |Jelly| | The least you could say was she was dead or something. Jesus. |
| 06:54.06 | airtonix | or is it? |
| 06:54.20 | amro | Shirik2: currying and stuff |
| 06:54.28 | Shirik2 | but what's there to manage? |
| 06:54.36 | amro | the pointers themselves |
| 06:54.38 | karl_w_w | well she is actually, but bringing that up tends to be a buzz kill |
| 06:54.43 | amro | signatures aren't very compatible in C++ |
| 06:54.44 | Shirik2 | functions can't disappear |
| 06:54.48 | amro | oh |
| 06:54.53 | amro | you misunderstood "manage" |
| 06:55.25 | amro | I just mean to manage the types |
| 06:55.31 | |Jelly| | Isn't that kind of the point of bringing it up though? :-\ |
| 06:55.43 | amro | it's a pita to deal with pointers to memeber functions etc without some kind of lib |
| 06:55.52 | Shirik2 | I just typedef |
| 06:56.07 | Adys | lua_bot: disappear = function(f) return f(f) end; disappear(disappear) |
| 06:56.12 | lua_bot | Adys: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 06:56.13 | amro | right, but you can't pass a pointer-to-member where a pointer is expected |
| 06:56.18 | Adys | wins over Shirik2 |
| 06:56.19 | amro | you'd need an intermediate function |
| 06:56.24 | amro | or some weird shit |
| 06:56.34 | Shirik2 | that's because that's really bad |
| 06:56.41 | Shirik2 | You shouldn't be doing that |
| 06:56.52 | Shirik2 | The reason they're different is because a pointer-to-member must push the 'this' pointer onto the stack |
| 06:57.10 | amro | yep, the solution is to curry it |
| 06:57.11 | Shirik2 | You CAN pass a pointer to a static member as a function pointer |
| 06:57.14 | amro | which boost does |
| 06:57.17 | Shirik2 | I see |
| 06:57.23 | Shirik2 | I just do it manually :) |
| 06:57.28 | Shirik2 | but if boost does it then so be it |
| 06:57.39 | amro | I was just wondering if there was a better way |
| 06:57.40 | amro | hold on |
| 06:58.13 | amro | boost::bind(&Class::method, this, _1); |
| 06:58.18 | amro | stuff like that |
| 06:58.35 | Shirik2 | that seems pretty nice |
| 06:58.45 | Shirik2 | what's _1? |
| 07:00.02 | amro | the argument it takes |
| 07:01.03 | amro | it's basically boost::function<int> f = boost::bind(&Class::method, this, _1) |
| 07:01.09 | amro | you can then call f(12); |
| 07:01.35 | amro | http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_45_0/libs/bind/bind.html#with_functions |
| 07:01.40 | amro | that explains the _1 stuff |
| 07:02.50 | Adys | gnight you latenight partiers. |
| 07:05.49 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/confetti_death.jpg |
| 07:09.26 | Shirik2 | I dunno |
| 07:09.30 | Shirik2 | I don't really like boost that much |
| 07:09.36 | Shirik2 | it has a lot of neat ideas |
| 07:09.39 | Shirik2 | but that's where it ends, neat idea |
| 07:13.11 | Cairenn|afk | Happy New Year! |
| 07:14.14 | amro | Shirik2: what do you use for currying? |
| 07:14.20 | amro | Cairenn|afk: happy new year |
| 07:14.55 | Shirik2 | amro: I don't |
| 07:15.20 | amro | not ever? that can't be fun |
| 07:17.13 | Shirik2 | sure it can |
| 07:17.28 | Shirik2 | I toss around function pointers like candy :D |
| 07:17.58 | Ackis | Happy New Year you western bastards |
| 07:18.02 | Ackis | (aka me) |
| 07:18.24 | amro | oh come on that deserved some points |
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| 07:19.05 | airtonix | no |
| 07:19.12 | airtonix | your face deserved some pointers |
| 07:19.35 | airtonix | steals Shirik2s candy |
| 07:19.49 | airtonix | LEWT |
| 07:20.33 | Shirik2 | gives airtonix all the yellow starburst |
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| 07:21.40 | airtonix | you can't give something you don't have |
| 07:21.56 | airtonix | that's called invalid memory reference |
| 07:22.04 | airtonix | hoho |
| 07:22.19 | airtonix | i may have alzheimers, but at least i don't have alzheimers |
| 07:30.25 | Shirik2 | Cairenn|afk: What makes this year any more happy than the last :P |
| 07:30.38 | Cairenn|afk | I'm hoping :p |
| 07:30.49 | Shirik2 | Well |
| 07:30.53 | Shirik2 | Nothing bad has happened yet |
| 07:30.55 | Shirik2 | That's a start :P |
| 07:30.59 | Cairenn|afk | so far |
| 07:31.00 | Cairenn|afk | yup |
| 07:31.01 | airtonix | Shirik, because you cloned yourself |
| 07:31.05 | Shirik2 | lua> 2 / (365 * 24) |
| 07:31.06 | lua_bot | Shirik2: 0.00022831050228311 |
| 07:31.16 | Shirik2 | we're 0.02% done with the year already and nothing's gone wrong |
| 07:31.21 | Shirik2 | let's keep this pace |
| 07:31.32 | amro | we're doing even better this side of the globe |
| 07:31.51 | Nechckn | Happy New Yaar, Ms. Cairenn|afk - and everyone else! |
| 07:31.55 | Shirik2 | yeah you're like twice as fast as us |
| 07:32.14 | Cairenn|afk | :) |
| 07:32.17 | Cairenn|afk | hugs everyone |
| 07:32.28 | airtonix | why are you dividing by two |
| 07:32.30 | Silversage | hugs one and all. :D |
| 07:32.54 | airtonix | i mean |
| 07:33.21 | airtonix | :( |
| 07:34.23 | airtonix | it's 2am ? |
| 07:34.57 | airtonix | Shirik2, if i give you your lollies back will you answer ? |
| 07:35.17 | Shirik2 | yes it's 2 am |
| 07:37.00 | Silversage | airtonix: Are you offering lollipops to all the kids who climb into the boost with you? |
| 07:40.08 | airtonix | http://www.koushikdutta.com/search/label/Mono |
| 07:40.12 | airtonix | there you go |
| 07:46.49 | Shirik2 | no |
| 07:46.54 | Shirik2 | ok night |
| 07:54.30 | Ackis | asdf |
| 07:59.59 | amro | mono+java = my brain hurts |
| 08:09.35 | durcyn | !api GetGuildPartyState |
| 08:09.35 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetGuildPartyState'. |
| 08:09.42 | durcyn | er |
| 08:09.48 | durcyn | !api RequestGuildPartyState |
| 08:09.48 | lua_bot | RequestGuildPartyState: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/RequestGuildPartyState) |
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| 09:21.26 | Kaelten | Happy new year everyone! (know I'm late, was at a party) |
| 09:31.18 | Nobgul | Happy new year |
| 09:40.38 | airtonix | omfg |
| 09:41.12 | airtonix | i think i just found pulseaudio for android |
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| 09:49.08 | airtonix | :( |
| 09:49.20 | airtonix | http://www.androidapps.com/tech/apps/363465-remote-audio-libe# |
| 09:49.26 | airtonix | added support for padsp (because oss is deprecated on ubuntu 10.10) |
| 09:49.36 | airtonix | bug report : doesn |
| 09:49.38 | airtonix | 't work |
| 09:49.45 | airtonix | :D |
| 09:50.04 | Nobgul | isnt pulsesudio the streaming thing from linux? |
| 09:51.07 | airtonix | thats one of the things it does |
| 09:51.24 | airtonix | it's actually a mutlitplexer like jack |
| 09:51.33 | Nobgul | I think i used it once for streaming media. |
| 09:51.35 | Nobgul | ah ok |
| 09:52.09 | airtonix | yeah i use it to send all sound to my laptop (since it's closest to my head via my headphones) |
| 09:52.32 | Nobgul | I still wanna get a tablet with android. |
| 09:52.38 | Nobgul | Just need to save some cash. |
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| 10:19.28 | airtonix | http://getsatisfaction.com/larvalabs/topics/slidescreen_2_0_beta_6 |
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| 10:39.23 | airtonix | sigh |
| 10:46.36 | mikma | haste: http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2579/avisualhistorycopy.jpg |
| 10:51.31 | mikma | http://idolator.com/5724612/the-7-best-auto-tuned-songs-of-2010 |
| 10:51.37 | mikma | (loving the oprah one) |
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| 10:52.40 | mikma | also the justin bieber one is funny :D |
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| 11:01.50 | mckenziemc | i hate snow |
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| 11:03.53 | airtonix | and snow hates you |
| 11:03.59 | airtonix | that is what we call |
| 11:04.01 | airtonix | balance |
| 11:05.04 | mckenziemc | no, that is what we call |
| 11:05.06 | mckenziemc | phase change |
| 11:05.38 | mckenziemc | (snow melting from my body heat) |
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| 11:08.31 | airtonix | http://www.androidapps.com/tech/apps/347272-elkdroid-security-automation-williams-automation |
| 11:08.33 | airtonix | lol |
| 11:08.35 | airtonix | 99$ |
| 11:08.37 | airtonix | gtfo |
| 11:09.18 | karl_w_w | sets androids after airtonix |
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| 11:11.06 | mckenziemc | odd... my server is no longer responding to an SSH login attempt, but the web server is still working (so i know the firewall and server are working) |
| 11:11.13 | airtonix | hoho the cows are home |
| 11:11.15 | airtonix | fisker |
| 11:11.18 | airtonix | your time is up |
| 11:11.25 | bluspacecow | ~fiskerslap |
| 11:11.25 | purl | ACTION slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker. |
| 11:11.29 | mckenziemc | and it's in a remote connection so i can't log in : / |
| 11:11.43 | airtonix | hostdeny? |
| 11:12.24 | mckenziemc | idk what you mean so that means i probably didn't configure it :o |
| 11:12.43 | mckenziemc | i did just apply updates to it, but didn't check what any of them were >< |
| 11:12.58 | airtonix | i think you have to set itup for it to lock people out |
| 11:13.09 | airtonix | which it does after X incorrect logins |
| 11:14.32 | Nobgul | Is it windows server? |
| 11:14.55 | nevcairiel | windows servers usually dont have ssh :P |
| 11:15.03 | airtonix | hoho |
| 11:15.16 | mckenziemc | ubuntu lucid |
| 11:15.22 | Nobgul | nevcairiel, they can |
| 11:15.36 | nevcairiel | its not really useful though |
| 11:15.45 | nevcairiel | you cant do that much on windows with console only |
| 11:15.48 | airtonix | "can" being the word to describe the rarity of the occurance |
| 11:15.48 | Nobgul | Depends. On what your seeding |
| 11:15.57 | Nobgul | i mean doing |
| 11:16.06 | airtonix | reported |
| 11:16.09 | Nobgul | lol |
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| 11:16.41 | mckenziemc | hello goodbye |
| 11:16.48 | airtonix | good riddance |
| 11:17.00 | mckenziemc | lol |
