| 00:00.01 | bleeter | fisker has crabs |
| 00:00.39 | KarlKFI|work | Yssaril: "Shipping Soon " |
| 00:00.51 | msoul | I wonder who'll be the first one to tam the hunter pet |
| 00:00.56 | msoul | ghostcrawler |
| 00:01.13 | msoul | now that > 85 :P |
| 00:01.49 | Yssaril | KarlKFI|work: what does it say for delivery estimate? mine sais dec 9th for one day shipping |
| 00:01.56 | olafski | hm we just got some guild XP and the cap went up with it oO |
| 00:01.56 | Napoleone | lol |
| 00:02.00 | msoul | ouch |
| 00:02.07 | Napoleone | olaf went up?` |
| 00:02.14 | Napoleone | so the cap isnt working lol? |
| 00:02.18 | msoul | Yssaril: you didn't like lifting your butt and go to the nearest retail store? :P |
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| 00:03.19 | Napoleone | 1 hour now |
| 00:03.33 | Jerub | olafski: there's two things. a cap on guild xp per day from certain activities. |
| 00:03.33 | TMc51_ | Mine says December 7th, I ordered this morning, and payed for 3-day shipping. |
| 00:03.36 | nevcairiel | Napoleone: the cap ignores xp from achievements |
| 00:03.44 | Jerub | olafski: but guild achievements aren't counted towards that cap, so it'll move the cap if you get an achievement |
| 00:03.45 | Napoleone | sweet |
| 00:03.58 | Jerub | it's like quests vs. rested xp |
| 00:04.25 | Napoleone | lol people with legendaries will be in wanted position ;P |
| 00:05.10 | olafski | 3 people are lvl 81 on my realm :P |
| 00:05.13 | Legorol | and i'm in!!! |
| 00:05.18 | Napoleone | OMG stop |
| 00:05.21 | olafski | ahh ok jerub :) |
| 00:05.39 | Napoleone | how much xp is the achievements? |
| 00:05.46 | KarlKFI|work | Yssaril: "Shipping Speed: Release-Date Delivery " "Delivery Estimate: December 7, 2010" |
| 00:06.19 | Napoleone | ok did you guys just wait at the success? |
| 00:06.25 | KarlKFI|work | I preordered it |
| 00:06.45 | nevcairiel | Napoleone: yea |
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| 00:06.59 | Arrowmaster | last month i preordered a game from amazon 2 days before it came out and got it on release day |
| 00:07.24 | Napoleone | dc'ed again |
| 00:08.53 | TC-Work | i order things from newegg and get them before i get a payment charged and order shipped emails |
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| 00:10.56 | Lulia | nevcairiel: I'm at a complete loss. Clearly something between the differences of how we approach the unlock allows for yours to work with a scrollwheel and mine not to, but I'm unsure of what it might be, which makes me doubt that it's a Blizzard error :( |
| 00:11.05 | Napoleone | WHOOT logging in |
| 00:11.23 | inthedrops | how are EU login servers holding up |
| 00:11.28 | Amarande | hmm, that makes me think. is it possible for *one* person to get all the legendaries that are needed for the guild achievement? |
| 00:11.30 | TC-Work | they arent |
| 00:11.39 | Amarande | (and then probably end up being hired by all the guilds out there to pick up the guild cheeve?) |
| 00:11.40 | Lulia | Which makes me sad because I can't find it, and I don't want to release an AddOn when people are most definitely going to try and use it in a way which I can't get it to work |
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| 00:12.02 | Amarande | I'm guessing you'd have to be a Warrior. |
| 00:12.21 | inthedrops | Fortunately my guild has them all across a few people. I have thunderfury and eye. We get a mount right? |
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| 00:18.44 | dardack | anyone know if at 3:00 AM EST (12:00pst) will I have to relog? if not How can i tell I can turn in quests without loosing that xp/time? |
| 00:19.04 | Lulia | I figured out what it was! But created a new problem instead >.> |
| 00:19.05 | batrick | http://i.imgur.com/XNCiU.jpg |
| 00:19.23 | Lulia | And now I fixed the new problem. |
| 00:19.26 | Lulia | is a genius. |
| 00:19.29 | Jerub | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1207761837?page=50#982 |
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| 00:20.09 | dardack | that is hilarious jerub |
| 00:20.11 | Lulia | The weird thing is that my solution makes no sense, at least not in comparison to the differences between my code and nevcairiel's code |
| 00:20.52 | dardack | so no one knows? |
| 00:22.13 | Lulia | ...and no one cares! But I'm happy :) |
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| 00:22.54 | Kraps | that upbeat french song that plays in the cars in The Saboteur is stuck in my head. That means 2 things: the game is really long; theres a ton of driving |
| 00:23.40 | Lulia | Nobgul! |
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| 00:24.54 | Kraps | haha this is pro http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2100-Cataclysm-is-going-live-THIS-WEEK! |
| 00:25.03 | dardack | well guess i'll go to bed and i'll see how it works |
| 00:28.02 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/140525/experience-gains-1-85 |
| 00:28.42 | Kraps | oh wow |
| 00:29.31 | Kraps | they _really_ dont like people getting xp from previous content |
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| 00:31.22 | cruciform | so u cant hoard 25 quests from northrend to turn in? |
| 00:31.52 | Kraps | yup |
| 00:31.57 | Lulia | Yes you can |
| 00:32.11 | Kraps | its really a waste of time |
| 00:32.13 | Lulia | That change is just for killing creatures |
| 00:32.21 | Lulia | It's not a nerf to have loaded up 25 dailies before launch |
| 00:32.25 | Lulia | And turn them in at release |
| 00:32.32 | cruciform | ok cool |
| 00:32.32 | Lulia | That has nothing to do with killing creatures |
| 00:32.39 | Kraps | its a waste of time anyway |
| 00:32.42 | Lulia | That's just free xp from quests |
| 00:32.46 | cruciform | i already did it |
| 00:32.50 | Lulia | It's free, Kraps, since you did it before launch |
| 00:32.56 | Lulia | It's a waste of time after launch, yes |
| 00:32.59 | Yssaril | KarlKFI|work: ic (didn't have the release day option when i preordered it in august) |
| 00:33.00 | Lulia | But before launch? Why not |
| 00:33.16 | KarlKFI|work | in the US? |
| 00:33.17 | Kraps | you still have to turn them in |
| 00:33.22 | cruciform | so? |
| 00:33.27 | Lulia | Yes, and that will take almost no time |
| 00:33.33 | Kraps | for a minuscule amount of xp |
| 00:33.44 | Lulia | The 10% gain from killing mobs in new zones is not enough to make up for what I'll get from the dailies |
| 00:33.45 | cruciform | turn in 25 quests and get 35% into lvl80, which takes maybe 10-15mins |
| 00:33.48 | Yssaril | msoul: have school anyways so no gonna lose sleep over losing out on the login wait fest |
| 00:33.50 | cruciform | hearth to stormwind/org |
| 00:33.54 | cruciform | and head out |
| 00:34.00 | Kraps | 35% |
| 00:34.00 | Yssaril | KarlKFI|work: yea US |
| 00:34.02 | Kraps | ? |
| 00:34.32 | Lulia | Even if it was only 10% of the level, I doubt you'd get 10% of a level in that amount of time just from grinding creatures in the Cata zones |
| 00:34.42 | Lulia | Even if it was only 5% of a level, same deal |
| 00:35.11 | Lulia | But it's likely to be higher than 10% of a level |
| 00:35.11 | Kraps | do quests, no need to grind |
| 00:35.29 | Lulia | Can maybe do a couple of quests in that amount of time, I'm sort of doubting they'll equate to more than what I'll get for 25 dailies in less than 10 mins of turn-ins |
| 00:36.10 | Lulia | I'll even time myself when I do it, and report to you how long it took me to do the turn-ins |
| 00:36.11 | Lulia | :P |
| 00:36.22 | Lulia | Then I'll time how long it takes me to quest and kill that much in the new content |
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| 00:40.02 | syrae | http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4223/wowscrnshot120610235954.jpg |
| 00:40.24 | syrae | Soo.... I'm definitely seeing no real need to go do a midnight logon tonight |
| 00:40.38 | Lulia | looool |
| 00:41.24 | Kraps | syrae: whats there? |
| 00:41.28 | cruciform | wow |
| 00:41.32 | syrae | I have no idea |
| 00:41.43 | inthedrops | rofl |
| 00:41.48 | syrae | I just linked the SS from someone else |
| 00:41.54 | KarlKFI|work | prolly worgin start area? |
| 00:42.06 | Kraps | looks like flight trainer maby |
| 00:42.09 | ajmitch | everyone queueing up for the flight master in orgrimmar |
| 00:42.10 | KarlKFI|work | oh |
| 00:42.13 | KarlKFI|work | orgrimar |
| 00:42.19 | ajmitch | should have logged out in IF |
| 00:42.30 | syrae | Obviously it's somewhere in Org, but I donno the city too well |
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| 00:42.34 | Kraps | everyone learning old world fying |
| 00:42.42 | Kraps | flying* |
| 00:42.49 | syrae | oohh... |
| 00:42.56 | syrae | that actually is probably it |
| 00:43.00 | ajmitch | it is it |
| 00:43.28 | ajmitch | people have been parking their characters by the flight master before logging out |
| 00:44.37 | Amarande | can you get the flight license in TB, Silvermoon, or UC or is it only in Org? |
| 00:45.10 | A-KO | only Org |
| 00:45.21 | Amarande | (And for Alliance, can you get it in Ironforge or Darnassus or do I have to go to stinking SW ...) |
| 00:45.38 | Amarande | They really want to emphasize Org and SW over the other capitals don't they. :| |
| 00:46.02 | Kraps | you're Alliance and you're dissing SW /boggle |
| 00:46.11 | Yssaril | Amarande: at least there are 2 locations instead of one really small one :) |
| 00:46.16 | A-KO | for ally it's SW |
| 00:51.40 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2101-Cataclysm-is-now-live-in-Europe |
| 00:52.54 | Yssaril | Kraps: are quest givers THAT crowded? |
| 00:53.42 | Kraps | from the mmoc channel: [07:52:47]<Timur>the questgivers in hyjal are buried under a mountain of drakes |
| 00:53.59 | Yssaril | Kraps: ahhh ouch |
| 00:54.00 | Lulia | Nobgul! |
| 00:56.34 | Legorol | Amarande: you can get the flight licence from any flying trainer, meaning northrend/outland trainers |
| 00:56.38 | Jerub | http://i.imgur.com/2YjPQ.jpg |
| 00:56.39 | Legorol | and the dorf in sw |
| 00:58.33 | Jerub | giggle. that SS reminds me of a raid i was in once. icc25 nearly a year ago. the raid was very well behaved and they did positioning really well. |
| 00:58.45 | Kraps | is leveling gonna be painful for clothies? |
| 00:58.57 | Yssaril | Kraps: naw |
| 00:59.02 | Jerub | so when the RL says, "everyone who wants a pot line up" they formed an orderly queue in a straight line from the raid leader. |
| 00:59.19 | Jerub | and everyone shuffled forward when the next person was served. |
| 00:59.28 | syrae | HAHA |
| 00:59.34 | syrae | Jerub: that's amazing |
| 00:59.39 | Jerub | syrae: i know hey. |
| 00:59.53 | Yssaril | Jerub: SS or it didnt happen :P |
| 01:00.01 | Jerub | i think i may have one somewhere |
| 01:00.18 | Jerub | it was cool seeing 20+ raiders queuing up. |
| 01:00.39 | Yssaril | yea but getting them to do it in the first place is the hard part /sigh |
| 01:00.57 | Jerub | the RL was one of those ultra-controling guys who told everyone exactly where to stand in any fight that requires positioning, but his raid really responded well to him. |
| 01:02.02 | Jerub | i remember him doing drills. he'd put markers on two guys and say "stack on triangle" "stack on square" to drill the raid. |
| 01:02.59 | Jerub | too bad he realm transferred. he still thought i was a girl and had a crush on me. |
| 01:03.18 | syrae | pfft haahahaha |
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| 01:07.28 | Kraps | Lunessa: ohai |
| 01:08.25 | Lunessa | ohai |
| 01:09.21 | Kraps | i'm not being up at 3 am to help with guild leveling |
| 01:09.27 | Kraps | you cant make me |
| 01:10.15 | Legorol | My guild already has 12 million guild XP.. what did we earn that for? |
| 01:10.49 | Legorol | We only earned 62k oday, and only 2% exhausted the daily cap, which in itself is 6.2 mil |
| 01:10.56 | Legorol | So where did all that guild XP come from/ |
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| 01:11.56 | Kraps | hax |
| 01:12.14 | Lunessa | Kraps: /bonk |
| 01:12.15 | syrae | Legorol: guild achieves give guild XP |
| 01:12.58 | Yssaril | Lunessa: i won't ave cata till sometime tomorrow so no help from me either |
| 01:13.20 | Lunessa | No worries. I'll be around all day tomorrow. :) Took the day off. |
| 01:14.05 | syrae | I have an interview tomorrow... So once I'm done with interview, it's all Cata |
| 01:17.11 | bleeter | great, FAIL BLIZZARD |
| 01:17.44 | bleeter | my Australian account redirects to South East Asia battle.net, however SEA servers not set up to accept Cataclysm upgrade token sold in Australia |
| 01:17.56 | bleeter | have to manually force the browser to US.battle.net |
| 01:19.12 | Lunessa | MOAR COFFEE |
| 01:20.39 | bleeter | furtther FAIL BLIZZARD |
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| 01:20.47 | Jerub | bleeter: that happens to me too |
| 01:20.49 | bleeter | updaters shouldn't be allowed to run when the game binary is active |
| 01:21.01 | bleeter | just saying it's prolly not cool, is all... ;) |
| 01:21.07 | Jerub | but also, i'm on an ip range that was only allocated to APNIC last year, so lots of geoip stuff that's not been updated think i'm in the UK |
| 01:21.23 | bleeter | Jerub: heh, I'm in Tassie and buckets of GeoIP has me in Melbourne |
| 01:23.53 | Amarande | bleeter: LOTRO apparently does that |
| 01:24.16 | Amarande | actually, LOTRO seems to have had many of the good features of WoW long before WoW got them |
| 01:24.32 | Amarande | like quest assistance markers on the map, and phasing, and, and ... |
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| 01:26.08 | Amarande | and they've mostly avoided level overinflation, too, max is still 65 |
| 01:26.12 | syrae | Amarande: part of that is because there was a big group of EQ players/designers working on WoW |
| 01:26.14 | Amarande | at least I think it's still 65. |
| 01:26.29 | Amarande | syrae: I'm surprised WoW's soloable at all then. :) |
| 01:26.50 | Amarande | aren't EQ mobs pretty much *all* balanced about how an Elite of their level would be in WoW? |
| 01:27.20 | syrae | Amarande: me, too. Though it's definitely gone to a more casual, solo slant since BC |
| 01:27.39 | Amarande | from what I've heard of EQ, you pretty much have to xp on mobs that are going almost gray if you want to level solo |
| 01:28.00 | syrae | regardless, I finished my coding project for the day, so i'm skipping out. Ta! |
| 01:28.06 | Amarande | FFXI's the same way, too, unless you're a BST or a SMN, apparently those are able to solo content at level |
| 01:28.08 | Jerub | bleeter: tbh, i shoudl appear as sydney now, because i'm on an internode ipv6 pop |
| 01:28.23 | Amarande | (Does Square even still run FFXI now, or did they close it down when FFXIV came out?) |
| 01:31.56 | mascondante | Sylvanaar, do you plan to continue FuBar or is it pretty much done? |
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| 01:36.50 | Arrowmaster | mascondante: its dead |
| 01:37.29 | nebula169 | burn it with fire! |
| 01:37.41 | Dagmar | Ahah |
| 01:38.00 | Dagmar | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2102-Experience-Gains-1-85 |
| 01:38.07 | mascondante | Anything out there that supports FuBar that's current? |
| 01:38.09 | Dagmar | I *thought* there was something up when I was trying to level my freakin' pet |
| 01:38.45 | Amarande | I haven't even used FuBar since BC now |
| 01:38.52 | Amarande | been using Data Broker since LK |
| 01:39.11 | Dagmar | Replaced it twice-over here |
| 01:39.22 | Amarande | I think Data Broker has pretty much become the standard |
| 01:39.33 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 01:39.43 | mascondante | Any display that looks close to fubar? |
| 01:39.51 | Arrowmaster | yes, multiple ones |
| 01:40.10 | mascondante | ok because I really like the slim top and bottom bars |
| 01:40.22 | Dagmar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info11831-DockingStationDisplay.html |
| 01:40.48 | nebula169 | chocolatebar and bazooka are also very similar |
| 01:41.28 | mascondante | yum... sexy |
| 01:41.48 | mascondante | nebula169: I'll look at those as well |
| 01:43.22 | olafski | hm I'm not really getting archaeology skillups anymore.. should I go somewhere else or is this normal? :P |
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| 01:47.22 | Legorol | It's so nice to start before US for once :P |
| 01:50.42 | cruciform | we're busy with wikileaks |
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| 02:00.39 | Kraps | i'd rather have cata |
| 02:00.57 | bluspacecow | <--- has a cata |
| 02:01.02 | bluspacecow | box. |
| 02:01.13 | bluspacecow | ~trout Fisker |
| 02:01.13 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout! |
| 02:02.47 | Kraps | grrr the shattering isnt in paperback yet |
| 02:03.02 | mascondante | ~troutslap bluspacecow |
| 02:03.02 | purl | ACTION slaps bluspacecow around with a large trout |
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| 02:08.57 | Kraps | guess i'll just read the digital edition |
| 02:10.03 | mascondante | ~Who is Mascondante? |
| 02:10.03 | purl | you are probably my lord and savior Sir |
| 02:12.51 | Kraps | is it important to read stormrage before the shattering? |
| 02:14.30 | Primer | Anyone know the amount of XP to get from 80 to 81? |
| 02:15.14 | nevcairiel | 1.68, |
| 02:15.20 | nevcairiel | s/,/m/ |
| 02:16.02 | mascondante | mutters |
| 02:16.04 | Primer | so, friend has 25 Icecrown quests, all yellow, all done, ready to turn in |
| 02:16.07 | mascondante | not even a giggle? |
| 02:16.15 | Primer | What do you think the average amount of XP will be for them? |
| 02:16.33 | Primer | 30k? |
| 02:18.14 | Dagmar | Your friend will be very angry |
| 02:18.29 | Primer | do tell |
| 02:18.40 | Dagmar | Once your'e at max level for a region, apparently XP gain will be nerfed by 90% |
| 02:18.52 | kd3 | only from mobs |
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| 02:19.09 | kd3 | they amended the post to mention that quest xp is unaffected |
| 02:19.15 | Dagmar | Hmm... |
| 02:19.27 | Dagmar | A shame they couldn't have sorted that for pets |
| 02:19.48 | Dagmar | Ah well, at least my pets will be able to catch up now |
| 02:21.28 | nevcairiel | Primer: the default daily gives around 22k xp |
| 02:21.28 | Dagmar | Gonna have to go look up where to get into Hyjal at and park a toon there in another hour or so |
| 02:21.31 | Primer | "Also, an useful reminder." WTF? "an useful"? |
| 02:22.07 | Kraps | bibi is french |
| 02:22.20 | Kraps | he gets an allowance for that :p |
| 02:22.21 | Dagmar | He's just following what they taught him in class |
| 02:22.32 | Kraps | yeah the vowel |
| 02:22.40 | kd3 | dagmar; stormwind or orgrimmar |
| 02:22.47 | Dagmar | kd3: Seriously? It's a teleport gig? |
| 02:22.49 | Kraps | the english language sucks |
| 02:22.50 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:22.51 | Primer | Friend (who wants server-first BS) is also saying that some BS patterns require level 84. Anyone confirm this? |
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| 02:25.57 | Primer | Anyone using Astrolabe? I got a PM on wowace from Esamynn about it...looked for info regarding it on the wiki, but couldn't find anything regarding the Cata code |
| 02:26.33 | Primer | local Astrolabe = DongleStub("Astrolabe-0.4") <-- guessing that has to change? |
| 02:26.44 | Jerub | okay, so instead of delivering cata today, the place i ordered it from is /shipping/ it today |
| 02:27.01 | Jerub | which means the courier doesn't even have it at their depot yet, and it won't arrive till tomorrow |
| 02:27.12 | Primer | ask them if they'll send you the key |
| 02:27.24 | Primer | then do the digital download...there's some hack for it |
| 02:27.34 | Primer | where you can get the files, then plug your key into battle.net |
| 02:27.39 | Primer | voilà |
| 02:28.30 | Dagmar | The key is inside the box. |
| 02:28.34 | Jerub | yeah. |
| 02:28.35 | Jerub | ^this |
| 02:28.41 | Dagmar | I would never be buying from that place again. |
| 02:28.45 | Primer | meh...that's how I did WotLK |
| 02:28.50 | Primer | they didn't have digital |
| 02:28.56 | Primer | but were willing to email the key |
| 02:29.13 | Primer | since they couldn't ship til release |
| 02:29.22 | Shirik | So um |
