| 00:00.41 | Iriel | thats cheating (spawning) |
| 00:00.53 | cogwheel | oh... yeah... that takes the S out of SMP... |
| 00:00.58 | cogwheel | imo |
| 00:01.36 | cogwheel | i kept running out of arrows and feathers |
| 00:01.54 | cogwheel | so i decided never to do that again ;) |
| 00:02.12 | haste | my god dolby is tweaking! |
| 00:02.37 | cogwheel | dolby is your god? |
| 00:02.44 | haste | y |
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| 00:18.08 | cogwheel | mine is only getting about 1/20 the output claimed in the thread, but i've only got 8 spawning levels and it's not exploiting some trick about building in chunk 0 |
| 00:18.46 | cogwheel | either way we won't be wanting for any mob drops from now on :P |
| 00:21.39 | Amarande | heh cogwheel, I remember when I'd go on Baldur's Gate 2 multiplayer games and dupe the ring of Gaxx |
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| 00:28.38 | Fisker | i once killed a cogwheel |
| 00:29.51 | cog|away | kills Fisker |
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| 00:39.04 | Amarande | is anyone here having trouble with the Feathered Lure recipe? |
| 00:39.16 | Amarande | I've been running into a fair number of people on trade chat who can't use it despite having enough Cooking |
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| 00:41.30 | foxlit | Hm, seems like you can actually triangulate within the green zone |
| 00:49.56 | Fisker | Amarande |
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| 01:16.46 | clever | is it posible to crop a frame when displaying it? |
| 01:18.32 | syrae | Amarande: it's known bugged by Blizzard |
| 01:18.45 | syrae | Amarande: and I believe they removed it off the vendor for that reason |
| 01:19.30 | clever | i'm thinking of crapping the map to show the zone complete with archaeology/quest PIO's |
| 01:19.42 | clever | without shrinking it so much that its imposible to see them |
| 01:19.47 | clever | cropping* |
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| 01:39.35 | Shefki | Well I think I'm done with writing addons and publishing them for other people. |
| 01:40.25 | Corrodias | insert snark here |
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| 01:42.09 | Cairenn | Shefki: ? |
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| 01:53.12 | cogwheel | I wonder how much time Alabamans save filling out online forms since they usually won't have to change the state dropdown... |
| 01:53.37 | foxlit | three keystrokes? |
| 01:53.39 | Cide | potentially months |
| 01:56.17 | cogwheel | ~hug Shefki |
| 01:56.17 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Shefki |
| 01:56.51 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Just think of the time they save at the doctor, what with only having to put " in under mother, wife, and sisters |
| 01:56.54 | cogwheel | hopes TBag doesn't break until/unless blizzard revamps the inventory system |
| 01:57.18 | cogwheel | Dagmar: too easy |
| 01:57.18 | cogwheel | :P |
| 01:57.41 | cogwheel | snickers at all the curse devs |
| 01:58.56 | Fisker | 525 enchanter |
| 01:58.58 | Fisker | tired |
| 01:59.02 | Fisker | cogwheel kill |
| 01:59.20 | cogwheel | die2u |
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| 01:59.26 | Fisker | nou |
| 02:00.04 | cogwheel | hmm... it's already tomorrow for you huh? |
| 02:00.19 | Fisker | it's saturday yeah |
| 02:02.33 | Fisker | it's like 3am now |
| 02:02.39 | cogwheel | i did that last night building my mob spawn/trap ... |
| 02:03.54 | cogwheel | waits for jnwhiteh's server to fix itself... |
| 02:06.26 | Adys | English: Lhara <Darkmoon Faire Exotic Goods> |
| 02:06.28 | Adys | Spanish: Lhara <Vendedora de objetos exóticos de la Feria de la Luna Negra> |
| 02:06.32 | Adys | find the glitch |
| 02:08.49 | cogwheel | ? |
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| 02:39.42 | Adys | Bitlbee is incredibly... useless, yet awesome, yet not useless, yet very awesome |
| 02:40.08 | Adys | It's giving me a geek-on. it's like a hard-on really |
| 02:40.59 | Arrowmaster | what is it? |
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| 02:42.35 | Adys | Arrowmaster: an IM->IRC layer |
| 02:42.49 | Amarande | ok, that bug is LAME |
| 02:42.52 | Adys | im logged on my gtalk acc on xchat |
| 02:42.53 | Amarande | another 40 minutes of queue lost because of it |
| 02:43.44 | Amarande | quest with the slain soldiers on the gunship in Deepholm: when they die, they come up as lootable. try to loot and they immediately despawn AND YOU ARE STUCK IN "TRYING TO LOOT" animation apparently forever until you log out |
| 02:43.49 | Amarande | and there I go, back to the back of the bus for VP again |
| 02:44.23 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck has oracle done to virtualbox |
| 02:44.36 | Amarande | why are queues so ungodly long now compared to LK? |
| 02:44.36 | Arrowmaster | trying to manage snapshots and its constantly locking up |
| 02:44.43 | BWMerlin | Adys: why not use pidgin as it can do so many protocols in one client? |
| 02:44.43 | Amarande | you'd think they'd be shorter, with more people to make groups from |
| 02:44.53 | Adys | woosh |
| 02:45.49 | Amarande | or are people just not bothering with normals and questing to 85 then planning to just do heroics? |
| 02:46.42 | Amarande | I'm not sure if it's tanks or healers that are short :S |
| 02:46.56 | Amarande | possibly healers, since everyone probably avoided them with all the talk about how questing was going to be mega hard |
| 02:47.03 | BWMerlin | i played my warrior for about 2 hours then went on my lvl 64 pally to try an avoid the rush on mobs and quests and general crappyness that new content is |
| 02:49.13 | BWMerlin | that an idk anything about the new instances so going to do some reading b4 i tank them |
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| 02:54.51 | mascondante | Isn't LDB a part of WoW now? |
| 02:55.49 | mascondante | I'm going through and removing addons I don't need anymore. |
| 02:57.09 | bluspacecow | LDB ? |
| 02:57.10 | bluspacecow | no |
| 02:57.38 | bluspacecow | the library's so small that some addon authors can embed it in their addon for no trouble at all |
| 03:00.22 | mascondante | ah well then I'll keep it =). Thanks bluspacecow |
