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| 00:06.12 | tem | the hell? beta keeps kicking me offline every ~30s |
| 00:06.38 | tem | if it's not one thing it's another :( |
| 00:06.38 | Lunessa | Ditto |
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| 00:07.55 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet for a buggy Tuesday. |
| 00:08.00 | tem | heh |
| 00:08.03 | tem | Lost Istles offline |
| 00:08.17 | tem | WHY DO I KEEP PUTTING A T IN THAT WORD? |
| 00:08.18 | tem | *rage* |
| 00:08.44 | Lunessa | offers +tem a chill pill and a cookie. |
| 00:10.05 | tem | Looks like all the realms are periodically dropping offline |
| 00:10.08 | tem | neat |
| 00:10.43 | Lunessa | Loading screen Tip: "DEV TEST ENTRY" |
| 00:10.51 | tem | haha |
| 00:11.03 | Lopeppeppy | is baking cookies! |
| 00:20.29 | Jerub | bwahahahahah |
| 00:20.30 | Jerub | http://i.imgur.com/6uFZM.jpg |
| 00:21.56 | Dagmar | What's so funny |
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| 00:42.37 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: what kind? |
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| 00:43.17 | kd3 | jerub; lmao |
| 00:43.56 | Thunder_Child | oh look, i am buying another steam game i am not going to have time to play |
| 00:44.02 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 00:44.02 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 00:44.24 | Amarande | T_C: Dragon Age? :) |
| 00:44.38 | Thunder_Child | Amarande: no, i dont actually like that game |
| 00:44.56 | Thunder_Child | Cities XL |
| 00:45.05 | Thunder_Child | it's 75% off |
| 00:50.10 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: http://www.sparklecartel.com/index.php |
| 00:50.27 | Cairenn | pretty! |
| 00:50.35 | Thunder_Child | thought you might like that |
| 00:52.00 | Amarande | Heya Cairenn :) |
| 00:52.08 | Amarande | *sigh* half my friends are addicted to glee. :( |
| 00:52.12 | Cairenn | hi Amarande |
| 00:52.16 | Amarande | How's you? |
| 00:52.47 | Cairenn | I's |
| 00:52.48 | Cairenn | You? |
| 00:56.37 | Amarande | I'm good. :) |
| 00:59.41 | kd3 | hm, ptr 13082 is on the mirrors |
| 01:09.03 | ckknight | Amarande: I like glee |
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| 01:43.39 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5649295/id-rather-fingerblast-a-lamprey-than-use-this-typad-ipad-keyboard-case win |
| 01:44.56 | Arrowmaster | Jerub: ¡Con calma! |
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| 01:57.28 | Kraps | ckknight: many of their covers are win |
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| 02:03.12 | ckknight | I'm not fond of their pro-recycling campaign |
| 02:05.05 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: ? |
| 02:05.07 | Jerub | oh, right |
| 02:05.14 | Jerub | the joke thing i posted |
| 02:06.12 | Dagmar | Wow he's pretty pissed about that slipcover |
| 02:08.27 | cog|away | Fisker: 3d star wars! |
| 02:08.36 | cogwheel | 3 fucking d star wars |
| 02:08.40 | cogwheel | http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/09/28/star-wars-saga-in-3d-will-start-in-theaters-in-2012/ |
| 02:08.58 | Dagmar | Too late. |
| 02:09.07 | Dagmar | Already seen it on LSD. Much better viewing experience. |
| 02:09.12 | Dagmar | Also... cheaper. |
| 02:09.23 | cogwheel | ok i'm so dumb |
| 02:09.33 | Kraps | cogwheel: can i make fun of nerds now? |
| 02:09.35 | cogwheel | i'm 12 and what is this? |
| 02:09.46 | cogwheel | i googled lsd -_- |
| 02:09.53 | cogwheel | out of instinct |
| 02:10.01 | cogwheel | even though i know what it is |
| 02:10.18 | cogwheel | Kraps: yes. |
| 02:10.23 | cogwheel | i'll join ya |
| 02:11.22 | Arrowmaster | 3d star wars will look like crap |
| 02:11.39 | cogwheel | that south park episode on indiana jones springs to mind... |
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| 02:13.39 | cogwheel | i think i'll wait until ep3 |
| 02:13.49 | cogwheel | i got enough of 2 working at a movie theater... |
| 02:13.53 | cogwheel | and 1 is ... well... 1 |
| 02:16.24 | Thunder_Child | i worked the opening of...1 i think |
| 02:16.38 | Thunder_Child | maybe it was 2, i cant remember |
| 02:17.35 | cogwheel | ... "mmm, celtic sea salt caramels from Montana" |
| 02:17.58 | cogwheel | since when have either "celtic" or "sea" been associated with Montana? |
| 02:21.07 | dankna | and uh |
| 02:21.08 | dankna | caramel |
| 02:21.09 | dankna | does not |
| 02:21.10 | dankna | contain |
| 02:21.11 | dankna | salt |
| 02:21.16 | dankna | I have made it! I know! |
| 02:21.33 | Thunder_Child | you mean the one you made doesnt contain salt |
| 02:21.36 | dankna | yes. |
| 02:21.42 | dankna | edible caramel does not contain salt. |
| 02:21.58 | dankna | if we wish to be pedantic. |
| 02:21.58 | kd3 | hugs his salted caramel hot chocolates |
| 02:22.01 | Thunder_Child | i am quite sure if you put salt in it you could eat it |
| 02:22.14 | dankna | palatable? |
| 02:22.16 | Dagmar | THen it's called "taffy" |
| 02:22.27 | kd3 | one of the few overly-expensive starbucks drinks I will actually purchase |
| 02:26.40 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlS_Rnb5WM4&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 02:26.48 | cogwheel | dankna: i'm sure there's at least a dash for seasoning |
| 02:26.59 | cogwheel | a little bit of salt goes a long way towards enhancing flavors |
| 02:27.04 | cogwheel | without making it salty |
| 02:27.18 | dankna | mm... maybe. (btw, hi! it's all your fault :D) |
| 02:27.27 | cogwheel | NOT ANY MOAR!!111ONE |
| 02:27.30 | cogwheel | :P |
| 02:27.35 | dankna | oh, did they change it back? |
| 02:27.43 | cogwheel | i heard the last patch fixed it |
| 02:27.45 | kd3 | yes, just a day or two ago |
| 02:27.45 | dankna | cool. |
| 02:28.00 | kd3 | heard? I put it in the email? |
| 02:28.07 | kd3 | s/email?/email!/ |
| 02:28.20 | dankna | cute bot. |
| 02:28.23 | dankna | patpats purl |
| 02:28.23 | cogwheel | what's this eee may ull you're goin' on about, eh sonny? |
| 02:28.36 | cogwheel | ~bonsnack |
| 02:28.40 | kd3 | ~botsnack |
| 02:28.40 | purl | kd3: aw, gee |
| 02:28.51 | cogwheel | kd3: jinx |
| 02:28.58 | cogwheel | and purl fu |
| 02:29.03 | kd3 | at least I got it right <3 |
| 02:29.03 | cogwheel | oh i fail |
| 02:29.31 | dankna | so yeah. has anybody else programmatically moved the default chat-frame docking area? it's a vegetarian pita. |
| 02:29.53 | dankna | it keeps getting moved back and sized wrong and prevented from going all the way to the edge and stuff |
| 02:30.00 | cogwheel | purl bonsnack is <reply>om nom nom. Merçi monsieur. C'est bon. |
| 02:30.00 | purl | cogwheel: i'm not going to learn illegal characters |
| 02:30.04 | dankna | I mean, I got it working, but it was most of my morning >< |
| 02:30.30 | cogwheel | purl: but i even used my international keyboard layout to make the ç just to be pedantic! |
| 02:30.30 | purl | You even used my international keyboard layout to make the ç just to be pedantic!? |
| 02:30.39 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 02:30.42 | kd3 | lol |
| 02:31.01 | dankna | purl: Do you say anything amusing if people accuse you of speaking in Markov chains? |
| 02:31.01 | purl | yes, I say anything amusing if people accuse you of speaking in Markov chains. |
| 02:31.22 | cogwheel | is amused |
| 02:31.27 | dankna | me too |
| 02:31.32 | Dagmar | ILLEGAL! |
| 02:31.34 | cogwheel | so ambivalent about SW:3D |
| 02:31.41 | cogwheel | soooooo ambivalent |
| 02:32.15 | dankna | sorry, SW:3D? |
| 02:32.16 | cogwheel | like, i see maybe 1 or 2 2d movies a year and that's only because we're invited... |
| 02:32.20 | dankna | oh, a movie |
| 02:32.26 | cogwheel | http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/09/28/star-wars-saga-in-3d-will-start-in-theaters-in-2012/ |
| 02:32.28 | dankna | I'm not a big movie buff either |
| 02:32.34 | dankna | wow, could it get any more gimmicky |
| 02:32.47 | cogwheel | see, we have a reasonably large hd flat screen |
| 02:32.59 | cogwheel | and pretty damn good 5.1 surround sound |
| 02:33.02 | Arrowmaster | George Lucas watched the massive success of âAvatarâ and âAlice in Wonderlandâ in the 3-D format and decided it was time for a return of the Jedi. |
| 02:33.06 | Arrowmaster | im sorry but WHAT? |
| 02:33.26 | Arrowmaster | i thought Alice in Wonderland was one of the worst 3d flops |
| 02:33.27 | cogwheel | who wants to sit in a sticky, crowded, noisy, stinky (esp to people who've worked in them) movie theater? |
| 02:33.34 | cogwheel | over-priced* |
| 02:33.39 | dankna | I concur fully |
| 02:33.52 | cogwheel | NEVER sit in the back row |
| 02:34.04 | dankna | it's okay if you have a troop of friends along, I guess, but even so, the amenities are better in the living room, and the viewing angle is the same |
| 02:34.24 | cogwheel | (unless you're into getting covered in strangers'........ <this sentence left intentionally unfinished>) |
| 02:34.41 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: it's ok to sit in the back if you are not there to watch the movie |
| 02:34.51 | dankna | this blank intentionally left spaced |
| 02:35.07 | dankna | pardon. |
| 02:35.27 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: in which case see parenthesied (??) caveat |
| 02:35.44 | Dagmar | WOW |
| 02:35.54 | cogwheel | SC2 |
| 02:35.55 | Dagmar | This new ACS:Law stuff is *hot* |
| 02:36.10 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: well it did say strangers |
| 02:36.12 | Dagmar | Absolutely freaking *awesome* how much trouble they're in |
| 02:36.30 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: yes, even more reason not to do anything like that there yourself... |
| 02:36.34 | cogwheel | more risk of exposure |
| 02:36.43 | Dagmar | It's one thing to be running a shakedown racket to blackmail P2P users |
| 02:36.54 | Thunder_Child | i was talking a bit more knowledgeable in the carnal sense |
| 02:37.10 | Dagmar | ...but no... they werne't satisfied there. They had to actually piss off the wrong people who then exposed the fact (through internal emails leaked) that they *knew* it's a scam. |
| 02:37.11 | cogwheel | not exposure to people seeing you |
| 02:37.19 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: some people like the posibility of exposure |
| 02:37.21 | cogwheel | exposure to the leavings of those who *ahem* came before |
| 02:37.34 | Thunder_Child | so bring a blanket |
| 02:37.42 | cogwheel | that works too ;) |
| 02:37.45 | Dagmar | ...then they screwed up and allowed the names and addresses of over 4,000 people they'd baselessly accused to be leaked on the web. |
| 02:37.52 | cogwheel | but don't forget the projectionist can see pretty much the entire back row |
| 02:37.53 | Dagmar | People they accused of pirating porno |
| 02:38.07 | Dagmar | Suuuuch a lawsuit lol |
| 02:38.18 | cogwheel | *knowing look* |
| 02:38.34 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: depends on the theater |
| 02:38.39 | Dagmar | I can see why Sky cut them off. They don't want to be anywhere _near_ when that legal blast hits |
| 02:38.41 | cogwheel | true |
| 02:39.02 | Jerub | url to this thing? |
| 02:39.24 | dankna | http://www.google.com/search?q=ACS:Law&BtnI=z |
| 02:39.29 | dankna | oh |
| 02:39.36 | dankna | my &BtnI=z trick no longer works :( |
| 02:39.38 | Dagmar | Oh! http://www.slyck.com/story2064_ISP_Sky_Broadband_Cuts_off_ACSLaw |
| 02:39.43 | dankna | that was supposed to make it an "I'm feeling lucky" link |
| 02:39.47 | Thunder_Child | actually it would be www.thisthing.com |
| 02:40.16 | dankna | parked site |
| 02:40.28 | Thunder_Child | i was refering to "<Jerub> url to this thing?" |
| 02:40.36 | Thunder_Child | i am rather litteral |
| 02:40.40 | Thunder_Child | it amuses me |
| 02:40.41 | dankna | yes, I got it, belatedly |
| 02:45.09 | Thunder_Child | hmm...i just killed a cow with a feather |
| 02:45.30 | Dagmar | You cowpoker you. |
| 02:46.31 | Dagmar | I would somewhat like to verbally assault Notch with a large picture of a cow (perhaps in real size) over the issue of COWS THAT SOMEHOW HAVE NO LEATHER ON THEM. |
| 02:46.52 | Dagmar | There's no reason for that in this game |
| 02:47.15 | Dagmar | You should be able to get at least one hide off every cow, as well as at least one bundle of cloth off a sheep |
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| 02:51.59 | Torhal | s/in this game/in any game/ <-- fixed. |
| 02:52.07 | Torhal | Fucking WoW with their headless mobs. |
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| 02:55.55 | Thunder_Child | "Damit bob, why do we keep finding the blind basilisks" |
| 02:58.40 | dankna | to some extent it's justifiable as "you destroyed it accidentally while you were, you know, hacking randomly with a sword" |
| 02:58.44 | dankna | but yes |
| 02:59.36 | Thunder_Child | because you coundly be smart enough to know that if you want the eyes you "DON'T HIT IT IN THE HEAD" |
| 02:59.43 | Thunder_Child | could not* |
| 02:59.55 | dankna | well, it would certainly be at a penalty to hit |
| 03:00.03 | dankna | in a tabletop game that's how you'd handle it |
| 03:00.59 | dankna | Dwarf Fortress actually has an awe-inspiringly-detailed combat engine |
| 03:01.24 | dankna | you can (except that you can't directly do this as a player, because you control the entire colony as a unit) hack off a limb and use it as a club |
| 03:01.33 | dankna | and the game knows how many remaining limbs the creature has and what they're used for |
| 03:01.47 | dankna | or is DF taboo to talk about in here? |
| 03:02.00 | Thunder_Child | very few things are taboo arond here |
| 03:02.03 | Thunder_Child | around* |
| 03:02.06 | dankna | I also go to an indie game channel and they're all "stop talking about WoW, WoW is the least indie thing ever" |
| 03:02.18 | dankna | so I'm like *cough cough* I meant to say Dwarf Fortress |
| 03:02.24 | dankna | cool cool. |
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| 03:07.43 | Kraps | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/underdev/ |
| 03:09.36 | cogwheel | "Gods don't kill people. People with gods kill people." |
| 03:09.44 | dankna | hah cute |
| 03:10.28 | Dagmar | Kraps: Where's it say that? |
| 03:10.39 | Kraps | say what? |
| 03:11.23 | cogwheel | ~weather ksts |
| 03:12.10 | Kraps | Dagmar: cogwheel is just spewing some random hatred of religion |
| 03:12.17 | Kraps | :p |
| 03:12.49 | Dagmar | Kraps: Ah... Heheh... Need more caffiene, but I think you probably know that by now. :) |
| 03:15.46 | cogwheel | :) |
| 03:15.51 | cogwheel | mmmm caffeine |
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| 03:21.26 | Kraps | citiesxl shut down the online portion back in february, wtf |
| 03:24.02 | Kraps | because, y'know, that was the major selling point |
