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| 00:04.47 | Lulia | Hmm, frame not showing |
| 00:05.31 | Lulia | I'll try it again later >.> |
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| 00:32.12 | A-KO | holy shit |
| 00:32.14 | A-KO | Machete is awesome |
| 00:44.24 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 00:44.35 | A-KO | like, seriously awesome. |
| 01:05.48 | kd3|netbook | ooh watching jay mohr crash and burn is fun |
| 01:06.01 | kd3|netbook | ooh, referencing NK? |
| 01:06.05 | kd3|netbook | winces |
| 01:10.25 | kd3|netbook | it's almost like he's deliberately trying to not be funny |
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| 01:16.05 | Wobin | oh no |
| 01:16.09 | Wobin | Moonkin hatchling |
| 01:16.12 | Wobin | this will only end in tears |
| 01:16.20 | SqueeG | ? |
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| 01:19.05 | Wobin | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/68137/moonkin-hatchling/ |
| 01:19.18 | Wobin | oh it's a charity pet |
| 01:19.20 | Wobin | I'd buy that |
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| 01:47.44 | Snotty_ | o/ |
| 01:49.19 | Snotty_ | whats the easiest way to add a line of text to the default tooltip with lua? |
| 01:50.00 | Snotty_ | I tried Gametooltip:AddLine - but I'm not seeing anything |
| 01:50.19 | Snotty_ | or do I have to make my own tooltip... |
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| 02:35.49 | A-KO | wow |
| 02:35.53 | A-KO | blizzard made my life a whole lot easier |
| 02:37.52 | Jamash | how so? |
| 02:38.27 | A-KO | that whole buying thing where you can buy separately from stacks now |
| 02:38.35 | A-KO | that just made my shit significantly simplier |
| 02:38.36 | amro | any shellfu ninjas around? |
| 02:38.36 | A-KO | -i |
| 02:38.58 | Dagmar | Hah. |
| 02:39.17 | A-KO | Jamash: Originally, I had to do some voodoo with division :P now I don't! |
| 02:39.28 | Jamash | oh yeah |
| 02:39.30 | Dagmar | A-Ko: I don't get what you mean about buying separately from stacks |
| 02:40.12 | A-KO | Dagmar: Originally, if an item sold in a lot of 200, say arrows--you couldn't buy 50 |
| 02:40.17 | A-KO | you had to buy 200, you couldn't shift+click |
| 02:40.24 | A-KO | now you can |
| 02:40.35 | A-KO | the default buy is that stack |
| 02:40.37 | Dagmar | Oh you mean buy _less_ than the default stack |
| 02:40.39 | A-KO | yes |
| 02:40.48 | Dagmar | Where was that a problem? |
| 02:41.15 | A-KO | I have an addon that auto restocks reagents and other items as needed. Drinks/food/etc. For drinks and food, they're sold in stacks of 5. |
| 02:41.26 | A-KO | I had to handle that slightly differently |
| 02:41.28 | Dagmar | OHHH... |
| 02:41.36 | A-KO | yeaaaaaah |
| 02:41.42 | Dagmar | Okay, yeah from a coding standpoint that would be fucktons easier now |
| 02:41.43 | A-KO | now, I can just ignore that completely. |
| 02:41.45 | A-KO | exactly! |
| 02:41.55 | Dagmar | From a user who is just buying some stuff, it barely ranks as a problem |
| 02:42.16 | A-KO | I can do BuyMerchantItem(ID,COUNT) rather than do some voodoo with looping it |
| 02:42.53 | Dagmar | Yeah, that's definitely handy on the scripting end of things |
| 02:43.16 | Kemayo | Hey, fun, they decided to kill Atlas loot. |
| 02:43.20 | Dagmar | I couldn't figure out how that was more than trivially helpful until you mentioned the coding end of things |
| 02:43.27 | A-KO | yeah |
| 02:43.32 | A-KO | god that will simplify this script so much |
| 02:43.36 | A-KO | and it's a much needed simplification |
| 02:44.03 | Dagmar | I was pretty sure it couldn't easily relate to bullets/arrows, since we're all more in need of a meta click that signifies we wanna buy "LOTS" of ammo |
| 02:44.20 | A-KO | well that's not an issue these days anymore |
| 02:44.23 | A-KO | but my script would auto restock that |
| 02:44.31 | A-KO | so you would say "maintain inventory of 3000" and you hit the vendor |
| 02:44.34 | A-KO | and it would just buy up to that much |
| 02:44.45 | A-KO | every time, auto :P |
| 02:44.53 | A-KO | kind of the basis of my script when I got tired of having to buy drinks/food. |
| 02:44.56 | Dagmar | Yeah but most hunters just click until the things take up a reasonable fraction of their visible bag space |
| 02:45.06 | A-KO | eh not an issue now I don't think since ammo is gone |
| 02:45.09 | Dagmar | Whether or not the final stack is complete is seldom something we care about |
| 02:45.12 | A-KO | but it still helps with stuff like poisons |
| 02:45.15 | A-KO | and food/drink |
| 02:45.28 | A-KO | true, but I mean, you could always say "just keep me around 3K" and it would do it :P |
| 02:45.30 | A-KO | man this is so nice |
| 02:45.34 | A-KO | I had like, overstocking functions and all |
| 02:45.40 | Dagmar | I thought maybe you were on about something related to newbies whining about not being able to afford five bits of string at once or something hehe |
| 02:45.54 | A-KO | where if you entered 2700, and it stacked @ 500, it would buy up to 2500--or if you hit ovestock, it'd buy up to 3K |
| 02:45.56 | A-KO | I can remove ALL of that |
| 02:46.11 | A-KO | which is soooooo nice :P |
| 02:47.23 | Dagmar | Cool |
| 02:47.59 | A-KO | that makes me happy in the pants |
| 02:48.11 | A-KO | since some dude found some sort of bug with the thing I had previously, not sure how/why...but he did... |
| 02:48.22 | A-KO | so I was going in to clean that up a bit, try and fix it |
| 02:48.24 | A-KO | and I really hated that code |
| 02:48.39 | A-KO | You ever do those things where like, you figure it out at 3AM, go to bed, wake up, and go "how the hell did I do that?" |
| 02:48.54 | A-KO | That's about what that came from.... |
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| 03:01.42 | A-KO | and it works, beautifully |
| 03:01.44 | A-KO | purty :D |
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| 04:38.30 | Torhal | Kemayo: Huh? Who decided to kill AtlasLoot? |
| 04:39.22 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: blizzard? |
| 04:44.21 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: Dunno. All I saw was "22:43:14 Kemayo | Hey, fun, they decided to kill Atlas loot." with no prompting or other information. |
| 04:44.53 | Mr_Rabies | Torhal: they're implementing most of AL's features into the instance maps |
| 04:45.00 | Torhal | Ah |
| 04:45.20 | Torhal | Awrighty. Gonna go to bed before I faceplant into the keyboard. |
| 04:45.48 | Mr_Rabies | they're not killing it really, but it won't serve much of a purpose with the current featureset |
| 04:46.21 | Mr_Rabies | tbh it's mostly to curb people from constantly using third party sites for this stuff |
| 04:48.24 | Thunder_Child | i dont think blizz cares about that |
| 04:50.18 | Mr_Rabies | oh geez |
| 04:50.28 | Mr_Rabies | curse client ad just tried to install an ie addon of some sort |
| 04:50.34 | Mr_Rabies | nothankyou.jpg |
| 04:51.04 | Thunder_Child | might be advertisments |
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| 05:00.42 | Thunder_Child | ~seen kraps |
| 05:00.48 | purl | kraps <~chatzilla@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 7h 29m 37s ago, saying: 'i must go'. |
| 05:01.49 | Snotty_ | are there any good tooltip tutorials - I'm trying to get through the wiki pages - but it just wont show |
| 05:04.16 | Snotty_ | sips on half a cup of bone cold coffee |
| 05:16.53 | Ycarene | Anyone use minion to manage addons? |
| 05:18.27 | Ycarene | ... or is that taboo here? |
| 05:18.52 | Thunder_Child | i use minion |
| 05:18.57 | Thunder_Child | and no, it isnt taboo |
| 05:19.12 | amro | minion is illegal! |
| 05:19.19 | amro | third party application zomg |
| 05:19.31 | Ycarene | Is there a central repository for minion mods? |
| 05:19.32 | amro | also it's in java |
| 05:19.44 | Thunder_Child | yes, wowi is the repositroy |
| 05:19.55 | Thunder_Child | tory* |
| 05:20.17 | amro | or do you mean minion modules? |
| 05:20.18 | Ycarene | Well, I mean to get it to look at ace and curse too. |
| 05:20.21 | Ycarene | modules |
| 05:21.01 | amro | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/forumdisplay.php&f=126 is your best bet I think |
| 05:22.45 | amro | googling for shell syntax help is hopeless |
| 05:27.26 | Mr_Rabies | i like minon but it's got problems with 64 bit stuff it seems and i ended up just relenting and getting curse client |
| 05:27.50 | amro | I blame all the java |
| 05:28.11 | Ycarene | How would it have problems with 64 bit? That would be a java problem not isolated to minion. |
| 05:28.32 | Mr_Rabies | it won't install any of my addons, "internal error" every time |
| 05:28.44 | Mr_Rabies | so i just took the easy route and found an alternative |
| 05:29.32 | amro | I still blame java |
| 05:30.19 | durcyn | "saying java is great because it works on all platforms is like saying anal sex is great because it works on all genders" |
| 05:30.24 | durcyn | i love that quote. |
| 05:30.39 | Mr_Rabies | thing is, to some people that's true durcyn D: |
| 05:31.08 | Mr_Rabies | minecraft is written in java and it mostly behaves |
| 05:32.31 | Mr_Rabies | notch is some kind of swedish code robot or something though |
| 05:34.37 | Dagmar | It would proably help if the dipshits in /v/ would hit puberty or something |
| 05:35.20 | Dagmar | Like, how lame can one _get_, DDoSing someone who is pretty much spending all his time trying to get the infrastructure up to speed in the first place |
| 05:37.56 | airtonix | DURCYN! ANAL SEX! |
| 05:37.59 | airtonix | YES! |
| 05:38.20 | amro | okay. |
| 05:38.23 | airtonix | btw i'm not gay |
| 05:38.32 | amro | not that there's anything wrong with that |
| 05:38.35 | amro | but okay. |
| 05:38.43 | airtonix | well no. nothing wrong with being happy |
| 05:38.51 | airtonix | but i'm not homosexual |
| 05:39.32 | airtonix | anyway what's wrong with java? |
| 05:39.49 | Ycarene | Just because other apps "mostly behave" doesn't mean there isn't a problem with your java implementation. |
| 05:41.43 | amro | [06:39] <Ycarene> Just because other apps "mostly behave" doesn't mean there isn't a problem with java |
| 05:41.45 | amro | fixed |
| 05:42.40 | Ycarene | So you're saying that the problem is with the language even though it works on my 64 bit system just fine? |
| 05:42.57 | amro | I'm saying I have a problem with java in general :P |
| 05:43.14 | amro | I just don't trust it |
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| 05:59.04 | mikma | haste: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/10/japans_superior_beer_can_techn.php |
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| 08:22.16 | zenzelezz | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/10/know-your-audience/ |
| 08:26.12 | zenzelezz | "Kalecgos will be the new blue aspect. And just in time." - so the speculation was correct |
| 08:38.02 | kd3|netbook | hokay. back to the hotel room in one piece |
| 08:38.05 | kd3|netbook | zzz |
| 08:42.33 | harl | hallo |
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| 09:54.58 | Flowy | how to add timestamp into combat log? |
| 10:03.05 | Wobin | http://easiersaid.net/?p=314 |
| 10:04.51 | Fisker | one Wobin |
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| 10:07.29 | mikma | flowy: combat log -> settings -> combat -> Formatting -> Show Timestamp |
| 10:09.13 | Fisker | mikma |
| 10:11.58 | Flowy | can I change a variable into function? |
| 10:12.09 | Fisker | ooh |
| 10:12.17 | Fisker | blizzard is encouraging their users to spam the forums |
| 10:12.18 | mikma | flowy: sure |
| 10:14.02 | mikma | flowy: why are you wanting to do it anyway? |
| 10:14.18 | Flowy | want to add a milliseconds into combat log |
| 10:14.22 | Fisker | Flowy |
| 10:14.35 | jnwhiteh | they won't be accurate |
| 10:14.35 | Flowy | /run TEXT_MODE_A_TIMESTAMP = "%H:%M:%SCMBTLOG" |
