| 00:00.34 | foxlit | I guess mass-thor is underrated. What would actually counter that thorball decently? |
| 00:00.53 | amro | a timing push in that gigantic window when he didn't have anything |
| 00:01.24 | amro | http://bookshelfporn.com/#/post/1524055358 |
| 00:02.03 | dardack_ | so no way to tell an item is class specific without reading through tooltip line by line? |
| 00:02.34 | amro | probably not |
| 00:03.18 | dardack_ | ok, is there a max # of lines to get to class, like BoP is 4, is classs max 15? |
| 00:03.27 | dardack_ | or do i have to read the full tooltip? |
| 00:05.15 | dardack_ | gonna hope 20 is enough |
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| 00:06.39 | amro | keep reading until you find what you're looking for? |
| 00:06.44 | Cide | why would you limit yourself at 20? |
| 00:06.44 | amro | tooltips can get pretty damn big |
| 00:08.36 | dardack_ | ok |
| 00:08.39 | dardack_ | my point is |
| 00:08.45 | dardack_ | if the class line doesn't exist |
| 00:08.48 | syrae | Cide: is there anything that doesn't make you angry? Just wondering. |
| 00:08.54 | dardack_ | i would have to read the whole tooltip, instead of say 20 lines |
| 00:08.58 | Cide | I'm rarely ever angry |
| 00:09.07 | dardack_ | like when looking for Binds on pickup, i only have to read 4 lines max |
| 00:09.13 | Cide | why do people always believe I'm angry |
| 00:09.17 | syrae | ~Cide |
| 00:09.17 | purl | hmm... cide is the developer of the CT mods. He is also known for his bad temper |
| 00:09.32 | Cide | hence |
| 00:09.33 | Cide | why do people always believe I'm angry |
| 00:09.44 | Cide | I didn't write that though |
| 00:09.56 | dardack_ | so when the Class: <class> Doesn't exist i don't want to read through the extra lines If i don't have to, so was hoping there was a max line # Class can never be below |
| 00:10.19 | dardack_ | like the BoP line |
| 00:10.30 | Cide | it's a miniscule difference in computation |
| 00:10.39 | Cide | nobody will notice the extra microsecond it takes |
| 00:10.49 | syrae | dardack_: I'd just read until I run out of lines, imho |
| 00:11.16 | dardack_ | eh but that could be huge syrae, and doesn't cost extra memory cide? |
| 00:11.21 | dardack_ | or again miniscule? |
| 00:11.36 | Cide | it doesn't cost extra memory |
| 00:11.39 | Cide | it costs extra time |
| 00:11.43 | syrae | imho, it's not going to be a huge perf hit |
| 00:11.46 | Cide | and you should stop caring so much |
| 00:11.48 | syrae | right |
| 00:11.53 | Cide | it's not going to be any performance hit whatsoever |
| 00:12.01 | Cide | if you do it a million times a second you'd notice it |
| 00:12.02 | syrae | No extra memory, you're loading the full tooltip into memory regardless. |
| 00:12.05 | Cide | but you aren't are you |
| 00:12.06 | dardack_ | i try not to get too bloated, whole reason i'm adding trasahing/autoselling to my lootwhatiwant mod, garbagefu outdated and hate having to hack it to get to work all the time, and 2. broker garbage is bloated and causes me to lag when looted on older computer, and .5seconds on newer or changing gear even |
| 00:12.25 | dardack_ | ok |
| 00:12.30 | dardack_ | i'll just read full tooltip then |
| 00:12.31 | dardack_ | ty |
| 00:12.38 | Cide | reading a full tooltip is not bloated |
| 00:12.45 | Cide | I fucking hate that word |
| 00:12.56 | dardack_ | i'm not saying it is bloated |
| 00:13.01 | dardack_ | i'm saying i don'tw ant to get there |
| 00:13.02 | Cide | uh huh |
| 00:13.04 | foxlit | Bad, Cide, Bad. |
| 00:13.12 | syrae | If you want to add a ton of extra memory, Copy the tooltip for each line you read. :D |
| 00:13.19 | dardack_ | heh |
| 00:13.23 | Cide | I'm good, foxlit, good |
| 00:14.14 | dardack_ | as it is, storing a blacklist/keeplist/selllist/profileblacklists i'm just trying to keep any extra memory usage and cpu processing down, so even on my older ccomputer i don't notice any hit |
| 00:14.17 | foxlit | Cide: clearly, all addon descriptions should begin with the world "lightweight," and end with the word "Ace" :P |
| 00:14.29 | Cide | lightweight of the ace |
| 00:14.36 | Cide | preferably nothing of the ace |
| 00:14.42 | syrae | dardack_: as long as you're not creating new objects, you're fine. Reading the tooltip doesn't do that. Reading additional lines just means you're spending more time reading, but unless the tooltip is stupidly huge (1000s of lines), you're not going to see a difference since it should be nanoseconds or miliseconds of difference |
| 00:14.44 | dardack_ | yes i dropped fubar finally |
| 00:14.57 | dardack_ | ok ty cide and syrae |
| 00:15.13 | dardack_ | garbagefu was my last non broker plugin |
| 00:15.13 | Cide | nanoseconds or miliseconds [sic]? |
| 00:15.33 | Cide | that only differs by 3 orders of magnitude |
| 00:15.36 | syrae | yeah |
| 00:15.40 | Dajova | uhm |
| 00:15.41 | Cide | or 6 rather |
| 00:16.14 | Dajova | what do you have to do to be able to log back if all you get is "Too many attempts." error everytime you try? |
| 00:16.17 | syrae | I haven't actually tested to see how long it takes to read a line of a tooltip, so I don't know how long it actually takes, so it's somewhere in that range based on intuition |
| 00:16.34 | Cide | stop trying? |
| 00:16.59 | Dajova | i havent tried to log in the past 3 days |
| 00:17.06 | Dajova | at least not on the websites |
| 00:17.23 | Dagmar | Probably time to call CS then |
| 00:17.35 | Dajova | at 1am? |
| 00:17.38 | Dajova | >_> |
| 00:17.49 | Angayelle | had the same problem, can't log in beta char copy but can on battle net and wow |
| 00:18.14 | Dajova | hmm |
| 00:18.18 | Dajova | odd |
| 00:18.21 | Dajova | it worked... |
| 00:18.33 | Dajova | beta char copy has been down or something? |
| 00:18.59 | Dajova | it worked if i logged in on the regular site |
| 00:19.43 | Dajova | thought i had someone trying to access my account for 2 days now :P |
| 00:21.39 | Kraps | Kaelten: ping |
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| 00:23.16 | Syncness | Hello, |
| 00:23.32 | Syncness | does anyone remember the addon to color items in the character panel? |
| 00:27.03 | |Jelly| | oglow |
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| 00:28.33 | Syncness | yes thanks! |
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| 00:44.32 | Mr_Rabies | dunno why oglow's functionality isn't part of the base ui yet |
| 00:44.39 | Mr_Rabies | they did it for quest items D: |
| 00:44.52 | Cide | dunno why it would be necessary |
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| 00:49.23 | Mr_Rabies | it makes managing bags a lot easier |
| 00:49.45 | Mr_Rabies | if they're not gonna fix the bag interface, the least they could do is make the current one easier to deal with |
| 00:49.52 | sylvanaar | anyone have an opinion of Zul'Jin as a server? |
| 00:53.14 | syrae | sylvanaar: It's gimpy, I heard. Only one arm. |
| 00:53.35 | syrae | but other than that, no honest opinion |
| 00:53.38 | sylvanaar | anything is better than Mal'Ganis |
| 00:53.48 | syrae | sylvanaar: US server or EU? |
| 00:53.51 | sylvanaar | US |
| 00:54.23 | syrae | I think my mother plays on Mal'ganis, but I am not entirely sure |
| 00:54.42 | sylvanaar | it has an 1:11 ally:horde ratio |
| 00:55.03 | cbreak | is that binary? |
| 00:55.06 | syrae | That sounds somewhat similar to Dragonmaw. I don't think we're quite that bad, but it's certainly off |
| 00:55.07 | sylvanaar | and its the highest pop server |
| 00:55.33 | sylvanaar | cbreak: its a ratio |
| 00:55.42 | cbreak | 1 : 3 in decimal? :) |
| 00:56.04 | sylvanaar | nope |
| 00:57.12 | sylvanaar | well Zul'Jin it is... /shrug |
| 00:57.14 | syrae | sylvanaar: you could always go with the ever unreliable method of rolling a lowbie on Zul'jin, run into a capital city and ask in trade chat. Also asking in the realm forum. Heh |
| 00:57.28 | sylvanaar | yeah, i have read the realm forums |
| 00:57.45 | sylvanaar | look decent |
| 00:58.07 | syrae | Honestly, I usually stay where my friends are. And most of my friends are all on Dmaw. So as much as I hate the PvP ruleset, there I stay. |
| 00:58.31 | sylvanaar | yeah, well my friends are all on PST servers, and i need an EST server really |
| 00:58.48 | sylvanaar | i cant stand raiding until 2am |
| 00:58.54 | syrae | yar |
| 00:59.33 | Jerub | i hate pvp players on pve servers. anyone who is remotely serious about pvp on the two pve servers i play on is a cock to everyone. foulmouthed, they ninja loot in raids, very antagonistic. |
| 01:00.59 | syrae | I've played on a PvP server for nearly 6 years now (holy shit), and I still don't enjoy PvP. I've gotten quite good at either escaping or just avoiding conflict, though. |
| 01:01.27 | cbreak | I play on a pve server. Ha. Ha. :P |
| 01:01.32 | syrae | Yeah, yeah |
| 01:02.28 | syrae | Our guild is full of alt-o-holics, so we really don't want to move. GM had 8 60s when BC came out and 10 70s when Wrath hit. There's no way he'll want to transfer his brood |
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| 01:06.47 | Mr_Rabies | <syrae> Our guild is full of alt-o-holics, so we really don't want to move. GM had 8 60s when BC came out and 10 70s when Wrath hit. There's no way he'll want to transfer his brood |
| 01:06.54 | Mr_Rabies | that's 600 bucks almost |
| 01:06.57 | Mr_Rabies | jeeez |
| 01:07.03 | syrae | Mr_Rabies: riiiight |
| 01:07.13 | Mr_Rabies | oh wait i'm thinking faction change too |
| 01:07.21 | Mr_Rabies | derp |
| 01:07.24 | syrae | $25 per char move |
| 01:07.26 | syrae | right? |
| 01:07.32 | syrae | so, $250 |
| 01:07.33 | Mr_Rabies | yeah and $30 for faction change i think |
| 01:07.36 | Mr_Rabies | still |
| 01:07.37 | Mr_Rabies | crazy |
| 01:07.41 | syrae | right |
| 01:07.52 | sylvanaar | yeah, $55 for server+faction+race |
| 01:08.03 | Kraps | fuck yeah http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical-instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-s550/?mode=model |
| 01:11.26 | Mr_Rabies | are there any addons that add reputation info to the quest log? |
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| 01:14.26 | Hirsute | So, my wife calls me last night, it's her raid night, and says she's disconnecting at least once every 5 or 10 minutes, even with all graphics options turned all the wya down, and all addons disabled. |
| 01:14.52 | Hirsute | We walk through every thing we can, checking network settings, restarting wow, restarting the computer, no luck. |
| 01:15.37 | Hirsute | I finally, in frustration, ask her to look at the system tray and tell me what's running, she starts reading stuff off and then says, "... and something called 'Steam'. And that says, 'Updating 44%'. " |
| 01:15.45 | Hirsute | I had her turn that off, and everything was hunkey dorey. |
| 01:16.02 | Jerub | Hirsute: heheheheheh |
| 01:16.11 | Hirsute | That said, she had to go to the task manager and kill it's process, because it wouldn't let her turn it off any other way. |
| 01:17.47 | Hirsute | I'd have been able to fix that *so much faster* if my University would allow incoming RDP or VNC connections, or even SSH (which is how I used to do all of this, I'd tunnel it over ssh). Grumble grumble. |
| 01:18.22 | Jerub | Hirsute: you need http-proxy-tunnel |
| 01:18.29 | Jerub | http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/http-proxy-tunnel/README.txt |
| 01:19.05 | Hirsute | Well, if I decide to just say "screw our network admins", I'll probably just shove everything I need on 443. |
| 01:19.09 | Hirsute | I haven't hit that point yet. |
| 01:21.37 | Jerub | Hirsute: the beauty of that method is that you can run it on an existing apache server. |
| 01:22.01 | Hirsute | Jerub: Would I need to set up the Apache server? |
| 01:22.09 | Jerub | it's in the README |
| 01:22.39 | Jerub | you just make it do SSL on 443, then throw the 5 lines starting with 'AllowCONNECT22 |
| 01:22.43 | Jerub | from the readme in |
| 01:23.13 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:26.24 | Hirsute | Aye, but the problem is me having to set up a web server on their networks. They watch pretty carefully for that, and are pretty quick to shut down connections if they even suspect something against the rules (the rules being: Absolutely *no* server software on this network) is happening. |
| 01:26.54 | Jerub | oh, right, you want to connect /in/ not out. |
| 01:27.02 | Hirsute | I've got 6 or so more months on their networks, then it's off to greener pastures for me. |
| 01:27.05 | Hirsute | Jerub: Correct. |
| 01:27.15 | Jerub | Hirsute: some kind of vpn out of the question? |
| 01:28.29 | Hirsute | Jerub: Almost all inbound ports are blocked at their router. I was previously using openssh and.... I think openswan to do essentially that, but then they decided to shut down port 22, and specifically sent me notification that what I was doing was against the rules, and if I tried it again, they'd shut me down. |
| 01:29.23 | Hirsute | The network admins here, in general, would much rather have their underlings tell everyone "no" than have to think about what's reasonable traffic. |
| 01:29.44 | Hirsute | I've gone the rounds with them about it repeatedly. |
| 01:29.51 | Hirsute | But, oh well. Time for me to go get some Sushi, I think. |
| 01:32.55 | industrial | network admins have the easiest jobs :P |
| 01:33.14 | industrial | Lock that network down and make it do nothing except 'normal web traffic', done. |
| 01:34.29 | Jerub | tee hee |
| 01:34.46 | Jerub | i sell software and hardware to those network admins |
| 01:35.22 | Jerub | Hirsute: btw, openvpn is the best thing to use for vpning out through http looking traffic |
| 01:37.42 | industrial | Especially the ones working as the only 'computers guy' outside the IT industry, like a middle school or something .. just sit on your ass all day |
| 01:37.53 | Jerub | industrial: yeah, those guys are awesome. |
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| 01:38.29 | Jerub | but what's more awesome than those is the schools that have so much money they have an IT department of 8 people including a DBA and two programmers |
| 01:38.33 | EvilGrin | gah tortoiseCVS hates me :( |
| 01:38.52 | Jerub | because nothing says money well spent like developing custom software to let teachers tell johnny's mother he's got an A |
| 01:39.07 | industrial | what do you do for a living? well I replace keyboard keys and mouse balls and browse reddit all day! |
| 01:39.13 | industrial | Jerub: heh |
| 01:39.41 | industrial | Where I did my IT bachelor, students wrote the software ... |
| 01:39.48 | industrial | you could tell. |
| 01:40.06 | industrial | the roster system was omfghorrible D: |
| 01:40.31 | industrial | and now, bed! |
| 01:45.02 | Jerub | industrial: i'm referring to a high school i know |
| 01:45.18 | Jerub | million dollar datacenter on site, massively expensive internet links, large IT staff |
| 01:48.06 | Dajova | slaps DarthAndriod_ around with a large woman. |
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| 01:52.21 | dardack_ | sigh what's the combatlocked thing again |
| 02:03.56 | adys_ | Kaelten, ping |
| 02:06.45 | adys_ | <EvilGrin> gah tortoiseCVS hates me :( |
| 02:06.57 | adys_ | haha. nice one. --- wait; you were serious? |
| 02:07.45 | adys_ | goes back to bed in shock |
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| 02:11.51 | Hirsute | Mmmmm. Teriyaki and sushi. |
| 02:18.27 | Tuller | teriyaki = yes, sushi = no |
| 02:20.18 | Hirsute | Tuller: Sushi = very much yes |
| 02:20.30 | Hirsute | nom nom nom |
| 02:20.38 | Cairenn | I'm with Tuller on this one |
| 02:20.57 | Seerah | me, too |
| 02:21.00 | Hirsute | That's okay, more sushi for me |
| 02:21.07 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 02:37.07 | kd3 | sushi++ |
| 02:37.18 | Wobin | http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbr29e24Px1qzvqipo1_500.jpg |
| 02:41.52 | Thunder_Child | wtb D3 |
| 02:44.02 | kd3 | wobin; lmao |
| 02:47.59 | industrial | Facebook does not give third party applications or advertising networks the right to use your name or picture in adverts. If this is allowed in the future, this setting will govern the usage of your information. |
| 02:48.17 | industrial | WERE GUNNA FUCK YOU ALL OVER IN THE FUTURE, FUCK YOU USERS AND YOUR PRIVACY~!!!! |
| 02:48.24 | industrial | that is all. |
| 02:48.28 | industrial | back to sleep |
| 02:50.23 | Wobin | industrial: if you don't keep an eye on your security settings in facebook |
| 02:50.27 | Wobin | you deserve everything you get |
| 02:50.55 | industrial | Well I just found that one. |
| 02:51.13 | industrial | I was really looking for the page where I can remove apps' access from my profile |
| 02:51.20 | industrial | I'm still looking :p |
| 02:53.47 | Kraps | Wobin: are the text and pic related or not? :p |
| 02:53.55 | Wobin | Kraps: heheh |
| 02:55.16 | industrial | loll |
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| 02:59.50 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/11/11/cataclysm-quest-reward-armor-sets-for-1-60/ |
| 02:59.53 | Cide | hi |
| 03:00.32 | Jerub | 'clown suit' ? |
| 03:00.37 | Jerub | the mismatched pieces? |
| 03:01.05 | Kraps | yeah, though i only used that term in outland |
| 03:01.22 | industrial | Kraps: I recognize many of these sets |
| 03:01.27 | dardack_ | I can't find it, the CombatLocked thingy |
| 03:01.32 | industrial | some of them can be vendor bought |
| 03:01.39 | industrial | at least, with those looks |
| 03:02.12 | industrial | but it will mean everyone will look the same aka asian style mmo :\ |
| 03:03.25 | Kraps | those are quest rewards, dungeon stuff will be like it is now |
| 03:03.41 | Iriel | Presumably there are world drops too |
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| 03:06.40 | Kraps | everyone will look the same at endgame anyway |
| 03:07.46 | dardack_ | ok isn't there some API check that returns true if things are locked because of combat? |
| 03:07.56 | Cide | !api combatlock |
| 03:07.56 | lua_bot | InCombatLockdown: Returns whether the user interface is protected due to combat (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/InCombatLockdown) |
| 03:08.04 | Cide | documentation. you can has it. |
| 03:08.17 | dardack_ | ok i gotta remember to try that here |
| 03:08.21 | dardack_ | googling combatlock |
| 03:08.23 | dardack_ | no success |
| 03:08.33 | Cide | you should search the site, not google |
| 03:08.44 | dardack_ | yea true |
| 03:13.59 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDP7OJdNkcY&feature=player_embedded |
| 03:14.31 | Hirsute | Heh... "What type of speech impediment does Ted Nugent have?" "Drugs." |
| 03:14.37 | Zasurus | Hi all, Is it posible to create a function that takes a value and returns another function back that has access to the passed value? So if the first function was called 3 times with 3 different values and each time the returned value (another function) was stored into a seperate local variable and then each function was ran they would be able to use there own copy of the originally passed value. |
| 03:15.24 | Iriel | Yes |
| 03:15.39 | Zasurus | Oh how? :-D |
| 03:15.48 | Iriel | function x(y) return function() return y end end |
| 03:16.29 | Iriel | A = x("apple") B = x("pear") ; print(A(), B()) would return "apple", "pear" |
| 03:16.43 | Zasurus | So the inner function has access to the outer functions y? |
| 03:16.58 | Iriel | the local y parameter is captured by the inner closure and becomes an upvalue |
| 03:17.05 | Iriel | scoped for the execution of x |
| 03:17.15 | Iriel | each call to x gets a new upvalue created |
| 03:17.18 | Zasurus | I love you... :-D THANKS! |
| 03:17.36 | Iriel | You can get all sorts of clever with upvalues |
| 03:17.40 | Iriel | e.g. |
| 03:18.15 | Iriel | function MakeGetSet() local value; return function() return value; end, function(n) value=n; end; end |
| 03:18.38 | Iriel | getter, setter = MakeGetSet(); then you can do setter("hi"); v = getter(); etc |
| 03:18.51 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5687712/fiskars-cuts%252Bmore-will-make-your-other-scissors-look-so-so-lame i am lol'ing at the name |
| 03:19.07 | Zasurus | It makes perfect sence now you said it! That will make my messaging library MUCH simpler! ;) |
| 03:20.04 | Hirsute | I think I just got lost in that function, iriel. |
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| 03:21.03 | Iriel | Hirsute: maybe it's a trap! 8-) |
| 03:21.44 | Zasurus | Hehe NOT ONLY did I get the answer to my question (Thanks Iriel) I also got a desire to buy Titanium sissors (Thanks Thunder Child!) :o |
| 03:21.56 | Hirsute | lua> local function MakeGetSet() local value; return function() return value end function(n) value=n end end getter,setter = MakeGetSet() setter("hi") v = getter() print v |
| 03:21.56 | lua_bot | Hirsute: luabot:1: 'end' expected near 'function' |
| 03:22.02 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhid_kS59BE&feature=player_embedded |
| 03:22.12 | Thunder_Child | Zasurus: I am to overshadow Iriel |
| 03:22.26 | Iriel | you missed a comma |
| 03:22.33 | Cide | he missed an end |
| 03:22.39 | Iriel | no, a comma |
| 03:22.40 | Thunder_Child | s/am/aim/ |
| 03:22.41 | Cide | oh |
| 03:22.43 | Cide | yeah, you're right |
| 03:22.52 | Cide | return value end, |
| 03:23.34 | Hirsute | lua> local function MakeGetSet() local value; return function() return value end, function(n) value=n end end getter,setter = MakeGetSet() setter("hi") v = getter() print v |
| 03:23.34 | lua_bot | Hirsute: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'v' |