| 03:24.20 | Thunder_Child | not to me |
| 03:24.42 | Kraps | did you buy it? |
| 03:25.03 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 03:25.11 | Kraps | is it good? |
| 03:25.18 | Thunder_Child | still downloading |
| 03:25.25 | Thunder_Child | going to take another hour or so |
| 03:25.42 | Kraps | ah |
| 03:26.04 | Dagmar | Kraps: A shame there's no way we can sell them short |
| 03:26.29 | Kraps | hmm? |
| 03:27.22 | Dagmar | Focus Home Interactive |
| 03:27.38 | Yssaril | kd3: what was the link to the new wow maps on wowwiki? i cant seam to find it |
| 03:27.38 | Dagmar | They're releasing Cities XL on Oct 14th |
| 03:27.47 | kd3 | [[Cataclysm map comparison]] |
| 03:28.03 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cataclysm_map_comparison |
| 03:28.08 | kd3 | which has a link to the instance maps too |
| 03:28.23 | Dagmar | Dodgy gameplay, and the previous release bailing on _subscribers_ after only about a _year_? Wow. There's a beautiful sunset for that fail, in the making. |
| 03:28.32 | Yssaril | kd3: nice thanks (bookmarked) |
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| 03:34.49 | Dagmar | pierut; Exactly what it sounds like |
| 03:37.19 | mikma | farts? |
| 03:38.15 | Dagmar | er no. |
| 03:38.24 | Dagmar | Anderson Cooper was especially epic tonight |
| 03:38.40 | Dagmar | He had an internet troll to call to the carpet. |
| 03:39.37 | mikma | well, pierut means farts, in finnish =) |
| 03:40.04 | Dagmar | Really? Hehehe that's a guy's 'nym. |
| 03:40.31 | mikma | lolso, you can imagine why this was so funny: |
| 03:40.36 | mikma | 06:34 <Dagmar> pierut; Exactly what it sounds like |
| 03:40.58 | Dagmar | Now I'm trying to get the guy to explain WTF |
| 03:41.04 | Jerub | what's cities XL like? |
| 03:41.14 | Dagmar | Jerub: Not released yet? |
| 03:41.18 | Dagmar | <pierut> i didn't know that when i made it up though |
| 03:41.28 | Kraps | so katy perry was almost on sesame street... |
| 03:41.36 | Jerub | steam says it was released 9th oct 2009... |
| 03:41.48 | Kraps | Dagmar: cities XL 2011 |
| 03:41.59 | Kraps | is not released yet |
| 03:43.03 | Kraps | "THIS GAME DOESN'T WORKS!!!" <--- forum topic |
| 03:43.26 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 03:43.34 | Dagmar | God only knows what that kid downloaded |
| 03:44.44 | Kemayo | Has it been found out which achievements are getting Feat-of-Strength'd when Cata launches? |
| 03:45.08 | Torhal | Kemayo: "Log in without a queue." is one, I believe... |
| 03:45.10 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:45.35 | Kraps | it seems to be in bad shape though: massive memory leaks, lots of moderate to severe bugs that will never get fixed etc |
| 03:46.05 | Jerub | Kemayo: the rumor on my realm is that glory of the hero is FOS'd. |
| 03:46.13 | Jerub | Kemayo: so there's a huge rush of people getting heroic achieves. |
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| 03:51.59 | Dagmar | "FOS'd"? |
| 03:52.26 | Dagmar | Oh nevermind |
| 03:52.54 | Dagmar | So they're not taking the points away, they're just converting htem to one-shot achievements |
| 03:53.44 | Jerub | Dagmar: yeah, but there's a lot of people (like me, before yesterday) that were 3 achievements from a red drake. |
| 03:54.09 | Amarande | and is it 4.0.1 or 4.0.3 that's going to change the achievements? |
| 03:54.12 | Legorol | You get red drake from wyrmrest quartermaster at exalted |
| 03:54.22 | Amarande | Legorol: Red proto, he means |
| 03:54.25 | Legorol | ah |
| 03:54.25 | Amarande | And I'm 6 achievements from mine |
| 03:54.31 | Amarande | three of them in oculus *sigh* |
| 03:54.35 | Dagmar | Jerub: I'd *like* to care, but.... |
| 03:54.44 | Dagmar | I mean I might actually already have that achievement for all I know |
| 03:54.49 | Legorol | Amarande: at least those are actually easy to execute, if you get a group willing |
| 03:54.58 | Jerub | the oculus ones are easy. |
| 03:55.05 | Amarande | I need chaos theory, less-rabi, zombiefest, experienced drake rider (only need emerald), amber void, and emerald void |
| 03:55.06 | Dagmar | Oh shit, I should go buy that red drake then. lol |
| 03:55.16 | Amarande | Jerub: yeah, the main thing is to convince people to go for them :S |
| 03:55.22 | Legorol | all those are easy, except for less-rabi |
| 03:55.24 | Amarande | people don't seem to like doing amber void very much |
| 03:55.27 | Legorol | less-rabi is a major pain |
| 03:55.36 | Dagmar | Less-rabi just needs two maybe three people with interrupts |
| 03:55.46 | Amarande | yeah, not only does it need a ton of DPS and interrupts, but unless you have a shaman with the talent so they can just button mash interrupt |
| 03:55.53 | Legorol | Dagmar: hah! as if it was that simple |
| 03:55.53 | Amarande | too much DPS will actually ruin you |
| 03:56.04 | Dagmar | I wouldn't say a ton of interrupts if you're geared for ICC |
| 03:56.25 | Dagmar | Legorol: Weve watched him transform with just about no hit points left |
| 03:56.27 | Amarande | if you have ICC geared DPS, it seems you run into trouble because you still can't down him before the second cast ... and you're likely to have that second cast be a near instant one |
| 03:56.31 | Jerub | i got less rabi in a pug, by accident. |
| 03:56.35 | Dagmar | Just because we were _half_ paying attention |
| 03:56.40 | Legorol | if you go in with 5 dps (1 tank + 4 dps, no healer), and tune your dps right, you can do with two easy interrupts ideally |
| 03:56.41 | Jerub | everyone just hit their interrupts perfectly out of reflex |
| 03:57.00 | Dagmar | Trust me, if you just POUND THE CRAP out of him, he doesn't have time to give it more than 2-3 attempts tops |
| 03:57.04 | Legorol | Amarande: the aim is to do with 2 casts, let the 2nd one be around 40-50% |
| 03:57.24 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, that's true |
| 03:57.28 | Dagmar | We're also killing Coren Direbrew in under 15 seconds now |
| 03:57.29 | Legorol | Dagmar: the problem isn't how many he does, but whether he does get to do one below 40% |
| 03:57.34 | Dagmar | Last night we got it down to 12. |
| 03:57.39 | Amarande | the danger is that the 2nd cast comes so low on HP that you don't have time to interrupt |
| 03:57.47 | Legorol | idd |
| 03:57.52 | Amarande | anything below 1 second, and you just don't have the time unless you have robot reflexes |
| 03:57.54 | Jerub | Dagmar: my load screen is slow. i start dpsing 3-5 seconds in to the coren fight |
| 03:58.08 | Legorol | that's why a good way to do it is to stack up dots and debuff, go moderate dps, after 2nd cast around 40%, heroism and nuke |
| 03:59.13 | Jerub | Amarande: you know how to do oculus with 5 amber don't you? |
| 03:59.38 | Amarande | Jerub: yeah. that'll get me emerald void |
| 03:59.44 | Amarande | but I still need *amber* void, and to ride an *emerald* |
| 03:59.57 | Jerub | oh hehehhe amber void is the easiest |
| 04:00.06 | Amarande | that's the stuff I'm finding it hard to convince people to do |
| 04:00.08 | Jerub | 1 green who knows what they're doing and 4 reds that know how to mash 1 |
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| 04:00.47 | Kraps | "How did they talk to those guys 40 years ago on the moon but we cant keep cell phone from dropping calls" strawman has a point |
| 04:00.49 | Jerub | i got all the voids in 2 days |
| 04:00.50 | Amarande | And I never get the damn green drake because people don't grok vehicle battles and assume the person who queued as healer should have it |
| 04:00.54 | Amarande | And nobody wants 2 greens |
| 04:01.19 | Jerub | Amarande: so just ride the green and macro, "BUT IM A FROG DEAL WITH TIT" |
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| 04:24.14 | Kraps | "The game, which boasts voice work from Kristen Bell as central character Altaïr" AHAHAHAHA wait what |
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| 04:38.52 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: |
| 04:39.56 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:40.29 | Amarande | does 50 resil + 526 def quite reach uncrittable in heroics? |
| 04:40.35 | Amarande | I'm foggy on the formulae :S |
| 04:41.09 | Amarande | picked up a PvP cloak in VOA tonight, and I'm like "yeah that AWESOME stam, AP and crit are pretty decent, if I can cap def" |
| 04:41.23 | Amarande | then I remember that resil still works in PvE before 4.0 (and after 4.0, we won't have to worry about uncrittability) |
| 04:41.30 | Amarande | and I can't figure out if I just capped because of it :S |
| 04:41.44 | Jerub | Amarande: most armories will tell you |
| 04:42.15 | Dagmar | Close enough as to not matter |
| 04:42.30 | Dagmar | Your running heroics, not disarming a bomb in a crowded pre-school |
| 04:42.45 | Dagmar | If you get crit once, no one rational should give a shit |
| 04:44.00 | Jerub | LFD groups can handle tanks with <500 defense. |
| 04:44.12 | Jerub | your biger issue than dying is someone pulling off you |
| 04:44.44 | Amarande | yeah especially once 4.0 hits |
| 04:44.54 | Dagmar | If the healer is within melee range of you, feel free to just stop mashing buttons |
| 04:45.00 | Amarande | tanks are going to need to increase DPS in order to increase TPS, I'm presuming, since the easy mode threat stuff is going away? |
| 04:45.22 | Dagmar | Amarande: That's misleading |
| 04:45.33 | Amarande | also: seeing as I saw Elitist Armory is gone |
| 04:45.42 | Amarande | I wonder ... is EG going to stop being updated as well? |
| 04:45.49 | Amarande | and we're all going to be at the mercy of OH GOD GS in 4.0? |
| 04:46.06 | Dagmar | You could always try being less of a histronic prick. |
| 04:46.17 | Amarande | My raid leader and I are both staunch advocates of EG, and tend not to like GS much at all :) |
| 04:46.36 | Dagmar | ...and you place them each at opposite ends of a spectrum, which is unrealistic. |
| 04:46.40 | Jerub | i'm a real fan of being nice to people. |
| 04:46.46 | Amarande | Dagmar: well, they are, in a way |
| 04:46.46 | Dagmar | They're both pretty contrived, and one only slightly more than the other. |
| 04:46.55 | Jerub | yesterday i had someone ask me if i could help him get in an icc10 pug or a guild. |
| 04:47.06 | Amarande | EG analyzes how much of a player's gear is actually correct for their spec, and takes into account whether you bothered to gem and enchant the damn stuff |
| 04:47.20 | Jerub | I took a quick look at him and told him about how http://be.imba.hu/ would tell him what he needed to enchant his gear with. |
| 04:47.21 | Dagmar | So what |
| 04:47.29 | Jerub | :( no enchants at all. |
| 04:47.37 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 04:47.40 | Amarande | GS is meanwhile on the utterly simplistic end, and will gladly rate the guy in ungemmed, unenchanted PvP 264 as better for your raid than the guy in perfectly itemized, chanted and gemmed 232 |
| 04:47.57 | Dagmar | Amarande: This is only a problem if you're a complete tool who can't be bothered to look at someone's gear |
| 04:48.10 | Dagmar | ...because for many specs THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE PVP GEAR. |
| 04:48.31 | Amarande | Even when people gem and enchant properly though ... GS has a tendency to overrate higher ilvl gear that's got suboptimal itemization |
| 04:48.38 | Jerub | Amarande: fwiw, i got sindy down with two people in the raid in sub-5k gs. icc is easymode these days. |
| 04:48.39 | Amarande | resulting in people using bad itemization in order to game the system to get into raids |
| 04:48.44 | Dagmar | Define "overrate" please. |
| 04:48.52 | Amarande | Dagmar: as in give more points to it. |
| 04:48.55 | Jerub | no amount of gear counts for more than raid awareness. |
| 04:49.02 | Amarande | Jerub: especially on sindy. :) |
| 04:49.09 | Dagmar | So you're saying it gives more potent gear a higher score... do tell |
| 04:49.27 | Amarande | Dagmar: it gives more potent gear a higher score, but doesn't take into account whether that potency is what the player's spec needs |
| 04:49.37 | Amarande | and really ... PvP gear's itemization seems to me to only really be all that good for tanks |
| 04:49.43 | Amarande | Too much stamina, and not enough other stuff |
| 04:49.43 | Dagmar | And you can't be bothered to check for clothadins. |
| 04:49.55 | Dagmar | Amarande: Bullshit. Try a warlock. |
| 04:50.01 | Dagmar | Stamina is not to be sneered at. |
| 04:50.16 | Amarande | actually my lock does have a couple of PvP pieces from VOA |
| 04:50.25 | Dagmar | Stop trying to run everything to extremes. |
| 04:50.34 | Dagmar | Things are *NOT* absolutely black and freaking white. |
| 04:51.45 | Dagmar | Whether or not GS even looks at gems scarcely matters. Someone _actually looking_ at the gear will know if the target geared properly or has a bunch of empty sockets and no enchants |
| 04:52.19 | Amarande | Besides, I'm also in a decent raiding guild now, and don't need to PUG. |
| 04:52.31 | Amarande | (Not to mention I actually HAVE the GS to meet most PUG requirements now anyway :S) |
| 04:52.35 | Dagmar | Relying on some tool to do all the thinking for you as RL is no better than using Faceroller, and I don't see people crying that Faceroller sodomizes the baby Jesuss |
| 04:53.20 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, it's not really the addons that I should be criticizing, I guess |
| 04:53.28 | Amarande | it should be the bads that lead PUGs and rely too much on them |
| 04:53.51 | Dagmar | ...and you use the word "bads" like all the other ten year old retards. |
| 04:53.54 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 04:54.09 | Amarande | Dagmar: okay, the "folks not very talented at raid leadership" |
| 04:54.24 | Dagmar | See, that wasn't so hard |
| 04:55.22 | Amarande | I suppose class knowledge comes into play as well, too |
| 04:55.44 | Amarande | Most players don't have 80s in all classes, and therefore don't really know every class intimately |
| 04:55.58 | Amarande | therefore, it can be somewhat difficult to perfectly judge gear for every class joining your raid |
| 04:56.22 | Amarande | especially since, as I also know well, not all the EJ threads for every spec are as easily read through as some are. |
| 04:56.47 | Dagmar | All of that still points towards "take the gear, not hte player" |
| 04:56.47 | Amarande | some of them have all the essential data really scattered through large threads instead of being gathered at the top like the best-maintained ones do |
| 04:57.06 | Amarande | Yeah, you want to take the player, not the gear. :) |
| 04:57.43 | Amarande | My RL took a chance on me in early August even though I don't think I was at all well geared compared to most ... and now I'm one of his best MDPS |