| 10:14.39 | Flowy | do nothing :/ |
| 10:14.49 | jnwhiteh | so i'm not sure what the point is |
| 10:15.02 | Flowy | jnwhiteh accurate to a real time or what? |
| 10:15.16 | jnwhiteh | the time from the event arguments is all you can count on. |
| 10:15.57 | Flowy | jnwhiteh if a event uses a "formating" string to format a timestamp |
| 10:16.13 | Flowy | then I just need rewrite it and add there my ms |
| 10:16.15 | Flowy | or not? |
| 10:17.14 | Fisker | jnwhiteh teehee |
| 10:17.51 | mikma | well |
| 10:18.05 | mikma | if the game doesn't provide you the milliseconds you are out of luck, like jnwhiteh said |
| 10:19.02 | Flowy | mikma ms info is in GetTime() |
| 10:19.27 | mikma | gonna be horrible if you are gonna call GetTime() with every update combatlog does |
| 10:19.48 | Fisker | sneezes |
| 10:21.46 | Flowy | mikma how much horrible? |
| 10:22.09 | Fisker | sweet |
| 10:22.20 | Fisker | Blizzard's "We don't know" is now "That's a great piece of feedback" |
| 10:22.21 | Fisker | :D |
| 10:22.26 | mikma | flowy: well think about how often the combatlog will update when ie. in raid |
| 10:22.35 | mikma | flowy: then imagine all the updates calling the function to get the MS |
| 10:23.34 | Wobin | http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/the-fine-art-of-dogs-15-photos |
| 10:23.42 | Wobin | I wonder what movement that first dog was making |
| 10:24.11 | mikma | wobin: http://www.break.com/index/ukrainian-parkour-dog-1940068 |
| 10:24.22 | Wobin | mikma: already posted that on FB, geez |
| 10:24.43 | Wobin | best dog ever |
| 10:24.57 | mikma | lolwut U in FB m8 |
| 10:25.11 | mikma | add me so we can chat!!11 |
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| 10:33.28 | Fisker | you killed my keyboard mikma |
| 10:33.54 | mikma | good |
| 10:34.23 | Fisker | that wasn't very nice |
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| 10:36.22 | Cide | hi |
| 10:37.45 | Fisker | i make smelly farts Cide |
| 10:40.10 | Cide | good for you |
| 10:41.22 | Fisker | does foip @ Cide |
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| 10:43.36 | Flowy | what is %Y in date() ? |
| 10:43.43 | Flowy | ah year |
| 10:43.49 | Fisker | there's no %Y in date() |
| 10:44.04 | Cide | www.lmgtfy.com/?q=date+formatting+Y |
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| 10:56.50 | Napoleone | anyone played around with the new blizz hud. at the center of screen |
| 10:57.20 | zenzelezz | "Difficult-to-read fonts make for better learning, according to scientists. The finding is about to be published in the international journal Cognition" o_O |
| 10:59.16 | Napoleone | accordig to scientists with a grudge ;P |
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| 11:14.45 | olafski | mount on my first kill this year.. neat |
| 11:15.32 | unfo- | ;_; |
| 11:15.37 | unfo- | my friend has gotten 2 |
| 11:15.40 | unfo- | i've gotten 0 |
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| 11:17.15 | olafski | from what I read on wowhead, they upped the droprate considerably |
| 11:17.19 | olafski | but that's all guesswork of courser |
| 11:17.20 | olafski | -r |
| 11:17.48 | Napoleone | olafski upped since when? |
| 11:17.57 | olafski | this year I guess |
| 11:18.22 | Napoleone | because i did all of the brewfest direbrews on main, and the one that you get for free the first day before the daily reset.. and i dint get one of the 2 mounts |
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| 11:20.30 | olafski | well I only read about the horseman's mount |
| 11:20.55 | olafski | 11 more mounts to get the dragonhawk.. |
| 11:21.14 | olafski | maybe I should get ARL or something to check which ones I can get :P |
| 11:21.18 | unfo- | i envy people with mains |
| 11:21.24 | olafski | though I probably won't like the answer |
| 11:21.28 | olafski | I don't really have a main |
| 11:21.41 | unfo- | i just have alts of various affections and moods |
| 11:21.43 | unfo- | >_> |
| 11:21.44 | olafski | :) |
| 11:21.57 | MuNk | i want to delay the tooltip on my frame from going instantly what would be best method? |
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| 11:24.50 | olafski | I have at least one of each class unfo- :) |
| 11:26.02 | unfo- | olafski, i have mage and warrior in gift wrap waiting to be opened on the new races |
| 11:26.07 | unfo- | worgen warr and goblin priest |
| 11:26.17 | unfo- | all other classes are at 70, 74 or 80 (mostly 80) |
| 11:26.58 | olafski | :) |
| 11:27.26 | olafski | I have 80 for everything except rogue and warlock, those are both 74.. 2 warriors, 1 of each other class |
| 11:27.38 | olafski | when a char hits 80 I instantly become bored with it |
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| 11:32.50 | Fisker | huge upset olafski |
| 11:40.37 | Napoleone | hmm noone played around with that new centerhud crap that i want to rotate 180 ;P |
| 11:40.59 | zenzelezz | center HUD? |
| 11:41.40 | MuNk | is it possible to prevent another addon form hooking my addons tooltips? |
| 11:41.49 | Napoleone | the new hud they made |
| 11:42.03 | zenzelezz | which HUD? |
| 11:42.32 | Napoleone | Heads up display they made on procs. |
| 11:43.50 | Napoleone | let me upload a ss |
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| 11:44.23 | zenzelezz | no, I see what you mean now |
| 11:44.54 | Napoleone | http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/739/wowscrnshot102210102540.jpg darn |
| 11:44.56 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 11:45.52 | Napoleone | i kinda want to move the top one to the bottom because it overlays nameplates and everything |
| 11:55.33 | Fisker | i hey u |
| 12:02.06 | Cide | that's one ugly ui |
| 12:02.21 | Cide | and by ugly I mean ugliest I've ever seen |
| 12:02.47 | Napoleone | well i have problems with action bars and vehicles. |
| 12:03.14 | zenzelezz | hey, as long as it works for you, that's all that matters |
| 12:03.18 | Napoleone | yep |
| 12:03.52 | Napoleone | so cide. whats soooooo ugly about it? |
| 12:04.18 | Napoleone | one thing i dont like is when people diss and dont explaing why |
| 12:07.32 | Fisker | i've seen worse Cide |
| 12:07.46 | haste | the box around it, the blue thingy that doesn't match anything and how it overlaps the chat, the size of things, how things aren't placed at any aligned fashion |
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| 12:08.29 | haste | the stuff overlapping in the left top corner, how buffs aren't in correct row |
| 12:09.02 | haste | I could go on, but my typing speed is horrid atm |
| 12:09.04 | Fisker | the ridiculously huge buttons |
| 12:09.17 | Fisker | and the messed up viewport |
| 12:09.33 | Napoleone | messed up viewport? |
| 12:11.51 | haste | too much wasted space due to it |
| 12:11.53 | Napoleone | I'm making my UI for scale 1, so everything is freaking huge by default, the chat is a mess to remake, and that is almost the smallest it can be. the overlapping is fixed. framestack i dont control, bottom left needs repositioning yes, hmm that blue crap is BLIZZARDS OWN SHIT, and its way to huge and annoying, the size of the mainmenubar is 1, and i have a problem with when entering vehicles |
| 12:11.54 | Napoleone | and exiting vehicles placement shit. |
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| 12:12.27 | haste | annoyed Napoleone is annoyed |
| 12:12.34 | Napoleone | just at blizzard |
| 12:12.52 | Napoleone | for that huge onscreen thing that is not even click through here. |
| 12:13.27 | Napoleone | CompactRaidFrameContainer filling most of the screen. |
| 12:13.45 | zenzelezz | sorry, I'm confused... if you're annoyed at the size of stuff at UI scale 1, why don't you use a smaller scale? |
| 12:13.52 | haste | your blackbox viewport is filling most of the screen |
| 12:14.04 | Napoleone | can i set the scale of the ui in lua within the mod? |
| 12:14.36 | Napoleone | and I rezised the viewport so i can have shit around and still see it all.. else elements just fills up precious viewspace. |
| 12:15.44 | Napoleone | and its not a blackbox. thats just nothing. ;) |
| 12:15.49 | A-KO | So are there any sites tracking the cataclysm? |
| 12:15.51 | A-KO | right now it's earthquakes |
| 12:15.54 | A-KO | there any visible changes? |
| 12:16.04 | Napoleone | they havent added the fun events yet |
| 12:16.23 | A-KO | ah |
| 12:24.08 | foxlit | A-KO: http://www.wowpedia.org/Timeline_of_pre-Cataclysm_events |
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| 12:31.29 | industrial | sigh~~~ |
| 12:31.36 | industrial | rolling a joint just after showering sucks |
| 12:31.48 | industrial | the paper feels nasty |
| 12:31.49 | Napoleone | any way for me to set ui scale through mod? |
| 12:31.49 | industrial | :P |
| 12:32.02 | haste | !api SetCVar |
| 12:32.02 | lua_bot | SetCVar: Sets the value of a configuration variable (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetCVar) |
| 12:33.45 | Napoleone | thanks |
| 12:34.11 | MuNk | is there a way to detect what line in a gametooltip a mouse is over? |
| 12:35.11 | Jamash | SHAZAM |
| 12:36.03 | haste | MuNk: you can probably iterate over them and use :MouseIsOver() |
| 12:38.07 | MuNk | just though of that infact ^^ but thank |
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| 12:51.00 | MuNk | is there a unsetscript option? |
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| 12:51.26 | zenzelezz | I think you can call SetScript with a nil parameter or something |
| 12:51.30 | zenzelezz | !api SetScript |
| 12:51.30 | lua_bot | ScriptObject:SetScript: Sets the widget's handler function for a script (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScriptObject/SetScript) |
| 12:51.50 | zenzelezz | maybe I'm misremembering |
| 12:52.10 | haste | :SetScript(script, nil) |
| 12:52.21 | MuNk | ty =] |
| 12:55.24 | Flowy | ~pil |
| 12:55.24 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 12:56.44 | haste | pil isn't really related to that |
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| 13:00.14 | Flowy | just getting link |
| 13:00.38 | Flowy | I have string |
| 13:01.01 | Flowy | and array table that contains words |
| 13:01.30 | Flowy | is there way to get that string contains any word from the table without for/while? |
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| 13:04.26 | Flowy | or another question |
| 13:05.16 | Flowy | string:match(pattern) and return <match returns> |
| 13:05.43 | Flowy | can I get returns of last function? |
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| 13:16.58 | haste | Flowy: you can' search within a table without iterating |
| 13:17.16 | cbreak | you can search within a table without iterating |
| 13:17.25 | cbreak | if you treat it like a map or a set data structure |
| 13:17.40 | haste | look at the rest of the question |
| 13:18.17 | haste | I don't understand the math question tho' |
| 13:18.19 | cbreak | sounds like a set is more optimal |
| 13:18.38 | cbreak | also, doesn't lua support a repeat until? |
| 13:18.51 | haste | it does |
| 13:19.02 | cbreak | so if he doesn't want to use a for or while loop... :) |
| 13:19.17 | cbreak | just repeat over the words in the string with a gmatch or what ever |
| 13:19.21 | cbreak | and look them up in your word set |
| 13:19.51 | haste | you can't assign in the evaluation tho' |
| 13:20.04 | haste | so the end result is kinda the same |
| 13:20.25 | cbreak | just assign before the evaluation :) |
| 13:20.46 | haste | which makes it pretty similar to the other statments ;P |
| 13:20.47 | cbreak | (I suppose he has some allergy against the words "for" and "while") |
| 13:21.06 | Flowy | dont need index |
| 13:21.14 | Flowy | = dont want to use him |
| 13:22.11 | haste | don't worry about such optimizations until you have to |
