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| 00:05.22 | p3lim | the debug addon for firefox, its name is bugzilla right? |
| 00:05.39 | Stanzilla | more like firebug |
| 00:06.33 | p3lim | thanks :3 |
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| 00:08.00 | Maldivia | bugzilla is the bug tracking system :P |
| 00:09.05 | Cide | hi |
| 00:09.53 | Maldivia | morning |
| 00:15.02 | MoonWitch | to gitusers : Am I right in understanding I can commit multiples stages, without pushing them one by one, but doing one push for several commits? (or will that just screw me over?) |
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| 00:25.05 | MoonWitch | oh wow ... I just peaked at 17Mbps download from Rapidshare lol |
| 00:25.10 | MoonWitch | that was a nice surprise |
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| 00:28.33 | haste | MoonWitch: you can push multiple commits |
| 00:28.52 | haste | you're basically pushing changes made between your local branch, and the branch you are pushing towards |
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| 00:38.41 | Kraps | hayo |
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| 00:41.07 | Kraps | whater you guys doing? |
| 00:42.15 | kd3|netbook | watching the sc2 finals feed? |
| 00:42.18 | Kraps | should i watch this or go to on demand stuff? |
| 00:42.27 | Cide | it's awesome |
| 00:42.32 | Cide | the xel'naga caverns match was great |
| 00:42.42 | Kraps | i know it's awesome |
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| 00:44.48 | Kraps | lol |
| 00:45.03 | Jamash | yay I have my mouse again |
| 00:45.19 | Kraps | whos casting? |
| 00:46.18 | Kraps | day9... |
| 00:46.48 | Cide | and tasteless and artosis |
| 00:46.50 | Ackis | not being at blizzcon is really fucking depressing |
| 00:47.01 | Thunder_Child | why? |
| 00:47.06 | Cide | at least you weren't in position to forget your press pass |
| 00:47.33 | Kraps | or miss your plane |
| 00:48.03 | Thunder_Child | or leave on friday because you were bored |
| 00:48.50 | Kraps | lol |
| 00:49.00 | Cide | or get thrown out because of geekiness overload |
| 00:49.05 | Thunder_Child | ...wtf were you Kraps |
| 00:49.20 | Kraps | mmm? |
| 00:49.26 | Thunder_Child | i was wonder if you got Numen |
| 00:49.47 | Kraps | i dont get it |
| 00:49.55 | Thunder_Child | wondering* |
| 00:50.01 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: http://store.steampowered.com/app/60800/ |
| 00:50.32 | Thunder_Child | also Kraps http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-us/GAMES/Pages/grandtheftautosa.aspx |
| 00:51.02 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: is numen good? |
| 00:51.20 | Kraps | lol $3.75 |
| 00:51.21 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: not sure yet. only played it for ~10 min or so |
| 00:51.31 | Ackis | worth $2? |
| 00:51.35 | KarlKFI|mobile | Sup peeps |
| 00:51.50 | KarlKFI|mobile | Hello from blizzcon! |
| 00:51.55 | Ackis | howdy KarlKFI|mobile |
| 00:51.56 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: i would say yes |
| 00:52.04 | Thunder_Child | it's a bit interesting at least |
| 00:52.06 | Ackis | oh snap 3 KarlKF's on irc! HIDE |
| 00:52.19 | KarlKFI|mobile | These SC2 finals are insane |
| 00:52.20 | MoonWitch | haste : thanks :) (sorry for the later reply I was getting me some food) |
| 00:52.31 | Thunder_Child | and the fact that you are a 12 year old girl and told to go kill some wolves right in the begning is amusing |
| 00:52.35 | Ackis | can someone find Kaelten at blizzcon and give him a hug from me? |
| 00:52.49 | Kraps | the guy with the cold is tasteless? |
| 00:52.57 | KarlKFI|mobile | Yes |
| 00:52.58 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: he is too busy whoring out Curse |
| 00:53.21 | Thunder_Child | but the curse red hots are rather tasty |
| 00:53.34 | Ackis | nothing wrong with whoring out Curse |
| 00:53.39 | KarlKFI|mobile | Curse's Free booze party was fun last night |
| 00:53.41 | MoonWitch | And give Kaelten a kiss from me. And tell Cairenn and Seerah I said hello... (also hug them) |
| 00:53.42 | Ackis | or WoWI or etc |
| 00:53.56 | haste | MoonWitch: quick replies - I don't expect them :P |
| 00:53.59 | Ackis | free booze KarlKFI|work? :( |
| 00:54.06 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI|mobile: did it break the 7K limit? |
| 00:54.28 | Ackis | s/KarlKFI|work/KarlKFI|mobile/ |
| 00:54.28 | KarlKFI|mobile | No idea. The ran out of margaritas |
| 00:54.41 | MoonWitch | haste - git is sill a bit confusing at times, but it's starting to dawn on me. |
| 00:55.02 | Thunder_Child | hmm..the unofficial word wa sthey were going to try to break it |
| 00:55.05 | MoonWitch | Ackis : wish me luck, my first actual sandwich (which is a type of bread here) |
| 00:55.24 | Thunder_Child | and i also thought i saw some random lady passing out the vip invites to people in line friday morning |
| 00:55.31 | Ackis | good luck MoonWitch :D |
| 00:55.52 | Kraps | lolol protoss is op zomg |
| 00:56.01 | KarlKFI|mobile | They rented a bar/restaurant patio and had an open bar |
| 00:56.03 | Cide | nah |
| 00:56.13 | Cide | but terran's getting outplayed by the same strategy every time |
| 00:56.15 | Cide | fail |
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| 00:56.33 | KarlKFI|mobile | The toss player is better IMO |
| 00:56.45 | KarlKFI|mobile | But it's rly close |
| 00:56.46 | Cide | you watching it live? |
| 00:56.52 | KarlKFI|mobile | Ya |
| 00:56.54 | Cide | bastard |
| 00:57.08 | MoonWitch | lol Cide -- let's kick him :P |
| 00:57.16 | MoonWitch | oh you have voice but no ops :( |
| 00:57.22 | Cide | hey |
| 00:57.25 | Cide | voice is important too. |
| 00:57.29 | MoonWitch | I have neither |
| 00:57.30 | Ackis | not really |
| 00:57.31 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 00:57.36 | Cide | VOICE IS SUPERIMPORTANT |
| 00:57.46 | KarlKFI|mobile | Bye bye scvs |
| 00:57.46 | MoonWitch | I still have to bribe Cairenn for voice ;) |
| 00:57.48 | KarlKFI|mobile | Gg |
| 00:58.06 | KarlKFI|mobile | 4 in a row |
| 00:58.12 | Cide | yep |
| 00:58.36 | MoonWitch | so far so good Ackis :) |
| 00:58.41 | Cide | 250apm average is crazy |
| 00:59.15 | KarlKFI|mobile | 2nd place still $10k |
| 00:59.23 | MoonWitch | damn nice prize money |
| 00:59.39 | Cide | he loves china too |
| 00:59.40 | KarlKFI|mobile | But fuck I'm not gonna play 12hrs a day |
| 00:59.55 | MoonWitch | I've considered it, but I am too old to become a pro-player |
| 00:59.56 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 01:00.11 | Kraps | lol the guy is like "fucking americans, l2play" |
| 01:00.12 | Cide | whita-ra is 30-35 I think |
| 01:00.13 | MoonWitch | oh and I also suck at it :P |
| 01:00.23 | KarlKFI|mobile | Lol fail. No translator |
| 01:00.25 | Cide | white-ra too |
| 01:00.34 | Jamash | gogo protoss |
| 01:01.38 | Cide | this is so awkward |
| 01:01.45 | KarlKFI|mobile | Wow... This cast is fail |
| 01:01.51 | MoonWitch | mini sandwiches, half down ... |
| 01:02.24 | Cide | haha |
| 01:02.27 | Cide | and the live stream switched |
| 01:02.29 | Cide | good call |
| 01:02.39 | KarlKFI|mobile | No translator and the mics working on the recording but not getting echo'd live |
| 01:02.49 | Cide | yeah |
| 01:02.51 | Cide | we heard them fine |
| 01:02.57 | Cide | on the stream |
| 01:03.04 | Kraps | kat's looking sexy |
| 01:03.35 | KarlKFI|mobile | So much for live stream |
| 01:03.50 | Kraps | hmm? |
| 01:04.21 | MoonWitch | alright -- sandwich down -- pain sets in .. yeah I'm screwed |
| 01:05.15 | KarlKFI|mobile | That was producer fail on the translator and then tech fail on top |
| 01:05.30 | Cide | and awkward fail on tasteless' part |
| 01:05.30 | MoonWitch | (in case people wonder why I share this, it's for those in the room who asked me for info on all of this) |
| 01:06.06 | Cide | (np!) |
| 01:06.15 | Kraps | chris metzen on the main screen |
| 01:06.19 | Cide | now |
| 01:06.20 | Cide | ? |
| 01:06.21 | KarlKFI|mobile | He was awkward because he couldn't hear himself and apparently they had no earpieces... |
| 01:06.34 | Cide | chris metzen is awesome |
| 01:06.44 | Cide | true |
| 01:06.45 | Kraps | Cide: talking to a dtv host |
| 01:06.50 | Cide | yeah, watching it now |
| 01:07.24 | Cide | with frostmourne in the bg |
| 01:07.27 | Cide | hot |
| 01:07.28 | KarlKFI|mobile | All we got here is a parental advisory |
| 01:07.28 | bleeter | i still think twilight cultists should glitter a bit more when they're dead |
| 01:07.54 | Kraps | KarlKFI|mobile: at the ceremony? |
| 01:08.12 | Cide | you need * advisory for tenacious d |
| 01:08.27 | kd3|netbook | "not really appropriate for any age group" |
| 01:08.33 | kd3|netbook | didn't mike say that at the opening ceremony? |
| 01:08.34 | Kraps | ^ |
| 01:08.35 | Cide | most* :P |
| 01:08.37 | KarlKFI|mobile | Ya. They're setting up the stage for the concert |
| 01:08.44 | bleeter | kd3|netbook++ |
| 01:09.12 | Kraps | wonder if that throne is cold |
| 01:09.15 | bleeter | metzen's still a putz for not putting Dr Who in his show n tell |
| 01:09.20 | MoonWitch | ya know for being the "bad guys" I think the blonde cylon is friggin hot |
| 01:09.25 | Cide | actually he said "most" which implies there's at least one age group for which it is appropriate |
| 01:09.38 | Cide | also known as sarah kerrigan MoonWitch! |
| 01:09.43 | Kraps | MoonWitch: that makes her even more evil :p |
| 01:09.47 | Cide | (she voiced the queen of blades in sc2) |
| 01:09.49 | KarlKFI|mobile | Also in epic quotes of blizzcon: "There will be no doughnuts in D3" |
| 01:09.52 | bleeter | A WITCH! ELECT HER! |
| 01:10.10 | MoonWitch | hey.. I am a witch -- don't burn us at the stakes just yet |
| 01:10.11 | MoonWitch | :P |
| 01:10.30 | MoonWitch | and Cide, did she by any chance play in a porn movie or something? |
| 01:10.36 | KarlKFI|mobile | I hope an artist sneaks in a doughnut level |
| 01:10.36 | MoonWitch | because that is a movie to have |
| 01:10.36 | Cide | I wish |
| 01:10.42 | Cide | but I don't think so |
| 01:10.45 | Kraps | MoonWitch: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BeautyIsBad |
| 01:10.56 | Cide | I think she's been in playboy or something though |
| 01:11.13 | Cide | semi-nudity at least! |
| 01:11.42 | KarlKFI|mobile | Grab that and bubble it |
| 01:12.15 | bleeter | I think the buffering is worse than last year tbh |
| 01:12.19 | bleeter | on the live stream |
| 01:12.25 | Cide | works fine for me |
| 01:12.33 | MoonWitch | ooh she's from ALberta .. |
| 01:12.43 | MoonWitch | I like Canada a LOT more right now |
| 01:12.51 | KarlKFI|mobile | The buffering live is a bitch |
| 01:12.54 | Kraps | bleeter: better now than yesterday |
| 01:13.14 | KarlKFI|mobile | 30min buffering between sessions |
| 01:13.37 | bleeter | I spent 30 mins last night trying to find the start of the wow comp vods lol |
| 01:13.49 | MoonWitch | In the first season, Helfer had to dye her hair platinum blonde every ten days, which made her hair fall in "clumps", after having shaved the rest of the hair, she had to wear a wig for the rest of the three seasons. |
| 01:13.50 | MoonWitch | damn |
| 01:14.32 | bleeter | titles ... scan... coming up.. scan... soon... scan... oh look halfway into game 2. back... urgh. this vod ui is not fun, rayv/directv. |
| 01:14.41 | KarlKFI|mobile | The D3 single player demo line wins longest ass line of the con |
| 01:14.48 | bleeter | ~emulatebleeter |
| 01:14.55 | bleeter | KarlKFI|mobile: pics? :P |
| 01:15.17 | Kraps | ~emulate bleeter |
| 01:15.17 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 01:15.26 | Ackis | MoonWitch: who's from alberta? |
| 01:15.43 | KarlKFI|mobile | Don't have one ATM |
| 01:15.45 | MoonWitch | Tricia Helfer -- Number 6 in Battlestar Galactica :) |
| 01:15.54 | MoonWitch | a rilf :) |
| 01:15.56 | Ackis | ah |
| 01:15.59 | Ackis | I'm from Alberta |
| 01:16.00 | Ackis | :P |
| 01:16.11 | MoonWitch | robot -- and ilf is guessable I assume? |
| 01:16.35 | Kraps | fartist ftw |
| 01:18.07 | MoonWitch | damn wikipedia is a spoiler about BSG :( |
| 01:19.07 | KarlKFI|mobile | What did you expect? |
| 01:19.40 | bleeter | sam's keyboard looks pretty epic, covered in stuffs |
| 01:19.56 | MoonWitch | define "stuffs" |
| 01:19.57 | Kraps | upside down phone ftl |
| 01:20.02 | Cide | ftw |
| 01:20.15 | bleeter | MoonWitch: looks like old beat up 101 from the 80's |
| 01:20.23 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 01:20.32 | bleeter | covered in pen marks n scratches n .. stuffs |
| 01:20.40 | bleeter | an old faithful |
| 01:20.53 | Kraps | did they cut off the stream during the contests like last year? |
| 01:21.11 | bleeter | Kraps: yeah during the SC2 last night |
| 01:21.29 | Kraps | wtf |
| 01:21.33 | bleeter | Kraps: though, to their credit, I did find the 'missing' part later, although by then it was missing the part that originally wasn't missing |
| 01:24.21 | Kraps | engine block, is that what they're calling it now? |
| 01:25.44 | bleeter | nice, portuguese on the raynor model. |
| 01:25.52 | Ackis | anyone wnat to add me to real ID in wow/SC2? |
| 01:26.35 | bleeter | Ackis: no :P |
| 01:26.52 | Kraps | really Ackis |
| 01:27.37 | Ackis | what Kraps? |
| 01:27.43 | Kraps | wait L80ETC isnt there!!!! |
| 01:27.48 | Kraps | noooooooo |
| 01:27.57 | Cide | thank god I'm not there then! |
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| 01:28.51 | Cide | i can has world editor? |
| 01:29.01 | kd3|netbook | indeed |
| 01:29.16 | bleeter | Kraps: was some mention of special guest on drums |
| 01:32.32 | Kraps | man geoff is so awkward |
| 01:33.03 | Cide | I don't think so |
| 01:34.17 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5671564/undead-dancer-breaks-a-leg-at-blizzcon-dance-contest !!!!! |
| 01:35.54 | Cide | break a leg |
| 01:37.14 | Cide | keep going! |
| 01:37.27 | Kraps | shift blame ftw |
| 01:37.46 | p3lim | how the hell did he manage to break his leg doing that? |
| 01:37.59 | bleeter | leaping into the air |
| 01:38.11 | bleeter | well, more precisely, the falling back to the ground bit after the leap into the air |
| 01:38.30 | bleeter | some say it was the slow song that was playing, stuffed his leaping tempo up |
| 01:38.42 | p3lim | i was kinda hoping for a huge fall from the stage or something :/ |
| 01:38.46 | Mirrormn | if you look at the video, you can see he landed on the side of his foot |
| 01:39.23 | Mirrormn | and once that happened, it looked like something in his knee became dislocated |
| 01:39.35 | Cide | awkward night elf druid ready for blizzon 2010 is awkward |
| 01:39.35 | Mirrormn | he didn't actually break his leg |
| 01:39.48 | bleeter | just fucked it up |
| 01:40.04 | p3lim | probably just dislocated it |
| 01:40.11 | Kraps | why did it take 10 minutes to get medics? |
| 01:40.13 | bleeter | marriage proposal was <3 |
| 01:40.15 | Mirrormn | I actually almost broke my ankle earlier this year just stepping off a particularly high curb |
| 01:40.38 | Cide | a 6 month costume |
| 01:40.43 | Cide | with a year of planning |
| 01:40.44 | Cide | failll |
| 01:41.12 | p3lim | never broken a bone in my body |
| 01:41.19 | p3lim | cut off my thumb once though |
| 01:41.28 | Cide | did it fall off? |
| 01:41.33 | bleeter | p3lim: only once? |
| 01:41.35 | p3lim | hanging by the skin |
| 01:41.38 | Cide | sweet |
| 01:41.40 | haste | is at 7 fractures now. |
| 01:41.40 | Cide | what did you do? |
| 01:41.43 | bleeter | tasty |
| 01:41.43 | p3lim | work |
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| 01:41.49 | Cide | that's quite descriptive |
| 01:41.49 | Kraps | that jaina is pretty awesome |
| 01:41.58 | MoonWitch | 7 fractures? |
| 01:41.58 | p3lim | sharp knife was sharp |
| 01:42.07 | bleeter | fractures haste with a damp Fisker |
| 01:42.08 | Cide | you did it with a knife? |
| 01:42.11 | haste | or rounds with fractures to be exact |
| 01:42.11 | Cide | that's extra impressive |
| 01:42.19 | Cide | with an automatic saw I could get it |
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| 01:42.23 | Cide | but with a knife |
| 01:42.24 | Cide | well done |
| 01:42.34 | p3lim | sharp knife was sharp |
| 01:42.34 | Cide | nice secret cow level impression |
| 01:42.34 | MoonWitch | are we counting 'shit gone wrong in life' moments? |
| 01:42.43 | haste | no, then I would be higher :P |
| 01:42.58 | haste | not counting getting the jaw out of lock and such now! |
| 01:43.01 | Kraps | another nerf pally joke, yay gc |
| 01:43.02 | p3lim | haste: hows your arm/hand/finger btw? |
| 01:43.02 | haste | just actual fractures |
| 01:43.16 | haste | pretty much the same |
| 01:43.42 | MoonWitch | worst I've managed was 4 flatlines in a row |
| 01:43.49 | KarlKFI|mobile | Moo |
| 01:43.55 | kd3|netbook | moo |
| 01:43.58 | Kraps | i have all you guys beat in fractures/breaks so dont even start |
| 01:44.01 | haste | Moo moo mooooo moo mooo |
| 01:44.03 | bleeter | moo |
| 01:44.07 | Cide | were you participating in the secret cow level imitation KarlKFI|mobile? |
| 01:44.09 | Cide | if not, why not? |
| 01:44.18 | KarlKFI|mobile | Moo |
| 01:44.36 | p3lim | been 0.7mm away from puncturing my eye xD |
| 01:44.41 | MoonWitch | damn |
| 01:44.43 | p3lim | doctor said I was way too lucky |
| 01:44.55 | MoonWitch | yeah I wouldn't try to duplicate the even |
| 01:44.58 | MoonWitch | event* |
| 01:45.36 | haste | I have a scar in my right eyebrow, so yeah, almost done that myself |
| 01:45.48 | p3lim | got to know how it was to live with just one eye for a week though |
| 01:45.57 | MoonWitch | perma bump on my right eyebrow from smashing my face into the sidewalk |
| 01:46.04 | MoonWitch | and how did that go? |
| 01:46.07 | KarlKFI|mobile | Championship rings. Classy |
| 01:46.07 | p3lim | ouch |
| 01:46.08 | bleeter | what's USD$25k worth in real money these days? :P |
| 01:46.25 | p3lim | MoonWitch: the one-eyed week? |
| 01:46.29 | Mirrormn | about 35,000,000 won |
| 01:46.29 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 01:46.29 | haste | bleeter: 25 000 U.S. dollars = 165 787.99 Swedish kronor |
| 01:46.31 | p3lim | was hell |
| 01:46.40 | KarlKFI|mobile | What's real money? Gold coins? |
| 01:46.40 | kd3|netbook | omg |
| 01:46.48 | KarlKFI|mobile | Uh oh. Mmo reveal |
| 01:46.52 | Kraps | WOOOOOOOOO |
| 01:46.58 | Mirrormn | oh, excuse me |
| 01:47.02 | MoonWitch | I really hate karl right now lol |
| 01:47.05 | Kraps | ZOMG |
| 01:47.07 | p3lim | no depth vision at all, kept kicking into table edges |
| 01:47.08 | Cide | fuck you KarlKFI|mobile imo |
| 01:47.11 | Mirrormn | 25000usd = 2.814m won |
| 01:47.12 | KarlKFI|mobile | Lol |
| 01:47.12 | KarlKFI|mobile | Fail |
| 01:47.14 | Cide | oh |
| 01:47.15 | Cide | owned |
| 01:47.16 | Cide | hahaha |
| 01:47.16 | KarlKFI|mobile | LOL |
| 01:47.21 | Kraps | ZOMG GAIN |
| 01:47.32 | bleeter | fkn buffering |
| 01:47.33 | MoonWitch | p3lim: honestly that would hurt ... but luckily it was only a week |
| 01:47.42 | haste | welcome to my world! |
| 01:47.53 | haste | I have only one good eye :) |
| 01:48.12 | MoonWitch | I have one hearing ear, no nerve in the other (mom only finished me 95%) |
| 01:48.18 | p3lim | odd thing was that it didnt affect my vision, still have perfect sight |
| 01:48.25 | MoonWitch | but yeah having no depth would be totally awkward |
| 01:48.35 | MoonWitch | are you then actually allowed to drive? |
| 01:48.49 | p3lim | first day was worst, spent about 50 minutes eating dinner |
| 01:49.04 | haste | I have perfect sight on my left eye, and I can't see my computer screen clearly with my right (and it's getting worse D:) |
| 01:49.05 | p3lim | nah, had to call for friends if I needed to go somewhere |
| 01:49.40 | p3lim | skeiv hornhinne? (no idea what it is in english) |
| 01:50.27 | MoonWitch | lasersurgery on the iris? |
| 01:50.37 | MoonWitch | not iris |
| 01:50.50 | MoonWitch | the lens in front of it to correct vision impairment if possible |
| 01:51.17 | MoonWitch | or did you mean a cornea (yay that was the word) transplant? |
| 01:51.18 | KarlKFI|mobile | Woot D3 beta keys |
| 01:51.36 | bleeter | fkn buffering |
| 01:51.38 | haste | p3lim: no, some sort of lazy eye |
| 01:51.58 | p3lim | ok |
| 01:52.09 | KarlKFI|mobile | I can't tell if he was kidding... |
| 01:52.09 | MoonWitch | that they can't correct i think :( |
| 01:52.10 | p3lim | warped conea :) |
| 01:52.28 | KarlKFI|mobile | Had to be |
| 01:52.49 | p3lim | whos got D3 beta keys? |
| 01:53.05 | KarlKFI|mobile | No one |
| 01:53.15 | KarlKFI|mobile | The COO is being a dick |
| 01:53.48 | Kraps | KarlKFI|mobile: idk |
| 01:53.51 | Cide | I think he was pretty funny |
| 01:54.00 | Kraps | that would be pretty dickish |
| 01:54.13 | KarlKFI|mobile | Terrible jokes and taunting us with reveals and beta keys |
| 01:54.39 | Jamash | what's going on? |
| 01:54.40 | MoonWitch | I dont know why, but I can't stand starbuck |
| 01:54.43 | Jamash | I do not have ze stream |
| 01:54.43 | Kraps | a great 3 days |
| 01:54.48 | MoonWitch | (BSG character) |
| 01:54.52 | Mirrormn | he was doing some trolololololololin |
| 01:55.03 | KarlKFI|mobile | ^^ |
| 01:55.26 | Kraps | MoonWitch: shes hot and awesome |
| 01:55.35 | Jamash | I respect blizzard for being a huge corporate entity that can still troll its customers |
| 01:55.37 | MoonWitch | I can't stand the character |
| 01:55.47 | MoonWitch | nothing to do with the actual sight of her :P |
| 01:56.16 | MoonWitch | oh and the dude of the flight deck .. :) |
| 01:56.19 | p3lim | damn you hulu and your region racism |
| 01:56.40 | MoonWitch | p3lim : I've cursed over that beyond .... |
| 01:56.43 | Kraps | geoff just spoiled something |
| 01:57.12 | MoonWitch | I've gone to the point of setting up a VPN with a mate from the US, I RDC into his server, open Hulu from there :P (I get stills almost but yeah, |
| 01:57.22 | p3lim | on the laptop far up in the mountains and I want to watch some anime :/ |
| 01:57.27 | p3lim | streams that is |
| 01:58.43 | Kraps | dave who? |
| 01:59.40 | p3lim | knew I should have brought my external drive |
| 02:02.11 | haste | watching series on streams is so sadface |
| 02:02.23 | haste | blocky quality and worse sound than usual |
| 02:02.54 | KarlKFI|mobile | Beats not watching them at all |
| 02:03.15 | haste | I'd rather pick not watching them at all |
| 02:03.25 | Cide | stop phoning and start watching tenacious d KarlKFI|mobile |
| 02:03.53 | KarlKFI|mobile | I can multitask |
| 02:04.10 | Cide | everyone else is recording with theirs! |
| 02:04.20 | Jamash | get your anime from bittorrent like god intended |
| 02:04.29 | KarlKFI|mobile | Dino suit lol |
| 02:06.21 | KarlKFI|mobile | Ok I'm off |
| 02:06.30 | bleeter | we know |
| 02:06.37 | bleeter | :P |
| 02:06.49 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (~airtonix@unaffiliated/airtonix) |
| 02:07.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (~Aquavette@74-143-225-148.static.insightbb.com) |
| 02:07.57 | bleeter | least the stream audio mix is better than yesterday :) |
| 02:08.46 | MoonWitch | bleeter, you are watching too, I appreciate you not hollering everything that's happening.. |
| 02:08.55 | p3lim | found a nice site with a quality that wont tear my eyes out |
| 02:09.04 | MoonWitch | oh do share :) |
| 02:12.28 | Kraps | none of these song are rockable :/ |
| 02:12.57 | bleeter | they are, in a spinal tap kinda way |
| 02:13.41 | p3lim | yay, got spotify working through wine :D |
| 02:13.50 | Cide | there's a native linux version |
| 02:13.55 | p3lim | its broke |
| 02:14.00 | Cide | works fine |
| 02:14.04 | kd3|netbook | you need to be properly altered chemically to like them |
| 02:14.08 | p3lim | some issues with tooltips on ubuntu 10.10 |
| 02:14.21 | batrick | Cide: didn't your mailmod have autocompletion for alts? |
| 02:14.28 | batrick | It doesn't seem to anymore : / |
| 02:14.30 | Cide | can't remember |
| 02:14.41 | Cide | maybe it only has it for friends and guild mates |
| 02:14.46 | batrick | I think blizz is the one that has it work for friends |
| 02:14.56 | batrick | yes i dunno |
| 02:15.02 | batrick | i hate friending my own alts : / |
| 02:15.10 | Cide | what about guilding? :P |
| 02:15.22 | Kraps | is that real? |
| 02:15.24 | batrick | my elitist guild won't have my alts |
| 02:15.40 | Thunder_Child | unless they are 80 and stacked? |