| 05:02.41 | Jerub | legend http://erkie.github.com/ |
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| 05:03.35 | Xyphoid | it's amazing isn't it |
| 05:03.50 | tem | Jamash, ping |
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| 05:54.59 | Galvin | Any reason why blizzard would use one texture for the holypower bar which has 5 textures in it, then they use textcoord to split it up. is it less memory than to use 5 textures? |
| 05:55.43 | kd3 | that's called a 'sprite', and typically, yes, less memory-intensive |
| 05:55.56 | kd3 | the minimap/zone map POI icons are all in one texture too |
| 05:56.10 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Poiicons.png |
| 05:57.43 | Galvin | I dont know a whole lot about that stuff. so its not really one texture file but a special format? |
| 05:58.03 | kd3 | nope. it's one regular texture, they just use specific parts of it rather than the whole thing |
| 05:58.46 | Galvin | Glad they didn't do that with the runes, would of broke my code :) |
| 05:59.36 | Humbedooh | you can cut out parts of a texture with SetTexCoords, Galvin |
| 06:00.00 | Humbedooh | fx, it I only wanted to use the top right quarter of a texture |
| 06:00.34 | Xinhuan | you can even stretch, flip, rotate and do lots of fancy stuff |
| 06:00.38 | Xinhuan | with SetTexCoord |
| 06:00.40 | Humbedooh | I'd do: texture:SetTexCoords(0,5,0,1,0.5); |
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| 06:01.09 | Humbedooh | if it wasn't for SetTexCoord, I'd be bummed ;> |
| 06:01.35 | Xinhuan | the key concept thugh, to understanding it visually |
| 06:02.05 | Xinhuan | is that, in the 8 argument format, you're specifying texture coordinates to be the UL, UR, LL and LR respectively |
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| 06:02.28 | Xinhuan | so if you specify the UR corner of a texture to be assigned to your UL corner |
| 06:02.42 | Xinhuan | and vice versa, you essentially get a flipped image left-right |
| 06:02.59 | Humbedooh | same goes for setting a negative height/width on a texture |
| 06:03.10 | Xinhuan | yah tex coords wrap |
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| 06:03.19 | Xinhuan | so to rotate an image 90 degrees, you would just specify the the 4 corners rotated |
| 06:03.45 | Xinhuan | now rotating somethinglike 70 degrees though, you better have a lot of trigometry math in your brain :P |
| 06:03.51 | Humbedooh | pfft |
| 06:03.59 | Galvin | Animationgroup for that? |
| 06:04.00 | Humbedooh | that's just 4 matrix transformations |
| 06:04.11 | Xinhuan | since to rotate a texture 70 degrees clockwise, you actually want to get the matrix to rotate it 70 degrees counter-clockwise |
| 06:04.29 | Galvin | Im already way lost but thats ok I have no disire to do that stuff :) |
| 06:04.50 | Humbedooh | just wants to remind people that LibSVG can do both scaling, translating, rotating and skewing! |
| 06:04.52 | Xinhuan | i think Humbedooh knows what i'm talking about hehe |
| 06:05.27 | Humbedooh | but untill I brushed up on the old matrix stuff, it was a bit fuzzy for me as well : |
| 06:05.28 | Humbedooh | :p |
| 06:07.20 | Galvin | what does SVG stand far? |
| 06:07.26 | Galvin | *for |
| 06:07.34 | kd3 | nominally, scalable vector graphics |
| 06:08.04 | Galvin | I didn't think wow could do vector graphics just textures? |
| 06:08.07 | Trela | Succulent Vigorous Grannies |
| 06:08.37 | Galvin | gross :) |
| 06:08.50 | Trela | :D |
| 06:08.59 | Xinhuan | that's what the library is for |
| 06:09.03 | Xinhuan | to implement SVG in lua |
| 06:09.08 | Xinhuan | using wow's api |
| 06:09.32 | Xinhuan | not quite ideal or optimized |
| 06:09.35 | Xinhuan | but interesting nontheless |
| 06:10.06 | Humbedooh | if WoW could do vector lines or just pixel-by-pixel coloring, it'd be a lot easier |
| 06:10.25 | Humbedooh | but I like a challenge! |
| 06:10.55 | Humbedooh | and yes, technically speaking, it can do pixel-by-pixel, but that'd require 1,000,000 textures for a 1000x1000 image ;p |
| 06:11.12 | Humbedooh | and I'm not gonna try that :s |
| 06:11.23 | kd3 | does a quick size lookup for his native libsvg |
| 06:11.33 | kd3 | 130k? |
| 06:11.34 | kd3 | gack |
| 06:11.53 | Humbedooh | the basic svg -> internal rendering stuff isn't hard to do |
| 06:12.07 | Humbedooh | but I also have to make the...internal rendering mechanisms as well :p |
| 06:12.14 | Mr_Rabies | so far with cata: any major changes to addons? |
| 06:12.37 | Humbedooh | nothing groundbreaking or earthshattering |
| 06:12.39 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cataclysm_AddOn_status |
| 06:12.45 | Mr_Rabies | i don't think wow ever recovered from the tbc addon brutality |
| 06:14.37 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 06:14.40 | Fisker | i'm pretty sick |
| 06:15.28 | Jerub | Mr_Rabies: oh? |
| 06:15.59 | Yssaril | i think we have better addons now than we did back then |
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| 06:18.18 | Jerub | what addon brutality? |
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| 06:19.47 | Yssaril | Jerub: secure code and then the combat log change i guess |
| 06:21.07 | cogwheel | killing IWIN buttons, spurring a new generation of addons and addon authors, and forcing blizzard to make the base ui more complete... I'd say wins all around |
| 06:21.41 | cogwheel | all while still allowing addons to keep a wide range of combat-related functionality |
| 06:22.57 | Jerub | oh, were there a lot of IWIN buttons in BC? |
| 06:23.05 | Jerub | or vanilla? |
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| 06:24.35 | kd3 | vanilla? sure |
| 06:24.39 | kd3 | look at the original decursive |
| 06:24.54 | kd3 | still winces at spamming the ' key to survive noth |
| 06:25.16 | krka_ | epic xkcd today! |
| 06:25.18 | Jerub | oh, it did targetting and casting for you? |
| 06:25.21 | kd3 | yes |
| 06:25.25 | Jerub | krka_: tee hee |
| 06:25.34 | Jerub | i only started playing after wotlk |
| 06:25.35 | TMcMahon51 | didnt healbot do the same, except with healing? |
| 06:25.43 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just saying, it killed a lot of good, talented addon authors' interest in wow |
| 06:26.00 | Mr_Rabies | it was a necessary change but man |
| 06:26.10 | Mr_Rabies | lost a lof of good folks in that madness |
| 06:26.14 | Mr_Rabies | lot of* |
| 06:26.18 | Fisker | so i guess we'll get 4.0.01 in 2 weeks then? |
| 06:26.22 | Fisker | 4.0.1* |
| 06:27.11 | TMcMahon51 | I hope so. I hope 4.0.3 comes soon afterwards. |
| 06:27.12 | Jerub | "We want to ensure visiting the major faction capitals is still the most attractive thing to do in Cataclysm..." from blue post |
| 06:27.26 | Mr_Rabies | that's my guess as a partially informed non-beta-non-ptr-self-censoring player |
| 06:27.29 | Jerub | does that mean there is 1 major capital? or do they think that multiple capitals will be used? |
| 06:28.24 | Mr_Rabies | well, it'll likely mostly be one, stormwind, if they don't change IF as much as they changed SW, as far as alliance is concerned |
| 06:28.30 | Mr_Rabies | and horde of course will use orgrimmar |
| 06:28.37 | TMcMahon51 | @Jerub I think capitals will be reated the same as now. Horde will likely hang around org, and Alliance in either SW or IF |
| 06:29.01 | Mr_Rabies | but back when they added auction houses in each city the focus went from IF only to mostly SW and still a lot in IF |
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| 06:30.50 | Jerub | yeah, most horde hang around org if they're not in dal |
| 06:30.50 | Mr_Rabies | it'd be nice if the forsaken would spruce up the upper part of lordaeron again a bit |
| 06:30.51 | Fisker | what say you kd3 ? |
| 06:31.05 | Jerub | but it's going to shit me if hafl my crafting means having to hop between UC and Org |
| 06:31.27 | kd3 | I'm saying "zzz" |
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| 06:33.17 | harl | hi |
| 06:36.30 | Galvin | Theres no way to have one frame contain 3 textures that can have their own width/heights and positions? |
| 06:37.54 | Yssaril | Galvin: sure there is why whouldn't there be just set point width and height like you do with a frame |
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| 06:39.47 | Galvin | ok |
| 06:42.58 | Vandesdelca32 | pokes awkwardly at the channel... |
| 06:43.14 | zenzio | twitches |
| 06:45.41 | Vandesdelca32 | I have a question for the guru's of the channel (Or.. the people who are listening and know the answer...). I am writing a Cataclysm addon.. and well, I want it to tell the user that the addon's not compatible with earlier versions of WoW... >.. |
| 06:45.59 | Torhal | !api getbuildinfo |
| 06:46.00 | lua_bot | GetBuildInfo: Returns the version information about the client (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetBuildInfo) |
| 06:46.02 | Dagmar | EASY |
| 06:46.10 | Vandesdelca32 | That's good. |
| 06:46.41 | Galvin | Well this isn't working, not sure why. |
| 06:46.50 | Vandesdelca32 | ... I'm also curious, I remember reading somewhere on the internets, about ToC tags that defined min and max compatible versions... Just can't remember what they actually were... |
| 06:48.32 | Torhal | Vandesdelca32: http://www.wowwiki.com/TOC_format |
| 06:50.37 | Vandesdelca32 | I looked there, this thing i found on the remote corners of the internet was not there. |
| 06:51.03 | Vandesdelca32 | Eh, I suppose if it's not there, it's not important? |
| 06:51.25 | Torhal | Vandesdelca32: You're probably thinking of the Curse-only thinger: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/cataclysm-addons-and-x-compatible-with/ |
| 06:51.36 | Torhal | Well, WoWAce/CurseForge packager. |
| 06:51.45 | Torhal | Both of which are propogated to Curse. |
| 06:52.04 | Torhal | They're useless anywhere else (unless you happen to be using the ACP AddOn) |
| 06:52.28 | Vandesdelca32 | *uses Curse, and ACP* |
| 06:52.30 | Dagmar | A lesser man would make his addon give a toon Tourette's if the version number was unacceptabler |
| 06:52.39 | Dagmar | s/bler/ble./ |
| 06:53.00 | Torhal | Dagmar: Does unacceptabler mean "more unacceptable"? :D |
| 06:53.14 | Dagmar | Nah it means I can't type and light a cigarette at the same time |
| 06:53.25 | Torhal | You'll have that from time to time. |
| 06:55.02 | Dagmar | Just a hook or two to make messages typed have a .05% chance of replacing a random word with an obscenity. |
| 06:55.44 | Vandesdelca32 | That sounds interesting. |
| 06:55.53 | Dagmar | smiles |
| 06:57.33 | Vandesdelca32 | Now... The inner complexities of writing Cataclysm addons... without actually being able to log in to the Beta just now... Ugh. |
| 06:57.56 | Torhal | ~drycode |
| 06:57.56 | purl | methinks drycode is anything by ackis. |
| 06:58.18 | Torhal | sleeps. |
| 07:01.12 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 07:04.31 | Vandesdelca32 | hates drycoding just as much as the rest of us... but he's only doing the main "I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE CATA!" function.. |
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| 07:06.54 | Vandesdelca32 | Oh, oh... I have a question.. Custom Library? There are like 5 or 6 functions ALL of my addons use... so... How would I go about just making that an embed of some kind? |
| 07:08.52 | cbreak_work | "static linking" |
| 07:11.39 | Xinhuan | if its just 5 or 6 functions, and you think other ppl probably won't be using them (i.e only your own addons) |
| 07:11.48 | Xinhuan | i'll suggest you just cut and paste them across your addons |
| 07:13.14 | Vandesdelca32 | Eh, they're useful, for sure.. but I doubt anyone would... I guess it's probably easier that way, teh way I've been doing it for a long time, just retyping/upgrading it for each addon. |
| 07:13.15 | Xinhuan | but if you really do want to make libraries... well see how libstub works, ensure your library functions work, have a proper upgrade path and may possibly require a reembed |
| 07:14.08 | Xinhuan | you'll want to see how existing addons libraries upgrade itself |
| 07:14.25 | Xinhuan | and how they make sure an addon with an older version ends up using the newer versions |
| 07:14.32 | Xinhuan | and that there's no memory leaks |
| 07:15.56 | Vandesdelca32 | Perhaps something to explore with a bigger project than a Priest UI mod... |
| 07:17.54 | zenzio | http://incident57.com/less/ - now that's a funky slogan |
| 07:18.22 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 07:18.27 | Wobin | zenzio: is it supposed to look like that? |
| 07:18.41 | Wobin | oh IE |
| 07:18.53 | zenzio | yeah |
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| 07:19.08 | Wobin | it looks very 'funky' in chromium =P |
| 07:19.13 | zenzio | but I don't know what you mean about looking like something; I don't even know the app - just someone linked it |
| 07:19.59 | zenzio | the slogan/app reminds me of the description of the "less" program in the Slackware installer... "less is more, more or less" |
| 07:20.30 | Wobin | viewed in Chromium: http://screencast.com/t/MDMzYjdmNDkt |
| 07:20.46 | zenzio | O_O |
| 07:20.50 | Wobin | yeah |
| 07:20.51 | Dagmar | I was gonna say it looks completely fine in Chrome |
| 07:21.03 | zenzio | wonder why it corrupts like that for you |
| 07:21.09 | Dagmar | Freaking WEIRD |
| 07:21.11 | Fisker | Wobin should use canary build instead of chromium |
| 07:22.01 | Wobin | I would, if I could get default linking |
| 07:22.20 | Wobin | irritates me to have it open FF or whatever when clicking a link outside of the client |
| 07:23.17 | Fisker | ah yeah |
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| 07:37.16 | Jamash | tem: pong |
| 07:37.31 | tem | can you give people invite power in lewd on demand, please? |
| 07:37.35 | Jamash | sure |
| 07:37.39 | tem | I had it at one point |
| 07:37.46 | Jamash | I thought people did, lemme check |
| 07:37.47 | tem | but I was like shadow demoted |
| 07:40.37 | Jamash | my son, the day you were born, the very forests of Lordaeron whispered the name, "Fisker" |
| 07:41.51 | Jamash | so do female worgen work yet? |
| 07:43.35 | Vandesdelca32 | I wish I knew, but, I can't even download the damn 12 gb of data I need to play... |
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| 07:44.18 | cbreak_work | 12gb? yeah, that'll take several hours :/ |
| 07:44.47 | Vandesdelca32 | More than that at 1.5 mb/s |
| 07:44.49 | Vandesdelca32 | >.< |
| 07:45.09 | Vandesdelca32 | Oh.. and i need to think up some efficient way to not load the addon if the player isn't a priest... |
| 07:45.53 | Vandesdelca32 | I know DisableAddOn() will do the job to keep it from loading again, but that needs to be caught first. |
| 07:48.17 | Jamash | ok, everyone in the guild is promoted |
| 07:48.43 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1204875015 |