| 13:22.52 | cbreak | start finding a good algorithm before starting to write code |
| 13:23.09 | cbreak | don't worry about code before you have a good architecture/data structure |
| 13:23.31 | cbreak | because changing the architecture after writing code is much more expensive than before. |
| 13:28.28 | Flowy | arg2:gsub(pattern, replace) |
| 13:28.36 | Flowy | it rewrite arg2 or just return something? |
| 13:29.45 | Flowy | if I want to change arg2 then I must do arg2 = arg2:gsub() ? |
| 13:32.11 | haste | yes |
| 13:40.37 | MuNk | im looking over FontString, maybe im look at wrong thing but if you use AddDoubleLine() when you go through each FontString is there a way to see if its on same line as another? |
| 13:42.05 | amro | Cide: halp |
| 13:48.38 | Jamash | hey guise I wrote http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141984 but when I click on the editbox I get no visible text, and when I type the cursor doesn't move |
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| 13:51.01 | Jamash | nevermind |
| 13:51.42 | Jamash | I was using SetFont when I should have been using SetFontObject |
| 14:02.51 | Cide | amro: with what? |
| 14:03.19 | amro | Cide: some win7, I already fixed it |
| 14:03.28 | amro | but now I need to fix console2 |
| 14:03.43 | amro | some win7 thing* |
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| 14:26.53 | Cide | amro: ah |
| 14:31.46 | amro | anyone here using console2/cygwin bash by any chance? |
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| 14:41.11 | nevcairiel | i'm using console2 and mingw bash |
| 14:41.23 | nevcairiel | i have a hate for cygwin |
| 14:43.29 | mikma | l2c |
| 14:43.42 | amro | nevcairiel: i'll give it a try |
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| 14:48.18 | amro | nevcairiel: which elements should I install? or is bash always installed? |
| 14:48.36 | nevcairiel | i usually just take the mingw that comes with msysgit |
| 14:49.07 | nevcairiel | but i think bash is in the base package |
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| 14:57.38 | MoonWitch|Mobile | amro : you get the question if you want to install the GUI as well ... (if I recall correctly that is) |
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| 14:58.24 | MoonWitch|Mobile | and in all honesty, bash is easier than the gui :P |
| 14:58.50 | MuNk | how do you remove color from text? eg the |ffff099878 thing |
| 14:59.31 | nevcairiel | just remove those tags using some string magics |
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| 15:10.35 | amro | MoonWitch|Mobile: still trying to find which file to use, mingw-get is failing atm |
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| 15:12.25 | MuNk | when i do SendChatMesasge("Hey","WHISPER",nil,PlayerName) , it tells me no player 'name' is currently playing. |
| 15:12.28 | MuNk | any ideas? |
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| 15:14.13 | amro | no player 'name' is currently playing |
| 15:16.00 | MuNk | when i do SendChatMesasge("Hey","WHISPER",nil,PlayerName) , it tells me no player '<playername is shown here correctly>' is currently playing. |
| 15:16.02 | Maldivia | you sure the name is correct ? |
| 15:16.08 | MuNk | maybe that explains better ^^ |
| 15:16.13 | MuNk | seams it |
| 15:16.54 | Maldivia | hmm, see what you mean |
| 15:17.14 | nevcairiel | !api SendChatMessage |
| 15:17.15 | lua_bot | SendChatMessage: Sends a chat message (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SendChatMessage) |
| 15:17.24 | MuNk | looks like i needed to do PlayerName:gsub("|r", "") |
| 15:17.37 | nevcairiel | you had escape codes in the name? |
| 15:17.40 | nevcairiel | well that explains it :p |
| 15:17.42 | Maldivia | no working fine here :P |
| 15:18.02 | Maldivia | heh |
| 15:18.11 | MuNk | its working now ^^ yeah i was a plonk i stripped the colour codes forgot about the |r |
| 15:18.11 | Maldivia | you got the player name from a chat link ? |
| 15:19.31 | MuNk | name is from a list on a tooltip |
| 15:19.54 | Maldivia | ok |
| 15:21.00 | Maldivia | would be so much easier if you could access the bank/inv and professions of your alts :P |
| 15:25.08 | Jamash | I use Armory for that (name of an addon, not the blizzard website) |
| 15:25.27 | Jamash | I find it indispensable |
| 15:26.50 | Jamash | I also use TradeSkillInfo |
| 15:30.10 | MuNk | now just to find a chat to open a whisper window without sending a blank message ^^ |
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| 15:39.20 | amro | nevcairiel: I'm getting the same issue with msys-bash, I think it's a console2 bug |
| 15:39.28 | amro | or I'm not setting it up properly |
| 15:39.50 | amro | it only takes one command from me and then ignores all input except for ctrl-c |
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| 15:48.54 | nevcairiel | weird |
| 15:49.01 | nevcairiel | i didnt think there was much of a setup |
| 15:50.43 | amro | nevcairiel: you just set the path right? |
| 15:51.00 | amro | with --login -i |
| 15:51.19 | nevcairiel | i just created a new profile |
| 15:51.24 | nevcairiel | and set as shell |
| 15:51.26 | nevcairiel | "C:\Program Files (x86)\Git\bin\sh.exe --login -i" |
| 15:51.36 | nevcairiel | well, profiles are called "tabs" |
| 15:51.55 | nevcairiel | seems to work fine |
| 15:53.12 | amro | if I set the shell on the tab itself, I can't type anything at all |
| 15:53.57 | amro | if I have it set only on the tab and not the main thing, same thing as before |
| 15:54.05 | amro | I can only execute one command, then it doesn't accept input |
| 15:54.16 | amro | which version of console2 are you using? |
| 15:54.44 | nevcairiel | 2.00.144 |
| 15:54.53 | nevcairiel | havent updated it for quite soem time |
| 15:55.25 | nevcairiel | Like i said, i just created a new "tab" called "bash", set the above string into shell, and just put up a shortcut calling "Console2.exe -t bash" |
| 15:55.40 | nevcairiel | Console.exe, actually |
| 15:55.42 | nevcairiel | but yeah |
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| 16:12.12 | amro | is it just me or is sourceforge getting worse? |
| 16:16.36 | amro | nevcairiel: same story with that version :( |
| 16:16.42 | amro | are you on win7? |
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| 16:28.29 | nevcairiel | amro: yea |
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| 16:37.20 | amro | nevcairiel: can you pastebin your console.xml? |
| 16:37.33 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5670648/this-vending-machine-sells-live-crabs |
| 16:38.20 | nevcairiel | amro: http://pastey.net/141989 |
| 16:38.25 | nevcairiel | dont think there is somethinf weird in there |
| 16:41.58 | Thunder_Child | http://www.microsoft.com/games/en-us/GAMES/Pages/grandtheftautosa.aspx |
| 16:42.38 | Thunder_Child | interesting, windows live is going to be compeating with steam |
| 16:42.43 | Thunder_Child | on their own games.... |
| 16:43.31 | amro | blargh |
| 16:43.33 | Amarande | games sold from both windows live and steam? |
| 16:43.34 | amro | this is driving me mad |
| 16:43.43 | Amarande | c'mon, people will pick steam anyway ... steam is more robust, from what I've seen |
| 16:46.57 | olafski | I'd pick gfwl |
| 16:49.25 | olafski | if san andreas wouldn't suck that is ;) |
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| 16:56.23 | Flowy | what is faster? strmatch or strfind? |
| 16:58.33 | foxlit | insignificant. |
| 16:59.05 | Flowy | ~pil |
| 16:59.06 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 16:59.20 | nevcairiel | Fastest would be plain text mode |
| 16:59.24 | nevcairiel | if you dont need patterns |
| 16:59.36 | Flowy | nevcairiel dont need patterns |
| 16:59.42 | Flowy | how to do it in plain text? |
| 16:59.48 | nevcairiel | read the pil :p |
| 16:59.54 | Flowy | which section? |
| 17:00.04 | nevcairiel | the one on string.match and/or string.find! |
| 17:00.09 | nevcairiel | or rather, read the reference manual |
| 17:00.29 | MoonWitch | and use Find in your browser :) |
| 17:00.46 | Flowy | ok ... there is break for for loop ... is there continue? |
| 17:01.02 | MoonWitch | *comforts Nev |
| 17:01.05 | nevcairiel | no |
| 17:01.29 | nevcairiel | I'm going to get drunk soon, i'm fine :d |
| 17:01.37 | MoonWitch | ah ok |
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| 17:02.15 | MoonWitch | I'm actually considering getting the PIL (the book itself) |
| 17:02.39 | nevcairiel | i have it, but i mostly bought it to show my appreciation to the authors |
| 17:02.53 | MoonWitch | is it very different from the first edition? |
| 17:03.02 | nevcairiel | just updated for new language features |
| 17:03.24 | nevcairiel | i didnt read it thoroughly, i already could speak Lua fluently when i got it :D |
| 17:03.25 | olafski | man I do hope blizzard will add (paid) extra character slots.. wonder which char I will have to delete otherwise +) |
| 17:03.28 | MoonWitch | I don't think i ever fully read it to be honest lol |
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| 17:03.39 | MoonWitch | I really should |
| 17:05.14 | Flowy | olafski there are 10 slots ... why you need more of same class? |
| 17:05.42 | nevcairiel | other server or second account, i don't think they'll incrase the slot account |
| 17:05.52 | nevcairiel | slot count* |
| 17:06.12 | MoonWitch | ok food time for me |
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| 17:06.27 | olafski | flowy: to each his own eh |
| 17:06.36 | olafski | nevcairiel: didn't they hint about adding paid slots? |
| 17:06.47 | nevcairiel | not that i've heard |
| 17:06.50 | olafski | hm |
| 17:07.05 | Flowy | nevcairiel its not in pil :/ |
| 17:07.08 | olafski | I thought there was some survey about like "what would you be willing to pay for" and then a bunch of possible paid services |
| 17:07.14 | olafski | but I guess I'll delete one then |
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| 17:07.19 | Flowy | http://www.lua.org/pil/20.1.html |
| 17:07.57 | Flowy | ok found it |
| 17:08.26 | olafski | nevcairiel: http://vnboards.ign.com/world_of_warcraft_general_board/b19789/113202139/p1/ |
| 17:09.06 | nevcairiel | thats all rumors :d |
| 17:10.05 | olafski | I've seen the survey |
| 17:10.08 | olafski | it was from blizzard.. :) |
| 17:10.23 | olafski | of course it doesn't mean that they will actually do it but at least they considered it |
| 17:11.19 | nevcairiel | I dont think GlueXML has support for scrolling through characters yet |
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| 17:11.26 | nevcairiel | people monitor changes to that :p |
| 17:11.49 | olafski | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/724704-Blizzard-Survey-Remote-AH-Blue-posts |
| 17:11.52 | olafski | there we go |
| 17:12.54 | olafski | I also saw something about online orders being activated on december 7th.. but I still can't find a button to buy cataclysm on battle.net, do I have to order it from some store? :< |
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| 17:14.02 | amro | you can buy it on the bnet store after release |
| 17:15.12 | nevcairiel | according to yesterday, they'll also have preorders, and unlock at midnight |
| 17:15.21 | nevcairiel | just not up ye |
| 17:15.22 | nevcairiel | *yet |
| 17:15.48 | nevcairiel | mike himself said it! |
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| 17:16.35 | olafski | I'll wait then =) |
| 17:16.43 | Pneumatus | yeh, they said it would be available to pre-order and pre-download so you have the expansion the second they flip the switch |
| 17:18.26 | olafski | sounds like the way I like it :) |
| 17:18.34 | amro | you can always predownload |
| 17:18.36 | olafski | I better figure out which char to delete before that day |
| 17:18.39 | amro | regardless of purchase |