| 03:02.41 | mascondante | Anyone happen to have a tool to clean up the savedvars folder? I want to make sure I got that handled too. |
| 03:04.37 | mascondante | like a perl script or something of that nature |
| 03:10.39 | Amarande | ok, the next person in deepholm chat who asks where Stonecore is ... |
| 03:10.57 | kd3 | just say "front page of wowpedia, go!" |
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| 03:30.07 | ccox | wtf, has freenode been down for the past hour, or something else going on with the net? |
| 03:30.33 | pantsninja | freenode is fine |
| 03:31.10 | ccox | hmm, ok, something else has been preventing me from contacting freenode. hmm. |
| 03:31.22 | pantsninja | I blame Fisker |
| 03:32.13 | ccox | well, yeah, of course |
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| 03:35.09 | Cide | http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/33/doubledigitiq.jpg |
| 03:35.35 | pantsninja | ccox: I heard he once killed a man's internet connection |
| 03:36.34 | Arrowmaster | Cide: lol |
| 03:36.38 | Arrowmaster | Cide: wowbash it |
| 03:37.08 | Arrowmaster | wait what game is that |
| 03:37.15 | Cide | heroes of newerth |
| 03:37.30 | Arrowmaster | still lol |
| 03:39.36 | mascondante | grr questhelper still showing broken |
| 03:39.56 | bluspacecow | oh my. |
| 03:39.58 | mascondante | well at least my client isn't so bogged down after cleaning it out |
| 03:40.08 | bluspacecow | you might have to i dunno read the quest text ;D |
| 03:40.43 | mascondante | Oh I just like the arrow. Handy for speeding up point-a to point-b travel. |
| 03:40.45 | Pertheria | or... use the ingame quest markers that basically replace questhelper |
| 03:40.56 | bluspacecow | he likes the arrows |
| 03:40.58 | Pertheria | hehe |
| 03:41.06 | bluspacecow | you could kinda get the same thing |
| 03:41.09 | Pertheria | because pressing M and going that direction is so difficult ;) |
| 03:41.16 | bluspacecow | if your map addon addons co ords on the map |
| 03:41.28 | bluspacecow | get a x . y coords |
| 03:41.32 | bluspacecow | program the arrow manually |
| 03:42.31 | mascondante | I'm sure I could. |
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| 04:45.59 | Cide | Hello |
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| 06:36.06 | ZorbaBeta | there's literally a constant train of people running back into Blackrock Caverns in ghost form |
| 06:36.08 | ZorbaBeta | it is fantastic |
| 06:37.15 | Yssaril | that place isnt that bad |
| 06:40.56 | ZorbaBeta | we're trying it on heroic, which is sort of beating us up. I don't know what the others are doing |
| 06:42.01 | Yssaril | ohh that might be a different story then |
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| 06:44.09 | ZorbaBeta | corla has killed us like five times so far :( |
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| 07:25.17 | Shirik | !api channel |
| 07:25.18 | lua_bot | Found 77 possible matches for 'channel'. Please be more specific |
| 07:25.22 | Shirik | !api channeltime |
| 07:25.23 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'channeltime'. |
| 07:25.26 | Shirik | !api time |
| 07:25.27 | lua_bot | time: Returns the numeric time value for a described date/time (or the current time) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/time) |
| 07:25.30 | Shirik | :/ |
| 07:25.37 | Shirik | Anyone know how I can get the currently-channeling spell's time |
| 07:25.41 | Shirik | like how long it lasts? |
| 07:27.00 | Shirik | !api UnitChannelInfo |
| 07:27.00 | lua_bot | UnitChannelInfo: Returns information about the spell a unit is currently channeling (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitChannelInfo) |
| 07:27.04 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:27.19 | Shirik | no :( |
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| 07:29.24 | Nobgul | huh what |
| 07:29.26 | TC-Away | Shirik: total time? |
| 07:29.32 | Nobgul | Sorry auto clear mirc ftl |
| 07:29.34 | TC-Away | as in spell info? |
| 07:29.38 | Nobgul | What was your question? |
| 07:29.39 | Shirik | either current or total |
| 07:29.55 | Thunder_Child | isnt it just a spell info query? |
| 07:30.10 | Shirik | I can't seem to figure out the right spell to feed into GetSpellInfo() |
| 07:30.22 | Nobgul | For what spell? |
| 07:30.26 | Thunder_Child | any of them that have a channel time? |
| 07:31.00 | Thunder_Child | there is also UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START/STOP/UPDATE |
| 07:31.39 | Shirik | got it |
| 07:31.43 | Shirik | It IS in UnitChannelInfo |
| 07:31.48 | Shirik | it's just it gives you start and stop time |
| 07:31.58 | Shirik | instead of a "remaining" and "total" |
| 07:32.16 | Thunder_Child | guess you have to math it out yourself |
| 07:32.33 | Shirik | yeah |
| 07:32.39 | Shirik | no big deal, it was just kinda hiding |
| 07:32.41 | Nobgul | Is it for a specific class? |
| 07:32.57 | Shirik | actually I was looking for the summoning stone spell |
| 07:33.01 | Shirik | "spell" |
| 07:33.03 | Nobgul | Ah |
| 07:33.33 | Nobgul | 598 |
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| 07:36.13 | Ycarene | Is it possible to make an addon that can run LUA bytecode? |
| 07:37.16 | Nobgul | Shirik, and if your remotly interested 48018 that should be the spell # for the accual summon portal. |
| 07:38.12 | Nobgul | Ycarene, No |
| 07:38.24 | Nobgul | Well I have never seen anyone do it. |
| 07:39.20 | Nobgul | your talking about using the opcodes right? 0x000000C0 etc? |
| 07:39.26 | Ycarene | Yes |
| 07:39.45 | Nobgul | Yer never seen anyone do it and I have seen loads of addons. |
| 07:40.29 | Nobgul | I would prob say no further due to blizzard's rule about code obsufcation |
| 07:40.36 | Nobgul | and i am almost but sure i spelt that wrong =P |
| 07:41.38 | Ycarene | It's a standard, I can't see how it would be considered Obfuscated. |
| 07:42.45 | Nobgul | It would not be easy for non programmers to read. and understand. |
| 07:43.11 | ZorbaBeta | ycarene, the "obfuscated code" rule is pretty much up to blizzard's discretion |
| 07:43.17 | ZorbaBeta | I know that QH's database was very highly compressed |
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| 07:43.30 | ZorbaBeta | that said, I can't think of a case where slinging bytecode around would be for any really good reason besides obfuscation |