| 07:48.44 | Vandesdelca32 | From what I read.. It disables it for everyone the first time you call DisableAddOn? |
| 07:50.16 | Jamash | creating a female worgen still reports "Failure" |
| 07:50.20 | Vandesdelca32 | Aww. |
| 07:50.42 | Jamash | the nude worgen female bug still exists |
| 07:50.52 | Vandesdelca32 | Whenever I tried to log in... recently, the game wouldn't load the character's models, and crash when I hit "Enter World"... |
| 07:51.42 | Jamash | deleting betadir\Data\Cache usually fixes that sort of thing |
| 07:51.53 | Vandesdelca32 | eh, I guess an easy way to make the addon null, and not require the player to reload thier UI is to just make it's namespace null, and then return from that function... |
| 07:52.03 | Jamash | and/or deleting betadir\Cache |
| 07:52.16 | Vandesdelca32 | Okay.. Thanks. |
| 07:53.22 | Vandesdelca32 | Would my crazy method work? Or should I just go bother an addon's code? |
| 07:54.13 | zenzio | your method for what? |
| 07:54.36 | Vandesdelca32 | Not loading an addon... |
| 07:54.45 | zenzio | from inside your addon? |
| 07:54.47 | Vandesdelca32 | Say, I log in with it enabled on my Warlock, and it's a priest mod. |
| 07:54.53 | Vandesdelca32 | Yes. |
| 07:55.00 | Vandesdelca32 | Just call it's namespace null and be done with it? |
| 07:55.02 | zenzio | Vandesdelca32: what does your addon do? |
| 07:55.19 | Vandesdelca32 | It's going to be a UI mod for Chakra for priests. |
| 07:56.17 | Jamash | there's two methods, one is to null your table, and the other is two have a stub that loads the real addon only if you're on a priest |
| 07:56.20 | zenzio | I'm not familiar with what that is. If your addon doesn't show any graphical elements until some event happens, you could do a UnitClass() check and only register the events if the player's a priest |
| 07:56.59 | Jamash | so running wild doesn't have a proper animation yet? |
| 07:57.57 | Vandesdelca32 | It's supposed to show graphical elements, not sure when it will yet though.. I think having circles on the screen all the time would be kind of annoying... Most of the gui will probably be coded in Lua too. |
| 07:58.07 | zenzio | that question somehow reminded me of the good old "butt-scooting" in Anarchy Online... where your client got desynched with the server, so it looekd like you were sitting down while running around |
| 07:58.27 | Vandesdelca32 | Hehe. |
| 07:59.47 | Jamash | the animation right now is "running around really fast while standing up" |
| 07:59.56 | Vandesdelca32 | I guess it's time to restore my cataclysm beta then... Backup FTW? |
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| 08:00.36 | Vandesdelca32 | Or not, it's not backed up... |
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| 08:02.25 | Vandesdelca32 | Eh... |
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| 08:02.33 | Vandesdelca32 | Kapersky needs to DIAF. |
| 08:02.40 | mitch0 | any bitbucket users around? |
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| 08:06.27 | zenzio | http://roflrazzi.com/2010/09/28/celebrity-pictures-palin-dance-gif/ |
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| 08:14.44 | Fisker | imma bucket your bits mitch0 |
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| 08:19.20 | Adys | http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/?p=1990 |
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| 08:19.46 | Galvin | Do code commits with svn have to be in a usable state? |
| 08:20.15 | mitch0 | have to pass syntax check |
| 08:20.28 | Galvin | thanks |
| 08:20.47 | Adys | Galvin: depends who's hosting and who's checking out |
| 08:20.50 | Adys | also don't use svn |
| 08:21.09 | mitch0 | ah, ECHAN. what I said was about the wowace svn repo :) |
| 08:21.33 | mitch0 | adys: pfft about the last bit |
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| 08:21.40 | Galvin | Well instead of doing a week of work on my local machine, I figured i'd make commits as i go along. so its acting like a backup incase I have to roll back. |
| 08:22.05 | mitch0 | create a feature branch and commit there |
| 08:22.14 | mitch0 | when all is nice, merge back to trunk |
| 08:22.18 | Galvin | yeah I got a branch thats where its going :) cata branch |
| 08:22.35 | Adys | mitch0: no pffting |
| 08:22.37 | mitch0 | (or create a stable branch just in case you need to fix something independent of current work, and keep working on trunk) |
| 08:23.08 | Adys | use git, bzr, even hg hell if i care |
| 08:23.12 | Adys | but svn is horrible |
| 08:23.25 | mitch0 | bzr is like horrible too, isn't it? |
| 08:23.35 | mitch0 | and git is a mess :P |
| 08:23.42 | krka_ | do all those have full history offline? |
| 08:23.45 | Galvin | I'll stick with svn thanks :P |
| 08:23.46 | Adys | bzr is an in between git and svn, it's much much more powerful |
| 08:23.50 | Adys | krka_: yep |
| 08:24.05 | krka_ | cool |
| 08:24.05 | Adys | svn is the only insanity out there to have history online |
| 08:24.18 | Adys | also I like to link people to this |
| 08:24.19 | Adys | When I say I hate CVS with a passion, I have to also say that if there are any SVN (Subversion) users in the audience, you might want to leave. Because my hatred of CVS has meant that I see Subversion as being the most pointless project ever started. |
| 08:24.28 | Adys | Linus torvalds ^ |
| 08:24.41 | krka_ | from his talk at google or something, right? |
| 08:24.42 | mitch0 | like I care |
| 08:25.03 | Adys | krka_: yeah about git |
| 08:25.18 | Jamash | git sucks |
| 08:25.24 | mitch0 | I could quote you the freebsd guys why they chose svn. but at the end, everyone should just use what he needs/most comfortable with |
| 08:25.39 | Adys | mitch0: yeah, and then they complain because "WTF YOU CHECKED OUT ROOT" |
| 08:25.50 | krka_ | svn is fine as long as you never need to branch, or do stuff offline :) |
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| 08:25.52 | Adys | svn is a red flag "please bsod me" |
| 08:26.11 | Jamash | the reason linus likes git is he wrote it to do exactly what he needs and nothing else |
| 08:26.17 | Jamash | who cares about other people |
| 08:26.22 | Jamash | (not linus) |
| 08:26.24 | Adys | and I didnt say use git |
| 08:26.28 | Adys | I said don't use svn |
| 08:26.28 | Adys | :p |
| 08:26.35 | zenzio | my biased opinion is more like <Jamash> the reason linus likes git is he wrote it |
| 08:27.11 | Jamash | I am not aware of any free version control systems that don't suck |
| 08:27.35 | Jamash | they each suck at different things |
| 08:27.38 | mitch0 | I have approx 0 issues with svn... go figure. I do use hg for some pet projects though, and maybe I'd use hg for our internal thing too, if I had to make the decision now, but saying that svn is unusable is a bit of a stretch |
| 08:29.48 | krka_ | sometimes when i do "svn up" it claims to update, but it still leaves some files old |
| 08:29.51 | krka_ | which is very weird |
| 08:29.55 | mitch0 | I had to do a manual merge yesterday 'cos I didn't keep up the svn server so it sits at version 1.4 or so and doesn't have any merge support, but even that was doable (granted, it would've been nicer with either the limited merge support of recent svn or hg, but as it is, it took 5 mins with grabbing the correct rev nums and doing the merge the hard way...) |
| 08:30.03 | krka_ | i only notice when the app starts behaving badly or when tests or compilation fail |
| 08:30.16 | krka_ | now i simply dont trust svn any more |
| 08:30.36 | Galvin | how come the server doesn't support the latest svn? |
| 08:30.43 | Grum | krka_ speaks truth :( |
| 08:30.55 | mitch0 | galvin: 'cos I didn't touch it for 6 years :) |
| 08:31.06 | mitch0 | and now I can't get updates for that box (fc5 or somesuch) |
| 08:31.12 | Galvin | damn |
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| 08:31.37 | Galvin | Maybe blizzard will have something like wowace for their next mmo. |
| 08:31.45 | Cide | let's hope not |
| 08:31.49 | mitch0 | reinstalling that box is on my TODO, but it's icky stuff, so it gets postponed |
| 08:32.15 | Galvin | how big is that list? :) |
| 08:33.58 | mitch0 | longish ;) |
| 08:34.03 | Jamash | I really don't see why blizzard would want to duplicate what wowi and curse are doing already |
| 08:34.21 | mitch0 | and some items are 3month+ dev time :) |
| 08:34.38 | Jamash | look at the shitty job they're doing with map publishing for starcraft2 |
| 08:35.14 | zenzio | I can see why they'd want to, but I'm not at all sure they'd do a very good job |
| 08:35.28 | Jamash | why would they want to? |
| 08:35.31 | Cide | I can see why they wouldn't want to |
| 08:35.35 | Cide | because it's a fucking stupid idea |
| 08:35.53 | Jamash | minuses: liability, headaches, bitching. pluses: NONE |
| 08:36.18 | zenzio | that's oversimplifying; but I agree the negative aspects far outweigh the positive |
| 08:36.45 | Jamash | name one positive |
| 08:37.22 | Jamash | <jeopardy music> |
| 08:38.39 | zenzio | too subjective, it's clear you don't share my point of view :-) |
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| 08:40.11 | Jamash | so you're saying you don't have discussions with people who don't already agree with you? |
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| 08:40.26 | zenzio | I'm intrigued there are so many threads about worgen female dance... like it's the crucial thing about Cataclysm |
| 08:40.34 | Jamash | well, it is |
| 08:40.48 | zenzio | Jamash: I'm saying I've become better at avoiding discussions where I end up raving like a lunatic |
| 08:40.58 | Jamash | dude, you're on irc |
| 08:41.06 | Galvin | I think i got marsbehavior working, buit not sure if its completely bug free on ptr, was wondering if I could send a copy to someone and see, all i did was pass event and changed a bunch of this to self in the xml. I know little xml. |
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| 08:41.15 | Jamash | if irc isn't for raving like a lunatic I really don't know what it is for |
| 08:41.30 | zenzio | dude, cyber! |
| 08:41.46 | Jamash | but anyway, think about how many level one worgen female alts will be dancing on mailboxes in cata |
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| 08:42.11 | Jamash | in terms of player visibility, it is one of the most important features |
| 08:43.00 | zenzio | that is a good point |
| 08:44.40 | zenzio | "Gob vs worg intro"... I shouldn't be surprised by this on the Internet, but it saddens me when people are too lazy to type "lin" and "en" (and "ard") |
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| 08:45.14 | Jamash | I was wondering today when the actual label for mayonnaise started saying "MAYO" |
| 08:58.22 | Galvin | if(arg1 > 0) then <- what does the > mean? |
| 08:58.59 | Jamash | that's supposed to be a > |
| 08:59.09 | Jamash | that's an html entity |
| 08:59.18 | Grum | 'greater then' |
| 08:59.24 | Jamash | exactly |
| 08:59.30 | Grum | than! |
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| 08:59.50 | Grum | failenglish hehe |
| 08:59.54 | Galvin | why would that be in xml, looking at marsbehavior.xml |
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| 09:00.54 | Jamash | xml and html are both descendants of sgml so they both share a few traits, like using > and < |
| 09:00.54 | Galvin | I think that line caused this error? 1x <string>:"MarsBehaviorBindingFrame:OnMouseWheel":2: attempt to compare number with nil |
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| 09:01.36 | Galvin | on live that line seems to work for some reason. |
| 09:01.42 | Jamash | hm, I'm not sure how lua embedded in xml is supposed to work with angle brackets |
| 09:02.28 | Galvin | arg1 is still valid in xml in beta? |
| 09:02.45 | Jamash | shouldn't be |
| 09:02.54 | Galvin | so how do you get the argument in xml? |
| 09:02.59 | Jamash | uh |
| 09:03.05 | foxlit | vararg |
| 09:03.46 | foxlit | (which is a fancy way of saying local foo, bar, baz = ...; |
| 09:04.31 | Jamash | the simplest solution I can think of is to not use xml >.> |
| 09:04.39 | Galvin | I tried using "..." in xml but it doesn't like it. |
| 09:04.49 | Galvin | well I dont know how this code works just trying to make it work. |
| 09:05.00 | Jamash | certain scripts have implicit wrappers around them, lemme see |
| 09:05.08 | foxlit | Jamash: the simplest way to write an addon is not to write an addon. Zen. |
| 09:05.17 | Jamash | no u |
| 09:05.28 | Galvin | I think the author is long gone on this project |
| 09:06.18 | Jamash | http://www.wowwiki.com/2.0_consolidated_changes#Frame_Features (I don't know if this is still valid) |
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| 09:08.33 | Galvin | doesn't really help all it is an if statement in xml, its not even a function. |
| 09:08.45 | Jamash | what's it look like? |
| 09:08.58 | Galvin | dont want to spam it in here |
| 09:08.59 | Jamash | put it on http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ if it's more than a line or two |
| 09:09.03 | Galvin | ok |
| 09:10.20 | Jamash | so I'm using std::cin to read data from a pipe, but when I close the pipe cin.getline() blocks forever instead of returning and setting eof() |
| 09:10.56 | Galvin | problem is pastey.net is not preserveing the indents |
| 09:11.13 | Jamash | are you setting the type to xml? |
| 09:11.18 | Galvin | yes |
| 09:11.27 | Jamash | and setting the tabstop width? |
| 09:11.43 | Galvin | hmm didn't see that let me check |
| 09:11.57 | Jamash | it's under the input box |
| 09:12.04 | Galvin | it already checked off |
| 09:12.40 | Jamash | checked off meaning what? |
| 09:12.59 | Galvin | You appear to have URL's in your submission. |
| 09:12.59 | Galvin | Due to large amounts of spam, we require some information from you. |
| 09:13.14 | Galvin | thats why its not right |
| 09:13.53 | Galvin | Ive used this to paste lua and never had issues. |
| 09:14.07 | Cide | just full in the stuff it asks for? |
| 09:14.09 | Jamash | it's probably catching the xml declaration, try leaving that off |
| 09:15.04 | Galvin | Ok it worked http://wowuidev.pastey.net/141011 |
| 09:15.21 | Galvin | I changed a ton of "this" to "self" in there. |
| 09:15.43 | Jamash | just how old is this addon? |
| 09:15.59 | Galvin | used to be called marsbar in 2006 or so. I been using it for that long. |
| 09:16.35 | Jamash | there's an < in there as well |
| 09:16.46 | Galvin | I like it cause you can bind stuff without losing binds in wow. |
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| 09:17.21 | Jamash | so what's wrong with it? |
| 09:17.23 | Galvin | so if you have X key bound to do something and go into marsbehavior and bind X to something else. then reloadui. the new bind will take over, but soon as you unbind X it'll go back to the old X. |
