| 01:47.54 | *** join/#wowuidev purl (~purl@rikers.org) |
| 01:47.54 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 4.0.x ToC: 40000 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Cata Beta UI download: http://bit.ly/cvplpG || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || 5th Annual UI Community Dinner http://fb.me/JFXVE9Zh | "you are hot Shirik" - Fisker |
| 01:48.05 | kd3 | purl! |
| 01:48.06 | kd3 | <3 |
| 01:48.07 | Dagmar | You planned on buying the minimum or something? |
| 01:48.34 | Dagmar | You'll probably be happier spending a _few_ more dollars than that, like say, a 9800 on sale, or at least an 8800. |
| 01:50.36 | Jerub | Dagmar: no, it's what i already have |
| 01:50.53 | Jerub | i was expecting to need to upgrade, but they're recommending what i alrady have in my machine :P |
| 01:50.59 | Dagmar | 25-mans may get "interesting" on an 8600 |
| 01:51.09 | kd3 | if by interesting you mean slow |
| 01:51.12 | kd3 | has an 8600GT too |
| 01:51.19 | Dagmar | "framy", mainly. |
| 01:52.05 | A-KO | os: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate - (6.1.7600) 64-bit up: 4hrs 55mins 3secs cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6550 @ 2.33GHz at 2333MHz (2% Load) ram: 2000 / 8190MB (24.42%) [||--------] gfx: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB hdd: Free Space: 709.85GB/2.8TB System Temp: SpeedFanC CPU Temp: SpeedFanC GPU Temp: SpeedFan |
| 01:52.07 | A-KO | :P |
| 01:52.39 | Dagmar | WTF |
| 01:52.46 | Dagmar | 709Gb free on your desktop? |
| 01:53.03 | Dagmar | You are just *not* doing your fair share of piracy and porno, man. |
| 01:53.14 | Dagmar | Youths today... |
| 01:53.19 | Arrowmaster | ive got more than that free |
| 01:53.31 | Jerub | i would like a dual core system |
| 01:53.33 | Jerub | but meh |
| 01:53.33 | Dagmar | So have I, but not on my desktop. |
| 01:53.33 | Arrowmaster | ive got 1.8TB free |
| 01:53.42 | Arrowmaster | thats on my desktop |
| 01:53.50 | Dagmar | I only begrudgingly put a 500Gb in my desktop |
| 01:54.07 | alestane | I think the Headless Horseman is pretty cool, but he would be cooler if Hallmark weren't writing his lines. |
| 01:54.08 | A-KO | I know Dagmar :( |
| 01:54.10 | Dagmar | 3.5gb in the server necxt to it. |
| 01:54.22 | A-KO | Dagmar: my porn dir is only 153GB :( |
| 01:54.27 | Dagmar | alestane: Don't you know he's an accomplished rapist |
| 01:54.28 | kd3 | has... 244GB free? |
| 01:54.29 | Dagmar | er rapper |
| 01:54.36 | kd3 | only 8GB of which is on my raid >.< |
| 01:54.41 | Dagmar | kd3: Office SANs don't count |
| 01:54.54 | Dagmar | ...although if you to fill that with porno and get caught, it would make Risks Digest |
| 01:54.59 | kd3 | what office san? |
| 01:55.14 | kd3 | has 6 HDDs in his case |
| 01:55.22 | Arrowmaster | 10 |
| 01:55.23 | Arrowmaster | i win |
| 01:55.24 | Dagmar | Bleh I need new contacts |
| 01:55.42 | Dagmar | ...or maybe a larger font. |
| 01:56.32 | Moonwitch | Dagmar : try a different ui Scale? |
| 01:57.10 | Moonwitch | and about free diskspace : 2TB full, 1TB empty |
| 01:58.41 | Humbedooh | what the he.. |
| 01:58.50 | Moonwitch | whats up Humbedooh |
| 01:58.55 | Humbedooh | 22 downloads of pocketgnome on its first day o.O |
| 01:59.07 | Moonwitch | pocketgnome? |
| 01:59.08 | Humbedooh | was sure there'd be...one download :p |
| 01:59.27 | Arrowmaster | sounds like a masturbation device |
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| 01:59.34 | Humbedooh | it does indeed |
| 01:59.42 | Humbedooh | it's just a lousy calculator |
| 02:00.17 | Moonwitch | Arrow is right actually, it does sound like that |
| 02:00.29 | Moonwitch | well chosen name Humbedooh, well chosen.. |
| 02:01.00 | Humbedooh | especially the addition of 'gnome' makes it pervy |
| 02:01.05 | Moonwitch | yep |
| 02:02.20 | Amarande | Arrow: masturbation and gnomes should not be in the same thought. |
| 02:02.37 | Amarande | You're better off having romantic thoughts about silithids. |
| 02:02.57 | Humbedooh | http://home.online.no/~a-haa/html/dverg.gif |
| 02:02.58 | Moonwitch | or draeneis on long lonely nights with tails :) |
| 02:03.00 | Amarande | Which, unlike gnomes, are actually cool. :) |
| 02:03.28 | Humbedooh | http://home.online.no/~a-haa/html/dude.gif :( |
| 02:03.40 | Humbedooh | gnome pron |
| 02:03.55 | Moonwitch | gnome ponyplay >.< |
| 02:03.59 | Moonwitch | I need therapy |
| 02:04.11 | alestane | That's a given. |
| 02:04.27 | Moonwitch | thanks alestane |
| 02:04.28 | Moonwitch | lol |
| 02:05.01 | alestane | I do have to admit there's something about the way a lady draenei's tail draws attention to the way her tall hoof gait makes her hips sway. |
| 02:05.23 | Moonwitch | I agree |
| 02:05.33 | Moonwitch | but do put her on walk instead of run ;) |
| 02:05.39 | Moonwitch | then the hips sway more |
| 02:06.30 | Moonwitch | lol |
| 02:06.37 | Moonwitch | bad timing on his part |
| 02:07.39 | Amarande | mmm swaying hips |
| 02:07.43 | Amarande | and I almost read that as "walk instead of rum" |
| 02:08.04 | Moonwitch | not much difference anyhow :) |
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| 02:09.00 | alestane | Faith and desire and the swing of her hips? |
| 02:09.16 | Moonwitch | I would KILL for a sip of vodka |
| 02:09.37 | alestane | Did the surgery put you off booze? |
| 02:09.42 | Moonwitch | but it's at least several more months before I can drink again |
| 02:10.02 | Moonwitch | i will be able to get completely wasted with a little bit :P |
| 02:10.57 | Seerah | tackles Moonwitch |
| 02:11.03 | Moonwitch | SEERAH! |
| 02:11.10 | Moonwitch | huggles Seerah |
| 02:11.11 | Seerah | MOONIE! |
| 02:11.22 | Moonwitch | how are you doing? |
| 02:12.37 | Seerah | I'm fine, you? |
| 02:12.56 | Moonwitch | I'm doing good |
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| 02:17.46 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5667215/report-farmville-breaks-facebook-privacy-rules-sends-personal-info-to-ad-firms |
| 02:18.20 | Jerub | Kraps: um. isn't that news from like, 2008? |
| 02:18.48 | Kraps | um it happened again |
| 02:19.22 | A-KO | uhm |
| 02:19.25 | A-KO | it's always happened |
| 02:19.29 | A-KO | that's how facebook makes money |
| 02:19.31 | A-KO | period :P |
| 02:19.37 | A-KO | facebook has no privacy rules |
| 02:19.45 | A-KO | and you should have no expectation of privacy with your data on facebook |
| 02:20.40 | Kraps | my mom better fucking not discover facebook |
| 02:20.53 | Jerub | i mean, farmville. |
| 02:21.07 | Jerub | farmville, from day zero, had been designed and run to steal all your data |
| 02:21.14 | Thunder_Child | to late Kraps |
| 02:21.14 | Jerub | and all the data of all the people who are friends of you. |
| 02:21.23 | Thunder_Child | too* |
| 02:21.57 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: naw, so far she just watches tv on the net |
| 02:22.16 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: because you know *everything* about your mother..... |
| 02:22.27 | Jamash | the only good thing about facebook is that you can block spam from apps |
| 02:22.41 | Kraps | when it comes to computers yes :p |
| 02:22.53 | Jamash | when the only good thing about a service is that it makes it somewhat convenient to turn pieces of it off, that service is shit |
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| 02:24.18 | Jamash | so this "series six action figures available in the store now" ad is a lie? |
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| 02:25.51 | xyphoid | facebook's event management stuff is choice. i'm happy that the rest of the junk on there attracts enough people to make the event handling work |
| 02:27.41 | Kraps | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/sugarlandvevo?feature=ticker |
| 02:41.11 | Amarande | "Good news, everyone! We've sold your personal information!" |
| 02:41.37 | Amarande | I think I'll take the fixed poison slime pipes instead, myself ... |
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| 03:04.16 | Thunder_Child | oh stupid people how i <3 thee |
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| 03:15.38 | Kraps | gee thanks Thunder_Child! |
| 03:15.53 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: huh? |
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| 03:16.33 | Kraps | for the love |
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| 03:17.06 | Thunder_Child | my head ___-----you |
| 03:17.25 | router__ | Does anyone know which event(s) fire when a unit dies? wowprogramming says UNIT_DYNAMIC_FLAGS but that isn't firing for me. |
| 03:18.04 | Kraps | ima go kill stuff in moh bai |
| 03:18.21 | Seerah | !api unit_dead |
| 03:18.21 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'unit_dead'. |
| 03:18.32 | Thunder_Child | tisk tisk Seerah |
| 03:18.41 | Seerah | sighs |
| 03:19.11 | Seerah | yep, just CLEU |
| 03:19.26 | Thunder_Child | !api dead |
| 03:19.27 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'dead': UnitIsDeadOrGhost, NotWhileDeadError, UnitIsDead, PLAYER_DEAD |
| 03:19.36 | Seerah | those aren't events, though |
| 03:19.47 | Seerah | !api combat_log_event_unfiltered |
| 03:19.47 | lua_bot | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED: Fires when a combat log event is received (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED) |
| 03:22.16 | router__ | I was hoping not to have to register such a spammy event for something so simple. =( |
| 03:22.18 | router__ | tanks though |
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| 03:25.19 | Amarande | heh. speaking of tanks, I have a dual spec and a pretty much full tank set on my DK |
| 03:25.27 | Amarande | and I still can't really get the hang of tanking the way I can DPS |
| 03:25.38 | Amarande | I don't know what's with it, the only class I can ever seem to tank well with is pally |
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| 03:34.44 | Shirik | my pokeybear |
| 03:34.47 | Shirik | you're my pokeybear |
| 03:35.30 | Jerub | i got dual spec on my mage and warrior for the heck of it |
| 03:35.37 | Jerub | but i have no idea how to dps as a warrior |
| 03:35.41 | Jerub | or a fire mage. |
| 03:37.04 | Amarande | fire mage is easy |
| 03:37.10 | Amarande | you just cast high damage spells a lot |
| 03:37.21 | Amarande | until you pull aggro off the tank and die, then you wait to be rezzed, and rinse and repeat |
| 03:37.32 | Amarande | remember, mages have three trees: |
| 03:37.41 | Amarande | Arcane, which is used to pull aggro off the tank and get yourself killed |
| 03:37.48 | Amarande | Fire, which is used to pull aggro off the tank and get yourself killed |
| 03:37.51 | Amarande | and Frost, which just sucks. |
| 03:38.11 | Amarande | (And apparently now is also capable of pulling aggro off the tank and getting you killed.) |
| 03:38.43 | xyphoid | silly, it's balance druids that have three trees |
| 03:39.29 | Jerub | resto druids |
| 03:39.32 | Jerub | and that's only in cata |
| 03:39.40 | Jerub | balance druids just have the one owlbearman |
| 03:40.33 | Jerub | speaking of which. the tree of life CD = awesome |
| 03:42.26 | xyphoid | it was a treants joke, heh |
| 03:43.33 | Jerub | oh wait |
| 03:43.33 | Jerub | yes |
| 03:43.40 | Jerub | sorry, haven't done balance before, forgot about those |
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| 03:56.31 | bleeter | And for the next installment of our continuing saga, "URLS from hell": feed://http//my.curse.com/members |
| 03:58.08 | Amarande | and apparently folks on Turalyon are saying they barely ever see enhancement shamans anymore |
| 03:58.14 | Amarande | wonder what's up with that |
| 03:58.26 | Amarande | has enh become living on the edge again like it was in BC? |
| 04:00.16 | Dagmar | Could be they're tired of the retard kids and are just hitting up LFD |
| 04:01.07 | Amarande | I'll probably go enh on my goblin shaman in cata, actually |
| 04:01.20 | Amarande | mostly because I'll have the BoA shoulders and chest from the hunter |
| 04:01.27 | Amarande | and seeing as new BoA are stupidly expensive right now ... |
| 04:01.48 | Amarande | Dagmar, did you do a double take when you saw the heirloom vendor after patch? |
| 04:05.59 | Kraps | On September 29 2010 17:09 IdrA wrote: |
| 04:06.01 | Kraps | saying you were the third best sc1 terran outside of korea, which is arguable in itself, is like saying you're the third smartest kid in the special class. |
| 04:06.16 | Shirik | haha |
| 04:06.22 | Shirik | Original: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fbi_mobile_command_center.jpg |
| 04:06.36 | Shirik | Spot the shop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fbi_mobile_command_center.jpg |
| 04:06.57 | Trela | Those are both the same. |
| 04:07.12 | Shirik | they are not |
| 04:07.14 | Shirik | they are |
| 04:07.15 | Shirik | wtf |
| 04:07.19 | Trela | :P |
| 04:07.22 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fbi_mobile_commnd_center.jpg |
| 04:07.25 | Kraps | dude... |
| 04:07.30 | KarlKFI | fail |
| 04:07.33 | Shirik | no that one is right |
| 04:07.35 | Shirik | KarlKFI |
| 04:07.38 | Shirik | I've been looking for you |
| 04:07.39 | Kraps | yeah ok |
| 04:07.44 | Trela | Driver's seat. |
| 04:07.58 | Kraps | you blew the joke Fisker |
| 04:08.04 | Kraps | er Shirik |
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| 04:09.26 | KarlKFI | in you base, killin your SCV's? |
| 04:10.05 | Kraps | hey walter from fringe is in One Night with the King! |
| 04:10.30 | KarlKFI | thx for reminding me.. i need to watch this season |
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| 04:12.16 | Hirsute | Does the hit rating a shammy gets from Elemental Precision show up in the character pane's displayed bonus hit chance? |
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| 04:17.47 | Computerpunk_ | lua> 13837 x age x 73 |
| 04:17.48 | lua_bot | Computerpunk_: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '13837' |
| 04:18.41 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:18.49 | Computerpunk_ | lua> age = 17 print(13837 * age * 73) |
| 04:18.49 | lua_bot | Computerpunk_: 17171717 |
| 04:18.50 | Computerpunk_ | ;D |
| 04:18.53 | Computerpunk_ | Do it with your age. |
| 04:19.07 | Computerpunk_ | As long as it stays in the bound of [0, 99] |
| 04:19.20 | Computerpunk_ | pro tip |
| 04:19.29 | Computerpunk_ | 13837 * 73 = 1010101 |
| 04:19.31 | Shirik | wtf did you do |
| 04:19.35 | Computerpunk_ | cya later |
| 04:19.35 | Shirik | 17 print? |
| 04:19.37 | Computerpunk_ | lolol |
| 04:19.39 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:19.48 | Shirik | you are evil for not using semicolons |
| 04:19.52 | Computerpunk_ | XD |
| 04:22.10 | Hirsute | lua>13837*31*73 |
| 04:22.10 | lua_bot | Hirsute: 31313131 |
| 04:22.16 | Hirsute | How fun |
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| 04:23.50 | Hirsute | *sigh* My wife just realized she's severely over-capped on hit on her ele shammy, because she gets a 1:1 spirit:hit rating conversion that doesn't show up in her character pain. She asked me "How do I have a 0% chance to miss a raid boss with only 12% hit?". |
| 04:24.27 | Hirsute | Given her gear, she may be unable, it looks like even with reforging, to get undercap. |
| 04:25.01 | Hirsute | On my mage, on the other hand, I had to reforge *to* hit to make sure I was capped. |
| 04:27.01 | Jerub | http://exchange.telstra.com.au/2010/10/19/a-brief-window-to-meet-the-manliest-man-on-earth/ |
| 04:28.31 | Amarande | I've only so far had to reforge to Expertise on the DK |
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| 04:30.17 | Hirsute | Yeah, this'll be interesting. |
| 04:31.09 | Jerub | reforging is awesome for that |
| 04:31.20 | Jerub | i reckon near enough is close enough though. |
| 04:31.26 | Jerub | 0.10% chance to miss is okay hey :) |
| 05:01.50 | Napoleone | lol noticed the diff in hit capped? |
| 05:02.25 | Napoleone | between caster and melle |
| 05:08.32 | Jerub | Napoleone: um, no? |
| 05:08.48 | Napoleone | casters at 17% |
| 05:08.55 | Napoleone | melee at 27 ish |
| 05:11.06 | Amarande | man, I'm going to be glad when southshore gets nuked |
| 05:11.23 | Amarande | goddamn Hal McAllister summoning guards while I'm trying to move between the naga and murlocs for the elixir quest |
| 05:11.24 | Napoleone | goblins invented a hydrogen bomb ;P |
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| 05:39.13 | mikma_ | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/party_dog.jpg |
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| 05:54.51 | Fisker | sneezes |
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| 06:06.37 | Fisker | ~roulette Cairenn |
| 06:06.37 | purl | ACTION watches Cairenn pull the trigger: BANG! |
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| 06:09.51 | mikma | fisker: it's ~tryme |
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| 06:12.15 | Fisker | only if i want to roulette myself mikma |
| 06:12.26 | Fisker | but ~roulette works fine as well |
| 06:12.29 | Fisker | ~roulette |
| 06:12.29 | purl | ACTION watches fisker pull the trigger: Click! |
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| 06:13.19 | mikma | there was some reason why we coded a new one ^^ |
| 06:13.47 | Fisker | purl literal roulette |
| 06:13.47 | purl | "roulette" is "<action> watches $who pull the trigger: ( Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | Click! | BANG!)" |
| 06:13.53 | Fisker | sounds fine to me |
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| 06:14.21 | Fisker | purl literal ~tryme |
| 06:14.29 | Fisker | purl literal tryme |
| 06:14.29 | purl | "tryme" is "<action>spins the revolver, points it at ($nick|$nick|$nick|$nick|$nick|$randnick) and fires. (Click.|Click.|Click.|Click.|Click.|BANG!|A whale named Theodore who is the size of a small country flies into the target's face)" |
| 06:15.07 | Fisker | so basically your idea of a better ~roulette is one with whales and random victims in it? |
| 06:15.09 | Fisker | k |
| 06:15.25 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/image011.jpg you shall not pass |
| 06:15.33 | mikma | fisker: i didn't do it ;) i was part of it, ah hahahaah |
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| 06:45.18 | Dagmar | About an hour until New Vegas still. *sigh* |
| 06:45.48 | zenzio | so New Vegas is a completely separate game, no DLC crap? |
| 06:45.56 | Dagmar | Apparently. |
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| 06:46.04 | Dagmar | Steam didn't give me a bit of warning |
| 06:46.14 | zenzio | hm... I may have to check it out then |
| 06:46.28 | Dagmar | It also sounds like they made some serious changes to VATS and stuff and that might be a bit more expansive than a DLC pack would usually allow |
| 06:46.32 | zenzio | though I was displeased that Fallout 3 just stopped upon completion |
| 06:46.34 | harl | hi |
| 06:46.52 | Dagmar | zenzio: Oh there was a mod to let you keep playing _very_ early on |
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| 06:47.45 | zenzio | Dagmar: yeah, but I disapprove of game design putting a concrete ending on play like that in an otherwise fairly "open" world game |
| 06:47.58 | Dagmar | Personally... |
| 06:48.03 | zenzio | obviously it made sense if you went on and killed yourself |
| 06:48.07 | Dagmar | I was more pissed off about the _ending_ itself |
| 06:48.30 | Dagmar | I don't think the plot point it covered when I let the superior mutant put in the code was right |
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| 06:49.07 | zenzio | Dagmar: well, yeah - the ending(s) were also not really my taste. I thought they seemed a bit sudden and odd |
| 06:49.24 | Dagmar | There was zero reason I saw to actually go in there, when he was willing, able, would _survive it fine_, and had a _much_ cooler reason for wanting to do so |
| 06:49.57 | Dagmar | That seemed to me to be the best possible ending personally |
| 06:50.27 | Dagmar | Otherwise, that guy was looking at spending the rest of his life running from everyone, at the least |
| 06:52.02 | Dagmar | With humans finally having a way to clean water again, and it seeming to be the primary limiting factor in their growth, rather soon people would be thinking about hunting mutants |
| 06:52.21 | zenzio | yup |
| 06:52.40 | Dagmar | The moral of this story is "Don't hand me a complex plot and expect me to *not* think years ahead." |
| 06:53.22 | zenzio | I'm probably a bit dim, but I was a bit puzzled when I learned that I had indeed reached the end of the main story |