| 02:15.58 | Dagmar | Postal may be doing it that way, or it may be autocompleteing based on past recipients |
| 02:16.36 | Cide | I thought postal was just a ct_mailmod ripoff anyway |
| 02:16.52 | Cide | well I know so :) but maybe it has a new feature! |
| 02:17.09 | batrick | hopefully you add it, I'd be thrilled =) |
| 02:17.21 | Cide | can't detect alts |
| 02:17.28 | Cide | but it wouldn't be hard to track past recipients like Dagmar said |
| 02:17.30 | batrick | you can because there are profiles for them? |
| 02:17.38 | Cide | true |
| 02:17.44 | Jamash | 4.0.1 is so buggy |
| 02:17.49 | batrick | also true |
| 02:17.50 | bleeter | no u |
| 02:18.04 | batrick | but past recipients would be pretty sweet too |
| 02:20.57 | Cide | this song is pretty sweet |
| 02:20.58 | MoonWitch | try ExpressMail by tek |
| 02:21.07 | MoonWitch | (if memory serves) |
| 02:21.29 | MoonWitch | *sigh* my isp is pissed at me again |
| 02:21.33 | MoonWitch | for downloading too much |
| 02:21.41 | Cide | try uploading to compensate |
| 02:22.19 | MoonWitch | damn bs ... these episodes are only 700mb |
| 02:22.29 | MoonWitch | my other episodes are 1gb per |
| 02:22.46 | Kraps | 700 is normal |
| 02:22.54 | MoonWitch | for 720p? |
| 02:22.55 | Kraps | afaik |
| 02:22.57 | MoonWitch | BR rips |
| 02:22.58 | Kraps | of |
| 02:23.02 | Kraps | oh* |
| 02:23.14 | MoonWitch | 700 is too little, 1GB is little as it is |
| 02:23.40 | p3lim | wonder if I can get spotify to react to my media keys |
| 02:26.54 | Kraps | Approximately 8,000 people attended the first BlizzCon, held on October 28 and October 29, 2005 |
| 02:29.15 | *** join/#wowuidev brandonjviles (~Programmi@adsl-65-66-152-211.dsl.kscymo.swbell.net) |
| 02:30.13 | brandonjviles | is a player frame considered a button? |
| 02:30.45 | Cide | why don't you go to www.wowprogramming.com and check relevant api methods for all frames |
| 02:31.07 | Kraps | i think id rather watch on demand stuff :/ |
| 02:31.08 | Cide | so that you can get the type of a frame reference during runtime |
| 02:31.10 | haste | or check the framexml |
| 02:31.18 | Mirrormn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:31.23 | Cide | fsdaijisdagfn8isdagjansd |
| 02:31.23 | Cide | sda |
| 02:31.23 | Cide | gsda |
| 02:31.24 | Cide | gsdaignsdaignsdag |
| 02:31.29 | brandonjviles | lol |
| 02:31.29 | Cide | STOP FEEDING PEOPLE THE FUCKING FISH |
| 02:31.37 | MoonWitch | Mirrormn: Cide hates you now |
| 02:31.46 | Mirrormn | hugs Cide |
| 02:31.47 | Cide | I hated him/her already |
| 02:31.52 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 02:31.52 | Mirrormn | it'll be okay Cide |
| 02:31.57 | Cide | no |
| 02:32.03 | Cide | now brandonjviles will ask even more questions |
| 02:32.04 | brandonjviles | thanks mirromn btw |
| 02:32.08 | Cide | you idiot |
| 02:32.10 | brandonjviles | cide |
| 02:32.15 | brandonjviles | i have a question |
| 02:32.19 | Cide | I'm sure you do |
| 02:32.24 | Cide | if I had ops I would kickban you right now |
| 02:32.24 | MoonWitch | hides. |
| 02:32.26 | bleeter | motorhead do a better roadcrew song |
| 02:32.31 | Mirrormn | hugs Cide and brandonjviles at the same time (one with each arm) |
| 02:32.39 | Cide | there's no way |
| 02:32.45 | bleeter | blames cog|away |
| 02:33.42 | Cide | the best part though |
| 02:33.45 | Cide | is that Mirrormn FAILED |
| 02:33.49 | Cide | because that's not the proper name |
| 02:33.54 | Cide | AND NOW YOU STFU AND LET HIM SEARCH |
| 02:34.03 | Mirrormn | of the frame method? lol |
| 02:34.09 | bleeter | no u |
| 02:34.13 | Cide | no, of the pick of destiny |
| 02:34.15 | Cide | what the fuck do you think |
| 02:34.27 | brandonjviles | Button name="PlayerFrame" |
| 02:34.36 | Cide | good boy |
| 02:34.42 | Cide | now what's the widget method? |
| 02:34.44 | brandonjviles | so its a button |
| 02:35.13 | Cide | did you learn anything new so far since you joined the channel? |
| 02:35.14 | Cide | no |
| 02:35.19 | Cide | so your question was entirely due to laziness |
| 02:35.26 | brandonjviles | i already knew that |
| 02:35.37 | Cide | "that" is ambiguous |
| 02:35.44 | brandonjviles | I was just looking for someone to say. your right |
| 02:35.45 | brandonjviles | ok |
| 02:35.46 | brandonjviles | sorry |
| 02:35.47 | bleeter | blames cog|away some moar |
| 02:35.50 | MoonWitch | brandonjviles: I'll give you a pointer : google "wow-ui-source" |
| 02:35.57 | Cide | STOP GIVING POINTERS |
| 02:36.02 | Cide | (references are preferred) |
| 02:36.06 | haste | ~cide |
| 02:36.06 | purl | it has been said that cide is the developer of the CT mods. He is also known for his bad temper |
| 02:36.09 | Cide | (in this context it even makes sense) |
| 02:36.09 | MoonWitch | hey, I'm telling him to google it |
| 02:36.10 | Mirrormn | helping people is stricly forbidden! |
| 02:36.11 | haste | :D |
| 02:36.13 | kd3|netbook | winces |
| 02:36.25 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Cide |
| 02:36.25 | purl | strangles Cide with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 02:36.28 | haste | ~emulate cide |
| 02:36.28 | purl | Please remove this discussion from your consciousness. |
| 02:36.36 | Thunder_Child | mutters about puns |
| 02:36.36 | Cide | that's such a horrible emulation sadly |
| 02:36.45 | bleeter | ~emulate kd3 |
| 02:36.52 | brandonjviles | so i can look at CT mod source and learn lots? |
| 02:36.55 | Thunder_Child | ~kd3 |
| 02:37.01 | Cide | Thunder_Child: it was a double puntendre |
| 02:37.01 | Thunder_Child | interesting.... |
| 02:37.20 | kd3|netbook | chuckles |
| 02:37.23 | Cide | brandonjviles: it's most likely way above your level of knowledge |
| 02:37.27 | Thunder_Child | yes Cide, i got it you whore of babylon |
| 02:37.33 | Cide | but hypothetically yes |
| 02:40.16 | bleeter | lol arthas vs metal |
| 02:41.45 | MoonWitch | Number six looks good ... in barely clad dresses |
| 02:43.44 | MoonWitch | oh and Cide, I like you... |
| 02:43.50 | Cide | you should |
| 02:43.52 | Cide | I'm awesome |
| 02:43.58 | MoonWitch | yeah, you are |
| 02:44.03 | Cide | ^_^ |
| 02:44.50 | Cide | but ultimately a misunderstood seemingly superhuman man, playing a lion being led to a cage |
| 02:45.18 | MoonWitch | so what, you have a short fuse .. does that make you bad? |
| 02:45.27 | Cide | I don't have a short fuse |
| 02:45.30 | Cide | I had a short fuse when I was young |
| 02:45.41 | MoonWitch | and because you're well known, people expect you to know and do everything |
| 02:45.55 | MoonWitch | when you were young? |
| 02:46.01 | MoonWitch | you're implying you're old now ;) |
| 02:46.11 | Cide | a year ago |
| 02:46.29 | Cide | I only speak in relatives |
| 02:46.36 | MoonWitch | ah I see |
| 02:47.05 | Cide | seriously though |
| 02:47.20 | Cide | I'm a very calm person |
| 02:47.35 | Cide | I just express my calmness in a colorful manner. |
| 02:47.56 | MoonWitch | I actually laughed my butt off during the entire thing |
| 02:48.02 | MoonWitch | so it was highly amusing as well |
| 02:48.13 | Cide | that's good! |
| 02:48.21 | haste | puts on some acid. |
| 02:48.32 | MoonWitch | doesn't that sting? |
| 02:48.40 | Mirrormn | I'm just doubtful that you can force someone to be self-reliant |
| 02:48.53 | Cide | so you take them under the wing like the poor little bitch you are |
| 02:49.00 | MoonWitch | well I've come in here with dumbass questions myself as well |
| 02:49.01 | haste | lies |
| 02:49.03 | kd3|netbook | they become self-reliant or die trying |
| 02:49.07 | kd3|netbook | "trying" |
| 02:49.11 | Cide | at least when I'm the boss |
| 02:49.23 | Mirrormn | no, they either give up or find someone else who will help them, usually |
| 02:49.29 | Cide | I help them |
| 02:49.33 | Cide | I just help them help themselves |
| 02:49.38 | Cide | or |
| 02:49.45 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv-V6umaQgw this type of acid :3 |
| 02:49.48 | brandonjviles | im learing Cide, your code is awesome |
| 02:49.49 | Cide | if they have taken the necessary steps to try and figure it out themselves |
| 02:49.52 | brandonjviles | learning* |
| 02:50.06 | Cide | I can also help in the regular sense |
| 02:50.10 | Cide | brandonjviles: well yes, I wrote it. |
| 02:50.21 | Cide | here's some even more awesome code which you should read |
| 02:50.24 | Cide | I wrote it too you can say |
| 02:50.27 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 02:50.31 | MoonWitch | brandonjviles: if you like learning from code, github is a place to be, as is wowi svn and wowace git/mercurial/ etc |
| 02:50.45 | brandonjviles | thanks moon |
| 02:50.54 | MoonWitch | hg is the third isn't it on wowace? |
| 02:50.55 | brandonjviles | i have pil downloaded |
| 02:51.04 | brandonjviles | waiting for money to buy 2nd edition |
| 02:51.13 | brandonjviles | and to get wow programming |
| 02:51.15 | Cide | well downloading doesn't do |
| 02:51.19 | Cide | you have to read it you know |
| 02:51.23 | Mirrormn | what is the difference in the 2nd edition, btw? |
| 02:51.25 | Cide | it's not material for your hard drive to read |
| 02:51.27 | haste | MoonWitch: hg == mercurial |
| 02:51.31 | brandonjviles | updated to lua 5.1 |
| 02:51.40 | Mirrormn | well yes, obviously |
| 02:51.42 | MoonWitch | haste, what the heck is the third option then? |
| 02:51.47 | haste | svn :p ? |
| 02:51.54 | MoonWitch | I could have sworn there were three t.. |
| 02:51.55 | Cide | dropbox |
| 02:51.58 | MoonWitch | I forgot svn OMG |
| 02:52.00 | Mirrormn | but what is included in 5.1? |
| 02:52.06 | haste | no, you mentioned it |
| 02:52.08 | haste | just didn't count it |
| 02:52.10 | MoonWitch | oh |
| 02:52.14 | MoonWitch | oh... |
| 02:52.18 | MoonWitch | I need nicotine that's it |
| 02:52.26 | brandonjviles | not sure, just supposed to be more current |
| 02:52.42 | haste | the difference between 5.0 and 5.1 isn't too large |
| 02:52.45 | MoonWitch | I just need to learn to program :P that's all |
| 02:53.37 | Humbedooh | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#7.1 |
| 02:53.51 | brandonjviles | brings substantial new material, including numerous new examples, a detailed explanation of the new module system, and two new chapters centered on multiple states and garbage collection. |
| 02:53.55 | Kraps | is that metzen? |
| 02:54.03 | Cide | don't think so |
| 02:54.10 | Cide | doesn't sound like him and doesn't look like him |
| 02:54.12 | kd3|netbook | not the right build |
| 02:54.53 | haste | brandonjviles: you can't use the module system in WoW's lua, the C API chapter won't help you and the GC you probably don't want to touch :) |
| 02:55.04 | brandonjviles | see |
| 02:55.35 | Mirrormn | and "numerous examples" are usually best obtained by shamelessly reading other people's addon source |
| 02:55.36 | brandonjviles | i have no clue what it offers as far a wow is concerned, but I know it offers something.. |
| 02:55.43 | haste | take a look at the lik Humbedooh pasted, it contains the changes from 5.0 -> 5.1 |
| 02:55.59 | haste | itoffers you a very good guide to lua |
| 02:56.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Corrodias2 (no@96-40-253-184.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 02:56.05 | haste | which is a great starting point |
| 02:56.34 | haste | you still have to learn WoWs API on top of that |
| 02:56.39 | brandonjviles | lua isnt what Im gonna struggle with |
| 02:56.43 | brandonjviles | its the wow api |
| 02:56.54 | kd3|netbook | http://www.wowpedia.org/API |
| 02:57.01 | Cide | www.wowprogramming.com |
| 02:57.04 | haste | ~bible |
| 02:57.05 | purl | from memory, bible is http://wowprogramming.com |
| 02:57.10 | brandonjviles | yeah, waiting for the money |
| 02:57.22 | Cide | one is black, one is white; choose whichever you deem is worth the fight |
| 02:57.36 | Cide | one is black, one is white; choose whichever you feel is right |
| 02:57.43 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 02:57.49 | Cide | one is black, one is white; choose whichever is to the right |
| 02:58.38 | Cide | one is black, one is white; choose my suggestion you piece of shite? |
| 02:58.48 | kd3|netbook | lol |
| 02:58.53 | Cide | ok out of rhymes |
| 02:58.55 | Kraps | Cide... |
| 02:59.26 | Mirrormn | one is black, one is white; this is might go on all night |
| 02:59.27 | Cide | Please, listen to me... |
| 02:59.38 | Cide | The archbishop Lazarus, he led us down there to find the lost prince. |
| 02:59.51 | Cide | The bastard led us into a trap. Now everyone is dead, killed by a demon he called "The Butcher". |
| 02:59.54 | Cide | Avenge us! |
| 03:00.03 | Cide | Find this butcher and slay him, so that our souls may finally rest. |
| 03:00.09 | Cide | ^ verbatim, I think. |
| 03:00.19 | Humbedooh | Scholomance I think |
| 03:00.22 | Kraps | what is that? |
| 03:00.26 | Cide | fail I decide |
| 03:00.39 | Cide | you should know if it if you know your blizzard games |
| 03:00.46 | Cide | hell |
| 03:00.53 | Cide | there's a huge spoiler in the text itself |
| 03:01.01 | Humbedooh | oh that game |
| 03:01.03 | Cide | two |
| 03:01.05 | Kraps | ??? |
| 03:01.07 | Mirrormn | it's diablo 1 |
| 03:01.11 | Humbedooh | I thought we were talking wow :\ |
| 03:01.12 | Cide | ding ding |
| 03:01.16 | Mirrormn | and it was surprisingly accurate |
| 03:01.18 | Humbedooh | ye diablo stuff |
| 03:01.22 | Cide | surprisingly? |
| 03:01.24 | Kraps | idk that one |
| 03:01.24 | Cide | it's verbatim |
| 03:01.33 | Cide | I remember it to this day |
| 03:01.50 | Mirrormn | yar, you only messed up the punctuation slightly |
| 03:01.54 | Cide | well yeah |
| 03:02.01 | Cide | I'm swedish |
| 03:02.02 | Cide | I get to do that |
| 03:02.08 | haste | lies |
| 03:02.09 | Cide | should be a semicolon after Lazarus probably |
| 03:02.14 | Cide | second line |
| 03:02.25 | Mirrormn | actually, that part was correct ^_^ |
| 03:02.27 | Cide | and you can remove the comma after "slay him" |
| 03:02.36 | Cide | where did it differ? |
| 03:02.37 | Mirrormn | nope, that was right too XD |
| 03:02.46 | Mirrormn | "Please, listen to me. The Archbishop Lazarus, he lead us down here to find the lost prince. The bastard lead us into a trap! Now everyone is dead... Killed by a Demon he called the Butcher. Avenge us! Find this Butcher and slay him, so that our souls may finally rest..." |
| 03:03.08 | Mirrormn | mostly elipses |
| 03:03.12 | Cide | meh |
| 03:03.15 | Cide | is that from in-game? |
| 03:03.23 | Mirrormn | it's from diablo.wikia.com |
| 03:03.46 | Cide | because the past tense of lead is led, not lead |
| 03:04.01 | Cide | so I trust my own version more. |
| 03:04.23 | Cide | and the guy is outside the sanctuary so "down here" doesn't make sense either |
| 03:04.39 | Cide | well I guess it does if he's pointing at the stairs or something but he isn't |
| 03:04.42 | Cide | he's busy dying |
| 03:04.53 | Mirrormn | well, I never even played diablo 1, so, I definitely won't challenge you |
| 03:04.59 | Kraps | the wow arena tourney is still on |
| 03:05.02 | Cide | THAT'S RIGHT |
| 03:06.03 | Cide | only cute chick on the directv from the attendees I've seen so far |
| 03:06.05 | Cide | right there |
| 03:06.09 | Cide | a minute ago |
| 03:06.23 | Mirrormn | hehe |
| 03:06.30 | Kraps | Cide: it went together with the convo |
| 03:06.38 | Mirrormn | are we not counting dance/costume contest contestants? |
| 03:06.41 | Kraps | good camera direction |
| 03:06.47 | Cide | Kraps: still |
| 03:06.53 | Cide | she was pretty cute |
| 03:07.06 | Cide | Mirrormn: haven't seen those |
| 03:07.14 | Kraps | i'm not disagreeing |
| 03:07.28 | Cide | oh and the chick on the big screen |
| 03:07.33 | Cide | oh wait that's wow |
| 03:07.51 | airtonix | Cide, "down here" could refer to : the place that was not "there". as in home, as in the safe place, as in "down here" is death. |
| 03:08.07 | Mirrormn | I was rather smitten by the girl who dressed up as a SC2 ghost |
| 03:08.13 | Mirrormn | for the costume contest |
| 03:08.26 | Cide | airtonix: I enjoy your detailed definition but hold that I'm still right |
| 03:08.37 | Cide | of course |
| 03:08.43 | airtonix | yes |
| 03:08.43 | Cide | I do that regardless of whether or not I am right |
| 03:09.01 | Cide | but I always am right so I guess that point was doubly useless |
| 03:09.30 | airtonix | but you know who you see in movies when a soldier dies on the battle field they have regrets about dying there and not at home? |
| 03:09.44 | airtonix | refering to the battlefield as hell |
| 03:09.54 | Cide | and? |
| 03:09.57 | airtonix | down here |
| 03:10.08 | Cide | the guy is outside the battlefield to follow your analogy |
| 03:10.14 | Cide | he's outside of the sanctuary in which it all took place |
| 03:10.31 | airtonix | just outside the gate or at home |
| 03:10.38 | Cide | outside the gate |
| 03:11.04 | Cide | technically both I guess since the town is like 30 seconds away by foot! |
| 03:12.32 | airtonix | i dont think i would bother with being geographically correct if i was dying |
| 03:12.58 | Cide | if you were dying outside of the hellhole you wouldn't say "down here" though would you |
| 03:13.15 | airtonix | i would because im not being geographically correct |
| 03:13.28 | airtonix | i could be up on a sub orbital platform and still say that |
| 03:13.32 | Cide | "down here" seems a lot more far-fetched |
| 03:13.39 | airtonix | because down here is hell. |
| 03:13.40 | Cide | would you actually say that personally? |
| 03:13.50 | Cide | but you escaped |
| 03:13.51 | airtonix | dragged down |
| 03:13.59 | airtonix | down here |
| 03:14.07 | airtonix | to the place i did not want to die |
| 03:14.18 | Cide | but you're not there |
| 03:14.24 | Cide | the butcher was 2 stairs down |
| 03:14.27 | airtonix | i know im here |
| 03:14.27 | Cide | sometimes 1, sometimes 3 |
| 03:14.38 | Cide | but here is different from there |
| 03:14.44 | Cide | they weren't led to here |
| 03:14.47 | Cide | they were led to there |
| 03:14.50 | airtonix | its a general reference to the place that is not desirable |
| 03:14.56 | brandonjviles | really? i mean here is really there with a t |
| 03:14.59 | Cide | but if you're giving directions for a quest |
| 03:15.09 | Cide | you wouldn't give bad directions would you |
| 03:15.14 | Cide | I mean |
| 03:15.21 | airtonix | maybe if i was dying |
| 03:15.25 | Cide | if you want to be avenged you should at least specify where said avenge can be found |
| 03:15.33 | Cide | you can expect such a misstep to occur, sure |
| 03:15.55 | Cide | but this is a game and we can also assume that he's in full possession of his mind since he doesn't stumble through his speech at all |
| 03:16.00 | Cide | despite dying a second after finishing |
| 03:16.01 | airtonix | well first you have to work out if they are trying to be accurate or if they are just being nostalgic |
| 03:16.14 | Cide | nostalgic about being almost killed by the butcher |
| 03:16.20 | Kraps | seriously guys |
| 03:16.23 | airtonix | about being dragged down here |
| 03:16.25 | airtonix | :) |
| 03:16.45 | Cide | "n. 1. A bittersweet longing for things, persons, or situations of the past." |
| 03:16.48 | Cide | I totally get that |
| 03:16.50 | airtonix | yes |
| 03:17.00 | Cide | I'd totally want to get butchered again |
| 03:17.09 | airtonix | :( |
| 03:17.20 | Cide | now I shall sleep |
| 03:17.34 | Cide | good concert though |
| 03:17.47 | Mirrormn | I dunno, I think the use of "here" implies that the questgiver does not consider himself to have yet left the site of danger |
| 03:17.55 | bleeter | gnight Cide |
| 03:18.03 | Kraps | now for on-demand |
| 03:19.21 | MoonWitch | need for nicotine > need for computer |
| 03:20.13 | Kraps | the story and lore panel was just Q&A? |
| 03:21.28 | Pneumatus | dungeons and lore for WoW was metzen trolling noobs |
| 03:21.47 | Legorol | dungeons and lore? |
| 03:21.55 | Pneumatus | er, quests and lore |
| 03:21.56 | Legorol | there was "dungeons and raids" and "quests and lore" |
| 03:22.23 | Pneumatus | quests and lore was by far the most entertaining panel though for that very reason |
| 03:22.27 | Legorol | and actually, i thought it was Metzen being pwned... most questions were "I chose this random tiny bit of story/lore/character, and I know everything about it, so can you tell me X?" |
| 03:22.28 | *** join/#wowuidev MoonWitch|Mobile (~Kelly@d54C547BE.access.telenet.be) |
| 03:22.29 | Kraps | it was just Q&A? |
| 03:22.36 | Legorol | and he was answering with "uhm... maybe... some other time" |
| 03:22.40 | Pneumatus | it was, yeh |
| 03:22.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | mmmm nicotine |
| 03:22.51 | Pneumatus | a lot of the questions were stuff that had already been answered in lore |
| 03:22.54 | Pneumatus | and people were just being divs |
| 03:23.07 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so nothing too interesting came up |
| 03:23.17 | Legorol | i thought lot of questsions were useless... clearly the person asking has studied it in great depths, and you can't expect Metzen to know every such tiny detail |
| 03:23.27 | airtonix | is a div |
| 03:23.29 | Legorol | i'd have loved to hear some questions about the creative process, but that didn't happen |
| 03:23.48 | Legorol | MoonWitch: one thing did, Metzen revealed the name of an Old God that's playing part in Cata |
| 03:24.01 | Legorol | and as such confirmed that there is one playing part |
| 03:24.02 | MoonWitch|Mobile | oh |
| 03:24.09 | MoonWitch|Mobile | that is nice |
| 03:24.16 | Legorol | didn't say if we get to pwn him/it/her |
| 03:24.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and if I r honest : I have never read all the lore |
| 03:24.28 | Legorol | but he did say the creative team loves Old Gods |
| 03:24.34 | Xyphoid | is it named something creative like shub wiggarath |
| 03:24.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I started to play wow to prove it wasnt fun :( |
| 03:24.41 | Legorol | i don't remember the name ^^ |
| 03:24.49 | Legorol | lol, did the experiment fail then? |
| 03:24.51 | Pneumatus | he also told us basically that thrall would become the aspect of earth |
| 03:24.52 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I - needless to say - lost the bet |
| 03:24.55 | Legorol | haha |
| 03:25.03 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yeah Its been like 5 yrs or so |
| 03:25.03 | Legorol | ah yah what Pneumatus said |
| 03:25.07 | Legorol | pretty epic |
| 03:25.15 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I think I started in the US right before BC came out |
| 03:25.20 | Legorol | and Thrall will pwn Deathwing |
| 03:25.30 | Legorol | or help us do so i guess |
| 03:25.52 | Legorol | i don't know if you guys watched SC2 panels, but generally they were far superior to the WoW panels |
| 03:26.06 | MoonWitch|Mobile | played stock UI for a week, and then I discovered addons.. and that i could write them myself.... and I was lost |
| 03:26.10 | Legorol | the only two decent WoW panels were classes and art imo |
| 03:26.16 | Pneumatus | unfortunatly i have no interest in SC2 |
| 03:26.26 | Pneumatus | classes was just a Q&Q full of paladins |
| 03:26.28 | Legorol | MoonWitch|Mobile: so you didn't play back when Addons could still do anything, and i mean ANYTHING |
| 03:26.29 | Kraps | Legorol: how so? |
| 03:26.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Legorol: I don know |
| 03:26.42 | Legorol | you could write a full fledged AI and drive it by mashing a single key on your keyboard |
| 03:26.49 | MoonWitch|Mobile | really? |
| 03:26.50 | Legorol | including all casting decisions and movement |
| 03:26.57 | MoonWitch|Mobile | shiiiit |
| 03:27.02 | Legorol | those were fun times ^^ |
| 03:27.14 | Pneumatus | hell, encounters were designed around it |
| 03:27.28 | Legorol | well, they were forced to be designed around it eventually |
| 03:27.35 | Legorol | not initially |
| 03:27.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yah i would have loved to see that |
| 03:27.36 | Pneumatus | look at the debuff spam in MC, based on the fact that everyone had decursive for 1-button mash dispelling |
| 03:27.39 | Kraps | Legorol: why were they superior? |
| 03:27.41 | Legorol | heck, there was a time when you didn't even need hardware events for movement |
| 03:28.10 | Legorol | so you could press one key and have an Addon path your character from one point in the world to any other |
| 03:28.14 | Legorol | may you RIP Autotravel |