| 11:19.04 | Nobgul | Anyone remember the addon for healing that has the buttons next to each unitframe for the heals |
| 11:20.14 | bluspacecow | "A polar bear is simply a rectangular bear after a coordinate transform." |
| 11:21.17 | airtonix | Nobgul, no becuase clique is better |
| 11:21.46 | airtonix | fitts law etc |
| 11:22.09 | mckenziemc | converts bluspacecow to spherical coordinates |
| 11:22.18 | Nobgul | Yer i just wanna find the addon to have a laugh |
| 11:22.19 | airtonix | omg 42d |
| 11:22.20 | bluspacecow | does that mean im now fat cow ? |
| 11:22.30 | airtonix | only certain parts |
| 11:22.31 | mckenziemc | >.> |
| 11:22.35 | airtonix | omnomnomnom |
| 11:25.20 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 11:25.24 | Fisker | i just farted |
| 11:25.30 | bluspacecow | loz |
| 11:25.31 | Fisker | do you want to know moar? |
| 11:26.10 | bluspacecow | not really |
| 11:26.11 | mckenziemc | what did it taste like |
| 11:26.29 | Fisker | it didn't |
| 11:26.31 | Fisker | but it hurt :( |
| 11:26.44 | mckenziemc | lies, i know you, you tasted it |
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| 12:09.26 | Yoshimo | how much would you say is a chaos orb worth? |
| 12:17.41 | Thrae | Yoshimo: Totally depends on the server really. |
| 12:18.08 | Thrae | But wait...are they BoE now? |
| 12:18.59 | Yoshimo | no they arent, but i have no idea how much to pay the blacksmith ;) |
| 12:19.18 | Thrae | Ahhh |
| 12:19.45 | Thrae | Well it's not like you can trade the item to them, so the Orb itself has no market value. |
| 12:20.33 | Thrae | Instead, I would say there's market value in the actual tradeable item it creates. |
| 12:21.22 | Fisker | Thrae |
| 12:21.34 | nevcairiel | I dont think it works like that. Healer items in particular are usually not so high in market value, yet they need the same amount of orbs. Why would a leather crafter sell you his orbs for less when you're a healer? |
| 12:21.53 | Yoshimo | if i supply all other materials i still need to pay for the orb id say :) |
| 12:22.03 | nevcairiel | He usually has a specific price in mind for his orbs |
| 12:22.07 | nevcairiel | no matter what item you get |
| 12:22.11 | Thrae | I would use the market price of the BoE item created by a Chaos Orb in factoring in what the Chaos Orb itself is worth. |
| 12:22.27 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Hmm, good point. So use the highest price then. |
| 12:23.08 | Thrae | If X is the highest priced crafted item and there is a decent market for X, use X as the factor. |
| 12:24.12 | Thrae | Take that item and subtract the cost of all AH mats to get around what the Chaos Orb would be worth if it was tradeable. |
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| 12:25.22 | Venko | Hey guys, I don't suppose anyone could tell me if Minion is working for them? I'm using Windows 7 64bit and as far as I can tell I installed it correctly. JAR files are correctly being opened by Java Platform SE Binary also |
| 12:27.01 | Thrae | Venko: It works for me. I use 32-bit Java instead of 64-bit. It didn't work right away on 64-bit Java. |
| 12:27.11 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/doomhammer/negraw/advanced <-oh i saw what he did there |
| 12:27.29 | Venko | Thrae: I'm using 32-bit Java too |
| 12:27.37 | Venko | I can't work out why it won't work >.< |
| 12:28.02 | Venko | I've tried manually launching it over cmd.exe and get no output |
| 12:29.35 | Venko | Funny question but... would it fail to launch without any addons present? I've no addons at present whatsoever lol |
| 12:30.04 | Thrae | Venko: Well Minion does have a 64-bit version too. Make sure you're downloading the 32-bit version. Also make sure that if you're opening it with javaw.exe in Program Files (x86) and not java or javaw in Program Files. |
| 12:30.51 | Thrae | Venko: If you have both 32-bit and 64-bit Java installed, depending on which was installed first your file associations may have .jar opened with 64-bit java. |
| 12:31.25 | Thrae | Windows will confusingly show "Java(tm) Platform SE Binary" twice for each version |
| 12:32.18 | Venko | Indeed it does. I just verified that it's using the 86 version of javaw.exe |
| 12:35.11 | Venko | It's now working as intended and is my fault |
| 12:35.39 | Venko | Java installs an annoying auto-updater which I prevented from running on startup. Evidently my version was too out-of-date to run Minion |
| 12:36.15 | Venko | Thanks for your help, Thrae :) |
| 12:36.37 | Thrae | Venko: Ah, there you go |
| 12:36.52 | Thrae | Yeah I was about to say...also I can't seem to start it up from the command line |
| 12:36.59 | Thrae | looks at file associations |
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| 12:38.47 | Venko | What's a decent, Cata-compatible bag managing addon? I'm seeking to automatically sort things into secetions (e.g. junk, gear, consumables, key items, quest) |
| 12:38.56 | Thrae | Combuctor |
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| 12:40.58 | Thrae | Actually it looks like I was using the 64-bit version of Java to open the 32-bit version of Minion |
| 12:42.05 | Thrae | Or maybe...the Windows registry is still confusing. |
| 12:44.11 | Venko | What are people considering the "essential" addons nowadays that I can't get by without? I've been trying to use the default UI but the bags were driving me nuts. |
| 12:44.36 | Thrae | It really, really depends on your preferences. |
| 12:45.05 | Thrae | There are addons people find make both questing and raiding easier for them. |
| 12:45.08 | nevcairiel | i cant live without a one-bag type addon, everything else is just bonus |
| 12:45.27 | nevcairiel | oh, and i hate how using ToL changes the default action bars =P |
| 12:46.04 | Thrae | Questing I would say LightHeaded, Raiding I would say some other type of raid frames than Blizzard's, if you're a healer or tank. |
| 12:46.36 | Thrae | PerfectRaid and oUF_Freebgrid are my current favourites for raiding. |
| 12:46.43 | Venko | Well I'm aiming to be a tankadin :) I was in WotLK but have taken a break and hear things have changed a lot |
| 12:47.52 | Thrae | For threat, Omen still works well, as does ThreatPlates (from TidyPlates). And if you like to use your mouse I would say Clique is very powerful too. |
| 12:48.20 | Venko | Thanks for mentioning ThreatPlates. I used to use that and will again now |
| 12:49.14 | Thrae | Using "Hovercast" with a macro like "[@mouseovertarget, harm, nodead] Your Class's Taunt; Your Class's Taunt" is very cool |
| 12:49.33 | Thrae | Insert a /cast in there of course |
| 12:49.43 | Fisker | Thrae my man |
| 12:49.57 | Thrae | Fisker: whaaaaat |
| 12:51.48 | mckenziemc | @project liboop |
| 12:51.50 | Repo | mckenziemc: http://www.wowace.com/addons/liboop/. LibOOP. Game: WoW. taleden (Manager/Author). Updated: 521 days ago |
| 12:52.21 | Thrae | Gah, I hope that's not what I think it is |
| 12:52.30 | nevcairiel | its very old |
| 12:52.36 | jnwhiteh | has anyone written an dig site arrow for TomTom/TTL yet? |
| 12:52.41 | Fisker | yes |
| 12:52.45 | nevcairiel | Archy can use tomtom |
| 12:52.48 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 12:52.55 | jnwhiteh | !addon Archy |
| 12:52.57 | lua_bot | Archy (v. 1.5.3) last updated Sun Dec 12 22:02 (http://is.gd/jTtBr) |
| 12:53.01 | mikma | archy has quite harsh implation |
| 12:53.06 | mikma | it doesn't allow you to use other waypoints |
| 12:53.08 | Thrae | Ah OK, it's an alternative for AceOO |
| 12:53.14 | mikma | it always forces the arrow to digsite when you move |
| 12:53.14 | nevcairiel | @describe archy |
| 12:53.15 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/archy/. Archy - Archaeology Assistant. Archaeology assistant |
| 12:53.32 | evolution_laptop | yeah that's really annoying |
| 12:53.35 | nevcairiel | so turn it off when you're not digging :P |
| 12:53.41 | mikma | i do |
| 12:53.45 | nevcairiel | its one click on the ldb thingy |
| 12:53.53 | mikma | loldb, i don't have any |
| 12:53.56 | jnwhiteh | looked at the code? |
| 12:54.09 | Fisker | the new ui is kinda annoying too |
| 12:54.25 | jnwhiteh | it'll go in TTL |
| 12:54.26 | nevcairiel | its just the old ui with a background, but yeah, the addon needs some more work :P |
| 12:54.27 | jnwhiteh | in like 3 years |
| 12:54.30 | jnwhiteh | when I'm caught up |
| 12:54.37 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info19075-stArchaeologist.html |
| 12:54.37 | jnwhiteh | small and simple |
| 12:54.49 | mikma | this has potential ^^ |
| 12:54.53 | Fisker | nevcairiel the old was basically just text |
| 12:54.58 | Fisker | á la pvp objectives |
| 12:55.05 | Fisker | and you could click/rightclick to solve |
| 12:55.10 | Fisker | it was awesome |
| 12:55.33 | jnwhiteh | okay, let me do this right |
| 12:55.41 | nevcairiel | i never got the need for a list of projects |
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| 12:56.06 | mikma | jnwhiteh: feel refreshed? |
| 12:56.14 | nevcairiel | but then, i'm skill maxxed, and the only item i still want is from tolvir, which sucks |
| 12:56.21 | mikma | nevcairiel: aye. |
| 12:56.30 | jnwhiteh | Happy New Year! |
| 12:56.34 | jnwhiteh | Yes, given that I've been 'away' since the 14th.. and actually away since the 22nd |
| 12:56.45 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: my office machine is shut down =( |
| 12:56.49 | mikma | jnwhiteh: how was home? |
| 12:56.49 | jnwhiteh | i'll bring it back up soon |
| 12:57.59 | Venko | Thrae: Which version of ThreatPlates do you have? There's at least 3 on wowinterface and I have no idea which works |
| 12:58.03 | Thrae | jnwhiteh: Happy New Year :) |
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| 12:58.16 | Fisker | back in the UK then jnwhiteh ? |
| 12:58.20 | Thrae | Venko: The main site for ThreatPlates is on wow.curse.com, which is where I get mine. |
| 12:58.24 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: for like three days |
| 12:58.29 | jnwhiteh | then off to mikma =) |
| 12:58.36 | mikma | \o/ |
| 12:58.45 | Fisker | finland? |