| 09:17.56 | Galvin | 4.0 is causing a lot of errors, a lot of thos was because the mod was using globals 'this' |
| 09:18.11 | Galvin | When I try to bind my mouse wheel up it throws that error. |
| 09:18.20 | Galvin | alt-wheel up |
| 09:18.27 | Jamash | what is "that error"? |
| 09:18.37 | Jamash | oh, nvm |
| 09:19.04 | Galvin | i have no idea how this mod works its beyond me. |
| 09:19.10 | Galvin | I know how to use it thats it :) |
| 09:20.12 | Jamash | you need to change OnMouseWheel to use "delta" instead of "arg1" |
| 09:20.26 | Galvin | how did you figure that out? |
| 09:20.52 | Jamash | from that wowwiki article I linked before, it gives the proper argument names for most of the scripts |
| 09:20.56 | Galvin | god knows how many other spots will crash based on whats done. |
| 09:21.15 | Galvin | I dont know xml that well so probably didn't understand how to read the info. |
| 09:22.05 | Jamash | all you need to know to fix things like "arg1" are the correct argument names for the event |
| 09:23.11 | Galvin | Thats the only palce in the al lof the xml that uses arg# |
| 09:23.21 | Galvin | still gives the same error compare number with nil |
| 09:23.23 | Jamash | well, that makes it easy |
| 09:23.59 | Galvin | reloadui is enough when changing xml? |
| 09:24.03 | Jamash | yes |
| 09:24.18 | Jamash | did you hit save in your editor? |
| 09:24.43 | Galvin | I changed the wrong file heh |
| 09:24.48 | Jamash | it happens |
| 09:25.18 | Jamash | maybe it's a bug in perl, hmm |
| 09:26.20 | Galvin | seems to work now, but I dont feel comfortable if I truely got it all working never know if something deeep down in the code is working different or not. |
| 09:26.50 | Jamash | just try everything and see if it works |
| 09:27.03 | Galvin | Be nice if some expert would just rewrite it, I dont know of any other mod that does what this does. |
| 09:27.24 | Jamash | I believe there are some other direct binding addons |
| 09:27.37 | Galvin | bindbad does it, but its not the same kind of bind |
| 09:28.17 | Jamash | yeah? what's the difference? |
| 09:30.02 | foxlit | More importantly, what do you actually want it to do? |
| 09:30.15 | Galvin | behavior bind keys differently. |
| 09:31.25 | Galvin | say you have X bound to shoot in bindpad. in marsbehavior you could bind that same key to a different bind, but it wont erase the original bind. so you bind X, then marsbehavior needs to reloadui to before the bind takes place. |
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| 09:31.50 | Galvin | then if for somereason you dont want to use the X bind in marsbehavior just unbind and it defaults back to the original X bind in bindpad. |
| 09:31.59 | Jamash | there's an api for temporary bindings now, I'm sure it could be done in such a way that you don't need to reloadui |
| 09:32.07 | Galvin | I think it uses secure keybinds or something not sure. |
| 09:32.42 | Galvin | its an ancient mod probably the oldest mod I have. |
| 09:33.48 | mitch0 | anyone happen to know how to reset a file upload form element from javascript? |
| 09:33.48 | foxlit | So your only real feature requirement is that when you remove the binding, you don't have to rebind whatever was using it before? |
| 09:34.18 | Galvin | well its easy to use as well, cause with bindpad I have to make new icons aand stuff for binds. |
| 09:35.21 | Galvin | I mostly used it to map a set of keys to the actionbar. |
| 09:35.31 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/8425477.html?style=mine#cutid1 |
| 09:35.33 | Wobin | socute |
| 09:35.46 | Jamash | what's wrong with using the blizzard action bar bindings? |
| 09:36.31 | Galvin | the keys map to vehicle buttons as well. |
| 09:36.32 | Jamash | Wobin: d'aww |
| 09:36.51 | Wobin | DK whelp is my favourite |
| 09:36.57 | Wobin | SO HAPPY WITH ICE CREAM |
| 09:37.23 | Jamash | hee |
| 09:38.24 | Galvin | so I have 7 keys mapped to a macro like this /click BonusActionButton1 then change the 1 to 2, etc. |
| 09:39.00 | Galvin | this works with vehicle buttons, clicks the slot no matter what actionbar you're on. |
| 09:39.30 | Jamash | huh |
| 09:39.43 | Jamash | I think you could do that with SetBindingClick |
| 09:39.46 | Galvin | I have my keys mapped like that for 4+ years now. |
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| 09:40.33 | Wobin | http://www.kritzkast.com/extra/everybodydancenow/dance_fortress.mp4 |
| 09:41.04 | Galvin | that a function or mod? |
| 09:41.10 | Jamash | there's a function SetBindingClick("KEY", "buttonName", "mouseButton") that does that |
| 09:41.25 | Jamash | !api SetBindingClick |
| 09:41.26 | lua_bot | SetBindingClick: Binds a key combination to "click" a Button object (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetBindingClick) |
| 09:42.26 | Galvin | ahh yeah thats probably what /click uses |
| 09:42.42 | Galvin | but its easier for me to just macro /click and bind it :) |
| 09:43.31 | Jamash | don't you end up using ten macros for that? |
| 09:43.37 | Jamash | or twelve? |
| 09:43.39 | Galvin | 7 |
| 09:43.51 | Galvin | but its thru marsbehavior theres no macro limit. |
| 09:43.59 | Galvin | I could have 100 macros |
| 09:44.36 | Cide | one hundred macros?! |
| 09:44.42 | Jamash | what I would do is get something like Hack that lets you specify lua code to run on startup, and write a small script to loop from 1 to 7 and bind the appropriate keys |
| 09:44.45 | jnwhiteh | but... that's over 9000! |
| 09:44.47 | Galvin | one drawback on that mod is you have to click thru all of them to get to the last one, he didn't really do the best UI job with it. |
| 09:45.00 | Galvin | yes it is :) |
| 09:46.42 | foxlit | In short, binding is a solved problem. |
| 09:47.05 | foxlit | You can write practically any behavior; the question is really about what you want (and why that makes sense) |
| 09:47.19 | Cide | yeah |
| 09:47.23 | Jamash | for key = 1, 7 do SetBindingClick("BonusActionButton"..key, tostring(key), "LeftButton") end |
| 09:47.24 | Galvin | I used the mod for a very small thing, but it has pluggins people wrote for it. |
| 09:47.26 | Cide | for a really bad proof of concept, see the awful OPie |
| 09:47.30 | Jamash | I have replaced your entire addon |
| 09:47.36 | foxlit | Cide: howwwible! |
| 09:47.52 | foxlit | Uses like a bazillion proxy buttons. |
| 09:47.56 | Galvin | except on those macros I have it do another action as well. |
| 09:47.59 | Cide | terrible terrible damage |
| 09:48.24 | Galvin | and its not 1 to 7 I use its ERDFCVG |
| 09:49.18 | Galvin | anyway thanks for the help |
| 09:49.31 | foxlit | [all because the binding up/down events are horribly picky about when they want to fire and when they do not] |
| 09:49.53 | foxlit | while on the subject, WTB CameraMoveStop(); |
| 09:50.28 | Jamash | for key = 1, 7 do SetBindingClick("BonusActionButton"..key, string.sub("ERDFCVG", key, key), "LeftButton") end |
| 09:50.36 | foxlit | To get out of camera rotation caused holding LMB; the current version is CameraOrSelectOrMoveStop(), which is just horrible |
| 09:50.56 | Jamash | StopWhateverYouAreDoingIDontEvenKnow() |
| 09:50.56 | foxlit | (and protected, probably because of the number of Or clauses on that thing) |
| 09:51.31 | foxlit | CameraOr...OrWhateverStop() |
| 09:52.11 | Galvin | yeah that'll work except its more than just a click :) |
| 09:53.22 | Galvin | going to sleep :) |
| 09:54.39 | Jamash | any sufficiently old addon can be replaced by a one-liner |
| 09:55.04 | foxlit | Ohyeah? |
| 09:55.05 | Cide | The Jamash Conjecture? |
| 09:55.11 | Jamash | yes |
| 09:55.17 | foxlit | I patched Luapad for 4.0 |
| 09:55.25 | foxlit | That thing had a toc of like 1300 when I got it |
| 09:55.25 | Jamash | grats |
| 09:55.29 | Jamash | hahaha |
| 09:55.32 | foxlit | Haven't updated since. |
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| 09:56.23 | Cide | how many lines?! |
| 09:56.31 | Jamash | one? |
| 09:56.40 | foxlit | ~100ish? |
| 09:56.47 | foxlit | Probably more. There's some XML involved. |
| 09:56.48 | Cide | not sufficiently old apparently |
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| 09:57.25 | Jamash | see, you could probably get rid of the xml |
| 09:57.46 | foxlit | Nah. I'd have to replace it with something ugly |
| 09:57.58 | foxlit | And *nobody* wants to maintain a CreateFrame mess. |
| 09:58.10 | Jamash | what's wrong with createframe |
| 09:58.16 | foxlit | sec |
| 09:58.19 | Cide | that's why you use CT_Library for the win |
| 09:58.24 | Cide | best frame creation ever |
| 09:58.38 | Jamash | I wrote one template in XML, said "sod this" and wrote the rest using CreateFrame |
| 09:58.52 | Cide | xml isn't too bad |
| 09:58.52 | Jamash | I could probably ditch the xml if I felt like it |
| 09:59.03 | Cide | but CT_Library > * |
| 09:59.11 | foxlit | Jamash: http://pastey.net/141012 is what's wrong with CreateFrame |
| 09:59.54 | Jamash | and you're implying that it would be any more readable in XML? |
| 09:59.59 | Cide | http://pastey.net/141013 |
| 10:00.06 | foxlit | Yes. It'd at least have some structure |
| 10:00.39 | Jamash | Cide: Your code has a bruise in the middle. |
| 10:00.50 | Cide | hm? |
| 10:01.31 | foxlit | Hm, pastey is semi-clever. It's matching up function and end somehow |
| 10:01.32 | Jamash | ["frame#s:300:0#tl:15:-30#b:0:15#i:listing"] = { etc. |
| 10:01.47 | Cide | what about it? |
| 10:02.08 | Jamash | it's a giant square magenta bruise, that's all |
| 10:02.19 | Cide | it's awesome |
| 10:02.30 | Jamash | God invented whitespace for a reason |
| 10:02.40 | Cide | it's designed to be terse |
| 10:02.48 | Cide | you don't need whitespace in that |
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| 10:03.06 | Cide | you could add a newline between 112 and 113 |
| 10:03.30 | Jamash | also it looks to me like 113-126 should be a single for loop |
| 10:03.42 | Cide | it doesn't support that very well |
| 10:03.47 | Cide | since it's inside a table definition |
| 10:03.50 | Cide | but possibly |
| 10:04.13 | Cide | it's not perfect and that code is old |
| 10:04.22 | Cide | but it defines a very complex frame |
| 10:04.42 | foxlit | My frame is probably more complex than yours :P |
| 10:04.58 | Cide | doubt it |
| 10:04.58 | foxlit | which isn't a good thing, but meh. |
| 10:05.18 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: XML can be validated |
| 10:05.20 | jnwhiteh | Lua code cannot |
| 10:05.29 | Cide | lua syntax can be validated too though |
| 10:05.30 | jnwhiteh | that's the main difference |
| 10:05.36 | Jamash | XML provides structure the same way a mental institution provides structure |
| 10:05.37 | Cide | and frames can be visually tested :P |
| 10:05.37 | foxlit | Not that XML validation helps. |
| 10:05.43 | jnwhiteh | Cide: sure, but there's no semantic validation there |
| 10:05.47 | Cide | right |
| 10:05.48 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: it actually can help quite a bit. |
| 10:05.50 | foxlit | It's "oh hey, you made a typo" |
| 10:05.55 | jnwhiteh | not really |
| 10:05.59 | foxlit | The lua equivalent is a run time error to your face. |
| 10:06.01 | jnwhiteh | it ensures the attributes that are requires are required |
| 10:06.07 | jnwhiteh | it ensures you don't include attributes that can't be required |
| 10:06.13 | jnwhiteh | there's semantic validation of frame definitions |
| 10:06.14 | jnwhiteh | in part |
| 10:06.21 | Jamash | it ensures that your code looks good, but not that it works |
| 10:06.24 | foxlit | It doesn't check whether what you write does what you mean. |
| 10:06.28 | jnwhiteh | of course |
| 10:06.31 | jnwhiteh | no system can do that |
| 10:06.36 | jnwhiteh | full stop |
| 10:06.37 | Cide | except mine |
| 10:06.38 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 10:06.40 | jnwhiteh | it can't. |
| 10:06.41 | Cide | my system employs koreans |
| 10:06.42 | foxlit | Indeed. Therefore, it's about as useful as a runtime error to the face. |
| 10:06.56 | jnwhiteh | that's a personal opinion, and I happen to disagree |
| 10:06.57 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 10:07.01 | Jamash | so that's the solution to the halting problem, is it? employ more koreans? |
| 10:07.08 | Cide | yes |
| 10:07.22 | Cide | turing didn't realize the implications |
| 10:07.42 | foxlit | wrong mathematician. |
| 10:07.47 | Cide | no? |
| 10:07.58 | Cide | sec |
| 10:08.00 | Jamash | I need a proof of the Riemann hypothesis by this time next tuesday |
| 10:08.08 | Cide | "Alan Turing proved in 1936 that a general algorithm to solve the halting problem for all possible program-input pairs cannot exist." |
| 10:08.09 | Jamash | how many koreans does that take |
| 10:08.29 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: ah, it requires unbounded Koreans |
| 10:08.36 | jnwhiteh | that's the difficulty |
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| 10:08.38 | Cide | well |
| 10:08.50 | Cide | we're expected to reach unbounded koreans by 2014 |
| 10:08.56 | jnwhiteh | that's my understanding |
| 10:09.24 | Jamash | if each generation of koreans reproduces in half the time of the previous generation... |
| 10:09.34 | foxlit | Cide: that thing could really use a cite. |
| 10:10.15 | foxlit | You're probably right, but the 1936 paper has a slightly different angle, so dunno. |
| 10:10.19 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: |
| 10:10.19 | jnwhiteh | Alan Turing, On computable numbers, with an application to the Entscheidungsproblem, Proceedings of the London Mathematical Society, Series 2, 42 (1936), pp 230â265. online version This is the epochal paper where Turing defines Turing machines, formulates the halting problem, and shows that it (as well as the Entscheidungsproblem) is unsolvable. |
| 10:10.41 | Jamash | http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/~gpullum/loopsnoop.html |
| 10:10.45 | jnwhiteh | seems properly cited to me =) |
| 10:11.02 | foxlit | :P |
| 10:11.34 | Jamash | another great problem is the self-prediction problem |
| 10:12.13 | Jamash | can any system provide correct answers to "what would you do if" questions |
| 10:12.47 | Cide | that seems a bit too loosely defined for a computer :P |
| 10:12.52 | Jamash | the answer is of course no, because if you could, you wouldn't need the system in the first place |
| 10:13.19 | Jamash | it's valid in psychology and computer science :) |
| 10:13.50 | Jamash | I don't know if there's a formal name for it |
| 10:14.08 | Cide | oh well |
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| 10:14.26 | Cide | I'd imagine the proof could be laid out similarly to the halting problem |
| 10:14.52 | foxlit | Neat poem, though the proof stinks of "does a set that contains sets that do not contain themselves contain itself?" |
