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| 00:07.43 | Arrowmaster | im being offered a blizzcon ticket, anybody got spare room booked or even spare bed? |
| 00:08.33 | Thunder_Child | doesnt wowi get a batch of rooms at discount? |
| 00:09.58 | Cairenn | no |
| 00:10.38 | Arrowmaster | anybody got a spare bed? i dont want to stay by my self all the way over at the motel 6 |
| 00:10.41 | Thunder_Child | huh, i thought there was one yeat |
| 00:10.58 | Cairenn | I arranged it one year but not enough people took advantage of it to make it worth all the work on my end |
| 00:11.15 | Cairenn | instead all I've been doing the last couple years is: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35040 |
| 00:12.49 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster, I signed you up on the waiting list for the community dinner (bit of a presumption on my part) - if you don't want to go, just tell me and I'll take your name off the list - if you do, we usually have at least a couple people who don't show up, but if worse comes to worse, it just means you have to pay for your own dinner: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35041 |
| 00:13.08 | Arrowmaster | waiting list? |
| 00:13.14 | Arrowmaster | youve got 42 people already? |
| 00:13.18 | Cairenn | yep |
| 00:13.19 | Thunder_Child | uh, dont we have to pay for our own dinner anyway? |
| 00:13.34 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child, no, we're covering it again this year, like last year |
| 00:13.42 | Thunder_Child | i wasnt there last year |
| 00:13.43 | Cairenn | but that's why the hard cap of 42 |
| 00:13.48 | Thunder_Child | the year before i paid |
| 00:13.51 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 00:13.57 | Cairenn | last year was the first time we paid for it |
| 00:14.10 | Thunder_Child | huh....not sure i agree with that, but ok. |
| 00:14.27 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: we had 39 signed up within 2 days of me posting it |
| 00:14.31 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child, why? |
| 00:14.45 | Arrowmaster | well im in this channel so i think i should be allowed in anyway |
| 00:14.52 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:14.58 | Arrowmaster | you all know you want to meet me |
| 00:15.07 | Cairenn | as I said, worse comes to worse, you have to pay your own freight ;) |
| 00:15.14 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: let me put it this way. is there a hard cap on what we can order? |
| 00:15.25 | Adys | we don't want to meet you |
| 00:15.26 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: the menu is posted, check the link |
| 00:15.29 | Adys | I'm hiring snipers right now |
| 00:15.31 | Adys | it's a trap. |
| 00:15.54 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: ah, i was wondering why it didnt have the same ammount of food that the actual resturant has |
| 00:16.19 | Arrowmaster | looking at flights right now and all i see for departing is a 1:25pm on the 24th which could be a problem if i have to book my own room |
| 00:16.35 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: ** Vegetarian and gluten-free entrée alternatives are available on request the night of the dinner. You can check out their regular menu here. ** |
| 00:17.06 | Thunder_Child | actually looking at the hilton, it's only $120/person if they split a room |
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| 00:18.10 | Arrowmaster | i can sleep on floors or curled up at the foot of a bed! |
| 00:20.35 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: I'd offer, but, well, yeah ... not so much ;) |
| 00:25.02 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Just bring a backpack tent, some chemical heat, and a can of mace. |
| 00:25.18 | Thunder_Child | anyone know the convention center parking lot price? |
| 00:29.22 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: how late (on average) after blizzcon does the partying go? |
| 00:29.37 | Cairenn | heh, depends how late you want it to go |
| 00:29.44 | Cairenn | and what group/event you are with |
| 00:29.58 | Cairenn | midnight - 2 am easy |
| 00:30.15 | Thunder_Child | no onder you never show up in the morning to blizzcon |
| 00:30.23 | Thunder_Child | wonder* |
| 00:30.24 | Cairenn | bah, I do too |
| 00:30.36 | Thunder_Child | do not. last time i was there you didnt show till 10-11 |
| 00:30.40 | Cairenn | just because you don't see me doesn't mean I'm not there |
| 00:30.49 | Thunder_Child | i caled you, you said you were still in your room |
| 00:30.52 | Thunder_Child | called* |
| 00:31.00 | Cairenn | I know :p |
| 00:31.06 | Thunder_Child | sticks his tounge out at Cairenn |
| 00:31.10 | Cairenn | that was the Saturday that I was so miserably sick |
| 00:31.35 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
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| 00:32.01 | Cairenn | ended up going back to my room mid afternoon and slept for like 4-5 hrs |
| 00:36.22 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: why is that an issue? |
| 00:36.37 | Arrowmaster | what? the flight time? |
| 00:36.43 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 00:36.47 | Arrowmaster | checkout |
| 00:36.56 | Thunder_Child | isnt it by 11? |
| 00:37.06 | Arrowmaster | good point |
| 00:38.13 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i'm thinking the crowne plaza |
| 00:40.00 | Arrowmaster | how are you going to get from there to the convention center? |
| 00:40.13 | Thunder_Child | i live in LA, i'm driving down |
| 00:40.46 | Arrowmaster | want to split a room? |
| 00:40.59 | Thunder_Child | sure |
| 00:41.09 | Thunder_Child | the 2 queen is $120/day |
| 00:41.58 | Arrowmaster | the flight im looking at arrives at 10am the 21st |
| 00:43.17 | Thunder_Child | check in time is 4pm |
| 00:44.11 | Thunder_Child | although the price i stated was w/o the blizzard dicount |
| 00:44.18 | Thunder_Child | which you have to call in for |
| 00:44.23 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 00:44.39 | Arrowmaster | guessing i could check my luggage at the desk or something |
| 00:45.47 | Arrowmaster | my mom was just in anaheim at the convention center and checked her luggage at the desk at the hilton one day |
| 00:45.49 | Thunder_Child | where are you fling in to? |
| 00:46.13 | Arrowmaster | orange county airport i guess |
| 00:46.33 | Cairenn | SNA? |
| 00:46.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 00:46.54 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 00:46.59 | Arrowmaster | i dont have the tickets yet just looking online |
| 00:47.05 | Cairenn | that's John Wayne/Santa Ana |
| 00:47.12 | Cairenn | it's the closer airport to the 'con |
| 00:47.51 | Thunder_Child | well, Los Alamitos is closer....but good luck with that one :p |
| 00:51.39 | Shirik | ~wiki User talk:Kaitlynkwilliams |
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| 00:53.47 | kd3 | john wayne is a hell of a lot more expensive to fly in to, however |
| 00:53.58 | kd3 | I don't mind the slightly longer drive from lax if I save $100... |
| 00:54.05 | Cairenn | kd3: depends on where from |
| 00:54.17 | Cairenn | kd3: for me, flying into LAX is more expensive |
| 00:54.44 | Arrowmaster | im looking at $400 with tax |
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| 00:55.54 | Arrowmaster | $450 with baggage |
| 00:56.55 | Shirik | holy crap |
| 00:56.56 | Shirik | why so much |
| 00:57.06 | Shirik | I haven't even booked the flight and I'm looking at $200-250 |
| 00:57.17 | Shirik | probably first class |
| 00:57.22 | kd3 | wtf |
| 00:57.38 | kd3 | you're flying from across the state, not across the country though |
| 00:57.46 | Shirik | FL to CA? |
| 00:57.53 | kd3 | thought you were up in seattle? |
| 00:57.58 | Shirik | no not right now |
| 00:58.01 | Arrowmaster | no im looking at cheap seats with a layover |
| 00:58.15 | Shirik | no I mean that's my price and I'll probably get first class, Arrowmaster |
| 00:58.23 | Arrowmaster | how? |
| 00:58.28 | Arrowmaster | seriously how? |
| 00:58.32 | Shirik | buying way too many plane tickets |
| 00:59.04 | Shirik | at a certain point airlines push you to brackets where they'll do anything to take you on a flight |
| 00:59.13 | Shirik | they'll throw free first class upgrades your way, etc. |
| 00:59.48 | Shirik | I leech off my dad; he travels CA to VA and back every week |
| 00:59.49 | Shirik | so |
| 01:00.34 | cide_ | my flight would be $1000 so |
| 01:00.35 | Arrowmaster | can i leech off your dad too? |
| 01:00.35 | cide_ | -_- |
| 01:00.47 | Shirik | if you get your name legally changed and become a dependent, sure |
| 01:03.26 | cide_ | fuck you boost python |
| 01:03.30 | cide_ | honestly |
| 01:03.37 | cide_ | how difficult can it be to compile a fucking library |
| 01:06.21 | Thunder_Child | cide_: go compile one yourself and you tell me |
| 01:10.03 | cide_ | FUCKING DIFFICULT |
| 01:10.16 | cide_ | but I may have solved it |
| 01:10.20 | cide_ | because I am godlike |
| 01:10.26 | Thunder_Child | then you can have a cookie |
| 01:11.04 | cide_ | no |
| 01:11.09 | cide_ | the protocol for cookies is retarded |
| 01:11.15 | Shirik | Cide |
| 01:11.21 | Shirik | are you ok |
| 01:11.28 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: did you want me to reserve or did you want to? |
| 01:11.29 | Shirik | you seem to have shrunk |
| 01:11.46 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: not peeking |
| 01:11.50 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: when would you be driving down and leaving? |
| 01:11.52 | Thunder_Child | s/t// |
| 01:11.54 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:12.07 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: thursday when there is no traffic and sunday |
| 01:12.34 | cide_ | Shirik: I didn't change the alternate nick in irssi |
| 01:12.36 | cide_ | but I'm good |
| 01:12.45 | cide_ | now that boost finally compiles instead of being a fucking bitch |
| 01:13.10 | Thunder_Child | oh cide_, you bitter bitter old man |
| 01:13.29 | Cide | indeed |
| 01:13.33 | Cide | except I'm not old |
| 01:13.47 | Cide | makes me all the cooler |
| 01:14.00 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: what time thursday? if you reserve it i would have to wait for you right? |
| 01:15.12 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: i would guess so, but we wont know till we call >.< I'm not sure what time. i might leave by 2 pm? i need to find out the best time to go down not to be hit by traffic. might be before that then...maybe 12 |
| 01:15.36 | Arrowmaster | ok well like i said the flight im looking at would arrive at 10am |
| 01:16.19 | Adys | Cide and cide_ sitting in a tree |
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| 01:16.28 | Thunder_Child | but how long will it take you to get to the hotel? |
| 01:16.40 | Thunder_Child | eh, you have a timeframe, might be safer if you do it |
| 01:16.53 | Ackis | http://cot.ag/aRrfCT |
| 01:16.56 | Ackis | cogwheel: ^ |
| 01:17.09 | Arrowmaster | the hotel is next to the airport |
| 01:17.20 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: though, like i said, you cant check into the room till 4 anyway |
| 01:17.22 | Arrowmaster | but i wont be able to checkin |
| 01:17.45 | Arrowmaster | i can just arrive at 10am then call Cairenn and bug her |
| 01:17.52 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:17.56 | Ackis | it's better to call her at 4 am |
| 01:18.03 | Cairenn | :9 |
| 01:18.05 | Thunder_Child | she will be on her tour i would expect |
| 01:18.06 | Ackis | :D |
| 01:18.19 | Arrowmaster | i could call her right now, i wrote down the cell number before she removed it from the page |
| 01:18.36 | Cairenn | :) |
| 01:18.37 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: 13 miles is not "right next to" |
| 01:18.57 | Arrowmaster | wait which hotel are you looking at? |
| 01:19.29 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: the one thats near the convention center |
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| 01:19.39 | Thunder_Child | Crowne Plaza Anaheim |
| 01:19.56 | Jamash | time for crushing enemies! |
| 01:19.57 | Ackis | on a side note, I hate you americans... netflix is sexy and you had it all this time!!! |
| 01:20.11 | Jamash | bwa ha ha ha |
| 01:20.17 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: eh, i can download movies faster than they can mail it to me |
| 01:20.24 | Cide | yesss |
| 01:20.25 | Cide | it compiled |
| 01:20.41 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: oh ok |
| 01:20.44 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: I watch them instantly via streaming |
| 01:20.49 | Ackis | we had that mail order stuff, that was lame |
| 01:20.56 | Ackis | not impulsive enough |
| 01:21.06 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: it's not the best quality sadly. i know, i have it as well |
| 01:21.10 | Jamash | grats cide, what compiled? |
| 01:21.16 | Thunder_Child | though you guys do have it for $1 less than us |
| 01:21.38 | Ackis | we don't have the mail out option however |
| 01:21.46 | Ackis | quality hasn't bothered me |
| 01:21.53 | Ackis | it looks like there's 4 levels of quality |
| 01:21.55 | Thunder_Child | i wish they had the streaming only option here |
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| 01:22.37 | Kraps | aiy aiy |
| 01:22.41 | Thunder_Child | well i am going to go from 300kb to 1.2mb connection, i'll see if anything changes |
| 01:23.06 | haste | bits or bytes? |
| 01:23.36 | Thunder_Child | err....i think i mixed them |
| 01:23.45 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: since i wouldnt be able to checkin anyway until after you should be there i think you should reserve the room, you seem to know more about whats going on than i do, i didnt even know about any blizzcon discount |
| 01:24.07 | Arrowmaster | Adys: looks like ill be taking that ticket, and i do get the goodie bag with it right? |
| 01:24.23 | Adys | yah |
| 01:24.37 | Adys | it won't have your name on it though |
| 01:24.45 | Adys | but that won't be a problem to enter |
| 01:24.49 | Arrowmaster | right so youll have to pick it up |
| 01:24.56 | Adys | yep |
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| 01:27.08 | kd3 | whee; X crashed |
| 01:27.21 | kd3 | right in the middle of a fight. let's see if I log in dead |
| 01:27.51 | Adys | kd3: 260.x? |
| 01:27.59 | Adys | 260.x has some random crash sometimes |
| 01:28.09 | Adys | 256.x doesnt |
| 01:28.18 | Adys | if it's a real issue, rollback |
| 01:29.26 | Shirik | hm |
| 01:29.32 | Shirik | friend is IMing me, "i know i'm going to learning a lot even after i finish school" |
| 01:29.39 | Shirik | yes I think he is going to learning a lot too |
| 01:31.24 | Thunder_Child | grammar is for wusses |
| 01:35.36 | Shirik | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1315671/Plane-Canada-Pakistan-grounded-Sweden-bomb-threat-board.html |
| 01:35.38 | Shirik | btw |
| 01:37.01 | Kraps | "With the Flexible Raid Lock system," |
| 01:37.13 | Kraps | sounds like an infomercial |
| 01:37.29 | Shirik | BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE |
| 01:37.37 | Shirik | Act now and you can EXTEND your raid locks |
| 01:37.43 | Shirik | not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES |
| 01:37.51 | Kraps | ^ win |
| 01:39.11 | Thunder_Child | And as an added bonus we will throw in 1 asshole per group, COMPLETELY FREE! |
| 01:39.37 | Cide | call today and get it for only $9.99! mayinducediarrheanauseaheadachesbraincancerandvomiting.notsuitableforchildren |
| 01:45.52 | Kraps | "Eviscerate base damage increased by 30%" nice |
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| 02:08.47 | Kraps | this is cool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SIJpYL-sXA&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 02:14.40 | Jerub | anyone know if cata will reduce epic flying cost? |
| 02:15.57 | Thunder_Child | somehow i doubt it |
| 02:20.51 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: how far away is legoland? |
| 02:21.54 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: 66 miles |
| 02:22.15 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: pick me up at 10am on thursday and take me to legoland |
| 02:22.30 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: ummm.....right... |
| 02:22.39 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:22.57 | Arrowmaster | im just looking at all the stuff the site is trying to offer me as im booking my flight |
| 02:24.31 | Thunder_Child | although i dont think i have ever been to legoland either |
| 02:25.26 | Arrowmaster | my mom says shes going to kill me if i goto legoland without her |
| 02:25.39 | Thunder_Child | ok, to legoland it is then |
| 02:26.33 | Arrowmaster | shes angry |
| 02:26.40 | Thunder_Child | she wont be there |
| 02:26.51 | Arrowmaster | im getting kicked |
| 02:26.51 | Thunder_Child | err...right? |
| 02:26.54 | Thunder_Child | heh |
| 02:26.54 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 02:27.07 | Thunder_Child | kick him harder |
| 02:27.39 | Arrowmaster | first she steals my blanket then she kicks me |
| 02:28.00 | Thunder_Child | yes...that sounds about right |
| 02:28.42 | Thunder_Child | though she has not come onto IRC and embarrassed you yet, so she has some ways to go |
| 02:29.35 | cide_ | so does your mom |
| 02:30.04 | cide_ | I think that's the first time I've ever typed that where it makes sense while not really being an insult |
| 02:30.22 | cide_ | first and last most likely |
| 02:31.55 | Thunder_Child | when he was getting kicked i was going to type "Harder Arrowmaster's mom" but thought that would be too much |
| 02:32.25 | Kraps | lololo abraham lincoln quote http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=20221 |
| 02:39.39 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child, Adys: ok im at the final step on booking my flights, you can stop me now if this has all been one big hoax |
| 02:40.21 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: i could stop you now, but it would be better to stop you after you book |
| 02:40.51 | Thunder_Child | jocking aside, i'll be there |
| 02:40.56 | Thunder_Child | jokeing* |
| 02:40.57 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 02:40.58 | Adys | Arrowmaster: gotcha! haha. |
| 02:41.42 | Adys | (i confirmed it the ticket is available) |
| 02:42.05 | Arrowmaster | ok i am going to book my flights then |
| 02:42.11 | Arrowmaster | the seating sucks though |
| 02:42.31 | Thunder_Child | i saw "Scooby-Doo and the Monster of Mexico" and my first thought was "they are fighing the drinking water?" |
| 02:43.06 | Kraps | http://wow.joystiq.com/2010/10/01/the-lawbringer-5-ways-trade-chat-can-get-you-in-trouble/ |
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| 02:51.44 | Shirik | :/ |