| 02:29.25 | Shirik | Amazon shipped my Cataclysm |
| 02:29.41 | Primer | they == blizzard |
| 02:29.41 | Shirik | Does someone want to explain why the hell they waited until the last minute and then shipped it overnight? |
| 02:29.49 | Primer | at least that's how I remember it going down... |
| 02:29.55 | Dagmar | Shirik: They weren't allowed to ship it early? |
| 02:29.55 | Shirik | Instead of shipping it like on thursday via ground? |
| 02:30.07 | Shirik | Dagmar: Seems like it must have cost them a fortune |
| 02:30.07 | Primer | Shirik: see above |
| 02:30.13 | Shirik | they charged me $0.99 for shipping |
| 02:30.15 | Dagmar | Primer: Blizzard would know it. Other places would not be likely to |
| 02:30.23 | Xyphoid_ | another advertisement for digital distribution, huh |
| 02:30.26 | Primer | Dagmar: would know what? |
| 02:30.32 | Dagmar | They'd know what key they sold you |
| 02:30.39 | Primer | Dagmar: obviously they opened the box, then shipped it |
| 02:30.46 | Primer | basically the place was selling keys...duh |
| 02:30.46 | Jerub | writes a negative review. |
| 02:30.48 | Dagmar | You're not a real bright guy, are you |
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| 02:31.03 | Jerub | Dagmar: this is dick smith, which is like an australian equivilent of radio shack. |
| 02:31.12 | Dagmar | Jerub: Ouch |
| 02:31.22 | Primer | Dagmar: no need to insult people. What's more obvious is that you're not understanding what I'm writing |
| 02:31.27 | Dagmar | I'm glad I went with digital |
| 02:31.44 | Jerub | yeah, my own copy is digital |
| 02:31.45 | Jerub | this is my wife's |
| 02:31.46 | Dagmar | Primer: No, it's pretty clear you think it's common for retailers to open boxes and copy down serial numbers. |
| 02:31.55 | Primer | it...is... |
| 02:32.04 | Primer | since that's what a ton of people did for WotLK |
| 02:32.39 | Primer | once the number is associated with an account, it's done |
| 02:32.42 | Dagmar | You don't suppose perhaps Blizz just scanned the barcodes on the inventory boxes and already know what serials would be inside? |
| 02:32.46 | Primer | no one can "steal" it |
| 02:32.56 | Primer | Eh? |
| 02:33.00 | Dagmar | Nevermind |
| 02:33.01 | Primer | Why does that matter? |
| 02:33.24 | Primer | retailer opens box, sells it to me once my CC validates, emails me the serial, and mails me the box |
| 02:33.30 | Primer | What's so hard to understand about that? |
| 02:33.44 | Primer | if they fuck me, I call my credit card company and void the transaction |
| 02:33.45 | Dagmar | Reality disagrees with you. |
| 02:33.46 | Primer | pretty simple |
| 02:33.57 | Primer | How so? I did this |
| 02:34.09 | Primer | tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of people, did this |
| 02:35.19 | Primer | I didn't want to go to a store at 12AM, stand in line, then risk not getting a box |
| 02:35.31 | Primer | which was going to rot in my closet anyhow |
| 02:36.04 | Kraps | the little aside things that Golden puts in her books help make them awesome |
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| 02:36.52 | Primer | Is Dagmar trolling me? I don't get it... |
| 02:36.54 | Fisker | omg i just got it |
| 02:37.00 | Fisker | barongeddon |
| 02:37.00 | Primer | If so, touché, you got me |
| 02:37.01 | Amarande | Dagmar: there will always be unscrupulous retailers |
| 02:37.12 | Amarande | ever since trade was invented, there's always been those who try to scam people |
| 02:37.14 | Shirik | Fisker? |
| 02:37.30 | Primer | Amarande: except they didn't scam me |
| 02:37.42 | Primer | all they did was provide me a service that I desired |
| 02:37.46 | Jerub | hah, it'l take 72 hours for a review to appear |
| 02:38.15 | Primer | and plenty of other people desired too...seems like good commerce to me...they took more of a risk than I did |
| 02:38.26 | Kraps | Jerub: where? |
| 02:38.47 | Jerub | Kraps: um, dicksmith.com.au - where i preordered my cata copy from |
| 02:39.02 | Primer | that just sounds wrong...dicksmith |
| 02:39.15 | Primer | great name for a whorehouse |
| 02:39.17 | ajmitch | Primer: but it's famous! |
| 02:39.42 | Primer | ajmitch: heh, maybe in .au...I've never heard of it |
| 02:39.47 | ajmitch | though the domain is dse.co.nz in NZ |
| 02:39.48 | Amarande | Primer: there's apparently a store that sells pens called "Pen Island" |
| 02:39.49 | Primer | not being from .au and all |
| 02:39.55 | Primer | Amarande: indeed! |
| 02:39.57 | Amarande | and nobody realized the potential drawbacks of that name until they got a web presence |
| 02:40.05 | Primer | yup, classic meme |
| 02:40.13 | Primer | knows the internets |
| 02:40.43 | Amarande | I still find it interesting how they did a total about face on escort quest design with 4.0.3a |
| 02:40.56 | Amarande | except in Northrend and Outland, escort quests are not only not pure hate now, but actually are pure <3 |
| 02:41.23 | Amarande | it is actually even to your BENEFIT to be on an escort quest as often as possible pretty much |
| 02:42.49 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 02:42.52 | Fisker | didn't you get it? |
| 02:42.58 | Fisker | baron geddon = armageddon |
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| 02:44.20 | Kraps | "But Saurfang was an orc, not a blood elf, and lavish compliments and effusion would not be welcomed or wanted." |
| 02:44.26 | Kraps | BURRRRRRRRRN |
| 02:44.34 | Amarande | Fisker, did they ever fix that bug someone mentioned btw, where people would DC when trying to fight Geddon? |
| 02:44.47 | Amarande | apparently, it came in with 4.0.1 and I'm not sure if it was fixed yet |
| 02:45.50 | Amarande | and was SM Cath debugged yet? |
| 02:45.56 | Xyphoid_ | Kraps: is this writing from the wow novel, rofl |
| 02:46.07 | Kraps | Xyphoid_: yeah :) |
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| 02:48.51 | Shirik | no Fisker |
| 02:50.52 | bleeter | hey neat, all the Nighthaven guards are still level 65 |
| 02:51.04 | bleeter | hadn't noticed that |
| 02:51.45 | Amarande | anyone do SM Cath since the latest hotfixes? |
| 02:51.57 | Amarande | I'm wondering if they fixed wiping on Mograine |
| 02:52.32 | bleeter | i had a funny one the other day in heathglen, was mounted on NPC horse when I accepted quest to duel a mob. |
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| 02:52.42 | bleeter | the entire mob group attacked me, instead of just one. |
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| 02:54.48 | Amarande | Oops. |
| 02:55.14 | Amarande | The bug with SM Cath was apparently Mograine not resetting properly after a wipe |
| 02:55.34 | Amarande | and I'm still not sure if *I* bugged it up, perhaps |
| 02:55.52 | Amarande | I was a mage, and still at considerable range when Mograine was pulled early, since I was not expecting such a pull to be done yet. |
| 02:56.09 | Amarande | Thus, with the distance I already had, plus the extra from Blink, I got out of the instance without dying ... |
| 02:56.25 | Amarande | I'm having to wonder if Mograine didn't reset because the server saw someone alive still :| |
| 02:56.39 | Amarande | (Which makes me wonder if hunters feigning or the like will bug it too) |
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| 02:58.45 | Fisker | yes Shirik |
| 03:00.05 | Amarande | after I had that happen, I pretty much avoided doing any more randoms until SM Cath went green and was no longer eligible |
| 03:00.18 | Amarande | and really didn't do very many 1-60 randoms as it was |
| 03:00.51 | Amarande | after 40 or so, it was mostly I specifically queued for Scholomance, Stratholme Scarlet side, and Stratholme Undead side (the latter twice, because the banshee essence quest is teh fail) |
| 03:01.37 | Amarande | That's another thing I think I've recalled noting about LOTRO that I like better than WoW, too |
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| 03:01.48 | Amarande | in LOTRO, you rarely actually have to loot an actual *quest item* |
| 03:02.01 | Lunessa | holy fucking hell. Someone who has spent an ENTIRE semester taking Instructional Technology, Computers in the Classroom couldn't figure out how to upload a file on a page with a clearly marked UPLOAD button. They're going to be teaching students... I fear for the future. |
| 03:02.20 | Amarande | multiple people can often loot the same quest node without waiting for a respawn, and when you click to loot the quest object, it just gives a quest credit without, to my recollection, an actual item going into inventory |
| 03:02.52 | Xyphoid_ | i'm just going to savor 'I think I've recalled noting' |
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| 03:03.46 | Pirate952 | would casting the worgen spell Two Forms use the spell_aura_applied or spell_cast_success event? |
| 03:05.43 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 03:06.16 | sylvanaar | mascondante: someone wants to maintain it - but I dont have the time |
| 03:06.25 | bluspacecow | not sure pirate |
| 03:06.34 | bluspacecow | try the /eventtrace command |
| 03:06.38 | bluspacecow | then make it pause |
| 03:06.50 | |Jelly| | yawns. |
| 03:06.52 | bluspacecow | and scroll back to the date stamp of when you used the ability |
| 03:07.10 | Fisker | bluspacecow |
| 03:07.13 | Fisker | you are a terrible person |
| 03:07.15 | bluspacecow | yes ? |
| 03:07.17 | bluspacecow | why ? |
| 03:07.30 | Lunessa | because he is Fisker and he's trolling you. |
| 03:08.14 | Pirate952 | any reason why this wouldnt work? PlaySoundFile("Interface\\AddOns\\Transformers\\wav\\transformers.wav") |
| 03:08.21 | Pirate952 | ive tried both wav and mp3 |
| 03:08.34 | Pirate952 | not playing in game :/ and i have restarted client |
| 03:09.04 | bluspacecow | dont think it takes wavs anymore |
| 03:09.13 | Pirate952 | the mp3 doesnt work either |
| 03:09.15 | Pirate952 | in game |
| 03:09.23 | bluspacecow | paths wrong maybe ? |
| 03:09.31 | Pirate952 | nope :( |
| 03:09.50 | Lunessa | Pirate952: Important question, have you turned off Sound effects? |
| 03:09.51 | Pirate952 | is the a in addons case sensitive? |
| 03:10.00 | Pirate952 | i have them turned on |
| 03:10.18 | mascondante | sylvanaar: Ah ok. Well either way it was a wonderful product and I enjoyed it for a long time :-) |
| 03:10.33 | Shirik | no Fisker |
| 03:13.11 | Pirate952 | omg im an idiot |
| 03:13.18 | Pirate952 | mp3 was named transform not transformers :( |
| 03:13.22 | Pirate952 | DOH! |
| 03:13.55 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 03:13.58 | bluspacecow | see |
| 03:14.10 | bluspacecow | the path was wrong after all :\ |
| 03:15.24 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: have you seen this guys changes that are apparently 'too big to submit as a patch'? i wont let him take it over until i see what hes done |
| 03:16.53 | aualin | How can something be to big to submit a patch? :/ |
| 03:17.25 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: no |
| 03:17.52 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: no - I told him to talk to Ckk |
| 03:18.04 | Arrowmaster | ckk rarely ever talks to anybody |
| 03:18.07 | Arrowmaster | he needs to talk to me |
| 03:18.59 | |Jelly| | He used to talk to me. |
| 03:19.07 | |Jelly| | Used to. :( |
| 03:19.10 | sylvanaar | well, i talked to Ckk, and thats what he said to do. You can message him if you like |
| 03:19.19 | sylvanaar | the guy i mean |
| 03:19.29 | Arrowmaster | i mean i dont think any random person that has tried to contact ckk about updating one of his addons gets a reply |
| 03:20.04 | bluspacecow | cause thats how he rolls |
| 03:20.12 | Lulia | Goooooooooooooooo pats |
| 03:20.17 | sylvanaar | yeah, ckk, said for the guy to come on IRC and message him. I dont think that is going to happen |
| 03:20.18 | Lulia | Is Nobgul around? |
| 03:20.27 | sylvanaar | I think the guy is full of shit |
| 03:20.37 | Cairenn | he's sleeping, hopefully |
| 03:20.52 | Cairenn | Lulia: ^^ |
| 03:21.02 | Yssaril | Cairenn: since when is wowinterface staff alowed to sleep? |
| 03:21.07 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:21.07 | Lulia | Oh! |
| 03:21.10 | bluspacecow | Hey Cairenn |
| 03:21.15 | bluspacecow | i has my cata box ! |
| 03:21.16 | Lulia | I wanted to share my excitement with him :( |
| 03:21.22 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: the guy saying he updated it? |
| 03:21.22 | Lulia | Back to the Pats game |
| 03:21.23 | Cairenn | hi bluspacecow |
| 03:21.26 | Lulia | hugs Cairenn. |
| 03:21.34 | Cairenn | hugs Lulia |
| 03:21.43 | Lulia|Watchingth | awww |
| 03:23.32 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 03:23.51 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: i asked him several times for his code - wouldnt give it to me |
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| 03:24.13 | Arrowmaster | first i heard of this was from http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/fubar-4/ |
| 03:24.20 | Arrowmaster | which makes me not happy |
| 03:24.23 | sylvanaar | yeah lol |
| 03:24.31 | sylvanaar | i told him not to do that |
| 03:24.32 | Arrowmaster | so im already against him |
| 03:24.52 | Arrowmaster | if hes not careful ill get somebody to delete his comments on the fubar page |
| 03:24.59 | sylvanaar | hehe |
| 03:25.20 | sylvanaar | i warned him about the license terms |
| 03:25.27 | bluspacecow | wtf |
| 03:25.28 | Arrowmaster | especially if i see a rapidshare (etc, theres so many clones now) link |
| 03:25.31 | bluspacecow | fubar 4 ? |
| 03:25.49 | bluspacecow | just let it go people |
| 03:25.50 | bluspacecow | let it |
| 03:25.53 | bluspacecow | go |
| 03:26.00 | Arrowmaster | it is |
| 03:26.10 | Arrowmaster | Rock seems broken beyond repair |
| 03:26.12 | Arrowmaster | finally |
| 03:26.15 | bluspacecow | woah |
| 03:26.19 | bluspacecow | really |
| 03:26.20 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats what i thought |
| 03:26.30 | bluspacecow | *big anime style teary eyes* |
| 03:26.33 | sylvanaar | something in rockconfig was broken |
| 03:26.38 | bluspacecow | thank the lord and jeasus above |
| 03:26.47 | Arrowmaster | i say that because i know Shefki isnt going to fix it because he let PitBull3 die |
| 03:26.55 | Amarande | so fubar is ... fubar. :) |
| 03:27.05 | Arrowmaster | and im not going to maintain it, especially since i dont have an active account so i CANT fix it |
| 03:27.13 | Amarande | I remember the fun that FuBar was in BC ... but Data Broker has just eclipsed it |
| 03:27.18 | Amarande | once Bazooka became viable at least |
| 03:27.34 | sylvanaar | i made the fixes i was going to make because I was using it during beta, but have since switched to bazooka |
| 03:27.43 | Amarande | because the main thing that was bothering me about moving on from FuBar was that I liked the "bar at the top of the screen" type of panel |
| 03:28.14 | Amarande | sylvanaar: All loveliness fades :) |
| 03:28.15 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: i thought the majority of broker displays were like that? |
| 03:28.28 | sylvanaar | i like bazooka |
| 03:28.35 | Amarande | Arrow: some aren't *exactly* the same. For instance the differences in Titan Panel's appearance bothered me |
| 03:28.35 | sylvanaar | im happy with it |
| 03:28.43 | Amarande | well, that and I could never get the font size in Titan Panel to work right *and stay right* |
| 03:28.53 | Amarande | I'd keep logging on or reloadui'ing to the text being the wrong size |
| 03:29.11 | Amarande | You know what I want to know though |
| 03:29.20 | Amarande | why do we have to have a special addon with a special font directory to let addons access fonts? |
| 03:29.28 | Amarande | why can't WoW just access all the fonts installed on the system as UI choices? |
| 03:29.32 | Kraps | " Her feelings had been turned against her during the War Against the Nightmare, trapping her in a dream in which she had indeed prevented him from becoming the Lich King ⦠by becoming the Lich Queen herself in his stead. â¦" |
| 03:29.37 | Kraps | whoa |
| 03:29.40 | Kraps | heavy |
| 03:29.47 | Amarande | Kraps: I'm guessing that's about Jaina? |
| 03:29.50 | bluspacecow | no |
| 03:29.55 | Kraps | yeah |
| 03:29.58 | bluspacecow | with Lib Data Broker |
| 03:30.03 | bluspacecow | you have a choice of displays |
| 03:30.08 | bluspacecow | anything you like |
| 03:31.01 | Arrowmaster | well i know one of the first displays, StatsBlock, was nothing like the FuBar/Titan model so not many people converted to it |
| 03:31.35 | Torhal | The people who did swear by it |
| 03:31.40 | Torhal | It's like a Mac thing. |
| 03:31.42 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:31.50 | Arrowmaster | although there are old now defunct addons that it makes a good replacement for |
| 03:35.29 | Kraps | " Instead, she hung toward the back of the cathedral, standing quietly in the shadows, watching and listening and doing what she did best ⦠thinking." |
| 03:35.32 | Kraps | derp |
| 03:35.43 | Kraps | yes, she does that a lot |
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| 03:39.48 | Esamynn | Primer: ping |
| 03:40.01 | jnwhiteh | ding 82. goodnight |
| 03:40.13 | Yssaril | can anyone recomend a good gaming headset? |
| 03:40.13 | jnwhiteh | Not going hyjal was a mistake |
| 03:40.15 | jnwhiteh | but ah well |
| 03:41.05 | jnwhiteh | sleeps for me. |
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| 03:42.13 | Iriel | Yssaril: Full headphones? or just one ear? |
| 03:42.32 | Yssaril | Iriel: full (and no USB if possible) |
| 03:42.40 | Iriel | I use a Logitech G35 on my PC, but it's USB |
| 03:43.09 | Yssaril | you like it though? |
| 03:43.20 | Ackis | how long were the servers down for jnwhiteh? |
| 03:43.49 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: |
| 03:43.51 | Iriel | It's comfortable and sounds great.. It's closed ear tho, so you'll block outside sound |
| 03:45.08 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:45.15 | Amarande | Hyjal is a better choice than Vashj'ir then? |
| 03:45.43 | Amarande | also, do warlocks have an edge in Vashj'ir because of the no-strings-attached 20% swim speed boost from the unending breath glyph? |
| 03:46.38 | nevcairiel | no |
| 03:46.50 | nevcairiel | only druids have the advantage with their aquatic form |
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| 03:46.58 | nevcairiel | its as fast as the underwater mount :) |
| 03:48.02 | Ackis | how do you get to vashj'ir? |
| 03:48.08 | Amarande | underwater mount. you get one automatically in vashj'ir or does everyone want to have a turtle now? |
| 03:48.09 | Ackis | never did that one |
| 03:48.36 | Amarande | nev: doesn't the UB glyph speed boost stack with mounts? |
| 03:48.39 | nevcairiel | you get it in vashjir |
| 03:48.48 | Amarande | it doesn't say it doesn't, after all |
| 03:48.49 | nevcairiel | Ackis: quest in sw/org |
| 03:49.20 | Ackis | nevcairiel: ahh same as hyjal then |
| 03:49.28 | Amarande | and apparently you can only travel to Vashj'ir as horde from KALIMDOR, there's no way in or out to/from Eastern Kingdoms despite it being located there? |
| 03:49.42 | nevcairiel | you can fly there and start swimming |
| 03:49.51 | nevcairiel | but you need the initial breadcrumb from your capital city |
| 03:49.56 | Amarande | they're really trying to make us homebase in Org rather than TB or UC aren't they. :| |
| 03:51.30 | Yssaril | Amarande: the vashj'ir flightpoint connected to UC in beta |
| 03:52.06 | Yssaril | its a log flight though |
| 03:52.16 | Yssaril | s/log/long/ |
| 03:53.31 | kd3 | ok. I think I'm ready. 25/110 bag slots |
| 03:56.05 | KarlKFI | lol, i just eliminated the heavy, max and strong bad in one hand :-D |
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| 03:59.18 | KarlKFI | and got my Enthusiat's Timepiece. win |
| 04:00.11 | Jerub | okay, i just bought cata in a store, for slightly less than the heavily discounted offer from dick smith |
| 04:00.18 | Jerub | and now tomorrow i can return the mailorder one for full price |
| 04:00.28 | Jerub | that is to say, what i paid for it |
| 04:02.21 | Dagmar | Good plan |
| 04:02.40 | Dagmar | I just went to Best Buy to pick up a 9800 for the girlie, and they were getting calls about midnight release stuff there |