| 06:53.34 | Dagmar | I mean, we know those mutants were insanely strong and tough. Working with them the Earth could be cleaned up a lot faster, particularly if a lot of them turned out to be as deep as our companion mutant |
| 06:54.00 | Dagmar | I knew it was the final part of the story arc, but I didn't expect there to not be a coda |
| 06:54.28 | Dagmar | Like in Red Dead Redemption, you *know* the story is done when J. gets that "You will not win this fight" at the barn |
| 06:55.00 | Dagmar | ...but there's still a lot of loose ends to tie up. One in particular. |
| 06:55.15 | Dagmar | The bad guys are _not_ allowed to win in spaghetti westerns. |
| 06:55.52 | zenzio | :) |
| 06:56.08 | Dagmar | If it had been a little more sandboxy, I'd have taken his head |
| 06:56.58 | Dagmar | i was definitely in a mood for expressing the full length of my displeasure after not being allowed to go off the rails and eliminate that Mexcian dictator |
| 06:57.26 | Dagmar | Soooo pissed about being duped by that guy |
| 06:59.05 | zenzio | on a not quite related note, while I like ARMA II a lot, I wish it wasn't so "current" - middle-east nutjob campaigns don't interest me as much as the good old Cold War Crisis campaign did... I'd gladly pay to get that on the ARMA II engine (some modders are working on this, but within limits) |
| 07:00.30 | Dagmar | I'm too much of a hippie to really enjoy those kinds of games |
| 07:00.40 | Dagmar | (as loathe as I am to admit that( |
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| 07:01.06 | Dagmar | All-out war, is generally stupid. |
| 07:01.17 | zenzio | my feelings for war simulators tends to be either hit or miss... but Operation Flashpoint just really hit the mark for me |
| 07:02.14 | Jerub | i like games like the commando series or jagged alliance |
| 07:02.58 | Dagmar | I can deal with those about as far as Wolfenstien, because only seldom does that turn into huge numbers of casualties and destructiong of anything other than military hardware |
| 07:03.30 | zenzio | Jerub: Commandos, the RTS (or whatever you'd call it)? |
| 07:04.16 | zenzio | Dagmar: did you ever play Operation Flashpoint? |
| 07:04.32 | zenzio | (Cold War Crisis, not the addons or the recent bogus one) |
| 07:04.39 | Jerub | zenzio: um, i guess it was an RTS |
| 07:05.00 | zenzio | Jerub: those games, whatever you'd classify them as, were cool |
| 07:05.02 | Jerub | zenzio: it was isometric small squad combat |
| 07:05.03 | Dagmar | zenzio: nope |
| 07:05.10 | zenzio | though I had a habit of overusing Tiny |
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| 07:06.50 | zenzio | Dagmar: given that Flashpoint was a military simulator mostly, I was surprised by the campaign. You mostly don't do large-scale battles, it's more driving convoys, fleeing to find your way back to your mates, and slowly pushing back. The more recent games in the series (ARMA/ARMA II) feel less like that, and thus less fun to me |
| 07:08.02 | Dagmar | I can see that |
| 07:08.36 | Dagmar | THe last all-out-wargame I played I can't even remember the name of. I remember you played POV of several soldiers from different countries |
| 07:09.00 | Dagmar | ...and the bloodbaths just had me feeling like that world's gone completely mad |
| 07:09.11 | Dagmar | (granted, that kinda sums up WWII) |
| 07:09.20 | zenzio | hehe |
| 07:09.41 | Dagmar | As evolutionary interests go, that sort of thing has to be a failure characteristic for a species |
| 07:09.42 | zenzio | Cairenn: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/19/funny-pictures-kitten-hugs-cat/ |
| 07:09.52 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 07:10.18 | Dagmar | The only mechanism it could possibly effect would be a lessening of testosterone levels, but surely by NOW humanity can find better ways to do that |
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| 07:11.39 | Dagmar | If we're going to get off this rock before the lights go out, we've gotta convince *someone* we're not going to just trash the universe |
| 07:12.13 | zenzio | true |
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| 07:12.31 | Dagmar | I'm just hoping I still at least qualify as an applet by then |
| 07:13.15 | zenzio | I didn't know you were made in Java |
| 07:13.42 | Dagmar | I don't think it's suited for that |
| 07:14.07 | zenzio | in that case, this is a use of "applet" that has eluded me |
| 07:14.43 | Amarande | wow, horde sucks in wsg nowadays |
| 07:15.03 | Amarande | case in point: there I am standing there getting sapped. like DURR THERE IS A ROGUE HERE. YOU SHOULD KILL IT. but no, their response to someone getting sapped is to just run away and let them die |
| 07:15.52 | zenzio | dude, he might have a stun left over for them if they stay! ;-o |
| 07:17.29 | zenzio | guess the rogue got him |
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| 07:19.29 | zenzio | speaking of rogues, I assume you all saw the Tier 12? http://poorlydressed.failblog.org/2010/10/18/fashion-fails-im-ready-to-dance/ |
| 07:19.54 | unfo- | i don't get how getting butthurt from rogue + having idiots around you in bgs is in any fokken way limited to horde... |
| 07:20.26 | Xyphoid | this is amarande |
| 07:20.50 | unfo- | should i have a filter for it? |
| 07:20.54 | Xyphoid | he draws authoritative conclusions from anything including spoons |
| 07:21.09 | unfo- | ah. ty for heads up |
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| 07:54.51 | Sintacks | so laik. i can't find the list... whats the /use number for thrown/bow/etc -- or the link to the whole list... |
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| 07:56.22 | mitch0 | sin: http://www.wowwiki.com/Equipment_slot |
| 07:56.31 | Sintacks | tyty |
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| 08:02.49 | Sintacks | and yes, i joined an IRC network and channel, to ask a single question the Google couldn't find the answer to. |
| 08:04.14 | mitch0 | for the record, I found it with google :) |
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| 08:05.28 | Fisker | your records suck mitch0 |
| 08:05.47 | mitch0 | no wai |
| 08:05.58 | mitch0 | win7 <-> winxp connectivity sucks though |
| 08:06.35 | Fisker | slaps mitch0 around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:06.50 | Fisker | you should never try to connect with windows xp |
| 08:06.52 | Dagmar | mitch0: You speak truth |
| 08:07.20 | mitch0 | I ended up booting linux on the xp machine and grabbing files with winscp from win7... how sucky is that? |
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| 08:12.26 | Flowy | how to disable resizing in AceGUI? |
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| 08:41.38 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YJ3BTKMILw |
| 08:41.44 | Wobin | dude in the red shirt -> awesome |
| 08:42.16 | Fisker | any news on whether or not US will get a patch today? |
| 08:44.21 | mikma | meh |
| 08:44.42 | mikma | i am so disappointed of the amount of honor you get |
| 08:44.58 | mikma | seems like it takes bloody ages to get enough for items |
| 08:45.28 | mikma | oh, and random battleground is random warsong gulch now |
| 08:45.55 | zenzio | all battlegrounds are random, but some battlegrounds are more random than others |
| 08:50.50 | Elkano | red shirt? as good as dead... |
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| 09:09.08 | eidolarr | is anyone here good at lisp? |
| 09:10.08 | mitch0 | (no) |
| 09:10.20 | eidolarr | i was afraid of that |
| 09:10.34 | eidolarr | i can't figure out how to string together two imperative commands |
| 09:10.43 | mitch0 | I repeatedly failed with lisp :) |
| 09:11.16 | eidolarr | i have to say, for such an academically esteemed language it's pretty ugly |
| 09:11.42 | mitch0 | it gives me a headache in about 20 mins *shrug* |
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| 09:12.04 | eidolarr | i think when lisp was being invented they had dinosaurs |
| 09:12.17 | eidolarr | thanks anyways |
| 09:15.04 | Jamash | I read The Little Lisper but I've never really used lisp |
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| 10:09.35 | Pup | does anyone know if there is a known bug with filtering on UnitAura()? |
| 10:09.40 | Pup | since 4.0 |
| 10:11.39 | Vilkku | what's the difference between PLAYER_ENTERING_COMBAT and PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED? |
| 10:12.02 | Vilkku | oh wait |
| 10:12.04 | Vilkku | it's for melee |
| 10:12.05 | Vilkku | >< |
| 10:16.08 | Jamash | hey what's the syntax for the new global addon table thing? |
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| 10:20.40 | haste | I accidently hot coffee over my hand :( |
| 10:21.10 | Olison | :< |
| 10:21.47 | zenzio | haste: the whole thing? |
| 10:22.04 | haste | yy :( |
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| 10:27.35 | Zyn | should spill coffee all over one of your arms |
| 10:27.41 | Zyn | like my uncle did once |
| 10:27.51 | Zyn | his skin is still weird on his arm |
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| 10:35.17 | amro | haste: I already knew your version of 'hot coffee' involved your hand |
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| 10:58.28 | Vilkku | hmm... how can I check if a variable is an integer or not? |
| 10:58.59 | Wobin | drop it into water |
| 10:59.10 | Wobin | if it sinks to the bottom it's an int |
| 11:00.00 | Elkano | type? |
| 11:00.11 | Wobin | http://www.lua.org/pil/2.3.html |
| 11:00.21 | Wobin | 'number' |
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| 11:03.00 | Vilkku | well Wobin, how can I know if it's a number and not a string? besides from trying to compare your variable with a number and getting an error, which is what is happening for me now :P |
| 11:10.41 | Wobin | Vilkku: use the type function |
| 11:10.54 | Wobin | like Elkano mentionde |
| 11:11.16 | Wobin | http://www.lua.org/pil/2.html |
| 11:11.19 | Vilkku | oh... didn't get that he meant it was a function >< I'm a dumbass |
| 11:11.26 | Vilkku | also, thanks Elkano for keeping EBB alive :P |
| 11:11.30 | Wobin | have a read of PiL |
| 11:11.34 | Wobin | it's very useful |
| 11:11.44 | unfo- | mikma, do you have something to do with mik's scrolling combat text addon? |
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| 11:12.46 | Wobin | unfo-: no, that's Mikord |
| 11:12.56 | unfo- | Wobin, oki |
| 11:13.00 | Jamash | beta login server busy :( |
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| 11:23.50 | krka | jnwhiteh, batrick: hey, do you know if there's any good open source lua sandbox? if not, we don't you / we release one! |
| 11:24.20 | zenzio | lua sandbox? |
| 11:24.52 | krka | lua environment with protection against hacking, using too much memory, using too much cpu, et.c. |
| 11:24.56 | Computerpunk_ | :o |
| 11:25.14 | Computerpunk_ | Kraps, why don't* |
| 11:25.15 | Computerpunk_ | XD |
| 11:25.18 | Computerpunk_ | krka, * |
| 11:25.29 | amro | smooth |
| 11:25.31 | amro | real smooth |
| 11:25.34 | Computerpunk_ | :o |
| 11:25.34 | Computerpunk_ | wat? |
| 11:25.37 | zenzio | suave! |
| 11:25.39 | amro | what* |
| 11:28.11 | Jamash | durp |
| 11:28.18 | Jamash | s/durp/hurp durp/ |
| 11:28.35 | Jamash | s/durp/derp/g |
| 11:28.39 | Computerpunk_ | lolo |
| 11:29.54 | Jamash | so every time I start SC2 it has a patch |
| 11:30.14 | foxlit | clear sign that you're not playing enough SC2 |
| 11:30.21 | Jamash | sho nuff |
| 11:30.29 | foxlit | It's the same with me and firefox -- every time I have a reason to open it, it closes itself to update |
| 11:30.48 | zenzio | know what's embarrassing? I reached the final level in SC2, then forgot about it... never actually finished it |
| 11:30.58 | Jamash | clear sign you're not opening firefox enough |
| 11:31.32 | Jamash | omg no energy on thor |
| 11:31.54 | Jamash | omg no energy on corruptor |
| 11:33.34 | Jamash | so wait, sc2 goes down for maintenance at the same time as wow? |
| 11:33.39 | Jamash | fffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 11:34.28 | Computerpunk_ | Jamash, blizz didn't geti t well |
| 11:34.56 | Computerpunk_ | get it well* |
| 11:35.01 | Computerpunk_ | PEOPLE PLAY SC2 WHEN WOW IS BORING. |
| 11:35.02 | Computerpunk_ | lolol |
| 11:35.05 | Computerpunk_ | <Jamash> clear sign you're not opening firefox enough |
| 11:35.10 | Computerpunk_ | You saying that as if it's a bad thing/ |
| 11:35.28 | Computerpunk_ | I'd rather NOT open Firefox ever again. |
| 11:35.42 | Jamash | your message showed up as [0x08]<[0x08]Jamash[0x08]>[0x08] clear sign you're not opening firefox enough |
| 11:35.57 | Jamash | Firefox is the only good web browser |
| 11:36.09 | Vilkku | is it possible to create the contents for a configuration panel frame straight from .lua without the .xml? |
| 11:36.21 | Jamash | Yes, you can do pretty much anything from lua |
| 11:36.33 | Vilkku | I got the panel showing already, but it's empty |
| 11:37.10 | amro | put stuff in it |
| 11:38.06 | Vilkku | yeah I'm checking another mod hoping that they did it in a simple way :P |
| 11:39.03 | Jamash | I use AceConfig because I can't be bothered to write my own config panel code |
| 11:41.09 | Computerpunk_ | Halls of Reflection. |
| 11:41.09 | Computerpunk_ | ... |
| 11:41.16 | Computerpunk_ | inb4 all chievements. |
| 11:41.17 | Jamash | what about it? |
| 11:41.19 | Computerpunk_ | achievements* |
| 11:41.22 | Computerpunk_ | I just got it on queue. |
| 11:41.26 | Jamash | yay? |
| 11:41.30 | Computerpunk | >_< |
| 11:41.55 | Jamash | I hope tanks stop dropping from HoR groups after the first boss now that you can get roflop shields from the pvp vendor |
| 11:42.00 | Computerpunk | we're using hide tactic. |
| 11:42.21 | Jamash | for *70* honor |
| 11:42.47 | Computerpunk | 70? |
| 11:42.47 | Computerpunk | :| |
| 11:42.53 | Computerpunk | oh yeah |
| 11:42.58 | Computerpunk | what's the current cap?on HPs and JPs? |
| 11:43.08 | Jamash | soft cap is 4,000 |
| 11:43.24 | Jamash | hard cap coming in 4.0.3 |
| 11:43.35 | Jamash | all points over 4,000 will be converted to monies |
| 11:43.39 | Computerpunk | yeah. |
| 11:43.46 | Computerpunk | Ty. |
| 11:43.57 | Computerpunk | Still on safe zone. |
| 11:43.58 | Computerpunk | XD |
| 11:43.58 | Wobin | painfully, if you're over the soft cap, you don't earn any more |
| 11:44.07 | Computerpunk | under 1k on both. |
| 11:44.09 | Jamash | so buy something |
| 11:44.15 | Jamash | if you're over the cap |
| 11:44.27 | Wobin | yeh, didn't realise it til after I did the weekly |
| 11:44.51 | Jamash | what can I do while bnet is down |
| 11:44.54 | Computerpunk | Nah. |
| 11:45.02 | Computerpunk | Ohshi Wobin. |
| 11:45.09 | Jamash | oh I could play the other fifty games I've bought and not played |
| 11:45.16 | Computerpunk | it's tomorrow for us |
| 11:45.19 | Computerpunk | Jamash, lol |
| 11:45.26 | Computerpunk | One holiday. |
| 11:45.29 | Computerpunk | I'ma lock myself in my room. |
| 11:45.31 | Computerpunk | and play |
| 11:45.33 | Computerpunk | all final fantasies. |
| 11:45.42 | Jamash | that sounds terrible |
| 11:45.51 | Jamash | In their original forms, or remakes? |
| 11:46.39 | Computerpunk | Original. |
| 11:46.46 | Computerpunk | I've finished 1-6 in a week. |
| 11:48.55 | Computerpunk | only because I knew what to do |
| 11:50.04 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XafAdkZIYKA&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 11:50.08 | Wobin | holy shit =P |
| 11:50.15 | Wobin | don't mess with eagles |
| 11:50.32 | Computerpunk | halfway through Stocking Up. |
| 11:51.31 | Computerpunk | ._. |
| 11:51.57 | Computerpunk | I feel stupid. |
| 11:52.02 | Computerpunk | for never thinking about it. |
| 11:52.06 | Computerpunk | if I were an eagle. |
| 11:52.11 | Computerpunk | I'd hunt down all humans this way. |
| 11:52.11 | Computerpunk | xd |
| 11:52.32 | Computerpunk | LOL |
| 11:52.35 | Computerpunk | HALLS OF REFLECTION BUGGED |
| 11:52.53 | Computerpunk | jesus christ |
| 11:52.54 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 11:52.55 | Computerpunk | I debugged it |
| 11:52.57 | Computerpunk | but everyone left |
| 11:53.09 | Computerpunk | unbugged* |
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| 12:14.18 | zenzio | hey there Lopeppeppy |
| 12:17.30 | |Jelly| | loves getting customer political smear e-mails . . . on his work e-mail address. |
| 12:17.39 | Lopeppeppy | *hug hug* |
| 12:17.58 | zenzio | customer political smear e-mails? |
| 12:18.47 | |Jelly| | Subject: how we wound up with Barrack Obama (Note: I'm /definitely/ not trying to bring up politics; I just don't think sending e-mails like this to someone's work e-mail address is right) |
| 12:20.33 | zenzio | I just don't understand the "customer" part |
| 12:21.25 | Lopeppeppy | Customers who are spamming him at work. |
| 12:21.27 | |Jelly| | I work retail and built them a computer about a month ago. I gave them my work e-mail address in case they had any questions. Now instead of getting questions, I've gotten a hand full of these e-mails. |
| 12:21.40 | Lopeppeppy | Kind of an ironic reversal of a retailer spamming their customers. |
| 12:21.41 | zenzio | oh, *from* customers? |
| 12:22.06 | |Jelly| | Yeah, sorry ... 7am here doesn't come so easily for me. |
| 12:22.28 | zenzio | hey, for all I know it may be perfectly valid English; it's not my native language |
| 12:24.07 | Lopeppeppy | It required some reading between the lines, but fortunately I'm fluent in |Jelly| |
| 12:24.19 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 12:25.12 | |Jelly| | So Shirik pingged me the other day and wouldn't tell me what he needs. He keeps saying that he'll ping me again when it's time or whatever. Cryptic Shirik is cryptic. :( |
| 12:25.33 | zenzio | I think he's just looking for attention |
| 12:26.18 | |Jelly| | It's quite possible |
| 12:27.24 | Lopeppeppy | He's cute and fluffy though. |
| 12:30.23 | |Jelly| | Is he now? |
| 12:30.31 | |Jelly| | I thought he stopped playing his dwarf. :P |
| 12:30.44 | zenzio | that's what he wants you to think |
| 12:33.03 | |Jelly| | Touché Shirik, touché. |
| 12:33.42 | Lopeppeppy | No, he still touches dwarves. |
| 12:35.35 | |Jelly| | That's kinda hot. |
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| 12:38.33 | |Jelly| | This is kind of funny -- my roomie's computer's video card's fan (wow ... confusing much?) doesn't ever hit 100% unless she's playing Farmville. GG Zynga? |
| 12:38.56 | zenzio | or Flash |
| 12:39.17 | zenzio | at least Flash is always being tough on my laptop |
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| 12:39.57 | |Jelly| | I was having a lot of fun blaming Zynga's addictive games. :( |
| 12:40.48 | nev-mobile | Zenzio is just a mean killjoy |
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| 12:51.16 | amro | |Jelly|: blame zynga for stealing brian reynolds |
| 13:01.54 | Kraps | "LOL @ fags thinking 4chan is their secret circlejerk club" |
| 13:02.16 | Kraps | youtubers sometimes have good points y'know? |
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| 13:08.13 | Fisker | doesn't sound like it |Jelly| |
| 13:08.39 | Fisker | in case you didn't know, Flash is executed on the CPU, not the GPU |
| 13:09.40 | |Jelly| | While that's great and all, it still doesn't remove the fact that her GPU's fan goes shit crazy when she gets on Farmville. So perhaps her computer is just stupid. |
| 13:10.01 | nev-mobile | Flash can use the gpu for graphics, you know! |
| 13:10.24 | Fisker | no it can't |
| 13:10.44 | Fisker | Only hardware acceleration it does is video |
| 13:11.06 | Humbedooh | flash can use the operating system, and the operating system can use the gpu! |
| 13:11.24 | Humbedooh | otherwise...how'd the images turn up on your screen? :( |
| 13:11.33 | Fisker | ok |
| 13:11.33 | Fisker | it can |
| 13:11.36 | Fisker | but it doesn't |
| 13:12.10 | Fisker | and zynga definitely can't make flash use the gpu |
| 13:12.47 | Humbedooh | hrrr |
| 13:12.57 | |Jelly| | Cool story bro; then explain away why her GPU goes crazy. |
| 13:13.20 | Fisker | why don't you? |
| 13:13.31 | Kraps | Fisker: fallout vegas? |
| 13:13.38 | Fisker | I would if i could Kraps |
| 13:14.03 | |Jelly| | Because you're the one going on about how there's absolutely no way flash would cause it, therefore the burden of proof lies with you. ily? |
| 13:14.46 | nev-mobile | Flash 10.1 can use opengl for rendering |
| 13:14.59 | Fisker | The burden of proof would be on me showing you why flash doesn't use the gpu |