| 02:51.47 | Shirik | The 2010 Petarukan train collision occurred on 2 October 2010, at Petarukan, in Pemalang Regency of Central Java, Indonesia, when two high speed intercity trains collided with each other. Thirty-six people died as a result of the accident, and 60 people were reported injured. |
| 02:52.36 | Shirik | how are we this bad at something that's been around for 200 years? |
| 02:53.32 | Kraps | we != Indonesia |
| 02:53.36 | Kraps | so there |
| 02:55.49 | Shirik | ok |
| 02:56.00 | Thunder_Child | s/we/people/ |
| 02:56.03 | Thunder_Child | happy? |
| 02:57.20 | Shirik | I need a new phone |
| 02:57.22 | Shirik | what should I get |
| 02:58.10 | Kemayo | Depends on your needs. |
| 02:58.32 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: smartphone at the very least |
| 02:58.40 | Shirik | well I already have a BB Storm |
| 02:58.59 | Kemayo | My phone cost $10 and requires $15 to be spent on it every 3 months for airtime. If you're fine with the cost of a data plan, go with a smartphone. :P |
| 02:59.07 | Thunder_Child | i picked up the droid X, and with the exceotion of a few things, i am enjoying it |
| 02:59.19 | Thunder_Child | exception* |
| 02:59.31 | Shirik | what cost of a data plan |
| 02:59.34 | Shirik | get a better job |
| 02:59.36 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: such as it being usable as a dining table due to its size? |
| 02:59.41 | Kemayo | Heh, there is that. |
| 03:00.10 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: $30 unlimited |
| 03:00.21 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: it goes in my pocket, it's not that big |
| 03:00.33 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: but yes, that does come in handy from time to time |
| 03:01.32 | Zhinjio | ogod this is awesome: http://bit.ly/aoQHDA |
| 03:02.55 | Thunder_Child | wow, this one explains me http://wrongcards.com/ecard/difficult-purpose |
| 03:04.09 | Zhinjio | nice |
| 03:04.13 | Zhinjio | I love that site |
| 03:10.15 | amro | any warehouse 13 geeks in here? |
| 03:11.06 | TMcMahon51 | *raises hand* |
| 03:11.29 | amro | I'm trying to find kaley cuoco's appearances in s1, she's credited in 3 episodes as Paige Richards |
| 03:11.35 | amro | but I can't seem to find anything |
| 03:11.43 | amro | except porn if you google that name |
| 03:13.40 | TMcMahon51 | Don't recognize the name, but googled it, and I don't ever remember seeing anybody that looks like her in any episodes. |
| 03:13.57 | amro | yeah I know that |
| 03:13.59 | amro | I'd have noticed her |
| 03:14.12 | amro | or the voice |
| 03:14.27 | TMcMahon51 | where's she credited? I checked imdb and she's not listed at all for any of the cast. |
| 03:14.59 | amro | she's credited for Duped, Breakdown and MacPherson |
| 03:15.08 | amro | 8 10 and 12 I think |
| 03:16.05 | Seerah | amro: did you check IMDb? http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0192505/ |
| 03:16.11 | TMcMahon51 | Bah, season 1. Don't remember much of those episodes. |
| 03:16.27 | amro | Seerah: that's where I first saw her credited |
| 03:16.34 | Seerah | (should read before posting) |
| 03:16.37 | Seerah | *I |
| 03:16.38 | amro | and I was like WTF, I didn't see her anywhere |
| 03:16.49 | TMcMahon51 | Didnt think to check her page on imdb. |
| 03:16.53 | amro | and it's not just an imdb screwup, it's on several other places |
| 03:17.01 | amro | (unless they all got the fail from the same source?) |
| 03:17.15 | Kraps | does anyone have the game Rhythm Zone ? |
| 03:17.30 | TMcMahon51 | hmm, might go download that episode again. I'd bet she just played a very small role for a couple seconds on camera, then gone. |
| 03:17.58 | amro | no |
| 03:18.03 | amro | not the tiniest appearance |
| 03:18.05 | Seerah | did you see this? http://boardreader.com/thread/Warehouse_13_6u64X2kaxbn.html |
| 03:18.21 | TMcMahon51 | ahhh |
| 03:18.39 | TMcMahon51 | Well, always a possibility she was meant to play a role, and it was cut, or just a false print. |
| 03:18.46 | amro | I was thinking that |
| 03:18.55 | amro | but unlikely, I think it's a prank |
| 03:19.00 | amro | given the namesake >< |
| 03:24.29 | Thunder_Child | she might have been simply one of the reagents |
| 03:25.15 | amro | nope |
| 03:25.22 | amro | they're all old and none of them are whiny sluts |
| 03:25.32 | TMcMahon51 | lol |
| 03:26.25 | Thunder_Child | well she was supposed to be acting |
| 03:26.53 | Adys | Thunder_Child: most of the reagents have been removed in cataclysm anyway |
| 03:26.54 | amro | I honestly didn't notice any difference between 8sr and bbt |
| 03:27.03 | amro | ~Adys++ |
| 03:27.07 | Adys | also, no, she wasnt in the regents because i checked |
| 03:27.44 | Thunder_Child | Adys: i was killing nothing but them on my tour through brd today |
| 03:27.47 | Thunder_Child | multiple times |
| 03:31.21 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 03:40.16 | cide_ | Shirik: htc desire/incredible imo |
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| 03:43.56 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 03:44.02 | bluspacecow | <--- installing Torchlgiht |
| 03:44.38 | Iriel | Torchlight is fun |
| 03:45.19 | bluspacecow | i played it 2 nights back but managed to bork it somehow. |
| 03:51.00 | Kraps | meh |
| 03:51.11 | Kraps | i find it boring |
| 03:51.52 | Iriel | Kraps: it's got a "peck peck peck --- seed pellet!" appeal 8-) |
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| 04:03.53 | Arrowmaster | wow damn somebody just pointed out to me that LAX would have been cheaper than SNA for me |
| 04:05.45 | Kraps | "In fact, Jo says Michael Jackson once approached her about making a musical based on the books, and she turned him down." |
| 04:05.48 | Kraps | wtf |
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| 04:12.27 | Seerah | Jamash: the new version is great, thank you :) |
| 04:12.33 | Jamash | yw :) |
| 04:13.08 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: but then i would have had to have driven your but down to blizzcon |
| 04:13.28 | Arrowmaster | im going to have to take a shuttle either way |
| 04:13.28 | Seerah | nah, there's always super shuttle |
| 04:13.53 | Arrowmaster | but the idea of spending 30-40 minutes on a shuttle is not appealing |
| 04:14.11 | Seerah | we'll be taking super shuttle from sna |
| 04:14.21 | Seerah | when does your flight get in arrow? |
| 04:14.36 | Arrowmaster | 10:05am |
| 04:14.40 | Arrowmaster | 21st |
| 04:14.54 | Seerah | ah, we're getting in the afternoon of the 22nd |
| 04:15.04 | Seerah | err... 23rd (thursday) |
| 04:15.10 | Seerah | wait |
| 04:15.15 | Seerah | my calendar is still on Sept >< |
| 04:15.20 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:15.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah my options were either 10am or 10pm thursday |
| 04:15.42 | Seerah | sighs |
| 04:15.50 | Seerah | okay. afternoon of the 21st |
| 04:17.41 | Arrowmaster | my plan is get in at 10am, take a shuttle to the hotel and get them to hold my luggage until checkin time or Thunder_Child gets there, whichever is latter |
| 04:17.53 | Arrowmaster | after that i guess ill have to find something to do |
| 04:18.25 | Seerah | where are you staying? |
| 04:18.37 | Seerah | (I know that the Hilton held luggage 2 yrs ago) |
| 04:18.59 | Arrowmaster | TC was gona get a room at crowne plaza |
| 04:19.09 | Seerah | that sounds fancy |
| 04:19.50 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: "sounds" |
| 04:19.55 | Seerah | hehe |
| 04:20.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know the hilton does it, hope the crowne plaza does too since its only 1 block down the road from the hilton |
| 04:20.06 | Thunder_Child | it was on blizz's list of place that gave a blizz group rate |
| 04:20.23 | Thunder_Child | a blizcon rate* |
| 04:20.33 | Thunder_Child | places* |
| 04:20.38 | Thunder_Child | i can not type today... |
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| 04:21.14 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: thats not quite true, if you came in to LAX i would drive you down. |
| 04:21.40 | Arrowmaster | the LAX times are about the same, just wrose on departure |
| 04:21.51 | Arrowmaster | i am not leaving at 6am |
| 04:21.56 | Kraps | wtb diff for new ptr patch |
| 04:22.03 | Thunder_Child | hence cheaper |
| 04:22.19 | kd3 | ahaha... http://wowwiki.pastey.net/141124 |
| 04:22.20 | Arrowmaster | i already paid for the SNA flights |
| 04:22.35 | kd3 | uldum quest item |
| 04:22.41 | kd3 | I'll have it all up on the wiki shortly |
| 04:22.49 | Thunder_Child | i know. but you said you would have to take the shuttle either way. which i was responding to. |
| 04:23.29 | Arrowmaster | just make sure you get the room, i really dont care where as long as its not over $100 each a night, but free wifi is a must |
| 04:23.50 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: $100 per person? or total |
| 04:23.54 | Arrowmaster | per |
| 04:24.06 | Thunder_Child | oh, no. something like $60/night |
| 04:24.16 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 04:24.18 | Thunder_Child | and it's like $6/day for wifi |
| 04:25.09 | Thunder_Child | which i would be paying for anyway, since i need the parking part of that |
| 04:25.36 | Arrowmaster | yeah im gona steal a laptop for the trip |
| 04:25.44 | Arrowmaster | probably my moms |
| 04:26.02 | Thunder_Child | i dont have one. but my phone will make do |
| 04:26.24 | Arrowmaster | i just replaced my old phone which was from 2002 or 2003 |
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| 04:26.31 | Arrowmaster | my new one isnt much better |
| 04:26.35 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 04:26.50 | Arrowmaster | what its a $40 prepaid |
| 04:26.51 | Thunder_Child | i went from windows mobile 3.5 to froyo |
| 04:26.57 | Thunder_Child | HUUUUUGE jump |
| 04:27.36 | Arrowmaster | never had a smartphone |
| 04:28.03 | Asheru | Now the question is whos smarter you or the phone? |
| 04:28.18 | Arrowmaster | oh im sure im smarter than my current phone |
| 04:28.28 | Asheru | ^_^ |
| 04:28.35 | Seerah | I don't think that was directed at you, Arrowmaster ;) |
| 04:28.43 | Arrowmaster | its a nokia 2320 |
| 04:28.47 | Arrowmaster | cheap little thing |
| 04:29.00 | Seerah | I am addicted to my phone |
| 04:29.19 | Arrowmaster | i spend most of my day in front of my desktop |
| 04:29.25 | Asheru | Now Arrow whos smarter you or Seerah? (Evil Grin) |
| 04:29.27 | Arrowmaster | i dont really have much of a use for a phone |
| 04:29.27 | TMcMahon51 | @Arrowmaster It's probably still better than my craptastic KrzrK1M. >.< |
| 04:48.40 | Xinhuan | Arrowmaster, did you find a room yet |
| 04:49.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah gona share one with TC |
| 04:49.14 | Trela | I need to book that flight... |
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| 04:49.37 | Xinhuan | cos i'm alone in a room supposedly big enough to squeeze 4 ppl =.= |
| 04:49.47 | Arrowmaster | seriously? |
| 04:49.50 | Arrowmaster | where? |
| 04:49.57 | Thunder_Child | squeeze != fit |
| 04:50.01 | Xinhuan | candy cane inn |
| 04:50.26 | Xinhuan | well there's definitely 2 beds |
| 04:50.29 | Kraps | http://www.amazon.com/Sid-Meiers-Civilization-V-Pc/dp/B0038TT8QM/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1286081393&sr=1-1 2 and a half stars |
| 04:50.34 | TMcMahon51 | that place looks nice. how far from the convention center is it? |
| 04:50.42 | Xinhuan | less than 1 km |
| 04:50.57 | Xinhuan | just google maps it |
| 04:51.04 | TMcMahon51 | nice. I'm thinking of hitting up Blizzcon next year, so bookmarking it. =) |
| 04:51.05 | Thunder_Child | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=candycane+inn&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=52.550571,114.169922&ie=UTF8&hq=candycane+inn&hnear=&ll=33.803186,-117.897978&spn=0.054418,0.111494&z=14&iwloc=A |
| 04:51.07 | Thunder_Child | meh |
| 04:51.16 | Thunder_Child | stupid long links |
| 04:51.35 | Xinhuan | its pretty damn close |
| 04:51.50 | Xinhuan | somewhere between the location of the UI dinner |
| 04:51.54 | Xinhuan | and the convention |
| 04:52.10 | Arrowmaster | if TC wants to save money and we 3 share the room i dont mind |
| 04:52.34 | Thunder_Child | Xinhuan: standard/deluxe/or premium? |
| 04:52.40 | Xinhuan | standard |
| 04:52.55 | Thunder_Child | i have no issues with that |
| 04:53.00 | Xinhuan | http://www.candycaneinn.net/ |
| 04:53.06 | Thunder_Child | i do wonder at the trundle bed prices however |
| 04:53.27 | Thunder_Child | or do they mean 2 to a bed |
| 04:53.28 | Xinhuan | i seriously couldn't really find any place that only offered 1-bed rooms |
| 04:53.33 | Thunder_Child | to get in 4 people |
| 04:53.36 | Xinhuan | its always 2-beds |
| 04:53.41 | Xinhuan | and each bed is big enough for 2 |
| 04:54.25 | Kraps | starcraft has 3 stars wtf |
| 04:54.29 | Thunder_Child | uhhh.. Xinhuan. that place hase single beds....they just happen to be more expensive |
| 04:54.35 | Thunder_Child | hs* |
| 04:54.39 | Thunder_Child | has* |
| 04:54.42 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 04:54.42 | purl | takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down Thunder_Child's throat until Thunder_Child puts on 150lbs |
| 04:54.46 | Xinhuan | that's the point isn't it |
| 04:55.01 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: what day are you ariving and leaving? |
| 04:55.27 | Xinhuan | i should be arriving at 11am LAX airport on 20 (wed) |
| 04:55.47 | Xinhuan | and leaving right after blizzcon on sunday before non |
| 04:55.49 | Xinhuan | noon |
| 04:55.51 | Xinhuan | (on sunday) |
| 04:56.07 | Arrowmaster | ok so when i arrive at 10am on thursday i wouldnt have to wait to checkin |
| 04:56.28 | Xinhuan | i don't have a clue how to get there from the airport though |
| 04:56.34 | Xinhuan | short of an expensive cab ride |
| 04:56.40 | Arrowmaster | get a shuttle |
| 04:56.48 | Arrowmaster | you DO NOT want to get a cab |
| 04:56.51 | Thunder_Child | http://www.candycaneinn.net/files/289/Princess%20Jasmine%20Dancing.jpg that is a rather creepy image |
| 04:57.00 | Xinhuan | when are your dates |
| 04:57.16 | Xinhuan | and how do shuttles work |
| 04:57.23 | Arrowmaster | arrive at 10am 21st, leave at 1pm 24th |
| 04:57.29 | Thunder_Child | if it was the thursday i could drive you there, but i am working on wed |
| 04:57.48 | Xinhuan | know anyone arriving on wed? hehe |
| 04:57.50 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: sleep on TC's couch the first night |
| 04:58.13 | Arrowmaster | jk |
| 04:58.18 | Thunder_Child | heh, that one i cant do |
| 04:58.21 | Seerah | Xinhuan: http://www.supershuttle.com/ |
| 04:58.26 | Arrowmaster | you dont have a couch? |
| 04:58.33 | Thunder_Child | actually no |
| 04:59.33 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: my mom was just in anaheim for a convention at the convention center and said she paid for the shuttle at the airport and it took her to the hotel, and then when she left she called up and paid for it with her credit card by phone and they picked her up |
| 04:59.54 | Seerah | you can book for round trip online |
| 05:00.07 | Arrowmaster | i dont think she used the super shuttle though but a different one |
| 05:00.09 | Xinhuan | so the one seerah linked is one of many shuttles, or that's the one i should use? |
| 05:00.21 | Seerah | $10 from SNA to our hotel. 2 years ago, I think it was $12 or $13 from LAX |
| 05:00.30 | Seerah | that's the one you shoudl use :) |
| 05:00.45 | Seerah | (those rates are one-way, btw) |
| 05:00.58 | Seerah | if you search for a coupon code, you can find one for $3 |
| 05:00.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah from what my mom heard its over $30 for a cab from SNA to the hilton |
| 05:01.04 | Xinhuan | well that's literally 10x cheaper than a cab |
| 05:01.17 | Thunder_Child | Xinhuan: did you make sure to get a AAA discount? |
| 05:01.22 | Arrowmaster | cab from LAX is probably going to be way more |
| 05:01.28 | Xinhuan | i don't know what an AAA is, TC |
| 05:01.44 | Thunder_Child | nvm then |
| 05:01.45 | Xinhuan | i live 12 hours away from you |
| 05:01.55 | Xinhuan | or maybe 16 hours |
| 05:01.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:01.58 | Arrowmaster | he lives on the other side of the world |
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| 05:02.04 | Xinhuan | its 1pm now for me ^_^ |
| 05:02.12 | Arrowmaster | 12 hours from me |
| 05:02.15 | Arrowmaster | 1am here |
| 05:02.20 | Thunder_Child | 9 hours from me |
| 05:02.30 | Thunder_Child | which is pst |
| 05:02.33 | Arrowmaster | just timezones though, flight time is much longer |
| 05:02.33 | Xinhuan | so you're somewhere on PST |
| 05:02.47 | Xinhuan | that, or you're in britain (GMT) |
| 05:03.10 | Xinhuan | flight time is 18 hours zzzz |
| 05:03.26 | Arrowmaster | bring a book collection |
| 05:03.28 | Xinhuan | 6 hours + 11 hours with a 2 hour transit |
| 05:03.39 | Thunder_Child | i want an 18 hour flight |
| 05:03.54 | Xinhuan | there's one, but it costs $600 more because its singapore airlines |
| 05:03.55 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: where is your layover? |
| 05:03.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 05:04.03 | Xinhuan | narita airport |
| 05:04.09 | Xinhuan | tokyo |
| 05:04.13 | kd3 | ooh, narita. fun times to be had there |
| 05:04.26 | Xinhuan | singapore -> NRT -> LAX |
| 05:05.50 | Xinhuan | the shuttle website says it'll cost $16, awesome |
| 05:06.02 | Arrowmaster | DAY -> DFW -> SNA for me |
| 05:06.34 | Arrowmaster | it is fucking impossible to get a single flight trip out of dayton ohio unless you are going to one of the major hubs |
| 05:06.37 | Thunder_Child | LA -> I-10 -> hotel for me |
| 05:06.49 | Xinhuan | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 05:06.49 | purl | resizes Thunder_Child's terminal to 40x24 |
| 05:06.57 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 05:07.06 | Thunder_Child | nods sagely @ Xinhuan |
| 05:07.42 | Thunder_Child | ok, so i emailed the candy cane inn a few questions about trundle beds, wifi and parking. since i could not find it on their site. |
| 05:08.03 | Thunder_Child | oh...damn |
| 05:08.09 | Thunder_Child | now i did find some of them |
| 05:08.15 | Xinhuan | i chose that place mainly because of good reviews |
| 05:08.34 | Thunder_Child | i found 2 of the 3 questions i asked |
| 05:08.37 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 05:08.49 | Iriel | Looks like we'll have quite a crowd this year |
| 05:08.51 | Arrowmaster | which ones? |
| 05:08.57 | Iriel | many new faces |
| 05:09.01 | Thunder_Child | all of them now |
| 05:09.05 | Iriel | I shall have to practice hiding |
| 05:09.06 | Arrowmaster | lol tc |
| 05:09.08 | Thunder_Child | free wifi, rollaways are $10 |
