| 00:06.07 | Amarande | Jerub: unfortunately, those 10 ilvls are the issue here :) |
| 00:06.16 | Jerub | Amarande: nah. |
| 00:06.20 | Amarande | 272 greens are often not upgrades over 264 purples, but apparently people are forced to accept the greens in order to qualify for dungeons |
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| 00:06.38 | Jerub | i've foundt they're pretty much the same, unless the 264 is heroic. |
| 00:06.49 | Amarande | yeah, many of my 264's are |
| 00:07.06 | Amarande | Most, probably, since we really didn't do much 25 in our guild |
| 00:08.40 | Jerub | Amarande: heroic midnight sun hasn't been upgraded yet, even after seeing stuff drop in throne of ties. |
| 00:08.44 | Jerub | er tides. |
| 00:10.58 | Fisker | Amarande except for two things |
| 00:11.14 | Fisker | 1) The item level you're being enforced is not just the gear you wear |
| 00:11.42 | Fisker | 2) The gear reset part is irrelevant, and actually there are some not insignificant hp upgrades again |
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| 00:20.16 | Amarande | yeah, apparently the trick is to hold onto your quest rewards but wear the ICC stuff |
| 00:20.53 | Amarande | Fisker: actually, what I'm seeing is that often there's a wee bit more STR and a wee bit less Stam on the 272's |
| 00:21.15 | Amarande | but never enough extra to make up for enchants (which you won't put on leveling greens, of course) or gems |
| 00:21.22 | Amarande | (as these greens don't have sockets) |
| 00:22.49 | Jerub | Amarande: you're looking at plate |
| 00:22.56 | Jerub | Amarande: but cloth has the same stam levels |
| 00:23.09 | Jerub | Amarande: which means they're getting a humungous boost |
| 00:23.21 | Amarande | Jerub: yeah, I've been seeing cloth BoE's that look very good for my warlock and have been sending them to her |
| 00:23.34 | Industrial | "That's it, I think I've done it!" -- Dilbert |
| 00:23.36 | Amarande | Cloth probably benefits better from Vashj'ir then |
| 00:23.43 | Industrial | "That's not the word on the street" -- Dogbert |
| 00:23.44 | Fisker | i'm getting ganked :( |
| 00:23.45 | Industrial | ke ke ke |
| 00:23.55 | Amarande | Plate barely gets anything, it looks like mostly the upshot is that it's shuffling out crit and haste and giving me mastery and expertise |
| 00:24.34 | Amarande | however, most of my present plate is reforged to mastery so it's not as big a mastery upgrade, and expertise ... is it really of much use before you reach raiding level? |
| 00:25.12 | sintAcks | if you do dungeons while you quest, it is |
| 00:25.17 | sintAcks | to an extent |
| 00:25.25 | Jerub | Amarande: what i recall seeing said was that it would be 84 quest rewards before you had clear upgrades. |
| 00:25.38 | Jerub | and at 84 there are quest blue rewards that upgrade every single slot for every single spec. |
| 00:25.42 | Amarande | Jerub: *fun* |
| 00:25.44 | Jerub | that's what was said, at least. |
| 00:25.58 | Jerub | also, anyone who raided will not have any problem in cata with gear. |
| 00:26.14 | Jerub | so stop talking, go back and level your dk or whatever you're playing |
| 00:26.20 | Amarande | except that you have to know how the ilvl average system works so you can game it, particularly from 81-83 |
| 00:26.34 | Jerub | we need more high level dks, because they're a dying species, or something. |
| 00:26.44 | Amarande | and I thought Blizzard was trying to move away from meta stuff like that by simplifying the stats etc. |
| 00:26.46 | Sintacks | There are too many DKs on Area 52 |
| 00:26.50 | Jerub | shrug. my shaman is in wotlk questing blues and greens |
| 00:26.53 | Jerub | she's doing fine |
| 00:27.11 | Jerub | was doing hyjal on her yesterday |
| 00:28.27 | Amarande | also, how do you get out of vashj'ir without portals/Death Gate/etc.? |
| 00:28.40 | Sintacks | flight path to UC |
| 00:28.42 | Xyphoid | god deepholm is pretty to fly around |
| 00:28.48 | Amarande | I tried to surface, PoF and fly away once, but eventually had to put down PoF and Death Gate because fatigue was about to get me |
| 00:29.21 | Sintacks | I flew out of it. I have master flying though. |
| 00:29.35 | Sintacks | that extra 30% flying speed might help. i did cut it close to not making it out of fatigue |
| 00:30.02 | Xyphoid | i thought the swamp looked funny, went to the edge, and woah it's made of mercury, dripping down in huge blobs |
| 00:33.22 | Sintacks | :| I got a gun that is quite a big upgrade in stats... but mut rogues don't use guns... we need thrown for Fan of Knives :| |
| 00:39.17 | Sintacks | There is no reason to have LibHealComm any more is there... no one still uses it right.... |
| 00:40.00 | Fisker | i use you |
| 00:40.07 | clever | is it posible to rebind 1, 2, and 3 for a moment, then let them go back to normal? |
| 00:40.16 | clever | (out of combat of course) |
| 00:40.30 | Jerub | Sintacks: um, if i had an addon that would show resurections on my built in raid frames, i'd use it. |
| 00:40.39 | clever | posibly in such a way that it wont have any effect when in combat |
| 00:40.54 | Jerub | clever: you can easily make it so that 1 2 and 3 do something idfferent when you hold a modifier key |
| 00:41.17 | Sintacks | wat Jerub. that confused me for some reasno |
| 00:41.43 | Jerub | Sintacks: libhealcomm was responsible for a thing that showed me who was ressing who in raids. |
| 00:41.50 | clever | Jerub: yeah i know that, wanted to make things simpler so shift/ctl isnt needed |
| 00:41.51 | Jerub | Sintacks: i want it back. |
| 00:42.02 | Jerub | clever: you can change which bar is displayed maybe? |
| 00:42.08 | Sintacks | I thought things that showed res'd used another lib for resses |
| 00:42.08 | Jerub | what's the use-case? |
| 00:42.32 | Jerub | oh really? |
| 00:42.32 | Sintacks | I thought so |
| 00:42.32 | clever | Jerub: i want the user to answer a multiple choice question (3 choices) every time he casts survey |
| 00:42.59 | Jerub | oh right. |
| 00:43.00 | Sintacks | Well. idk. Last time I was in ICC before cata, I had spam.. something. Addon that showed how spammy the addon channel was, and there was nothing in it about libhealcomm |
| 00:43.00 | clever | Jerub: but i dont really want it to interfere with combat either (dont want to kill the guy) |
| 00:43.02 | Jerub | i have a survey bar :P |
| 00:43.23 | clever | Jerub: yeah i have a second bar for professions and surveying |
| 00:43.34 | Jerub | Sintacks: okay, i don't know either. i just know that oUF_freebgrid showed me it. :) |
| 00:43.39 | clever | but it seems like a poor design to give the user 3 buttons he has to manualy place on the action bar |
| 00:43.45 | Jerub | clever: and it's got my "kill low level mob" buttons on it. |
| 00:43.59 | clever | i just leave my ghoul out |
| 00:44.03 | clever | he defends me automaticaly |
| 00:44.25 | clever | i'm just looking for a 1/2/3 choice to come up, easy to access, and go away when its done |
| 00:44.33 | clever | so it doesnt eat a whole 3 buttons on the action bar |
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| 00:49.52 | clever | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetOverrideBinding looks like what i want |
| 00:50.34 | clever | just not sure if it can be removed upon entering combat |
| 00:50.39 | clever | will have to test it out |
| 00:58.59 | Amarande | btw, is Vashj'ir eligible for nuking by Deathwing or is that beyond his ability? :) |
| 01:00.21 | clever | Amarande: i was under the impression that he stopped that on the 7th |
| 01:01.00 | clever | technicaly, everything is unlocked now and you could start a raid against him i believe |
| 01:01.24 | clever | its just a question of are the players geared up to finish it |
| 01:01.44 | clever | can you even find 25 85's? :P |
| 01:02.41 | Xyphoid | deathwing won't be in a raid instance until a later tier |
| 01:03.00 | clever | Sintacks: i recently added that to my own addon just to peek, and i can see all kinds of juicy data |
| 01:03.19 | clever | some addons will PM me there version when i request it, others spam guild chat every 5 seconds constantly |
| 01:03.41 | Sintacks | clever, he keeps doing that until he's killed. Which won't be until that patch goes live. |
| 01:03.50 | clever | Sintacks: ahh |
| 01:04.01 | clever | per realm or globaly? |
| 01:04.18 | Sintacks | per realm i would think |
| 01:04.31 | Sintacks | kind of like the video for killing Lich King was |
| 01:04.59 | Sintacks | So, in theory, we've got months to get that achievement. And a blue said the other day, you can get it by walking into the fire he left where he last was. |
| 01:05.25 | clever | i read several posts about that not working |
| 01:05.35 | clever | myself, i was fishing in wetlands and he roasted me and the fish:P |
| 01:05.53 | clever | good way to pass time while you wait |
| 01:07.30 | Amarande | Yeah, I'm still wondering if the underwater zone is eligible :) |
| 01:07.37 | Amarande | or if you're safe in Vashj'ir |
| 01:07.39 | clever | SetOverrideBinding does appear to work for what i want, just not sure how well i can undo it |
| 01:07.53 | clever | the bigget question, do you want to be safe? |
| 01:08.06 | clever | if your trying to get roasted, you might want to focus on an above water zone like hyjal |
| 01:09.10 | Xyphoid | has he been seen in cata zones at all? i was under the impression it was pre-cata only. i've only been roasted in WPL myself though. |
| 01:09.27 | Sintacks | Blues have said there isn't a point in waiting around in a certain zone. He can hit any zone (but there ist hat question about Vashj'ir) |
| 01:09.51 | Sintacks | I've not heard of him hitting any zone on Area 52, actually |
| 01:10.14 | clever | ive heard that if you run around trying to find him, your more likely to leave a zone just as he shows up |
| 01:10.28 | clever | he could be torching every zone you visit, 5 minutes later:P |
| 01:10.41 | clever | just sit still and wait for the end to come! |
| 01:11.23 | Sintacks | not really sit still. but don't go hunting and waiting. just play the game, and he will come. or something |
| 01:11.48 | Sintacks | Ha. Maybe there is the achiemvent for dying in fire, and you get a feat of strength for not dying in fire |
| 01:11.51 | clever | grab one of the quest achievements for a zone and get crackin :P |
| 01:12.16 | clever | another way to spend time in the zone while waiting |
| 01:12.53 | Sintacks | so. Vashj'ir or Mount Hyjal for leveling at 80 at first... |
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| 01:13.45 | Sintacks | i went vashj'ir on main. hated the underwater shit. |
| 01:14.27 | clever | it crippled my 2nd backup system |
| 01:14.38 | clever | though now that ive fixed the 1st backup computer, its running better |
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| 01:15.04 | Xyphoid | i've only done hyjal, it's pretty nice |
| 01:16.02 | Fisker | i'm a sick person Jerub |
| 01:16.43 | Amarande | I went Vashj'ir. This way I don't need to see Orgrimmar much at all anymore if ever now that I'm there, and Hyjal has two big drawbacks. |
| 01:16.45 | Sintacks | i'm fucking tired of out of memory errors when I've got 1.3GB of free RAM and another 6 GB of free virtual memory |
| 01:17.23 | Amarande | 1) Hyjal is somewhere Deathwing can go, while I think Vashj'ir may be one of the places he can't. 2) Hyjal has jousting quests. |
| 01:17.29 | Amarande | Jousting sucks, as anyone who was around for WotLK knows. :) |
| 01:17.38 | Xyphoid | hyjal jousting is amazing |
| 01:17.39 | Sintacks | Jousting should have been #1 |
| 01:17.47 | Sintacks | I don't care if Deathwing can come. i want him to come kill me. |
| 01:18.00 | clever | Sintacks: ive only got 1gig total:( |
| 01:18.11 | Fisker | Amarande |
| 01:18.19 | Fisker | Deathwing might not be able to visit Vashj'ir |
| 01:18.25 | Fisker | But atleast he can't boil all of Hyjal |
| 01:18.32 | Sintacks | Do you crash in Org after you've been anywhere else? |
| 01:21.13 | Amarande | Fisker: there's places he can't hit in a zone? |
| 01:21.27 | Amarande | Sintacks, I try to avoid Orgrimmar entirely. :P |
| 01:21.40 | Sintacks | Deathwing's GearScore is 310k.... |
| 01:21.41 | Amarande | I don't like trying to get around it now. |
| 01:21.52 | Sintacks | I don't mind flying around Org now. |
| 01:22.05 | Amarande | And I think I might actually be able to hit 85 without seeing Org again. :) |
| 01:22.12 | Sintacks | lol |
| 01:22.19 | Fisker | dirt is a poor heat conducter Amarande |
| 01:22.22 | Fisker | water isn't |
| 01:22.25 | Sintacks | I went to deepho.. whatever after a while in Vashj'ir |
| 01:22.36 | Amarande | If I *really* wanted to avoid it, I could go up to UC, up to HF, fly to Sholazar (which I need to do ANYWAY for this week's egg), and then out the portal to Un'Goro, which is nearer Uldum than Org anyway. :D |
| 01:23.16 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: you can still use that portal? did you not turn in the quest or something? |
| 01:23.18 | Amarande | Fisker: so underground subzones are exempt, then. |
| 01:23.32 | Amarande | Arrow, I *seem* to remember it works as long as you've *had* the quest. |
| 01:23.39 | Amarande | unless they changed it in 4.0. |
| 01:23.48 | Arrowmaster | oh, i dont really remember |
| 01:23.54 | Amarande | I have to visit Sholazar later anyway since I need a new oracle egg, so I'll have a look then. |
| 01:24.13 | Jerub | there aren't any inns in the first part of vash or hyjal |
| 01:24.18 | Jerub | so i'm parking in org |
| 01:24.47 | Amarande | I had a feeling underground subzones would be exempt. Otherwise, it would be hard to explain to someone why they spontaneously dropped dead in Jaedenar. |
| 01:25.00 | Amarande | Which I seem to remember sprawls like *halfway up the zone* once you're underground. |
| 01:26.06 | clever | SetOverrideBinding(self,false,"1") seems to spawn an lua error |
| 01:26.11 | clever | as does SetOverrideBinding(self,false,"1",nil) |
| 01:26.26 | clever | 'Call with a fourth argument of nil to remove the override binding for a specific key,' |
| 01:26.31 | Arrowmaster | !api SetOverrideBinding |
| 01:26.32 | lua_bot | SetOverrideBinding: Sets an override binding for a binding command (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetOverrideBinding) |
| 01:26.47 | clever | i just quoted that page, and it says it shouldnt be giving an lua error |
| 01:26.59 | clever | 'Call with a fourth argument of nil to remove the override binding for a specific key,' |
| 01:27.03 | clever | oops, wrong paste |
| 01:27.06 | clever | 'command - Name of a key binding command, or nil to remove the override binding (string) |
| 01:27.13 | Arrowmaster | whats the error? |
| 01:27.39 | clever | Message: Interface\AddOns\clever_archaelogy\kashikoi.lua:48: Usage: SetOverrideBinding(owner, isPriority, "KEY"[, "COMMAND"]) |
| 01:28.23 | Arrowmaster | but setting works fine? |
| 01:28.37 | clever | yeah, it gets called from the bound function |
| 01:28.38 | Arrowmaster | and youve tested that it actually runs your command? |
| 01:28.49 | clever | yeah, its printing to the chatbox just fine |
| 01:29.09 | Arrowmaster | strange, maybe blizz broke something |
| 01:29.23 | clever | the [] imply that the command is optional |
| 01:29.30 | clever | thats why i tried with just 3 arguments |
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| 01:30.43 | clever | Arrowmaster: http://privatepaste.com/08e61df238 |
| 01:31.38 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 01:32.28 | Kraps | last night of chanukah :( |
| 01:32.56 | Arrowmaster | clever: how many override bindings are you creating? if its only those 3 just use ClearOverrideBindings(self) |
| 01:33.15 | clever | Arrowmaster: yeah, i was wondering if id have to resort to that |
| 01:33.28 | clever | also, can i ClearOverrideBindings when entering combat? |
| 01:33.41 | clever | wait, i see the problem |
| 01:33.44 | clever | self isnt set anymore |
| 01:34.01 | Arrowmaster | yeah just register for the event and call it |
| 01:34.11 | Amarande | hmm, am I right in suspecting this? |
| 01:34.28 | Amarande | that there are no group quests anymore outside of Outland, BC 10-20 zones, Northrend, and dungeons? |
| 01:34.32 | clever | local self = kashi_env.debug_frame should fix the original problem |
| 01:34.45 | clever | Arrowmaster: i wasnt sure, changing key bindings near combat might count as a boty action |
| 01:34.55 | Amarande | at least, ones specifically designed as needing a group? |
| 01:36.10 | Arrowmaster | clever: theres an event fired when entering combat that you are still considered out of combat until directly after it fires |
| 01:36.23 | clever | Arrowmaster: sounds perfect :) |
| 01:36.45 | clever | 1/2/3 are part of my main rotation, without those i'm pretty much crippled |
| 01:37.24 | clever | yeah, now that i'm fixing 'self', the original code works fine |
| 01:37.52 | Arrowmaster | still might be better to use ClearOverrideBindings() anyway since its simpler |
| 01:39.19 | clever | seems i caused an interface action to fail:S |
| 01:39.31 | clever | didnt notice anything broken though |
| 01:40.01 | Arrowmaster | you were probably in combat |
| 01:40.22 | clever | yeah, a troll did try to kill me just then |
| 01:40.40 | clever | any way to get a stack trace so i can just fix it? |
| 01:41.05 | Arrowmaster | use InCombatLockdown() so you dont try to change the bindings while in combat |
| 01:42.07 | clever | if !InCombatLockdown() then? |