| 07:44.12 | Nobgul | Honestly, That is all I am thinking. I mean you may have other reasons to do it. But I couldn't see it being useful? |
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| 07:45.34 | Ycarene | Would it be possible tho? |
| 07:45.47 | Xinhuan | it is not possible |
| 07:46.26 | Nobgul | I have only seen a few examples of bytecode in the blizzard code. |
| 07:46.34 | Nobgul | Anyway |
| 07:46.39 | Nobgul | ty Xinhuan. |
| 07:50.34 | ZorbaBeta | bytecode has security issues as well, it wouldn't surprise me if they just disabled it |
| 07:50.41 | ZorbaBeta | I know blizzard isn't using anything near a stock lua interpreter by now |
| 07:51.34 | Nobgul | I guess you could try but don't be surprised if bad things happen. |
| 07:52.22 | Nobgul | Sleep sounds good. |
| 07:59.39 | Arrowmaster | where does blizz code use bytecode? |
| 08:00.09 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster, I am sure i saw some in the addon author's kit. Im not gonna dig through it now. |
| 08:00.29 | Arrowmaster | blizz disabled the loading of compiled bytecode addons back in the original beta |
| 08:01.10 | Arrowmaster | Nobgul: sure it wasnt just binary math you saw? |
| 08:01.51 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster, it may have been. I didn't stop to take notice, when im digging in there im looking for something specific. |
| 08:02.14 | Nobgul | And that is something i wouldn't look for specifically |
| 08:04.15 | Shirik | Ycarene: It cannot |
| 08:04.31 | Shirik | loadstring() has been explicitly modified so it cannot run bytecode |
| 08:04.36 | Shirik | it used to be able to |
| 08:04.48 | Shirik | and that is the only place where you get such functionality from Lua |
| 08:05.13 | Arrowmaster | and theres no string.dump in wow |
| 08:07.08 | Shirik | yeah it's there |
| 08:07.13 | Shirik | it just doesn't give you anything useful |
| 08:07.58 | Nobgul | doesnt string.dump give you the binary of the function? |
| 08:08.23 | Nobgul | ^"representation" |
| 08:08.27 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.dump(function() end) |
| 08:08.27 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: LuaQ |
| 08:08.48 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.dump(function() return 42 end) |
| 08:08.49 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: LuaQ |
| 08:09.17 | Arrowmaster | i think lua_bot has it modified too |
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| 08:28.19 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: The nulls screw it up |
| 08:28.29 | Shirik | LuaQ is the magic number |
| 08:28.34 | Shirik | and then typically it's followed by a null |
| 08:28.55 | Arrowmaster | lua> string.format("%q",string.dump(function() return 42 end)) |
| 08:28.56 | lua_bot | 000000000000=luabot000 |
| 08:28.56 | lua_bot | 000000000000000000000000000 |
| 08:28.56 | lua_bot | 000000 |
| 08:28.56 | lua_bot | 000000000 |
| 08:31.30 | Shirik | so um |
| 08:31.34 | Shirik | more like a lot of nulls |
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| 08:34.17 | Shirik | lua> loadstring("LuaQ\000lajkajwef") |
| 08:34.18 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil, [string "LuaQ"]:1: '=' expected |
| 08:34.31 | Shirik | lua> loadstring(string.dump(function() end)) |
| 08:34.31 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x9c06ab8 |
| 08:34.35 | Shirik | hm |
| 08:34.55 | Shirik | I wonder how they detect that it's a bytecode |
| 08:35.04 | Shirik | oh I see |
| 08:35.10 | Shirik | lua> loadstring("LuaQ\000\1lajkajwef") |
| 08:35.11 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil, [string "LuaQ"]:1: '=' expected |
| 08:35.14 | Shirik | ok no I don't see |
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| 08:40.11 | Shirik | They're making ANOTHER godzilla?! |
| 08:40.12 | Shirik | WHY |
| 08:41.07 | Nobgul|Sleep | lol |
| 08:41.10 | Nobgul|Sleep | lua> string.byte("ABCDE") |
| 08:41.10 | lua_bot | Nobgul|Sleep: 65 |
| 08:42.19 | Nobgul|Sleep | lua> for word in string.gmatch("Hello Lua user", "%a+") do print(word) end |
| 08:42.19 | lua_bot | Nobgul|Sleep: Hello, Lua, user |
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| 09:01.17 | Shirik | Do you have any idea what it is like to see on your transcript "Degree complete" |
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| 09:02.56 | mitch0 | what is a transcript and what is "degree complete" |
| 09:02.57 | mitch0 | ? |
| 09:05.21 | Shirik | really? |
| 09:06.09 | mitch0 | it's saturday yet I'm at work, I have a hangover from yesterday and I have to create an architecture diagram for 2 of the applications we wrote. take that into account |
| 09:06.34 | Shirik | transcript is the thing that tells you your progress throughout a university program |
| 09:06.39 | Shirik | all your grades, statuses, etc. |
| 09:06.58 | Shirik | "degree complete" is a status that says the degree is complete |
| 09:07.01 | mitch0 | ah, we called that "index" |
| 09:07.31 | mitch0 | shirik: in that case the answer is: yes |
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| 09:12.37 | mitch0 | gaaah I hate diagrams |
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| 09:15.31 | Shirik | you think you hate these diagrams now |
| 09:15.33 | Shirik | try using AADL |
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| 09:24.11 | mitch0 | I hate how that guy looks at me on the top of every wikipedia page |
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| 11:15.00 | harl | hi |
| 11:16.52 | foxlit | Torhal: :( |
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| 12:27.17 | AndoBot | Hi |
| 12:27.18 | AndoBot | :D |
| 12:27.38 | AndoBot | also im not a bot and is anyone willing to help me? |
| 12:30.06 | AndoBot | anyone :S? |
| 12:31.22 | cbreak | I have no idea what you want, sorry. |
| 12:32.26 | AndoBot | well im trying to make the HTML object to work |
| 12:32.29 | AndoBot | MySimpleHTMLObject = CreateFrame('SimpleHTML'); |
| 12:32.29 | AndoBot | MySimpleHTMLObject:SetText('<html><body><h1>Heading1</h1><p>Test</p></body></html>'); |
| 12:32.29 | AndoBot | MySimpleHTMLObject:SetFont('Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF', 11); |