| 05:09.12 | Thunder_Child | and parking is free |
| 05:09.34 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 05:09.35 | Arrowmaster | how are we going to fight over who gets the rollaway |
| 05:09.45 | Thunder_Child | i dont mind taking it |
| 05:09.54 | Xinhuan | you don't have a room too? lol |
| 05:10.19 | Thunder_Child | eh? i thought you were talking to me and Arrowmaster |
| 05:10.27 | Arrowmaster | yeah i thought that too |
| 05:10.45 | Xinhuan | i thought you already have a room, and Arrowmaster is jumping in |
| 05:10.50 | Xinhuan | and offered an alternative |
| 05:10.53 | Arrowmaster | <Arrowmaster> if TC wants to save money and we 3 share the room i dont mind |
| 05:10.59 | Arrowmaster | i said 3 |
| 05:11.01 | Xinhuan | aha |
| 05:11.17 | Xinhuan | when's TC's dates |
| 05:11.24 | Arrowmaster | when he feels like it |
| 05:11.24 | Thunder_Child | i drive down there |
| 05:11.31 | Thunder_Child | i live ~1 hour away |
| 05:11.47 | Xinhuan | i take it you don't acually want to drive down every day and back every night |
| 05:12.28 | Thunder_Child | worst comes to worse i can stay with my cousin in irvine, but since the parties seem to go late i really didnt want to do that |
| 05:12.36 | Arrowmaster | im working on getting tc to take me to legoland on thursday want to come too? |
| 05:12.58 | Xinhuan | i don't have anything on thurs planned yet, so perhaps |
| 05:12.59 | Thunder_Child | i thought your mother was going to kill you before you made it there |
| 05:13.18 | Arrowmaster | no probably when i get back |
| 05:13.31 | Xinhuan | Seerah, is there any need to book in advance for the shuttle |
| 05:13.51 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: for pickup from hotel i think so |
| 05:14.42 | Seerah | they have a counter at the airport. When your flight arrives, you check in. When they have a few people going to the same area, they'll send a shuttle from their waiting area to pick you up. |
| 05:15.04 | Seerah | For hotel->airport, you need to schedule a time for them to come get you. |
| 05:15.47 | Xinhuan | so that part can also be done at the arrival point? |
| 05:15.50 | Seerah | but when you book online, you can give that coupon code to save $3 |
| 05:15.56 | Xinhuan | oh |
| 05:16.15 | Seerah | not entirely sure... I don't remember if we scheduled ahead 2 years ago |
| 05:16.27 | Seerah | I know that we booked the return the night before online |
| 05:17.34 | Seerah | here ya go: http://www.retailmenot.com/view/supershuttle.com The $3 one will take $3 off each way. |
| 05:18.21 | Xinhuan | i think i can care less about $3 if my flight already costs 1.4k |
| 05:18.30 | Seerah | lol |
| 05:18.36 | Arrowmaster | thats in USD right? |
| 05:18.40 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 05:18.45 | Seerah | Technically, it'd be $6. That'll get you lunch. |
| 05:18.57 | Arrowmaster | Seerah: not in CA |
| 05:19.12 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 05:19.15 | Seerah | well... I suppose it does depend on how much and where you eat |
| 05:19.17 | Seerah | :) |
| 05:19.24 | Xinhuan | i'm estimating $15 should be enough for a meal |
| 05:19.32 | Xinhuan | we're talking about a convention center pricings |
| 05:19.48 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: you said lunch, not stomach ache |
| 05:19.52 | Seerah | $6 will at least get you one or two beverages |
| 05:20.02 | Seerah | I <3 McD's |
| 05:20.25 | Thunder_Child | assuming you dont have a tun of little umbrellas (looking at you Cairenn) you should be fine |
| 05:20.55 | Seerah | mmm... frozen adult beverages |
| 05:21.01 | Xinhuan | i'm hearing MCD is the cheapest things you can buy |
| 05:21.18 | Thunder_Child | eh, it depends what you order |
| 05:21.31 | Seerah | yeah. and location. |
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| 05:21.38 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: frozen adult bevergase that turn them into children |
| 05:21.49 | Seerah | ??? |
| 05:21.52 | Arrowmaster | i want to share a "The OMG" with somebody www.catchanaheim.com |
| 05:22.04 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: eg. your actions when you get drunk/tipsy |
| 05:22.15 | Kraps | this guy is pretty pro http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author/author-2725/worst.php |
| 05:22.17 | Seerah | ah... yeah :) |
| 05:23.17 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: thats what? 14 blocks away |
| 05:23.26 | Seerah | a ways |
| 05:23.30 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: probably |
| 05:24.00 | Thunder_Child | what is it with people and meat they have to chew for quite some time |
| 05:25.11 | Thunder_Child | $50 for lunch? |
| 05:25.21 | Thunder_Child | lol, double meat..... |
| 05:25.25 | Arrowmaster | The "OMG"? |
| 05:25.32 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 05:25.32 | Arrowmaster | its ment for at least 4 people to share |
| 05:25.45 | Thunder_Child | it's only 8 pounds though |
| 05:26.29 | Seerah | 8 pounds? That should feed 16-32 ppl |
| 05:26.48 | Thunder_Child | only 4 pounds of meat, the rest is veggies |
| 05:26.49 | Arrowmaster | ive been told they have one double the size called The "WTF" |
| 05:26.52 | Seerah | (if it's 8 pounds of meat - I admit I didn't look) |
| 05:26.54 | Seerah | ah |
| 05:27.04 | Thunder_Child | and cheese |
| 05:27.15 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: height or width? |
| 05:27.25 | Arrowmaster | not sure |
| 05:27.30 | Thunder_Child | because in height i can assume you just order the double meat options |
| 05:27.32 | Thunder_Child | option* |
| 05:28.22 | Thunder_Child | though for that kind of money i would just as soon go to todai's |
| 05:28.33 | Arrowmaster | whats that? |
| 05:28.47 | Thunder_Child | all you can eat |
| 05:28.56 | Thunder_Child | seafood and chineese food |
| 05:30.15 | Thunder_Child | and sushi |
| 05:31.21 | Arrowmaster | ive never had sushi before |
| 05:44.47 | Kraps | water looks slightly less stagnant in the new ptr patch |
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| 05:50.56 | Iriel | Now if only my worgen looked slightly less male |
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| 05:59.06 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26859116137&sid=2000 |
| 05:59.12 | Kraps | y/n |
| 06:01.11 | Xinhuan | sounds exactly like how all spell casters queue their spells |
| 06:02.04 | Seerah | that thread is still going? |
| 06:02.18 | Xinhuan | appears so |
| 06:02.48 | Seerah | I haven't had problems myself |
| 06:02.59 | Seerah | but I don't faceroll or spam my keys |
| 06:04.05 | Xinhuan | well there are a lot of situations you may want to/need to spam your keys |
| 06:04.12 | Xinhuan | particularly as melee |
| 06:04.24 | Seerah | yeah, I haven't touched my DK yet on beta |
| 06:04.28 | Xinhuan | if the boss is moving (away or towards you) |
| 06:04.32 | Asheru | So basicly you dont play a warlock or paladin eh Seerah? |
| 06:04.34 | Xinhuan | you want to spam the skill |
| 06:04.35 | Kraps | or long spellcast ---> instant |
| 06:04.35 | Asheru | ;D |
| 06:04.48 | Kraps | an a disc priest |
| 06:04.50 | Xinhuan | so that your ability goes off as soon as possible when the mob is in range |
| 06:04.52 | Kraps | as* |
| 06:05.08 | Xinhuan | so you end up casting the ability twice due to spamming it |
| 06:05.30 | Jerub | Xinhuan: i often spam my keys as a tank (warrior or bear) because i'm concentrating on targetting and mobility. |
| 06:05.37 | Asheru | Well I goto admit I use clique to spam chain heal as a resto shaman but eh... I blame blizzard for that. |
| 06:05.57 | Jerub | Xinhuan: and it's really important to be able to be reactive, like, swap from devastate/revenge/shield slam to an interrupt |
| 06:06.10 | Jerub | if i had a 1 gcd delay that'd be really annoying. |
| 06:08.33 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:A_Disarming_Distraction |
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| 06:32.23 | Kraps | Legionnaire Nazgrim yells: Thrall's balls! They're everywhere... |
| 06:32.38 | Kraps | well butter my biscuit |
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| 06:34.42 | Fisker | me me me kd3 |
| 06:35.16 | Fisker | punchs kd3 in the chest |
| 06:35.19 | Fisker | punches* |
| 06:39.11 | Fisker | morning Shadowed |
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| 07:03.14 | NeoTron | hmm. what's the name of the frame explorer dev tool |
| 07:03.42 | Iriel | framestack? |
| 07:03.56 | NeoTron | yep |
| 07:20.28 | Esamynn | oh, Dwarves have lost Find Treasure in 4.0.1? |
| 07:21.37 | stew-a | i think blizz gave up on losing treasure in 4.0.1 |
| 07:21.46 | Fisker | it was changed to boost archaeology i think |
| 07:22.11 | Esamynn | fine by me |
| 07:24.58 | mikma | <3 <3 charcopy my lvl70 nelf priest into beta and transfered it to gnome <3 <3 |
| 07:38.26 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_100310_103527.jpg |
| 07:38.54 | zenzelezz | she looks startled |
| 07:39.23 | mikma | that can be arranged too |
| 07:40.01 | mikma | now there's a reason to play my priest in cata :D |
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| 07:50.46 | Fisker | slaps mikma around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:51.20 | Fisker | you wouldn't play a priest |
| 07:53.57 | mikma | i would |
| 07:54.36 | Fisker | whoa didn't know that |
| 07:57.11 | zenzelezz | what has been seen can not be unseen: http://squee.icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/01/cute-baby-animals-calm-down-already-geez/ |
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| 09:05.32 | mikma | cairenn: http://mikma.eu/baby/vauva2.avi |
| 09:07.21 | Cairenn | OMG! |
| 09:07.27 | Cairenn | beautiful |
| 09:07.35 | Cairenn | absolutely beautiful :) |
| 09:09.02 | zenzelezz | something tells me that's neither feline nor canine... how can it be entertaining then? :( |
| 09:13.19 | nevcairiel | the head position looks somewhat unhealthy |
| 09:15.04 | Cairenn | it does look uncomfortable, doesn't it? |
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| 09:15.59 | Avis | Whats the best way to reverse a lua table ? |
| 09:16.17 | nevcairiel | "reverse"? |
| 09:17.17 | jnwhiteh | mikma: <3 |
| 09:18.11 | zenzelezz | Avis: reverse the order of the content? |
| 09:18.34 | Avis | yeah, make the first key last, etc |
| 09:19.57 | mikma | cairenn: yeah but that's the position she always takes, don't know why :P |
| 09:20.13 | zenzelezz | it worries me that I just envisioned writing a container class in C++ where unary minus operator would reverse the order of the contents |
| 09:20.48 | jnwhiteh | local newtable = {}; for idx,v in ipairs(oldtable) do newtable[#oldtable + 1 - k] = v end end |
| 09:20.53 | jnwhiteh | something like that? |
| 09:21.18 | nevcairiel | i would've just done something like for i=#oldtable,1,-1 do |
| 09:21.23 | nevcairiel | but sure, works :) |
| 09:23.26 | Jamash | create a metatable that reverses the indices |
| 09:27.01 | mikma | cairenn: http://mikma.eu/baby/IMG_4387.JPG |
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| 09:33.06 | Cairenn | mikma :) |
| 09:37.45 | Avis | so many tables, I may have nightmares about them lol |
| 09:37.59 | Avis | but now I can sort buffs \o/ |
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| 10:04.17 | krka_ | for i=1,#t/2 do j=#t-i+1 t[i],t[j]=t[j],t[i] end |
| 10:05.10 | Humbedooh | I'm apalled, mikma! |
| 10:05.21 | Humbedooh | that ought to be moomin art on the duvet! |
| 10:05.31 | Humbedooh | moomins I tell you! |
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| 10:24.43 | harl | hi there |
| 10:30.18 | jnwhiteh | My Lego Harry Potter is broken =( |
| 10:30.24 | jnwhiteh | I can't enable any of the extras |
| 10:30.29 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 10:31.33 | haste | at first I thought you had built a happy potter model with legos |
| 10:31.50 | haste | HAPPY POTTER! |
| 10:32.02 | TMcMahon51 | Legos make it all the happier! |
| 10:37.15 | mikma | humbedooh: duvet? |
| 10:39.10 | mikma | humbedooh: oh right. well the moomins are in the sideprotectors already |
| 10:39.44 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 10:39.51 | Fisker | lego harry potter |
| 10:41.02 | Humbedooh | good, good |
| 10:41.11 | Humbedooh | kids need moomins |
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| 10:48.11 | mikma | humbedooh: well you can see them in the picture ii linked to cairenn |
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| 10:53.33 | Humbedooh | you're right! |
| 10:53.39 | Humbedooh | I see a muumipeikko! |
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| 11:26.04 | mikma | humbedooh: =) |
| 11:26.20 | mikma | i just bought cata & cata ce |
| 11:33.32 | foxlit | s/bought/preordered/ |
| 11:34.43 | stew-a | the CE at £60 when the normal edition is £18 seems a little expensive |
| 11:35.27 | Xinhuan | 3x? lol |
| 11:35.47 | stew-a | also the digital TBC / WotLK upgrade at $30/40 respectively seems expensive compared to the retail version from amazon at $20/30 respectively |
| 11:36.13 | mikma | foxlit: bought. cause i paid it and now i am waiting ;) |
| 11:36.20 | Xinhuan | because the digital version always has to take the price of the highest region's retail price |
| 11:36.22 | foxlit | No |
| 11:36.30 | foxlit | It's "bought" if you exchanged money for merchandise |
| 11:36.37 | foxlit | You've exchanged money for the promise of mechandise :) |
| 11:37.06 | mikma | i got a little strip of paper in exchange |
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| 11:37.47 | Xinhuan | due to distribution costs, retail prices differ from region to region |
| 11:38.23 | nevcairiel | I wish the digital copy of cata would unlock at midnight, would be so much more relaxing :p |
| 11:38.37 | Xinhuan | if not distributors would complain about being undercut |
| 11:39.45 | mikma | whats the predicted date of release now |
| 11:40.00 | Xinhuan | dec 7 |
| 11:40.12 | mikma | which is, friday? |
| 11:40.13 | nevcairiel | I wonder how people made that the day |
| 11:40.16 | Xinhuan | tuesday |
| 11:40.19 | nevcairiel | could as well be some other day in that week |
| 11:40.21 | mikma | cool. |
| 11:40.29 | nevcairiel | or another week |
| 11:40.34 | nevcairiel | its all just speculation :p |
| 11:40.38 | mikma | which means i will be at work (propably) on the next day |
| 11:41.08 | mikma | winter is always tough times for demolition-team ;/ |
| 11:48.43 | Fisker | nevcairiel because of the blue pl0x statements |
| 11:48.49 | Fisker | also the official site |
| 11:49.42 | Fisker | i.e. the PTR build said Season 9 would start aproximately a week after release, Season 9 was datamined to start December 14th, which then meant December 7th for release, or 12,7% as one of the official site mentions |
| 11:53.43 | nevcairiel | You know what aproximately means? |
| 11:54.10 | haste | half way through the beta queue! |
| 11:54.20 | Fisker | You know what "I wonder how people made that the day" means? |
| 11:54.20 | nevcairiel | i better dont logout then! |
| 11:54.29 | Fisker | I told you how people got to that date |
| 11:54.29 | haste | nevcairiel: 1600 when I started 30min ago |
| 11:54.32 | Fisker | i didn't say it was accurate |
| 11:54.33 | haste | ETA: 60 min |
| 11:54.35 | haste | :V |
| 11:54.41 | nevcairiel | that was my whole point |
| 11:54.50 | nevcairiel | people are marking it as THE DAY |
| 11:54.58 | nevcairiel | without even mentioning that they are just pulling facts our of their ass |
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| 12:24.31 | jnwhiteh | do I want the cata CE? |
| 12:25.20 | stew-a | what exactly is the point of a CE since almost everybody opens them up and actually uses them when they get them |
| 12:26.27 | nevcairiel | the stuff in it, i guess |
| 12:26.31 | nevcairiel | i never bothered with wow ces |
| 12:26.55 | stew-a | an art book and a digital pet and a fancy box = more then 3x the price? :P |
| 12:27.16 | jnwhiteh | i have BC/WoTLK |
| 12:27.20 | jnwhiteh | I didn't get classic |
| 12:27.23 | jnwhiteh | so I should just quit =) |
| 12:27.43 | jnwhiteh | Have paypal orders for Curse gone out this month yet? |
| 12:27.53 | jnwhiteh | Wondering if I should just do that to buy my Kindle |
| 12:29.36 | jnwhiteh | Anyone have SC2 EU? |
| 12:30.34 | jnwhiteh | or I could work on Clique |
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| 12:43.45 | mikma | jnwhiteh: code note-addon with me |
| 12:44.38 | jnwhiteh | what? |
| 12:45.15 | mikma | note-addon |
| 12:45.47 | Humbedooh | any wowace sysops awake? |
| 12:45.53 | mikma | jnwhiteh: step 1) write something to remember, step 2) select option to show: pvp, in town, in instance, when merchant open ... |
| 12:46.04 | jnwhiteh | yeah not gonna happen |
| 12:46.10 | jnwhiteh | sorry =) |
| 12:46.16 | mikma | loser! |
| 12:50.02 | foxlit | wtb 4.0.1 soon |
| 12:57.11 | Humbedooh | wtb Repo working soon |
| 13:02.26 | olafski | nevcairiel: I would like that digital download unlocking too.. though if it's 12:00 instead of 0:00 I still won't mind :) |
| 13:09.58 | Fisker | any #mmo-champion on quakenet sysops awake? |
| 13:10.30 | Bibi | your question doesn't make sense |
| 13:11.49 | nevcairiel | olafski: its supposed to happen at 10am, or so |
| 13:11.55 | Fisker | what do you mean? |
| 13:12.11 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: paypal went out a few days ago |
| 13:12.12 | Fisker | i wonder how you came up with that nevcairiel |
| 13:12.17 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: oh damnit. |
| 13:12.20 | nevcairiel | Fisker: blue said it |
| 13:12.26 | Fisker | damn |
| 13:12.30 | jnwhiteh | then I guess I'm at the mercy of waiting for amazon certs =( |
| 13:12.32 | Fisker | something must have happened the last 30 minutes or so |
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| 13:26.29 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/i_love_realism.jpg |
| 13:27.12 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/super_mario_bros_coin_sound.jpg |
| 13:35.24 | cide_ | hi |
| 13:35.43 | Humbedooh | oh hi |
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| 13:36.48 | cide_ | hi Shirik |
| 13:37.31 | Zasurus | Sorry don't know if my last msg got sent I got disconnected. :-( So Is there a way to undo the InterfaceOptions_AddCategory() function? As in remove the options pannel so I can change it and add a new copy? |
| 13:43.36 | Jerub | bibi predicts 4.0.1 landing this week... |
| 13:43.40 | nevcairiel | Is it just me, or is the harrison jones quest series in uldum bugged? I see the guy standing there, and when i get closer, he vanishes .. |
| 13:44.30 | nevcairiel | Jerub: bibi is just nuts, they'll never patch before the end of the arena season |
| 13:44.35 | nevcairiel | which is next week |
| 13:45.11 | Xinhuan | is end of season confirmed? |