| 01:43.47 | Arrowmaster | if not InCombatLockdown() then |
| 01:44.08 | clever | lua has too much english leaking into it :P |
| 01:45.17 | airtonix | nou |
| 01:50.06 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 01:50.31 | Dagmar | onoes! World server is doon! |
| 01:53.17 | ajmitch | has seen surprisingly few server crashes since cataclysm went live |
| 01:53.39 | Fisker | i should be sleeping |
| 01:57.00 | clever | what is the LUA api for tomtom? |
| 01:57.03 | clever | so i can add 20 waypoints at once |
| 02:00.43 | airtonix | http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1512203 |
| 02:00.57 | airtonix | power meters block the signal of EoP |
| 02:01.22 | clever | EoP? |
| 02:01.31 | clever | ah, ethernet over power |
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| 02:02.20 | airtonix | but a typical home wiring setup is going to be a hub :( |
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| 02:09.55 | Fisker | it's cold airtonix |
| 02:11.23 | airtonix | got a lighter? |
| 02:12.18 | Gnarfoz | anyone know an addon that shows a handy arrow that points to the nearest archaeology digsite? (can be a tomtom-plugin) |
| 02:13.01 | Fisker | i wish archaology didn't suck so much |
| 02:13.30 | Dagmar | It's *easy* |
| 02:13.42 | Dagmar | _Much_ easier now that we can fly all over the place. |
| 02:13.45 | Fisker | so is fishing |
| 02:13.47 | Fisker | it still sucks |
| 02:13.50 | ajmitch | it was easier XP on the first night than trying to quest in hyjal |
| 02:14.08 | Fisker | yeah |
| 02:14.19 | Fisker | i think the exp it gives currently is kinda low compared to other professions |
| 02:14.43 | ajmitch | probably, given how quickly I farmed up a few stacks of ore before work this morning |
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| 02:16.11 | Xyphoid | ore and herb spawns seem pretty mad |
| 02:16.26 | Xyphoid | i was parked in deepholm with 7 herb dots on my minimap |
| 02:16.32 | ajmitch | flying around deepholm at 5AM server time seemed to be pretty useful |
| 02:16.41 | ajmitch | I might be able to level blacksmithing after all |
| 02:17.16 | Fisker | oh |
| 02:17.26 | Fisker | looks like xp went up significantly in archaeology |
| 02:18.07 | bluspacecow | how much fisky |
| 02:18.15 | bluspacecow | wisky |
| 02:18.17 | bluspacecow | disky |
| 02:18.33 | Fisker | started at 11k |
| 02:18.40 | Fisker | next step for me was 28k |
| 02:18.46 | Fisker | at 25/75 |
| 02:19.09 | ajmitch | I thought it was based on character level, not archaeology level? |
| 02:19.09 | kd3 | ah the joys of msdnaa |
| 02:19.30 | kd3 | parents' computer is busted, I'm tired of fixing it. they've now got a legit copy of w7pro installed |
| 02:19.44 | Fisker | no they don't |
| 02:20.24 | airtonix | vomits |
| 02:21.50 | clever | airtonix: '128bit key encrypted frequency' |
| 02:22.00 | clever | airtonix: i hate it when they mis-use words like that |
| 02:22.11 | airtonix | why? |
| 02:22.27 | airtonix | http://img.whirltools.com/i/99085107189481046927.jpg |
| 02:23.07 | clever | you cant encrypt a frequency |
| 02:23.28 | airtonix | the frequency contains encrypted information |
| 02:23.39 | Thunder_Child | but thats not what it says |
| 02:23.47 | airtonix | i know, these are windows users |
| 02:24.02 | airtonix | inb4qq |
| 02:24.08 | clever | yeah |
| 02:24.21 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 02:24.50 | airtonix | also the "encryption" seems to be something that requires setup from windows |
| 02:25.13 | airtonix | i had the impression that these EoP devices were limited to layer 1 |
| 02:26.33 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 02:26.42 | bluspacecow | it was 5500 last night |
| 02:26.51 | Fisker | your mom? |
| 02:26.52 | bluspacecow | maybe its higher for the less steps you take |
| 02:27.02 | bluspacecow | clearly your better at it then me |
| 02:27.08 | Fisker | seems to differ from area to area |
| 02:27.13 | Fisker | went back to 11k in darkshore |
| 02:27.14 | bluspacecow | <--- 80 |
| 02:27.15 | airtonix | like your mother |
| 02:29.38 | bluspacecow | what level is a fisker ? |
| 02:29.43 | clever | airtonix: it mentions a button to auth it |
| 02:30.00 | clever | sounds somewhat like bluetooth |
| 02:30.25 | airtonix | without the encryption |
| 02:30.27 | Fisker | i'm a level 84 bluspacecow |
| 02:30.39 | bluspacecow | niiiiiiiiiice |
| 02:30.47 | airtonix | i bet you're not actually blue |
| 02:31.12 | airtonix | hindubeigecow |
| 02:32.45 | bluspacecow | i was at blizzcon |
| 02:32.47 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 02:36.50 | Fisker | I AM BLIZZCON |
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| 02:44.05 | Fisker | get it bluspacecow ? |
| 02:44.14 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 02:44.16 | bluspacecow | <_< |
| 02:44.19 | bluspacecow | not weally |
| 02:44.47 | Fisker | i'm better than you |
| 02:51.05 | clever | that was un-expected |
| 02:51.16 | clever | got my head stuck in a jar while doing archaeology |
| 02:52.38 | clever | the jar spawned right on my exact location, and due to bugs in clipping, i couldnt move or see:P |
| 02:56.10 | Fisker | i hate alliance |
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| 02:57.28 | Yssaril | anyone know of an addon that tells you which quests you missed in a zone (for the new cata zones?) |
| 02:59.21 | clever | Yssaril: everyquest |
| 02:59.32 | Yssaril | doesnt have the new zones |
| 02:59.45 | mascondante | Sapu94: Ping |
| 02:59.48 | clever | mash F5 until an update with new zones appears :P |
| 03:00.46 | clever | Yssaril: there is a way to get a list of every quest youve done |
| 03:00.59 | clever | might be some way to copy that to wowhead manualy, and then get an answer |
| 03:01.14 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 03:01.20 | clever | but neither the addon to do it exists, nor wowhead code to handle it for yu |
| 03:03.18 | mascondante | Anyone bored enough to look at a file and help me make it pass hardware event? |
| 03:03.41 | mascondante | I'm not quite sure how to go about doing it. |
| 03:03.43 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: I'm sure the alliance feels the same way. |
| 03:04.42 | Fisker | probably Thunder_Child |
| 03:04.47 | Fisker | but i have good reasoning |
| 03:05.11 | Fisker | for example i'm just idling over crucible of carnage waiting for alliance to thin out (Alliance overpopulation) but they keep attacking me |
| 03:05.18 | Fisker | i don't even get it |
| 03:09.39 | Fisker | see |
| 03:09.42 | Fisker | i got ganked again |
| 03:09.50 | Fisker | and all i did was hang around the crucible of carnage |
| 03:09.57 | Fisker | taunt the boss and make it evade |
| 03:10.00 | Fisker | then make them wipe |
| 03:10.06 | Fisker | and they keep attacking me |
| 03:10.29 | ajmitch | no provocation there? |
| 03:10.35 | Xyphoid | you know what's cool about hyjal |
| 03:10.39 | Xyphoid | people are questing on cliff edges |
| 03:12.00 | Fisker | maybe they shouldn't provoke me by being alliance ajmitch ? |
| 03:12.13 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5709838/ending-leaked-for-starcraft-iis-next-chapter |
| 03:12.24 | Fisker | old |
| 03:13.19 | Kraps | liar |
| 03:17.25 | Jerub | ding level 2 guild |
| 03:17.46 | Fisker | old |
| 03:17.58 | Jerub | shush, you europeany person |
| 03:18.10 | clever | we are all stuck a 75% of level 1 :P |
| 03:18.20 | Jerub | and i think we're going for guild heroic lich king dungeonmaster tonight |
| 03:19.46 | ajmitch | Jerub: I wonder how our guild was at level 2 yesterday then |
| 03:20.03 | Jerub | ajmitch: there were a bunch of things surrounding caps and xp from achievements. |
| 03:20.10 | ajmitch | either way the extra 5% helped levelling last night |
| 03:20.20 | Jerub | om nom nom nom 5% more experience |
| 03:20.23 | Kraps | OH MY GOD MY PRIEST'S NEW STAFF HAS A SQUID ON TOP |
| 03:20.30 | Jerub | Kraps: win! |
| 03:20.31 | ajmitch | welcome to kara? |
| 03:20.32 | Kraps | GET IT OFF |
| 03:21.27 | Kraps | i got it yesterday, but just noticed on the char select screen |
| 03:21.40 | mascondante | Anyone know of an addon that's very small and uses a hardware event somewhere? I'm trying to base one off Auctioneer's CorePost.lua but there's so much going on I can't break it down to figure it out. |
| 03:21.52 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/item=59778 |
| 03:22.24 | ajmitch | Kraps: so it is the same model as the staff from kara, good to see it back |
| 03:22.34 | Kraps | i see that |
| 03:22.59 | Kraps | but its an early quest staff |
| 03:23.33 | KarlKFI | what profs should i get on my goblin mage? |
| 03:24.00 | Kraps | Jamash: twitter/facebook is that way ----> |
| 03:25.03 | Kraps | the links to wowhead/pedia from the official site are so sex |
| 03:28.40 | bluspacecow | any archeology addons out yet ? |
| 03:30.14 | clever | bluspacecow: i'm in the middle of writing one |
| 03:30.20 | bluspacecow | ;) |
| 03:30.25 | bluspacecow | what it do ? |
| 03:30.51 | Jamash | Kraps: Sorry, it was on-topic for #wowhead |
| 03:30.58 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 03:30.59 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 03:31.02 | Jamash | and I can't change my nick in one channel only |
| 03:31.05 | clever | bluspacecow: after you survey, you tell the addon what color the marker is |
| 03:31.08 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 03:31.12 | clever | bluspacecow: it should then aid in finding the spot |
| 03:31.38 | Jerub | Fisker: sick or http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/12/take-two-potions-daily/ ? |
| 03:35.27 | clever | oooo finaly, a dig site in the blasted lands |
| 03:35.31 | clever | getting up in levels now |
| 03:39.34 | mascondante | How about this... is there a way to pause a script? I think I can work it out if I can get it to pause. |
| 03:40.07 | mascondante | like make the popup, halt the coroutine, on click it does it's thing and resumes |
| 03:41.47 | mascondante | This script I'm trying to resurrect is less than 300 lines. I'm pretty sure I can just stick in an onclick in the right spot along with a pause of some sort and get it working that way. |
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| 03:54.43 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 03:54.48 | Fisker | wowpedia/wowhead links suck |
| 03:55.03 | Kraps | Fisker: your mom |
| 03:55.16 | Fisker | your dad |
| 03:56.02 | Kraps | your sister |
| 03:56.17 | Fisker | your cousin |
| 03:57.48 | Kraps | your grandmother |
| 03:59.12 | Sixen | nou |
| 03:59.21 | ScytheBlade1 | your FACE |
| 03:59.53 | Fisker | i'm sick Sixen |
| 03:59.54 | Fisker | help me |
| 04:00.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: no one can help you |
| 04:00.37 | Fisker | i'll probably be dead soon ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:01.44 | ScytheBlade1 | we'll be devoid of our most-loved troll then |
| 04:02.05 | Sixen | =o |
| 04:02.16 | Sixen | also, hai sbo |
| 04:02.26 | ScytheBlade1 | hai |
| 04:07.11 | Amarande | are digsites specific to each character, or do you compete for them like other nodes? |
| 04:07.47 | Kraps | specific, last i heard |
| 04:08.07 | ajmitch | it makes for a nice casual way to level (at least on a pve server) |
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| 04:09.01 | Fisker | blows up Kraps |
| 04:09.04 | Amarande | and we 80+'s have to go all the way back to the 1-10 zones to get started I'm supposing. |
| 04:09.14 | Kraps | yes |
| 04:09.44 | ajmitch | 1-60 zones, so you end up flying all over the continent |
| 04:11.22 | Kraps | fatal wow error :( |
| 04:11.40 | Amarande | do you need both Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms to reach 300? |
| 04:11.47 | Fisker | i came |
| 04:11.52 | Fisker | just got 2 moar games on steam |
| 04:13.09 | Amarande | and do digs show up on the minimap or the zone map first? |
| 04:13.53 | clever | Amarande: i'm just bearly starting to get into the blasted lands, been doing swamp of sorrows and stranglethorn for ages now |
| 04:14.02 | clever | zone and continent maps |
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| 04:15.24 | clever | when using table.sort, does it sort by value or key? |
| 04:15.27 | Amarande | wtf EPL for my first dig |
| 04:15.38 | Amarande | I guess it doesn't care at all about area level, it seems to be random by continent |
| 04:15.42 | clever | EPL and WPL come up alot too |
| 04:16.00 | clever | but once i got around level 100, it was all grey items i was collecting |
| 04:16.03 | Amarande | You never get a digsite you can't do, do you? |
| 04:16.19 | clever | i believe its always one your skill can do |
| 04:16.32 | clever | its just a question of will the local stuff kill you a dozen times on the way |
| 04:16.53 | Amarande | At 82? I think if I get killed by the local stuff I probably should uninstall the game |
| 04:17.33 | clever | for the low level stuff, thats pretty much imposible |
| 04:17.44 | clever | but i expect the high level arch to lead you to hyjal and places |
| 04:18.00 | Amarande | oh wait, that's hinterlands. why did I think the altar of zul was in EPL? |
| 04:18.13 | clever | yeah i got hinterlands alot too |
| 04:18.41 | clever | i think ive hit my first non-grey garbage |
| 04:18.45 | clever | it looks like a pet |
| 04:19.45 | clever | crud, 12:20 am, parental controls |
| 04:21.21 | clever | ive been playing since sunrise, probly best that i get off |
| 04:22.26 | Thunder_Child | thinks dirty thoughts |
| 04:22.45 | clever | i was thinking the same thing after i hit enter :P |
| 04:22.49 | Amarande | Ok ... I get blinking green beacons when I survey here |
| 04:23.01 | Amarande | but how do I actually get fragments? the Archaelogy ability just pops up the info windows |
| 04:23.06 | Jerub | clever: what's your arch at when you got your first non-grey? |
| 04:23.08 | Thunder_Child | might help if you thought about it before you hit enter :p |
| 04:23.22 | Jerub | Amarande: go in the direction the telescope points. |
| 04:23.33 | Jerub | green means about a drakelength |
| 04:23.37 | clever | Jerub: 120 or 130 i think |
| 04:23.43 | Jerub | yellow means 4-5 drakelengths |
| 04:23.44 | clever | though it might be semi-random |
| 04:23.47 | Jerub | red means fly a bit. |
| 04:24.00 | Jerub | red is really innacurate, it's very rough. |
| 04:24.07 | Jerub | green is precise direction |
| 04:24.11 | clever | ive found the arrow is never acurate |
| 04:24.11 | Jerub | then you survey again |
| 04:24.18 | clever | at times its given me 3 90 degree turns in a row |
| 04:24.25 | clever | zig-zaging back and forth |
| 04:24.32 | Amarande | ah, there we go, it shows up eventually. |
| 04:24.43 | Amarande | wow, it gives a ton of xp too |
| 04:24.46 | Amarande | 9532 XP for my first find |
| 04:24.56 | Jerub | Amarande: yeah, at 81 it was giving me 6.9k i think |
| 04:25.07 | clever | its also effected by rest exp |
| 04:25.20 | Jerub | it's affected by rested xp |
| 04:25.33 | clever | effected/affected, same thing:P |
| 04:25.44 | Jerub | so if you were on normal xp, went to the city to train and ah, then that was your first node, it would pbably have put you back on normal after a tiny bit of rested. |
| 04:26.10 | clever | yeah |
| 04:26.18 | clever | one node is usualy enough to eat 5 seconds of rest |
| 04:26.54 | Jerub | i burned 8 hours of rested in an hour of flying around doing it this morning on my main |
| 04:27.01 | Jerub | Amarande: DO NOT SOLVE ANY PROJECTS. |
| 04:27.05 | Jerub | Amarande: wait till you hit 95. |
| 04:27.43 | Jerub | Amarande: surveying grants skill points up to 95. after that you only get skill points 5 at a time by solving things. |
| 04:28.39 | clever | i was always solving as soon as i had enough |
| 04:28.45 | clever | solving also grants exp |
| 04:28.48 | Jerub | i'm only doing arch on my toosn that have 280% flying. not worth doing it on slow flying. :P |
| 04:28.57 | Jerub | clever: yeah, i made that mistake too |
| 04:29.00 | clever | once surveying was giving greys, solving still gave exp |
| 04:29.02 | Jerub | until 70odd |
| 04:29.27 | clever | i think that surveying after 95 should still give points, if you find high level nodes |
| 04:29.35 | clever | its just giving me all kinds of crap ones right now:P |
| 04:30.00 | Jerub | clever: um, i think it's just any node. |
| 04:30.05 | Jerub | there's no such thing as a high level node is there? |
| 04:30.08 | Jerub | they're all the same |
| 04:30.13 | Jerub | it's high level projects |
| 04:30.32 | clever | i had the feeling that a nodes level was linked to the level of mobs in the area |
| 04:30.40 | Jerub | nope, not afaik |
| 04:31.02 | Fisker | brrsalot |
| 04:31.35 | Jerub | our GM is feeling really down and crap about cata because she's currently out of a job and can't afford to buy it |
| 04:32.00 | clever | my main computer for WOW crashed |
| 04:32.03 | clever | the day before release |
| 04:32.11 | mikma | wobin: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/12/blown_away_laboratory_air_cann.php |
| 04:33.14 | Jerub | # It is no longer possible for an ill-mannered person of the opposing faction to one-shot a flight trainer in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, which in turn made the 500 players standing on top of the flight trainer with their mammoths really sad. |
| 04:34.00 | clever | Jerub: i found a neat trick to solve that |
