| 00:00.11 | Torhal | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/member.php?u=109032 |
| 00:00.19 | Torhal | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8512-AckisRecipeList.html |
| 00:00.25 | Torhal | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15154-Collectinator.html |
| 00:01.05 | Napoleone | os thtat ALL it needed? |
| 00:01.16 | kd3 | yep |
| 00:01.30 | Napoleone | SetCVar( "bloattest", 1) |
| 00:01.36 | Thunder_Child | has anyone tried 4story? |
| 00:02.30 | Thunder_Child | aka Gates of Andaron |
| 00:02.56 | cairenn | both done, anything else? |
| 00:03.06 | Torhal | cairenn: Nope! Danke :) |
| 00:03.08 | cairenn | also, you may want to go add him back on as a team member |
| 00:03.10 | cairenn | welcome |
| 00:03.15 | Torhal | Ah, will do |
| 00:03.15 | Shefki | Zhinjio: pong |
| 00:03.38 | cairenn | sorry for seeming so abrupt, just walked in the door, not really settled in, and about to be on a conference call, so ... |
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| 00:06.37 | Thunder_Child | ~relax cairenn |
| 00:06.37 | purl | ACTION sits cairenn down for a nice long foot massage, feeds cairenn an excellent, gourmet dinner and then tucks cairenn in for a nap |
| 00:07.12 | Torhal | cairenn: You're fine :) |
| 00:07.21 | cairenn | :) |
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| 00:14.15 | Gnarfoz | whut... bloattest |
| 00:14.17 | Gnarfoz | what the hell |
| 00:14.19 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 00:14.31 | Napoleone | no idea.. but it works lol |
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| 00:23.17 | Tuller | SSD prices have taken a significant price drop this week, it seems |
| 00:23.42 | Thunder_Child | there are 2TB HDD for 99 as well |
| 00:25.54 | Dagmar | Tuller: from where? |
| 00:26.10 | Tuller | well 128 gig drives, at least on newegg |
| 00:26.34 | Tuller | or maybe its 120 |
| 00:26.45 | Tuller | an agility 2 for $229 for example |
| 00:27.33 | Dagmar | Looks like they're having a sale, but no significant price drops |
| 00:28.21 | Tuller | well, they're significantish since the summer |
| 00:28.32 | Dagmar | I guess they got tired of Pricewatch showing a lot of people selling them for cheaper |
| 00:29.08 | Tuller | but they're not the big drop expected with the next set of intel SSDs |
| 00:30.19 | Jerub | okay, gave my mage a run in last night. it was alright i guess |
| 00:30.25 | Jerub | mana much more fragile. |
| 00:30.36 | Jerub | did a round on my warrior, very very similar to previous |
| 00:30.52 | Dagmar | ASUS has failed me for the last time |
| 00:31.22 | Dagmar | I'm going to take this netbook that's been to their RMA department three times now (almost continuously) and show it to everyone at PhreakNIC |
| 00:32.00 | kd3 | ooh |
| 00:32.04 | kd3 | a ritual burning? |
| 00:32.28 | Jerub | cheap laptop breaks. news at 11. |
| 00:32.30 | Dagmar | That's an interesting point you make |
| 00:32.41 | Dagmar | Jerub: Not "breaks". "Never fucking worked right" |
| 00:33.08 | Dagmar | kd3: Considering that we've had jet engines and giant tesla coils at the 'con, there might well BE a ritual burning |
| 00:33.10 | Jerub | cheap laptop never fucking worked right, news at 11. |
| 00:33.35 | Dagmar | Jerub: Let's see how casual you are about it after you've spent six months shipping the goddamn thing back and forth |
| 00:33.40 | kd3 | woo |
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| 00:40.43 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: netbook != cheap |
| 00:43.02 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: really? um. i think they are :/ |
| 00:43.30 | Dagmar | Inexpensive != cheap. |
| 00:43.34 | Dagmar | Netbooks are inexpensive. |
| 00:43.54 | Dagmar | The HP Mini 110 I've been using as a temporary fix (paid $240 for it) hasn't given me a bit of trouble. |
| 00:44.15 | Jerub | i think the asus line of netbooks are cheap. poor quality parts and design. |
| 00:44.21 | Dagmar | The eee 901 I had before I got the 1000 also... not a bit of trouble (until some asshat stole it) |
| 00:44.28 | Dagmar | I think you've not actually owned one |
| 00:44.36 | Jerub | the hp mini you refer to is inexpensive, ;) |
| 00:48.39 | Jerub | what's Dust of Disappearance vs. Vanishing Powder? |
| 00:52.53 | Xyphoid | level difference |
| 00:53.00 | Xyphoid | vanishing powder says 'for level 80 and lower' in the toolti |
| 00:53.49 | Jerub | oooh, right |
| 00:54.02 | Jerub | so get your glyphs right before hitting 81 :P |
| 00:54.46 | Jerub | how do i buy a game card online? a friend is home sick and is out of wow time |
| 00:55.13 | Thunder_Child | i think the blizz store sells them |
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| 00:56.50 | dardack | quick question, does anyone know if there is a new command for BattlefieldFrame_UpdateStatus or is it now out of bounds to call this? |
| 00:57.14 | Xyphoid | well dust of disappearance says that it's from vendors too so i'm not sure why there are two |
| 00:57.28 | Jerub | Xyphoid: becaue dust of disappearance is going to cost about 12 |
| 00:57.29 | Jerub | 12g |
| 00:59.11 | Jerub | looks at the blizzard store |
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| 01:04.39 | Jerub | so is guild rep live yet? |
| 01:04.44 | Jerub | like, can you earn it? |
| 01:04.51 | foxlit | no |
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| 01:05.39 | Jerub | ty |
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| 01:22.52 | router54_ | hey |
| 01:23.16 | TMc51 | yo |
| 01:24.02 | ckknight | heyo |
| 01:24.16 | router54_ | i'm looking for something uncommon. i need a lua parser written in Lua that'll run in WoW. i need to parse out script (i can safely assume they're syntactically correct and pass a loadstring()) and capture all global lookups. |
| 01:24.30 | router54_ | anyone know of anything that might help? |
| 01:25.00 | router54_ | i don't need something heavy, i'm just interested in globals. i don't want to write it myself, because i need something that'll work reliably. |
| 01:26.56 | TMc51 | Something like WowLua? |
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| 01:27.24 | router54_ | No. I'm taking scripts from users, and I need to parse out any global their script tries to access. |
| 01:27.57 | router54_ | Something that'll just give me a list of globals the script looks at would be ideal. |
| 01:28.23 | router54_ | Or all words (locals too) would work. I can resolve them manually. |
| 01:28.52 | ckknight | so, you want to do this programmatically in an addon? |
| 01:28.57 | router54_ | yes |
| 01:29.05 | ckknight | I've done similar |
| 01:29.19 | router54_ | dogtags, but your system is much heavier than what i want to achive |
| 01:29.31 | ckknight | no, more than that |
| 01:29.38 | ckknight | DogTags is a whole new language |
| 01:29.51 | router54_ | i know |
| 01:29.58 | ckknight | now question: do you just want the list of globals or do you actually not care and would rather do something when they try to access, such as throw an error or return a value of your choosing? |
| 01:30.24 | ckknight | if it's the latter, your problem is very easy. |
| 01:30.26 | router54_ | I need a list |
| 01:30.30 | ckknight | okay, then no |
| 01:30.32 | router54_ | Let me give you background |
| 01:31.20 | router54_ | I'm doing something similar to DogTags. The scripting will be straight Lua, but I'm giving users "tags" that are just regular globals in a protected environment. I want to auto-update the script whenever the cached data at a tag changes, so I need to know which script cares about which tags. |
| 01:31.43 | ckknight | hmm |
| 01:31.53 | ckknight | have you seen how LuaTexts works in PitBull4? |
| 01:32.19 | router54_ | Doesn't it just give the users a list of events? |
| 01:32.25 | router54_ | I don't like that solution |
| 01:32.56 | ckknight | one possibility is to setfenv the function and provide a table with a __newindex and __index metatable, then whenever anything is accessed the first time, you know that global has been used |
| 01:32.58 | router54_ | I'm trying to cut out as much run-time overhead as possible, so I want to try to do as much work at script-compile time. That includes event resolution. |
| 01:33.05 | ckknight | and then you can register for the events on first access |
| 01:33.09 | ckknight | so you don't need a list up-front |
| 01:33.11 | ckknight | you can do it lazily |
| 01:33.16 | router54_ | But then the events might never hit first access |
| 01:33.27 | router54_ | complex if-then statements, and the thing never catches |
| 01:33.28 | ckknight | then they never would have been hit |
| 01:33.41 | ckknight | it doesn't matter if it hits on first access or 100th if you do it properly |
| 01:33.52 | MentalPower | can't you do it with a custom global environment, and a __newindex metamethod on that environment? |
| 01:33.55 | ckknight | on newly-accessed globals, you could register for the event for that tag |
| 01:34.02 | ckknight | that's exactly what I suggested, MentalPower |
| 01:34.11 | router54_ | +MentalPower: they won't be settings indexes |
| 01:34.22 | ckknight | it's be __index, not __newindex |
| 01:34.26 | ckknight | it'd* |
| 01:34.38 | MentalPower | ckknight: right, my bad |
| 01:34.40 | ckknight | though you'd want to catch both, imo |
| 01:34.42 | router54_ | one sev, lemme consider this |
| 01:34.58 | MentalPower | router54_: the global environment is a table with indexes |
| 01:35.22 | router54_ | yeah, i thought you meant __newindex intentionally |
| 01:35.59 | ckknight | you'd want to catch both. I'd probably catch __newindex and make it error telling the user not to change globals :P |
| 01:36.22 | router54_ | I want to give them power. I'll probably have a tiered environment so they have globals without corrupting tags. |
| 01:36.57 | ckknight | that's easy enough, then |
| 01:38.49 | router54_ | But your situation isn't ideal. Say a tag doesn't get updated all the time, and it's hidden behind an if-statement. The __index method never catches it because its if-statement failed it on the script's initial run, so now when the user expects the data to be updated it isn't/ |
| 01:39.14 | ckknight | false |
| 01:39.16 | router54_ | It would work in most cases, but fail in other |
| 01:39.28 | ckknight | work up a truth table, it works in all cases. |
| 01:39.37 | router54_ | truth table? |
| 01:39.46 | ckknight | ~wiki truth table |
| 01:40.18 | ckknight | if the if statement fails the first time because some global called leads to a false result, you know that that global was accessed, and therefore you know what events to register for. |
| 01:41.25 | router54_ | if falseTag1 then falseTag2 end |
| 01:41.30 | router54_ | falseTag2 never goes through |
| 01:41.32 | foxlit | heck, just have your tags declare what they use |
| 01:41.45 | ckknight | router54_: please read what I said. |
| 01:41.57 | ckknight | foxlit: that's not necessary |
| 01:42.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:42.26 | ckknight | true |
| 01:42.42 | router54_ | ah, you're right |
| 01:42.55 | router54_ | actually, wait |
| 01:43.24 | ckknight | for the case `if false then DoSomething() end`, you don't care about DoSomething, ever. Its value will never matter and events that change it are irrelevant, always. If the condition changes, then it will be called and you can register for the events at that point in time. |
| 01:44.00 | router54_ | Say you have this: |
| 01:45.09 | router54_ | if careAboutHpYet then self:SetText(hp) end . . . . just because careAboutHpYet was checked, doesn't mean "hp" was, and "hp" is what holds the event in the first place, so it never gets any events assigned to begin with, thus doesn't run after the initial run. |
| 01:45.41 | ckknight | so you're not going to read what I wrote, are you? |
| 01:45.43 | ckknight | alright, I'm done |
| 01:45.57 | ckknight | Maybe I'm just bad at explaining myself, but I felt I was pretty damn clear. |
| 01:46.12 | router54_ | maybe i'm being unclear |
| 01:46.43 | ckknight | you're not. |
| 01:46.54 | ckknight | I fully understand your situation, and it's a non-issue |
| 01:46.59 | ckknight | as I felt I properly explained |
| 01:49.05 | router54_ | "you don't care about DoSomething, ever. Its value will never matter and events that change it are irrelevant, always." that's wrong |
| 01:49.17 | router54_ | If the condition changes, you can't assume it'll be called again. It never got called once, so it still has no events registered to it: it never gets called again. |
| 01:49.30 | ckknight | how would the events change the condition? |
| 01:49.30 | router54_ | It got called once for initial run, yes |
| 01:49.34 | router54_ | But that didn't pick up the event |
| 01:49.41 | ckknight | how does the condition change? |
| 01:49.49 | router54_ | It can change at any point in time |
| 01:49.56 | router54_ | Lemme whip up a scenario here |
| 01:49.58 | ckknight | I'm asking you specifically how |
| 01:50.14 | ckknight | how would the condition change without globals being called and thus registering events for those referenced globals? |
| 01:50.38 | router54_ | lemme explain |
| 01:50.59 | ckknight | no, answer me. |
| 01:51.08 | router54_ | you have a global "hp". it holds health as a number. say you have the following script. |
| 01:51.10 | router54_ | if timeSinceStart > 3600 then self:SetText(hp) end |
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| 01:51.32 | ckknight | timeSinceStart is an accessed global. |
| 01:51.42 | ckknight | you would register an event for time based on that. |
| 01:51.48 | router54_ | it never tries to check "hp" until 1 hour after the game client is launched. It only ever got run once, when the user logged in, for initial update. That initial update failed the if-check, so hp's event wasn't caught. |
| 01:51.52 | router54_ | It never gets called again |
| 01:52.06 | foxlit | Which is fine |
| 01:52.11 | router54_ | Oh, I forgot to mention, the global environment will inherit _G |
| 01:52.13 | foxlit | How will it know that one hour has elapsed? |
| 01:52.16 | router54_ | They can call GetTime() |
| 01:52.20 | ckknight | router54_: I know, irrelevant |
| 01:52.36 | ckknight | yes, so when you see that GetTime is accessed for the first time, you know to update your tag based on time |
| 01:52.37 | foxlit | ckknight: is relevant if there's no associated event |
| 01:52.41 | router54_ | foxlit: that's the problem. it should run again any time "hp" changes. |
| 01:52.48 | ckknight | foxlit: time becomes an event itself. |
| 01:53.09 | foxlit | ckknight: including _G makes this undecidable |
| 01:53.25 | router54_ | So you're telling me to watch for any call to GetTime() and guess that the script wants to be reupdated? |
| 01:53.35 | router54_ | you're missing the point |
| 01:53.40 | ckknight | I'm not, you are. |
| 01:53.42 | ckknight | I'm done |
| 01:53.52 | MentalPower | its a variation of the halting problem |
| 01:53.55 | router54_ | The scripts will update when and only when the tag's cached data updated. |
| 01:54.06 | ckknight | if you can't gleam any insight from what I've said, then I'm sorry, I can't help you. |
| 01:54.09 | router54_ | If the tag never gets noticed, the script never runs |
| 01:54.14 | ckknight | and yes, you're quite right, MentalPower |
| 01:54.42 | MentalPower | router54_: what ckknight is saying is that since getTime is involved, the script should run OnUpdate, not just whenever hp is updated |
| 01:54.58 | MentalPower | therefore, getTime becomes the event, not the hp update |
| 01:55.09 | router54_ | No it shouldn't. It shouldn't assume it can update for anything that isn't a tag. |
| 01:55.18 | router54_ | It's specifically updating only for tags |
| 01:55.35 | router54_ | "getTime" isn't a tag itself |
| 01:56.01 | MentalPower | correct, but it influences when the script should run |
| 01:56.03 | ckknight | you're changing the problem itself. |
| 01:56.15 | router54_ | not really |
| 01:56.49 | MentalPower | ... |
| 01:57.13 | ckknight | how's life, MentalPower? |
| 01:57.31 | MentalPower | pretty good ckknight, thanks for asking |
| 01:57.37 | ckknight | coming to BlizzCon this year? |
| 01:57.39 | MentalPower | I am |
| 01:57.48 | router54_ | So, anyone know of a Lua parser written in Lua that can spit me out a list of accessed variables? |
| 01:58.26 | foxlit | Look, just don't use globals |
| 01:58.28 | MentalPower | router54_: we just gave you the only viable option, unless you want to re-implement luac in Lua |
| 01:58.38 | ckknight | MentalPower: coming to the dinner on Thursday? |
| 01:58.51 | MentalPower | I am, I look forward to seeing you dance again :) |
| 01:58.57 | ckknight | not my birthday this year |
| 01:59.01 | MentalPower | aww... |
| 01:59.03 | ckknight | but don't worry, I've been practicing. |
| 01:59.10 | ckknight | and hey, we can celebrate my birthday, I'm fine with that |
| 01:59.13 | foxlit | or invent your own magical easily-identifiable syntax that you could then transform into globals. |
| 01:59.22 | kd3 | but he's already gone |
| 01:59.37 | ckknight | he bothered me. |
| 01:59.39 | foxlit | aw. |
| 01:59.39 | ckknight | oh well |
| 01:59.45 | ckknight | don't want to dwell on it |
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| 02:01.04 | foxlit | "We were caught off guard by the 4.0 patch. ... I ran WoW and the update started saying "4.01". Needless to say I was surprised! There will be a Carbonite update." |
| 02:01.16 | MentalPower | ok... |
| 02:01.22 | ckknight | foxlit: ...how? |
| 02:01.30 | MentalPower | I haven't played in months, I still knew 4.0 was coming... |
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| 02:01.50 | foxlit | ckknight: I'm imagining a seclusive round-the-globe yacht tour? |
| 02:02.03 | ckknight | ah, yes, makes sense |
| 02:10.09 | amro | foxlit: pretty sure you can get mmoc on those now |
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| 02:25.43 | kd3 | sigh |
| 02:25.47 | kd3 | email round #2 away |
| 02:25.48 | kd3 | winces |
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| 02:36.03 | cogwheel | i love it... the correct spelling is Thiomersal but so many people spell it Thimerosal that google asks if the latter is what you meant... |
| 02:37.02 | Dagmar | A bit like honour points, man |
| 02:37.20 | Trela | I found Two Face in cat form. http://huntsville.craigslist.org/pet/1992385442.html |
| 02:39.27 | Sixen | lol Trela. |
| 02:40.00 | Trela | I was looking for a kitty... May scoop her up. :P |
| 02:40.27 | ckknight | Trela: you have to name it Two-Face |
| 02:40.33 | ckknight | anything else would be shameful |
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| 02:44.51 | Trela | ckknight: I bought a Double Down. It tried to kill me twice already. |
| 02:45.02 | ckknight | ...ha |
| 02:45.09 | bluspacecow | O_O |
| 02:45.20 | bluspacecow | i just been offered a MVP position |
| 02:45.27 | Trela | Nice. :3 |
| 02:45.28 | bluspacecow | wondering if I should take it or not |
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| 02:45.44 | bluspacecow | i mean i would love to have the position and get access to extra resources to help people |
| 02:45.54 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: You need one of these http://rlv.zazzle.com/bullseye_shirt-p235008055998697662804_400.jpg |
| 02:46.14 | bluspacecow | i'm just concerned it may limit my leniency |
| 02:46.21 | Kraps | bluspacecow: on the official forums? |
| 02:46.24 | bluspacecow | eg being able to go ahead and upload patch mirrors etc |
| 02:46.25 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 02:50.47 | Dagmar | bluspacecow: If you look good in that t-shirt you should sign up |
| 02:51.03 | Dagmar | Even if you don't you can probably fake ti |
| 02:51.08 | bluspacecow | i look awsum in that t-shirt |
| 02:51.14 | Dagmar | Then go for it. :) |
| 02:51.32 | Kraps | http://vimeo.com/15749093 |
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| 02:52.03 | kd3 | gah. lousy uplink |
| 02:52.06 | Dagmar | Oh that projector is awesomesauce |
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| 02:52.52 | Dagmar | Pure 200-proof awesomesauce |
| 02:53.18 | Kraps | fucking projectors, how do they work |
| 02:53.28 | Thunder_Child | by projecting things |
| 02:53.41 | Yssaril | Kraps: light comes out one side and hits a surface :P |
| 02:53.45 | Torhal | bluspacecow: That's interesting...a blue space cow as a green poster. |
| 02:53.48 | Arrowmaster | lcd screen and a bright light |
| 02:53.49 | Dagmar | Well, that rig they're using there in particular is at least part black magic |
| 02:54.27 | kd3 | black magic? the best kind of tech |
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| 02:54.43 | Dagmar | You should see the demo video where they tear the building down |
| 02:55.10 | Arrowmaster | the one i linked thats just an advertisement for samsung 3dtv's? |
| 02:55.55 | Yssaril | that show took that projection took 4 months to create |
| 02:56.17 | Yssaril | though imo the clock that its projected on is more even more amazing |
| 02:57.49 | kd3 | wha... a prime-time cataclysm ad during the dallas/minnesota game on sunday |
| 02:58.07 | Dagmar | There might be a few people who live in caves who don't knwo about it yet |
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| 03:06.07 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM-uyhv6Dec&feature=player_embedded |
| 03:07.02 | Torhal | Dagmar: Like, the Carbonite developer(s)? :D |
| 03:11.32 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/usa_number_1.jpg |