| 03:28.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hey autorun |
| 03:28.39 | Pneumatus | and addon-clicking flightmasters to chain flightpaths |
| 03:28.46 | Legorol | haha that too |
| 03:28.52 | MoonWitch|Mobile | autorun still rocks .... |
| 03:28.55 | Legorol | oh wait no that wasn't possible, was it? |
| 03:28.58 | MoonWitch|Mobile | until youÅe in hellfire lol |
| 03:29.06 | MoonWitch|Mobile | (yes, Ive ran off hellfire a few times |
| 03:29.30 | Pneumatus | im sure i had something that helped with the single-zone flightpaths back in the day |
| 03:29.42 | Pneumatus | although 5 years ago, my memory is a bit fuzzy :) |
| 03:29.47 | Legorol | mine too :) |
| 03:29.59 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ya think blizz anticipated wow would become what it is? |
| 03:30.11 | Legorol | don't think so |
| 03:30.19 | MoonWitch|Mobile | also why were the pallies QQing? |
| 03:30.30 | Pneumatus | because they always QQ |
| 03:30.35 | PProvost | So has Blizz made any comments about the change that is preventing buff mods from being click-removable without insane workarounds? |
| 03:30.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | <used to play a pally (healadin) |
| 03:30.46 | Pneumatus | there was no UI panel this year |
| 03:30.53 | Legorol | case in point: within one week of releasing WoW in the US, they had to fire up and put into service the *entire* pool of realms they had standing by that they were planning to release over the first year |
| 03:30.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | now THAT I wanna know .. it's been pissing me off |
| 03:30.56 | Pneumatus | so we didn't get any proper tech addon stuff :< |
| 03:31.00 | Thunder_Child | they didnt have anything to really talk about |
| 03:31.04 | Thunder_Child | this year |
| 03:31.17 | Pneumatus | the closest to UI we got this year was the art panel |
| 03:31.23 | Pneumatus | which barely counts |
| 03:31.25 | Legorol | art panel was cool |
| 03:31.38 | Pneumatus | yeh, the panel was cool but it still wasnt last years UI panel :) |
| 03:31.47 | Legorol | sure |
| 03:32.02 | Pneumatus | cata cinematics was a cool panel as well |
| 03:32.22 | MoonWitch|Mobile | PProvost: I'm still looking for a suitable workaround, I was so excited when I thought I had it - I instantly PMed haste.. but sadly it was a glitch that allowed me to rightclick the buff :*( |
| 03:32.31 | Legorol | tbh, i miss the ability to code an addon to make tactical decisions for you |
| 03:32.35 | Legorol | i do like that kind of modding too |
| 03:32.45 | Legorol | i realise that will never happen to WoW now, but was fun way back when |
| 03:32.51 | Thunder_Child | the wow movie would be so much better if it was done by the cinematics team |
| 03:32.58 | Legorol | haha |
| 03:33.01 | Thunder_Child | live action ftl |
| 03:33.20 | PProvost | MoonWitch|Mobile: I saw someone mention in the Satrina comments that there is a workaround using Secure templates, but it doesn't work in combat. LOL |
| 03:33.22 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lmao - i love mydog... mom puts chairs in the couch to prevent the dog from sleeping in them.. he pulls them out |
| 03:33.42 | MoonWitch|Mobile | PProvost: I/ve tried that route too :( didn't work right |
| 03:34.07 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I don't understand why the hell they took out that functionality |
| 03:34.25 | MoonWitch|Mobile | it's just like a damn macro -- rightclick be gone.. so it's utter crap what they did |
| 03:34.37 | Kraps | man, people shut up about legendaries already |
| 03:34.52 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I can actually foresee the day that they block clickcasting |
| 03:35.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and that would be the day that i quit lol |
| 03:35.24 | MoonWitch|Mobile | is a clickcasting healer. |
| 03:36.10 | Mirrormn | I think a lot of healer would quit if they couldn't clickcast, especially the good ones |
| 03:36.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i would |
| 03:36.22 | Mirrormn | or switch characters/roles |
| 03:36.32 | MoonWitch|Mobile | clickcasting made healing so much easier (not to mention faster) |
| 03:36.56 | *** join/#wowuidev SNiLD (~snild@nurmijarvi.net) |
| 03:36.58 | MoonWitch|Mobile | admittedly, mouseover macros work too, but I'd have to have a shitload of binds just to get by |
| 03:37.05 | Mirrormn | I remember when I learned how to clickcast on my priest |
| 03:37.27 | MoonWitch|Mobile | it was like a world opened up, at least to me |
| 03:37.31 | Mirrormn | a couple weeks later I looked back and thought "wow, a healer who doesn't clickcast is like... a lower form of player" |
| 03:37.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | suddenly I could do my job decently |
| 03:37.54 | Mirrormn | and then I proceded to carry my guild through BT and MH wheee |
| 03:38.11 | MoonWitch|Mobile | well I have to admit, one of my guilds healers doesn't use any addons, he does good (he's a shammy healer) |
| 03:38.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | he's also the heal assigner and always sets himself on the tank ... I, as Disc priest, always get raid :P |
| 03:38.42 | Mirrormn | back then it was me, and another priest who was as good as I was, and then the rest of the healers in our guild kind of sucked |
| 03:39.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | mind you, tank rarely goes unbubbled, unrenewed and unpenanced |
| 03:39.07 | MoonWitch|Mobile | (flash heals too) |
| 03:39.31 | Mirrormn | I really don't like how healing ended up playing in wotlk |
| 03:39.47 | PProvost | The only viable alternative to clickcasting imho is someone who is very good with mouseover macros |
| 03:39.55 | Mirrormn | it was 100 times more fun in BC |
| 03:39.58 | PProvost | I've seen some damn fine healing done that way |
| 03:40.00 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I use a combo :) |
| 03:40.15 | Mirrormn | I actually stopped playing my priest entirely, even as an alt, shortly after ICC came out |
| 03:40.46 | MoonWitch|Mobile | aka flash heal - left mouse, penance - right mouse, renew - shift left, pom shift right, middle = bubble. BH is mouseover, GH, PoH Mouseover |
| 03:40.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | even PI, PS are mouseovers |
| 03:41.08 | Mirrormn | you bound your left mouse button? |
| 03:41.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yep |
| 03:41.19 | Mirrormn | and middle? |
| 03:41.25 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Ctrl-left/right = target/menu |
| 03:41.29 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yep to bubble |
| 03:41.31 | Mirrormn | ick |
| 03:41.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | alt left/right is dispell |
| 03:41.40 | Mirrormn | well I guess that's not terrib;e |
| 03:41.42 | Ycarene | I'm half afraid to tank in heroics with the changes to paladins. Not because I don't think I can do it, but because people have absolutely NO tolerance for even the slightest mistakes. |
| 03:41.52 | Mirrormn | pish |
| 03:41.56 | Mirrormn | disregard haters |
| 03:42.01 | Mirrormn | acquire learning experiences |
| 03:42.08 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Mirrormn: its because I generally always heal in instances/raids |
| 03:42.39 | Ycarene | It doesn't help that I keep getting HoR |
| 03:42.46 | Mirrormn | wait, do you not have thumb buttons on your mouse? |
| 03:42.50 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and for everything else I use shadow, on which my clique setup changes (then ctrl + clicks take the heals and left/right is normal) |
| 03:43.02 | MoonWitch|Mobile | of course I do |
| 03:43.03 | Mirrormn | clickcasting is so much better with thumb buttons -.- |
| 03:43.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I just never bound those for some obscure reason |
| 03:43.14 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lol |
| 03:43.18 | Mirrormn | that's terrible |
| 03:43.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I have a lachesis, so I have pinky buttons too |
| 03:43.30 | MoonWitch|Mobile | but those are shithard to click lol |
| 03:44.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and I hate how lachesis switches profiles based on a game, but doesn't switch back to the default non-game setup |
| 03:44.19 | Mirrormn | so you use Clique for dps also? |
| 03:44.43 | Mirrormn | or just for healing spells while you dps with keybinds? |
| 03:44.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no, it's more of a "in case i have to switch to healing if the healer dies I can" |
| 03:44.50 | Mirrormn | mmm |
| 03:44.58 | MoonWitch|Mobile | just to heal if needed while I dps with keybinds |
| 03:45.01 | Mirrormn | I used to DPS as shadow entirely using Clique |
| 03:45.12 | MoonWitch|Mobile | you did? |
| 03:45.15 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 03:45.18 | MoonWitch|Mobile | interesting, Ive never tried that |
| 03:45.37 | p3lim | good torrent client for linux? prefer one with a gui |
| 03:45.47 | brandonjviles | utorrent |
| 03:45.51 | MoonWitch|Mobile | just a whole shitload of macros (yes, all macro slots are taken on my priest) |
| 03:45.54 | Ycarene | I use a g15 keyboard |
| 03:46.05 | Mirrormn | right: mindflay, shift-left: VT, shift-right: SWP, shift-thumb1: mind blast |
| 03:46.05 | MoonWitch|Mobile | uhm ... shit the name escapes me p3lim |
| 03:46.07 | Mirrormn | etc |
| 03:46.22 | p3lim | using transmission atm, but I get lots of errors :P |
| 03:46.27 | Mirrormn | shift-middle: SWD |
| 03:46.32 | brandonjviles | screw that |
| 03:46.38 | Mirrormn | thumb2: VE |
| 03:46.53 | Mirrormn | that was back in BC also |
| 03:47.12 | Mirrormn | I was actually pretty good at shadow in those days |
| 03:47.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | p3lim: azureus |
| 03:47.15 | p3lim | brandonjviles: utorrent for linux is just in alpha |
| 03:47.21 | Mirrormn | I was basically pretty awesome in general in BC |
| 03:47.22 | brandonjviles | really? |
| 03:47.25 | brandonjviles | umm |
| 03:47.33 | Mirrormn | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.41 | p3lim | MoonWitch|Mobile: ive tried that one on windows I think, didnt like it |
| 03:47.59 | Mirrormn | I use utorrent in windows |
| 03:48.15 | Mirrormn | arrrrgh I need to get some coding done |
| 03:48.20 | Mirrormn | away, wicked distractions! |
| 03:48.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | in that case, sorry :( |
| 03:48.38 | p3lim | I use utorrent in windows too |
| 03:48.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | can't think of one |
| 03:48.42 | MoonWitch|Mobile | as do I |
| 03:48.50 | brandonjviles | look into qBitTorrent |
| 03:48.50 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hasn't utorrent made a nix client? |
| 03:48.58 | p3lim | gah reminds me, can't get pMinimap finished this weekend :/ |
| 03:49.08 | p3lim | just alpha |
| 03:49.25 | MoonWitch|Mobile | do you use kde, gnome, xcfe? |
| 03:49.55 | MoonWitch|Mobile | if you use kde - ktorrent |
| 03:49.55 | Ycarene | xfce |
| 03:50.09 | p3lim | ubuntu maverick, so gnome |
| 03:50.44 | *** join/#wowuidev spode (spode@213.21.119.88) |
| 03:50.44 | Kraps | "in stromgaurde, with atiesh" is the new wow meme |
| 03:51.00 | MoonWitch|Mobile | you could use BitTorrent |
| 03:51.05 | p3lim | ill try qbittorrent, it was updated on friday :) |
| 03:51.13 | p3lim | bitttorrent is basically utorrent |
| 03:51.21 | brandonjviles | looks like it |
| 03:52.10 | p3lim | afk for half an hour :) |
| 03:52.31 | brandonjviles | what you dling? |
| 03:53.37 | MoonWitch|Mobile | what does one download? |
| 03:53.43 | MoonWitch|Mobile | porn or anime usually |
| 03:53.58 | MoonWitch|Mobile | or OSes |
| 03:54.09 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I dl my distros via utorrent |
| 03:54.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | heck p3lim you could just grab opera and use the built in torrentclient :P |
| 03:55.58 | brandonjviles | is the guy who wrote wow programming in her? |
| 03:56.01 | brandonjviles | here* |
| 03:56.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | go to wowprogramming.com for more info :) |
| 03:56.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | where's Cide now, it'd be hilarious |
| 03:57.03 | brandonjviles | do they have a torrent link on the website haah |
| 03:57.04 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ping jnwhiteh |
| 03:57.12 | brandonjviles | jp |
| 03:57.36 | MoonWitch|Mobile | jn knows the guy who wrote it, was gonna ask him .. but alas, I think he's at blizzcon |
| 03:58.40 | airtonix | p3lim, deluge |
| 03:58.44 | Mirrormn | I thought jnwhiteh was aka the guy who wrote it? |
| 03:58.59 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Mirrormn: shhh |
| 03:59.34 | Mirrormn | suddenly wanders off to find something to eat |
| 04:00.48 | brandonjviles | James Whitehead |
| 04:00.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Gagorian (~k@104-172.turkunet.fi) |
| 04:00.57 | brandonjviles | assuming middle initial is N |
| 04:01.29 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Cide is winning |
| 04:01.41 | brandonjviles | at what? |
| 04:01.52 | MoonWitch|Mobile | going back upstairs :) |
| 04:04.16 | *** join/#wowuidev Daegalus (~daegalus@dsl081-057-092.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 04:07.08 | *** join/#wowuidev felipe` (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) |
| 04:07.58 | Kraps | wooo kealagos (sp) is the new blue aspect |
| 04:07.58 | batbot | Kraps, nothing found. |
| 04:08.04 | bleeter | so... signal down again. tourney not over again. gg |
| 04:08.52 | MoonWitch | back |
| 04:09.44 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (~airtonix@unaffiliated/airtonix) |
| 04:14.16 | bleeter | but hey apparently the stream's still going... so it should be there when I catch up ;) |
| 04:15.34 | Kraps | funnies panel evar |
| 04:16.43 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (~airtonix@unaffiliated/airtonix) |
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| 04:17.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 04:17.58 | brandonjviles | gahhhhh I want this book |
| 04:20.23 | Corrodias2 | i suggest transferring money to a bookstore |
| 04:21.28 | bleeter | suggests lard |
| 04:26.35 | Kraps | girl on the violin is hot |
| 04:26.44 | Corrodias2 | girl on girl is hot |
| 04:27.02 | Thunder_Child | depends |
| 04:27.41 | Kraps | Corrodias2: shes playing the sc2 theme, so its pretty hot |
| 04:27.52 | Corrodias2 | haven't heard it |
| 04:28.12 | Corrodias2 | i'm sure it's okay |
| 04:29.00 | Mirrormn | what are you talking about? |
| 04:29.07 | Kraps | at blizzcon |
| 04:29.14 | Mirrormn | I love the sc2 theme, violins, and hot girls |
| 04:29.22 | Mirrormn | I want to be a part of this viewing experience |
| 04:32.15 | Kraps | i dont see it on youtube Mirrormn |
| 04:33.16 | airtonix | lol |
| 04:34.22 | Parnic | can anyone tell me what the X-WoWI-ID metadata is for? does minion use it? |
| 04:36.40 | p3lim | brandonjviles: anime, dexter and southpark :) |
| 04:36.50 | p3lim | airtonix: Ill take a look at that, thanks |
| 04:37.25 | airtonix | p3lim, i only use it because it has the ability to queue torrents one after the other |
| 04:37.39 | p3lim | what do you mean queue? |
| 04:38.04 | p3lim | focus on one until its done? |
| 04:42.07 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (~airtonix@unaffiliated/airtonix) |
| 04:42.12 | brandonjviles | p3lim: have you made any addons? |
| 04:42.24 | p3lim | brandonjviles: to wow? |
| 04:42.28 | brandonjviles | yeah |
| 04:42.48 | p3lim | around 40 of them, why? |
| 04:43.11 | Mirrormn | (heehee) |
| 04:43.17 | brandonjviles | just wondering |
| 04:43.25 | p3lim | ok |
| 04:43.34 | brandonjviles | i guess most of the people here arent noobs |
| 04:43.43 | airtonix | p3lim, http://www.transdroid.org/about/ |
| 04:44.02 | airtonix | p3lim, i was glad to see that it supports remote control of rTorrent client |
| 04:44.47 | p3lim | oh, nice one |
| 04:45.02 | p3lim | i run utorrent on rss, so its more or less automatic already |
| 04:46.23 | airtonix | yeah this app also lets you scan barcodes from dvd cases too >< |
| 04:46.30 | p3lim | lol! |
| 04:46.40 | p3lim | thats a great feature |
| 04:46.52 | airtonix | i can't see my self using it that often though |
| 04:47.21 | p3lim | well I usually see random rental movies at the gas station that i note down |
| 04:47.55 | p3lim | integrated with ezrss too, nice |
| 04:52.30 | p3lim | using ktorrent right now, looks nice and has good script/plugin support |
| 04:52.53 | MoonWitch | :) |
| 04:52.59 | MoonWitch | glad to hear that |
| 04:53.30 | MoonWitch | holy shit |
| 04:53.33 | MoonWitch | it's 7AM |
| 04:53.38 | MoonWitch | I gotta go to bed lol |
| 04:54.22 | airtonix | too late. |
| 04:57.34 | Kraps | spirit healer costume ftw |
| 04:59.13 | p3lim | bed is too late |
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| 04:59.22 | p3lim | might aswell call it a wholenighter |
| 05:03.37 | Kraps | lol tier 2 mage with pet troll rogue |
| 05:04.46 | Mirrormn | so are you just watching Blizzcon on-demand and then commenting on it in IRC despite the fact that it's wildly improbable that anyone else is watching the same thing as you, let alone relatively synced time? |
| 05:05.06 | Mirrormn | cause if so, I like your style |
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| 05:05.46 | Kraps | Mirrormn: i'm pointing out things i find funny |
| 05:06.09 | Kraps | IS THAT A PROBLEM |
| 05:06.20 | Mirrormn | YEAH PRETTY MUCH |
| 05:06.34 | Thunder_Child | LET ALL USE CAPS BECAUSE WE ARE ALL ASSHOLES |
| 05:06.47 | Thunder_Child | LETS* |
| 05:06.52 | Kraps | I DONT SEE HOW MIRRORMN |
| 05:07.08 | Mirrormn | LET'S ALL MAKE META JOKES ABOUT USING CAPS |
| 05:07.14 | Kraps | I AGREE THUNDER_CHILD |
| 05:07.23 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 05:09.04 | Mirrormn | whee |
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| 05:09.58 | Legorol | Has anyone just watched the WoW arena final? I don't understand what happened, why didn't that last game time out between them? |
| 05:10.06 | Kraps | diablo in a suit |
| 05:10.09 | Legorol | Does a kill reset the timer or something? |
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| 05:12.53 | awweaver | i feel dirty using outlook... |
| 05:13.28 | awweaver | only for calendar stuff, to see how it works |
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| 05:21.17 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5671220/trash+talking-warcraft-iii-gamer-gets-fingers-broken-in-revenge-beating |
| 05:22.02 | Ackis | go Canada |
| 05:22.08 | Ackis | Kraps: isn't it past your bedtime? |
| 05:22.30 | Kraps | Ackis: what |
| 05:23.48 | Ackis | anyone here play Infinite Undiscovery? |
| 05:23.54 | Ackis | or should I say "watch it" :| |
| 05:24.01 | Thunder_Child | thats usually a yes or no kinda of repsonse Kraps |
| 05:24.22 | Kraps | sc ghost costume dtw |
| 05:24.38 | Thunder_Child | the one with the light up parts? |
| 05:24.46 | Thunder_Child | worn by a young woman? |
| 05:26.28 | Kraps | young woman, yes; light up parts, didnt notice |
| 05:32.14 | Mirrormn | "It's something that is exceptionally rare, given the number of people who play video games. Most people can separate reality from online fiction" I like how they included that quote |
| 05:32.15 | Ackis | anyone have the syntax to cancel a buff? |
| 05:37.49 | MoonWitch | Ackis, it's not possible with buff addons |
| 05:38.07 | MoonWitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.34 | MoonWitch | CancelAura("aura") cancelAura(aura) |
| 05:38.44 | MoonWitch | etc I tried various methods even to make sure |
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| 05:38.54 | MoonWitch | ~api cancelaura |
| 05:38.55 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_cancelaura |
| 05:40.00 | MoonWitch | ya should be lowercase |
| 05:40.10 | MoonWitch | OOH |
| 05:40.19 | MoonWitch | it's /cancelaura nameofbuff |
| 05:40.22 | MoonWitch | no () |
| 05:40.23 | MoonWitch | >.< |
| 05:40.24 | Ackis | ah |
| 05:40.28 | MoonWitch | *headdesk* |
| 05:40.51 | MoonWitch | going for one more smoke and then sleep |
| 05:41.14 | MoonWitch | see you guys and gals (if there are any right now) on the flipside |
| 05:41.20 | brandonjviles | later |
| 05:41.22 | MoonWitch | and Ackis, *hug* |
| 05:41.25 | brandonjviles | thanks for you help |
| 05:41.30 | MoonWitch | yw |
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| 06:15.51 | brandonjviles | can you put textures in the addon folder with your addon, or does it have to be in a folder directly under interface? |
| 06:16.27 | airtonix | yes and no but yes if you want |
| 06:17.12 | airtonix | brandonjviles, look at the source of SharedMedia |
| 06:18.08 | brandonjviles | ok |
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| 06:23.04 | Mirrormn | you can even put textures in the main wow folder |
| 06:23.10 | Mirrormn | if you *really* want to |
| 06:23.59 | Mirrormn | but it's rather difficult to get them anywhere other than your addon's folder in terms of end-user installation |
| 06:24.04 | Mirrormn | and useless |
| 06:24.19 | brandonjviles | ok |
| 06:24.25 | brandonjviles | i see your point |
| 06:25.02 | Mirrormn | I once had to put a huge bunch of textures in my main wow folder to be accessed by an addon |
| 06:25.07 | Mirrormn | for reasons I'd rather not go into |
| 06:25.12 | brandonjviles | but im really not wanting to distribute what im doing *atm* - althought following good practices now will help me do better in the future |
| 06:26.55 | airtonix | makes your reisntall less painful too |
| 06:26.55 | airtonix | and you WILL reinstall |
| 06:26.55 | airtonix | don't kid yourself that you won't |
| 06:27.14 | Mirrormn | huh? |
| 06:27.27 | Mirrormn | I've had the same WoW folder for ~5 years :D |
| 06:27.39 | airtonix | lies |
| 06:28.13 | Mirrormn | okay, technically I've copied it from a couple different hard drives |
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| 06:48.52 | solocommand | whats the best way to find out what things are called in other locales? |
| 06:50.13 | mikma | boo, can't login |
| 06:54.21 | mikma | anyone else in EU having connection problems? |
| 06:56.09 | Zyn | maybe that explains why I was left alone @ scarlet monastery |
| 06:58.55 | mikma | ubable to connect, please try again later. |
| 06:59.58 | Zyn | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=15042267168&sid=1 |
| 07:00.16 | Zyn | kekbur, using <br> :[ |
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| 07:15.18 | Computerpunk | I heard Africa's a big country. |
| 07:16.10 | Ycarene | Are you quoting sombody there? |
| 07:17.10 | Computerpunk | Yep. |
| 07:17.11 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 07:17.19 | Computerpunk | Whose Line Is It Anyway |
| 07:17.28 | Computerpunk | It's an inside joke I love. XD |
| 07:17.48 | sade | is there an attribute to make it to where you can click through a from? |
| 07:17.57 | sade | frame* |
| 07:18.18 | Computerpunk | http://books.google.ro/books?id=tFZyUCoZe7EC&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq=frame+click+through+attribute&source=bl&ots=9ave7FsOqj&sig=6vpG6bOAajZHWKWYV3V64eqR3VM&hl=ro&ei=sd3DTMXkBs3ysgbW0oTfCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=frame%20click%20through%20attribute&f=false |
| 07:19.21 | Computerpunk | self:UnregisterForClicks("LeftButtonUp") |
| 07:19.37 | Computerpunk | (Left, Right, Middle)Button(Up, Down) |
| 07:19.39 | Computerpunk | are parameters |
| 07:19.45 | Computerpunk | that's from what I see. |
| 07:20.48 | sade | ty |
| 07:20.57 | Mirrormn | could just do self:EnableMouse(false) |
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| 07:22.49 | sade | im overlaying an image over actionbar buttons and I want it to light up when certain conditions are met, so i need to be able to click thorough |
| 07:24.15 | Computerpunk | Mirrormn, I'm pretty new to the WoW API too, helping out how I can. XD |
| 07:24.28 | sade | wb p3lim |
| 07:24.51 | sade | mirror is cool, and you are cool too. i like that link you gave me... |
| 07:25.03 | sade | too bad i didnt have access to that like 2 days ago |