| 04:34.09 | clever | under key bindings, bind 'interact with target' |
| 04:34.23 | clever | then find the guys name from the minimap tracking and /target him |
| 04:34.26 | clever | then use the keybinding |
| 04:34.27 | Jerub | clever: one-shot meaning, 'kill' |
| 04:34.33 | clever | yeah, i mean the 2nd problem |
| 04:34.37 | clever | mammoths on the trainer |
| 04:34.42 | Jerub | oh right |
| 04:34.46 | clever | with the method i just explained, you can open any NPC |
| 04:35.05 | clever | vendors, quests, flight master, gossip, probly guards too |
| 04:35.12 | Jerub | yeah, i've got that bound |
| 04:35.22 | Jerub | it was mentioned in mmo-champ front page when the realms came live. |
| 04:35.29 | clever | also helps on a crippled computer, i cant target/rightclick NPC's half the time because its not done loading |
| 04:35.36 | Jerub | # There is no longer a School of Fish in Elwynn Forest that like to think of themselves as in "testing," nor do they yield Peacebloom when fished. This School of Fish is no longer a part of the counterculture and will no longer give you flowers when fished. |
| 04:35.44 | clever | ive sat at the dal flight master for 5mins countless times |
| 04:36.16 | clever | lol, flowers from fish |
| 04:36.25 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4cgLL8JaVI |
| 04:36.43 | clever | ive also noticed they changed the texture loading massively |
| 04:36.59 | Amarande | so basically, it's more or less impossible to keep up archaeology as you level, too, because you'll regularly not be able to live in the zones you need to use? |
| 04:37.01 | clever | it pre-loads everything with horid looking textures, green blobs for trees :P |
| 04:37.13 | clever | then when the hdd catches up, things begin to look better |
| 04:37.40 | Amarande | clever: hey, could be worse |
| 04:37.49 | Amarande | in Guild Wars, when a texture wasn't available it put a giant white box in its place |
| 04:37.51 | clever | Amarande: it seems to be sending me all over the map, so you cant exactly quest and archaeology in the same zone |
| 04:38.07 | clever | most of the time, wow just leaves the model completely invisible |
| 04:38.13 | clever | which is fun at times |
| 04:38.26 | clever | i could see thru the doors in ironforge and down into old iron forge |
| 04:38.44 | clever | i could even see half the tunnel from the flight point, because the ground under foot wasnt loaded yet |
| 04:38.55 | Jerub | Amarande: that's not right |
| 04:39.06 | Jerub | Amarande: arch nodes only pop in zones you can survive in |
| 04:39.37 | clever | Jerub: ive yet to get any in outlands or northrend, and i can survive there easily |
| 04:39.55 | Jerub | clever: they weren't broken in the cataclysm |
| 04:40.10 | clever | so they will never have arch nodes? |
| 04:40.41 | clever | id think with higher level skill in ach, you could find nodes that wherent broken open |
| 04:40.43 | Jerub | oh right. sorry |
| 04:40.48 | Jerub | yes. they can appear on all 4 continents |
| 04:40.51 | Jerub | you just have to look at the map for them |
| 04:41.23 | Jerub | you have to have arch 300 to do OL, 375 for NR |
| 04:41.28 | Fisker | i'm so tired Jerub |
| 04:41.33 | clever | ah |
| 04:41.36 | Jerub | Fisker: i'm tired of you |
| 04:41.44 | Fisker | really? |
| 04:42.00 | clever | i'm off to get some supper now, later |
| 04:45.15 | Fisker | Blizzard should just have renamed all the ring of blood-questlines to Ring of Blood 1,2,3,etc |
| 04:45.38 | Fisker | wow |
| 04:45.43 | Fisker | my memory usage is bitchin' |
| 04:45.48 | Fisker | only 31,6millibits |
| 04:46.01 | Kraps | no one cares Fisker |
| 04:46.03 | Amarande | sweet. two digsites right on top of each other. |
| 04:46.11 | Fisker | except you Kraps |
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| 04:47.07 | Kraps | on the contrary fisker |
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| 04:52.18 | Primer | Anyone here working with Astrolabe? I'm finally getting around to making my addon work again, and I'm a bit confused about a few things |
| 05:02.36 | Gnarfoz | anyone know an addon that shows a handy arrow that points to the nearest archaeology digsite? (can be a tomtom-plugin) |
| 05:13.03 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: hm. that's an interesting idea. i'd hesitate to do it because i route around nodes intelligently. |
| 05:13.09 | Jerub | teleport: moonglade and my herath |
| 05:13.30 | Gnarfoz | nearest is pretty intelligent, is it not? ^^ |
| 05:13.48 | Gnarfoz | (I wouldn't know, haven't leveld archaeology at all, yet, it's for someone else) |
| 05:14.46 | Amarande | Gnarfoz: would you believe that while doing a nearby archaeology dig I managed to snag the Gurubashi Arena Master achievement without any opposition at all? |
| 05:15.01 | Gnarfoz | most of all, I wouldn't care |
| 05:15.02 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 05:17.24 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: it's neat when you do from north to south and only backtrack a little. |
| 05:17.39 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: it often ends up that the far away points have popped adjacent |
| 05:17.53 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 05:17.55 | Fisker | i'm sick |
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| 05:24.30 | Amarande | hmm, is it best to save all your fragments till you don't get any more skill ups from gathering them? |
| 05:24.53 | Fisker | save them how? |
| 05:25.22 | Jerub | Amarande: yes. |
| 05:25.25 | Amarande | Fisker: as in wait to solve artifacts until you can no longer gain skill ups except from solving artifacts, not from surveying. |
| 05:25.38 | Jerub | Amarande: yes. i mentioned that ealrier. wait until 95 before you hit the solve button |
| 05:25.46 | Fisker | :( |
| 05:25.50 | Fisker | could've told me Jerub |
| 05:25.50 | Fisker | jerk |
| 05:26.06 | Amarande | I also sometimes wonder if any poor sods end up with their artifact piece being on the Gurubashi Arena floor. :) |
| 05:26.11 | Jerub | 14:27 < Jerub> Amarande: DO NOT SOLVE ANY PROJECTS. |
| 05:26.11 | Jerub | 14:27 < Jerub> Amarande: wait till you hit 95. |
| 05:26.11 | Jerub | 14:27 < Jerub> Amarande: surveying grants skill points up to 95. after that you only get skill points 5 at a time by solving things. |
| 05:26.38 | Amarande | There is a dig site that can appear in Cape that does include that area, though none of my pieces were on the floor. |
| 05:26.52 | Amarande | And apparently no one is doing Gurubashi Arena anymore, since no one was around to kill me when I grabbed the trinket. |
| 05:26.54 | Jerub | i haven't seen any pieces underwater yet |
| 05:27.01 | Jerub | but lots on the shore |
| 05:27.55 | Jerub | so i'm guessing they're not actually random, they're like the spawn points of herbs |
| 05:28.35 | Fisker | i think so too |
| 05:28.45 | Fisker | i was doing it in silithus |
| 05:28.51 | Fisker | and i saw someone else doing it |
| 05:29.01 | Fisker | We both discovered the same 3 places |
| 05:29.44 | Jerub | tbh, a good addon would be one that shows you the harvest points that other people have discovered |
| 05:29.51 | Amarande | do you stop getting XP from gathering too, or just skill ups? |
| 05:29.58 | Jerub | Amarande: jsut skillups |
| 05:30.09 | Jerub | Amarande: gathering yields just under 7k at 80 |
| 05:30.15 | Amarande | and I'm guessing that from your talk about underwater that there are probably none in vashj'ir? |
| 05:30.35 | Jerub | Amarande: unknown. you need to have arch at 450 to get arch spawns in cata zones |
| 05:31.38 | Fisker | it's not like "We can't put it under water" |
| 05:31.53 | Fisker | It's just going to be confusing in smaller lakes and shit you find around the digsites |
| 05:32.11 | Fisker | since all of vashj'ir is covered in water the only problem there would be the 3 dimensional movement |
| 05:32.48 | Kraps | 14:27 < Jerub> Amarande: surveying grants skill points up to 95. after that you only get skill points 5 at a time by solving things. |
| 05:32.52 | Kraps | really? |
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| 05:35.44 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/141783/free-character-moves-available |
| 05:37.14 | Fisker | old Kraps |
| 05:37.31 | Ackis | is there a cookie crumb quest to port you to uldum? |
| 05:37.49 | Fisker | no |
| 05:38.00 | Amarande | they HAVE to put a dig site near Akasha if they haven't already. |
| 05:38.03 | Fisker | there's a breadcrumb to get off your fat lazy ass and go down to tanaris |
| 05:38.14 | Amarande | It's just too fun a reference to pass up, to put a dig site in an area crawling with snakes |
| 05:39.44 | Fisker | stop being a busy day battle.net |
| 05:40.23 | bleeter | is it just me or is 4chan out? |
| 05:40.31 | bleeter | :P |
| 05:41.44 | Fisker | anyone supporting wikileaks must be stopped |
| 05:43.06 | bleeter | no u |
| 05:43.10 | Fisker | no u |
| 05:45.44 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1406250761?page=2#34 |
| 05:48.46 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 05:48.51 | Fisker | my tired level is over 9000 |
| 05:49.01 | Kraps | i agree |
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| 05:54.57 | olafski | jerub: I got 3 points for solving things until I got to outland |
| 05:57.27 | olafski | also, I got ~5500xp at 80 for digging, ~7500 at 81, ~11k at 83 and ~14.5k at 84 |
| 06:00.33 | Amarande | and is it true that it's not 6 million for 84-85 like people said during beta, but instead 9.1M? |
| 06:01.49 | Primer | I don't get this. I'm looking at some sample code that looks like this: local map, floor = GetCurrentMapAreaID() |
| 06:02.00 | Primer | yet, the docs say that only returns one value |
| 06:02.37 | Jerub | olafski: how many points do you get for solving things in OL? 4? |
| 06:02.46 | Jerub | olafski: i meant skill points, not arch fragments. |
| 06:02.55 | Jerub | there's 3 things. xp, skill points and fragments. |
| 06:03.12 | Jerub | you get skill points until your skill reaches 95 for finding fragments. |
| 06:03.20 | Jerub | then you get 5 skill points per artefact you solve |
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| 06:04.31 | olafski | amarande: yes |
| 06:04.39 | olafski | jerub: 5 I think |
| 06:05.03 | olafski | jerub: and I'm saying I got 3 skill points per artefact until outland :P |
| 06:05.19 | olafski | went back to EK now though, faster gathering there and I want the troll sword |
| 06:05.40 | Jerub | olafski: i'm currently getting 5 skill points per artefact |
| 06:09.10 | Torhal | Primer: Docs become outdated |
| 06:09.28 | Primer | I run it, and it only returns one value |
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| 06:11.35 | Wobin | mikma: crazy swedes =P |
| 06:14.01 | olafski | jerub: hm. maybe it's random? I _think_ I got 5 and 7 in outland |
| 06:14.02 | olafski | not sure |
| 06:14.12 | olafski | only got one rare so far, and one more in the pipeline |
| 06:14.19 | olafski | I'm not turning in any more troll artifacts until I reach max skill |
| 06:14.21 | Kraps | i have salted peanuts |
| 06:14.31 | olafski | anywho, work time, more archaeology in 10 hours :) |
| 06:14.33 | olafski | cya! |
| 06:16.17 | Jerub | olafski: it's definately a stable number on the 1-150 range |
| 06:16.25 | Jerub | start with 1 fragment, then it goes up to 2, |
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| 06:20.35 | Kraps | there ARE digsites in OL/NR http://www.wowpedia.org/Archaeology_locations |
| 06:21.01 | Jerub | Kraps: yes, you need to be 300 to see them in OL, 375 for NR, 450 for cata |
| 06:21.03 | Jerub | i mentioned that earlier |
| 06:33.50 | Kraps | is currently listening to Fuel - Bad Day |
| 06:34.34 | Jerub | is currently listning to Air - Sexy Boy |
| 06:34.42 | Jerub | but can't spell as well as kraps |
| 06:35.19 | Kraps | i have a mod :p |
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| 06:44.20 | PProvost | Anyone know how to get out of Vortex Pinnacle? |
| 06:45.07 | Nobgul | Yer walk backwards or tele out of dungeon |
| 06:45.10 | Nobgul | Or leave grp |
| 06:45.26 | PProvost | We didn't use dungeon finder |
| 06:45.30 | PProvost | We came in the front door |
| 06:46.16 | Nobgul | YEr leave grp |
| 06:46.23 | Nobgul | It will put you outside. |
| 06:46.31 | Nobgul | The last person in grp will have to be summoned out |
| 06:47.01 | PProvost | Thats fubar |
| 06:47.15 | Nobgul | Yerp |
| 06:47.42 | Fisker | no |
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| 07:00.41 | Kraps | Professor Ironpants |
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| 07:05.49 | Dagmar | That's Doctor Professor Ironpants, to the likes of you. |
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| 07:11.44 | Jerub | http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y282/Weltenreiter/ettuprinter.jpg |
| 07:12.58 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/12/08/funny-pictures-well-heres-your-problem/ |
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| 07:15.27 | mikma | jnwhiteh: roger on the times. were the flights expensive? |
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| 07:27.03 | tem | oh jesus |
| 07:27.08 | airtonix | yes my son? |
| 07:27.11 | tem | this week's state of the game is fucking awesome |
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| 07:29.14 | Kraps | http://assets.sbnation.com/imported_assets/81090/jesus.jpg |
| 07:39.43 | airtonix | http://www.myopenrouter.com/article/13378/Features-and-Specifications-NETGEAR-WNR3500L-Open-Source-Wireless-N-Gigabit-Router/ |
| 07:43.15 | Jerub | airtonix: the thing of th emoment is that you want abgn dual radios |
| 07:43.25 | Jerub | airtonix: meaning simultaneous 2.4 and 5ghz |
| 07:44.00 | airtonix | if i can't add my own logic/scripts/applications to the thing it's useless to me |
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| 07:45.27 | Jerub | airtonix: you can run openwrt on the WET610N |
| 07:45.35 | Jerub | i'm let to believe anyway. |
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| 07:46.34 | airtonix | if i could find a wifi device that allows for master mode under linux i'd just make my own with an mitx atom based setup |
| 07:47.16 | cbreak_work | can't you just put two routers on the air? |
| 07:47.38 | cbreak_work | antennas are tuned for certain frequencies |
| 07:47.44 | cbreak_work | they aren't that optimal for others |
| 07:48.13 | airtonix | i don't follow |
| 07:48.18 | airtonix | elaborate |
| 07:48.47 | Jerub | my boss is grinning at the moment because we're talking about working more closely with xirrus soon, and they decided to send us a XN8, which is an 8 radio, 36 antenna access point |
| 07:49.48 | cbreak_work | for 2.4ghz and 5ghz, I'd use two different devices with different antennas. |
| 07:50.52 | Jerub | cbreak_work: that's interesting. twice the number of cpus, power providers, etc, for what gain? you can throw 2 antennas on a device and transmit in two totally different bands trivially without problems. |
| 07:51.54 | cbreak_work | you'd need four antennas though |
| 07:52.00 | cbreak_work | well, not really need |
| 07:52.09 | cbreak_work | but... at least my router has one for sending, one for receiving |
| 07:52.10 | Jerub | sure. easy done |
| 07:52.27 | Jerub | are you sure? i don't think that's actually what they do. |
| 07:53.12 | cbreak_work | not sure. |
| 07:53.20 | cbreak_work | but it's what I read that they do |
| 07:55.25 | Jerub | me neither |
| 07:56.29 | cbreak_work | well, it is clear that one antenna can't send and receive at the same time |
| 07:58.29 | Jerub | discover something new every day. i thought you could |
| 07:58.31 | Jerub | must be a frequency thing |
| 07:58.40 | cbreak_work | it's a matter of power |
| 07:59.00 | cbreak_work | antennas work by sensing differences in voltage |
| 07:59.09 | cbreak_work | but if you use it for sending, you produce those yourself |
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| 07:59.42 | Jerub | makes perfect sense |
| 08:00.08 | cbreak_work | the second antenna is for listening if what you sent has been sent successfully |
| 08:00.14 | cbreak_work | or if someone else was sending at the same time |
| 08:00.15 | cbreak_work | I think |
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| 08:11.47 | cbreak_work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDvPIhCd8N4, interesting. |
| 08:12.12 | Primer | I don't think I've ever done more "trial and error" programming than working on this addon |
| 08:12.54 | cbreak_work | that's the least advanced method of programming |
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| 08:28.17 | Fisker | Fisker |
| 08:28.18 | Fisker | fuck yeah |
| 08:31.24 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:31.40 | Bluspacecow | ~trout Fisker |
| 08:31.41 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout! |
| 08:32.04 | Bluspacecow | why so serious ? |
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| 08:37.36 | airtonix | Fisker, The Austrian Institute for Heat Transmission and Fan Technology |
| 08:41.47 | Bluspacecow | aihtft |
| 08:42.07 | airtonix | gazuntite |
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| 08:46.18 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 08:46.22 | Shirik | tell me if this is a dick move |
| 08:46.32 | airtonix | it is |
| 08:46.40 | Shirik | Amazon guaranteed me release-day shipping, so I ordered it from them |