| 03:13.20 | Corrodias | i'm sure that's not misleading at ALL |
| 03:13.29 | Corrodias | the internet has never lied to me before :3 |
| 03:13.36 | ckknight | mikma: wow, we're really #1 in divorce? |
| 03:13.52 | ckknight | that is the only one that surprises me. |
| 03:13.57 | Corrodias | i guess we have the best divources? or is that the biggest divources? |
| 03:14.32 | ckknight | who is "we" in your sentence, Corrodias? |
| 03:14.49 | ckknight | cause you're not American with your overuse of the letter "u" |
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| 03:16.01 | Corrodias | i like U's. ouveur use is not ae criume |
| 03:16.37 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. Is Frame:GetParent broken? |
| 03:24.25 | sylvanaar | amro: fixed your bug, will be in the next release. i needed to use lookahead and check for . or : to tell if we were defining the first part of the function name |
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| 03:24.59 | amro | neat |
| 03:29.37 | sylvanaar | lets hope it doesnt break something ... =P |
| 03:30.46 | Computerpunk | what did I miss? |
| 03:31.14 | Jerub | does anyone else find it weird that pvp rewards let you buy blue gems for the same price as orange, but pve rewards blue is twice the price of orange? |
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| 03:32.51 | Torhal | Hirsute: Only if the frame was created without a parent. |
| 03:34.06 | Hirsute | Torhal: Good to know. Time to go code digging again, I suppose. |
| 03:36.35 | Hirsute | grumble grumble time to fix my local copy of baggins grumble grumble |
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| 03:51.18 | Thunder_Child | Iriel Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5664101/put-your-camera-on-canons-prototype-dock-and-watch-it-magically-charge-and-share |
| 03:52.30 | Shirik | interesting, but I have to ask "why" |
| 03:52.44 | Thunder_Child | why not? |
| 03:53.00 | Shirik | surely it's cheaper to use a wire |
| 03:53.27 | Thunder_Child | now sure. but tech gets cheap rather fast |
| 03:53.41 | Shirik | I fail to see how this could ever be as cheap as a wire |
| 03:55.52 | Thunder_Child | then you dont look ahead very well |
| 03:56.22 | Thunder_Child | at some point, there will be *no* wire |
| 03:56.58 | Iriel | Are we going to run out |
| 03:57.34 | Thunder_Child | no, it will be ~ the same price as wire w/o the hassle |
| 03:57.50 | Hirsute | Gah. |
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| 04:00.53 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5663836/the-incredible-case-of-the-spinning-bullet-on-ice |
| 04:02.33 | Hirsute | So... regarding http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141620 - I'm getting an "attempt to call method GetParent (a nil value)" error from the highlighted line. It looks to me like the button was created with a parent. Anyone see anything that jumps out as being off here? |
| 04:08.24 | Schnaks | Hirsute: self is not local to your OnClick-handler, it is pointing to something else, but not the button. |
| 04:10.38 | Hirsute | Schnaks: I see. Hrm. |
| 04:13.05 | cogwheel | OMG BURST EARDRUMS |
| 04:13.09 | cogwheel | FU launcher |
| 04:15.56 | Hirsute | I wonder if I just replace self with frame (since that is what the button was parented to anyway) if it'll work... |
| 04:16.27 | Thunder_Child | i would laugh at todays xkcd but the humor seems to fry up when you realize how true it is |
| 04:16.33 | Thunder_Child | s/fry/dry/ |
| 04:17.20 | Schnaks | Hirsute: Just replace function() with function(self) . |
| 04:18.02 | Hirsute | Schnaks: ah, thanks (so, very rusty) |
| 04:25.55 | Jerub | Shadowed: will EA come back for cata? |
| 04:26.15 | Shadowed | Why would I take down a site, then bring it back? :p |
| 04:28.24 | Jerub | i dunno. will you accept money? |
| 04:28.27 | Jerub | sexual favours? |
| 04:28.39 | Jerub | eternal love and appreciation? |
| 04:29.28 | Iriel | I'd sign up for the last one too |
| 04:31.01 | Hirsute | Well, I'm sure it's hacky, but changing function() to function(self) kicked another error (Attempt to call method CloseBag (a nil value)). Changing self:CloseBag to Baggins:CloseBag makes the button work without any errors, I guess I'll make do until it's officially updated. |
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| 04:40.14 | SqueeG | thunder_child... wireless is always more hassle |
| 04:55.01 | Hirsute | Yay, another addon scrapped back to functioning |
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| 05:11.44 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 05:12.10 | Fisker | always bet on me |
| 05:12.55 | Torhal | (being a troll) |
| 05:13.14 | Fisker | no way Torhal |
| 05:13.37 | Torhal | Yes, Fisker. You're definitely not an ogre. |
| 05:13.45 | Fisker | no way Torhal |
| 05:14.02 | Torhal | Definitely so. Just ask me, I'll tell you. |
| 05:14.06 | Fisker | no way Torhal |
| 05:14.29 | Torhal | Your grasp of vocabulary is astounding. |
| 05:14.48 | SqueeG | lol |
| 05:14.48 | Fisker | thanks Torhal |
| 05:15.12 | SqueeG | nowai torhal |
| 05:15.20 | SqueeG | just sayin |
| 05:15.28 | Torhal | Foof? |
| 05:15.34 | SqueeG | do you *sleep*? :P |
| 05:15.54 | Torhal | About to. It's 1:15am, and I have to wake up to get ready for work at 5:45am |
| 05:15.58 | Fisker | noway Torhal |
| 05:16.09 | SqueeG | jesus @_@ |
| 05:16.10 | Shirik | Fisker is a troll's troll |
| 05:16.30 | d87 | aura header template is working on live, right? |
| 05:17.16 | SqueeG | blizzard requires the use of entirely too many IPs >.O |
| 05:17.53 | Fisker | no way Shirik |
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| 05:18.08 | Fisker | i'm just very hurt Shirik |
| 05:18.47 | Shirik | aw :( |
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| 05:19.59 | Fisker | mitchnullmen |
| 05:28.16 | Wobin | cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYXKaAzEJrk&feature=player_embedded |
| 05:28.17 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:28.21 | Fisker | did you know how awesome i am? |
| 05:29.12 | cairenn | Wobin: :( |
| 05:29.16 | Fisker | baw Wobin |
| 05:31.55 | cairenn | he's good though |
| 05:33.07 | Wobin | nods |
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| 05:54.51 | Fisker | i am awesome |
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| 05:56.52 | Kraps | finished moh campaign |
| 05:59.14 | Napoleone | wmorning peeps |
| 05:59.21 | Kraps | did he die? |
| 06:00.32 | Fisker | why would you willingly play moh? |
| 06:00.33 | Napoleone | wondering blizzard implemented a way to get the guy in chats classes. even though i havent seem them before. looking over my events i'm starting to freakout. no way my client just knows all the names with classes |
| 06:01.27 | Kraps | Fisker: twas fun, not a bad story |
| 06:01.27 | Fisker | last i heard Blizzard cheats when determining the class |
| 06:02.02 | Fisker | Tier 1 Tech Support aka Freedom Force vs Opposing force was not bad? |
| 06:02.31 | Kraps | a little short |
| 06:02.38 | Fisker | duh? |
| 06:02.55 | Fisker | so how was tech support? |
| 06:03.48 | Kraps | eh? |
| 06:04.12 | Fisker | Tier 1 = Tech Support |
| 06:04.23 | Kraps | mk |
| 06:07.10 | Napoleone | they cheat? |
| 06:07.47 | Torhal | Napoleone: They don't have to play by the rules they set for us |
| 06:08.10 | Napoleone | i know. but knowing the "cheating" would help me make my mod easier ;P |
| 06:08.21 | Torhal | C++ code |
| 06:08.29 | Kraps | best part "HOLY SHIT THAT AA GUN IS GONNA PWN US |
| 06:08.37 | Torhal | They're sending shit over the wire to the client, not passing it through the Lua API |
| 06:09.09 | Kraps | "owait the seals just put a slug in the operators head" |
| 06:09.18 | Dagmar | Kraps: huh? |
| 06:09.25 | Dewin | I think I have an addon which for whatever reason massively increased my login time. Anybody know of an addon that reports how long other addons take to load? |
| 06:09.37 | Torhal | Warmup |
| 06:10.11 | Napoleone | dam wonder what that hex code they have in their arguments are for.. too bad i dont read hex ;P |
| 06:10.26 | Kraps | Dagmar: put those 2 together |
| 06:10.28 | Dewin | Torhal: Thanks. |
| 06:11.33 | Dagmar | Kraps: Medal of honor? |
| 06:11.42 | Kraps | ya Dagmar |
| 06:12.04 | mikma | GGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! |
| 06:12.28 | Dagmar | Damn I win for fastest server down |
| 06:12.45 | mikma | Driving with truck. its +0.2 here and the fucking heater is busted |
| 06:13.00 | mikma | jnwhiteh: is that cold enough for you yet? ;) |
| 06:13.28 | Dagmar | I just downloaded Vindictus, got through the opening cinematic, killed two mobs and said "This is kinda interesting looking..." *DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER*. 2Hr maintenance. |
| 06:14.01 | Dagmar | mikma: Maybe do like I do. PLan on the vehicle breaking down and dress appropriately |
| 06:14.01 | mikma | i have 3 layers of clothes and there are still icespiked hanging from my cajones |
| 06:14.17 | TMc51 | Same here |
| 06:14.19 | mikma | dagmar: ^---- |
| 06:14.31 | Dagmar | Mikma: Perhaps one of those layers needs to be black leather |
| 06:14.36 | TMc51 | Except, 4 layers of shirts, and 3 of pants. |
| 06:14.39 | mikma | heheheheheeeee |
| 06:14.53 | mikma | i like your fetish dagmar |
| 06:15.15 | mikma | altho, black leather is not classified as safetycolored workwear |
| 06:15.19 | mikma | so i have to pass |
| 06:15.21 | Dagmar | Not really a fetish. My biker jackets have gotten me through a lot, so I take care of 'em |
| 06:15.42 | Dagmar | Meh. Safety enough for me. No one in their right mind bothers me. |
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| 06:16.44 | mikma | well its the law to keep the yellow/orange in constructionsites |
| 06:16.47 | Dagmar | I watched a dude pull out a knife one night like he was about to try to carjack me, and thought the better of it |
| 06:17.01 | Dagmar | ...which is good because I was already planning on grabbing his arm and driving off. |
| 06:18.10 | mikma | and the long time forecasts say this will be the coldest winter in 1000 years |
| 06:18.13 | Wobin | I'm sure you could find a canary yellow leather jacket |
| 06:18.30 | Napoleone | global warming my ass ;P |
| 06:18.31 | Dagmar | They make blaze orange vests you can wear over stuff |
| 06:18.46 | mikma | wobin: needs to be reflective also |
| 06:19.06 | mikma | dagmar: yeah i have one as yellow and i will prolly use it at winter |
| 06:19.11 | Dagmar | You could probably find a jacket like that at the ricer store |
| 06:20.43 | mikma | ricefetish |
| 06:20.49 | Fisker | i don't wanna go to work :( |
| 06:20.56 | Dewin | bah, Warump doesn't work with 4.0 |
| 06:20.59 | Fisker | runs out kicking and screaming |
| 06:21.28 | mikma | someone try my Note AddOn before i release it |
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| 06:23.39 | mikma | svn://svn.wowinterface.com/mikma-174/Duh |
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| 06:24.32 | TMc51 | what do you need tested with it? |
| 06:24.42 | Kraps | who agrees that glee covers are 10 shades of awesome? |
| 06:25.24 | Dagmar | Yeah it's almost a shame that in reality, that would result in a multi-million dollar lawsuit |
| 06:26.17 | Kraps | really? |
| 06:26.25 | mikma | tmc51: adding the notes and playing the game, feedback and ideas :) |
| 06:26.28 | zenzio | how come? Aren't covers allowed so long as they don't modify it? |
| 06:26.34 | TMc51 | Mikma: Bah, nevermind, forgot I don't have Tortoise installed on this pc. Was going to try it for ya, but too tired to reinstalkl it just to download it. Sorry. |
| 06:26.47 | Kraps | i think it has to be a parody? |
| 06:26.51 | mikma | tmc51: i can zip it |
| 06:27.10 | kapipi | Whats a glee and with what do you cover it? |
| 06:27.13 | TMc51 | If you can, that'd be great. I'll Dl then quickly hop back on and test for ya. |
| 06:27.29 | Eroia | Has anyone successfully hacked their SVN checkouts to change them from one repo to another? |
| 06:27.49 | Eroia | Looks like I should change the .svn/entries file... But... Figured I'd check with other hackers. |
| 06:29.50 | mikma | tmc51: http://mikma.eu/wow/Duh_1.0beta.zip |
| 06:30.10 | TMc51 | thanks, extracting it now. |
| 06:30.18 | mikma | tmc51: all feedback will be logged, gotta go back to work -> |
| 06:30.31 | mikma | tmc51: /d or /duh to add notes |
| 06:30.34 | TMc51 | k |
| 06:32.32 | Dewin | Eroia: Probably can't move it between repositories, but you can move it between folders of the same repo |
| 06:32.41 | ccox | @$%^#$%^ soulwell summonnings will freeze the game |
| 06:32.57 | Kraps | kapipi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glee_%28TV_series%29 |
| 06:32.59 | Napoleone | also Healers cant enter occulus |
| 06:33.17 | zenzio | Napoleone: lol |
| 06:33.35 | Napoleone | not in our group they literary dc and cant log in again |
| 06:33.51 | Napoleone | we did that to about 25 healers last night... we realized it after 2 but it was fun after that ;P |
| 06:35.09 | Dagmar | hahahaha |
| 06:35.41 | Napoleone | well if it worked 25 times in a row and my guildie dc'ed aswell when he got it.. i guess its not random ;) |
| 06:37.27 | Wobin | Napoleone: whut? |
| 06:37.37 | Napoleone | Healers cant enter occulus |
| 06:37.47 | Wobin | hm, what happens if you set your role to healer -after- you zone in? |
| 06:37.59 | Dagmar | The internet breaks. |
| 06:38.10 | Wobin | damn divide by Oculus bug =( |
| 06:38.29 | Dagmar | Few months back we found out that four DPS can apparentl queue |
| 06:38.44 | Napoleone | that one works ;P |
| 06:39.18 | Napoleone | also with the tanking problems now.. my druid has enough hp and armor to be an effective dps tank lol |
| 06:39.47 | Napoleone | boomkintank |
| 06:46.56 | TMc51 | mikma: pm sent on wowinterface with feedback. |
| 06:47.04 | TMc51 | Goodnight everyone. |
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| 06:51.19 | BlackFrog| | Why doesn't 40100 for Interface doesn't work? |
| 06:52.02 | zenzio | probably because they use 40000 |
| 06:52.31 | BlackFrog| | But the current patch is 4.0.1? |
| 06:52.44 | zenzio | that's not important |
| 06:52.58 | BlackFrog| | OK |
| 06:53.32 | nebula169 | 4.1 will be 40100 |
| 06:53.33 | zenzio | in fact, if I remember correctly, 40100 would be 4.1 |
| 06:53.38 | zenzio | damn you nebula169 :-p |
| 06:53.42 | nebula169 | :p |
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| 07:30.17 | zenzio | I'm amused they make guides like these... http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/10/14/10-top-tips-from-a-counter-strike-pro/ |
| 07:30.32 | zenzio | those first three are like... earth-shattering advice that no-one could possibly come up with on their own |
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| 07:32.40 | Iriel | They dont usually update the .toc for minor changes (since it invalidates everyone's addons) |
| 07:32.54 | Iriel | so something that's not XXX00 is rare |
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| 07:36.41 | zenzio | "WANTED: evangelist for Stack Overflow. Great pay and stock. If you can do it, prove it by evangelizing your way into the job (srsly!)" o_O |
| 07:40.08 | Jamash | hee |
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| 07:43.33 | jpapertowels | unsure if i'm in the right channel, but does anyone know if there's an event i can use to figure out when someone in your guild comes online or joins guild, and when someone joins the party/raid |
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| 07:44.30 | zenzio | jpapertowels: believe there are, yes... hold on |
| 07:46.33 | zenzio | jpapertowels: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events - have a look through, there should be events at least for some of those things; not sure if there are for all of them |
| 07:48.34 | jpapertowels | i looked, went through the wowwiki list of events too...couldn't find anything |
| 07:49.17 | jpapertowels | which makes me wonder how chat addons manage to figure that stuff out... :/ |
| 07:49.43 | dafrito | jpapertowels: GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE might be of use. That's one of those events that tells you things have changed, but doesn't tell you how they changed |
| 07:50.11 | zenzio | PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED, RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE |
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| 07:50.35 | zenzio | or just look at the code for those other addons |
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| 07:51.26 | jpapertowels | i need a reliable way to detect only when someone joins the raid/party though >.< the only thing i can think of is generating a whole list of people in the raid/party then checking lengths the next time that event is called |
| 07:51.47 | zenzio | if you checked the code for other addons, I'm pretty sure that's what they do |
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| 07:52.22 | dafrito | Are you making an addon that's like "Foo and Bar have joined the raid"? |
| 07:53.19 | jpapertowels | nope, though my addon is probably against addon site policies though for sure not against blizzards |
| 07:53.33 | zenzio | O_o |
| 07:53.39 | zenzio | so what does your addon do? |
| 07:54.10 | jpapertowels | it lets you edit your gearscore, then sync it through addon channels to gs users lol |
| 07:54.21 | Dagmar | That's just lulsy |
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| 07:54.35 | zenzio | Mr. T pities the fool who cares about GS |
| 07:54.38 | Dagmar | You need to be equipping a slimy bone in every slot. |
| 07:54.52 | Dagmar | It makes a statement. :) |
| 07:55.21 | jpapertowels | hahahah, well, i'm trying to find an effective way to send it to each person who joins the raid |
| 07:55.53 | zenzio | Dagmar: reminds me of in Naxx40, on Razuvious... us add tanks (in my guild at least) would use grey weapons so we didn't injure the adds too much |
| 07:56.26 | jpapertowels | my current way is pretty bad, on a timer sending it to raid every 2 minutes and guild every 5 :( |
| 07:56.46 | zenzio | why are you doing that anyway? |
| 07:57.14 | Dagmar | You don't really have to do it that often |
| 07:57.23 | jpapertowels | my guild leader told me it'd be an awesome idea and i'm bored it's something to entertain myself with |
| 07:58.14 | Dagmar | A mage in epic platemail also says "I like to not die" |
| 07:58.19 | zenzio | reminds me of that addon that would send Gearscore into an infinite loop or something |
| 07:58.37 | zenzio | as much as I dislike GS, I don't find it very nice to disrupt it |
| 07:58.53 | Dagmar | Disrupting it is a bit much |
| 07:59.07 | Dagmar | Pollting a record or two... entertainment! |
| 07:59.11 | Dagmar | er polluting |
| 07:59.48 | Jamash | you could parse "X has joined the raid" system messages |
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| 08:00.02 | Dagmar | Put 'em in a nice frilly dress. |
| 08:00.34 | jpapertowels | wonder if it would work just to send it to guild on login, raid/party on me joining, and respond to GSY_Requests - then let everyone else's gearscore addons do the spreading |
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| 08:00.40 | Jamash | yep |
| 08:00.57 | Jamash | just look at the GS code to see how it does it |
| 08:01.34 | Dagmar | "Very trustingly" |
| 08:01.37 | jpapertowels | and thanks for the equipment ideas, guys - lol, maybe if my addon gets around the maker of gearscore will add the whole specific set as an ignore to stop my addon like he's done with some others xD |
| 08:02.32 | Dagmar | Lemme whisper a thing to ya... |
| 08:02.40 | Dagmar | whispers, "Timestamps... from the FUTURE!" |
| 08:04.01 | jpapertowels | o.O guess i'll use the wowhead profiler to design my err geared out character |
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| 08:10.36 | Wobin | http://monkeyknifefight.tumblr.com/post/1220368468 |
| 08:17.37 | jnwhiteh | anyone familiar with TukUI? |
| 08:17.41 | jnwhiteh | I think it uses oUF, haste? |
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| 08:43.08 | industrial | What's better wording for 'fixing issues on live systems for tier1-2 clients' for on a CV? |
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| 08:51.29 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/806/ |
| 08:51.48 | Adys | industrial: system administration & maintenance |
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| 08:54.19 | Jamash | industria: BOFHing |
| 08:54.35 | Dagmar | The truly noble profession. |
| 08:55.38 | Jamash | noble, eh? |
| 09:04.01 | Wobin | yay! Freebgrid update |
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| 09:23.48 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: what's hovercasting? |
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| 09:25.35 | dafrito | Wobin: Casting by mouseover, would be my guess |
| 09:26.11 | Wobin | I can't seem to get it to work |
| 09:26.23 | Wobin | I'm just not sure what I'm meant to be doing with it =) |
| 09:26.44 | Maldivia | hmm, have they made some changes to how backdrop works, can't get it to tile vertically |
| 09:26.59 | Wobin | I can only assume it's not mouseclicks |
| 09:27.48 | dafrito | Wobin: Well, I dont know what jnwhiteh was talking about when he said it, but casting by mouseover is just a macro with [@mouseover] |
| 09:28.06 | dafrito | So you don't have to click a target, click the keybind. You just mouse over them, and hit the keybind |