| 07:25.13 | sade | i wouldnt have been buggin everyone in here so much |
| 07:25.46 | Mirrormn | it's all about http://www.wowpedia.org/Widget_API |
| 07:26.10 | sade | yeah, thats great and all |
| 07:26.40 | sade | but when you cant even get a frame to show up and you have no clue what is nessasary for it to do so... |
| 07:27.02 | sade | but not i have my first frame with a graphic that i made so im pretty happy :D |
| 07:27.19 | sade | now* |
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| 07:29.28 | Mirrormn | frames don't "show up", only texture children of frames do =/ |
| 07:30.18 | sade | that was my problem |
| 07:32.00 | sade | i initially made a frame name test and then print(test,"hello world") but it showed up in chat frame with a bunch of numbers |
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| 07:45.46 | Wobin | oh man, watching the costume contest |
| 07:45.56 | Wobin | worst place to have hooves on that ramp =P |
| 07:47.43 | Wobin | also, I'm quite impressed at people's ability to move on those draenei shoes |
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| 07:57.20 | Fisker | so are you guys looking forward to using 20 seconds more to login? |
| 07:57.45 | Computerpunk | Fisker, wat? |
| 07:58.33 | Fisker | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/2040-Blizzcon-2010-Art-Panel-and-Cinematics-Panel-Pictures <- :) |
| 07:59.06 | Computerpunk | COME THE FUCK ON |
| 07:59.10 | Computerpunk | Sorry. |
| 07:59.38 | Computerpunk | 20 seconds |
| 07:59.40 | Computerpunk | till login appears. |
| 07:59.41 | Computerpunk | come on |
| 07:59.52 | Fisker | rage :P |
| 08:00.05 | Fisker | to be fair i don't think it'll make it live, but you never know |
| 08:00.19 | Computerpunk | I agree with the second part. XD |
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| 08:03.42 | Mirrormn | it could easily just be a "login boxes are hidden until you move the cursor" type deal |
| 08:03.50 | Mirrormn | or just demo functionality |
| 08:04.16 | Computerpunk | Or just implemented functionality cause devs are too lazy to remove. |
| 08:04.19 | Computerpunk | Been there, done that. |
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| 08:23.20 | sade | computerpunk, have you made any addons? |
| 08:38.28 | robokitty | Fisker, stop hacking the login servers |
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| 08:58.07 | Computerpunk | sade, yes. |
| 08:58.20 | Computerpunk | Most of them related in Warhammer. |
| 08:58.41 | Computerpunk | 1 in WoW, second one coming. And continuing another one. |
| 09:06.57 | Computerpunk | http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/ |
| 09:06.58 | Computerpunk | look here. |
| 09:07.13 | Computerpunk | I've got so many because WarHammer ones are like FuBar_FU stuff |
| 09:07.16 | Computerpunk | And I've got most of them. |
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| 09:09.09 | Computerpunk | sade. |
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| 09:57.55 | harl | hi |
| 10:00.22 | Computerpunk | hello harl. |
| 10:09.33 | Mirrormn | http://i.imgur.com/XnrZ5.jpg =O |
| 10:09.50 | Mirrormn | (bonus: read the first letters of each line) |
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| 10:28.15 | Modernn | i'm new to LUA and i'm trying to update an old addon for 4.0.1, anyone that can give me a hand? |
| 10:28.50 | olafski | you may want to ask a more specific question |
| 10:29.34 | Mirrormn | so that we may more easily crush your dreams >:) |
| 10:30.03 | Modernn | Atm i'm trying to update Gold Raid Manager, so that it works on live. I have a basic knowledge of programming and LUA, i downloaded WoW UI Designer |
| 10:30.49 | Yoshimo | is it possible to get the name of the person that is constantly pinging the minimap in alteracvalley? |
| 10:37.19 | olafski | I think someone made an addon for that yoshimo |
| 10:37.43 | olafski | and speaking of.. is there any "mount/pet/tabard collection" addon that works properly at the moment? :) |
| 10:42.33 | Yoshimo | collectinator has just a small flickering problem every now and then but seems to work fine |
| 10:42.54 | Yoshimo | tabards, can you even get a list of those you already have? |
| 10:43.40 | Computerpunk | Modernn, what you need to do is gather errors. |
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| 10:53.02 | olafski | yoshimo: no, I don't think you can :) |
| 10:53.09 | olafski | yoshimo: thanks, I'll get collectinator then |
| 10:53.35 | olafski | having to manually check all those tabards all the time is quite annoying =( |
| 11:12.53 | Modernn | anyone know of a solid addon to show what errors i'm recieveing in wow, or how to do it normally? |
| 11:13.44 | olafski | "show lua errors" in interface options? |
| 11:14.39 | Yoshimo | you could also use bugsack or swatter to collect them and show them later |
| 11:14.39 | nevcairiel | BugGrabber/BugSack, imho |
| 11:15.09 | Modernn | awesome ty |
| 11:15.31 | olafski | that works too I guess :P |
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| 11:21.13 | olafski | wow the comments on that replacement mod for gold raid manager are quite harsh =( |
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| 11:39.30 | zenzelezz | "During the BlizzCon 2010 dance competition, one of the competitors reportedly broke his leg. The man was performing a particularly enthusiastic rendition of the male undead dance when he slipped and fell on the stage. He got up a moment later to resume his dance, but quickly fell a second time and did not get back up." |
| 11:39.32 | zenzelezz | o_O |
| 11:40.53 | olafski | eh.. he fell _on_ the stage and broke his leg? |
| 11:40.56 | olafski | brittle.. |
| 11:41.09 | cbreak | maybe he was heavy. |
| 11:41.13 | zenzelezz | well, undead do seem fragile |
| 11:41.21 | foxlit | It all depends on *how* you fall, really. |
| 11:41.22 | cbreak | potential energy is not only influenced by height but also by mass |
| 11:41.23 | zenzelezz | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/10/23/blizzcon-2010-man-breaks-leg-in-dance-contest/ (yes, I know, WoWinsider) |
| 11:41.39 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwlfJmuY1GI |
| 11:41.47 | foxlit | They've succeeded in making Godfrey look awesome. |
| 11:41.54 | cbreak | youtube seems broken |
| 11:42.08 | cbreak | when I go to a user page and then try to switch to grid view, I get "grid has been terminated due to repeated or severe violations of our Community Guidelines and/or claims of copyright infringement." |
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| 11:42.17 | cbreak | I didn't know that grid view is a user |
| 11:42.42 | Yoshimo | hurts |
| 11:46.50 | olafski | I need 2500 honor.. what's the way to get that, that requires the least amount of playtime? |
| 11:48.09 | cbreak | WinterGrasp? |
| 11:48.23 | olafski | thought so.. okay +) time to leech that one for a bit |
| 11:48.51 | olafski | just noticed there are 2 mounts I can buy with honor that I don't have yet :O |
| 11:48.54 | nevcairiel | zenzelezz: i dont think he actually did, the way they carried him, grabbing him at the supposedly broken leg .. he would've screamed in pain :p |
| 11:49.59 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: he probably just hurt his pride, better to fake an injury |
| 11:50.03 | cbreak | maybe his ankles broke |
| 11:50.24 | nevcairiel | he did fall quite often |
| 11:51.23 | olafski | one of the comments on that page says they saw him walking 2 hours later with some bandage on his leg |
| 11:51.31 | foxlit | As someone who broke a leg once, I can tell you that it isn't necessarily "scream out loud" painful. |
| 11:52.06 | foxlit | Some bandage could well be a cast. :) |
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| 12:10.59 | olafski | can you walk with that though? :s |
| 12:11.04 | olafski | I don't know all the details of course.. |
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| 12:23.03 | nevcairiel | anyone else just got dc'ed and cannot login anymore? |
| 12:24.18 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 12:24.19 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 12:24.34 | nevcairiel | that page isnt even loading :d |
| 12:25.00 | nevcairiel | (eu version) |
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| 12:32.15 | mitchnull | I can log in (eu) |
| 12:33.27 | nevcairiel | yeah works again, it seems |
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| 12:44.18 | zenzelezz | http://failblog.org/2010/10/24/epic-fail-photos-dump-truck-clearance-fail/ - that is one strong sign |
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| 13:31.43 | Yoshimo | whats this wow inspect bug about? |
| 13:35.50 | Napoleone | works fine now |
| 13:35.59 | Spejnar | probably just limit to not fuck up the server with crazy amounts of requests |
| 13:39.06 | Computerpunk | Modernn, what did you want to send me through dcc? |
| 13:43.32 | Kraps | why is the cata login screen A ROARING DRAGON AGAIN |
| 13:44.16 | Spejnar | because deathwing is not a gnome, RAWR |
| 13:44.20 | Napoleone | because they like the crouching dragon hidden lich king |
| 13:46.11 | Kraps | after all the complaints... |
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| 13:49.07 | Computerpunk | Modernn, :< |
| 13:49.08 | Computerpunk | afk |
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| 14:02.06 | Wobin | if you want some time to waste: http://www.kongregate.com/games/TwinkleStarGames/electric-box-2 |
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| 14:12.04 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hey Humbedooh |
| 14:12.11 | Humbedooh | hey me |
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| 14:34.33 | MoonWitch | hey Cide |
| 14:34.44 | Cide | hi |
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| 14:39.05 | MoonWitch | hi p3lim |
| 14:39.13 | MoonWitch | did it work out with kTorrent? |
| 14:41.13 | olafski | < Kraps> why is the cata login screen A ROARING DRAGON AGAIN <-- agreed :( all the login screens they showed in the art panel looked better |
| 14:42.09 | nevcairiel | obviously because the whole expansion is about this dragon that destroyed the world, duh! |
| 14:44.30 | olafski | wotlk wasn't about a dragon and they still managed to put one on the login screen |
| 14:44.40 | Kraps | nevcairiel: were you around at the massive QQ about the stupid roar and blizzard saying the complaints were correct? |
| 14:44.43 | olafski | they could just put a goblin on the login screen |
| 14:45.01 | olafski | or a stone statue |
| 14:45.25 | nevcairiel | I still don't get why people complain so much, login faster, and you don't hear it, and even if you do, i mean, its not louder then ingame sound effects |
| 14:45.33 | amro | the roar is awesome |
| 14:45.59 | nevcairiel | Also, deathwing looks awesome |
| 14:46.01 | Kraps | no amro |
| 14:46.12 | amro | ok |
| 14:46.17 | A-KO | yeah I rather like the deathwing login screen |
| 14:46.17 | amro | back to dark portal login then |
| 14:46.24 | amro | with nothing at all happening |
| 14:46.35 | A-KO | the portal login says nothing about the expansion, it looks completely unrelated unlesss you follow the story--which most people do not. |
| 14:46.54 | nevcairiel | besides, everyone is jumping to conclusions about some video, that is not even on beta yet, don't even mentioning live :p |
| 14:46.54 | amro | well it gives the impression that you're entering a portal |
| 14:46.58 | olafski | login faster.. bleh |
| 14:47.17 | amro | already knew you were slow |
| 14:47.18 | olafski | I regularly just walk away and then only return to my pc just to press escape because I hear that annoying dragon roar |
| 14:47.22 | Kraps | the _screen_ is fine, the roar is not |
| 14:47.26 | olafski | exactly |
| 14:47.35 | olafski | just give us an option to turn off the sound :P |
| 14:47.43 | amro | -nosound |
| 14:47.45 | amro | </fisker> |
| 14:47.47 | olafski | though I get less fps in the login screen than anywhere in wow |
| 14:47.53 | olafski | that's quite annoying too :P |
| 14:48.10 | nevcairiel | why do you measure fps on the login screen? and more importantly, why does it matter? |
| 14:48.17 | MoonWitch | olafski: it could have been the other way around ;) that's worse |
| 14:48.40 | olafski | I don't measure fps, it just feels sluggish |
| 14:48.48 | olafski | I hate sluggish anywhere, no matter if it's just a login screen |
| 14:49.02 | olafski | just give me a black screen with 3 text fields :P |
| 14:49.16 | Kraps | siny just flies real slow |
| 14:49.22 | Kraps | sindy* |
| 14:49.39 | amro | I don't get how you can call a massive undead dragon that wants to kill you sindy |
| 14:50.01 | Kraps | whos a good sindy? you are! |
| 14:50.03 | nevcairiel | we also call deathwing deathy! |
| 14:50.30 | nevcairiel | Speaking of deathy, anyone know when we will get our deathy pet from the virtual blizzcon ticket? |
| 14:50.44 | MoonWitch | in a week or two it said on the site |
| 14:51.01 | MoonWitch | because while WE have to pay instantly for virtual stuff, they do not :P |
| 14:51.07 | zenzelezz | one does not simply virtual Deathwing |
| 14:51.10 | olafski | nevcairiel: and how about looking at it the other way.. if it's just a login screen, why do they have to make it so obnoxious? |
| 14:51.19 | nevcairiel | olafski: i think its cool |
| 14:51.34 | olafski | well, according to kraps, many people don't think it is :P |
| 14:51.37 | zenzelezz | I think it's cool too |
| 14:51.52 | nevcairiel | olafski: its the internets, people that don't like something are always way louder then everyone else |
| 14:51.57 | nevcairiel | doesn't mean they are the majority |
| 14:52.11 | Kraps | months after launch there were still QQ threads about the roar |
| 14:52.11 | zenzelezz | still, the simplicity of the vanilla/BC login screens weren't bad |
| 14:52.18 | olafski | indeed |
| 14:52.27 | olafski | and putting in an option to disable sound is really not that hard :P |
| 14:52.49 | olafski | hell just give me a "save password" box and just take me to the character select screen as soon as I click the icon on my desktop |
| 14:52.54 | nevcairiel | Like i said, you can't measure if the majority hates it just by going by QQ threads, because, uh, people that like it will not say a word. |
| 14:52.56 | zenzelezz | Blizzard heard your roar QQ and said "You think that's bad? Wait till you hear the new Launcher Play sound!" |
| 14:53.21 | olafski | they did actually admit that the launcher sound was too loud didn't they? |
| 14:53.25 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 14:53.25 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 14:53.26 | Kraps | zenzelezz +1 |
| 14:53.35 | olafski | and I do think the login screen sound is actually louder than my ingame sound |
| 14:53.36 | MoonWitch | well it is painfully loud lol |
| 14:53.42 | olafski | could be that it just annoys me more, but I'm quite sure |
| 14:53.58 | zenzelezz | olafski: but ckknight (I think it was) reminded me that Vista/Win7 has much better sound volume control, so you can mute only the launcher |
| 14:54.07 | nevcairiel | sit in front of a dragon roaring ingame, i bet its the same volume :) |
| 14:54.09 | p3lim | hm, looking for a linux program that works like OSX's Dashboard |
| 14:54.12 | olafski | I don't even use the launcher.. annoying extra click |
| 14:54.43 | nevcairiel | with the new streaming thing its greatly advised to use the launcher, fwiw |
| 14:54.54 | olafski | nevcairiel: I have either master volume or sound effects set to 5%.. I think the login screen doesn't "listen" to that |
| 14:54.56 | nevcairiel | It'll apply fixes to your files that the game won't do otherwise |
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| 14:55.09 | olafski | those fixes can't be too crucial then, if they're optional |
| 14:55.22 | nevcairiel | not critical, but they optimize game play |
| 14:55.27 | olafski | meh :P |
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| 14:57.01 | olafski | in what way could those fixes optimize my gameplay? I left the launcher on once, it was busy applying updates for like 10 minutes |
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| 14:57.21 | nevcairiel | see, it did something |
| 14:57.33 | olafski | something I didn't notice |
| 14:58.01 | olafski | it's only on because my gf keeps turning it on.. really should get her a pc of her own |
| 14:58.01 | Cide | maybe you would have if it didn't? |
| 14:58.22 | olafski | I'm sure if it was something important blizzard wouldn't have given me an option not to apply it ;) |
| 14:58.46 | Cide | maybe you'd lack a texture or something |
| 14:58.56 | olafski | for 10 minutes? :s |
| 14:58.57 | cbreak | why own pc? |
| 14:59.02 | cbreak | don't you have user accounts on windows? |
| 14:59.05 | nevcairiel | Anyhow, the point is, the launcher isnt just a launcher anymore, its basically the tool that manages your streaming content |
| 14:59.21 | olafski | don't I get that streaming content ingame too? |
| 14:59.22 | nevcairiel | so, using it = smart! |
| 14:59.32 | olafski | cbreak: why would I bother with that =( it's my pc, she gets to use it at times |
| 14:59.53 | cbreak | because you are different users, who want to use different settings and different files |
| 15:00.04 | olafski | so an own pc makes sense to me |
| 15:00.09 | nevcairiel | sure, it streams stuff that it needs from ingame as well. But i rather prefer letting it load everything, and not run into some new room that i havent been in for a month and still having stuff to load :p |
| 15:00.16 | olafski | especially considering we'd probably want those different settings at the same time from time to time :P |
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| 15:00.32 | olafski | nevcairiel: if you don't go there for a month, why do you need the textures for it? |
| 15:00.41 | olafski | I've found the streaming download to be quite smooth |
| 15:00.44 | nevcairiel | if i go there, i want to have them |
| 15:00.48 | nevcairiel | and not having to wait for them to load |
| 15:01.11 | nevcairiel | disk space is so super cheap, why not have them |
| 15:01.13 | olafski | started the PTR client as soon as it was out of the red and the only time I had to wait for 3 seconds was right after I created a new character |
| 15:01.57 | cbreak | I had 1fps loading phases for several minutes after flying out of dalaran in the first few hours |
| 15:02.16 | cbreak | it was quite anoying |
| 15:02.22 | cbreak | even though I was already in green |
| 15:02.33 | olafski | hm, never noticed that |
| 15:02.36 | amro | green doesn't mean you have all zones |
| 15:02.38 | olafski | but I haven't been to dalaran with the PTR |
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| 15:02.47 | amro | with the streaming client, you can force it to load what you need |
| 15:02.48 | olafski | only in elwynn forest and westfall :) |
| 15:02.56 | amro | log in dalaran, fly out, afk there while it loads |
| 15:03.06 | amro | if you use the launcher, it could be loading Netherstorm when you want to be storm peaks |
| 15:03.35 | nevcairiel | The point is, when i then go to netherstorm, i don't want to have to wait *again* :) |
| 15:03.37 | amro | the combination of launcher+client is better than before, which was patcher+stfu and wait |
| 15:03.49 | MoonWitch | gah I hate DVDs ripped as ISO files |
| 15:03.51 | amro | nevcairiel: yes, but you'd wait more overall |
| 15:03.58 | amro | assuming you want to be in storm peaks asap, use the client |
| 15:04.03 | amro | otherwise, let it load to 100% |
| 15:04.24 | Cide | the proper point though is that you can keep the launcher running while you're afk |
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| 15:04.31 | Cide | and thus save on active time |
| 15:04.34 | nevcairiel | very few people play 24/7, so letting it finish the download in your time when you don't play is not "waiting" =) |
| 15:05.07 | nevcairiel | and on patch days .. it rarely happens that i have to wait for the patch to finish |
| 15:05.09 | amro | no, but assuming a patch was just out, and you just launched wow... |
| 15:05.13 | nevcairiel | i mostly wait for the servers to get back up |
| 15:05.14 | amro | yes, good for you |
| 15:05.19 | amro | not everyone is on german broadband |
| 15:05.42 | nevcairiel | you know, slow-ass connections even further destroy the ingame streaming experience |
| 15:05.43 | amro | and the point is that you can just use the launcher |
| 15:05.47 | amro | and it's just as good as the patcher before |
| 15:05.56 | amro | but those who want to can access the game earlier with the streaming client |
| 15:05.58 | amro | it's a win win |
| 15:06.13 | Cide | yes, yes it is |
| 15:06.34 | Cide | the point was that not using the launcher isn't smart |
| 15:06.39 | amro | oh |
| 15:06.47 | amro | yeah, launch via the launcher so you have an idea of what's up |
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| 15:07.08 | nevcairiel | even if you dont let the launcher run until its completed, using it is still the better choice |
| 15:07.13 | amro | yes |
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| 15:07.29 | Snotty_ | o/ |
| 15:07.32 | amro | o/ |
| 15:07.34 | amro | wait |
| 15:07.38 | amro | don't touch my hand Snotty_ |
| 15:09.54 | Snotty_ | I got a problem with widgets - can't seem to get them to show up, but I've deleted the mod, which is preventing it from doing anything at all |
| 15:10.22 | nevcairiel | You'll have to give us some more context .. what widgets? what mod? |
| 15:10.54 | Snotty_ | any widget - in particular - I wanted to mod the gametooltip - pop some extra info on mobs |
| 15:11.10 | amro | start from the start |
| 15:11.16 | amro | what mod, why'd you delete it, etc |
| 15:11.38 | Snotty_ | the mod I was working on - and cause it didn't work |
| 15:11.49 | Snotty_ | it was supposed to be a mobinfo2 clone |
| 15:12.32 | Snotty_ | its 2AM here btw - and I'm a little tipsy - so please excuse me if I'm not making too much sense |
| 15:14.22 | Snotty_ | I'm mostly doing it as a first mod - like for educational purposes - are we allowed to say education in this chat? |
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| 15:14.36 | MoonWitch | depends |
| 15:15.25 | Snotty_ | I've not worked with lua before - so it's a little funny to me with the .. and ... stuff |
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| 15:16.01 | Snotty_ | and I need a new nick |
| 15:16.49 | amro | I don't know if that's better |
| 15:17.03 | WrectedAngle | its more descriptive of my current state though |
| 15:17.33 | amro | I think you typo'd it |
| 15:17.42 | amro | also, we still have no idea what you're asking |
| 15:17.59 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: damn you for linking that game |
| 15:18.27 | Kraps | wtb working on demand |
| 15:18.28 | WrectedAngle | well - less than asking - I'm kind of trying to find the netiquette of this channel |
| 15:19.10 | WrectedAngle | I'll try to write the mod again later - if I still can't get it to go - I'll use the paste bin - and ask |
| 15:19.34 | Kraps | WrectedAngle: sounds legit |
| 15:20.33 | WrectedAngle | right now though I should really go to sleep - but I think I'm possessed |
| 15:23.47 | Kraps | gg the art panel has no audio |
| 15:23.48 | amro | WrectedAngle: netiquette here is basically google your question, read PIL, and if you still have trouble ask in here explaining what you're trying to accomplish |
| 15:23.50 | amro | and use a pastebin |
| 15:24.34 | WrectedAngle | PIL? |
| 15:24.44 | Cide | failed part 1 |
| 15:24.47 | Cide | gtfo |
| 15:24.52 | WrectedAngle | =( |
| 15:25.26 | amro | ~Cide++ |
| 15:25.28 | amro | ~pil |
| 15:25.28 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 15:25.51 | WrectedAngle | k - ty |
| 15:27.03 | WrectedAngle | I wasn't getting errors - I've been coding C++ for years - errors can be easily googled nearly 100% of all cases - it was more I was leaving something WoW like out and the tooltip was unchanged |
| 15:27.28 | WrectedAngle | but I have flicked through the book |
| 15:27.34 | foxlit | WTB seek bar in rayv :( |
| 15:27.47 | Cide | isn't there one? |
| 15:28.11 | foxlit | not for me :/ |
| 15:28.39 | Kraps | might need to reload |
| 15:28.40 | amro | foxlit: are you on windows? |
| 15:28.45 | foxlit | yes |
| 15:28.49 | amro | odd |