| 08:46.49 | Shirik | but they screwed up, and I knew they screwed up, so they shipped it late |
| 08:46.58 | Shirik | But I knew they screwed up before they shipped it |
| 08:47.14 | airtonix | how did you know |
| 08:47.18 | Shirik | Instead of cancelling the order, I let them eat the overnight shipping costs and bought it from best buy |
| 08:47.22 | airtonix | and what did they screw up |
| 08:47.24 | Shirik | Because it had a warning |
| 08:47.26 | Shirik | they just shipped it late |
| 08:47.32 | Shirik | and it told me the delivery date would be off |
| 08:47.38 | Shirik | so now I'm returning it to Amazon, at their shipping expense |
| 08:47.46 | Shirik | for a full refund |
| 08:48.25 | airtonix | i find that satisfying |
| 08:50.52 | airtonix | 66 celsius too high for atom cpu? |
| 08:51.19 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:54.30 | Kalroth | According to the Intel specification, the Atom 230 processor is capable of handling a core temperature of up to 99 °C. |
| 08:55.23 | airtonix | so don't really need cpu fan if it has a wooping great heatsink |
| 08:55.34 | zenzio | (disclaimer: personal belief, may be wrong) I think you're generally okay below 80, though 50-60ish sounds normal to me |
| 08:55.43 | Kalroth | airtonix: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/Intel-Atom-Efficient,1981-9.html |
| 08:56.04 | airtonix | i think i can cook eggs on the heatsink |
| 08:56.29 | zenzio | wouldn't recommend it though; would probably run everywhere and be hard to clean up |
| 08:56.37 | airtonix | indeed |
| 08:58.13 | airtonix | i bought some noctua fans |
| 08:58.35 | zenzio | what are those? |
| 08:59.06 | Xyphoid | 2 days to get your cata darkmoon card done, lulz |
| 08:59.10 | airtonix | supposed to be high-cfm/dbl fans |
| 08:59.31 | zenzio | dbl? |
| 09:00.00 | airtonix | http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=9&lng=en |
| 09:00.09 | zenzio | hope that's not decibel... I once had a high-decibel fan, it was painful |
| 09:00.45 | airtonix | Airflow 53 m³/h for : Acoustical Noise 17 dB(A) |
| 09:01.15 | airtonix | most fans only move about 23m³/h for that noise level |
| 09:01.25 | airtonix | and its a 80mm |
| 09:02.02 | airtonix | but 25mm thick |
| 09:02.14 | airtonix | i only have 15mm to play with in the m350 case |
| 09:03.10 | zenzio | http://ixbtlabs.com/articles/globalwin/ - the noise from the FOP-38 was monstrous |
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| 09:09.39 | airtonix | zenzio, oh . that 5th comment |
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| 09:15.14 | airtonix | lol |
| 09:15.16 | airtonix | 46.5 dB noise level |
| 09:18.17 | zenzio | indeed |
| 09:18.59 | zenzio | I always wondered if going with a 60x60mm fan on that one was a good idea, rather than an 80x80mm... I suppose maybe the airflow isn't as good on 80x80 |
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| 09:25.30 | nevcairiel | smaller fans = more noise, so no, its never a good idea =p |
| 09:25.40 | Primer | I'm not entirely sure how I'm suppoed to use the Astrolabe beta in my code |
| 09:25.45 | Primer | Anyone lend a hand? |
| 09:26.03 | Primer | local Astrolabe = DongleStub("Astrolabe-0.4") <-- guessing that's not it |
| 09:26.32 | Arrowmaster | the version changed |
| 09:26.39 | Primer | ok, I see, 1.0 |
| 09:26.56 | Primer | man, I've been struggling all night, and it seems that was the issue all along |
| 09:27.40 | nevcairiel | he should've switched to libstub when he switched the major anyway |
| 09:28.44 | Primer | wow, now everything works! :) |
| 09:28.49 | Primer | man, I'm so tired... |
| 09:28.56 | Primer | I should have seen this much much earlier |
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| 09:31.12 | airtonix | ok enough playing around |
| 09:31.20 | airtonix | time to watch more stargate |
| 09:31.28 | airtonix | one season a day |
| 09:31.44 | nevcairiel | you have time to watch stargate when there is mobs to be killed? |
| 09:31.53 | airtonix | why yes |
| 09:31.56 | airtonix | i believe i do |
| 09:32.37 | airtonix | i feel sorry for you poor sods |
| 09:32.49 | airtonix | being forced to play wow to pay for food |
| 09:33.17 | nevcairiel | could be worse, we could be forced to play hello kitty online |
| 09:33.32 | airtonix | myself, i managed to escape a year ago during a prison break |
| 09:33.49 | airtonix | five of us, p90s sequestered from the guards |
| 09:33.57 | airtonix | a hail of bullets and lube |
| 09:34.04 | airtonix | haha fun times |
| 09:34.06 | airtonix | :( |
| 09:34.07 | nevcairiel | lube? |
| 09:34.18 | airtonix | yes |
| 09:34.34 | airtonix | jimmy didn't get a gun so he had to use his imagination and lube |
| 09:34.46 | airtonix | you the saying |
| 09:34.51 | airtonix | love conquers all |
| 09:36.06 | Primer | I need more ram...4g just not enough to run wow, firefox, and eclipse |
| 09:36.29 | airtonix | use chrome instead |
| 09:37.18 | Primer | I do occasionally |
| 09:37.19 | airtonix | you might want to make sure your ram and fsb are fast |
| 09:37.25 | Primer | they're not |
| 09:37.27 | Primer | they're old |
| 09:37.35 | Primer | 4+ year old box |
| 09:37.42 | Primer | and wow just hung on /rl |
| 09:37.45 | Primer | sigh |
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| 09:39.49 | Primer | ISP being stupid again, sending me unusable DNS servers |
| 09:40.16 | Kalroth | 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 |
| 09:40.19 | Kalroth | go! |
| 09:40.35 | airtonix | it sent you those ? |
| 09:40.39 | Primer | I have that already |
| 09:40.49 | Primer | it's just that I don't have it automated |
| 09:41.02 | Primer | the NAT box itself is the one that gets DHCP from the ISP |
| 09:41.09 | Primer | that's the one that gets hosed |
| 09:41.46 | airtonix | ? |
| 09:44.14 | Primer | now wow's doing the same thing that it was doing on my laptop earlier. Progress bar gets about 1/10th of the way down, and hangs |
| 09:45.01 | Shirik | Ok I get the whole idea of using descriptive file names |
| 09:45.03 | Shirik | but seriously.... |
| 09:45.04 | Shirik | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Navy_030813-F-5435R-011_The_Joint_Unmanned_Air_Vehicle_(JUAV)_Experiment_Program_consisting_of_British_and_Israeli_contractors_work_together_controlling_the_UAV_which_can_be_used_in_various_aspects_of_the_mission_during_Dese.jpg |
| 09:46.00 | airtonix | umad? |
| 09:46.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:48.52 | Bluspacecow | agreed airtonix |
| 09:49.00 | Bluspacecow | they should just rename it umad.jpg |
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| 09:49.16 | Bluspacecow | altough |
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| 09:49.30 | Bluspacecow | a plane with a weird undercarriage would work equally well. |
| 09:49.44 | Primer | dammit, just as I'm making progress, now wow won't start |
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| 09:52.25 | DJJeff | anyone else feeling any lag logging in to the realm list? |
| 09:52.44 | Bluspacecow | not sure how you would feel lag like that |
| 09:52.46 | Bluspacecow | is it itchy ? |
| 09:52.55 | Bluspacecow | or does it feel more like rough silk ? |
| 09:53.05 | Bluspacecow | Eu or US / |
| 09:53.27 | airtonix | lag feels like honey |
| 09:53.34 | DJJeff | US |
| 09:54.06 | Primer | DJJeff: I can login, but I can't get onto any of my toons |
| 09:54.12 | DJJeff | stuck at "Logging into game server" |
| 09:54.32 | DJJeff | realm restarts are not untill 5AM (PST) |
| 09:54.39 | Primer | I can see the list, but once I pick a toon, the progress bar does one or two ticks, then hangs |
| 09:54.53 | Bluspacecow | even then that would not effect getting to the realm list server. |
| 09:55.08 | Primer | affect |
| 09:55.18 | Bluspacecow | restarts are generally only 5 mins anyways |
| 09:55.19 | Bluspacecow | ty primer |
| 09:55.24 | Primer | np |
| 09:55.38 | Bluspacecow | ipconfig /flushdns ? |
| 09:56.14 | Primer | done long ago |
| 09:56.16 | DJJeff | alt tabbed into wow screen started to flash crazy X_X |
| 09:56.18 | DJJeff | :( |
| 09:56.42 | DJJeff | clicked cancel it went back to normal |
| 09:56.51 | Bluspacecow | no problems here |
| 09:58.01 | Bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1305721285 |
| 09:58.10 | Primer | packets are going out, but none are coming back |
| 09:58.23 | DJJeff | Blizzard Downloader.exe4596TCP192.168.1.115372465.36.9.2755247ESTABLISHED |
| 09:59.35 | Bluspacecow | primer do you still have a connection to your realm server ? |
| 09:59.44 | Napoleone | vashj'ir is a badly made zone |
| 10:00.02 | DJJeff | Wow.exe 3308 TCP 192.168.1.115 55083 24.244.17.105 80 ESTABLISHED |
| 10:00.04 | Primer | Bluspacecow: it looks like it's trying to connect |
| 10:00.15 | Primer | but no packets come back |
| 10:00.30 | Bluspacecow | sounds like the connections lost but the client doesn't know about it |
| 10:00.51 | DJJeff | working now :) |
| 10:01.14 | Bluspacecow | try wiping your cache folder then disabling all addons except for an addon loader , login and after logging in enabling your addons with the addon loader addon |
| 10:01.18 | Bluspacecow | eg ACP or LoadIT |
| 10:01.59 | Primer | cache has a lot of crap in it... |
| 10:02.03 | DJJeff | realms are working now |
| 10:02.18 | Bluspacecow | DJ primer has a differetnt issue then yours :D |
| 10:03.13 | mitch0 | my issue is login queues :( haven't seen those in a while... |
| 10:03.15 | Primer | I've run the launcher too...reports it's ready |
| 10:04.17 | airtonix | get lube |
| 10:04.18 | Bluspacecow | yeah i've gotten that a few times myself |
| 10:04.20 | airtonix | im ready too |
| 10:04.26 | Primer | This happened earlier today on my laptop |
| 10:04.28 | Bluspacecow | its where the connection to the server is lost |
| 10:04.35 | Bluspacecow | but the client doesn't know about it |
| 10:04.41 | Bluspacecow | confirmed it with nets stat |
| 10:05.03 | Bluspacecow | what seems to work is load only LoadIt or ACP and use that to load the rest of your UI via a reloadui command |
| 10:05.21 | airtonix | stats Bluspacecows net |
| 10:05.28 | airtonix | aha |
| 10:05.35 | Primer | I've been reloading ui all night |
| 10:05.37 | Primer | developing |
| 10:05.38 | airtonix | you have too many tubes in your cats |
| 10:05.46 | Bluspacecow | O_O |
| 10:05.50 | Bluspacecow | oh noes airtonix |
| 10:05.55 | Bluspacecow | how i fix it ? |
| 10:06.02 | airtonix | pull life support |
| 10:06.09 | airtonix | begin cpr |
| 10:06.13 | Bluspacecow | :( |
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| 10:06.19 | Bluspacecow | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/12/08/funny-pictures-well-heres-your-problem/ |
| 10:06.24 | Bluspacecow | ^^ my problem apparently |
| 10:07.28 | Primer | FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 10:08.05 | mitch0 | see, now your keyboard is broken, too |
| 10:08.45 | Bluspacecow | *throws keyboard at wall and stomps on it* |
| 10:08.51 | Bluspacecow | now it dead ! |
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| 10:09.49 | airtonix | time for haiku? |
| 10:11.25 | Bluspacecow | Haikus are easy, But sometimes they don't make sense, Refrigerator. |
| 10:14.21 | airtonix | you've distracted me from stargate |
| 10:15.01 | Primer | bah, it must be something I did in my code |
| 10:15.06 | Primer | disabled my addon, now it loads |
| 10:16.27 | mikma | sioraiocht: i was sleeping like a babyh! |
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| 10:20.48 | Napoleone | so achievements does not stack onto at the guild xp part? |
| 10:20.57 | Napoleone | then try not to get any before you need it |
| 10:25.44 | airtonix | how do you get out of thumb locks? |
| 10:25.50 | nevcairiel | achievements dont give any xp anymore |
| 10:29.34 | mikma | primer: local function lol() print("lol"); lol() end; lol() |
| 10:30.25 | Primer | naw, it was some sort of fluke |
| 10:30.38 | Primer | I reverted my code, then back, and I'm fine |
| 10:32.04 | Primer | awesome, I think I have everything working |
| 10:33.13 | DJJeff | Dear blizzard, when my friend already has an acct and cant get Recruit a Friend, please offer annother option that if we pay a fee then we can link accts that would be so bad @ss! |
| 10:36.07 | airtonix | Dear DJJeff, qqmoar |
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| 10:48.31 | harl | hi |
| 10:51.55 | airtonix | hi |
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| 11:13.26 | Adys | werent there outland instance maps? |
| 11:16.28 | A-KO | anyone know where the new armor vendors are? |
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| 11:24.58 | nevcairiel | Adys: nop, outland didnt get any |
| 11:25.13 | sioraiocht | mikma: it's cool, Jo made the decision for you |
| 11:25.16 | Adys | fail |
| 11:26.05 | zenzio | IIRC they only gave Lich King dungeons maps initially, guessing they added "new old world" maps in 4.x? |
| 11:26.14 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 11:26.21 | nevcairiel | all dungeons except outland have maps now |
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| 11:54.59 | jnwhiteh | mikma: sorry, I've just gotten back to my phone |
| 11:55.01 | jnwhiteh | do you want me to text you still? :P |
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| 11:58.24 | sylvanaar_work | jnwhiteh: how do you make tomtom lite change which quest it is pointing to |
| 11:58.36 | jnwhiteh | you change the sort order of yoru objective tracker |
| 11:58.48 | sylvanaar_work | ok, thats what i thought |
| 11:58.53 | jnwhiteh | it will always show the first trackable objective in your objective tracker |
| 11:58.56 | jnwhiteh | so you can un-track that quest |
| 11:59.04 | jnwhiteh | or set it to manual and move htem around |
| 11:59.11 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, it has been very handy leveling to 85 |
| 11:59.21 | sylvanaar_work | thanks for it |
| 11:59.24 | jnwhiteh | I did the entire thing staring at that stupid arrow :p |
| 11:59.32 | sylvanaar_work | me too |
| 11:59.34 | jnwhiteh | I have no idea what 90%^ of the quests and zones were about |
| 11:59.36 | jnwhiteh | I feel bad for that |
| 11:59.41 | sylvanaar_work | i did them in beta |
| 11:59.46 | sylvanaar_work | so i know some stuff |
| 12:00.02 | sylvanaar_work | but i skipped the same zones i skipped in beta |
| 12:00.12 | jnwhiteh | I haven't done Hyjal |
| 12:00.14 | jnwhiteh | which wasw a mistake |
| 12:00.16 | jnwhiteh | would have cut 4 ours off |
| 12:00.18 | jnwhiteh | hours |
| 12:00.22 | sylvanaar_work | i did all of hyjal and all of deepholm |
| 12:00.22 | jnwhiteh | or so |
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| 12:00.28 | jnwhiteh | Vash'ir is just SOOOOO slow |
| 12:00.30 | jnwhiteh | 3 quests |
| 12:00.32 | jnwhiteh | compelte them |
| 12:00.33 | jnwhiteh | 3 new quests |
| 12:00.35 | jnwhiteh | complete them |
| 12:00.38 | sylvanaar_work | i HATE vas |
| 12:00.41 | sylvanaar_work | vash |
| 12:00.49 | jnwhiteh | Twilight Highlands, I had 5-7 quests at a time, and that makes a huge difference. |
| 12:01.04 | sylvanaar_work | i have never gotten anywhere in twhl |
| 12:01.16 | jnwhiteh | I finished really early on |
| 12:01.21 | jnwhiteh | so i have so much still to do |
| 12:01.31 | sylvanaar_work | i did alot of dungeon running also |
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| 12:02.06 | sylvanaar_work | had some really good pugs which was amazing |
| 12:02.35 | jnwhiteh | I only did BRC and one run of totty |
| 12:02.40 | jnwhiteh | while leveling |
| 12:02.43 | jnwhiteh | done more since, but not much |
| 12:02.46 | jnwhiteh | they're long dungeons |
| 12:02.54 | jnwhiteh | an hour instead of the 15 minutes I'm used to :p |
| 12:02.59 | sylvanaar_work | i love running instances |
| 12:03.04 | jnwhiteh | me too |
| 12:03.08 | jnwhiteh | but its not a fast way to level, sadly |
| 12:03.16 | sylvanaar_work | HoO is a bit long though |
| 12:03.34 | jnwhiteh | very |
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| 12:03.52 | zenzio | I prefer long instances, but my groups never did |
| 12:04.04 | bluspacecow | and long walks on the beach |
| 12:04.04 | sylvanaar_work | i did 80-85 in about 35 hours |
| 12:04.08 | jnwhiteh | they just are difficult due to real life |
| 12:04.10 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar_work: nice! |
| 12:04.14 | jnwhiteh | I'm falling behind now |
| 12:04.21 | jnwhiteh | I was like 30th level 85 on my server or so |
| 12:04.28 | jnwhiteh | but they're all continuing the grind |
| 12:04.30 | jnwhiteh | and I can 't :P |
| 12:04.35 | jnwhiteh | and I have 2 weeks away from keys ccoming up |
| 12:04.40 | jnwhiteh | so I'll come back and have to catch up |
| 12:04.46 | jnwhiteh | don't even have heroic ilevel gear yet |
| 12:05.04 | sylvanaar_work | you'll get it - maybe faster because there will be more groups |
| 12:05.11 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 12:05.50 | sylvanaar_work | i still never got a healer relic by 85 |
| 12:06.00 | jnwhiteh | I have one |
| 12:06.02 | jnwhiteh | its just not great |
| 12:06.06 | sylvanaar_work | i have a dps caster relic, idk why its so hard to find |
| 12:06.22 | sylvanaar_work | maybe i can reforge the hit |
| 12:06.46 | jnwhiteh | here's me: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/derwydd/simple |
| 12:06.57 | jnwhiteh | reforging costs money I assume? |