| 17:19.17 | olafski | though I'll probably level archaeology on my "main" first =) |
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| 17:21.33 | amro | nevcairiel: fixed it |
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| 17:21.50 | amro | it was a bug fixedin 145, but apparently regressed in 146 |
| 17:21.53 | amro | files a report |
| 17:22.00 | Flowy | nevcairiel what am I looking for? |
| 17:22.36 | amro | the truth? |
| 17:22.52 | haste | 42 |
| 17:23.02 | Flowy | how to find a word in a string without strfind? |
| 17:23.14 | amro | why don't you want to use strfind? |
| 17:23.34 | Flowy | 185918 nevcairiel : Fastest would be plain text mode |
| 17:23.44 | haste | you can do that with string.find |
| 17:23.54 | amro | as in not using a pattern |
| 17:23.54 | haste | !api string.find |
| 17:23.54 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'string.find' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.find |
| 17:24.09 | amro | and you shouldn't be worried about speed |
| 17:24.30 | amro | unless you're parsing 1mb of data per second |
| 17:25.07 | Flowy | http://paste.wowace.com/2675/ |
| 17:25.15 | Flowy | this reduce my fps by 5 ... |
| 17:25.20 | Mirrormn | lua doesn't have the best string access methods anyway so I expect trying to look through your string manually would actually be slower |
| 17:25.35 | amro | erm |
| 17:25.41 | amro | are you running it on OnUpdate? |
| 17:25.46 | Flowy | no |
| 17:25.50 | Flowy | just on message |
| 17:26.24 | amro | that doesn't evne look right |
| 17:26.26 | amro | no conditional? |
| 17:26.30 | amro | paste the whole thing |
| 17:26.37 | Mirrormn | just |
| 17:26.39 | Mirrormn | "if" |
| 17:27.01 | amro | is that even valid? |
| 17:27.24 | Mirrormn | doubt it |
| 17:27.29 | Flowy | http://paste.wowace.com/2676/ |
| 17:27.31 | Mirrormn | although "if then" *might* work |
| 17:27.34 | Flowy | this is all the addon |
| 17:28.00 | Flowy | what is "conditional" ? |
| 17:29.06 | Mirrormn | actually now that I look at it, that "if" doesn't even have a matching "end" |
| 17:29.47 | Flowy | hmm really x) |
| 17:29.57 | Flowy | wait I will try it with end |
| 17:30.44 | Flowy | ah |
| 17:31.00 | amro | line 8 |
| 17:31.07 | amro | whatever it is, it's not doing what you expect |
| 17:31.09 | Flowy | the "if" is just my new idea ... its running without it and reducing fps by 5 |
| 17:31.12 | amro | I have no clue what it's doing |
| 17:31.13 | p3lim | looking for a jquery plugin to append a body onto a page, anyone know any? |
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| 17:31.42 | Flowy | amro yes it is not loaded in this form ... |
| 17:31.44 | p3lim | or generate content based on values from dropdowns (which is what I currently have) |
| 17:31.56 | amro | I don't know, you should look into how filters work |
| 17:32.03 | amro | maybe it's getting called more often than it should |
| 17:32.33 | Flowy | its called one time per line and one time per chatframe |
| 17:32.42 | Flowy | i have 4 chatframes ... its called 4 times per line |
| 17:32.47 | amro | yes but how often? |
| 17:32.54 | Flowy | per one message |
| 17:32.55 | amro | as in, does it get called again for everything every new message? |
| 17:33.12 | amro | I just don't see how it can consistently reduce your fps |
| 17:33.16 | amro | unless it's getting called *all* the time |
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| 17:33.33 | Flowy | moment I try to remove the gsub |
| 17:33.43 | Flowy | I think that this is issue |
| 17:34.31 | Flowy | have 36-38 fps in ironforge |
| 17:34.35 | Flowy | without addon |
| 17:35.23 | Flowy | with addon without gsub its same |
| 17:36.02 | Flowy | with gsub its 29-34 |
| 17:37.43 | Flowy | I have idea about using strsplit on a string and comparing each item in list with my table |
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| 17:44.54 | amro | still doesn't make sense |
| 17:44.59 | amro | it should not be a consistent drop |
| 17:45.50 | Flowy | "consistent drop" ? |
| 17:45.56 | amro | in fps |
| 17:46.15 | amro | if you get 5fps less it means the function is getting called constantly |
| 17:46.35 | amro | if it's a filter, it should only be getting called every now and then, resulting in fluctuating FPS |
| 17:47.17 | Flowy | Im using a fps meter from default ui |
| 17:49.07 | foxlit | Did you enable Lua errors? |
| 17:49.20 | Flowy | yes |
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| 18:08.52 | kd3|netbook | ponders at the front page |
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| 18:10.46 | kd3|netbook | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/f25a7760d37777679b1e7cbbfa2a838d.png |
| 18:12.22 | Cide | nonononono |
| 18:12.26 | Cide | keep it white |
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| 18:12.45 | Cide | it looked 10x more proffessional |
| 18:12.55 | kd3|netbook | blah, wrong window >.< |
| 18:15.37 | amro | Cide: l2preferences |
| 18:15.44 | Cide | no |
| 18:15.48 | Cide | l2properdefaults |
| 18:15.55 | amro | these are proper defaults |
| 18:15.58 | Cide | no_ |
| 18:15.59 | Cide | ? |
| 18:16.01 | Cide | white is much better |
| 18:16.01 | amro | yes |
| 18:16.04 | Cide | thus it should be the default |
| 18:16.16 | foxlit | Hey Cide, go make a topic about it :) |
| 18:16.17 | amro | there's really no basis for argument here |
| 18:16.25 | kd3|netbook | log in, special preferences, we've left the default vector skin as an option |
| 18:16.28 | Cide | it's subjective but I think people agree with me |
| 18:16.32 | Cide | ... |
| 18:16.35 | amro | I doubt that |
| 18:16.35 | Cide | it's not about having it as an option |
| 18:16.45 | Cide | it's about making the default look good |
| 18:16.49 | amro | all everyone was saying before the skin was up was "GIEF SKIN NAO" |
| 18:17.03 | Cide | everyone eh |
| 18:17.05 | Cide | I doubt that |
| 18:17.18 | foxlit | [To be fair, I've also thrown in some changes for vector] |
| 18:17.41 | amro | I personally think the dark theme is a much better fit |
| 18:17.49 | amro | unless you want to be thottbot |
| 18:17.52 | amro | and fail at everything |
| 18:18.01 | Cide | clearly light implies fugly |
| 18:18.08 | amro | no |
| 18:18.09 | Cide | your reasoning is flawed |
| 18:18.14 | amro | light doesn't fit warcraft |
| 18:18.41 | amro | it's like a kindergarten having a dark emogoth webpage |
| 18:18.42 | Cide | oh really |
| 18:19.01 | Cide | is that why the worldofwarcraft.com page is pretty light |
| 18:19.18 | amro | it's nowhere near as light as vector |
| 18:19.21 | amro | not even close |
| 18:19.30 | Cide | didn't say that |
| 18:19.43 | Cide | vector just looks a ton more professional |
| 18:19.46 | amro | point is it fits, white does not |
| 18:19.50 | Cide | oh |
| 18:20.01 | Cide | didn't know you had an objective opinion about subjective subjects |
| 18:20.18 | amro | where did I say this was objective? |
| 18:20.25 | Cide | "point is it fits, white does not" |
| 18:20.29 | Cide | doesn't really sound subjective does it? |
| 18:20.40 | amro | do I really have to preface everything with "I think" |
| 18:20.42 | amro | besides |
| 18:20.45 | amro | [19:16] <amro> there's really no basis for argument here |
| 18:20.47 | Cide | if it's your opinion then yes |
| 18:20.49 | amro | I made it clear this isn't objective |
| 18:20.57 | amro | my name is before everything I say on irc |
| 18:21.08 | amro | everything I say is my opinion unless I explicitly claim it's a fact |
| 18:21.09 | Cide | that means you're uttering it, not that it's your opinion |
| 18:21.12 | amro | stop finding reasons to argue |
| 18:21.13 | Cide | if I state a fact it's not subjective |
| 18:21.19 | Cide | you're making stupid points |
| 18:21.26 | Cide | I agree that it's subjective but I argue that white is better |
| 18:21.28 | amro | you're being a dick for the sake of being a dick |
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| 18:21.33 | amro | and it's really annoying |
| 18:21.38 | amro | find someone else to badger |
| 18:21.40 | Cide | you think that every time I voice an opinion |
| 18:21.46 | Cide | stop picking the argument then |
| 18:21.46 | amro | no |
| 18:21.49 | Cide | yes you do |
| 18:21.49 | amro | you don't voice an opinion |
| 18:21.53 | amro | you maul people for disagreeing |
| 18:21.57 | Cide | (18:21:25) Cide: I agree that it's subjective but I argue that white is better |
| 18:22.13 | amro | this is getting knowhere |
| 18:22.15 | amro | wow |
| 18:22.16 | amro | that was bad |
| 18:22.18 | Cide | (18:16:27) Cide: it's subjective but I think people agree with me |
| 18:22.21 | Cide | etc |
| 18:22.26 | amro | and i said I think people don't |
| 18:22.34 | Cide | and then you said you were right and I was wrong |
| 18:22.37 | amro | and then all of a sudden you claim that I'm stating it as objective fact |
| 18:22.48 | Cide | regardless whether or not you did |
| 18:22.52 | amro | that's what I think, yes. I clearly don't think that I'm wrong and you're right |
| 18:22.56 | amro | or I'd have changed my stance |
| 18:23.03 | amro | stop being so damn petty |
| 18:23.44 | Cide | stop calling me a dick for differing between messages stated as opinions and messages stated as facts? |
| 18:24.05 | amro | you're assuming I'ms tating them as fact |
| 18:24.14 | Cide | that's not an assumption |
| 18:24.17 | amro | it is |
| 18:24.28 | Amarande | ok that was a waste of eight perfectly good minutes |
| 18:24.39 | Cide | it's a very clear distinction between citing something as a fact and between arguing an opinion |
| 18:24.40 | amro | I'm not going to preface every thing I say with "It is my humble and subjective opinion that" |
| 18:24.53 | Cide | you can start with "I think" or end with "in my opinion" or tons of other options |
| 18:24.56 | amro | at the very beginning, I clearly stated there was no basis for objective argument |
| 18:24.57 | Amarande | flew to UC to drop off a quest, then hearthed back to Kargath thinking to move on to SoS, forgetting that *you really can't get to SoS at 43 from Badlands without going BACK to UC and taking the zepp to Grom'gol ...* |
| 18:24.59 | amro | we're discussing colors |
| 18:25.02 | Cide | don't have to be that formal if it's obvious |
| 18:25.06 | amro | and you claiming I'm stating facts |
| 18:25.10 | amro | it is fucking obvious |
| 18:25.13 | amro | we're talking about COLORS |
| 18:25.18 | amro | clearly it's fucking subjective |
| 18:25.28 | Cide | it should be |
| 18:25.33 | Cide | so why are you arguing so strongly against me? |
| 18:25.48 | amro | I'm not, I was just stating my thoughts |
| 18:25.59 | amro | that black is a better fit, whether it's more professional or not |
| 18:26.05 | amro | feel free to disagree |
| 18:26.07 | Cide | I think you should poll people for what they prefer if you are to back up "I think most people think black is better" |
| 18:26.14 | Amarande | I've never quite understood why some things are considered professional |
| 18:26.15 | Amarande | Ties, for instance. |
| 18:26.20 | Amarande | What practical purpose does a tie SERVE? |
| 18:26.33 | Cide | it looks formal? |
| 18:26.35 | amro | Cide: I said most people I know wanted the dark theme, in fact you're the first one I see not liking it |
| 18:26.44 | amro | forgive me for not bringing charts and fucking graphs |
| 18:26.49 | Cide | I forgive you |
| 18:26.54 | amro | now |
| 18:27.03 | amro | you go bring a fucking piechart showing people like white better, or leave me alone |
| 18:27.12 | Cide | I don't have access to the site do I? |
| 18:27.28 | Cide | and I don't use wowwiki/wowpedia/whatever, so I have no reason to |
| 18:27.44 | Cide | if you're remaking the design you should responsibly care about that yourself though |
| 18:27.45 | amro | even more reason for you to stop talking right now about a userbase you know nothing about |