| 13:15.05 | Fisker | and sure i'll go find that |
| 13:15.08 | Napoleone | hmm is this correct made? for i = 1, 12 do ["PPpb"..i]:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", ["PPpb" .. (i - 1)], "BOTTOMLEFT", 0 , -10) end |
| 13:15.19 | Napoleone | to make a setpoint to the one before. |
| 13:15.27 | Vilkku | can I use . in a variable name without it fucking up? |
| 13:15.53 | nev-mobile | The first one wont work with that, there is no one before |
| 13:16.04 | nev-mobile | Vilkku: no |
| 13:16.08 | Napoleone | i know. i'm making a first one before it |
| 13:16.15 | zenzio | also, PPpb1..12 seems a bit... odd naming |
| 13:16.15 | Napoleone | nev-mobile but its correct written? |
| 13:16.24 | Napoleone | not going to 12.. only 7 ;P |
| 13:16.25 | Humbedooh | it's correct ye |
| 13:16.29 | Napoleone | forgot to change that |
| 13:16.35 | nev-mobile | No its not |
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| 13:16.43 | Humbedooh | or well apart from the missing _G |
| 13:16.55 | nev-mobile | That ^ |
| 13:16.56 | Napoleone | shall it be _G. or does _L exist. |
| 13:17.07 | Humbedooh | the _L is a lie |
| 13:17.12 | Napoleone | aaah ;) |
| 13:17.14 | nev-mobile | Wth is L |
| 13:17.20 | Humbedooh | it's a lie, nev! |
| 13:17.30 | zenzio | I'm guessing he thought _L could be for locals if _G is for globals, or something |
| 13:17.32 | nev-mobile | L ie? |
| 13:17.34 | Napoleone | _G and _L i thought global and Local |
| 13:17.35 | Humbedooh | has no clue :( |
| 13:17.42 | Humbedooh | no no :P |
| 13:17.47 | Humbedooh | L is used for locales |
| 13:17.50 | Humbedooh | not locals |
| 13:17.54 | Napoleone | haha |
| 13:17.56 | nev-mobile | There is no more L then there is pie |
| 13:17.57 | Napoleone | trolling ;) |
| 13:18.46 | Humbedooh | informing! |
| 13:18.46 | nev-mobile | I could go for a pie now though |
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| 13:18.55 | Humbedooh | a whole pie? |
| 13:18.57 | Cide | hi |
| 13:18.59 | nev-mobile | Sure |
| 13:19.02 | Humbedooh | you will get fat...ter |
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| 13:19.25 | nev-mobile | Who cares, the pie is what counts |
| 13:19.30 | Humbedooh | just like sylvanaar! |
| 13:19.42 | sylvanaar | what |
| 13:19.52 | Humbedooh | sylvanaar: pie! |
| 13:20.03 | Humbedooh | but what sort of pie, t'is the question |
| 13:20.13 | sylvanaar | rhubarb |
| 13:20.22 | sylvanaar | huckleberry |
| 13:20.22 | Humbedooh | lemon meringue pie perhaps |
| 13:20.42 | Humbedooh | rhubarb is also a good choice |
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| 13:21.18 | nev-mobile | Cakes are more popular here, so i would've to bake my own, bakerys dont usually sell them. :( |
| 13:22.21 | Humbedooh | baking can be fun! |
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| 13:25.13 | Humbedooh | in fact, my ick name back at university was the Pastry Chef |
| 13:25.34 | nev-mobile | Yes, sure. But i dont even have basic ingredients like flour at home. :P |
| 13:25.47 | Humbedooh | pft, you gotta have flour! |
| 13:26.21 | nev-mobile | I just moved in the place a few weeks ago, didnt need it yet |
| 13:27.40 | alestane | Napoleone, globals are stored in what's called an "environment table" (usually referred to as _G) but locals are handled very differently inside the language, so there's not one table where you can find them all. |
| 13:27.56 | Humbedooh | alestane: and thank goodness for that |
| 13:28.09 | Humbedooh | or the garbage collector would have a hissy fit |
| 13:28.54 | Ackis | hey cog|away you're a boss in wow apparently :P |
| 13:29.20 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kIJqXLMLwc&feature=player_embedded |
| 13:29.27 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: i think cog is at disneyland right now |
| 13:29.35 | Ackis | oh :( |
| 13:29.36 | Ackis | bastard |
| 13:29.52 | Computerpunk | ~emulate Computerpunk |
| 13:29.55 | Computerpunk | >_> |
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| 13:33.35 | Cide | you need to be pro to be emulated |
| 13:33.38 | Cide | ~emulate Cide |
| 13:33.38 | purl | Please remove this discussion from your consciousness. |
| 13:33.44 | Cide | yeahhhh |
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| 13:34.30 | Ackis | ~emulate ackis |
| 13:34.30 | purl | I AM QQing!!! |
| 13:34.32 | Ackis | ~ackis |
| 13:34.32 | purl | methinks ackis is tmi |
| 13:34.44 | Ackis | my Ackis factoid gets changed so much |
| 13:35.07 | Cide | I like to think I fit in better with ~emulate saien |
| 13:35.10 | Cide | ~emulate saien |
| 13:35.10 | purl | Your question is not very descriptive, helpful, or useful in any manner. |
| 13:35.19 | Cide | he's a legend |
| 13:37.05 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5666751/michael-jackson-twitter-and-some-ipads-walk-into-a-parody-video |
| 13:37.59 | alestane | Here's a wacky kind of cool idea: http://www.ted.com/talks/eben_bayer_are_mushrooms_the_new_plastic.html |
| 13:38.47 | amro | ~emulate bleeter |
| 13:38.48 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 13:39.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'm almost afraid... |
| 13:39.28 | Lopeppeppy | ~emulate Lopeppeppy |
| 13:39.39 | amro | Cide: you might even say he's a... |
| 13:39.42 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, there is no imitation! :) |
| 13:39.42 | amro | puts on shades |
| 13:39.43 | amro | super saien. |
| 13:39.59 | Cide | dun dun dun |
| 13:40.09 | Ackis | Kinect Releases: 15 days, 14 hours, 19 minutes, 22 seconds |
| 13:40.12 | Ackis | Fisker: ^ |
| 13:40.16 | Cide | releases? |
| 13:40.29 | Cide | it's released in 22 seconds AND in 19 minutes?! |
| 13:41.06 | amro | no, I think it means that kinect releases a total of 15 days etc |
| 13:41.28 | Cide | of what.. watts? |
| 13:41.34 | airtonix | releases over cide |
| 13:41.41 | amro | of time |
| 13:41.44 | airtonix | thanks |
| 13:41.48 | amro | with kinect, time is no longer an abstraction |
| 13:41.49 | Cide | you can't release time |
| 13:41.50 | amro | it's REAL |
| 13:41.56 | Ackis | I would answer Cide but I was talking to Fisker who will no doubt troll better than Cide is attempting to. |
| 13:42.18 | amro | oh snap |
| 13:42.21 | Cide | while I'm trolling I'm actually being truthful :P |
| 13:42.22 | airtonix | kek |
| 13:42.22 | amro | cide you gonna let that slide? |
| 13:42.29 | amro | also that rhymed |
| 13:42.30 | Cide | no, I agree |
| 13:42.39 | airtonix | why |
| 13:42.47 | Cide | but I sighed |
| 13:42.48 | amro | because cide rhymes with slide |
| 13:42.50 | amro | leaves |
| 13:42.55 | Ackis | it's a javascript plugin I C&Ped from on a website :P |
| 13:43.04 | Cide | should have dropped the 's' |
| 13:43.04 | Ackis | on a side note, why can't I right click my buffs any longer? |
| 13:43.14 | amro | so that you can't copy paste them |
| 13:43.16 | Ackis | IMO it should be Kinect Release Date: |
| 13:43.18 | amro | buff stealer |
| 13:44.27 | alestane | Lopeppeppy is inimitable. |
| 13:45.21 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. |
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| 13:46.36 | amro | try saying inimitable 10 times fast |
| 13:47.58 | zenzio | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6214655.stm - "Housework cuts breast cancer risk" |
| 13:48.45 | Cide | or maybe having a clean home reduces cancer risk and their husbands are lazy dorks |
| 13:49.10 | amro | or maybe working out and not sitting on the couch all day reduces risk |
| 13:49.20 | Cide | they compared it with sports, amro |
| 13:49.29 | amro | fail |
| 13:49.48 | amro | maybe all those women doing "sports" were just shagging their trainers |
| 13:50.30 | zenzio | if I didn't know better I'd say you sounded afraid to lose your right to do the housework |
| 13:50.33 | Ackis | anyone planning on starting a new WoW Account at all? |
| 13:50.48 | amro | zenzio: right? |
| 13:51.39 | Adys | amro: come in the shower already |
| 13:51.42 | Adys | I'm getting impatient |
| 13:51.59 | Cide | he doesn't like showering with his mom |
| 13:52.12 | amro | no, I like showering with your sister |
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| 13:52.31 | Cide | so do I |
| 13:53.00 | amro | you swedes and your weird but odly erotic traditions |
| 13:53.06 | amro | s/odly/oddly/ |
| 13:53.19 | Cide | nou? |
| 13:56.30 | amro | Katrine Trolle, 36, also told the High Court in Glasgow that she had sex with Mr Sheridan at his family home while his wife attended a Christmas party. |
| 13:56.46 | amro | that's the least credible name ever |
| 13:56.48 | Cide | trollollollollolled |
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| 14:10.54 | Adys | anyone here who plays on windows with shadows at high or ultra level? |
| 14:11.15 | Vilkku | Adys, me |
| 14:11.34 | Adys | Vilkku: do you often play for long periods of time? (5-6+ hrs) |
| 14:12.05 | Vilkku | uh, not often I guess |
| 14:12.06 | Vilkku | some times |
| 14:12.09 | Adys | k nvm |
| 14:12.25 | Vilkku | I'm curious now, what were you going to ask? |
| 14:13.15 | Adys | about out of memory errors |
| 14:13.24 | Cide | done that |
| 14:13.28 | Cide | never happened |
| 14:13.42 | Cide | get an os with proper memory management yeah |
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| 14:23.39 | Thunder_Child | Adys: since when? |
| 14:25.48 | Wobin | ahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChcGijMxjC0&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:28.26 | Humbedooh | hrrr |
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| 14:41.41 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 14:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | EXCITEMENT!! |
| 14:42.32 | Lunessa | 18 hours to lift-off. |
| 14:42.50 | Ackis | blizzcon sucks!!! |
| 14:42.51 | alestane | Yeah, that's an ungodly early hour. |
| 14:42.51 | Ackis | :( |
| 14:43.25 | Lunessa | Yeah, the cheap flights are always at "OMFG WHY" hours. |
| 14:43.47 | alestane | That's, what, around 3:30am? |
| 14:44.14 | alestane | Or what my wife typically refers to as "butt-fuck-o'clock in the morning?" |
| 14:44.33 | Lopeppeppy | Damn, you crazy Lunessa! :) |
| 14:44.36 | Lopeppeppy | I hope you have tons of fun |
| 14:44.36 | Lunessa | Pretty much. I need to get to the airport by 4 for a 6am flight. |
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| 14:45.20 | angayelle | hai peoplez |
| 14:45.27 | Lunessa | should bring his WOW Programming 1rst ed for signatures. |
| 14:45.43 | Cide | sorry to break it to you but I won't be attending |
| 14:45.51 | Ackis | alestane: wow you and your wife have a special time allotted for that? |
| 14:46.10 | Ackis | Lunessa: I brought mine 2 years ago and didn't get it signed at all... didn't meet anyone other than coggypoo and misses coggypoo |
| 14:46.12 | Lunessa | Ackis Don't be jealous. |
| 14:46.43 | Ackis | not jealous, I just carried around that damn big book for no reason :P |
| 14:46.52 | Lunessa | Well, I'm supposed to have breakfast with Cog when I get in. |
| 14:47.08 | Ackis | only reason I met him is because he was in the line behind me for the store |
| 14:47.20 | Ackis | the store my fiancee made me line up for hours in :| |
| 14:47.38 | Cide | whipped. |
| 14:47.55 | Ackis | hey at least I can say I had sex in california :P |
| 14:48.04 | Cide | but not in sweden |
| 14:48.06 | Lunessa | I lined up for the store last year, 'cause I promised to being souvieniers back - this year I'm off the hook, and there's nothing I'm dying to have out of the store. |
| 14:48.24 | Humbedooh | sex in sweden is overrated anyway |
| 14:48.40 | Cide | no? |
| 14:48.46 | Cide | you're overrated then |
| 14:48.51 | Ackis | I wanted to get a couple shirts from the online sale and the pets, but missed it (for virtual tickets) |
| 14:48.59 | Ackis | was thinking about the grunty figerprint thing |
| 14:48.59 | Lunessa | Only if you're Swedish. If you're an American, it's pretty cool to add to your "Been there, did that" list. |
| 14:49.08 | Ackis | worst comes to worst I'll call Kaelten and say plleeeasseee! |
| 14:49.15 | Lunessa | Hahaha |
| 14:49.24 | Humbedooh | if you live anywhere near sweden, it's not cool either ;p |
| 14:49.35 | Lunessa | I've been trying to talk him out of the original murloc code for over a year. |
| 14:49.38 | nevcairiel | and i thought sweden is always rather cool |
| 14:49.50 | Cide | sweden is supercool |
| 14:50.02 | Fisker | work sucks |
| 14:50.03 | Lunessa | Cide -Superconductivity cool? |
| 14:50.05 | nevcairiel | prefers warm weather |
| 14:50.20 | Ackis | Lunessa: you and me both! :D |
| 14:50.29 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 14:50.30 | Cide | Lunessa: probably but I haven't verified |
| 14:50.34 | Fisker | Fallout: NV? |
| 14:50.38 | Ackis | no |
| 14:50.42 | Cide | speaking of verification, I'm actually a scientist in my sleep |
| 14:50.48 | Humbedooh | oh? |
| 14:50.54 | Cide | I dreamt there were ants in the ceiling twice during the same night |
| 14:51.01 | Cide | and my girlfriend retold this story to me |
| 14:51.15 | Cide | the first time I woke her up and was like "there are ants in the ceiling!" |
| 14:51.21 | Cide | and she just told me to go back to sleep |
| 14:51.32 | Cide | and then I did it again, but I got my phone to use as a flashlight |
| 14:51.34 | nevcairiel | how is dreaming about ants in your ceiling being a scientist |
| 14:51.44 | Cide | so I climbed up and stood in the bed and she told me to go back to sleep again |
| 14:52.03 | Cide | and I was like "but honey, you have to verify the facts, it's vital!" |
| 14:52.11 | Lunessa | Cide - Whatever you're smoking before bed, you should lay off. |
| 14:52.16 | haste | Cide - insanity right in your bed |
| 14:52.24 | Humbedooh | that's not very scientific ;\ |
| 14:52.26 | Ackis | Lunessa: like usual he was smoking pole |
| 14:52.30 | Cide | very scientific. |
| 14:52.31 | Fisker | haste you say |
| 14:52.44 | haste | Fisker you saw |
| 14:53.07 | Fisker | in da hood |
| 14:53.24 | Fisker | why do norwegians suck haste ? |
| 14:53.31 | Fisker | i wanted my new headset today |
| 14:53.44 | Lunessa | because stacking crit isn't as good? |
| 14:53.46 | Fisker | but you're like "durr how do we send package early enough so he gets it the day after?" |
| 14:54.02 | haste | why would you order from norway? |
| 14:54.04 | Fisker | except in norwegian |
| 14:54.15 | Fisker | http://www.komplett.dk/k/k.aspx <- |
| 14:54.20 | Fisker | They had what i needed |
| 14:54.22 | haste | lulz |
| 14:54.28 | Cide | proof that denmark is evil |
| 14:54.33 | haste | hasn't ordered of komplett in ages. |
| 14:54.35 | Cide | their sites contain with KKK |
| 14:54.36 | haste | that being said |
| 14:54.41 | Cide | s/with// |
| 14:54.42 | Fisker | i usually avoid them |
| 14:54.42 | haste | I got my package today Fisker ! |
| 14:54.45 | angayelle | i'm pulling my hairs with my interface options panel |
| 14:54.49 | haste | only two more to go |
| 14:54.49 | Napoleone | what part prooves that its evil? |
| 14:54.51 | Fisker | But this time they were like 500dkk cheaper than shg.dk |
| 14:55.01 | Fisker | that's messed up |
| 14:55.05 | Cide | www.komplett.dKKK.aspx |
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| 14:55.08 | Humbedooh | that's a norwegian site, Fisker :( |
| 14:55.12 | angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141825 toc file http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141829 xml http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141830 lua |
| 14:55.20 | Fisker | i know Humbedooh |
| 14:55.25 | Fisker | it's danish actually |
| 14:55.28 | angayelle | it should be right, i don't see where the problem is |
| 14:55.29 | Kaelten | Ackis: better send the monies now! :P |
| 14:55.30 | Fisker | but the guys behind it are norwegian |
| 14:55.33 | Fisker | and they send from norway |
| 14:55.37 | Ackis | Kaelten: I gave you my heart! |
| 14:55.47 | Fisker | but you can do day-to-day shipping if you ship early enough |
| 14:55.55 | Fisker | they can't because "herp derp" |
| 14:55.58 | Humbedooh | hey Kaelten! you fix nao! |
| 14:56.21 | Kaelten | Humbedooh: sup? |
| 14:56.41 | Humbedooh | total downloads: 29, downloads of latest revision: 33 - I can has math? :( |
| 14:56.44 | Fisker | sup Kaelten |
| 14:57.11 | Kaelten | Humbedooh: neat |
| 14:57.15 | Kaelten | link? |
| 14:57.20 | Humbedooh | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pocket-gnome.aspx |
| 14:57.33 | Fisker | oh ok Kaelten |
| 14:57.34 | Ackis | http://www.warcraftpets.com/account/profile.asp?user=ackis#col |
| 14:57.36 | Humbedooh | and apparently, 33 divided by 2 gives 1 :> |
| 14:57.38 | Fisker | i'll just talk to myself |
| 14:57.40 | Fisker | hey sup Fisker |
| 14:57.41 | Fisker | sup Fisker? |
| 14:57.51 | Lunessa | Oh, dur... tuesday morning. |
| 14:58.03 | Fisker | moar like thursday evening :( |
| 14:58.06 | Fisker | err |
| 14:58.09 | nevcairiel | Humbedooh: don't bug him with your insignificant statistics. Let him rather fix the search indexing on wowace! |
| 14:58.11 | Fisker | that's one funky timezone |
| 14:58.14 | Cide | durp durp |
| 14:58.16 | Fisker | lets just say tuesday |
| 14:58.46 | Lunessa | I was all "Login server is busy? WTF?" Then I remember, this isn't the weekend. |
| 14:58.56 | Humbedooh | nevcairiel: don't bug him with your egotistical megalomania...think of poor Humbedooh instead! |
| 14:59.15 | Kaelten | Humbedooh: total downloads: 34 avg over 3 days : 1 |
| 14:59.17 | Kaelten | er |
| 14:59.18 | Kaelten | 30 days* |
| 14:59.21 | Kaelten | looks right to me |
| 14:59.40 | Humbedooh | hows about http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/doodlepad.aspx then |
| 14:59.53 | Humbedooh | 374 downloads over 30 days = 2/day :( |
| 15:00.31 | Cide | the math |
| 15:00.33 | Cide | it's borken |
| 15:00.39 | Cide | call the mathcops |
| 15:00.46 | Kaelten | I don't think it's a standard avg |
| 15:00.47 | Humbedooh | maybe october has 200 days in it ;o |
| 15:00.54 | angayelle | hey humbedooh your librairy broke the 10k downloads with my addon |
| 15:01.00 | Kaelten | it may be a decaying avg of some sort |
| 15:01.16 | Humbedooh | I brokesded it? :( |
| 15:01.22 | Cide | why would you do that if it says X downloads over Y days? :P |
| 15:01.24 | foxlit | Maybe it's the current rate, not an average |
| 15:01.28 | angayelle | ehe |
| 15:01.31 | Vilkku | damn I got ninja skills |
| 15:01.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah and remember, nobody knows how anything on curse.com works anymore |
| 15:01.40 | Vilkku | updated my addon before the previous version was approved |
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| 15:02.19 | Humbedooh | the way it's worded on curse.com, it should be a moving average |
| 15:02.22 | foxlit | " have a ticket confirming I would learn 310% flying speed upon getting this mount. If I would need to buy it for 5k now because hallows end if 1 week after the patch I would be very upset :(" |
| 15:02.24 | angayelle | whats is the process for approval on curse btw ? |
| 15:02.41 | foxlit | "because hallows end if 1 week" << what the heck does that mean? How do I even parse it? |
| 15:02.48 | Humbedooh | angayelle: curse or curseforge? |
| 15:02.48 | foxlit | Where's Shirik's natural language bot? |
| 15:02.57 | angayelle | curseforge |
| 15:03.11 | Humbedooh | 1) write a good description of what your mod does |
| 15:03.20 | Lunessa | foxlit - my character with the event mount got 310% speed free. Others will have to pay. |
| 15:03.21 | Humbedooh | 2) don't hard-embed libraries |
| 15:03.39 | foxlit | Lunessa: I still don't follow |
| 15:03.45 | angayelle | i already have my addon on curseforge, just that approval take a lot of time |
| 15:03.49 | Fisker | goodbye Kaelten |
| 15:03.53 | Fisker | preps a nuke |
| 15:03.54 | foxlit | Your event mount will scale with whatever skill you have? |
| 15:04.06 | angayelle | compared to wowinterface |
| 15:04.19 | foxlit | So it really doesn't matter when they patch violet drake to give riding skill? |
| 15:04.23 | Lunessa | foxlit All flying monts scale now. |
| 15:04.35 | foxlit | Yes. So I don't get why anyone would be upset |
| 15:04.42 | Humbedooh | angayelle: ask a moderator :) |
| 15:04.51 | foxlit | At worst, there's some waiting involved, but waiting is cheap |
| 15:04.52 | Arrowmaster | hides |
| 15:04.58 | Lunessa | But, I didn't have to pay 4-5K gold to have the speed /now/ |
| 15:05.15 | angayelle | are interface options panels reloaded upon reloadui ? |