| 12:07.02 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 12:07.12 | jnwhiteh | I need rings |
| 12:07.14 | jnwhiteh | mine are both 279 |
| 12:07.20 | jnwhiteh | I think that'd push be up higher |
| 12:07.29 | jnwhiteh | how is the average item level computed? |
| 12:07.36 | jnwhiteh | is it based on whats in your inventory? bank? |
| 12:07.43 | jnwhiteh | should I drop my sub-200 gear just to raise it? |
| 12:08.07 | sylvanaar_work | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/zuljin/sylvaan/simple |
| 12:09.45 | jnwhiteh | how _does_ average item level work? |
| 12:09.56 | sylvanaar_work | all the items in your bag and bank |
| 12:10.09 | sylvanaar_work | it takes the highest ones you can EQUIP |
| 12:10.15 | sylvanaar_work | and averages them |
| 12:10.21 | jnwhiteh | the _highest_ |
| 12:10.26 | jnwhiteh | interesting |
| 12:10.37 | sylvanaar_work | yep |
| 12:10.46 | jnwhiteh | I've been tossing gear based on wowhead stat points |
| 12:10.53 | jnwhiteh | perhaps I should start keepign the high ilevel ones |
| 12:10.54 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 12:10.56 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 12:11.01 | sylvanaar_work | keep high ilvl gear |
| 12:11.14 | jnwhiteh | bah. |
| 12:11.37 | sylvanaar_work | i have blue shoulders in my bag it looks like, unequipped |
| 12:11.44 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
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| 12:15.21 | karl_w_w | i thought if you tossed them it still remembers that you still had them and uses them for average |
| 12:15.33 | jnwhiteh | that would be nice |
| 12:15.44 | jnwhiteh | I need to buy JP gear, but I'm short by 900 JP I think |
| 12:17.45 | sylvanaar_work | yeah, i was max jp, then i sold some gems |
| 12:17.55 | sylvanaar_work | now i am like 3700 |
| 12:18.00 | jnwhiteh | you can sell gems for JP? |
| 12:18.03 | jnwhiteh | is confused |
| 12:18.11 | jnwhiteh | oh, you mean bought gems? |
| 12:18.12 | sylvanaar_work | you can sell jp for gems |
| 12:18.14 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 12:18.51 | sylvanaar_work | i was capped, so i felt like i should get something for all the heroics i was running for my trike |
| 12:18.56 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 12:18.59 | jnwhiteh | I need gems as well |
| 12:19.02 | jnwhiteh | i'm very ungemmed |
| 12:19.03 | jnwhiteh | ah well |
| 12:19.10 | jnwhiteh | I've got until Monday to even things out |
| 12:19.14 | jnwhiteh | so I'm in a good place come newyears |
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| 12:22.34 | airtonix | jnwhiteh, you are sans-gem |
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| 12:24.52 | karl_w_w | so blizzard dc me so i get to start from the back of a 2000 person queue |
| 12:24.53 | karl_w_w | nice |
| 12:25.09 | karl_w_w | just what you want, that is |
| 12:25.57 | airtonix | normally |
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| 12:26.04 | airtonix | i would say qqmoarnewb |
| 12:26.09 | airtonix | but this time |
| 12:26.20 | airtonix | instead i say |
| 12:26.24 | airtonix | tally ho chaps |
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| 12:36.58 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:36.59 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:37.00 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:40.12 | airtonix | i saw you |
| 12:56.05 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 12:56.12 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:56.34 | Kalroth | its unfair that jnwhiteh gets twice as many slaps as the rest of us |
| 13:00.02 | Kalroth | speaking of unfair, hi harl |
| 13:02.10 | DJJeff | sends hordes of lemmings over Fisker |
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| 16:12.03 | clever | sylvanaar_work: got another fun one |
| 16:12.18 | clever | sylvanaar_work: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/santa_truth |
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| 16:14.33 | clever | sylvanaar_work: LOL http://theoatmeal.com/comics/hooker |
| 16:14.59 | nicoli_s | man i wish wrath wasnt 40 buckas :( |
| 16:15.33 | sylvanaar_work | the hooker one is funny |
| 16:17.13 | clever | sylvanaar_work: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/halloween |
| 16:18.20 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 16:19.16 | sylvanaar_work | clever: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/phone |
| 16:20.34 | cog|sleep | jnwhiteh: Legorol: use moar diamond! we're up to 42 in the collective chest... :P |
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| 16:21.42 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 16:21.43 | Amarande | Arrow, you were talking about the Waygate yesterday? Apparently it does work both ways still, after completing the quest. |
| 16:23.10 | cogwheel | Fisker: |
| 16:23.27 | airtonix | peasants |
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| 16:25.32 | foxlit | oh hey, they got someone else to stand in for Jimmy. |
| 16:26.23 | Adys | ~fisker |
| 16:26.23 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, fisker is like, the #wowace channel troll. worthless, or always one step ahead of the average troll, on fire |
| 16:26.25 | airtonix | i hope they have lube |
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| 16:27.25 | Adys | ~fisker is also http://tinyurl.com/fisker1 |
| 16:27.25 | purl | okay, Adys |
| 16:29.57 | airtonix | lol |
| 16:30.10 | airtonix | your turn fisker |
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| 16:32.00 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: I'm too busy playing WoW |
| 16:32.03 | jnwhiteh | I'll MC when I'm on holiday |
| 16:32.23 | cogwheel | *nod* i should probably be too |
| 16:32.25 | cogwheel | :P |
| 16:34.57 | Fisker | anyone know what golden orbs in vortex pinnacle is for? |
| 16:35.05 | nevcairiel | achievement |
| 16:35.07 | nevcairiel | collect 5 |
| 16:35.14 | nevcairiel | otherwise, no idea :P |
| 16:35.18 | Fisker | need more use than that |
| 16:35.23 | Amarande | Golden Orbs restore you to full life when you die and, IIRC, don't send you back to the checkpoint ... oh, wrong game. |
| 16:36.04 | Fisker | you are a bad person Amarande |
| 16:36.08 | Fisker | but it's ok |
| 16:39.31 | alestane | Someone just asked me if he could get a virus by pasting his password into the login screen instead of typing it. I had to remind myself that ignorance is curable. |
| 16:41.39 | nevcairiel | should've said yes |
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| 16:42.14 | alestane | That doesn't make him any less ignorant or misinformed. |
| 16:43.39 | Fisker | yeees |
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| 16:51.48 | clever | ooooo |
| 16:52.10 | clever | my addon has revealed an interesting spell, update zone auras and phase shift |
| 16:52.35 | TC-Work | alestane: i'm not so sure it is curable |
| 16:52.35 | Kalroth | Well aren't you clever! |
| 16:52.39 | Kalroth | :P |
| 16:52.42 | TC-Work | ~lart Kalroth |
| 16:52.42 | purl | moos at Kalroth |
| 16:52.46 | Kalroth | :( |
| 16:52.56 | TC-Work | Puns will be shot on site |
| 16:52.59 | Kalroth | Sorry, it was too obvious! |
| 16:53.00 | TC-Work | as well as the one making them |
| 16:53.04 | Fisker | K-k-k-k-kalroth |
| 16:53.06 | TC-Work | sight* |
| 16:53.06 | Fisker | kkkk |
| 16:53.31 | Kalroth | Hej Fisker, din gamle fjæssing! |
| 16:53.45 | alestane | Willful ignorance, TC-Work, usually turns out to be. But there really are people who just never learned better. |
| 16:54.13 | alestane | incurable* |
| 16:54.53 | Kalroth | It's a Danish trait, alestane |
| 16:55.08 | alestane | Willful ignorance? |
| 16:55.31 | Kalroth | That too, I thought you were talking about bad puns |
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| 16:56.23 | alestane | I don't know word than a couple words of Danish yet, but it seems like a language given to puns. |
| 16:56.29 | alestane | mare* than |
| 16:56.32 | alestane | more* than |
| 16:56.41 | zenzelezz | that's because all their sounds sound the same |
| 16:56.46 | zenzelezz | kamelåså! |
| 16:57.48 | sioraiocht | kamelåså! |
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| 16:58.13 | sioraiocht | alestane: just learn "rødgrød med fløde" |
| 16:58.23 | alestane | What does that actually mean? |
| 16:58.31 | sioraiocht | red porridge with cream |
| 16:58.36 | alestane | I saw the comic where they try to teach America to say it. |
| 16:59.17 | alestane | Does the final "e" make any sound? |
| 16:59.29 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 16:59.35 | Amarande | hmm, do you get xp from fishing? |
| 16:59.36 | sioraiocht | no |
| 16:59.59 | sioraiocht | [ËÊɶð̪ËËÉ¡ÌÊÉ¶Ã°ÌªË mÉ ËfløËð̪̩] |
| 17:00.15 | zenzelezz | that looks more like Icelandish |
| 17:00.18 | sioraiocht | rød and grød both appear to have the stød |
| 17:00.28 | Lopeppeppy | Looks outlandish to me. |
| 17:00.29 | sioraiocht | zenzelezz: ð is a symbol in IPA =) |
| 17:00.50 | sioraiocht | [ð] is the sound made for Iceland <ð> |
| 17:00.50 | clever | the phasing is causing minor glitches |
| 17:00.51 | alestane | I haven't had a major reason to learn IPA yet. |
| 17:00.59 | sioraiocht | alestane: if you are learning Danish |
| 17:01.03 | sioraiocht | it will help |
| 17:01.10 | alestane | I'm not really. |
| 17:01.32 | alestane | Except insofar as I try and remember and tidbit of language I come in contact with. |
| 17:01.44 | sioraiocht | ah |
| 17:01.58 | sioraiocht | can read it but not speak or understand it spoken |
| 17:02.28 | alestane | I can still say "Thank you" and "You're welcome" in Greek, and I remember how to say "Happy New Year" in Norwegian. |
| 17:03.27 | Lopeppeppy | I think I know how to say "please" in greek. |
| 17:03.34 | sioraiocht | you think? |
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| 17:04.00 | Lopeppeppy | I remember the phrase, which I think is, "Could I have some milk, please?" But I am absolutely not sure!!!! |
| 17:04.40 | airtonix | :( |
| 17:04.43 | airtonix | http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-a-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux |
| 17:04.49 | airtonix | :( :( :( |
| 17:05.29 | alestane | My usual stance is that if you have the opportunity to learn a very little bit of some new language, start with the equivalents of "Thank you" and "I'm sorry." These go a huge way toward smoothing over nearly any situation. |
| 17:05.55 | alestane | (Far better than my friend in college who wanted to be able to say in any language on Earth, "May I have your daughter?" |
| 17:06.06 | airtonix | and "Bend Over, I'm applying lube" |
| 17:06.13 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. Nasty boy. |
| 17:06.27 | airtonix | that actually goes down well in greece |
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| 17:06.38 | airtonix | get it? goes down... hur hur |
| 17:06.41 | airtonix | sigh |
| 17:06.54 | airtonix | :( |
| 17:07.12 | airtonix | RoomTempIQ says hello |
| 17:08.00 | msoul | kazzak status: locked |
| 17:08.26 | airtonix | that only happens if you use pirated versions of wow |
| 17:08.40 | msoul | heh |
| 17:08.51 | msoul | should move my chars elsewhere |
| 17:09.12 | msoul | fcm, Emeriss and Genjuros |
| 17:09.46 | msoul | I wonder if my questlog would reset everything if I do so |
| 17:11.29 | Amarande | 40+ minute queues for DPS. *sigh* |
| 17:11.35 | Amarande | what's the bottleneck this time? Tanks again, or healers? |
| 17:11.44 | msoul | atleast you're in.... |
| 17:12.16 | Amarande | if you use a pirated version of WoW your Steamwheedle Cartel rep is locked to Hated and your Bloodsail to Exalted |
| 17:12.37 | Amarande | also the Consortium will not do business with you |
| 17:12.53 | Fisker | i gotta pee |
| 17:13.34 | msoul | it's silly really to wait hours |
| 17:13.54 | Industrial | I HAS A CATACLYSM |
| 17:14.03 | Industrial | shreads the packaging |
| 17:14.06 | Industrial | -a |
| 17:14.13 | msoul | Adys: ping |
| 17:14.25 | Adys | msoul: yes? |
| 17:14.32 | zenzelezz | so I'm in the worgen starting area, and people in general chat are complaining about... not being able to fight in human form |
| 17:14.42 | zenzelezz | the solution seems obvious |
| 17:14.51 | msoul | Adys: got to twilight yesterday, good zone but for meh I enjoyed deepholm mostly |
| 17:14.57 | msoul | out of all zones |
| 17:15.18 | msoul | done 117 quests out of 125 and didn't find the other quests even |
| 17:15.29 | msoul | will continue searching for quests later |
| 17:15.46 | msoul | twilight reminds me somehow of blade edge mountains |
| 17:16.01 | msoul | combined with few other zones from tbc "weird thought" |
| 17:16.28 | Industrial | I HAS A 2K REALM QUEUE |
| 17:16.31 | Industrial | >_> |
| 17:16.38 | msoul | joiny my club :/ |
| 17:16.41 | msoul | -y |
| 17:16.58 | Industrial | Grim Batol eu horde \o/ |
| 17:17.07 | msoul | kazzak :/ |
| 17:17.09 | Industrial | haste: you are playing gb yes? |
| 17:17.23 | msoul | I am even considering moving my chars to the two options they gave us Emeriss, Genjuros |
| 17:17.32 | Industrial | haste: [ ] yes / [ ] yes |
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| 17:18.11 | Industrial | I'm just going to pick the hunter again because its loleasy to level |
| 17:19.02 | Industrial | well its hunter or shaman |
| 17:19.06 | Industrial | (my 80's) |
| 17:21.41 | Amarande | heh. gold spammers are still saying "Cataclysm will be arriving soon" |
| 17:22.03 | Lopeppeppy | So are the email phishers. |
| 17:22.13 | Amarande | msoul: don't take too long considering, or you'll get stranded. |
| 17:22.45 | Amarande | Industrial: ahhh, remember the good old days of Diablo II 1.10 when it first came out and there were 10k+ queues to create a game? :) |
| 17:23.34 | msoul | Amarande: I don't even know what that word means "stranded" |
| 17:23.36 | msoul | checking |
| 17:23.50 | msoul | o hi see |
| 17:24.01 | Amarande | msoul: it means your guildies picked one and moved, while you decided too late so Blizzard decided their quotas were met and now you're stuck. |
| 17:24.13 | Amarande | and you won't even be able to *pay* to transfer, because the destination server will be full and closed to them |
| 17:24.24 | Amarande | Countless guilds in BC were destroyed by that. |
| 17:24.43 | Amarande | WotLK seemed fairly devoid of it, probably because there didn't seem to be many server rebalancings during it. |
| 17:24.57 | Amarande | Possibly also because in WotLK, you were a lot less reliant on a guild |
| 17:25.00 | Lopeppeppy | you may even have all clicked "transfer" within 10 minutes of one another, and some just didn't get transferred while some did. |
| 17:25.16 | Amarande | Peppy: *exactly*. And when I bring up the topic, someone usually says I'm QQing too much. |
| 17:25.34 | msoul | Amarande: this guild I joined a week or so before cataclysm and I know only 1... none respond in gchat I just got a gz for ghitting 85 earlier today that's about it |
| 17:25.48 | Amarande | I've never actually been affected, but I've seen people on forums who did, many times. |
| 17:25.50 | msoul | so I am moving alone only and will apply to guilds while I am there |
| 17:26.11 | Lopeppeppy | It was a genuine social fallout of a system that fixed population problems... but caused others. |
| 17:26.28 | msoul | and pay for that... I hate the fact I have to wait hour(s) to get in and I'm even running dungeons with LFG so doesn't make any difference |
| 17:26.47 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/1550772 |
| 17:27.13 | msoul | Amarande: I just want to be sure if I will be loosing my quests in my questlog |
| 17:27.28 | Amarande | Peppy: I suspect complaints about it will be on the rise again now. |
| 17:27.45 | msoul | or just start from scratch which happened to me when I did "faction change" could be similar to that |
| 17:27.57 | Amarande | LK's social dynamics revolved much more heavily around the PUG and individual skill and gearedness, so that's probably why there are fewer complaints |
| 17:28.13 | Amarande | Cata ... though ... with all the guild emphasis? unngghhh. |
| 17:28.55 | Amarande | otoh, I suspect that after the first few weeks the free moves will mostly be avoided entirely by guilds |
| 17:28.57 | msoul | Industrial: move with me! |
| 17:29.05 | msoul | grim batol has the option too |
| 17:29.07 | Amarande | since you don't keep your *guild* when you transfer everyone |
| 17:29.25 | Amarande | which means that ... yeah, nobody's going to want to start over again at guild level one in order to spare themselves queues :S |
| 17:30.10 | msoul | 2261 |
| 17:30.16 | msoul | position in que |
| 17:30.45 | Industrial | msoul: noes my guild is on gb |
| 17:31.09 | Industrial | theys is good folk, they treat me well, feeds me |
| 17:32.39 | msoul | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1119453414 |
| 17:32.51 | msoul | enelye comment is hrm funny |
| 17:33.27 | msoul | the one after called blizz "horny for moneh" |
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| 17:40.42 | Industrial | 2000! 333 min left |
| 17:40.55 | msoul | 2197 |
| 17:51.03 | Fisker | shadowmourne is horrible in instances now |
| 17:51.47 | msoul | think the axe from vortex beats it "statwise" |
| 17:53.02 | Fisker | what axe? :O |
| 17:53.30 | msoul | I can't remember the name of it... a lame dk got it too :/ |
| 17:54.24 | Fisker | i just went through it |