| 03:23.41 | Hirsute | derp |
| 03:23.50 | Hirsute | lua> local function MakeGetSet() local value; return function() return value end, function(n) value=n end end getter,setter = MakeGetSet() setter("hi") v = getter() print(v) |
| 03:23.50 | lua_bot | Hirsute: hi |
| 03:24.13 | taroven | Anyone here screwed around with Geany's config files? |
| 03:24.21 | Hirsute | I think I need to see this tabbed out... |
| 03:27.14 | Hirsute | Ah |
| 03:27.23 | Hirsute | Now I understand what's happening there. |
| 03:27.52 | dardack_ | !api isdead |
| 03:27.52 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'isdead': UnitIsDeadOrGhost, UnitIsDead |
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| 03:29.47 | Hirsute | Iriel: So, in that example, does value become global? |
| 03:30.04 | Iriel | No, it's an upvalue |
| 03:30.11 | Iriel | its scope is within MakeGetSet() |
| 03:30.18 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WF6M1hy0EE |
| 03:30.38 | dardack_ | !api died |
| 03:30.38 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'died'. |
| 03:30.42 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/Sk7a2.jpg?ref=nf |
| 03:30.43 | dardack_ | !api rez |
| 03:30.43 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'rez'. |
| 03:30.44 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: http://kotaku.com/5687309/valve-is-killing-the-pc-market-apparently |
| 03:30.46 | Hirsute | ... So, when getter and setter are run, do they operate always within the scope of MakeGetSet()? |
| 03:31.04 | Iriel | When the closures are created, they are given a reference to the newly allocated 'value' upvalue |
| 03:31.11 | Iriel | (They both get the same reference) |
| 03:31.23 | Iriel | it's basically just a reference to a piece of memory |
| 03:31.27 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: seen that. those guys should QQ moar |
| 03:31.34 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: agreed |
| 03:31.39 | Iriel | Once both getter and setter are garbage collected, the upvalue is collected as well |
| 03:32.07 | Iriel | Each time you run MakeGetSet a new upvalue is created, and a new pair of closures are created pointing to it |
| 03:32.36 | Hirsute | So "value" remains accessible to getter and setter as long as they exist, regardless of what setting they're called in, but nothing else can access "value", correct? |
| 03:32.52 | Iriel | (If you have say 10 getter/setter pairs, there's only one copy of the lua bytecode for each (the "prototype" in lua terms), but each closure has pointers to its upvalue(s) and prototype) |
| 03:32.56 | Iriel | Correct |
| 03:33.05 | Iriel | (Unless you're using the debug library) |
| 03:33.07 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: weekend deals are up |
| 03:33.11 | Iriel | (or the C API's) |
| 03:33.37 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: thanks |
| 03:33.37 | Iriel | It's a nice technique for encapsulation when you dont need (or want) a table |
| 03:33.53 | dardack_ | !api raised |
| 03:33.53 | lua_bot | RAISED_AS_GHOUL: Fires when the player is raised as a ghoul by a friendly death knight (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/RAISED_AS_GHOUL) |
| 03:33.57 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: more like deal :( |
| 03:34.12 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: 2 deals :p |
| 03:34.23 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: 33% is not a deal! |
| 03:34.26 | Hirsute | I'm going to have to read about this more, as I don't think I'm quite wrapping my brain around it yet. |
| 03:35.01 | Iriel | One way to look at it is that it starts out as a local |
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| 03:35.10 | Hirsute | And while I'm reading about it, for your enjoyment: http://wins.failblog.org/2010/11/11/epic-win-photos-stacking-order-win/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+HackedIrl+(Hacked+IRL) |
| 03:35.18 | dardack_ | !api resurrect |
| 03:35.18 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'resurrect': CannotBeResurrected, AcceptResurrect, DeclineResurrect, ResurrectHasSickness, RESURRECT_REQUEST, CanHearthAndResurrectFromArea, ResurrectHasTimer, ResurrectGetOfferer, HearthAndResurrectFromArea |
| 03:35.19 | Iriel | But then it's "captured" by its use inside a newly created function |
| 03:36.01 | Iriel | Since the new function might live longer than the function call that created the local, lua has to allocate some memory to store the value in, so the local is converted to an upvalue |
| 03:36.26 | Iriel | (In practice this decision process happens when the function is compiled, not when it's called) |
| 03:37.24 | dardack_ | ok what do i type to find the event tha tfires when you become alive |
| 03:37.39 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5687966/blizzard-offering-a-week-of-free-time-to-warcraft-apostates |
| 03:37.41 | Iriel | UNIT_HEALTH ? |
| 03:38.42 | dardack_ | is that only way cause that fires all the time |
| 03:42.32 | Cide | http://www.activestate.com/blog/2010/11/linux-developers-choose-python-best-programming-language-and-scripting-language |
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| 03:42.41 | Cide | ^ Shirik |
| 03:43.09 | Iriel | Someday I've got to learn that |
| 03:44.32 | dardack_ | oh that new return to graveyard, does that fire an event |
| 03:44.34 | dardack_ | !api graveyard |
| 03:44.35 | lua_bot | PortGraveyard: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/PortGraveyard) |
| 03:45.21 | Cide | Iriel: python? |
| 03:45.29 | Iriel | Cide: yes |
| 03:45.35 | Cide | it's extremely easy to pick up |
| 03:46.57 | Iriel | yeah, it's a matter of finding something I want to do in it, when i'm not in a hurry (thus pushing me into using something I already know) |
| 03:47.15 | dardack_ | !unghost |
| 03:47.20 | dardack_ | !api unghost |
| 03:47.20 | lua_bot | PLAYER_UNGHOST: Fires when a player resurrects after being in spirit form (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_UNGHOST) |
| 03:47.31 | dardack_ | nice |
| 03:47.52 | Cide | it has the python imaging library so if you want to do image management that's pretty cool |
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| 04:29.30 | Nob-AFK | anyone got a quick macro to check the range to a target? |
| 04:38.46 | Hirsute | I don't think it's possible to find the exact range to a target. I think you can check if a spell with a known range is useable on a target, but that's the best you can do, I think. |
| 04:42.26 | Hirsute | How do I get the name of the frame I've got my mouse over? Is it just GetMouseFocus()? |
| 04:42.29 | Nob-AFK | hrmmm ok ty |
| 04:42.34 | Nob-AFK | slash fstack |
| 04:42.38 | Nob-AFK | err /fstack |
| 04:42.49 | Hirsute | Ah |
| 04:43.26 | Hirsute | That's very nice |
| 04:44.46 | Kraps | i see now http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/129528/disc-priest-changes-build-13277---yeah-baby |
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| 04:52.29 | dardack_ | !api world_map_update |
| 04:52.29 | lua_bot | WORLD_MAP_UPDATE: Fires when the contents of the world map change or become available (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/WORLD_MAP_UPDATE) |
| 04:53.43 | Kraps | yay 5k gold from battered hilt |
| 05:00.02 | Mr_Rabies | i was lucky enough to get 7k a month or so ago |
| 05:01.31 | Jerub | Kraps: every time someone sells one of those on trade there are arguments about if it's worth anything |
| 05:02.22 | Kraps | its not worth it for me. end of argument :p |
| 05:03.58 | Mr_Rabies | that's why i sold it on an alt |
| 05:03.59 | Mr_Rabies | :D |
| 05:04.16 | Jerub | heh |
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| 05:08.15 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5688040/report-kinect-only-cost-56-to-make |
| 05:11.39 | Mr_Rabies | 'What they found was that each of the cameras costs Microsoft approximately $56' - 2x56 != 56.00 |
| 05:12.41 | Kraps | theres 2 cameras on each? |
| 05:12.54 | Mr_Rabies | yeah, it uses two |
| 05:13.28 | Mr_Rabies | i think it uses IR for one and color for another, and since they're side by side it has somewhat of a 3d picture too or something? |
| 05:14.35 | Mr_Rabies | i'm not really interested in the games for it yet so i haven't really looked into the tech |
| 05:14.38 | Mr_Rabies | too much at least |
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| 05:23.31 | Shirik | Cide! |
| 05:23.39 | Shirik | Why don't you play some SC2 with me :( |
| 05:23.51 | Shirik | I've been working on my build order :( |
| 05:23.58 | Cide | Shirik: I wanted to but you said you were doing other stuff |
| 05:24.07 | Cide | so I updated ubuntu |
| 05:24.54 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:25.06 | Cide | we'll play tomorrow |
| 05:25.11 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:25.14 | Shirik | but I teach a class tomorrow |
| 05:25.16 | Cide | hey it's 6am |
| 05:25.23 | Cide | I said we should play like 4h ago |
| 05:27.08 | Shirik | and then you were like "oh I'm going to disappear now" |
| 05:27.14 | Cide | no? :P |
| 05:27.25 | Cide | ok |
| 05:27.32 | Cide | if I play with you in 20 min |
| 05:27.40 | Cide | will you buy me some red bull tomorrow |
| 05:27.47 | Shirik | how am I supposed to do that o.o; |
| 05:27.55 | Cide | see |
| 05:27.58 | Cide | we have a problem |
| 05:28.05 | Thunder_Child | Cide: i would buy you joose |
| 05:28.14 | Cide | if by joose you mean juice? |
| 05:28.19 | Thunder_Child | no, i mean joose |
| 05:28.24 | Cide | wtf is joose |
| 05:28.26 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki joose |
| 05:28.45 | Cide | it's a drink or a javascript framework |
| 05:28.54 | Thunder_Child | guess |
| 05:29.00 | Thunder_Child | well, both actually |
| 05:29.06 | Thunder_Child | guess which one i would buy you |
| 05:29.19 | Cide | the framework I hope |
| 05:29.25 | Cide | I prefer to spike my red bull with vodka |
| 05:29.38 | Thunder_Child | ok, how about |
| 05:29.49 | Thunder_Child | ~wiki four_(drink) |
| 05:29.51 | Thunder_Child | instead |
| 05:30.31 | Thunder_Child | i really need to try one before they ban them here |
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| 05:34.34 | dardack_ | ty all that helped me today, sorry for some dumb questions at times, think i'm finally done and can take a break |
| 05:34.42 | Cide | good |
| 05:34.48 | Cide | because in lua, there is no continue |
| 05:34.56 | dardack_ | heh |
| 05:35.06 | dardack_ | oh and those that helped yesterday |
| 05:35.59 | Shirik | Wikipedia ITN: "The video game Call of Duty: Black Ops breaks the 24-hour sales record, selling 5.6 million copies" |
| 05:37.03 | dardack_ | man my garbagfu directory is from like 3 years ago, and I'm actually deleting it, think it's the oldest mod i use |
| 05:37.09 | dardack_ | and damn that's alot of copies |
| 05:37.51 | Cide | so top 24-hour game sales of all time? |
| 05:40.29 | Napoleone | i think i've seen somewhere but i seem not to find it atm. but if i say have 3 textures, other than the few built in layers. arent there a way to layer it by number? |
| 05:41.24 | Napoleone | wow |
| 05:41.32 | Napoleone | the one game i wont buy because i got mw2 ;P |
| 05:42.13 | Shirik | yes Cide |
| 05:43.43 | Kraps | Napoleone: i dont have mw2, should i get black ops? :p |
| 05:43.56 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:44.28 | Kraps | why not Arrowmaster |
| 05:44.55 | Arrowmaster | because its made by Treyarch |
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| 05:45.29 | Shirik | ^ |
| 05:47.25 | Cide | it's like mw2 but better campaign I heard |
| 05:47.40 | Cide | anyway Shirik I wanted to play too but i's too late now |
| 05:47.43 | Arrowmaster | its made by Treyarch |
| 05:47.44 | Cide | really gotta sleep |
| 05:47.46 | Shirik | :< |
| 05:47.49 | Shirik | so mean to me |
| 05:47.49 | Arrowmaster | thats not possible Cide |
| 05:47.52 | Cide | lol |
| 05:47.57 | Shirik | I've been working on my build order too! |
| 05:48.05 | Cide | well you won't forget it to tomorrow I hope |
| 05:48.08 | Shirik | I might! |
| 05:48.16 | Cide | lucky for you you have your replays |
| 05:48.16 | Shirik | ok night |
| 05:48.21 | Cide | night! |
| 05:52.43 | Kraps | well thats fail, my name is right in the source |
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| 05:56.32 | A-KO | I tell you what |
| 05:56.34 | A-KO | this south park was fucking funny |
| 05:56.36 | [Wobin] | http://protagonist4hire.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-haloween-project-is-finally-finished.html |
| 05:56.38 | Xyphoid | is it possible to do something like delete the blizz tradeskill UI and replace it with the source code from the UI toolkit, so that I can mess with it? |
| 05:56.54 | Seerah | no |
| 05:57.17 | Seerah | you can still modify it as is, though |
| 05:57.38 | Napoleone | kraps u pto you ;) |
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| 05:58.43 | A-KO | okay [Wobin] that's awesome |
| 05:58.52 | NeoTron | which classes have pets they can control? Just Hunters, Warlocks, Mages and DK? |
| 05:59.24 | [Wobin] | yes |
| 05:59.27 | greppy | hunters and warlocks in any spec, frost mages and unholy dk |
| 06:00.01 | Napoleone | so Draw Layer is the frames own layer system? |
| 06:00.47 | kapipi | Priests have shadow fiends. |
| 06:00.54 | Napoleone | not controlleable |
| 06:01.03 | Napoleone | it is only active on the target it was summoned upon |
| 06:01.10 | Napoleone | line a doomguard function |
| 06:02.08 | kapipi | It has a pet bar with stuff you can control. |
| 06:02.22 | Napoleone | not on my priest |
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| 06:04.20 | NeoTron | I think I mainly care about perma pets, more so than temporary even if they are controllable |
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| 06:44.48 | zenzio | "A study out of Canada claims that seeing meat actually calms a person down." |
| 06:45.04 | zenzio | I'm guessing "meat" isn't a euphemism in that sentence... |
| 06:46.36 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/dalvengyr/umadcuzubad/advanced |
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| 06:48.51 | zenzio | that's an interesting name you chose there Kraps |
| 06:49.02 | Kraps | not mine |
| 06:49.12 | Xyphoid | hey that's interesting that it shows the average ilvl of the stuff you're not wearing |
| 06:49.30 | Kraps | thats a known troll guild on dalv |
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| 06:52.05 | Kraps | their trolling/flaming is so outrageous that it cancels itself out and means nothing (to me at least) |
| 06:53.12 | Shirik | How long does the deathy pet take to get to your account? |
| 06:53.57 | Kraps | Shirik: what do you mean? |
| 06:54.10 | Shirik | I type in code, it says "OK!" |
| 06:54.15 | Shirik | and then I sit at the mailbox qqing |
| 06:54.27 | Kraps | relog? |
| 06:54.30 | Shirik | I did |
| 06:54.46 | Shirik | maybe I'll stay offline for more than a few seconds |
| 06:55.40 | Kraps | thing's hideous anyway :( |
| 06:58.05 | Shirik | fixed |
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| 07:14.37 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:14.39 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:14.41 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:18.31 | Kraps | Fisker: have a care |
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| 07:19.24 | Fisker | i have a fucking invincible |
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| 07:21.21 | Kraps | its so cute Fisker http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41IEtcKUOnL._SL160_.jpg |
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| 07:26.20 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 07:26.22 | Fisker | i have a mount |
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| 07:28.20 | Kraps | the mount is now diamonds |
| 07:29.13 | Fisker | no! |
| 07:29.17 | Fisker | the mount is mine! |
| 07:31.59 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 07:33.24 | Kraps | give it a lick |
| 07:33.40 | Fisker | NO! |
| 07:33.46 | Fisker | it's not that kind of horse |
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| 07:43.08 | cbreak_work | oh fun |
| 07:43.31 | cbreak_work | just read on a local newspaper that there's a new game called "Black Ops" where the protagonist has to kill Fidel Castro. |
| 07:43.44 | cbreak_work | and apparently, the real Castro is annoyed by that. |
| 07:44.01 | cbreak_work | and... supposedly, Blizzard is happy because they will sell more games because of that... |
| 07:44.13 | zenzio | the way I heard it "Cuba" is unhappy about it |
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| 07:48.01 | Xyphoid | can you get the type of a glyph without parsing tooltips? |
| 07:48.23 | Xyphoid | i could use GetGlyphInfo for my own class's glyphs |
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| 07:58.40 | Shirik | adys_ |
| 07:58.42 | Shirik | why did you leave me |
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| 08:00.07 | Kraps | the writing and pacing in recent lie to me episodes seems to be lacking |
| 08:01.47 | Napoleone | hmm why is it so hard to make an proper eclipse movement. |
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| 08:07.13 | Napoleone | ok is there a way to have a texture move into palce. and also have a mask on it for the original place so it looks like it gradient comes in |
| 08:07.37 | mitch0 | ? |
| 08:07.56 | Xyphoid | is GetSpellDescription documented anywhere? |
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| 08:08.19 | mitch0 | never even heard about that |
| 08:08.40 | Xyphoid | seems to be new in 4.0.1 |
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| 08:09.31 | mitch0 | well, can't find any docs on it with google. try it and document it ;) |
| 08:09.40 | mitch0 | you'll be teh fameous! |
| 08:13.02 | adys_ | Shirik, hm? |
| 08:14.42 | adys_ | Xyphoid, it is -- just works like GetSpellInfo but returns the desc |
| 08:16.07 | Xyphoid | thanks, i just figured out that the spell i was looking at has no desc |
| 08:17.18 | mitch0 | har har |
| 08:17.57 | Xyphoid | i'm a muppet |
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| 08:22.54 | adys_ | http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2010/11/what-feeling-even-better-indexing-of.html |
| 08:22.58 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 08:29.11 | zenzio | Cairenn|afk: om nom nom http://cuteoverload.com/2010/11/04/any-new-puppy-owners-first-day/ |
| 08:39.14 | mitch0 | didum |
| 08:41.53 | Fisker | hey mitch0 |
| 08:41.55 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
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| 08:47.27 | Xyphoid | woop my toy works: http://imgur.com/dp8ud.jpg |
| 08:47.32 | Xyphoid | thanks for the advice |
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| 08:48.39 | Shirik | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/11/AR2010111107897.html |
| 08:50.38 | zenzio | proof that cats rule |
| 08:51.51 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:51.54 | Fisker | i once killed a guy |
| 08:52.07 | unfo- | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1840686/128951810151.gif <-- proof that cats rule |
| 08:52.08 | Mirrormn | http://www.plasticvicar.com/catsuck.html |
| 08:52.14 | Mirrormn | proof that cats suck |
| 08:52.56 | Mirrormn | actually I stopped liking cats when I learned that when they nuzzle you with their phase, it's the equivalent of a dog peing on you |
| 08:53.04 | Mirrormn | marking you as territorty/property |
| 08:53.41 | zenzio | clearly you don't understand the awesomeness of cats |
| 08:53.57 | Mirrormn | I clearly do not |
| 08:54.21 | Shirik | nuzzle you with their phase? |
| 08:54.33 | Mirrormn | phase O.o |
| 08:54.40 | Mirrormn | *face |
| 08:54.55 | Shirik | I didn't think cats were territorial |
| 08:55.11 | Mirrormn | apparently |
| 08:55.17 | zenzio | Shirik: o_O |
| 08:55.34 | Mirrormn | they have glands in the sides of their face containing marking chemical |
| 08:56.16 | Mirrormn | fucking cats |
| 08:56.24 | zenzio | so, news report that "There have been a number of fake nude pictures (of Emma Watson) the last two months". Clearly these people are unfamiliar with the Internet |
| 08:56.27 | Mirrormn | anyway, even if that weren't true, they're generally just douchebags |
| 08:56.37 | Mirrormn | haha, in the last two months |
| 08:56.54 | zenzio | indeed |
| 08:56.55 | mitch0 | wtf is Emma Watson? |
| 08:57.00 | Mirrormn | relatedly, I'm pretty sure emma watson has said she would be willing to appear nude in later films |
| 08:57.06 | Mirrormn | Hermione |
| 08:57.08 | zenzio | apparently she's some girl from the Harry Potter movies |
| 08:57.11 | mitch0 | ah |
| 08:59.36 | Mirrormn | does anyone else completely freak out for a fraction of a second whenever a commercial or tv show uses <generic alarm sound>? |
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| 09:00.42 | Fisker | Shirik once killed a guy |
| 09:01.08 | Mirrormn | I better he did it through the internet, somehow |
| 09:01.11 | Shirik | once |
| 09:01.16 | Shirik | but I'm really bad at it |
| 09:01.19 | Shirik | so I rolled a healer |
| 09:01.31 | Shirik | and now I kill people all the time |
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| 09:17.44 | adys_ | estimated times on computers are like that guy you're waiting for at a party |
| 09:17.59 | adys_ | you keep calling him every ten mins and every time he says "I'll be there in 5 minutes" |
| 09:18.41 | unfo- | adys_, http://xkcd.com/612/ |