| 15:05.29 | Lunessa | I just had to grind all the world events. Which was punishment enough. |
| 15:05.36 | Humbedooh | yes |
| 15:06.09 | Fisker | you know what sucks foxlit ? |
| 15:06.12 | angayelle | damn something is wrong in my files, at least i wont have to relaunch wow each time |
| 15:06.18 | nevcairiel | foxlit: i think his point was before they announced that violet gives the 310%, that the patch was one week before hallows end, so they wouldnt be able to get it for free |
| 15:06.27 | Fisker | buying 310% riding before they announced they were patching the drake to give 310% riding |
| 15:08.07 | Humbedooh | Fisker: let's get a 900g refund for our dual specs as well! |
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| 15:08.53 | Pup | whats the best way to inform blizz of what appears to be a bug in the api with regards to UnitAura filtering? |
| 15:09.03 | Fisker | different circumstances Humbedooh |
| 15:09.10 | Humbedooh | post it on the cata forum, Pup |
| 15:09.13 | Pup | i posted about it on the eu forums, but i dont think that will get any response |
| 15:09.24 | Pup | since theres never any blue replies on the ui forum there |
| 15:09.26 | Fisker | and actually they will refund the 310% riding skill given the new information, but not everybody may know that |
| 15:09.44 | Arrowmaster | Pup: doesnt EU have a bug report forum too? |
| 15:09.58 | Fisker | eu bug reports = make a ticket |
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| 15:10.03 | Lunessa | Hrm... Do I want pancakes enough to shower/shave and drive to get them? |
| 15:10.04 | Fisker | or post on the GM forums |
| 15:10.48 | Pup | kk, i spose i could try linking my post in the UI & macros forum in the tech support forum |
| 15:11.14 | Pup | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14989560323&sid=1 if anyone is interested, or has any opinion on it |
| 15:11.34 | Cide | Lunessa: I'm making pancakes with whipped cream and raspberry jam |
| 15:11.36 | Cide | do you want some? |
| 15:11.52 | Lunessa | What, no lingonberries? |
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| 15:11.59 | Cide | no... |
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| 15:12.16 | Cide | lingonberries aren't for pancakes |
| 15:12.21 | Lunessa | Actually, that sounds pretty good Cide. It sounds REALLY good. |
| 15:12.22 | Cide | that's absurd! |
| 15:12.35 | Cide | it is |
| 15:12.37 | Cide | you should try it |
| 15:12.40 | Cide | if you haven't |
| 15:13.45 | Lunessa | I have in the past. The problem with whipped cream is that here it comes out of a can most of the time. I'm too lazy to whip it myself. But I want pancakes pretty badly, so I ought to go get some. |
| 15:13.50 | zenzelezz | "It's not like people say "Naturally, fuchsia XOR aqua equals yellow. Any idiot knows that."" |
| 15:15.56 | Jamash | mak your own pancakes you lazy bastard |
| 15:16.01 | Jamash | s/mak/make/ |
| 15:17.01 | Lunessa | Jamash That would require a trip to the supermarket to get ingredients. |
| 15:17.16 | Jamash | make your own ingredients |
| 15:17.40 | Jamash | I don't know |
| 15:18.08 | Lunessa | Fuck that. If I have to work that hard for pancakes, I'm skipping that shit and going straight for the gin. |
| 15:18.19 | Jamash | if I play SC2 offline during bnet maintenance does anything I do count? |
| 15:18.37 | Ackis | lulz "Google Inc. broke privacy laws by collecting personal information from unsecured wireless networks across Canada: Privacy Commissioner." |
| 15:18.55 | Jamash | that whole thing is stupidly idiotically badly moronic |
| 15:18.55 | nevcairiel | the next country jumping on the bandwagon? |
| 15:19.09 | Jamash | "OMG IT'S GOOGLE SO IT MUST BE BAD" |
| 15:19.18 | nevcairiel | They should at least do it all at once, streatching it out isnt really fun, all this spam in the news :p |
| 15:20.04 | Jamash | I don't understand how you can break anyone's privacy by collecting information 1. by accident 2. not using it and 3. anyone with an unsecured wireless network has no expectation of privacy |
| 15:20.17 | Lunessa | Google is a scary place full of collected personal information. And we sign up to fork over more. They day they go ahead and be evil with it we'll all feel stupid. But, hey, it's only provacy. |
| 15:20.37 | Lunessa | privacy even. |
| 15:20.41 | Cide | Lunessa: don't you have a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixer_(cooking) ? |
| 15:20.48 | Ackis | Jamash: your point 3 is an assumption |
| 15:20.55 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:20.57 | Jamash | no it isn't |
| 15:21.15 | Jamash | if you have an unsecured wireless network you are *broadcasting everything* |
| 15:21.30 | alestane | Many people have no concept of how insecure their network is. It never occurs to them that other people could intercept their information. |
| 15:21.38 | Ackis | for us techinical users, yes, but what about normal people? |
| 15:21.39 | Cide | you may have an expectation of privacy but not an educated expectation |
| 15:21.44 | Lunessa | Cide Sadly I do not. My kitchen looks like a college student lives here. I have a whisk, a croc pot, a rice cooker and a small collection of cheap pans. |
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| 15:21.45 | Fisker | you area always broadcasting everything Jamash |
| 15:21.52 | Fisker | are* |
| 15:21.54 | foxlit | "expectation of privacy" is something that seems always wrong in US |
| 15:21.56 | Cide | Lunessa: I'm a college student and I have one! :P |
| 15:22.06 | Cide | but okay |
| 15:22.11 | Ackis | foxlit: in the US there is no expectation of privacy :P |
| 15:22.13 | Cide | then I understand your pain in whipping cream |
| 15:22.13 | Jamash | I figure if I start up an AM radio transmitter and start shouting my social security # then I can't complain when people find out what my social security number is |
| 15:22.13 | foxlit | I mean, people are getting their private communication on facebook revealed because there's "no expectation of privacy" |
| 15:22.16 | Ackis | regardless I'm afk for a meeting :P |
| 15:22.18 | Lunessa | Cide - in a nation not dominated by McDonald's Marketing Division. |
| 15:22.19 | Humbedooh | broadcasting something isn't the same as making it public |
| 15:22.34 | Jamash | yes it is |
| 15:22.37 | nevcairiel | Ackis: you run a insecure wireless here, someone uses it to do bag things on the net, and you're responsible. Being stupid is no excuse |
| 15:22.43 | Cide | it is |
| 15:22.46 | nevcairiel | s/bag/bad/ |
| 15:22.57 | Humbedooh | if I'm inside my house, I'm also, technically, broadcasting myself by sending photons and whatnot out on the street |
| 15:23.08 | Humbedooh | but that doesn't give you the right to take my picture and publish it |
| 15:23.10 | Cide | except said photons don't go through walls |
| 15:23.14 | Cide | you have to stand in a window |
| 15:23.25 | Lunessa | Photons, no. Radio waves, yes. |
| 15:23.34 | Cide | exactly |
| 15:23.36 | Humbedooh | you get the gist :p |
| 15:23.39 | Jamash | I love the complaints filed by morons who admit to broadcasting their private information across unsecured networks without using crypto and claiming that this is google's fault |
| 15:23.48 | Cide | if you have a radio tower in your house you don't expect it to only broadcast indoors do you? |
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| 15:23.52 | amro | radio waves can control my mind, that's why I always wear my special hat. |
| 15:24.01 | amro | hi KarlKFI|home |
| 15:24.02 | Adys | a special hat for my special friend |
| 15:24.22 | nevcairiel | why didn't i see that one coming |
| 15:24.24 | Jamash | if you're broadcasting your personal information *knowingly* then you have no expectation of privacy |
| 15:24.31 | Lunessa | This is why I at least bother to put minimum levels of security on my Wi-Fi network and do all my secure stransactions on a wired line. |
| 15:24.34 | KarlKFI | moo |
| 15:24.43 | nevcairiel | Jamash: people are stupid, its not knowingly, its stupidly :p |
| 15:24.45 | Humbedooh | people are stupid, granted, but legally, they are within their rights to demand it deleted |
| 15:24.46 | Lunessa | amro /tinfolhat! |
| 15:24.53 | Cide | not really |
| 15:25.02 | Cide | it's like you're shouting at your husband |
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| 15:25.04 | Jamash | Demand it deleted, yes. Claim that they were harmed and have standing to sue, no. |
| 15:25.13 | Cide | and demand your neighbors not to listen |
| 15:25.21 | Cide | when they're walking by on the street |
| 15:25.30 | nevcairiel | thats like banning gossip! |
| 15:25.40 | alestane | I guess the question is whether anything you broadcast over an unsecured wireless network should be considered public speech. |
| 15:25.42 | Humbedooh | you can't do that, cide, but you _can_ demand that things that get "saved" be deleted |
| 15:25.46 | Jamash | Yes, it should |
| 15:26.12 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 15:26.16 | Jamash | people have the idea that computers are magic fairy boxes and what you do on a computer is completely different from anything else you ever do |
| 15:26.27 | Lunessa | alestane - you can make an argument that you have a reasonable expectation of privacy because the risks are not explicit. |
| 15:26.30 | Humbedooh | I'm not arguing the philosophy of it - people that sue over it are morons - I'm just pointing out the legality of the matter |
| 15:26.36 | nevcairiel | wait, are you saying there are no fairys involved? |
| 15:26.42 | Cide | Humbedooh: you can demand but it won't legally get you anywhere |
| 15:26.48 | nevcairiel | Humbedooh: USians sue over anything, didnt you know |
| 15:26.50 | Jamash | using an unsecured wifi network is the same as standing on top of your house with a megaphone shouting your credit card number |
| 15:27.08 | amro | the law doesn' |
| 15:27.11 | amro | t protect the gullible |
| 15:27.20 | amro | at least, not generally |
| 15:27.21 | Humbedooh | except it's considered private information, thus you can't use it without consent, Jamash |
| 15:27.30 | Jamash | they're not suing google for using it |
| 15:27.52 | Jamash | if google used it then that would be 100% different |
| 15:27.54 | Humbedooh | no, they're suing them for storing it |
| 15:28.14 | Humbedooh | which, as a company, they can't do without consent or probable cause |
| 15:28.15 | Jamash | these people should be suing themselves, because they're the ones at fault |
| 15:28.32 | Jamash | probable cause? google is a law enforcement agency? |
| 15:28.37 | Humbedooh | the people are idiots, ye - but still, google is not a person, google is a company |
| 15:28.41 | nevcairiel | when your google checkout account comes with credit card information pre-entered, then you can be worried :p |
| 15:28.46 | Lunessa | You could, in the US, argue that the 4th and 5th amendments apply in this case. You can also argue that people are stupid, because well, they are. |
| 15:29.02 | Jamash | look, this is the deal: google has money, they're suing google because google has money, there is nothing more to it |
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| 15:29.10 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 15:29.12 | Fisker | btw Humbedooh |
| 15:29.13 | Humbedooh | Jamash; probably |
| 15:29.20 | Humbedooh | btw Fisker? |
| 15:29.22 | Fisker | by your argument your ISP is breaking the law several times a second |
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| 15:29.44 | Humbedooh | I'm not a company, Fisker |
| 15:29.47 | Jamash | fourth and fifth amendments? seriously? |
| 15:29.59 | Fisker | i didn't call you a company Humbedooh |
| 15:30.02 | Jamash | have you ever read the constitution? |
| 15:30.07 | alestane | I think they're at least as likely to be suing Google because it is always easier to blame someone else for the things you forgot to protect yourself against. |
| 15:30.10 | Humbedooh | and this isn't considered private information in that aspect |
| 15:30.24 | Lunessa | Seriously. Search and Seizure and " nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation." |
| 15:30.31 | Humbedooh | it's considered private if I use it out of this context mayhap |
| 15:30.40 | Jamash | google isn't the government |
| 15:30.57 | Lunessa | Jamash I'm aware of this. I'm just saying that a good lawyer could make the case. |
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| 15:31.17 | alestane | The Constitution doesn't necessarily restrict only the government's actions, eitehr. |
| 15:31.24 | Humbedooh | the privacy laws are probably being broken every second we talk in here - we just don't give a rats ass about it |
| 15:31.24 | Jamash | a good lawyer wouldn't touch the case with a 10 foot pole |
| 15:31.40 | Jamash | hey guess what, you can find out my IP address |
| 15:31.40 | amro | irrelevant |
| 15:31.53 | Jamash | Jamash is connecting from *@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net 99.92.174.69 |
| 15:32.01 | Humbedooh | technically, it's not yours ;( |
| 15:32.04 | Jamash | I'ma sue you for accessing my ip address without permission |
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| 15:32.15 | amro | filing a lawsuit and actually getting a ruling are not the same thing jamash |
| 15:32.23 | nevcairiel | you know, irc is the place where hackers meet! |
| 15:32.23 | MonkeyButt | Anyone here know a way to take a unix app that is running in the foreground and moving it to a screen? |
| 15:32.30 | Jamash | you can file a lawsuit for literally any reason |
| 15:32.30 | Lunessa | I don't know. The EFF would probably get behind a case involving a large, wealthy coroporation siphoning information - even accidentally - with vans that drive around the city. |
| 15:32.33 | MonkeyButt | I have a long running proc that I don't wan tto lose, but I want to leave my computer =) |
| 15:32.48 | amro | a screen as in? |
| 15:32.50 | amro | try man screen |
| 15:32.53 | Fisker | Well i don't know about batshit insane US, but in the EU we understand that there can exist copies of data that violate privacy, copyright, or other laws, even though not intentionally doing so |
| 15:33.06 | amro | also, a talking monkey butt |
| 15:33.10 | Jamash | ctrl z pauses a process but I don't know how to resume it in a different terminal |
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| 15:33.46 | Humbedooh | Fisker: as amro said, there's a difference between the legality and any actual ruling |
| 15:33.49 | Lunessa | Fisker - duh. |
| 15:34.15 | Jamash | Google should have been told "don't do it again" and that should have been the end of it. |
| 15:34.27 | Humbedooh | oh but they did it again :> |
| 15:34.29 | Humbedooh | and again :> |
| 15:34.35 | Jamash | do tell |
| 15:34.51 | Humbedooh | they've done it in pretty much every country they've been in |
| 15:34.54 | Fisker | Google should've been told "Thanks for putting a focus on this issue" |
| 15:34.59 | Napoleone | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.29 | Humbedooh | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.37 | Humbedooh | _G["PPpb" .. (i - 1)] plox |
| 15:35.41 | Napoleone | get the same error with 1 [ |
| 15:35.53 | Fisker | Hopefully moar e-mail providers will start using POP3 over SSL and shit |
| 15:35.53 | Napoleone | all of em need _G aaah |
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| 15:36.46 | Humbedooh | if they are globals, yes :) |
| 15:37.11 | Napoleone | _G["PPpb"..i]:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", _G["PPpb" .. (i - 1)], "BOTTOMLEFT", 0 , 0) gives now attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) hmm |
| 15:37.53 | amro | _G["PPpb" .. i] is nil |
| 15:37.55 | alestane | Did you try to call this with i == 1? |
| 15:39.00 | Napoleone | i =2 |
| 15:39.24 | Humbedooh | well then PPpb2 doesn't exist :) |
| 15:39.45 | Napoleone | Humbedooh omfg forgot the createframe part lollllolololol |
| 15:39.52 | Humbedooh | .... |
| 15:40.04 | MonkeyButt | amro: I cannot see how to create a screen from my current tty, so I can resume a background process. |
| 15:40.21 | Humbedooh | create a screen? |
| 15:40.40 | amro | personally I use dtach |
| 15:41.08 | Jamash | screen is a unix utility that lets you create virtual terminals |
| 15:41.42 | amro | if I understand right, he wants to be able to close his terminal without killing the process |
| 15:41.46 | Arrowmaster | you cant move a running process into screen that wasnt started inside screen |
| 15:41.47 | amro | in which case screen/dtach is what he needs |
| 15:41.48 | Jamash | yep |
| 15:41.51 | Humbedooh | screen is also a big rectangular thing on your desktop :> |
| 15:42.03 | amro | also what Arrowmaster said |
| 15:42.08 | Jamash | the question is how can you take a process that isn't already running in screen and put it into screen |
| 15:42.30 | Arrowmaster | depending on the shell you can disable it from sending HUP to all processing running inside it when it exits |
| 15:42.39 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: you cant |
| 15:42.53 | Jamash | orly? |
| 15:42.59 | Arrowmaster | yarly |
| 15:43.06 | Jamash | oooooooooooooooooooooooooorly? |
| 15:43.06 | Humbedooh | well you _could_ if the program was designed to support it |
| 15:43.14 | Humbedooh | through some sort of server/client system |
| 15:43.36 | Computerpunk | angayelle, sup? |
| 15:43.47 | angayelle | hello |
| 15:43.55 | Arrowmaster | that would still imply that the process connected to the tty is restarted |
| 15:44.15 | angayelle | haven't done the sketch up already, still trying to sort my interface option problem |
| 15:44.30 | MonkeyButt | there's too many freaking new BLPs |
| 15:44.34 | MonkeyButt | this conversion is taking forever |
| 15:45.06 | Computerpunk | angayelle, I'm not stressing you. |
| 15:45.07 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 15:45.12 | Computerpunk | Hope I'm not* |
| 15:45.14 | Computerpunk | I'm not even asking. |
| 15:45.21 | angayelle | ehe np, just reporting |
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| 15:46.49 | MonkeyButt | maybe I can use nohup or disown |
| 15:46.49 | MonkeyButt | investigates |
| 15:47.25 | Computerpunk | lua> print(218/255, 231/255, 31/255) |
| 15:47.25 | lua_bot | Computerpunk: 0.85490196078431, 0.90588235294118, 0.12156862745098 |
| 15:47.39 | Computerpunk | Nice tints on Holy POwer. |
| 15:47.39 | Computerpunk | xd |
| 15:47.52 | Arrowmaster | i doubt you can use nohup on it since its already running |
| 15:48.18 | MonkeyButt | som versions take a pid, but yeah |
| 15:48.21 | Arrowmaster | not sure about disown since i dont have that |
| 15:48.26 | amro | [16:47] <Computerpunk> Nice tits on Holy POwer. |
| 15:48.45 | Computerpunk | amro, you fail at pretending to be Adys. |
| 15:49.01 | Jamash | disown %1 |
| 15:49.17 | Jamash | oh I'm late |
| 15:49.24 | Arrowmaster | hmm i have disown but no manual entry for it |
| 15:49.25 | amro | Computerpunk, you fail at pretending to be funny |
| 15:49.45 | Computerpunk | amro, you fail at sensing my seriousness. |
| 15:50.02 | Arrowmaster | but yeah C-Z, bg %1, disown %1 should work |
| 15:50.16 | amro | Computerpunk, you fail. |
| 15:50.23 | amro | I win |
| 15:50.26 | Computerpunk | amro, you astronomically fail. |
| 15:50.43 | Computerpunk | I can beat you at the: gimme a bigger number game. |
| 15:50.44 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 15:50.50 | amro | no, you can't |
| 15:50.52 | Computerpunk | yes. |
| 15:50.53 | amro | 1/0 |
| 15:50.54 | Jamash | you don't have a manual entry because it's a bash builtin, use "help disown" |
| 15:50.54 | MonkeyButt | yeah disown does it =) |
| 15:50.55 | amro | I win |
| 15:50.58 | Computerpunk | I'll say: complex i. |
| 15:51.02 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.huge |
| 15:51.03 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: inf |
| 15:51.04 | Computerpunk | there is no power level. |
| 15:51.05 | Arrowmaster | i win |
| 15:51.11 | MonkeyButt | just disappears from pstree, cause its disowned from init as well =) |
| 15:51.13 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: i dont use bash |
| 15:51.20 | MonkeyButt | so I'll haev to keep checking to see if its done =) |
| 15:51.22 | Computerpunk | Arrowmaster, there is no comparison thing for complex numbers. |
| 15:51.22 | Jamash | I guess you suck |
| 15:51.23 | Computerpunk | ty very much |
| 15:51.29 | Adys | Computerpunk: I bet you had to train a lot for that game, what with every girl being used to much, much smaller numbers with you. |