| 09:28.16 | Wobin | interesting |
| 09:28.18 | dafrito | It's useful for like, rapid dispelling and stuff |
| 09:31.57 | dafrito | Maldivia: I know they did, but I'm not familiar on what they changed it to. Do you have your code pasted anywhere? |
| 09:33.33 | Maldivia | here's some simple example code: /run f = CreateFrame("Frame", nil, UIParent) f:SetWidth(700) f:SetHeight(700) f:SetPoint("CENTER") f:SetBackdrop({bgFile="Interface\\FrameGeneral\\UI-Background-Rock", tile=1,}) |
| 09:33.38 | Maldivia | doesn't tile vertically |
| 09:35.09 | Maldivia | I noticed that they have horzTile and vertTile in the xml now, but setting that in the table doesn't seem to have any affect |
| 09:35.29 | Maldivia | effect* |
| 09:38.36 | dafrito | Maldivia: Have you seen http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20437376853&sid=1&pageNo=5#86 |
| 09:38.59 | dafrito | That does'nt really give you any good news |
| 09:39.16 | Wobin | oh arse |
| 09:39.23 | Wobin | I've run into the oculus/healer bug |
| 09:39.57 | Maldivia | dafrito: doesn't really apply to backdrops |
| 09:40.33 | dafrito | Yeah, but it does seem eerily familiar |
| 09:40.55 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 09:41.17 | jnwhiteh | Wobin: allows to cast over unit frames and 3d world units by pressing a key instead of needing to click |
| 09:41.26 | jnwhiteh | Bind 'F' to regrowth, and then move around pressing F and never needing to click =) |
| 09:43.28 | nev-mobile | You know, it would be way easier if the actionbar would just do that instead of clique |
| 09:44.11 | jnwhiteh | sure, but they don't. |
| 09:45.56 | nev-mobile | Noone really asked for it. :P |
| 09:45.56 | nev-mobile | Ill make bt do it, there! |
| 09:45.56 | nev-mobile | Its not much more then wrapping onclick and checking if mouseover exists |
| 09:48.14 | nev-mobile | Works with every uf wihout hacks |
| 09:49.42 | nev-mobile | Or even a simple state driver usinh @mouseover, exists |
| 09:49.46 | nev-mobile | Guess that works too |
| 09:50.43 | jnwhiteh | few ways to do it |
| 09:50.57 | jnwhiteh | but now clique can do it so *shrug* |
| 09:56.27 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: a small bugreport for bartender, if you have any highlighted spells when the UI is reloaded, the border animation is about 3x too big :) |
| 09:56.53 | nev-mobile | I saw that |
| 09:56.57 | nev-mobile | I didnt figure out why though |
| 09:57.45 | Maldivia | also, is there a way to remove the borders from the buttons, I might just be blind, but can't find it anywher |
| 09:58.24 | nev-mobile | I'll remove them completly, apparently noone likes them anyway |
| 09:58.31 | nev-mobile | Old version had them gone |
| 09:58.47 | Maldivia | :) |
| 10:00.10 | nev-mobile | So many things to fix, and only 2 days weekend. :( |
| 10:00.56 | Maldivia | heh |
| 10:01.02 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 10:01.24 | Napoleone | Interface action failed because of an addon... care to tell me what failed lol. and yes i have display lua errors |
| 10:02.53 | cairenn | nev-mobile: ping? |
| 10:03.02 | nev-mobile | Pong |
| 10:04.19 | Maldivia | Napoleone: what ever you were trying to do, check the taintlog file in the logs folder :) |
| 10:04.19 | cairenn | quick question for you - I somehow just managed to move the Bartender4 options panel far enough off the top of the screen that I can't grab the title bar to move it back down - where would I find the layout file so I could change the number in there manually? |
| 10:04.27 | Napoleone | aaah |
| 10:05.06 | nev-mobile | A reload should move the panel back to the center |
| 10:05.10 | cairenn | danke |
| 10:05.41 | Napoleone | dont ahve that file |
| 10:06.50 | Maldivia | Napoleone: no taint.log in logs? |
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| 10:07.11 | Maldivia | Napoleone: try /console taintlog 1 |
| 10:07.22 | Maldivia | Napoleone: then next time it happens, it should be registered in that file |
| 10:08.15 | Napoleone | nop no file.. and command done ;P |
| 10:09.30 | Napoleone | is there an easy way of scaling achievement and guildbank frames. they are so redicilously huge |
| 10:11.12 | zenzio | only those frames, not the rest of the UI? |
| 10:11.24 | Napoleone | exactly |
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| 10:14.00 | sylvanaar_work | this messed up my code formatter a = a - -1, lol |
| 10:14.08 | Napoleone | heh |
| 10:14.12 | sylvanaar_work | it removed the space |
| 10:14.15 | Napoleone | sint it a - (-1) |
| 10:14.15 | zenzio | :-o |
| 10:14.29 | zenzio | think - -1 is valid |
| 10:14.29 | sylvanaar_work | yeah |
| 10:14.47 | sylvanaar_work | it reformatted as a = a --1 |
| 10:15.13 | zenzio | where's the code from? |
| 10:15.21 | sylvanaar_work | what code |
| 10:15.31 | sylvanaar_work | the test code |
| 10:15.36 | zenzio | ah |
| 10:15.52 | sylvanaar_work | im trying to break my code formatter |
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| 10:16.42 | sylvanaar_work | lua> a = a --1 |
| 10:16.42 | lua_bot | sylvanaar_work: No output |
| 10:17.03 | sylvanaar_work | lua> a = a -+1; print (a) |
| 10:17.04 | lua_bot | sylvanaar_work: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '+' |
| 10:17.26 | sylvanaar_work | lua> print(+1) |
| 10:17.26 | lua_bot | sylvanaar_work: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '+' |
| 10:17.36 | zenzio | lua> a=10;a=a --1;print(a) |
| 10:17.37 | lua_bot | zenzio: No output |
| 10:17.44 | sylvanaar_work | you see why |
| 10:17.48 | sylvanaar_work | it becomes a comment |
| 10:18.03 | zenzio | I'm just curious about the bots |
| 10:18.11 | zenzio | lua> a=10;a=a - -1;print(a) |
| 10:18.12 | lua_bot | zenzio: 11 |
| 10:19.09 | sylvanaar_work | i needs more code to test my formatter on...anyone want to donate |
| 10:19.59 | nev-mobile | Whoever writes - -1 deserves breakage.:P |
| 10:20.07 | sylvanaar_work | haha |
| 10:20.16 | sylvanaar_work | its one of the offical lua test files |
| 10:21.23 | Napoleone | be a ()whore, it might look messy, but atleast they structure for no misinterpitation |
| 10:21.28 | Jamash | so arkayenro wontfixed my guild bank display bug in arkinventory |
| 10:21.49 | Computerpunk | carbonite |
| 10:21.50 | Computerpunk | for 4.0.1 |
| 10:21.51 | nev-mobile | How about just using + |
| 10:21.52 | Computerpunk | amgggggggggggggggggggg |
| 10:21.54 | Jamash | and I was poking around in the guts of arkinventory to see if I could fix it myself without editing his source |
| 10:22.25 | Jamash | and holy crap arkinventory is badly designed |
| 10:22.29 | Computerpunk | srs bsns |
| 10:22.34 | Computerpunk | Jamash, I'm using gBags. |
| 10:23.01 | Computerpunk | I like it more than ArkInventory. |
| 10:23.07 | Computerpunk | It just works. |
| 10:23.09 | Computerpunk | No modifications needed. |
| 10:23.27 | krka | interesting http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/10/15/0139217/Norwegian-Day-Traders-Convicted-For-Manipulating-Computer-Trading-System |
| 10:27.05 | Napoleone | lol at that story |
| 10:29.10 | Jamash | Computerpunk: does it display the guild vault correctly? |
| 10:30.36 | Jamash | that's my beef with arkinventory, it transposes rows and columns in the guild vault |
| 10:31.02 | Computerpunk | Jamash, it doesn't support the Guild Vault. |
| 10:31.04 | Computerpunk | Only personal bank. |
| 10:31.11 | Jamash | meh |
| 10:31.16 | Computerpunk | And from what I recall that it does to the bank, it does it properly. |
| 10:31.31 | Jamash | maybe I should just fork arkinventory |
| 10:31.43 | Computerpunk | ^If you need help, ask. |
| 10:32.05 | Napoleone | wanna know something funky |
| 10:32.13 | Napoleone | look at the warlocks soulbag ;) |
| 10:32.23 | Jamash | there are no soulbags! |
| 10:32.29 | Napoleone | its now a regular 22 slot bag... for 4 ebonweave and 2 spillweave |
| 10:32.44 | Napoleone | 10g more to make than frostweave bags ;) |
| 10:32.49 | Jamash | huh |
| 10:33.54 | Jamash | so anyway more arkinventory bashing: it creates a button for each item in each bank tab |
| 10:34.13 | Computerpunk | So, Jamash want to pick it up and ress it? |
| 10:34.20 | Jamash | 6 tabs * 98 items = 588 widgets |
| 10:34.25 | Computerpunk | gg lag |
| 10:35.05 | Jamash | instead of doing the sensible thing and re-using widgets |
| 10:35.24 | Jamash | I just made a macro to count arkinventory's widget usage |
| 10:35.28 | Jamash | 9022 widgets |
| 10:35.41 | Computerpunk | gimme macro. |
| 10:35.45 | Computerpunk | so I can count for gBags. |
| 10:36.15 | Computerpunk | ima brb realyl fast |
| 10:36.19 | Jamash | mmk |
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| 10:36.49 | Jamash | local t={};for k,v in pairs(_G)do if strfind(k,"ARKINV_") then local y=type(v);if y=="table" and v.GetParent then t.widget = (t.widget or 0) + 1 else t[y] = (t[y] or 0) + 1 end ;t.total = (t.total or 0) + 1 end end;DevTools_Dump(t) |
| 10:37.12 | Jamash | you'll need to replace "ARKINV_" with the prefix gBags uses for widgets |
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| 10:48.54 | Computerpunk | It has its own libs. |
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| 10:51.09 | Computerpunk | I need to install WoWLua |
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| 10:56.53 | Wobin | jnwhiteh: the hovercast sometimes doesn't work |
| 10:57.03 | Wobin | ie, it'll work with one binding, but not another |
| 10:57.32 | Wobin | oh wait, needed to rl |
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| 11:12.38 | Napoleone | qanyone know about the tailoring specialities. removed? |
| 11:16.48 | jnwhiteh | Oh God! |
| 11:17.17 | jnwhiteh | a friend of the family, there 22 month old son shot himself in the heart with a power nailer. It went into his heart. He's obviously in critical condition, but how terrible! |
| 11:17.24 | jnwhiteh | I hope he comes out of it =( |
| 11:17.55 | nev-mobile | How terrible of the parents to let him reach it |
| 11:18.15 | cairenn | omg |
| 11:18.27 | nev-mobile | Dont leave powertools around babys |
| 11:18.37 | cairenn | my prayers are with them |
| 11:19.25 | Kalroth | poor baby |
| 11:19.29 | Jamash | yikes, hope he turns out okay |
| 11:20.30 | Kalroth | and shame on the parent that let the tool lay around for the baby to reach .. of course said person is probably already feeling pretty bad about it |
| 11:21.29 | nev-mobile | Google reveals that there was a hoax going around with those exact specs |
| 11:21.34 | nev-mobile | is confused |
| 11:22.17 | Xyphoid | haha nice |
| 11:22.39 | Xyphoid | good instincts there |
| 11:22.50 | krka | omg that's awful jnwhiteh, hope he recovers |
| 11:23.38 | krka | my daughter is 22 months, i'd be devastated if anything like that happened to her, must be really hard on the parents |
| 11:24.11 | Kalroth | nev-mobile: heh, http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/prayer/nailgun.asp |
| 11:24.20 | nev-mobile | I think its a hoax. Too similar to the hoax going through news just 1 month ago, i mean how many 22month old boys shot themself with a nail gun in the chest |
| 11:25.25 | Computerpunk | jnwhiteh, Jesus Christ... |
| 11:25.41 | Computerpunk | Hope he gets better. |
| 11:25.43 | Jamash | I hope it's ahoax |
| 11:26.19 | nev-mobile | Its the exact description of the facebook hoax from a month back |
| 11:26.19 | krka | i assume it's not a hoax, since jnwhitehs says it was a friend of his family |
| 11:26.40 | nev-mobile | Its too similar to be a coincedence |
| 11:26.42 | Xyphoid | what do you reckon it was an email from relatives |
| 11:27.06 | nev-mobile | Also, worms target facebook to spread those for fun |
| 11:27.12 | Jamash | I assume it is a hoax since my cousin's sister's friend's uncle's dog told me a story about a woman who had spiders living in her hair. |
| 11:27.45 | msoul | Hello there peeps |
| 11:27.46 | Jamash | ( http://www.snopes.com/horrors/vanities/hairdo.asp ) |
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| 11:33.23 | ZorbaTHut | huh. so apparently the original author of QH is making a QH2 . . . starting over from scratch |
| 11:33.32 | ZorbaTHut | nice determination, but I'm not entirely convinced that's the best approach. |
| 11:33.41 | nev-mobile | I saw that project |
| 11:34.31 | ZorbaTHut | I'm pretty sure he's doomed. in a month he might be able to get something equivalent to, like, QH 0.20. Maybe. It won't be anything like 1.4 was, and, well, I saw his attempt at a path optimizer. |
| 11:35.02 | Jamash | I thought you were the original author :P |
| 11:35.02 | ZorbaTHut | I sort of hope he decides to cannibalize a lot of my stuff. |
| 11:35.05 | nev-mobile | Nah, he just stole it. :p |
| 11:35.07 | ZorbaTHut | jamash, nah, the original author got bored and quit, I took it over shortly before Wrath |
| 11:35.11 | Jamash | ah |
| 11:35.40 | ZorbaTHut | ended up rewriting most of it - the UI was solid, and some of the logic was good, but eventually I tore pretty much all of it out. |
| 11:35.48 | Jamash | I haven't felt a need for it since blizzard put theirs in. |
| 11:35.57 | ZorbaTHut | I still rather like the routing |
| 11:36.12 | ZorbaTHut | if I had a lot of spare time I'd rig one up that just paid attention to the blizzard map objectives. still not as good, but it'd be something |
| 11:36.16 | ZorbaTHut | I don't have that time though. |
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| 11:38.09 | Jamash | so many broken addons |
| 11:39.39 | Computerpunk | Jamash, so if you ever decide on making an ArkInventory patch and you need help. |
| 11:39.40 | Computerpunk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:40.39 | Jamash | well, I already did and posted it on the arkinventory issue tracker and arkayenro marked it wontfix :-X |
| 11:40.56 | Computerpunk | wat? |
| 11:41.00 | Jamash | beats me |
| 11:41.04 | Computerpunk | Let's fork! |
| 11:41.05 | Computerpunk | :D |
| 11:41.08 | Jamash | eh |
| 11:41.19 | Computerpunk | icense: All Rights Reserved |
| 11:41.20 | Computerpunk | damn |
| 11:41.20 | Computerpunk | :p |
| 11:41.22 | Jamash | it's a two-line fix, I can just insert it manually when he updates |
| 11:41.29 | Jamash | can't be |
| 11:41.39 | Computerpunk | it's ARR |
| 11:41.45 | Computerpunk | nothing much we can do about that |
| 11:41.47 | Jamash | on googlecode it's GPLv2 |
| 11:42.02 | Computerpunk | then we base it from googlecode one |
| 11:42.16 | Computerpunk | and tell him, yo look here, kthxbai. |
| 11:42.18 | nev-mobile | Some people just dont change the licence on the web page |
| 11:42.33 | Jamash | I don't feel like maintaining a whole fork for two lines worth of changes though |
| 11:42.36 | nev-mobile | Look in the code if it has another licence header |
| 11:42.56 | Computerpunk | we could both work on it and optimize. |
| 11:43.04 | Computerpunk | and make better addon. |
| 11:43.08 | Computerpunk | profit?!?!?$$$ |
| 11:43.17 | Computerpunk | I'm playing half-troll atm. |
| 11:43.20 | Computerpunk | But I'm dead serious. |
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| 11:51.54 | Computerpunk | question. |
| 11:52.02 | Computerpunk | If I'm Maintainer on an AddOn |
| 11:52.04 | Computerpunk | Am I allowed to Fork? |
| 11:52.17 | Computerpunk | If things get ugly with the Manager? |
| 11:52.25 | mikma | i'll knife you |
| 11:53.27 | Computerpunk | was just asking |
| 11:53.42 | Computerpunk | Pretty much like the name of UnderHood. |
| 11:53.50 | Xinhuan | that's for you to work out with the copyright holder |
| 11:54.12 | Computerpunk | License |
| 11:54.12 | Computerpunk | GNU General Public License version 2 (GPLv2) |
| 11:54.25 | Xinhuan | then fork the hell out of it |
| 11:54.30 | cbreak_work | gpl allows forking explicitly |
| 11:55.23 | Computerpunk | I will when I consider decide that I've done enough work on it to call it my own. |
| 11:55.23 | Computerpunk | xD |
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| 11:56.11 | Computerpunk | Gotta read more on Licenses. |
| 11:56.11 | Computerpunk | >_> |
| 11:56.14 | Napoleone | hmm if the taint is PlayerFrame:ClearAllPoints() and PlayerFrame:SetPoint() |
| 11:56.34 | Napoleone | what can i do about that? |
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| 12:01.10 | Jamash | nothing? |
| 12:01.35 | bluspacecow | run around |
| 12:01.37 | bluspacecow | screaming |
| 12:02.36 | Jamash | why did they make flasks *and* potions of wild magic take lichbloom :( |
| 12:02.52 | bluspacecow | glub glub glub |
| 12:03.09 | Napoleone | nom nom nom |
| 12:03.35 | foxlit | Wheh, a Flux Vanes nerf |
| 12:03.47 | foxlit | I wonder why anyone would bother with void rays now |
| 12:05.05 | foxlit | ability cooldown changes are another protoss nerf, though it's actually nice. |
| 12:05.13 | bluspacecow | void rays? |
| 12:05.19 | bluspacecow | flying vaginas ? |
| 12:06.01 | Jamash | flux what? |
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| 12:06.13 | Jamash | void who? |
| 12:06.18 | Jamash | SPEAK ENGLISH |
| 12:07.07 | foxlit | never! |
| 12:07.34 | Jamash | orcish? |
| 12:08.06 | nev-mobile | Nelfish? |
| 12:08.09 | Computerpunk | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14870144146&sid=1&pageNo=1#0 |
| 12:08.11 | Computerpunk | <_< |
| 12:08.15 | foxlit | sc2 patch |
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| 12:10.37 | Jamash | MAH TIGER |
| 12:10.44 | Jamash | brb farming zg |
| 12:11.10 | Computerpunk | ^ |
| 12:11.17 | Computerpunk | Anyone here from Executus-EU? |
| 12:11.58 | Jamash | hey nev make xparky show the rep value on the LDB display |
| 12:13.05 | nev-mobile | It has a ldb thingy? |
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| 12:13.08 | amro | foxlit: surprise void rays are still pretty damn good, and damage vs light wasn't nerfed that much |
| 12:13.14 | Jamash | ll |
| 12:13.16 | Jamash | lol |
| 12:13.29 | foxlit | amro: what are they good /against/? :) |
| 12:13.44 | nev-mobile | I only use it for the shiny bar |
| 12:13.52 | Jamash | huh |
| 12:14.09 | nev-mobile | (And its not my addon) |
| 12:14.18 | nev-mobile | Blame the wobster |
| 12:14.22 | Jamash | ur name is on it in my curse thingy |
| 12:14.24 | amro | foxlit: still the fastest way for toss to break down an early wall without losing 10 zealots |
| 12:14.46 | foxlit | "early" and "void ray" seems to be a contradiction |
| 12:14.51 | amro | not at all |
| 12:15.00 | amro | you know you can go core -> stargate |
| 12:15.07 | amro | then build the rest of your gateways |
| 12:15.17 | foxlit | it's gate -> core -> star -> death by marines |
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| 12:15.40 | Jamash | death -> star -> ackbar -> trap |
| 12:15.44 | amro | if you're bad |
| 12:15.46 | amro | l2sentry |
| 12:15.58 | foxlit | you must construct additional assimilators |
| 12:16.12 | Lopeppeppy | We require more vespene gas |
| 12:16.20 | amro | yeah, you're getting a freaking void ray, you should have both gases |
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| 12:17.20 | amro | point is, it now has several weaknesses like most mid-late units |
| 12:17.33 | amro | so you can't just rush a vr and win for free because the other guy is still getting lair |
| 12:17.44 | Lopeppeppy | If it were indestructible, it would be OP and need the nerfbat. |
| 12:17.51 | amro | yep |
| 12:17.57 | foxlit | My intuition is that you won't be able to hold your gate while racing for the ray -- additional sentries will delay your ray, so it's meh. |
| 12:18.05 | Jamash | does sc have custom leagues or anything yet? |
| 12:18.08 | nev-mobile | where is the fun in the nerfbat |
| 12:18.09 | Jamash | *sc2 |
| 12:18.14 | amro | your assumption is that he's going super hard early push |
| 12:18.20 | foxlit | Of course, I'm thinking of TvP not PvZ |
| 12:18.36 | foxlit | And if he isn't, why isn't he? :) |
| 12:18.57 | foxlit | zerg AA is a bit sticky. I usually get two queens. |
| 12:19.00 | amro | because early zealots kill anything he's able to field once you reach the critical mass he can't kite |
| 12:19.56 | foxlit | Or the bioball will reach critical mass that'll wipe the zealots before they can get in range |
| 12:20.00 | foxlit | critical masses are fun. |
| 12:20.12 | amro | yeah, 50 food bioball 6 minutes in |
| 12:20.15 | amro | that happens all the time |
| 12:20.30 | amro | look, if you scout and see 4 barracks going down, you know you need to defend so don't do anything fancy |
| 12:20.33 | amro | it's all about scouting |
| 12:20.41 | nev-mobile | detects sarcasm there |
| 12:21.21 | amro | it really is INTENDED that certain strategies destroy others |
| 12:21.27 | amro | that's really the whole point |
| 12:21.30 | Jamash | lol @ jpmorganchase ad talking about how awesome they are for lending to the little people after the crash they helped cause |
| 12:21.30 | foxlit | I'm not complaining about the balance. |
| 12:21.44 | amro | and I'm not saying you should get an early void ray all the time |
| 12:21.53 | foxlit | I'm just having a hard time imagining why I'd have a hard time dealing with a void ray, at any point in the game |
| 12:21.55 | amro | depends on the map, the opponent, the early build, etc |
| 12:22.02 | foxlit | At that point, it becomes a "why am I bothering?" unit |
| 12:22.23 | amro | because people don't get AA unless they're expecting/suspecting VRs |
| 12:22.34 | amro | if you hide 4 VRs and they show up at his mineral line |
| 12:22.35 | amro | yeah |
| 12:22.38 | amro | that's going to be a lot of hurt |
| 12:22.46 | amro | especially if you combo it with a gateway push |