| 09:18.47 | adys_ | old |
| 09:18.51 | adys_ | without clicking |
| 09:19.12 | unfo- | well duh, it is on teh webz ==> OLD; but it is still related ;) |
| 09:19.38 | Mirrormn | related > new |
| 09:19.55 | adys_ | known by heart > related |
| 09:20.17 | Fisker | hey Adys |
| 09:20.19 | adys_ | Sup |
| 09:21.23 | adys_ | apparently Adys is up to over 80 unchecked highlights and priv msgs over freenode only; gonna be fun |
| 09:25.00 | Fisker | O_o |
| 09:25.16 | Fisker | 90% of those are mine! |
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| 09:48.42 | harl | wuff wuff! |
| 09:49.08 | bluspacecow | -_- |
| 09:49.11 | bluspacecow | *hides* |
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| 09:53.13 | harl | o.o |
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| 10:02.03 | Fisker | omg jnwhiteh |
| 10:02.04 | Fisker | drama |
| 10:04.47 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 10:04.54 | bluspacecow | \o fisker |
| 10:04.58 | bluspacecow | you go BC ? |
| 10:06.12 | Fisker | bc? |
| 10:06.18 | Fisker | blizzcon? |
| 10:06.23 | bluspacecow | ya ya |
| 10:06.29 | bluspacecow | *does the can can* |
| 10:06.50 | Fisker | i was(n't) |
| 10:07.06 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 10:07.09 | bluspacecow | troll! |
| 10:07.11 | Fisker | but i want to talk to jnwhiteh |
| 10:07.36 | Fisker | about drama(and miracles and magic) |
| 10:09.34 | bluspacecow | and sparkles! |
| 10:09.36 | bluspacecow | that heal! |
| 10:09.48 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/970016992 |
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| 10:10.44 | bluspacecow | soon to be joined by nev|computer and nev|iphone and nev|crackberry |
| 10:16.02 | mitch0 | blue: ... |
| 10:16.11 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 10:16.14 | bluspacecow | me ? |
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| 10:26.00 | adys_ | ... |
| 10:26.05 | adys_ | when did the forums get a makeover? |
| 10:26.17 | bluspacecow | thats the new ones |
| 10:26.19 | adys_ | scratch that, when did they become not shit? |
| 10:26.19 | bluspacecow | in beta |
| 10:26.44 | bluspacecow | a while ago |
| 10:27.21 | bluspacecow | here go adys |
| 10:27.22 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/932933466 |
| 10:27.47 | bluspacecow | UI & Macros forum |
| 10:27.47 | bluspacecow | http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/1011693/ |
| 10:28.04 | adys_ | neat |
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| 10:28.45 | bluspacecow | the avatars are dynamic too |
| 10:28.48 | bluspacecow | login in game |
| 10:28.51 | bluspacecow | change outfit |
| 10:28.52 | bluspacecow | logout |
| 10:28.55 | bluspacecow | changed on forums |
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| 10:36.06 | sioraiocht | mikmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 10:37.54 | Kalroth | milkmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-n |
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| 10:43.23 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: THat is *nice* |
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| 11:40.26 | jnwhiteh | my laptop got drowned in milk =/ |
| 11:41.48 | zenzio | O_o |
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| 11:48.33 | jnwhiteh | its at the repair depot now and I won't have it back for a while |
| 11:48.36 | jnwhiteh | and its going to be expensive |
| 11:48.39 | jnwhiteh | this makes me very sad. |
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| 11:49.59 | A-KO | 0C outside right now |
| 11:50.00 | A-KO | win |
| 11:53.20 | zenzio | yesterday while I was playing New Vegas, I was interacting with a merchant, and noticed that my cap count was exactly 25000. My natural reaction was to jump on Google and see if I could find info about a cap...cap |
| 11:53.33 | zenzio | turned out it was just by chance, and that I could in fact still get more caps |
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| 11:57.19 | mikma | sioraiocht: wut? |
| 11:57.25 | sioraiocht | soooooo |
| 11:57.36 | sioraiocht | can we come visit in January? :D |
| 11:58.17 | mikma | of course! i have b-day at 17th ;) |
| 11:59.31 | sioraiocht | sadly, that's when teaching starts for jnwhiteh and me |
| 11:59.38 | mikma | heh |
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| 12:00.07 | sioraiocht | we were wondering if the weekend around the 7th,8th,9th were okay |
| 12:00.37 | mikma | yeah, haven't planned anything so far in the future (hoho) so it's a deal |
| 12:01.04 | mikma | so what do you want to do? swim in the frozen lake? go into sauna? skinnydip in the snow? :D |
| 12:01.14 | sioraiocht | all o fthat sounds pretty awesome to me |
| 12:01.24 | sioraiocht | <3 sauna |
| 12:01.24 | mikma | oh, gotta get vihta |
| 12:01.38 | sioraiocht | lol can you buy them in stores in finland? |
| 12:01.45 | mikma | yeah |
| 12:03.02 | sioraiocht | Finland sounds pretty awesome |
| 12:03.12 | sioraiocht | I had initially excluded it from list of countries to look for jobs in |
| 12:03.17 | mikma | now where in the heck was that cartoon |
| 12:04.21 | sioraiocht | but now I think it's a possibility |
| 12:04.37 | sioraiocht | of course jnwhiteh might kill me if he has to learn Finnish |
| 12:04.56 | mikma | hah |
| 12:05.10 | mikma | sioraiocht: http://humoncomics.com/sauna-time |
| 12:05.15 | sioraiocht | haha |
| 12:05.23 | sioraiocht | hahah |
| 12:05.31 | sioraiocht | do you also shout VIHTA |
| 12:05.35 | sioraiocht | while doing it? |
| 12:05.53 | mikma | hmm, no, but it's a good idea |
| 12:05.57 | sioraiocht | LOL |
| 12:06.41 | mikma | http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135249864285.gif <- inc translation |
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| 12:07.18 | mikma | 1) Fingerpori sauna-evening - "Heimo and Rape!" 'yes?' |
| 12:07.42 | mikma | 2) "Our guest from America is a bit shy, go and talk to him" |
| 12:08.21 | sioraiocht | LOL |
| 12:08.49 | mikma | we don't pronounce it like it should be |
| 12:09.16 | sioraiocht | I assumed not, since finnish spelling is about the only easy part of the language |
| 12:10.03 | zenzio | I know only the most crucial Finnish sentence... "ei sa peittää" (not sure about the spelling though) |
| 12:10.12 | mikma | almost |
| 12:10.19 | sioraiocht | and yes, when I tell people back home about sauna etiquette is europe |
| 12:10.21 | sioraiocht | they want to cry |
| 12:10.29 | sioraiocht | *in |
| 12:10.33 | mikma | stop reading the warning texts in radiator while you are taking a dump, zenzio |
| 12:10.43 | zenzio | mikma: what else am I supposed to read! |
| 12:10.56 | krka | do elaborate on the sauna netiquette in europe |
| 12:10.59 | mikma | donald ducks, like everyone else |
| 12:11.08 | sioraiocht | zenzio: Ãr du norsk? |
| 12:11.42 | zenzio | sioraiocht: ja (although I'm intrigued you seem to be asking in Swedish) |
| 12:12.11 | mikma | same shit, different letters! |
| 12:12.27 | zenzio | true =) |
| 12:12.47 | sioraiocht | Jag talar inte norska men jag vet att du kan förstå den. |
| 12:12.59 | zenzio | :-) |
| 12:13.21 | sioraiocht | Ãg get skrifað Ãslensku ef hún er betri ;) |
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| 12:13.50 | sioraiocht | depending on your dialect, heh |
| 12:14.13 | zenzio | looks impressive, but a bit too icelandic for me to grasp :-) |
| 12:14.21 | sioraiocht | can actually understand a bit of Sognamål thanks to Icelandic. |
| 12:14.59 | sioraiocht | Also, nynorsk ftw |
| 12:15.21 | zenzio | sounds like you like learning (about) languages? |
| 12:15.26 | sioraiocht | yeah |
| 12:15.35 | sioraiocht | <3 scandinavian langs |
| 12:15.45 | sioraiocht | Oddly, I speak Icelandic way way way better than Swedish |
| 12:16.29 | sioraiocht | and find the lack of rules frustrating |
| 12:16.59 | sioraiocht | (in Swedish) |
| 12:18.05 | zenzio | I find the lack of rules (or maybe it's just a whole bunch of exceptions) in English frustrating :-p |
| 12:18.18 | krka | which lack of rules specifically? |
| 12:18.30 | zenzio | pronunciation mostly |
| 12:18.46 | zenzio | and yes, we have stupid stuff like that in Norwegian too :) |
| 12:18.49 | krka | any examples? |
| 12:19.04 | krka | ah, never mind, you meant english! |
| 12:19.17 | zenzio | yes |
| 12:19.24 | mikma | Orgrimmar - Gamon Updated! |
| 12:19.24 | mikma | Gamon received a considerable upgrade in the latest beta build, he is now a level 85 elite and will kick your ass if you try to attack him! It's about time! |
| 12:19.31 | zenzio | it sure is |
| 12:20.00 | zenzio | it would've been cooler if they left him as a lowbie, and when attacked he took (max health - 1) damage and transformed into Super-Gamon |
| 12:20.27 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 12:20.39 | Fisker | you should've poured rice all over it |
| 12:20.52 | Fisker | also saw the news about Nexus S? |
| 12:21.06 | Fisker | Apparently both Nexus S and 2.3 is delayed because they had to put a dual-core cpu in it |
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| 12:33.36 | industrial | http://d.maze.io/~wijnand/js.html |
| 12:33.42 | industrial | sicko I know ^ |
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| 12:45.41 | Napoleone | ok while beeing in school and shit |
| 12:45.50 | Napoleone | is there a masking option like minimap has? |
| 12:46.46 | zenzio | masking option? |
| 12:47.37 | Napoleone | i need a masking layer for my texture to make the effect |
| 12:48.35 | industrial | you bring bees into school? |
| 12:48.53 | Napoleone | math b is soo easy i'm modding offline ;P |
| 12:49.53 | Napoleone | trying to make a circle move in over another circle. but outside the main circle the moving circle should hide the part thats not over the main circle.. |
| 12:49.56 | Napoleone | making sense? ;P |
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| 12:54.23 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
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| 13:08.10 | sioraiocht | zenzio: yeah, and a lot of the stuff that was regular in Icelandic in irregular in Swedish and Norwegian |
| 13:11.27 | Napoleone | industrialyes i bring bees.. and crockdiles and indians |
| 13:13.10 | amro | industrial: was that a message to himself? |
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| 13:18.50 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 13:23.17 | Napoleone | anyone know if i can add a mask texture to a frame. |
| 13:24.07 | angayelle | mmh |
| 13:24.14 | angayelle | i don't hink so |
| 13:24.23 | Napoleone | trying to add the effect of an eclipse |
| 13:24.38 | angayelle | why you don't just use texture + mask ? |
| 13:24.58 | angayelle | with a transparent frame |
| 13:25.10 | Napoleone | hmm let me show you what i'm tryingt o make |
| 13:26.15 | angayelle | btw i have my main frame, in this frame i have child frames which are used for as unitframes. I should be able to use SecureUnitButtonTemplate on theses frames, right ? |
| 13:26.53 | angayelle | cause i can use it on the main frame, but did not success on her child |
| 13:27.54 | angayelle | i wonder if i made an error in my code or if it's something i can't do |
| 13:28.16 | Napoleone | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8409/eclipseu.png |
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| 13:29.58 | angayelle | ok i see |
| 13:30.14 | Napoleone | that mask needs to be masking the one beneath |
| 13:30.53 | angayelle | how many different textures you have beneath the mask ? |
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| 13:31.18 | Napoleone | the "shadow" and the sun or moon |
| 13:31.33 | Napoleone | but all i need visible is the Ring and center part |
| 13:32.06 | angayelle | you want the shadown to move over the sun/moon too ? |
| 13:32.26 | Napoleone | yes to make the effect |
| 13:33.32 | industrial | amro: nop, check the regular expression |
| 13:33.36 | industrial | and what it returns |
| 13:34.31 | angayelle | i see whant you want, you want the shadow to be contained in the sun/moon and not to spill over whetever will be beneath |
| 13:34.52 | Napoleone | ye |
| 13:34.56 | angayelle | which would be the case if the shadow have its own mask |
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| 13:35.09 | Napoleone | ye what I'm thinking. |
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| 13:35.40 | Napoleone | but are there a "mask" function for the frames |
| 13:36.07 | angayelle | well it would be quite easy in photoshop because mask and pictures can be moved independently from each other |
| 13:36.11 | Napoleone | ye |
| 13:37.03 | angayelle | i'm not sure a mask for the frame would do the trick because you can have a texture go outside the boundaries of a frame |
| 13:37.15 | Lopeppeppy | I adore Photoshop, and Fireworks! |
| 13:37.19 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 13:37.36 | angayelle | i r photoshop pro ! |
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| 13:38.45 | amro | industrial: no way, I'm not crazy enough to try and decipher any of that |
| 13:39.00 | industrial | just click it :D |
| 13:39.06 | Napoleone | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetBlendMode |
| 13:39.12 | Napoleone | can i use this part for something |
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| 13:39.51 | angayelle | you use it to blend the shadow on the sun/moon |
| 13:40.02 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 13:41.46 | angayelle | the other way it to make every version of the sun/moon with shadow, in a big texture or many small ones and change texture/modify tex coords |
| 13:41.55 | angayelle | but then you won't have a smooth transition |
| 13:42.46 | angayelle | or imagine that you use a square frame instead of a circle one, then you could use texcoords to move the shadow texture |
| 13:43.10 | Napoleone | but the sun or the moon isnt square and the eclipse is circular |
| 13:43.40 | angayelle | think on somthing like painting frame |
| 13:45.02 | angayelle | that'll be above the shadow the spill over the sun/moon and hide it |
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| 13:48.00 | angayelle | but that's what you had in mind first |
| 13:48.03 | angayelle | not* |
| 13:48.58 | [Wobin] | so. |
| 13:49.01 | [Wobin] | the elemental outbreaks |
| 13:49.07 | [Wobin] | what do we do if we see it in a zone? |
| 13:49.19 | Lopeppeppy | Kill some? |
| 13:49.37 | [Wobin] | and then what? |
| 13:49.47 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/demotivational-posters-i-shall-name-you.jpg o_O |
| 13:49.55 | Lopeppeppy | Kill some more? |
| 13:50.03 | Lopeppeppy | ... zenzio, that is so wrong... |
| 13:50.45 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 13:51.06 | [Wobin] | there doesn't seem to be a point, doing so |
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| 13:51.21 | Lopeppeppy | I think there's some feat of strength associated with killing one of every type. |
| 13:51.25 | Lopeppeppy | So I have heard it said. |
| 13:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, Fisker-dear. Toes warm today? |
| 13:51.37 | Fisker | yes Lopeppeppy |
| 13:51.40 | Fisker | also a daily quest |
| 13:51.47 | Fisker | sufficiently :o |
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| 13:52.14 | Fisker | you also gain a buff if you can be bothered |
| 13:52.19 | Lopeppeppy | Excellent news about daily quests and buffs and toeses. |
| 13:52.45 | alestane | If you kill enough elementals, the rift will close for the time being. If the ellies were a suitable level, you get access to a daily quest if you haven't done it yet today. |
| 13:53.13 | alestane | And if you kill a rift of each type, yes, you get a feat. |
| 13:53.16 | Kraps | fiskerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 13:53.21 | Ackis | what news peppy? |
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| 13:53.31 | angayelle | who hands in the daily ? |
| 13:53.33 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i just find it hard to find the rifts |
| 13:53.37 | Ackis | zenzio: I had a dog named peppy. |
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| 13:54.32 | Ackis | anyone find the name of an addon called "Retard List" offensive? |
| 13:54.51 | angayelle | only midly |
| 13:55.08 | cbreak_work | does it track people who didn't buy the expansion? |
| 13:55.14 | zenzio | not personally, but I would choose a more politically correct one; perhaps a more humorous one to take the edge off |
| 13:55.16 | Kraps | "After much though and deliberation, we have decided to remove the 25 v 25 bracket from rated battlegrounds. We felt that overall, it created too many logistical issues for players and that in the long run, most players would just skip that week in the rotation." |
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| 13:57.50 | Dagmar | "Tea Party List" |
| 13:57.52 | Kraps | someones after me lucky charms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmveO_DNevc&feature=player_embedded#! |
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| 14:06.50 | cbreak_work | Dagmar: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/alice-VII.html |
| 14:07.11 | Napoleone | god this is pissing me off |
| 14:07.41 | Napoleone | cant get this masking to work |
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| 14:11.09 | Kraps | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html#1148 |
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| 14:12.10 | Napoleone | grr |
| 14:13.00 | angayelle | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html#1147 much bettah |
| 14:14.12 | Kraps | lols |
| 14:14.26 | angayelle | sideboobs ftw |
| 14:14.31 | Napoleone | ye |
| 14:14.36 | Napoleone | good sideboobs even better ;p |
| 14:15.18 | Kraps | never seen a bad sideboob |
| 14:16.00 | Kraps | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html?ip=starcraft#62 |
| 14:16.06 | angayelle | there is no such thing as a bad sideboob |
| 14:16.10 | zenzio | what's the deal with "sideboobs", are you afraid to see full boobs? |
| 14:16.25 | angayelle | quite pretty kraps |
| 14:17.03 | Kraps | zenzio: not sure blizz allows full boobs on their fanart page |
| 14:17.08 | angayelle | think of the "mystery" zenzio, full frontal nude is the only way |
| 14:17.17 | angayelle | not* |
| 14:17.23 | angayelle | gah i eat my words |
| 14:17.27 | zenzio | screw mystery, you can still do full nudity in softcore porn |
| 14:17.43 | angayelle | i challenge you to this ! |
| 14:18.19 | zenzio | unless you're secretly some hot girl, I don't think people want to see your full nudity |
| 14:18.20 | Kraps | angayelle: http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=§ion=&q=Jaina+Proudmoore#/d110y1w |
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| 14:19.48 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 14:20.04 | Napoleone | Kraps or zenzio you guys know much about texture masking |
| 14:20.16 | Kraps | no |
| 14:20.40 | angayelle | deviantart have some great pictures, burried within alot of child drawing, tho i could'nt even do a 10th of what they do |
| 14:20.58 | zenzio | Napoleone: depends what you mean by masking. It sounds like you're trying to do something more advanced than just regular alpha channel transparency |
| 14:20.59 | Napoleone | hmm anyone of you seen the mange. Silverfang? or Ginga nagareboshi: gin |
| 14:21.08 | Napoleone | zenzio 2 sec |
| 14:21.17 | Napoleone | http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/8409/eclipseu.png |
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| 14:21.40 | Napoleone | basically making a more fluent eclipse motion with proper shadowing. |
| 14:21.46 | Napoleone | this is one way to think of it. |
| 14:22.13 | Kraps | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html?ip=warcraft#771 theres a naked version on deviantart |
| 14:23.06 | Kraps | then theres this disturbing one http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html?ip=warcraft#761 |
| 14:23.17 | Fisker | i just farted Kraps |
| 14:23.40 | Nob-AFK | Fisker: You should get that looked at =P |
| 14:23.44 | Kraps | Fisker: catch it in a bottle |
| 14:23.50 | angayelle | tbh i would have prefered arthas this way, people would have down her way faster than the male version |
| 14:24.34 | Nob-AFK | Thay have to make it like one of those "male" Slide puzzels when you down the boss you get a pic |
| 14:25.07 | Nob-AFK | Someone making a eclipse meter? |
| 14:25.57 | angayelle | napoleone |
| 14:26.16 | Napoleone | i am |
| 14:27.00 | Nob-AFK | Have fun =P, I gave up and went with one of the premade ones. |
| 14:27.11 | Napoleone | well i got most of it made. |
| 14:27.23 | Napoleone | just have a small problem with a texture layering masking thing |
| 14:28.04 | Kraps | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/community/fanart/index.html?search=j#263 |
| 14:28.36 | Nob-AFK | i had issues with the visable parts of the bar. Nothing overlaped or got hidden properlly |
| 14:29.47 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 14:30.06 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 14:30.44 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 14:30.57 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 14:31.07 | Napoleone | not that problem |
| 14:31.16 | Napoleone | its the masking the shadow on the eclipse |
| 14:32.30 | angayelle | kraps, you're killing my productivity at work |
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| 14:33.41 | Nob-AFK | angayelle, i said the samething yesterday. Every hour someone links something and i spend 3 hours looking at it. Never get work done. |