| 12:32.38 | AndoBot | this is what i got so far from the site |
| 12:32.42 | AndoBot | how do i make the frame show |
| 12:33.50 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_Show |
| 12:34.02 | cbreak | but you likely have to set it's dimensions first |
| 12:34.17 | cbreak | either by anchoring, or setting width/height and one anchor |
| 12:37.25 | airtonix | hello |
| 12:37.29 | AndoBot | how would i set the dimensions |
| 12:37.48 | cbreak | either by anchoring, or setting width/height and one anchor |
| 12:37.54 | cbreak | hi |
| 12:38.11 | AndoBot | how would i anchor it :S |
| 12:38.18 | airtonix | with a captain |
| 12:38.39 | AndoBot | <a href="LINK">TEXT</a> |
| 12:38.40 | AndoBot | ? |
| 12:38.44 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API |
| 12:38.49 | cbreak | read the docs |
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| 12:39.22 | cbreak | search for "SetPoint" |
| 12:40.33 | airtonix | what was the name of that chap |
| 12:40.36 | airtonix | who was like |
| 12:40.42 | airtonix | a code vampire |
| 12:42.17 | AndoBot | MainMenuBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "UIParent", "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0); |
| 12:42.17 | AndoBot | MainMenuBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", UIParent, "BOTTOMLEFT", 0, 0); |
| 12:42.17 | AndoBot | MainMenuBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "UIParent", "BOTTOMLEFT"); |
| 12:42.17 | AndoBot | MainMenuBar:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", "UIParent"); |
| 12:42.25 | airtonix | hoho |
| 12:42.37 | airtonix | and a bottle of rum |
| 12:42.40 | AndoBot | hmm so lets see |
| 12:42.49 | AndoBot | what can i put for the UI parent? |
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| 12:43.49 | cbreak | what ever makes sensse in your situation. |
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| 12:53.38 | Yoshimo | does someone know which event fire when the guild gets a lvl-up and when the guild gets an achievement? |
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| 13:39.13 | Computerpunk | Yoshimo, check events with G |
| 13:39.14 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 13:39.59 | Computerpunk | GUILD_PERK_UPDATEThis event is not yet documented |
| 13:40.02 | Computerpunk | this is for levelup Yoshimo. |
| 13:41.36 | Yoshimo | ok and guildachievement? |
| 13:45.05 | Nobgul | I would assume |
| 13:45.17 | Nobgul | GUILD_ACHIEVMENT_UPDATE |
| 13:45.32 | Nobgul | Its the most logical |
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| 13:47.22 | Nobgul | self:RegisterEvent("GUILD_XP_UPDATE"); |
| 13:47.22 | Nobgul | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.30 | Yoshimo | Nobgul: does that exist? |
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| 13:47.43 | Yoshimo | achivement update i mean? ;) |
| 13:47.44 | Nobgul | if ( event == "GUILD_PERK_UPDATE" ) then |
| 13:47.44 | Nobgul | +GuildMainFrame_UpdatePerks(); |
| 13:47.46 | Nobgul | Yes |
| 13:47.54 | Nobgul | Im looking in the blizzard code now |
| 13:48.09 | Nobgul | I'm looking through the xml |
| 13:50.20 | Nobgul | Working on it |
| 13:51.21 | Nobgul | i think i need to restatrt my pc |
| 13:51.25 | Nobgul | Its moving backwards |
| 13:52.17 | Nobgul | GUILD = { "GUILD_ACHIEVEMENT" }, |
| 13:53.04 | Nobgul | Thats all i can find |
| 13:53.10 | Nobgul | http://www.isoverninethousand.info/paste/index.php/view/98645282 |
| 13:53.21 | Nobgul | If you wanna see what may be the latest diff |
| 13:53.51 | Nobgul | and naw its not |
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| 13:54.55 | Nobgul | There is a chat function for them |
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| 14:15.47 | airtonix | victim of marketing based operating system : windows management interface temperature control library. |
| 14:15.50 | airtonix | thats so pro |
| 14:16.16 | airtonix | am i wrong? or will microsoft never include this in windows? |
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| 14:17.23 | airtonix | if i'm wrong, i'd like to see some wmi (c#,javascript) code that creates a running log of temperature data |
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| 14:27.27 | Industrial | How do I complete "Defending the Rift" |
| 14:27.32 | Industrial | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=26194#comments |
| 14:27.37 | Thunder_Child | you defend the rift |
| 14:27.42 | Industrial | relogging etc doesn't seem to work, NPC's keep despawning |
| 14:27.45 | Industrial | bugged quest |
| 14:27.46 | Industrial | :( |
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| 14:30.16 | Fisker | jnwhiteh my man |
| 14:30.36 | Nobgul | Industrial, Just wait |
| 14:30.46 | Nobgul | it took me like 10 mins for it to compleate |
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| 14:37.19 | Industrial | Nobgul: -_- but the NPC's are all gone.. its just a big cutscene? howmany loops will it make around the vortex... |
| 14:39.22 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 14:39.25 | Nobgul | thats weird |
| 14:40.08 | Industrial | like I said, its bugged |
| 14:40.16 | Industrial | breath starts to tick, most people die |
| 14:40.26 | Industrial | the door up top, if you touch it the breath bar will go away |
| 14:40.39 | Industrial | and then just nothing, it makes endless loops around the vortex |
| 14:40.59 | Industrial | if I abandon and redo it it will just do the same thing |
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| 15:08.20 | mikma | GAH, need mining nodes for cataclysm :P |
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| 15:09.20 | DJJeff | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMxW36WbW6M is now a required video before any raid |
| 15:11.10 | airtonix | fisker |
| 15:11.33 | Wobin | DJJeff: unless you're running karazhan |
| 15:11.50 | DJJeff | I miss kara *crys* |
| 15:12.26 | Wobin | in which case: http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ is required watching |
| 15:12.49 | DJJeff | "get out of the fire" is a great video tho |
| 15:13.11 | DJJeff | ytmnd has ads now? |
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| 15:20.15 | airtonix | wut? |
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| 15:23.19 | Amarande | dammit, still no update for pitbull yet :( |