| 10:15.19 | Cide | http://scientopia.org/blogs/goodmath/2010/09/12/the-halting-problem/ |
| 10:16.36 | Jamash | yo momma so fat that her fatness exists independent of her actual mass |
| 10:17.30 | Jamash | ah, but the Russel paradox is created by the definition of set theory; the halting problem cannot be solved in any system whatsoever |
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| 10:18.33 | Jamash | even if you had a Turing oracle, there would be problems of a higher order which it would be unable to solve, requiring a Turing' oracle, which would be unable to solve yet higher problems, and so on |
| 10:18.50 | Jamash | in other words, it's turtles all the way down |
| 10:19.03 | Fisker | Jamash |
| 10:19.08 | Fisker | i will kill you with a Cide |
| 10:19.20 | Jamash | Interesting. |
| 10:19.21 | Cide | my god! |
| 10:19.31 | foxlit | but am I interested in solving problems of a higher order than the oracle? :) |
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| 10:19.33 | Jamash | The suffix -cide implies killing |
| 10:19.45 | Cide | I'm the prefix |
| 10:19.55 | foxlit | Cidicide? |
| 10:19.56 | Jamash | so if you killed Jamash with Cide, you would commit Jamashcide. |
| 10:20.43 | harl | sounds ridiculous |
| 10:21.19 | Jamash | I always have problems with greek letters |
| 10:21.35 | Jamash | phi is a cocktail olive |
| 10:21.37 | Cide | you're clearly not a physicist |
| 10:21.45 | krka_ | γÏεεκ λεÏÏεÏÏ ÏÏÏ |
| 10:21.49 | Jamash | Clearly. |
| 10:21.56 | Cide | or are you? |
| 10:21.58 | Cide | in which case you fail |
| 10:22.10 | Jamash | I'm a theoretical physicist. |
| 10:22.12 | Cide | ha |
| 10:22.18 | Cide | that makes it even funnier |
| 10:22.24 | foxlit | Jamash: Hand. LHC beam. |
| 10:22.30 | Cide | ^ this |
| 10:22.33 | Jamash | by which I mean, in theory, I am a physicist, but in practice, I am not. |
| 10:22.33 | krka_ | Î¥ÎÎΡ ÎÎÎ ÎΣ Î Î ÎΥΣÎΨÎΣΤ! |
| 10:22.51 | Cide | so you're a physicist by degree but not profession? |
| 10:23.09 | Jamash | no, I'm not a physicist but I play one on TV |
| 10:23.09 | jnwhiteh | Exploiter: jnhiteh <3 you are my Hero!! |
| 10:23.10 | jnwhiteh | so. |
| 10:23.10 | Cide | krka_: nice |
| 10:23.11 | jnwhiteh | much |
| 10:23.12 | jnwhiteh | fail. |
| 10:23.18 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 10:23.18 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35202 << who plays on 2.4.3? |
| 10:23.22 | Fisker | who's jnhiteh? |
| 10:23.24 | jnwhiteh | hihi Fisker |
| 10:23.38 | Jamash | foxlit: private servers? |
| 10:23.40 | Fisker | foxlit someone who's spamming for a banning |
| 10:23.50 | krka_ | ι αÏÏθαλλÏ
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βοαÏδ λαÏ
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| 10:24.02 | jnwhiteh | whats the current chinese game version? |
| 10:24.03 | Jamash | just spelling english using the greek alphabet does not count |
| 10:24.07 | Fisker | not sure about chinese though, didn't they get 3.x with classic or something? |
| 10:24.08 | foxlit | why aren't they using the most recent game client, anyway? |
| 10:24.09 | krka_ | ÏθÏε Î¹Ï Î´Î¿ÎµÏ! |
| 10:24.11 | zenzio | did WoW China get 3.0 yet? |
| 10:24.23 | jnwhiteh | zenzio: I don't know, actually |
| 10:24.28 | Jamash | I've used APL, I know what I'm talking about |
| 10:24.29 | theorbtwo | Hey, you used final sigma in the beginning of a word! "ÏιÏη". |
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| 10:24.46 | jnwhiteh | that's because it was greeklish. |
| 10:24.51 | Jamash | I heard they were getting it this week |
| 10:24.54 | harl | no, they got to BC recently |
| 10:25.30 | krka_ | ιÏÏ Î½Î¿Ï Î³Ïεεκ ÏοÏδÏ, ξθÏÏ Î³Ïεεκ λεÏÏεÏÏ :) |
| 10:25.54 | Jamash | actually according to http://wow.joystiq.com/tag/china/ they got it a month ago |
| 10:25.56 | harl | that's so not-greek |
| 10:26.02 | harl | yea |
| 10:26.14 | harl | i'd say a month ago is kinda recently |
| 10:26.56 | Jamash | I'm not sure I want to know what marrowgar looks like in china >.> |
| 10:27.21 | cbreak_work | like the stone face boss in black temple maybe |
| 10:27.35 | Jamash | SOMETHINGELSESTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM |
| 10:27.45 | harl | they kind of got BC and WotLK at nearly the same time anyway, because BC was all crappy for a long time |
| 10:28.23 | Jamash | BLANDSTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM |
| 10:28.25 | harl | which isn't that long at all considering the interval |
| 10:28.29 | zenzio | someone posed an interesting question, what does the Lich King's armor look like in WoW China? |
| 10:28.40 | Jamash | they replaced the skulls with hello kitty |
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| 10:35.59 | Jamash | judging by http://www.warcraftchina.com/ there's still some skull-related imagery intact |
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| 10:37.14 | Wobin | http://kalapusa.deviantart.com/#/d2zihy7 |
| 10:37.47 | Jamash | o_o |
| 10:37.57 | Jamash | that's kind of horrific |
| 10:39.36 | Jamash | let me rephrase that |
| 10:39.40 | Jamash | that's utterly disgusting |
| 10:39.52 | Jamash | and yet awesome |
| 10:42.59 | Jamash | http://kalapusa.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d1wpsli YES |
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| 11:29.59 | sylvanaar_work | http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/29/atlassian-buys-mercurial-project-hosting-site-bitbucket/ |
| 11:30.45 | sylvanaar_work | i was just in the middle of switching to Kiln/FogBugz |
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| 11:41.09 | krka_ | As part of the integration, Atlassian is going to make Bitbucket completely free, offering free hosting for 5-devs, with unlimited private repositories. And as a launch promotion, Atlassian is offering a free year for a 10-user account. |
| 11:41.13 | krka_ | that's pretty awesome |
| 11:41.15 | krka_ | woot |
| 11:48.35 | industrial | if you have 5-10 programmers, don't you also have the capacity to set up a git server yourself :S? |
| 11:49.04 | industrial | I like the services cause I can publish work on it, not really cause of backups etc :p |
| 11:49.12 | krka_ | probably, but not as easily |
| 11:49.19 | industrial | true |
| 11:49.24 | krka_ | bitbucket / github / et.c. provide a useful service imo |
| 11:49.39 | krka_ | also, i am mostly excited about having some private repository free |
| 11:49.52 | krka_ | i dont have any personal servers always up |
| 11:50.08 | industrial | I do, my bittorrent box :D |
| 11:50.17 | krka_ | hmm, maybe bitbucket already has 1-dev private, i haven't actually checked |
| 11:50.21 | krka_ | i just know that github doesnt |
| 11:50.52 | jnwhiteh | the git/hg divide is a bit bizarre |
| 11:50.56 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:52.10 | krka_ | how do you mean? |
| 11:52.22 | jnwhiteh | just how close they are yet how different they are at the same time |
| 11:52.23 | krka_ | i have no strong opinion, i am just more used to git |
| 11:52.33 | jnwhiteh | I prefer the workflow in git |
| 11:52.42 | jnwhiteh | hg just has never seemed to make as much sense to me |
| 11:52.50 | jnwhiteh | its just funny that they both exist |
| 11:53.27 | krka_ | isn't the workflow about the same? |
| 11:53.31 | sylvanaar_work | jnwhiteh: my lua for idea project is on github and bitbucket |
| 11:53.33 | krka_ | trying to find good comparisons now |
| 11:53.49 | jnwhiteh | krka_: the workflow is similar, the commands just make more sense to me in git |
| 11:53.52 | sylvanaar_work | they are similar, though Hg is more portable by nature |
| 11:53.53 | jnwhiteh | but I'm backwards =) |
| 11:54.26 | jnwhiteh | meh, the portability of my tools isn't something I'm, terribly concerned with since systems are so homogenous these days. |
| 11:54.39 | airtonix | then there's windows |
| 11:54.42 | sylvanaar_work | well, i need something that works well on windows |
| 11:54.53 | sylvanaar_work | git sucks there |
| 11:54.57 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 11:55.01 | airtonix | alot of things do |
| 11:55.02 | jnwhiteh | i'm glad I avoid that pitfall =) |
| 11:55.45 | sylvanaar_work | that makes sense since Git was written by an OS developer |
| 11:55.50 | sylvanaar_work | bias |
| 11:56.20 | sylvanaar_work | im sure that TFS runs great under Linux too |
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| 11:56.27 | sylvanaar_work | lulz |
| 11:56.40 | jnwhiteh | git runs well on way more than 'linux' |
| 11:56.46 | jnwhiteh | but your bias is showing =) |
| 11:56.58 | sylvanaar_work | it runs on mac |
| 11:57.04 | sylvanaar_work | what else |
| 11:57.15 | jnwhiteh | you know there are more 'unix' like operating systems that aren't linux, right? |
| 11:57.22 | sylvanaar_work | *nix |
| 11:57.32 | jnwhiteh | well, that's portability in my opinion |
| 11:57.37 | jnwhiteh | it can compile on most posix platforms |
| 11:57.47 | jnwhiteh | the fact that windows isn't one seems to be the problem, in this case |
| 11:57.50 | ZorbaTHut | git has a few speed issues on windows, but overall it's just fine |
| 11:57.52 | ZorbaTHut | I've been using it for years |
| 11:58.27 | airtonix | kek |
| 11:58.34 | unfo- | bur |
| 11:58.45 | sylvanaar_work | spaces > tabs |
| 11:58.53 | sylvanaar_work | lulz |
| 11:58.57 | krka_ | emacs > vi |
| 11:58.57 | airtonix | only scrubs use keyboards |
| 11:59.04 | unfo- | mouse > keyboard |
| 11:59.06 | ZorbaTHut | elastic tabstops > spaces > tabs |
| 11:59.14 | ZorbaTHut | wish more people supported 'em :( |
| 11:59.14 | krka_ | swedish > english |
| 11:59.22 | unfo- | finnish > swedish |
| 11:59.23 | unfo- | ;) |
| 11:59.26 | krka_ | java > c++ |
| 11:59.30 | sylvanaar_work | ^ |
| 11:59.38 | sylvanaar_work | but |
| 11:59.44 | sylvanaar_work | c# > java |
| 11:59.52 | sylvanaar_work | lulz |
| 12:00.06 | krka_ | let the flamewar begin! |
| 12:00.12 | krka_ | android > iphone |
| 12:00.26 | sylvanaar_work | oh no he didn't! |
| 12:00.29 | jnwhiteh | git's branch management works much better with the way I develope |
| 12:01.22 | foxlit | sylvanaar_work: d flat > c sharp |
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| 12:01.39 | sylvanaar_work | i thought they were = |
| 12:01.43 | sylvanaar_work | go figure |
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| 12:02.06 | foxlit | (there is no c sharp) |
| 12:02.10 | airtonix | city of heroes > wow |
| 12:02.11 | foxlit | (likewise, there is no d flat) |
| 12:02.18 | sylvanaar_work | really? |
| 12:02.46 | sylvanaar_work | is that like "there is no spoon"? |
| 12:03.00 | airtonix | you're a spoon |
| 12:03.10 | foxlit | I'm off by... one. |
| 12:03.11 | krka_ | nintendo > sega |
| 12:03.17 | sylvanaar_work | ok afk for breakfast |
| 12:03.27 | foxlit | > > < |
| 12:03.45 | krka_ | true dat |
| 12:03.53 | krka_ | < < > |
| 12:03.55 | airtonix | -.- |
| 12:04.03 | krka_ | = = = |
| 12:09.43 | jnwhiteh | Okay, brainstorming |
| 12:10.20 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 12:10.35 | jnwhiteh | I'm looking at software architecture of systems-level concurrent programs, and I'm looking for another case study. When I say systems-level concurrent programs, what springs to mind? |
| 12:10.36 | krka_ | brainstorming > brainfarting |
| 12:10.37 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: hihi |
| 12:10.37 | Fisker | what brain do you need stormed? |
| 12:10.57 | krka_ | not sure what you mean by systems-level |
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| 12:11.42 | jnwhiteh | normally refers to operating system-level, i.e. interacting with the hardware at some level, although it no longer quite means that |
| 12:11.45 | jnwhiteh | so just think concurrent applications |
| 12:13.00 | zenzio | like alt+tabbing between your porn and WoW+ |
| 12:13.01 | zenzio | *? |
| 12:13.02 | krka_ | erlang, akka, message passing springs to mind |
| 12:13.15 | jnwhiteh | krka_: I'm looking at applications that need to built |
| 12:13.28 | jnwhiteh | I already have the language and patterns of architecture |
| 12:13.29 | krka_ | can you rephrase that in the form of a sentence? |
| 12:13.48 | jnwhiteh | I need to write an application, as a case study. |
| 12:14.10 | jnwhiteh | so I'm looking for examples of applications with internal concurrency, ideally where there is contention for a shared resource. |
| 12:14.14 | krka_ | and you want examples of other applications that use concurrent techniques? |
| 12:14.19 | krka_ | i see |
| 12:14.32 | krka_ | well, without communication between threads, it's really trivial :P |
| 12:14.34 | krka_ | so i got that |
| 12:14.54 | krka_ | twitter? |
| 12:15.23 | jnwhiteh | no, not looking at anything at that level, since the only 'concurrency' there is the web server and the database server |
| 12:15.29 | jnwhiteh | those would be the 'applications' in this case |
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| 12:18.49 | krka_ | can't really come up with any good examples |
| 12:18.56 | zenzio | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCgbYnNAbSM&feature=feedlik |
| 12:19.07 | jnwhiteh | well thanks =) |
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| 12:20.39 | airtonix | gconf ? |
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| 12:20.59 | airtonix | or you mean resource without a proxy manager os somekind |
| 12:21.04 | airtonix | of* |
| 12:21.21 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. |
| 12:21.40 | airtonix | when you say resource i assume you mean a place to store and read data |
| 12:21.42 | airtonix | one place |
| 12:21.47 | airtonix | used by two processes |
| 12:21.49 | jnwhiteh | it means a 'resource'.. whatever that is. |
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| 12:22.02 | jnwhiteh | could be a disk drive, could be any shared resources |
| 12:23.44 | airtonix | can access to the resource be managed by some kind of queue manager process ? |
| 12:24.01 | airtonix | or does the case study have to be about something that is direct device access |
| 12:24.20 | airtonix | or direct to resource access |
| 12:24.25 | jnwhiteh | I would haev to implement the queue manager process |
| 12:25.02 | Fisker | plants a mine underneath jnwhiteh |
| 12:26.14 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: I still don't quite get what you're after |
| 12:26.25 | jnwhiteh | nevermind then |
| 12:27.15 | mitch0 | neverminds |
| 12:27.43 | jnwhiteh | My research is looking at methods of constructing concurrent software using our specific method. In order to look at it, I need to go through a few case studies. I've built a novel concurrent web server for the first application, but I am currently looking for another candidate application. |
| 12:30.12 | airtonix | video mixing ? |