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| 15:31.19 | WrectedAngle | coffee machine is go |
| 15:31.44 | foxlit | flash has a strange gray bar -- clicking does nothing |
| 15:31.48 | foxlit | rayv has no hint of a seekbar |
| 15:34.27 | Kraps | foxlit: reload? |
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| 15:34.33 | foxlit | Kraps: did |
| 15:34.58 | Kraps | happened to me last night too but its fine now |
| 15:35.56 | WrectedAngle | K - so would I need to do anything more than GameTooltip:AddLine("Test"); to get that to show? |
| 15:37.31 | Kraps | the new sets in cata look amazing |
| 15:37.52 | WrectedAngle | sets? |
| 15:38.10 | Kraps | areas? |
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| 15:39.11 | WrectedAngle | I like the DX3D11 on world - though the only diff I've noticed it the water |
| 15:39.39 | WrectedAngle | looks nice though |
| 15:39.51 | Napoleone | i cant get the water to work |
| 15:40.23 | WrectedAngle | yeah - for a while I couldn't see it from above - was invisible - but today it came on - and it looked mad |
| 15:40.23 | cbreak | Napoleone: the key to getting water to work is a carnot cycle |
| 15:40.25 | Kraps | wtf audio/video not in sync |
| 15:41.02 | olafski | there's also some difference with sunrays or something |
| 15:41.18 | olafski | I turned off the new water effect.. dunno if I still have the sun stuff enabled |
| 15:41.26 | WrectedAngle | I hope they redo the whole lot in DX11 - like the Eve Online upgrade - would bring a new life to the game |
| 15:41.28 | Kraps | olafski: bigtime difference |
| 15:41.47 | olafski | unlikely I think wrectedangle |
| 15:42.09 | olafski | kraps: sure, the water was quite different too.. not worth losing about half my fps over though :) |
| 15:42.17 | WrectedAngle | it might happen in time - I read an article where one of the devs was thinking the game had 10-20 more years in it |
| 15:42.18 | olafski | not like I play this game for the graphics anyway |
| 15:42.30 | WrectedAngle | heh |
| 15:42.41 | Kraps | olafski: even on the "good" setting? |
| 15:42.43 | cbreak | I hope blizzard fixes their OpenGL engine. |
| 15:43.01 | cbreak | it works rather nice in WoW, but in SC2 there are tones of problems with it. |
| 15:43.04 | olafski | kraps: yeah, the difference between old and new water was 15-20 fps |
| 15:43.10 | cbreak | wonder if they use a similar engine ... hmm... |
| 15:44.01 | Kraps | holy crap rayv sucks |
| 15:44.32 | WrectedAngle | olafski - I got 2xGF9800GTS - but with the good water I only get 20 FPS average - without it sits on 60 most times |
| 15:44.37 | Napoleone | are they even using opengl? |
| 15:44.48 | cbreak | of course they are |
| 15:45.01 | olafski | wrectedangle: 8800gtx here.. bout the same :) |
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| 15:45.08 | cbreak | not like there's any viable alternative on most platforms |
| 15:45.12 | olafski | I guess newer cards will take less of a hit |
| 15:45.26 | WrectedAngle | yeah - I wasted money on the SLI - seriously not worth what I paid when it was new |
| 15:45.34 | olafski | :) |
| 15:45.39 | olafski | I "wasted" money on this one as well |
| 15:45.50 | olafski | though now, about 4 years later, it still runs anything I want it to run so I guess it's okay |
| 15:46.01 | WrectedAngle | I got another computer in the store atm - has a 240 in it - works better than this - though only so much |
| 15:46.02 | olafski | 600 euro is what I'd spend on a whole pc now though, not on a graphics card :) |
| 15:46.24 | WrectedAngle | yeah |
| 15:46.25 | Kraps | "There might be an issue with some of the Video On Demand programs. We're working to solve it ASAP, sorry for the inconvenience." |
| 15:46.46 | WrectedAngle | btw - can I ask my question again? |
| 15:46.53 | Thrae | The 5850 has been reduced in price to be reasonable, and the GTX 460 1GB is about as much as anyone should need. |
| 15:48.42 | WrectedAngle | besides what lua I need to put in to make no error - do I need to do any more than GameTooltip:AddLine("Test"); or do I need to tie this to an event? |
| 15:50.09 | Thrae | WrectedAngle: The GameTooltip is a little special. It needs to be shown from an event. It can't just appear from nothing. |
| 15:50.27 | WrectedAngle | can that event be when the player enters the game |
| 15:50.44 | WrectedAngle | or does it have to be a mouse over something |
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| 15:52.34 | WrectedAngle | and thanks Thrae |
| 15:53.56 | Thrae | WrectedAngle: I've only used it responding to events GameTooltip naturally handles. You can create a new tooltip object (also called GameTooltip, but it won't be THE GameTooltip) and play around with that. There are things that go on behind the scenes with THE GameTooltip object that make it work a bit differently. |
| 15:54.31 | WrectedAngle | that answers my question in a round about way |
| 15:54.32 | WrectedAngle | ty |
| 15:55.02 | WrectedAngle | 1680x1050 is just not big enough |
| 15:55.42 | Napoleone | An action was blocked in combat because of taint from WowLua - CompactRaidFrame2:Hide() lol wtf |
| 15:55.43 | zenzelezz | 640x480 ought to be enough for everyone |
| 15:56.23 | WrectedAngle | not for this many windows |
| 15:57.25 | Computerpunk | zenzelezz, you know the oldie with 10 mb hdds? |
| 15:57.39 | Computerpunk | http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a19/Clarisworkz/10MB_HDD_2.jpg |
| 15:57.56 | MoonWitch | my god |
| 15:57.58 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 15:58.01 | zenzelezz | that's so cheap it's like giving it away! |
| 15:58.08 | olafski | may I say "old"? |
| 15:58.17 | zenzelezz | but Computerpunk, I hope you recognised my play on the classic Bill Gates quote |
| 15:58.25 | Kraps | thats a real ad? |
| 15:58.25 | Computerpunk | I did. |
| 15:58.31 | Computerpunk | Bill Gates always said stuff like. |
| 15:58.45 | Computerpunk | "this <thing> should be enough for the whole planet" |
| 15:58.49 | olafski | which he never did say :( |
| 15:58.53 | cbreak | we had a computer at my school that had a hard disk that weighted a metric ton. 5 mb capacity. size of a washing machine. |
| 15:58.57 | olafski | damn hippies |
| 15:59.16 | MoonWitch | cbreak -- I vaguely recall hearing about such stories |
| 15:59.22 | Computerpunk | My dad used to work at an institute with room-sized computers. |
| 15:59.29 | Computerpunk | so, yeah. |
| 15:59.53 | WrectedAngle | btw - if anyone knows off hand - what is the event for when the cursor goes over a player/NPC? |
| 16:00.02 | WrectedAngle | (I am looking) |
| 16:00.08 | zenzelezz | olafski: according to Wikiquote, you're right |
| 16:00.33 | Computerpunk | WrectedAngle, you know TipTac? qTip? |
| 16:00.40 | cbreak | WrectedAngle: there should be some unit changed event for unit mouseover |
| 16:00.41 | Computerpunk | !addon Tip |
| 16:00.45 | Computerpunk | ~addon Tip |
| 16:00.47 | Computerpunk | <_> |
| 16:00.50 | Computerpunk | what was it |
| 16:00.53 | Computerpunk | goddamn you purl! |
| 16:00.55 | WrectedAngle | k |
| 16:00.58 | olafski | zenzelezz: :) |
| 16:01.03 | cbreak | > addon(tip) |
| 16:01.08 | cbreak | :) |
| 16:01.20 | olafski | zenzelezz: he said something about hating how everyone always quoted him on that when he never actually said it |
| 16:01.35 | Computerpunk | lua> io.write("I am purl.") |
| 16:01.41 | Computerpunk | mm? |
| 16:01.46 | zenzelezz | olafski: yeah, basically exactly what Wikiquote said too. |
| 16:02.02 | zenzelezz | it's unfortunate of course, but misquotation is more fun sometimes |
| 16:02.16 | Computerpunk | lua> print("I am purl.") |
| 16:02.24 | Computerpunk | sup with purl? |
| 16:02.25 | Computerpunk | looping? |
| 16:02.32 | zenzelezz | purl doesn't do lua |
| 16:02.32 | MoonWitch | no clue |
| 16:02.39 | zenzelezz | lua_bot does lua |
| 16:02.42 | Computerpunk | ohhh. |
| 16:02.42 | Computerpunk | :o |
| 16:02.46 | zenzelezz | (and batbot, I think) |
| 16:02.49 | haste | jnwhiteh: lua_bot timed out yesterday |
| 16:02.52 | haste | !lua 1 |
| 16:02.52 | zenzelezz | !lua arf |
| 16:02.52 | batbot | haste: > 1 |
| 16:02.52 | batbot | zenzelezz: > nil |
| 16:02.55 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 16:03.04 | Computerpunk | !lua io.write("I am batbot?") |
| 16:03.04 | batbot | Computerpunk: I am batbot? |
| 16:03.04 | batbot | Computerpunk: > true |
| 16:03.05 | Computerpunk | k |
| 16:03.06 | Computerpunk | works |
| 16:03.13 | MoonWitch | so batbot responds to !lua |
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| 16:03.21 | zenzelezz | MoonWitch: what makes you think so? :) |
| 16:03.22 | MoonWitch | and lua_bot to lua> |
| 16:03.29 | haste | yes |
| 16:03.29 | Computerpunk | lua> print("I AM BACK!!!") |
| 16:03.29 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: I AM BACK!!! |
| 16:03.34 | WrectedAngle | UPDATE_MOUSEOVER_UNIT |
| 16:03.37 | lua_bot | I'm back bitchez! |
| 16:03.37 | olafski | zenzelezz: meh, I just think it's childish that people always go "oh look bill gates lacks vision, he thought 640k would be enough forever" :< |
| 16:03.39 | MoonWitch | meh I keep on forgetting the commands :P |
| 16:03.39 | haste | no need to spam Computerpunk :P |
| 16:03.43 | Computerpunk | kk |
| 16:03.50 | olafski | I like the "Be nice to nerds, chances are you'll end up working for one" though :P |
| 16:04.10 | Computerpunk | That's why we're doing things Blizz should? |
| 16:04.16 | zenzelezz | olafski: but without that misquotation, the poor IBM guy is alone in making stupid statements like "I think there's a market for five computers in the world" (not verbatim, I believe) |
| 16:04.25 | olafski | oh, which also wasn't said by bill gates ;P |
| 16:04.36 | cbreak | 640k ought to be enough for everyone |
| 16:04.43 | MoonWitch | hand feeling a bit better haste? |
| 16:04.46 | olafski | zenzelezz: but perhaps he only meant "a market right now for five computers" :) |
| 16:05.04 | WrectedAngle | I used to write on a computer with 32K of RAM - that was crazy |
| 16:05.25 | zenzelezz | olafski: and again, details never stop people from taking quotes out of context :-) |
| 16:06.12 | olafski | true enough :P |
| 16:06.15 | haste | MoonWitch: I tend to try not to use it :P |
| 16:06.41 | haste | I've had enough "this doesn't hurt at all! oh wait, it totally does"-experiences so far ^^ |
| 16:06.55 | MoonWitch | I can understand that much |
| 16:07.35 | p3lim | any of you know of a program for linux that works like OSX's Dashboard? |
| 16:07.42 | MoonWitch | no, sorry |
| 16:07.54 | haste | what does dashboard do? |
| 16:08.02 | cbreak | it's a widget manager |
| 16:08.02 | p3lim | widget overlay |
| 16:08.14 | haste | so it's like KDE's plasma? |
| 16:08.15 | cbreak | you can put in useless widgets like weather report, tock market or so |
| 16:08.27 | cbreak | I think microsoft copied the idea in win7 |
| 16:08.31 | cbreak | with that thing on the right |
| 16:08.39 | cbreak | sidebar thing? don't know the name |
| 16:08.44 | p3lim | just need something to display stuff like battery and wifi, I really dont want a panel for those things |
| 16:08.47 | MoonWitch | oh -- I thought Dashboard was the rocketdock like thing >.< |
| 16:08.56 | haste | p3lim: you can use conky for that |
| 16:08.58 | MoonWitch | Karamba does it if I recall correct |
| 16:09.00 | p3lim | no, youre wrong.. |
| 16:09.07 | p3lim | not a sidebar, and not a dock |
| 16:09.07 | haste | there's plasma for KDE |
| 16:09.14 | haste | and uhm... gdesklets or so for gnome |
| 16:09.14 | MoonWitch | < stands corrected |
| 16:09.45 | MoonWitch | it's been a while for my using those appz |
| 16:09.46 | haste | screenlets, gdesklets and adesklets are some |
| 16:09.48 | p3lim | ive tried installing gdesklets and screenlets, but I couldnt get it to work |
| 16:10.07 | haste | did you try reading about how they work? |
| 16:10.17 | p3lim | yeah I read a shitload of docs |
| 16:10.24 | p3lim | and wikis |
| 16:10.36 | haste | apparantly not the correct ones! |
| 16:10.49 | haste | both of those should be pretty easy to set-up |
| 16:10.54 | p3lim | compiz integration of screenlets, none of the options worked at all |
| 16:12.14 | WrectedAngle | it worked! |
| 16:12.21 | WrectedAngle | tyvm |
| 16:12.28 | WrectedAngle | not sure what I did wrong last time |
| 16:12.36 | WrectedAngle | probably the wrong event |
| 16:12.47 | p3lim | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=islUMYMH3QE |
| 16:13.44 | MoonWitch | ok I just cant watch a movie about a 15yo girls life down the drain into prostitution while I can hear children in the next room ... |
| 16:13.49 | MoonWitch | I'm going for a smoke |
| 16:14.17 | WrectedAngle_DnD | I'll bbl |
| 16:14.40 | WrectedAngle_DnD | ty again, much appreciated =) |
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| 16:14.46 | sade | crap |
| 16:17.31 | Thunder_Child | I KNOW |
| 16:17.37 | Thunder_Child | Cide's back |
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| 16:19.34 | sade | now i cant ask my question |
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| 16:22.57 | Kraps | lets talk about prop 8 |
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| 16:23.20 | Thunder_Child | lets not |
| 16:23.56 | Kraps | hater |
| 16:26.19 | sade | could someone look at one line of my code and tell me if there is something wrong with it... |
| 16:26.32 | olafski | post it already :P |
| 16:26.36 | sade | if button == "LeftButton" and isShiftKeyDown == 1 and not self.isMoving then |
| 16:27.00 | sade | isShiftKeyDown is fucking it up... and i forgot parentheses |
| 16:27.22 | Baps | =) |
| 16:28.10 | sade | hmm, still doesnt work |
| 16:28.15 | olafski | for one, I think you can leave the "== 1" out (unless it has other values than 1 which you want to consider false) |
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| 16:28.58 | Salacryl | hi |
| 16:29.03 | sade | ok |
| 16:29.38 | Salacryl | can anybody explain me how to set up a Frame with a titlebar? |
| 16:29.50 | sade | wowprogramming.com |
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| 16:30.25 | sade | they are busy helping me right now |
| 16:30.38 | olafski | not anymore |
| 16:31.08 | sade | damn |
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| 16:31.53 | Salacryl | wowprogramming isn't that helpful, because no further information about CreateTitleRegion or <Titleregion /> |
| 16:32.19 | sade | one sec dog |
| 16:33.03 | Baps | it's not a showstopper, it's just an annoyance |
| 16:33.05 | Baps | ww |
| 16:33.34 | amro | Salacryl: are you sure that's what you're looking for? |
| 16:33.47 | amro | that's for making an area of a frame clickable for dragging |
| 16:33.51 | Salacryl | amro: no |
| 16:34.01 | amro | do you want to add title text/ |
| 16:34.05 | Salacryl | amro: I was afraid of |
| 16:34.20 | amro | it which shall not be named? |
| 16:34.42 | Salacryl | amro: It is just the property title? |
| 16:34.43 | Kraps | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/10/5a1095eb43ee71a3266982edccfec9c4/original.jpg |
| 16:35.02 | amro | I don't know what you mean |
| 16:35.05 | amro | explain what you're trying to do |
| 16:35.34 | amro | Kraps: notice how the comments on kotaku are the best part of most articles |
| 16:35.42 | Salacryl | amro: ok, almost every frame in wow has a Titlebar (with titlename) and the close button |
| 16:36.21 | Salacryl | amro: is the a simple template I can use? |
| 16:36.27 | Salacryl | there |
| 16:36.44 | amro | I don't know, I don't do much GUI stuff, but you can look at the source for the frame you're trying to emulate |
| 16:36.48 | amro | ~framexml |
| 16:36.48 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 16:38.02 | Kraps | amro: QQ about how 2 crossbows are bad because of recoil and how do they reload and its dumb, is stupid |
| 16:38.23 | amro | Kraps: it's also entertaining to read |
| 16:38.33 | amro | and that picture is funny because of the irony |
| 16:40.02 | amro | might as well complain about the boob armor |
| 16:40.26 | p3lim | yay, got it working :> |
| 16:40.36 | amro | p3lim: tooltips? |
| 16:40.48 | p3lim | widgets |
| 16:42.20 | Kraps | WHY DONT MAGES GET BACKBLAST WHEN FIRING ARCANE MISSILES HUH? |
| 16:43.23 | foxlit | Kraps: the image doesn't get it, imo |
| 16:43.34 | foxlit | You don't reload double crossbows |
| 16:43.44 | foxlit | You throw them away and get new ones from the backpack every time |
| 16:44.04 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 16:44.08 | Kraps | hurr :p |
| 16:44.19 | nevcairiel | matrix style, just pack weapons instead of ammo |
| 16:44.53 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: missle != rocket |
| 16:45.17 | Thunder_Child | missile* |
| 16:46.17 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: hey i'm trying to find RL logic in fantasy attacks, stop that! |
| 16:46.41 | nevcairiel | just wait until we invent magic, anything will be possible then! |
| 16:46.44 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: my bad |
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| 16:48.17 | Kraps | this is great http://g4tv.com/images/3797/BlizzCon-2010---Cosplay-Girls-and-Warcraft-Boys-at-BlizzCon-2010/63498/ |
| 16:48.56 | Salacryl | Ah I see: I have to define it be myself |
| 16:49.33 | A-KO | http://g4tv.com/images/3797/BlizzCon-2010---Cosplay-Girls-and-Warcraft-Boys-at-BlizzCon-2010/63498/ < hello wardrobe malfunction? :/ |
| 16:49.50 | sade | how did you do it salacryl? |
| 16:50.06 | Salacryl | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/QuestLogFrame.xml |
| 16:50.16 | sade | thanks |
| 16:51.02 | Kraps | many jainas were hot as well |
| 16:52.30 | MoonWitch|Mobile | quick non wow question: I've been asked to make a comprehensive list of all my computerskills... Would you make such a list in your native language or English (the latter would make it easier for me to be honest) |
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| 16:53.19 | WrectedAngle_DnD | is there an easy way to change the case of a string from caps to lowers? |
| 16:54.24 | Thrae | ~pil |
| 16:54.24 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 16:54.35 | sade | toUpper? |
| 16:54.37 | Thrae | string.lower is your answer |
| 16:54.57 | sade | blah |
| 16:55.13 | WrectedAngle_DnD | ty |
| 16:55.25 | Thrae | PIL covers that and should be read...it has a HTML version where you can jump around. It's mostly for reference and doesn't go into tons of examples, worksheets, etc. |
| 16:55.39 | WrectedAngle_DnD | do you have link? |
| 16:55.53 | MoonWitch|Mobile | it's in what purl said |
| 16:56.00 | Thrae | 12:49 < purl> Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 16:56.08 | WrectedAngle_DnD | heh |
| 16:56.10 | WrectedAngle_DnD | sorry |
| 16:56.12 | sade | lua.org/pil |
| 16:57.39 | Kraps | Will I be able to get my warglaives (and other legendaries) in Cataclysm? Yep, everything except Atiesh. Because teleporting to Karazhan is important at 85. |
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| 16:57.58 | amro | Kraps: yes, it is! |
| 16:57.58 | Kraps | so much dev hate :p |
| 16:58.01 | amro | attumen :P |
| 16:58.31 | Fargos | why does /script for i=1,5 do for j=1,5 do for k=1,2 do CompactRaidGroup..i..Member..j..Buff..k:Hide()end;end;end not work? |
| 16:58.55 | amro | because the syntax is all broken |
| 16:59.19 | amro | _G["CompactRaidGroup" .. i .. Member .. j .. Buff .. k"]:Hide() is wat you want |
| 16:59.29 | amro | er, without that last quote |
| 17:00.52 | Fargos | ah thanks; and with " " around member/buff i suppose |
| 17:00.53 | Kraps | canada make assassins creed |
| 17:01.10 | Kraps | i guess they're useful sometimes |
| 17:02.32 | cbreak | Kraps: blizzard hates mages |
| 17:02.39 | amro | Fargos: yeah, if they're strings |
| 17:02.43 | cbreak | we're probably one of the few classes without a legendary |
| 17:02.43 | amro | cbreak: nou |
| 17:02.51 | amro | because we ARE legendary |
| 17:02.55 | amro | =) |
| 17:02.58 | cbreak | good point. |
| 17:03.05 | Kraps | your staff is coming... |
| 17:03.21 | cbreak | wonder if it'll look like a level 10 item |
| 17:03.22 | Fargos | is this stuff with _G new; that you have to use it and it doesn't work without? (sry if that's a dumb question) |
| 17:03.45 | cbreak | Fargos: you can do without... if you know the field name ahead |
| 17:03.54 | amro | Fargos: _G is the table containing all globals |
| 17:04.04 | amro | if you're building the global's name dynamically, you need to use _G |
| 17:04.05 | cbreak | if you want to compose it programmatically, you need to use that syntax |
| 17:04.19 | amro | what cbreak said. |
| 17:04.21 | cbreak | amro said if first. |
| 17:04.59 | amro | also because we don't do this often enough |
| 17:05.00 | amro | ~pil |
| 17:05.01 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 17:05.07 | amro | ~factinfo pil |
| 17:05.07 | purl | pil -- created by MentalPower|Busy <n=chatzill@host-70-45-82-211.onelinkpr.net> at Sat Dec 9 21:24:46 2006 (1414 days); last modified at Mon Dec 3 02:32:40 2007 by MentalPower!n=MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower; it has been requested 142 times, last by amro, 6s ago. |
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| 17:05.26 | amro | yep, not enough times |
| 17:05.43 | Fargos | ok thanks |
| 17:06.11 | WrectedAngle_DnD | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142029 Why is that causing problems? |
| 17:07.11 | cbreak | nasty |
| 17:07.14 | cbreak | why do you do that? |
| 17:07.27 | WrectedAngle_DnD | cause the text is in all caps and I want it neater |
| 17:07.32 | cbreak | I think the blizzard API exposes class names already |
| 17:07.39 | cbreak | in both API style and properly capitalized |
| 17:08.15 | WrectedAngle_DnD | the unitClass (the other return value) is the unit name of non PC toons |
| 17:08.44 | cbreak | only players have real classes |
| 17:08.44 | WrectedAngle_DnD | unless you mean a seperate command |
| 17:08.56 | cbreak | I was thinking of UnitClass |
| 17:08.57 | WrectedAngle_DnD | I feel dumb |
| 17:09.34 | WrectedAngle_DnD | I honestly thought some mobs were classed mage and stuff - but when I looked in westfall - there was only WARRIOR npcs |
| 17:09.35 | Kraps | ~cookie WrectedAngle_DnD |
| 17:10.06 | Kraps | purl: wtf |
| 17:10.16 | WrectedAngle_DnD | whats with the cookie? |
| 17:10.40 | amro | someone messed with cookie] |
| 17:10.44 | amro | ~factinfo cookie |
| 17:10.44 | purl | cookie -- last modified at Sun Jan 7 12:52:39 2007 by amro!n=amro@82.101.184.154; it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 17:10.51 | amro | ~cmdinfo cookie |
| 17:10.51 | purl | command usage includes 1324 of Factoid Commands, 198 of Help, 104 of Maths, 37 of Factoid Search, 34 of Weather, 32 of Tell, 29 of Factoid Info, 25 of wikipedia, 20 of babelfish, 18 of Dict, 15 of wtf, 14 of BZFlag, 13 of nickometer, 9 of botmail, 7 of scramble, 4 of piglatin, 3 of Debian Search, 3 of dns, 3 of Topic, 3 of Kernel, 2 of Uptime, 1 of Debian Statistics, 1 of Debian Bugs, 1 of Factoid Stats, ... |
| 17:10.56 | amro | screw it |
| 17:11.15 | amro | NPCs do have classes, it's just either Warrior or Paladin I think |
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| 17:11.27 | WrectedAngle_DnD | k |
| 17:11.32 | amro | (paladin if they have mana) |
| 17:11.38 | WrectedAngle_DnD | can I make it neater though |
| 17:11.49 | WrectedAngle_DnD | why does that above pop an error? |
| 17:12.31 | amro | it helps if you tell us the error |
| 17:12.48 | WrectedAngle_DnD | hmm - it don't stay on the screen long enough to read it |
| 17:13.21 | amro | that's not right |
| 17:13.49 | WrectedAngle_DnD | I'll disable all the other mods - maybe something is screwing with it |
| 17:14.41 | WrectedAngle_DnD | ok - well it stays on the screen - but with nothing in stack and nothing in locals |
| 17:14.50 | WrectedAngle_DnD | just an empty error frame |
| 17:16.52 | sade | woot - isShiftKeyDown() should have been IsShiftKeyDown... |
| 17:17.26 | Kraps | why do the chicks in diablo have british accents? |
| 17:18.08 | amro | Kraps: because it's more sexy |
| 17:18.22 | sade | why not french then? |
| 17:18.30 | amro | because french is not sexy |
| 17:18.32 | sade | french is way hotter |
| 17:18.34 | WrectedAngle_DnD | I comment it out - it does the same - must be something else |
| 17:18.38 | Kraps | its practically a trope in fantasy |