| 15:23.23 | Amarande | I may have to go back to X-Perl |
| 15:23.43 | Amarande | the one bug in dungeons is really quite annoying with people bailing as easily as they do :S |
| 15:25.44 | airtonix | qqmoar |
| 15:26.00 | airtonix | what is the problem by the way |
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| 15:30.12 | Amarande | airtonix: when someone leaves or enters a party during a random dungeon group, the party unit frames show incorrect information until you reloadui |
| 15:30.27 | airtonix | incorrect? |
| 15:30.50 | Amarande | yeah, like the role and class information in particular gets all wonked up |
| 15:30.57 | airtonix | and when you say "random" you really mean "any" |
| 15:31.28 | Amarande | and I'm really not sure what the bug *is*. |
| 15:31.34 | Amarande | it didn't start until 4.0.3a. |
| 15:31.50 | Amarande | but I'm not sure what was changed with unit frame API between 4.0.3 and 4.0.3a |
| 15:31.55 | airtonix | so if a priest drops during the tanks pull, the priest turns in to a mage? |
| 15:32.15 | Amarande | airtonix: sometimes, depending on who else is in the party and where the mage was |
| 15:32.34 | Amarande | or you can have a tank, a mage, and someone named Tom, and they can be separate characters, and next thing the frames think there's a mage named Tom who is a tank |
| 15:32.53 | airtonix | i would a) create a screencast of it, and b) submit bugsack report to the pitbull issue list |
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| 15:44.23 | Amarande | mmmm, 20k+ obliterate crits now |
| 15:53.14 | Amarande | also, I'm really beginning to think they need to consistently do away with the tag system for some of these "event" type fights (some do, some don't) |
| 15:53.41 | Amarande | it's creating an awful lot of bottlenecks, especially with the new zone designs where you only usually have 2-3 quests you can work on at a time, not like Northrend where you often could have a full log to work on while circling around a zone |
| 15:56.46 | Amarande | they're not even consistent about it now, though. in some cases you must get the tag on the named mob in order to get credit for its defeat, in some other cases simply being around when the defeat conditions are fulfilled is enough |
| 15:59.12 | Amarande | on a stranger note, is anyone else getting two progress bars for no apparent reason when looking at [Sinking into Vashj'ir]? |
| 16:03.32 | mitchnull | anyone using vuhdo? |
| 16:11.20 | airtonix | no |
| 16:13.09 | Nobgul | would a ilevel 318 to 333 give me a overall 1 point boos in ilevel u think? |
| 16:18.01 | cbreak | weighted average? |
| 16:18.26 | cbreak | I'd say it gives you an overal boost of 15 |
| 16:18.40 | cbreak | but depending on the formula you use, it could be 0 |
| 16:22.09 | Fisker | it's an average of your highest ilevel gear |
| 16:33.27 | |Jelly| | Amarande: Yes |
| 16:43.22 | foxlit | It's a pity they killed AVR :/ |
| 16:43.44 | foxlit | Some 3d drawing would be awesome for archeology |
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| 16:49.55 | nevcairiel | It never really worked well out doors |
| 16:50.04 | nevcairiel | or any place that doesnt have a plain floor |
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| 16:54.34 | nevcairiel | anyone know if the guild level mount speed bonus works with druid flying form? |
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| 16:55.52 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: it feels like it to me |
| 16:55.56 | Thunder_Child | but i dont happen to have a move speed add atm |
| 16:56.10 | Thunder_Child | addon* |
| 16:57.42 | Fisker | kisses Thunder_Child |
| 16:58.14 | Thunder_Child | returns the flavor |
| 16:58.30 | Jamash | gross |
| 17:00.08 | Jamash | so I logged on my DK to do some herbing, and ended up leveling him to 82 instead :-/ |
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| 17:08.31 | Fisker | you could've done both Jamash |
| 17:08.56 | Jamash | well, I tried but there weren't a lot of herbs in hyjal |
| 17:09.03 | Jamash | which seems weird to me |
| 17:11.02 | nevcairiel | someone probably herbed them all |
| 17:11.55 | Fisker | there's some issues with phasing it appears as well |
| 17:12.10 | Fisker | so resource nodes have a tendency to disappear |
| 17:14.37 | Amarande | Fisker: I don't think that's the nodes getting phased |
| 17:14.47 | Amarande | I think that's people in a different phase that you can't see taking the same nodes ;) |
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| 17:15.22 | Amarande | I saw that in Stormpeaks too in LK, it's nothing new |
| 17:15.37 | Fisker | no Amarande |
| 17:17.07 | Fisker | i'm talking about a herb being visible in some spots (another phase) but when you get to close you enter the other phase, and the herb is gone |
| 17:20.07 | nevcairiel | i saw that in deepholm sometimes |
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| 17:25.20 | Amarande | Fisker, does it come back when you exit the phase or is it still gone? |
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| 18:21.11 | Adys | tip of the day: Ring of Frost is awesome on the gilblin groups in TotT |
| 18:26.04 | Shirik | Anyone good with X86 assembly? |
| 18:26.12 | Shirik | I'm trying to do something and I see this |
| 18:26.26 | Shirik | 0057AB27 |> \6A 0A PUSH 0A |
| 18:26.26 | Shirik | 0057AB29 |. 58 POP EAX |
| 18:26.38 | Shirik | I'm not sure why that's not just MOV EAX, 0A |
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| 18:36.15 | cogwheel | tattered dreadmist mantle makes me wish there was a "show chestpiece" checkbox for my worgen -_- |
| 18:36.17 | mikma | assembly <3 |
| 18:36.47 | cogwheel | Shirik: maybe to do something magical with flags? |
| 18:37.31 | cogwheel | not that i fit your criteria any more ... |
| 18:38.51 | Shirik | I think I found it |
| 18:39.06 | olafski | at which level did we get armor specialization again, was it 40 or 50? wowhead is only loading white pages with black text, no styling or scripting so I can't see a thing :/ |
| 18:39.30 | Shirik | MOV EAX, 0A is 5 bytes |
| 18:39.36 | Shirik | PUSH 0A, POP EAX is 3 bytes |
| 18:42.55 | Adys | jnwhiteh |
| 18:42.57 | Adys | bitlbee is awesome |