| 15:51.52 | Computerpunk | Adys, nah, my maths teacher showed me today. |
| 15:52.02 | amro | daaaahhh |
| 15:52.08 | amro | tmi |
| 15:52.09 | Computerpunk | l2p. |
| 15:52.09 | amro | tmi |
| 15:52.33 | Computerpunk | tru dat amro. |
| 15:52.38 | Computerpunk | we had a wild one. |
| 15:52.43 | Jamash | Computerpunk: 2i |
| 15:52.54 | Jamash | bam |
| 15:52.58 | Computerpunk | Jamash, you fail to comprehend that comparison is impossible between complex numbers. |
| 15:52.58 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 15:53.04 | Jamash | you fail at math |
| 15:53.07 | amro | ^ |
| 15:53.16 | amro | complex numbers are just vectors |
| 15:53.20 | Computerpunk | http://www.cut-the-knot.org/do_you_know/complex_compare.shtml |
| 15:53.28 | Computerpunk | ty very much |
| 15:53.39 | Jamash | you continue to fail at math |
| 15:53.42 | amro | yes |
| 15:53.45 | amro | you can compare vectors |
| 15:53.50 | amro | my vector is bigger than your vector |
| 15:54.06 | Jamash | did you read the page you linked? |
| 15:54.26 | Computerpunk | I did jamash. |
| 15:54.35 | zenzelezz | was it consensual? |
| 15:54.39 | Adys | if you're gonna give math lessons to people, at least know wtf you're talking about |
| 15:54.44 | Adys | or be better at pretending to do so |
| 15:55.01 | Computerpunk | :o |
| 15:55.05 | Computerpunk | ilu2. |
| 15:55.07 | nicoli_s | thats what adys does, hes the best pretender |
| 15:55.17 | Adys | I got a lot of training nicoli_s |
| 15:55.25 | Jamash | seriously, what kind of moron thinks that multiplication preserves inequalities |
| 15:55.30 | Jamash | 1 < 2 |
| 15:55.49 | Jamash | (-1)*1 < (-1)*2 |
| 15:55.53 | Jamash | -1 < -2 |
| 15:55.54 | Computerpunk | uhm |
| 15:55.59 | Cide | multiplying by a negative number doesn't preserve it |
| 15:56.00 | Computerpunk | -1 sign is done to the "<" too. |
| 15:56.04 | Computerpunk | therefore. |
| 15:56.05 | amro | no |
| 15:56.10 | Cide | neither does multiplying by a number (0, 1) |
| 15:56.19 | Torhal | Hey, now. When did we start talking religion? |
| 15:56.25 | Jamash | again, did you read the page you linked? |
| 15:57.01 | Computerpunk | I see no place where that is written Jamash. Multiplication does preserve it if you go by the rules of math. |
| 15:57.02 | Cide | actually |
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| 15:57.11 | Adys | Computerpunk: tip from someone who knows how to pretend shit. If you're beat, admit your defeat before ridiculing yourself too much in front of others |
| 15:57.13 | Cide | there are rules for multiplication and division and negation to preserve inequalities |
| 15:57.23 | Cide | but they aren't as naive as you make it out to be Jamash |
| 15:57.37 | Jamash | and the dude on that page multiplies i by i and is surprised to get -1 |
| 15:57.39 | Computerpunk | Adys, np. I'm immune to such reactions. |
| 15:57.56 | Jamash | Computerpunk: ah, invincible stupidity |
| 15:57.59 | Computerpunk | Uhm. i isn't negative. |
| 15:58.06 | Computerpunk | i^2 is negative, yes. |
| 15:58.12 | Jamash | HOLY SHIT HE GETS IT |
| 15:58.13 | amro | !!!!!!! |
| 15:58.16 | amro | rofl |
| 15:58.21 | Computerpunk | You don't multiply by i^2 |
| 15:58.24 | Computerpunk | You multiply by i. |
| 15:58.25 | Computerpunk | Ty very much. |
| 15:58.31 | Computerpunk | Go home, learn maths, come back, rinse and repeat. |
| 15:58.33 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.35 | amro | wow |
| 15:58.37 | Jamash | QUOTED BITCH |
| 15:58.52 | Adys | Computerpunk: I'm just saying, admitting defeat while the idiocy level is still low is smarter than admitting it when it's through the roof |
| 15:58.58 | Adys | atm you're just being an arrogant dick |
| 15:58.59 | Humbedooh | uhm phail, Jamash? :( |
| 15:59.04 | Adys | and it's not helping you |
| 15:59.07 | Computerpunk | oh, yeah, so by that rule, you do multiplication by -1, then do it again. And you get a valid law of what? |
| 15:59.51 | Jamash | send me a /msg when you start making sense |
| 16:00.14 | amro | I wouldn't check for messages anytime soon then Jamash |
| 16:00.25 | Jamash | I'll give it a week |
| 16:01.34 | Jamash | I'll just refer back to your own dumbass statement: "I can beat you at the: gimme a bigger number game." |
| 16:01.49 | Jamash | then you claim that i is incomperable |
| 16:01.56 | Jamash | by your own logic that makes it not bigger |
| 16:02.05 | amro | incomparable* |
| 16:02.05 | Computerpunk | with that, I agree. :p |
| 16:02.14 | Jamash | spelling is fun |
| 16:02.29 | Computerpunk | Other than that, your own logic fails to work. |
| 16:02.45 | Jamash | what logic? I'm merely pointing out that you're wrong |
| 16:02.55 | Computerpunk | Your logic to point that out is wrong. :o |
| 16:03.04 | amro | yes jamash but if you multiply your logic by -1 |
| 16:03.06 | amro | it's wrong! |
| 16:03.13 | Jamash | Computerpunk: your face is wrong |
| 16:03.19 | Computerpunk | :o verbal attack! |
| 16:03.21 | Computerpunk | RETREAT! |
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| 16:03.25 | Computerpunk | BRING THE ION CANNON! |
| 16:03.26 | Computerpunk | RAMIREZ! |
| 16:04.20 | Lunessa | Now, shall we see what swort of a swordsman youve become, pendejo? |
| 16:04.47 | amro | swort |
| 16:04.50 | amro | nice one Lunessa |
| 16:05.15 | Lunessa | Hey, I'm a lousy typist. This is a well-established facet of reality. |
| 16:05.37 | Jamash | you may be the greatest swordsman on the planet, but *I* am the greatest swordsman in the galaxy |
| 16:06.08 | Lunessa | Get used to disapointment. |
| 16:08.12 | amro | I'm worse |
| 16:08.35 | amro | but that wasn't a typo, you were thinking ahead of what you were typing (sword+sort = swort) |
| 16:08.43 | Jamash | bort? |
| 16:08.59 | Jamash | name the reference and win an internet |
| 16:09.07 | amro | I already have one |
| 16:09.18 | amro | and I have a feeling you're the only one who knows that reference |
| 16:09.24 | Jamash | well, yes |
| 16:09.26 | Lopeppeppy | sorta... |
| 16:10.14 | TC-Work | anyone know or pgrogame that lets you test a webpage in all major browsers? |
| 16:10.21 | TC-Work | .... |
| 16:10.33 | TC-Work | anyone know a site or program* |
| 16:10.44 | Lunessa | TC-Work just out-typo'ed me in one entry. |
| 16:10.58 | TC-Work | yea, like i have never done that before |
| 16:11.06 | Lopeppeppy | Meeps. |
| 16:11.20 | Jamash | http://www.arthursbookshelf.com/sci-fi/bester/demolish.htm |
| 16:11.28 | Jamash | I should have said dort, actually |
| 16:12.27 | Jamash | we need to get christopher nolan to do the movie version |
| 16:13.15 | industrial | woop woop roguelol http://images.gammatester.com/pics/d6f2a8d8c7c53f7b85a56179d2548f87.jpg |
| 16:14.01 | Jamash | what level? |
| 16:14.05 | industrial | 39 |
| 16:14.14 | Fisker | me industrial |
| 16:14.29 | amro | Jamash: wtf, did he spell Atkins @kins? |
| 16:14.34 | industrial | silly Fisker, levels are for chars not Fisker |
| 16:14.40 | Jamash | you've never read the demolished man? |
| 16:14.53 | industrial | I really wanna do AB tho, WG sucks |
| 16:15.17 | Jamash | It won the first Hugo |
| 16:16.19 | amro | I don't care, @kins pisses me off |
| 16:16.23 | Jamash | good |
| 16:16.29 | Jamash | it gets worse |
| 16:17.04 | Jamash | Powell found Jo ¼maine, Attorney-At-Law 2, in the crowd. He shot him a telepathic greeting. |
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| 16:18.48 | nevcairiel | TC-Work: browsershots.org |
| 16:19.12 | nevcairiel | its sometimes a bit slow though |
| 16:19.36 | TC-Work | nevcairiel: yea, found it, thanks |
| 16:19.42 | TC-Work | and it is, ~52 min queue |
| 16:20.15 | Jamash | faster to install firefox safari opera and chrome |
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| 16:20.46 | TC-Work | no kidding |
| 16:21.58 | Jamash | google has street view for antarctical? |
| 16:22.10 | Jamash | s/cal/ca/ |
| 16:22.55 | nevcairiel | Jamash: yeah, its kidna awesome, too |
| 16:23.31 | Fisker | i will destroy you Jamash |
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| 16:23.35 | Jamash | cool |
| 16:23.39 | Fisker | how do they have street view for antartica? |
| 16:23.41 | MoonWitch | soooooooo |
| 16:23.44 | Fisker | can't be many streets there |
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| 16:23.48 | nevcairiel | Fisker: ice roads! |
| 16:24.00 | MoonWitch | apparently I screwed over my linux install by installing nvidia drivers |
| 16:24.04 | nevcairiel | they went there with a snowmobile and a google cam on top |
| 16:24.05 | Jamash | where we're going, we don't need roads |
| 16:24.06 | angayelle | in my xml i am forced to call a function when using OnClick or can i call directly an api like CombustionFrame:EnableMouse(true) |
| 16:24.09 | MoonWitch | textbased irc |
| 16:24.09 | angayelle | ? |
| 16:24.26 | haste | always uses text-based IRC> |
| 16:24.27 | Fisker | i can you |
| 16:24.29 | Jamash | angayelle: you can just call stuff directly |
| 16:24.31 | Fisker | you haste |
| 16:24.39 | MoonWitch | haste, you might be able to help me out a little |
| 16:24.54 | angayelle | ah perfect it save me the hassle of building a function for each |
| 16:24.56 | haste | I migth be able to do a lot of stuff~ |
| 16:24.58 | haste | :3 |
| 16:25.10 | angayelle | is there a special syntax to use api in xml or ? |
| 16:25.16 | Jamash | nope |
| 16:25.21 | MoonWitch | you wouldn't happen to know how I can circumvent startx giving me the " no screen error" |
| 16:25.22 | angayelle | excellent thanks alot |
| 16:25.23 | nevcairiel | angayelle: if you do more then a couple if lines, you should switch to functions, though |
| 16:25.29 | nevcairiel | s/if/of/ |
| 16:25.32 | nevcairiel | arghl |
| 16:25.35 | nevcairiel | read my mind, purl! |
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| 16:25.53 | angayelle | can i set variables from xml too ? |
| 16:26.04 | angayelle | savedvariables to be precise |
| 16:26.05 | Jamash | you can do anything, at zombocom |
| 16:26.27 | Jamash | scripts in xml are just lua snippets, you can do anything you can do in lua, in xml |
| 16:26.36 | angayelle | oki |
| 16:27.26 | MoonWitch | there's nothing like a good issue with a pc to get an appetite :) |
| 16:27.53 | MoonWitch | and Haste, textbased irc isn't bad at all to be honest.. I did however hope to run wow from ubuntu :P |
| 16:28.07 | MoonWitch | (alt + f keys to the win) |
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| 16:28.35 | Jamash | http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=-62.594365,-59.895184&spn=0.000664,0.002162&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=-62.594365,-59.895184&panoid=fotSYjwwmyBkBqPdcTE91w&cbp=12,243.88,,0,-2.11 |
| 16:28.40 | Jamash | PENGUINS |
| 16:28.58 | foxlit | PENGUINS? |
| 16:29.09 | Jamash | PENGUINS! |
| 16:30.12 | Fisker | hey Jamash |
| 16:30.36 | Jamash | PENGUINS! |
| 16:31.27 | haste | MoonWitch: no screen generally means... no screen configured |
| 16:31.54 | haste | MoonWitch: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.*.log |
| 16:32.38 | Fisker | you wouldn't haste |
| 16:32.38 | amro | haste: it also says that if your drivers are borked, even if there's a screen entry |
| 16:32.40 | Computerpunk | damn |
| 16:32.42 | Computerpunk | so ugly outside |
| 16:32.42 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 16:33.19 | haste | amro: hence the grep |
| 16:33.24 | haste | and hence the generally :P |
| 16:33.26 | Computerpunk | oh god. |
| 16:33.26 | Fisker | acts all internet tough and shit haste |
| 16:33.29 | Computerpunk | raining like mad. |
| 16:34.00 | amro | haste: oh, yeh |
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| 16:34.54 | Jamash | ALL WILL BURN BENEATH THE SHADOW OF MY WINGS |
| 16:35.22 | MoonWitch | yeah, no devices detected :( |
| 16:35.49 | MoonWitch | amro : I installed the nvidia prop drivers lol I think that was my mistake |
| 16:35.52 | haste | so what did your nvidia-drivers install say? |
| 16:36.08 | amro | MoonWitch: they should work. try running sudo nvidia-xconfig |
| 16:36.10 | Jamash | Moonwitch: Did you use the ubuntu device manager? |
| 16:36.22 | amro | it should output a valid Xorg.conf |
| 16:36.39 | amro | I'm guessing you installed the prop drivers, but xorg.conf wasn't updated |
| 16:36.49 | MoonWitch | yeah I just found that out |
| 16:36.59 | MoonWitch | it's the config in xorg.conf that's missing |
| 16:37.08 | amro | did you run nvidia-xconfig? |
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| 16:37.49 | MoonWitch | it backed up the current one, made a new one -- same error though |
| 16:38.13 | amro | there are probably more details than that |
| 16:38.19 | Jamash | brb hash browns and eggs and stuff |
| 16:39.27 | amro | modprobe -l nvidia |
| 16:39.29 | amro | MoonWitch: ^ |
| 16:39.32 | amro | do you get any output? |
| 16:39.35 | ckknight | Jamash: I will walk the earth forever, and my hunger shall know no bounds |
| 16:40.48 | MoonWitch | nope , no output |
| 16:41.02 | MoonWitch | which probably isn't good |
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| 16:43.03 | MoonWitch | controller is listed correctly with lspci though |
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| 16:43.11 | MoonWitch | but afk -- cooking food as well :P |
| 16:45.13 | Lunessa | Now I really am going to go get pancakes. All this food talk pushed me over the edge. |
| 16:50.03 | Cide | I'm making pancakes right now |
| 16:50.05 | Cide | too bad he left already |
| 16:50.35 | Shirik | sooo |
| 16:50.42 | MoonWitch | is eating some steamed veggies |
| 16:50.56 | Shirik | I'm reading the tag on my shirt. It says it in many languages, with "F: " before the french part, "J: " before japanese part, RU: before russian part |
| 16:51.07 | Shirik | Before the english part, though, it puts "GB: " |
| 16:51.27 | Shirik | After being annoyed for a few seconds, I'm like "ok maybe they didn't realize they'll sell to the USA" so I keep reading it |
| 16:51.33 | Shirik | and then they spell it "colors" not "colours" |
| 16:51.37 | Shirik | it's not even british english |
| 16:51.48 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 16:52.29 | zenzelezz | Shirik: maybe it means Greatly Brutalised |
| 16:55.16 | MoonWitch | amused by mom trying to light a woodstove |
| 16:55.32 | MoonWitch | she's been at it for 30min |
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| 16:58.43 | MoonWitch | anyhow back to fixing this |
| 17:00.17 | Shirik | MoonWitch don't be mean to your mom :( |
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| 17:01.06 | amro | MoonWitch: run the installer again |
| 17:01.11 | amro | and are you sure it's the latest one? |
| 17:03.08 | angayelle | self:GetChecked() will return state for whatever frame call it right ? |
| 17:03.31 | nevcairiel | don't only CheckButtons have that method? |
| 17:04.00 | angayelle | i would assume that slider:getvalue too |
| 17:04.16 | angayelle | ah nah that's a value, not a state |
| 17:04.33 | angayelle | so maybe ckeckbuttons indeed |
| 17:05.24 | MoonWitch | amro I haven't a clue to be honest, normally the latest drivers are auto-selected (it's a new install) |
| 17:06.56 | Adys | MoonWitch: whats the problem? |
| 17:08.56 | amro | MoonWitch: oh, you mean you installed them using the ubuntu thing? |
| 17:09.01 | MoonWitch | I installed Ubuntu, got the updates, installed nvidia prop drivers, rebooted and can't startx |
| 17:09.02 | amro | I thought you installed from nvidia's website |
| 17:09.04 | MoonWitch | yes |
| 17:09.06 | MoonWitch | no |
| 17:09.14 | Adys | use the ones from nvidia website |
| 17:09.16 | MoonWitch | i installed them from within ubuntu |
| 17:09.17 | amro | ^ |
| 17:09.23 | MoonWitch | yeah i'll go try that |
| 17:10.11 | industrial | lmao AB is even more fun |
| 17:10.13 | industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5b25c8989cb93681c7107f47a265973c.jpg |
| 17:10.24 | amro | Shirik, did you know |
| 17:10.29 | amro | if a reaper's hp drops to 0 he will die |
| 17:10.42 | angayelle | it look like the OnClick event for a check button only fire on checking but not on unchecking, am i rite ? |
| 17:11.02 | angayelle | it should do bot no ? |
| 17:11.05 | angayelle | both ? |
| 17:11.31 | Shirik | no I did not amro |
| 17:11.35 | Shirik | thanks for telling me |
| 17:12.41 | angayelle | well it's not even an actual so meh |
| 17:13.24 | amro | no problem Shirik |
| 17:13.29 | amro | also if you're supply blocked |
| 17:13.31 | amro | build a supply debot |
| 17:13.36 | amro | and you will no longer be supply blocked |
| 17:13.43 | Shirik | where did you learn these tips |
| 17:14.01 | amro | I decompiled StarCraft II.exe |
| 17:15.51 | amro | insane Terran AI has an all in build |
| 17:15.56 | amro | just lol |
| 17:18.19 | foxlit | I'm mildly annoyed AI has "builds" |
| 17:18.25 | foxlit | Can't it figure them out every time instead? |
| 17:19.12 | Cide | hm? |
| 17:19.16 | Cide | humans also have builds |
| 17:19.25 | Cide | and making an AI is hard |
| 17:19.52 | foxlit | Cide: computationally, peanuts. |
| 17:20.12 | foxlit | It's basically doing nothing until it has some combat units; plenty of time to figure out what to build |
| 17:20.17 | cbreak | I am a human, and I play without a build... |
| 17:20.29 | cbreak | Believe me: if you want to win, that's not the right way. |
| 17:20.30 | nicoli_s | amro:you didnt send me yer replay |
| 17:20.49 | amro | nicoli_s: I only just rebooted, how did you know? |
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| 17:20.57 | amro | nsinkule at curse right? |
| 17:21.00 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 17:21.15 | amro | ill try uploading it again first |
| 17:21.23 | nicoli_s | theres a pretty good chance i know the issue and its fixed locally but want to make sure |
| 17:21.49 | Cide | foxlit: I think it's the "figuring out" part that's difficult |
| 17:21.57 | Cide | and you also want to have some variety for the opponent |
| 17:22.28 | foxlit | Cide: "I want some units" |
| 17:22.35 | foxlit | "Hm, I need some buildings to build some units" |
| 17:22.42 | foxlit | "Hm, I need minerals to get those buildings" |
| 17:22.49 | Cide | what's that have to do with dynamically picking a strategy? |
| 17:22.51 | foxlit | "Oh crap, I must construct additional pylons" |
| 17:23.06 | Cide | unless you mean they have set build orders |
| 17:23.21 | Cide | which wouldn't be impossible to get around but no real point in doing it either |
| 17:23.21 | foxlit | I'm imagining that's what a "build" is |
| 17:23.32 | Cide | a build isn't a build order to me |
| 17:23.48 | Cide | a build is your target unit composition etc |
| 17:24.03 | Cide | to me anyway |
| 17:24.14 | Cide | depends on the level of detail obviously |
| 17:24.18 | foxlit | Mm, but that's a function of "What do I expect my opponent to have?" |
| 17:24.25 | Cide | right |
| 17:24.28 | foxlit | The AI should totally meta-cheat by looking at your past games for that. |
| 17:24.46 | Cide | totally |
| 17:25.03 | Cide | let's also make them be world champions in chess while we're at it |
| 17:25.16 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/19/funny-pictures-cornered-us/ |
| 17:25.49 | foxlit | My impression is that it honestly isn't that bad -- barring localized actions, there really isn't *that much* choice |
| 17:26.30 | Shirik | cide |
| 17:26.33 | Shirik | you and I should be world champions |
| 17:26.37 | foxlit | So if you knew that your opponent typically has 5 marines 2 minutes into the game, plan accordingly -- want to construct units to deal with those |
| 17:27.04 | amro | nicoli_s: parses fine now, did you make an update in the meantime? |
| 17:27.07 | Cide | Shirik: yes, I'd like that |
| 17:27.47 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/19/funny-pictures-use-da-same-brush/, zenzelezz. |
| 17:28.27 | nicoli_s | amro:nope :P |
| 17:28.33 | nicoli_s | might have just been a timeout or a DB lock |
| 17:28.38 | amro | probably |
| 17:28.44 | nicoli_s | we have been having some framework issues we are working out |
| 17:28.48 | amro | http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/93111-1v1-zerg-lost-temple Cide^ |
| 17:29.01 | amro | nicoli_s: what does the site run on? |
| 17:29.49 | Shirik | so wait |
| 17:30.02 | Shirik | I just found out that the active ingredient in ED drugs is nitric oxide |
| 17:30.11 | Shirik | can't you buy that at like a GNC for a ton less? |
| 17:31.25 | Cide | do it |
| 17:31.27 | Shirik | no |
| 17:31.29 | Cide | make your own drugs |
| 17:31.35 | Cide | unrelated |