| 12:58.47 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i must warn you, we do have shitloads of snow |
| 12:59.00 | jnwhiteh | yay |
| 12:59.25 | bluspacecow | snow is good for snoballs |
| 12:59.29 | bluspacecow | and also down pants |
| 12:59.40 | bluspacecow | makes it very interesting when you do it by suprise |
| 12:59.40 | Fisker | did you get a nexus s then jnwhiteh ? |
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| 12:59.49 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 12:59.56 | jnwhiteh | but my nexus one is broken again |
| 13:00.00 | jnwhiteh | ?> |
| 13:00.01 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 13:00.02 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:00.11 | Fisker | they actually gave the nexus s an "ok" price in the UK |
| 13:00.17 | Fisker | dumped it by £130 |
| 13:00.31 | airtonix | unlike your face |
| 13:00.34 | jnwhiteh | oh wow |
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| 13:02.23 | airtonix | yeah jnwhiteh |
| 13:02.30 | airtonix | you need to reduce the price of your face |
| 13:02.35 | jnwhiteh | damn |
| 13:02.40 | jnwhiteh | not sure when i'll have time for that |
| 13:02.56 | airtonix | its easy |
| 13:03.02 | Fisker | they're jerks though jnwhiteh |
| 13:03.06 | Fisker | they only ship to the UK |
| 13:03.16 | airtonix | just log onto http://yourfaceprice.com/user/jnwhiteh |
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| 13:11.05 | harl | hi |
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| 13:12.28 | airtonix | ~8ball |
| 13:12.29 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Most likely |
| 13:12.41 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 13:12.54 | Fisker | someone was doing the transmute mastery quest |
| 13:13.06 | Amarande | Fisker: seems like *everyone* goes transmute now |
| 13:13.08 | Fisker | and i told him he could do the cheaper/easier ones and then just pay 150g for respeccing |
| 13:13.13 | Fisker | hurr hurr |
| 13:13.17 | airtonix | kek |
| 13:13.36 | Amarande | on my horde server, we were having trouble finding an elixir master the other day |
| 13:13.45 | Amarande | because everyone apparently went transmute for the truegold |
| 13:13.52 | jnwhiteh | <-- guilty |
| 13:13.59 | jnwhiteh | but I'd respec in a second if my guild needed me to |
| 13:14.00 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 13:14.11 | Fisker | do we even need one once we get cauldrons? |
| 13:14.16 | airtonix | no |
| 13:14.18 | Amarande | Fisker: I think a lot of people don't realize that BM doesn't need attunement anymore |
| 13:14.28 | Amarande | which means people still aren't going for Elixir much these days |
| 13:14.37 | Fisker | they're both easier and cheaper than transmutation |
| 13:14.42 | Amarande | since it used to take *forever* to get a queue for BM if you didn't have people around to give you a hand at the time |
| 13:15.02 | Amarande | I can't remember which dungeon the Potion one took. :S |
| 13:15.12 | jnwhiteh | Sethekk? |
| 13:15.23 | jnwhiteh | I have ignored all my comments and tickets since the 22nd. |
| 13:15.26 | jnwhiteh | This makes me feel good |
| 13:15.28 | Fisker | the botanist instance of tempest keep :P |
| 13:15.31 | Amarande | but nobody goes potion spec anymore, since potions have pretty much lost their luster since LK. |
| 13:15.34 | Fisker | can't recall what it was called |
| 13:15.37 | Amarande | Botanica. |
| 13:15.37 | jnwhiteh | I should do this more often. |
| 13:15.42 | Amarande | or "Bot" as everyone always called it |
| 13:15.47 | Fisker | oh wow Amarande |
| 13:15.56 | Amarande | Fisker, I was around for BC, I remember such things :) |
| 13:16.15 | Fisker | i've been around since classic |
| 13:16.26 | airtonix | no |
| 13:16.33 | Amarande | I suppose it could be that truegold transmutes are probably the only real money maker for alchemists now, too |
| 13:16.40 | Amarande | or will be, once the price of flasks drops from its current hundreds of gold per |
| 13:16.50 | airtonix | money maker as in the thing you get to rape the market with |
| 13:16.58 | airtonix | everything makes you money |
| 13:17.02 | Amarande | airtonix: pretty much every crafting profession needs one |
| 13:17.10 | airtonix | lazy prat |
| 13:17.20 | airtonix | you no chinaman |
| 13:17.21 | Amarande | especially to keep up with the fact that LW/BS get to charge four digits a pop for Chaos Orb use, which you can't get around because the orbs are BoP so THEY control the market |
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| 13:17.42 | Amarande | (Engineers too, but that's only if you want the bow, since all the other Chaos Orb items for Engineering are the BoP goggles) |
| 13:18.11 | Amarande | Scribes were always good moneymakers, and they have lottery tickets to sell now |
| 13:18.18 | airtonix | real wow players farm 26hrs a day |
| 13:18.28 | Amarande | Tailors have their BoP Dreamcloth that they get to control the market on without any AH influence |
| 13:18.37 | airtonix | real wow players don't place a gp/hr price on their time |
| 13:18.51 | Amarande | Enchanters and JCs don't have to worry about making money, everyone needs enchants and gems every gear upgrade |
| 13:18.54 | airtonix | reeeeal wow players use colostomy bags |
| 13:19.04 | Amarande | and from what I've seen, you're going to need to max enchant your blues now too, since heroics are THAT hard right now |
| 13:19.14 | airtonix | ~monologue |
| 13:19.18 | foxlit | "you're going to need to max enchant your blues now too" << utter bullshit. |
| 13:19.21 | Amarande | in LK, I really didn't enchant much (though I did gem) pre-raid |
| 13:19.30 | airtonix | ~purl monologue is a boring thing |
| 13:19.30 | purl | okay, airtonix |
| 13:19.52 | Amarande | yeah, from what I'm gathering it's really not the difficulty of heroics that people are QQing about so much now |
| 13:19.55 | Amarande | it's more the time issue |
| 13:20.02 | Amarande | which, I guess, is a side effect of the difficulty, it could be argued. |
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| 13:20.14 | zenzelezz | "Macworld summarizes findings first reported by Engadget. Apparently a bug in the iPhone clock app prevents non-recurring alarms from properly triggering on New Years day. " - didn't they just have this same problem when DST ticked? |
| 13:20.30 | Amarande | People got used to the idea that in LK, if you had a limited amount of time to play, you could still do a couple heroics in a short time. |
| 13:20.30 | airtonix | isn't that old ? |
| 13:20.51 | foxlit | I think I recall Microsoft having that issue last year. |
| 13:20.56 | Amarande | Now a lot of casuals are complaining that they need to have full-time raider hour commitments simply in order to have the time to do a heroic a day, between the queue time and the amount of time lost in wipes, plus the amount of time the instance just plain takes |
| 13:21.01 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: anything changed with healing? |
| 13:21.36 | Amarande | and that Blizzard is ignoring them in order to use Cata to regain the hardcore customer base that canceled when they got bored of Wrath |
| 13:21.45 | Venko | Wait just one second. When did MOLL-E become bind on use? |
| 13:21.55 | Amarande | Venko: doesn't it still require Engineering, anyway? |
| 13:21.59 | foxlit | Whee, that's better. I was trying to ignore that mentally, and it did not work :( |
| 13:22.01 | airtonix | qqmoar |
| 13:22.12 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 13:22.29 | Venko | Amarande: Ah yeah, so it does. I don't want them taking away the perks of engineering phew |
| 13:22.33 | airtonix | devotion can not be ignored |
| 13:22.33 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: that amused me :P |
| 13:22.35 | foxlit | http://www.zdnet.com.au/zune-clock-flaw-leaves-new-year-hangover-339293995.htm |
| 13:22.55 | Amarande | Venko: it was actually pretty standard in vanilla, in particular, for even major engineering items not to be BoP |
| 13:23.00 | airtonix | my android phone is a gift from god |
| 13:23.06 | jnwhiteh | so I have been gone since December 14th. |
| 13:23.07 | airtonix | and therefore perfect |
| 13:23.09 | Amarande | but they almost all required the level of Engineering it took to create them, so there was no real market for them anyway unless it was a rare recipe |
| 13:23.14 | jnwhiteh | What massive Wow/Addon changes happened? |
| 13:23.26 | foxlit | nothing. |
| 13:23.27 | Amarande | jnwhiteh: well, you have one day left to do your Winter Veil stuff |
| 13:23.35 | jnwhiteh | not doing em |
| 13:23.53 | jnwhiteh | the 18.5MB patch was to catch the client up with all the hotfixes, I assume? |
| 13:24.01 | Amarande | zenzelezz: it's probably a good thing that New Year's Day is a Saturday this year, then. |
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| 13:24.09 | Amarande | otherwise, there'd probably be a lot of angry workers and bosses |
| 13:24.11 | airtonix | yeah to cover the exploit you left your bot using |
| 13:24.24 | foxlit | You know, I didn't actually notice a patch |
| 13:24.38 | zenzelezz | Amarande: there still are a lot of angry people, but yes, not as many |
| 13:24.38 | foxlit | And GetBuildInfo still claims Nov 17 2010 |
| 13:24.42 | Amarande | foxlit: I expect with the new launcher updater system, there probably will be far fewer patches |
| 13:24.46 | foxlit | so I'm guessing that was a tools thing |
| 13:25.01 | Amarande | myself, I was woken up early this morning because I have a cold and I was coughing and blowing my nose too much to stay asleep |
| 13:25.03 | jnwhiteh | possibly yeah |
| 13:25.52 | airtonix | Amarande, you should kick the cocaine habit |
| 13:26.30 | Amarande | LOL |
| 13:26.52 | Amarande | dude, I don't even drink caffeine anymore unless it's the occasional chocolate milkshake. :S |
| 13:27.14 | airtonix | keep telling yourself that |
| 13:35.24 | zenzelezz | I never drink caffeine |
| 13:35.32 | zenzelezz | just consume it indirectly through other drinks |