| 17:54.31 | Fisker | don't recall any axe on any of the bosses |
| 17:54.48 | msoul | sec then... |
| 17:56.01 | airtonix | I don't recall a Fisker on any of those bosses |
| 17:56.19 | Fisker | i fucked you airtonix |
| 17:56.28 | airtonix | wait |
| 17:56.30 | airtonix | checking |
| 17:56.33 | airtonix | noo... |
| 17:56.37 | airtonix | no you didn't |
| 17:57.02 | Fisker | http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ravencrest/fiskerdin/feed <-sploits |
| 17:57.25 | Fisker | how would you know airtonix ? |
| 17:57.50 | airtonix | good point |
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| 18:04.33 | TC-Work | they need to have a different treasure hunt each day |
| 18:04.37 | TC-Work | it would be more better |
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| 18:05.43 | Lopeppeppy | Daily quest? |
| 18:06.19 | sylvanaar_work | anyone get infinity blade? |
| 18:07.00 | TC-Work | Lopeppeppy: no, i was talking about the steam thing. http://store.steampowered.com/treasurehunt |
| 18:07.34 | Lopeppeppy | Somehow I thought you were talking about archaeology in WoW |
| 18:07.52 | TC-Work | yea, i meant that to be at Kraps, but i forgot to put that |
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| 18:09.01 | TC-Work | i hope bejewled 3 goes on sale |
| 18:09.07 | TC-Work | so i can waste many an hour on it |
| 18:09.49 | Amarande | yay mal'ganis folks are still as bad as ever |
| 18:10.03 | Adys | Anyone else often getting bad authenticator codes? |
| 18:10.16 | Adys | it feels like the logins are much, much stricter now |
| 18:10.32 | TC-Work | i should really put an authenticator back on my account |
| 18:10.32 | foxlit | Maybe you should sync. |
| 18:10.45 | Adys | maybe I should implement syncing first :P |
| 18:11.00 | foxlit | Ah, in that case, maybe your implementation is fail :) |
| 18:11.18 | Adys | theres a difference between "fail" and "incomplete" |
| 18:11.39 | TC-Work | yes, one is just 'fail that can be fixed' |
| 18:12.13 | TC-Work | s/can be fixed'/has not been fixed yet'/ |
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| 18:23.26 | airtonix | @monologue |
| 18:23.31 | airtonix | !monologue |
| 18:23.36 | airtonix | :( |
| 18:25.23 | msoul | Fisker: I'm sure I've seen an axe today not so sure where I saw it now |
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| 18:28.20 | msoul | but yesterday while lvling killed one carrying it :/ his mates killed me though "before I got my nitro boosts on my belt" else I'd ran |
| 18:28.35 | airtonix | money well spent |
| 18:28.56 | msoul | 2 guildies from samper fi alliance... the majority ignores the opposite faction now except few lame kiddies |
| 18:29.07 | airtonix | to your detriment |
| 18:29.10 | airtonix | MWUAHAHA |
| 18:29.31 | msoul | 1941 this is crazy |
| 18:29.38 | airtonix | :( |
| 18:29.41 | msoul | estimated time 322 mins |
| 18:29.45 | msoul | lovely |
| 18:29.49 | airtonix | tea? |
| 18:29.59 | msoul | I am drinking tea as a matter of fact |
| 18:30.05 | msoul | heavy tea drinker |
| 18:30.11 | msoul | teaoholic! |
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| 18:31.04 | Amarande | msoul: and now with the guild leveling system even the free character move system will become unviable by the end of the year |
| 18:31.56 | msoul | Amarande: I told you, this guild I joined like a week or so before cata and I know only one that did rep runs for a day or so |
| 18:32.14 | Amarande | Poor Blizzard. This might put them in a pretty bad competitive position when TOR comes out. |
| 18:32.17 | msoul | so guild lvling sweetness wouldn't affect me that much |
| 18:32.40 | msoul | I'm actually planning to move to silvermoon and swtich factions |
| 18:32.46 | Cide | Amarande: TOR? |
| 18:32.51 | Cide | oh, lolwars |
| 18:32.53 | Amarande | Servers will still be as overloaded as always, since moving guilds and going back to level 1 is something few guilds will want to do, people will not want to subscribe to a game when their entire gameable time on a given day is spent sitting in the queue instead of being logged on |
| 18:32.55 | msoul | I find it less painful on allies side that Horde |
| 18:33.05 | Amarande | And the new game in town will be not only big-license Star Wars, but it's Bioware as well. |
| 18:33.16 | Amarande | Silvermoon US? |
| 18:33.18 | Cide | you do realize queues will be gone in a matter of weeks? |
| 18:33.30 | alestane | I don't think queues will remain a problem long. |
| 18:33.39 | Cide | and you do realize wow has 10+ millions of players, something lolwars will never have |
| 18:33.44 | Lopeppeppy | They're always a problem right around this time, and fall back off in mid-january. |
| 18:33.45 | Cide | s/millions/million/ |
| 18:33.48 | Lopeppeppy | It's just a seasonal thing. |
| 18:33.54 | Cide | or expansion thing :P |
| 18:34.03 | Amarande | Yeah, because they release expansions just in time for the college kids to have Christmas break |
| 18:34.08 | msoul | Amarande: EU, I wish I was on US WoW.. took blizz week(s) to think of wheather I deserve getting the US keys for the game I bought or not |
| 18:34.16 | alestane | Once kids aren't on Christmas vacation, once people aren't "ooh shiny!" excited about the expansion... |
| 18:34.17 | msoul | Amarande: called them and said NM playing on EU |
| 18:34.21 | Amarande | although in that respect, you'd think it wouldn't get bad until a couple weeks from now. |
| 18:34.28 | Amarande | since right now, the college kids are mostly busy with or getting ready for finals |
| 18:34.36 | Lopeppeppy | expansions make it far worse, but there's always a seasonal swelling of college students with free time, Cide |
| 18:34.53 | msoul | heh |
| 18:34.54 | Amarande | (you know, I wonder how many college kids fail their finals each expansion release year because of the timing. LOL) |
| 18:35.07 | msoul | their fault |
| 18:35.09 | msoul | not blizz |
| 18:35.25 | msoul | anyway... |
| 18:35.31 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: my college has the entire month of december off |
| 18:35.52 | msoul | I thought you did quit WoW Arrowmaster |
| 18:35.58 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 18:36.10 | Arrowmaster | but just saying, not all colleges are preping for finals |
| 18:36.35 | msoul | 1906 |
| 18:36.37 | msoul | madness |
| 18:37.27 | Amarande | btw, did they reduce the time on the Oracle egg or did they make it always hatch on a certain day of the week like they made all the crafting CDs end at midnight? |
| 18:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | various schools have varying schedules. generally speaking, there is often more free time in the college student's life during the month of december and sometimes january |
| 18:38.11 | Arrowmaster | maybe it was just my college but i dont see what the big deal about finals is, i never had any issues with them and never studied for them |
| 18:38.51 | syrae | Amarande: 3 day hatch time now |
| 18:40.43 | Amarande | syrae: ah. was wondering if it was that or if they made it "weekly" like the craftings are "daily" |
| 18:41.01 | Amarande | I also really hope they fixed that bug in crafting CDs, but I can't talk about it here. |
| 18:41.13 | syrae | Amarande: they also increased the green proto drop rate slightly |
| 18:41.54 | msoul | does anyone remember the name of the mount that drops in vortex in hc? |
| 18:43.59 | Amarande | hmm, speaking of items, I'm guessing that cata green gems are pretty much useless. |
| 18:44.02 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5695282/kotakus-2010-gift-guide-of-obscene-nicety-and-sublime-naughtiness |
| 18:44.30 | msoul | Amarande: I was trying to grab the quest in twilight earlier but there was none |
| 18:44.34 | msoul | in that arena in twilight |
| 18:44.46 | msoul | checking wowhead as we speak |
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| 18:44.49 | Amarande | and possibly ought to be vendored rather than auctioned when I level JC. particularly as gems tend to have highish deposits for low-cost items. |
| 18:46.02 | Amarande | let's see. ilvl 285 requirement means you can't use green cata gems for leveling like you could use green LK gems as cheap socket fillers while leveling through BC |
| 18:46.21 | Amarande | and I'm not sure I've even seen a qualifying item that HAS a socket, maybe a relic but that's about it |
| 18:47.00 | Amarande | do you even get any non-relic items while leveling in cata that have sockets and are too low level to accept blue gems? |
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| 18:47.18 | Amarande | (assuming the blue gems don't have the same 285 requirement, which I haven't checked) |
| 18:49.30 | Industrial | 1650! |
| 18:49.33 | Industrial | -_- |
| 18:51.12 | Kraps | i know marvel is a comic book company but whats capcom? |
| 18:51.41 | msoul | oi baby you're hurting my eyes |
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| 18:58.59 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv7877pi4NU#t=2m50s |
| 18:59.04 | Adys | Reward: Kata-Mary Crown |
| 18:59.11 | Adys | Na na, na na na na na na na na na nanana-na na |
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| 19:07.12 | Thrae | Hey I bet this question has been asked before, but did Blizzard open up their quest marker API with 4.0? |
| 19:07.21 | Napoleone | hmm if i want a macro to talk to the first option? and then Accept |
| 19:07.36 | Industrial | motherfuckers >:@ I was at 1600 got disconnected |
| 19:07.49 | Industrial | (from 2200 in HOURS) |
| 19:08.11 | Thrae | Napoleone, A macro that talks to someone or a macro that just accepts whatever they want after you click on the NPC? |
| 19:08.58 | Thrae | There are Auto-Accept addons which I believe with work the Dialog boxes and related events talking to NPCs. I don't think you can condense that down into macro form. |
| 19:09.07 | Industrial | dohhhh, grim batol and boulderfist EU are doen |
| 19:09.36 | Industrial | hm maybe thats a good thing and I can log on as one of the first :P |
| 19:09.49 | Napoleone | last part |
| 19:09.53 | olafski | my world server went down industrial :( |
| 19:10.00 | Napoleone | its for the new CoC |
| 19:10.28 | olafski | napoleone: idQuestAutomation |
| 19:10.43 | olafski | napoleone: industrial will thank you ;) |
| 19:10.48 | Thrae | Napoleone, Yeah you need an addon for that, like olafski linked. |
| 19:11.00 | Thrae | Industrial is a self-hating addon author. |
| 19:11.19 | Thrae | He also wrote TinyTip, so annoy him for a patch on that. |
| 19:11.33 | mikma | how do you get to tanaris? :P where's the ship? |
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| 19:11.48 | Industrial | nu-uh |
| 19:11.56 | Industrial | all patches to TinyTip towards Thrae |
| 19:12.07 | Thrae | Industrial, Don't be so modest! |
| 19:12.07 | Industrial | and yeah I like reinventing the wheel and generally self-hating |
| 19:12.12 | Industrial | xD |
| 19:12.54 | Cide | at least you haven't attempted to write an implementation of sql yet |
| 19:13.01 | Thrae | Industrial also made these addons: Decursive 1.0, Healbot, Grid, Deadly Boss Mods, QuestHelper, and the Blizzard Raid frames (he's so good Blizz asked him). |
| 19:13.33 | Industrial | Thrae: you forget Cosmos |
| 19:13.48 | Thrae | Industrial, I thought you renamed it "Khaos". |
| 19:13.48 | Industrial | Cide: working on a lua web stack though *flex* |
| 19:14.14 | Thrae | I didn't list it because I didn't want haters. |
| 19:14.27 | Industrial | https://github.com/Industrial/luablog |
| 19:14.58 | Arrowmaster | didnt jnwhiteh already do that |
| 19:15.27 | Thrae | Industrial, You mean like LAMP? |
| 19:15.34 | Industrial | no, also, see my statement on reinventing the wheel |
| 19:16.05 | sylvanaar_work | ok, so i dont like this razer mouse i bought |
| 19:16.15 | sylvanaar_work | any of you have the cyborg |
| 19:16.41 | Thrae | sylvanaar_work, Nope I have the MMO one because I always wanted a numpad on my mouse. |
| 19:16.55 | sylvanaar_work | its too small for my hand |
| 19:17.24 | Thrae | Hmm this Razr fits into my hand OK. It's a *little* small but not small enough it hurts. |
| 19:17.51 | Thrae | You gotta watch out for these ergonomic mice. They usually don't fit all hand sizes =/ |
| 19:18.19 | sylvanaar_work | http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-T-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B003CP0BHM |
| 19:18.21 | mikma | thrae: wife bought razer lycosa (keyboard) today |
| 19:19.02 | sylvanaar_work | its ugly |
| 19:19.28 | sylvanaar_work | but, if it fits my hand ... plus i read that it has awesome macroing |
| 19:20.28 | Thrae | The new series of Razr mice do have much better macro'ing capabilities. |
| 19:20.47 | Thrae | My Razr Naga was the first mouse I ever owned that could update its firmware...and that needed it =/ |
| 19:20.57 | sylvanaar_work | lol |
| 19:21.05 | Industrial | Thrae: right now its just CGI served but eventually I'd love it to be served with asynchronous IO, being it's own app server instance. NodeJS is a nice matured example of this (in serverside javascript). Nodejs.org |
| 19:21.33 | sylvanaar_work | i was excited at first. but i cant get used to the placement of the fwd/back buttons |
| 19:23.50 | Amarande | btw, is there an upgrade for pitbull that fixes the dungeon group bug yet? |
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| 19:24.21 | Thrae | Upgrade to Pitbull -- use Shadowed_oUF. ckknight recommends this. |
| 19:24.38 | Shadowed | wat |
| 19:24.50 | Thrae | Shadowed was not around to comment. |
| 19:24.59 | mikma | he's an ass anyway |
| 19:25.18 | Industrial | woot, grim batol is up |
| 19:25.21 | Industrial | I'm logged in |
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| 19:26.12 | Thrae | There should be a server for all the goth/emo girls that secretly wanted to get into the cheerleading squads. |
| 19:26.16 | Thrae | "Grim Baton" |
| 19:29.08 | Industrial | haha |
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| 19:32.58 | sylvanaar_work | Forsaken Cheerleaders |
| 19:33.31 | sylvanaar_work | They do cartwheels and parts fall off. |
| 19:35.37 | sylvanaar_work | Actually Sounds like a good guild name |
| 19:36.29 | Kraps | is Donnie Darko goog? |
| 19:36.43 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 19:36.46 | nicoli_s | very good |
| 19:37.36 | Kraps | goog |
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| 19:47.22 | Fisker | anyone done SFK HC? |
| 19:47.41 | foxlit | "This review is from: Uranium Ore |
| 19:47.41 | foxlit | I purchased this product 4.47 Billion Years ago and when I opened it today, it was half empty." |
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| 19:49.45 | Amarande | foxlit: fail |
| 19:50.07 | Amarande | Should be "I purchased this product 4.47 billion years ago and when I opened it today, I found out the lead content was 50%! Where did they make this stuff, China?" |
| 19:50.09 | nevcairiel | Fisker: yea |
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| 19:51.40 | Fisker | springvale doable for you nevcairiel ? |
| 19:51.48 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 19:52.00 | nevcairiel | kill adds fast, and kick their cast |
| 19:52.08 | newbie13 | Thrae: wtf |
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| 19:52.30 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt quit an instance, we always finish it :p |
| 19:53.26 | Amarande | we had our group fall apart in the middle of Stonecore because of bad tanks. |
| 19:53.37 | Amarande | our first tank was a druid, and apparently druids may not cut the mustard now outside of boss situations :( |
| 19:53.42 | Thrae | I hate the tank hate. |
| 19:53.54 | nevcairiel | I've been doing all my heroics with a druid tank |
| 19:53.55 | nevcairiel | its fine. |
| 19:54.10 | Amarande | Thrae: our second tank just /sat there and let me deal with everything in DPS gear because he whined that he didn't think the healer was good enough. |
| 19:54.16 | nevcairiel | the third boss in stonecore (the giant), is rather tricky, and requires some good tanking |
| 19:54.27 | Amarande | And when we called him on it he was like "I'm the tank, I'm the only important one" etc. |
| 19:54.48 | Amarande | He was literally the first vote kick I called for in Cata. Reason: "attitude" and it passed probably unanimously. |
| 19:55.05 | Thrae | Amarande, Oh well that's different. |
| 19:55.18 | Thrae | What level does SK HC start at? |
| 19:55.47 | Thrae | Is that one of the new 85 dungeons or 81+? |
| 19:55.54 | Amarande | basically, he said I wasn't important when I tried to explain to him to actually DO something because I had to leave for work in a bit over 2 hours from that point, and a new group wouldn't be possible for me since I could expect an hour in the queue first. He claimed that as the tank, he's the only one that matters, and DPS don't matter. |
| 19:56.04 | Amarande | Server he was from: Mal'Ganis. Are you surprised. :) |
| 19:56.06 | Fisker | some guy said it was impossible :o |
| 19:56.07 | Amarande | Thrae: 85 |
| 19:56.11 | Fisker | then we just nuked the boss and won |
| 19:56.49 | Kraps | this is a neat idea http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1213111609 |
| 19:57.17 | Thrae | Amarande, Yeah, he was full of it. Bear Tanks 81+ are actually one of the BEST tanks right now. They have the highest DPS due to imbalanced Mangle (which is now more important for holding threat), and they newly have Thrash for AoE situations. |