| 12:30.34 | Xinhuan | user authentication servers? |
| 12:30.55 | jnwhiteh | thanks, I'll think about both of those,. |
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| 12:31.51 | haste | a userspace init-daemon! |
| 12:32.12 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 12:34.02 | airtonix | can see much hilarity |
| 12:35.11 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.19 | haste | . |
| 12:35.24 | haste | ffffffuuuuu's. |
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| 12:36.02 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:36.04 | haste | hey, kernel didn't panic |
| 12:36.22 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn. Happy Windsday |
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| 12:47.07 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 12:47.17 | Fisker | our kernel doesn't panic |
| 12:47.17 | Fisker | PWNT |
| 12:49.22 | Lopeppeppy | I think that should be "our kernel don't panic", for extra redneck flavorsauce. |
| 12:51.12 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/wet_wabbit.jpg |
| 12:51.24 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 12:51.29 | Cairenn | poor rabbit |
| 12:52.16 | Lopeppeppy | Bunny has no body! Poor thing. |
| 12:52.17 | zenzio | linking this again for emphasis, fear the transformer owl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCgbYnNAbSM&feature=feedlik |
| 12:52.30 | mikma | cairenn: moving is fun: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/labeled_boxes.jpg |
| 12:52.39 | krka_ | you don't have problems with your emphasis then! |
| 12:53.13 | zenzio | mikma: that looks like every moving box I've ever seen |
| 12:53.25 | Fisker | rage |
| 12:53.26 | zenzio | I distinctly remember labelling our "pornography" when we were moving from the old office to the new |
| 12:53.31 | Fisker | the devil is fucking with my netbanking |
| 12:53.32 | zenzio | *ours |
| 12:53.37 | Fisker | "Errorcode: 999" |
| 12:55.04 | Cairenn | lol |
| 12:56.00 | mikma | fisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/everyone_would_download.jpg |
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| 12:57.04 | Fisker | Downloading Red Alert 3 qualifies for downloading a bear as well |
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| 12:57.33 | Fisker | So looking forward to ACTA and TPB getting raped in court again today? |
| 12:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | ... grrr. |
| 12:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, please pick different words, you big chaos magnet, you. |
| 12:59.47 | Cairenn | didn't we just go through that yesterday? |
| 13:00.52 | Fisker | TPB being "slammed" in court? |
| 13:01.19 | Cairenn | more acceptable, thank you |
| 13:01.59 | Fisker | atleast i can still mention pirate here without being banned :( |
| 13:02.29 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: yes? |
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| 13:03.12 | airtonix | Fisker, fuck your bears i have flying tanks |
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| 13:03.59 | Thunder_Child | but he has teleporting bears |
| 13:04.23 | airtonix | in russia teleporting bear still gets flattened with GDP of one meeelion tanks! |
| 13:04.30 | Fisker | i don't know what i should do airtonix |
| 13:04.32 | Fisker | i'm bored |
| 13:05.02 | airtonix | i think you should... |
| 13:05.17 | Fisker | does this include bodily harm to myself? |
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| 13:05.23 | airtonix | well no |
| 13:05.27 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 13:05.27 | Mike-N-Go | Yes? |
| 13:05.31 | airtonix | at least not that i can tell |
| 13:06.05 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 13:06.22 | airtonix | fallout 3 + Settlers Mod + Mutant Mayhem Mod |
| 13:06.27 | airtonix | go! |
| 13:06.33 | Fisker | i don't think i can |
| 13:06.46 | Fisker | Maybe Fallout: New Vegas when that gets released |
| 13:06.59 | airtonix | i just wish the settlers mod was more stable |
| 13:07.03 | Fisker | i want to play Borderlands |
| 13:07.04 | airtonix | its so much fun |
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| 13:07.09 | Fisker | But Parnic is a jerk so i have no savegames |
| 13:07.25 | airtonix | no you will follow my conversation and leaves yours alone |
| 13:07.35 | Fisker | never |
| 13:07.48 | airtonix | releases baboon 2.0 |
| 13:07.53 | airtonix | keeel! |
| 13:07.58 | Fisker | it's kinda lazy though |
| 13:08.06 | Fisker | implement achievements in Steam |
| 13:08.11 | Fisker | But not Steam Cloud and such stuff |
| 13:08.38 | Fisker | heck they should've thrown Gamespy to the ground |
| 13:08.46 | Fisker | because they shouldn't want to be part of their system |
| 13:09.30 | airtonix | brb taking kids to the pool |
| 13:09.50 | Fisker | suuuuuure dungeon dad |
| 13:09.51 | airtonix | Fisker, do you want to come as well |
| 13:10.05 | airtonix | i'll let you heal |
| 13:10.09 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, floatie wings for Fisker? |
| 13:10.14 | Lopeppeppy | I'd pay for those pictures. |
| 13:10.20 | Fisker | :I |
| 13:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure you look smashing in yellow, Fisker. |
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| 13:11.03 | airtonix | records lo'pep fetish #4 |
| 13:12.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh baby, you've only remembered 4 of mine? |
| 13:12.46 | Lopeppeppy | I'm devastated. And stuff. |
| 13:13.54 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/09/oh_hai_toughguy_giant_wow_hord.php |
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| 13:30.25 | |Jelly| | pounces on Peppy and holds her down while Cairenn pummels her with a pillow! |
| 13:30.39 | Lopeppeppy | No, i want to sleeps on that pillow! Noooooo! |
| 13:30.45 | Ackis | Fisker: why do you suck? |
| 13:30.50 | |Jelly| | Blame Cairenn |
| 13:30.56 | |Jelly| | She's the one that hit you with it. |
| 13:31.08 | |Jelly| | Oh and Minecraft is the devil. That is all. |
| 13:31.09 | Cairenn | lol |
| 13:31.30 | Lopeppeppy | What is this Minecraft? |
| 13:31.44 | Ackis | Minecraft is like warcraft but in a mine |
| 13:31.51 | Ackis | you have to be Chilean to play though |
| 13:31.54 | Thunder_Child | it's like crack....sadly |
| 13:32.04 | |Jelly| | http://www.minecraft.net/ -- don't say I didn't warn you |
| 13:32.16 | mikma | ackis: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/09/dedication_you_have_it_guy_mak.php |
| 13:33.19 | Lopeppeppy | The roller coaster video is... interesting, but not in a "must play!" way |
| 13:33.35 | |Jelly| | Don't play it. |
| 13:33.42 | |Jelly| | Especially if you're having problems sleeping already. |
| 13:33.49 | Thunder_Child | it doesnt even have any zombies in it |
| 13:34.12 | theorbtwo | There seem to be zombie-like creatures in the paid versions. |
| 13:34.26 | |Jelly| | Oh, they're zombies alright! :P |
| 13:34.32 | |Jelly| | And skeletons! And spiders! |
| 13:34.38 | theorbtwo | I tried the free version, and didn't really see what the point was, but from what I've read, the paid version seems to be much more interesting. |
| 13:34.40 | Ackis | mikma: wow... did he do the inside as well? |
| 13:34.53 | Thunder_Child | i mean in the rollercoaster video |
| 13:34.57 | mikma | ackis: not yet, but all the decks are there |
| 13:35.10 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't slept more than 3 hours in a row in over a week, I'll be avoiding any sleep traps! |
| 13:35.55 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:35.57 | Ackis | I saw someone create a planet earth in minecraft |
| 13:36.08 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 13:36.12 | Fisker | why do you suck? |
| 13:36.19 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 13:36.25 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Why not? |
| 13:36.45 | |Jelly| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWPk5zlKAEM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnq6BHs07yY |
| 13:36.51 | |Jelly| | Anywho .. back to getting ready for work |
| 13:37.24 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, my mom passed away. This makes for sleepus interruptus for a good long while, in my observation. |
| 13:37.38 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Very sorry to hear that. |
| 13:37.57 | Fisker | roadhouse |
| 13:38.01 | |Jelly| | huggles Peppy and cuddELZ her harccorelike! :( |
| 13:38.15 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks. *hug* I'm an old hand at insomnia, so any little upset and wheee! Greater Unslept Peppykin! |
| 13:38.26 | Lopeppeppy | oooh, hardcore cuddles! |
| 13:38.45 | Ackis | Fisker: did you build an enterprise? |
| 13:40.34 | Wobin | Oh god |
| 13:40.35 | Wobin | Creepers |
| 13:40.38 | Wobin | >< |
| 13:40.45 | Wobin | They blew up my cave twice |
| 13:40.52 | Wobin | before I surrounded it with water traps |
| 13:40.58 | Ackis | what game? |
| 13:41.02 | Wobin | Minecraft |
| 13:41.09 | Ackis | stuff blows up? |
| 13:41.16 | Wobin | There's a mob called a creeper |
| 13:41.24 | Wobin | that makes no noise, until it's right on top of you |
| 13:41.28 | Wobin | and it self destructs |
| 13:41.36 | Wobin | taking out a 9x9 cube with it |
| 13:41.41 | Thunder_Child | and it hurts |
| 13:41.47 | Wobin | nods |
| 13:41.52 | Thunder_Child | though it is a fast way to change topography |
| 13:41.53 | Wobin | er, 3x3x3 |
| 13:42.06 | Wobin | truth |
| 13:42.25 | Wobin | I built my place into the face of a cliff fronted with a lake |
| 13:42.28 | Wobin | it's very pretty |
| 13:42.38 | Wobin | (and then surrounded the paths in with water traps =P |
| 13:42.45 | mitch0 | if you look at it from far enough ;) |
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| 13:42.57 | Wobin | ah, the 8bit is half the charm =) |
| 13:43.32 | Ackis | if they add yellow to 8 bit it'll be 9 bit and then we can make a commercial about it |
| 13:44.06 | Ackis | see what I did there? |
| 13:44.08 | Ackis | I made fun of Fisker |
| 13:44.44 | Lopeppeppy | Creeper = devilsaur! |
| 13:45.13 | Wobin | even worse, imo |
| 13:47.17 | Ackis | but devilsaurs suck because they're in wow! |
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| 13:49.58 | Ackis | hey Fisker how many achievements do you have in Civ 5? |
| 13:54.13 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TeYxp3OBS0 |
| 13:55.05 | Thunder_Child | ackis i think you can go look |
| 13:56.13 | Thunder_Child | i only have 15 :( |
| 13:57.06 | Thunder_Child | though the fact that they have an achive for beating the game as each civ is meh |
| 13:57.18 | Ackis | I think I'm at 50% with them |
| 13:57.25 | Ackis | I just need 1 more map size to get that done |
| 13:57.28 | Ackis | and 1 more difficulty |
| 13:58.42 | Xinhuan | Experimenter |
| 13:58.43 | Xinhuan | Play a game with a Mod. |
| 13:58.47 | Xinhuan | lol when did i get that achievement |
| 13:58.53 | Xinhuan | i only played tutorial 1! |
| 13:59.00 | Xinhuan | which i guess is a mod? |
| 13:59.26 | zenzio | "The press pack for EA's Godfather 2 included a few surprises, including a cigar, some matches, a thin wire for choking fools... and, of course, brass knuckles. Brass knuckles that ended up being illegal in many states." |
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| 14:02.15 | Ackis | "your awesome, and your aussie, your aussome" |
| 14:02.39 | zenzio | would be funny, except the Aussies I know seem to just say "orsm" |
| 14:03.13 | zenzio | and I won't mention how long it took me to figure that "this arvo" was "this afternoon" |
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| 14:04.24 | Xinhuan | aha steam bug found |
| 14:04.29 | Ackis | 3 more months til I'm 30 :( |
| 14:04.32 | Xinhuan | civ 5 remains on my wishlist! |
| 14:04.49 | Xinhuan | if i bought a retail copy and added it that way |
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| 14:05.18 | Ackis | Xinhuan: so the tutorial is considered a mod? |
| 14:05.24 | Xinhuan | apparently |
| 14:05.30 | Xinhuan | cos that's the only thing i played so far |
| 14:05.36 | Xinhuan | and i mean the movement tutorial |
| 14:06.05 | Ackis | I'm gonna have to try that for the cheev |
| 14:06.17 | Ackis | this is the first steam game I've cared about achievements |
| 14:07.59 | Xinhuan | really |
| 14:08.42 | Xinhuan | hmmm prince of persia: forgotten sands 29.99 |
| 14:08.46 | Xinhuan | wasn't it 39.99 a week ago |
| 14:08.49 | Xinhuan | or at launch |
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| 14:24.54 | cogwheel | so i made a post yesterday on sc2 forums that is already my most popular |
| 14:25.55 | cogwheel | suggesting a way to help a gamer deal with a non-gamer gf/wife/etc |
| 14:25.57 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 14:26.01 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 14:26.02 | cogwheel | ahh starcraft |
| 14:26.12 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/791239231#7 |
| 14:26.14 | Lopeppeppy | but the Mrs. does some gaming, does she not? |
| 14:26.42 | cogwheel | yeah |
| 14:26.49 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, I see, now that I read. |
| 14:27.12 | Fisker | deals cogwheel some fruit |
| 14:27.14 | Lopeppeppy | And boy do I read a lot of trash. Time not to read any more comments. |
| 14:27.26 | Sixen | Cogwheel is my Gnomey. |
| 14:27.28 | cogwheel | yeah... |
| 14:27.35 | Sixen | cwutididthar? |
| 14:27.36 | cogwheel | i was surprised at how quickly that thread went down hill |
| 14:27.39 | cogwheel | (though i shouldn't be) |
| 14:27.48 | cogwheel | Sixen: zomglawl ur so originall!!!! |
| 14:27.51 | cogwheel | ducks |
| 14:27.52 | cogwheel | <3 |
| 14:27.52 | Lopeppeppy | hate is easy, drags down a thread so fast. |
| 14:27.57 | Sixen | lol |
| 14:28.02 | Sixen | Hai Peppy |
| 14:28.27 | Lopeppeppy | oh hai! |
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| 14:29.43 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 14:29.46 | Fisker | you just got fruit |
| 14:29.52 | Fisker | a whole basket indeed |
| 14:29.58 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy fruit? Or normal fruit? |
| 14:30.08 | mikma | http://naurunappula.com/425120/fuckthesystem.jpg |
| 14:30.22 | Fisker | zergy fruit Lopeppeppy |
| 14:31.53 | Xinhuan | are the starcraft forums cross-regional? |
| 14:31.59 | Fisker | of course not |
| 14:32.03 | Xinhuan | like can US accounts write on EU ones |
| 14:32.07 | Fisker | of course not |
| 14:32.11 | Xinhuan | aww |
| 14:32.11 | Sixen | No, Xinhuan |
| 14:32.12 | Sixen | =\ |
| 14:32.23 | Sixen | Trial Accounts can post while expired though :) |
| 14:32.32 | Fisker | Blizzard likes ignoring all their other regions |