| 13:35.58 | nevcairiel | no-one drinks caffeine directly, its always in some drink |
| 13:36.29 | zenzelezz | surely that joke was obvious |
| 13:36.29 | airtonix | you're new to the 21st century |
| 13:36.46 | airtonix | welcome to the future |
| 13:36.53 | airtonix | were there are robots |
| 13:37.15 | airtonix | and other words like where |
| 13:37.51 | zenzelezz | you seem confused |
| 13:37.56 | zenzelezz | were there or are there robot? |
| 13:38.04 | bluspacecow | 18.5 mb 2104 tools patch was meant to fix the endless applying of non critical updates due to having phantom enries in wow.mfil for a few mpq files that were no longer needed |
| 13:40.34 | Amarande | I pretty much entirely drink non-caffeine or decaf tea and water now. |
| 13:40.45 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 13:41.20 | airtonix | religious freak |
| 13:41.42 | bluspacecow | ...... |
| 13:41.53 | bluspacecow | okays i has to set my feral drood bars up again |
| 13:42.00 | Fisker | aww |
| 13:42.03 | Fisker | they removed oldworld :( |
| 13:42.07 | bluspacecow | been using some weird setup i had for my healer |
| 13:42.11 | Amarande | zenzelezz: because sugary caffeine beverages tend not to do me good. |
| 13:42.14 | bluspacecow | y spec |
| 13:42.18 | Amarande | I used to drink soda all the time, that wasn't so good for me :) |
| 13:42.43 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 13:42.47 | Amarande | ok, on the addon topic btw. anyone know if ogri'lazy still works? |
| 13:42.47 | Thrae | I still drink a lot of soda, but it's diet non-caffeinated. |
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| 13:43.01 | Amarande | I'd like to actually be able to rep up with Ogri'la so I might actually be able to get Merrymaker next year. :P |
| 13:43.01 | airtonix | i drink a litre of coffee every day |
| 13:43.31 | airtonix | well it's actually water flavoured coffee |
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| 13:44.06 | bluspacecow | bluspacecow test |
| 13:44.13 | airtonix | bluspacecow fail |
| 13:44.13 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 13:44.24 | bluspacecow | had notification sounds too high in colloquy |
| 13:44.25 | airtonix | my condolences |
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| 13:44.53 | Fisker | what shitty client would trigger notifications from yourself? |
| 13:44.57 | Fisker | oh wait you just told me |
| 13:45.05 | Fisker | i guess it's some mac shit as well |
| 13:45.06 | airtonix | ~fiskerfail |
| 13:45.11 | bluspacecow | when someone says my name |
| 13:45.14 | Fisker | only mac users would need notifications when they were talking to themselves |
| 13:45.18 | airtonix | Naomi? |
| 13:45.20 | bluspacecow | it makes a sound and highlights a cha |
| 13:45.28 | bluspacecow | say my name fisker |
| 13:45.36 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 13:45.40 | bluspacecow | ty |
| 13:45.44 | bluspacecow | ahhhh bliss |
| 13:45.51 | bluspacecow | the sound was hurting my ears :( |
| 13:45.57 | airtonix | you asked for it |
| 13:46.45 | jnwhiteh | okay. archy errors every freaking time I mouse over the ldb feed.. because his acelocale is strict |
| 13:46.49 | jnwhiteh | nubs =( |
| 13:47.00 | jnwhiteh | gief me easier archaeology/tomtom arrow. |
| 13:47.03 | Fisker | mine doesn't |
| 13:47.17 | bluspacecow | i use 1.6 and im pretty sure mine doesn't |
| 13:47.18 | Fisker | i'm using the beta though |
| 13:47.24 | bluspacecow | i dont like 1.7 :( |
| 13:47.29 | bluspacecow | icons too big |
| 13:47.42 | Fisker | yeah |
| 13:47.44 | Fisker | i liked the old ui |
| 13:47.56 | Fisker | and survey indicator through tomtom |
| 13:48.04 | Fisker | double-rightclick to survey is neat though |
| 13:48.17 | bluspacecow | he said he would put in an option for the old UI ... going to wait till 1.7is out of beta |
| 13:48.26 | jnwhiteh | why do you need all the ui? |
| 13:48.29 | jnwhiteh | does any of that matter? |
| 13:48.52 | bluspacecow | *shrug* |
| 13:48.53 | Fisker | just shows your progress |
| 13:48.56 | bluspacecow | i like all the UI |
| 13:49.02 | jnwhiteh | i can open the window on my own =) |
| 13:49.02 | Fisker | and lets you solve artifacts easy |
| 13:49.07 | bluspacecow | makes me feel like an engineer |
| 13:49.12 | jnwhiteh | again, not difficult to do as it is. |
| 13:49.16 | Fisker | i can walk 10 miles to work as well |
| 13:49.19 | Fisker | still not going to |
| 13:49.49 | jnwhiteh | hardly the same magnitude |
| 13:49.52 | jnwhiteh | fartknocked. |
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| 13:50.26 | Fisker | you're right jnwhiteh |
| 13:50.40 | Fisker | my example was far less compared to the UI |
| 13:50.50 | Fisker | since we're probably talking factors of thousands of saving time |
| 13:50.57 | Fisker | compared to walking/taking the bus/driving/etc. |
| 13:51.44 | Amarande | *w00t.* |
| 13:51.51 | Amarande | my very first time getting Crocolisks in the City on this character |
| 13:51.55 | Amarande | and I get Chuck's Bucket |
| 13:52.04 | Fisker | i wish there was an API for checking dailies |
| 13:52.07 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:52.13 | Fisker | don't want to go there anymore |
| 13:53.28 | Amarande | And the Stormchops recipe from the Shattrath cooking daily. |
| 13:53.40 | Amarande | The only way this could get better is if I get the Delicious Chocolate Cake recipe from the Dalaran cooking daily ... |
| 13:54.54 | Fisker | they drop from both |
| 13:55.00 | Fisker | and lol'd over you haven't gotten it yet |
| 13:55.07 | Fisker | got mine on like the first day or so |
| 13:55.37 | Amarande | Fisker: this toon's only been 70 for a couple of days. first opportunity at the crocolisk. |
| 13:55.54 | Fisker | lala? |
| 13:56.05 | Fisker | also crocolisks are 100% drop chance now |
| 13:56.41 | Amarande | the previous two cooking dailies gave Rumsey's Lager and Kibler's Bits |
| 13:57.27 | Amarande | btw, can the crocolisk quest still be used by alliance to cheap out on Fishing Diplomat? |
| 13:57.35 | Fisker | no |
| 13:58.28 | Amarande | I know they fixed it so the wrathgate quest couldn't be used to get Old Crafty, but the last Wowhead comments I'd seen said that it could still be used to fish a crocolisk and thus get credit for fishing in Org |
| 13:58.33 | cbreak | http://events.ccc.de/congress/2010/Fahrplan/events/4018.en.html, very interesting |
| 13:58.39 | Amarande | I guess they must have nerfed that, too. |
| 13:58.59 | Amarande | Not sure why I'd bother with those two achievements, anyway, seeing as I won't be in the running for Salty for a very long time on this server. |
| 13:59.14 | zenzelezz | well I have no idea whether you can, but why would you want to cheat? Half the fun is getting there |
| 13:59.36 | Amarande | zenzelezz: is there still a spot you can fish in Org without aggroing guards or being super visible to players looking for an easy HK? |
| 13:59.45 | Amarande | I haven't really read much about fishing in New Orgrimmar |
| 13:59.57 | zenzelezz | Amarande: no idea, haven't done it since 4.x |
| 14:00.37 | Amarande | It's certainly harder than IF or SW fishing for Horde, since SW you can get from the moat if memory serves, and IF fishing is generally rather peaceful once you actually manage to *get* to the cavern |
| 14:01.45 | Amarande | But yeah. Salty isn't gonna happen for a loooong time for me on this mage. |
| 14:02.28 | Amarande | Even though Mages probably actually have at least in theory a significant edge for getting that title over any other class. |
| 14:02.39 | zenzelezz | how come? |
| 14:02.49 | airtonix | qqpower |
| 14:02.51 | Amarande | zenzelezz: spell haste can save you a few precious seconds getting back to Dala for the Kalu'ak one |
| 14:03.00 | Amarande | since Teleport is affected by it and Hearthstones are not |
| 14:03.08 | zenzelezz | oh, I see |
| 14:04.52 | airtonix | but do you ? |
| 14:06.40 | Amarande | Of course, I'm not sure how popular the Kalu'ak fishing event even is these days |
| 14:06.58 | Amarande | Given the de-emphasization of Northrend, I wouldn't be surprised if nearly *all* the people who bother with that one are mages now. :) |
| 14:07.22 | olafski | I think you'd be sorely underestimating that :P |
| 14:07.51 | Amarande | olafski: well, only mages can really get to Northrend readily now. plus if you're not a mage, to have a chance you basically *have to* put your hearth back in Dala |
| 14:07.55 | airtonix | i tried |
| 14:08.03 | olafski | your point amarande? |
| 14:08.09 | Amarande | which means you get to have fun flying back up north from Tanaris afterwards :) |
| 14:08.11 | olafski | there are only 52 weeks in a year and 2 tournaments |
| 14:08.18 | airtonix | that his face is more awesome that yours ? |
| 14:08.19 | olafski | bet on it that there are enough achievement whores to try each week |
| 14:08.26 | cbreak | I have a steady income stream opening dalaran portals |
| 14:08.36 | cbreak | (steady but small, compared to the sw portals) |
| 14:08.52 | zenzelezz | your give small portals? |
| 14:09.00 | airtonix | i had a your once |
| 14:09.06 | zenzelezz | jesus, my typing's all off today |
| 14:09.07 | airtonix | had little green legs |
| 14:09.17 | airtonix | and five round doors across the left side |
| 14:09.26 | airtonix | great for storing drugs |
| 14:09.30 | Amarande | Heh, I'm not sure about that. Couple weeks ago I got the Gurubashi Arena Master achievement *completely unopposed* on my DK. And it was either 9PM or midnight on an EST server, so probably around server peak, too. |
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| 14:10.29 | Amarande | I happened to be around doing that digsite right around the time when the trinket chest pops. I'm like ... "ok, hmm, maybe I can sneak this while everyone's all busy with cata content." And sure enough nobody else even showed up. |
| 14:10.38 | olafski | arena master does not give a title nor does it only happen once a week |
| 14:10.53 | Amarande | I rather expected to die, since the last time I thought I could snag the trinket while everyone else was busy was during the zombie event pre-LK which seemed to occupy everyone, and I died. :P |