| 13:45.21 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:45.22 | Xinhuan | or only a "might be ending on that date" |
| 13:45.26 | nevcairiel | its confirmed |
| 13:45.35 | mikma | its confused |
| 13:47.15 | olafski | nevcairiel: oh great! |
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| 13:47.35 | foxlit | Zasurus: no. Also, weird behavior. |
| 13:48.01 | foxlit | nevcairiel: there are some definite bugs there, but perhaps not the one you're describing |
| 13:48.48 | nevcairiel | I jumped down into that big structure, after the npc did |
| 13:48.50 | Zasurus | foxlit: K thanks Weird behavior? |
| 13:48.58 | nevcairiel | i saw him standing there while falling |
| 13:49.01 | nevcairiel | but when i landed, he was gone |
| 13:49.25 | foxlit | Yes. Removing a configuration panel is weird. |
| 13:49.33 | nevcairiel | and, i'm at like 60 quests in uldum done, and i dont have any other, except this one |
| 13:49.35 | nevcairiel | so, shrug |
| 13:49.43 | nevcairiel | annoying =p |
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| 13:51.06 | Zasurus | Arr I wanted to add an option into anther addon (a kinda fix addon) without changing the original addon as I was sick of doing it every time it changed but my ticket has gone unanswered (guess he's busy! ;-)) |
| 13:51.30 | nevcairiel | I found some quest starting item, some rope, but apparently i dont meet the requirements to start it |
| 13:52.03 | olafski | may have to take that day off now nevcairiel ;p |
| 13:52.35 | Zasurus | foxlit: What about updating the options panel? |
| 13:53.00 | Zasurus | Like adding a few tickboxes etc to an existing option panel |
| 13:53.42 | nevcairiel | that somewhat depends on how you made your panel |
| 13:53.45 | nevcairiel | but surely thats possible |
| 13:53.59 | foxlit | But why wouldn't those checkboxes be there at the start? :) |
| 13:54.58 | nevcairiel | hey now uldum world server died, yay =P |
| 13:55.22 | olafski | can we preorder cata from blizzard yet? :[ |
| 13:55.25 | Zasurus | Because the addon isn't mine. I want to create a fix that I don't need to add every time the original author updates there addon and I download the update. If I create another addon that depends on the original it therefore starts after it |
| 13:55.34 | Zasurus | olafski: Yer |
| 13:55.34 | Humbedooh | all servers died ;< |
| 13:55.42 | Zasurus | well from play.com |
| 13:55.56 | olafski | that's not from blizzard is it :P |
| 13:56.12 | Zasurus | Yer realised what you wanted after first reply ;-) |
| 13:56.47 | olafski | i just want it added to my bnet account, no dvds or anything :] |
| 13:56.59 | Zasurus | I see |
| 13:57.33 | Zasurus | Makes sence.. did they let you preorder starcraft2? |
| 13:58.06 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 13:58.15 | Zasurus | I would have thought as it is just a electronic copy and you will have already downloaded the data via the normal client you won't need to wait anyway |
| 13:58.15 | nevcairiel | same deal |
| 13:58.19 | nevcairiel | could download the installer |
| 13:58.27 | nevcairiel | and once it was unlocked, you could actually install it ;9 |
| 13:58.43 | Zasurus | foxlit/nevcairiel |
| 13:59.07 | Zasurus | soz lol ment to say the pannel was added using AceConfigDialog |
| 13:59.40 | nevcairiel | the easiest way would be to just sneak some options in its option table then |
| 13:59.42 | Zasurus | If I tell AceConfigDialog to add the pannel again it adds a second copy but updates the first aswell! LOL |
| 14:00.37 | Zasurus | Yer tried that the addon sends the original pannel before my addon loads and also the original options table is local to the .lua file :-( |
| 14:00.41 | Fisker | i once nevcairiel'd a olafski |
| 14:01.36 | Zasurus | Guess I will just be stuck with a dupicate pannel... :-( Thanks anyway guys :-) |
| 14:02.29 | foxlit | [You could just add your own checkbox widget to someone else's panel] |
| 14:03.00 | olafski | sounds good nevcairiel .. as long as I don't have to wait for some delivery guy it's all good |
| 14:03.08 | olafski | be nice to make that a long weekend |
| 14:03.13 | foxlit | Without going through any libraries; though addons patching addons is a little odd |
| 14:03.32 | olafski | sounds like C# extension methods ;) |
| 14:04.08 | Zasurus | foxlit: I am odd ;-) how would I go about adding it to someone elses panel then? Can we access the table directly? |
| 14:05.05 | foxlit | The frame probably has a predictable name; failing that, ui options framework must know it exists |
| 14:05.22 | Zasurus | K thanks I will go have a dig |
| 14:12.37 | Humbedooh | hmmm |
| 14:12.53 | Humbedooh | if I make a texture and set a point and width/height etc |
| 14:13.12 | Humbedooh | and then later, I move the texture, it should erase whatever was drawn at the original spot, right? |
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| 14:30.19 | haste | Fisker: you better be online on beta! |
| 14:31.59 | mikma | what's going on, eh? |
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| 14:33.01 | cbreak | Humbedooh: it won't erase anything |
| 14:33.25 | cbreak | because the whole screen gets repainted every time |
| 14:34.15 | Humbedooh | ye well it started painting an awful lot of stuff on my screen suddenly ;p |
| 14:34.24 | Humbedooh | but it seems to have gone away again for some reason |
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| 14:37.23 | Kraps | hey, 13131 is "release" |
| 14:41.35 | nevcairiel | yes yes, they disabled assertions |
| 14:43.04 | Zasurus | foxlit: THANKS! :-) I found it and removed the panel I wanted then I could just add the new copy in the same way the original addon did! :-) For anyone interested the table that all of the interface-addons panels are stored is: INTERFACEOPTIONS_ADDONCATEGORIES |
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| 14:50.53 | Humbedooh | mr. nevcairiel! |
| 14:51.09 | Humbedooh | or some other wowace admin thingy |
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| 15:07.54 | Kraps | when you are in combat, even if you're not doing anything, standing in the water causes ripples |
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| 15:14.13 | Fisker | i just fucked you up haste |
| 15:14.23 | Fisker | i was playing TEE EFF TOO |
| 15:17.08 | Fisker | what are you going to do about that haste ? |
| 15:17.25 | Stanzilla | Kraps: most fucked up thing is the waterfall in sw running through fire |
| 15:17.26 | Thunder_Child | i'm going to go with......ignore you |
| 15:18.10 | Kraps | Stanzilla: waterfall? |
| 15:18.18 | Stanzilla | were the park was |
| 15:18.24 | Stanzilla | there is water running down the wall |
| 15:18.26 | Stanzilla | into fire |
| 15:19.19 | Fisker | u mad Stanzilla |
| 15:19.26 | Stanzilla | yes :( |
| 15:19.28 | Fisker | naw Thunder_Child |
| 15:20.37 | TC-Work | yes Fisker |
| 15:21.24 | Kraps | cool :p |
| 15:21.45 | Fisker | naw TC-Work |
| 15:23.01 | Thunder_Child | yes Fisker |
| 15:24.31 | haste | Fisker: get online and invite me! |
| 15:25.16 | Thunder_Child | and me, but make sure i am on the other team |
| 15:25.20 | Thunder_Child | so i can kill you |
| 15:31.03 | Kraps | mee too |
| 15:32.01 | Fisker | naw Thunder_Child |
| 15:32.11 | Fisker | i would if i could haste |
| 15:32.25 | Fisker | unfortunately Blizzard were a bunch of jerks and invited a lot of people |
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| 15:32.50 | haste | this is your fault Fisker ! |
| 15:32.58 | Fisker | no |
| 15:33.03 | Fisker | ask megalon |
| 15:33.04 | haste | yes |
| 15:33.08 | haste | megalon isn't here! |
| 15:33.49 | Fisker | well kill him then |
| 15:35.00 | haste | no, you are the source! |
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| 15:36.18 | Fierceflame | Hey ^^ |
| 15:36.52 | Fierceflame | I'll need help once again xD |
| 15:39.28 | Fierceflame | The problem is that in the loop that compares the saved gearset to the current gearset it'll also enable PvP when the gearset is different, while it shouldn't, according to my logic :S |
| 15:39.32 | Fierceflame | Code: http://toptop18.pastey.net/141131/103:104:105:106:107:108:109:110:111:112:113:114:115:116:117:118:119:120 |
| 15:39.44 | Fierceflame | The problem is in the highlighted lines |
| 15:41.06 | haste | if a == true then, is pretty much the same as if a then |
| 15:41.16 | haste | unless you can have other true values of a, that you need to avoid being true |
| 15:41.18 | Humbedooh | mkay |
| 15:41.30 | Humbedooh | that's a silly way ot comparing things, Fierceflame :) |
| 15:41.41 | Humbedooh | basically, if the _last_ item differs, it'll enable pvp and only then |
| 15:41.52 | Fierceflame | Couldn't think up a better way :P |
| 15:42.01 | Fierceflame | Why? |
| 15:42.07 | Humbedooh | basically, you do this |
| 15:42.24 | Fierceflame | Thought it would break the loop when oen item differs |
| 15:42.26 | Humbedooh | for items do: if item1 = item2, then blarg = true, else blarg = false |
| 15:43.00 | Humbedooh | you should simplify it :) |
| 15:43.03 | Fierceflame | No, if blarg is false then break the loop |
| 15:43.03 | Humbedooh | hmm lemme see |
| 15:43.15 | Fierceflame | line 137 |
| 15:43.51 | Shirik | Are we seriously using "blarg" as a metasyntactic variable? |
| 15:44.00 | Fierceflame | Yep :P |
| 15:44.05 | Fierceflame | Not in the addon ofcourse :P |
| 15:44.26 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: could be worse |
| 15:44.36 | Fierceflame | Next time i'll use Shirik instead of blarg then ^^ |
| 15:44.45 | Humbedooh | you could start by adding some debug prints in your comparisons, Fierceflame |
| 15:44.47 | Shirik | you should use Foo, Bar, Baz, Quux |
| 15:44.55 | Thunder_Child | also Shirik, did you see that linky about the B&W timelapse video? |
| 15:44.59 | Shirik | no |
| 15:45.03 | Humbedooh | so you'll know where it compares what and what the outcome is |
| 15:45.06 | Shirik | and I can't right now |
| 15:45.10 | Shirik | no bandwidth on a blackberry |
| 15:45.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5648845/black-and-white-hdr-video-looks-like-an-artists-moving-sketches |
| 15:45.17 | Thunder_Child | watch it, it's amazing |
| 15:45.22 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 15:45.25 | Thunder_Child | FAILURE! |
| 15:45.38 | Fierceflame | Humbedooh, will try and report back in a few ^^ |
| 15:46.29 | Humbedooh | where is FF_EnablePvP_Variable_GearsetOn declared? |
| 15:46.32 | Humbedooh | I can't seem to locate it |
| 15:46.45 | Humbedooh | err not that one |
| 15:46.52 | Humbedooh | FF_EnablePvP_Variable_GearsetEquipped |
| 15:47.07 | Humbedooh | or nvm |
| 15:47.09 | cbreak | that guy has zero clue what HDR means |
| 15:47.10 | Humbedooh | I'm being blind |
| 15:47.28 | Humbedooh | though, you might wanna add "local" to that variable |
| 15:49.36 | cbreak | that "HDR" movie looks range compressed to oblivion |
| 15:49.56 | cbreak | must be the image version of the loudness war on contemporary music |
| 15:50.38 | Thunder_Child | actualy cbreak, if youread he even mentions it should not be possible since he uses the same shot twice |
| 15:50.48 | cbreak | I know |
| 15:50.57 | cbreak | he writes it should not be possible |
| 15:51.03 | cbreak | I say: that's because it IS not possible |
| 15:51.15 | cbreak | you can do range compression even with one image |
| 15:51.19 | cbreak | but that doesn't make it HDR |
| 15:51.19 | Humbedooh | http://toptop18.pastey.net/141132 |
| 15:51.25 | Humbedooh | for Fierceflame |
| 15:51.41 | Thunder_Child | except thats not what PS's batch file thingy does afaik |
| 15:53.28 | Adys | anyone messed with talent tree apis on the beta? |
| 15:54.06 | Fierceflame | Humbedooh, that's indeed a lot cleaner, still ahve to improve the code ^^ |
| 15:54.12 | Fierceflame | Will try if that works now |
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| 15:59.46 | amro | Adys: I messed with your sister on the beta |
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| 16:00.02 | Adys | I know you did... I know you did |
| 16:00.42 | Thunder_Child | yea, but she wasnt finished yet |
| 16:00.55 | haste | I don't know what happened, but I suddenly have 200FPS flying around uldum :o |
| 16:01.14 | amro | haste: read up what happened. |
| 16:01.30 | Fierceflame | Humbedooh, Still not working but found why |
| 16:01.54 | Fierceflame | When you press the button for the other gearset, it takes a while for you to equip the new equipment |
| 16:02.02 | Fierceflame | So I need a small delay there me thinks |
| 16:02.09 | haste | amro: too much text! |
| 16:02.27 | amro | haste: no, just 3 lines above yours |
| 16:02.45 | haste | don't think that's related |
| 16:03.00 | Thunder_Child | thats what she said |
| 16:03.12 | mikma | 18:59 >> RJohn [~Tanner@h123.65.149.24.cable.rdwd.jetbroadband.com] has joined #wowuidev |
| 16:03.53 | amro | what's red john doing here? |
| 16:04.07 | Shirik | Red John Standing By |
| 16:04.41 | Fierceflame | HUH |
| 16:05.03 | Fierceflame | I shouldn;t need a delay as I'm using the EQUIPMENT_SWAP_FINSIHED event :S |
| 16:05.13 | Fierceflame | But why doesn't that fire after it's finished xD |
| 16:09.16 | Fierceflame | Anyone knows a solutions to that? :S |
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| 16:20.39 | olafski | shirik: :D |
| 16:20.51 | Shirik | :D |
| 16:21.03 | olafski | red october standing by |
| 16:21.32 | Shirik | I'm glad at least one person got it |
| 16:23.35 | Shirik | ok google translate is getting a little too good |
| 16:23.46 | Shirik | nevcairiel, is this proper german? Shutter - Ein funktionsreiches Werkzeug zur Erstellung von Bildschirmfotos |
| 16:23.55 | Shirik | google translated it to english flawlessly |
| 16:24.00 | Shirik | which kinda scared me |
| 16:24.39 | foxlit | claim based on no actual knowledge: German is actually a nice language to translate from |
| 16:25.04 | Thunder_Child | i think it's more of a comment on google translte than german |
| 16:25.11 | Thunder_Child | translate* |
| 16:25.16 | Shirik | It also managed "New! The Perl 6-pack with all editions of Perl 6 tutorial. For only 35,00 â¬" which is excellent, only mistake I see being the inappropriate sentence break |
| 16:25.20 | haste | http://groups.google.com/group/shibboleth-users/browse_thread/thread/123bd2d82822a3a7?pli=1 comes to mind |
| 16:25.53 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:26.29 | Cide | not precise the vomit |
| 16:27.04 | haste | is vomited concealed in fold ofgoat-time lumber? |
| 16:27.09 | Fisker | haste still in game? |
| 16:27.33 | haste | yes |
| 16:28.09 | Fisker | whisper me |
| 16:28.25 | haste | in a cinematic! |
| 16:28.28 | haste | but I did |
| 16:31.55 | amro | Shirik: I did get it |
| 16:32.00 | amro | but family guy fails |
| 16:32.09 | amro | although that movie was good |
| 16:34.02 | Fisker | anyone else needs invites on the horde ui guild? |
| 16:34.13 | amro | and btw, you don't need google translate to go from german to english, just an aggressive spellchecker |
| 16:37.21 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:42.12 | nevcairiel | Shirik: translating screenshot is always a bit weird, imho, but its proper otherwise |
| 16:42.41 | nevcairiel | (we use alot of english words when talking about computer things) |
| 16:43.38 | Gnarfoz | normal translations probably would leave half of that sentence untranslated |
| 16:44.04 | Gnarfoz | Bildschirmfoto is just so... clunky |
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| 16:46.36 | Kraps | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/2068-Project-Ten-Dollar |
| 16:48.11 | foxlit | All in all, I'm not impressed by that series. |
| 16:50.50 | Kraps | haters gonna hate |
| 16:50.54 | Kraps | :p |
| 16:51.55 | mikma | i hate haters |
| 16:52.12 | foxlit | that can only lead to one of two conclusions |
| 16:52.18 | foxlit | you either hate yourself, or there are no haters. |
| 16:54.54 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/767691-Worgen-Female-looks-mini-update ah yes, the LSD eyes are gone |
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| 17:02.33 | amro | first comment, boobs are huge! |
| 17:02.51 | amro | why is blizzard indulging them >< |
| 17:03.20 | amro | "the face has some romantic look now" |
| 17:03.25 | amro | closing that thread |
| 17:03.48 | Kraps | "im a guy and those boobs need deflated, as they are now im pretty sure she had a 100% block chance... without a shield." |
| 17:04.02 | nevcairiel | they are really huge |
| 17:04.39 | Adys | it's perspective |
| 17:04.43 | Thunder_Child | but then again all the femail models have huge boobs |
| 17:04.48 | Thunder_Child | female* |
| 17:04.49 | amro | nice |
| 17:04.51 | Adys | how about "oh my god the SHOULDERPADS ARE HUGE" |
| 17:04.52 | cbreak | they look more like wolves than other generic animal female hybrids |
| 17:04.53 | amro | really nice |
| 17:05.04 | Adys | seriously |
| 17:05.07 | cbreak | but only two breats. strange. |
| 17:05.11 | Adys | who in here knows shoulderpads three times the size of your head? |
| 17:05.37 | amro | I think my DK has them |
| 17:05.44 | amro | as in, 3 times bigger than his head |
| 17:05.54 | Kraps | male worgen dk |
| 17:06.06 | amro | human |
| 17:06.11 | nevcairiel | all worgen plate is kinda silly |
| 17:06.25 | foxlit | The screenshot function should really be disabled unless you have FSAA set to 4x or something |
| 17:06.32 | amro | at least you don't have thrall on your shoulder |
| 17:07.26 | Fisker | new shaman t11 amro ? |
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| 17:09.06 | Kraps | looking at the character creation screen, males look insanely more feral that the female |
| 17:09.44 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:09.46 | amro | kraps is more feral when looking at the female |
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| 17:10.10 | Kraps | males also open their mouth when attacking |
| 17:10.23 | amro | now you're just asking for it |
| 17:10.44 | Adys | :/ |
| 17:11.45 | Kraps | worgen female dont get a bare midriff |
| 17:12.48 | Kraps | waits for amro |
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| 17:15.27 | amro | too easy |
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| 17:25.42 | Fisker | cog|away |
| 17:25.45 | Fisker | stay with me |
| 17:27.56 | Fisker | haha Ackis |
| 17:28.14 | Fisker | you can't draw penises with an xbox |
| 17:29.53 | cbreak | Fisker: is that the reason for microsoft banning all the gaylords? |
| 17:30.30 | Fisker | maybe |
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| 17:37.52 | Fierceflame | Why isn't the correct data about gear available after EQUIPMENT_SWAP_FINISHED event :S |
| 17:44.34 | nevcairiel | I wish there was a way the secure environment would react to some events |
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| 17:45.58 | Kraps | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/10/01/BAR61FN4GC.DTL&tsp=1 |