| 14:33.58 | Kraps | gives angayelle a poor performance review |
| 14:34.21 | zenzio | "Similarly we do not have plans to force developers to learn and post in French, German, Russian, Spanish, LA Spanish or Portuguese, Italian, Polish, Chinese, Taiwanese, Korean or any other language we support for any of our games." |
| 14:34.30 | zenzio | does LA really have their own Spanish? |
| 14:35.51 | Kraps | oh i just got what LA was |
| 14:36.14 | Nob-AFK | Latin America |
| 14:36.16 | Nob-AFK | lol |
| 14:36.39 | angayelle | if they want someone to code buggy interface in french, i'm the one ! |
| 14:37.42 | zenzio | is Latin American Spanish noticably different from Spanish Spanish? |
| 14:37.55 | Nob-AFK | Yes |
| 14:38.13 | Nob-AFK | There is a noticable diffrence. |
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| 14:39.14 | Nob-AFK | It's kinda the equivlent of British English to American English. Yea its the same language but alot of words have diffrent meanings, etc. etc. |
| 14:39.45 | zenzio | I was just asking; I don't speak any Spanish so I most likely wouldn't be able to tell :-p |
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| 14:40.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | you are all insanely clever people ... which IDE is most suited for Java, asp and .net (three languages I am to learn soonish) |
| 14:41.14 | Thunder_Child | which ever one you like best |
| 14:41.23 | mitch0 | also nothing suits asp |
| 14:41.27 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I was thinking I'd be stuck with Visual Studio, which I don't like that much (It's rather heavy) |
| 14:41.41 | Thunder_Child | dont say that around Shirik :p |
| 14:41.42 | zenzio | how dare you use "stuck with" about Visual Studio |
| 14:41.50 | Thunder_Child | see |
| 14:41.56 | Thunder_Child | oh...bah |
| 14:42.01 | Thunder_Child | i nead to learn to read |
| 14:42.19 | Nob-AFK | What is the maxium number of toons you can have per realm? My wife just said she made a new one but i thought she was maxed at 8 0_o. |
| 14:42.22 | MoonWitch|Mobile | my dislike has nothnig to do with the app itself, it's quite good, but it's also quite heavy on resources (talking about on my latop) |
| 14:42.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | 10 I though Nob-AFK |
| 14:42.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | thought* |
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| 14:42.39 | mitch0 | I thought it was 8 too |
| 14:42.45 | Kraps | "To date, there have been 12 cases in eight years trying to impose some type of state-level regulation on video games. The ESA has challenged all of these cases through a process similar to the California case, and won every time." |
| 14:42.48 | Nob-AFK | So did I. Hrmm i think she deleted a 80 to make a new one >_< |
| 14:42.48 | MoonWitch|Mobile | for java eclipse was recommended. |
| 14:42.49 | industrial | Did something change about the way panels behave in wow? I can't open a merchant and my char window or a merchant and inspect at the same time anymore |
| 14:43.11 | MoonWitch|Mobile | industrial: I noticed that too |
| 14:43.12 | industrial | I ctrl-click an item in the merchant window and it closes and the wear window pops up instead of to the side of the merchant window :((( |
| 14:43.16 | Nob-AFK | industrial: Not that i have noticed |
| 14:43.20 | dardack | is anyone recruiting a friend to 60 now to grant levels to worgen on dec 7? |
| 14:43.48 | MoonWitch|Mobile | dardack on the wowi forums are a few looking for folks iirc |
| 14:44.13 | dardack | ahh was just curious, i'm leveling my DK first, and maybe faction change to worgen |
| 14:44.14 | Thunder_Child | Nob-AFK, mitch0: it's 10 |
| 14:44.16 | MoonWitch|Mobile | anyhow, back to cleaning house and then I can FINALLY go upstairs. |
| 14:44.18 | Nob-AFK | industrial: So your paperdoll frame is closing your other windoes. Are you Using and mod's like ai-art? |
| 14:44.38 | industrial | Nob-AFK: nope, and I can't have more then 1 open it seems. char window and merchant wont work either |
| 14:44.41 | MoonWitch|Mobile | or wait ... Nob-AFK is there an issue with ai-art? |
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| 14:45.09 | Nob-AFK | MoonWitch|Mobile: I had a guildie say that ai-art won;t allow them to open 2 ui windows at the same time. |
| 14:45.24 | Nob-AFK | But then again they have more addon's then i do so it could be a conflict as well. |
| 14:46.00 | industrial | I have no code running that messes with panels atm I think |
| 14:46.05 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I should look into that |
| 14:46.20 | Nob-AFK | MoonWitch|Mobile: You are the author of Ai-Art? |
| 14:46.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Nob-AFK: I use DoubleWide for tradeskills, so that could conflict |
| 14:46.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no, that's quokka |
| 14:46.43 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I think |
| 14:46.48 | Nob-AFK | Ah ok. Good addon either way =P |
| 14:46.57 | MoonWitch|Mobile | But I have part of ai-art part my own |
| 14:47.09 | MoonWitch|Mobile | (am in the process of creating all my own textures) |
| 14:47.44 | Nob-AFK | Ah ok. |
| 14:47.51 | MoonWitch|Mobile | eg tooltips, chatbackground, statusbars, nameplate art -- those are mine right now :P |
| 14:47.55 | MoonWitch|Mobile | the rest I gotta look into |
| 14:48.20 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I do wonder if it causes the game to load more slowly, but I've not noticed much in that regards (gotta do more tests) |
| 14:48.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | anyhow - cleaning again |
| 14:48.43 | Nob-AFK | I reckon i use your buttonfacade layout |
| 14:49.00 | Nob-AFK | Well used to I don;t have the addon on atm. |
| 14:49.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Nob-AFK: I just ported it to buttonfacade :) |
| 14:49.19 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I don't use buttonfacade anymore, otherwise I'd probably still make a few |
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| 14:49.46 | Nob-AFK | I think it was wire, that i used to use. Pre patch |
| 14:49.59 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yeah that was a testing waters thing |
| 14:50.07 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and I think it was a request |
| 14:50.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | do they still work? |
| 14:50.34 | Nob-AFK | They did prepatch. |
| 14:50.58 | dardack | MoonWitch|Mobile: if your not using buttonfacade what you using? |
| 14:51.06 | Kraps | "Two thousand five hundred years ago Socrates drank hemlock for "corrupting the youth of Athens." And now, ironically, parents will do whatever it takes to try to get youth to learn a little Socrates or go to the opera." |
| 14:51.07 | Nob-AFK | I think i may have had to fix something can;t rmember, ill check it later. If it does ill give u the fiels if there are and diff's and u can update it =P |
| 14:51.08 | MoonWitch|Mobile | rActionButtonStyler |
| 14:51.18 | dardack | any reason? |
| 14:52.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I had some perf issues with buttonfacade and an addon I couldn't do without (don't ask me which one, I can't remember).. and rabs did what i needed it to do |
| 14:52.19 | dardack | cool, just curious |
| 14:52.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | but I still firmly believe ButtonFacade is a great thing |
| 14:52.49 | MoonWitch|Mobile | (I just understand rabs better qua coding :P) |
| 14:53.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and found lua based config handy, it saves me setting up the addon for all toons |
| 14:53.20 | zenzio | rabs better qua? |
| 14:53.30 | dardack | no doubt, i use BF myself, was just curious if i should switch for a reaon |
| 14:53.45 | angayelle | MoonWitch ? |
| 14:53.48 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I understand the code of rabs better, since I never used Ace as framework for an addon |
| 14:53.52 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yes angayelle? |
| 14:54.11 | angayelle | GO BACK TO CLEANING, WOMEN !! |
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| 14:54.19 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I am only one woman... |
| 14:54.25 | zenzio | :) |
| 14:54.28 | angayelle | yeah right, ehe |
| 14:54.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | :P |
| 14:54.50 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I am also - contrary to popular belief - a brunette and thus not blonde. |
| 14:55.03 | MoonWitch|Mobile | though I have a streak of redhead in me ;) |
| 14:55.31 | alestane | Any woman who wanders in here seems to. |
| 14:55.36 | angayelle | i like bald women |
| 14:55.40 | Nob-AFK | 0_o |
| 14:55.41 | dardack | my irish blood fights with my lebanese blood, red/blond/black it's wierd, so i just save my head |
| 14:55.42 | MoonWitch|Mobile | dardack: I recommend just checking both out. Rabs might be too basic for you. |
| 14:55.43 | Lopeppeppy | Being a redhead is all it's cracked up to be. Trust me. *purr* |
| 14:55.55 | dardack | i trust you |
| 14:55.58 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Lopeppeppy: I love you now |
| 14:56.21 | Lopeppeppy | dardack, you're in trouble. *grin* |
| 14:56.22 | Thunder_Child | i dont think Seerah has any |
| 14:56.23 | dardack | MoonWitch|Mobile: eh not sure i'm using BF to it's full ability anyways, i think i'm just skinning my Domino's bar buttons |
| 14:56.31 | dardack | Lopeppeppy: what else is new |
| 14:56.36 | alestane | fluffs Peppy's hair and strokes the nape of her neck. |
| 14:56.40 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah is a gnome, she totally has red hair if she wants it! |
| 14:56.47 | MoonWitch|Mobile | why is it that when I come into the room the conversation gets weird usually |
| 14:57.05 | MoonWitch|Mobile | dardack: that's exactly why I used BF too |
| 14:57.07 | zenzio | what makes you so sure it wasn't weird before you entererd? |
| 14:57.10 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause girls do that to rooms full of boys? |
| 14:57.18 | dardack | true dat Lopeppeppy |
| 14:57.24 | MoonWitch|Mobile | zenzio: true... |
| 14:57.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I am going to love working in a team in which I am the only female in the room (15 men, 1 girl) |
| 14:57.49 | angayelle | my middle girl is redhead, gosh she's pretty hard to handle, now i don't trust redhead anymore |
| 14:57.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | LOL |
| 14:57.56 | Kraps | oh shit theres girls up in here! |
| 14:57.59 | angayelle | evil peoplez |
| 14:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, did I tell you I was signing up to have my heart broken? |
| 14:58.06 | zenzio | middle girl? |
| 14:58.15 | alestane | Not yet, Lopeppeppy, what now? |
| 14:58.15 | angayelle | yeah got 3 |
| 14:58.21 | MoonWitch|Mobile | the middle one agewise |
| 14:58.25 | dardack | red hair is dieing, my daughter inherited a bit, but only comes out in summer, friends of ours with noone having red hair in immediate fam, both daughters bright red hair |
| 14:58.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and wait til they're all in their teenage years.. |
| 14:58.36 | Lopeppeppy | I met a boy! It shall be tragic. |
| 14:58.45 | dardack | it doesn't always have to be tracig |
| 14:58.52 | dardack | or something if i can spell right |
| 14:58.53 | alestane | Oh noes, star-crossed lovers! |
| 14:59.00 | Lopeppeppy | I promise it will be. Totally star-crossed fun. |
| 14:59.03 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: the only solution is break his heart first |
| 14:59.09 | angayelle | i'll throw a comp with some mmo at them, that should keep them quiet |
| 14:59.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | angayelle: won't work :P |
| 14:59.39 | dardack | whoa new raid markers are cool |
| 14:59.49 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ok going |
| 14:59.52 | angayelle | then i'm doomed |
| 14:59.55 | MoonWitch|Mobile | mom' again pissed off at me |
| 15:00.06 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I'm only good for chores and giving her my paycheck |
| 15:00.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | murder is sure to follow one day |
| 15:00.16 | dardack | heh |
| 15:00.17 | angayelle | time to fly, little bird |
| 15:00.37 | dardack | yea my parents never made me give them my paycheck, but my wife's did |
| 15:00.39 | dardack | wierd |
| 15:01.22 | Kraps | in-laws pfft |
| 15:01.25 | dardack | ooh i like the worgen fain art |
| 15:01.53 | alestane | "fain"? |
| 15:02.10 | dardack | ok i said i couldn't spell |
| 15:02.11 | dardack | fan |
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| 15:04.22 | dardack | ok guess i've never killed gamon, who is he? |
| 15:05.15 | Katawa | Part of an old rogue pickpocket quest. |
| 15:05.38 | Katawa | Abused constantly by horde. |
| 15:06.07 | Kraps | http://www.abanet.org/publiced/preview/briefs/pdfs/09-10/08-1448_RespondentAmCuActivisionBlizzard.pdf |
| 15:06.42 | dardack | ahh |
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| 15:11.00 | Fisker | what's so awesome about it Kraps ? |
| 15:11.36 | Kraps | Fisker: penis |
| 15:11.52 | Fisker | penis indeed |
| 15:12.13 | Thunder_Child | does penis make everything awesome? |
| 15:12.38 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: boobs actually |
| 15:12.56 | Thunder_Child | so boobs actually makes everything awsome? |
| 15:13.38 | Kraps | yes |
| 15:16.17 | Ackis | 485 junkboxes til I'm "insane" |
| 15:16.17 | angayelle | slap boobs on a man, it will be more effective in terms of awesomeness than giving a penis to a girl |
| 15:16.35 | angayelle | you already are ackis |
| 15:16.51 | Kraps | ^ |
| 15:16.58 | Thunder_Child | are you giving a bad nae to dickgirls? |
| 15:17.20 | Fisker | dicknippleshit |
| 15:17.27 | Fisker | or dickshitnipples |
| 15:17.43 | angayelle | well not really, i got some secret files from my japan times that are quite into that |
| 15:18.07 | Kraps | decides its time to back away |
| 15:20.07 | Fisker | ah shitting dick nipples |
| 15:20.13 | Kraps | whats on the actual cata cds? just an unlock code? |
| 15:20.14 | Fisker | almost got it though |
| 15:20.25 | Fisker | there's probably some cool cataclysm art |
| 15:20.35 | Fisker | i think the unlock code is in the case |
| 15:20.38 | Fisker | or on a manual in the case |
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| 15:24.26 | Computerpunk | is there any addon which does a countdown till cata? |
| 15:24.34 | Nob-AFK | Yes |
| 15:24.43 | Computerpunk | k |
| 15:24.43 | Computerpunk | :p |
| 15:24.45 | Nob-AFK | I saw on eon a blog ill see if i can find u a link in a moment |
| 15:24.46 | Computerpunk | then I'm useless. |
| 15:24.51 | Nob-AFK | one* |
| 15:25.05 | Nob-AFK | aww Computerpunk: I don't think your useless =P |
| 15:25.09 | Computerpunk | ;o |
| 15:25.12 | Computerpunk | Then who art thou? |
| 15:25.16 | nevcairiel | just obsolete |
| 15:25.21 | Computerpunk | lal. |
| 15:25.27 | Nob-AFK | lol |
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| 15:26.03 | Nobgul | I was lurking =P |
| 15:26.22 | Computerpunk | k |
| 15:26.23 | Computerpunk | I'm HSing. |
| 15:26.27 | Nobgul | lol |
| 15:27.51 | Kraps | oh, i totally forgot about the sc2 marketplace |
| 15:28.08 | Kraps | they didnt mention it at this years blizzcon |
| 15:28.19 | Arrowmaster | actually they did |
| 15:28.29 | Kraps | yeah? |
| 15:28.55 | Arrowmaster | during the sc2 moding panel they said they still planed to have it at some point |
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| 15:30.20 | alestane | ...OH NOES: http://static.sc2mapster.com/base/images/404kitten.jpg?r=650ba7347e |
| 15:31.03 | Kraps | black & white lolcats |
| 15:31.06 | Nobgul | lol |
| 15:31.14 | Kraps | the next level in art |
| 15:36.48 | Napoleone | who used vim? |
| 15:37.31 | Napoleone | thawt iz zo cutz |
| 15:38.03 | Napoleone | why isnt the layers setting properly? i got the SetDrawLayer on each texture |
| 15:39.04 | Humbedooh | you mean; why is it ordering it randomly? :> |
| 15:39.10 | Napoleone | ye |
| 15:39.14 | Humbedooh | it just does :\ |
| 15:39.25 | Humbedooh | it's a work in progress and such I guess |
| 15:40.10 | Kraps | http://www.next-gen.biz/features/the-battle-for-starcraft-ii?page=0%2C0 |
| 15:40.23 | Humbedooh | if you're working within the same layer, there's no knowing which texture will be on top |
| 15:40.55 | Napoleone | actually tey got each layer. |
| 15:40.59 | Napoleone | and still its random |
| 15:41.11 | Humbedooh | how are you setting the layers? |
| 15:41.20 | Humbedooh | as in, giev code, not api reference |
| 15:41.33 | Humbedooh | and yay, beta servers down :\ |
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| 15:41.56 | dardack | before i reloadui, can i "Selling %sx%s worth %s" set that as variable and work like i think it should? |
| 15:41.58 | Zasurus | Is there a lua function to establish if a string is a number? |
| 15:42.07 | dardack | yes |
| 15:42.14 | Napoleone | http://pastey.net/142789 |
| 15:42.32 | Humbedooh | lua> tonumber("123.45") |
| 15:42.32 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: 123.45 |
| 15:42.33 | Napoleone | dont care how it looks. untill everything works.. its a mess till i get it optimized |
| 15:42.52 | Humbedooh | lua> tonumber("not a number") |
| 15:42.52 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: nil |
| 15:43.11 | Zasurus | lua> tonumber("13.3bad") |
| 15:43.11 | lua_bot | Zasurus: nil |
| 15:43.22 | Zasurus | cool thanks! :-) |
| 15:43.47 | Zasurus | thought that pulled a number out of a string! LOL didn't know it only pulled back a number if the whole string was a number :-) |
| 15:44.23 | dardack | lua> local x=""Selling %sx%s worth %s"; local y = "test"; local z="2"; local zz = "34"; print(format(x, y, z, zz)) |
| 15:44.23 | lua_bot | dardack: luabot:1: '=' expected near '%' |
| 15:44.29 | Humbedooh | works with hex stuff too |
| 15:44.33 | dardack | lua> local x="Selling %sx%s worth %s"; local y = "test"; local z="2"; local zz = "34"; print(format(x, y, z, zz)) |
| 15:44.33 | lua_bot | dardack: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'format' (a nil value) |
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| 15:44.42 | Humbedooh | lua> tonumber("FFFFFF", 16) |
| 15:44.42 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: 16777215 |
| 15:44.47 | angayelle | then if you want to pull a number out of a string which contain text and numbers, you need something else |
| 15:44.55 | Humbedooh | yes |
| 15:45.13 | angayelle | dardack, format need args |
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| 15:45.29 | dardack | yea, x is a string with args |
| 15:45.29 | Humbedooh | you'd do: local number = ("here is 12345"):match("(%d)+") |
| 15:45.31 | Humbedooh | or something |
| 15:45.40 | dardack | was hoping i could make a variable |
| 15:45.42 | Zasurus | angayella:No that's what I wanted thanks. I THOUGH it did something else so was ignoring it! LOL |
| 15:46.11 | Humbedooh | dardack: use x:format(arg1,arg2,arg3...) |
| 15:46.31 | Humbedooh | lua> local x="Selling %sx%s worth %s"; local y = "test"; local z="2"; local zz = "34"; print(x:format(y, z, zz)) |
| 15:46.31 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: Selling testx2 worth 34 |
| 15:46.45 | dardack | oh what's xformat |
| 15:46.48 | dardack | didn't know about that |
| 15:46.56 | dardack | !lua xformat |
| 15:46.56 | batbot | dardack: > nil |
| 15:47.02 | Humbedooh | it means "string.format(x, ...)" |
| 15:47.05 | Humbedooh | since x is a string |
| 15:47.08 | dardack | ahh |
| 15:47.11 | dardack | nice nice |
| 15:47.12 | angayelle | xformat doesn't exist |
| 15:47.13 | dardack | ty ty |
| 15:47.28 | Humbedooh | if X is [object], then X:func means object.func(X) |
| 15:47.32 | dardack | so if my variable was named LWIW_SellingVarString it would be LWIW_SellingVarString:Format |
| 15:47.36 | dardack | format |
| 15:47.42 | angayelle | yes |
| 15:47.43 | Humbedooh | yea |
| 15:47.44 | dardack | awesome dind't know that |
| 15:47.46 | dardack | ty |
| 15:48.02 | Humbedooh | that's about as close as you get to object oriented programming with Lua ;> |
| 15:48.26 | Lunessa | statiomn |
| 15:48.31 | Lunessa | er, station |
| 15:49.03 | alestane | Station! |
| 15:49.06 | Humbedooh | hmm Napoleone, you're setting texture layers alright, but you're not setting frame stratas or anything |
| 15:49.26 | Humbedooh | so I wouldn't know what'd be top or bottom |
| 15:50.15 | Humbedooh | also, the way you're referencing UI objects makes me cry ;( |
| 15:50.29 | Napoleone | like i said its a mess till i got something working ;P |
| 15:51.27 | Humbedooh | don't create so many frames unless you need to, one frame should be able to contain all the textures |
| 15:51.38 | Napoleone | i know |
| 15:51.41 | Napoleone | actually |
| 15:52.00 | Napoleone | if i add the texture for the moon or sun it gets resized |
| 15:53.08 | angayelle | cause you didn't specify the size of it |
| 15:53.31 | Humbedooh | in 4.0.x, textures default to their native size |
| 15:54.59 | angayelle | nvm that was on hte wronh pastey |
| 15:55.02 | angayelle | wrong* |
| 15:58.35 | Kraps | hey how do i buy more bank slots in bagnon? |
| 15:58.46 | Kraps | nvm |
| 15:58.49 | Tuller | show the bag frame on the bank, click a bag :P |
| 15:59.23 | Kraps | yeah :/ |