| 04:03.18 | Dagmar | I toyed with that sales rep a bit... "You mean you can't suggest they just go and "pre-order" it on Blizzard's site? ;) " |
| 04:03.27 | Lunessa | Great... just great. Cataclysm drops for me tonight, and I'm sitting here with a migraine bad enough to make me feel like vomiting. FML |
| 04:03.38 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Drooogs |
| 04:03.39 | Dagmar | Take em |
| 04:04.08 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I've got the maximum safe amount of ibuprofen in my system already. |
| 04:04.27 | Amarande | Dagmar: as in GeForce 9800? |
| 04:04.39 | Torhal | Urk. GearScore 4.0 is now obfuscated. |
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| 04:04.45 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yep |
| 04:04.49 | Amarande | Dude, at least get a GTS 250, it's the 9800GTX+ rebranded :) |
| 04:04.54 | Shadowed | Torhal are you sure its not just the bad coding |
| 04:04.55 | Shadowed | and link? |
| 04:05.09 | Torhal | Shadowed: http://wow.curseforge.com/admin/activities/files_file-486368-gear-score-4-0/ |
| 04:05.12 | Torhal | local e = |
| 04:05.20 | Shadowed | Did you just link me an admin page |
| 04:05.20 | Torhal | Shit like that. LuaSrcDiet for sure. |
| 04:05.21 | Shadowed | :P |
| 04:05.24 | Torhal | Bah |
| 04:05.26 | Torhal | Hold on |
| 04:05.29 | Dagmar | Amarande: Did I mention I was picking it up at Best Buy? |
| 04:05.29 | Amarande | Time for it to go in baddons. :) |
| 04:05.35 | Torhal | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/gearscore/files/49-gear-score-4-0/ |
| 04:05.37 | Amarande | Which is where GearScore belongs, anyway. |
| 04:05.40 | Dagmar | Amarande: They don't have the 250's in the store |
| 04:05.41 | Lunessa | Amarande: Again |
| 04:06.06 | Amarande | Lunessa: heh, it's like the trolls that use it :S |
| 04:06.13 | Amarande | it regenerates from dead every time :( |
| 04:06.19 | Dagmar | Amarande: Honestly I'd have bought a 460 and put *my* 9800 in the girlie's machine, _if Best Buy could be bothered to stock it_ |
| 04:06.25 | Shadowed | Lunessa i think Blizzard already said no obfuscation |
| 04:06.29 | Shadowed | so you could deny it based on that :P |
| 04:06.30 | Shadowed | er Torhal |
| 04:06.44 | Amarande | Yeah, if you obfuscate a *hello world* program without Blizzard's permission it'll go in baddons. :) |
| 04:06.44 | Lunessa | I was going to say... I'm not a site staffer! |
| 04:06.51 | Torhal | Shadowed: Yah, I know - but Ackis rubber-stamped it so I have to kick his ass first. |
| 04:06.56 | Shadowed | silly Ackis |
| 04:07.53 | Kraps | "He was clever, intelligent, more scrupulous and less annoying than most of his brethren," i lold |
| 04:07.58 | Torhal | And by "kick his ass" I mean "PM him and ask 'WTF?'" |
| 04:08.00 | Torhal | :D |
| 04:08.08 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: WHAT THE FUCK? |
| 04:08.08 | Dagmar | So Cartographer got permission to remain obfuscated? |
| 04:08.26 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: no thats just ckk's coding style |
| 04:08.31 | Dagmar | lol |
| 04:08.34 | Jerub | what about badkitty? |
| 04:08.45 | Jerub | wait, not badkitty. that other one. |
| 04:08.50 | Jerub | FeralByNight |
| 04:09.31 | Jerub | maybe i mean rawr. |
| 04:09.34 | Jerub | it's one of them! |
| 04:10.19 | nebula169 | PLEASE REMEMBER, GearScore is NOT OPEN SOURCE, the code, name, theme, formula, and overall design are COPYRIGHTED PROPERTY. This addon is authorized only for personal usage. If you try to use any portion of our addon for another project we will aggressively defend our Copyrights! |
| 04:10.21 | nebula169 | lol |
| 04:10.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (~Aquavette@74-142-228-9.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 04:10.32 | Torhal | ... |
| 04:10.36 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.02 | Torhal | If the code is anything like the old code, I wouldn't WANT to use it in another project. |
| 04:11.18 | Jerub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUwkQRJdXHQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 04:11.52 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: remember to keep me informed of any of his screw ups, like this obfuscating of the new gearscore, i want to do the site ban when he finally goes over the limit |
| 04:12.33 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: BWAH! |
| 04:13.13 | Shadowed | Torhal http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1021053914 if you need the official post |
| 04:13.14 | Shadowed | on it |
| 04:13.36 | Torhal | Shadowed: On what? |
| 04:13.40 | Shadowed | GS :p |
| 04:13.51 | Shadowed | that's where it says, you can't obfuscate without permission etc etc |
| 04:14.03 | Torhal | Ah |
| 04:14.18 | Torhal | Danke. |
| 04:14.32 | Torhal | I think Ackis is sleeping or something, so I'll go ahead and deal with it. |
| 04:15.00 | Yssaril | Torhal: at least wowinterface got it right and put the upload on hold :) |
| 04:15.21 | Lunessa | You just need to tell him if he submits it again you will cut him with a linoleum knife. |
| 04:15.40 | Arrowmaster | tentonhammer is an official fan site right? |
| 04:16.46 | Shadowed | incgamers? |
| 04:16.48 | Shadowed | I believe so |
| 04:17.17 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think tentonhammer and incgamers were related |
| 04:17.36 | Shadowed | Pretty sure tentonhammer is the parent site, incgamers is a sister? Cairenn knows more |
| 04:17.45 | Torhal | And now to see how many people freak when GearScore is no longer available on Curse. |
| 04:17.59 | Yssaril | Torhal: you removed it? |
| 04:18.04 | Dagmar | Whoops. |
| 04:18.09 | Jerub | Torhal: <3 |
| 04:18.10 | Shadowed | wait you removed it? |
| 04:18.10 | Arrowmaster | ok where the hell is the fansite list at now |
| 04:18.21 | Dagmar | That machine wasn't off when i replaced the video card... it was _hibernating_ |
| 04:18.24 | Dagmar | This should be interesting. |
| 04:18.24 | Cairenn | I wasn't aware of tenton being affliated with incgamers at all |
| 04:18.27 | Shadowed | oh |
| 04:18.29 | Shadowed | maybe I'm wrong |
| 04:18.31 | Torhal | I didn't remove it. I marked the project as "Changes required" and quoted the policy. |
| 04:18.43 | Torhal | A project with that state won't show up on Curse. |
| 04:18.47 | Yssaril | people can still get the 4.0 version though |
| 04:18.56 | Yssaril | via cursefore at least |
| 04:18.59 | Yssaril | forge |
| 04:19.05 | Shadowed | Weird, I thought tentonhammer was associated with some old UI site |
| 04:19.11 | Torhal | Then I'll delete the file as well. |
| 04:19.26 | Torhal | Oh |
| 04:19.35 | Torhal | He deleted all previous releases |
| 04:20.22 | Lunessa | lulz |
| 04:20.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Xyphoid (~xx@202-154-147-182.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz) |
| 04:20.39 | Shadowed | weird |
| 04:20.43 | Cairenn | yeah, he's being really pissy these days |
| 04:20.43 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster are you looking at the code at all? |
| 04:21.02 | Cairenn | trying to claim that the name is Trademarked ... not copyright protected, Trademarked |
| 04:21.03 | Arrowmaster | yes, and the copy of tentonhammers PlayerScore |
| 04:21.27 | Arrowmaster | if they are a fan site im betting that status is getting revoked |
| 04:21.33 | Shadowed | hrm, why? |
| 04:21.56 | Lunessa | I started on a "player ranking" addon and gave it up as a stupid attempt to solve a social problem with an addon. |
| 04:22.00 | Yssaril | LOL the GS4 youtube vid is funny (he is totaly defensive) |
| 04:22.12 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: why? |
| 04:22.19 | Shadowed | I don't think they setup the fansite listings again on the new UI yet |
| 04:22.28 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMjY528y0PM < this sucked today |
| 04:22.35 | Arrowmaster | "Welcome to GearScore/PlayerScore 4.0\n\nGearScore is now PlayerScore, a collaboration between GearScore and MMORPG news and guides website, TenTonHammer.com. With a vast array of features, easy to use interface, and an integrated web component, PlayerScore is the most powerful addon experience ever created for World of Warcraft. |
| 04:22.48 | Shadowed | errr |
| 04:22.48 | Shadowed | what |
| 04:22.49 | Arrowmaster | www.playerscore.com |
| 04:22.51 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster link? |
| 04:22.51 | Torhal | Ok, GearScore is now completely gone from Curse. |
| 04:23.02 | Shadowed | Torhal I'm going to laugh at you when Ackis freaks out :P |
| 04:23.05 | Shadowed | cause he got 500 messages |
| 04:23.06 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: i pulled that from the gearscore source |
| 04:23.08 | Torhal | Shadowed: :D |
| 04:23.09 | *** join/#wowuidev djDef (forsaken@ip68-107-198-240.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 04:23.17 | Shadowed | oh |
| 04:23.18 | Torhal | Shadowed: I told Kaelten what i did and he laughed already. |
| 04:23.20 | Shadowed | reading it more |
| 04:23.27 | Shadowed | yea but Kaelten is evil |
| 04:23.31 | Torhal | Haha |
| 04:23.42 | bleeter | so I see Lesson #1 from BC has been thrown out the door for launch of Cataclysm. |
| 04:23.45 | Shadowed | I'm not sure why he copyrighted GearScore and then renamed it to PlayerScore |
| 04:23.55 | Arrowmaster | he didnt i dont think |
| 04:23.55 | bleeter | HEY LETS GET EVERYONE TO ALL GO TO THE ONE PLACE |
| 04:24.01 | bleeter | ie, gryphon master |
| 04:24.27 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Looks like he's not distributing the web part |
| 04:24.38 | bleeter | pretty sure that was lesson #1 of BC, as publicly admitted 'putting everyone in one place at xpac launch is bad mojo' or similar, the quote |
| 04:24.40 | Arrowmaster | since he just uploaded GearScore to curse and tentonhammer has a PlayerScore addon, which have different code |
| 04:24.58 | nebula169 | http://pscore.tentonhammer.com/client/wow/setup/PlayerScoreSetup.exe lol, has its own installer and everything |
| 04:24.58 | Shadowed | I guess PlayerScore.com isn't up yet |
| 04:25.03 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: the playerscore addon is also obfuscated to hell |
| 04:25.17 | Dagmar | Yssaril: Do you have a link for the video on YouTube? It doesnt' seem to show up in a search |
| 04:25.17 | Arrowmaster | and GearScore looks like it was run through LuaSrcDiet but the PlayerScore addon looks like it was written to be obfuscated |
| 04:25.30 | Shadowed | so they went with the carbonite insane style of obfuscation you mean |
| 04:25.45 | Arrowmaster | download it and look |
| 04:25.45 | Yssaril | Shadowed: yea |
| 04:25.46 | Torhal | No line breaks, even |
| 04:25.49 | Shadowed | interesting |
| 04:25.52 | Dagmar | nebula169: Oh yay. Everyone LOVES native executeables! |
| 04:25.52 | Shadowed | but that takes effort! |
| 04:26.00 | Iriel | Well, there's a difference between 'compacted' and 'obfuscated' |
| 04:26.07 | nebula169 | its so you can update it! |
| 04:26.08 | Iriel | Obfuscation is frowned upon |
| 04:26.19 | Shadowed | arguably, if you're 'compacting' it, you're obfuscating it |
| 04:26.28 | Shadowed | because there's not really a legitimate use for compacting in WoW |
| 04:26.31 | Shadowed | as far as I know? |
| 04:26.32 | Arrowmaster | line 1 from PlayerScore.lua |
| 04:26.41 | Arrowmaster | local vsn="0.87"; local dbsa={}; local nezz={}; local suca={}; local zasf={}; local uukl={}; local jjj=nil; local dsup=nil; local eee=nil; local aaa=nil; local bbb=nil; local ccc=nil; local ddd=nil; local fff=nil; local ggg=nil; local hhh=nil; local iii=nil; local f78a=""; local qn7f=""; local whewh=""; local drsa=""; local a33b=""; local tempid=0; local dusa=0; local eac="en"; local chead={}; local fram |
| 04:26.47 | Arrowmaster | e=_G.CreateFrame("Frame", "TTHFrame"); local TTHTEMP=""; local TTHCOUNTER=0; local sftj=""; local s87e=nil; local kkfk=""; local kkk=1; |
| 04:26.50 | Arrowmaster | that is NOT LuaSrcDiet |
| 04:26.56 | Dagmar | What's wrong with randomcasing? |
| 04:27.02 | Dagmar | Kids these days |
| 04:27.39 | Yssaril | Iriel: what would you call this http://paste.wowace.com/v2yzfohpdr93sj7a/ obfuscated or compacted |
| 04:27.48 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: make sure your blizz contacts are aware so they can send out a new baddons |
| 04:28.01 | Dagmar | They need to try using Murlocfiscation |
| 04:28.46 | Dagmar | Every variable being a randomcased variation on MrGgGlLLllLll |
| 04:28.56 | Yssaril | lol |
| 04:29.04 | Dagmar | then it would at least fit the theem |
| 04:29.07 | Dagmar | er theme. |
| 04:29.11 | Nobgul | obfuscated |
| 04:29.28 | Jerub | ^someone put dagmar in the quotefile. |
| 04:29.40 | Lunessa | Ok... I'm out. Later |
| 04:29.43 | Dagmar | *blush* |
| 04:30.07 | Iriel | Yssaril: hm, that;s some weird inbetween fusion |
| 04:30.19 | Arrowmaster | Iriel: no its not, its pure obfuscation |
| 04:30.23 | KarlKFI | And the Iron Curtain is mine! i win |
| 04:30.24 | Lulia | Arrowmaster: I figured out what was causing the bug. It still doesn't make sense, but I figured it out. |
| 04:30.26 | Arrowmaster | even the saved vars are obfuscated |
| 04:30.41 | olafski | my guild just lost 2 levels oO |
| 04:31.02 | Shadowed | that looks more like compaction, not obfuscation |
| 04:31.06 | Fisker | Shadowed |
| 04:31.09 | Shadowed | not in the same that Carbonite is |
| 04:31.19 | Adys | my guild just lost a level >.> |
| 04:31.36 | Yssaril | carbonite did loadstring stuff too right? |
| 04:31.49 | Arrowmaster | carbonite was double layers of obfuscation |
| 04:31.52 | Shadowed | Carbonite basically |
| 04:31.58 | Dagmar | Shadowed: Just the same, the nonsense variable names are obfuscation |
| 04:31.58 | Shadowed | implemented the greatest obfuscation I've seen |
| 04:32.15 | Shadowed | Dagmar: Yea, I mean it's still obfusaction but I'd not put it on the same level as Carbonites |
| 04:32.16 | Cairenn | carbonite talked to Blizz and got their current version of obfuscation allowed |
| 04:32.18 | Shadowed | Carbonites was a work of art |
| 04:32.29 | Iriel | Carbonite was crazy, the whole "Addon provides a VM" thing |
| 04:32.32 | Shadowed | yea |
| 04:32.42 | Arrowmaster | when did it do that? |
| 04:32.49 | Shadowed | do what, the VM thing or get permission? |
| 04:32.54 | Shadowed | They got permission from Blizzard pretty quickly as far as I know |
| 04:32.55 | Arrowmaster | the vm thing |
| 04:32.58 | Shadowed | and it's always done the VM thing |
| 04:33.17 | Iriel | Are you sure they got permission? |
| 04:33.32 | Shadowed | I'm going to guess that Cairenn wouldn't say they did, without checking :P |
| 04:33.35 | Cairenn | Iriel: yes, I checked with them |
| 04:33.41 | Iriel | Interesting |
| 04:33.45 | Arrowmaster | why? |
| 04:33.47 | Cairenn | I'm the one that actually coordinated it :p |
| 04:33.59 | Arrowmaster | why the hell would blizz give them permission? |
| 04:34.17 | Arrowmaster | especially since the addon policy was a direct fucking result of carbonite |
| 04:34.21 | Lulia | A lot of people use them? |
| 04:34.40 | Shadowed | It was a result of Carbonite putting ads in their addon |
| 04:34.42 | Cairenn | because I told the Carbonite folks that it wasn't acceptable, they changed it somewhat, I asked Blizz if it was okay yet, they wanted it changed a bit more, they complied, Blizz said okay, it's fine now |
| 04:34.43 | Shadowed | not their obfuscation really |
| 04:35.19 | Lulia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4GdGSnhr_c&feature=player_embedded |
| 04:35.20 | Lulia | lol |
| 04:35.36 | Cairenn | and yeah, it was the ads that pissed Blizz off, big time |
| 04:35.36 | Cairenn | (afk a few) |
| 04:35.42 | mascondante | Still <3 SUF. |
| 04:35.54 | Dagmar | Lulia: I agree with the judge |
| 04:36.02 | Lulia | hehehe |
| 04:36.22 | Lulia | I'm surprised that guy managed to sound like that |
| 04:37.41 | Dagmar | All it takes is some cotton jockey shorts, and a few hot water washes |
| 04:39.41 | Torhal | ...that YouTube video of GearScore 4.0 looks a hell of a lot like portions of ElitistGroup... |
| 04:40.14 | Nobgul | Lulia, lul |
| 04:40.32 | Dagmar | catacylsm.... sooo close! |
| 04:40.38 | Lulia | Nobgul! |
| 04:40.46 | Lulia | I figured it out |
| 04:40.50 | Amarande | Well, to be fair, a move towards being more like ElitistGroup would improve GS by a *little* anyways |
| 04:40.53 | mikma | oh good, they actually made worgen run with 4 feet :D |
| 04:40.54 | Lulia | I still think there's a Blizzard bug in there somewhere |
| 04:40.59 | Amarande | I can't stand GS, but I did like EG. |
| 04:41.02 | Lulia | But at least I got it working for me |
| 04:41.18 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: the addon UI looks like total fucking ass though |
| 04:41.29 | Amarande | mikma: the worgen "mount" thing, uses the standard rules for mounts apart from lacking an actual mount, right? |
| 04:41.37 | Amarande | or did they resurrect the Plainswalking nightmare? |
| 04:41.43 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Definitely |
| 04:42.07 | Amarande | wonders how many worgen will make a priority to exalt with something other than Gilneas so they can get a real mount. :) |
| 04:42.08 | Yssaril | Amarande: standard mount rules |
| 04:43.01 | KarlKFI | lol. i just took strong bad's glasses 1 hand into the game |
| 04:43.13 | Arrowmaster | so they have to get exalted with another race to get a mount? |
| 04:44.18 | Iriel | My worgen will have a 'real' mount at 20, yay sparklepony |
| 04:44.24 | kd3 | har |
| 04:44.48 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: yeah. |
| 04:44.58 | Amarande | Iriel: heh, I considered buying that once |
| 04:45.01 | Amarande | until I noticed like EVERYONE had it |
| 04:45.29 | Amarande | wonder if no one is going to do heroic Sethekk anymore, too |
| 04:45.43 | Amarande | since Anzu's probably yesterday's news since it's not a flying mount :S |
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| 04:49.25 | Primer | is TOC number the same for Cata? |
| 04:49.35 | Lulia | Should be |
| 04:49.36 | kd3 | yes. nothing changes but a few serverside variables |
| 04:49.47 | Lulia | It's still v 4.0 (4000) |
| 04:49.49 | Primer | cool, cutting a release! |
| 04:50.04 | Lulia | I'm putting out a new version for mine too :) |
| 04:50.25 | Lulia | I'm excited. Eclipse 'foresee' energy, a new unlock/lock system, and other changes :D |
| 04:51.41 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: you said earlier that he keeps trying to claim the GearScore name is trademarked but i cant find any record of it |
| 04:51.58 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster, I have look extensivly in canada and the us. It is not |
| 04:52.32 | Amarande | Arrow: what's he trying to do, prevent Blizzard from banning GearScore by claiming the name is trademarked and thus putting it in Baddons would be a TM violation and supposedly permit him a suit? |
| 04:53.42 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: if he resubmits the curse project for approval i want to mark it for changes required again for falsely claiming the name is trademarked in the description |
| 04:54.42 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster he's canadian I believe |
| 04:55.03 | Ackis | I'm sorry |
| 04:55.04 | Ackis | :( |
| 04:55.28 | Arrowmaster | well Nobgul just said he checked and its not trademarked in canada |
| 04:55.49 | Shadowed | I mean I assume it isn't |
| 04:56.38 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I'll let you know :) |
| 04:57.42 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: he can use TM just fine (it doesnt give legal protection) its the (R) that means its registerd and thus protected (at least in the US) |
| 04:58.25 | Nobgul | tekkub, You here? |
| 05:00.19 | Yssaril | but you could call him out for trying to copyright the name (his bottom paragraph) names can not be copyprotected (thats what registered trademarks are for) |
| 05:00.31 | Cairenn | Yssaril: in Canada, which is where his IP traces to, Trademarked has to be registered with the appropriate government agency and does carry protections as well |
| 05:01.23 | Yssaril | Cairenn: so in canada to use the TM he has to register it? |