| 12:22.50 | amro | so he's unsure where to send his units |
| 12:23.08 | foxlit | This presupposes some sort of weird skillset mismatch. |
| 12:23.20 | amro | not at all |
| 12:23.29 | amro | this presupposes your opponent has chosen to macro up |
| 12:23.35 | amro | instead of trying to kill you fast |
| 12:23.58 | foxlit | Your opponent has no sense of timing, and does not scout you? |
| 12:24.07 | amro | [13:22] <amro> if you hide 4 VRs and they show up at his mineral line |
| 12:24.21 | amro | you really need to stop bringing up the one scenario that makes the plan fail each time |
| 12:24.24 | amro | of course there's a weakness |
| 12:24.34 | amro | but there's no way he's going to have every weakness of every possible build covered |
| 12:24.44 | amro | if he sees your stargate, cancel it and do something else |
| 12:24.48 | amro | this is just basic |
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| 12:35.37 | Computerpunk | I just realised. |
| 12:35.42 | Computerpunk | Why people got Honor Points in instances. |
| 12:35.47 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 12:35.48 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 12:35.50 | Computerpunk | just lol |
| 12:35.52 | nev-mobile | Its stone keeper shards |
| 12:35.55 | zenzio | one "lol" is enough |
| 12:37.01 | Computerpunk | nev-mobile, yeah. |
| 12:39.23 | |Jelly| | huggles Peppy. Glyphmas is over for me. :( |
| 12:40.16 | nev-mobile | Glyphmas, eh |
| 12:40.30 | nev-mobile | Prices coming down? |
| 12:41.03 | |Jelly| | Not really -- I'm running out of glyphs |
| 12:41.12 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Jelly-bear. |
| 12:41.27 | |Jelly| | Ok, yeah they came down too, but my big issue is how many glyphs I don't have. |
| 12:41.44 | nev-mobile | Ill sell you some herbs for supreme premium |
| 12:42.22 | |Jelly| | I'm sorry but anyone that buys herbs for more than 50g a stack probably wears a helmet on a daily basis. :P |
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| 12:43.09 | bluspacecow | brb need hot choc. |
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| 12:43.49 | nev-mobile | Anyone who buys glyphs for more then. 20 a pop is crazy as well |
| 12:44.48 | |Jelly| | The difference is people are doing that, I really don't see herbs moving for stupid prices -- there's no money in it. |
| 12:45.33 | |Jelly| | And by 'see' I mean I've been keeping an eye on it. :P |
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| 12:46.13 | harl | wuff-wuff |
| 12:46.35 | nev-mobile | I just got all important glyphs last week |
| 12:46.45 | nev-mobile | Anticipating this increase |
| 12:46.46 | nebula169 | had a buddy convert 3000 ink of sea into 30k tues-thurs |
| 12:47.17 | nev-mobile | Its the only time they earn money anyhow |
| 12:47.20 | nev-mobile | So let em |
| 12:47.32 | |Jelly| | Yeah, I'm at 50k and my roomie is at 95k so I'm not too upset, considering. |
| 12:47.46 | nebula169 | glyph prices on our server are run by a cartel ;[ rare that the drop below 50g |
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| 12:48.03 | Computerpunk | <|Jelly|> I'm sorry but anyone that buys herbs for more than 50g a stack probably wears a helmet on a daily basis. :P |
| 12:48.05 | Computerpunk | hey! |
| 12:48.05 | Computerpunk | :( |
| 12:48.22 | |Jelly| | :P |
| 12:48.30 | Computerpunk | "probably wears a helmet on a daily basis. :P" |
| 12:48.30 | Computerpunk | :< |
| 12:48.33 | nev-mobile | Theyll probably stay higher now, but you only have to buy once |
| 12:48.58 | Computerpunk | It's an incredible cripple to Scribe money making. |
| 12:49.09 | nebula169 | was funny to see people selling stacks of vanishing powder for 100g on the ah, lol |
| 12:49.16 | |Jelly| | incredible .. |
| 12:49.33 | Computerpunk | Like, if new characters don't come rolling, scribes are f'ed. |
| 12:49.42 | nev-mobile | The lvl 85 dust is still there |
| 12:49.54 | |Jelly| | And chanters whined when they 'broke' their profession. lol |
| 12:49.54 | zenzio | oops: http://failblog.org/2010/10/14/epic-fail-video-garage-lift-fail/ |
| 12:50.12 | nev-mobile | But there are other profs that dont make money |
| 12:50.13 | foxlit | eep, beta patch |
| 12:50.33 | |Jelly| | I have a max engineer too. lol |
| 12:50.43 | nev-mobile | Me too |
| 12:50.52 | nev-mobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:50.54 | nebula169 | just scribe and eng, really, profs that see consumables |
| 12:51.04 | nebula169 | glyphs and arrows/bullets |
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| 12:51.47 | Lopeppeppy | I have professions to make crap for myself. Money, not so much. |
| 12:51.59 | nebula169 | pretty much, lol |
| 12:52.00 | zenzio | same |
| 12:52.18 | nev-mobile | I'm an alchemist, never really made money since the potion changes |
| 12:52.28 | |Jelly| | Yeah for the record, I'm not upset .. I knew the bottom would drop out eventually. At least now I get to sleep more, instead of waiting to relist because someone undercut me by 1c. |
| 12:52.33 | foxlit | nev-mobile: flasks? |
| 12:53.03 | nev-mobile | I'm too lazy to collect herbs in big quantities |
| 12:53.07 | nebula169 | speaking of alchemy, seemed kinda silly to remove mixology |
| 12:53.19 | nev-mobile | And buying herbs was never that big of a gain |
| 12:53.35 | nebula169 | nev-mobile, you just need to recruit the chinese farms to cod them to you en masse |
| 12:53.40 | nebula169 | famers* |
| 12:53.44 | nebula169 | farmers, even |
| 12:54.07 | nev-mobile | Hehe, guess that would work. :P |
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| 13:04.44 | Jamash | man blizzard completely destroying overhead nameplates makes soloing the tiger boss hard :( |
| 13:05.23 | Jamash | I really don't understand why they brought the patch to live servers with crippling usability bugs like that |
| 13:06.36 | zenzio | score for British humour: http://chzoddlyspecific.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/1abb5460-99a5-44d9-974a-9ba57c3397ca.jpg |
| 13:07.11 | cairenn | lol |
| 13:07.33 | ZorbaTHut | jamash, my theory is that they're crazy pressed for time with cataclysm. they botched the intended timing and they're just crunched trying to get it out fast enough |
| 13:07.39 | Jamash | could be |
| 13:08.04 | ZorbaTHut | I think they either underestimated the scope, or started things too late, or just royally fucked up, and one way or another they're having major problems meeting their intended release date. |
| 13:08.20 | cairenn | plus trying to make sure they are all set for BC next week |
| 13:08.40 | cairenn | it was, imo, dumb of them to try to push it the week before bc |
| 13:08.41 | zenzio | poor guys |
| 13:09.02 | foxlit | meh, better sooner than later |
| 13:09.08 | ZorbaTHut | I'd have more sympathy if they hadn't originally planned to release cataclysm a few months ago ;) |
| 13:09.19 | zenzio | when did they say they did? |
| 13:09.56 | ZorbaTHut | early in wrath, they said they were trying hard to avoid a two-year cycle, and they didn't want another BC issue where they either rushed a final raid or sat you at the last raid for half a year |
| 13:10.07 | ZorbaTHut | obviously they ended up with a two-year cycle where we were sitting at Arthas for half a year. |
| 13:10.13 | zenzio | ah, that would explain why I don't remember it |
| 13:11.07 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 13:11.07 | Computerpunk | xd |
| 13:11.41 | foxlit | meh, icc is a better sunwell than sunwell. |
| 13:11.51 | foxlit | although could do with a bit of redecorating |
| 13:12.07 | zenzio | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/10/13/demotivational-posters-fact-2/ |
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| 13:13.23 | alestane | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/10/14/demotivational-posters-meanwhile-at-the-viagra-laboratory/ , zenzio. |
| 13:14.18 | zenzio | :-) |
| 13:15.00 | Jamash | note to self: specced pets tank much better than unspecced pets |
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| 13:15.17 | Jamash | also, glyph of misdirect |
| 13:15.30 | Jamash | anyway, tiger boss down, no mount |
| 13:15.57 | Jamash | should I bother with the raptor? |
| 13:16.16 | amro | been killing raptor for like a year |
| 13:16.17 | amro | no mount |
| 13:16.26 | Jamash | I really don't care that much since I'm a troll |
| 13:16.33 | Jamash | I *have* raptors |
| 13:16.35 | amro | im glad you admit that |
| 13:16.59 | Jamash | I'll troll you |
| 13:17.25 | zenzio | same goes for all horde really (I think... can't they all ride raptors?) |
| 13:17.26 | Jamash | actually I can't remember where the raptor boss is |
| 13:17.36 | Jamash | if you're exalted with sen'jin, yeah |
| 13:18.14 | amro | sen'jin? isn't the faction darkspear trolls? |
| 13:18.27 | alestane | I find the picture fairly interesting without the caption...different sort of sculpture: http://verydemotivational.com/2010/10/14/demotivational-posters-cpo/ |
| 13:19.13 | alestane | And VeryDemotivational is just full of strange things today: http://verydemotivational.com/2010/10/14/demotivational-posters-bdsm-bears/ |
| 13:19.21 | Jamash | yeah, w/e |
| 13:19.31 | Jamash | every other faction is named after a city |
| 13:19.34 | Jamash | we don't have a cit |
| 13:19.37 | Jamash | city |
| 13:19.39 | Jamash | we have a hut |
| 13:20.05 | cairenn | they do seem to have their kink on today, don't they alestane? |
| 13:20.30 | zenzio | it's terrible those adys when you forget your kink at home |
| 13:20.33 | zenzio | ... |
| 13:20.34 | zenzio | days |
| 13:20.34 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/demotivational-posters-cutting-edge.jpg |
| 13:20.45 | alestane | The sad, or perhaps awesome, part is, I know people who would love those bears. |
| 13:20.46 | zenzio | what an intriguing typo that was |
| 13:20.57 | cairenn | so do I |
| 13:21.05 | amro | zenzio: freudian slip imo |
| 13:21.09 | cairenn | ^^ |
| 13:21.11 | zenzio | amro: perhaps |
| 13:22.22 | Jamash | wtf |
| 13:22.41 | Jamash | feared into raptors, died |
| 13:22.41 | alestane | This one is just bizarre... http://verydemotivational.com/2010/10/13/demotivational-posters-smart-cars/ |
| 13:23.20 | Jamash | buh |
| 13:23.30 | alestane | ??? http://verydemotivational.com/2010/10/12/demotivational-posters-meanwhile-6/ |
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| 13:27.28 | Adys | zenzio, amro: dont worry, Im used to it |
| 13:27.28 | zenzio | http://kuvaton.com/browse/15898/mental_disorder.jpg |
| 13:27.30 | Lopeppeppy | Looks stuffed to me, alestane |
| 13:27.33 | Adys | like people saying |
| 13:28.08 | Adys | "I just had one of those adys where at the end you're so tired, you're covered in sweat and feel like you just ran a marathon" |
| 13:28.20 | zenzio | lol |
| 13:29.09 | Ackis | what bothers you most Adys, getting days spelled wrong, or getting confused with me? :P |
| 13:29.31 | Adys | it's a good question. i'd say getting confused with you |
| 13:29.36 | industrial | hello thar im covered in sweat |
| 13:29.46 | industrial | just came home from cycling like 40km |
| 13:29.47 | Ackis | that's how I feel too Adys |
| 13:29.48 | Adys | it does bother me, "days" misspellings, but they're not that common |
| 13:29.50 | industrial | in the rain and wind. |
| 13:32.02 | Ackis | I wonder if someone could do both at once |
| 13:32.22 | Ackis | like "hey Adys are you going to update ARL one of these adys? |
| 13:32.25 | Ackis | " |
| 13:32.55 | Cide | Shirik: hi |
| 13:34.24 | Ackis | when is 4.0.3? |
| 13:35.11 | nevcairiel | one week before cata |
| 13:35.18 | Adys | Ackis |
| 13:35.22 | mikma | mikma |
| 13:35.26 | Adys | you know what the difference is between you and I? |
| 13:35.29 | Adys | apart from nationality. |
| 13:35.36 | mikma | everything |
| 13:35.42 | Adys | i have a gurky |
| 13:35.43 | Adys | you dont. |
| 13:35.49 | Thunder_Child | are they going to do the install cata reapply previous patch crap they seem to always do? |
| 13:36.00 | Ackis | i hate you Adys |
| 13:36.02 | Thunder_Child | or did they get smart this time |
| 13:36.10 | nevcairiel | we wont know until it hits! |
| 13:36.10 | Adys | Thunder_Child: new client |
| 13:36.21 | nevcairiel | hopefully we'll be able to play with the beta client again |
| 13:36.31 | Ackis | I was going to buy a razashi raptor for 4k gold last night, then there's the blue announcement about it being removed from the game and I didn't get back in time to buy it |
| 13:36.34 | Adys | god no |
| 13:36.37 | Adys | you dont want that nevcairiel |
| 13:36.39 | Adys | trust me |
| 13:36.51 | Adys | the more patches are in the backlog, the slower the client is |
| 13:36.51 | nevcairiel | I dont want to have to waste 2 hours installing all that shit again |
| 13:37.05 | nevcairiel | i would reinstall it eventually |
| 13:37.06 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 13:37.15 | Adys | erm |
| 13:37.22 | Adys | the 4.0.1 client will be used for cataclysm |
| 13:37.28 | Adys | start reinstalling now |
| 13:38.11 | Ackis | didn't you also say cataclysm was coming out in november? |
| 13:38.21 | nevcairiel | its 7th december |
| 13:38.36 | Ackis | I know, I'm mocking Adys |
| 13:38.47 | Adys | hey Ackis |
| 13:38.51 | Adys | did you say you wanted a gurky? |
| 13:38.52 | Adys | I HAVE ONE |
| 13:38.55 | Adys | YOU CANT HAVE IT |
| 13:38.57 | Ackis | I can't have one |
| 13:39.01 | Ackis | I'm on a US account |
| 13:39.06 | nevcairiel | Adys: so, to your assumptions, i will just apply some patch, and my live client will be ready for cataclysm? no reinstalling or shit? |
| 13:39.07 | Adys | US accounts can have one |
| 13:39.11 | Adys | you just need the key. |
| 13:39.13 | Stanzilla | I want one :( |
| 13:39.16 | Adys | nevcairiel: yep |
| 13:39.21 | Ackis | cool |
| 13:39.22 | Adys | and it's not an assumption |
| 13:39.27 | Adys | thats how the client works |
| 13:39.28 | Ackis | I need playtime then |
| 13:39.30 | Adys | and what the oldworld mpqs are for |
| 13:39.44 | nevcairiel | they seem to be for 4.0.3 |
| 13:39.45 | Adys | the -oldworld mpqs are a patch on TOP of the cataclysm client |
| 13:39.48 | nevcairiel | so they can have both in there |
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| 13:39.58 | nevcairiel | old word and shattered world |
| 13:40.03 | Adys | when you'll "install" cataclysm |
| 13:40.04 | nevcairiel | but what about the new content? |
| 13:40.07 | Adys | all you'll do is uninstall oldworld |
| 13:40.16 | Adys | nevcairiel: most of it is in already |
| 13:41.37 | nevcairiel | I'll hopefully get my key early enough to find out before content goes live |
| 13:42.09 | Ackis | if you don't install cataclysm, will you be able to play in the old world? |
| 13:42.15 | nevcairiel | (will i still need the physical disc?) |
| 13:42.19 | nevcairiel | Ackis: of course |
| 13:42.25 | nevcairiel | the old world breakage is in 4.0.3 |
| 13:42.43 | Ackis | but it breaks for everyone? or is it phased? |
| 13:42.55 | nevcairiel | breaks for everyone |
| 13:42.58 | Ackis | ah |
| 13:43.03 | nevcairiel | dont have to buy cata to see the revised old world |
| 13:43.23 | Ackis | I'm just trying to find a way to see the old world |
| 13:43.29 | mikma | i got reported to GM by linking Supermassive Fail into trade |
| 13:43.46 | Ackis | good mikma |
| 13:43.55 | Ackis | trade chat is for trading of items only |
| 13:43.56 | cogwheel | kicks the new launcher's Play button in the nuts |
| 13:44.09 | mikma | no no |
| 13:44.15 | mikma | i got reported for HACKING |
| 13:44.20 | mikma | and linking fake links |
| 13:44.29 | Lopeppeppy | cogwheel, I hear that is a problem for a lot of people! |
| 13:44.38 | nevcairiel | its way loud |
| 13:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | is throwing a temper. She wants a help desk ticketing system! |
| 13:49.10 | Xinhuan | its a bit funny ackis |
| 13:49.21 | Xinhuan | i went to zg every reset since i heard |
| 13:49.25 | Xinhuan | zg will be removed |
| 13:49.35 | Xinhuan | the one single time i decided to aoe a pack of raptors |
| 13:49.38 | Xinhuan | Razzashi Hatchling dropped |
| 13:50.27 | alestane | Removed? |
| 13:51.18 | Xinhuan | will be removed when zg is removed in 4.0.3 |
| 13:51.19 | Lopeppeppy | Awww! Why on earth take something out? |
| 13:51.26 | Jamash | man soloing bloodlord sucks |
| 13:51.29 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: they're taking a lot of stuff out |
| 13:51.34 | Stanzilla | last time I was in ZG |
| 13:51.37 | Ackis | Xinhuan: which raptors do you kill? |
| 13:51.38 | Stanzilla | it dropped 3 times, Xinhuan |
| 13:51.42 | Stanzilla | from 2 groups |
| 13:51.52 | Xinhuan | just the standard pack of 6 raptors all over? |
| 13:51.55 | Stanzilla | Ackis: all raptors |
| 13:51.58 | Xinhuan | the drop rate is like 1% |
| 13:52.05 | Xinhuan | so just kill like 100 of them or something |
| 13:52.13 | Xinhuan | reset instance a few times at most |
| 13:52.35 | Ackis | Xinhuan: drop rates are misleading, but if I get a gamecard fiancee and I were gonna do some ZG (she knows I've been emo lately so she wants to cheer me up w/ a ZG run lol) |
| 13:53.02 | Xinhuan | well i can tell you its not soemthing u want to spend 4k on :P |
| 13:53.17 | Ackis | there's one up there for 10k |
| 13:53.18 | Ackis | :( |
| 13:53.32 | Ackis | I hardly play wow =/ |
| 13:53.45 | Ackis | not fun just an annoying grind forcing me to play with anti-social cliques |
| 13:54.00 | DWSR | Today's XKCD is full of win |
| 13:54.19 | Xinhuan | its worth a few hundred gold at most, but 4 digits, no |
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| 13:54.31 | Ackis | all the raptor hatchlings are overpriced |
| 13:54.38 | DWSR | http://questionablecontent.net/ |
| 13:54.41 | DWSR | Also full of win |
| 13:55.09 | alestane | Xinhuan, do you have a source for that? Not disputing it, just never saw anything about it. |
| 13:55.10 | industrial | TOC is 40000 ? |
| 13:55.21 | Xinhuan | source on what? |
| 13:55.27 | Xinhuan | zg's removal? |
| 13:55.28 | industrial | DWSR: been readin that for years :D |
| 13:55.39 | Xinhuan | it was posted like 2 months back |
| 13:55.43 | DWSR | It's not getting removed. |
| 13:55.49 | Ackis | http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ |
| 13:55.51 | DWSR | It's getting turned into a leveling zone. |
| 13:55.52 | Ackis | posted there again |
| 13:55.55 | Jamash | zg is getting removed as an instance |
| 13:56.03 | Xinhuan | by "zg removed" i mean that the raid instance is removed |
| 13:56.24 | Xinhuan | so there is no more zg or any of the drops you can get from that instance |
| 13:56.30 | Ackis | Swift Zulian Tiger, Swift Razzashi Raptor, Razzashi Hatchling, Crusader's White/Black Warhorse and Swift Alliance Steed/Swift Horde Wolf are all being removed |
| 13:56.41 | Ackis | polymorph turtle is being moved to another means |
| 13:56.49 | industrial | whats the 4.0.1 toc version #? 40000? |
| 13:57.01 | cairenn | yes |
| 13:57.06 | industrial | ok |
| 13:57.17 | zenzio | if only this was in the topic or something |
| 13:57.25 | Ackis | Feat of Strength: Veteran of the Shifting Sands <-- that quest line is probably being removed as well eh? |
| 13:57.35 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 13:57.47 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560871177&pageNo=1&sid=2000#18 |
| 13:57.54 | Xinhuan | posted 6 weeks ago |
| 13:58.04 | DWSR | http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=297 |
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| 13:58.10 | Ackis | Xinhuan: is the questline removed right now? |
| 13:58.13 | DWSR | no |
| 13:58.22 | Xinhuan | the quest line still exists 4.0.1 |
| 13:58.23 | DWSR | Not until the world changes go through for Cataclysm. |
| 13:58.26 | Xinhuan | but not in 4.0.3 |
| 13:58.45 | Xinhuan | here ackis |
| 13:58.46 | Xinhuan | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969039696&sid=1 |
| 13:58.48 | industrial | zenzio: >< |
| 13:58.52 | Xinhuan | this post tells you |
| 13:58.57 | Xinhuan | exactly which steps are gone, which are not |
| 13:59.25 | zenzio | industrial: hehe, sorry; but I think the toc number has always been in the topic in here... at least as long as I can remember |
| 13:59.49 | BlackFrog| | Can I test addon without WOW? |
| 14:00.12 | Arrowmaster | you can test for syntax errors but thats it |
| 14:00.24 | Ackis | Xinhuan: wow I think I'm on the last step: 1) The Might of Kalimdor (*** Awards: Scepter of the Shifting Sands ***) |
| 14:01.00 | Ackis | nope |
| 14:01.07 | Ackis | I'm at the part where you go to moonglade and kill that dude |
| 14:01.18 | BlackFrog| | So basically, to test my addon after every change is to restart WOW? |
| 14:01.20 | Arrowmaster | go solo him |
| 14:01.39 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: do you know the quest name? |
| 14:01.48 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 14:01.49 | zenzio | BlackFrog|: you can just reload the UI |
| 14:01.59 | Xinhuan | i don't know if u can solo him at 80 |
| 14:02.07 | BlackFrog| | ok, wtth /reloadui? |
| 14:02.09 | Ackis | Xinhuan: duo? |
| 14:02.11 | Xinhuan | but that would be dependant by what class u are |
| 14:02.24 | Ackis | priest/DK |
| 14:02.29 | Ackis | or priest/rogue |
| 14:02.31 | Ackis | or priest/mage |
| 14:02.34 | zenzio | BlackFrog|: think /reload or /reloadui |
| 14:02.35 | Xinhuan | i can't tell you, i've never done it except at lvl 60 during the real thing, and i did it twice with a raid group of 120 people |
| 14:02.41 | Ackis | my fiancee has a few level 80s :P |