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| 16:02.38 | Kraps | yay for more bank space |
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| 16:03.49 | Napoleone | hmm time to invite 300 lvling people so i can get shitload of cash |
| 16:05.18 | Lopeppeppy | mrp? |
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| 16:09.39 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: One of the new guild perks is bonus cash that goes directly to the guild bank. |
| 16:11.22 | Computerpunk | Napoleone, I recommend guild recruiter. |
| 16:11.27 | Computerpunk | but blizz will have builtin |
| 16:12.20 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 16:12.39 | Zasurus | Who knows about GIT Version Control System? Or more specificly thenaming convention it uses for alpha releases? For example I know SVN uses r1 or r23420932 etc I think Mercurial is the same but Git... All I can find out is Git returns something like "v0.1-873fc1" which looks complex as hell! :-O |
| 16:12.42 | industrial | pug wiping in BRD FTW |
| 16:12.48 | industrial | long walks -_- |
| 16:14.54 | Arrowmaster | Zasurus: git uses sha-1 hashes |
| 16:15.25 | Zasurus | Right so they are really huge! LOL OK will ignore them! ;-) |
| 16:15.38 | Zasurus | Arrowmaster: Thanks :-) |
| 16:16.11 | Arrowmaster | Zasurus: what you just mentioned was the 'git describe' output which is a combination of the most recent tag in the history, how many commits away it is from the current commit, and the first 6 characters of the sha-1 hash of the current commit |
| 16:16.30 | Napoleone | setframelevel is that for frames or textures aswell? |
| 16:17.03 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/item=44615#comments:id=1141302 |
| 16:17.53 | Napoleone | lol |
| 16:17.58 | Zasurus | I see. Thanks. It was from the documentation for the Curseforge packager. The value it replaces @project-version@ with. I don't think it is much help so will stick away from it! SVN looks much nicer. ;-) |
| 16:18.02 | Zasurus | At least for now |
| 16:18.05 | Computerpunk | http://artoftrolling.memebase.com/2010/10/26/youtube-troll-the-best-troll-youll-see-all-week/ sfw |
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| 16:19.42 | angayelle | poor candle |
| 16:20.02 | alestane | You no take! |
| 16:22.11 | Kalroth | Adys: http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome?view=rev&revision=65749 who are their new friends? |
| 16:23.04 | Computerpunk | Kalroth, they prolly merged with some group. |
| 16:23.18 | Kraps | http://comics.com/zoom/340956/ |
| 16:23.41 | Arrowmaster | yuck, ViewVC |
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| 16:49.25 | Kraps | amro: how much did you pay for street fighter? |
| 16:55.14 | sylvanaar_work | Computerpunk: i had never seen "Art of trolling" before |
| 16:55.31 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 16:55.58 | Computerpunk | just stumbled upon it in my history |
| 16:58.08 | dardack | did something change why isn't campanion_learned firing anymore? |
| 16:58.28 | Kraps | sylvanaar; you can see the whole network on the bottom of the page |
| 16:58.57 | sylvanaar_work | yeah i am familiar with most of the other ones, but the troll one is new to me |
| 17:00.27 | dardack | nvm i'm idiot i changed the name of the frame to add tabs, and never changed it when registering events |
| 17:00.29 | dardack | ignore me |
| 17:02.15 | dardack | and never called the load funcion onload, gah srsly i musta been sleeping when writing this added code |
| 17:03.36 | sylvanaar_work | man they love mormon.org |
| 17:04.23 | greppy | does anyone have a link to the, I think, Chinese video of an arcane mage blowing up saurfang? |
| 17:04.50 | Kraps | holy crap this is cool http://www.wowpedia.org/Atramedes |
| 17:04.55 | dardack | um does /console reloadui fire <OnLoad> for a frame, |
| 17:05.28 | Nobgul | Yes |
| 17:05.46 | Nobgul | Kraps: I am sorry sir but I will have to ignore you. You are the bane of my work day =P |
| 17:05.50 | dardack | why isn't it working |
| 17:06.18 | dardack | not it does |
| 17:06.21 | dardack | that was wierd |
| 17:06.23 | sylvanaar_work | btw /reload works just as well as /console reloadui |
| 17:06.28 | Kraps | Nobgul: i will fight you in noble combat |
| 17:06.44 | Nobgul | sylvanaar: If you have ace lib's installed. By default /reload is not part of the wow api |
| 17:06.51 | Nobgul | Umm. Nvm |
| 17:06.52 | sylvanaar_work | yes it is |
| 17:06.59 | sylvanaar_work | you are thinking of /rl |
| 17:07.09 | Nobgul | Yer. realized that after i spoke =P Sorry |
| 17:07.38 | Nobgul | Kraps: Coose your battleground! Just make sure its not 25v25 cause they got removed =P |
| 17:07.42 | dardack | wait /reload? no wonder /reloadui not working |
| 17:08.05 | Kraps | heh |
| 17:08.25 | dardack | i was like this is tedious typeing /console relaodui made a macro |
| 17:08.29 | Nobgul | If you reload alot you could do what i did made a minimap icon that when you push it just reloadui |
| 17:08.45 | Nobgul | Cause i reload alot while changing code, |
| 17:08.45 | sylvanaar_work | if you have bugsack installed |
| 17:08.52 | sylvanaar_work | you can shift click its icon |
| 17:08.58 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 17:09.12 | dardack | me to nobgul, and no bugsack here i should install that |
| 17:09.24 | dardack | it still captures errors even if interface help display lua errors is off right? |
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| 17:09.41 | Nobgul | Yes. |
| 17:10.12 | Nobgul | The default error capture is arcane. |
| 17:10.21 | sylvanaar_work | you should always install bugsack |
| 17:10.24 | sylvanaar_work | imo |
| 17:10.42 | dardack | yea for some reason Gatherer bugs on me instances even tho I've verified Astrolabe is updated in the other 2 addons that use it (wim/TomTom) |
| 17:10.57 | dardack | and the default sux |
| 17:11.13 | dardack | so yea i just haven't reinstalled bugsack i used to have it, no idea why i dont' anymiore |
| 17:11.16 | Nobgul | I guess its ok for end users. |
| 17:11.35 | dardack | there a ldb plugin for it? |
| 17:11.51 | sylvanaar_work | its its own |
| 17:12.15 | dardack | cool |
| 17:12.16 | sylvanaar_work | its an interface to !Buggrabber |
| 17:12.28 | adys_ | Shirik |
| 17:13.47 | Nobgul | err |
| 17:13.56 | Nobgul | I need to hire a assistant i think |
| 17:16.58 | Shirik | adys_? |
| 17:17.05 | adys_ | Shirik, what did you need yesterday |
| 17:17.17 | Shirik | nothing |
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| 17:19.13 | sylvanaar_work | http://pictureisunrelated.memebase.com/2010/11/07/wtf-photos-videos-has-just-leveled-up/ |
| 17:19.23 | sylvanaar_work | thats funny |
| 17:19.40 | Nobgul | hehe |
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| 17:19.59 | Ackis | hey everyone, does it disturb you that I'm sitting here without a shirt or pants on talking to you? |
| 17:20.01 | Ackis | loves days off. |
| 17:20.15 | Napoleone | aslong as buffbars work.. not really ;p |
| 17:21.50 | adys_ | Ackis |
| 17:21.58 | adys_ | please tell us more about your clothes, and the lack thereof |
| 17:22.23 | nevcairiel | doesnt wear pants either when at home |
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| 17:23.00 | Ackis | i'm actually wearing shorts today just no shirt... IMMA MANLY RAWR |
| 17:23.11 | Ackis | ok back to teh xbox, scott pilgrim is calling me name I think |
| 17:23.24 | Nobgul | The hell with him take the girl |
| 17:23.26 | Nobgul | =P |
| 17:24.42 | sylvanaar_work | isnt it cold in canada Ackis? |
| 17:24.49 | Lunessa | Adys: Don't encourage him, we'll all be scarred. |
| 17:25.31 | Nobgul | lol |
| 17:25.53 | sylvanaar_work | what is a scott pilgim? anyone know? |
| 17:25.57 | Nobgul | A movie |
| 17:26.00 | sylvanaar_work | ah |
| 17:26.03 | Nobgul | Scot Pilgram vs the world |
| 17:26.17 | Nobgul | TLDW: Hot chick, shitty movie |
| 17:26.32 | Lunessa | Which is based on a graphic novel and lots of video game references. |
| 17:26.56 | Nobgul | Yer the video game refrences were good. Esp like the mario coins lol |
| 17:27.21 | Nobgul | But overall I put it in the same league as the Mega Man movie |
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| 17:29.18 | industrial | How many SEO experts does it take to change a light bulb, lightbulb, light,bulb, lamp, lighting, lightswitch, switch, energy? |
| 17:29.53 | Nobgul | 1? |
| 17:30.12 | Kraps | thats pretty good industrial |
| 17:30.14 | cog|work | i lold |
| 17:30.17 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 17:30.19 | Fisker | die cog|work |
| 17:30.21 | Nobgul | I missed it |
| 17:30.21 | Fisker | die die die |
| 17:30.33 | cog|work | aggros a creeper onto Fisker |
| 17:30.35 | alestane | How many surrealists does it take to change a light bulb? |
| 17:30.49 | Shirik | less than a heavy bulb |
| 17:30.56 | alestane | ...fish. |
| 17:30.59 | cog|work | How many gnomes does it take to screw in a light bulb? |
| 17:31.06 | Nobgul | How many Gm's does it take to clear Toc 10 heroic? |
| 17:31.27 | cog|work | (a: 2, but how the hell did they get in there?) |
| 17:31.34 | Nobgul | None: Addidtional instances canno't be launched. |
| 17:31.38 | Lunessa | Nobgul: ./kill done. |
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| 17:32.16 | sylvanaar_work | alestane: how many |
| 17:32.26 | Kraps | alestane: surrealism is great |
| 17:32.37 | alestane | sylvanaar_work: Fish. |
| 17:32.50 | sylvanaar_work | oh that was the punchline |
| 17:32.51 | alestane | I said. |
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| 17:33.10 | sylvanaar_work | i thought you were replying to Shirik |
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| 17:36.39 | Shirik | I love my guild |
| 17:36.51 | Shirik | "Thanks to you, we had more people die on heroic gunship than on Marrowgar, Saurfang, Rotface and BQL (all on heroic) combined! I don't know how you sleep at night, knowing that. Though I do have to give you credit for at least not jumping off the ship before the fight started." |
| 17:36.53 | Nobgul | Why is that? |
| 17:37.04 | Nobgul | LOL |
| 17:37.39 | sylvanaar_work | they say that to you? |
| 17:37.41 | Nobgul | Was that a forum post they sent you" |
| 17:37.42 | Shirik | no |
| 17:37.46 | Shirik | that was at some other guy |
| 17:38.06 | Kraps | harsh |
| 17:38.07 | Nobgul | Have you guys ever herd of puggernaut? |
| 17:38.24 | sylvanaar_work | sounds x-rated |
| 17:38.32 | Nobgul | I <3 my guild though they gave me a Mechanohog 2 days ago =X |
| 17:39.13 | sylvanaar_work | im still trying to find a guild |
| 17:39.21 | Nobgul | What realm u on? |
| 17:39.30 | sylvanaar_work | Zul'Jin now |
| 17:39.49 | Nobgul | You should come to Draenor where progression is measured in content cleared per month =P |
| 17:40.01 | sylvanaar_work | =P |
| 17:40.24 | Nobgul | My 2 guilds are 10th and 14th on the realm so i am lucky |
| 17:40.26 | Kraps | Lunessa: * There's no gear in here! *puts Succulent Clam Meat on head* |
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| 17:41.02 | Napoleone | now my textures dissappears lol |
| 17:41.09 | Lunessa | wonders where he can get some of whatever Kraps is smoking. |
| 17:41.40 | Kraps | lololol its written in the guild bank |
| 17:41.57 | sylvanaar_work | some days i want to /wrists http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27607285991&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 17:42.29 | sylvanaar_work | "Please know that I am not going to reset my WTF folder. " |
| 17:42.53 | Nobgul | lol |
| 17:43.15 | Nobgul | "please note that i don't care if you reset your folder, it wil help the server congestion if you do not" |
| 17:43.50 | sylvanaar_work | its funny because he then reports it to me as a prat bug |
| 17:44.00 | sylvanaar_work | !! |
| 17:44.10 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 17:44.18 | dardack | so yea i failed, released an update to my addon i had only checked on toons with mounts 50+, and toon with under 14 land or under 14 flying or combo of both, had many errors, yea i fail |
| 17:44.30 | sylvanaar_work | because he deleted his wtf folder, and got prat's defaults |
| 17:44.54 | Nobgul | is it even possiable for a addon to "crash wow" |
| 17:45.00 | sylvanaar_work | yes |
| 17:45.09 | dardack | infinite loop |
| 17:45.11 | Nobgul | Guess i have been lucky and never seen one or created one. |
| 17:45.13 | dardack | i just wrote one by mistake |
| 17:45.15 | sylvanaar_work | apparently, my chattabs module can crash wow |
| 17:45.28 | Nobgul | in prat? Umm i think i have it enabled |
| 17:45.42 | Nobgul | I think i have all the modules loaded accually |
| 17:45.54 | sylvanaar_work | i dont know how they do it, but some people manage to crash wow by draging chatframes around |
| 17:46.26 | Lunessa | Kraps: Odd, I'll look at it when I get home. |
| 17:46.28 | Nobgul | sylvanaar_work: I have had the game hang when draggin 2 windows across each other. |
| 17:46.28 | dardack | yea i don't know |
| 17:46.29 | sylvanaar_work | (it only hapens to like 0.1% of people) |
| 17:46.43 | sylvanaar_work | Nobgul: o really |
| 17:46.46 | dardack | sometimes i think they have crappy memory, so when wow accesses that sector (and addons contribute to that) it crashes |
| 17:47.06 | dardack | o really? let me see, like which windows? |
| 17:47.09 | amro | Kraps: on steam? |
| 17:47.16 | Nobgul | If i have say the paperdollframe open and try to move my healbot over to that corner. It will hang for a second. |
| 17:47.16 | amro | $40 |
| 17:47.23 | amro | total ripoff, but didn't have a choice |
| 17:47.26 | Kraps | Lunessa: nah its funny, the whole description is |
| 17:47.28 | Kraps | Use this stuff to gear yourself up! DUH! |
| 17:47.29 | Kraps | * There's no gear in here! *puts Succulent Clam Meat on head* |
| 17:47.42 | Nobgul | Or if I accidently move my healbot over my recount. |
| 17:47.52 | sylvanaar_work | i thought you meant chatframes when you said windows |
| 17:48.01 | Nobgul | Ah naw never had a issue with prat |
| 17:48.03 | durcyn | well, i think i found your problem, you're using that healbot heap of shit |
| 17:48.04 | dardack | wait syl, that dude reported the 132 error as a prat error? |
| 17:48.10 | amro | Kraps: why? is it on sale now? |
| 17:48.15 | Nobgul | durcyn: I was waiting for that lol |
| 17:48.20 | Kraps | i guess the tab used to be for gear but now its for cooking mats |
| 17:48.38 | Kraps | so someone made a funny |
| 17:48.38 | Napoleone | ok ecplain why this is happening to only 1 texture.. i make a setpoint for it. and it dissappears |
| 17:48.48 | dardack | setpoint to where? |
| 17:48.50 | Nobgul | Sooo. durcyn: what would you suggest? |
| 17:49.08 | Napoleone | +10 on the x-axis to the same line that setpointed it on init |
| 17:49.28 | sylvanaar_work | dardack: i really dont know |
| 17:50.16 | Kraps | amro: no, its $30 on steam, which seems like a lot to me |
| 17:50.21 | dardack | sylvanaar_work: ahh |
| 17:50.40 | amro | Kraps: it is a lot, steam fails |
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| 17:50.51 | Kraps | hey now! |
| 17:51.05 | dardack | what's alot? what y'all buying/ |
| 17:51.16 | amro | street fighter IV |
| 17:51.18 | sylvanaar_work | dardack: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10783-Prat3.0.html#comments |
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| 17:51.31 | amro | it's practically worthless now that SSF4 is out |
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| 17:52.02 | sylvanaar_work | "And please. Do not respond to this until you have read the official forums ..." wow |
| 17:52.19 | Nobgul | Hehe |
| 17:52.20 | dardack | sylvanaar_work: wow, more like a curse user than wowI |
| 17:52.30 | Nobgul | I was gonna reply but i have nothing good to say. |
| 17:52.48 | Lulia | So, what are your guys' general philosophy on splitting up code into separate files? |
| 17:52.55 | Lulia | How do you prefer to organize it and why? |
| 17:52.57 | dardack | at least my last bug report was very helpful, he logged onto 10 diff toons with diff mount totals and posted me results of each, was able to fix all my errors in 20 minutes (cause I fail for not testing on toons <50 mounts total) |
| 17:53.17 | Nobgul | Lulia: I was told it is bad juju. Although one of my addon's it is the way i have done it. |
| 17:53.40 | Nobgul | Main folder==> folder for each class==> lua for each spell |
| 17:53.44 | Lulia | I'm not talking about making a bunch of separate little AddOns like Pitbull |
| 17:53.49 | dardack | let's see locatlization into each file, i keep a gui.lua and gui.xml separate (but i know alot dont' use xml anymore) and then a core.lua type |
| 17:54.06 | Lulia | Interesting, Nobgul |
| 17:54.28 | Nobgul | I really never got far on it as someone pointed out a preexisting mod that did the same thing |
| 17:54.29 | dardack | then a data.lua (for any static type lists) |
| 17:54.35 | Lulia | Right now I'm rocking a local "lib" file which contains functions that see a lot of reuse creating stuff, like CreateFont, CreateCheck, etc... |
| 17:55.01 | Lulia | And an "init" file which just runs through basic loading stuff dealing with saved variables and defaults |
| 17:55.14 | Lulia | And then the main info file which contains EVERYTHING else |
| 17:55.16 | dardack | yea if i ever break down my xml into lua i would do that lulia |
| 17:55.27 | sylvanaar_work | now that blizzy supplies the addon table for every file. its very easy to split up your addon |
| 17:55.28 | dardack | the lib file |
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| 17:55.47 | Lulia | I'm considering maybe making a separate file for each resource type, since my AddOn deals with resources, just to sort of separate those when I'm working on them |
| 17:56.00 | Lulia | The info file is sort of like 2k lines long |
| 17:56.11 | dardack | but i really like splitting any gui from the core, but my LootWhatIWant when creating a GarbageFU like LDB plugin, i did keep that in the core, instead of splitting it out as itself, and now i wish i had |
| 17:56.22 | Nobgul | Lulia: My reason for seperating the addon the way i did was to make it easier for people to modify, and add to the addon. |
| 17:56.25 | Napoleone | why when i getpoint it return what it was initial was set to.. not what it is now |
| 17:56.41 | Nobgul | Napoleone: Your setpoint wasn't saved? |
| 17:56.42 | dardack | i hope no one ever uses my addon to learn lua, i'm a mess |
| 17:56.48 | Nobgul | lol dardack |
| 17:57.13 | Napoleone | i throught running name:SetPoint() kinda saved it |
| 17:57.14 | dardack | dude srsly, someone came and cleaned up my initial LWIW addon, i've since made it a mess again |
| 17:57.36 | Lulia | I'm considering the split both to make it easier on me to manage bits of code, rather than scrolling through one file with several thousands of lines and because it will hopefully help direct others to relevant code if they read it |
| 17:57.45 | Lulia | So if I split stuff dealing with resources into resource files |
| 17:57.46 | dardack | ok explain something, why do some addons when disabled on 1 specific toon get disabled globally? |
| 17:57.56 | Lulia | They could look at how I handled DK stuff by looking at the Runes file |
| 17:58.03 | Nobgul | Napoleone: It should unless your working on a diffrent "version" of the file. I have done that. |
| 17:58.03 | Lulia | or Eclipse stuff by looking at the Eclipse file |
| 17:58.09 | dardack | lulia: do it to save yourself, it's the reason i've been looking at dismatling the XML files down |
| 17:58.30 | dardack | i mean 30% or more is redundant creating stuff with slightly different names |
| 17:58.45 | Napoleone | well setting a point in the addon, then in wowlua setting a new point. and then trying a getpoint |
| 17:59.44 | Nobgul | Napoleone: The only thing i can think of is that if the setpoint is invalid it will default to center it hinks |
| 17:59.48 | Nobgul | thinks* |
| 18:00.09 | Napoleone | hm |
| 18:00.17 | Nobgul | Not sure that could be your issue, but sounds close. |
| 18:00.25 | Napoleone | and if you have a setpoint in onupdate then the tex dissappears |
| 18:00.32 | Napoleone | or this ONE of 3 does lol |
| 18:00.45 | Napoleone | well the tex moves around fine lol |
| 18:01.03 | Nobgul | Hehe. Umm are they all in the same arean overlaping each other? |
| 18:01.10 | Napoleone | nop |
| 18:01.14 | Nobgul | i need a spell checker for irc. |
| 18:01.17 | Napoleone | actuyally next to eachother ;P |
| 18:01.23 | Napoleone | I'm in testing phase |
| 18:01.24 | Nobgul | Hrmm i was thinking that they could be hidden somehow |
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| 18:01.36 | Napoleone | well thats why i put em next to eachother |
| 18:01.39 | dardack | sigh and my recommendation to anyone, start doing localization at start of mod, so you don't have to traverse through it all at end and do it |
| 18:02.26 | Kraps | is 608x336 widescreen? |
| 18:02.37 | olafski | I'd say so |
| 18:02.40 | Lulia | I don't know how to do localization |
| 18:02.46 | olafski | aspect ratio 1.8 ;) |
| 18:03.07 | olafski | or just skip localization :) |
| 18:03.25 | dardack | can't with mount addon if you want it used outside your language |
| 18:03.51 | dardack | mine translated into Rus/fr/chinese i believe |
| 18:04.04 | dardack | or i couldn't before, now that i just have all mounts as a data list by item# it doesn't matter i guess |
| 18:04.29 | olafski | yeah I'd say use item ids :) |
| 18:04.50 | dardack | well before i was scanning tooltip to determine if flying or land |
| 18:05.02 | dardack | now i just have a data list with all mounts so i don't have to do taht anymore |