| 05:01.33 | Cairenn | when he came to me asking me to pull some other file, it was because (in his words) "It has GearScore in the name and I have Trademarked the name" |
| 05:01.50 | Yssaril | ahh |
| 05:01.52 | Cairenn | (there was more to the reason, but that was part of it) |
| 05:02.22 | Cairenn | and yes, he very specifically said the name was trademarked, the rest of what he was complaining about he was claiming copyright (which also wasn't actually valid, but anyway) |
| 05:02.45 | Cairenn | and in Canada, you have to apply for TM |
| 05:02.52 | Arrowmaster | yeah his entire copyright is technically invalid too |
| 05:03.04 | Arrowmaster | the project was listed as public domain originally |
| 05:03.33 | Cairenn | and you can't copyright a mathematical forumla, unless I greatly misremember? that has to be patented, doesn't it? |
| 05:03.43 | kd3 | yup |
| 05:03.47 | Cairenn | so again |
| 05:03.50 | Cairenn | fail #2 |
| 05:03.55 | Arrowmaster | although version 4 is probably enough of a complete rewrite that its copyrighted again |
| 05:04.43 | Cairenn | anyway, I'm quite frankly surprised that he didn't pull it from WoWI completely, because we refused to pull the other addon on the basis of the reasons he gave us |
| 05:04.48 | Ackis | new guild just clued in I'm the author of ackis recipe list... :|> |
| 05:04.49 | Cairenn | since I asked him to prove it |
| 05:05.17 | Cairenn | I half expected him to "take his bat and ball and go home" |
| 05:05.19 | Yssaril | Ackis: lol |
| 05:05.20 | Fisker | Cairenn |
| 05:05.31 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: both wowi and curse should just refuse to host any of his addons |
| 05:05.42 | Yssaril | Cairenn: he craves the attention at this point probably |
| 05:06.06 | Cairenn | yeah, well, he's about to get a lot of attention since his addon currently can't be downloaded from either of the two major sites :p |
| 05:06.25 | Arrowmaster | and likely going to be added to baddons AGAIN |
| 05:06.45 | Torhal | He seems to have a bad case of Inflated Ego. |
| 05:06.51 | Arrowmaster | isnt gearscore the only addon to have been added to baddons yet? |
| 05:06.54 | kd3 | ooh, time to erase all memory of it from the wiki |
| 05:07.00 | Ackis | Cairenn: http://www.curseforge.com/projects/curseforge/tickets/2671-my-addon-isnt-approved/ |
| 05:07.26 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: MINE! |
| 05:08.22 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1252365295#6 <--- anyone seen that errore before |
| 05:08.29 | bluspacecow | *seen that error before |
| 05:08.53 | Nobgul | bluspacecow, disable chat mods |
| 05:09.01 | Yssaril | Arrowmaster: wtb full transcript |
| 05:09.10 | Arrowmaster | Yssaril: sec |
| 05:09.29 | Cairenn | Ackis: yeah, he's fighting with Shadowed, too |
| 05:09.35 | Shadowed | Ackis just call him dumb |
| 05:09.36 | Shadowed | and ban him from curse |
| 05:09.38 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Hold up |
| 05:09.44 | Shadowed | I'd have done that by now but Cairenn is too nice! |
| 05:09.49 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: but but |
| 05:10.16 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I just PM'd you with his report. |
| 05:10.16 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: in the curse report he claimed you have a crusade against him and somebody else should look at the report |
| 05:10.27 | Shadowed | did he? |
| 05:10.29 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: umm i can see it |
| 05:10.29 | Shadowed | I missed that |
| 05:10.30 | Amarande | Arrow: didn't the original Decursive land in baddons? |
| 05:10.30 | Ackis | Shadowed, Cairenn: a similar response from the two sites would be nice IMO |
| 05:10.39 | Amarande | or did they just nerf the API so you couldn't do it anymore? |
| 05:10.45 | Shadowed | Ackis query |
| 05:11.06 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: nerfed it, the baddons file didnt exist until after the addon policy |
| 05:11.07 | Yssaril | Amarande: baddons didn't exist back then they invented secure frames |
| 05:12.06 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I was the one who nuked GS, which he should be aware of since the moderator's name is attached - I've received PMs from people who disagreed with me before. |
| 05:12.27 | Torhal | So his mentioning of Shadowed comes across as...slightly paranoid. |
| 05:12.45 | Arrowmaster | im writting a reply to his report now |
| 05:12.49 | Yssaril | lol |
| 05:13.31 | Cairenn | well, and shadowed doesn't have anything to do with Curse, so |
| 05:13.39 | Amarande | I would say that any gear-score type addon should be against addon policy, *but* |
| 05:13.47 | Shadowed | yea good luck with that :P |
| 05:13.51 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: why the fuck are you IM'ing me instead of just PM'ing me over irc |
| 05:13.52 | Amarande | that would exclude EG, and force people to score based on the ilvl average provided by Blizzard |
| 05:14.06 | Nobgul | lol |
| 05:14.16 | Amarande | which would be even worse than recent GS, since it means people WOULD regularly start picking arena masters over skilled raiders |
| 05:14.19 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: easier to copy and paste on IM |
| 05:14.41 | Shadowed | haha |
| 05:15.05 | Amarande | (by strict ilvl, arena masters *are* better geared in Cata than skilled raiders :|) |
| 05:15.43 | Amarande | I'm still not sure why they decided to make arena gear a half-tier higher ilvl (basically, difference between ICC10 and ICC25 is about the difference) than raid gear |
| 05:20.44 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: should i close the report now or leave it open? |
| 05:21.24 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I'd close it. You said what had to be said. He either fixes the code or doesn't at this point. There's no room for debate. |
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| 05:23.31 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Except for the fact that he responded in the interim. Gah. |
| 05:24.49 | Arrowmaster | god he is a fucking idiot |
| 05:24.53 | mascondante | G'nite folks. Let me know how stupid cata launch got in the morning =) |
| 05:24.57 | Arrowmaster | no addons used encryption |
| 05:25.03 | Arrowmaster | BECAUSE ITS FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE |
| 05:25.19 | Torhal | He's also ignoring the fact that he has variables named "e" and "n", etc, and focusing only on the whitespace issue. |
| 05:25.53 | mascondante | ~Who is Arrowhead? |
| 05:25.53 | purl | arrowhead is, like, an angry man. |
| 05:25.54 | Torhal | I'm just glad I wasn't in the middle of drinking anything when I read that removal of whitespace increased performance. |
| 05:26.03 | Nobgul | lol |
| 05:26.03 | Jerub | Amarande: hasn't that been true in every expansion? ilvl of pvp gear is higher than pve. |
| 05:26.21 | Jerub | unless you're running bleeding edge progression heroic content i guess |
| 05:26.22 | mascondante | er arrowmaster... gah I need sleep nite all |
| 05:26.30 | Cairenn | Torhal: he's doing the same with us, and we keep pointing out that the whitespace removal isn't the main issue |
| 05:26.36 | Cairenn | we'd be willing to overlook it |
| 05:26.58 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: can we just mutually agree to ban him from both sites already? |
| 05:26.59 | Cairenn | its the variable/function obfuscation that is the big no no |
| 05:27.40 | Cairenn | well, I've just told Shadowed to send one last PM saying "look, you know what has to be done, either fix it or don't, we're done debating this" (only politer) |
| 05:28.10 | Shadowed | yes... politer |
| 05:28.15 | Cairenn | so it's up to him now, he may (in effect) self-ban himself :p |
| 05:29.36 | Shadowed | Is GS not on Curse period now? |
| 05:29.48 | Ackis | it's gone ShadniX |
| 05:29.50 | Ackis | bah |
| 05:29.52 | Ackis | Shadowed: |
| 05:29.57 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 05:29.58 | Shadowed | kk |
| 05:30.00 | Arrowmaster | its in a 'changes required' state which removes it from curse.com but its still on curseforge |
| 05:30.04 | Torhal | Shadowed: I marked the project on CF as "Changes Required" which effectively removed it |
| 05:30.05 | mascondante | ~bird |
| 05:30.05 | purl | rumour has it, bird is the word. |
| 05:30.06 | Ackis | it's listed as changes required and all the files are deleted |
| 05:30.08 | Shadowed | oh |
| 05:30.14 | Ackis | only moderators and the author can view the project |
| 05:30.18 | Torhal | Shadowed: At any rate, even if I hadn't done so, he's deleted all the previous files. |
| 05:30.26 | Arrowmaster | but the latest version was also deleted so there are no files on curseforge for users to download |
| 05:30.39 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i think everybody can view the project on curseforge |
| 05:30.50 | Ackis | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/gearscore/ |
| 05:30.56 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: They can, which is why I deleted the latest file |
| 05:30.58 | Ackis | Shadowed: can you see that project? |
| 05:31.01 | Shadowed | nope |
| 05:31.04 | Torhal | Hmm |
| 05:31.07 | Torhal | Owell |
| 05:31.08 | Shadowed | er wait |
| 05:31.09 | Shadowed | yes I can |
| 05:31.10 | Shadowed | it says changes required |
| 05:31.27 | Arrowmaster | did you watch the video yet? |
| 05:31.31 | Cairenn | woohoo, my copies of Cata just got dropped off /install |
| 05:31.35 | Arrowmaster | he totally ripped off your addon |
| 05:31.45 | Shadowed | yea I did |
| 05:31.45 | Lulia | I might get mine tomorrow, or, more likely, Wed |
| 05:31.50 | Jerub | "2) Add-on code must be completely visible. The program" is truncated. |
| 05:31.59 | Lulia | Which means I'll probably be behind in the leveling curve :( |
| 05:32.16 | Arrowmaster | Jerub: yes curseforge layout is functionally broken to all hell |
| 05:33.18 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: it's worse, he wouldn't have got that stuff cut off in the e-mail sent to him |
| 05:34.52 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: other stuff on curseforge (and wowace) layout are broken and unusable too, like how the activity log gets too wide and you cant read anything in it (ive seen that happen on the tickets page too i think) |
| 05:40.50 | Lulia | Just put my new version up on WoWI and Curseforge :) |
| 05:40.52 | Lulia | am excited |
| 05:40.53 | Arrowmaster | the hell, i just got around to looking at the xml file in the new version of gearscore and it looks like it copied part of it from another mod not knowing what it did |
| 05:40.57 | Lulia | ;) |
| 05:41.42 | Arrowmaster | hes got <!--@no-lib-strip@--> <!--@end-no-lib-strip@--> around loading his libraries but hes manually uploading to curse |
| 05:42.19 | Torhal | Ugh |
| 05:42.25 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1305770883 |
| 05:42.36 | Arrowmaster | also hes got <![CDATA[ ]]> around some of the code which makes me wonder what retarded xml editor he is using that hes got no clue how to operate correctly |
| 05:43.18 | Arrowmaster | damnit i dont have an active account so i doubt i can reply to that |
| 05:43.37 | Lulia | You know you want to give me approval, Curse guys! :D |
| 05:43.43 | Arrowmaster | and we never said it was because of whitespace removal |
| 05:44.46 | Nobgul | Please, any help would be extremely helpful. If you cant give me the answer, is there someplace I can contact blizzard officially and get permission? I didn't use any white space while programming most of my code and I dont want to have to re-write all of it :'( |
| 05:44.58 | Ackis | methinks Cairenn should reply, she's more diplomatic than me |
| 05:44.58 | Nobgul | Bullshit all his code had whitespace. |
| 05:45.30 | Arrowmaster | he specifically said in his report that he used a program to remove whitespaces and compress it |
| 05:45.32 | Cairenn | yes, it did, in 3.x |
| 05:46.54 | Ackis | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1305720951 |
| 05:47.21 | Lulia | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1305770883 |
| 05:47.23 | Lulia | oh dang |
| 05:47.25 | Lulia | :P |
| 05:48.12 | Lulia | hides Nobgul. |
| 05:49.21 | Cairenn | I responded |
| 05:50.48 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 05:51.40 | Ackis | I saw Cairenn :) quoted and said ditto pretty much in case he cared |
| 05:52.12 | Arrowmaster | somebody tell him that if he really thinks compressing his code like that improves performance he should go jump in a trash compactor to increase his health |
| 05:52.44 | Ackis | my penis is so big, I can drive in the car pool alone |
| 05:52.56 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster, Done. |
| 05:53.20 | Arrowmaster | Nobgul: where? |
| 05:53.31 | Lulia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0LGW8urTOs&feature=player_embedded lol |
| 05:53.37 | Lulia | I don't like her accent though :-/ |
| 05:53.55 | Nobgul | Arrowmaster, same thread. |
| 05:54.19 | Arrowmaster | thats not what i said |
| 05:54.50 | Nobgul | lol Arrowmaster, |
| 05:56.10 | Dagmar | He actually expects someone to believe he wrote that with abunch of variabled named iii and jsufj in it? |
| 05:56.13 | Dagmar | How high is that guy? |
| 05:57.17 | Torhal | He's performing what is called "Damage Control". |
| 05:57.33 | Torhal | And he's also opened the dabate publicly on the o.forums |
| 05:58.04 | Dagmar | I call it "lying". |
| 05:58.05 | Cairenn | yes |
| 05:58.11 | Dagmar | ...and a rather insulting form of lying, at that. |
| 05:58.14 | Cairenn | (about taking it to the o.forums) |
| 05:59.42 | Yssaril | should just ban him due to lying imo :) |
| 06:00.10 | Kraps | 2 hours |
| 06:00.41 | Ackis | I'm not sure what he's trying to accomplish |
| 06:00.59 | Ackis | more flies with honey than vinegar |
| 06:00.59 | Dagmar | Better to humiliate him by posting some of the _clearly_ obfuscated code with the nonsense variable names in it. |
| 06:01.09 | Arrowmaster | ask him if he really coded the entire addon by only using single letters for all his local variables and local functions |
| 06:01.14 | Kraps | but you westerns and mountainers are already playing ya? |
| 06:01.16 | Cairenn | I just did |
| 06:01.19 | Torhal | Ackis: He's trying to hide the fact that not everything in his "I will fucking sue you if you use my code" AddOn was written by him |
| 06:01.35 | Ackis | Dagmar: no, that's not the route |
| 06:01.35 | Dagmar | Even people that don't program can generally spot deliberate obfuscation when they see it |
| 06:01.41 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: thats obvious, TenTonHammer is all over the file |
| 06:01.58 | Dagmar | Ackis: You're no fun, you know that? |
| 06:01.59 | Dagmar | heh |
| 06:02.16 | Cairenn | "local n,l,i,i,i,o,t,a;" is NOT "local e = nameofareallylongframe" |
| 06:02.27 | Ackis | Dagmar: I can't be at times :P |
| 06:02.33 | Dagmar | if the dude is going to outright lie like that, I don't see making it obvious he's lying as a bad thing |
| 06:02.40 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: i can find some better ones if you want? |
| 06:02.41 | Dagmar | The humilation is just a delicious side effect |
| 06:03.01 | Kraps | Lulia: hot |
| 06:03.27 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: go for it, that was just a quick grab that Shadowed had done when we first started talking about it and he was asking if we needed to pull it on WoWI too |
| 06:03.29 | Shadowed | I already responded with some better ones :P |
| 06:03.42 | Shadowed | since I randomly pulled out the line I gave to Cairenn and it wasn't as bad as others |
| 06:03.42 | Wobin | Cairenn: if you've not seen it... http://firefoxlive.mozilla.org/ |
| 06:04.00 | Cairenn | Wobin: awwwww |
| 06:04.23 | Ackis | I showed my fiancee ARL's code then showed her gearscore and she understood immediatly |
| 06:04.40 | Xyphoid | have you got code from previous gearscore versions to show? |
| 06:05.09 | Cairenn | yes, all the archived versions are still on WoWI |
| 06:05.15 | Cairenn | you can snag any of them that you want |
| 06:05.21 | Sintacks | anyone know where the code is in the Cata CE box.... |
| 06:05.26 | Sintacks | i dun't wanna open what i don't have to |
| 06:05.30 | Torhal | And I'm sorry, the only people who actually code like he claims to are people who are forced to because that's how MUSHcode works. |
| 06:06.06 | Yssaril | Sintacks: either the manual or on the disc case/envelope usually |
| 06:06.26 | Yssaril | Sintacks: no idea though just guessing |
| 06:07.12 | Shadowed | It's been reapproved |
| 06:07.15 | Shadowed | so you can download the 3.2 one |
| 06:07.25 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: haha i found unobfuscated code in it! search for 'temp9', he forgot to make it local |
| 06:07.50 | Shadowed | I'm more impressed that you are spending this much time on it |
| 06:07.51 | Shadowed | :P |
| 06:08.08 | Arrowmaster | i found it randomly |
| 06:08.14 | kd3 | reverse-engineering stupidity is something we do in here all the time |
| 06:08.29 | kd3 | didn't someone take apart the wm client more than once? |
| 06:08.42 | Yssaril | yea |
| 06:08.45 | Torhal | kd3: Arrowmaster did |
| 06:08.49 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 06:08.49 | Arrowmaster | along with the functions translateAch and tGCS |
| 06:09.24 | Arrowmaster | kd3: yeah, although to be honest Shirik showed me how to do it first but then i kept doing it and posting the results on the forums which makes me the person famous for doing it |
| 06:10.40 | Shadowed | haha |
| 06:10.54 | Torhal | OMFG |
| 06:10.57 | Ackis | keeps liking Cairenn's posts |
| 06:10.59 | Torhal | He's dainbread. |
| 06:11.24 | kd3 | lets out a whistle |
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| 06:12.18 | Arrowmaster | tell him to stop running it through LuaSrcDiet |
| 06:12.24 | Yssaril | Torhal: it took you this long to reach that conclusion? |
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| 06:14.07 | Arrowmaster | seriously its 100% obvious to us that he used LuaSrcDiet on the file, he did not code 'local e=LibStub("AceLocale-3.0");local n=e:GetLocale("GearScore4");local e=TenTonHammer;local t=e:GetName()' on his own |
| 06:15.29 | A-KO | Cairenn |
| 06:15.31 | A-KO | that guy is an idiot |
| 06:15.32 | A-KO | just an fyi |
| 06:15.36 | A-KO | arguing on the forums |
| 06:15.38 | Torhal | Actually getting something like that working would be pretty damn impossible. "Oh, what was 'e' here, again?" |
| 06:15.39 | A-KO | ui & macro stuff |
| 06:15.46 | Torhal | His backtraces would all be on line 1 |
| 06:15.56 | Jerub | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/140643/my-fiance-is-really-bad-at-this-game |
| 06:16.24 | Shadowed | I remember when I was 12 and wrote code that used only single letters for variables |
| 06:16.26 | Shadowed | the instructors were not amused |
| 06:16.36 | Torhal | Hah |
| 06:16.46 | Shadowed | or maybe it was 14, something along those lines |
| 06:16.50 | Dagmar | Yeah, I coded on a C-64 so when I got to college I was a nightmare for my professors |
| 06:17.02 | Dagmar | I had one flatly refuse to believe that what I'd written even ran |
| 06:17.21 | Shadowed | hahah |
| 06:17.43 | Cairenn | okay, so, he's finally written a somewhat reasonable response, how do I respond to it? this one: |
| 06:17.45 | Cairenn | But how do i fix it? DO i seriously have to go and rename every variable in my code? How man yletters must each variable be named? |
| 06:17.45 | Cairenn | All my functions are clear as day. Thats why I'm so upset, because I'm not trying to obfuscate anything, I offered to add back in the white space, I cant rename the functions those are already plain text, I just have to rename local variables. |
| 06:17.45 | Cairenn | I'm trying to work with you on this, not convince you to just take my addon as is, i want to know what I have to do to fix the issue? |
| 06:18.02 | Dagmar | I'd done some kinkiness with on (var="a" * -1) + (var="b" * -2) + (var="c" * -4) because the damn language didn't have a case statemtn |
| 06:18.21 | Kraps | i'm about halfway through the shattering, everything is terrible and getting worse :( |