| 17:18.40 | amro | no, french girls are generally sluttier |
| 17:18.56 | sade | and have better accent imo |
| 17:19.16 | sade | but they are sluttier too |
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| 17:19.38 | sade | paste all your code |
| 17:19.45 | sade | wrected |
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| 17:23.04 | Kraps | "I'm also wondering why people are getting stuck on little things like "how does she reload" and "where did those crossbows come from", when a single arrow is clearly shown splitting into half a dozen identical arrows upon firing. It's magic, so get over it." |
| 17:23.15 | Kraps | well sir, hmph |
| 17:23.59 | WrectedAngle_DnD | it was just a variable missing a letter btw - and its fixed |
| 17:24.21 | WrectedAngle_DnD | kinda dropped a c from classification - lassification != classification |
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| 17:24.45 | amro | lassification |
| 17:24.47 | amro | I like that |
| 17:24.56 | WrectedAngle_DnD | heh |
| 17:25.08 | WrectedAngle_DnD | well have you ever seen the laughter in slaughter |
| 17:25.22 | amro | the process by which one becomes a creepy ghoulish detective |
| 17:26.24 | amro | could have been assification |
| 17:26.28 | WrectedAngle_DnD | lol |
| 17:26.37 | amro | also, you'll want to figure out why that error didn't stick around and solve it |
| 17:26.41 | amro | else you won't be able to work |
| 17:27.03 | WrectedAngle_DnD | some other addon - probably got an out of date buggrabber |
| 17:27.50 | WrectedAngle_DnD | I would use curse client - but I don't like flash script on my PC and it keeps trying to install that |
| 17:29.16 | WrectedAngle | what would be easier - resizing the default tooltip - or making my own and anchoring them together |
| 17:30.02 | Kraps | wonders if a truck hit husky in the face |
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| 17:30.17 | WrectedAngle | I think I'm going to go with making my own - sounds more edukayshionel |
| 17:30.21 | sade | sounds like making your own and anchor together, but not sure |
| 17:34.35 | WrectedAngle | is GUID unique to units per spawn, per individual, or per mob ID(like are all rabbits the same GUID) |
| 17:35.14 | nevcairiel | per spawn |
| 17:35.18 | nevcairiel | every single mob has its own GUID |
| 17:35.27 | WrectedAngle | k |
| 17:35.45 | nevcairiel | and, it of course changes when you kill one and it respawns |
| 17:35.49 | WrectedAngle | I guess players get one too - but it may change per login, or even per zoning |
| 17:35.57 | nevcairiel | players have a static guid |
| 17:36.01 | WrectedAngle | ok |
| 17:36.03 | WrectedAngle | ty |
| 17:37.29 | amro | it's so funny when you join a HH group and everyone is afraid to mouseover the pumpkin |
| 17:37.57 | nevcairiel | There is this macro that disables the tooltip and stops the breakage |
| 17:38.12 | amro | yeah I know, it's awesome |
| 17:38.28 | amro | especially since because of an nvidia bug, killing wow crashes X altogether >< |
| 17:38.33 | nevcairiel | i hope they fixed the issue and put out a patch this week |
| 17:39.06 | nevcairiel | along with maybe some other problems :p |
| 17:39.10 | WrectedAngle | with |cxxxxxxxx is it RGBA or ARGB? |
| 17:39.54 | nevcairiel | ARGB, iirc |
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| 17:42.46 | WrectedAngle | it is |
| 17:43.14 | amro | unless you're coloring gear, in which case it's GARB |
| 17:43.50 | Maldivia | and for coloring things that are tricky, it's ARGG ? |
| 17:44.13 | amro | =) |
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| 17:57.00 | Maldivia | looking at the D3 arena videos... looks like fun! |
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| 17:58.11 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5671997/meet-the-new-marty-mcfly-sounds-like-the-old-marty-mcfly |
| 18:04.36 | sade | Can addon "A" be used to Show and Hide Frames of addon "B" |
| 18:04.42 | Kraps | whoa meta http://tv.gawker.com/5671082/south-park-creator-admits-to-plagiarizing-college-humors-inception-parody |
| 18:04.47 | Maldivia | sade: yes |
| 18:05.12 | Maldivia | sade: A just needs to know where to find references to the frames of B |
| 18:06.09 | sade | so i cant just write code in addon "A" -- frameInAddonB:Show() |
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| 18:06.20 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 18:06.33 | Maldivia | but you might want to check that the B addon is actually present and loaded |
| 18:06.34 | nevcairiel | sure, as long as addon B doesnt start hiding it again :p |
| 18:06.39 | amro | it must be a global and it must be already defined when your other addon is run |
| 18:06.57 | amro | addons don't have special scope, it's just file scope |
| 18:07.23 | cbreak | local on file scope are file scope |
| 18:07.29 | cbreak | without specifier it's global |
| 18:07.36 | cbreak | special exceptions for blizzards secure crap |
| 18:07.43 | sade | ok |
| 18:08.10 | cbreak | you can muck around with the globals of all other addons as much as you want |
| 18:08.22 | nevcairiel | until you break it :) |
| 18:08.39 | sade | im trying to mod FaceShooter to Hide and Show frames that will be button overlays - Basically light up the button that faceshooter recomends |
| 18:09.08 | sade | and ive never written an addon before in my life :D |
| 18:09.14 | cbreak | sounds like made for noobs |
| 18:09.34 | cbreak | don't try to show or hide things with secure templates in them |
| 18:09.37 | cbreak | that won't work |
| 18:09.44 | cbreak | if it's just an overlay it might |
| 18:09.51 | sade | its just overlay |
| 18:10.00 | sade | so it should be fine i think |
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| 18:25.24 | sade | nice. it works |
| 18:26.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | is it even possible to work in git and mercurial with the same project? |
| 18:26.35 | jnwhiteh | I dont see why not |
| 18:26.57 | MoonWitch|Mobile | << is writing a list of shit I know/can do with computers for some asshole who wanted to know it all |
| 18:26.59 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lol |
| 18:27.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and while looking over things, I wondered about Hg too |
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| 18:27.42 | olafski | you mean you're making a C.V.? |
| 18:28.08 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no not quite. My CV is all done in 3 languages.. He wanted me to elaborate on everything |
| 18:28.20 | olafski | oO |
| 18:28.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | aka list which OSes I can install, how I install them, how i set up networks etc |
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| 18:28.47 | Cide | sounds like a crazy person I wouldn't want to get hired by |
| 18:29.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | when I list Win 2k Pro, XP, Vista and 7 as being well known OSes, I don't mean I only used them to click on shit |
| 18:29.08 | MoonWitch|Mobile | but he wanted the specifics |
| 18:29.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Cide I actually agree .. but he's a headhunter for a bigger IT jobpool :( |
| 18:29.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so I can't dismiss his request |
| 18:29.42 | olafski | why the hell would he need to know all that kind of stuff |
| 18:29.49 | olafski | if you say you can do it, he could just take you at your word >_< |
| 18:29.50 | MoonWitch|Mobile | however I am contemplating typing it all out in English |
| 18:30.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | he wants it typed out because - from what I could read between the lines on the phone - he feels that *I* as non0-degree and/or female can't possibly know anything about a computer |
| 18:31.00 | MoonWitch|Mobile | he spoke to me with a lot of disdain and was condescending, not letting me finish a sentence etc. Things I generally don't take too kindly |
| 18:31.17 | olafski | yet you're jumping through hoops |
| 18:31.22 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yep |
| 18:31.32 | olafski | I guess it's better than not having a job =) |
| 18:31.32 | MoonWitch|Mobile | because I want a job again, in fact I need one bad |
| 18:31.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I've got over 800EUR a month to cough up, without a job, it's hard to do :) |
| 18:32.22 | olafski | I can imagine |
| 18:32.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and that's not counting the expenses for an entire new wardrobe, cuz my current one falls off (literally my pants fall off) |
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| 18:32.36 | olafski | eat more! :) |
| 18:32.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I can't :P |
| 18:32.53 | MoonWitch|Mobile | 200ml is all I can eat at once :) |
| 18:32.55 | olafski | eat fatter then :P |
| 18:33.02 | olafski | 200ml is.. not very much |
| 18:33.03 | MoonWitch|Mobile | then it comes back out |
| 18:33.08 | olafski | why's that? |
| 18:33.11 | MoonWitch|Mobile | had surgery (gastric bypass) |
| 18:33.30 | olafski | I'll have to look that up.. something with your stomach I assume |
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| 18:33.33 | MoonWitch|Mobile | cant eat sweet (sugars), fatty, white bread, very spicy, ... |
| 18:33.43 | Flowy | empty table returns true ... |
| 18:33.50 | Flowy | how to do it to get false? |
| 18:33.55 | olafski | hey I can't eat any of those either |
| 18:34.08 | Flowy | > t={} return t |
| 18:34.11 | olafski | flowy: anything except nil and false will return true |
| 18:34.24 | MoonWitch|Mobile | they basically took my stomach, made a pouch of 200ml (size of a thumb or so), circumvented 1m of intestines and sowed it back up :) |
| 18:34.31 | Flowy | ok now how to do it to get false ... |
| 18:34.42 | olafski | moonwitch|mobile: why :O |
| 18:34.46 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and that little surgery made me lose 40kg in 4 months |
| 18:34.51 | olafski | they also told me not to have alcohol, caffein and some other stuff |
| 18:35.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | caffeine isn't an issue, it's actually the easiest to drink |
| 18:35.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | alco I cant have either |
| 18:35.18 | Cide | Flowy: you read for fucking god's sake |
| 18:35.24 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 18:35.46 | MoonWitch|Mobile | olafski: because I was at the point I could drop dead from being morbidly obese |
| 18:35.51 | olafski | oh :( |
| 18:35.57 | olafski | well good for you on losing 40kg then! |
| 18:36.02 | olafski | will they take out the bypass at any point? |
| 18:36.16 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no, it's permanent |
| 18:36.26 | olafski | oO |
| 18:36.27 | Flowy | 0 is true or false? |
| 18:36.34 | Cide | read |
| 18:36.36 | Cide | the fucking |
| 18:36.37 | Cide | page |
| 18:36.38 | Cide | I linked |
| 18:36.41 | Cide | you idiot |
| 18:36.50 | Cide | I'm so happy that cairenn is at blizzcon. |
| 18:36.58 | olafski | not to mention you could just have tried it instead of asked |
| 18:37.18 | Flowy | who is cairenn? |
| 18:37.19 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Cide, you are now officially one of my favorites in the chan |
| 18:37.25 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Cairenn is god around here |
| 18:37.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | she's the boss |
| 18:37.38 | Cide | except when she's not here |
| 18:37.41 | Cide | then I'm the god |
| 18:37.43 | MoonWitch|Mobile | true |
| 18:37.53 | Flowy | Cide you are in favorite list of MoonWitch|Mobile ... under cairenn |
| 18:37.54 | Maldivia | more like a fallen god :) |
| 18:38.07 | Cide | ^ |
| 18:38.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | oh yes jnwhiteh ... if you get a pm from some dude asking if you know the guy who wrote wowprogramming, say no :P |
| 18:38.19 | Cide | Flowy: well, she always does want to be on top |
| 18:38.28 | Maldivia | lol |
| 18:38.32 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 18:38.37 | jnwhiteh | MoonWitch|Mobile: lolwut? |
| 18:39.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | last night, some dude came in about the book with a tun of questions |
| 18:39.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I jokingly said to ask you cuz you know the guy who wrote it :P |
| 18:39.24 | Cide | sounds like Flowy but for a different purpose |
| 18:39.33 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 18:39.42 | jnwhiteh | well the book makes it clear how someone can ask me questions =) |
| 18:39.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | he was looking for a link to download the book without the purchase because he had not received money |
| 18:39.57 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so I toyed a bit |
| 18:40.09 | sade | it was me |
| 18:40.11 | sade | mooon |
| 18:40.16 | sade | but thanks |
| 18:40.24 | olafski | ouch |
| 18:40.27 | Maldivia | lol |
| 18:40.32 | MoonWitch|Mobile | now you can ask jnwhiteh if he knows the guy :) |
| 18:40.35 | Flowy | toyed is something from "ToyToy"(the toilet" ? |
| 18:40.45 | sade | james whitehead? |
| 18:40.52 | sade | yeah, hes the author |
| 18:40.54 | jnwhiteh | he's a douchebag. |
| 18:40.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | toyed as in an invented verb (I think) |
| 18:41.02 | Cide | I hate whitehead |
| 18:41.06 | olafski | nah I think toy is a verb |
| 18:41.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ok |
| 18:41.13 | Cide | he made this ignorant addon |
| 18:41.14 | MoonWitch|Mobile | wasn't sure about that one |
| 18:41.15 | Cide | thinking he's perfect |
| 18:41.33 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I think Cairenn is going to ban me when she hears abut all this >.< |
| 18:41.34 | olafski | silly belgians |
| 18:41.45 | olafski | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/toy |
| 18:42.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | wow you're one of the first to know it's Belgians... and not belgiums |
| 18:42.06 | Flowy | Cide which addon? |
| 18:42.06 | olafski | :P |
| 18:42.38 | sade | im gonna buy the book btw |
| 18:42.41 | sade | so dont hate me |
| 18:42.47 | Cide | that's irrelevant |
| 18:42.50 | Cide | just read the page |
| 18:43.25 | Flowy | ~pil |
| 18:43.26 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 18:43.29 | jnwhiteh | Cide: stop trolling =) |
| 18:44.12 | olafski | moonwitch|mobile: the company I work for has a belgian branch :) |
| 18:44.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | really? |
| 18:44.37 | MoonWitch|Mobile | May I ask which comp? |
| 18:44.48 | MoonWitch|Mobile | (pm is fine for that answer if you're willing) |
| 18:45.20 | olafski | PM'd, though if someone wanted to know they could probably find out with google ;) |
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| 18:53.53 | WrectedAngle | do I need to convert int to string? |
| 18:54.11 | olafski | umm.. |
| 18:54.14 | sade | lol |
| 18:54.15 | olafski | do I need to turn right here? |
| 18:54.18 | WrectedAngle | ie. with tables |
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| 18:54.33 | WrectedAngle | sorry its late here |
| 18:55.07 | WrectedAngle | can I store integers in tables |
| 18:55.14 | Thaoky | yes |
| 18:55.21 | WrectedAngle | ty |
| 18:55.37 | WrectedAngle | thinks he must still be drunk |
| 18:55.46 | Thaoky | a table element can be any type (even another table) |
| 18:56.04 | sade | doesnt the value itself specify type? |
| 18:56.07 | WrectedAngle | I've got an error that says string expected but got nil or something... |
| 18:56.12 | Thaoky | sade: yes it does |
| 18:56.12 | sade | thats how i understand it |
| 18:56.37 | WrectedAngle | trying to tackle save variables atm |
| 18:56.57 | amro | you passed a nil to a function instead of a string |
| 18:57.05 | amro | exactly what the error says >< |
| 18:57.40 | amro | don't drink and code |
| 18:57.45 | amro | the ballmer peak is a myth |
| 18:57.58 | WrectedAngle | its been hours since I last guzzled |
| 18:58.05 | amro | not enough hours apparently |
| 18:58.11 | WrectedAngle | its 6 AM |
| 18:58.26 | amro | go to bed? |
| 19:00.27 | WrectedAngle | if I tried doing this at a sane time - like between 4PM and midnight - everyone here would be in bed - its only sane |
| 19:01.55 | amro | things have been quiet recently as a lot of people are at blizzcon |
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| 19:02.14 | Angayelle | hai people |
| 19:02.20 | Flowy | Cide where in pil is anything about how to get nil from table? |
| 19:02.49 | amro | pil explains how tables work and lets you figure it out |
| 19:03.37 | WrectedAngle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142035 |
| 19:03.52 | WrectedAngle | if anyone has time - please explain why it don't work with that error |
| 19:05.00 | WrectedAngle | bleargh I see errors in that already - let me fix them |
| 19:05.13 | Angayelle | i saw some too ehe |
| 19:05.43 | WrectedAngle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/142036 |
| 19:06.40 | amro | dude no |
| 19:06.42 | WrectedAngle | the error is that expecting string got nil |
| 19:06.49 | Angayelle | easymenu dropdown is not that easy btw at least when trying to use xml with it (and i know it's bad) |
| 19:07.00 | Angayelle | what is the complete error |
| 19:07.03 | amro | for starters, without a line number that means nothing |
| 19:07.13 | WrectedAngle | err do I paste it or something? |
| 19:07.32 | WrectedAngle | the line number is the function and the call |
| 19:07.50 | WrectedAngle | ie. 75 and 8 |
| 19:08.44 | Angayelle | isnt a color code used like |cff7f7f7f "insert stuff here" |r ? |
| 19:08.59 | amro | there's a lot wrong there, and a lot of it unrelated to wowlua |
| 19:09.18 | WrectedAngle | lol |
| 19:10.04 | WrectedAngle | err - it was line 70 and 8 not 75 |
| 19:10.42 | Angayelle | i'm surprised you didn't get error before that line |
| 19:10.59 | amro | that tells me you're still drunk |
| 19:11.04 | amro | englishClass is nil clearly |
| 19:11.45 | WrectedAngle | please don't hit me |
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| 19:13.51 | amro | I won't hit you, but I'll say that you still need to learn programming |
| 19:13.53 | amro | that was pretty basic |
| 19:14.12 | zenzelezz | "Bottom line: make sure you don't need a gorilla to pull the payload release handle at balloon launch" |
| 19:14.47 | amro | I keep a gorilla handler on retainer at all times, just in case |
| 19:17.37 | Flowy | can anyone explain me a pairs "function" ? |
| 19:17.53 | Angayelle | there shouldn't be any particular problem using easymenu for dropdown with xml or ? |
| 19:20.22 | Flowy | if x is a function ... how to see the code of this? |
| 19:20.37 | Thunder_Child | amro: helps if you also have a gorilla |
| 19:21.55 | sade | i dont know, maybe print(x) ? just a guess |
| 19:22.20 | Flowy | it shows what is x indexing |
| 19:22.33 | Flowy | its function: 0x.... |
| 19:22.37 | amro | lua> type(print) |
| 19:22.37 | lua_bot | amro: function |
| 19:22.47 | amro | why aren't you googling these questions? |
| 19:23.36 | Flowy | there is many languages |
| 19:23.41 | Flowy | I want it for lua |
| 19:24.04 | amro | then add lua to your query |
| 19:26.23 | Flowy | google sucks ... |
| 19:26.32 | olafski | ehh |
| 19:26.37 | Flowy | it found lua+function |
| 19:26.40 | amro | you suck at googling |
| 19:26.47 | Flowy | while the querry was how to see the code of function in lua |
| 19:26.59 | sade | look at the source? |
| 19:26.59 | olafski | I've found that googling takes a little bit of skill, but if you know how to do it you can usually find whatever you need with google |
| 19:27.34 | Thaoky | Flowy: what exactly do you want to know ? |
| 19:28.04 | Flowy | how to get a code of function stored (indexed) in variable |
| 19:28.08 | Flowy | by variable |
| 19:28.27 | amro | the source code? |
| 19:28.29 | sade | look at the source code |
| 19:28.34 | Thaoky | local x = function(a,b,c) .. do stuff ... end |
| 19:28.35 | amro | there is no reason to want to do that unless you're debugging |
| 19:28.49 | Thaoky | x contains a pointer to an unnamed function |
| 19:29.02 | Thaoky | then call by doing x ( a, b, c) |
| 19:29.21 | nevcairiel | functions are first-class variables in Lua, i wouldn't call anything a "named" function |
| 19:29.28 | Flowy | ok what is source code of this |
| 19:29.30 | Flowy | lua> t={ this = "string" }; return (pairs(t)) |
| 19:29.30 | lua_bot | Flowy: function: 0x93c19e8 |
| 19:29.50 | olafski | t={ this = "string" }; return (pairs(t)) |
| 19:30.10 | Flowy | I mean the return |
| 19:30.14 | Flowy | the function ... |
| 19:30.26 | amro | the problem is that you have no clue how pairs() works |
| 19:30.31 | nevcairiel | pairs returns a iterator function, but why do you care? |
| 19:30.31 | olafski | you want the source code of pairs()? |
| 19:30.37 | Flowy | amro you are right |
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| 19:30.46 | amro | look up pairs in the manual and pil |
| 19:30.51 | sade | lol |
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| 19:32.54 | Flowy | amro where to find functions list in pil? |
| 19:33.16 | Flowy | ~manual |
| 19:33.16 | purl | methinks manual is at http://www.ibot.org/guide-0.43.x.html, or there is no manual, ibot.org is gone, read the source. |
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| 19:33.43 | amro | the manual has a reference |
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| 19:33.49 | amro | if you'd ever bothered reading the manual you'd know |
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| 19:34.06 | amro | I'm not answering any more questions until you bother putting more effort into this |
| 19:34.17 | nevcairiel | but effort takes effort! |
| 19:34.24 | olafski | http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=lua+pairs |
| 19:34.42 | foxlit | nevcairiel: nerf effort! |
| 19:34.54 | nevcairiel | fwiw, pairs is pretty useless outside of for loops |
| 19:35.19 | nevcairiel | (and even in for loops you could do without, if you know how for-each loops work in Lua) |
| 19:35.54 | Flowy | nevcairiel even if you dont have array table? |
| 19:35.59 | nevcairiel | function pairs(table) return next, table end |
| 19:36.03 | nevcairiel | i wrote a new pairs |
| 19:36.05 | nevcairiel | I'm god! |
| 19:36.05 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:36.29 | olafski | that looks magical :O |
| 19:36.55 | nevcairiel | lua> t = {1,2,3}; for key, value in next, t do print(value) end |
| 19:36.56 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 1, 2, 3 |
| 19:37.00 | nevcairiel | works just fine, though ^ |
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| 19:37.49 | Flowy | lua> t = {a=1,b=2,c=3}; for key, value in next, t do print(value) end |
| 19:37.50 | lua_bot | Flowy: 1, 3, 2 |
| 19:38.00 | Ackis | while(1) loops > pairs loops |
| 19:38.03 | Cide | read the fucking book dude |
| 19:38.06 | Cide | can we ban him? |
| 19:38.15 | nevcairiel | no, we don't have ops :( |
| 19:38.16 | Flowy | no |
| 19:38.29 | Thunder_Child | well you *can* get banned |
| 19:38.30 | Humbedooh | :| |
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| 19:38.46 | nevcairiel | but seriously, read the damn book |
| 19:38.49 | nevcairiel | its all explained in there |
| 19:38.50 | Flowy | for name or ip? |
| 19:38.56 | Thunder_Child | both |
| 19:39.04 | nevcairiel | We have this new tech, it allows us to ban faces |
| 19:39.11 | Thunder_Child | you can be ban multiple ways |
| 19:39.12 | amro | ~nevcairiel++ |
| 19:39.31 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: still waiting on the "stab people via tcp/ip" |
| 19:39.38 | nevcairiel | isnt that in ipv6 |
| 19:39.43 | Thunder_Child | no :( |
| 19:39.46 | nevcairiel | boo |
| 19:39.46 | Flowy | Thunder_Child banning for name AND ip is not a good solution |
| 19:39.48 | amro | no, or it would have seen faster adoption |
| 19:39.48 | nevcairiel | whats it good for then |
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| 19:39.59 | Thunder_Child | more ip's |
| 19:40.05 | amro | Flowy: why do you care either way? |
| 19:40.10 | zenzelezz | Flowy: you should be less concerned with the details of a ban, and more concerned about the reason why one would be banned |