| 14:02.43 | Xinhuan | (3 groups) |
| 14:03.21 | Xinhuan | it is that difficult - at lvl 60 lol |
| 14:03.23 | Ackis | When returning the fragments to Remulos, he offers N [60R] The Nightmare Manifests. Accepting this quest will summon Combat Eranikus, Tyrant of the Dream who enters Nighthaven and brings a host of Shades. Players must defend Keeper Remulos from the Shades and not kill Eranikus until Alliance Tyrande can arrive and redeem Neutral Eranikus. |
| 14:03.34 | Xinhuan | there's like 8 spawn points |
| 14:03.37 | Ackis | I was too newbish at level 60 |
| 14:03.43 | Xinhuan | and each spawn point needed at least 10 ppl |
| 14:04.03 | Xinhuan | and those adds are pretty trigger happy on aoe shadowbolts |
| 14:04.05 | DWSR | Is there a gitrc? |
| 14:04.24 | Ackis | do you remember if the shards get turned in after acquiring them? |
| 14:04.29 | Ackis | blue/red/green? |
| 14:04.35 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: just yell in trade chat that you are going to summon eranikus at a certain time and anybody thats never seen the fight and wants to can come help |
| 14:04.54 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: they'd grief me :P |
| 14:05.20 | foxlit | Ackis: yes |
| 14:05.29 | foxlit | You carry the items to anachronos. |
| 14:06.24 | Xinhuan | you turn them in one by one |
| 14:06.29 | Xinhuan | as the conclusions of each of the 3 chains |
| 14:06.42 | BlackFrog| | thanks zenzio |
| 14:06.47 | Xinhuan | and you get like some amount of gold for turning them in |
| 14:07.05 | Xinhuan | when all 3 are done, you get a new quest that gives you the scepter |
| 14:07.14 | Xinhuan | which you just complete there and then |
| 14:07.58 | BlackFrog| | Can I use interpreter/compiler from http://www.lua.org/ to check for syntax errors in my addon? |
| 14:08.20 | Arrowmaster | BlackFrog|: yes |
| 14:08.55 | BlackFrog| | thanks. I have lua installed so I am one step closer to creating my first addon |
| 14:09.54 | dafrito | BlackFrog|: It's going to be somewhat difficult to test your addon without WoW |
| 14:10.24 | BlackFrog| | I have wow installed also. I was asking earlier if it was possible to develop without it |
| 14:10.29 | dafrito | Since a lot of what you'll be doing would involve WoW-specific stuff |
| 14:10.36 | Computerpunk | not that much |
| 14:10.41 | alestane | Develop, yes. Test, not so much. |
| 14:11.28 | Legorol | also, you'd need an XML validator to verify your XML files without WoW |
| 14:11.47 | BlackFrog| | ok |
| 14:12.47 | dafrito | Another thing that's frustrating, is that lua doesn't understand toc files, so you have to figure out a way to import your required stuff |
| 14:13.09 | industrial | :map <f5> :!luac -p %<cr> |
| 14:13.11 | industrial | :) |
| 14:13.19 | mikma | !clusterfuck |
| 14:14.01 | Jamash | hmm, I wonder if it's worthwhile to get my alchemist exalted with zandalar to get the living action potion recipe |
| 14:14.34 | Jamash | anyone know if potions and such are usable in rated bgs? |
| 14:14.42 | dafrito | industrial: That's clever |
| 14:15.31 | dafrito | I ended up just writing the imports in my files, wrapped in a "if nil ~= require then ... end" block |
| 14:15.37 | alestane | So what is that actually for, industrial? |
| 14:15.51 | industrial | running luac -p against the current lua file in vim |
| 14:15.56 | industrial | dafrito: put it in .vim/after/ftplugin/lua.vim and it will only do it for lua files |
| 14:16.08 | industrial | I've got a line for that for most languages I work in, some for lint tools etc |
| 14:16.16 | alestane | Ah, vim. |
| 14:16.21 | dafrito | industrial: Yeah |
| 14:16.23 | Jamash | blah, vim |
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| 14:16.34 | industrial | vim vim vim! |
| 14:16.37 | dafrito | For my stuff, I just wrote a script that runs my test suite across all addons |
| 14:16.37 | industrial | marches |
| 14:16.45 | Jamash | used it for a while, gave it u |
| 14:16.50 | dafrito | So I rarely need to run an individual file |
| 14:17.22 | industrial | wonder if I can add that before save, hmmm, manual is probably better |
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| 14:18.30 | dafrito | I really should get used to running stuff from vim, I rarely do |
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| 14:18.39 | dafrito | I usually just ctrl-Z and run it, then fg back |
| 14:19.31 | dafrito | Or do some stuff in Terminator |
| 14:22.36 | Jamash | you have a test suite? |
| 14:22.46 | dafrito | Jamash: Yeah |
| 14:22.48 | Jamash | my test suite is "log in and dick around with my addon loaded" |
| 14:23.09 | dafrito | I got a library of various things, so I like runnin it |
| 14:23.12 | Computerpunk | inb4 skinning sargeras. |
| 14:23.24 | Jamash | there's almost nothing I can test without access to wow |
| 14:23.56 | dafrito | Yeah, it's not a full-fledged test suite by any means |
| 14:24.02 | dafrito | I played with WoWbench for a bit, then with my own stubs |
| 14:25.02 | BlackFrog| | industrial: thanks for mentioning lua.vim, I justdownloaded it |
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| 14:28.27 | Adys | nudave and Dark_Elf sitting in a tree.. |
| 14:28.31 | Adys | next thing you know there's a nude elf in a dark cave.. |
| 14:28.33 | Adys | leaves |
| 14:28.55 | nudave | hey HEY |
| 14:29.20 | nudave | I prefer dwarves. |
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| 14:29.32 | Adys | speaking of dwarves |
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| 14:31.04 | Dark_Elf | bah |
| 14:31.57 | Kraps | Fisker |
| 14:36.09 | Fisker | Krapser |
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| 14:36.41 | Shirik | Cide: hi |
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| 14:45.12 | Thunder_Child | what patch are we on? |
| 14:45.43 | |Jelly| | we're on the patch where DW DK tanks shouldn't be around and yet I'm healing one right now |
| 14:45.49 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:46.05 | Shirik | pets |Jelly| |
| 14:46.13 | Kraps | hmm |
| 14:46.31 | |Jelly| | Chitocano on Quel'Thalas |
| 14:46.58 | |Jelly| | scary thing is, he's blood |
| 14:46.59 | Shirik | why exactly do you have to be 21 before you can enroll in a 401(k)? |
| 14:47.03 | |Jelly| | so he obviously read the patch notes |
| 14:47.10 | Kraps | i guess the end of moh sets up a sequel? |
| 14:47.34 | Seerah | |Jelly|: maybe he didn't... ;) |
| 14:47.43 | |Jelly| | good call |
| 14:47.53 | Cide | Shirik: how are you_ |
| 14:47.55 | Cide | ? |
| 14:47.58 | Shirik | good good |
| 14:51.02 | nudave | patch notes: A dedicated tanking tree (Blood) has been implemented. |
| 14:51.40 | nudave | but using DW. why oh why. |
| 14:51.40 | Seerah | my point was that maybe he was dual-wielding with blood spec before the patch. ;) |
| 14:51.47 | alestane | http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif |
| 14:52.00 | cbreak_work | I am a mage. I want a dedicated tanking tree too. |
| 14:52.30 | |Jelly| | ok ... time for medal of honor |
| 14:52.33 | nudave | I'm finally getting the urge to create a DK |
| 14:53.45 | Seerah | I went questing last night with mine and thought "wow! I'm killing these guys really fast!" Then I realized they had <4000hp |
| 14:54.19 | cbreak_work | I oneshot things with 10k hp :/ |
| 14:55.11 | Computerpunk | cbreak, Aimed Shot. |
| 14:55.28 | Computerpunk | problem!??!?! |
| 14:55.42 | cbreak_work | arcane blast |
| 14:56.02 | Computerpunk | INSTANT AIMED SHOT. |
| 14:56.04 | Computerpunk | Problem!?!??!?! |
| 14:56.26 | cbreak_work | presence of mind. |
| 14:56.35 | Seerah | <3 20k crits with AB |
| 14:57.15 | Computerpunk | jnwhiteh, yo, brah, you the one who wrote WoWLua? |
| 14:57.26 | cbreak_work | Seerah: highest I got was 36k vs boss dummy |
| 14:57.43 | Adys | Alright |
| 14:57.51 | Adys | who's gonna do this for me |
| 14:57.59 | Seerah | heh |
| 14:58.01 | nudave | is frost still the way to go for DPS dk? |
| 14:58.16 | Adys | an addon that plays "Through the fire and flames" very loud when a player gets hit by sartharion's wall |
| 15:00.17 | alestane | |Jelly|: You can still take the first frost DW talent if you spec blood. |
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| 15:01.32 | mikma | computerpunk: he is |
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| 15:03.50 | amro | Adys: on it |
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| 15:06.29 | Adys | mailing list: |
| 15:06.30 | Adys | "I wrote the python script below using word editor." |
| 15:06.31 | Adys | HELP |
| 15:06.33 | Adys | A GUN, SOMEONE |
| 15:08.10 | cairenn | hands Adys a potato-cannon |
| 15:08.23 | Adys | uses it and shoots everything in sight |
| 15:10.13 | amro | 1. How can I run it as a python script? It seems to be opened as a word document! |
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| 15:15.13 | Sixen | Change what it uses to run the file? ;\ |
| 15:15.17 | Sixen | Right-click -> Open With |
| 15:16.27 | Kraps | man how does day9 talk 45-60 minutes about sc2 every day? |
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| 15:26.38 | Sixen | lol kraps |
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| 15:31.51 | jnwhiteh | Computerpunk: yes? |
| 15:32.29 | Computerpunk | jnwhiteh, ok, so. Interactive interpreter: WowLua.lua:559 entry = nil |
| 15:32.54 | jnwhiteh | when does this happen? |
| 15:33.36 | Computerpunk | I get it when I have some text written. I press X. And window pops up. I press yes, main window stays, error thrown. |
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| 15:35.34 | jnwhiteh | logging in. |
| 15:36.07 | jnwhiteh | Curse dragging for anyone else? |
| 15:36.26 | Xtek | Curse.com? |
| 15:36.41 | jnwhiteh | yep. |
| 15:36.43 | Xtek | No. |
| 15:36.46 | jnwhiteh | Computerpunk: I cannot reproduce this issue. |
| 15:37.36 | Computerpunk | want me to put a debug trace somewhere? |
| 15:37.40 | Computerpunk | and give you some values? |
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| 15:38.51 | jnwhiteh | I need a stack traceback, yes. |
| 15:38.58 | jnwhiteh | because I have no idea what that error means =) |
| 15:39.08 | Computerpunk | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141639 |
| 15:39.41 | jnwhiteh | Computerpunk: then this is NOT happening when you 'have some text written' |
| 15:39.56 | Computerpunk | Want screenshots? |
| 15:39.57 | Computerpunk | -_- |
| 15:40.03 | jnwhiteh | no, I just want good information =) |
| 15:40.08 | Computerpunk | I told you what I did. |
| 15:40.08 | jnwhiteh | you're navigating away from an unsaved page |
| 15:40.09 | Computerpunk | That's all. |
| 15:40.18 | jnwhiteh | What does 'I press X' means |
| 15:40.19 | Computerpunk | I said I clicked the X. |
| 15:40.22 | jnwhiteh | to me that means you pressed the 'X' key |
| 15:40.23 | Computerpunk | Closing window. |
| 15:40.24 | Computerpunk | With txt. |
| 15:40.26 | jnwhiteh | ah, see you didn't say that |
| 15:40.28 | Computerpunk | Q_Q |
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| 15:40.34 | Computerpunk | My bad. |
| 15:40.35 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 15:40.35 | Fisker | i just farted |
| 15:40.53 | Computerpunk | ^good info. |
| 15:41.04 | Fisker | np |
| 15:41.07 | Seerah | Computerpunk: why is your WowLua.lua file in a folder named Interactive Interpreter? |
| 15:41.12 | kenthree | hey guys, since the patch i'm not seeing ERR_AUCTION_SOLD_S in chat nor does it trigger, any idea? |
| 15:41.18 | jnwhiteh | Seerah: yes, I'm confused about htat =) |
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| 15:41.40 | Computerpunk | Seerah, I got no idea. |
| 15:41.47 | Computerpunk | I installed through Curse Client v4. |
| 15:41.54 | Seerah | why don't you delete that and download the version from wowinterface, then? |
| 15:42.04 | Computerpunk | Well... |
| 15:42.05 | Computerpunk | Mkay. |
| 15:42.10 | Computerpunk | I rarely use WoWI |
| 15:42.20 | Seerah | and what's vwowi:revision? |
| 15:42.25 | Seerah | where did you get wowlua from? |
| 15:42.34 | Computerpunk | Curse.com |
| 15:42.44 | Computerpunk | r40 |
| 15:42.48 | Seerah | the folder at Curse should also be named WowLua |
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| 15:43.16 | Computerpunk | I just reinstalled. |
| 15:43.21 | Computerpunk | I'll check it out when I restart wow. |
| 15:43.53 | jnwhiteh | its a bug |
| 15:43.59 | jnwhiteh | I'm getting it fixed |
| 15:44.05 | Computerpunk | ;D |
| 15:44.07 | jnwhiteh | (ish) |
| 15:44.08 | Computerpunk | Glad I could help. |
| 15:44.14 | jnwhiteh | I just needed a proper report in order to fix it =) |
| 15:44.21 | Computerpunk | >_< |
| 15:44.27 | Computerpunk | I PRESSED X! |
| 15:44.28 | Computerpunk | xD |
| 15:44.35 | Ackis | makes a comment about TomTom being broken. |
| 15:44.35 | Nechckn | kenthree A lot of folks have mentioned that - either check the CS forum to see if it is known, or report it. |
| 15:44.37 | Ackis | runs and hides. |
| 15:44.38 | Computerpunk | In fact, I said it wrong, I should've said clicked X. |
| 15:44.38 | jnwhiteh | you clicked the x in the top rigth hand corner |
| 15:44.43 | jnwhiteh | 'I pressed x' means you pressed the x key =) |
| 15:44.51 | Computerpunk | yeah. |
| 15:44.54 | Computerpunk | my badz |
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| 15:45.30 | Computerpunk | Anyone here ever had a broken rib? |
| 15:45.49 | Nechckn | points to Adam. God messed him up. |
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| 15:46.22 | Computerpunk | lol |
| 15:46.51 | Hirsute | Nechckn: I award you 1 internetz |
| 15:47.18 | Nechckn | bows and graciously accepts 1 such internetz. |
| 15:47.30 | Jamash | I REQUIRE A LIST OF JP PRICES |
| 15:47.32 | kenthree | thanks Nechckn... the whole point of my addon was playing a sound from that event :P |
| 15:47.36 | Computerpunk | How do you take it? |
| 15:47.41 | Computerpunk | It's behind proxies. |
| 15:47.41 | Computerpunk | -_- |
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| 15:50.46 | alestane | Here's a random: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31663512&l=519dc9719f&id=1422991742 |
| 15:53.57 | jnwhiteh | Computerpunk: updated versions released on both Curse and WoWwI |
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| 15:56.07 | amro | http://xkcd.com/806/ |
| 15:56.36 | Computerpunk | ty jnwhiteh. |
| 15:56.46 | jnwhiteh | it may be a bit of a hack fix |
| 15:56.48 | jnwhiteh | but it shouldn't error |
| 15:56.49 | jnwhiteh | in theory =) |
| 15:57.42 | Jamash | shibboleet! |
| 15:58.03 | Jamash | an obvious reference to https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Shibboleth |
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| 15:58.14 | angayelle | hai people |
| 15:58.18 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 15:58.31 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 15:58.32 | cogwheel | why secure? |
| 15:58.36 | Fisker | wanna sex? |
| 15:58.49 | cogwheel | nah |
| 15:58.52 | Fisker | fail |
| 15:59.13 | angayelle | can someone enlighten me about the sign ";" in lua ? useless or ? i saw that sometimes and sometimes not |
| 15:59.19 | angayelle | can't find any ingo |
| 15:59.21 | angayelle | info |
| 15:59.23 | cogwheel | it's essentially white space |
| 15:59.30 | cogwheel | you have the option of using it at the end of statements |
| 15:59.45 | cogwheel | but it's not really necessary and most idomatic lua doesn't use it |
| 15:59.54 | angayelle | ok thenks |
| 16:00.19 | jnwhiteh | I cannot load my.curse.com/my |
| 16:00.19 | Fisker | makes kd3 family |
| 16:00.22 | jnwhiteh | blegh. |
| 16:00.30 | kenthree |  attempt to index global 'this' (a nil value) <- on this:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM"); is this a one time loading error or should I worry about it? |
| 16:01.08 | Computerpunk | kenthree, rename this to self |
| 16:01.09 | Computerpunk | iirc. |
| 16:01.27 | angayelle | this have been the major source of problem on cata addons |
| 16:01.36 | angayelle | this is not used anymore |
| 16:01.40 | kenthree | okay thanks |
| 16:01.41 | angayelle | "this" |
| 16:02.09 | angayelle | elseif (id4 ?= 61205) and (id5 ?= 61205) and (id6 ?= 61205) and (ffbglyph == true) and (combutalent == true) |
| 16:02.09 | angayelle | then ffbglyph = false |
| 16:02.09 | angayelle | anyone see something wrong in this, got error but can't find it |
| 16:02.11 | kenthree | does blizzard have some sort of centralized place with changes or info on the api |
| 16:02.16 | Jamash | secure because I have https everywhere from the eff |
| 16:02.25 | kd3 | no? blizz doesn't document the API. we do |
| 16:02.28 | Jamash | use pastey for multiline pastes pls |
| 16:02.44 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.0.1/API_changes |
| 16:02.46 | Jamash | blizzard's documentation consists entirely of an example addon that doesn't work anymore |
| 16:02.47 | jnwhiteh | ?= isn't valid in Lua |
| 16:02.47 | angayelle | sorry |
| 16:02.48 | jnwhiteh | also |
| 16:02.48 | Computerpunk | ?=? |
| 16:02.53 | Computerpunk | ~= |
| 16:02.54 | Computerpunk | pl0x |
| 16:03.02 | Computerpunk | we 4give, yes. |
| 16:03.04 | Computerpunk | we 4get, yes. |
| 16:03.06 | Computerpunk | we 4chan, HELL YEA |
| 16:03.11 | Jamash | and an addon toolkit that also doesn't work anymore |
| 16:03.17 | Jamash | go blizzard |
| 16:03.19 | angayelle | ok i understand on my mac i didn't found the little one |
| 16:03.23 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: uhh |
| 16:03.28 | jnwhiteh | Blizzard released the art/data directories. |
| 16:03.32 | jnwhiteh | so indeed, 'go blizzard' |
| 16:03.33 | Jamash | this is true |
| 16:03.36 | jnwhiteh | they break something, and provide a solution |
| 16:03.38 | jnwhiteh | HOW DARE THEY? |
| 16:03.54 | Jamash | they could have allowed my addon kit on wowi, that's how |
| 16:04.11 | jnwhiteh | blame the lawyers imo =) |
| 16:04.26 | Jamash | https://code.google.com/p/jamash/ |
| 16:05.54 | kenthree | Global variables this, event, arg1, ..., are no longer available. heh there goes my copy/paste code |
| 16:06.05 | Seerah | Jamash: there were several things in the art files that others found with the model viewer(?) and were in Blizzard's .zip that your toolkit didnt' extract :( |
| 16:06.19 | Jamash | orly? |
| 16:06.22 | Jamash | do tell |
| 16:06.30 | Jamash | I'd be happy to improve it |
| 16:06.33 | Seerah | In Interface\PlayerActionBarAlt |
| 16:06.39 | Jamash | interesting |
| 16:06.41 | Seerah | I know that one for sure. |
| 16:06.43 | Jamash | I'll take a look |
| 16:07.13 | Jamash | the new layout is a bit confusing |
| 16:07.42 | Seerah | there's some sweet actionbar graphics in there, but your toolkit only extracted one background (split into 3, as it should be) |
| 16:07.57 | Jamash | I shall see |
| 16:08.06 | Jamash | oh yeah have to log out first :P |
| 16:08.25 | Seerah | for reference, there should be 28 items in that folder instead of 3 :) |
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| 16:08.36 | Jamash | are they all .blp files? |
| 16:08.40 | Seerah | yes |
| 16:08.51 | Seerah | if you download that .zip you can compare :) |
| 16:08.55 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, save me from the deluge! |
| 16:08.59 | Jamash | ok |
| 16:09.04 | Jamash | how big is the zip? |
| 16:09.05 | Lunessa | station. |
| 16:09.21 | Lunessa | shields Lopeppeppy heroically with his own body. |
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| 16:10.21 | Jamash | 355MB huh |
| 16:10.34 | jnwhiteh | Will someone PLEASE post on curse.com for me |
| 16:10.36 | jnwhiteh | on the Clique page |
| 16:10.36 | Seerah | yeah, took a few minutes to download |
| 16:10.45 | Seerah | jnwhiteh: ? |
| 16:10.46 | jnwhiteh | and say tha tI am unable to get to Curse, and therefore unable to respond to any help requests right now |
| 16:10.46 | Jamash | sure, what do you need jnwhiteh? |
| 16:10.48 | Jamash | ok |
| 16:10.48 | jnwhiteh | I can get to WowI just fine. |
| 16:10.54 | jnwhiteh | direct them there, and I can help them immediately |
| 16:11.01 | Seerah | got it |
| 16:11.02 | jnwhiteh | or maybe it started working. |
| 16:11.03 | Fisker | what about i just unban you jnwhiteh ? |
| 16:11.05 | jnwhiteh | blegh. |
| 16:11.14 | jnwhiteh | reloading to see. |
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| 16:11.20 | Kazie | Anyone know if SharedMedia is up to date with 4.0.1? |
| 16:11.35 | jnwhiteh | nope, its still having issues loading that page |
| 16:11.39 | jnwhiteh | so if someone could comment, I'd appreciate. |
| 16:12.06 | jnwhiteh | I'll use a proxy if I can. |
| 16:12.11 | jnwhiteh | had the SAME issue with wowi last night |
| 16:12.12 | jnwhiteh | so bizarre |
| 16:12.29 | Seerah | Kazie: the .toc isn't upped, but it works perfectly fine |
| 16:12.44 | Jamash | k I posted |
| 16:12.46 | Kazie | Okay, so i just wrote what? .. 40000 in the .toc file? |
| 16:12.49 | Kazie | write* |
| 16:13.05 | Jamash | well now that's interesting, my ui extractor just errored out |
| 16:13.42 | Jamash | could not extract \Interface\GLUES\LOGIN\Glues-CheckBox-Highlight.blp |
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| 16:14.50 | Seerah | darn you, Jamash, I said that I would do it :p |
| 16:15.02 | Jamash | he |
| 16:15.05 | Jamash | heh |
| 16:15.53 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Sounds like a DNS problem. |
| 16:16.10 | Jamash | it's bad when your own program prints an error you've never heard of |
| 16:16.23 | Jamash | error #1392 |
| 16:17.25 | Seerah | :) |