| 14:11.24 | Amarande | olafski: it's still popular among achievement addicts |
| 14:12.07 | olafski | could also just be luck, I got that trinket on my shaman who was level 31, also unopposed.. somewhere during the last few months of wotlk |
| 14:12.20 | Amarande | (Not to mention for the other related achievement you need to do it 12 times.) |
| 14:12.29 | Amarande | yeah, possibly luck |
| 14:12.38 | Amarande | I seem to have a lot of that in WoW lately, either that or they upped the drop rate of outland blues |
| 14:13.08 | olafski | besides, it's not as if dalaran is so much harder to get to than STV |
| 14:13.49 | cbreak | dalaran's just a jump away :) |
| 14:14.05 | cbreak | there's a direct boat from sw to northrend too |
| 14:14.05 | Amarande | the part about mages having a significant edge in the Kalu'ak tournament is surely true, though |
| 14:14.15 | cbreak | (and most alliance seem to use sw as hub nowadays) |
| 14:14.15 | olafski | I say meh |
| 14:14.22 | Amarande | possibly shouldn't be talked about too much, either, lest they nerf Teleport to no longer benefit from spell haste |
| 14:14.24 | olafski | teleport to tournament, set HS in dalaran, get fish, HS |
| 14:14.29 | olafski | then use your guild cloak to get back to SW/Org |
| 14:14.51 | Amarande | might be a little less of a benefit now than before, though |
| 14:15.23 | Amarande | back in LK, most people tended to put their hearth in their faction inn rather than Legerdemain because the port-in lag in Legerdemain was usually even more intolerable, to my recollection |
| 14:15.48 | zenzelezz | I never noticed a difference |
| 14:15.49 | olafski | people actually considered putting their HS in legerdemain? |
| 14:15.52 | Amarande | and I'd suspect the teleport spot in Dala is closer to the contest guy than either faction inn ... |
| 14:15.59 | zenzelezz | my HS was always in Legerdemain |
| 14:16.05 | Amarande | olafski: I think it is closest to the contest guy, at least |
| 14:16.08 | olafski | the alliance inn is right next to the contest guy isn't it? :s |
| 14:16.15 | olafski | legerdemain is on the exact opposite side |
| 14:16.29 | Amarande | I *think* the contest guy is in the fountain area in the middle of the city? |
| 14:16.38 | olafski | oh.. I thought next to the fishing trainer |
| 14:16.38 | Amarande | which would put it near Legerdemain, and further from the Alliance or Horde inns |
| 14:16.51 | Fisker | can google search through the source code of a site btw? |
| 14:17.24 | Amarande | oh wtf that's odd, according to wowhead he's in *both* spots |
| 14:17.29 | olafski | :P |
| 14:19.17 | airtonix | the lord is vast, incomprehensible |
| 14:25.55 | Amarande | although there's a bunch of stuff with old and new data stacked in wowhead |
| 14:28.37 | Amarande | and since I'm never actually *home* at 2PM on Saturdays server time on this server, I can't actually check which of the three spots marked he's actually in now :) |
| 14:28.50 | Amarande | he's mentioned as being by the fishing trainer, by the fountain, and in the Violet Citadel |
| 14:30.07 | Amarande | since by the fishing trainer was his initial location, I'm guessing one of the other two but I can't be sure which. |
| 14:30.27 | Amarande | (and that he was probably moved because having him by the fishing trainer basically guaranteed an Alliance winner every week for the Derby) |
| 14:30.31 | Computerpunk | Sup and happy new year. May this year bring Botting AddOns. |
| 14:31.37 | airtonix | hear hear |
| 14:42.24 | airtonix | Computerpunk, have you performed open heart surgery under fire? |
| 14:42.43 | Computerpunk | Yes, and it failed. |
| 14:42.57 | airtonix | yeah it's stressful |
| 14:43.15 | Computerpunk | So, basically I killed a man. |
| 14:43.41 | airtonix | he was already dead |
| 14:43.45 | airtonix | don't blame yourself |
| 14:43.58 | airtonix | i mean |
| 14:44.12 | Computerpunk | I still feel bad. |
| 14:44.15 | airtonix | when fiskers dad starts a charge through a minefield screaming |
| 14:44.25 | airtonix | KILL THE DOGS! KILL EM ALL! |
| 14:44.45 | airtonix | he's pretty much already got a fat target on his chest |
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| 14:49.40 | zenzelezz | http://comixed.memebase.com/2010/12/30/4-koma-comic-strip-incuption/ |
| 14:49.48 | Fisker | awww how sweet |
| 14:49.53 | Fisker | i got my very first stalker |
| 14:51.09 | Fisker | it's like i turn around to see him with a set of binoculars and a listening device and he goes like "I'm not stalking you!" |
| 14:54.51 | airtonix | im not though |
| 14:55.30 | airtonix | you're just in the middle of a rare bird migration |
| 14:56.36 | Fisker | not you! |
| 14:56.56 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1417585741 |
| 14:57.09 | Fisker | a few minutes after i wrote my post someone created a warrior to post a wall of text bitching |
| 14:57.14 | Fisker | then he logged out and deleted his character |
| 14:57.17 | Fisker | suuuure it wasn't him |
| 14:57.18 | Fisker | suuuure |
| 14:57.34 | Fisker | sucks to be him when he finds out that hiding behind alts doesn't work with GM's :/ |
| 14:58.22 | airtonix | tame |
| 14:58.38 | Fisker | btw Nechckn |
| 14:58.39 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 14:59.03 | airtonix | fictive, |
| 14:59.07 | nevcairiel | Fisker |
| 14:59.07 | airtonix | your are |
| 14:59.08 | Fisker | you're the german here |
| 14:59.15 | airtonix | oh hoho |
| 14:59.18 | Fisker | http://www.awardfabrik.de/forum/showpost.php?p=399731&postcount=108 <-can you find out how he got those bitchin' psu cables? |
| 15:02.56 | nevcairiel | http://modpc.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=30 |
| 15:02.57 | nevcairiel | ? |
| 15:03.44 | airtonix | man that stuff is tight |
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| 15:04.24 | nevcairiel | I should get one of those, i dont think my PSU cable is long enough to route it behind the panels of my new case otherwise |
| 15:10.33 | Fisker | aww |
| 15:11.21 | Fisker | i was hoping for a psu with that design :P |
| 15:11.33 | Fisker | maybe someone should make corsair compatible cables |
| 15:12.01 | nevcairiel | i already have a 80plus platinum psu, not buying a new one for colored cables :p |
| 15:12.42 | Fisker | was more for the indivudal wires stuff |
| 15:12.55 | Fisker | i think that would do a lot for flexability |
| 15:13.56 | Fisker | anyway that was my point |
| 15:14.03 | Fisker | since my psu is modular |
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| 15:18.47 | airtonix | your face is modular |
| 15:21.16 | Fisker | i bet your mom wish yours was |
| 15:24.54 | airtonix | lolumadbro |
| 15:24.57 | Amarande | Strange. The 2200 rating gear appears not to be any different from the epics you just buy for conquest points ... |
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| 15:28.01 | Amarande | so what's the point of the 2200 gear then? :S |
| 15:29.47 | cbreak | vanity? |
| 15:37.08 | airtonix | speaking of vanity... i really want to get gitorius running on my home server... but installing all the required ruby stuff makes my head bleed |
| 15:37.13 | airtonix | http://gitorious.org/git-python |
| 15:37.42 | cbreak | I just used gitolite (for repo sharing) |
| 15:37.50 | cbreak | all the web stuff isn't too important... :) |
| 15:38.15 | airtonix | well yeah i'm just going to go with what i know and build a django interface |
| 15:38.43 | nevcairiel | i use gitosis, its working fine too |
| 15:38.59 | cbreak | gitolite is better than gitosis I think. :) |
| 15:39.14 | cbreak | (it's newer, still updated, and the guy who wrote it is very nice and helpful) |
| 15:39.17 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i set it up quite a while ago, and it works |
| 15:40.00 | airtonix | nevcairiel, when you say gitosis, you mean gitweb |
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| 15:40.25 | airtonix | that doesn't work for me. |
| 15:40.38 | nevcairiel | i use gitosis, which can publish its repositories to gitweb |
| 15:40.52 | nevcairiel | as well as ssh and git-daemon |
| 15:40.54 | nevcairiel | all i need |
| 15:41.06 | airtonix | where as the php thing ViewGit works fine for me |
| 15:41.35 | airtonix | i use gitosis as the daemon, but the included gitweb just prints "404 no repos found" |
| 15:41.46 | nevcairiel | sounds like setup failure |
| 15:41.48 | airtonix | so i point viewgit at the same place... and it works |
| 15:42.59 | cbreak | gitweb needs special configuration to export repositories |
| 15:43.05 | cbreak | you have to tell it which are ok |
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| 15:43.15 | cbreak | forgot how to do it |
| 15:43.25 | cbreak | some export-ok file ... hmm... |
| 15:43.26 | airtonix | is that done in the gitosis conf ? |
| 15:43.36 | nevcairiel | gitosis can do it, yes |
| 15:43.43 | cbreak | I've never used gitosis that way |
| 15:43.44 | airtonix | wait |
| 15:44.02 | airtonix | meh cbf |
| 15:44.10 | airtonix | gitweb theming is terribad anyway |
| 15:44.15 | airtonix | rather use django |
| 15:44.23 | cbreak | http://tamsler.blogspot.com/2008/12/gitweb-allowing-to-view-explicitly.html |
| 15:44.37 | nevcairiel | rather use a simple perl cgi instead of installing a whole python framework |
| 15:44.58 | cbreak | you sure installing the whole perl framework is smaller? :) |
| 15:45.05 | airtonix | lol'd |
| 15:45.12 | nevcairiel | perl is installed on 99% of linux boxes anyway |
| 15:45.40 | airtonix | that s ok |
| 15:45.48 | airtonix | you proly don't care how crap it looks |
| 15:46.01 | airtonix | nor are you inclined to edit the perl to re-theme |
| 15:46.06 | airtonix | so its all good |
| 15:46.18 | nevcairiel | i care about the code, not the tiny decorations around it =P |
| 15:47.01 | cbreak | I use gitolite and it works perfectly... all that web interface stuff... don't need it yet. |
| 15:47.08 | cbreak | let's hope it stays that way :) |