| 17:31.36 | Shirik | I can't take nitric oxide |
| 17:31.42 | Cide | why not? |
| 17:31.45 | Shirik | it's a good way to give me a heart attack :P |
| 17:31.47 | Shirik | Because I'm hyperthyroid |
| 17:31.54 | Cide | you're weak |
| 17:31.58 | Shirik | I am weak too |
| 17:32.16 | Cide | how should I explain return values to someone who is learning how to program? |
| 17:32.25 | Shirik | Where are they coming from? |
| 17:32.31 | Shirik | For EEs I try to explain functions as IC |
| 17:32.32 | Shirik | ICs |
| 17:32.35 | Cide | playing computer games |
| 17:32.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:32.53 | Cide | (introductory course in python, first year of university) |
| 17:33.01 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (~DWSR@unaffiliated/dwsr) |
| 17:33.24 | DWSR | Cide: As a response to the instruction that you gave the computer. |
| 17:33.38 | Cide | at first he thought returning a variable made the variable global |
| 17:34.07 | Cide | DWSR: that was the best and most helpful advice I've ever heard from you |
| 17:34.12 | Shirik | Well first you explain the purpose of a function |
| 17:34.15 | amro | probably because there are shitty languages where you return by assigning to the function name |
| 17:34.19 | Shirik | It takes some input and produces some output |
| 17:34.29 | Cide | amro: this is his first programming language |
| 17:34.34 | Shirik | The return is that output |
| 17:34.35 | DWSR | Cide: You're welcome. |
| 17:34.36 | amro | any math background? |
| 17:34.43 | Cide | not much |
| 17:34.58 | zenzelezz | Cide: how silly do you want to get? Tell them it's like a bank teller handing you money after you pass them a note asking for it |
| 17:34.59 | amro | I usually start with something like f(x)=x^2+1 and go from there |
| 17:34.59 | DWSR | I'm more than just a Fisker. |
| 17:35.04 | DWSR | I'm a smart Fisker. |
| 17:35.27 | amro | zenzelezz: that would lead to interesting analogies for exceptions and errors |
| 17:35.36 | DWSR | amro: You don't have enough money. |
| 17:35.37 | Cide | and it wouldn't explain his issues :P |
| 17:36.30 | Cide | example code was... "def foo(): a = 1; return a; foo(); print a" |
| 17:37.10 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o-TeMHys0&feature=youtu.be <-- Win |
| 17:37.27 | amro | Cide: imo, "def foo(): return 1; print(foo())" |
| 17:37.57 | Shirik | well you see |
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| 17:38.12 | Shirik | if you stopped using a crappy language like python |
| 17:38.14 | Shirik | he might understand it better |
| 17:38.32 | zenzelezz | yes, since return values are fundamentally different between languages |
| 17:40.27 | Jamash | Shirik: I would be highly entertained to learn what you think is less crappy than python |
| 17:40.32 | Shirik | C++ |
| 17:40.38 | Jamash | ~failrik |
| 17:40.38 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 17:40.58 | Cide | Shirik: that wouldn't help I don't think |
| 17:41.04 | nicoli_s | amro:the site runs on a custom made asp.net MVS framework |
| 17:41.07 | nicoli_s | MVC* |
| 17:41.33 | amro | C# I presume? |
| 17:41.37 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 17:41.40 | amro | cool |
| 17:41.53 | nicoli_s | all our new sites are made using it now |
| 17:42.04 | Jamash | "Actually I made up the term 'object-oriented', and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind." - Alan Kay |
| 17:42.08 | nicoli_s | its pretty sweet, development is really fast |
| 17:42.23 | nicoli_s | and we use code generation to help with alot of stuff |
| 17:43.04 | nicoli_s | so pretty much every basic interaction between models gets generated as long as the appropriate link(foriegn key, index, etc) is there |
| 17:43.57 | Humbedooh | thinks the notion alone, that one language is more superior than another, is stupid and silly and not kitten friendly. |
| 17:44.04 | foxlit | http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/93111-1v1-zerg-lost-temple |
| 17:44.16 | DWSR | There are some seriously bad languages. |
| 17:44.16 | DWSR | Like Brainfuck. |
| 17:44.18 | DWSR | or LOLCAT |
| 17:44.20 | Shirik | wait wait |
| 17:44.20 | Jamash | BF isn't bad |
| 17:44.21 | Humbedooh | LOLCODE! |
| 17:44.22 | foxlit | question: does it detect the select the strategy labels automatically? |
| 17:44.27 | Shirik | bees inject venom? |
| 17:44.30 | DWSR | foxlit: Yes. |
| 17:44.30 | nicoli_s | yes foxlit |
| 17:44.30 | Jamash | it's intentionally that way |
| 17:44.31 | DWSR | Shirik: Yes. |
| 17:44.35 | foxlit | Nice. |
| 17:44.38 | Shirik | Why are we not all susceptable to that? |
| 17:44.39 | nicoli_s | its based on a simple algorithim |
| 17:44.44 | Jamash | Shirik: We are? |
| 17:44.54 | Shirik | isn't that what makes allergic people alergic? |
| 17:44.55 | Jamash | Bee stings hurt mang. |
| 17:44.55 | foxlit | nicoli_s: I'm sure you just have a bunch of heuristics in there. |
| 17:45.02 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 17:45.03 | DWSR | Shirik: Because everyone's body chemistry is slightly different. |
| 17:45.08 | *** part/#wowuidev xyn (~mwm@pdpc/supporter/professional/xyn) |
| 17:45.08 | Humbedooh | we're not all allergic to it tho ;> |
| 17:45.15 | nicoli_s | sadly alot of the complex strats are not able to be detected |
| 17:45.16 | Shirik | I know they hurt... |
| 17:45.16 | Humbedooh | but it's still baaad |
| 17:45.18 | Shirik | but most of us don't die |
| 17:45.19 | Jamash | It's a venom, everyone reacts to it. Not everyone is *allergic* to it because allergies are an immune reaction. |
| 17:45.22 | nicoli_s | we can only detect them based on units built |
| 17:45.48 | DWSR | nicoli_s: What about buildings? |
| 17:45.56 | nicoli_s | it can detect those too |
| 17:46.05 | nicoli_s | as well as spell casts |
| 17:46.14 | nicoli_s | but not on who its cast really |
| 17:46.17 | DWSR | I've noticed that I almost always get labelled as using a 4 gate robo, even though I sometimes don't build a RF. |
| 17:46.29 | nicoli_s | hmm, ill look into that |
| 17:46.51 | nicoli_s | im glad to see people using it, tis my baby :) |
| 17:46.55 | Jamash | how come the game DNA section has terrna, protoss, zerg, then terran, protoss zerg, then terran, zerg, protoss? |
| 17:47.04 | Jamash | s/terrna/terran/ |
| 17:47.18 | nicoli_s | hmm? |
| 17:47.27 | Jamash | Starport, Hive, Stargate |
| 17:47.27 | nicoli_s | oh lol not sure |
| 17:47.31 | nicoli_s | i didnt do those labels |
| 17:47.50 | nicoli_s | thats what happens when you let QA people design localization phrases |
| 17:48.02 | Jamash | lewl |
| 17:48.12 | Cide | you had them as a single localization phrase? |
| 17:48.30 | nicoli_s | yes, but it pulls from other localization phrases as well |
| 17:48.39 | nicoli_s | so we can support proper multiple languages |
| 17:48.42 | Cide | that seems like a strange design :P |
| 17:48.56 | Shirik | hey, there are places where QA is better than developers |
| 17:49.07 | nicoli_s | agreed |
| 17:49.08 | Cide | like for quality assurance for instance |
| 17:49.09 | Jamash | why is there a weird icon thing next to my name at the top of that page? |
| 17:49.19 | nicoli_s | thats yer avatar |
| 17:49.30 | nicoli_s | blame ckknight |
| 17:49.33 | Jamash | I already have a curse avatar |
| 17:49.34 | nicoli_s | he has a hardon for gravatar |
| 17:49.36 | Jamash | that is not it |
| 17:49.38 | Cide | stackoverflow ripoff imo |
| 17:49.46 | nicoli_s | what is? |
| 17:49.59 | nicoli_s | jamash:we dont share avatars between sites |
| 17:50.12 | Jamash | fail |
| 17:50.29 | Fisker | bitches nicoli_s |
| 17:50.50 | Spejnar | Anyone got the command to move the default cast bar? cant seem to find it |
| 17:51.04 | Jamash | there isn't one? |
| 17:51.15 | Jamash | unless you want a /script to re-anchor it |
| 17:51.30 | DWSR | Actually, there is. |
| 17:51.30 | Spejnar | yup, I do |
| 17:51.44 | Jamash | use /framestack to find the frame name |
| 17:51.51 | DWSR | There's a way to move any of the default ui frames. |
| 17:52.21 | DWSR | by just offsetting them from their original location rather than fully having to specify a new set of co=ordinates. |
| 17:52.29 | Jamash | there's a way to move any frame |
| 17:52.32 | Fisker | RAGE haste |
| 17:52.34 | Fisker | RAAAAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 17:52.36 | Fisker | Sorted at terminalCopenhagen/DK2010-10-19 18:08Status OK, Scanned |
| 17:52.37 | Jamash | but so what? |
| 17:52.37 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:53.15 | DWSR | Jamash: There's a way to just specify an offset as opposed to an entirely new set of co-ordinates. |
| 17:53.38 | DWSR | Jamash: Also, if you use the offset, the frames will adjust based on other UI events, such as the quest log and character frame opening at the same time. |
| 17:53.53 | Jamash | you're speaking of the global tables blizzard uses |
| 17:54.45 | DWSR | I can't remember what it was to be totally honest. |
| 17:54.52 | Jamash | are those documented anywhere? |
| 17:56.59 | DWSR | I don't know. |
| 17:57.15 | Ackis | omg next tuesday: Fable 3, Star Wars Force Unleashed 2 and the Sims 3 all come out! :( |
| 17:57.24 | Jamash | any good games? |
| 17:57.26 | DWSR | Anyone have any recommendations for in game tools to use while developing? |
| 17:57.34 | DWSR | Jamash: icwutudidthar |
| 17:57.37 | Jamash | LuaBrowser |
| 17:57.55 | Jamash | I would have recommended Hack before 4.0.1 |
| 17:58.16 | Jamash | but it's oldy moldy now |
| 17:58.44 | DWSR | ooo. new uTorrent icon. |
| 18:02.46 | Jamash | US servers coming up |
| 18:03.06 | nevcairiel | so, no hotfix patch? |
| 18:03.21 | DWSR | no |
| 18:03.25 | Fisker | haste me |
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| 18:06.10 | Computerpunk | * [[Divine Shield]] has had its duration reduced from 12 seconds to 8 seconds, which makes it impossible to [[Bubble Hearth]]. |
| 18:06.12 | Computerpunk | !!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 18:07.18 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 18:07.35 | Ackis | someone in the EU needs to get me My Horse and ME 2 for the xbox 360 :D |
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| 18:07.35 | Computerpunk | undocumented changes |
| 18:07.38 | Fisker | old Computerpunk |
| 18:07.52 | Moonwitch | well I gave up, I even reinstalled Ubuntu -- if I install the prop from the site or through the update manager -- same issue... |
| 18:07.56 | nevcairiel | Ackis: get some 13 year old girlfriend from the EU |
| 18:08.13 | Ackis | nevcairiel: will you be my girlfriend? |
| 18:08.23 | nevcairiel | i'm not 13 |
| 18:08.35 | Ackis | notice he didn't say anything about being a girl? |
| 18:08.45 | Computerpunk | does age even matter? |
| 18:09.06 | nevcairiel | i'm trying to spread rumors! |
| 18:09.10 | nevcairiel | maybe i get stuff for free |
| 18:09.12 | nevcairiel | who knows |
| 18:09.16 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:09.17 | Shirik | age does matter |
| 18:09.28 | Jamash | looks like it's UIPanelWindows[] |
| 18:09.29 | Shirik | ~irc |
| 18:09.29 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 18:10.25 | Moonwitch | age is the difference between a good time and jail time |
| 18:11.17 | Moonwitch | and back to reboot time |
| 18:11.32 | Shirik | http://imagebin.ca/view/xIufGC.html |
| 18:11.56 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:12.02 | Fisker | vil du se mine smukke navle? |
| 18:12.10 | Shirik | no |
| 18:12.18 | Fisker | nå ok |
| 18:12.33 | Shirik | hey |
| 18:12.37 | Shirik | nå sounds like no |
| 18:12.56 | Cairenn|afk | Wobin: awwww, dreaming puppie! |
| 18:12.57 | Jamash | development_ass? |
| 18:13.01 | Shirik | Jamash: :) |
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| 18:13.18 | Fisker | it doesn't Shirik :( |
| 18:13.23 | Shirik | yes it does :( |
| 18:13.34 | Shirik | å is a po which sounds like o |
| 18:13.45 | Shirik | right Cide? |
| 18:14.01 | Cide | yes |
| 18:14.10 | Cide | I'm totally sold by your argument and would like to subscribe to your newsless |
| 18:14.13 | Cide | newsletter |
| 18:14.19 | Shirik | :P |
| 18:14.35 | nevcairiel | a newsless newsletter? |
| 18:15.26 | Shirik | every issue is about how C++ is so much better than everything else |
| 18:15.53 | nevcairiel | but its not |
| 18:16.11 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:16.12 | Fisker | Sorted at terminalCopenhagen/DK2010-10-19 18:08Status OK, Scanned |
| 18:16.14 | Shirik | Now now I will be the first to say use the right tool for the right job |
| 18:16.21 | Shirik | but I can still sound like a C++ zealot if I want to |
| 18:17.09 | amro | My life for RAIIur |
| 18:17.34 | industrial | aiur |
| 18:17.34 | industrial | :D |
| 18:17.35 | amro | come on shirik, that was worth some points :( |
| 18:17.44 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:17.49 | Shirik | sorry I was looking at another channel |
| 18:17.52 | Shirik | ~amro++ |
| 18:18.10 | zenzelezz | <Shirik> but I can still sound like a C++ zealot if I want to <--- this statement seems to say you sometimes *don't* seem like a C++ zealot |
| 18:18.26 | Shirik | I'm not really that die-hard C++ |
| 18:18.30 | Shirik | don't get me wrong I like it a lot |
| 18:18.37 | Shirik | but I broke down and used, say, Java on Minion didn't I? |
| 18:18.49 | zenzelezz | we assumed you just couldn't handle Qt |
| 18:18.53 | amro | that's only because you fail at Qt |
| 18:18.54 | amro | yeah. |
| 18:18.57 | zenzelezz | hah! |
| 18:18.58 | Shirik | Nah |
| 18:19.08 | Shirik | OSGi was the driving factor there actually |
| 18:20.09 | amro | wtf is that |
| 18:20.12 | Cide | and you used python also |
| 18:20.14 | amro | Open group of technology companies including Ericsson, IBM, Sun Microsystems, Nokia, Intel, BMW, and Philips |
| 18:20.17 | Cide | much love for python |
| 18:20.23 | amro | it took all of those companies to get you off C++ |
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| 18:22.14 | DWSR | amro: Sony Ericsson, open group? |
| 18:22.17 | DWSR | rofl. |
| 18:22.22 | DWSR | That's a cruel cruel irony. |
| 18:22.36 | amro | I'm more interested in why BMW is in there |
| 18:22.49 | Fisker | DWSR not as much as Microsoft being part of the PC Gaming Alliance |
| 18:22.54 | amro | ^ |
| 18:23.14 | DWSR | Fisker: Not really, considering that their platform is the current desktop majority. |
| 18:23.20 | DWSR | SE, OTOH, does nothing open. |
| 18:23.25 | DWSR | Everything is proprietary. |
| 18:23.27 | Fisker | sure they do |
| 18:23.56 | Fisker | and microsoft does not want pc gaming anyway |
| 18:24.01 | amro | yeah |
| 18:24.16 | amro | GFWL is an attempt to market XBL |
| 18:24.16 | nevcairiel | SE is part of the open handset alliance as well, obviously. |
| 18:24.28 | DWSR | nevcairiel: That's a serious fucking joke. |
| 18:24.57 | amro | serious joke? |
| 18:25.00 | amro | oxymoron much? |
| 18:25.00 | nevcairiel | They are using Android, which is basically what the open handset alliance is all about :P |
| 18:25.46 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Except they put in a proprietary skin on top and locked down their bootloader so I can't put custom ROMs on it. |
| 18:25.50 | DWSR | Or remove any of their built in shit. |
| 18:25.51 | DWSR | Any of it. |
| 18:26.03 | DWSR | Even with root, I can't remove their custom software and it freaking eats battery for a snack. |
| 18:26.04 | nevcairiel | everyone is adding boot loader protections now |
| 18:26.10 | amro | ok fine |
| 18:26.13 | amro | they're assholes |
| 18:26.15 | amro | next topic |
| 18:26.25 | Computerpunk | o_O |
| 18:26.36 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Which isn't very open. |
| 18:26.41 | DWSR | It's very closed off. |
| 18:26.57 | DWSR | Hence, SE being in the OHSA is lulz. |
| 18:26.59 | Fisker | they still have to include the source code |
| 18:27.08 | nevcairiel | its a open source OS |
| 18:27.21 | nevcairiel | they locking the phone so you can't use it for whatever is normal for consumer devices |
| 18:27.33 | Fisker | and you can root your x10 as well |
| 18:27.42 | DWSR | Fisker: Rooting it doesn't do much. I rooted mine. |
| 18:27.55 | Fisker | i see custom roms so it was apparently enough |
| 18:28.04 | DWSR | Fisker: Where, exactly? |
| 18:28.12 | DWSR | Because custom ROMs require bootloader access. |
| 18:28.16 | Computerpunk | C#. |
| 18:28.17 | Computerpunk | Ty. |
| 18:28.17 | ckknight | Shirik: how is Minion these days? |
| 18:28.21 | Computerpunk | <Shirik> but I broke down and used, say, Java on Minion didn't I? |
| 18:28.22 | ckknight | Computerpunk: <3 |
| 18:28.27 | Computerpunk | ckknight, <3 |
| 18:28.28 | Computerpunk | Sup brah? |
| 18:28.32 | ckknight | very well then |
| 18:28.35 | Shirik | ckknight: It works, but I'm still rewriting the addon lookup strategy |
| 18:28.45 | Computerpunk | ckknight, I am maintaining UH. |
| 18:28.46 | Fisker | oh yeah they're not quite done yet |
| 18:28.47 | Computerpunk | inb4 forking. |
| 18:28.53 | ckknight | Computerpunk: UH? |
| 18:29.19 | Computerpunk | UnderHood. |
| 18:29.34 | ckknight | okay |
| 18:29.42 | ckknight | ...grats? |
| 18:29.44 | Ackis | should I take the first week of cata off work? |
| 18:29.54 | nicoli_s | no |
| 18:29.58 | nevcairiel | i did |
| 18:30.03 | Fisker | anyway DWSR |
| 18:30.04 | Ackis | I'll end up playing xbox lol |
| 18:30.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:30.12 | nevcairiel | still a fun week |
| 18:30.12 | Fisker | don't expect them to upgrade you to 2.2 or 2.1 hoho |
| 18:30.13 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 18:30.16 | Shirik | play my mage deck instead |
| 18:30.21 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:30.28 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 18:30.30 | Fisker | that's basically the biggest issue with SE for me |
| 18:30.35 | DWSR | Fisker: They're giving us a 2.1 upgrade. |
| 18:30.41 | Fisker | Release a phone -> do minimal patching -> fuck over and buy our X11 |
| 18:30.46 | Ackis | lua> 97.13 / 8.06 |
| 18:30.47 | lua_bot | Ackis: 12.050868486352 |
| 18:30.50 | Fisker | they're saying they are DWSR |
| 18:30.57 | Ackis | I have just over 12 days of vacation banked up |
| 18:31.03 | Jamash | Is X11 one better than X10? |
| 18:31.05 | DWSR | Fisker: Internal build got leaked. It exists. |
| 18:31.09 | Fisker | I've been all SE until my Nexus One |
| 18:31.16 | Fisker | doesn't mean it gets released DWSR |
| 18:31.19 | DWSR | If I could even fucking /get/ an N1 |
| 18:31.24 | Fisker | the X1 was supposed to get an update |
| 18:31.25 | Fisker | it leaked |
| 18:31.26 | Fisker | never came out |
| 18:31.40 | Fisker | it's pretty much been the story for every device prior to that as well |
| 18:31.56 | Jamash | I'm going to hold off on smartphones as long as is humanly possible |
| 18:32.09 | Fisker | Make Phone -> Promise substantial software upgrade -> Release new phone with substantial software upgrade |
| 18:32.22 | Jamash | that's why |
| 18:32.47 | Jamash | why should I blow $500 on a device that's obsolete before I get the box open |
| 18:34.07 | DWSR | Jamash: Most companies are much better than SE. |
| 18:34.14 | DWSR | Also, you could just get an N1. |
| 18:34.27 | Jamash | Or, I could not buy any smartphone and save $500 |
| 18:34.39 | Fisker | might as well wait for whatever is around the corner |
| 18:37.19 | Jamash | honestly I want a phone with fewer features |
| 18:37.29 | DWSR | That's what I kept thinking. |
| 18:37.34 | DWSR | But honestly, having all the extra features is nice. |
| 18:37.42 | Jamash | until you suffered blunt head trauma? |
| 18:38.22 | Jamash | brb going to the brain doctor |
| 18:38.29 | Jamash | oddly enough that is not a joke |
| 18:38.37 | mikma | industrial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaBzi4T6h78 |
| 18:39.20 | Jamash|braindoct | need a new prescription for my antidepressants |
| 18:41.54 | DWSR | I need anti-depressants. |
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| 18:42.06 | DWSR | My doctor's a dumbass and won't prescribe them though |
| 18:42.14 | DWSR | "You sound like you have the symptoms of depression" |
| 18:44.06 | Humbedooh | "sound like"? o.O |
| 18:44.27 | mikma | haste: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1ePbqwi_YuM/S017S69dIcI/AAAAAAAAE64/oc5k7JC9gQQ/s400/omnomnom.jpg |
| 18:44.39 | Humbedooh | either he does a depression scale test on you or he shuts his yapper |
| 18:45.12 | Fisker | mikmb |
| 18:45.50 | Napoleone | mikma lol |
| 18:48.43 | MentalPower | ~lart Esamynn|Away |