| 18:43.00 | Adys | did i mention that? |
| 18:51.21 | Fisker | naw |
| 18:51.23 | Fisker | but msn do suck |
| 18:53.45 | cbreak | doesn't push and pop access memory? |
| 18:53.56 | cbreak | so it's probably much slower than just writing to a register |
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| 19:06.19 | Xinhuan | the 5 byte instruction probably executes faster though, but at the cost of larger program size |
| 19:10.13 | foxlit | "323 average item level (328 equipped)" way to go, community site |
| 19:11.02 | Xinhuan | how can the equipped be higher |
| 19:11.12 | Xinhuan | since the average is the "bis" of every slot |
| 19:11.43 | nevcairiel | the numbers are probably switched around |
| 19:13.09 | Dagmar | Well... Just got "Stood In The Fire" for teleporting into Uldum. |
| 19:13.20 | Dagmar | The dragon *finally* shows his face |
| 19:13.29 | Xinhuan | got it weeks ago ;p |
| 19:13.32 | Xinhuan | 3 times even lol |
| 19:14.42 | ckknight | cbreak: that's pushing to the stack, which should be pretty damn efficient. |
| 19:18.11 | Xinhuan | 2 instructions push/pop can't be more efficient than a single copying a number from the instruction stream to a register |
| 19:21.57 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:22.32 | mitchnull | unless the cpu is smart enough to realize that it's just a shorter version of mov eax, 5 (or whatever the example was) :) |
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| 19:25.21 | foxlit | anyway, caches |
| 19:26.59 | Xinhuan | its not |
| 19:27.53 | Xinhuan | because push/poping actually writes to the stack, as stack instruction tricks could possibly be used |
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| 19:55.12 | Industrial | Restart wow half-way your questing to install an addon |
| 19:55.18 | Industrial | wait an hour or two in the queue |
| 19:55.21 | Industrial | >_> |
| 19:59.42 | bleeter | loves a good stack instruction trick in the morning |
| 20:00.43 | bleeter | reminds self to post a moan re 3dvision to the 'new' suggestion forums |
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| 20:33.56 | Fisker | Industrial |
| 20:33.59 | Fisker | you are a n00b |
| 20:34.09 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 20:36.56 | Industrial | 800 -> 192 in 42 mins |
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| 21:21.19 | tem | holy shit |
| 21:21.33 | tem | kanye west actually says "no homo" in a song |
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| 21:21.44 | tem | I am having a really hard time believing he meant it ironically |
| 21:21.52 | bleeter | who? |
| 21:22.21 | tem | I figured it was something they made up to make fun of the homophobia of the rap culture |
| 21:22.33 | bleeter | lol |
| 21:22.38 | tem | but I guess it came straight from the mouth of kanye himself |
| 21:22.42 | Fisker | sauce tem |
| 21:23.02 | tem | it's in Run this town |
| 21:23.12 | tem | kanye does a little thing near the end |
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| 21:37.58 | Fisker | fondles tekkub |
| 21:38.00 | Fisker | err |
| 21:38.02 | Fisker | fondles tem |
| 21:38.04 | Fisker | no homo btw |
| 21:38.19 | tekkub | freudian fondling |
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| 21:38.42 | cbreak | no homo? Inter species fondling? |
| 21:40.58 | Fisker | i saw what you did there cbreak |
| 21:44.48 | Torhal | foxlit: Why did you frown at me this morning? |
| 21:45.10 | Fisker | because you suc |
| 21:45.12 | Fisker | with a k |
| 21:45.20 | Fisker | (nice save) |
| 21:45.23 | foxlit | Torhal: "The more entries in _G, the more time it takes to find a specific entry. " |
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| 21:46.36 | cbreak | luckily, _G is a hash table, so access is more or less O(1) :) |
| 21:47.16 | Torhal | Bah. Tell that to everyone else, then. It's "common knowledge" I picked up along the way. |
| 21:47.25 | Torhal | I never looked at the Lua implementation of the global environment. |
| 21:47.41 | Torhal | Err...implementation of the Lua global environment. |
| 21:48.00 | foxlit | a table is a table is a table :) |
| 21:49.00 | Torhal | Truth. |
| 21:50.02 | orgevo_desktop | unless there's a lot of bookkeeping that's done when tracking references to global tables [as opposed to references to locals] |
| 21:50.28 | cbreak | accessing a table is more expensive than accessing a local |
| 21:51.11 | orgevo_desktop | how do you know? |
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| 21:51.25 | drag0nius | hello |
| 21:51.44 | drag0nius | guys, is there way to constantly check player's HP and re-bind buttons to different macros? |
| 21:51.45 | foxlit | wow, they really cut down the kelp forest quest lines |
| 21:51.54 | cbreak | I discussed with people who know how lua works :) |
| 21:52.11 | orgevo_desktop | (btw, not being challenging - just wondering how you worked that out) |
| 21:52.27 | drag0nius | like every 5 sec check if it should switch binding to healing button |
| 21:52.47 | cbreak | foxlit: they totally butchered the Stalvan questline :( |
| 21:53.04 | Yssaril | orgevo_desktop: you can try it timing how long it takes to access 10000 global vers 10000 local functions |
| 21:53.51 | foxlit | Locals are cheap because you know where they are at compile time |
| 21:54.37 | foxlit | Tables are marginally harder because key lookup is one or more extra steps. |
| 21:55.43 | cbreak | it can even potentially invoke a meta method |
| 21:55.53 | cbreak | then all guesses about timing are out of the window |
| 21:56.00 | orgevo_desktop | oh i would think for the sake of benchmarking, you'd not want any key lookups, as that would certainly introduce additional cycles |
| 22:01.45 | orgevo_desktop | regarding locals being cheap due to knowing where they are (i'm guessing you mean where they're being stored in memory...?), that makes sense, but there are quite a few designs that all make enough sense... It really just depends on how that language implements the feature.... My last job, one of my areas was maintaining the script compiler/interpreter for our proprietary scripting language. In that language, it was irreleva |
| 22:02.40 | cbreak | in lua, the globals table is just a table |
| 22:02.43 | orgevo_desktop | irrelevant with regards to the number of cycles required to lookup a variable name, anyway |