| 17:52.53 | foxlit | nevcairiel: state handlers, yeah? |
| 17:53.41 | foxlit | I'm thinking that pretty much every "safe" event would be reflected by a macro conditional change |
| 17:54.00 | nevcairiel | only events that make sense in a macro |
| 17:54.21 | nevcairiel | i want ACTIONBAR_SHOWGRID and HIDEGRID, so i can truely show/hide my custom action buttons |
| 17:55.07 | foxlit | [why are those even events?] |
| 17:55.11 | nevcairiel | now i'm stuck alpha'ing them to 0 =( |
| 17:55.41 | nevcairiel | how else would you be notified when something ends up on the cursor? |
| 17:55.53 | foxlit | CURSOR_UPDATE or something |
| 17:56.40 | foxlit | But okay, point taken. |
| 17:57.02 | nevcairiel | I could hide them when they are empty |
| 17:57.10 | nevcairiel | but .. then no dragy-dropy in combat |
| 17:57.24 | nevcairiel | not on empty buttons, anyway |
| 17:58.58 | foxlit | Hm, and no OnEnter without a mouse-enabled frame |
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| 18:00.36 | nevcairiel | they made :Disable/:Enable protected some time ago as well |
| 18:00.52 | nevcairiel | which ruined some of my plans back then as well =p |
| 18:01.10 | foxlit | /bow |
| 18:02.11 | Fisker | ä |
| 18:04.01 | Gnarfoz | ö |
| 18:04.56 | nevcairiel | ü |
| 18:05.09 | Fisker | a |
| 18:05.10 | Fisker | ä |
| 18:05.12 | Fisker | b¨ |
| 18:05.21 | Fisker | ã |
| 18:05.30 | Gnarfoz | Ã |
| 18:05.57 | Fisker | µ |
| 18:06.13 | Thunder_Child | âªâ |
| 18:06.54 | Thunder_Child | Ã |
| 18:07.06 | Gnarfoz | Ã |
| 18:07.15 | Olison | pls |
| 18:07.20 | Gnarfoz | no thanks |
| 18:08.36 | Gnarfoz | original wow trailer from 2003 :D |
| 18:10.52 | Gnarfoz | the TBC e3 trailer features some awesomely low fps in-game scenese |
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| 18:13.08 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 18:14.58 | Gnarfoz | sup dude |
| 18:19.12 | Dagmar | Hey eryc, you there? |
| 18:21.27 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
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| 18:46.53 | Gnarfoz | world of roguecraft... man, good videos ;D |
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| 18:49.51 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 18:49.53 | Fisker | you are a bad person |
| 18:50.06 | Kraps | http://www.sc2replayed.com/ is blocked because it is currently categorized as: Phishing |
| 18:50.08 | Kraps | ?????? |
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| 18:52.51 | Fisker | owned Kraps |
| 18:53.20 | Kraps | i could get past it but ?????? |
| 18:53.53 | zenzelezz | it wants to steal all your replays |
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| 19:05.52 | Iriel | http://www.iriel.org/wow/docs/SecureHeadersGuide-4.0-r1.pdf |
| 19:05.58 | Kraps | husky has awesome stream of thought monologues |
| 19:06.05 | Iriel | Various 4.0ish updates |
| 19:06.47 | Iriel | Largely some new methods (Enable keyboard/mouse, frame strata), and the control handle is no longer special (it's just the frame handle for the owner frame) |
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| 19:12.28 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i dont have that issue with that side |
| 19:12.32 | Thunder_Child | site* |
| 19:13.04 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: probably just a false positive |
| 19:13.32 | Thunder_Child | ~fail sixen |
| 19:13.32 | purl | sixen, you Fail! |
| 19:13.54 | Fisker | the leaders of the free world hate PDF Iriel |
| 19:14.13 | Thunder_Child | "instead of doing it all one at a time." s/all// |
| 19:15.44 | Fisker | i would do you all the time Thunder_Child |
| 19:16.00 | Thunder_Child | and that is porper |
| 19:16.05 | Thunder_Child | proper* |
| 19:17.03 | Fisker | kiss me |
| 19:17.35 | Thunder_Child | kisses Fisker |
| 19:18.21 | Kraps | OH MY GOD GET A ROOM |
| 19:18.52 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 19:18.56 | Fisker | deal with it |
| 19:18.58 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: please. it's only the first date |
| 19:19.24 | Kraps | is all kinds of disturbed right now |
| 19:19.28 | Thunder_Child | i'm not that kind of woman |
| 19:20.03 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 19:20.06 | Thunder_Child | mt |
| 19:22.09 | Sixen | I don't fail |
| 19:22.10 | Sixen | :( |
| 19:22.30 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
| 19:22.33 | Fisker | i agree with you |
| 19:22.35 | Sixen | :P |
| 19:22.35 | Fisker | you are awesome |
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| 19:27.37 | Iriel | Fisker: would you prefer it in .docx? |
| 19:35.15 | foxlit | Did you write it in .docx? :) |
| 19:36.04 | Fisker | naw Iriel |
| 19:36.08 | Fisker | i wouldn't prefer it anything :P |
| 19:36.52 | Gnarfoz | he would prefer wow 1.x addons |
| 19:37.06 | Fisker | oh nos |
| 19:37.57 | mikma | http://slide.fi/wow/tricia6.jpg |
| 19:38.16 | mikma | in the picture, my lvl60 nelf priest and my friends lvl60 nelf rogue |
| 19:38.27 | mikma | this is from classic times |
| 19:38.31 | zenzelezz | the name gave me hopes that were then crushed |
| 19:38.46 | amro | he said 1.x addons, not tools. |
| 19:39.19 | zenzelezz | I'm sure Fisker was a tool in 1.x also |
| 19:39.49 | Fisker | wat? |
| 19:41.04 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/10/03/funny-pictures-swipe-that-grin/ |
| 19:41.14 | olafski | mikma: nice.. :) |
| 19:42.41 | Yssaril | mikma: havent seen that priest staff in ages :) |
| 19:43.02 | mikma | yssaril: i think i still have it in the bank |
| 19:43.09 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 19:43.36 | mikma | i hope we can change the race of the characters when cata ships |
| 19:43.45 | mikma | that nelf priest is so gonna be gnome |
| 19:44.43 | Iriel | I'm sure you can change, for the usual price. |
| 19:44.45 | olafski | :) |
| 19:44.50 | mikma | as you can see, i've dreamed of that moment since the classic |
| 19:45.13 | Cide | hmm |
| 19:45.19 | olafski | hey wait why is your priest a gnome :P |
| 19:45.35 | Cide | I'm trying to push a git repo to a remote repo... but it complains that I'm pushing to the active branch |
| 19:45.50 | Cide | what's the recommended way to proceed? |
| 19:45.53 | mikma | olafski: modelchange |
| 19:45.56 | Cide | I kinda want to push to the active branch |
| 19:46.04 | olafski | mikma: ah.. figures =) |
| 19:46.06 | Cide | but when I do the changes aren't reflected |
| 19:46.16 | mikma | olafski: my friend made that modelchange for me in the classic |
| 19:46.17 | Iriel | Is this the warning because the repo you're pushing to isn't a repo only install, but has a working copy? |
| 19:46.30 | Cide | I just started using git so I'm not aware of the differences |
| 19:46.43 | Cide | I don't need a working copy so that may be my mistake |
| 19:46.53 | olafski | mikma: why not make it an orc then.. orcs are cool |
| 19:46.56 | Cide | on the remote host I just did "git init" and then tried to push to that |
| 19:46.56 | olafski | such broad shoulders |
| 19:47.04 | Iriel | Usually you want 'init --bare' |
| 19:47.06 | mikma | olafski: :B |
| 19:47.07 | Cide | ah |
| 19:47.09 | Cide | let me try that |
| 19:47.22 | mikma | olafski: that is a "i puked in my mouth" -smiley |
| 19:47.25 | Iriel | Otherwise it's trying to warn you against changing the repo underneath a working copy |
| 19:47.41 | Iriel | Because it breaks git's ability to track deltas against the working copy on that repo |
| 19:47.55 | Iriel | (it's still doable, but you ahve to reset the working copy after each push, and that gets annoying) |
| 19:48.01 | Cide | yeah, I noticed |
| 19:48.05 | Iriel | bq |
| 19:48.07 | Cide | I was really confused |
| 19:48.19 | Cide | so after the push I tried to branch (so that I could push to the branch) |
| 19:48.28 | Cide | and suddenly both the branch and the master branch *had* the contents |
| 19:48.35 | olafski | mikma: aw come on :( |
| 19:48.36 | Iriel | I seem to recall bare making you do a tiny bit of extra work, i'm sure the internets can get you where you need to be |
| 19:48.58 | mikma | olafski: sorry, alliance for me :P |
| 19:49.20 | Cide | yeah |
| 19:49.22 | Cide | thanks Iriel :) |
| 19:49.25 | Yssaril | Iriel: nice pdf (anyway to easily add links and bookmarks so that youcan quickly jump to sections?) |
| 19:49.26 | olafski | same here mikma but I'd still prefer orc :P |
| 19:49.41 | mikma | olafski: i have lvl65 tauren shaman and lvl80 belf dk tho |
| 19:49.42 | Iriel | Doesn't word make those for you? |
| 19:49.56 | Iriel | Yssaril: the document has a ton of markup I kind of hoped word would preserve it |
| 19:50.03 | Iriel | Yssaril: Let me try something slightly different |
| 19:50.04 | olafski | gah my dyndns thing isn't accessible.. must be something on my end.. was going to show you a screenshot of my beautiful lvl 60 orc =( |
| 19:50.16 | Cide | ctscreens.net ! |
| 19:50.22 | olafski | :) |
| 19:50.24 | Yssaril | Iriel: it didn't (i can manually add them in but its a pain) |
| 19:50.57 | Yssaril | which version of word are you using? |
| 19:51.01 | Cide | another pop quiz |
| 19:51.14 | Cide | seemingly randomly my fedora install seems to stop most of its internet connectivity |
| 19:51.34 | Cide | usually when I'm downloading something with yum or pushing a large repo |
| 19:51.45 | Cide | but it just hangs until I disconnect and reconnect from wifi |
| 19:51.54 | Dagmar | You have Atheros? |
| 19:52.00 | Cide | probably |
| 19:52.05 | Dagmar | It would be why. |
| 19:52.17 | Cide | is it a lost cause or are there better drivers? |
| 19:52.32 | Dagmar | The driver is a bit dodgy, but they've got a lot of chips out there that frankly, are shit. |
| 19:52.43 | olafski | mikma: http://ctscreens.net/x/948 :-) |
| 19:52.45 | Cide | it's never given me issues on windows for the past 2 years |
| 19:52.56 | Dagmar | I keep catching people who play Minecraft on something with an Atheros wired ethernet connection, and it's fucking unstable under load |
| 19:53.02 | Cide | so I would guess the hardware is fine |
| 19:53.57 | mikma | olafski: pukepuke |
| 19:54.00 | Iriel | Yssaril: Hm, word seems to be executing an epic fail here, if you can figure out how to make MS word include PDF links when it saves/prints, let me know and i'll try that. |
| 19:54.28 | olafski | mikma: why must you hurt me :( |
| 19:55.39 | mikma | olafski: cause i hate haters, err, hordes |
| 19:55.52 | olafski | :( |
| 19:55.57 | mikma | olafski: i <3 gnomes 4eva |
| 19:56.12 | olafski | my gf is alliance so I play that too.. but I rolled a second warrior just so I could play orc again :) |
| 19:57.22 | jnwhiteh | I'm getting a "You can't do that yet" |
| 19:57.29 | jnwhiteh | when setting basic spellcast attributes for 'lifebloom' |
| 19:58.36 | olafski | mikma: I like gnomes too, but the camera view is so bad with them :/ |
| 20:02.23 | mikma | jnwhiteh: wdell, you cant do that |
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| 20:04.33 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 20:07.24 | nevcairiel | breadcrumbs for twilight highlands ... the usual place in stormwind, or anything special? |
| 20:09.46 | Maldivia | talk to the king |
| 20:10.19 | Maldivia | there's a quest series in stormwind you have to complete first, escorting the prince around town |
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| 20:10.56 | jnwhiteh | Any Clique users around for me to ask a few questions? I'd like some opinions. |
| 20:11.13 | Kraps | go |
| 20:11.48 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: |
| 20:11.52 | jnwhiteh | I'm trying to figure out how best to allow for the 'target clicked unit' and 'show menu' actions along with 'custom macro'. |
| 20:12.03 | jnwhiteh | binding spells is the same process |
| 20:12.12 | zenzelezz | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1055 - hobo, Canadian... easy mistake to make |
| 20:12.27 | jnwhiteh | I'm just trying to sort out how often people bind target/menu and what sort of interface to use for it. |
| 20:13.02 | Kraps | not sure what you mean, i just use the very basics |
| 20:13.11 | Xyphoid | those are in the radio button list of options at present right? |
| 20:13.16 | jnwhiteh | By 'the basics' you mean spells, right |
| 20:13.18 | jnwhiteh | Xyphoid: yes |
| 20:13.27 | Kraps | yes |
| 20:13.31 | Xyphoid | (i haven't touched my clique settings in ages, i just use the target unit one) |
| 20:13.44 | jnwhiteh | well you'll (probably) have to reconfigure |
| 20:13.46 | Xyphoid | are you looking at improving the UI to make those kind of options more discoverable etc? |
| 20:13.55 | jnwhiteh | no, things are being massively simplified |
| 20:14.01 | jnwhiteh | the addon had to be completely rewritten |
| 20:14.04 | jnwhiteh | so I'm streamlining. |
| 20:14.19 | jnwhiteh | All you'll be able to do is 'target unit', 'show menu', 'custom macro' and 'cast spell' |
| 20:14.29 | jnwhiteh | casting spells will be configured the same way as before, using the spellbook |
| 20:14.37 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a3ff7b1abf25fecc491a4c309f9dd5e5.png |
| 20:14.56 | jnwhiteh | I'm trying to sort out how to handle the other cases |
| 20:15.24 | Xyphoid | i can't even remember what else was in there - never considered using anything except target heh |
| 20:15.33 | jnwhiteh | that's why they're all going away |
| 20:15.37 | jnwhiteh | everything that can be done there can be done in a macro |
| 20:15.41 | jnwhiteh | so i'm making people do that |
| 20:16.36 | ckknight | http://www.wimp.com/projectionmapping/ |
| 20:17.25 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: the ging doesnt give me anything (except a quest to go to redridge <.<) |
| 20:17.30 | nevcairiel | *king |
| 20:17.49 | olafski | hm interesting new configuration jnwhiteh :) |
| 20:18.05 | jnwhiteh | its not all that different |
| 20:18.07 | jnwhiteh | just streamlined |
| 20:18.08 | olafski | hm |
| 20:18.11 | olafski | it looks different |
| 20:18.25 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: leven? |
| 20:18.27 | Maldivia | level* |
| 20:18.33 | nevcairiel | 83 |
| 20:18.48 | Maldivia | need to be 84 |
| 20:18.51 | nevcairiel | i'm stuck in uldum, some quest is not completable, and i dont have any others left |
| 20:18.51 | olafski | oh wait it doesn't really look that different |
| 20:19.03 | nevcairiel | but only half trough, quest wise <.< |
| 20:19.26 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: yeah, just "finished" uldum myself, stuck on the harrison quest line with the bugged orbs in the first area |
| 20:19.40 | nevcairiel | bugged orbs? |
| 20:19.46 | Maldivia | did all the other quest lines though, love the one where you have to kill 1000 gnomes :P |
| 20:19.46 | nevcairiel | but i'm stuck on the questline myself |
| 20:20.18 | nevcairiel | when he jumps down into that hole, when i try to follow him, i see him vanish before my eyes, and i cannot finish the damn quest =P |
| 20:20.18 | Maldivia | in the first room where harrison jones is, you have to get some goggles and then find some orb like things, but there's a phase bug in the current build so you can't see the orbs |
| 20:20.29 | olafski | jnwhiteh: I kinda like how it's done now, so not sure what you mean by streamlining.. I managed to find the show menu option just fine, and I haven't touched the "target clicked unit" part myself |
| 20:20.37 | olafski | (e.g. I didn't rebind leftclick) |
| 20:20.58 | Maldivia | he's at the bottom, next to the machine, but there are only 3 quests more down there before you get to the bugged one mentioned above |
| 20:21.02 | jnwhiteh | If anyone wants to talk about it real quick, /join #clique |
| 20:21.05 | jnwhiteh | so I don't busy it up in here. |
| 20:21.17 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: i see him standing here, but as soon as i get near him, he vanishe |
| 20:21.20 | nevcairiel | +s |
| 20:21.24 | nevcairiel | like i switch phase |
| 20:21.37 | Maldivia | yeah ok - apparently the area is phase bugged |
| 20:21.42 | Maldivia | done the other quest lines in uldum ? |
| 20:21.49 | nevcairiel | all i could find |
| 20:22.00 | Maldivia | so you're at around 65 quests completed? |
| 20:22.05 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 20:22.18 | nevcairiel | 58 actually |
| 20:22.38 | Maldivia | same here, dinged 84 right before killing the elite boss at the neferat city |
| 20:22.47 | nevcairiel | 20% left to 84, guess i'll kill some poor mobs somewhere |
| 20:22.55 | nevcairiel | oh, just 10% |
| 20:22.57 | nevcairiel | anyway |
| 20:22.59 | nevcairiel | goes killing |
| 20:23.04 | Maldivia | done with deepholm? |
| 20:23.08 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 20:23.18 | nevcairiel | I finished it while the 83 cap was still in place |
| 20:23.18 | Maldivia | what server/faction ? |
| 20:23.22 | nevcairiel | so i lost some xp there :( |
| 20:23.32 | Maldivia | ohh, levelling is SO fast now though :) |
| 20:23.35 | nevcairiel | EU alliance |
| 20:23.42 | Maldivia | ahh, the queue server :P |
| 20:24.29 | Maldivia | you can always go do the dailies in deepholme |
| 20:24.36 | Maldivia | that should give you around 300k |
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| 20:24.58 | nevcairiel | yeah ,that was my plan actually |
| 20:24.59 | Maldivia | and it's very fast to get there, since you can portal to the earthmother |
| 20:25.55 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: and as for how fast it is to level, I dinged 84 with 2d 15h played |
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| 20:26.45 | nevcairiel | i leveld to 83 in the days after the author beta went out, guess muched changed sind then |
| 20:26.52 | nevcairiel | just started again yesterday |
| 20:26.59 | Maldivia | yeah, a lot have changed |
| 20:27.11 | Maldivia | this was a fresh worgen warlock, levelled all the way : |
| 20:27.33 | nevcairiel | 2d 15 from 1 to 84? crazy |
| 20:28.47 | Maldivia | 60: 1d 6m, 70: 1d 11h 22m, 80: 2d 6h 0m, 84: 2d 15h 56m |
| 20:29.07 | nevcairiel | On related topics, i'm kinda disappointed by Uldum. Except the funny remarks in some quests, the zone was rather boring until now |
| 20:29.12 | nevcairiel | especially visually |
| 20:29.26 | Maldivia | you did the kill 1000 gnomes quests? |
| 20:29.33 | nevcairiel | yea, that one was good |
| 20:29.47 | Maldivia | how did you find the quest in the cave under water? |
| 20:29.50 | nevcairiel | although 1000 was a bit much, wasnt much fuin after the first 500 =P |
| 20:30.07 | nevcairiel | i got eaten by the snakes the first time =( |
| 20:30.19 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: 10h played for 10 60-70? :wtf: |
| 20:30.47 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: as I said, levelling is fast |
| 20:30.49 | nevcairiel | 9 hours for 80-84 is quite insane |
| 20:30.57 | nevcairiel | i was hoping for it to take longer tbh |