| 16:18.09 | Kraps | "Figure that, Artosis casts an Idra game and it's a completely one-sided pummeling... Who'd have thought that?" the fuck? |
| 16:20.46 | nicoli_s | jnwhiteh:i can post on curse for you |
| 16:21.04 | Ackis | I can cast a curse on you jnwhiteh |
| 16:21.05 | jnwhiteh | two people already have, thanks =) |
| 16:21.11 | nicoli_s | mmk |
| 16:21.43 | Fisker | Ackis' jnwhiteh with a nicoli_s |
| 16:22.02 | jnwhiteh | I keep getting emails from Curse and when I go to the addon, the comment isn't there! |
| 16:22.23 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: are they legit comments? |
| 16:22.29 | amro | anyone here using pitbull4? |
| 16:22.29 | jnwhiteh | yes, found one |
| 16:22.31 | jnwhiteh | its on the second page |
| 16:22.34 | jnwhiteh | fail system =/ |
| 16:23.42 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:23.54 | Shadowed | I don't think Curse even fixed the fact that you can't unsubscribe from comments on Curse.com |
| 16:24.19 | kenthree | so atm this http://www.wowwiki.com/Handling_events is all wrong, anyone with the patience to update? |
| 16:24.27 | Lopeppeppy | ~wowprogramming |
| 16:24.27 | purl | methinks wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire (jnwhiteh) and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 16:24.39 | Lopeppeppy | If you want it updated, update it yourself, kenthree. It's a wiki. :) |
| 16:24.52 | kenthree | i'm a consumer atm >< |
| 16:24.55 | nicoli_s | jnwhiteh:curse.com is getting rewrittn if it makes you feel better :P |
| 16:25.03 | Shadowed | that's what they said last time :< |
| 16:25.04 | jnwhiteh | kenthree: what makes you think that is 'all wrong' |
| 16:25.10 | jnwhiteh | I don't see any issues on that wiki page, as of righ tnow. |
| 16:25.14 | jnwhiteh | so please elaborate |
| 16:25.27 | jnwhiteh | The first two seconds seem 100% correct to me. |
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| 16:27.11 | cogwheel | pokes kenthree |
| 16:27.26 | kenthree | ugh |
| 16:27.34 | kenthree | I think I read one of the changes wrong |
| 16:27.38 | Kazie | How come all my textures and stuff is not shown in SharedMedia? .. :o |
| 16:27.42 | jnwhiteh | sounds likely =) |
| 16:28.52 | angayelle | major glyphs slots in 4.0.1 respond to GetGlyphSocketInfo(4) to (6) ? |
| 16:29.19 | jnwhiteh | there are constants |
| 16:29.24 | jnwhiteh | search for them and use them =) |
| 16:30.09 | nicoli_s | magic numbers > constants |
| 16:30.21 | jnwhiteh | but I don' tsee them at the moment |
| 16:30.26 | jnwhiteh | so they might not have gone live. |
| 16:30.27 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 16:30.54 | jnwhiteh | angayelle: http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/cat/FrameXML/Constants.lua#L154 |
| 16:31.06 | jnwhiteh | Major are 1 4 and 6 |
| 16:31.11 | jnwhiteh | so you should use the constants =) |
| 16:32.00 | angayelle | damn thanks jnwhiteh |
| 16:33.01 | Ackis | zhTW is trad chinese? |
| 16:34.09 | Kraps | eh? which patch are they going to use? http://www.mlgpro.com/content/page/314829/MLG-D-C-World-of-Warcraft-Event-Preview |
| 16:34.29 | Kraps | oh 4.0 |
| 16:35.01 | Kraps | great, prepare for extremely bizarre games |
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| 16:36.46 | angayelle | looks like a reloadui don't fire the ADDON_LOADED event, right ? |
| 16:37.08 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/14870033788/wowinterface-gm-said-to-wait-for-a-cm/ |
| 16:37.48 | alestane | A /reloadui should fire ADDON_LOADED unless they've changed something. |
| 16:38.02 | angayelle | gah wtf in my code then |
| 16:38.44 | angayelle | got a if (event == "GLYPH_ADDED") or (event == "GLYPH_REMOVED") or (event == "ADDON_LOADED") then but it doesn't execute the code below upon loading |
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| 16:41.39 | alestane | Are you registering the frame for "ADDON_LOADED"? |
| 16:41.53 | angayelle | in my xml ? |
| 16:42.12 | alestane | Wherever it is that you set the frame up and register it for events. |
| 16:42.40 | Lunessa | Mmmm.. steam-computers: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11530905 |
| 16:43.50 | angayelle | i have a <OnEvent> Combustion_OnEvent(self, event, ...); </OnEvent> in my xml and i watch the ADDON_LOADED within the function Combustion_OnEvent(self, event, ...) |
| 16:44.00 | angayelle | in my lua |
| 16:44.27 | Kraps | Lava Burst - Now has a 100 yard range. (Old: 30 yard range.) WHOA |
| 16:44.44 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: ?> |
| 16:44.50 | jnwhiteh | that's insane! |
| 16:45.02 | nevcairiel | that seems like a error |
| 16:45.09 | angayelle | you're kidding kraps |
| 16:45.21 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/blog=171065 |
| 16:45.40 | nevcairiel | even bibi didnt mention it |
| 16:45.46 | nevcairiel | its probably an error |
| 16:46.15 | angayelle | i hope so |
| 16:46.39 | kenthree | newb here wading through the lua docs, would arg[1] etc be the correct substitute to the old blizz arg1? |
| 16:46.59 | alestane | angayelle, your frame won't receive the "ADDON_LOADED" event at all unless at some point you call frame:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED") |
| 16:47.01 | Kraps | also http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=94716 http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=94717 |
| 16:47.02 | alestane | No, kenthree. |
| 16:47.33 | alestane | Arg is only declared within the stand-alone Lua interpreter, not the language specification itself. |
| 16:47.34 | angayelle | oh yeah sorry, yes i have frame:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED") in my Onload section |
| 16:47.49 | mikma | bibi is a bobo |
| 16:47.54 | mikma | dj bobo. |
| 16:48.02 | Kazie | Anyone who might know why my SharedMedia does not show in KgPanels while it does show in Pitbull? |
| 16:48.34 | DWSR | hahaha |
| 16:48.36 | alestane | Then I might try putting a [[print(event, ...)]]] or something of the kind in the event response section before the if. |
| 16:48.41 | DWSR | I lol |
| 16:48.54 | DWSR | Prophet Velen doesn't have a title, while all the other Alliance leaders do. |
| 16:48.57 | alestane | This way you can confirm whether you're getting the event at all. |
| 16:49.11 | angayelle | k will try that thanks |
| 16:50.32 | Kraps | DWSR: "guy who crashes an inter-dimensional spaceship" isnt very flattering |
| 16:50.42 | DWSR | rofl |
| 16:51.32 | industrial | Apparently my wow expires today and I'm broke for another week. fuck. |
| 16:51.35 | DWSR | Is there a global table for the RGB values of Rage, Mana, etc. |
| 16:52.02 | industrial | no more 4.0.1 patches to my addons from me :P |
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| 16:53.18 | DWSR | ~seen kagaro |
| 16:53.32 | purl | kagaro is currently on #wowace (1d 20h 43m 2s). Has said a total of 68 messages. Is idling for 14h 1m 12s, last said: '2 enraged shamblers owned me'. |
| 16:53.45 | alestane | "'Stop and ask for directions,' I told him. 'No,' he says, 'it's interdimensional. What can go wrong?'" |
| 16:54.06 | DWSR | "Let's go this way really really fast. If something gets in our way, shoot it!" |
| 16:54.48 | dafrito | DWSR: PowerBarColor, I believe |
| 16:55.38 | angayelle | come on industrial, i'm sure you came patch without an account, just test it in your mind |
| 16:55.43 | angayelle | can* |
| 16:57.05 | jnwhiteh | lulz PerfectRaid is fixed. |
| 16:57.09 | industrial | Yes, but since I still make addons for my own enjoyment and then share them (always believed this) there is no enjoyment to have in the upcoming week for me. |
| 16:57.11 | jnwhiteh | hack-hackity-hack-hack-hack |
| 16:57.35 | Cide | so it's now UnperfectRaid? |
| 16:57.40 | industrial | har har |
| 16:57.45 | Cide | or is that Imperfect maybe |
| 16:57.58 | industrial | Unperfect is better, since it's imperfect |
| 16:58.19 | Cide | clearly that was what I was thinking of |
| 16:58.22 | ckknight | Me fail english? that's unpossible! |
| 16:58.45 | industrial | hi ck o/ |
| 16:58.54 | Cide | I'm swedish so I have infinite-offs |
| 16:59.01 | ckknight | Trela: ping |
| 16:59.10 | Cide | ckknight: pong |
| 16:59.12 | Cide | oh |
| 16:59.19 | ckknight | ...? |
| 16:59.27 | Cide | I had a Fisker moment |
| 16:59.41 | industrial | those are painful :( |
| 17:00.39 | Napoleone | blizzard just effed my professions without me knowing lol |
| 17:00.50 | Cide | so why does some of my sound work in linux but not all? |
| 17:00.57 | industrial | Quick, someone, save me from browsing all of wimp.com out of boredom! Hand me a MMO to play that doesn't have a store! |
| 17:01.13 | Napoleone | what about wow? |
| 17:01.19 | Napoleone | doesnt have a gameaffecting store |
| 17:01.21 | angayelle | wtf i tried adding a text to show upon ADDON_LOADED event and it fires 10 times |
| 17:01.23 | industrial | read up :P |
| 17:01.33 | angayelle | so 10 events ? |
| 17:01.50 | industrial | check the arguments angayelle, it's 10 addons loading probably |
| 17:01.57 | angayelle | oooooh |
| 17:02.05 | industrial | arg1 is the name, so you can check against that :) |
| 17:02.06 | angayelle | dumb me |
| 17:02.10 | Arrowmaster | Cide: pulseaudio or alsa? |
| 17:02.18 | Cide | I don't know |
| 17:02.22 | Cide | how do I check? |
| 17:02.28 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 17:02.33 | Arrowmaster | distro? |
| 17:02.34 | industrial | Cide: distro? |
| 17:02.38 | Cide | fedora |
| 17:02.52 | Arrowmaster | kd3: fedora use pulse by default or alsa? |
| 17:02.54 | Cide | I set the proper audio device to the master channel for all types |
| 17:02.59 | kd3 | pulse |
| 17:03.15 | Arrowmaster | then i have no clue, i dont touch pulse |
| 17:03.24 | Cide | I can choose backend between gstreamer and xine whatever that means |
| 17:04.04 | Cide | and the sound works fine when I test it it in system settings |
| 17:04.12 | Cide | but not in spotify or, say, minecraft |
| 17:04.33 | Cide | should I change to alsa? |
| 17:04.54 | dafrito | Cide: have you asked in #fedora? |
| 17:05.00 | Cide | no |
| 17:05.07 | Cide | this channel is my bitch |
| 17:05.09 | Cide | :) |
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| 17:05.20 | dafrito | They're pretty good in there at figuring that stuff out |
| 17:05.43 | Cide | I'm more comfortable displaying myself as a total noob in here where I have MASSIVE AUTHORITY |
| 17:05.51 | Cide | but I'll consider doing that |
| 17:06.01 | dafrito | I use fedora as well, so I have had my own noob experiences ;) |
| 17:07.17 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: what do you put in your annotated tag messages? |
| 17:07.27 | nevcairiel | "Tagging as X" |
| 17:07.28 | nevcairiel | usually |
| 17:07.37 | jnwhiteh | makes sense. |
| 17:07.43 | nevcairiel | they are not really used much anywhere |
| 17:07.45 | industrial | Cide: I can only vouch for Ubuntu and advise that to anyone new \o/ |
| 17:08.10 | adyn | Cide: I'm unsure of those games but you might want to make sure they are sending the sound to the correct device. |
| 17:08.12 | jnwhiteh | lol perfectraid |
| 17:08.39 | angayelle | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.45 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 17:08.49 | angayelle | gah |
| 17:08.55 | jnwhiteh | if event == "ADDONLOADED" and ... == "CombustionHelper" then |
| 17:08.57 | Cide | adyn: spotify is not a game |
| 17:09.14 | adyn | Cide: obviously I'm unfamiliar with it as well :) |
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| 17:09.28 | angayelle | direct with the ... ? |
| 17:09.45 | Arrowmaster | well it depends on how your function is setup |
| 17:09.50 | angayelle | doesn't it lack a _ int he event ? |
| 17:11.17 | angayelle | the use of ... depends of my : frame:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED") ? |
| 17:11.43 | Arrowmaster | no it spends on how your function for the OnEvent was created |
| 17:11.50 | Arrowmaster | s/spends/depends/ |
| 17:11.58 | Cide | hey |
| 17:12.03 | Cide | killing pulseaudio worked |
| 17:12.03 | alestane | If you declare your event function with the signature "(self, event, ...)" then the contents of ... will vary depending on what event you get. |
| 17:12.12 | Cide | I'm officially my own master |
| 17:12.40 | Arrowmaster | Cide: no you just discovered the first tip for dealing with pulseaudio, all problems go away when you stop using pulseaudio |
| 17:12.43 | angayelle | this is the syntax i used yes |
| 17:12.49 | Cide | Arrowmaster: oh, but I restarted it |
| 17:13.10 | alestane | You can, if you want, declare your event function as "(self, event, arg1, arg2, arg3)" if you want, but that doesn't respond well if you want to add more args later to deal with events you originally didn't plan on. |
| 17:13.53 | Lopeppeppy | No one expects the Spanish Inquisitin |
| 17:14.49 | alestane | If you want to be very clear you can write it as 'if event == "ADDON_LOADED" then local addonName = ...; if addonName == "CombustionHelper" then --[[initaddon]] end end'. |
| 17:15.09 | alestane | Nobody expects the Spinach Inquisition either. |
| 17:15.17 | dafrito | angayelle: You may want to paste your code somewhere for us to look at |
| 17:15.29 | angayelle | will do that |
| 17:15.35 | Jamash | oho, there's a newer version of stormlib |
| 17:16.43 | DWSR | stormlib? |
| 17:17.14 | kd3 | a reimplemented version of blizz's storm.dll, used for pulling crap out of mpqs and lots of other goodies |
| 17:18.00 | foxlit | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/10/15/1411228/emStarCraftem-AI-Competition-Results?from=rss |
| 17:18.59 | angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141644-34ii there |
| 17:19.38 | angayelle | this is just a part of the code, don't mind the variables |
| 17:19.50 | angayelle | and helper function |
| 17:20.12 | dafrito | ADDONLOADED should be ADDON_LOADED |
| 17:20.37 | angayelle | awww and i saw it before but didn't correct it |
| 17:21.00 | dafrito | haha, well, you might not be out of the woods yet |
| 17:21.18 | angayelle | it works now |
| 17:21.35 | dafrito | awesome |
| 17:21.39 | Arrowmaster | angayelle: "CombustionHelper 2.2.3" should probably be "CombustionHelper" unless you really have the version number in the addon name (as in the name of the directory the addon is in) |
| 17:21.46 | angayelle | god if i gave you all 10 cents of euro each time you help, you'd be rich |
| 17:21.55 | angayelle | yeah renamed it too |
| 17:21.59 | Lopeppeppy | We aim to bankrupt you. |
| 17:22.20 | Lunessa | People are silly. "I need flash and java installed on my computer for work." -remote to machine- 7 browser tabs of YouTube comedy videos and flash games. Yeaaaah. That's work. |
| 17:22.25 | angayelle | i believe my second addon will go smoother |
| 17:26.12 | BlackFrog| | I am trying to do a quick fix to addons, and the first thing I get is attempt to index global 'this' (a nil value). Is there a quick fix? |
| 17:26.29 | dafrito | s/this/self |
| 17:26.51 | BlackFrog| | So replace everywhere I see this with self? |
| 17:27.02 | dafrito | yeah |
| 17:27.18 | dafrito | You might also ensure that the mod isn't using global arg1, arg2, etc. variables |
| 17:27.21 | kenthree | self:RegisterEvent("CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM"); is giving me attempt to index global 'self' (a nil value) |
| 17:27.30 | kenthree | am I a moron? |
| 17:27.34 | dafrito | kenthree: possibly |
| 17:27.56 | kenthree | it works in xml, but no in the .lua |
| 17:28.04 | Arrowmaster | kenthree: pastey the code |
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| 17:34.36 | Kraps | what causes http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141645 |
| 17:35.07 | Cide | an error |
| 17:35.23 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: I get that issue with the default UI |
| 17:35.31 | jnwhiteh | and it happens when a unit leaves your raid and the frame isn't hidden |
| 17:35.37 | Kraps | nonsense Cide |
| 17:35.47 | Arrowmaster | the intern error |
| 17:42.04 | Zhinjio | mmmm, yummy ssd goodness: http://bit.ly/9LOdt4 |
| 17:42.23 | Zhinjio | I think I drooled a little bit |
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| 17:48.06 | Sliker | So I guess TOL uses the.. male.. orc skeleton? |
| 17:48.13 | Sliker | that makes little sense |
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| 18:01.39 | Lunessa | I am disappointed that they didn't use my caption. :( http://cheezburger.com/View/4061760256 |
| 18:02.24 | Lopeppeppy | Awww, what was yours, Lunessa? |
| 18:02.29 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 18:02.54 | Lopeppeppy | That does seem a bit... succinct for a lolpic, dear. |
| 18:03.39 | nicoli_s | and it loses points for not being a kitty pic |
| 18:03.44 | Lunessa | Didn't need more. Brevity is the soul of wit. |
| 18:04.24 | Cide | the fuck |
| 18:04.57 | Cide | I added my key to ssh-agent and now ssh won't let me log in with key authentication, only password |
| 18:05.30 | Cide | how is that even possible |
| 18:05.50 | Lopeppeppy | does NOT say what Lunessa just made her think! |
| 18:06.06 | Lunessa | winks at Lopeppeppy. |
| 18:09.15 | Fisker | punch me |
| 18:09.50 | Lopeppeppy | kisses Fisker. |
| 18:10.14 | Fisker | >:O |
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| 18:11.02 | Fisker | i no longer trust you haste |
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| 18:23.43 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 18:23.49 | jnwhiteh | now I'm having ISP issues getting to WoW. |
| 18:23.51 | jnwhiteh | wtfzors. |
| 18:23.52 | jnwhiteh | time to VPN |
| 18:24.54 | jnwhiteh | back =) |
| 18:26.45 | Fisker | prepare to be banned jnwhiteh |
| 18:26.47 | Fisker | yarrrrgh |
| 18:28.06 | DWSR | YEAAAHHHHHH |
| 18:28.35 | Fisker | glasses = dork |
| 18:29.28 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 18:30.16 | BlackFrog| | Where did they moved access to non-combat pets? |
| 18:30.43 | Adys | BlackFrog|: spellbook |
| 18:31.46 | BlackFrog| | I just looked in the general section of the spellbook and I dont see it |
| 18:32.12 | durcyn | bottom of the frame is a gigantic button that says 'companions' |
| 18:32.22 | BlackFrog| | Thanks |
| 18:36.34 | Hirsute | Tabs on the bottom of the frame have thrown a few people off. |
| 18:37.29 | EvilPete | Yay shadowed! |
| 18:37.40 | Hirsute | Also: "Hai guyz. Ima be pissed on ur forums dat ur mod duznt do wut I want it to." Oh the joys of addons. |
| 18:38.45 | DWSR | EvilPete: ?\ |
| 18:39.48 | DWSR | How can I roll back a commit in git? |
| 18:40.07 | DWSR | i.e. I fucked something up, so I want to go back to the commit before HEAD. |
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| 18:40.18 | jnwhiteh | git reset HEAD^ |
| 18:40.22 | jnwhiteh | doesn't touch any files |
| 18:40.25 | jnwhiteh | just rolls back the last commit |
| 18:40.40 | DWSR | I want to restore my working directory to the last commit. |
| 18:40.41 | jnwhiteh | technically, it resets the repository to the state of the commit that was the parent of HEAD =) |
| 18:40.47 | jnwhiteh | then git reset --hard HEAD^ |
| 18:40.50 | jnwhiteh | but that WILL be destructive |
| 18:40.51 | DWSR | rofl |
| 18:40.55 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: How so? |
| 18:41.00 | DWSR | hard head. Sorry. |
| 18:41.12 | jnwhiteh | it physically resets everything to the state of the prior commit |
| 18:41.15 | jnwhiteh | any local changes will be lost |
| 18:41.24 | jnwhiteh | if that's what oyu want to do, then that's how you do it =) |
| 18:41.41 | DWSR | Oh, yeah. |
| 18:41.44 | Ackis | lol jnwhiteh some of your fukung's are wicked |
| 18:41.46 | Ackis | aka http://www.fukung.net/images/33096/ecdb6b9182b6800385e360052a1c15a5.jpg |
| 18:42.33 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: =) |
| 18:42.38 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Serious win |
| 18:42.41 | DWSR | Where did you find that? |
| 18:42.48 | Cide | he made it clearly |
| 18:42.50 | jnwhiteh | Fukung's random rss feed |
| 18:42.51 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 18:43.10 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/easiest-guy-to-scare-ever |
| 18:43.27 | Fisker | c |
| 18:43.28 | Fisker | i |
| 18:43.29 | Fisker | d |
| 18:43.29 | Fisker | e |
| 18:43.37 | DWSR | btw, jnwhiteh. If I commit now after I hard reset, will the next commit I do overwrite the previous one (the one which caused things to break horribly)? |
| 18:44.10 | jnwhiteh | if you're on the screwed up commit |
| 18:44.17 | jnwhiteh | i.e. its the last thing in git log |
| 18:44.33 | jnwhiteh | then git reset --hard HEAD^ will put you at the commit prior to that one, with all changes from that bad commit lost and all local changes lost. |
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| 18:45.33 | dafrito | jnwhiteh: It's not entirely lost, though. If he committed, even a reset --hard wouldn't remove it from the reflog |
| 18:45.33 | DWSR | ah, wonderful. Thanks muchly. |
| 18:45.45 | Cide | what if you do git reset ^HEAD; git reset --hard ^HEAD |
| 18:45.49 | Cide | does that skip back two revisions? |
| 18:46.00 | DWSR | I believe so, yes. |
| 18:46.05 | jnwhiteh | dafrito: oh, interesting |
| 18:46.09 | jnwhiteh | I didn't realize that =) |
| 18:46.15 | jnwhiteh | but the ref won't be pushed since its detached, correct? |
| 18:46.24 | jnwhiteh | Cide: you'd normally do git reset --hard HEAD^^ then |
| 18:46.25 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 18:46.28 | jnwhiteh | its clearer |