| 19:57.58 | Thrae | Bear Health 81+ is even more insane than it was in WotLK. |
| 19:58.06 | Amarande | The second tank was a warrior, which I was actually glad for at the time. |
| 19:58.25 | Amarande | Here's the problem with druids: Their AoE, far as I can tell, is extremely limited and always on a CD. |
| 19:58.37 | Amarande | Then you run into the Millhouse pulls, and newer druid tanks are like "OMG WE MUST ATTACK THE NAMED MOB" |
| 19:58.57 | Amarande | of course, the Stonecore guys are the priority target, then you try to attack them and end up with aggro, and even plate DPS has a hard time staying alive on those. |
| 19:58.59 | Thrae | Prot. Warriors are still EZ-Mode compared to Druids, but they're all mostly EZ |
| 19:59.19 | nevcairiel | Druids are fine tanks, you just had sucky players then |
| 19:59.43 | Amarande | I died twice there so we could get the damn Stonecores down fast enough to not get wiped |
| 19:59.55 | Thrae | Amarande, Well Cataclysm Heroics were designed to have less AoE encounters. But no, Bear Tanks don't have CD except GCD on their main AoE -- Swipe. |
| 19:59.59 | Jamash | So is it possible to queue for a "random" dungeon when you only have one dungeon discovered? |
| 20:00.05 | nevcairiel | i guess |
| 20:00.09 | nevcairiel | wont be much random in it |
| 20:00.23 | Jamash | well, I only have one discovered and it won't let me |
| 20:00.23 | Amarande | Jamash: I'm pretty sure you can. |
| 20:00.23 | Thrae | haha that would be good for the random rewards + farming items |
| 20:00.26 | Amarande | Jamash: do you meet the item level requirement? |
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| 20:00.40 | Thrae | (Farming items from just one dungeon, that is) |
| 20:00.52 | Jamash | it'll let me queue for the dungeon if I select "specific dungeons" and only check that one (the underwater one) |
| 20:01.07 | Thrae | ckknight, And as for you...don't be hatin'. |
| 20:01.22 | Adys | can someone explain me how the daily/weekly guild rep cap works? |
| 20:01.26 | ckknight | :P |
| 20:01.35 | Adys | I am capped at 5800 through friendly ish, and a few guildies already are honored |
| 20:01.51 | Adys | and i played more than them |
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| 20:01.57 | Jamash | I think it's broken. |
| 20:02.21 | Jamash | People seem to be getting halted at inconsistent rep values |
| 20:02.44 | Thrae | I've been hearing the guild caps are broken but not specifics on exactly how. |
| 20:02.47 | Adys | sure looks that way |
| 20:03.15 | Jamash | like, my main is at 869/6000 friendly |
| 20:03.34 | Fisker | you were not quick enough |
| 20:03.37 | Jamash | which is piddling |
| 20:03.39 | nevcairiel | you could get two badges of rep already if you managed to hit the cap until 3am on tuesday |
| 20:03.47 | Lunessa | Dumb question time: If I do a FrameName:ClearAllPoints() the next UI reload should set the frame back to default, no? |
| 20:03.48 | Amarande | Dammit. Still no update for Pitbull. |
| 20:03.56 | nevcairiel | which apparently is the week change day |
| 20:04.22 | Jamash | Lunessa: Everything gets torn down and rebuilt on reloadui |
| 20:04.24 | Adys | reminds me, eu guys: was there a long maintenance on wednesday? |
| 20:04.29 | nevcairiel | none |
| 20:04.36 | Adys | sweet |
| 20:04.58 | Jamash | The only things that don't get reset on reloadui are savedvariables and the horrible frame layout cache |
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| 20:06.19 | Fisker | fart Jamash |
| 20:06.28 | Jamash | ignite Fisker. |
| 20:07.06 | Lunessa | Jamash: Yeah, someone did something naughty to their WatchFrame and I just wanted to clear it's settings then reload the UI. I assumed that would be enough, but wasn't certain. |
| 20:07.43 | Jamash | it should be, probably, maybe |
| 20:07.44 | Primer | jnwhiteh: I know you said your code was "All right reserved", but if I copy some parts verbatim, as I have in the past, and give full attribution, as I've always done in the past as well...would that be OK? |
| 20:07.49 | Lunessa | gah, wrong "its" |
| 20:08.16 | Jamash | argh, all my alts are in dalaran |
| 20:08.22 | Fisker | btw nevcairiel |
| 20:08.25 | Primer | and not getting rest XP! |
| 20:08.32 | Fisker | did you see sandy bridge appearing in stores? |
| 20:08.41 | Primer | I found that out last night. Logged in one of my 80s, thinking I was getting rest XP...nope |
| 20:08.42 | nevcairiel | was only weird stores |
| 20:08.46 | nevcairiel | without any specific infos |
| 20:08.46 | Primer | gotta log them in to get it |
| 20:08.47 | Thrae | Amarande, FYI, the Druid Tank AoEs at 81+ are -- Swipe (6s CD) and Thrash (6s CD) with a 3m (2.5m Glyphed) AoE Taunt. If Maul is Glyphed, which is should be unless the encounter demands it not be, Maul can also hit 2 enemies. Druid Tanks can also hit Berserk to get a GCD Mangle which can hit 3 targets, and finally their Demo. Roar on 1m CD gives threat (but not a ton). |
| 20:09.29 | Thrae | So yes, Druid Tanks at 81+ that can't AoE Tank do usually just suck. |
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| 20:10.18 | Primer | Hi Esamynn |
| 20:10.37 | Jamash | okay, so is first aid worth leveling, ever? |
| 20:10.40 | Thrae | Skull Bash and Feral Charge are on separate cooldowns, right? |
| 20:10.53 | nevcairiel | Fisker: give specific info about the gigabyte models! |
| 20:11.09 | Primer | Esamynn: I'm using Astrolabe in 2 of my addons. Yesterday I've successfully integrated Astrolabe 1.0 into FlightHUD. Just thought perhaps I could pick your brain here regarding it some time |
| 20:11.23 | Thrae | Jamash, If you play a non-Healer class yes it really helps for questing. It also helps on PvP servers or any PvP situation. |
| 20:11.43 | Thrae | It can help in non-Heroic dungeons if used properly...usually isn't |
| 20:12.24 | Thrae | I remember tanking Maradon with my Druid and getting healed with First Aid after the Healer went OOM. Those were the days! |
| 20:12.38 | Jamash | lately the only use I've gotten out of first aid is bandaging my water elemental |
| 20:13.39 | Thrae | http://www.wowhead.com/item=48720 <-- once again a confusing tooltip for our lovely Feral Druid Spec |
| 20:13.41 | Jamash | the problem is it doesn't scale |
| 20:13.55 | Jamash | Thrae: buh huh what? |
| 20:14.06 | Jamash | glyph of do less damage? |
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| 20:14.44 | Thrae | Reading the comments that's exactly what it does, so the tooltip is exactly right. Here I was giving Blizz the benefit of the doubt! |
| 20:15.22 | Thrae | Hopefully the Glyph is bugged and it's suppose to add the extra damage, just without *taking* the energy. Otherwise it's a completely useless glyph. |
| 20:15.57 | Xyphoid | not necessarily surely, if you have other uses for the energy |
| 20:16.59 | Xyphoid | it depends on how good the extra energy -> damage ratio is compared to your other abilities |
| 20:17.23 | Xyphoid | (i'm a couple of years out of date on feral stats though) |
| 20:18.02 | Thrae | Xyphoid, Well FB hasn't been in the rotation for a while and was seriously buffed (again) in Cata. The problem with this glyph is that you want an OOC proc to do a FB which gives you the maximum damage possible per combo point, without taking energy. |
| 20:18.28 | Thrae | OOC isn't exactly something you can plan in a rotation. |
| 20:21.23 | Primer | I'm curious about GetCurrentMapAreaID(). In some code I've seen, I see its output assigned to two variables: local map, floor = GetCurrentMapAreaID(). Yet, every time I've every run it manually from the game, it's always only returned one value, the map. Are there times when it returns multiple values? If so, should I always check for floor being nil after each call? |
| 20:21.31 | Xyphoid | so you will never FB without the OOC proc now? |
| 20:21.36 | Primer | I can find no documentation for that function, btw |
| 20:22.18 | Primer | I have a feral druid, but I'm having a brain fart...FB? |
| 20:22.22 | Jamash | Floor is probably related to multi-floor dungeons |
| 20:22.35 | Primer | too many acronyms |
| 20:22.40 | Jamash | ferocious bite |
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| 20:22.44 | Primer | ahh thanks |
| 20:22.53 | Primer | yes, I work that into my rotation only on long fights |
| 20:22.57 | Primer | when all my dots are up |
| 20:23.06 | Primer | feral still doing decent DPS on single target |
| 20:23.10 | Primer | but crap on AOE |
| 20:23.28 | Thrae | Xyphoid, The only other situation I can think of is situations where I'd have extra energy |
| 20:23.36 | Primer | when all my dots are up and I have 5 combo points to burn |
| 20:23.52 | Primer | and rip isn't near being up |
| 20:23.55 | Thrae | s#of is#of are# |
| 20:24.12 | mikma | what? |
| 20:24.16 | Thrae | Xyphoid, I'm not saying someone can't find a use for it in their rotation, but that doesn't make it a useful glyph for *most* people. |
| 20:24.26 | Primer | bot doesn't recognize anything other than s/// |
| 20:24.30 | Xyphoid | sounds like a well-designed glyph then |
| 20:24.39 | Thrae | Primer, I know. |
| 20:24.44 | Nobgul | Which Glyph? |
| 20:24.48 | mikma | thrae: stop talking about wow. this cannot be happening! |
| 20:25.01 | Primer | Thrae: I love confounding other perl developers by using s,,, a lot |
| 20:25.24 | Thrae | http://www.wowhead.com/item=48720 <-- this glyph for Cats. |
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| 20:25.47 | Nobgul | My boomkin is getting raped while lvling. |
| 20:25.47 | Primer | I don't use that one |
| 20:25.52 | Nobgul | I was going to go feral |
| 20:26.03 | Nobgul | lvl 83 1/2 and its rough. |
| 20:26.04 | Primer | I love feral. Never once rolled boomkin |
| 20:26.09 | Primer | already have 2 other casters |
| 20:26.14 | Thrae | Nobgul, Feral is good once you get Cat. |
| 20:26.16 | Primer | I'm 82.5 |
| 20:26.25 | Thrae | I hear Bears are actually getting a bit raped at lower levels. |
| 20:26.30 | Nobgul | I lvled to 70 as feral then boomkin pre 3.3 when mana was a issue |
| 20:26.45 | Primer | I was feral DPS and tank to 80, then went resto tank |
| 20:26.50 | Nobgul | I tried to heal the instance Lost city of w/e it is |
| 20:26.51 | Primer | then went resto cat |
| 20:26.56 | mikma | i am leveling a rogue with my wife, shes feral cat / healer. kinda cool combo |
| 20:27.07 | Nobgul | I couldnt keep up so i went dps and they brought in a 85 resto druid |
| 20:27.11 | Nobgul | 120k mana |
| 20:27.17 | Nobgul | made me sad panda |
| 20:27.33 | Primer | meh, logged out in my resto set. I wish the armory had the ability to show toons in their alternate gear sets |
| 20:27.49 | zenzelezz | "EasyDNS, a DNS and hosting provider, was mistakenly identified in press accounts as the entity that knocked wikileaks.org off the Net. It wasn't them, it was EveryDNS, a completely separate outfit. EasyDNS suffered a series of online reprisals as the false attribution spread. When WikiLeaks approached them to add to the robustness of their DNS support, EasyDNS said yes." |
| 20:28.04 | zenzelezz | "Hey boss, should we double-check those names?" "Nah, let's just publish" |
| 20:28.22 | Nobgul | LOL |
| 20:28.31 | Primer | nice |
| 20:28.43 | mikma | oh man |
| 20:28.44 | Thrae | Xyphoid, Considering that's the only Major Glyph that even comes close to being raid-worthy for Cats and it still only helps in maybe 10% of the situations, I would say that's pretty poorly designed. |
| 20:28.52 | mikma | time to change the name of firm i guess |
| 20:29.03 | mikma | LeakDNS |
| 20:30.05 | Thrae | Unless Cata raids have a lot of dangerous, fleeing targets. |
| 20:30.07 | mikma | "where are you going?" 'to take a leak' |
| 20:30.22 | Thrae | Then Cats have 2 possible raid-worthy Major Glyphs. |
| 20:30.27 | Xyphoid | rebirth! |
| 20:30.41 | Thrae | Yeah but that's not really Cat-specific ;) |
| 20:31.13 | Thrae | I swap that out for all my Druid builds now that we don't need to spend as much $$ re-inscribing. |
| 20:32.16 | Thrae | Bear Tanks also don't have a lot of Major Gylphs either .... actually wait, this Wowhead pop-up is bugged |
| 20:33.15 | Thrae | Oh it's not bugged. It just took out the ones I already selected. Nevermind. |
| 20:33.36 | foxlit | Rebirth. |
| 20:33.40 | foxlit | Always take Rebirth! |
| 20:34.07 | Thrae | So all Bear Tanks should have Maul and Frenzied Regen, but Faerie Fire isn't always necessary. |
| 20:34.30 | Thrae | Especially if you're in a raid off-tanking. |
| 20:34.41 | foxlit | "should" is evil :) |
| 20:34.56 | Thrae | foxlit, "Must" is more evil. |
| 20:35.17 | Kraps | carbonite overrides the ingame quest tracker? |
| 20:35.32 | Xyphoid | i'm kind of sad at the lack of cata glyphs |
| 20:35.36 | Thrae | Kraps, Probably |
| 20:36.00 | Xyphoid | if nothing else it makes inscription levelling lame |
| 20:36.05 | Gagorian | ~seen Maul |
| 20:36.14 | purl | maul <~Tom@CPE-144-131-103-157.lns2.cht.bigpond.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 48d 3h 35m 48s ago, saying: 'http://www.livestream.com/xfire_blizzcon2010'. |
| 20:36.30 | Kraps | Thrae: strangely, i find it easier to quest with the ingame one |
| 20:37.01 | Thrae | Kraps, The author of QuestHelper already moved on. Blizz implemented key features from both QuestHelper and Carbonite. |
| 20:37.41 | Thrae | Speaking of Glyphs and other ways to max your char, whatever happened to Titan Paths? |
| 20:37.56 | Thrae | I totally forgot to look up how Archeology works. I should do so. |
| 20:37.57 | TechDevout | They became the new Glyph system, IIRC. |
| 20:37.58 | Xyphoid | cut. |
| 20:39.33 | Thrae | http://www.wowhead.com/spells=9.794 <-- aww, the items looked cool. I hope they're added by some other means. |
| 20:39.49 | Thrae | I want the Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron. |
| 20:39.55 | mikma | wobin: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/12/dr_octopus_prosthetic_tentacle.php |
| 20:39.58 | Xyphoid | archaeology is at least more engaging than fishing, i'm not going to touch it any more until i'm done with quests though |
| 20:40.09 | nicoli_s | i like never even see zorba in here anymore |
| 20:40.14 | Xyphoid | oh, archaeology is in, path of the titans is out |
| 20:40.19 | Thrae | Ah |
| 20:40.51 | Thrae | I hate Fishing and I hate Cooking and I hate how everyone expects you have both maxxed out. |
| 20:45.01 | foxlit | "everyone expects you have both maxxed out." << oh? |
| 20:45.38 | alestane | While I have some toons with everything, I've never taken any flak for not having one. |
| 20:46.01 | foxlit | Xyphoid: archeology is more annoying than fishing, though |
| 20:46.01 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: hes in here right now |
| 20:46.15 | foxlit | It's imprecise, which bugs me, and the design is... well, it gets old after the second time. |
| 20:46.29 | Xyphoid | yeah the red markers seem to be miles off sometimes |
| 20:46.41 | nicoli_s | well i dont see him talking |
| 20:46.44 | Xyphoid | red marker points east. i fly dead east, land, and get a red marker pointing northwest. |
| 20:46.58 | zenzelezz | I thought archaeology would be more like triangulation; place two or three markers and then get an estimated target |
| 20:47.01 | Fisker | what's the leading addon on mounting appropiate mounts in appropiate zones? |
| 20:47.06 | Xyphoid | it is, pretty much |
| 20:47.14 | zenzelezz | not in my experience |
| 20:47.18 | zenzelezz | put one down, run 15 seconds, repeat |
| 20:47.21 | Xyphoid | i have triangulated sometimes |
| 20:47.36 | zenzelezz | by the time triangulation would work, you're already in the green |
| 20:47.50 | Xyphoid | sometimes green takes a while if you just place and walk though |
| 20:48.03 | Xyphoid | you can improve by deliberately going off the line and triangulate |
| 20:48.44 | zenzelezz | you can, but it was never worth it in my experience so far |
| 20:48.57 | Xyphoid | yeah i wish your older markers stayed around |
| 20:50.10 | syrae | As best as I can tell, there's a Green and Yellow "zone" centered around the target fragment. Red will point to any part of the yellow zone. Yellow will point to any part of the green zone. Green will point to the artifact |
| 20:50.46 | syrae | Thus accuracy improves as you get closer, but sucks when you're far away since the yellow zone is so huge. |
| 20:51.22 | Xyphoid | the zone on the southeast of blasted lands was ridiculous heh |
| 20:51.25 | syrae | If you place the red survey several times in one location, you can get a better estimation of what direction to fly |
| 20:51.46 | Lunessa | syrae: It's a huge time sink. |
| 20:51.54 | syrae | but with a 5 sec cooldown, it sucks |
| 20:52.01 | syrae | Lunessa: why, yes! It is! |
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| 20:52.16 | syrae | Kinda like grinding for a Wintersaber.... |
| 20:52.22 | Lunessa | ... Ouchies. |
| 20:52.35 | syrae | To be fair, I'm working on that, too. |
| 20:52.35 | zenzelezz | wintersaber wasn't so bad |
| 20:52.42 | Kraps | its not that bad |
| 20:52.59 | syrae | I have a lot tolerance for repetition and ganking |
| 20:53.03 | Kraps | archaeology |
| 20:53.32 | syrae | Archaeology at least feels like I'm getting something non-repetitive done to some degree. |
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| 20:54.18 | Xyphoid | i think i'll save it for when i don't have so much new non-repetitive content to do |