| 22:02.54 | cbreak | locals are not accessed via name |
| 22:03.08 | cbreak | table values are, with the name as key |
| 22:04.53 | zenzelezz | so there was this program on Discovery about a trawler that went down; 42 of 47 crew survived. The program ends, the credits scroll by, and the sponsor message appears, from an online betting site... "Do you feel lucky? Well do you, ponk?" (yes, his pronunciation sounded like "ponk") |
| 22:08.28 | orgevo_desktop | Humm, yeah I see what you're saying. Though I can't imagine that accessing a global variable actually requires two variable lookups... admittedly I don't know much about the internals of lua, but on the surface it seems like it would be strange if there wasn't an optimization for indexing the special global table |
| 22:08.49 | cog|away | jnwhiteh: Iriel: Legorol: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/mob_ratio.png |
| 22:09.18 | cogwheel | Seems to be a bit of a creeper bias |
| 22:09.36 | zenzelezz | cogwheel: for the uninitiated among us, what does that say about mobs? |
| 22:09.47 | cogwheel | i'm assuming spawn rate |
| 22:10.00 | cogwheel | though if their drop rates differ then nothing |
| 22:10.14 | zenzelezz | ah, so those things are from different creatures? |
| 22:10.18 | cogwheel | yep |
| 22:10.27 | cogwheel | creepers, skeletons, zombies, and spiders L to R |
| 22:11.13 | cogwheel | actually strike that... |
| 22:11.30 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 22:11.32 | cogwheel | i just realized some of those mats were there before i started collecting from my trap |
| 22:11.58 | cbreak | orgevo_desktop: the globals table is not special |
| 22:12.06 | cogwheel | ohay |
| 22:12.15 | zenzelezz | WoW's still not honoring my "Don't consolidate buffs"-setting on load |
| 22:12.18 | Adys | I'm stuck at 59 quests in deepholm. I've looked in most of the zone for a questgiver. Any advice? |
| 22:12.30 | Adys | i got stuck after delivering the first world pillar fragment |
| 22:14.18 | zenzelezz | I see I'm not the only one... http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1127156885#1 |
| 22:14.59 | orgevo_desktop | cbreak: oh? what causes "naked" variable references to index the global table? (And as I'm asking that, I'm thinking the answer is likely related to fenv, which I'm a bit fuzzy on) |
| 22:15.15 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 22:15.27 | cogwheel | ohay |
| 22:15.30 | cbreak | they just access the environment, yes |
| 22:16.50 | Iriel | cogwheel: heh, is your field equipment set up to catch an unbiased sample? |
| 22:17.45 | zenzelezz | also, Apocalypse Now still owns |
| 22:18.30 | cogwheel | Iriel: essentially a stack of 17x17x3 spawning floors |
| 22:18.40 | cogwheel | with water at the edges to draw mobs down a chute into lava |
| 22:18.47 | cogwheel | http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=55552 |
| 22:19.35 | cogwheel | i'm now fairly certain the apparent bias was just from our existing stock of gunpowder |
| 22:19.48 | cogwheel | otherwise they look fairly even except the spiders |
| 22:20.04 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 22:20.11 | Fisker | me me me |
| 22:20.21 | cogwheel | ewe ewe ewe |
| 22:20.44 | Ackis | is mount up (guild perk, level 3) multiplicative or additive? |
| 22:21.50 | Amarande | Ackis: most mounted speed boosts are multiplicative ... I can't see a logical reason they'd make that one any different. |
| 22:21.52 | Iriel | In the absence of spawner tiles, the distribution is supposed to be even |
| 22:22.34 | Amarande | will ARL be updated for cata, btw? |
| 22:22.59 | Amarande | For me, of course, Mount Up is absolutely and utterly useless. :( |
| 22:23.32 | cogwheel | Iriel: with how far spiders can jump and how wide they are, i wouldn't be surprised if the 3-wide channels and 3x3 chutes were affecting it |
| 22:23.38 | Amarande | I'm trying to remember which classes it's useful for ... I know it's worthless for hunters and frost DKs. |
| 22:23.44 | Ackis | Amarande: it's slowly being populated (the db)... it just really sucks that there's very little special recipes |
| 22:23.53 | Amarande | BM hunters, anyway |
| 22:26.48 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 22:26.51 | orgevo_desktop | cbreak: what kind of numbers did you see when you compared the time it took to iterate 10000 times while referencing a local vs. a table member? in the scripting language i mentioned earlier, one of the most common misconceptions that we'd see with new clients was trying to micro-optimize the script VM, going out of their way to access variables a certain way because logically, it was faster. However, benchmarking showed a negl |
| 22:26.52 | Jamash | wait, they're multiplicative? I always assumed that a 10% buff would increase 310% to 320% |
| 22:26.54 | cogwheel | ohay |
| 22:27.08 | cbreak | I didn't benchmark it |
| 22:27.24 | Yssaril | Jamash: mount speed increases have always been multiplicative in the past |
| 22:28.57 | Amarande | ok, what's the best flight approach trajectory to get to Stockades with the least chance of getting trashed by SW guards? |
| 22:29.30 | cbreak | just roll alliance :) |
| 22:29.31 | orgevo_desktop | ah...occasionally we would come across a script construct that *was* way out of whack performance-wise. Thought maybe the case you mentioned might be something like that, for wowlua... |
| 22:29.36 | cbreak | do guards see invisible? |
| 22:29.50 | Jamash | so, with master riding, Mount Up should result in a total speed of 451% of base run speed? (310%+100%)*110%? |
| 22:29.51 | Amarande | I'm not sure, actually. :S |
| 22:29.52 | orgevo_desktop | if they have a little circle over their heads |
| 22:30.07 | Amarande | also, do the flying guards use normal or epic flying mounts? |
| 22:30.51 | orgevo_desktop | little blue circle above their heads means they can see through stealth of a player quite a few levels higher than they are...possibly a player of any level, regardless of their level (I dunno for sure - never really tested that, heh) |
| 22:31.32 | orgevo_desktop | no NPCs can see invisible, though |
| 22:31.59 | orgevo_desktop | if you're referring to the mage spell |