| 20:31.11 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how you did that |
| 20:31.16 | nevcairiel | I mean, we'll have 85 on the first day after the expansion |
| 20:31.19 | nevcairiel | how is that fun! |
| 20:31.24 | Gnarfoz | I'm 84 and I spent no idea how many hours already |
| 20:31.42 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: well, it's good, means I don't have to take a sleep break in between |
| 20:31.51 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: 80-81: 1h 20m (had to get to stormwind from dalaran, with portals removed :/ ) |
| 20:31.54 | Gnarfoz | ...if I can get my leveling speed up to that insane level, that is |
| 20:31.58 | Maldivia | 81-82: 50min |
| 20:32.06 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 20:32.08 | Gnarfoz | how? o_O |
| 20:32.13 | Gnarfoz | that is 6.5mio exp each level |
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| 20:32.26 | Maldivia | no, 80 and 81 are only 1.7mill |
| 20:32.28 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 20:32.30 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 20:32.40 | nevcairiel | At that speed it would be viable to get a midnight release, level, and then sleep |
| 20:32.41 | Gnarfoz | even then, that's insane |
| 20:32.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: indeed oO |
| 20:33.09 | nevcairiel | Maybe i should level again |
| 20:33.12 | nevcairiel | to check it out |
| 20:33.14 | nevcairiel | ponders |
| 20:33.14 | Maldivia | ok, 80-82 was mostly rested, but that still only affects the kill xp |
| 20:33.15 | Gnarfoz | I plan to |
| 20:33.32 | Gnarfoz | re-transfered my char, going to finish the 84 one to 85 |
| 20:33.34 | Gnarfoz | and then start over |
| 20:33.50 | Maldivia | 82-83: 3h 56m, 83-84: 3h 51m |
| 20:33.55 | Gnarfoz | also, Vashj'ir seems to have way too many "pick stuff up from the ground" quests IMHO :D |
| 20:34.21 | Gnarfoz | 83-84 took me several days :\ |
| 20:34.33 | Maldivia | I did that in two sittings today :) |
| 20:34.37 | Maldivia | before and after dinner |
| 20:35.20 | Gnarfoz | not sure what you're doing to be that fast, tbh |
| 20:35.33 | Gnarfoz | maybe ret is undertuned (heh, it is, anyway) and I'm spending too much time killing stuff |
| 20:35.57 | nevcairiel | in those 10 hours you did all 3 zones completly, and half of uldum? |
| 20:36.06 | Maldivia | well, this is a warlock, and I've never really played warlock before, just wanted a worgen warlock :P |
| 20:36.08 | Gnarfoz | did you do only quests? any instances? |
| 20:36.14 | Maldivia | no instances |
| 20:36.22 | Gnarfoz | (is your char called "Furlock"? :P) |
| 20:36.35 | Maldivia | Malloc :) |
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| 20:42.02 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: what's your dps like when questing as ret pally? |
| 20:42.13 | Gnarfoz | not sure, I should probably install Skada or something |
| 20:42.30 | Maldivia | how long does it take for you to kill a mob? |
| 20:42.39 | Maldivia | 5, 10, 15, 20 sec? |
| 20:42.41 | Gnarfoz | probably not really high, seeing that it takes a while to build up holy power |
| 20:43.01 | Gnarfoz | between 10 and 15, probably? |
| 20:43.08 | Maldivia | so that's 4-5k dps |
| 20:43.17 | nevcairiel | thats the same time most chars take |
| 20:43.19 | Gnarfoz | depends, and it got better recently with some blue dungeon drops |
| 20:43.35 | Maldivia | and yeah, that's around mobs classes take |
| 20:43.52 | Gnarfoz | I should pay attention / get a combat timer mod |
| 20:43.53 | Gnarfoz | ;) |
| 20:43.55 | Maldivia | the first few quests in hyjal was brutal, coming from icecrown quest greens :P |
| 20:44.04 | Gnarfoz | I'm in 277 gear mostly. :( |
| 20:44.34 | Maldivia | well, I was in 160 greens when I entered hyjal :) |
| 20:44.35 | Gnarfoz | no less brutal, can't really pull more than three mobs and hope to survive |
| 20:44.41 | Xyphoid | is the azeroth -> outland transition smoother now with the reworked azeroth quests? or is that jump still there? |
| 20:44.56 | Maldivia | the jump is still there |
| 20:45.04 | Gnarfoz | Art of War not making Flash of Light instant cast is really un-awesome |
| 20:45.08 | Maldivia | but not as hars as northrend -> cataclyms |
| 20:45.19 | Gnarfoz | well, itshould now be Holy Light, really, because FoL costs like 4k mana |
| 20:45.32 | Gnarfoz | that'd be 70% of my mana pool at 80 ;p |
| 20:46.00 | Maldivia | I entered hyjal with ~15k hp and mana, left with 35k :) |
| 20:46.12 | Maldivia | and gained 2k spell power |
| 20:46.40 | nevcairiel | the hp/mana boost in hyjal is extreme |
| 20:46.47 | nevcairiel | but alot of that is coming from level ups as well |
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| 20:47.31 | nevcairiel | they seem to significantly increase base mana to increase spell cost |
| 20:47.40 | Maldivia | hmm, lets see, my hp/mp at level ups... 80: 16.7/15.6, 81: 29.1/26.9, 82: 33.8/29.9, 83: 48.3/44.5, 84: 62.7/55.0 |
| 20:47.54 | ftwordrin | Hey, I'm trying to make something that starts a timer everytime I leave combat. Could someone tell me where I should put the code to get it to check if I'm in combat constantly? |
| 20:48.25 | Maldivia | ftwordrin: there are events that fire when you enter and leave combat, listen for those |
| 20:48.35 | Gnarfoz | does skada work on beta? |
| 20:48.42 | Maldivia | yes |
| 20:48.44 | ftwordrin | Thanks Maldivia |
| 20:48.51 | Gnarfoz | *copies* |
| 20:48.53 | Gnarfoz | also... hmm |
| 20:49.07 | Tuller | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/InCombatLockdown |
| 20:49.19 | Gnarfoz | Cascade or EavesDrop? |
| 20:49.29 | Gnarfoz | or something else that times fights |
| 20:49.36 | Maldivia | ftwordrin: usually PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED and PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED are used to find when you enter combat (disabled) and leave (enabled) |
| 20:50.51 | Tuller | yep, those are the events |
| 20:50.55 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: skada records to time as well, or well start and finish, so with a bit of math you can easily find out the duration |
| 20:51.01 | Gnarfoz | sure |
| 20:51.22 | Gnarfoz | but it'd be far more obvious if I just had a line printed to chat with each fight's duration |
| 20:51.30 | Gnarfoz | actually, I could just write something that does that myself :P |
| 20:51.39 | Maldivia | using the above two events :) |
| 20:51.45 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 20:57.02 | Gnarfoz | done |
| 20:57.26 | Gnarfoz | assuming I didn't fuck up, that is |
| 21:00.02 | amro | Maldivia: those look like ip addresses at a glance |
| 21:00.45 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: sorry about that, i have a terrible cold and find it hard to type coherently |
| 21:00.51 | jnwhiteh | np |
| 21:02.00 | Gnarfoz | apparently, I didn't! |
| 21:02.31 | Gnarfoz | !api format |
| 21:02.31 | lua_bot | format: Returns a formatted string containing specified values (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/format) |
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| 21:03.02 | ftwordrin | @Maldivia I haven't gotten to the point of writing action listeners in LUA yet but thanks for the point in the right direction, doing some reading now. : ) |
| 21:03.43 | nevcairiel | how would you do it without events o.O |
| 21:04.13 | ftwordrin | I'm used to programming shitty tiny games so I have expected a step() function to be somewhere that looped ;p |
| 21:04.20 | ftwordrin | back to my main point... i = noob |
| 21:04.41 | olafski | OnUpdate? :) |
| 21:04.46 | ftwordrin | ^ lol |
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| 21:05.07 | nevcairiel | hrm, still 350k short of the level up .. what else can i do |
| 21:05.22 | Thunder_Child | many things? |
| 21:05.23 | olafski | you can actually use that ftwordrin.. but imo it's best to react to events if possible |
| 21:05.33 | olafski | nevcairiel: herbalism for great xp! |
| 21:05.46 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: there are always way to get xp |
| 21:05.48 | ftwordrin | yea i'd like to get in the habit |
| 21:05.56 | Thunder_Child | ftwordrin: become a nun |
| 21:06.05 | olafski | or date a nun |
| 21:06.07 | ftwordrin | Is there a good tutorial for getting started with action listeners in lua? |
| 21:06.58 | olafski | not much to it.. make a frame, register an event and specify a method to call when that event happens |
| 21:07.42 | ftwordrin | will do |
| 21:07.45 | olafski | http://www.wowwiki.com/Handling_events for instance, though there are possibly better ones |
| 21:08.12 | ftwordrin | at least i can do that lol |
| 21:09.30 | Gnarfoz | is there some way to get a chat frame by name? |
| 21:09.43 | Gnarfoz | do I have to loop through ChatFrame1 - ChatFrame9 and check their names? |
| 21:10.04 | Gnarfoz | !api ChatFrame |
| 21:10.04 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'ChatFrame': ChatFrame_AddMessageEventFilter, ChatFrame_RemoveMessageEventFilter, ChatFrame_GetMessageEventFilters |
| 21:14.50 | Cide | sigh |
| 21:14.55 | Cide | apache is a bitch |
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| 21:15.33 | olafski | microsoft.com/iis :) |
| 21:15.55 | ftwordrin | lol |
| 21:16.40 | Gnarfoz | nginx.ru |
| 21:16.40 | ftwordrin | when i have my new addon with it's addon.xml and addon.lua which runs first? the xml right? |
| 21:16.41 | Gnarfoz | ;] |
| 21:16.48 | Gnarfoz | ftwordrin: whichever you specify in the .toc |
| 21:16.48 | ftwordrin | because it's loaded through the xml |
| 21:16.54 | Adys | [22:16:40] <Gnarfoz> nginx.ru |
| 21:16.55 | Adys | +1 |
| 21:16.55 | Gnarfoz | and you don't need .xml at all, if you don't use any xml |
| 21:17.02 | Fisker | i will kill you Gnarfoz |
| 21:17.07 | ftwordrin | so would i just type in addon.lua in the toc? |
| 21:17.07 | Gnarfoz | you sure? |
| 21:17.10 | Gnarfoz | ftwordrin: yep |
| 21:17.15 | ftwordrin | cool beans |
| 21:17.21 | nevcairiel | unless you need/want the xml for frame creation |
| 21:17.29 | nevcairiel | but its not required to use xml in 99% of the cases |
| 21:17.33 | nevcairiel | personal choice |
| 21:17.46 | ftwordrin | Really don't care, I don't even need frames. |
| 21:17.53 | ftwordrin | It's basically entirely chat/console based. |
| 21:18.25 | Adys | then dont use xml |
| 21:18.29 | ftwordrin | I still need the frame in the lua though I think, to register the events on. |
| 21:18.34 | Adys | you're complicating yourself for nothing |
| 21:18.44 | Adys | use CreateFrame() |
| 21:18.47 | ftwordrin | the xml came from a pervious tutorial i was working on : ) |
| 21:18.51 | ftwordrin | just expanding upon stuff |
| 21:19.05 | ftwordrin | yup already found that function :) |
| 21:19.17 | ftwordrin | events = CreateFrame("MyAddon") |
| 21:19.40 | Adys | basically, xml can *sometimes* make your life easier when developing large guis |
| 21:20.01 | Adys | but most of the time it's hell |
| 21:20.49 | ftwordrin | I was working with a lot of xml on a previous project but it was entirely xml so I'm pretty used to it. |
| 21:20.59 | ftwordrin | It would parse the wow armory and tie it into a website's dkp system. :D |
| 21:21.02 | Fisker | goodbye sweet Gnarfoz |
| 21:21.34 | ftwordrin | Never finished it tho because the guild webmaster was lazy and didnt want to fix up the website's ugly code >.< |
| 21:21.47 | ftwordrin | it had unused tables everywhere |
| 21:22.00 | ftwordrin | missing div tags etc etc standard crap lol |
| 21:23.11 | ftwordrin | if i listen on the event PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED will it run constantly while player is regenerating or just once when it makes the switch? |
| 21:24.11 | Iriel | The latter |
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| 21:25.27 | Gnarfoz | bleh? |
| 21:26.06 | ftwordrin | thx |
| 21:26.11 | Gnarfoz | why does |
| 21:26.12 | Gnarfoz | for i=1,9 do if ChatFrame..i["name"] == "something" then dosomething() end end |
| 21:26.14 | Gnarfoz | not work? o_O |
| 21:26.27 | Adys | ChatFrame..i["name"] |
| 21:26.40 | Adys | you want _G["ChatFrame"..i["name"]] i guess |
| 21:26.42 | Gnarfoz | well, yes, attempting to access local index "i" |
| 21:26.43 | Gnarfoz | hmm. |
| 21:26.46 | Gnarfoz | I guess I do |
| 21:26.59 | Gnarfoz | (didn't this use to work way back in the day?) |
| 21:27.10 | Adys | no? |
| 21:27.36 | Adys | unless ChatFrame is a string, and i["name"] too, and you're looking for the truth of the string |
| 21:27.47 | Adys | which would always be true in lua |
| 21:28.02 | Gnarfoz | logic wins again |
| 21:28.26 | Gnarfoz | the error message says something else is wrong, though: attempt to index local 'i' (a number value) o_O |
| 21:28.30 | Gnarfoz | which doesn't make sense |
| 21:28.37 | Adys | i is a number then |
| 21:28.42 | Adys | what's "name" ? |
| 21:28.55 | Adys | you probably want name[i] :p |
| 21:28.59 | Gnarfoz | huh? |
| 21:29.00 | haste | _G["ChatFrame"..i.."name"] |
| 21:29.04 | Gnarfoz | ChatFrame1[name] |
| 21:29.05 | Adys | or that |
| 21:29.09 | Gnarfoz | is what I want to check against |
| 21:29.10 | Adys | yeah |
| 21:29.12 | Adys | haste has it |
| 21:29.18 | Adys | er no |
| 21:29.21 | haste | no I don't :P |
| 21:29.22 | Gnarfoz | that would result in ChatFrame1Name |
| 21:29.26 | Adys | _G["ChatFrame"..i]["name"] |
| 21:29.27 | Adys | :p |
| 21:29.31 | haste | yeah that |
| 21:29.33 | Gnarfoz | ok, bracket madness ;) |
| 21:29.43 | haste | didn't get to read your discussion first :P |
| 21:29.44 | Gnarfoz | (or too many Cuba Libres, either one) |
| 21:30.00 | haste | and i['name'] had me confused : |
| 21:30.07 | Adys | same |
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| 21:37.17 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* why does arkinventory fail so hard on guild banks |
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| 21:39.41 | Gnarfoz | mhh |
| 21:40.41 | Gnarfoz | how do you fix an addon that suffers from "attempt to index local 'this' (a nil value)" in general? |
| 21:41.05 | haste | add self to the argument list and use it instead of this |
| 21:41.11 | Gnarfoz | that's what I thought, hmm |
| 21:41.30 | Arrowmaster | no, that would be a global this error |
| 21:41.37 | Arrowmaster | local this would be slightly different |
| 21:41.45 | haste | I'm guessing Gnarfoz is on beta |
| 21:41.48 | Gnarfoz | I am |
| 21:42.11 | haste | and I wouldn't be surprised if someone makes this local |
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| 21:43.27 | wordman | !event |
| 21:43.35 | wordman | !api event |
| 21:43.35 | lua_bot | Found 88 possible matches for 'event'. Please be more specific |
| 21:43.47 | wordman | !api OnEvent |
| 21:43.47 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'OnEvent'. |
| 21:43.54 | wordman | hmm |
| 21:44.12 | wordman | !api events |
| 21:44.12 | lua_bot | Found 23 possible matches for 'events'. Please be more specific |
| 21:44.19 | Seerah | wordman: what are you looking for? |
| 21:44.19 | haste | can you just go to the site? |
| 21:44.19 | wordman | !api events[event](self, ...) |
| 21:44.20 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'events[event](self, ...)'. |
| 21:44.34 | wordman | i've never tried to use the !api function |
| 21:44.39 | Gnarfoz | the weird thing is, it works even though it's erroring |
| 21:44.39 | wordman | in the chat :p |
| 21:44.49 | haste | you can PM the bot as well |
| 21:44.57 | wordman | o, my b |
| 21:45.03 | Seerah | if you're just scanning around, you can use PMs with lua_bot (and haste beat me :p) |
| 21:45.17 | wordman | any1 wanna take a look at my code in pastebin? |
| 21:45.18 | Seerah | but it's just a search/index for wowprogramming |
| 21:45.19 | Gnarfoz | "attempt to index local 'self' (a nil value)" o_O |
| 21:45.21 | haste | *rawr* |
| 21:45.33 | haste | Gnarfoz: sorry, I don't have clairvoyance yet |
| 21:45.45 | wordman | rofl gnarfox |
| 21:45.46 | Gnarfoz | haste: tech more, then! |
| 21:45.48 | wordman | gnarfoz* |
| 21:46.26 | wordman | I followed the http://www.wowwiki.com/Handling_events page examples but it's not catching my PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 21:46.43 | wordman | I registered the listeners |
| 21:46.52 | wordman | with frame:RegisterEvent |
| 21:47.20 | Seerah | wordman and Gnarfoz: we can't help unless we see code. :) We're not psychic. :) If you have your code on pastebin already, please post a link :) |
| 21:47.35 | Seerah | otherwise, we can just guess ;) |
| 21:48.04 | wordman | http://pastebin.com/YFXwHKY5 |
| 21:49.07 | Seerah | wordman: local events = CreateFrame("Frame"); |
| 21:49.24 | Gnarfoz | old code is old, augh |
| 21:49.32 | wordman | O.o? |
| 21:49.33 | Seerah | your frame variable is nil, and you're registering that nil var to the event that is actually a frame |
| 21:49.47 | haste | wordman: you have a syntax error on the top, enable lua errors |
| 21:50.00 | Seerah | and that, too |
| 21:50.05 | haste | and what Seerah said :3 |
| 21:50.19 | Gnarfoz | hasn't anyone else beside sylvanaar made a simple "give me the contents of chatframeX so I can copy them out" addon? that's probably faster than fixing his ;p |
| 21:50.30 | wordman | how do i enable lua errors? is that in game? |
| 21:50.31 | haste | Gnarfoz: take a look at oChat |
| 21:50.40 | Seerah | CopyChat? |
| 21:51.29 | wordman | Revenge of the NPC... I alt-tabbed out and the NPC's I was "testing" on killed me. |
| 21:51.45 | haste | happens quite often |
| 21:52.02 | haste | it's not uncommon for me to be dead in-game at least :P |
| 21:52.06 | Gnarfoz | Seerah: where would that be at? |
| 21:52.25 | Seerah | ah, there's also EasyCopy, CCopy, and Chat CopyCat |
| 21:52.29 | Seerah | CopyChat is on Curse |
| 21:52.32 | Gnarfoz | no, it's not |
| 21:52.33 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:52.37 | Seerah | though it seems that it hasn't been updated in a bit |
| 21:52.41 | Seerah | yes it is, I just looked at it |
| 21:52.43 | Gnarfoz | or wait, it might be on cf, not wowace |
| 21:52.48 | Gnarfoz | also, copycat does somethign else |
| 21:52.57 | Seerah | stupid curse. that's a ROM addon |
| 21:53.00 | Gnarfoz | and ccopy and easycopy do just single lines. |
| 21:53.08 | Gnarfoz | don't think I haven't looked before I asked ;p |
| 21:53.42 | Seerah | :p |
| 21:53.58 | Gnarfoz | haste: I don't really get what copy.lua from ochat does, sorry. o_O |
| 21:54.16 | wordman | @Seerah is this what your getting at? : local frame, events = CreateFrame("Frame"), {}; |
| 21:54.22 | wordman | is that the correct syntax? |
| 21:54.33 | Seerah | that works |
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| 21:54.53 | wordman | I don't understand I just tried to expand it into a block looking style. |
| 21:55.04 | wordman | So I thought the commas just seperated the local type to everything |