| 18:05.53 | dardack | anyways, i try now to have some localization, just incase someone wants to translate all the text to their language |
| 18:07.27 | Kraps | http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/aspectratios/widescreenorama.html |
| 18:07.47 | Nobgul | Kraps:!!! |
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| 18:07.59 | Kraps | Nobgul: !!!! |
| 18:08.07 | Nobgul | you and the links lol |
| 18:08.22 | Kraps | how could that be interesting to you right now :/ |
| 18:08.44 | Nobgul | I clicked on it. Wasn't interesting but it wasted 45 seocnds =P |
| 18:08.52 | Nobgul | heh |
| 18:09.20 | Nobgul | I am accually done with my work now. Now to create a New co-guild website and calander 0_o |
| 18:11.10 | Kraps | scott pilgrims sister is hot |
| 18:11.27 | Zasurus | Apart from looping though a string with strfind() is there an easyer way to get the number of times character exists in a string? Only way I can come up with is: |
| 18:11.32 | Zasurus | lua > local stringOne = "V102-3-4kfd"; local curPos = strfind(stringOne, "\-"); local count = 0; while (curPos and (count < strlen(stringOne))) do count = count + 1; curPos = strfind(stringOne, "\-",curPos + 1); end; print(count); |
| 18:12.24 | Zasurus | lua>local stringOne = "V102-3-4kfd"; local curPos = strfind(stringOne, "\-"); local count = 0; while (curPos and (count < strlen(stringOne))) do count = count + 1; curPos = strfind(stringOne, "\-",curPos + 1); end; print(count); |
| 18:12.24 | lua_bot | Zasurus: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'strfind' (a nil value) |
| 18:12.44 | Zasurus | lua>local stringOne = "V102-3-4kfd"; local curPos = string.find(stringOne, "\-"); local count = 0; while (curPos and (count < strlen(stringOne))) do count = count + 1; curPos = strfind(stringOne, "\-",curPos + 1); end; print(count); |
| 18:12.44 | lua_bot | Zasurus: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'strlen' (a nil value) |
| 18:12.54 | Zasurus | lua>local stringOne = "V102-3-4kfd"; local curPos = string.find(stringOne, "\-"); local count = 0; while (curPos and (count < string.length(stringOne))) do count = count + 1; curPos = strfind(stringOne, "\-",curPos + 1); end; print(count); |
| 18:12.54 | lua_bot | Zasurus: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'length' (a nil value) |
| 18:13.14 | Zasurus | lua>local stringOne = "V102-3-4kfd"; local curPos = string.find(stringOne, "\-"); local count = 0; while (curPos and (count < string.len(stringOne))) do count = count + 1; curPos = string.find(stringOne, "\-",curPos + 1); end; print(count); |
| 18:13.14 | lua_bot | Zasurus: 2 |
| 18:13.32 | Zasurus | Phew lol so any idea of a simpler way? :-D |
| 18:13.32 | sylvanaar_work | wow you filled my screen |
| 18:14.01 | Zasurus | yer didn't know strfind etc wasn't standard ;-) |
| 18:14.47 | foxlit | lua> select(2, ("V102-3-4kfd"):gsub("%-")); |
| 18:14.47 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected) |
| 18:14.52 | Maldivia | considered downloading lua and running it locally for testing things like that? |
| 18:14.52 | foxlit | lua> select(2, ("V102-3-4kfd"):gsub("%-", "")); |
| 18:14.52 | lua_bot | foxlit: 2 |
| 18:15.05 | Humbedooh | lua> local count, line = 0, "1-2-3-4------67"; line:gsub("%-", function() count = count++ end); print(count) |
| 18:15.05 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '+' |
| 18:15.08 | Humbedooh | pfft |
| 18:15.15 | Humbedooh | lua> local count, line = 0, "1-2-3-4------67"; line:gsub("%-", function() count = count+1 end); print(count) |
| 18:15.15 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: 9 |
| 18:15.22 | Humbedooh | that's one way |
| 18:15.23 | Zasurus | Maldivia: Didn't mean to test it here. It works in wow ment to just show you! :-D |
| 18:16.41 | Zasurus | Thats foxlit and humbedooh... will go look at those two :-) Thanks AGAIN! ;-) |
| 18:19.16 | Lulia | How odd, P_E_W fires before ADDON_LOADED O.o |
| 18:19.45 | Humbedooh | well d'uh ;p |
| 18:19.50 | Nobgul | heh |
| 18:19.55 | Humbedooh | no sense in loading addons if you're not online :> |
| 18:20.08 | Lulia | I was fairly certain it happened the other way around |
| 18:20.11 | Nobgul | I was gonna say i thought P_E_W fired before everything |
| 18:20.12 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 18:20.38 | Lulia | I use P_E_W to grab information I don't have when AddOn loaded fires though |
| 18:20.41 | Lulia | That's the odd thing |
| 18:20.54 | Maldivia | Lulia: is the addon LOD? |
| 18:20.57 | angayelle | PEW ? |
| 18:21.04 | Nobgul | player_entering_world |
| 18:21.07 | angayelle | k |
| 18:21.07 | Lopeppeppy | player entering... |
| 18:21.08 | Lopeppeppy | right. |
| 18:21.09 | Lulia | No, Maldivia |
| 18:21.14 | Lopeppeppy | I don't type so fast. |
| 18:21.17 | Nobgul | =P |
| 18:21.26 | Nobgul | I do but make many spelling mistakes |
| 18:22.04 | Napoleone | ok something with updating textures to fast makes it fuck up totally |
| 18:22.16 | angayelle | i use PLAYER_LOGIN for all that need to be loaded on start, so far it worked right, got problems getting variables and stuff with all others |
| 18:22.49 | Lulia | oh, I know what I did |
| 18:22.50 | Lulia | lol |
| 18:23.12 | angayelle | forgot to register ? |
| 18:23.18 | Lulia | I forgot to pass the addon |
| 18:23.27 | Lulia | And I was checking for the addon in the function |
| 18:23.33 | Nobgul | I never forget to pass the buck =P |
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| 18:25.33 | angayelle | you use Onupdate to update your textures napoleone? |
| 18:25.56 | Napoleone | how can i fire the same setpoint 2 times and tex dissappears lol |
| 18:26.00 | Napoleone | its sooo spooky |
| 18:30.33 | Napoleone | just as a test untill i get the right events going |
| 18:30.47 | Napoleone | but even when NOT using it.. it has like a 50% chance to vanish lol |
| 18:32.56 | Zasurus | foxlit: Thanks for that I know what the select(2,array) does and that gsub() can subsitue but I had no idea gsub also returned the number of subsitutions it did! Funny thing is it's all on http://www.wowpedia.org/API_gsub which I must have read 10 times but never quite understood it till now! LOL |
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| 18:34.26 | Zasurus | also didn't know you could use gsub like: ("string"):gsub("","") instead of gsub("string","","")! Learing way to fast! ;-) |
| 18:34.29 | angayelle | it happens me all the time zasurus |
| 18:34.48 | Zasurus | Yer really powerfull once you know how to use it! ;-) |
| 18:34.58 | amro | Kraps: http://shoryuken.com/blog/shin_filipino.jpg |
| 18:35.27 | Kraps | amro: ? |
| 18:35.34 | amro | it's awesome |
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| 18:35.59 | amro | Kraps: http://shoryuken.com/content/tokido-poses-akuma-after-landing-raging-demon-ultra-win-2349/ for the full vid |
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| 18:38.05 | Kraps | lol |
| 18:39.41 | Napoleone | I'm close to making Frames instead of multi texture frames now |
| 18:39.55 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa! Sudo take me to lunch? |
| 18:39.57 | Napoleone | moving it = vanish no matter how much i stare on it lol |
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| 18:40.23 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: GTFO |
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| 18:40.52 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: But if you're within a 2 hour drive, I'd take you for lunch. |
| 18:43.22 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle snark* |
| 18:43.29 | dardack | you can't deny the sudo |
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| 18:45.04 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:45.25 | Ironi | could someone point me in right direction how to parse rolls from system messages, i have pritty much tried everything from how to's in wowpedia and i can't seem to get it work at all :( |
| 18:45.40 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 18:45.41 | Lopeppeppy | He didn't deny me, he cleverly put me off until I move down south. :) |
| 18:45.42 | Napoleone | 2 sec |
| 18:46.16 | Fisker | did you see how i just slapped you Lopeppeppy ? |
| 18:46.23 | Napoleone | Ironi what exactly? the chat message? or the rolls? |
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| 18:46.49 | Ironi | name of the roller and the roll |
| 18:46.57 | Ironi | and range of the roll ;P |
| 18:47.03 | Napoleone | thats from the CHAT_MSG |
| 18:47.12 | Napoleone | aaah |
| 18:47.17 | dardack | right and you get arg1 right |
| 18:47.25 | dardack | so you parse arge 1 for word rolls |
| 18:47.37 | Napoleone | CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM and arg1 yes |
| 18:47.39 | dardack | at start of rolls go back -2 to first for toon |
| 18:47.50 | dardack | and then find first ( |
| 18:47.53 | Maldivia | ~framexml |
| 18:47.53 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 18:47.54 | Napoleone | nop |
| 18:47.58 | Napoleone | easier ;P |
| 18:48.00 | dardack | go from end +2 roll to start of ( |
| 18:48.26 | dardack | prolly is an easier way |
| 18:48.32 | dardack | was just going off top of head |
| 18:48.47 | angayelle | i think he want to know how to make a parse of a text |
| 18:48.54 | Napoleone | ye |
| 18:49.04 | Napoleone | I'm dead tired and trying to remember how myself 2 sec |
| 18:49.14 | dardack | oh |
| 18:49.33 | dardack | local start, end = string.find(text, "text to find" |
| 18:49.41 | dardack | or wait prolly faster easier way |
| 18:49.55 | Napoleone | another way thats more simple if you look on the structure that never changes |
| 18:50.00 | Ironi | http://www.wowpedia.org/Parsing_event_messages , i tried those |
| 18:51.11 | Ironi | and now it looks like: newpattern = string.gsub(string.gsub(string.gsub(string.gsub(RANDOM_ROLL_RESULT, "(%%s)", "(.+)"), "(%%d)", "(.+)"), "(%%d)", "(.+)"), "(%%d)", "(.+)") , but that doesn't seem to work |
| 18:51.17 | dardack | !api roll |
| 18:51.17 | lua_bot | Found 55 possible matches for 'roll'. Please be more specific |
| 18:51.27 | dardack | !api chat_msg_roll |
| 18:51.27 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'chat_msg_roll'. |
| 18:51.32 | Ironi | tho it doens't give any errors, but it doesn't do anything eather |
| 18:51.34 | amro | !api barrel_roll |
| 18:51.34 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'barrel_roll'. |
| 18:51.40 | amro | you're screwed |
| 18:51.49 | Napoleone | local name, event, roll, range = strsplit(" ", arg1,4) |
| 18:51.50 | adys_ | !api roll |
| 18:51.50 | lua_bot | Found 55 possible matches for 'roll'. Please be more specific |
| 18:51.54 | adys_ | !api _roll |
| 18:51.54 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for '_roll': START_LOOT_ROLL, CANCEL_LOOT_ROLL, CONFIRM_LOOT_ROLL, CONFIRM_DISENCHANT_ROLL |
| 18:51.54 | Napoleone | there |
| 18:52.14 | Napoleone | the roll is in CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 18:52.18 | Ironi | its Chat_msg_system -> Random_roll_result |
| 18:52.19 | dardack | ahh |
| 18:52.20 | Maldivia | lua> local l = "Someone rolls 33 (1-100)" print(l:match("(%w+) rolls (%d+) %((%d+)%-(%d+)%)")) |
| 18:52.20 | lua_bot | Maldivia: Someone, 33, 1, 100 |
| 18:52.43 | angayelle | maldivia saved you day, ironi |
| 18:53.03 | haste | Maldivia: better to match for %S+, and not %w+ |
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| 18:53.42 | angayelle | bye peoplez, going back home, gah i thought i could do some coding but worked all day |
| 18:54.10 | Maldivia | haste: yeah ok, w is alphanumerical |
| 18:54.23 | haste | I know what %w means |
| 18:54.26 | Ironi | ty, ill try that |
| 18:54.33 | Maldivia | haste: I was just confirming :P |
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| 18:56.48 | Maldivia | lua> ("héllo"):match("%w+") |
| 18:56.48 | lua_bot | Maldivia: h |
| 18:57.25 | haste | hence why I recommend %S+ |
| 18:58.18 | dardack | ok how can i keep bag_update from firing twice right in a row |
| 18:58.27 | dardack | does the event pass an elasped? |
| 18:58.38 | nevcairiel | no, bag_update will just fire alot |
| 18:58.38 | haste | no |
| 18:58.40 | nevcairiel | you cant stop it |
| 18:59.00 | durcyn | bucket it. |
| 18:59.03 | dardack | does it pass an elapsed? |
| 18:59.07 | haste | no |
| 18:59.11 | dardack | damn |
| 18:59.18 | haste | you can throttle it yourself tho' |
| 18:59.24 | haste | just queue up updates for when you have to |
| 18:59.24 | dardack | how? |
| 18:59.33 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I love you too. *hug* |
| 19:00.42 | dardack | heoretically it has to update every loot, i do wait until everything has been looted, but still firing twice right in a row sux even when looting 1 thing |
| 19:00.50 | dardack | was hoping an elapsed to throttle it a bit |
| 19:01.23 | dardack | !api time |
| 19:01.24 | lua_bot | time: Returns the numeric time value for a described date/time (or the current time) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/time) |
| 19:01.49 | Nobgul | So is the inspect issue I am having local to me or is it a blizz thing>? |
| 19:01.58 | Katawa | It's fairly common at the moment. |
| 19:02.07 | dardack | can i call time and check if it's under .5 seconds diff and skip? |
| 19:02.41 | Nobgul | I figured as much but thank you Katawa. I can log out and login and get the "Gearscore" of the closest 5 people to me. |
| 19:02.50 | dardack | ahh it only gives seconds not miliseconds |
| 19:02.52 | dardack | hmmm |
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| 19:05.31 | alestane | http://www.despair.com/myopinion.html |
| 19:06.52 | Nobgul | Sometimes i swear companies don't want to make money. Crappy customer service. |
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| 19:07.24 | dardack | eh lots of people complain about blizz but i think their service has been great, so it's a piont of view? |
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| 19:07.55 | Lopeppeppy | And people rarely speak about normal customer service, or good customer service. It has to be "outstanding' before we bother to weigh in on it. |
| 19:08.00 | greppy | it's kind of like many companies, everything works great until you have a problem. |
| 19:08.07 | Nobgul | Not talking about blizz. But yea they have always taken care of me. |
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| 19:09.52 | Nobgul | The Data Center where my servers are hosted. I shipped a new server and they lost it for 2 weeks, I lost the customer. They found the server and had the nerve to invoice me for rackpace. When I told them I refuse to pay for something I didint use they turned off my other 4 servers. |
| 19:10.37 | greppy | Nobgul: eww. |
| 19:10.58 | Nobgul | So of course to stop from losing all my customers I paid the bill. But shit on them I just finished migrating all the data to a new server this morning. |
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| 19:11.03 | dardack | man this computer sux, through looping through the tooltips of 4 items for Classes: was causing lag, but even with that commented out and bagupdates still .1 second lag, so put it back in. And yea the time() was able to throttle update to at least wait 1 second |
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| 19:11.50 | Nobgul | So I sent in a cancelation notice giving them 30 days notice. Now they tell me I have to go to texas to pickup the servers they will not ship them to the new data center. >_< |
| 19:12.45 | greppy | Nobgul: they won't ship them even if you pay the shipping? |
| 19:14.43 | dardack | much better |
| 19:14.43 | Nob-Away | Aparently, they will take them off the rack and put them in storage but they will not pack and ship. I even offered to sign a waiver of damage. But it's ok I got a friend in tx he said he would get them. The new data center is only 9 blocks away >< |
| 19:15.03 | greppy | nice |
| 19:15.09 | dardack | son of a |
| 19:15.19 | dardack | i thought isusable would fire on shields on my dk |
| 19:15.24 | Nob-Away | But I am off to go break some php code. This stupid wow realm status script is killing me. |
| 19:15.34 | greppy | got to fly on two days notice out of milwaukee to seattle to deal with a DC glitch one time. that sucked. |
| 19:16.31 | Nob-Away | greppy: I co-owned a hosting company registered in Cali. My partner didin't pay the noc fees and took the money, the data center took 40 servers hostage for payment. |
| 19:16.46 | Nob-Away | They let him slide on fees for 6 months >< |
| 19:16.51 | greppy | ewwwwwwwww, you win. |
| 19:17.12 | greppy | did they ever find your ex-partners body? |
| 19:17.27 | Nob-Away | Yerp. Now I only deal with customers I can reach and strangle. |
| 19:17.47 | Nob-Away | greppy: Sadly enough he got into business with another guy, I warned him and did it again. |
| 19:17.51 | greppy | has a friend that works under that theory. |
| 19:18.38 | greppy | being able to go, literally, stand on someones desk is a great thing sometimes. |
| 19:18.44 | Nob-Away | I just don't get the whole situation. But oh well. Back to building my evil WoW Website Empire Muhahaha |
| 19:18.54 | cog|work | i think minecraft is making me afraid of the dark >< |
| 19:19.30 | Nob-Away | I tried playing it again last night the play.jsp or w/e and couldnt figure out how to do anything but break things >< |
| 19:19.46 | Nob-Away | I am sure there are tools etc but meeh |
| 19:20.44 | Netcurse | cog|work use http://painterlypack.net/ |
| 19:20.46 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 19:20.49 | Fisker | you suck |
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| 19:21.57 | aX0rZ | say i have a FontString anchored to a point on the left aswell as a point on the right so if text is too long it gets truncated |
| 19:22.13 | aX0rZ | how can i get the length of the truncated string (in pixel)? |
| 19:22.40 | cog|work | Netcurse: i like quandry better. splotchblock is pretty neat too, but in a completely different direction |
| 19:22.41 | aX0rZ | because :GetWidth() and :GetStringWidth() only return the value of the length of the full string |
| 19:23.41 | cog|work | GetWidth shouldn't do that imo |
| 19:23.54 | dardack | !api isusableitem |
| 19:23.54 | lua_bot | IsUsableItem: Returns whether an item can currently be used (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsUsableItem) |
| 19:24.12 | Ironi | haha, i finally found out why this addon didn't do anything |
| 19:24.31 | Ironi | xml file was named "gamlber" instead of "Gambler" |
| 19:24.32 | dardack | so no way to test if your toon can equip an item without creating a table? |
| 19:24.33 | Ironi | ... |
| 19:24.35 | aX0rZ | cog: well according to http://www.wowpedia.org/UIOBJECT_FontString :GetWidth() does as intendet |
| 19:24.36 | Ironi | took only few hours |
| 19:24.42 | aX0rZ | but there is no way mentioned to get truncated lenght |
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| 19:31.59 | Lunessa | I'm about to walk through the building and smack every person that sends out 4MB attachments to the entire campus. |
| 19:32.21 | alestane | St. Dogbert ventures out to exorcise the demons of stupidity. |
| 19:33.20 | dardack | that really sux the isusable returns true even if your current toon can't use it |
| 19:33.55 | Fisker | alestane |
| 19:34.00 | Fisker | i'm not sure i can be stopped :( |
| 19:37.41 | alestane | Dare I ask from what? |
| 19:38.25 | Fisker | killing people |
| 19:38.36 | Lulia | So, more questions of general scripting philosophy: Someone mentioned to me that they like to put all of their events on one frame and use a logic statement in order to separate out which event fired and then do what they need to based on that. There's the obvious gain of less frames being created, plus it organizes events into one location, but are there drawbacks or potential problems? |
| 19:39.35 | dardack | it's what i do |
| 19:39.41 | dardack | but no idea the drawback |
| 19:39.45 | Nob-Away | Correct me if i am worng but a chart that shows things ina graphic representation with lines connecting the relationships is a topology chart right? |
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| 19:40.03 | alestane | That description is way too general. |
| 19:40.24 | Nob-Away | 8 computers networked with a server in the middle and lines representing the relationships? |
| 19:40.48 | alestane | That, you could reasonably call a topology chart. |
| 19:40.49 | Nob-Away | Nvm I got it but thank you. |
| 19:41.24 | Nob-Away | I asked this guy for a Network Topology chart and he said whats that. For a second I thought i had lost it. |
| 19:43.12 | alestane | No, that makes sense. |
| 19:44.41 | Fisker | i was stopped alestane :( |
| 19:44.57 | Tuller | hrm, dual 24s may have been a bad idea on my part |
| 19:45.05 | alestane | Oh good, Fisker. |
| 19:45.45 | Fisker | i disagree |
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| 19:47.45 | Lunessa | Tuller, lots of screen space is always a good idea, but what causes you to doubt? |
| 19:48.07 | Tuller | have to turn my head to see it all, it just requires me to do a bit of work on how everything is setup |
| 19:48.43 | Fisker | hey Lunessa |
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| 20:06.03 | nevcairiel | Tuller: it took me some time getting used to it, had to adjust my seat position slightly to be more in the center, but it worked out quite well |
| 20:07.04 | durcyn | run them in portrait, Tuller |
| 20:07.18 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:07.29 | Tuller | portrait is theory |