| 19:40.27 | amro | that^ |
| 19:40.39 | Flowy | the manual link in pil was not highlighted ... |
| 19:40.45 | Cide | eat shit and die |
| 19:40.46 | MoonWitch|Mobile | google it then :P |
| 19:41.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | isn't jnwhiteh here? |
| 19:41.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | he did talk to me briefly earlier |
| 19:41.17 | nevcairiel | Many of us actually wrote alot of content on wowpedia and/or wowprogramming, so, take the resources that we (and others, in case of PiL) spent time on creating, and don't ask us every damn question :p |
| 19:41.23 | Thunder_Child | Cide: you are so bitter |
| 19:41.23 | Cide | he's not prone to banning |
| 19:41.26 | Cide | we need me opped |
| 19:41.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lol |
| 19:41.42 | MoonWitch|Mobile | empty chan |
| 19:41.44 | Kraps | can too many bananas have an adverse affect on your health? |
| 19:41.49 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no |
| 19:41.52 | Thunder_Child | please tell me you are an old old man |
| 19:41.52 | Humbedooh | yes |
| 19:41.56 | nevcairiel | Kraps: everything in "too much" can be bad :p |
| 19:42.04 | Flowy | nevcairiel the page pairs on wowwiki tells nothing |
| 19:42.05 | Cide | I'm not bitter |
| 19:42.05 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 19:42.05 | Cide | and I'm 21 |
| 19:42.10 | Humbedooh | nevcairiel: except pie |
| 19:42.16 | nevcairiel | You |
| 19:42.16 | Thunder_Child | lies Cide |
| 19:42.20 | Flowy | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_pairs |
| 19:42.20 | zenzelezz | Cide is only 21? |
| 19:42.23 | nevcairiel | You'll feel bad after eating too much pie |
| 19:42.25 | Flowy | just how to use it in for |
| 19:42.44 | nevcairiel | Thats all what pairs is for o.O |
| 19:42.45 | Cide | yes |
| 19:42.46 | zenzelezz | Flowy: did you even read the code on that page? |
| 19:42.51 | Humbedooh | zenzelezz: hush now...let's pretend we're all young and stuff |
| 19:42.55 | Kraps | i think [03:41:52]<Thunder_Child>please tell me you are an old old man - meant me |
| 19:43.03 | Thaoky | flowy: the link you posted explains it all, if you don't get that, we can't help, really |
| 19:43.10 | nevcairiel | pairs returns an iterator, iterators are only really useful for .. drumroll .. iterating! |
| 19:43.18 | amro | omg |
| 19:43.20 | amro | no way |
| 19:43.26 | amro | reevaluates his life |
| 19:43.40 | zenzelezz | I suspect Cide is 21 in hex |
| 19:43.51 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: no. i meant cide |
| 19:43.59 | Kraps | mmk |
| 19:44.01 | Cide | I've stated my age in here several times and it's always been consistent :P |
| 19:44.04 | Humbedooh | so...33? :\ |
| 19:44.04 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: however bananas work the same on any age |
| 19:44.11 | Kraps | :D |
| 19:44.17 | Cide | I'm 21 in decimal |
| 19:44.33 | Thunder_Child | in dog years |
| 19:44.41 | Humbedooh | reverse dog years |
| 19:44.45 | Cide | do you want it in seconds? |
| 19:44.56 | amro | Cide: how do I convert years to seconds? |
| 19:45.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | *hides* |
| 19:45.13 | nevcairiel | seconds since cide-epoch! |
| 19:45.16 | Kraps | minus the root of Fisker |
| 19:45.18 | Cide | depends on the year and day you were born |
| 19:45.28 | Cide | well |
| 19:45.36 | Cide | in the specific case of converting your age to seconds |
| 19:45.56 | Thunder_Child | 6.623Ã10^8 seconds |
| 19:46.08 | Cide | otherwise it depends on the start and end of the interval defining the years to convert |
| 19:46.55 | Flowy | lua> t={ this }; return next(t) |
| 19:46.55 | lua_bot | Flowy: nil |
| 19:46.56 | Flowy | ! |
| 19:47.03 | amro | I'm a little disappointed you didn't try to stab me in the face for asking that |
| 19:47.12 | Cide | read the fucking page |
| 19:47.22 | Cide | amro: it was a perfectly sound question! |
| 19:47.33 | MoonWitch|Mobile | we could all try to pm him and have his client overload? |
| 19:47.49 | nevcairiel | we can also figure out his ip, and ddos him out of our ircs! |
| 19:47.52 | amro | Cide: also answerable by google. literally |
| 19:47.52 | Flowy | nns dont know dnd :/ |
| 19:47.53 | amro | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=12+years+in+seconds |
| 19:48.03 | Humbedooh | lua> Flowy == Stupid |
| 19:48.03 | lua_bot | Humbedooh: true |
| 19:48.08 | MoonWitch|Mobile | LOL |
| 19:48.22 | olafski | nns being nnscript? |
| 19:48.33 | Flowy | yes |
| 19:48.39 | olafski | well that explains |
| 19:48.40 | zenzelezz | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=seconds+between+7+january+1984+and+now |
| 19:48.46 | Flowy | what? |
| 19:48.47 | zenzelezz | I keep forgetting about Wolfram Alpha |
| 19:48.50 | Cide | amro: only if you average |
| 19:49.26 | olafski | I'd have guessed Cide as older than 21 too :P |
| 19:49.36 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I thought him to be around my age |
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| 19:49.58 | amro | Cide: which month? |
| 19:50.07 | Cide | hm? |
| 19:50.13 | amro | which month were you born |
| 19:50.17 | Cide | march |
| 19:50.34 | amro | okay, I'm older, petty victory for me |
| 19:50.40 | olafski | moonwitch|mobile: yeah about that :) |
| 19:50.46 | Cide | I'm greater in awesomeness |
| 19:51.09 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: see thats pointless |
| 19:51.16 | Thunder_Child | just type in 21 years |
| 19:51.25 | Thunder_Child | you get the same info with less hasssle |
| 19:51.27 | Thunder_Child | hassle* |
| 19:51.38 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: I don't trust it to get leap years right then |
| 19:51.55 | amro | also I don't know how many years it's been since 1984. |
| 19:52.02 | Thunder_Child | but you trust it with the math |
| 19:52.07 | Thunder_Child | makes noe sense |
| 19:52.09 | Thunder_Child | no* |
| 19:52.30 | Cide | amro: are you born in 1984? |
| 19:52.41 | amro | no |
| 19:52.47 | amro | is it 2005? |
| 19:52.52 | olafski | given the accuracy with which you have your answer now zenzelezz, I doubt leap years would have made much of a difference |
| 19:52.53 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: when I've told it the starting year and ending year, yes. |
| 19:53.09 | zenzelezz | hey, that's 86400 seconds for every leap year |
| 19:53.11 | zenzelezz | it adds up |
| 19:53.19 | amro | without giving a specific interval, it's not possible to properly account for leap years |
| 19:53.44 | amro | a 6 year window might include 2 or just 1 leap years |
| 19:54.12 | sade | but if your 6 years old now, it only include 1 or 2 depending on what year this is |
| 19:54.20 | Flowy | 6 hours per year |
| 19:54.25 | olafski | zenzelezz: in 21 years there are at most 5 leap years I think.. 0,0432e8 seconds |
| 19:54.35 | olafski | I guess the difference would somewhat be visible :) |
| 19:54.36 | Humbedooh | amro: or none ;o |
| 19:54.40 | zenzelezz | olafski: accuracy matters |
| 19:54.47 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 19:54.49 | jnwhiteh | sc2? |
| 19:54.52 | amro | Humbedooh: not possible with contiguous years |
| 19:54.56 | olafski | zenzelezz: I have no idea what we're even talking about :) |
| 19:55.01 | Humbedooh | sure it is! |
| 19:55.08 | amro | also this is a totally pointless conversation |
| 19:55.15 | Humbedooh | every century not divisible by 400 is bad mkay |
| 19:55.24 | zenzelezz | amro: well that's never happened in here before! |
| 19:55.26 | amro | jnwhiteh: you play? |
| 19:55.31 | jnwhiteh | ofc |
| 19:55.36 | jnwhiteh | was gonna do some 2v2 |
| 19:55.36 | amro | eu or us? |
| 19:55.41 | jnwhiteh | eu |
| 19:55.44 | amro | boo :( |
| 19:55.48 | Kraps | fucking trolls http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27397543858&sid=1 |
| 19:55.48 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 19:55.57 | olafski | how do they work |
| 19:56.56 | amro | Humbedooh: what do centuries have to do with it? |
| 19:57.12 | Humbedooh | not all centuries are leap years |
| 19:57.31 | amro | centuries are not years |
| 19:57.46 | Humbedooh | you know what I mean :\ |
| 19:57.52 | Humbedooh | the year 1900 wasn't a leap year |
| 19:57.52 | sade | 365.25636053 * seconds in a day * years alive |
| 19:58.01 | sade | fuck leape year |
| 19:58.07 | amro | yeah, but how's that relevant to what I said? |
| 19:58.23 | amro | in any given 6 year window, you have 1-2 leap years |
| 19:58.25 | Humbedooh | " <amro> a 6 year window might include 2 or just 1 leap years" |
| 19:58.49 | Humbedooh | 1897 -> 1903 = 6 years without a leap |
| 19:59.49 | Humbedooh | ofc none of us lived in 1897, but still ;> |
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| 19:59.56 | amro | didn't know about that 400 year stuff |
| 20:00.05 | amro | leap years are retarded |
| 20:00.07 | amro | :( |
| 20:00.09 | Flowy | Humbedooh are you sure? |
| 20:00.14 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 20:00.21 | amro | Flowy: http://www.google.com |
| 20:00.24 | Humbedooh | yes, quite sure |
| 20:01.01 | Flowy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism |
| 20:03.03 | Flowy | wikipedia have information about google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google |
| 20:03.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | has* |
| 20:03.28 | Flowy | but google knows about wikipedia just where it is http://www.google.sk/search?q=wikipedia |
| 20:03.39 | Flowy | which one is better? |
| 20:03.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | note to self : don't feed the trolls. |
| 20:07.29 | Maldivia | but they're hungry |
| 20:08.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | they should stay hungry then |
| 20:09.03 | olafski | let them starve! |
| 20:10.31 | Humbedooh | http://s2.buzzfeed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/4/3/0/husky-on-a-computer-28817-1238733234-2.jpg :( |
| 20:10.36 | Humbedooh | you'd let him starve? :\ |
| 20:11.17 | olafski | is that google I see on his screen? |
| 20:11.59 | Thunder_Child | someone needs to remake Nox |
| 20:12.04 | Thunder_Child | that was an amazing game |
| 20:12.24 | olafski | sounds familiar |
| 20:12.47 | Thunder_Child | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/nox/index.html |
| 20:13.53 | olafski | doesn't look familiar :P |
| 20:16.22 | amro | yes, nox was full of win |
| 20:16.56 | Flowy | bb |
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| 20:21.39 | MoonWitch|Mobile | why is it that mac gets all the sexy UI-ed applications |
| 20:21.47 | MoonWitch|Mobile | windows usually gets the crap |
| 20:21.50 | zenzelezz | hm, I used to know one of the developers on Nox |
| 20:21.53 | MoonWitch|Mobile | linux gets stability (generally) |
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| 20:22.22 | amro | MoonWitch|Mobile: I'm on linux and I have a sexy UI |
| 20:22.33 | MoonWitch|Mobile | pic or didnt happen :P |
| 20:22.42 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i can't remember who it was |
| 20:22.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yes I can |
| 20:23.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | KRAPS you -- he's got this insanely sexy Litestep setup |
| 20:24.26 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lmao Janeway as Klingon |
| 20:24.58 | amro | too lazy to screenshot |
| 20:25.41 | amro | plus I'm in the middle of changing the color scheme so there are some things that look totally out of place |
| 20:25.49 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I'm using stock UI more or less |
| 20:25.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I still need to find some way to get it right |
| 20:26.11 | zenzelezz | in other words, amro's currently using his Hello Kitty scheme, and doesn't want us to know |
| 20:26.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lol |
| 20:26.19 | amro | shhhh! |
| 20:26.35 | amro | MoonWitch|Mobile: kde or gnome? |
| 20:26.44 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Win7 :( |
| 20:26.51 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and on Linux Gnome :) |
| 20:26.51 | amro | also, a hello kitty theme sounds awesome, I'd totally use it |
| 20:27.01 | MoonWitch|Mobile | mmmmmmmmmmm seven of nine |
| 20:27.09 | amro | no wonder you think linux is ugly |
| 20:27.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | occasionally I go XFCE |
| 20:27.36 | amro | that's even uglier |
| 20:27.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | xfce isn't for looks ;) |
| 20:27.55 | amro | yeah, or it'd be the biggest failure in the world |
| 20:28.08 | amro | it's for running a desktop on your pocketwatch |
| 20:28.18 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so what do you recommend, kde? |
| 20:28.22 | amro | yes |
| 20:28.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | my dislike for kde stems from our requirement to use it in school |
| 20:28.50 | MoonWitch|Mobile | we were obligated to use it |
| 20:28.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so since then I've not tried it |
| 20:28.57 | amro | your school was probably using kde 2 |
| 20:29.02 | MoonWitch|Mobile | could look allll different now |
| 20:29.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | it was back in 2002 |
| 20:29.12 | amro | hah |
| 20:29.18 | amro | yeah, it looks totally different |
| 20:29.34 | MoonWitch|Mobile | let me whip up googlefu |
| 20:30.18 | amro | http://www.petesodyssey.org/files/kde4screenshot1.png my theme currently looks like that, but it has translucency |
| 20:30.40 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i may have to install kde yes |
| 20:31.09 | amro | http://kde-look.org/CONTENT/content-pre2/128877-2.jpeg |
| 20:31.41 | MoonWitch|Mobile | sleek |
| 20:40.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | amro: which distro do you use? |
| 20:40.19 | amro | kubuntu 10.10 |
| 20:40.43 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i wanted to go for fedora or just debian |
| 20:40.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | but i get issues with my hardware on the laptop |
| 20:41.03 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and in ubuntu is even worse |
| 20:41.16 | MoonWitch|Mobile | as soon as I install gfx drivers I'm done with it lol |
| 20:41.51 | MoonWitch|Mobile | (nvidia Optimus technology, basically I got an onboard and dedicated card and they fight in linux) |
| 20:42.27 | sade | is it possible click through a frame. i have seached everywhere, and tired several things |
| 20:42.41 | MoonWitch|Mobile | sade yes |
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| 20:52.25 | sade | hmm,it was my texture - set it to nonBlocking(true) and it works |
| 20:52.54 | sade | <3 VB Intellisence |
| 20:53.20 | amro | oO VB? |
| 20:53.30 | sade | i mean VS |
| 20:53.35 | sade | visual studio |
| 20:54.10 | zenzelezz | your secret is out |
| 20:54.24 | sade | what secret? |
| 20:54.27 | zenzelezz | VB |
| 20:55.04 | sade | im used to saying VB cuz thats all i have been using Visual studio for for the past 3 months |
| 20:55.37 | sade | for class |
| 20:55.55 | amro | I'd drop the class |
| 20:56.02 | sade | easy a |
| 20:56.07 | sade | why drop it? |
| 20:56.26 | amro | brain damage |
| 20:56.29 | sade | lol |
| 20:57.05 | sade | it is kinda strange after messing with c++ |
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| 20:58.25 | Fisker | i just got an email offering to upgrade my meat joystick |
| 20:58.34 | sade | ?? |
| 20:58.36 | Fisker | Is this awesome? |
| 20:58.47 | sade | what is a meat joystick? |
| 20:59.16 | Fisker | well what looks like a joystick and is made of meat? |
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| 20:59.32 | olafski | :D |
| 20:59.39 | sade | ok |
| 20:59.44 | olafski | joystick is such a nice word |
| 20:59.52 | sade | i thought meat was the brand or sumthin |
| 21:00.31 | olafski | intellisense is nice though |
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| 21:00.48 | sade | yeah, its awesome |
| 21:02.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | VS2010? |
| 21:02.12 | sade | i have VS studio 2010 prof. |
| 21:02.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | as do I |
| 21:02.20 | sade | hey |
| 21:02.21 | olafski | premium here! |
| 21:02.29 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i was just curious |
| 21:02.34 | olafski | and 2008 =) |
| 21:02.35 | sade | you get the LUA extension to work? |
| 21:02.37 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yes, but whose is legiy? |
| 21:02.42 | olafski | mine :P |
| 21:02.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ooh |
| 21:03.00 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I have VS2010 ultimate |
| 21:03.04 | olafski | I don't really use it for stuff other than work |
| 21:03.11 | sade | how do you check version |
| 21:03.38 | sade | ultimate here too |
| 21:04.06 | olafski | (and with "don't really" I mean "don't" :)) |
| 21:04.21 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I am more in awe of olafski with the legit |
| 21:04.36 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I rather use notepad++ or vi |
| 21:05.15 | sade | MoonWitch, you say you got lua extension to work? |
| 21:05.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | as far I could see it's working fine |
| 21:05.42 | sade | does it put a link in your new file/project to make a new "lua" file? |
| 21:06.10 | sade | or did it just allow you to open lua files and use intellisence |
| 21:06.20 | olafski | moonwitch|mobile: well, got it from work :P |
| 21:06.29 | MoonWitch|Mobile | nope |
| 21:06.38 | olafski | and it's on a virtual pc to be used with work so I wouldn't feel comfortable using it for my own ends anyway |
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| 21:07.27 | sade | oh yeah, i got my copy from MSDNAA academic alliance |
| 21:08.20 | olafski | I should've done that before I finished my education too |
| 21:08.24 | MoonWitch|Mobile | sade I don't use VS for lua |
| 21:08.35 | sade | yeah, im using notepad++ |
| 21:08.37 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hey Tuller |
| 21:08.42 | Tuller | hello |
| 21:08.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | or scite, or vi :) |
| 21:08.48 | sade | im using VS for xml |
| 21:09.00 | sade | its quite nice for xml |
| 21:09.14 | sade | vi |
| 21:09.14 | MoonWitch|Mobile | notepad++ for xml too |
| 21:09.25 | sade | is that like vim? |
| 21:09.27 | MoonWitch|Mobile | if I'm in linux, Vi all the way |
| 21:09.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yes |
| 21:09.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | Vim is Vi improved |
| 21:09.35 | sade | ewww |
| 21:09.50 | olafski | :q! |
| 21:09.57 | MoonWitch|Mobile | :wq! |
| 21:10.00 | sade | i like cmd, but screw that |
| 21:10.06 | olafski | no don't bother with w |
| 21:10.13 | olafski | just :q! and use something else :-) |
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| 21:10.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | hey tek |
| 21:10.39 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no seriously, vi is very handy for quick n dirty work on a webserver |
| 21:10.39 | amro | MoonWitch|Mobile: you can use gvim on windows |
| 21:10.50 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i have it on this machine ;) |
| 21:11.01 | amro | personally I use kate which has a vi mode |
| 21:11.06 | MoonWitch|Mobile | oh? |
| 21:11.08 | amro | and is also available on windows |
| 21:11.10 | MoonWitch|Mobile | that i didn't know |
| 21:11.51 | sade | yeah, vi is good for config files |
| 21:12.10 | olafski | meh so is ultraedit.. or nano |
| 21:12.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | or just plain old edit in a cmd box :P |
| 21:12.39 | Tuller | i like notepad++ but for some reason it just feels lacking nowish |
| 21:12.39 | sade | ultraedit, isnt that for hacking? |
| 21:12.56 | olafski | for "hacking"? :S |
| 21:12.59 | olafski | it's a text editor.. |
| 21:13.27 | Fisker | think he's talking about the hexeditor |
| 21:13.31 | sade | yeah |
| 21:13.37 | amro | wow, he did not just claim nano > vim |
| 21:13.42 | amro | I can't read any more of this |
| 21:13.45 | MoonWitch|Mobile | in what way Tuller |
| 21:13.48 | Fisker | notepad > * |
| 21:13.52 | Nechckn | fwiw, I like Notepad++ on MS Win and TextWrangler on OSX - vi is very nice for small changes, though - but not for much in-depth. |
| 21:13.53 | olafski | I'm not really into hacking, wouldn't know what hex editors have to do with it :) |
| 21:14.11 | Tuller | i dunno, its just not making me as happy as it used to :P |
| 21:14.22 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so did you switch to another editor? |
| 21:14.30 | Tuller | nope :P |
| 21:14.36 | Baps | I'm trying to limit my RegisterForDrag() to only effect the header instead of the whole frame.. but I don't seem bot be able to call it on the title region from CreateTitleRegion() -- any suggestions? |
| 21:14.41 | Baps | or is that not doable? |
| 21:14.49 | Tuller | though I continue to convert people to notepad++ at wherever I work :P |
| 21:14.56 | Tuller | its just something feels more off now than it used to |
| 21:15.07 | MoonWitch|Mobile | the only reason I keep on sticking to notepad++ is the tabs |
| 21:15.20 | MoonWitch|Mobile | when working with vi I can just open a shitload of terminals |
| 21:15.26 | amro | why is vi lacking for anything more than small stuff? |
| 21:15.30 | amro | that makes no sense |
| 21:15.39 | amro | vi is specifically awesome because it's good for more advanced editing |
| 21:15.45 | Tuller | my mac runs textmate |
| 21:16.00 | Nechckn | Used it for years and it is a bit tedious, to me, amro. |
| 21:16.03 | MoonWitch|Mobile | textmate - oh how i would adore a win clone |
| 21:16.13 | Nechckn | But, to each their own, jsut saying that is my preference. |
| 21:16.27 | amro | Nechckn: considering you can do anything your typical editor does, but more, I don't really get that (unless it's about style or something) |
| 21:17.27 | Nechckn | I did not say you could not, but the older I get and the more OSes I have to mess with, more gui is better for my grey matter. |
| 21:18.10 | amro | gvim has a gui frontend for the most common functionality |
| 21:18.21 | Nechckn | deprecated crap left over in brain crevases and such, mostly. |
| 21:18.22 | amro | and kate probably has more gui than you want |
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| 21:18.39 | MoonWitch|Mobile | the one thing I never could get into in windows was LaTeX |
| 21:18.47 | MoonWitch|Mobile | MikTeX just didn't do |
| 21:18.59 | olafski | I found miktex to be working quite ok |
| 21:19.07 | olafski | though it's the only latex distro I've used :) |
| 21:19.18 | MoonWitch|Mobile | same |
| 21:19.28 | amro | tried lyx? |
| 21:19.28 | MoonWitch|Mobile | so I have a persistent liveCD for quick stuff :P |
| 21:19.33 | MoonWitch|Mobile | nopr |
| 21:19.52 | amro | http://www.lyx.org/ |
| 21:19.56 | amro | works on windows |
| 21:19.58 | olafski | what is miktex missing? I used ultraedit to type and miktex to compile, seemed to work fine :) |
| 21:20.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | its been ages since I used it |
| 21:20.23 | zenzelezz | I tried latex, but it was uncomfortable |
| 21:20.30 | MoonWitch|Mobile | < has CS5 master |
| 21:20.34 | olafski | sure is zenzelezz |
| 21:20.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and thus acrobat pro |
| 21:20.53 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and openoffice to create PDFs |
| 21:21.05 | olafski | ew openoffice :P |
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| 21:21.25 | MoonWitch|Mobile | what do you use? |
| 21:21.35 | olafski | latex |
| 21:21.41 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lol |
| 21:21.44 | olafski | or office if I must |
| 21:21.48 | MoonWitch|Mobile | as office suite i meant |
| 21:21.57 | olafski | I'd rather not use an office suite at all |
| 21:22.14 | MoonWitch|Mobile | brb |
| 21:22.18 | olafski | I use word for small documents and latex for larger ones, though I think my employers wouldn't like the latter |
| 21:22.29 | olafski | they also wouldn't like if I used openoffice I think/hope |