| 06:18.34 | Lulia | I sort of doubt he actually wrote it like that, but that's not something which is provable :-/ |
| 06:18.42 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: tell him that you have expert addon authors telling you that they can tell 100% without a doubt that he used LuaSrcDiet on his code, he should simply not use LuaSrcDiet on it |
| 06:18.45 | Dagmar | Cairenn: I'm pretty sure he has the unobfuscated code somewhere |
| 06:18.55 | Torhal | Definitely |
| 06:19.05 | Torhal | There's no friggin' way to maintain that mess, even with the whitespace. |
| 06:19.23 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: he does, i found where he forgot to make a few functions and variables local so the original names are left intact |
| 06:19.31 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: already posted about LuaSrcDiet |
| 06:19.35 | Arrowmaster | i am 100% sure he used LuaSrcDiet |
| 06:19.36 | Kraps | Jerub: bashiok is insane but funny |
| 06:19.38 | Lulia | He'd have to have the greatest freaking memory known to man |
| 06:19.39 | Lulia | And then some |
| 06:19.44 | Cairenn | I know he did, too |
| 06:19.53 | Arrowmaster | yeah but i have proof |
| 06:20.07 | Shadowed | Do you want to post it Arrowmaster? :p |
| 06:20.09 | Jerub | Kraps: :) |
| 06:20.11 | A-KO | I joked about that with a friend of mine once |
| 06:20.15 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: I CANT! |
| 06:20.17 | Shadowed | oh |
| 06:20.21 | A-KO | coding stuff to use weird names, like "fluffybunny" for functions |
| 06:20.22 | Shadowed | if you want to write what you want to post I can do it for you |
| 06:20.24 | A-KO | but then it got impossible to even code |
| 06:20.26 | A-KO | so I stopped |
| 06:20.29 | Jerub | i was a terror |
| 06:20.45 | Shadowed | or I guess, you're just saying he forgot to local temp9 and luasrcdiet leaves global names alone/ |
| 06:20.47 | Cairenn | Ackis: lol |
| 06:20.59 | Cairenn | look at my response, I hadn't seen yours |
| 06:21.00 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: exactly |
| 06:21.01 | Dagmar | A-Ko: Depends on how twisted you are |
| 06:21.03 | Jerub | i once wrote an entire gui program in java with a single main function, and my goal was to use only 1 ';' in the proram. |
| 06:21.03 | Jerub | i managed it. |
| 06:21.21 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: plus the global function names |
| 06:21.22 | Dagmar | A-KO: I nearly got a kid expelled for stealing my printouts when he turned in an assignment with some of my trademark crazy in it |
| 06:21.24 | A-KO | Dagmar: It got extremely difficult to even read my own coding and following what I was doing...sadly |
| 06:21.29 | A-KO | ouch Dagmar |
| 06:21.37 | Ackis | Cairenn: I saw |
| 06:21.41 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:21.42 | Ackis | likes being unbanned from the forums |
| 06:21.43 | Ackis | :d |
| 06:21.52 | Dagmar | Specifically, a function that culminated in something along the lines of is.it() fukin, soup->yet |
| 06:22.02 | Torhal | Hah |
| 06:22.06 | Shadowed | If you search for "temp9" (line #555ish) you can see that a variable wasn't localed. LuaSrcDiet doesn't rename global variables (that would break code basically). If you actually wrote it with single letter names as you say, we wouldn't see "temp9" and it would be something like t9 or whatnot. |
| 06:22.09 | Dagmar | ...because I was pretty sure someone was stealing my code printouts. |
| 06:22.10 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster ^ that basically what you wanted to sa? |
| 06:22.13 | Shadowed | say even |
| 06:22.16 | Lulia | It's pretty much impossible for most people's minds to even store that sort of information in their head. |
| 06:22.29 | Lulia | Even those that can would still likely have difficult making sense of what they did remember. |
| 06:22.40 | Dagmar | I've written code like that, and it's not the way *sane and rational* humans program |
| 06:22.50 | NeoTron | GearScore was banned by Blizz? |
| 06:22.57 | Cairenn | no |
| 06:23.00 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: yes, but mention translateAch and tGCS too |
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| 06:23.05 | Jerub | NeoTron: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1305770883 |
| 06:23.36 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster tGCS isn't obfuscated? |
| 06:23.49 | Arrowmaster | maybe but i think thats the original name |
| 06:24.03 | Arrowmaster | but the other one is a good one to mention |
| 06:24.20 | Ackis | is going to get his Cataclysm |
| 06:24.23 | Ackis | catajisms |
| 06:24.30 | kd3 | lol |
| 06:24.31 | Ackis | catagasms |
| 06:25.12 | Shadowed | there you go Arrowmaster |
| 06:25.17 | Arrowmaster | ah ha, i was wondering why a1 was the only two character variable name i saw, its a global too |
| 06:25.32 | Arrowmaster | so he really did use crap variables like a1 in the original code |
| 06:28.10 | Shadowed | I'm not that surprised |
| 06:28.21 | Shadowed | but I don't think even he is insane enough to use no whitespace or linebreaks |
| 06:28.38 | Shadowed | he claimed the lack of whitespace was because I was looking at it on notepad and he's on osx and needed a more advanced editor |
| 06:28.42 | Shadowed | (I'm using Textmate on OSX) |
| 06:28.43 | Shadowed | hehe |
| 06:29.04 | Arrowmaster | i ran it through luac and found all his globals |
| 06:29.11 | Shadowed | I love luac |
| 06:29.15 | Arrowmaster | he is setting r,g,b |
| 06:29.48 | Torhal | OMFG |
| 06:29.54 | Torhal | He's STILL going on about whitsepace |
| 06:29.55 | Shadowed | well, apparently he sent me a version with whitespace removed |
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| 06:30.01 | Shadowed | I'm not sure how you remove whats not there |
| 06:30.04 | Shadowed | but I guess will find out |
| 06:30.06 | Torhal | Hah |
| 06:30.06 | Lulia | >.> |
| 06:30.34 | Arrowmaster | he probably did sed "s/;/;\n/g" on it like he told me to do |
| 06:32.09 | kd3 | looks for more popcorn |
| 06:32.20 | kd3 | he just keeps digging himself deeper |
| 06:32.32 | Shadowed | I'm glad we manage to have at least one good bout of addon drama an expansion |
| 06:32.35 | Shadowed | it keeps things interesting |
| 06:32.48 | Lulia | :( |
| 06:33.14 | Dagmar | Jesus I'd been using that addon before as a ball-park figure, but now i'm learning the author is a dildo. |
| 06:33.16 | Lulia | So glad the guy behind Balance Power Tracker wasn't a jerk |
| 06:33.22 | Dagmar | That does so much more for making me go and nuke it |
| 06:33.29 | Lulia | He even offered use of his own library which he intended to make public for anyone to use |
| 06:33.59 | Lulia | Though I simply created my own system without really looking at his and giving him credit for the idea anyways. It was a great experience though and he was really supportive of spreading it. |
| 06:34.27 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you didnt learn that when the drama of GearScoreBreaker happened? |
| 06:34.41 | Lulia | Oh man, that thread was epic |
| 06:34.41 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: No, I didn't |
| 06:34.47 | Jerub | trolls the thread |
| 06:34.52 | Dagmar | I take it the guy threw a tantrum about it? |
| 06:35.11 | Jerub | i also used too many commas |
| 06:35.13 | Shadowed | "there are 5 of us going over it right now using CTRL-H to rename the variables." |
| 06:35.50 | Lulia | >.> |
| 06:36.12 | Shadowed | Hilarity ensures! |
| 06:36.13 | Arrowmaster | i wonder what his excuse is going to be able PlayerScore being obfuscated |
| 06:36.23 | Jerub | sorry, yeah, that was really tragic grammar there. i'm ashamed. |
| 06:36.25 | Lulia | I could probably be here all night following this, but, in the end, I don't need to. Sorry that you guys have to put up with it. Hopefully you are finding some sort of amusement >.> |
| 06:36.30 | Shadowed | I don't think they are submitting PlayerScore to sites |
| 06:36.39 | Shadowed | I think GS is supposed to be the hook to get people onto PS |
| 06:36.48 | Dagmar | I can't help but suspect the unfortunate result is that someone's going to go "Hey... that looks like MY code in there!" |
| 06:36.50 | Lulia | PlayerScore? |
| 06:37.01 | Shadowed | http://tentonhammer.com/playerscore/ |
| 06:37.35 | Cairenn | Jerub: are you 'brandi"? |
| 06:37.49 | Dagmar | So the thing to do once the five of them finish with "ctrl-H" will be to run it through luasrcdiet |
| 06:38.26 | Jerub | cariyes. |
| 06:38.29 | Dagmar | He uses Dreamweaver? |
| 06:38.46 | Dagmar | >.< |
| 06:38.48 | Jerub | Cairenn: i just replied. this is so awesome. |
| 06:38.49 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: then post the diff between that and the original submitted to us and show that he did infact use LuaSrcDiet |
| 06:38.59 | Cairenn | Jerub: ARE you "Brandi" in the thread? |
| 06:39.06 | Jerub | Cairenn: yes, i'm brandi. |
| 06:39.07 | Cide | okay guys |
| 06:39.09 | Cide | what did I miss |
| 06:39.13 | Jerub | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1305770883?page=2#26 |
| 06:39.13 | Shadowed | Cide hilarity |
| 06:39.15 | Shadowed | lots of it |
| 06:39.20 | Arrowmaster | Cide: GearScore 4.0 |
| 06:39.21 | Cide | that much I can tell |
| 06:39.21 | Jerub | Cide: i'm being a horrible horrible person. |
| 06:39.23 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Nah... Someone already declared my form of retribution was inhumane |
| 06:39.24 | Torhal | Cide: I blew up teh intarnetz |
| 06:39.30 | Cairenn | Jerub - the thread was actually being civilized, you didn't /have/ to troll it |
| 06:39.40 | Cairenn | he's actually trying to be somewhat reasonable now :p |
| 06:39.56 | Shadowed | stop trolling it |
| 06:39.57 | Shadowed | you aren't helping |
| 06:39.59 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: besides the lying through his fucking teeth? |
| 06:40.02 | Jerub | Cairenn: i can't help myself. :( |
| 06:40.04 | Shadowed | Yes he's dumb |
| 06:40.10 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I wanted to humiliate him long ago, just for lying about the whitespace |
| 06:40.24 | Jerub | okay, i'm logging out so i'm not tempted again |
| 06:40.27 | Arrowmaster | he is trying his hardest to deny that he used LuaSrcDiet without actually denying it after we called him out on it |
| 06:40.28 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:40.59 | Cairenn | you can actually use LuaSrcDiet on your addon to just remove the whitespace and Blizz will be okay with that |
| 06:41.03 | Torhal | The variable flip-flopping is clearly an extra attempt at obfuscation. Like he ran it through LuaSrcDiet and then fucked with the results too. |
| 06:41.04 | Cairenn | had that discussion with them too |
| 06:41.36 | Cairenn | they would prefer that whitespace not be removed, but that one isn't /such/ a big deal |
| 06:41.47 | Cairenn | code is still readable, if you know how to read code in the first place |
| 06:43.09 | Cairenn | (and guys, you know me, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and choose to try to believe them when it appears that they might actually be making a good faith effort to 'fix' something :p ) |
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| 06:43.31 | Arrowmaster | i see no effort to fix anything |
| 06:43.41 | Cide | I only see effort to hide his true intentions |
| 06:44.22 | Cide | that's hilarious in any case |
| 06:44.22 | Torhal | I can't even attempt to understand his code with those variable names and re-defining what the variables refer to willy-nilly |
| 06:44.46 | Torhal | There's no way that's maintained in that form. |
| 06:45.02 | Jerub | what's control-h anyway? |
| 06:45.07 | Cide | search and replace |
| 06:45.20 | Jerub | ah. |
| 06:45.58 | Jerub | still. i'm sorry about my poor grammar. |
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| 06:47.16 | Dagmar | It's okay man, she's at peace now. |
| 06:47.38 | Dagmar | We know you didn't mean to push her down those stairs. |
| 06:48.04 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:49.05 | bluspacecow | HEY GUISE ANYONE 85 YET ? |
| 06:49.49 | Nobgul | bluspacecow, I herd there was a mob giving quest exp per kill |
| 06:49.56 | Nobgul | and someone said they were 84 already |
| 06:50.15 | Nobgul | Hye bluspacecow, Do you have the patch for all the sound files in game ? |
| 06:50.15 | bluspacecow | you gots armorys ? |
| 06:50.26 | bluspacecow | my little text file ? |
| 06:50.28 | bluspacecow | no |
| 06:50.31 | Nobgul | bluspacecow, That info was not provided. |
| 06:50.33 | bluspacecow | i is noob :( |
| 06:50.39 | Nobgul | bluspacecow, I ment where each sound is at. |
| 06:50.43 | Dagmar | WTF is with Sporeling Snacks. |
| 06:50.46 | bluspacecow | i don't know how to anymore :( |
| 06:50.50 | Nobgul | ah damn |
| 06:50.51 | Jerub | do they give 81 to kingslayers automtically? or do i have to level? |
| 06:50.52 | bluspacecow | my tools don't works nows ! |
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| 06:51.03 | Dagmar | "Use: Instantly makes your pet happier." |
| 06:51.08 | Nobgul | I could really use them. If you happen upon a copy could you pm me here or on the site please |
| 06:51.26 | Dagmar | Translation: "Use: Gives your pet 10 happiness and you a feeling of profound stupidity for having bothered." |
| 06:51.36 | Dagmar | Seriously. Ten. |
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| 06:53.52 | bluspacecow | heh nob |
| 06:54.05 | bluspacecow | i put the instructions to do it out there ... outdated admitedly |
| 06:54.15 | bluspacecow | i also have a co-author on my project |
| 06:54.24 | bluspacecow | he could of updated for me but hasn't :( |
| 06:54.40 | bluspacecow | if someone want to take it up send me a PM and I make you co-author yes ? |
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| 06:55.11 | Shadowed | Interesting enough Arrowmaster |
| 06:55.16 | Shadowed | he just managed to 'find' the version |
| 06:55.19 | Shadowed | with the real variable names |
| 06:55.24 | Torhal | ... |
| 06:56.14 | Yssaril | still say ban him for lying |
| 06:56.24 | Shadowed | He really did write it as a1 thought Arrowmaster |
| 06:57.02 | Arrowmaster | did you run the first one through luac too? |
| 06:57.03 | Nobgul | bluspacecow, Ill look into the mpq's later |
| 06:57.15 | Shadowed | no I'm lazy |
| 06:57.16 | Nobgul | I used to extract them a long time ago |
| 06:57.25 | Shadowed | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.28 | Shadowed | if you want to poke around |
| 06:57.29 | Arrowmaster | there was about 10 globals used |
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| 06:57.44 | Shadowed | basically iut's normal code now, except for the final part of GetPVP/EScore |
| 06:58.18 | Shadowed | I'm not sure if the final part is cause he can't code, or he's purposely trying to make it harder to understand the 'formula' |
| 06:58.46 | Shadowed | Interestingly enough |
| 06:58.54 | Shadowed | 5 people were able to do all of that in 25 minutes |
| 06:59.24 | Jerub | puts his fish knife away. |
| 06:59.58 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/140664/guild-level-cap-enforcement for people who got a ton of guild xp |
| 07:00.13 | Arrowmaster | that final part is also the only part thats indented with spaces instead of tabs |
| 07:00.34 | Arrowmaster | im guessing it got copied in from elsewhere |
| 07:00.47 | Shadowed | heh |
| 07:00.48 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure |
| 07:00.53 | Shadowed | he breaks other inspection addons with his new gearscore |
| 07:01.06 | Lulia | Really? O.o |
| 07:01.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah i noticed he hooked InspectUnit earlier |
| 07:01.11 | Lulia | Isn't that a bit malicious? |
| 07:01.24 | Yssaril | does he break normal inspection (blizz code)? |
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| 07:01.39 | Shadowed | if incompetence was malicious |
| 07:01.41 | Shadowed | we would have a lot less addons |
| 07:01.51 | Lulia | Well |
| 07:01.56 | Lulia | Malicious is in the intent |
| 07:02.07 | Shadowed | What I said is still accurate :P |
| 07:02.12 | Lulia | :P |
| 07:02.16 | Cide | so |
| 07:02.17 | Shadowed | His is the easiest way to do what he's trying to do, it's not malicious, it's just bad |
| 07:02.22 | Lulia | Then you should be able to point it out as a problem and he should fix it! |
| 07:02.30 | Lulia | :D |
| 07:02.44 | Shadowed | He's pretty much going to stomp over any addons that load before GS thought |
| 07:02.48 | Shadowed | and uses inspection |
| 07:02.51 | KarlKFI | Shirik: what was that cvar to download the cata stuff? |
| 07:03.00 | Shirik | accountType |
| 07:03.03 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.03 | Shirik | set it to "CT" |
| 07:03.33 | Lulia | Ah well, I need some sleep |
| 07:03.44 | Lulia | My new version is up, I'm sure people will have bugs for me in the morning! |
| 07:03.47 | Lulia | Night all |
| 07:04.24 | Cairenn | night Lulia|Sleep |
| 07:05.09 | Torhal | If he didn't want to be so obvious about lying, he should have gotten that copy to you next week. Gah. |
| 07:05.34 | KarlKFI | what do you do to start downloading? |
| 07:05.43 | KarlKFI | launcher? |
| 07:06.05 | Torhal | KarlKFI: Yah |
| 07:06.29 | KarlKFI | should it only be like 1gb past 4.0's content? |
| 07:07.00 | Jerub | 800mb or so |
| 07:07.02 | Jerub | apparently. |
| 07:07.12 | Yssaril | yea 850ish |
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| 07:14.25 | Jerub | oh yeah, it's hitting in 45 minutes, oceanic realms are on sydney time, which has daylight savings |
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| 07:15.42 | |Jelly| | [01:05]<KarlKFI>what do you do to start downloading? <-- |
| 07:16.09 | KarlKFI | set the cvar, quit the game and launch the launcher |
| 07:16.21 | |Jelly| | Did that and it didn't download anything. |
| 07:16.23 | KarlKFI | didn't seem to take the first time i openned the launcher |
| 07:16.46 | KarlKFI | so i tried opennign the pdater and the downloader and then the launcher again and then it worked |
| 07:16.52 | KarlKFI | not sure what combo does it |
| 07:17.12 | |Jelly| | Alright |
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| 07:18.01 | |Jelly| | Nothing to download. Nothing to patch. Am I stupid because I have a disc copy and nothing to download? lol |
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| 07:26.02 | zenzio | so I've been waiting for this cataclysm everyone's talking about, but on my way to work today I didn't see any sign of difference :( |
| 07:29.17 | Vandesdelca32 | I went and bought a disc copy so I could has a disc... |
| 07:29.32 | Ackis | where do I redeem my wow game code? |
| 07:29.46 | Vandesdelca32 | On your battle.net account? |
| 07:29.53 | kd3 | https://us.battle.net/account/management/add-game.html |
| 07:29.53 | Ackis | yeah can't find the input for it |
| 07:29.57 | kd3 | swap us for eu as appropriate |
| 07:30.05 | Vandesdelca32 | Yp |
| 07:30.08 | kd3 | put those links on the wiki's front page |
| 07:30.08 | Ackis | ty |
| 07:41.40 | Mirrormn | so, what actually happens when cata goes live? does the server restart? |
| 07:41.52 | Ackis | who's brandi? |
| 07:41.57 | Ackis | on the gearscore thread? |
| 07:42.37 | Mirrormn | the europeans must be too busy playing to answer my questions :( |
| 07:42.51 | kd3 | Mirrormn, you will need to get to the login screen and relog |
| 07:43.00 | kd3 | along with everyone else still up trying to do the same thing |
| 07:43.04 | kd3 | in... 17 minuets |
| 07:43.14 | Mirrormn | sounds like a blast |
| 07:43.26 | zenzio | isn't Cataclysm live in the US yet? |
| 07:43.30 | Ackis | ~kd3++ |
| 07:43.33 | kd3 | in... 16:30 |
| 07:43.36 | Ackis | zenzio: 17 more minues |
| 07:43.46 | zenzio | hm, I must have been thinking about the wrong time zone |
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| 07:44.10 | |Jelly| | The one night my internet decides to fuck up. |
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| 07:45.51 | zenzio | |Jelly|: so the cataclysm hit your ISP \o/ |
| 07:46.04 | |Jelly| | Indeed |
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| 07:46.25 | |Jelly| | Congrats AT&T ... a huge, imaginary, cartoon dragon took out your internets. |
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| 07:49.37 | Mirrormn | oh also |