| 18:46.32 | jnwhiteh | so this guy |
| 18:46.33 | dafrito | Right, the reflog is just a log of changes to head |
| 18:46.33 | jnwhiteh | on Windows 7 |
| 18:46.37 | jnwhiteh | has a hidden Clique install |
| 18:46.42 | jnwhiteh | its not anywhere on his system |
| 18:46.49 | jnwhiteh | yet everytime he logs in, its there |
| 18:46.56 | jnwhiteh | and the SV gets written out after each time |
| 18:46.58 | Adys | jnwhiteh is getting --hard HEAD ^^ |
| 18:46.59 | jnwhiteh | Any suggestions? |
| 18:47.08 | jnwhiteh | i prefer my head to be hard, just saying. |
| 18:47.11 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 18:47.12 | kd3 | is it in the virtualstore? |
| 18:47.20 | jnwhiteh | i just committed a patch from a year ago |
| 18:47.27 | jnwhiteh | literally, oct-16-2009 |
| 18:47.30 | jnwhiteh | to perfectraid =) |
| 18:47.34 | Dagmar | Laaaaazy |
| 18:47.36 | Adys | thats not a year ago |
| 18:47.40 | jnwhiteh | close! |
| 18:47.45 | Adys | not even |
| 18:47.46 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: you kept it around just for this, eh? |
| 18:47.57 | amro | but then you ruined it by not waiting 1 more day |
| 18:48.09 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 18:48.11 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 18:48.16 | jnwhiteh | two patches that people have been wanting forever |
| 18:48.17 | Dagmar | It takes _dedication_ to be lazy about something for that long, and then actually go and do it. |
| 18:48.18 | jnwhiteh | plus I fixed it |
| 18:48.20 | jnwhiteh | by cheating, like whoa. |
| 18:48.26 | jnwhiteh | Dagmar: it was in my starred items, which I'm clearing out =) |
| 18:48.34 | jnwhiteh | so i don't convert my initialConfigFunc |
| 18:48.36 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: Go you. :) |
| 18:48.38 | Computerpunk | I AM BLACK. |
| 18:48.39 | Computerpunk | I mean back. |
| 18:48.39 | Computerpunk | :/ |
| 18:48.40 | jnwhiteh | I just force-create 40 frames out of combat |
| 18:48.46 | amro | you wish you were black |
| 18:48.49 | jnwhiteh | less code to change |
| 18:49.03 | nevcairiel | You just lost reputation |
| 18:49.06 | DWSR | God damn you github. |
| 18:49.11 | nevcairiel | cheater. |
| 18:49.16 | jnwhiteh | yeah i am |
| 18:49.49 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: I think you posted an update to blp2png a long time ago.. I'm just seeing my note of this. Any chance you could put it back up for me? =) |
| 18:49.58 | DWSR | To git@github.com:DWSR/oUF_Darkness.git |
| 18:49.58 | DWSR | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.58 | DWSR | error: failed to push some refs to 'git@github.com:DWSR/oUF_Darkness.git' |
| 18:49.58 | DWSR | To prevent you from losing history, non-fast-forward updates were rejected |
| 18:49.58 | DWSR | Merge the remote changes (e.g. 'git pull') before pushing again. See the |
| 18:49.59 | DWSR | 'Note about fast-forwards' section of 'git push --help' for details. |
| 18:50.03 | DWSR | What the fuck is this shit? |
| 18:50.11 | DWSR | And sorry, forgot about line terms. >.< |
| 18:50.23 | Arrowmaster | you changed the history |
| 18:50.28 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: had you already pushed the bad commit? |
| 18:50.30 | nevcairiel | or someone pushed :p |
| 18:50.30 | Arrowmaster | push with -f |
| 18:50.30 | jnwhiteh | you didn't say that =) |
| 18:50.34 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 18:50.38 | jnwhiteh | in that case, you need to force an update, since you're rewriting history |
| 18:50.45 | jnwhiteh | if you're the only one using the repo, this is possibly 'okay' |
| 18:50.49 | DWSR | Yeah, i am. |
| 18:50.52 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: lua? |
| 18:50.54 | DWSR | I'm 5 commits in. |
| 18:50.55 | jnwhiteh | but if not, better to just revert what the commit did in a new commit. |
| 18:50.56 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: yeah |
| 18:51.02 | jnwhiteh | I have the URl you put it at if that helps =) |
| 18:51.05 | jnwhiteh | it was only from January =) |
| 18:51.08 | Hirsute | Wow. People are actually throwing tantrums about the chat throttling in trade.... /facepalm |
| 18:51.14 | jnwhiteh | Hirsute: I hate it. |
| 18:51.20 | DWSR | Hirsute: It's a bit restrictive, but the theory is goo. |
| 18:51.21 | DWSR | good* |
| 18:51.23 | jnwhiteh | As you can see from this IRC conversation, I tend to say short things frequently. |
| 18:51.27 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: How do I force an update then? |
| 18:51.30 | jnwhiteh | I don't talk all that often, but i say about 3 things when I do. |
| 18:51.33 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: git push --force |
| 18:51.35 | Fisker | i usually say hey jnwhiteh |
| 18:51.39 | DWSR | duh |
| 18:51.39 | jnwhiteh | hey Fisker |
| 18:51.44 | jnwhiteh | even on your other servers? |
| 18:51.46 | Fisker | or something else including hey and the name of some user |
| 18:51.49 | DWSR | Note to self: Git does not involve voodoo magic. |
| 18:51.58 | Fisker | i actually only say "Hey <insert here>" |
| 18:52.16 | Hirsute | I have a hard time believing people hit that throttle if they're only using Trade for trade. |
| 18:52.49 | DWSR | I can hit that pretty easily. |
| 18:52.54 | Fisker | i can easily hit the throttle when i announce several times a second that i'm selling something |
| 18:53.25 | Hirsute | s/Trade for trade/Trade for trade and NOT spamming/ |
| 18:54.24 | Fisker | then you don't even have to include trade since spamming is by definition what will hit the throttle |
| 18:54.32 | Fisker | is confused |
| 18:55.42 | Hirsute | Fisker: spamming here = multiple lines of chat in quick succession. This happens most, in my observation when someone is posting trade related things entirely too frequently or when they're kibitzing, and not actually using the channel for trade. |
| 18:56.26 | Hirsute | My point being: If you're only using the channel for trade, I can't imagine you'd need to post multiple lines that quickly in trade chat, and thus, the throttle wouldn't be a problem. |
| 18:57.08 | Hirsute | If you're chatting about whatever in trade, I imagine you hit the throttle easily, but that isn't what the channel is for anyway, so *shrug* |
| 18:57.27 | DWSR | tbh, they should just remove Trade as a chat channel. |
| 18:57.29 | DWSR | And make an interface. |
| 18:57.49 | DWSR | It would be rather easy. |
| 18:58.02 | DWSR | WTB/WTS dropdown, item link/description. Price. |
| 18:58.49 | Dagmar | I'd be for that |
| 18:58.50 | foxlit | DWSR: It's called the auction house |
| 18:58.57 | DWSR | foxlit: Not as useful. |
| 18:59.05 | Dagmar | Whatever makes the shortbus kids shut the hell up |
| 18:59.11 | DWSR | Because with the interface, as soon as you log, you get removed from the listing. |
| 18:59.17 | foxlit | They'll just move to General or something |
| 18:59.29 | DWSR | General isn't all cities though |
| 18:59.35 | DWSR | And General has the fucking spam limiter on it too. |
| 18:59.35 | Dagmar | It wouldn't be global |
| 18:59.51 | Dagmar | Since we can't get Blizz to actually ban these little twits until they learn how to behave |
| 18:59.53 | Ackis | When reaching up to change the shower head setting from normal to massage, make sure the shower head isn't pointed directly at your man parts. It will hurt, and so will hitting your head on the side of the tub when you fall down. #LFMF |
| 18:59.54 | DWSR | btw: http://github.com/DWSR/oUF_Darkness/blob/master/darkness.lua <-- how can I change the font and border that the frames use? |
| 19:00.24 | Hirsute | Ooooh. I didn't realize they'd throt |
| 19:00.36 | Dagmar | Ackis: The gravity of that situation is directly proportional to the amount of water pressure your home has |
| 19:00.55 | Hirsute | *didn't realize they'd throttled any channel but Trade |
| 19:01.12 | DWSR | http://learnfrommyfail.failblog.org/2010/10/15/fail-story-lfmf-learn-from-sherwoods-fail/ |
| 19:01.17 | Dagmar | Hirsute: They're at least doing something formal about ASCII flooding, and that's a good thing |
| 19:01.23 | alestane | Sometime, Ackis, listen to "The Smallest Thing Known to Man" by Lorne Elliott. |
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| 19:02.59 | Hirsute | Dagmar: The only channels that I really got bothered about were Trade and the old, world-wide LFG. Both of which have a specific funtion that was being hindered by the abuse of the channel. If they'd make a world-wide General, I'd have no issues with people kibitzing. |
| 19:03.20 | DWSR | I'd love a world-wide general. |
| 19:03.30 | DWSR | btw: http://github.com/DWSR/oUF_Darkness/blob/master/darkness.lua <-- how can I change the font and border that the frames use? |
| 19:03.38 | DWSR | The changes I made broke the layout. |
| 19:04.13 | Fisker | haste is a jerk DWSR |
| 19:04.13 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
| 19:04.21 | Fisker | i wish he could batbot |
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| 19:11.17 | Dagmar | DWSR: A world-wide general would only work for me if Blizzard actively enforced ToU on it. As it stands it rapidly degenerates into a forum for the lowest common denominator to run their mouths off 24/7 |
| 19:11.31 | Dagmar | There's already a 4-chan. There's no need to put another one in the game. |
| 19:11.57 | DWSR | Yes there is. |
| 19:12.01 | Ackis | OMG ANAL [ITEM LINK] MURLOC |
| 19:12.03 | DWSR | No alt-tab requirement. |
| 19:12.20 | Hirsute | Dagmar: And if the lowest common denominators ran their mouths off 24/7 in a world-wide General, where it wasn't obscuring channels that have a stated purpose, I wouldn't care at all. |
| 19:12.23 | Dagmar | DWSR: IF the ESRB actually sees what goes on there, the game will lose it's rating |
| 19:12.45 | DWSR | ESRB doesn't rate interaction with other players online. |
| 19:12.49 | Hirsute | I can turn that channel off if I want to without losing anything at all. Turning Trade off, I lose access to legitimate trade spam. |
| 19:12.58 | Dagmar | Hirsute: You say this, but it didn't work before. The twits flooded every channel with whatever they pleased. |
| 19:13.24 | Dagmar | Hirsute: That's why they limited the scope of the channels to begin with... after it was clear they were going to all be abused. |
| 19:13.31 | Hirsute | Dagmar: What "before" are we talking about? |
| 19:13.45 | Dagmar | Hirsute: Shortly after release, and during OB. |
| 19:14.17 | Dagmar | We've had global channels before. |
| 19:15.04 | jnwhiteh | uhh |
| 19:15.06 | Hirsute | Dagmar: Ah. I was in OB, but don't remember that. Anyhow, if they kept the throttle on Trade and added another, unthrottled or very loosely throttled global channel, I bet the cruft moves to the latter. |
| 19:15.09 | Dagmar | DWSR: I get feeling that regardless of that, if they were fully aware of the depth of depravity to which these dorks _aspire_, they would change their policy. |
| 19:15.10 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:15.11 | Fisker | are you there? |
| 19:15.11 | jnwhiteh | my svn development URL for grid is a username that is not mine =) |
| 19:15.36 | Fisker | you should be ashamed |
| 19:15.49 | amro | we are, we're all ashamed of you Fisker |
| 19:15.54 | Dagmar | Hirsute: They should *always* be throttled, just because of the dimwits that thing ASCII spam is novel and new |
| 19:16.02 | Dagmar | s/thing/think/; |
| 19:16.10 | Zasurus | Hiya |
| 19:16.17 | Dagmar | <-- refuses to be ashamed of Fisker |
| 19:16.18 | Fisker | sweet amro |
| 19:16.46 | Dagmar | If all trolls were like him, you'd never hear me hating on channel spammers. |
| 19:17.06 | DWSR | Dagmar: I wouldn't. You seen what happens on XBL? |
| 19:17.38 | Dagmar | DWSR: Yep. |
| 19:17.50 | Fisker | i'm the sound that plays when you press the "Play" button on the WoW Launcher |
| 19:17.57 | Dagmar | They actually have people who patrol those |
| 19:18.36 | jnwhiteh | Wow.. the 'Users who liked Clique also liked these' addons is.. sad. |
| 19:18.42 | jnwhiteh | They have 7 and 3 downloads per day, respectively. |
| 19:18.43 | jnwhiteh | ouch. |
| 19:18.56 | Zasurus | Any idea why a frame with a parent of WorldMapDetailFrame (added by Astrolabe) that has an "OnEnter" so when I mouse over it that works fine normally but the OnEnter doesn't get triggered when you mouse over it when there is something on the map using Bliz's new(ish) "Show Quest Objectives"? |
| 19:18.59 | jnwhiteh | too bad Healbot has the curse healing market cornered =/ |
| 19:19.21 | Fisker | sauce jnwhiteh ? |
| 19:19.28 | Fisker | lol healbot |
| 19:19.34 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: Clique wasnt... working properly? |
| 19:19.40 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: huh? |
| 19:20.20 | Kraps | i was only able to set shift+rmb/lmb and then nothing else would go |
| 19:20.43 | jnwhiteh | you should no to report issues better than that. What version are you using? |
| 19:20.52 | jnwhiteh | I suspect its horridly out of date, given the frequency with which I am updating. |
| 19:20.59 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.04 | jnwhiteh | but either way, this should no longer be an issue |
| 19:22.25 | DWSR | Do I have to add the extension to a font file? |
| 19:22.50 | DWSR | When I'm specifying it in a CreatFontString? |
| 19:23.24 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: 40000-1.2.6 |
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| 19:28.35 | cralor | is um.... :SetMinMaxValues() gone? |
| 19:28.47 | cralor | for Slider object |
| 19:28.56 | cralor | ohhh nvm :) |
| 19:29.02 | cralor | i am dumb :P |
| 19:29.10 | cralor | created a frame, not a slider |
| 19:29.45 | Ackis | Torhal: https://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/be0f869b-ebe4-4fba-affc-eff809e6a13d.jpg |
| 19:30.47 | DWSR | ahahaha |
| 19:32.02 | DWSR | weeee |
| 19:32.05 | cralor | does anyone know the max font size value? (an argument of the SetFont method) |
| 19:32.15 | Ackis | the best part about Torhal is that when my cats talk to him, he talks back |
| 19:32.48 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 19:33.18 | Ackis | ? |
| 19:33.26 | Fisker | Tell my wife i said hello |
| 19:34.42 | Ackis | she didn't get there yet? I'd call the police may have been an accident |
| 19:34.51 | Ackis | she was walking bow-legged after she left however |
| 19:35.19 | DWSR | cralor: Over 9000 |
| 19:35.44 | cralor | DWSR: after 30 it doesn't change :( |
| 19:40.54 | amro | UIErrorsFrame is also used for quest objectives? |
| 19:46.13 | Ackis | Arrowmaster, Shirik, olafski: http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8024d5307f1/?p=1&of=6&bt=0&sb=1&did=00000001-0000-4000-8000-00004d5307f1 Not sure if it's the full game or not, worth a try IMO |
| 19:46.51 | Arrowmaster | i have the full game already |
| 19:47.15 | Shirik | it says 7GB |
| 19:47.36 | Shirik | not at home right now but queued it |
| 19:47.45 | Ackis | I queued it as well, for shits and giggles |
| 19:47.50 | Ackis | I have the full game as well |
| 19:48.17 | Shirik | FABLE II |
| 19:48.17 | Shirik | Full Game |
| 19:48.17 | Shirik | 6.6 GB |
| 19:48.17 | Shirik | Status: |
| 19:48.17 | Shirik | Download pending |
| 19:48.19 | Shirik | oops |
| 19:48.23 | Shirik | but yeah it definitely says full game |
| 19:48.44 | Shirik | maybe it's trying to get people to buy fable 3 |
| 19:49.03 | jnwhiteh | How much would you hate having an indicator telling you that you're in Clique binding mode |
| 19:49.03 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a0e9b9630ca6d252aa9b5e04a5c161fd.png |
| 19:49.09 | Arrowmaster | i put it in my download queue so now im going to remove it |
| 19:49.10 | jnwhiteh | it would obviously only be active when both windows are open. |
| 19:49.19 | jnwhiteh | is it unobtrusive enough? |
| 19:50.01 | DWSR | wow. |
| 19:50.05 | DWSR | PvP is so fucking broken. |
| 19:50.57 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: I think so. |
| 19:51.58 | amro | Shirik: maybe I would if they'd bothered to release f2 on PC |
| 19:52.27 | amro | DWSR: yeah, it's a race to colossi. |
| 19:52.30 | amro | hides |
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| 20:03.54 | Kraps | cool topic http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27300871125&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 20:04.30 | Kraps | DWSR: mlg in wash. DC starts today |
| 20:04.39 | durcyn | jnwhiteh: is the perfectraid svn repo deprecated? |
| 20:04.40 | Kraps | its gonna be fail |
| 20:04.50 | amro | who cares about the wow part |
| 20:04.54 | amro | they're gonna have an sc2 bit right? |
| 20:05.23 | jnwhiteh | durcyn: I can probably give you the git addy if you'd like. |
| 20:05.24 | jnwhiteh | but yes. |
| 20:05.43 | durcyn | jnwhiteh: er, the wowi one i mean. if googlecode's up to date i'll use that instead |
| 20:05.56 | jnwhiteh | only the git repo is. |
| 20:05.58 | jnwhiteh | not googlecode |
| 20:06.00 | jnwhiteh | not wowi svn =) |
| 20:06.12 | jnwhiteh | as of about an hour ago |
| 20:06.17 | durcyn | well, if it's public, don't want to be a bother about it |
| 20:11.37 | Arrowmaster | my friend just linked me http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dwesw3ee%28VS.71%29.aspx#vxtbshttpservererrorsthingstocheck |
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| 20:12.02 | Arrowmaster | "Did you create the project by specifying a specific IP address (100.20.300.400, for example)?" |
| 20:12.05 | Arrowmaster | gg microsoft |
| 20:12.24 | industrial | boohoohoo Ubuntu :( I don't like the way you are heading towards indicator applets for gnome-panel at all. I hate the inicator applets and i hate the integration. I dont even use rhythmbox and i DONT want to control my media player from my taskbar. I'll use my media player for it. |
| 20:12.29 | Cide | are you gg-ing because they missed a zero? |
| 20:12.43 | Cide | industrial: kde? |
| 20:12.52 | industrial | I can't even get a volume slider WITHOUT an email icon.. i use gmail.. why do I want an empty email icon? |
| 20:12.56 | industrial | kde --> no. |
| 20:13.24 | industrial | I'm using alsamixer for volume now. T_T |
| 20:14.12 | Cide | kde allows you to customize the task bar any way you want pretty much |
| 20:14.14 | Cide | I learned today |
| 20:14.20 | industrial | Also, </3 #ubuntu, it's entirely too big. Actually getting support in there is a real task :P |
| 20:14.38 | durcyn | the gnome folks seem bound and determined to repeat every mistake microsoft and apple ever made, ten years late |
| 20:14.40 | amro | yeah, the channel fails |
| 20:14.50 | amro | ~durcyn++ |
| 20:14.57 | PProvost | Anyone know if the class rebalancing changes have happened yet? If so, is there a blue post that says what they did? |
| 20:15.17 | Cide | there's always the 12 screens long list on mmoc |
| 20:15.27 | durcyn | PProvost: the coefficient hotfixes on mmo-champ are live now |
| 20:15.46 | industrial | durcyn: they actually took out the volume thingy on gnome-panel now in 10.10 (the one thats there in gnome by default, on all distros) and now I have to use the indicator applet (which also has an email icon... next to it) |
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| 20:15.48 | durcyn | it's about ten lines, not the 4.0.1 rollup |
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| 20:15.59 | PProvost | durcyn: thanks |
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| 20:16.32 | Cide | WHY DO I POST LIKE 95% OF THE USEFULNESS ON THE TOPIC AND DURCYN FILLS IN WITH THE REST AND GETS ALL THE CREDIT GAH |
| 20:16.48 | durcyn | you can have my karma, Cide |
| 20:16.54 | Cide | ~karma durcyn |
| 20:16.54 | purl | durcyn has karma of 13 |
| 20:16.58 | Cide | ~karma Cide |
| 20:16.58 | purl | cide has karma of 14 |
| 20:17.01 | Cide | one-up'd' |
| 20:17.05 | Cide | s/d'/d/ |
| 20:17.13 | foxlit | ~Cide-- |
| 20:17.15 | foxlit | fix'd |
| 20:17.17 | industrial | I also do NOT like how window names are NOT application names... I usually have ot go to Help > About to get the name of the app to then uninstall it >:P |
| 20:17.48 | Cide | foxlit: don't you dare |
| 20:17.51 | Arrowmaster | industrial: if you hate it so much, why the hell are you using ubuntu? |
| 20:18.38 | durcyn | gonna go out on a limb and suggest xubuntu, xfce is, for me at least, half as annoying as gnome ever was |
| 20:18.43 | amro | ~Cide++ |
| 20:18.47 | amro | Cide: there there, relax |
| 20:18.51 | Cide | phew. |
| 20:19.08 | industrial | because I keep going back and forth between 'zomg everything works out of the box' and 'I have to change so much on Ubuntu to make it how I like' |
| 20:19.27 | adyn | LFS |
| 20:19.29 | amro | unless there's an Industrial Linux, you're going to have to change every distro |
| 20:19.34 | Arrowmaster | everything works out of the box on most distros |
| 20:19.42 | adyn | I just compile everything myself and go with that |
| 20:19.50 | Cide | except if you have ati |
| 20:19.55 | amro | ^ |
| 20:19.59 | industrial | kekeke |
| 20:20.01 | Arrowmaster | nothing works period if you have ati |
| 20:20.05 | amro | yeah |
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| 20:21.29 | Cide | it does actually |
| 20:21.33 | Cide | my fglrx runs great now |
| 20:22.26 | alestane | Gzornenplatt? |
| 20:25.06 | Cide | wat |
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| 20:25.28 | amro | I dunno, but that made about as much sense as fglrx working |
| 20:27.35 | SqueeG | ati works fine on nix |
| 20:27.54 | SqueeG | ran better than nvidia when i had it installed last yaer |