| 21:26.14 | MoonWitch|Mobile | lol |
| 21:26.31 | MoonWitch|Mobile | why would they mind? |
| 21:26.46 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I mean -- openoffice would cut the companys expenses |
| 21:26.59 | olafski | because openoffice is a pile of crap :) |
| 21:27.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | never ad a huge issue with it to be honest |
| 21:27.30 | olafski | I tried it once and hated it |
| 21:27.37 | olafski | must've been about 10 years ago by now |
| 21:27.46 | MoonWitch|Mobile | well that's probably the reason lol |
| 21:27.54 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i had word shit in school on StarOffice ;) |
| 21:28.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | we even had classes on LaTeX |
| 21:28.23 | olafski | office works for me, though making long documents in word is a bit of a pain |
| 21:28.30 | MoonWitch|Mobile | not that I remember a lot of it |
| 21:28.30 | olafski | I can never get pictures right |
| 21:28.34 | A-KO | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs943.snc4/73647_443262955266_641465266_5521743_3533795_n.jpg |
| 21:28.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | same |
| 21:28.42 | olafski | still not easy in latex but at least I eventually end up with something I like |
| 21:28.50 | olafski | made my MSc thesis with latex, it looked quite satisfactory |
| 21:29.04 | olafski | anywho, bedtime.. nn :) |
| 21:29.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | nn |
| 21:29.14 | A-KO | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs006.snc4/33660_443263430266_641465266_5521764_2849466_n.jpg |
| 21:29.18 | MoonWitch|Mobile | talk to ya tomorro |
| 21:29.30 | olafski | possibly :) |
| 21:29.40 | olafski | I'm usually only on irc on nights when my gf raids :) |
| 21:29.42 | Tuller | thunder cougar falcon bird |
| 21:29.45 | olafski | ttyl! |
| 21:29.46 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ah |
| 21:29.58 | A-KO | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs951.snc4/74457_443263535266_641465266_5521768_1295763_n.jpg |
| 21:30.06 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Tuller |
| 21:30.06 | purl | decapitates Tuller conan the destroyer style |
| 21:30.26 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i take it the larting is random? |
| 21:30.33 | A-KO | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs889.snc4/72280_443262805266_641465266_5521737_6027973_n.jpg |
| 21:31.17 | MoonWitch|Mobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.17 | purl | lowers Thunder_Child's priority |
| 21:31.32 | Thunder_Child | ~dodge MoonWitch|Mobile |
| 21:31.33 | purl | at the last second thunder_child dodges out of the way of MoonWitch|Mobile's malicious and unprovoked attack. |
| 21:31.48 | MoonWitch|Mobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.48 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses Thunder_Child down |
| 21:31.58 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield MoonWitch|Mobile |
| 21:32.08 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield |
| 21:32.09 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast. |
| 21:32.29 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ok what are all the commands actually? |
| 21:32.32 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ~help |
| 21:32.57 | Thunder_Child | there is only a list of the built in ones |
| 21:33.05 | Thunder_Child | not of factoids that people make |
| 21:33.28 | Thunder_Child | sometimes you just have to try it and hope for the best |
| 21:33.36 | Thunder_Child | ~cheeseslap MoonWitch|Mobile |
| 21:33.36 | purl | ACTION slaps MoonWitch|Mobile around with a wheel of swiss |
| 21:33.37 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ~wtf |
| 21:33.46 | Thunder_Child | thats for acronyms |
| 21:33.49 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf wtf |
| 21:34.02 | Thunder_Child | ~wtf snafu |
| 21:34.04 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ~rot13 |
| 21:34.05 | Thunder_Child | etc. |
| 21:34.52 | MoonWitch|Mobile | unlobotomy ... lol |
| 21:34.53 | Thunder_Child | that one seems to do the same as say |
| 21:35.02 | Thunder_Child | ~rot13 Thunder_Child |
| 21:35.02 | purl | Guhaqre_Puvyq |
| 21:35.08 | Thunder_Child | err..not |
| 21:35.56 | Kraps | derps at his nephews bar mitzvah |
| 21:36.07 | A-KO | http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=240557&id=641465266&l=6ee96e2638 :D < fun stuff |
| 21:36.27 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: stop derping |
| 21:36.51 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: i will derp as i please, Thunder_Child |
| 21:36.59 | Thunder_Child | NAO |
| 21:37.11 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ~unlobomoty |
| 21:37.21 | MoonWitch|Mobile | wow that went totally wrong |
| 21:37.30 | MoonWitch|Mobile | ~unlobotomy |
| 21:37.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | come on purl |
| 21:38.47 | Kraps | so you heard about the fail at the blizzcon wow tourny? |
| 21:38.53 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no |
| 21:38.57 | amro | the fact that it's a wow tourney? |
| 21:40.20 | Maldivia | the 3sec overtime vs 20sec overtime etc? |
| 21:40.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | oh yeah Kraps? Could you tell me where you obtained Litestep like that? Since I cant seem to find a version that works on Win7 |
| 21:40.38 | Kraps | Maldivia: yeah |
| 21:41.08 | Kraps | MoonWitch|Mobile: idk wtf you're talking about |
| 21:41.24 | MoonWitch|Mobile | I thought youÅe the one with the sleek litestep setup on your pc |
| 21:41.26 | MoonWitch|Mobile | sorry |
| 21:41.54 | Kraps | np |
| 21:45.59 | sade | omg my addon is sweet |
| 21:49.05 | Kraps | Maldivia: oh there was no kill for 20 minutes? |
| 21:51.10 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 21:53.30 | Kraps | whatever |
| 21:53.34 | Kraps | sc2 ftw |
| 21:53.41 | Kraps | also halo |
| 21:53.47 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i actually wanna try SC2 |
| 21:53.56 | MoonWitch|Mobile | but don't feel like buying it without trial |
| 21:53.57 | MoonWitch|Mobile | :( |
| 21:54.06 | foxlit | Screw excuses, buy SC2 already. |
| 21:54.23 | foxlit | [you could find a friend with it and ask them to play on their PC] |
| 21:54.35 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i don't have friends *sob* |
| 21:54.51 | MoonWitch|Mobile | no seriously, I've checked with those I know (that live in Belgium), none play it |
| 21:55.01 | amro | there are 12 people in belgium |
| 21:55.03 | foxlit | My 2v2 win/loss record is around 20/3 at the moment :( |
| 21:55.04 | amro | how many did you ask? |
| 21:55.13 | Kraps | foxlit: i have no sc2-playing friends |
| 21:55.13 | MoonWitch|Mobile | the 8 i know |
| 21:55.25 | amro | Kraps: zomg I thought you were my friend :'( |
| 21:55.27 | foxlit | The dreaded 17-loss streak is totally coming |
| 21:55.38 | Kraps | amro: ... |
| 21:56.02 | amro | what? |
| 21:56.08 | Kraps | ohai |
| 21:56.19 | amro | make more scvs |
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| 22:01.30 | foxlit | http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson775.html |
| 22:01.35 | foxlit | Where do I get one of those? |
| 22:02.42 | Dagmar | Get what? A clueless hosting provider? |
| 22:03.00 | foxlit | mallet. |
| 22:03.02 | amro | nicky larson |
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| 22:08.22 | Lulia | Hey guys |
| 22:09.39 | Lulia | I got my first visible frame and texture working! :D |
| 22:09.40 | sade | hi |
| 22:09.44 | sade | nice |
| 22:10.22 | sade | i made an extension to faceshooter and its working |
| 22:10.32 | Lulia | When creating a frame by lua, I can use the parent field to designate another frame as the parent, right? And the current frame should take all of the attributes of the parent frame? |
| 22:10.52 | Humbedooh | yes |
| 22:10.52 | amro | Lulia: that's not what happens |
| 22:10.58 | Humbedooh | if you do it right |
| 22:11.00 | Lulia | Oh? |
| 22:11.23 | sade | would that be inheritance field, may be way off base |
| 22:11.29 | Humbedooh | it doesn't happen automatically tho |
| 22:11.42 | Lulia | CreateFrame("frameType"[, "frameName"[, parentFrame[, "inheritsFrame"]]]); |
| 22:12.01 | Humbedooh | parentFrame just means "who owns this frame" |
| 22:12.08 | Kraps | Bluehost? isnt that the one that dropped frogpants network like a a hot potato? |
| 22:12.09 | amro | if you set a parent, then your frame will be hidden when the parent frame is |
| 22:12.27 | Lulia | So it's not the equivalent of nesting it like: <Frame><Frame></Frame></Frame>? |
| 22:12.44 | Humbedooh | well in that example, it is |
| 22:12.52 | Humbedooh | but that's a rather...useless example :p |
| 22:12.52 | sade | you dont have to set a parent to inherit atributes though correct? |
| 22:12.58 | Humbedooh | no |
| 22:13.30 | sade | well, that makes sense |
| 22:13.42 | sade | kinda like css in a way i guess |
| 22:14.17 | Lulia | Well, what I want to do is have the frame move with the parent frame. |
| 22:14.22 | Lulia | Which is why I want to set a parent. |
| 22:14.36 | amro | attach the frame to the intended parent |
| 22:14.38 | Lulia | However, when I tried to set the parent before, I still had to define size and location attributes. |
| 22:14.45 | amro | yes, you do |
| 22:14.52 | sade | anchor relative? |
| 22:15.16 | Humbedooh | you need a size and at least one anchor, or the frame just won't render |
| 22:15.27 | Humbedooh | 'cause liek...where would it render? :\ |
| 22:15.53 | amro | floats around |
| 22:15.56 | Lulia | Presumably in the same place as the parent. |
| 22:15.57 | amro | don't need to have any anchors |
| 22:16.03 | amro | no lulia |
| 22:16.09 | amro | parent has nothing to do with positioning |
| 22:16.13 | Lulia | Size makes sense I suppose, but how do I anchor it to the parent? |
| 22:16.25 | amro | myFrame:SetPoint(TOPLEFT, parent) |
| 22:16.39 | amro | or more clearly |
| 22:16.51 | amro | myFrame:SetPoint(TOPLEFT, parent, TOPLEFT, xOffset, yOffset) |
| 22:17.03 | amro | as you'll probably want an offset, and might want to anchor to a different point on the parent |
| 22:17.52 | Lulia | Alright |
| 22:18.03 | sade | amro, what addons have you made? |
| 22:18.19 | Lulia | So, you said setting the parent frame through the CreateFrame function is not going to work as intended? |
| 22:18.28 | Lulia | That's still confusing me. |
| 22:18.57 | Humbedooh | it _should_ work, but not always :p |
| 22:18.58 | Lulia | According to WoWPedia, Region:SetParent was... moved in 1.10? |
| 22:19.09 | Humbedooh | you can use child:SetParent(parent_frame) |
| 22:19.48 | Lulia | What does WoWPedia mean by it was moved? |
| 22:20.27 | Humbedooh | probably that it used to belong to another object type |
| 22:21.00 | Lulia | And you would suggest then that I use the SetParent function over setting it in CreateFrame? So I should have something like: sf = CreateFrame("FRAME", nil, UIParent); sf:SetParent(f) ? |
| 22:21.28 | Humbedooh | of just sf = CreateFrame("Frame") |
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| 22:22.52 | Lulia | Oh, so I dont need to set a parent? |
| 22:22.55 | Lulia | :X |
| 22:23.02 | Lulia | is looking pretty dumb! |
| 22:23.14 | Humbedooh | you don't _need_ to set it no |
| 22:23.27 | Lulia | Well, I mean, is it bad form to not set one? |
| 22:23.37 | Humbedooh | it depends on what you need the frame for |
| 22:24.02 | Humbedooh | if you want it to hide when you hide the parent, then you should set a parent :) |
| 22:24.07 | Humbedooh | if not, then...who cares |
| 22:25.51 | Lulia | I suppose nil and UIParent are default values then? Like, if I want the frame to be made as attached to the UIParent, then I don't actually need to specify? |
| 22:27.03 | Humbedooh | well technically no, but programatically you'd need to specify UIParent as the parent |
| 22:27.32 | Humbedooh | it's supposed to default to UIParent iirc, but it's broken or something |
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| 22:28.12 | sade | is there an easy way to find the name of a frame on the screen? trying to find frame names for actionbar buttons 1-6 |
| 22:28.37 | MoonWitch|Mobile | yes macro -- its on wowwiki |
| 22:28.42 | sade | ok |
| 22:28.50 | amro | wowpedia* |
| 22:29.02 | amro | sade: use /framestack |
| 22:29.09 | Dagmar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritual_Entertainment |
| 22:29.12 | Dagmar | wrong chan |
| 22:29.23 | MoonWitch|Mobile | i clicked it anyhow |
| 22:29.24 | Lulia | Thanks guys, btw. Got some more stuff to work on now :) |
| 22:29.48 | sade | thanks amro |
| 22:30.21 | sade | wow, amro, that is sweet |
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| 22:32.08 | Kraps | amro: i need a better scv recruiting campaign probably |
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| 22:37.02 | amro | Kraps: 5s5s5s5s5s5s5s5s |
| 22:37.04 | amro | works for me |
| 22:37.10 | amro | (I bind command center to 5) |
| 22:38.28 | Kraps | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/10/500x_dsc00098-1280.jpg |
| 22:41.24 | Iriel | Kraps: there were a pair of 'You no take candle' girls |
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| 22:49.43 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/10/24/the-lawbringer-buying-precedent/ |
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| 22:55.53 | Lulia | Hmm, saw an "if not X then" statement in lua, does it only evaluate if X is boolean, or does it count 0 as a false value as well and non-zero has a true value? |
| 22:56.12 | Iriel | Anything other than nil and false are considered "true" |
| 22:56.21 | Iriel | 0 is true, this catches a lot of people |
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| 22:57.49 | Lulia | Hence why I asked :), Thanks @lriel |
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| 22:58.55 | Legorol | Is there any way to show buffs on your target using the default UI? |
| 22:59.02 | toadicus | Does anyone know if GetTradeSkillInfo is protected now, or why else a hook thereto might be failing? |
| 22:59.09 | Legorol | Is it intentional or a bug that since 4.0.1 they don't show up by default? |
| 22:59.24 | Maldivia | should show up by default, have you disabled it in the settings? |
| 22:59.28 | toadicus | @Legorol, they show up just fine for me, with and without mods. |
| 23:00.24 | Legorol | hmmm |
| 23:00.32 | Iriel | Do you h ave consolidation turned on? |
| 23:00.41 | Legorol | yes |
| 23:00.56 | Fisker | test tickles Iriel |
| 23:00.57 | Maldivia | (so weird seeing @name in IRC (except for +o)) |
| 23:01.13 | Iriel | eyes Fisker with appropriate levels of suspicion. |
| 23:01.15 | toadicus | Also you might check the "Dispellable/Castable Debuffs" and "Castable Buffs" options in Buffs and Debuffs. |
| 23:01.33 | toadicus | If any of those three are checked it might reduce the buffs you see on targets. |
| 23:02.18 | toadicus | (particularly friendlies, if you are looking for buffs on friendlies as a rogue and you have Castable Buffs checked, you will come up pretty short ;) ) |
| 23:02.40 | Legorol | Iriel: are you saying that buff consolidation makes buffs disappear from teh target? |
| 23:03.03 | Legorol | aha, could be the castable buffs, i'll go try that |
| 23:03.09 | Iriel | I was just thinking of culprits for hiding buffs you might expect to see |
| 23:03.22 | Legorol | if it's the castable buffs option, that'd be really annoying.. |
| 23:03.32 | Legorol | i don't want to see all buffs on raid units, but on target i do :S |
| 23:03.37 | Legorol | ah well |
| 23:03.49 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 23:03.52 | Iriel | Sounds like you might need an addon 8-) |
| 23:03.57 | Legorol | o'rly :D |
| 23:04.18 | Iriel | [Who knows how fiddly that is now though, with the buff protection stuff\ |
| 23:04.20 | Legorol | thing is though, this is a change in behaviour for the default UI, which is annoying |
| 23:04.30 | Legorol | buff protection? :O |
| 23:04.56 | Mirrormn | I really need to get like a notepad to write on |
| 23:05.17 | Mirrormn | having all my prospective changes written on receipts and envelopes is getting very confusing! |
| 23:05.23 | Kraps | notepad.exe |
| 23:05.27 | Legorol | oh btw, please spread the word: if anyone has trouble seeing Projected Textures in the game world (for example, the giant rune from Death and Decay), despite it being turned on in video options, the culprit is the new "Emphasize my spell effects" option |
| 23:05.37 | Legorol | if you have emphasize turned on, then projected textures disappear |
| 23:05.52 | Mirrormn | I usually write this stuff when I'm like at lunch or getting into my car, not when I'm at my computer |
| 23:06.15 | Maldivia | mail yourself from your phone? |
| 23:07.12 | Maldivia | anyway, night night |
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| 23:11.47 | toadicus | So no insight on GetTradeSkillInfo? |
| 23:13.28 | Lulia | This is odd... |
| 23:13.41 | A-KO | what's wrong with it toadicus? |
| 23:13.48 | toadicus | I can't hook it anymore |
| 23:13.55 | Lulia | WoW is giviing me a lua error telling me that I'm trying to concatenate a nil value when I know for the fact the value is always at least 0. |
| 23:14.05 | toadicus | But I see no documentation of it being protected now |
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| 23:15.13 | toadicus | I had written a small mod to inject the string "(Minor) " into skillName when GetTradeSkillInfo returns a minor glyph |
| 23:15.39 | toadicus | But since 4.0, hooking the function makes it return nil, nil, 0, nil, nil for all skillIndex |
| 23:17.39 | toadicus | I thought it might have to do with the tradeskillui addon being loaded on demand, so I even moved the hook into an ADDON_LOADED onevent, to avoid it being called when LoadAddon() is called, but that doesn't help. |
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| 23:22.49 | Dajova | yo... just joined to check if there is a way to inc font size from beyond the "limit"? |
| 23:24.07 | Dajova | regular SetFont and SetHeight/SetWidth won't let me go past a certain size. |
| 23:24.40 | Dajova | and SetScale wont do a shit :P |
| 23:26.09 | Lulia | The Alpha value of a child frame can't supercede the Alpha value of a parent frame? |
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| 23:27.35 | Iriel | Lulia: right, base alpha is inherited |
| 23:27.54 | Iriel | Lulia: If you're trying to "Defeat" this then you probably need to reconsider how you're parenting versus anchoring |
| 23:28.08 | Lulia | Ah, thanks. Just made the texture lower its alpha, as opposed to the base frame. :) |
| 23:28.54 | Lulia | My addon is now changing images in accordance with in-game events, this is pretty awesome :D |
| 23:30.21 | Dajova | no1? :( |
| 23:32.17 | sade | http://www.wegame.com/watch/faceshooter-extension/ |
| 23:32.28 | sade | nothing awesome but my first thing i did |
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| 23:36.48 | Iriel | Dajova: I'm surprised setscale isn't helping |
| 23:37.21 | Dajova | well, if i add that, it wont show the text whatsoever |
| 23:38.42 | Dajova | neither if add SetScale in the frame or the event itself, it wont work |
| 23:39.27 | Iriel | You might want to check that the scaled font string's anchors allow it to grow to be big enough to hold larger text |
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| 23:40.34 | Dajova | already is |
| 23:40.56 | Dajova | its made so the frame is always twice as large as the fontsize itself |
| 23:41.28 | Dajova | but i saw something now after googling a bit that there is a hardcap on font size on 35... |
| 23:41.34 | Iriel | So you're saying if you do a SetScale(1.1) on the font string it wont get bigger? |
| 23:41.57 | Iriel | That's likely for the font size (as determined in SetFont) since the game has to create textures for each size |
| 23:42.04 | Iriel | but you can scale it larger on screen |
| 23:42.07 | Dajova | rather, if i add setscale, it wont show the text whatsoever |
| 23:42.09 | Iriel | (it just gets pixelly) |
| 23:43.30 | toadicus | For anyone chasing the GetTradeSkillInfo question, you can use a macro like this to demonstrate the problem: /script local gtsi_old = GetTradeSkillInfo; local function gtsi_hook(i) local n, t, a, e, v = gtsi_old(i); return n, t, a, e, v; end; GetTradeSkillInfo = gtsi_hook; |
| 23:43.54 | toadicus | Also, if making a function return all nil and 0 is the default way that protected things break when hooked, just say so and I'll know what's going on. ;) |
| 23:44.06 | toadicus | Never have had to mess with protected stuff at all before. |
| 23:44.11 | Dajova | hmm, just saw something about i should try to fix the font on CreateFontString instead of SetFont... now sure if it's making any difference tho |
| 23:45.15 | Iriel | toadicus: Protected stuff breaks if you hook it at all |
| 23:45.34 | Iriel | toadicus: if the code execution hits code blizzard didn't write, then nothing past that point can do anything protected |
| 23:45.52 | toadicus | That I know; I just didn't think GetTradeSkillInfo was protected. |
| 23:46.06 | Iriel | (I'm using 'hook' in the traditional sense, if you use the secure hook function then that doesn't happen, but then you can't change return values) |
| 23:46.14 | Iriel | I'm not aware that it is either, so it's probably not your problem. |
| 23:46.16 | toadicus | Or if it's not, I'm not sure what's happening that is protected that's hitting GetTradeSkillInfo and breaking. |
| 23:46.21 | Lulia | Is there a site out there that explains how Runes work in the Resource system a bit better than WoWPedia does? It says the runes number 1-6 and then lists which runes are which numbers but not how to tell if a rune is a Death rune, depleted, or recharging. |
| 23:46.33 | toadicus | But when I try to open a trade skill window, it spits a bunch of errors at me. |
| 23:46.59 | Dajova | Lulia: So what would be the best choice? SetScale or CreateFontString? |
| 23:47.13 | toadicus | (technically, it spits one error about comparing with nil, which GTSI should not be returning) |
| 23:47.18 | Lulia | I dunno, don't ask me, I'm noob :( |
| 23:47.24 | Dajova | :> |
| 23:47.32 | Dajova | ill just try and see what works |
| 23:48.10 | toadicus | Could it be denying the tainted GetTradeSkillInfo because it's eventually getting there from LoadAddon? |
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| 23:49.42 | toadicus | (to see more about the error it tosses you can reference http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27303227254&sid=2000, where I posted the question on the cata ui forums) |
| 23:51.03 | Iriel | pastey your hook |
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| 23:52.27 | toadicus | http://pastebin.com/QK91p1YW |
| 23:52.52 | toadicus | If you would rather it inline, it's only 15 lines, but I figured I'd err on the side of less spam. |
| 23:53.47 | Iriel | toadicus: you haven't accounted for all of the cataclysm return values |
| 23:53.58 | Iriel | ./AddOns/Blizzard_TradeSkillUI/Blizzard_TradeSkillUI.lua:skillName, skillType, numAvailable, isExpanded, altVerb, numSkillUps = GetTradeSkillInfo(skillIndex); |
| 23:54.03 | p3lim | anyone got a suggestion for a halloween costume? |
| 23:54.24 | p3lim | something cool, but not too hard/timeconsuming to get/make |
| 23:54.38 | Wobin | the zombie shirt |
| 23:54.52 | toadicus | Ah, spiffy. wowwiki has failed me! ;) |
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| 23:55.49 | Wobin | p3lim: http://deezteez.com/funny-t-shirts/460/turn-into-a-zombie-t-shirt.html?SSAID=112726 |
| 23:56.39 | p3lim | cute :p |
| 23:56.54 | Lulia | Just curious, how difficult of an algorithm is it to setup a frame that's moveable by mouse click? |
| 23:57.09 | Mirrormn_ | perplexingly easy, actually |
| 23:57.14 | Tuller | frame:StartMovingOrSizing() |
| 23:57.17 | Mirrormn_ | indeed |
| 23:57.18 | Tuller | frame:StopMoving() ? |
| 23:57.28 | toadicus | Thanks for the blinding flash of the obvious, Iriel. Just wish I was in a place I could test it right now. ;) |
| 23:57.55 | Lulia | Really? |
| 23:58.25 | Lulia | Where is its location value stored? |
| 23:59.12 | p3lim | layout.local.txt |
| 23:59.27 | p3lim | thats layout-local.txt, sorry |
| 23:59.50 | p3lim | might need to set frame:SetUserPlaced(true) |