| 07:49.47 | Mirrormn | does the trainer in Dalaran teach azeroth flying? |
| 07:49.58 | kd3 | I sure hope so |
| 07:50.07 | kd3 | that's where I'm camped out at, because sw's a disaster |
| 07:50.10 | Mirrormn | oh god |
| 07:50.20 | Mirrormn | there's like 300 people on top of her on my server |
| 07:50.22 | kd3 | actually, wait. I'm going to k3 |
| 07:50.23 | Mirrormn | that's rough |
| 07:51.41 | kd3 | har. nobody at k3's flight trainer |
| 07:51.43 | kd3 | chuckles |
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| 07:53.00 | Mirrormn | what's the API function to interact with the NPC you're currently targeting? |
| 07:53.23 | kd3 | it's a keybind |
| 07:53.34 | kd3 | the api call is protected |
| 07:53.43 | Vandesdelca32 | *nods* I bound it to ] |
| 07:53.55 | Mirrormn | it's in the keybind menu? |
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| 07:53.59 | NeoTron | I'm in shadowmoon valley |
| 07:54.05 | kd3 | yes, interact with target |
| 07:54.11 | bleetah | seriously, the person who put a singular cata flight NPC in each faction needs to go back, watch the launch of BC, then if they still don't understand my derision - get their head read. Or a new career. |
| 07:54.13 | NeoTron | there's like 3 level 80s in the zone |
| 07:54.29 | bleetah | it's not even launch yet, and I can't see the flight master from all the players hanging around GAH |
| 07:54.44 | NeoTron | bleetah: just go somewhere else, traind and hearth |
| 07:54.46 | Vandesdelca32 | Horde can /tar Maz to get her. |
| 07:55.03 | bleetah | dunno who's more tardish, the tards standing around the NPC or the tard who put it there ;) |
| 07:55.19 | Mirrormn | lovely |
| 07:55.20 | Mirrormn | thanks |
| 07:55.20 | zenzio | bleetah: he should also look at the Isle of Quel'Danas vendor thing |
| 07:55.33 | Vandesdelca32 | The tards standing around the NPC on thier mammoths, cause heaven forbid if they miss a [Realm First! Yada Yada] Achievement chance? |
| 07:55.35 | bleetah | Vandesdelca32: there's somekeybinding tingie, but... afaik that is new and hasn't been widely advertised |
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| 07:55.48 | Vandesdelca32 | It's actually on the keybinds list in the game. |
| 07:55.52 | kd3 | nobody at k3. I suspect nobody at sholazar, shadowmoon, hellfire... |
| 07:55.56 | NeoTron | Vandesdelca32: people going for realm first wouldn't be standing in org |
| 07:56.00 | Xyphoid | 1 person at k3 for me |
| 07:56.00 | Vandesdelca32 | "Interact with Mouseover" and "Interact with Target" |
| 07:56.12 | bleetah | Vandesdelca32: I must've missed that Feature in the Changelog ;) |
| 07:56.12 | NeoTron | Vandesdelca32: most likely sit in an off-location like I am, hearth to everlook, fly to hyjal and gai a few minutes ahead of the pack |
| 07:56.14 | Mirrormn | "singular cata flight npc" does that mean the other flight trainers will not sell azeroth flying? |
| 07:56.16 | zenzio | suspects kd3 goes to K3 just for the name |
| 07:56.23 | Ackis | Having trouble interacting with a WoW NPC? Bind "Interact With Target" to a key (Key Bindings -> Targeting Functions). |
| 07:56.43 | Ackis | bleetah: ^ |
| 07:56.45 | bleetah | Mirrormn: correct |
| 07:56.47 | kd3 | s/everlook/moonglade/ |
| 07:56.48 | Vandesdelca32 | Honestly, I just want to play... |
| 07:57.02 | Mirrormn | bleetah: you know this cause you're on EU? |
| 07:57.04 | Vandesdelca32 | Fly around like an idiot, and start leveling in Vashj'ir. |
| 07:57.13 | bleetah | Ackis: still gotta know the name of the NPC to /target it. Isn't precisely easy. |
| 07:57.32 | bleetah | well kinda is, but the nameplates do tend to jump around lots |
| 07:57.39 | bleetah | unless I've missed some other UI enhancement |
| 07:58.04 | Ackis | npc is maztha in org :P |
| 07:58.27 | bleetah | anyways, it's not so much the binding thing and targetting |
| 07:58.39 | bleetah | it's putting everyone in the same spot in the same zone that's the dodgy thing, asking for trouble |
| 07:58.40 | kd3 | 90ish seconds |
| 07:58.51 | zenzio | can't you just turn on minimap tracking for trainers to see the name of the NPC? |
| 07:59.11 | bleetah | it's one of the two things that Blizz announced that they learned from BC 'don't encourage everyone to be in one place when we hit GO' |
| 07:59.12 | zenzio | or am I misremembering how that works |
| 07:59.13 | kd3 | huh, login server hasn't died yet |
| 08:00.01 | bleetah | zenzio: it's not the targetting that's the issue, it's the server overload and subsequent crash. Happened in EU. Expect same in US. ALso happened BC. THey learned for Wrath, but forgot again for Cata. |
| 08:00.05 | bleetah | is just the lolz, tbh |
| 08:00.39 | Cide | so what's the rundown |
| 08:00.47 | Cide | do we have to log out and back in to get the good stuff? |
| 08:00.50 | bleetah | Cide: rundown is it's all cog|work's fault |
| 08:00.54 | kd3 | if you're logged in, log out to deathy and log back in |
| 08:00.59 | zenzio | bleetah: I was simply commenting on <bleetah> Ackis: still gotta know the name of the NPC to /target it |
| 08:01.07 | |Jelly| | GAME ON! |
| 08:01.24 | bleetah | haha realm crash |
| 08:01.28 | Cide | and boom |
| 08:01.31 | Cide | connecting |
| 08:01.33 | |Jelly| | Great success! |
| 08:01.39 | Cide | hey it got past connecting |
| 08:01.40 | |Jelly| | Stuck at connected for ~10 seconds |
| 08:01.46 | Cide | success! |
| 08:02.08 | Cide | failure...? |
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| 08:02.18 | Mirrormn | my server's not doin it :( |
| 08:02.25 | zenzio | I wonder if the EU servers will take another hit in about seven to eight ours, when people get home from work |
| 08:02.27 | kd3 | ooh, the message just appeared for medivh |
| 08:02.33 | zenzio | *hours |
| 08:02.34 | Ackis | some rogue killed hte flight trainer |
| 08:02.37 | Xinhuan | uh for you EU ppl |
| 08:02.41 | Xinhuan | when you relog for cata |
| 08:02.50 | Xinhuan | do u need to log out completely, or just to char screen? |
| 08:02.56 | kd3 | all the way to deathwing |
| 08:03.00 | Jamash | from what I hear you have to exit the client |
| 08:03.10 | kd3 | and down goes the login server |
| 08:03.15 | Xinhuan | that's why i asking the EU ppl lol |
| 08:03.16 | Cide | confirm or deny Jamash? |
| 08:03.21 | Jamash | I could be wrong though |
| 08:04.06 | kd3 | just to deathwing |
| 08:04.08 | kd3 | just got it |
| 08:04.17 | Cide | when do you get it? |
| 08:04.20 | kd3 | now for EK to crash |
| 08:04.22 | Cide | when logging in to your character? |
| 08:04.31 | Cide | or after char select |
| 08:04.52 | kd3 | get what? I got cold weather flying off the vendor, then just ported to stormwind to get the new quest |
| 08:05.00 | Cide | oh nvm |
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| 08:05.04 | kd3 | you will have to go to deathwing and log back in |
| 08:05.17 | Cide | stuck logging in to game server here |
| 08:05.21 | Cairenn | same |
| 08:05.26 | kd3 | zomg flying in stormwind |
| 08:05.33 | Cide | can we vote to ban kd3? |
| 08:05.36 | Xyphoid | jumped the gun :( |
| 08:05.44 | bleetah1 | Cide++ |
| 08:06.03 | Jamash | I'm at "Success!" |
| 08:06.44 | Jamash | I think I'm going to go make a sandwich |
| 08:06.51 | Dagmar | I'm looking at the textless Cancel box |
| 08:07.02 | Nobgul | mine just poped |
| 08:07.06 | nebula169 | it'll see be you've been disconnected |
| 08:07.10 | nebula169 | soon* |
| 08:07.11 | bleetah1 | us.battle.net has gone 503 hahaha |
| 08:07.21 | Xinhuan | gogogogoggogo |
| 08:07.24 | kd3 | christ. someone's already hit illustrious cooking |
| 08:07.29 | Dagmar | We're officially murdering the login servers. W00t! |
| 08:07.33 | bleetah1 | had to wait for launch to move a toon from my Collector Edition account to my other |
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| 08:08.07 | Nobgul | im stuck |
| 08:08.14 | Nobgul | bleh |
| 08:08.54 | Dagmar | rocks back and forth |
| 08:08.55 | bleetah | u know shit's busted when the custom 503 doesn't get served |
| 08:09.15 | bleetah | oh wait, there it is... finally |
| 08:09.25 | Jamash | I'm in and I bought old weather flying |
| 08:10.41 | Dagmar | lol |
| 08:11.30 | Sintacks | pics or no proof |
| 08:12.21 | Dagmar | Opheria already got logged back in and picked up Archaeology |
| 08:12.24 | Dagmar | @#$@$@ |
| 08:13.18 | ReAn | lol, wow |
| 08:13.24 | A-KO | omg |
| 08:13.26 | A-KO | is there a way to like |
| 08:13.27 | ReAn | auth servers just cratered |
| 08:13.28 | A-KO | click the flight vendor? |
| 08:13.32 | ReAn | yes |
| 08:13.35 | ReAn | go to your binds |
| 08:13.41 | ReAn | bind a key to "Interact with target" |
| 08:13.54 | ReAn | then type /tar Bra if you're alliance |
| 08:13.58 | ReAn | and press that bind |
| 08:14.04 | ReAn | no idea what the horde dude's name is |
| 08:14.12 | zenzio | aren't we all targetting the bras |
| 08:14.30 | ReAn | anyone else stuck @ connecting? |
| 08:15.47 | Cairenn | everyone ;) |
| 08:15.57 | Sintacks | everyone |
| 08:16.00 | Cairenn | the servers just did the "Cata's now live, relog!" |
| 08:16.01 | Sintacks | in the US |
| 08:16.08 | ReAn | yeah i know |
| 08:16.19 | Maldivia | Cairenn: yeah, but no xp from kills/quests :/ |
| 08:16.22 | Cairenn | so everyone and their dog logged out and is now trying to log back in |
| 08:16.25 | ReAn | i think blizz needed more horizontal scaling |
| 08:16.54 | Sintacks | Maldivia, have you restarted and logged AFTER the server told you Cata stuff is live? |
| 08:16.59 | Dagmar | HAH |
| 08:17.01 | Dagmar | Got in |
| 08:17.03 | bleetah | ReAn: I think blizz need to ditch 'relog to go live' for a start (and the single desirable NPC) |
| 08:17.04 | Xyphoid | woo in |
| 08:17.09 | Maldivia | Sintacks: yep, was killing in hyjal, flying around etc |
| 08:17.37 | Ycarene | Ugh, I really wanna kill deathwing now. |
| 08:17.49 | ReAn | Ycarene: he just eat your face? |
| 08:17.52 | cbreak_work | single? |
| 08:17.59 | bleetah | oh, hmmm.. us.battle.net has just 503'd again. |
| 08:18.11 | ReAn | sooooooooooo glad i upgraded online |
| 08:18.21 | Ycarene | No, I've been staring at him for like 10 minutes now, trying to log in. |
| 08:18.25 | ReAn | id hate to be getting home now and needing to upgrade |
| 08:18.44 | nevcairiel | yesterday in EU, the battle.net page worked |
| 08:18.49 | nevcairiel | login servers didnt |
| 08:18.51 | ReAn | i guess ill go back to programming |
| 08:18.53 | Ackis | someone got realm first cooking already |
| 08:18.54 | nevcairiel | so everyone ended up doing the same |
| 08:19.03 | Ycarene | I'm gonna go do that quest in the badlands just so I can punch him in the face. |
| 08:19.36 | kd3 | crap. still not getting xp |
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| 08:20.02 | krka | blizzard needs more web scale! |
| 08:20.33 | Ycarene | More players in us/oceanic |
| 08:20.41 | bleetah | this is promising, I log in via the web to my battle.net to do some transfer foo, and it takes me to account creation. |
| 08:21.02 | bleetah | i'm like 'whoa, didn't I just log in with one' haha |
| 08:21.09 | Ycarene | Woot! |
| 08:23.13 | A-KO | they might have to reboot servers |
| 08:23.22 | Maldivia | kd3: same here :/ |
| 08:23.29 | Jamash | well, I bought archaeology training |
| 08:23.31 | Maldivia | kd3: what realm? |
| 08:23.36 | Jamash | and then crashed |
| 08:23.40 | Jamash | and I can't get back in |
| 08:23.50 | Dagmar | Wow |
| 08:23.50 | Dagmar | Servers are HELLA lagged |
| 08:23.50 | Dagmar | I'm waiting many seconds to buy skill upgrades |
| 08:24.21 | kd3 | medivh |
| 08:24.46 | Xinhuan | all US servers bugged zzz |
| 08:24.49 | ReAn | woot |
| 08:24.51 | ReAn | CONNECTED |
| 08:25.36 | Arrowmaster | im going to go watch Castle while you guys play with your little game |
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| 08:29.14 | kd3 | xp fixed |
| 08:30.17 | Dagmar | Whoa. Comcast screwed me over, but I managed to log right back in |
| 08:30.18 | Dagmar | COol |
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| 08:45.26 | Jamash | my ETA is going up, not down |
| 08:45.52 | Jamash | actually it's bouncing around between 25 and 40 min |
| 08:46.20 | zenzio | it's an estimate, those are allowed to go in both directions |
| 08:46.22 | Jamash | this is what I get for playing on a launch server :-/ |
| 08:49.27 | Cairenn | already 2 server firsts on my realm - illustrious herbalism & illustrious miner |
| 08:49.44 | NeoTron | omg sea turtle |
| 08:49.48 | NeoTron | it's moving at super speed |
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| 08:52.37 | Xyphoid | yeah herb just popped up for me |
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| 09:38.58 | Sintacks | Cairenn, what realm are you on? |
| 09:39.20 | Sintacks | we've had hear, sink and mining |
| 09:39.23 | Sintacks | herb* |
| 09:39.27 | Sintacks | on Area 52 |
| 09:40.41 | Cairenn | Kirin Tor |
| 09:41.00 | Cairenn | we've had skinner now, too |
| 09:41.15 | Dagmar | Well, Baron Geddon gets my vote for NPC Of The Year |
| 09:41.54 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: what level are you up to? |
| 09:42.03 | Cairenn | got this girl up to 71 |
| 09:42.19 | Cairenn | she was 54 when I started last Wed |
| 09:43.19 | Adys | http://www.wowhead.com/quest=27141 |
| 09:43.21 | Adys | woah woah woah |
| 09:43.22 | Adys | woah. |
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| 09:43.46 | kd3 | uldum++ |
| 09:43.51 | kd3 | they do that the entire zone |
| 09:44.03 | Adys | I meant about the quest name. |
| 09:44.05 | Cairenn | yeah, that's got to be like my fav zone |
| 09:44.14 | Cairenn | in the expansion |
| 09:44.36 | bluspacecow | cokebot: [ant]: I use Firefox and IE depending on what I need done. For example if I need malware, I use IE. |
| 09:44.48 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 09:57.04 | Xyphoid | haha realm first angler |
| 09:57.30 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP-YLUU7-UE&feature=player_embedded#at=12 HOT SALSA DOG |
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| 09:57.55 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 10:02.09 | Cairenn | okay, 38 hrs straight is more than enough, g'night guys |
| 10:02.25 | karl_w_w | frostmourne is full. position in queue: 3278 |
| 10:02.25 | nevcairiel | you're doing it wrong |
| 10:02.37 | nevcairiel | you're supposed to play 38 hours from release, not 38 hours before it |
| 10:02.42 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 10:04.56 | Cairenn|afk | it had a little something to do with having had no heat all weekend, then having the guys here all day (yesterday, technically) putting in the new furnace |
| 10:05.30 | nevcairiel | ow :( |
| 10:05.36 | nevcairiel | sleep well, hopefully warm now :) |
| 10:10.12 | Kalroth | you should just have called out for a snuggle! |
| 10:12.53 | Nobgul | DO NOT KILL RUNTY IN THE BRD DUNGEON |
| 10:13.07 | Dagmar | WHy not? |
| 10:13.13 | Nobgul | Berserk hard mode |
| 10:13.19 | Dagmar | ORLY? |
| 10:13.29 | Nobgul | Killing her smaller baby "Runty", activates her Berserk mode, which is the same as most raid bosses wipe mechanic (+500% damage, +150% movement speed and taunt immunity). |
| 10:13.45 | Nobgul | bad bad juju lol |
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| 10:15.36 | Nobgul | anyone hear anything about maint |
| 10:15.37 | Nobgul | ? |
| 10:17.39 | Dagmar | No maintenance. |
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| 10:22.35 | ReAn | anyone know if there's a rested zone in vashjir? |
| 10:25.40 | oschoen | isnt there an innkeeper right away in this first boat ? |
| 10:28.08 | ReAn | no rested when im there :/ |
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| 10:29.04 | Jamash | zzz |
| 10:29.04 | Yoshimo | mhmm, if your guild has all slots in the guildbank already, why doesnt wow give a guildachievement for this? |
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| 10:42.11 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 10:42.13 | Shirik | I'm a checkuser now |
| 10:42.18 | Shirik | but not really |
| 10:42.32 | Shirik | I blocked someone, suspected an IP as being him, and then noticed the IP said "change block" instead of the typical "block" |
| 10:42.35 | Shirik | so I knew the autoblock hit him :) |
| 10:43.11 | airtonix | shirik, you are not czech |
| 10:43.19 | Shirik | I am aware of that |
| 10:43.22 | Shirik | but thank you for informing me |
| 10:43.29 | airtonix | you are welcome |
| 10:47.13 | Cide | I too am a checkuser |
| 10:47.19 | Cide | but now that you know I will have to kill you |
| 10:47.35 | Shirik | Cide |
| 10:47.37 | Shirik | why are you awake so late? |
| 10:47.48 | Cide | so late it's almost noon |
| 10:47.53 | Shirik | I know! |
| 10:47.58 | Shirik | I'd be asleep |
| 10:48.00 | Cide | oh wait I went to bed and woke up |
| 10:48.10 | Cide | like regular people do, for once |
| 10:49.19 | Shirik | what |
| 10:49.24 | Shirik | regular people wake up at noon |
| 10:49.24 | airtonix | this is most irregular |
| 10:49.31 | Shirik | that's why we made the clock start there |
| 10:49.35 | Shirik | and then it goes around |
| 10:50.14 | Cide | yes |
| 10:50.18 | Cide | I woke up at 7am myself today |
| 10:50.24 | Cide | instead of going to bed at that time |
| 10:50.44 | Shirik | omg |
| 10:50.46 | Shirik | last week of classes |
| 10:50.47 | Shirik | EVER |
| 10:50.52 | Cide | go you |
| 10:50.53 | Shirik | like |
| 10:50.54 | Shirik | wtf |
| 10:50.56 | Cide | I have 3.5 more years |
| 10:51.07 | Shirik | ok seriously I'm going to sleep |
| 10:51.07 | Shirik | night |
| 10:51.11 | Cide | night |
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| 11:05.33 | jnwhiteh | WHy didn't i think to herbalise only |
| 11:05.38 | jnwhiteh | miner in my guild |
| 11:05.41 | jnwhiteh | selling bars for 80g per bar |
| 11:05.43 | jnwhiteh | he has 200 ore |
| 11:05.46 | jnwhiteh | that's 320k gold. |
| 11:06.09 | airtonix | drugs always in more demand than stones |
| 11:06.15 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:07.46 | Xyphoid | hm, no herbs on the ah at all here |
| 11:07.47 | Xyphoid | sweet |
| 11:07.52 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 11:07.53 | jnwhiteh | i have stacks |
| 11:08.04 | jnwhiteh | just hven't been focusing on it |
| 11:08.34 | Xyphoid | let's set a baseline |
| 11:09.41 | airtonix | no |
| 11:10.24 | Thrae | Is Cataclysm opening up 7am PST or 7am local? |
| 11:13.15 | Legorol | neither, it opened up at 12m already |
| 11:13.26 | Legorol | *12am |
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| 11:14.37 | Thrae | Oh. |
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| 11:14.43 | airtonix | deeper |
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| 11:14.55 | Shirik | so um |
| 11:14.59 | airtonix | i mean |
| 11:15.07 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlockList |
| 11:15.08 | Shirik | Victory? |
| 11:15.12 | Shirik | TorNodeBot wins |
| 11:18.10 | Xyphoid | so the hyjal portal is a one-off? |
| 11:19.14 | airtonix | possibly |
| 11:19.22 | airtonix | it depends |
| 11:19.49 | Xyphoid | whoops, heading back to sw to train was dumb then heh |
| 11:20.12 | airtonix | ouch |
| 11:29.03 | Cide | Shirik |
| 11:29.06 | Cide | you were going to bed! |
| 11:29.53 | Thrae | Hmmm I've been out of the game for a while...what are the cool kids using these days in addons? |
| 11:30.00 | Cide | ctmod |
| 11:30.09 | Nobgul | Umm |
| 11:30.12 | Thrae | No one uses CTMod |
| 11:30.17 | Nobgul | lol |
| 11:30.17 | Cide | your mom does |
| 11:30.27 | Thrae | I make my Mom's addon packs so no she doesn't |
| 11:30.38 | Cide | I'll pack your mom's addons |
| 11:30.41 | Thrae | Reverse-Burn |
| 11:30.55 | Thrae | Do you use 7zip? |
| 11:31.07 | Cide | possibly |
| 11:31.18 | Thrae | You'd better. |
| 11:34.52 | Thrae | Gah why do I always forget how to use github's web gui. |
| 11:35.09 | Cide | 'cause you don't git it |
| 11:37.28 | airtonix | http://shalafi.stc.cx/1155450403091tom.gif |
| 11:37.35 | airtonix | NSFWF |
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| 11:55.38 | Dagmar | Wow these upgrades are brutal |
| 11:56.04 | airtonix | :( |
| 11:56.08 | airtonix | hey! |
| 11:56.09 | airtonix | i know |
| 11:56.29 | jnwhiteh | I'm missing 18 quests in Vash'ir |