| 18:48.43 | purl | whips out a sword and chops Esamynn|Away in half |
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| 18:49.59 | industrial | mikma: nice |
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| 18:54.33 | amro | Cide |
| 18:54.35 | amro | be proud of me |
| 18:54.44 | amro | I just transitioned from losing my whole fucking base into winning |
| 18:55.12 | Cide | gj |
| 18:55.26 | amro | I had 12 corruptors and he killed my hive+greater spire |
| 18:55.29 | amro | so annoying |
| 18:55.44 | amro | but I reteched and raped his face with 12 brood lords a billion hydrsa |
| 18:56.07 | Ackis | I wonder if I can get a PC emulator for WP7 and play games with it |
| 18:56.59 | amro | or you can get a phone with games |
| 18:57.48 | Ackis | I'm planning on cancelling my cell phone contract when it's up |
| 18:58.31 | DWSR | Ackis: For what platform phone? |
| 18:58.52 | Ackis | I have a blackberry, fiancee has a razr and we're on a family bundle |
| 18:59.24 | Ackis | I want a Windows 7 Phone |
| 18:59.35 | Ackis | but don't want to have to deal with the shitty cell phone companies |
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| 19:00.56 | alestane | Yay, I have my old demons back. |
| 19:04.15 | nicoli_s | man i love being a reverse engineer :) |
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| 19:04.21 | Lunessa | station |
| 19:04.50 | DWSR | station |
| 19:06.01 | Lunessa | I'm going to hell for bastardizing the lyrics to Sound of Silence to do a bug report about an invisible wall. |
| 19:06.18 | Lunessa | Well, not /just/ for that, but still. |
| 19:06.51 | alestane | You know what they say, Lunessa...Heaven for the weather... |
| 19:07.17 | Ackis | reverse engineers a nicoli_s |
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| 19:07.24 | Lunessa | I'm sure I'll be in good company. I managed to pick out a nice condo overlooking the Lake of Fire. And you can get a heck of a pizza in hell. |
| 19:07.39 | alestane | ...but Hell for the company. |
| 19:07.43 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1352386867 |
| 19:08.38 | alestane | One of my friends, when advised, "Don't go there," would respond, "Oh, I live There. In fact, I was recently elected mayor!" |
| 19:09.00 | TC-Work | anyone know how i can get http://www.monmodegethooked.com/index.html centered Horizontally & Vertically? |
| 19:09.15 | TC-Work | garbage code is garbage |
| 19:09.21 | Lunessa | I figure on opening a small bank and charging usurious interest rates. |
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| 19:10.42 | TC-Work | oh and Lunessa; |
| 19:11.00 | TC-Work | ~lart Lunessa |
| 19:11.00 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of Lunessa |
| 19:11.00 | TC-Work | for getting that song stuck in my head |
| 19:12.24 | TC-Work | though in this style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1yVSuDXk2g |
| 19:13.57 | Lunessa | TC-Work you have to add to the CSS to tell it how far down from the top you want to start rendering. |
| 19:14.15 | Lunessa | Also, that animation/audio is hideous. |
| 19:15.10 | TC-Work | Lunessa: it wont work if it is relative and it doesnt stay centered if i use absolute |
| 19:15.27 | TC-Work | dont look at me, i just picked up this garbage from someone else |
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| 19:23.23 | Lunessa | TC-Work I don't have an answer for you then. Sorry. |
| 19:23.41 | TC-Work | Lunessa: i bet Cide does, but he is holding out |
| 19:23.45 | TC-Work | Lunessa: thanks anyway |
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| 19:25.07 | Angayelle | hai again |
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| 19:34.17 | Monolit | uhm, does anyone know if there's a way to enable "Bottom Left", "Bottom Right", "Right Bar" and "Right Bar 2" in lua? Some CVar or global variable maybe? |
| 19:36.12 | alestane | There's a function, I think. |
| 19:38.21 | DWSR | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetActionBarToggles |
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| 19:38.35 | DWSR | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetActionBarToggles |
| 19:39.43 | DWSR | Those functions will allow you to toggle the bars. |
| 19:39.50 | syrae | how does one go about finding info about undocumented functions (like GetSpellDescription)? |
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| 19:40.56 | Moonwitch | ping haste amro |
| 19:40.56 | Monolit | DWSR: thats exactly what i was looking for, thank you! |
| 19:41.06 | jnwhiteh | syrae: grep the source and see how they are used. |
| 19:41.08 | amro | haste: ping |
| 19:41.11 | jnwhiteh | and experiment. |
| 19:41.28 | syrae | jnwhiteh: so use Blizz's decompile thing and take a look at that? |
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| 19:41.36 | Ackis | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/10/indian_os.html I wonder where they'll outsource their tech support lulz |
| 19:41.38 | jnwhiteh | nothing to decompile. |
| 19:41.42 | jnwhiteh | just grep the FrameXML source |
| 19:41.47 | Moonwitch | I just noticed that Fedora 13 gives me a kernel oops on my gfx card as well... I believe itŠwith the ¨new technology¨ |
| 19:41.56 | syrae | jnwhiteh: mkay |
| 19:42.18 | Moonwitch | aka on board card and dedicated card in laptop - and nvidia is supposed to make it switch seemlessly based on config |
| 19:43.06 | DWSR | Moonwitch: Yeah, I have one of those as well. |
| 19:43.16 | DWSR | Yeah, I haven't bothered with Linux because I was basically scared of what you're experiencing. |
| 19:43.18 | DWSR | kpanic. |
| 19:43.22 | syrae | This might be an even worse question, then.... let's say I was at someplace like work and i didn't have the FrameXML available at work, and I can't get onto my home machine from here, is there some place online that has a current repo of the FrameXML that I could browse through? |
| 19:43.31 | Moonwitch | DWSR: I think itÅ the dual gfx thing |
| 19:43.34 | syrae | (theoretically) |
| 19:43.40 | syrae | *cough* |
| 19:44.23 | DWSR | syrae: Not working at work is the official pasttime of this channel. |
| 19:44.35 | syrae | DWSR: heh |
| 19:44.39 | Moonwitch | DWSR: they dubbed the optimus equivalent in linux Prime :P |
| 19:44.48 | DWSR | lol |
| 19:45.44 | DWSR | wowcompares broken for anyone else? |
| 19:45.49 | DWSR | http://wowcompares.com/33010958 |
| 19:45.55 | DWSR | btw syrae ^ |
| 19:46.08 | TMc51 | DWSR: yup, broked |
| 19:46.13 | DWSR | wowcompares.com has links to all of the FrameXML versions from WoW, starting in like.....1.12 or something |
| 19:46.24 | jnwhiteh | ~framexml |
| 19:46.24 | purl | Download FrameXML code/art from http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source , http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser or http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml |
| 19:46.28 | DWSR | Anyway, that link is for the latest version. |
| 19:46.28 | syrae | DWSR: thanks |
| 19:46.30 | jnwhiteh | there's a few places you can view them |
| 19:46.31 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 19:46.35 | Moonwitch | http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=163683 yeah my issue right there :P Haste, amro, other that tried to help, thank you for your assistance :) |
| 19:46.36 | DWSR | what jnwhiteh as well. |
| 19:46.52 | syrae | thanks everyone. |
| 19:47.09 | syrae | I'm just starting to get started on dev, and... there's a lot to catch up on. |
| 19:47.28 | DWSR | lol @ gaming on Linux. |
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| 19:47.42 | DWSR | ~wowprogramming |
| 19:47.42 | purl | it has been said that wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 19:47.50 | DWSR | ^ learn to love it. |
| 19:49.33 | syrae | I have it |
| 19:50.50 | Moonwitch | DWSR: I actually can run games smoothly in Wine on my desktop :) I just wanted the same smooth sailing on my laptop, but alas. |
| 19:51.00 | DWSR | Moonwitch: Which ones? |
| 19:51.22 | Torhal | DWSR: Oblivion, Team Fortress 2, World of Warcraft, StarCraft II... |
| 19:51.27 | DWSR | ah heh |
| 19:51.35 | Ackis | Torhal: tits |
| 19:51.40 | Moonwitch | what Torhal said :P |
| 19:51.42 | Torhal | Ackis: Pen-fifteen, biotch |
| 19:51.56 | Moonwitch | I also had good luck with DoD and DoD Source (which means CS should be fine too) |
| 19:52.24 | Moonwitch | though with Battlefield2 and Battlefield bad company 2 I had no such luck |
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| 19:54.05 | Cide | hi |
| 19:55.34 | Moonwitch | hi Cide |
| 19:57.26 | mikma | haste: fucking priceless, nsfw, http://kuvaton.com/browse/15964/shit_jump.gif |
| 19:58.10 | Cide | intentional or not? |
| 19:58.25 | mikma | i guess intentional |
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| 19:59.24 | Cide | nice host |
| 19:59.32 | Cide | Random [~Denial@c-24-22-237-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #wowuidev |
| 19:59.34 | Cide | hacked. |
| 20:00.42 | mikma | i dont even see the point of hiding the domains |
| 20:00.53 | mikma | like people would give a rats ass anyway |
| 20:01.09 | Cide | easier to hack |
| 20:01.12 | Cide | as Random witnessed |
| 20:01.53 | mikma | hack? =/ |
| 20:01.58 | Cide | you know |
| 20:02.01 | Cide | hack into pieces |
| 20:02.05 | mikma | oh |
| 20:02.09 | mikma | axe it |
| 20:02.12 | Cide | yess |
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| 20:03.11 | syrae | damnit. Ok, what if there's a new function and grepping for it from the FrameXML files comes up with no hits? Do I just load up WoW and try to call it and see what happens? GetSpellDescription isn't used at all in Blizz's stuff. |
| 20:03.15 | mikma | ^^ xyphoid be careful or cide will axe your domain |
| 20:03.51 | mikma | syrae: well, so? =) |
| 20:04.01 | mikma | grep through Addons too |
| 20:05.29 | syrae | Well yeah. So, GetSpellDescription() is new in 4.0.1, and my friend rewrote his addon to use it instead of tooltip parsing. I'm just trying to figure out how he figured out to use this random, new, undocumented function instead of keeping the tooltip parsing |
| 20:05.32 | amro | ill grep your addons mikma |
| 20:06.04 | mikma | syrae: /dump GetSpellDescription("Attack") |
| 20:06.13 | syrae | especially since his addon will break badly in 4.0.3 |
| 20:06.37 | cbreak | many functions are fro C Space |
| 20:06.45 | Jamash|braindoct | C SPAAAAACE |
| 20:06.52 | amro | did your friend disappear? |
| 20:07.04 | syrae | my friend got abducted by Life |
| 20:07.04 | cbreak | they do that all the time. |
| 20:07.11 | amro | life |
| 20:07.13 | amro | that bitch |
| 20:07.14 | Jamash | ~api GetSpellDescription |
| 20:07.14 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSpellDescription |
| 20:07.27 | Ackis | https://s-hphotos-ash2.fbcdn.net/hs004.ash2/33572_446191206685_512851685_5504888_2034166_n.jpg |
| 20:07.27 | amro | !api GetSpellDescription |
| 20:07.28 | lua_bot | GetSpellDescription: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellDescription) |
| 20:07.33 | syrae | right |
| 20:07.36 | Ackis | does anyone here think that cat is dead? |
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| 20:08.34 | Jamash | Ackis: isthiscatdeadornot.com? |
| 20:08.38 | syrae | ok, so I didn't know about /dump |
| 20:08.40 | syrae | thanks |
| 20:08.59 | Ackis | lol |
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| 20:09.48 | Jamash | imo blizzard should just sell the goodie bag as a separate thing |
| 20:09.56 | syrae | I apologize for all my dumb questions |
| 20:10.28 | mikma | its ok, dont worry about that |
| 20:10.34 | mikma | worry about fisker |
| 20:10.38 | Jamash | that's ok if dumb questions were banned this channel would be empty |
| 20:10.52 | mikma | jamash: why? |
| 20:10.59 | Jamash | see? |
| 20:11.05 | mikma | has been kicked out of the channel (banned!) |
| 20:11.12 | Jamash | snap |
| 20:11.18 | syrae | heh |
| 20:11.40 | mikma | you deserve a ban too, jamash |
| 20:11.50 | mikma | that was a stupid question after question |
| 20:12.18 | mikma | oh |
| 20:12.20 | Jamash | [Hammer of Banning] crits you for over nine thousand damage. |
| 20:12.33 | mikma | i know a stupid question that can make the whole channel be disbanded |
| 20:13.00 | Jamash | It means "Heart of Draenor" in orcish. |
| 20:13.51 | mikma | here we go, get ready to massleave the channel: |
| 20:14.01 | mikma | `-fisker_q\: you there? |
| 20:14.18 | Lunessa | The Heart of Dreaenor is actually an Eredar Hooker named Twikki who only narrowly missed the transformation into a Succubus and is disappointed that trade has fallen off so much lately. |
| 20:14.26 | mikma | another horrible question would be |
| 20:14.38 | mikma | cairenn: lets have sex? |
| 20:14.46 | mikma | duck, and cover |
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| 20:15.16 | Adys | kd3 ping |
| 20:15.44 | nevcairiel | anyone happen to have a diff for the upcoming beta patch yet? :d |
| 20:17.32 | Jamash | upcoming? |
| 20:17.39 | Jamash | how would I... never mind |
| 20:17.58 | Cide | wat is dis i dont even |
| 20:18.07 | Jamash | so, cogwheel bug + hallow's end pumpking |
| 20:18.14 | Jamash | s/ing/in/ |
| 20:18.20 | Jamash | gg blizz |
| 20:18.23 | nevcairiel | its all cog|away's fault |
| 20:18.28 | nevcairiel | thats payback! |
| 20:18.33 | nevcairiel | all cogwheels are broken |
| 20:18.51 | mikma | jamash: what? |
| 20:19.20 | syrae | The death gear/cog problem seems to be on a char by char basis or something. I have some characters which are fine and others that crash |
| 20:19.22 | nevcairiel | you even crash by hovering that damn thing, not only by clicking it |
| 20:19.22 | mikma | i saw an addon hiding the tooltips in scarlet monestary |
| 20:21.35 | Adys | Jamash: cogwheel bug? |
| 20:21.50 | Jamash | hover an item (like the HH pumpkin) and the client freezes |
| 20:21.54 | Jamash | sometimes |
| 20:21.57 | Jamash | not all the time |
| 20:22.02 | Adys | ive never had that |
| 20:22.02 | syrae | yup |
| 20:22.12 | syrae | Some people get it a lot, and some people never do. |
| 20:22.17 | Jamash | it's semi-random |
| 20:22.18 | syrae | It's Special (tm) |
| 20:22.23 | Jamash | a heisenbug |
| 20:22.55 | nevcairiel | a few days ago it happend to like everyone in the group when trying to summon a food table .P |
| 20:23.02 | nevcairiel | (lfd group) |
| 20:23.19 | Adys | i did a hh lfd yesterday |
| 20:23.25 | Adys | as soon as we got in, everyone got ported out |
| 20:23.28 | Adys | did that happen to anyone? |
| 20:23.30 | syrae | I had a friend last night who had everyone in the group suffering from the Death Cog o' Doom bug in SM. |
| 20:24.04 | syrae | Adys: I've also had random instance porting you back to HS location issues. I saw it mostly in Naxx |
| 20:24.12 | nevcairiel | I did kinda wish for a hotfix patch today, but maybe they didn't fix it in time. Maybe they will do a small sneaky patch using the streamer instead, who knows! |
| 20:24.45 | syrae | nevcairiel: do you really want to be stealth patched? |
| 20:25.42 | nevcairiel | you would still notice such a patch, just that a hotfix doesn't require extensive data migration, and thus can maybe be applied in a short special downtime, instead of waiting until next week |
| 20:25.44 | breeze_ | I got a message this evening in wow saying "updating core game data" |
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| 20:26.59 | Ackis | "First of all, if one person in a relationship plays World of Warcraft and the other doesn't, the relationship is already pretty much over. Or at least it will be once Cataclysm comes out." |
| 20:27.00 | Ackis | lol |
| 20:27.27 | DWSR | http://www.myextralife.com/comic/admiral-snackbar/ |
| 20:27.28 | DWSR | Yes |
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| 20:27.52 | Ackis | First of all, if one person in a relationship plays World of Warcraft and the other doesn't, the relationship is already pretty much over. Or at least it will be once Cataclysm comes out. |
| 20:27.54 | Ackis | oops |
| 20:28.03 | Ackis | http://www.cracked.com/article_18832_5-multiplayer-video-games-that-will-destroy-your-marriage.html |
| 20:29.05 | DWSR | http://www.myextralife.com/comic/running-the-gauntlet/ |
| 20:31.14 | Maldivia | Ackis: what if one plays alliance and the other horde? |
| 20:31.51 | Ackis | doesn't happen |
| 20:31.53 | Ackis | impossible |
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| 20:33.47 | TC-Work | the funny thing is i prefer he exact opposite. solo leveling content and doing raid content with friends. |
| 20:33.53 | TC-Work | s/he/the/ |
| 20:33.59 | TC-Work | .... |
| 20:34.38 | nevcairiel | screw purl, can't even read minds |
| 20:35.07 | TC-Work | huh, wow via logmein isnt so bad |
| 20:36.24 | Nechckn | Ackis That was a cute article |
| 20:36.46 | Ackis | Nechckn: it's funny |
| 20:36.56 | Ackis | Chantelle and I hardly play games (other than WoW) together |
| 20:37.01 | Ackis | either sh'es too good, or I am |
| 20:37.18 | Nechckn | Although... the part about raiding guilds being run like top-tier college sports teams was funny - more like little league soccer for most! |
| 20:37.22 | TC-Work | Chantelle? |
| 20:37.32 | Ackis | fiancee |
| 20:37.33 | amro | your sister |
| 20:37.38 | Nechckn | Oh ho, ho... the secret is out! |
| 20:37.39 | TC-Work | i know that Ackis |
| 20:37.48 | TC-Work | i was just surpsides at the name |
| 20:37.51 | TC-Work | surprised* |
| 20:38.03 | Ackis | why surprised? |
| 20:38.08 | Nechckn | Thought it would be like Jaque or something? |
| 20:38.20 | Nechckn | =D |
| 20:38.21 | TC-Work | yes |
| 20:38.25 | Ackis | :P |
| 20:38.26 | TC-Work | exactly Nechckn |
| 20:38.31 | Nechckn | hehehe |
| 20:38.45 | TC-Work | though replace Jaque with Fisker |
| 20:38.52 | Nechckn | All good, though - it is nice if you can also sit and watch someone else play |
| 20:39.11 | Nechckn | I have been through many RPGs without ever touching the controls |
| 20:39.14 | TC-Work | thats one thing i cant to, is sit and watch someone else plat |
| 20:39.23 | Nechckn | Sort of like watching a movie only a bit better. |
| 20:39.33 | Nechckn | It depends on the game type, imnsho, TC-Work |
| 20:39.50 | Jamash | I loved watching my sister play Ultima |
| 20:39.56 | Jamash | couldn't play it myself |
| 20:40.07 | Ackis | that's how I played FFXIII... watched her play |
| 20:40.17 | Ackis | but then again, there wasn't much playing involved lol |
| 20:40.26 | Nechckn | Well, especially if the other person is good - and much better if they listen wwhen you help with LOOK out, move left!! |
| 20:40.31 | Nechckn | or whatever |
| 20:40.32 | TC-Work | Jamash: i would rather go and daydream that watch someone else play a game |
| 20:40.47 | Jamash | ultima's a great game though |
| 20:42.16 | Lunessa | TC-Work I'd rather go play something else. |
| 20:42.36 | TC-Work | Lunessa: well yes. i was asuming there was nothing else to do |
| 20:43.36 | Jamash | also we only had one PC |
| 20:43.38 | Lunessa | TC-Work Heh. |
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| 20:43.55 | Xyphoid | whut |
| 20:45.17 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm going to excercise my "on vacation" perogative and go take a nap since I'll be up at "Oh-Fuck-O'clock" later. |
| 20:45.42 | Lunessa | If I don't see you before I leave, I'll see you folks at BlizzCon. |
| 20:45.55 | TC-Work | Lunessa: indeed |
| 20:46.16 | TC-Work | i wonder who is going to be live-irc'ing it for people in here |
| 20:46.18 | Nechckn | Meanies going to BC... =( |
| 20:46.35 | Nechckn | I do hope everyone has a good time,t hough! |
| 20:46.51 | Kraps | TC-Work: i have the stream |
| 20:47.10 | syrae | TC-Work: fat chance. Cell network at the con sucks |
| 20:47.17 | Kraps | but i wont be "live-irc'ing" :p |
| 20:47.44 | TC-Work | syrae: i guess i will find out |
| 20:47.49 | Nechckn | Is the stream worth it, though? I have been going back and forth on that aspect... |
| 20:48.08 | TC-Work | i was going to do it for the pet, but meh |
| 20:48.19 | syrae | I went to the con the last 3 years. Couldn't go this year because my sis is getting married on Saturday. Heh |
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| 20:48.46 | Nechckn | I would have liked to go, but the ticket monster never saw fit to reward my waiting every time... |
| 20:48.49 | TC-Work | how come you never hung out with the cool kids syrae? |
| 20:49.02 | Nechckn | Three years of let down... |
| 20:49.07 | syrae | TC-Work: because I'm a hipster. :P |
| 20:49.14 | TC-Work | piffle |
| 20:49.21 | Kraps | TC-Work: see thats the wrong attitude, DONT get it for the pet :p |