| 22:32.30 | cbreak | I was proposing possible means to intrude |
| 22:32.49 | Amarande | yeah, now that Alliance 85's tend to congregate *IN SW* |
| 22:33.06 | Amarande | how to get the Stocks achievement on a DK without having to do a ton of rated PvP in order to have resilience through the roof :) |
| 22:33.27 | Amarande | plus, flying guards now. |
| 22:33.34 | cbreak | I did the low level orgrimmar instance with my mage a long time ago |
| 22:33.42 | orgevo_desktop | yeah, the new guards really add quite a bit more spice to storming into an enemy faction's city, don't they? :P |
| 22:33.44 | Amarande | and I'm guessing if you get ganked you *still* have to come all the way back from the eastern part of Elwynn? |
| 22:33.44 | cbreak | died twice entering it |
| 22:33.53 | cbreak | those idiot orcs built a maze instead of a city |
| 22:34.09 | orgevo_desktop | lol |
| 22:34.19 | orgevo_desktop | I ranted about the same thing when I originally switched over to horde |
| 22:34.34 | Amarande | I've been Horde for years, still don't like Org much and I like it less now |
| 22:34.42 | cbreak | not as bad as the undead |
| 22:35.32 | orgevo_desktop | Undercity is the easiest one - it's just a circle |
| 22:35.46 | cbreak | my guild ran with level 1 gnomes to their bank. a full raid full of people |
| 22:36.00 | cbreak | I think in the end, most of us were level 3 or 4 from zone discovery XP |
| 22:36.01 | orgevo_desktop | pretty hard to get lost in a circle. I've always had a special hatred for TB tho. I always seem to end up on the wrong rise.. |
| 22:36.10 | cbreak | and only two dozen or so managed to actually die in the bank |
| 22:36.16 | cbreak | all others got lost along the way :( |
| 22:36.21 | cbreak | damn maze |
| 22:36.27 | cbreak | too many layers |
| 22:36.44 | orgevo_desktop | heh |
| 22:36.47 | orgevo_desktop | well |
| 22:37.42 | orgevo_desktop | i'll give you that horde cities are retarded warrens of twists and turns, but i mean....if you can't find the middle of a circle, you might be riding the short bus to school |
| 22:38.29 | cbreak | the center wasn't the problem |
| 22:38.32 | cbreak | the layer was |
| 22:38.39 | orgevo_desktop | which way did you come in? |
| 22:38.44 | cbreak | don't remember |
| 22:38.50 | orgevo_desktop | i'm guessing through the cave outside the city? |
| 22:38.53 | cbreak | I think we used those elevators that vanish all the time |
| 22:39.48 | orgevo_desktop | haha, first couple of days after switching to horde, I was getting really pissed at those elevators cuz I couldn't figure out how other players were making them open |
| 22:39.49 | orgevo_desktop | rofl |
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| 22:43.36 | orgevo_desktop | (the joke being, in case it make sense why that was funny, is that they're on a timer - but I would just sit in the middle of the 3, wait for one to open and run towards it...naturally i would never make it in time - it would have been obvious that it was timed except that every time one opened, another player was either getting in or out) |
| 22:47.09 | Fisker | jerks orgevo |
| 22:47.26 | orgevo_desktop | eh? |
| 22:47.39 | orgevo_desktop | doh - "in case it didn't** make sense why that..." |
| 22:48.33 | Yssaril | orgevo: have you experiance the elevator of doom yet in UC? |
| 22:49.19 | zenzelezz | every horde must |
| 22:49.23 | zenzelezz | it's a rite of passage |
| 22:49.47 | Yssaril | why do you think they added some to ogrimmar :) |
| 22:49.55 | Jamash | I'm falliiiiiiiiiing splat you have died |
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| 22:50.12 | zenzelezz | Yes! I made iiiiiiiiiiii*splat* |
| 22:50.28 | Jamash | at least uc has doors to sort of prevent you from killing yourself |
| 22:50.38 | zenzelezz | that never stopped anyone! |
| 22:50.59 | Jamash | org is pretty bad now |
| 22:51.03 | Jamash | tb is of course the worst |
| 22:51.20 | orgevo_desktop | heh yeah the worst is when you're trying to exit the elevator on a mount, can't fit, and end up falling when the elevator goes down |
| 22:51.32 | zenzelezz | I find myself running around Vashj'ir because it's so much cooler than using the sea horse :-o |
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| 22:59.09 | Hirsute | Bwahahahaha: "It is no longer possible for an ill-mannered person of the opposing faction to one-shot a flight trainer in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, which in turn made the 500 players standing on top of the flight trainer with their mammoths really sad." |
| 22:59.21 | A-KO | lol |
| 22:59.22 | A-KO | yeah |
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| 23:42.13 | Primer | What's the consensus on mastery? Should we reforge/gear for it? |
| 23:42.51 | cbreak | you honestly expect a consensus on that? |
| 23:42.59 | Primer | yes |
| 23:43.11 | cbreak | there are like 30 masteries |
| 23:43.40 | cbreak | hmm... well, 3 per class anyway |
| 23:44.10 | Primer | Perhaps I should have asked for opinions |
| 23:44.19 | Primer | Right now I'm struggling in instances as a resto druid |
| 23:44.29 | Primer | I'm hoping that gear will make that better |
| 23:44.43 | cbreak | from what I have seen, it's worth it as arcane mage :) |
| 23:45.02 | cbreak | but there's likely a non-trivial interdepencency with other stats |
| 23:45.35 | Primer | My main problem is going OOM a lot |
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| 23:48.02 | Kenuvis | Hello! I have a little question: Is it possible to list all Units in range? (maybe with GUID) |
| 23:48.09 | cbreak | no |
| 23:48.20 | Primer | players in a raid, yes |
| 23:48.30 | Primer | npcs, no |
| 23:48.38 | Kenuvis | mh..ok, thanks |
| 23:49.17 | Industrial | I cant seem to get this quest http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:At_the_Stonemother%27s_Call |
| 23:49.39 | Industrial | I just completed the previous three and I dont get the new one, the NPC isn't handing it out. no exclamation marks |
| 23:50.21 | Kenuvis | Can I extract the GUID from the nameplates ? |
| 23:54.40 | Sintacks | not without mousing over them |
| 23:54.42 | Sintacks | i thibnk |
| 23:55.03 | cbreak | Kenuvis: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGUID |
| 23:55.10 | cbreak | use "mouseover" |
| 23:56.43 | Kenuvis | mh...thank you |