| 11:56.37 | jnwhiteh | not sure how that happened.. but wowhead won't show me what I'm missing |
| 11:56.39 | Zasurus | now "GetTrackingTexture()" doesn't work is there a way to find the type you are tracking? |
| 11:56.42 | airtonix | Dagmar, just re-router the power coupler to the trans-phasic osslication inducer! |
| 11:56.45 | jnwhiteh | so I'll just go to Deepholme |
| 11:57.22 | airtonix | Dagmar, good idea yeah? |
| 11:57.31 | Dagmar | Blue 288s! |
| 11:57.46 | jnwhiteh | now, do I sell my herbs |
| 11:57.48 | jnwhiteh | or hold on to them? |
| 11:57.58 | airtonix | jnwhiteh, synthesise! |
| 11:58.08 | jnwhiteh | i am an alchemist :p |
| 11:58.10 | airtonix | mass production HOO!!! |
| 11:58.27 | airtonix | ill split the profits with you 60/40 |
| 11:59.16 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 11:59.22 | jnwhiteh | stormvine is running 20g an item |
| 11:59.24 | airtonix | ok ok |
| 11:59.26 | airtonix | 70/30 |
| 11:59.32 | jnwhiteh | but there's a bidding war |
| 11:59.43 | airtonix | alright |
| 11:59.49 | airtonix | you can have 15 percent |
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| 12:04.49 | mikma | lol profitable profits |
| 12:04.57 | mikma | go with engineering |
| 12:05.07 | mikma | newer have to worry about selling stuff |
| 12:05.20 | mikma | newer never |
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| 12:06.34 | airtonix | i am newer going admit it |
| 12:06.41 | Thrae | Cool the WotLK screen now shows the new Lich King, post-Arthas. |
| 12:07.03 | mikma | thrae: umm, what? |
| 12:07.03 | nevcairiel | you havent logged in for a while, eh |
| 12:08.00 | mikma | sioraiocht: trololol, more snow today |
| 12:08.28 | airtonix | you liek snow? |
| 12:08.29 | Thrae | Ah only 74 errors. Not bad. |
| 12:13.42 | mikma | sioraiocht: http://mikma.eu/misc/Kuva012.jpg |
| 12:14.26 | mojosdojo | urgh |
| 12:14.54 | mojosdojo | mikma: where are you? |
| 12:15.00 | mikma | mojosdojo: funland! |
| 12:15.08 | mojosdojo | obviously! |
| 12:15.24 | zenzio | "It is no longer possible for an ill-mannered person of the opposing faction to one-shot a flight trainer in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, which in turn made the 500 players standing on top of the flight trainer with their mammoths really sad." |
| 12:15.31 | mikma | brb, work! (need to explode some rocks) |
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| 12:35.35 | sioraiocht | mikma: damn! |
| 12:35.48 | sioraiocht | do you at least get to play in it at all? |
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| 12:55.01 | smcn | so according to the tooltip for guild experience, the only solo activity that contributes is questing? |
| 12:56.31 | airtonix | boring |
| 12:56.49 | airtonix | surely you get more points for headshot ganks? |
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| 13:14.34 | mikma | sioraiocht: nope |
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| 13:16.15 | Lopeppeppy | Fear the power of the Peppy. |
| 13:16.56 | Lopeppeppy | I literally got a "Bwah?" response from the sales clerk when I went to buy my Cataclysm this morning. The very sight of a redheaded female creature attempting to buy a video game terrified him out of his wits. |
| 13:18.12 | karl_w_w | lol |
| 13:19.09 | Lopeppeppy | It was freakin' hilarious. I had to make cute small talk while he fumbled around looking for the big stack of them behind the register. |
| 13:19.41 | airtonix | why you not eat him? |
| 13:20.04 | Lopeppeppy | Already had breakfast, and I'm on a diet. |
| 13:20.09 | airtonix | LIES! |
| 13:20.28 | cbreak_work | what do we learn? Next time: Fake Mustache and a Top Hat. |
| 13:20.39 | airtonix | moar teeth! |
| 13:22.25 | Lopeppeppy | I am a kinder, gentler dino in my retirement, airtonix. |
| 13:22.46 | airtonix | T_T |
| 13:22.50 | airtonix | i don't believe it |
| 13:23.01 | Lopeppeppy | I want to spread goodwill and holiday cheer! That's why I don't smile, so I don't scare them with my teeths. |
| 13:23.37 | airtonix | one day you will be unable to resist |
| 13:23.52 | Lopeppeppy | I know. And then some people are really gonna get eaten. Diet or not. |
| 13:24.50 | karl_w_w | 3.5 hours in queue and im almost there! |
| 13:25.11 | Thrae | Well that was fun. I fell down to someplace near Stormwind Harbor and got stuck -- no way back up. |
| 13:25.22 | Thrae | Anyway, off to an appt. |
| 13:27.19 | airtonix | Thrae, may i offer some advice ? |
| 13:28.21 | cbreak_work | relogging helps I heard. |
| 13:28.25 | cbreak_work | or hearth stoning :) |
| 13:28.29 | Lopeppeppy | You guys scare me, I'm supposed to be able to play this game someday. :) |
| 13:28.42 | airtonix | i was actually going to suggest wearing a kilt |
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| 13:28.59 | airtonix | without underwear |
| 13:30.03 | airtonix | it will definitely give you an advantage in the appointment |
| 13:30.08 | Lopeppeppy | This helps in WoW? |
| 13:30.37 | airtonix | have you never heard of the Scottish Breeze ? |
| 13:32.47 | airtonix | oh gawd |
| 13:32.56 | airtonix | i think i just killed myself |
| 13:33.09 | airtonix | that was a smelly fart |
| 13:33.32 | Lopeppeppy | You're icky. |
| 13:33.59 | airtonix | believe it or not, my most pressing issue is working out what to stop eating in order to prevent such disasters in future |
| 13:35.05 | airtonix | how do dinos deal with such gastric anomalies ? |
| 13:36.00 | Kraps | âUnto Elder Crone Magatha of the Grimtotem, Acting warchief of the Horde, Garrosh Hellscream, Sends his most sincere wishes for a slow and painful death." fuck yeah! |
| 13:36.48 | airtonix | how does that make you feel ? |
| 13:37.46 | Lopeppeppy | It's everyone else's problem, airtonix, not ours! |
| 13:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | But may I suggest some lovely probiotics to balance out the system and help prevent windage? |
| 13:39.35 | Kraps | "So ⦠no. I will not be sending any truehearted orcs to fight alongside your treacherous, belly-crawling tribe." say what you want about Garrosh, he has a way with words |
| 13:40.24 | Lopeppeppy | He's not shy, nope. |
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| 14:00.43 | alestane | I have to say that the people writing hotfix announcements have gotten pretty sassy: "It is no longer possible for an ill-mannered person of the opposing faction to one-shot a flight trainer in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, which in turn made the 500 players standing on top of the flight trainer with their mammoths really sad." |
| 14:01.35 | Lopeppeppy | That write up confuses me... unless people used to stand there waiting to gank the person who came to kill the flight trainer? |
| 14:01.53 | Lopeppeppy | is slow on the uptake this morning! |
| 14:09.40 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: I agree that it's slightly incorrectly worded. I am guessing that it's supposed to mean that the ill-mannered person one-shotting the flight trainer was making the 500 mammoth riders unhapy. |
| 14:09.50 | Legorol | Now the one-shotting is gone, so the mammoth riders are happy |
| 14:09.57 | smcn | alestane: that is awesome. |
| 14:10.28 | alestane | I think it means that the 500 people in large mounts were blocking anyone else from getting to him anyway, whether intentionally or because they all wanted their Flight Master's License. |
| 14:10.31 | smcn | having stood on the dalaran flight master on a mammoth myself i knew exactly what i meant :P |
| 14:10.45 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, so it's a bit of snark at the 500 mammoth riders, who were all blocking the trainer, but complaining about the ONE lonely other side who managed to get there and kill the trainer? |
| 14:10.51 | alestane | "There is no longer a School of Fish in Elwynn Forest that like to think of themselves as in "testing," nor do they yield Peacebloom when fished. This School of Fish is no longer a part of the counterculture and will no longer give you flowers when fished." |
| 14:11.06 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. Fishy flowers would be fun! |
| 14:12.00 | Legorol | Ok I officially hate the Launcher now. It tells me that I need to free up an additional 2.9 Gb disk space. When I do that, the Launcher doesn't do anything, it happily says that WoW is up to date. |
| 14:12.12 | Legorol | So I occupy the space again, and again it is asking me to free it up. |
| 14:12.29 | Legorol | Why does it insist on me keeping a bunch of disk space free, even though WoW is up to date? |
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| 14:12.54 | Lopeppeppy | Hateful. |
| 14:13.10 | Lopeppeppy | I expect to have to clear a bunch of disk space tonight before Cataclysm-izing my baby Griffon. |
| 14:13.11 | smcn | caching |
| 14:13.13 | alestane | So that it can stream/cache stuff? Dunno. |
| 14:14.18 | Lopeppeppy | Cache this, be-otch. |
| 14:14.26 | smcn | a better question is why did i have to download data while i was flying into hyjal thus ruining the flyover due to missing ground textures |
| 14:14.33 | Legorol | smcn: this client is fully updated to Cata and fully cached |
| 14:15.47 | nevcairiel | it'll always download stuff in the background, you can't tell it to just download everything |
| 14:16.10 | nevcairiel | once you've visisted every zone, maybe you'll have everything |
| 14:18.01 | Zasurus | Can an addon cast hunters mark? |
| 14:18.09 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:18.17 | Zasurus | Thanks :) |
| 14:18.56 | Zasurus | What about a macro only casting hunters mark if it doesn't already exist on target? |
| 14:19.15 | nevcairiel | no |
| 14:19.29 | Zasurus | Humm.... Bugger :) |
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| 14:25.03 | alestane | Macros and add-ons can occasionally make things more convenient, or remind you to do stuff, but they're designed not to be able to stop you from screwing up or make you not have to do something yourself anymore. |
| 14:25.36 | Zasurus | Yer I know :) Just wan't sure on that one... ;) |
| 14:25.52 | Zasurus | Not done macro's in a while and now I'm playing my hunter again all his macros are scrued up! LOL |
| 14:26.04 | Zasurus | Worked it out though :) |
| 14:28.08 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/woofers.jpg |
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| 14:28.48 | Lopeppeppy | deadly cute, mikma |
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| 14:33.07 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/machete.jpg |
| 14:34.34 | olafski | lol :D |
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| 14:36.55 | Kaelten | Shadowed: only in the best of ways |
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| 14:44.18 | Napoleone | hmm oour achievemtns doesnt boost guild |
| 14:45.47 | Thunder_Child | "We're aware level 80 characters aren't gaining experience and it's being investigated. " |
| 14:45.49 | Thunder_Child | i love that |
| 14:46.26 | nevcairiel | i love that it only happend to the US :) |
| 14:46.30 | nevcairiel | but its been fixed long ago |
| 14:47.55 | batrick | I thought it was a joke |
| 14:48.01 | batrick | (haven't bought cata yet) |
| 14:48.12 | nevcairiel | nah xp gain was bugged on US release |
| 14:48.16 | nevcairiel | fixed shortly after |
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| 14:48.34 | batrick | lol |
| 14:48.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes. Bugs! |
| 14:48.47 | Lopeppeppy | Squash 'em. |
| 14:49.02 | nevcairiel | wonder how many people handed in their collected dailys without noticing that it didnt work |
| 14:49.09 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. Oh. Ouch! |
| 14:49.22 | Lopeppeppy | rolls on the floor laughing. Would be hilarious if it wasn't a "bug" at all! |
| 14:49.51 | batrick | with how pleasant leveling is for low levels now |
| 14:49.59 | batrick | i dunno why you'd want to rush it |
| 14:50.20 | batrick | especially since the leveling experience is really the only major change in cata imo |
| 14:50.22 | Lopeppeppy | I'm intending to enjoy my baby goblin. |
| 14:50.38 | Lopeppeppy | I've never leveled horde past like 10 before. So it will be completely totally new. |
| 14:51.08 | batrick | eww horde |
| 14:51.15 | batrick | i went horde back in like 2005 or something |
| 14:51.23 | batrick | and now i want to go back to alliance |
| 14:51.27 | batrick | because horde is full of retards |
| 14:54.07 | karl_w_w | fast way to guild reputation, any ideas? :P |
| 14:54.22 | batrick | office blow jobs |
| 14:54.24 | batrick | officer* |
| 14:54.29 | karl_w_w | :P |
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| 14:56.22 | nevcairiel | there is a weekly limit on reputation |
| 14:56.27 | nevcairiel | so nothing you can do |
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| 14:57.50 | haste | we have people who are honored atm |
| 14:58.08 | haste | but our guild has reset to level one twice, and it seems that allows you to gain more rep. |
| 14:59.28 | nevcairiel | yeah the whole thing was bugged and inconsistent |
| 15:01.38 | Thunder_Child | batrick: uh, it's more like wow is full of retards |
| 15:04.03 | jnwhiteh | my guildmate missed realm first mage by 2% |
| 15:04.49 | krka | realm first mage must have been like 6 years ago or something |
| 15:05.01 | mitch0 | ;) |
| 15:05.18 | krka | unless it's a really new realm... |
| 15:05.57 | Kalroth | maybe he was talking about 6 years ago |
| 15:07.05 | krka | probably |
| 15:07.16 | krka | he's usually not very up to date |
| 15:08.20 | mikma | jnwhiteh: :O |
| 15:09.43 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 15:10.40 | Dagmar | My god... the leather |
| 15:10.52 | Dagmar | Soooo much of it on these dragonkin |
| 15:11.10 | krka | do you have something that says daddy loves leather? |
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| 15:15.21 | Lopeppeppy | Purr? |
| 15:20.21 | |Jelly| | hugs Peppy |
| 15:20.41 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly! Did you see on Facebook, my Achievement for the morning? |
| 15:21.36 | |Jelly| | no? |
| 15:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | I shall share. *whisper whisper rustle* |
| 15:23.23 | |Jelly| | SEEKRITS! |
| 15:24.46 | Fisker | i once Lopeppeppy'd a |Jelly| |
| 15:25.12 | |Jelly| | Now /that/ is hot! |
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| 15:31.06 | mitch0 | ok, where did they hide the online AH? |
| 15:31.35 | Fisker | go to your armory profile |
| 15:31.51 | Fisker | there's also a link to it, but last i heard it points to the wrong remote ah |
| 15:32.11 | mitch0 | uhhum. if only I could log in... |
| 15:34.49 | mitch0 | ok, I'm logged in but can't find the bloody armory or AH link... |
| 15:35.05 | smcn | is the daily guild experience cap based on number of people in your guild? |
| 15:35.42 | mitch0 | ah, after some random clicking I'm there. |
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| 15:45.11 | Fisker | yarr mitch0 |
| 15:45.34 | Fisker | blizzard were jerks though |
| 15:48.03 | mitch0 | I can't create multip auctions in one go either... |
| 15:48.16 | mitch0 | their stupid javascript stops after creating the first one |
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| 15:56.09 | Fisker | they probably don't want it mitch0 |
| 15:56.11 | Fisker | bam |
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| 16:14.58 | zenzelezz | "Someone who transferred to Silvermoon, and especially someone who did so with "Unit", has no business calling him/herself a Silvermoon veteran." |
| 16:15.06 | zenzelezz | good to see my realm's still all friendly |
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| 16:50.06 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: huh? |
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| 16:50.14 | TC-Work | i get like 50% of that |
| 16:50.46 | kd3 | whee; collector's edition |
| 16:50.54 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, kd3! |
| 16:50.56 | zenzelezz | TC-Work: Unit is (was?) a guild that transferred to my realm around mid-BC, and did so in a fashion that... well, didn't leave them too popular |
| 16:51.01 | Lopeppeppy | Preordered, or scored off the shelf? |
| 16:51.11 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: ah, sounded like a rank |
| 16:51.16 | kd3 | scored off the shelf |
| 16:51.20 | kd3 | has friends at the local target |
| 16:51.24 | Lopeppeppy | You are strong in the ways of the force, kd3. |
| 16:51.42 | kd3 | it helps that I used to work there... >.> |
| 16:51.46 | alestane | Ah! I killed Pooh! |
| 16:52.43 | Lopeppeppy | Aaaargh! |
| 16:52.52 | Lopeppeppy | It's all about who you know, kd3 |
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| 17:00.49 | Legorol | Cata launch in US, was that at midnight in which time zone? |
| 17:00.53 | Legorol | Eastern, Central or Pacific? |
| 17:01.07 | nebula169 | pst |
| 17:01.19 | Legorol | thanks |
| 17:04.54 | Legorol | Can someone confirm or deny: the launch countdown clock on mmo-champ, was there 8 or 9 hours between the EU and US clocks? |
| 17:06.25 | mikma | yes |
| 17:07.01 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 17:07.43 | Nechckn | PST is -8 from GMT, Legorol so... not sure what mmo-c says, but 8 would make sense. |
| 17:07.54 | Fisker | no kd3 |
| 17:08.02 | Fisker | you cheater |
| 17:09.03 | zenzelezz | Nechckn: EU WoW realms aren't GMT |
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| 17:09.22 | Nechckn | Okay, how far off are they? |
| 17:11.42 | Fisker | CET |
| 17:11.44 | Fisker | jersk |
| 17:13.20 | zenzelezz | if I remember correctly, GMT doesn't do DST, in which case it's +2 now... but it could just be +1 |
| 17:14.34 | zenzelezz | seems I am wrong, just +1 |
| 17:14.46 | TC-Work | thats because DST has switched back now |
| 17:15.36 | zenzelezz | so it's in summer it's +2? |
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| 17:16.26 | Napoleone | hmm i thought achievements extended the cap |
| 17:16.37 | Fisker | it doesn't |
| 17:16.50 | Napoleone | so its impossible to get lvl 2 the first day |
| 17:17.20 | Fisker | no |
| 17:17.30 | Napoleone | we are capped |
| 17:17.39 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: i think so |
| 17:17.48 | Napoleone | the achievements we get today wont count tomorrow will they? |
| 17:17.51 | Adys | kd3: I vote to rename WoW: Cataclysm to "Warcraft IV", because it truly plays like a warcraft game. All in favour? |
| 17:18.04 | TC-Work | Adys: it's hardly RTS |
| 17:18.11 | Fisker | Kazreth earned the achievement Level 85 for 10 points. in 6 minutes |
| 17:18.19 | Fisker | so Armory foresees the future as well |
| 17:18.23 | Adys | TC-Work: where was RTS mentioned? |
| 17:18.30 | Adys | i said plays like a warcraft |
| 17:18.37 | Adys | as in plays like warcraft campains |
| 17:18.38 | TC-Work | which was an RTS? |
| 17:18.47 | Adys | no |
| 17:19.10 | Adys | "plays like a warcraft" implies that the subject is warcraft, not a specific warcraft game |
| 17:19.27 | Adys | point is |
| 17:19.31 | Adys | TWILIGHT HIGHLANDS OMG |
| 17:19.34 | TC-Work | actually you said Warcraft IV |
| 17:19.38 | TC-Work | which is specific |
| 17:19.44 | Lulia|Sleep | >.> |
| 17:19.45 | Adys | and is just a name |
| 17:19.45 | TC-Work | so suck it |
| 17:19.47 | Fisker | Warcraft IV is a game yet? |
| 17:19.52 | Lulia | Are we really arguing? |
| 17:19.53 | Fisker | i didn't know TC-Work |
| 17:19.56 | Lulia | Over this? |
| 17:20.07 | TC-Work | Lulia: you have anything better to argue over? |
| 17:20.31 | Torhal | TC-Work: Fisker -must- be androgynous! |
| 17:20.35 | Lulia | I'd suggest not arguing ;) |
| 17:20.50 | TC-Work | Lulia: stop taking our fun away |
| 17:20.53 | Lulia | Let's all have tea and biscuits. |
| 17:20.59 | TC-Work | Torhal: you got that from his comment? |
| 17:21.02 | Torhal | And arsenic! |
| 17:21.03 | Lulia | Then we can frolick in the fields. |
| 17:21.13 | Torhal | TC-Work: No, I was simply trying to find another arguing point. |
| 17:21.38 | Adys | Twilight Highlands has the right dosage of fun, lore, references, phasing, difficulty, length and beauty. |
| 17:21.39 | TC-Work | Torhal: not sure anyone can argue that though |
| 17:21.45 | Torhal | Hah |
| 17:21.51 | Adys | my mind has been blown |
| 17:21.59 | Lulia | Just don't spoiler it :P |