| 20:49.23 | syrae | Which is a big fat lie |
| 20:49.23 | syrae | but sounded funny in my head |
| 20:49.46 | TC-Work | Kraps: i have no other reason to get it |
| 20:50.27 | Kraps | what |
| 20:50.37 | TC-Work | what what? |
| 20:50.43 | TC-Work | IN THE BUTT! |
| 20:50.55 | TC-Work | err..the stream |
| 20:51.05 | syrae | uh huh |
| 20:51.14 | syrae | TC-Work: we know where yer mind be |
| 20:51.28 | TC-Work | syrae: and where would that be? |
| 20:51.30 | Kraps | all the videos on the net wont be like having the stream |
| 20:51.58 | TC-Work | Kraps: i'm going to be there..... |
| 20:51.58 | Nechckn | Is there an actual schedule of all that will be in the package, yet? |
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| 20:52.10 | Nechckn | available via the stream, that is |
| 20:52.22 | Kraps | ellipses TC-Work |
| 20:54.09 | TC-Work | Kraps: but i dont get the pet |
| 20:54.27 | Nechckn | Why no pet, fella? |
| 20:54.32 | syrae | aaahhh |
| 20:54.44 | Kraps | puts on his best british accent |
| 20:54.46 | Nechckn | Or is it stream-only and live only pets this time around? |
| 20:54.53 | Kraps | OH BOOHOO |
| 20:54.54 | TC-Work | no, same pet |
| 20:55.07 | syrae | TC-Work: eBayed it? |
| 20:55.17 | TC-Work | my cousin gets the pet, only reason she is not going is because she is out of the country |
| 20:55.24 | syrae | aah |
| 20:55.29 | Nechckn | Ah, gotcha. |
| 20:55.36 | Nechckn | Nice deal for you, though! |
| 20:55.53 | Kraps | hey TC-Work |
| 20:56.05 | Kraps | dont buy a pet for $40 |
| 20:56.07 | TC-Work | yes, free ticket is free ticket |
| 20:56.09 | Kraps | please |
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| 20:56.12 | TC-Work | Kraps: i wont |
| 20:56.18 | TC-Work | if i was it would be KT |
| 20:56.22 | TC-Work | i like him |
| 20:56.53 | TC-Work | though it's not like the stream would go to waste |
| 20:58.28 | Nechckn | lol, buy the pretty unicorn and save 15 bucks! |
| 20:58.37 | TC-Work | no. never. |
| 20:59.23 | Arrowmaster | i bought the DirectTV PPV back before they had the internet stream just to get the bear mount |
| 20:59.30 | Arrowmaster | and i dont even have DirectTV |
| 20:59.44 | Nechckn | The bear was cool, though. |
| 21:00.04 | Arrowmaster | the bear is beyond cool |
| 21:00.08 | TC-Work | yes |
| 21:00.13 | TC-Work | mount > pet any day |
| 21:00.28 | TC-Work | though i wish my mini thor shot zerglings |
| 21:00.34 | Ackis | pet > mount |
| 21:00.38 | TC-Work | it would make my friend so unhappy |
| 21:00.47 | Arrowmaster | my gruntly shoots zerglings |
| 21:01.05 | TC-Work | i really really want a grunty for that reason |
| 21:01.28 | Ackis | I won't be able to watch the friday stream :( |
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| 21:02.13 | syrae | where did the mini Thor come from again? |
| 21:02.19 | Arrowmaster | sc2 |
| 21:02.21 | syrae | oh yeah |
| 21:02.21 | TC-Work | CE SC2 |
| 21:02.22 | syrae | SC2 |
| 21:02.23 | Arrowmaster | i think i have one |
| 21:02.32 | Arrowmaster | just my wow account isnt active |
| 21:03.08 | Kraps | Ackis: its on demand after |
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| 21:03.50 | Ackis | ah I didn't know that krka |
| 21:03.52 | Ackis | fuck |
| 21:03.55 | Ackis | sorry krka |
| 21:03.58 | Ackis | I meant Kraps |
| 21:04.04 | Ackis | blarghh |
| 21:04.14 | Ackis | I bet there will be streams for free as well |
| 21:04.41 | Kraps | like on jtv? |
| 21:04.59 | Ackis | possibly |
| 21:05.30 | Kraps | idk, i think they did a good job of shutting those down last year, but i wasnt looking too hard |
| 21:05.39 | Moonwitch | Ackis, you got a virt ticket too? |
| 21:06.10 | Moonwitch | I am still considering -- I dont know if it will be useful |
| 21:06.28 | Moonwitch | (also the rayv plug doesnt really function for me lol) |
| 21:07.04 | Ackis | yeah I got one |
| 21:07.12 | Nechckn | will happily watch someone's realtime stream, if they are going to let it go to waste. =) |
| 21:07.26 | Moonwitch | is there some ¨what to expect¨ list or something? |
| 21:07.27 | Torhal | Don't fuck with me, Fisker; I'm drinking Spicy hot V8. |
| 21:07.50 | Nechckn | That was what I wanted to see before paying, Moonwitch |
| 21:08.03 | Moonwitch | yeah, I just can't seem to find one :P |
| 21:08.07 | Nechckn | Since I will not be around all weekend, but would like to catch a few tidbits. |
| 21:08.23 | Nechckn | and do not want to just donate 40 bucks.. call me cheap. |
| 21:08.51 | Moonwitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.56 | Moonwitch | so I ain't calling ya cheap |
| 21:08.58 | Moonwitch | :P |
| 21:10.25 | Moonwitch | and seeing that the RayV " enhanced" stuff just doesn't work ... isn't helping me getting all convinced to donate |
| 21:11.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah that didnt work last year |
| 21:14.18 | Kraps | the stream will have everything on the schedule |
| 21:14.43 | zenzelezz | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/california-politics/2010/10/whitman-campaign-typo-underscores-the-dangers-of-tweeting.html |
| 21:15.10 | DWSR | The new MMOC layout is awesome. |
| 21:15.13 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:15.15 | Fisker | i need to pee |
| 21:15.18 | Fisker | will you help me? |
| 21:15.26 | Olison | I'm totally up for it |
| 21:15.27 | Olison | dude |
| 21:15.34 | Fisker | sweet |
| 21:15.39 | Kraps | Moonwitch: does the lite player work for you? |
| 21:16.21 | alestane | My felguard has it backward. In fact, I am too awesome to fight my own battles. |
| 21:16.30 | Moonwitch | Kraps, lite yes, the other one nope |
| 21:16.43 | Kraps | so... ;) |
| 21:16.44 | Moonwitch | zenzelezz: I so wish I hadn't seen that YT vid |
| 21:18.50 | Kraps | Moonwitch: that video is pretty pro |
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| 21:20.19 | alestane | Which raises the question, will it be cooler, or stupider, to someone who DOES speak Japanese? |
| 21:20.56 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:21.02 | Arrowmaster | its a song from an anime |
| 21:21.32 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
| 21:24.45 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck it is an 8 string bass |
| 21:27.54 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: http://ibanezrg.com/images/Ibanez-RG2228.jpg ? |
| 21:28.06 | TC-Work | i dont think they are talking fish |
| 21:28.19 | Arrowmaster | no not like that |
| 21:28.25 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_string_bass_guitar |
| 21:28.56 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/images/Schecter/Schecter%202008%20DIAMOND%20SERIES%20Stiletto%20Studio%208%20STBLS%208-String%20Electric%20Bass%20Guitar.jpg |
| 21:29.11 | Kraps | the stream is now diamonds |
| 21:29.13 | Arrowmaster | yea like that |
| 21:34.06 | Kraps | hey the stream has chat |
| 21:34.40 | Kraps | it'll be epic |
| 21:34.53 | amro | stream chat = fail |
| 21:35.14 | Kraps | thats what i meant by epic |
| 21:35.19 | Kraps | epic fail |
| 21:35.37 | Arrowmaster | can you disable it because you dont want to waste bandwidth on it? |
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| 21:35.58 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/17/funny-pictures-cheez-platter-7/ |
| 21:36.03 | Torhal | Sonofabitch |
| 21:36.24 | Torhal | I DC in the Graveyard, and can't log back in because "No instance servers are available" |
| 21:36.41 | Kraps | you "open" it, so i guess leaving it closed is fine |
| 21:37.47 | Kraps | theres a huge delay in chat, dunno if its lag or spam protection |
| 21:38.02 | amro | swo much for not opening it |
| 21:38.58 | Kraps | also twitter and facebook lololol |
| 21:39.10 | A-KO | curse login down? :( |
| 21:39.12 | A-KO | sadface |
| 21:39.26 | A-KO | ah there we go |
| 21:39.29 | A-KO | just slow for some reason... |
| 21:39.34 | TC-Work | that was redundant A-KO |
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| 21:41.38 | Kraps | did someone say the mmoc has a new layout? |
| 21:42.19 | TC-Work | i didnt think so as of this morning |
| 21:42.33 | Kraps | hmm? |
| 21:43.14 | TC-Work | eg. it was the same as of this morning |
| 21:43.33 | Fisker | haste |
| 21:43.38 | Fisker | isn't it obvious that i hate you? |
| 21:43.41 | Kraps | looks the same now |
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| 21:43.55 | Ackis | Diarrhea is trending on twitter :( |
| 21:44.24 | TC-Work | Ackis: i'm fairly sure thats how it started |
| 21:45.59 | alestane | What's this deal with DCing when you zone in for Headless Horseman? |
| 21:47.06 | Kraps | mousing over the pumpkin? |
| 21:47.47 | alestane | That might be it. |
| 21:48.22 | alestane | Because I don't DC until I start looking around. |
| 21:49.42 | Kraps | its a known issue or whatnot |
| 21:50.00 | alestane | So what, you just don't look at the pumpkin? |
| 21:51.08 | Hjalte | Yep. |
| 21:51.13 | Hjalte | Or you turn off tooltips. |
| 21:51.46 | Hjalte | There's an app-on for that btw. |
| 21:54.09 | Ackis | Kraps: http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/?styleid=8 |
| 21:56.33 | TC-Work | interesting |
| 21:59.39 | Kraps | sweeeet |
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| 22:00.02 | Ackis | you're welcome |
| 22:00.03 | Ackis | :P |
| 22:00.28 | TC-Work | though it does lose that annoying and sometimes handy list of links on the left |
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| 22:02.15 | Kraps | thats fine |
| 22:02.40 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5667564/guest-editorial-a-first-amendment-call-to-arms |
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| 22:03.10 | batrick | krka: my sandbox is open sourced. The problem is people have widely varying requirements making custom sandboxes often necessary |
| 22:03.34 | batrick | e.g. mine was designed so most of the debug library could be exposed whereas jnwhiteh did not |
| 22:03.43 | batrick | his is much simpler than mine (which is a good thing) |
| 22:04.02 | batrick | mine requires a super complex C library binding |
| 22:04.09 | batrick | and only works on unix |
| 22:04.25 | jnwhiteh | I've also made my available |
| 22:04.31 | jnwhiteh | just not widely =) |
| 22:05.54 | jnwhiteh | not that I'm paying attention tot he conversation |
| 22:10.18 | syrae | there's working sandboxes for dev? |
| 22:10.27 | jnwhiteh | no? |
| 22:10.31 | jnwhiteh | that is not what we're discussing. |
| 22:10.59 | syrae | ah ha. well, that'll teach me to read the last 10 lines of backscroll after a meeting |
| 22:11.23 | syrae | actually, no... that probably won't teach me. |
| 22:11.51 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 22:12.30 | syrae | honestly, most conversations are more fun with limited or no context |
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| 22:18.23 | nicoli_s | be careful, cats like to poop in sandboxes |
| 22:18.32 | TC-Work | so do drunk coeds |
| 22:19.19 | Sixen | lol |
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| 22:27.05 | kd3 | ok, the hell? |
| 22:27.14 | kd3 | blizz just re-sent my blizzcon barcode |
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| 22:34.34 | Seerah | kd3: yeah, I got them again today, too |
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| 22:37.41 | foxlit | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27300878138/blizzcon-2010-registration-bar-codes/ |
| 22:39.41 | breeze_ | How can I make child frames resize with their parent frame? |
| 22:42.37 | TC-Work | candy |
| 22:42.47 | amro | mm |
| 22:42.49 | amro | candy |
| 22:43.17 | TC-Work | gives amro candy and invites him into a van |
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| 22:52.41 | Moonwitch | mmmm I cant seem to permahide the tab Combatlog .. (It's shown on the right hand side of my screen, but the tab itself persists on appearing in the tablist :() |
| 22:57.01 | DWSR | breeze_: If you parent them, the should scale with their parent frame automatically. |
| 22:57.22 | DWSR | s/the/they/ |
| 22:57.32 | DWSR | regex fail. |
| 22:57.56 | amro | okay |
| 22:57.57 | amro | guys |
| 22:58.01 | amro | don't go into TC-Work's van |
| 22:58.02 | amro | >< |
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| 22:59.23 | TC-Work | amro: you know you liked it |
| 22:59.49 | amro | that was no candy bar |
| 22:59.52 | amro | candy bars are much bigger |
| 23:00.12 | breeze_ | DWSR: scaling works fine, but the children get out of the parent's box when I resize (it's a SimpleHTML in a Frame) |
| 23:00.38 | DWSR | Does the child move when you resize the parent's box? |
| 23:00.47 | breeze_ | nope |
| 23:02.29 | TC-Work | amro: it was a tootsie roll. |
| 23:02.57 | DWSR | Did you anchor as well as parent the frame? |
| 23:03.39 | breeze_ | html = CreateFrame("SimpleHTML", nil, f); html:SetAllPoints(); html:SetWidth(f:GetWidth()); html:SetHeight(f:GetHeight()) |
| 23:05.43 | DWSR | No idea. |
| 23:05.46 | DWSR | Should Work(tm) |
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| 23:16.35 | Kraftman | any ideas how to remove these blank icons from icondesk? |
| 23:16.38 | Kraftman | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1695464/Untitled-1.jpg |
| 23:17.02 | Kraftman | wrong chat >< |
| 23:20.06 | DWSR | What chat client are you using? |
| 23:20.09 | DWSR | Both IM and IRC? |
| 23:21.31 | Kraftman | miranda IM |
| 23:23.53 | Moonwitch | Kraftman: I love your interface though :) |
| 23:24.17 | Moonwitch | might I ask what the centered bottom is -- :) |
| 23:24.42 | Moonwitch | nvm I spotted the IRC chan, I am assuming it's litestep :) |
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| 23:25.10 | Kraftman | heh |
| 23:25.11 | Kraftman | yeh |
| 23:26.25 | A-KO | hey jnwhiteh |
| 23:26.29 | A-KO | is there going to be a new book for cata soon? |
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| 23:26.51 | bluspacecow | zomg |
| 23:26.58 | bluspacecow | i fly out for BC today |
| 23:27.33 | Xyphoid | a lot of people are DCing zoning in to anything |
| 23:28.42 | bluspacecow | would it be related to the tooltip code being slightly borked ? |
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| 23:32.22 | syrae | slightly? |
| 23:33.07 | syrae | also, Con attendees from outside the area, don't forget to stop by In-n-Out for a burger. Nom nom nom |
| 23:33.21 | A-KO | Five Guys > In & Out |
| 23:33.40 | syrae | I don't have that around here |
| 23:33.57 | A-KO | I wish I was going to blizzcon this year, sort of--I would have liked the late-year vacation. |
| 23:34.14 | A-KO | to something I enjoyed |
| 23:34.20 | MentalPower | syrae: that close to the 'con? |
| 23:34.29 | A-KO | is there an in and out? |
| 23:34.32 | A-KO | I remember hardee's I think |
| 23:34.35 | A-KO | or was that a wendy's |
| 23:34.38 | A-KO | somewhere not far from there |
| 23:34.39 | A-KO | on the same road |
| 23:34.44 | A-KO | further up |
| 23:34.46 | A-KO | before the highway |
| 23:35.11 | syrae | MentalPower: I grew up in SoCal. I live in Silicon Valley now. slave to the tech companies |
| 23:36.02 | syrae | A-KO: there's a Wendy's nearish the con center. I remember stopping there for dinner one night |
| 23:36.44 | A-KO | it's not far from this starbucks |
| 23:36.54 | A-KO | I really should app to blizzard :P |
| 23:37.00 | A-KO | I could prob get a job there if I wanted to |
| 23:37.03 | A-KO | it's just......ya know....... |
| 23:37.24 | A-KO | even though it'd be a pretty awesome project to work on, it is yet a job :P and there are problems with it like every other job....and it'd be a 2800 mile move for me |
| 23:37.28 | A-KO | ha |
| 23:39.43 | syrae | yeah. And you'd have to work for Activision |
| 23:40.01 | A-KO | LOL |
| 23:40.02 | A-KO | true that |
| 23:41.24 | ZorbaTHut | argh why is wow's small font rendering so bad :( |
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| 23:43.15 | A-KO | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cubicle%20Coma&defid=5169562 < so true |
| 23:44.19 | Jerub | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_RQjQvxtmK8A/TLYv7qkUodI/AAAAAAAADVg/gbx_qcAB5nE/s1600/Alt+Med+Flowchart.png |
| 23:50.05 | Kraps | Fisker: fallout new vegas? |
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| 23:51.41 | ZorbaTHut | 4.0: awesome. |
| 23:51.43 | ZorbaTHut | that's my conclusion. |
| 23:52.00 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: yes. |
| 23:52.05 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: a thousand times, yes. |
| 23:52.09 | ZorbaTHut | if you listed all conclusions, and ranked them in the order of possibility, that would be the only thing on the list. |
| 23:52.18 | ZorbaTHut | I don't even know what other specs are like, but prot warrior is just solid :3 right now |
| 23:52.18 | Jerub | my only annoyance is the buff monitor on the built in raid frames. |
| 23:52.34 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: prot warrior had the fewest changes. |
| 23:52.36 | ZorbaTHut | what is this "built in" you speak of |
| 23:52.41 | ZorbaTHut | I do not believe I've seen it |
| 23:52.46 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: but rend+thunderclap is nice. |
| 23:52.48 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, maybe so, but those changes were fucking huge |
| 23:52.48 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: you haven't seen it? |
| 23:52.57 | ZorbaTHut | just the rage behavior is enormous |
| 23:53.07 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: you know 'ready check' |
| 23:53.07 | ZorbaTHut | rend is fantastic and the new shout mechanic is fantastic |
| 23:53.11 | Jerub | there's a new button. 'role check' |
| 23:53.22 | ZorbaTHut | hah, I haven't actually been in a raid yet |
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| 23:53.49 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: you know the little shield/heal/dps markers for LFD groups? you can get those for raids now |
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| 23:53.58 | ZorbaTHut | that's kinda clever |
| 23:54.02 | Jerub | and the built in raid frames have options like "sort by role" |
| 23:54.17 | Jerub | unfortunately, there's a few damaging bugs. |
| 23:54.25 | Jerub | as a druid healer you can get the raid frames to show your hots |
| 23:54.29 | Jerub | but they show /every/ druids hots. |
| 23:55.31 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, honestly, I sorta find the base UI irrelevant now :P |
| 23:55.53 | Jerub | addons caused my wow to consume all system memory when entering icc |
| 23:55.58 | Jerub | so i tanked 11/12 without addons |
| 23:56.27 | ZorbaTHut | luckily I have more RAM than WoW is capable of using, so I don't need to worry about that :D |
| 23:56.46 | Jerub | well, seeing it skyrocket in system monitor led me to conclude an addon had gone insane and needed to be shot in the head |
| 23:56.49 | Jerub | i still don't know which one |
| 23:56.57 | Kraftman | ZorbaTHut: how much ram do you have? |
| 23:57.04 | Yssaril | ZorbaTHut: Wow can still crash and burn if it starts approching the 2gb limit |
| 23:57.09 | ZorbaTHut | kraft, 8gb |
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| 23:57.19 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, didn't the addon memory monitor tell you? |
| 23:57.53 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: fps went to zero |
| 23:57.56 | Jerub | couldn't get it up |
| 23:57.59 | ZorbaTHut | ouch |
| 23:58.09 | Yssaril | also if your addons used up so much ram that it cause wow to go to its limits you need to rethink what addons you are using |
| 23:58.11 | ZorbaTHut | makes it easy to troubleshoot though, just binary search |
| 23:58.29 | Yssaril | Jerub: fps to zero sounds isnt a memory issue |
| 23:58.39 | ZorbaTHut | and yeah, that sounds like infinite loop to me |
| 23:58.42 | ZorbaTHut | with a memory allocation in it |
| 23:58.48 | Jerub | Yssaril: looking at resource monitor showed the ram used skyrocketing and fps was to zero. |
| 23:59.00 | ZorbaTHut | definitely infinite loop with allocation |
| 23:59.02 | Jerub | addons turned off fixed it. |
| 23:59.13 | Yssaril | yea infinit loop |
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| 23:59.24 | Jerub | anyway, all better now |
| 23:59.42 | Yssaril | Jerub: memory usage alone will never effect your frame rate its the thing that is generating the memory |
| 23:59.45 | Jerub | i think tidy plates is going well (been using it on other toons) so that'll get turned back on |
| 23:59.51 | Jerub | don't know if I'll turn anything else on :P |