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| 20:08.02 | Kraps | what the HELL, i was helping someone operate their yahoo mail account, that thing is so shit |
| 20:08.09 | nevcairiel | wonder how WoW would deal with that screwed up resolution |
| 20:08.37 | Kraps | he had freaking sex spam on his welcome page! |
| 20:08.48 | Shirik | Shadowed, (or anyone) can I request you look at a replay to get some advice? |
| 20:09.41 | Dagmar | "We've noticed that your display appears to be set to an awful aspect ratio. Do we need to add a paperclip to tell you how to run things? [Yes] [Okay] [Confirm]" |
| 20:13.01 | amro | Shirik: build more marauders |
| 20:13.06 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:13.11 | Shirik | I haven't even shown you the replay |
| 20:13.24 | amro | you don't need to, any terran problem can be solved with enough marauders |
| 20:13.29 | amro | but more seriously, got a link to it? |
| 20:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | We require more vespene gas? |
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| 20:13.36 | alestane | It wouldn't change his advice, Shirik. |
| 20:13.38 | Shirik | getting hit by void rays? MORE MARAUDERS |
| 20:13.42 | amro | yes |
| 20:13.45 | amro | you can kill his base faster |
| 20:15.36 | Nob-Away | lol |
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| 20:16.22 | Shirik | where are SC2 replays even stored? |
| 20:16.28 | NeoTron | hmm. can't seem to place waypoints with tomtom on the world map |
| 20:16.34 | NeoTron | all it does it so zoom out :( |
| 20:16.42 | NeoTron | (on beta) |
| 20:17.03 | Dagmar | Did you set the modifier key, and did you push that? |
| 20:17.08 | amro | Shirik: ~/My Documents/Starcraft II/ |
| 20:17.31 | NeoTron | it's alt by defauly and I don't see a way to change it |
| 20:17.52 | NeoTron | sorry Ctrl |
| 20:18.06 | cog|work | Shirik: http://www.sc2replayed.com/forums/sc2replayed-forums/general-discussion/189-information-about-replay-files |
| 20:18.12 | cairenn | Nobgul: I know you are ;) |
| 20:18.15 | Shirik | I refuse to click that |
| 20:18.23 | Nobgul | cairenn: =O |
| 20:18.34 | Nobgul | Hides in the shadows! |
| 20:18.43 | cairenn | heh |
| 20:18.53 | cog|work | Shirik: O.o |
| 20:19.12 | cairenn | also ... WoWI. WoWUI == incgamers :p |
| 20:19.24 | Shirik | amro: http://shiibot.com/shirik.SC2Replay |
| 20:19.33 | Shirik | Don't give me crap about my mess-up in the first 10 seconds |
| 20:19.39 | amro | Oops! This link appears to be broken. |
| 20:19.43 | nevcairiel | oh but you know he will |
| 20:19.57 | amro | now I'm wondering what it is |
| 20:19.59 | Shirik | Copied to wrong folder, trying again |
| 20:20.03 | amro | it's probably what happens to me every game |
| 20:20.07 | amro | clicking right next to the mineral patches |
| 20:20.10 | Shirik | nah |
| 20:20.20 | cog|work | Shirik: use sc2replayed.com imo... |
| 20:20.23 | Shirik | it was probably more at 30 seconds |
| 20:20.24 | Shirik | cog|work: no |
| 20:20.27 | Nobgul | Hehe I know. If that was directed at me =P |
| 20:20.34 | cog|work | Shirik: yes |
| 20:20.35 | Shirik | no |
| 20:20.38 | cog|work | :P |
| 20:20.52 | Nobgul | iz confuzled now. |
| 20:21.12 | cairenn | Nobgul: it was |
| 20:21.40 | cairenn | re-read your response to me, you'll see why I said it ;) |
| 20:21.46 | Nobgul | Ah lol ok |
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| 20:22.28 | amro | fail, there's been a patch |
| 20:22.32 | amro | to fix thors of all things :( |
| 20:22.39 | Shirik | thors were OP |
| 20:22.40 | Shirik | obviously |
| 20:22.47 | amro | yes, sniping those medivacs. |
| 20:22.50 | Nobgul | cairenn: Was my reply flawed? Either way nope =) |
| 20:22.55 | amro | did anyone even get thors in TvT? |
| 20:23.00 | Shirik | no |
| 20:23.06 | Shirik | did anyone even get thors ever? |
| 20:23.07 | Shirik | no |
| 20:23.22 | Nobgul | Shirik: Did you watch the err mlg matches last week? |
| 20:23.27 | Shirik | no |
| 20:23.31 | Shirik | far too busy |
| 20:23.50 | Nobgul | Some of them were good. I think they have replay's up on the site. |
| 20:23.53 | adys_ | Woooh |
| 20:24.02 | Lulia | Hmm |
| 20:24.03 | adys_ | I switched from Lab 2 to Lab 3 on google preview |
| 20:24.03 | adys_ | :3 |
| 20:24.10 | adys_ | feels switched |
| 20:24.32 | amro | switched adys_ |
| 20:24.39 | amro | s* |
| 20:24.41 | amro | fail |
| 20:24.42 | adys_ | gg |
| 20:25.11 | Lulia | Anyone know by what variable name ADDON_LOADED passes the name of the addon that has loaded? If I condense all my events down to one handler I decided to go with a function like so: function(frame, event, ...) using the variable arguments to capture any possible arguments from frames I could be concerned with. |
| 20:25.39 | alestane | cog|work: re minecraft, http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/9/20/ |
| 20:25.52 | adys_ | !api addon_loaded |
| 20:25.52 | lua_bot | ADDON_LOADED: Fires when an addon and its saved variables are loaded (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ADDON_LOADED) |
| 20:25.55 | adys_ | Lulia, checked that? |
| 20:26.52 | Lulia | d'oh |
| 20:26.56 | Lulia | >.> |
| 20:27.02 | Lulia | I've read that before too |
| 20:27.29 | nevcairiel | why does the "name" of the variable matter, anyway? |
| 20:28.05 | Nobgul | Cairenn: Sent you a amended reply when you get a moment =P |
| 20:28.11 | cairenn | just read it |
| 20:28.14 | Nobgul | lol |
| 20:28.15 | cairenn | and yeah, I had understood |
| 20:28.17 | cairenn | :) |
| 20:29.02 | Lulia | Because I'm not explicitly stating the variable, nevcariiel, so I have to use whatever it would pass through the variable parameters |
| 20:29.15 | Lulia | But, sadly, I don't think it passes it through if the parameters are variable |
| 20:29.28 | Lulia | Well, I've located a downside to condensing all of my events to one frame >.> |
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| 20:30.34 | olafski | people use more than one frame for their events? |
| 20:30.56 | Lulia | I did, trying to condense them right now |
| 20:31.18 | olafski | so.. if (event == ADDON_LOADED) do stuff else if (event == SOMETHING_ELSE) do stuff end |
| 20:31.22 | Lulia | But if I'm trying to grab variables passed by the event, it'll cause issues since not all events return the same arguments |
| 20:31.27 | Lulia | Right |
| 20:31.28 | olafski | don't really see why you'd want the name of the variable |
| 20:31.43 | Lulia | Because I want to see if the addon that loaded is mine |
| 20:31.55 | Lulia | Which, previously, I simply passed "addon" through the event handler function |
| 20:31.58 | olafski | doesn't this varargs let you access it by a number? |
| 20:32.22 | olafski | I've never actually used it I think.. most other languages I know which have varargs present them like an array |
| 20:32.41 | NeoTron | hrm doesn't seem like WorldMapButton_OnClick is called, at least not the tomtom modified version |
| 20:32.41 | Lulia | I'll read it again and see if I missed something |
| 20:33.39 | Lulia | >.> |
| 20:33.41 | Lulia | "When this function is called, all its arguments are collected in a single table, which the function accesses as a hidden parameter named arg. Besides those arguments, the arg table has an extra field, n, with the actual number of arguments collected. " |
| 20:33.44 | Lulia | I'm an idiot |
| 20:33.53 | Shirik | amro, any commentary? |
| 20:34.04 | amro | Shirik: still patching |
| 20:34.07 | amro | it's only now launching |
| 20:34.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 20:34.23 | alestane | That's old, Lulia. |
| 20:34.25 | nevcairiel | Lulia: that information sounds like its years old |
| 20:34.28 | nevcairiel | pre BC |
| 20:34.37 | nevcairiel | the arg table hasnt been present since WoW 2.0 |
| 20:34.42 | alestane | arg hasn't been used since Lua 5.1 hit. |
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| 20:35.18 | Lulia | Well, how does it pass through variable arguments then? |
| 20:35.24 | Lulia | That's the pil for 5.2 |
| 20:35.31 | nevcairiel | using ... |
| 20:35.35 | Lulia | explaining how a function handles variable arguments |
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| 20:35.39 | Lulia | http://www.lua.org/pil/5.2.html |
| 20:35.42 | Ironi | mhh, any idea why " minroll, maxroll, name, roll = string.find(arg1, "(.+) rolls (.+) %((.+)%-(.+)%)"); " doesn't give max roll amount, it gives number of characters instead of it :| |
| 20:35.42 | Lulia | I know that |
| 20:35.47 | nevcairiel | 5.2 is the chapter |
| 20:35.49 | Lulia | I meant how do I reference the variables |
| 20:35.50 | nevcairiel | not the lua version |
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| 20:35.56 | nevcairiel | and the pil is for Lua 5.0 |
| 20:36.07 | nevcairiel | there is multiple ways |
| 20:36.10 | nevcairiel | easiest |
| 20:36.15 | nevcairiel | local var1, var2, var3 = ... |
| 20:36.23 | Lulia | O.o |
| 20:36.26 | nevcairiel | you can also access them by index |
| 20:36.29 | Lulia | It's referred to as ... ? |
| 20:36.32 | nevcairiel | local var3 = select(3, ...) |
| 20:36.32 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:36.35 | Shirik | no |
| 20:36.36 | Lulia | >.> |
| 20:36.36 | Shirik | noooooooo |
| 20:36.41 | Shirik | please don't use select() |
| 20:36.42 | nevcairiel | Shirik: shut it |
| 20:36.45 | alestane | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.9 |
| 20:36.45 | Lulia | Erm |
| 20:36.55 | Computerpunk | _, _, var3, = ... |
| 20:37.18 | alestane | Both work. |
| 20:37.25 | haste | all work |
| 20:37.43 | Shirik | one of these things is not like the other |
| 20:37.44 | nevcairiel | Shirik: teaching new devs to not use select will just make them think to use tables instead, and horrible things happen |
| 20:37.45 | Lulia | What's wrong with select? O.o |
| 20:37.58 | haste | it's a function call |
| 20:38.02 | nevcairiel | you can optimize once you understand how stuff works |
| 20:38.13 | Lulia | I only use select in if statements |
| 20:38.14 | alestane | It's just slower tan assignment, Lulia. |
| 20:38.24 | alestane | than* |
| 20:38.28 | Lulia | But I tend to use what Computerpunk posted |
| 20:38.29 | NeoTron | ah fixed it |
| 20:38.32 | Lulia | if I'm defining a variable |
| 20:38.38 | Shirik | Hopefully with local |
| 20:38.41 | Lulia | right |
| 20:38.42 | nevcairiel | i'm not a big fan of a line full of crap variables |
| 20:38.51 | Shirik | I'm a fan of my patch for Lua |
| 20:38.55 | Shirik | but I don't think they'll introduce it |
| 20:39.08 | industrial | what kinda patch |
| 20:39.15 | nevcairiel | var = select(10, ...) > _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, _, var = ... |
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| 20:39.21 | Shirik | It lets you do ...[10] instead of select(10, ...) |
| 20:39.38 | Shirik | (without all the overhead) |
| 20:40.24 | Lulia | hi, Cairenn |
| 20:40.36 | moonwitch|mobile | is there a way to access the win event viewer from linux? |
| 20:40.37 | nevcairiel | even if they were to accept it, its irrelevant for our use-case |
| 20:40.40 | Cairenn | hi |
| 20:40.46 | Shirik | no it's not o.o; |
| 20:40.50 | nevcairiel | sure it is |
| 20:40.51 | Shirik | You just proposed select(3, ...) |
| 20:40.57 | Shirik | I would instead propose ...[3] |
| 20:40.57 | nevcairiel | Blizz isnt likely to update Lua |
| 20:40.59 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:41.01 | Shirik | well yes |
| 20:41.48 | nevcairiel | with all the modifications for taint tracking and whatnot, it would probably be hard, too |
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| 20:42.01 | Shirik | I'll just get a job at blizzard, introduce that patch, then quit |
| 20:42.13 | Lulia | :P |
| 20:42.20 | Nobgul | lol |
| 20:44.11 | amro | Shirik: why no stim? |
| 20:44.16 | amro | that's a must |
| 20:44.19 | Shirik | Did I really forget to research stim? |
| 20:44.20 | amro | especially on a 4rax |
| 20:44.22 | amro | yes |
| 20:44.27 | Shirik | That was just an accident then |
| 20:44.29 | Shirik | I usuall have it |
| 20:44.37 | amro | how do you not notice during a fight though? |
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| 20:44.42 | amro | you were also on 1 gas for way too long |
| 20:44.57 | Shirik | If I have enough gas to get by |
| 20:45.11 | amro | nonsense, you also had enough minerals to get by |
| 20:45.17 | Shirik | no I didn't |
| 20:45.17 | amro | onec you tech up, you suddenly need WAY more gas |
| 20:45.20 | Shirik | I could certainly use minerals |
| 20:45.21 | amro | it's better to bank it |
| 20:45.27 | amro | you were saturated on minerals |
| 20:45.32 | amro | at least in your main |
| 20:45.52 | amro | maybe the reason you were low on minerals is because you didn't have the gas for gas heavy units |
| 20:45.57 | amro | like medivacs |
| 20:46.06 | amro | which you couldn't tech to quickly enough because you were on 1 gas |
| 20:47.31 | amro | and about the 2v2, I feel there wasn't enough scouting |
| 20:47.36 | amro | you kinda suicided that first army as a result |
| 20:47.39 | Shirik | yeah I know |
| 20:48.02 | amro | ironically, my earlier blind advice still applies |
| 20:48.06 | foxlit | There's some video of Shirik getting butchered somewhere? |
| 20:48.10 | amro | they were going stalker/roach, more marauders would have been good. |
| 20:48.15 | amro | no, they won |
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| 20:48.34 | foxlit | consider statement suitably amended. :) |
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| 20:49.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | my explorer keeps crashing, I feel so special... |
| 20:49.58 | MoonWitch|Mobile | (let mom on the laptop for 10 min .. unsupervised.. I am sorely regretting it) |
| 20:51.19 | Lopeppeppy | Virus! Malware! Panic! |
| 20:51.32 | MoonWitch|Mobile | not really panic no |
| 20:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | My mom could barely use a microwave, a computer she wouldn't have bothered even trying. |
| 20:52.47 | Shirik | foxlit: http://shiibot.com/shirik.SC2Replay |
| 20:53.10 | foxlit | meh, I'd have to watch that in a fullscreen sc2 window :( |
| 20:54.22 | amro | yeah, having full control of the replay is such a bummer |
| 20:54.29 | MoonWitch|Mobile | sorry |
| 20:54.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | my screen went black and I finally got some error |
| 20:55.05 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Lopeppeppy: at this point - I am indeed thinking malware, but I am also locked out of safe mode |
| 20:55.15 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, that's not a good sign there. |
| 20:55.32 | MoonWitch|Mobile | took the machine 10 min to open task manager |
| 20:56.04 | MoonWitch|Mobile | which then crashes .. I need fing safe mode |
| 20:56.24 | amro | Shirik: I closed the replay, is nobin still doing that whack 9gate build? |
| 20:56.29 | MoonWitch|Mobile | strangely everything crashes -- but pidgin stays working lol |
| 20:56.32 | amro | I just spotted the early probe moving out but didn't check what it did |
| 20:56.36 | Shirik | nobin is a moron |
| 20:56.43 | Shirik | it's for scouting |
| 20:56.45 | amro | I'm gonna tell |
| 20:56.49 | Shirik | go ahead |
| 20:56.49 | amro | who scouts at 9? |
| 20:56.51 | Shirik | I tell him myself |
| 20:56.53 | Shirik | at 9? |
| 20:56.57 | Shirik | that's not for |
| 20:56.57 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:56.57 | amro | 9 supply |
| 20:56.59 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:57.00 | Shirik | yeah |
| 20:57.03 | Shirik | he's a moron I told you |
| 20:57.08 | Shirik | He also builds a pylon at 7 |
| 20:57.24 | Shirik | and then he doesn't build any probes in between 4:00 and 6:00 |
| 20:57.30 | Shirik | (he claims it slows him down) |
| 20:57.34 | dardack | or if i register events to a frame, then with the frame LootWhatIWant_Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", LootWhatIWant_EventHandler), in the handler when Addon_Loaded is called, how can i determine if it was my addon |
| 20:57.34 | Shirik | This is why I need a new 2v2 partner |
| 20:58.07 | dardack | oh dang on function eventhandler(self, event) do i gotta add arg1? |
| 20:58.14 | amro | also, was that the same bennet from the funday monday? |
| 20:58.19 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:58.21 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 20:58.48 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwdPqQLYh0c if you haven't seen it yet |
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| 21:10.16 | dardack | ok srsly, i have addon_loaded hooked, but under eventhandler when it's fired, arg1 never ever equals my addon |
| 21:10.29 | cog|work | what is this arg1 you're speaking of? |
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| 21:11.02 | dardack | the name of the addon that's loaded |
| 21:11.10 | cog|work | sorry subtle point was subtle... arg1 doesn't exist any more |
| 21:11.29 | dardack | then why does it properly print other addon names |
| 21:11.35 | dardack | am i not passing right var's |
| 21:11.51 | dardack | !api addon_loaded |
| 21:11.52 | lua_bot | ADDON_LOADED: Fires when an addon and its saved variables are loaded (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/ADDON_LOADED) |
| 21:12.07 | adys_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHFlF1nAhYg&feature=related |
| 21:12.07 | cog|work | do you mean the first argument to your event handler or are you actually trying to access the "arg1" variable? |
| 21:12.32 | dardack | my eventhandler: function eventhand(self, event, arg1) |
| 21:12.34 | dardack | my hook |
| 21:12.42 | dardack | LootWhatIWant_Frame:SetScript("OnEvent", LootWhatIWant_EventHandler) |
| 21:12.43 | cog|work | ok. that's different then. ignore me. |
| 21:12.56 | dardack | am i missing something? |
| 21:12.59 | cog|work | probably |
| 21:13.12 | dardack | yea i don't know how to access name that wowprogramming mentions |
| 21:13.21 | cog|work | addon loaded will fire for every addon loaded whether it's yours or not. also i think it's the folder name not the name in the toc |
| 21:14.32 | dardack | ok, and i get taht, but when i have if event =="ADDON_LOADED" then print(arg1) only like 7 addon names get printed |
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| 21:17.56 | dardack | banging head, i can't see any reason it doesn't work |
| 21:18.20 | cog|work | pastey your test |
| 21:19.32 | dardack | it's not a test |
| 21:20.04 | dardack | i mean i just used to leave in without a check that it was my addon |
| 21:20.11 | dardack | but i didn't want it initializing many times |
| 21:20.30 | cog|work | i just meant whatever is necessary for "when i have if event =="ADDON_LOADED" then print(arg1)" |
| 21:20.44 | dardack | kk |
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| 21:22.31 | dardack | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142810 |
| 21:23.57 | dardack | that print(arg1) prints informant, DBM_MC, Blizzard_CombatText, Gatherer_HUD, Auc-ScanData, Blizzard_combatlog/Timemanager, and that's it even tho i have other addons |
| 21:24.50 | Arrowmaster | youll only see the events for addons loading after your addon, not the ones for addons already loaded when yours starts loading |
| 21:25.23 | dardack | ok then why don't i see mine? |
| 21:26.19 | Mera | LootWhatIWant_EventHandler is a local function |
| 21:27.42 | dardack | ok it's local? it's obviously being called |
| 21:28.39 | cog|work | Mera: that's irrelevant |
| 21:28.45 | cog|work | the function is passed to :SetScript |
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| 21:30.00 | dardack | ok nvm some other addon must be blocking the printing |
| 21:30.05 | dardack | cause disabling all but LWIW |
| 21:30.09 | dardack | it correctly prints |
| 21:30.10 | Mera | you mean it does not work or that is not the error |
| 21:30.32 | Mera | because it does work witgh a local function too but not sure is the error |
| 21:30.56 | dardack | so I guess it's possible that some addon locks something? I don't know, i just added a true/false if it was initilized once |
| 21:31.34 | dardack | seems to have fixed the error i was getting complaing my list was nil but should be populized on init |
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| 21:34.07 | adys_ | i swear |
| 21:34.10 | adys_ | I will shoot Xchat |
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| 21:37.39 | dardack | i use smuzi |
| 21:37.41 | dardack | or smuzi |
| 21:37.43 | dardack | smuxi |
| 21:37.45 | dardack | something like that |
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| 21:42.54 | dardack | ok now wtf, why does GetContainerNumSlots(bag) return 0 on my 2-4 bags when they aren't? |
| 21:44.14 | dardack | oh dang so that returns 0, if the bag hasn't had a bag_update called on it? |
| 21:46.22 | dardack | !api NUM_BAG_SLOTS |
| 21:46.24 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'NUM_BAG_SLOTS'. |
| 21:47.51 | foxlit | wish sc2 wouldn't ask for passwords when launching a replay |
| 21:48.39 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 21:48.46 | Fisker | google just cooked gingerbread |
| 21:49.10 | Fisker | wish foxlit wouldn't QQ |
| 21:49.34 | foxlit | log in as guest works, though |
| 21:50.43 | Fisker | i think you're right though |
| 21:50.56 | Fisker | give us a replay client everyone can use |
| 21:51.40 | dardack | !api GetContainerNumSlots |
| 21:51.41 | lua_bot | GetContainerNumSlots: Returns the number of slots in one of the player's bags (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetContainerNumSlots) |