| 15:47.26 | nevcairiel | i like being able to browse my code from work or someplace when i have some idea |
| 15:47.33 | nevcairiel | thats all i really use it for |
| 15:49.42 | cbreak | I have a laptop which I can use for that :) |
| 15:49.51 | cbreak | (or I just pull from work) |
| 15:51.32 | airtonix | i use the internet for porn |
| 15:52.01 | airtonix | but you probably already knew that |
| 15:52.11 | TC-Away | airtonix: thats like saying you use air for breathing |
| 15:52.25 | airtonix | yes, yes this is true |
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| 15:52.48 | airtonix | shall i tell... no i won't |
| 15:53.01 | Thunder_Child | too late |
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| 16:30.21 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:32.05 | Fisker | how long are you going to be in mikmaland? |
| 16:32.19 | airtonix | for as long as your mum is amanda tapping |
| 16:32.25 | airtonix | giggidy |
| 16:32.26 | Fisker | i wish airtonix |
| 16:32.35 | airtonix | i'd tap that |
| 16:37.36 | mikma | fisker: 4evah |
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| 16:39.42 | airtonix | Fisker, he's already tapping tapping |
| 16:40.01 | airtonix | mikma, you bastard! |
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| 16:43.46 | bluspacecow | this thread is lolz |
| 16:43.47 | bluspacecow | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=225119#post225119 |
| 16:44.39 | Amarande | ok, I just had a really mega This Is Gonna Suck thought about our raid guild in Cata. :| |
| 16:44.47 | airtonix | i shall return with vanilla icecream in order to verify your claims bluspacecow |
| 16:44.52 | Amarande | Death knights, mages, and druids all share the SAME tier tokens. o.0 |
| 16:45.02 | bluspacecow | kk thanks airtonix |
| 16:45.07 | bluspacecow | i r going to bed nows |
| 16:45.10 | bluspacecow | or at least i should |
| 16:45.13 | Amarande | Our raid consists of literally like five classes or so usually. Of which three are ... death knight, mage, and druid :| |
| 16:45.16 | bluspacecow | i hear bird song O_O |
| 16:45.42 | Amarande | I think it's usually something like 4 druids, 2 priests, 2 paladins, a DK and a mage. heh |
| 16:47.15 | Amarande | Yeah, this is gonna suck. Six raid members take one type of token, the other four take another type and Protector tokens are completely useless to us. :S |
| 16:47.16 | airtonix | imsoninja |
| 16:47.28 | airtonix | chocmintvanilla icecream |
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| 16:47.41 | Amarande | I'm guessing we will now get a steady stream of Protector tokens once things get underway too |
| 16:47.44 | airtonix | squeeeee |
| 16:48.30 | Amarande | since in ICC, we basically *never* had a hunter, only on an off-and-on pug guest basis did we have a shaman, and ... yeah, we got an inordinate amount of mail and ranged weapon drops (especially after our warrior had also gotten swallowed by RL and wasn't around the last month or so of LK.) |
| 16:50.19 | cbreak | we killed the Tol Barad raid boss twice so far |
| 16:50.31 | cbreak | 75% of the items were disenchanted because we lacked the suitable class to wear it |
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| 16:52.23 | Amarande | cbreak: is there a uniform ability to DE Tol Barad raid items, btw? |
| 16:52.24 | foxlit | l2class? |
| 16:52.46 | cbreak | uniform ability? I think normal enchanting skills are enough |
| 16:52.51 | Amarande | I kinda embarrassed myself the first (and only) time I led a VOA 10, since I forgot which stuff could or could not be DE'd |
| 16:53.00 | Amarande | cbreak: some of the gear from VOA wasn't disenchantable (the PvP items, if memory serves now) |
| 16:53.25 | Amarande | I think that VOA run also only had four or five classes represented. |
| 16:53.51 | Amarande | however, in terms of guild raids, we've *always* been lacking in mail wearing classes in particular, which is probably why the RNG keeps giving us mail drops. :) |
| 16:54.01 | airtonix | I guess an important issue for me is that I don't like being mainstream. |
| 16:54.02 | airtonix | Curse is more mainstream so it's natural for me to lurk somewhere that's not so crowded. (And before you ask, yes I have my HS bound to Exodar as Alliance and Silvermoon City as Horde. Nice and empty.) |
| 16:54.10 | airtonix | no i didn't ask |
| 16:54.26 | airtonix | i facepalmed |
| 16:54.30 | Amarande | I raided ICC pretty much weekly from August through mid November, except for a week in early September when I was away for Dragon Con |
| 16:54.56 | Amarande | I think we had a hunter exactly once, and only one or two shamans, of whom only one was good enough that I recall we invited her for more than one week. |
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| 16:59.23 | Computerpunk | Amarande, Kendar #1 Hunter - Executus EU. |
| 16:59.27 | Computerpunk | Mail wearer. |
| 16:59.35 | Computerpunk | Nerfette #1 Shaman - Executus EU. |
| 16:59.39 | Computerpunk | enough mail? |
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| 17:05.37 | Amarande | Yeah, we just don't have mail wearers *in our raid* usually |
| 17:05.42 | Amarande | while more than half of the raid all uses the same tokens |
| 17:07.38 | Amarande | Then you add that four or so of them are druids, which means they'll each need *two* tokens of each type eventually ... |
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| 17:58.09 | Yoshimo | if i inspect me or someone else,can i get the enchants gemsockets and their gems in a reliable way from the api? |
| 17:59.34 | Elkano | enchants and gems should be part of the item links |
| 18:04.16 | Yoshimo | does the beltbuckle from the blacksmiths count as enchant? |
| 18:04.23 | Elkano | see: http://www.wowpedia.org/ItemString |
| 18:07.35 | Computerpunk | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/december/magmawww.jpg |
| 18:07.37 | Computerpunk | cutest tactic ever |
| 18:08.15 | Fisker | that's awesome |
| 18:08.50 | Elkano | Yoshimo, could be id 3729 |
| 18:09.08 | Elkano | it's listed as "Socket Belt" |
| 18:11.14 | Yoshimo | which slotnumber does the waist have? |
| 18:12.38 | Amarande | yes, the belt buckle counts as an enchant, though most of the time you really don't think about that |
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| 18:13.58 | Amarande | mainly because it's the *only* belt enchant you can get unless you're an engineer, if memory serves |
| 18:15.31 | Yoshimo | http://www.wowhead.com/item=41611/eternal-belt-buckle is an item made by a blacksmith which can be sold to others |
| 18:17.10 | Amarande | btw, what are these giant flames coming out of the ground? |
| 18:17.33 | Amarande | I was flying by Arathi on the gryphon and noticing giant flames coming out of Refuge Pointe and elsewhere, that I don't remember there normally being. |
| 18:17.45 | Amarande | that the "deathwing's been here recently" marker? |
| 18:17.58 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 18:18.14 | airtonix | i'd like my slotnumbers back |
| 18:18.20 | nevcairiel | the whole zone would be burning if deathwing was there |
| 18:18.36 | airtonix | clearly he is addicted to drugs |
| 18:18.41 | Fisker | ok airtonix |
| 18:18.43 | airtonix | from a controlled source |
| 18:18.45 | Fisker | you're my number 1 slut |
| 18:18.49 | Amarande | nev: what's giant flames coming out of the ground in part of a zone mean, that aren't normally there then? |
| 18:18.52 | airtonix | ohhh baby |
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| 18:27.23 | Shirik2 | Why the hell does Blizzard not just use a timestamp for the guild bank transactions like EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD |
| 18:27.55 | Shirik2 | No we have to have "this many hours and this many days and this many months and this many years and if you want to compare it to a timestamp so you know if you've already looked at that transactions well TOO BAD" |
| 18:30.59 | nevcairiel | I'm sure they use a timestamp |
| 18:31.10 | nevcairiel | they dont like sharing |
| 18:31.12 | nevcairiel | however |
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| 18:37.11 | Yoshimo | how can i get the raw link of an item posted by a guildmate on the guildchat? |
| 18:39.21 | sintAcks | Shirik, better question is, why is the gold log only 25 lines long. a single guild wipe in a 25 man would clear anything from before that wipe |
| 18:40.03 | nevcairiel | the log on the armory shows more |
| 18:41.17 | Shirik2 | sintAcks: Sounds like you need a guild that is above using the guild bank for repairs |
| 18:41.41 | sintAcks | not the point actually. there are 4 people in my guild. |
| 18:41.44 | sintAcks | we don't even put gold in it |
| 18:42.24 | sintAcks | What is this/does it do... ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter |
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| 18:57.28 | airtonix | it begins the destruction sequence for plan 34 |
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| 19:30.39 | airtonix | http://www.getusb.info/50-terabyte-flash-drive-made-of-bug-protein/ |
| 19:30.50 | airtonix | that was in 2006 |
| 19:30.56 | airtonix | still waiting |
| 19:38.00 | Adys | ~seen jnwhiteh |
| 19:38.01 | purl | jnwhiteh is currently on #wowprogramming (6h 42m 2s) #wowhead (6h 42m 2s) #wowuidev (6h 42m 2s) #wowace (6h 42m 2s). Has said a total of 44 messages. Is idling for 5h 48m 9s, last said: 'fartknocked.'. |
| 19:38.08 | jnwhiteh | hugs Adys |
| 19:38.12 | Adys | hai you |
| 19:38.15 | Adys | had good holidays? |
| 19:38.20 | jnwhiteh | yes and no. |
| 19:38.23 | Adys | fartknocking holidays? |
| 19:39.06 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:39.15 | jnwhiteh | but I'm home now, which is better |
| 19:39.20 | Adys | =( |
| 19:39.24 | jnwhiteh | can you replay peacebloom vs ghouls yet? |
| 19:40.29 | Fisker | test tickles jnwhiteh |
| 19:40.56 | Fisker | how long will you stay in mikmaland jnwhiteh ? |
| 19:41.44 | jnwhiteh | 3 days? 4 days? |
| 19:42.03 | Fisker | it is finland right? |
| 19:42.17 | Fisker | Just gonna make sure i'm calibrating my icbm's right |