| 17:22.02 | Adys | i wont |
| 17:22.34 | Fisker | my alt is the top contributing player to the weekly total guild experience |
| 17:22.36 | Fisker | sitting at 0 |
| 17:22.38 | Fisker | :o |
| 17:23.08 | Napoleone | how can you see that? |
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| 17:23.17 | Fisker | armory |
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| 17:27.32 | TC-Work | failmory |
| 17:30.05 | zenzelezz | and there goes realm first Illustrious Archaeologist o_O |
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| 17:34.18 | nevcairiel | we have had that for hours already |
| 17:34.18 | Fisker | i still lol'd when i saw realm first cooking after 2 minutes |
| 17:34.41 | Fisker | *wroooom* |
| 17:39.05 | nicoli_s | exploits ftw |
| 17:39.18 | nevcairiel | its not an exploit |
| 17:39.23 | nevcairiel | you could get meat from the cooking daily |
| 17:39.43 | nicoli_s | im just kidding, im sure people are just hardcore enough |
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| 17:40.01 | nevcairiel | 85 in 5 hours sounds like exploiting, though |
| 17:40.08 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: meat for archaeology? |
| 17:40.13 | nevcairiel | cooking |
| 17:40.24 | zenzelezz | where was cooking mentioned? |
| 17:40.40 | nevcairiel | you have fisker on ignore, eh |
| 17:40.44 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 17:41.22 | Fisker | nevcairiel probably was |
| 17:41.31 | Fisker | there was some sploits in ToTT |
| 17:41.35 | Fisker | or TotT |
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| 18:09.46 | Legorol | Position in queue: 1248. Lol |
| 18:10.22 | Lopeppeppy | That's not too bad... really... *lollerskates* |
| 18:11.14 | zenzelezz | Legorol: Silvermoon? |
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| 18:25.07 | zenzelezz | I find the flight map unwieldy now... have to keep reading the tooltips to see what I'm actually about to click |
| 18:25.26 | Lopeppeppy | It may get better when you get used to it? |
| 18:25.30 | Lopeppeppy | Sort of like a really hot shower? |
| 18:25.35 | Lopeppeppy | Or a really cold shower. *frown* |
| 18:25.38 | zenzelezz | a bit... |
| 18:25.41 | zenzelezz | but not a lot better |
| 18:25.46 | zenzelezz | it's just too densely populated |
| 18:26.04 | zenzelezz | if the icons were smaller, it'd help; then I could actually see the map underneath |
| 18:26.05 | Esamynn|work | zenzelezz: are you complaining about too much choice? :P |
| 18:26.09 | zenzelezz | Esamynn|work: yes |
| 18:26.15 | Esamynn|work | ~lart zenzelezz |
| 18:26.15 | purl | breaks out the Hoover and sucks up zenzelezz |
| 18:26.19 | Lopeppeppy | I am disadvantaged, I don't expect to get onto a server until tomorrow night (with the queues) |
| 18:26.20 | zenzelezz | Esamynn|work: or rather, the presentation |
| 18:26.35 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: well it's been like this since the shattering |
| 18:27.00 | Lopeppeppy | Well, I haven't played but like... twice, dear. |
| 18:27.51 | alestane | I think that's why they made it significantly larger, zenzelezz. |
| 18:28.16 | zenzelezz | alestane: the problem is that the map component didn't seem to get much bigger, just the huge unused margins |
| 18:28.50 | alestane | Well, on the original continents it's harder, since they're so vertical. |
| 18:28.57 | Esamynn|work | ^ |
| 18:30.02 | zenzelezz | alestane: it's those I'm complaining about :) |
| 18:30.22 | Esamynn|work | ~fishslap zenzelezz |
| 18:30.22 | purl | ACTION slaps zenzelezz up side the head with a wet fish. |
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| 19:07.22 | Torhal | zenzelezz: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info18888-FlightMapEnhanced.html |
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| 19:10.44 | Pertheria | Hey, is it possible with lua ( or perhaps without ), to make a 'toggle' key.. basically, i press button, and if hotbar 1 is showing, it changes it to hotbar 2, if hotbar 2 is showing, it changes to hotbar 1? |
| 19:10.55 | Pertheria | maybe like a lua function with a macro to call the function? |
| 19:10.59 | alestane | You can do that with a macro |
| 19:11.10 | alestane | /swapactionbar 1 2 |
| 19:11.31 | Pertheria | well that is simpler than i thought haha |
| 19:11.32 | Pertheria | thanks :) |
| 19:21.15 | kd3 | grr. wtb a way to turn off the "You have earned the max guild rep this week" error message |
| 19:21.49 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 19:21.55 | Fisker | you're cool enough for chrome dev channel? |
| 19:21.58 | msoul | isn't this great, over an hour and still on the que |
| 19:22.04 | Lopeppeppy | Of course he is. :) |
| 19:22.06 | msoul | 1562 |
| 19:22.22 | Fisker | https://chrome.google.com/webstore/ <-do you jerks(jersk) really have webstore nao? |
| 19:23.15 | msoul | Adys: you dere |
| 19:23.37 | Adys | tes |
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| 19:23.45 | msoul | already 85? |
| 19:23.53 | Adys | ya |
| 19:23.58 | msoul | gratz babe |
| 19:24.06 | Fisker | i wish i could play |
| 19:24.11 | msoul | did you get realm first in either that or cooking/other profession? |
| 19:24.13 | Fisker | then again i have to get work done for tomorrow |
| 19:24.20 | Fisker | then again i don't want to work because i want to play |
| 19:24.54 | Adys | msoul: no. but i didnt try in the end |
| 19:25.22 | msoul | Adys: still quite an accomplish to hit 85 within less than a day :-) |
| 19:25.37 | msoul | Adys: stopped at 82 and now waiting on que "1533" |
| 19:25.38 | Adys | its just one straight play session |
| 19:25.51 | msoul | you want to hear something funny? |
| 19:26.01 | Adys | not really, I can write my own jokes |
| 19:26.02 | zenzelezz | Torhal: cheers |
| 19:26.07 | msoul | I woke up as early as possible excited about me going to the store physically and buy the game |
| 19:26.18 | msoul | now the shop open at 9 am and banks open at 10 |
| 19:26.18 | Cide1 | you are excite? |
| 19:26.33 | Cide1 | wait, have you heard about a credit card? |
| 19:26.34 | Adys | i feel seriously cheated |
| 19:26.40 | msoul | my bank card got expired so I had to wait an hour to go through all the necessary papers etc |
| 19:26.42 | Cide1 | or debit card even |
| 19:26.54 | msoul | I have both in 1 card |
| 19:27.00 | Cide1 | apparently not today lololol |
| 19:27.36 | Adys | for wrath i remember a 10 min party on teamspeak, a huge blackout before my ding, and then instantly going to bed and sleeping 15 hours |
| 19:27.40 | msoul | Adys: of all zones you've played which one you prefer |
| 19:27.44 | Adys | now im just farming shit in tol barad because im bored :/ |
| 19:27.54 | msoul | meh, I am enjoying deepholm more than I expected it to be |
| 19:28.04 | Adys | (bored as in: not actually tired enough to go to sleep) |
| 19:28.18 | Adys | msoul: Twilight Highland |
| 19:28.27 | msoul | max your profession :X I did enchanting to 471 I think |
| 19:28.40 | msoul | Adys: won't reach it until either tomorrow or the day after |
| 19:29.08 | msoul | Adys: I didn't get to the beta were I explore new zones etc.. all I needed at the time to check the new talent trees/specs/rotation etc etc |
| 19:29.30 | msoul | so liking every bit of the game so far |
| 19:29.32 | Jamash | lil ragnaros = cooking underwater |
| 19:29.40 | msoul | I didn't like vashjir if you ask me that much |
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| 19:29.59 | msoul | did quest a little then ran to hyjal |
| 19:30.32 | msoul | I just hope I get to the quests soon that gets me a nice upgrades :/ |
| 19:30.42 | msoul | got the trinket from blackrock :P |
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| 19:39.23 | Fisker | kd3 |
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| 19:41.11 | kd3 | hm? |
| 19:41.33 | Fisker | you has chrome web store? |
| 19:43.27 | kd3 | not I, no |
| 19:46.12 | Fisker | you on dev channel? |
| 19:46.18 | kd3 | also no |
| 19:46.28 | Fisker | then thou is not elitist enough |
| 19:47.25 | Fisker | i can't get it working either but i'm not sure if it's because it's seeing right through my vpn :( |
| 19:55.59 | cbreak | gah... a queue |
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| 19:56.25 | Lopeppeppy | A lot of queues |
| 19:56.40 | Pertheria | no queue here, i musta gotten in before the queue |
| 19:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | Lucky lucky |
| 19:58.44 | Jamash | Fisker |
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| 20:05.13 | jnwhiteh | how do you port from SW to Tanaris? |
| 20:05.17 | jnwhiteh | there's supposed to be something |
| 20:06.30 | Xyphoid | there's Dal->Tanaris i guess |
| 20:06.59 | jnwhiteh | the quest implies you can get there from the eastern earthshrine |
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| 20:17.22 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 20:17.28 | Jamash | can you cook underwater? |
| 20:17.45 | Fisker | Haven't trid |
| 20:17.47 | Fisker | tried |
| 20:18.27 | Jamash | I can |
| 20:26.33 | Shirik | Did you know that the space shuttle's tanks were originally going to painted white until they realized that would add an additional 700 pounds, at which time they chose to use orange instead? |
| 20:28.18 | syrae | jnwhiteh: there was some fast travel that got me from SW -> Tanaris, but I can't recall the exact mechanism right now. |
| 20:29.32 | Lopeppeppy | White paint is heavier? *boggle* |
| 20:30.17 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/26_25_24_23_22_21_20_19_18_17_16_15_14_13_12_11_10_9_8_7_6_5_4_3_2_1_lol.jpg |
| 20:30.18 | nicoli_s | its cuz it has all the other colors of paint in it |
| 20:32.11 | Fisker | i don't feel so well Shirik |
| 20:32.21 | Lopeppeppy | Put on socks, Fisker. |
| 20:34.21 | Fisker | Why would socks work? |
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| 20:40.03 | syrae | because socks are awesome |
| 20:40.29 | Lopeppeppy | Whenever someone is feeling sick, the advice is to bundle up nice and warm, and eat chicken soup. Or my cookies. |
| 20:40.38 | Lopeppeppy | Depends on whether you're vegetarianable or not. |
| 20:41.09 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: why does painting them white add 700 pounds? |
| 20:41.55 | zenzelezz | the components of the paint I guess |
| 20:42.20 | kd3 | because paint does not way nothing... there's a lot of paint necessary to cover the EFT |
| 20:42.28 | kd3 | s/way/weigh/ |
| 20:42.32 | kd3 | they just leave it unpainted |
| 20:42.48 | Arrowmaster | so the orange is the unpainted color? |
| 20:42.53 | kd3 | yes |
| 20:42.59 | Arrowmaster | but Shirik said they chose to use orange instead |
| 20:44.07 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_external_tank#Versions |
| 20:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | not bothering to paint it makes sense to me. |
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| 20:46.52 | Arrowmaster | "leaving the rust-colored spray-on insulation bare" |
| 20:47.19 | Arrowmaster | now it makes sense, they were painting over what is currently orange colored |
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| 20:51.17 | Esamynn|work | Shirik: oh, you mean the main drive fuel tank? |
| 20:51.27 | Shirik | yes Esamynn|Away |
| 20:51.32 | Shirik | also Arrowmaster, I don't know, I just know that's what it is |
| 20:51.39 | Shirik | ah |
| 20:51.39 | Esamynn|work | yah, I can believe that |
| 20:51.42 | Shirik | yeah that makes sense Arrowmaster |
| 20:51.43 | Esamynn|work | that thing is huge |
| 20:52.09 | Shirik | (that was me responding to things asked over a period of 10 minutes) |
| 20:52.26 | Arrowmaster | it was also probably a rather thick coating |
| 20:52.49 | Arrowmaster | since it says it was originally to protect it from UV rays |
| 20:53.16 | Esamynn|work | ... the damn thing is junk 8.5 minutes after liftoff |
| 20:53.24 | Arrowmaster | so they probably didnt want it scratching off easily |
| 20:53.55 | Arrowmaster | Esamynn|work: they reuse them |
| 20:54.24 | Esamynn|work | not the fuel tanks |
| 20:54.30 | Esamynn|work | the boosters yes, those break off after 2 minutes |
| 20:54.41 | Esamynn|work | the big fuel tanks break off after about 8.5 minutes and burn up |
| 20:55.19 | Arrowmaster | oh its the boosters they reuse right? |
| 20:55.25 | Esamynn|work | nods |
| 20:55.44 | kd3 | whoop, realm first level 85 on medivh |
| 20:55.53 | Esamynn|work | you go it? |
| 20:55.56 | Esamynn|work | got* |
| 20:55.57 | kd3 | no way |
| 20:56.00 | Esamynn|work | lol |
| 20:56.06 | cbreak | we had a level 85 12 hours ago apparently |
| 20:56.07 | kd3 | had to sleep at some point this morning |
| 20:56.27 | Arrowmaster | EU had an 85 hours before the US launch |
| 20:56.41 | Esamynn|work | ... holy shit |
| 20:56.43 | cbreak | and I don't even have cataclysm! Damn London Heathrow Airport |
| 20:56.58 | Fisker | sploits Arrowmaster |
| 20:57.00 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5708249/how-fast-was-level-85-reached-in-cataclysm |
| 20:57.04 | Xyphoid | i have to give them a lot of points for launch stability |
| 20:57.13 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 20:57.31 | Fisker | don't link exploiting attentionwhores pl0x |
| 20:58.47 | mikma | it was about 12h~ |
| 20:58.58 | Arrowmaster | somebody else confirm that im remembering correctly but wasnt he also the world first 70 but got his XP reset to level 60 for exploiting it? |
| 20:59.41 | Fisker | 80 and 70 but yeah |
| 21:04.57 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 21:07.19 | mikma | someone hit server first 525 archeology 2 hours ago in alonsus eu |
| 21:10.41 | Elkano | on our server it was a lot earlier, I think at least 5hrs ago |
| 21:12.12 | Fisker | someone on hour server was it atleast 1 minute earlier than yours |
| 21:12.16 | Fisker | our* |
| 21:13.24 | mikma | epeen achies |
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| 21:19.12 | Fisker | Elkano |
| 21:20.33 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 21:20.33 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 21:20.51 | nevcairiel | so i guess no maint tomorrow |
| 21:23.16 | Fisker | that depends nevcairiel |
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| 21:29.04 | Elkano | talking about realm first, I think one of my guild mates managed to become realm first with fishing again... unfortunatly since our guild transfered server 2 1/2 month ago he's still in the 90days lock time so he didn't get the FoS :/ |
| 21:29.24 | Fisker | it's 60 days |
| 21:29.25 | Fisker | pwnt |
| 21:29.46 | zenzelezz | 90 day? Isn't transfer lockdown 30 days now? Or shorter |
| 21:30.36 | Elkano | well, the GM told something about a 90day lock for becoming realm first after a transfer |
| 21:30.44 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.04 | zenzelezz | oh, I see, ignore me |
| 21:31.08 | zenzelezz | I misunderstood |
| 21:31.47 | Fisker | Elkano |
| 21:32.35 | Elkano | hmm... ok, maybe he didn't transfere right with the rest of the guild; he wasn't playing that much lately anyways |
| 21:33.08 | Fisker | maybe he should open a ticket again |
| 21:33.19 | unfo- | transfer lockdown: # The transferring character must not have undergone a paid character transfer within the last 3 days. |
| 21:33.24 | unfo- | https://www.wow-europe.com/character/pct/character-transfer-randd-small.html |
| 21:34.16 | Fisker | we're talking about the realm first achievements lockdown not the character transfer cooldown |
| 21:34.53 | unfo- | aah my bad. soz |
| 21:37.21 | Elkano | ok, his armory page is kind of strange, too.. it lists him getting fishing 375 and 525 at the same time... |
| 21:37.59 | Arrowmaster | i thought that was a bug with all those stacking achievements |
| 21:38.04 | Fisker | new issue since 4.0.1 |
| 21:38.05 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 21:38.06 | Arrowmaster | that the old times get overwritten |
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| 21:42.02 | Elkano | hmmm maybe, but why would it show up on the armory? and only the 375, not 75/150/225/300 or 450 |
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| 21:44.49 | Fisker | Elkano because it's not a display issue |
| 21:45.02 | Fisker | and not sure why it wouldn't be for the others |
| 21:45.15 | Fisker | since i've only gotten new achievements that are two-part and not more |
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| 21:49.46 | Cide | and... guild level reverted again |
| 21:50.31 | amro | Cide! |
| 21:50.38 | Fisker | was slow as hell too fast as well Cide ? |
| 21:50.43 | amro | do you use opengl in that game? |
| 21:50.55 | Cide | what game_ |
| 21:50.56 | Cide | ? |
| 21:51.16 | Cide | Fisker: yes |
| 21:51.16 | amro | game editor or something |
| 21:51.17 | Fisker | _that_ game |
| 21:51.21 | amro | or was it just qtgraphics |
| 21:51.27 | Cide | amro: no... it's qt |
| 21:52.01 | cbreak | qt rocks. |
| 21:52.28 | amro | QtRocks, that's not in until 4.9 |
| 21:52.32 | amro | how'd you know about it? |
| 21:52.42 | cbreak | I used QFutureWatcher |
| 21:53.10 | Fisker | so what now Cide i don't wanna level our guild to just shy of level 2 again |
| 21:53.12 | Fisker | rage |
| 21:53.21 | amro | anyone using freetype? |
| 21:53.32 | cbreak | only indirectly |
| 21:53.46 | amro | via what? |
| 21:54.07 | cbreak | Qt, mplayer's libass, The Gimp ... :) |
| 21:54.14 | Cide | QIndirectFreeType |
| 21:54.48 | amro | FTGL is too old, doesn't support shaders, and I really don't want to have to implement something like it on my own |
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| 22:06.50 | Cide | what's that I hear? |
| 22:06.56 | Cide | the world's tiniest closed source violin? |
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| 22:14.48 | Shirik | thwacks Cide |
| 22:23.52 | mascondante | For future reference anyone with the idea of ordering a collector's edition online... don't do it through sears. Took me like a day for them to figure out how to find out about my order and then I find out it was shipped not long ago from now. grrr |
| 22:28.19 | KarlKFI|work | why woudl anyone buy software from sears.. |
| 22:28.58 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
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| 22:35.47 | amro | Cide: ftgl is closed source? |
| 22:36.01 | amro | anyway, I found something awesome |
| 22:36.03 | amro | http://clb.demon.fi/dump/FT2/RectanglePack3.png |
| 22:38.06 | Arrowmaster | what the hell is that |
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| 22:40.30 | nicoli_s | a rectangle pack |
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| 22:45.14 | Mihau | Any have links to a goblin and worgen on the new armory? |
| 22:45.15 | amro | Arrowmaster: packs glyphs dynamically into a texture |
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| 22:53.14 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 22:53.59 | Cide | hi |
| 22:54.06 | Fisker | hi Shirik |
| 22:54.56 | Fisker | hi Cide |
| 22:55.01 | Fisker | hi Fisker ? |
| 22:55.41 | Cide | hi |
| 23:00.25 | amro | no Fisker |
| 23:01.18 | Fisker | hi amro |
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| 23:07.43 | Kraps | oh hey bejeweled 3 is out! http://store.steampowered.com/app/78000/ |
| 23:14.40 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/1306052109 |
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| 23:40.20 | TC-Work | ~staple Cairenn |
| 23:40.20 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Cairenn quite well, and hands Cairenn to tc-work |
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| 23:42.28 | Jerub | gives Cairenn a hug |
| 23:42.56 | Cairenn | hugs Jerub |
| 23:43.00 | Cairenn | thanks TC-Work |
| 23:51.36 | |Jelly| | There a slash command to loot your target? Boss bugged :( |
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| 23:54.12 | Arrowmaster | |Jelly|: there is a keybind to interact with your target which should work for looting |
| 23:54.29 | |Jelly| | Doesn't do anything. Guess she's too far away. :( |
| 23:58.12 | Jamash | you ned a loot-a-rang |
| 23:58.18 | |Jelly| | agreed |
| 23:58.20 | Jamash | s/ned/need/ |
| 23:58.26 | Xyphoid | gosh, my herbs sold at 100g each |
| 23:58.34 | Xyphoid | wonder how long that will last |