| 21:55.10 | haste | Gnarfoz: it finds the line you clicked on, and copies it by iterating through the fontstrings on the chatframe |
| 21:55.11 | wordman | hence the local frame local events local {} |
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| 21:55.25 | Gnarfoz | haste: as I said before, I want to copy the entire frame |
| 21:55.51 | Seerah | wordman: but if you don't set those variables to anything, then they are nil |
| 21:55.58 | Gnarfoz | guess it's back to fixing this old one of sylvanaar's: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7170-CopyThat.html :\ |
| 21:56.40 | haste | Gnarfoz: then remove the limits :P |
| 21:56.46 | Seerah | you had frame equal to nothing (nil) and events equal to CreateFrame("Frame") (a frame, not an event). Then you tried to register the frame (not an event) to the variable you named frame (which was nil) |
| 21:56.55 | haste | anyway, going to bed now, want six hours of sleep! |
| 21:57.01 | Seerah | nn, haste |
| 21:57.05 | haste | gn |
| 21:58.13 | Gnarfoz | what limits? I don't really follow your approach of "not usable by anyone who doesn't entirely understand this hunk of uncommented Lua" ^^ |
| 21:58.15 | wordman | @Seerah I got that code directly from the wowwiki >.< |
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| 21:58.53 | wordman | I also fixed that line and it still doesn't work it's so frustrating. |
| 21:59.02 | wordman | ActionListeners in java r so ez : p |
| 21:59.09 | Seerah | wordman: no, wowwiki says this: local frame, events = CreateFrame("Frame"), {}; |
| 21:59.15 | Gnarfoz | try forgetting anything about java for a second |
| 21:59.27 | Gnarfoz | that'll probably make things easier ;p |
| 21:59.29 | Seerah | frame = CreateFrame("Frame") and events = {} |
| 21:59.40 | Seerah | a,b,c = 1,2,3 |
| 21:59.48 | Seerah | a=1, b=2, c=3 |
| 22:00.04 | wordman | OH |
| 22:00.05 | wordman | ok |
| 22:00.15 | Torhal | And "local {}" makes my brain itch. |
| 22:00.20 | wordman | LOL ya |
| 22:00.23 | Torhal | ~pil |
| 22:00.23 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 22:00.23 | Seerah | if you do a,b,c = 1,2 then a=1, b=2, and c=nil |
| 22:00.27 | Torhal | Read. |
| 22:00.37 | Seerah | ^^ :) |
| 22:00.43 | wordman | I don't know why you wouldn't line seperate it to make it more readable tho >.> |
| 22:01.15 | Seerah | or.... http://lua-users.org/wiki/TutorialDirectory |
| 22:01.19 | wordman | still doesnt make sense why the code doesnt work though now that i've entered it correctly as local frame, events = CreateFrame("Frame"), {}; |
| 22:01.40 | Seerah | wordman: local events = {} |
| 22:01.40 | Seerah | local frame = CreateFrame("frame") |
| 22:01.41 | Torhal | You're declaring the variable "events" to be an empty table. |
| 22:02.00 | Seerah | right, so you're still not registering for an event. |
| 22:02.02 | wordman | http://www.wowwiki.com/Handling_events Lua-specific |
| 22:02.18 | Torhal | You're then declaring member functions on that empty table. |
| 22:02.28 | Seerah | not to mention, that your pastey showed that you were doing RegisterEvent(k) instead of RegisterEvent(v) |
| 22:02.30 | Torhal | Which makes it non-empty, but it isn't a frame, which is required to handle events |
| 22:02.38 | Seerah | (the table index instead of the index's value) |
| 22:02.45 | wordman | someone experienced should clean up the wiki lol |
| 22:03.01 | Torhal | The wiki is fine. |
| 22:03.02 | Seerah | the wiki is fine :) |
| 22:03.12 | Torhal | You're mixing and matching frame and event |
| 22:03.13 | wordman | the wiki does the RegisterEvent(k) |
| 22:03.18 | wordman | o |
| 22:03.21 | Seerah | I learned from the wiki and from looking at other addons |
| 22:03.31 | wordman | yea im looking at DBM lol but thats a lil crazy |
| 22:03.40 | Seerah | start with somehting simple :p |
| 22:03.41 | wordman | i originally started looking at it for it's timer stuff |
| 22:04.35 | Torhal | Seerah: Actually, he does want k, since k would be PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD, or whatever. v would be the function itself. |
| 22:04.46 | Seerah | Torhal: actually, looking at the wiki... shouldn't it be frame: and not events: for the functions? |
| 22:05.03 | Seerah | oh, I guess it depends on how he wanted his table |
| 22:05.09 | Torhal | Seerah: They're doing it oddly, but the functions are declared as members of the events table |
| 22:06.04 | wordman | @Torhal that's what i was just thinking with the events: stuff |
| 22:06.11 | Angayelle | hai people, i have a little problem with the "frame":SetText command, i believe my xml and lua are good but it doesn't work right. http://www.pastey.net/141140-2p58 http://www.pastey.net/141139-46sb |
| 22:06.56 | Torhal | wordman: Just do this - get rid of the events table. Then use this: |
| 22:07.45 | Torhal | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) if self[event] then return self[event] (self, event, ...) end end) |
| 22:08.07 | wordman | I have something similar to that, did you see the pastey? |
| 22:08.36 | Torhal | I glanced at it, saw "local {}" and seized immediately. |
| 22:08.41 | wordman | rofl |
| 22:08.42 | Gnarfoz | so... if I get "attempt to get length of a nil value" from doing #... in a function that was defined as Frame:Function(...) - that means there are no args? |
| 22:08.42 | Seerah | wordman: here's a simple example: http://pastebin.com/WP8fmbxi |
| 22:09.11 | Thunder_Child | amazing, wow keeps crashing when i make a new tab and try to turn it into it's own window |
| 22:09.17 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: T'would seem so. |
| 22:09.19 | Cide | Adys: hi |
| 22:09.21 | Adys | hi |
| 22:09.26 | wordman | @Seerah yay that actually looks like it makes sense |
| 22:09.29 | Cide | you use lighttpd right? |
| 22:09.30 | wordman | lol and i can read it |
| 22:09.31 | Torhal | Anywho, break's over. Back to moving furniture. |
| 22:09.42 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: but wouldn't a function defined that way at least have "self", always? |
| 22:09.47 | Adys | yea |
| 22:09.49 | Adys | sec |
| 22:10.15 | Cide | gimme your conf |
| 22:10.19 | Cide | and your start/stop script |
| 22:10.28 | Torhal | Gnarfoz: table:function(...) means table.function(self, ...) |
| 22:10.35 | Torhal | So yes. |
| 22:10.47 | Gnarfoz | so why is #... nil :D |
| 22:10.51 | Seerah | Angayelle: are you getting an error about trying to use an unknown method? ;) |
| 22:11.00 | Gnarfoz | anyway, I think I found an alternative (overlooked a tab in my browser) |
| 22:11.01 | Torhal | Because "self" isn't part of the ellipsis |
| 22:11.02 | Angayelle | nope no error |
| 22:11.10 | Torhal | It's the first arg. |
| 22:11.13 | Seerah | you're trying to use SetText on the frame itself, not on the fontstring. (do you have Lua errors disabled?) |
| 22:11.22 | Torhal | You're getting the length of ..., which is separate from self |
| 22:11.45 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: I see - I still think I'll go the route of trying something that maybe doesn't need fixing, hehe |
| 22:11.51 | Torhal | Heh |
| 22:11.52 | wordman | @Seerah those parentheses are a lil crrazy it doesnt look like it's checking for the true false of event =="PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" |
| 22:11.55 | Seerah | Angayelle: the reference/name of your fontstring is LBTextFrameLabel |
| 22:11.56 | Gnarfoz | ancient code using (even then) deprecated Lua constructs |
| 22:11.58 | Angayelle | lua errors are enbaled |
| 22:12.03 | Torhal | wordman: It's implied. |
| 22:12.05 | Gnarfoz | or rather, WoW-Lua constructs |
| 22:12.19 | Angayelle | gonna try that, thanks seerah |
| 22:12.39 | Torhal | wordman: Actually, she shouldn't have the closing parens there |
| 22:12.41 | Torhal | Just noticed. |
| 22:12.47 | wordman | quit assuming the newb is wrong lol |
| 22:12.56 | Torhal | Can't. 99% of the time...:D |
| 22:13.08 | wordman | ;p |
| 22:13.11 | Seerah | copy-paste fail |
| 22:13.17 | Torhal | Now, I'm moving furniture. For reals. |
| 22:13.35 | wordman | so should it be frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self,event,...)) then the if statement? |
| 22:13.38 | Gnarfoz | wheee http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=13850 wins |
| 22:13.44 | Seerah | this: http://pastebin.com/Th2j6xn6 |
| 22:13.46 | wordman | grats |
| 22:14.03 | Gnarfoz | it's also 1/3 of the size of sylvanaar's CopyThat, and that isn't that big to begin with ;p |
| 22:14.07 | wordman | ok so that whole script is nested in the frame |
| 22:14.18 | wordman | got it |
| 22:15.21 | Seerah | frame:SetScript() calls for two arguments. first, the type of script handler you want to assign (here, OnEvent). Second, the function you want it to use. You can put the whole function there, as I did, you can reference a pre-existing function instead. |
| 22:15.37 | Seerah | *or |
| 22:15.57 | Cide | Adys: ssss |
| 22:15.59 | Cide | gimme your conf |
| 22:16.11 | Adys | i used lppd |
| 22:16.14 | Adys | i dont use it anymore |
| 22:16.17 | Adys | i use nginx now |
| 22:16.21 | Angayelle | hmm http://www.pastey.net/141142-fcb7 new lua, i might have not corrected the settext ? |
| 22:16.29 | Cide | well don't you have your conf around? |
| 22:16.35 | Angayelle | cause it doesn't work |
| 22:16.39 | wordman | @Seerah thanks it's simple enough to not need external functions |
| 22:16.48 | Adys | no its been a year |
| 22:17.16 | Cide | bad |
| 22:17.19 | wordman | there wouldnt happen to be a BOSS_ENGAGED event or something would there? |
| 22:17.21 | Cide | you had it 3 months ago |
| 22:17.24 | Seerah | wordman: if you happen to be working on a simple addon which only requires one event, then you don't even need to check for which even it was. Your function will only be called for the one event that your frame is registered to. |
| 22:17.32 | Adys | i had your sister 3 months ago |
| 22:17.51 | wordman | thats a good point |
| 22:18.19 | Seerah | wordman: without looking, I would have to say no. You would have to check for if you're in a raid and if the npc in combat with you is a boss |
| 22:19.30 | wordman | yea i've already got the raid checking figured out but there's no distinguishing from boss vs trash fighting it seems unless you make an array of bossnames and check the target |
| 22:20.15 | Seerah | what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 22:21.57 | wordman | making a downtimer : ) |
| 22:22.07 | wordman | announces to the raid at the start of a boss fight how much downtime was incurred |
| 22:22.14 | wordman | but it has to not time trash fights hence the combat checking |
| 22:22.24 | Angayelle | did you try to look into the TimetoDie addon ? |
| 22:22.26 | Xyphoid | dbm etc keep a list of what counts as a boss internally |
| 22:22.33 | Xyphoid | on a per-instance basis |
| 22:22.41 | wordman | ^ why i was looking at dbm code |
| 22:23.13 | wordman | @Angayelle no but that looks cool |
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| 22:23.55 | Angayelle | it simply calculate the rate of losing hp of the boss and extrapolate the time remaining before it dies |
| 22:23.57 | wordman | tbh its still throwing me for a loop how in lua you dont specify int, string, unsigned int, etc |
| 22:24.15 | wordman | that'd be good for convincing my guild our dps is low... lol |
| 22:24.35 | wordman | hard to prove dps is low when you cant even make it to the enrage without dieing ; ) |
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| 22:28.40 | Jamash | Hey so do I need to talk to someone before uploading a developer tool with a .exe to WoWI, or should I just upload it and cross my fingers? |
| 22:29.00 | Dagmar | OMG MAH KEYS! |
| 22:29.05 | wordman | lol |
| 22:29.13 | Jamash | yeah, that |
| 22:29.15 | Seerah | Jamash: upload it and PM dolby and/or Shirik with the source |
| 22:29.17 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 22:29.23 | wordman | @Seerah: if i just add in DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("*Downtime: " ..minutes.."min "..seconds.."sec!*") do i need to make a new local frame or anything? |
| 22:29.24 | Jamash | the source is in the zip, is that sufficient? |
| 22:29.29 | wordman | i changed my code around... here's the pastey |
| 22:29.42 | Seerah | Jamash: yep :) |
| 22:29.48 | Jamash | ok, cool :) |
| 22:29.49 | Seerah | it may take a day or two |
| 22:29.52 | Jamash | sure, sure |
| 22:29.55 | Seerah | or, not |
| 22:29.55 | wordman | http://pastebin.com/CvTeFa43 |
| 22:30.19 | Seerah | wordman: a new frame for what? |
| 22:30.48 | wordman | for some reason i was able to call /script DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME... and it output my text but when I did it in lua i got no output |
| 22:30.56 | wordman | I can't tell if it's that or the if statement isn't getting traversed |
| 22:31.10 | Iriel | I'd suggest using print instead of the old way |
| 22:31.12 | Iriel | it's much easier |
| 22:31.23 | Iriel | print("Downtime:", minutes, "min", seconds, "sec!") |
| 22:31.26 | wordman | is it the same thing? just prints to default chat frame? |
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| 22:32.25 | Iriel | yes |
| 22:32.41 | wordman | i think seerah left lol crap |
| 22:32.42 | Seerah | weee! internet outage |
| 22:32.57 | Seerah | a new frame for what, wordman? |
| 22:33.08 | wordman | http://pastebin.com/CvTeFa43 |
| 22:33.27 | wordman | im using print now so it doesnt matter, i was worried that there was something about DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME that i didnt understand |
| 22:33.37 | Seerah | print is a shortcut for that |
| 22:33.41 | wordman | i cant tell if my if is getting traversed because im not getting my output |
| 22:33.41 | Seerah | also, get off of java :) |
| 22:33.55 | Seerah | you don't need the curly brackets except for when declaring tables |
| 22:34.15 | wordman | RAWR then the if ends after a line right... or is that java? lol |
| 22:34.22 | Seerah | and, unless I'm forgetting something, I have no clue what += is, either :) |
| 22:34.36 | Seerah | whitespace doesn't matter in Lua |
| 22:34.51 | wordman | x += 1 -> x = x + 1 |
| 22:34.59 | Seerah | if var then print("foo") end is the same thing as multiple lines |
| 22:35.15 | wordman | i was just realizing that because of the lack of ;'s |
| 22:35.30 | Seerah | ; is also unnecessary in Lua |
| 22:36.09 | wordman | ok well imma reload wow and try the print |
| 22:36.11 | Adys | http://www.fmylife.com/intimacy/13297808? |
| 22:36.15 | Adys | WHAT DO YOU THINK IT MEANS |
| 22:36.24 | Torhal | wordman: If you're concatenating, it isn't += |
| 22:36.25 | Torhal | It's .. |
| 22:36.27 | wordman | i just dont think the event = "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" is ever true |
| 22:36.29 | Torhal | string1 .. string2 |
| 22:36.36 | wordman | it's a # |
| 22:36.38 | wordman | not a string |
| 22:36.49 | Torhal | PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED happens when combat occurs. |
| 22:37.02 | Seerah | wordman: I've still never seen += |
| 22:37.07 | Angayelle | well just can't get the text to update at all |
| 22:37.09 | wordman | i'll just do it the standard way then |
| 22:37.11 | Seerah | x = x + 1 not x += 1 |
| 22:37.12 | Torhal | Seerah: It's C/C++ |
| 22:37.15 | Torhal | Heh |
| 22:37.23 | wordman | will it work in lua? |
| 22:37.26 | wordman | thats what matters lol |
| 22:37.26 | Torhal | No |
| 22:37.29 | wordman | kk >.< |
| 22:37.32 | wordman | i hate this already lol |
| 22:37.41 | wordman | wtb universal programming language woot woot |
| 22:37.44 | wordman | just like the god particle |
| 22:37.44 | Seerah | Lua for Lua, C++ for C_++ :) |
| 22:37.48 | Seerah | I can't type today |
| 22:38.01 | wordman | yea but for some reason at universities they think they can just teach you one thing and your g2g |
| 22:38.05 | wordman | you're* |
| 22:38.05 | Thunder_Child | hands Seeraha "welcome to the club" badge |
| 22:38.22 | Torhal | Eh, I come from a C/C++ background and I found it rather easy to grasp once I got past the fact that parens are unnecessary unless you're disambiguating, curlies make new tables, there's no += operator, and a few other things |
| 22:38.33 | Torhal | Oh, yeah: Semicolons are unnecessary |
| 22:38.36 | Torhal | They work, though. |
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| 22:39.15 | wordman | I come from a game design background that dabbles in programming and scripting lol |
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| 22:40.30 | wordman | i keep making all the changes and it still never works lol |
| 22:40.47 | Seerah | what does it look like now? |
| 22:40.54 | wordman | http://pastebin.com/wemBNXqT |
| 22:41.00 | Seerah | (and are you certain you don't have Lua errors hidden?) |
| 22:41.21 | wordman | i asked how do do that like a page or two up no one responded : ( |
| 22:41.31 | Seerah | it's in Interface Options |
| 22:41.39 | wordman | i'll go check that |
| 22:42.17 | Seerah | start_time is nil the first time you enter combat |
| 22:42.23 | Adys | http://media.lelombrik.net/34001-34500/7edc9bd824b43509771f8c22b868511d7957e7f3.jpg |
| 22:42.23 | Adys | haha. |
| 22:42.50 | Seerah | and you have downtime instead of down_time in one place |
| 22:42.58 | Seerah | 2 |
| 22:43.11 | wordman | ... |
| 22:43.13 | Seerah | 3 places >< |
| 22:43.18 | wordman | i'm going to fix that and pretend you didnt say anything |
| 22:44.09 | wordman | im also going to pretend that the check box was already filled for show lua errors... lol |
| 22:44.34 | Angayelle | the frame which contain the text i want to update is contained within a bigger one, should i make a reference of it with my SetText command ? |
| 22:44.34 | Torhal | And then you'll pretend that you're not pretending, and it will all magically be fine. |
| 22:45.16 | Angayelle | cause i have no lua errors, my xml is validated but the upadet is not working still |
| 22:45.19 | Torhal | Angayelle: You don't care about the bigger frame. You care about the frame with the fontstring. Actually, you just care about the fontstring. |
| 22:45.29 | wordman | well i can now verify at least that i have no lua errors |
| 22:45.38 | Seerah | Angayelle: how exactly is it not working? Is it setting the text once, but not updating it? Still no errors? (I still think you should have gotten one earlier) What does your code look like now? |
| 22:45.44 | Torhal | wordman: So start using debug prints |
| 22:45.45 | Angayelle | mmmmh then i got it right, i still wonder why it doesn't update |
| 22:45.56 | Torhal | print("At point A") |
| 22:46.14 | wordman | good idea is good idea |
| 22:46.17 | Angayelle | http://www.pastey.net/141142-fcb7 LUA http://www.pastey.net/141139-46sb XML |
| 22:46.24 | Seerah | Is your .lua file being loaded by either the XML file or the TOC, Angayelle?... |
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| 22:47.19 | Seerah | Angayelle: and WHEN are you calling UnitAura()? |