| 18:27.58 | Cide | I know nothing about wow players now? |
| 18:28.06 | amro | wowwiki users |
| 18:28.11 | Cide | are the two really that distinct? |
| 18:28.30 | amro | if they're not, you shouldn't use "I don't use wowwiki" as an excuse |
| 18:28.42 | amro | this is so damn pointless |
| 18:28.46 | Cide | I'm saying that in the final sense I don't really care about the design |
| 18:28.49 | Cide | I just voiced my opinion about it |
| 18:28.53 | amro | and I voiced mine |
| 18:28.57 | amro | it should be a done deal |
| 18:28.57 | Cide | if you do care about the design you should get feedback from more people |
| 18:29.05 | amro | stop badgering people about their opinoins |
| 18:29.09 | Cide | you're mad |
| 18:29.14 | Cide | I voiced my opinion |
| 18:29.20 | Cide | you should take that as feedback, not counter my argument |
| 18:29.24 | Cide | I've asked this channel for feedback on a ton of things regarding my new site |
| 18:29.30 | amro | [19:20] <Cide> didn't know you had an objective opinion about subjective subjects |
| 18:29.32 | Cide | I went through tens of iterations on a ton of things |
| 18:29.35 | amro | that's not feedback |
| 18:29.39 | amro | that's close to a personal attack |
| 18:29.48 | Cide | hold on |
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| 18:30.18 | industrial | look at the dps printout http://images.gammatester.com/pics/4cd5a866e805dce66b07f6c063345f90.jpg |
| 18:30.21 | industrial | xD |
| 18:30.22 | Cide | (18:21:27) amro: you're being a dick for the sake of being a dick |
| 18:30.26 | industrial | warrior = insane right now |
| 18:30.27 | Cide | that's a personal attack |
| 18:30.38 | industrial | its just execute, victory rush, mortal strike |
| 18:30.43 | Cide | and regardless that was several minutes after you started arguing with me |
| 18:30.53 | Cide | I think white is better. |
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| 18:31.07 | amro | good for you |
| 18:31.09 | Cide | if I was given that information I would ask more people, not jump on them "but I think black is better!" |
| 18:31.24 | amro | I didn't jump on you at all |
| 18:31.25 | Cide | when I did the design of tabs we went through like 15 iterations of red alone |
| 18:31.38 | Cide | (18:15:36) amro: Cide: l2preferences |
| 18:31.54 | amro | oh for fuck's sake learn to take a joke |
| 18:31.59 | Cide | just saying |
| 18:32.03 | amro | so damn tense and serious all the time |
| 18:32.08 | amro | relax a little |
| 18:32.10 | Cide | you didn't once accept my opinion as feedback |
| 18:32.13 | Cide | I'm very relaxed :) |
| 18:32.24 | amro | I didn't do the design |
| 18:32.25 | Cide | in fact |
| 18:32.30 | amro | I just said that I like the dark theme |
| 18:32.38 | Cide | and "it's the proper default" |
| 18:32.38 | amro | and that I think it's a better default |
| 18:33.01 | amro | and you said it's not |
| 18:33.06 | Cide | aye |
| 18:33.16 | amro | it should have ended right there |
| 18:33.17 | Cide | a lot of the times I argue I get told that I should relax which is quite funny |
| 18:33.20 | Cide | no |
| 18:33.35 | amro | so... |
| 18:33.44 | amro | when someone says they like blue, and you don't like blue, you don't stop there? |
| 18:33.46 | amro | you argue about it? |
| 18:33.54 | Cide | no, if it's regarding a design I'll try it out |
| 18:33.57 | Cide | or ask other people |
| 18:34.02 | amro | this is not the case here |
| 18:34.07 | Cide | no, I can tell |
| 18:34.11 | amro | I'm not in charge of the design at wowpedia |
| 18:34.14 | Cide | you have not once admitted my suggestion is at least reasonable |
| 18:34.30 | amro | I never said it was unreasonable |
| 18:34.40 | Cide | you just didn't approve |
| 18:34.57 | amro | do I have to? |
| 18:35.03 | amro | it's about _COLORS_ for god's sake |
| 18:35.05 | Cide | did you know google took in 150 people to check if the search button should be blue or not? |
| 18:35.19 | Cide | (turns out it shouldn't be) |
| 18:35.22 | amro | for the last time I'm not designing that skin |
| 18:35.29 | p3lim | in a dropdown (<select> in html), can I hide a menu entry? |
| 18:35.32 | amro | as a user, I like it better than the light version |
| 18:35.35 | amro | as a USER |
| 18:35.37 | Cide | then why are you so strongly arguing it's the proper default if it's not your table? |
| 18:35.45 | amro | I wasn't arguing strongly at all |
| 18:35.50 | Cide | quite |
| 18:35.59 | Cide | but ok |
| 18:36.05 | Cide | I know to ignore your opinion on the matter then |
| 18:36.06 | amro | you brought up that objective thing and that pissed me off |
| 18:36.29 | Cide | can someone who is responsible for the wowpedia design look into checking what design users prefer? |
| 18:38.37 | amro | try in #wowpedia |
| 18:38.56 | Cide | don't care enough really, I figured since kd3 posted in here |
| 18:39.20 | kd3|netbook | because I was in the wrong channel |
| 18:39.21 | amro | yeah, you don't care enough, but your suggestion that white should be default is far more credible than mine |
| 18:39.23 | amro | sigh |
| 18:39.28 | Cide | oh no |
| 18:39.32 | Cide | it's not more credible at all |
| 18:39.40 | amro | [19:36] <Cide> I know to ignore your opinion on the matter then |
| 18:39.48 | Cide | because you don't have decision making powers |
| 18:39.52 | Cide | not because your opinion is useless |
| 18:40.13 | amro | are you requesting that it use the white skin or what? |
| 18:40.20 | Cide | I just think that I have a good sense of design so I'd be willing to guess that people agree with me (not saying the majority will though, which is why it requires more people to voice their opinions) |
| 18:40.31 | Cide | well I personally think so but that depends on what most people believe of course |
| 18:40.40 | amro | right, so why did you flip out when I voiced a dissenting view? |
| 18:40.48 | amro | maybe you're the one who's not taking feedback |
| 18:40.50 | Cide | because you argued as if it was fact |
| 18:40.54 | amro | no I did not |
| 18:41.00 | Cide | I believe you did anyway |
| 18:41.02 | amro | I explicitly stated that there was no basis for argument there |
| 18:41.11 | amro | believe what you will, doesn't make it true |
| 18:41.20 | Cide | look at me, we can always argue :P |
| 18:41.27 | Cide | and arguing about subjective things is perfectly normal |
| 18:41.38 | amro | it's normal when both parties are on the same page |
| 18:41.38 | Cide | in fact you can't argue about objective things |
| 18:41.43 | Cide | why would you argue then? |
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| 18:42.13 | Cide | regardless |
| 18:42.41 | Cide | I just think that white is better looking and the wowpedia people should see which one people truly prefer |
| 18:43.07 | amro | you think they didn't put any thought into it? |
| 18:43.13 | Cide | I don't know |
| 18:43.25 | Cide | if they just put the old design up (more or less) I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't |
| 18:43.47 | amro | it's a wiki, if people wanted a different skin there would be a different skin |
| 18:43.54 | amro | in fact, skin is the reason for the split |
| 18:44.13 | Cide | that's a stupid argument because the most liked option should be the default |
| 18:44.28 | amro | did you just read what I said? |
| 18:44.31 | Cide | yes |
| 18:44.35 | amro | if people wanted a different default, they would have one |
| 18:44.42 | Cide | I don't follow |
| 18:44.53 | Cide | I don't think anyone can go in and edit the default skin to vector |
| 18:45.07 | amro | no, but they can go in and start a discussion that it should be vector |
| 18:45.15 | amro | and if there's consensus, it will be switched to vector |
| 18:45.34 | Cide | so you're arguing that the users should be the forefront figures to every website's redesigning? |
| 18:45.44 | amro | don't extrapolate |
| 18:45.46 | Cide | if you're making a new website you should poll the users initially |
| 18:45.47 | amro | we're talking about a wiki here |
| 18:46.06 | Cide | a vast majority of the people don't know about the different skins |
| 18:46.07 | amro | it's not a new website |
| 18:46.15 | Cide | it's not a fair poll if you don't provide both alternatives equally |
| 18:46.25 | amro | what's not a fair poll? |
| 18:46.31 | mitchnull | amro: don't (try to) argue with cide. usually pointless |
| 18:46.41 | mitchnull | just a friendly advice from personal experience ;) |
| 18:46.45 | amro | anyone, at any point, can start a discussion that says "I don't think this skin should be default" |
| 18:46.48 | Cide | "hey guys, do you prefer this skin which is in use by default and 99% of you know already, or this one which none of you use but it a different color?" |
| 18:46.53 | amro | you can go ahead and start it now |
| 18:47.07 | amro | that's so fucking pointless cide |
| 18:47.16 | amro | are you advocating skin rights or something? |
| 18:47.19 | Cide | no |
| 18:47.25 | Cide | I'm arguing a poll should include fair questions |
| 18:47.32 | amro | there was no poll what are you on? |
| 18:47.42 | Cide | the hypothetical one you are suggesting I make |
| 18:47.50 | amro | I didn't suggest you make a poll |
| 18:47.53 | amro | I suggested you start a discussion |
| 18:47.55 | Cide | or discussion |
| 18:48.00 | amro | obviously you don't have a clue how wikis work |
| 18:48.05 | Cide | I do |
| 18:48.10 | Cide | if the default skin was white nobody would bother to make a discussion/poll either is my guess |
| 18:48.15 | Cide | about making it black |
| 18:48.15 | amro | if you did, we wouldn't have this discussion |
| 18:48.20 | amro | yes they would |
| 18:48.23 | Cide | because someone posted a screenshot |
| 18:48.25 | amro | I would have if nobody else did at least |
| 18:48.54 | Cide | I just don't get why you oppose asking the userbase which one they prefer before you establish a default |
| 18:49.02 | Cide | which lots of people will prefer simply because it is the default |
| 18:49.11 | amro | because it's been the damned default for 6 years |
| 18:49.17 | amro | it's not a new fucking website |
| 18:49.22 | Cide | but it's changing name |
| 18:49.29 | amro | so? |
| 18:49.35 | Cide | and it was white a week ago which was how I noticed it |
| 18:49.37 | amro | it's still the same editors |
| 18:49.39 | Cide | and how much better it looked imo |
| 18:49.56 | Cide | I'm quite an active user and I have never changed the skin of wowwiki |
| 18:50.02 | Cide | active user of wowwiki that is |
| 18:50.05 | kd3|netbook | so log in and make it your default in preferences? we were in the middle of making the dark skin last week |
| 18:50.09 | amro | it's not my problem if you lack imagination |
| 18:50.12 | kd3|netbook | the white skin is still there |
| 18:50.16 | Cide | yes... |
| 18:50.26 | Cide | my point is that if most people prefer white the default should be white |
| 18:50.32 | Cide | and registration is annoying imo |
| 18:50.33 | amro | yes, if |
| 18:50.38 | Cide | yes, if |
| 18:50.41 | kd3|netbook | then start a forum post looking for consensus |
| 18:50.43 | amro | ^ |
| 18:50.56 | Cide | or just ask people since you just developed a new skin |
| 18:51.04 | Cide | I don't *bother* enough to start a forum post |
| 18:51.04 | mitchnull | white sux |
| 18:51.06 | mitchnull | there |
| 18:51.07 | mitchnull | :P |
| 18:51.09 | Cide | stop being stupid |
| 18:51.19 | Cide | I just think it's good practice to do so before you establish a default |
| 18:51.31 | amro | you're not making sense |
| 18:51.34 | Cide | but since I don't care about it enough and you obviously don't think that's good practice then don't do it |
| 18:51.35 | kd3|netbook | the default has always been the dark skin? |
| 18:51.38 | amro | ^ |
| 18:51.55 | Cide | true, but you said you were in the process of making it a week ago |