| 20:56.47 | ZorbaBeta | nicoli, I tend to be doing other stuff. Not spending a lot of time on WoW UI mods anymore :) |
| 20:56.56 | Lunessa | I was blasting through to try for Realm First Blacksmith, but didn't make it. I'm slowing down now to do a more nuanced and richer experience of the new content. |
| 20:58.48 | syrae | I'm just excited that I'll have a lvl 2 guild by the time I log in tonight |
| 20:58.53 | syrae | XP bonus! woo! |
| 20:59.24 | nicoli_s | ahhh zorba speaks! |
| 20:59.33 | syrae | I'm still not clear if lvl 3 Mount Up! stacks with class talents like On a Pale Horse, though |
| 20:59.37 | nicoli_s | yeah i had thought you had quit wow stuff, and hadnt noticed you talking in a while |
| 20:59.48 | Thrae | Fisker, tekkub's Mounted? ...He might not have updated that yet. |
| 20:59.55 | Xyphoid | remember to get your adventurer's journal for that +10% xp too heh |
| 21:00.11 | Xyphoid | got that result twice so far |
| 21:01.45 | Fisker | k Thrae k |
| 21:01.46 | Thrae | Fisker, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11173-Mounted.html is not what I was thinking of but looks cool. |
| 21:03.24 | Thrae | Mounted looks like one of those mods that just exploded way beyond its original functionality. No offense to yssaril. |
| 21:06.13 | Thrae | Fisker, http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11467-MiniMount.html looks like it's much smaller. |
| 21:07.46 | Thrae | I'll probably start using MiniMount because I don't think I can fit my Druid Aquatic/Travel/Flight Form + Ground Mount macro into one macro anymore. |
| 21:08.47 | Thrae | Well I could but it wouldn't work as well. |
| 21:09.29 | zenzelezz | so I'm in Hyjal, fighting Twilight Vanquishers, while using my own Twilight Vanquisher title... I'm confused about which side I'm on |
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| 21:10.53 | TechDevout | I...but...guh?! |
| 21:14.07 | foxlit | You vanquish twilight; they vanquish in the name of twilight. |
| 21:14.11 | foxlit | What's not to get? :P |
| 21:14.47 | zenzelezz | the titles make no distinction |
| 21:15.36 | foxlit | wonders what's up with asterisks in Dolby's post. |
| 21:16.24 | dolby | they are there to confuse you! =D |
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| 21:26.04 | foxlit | dolby: you /almost/ got all of them. |
| 21:26.34 | dolby | i had to leave* some in |
| 21:27.11 | Nobgul | lua> 20*75 |
| 21:27.11 | lua_bot | Nobgul: 1500 |
| 21:27.20 | Nobgul | 0_o |
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| 21:33.08 | cogwheel | Lunessa: grounding totem has reached level 2 |
| 21:33.24 | Kraps | dammit cogwheel |
| 21:33.59 | Lunessa | WOOO! |
| 21:35.19 | Lunessa | You guys must be cranking the activity while I'm in the office. |
| 21:35.33 | Sixen | *crank* |
| 21:35.42 | cogwheel | hai Sixen |
| 21:35.47 | Sixen | hai mr.wheel =) |
| 21:36.32 | Kraps | the next perk is even better! :p |
| 21:37.04 | Sixen | Are you guys all in the same guild? |
| 21:37.54 | Kraps | cog, lunessa and me |
| 21:38.02 | Sixen | ah |
| 21:38.13 | cogwheel | among some other people here who at least have alts there |
| 21:38.56 | alestane | I should revisit soon, that's where I was planning on making my worgen priest. |
| 21:40.08 | Kraps | when does guild rep restart, tuesdays? |
| 21:40.58 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 21:41.19 | Lunessa | And... Sixen: We're always looking for more people. MOAR MINIONS! |
| 21:41.26 | foxlit | guild rep == meh. |
| 21:42.27 | Adys | Oh, interesting |
| 21:42.32 | Adys | we can get guild GUIDs now |
| 21:43.08 | Adys | !api guid |
| 21:43.08 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'guid': UnitGUID, GetPlayerInfoByGUID |
| 21:43.09 | Sixen | =) |
| 21:43.46 | Xyphoid | You have gained the maximum amount of guild reputation allowed this week. |
| 21:44.00 | Xyphoid | Also the ice stone has melted. |
| 21:45.02 | Kraps | foxlit: you can buy pretty cool stuff |
| 21:46.44 | Kraps | Xyphoid: ahhhhhhh its spamming |
| 21:46.59 | foxlit | Kraps: except you can't, because everything is capped |
| 21:47.34 | Kraps | foxlit: eventually? |
| 21:47.44 | foxlit | eventually :( |
| 21:48.01 | Adys | !api getplayerinfobyguid |
| 21:48.01 | lua_bot | GetPlayerInfoByGUID: Returns information about a player character identified by globally unique identifier (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetPlayerInfoByGUID) |
| 21:57.03 | Kraps | why no cloth rewards for the overseer in the clam /boggle |
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| 22:06.26 | Thrae | I think all the 80-85 heirlooms right now are locked away in the Guild Ranks of 10 and 20...which most won't reach anytime soon. |
| 22:06.39 | Thrae | (just the Helm + Cloak) |
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| 22:11.56 | Adys | Anyone else absolutely loving the fact that stormwind is so lively? |
| 22:12.39 | Adys | especially now that it looks so amazing |
| 22:13.01 | Kraps | wow this is weird http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1406721952?page=1#1 |
| 22:13.46 | Kraps | Adys: yes, but i'm on a mount |
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| 22:14.26 | Aurorus | Adys: any chance you could provide a screenshot for us who don't have WoW? :) |
| 22:14.42 | Adys | oO |
| 22:14.51 | zenzelezz | Adys: I agree |
| 22:14.58 | Adys | http://www.google.com/images?q=stormwind+in+cataclysm |
| 22:14.59 | Adys | :p |
| 22:15.08 | Aurorus | you're so helpful :P |
| 22:15.18 | Adys | you wanted screenshots you know :P |
| 22:15.28 | clever | font_string:SetFont("Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TTF", 11, "OUTLINE, MONOCHROME") |
| 22:15.29 | Aurorus | *your* screenshots :) |
| 22:15.37 | clever | which font should i use, so it doesnt look like complete crap? |
| 22:15.47 | Adys | zenzelezz: its mostly that i was afraid that ironforge would become crowded again, and sw stay empty |
| 22:15.49 | Adys | i hate IF |
| 22:16.26 | clever | Adys: most of the guild reward teleports go to SW, not IF |
| 22:16.38 | Adys | yeah but nobody has them yet :P |
| 22:16.40 | clever | and i believe all the new zone portals are SW only |
| 22:16.45 | Adys | oh, yeah |
| 22:16.52 | clever | everything it leaning towards SW |
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| 22:16.56 | Adys | well yeah |
| 22:17.02 | Adys | i love that, personally |
| 22:21.44 | Arrowmaster | where was the aliance AH before every city had one? |
| 22:21.49 | karl_w_w | i prefer sw as a city, but most of the story seems like it would have tied in with IF more |
| 22:22.09 | Arrowmaster | i thought SW was considered your main city in the past because thats where the dragon head buffs were cast |
| 22:23.13 | karl_w_w | i didnt play vanilla but i thought every1 used ironforge then |
| 22:24.07 | Arrowmaster | i thought they did too which is why i asked about the AH |
| 22:27.37 | Adys | Arrowmaster: At first, both SW and IF had an auction house |
| 22:27.42 | Adys | Arrowmaster: at release, only IF had one |
| 22:28.30 | Adys | also, how the hell did you forget that? |
| 22:28.39 | Arrowmaster | and at release people actually used the zone specific LFG channels, so i guess everybody just went to the city with the AH right |
| 22:28.46 | haste | Industrial: atm, yes |
| 22:28.50 | Arrowmaster | i dont play alliance |
| 22:29.08 | Arrowmaster | max level i ever got any alliance character was 10 |
| 22:31.37 | syrae | IF was the main city because that's where the AH was. People who wanted to avoid the lag in IF would set their HSs to SW. |
| 22:33.07 | syrae | once SW got an AH, people started to migrate more to SW, but IF was still more convenient in terms of travel since it was nearer to Menethil to be able to get to Ony and later AQ |
| 22:38.06 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
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| 22:40.18 | clever | syrae: ive heard about it being called lag forge because of that |
| 22:40.27 | syrae | mmhrm |
| 22:41.05 | karl_w_w | IF was closer to pretty much everything |
| 22:41.13 | syrae | back when people used to go into the AHes and Banks and near the sole mailbox anywhere near everything else and would AoE and do the Piccalo and lag people out |
| 22:41.23 | karl_w_w | on zg was closer to sw |
| 22:41.53 | karl_w_w | only* |
| 22:42.14 | Arrowmaster | see we at least had TWO mailboxes in Org |
| 22:42.37 | zenzelezz | some of these mob respawn rates are really annoying me... as prot spec I seem too slow to finish them and run away; so I have to kill like four mobs in the same spot before I can move on |
| 22:42.57 | clever | zenzelezz: i have the same problem on my DK |
| 22:43.07 | clever | i kill them, sit down to eat |
| 22:43.10 | clever | and 2 ticks later, another spawns and starts beating on me |
| 22:43.15 | zenzelezz | yup |
| 22:43.22 | foxlit | move, nub :) |
| 22:43.43 | clever | then one spawns on my ass and yells surprise butt rape! :P |
| 22:44.04 | foxlit | But honestly, I prefer things spawning on top of me to things not spawning at all |
| 22:44.06 | Mihau | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q69mcbgW8ik |
| 22:44.17 | alestane | I had that issue getting my worgen through the prison to Crowley in the beginning. |
| 22:44.25 | zenzelezz | foxlit: I'd just like somewhere in-between. I doesn't help others questing when the mobs spawn on me |
| 22:44.26 | clever | foxlit: yeah, helps with quests, no need to hunt them down |
| 22:44.27 | foxlit | The few places where they got the spawn rate wrong in the opposite direction were *way* more annoying |
| 22:44.49 | clever | took forever for me to find those helmets on the ground |
| 22:45.22 | alestane | Aso, I think at least some of these mobs may dynamically adjust their spawn rates according to their kill rates, so that people zerging through an area that just came out will remain relatively fast-paced. |
| 22:46.19 | foxlit | hugs his /target Foo /cleartarget [dead] /cast Moonfire macro |
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| 22:49.57 | Thrae | foxlit: What's the point of clearing the target? In case you're being attacked by multiple mobs? |
| 22:50.17 | foxlit | Thrae: Corpses of mobs all around you |
| 22:51.01 | Thrae | foxlit: /target doesn't accept parameters like [nodead]? |
| 22:51.14 | Thrae | (Or better yet, [alive]) |
| 22:51.16 | foxlit | Thrae: those would refer to your current target, not what you're targetting |
| 22:51.28 | foxlit | s/'re/'ll be/ |
| 22:51.32 | Thrae | Ah true. |
| 22:53.08 | Fisker | Thrae foxlit |
| 22:53.22 | Thrae | Bleh saying I require "ActivePerl" |
| 22:56.14 | Fisker | i agree with that Thrae |
| 22:56.25 | Fisker | my addons require FiskerLUA |
| 22:57.40 | Fisker | btw i lol'd |
| 22:57.51 | Fisker | as it stands right now i think we'll get guild bank slot 8 before 7 |
| 22:57.52 | Fisker | :3 |
| 22:58.46 | Thrae | XChat is saying I require "ActivePerl" when I already have Strawberry installed. |
| 22:59.17 | Thrae | Probably just need to set my PATH up correctly. |
| 22:59.27 | zenzelezz | [1. General] [...]: pay 200g for [Return to Alystra] |
| 22:59.31 | zenzelezz | questing is hrad! |
| 23:00.13 | Thrae | zenzelezz: If you're trying to make a Realm First. |
| 23:00.28 | zenzelezz | Thrae: on my realm he's two days late |
| 23:01.50 | Fisker | i paid 200g for getting into heroics |
| 23:02.49 | foxlit | Fiskerific! |
| 23:03.53 | Fisker | foxlit |
| 23:05.05 | zenzelezz | hah... "There was a time when adventurers would collect these cores in order to craft mediocre fire-resistant equipment." |
| 23:05.32 | Industrial | haste: atm? how so |
| 23:05.53 | haste | leveling makes me want to create corpses Industrial |
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| 23:08.28 | Fisker | cool haste |
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| 23:09.39 | Fisker | haste |
| 23:09.46 | Fisker | wanna sandy bridge with me? |
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| 23:18.11 | Fisker | haste |
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| 23:23.05 | Jamash | I think blizzard should put portals from each capital to each other capital |
| 23:24.02 | Jamash | because waiting for public transportation is boring enough in real life without having to do it in a video game |
| 23:24.20 | Seerah | you don't have to wait for the transportation |
| 23:24.30 | Jamash | if you're not a mage you do |
| 23:24.50 | Seerah | you have to take time for the trip - between starting and ending points - same as you would for private transportation :p |
| 23:25.04 | Seerah | I am a mage. But I also don't complain about it on my many alts ;) |
| 23:25.09 | Jamash | I'm not sure what point you're trying to make |
| 23:25.16 | Seerah | because I remember how it *used* to be |
| 23:26.05 | Jamash | I get to the zep tower / boat pier just as the zep/boat leaves. I then get to enjoy waiting four minutes for it to come back. |
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| 23:26.23 | Seerah | ah, yes. Zeppelins you do have to wait for |
| 23:26.28 | Seerah | and boats |
| 23:26.30 | Jamash | and boats, and the deeprun tram |
| 23:26.36 | Seerah | flights, not so much :) |
| 23:26.44 | Jamash | the only instant transportation is between silvermoon and UC |
| 23:27.02 | Seerah | but I'm still brain dead from work, so... that'll be my excuse for forgetting :) |
| 23:27.09 | Jamash | and nobody ever goes to silvermoon, so that doesn't make much difference |
| 23:27.42 | Adys | Shirik, shoot me |
| 23:27.46 | Adys | I need your help with java |
| 23:27.55 | foxlit | System.exit(0); |
| 23:27.58 | Mihau | XD |
| 23:28.31 | Adys | don't get excited, I'm just trying to run codeswarm |
| 23:28.32 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/285020/ |
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| 23:35.18 | Thrae | Adys: I'd help, but that's one of the 121 different languages I only know how to crash/hang the computer. |
| 23:37.09 | Thrae | Adys: What's in the sample.config file? |
| 23:37.16 | Thrae | ...I'll just grab it myself. |
| 23:37.32 | Fisker | a new age has begun Thrae |
| 23:37.37 | Fisker | AN AGE OF FREEDOM |
| 23:37.38 | Adys | Thrae: http://dpaste.com/285022/ |
| 23:38.23 | Adys | note: Click-to-enable-plugin in chrome is awesome |
| 23:39.05 | Thrae | Yeah the way Chrome handles extensions and plugins is awesome. |
| 23:40.50 | Thrae | Adys: Silly question, did you download the version of Java it supports? |
| 23:41.26 | Adys | mmh I'm running on ubuntu's openjdk-6-jre-headless |
| 23:42.30 | Adys | Thrae: apparently i also had sun-java6-jre |
| 23:42.49 | Thrae | Adys: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun-headless or whatever the binary is called? |
| 23:43.17 | Adys | update-java-alternatives: directory does not exist: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-headless |
| 23:43.21 | Adys | er |
| 23:43.21 | Adys | sec |
| 23:43.49 | Adys | Thrae: http://dpaste.com/285024/ |
| 23:44.00 | Thrae | Although considering it's already using "java.awt.HeadlessException" that's probably not it. |
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| 23:44.36 | Adys | i just removed sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre |
| 23:44.48 | Adys | apparently im supposed to get it to run under openjdk or something |
| 23:45.35 | Thrae | Hmm the README just talks about sun-java-jdk, not openjdk. |
| 23:45.36 | amro | openjdk is pretty bad |
| 23:45.44 | amro | remove openjdk, install sun-java6 |
| 23:45.45 | Adys | l2pong amro |
| 23:45.57 | amro | I'll pong when you ping |
| 23:46.05 | Adys | i did ping you jerk |
| 23:46.26 | amro | where? |
| 23:46.30 | Adys | gtalk |
| 23:46.40 | amro | I see no ping |
| 23:46.58 | Arrowmaster | amro: ive never had any problems with openjdk |
| 23:47.17 | Adys | you run debian |
| 23:47.21 | amro | I've had plenty |
| 23:47.24 | Adys | you don't even count like you've no idea. |
| 23:47.35 | amro | removed it and installed sun java |
| 23:47.37 | amro | maybe they've fixed it since |
| 23:47.38 | Thrae | Adys: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/java#changer_la_version_de_java_utilisee_par_defaut |
| 23:48.02 | Adys | Thrae, I know I'm french, but you really don't have to insult me |
| 23:48.13 | Adys | also amro fixed it for me |
| 23:48.16 | Thrae | Adys: ...that was from the link in the README file. |
| 23:48.17 | Kraps | ruin of vashjir aer amazing |
| 23:48.22 | Adys | installed sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk and it works now |
| 23:48.28 | Adys | Thrae: I'm messing with you, man |
| 23:48.39 | Thrae | There's no ubuntu-en.org or ubuntu-us.org domain. |
| 23:49.24 | Adys | ok now to figure out how to make it run on wine.git |
| 23:49.46 | Thrae | Yeah openjdk is just the very very free version. Which is good if you want to stick it to Oracle. |
| 23:50.26 | Thrae | Illumos ftw! ...maybe in 2011 |
| 23:50.59 | Arrowmaster | even better way to stick it to oracle, dont use java |
| 23:51.28 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: I only do it because I like CrashPlan. |
| 23:52.42 | Jerub | sigh |
| 23:52.50 | Jerub | our guild is too small to field a heroic wotlk team :/ |
| 23:54.25 | Arrowmaster | i only have 3 things that need java, an updater program for anidb.net, minecraft, and openoffice which i never use anyway |
| 23:58.46 | ckknight | down with Java, boo |
| 23:58.58 | ckknight | :P |
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