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| 22:48.44 | Angayelle | gonna link the whole code |
| 22:49.10 | Seerah | thanks. :) Cause, as we said earlier, we're not psychic :) |
| 22:49.18 | wordman | Ok I've checked that my ToC contains DownTimer.lua and I've also checked that it's in my addon folder and checked to load in-game. |
| 22:49.26 | wordman | It's currently not printing the following print statements. |
| 22:49.36 | Seerah | I don't say that to be rude, but a lot of people don't think that what they have in their code is relevant past one or two lines ;) |
| 22:50.13 | Seerah | wordman: if it's not printing, then that's not being called at all, or it's failing before it gets there (errors) |
| 22:50.16 | wordman | http://pastebin.com/v7jBDWMH |
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| 22:50.25 | wordman | i enabled lua errors tho |
| 22:51.00 | Seerah | wordman: put print("Addon Loaded") at the very top of your Lua file. Does it show it? |
| 22:51.13 | Torhal | wordman: Try this...in that function, insert a print("I'm in OnEvent!") before the first if |
| 22:51.20 | Torhal | Foof. |
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| 22:51.32 | Seerah | hahah |
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| 22:52.11 | wordman | I should see it on login right? |
| 22:52.11 | Seerah | yep |
| 22:52.20 | wordman | i got nothing : ( |
| 22:52.26 | Seerah | then you're file is not loading |
| 22:52.33 | wordman | odd |
| 22:52.46 | Torhal | Case-sensitivity FTW. |
| 22:53.06 | Seerah | what is the name of your Lua file? What is the name you put in the TOC? Did you create or rename this Lua file while in-game and NOT exit out completely afterwards? |
| 22:53.09 | wordman | DownTimer.lua in the ToC and DownTimer.lua for the lua file |
| 22:53.17 | wordman | I completely exited out |
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| 22:53.32 | Seerah | Okay... What is the name of your TOC file and the name of your addon's folder? |
| 22:53.58 | Angayelle | http://www.pastey.net/141143-3ugf full lua http://www.pastey.net/141144-16qx full xml |
| 22:54.02 | wordman | DownTimer.toc and DownTimer for the folder |
| 22:54.07 | Seerah | something's wrong here, otherwise you would have been getting TONS of errors this whole time |
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| 22:54.45 | Seerah | what is the path to your addon's folder, and what is the path that your shortcut to WoW is using? |
| 22:54.48 | wordman | toc pastey |
| 22:54.48 | wordman | http://pastebin.com/KqZadZBj |
| 22:55.09 | wordman | my other addons work? |
| 22:55.16 | wordman | the path is... |
| 22:55.19 | Seerah | humor me :) |
| 22:55.27 | wordman | C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\Interface\AddOns\DownTimer |
| 22:55.31 | Seerah | (you can right-click your shortcut for WoW and see its target) |
| 22:55.35 | wordman | shortcut to wow is... |
| 22:56.02 | wordman | "C:\Users\Public\Games\World of Warcraft\Launcher.exe" |
| 22:56.37 | Seerah | Thanks for humoring me, but it does seem correct. |
| 22:56.45 | Mirrormn | Is that "downtime" as in "time spent during combat but not casting due to lag/movement" or "time spent in a raid waiting for people to pull/afk/etc"? |
| 22:57.26 | wordman | 2nd one |
| 22:57.59 | wordman | i have a hard time believing my addon isn't loading at all thats crazy |
| 22:58.05 | Angayelle | usually frame:register are at the start of file no ? |
| 22:58.21 | Seerah | Angayelle: nah |
| 22:58.28 | Xyphoid | that'd be nice for the people who don't drink until a ready check comes up and then complain about mana |
| 22:58.30 | Seerah | doesn't really matter |
| 22:59.02 | wordman | im running through and taking a 3rd and 4th look at all my files |
| 23:00.00 | Seerah | wordman: your addons showed in the addon list at character select? |
| 23:00.15 | Seerah | addon -s |
| 23:00.21 | wordman | yes |
| 23:00.21 | Mirrormn | if you have an xml file and a lua file, why does your .toc only specify a lua file? |
| 23:00.33 | wordman | i dont have an xml file i deleted it |
| 23:00.48 | PProvost | What does the TOC list? |
| 23:00.49 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXsTexVtnMQ |
| 23:00.54 | Mirrormn | oh I think I've confused you and Angayelle |
| 23:01.12 | Seerah | Angayelle: now... I don't use XML, but should the <Scripts> section be between the <Frame></Frame> tags? |
| 23:01.47 | Seerah | so it knows which frame the Scripts are for? |
| 23:02.04 | Angayelle | i did a test with only a frame and one UnitAura and it worked that way so |
| 23:02.18 | Angayelle | gonna try that |
| 23:03.14 | Angayelle | wow now i have tons of lua errors |
| 23:03.24 | wordman | i triple and quadruple checked everything |
| 23:03.36 | wordman | i WISH i had tons of lua errors lol |
| 23:03.40 | Angayelle | but it works woohoo |
| 23:03.50 | Thunder_Child | amazing, in attempting to paste an error from wow, i have created an error in pasty. |
| 23:03.53 | PProvost | wordman: what is being loaded by your .toc file? |
| 23:03.53 | Angayelle | gonna debug it now |
| 23:04.43 | wordman | http://pastebin.com/iwBC4uSu |
| 23:05.10 | Thunder_Child | Kaelten: can you edit other peoples pastes on wowace? |
| 23:05.34 | PProvost | wordman: remove the LoadOnDemand part and see what happens |
| 23:05.55 | wordman | k |
| 23:06.25 | Mirrormn | oh, PProvost, you found the problem |
| 23:06.39 | Seerah | crap, I just skimmed right over that part |
| 23:06.46 | Mirrormn | "LoadOnDemand: 1" will prevent it from loading on startup |
| 23:06.50 | Angayelle | ok it works completely now |
| 23:07.03 | wordman | ... |
| 23:07.08 | Seerah | Angayelle and wordman: "cheer!" |
| 23:07.13 | wordman | that was the most retarded thing ever lol thanks all |
| 23:07.16 | Angayelle | i can give you my third child seerah, interested ? |
| 23:07.27 | wordman | should be no problem now, im going to go uncomment my code |
| 23:07.28 | Seerah | nah, hubby and I aren't quite ready for kids yet |
| 23:07.31 | Seerah | maybe later ;) |
| 23:07.42 | Thunder_Child | thats because the 2 of you still are |
| 23:07.50 | Seerah | probably :p |
| 23:07.58 | Angayelle | thanks alot anyway |
| 23:08.04 | wordman | My logical thought process... loadondemand? sounds good. I want that set to true aka 1. |
| 23:08.05 | wordman | lol |
| 23:08.24 | Seerah | LoadOnDemand means to load when it's asked for instead of by default |
| 23:08.41 | Mirrormn | well, LoadOnDemand is a great feature - unless you want you addon to actually load on startup ^_^ |
| 23:08.42 | wordman | lol |
| 23:09.12 | Teomyr | when PLAYER_LOGIN fires and the player is in combat at that point (e.g. when reloading during a fight), the UI is not protected? |
| 23:09.17 | wordman | thanks so much everyone : ) |
| 23:09.45 | Seerah | Teomyr: no, if you're in combat, you're in lockdown |
| 23:10.08 | Seerah | which is why you have issues with things like unitframes and such when relogging during combat |
| 23:10.58 | Mirrormn | but it seems like some addons are able to circumvent that, which implies there might be some magic timing where you're allowed to set things up |
| 23:11.19 | Angayelle | oh btw one last question before going to sleep, is there a command to know the distance between you and your target ? didn't find on the wiki |
| 23:11.47 | Seerah | Angayelle: you cannot get the distance, only an approximation by using IsSpellInRange |
| 23:11.49 | Seerah | iirc |
| 23:11.54 | Seerah | !api IsSpellInRange |
| 23:11.55 | lua_bot | IsSpellInRange: Returns whether the player is in range to cast a spell on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsSpellInRange) |
| 23:12.00 | Seerah | yep, that's it |
| 23:12.14 | Mirrormn | currently, you can use the map position API to get absolute positions of two friendly units and then calculate the distance between them |
| 23:12.17 | Angayelle | i could then check different spells and get the approximation |
| 23:12.21 | Mirrormn | doesn't work for hostile targets |
| 23:12.30 | Mirrormn | and from what I've heard, won't be allowed in Cata |
| 23:12.58 | Teomyr | Seerah: i was thinking that too about being in combat, but on beta at least this doesn't appear to be the case |
| 23:13.12 | Angayelle | night all, thanks again |
| 23:13.23 | Seerah | well, I think they were fiddling with the secure headers, but I'm absolutely no expert |
| 23:13.24 | Teomyr | Seerah: i'm printing InCombatLockdown() to the chat frame at PLAYER_LOGIN and it says nil, even while in combat |
| 23:13.44 | Seerah | that might be unintended, even, if it's doing that.... |
| 23:13.50 | Torhal | Angayelle: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/librangecheck-2-0.aspx |
| 23:13.56 | Angayelle | oh thanks |
| 23:13.57 | Mirrormn | I wrote a library one time that would attempt to sync position and UnitFacing information between multiple people using forced-direction channeled spells (like Arcane Missiles) to triangulate the position of a shared hostile target |
| 23:14.02 | Angayelle | bookmarking this one |
| 23:14.29 | Mirrormn | but in the end there just aren't enough forced-direction channeled spells being used in your typical raid for it to have actually returned accurate data, so I scrapped it :( |
| 23:15.00 | Angayelle | a clever thought nonetheless |
| 23:15.32 | Mirrormn | yar, I thought so |
| 23:16.23 | Mirrormn | that was back in the days of AVR and I was trying to find a way to put an AVR circle on Sindragosa which would give an accurate area of danger for her deathgrip/frost explosion thing |
| 23:17.42 | Angayelle | going to bed for real this time |
| 23:17.45 | Angayelle | bye |
| 23:17.56 | Mirrormn | gnight |
| 23:18.26 | Torhal | Mirrormn: Have you looked at HUDMap? |
| 23:18.53 | Mirrormn | yes, I ran it for a while, but then it was bugged for HLK, so I disabled it, and then realized I didn't actually need it |
| 23:19.25 | Mirrormn | for sindragosa it estimates the center of the boss, and from my experience, can be fairly innacurate |
| 23:19.32 | Mirrormn | up to 5 yards off or so |
| 23:20.09 | Mirrormn | my suspicion is that it just centers the warning circle at the point wherever the player is at some semi-arbitrary time soon after the initial pull |
| 23:20.38 | Mirrormn | so if the player was too close to the boss when pulled (and thus spent less time in the air), then the player was already moving when it marks its circle |
| 23:20.45 | Mirrormn | but I didn't look at the code |
| 23:22.12 | Mirrormn | I was *really* interested in all sorts of position-based addon projects a couple months ago, but ever since the news that Blizzard was going to attempt to remove that functionality in Cata, I kind of decided "what's the point" |
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| 23:25.40 | SqueeG | poke tekkub |
| 23:28.20 | Mirrormn | man, my sister's boyfriend made some homestyle mac n cheese for dinner |
| 23:28.25 | Mirrormn | it is unbelievable delicious |
| 23:28.30 | Mirrormn | *bly |
| 23:29.17 | Thunder_Child | i hope it had tuna and peas for your sake |
| 23:29.40 | Mirrormn | I hope you're kidding for yours! |
| 23:29.54 | Thunder_Child | pasta+cheese+tuna+peas is amazing |
| 23:30.09 | Thunder_Child | the amazing kind of amazing |
| 23:30.16 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt sound like it though |
| 23:30.19 | Mirrormn | I guess if you wanted to eat pasta+cheese+tuna+peas |
| 23:30.27 | Mirrormn | but I just want to eat pasta+cheese |
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| 23:30.44 | Thunder_Child | ah, but once you have had this, you would not! |
| 23:31.11 | SqueeG | tuna ees gross :p |
| 23:31.13 | Mirrormn | I dunno, I'm extremely resistant to foods I'm not used to, even if they are objectively good |
| 23:31.43 | Thunder_Child | it's never good to be close minded |
| 23:32.07 | Mirrormn | if you're close minded, it feels pretty good |
| 23:32.42 | A-KO | eh, liking what you like food-wise isn't being close-minded :P |
| 23:33.04 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: Damn it. Now I have this tune stuck in my head that I somehow manufactured on the spot "Pasta plus cheese plus tuna plus peas!" |
| 23:33.32 | Thunder_Child | Torhal: i aim to annoy. |
| 23:33.34 | Mirrormn | think of it like a creepy chant of a thousand grade-school children |
| 23:33.47 | Mirrormn | all slowly advancing towards you holding casserole dishes |
| 23:33.48 | Torhal | weeps. |
| 23:34.02 | Thunder_Child | A-KO: thats not what Mirrormn said. |
| 23:34.23 | Thunder_Child | Mirrormn: yes, from inside i bet it does feel good :p |
| 23:34.48 | Mirrormn | I should have put "objectively" in quotes, since it's difficult/impossible to objectively measure the goodness of food |
| 23:34.57 | Thunder_Child | actually, you make it in a pot |
| 23:35.07 | Thunder_Child | there is no baking, it's made like mac n cheese |
| 23:35.22 | Mirrormn | this keeps sounding worse and worse |
| 23:35.37 | Mirrormn | boiled mac n cheese sucks, baked is where it's at |
| 23:37.31 | Thunder_Child | then you are not making mac and cheese |
| 23:37.49 | Thunder_Child | you will never see a kraft bax say "put in oven" |
| 23:37.53 | Thunder_Child | box* |
| 23:37.54 | Maldivia | nevcairiel ? |
| 23:38.08 | Mirrormn | all right, you're clearly the Devil in disguise if you spout such blasphemy |
| 23:38.12 | Mirrormn | GET BEHIND ME SATAN |
| 23:38.28 | Thunder_Child | wait, you want satan 'behind' you? |
| 23:38.35 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: ding :P |
| 23:38.46 | Mirrormn | it's a biblical reference, jeez =S |
| 23:38.57 | Thunder_Child | yea...thats not on my reading list |
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| 23:40.53 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: you're kidding, right |
| 23:41.21 | Maldivia | no, 2h 55m for 84-85 |
| 23:41.27 | Gnarfoz | by just questing? |
| 23:41.30 | Maldivia | yep |
| 23:42.01 | Gnarfoz | that's ~37k exp PER MINUTE |
| 23:42.07 | Gnarfoz | what the hell were you doing |
| 23:42.08 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:43.35 | Maldivia | hmm, 37k/min sounds low... |
| 23:43.54 | Maldivia | then simply grinding would be as faster, if not faster |
| 23:44.23 | Mirrormn | 37k/min low? |
| 23:45.27 | Gnarfoz | I doubt I could kill enough mobs per minute to reach 37k/min |
| 23:45.31 | Mirrormn | even if you killed a mob every 10 seconds you'd need each mob to give you over 6k experience |
| 23:46.07 | Mirrormn | and you'd probably spend 10s per mob just walking between them, let alone killing |
| 23:46.20 | Gnarfoz | L81 mobs give 9800exp for me, and that is with rested, so 4900... that'd mean 8 mobs per minute or a max of 7.5s per mob |
| 23:46.35 | Gnarfoz | yeah, I doubt grinding that much is possible |
| 23:46.42 | Mirrormn | hrm, that sounds a lot higher than the last time I played on beta |
| 23:46.54 | Mirrormn | I seem to recall 5-6k rested per mob |
| 23:46.55 | Maldivia | well, there are plenty of spots where you can easily chain pull, problem is, you need the questing gear for the higher level places to do it |
| 23:47.07 | Maldivia | I was getting ~6k/mob in highlands |
| 23:47.13 | Maldivia | unrested |
| 23:47.13 | Gnarfoz | well, I'm 84 and I'm still doing Vashj'ir |
| 23:47.14 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:47.20 | Maldivia | why ? |
| 23:47.26 | Gnarfoz | but then I spent 2 weeks in teleport limbo, gaining full rested exp |
| 23:47.40 | Gnarfoz | and did like... 8 instance runs or something |
| 23:48.00 | Gnarfoz | so, yeah, I've only done Hyjal and am currently doing Vashj'ir |
| 23:48.13 | Gnarfoz | I doubt that's how it's going to be on live, lacking rested exp and people to do instances with |
| 23:48.33 | Maldivia | anyway, final tally, level 1-85 worgen warlock: 2d 18h 51m 45s |
| 23:48.53 | Gnarfoz | I can only say hats off to that |
| 23:48.54 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:49.20 | Maldivia | although I doubt I would be able to do it in a single sitting :P |
| 23:49.48 | Gnarfoz | well, sleep is ok, just not too much ;) |
| 23:50.15 | Maldivia | heh |
| 23:51.05 | Maldivia | if I only played with rested, I could probably bring that number down, but then it would take like a year :P |
| 23:51.33 | Gnarfoz | obviously |
| 23:51.48 | Gnarfoz | I wonder who'll do realm first Worgen on my realm |
| 23:52.19 | Gnarfoz | are you locked into the worgen start zone until you've done some specific quest, btw? |
| 23:52.25 | Maldivia | well, I won't get it on my realm, since I'm levelling my level 80s first |
| 23:52.42 | Maldivia | think you can be summoned out |
| 23:52.54 | Gnarfoz | 1-60 via RAF level granting, then! |
| 23:52.56 | Maldivia | but if you do so, you wont get your racials :P |
| 23:52.59 | Gnarfoz | takes about... 60s |
| 23:53.06 | Gnarfoz | skipping 60 levels > racials |
| 23:53.07 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 23:53.12 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 23:53.43 | Maldivia | I don't think you're elig for server first, if you use RAF |
| 23:53.55 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: yes. You cannot leave. |
| 23:54.02 | Gnarfoz | I din't think there's eligibility for realm firsts, at all |
| 23:54.11 | Gnarfoz | by which I mean: anyone is eligible |
| 23:54.21 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: ok, so it's 12-60 via RAF? :P |
| 23:54.28 | foxlit | The phrasing of those feats is "completed a specific quest and first to 80" |
| 23:54.49 | foxlit | so you'll have to do the starting zone anyway. Dunno about RAF. |
| 23:54.54 | Gnarfoz | hrm |
| 23:55.00 | Gnarfoz | 80 was pretty blanket on that |
| 23:55.01 | Xyphoid | it basically eliminates death knights |
| 23:55.11 | Gnarfoz | huh? DKs were just as eligible |
| 23:55.51 | foxlit | wrong DKs :) |
| 23:56.09 | Gnarfoz | now I'm confused :p |
| 23:56.23 | foxlit | The problem here is the racial first-to-85 achievements. |
| 23:56.40 | foxlit | Worgen death knights cannot get them, as they do not do the worgen starting zone. |
| 23:56.48 | foxlit | [same goes for goblins] |
| 23:57.35 | Gnarfoz | funnily enough, wowhead does not list any racial realm first to 85 FoS's |
| 23:57.49 | foxlit | All death knights were eligible for first-to-80 because everyone interested could start at 70 :) |
| 23:58.25 | Gnarfoz | so, there's just goblin and worgen racial realm first |
| 23:58.26 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 23:58.32 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: they list them all |
| 23:58.43 | Gnarfoz | http://db.mmo-champion.com/search/all/realm_first_85/ :< |
| 23:58.44 | Maldivia | ohh wait, that's classes not races |
| 23:59.12 | Gnarfoz | I've got no hope to compete with idiots who take turns to eliminate "downtime" (i.e. sleep) |
| 23:59.41 | Maldivia | well, you don't need sleep for a single sitting :P |