| 18:52.02 | Cide | that's what I mean by introducing it |
| 18:52.11 | amro | the wiki wasn't even launched a week ago |
| 18:52.18 | amro | it was launched with the dark theme after it was completed |
| 18:52.18 | Cide | well 4 days then? |
| 18:52.19 | kd3|netbook | we were making a dark version of vector. just like we had to make dark versions of the new skins on wikia before we left |
| 18:52.20 | Cide | you're focusing on specifics |
| 18:52.27 | Cide | I got linked wowpedia when it was white |
| 18:52.46 | amro | yeah, and I got linked wowpedia when it was a parked domain name |
| 18:52.56 | Cide | so don't argue that "it wasn't even launched a week ago" then |
| 18:53.04 | amro | that wasn't an argument |
| 18:53.07 | kd3|netbook | because it wasn't. we're still not launched |
| 18:53.09 | Thunder_Child | Back > White. just leave it at that |
| 18:53.11 | mitchnull | it still is |
| 18:53.14 | Cide | what I don't get though is why you didn't bother asking users if they prefer white and instead just go with the "tried and true" as if it's obviously true |
| 18:53.17 | amro | you were not supposed to see it as white |
| 18:53.21 | Cide | exactly |
| 18:53.24 | Cide | why not? |
| 18:53.31 | amro | okay |
| 18:53.33 | amro | basically |
| 18:53.42 | amro | what you're suggesting now is that wikipedia should have a poll on switching to a dark themee |
| 18:53.48 | amro | that's what you're saying |
| 18:54.08 | Cide | no, since I think the white is much better |
| 18:54.31 | Cide | but I'm betting they had a ton of design iterations before they settled on a default, including tons of user studies |
| 18:54.40 | Cide | if you did that too then I'll stop bothering you but it seems to me you didn't |
| 18:55.01 | Cide | and if you refuse to do so simply because you know black is better then that's ultimately fine too, I'll just think it's a stupid way to go about |
| 18:55.24 | Cide | I don't see what's hard to get |
| 18:55.26 | amro | erm |
| 18:55.37 | Cide | I think white is better and I don't get why there hasn't been at least a discussion about using it as a default |
| 18:55.44 | amro | what's hard to get is why put something to the vote when there's no sign of disagreement |
| 18:56.00 | Cide | how do you know if you haven't asked a wide variety of users? |
| 18:56.02 | amro | if you posted on the forum now, there would be a discussion like you're asking for |
| 18:56.05 | Cide | you've asked your friends |
| 18:56.14 | Cide | but it's not my responsibility. I'm not designing the site. |
| 18:56.15 | amro | because you can't work proactively |
| 18:56.18 | Cide | and I don't care enough to do so |
| 18:56.26 | Cide | every design should be iterated upon |
| 18:56.29 | Cide | look at what google does |
| 18:56.33 | Cide | 150 users to check the color of a button |
| 18:56.43 | Cide | ^ unreasonable for your scale but still, the point applies |
| 18:56.51 | Cide | now I'ma fk |
| 18:56.54 | amro | yes, you're right, volunteers should devote as much resources as a giant corporation |
| 18:56.54 | Cide | now I'm afk* |
| 18:57.00 | Cide | read above |
| 18:57.05 | amro | yes |
| 18:57.14 | amro | the scale at wowwiki's level is "don't bother unless someone asks" |
| 18:57.24 | Cide | is that why you implemented the black design over the default? |
| 18:57.29 | Cide | without anyone asking seemingly |
| 18:57.38 | amro | yeah, because as far as I know, nobody ever said anything different |
| 18:57.47 | Cide | you spent time and resources on porting the theme |
| 18:58.03 | amro | yeah, and there wasn't any time left to do a user study |
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| 18:58.11 | Cide | it should have been done before |
| 18:58.16 | amro | pfft |
| 18:58.17 | Cide | in my opinion |
| 18:58.22 | amro | that's just crazy talk |
| 18:58.28 | Cide | haha |
| 18:58.41 | amro | if you knew the time scale for this change you'd also agree it's crazy talk |
| 18:59.01 | Thunder_Child | i'm rather in agreement with Cide here, it wouls seem to be smarter if doing something to ask first, doesnt take much time, and less money, and it might save you some |
| 18:59.05 | Cide | it's crazy talk to ask users before you implement something such as *a new big design*? |
| 18:59.08 | Thunder_Child | would* |
| 18:59.16 | amro | it's not a new big design |
| 18:59.18 | Cide | and by *a new big design* I mean something that you spent time doing, not something that hadn't been done before |
| 18:59.22 | amro | it looks a lot like the old wiki |
| 18:59.32 | Cide | yes, but you spent a lot of time implementing it |
| 18:59.44 | amro | leaving no time for your user study |
| 18:59.50 | Cide | it *should have been done before* |
| 18:59.56 | amro | it's a volunteer project |
| 18:59.58 | amro | a wiki |
| 19:00.08 | Cide | on a larger scale that's like spending a million dollars and then going "oh, I guess people don't like this" |
| 19:00.20 | amro | but it's not |
| 19:00.22 | Cide | if you implement a design |
| 19:00.24 | amro | it's people doing things in their spare time |
| 19:00.25 | Cide | you do iterations |
| 19:00.26 | Cide | and ask people |
| 19:00.32 | Cide | and do more iterations |
| 19:00.39 | Cide | it's the way you go about design period |
| 19:00.42 | amro | people were asked |
| 19:00.43 | amro | just not you |
| 19:00.48 | Cide | well there you go then |
| 19:00.52 | Cide | not once have you admitted to that |
| 19:00.58 | Cide | now, afk |
| 19:01.11 | amro | good |
| 19:01.53 | amro | you're acting as if in fact most people are desperate for the white skin and this was some huge mistake |
| 19:02.31 | olafski | this looks like an interesting fight |
| 19:02.40 | olafski | if only I could see both sides ;-) |
| 19:04.58 | Flowy | how to find a word in a string case insensitive without changing the string or word? |
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| 19:08.12 | mitchnull | copy string, copy word, tolower both, find |
| 19:09.15 | Flowy | is there a easier way? |
| 19:09.36 | Flowy | *any |
| 19:09.43 | olafski | that doesn't sound too difficult |
| 19:10.14 | Flowy | there might be a problem |
| 19:10.30 | Flowy | if I want to replace the word |
| 19:10.42 | Flowy | and there is more occurence in a string |
| 19:11.31 | olafski | you said find, not replace :P |
| 19:11.44 | Flowy | but now replace :D |
| 19:12.10 | Flowy | have idea about making pattern with sets from word |
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| 19:12.25 | mitchnull | create a func that does one replace returning true iff it did replace something |
| 19:12.44 | mitchnull | create another one that calls this one while it returns true |
| 19:13.19 | amro | Flowy: read the manual, it's all there |
| 19:13.56 | Flowy | amro you mean the function or how to make strfind case insensitive? |
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| 19:15.44 | amro | [20:12] <Flowy> have idea about making pattern with sets from word |
| 19:16.02 | amro | as for case insensitive, that's something you should have googled |
| 19:16.51 | amro | incidentally, it would have led you back to PIL |
| 19:17.53 | Flowy | amro> PIL ~= manual |
| 19:19.21 | Jamash | Flowy: just as good as |
| 19:19.51 | Flowy | Jamash: dont understand this |
| 19:20.14 | Jamash | Flowy: <PIL is> just as good as <the manual> |
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| 19:25.11 | Ketho | Flowy: I use this for case insenstive patterns .. |
| 19:25.12 | Ketho | gsub(s, "[Ss][Tt][Rr][Ii][Nn][Gg]", replace) |
| 19:25.54 | Amarande | hmm, is there an addon that databases super rare drops like the dragon whelp minipets and adds that fact to the tooltips of mobs that drop them? |
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| 19:27.06 | Flowy | Ketho yes this is what about I was thinking but for my case it is better to operate with string |
| 19:27.36 | Ketho | "operate with string"? dont understand .. |
| 19:29.02 | Flowy | dummystring = string:lower() ... find there and change original string by find returns |
| 19:31.00 | Ketho | .. I dont see how string.gsub is different >< |
| 19:31.37 | Ketho | i mean. its the same thing right? replace patterns, or first find then replace |
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| 19:32.48 | Flowy | I have saved patterns like table indexes |
| 19:32.55 | Flowy | cant have [] there |
| 19:33.08 | MoonWitch | You drunk yet, nevcairiel? |
| 19:33.56 | Ketho | Flowy: i dont know anything about "saved patterns", good luck then :( |
| 19:34.01 | amro | Flowy: for that matter, the second result is the manul |
| 19:34.01 | kd3|netbook | sure you can. escape them. \[ |
| 19:34.03 | amro | manual |
| 19:34.12 | zenzelezz | http://news.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/23/political-pictures-judo-putin/ |
| 19:35.05 | amro | is it possible to simulate in-game events? other than calling a frame's handler directly |
| 19:35.47 | Ketho | but i thought in e.g. this pattern: "[Ss][Tt][Rr]" it will find any combination of it: StR, STr, str, STR, etc |
| 19:36.05 | Ketho | no need to escape the [] |
| 19:36.26 | Flowy | lua> t = { ["\[index\]"] = "string" }; return t["\[indes\]"] |
| 19:36.26 | lua_bot | Flowy: nil |
| 19:36.42 | amro | Amarande: not that I know of but that sounds like a nifty addon |
| 19:37.09 | amro | Ketho: yes, he meant you can escape them if you want to match them literally |
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| 19:37.14 | Ketho | hm let me try that lua_bot too :) |
| 19:37.36 | amro | Flowy: what are you trying to do there? |
| 19:38.07 | amro | you only need to escape brackets within patterns |
| 19:38.10 | Flowy | I have saved patterns like a index in table |
| 19:38.49 | amro | you only need to escaep the brackets if you want to match them literally |
| 19:39.01 | Ketho | lua> gsub("tEsTsTrING", "[Tt][Ee][Ss][Tt][Ss][Tt][Rr][Ii][Nn][Gg]", "TESTstring") |
| 19:39.01 | lua_bot | Ketho: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'gsub' (a nil value) |
| 19:39.04 | amro | if you want to use them in the other sense, there's obviously no need to escape |
| 19:39.26 | Ketho | lua> string.gsub("tEsTsTrING", "[Tt][Ee][Ss][Tt][Ss][Tt][Rr][Ii][Nn][Gg]", "TESTstring") |
| 19:39.26 | lua_bot | Ketho: TESTstring, 1 |
| 19:39.44 | Flowy | lua> t = { ["[index]"] = "string" }; return t["[indes]"] |
| 19:39.44 | lua_bot | Flowy: nil |
| 19:39.54 | kd3|netbook | index ~= indes |
| 19:40.00 | Flowy | lua> t = { ["[index]"] = "string" }; return t["[index]"] |
| 19:40.01 | lua_bot | Flowy: string |
| 19:40.05 | Flowy | huh good |
| 19:40.16 | amro | Ketho: that works but gets out of hand pretty fast, you should just use tolower |
| 19:40.30 | Ketho | out of hand?! |
| 19:40.44 | Flowy | unreadable he meant I think |
| 19:40.49 | amro | yeah |
| 19:41.04 | Hirsute-phone | Great, you killed luabot |
| 19:41.20 | Flowy | Hirsute-phone who? |
| 19:41.22 | amro | I'm trying to picture a hirsute phone right now |
| 19:41.26 | Ketho | is there any difference in "better" code between the two? |
| 19:41.46 | Ketho | or just readability* |
| 19:41.50 | Hirsute-phone | Amro: one moment |
| 19:41.54 | amro | more readable = better |
| 19:42.49 | Ketho | and what you mean we killed the luabot >< |
| 19:43.44 | amro | ~mourn lua_bot |
| 19:43.44 | purl | ACTION lights some candles for lua_bot |
| 19:44.04 | Hirsute-phone | Amro: http://images.anniescostumes.com/typhone.jpg |
| 19:44.40 | MoonWitch | can I remove the passphraze from a pubkey (git) or is it better to just create a new key |
| 19:45.03 | Hirsute-phone | Rawr |
| 19:45.07 | amro | nice |
| 19:45.40 | amro | MoonWitch: the key isn't tied to git, and as far as I know you'd have to regen a new one |
| 19:45.53 | MoonWitch | thought so ... |
| 19:46.12 | MoonWitch | safer would be to keep the passphraze with pageant or something but I seriously got annoyed |