| 19:44.58 | Gagorian | a) Your farts don't count as ICMBs |
| 19:45.09 | Fisker | :( |
| 19:45.36 | Fisker | b? |
| 19:45.56 | Gagorian | b) You don't need an ICBM to reach Finland from Denmark |
| 19:46.13 | Fisker | who said my icbm's was in denmark? |
| 19:46.29 | Fisker | also |
| 19:47.05 | Fisker | your mom :( |
| 19:47.46 | Thunder_Child | why is your mom sad? |
| 19:56.38 | Shirik2 | Fisker is actually an Iraqi |
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| 20:07.34 | jnwhiteh | is there a TourGuide for Cata dailies? |
| 20:09.02 | airtonix | Gagorian, i need an icbm to reach your face though |
| 20:12.50 | jnwhiteh | what is the best version of archy to use so I don't want to shoot myself in the face? |
| 20:13.18 | Fisker | 1.5 probably |
| 20:13.30 | Fisker | or was it 1.6? |
| 20:13.39 | jnwhiteh | that's what I need to know :P |
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| 20:19.47 | mikma | fisker: 4 days full of finnish food and VIHTA!!! ( /poke sioraiocht ) |
| 20:20.15 | zenzelezz | wouldn't vodka be better? |
| 20:20.27 | Fisker | i don't even know what vihta is |
| 20:21.31 | mikma | fisker: sucks to be you nerd |
| 20:21.53 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:22.04 | Gagorian | It's a bundle of small birch branches and leaves |
| 20:22.10 | Fisker | apparently people who don't understand finnish are nerds :( |
| 20:22.50 | sioraiocht | w00000t |
| 20:22.50 | Gagorian | Which you then use to whip yourself and others in the sauna |
| 20:22.55 | sioraiocht | Fisker: it's a birch branch |
| 20:22.56 | Fisker | sweet |
| 20:23.00 | sioraiocht | oh, Gagorian told you |
| 20:23.08 | sioraiocht | it's supposed to make you perspire better |
| 20:23.14 | Fisker | sounds homoerotic |
| 20:24.52 | mikma | fisker: was this your new years eve? http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/confetti_death.jpg |
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| 20:32.03 | Ackis | are the log in servers being retarded? |
| 20:32.18 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: there's a best version of archy? |
| 20:32.31 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:32.50 | Ackis | I disabled archy when it started making tom tom run at 3k cpu/sec |
| 20:33.06 | Fisker | old |
| 20:33.56 | Ackis | are login servers being stupid today? |
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| 20:35.56 | Shirik2 | ow |
| 20:35.58 | Shirik2 | owwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 20:36.00 | Shirik2 | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=405366265#why_do_you_need_money.28donations.29.3F |
| 20:36.08 | Ackis | you know my 30th birthday is going pretty shittily today |
| 20:42.22 | Fisker | why are our birthdays so close to eachother Ackis ? |
| 20:42.36 | Ackis | dunno Fisker |
| 20:44.43 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: i need one that freaking works |
| 20:45.13 | jnwhiteh | so how do i effectively achaeology |
| 20:46.33 | Shirik2 | dig |
| 20:46.35 | Shirik2 | run |
| 20:46.37 | Shirik2 | dig |
| 20:46.38 | Shirik2 | run |
| 20:46.39 | Ackis | I use SAT |
| 20:46.40 | Shirik2 | dig |
| 20:46.41 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:47.14 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: SAT? |
| 20:47.30 | Ackis | err SAL |
| 20:47.36 | Ackis | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/sal/ |
| 20:48.03 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 20:48.25 | jnwhiteh | before 300 skill, just solve |
| 20:48.28 | jnwhiteh | use keystones |
| 20:48.38 | jnwhiteh | I'd like to find the vial recipe eventually :P |
| 20:49.12 | zenzelezz | my way from 1-525 was basically fly -> search + dig x 3 -> assemble if possible |
| 20:49.17 | Fisker | don't solve any task before 100 |
| 20:49.23 | Fisker | artifact |
| 20:49.24 | zenzelezz | 90% of which was just Eastern Kingdoms |
| 20:49.29 | jnwhiteh | done already |
| 20:49.30 | zenzelezz | somehow EK felt fastest |
| 20:49.37 | nevcairiel | yeah, keep stuff until 100, after that keep the ones that you want the high-level item from |
| 20:49.43 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 20:49.53 | Fisker | doing fossil ones can be a good idea |
| 20:49.54 | nevcairiel | other then that, there is no magic |
| 20:49.56 | Shirik2 | problem is this SAL does not do arcs |
| 20:50.00 | Fisker | since they give you raptor and pet pretty early |
| 20:50.06 | zenzelezz | the only keystones worth anything are nerubian and tol'vir |
| 20:50.12 | Fisker | while the other still have some significant 85 rewards at 450 |
| 20:50.15 | nevcairiel | fossil is pretty good for skilling, as you wont need them for anything else |
| 20:50.29 | nevcairiel | sadly no keystones |
| 20:50.40 | jnwhiteh | kk |
| 20:50.50 | zenzelezz | don't really need keystones for fossils; you find them on both EK and Kalimdor, and plenty of them |
| 20:51.02 | nevcairiel | would still be faster with keystones :) |
| 20:51.19 | zenzelezz | a little, true |
| 20:52.30 | Fisker | i wish they added like a daily |
| 20:52.44 | Fisker | where you had a chance of getting one of the epic artifacts as a research project |
| 20:52.48 | nevcairiel | they need to add something, or archaeology will be old in two weeks |
| 20:53.29 | Fisker | i've not even done a lot of archaeology but it's basically worse than fishing :( |
| 20:53.45 | nevcairiel | it wasnt that bad, and i at least got the nelf trinket out of it |
| 20:53.51 | nevcairiel | now if i only got the tolvir staff as well |
| 20:53.55 | nevcairiel | but tolvir is evil |
| 20:53.57 | nevcairiel | eviiiil |
| 20:54.09 | Fisker | The thing archaeology got over fishing is that it doesn't require a big attention span :P |
| 20:55.15 | zenzelezz | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2008.03.windowsconfidential.aspx - the psychology of naming... |
| 20:55.16 | foxlit | Fisker: "where you had a chance of getting one of the epic artifacts as a research project" << hey, why don't you just complete your current artifact as a daily. Ha. |
| 20:55.25 | sioraiocht | Fisker: is the going price for a nexus S still 569GBP? |
| 20:55.36 | Fisker | haha foxlit ! |
| 20:55.44 | Fisker | obviously at an increased chance or something |
| 20:55.49 | Fisker | no sioraiocht |
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| 20:55.53 | Fisker | it's 429.99 now |
| 20:55.58 | sioraiocht | ah, from whom? |
| 20:56.02 | Fisker | the same guys |
| 20:56.04 | sioraiocht | amazon.co.uk is still quoting 569 |
| 20:56.21 | Fisker | carphonewarehouse is the only official retailer as far as i know |
| 20:56.26 | sioraiocht | ah tht's from an amazon reseller |
| 20:56.58 | Fisker | http://www.amazon.co.uk/GOOGLE-NEXUS-UNLOCKED-CELL-PHONE/dp/B004GQSO9I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1293915399&sr=8-1 <-lol'd |
| 20:57.00 | Fisker | htc |
| 20:57.34 | sioraiocht | hehe |
| 20:57.40 | Fisker | i just need someone who is willing to send it from the uk to me |
| 20:57.50 | Fisker | couldn't find anything á la shop usa |
| 20:57.53 | Fisker | for the uk |
| 20:58.00 | Fisker | since ukanians are usually not twats |
| 20:58.01 | Fisker | :3 |
| 20:58.02 | nevcairiel | again no phones for dk, eh |
| 20:58.13 | Fisker | never nevcairiel |
| 20:58.17 | Fisker | don't even know if i want it |
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| 20:58.33 | Fisker | since it's basically just a half-hearted rehash of the first one |
| 20:58.40 | zenzelezz | I ordered a few books from amazon.co.uk yesterday; was surprised that for once I could actually use the darn (Free) Super Saver delivery thing. That thing's been taunting me for years, going "your order qualifies for - oh wait, no, your country doesn't count" |
| 20:58.47 | sioraiocht | Fisker: I'll go play one tomorrow |
| 20:58.59 | Fisker | i don't doubt it's a nice phone |
| 20:59.10 | zenzelezz | why do Danes need phones anyway, the country's like 20 km², and the highest peak is roughly 20 meters |
| 20:59.23 | Fisker | if our peak was higher we could shout |
| 20:59.25 | Fisker | but we can't :( |
| 21:00.34 | Ackis | well played Fisker |
| 21:01.10 | zenzelezz | what, did he actually make a good retort or something? |
| 21:01.16 | Fisker | i always do |
| 21:01.34 | Fisker | anyway sioraiocht the problem simply is that compared to what the nexus one was one year ago, this is basically just the same phone but with a new design and some design quirks fixed |
| 21:01.54 | sioraiocht | Fisker: well, I wouldn't want a more amped up processor |
| 21:02.12 | sioraiocht | I have a Hero right now =p |
| 21:03.02 | Fisker | hero is oooooold |
| 21:03.21 | sioraiocht | iii knoooooooooow =p |
| 21:03.34 | sioraiocht | I figure I'll upgrade to the best :P |
| 21:03.39 | mikma | vihta |
| 21:04.06 | Fisker | yeah |
| 21:04.22 | Fisker | if you had the choice today you should definitely go nexus s |
| 21:04.32 | Fisker | but that might change in a couple of weeks :P |
| 21:04.39 | sioraiocht | meh |
| 21:04.50 | sioraiocht | it's likedly to change every 3 months |
| 21:04.55 | mikma | sioraiocht: we should vihta the crap out of fisker, i bet he would stop the trolling then |
| 21:05.02 | Fisker | not entirely :P |
| 21:05.03 | sioraiocht | lol |
| 21:05.28 | Fisker | But the only significant upgrade to the 1GHz snapdragon is coming out in a few weeks in the new dual core chips |
| 21:05.46 | Fisker | guessing they will be unveiled at CES |
| 21:06.34 | sioraiocht | yeahhhh |
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| 21:06.38 | jnwhiteh | i am sad my nexus one is broken again |
| 21:07.01 | Fisker | you can get mine with my flaky power button |
| 21:07.04 | Fisker | for a nexus s |
| 21:07.07 | Fisker | nice trade right? |
| 21:07.22 | sioraiocht | I can at least wait for CES =p |
| 21:07.46 | zenzelezz | jnwhiteh: again? |
| 21:07.52 | mikma | jnwhiteh: so i bought samsung galaxy 3 for wife as xmas gift. installed angry birds. she's hooked 100%. |
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| 21:08.17 | sioraiocht | angry birds... |