| 20:27.56 | SqueeG | year* |
| 20:28.03 | SqueeG | with one caveat for warcraft |
| 20:28.06 | Arrowmaster | what the hell are you smoking? |
| 20:28.15 | SqueeG | it didn't display city maps in the minimap |
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| 20:30.59 | amro | ati is not even close to fine on nix |
| 20:31.03 | SqueeG | i don't like this new launcher D: |
| 20:31.04 | amro | it even fails hard on windows |
| 20:31.16 | SqueeG | ATI is supa smooth on all my windows machines |
| 20:33.29 | SqueeG | and ati cards have been top spot for a long while :p |
| 20:33.59 | Gnarfoz | <Gnarfoz> what does this guild tabard logo look like to you: http://wowvault.ign.com/?dir=guilds&content=tabards&id=93 ? |
| 20:36.10 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: 3 goats |
| 20:36.30 | Gnarfoz | hm, hm |
| 20:38.05 | durcyn | Gnarfoz: butterfly with an erection |
| 20:38.56 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: we're not doing Rorschach tests here |
| 20:39.10 | Gnarfoz | (or maybe we are, hehe) |
| 20:41.57 | foxlit | Time to sing praises for the new arcane |
| 20:43.03 | foxlit | They managed to make AM exciting and the slow on AB is brilliant for soloing |
| 20:46.14 | alestane | Okay...I'm trying to debug a function. It consists of retrieving a value from another function on one line, and returning it on the next. I cannot for the life of me get the debugger to stop between the two lines so that I can examine the value between retrieving it and return ing it. Thoughts? |
| 20:46.55 | Dagmar | Add a do-nothing line and target it as a breakpoint? |
| 20:47.07 | Dagmar | Or, you know... printf() the thing |
| 20:47.09 | SqueeG | paste it alestane? |
| 20:47.14 | zenzelezz | what debugger is this? |
| 20:47.24 | zenzelezz | I'd think setting a breakpoint on the return line would do what you wanted |
| 20:47.41 | foxlit | Your language needs a skip function |
| 20:47.57 | alestane | I think it's gdb. It's Xcode's front-end. Both step over and step into skip over the return statement to the function's closing brace. |
| 20:48.28 | alestane | And I've tried adding nothing lines like "v = v?:nil;", foxlit. It skips them too. |
| 20:48.46 | foxlit | volatile int foo |
| 20:48.48 | foxlit | foo = 5 |
| 20:49.13 | alestane | An unrelated nothing line, in other words. |
| 20:49.40 | zenzelezz | alestane: if you place a breakpoint on the return line, and the debugger stops there... can't you just open the debugger window and poke around? |
| 20:49.44 | zenzelezz | why are you trying to step? |
| 20:50.10 | alestane | Mostly because the function in question gets called many times, but I only need to examine one of them. |
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| 20:50.43 | zenzelezz | paste some code or something, I'm confused |
| 20:52.59 | alestane | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141661, zenzelezz. |
| 20:54.12 | zenzelezz | that's different behaviour from any way Xcode's worked for me... I assume you also tried putting the breakpoint on the return line and it never got hit? |
| 20:54.21 | alestane | Partly, stepping through the code just seems to jump back and forth, maybe because of pipelining or something, I don't know. |
| 20:54.26 | foxlit | alestane: how about stopping elsewhere? |
| 20:54.51 | foxlit | I mean, you could be reasonably sure it'll return your value -- why not break in the calling code? |
| 20:55.44 | alestane | That's what I'm doing. And now that I'm being rabid about hitting step into, it seems to be doing things in smaller pieces, and I'm getting closer to the results I expect. |
| 20:56.18 | alestane | But yes, I was breaking in the calling code, stepping into that function, and it just skipped straight from the first line to the end. |
| 20:58.58 | alestane | The funny thing right now is I'm breaking on a later line, and when I hit the first step into, it jumps to the line before. |
| 20:59.16 | foxlit | perhaps your compiler is just cleverer than you -- it optimizes the thing into a tailcall or something |
| 21:00.00 | alestane | It shouldn't be, I've turned off optimization. |
| 21:00.21 | zenzelezz | threading? |
| 21:00.47 | alestane | I haven't even touched threading. Any threading is happening behind my back. |
| 21:02.08 | alestane | I set a break on line 5 of the function...lines 3 and 4 are an if, condition and action. It breaks on line 5, and progresses as I "step into": ->4->5->3->4->5. |
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| 21:11.12 | alestane | Well, that was an idiot moment hardcore. |
| 21:11.23 | alestane | All the values I was obtaining were perfectly correct. |
| 21:11.37 | Adys | Dagmar: ping |
| 21:11.50 | alestane | But I never set the outlet in Interface Builder, so I was setting the button title on a nil object. |
| 21:13.11 | zenzelezz | :-p |
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| 21:14.58 | Jamash | I'm making some progress on fixing my ui toolkit |
| 21:15.29 | Jamash | the way StormLib handles patch files is somewhat odd; it only exposes files in the base MPQ, so files *added* in the patch, not simply updated, don't appear |
| 21:16.07 | Jamash | I'm going to email the author about that |
| 21:16.18 | foxlit | What do I do with a bug report that basically says "I get errors"? |
| 21:16.33 | Jamash | put it in the prestigious round file |
| 21:16.37 | foxlit | [There are obviously errors, but the report is kind of meh] |
| 21:16.50 | cralor | where can I find the colors of RunicPower/Energy/Rage/Mana ? |
| 21:16.56 | cralor | Focus |
| 21:17.26 | foxlit | I don't particularly want to accept it -- sucks for verification reasons; it's not a duplicate as nobody uses the ticket system; it's not invalid -- errors do exist. |
| 21:17.37 | foxlit | And "Declined" smells of "won't fix" |
| 21:18.03 | alestane | Kick it back for more info? |
| 21:18.05 | mikma | foxlit: doctors declined your face |
| 21:19.07 | mikma | oh, a better one |
| 21:19.17 | mikma | ops declined fisker trolling |
| 21:19.55 | Ackis | foxlit: on Curse I just mark that shit as invalid |
| 21:20.17 | amro | Ackis: so, all reports? :P |
| 21:21.01 | Ackis | amro: close to it :( |
| 21:21.55 | cralor | anywhere I can find all of the RGB values for the character powers? |
| 21:22.13 | mikma | yeah, in FrameXML |
| 21:22.22 | cralor | you remember which one? |
| 21:22.44 | mikma | try searching the files with notepad++ |
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| 21:23.22 | amro | I need a 2-point achievement |
| 21:23.24 | amro | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/984621/1/amro/ |
| 21:24.20 | foxlit | doomed. |
| 21:24.35 | foxlit | You could get some very easy 10 points by playing 2 more 4v4 games |
| 21:26.43 | Corrodias | looking at that page makes me feel dirty |
| 21:26.46 | mikma | cralor: PowerBarColor[self.powerName] |
| 21:26.48 | Corrodias | like you were jacking off in my face |
| 21:26.58 | Corrodias | was it good for you? |
| 21:27.31 | mikma | cralor: basicly PowerBarColoc["Energy"].r, PowerBarColoc["Energy"].g, PowerBarColoc["Energy"].b |
| 21:27.58 | mikma | yeah typo |
| 21:28.36 | mikma | cralor: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/UnitFrame.lua |
| 21:30.35 | amro | foxlit: those 4v4s were just trying the funday monday last week |
| 21:30.50 | amro | 3v3s too, surprisingly we won quit a bit |
| 21:30.51 | amro | +e |
| 21:32.59 | cralor | thanks, mikma! |
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| 21:35.27 | Angayelle | awww i was so proud of me |
| 21:36.45 | Angayelle | in my : function Combustion_OnLoad(frame) , should i replace the "frame by my frame name so it restrict the register event ? |
| 21:37.14 | Angayelle | now that i think about it, it would be strange |
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| 21:50.04 | Alram | thats what she said |
| 21:52.33 | Angayelle | can someone have a look at my onload section ? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141668 |
| 21:53.06 | Shirik | ok and what calls onload? |
| 21:53.08 | Angayelle | on very first start the false test return but without changing anything, with a reload ui, the true test return |
| 21:53.18 | Angayelle | my xml |
| 21:53.37 | Shirik | sigh |
| 21:53.42 | Shirik | I wish XML would just go away |
| 21:54.03 | Angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141669 |
| 21:54.22 | Shirik | uh |
| 21:54.32 | Angayelle | just a part of my xml ofc |
| 21:54.39 | Angayelle | the script part |
| 21:55.58 | Angayelle | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141670 whole xml, script is at the end |
| 21:56.21 | Cide | Shirik: then we'd have to rename ajax despite it rarely being used like that anymore! |
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| 21:59.03 | Amarande | yay! the game's broken on raid night! wtg blizzard. :p |
| 21:59.27 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCFgFHvK_KQ |
| 21:59.29 | foxlit | odd trailer |
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| 21:59.57 | Amarande | anyone else unable to log on now? |
| 22:00.11 | Amarande | ahh, there we go. |
| 22:00.15 | Amarande | that was odd. |
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| 22:04.28 | Angayelle | looks like upon first login the onload section fire before the glyph info available |
| 22:04.44 | Angayelle | xml related ? |
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| 22:12.23 | gullfisken | Hi. Does the UIDropDownMenu template from FrameXML support radio-buttons? Can't see this wowwiki article mention it, but I guess that article might be out-dated. (http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Object_UIDropDownMenu#The_info_table) |
| 22:12.46 | alestane | Amarande, it's less than a week since a major patch. You expected otherwise? |
| 22:12.49 | Jamash | anyone have an in-game texture browser? |
| 22:13.48 | Amarande | alestane: there was a temporary glitch that I didn't expect |
| 22:14.04 | Amarande | I logged off to switch from Big Wigs to DBM since we normally use it to raid and it's updated now |
| 22:14.18 | Amarande | and then I went to log back on, downloading update, and then for a few minutes after it applied it couldn't validate game version |
| 22:17.30 | Wobin | that'll teach you |
| 22:18.58 | Wobin | foxlit: yeah, Albion is no longer as idyllic as it used to be? |
| 22:19.35 | foxlit | gullfisken: it's radio options by default |
| 22:20.09 | gullfisken | ah, ok |
| 22:20.11 | gullfisken | ty |
| 22:20.35 | alestane | pounces Cairenn to the floor in a torrent of cuddly enthusiasm. |
| 22:20.52 | foxlit | Wobin: I'm having doubts as to whether it's advertising a game |
| 22:21.08 | Wobin | truedat |
| 22:21.29 | gullfisken | foxlit: does it only support 2 levels? |
| 22:21.49 | foxlit | 3, counting the outer, iirc |
| 22:22.11 | foxlit | Though, really, if you need deeper drop-down lists, reconsider what you're doing :) |
| 22:22.53 | gullfisken | memory-wise? |
| 22:22.55 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.26 | Amarande | Heya Cairenn :) |
| 22:24.32 | Cairenn | hi Amarande |
| 22:24.39 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8y5nR0kjnA is closer |
| 22:24.47 | foxlit | also, chicken. |
| 22:27.42 | Jamash | see, now this is why it's important to have a functioning UI toolkit |
| 22:27.48 | Wobin | foxlit: well, either you mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcOWmjSBlg&feature=related or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL_-1d9OSdk =) |
| 22:28.06 | foxlit | the latter |
| 22:28.22 | foxlit | the former is hideous. |
| 22:28.48 | Jamash | diff -u -r WoW_Interface_enUS /d/Games/World\ of\ Warcraft/User-Interface-Code/13164/Interface | wc |
| 22:28.50 | Jamash | 39714 142340 1606404 |
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| 22:29.59 | Jamash | for those not versed in the intricacies of wc, that's 142,340 lines worth of diff |
| 22:30.22 | Jamash | between the ui code posted on the blizzard site, and what's actually live |
| 22:31.20 | alestane | The same thing is happening to me now, Amarande. |
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| 22:33.47 | alestane | And now it works again. |
| 22:35.35 | foxlit | Wobin: I now need to purge that video from my viewing history |
| 22:35.46 | foxlit | It introduces an incredible amount of stupidity to Recommended for You |
| 22:35.53 | Wobin | foxlit: He LOVES HIS CHICKEN |
| 22:36.51 | foxlit | Can't selectively remove it :/ |
| 22:39.15 | Amarande | foxlit, is it trying to get you to watch Backstreet Boys videos now? |
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| 22:54.04 | Jamash | why does pastey hate me |
| 22:57.14 | foxlit | because you tried to include a url? |
| 22:57.25 | Jamash | the blizzard xml files all have urls in them |
| 22:57.36 | foxlit | doom and suffering has come to this world. |
| 22:57.45 | foxlit | or something? |
| 22:59.35 | foxlit | just doom, apparently. |
| 23:00.11 | Arrowmaster | do you know how to edit cookies? i cant remember the page that sets the cookie that makes it not ask you |
| 23:00.22 | Arrowmaster | to put every url in backwards |
| 23:00.37 | Arrowmaster | but i know what the cookie is |
| 23:00.53 | foxlit | javascript:void(document.cookie = "foo=bar") |
| 23:01.15 | Arrowmaster | NotASpammer=IndeedilyDoodily |
| 23:02.28 | Jamash | so I figured out exactly how many urls blah blah reversed text blah blah |
| 23:02.32 | Jamash | "MySQL error prevented this operation from completing" |
| 23:02.49 | Jamash | http://img408.imageshack.us/i/ffffffuuuuu.gif/ |
| 23:04.48 | foxlit | "You will be Zergrushed. And then there will be cake." |
| 23:06.31 | Jamash | aright to hell with pastey |
| 23:07.08 | Arrowmaster | i just told you the cookie to create |
| 23:07.49 | foxlit | [This is probably why I prefer my own domain when pasting large amounts of code] |
| 23:07.56 | Jamash | I figured you were joking |
| 23:08.00 | foxlit | Plus I get to delete it afterwards. |
| 23:08.18 | foxlit | [and hope that google hasn't indexed it 17-ways to tomorrow.] |
| 23:10.08 | Mr_Rabies | gah |
| 23:10.41 | Mr_Rabies | livestock has some issues here :O |
| 23:12.49 | Mr_Rabies | looks like it's guppet time once i feel like relaunching wow |
| 23:13.20 | Jamash | anyhoo, paste.curseforge.com is happy to let me post things |
| 23:13.29 | Jamash | http://paste.curseforge.com/2609/ |
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| 23:15.47 | Gnarfoz | hmmm |
| 23:15.59 | Gnarfoz | PLAYER_LOGIN is too early to check for SavedVariables, is it not? |
| 23:16.15 | foxlit | no, but it's the wrong place anyway. |
| 23:16.35 | Arrowmaster | ADDON_LOADED |
| 23:16.37 | alestane | Check your saved variables at ADDON_LOADED where the first argument is your add-on name. |
| 23:16.49 | alestane | Or if you don't want to be bothered, VARIABLES_LOADED. |
| 23:17.03 | alestane | Although I think that one fires a few times now. |
| 23:17.13 | foxlit | alestane: can you actually get to a situation where the first AL you catch is not your own? |
| 23:17.21 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:17.34 | Arrowmaster | if you call LoadAddOn() in your main chuck |
| 23:17.36 | foxlit | do you have to be evil and load other addons to get there? |
| 23:17.59 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: just checking, Gello apparently did it wrong(tm) |
| 23:19.01 | Cide | foxlit: robots.txt? :P |
| 23:19.21 | foxlit | Cide: probably meta noindex, but meh, too lazy |
| 23:19.21 | Cide | re < foxlit> [and hope that google hasn't indexed it 17-ways to tomorrow.] |
| 23:20.20 | Gnarfoz | jnwhiteh: are you doing any work on NinjaPanel anymore, or, to pose the question differently: is that in a working state? |
| 23:20.36 | Gnarfoz | (that is your LDB display, is it not? going from memory here) |
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| 23:29.48 | cog|away | 2 more sleeps! |
| 23:30.23 | Angayelle | upon login the last event to fire is VARIABLES_LOADED right ? |
| 23:30.36 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 23:30.45 | Arrowmaster | that fires fairly early |
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| 23:30.57 | A-KO | I think it's like addon_loaded or something like that |
| 23:31.00 | A-KO | isn't it? |
| 23:31.11 | Arrowmaster | ADDON_LOADED is the first event to fire |
| 23:31.15 | A-KO | oh |
| 23:31.15 | A-KO | heh |
| 23:31.16 | A-KO | I fail then |
| 23:31.17 | A-KO | been a while |
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| 23:31.35 | tem | Arrowmaster, you sure about that? |
| 23:31.43 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:31.51 | tem | I'd bet there are a couple that happen before ADDON_LOADED |
| 23:32.04 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 23:33.43 | Angayelle | PLAYER_ALIVE seems to be the last event upon login |
| 23:34.04 | Arrowmaster | right but its not reliable since it doesnt fire when you reload the ui |
| 23:34.17 | Angayelle | damn |
| 23:34.28 | Arrowmaster | why do you need the 'last' event |
| 23:35.22 | Angayelle | because i need to check talents and glyph upon loading and ADDON_LOADED don't have that info upon first login |
| 23:35.33 | Angayelle | it appears on the ui at PLAYER8ALIVE |
| 23:35.47 | Arrowmaster | dont events fire for talents and glyphs |
| 23:35.59 | Angayelle | upon changing them |
| 23:36.15 | Hirsute | Hrmmm. How about VARIABLES_LOADED? |
| 23:36.20 | Arrowmaster | Hirsute: no |
| 23:36.26 | Arrowmaster | thats the 2nd event fired |
| 23:36.40 | Angayelle | PLAYER TALENT UPDATE, GLYPH ADDED, GLYPH REMOVE, all that doesn't fire at loading |
| 23:36.51 | Hirsute | Arrowmaster: Thanks for the correction. I've never used anything but ADDON_LOADED to trigger initial addon stuff. |
| 23:37.32 | Angayelle | SPELLS_CHANGED have the info aout spells but not talents |
| 23:37.48 | nevcairiel | You can go with PLAYER_LOGIN and PLAYER_ALIVE; during initial login, PLAYER_ALIVE is good for you, and when the user reloads, the info is available earlier |
| 23:37.48 | nevcairiel | at PLAYER_LOGIN |
| 23:38.39 | Arrowmaster | make sure to unregister the events once you get what you need |
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| 23:39.15 | Angayelle | can i go with both using : if (event == PLAYER_LOGIN) or (PLAYER_ALIVE) then ? |
| 23:39.24 | Angayelle | why unregister ? |
| 23:39.34 | nevcairiel | those 2 will never fire again |
| 23:39.41 | Angayelle | it fires upon not only me login ? |
| 23:39.42 | Arrowmaster | PLAYER_ALIVE will |
| 23:40.01 | Arrowmaster | !api PLAYER_ALIVE |
| 23:40.01 | lua_bot | PLAYER_ALIVE: Fires when the player's spirit is released after death or when the player accepts a resurrection without releasing (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PLAYER_ALIVE) |
| 23:40.07 | Hirsute | Hrmmmm.... "Unable to Validate Game Version" |
| 23:40.13 | Hirsute | I really don't want to reinstall wow tonight. |
| 23:40.27 | Computerpunk | !api UNIT_POWER |
| 23:40.27 | lua_bot | UNIT_POWER: <em>This event is not yet documented</em> (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_POWER) |
| 23:40.27 | Mr_Rabies | use the repair tool |
| 23:40.33 | Mr_Rabies | it's happening to a lot of people though |
| 23:40.33 | Computerpunk | !api UNIT_MANA |
| 23:40.33 | lua_bot | UNIT_MANA: Fires when a unit's mana level changes (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/UNIT_MANA) |
| 23:40.35 | Computerpunk | :o |
| 23:40.44 | Mr_Rabies | my guess is they accidentally applied the cata patch to live |
| 23:40.44 | nevcairiel | unit_mana doesnt fire anymore |
| 23:40.45 | Computerpunk | This is useful. |
| 23:41.04 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: fix your site |
| 23:42.08 | nevcairiel | Hirsute: just wait a bit, some servers seem to have hicups |
| 23:42.42 | Hirsute | nevcairiel: Good to know... I was about to say they changed the repair tool, and I don't particularly wanting it wiping my WTF and Interface folders for me, but I can't find any checkboxes to control what it hits. |
| 23:44.14 | Amarande | I guess I'd better not log out or DC then Hirsute. |
| 23:44.19 | Amarande | I have raid in fifteen minutes. |
| 23:44.33 | Hirsute | crosses his fingers for Amarande |
| 23:45.41 | Mr_Rabies | huh yeah |
| 23:45.43 | Mr_Rabies | i just got it too |
| 23:45.53 | Mr_Rabies | but i relaunched the launcher and let it finish patching entirely and it worked |
| 23:46.13 | Hirsute | Seems like it may be related to the streaming downloader, as on restarting the launcher it wants to apply non-critical updates. |
| 23:46.27 | Hirsute | Of course, it seems to be stuck for me... |
| 23:46.46 | nevcairiel | non-critical updates probably just means its restructuring some files |
| 23:47.09 | Hirsute | Aye, but the progress bar isn't moving at all. :( |
| 23:47.13 | Hirsute | I like to see progress bars move. |
| 23:47.16 | Dewin | Probably bringing data that was streamed into MPQs |
| 23:47.17 | Hirsute | It makes me smile. |
| 23:47.30 | Dewin | I can't seem to get the beta launcher to launch. |
| 23:48.29 | Mr_Rabies | let it finish and you might be able to get in Hirsute |
| 23:49.23 | Hirsute | Mr_Rabies: It never did finish, but I'm just about logged in now. *shrug* Now, as long as my code changes don't blow anything up... |
| 23:54.50 | Gnarfoz | DoubleWideTradeSkills is by Iriel, is it not? |
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| 23:55.54 | Cairenn | yes |
| 23:58.12 | Gnarfoz | kay, I'll keep it around then |