| 19:46.18 | haste | the ssh key is just between your ssh client and the servers |
| 19:46.25 | amro | MoonWitch: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/112396/how-do-i-remove-the-passphrase-for-the-ssh-key-without-having-to-create-a-new-key |
| 19:46.36 | haste | it's one of the ways git can transport data. |
| 19:46.45 | amro | it's creepy that it's almost a word for word match for your question |
| 19:47.14 | MoonWitch | google doesn't correctly answer the true question |
| 19:47.32 | MoonWitch | I was expecting everyone here to go nuts over wanting to remove it and thus making me stop it |
| 19:47.32 | MoonWitch | :P |
| 19:47.58 | amro | I don't see the point personally |
| 19:47.59 | Jamash | I could write a stupid little function for case-insensitive matching but it'd be silly |
| 19:48.04 | amro | if you're at my computer, I'm screwed already |
| 19:48.15 | MoonWitch | yeah that is my thinking |
| 19:48.36 | Flowy | lua> function foo(string) local pattern; for i=1,string:len() pattern = "["..string:sub(i,i):lower()..string:sub(i,i):upper().."]" end return pattern end; ("tESTSTring"):find(foo("teststring")) |
| 19:48.36 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: 'do' expected near 'pattern' |
| 19:48.49 | Flowy | lua> function foo(string) local pattern; for i=1,string:len() do pattern = "["..string:sub(i,i):lower()..string:sub(i,i):upper().."]" end return pattern end; ("tESTSTring"):find(foo("teststring")) |
| 19:48.49 | lua_bot | Flowy: No output |
| 19:49.16 | Flowy | lua> function foo(string) local pattern; for i=1,string:len() do pattern = pattern.."["..string:sub(i,i):lower()..string:sub(i,i):upper().."]" end return pattern end; ("tESTSTring"):find(foo("teststring")) |
| 19:49.16 | lua_bot | Flowy: luabot:1: attempt to concatenate local 'pattern' (a nil value) |
| 19:49.36 | Flowy | lua> function foo(string) local pattern = ""; for i=1,string:len() do pattern = pattern.."["..string:sub(i,i):lower()..string:sub(i,i):upper().."]" end return pattern end; ("tESTSTring"):find(foo("teststring")) |
| 19:49.37 | lua_bot | Flowy: No output |
| 19:49.37 | Humbedooh | Flowy: Either make a private session with lua_bot or run it on your own computer, thankee |
| 19:49.54 | amro | private sessions are all booked for tonight |
| 19:50.04 | amro | lua_bot's all mine |
| 19:50.49 | Napoleone | anyone played with the new blizzzard heads up display? |
| 19:51.44 | Flowy | amro is it readable enoght? |
| 19:51.44 | Flowy | lua> function foo(string) local pattern = ""; for i=1,string:len() do pattern = pattern.."["..string:sub(i,i):lower()..string:sub(i,i):upper().."]" end return pattern end; return ("tESTSTring"):match(foo("teststring")) |
| 19:51.45 | lua_bot | Flowy: tESTSTring |
| 19:52.22 | Hirsute-phone | Are you talking about the blizz power auras? |
| 19:52.27 | amro | Flowy: don't ask me, do what works for you |
| 19:52.49 | Flowy | ok |
| 19:52.54 | Humbedooh | Flowy: Are you trying to make case-insensitive matching? |
| 19:53.03 | Flowy | Humbedooh a little |
| 19:53.12 | Jamash | Flowy: That's what I was going to write |
| 19:53.15 | Humbedooh | that's quite an expensive way to do it |
| 19:53.20 | Flowy | why? |
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| 19:53.39 | Humbedooh | because you're making a gazillion table calls and useless captures |
| 19:54.02 | Jamash | why not string.match(string.lower(a), string.lower(b)) |
| 19:54.18 | Jamash | ie the way everyone does it |
| 19:54.23 | Flowy | Jamash because I want to replace it after |
| 19:54.32 | Jamash | ... |
| 19:54.38 | Humbedooh | uhm, then you replace it? |
| 19:54.40 | Jamash | use string.find and replace by index |
| 19:54.54 | Humbedooh | string.gsub(a:lower(), b:lower()) ? |
| 19:54.54 | Flowy | and lowering all the string ... thats what I dont want to |
| 19:54.59 | Humbedooh | or whatever |
| 19:55.33 | Flowy | Jamash yes that am I writing now |
| 19:55.36 | Jamash | use string.find and string.sub |
| 19:55.38 | Jamash | okay |
| 19:55.51 | amro | ^ |
| 19:55.52 | Flowy | but there is way that I save pattern like sets ... |
| 19:56.10 | Jamash | are you going to be doing this a million times? |
| 19:56.11 | Humbedooh | it's a very expensive way to search |
| 19:56.44 | Jamash | don't bother optimizing anything you're not going to do a million times *until* you have profiled |
| 19:57.04 | Flowy | Humbedooh where its expensiveness searching sets than searching a word? |
| 19:57.09 | Humbedooh | and more so, it's not very intuitive for other readers |
| 19:57.28 | Humbedooh | Flowy: because you're creating a ton of sub-sets |
| 19:57.54 | Jamash | lua has immutable strings, so you're creating and destroying multiple strings for every character in the pattern |
| 19:58.38 | Hirsute-phone | What's the end goal, Flowy? |
| 19:58.50 | Flowy | have some words |
| 19:59.03 | Flowy | and want to filter it from string |
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| 19:59.49 | Flowy | thanks Jamash that is what I was needing to know :) |
| 20:00.30 | Flowy | I was thinking that looking for sets is same as looking for word (search for first char then for second ...) |
| 20:02.13 | Flowy | I have string "123456789" ... how to get 123789" without using .. ? |
| 20:02.38 | Hirsute-phone | And the words are indexes in a table? |
| 20:02.46 | Flowy | Hirsute-phone yes |
| 20:02.47 | Cide | amro: actually it's the opposite |
| 20:02.56 | Cide | you're assuming that most people like black |
| 20:03.12 | Cide | I'm assuming that _some_ people like white and that it should be established how many |
| 20:03.29 | Hirsute-phone | Are you using captures and grouping? |
| 20:03.49 | Flowy | can you explain "captures" "grouping" ? |
| 20:04.06 | Jamash | in the manual |
| 20:04.35 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 20:04.39 | Pneumatus | local foo = "123456789"; foo = "123789"; |
| 20:04.41 | Cide | is that the tenth time I link it to you? |
| 20:04.42 | Pneumatus | eznp |
| 20:05.22 | amro | Cide: and I'm telling you to start that discussion right now on the wiki |
| 20:05.34 | Cide | amro: it's not my responsibility and I don't care enough personally |
| 20:05.45 | amro | you still don't have a clue how wikis work |
| 20:05.52 | Hirsute-phone | http://www.lua.org/pil/20.3.html |
| 20:05.57 | Cide | yes I do |
| 20:06.05 | Cide | and I most definitely have a clue how the design process works in general |
| 20:06.16 | amro | this wasn't a from scratch design |
| 20:06.19 | Cide | but like I said, I don't care enough to do that |
| 20:06.26 | Hirsute-phone | Time to board my plane. |
| 20:06.26 | amro | this was a take vector and make it look like wowwiki design |
| 20:06.31 | Cide | however, kd3 posted a screenshot so I figured he wanted feedback |
| 20:06.34 | kd3|netbook | no |
| 20:06.38 | Cide | I figured. |
| 20:06.40 | kd3|netbook | that was not meant for public consumption |
| 20:06.47 | Cide | that doesn't make me figure any less |
| 20:07.13 | Cide | but since you're obviously hard set on a defined path already don't let me stop you with my opinion |
| 20:07.14 | amro | he actually retracted it, said he pasted in the wrong channel |
| 20:07.17 | Flowy | Pneumatus using ("123456789"):gsub("123456789":sub(4,6),"")) will be better |
| 20:07.19 | Jamash | I have this crazy idea, why not discuss wiki issues on the wiki channel |
| 20:07.31 | amro | it's not a hard defined path, for the millionth time if you have an idea you do something about it |
| 20:07.33 | amro | that's how wikis work |
| 20:07.48 | kd3|netbook | uh, no. if you've got issues, bring it up on the wiki. that way the theme people who aren't on irc can see it too |
| 20:07.56 | Cide | like I said |
| 20:08.00 | Cide | I figured kd3 wanted feedback |
| 20:08.03 | Cide | turns out he didn't |
| 20:08.30 | Cide | and thus my role in the whole thing is void, except for the fact that if most people in reality prefer white (which we'll never know) you wasted a ton of work for nothing! |
| 20:08.37 | Jamash | I have this crazy idea, why not discuss wiki issues in the wiki channel |
| 20:08.40 | Cide | so I'm happy |
| 20:08.44 | Cide | I have this crazy idea |
| 20:08.56 | Cide | why don't we discuss what we discuss and let Flowy read pil |
| 20:09.20 | Cide | since s/he's the only one wasting channel space otherwise |
| 20:09.31 | Flowy | ! |
| 20:09.31 | amro | because cide doesn't care enough to join the wiki channel but cares enough to argue at length in here about it |
| 20:09.50 | haste | I'm bored :( |
| 20:10.07 | amro | haste: help me with this shell script |
| 20:10.08 | Flowy | Cide know how to do it ... just needing a feedback |
| 20:10.09 | amro | it's fun. maybe |
| 20:10.13 | Cide | I like arguing |
| 20:10.17 | Cide | and I like design |
| 20:10.29 | Maldivia | hmm, that was easier then expected, only took 15 minutes :) |
| 20:10.30 | Cide | and I know how it's supposed to go down :) |
| 20:10.40 | Cide | Flowy: if you know how to do it why do you need it explained? |
| 20:10.40 | haste | amro: I want to code, but typing with one hand is bad enough |
| 20:10.53 | amro | haste: broken hand or...? |
| 20:11.06 | haste | fractured two bones in my left hand |
| 20:11.07 | Flowy | because I know two ways and dont know about how lua works and what is faster |
| 20:11.10 | amro | ouch |
| 20:11.26 | amro | how long are you out of a hand? |
| 20:11.34 | Cide | Flowy: and lua.org/pil answers your questions |
| 20:11.43 | haste | no idea |
| 20:12.02 | haste | the fractures arne't too bad, so not for too long I hope |
| 20:12.04 | Flowy | is there something about how it operates with sets in patterns? |
| 20:12.16 | amro | that leaves you with mouse based flash games and solitaire |
| 20:12.19 | Cide | sets? |
| 20:12.26 | Flowy | [ ] in pattern |
| 20:12.30 | haste | audiosurf works |
| 20:12.31 | Cide | yes... |
| 20:12.35 | amro | that too |
| 20:12.36 | haste | but it gets boring fast :P |
| 20:12.40 | amro | yeah |
| 20:12.42 | Cide | and worms reloaded |
| 20:12.46 | amro | soon you realize you're only listening to the music anyway |
| 20:12.47 | mikma | hmm, interesting |
| 20:12.57 | haste | pretty much what I'm doing amro |
| 20:13.00 | Cide | Flowy: maybe you should read it to see what it entails |
| 20:13.01 | mikma | there's "UI_ERRORS_OFF" and "UI_ERRORS_ON" in ChatFrame.lua |
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| 20:13.08 | haste | discovered a new artist! |
| 20:13.08 | mikma | but there aren't any slashcommands for them |
| 20:13.10 | Cide | because it answers your questions |
| 20:13.16 | haste | or two, but it's the same person behind both ^^ |
| 20:13.18 | mikma | -- easier method to turn on/off errors for macros |
| 20:13.42 | amro | who? |
| 20:13.51 | Cide | and any google search for regular expressions will tell you pretty much the same thing |
| 20:13.55 | haste | thomas bücker |
| 20:14.16 | haste | jean-michel and bersarin quartett are the artist names |
| 20:14.50 | haste | first is idm/downtempo/ambient, second is modern classical/ambient/downtempo |
| 20:14.59 | mikma | jean-michel jarre? ;) |
| 20:15.03 | haste | no |
| 20:15.06 | MoonWitch | haste : I hope yourhand heals fast :) |
| 20:15.14 | MoonWitch | try Stevie Nicks :P |
| 20:15.17 | haste | so do I |
| 20:15.20 | amro | jean michel j'arrete |
| 20:15.29 | haste | jarre makes good stuff as well |
| 20:15.30 | amro | nobody got that :( |
| 20:15.36 | haste | but jean-michel's stuff was pretty bad ass |
| 20:15.45 | MoonWitch | amro, I speak French, I got it ;) |
| 20:15.46 | haste | one of the few CDs that really caught my attention this year |
| 20:15.56 | amro | yay |
| 20:15.58 | MoonWitch | and haste, how'd you do it actually |
| 20:16.23 | MoonWitch | Amro, je ne le parle pas tres bien, mais il suffit pour vous comprendre. |