| 21:08.35 | mikma | by rovio (= bonfire) |
| 21:08.42 | sioraiocht | no |
| 21:08.45 | sioraiocht | I was musing |
| 21:08.46 | mikma | rovio is the place where you burn witches |
| 21:08.47 | sioraiocht | I love it |
| 21:08.50 | sioraiocht | it runs like crap |
| 21:08.56 | sioraiocht | on my hero |
| 21:08.59 | sioraiocht | but I still play it |
| 21:09.00 | sioraiocht | heh |
| 21:09.06 | Fisker | how ironic your wife is playing a game made by rovio then mikma |
| 21:09.07 | Fisker | BAM |
| 21:09.26 | mikma | how can it be ironic? |
| 21:09.38 | mikma | after all, shes not burning in one |
| 21:09.44 | zenzelezz | my brother says Angry Birds runs better on his Galaxy S than on his iPad... I'm not familiar with the specifications of either, but it amused me |
| 21:10.16 | mikma | the android version lags like crazy on galaxy 3 when ads are showing |
| 21:10.18 | Computerpunk | Glory of the Hero /flex. |
| 21:10.23 | Fisker | basically the same chip i believe zenzelezz |
| 21:10.35 | Fisker | and it apparently does on pretty much any device mikma |
| 21:10.54 | mikma | fisker: only when ads are showing. |
| 21:11.08 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:11.08 | mikma | runs smoothly on nokia n900 |
| 21:11.23 | Fisker | any android device then :P |
| 21:12.13 | Computerpunk | Fisker |
| 21:12.32 | Fisker | Computerpunk |
| 21:12.55 | mikma | cairenn|afk |
| 21:13.04 | Computerpunk | nicoli_s |
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| 21:14.23 | mikma | ~fiskered |
| 21:14.51 | mikma | ~fisk |
| 21:14.56 | mikma | good |
| 21:15.24 | jnwhiteh | zenzelezz: angry birds on ipad is small resolution |
| 21:15.28 | jnwhiteh | full res on galaxy tab :P |
| 21:15.45 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.51 | Fisker | unless ipad does some kind of funky software scaling |
| 21:16.10 | zenzelezz | hrm... it just occurred to me... for certain facial expressions, Tom Hanks looks like Steven Seagal |
| 21:16.16 | Fisker | omg |
| 21:16.24 | mikma | IPOOOOOD (IPAD!) .. gotta love the unboxing porn |
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| 21:46.21 | bleeter | NFS Shift runs pretty bloody smooth on the GTab |
| 21:46.35 | bleeter | <3's his GTab |
| 21:46.52 | zenzelezz | Galaxy Tab? |
| 21:47.37 | bleeter | yar |
| 21:48.17 | bleeter | mikma: yeah I don't get Mr Rovio's comments, ABirds plays fine on n900. People have taken android NFS and had it run successfully on n900, methinks he's full of shit |
| 21:48.53 | bleeter | there's quite a few android games that play with very minor tweaking on maemo, could be very interesting for meego/android future... |
| 21:50.09 | zenzelezz | bleeter: what language do you use for Maemo? Java there too? |
| 21:50.26 | bleeter | zenzelezz: maemo's just a variant of debian |
| 21:50.38 | bleeter | zenzelezz: so... gtk, qt, perl, java, python, whatever you wish |
| 21:50.58 | bleeter | gtk is preferred, though they're switching main ui to QT, will take pretty much anything under the hood. |
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| 21:51.42 | zenzelezz | I can't back this up in any way, but I think most Android apps stick to Java, instead of dropping to the Native stuff; was just curious what sort of tweaks you meant would have to be made |
| 21:51.44 | bleeter | they're merging with intel moblin to form 'meego', you'll also find it in incar entertainment systems starting next year (radios, dvd players etc.) |
| 21:53.22 | bleeter | from memory, minor shoehorns on the OpenGLES foo, as Maemo is 'slightly' old (I first saw the device early 2009, must've been built early 2008, CPU and GFX pretty much same as most 'standard' phones these days, just severely underclocked) |
| 21:53.32 | bleeter | I keep meaning to overclock it, but... meh |
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| 21:57.32 | industrial | 0.25% to hitcap oh yeah baby! |
| 21:57.36 | industrial | expertise cap's next! |
| 21:59.17 | foxlit | Um, problem. |
| 21:59.31 | foxlit | How do I get effect-altered spells to work from ordinary action buttons? |
| 21:59.53 | Xyphoid | let me guess, chastise? |
| 22:00.01 | foxlit | Trap Launcher, in this case. |
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| 22:00.27 | drag0nius | hmm |
| 22:00.40 | drag0nius | can i make addon for binding key that already exist in keybinds |
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| 22:00.45 | drag0nius | and add 2 slash commands into it? |
| 22:00.58 | drag0nius | i wanted to make sth like |
| 22:01.11 | drag0nius | target last enemy, interact (loot) and switch target back |
| 22:01.17 | foxlit | Nah, one will fail and bork casting |
| 22:01.34 | drag0nius | especially for those damned elementals |
| 22:01.46 | drag0nius | cba waiting 5 sec for it to die completely before looting ;d |
| 22:02.10 | foxlit | No, you can't. |
| 22:02.43 | drag0nius | how about making it work "in cycle" |
| 22:02.48 | drag0nius | 1 press - target last |
| 22:02.51 | drag0nius | 2nd - interact |
| 22:03.21 | drag0nius | cos there is interact binding in the keybinds |
| 22:03.58 | Silversage | Hmm. Any way to determine the length of a varargs without putting it into a table? |
| 22:04.14 | foxlit | lua> select("#", 1,2,3) |
| 22:04.15 | lua_bot | foxlit: 3 |
| 22:04.48 | Silversage | ty |
| 22:04.49 | Mr_Rabies | is there any way to use the lock "spell" Summon Demon in a macro? |
| 22:05.21 | Mr_Rabies | it's not a true spell so /cast Summon Demon doesn't work |
| 22:05.51 | drag0nius | what type of demon? :P |
| 22:05.54 | Maldivia | select the demon spell you want :P |
| 22:06.09 | drag0nius | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.11 | Mr_Rabies | there's no way to use the actual summon demon thing, though |
| 22:06.15 | drag0nius | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.22 | drag0nius | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.23 | Mr_Rabies | only specific demons |
| 22:06.23 | drag0nius | etc. |
| 22:06.30 | Mr_Rabies | that kinda ruins my macro |
| 22:06.36 | drag0nius | what u want to do again? |
| 22:06.46 | Mr_Rabies | right click soul burn, left click summon demon |
| 22:06.56 | drag0nius | but which demon? |
| 22:06.58 | Maldivia | summon demon isn't a spell, it's a spell group |
| 22:07.03 | drag0nius | yep |
| 22:07.16 | Mr_Rabies | Maldivia: I know, i'm asking if there's any way to use the group then |
| 22:07.22 | Maldivia | not in a macro |
| 22:07.25 | drag0nius | how you'd like to use it? |
| 22:07.33 | Mr_Rabies | when i click it it brings up the menu |
| 22:07.34 | drag0nius | open the demon menu? |
| 22:07.58 | Mr_Rabies | yeah |
| 22:08.29 | Mr_Rabies | i could use a click macro but the functionality isn't going to do what i want it to |
| 22:09.03 | drag0nius | and what u want it to do? :P |
| 22:09.32 | Mr_Rabies | when i click it it brings up the menu |
| 22:09.37 | olafski | it isn't that hard to figure out what he wants is it :P |
| 22:09.44 | drag0nius | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.44 | drag0nius | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.03 | drag0nius | should do xD |
| 22:10.10 | Mr_Rabies | don't think that works |
| 22:10.31 | Mr_Rabies | /use is effectively the same as /cast now i believe |
| 22:10.49 | drag0nius | ye |
| 22:11.13 | olafski | and as summon demon isn't a spell, as mr_rabies said a few times.. :P |
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| 22:12.46 | drag0nius | but idk why clicking wouldnt work xD |
| 22:12.53 | drag0nius | clicking itself |
| 22:12.56 | drag0nius | if clicking other button work |
| 22:13.12 | foxlit | "self" is not a button name. |
| 22:13.19 | drag0nius | you put ur button name here |
| 22:13.20 | olafski | that would create some kind of infinite loop oO |
| 22:13.41 | drag0nius | hmm maybe D |
| 22:14.01 | drag0nius | just add /click [mod] then ;d |
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| 22:23.32 | olafski | dude, Summon Demon isn't a spell so you can't use it in a macro |
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| 22:23.49 | olafski | wtf would click self accomplish :s |
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| 22:29.10 | Computerpunk | Is there any mod that makes Recount LoD? |
| 22:30.49 | nevcairiel | addons cannot control the loading of other addons |
| 22:31.00 | nevcairiel | or well, they cannot make an addon LoD |
| 22:31.25 | Computerpunk | Mkay, ty. |
| 22:31.33 | Computerpunk | Well, there was this: |
| 22:31.48 | Computerpunk | Talented + Talented_Loader |
| 22:31.50 | Computerpunk | Loader make it LoD. |
| 22:31.54 | drag0nius | might be bad idea, but could try adding "## LoadOnDemand: 1" into toc file |
| 22:32.11 | Arrowmaster | the original addon was written to work with that though |
| 22:32.25 | Arrowmaster | you cant just make an addon to make any other addon LoD |
| 22:32.58 | Computerpunk | Kk, ty. |
| 22:33.58 | Computerpunk | Also, I've noticed that Carbonite is using double memory since Cata update. |
| 22:34.10 | Computerpunk | To me, it seems weird, lol. |
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| 23:35.56 | Kraps | happy new year |
| 23:36.12 | Kraps | year new happy |
| 23:36.25 | Kraps | new happy year |
| 23:40.02 | Computerpunk | http://www.expirationchug.com/wp-content/gallery/2batman/03.jpg |
| 23:40.05 | Computerpunk | sfw, and I lol'd. |
| 23:42.30 | nevcairiel | i dont get it |
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| 23:44.24 | Computerpunk | Batman is enough. |
| 23:45.24 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: |
| 23:56.03 | Adys | lua> t = {[[foo]] = true}; return t[foo] |
| 23:56.06 | lua_bot | Adys: luabot:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 23:56.30 | Adys | lua> t = {[1]=[[foo]]}; return t[1] |
| 23:56.30 | lua_bot | Adys: foo |
| 23:57.38 | mckenziemc | ~wowalert |
| 23:57.38 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 23:58.00 | mckenziemc | ^ check the timestamp on the US alert |
| 23:59.01 | Kraps | heh |