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| 21:58.02 | SqueeG | has anyone ever played with Self? |
| 21:58.06 | SqueeG | ...that sounded bad |
| 21:58.45 | haste | ~asktoask |
| 21:58.45 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 21:58.46 | haste | >:3 |
| 21:59.00 | SqueeG | i didn't ask to ask |
| 21:59.21 | haste | you did nearly the same thing! |
| 21:59.25 | Fisker | haste |
| 21:59.25 | SqueeG | Nowai! |
| 21:59.26 | Fisker | fuck me |
| 21:59.29 | haste | sure |
| 21:59.39 | Fisker | yes |
| 21:59.43 | Nobgul | How hard? |
| 21:59.44 | haste | I'm out of lube tho' |
| 21:59.48 | SqueeG | I asked if anyone had ever played around with Self |
| 22:00.12 | haste | which is disconnected and hard to answer, I could say yes and then you'd be satisfied? |
| 22:00.18 | SqueeG | lol |
| 22:00.31 | haste | ask what you really want to ask, and skip the polite parts before it |
| 22:00.42 | SqueeG | bah! |
| 22:01.36 | SqueeG | I was just curious about it |
| 22:01.44 | SqueeG | Was fishing for opinions on it :p |
| 22:02.22 | haste | well, most people probably have no idea what "Self" is |
| 22:02.33 | SqueeG | that's why i *asked* :p |
| 22:02.41 | haste | I can think of a number of things, but I'm not sure which one you are refering too |
| 22:02.44 | haste | s/too/to/ |
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| 22:02.58 | haste | context -- it's lacking |
| 22:03.00 | SqueeG | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_(programming_language) |
| 22:03.47 | haste | next time you ask something which can be general, I suggest that you add some context to it :P |
| 22:04.29 | SqueeG | lol |
| 22:05.03 | SqueeG | Now I'm curious.... what else might I be referring to? |
| 22:05.35 | xanax` | after creating a macro, when you launch it, do you have to click once and all the spells are launched automatically in a row ? |
| 22:05.53 | SqueeG | xanax` no |
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| 22:06.08 | haste | most people in here would probably think of the "keyword" self in Lua |
| 22:06.17 | SqueeG | there's no magic button, you have to click the macro each time to cast a spell |
| 22:06.44 | xanax` | ok i see |
| 22:06.45 | SqueeG | but you can write the macro to que up different spells in a row |
| 22:06.54 | xanax` | that's what I meant |
| 22:07.16 | xanax` | but you would still have to click several times for each spell to be launched ? |
| 22:07.29 | SqueeG | yea, you need to click it to cast each spell |
| 22:07.34 | Nobgul | xanax`: Requires multi button presses and in that case its a castsequence |
| 22:07.34 | SqueeG | in the order that you wrote |
| 22:07.35 | xanax` | hmm ok |
| 22:07.48 | xanax` | thanks a lot |
| 22:07.55 | xanax` | it's clearer now |
| 22:08.00 | Nobgul | don't forget the reset =P |
| 22:08.00 | SqueeG | haste : yea that's the first thing I thought of too |
| 22:08.44 | SqueeG | was just curious to see if there were other things more commonly spoke of named Self :p |
| 22:08.58 | Nobgul | lol |
| 22:09.15 | haste | well, you have already mentioned one of the obvious things :P |
| 22:09.39 | SqueeG | s/spoke/spoken |
| 22:09.48 | SqueeG | s/spoke/spoken/ |
| 22:09.54 | SqueeG | dammit |
| 22:09.55 | SqueeG | fuck it |
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| 22:10.52 | haste | there's no turning back once you fail! |
| 22:11.22 | SqueeG | yarr V_V |
| 22:11.56 | SqueeG | Self syntax loses me quickly >.. |
| 22:11.58 | SqueeG | >.>* |
| 22:15.29 | SqueeG | haha... |
| 22:15.44 | SqueeG | I lose my'Self' trying to read Self |
| 22:15.50 | SqueeG | okay, i'm done |
| 22:16.36 | Fisker | why does haste hate me? |
| 22:16.50 | haste | because you left when you wanted me to fuck you :-( |
| 22:18.17 | SqueeG | =o scandalous |
| 22:19.10 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 22:20.43 | mikecl | is it easy to play a sound from the lua script? |
| 22:21.22 | haste | !api Sound |
| 22:21.22 | lua_bot | Found 19 possible matches for 'Sound'. Please be more specific |
| 22:21.25 | haste | :( |
| 22:22.00 | mikecl | :( |
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| 22:22.57 | mikecl | ok i found PlaySoundFile("path") |
| 22:23.00 | Nobgul | mikecl: Yes it is |
| 22:23.03 | mikecl | can i just put this right in the lua file? |
| 22:23.19 | nebula169 | yar |
| 22:23.40 | mikecl | i want to make this addon make a sound when the internal cooldown expires i think i found where the state change is |
| 22:23.52 | Nobgul | Then that is wrong |
| 22:23.54 | Nobgul | Kinda |
| 22:24.07 | Nobgul | PlaySound("SOUND"); |
| 22:24.15 | Nobgul | would work better imho |
| 22:24.32 | mikecl | why is that |
| 22:24.45 | mikecl | PlaySoundFile is slower? ie not having the file internally? |
| 22:25.07 | nebula169 | PlaySound does predefined sound files |
| 22:25.11 | Nobgul | Playing the sound by file should not be any slower no. |
| 22:25.20 | Nobgul | I was just gonna get there lol but you beat me to it. |
| 22:25.38 | Nobgul | I like MapPing |
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| 22:25.40 | Nobgul | =) |
| 22:25.49 | mikecl | but wouldnt i want a custom sound instead of a builtin sound? |
| 22:25.55 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 22:25.59 | Nobgul | I guess thats up to you |
| 22:26.16 | Nobgul | For my stuff I use the ingame ones. |
| 22:26.43 | mikecl | which sound would you use for the timer expiration? :) |
| 22:27.31 | mikecl | its funny i need to do this, i have the bars flashing in the center of my screen when the cooldown is off, but somehow i still space them out during encounters |
| 22:27.51 | nebula169 | soon you'll tune out the sound aswell :p |
| 22:28.02 | mikecl | not if its very obnoxious |
| 22:28.18 | Nobgul | Mihau MapPing is not to obnoxious |
| 22:28.30 | Mihau | Nobgul: What? |
| 22:28.47 | Nobgul | PlaySound("MapPing"); |
| 22:29.09 | Mihau | Nobgul: Why are you talking to me?! WHO ARE YOU! AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH! |
| 22:29.10 | mikecl | oh |
| 22:29.30 | mikecl | its too quiet lol :p |
| 22:30.42 | Nobgul | -+o |
| 22:30.48 | Nobgul | I are scared! |
| 22:30.57 | bluspacecow | *comforts nobgui* |
| 22:31.03 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 22:31.06 | bluspacecow | i mean nobgul |
| 22:31.10 | Nobgul | lol |
| 22:31.16 | Nobgul | thank you either way =) |
| 22:34.08 | Nobgul | Well seems we killed the convo in here. |
| 22:34.34 | bluspacecow | i am wondering wheter to backup my entire system before upgrading to os 10.6.5 |
| 22:34.45 | bluspacecow | or just doing the update and hoping it don't bork anything |
| 22:35.21 | Nobgul | Didn't blizzard drop support for mac? |
| 22:35.28 | Nobgul | Ie: cata client won't run? |
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| 22:35.40 | bluspacecow | nope |
| 22:35.42 | alestane | You may be thinking that they dropped support for PowerPC. |
| 22:35.46 | bluspacecow | just PowerpC |
| 22:35.47 | bluspacecow | ie |
| 22:35.49 | Nobgul | Ah got ya. |
| 22:36.01 | bluspacecow | that archictecture that was discontinued in 2006 |
| 22:36.05 | bluspacecow | really old |
| 22:36.09 | bluspacecow | creakingly old |
| 22:36.17 | alestane | Four years old. |
| 22:36.19 | Nobgul | Sorry I can't get down with a mac. I can build 4 windows based pc's for the same price |
| 22:36.20 | bluspacecow | yep |
| 22:36.40 | bluspacecow | well the problem was nobgul is that it was getting too hard to get Cata to work with PPC |
| 22:36.41 | Fisker | yes the 32-bit processor is way older than that bluspacecow |
| 22:36.45 | Fisker | and still haven't been discontinued |
| 22:36.51 | Fisker | x86 that is |
| 22:36.52 | Fisker | :;3 |
| 22:36.55 | bluspacecow | that and they can't source parts to build a test machine for PPC |
| 22:37.12 | bluspacecow | well they can but the parts take weeks to arrive :( |
| 22:41.03 | Lunessa | Well, considering that Apple has abandoned the PPC chip, I wouldn't expect software companies to keep trying to support it. |
| 22:41.34 | bluspacecow | exactly |
| 22:41.48 | Shirik | I wouldn't expect companies to keep supporting FORTRAN code |
| 22:41.50 | Shirik | but they do |
| 22:42.03 | Lunessa | So if you want to keep playing WoW on a 5+ year old mac well, sorry. |
| 22:42.27 | bluspacecow | the last major update we got for 10.5.8 which is the last version of the OS to work on PPC last got an update in August 2009 |
| 22:42.27 | SqueeG | that picture of jimmy wales on wikipedia is creepy |
| 22:42.31 | bluspacecow | well technically you can |
| 22:42.35 | SqueeG | is one of his eyes wonky? |
| 22:42.40 | bluspacecow | put it has to be a 5 yr old Intel Mac |
| 22:42.56 | alestane | Fortunately, Lunessa, I picked up a used Intel Mini last year. |
| 22:43.03 | Lunessa | :D |
| 22:43.14 | bluspacecow | @shirik but the same code fortran code still works on those old computers no problem |
| 22:43.32 | bluspacecow | PPC code on Cata was going down more times then a cheap $2 hooker |
| 22:43.36 | Shirik | ^ implying the same old fortran code runs on old computers |
| 22:43.47 | bluspacecow | my apologies |
| 22:43.58 | bluspacecow | but it still works right ? |
| 22:44.08 | mikecl | yay i maed sound |
| 22:44.18 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 22:44.23 | bluspacecow | i can not eat sound |
| 22:44.42 | Lunessa | Shirik: They keep FORTRAN and COBOL around because of huge, entrenched systems that no one genuinely understands anymore. |
| 22:44.53 | Shirik | Lunessa: |
| 22:44.59 | Shirik | It's the ??? in the business model |
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| 22:45.13 | Shirik | 1. Steal underwear |
| 22:45.15 | Shirik | 2. FORTRAN |
| 22:45.17 | Shirik | 3. Profit! |
| 22:45.18 | Lunessa | It's the OMFG THE PAIN, THE PAIN in the business model. |
| 22:45.39 | alestane | I'm pretty sure that every time the Mass RMV has to upgrade their system, they just wrap a new interpreter or front-end or compatibility layer around the old system. |
| 22:45.41 | amro | I'm pretty sure any systems running fortran or cobol are hidden deep inside dungeons |
| 22:46.07 | Nobgul | I would hope so |
| 22:46.22 | alestane | And yes, I think there's a FORTRAN database buried somewhere in the heart of it behind a sigh that says, "HERE THERE BE DRAGONS." |
| 22:46.51 | SqueeG | lol |
| 22:46.55 | bluspacecow | and onerary ogres with neckbeards |
| 22:47.13 | Lunessa | Lest anyone think these are fun languages, let me just say... NO. NO. NO. DO (FUNCTION) UNTIL (RESULT) is not a fun way to build logic. |
| 22:47.20 | SqueeG | omg |
| 22:47.25 | bluspacecow | O_o |
| 22:47.41 | bluspacecow | DO (BONK) UNTIL (___ DROP |
| 22:47.44 | SqueeG | http://www.fortran.com/tutorials.html |
| 22:47.46 | SqueeG | xD |
| 22:47.58 | bluspacecow | I r scared now SqueeG |
| 22:48.02 | SqueeG | hahahaha |
| 22:48.12 | alestane | i.e. in C, something like "do {} while(!functionCall(args));"? |
| 22:48.23 | SqueeG | "We provide on-site training for Fortran 2003, Fortran 90/95, and Visual Fortran. See our training page for more information." |
| 22:49.05 | Lunessa | alestane: Well, honestly, C isn't a lot better. But it is far more flexible. |
| 22:49.37 | SqueeG | the first programmer's reference manual for fortran was written in 1956 O_O |
| 22:50.18 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 22:52.14 | SqueeG | roflmao |
| 22:52.28 | SqueeG | fortran was devised for punch card programming xD holy shit |
| 22:52.40 | bluspacecow | punch card print room orchestra |
| 22:53.06 | amro | I've seen code that keeps catching the same exception and trying again indefinitely |
| 22:53.21 | bluspacecow | infinite loop ? |
| 22:53.23 | amro | maybe it'll work the 12,789th time |
| 22:54.30 | alestane | "[Fortran] is one of the most popular languages in the area of high-performance computing[citation needed] and is the language used for programs that benchmark and rank the world's fastest supercomputers." |
| 22:55.17 | SqueeG | wow... |
| 22:56.04 | bluspacecow | brb need bio then grab some food |
| 22:56.23 | amro | usually it's the other way around |
| 22:59.00 | alestane | "Portability was a problem in the early days because there was no agreed standardânot even IBM's reference manualâand computer companies vied to differentiate their offerings from others by providing incompatible features." |
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| 23:02.09 | Nobgul | ~staple kd3 |
| 23:02.09 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples kd3 quite well, and hands kd3 to nobgul |
| 23:02.16 | kd3 | hm? |
| 23:02.31 | Nobgul | Dunno im bored |
| 23:03.13 | Nobgul | Kraps isn't here to send links to random things |
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| 23:03.37 | amro | we already have a fisker |
| 23:03.53 | Nobgul | lol |
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| 23:08.03 | Amarande | beta people: are there any major addons to watch out for that are going to break when we move from 4.0.1 LK to 4.0.3 Cata? |
| 23:08.08 | nightcracker | sup all |
| 23:08.18 | Amarande | or are there no massive UI changes in the upcoming patch? |
| 23:08.32 | Nobgul | Sup night |
| 23:09.03 | nightcracker | im making a python irc bot |
| 23:11.06 | Jamash | Amarande: afaik archaeology and guild leveling are the only major ui changes from 4.0.1 to 4.0.3 |
| 23:11.37 | Jamash | I can run you off a diff if you'd like |
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| 23:12.27 | Amarande | also, is there documentation yet on exactly how you gain guild rep? is it something you gain automatically as you do things or is it something that you have to be granted by the GM or designated officers? |
| 23:12.44 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 23:12.56 | bluspacecow | ahh a diff file good good |
| 23:12.58 | Jamash | I don't know if there are 100% clear details, but you get it from quests, achievements, guild achievements, leveling, and stuff |
| 23:13.18 | Jamash | oh, completing guild instance runs |
| 23:14.00 | Amarande | wow, good thing we have five all new levels of quests then :) |
| 23:14.08 | Jamash | yeah |
| 23:14.10 | Amarande | and that they didn't introduce the ability to gain guild rep yet |
| 23:14.24 | Jamash | I wish they had -_- |
| 23:14.33 | Amarande | Jamash: that would have an odd and negative side effect |
| 23:14.49 | Amarande | mains would often actually have less rep than alts, because mains at this point usually tend to do little but raid, while alts have a lot of stuff to do on the way up |
| 23:15.41 | Jamash | depends on whether dailies count |
| 23:16.14 | Jamash | and bgs, and heroics |
| 23:16.19 | Jamash | cause mains do those |
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| 23:24.33 | bleeter | what I wanna know is... why my bank alt guild GM is not exalted with her own guild by default |
| 23:24.38 | Lunessa | You get guild rep from anything that would earn you other kinds of rep. Quests (Daily, Dungeon, etc.), Rated BGs, and stuff. |
| 23:24.57 | Lunessa | It also has a weekly cap. |
| 23:25.21 | Jamash | bleeter: to prevent people from swapping guild leadership around to get exalted rewards without doing any work |
| 23:25.26 | bleeter | just coz it sounds amusing when the GM isn't exalted with themselves |
| 23:25.31 | Lunessa | Because Rep unlocks when your stuff counts toward guild achievements. |
| 23:25.39 | bleeter | like some weirdo self-hating-emo-GM |
| 23:25.42 | SqueeG | aw |
| 23:25.50 | SqueeG | OO fortran is no longer supported D: |
| 23:25.53 | Jamash | you're not earning rep with yourself, you're earning rep with "the guild" |
| 23:26.05 | bleeter | Lunessa, Jamash: I relaise this, it's just an amusing take on the mechanic ;) |
| 23:26.11 | Jamash | mmk |
| 23:26.15 | Lunessa | MOAR COFFEE! |
| 23:26.18 | bleeter | Lunessa, Jamash: From an RP point of view |
| 23:26.22 | Jamash | ~emulate bleeter |
| 23:26.23 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 23:26.25 | bleeter | Lunessa: READ MY MIND |
| 23:26.30 | bleeter | Jamash++ |
| 23:26.30 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out of here. See you all on Monday. |
| 23:26.35 | Jamash | ciao |
| 23:26.36 | bleeter | Lunessa: safe travels :) |
| 23:26.47 | Amarande | hmm. |
| 23:26.55 | Amarande | is it going to be ridiculously hard to reach Gnomeregan the instance when Cata hits? |
| 23:27.06 | Jamash | not if the teleporter is still there |
| 23:27.13 | Amarande | like trying to get to Stocks in SW (as horde, that is), but even harder based on how it's built? |
| 23:28.29 | Jerub | Amarande: the teleporter will still work apparrently. |
| 23:28.42 | Jerub | Amarande: plus, LFD |
| 23:34.55 | Amarande | Jerub: yeah, I'm more thinking of toons that never got Gnomer on the way up |
| 23:35.04 | Amarande | also, DKs, who never got to have the levels where they can queue Gnomer or Stocks |
| 23:35.12 | Jerub | Amarande: so the teleporter still works |
| 23:35.21 | Jerub | you know about theteleporter right? |
| 23:35.24 | Amarande | yeah |
| 23:35.27 | Amarande | I should get a transponder, then |
| 23:35.28 | Amarande | if I can |
| 23:35.30 | Jerub | yeah, stil works |
| 23:35.42 | Amarande | since I did almost all Eastern Kingdoms quests on the hunter, and I don't know if they ever fixed the Searing Gorge bug |
| 23:35.48 | Jerub | seeing as it still works, you can use the teleporter that still works |
| 23:37.49 | nightcracker | can one ip adress have multiple connections to Freenode(AKA, can i start the bbot while im logged into irc through client?) |
| 23:38.26 | Jerub | nightcracker: yes, but please be aware there are rules about running irc bots on freenode that you are encouraged to read first |
| 23:38.42 | nightcracker | its not for real |
| 23:38.45 | nightcracker | and only private channel |
| 23:38.51 | nightcracker | but i will read |
| 23:40.24 | olafski | so is guild rep account bound or character bound? |
| 23:41.18 | Jerub | nightcracker: if it's on a private channel, just run it :P |
| 23:41.35 | olafski | and does anyone know how much xp is required to level each level from 80 to 85? |
| 23:41.54 | olafski | and finally, is there some kind of guide for the custom visibility conditions in bartender? :P |
| 23:43.17 | Amarande | Jerub: no, not the teleport itself being bugged, there was a bug with the quest to get the Goblin Transponder to *use* the teleport |
| 23:43.28 | Amarande | if you quested Searing Gorge, apparently it marked those quests as completed and you could never ever get them |
| 23:43.45 | Jerub | Amarande: heheheehe, thats so awesome |
| 23:44.03 | Amarande | and seeing as I basically never quested Kalimdor on the hunter, apart from some SM, Ulda, and ZF dungeon quests, and a bit of Winterspring, I'm definitely bugged if it's still in |
| 23:44.06 | Amarande | I guess I'll have to go to Org and check |
| 23:44.14 | Amarande | although I usually do business in Undercity instead when I have to visit a capital |
| 23:44.26 | Amarande | but you get the quest in org sooo ... heh |
| 23:45.25 | Nobgul | olafski: Wow you just asked a ton. I will answer 1 of them: Alot of exp lol |
| 23:47.13 | olafski | gee thanks :P |
| 23:47.59 | olafski | I have 400k xp lined up to get in 5 minutes.. wondering how far that'll get me ;) |
| 23:48.05 | olafski | think I'll do 80-82 on archaeology or something |
| 23:48.54 | Nobgul | imm |
| 23:49.20 | Nobgul | olafski in the beta it was like 2mil exp from 80 to 81 |
| 23:49.27 | olafski | hm so 20%.. not too bad :) |
| 23:49.53 | olafski | I should probably read up on which zones I need to do.. have no clue which new zones there even are |
| 23:51.33 | bluspacecow | im just going to wing it |
| 23:51.36 | bluspacecow | more fun that way |
| 23:51.50 | olafski | .. to you :P |
| 23:51.58 | olafski | I'd like to at least know where to go when I hit 82 :P |
| 23:52.27 | olafski | since I won't be starting at the "starting" area |
| 23:52.27 | Amarande | so I wonder which class will be last to hit 85 |
| 23:52.31 | Amarande | I'm going to guess mages. |
| 23:52.31 | bluspacecow | well |
| 23:52.34 | bluspacecow | i know if i had a plan |
| 23:52.38 | bluspacecow | i would still get lost |
| 23:52.42 | bluspacecow | so meh why bother :D |
| 23:52.46 | olafski | :) |
| 23:52.48 | Amarande | mostly because mages die left right and center, and die even more often since 4.0 |
| 23:52.49 | olafski | I don't plan a lot |
| 23:52.57 | olafski | just took a day off, will buy some energy drink etc |
| 23:53.02 | olafski | but I need to know where to go :P |
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| 23:53.46 | olafski | oh and I planned by emptying my bags and getting some quests ready to turn in :P |
| 23:54.17 | olafski | I have a beta account but haven't been to beta yet.. not gonna bother to do the quests to know them beforehand |
| 23:54.42 | kd3 | what's the fun in that? |
| 23:54.57 | olafski | fun? |
| 23:54.59 | kd3 | ...says the guy who's leveled to 85 from 80 three? four? times now |
| 23:55.12 | olafski | as if questing on the first day is fun |
| 23:55.21 | olafski | I remember that from wotlk :P |
| 23:55.21 | kd3 | sure it is. I know how to beat the rush |
| 23:55.48 | olafski | yer I beat the rush with wotlk too.. took an hour and a half or so but then it was pretty desolate |
| 23:55.56 | olafski | the first 1.5 hour was annoying though |
| 23:56.05 | olafski | got so many whispers about how I stole people's mobs |
| 23:57.03 | olafski | hence why I'm gonna skip the starter zone this time :) anywho, bedtime :] |
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