| 20:16.38 | haste | MoonWitch: blocking a smash in volleyball |
| 20:16.51 | MoonWitch | ouch |
| 20:16.57 | MoonWitch | musta been on hell of a smash |
| 20:17.01 | MoonWitch | one* |
| 20:17.16 | haste | didn't react in time and caught it with pretty much straight fingers |
| 20:17.25 | MoonWitch | yeah did that once too |
| 20:17.34 | MoonWitch | keep em raised |
| 20:18.26 | amro | [21:17] <haste> didn't react in time |
| 20:18.29 | amro | just noting the irony :P |
| 20:18.35 | haste | yeah, it wasn't my day |
| 20:18.35 | Flowy | lua> ("123456789"):gsub(("123456789"):sub(4,6),"") |
| 20:18.35 | lua_bot | Flowy: 123789, 1 |
| 20:18.42 | Flowy | what is the second return? |
| 20:18.43 | olafski | ooh audiosurf |
| 20:18.47 | haste | Flowy: matches |
| 20:18.48 | olafski | haven't seen that in a while :P |
| 20:18.52 | Flowy | haste thanks |
| 20:19.15 | haste | too bad all my music sucks in audiosurf :P |
| 20:19.16 | amro | call gsub if you want to light a cigarette |
| 20:19.19 | amro | ok that was bad |
| 20:19.23 | amro | I should get back to this shell script |
| 20:19.33 | MoonWitch | mmmmm cigarette |
| 20:19.41 | MoonWitch | gah I HATE not being able to smoke in my room |
| 20:20.24 | MoonWitch | also git and sshkeys are so much handier in Linux |
| 20:20.30 | amro | yeah |
| 20:20.45 | haste | s/%w+ and %w+/.*/ |
| 20:20.54 | haste | and some grammar~ |
| 20:20.56 | MoonWitch | whut? |
| 20:21.05 | olafski | so add some more music haste =( |
| 20:21.15 | olafski | why can't you smoke in _your_ room? :< |
| 20:21.33 | MoonWitch | we recently moved, my walls are stormwhite... |
| 20:21.48 | MoonWitch | and I can't keep the scent/smoke IN the room due to the doors |
| 20:21.54 | olafski | paint it black.. ;-) |
| 20:22.02 | MoonWitch | ok and alledgedly it's unhealthy to smoke in your bedroom |
| 20:22.16 | MoonWitch | I sleep worse now without it in my room damnit |
| 20:22.25 | haste | olafski: idm, glitch, breakcore, ambient and such isn't too fun in audiosurf |
| 20:22.26 | MoonWitch | (not to mention the strong urge to kill more often) |
| 20:22.51 | haste | hardcore is kinda fun to play tho' |
| 20:23.13 | MoonWitch | is a rock chick, but also has some less lively music going. |
| 20:23.19 | Maldivia | stretches |
| 20:23.40 | amro | MoonWitch: here, relax a little: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82wnezAMKu0 |
| 20:24.09 | MoonWitch | wtf lol |
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| 20:24.18 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh6eT_zhmRg needs more of this |
| 20:25.05 | MoonWitch | lol the addition " it's for my uncle" |
| 20:25.22 | Jamash | smorking is bad for you |
| 20:27.07 | MoonWitch | haste : I actually like that... |
| 20:27.19 | haste | it's post-rock, so why wouldn't you? |
| 20:27.31 | haste | 2:40 -> <3 |
| 20:27.34 | MoonWitch | knows almost nothing about the genres etc |
| 20:28.27 | haste | the album is probably my favorite |
| 20:28.42 | haste | it's 1h of pure <3 |
| 20:29.15 | MoonWitch | it feels like the edge of panic, being lost, yet finding some peace in something small at times. It's also raining |
| 20:29.23 | MoonWitch | (that's the feeling it gives me) |
| 20:29.50 | MoonWitch | 2.40 is a lot more hopeful |
| 20:30.06 | haste | the song is 35min long :P |
| 20:30.18 | haste | and it's aligned after a play |
| 20:31.15 | MoonWitch | it's only 10 min youtube :) |
| 20:31.24 | haste | youtube has a 10min limit on normal accounts |
| 20:31.26 | MoonWitch | << gonna go find it\ |
| 20:31.30 | MoonWitch | yeah i know |
| 20:31.51 | haste | album is called program music i |
| 20:32.00 | MoonWitch | thanks |
| 20:32.14 | haste | you probably won't like his other work |
| 20:33.08 | MoonWitch | I'll check it out :) |
| 20:34.08 | MoonWitch | I like the part around 7m best so far |
| 20:34.10 | Ackis | I got off the couch and the dog and one of my cats stole my spot :( |
| 20:34.21 | haste | you might like april.#02 tho' |
| 20:34.35 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iou1zvtFA04 this is a segment of it |
| 20:34.38 | MoonWitch | know the soundtrack to Resident Evil ? |
| 20:35.02 | haste | movies or games? |
| 20:35.06 | haste | and which of them :p ? |
| 20:35.07 | MoonWitch | movies |
| 20:35.25 | haste | I've heard it, but that's about it |
| 20:35.29 | MoonWitch | the soundtracks (or rather theme of music) is similar |
| 20:35.37 | MoonWitch | that's also stuff I listen to :) |
| 20:36.06 | MoonWitch | I just dislike polka, rap and most 40/50/60 stuff |
| 20:36.14 | MoonWitch | and this song I like even better than the other one |
| 20:37.08 | haste | album is named the same as the song |
| 20:41.19 | MoonWitch | going for smoke |
| 20:41.24 | Flowy | http://paste.wowace.com/2679/ |
| 20:41.29 | Flowy | do you see any issue there? |
| 20:41.34 | Flowy | before I run it |
| 20:41.47 | Flowy | (using while for first time) |
| 20:42.33 | olafski | haste: I don't think I know any of those genres.. except maybe hardcore, I guess that's fun to play in audiosurf :) |
| 20:42.54 | amro | haste: good stuff |
| 20:44.18 | p3lim | hm got an issue with newlines in html, <br />, \n nor 
 works |
| 20:44.54 | p3lim | its in a title |
| 20:45.08 | haste | like <title />? |
| 20:45.18 | kd3|netbook | a <title>? you can't have any line breaks in titles |
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| 20:45.21 | p3lim | attribute inside a div container |
| 20:45.21 | haste | 'cause you can't have newlines there |
| 20:45.33 | haste | you have to use JS for that |
| 20:45.38 | kd3|netbook | <div title="foo"> |
| 20:45.43 | p3lim | the title is used for a tooltip throgh javascript |
| 20:45.43 | kd3|netbook | ? |
| 20:45.46 | p3lim | yeah |
| 20:45.53 | Maldivia | p3lim: <div title="Hello |
| 20:45.57 | Maldivia | World"> |
| 20:46.00 | p3lim | tried |
| 20:46.23 | kd3|netbook | do it inside the body of the div? just have it display:none normally |
| 20:47.03 | p3lim | hm maybe |
| 20:47.05 | kd3|netbook | <div title="foo" class="noshow">Body content goes here</div> |
| 20:47.15 | kd3|netbook | where .noshow is styled appropriately, obviously |
| 20:49.01 | p3lim | nah wont work, the tooltip plugin for jquery only takes attribute |
| 20:49.24 | p3lim | could probably force the max-width of the tooltip through css |
| 20:49.50 | haste | this is what happens when you use other peoples code! |
| 20:50.07 | Maldivia | lib=bad? :) |
| 20:50.15 | haste | in many cases :( |
| 20:50.34 | p3lim | rather not write and maintain this myself |
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| 20:50.37 | p3lim | meh.. |
| 20:50.38 | haste | at least if you don't do proper resarch |
| 20:50.58 | haste | there's a ton of tooltip libraries in JS |
| 20:53.34 | p3lim | yeah I just picked one that looked good |
| 20:53.41 | p3lim | and had a readable code |
| 20:54.14 | amro | tooltips are actually fairly simple to implement |
| 20:54.37 | Maldivia | p3lim: for html5, U+000A splits into multiple lines |
| 20:55.04 | Maldivia | tried setting docinfo to html5 ? |
| 20:55.54 | Maldivia | http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-html5-20100624/elements.html#the-title-attribute |
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| 21:01.01 | p3lim | rather just find a new tooltip plugin |
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| 21:08.49 | amro | p3lim: make your own tooltips, it's fairly simple |
| 21:09.10 | mitchnull | any recommendation for a location/coords display LDB plugin? |
| 21:09.57 | amro | p3lim: http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/js/tooltip.js most of it is just for scanning the page/ajast, the actual tooltip part is simple |
| 21:10.15 | bleeter | how is blizcon formed |
| 21:10.38 | amro | blizzard + convention |
| 21:10.54 | p3lim | lol |
| 21:10.58 | bleeter | fuck, screwed that up |
| 21:11.04 | bleeter | meant to type 'bblizcon' |
| 21:11.10 | bleeter | ~fail bleeter |
| 21:11.10 | purl | bleeter, you Fail! |
| 21:11.43 | amro | that's saying "blizzcon" in an actual blizzard |
| 21:22.40 | bleeter | wow q&a seems to have turned into a) alliance suck b) gief place to store vanity clothes |
| 21:24.24 | unfo- | too many questions about legendaries |
| 21:26.03 | bleeter | tbh the excuse for not having a tabard closet was weak. 'we've not come up with a UI for ONUSE' |
| 21:27.09 | bleeter | ffs stop with the 'bc races didn't do much in wrath' fail |
| 21:27.13 | bleeter | ~emulate bleeter |
| 21:27.13 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 21:27.56 | p3lim | my father decided he didnt want the tooltips afterall >_< |
| 21:28.06 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 21:30.37 | unfo- | bleeter, for some reason it felt that you were 'a better player' if you asked a lore-wise-ish question |
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| 21:48.36 | p3lim | hm, does UnitXP(unit) work on pets? |
| 21:56.05 | MoonWitch | dont think it does, but i can be wrong |
| 22:01.41 | p3lim | nah it doesnt |
| 22:02.22 | p3lim | hm.. the event attributes in html, what kind of script can be used? |
| 22:06.17 | Computerpunk | ~emulate Computerpunk |
| 22:06.20 | Computerpunk | :< |
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| 22:09.48 | Thunder_Child | Computerpunk: write something it if you want there to be something |
| 22:10.15 | Computerpunk | o_O |
| 22:10.19 | Computerpunk | Explain .D: |
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| 22:19.30 | Thunder_Child | Computerpunk: ~emulate computerpunk is <x> |
| 22:19.53 | Computerpunk | Yeah, it emulates a string you enter. |
| 22:20.09 | Thunder_Child | well, if you want something there, wrtie it |
| 22:20.44 | Thunder_Child | repeatedly doing the same thing expecting a different result is the definition of crazy |
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| 22:37.22 | MoonWitch | after doing some work with the GitExtensions, I think I'll stick with bash |
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| 22:49.53 | Wobin | irreconcilable differences with wikia? |
| 22:52.18 | foxlit | Ugh, an annoying dragon on the login screen. Again. |
| 22:53.27 | Wobin | foxlit: is it deathwing this time? |
| 22:53.32 | foxlit | yes. |
| 22:53.36 | foxlit | Atop stormwind towers. |
| 22:53.37 | Wobin | alas |
| 22:53.44 | Wobin | and he roars too? |
| 22:53.57 | foxlit | He does something. I'm not sure whether you could call it a roar. |
| 22:54.03 | Wobin | can't he at least be civil about the whole thing, and perhaps ask if you want some tea |
| 22:54.05 | Wobin | ? |
| 22:54.13 | Amarande | wonder if Deathwing is going to be as annoying to fight as Sindy. |
| 22:55.07 | foxlit | ! |
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| 23:14.36 | Xyphoid | clearly deathwing will be redeemed |
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| 23:19.42 | Amarande | Xyphoid: cool, that will be a nice crossover with UT. :) |
| 23:19.42 | Amarande | the only redeeming that can be done to Deathwing is with a baby nuke, yeah. |
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| 23:32.19 | MoonWitch | ping tekkub |
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| 23:53.30 | tekkub | wutwutwut |
| 23:54.00 | Stanzilla | not fair, tekkub always ignores me when I ping him :( |
| 23:54.59 | foxlit | "member:MoonWitch left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving.)" |
| 23:55.07 | tekkub | the trick is catching me when I don't not care |
| 23:55.15 | Thunder_Child | but httas never |
| 23:55.15 | foxlit | There's your answer, Stanzilla -- he always responds after you leave :) |
| 23:55.17 | Thunder_Child | thats* |
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| 23:56.44 | Stanzilla | :( |
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