| 14:32.33 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 14:33.17 | Thunder_Child | thats the point, they dont have any other regions |
| 14:33.27 | Fisker | oh snaaaap |
| 14:34.04 | cog|away | hopes he isn't attacked by bees |
| 14:34.18 | cog|away | they're after me fruity charms! |
| 14:34.23 | Thunder_Child | cog|away: dont go outside? |
| 14:34.47 | cog|away | gladly |
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| 14:35.06 | cog|away | if my work had an attached garage i wouldn't have to. |
| 14:35.08 | cog|away | >< |
| 14:35.25 | Ackis | http://fukung.net/v/32630/f891931a96f857c487ccf4e11e07cc4b.jpg |
| 14:35.30 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5649820/sony-ericssons-mini-display-for-android-phones-looks-like-an-ipod-nano ok, thats odd |
| 14:35.47 | cog|away | UR ODD |
| 14:35.54 | cog|away | |aways and caffeinates |
| 14:35.56 | Thunder_Child | yea |
| 14:36.38 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: wont let me see it :( |
| 14:36.52 | Ackis | y? |
| 14:37.01 | Thunder_Child | i dunno |
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| 14:38.26 | Ackis | Aunt: You know they make Viagra for women now? Granny: Yeah, it's called CASH. |
| 14:38.30 | Ackis | lulz |
| 14:39.45 | Fisker | sony ericsson sucks Thunder_Child |
| 14:40.00 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: and what do they suck? |
| 14:40.27 | Fisker | you |
| 14:40.35 | Fisker | that's what it said |
| 14:40.50 | Ackis | Researchers found that when you deindividuate a person--or place the person in a situation where he or she doesn't have an individual identity--aggressive attitudes are amplified. This makes sense. It's probably why Marines are required to wear the same uniform, and hipsters are such pussies. |
| 14:41.41 | Fisker | your a pussi |
| 14:42.17 | haste | Fisker: stryk glasset for å låse opp! |
| 14:43.07 | Fisker | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20100928/bs_nf/75366 <-dun dun dun haste |
| 14:43.33 | haste | seen it! :3 |
| 14:44.36 | Thunder_Child | http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ULONB8?tag=up2go-20 that is such a bad NSFW image |
| 14:45.45 | Ackis | apparently 25% of people with eating disorders are men |
| 14:46.38 | Ackis | "Making jokes about domestic violence is about as awesome as making jokes about genocide." why is cracked.com so funny Fisker? |
| 14:48.03 | Ackis | aww http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/0/8/0/32080.jpg?v=1 |
| 14:50.42 | mikma | http://naurunappula.com/407815/hmm.jpg |
| 14:50.57 | Xinhuan | hmm is there a convenient way to see when i last booted up my PC (in win 7) |
| 14:51.56 | nevcairiel | ~seen iriel |
| 14:52.00 | purl | iriel <~Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 11h 24m 48s ago, saying: 'Or do they need to bow to the retailers?'. |
| 14:52.15 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: GI Joe? >< |
| 14:52.16 | Fisker | Xinhuan do you mean for your current boot or the boot before that? |
| 14:52.20 | Wobin | Or Ken Doll =P |
| 14:52.34 | Xinhuan | current |
| 14:52.57 | Fisker | systeminfo |
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| 14:53.57 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: what? |
| 14:54.19 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: there's a somewhat definitive lack of crotch on that photo |
| 14:54.29 | Wobin | for a pair of men's underwear =P |
| 14:55.48 | Ackis | I saw a 3 legged dog on the weekend |
| 14:56.02 | Wobin | how did it smell? |
| 14:56.27 | Sixen | lol |
| 14:56.34 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: thats the back |
| 14:57.04 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
| 14:57.07 | Fisker | i'm looking at you |
| 14:57.28 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: looks like abs to me =P |
| 14:57.34 | Sixen | orly |
| 14:57.53 | Xinhuan | which part of system info |
| 14:58.07 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: you are looking at muscles to the sides of the spine |
| 14:58.13 | Fisker | it's a command Xinhuan |
| 14:58.13 | Wobin | Probably |
| 14:58.17 | Wobin | flat arse |
| 14:58.25 | Thunder_Child | yes @ that one |
| 14:58.55 | Xinhuan | its ok i figured out a more convenient way |
| 14:59.01 | Xinhuan | //echo 4 $calc( $uptime / 60 / 60 / 24 ) |
| 14:59.02 | Xinhuan | lol |
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| 15:00.13 | Fisker | this is like basic knowledge Xinhuan |
| 15:00.24 | Fisker | i'm very disappointed in you, son |
| 15:01.25 | Ackis | interesting http://bit.ly/96UhmL |
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| 15:03.18 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 15:03.42 | Xinhuan | System Boot Time: 9/14/2010, 11:22:31 PM |
| 15:03.47 | Xinhuan | pretty accurate anyway |
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| 15:04.23 | Lopeppeppy | huggles malreth. |
| 15:04.29 | Fisker | kills malreth |
| 15:04.36 | cog|away | beers malreth |
| 15:04.56 | Fisker | you would beer a dead guy cog|work ? |
| 15:04.58 | Fisker | monster |
| 15:05.26 | Ackis | Fisker: how many Civ 5 cheevs do you have? |
| 15:05.48 | cog|work | hmm... my server has been up for 125 days |
| 15:05.58 | nevcairiel | time for a kernel update, imho |
| 15:06.03 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I got 2 more legendary missions done last night, now I just have two left (the one before you fly in space, and the one where you fly in space) |
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| 15:06.19 | Fisker | http://notalwaysright.com/constant-new-viruses-are-such-a-strain/7289 <-oh my one where it's not only the customer who's an idiot |
| 15:06.32 | Fisker | idk Ackis |
| 15:06.35 | malreth | MY CAMPUS WENT ON LOCK DOWN AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID TSHIRT |
| 15:06.48 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: meh ive already done those |
| 15:06.56 | cbreak_work | someone got shot? :( |
| 15:07.25 | cog|work | nevcairiel: only 3 revisions worth... 2.6.32-22 to -25 |
| 15:07.25 | Fisker | malreth i guess it was orange and it says something about prisoner on the back? |
| 15:07.39 | Fisker | kernel revisions do not work that way cog|work |
| 15:07.40 | Fisker | goodnight |
| 15:07.56 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: I should have at least one of them done tonight, if all goes well I'll have them both done and get my legendary achievements completed... did you see the exploit to get the Lt. Col achievement to pop btw? |
| 15:08.29 | Fisker | goodbye Ackis |
| 15:08.31 | nevcairiel | cog|work: sounds like vendor specific versions, latest .32 upstream is 2.6.32.23 .. so no idea what exploit wasnt fixed in there yet =) |
| 15:08.45 | Arrowmaster | so are you saying i should stop playing TFU and go beat reach on legendary before you? |
| 15:08.46 | cog|work | nevcairiel: that's how ubuntu labels them |
| 15:09.39 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: no not at all :P |
| 15:10.00 | nevcairiel | SG:U continues, but in the middle of the week now, eh. No good time slot on friday anymore |
| 15:10.40 | malreth | people still watch SG:U? |
| 15:10.49 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: yeah SG:U and Caprica both going to be on tuesday night |
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| 15:10.59 | Ackis | I don't like SG:U because I can't watch it in HD :( |
| 15:11.10 | nevcairiel | do what we EU folks do |
| 15:11.15 | nevcairiel | download it, because broadcasters suck |
| 15:11.53 | Ackis | downloading is annoying |
| 15:12.13 | Adys | (04:11:14 PM) Adys: and it's bigger than you think |
| 15:12.13 | Adys | (04:11:17 PM) Adys: you haven't seen all of it. |
| 15:12.13 | Adys | (04:11:20 PM) amro: oh I know how big it is. |
| 15:12.13 | Adys | (04:11:23 PM) amro: I've touched it. |
| 15:12.13 | Adys | (04:11:33 PM) Adys: it wasn't entirely revealed. |
| 15:12.14 | Adys | \o/ |
| 15:12.15 | Ackis | I have to find it, then download it, then wait, then make sure I can watch it on my tv, etc |
| 15:12.20 | Arrowmaster | i only download SD, HD is such a waste when its from a broadcast |
| 15:12.38 | nevcairiel | still much better then SD on a big tv |
| 15:12.42 | zenzelezz | Adys: that sounds like regular chat in my office |
| 15:12.51 | nevcairiel | i try to get WEB-DL versions when available though |
| 15:12.54 | Arrowmaster | i watch it on my computer monitor |
| 15:13.06 | Arrowmaster | so ive got a good resizer |
| 15:13.09 | amro | SG: U |
| 15:13.11 | amro | so mcuh fail |
| 15:13.18 | amro | I still can't believe they cancelled SGA for that shit |
| 15:13.26 | Ackis | you do everything on your computer monitor Arrowmaster |
| 15:13.29 | Adys | did you watch the new eps? |
| 15:13.29 | amro | it's the exact opposite of what SG was before that |
| 15:13.31 | nevcairiel | the timeslot move is the first indicator that it wont be back next year |
| 15:13.38 | zenzelezz | I still don't acknowledge any Star Gate past the old movie |
| 15:13.38 | amro | I don't want to |
| 15:13.50 | amro | SG1 and SGA were about a small group of really awesome people doing cool shit |
| 15:13.53 | Adys | zenzelezz: why would you do that? |
| 15:14.01 | amro | SGU is about a huge group of total degenerates stabbing each other in the back |
| 15:14.06 | nevcairiel | SG1 was brilliant |
| 15:14.07 | Lopeppeppy | Amber in space. |
| 15:14.13 | Adys | the old movie was good but sga was way better than both sg1 and sg original |
| 15:14.14 | nevcairiel | SGA still good, but not like SG1 |
| 15:14.23 | Adys | nevcairiel: :( |
| 15:14.23 | Lopeppeppy | I watched I think three episodes of SGU before I gave up in disgust. |
| 15:14.35 | amro | I lasted until the half season finale |
| 15:14.46 | zenzelezz | Adys: in my view, Star Gate was finished after the movie |
| 15:14.51 | amro | I kept thinking, it's going to get better, it has to, this is stargate |
| 15:15.01 | amro | zenzelezz: and we never landed on the moon |
| 15:15.04 | zenzelezz | and seeing MacGyver in the series ensured I'd never try them |
| 15:15.10 | Adys | dude |
| 15:15.11 | amro | okay that's it |
| 15:15.13 | Adys | that's what made it awesome |
| 15:15.15 | amro | timeout |
| 15:15.23 | amro | hands zenzelezz a red card |
| 15:15.26 | nevcairiel | Adys: i don't like the wraith, enemys need to gloat more, like the goa'uld =p |
| 15:15.35 | Adys | oh yeah whatever about them |
| 15:15.36 | Adys | although |
| 15:15.36 | amro | yeah the wraith were fail |
| 15:15.37 | Adys | todd++ |
| 15:15.41 | zenzelezz | soon you'll be telling me "zomg you must watch House and Heroes and stuff" too |
| 15:15.46 | amro | but the team more than made up for it |
| 15:15.49 | Adys | zenzelezz: do you? |
| 15:15.55 | zenzelezz | of course not |
| 15:15.59 | Adys | damn |
| 15:16.07 | amro | what do you watch then? |
| 15:16.11 | nevcairiel | heroes went downhill fast after the first season |
| 15:16.14 | Adys | but dude, why wouldn't you watch a series with rda in them? |
| 15:16.16 | nevcairiel | but house is always fun =P |
| 15:16.18 | zenzelezz | amro: not much really |
| 15:16.24 | Adys | i got into sg1 *because* rda was in it |
| 15:16.25 | amro | then we don't really care what you have to say |
| 15:16.26 | zenzelezz | Adys: RDA? |
| 15:16.29 | Adys | macgyber |
| 15:16.30 | amro | richard dean anderson |
| 15:16.32 | Adys | macgyver |
| 15:16.33 | zenzelezz | oh |
| 15:16.40 | zenzelezz | I do - I watch MacGyver |
| 15:16.46 | nevcairiel | yeah, RDA is awesome in SG1 |
| 15:16.55 | Adys | why wouldnt you watch sg1 because rda is in it? |
| 15:17.03 | amro | yeah that's a double fail |
| 15:17.10 | zenzelezz | RDA to me is like the cast of Friends. I can never watch them outside Friends |
| 15:17.20 | Adys | trust me, he's good in sg1 |
| 15:17.25 | amro | because the cast of friends are horrible actors |
| 15:17.25 | zenzelezz | I still go "dude, what's Ross doing in Band of Brothers?" |
| 15:17.31 | Lopeppeppy | I am forbidden to watch House. I make merciless fun of their violations of hospital protocol, medical ethics, and just overall hygiene. |
| 15:17.38 | Adys | and thats coming from someone who has watched every single episode of both macgyver and sg1 |
| 15:17.47 | nevcairiel | I even liked that other guy, mitchell, forgot the actors name, even though i watched him in farscape 4 times over or so |
| 15:18.00 | amro | yeah mitchell was good |
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| 15:18.06 | Adys | "meh" |
| 15:18.16 | Adys | i try to kind of block out the last 3 seasons of sg1 |
| 15:18.18 | amro | but mckay was the best |
| 15:18.23 | Wobin | ben browder? |
| 15:18.27 | nevcairiel | thats the name |
| 15:18.40 | nevcairiel | I sure wish farscape would've been longer |
| 15:19.17 | Wobin | I liked Firefly, I wish that'd gone longer |
| 15:19.25 | nevcairiel | that was great too |
| 15:19.35 | Wobin | Castle is good |
| 15:19.42 | zenzelezz | I keep confusing Firefly and Farscape |
| 15:19.51 | Wobin | One is Cowboys in Space |
| 15:19.56 | Wobin | The other is Muppets In Space |
| 15:20.00 | Ackis | they both were terrible |
| 15:20.03 | cog|work | much easier to confuse farscape and lexx imo |
| 15:20.04 | nevcairiel | Nathan in castle is awesome |
| 15:20.06 | Ackis | farscape slightly less so |
| 15:20.15 | cog|work | ~lart Ackis |
| 15:20.15 | purl | stuffs Ackis into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 15:20.15 | zenzelezz | cog|work: maybe by content, I'm talking by name |
| 15:20.18 | Wobin | Firefly had good banter |
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| 15:20.27 | cog|work | Ackis: go back to your xbox :P |
| 15:20.31 | Ackis | I've never watched serenity |
| 15:20.41 | Adys | Ackis why :( |
| 15:20.44 | Ackis | cog|work: you're just jealous |
| 15:20.53 | Ackis | Adys: I didn't like the series the few episodes I watched |
| 15:20.54 | nicoli_s | meh, i dislike most stuff joss whedon does |
| 15:20.56 | Wobin | Serenity only really makes sense if you've seen Firefly |
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| 15:21.07 | amro | it's still an awesome movie |
| 15:21.11 | Wobin | true |
| 15:21.12 | Adys | serenity was an awesome closer for firefly |
| 15:21.15 | cog|work | nicoli_s: you go back to your xbox too! |
| 15:21.16 | cog|work | :P |
| 15:21.21 | Adys | it's sad to watch because it reminds you that firefly ends :( |
| 15:21.23 | amro | but that's kind of a problem with it |
| 15:21.25 | amro | yeah |
| 15:21.31 | Wobin | I am a leaf on the wind =( |
| 15:21.36 | cog|work | nicoli_s: no wait go fix sc2replayed :> |
| 15:21.40 | amro | watch me GUHHHHHHHHH |
| 15:21.44 | cog|work | ducks |
| 15:21.50 | Adys | watches amro GUHHHHHHHH |
| 15:22.04 | Adys | (also it's "watch how i" |
| 15:22.06 | Adys | ) |
| 15:22.11 | Wobin | Waaaaaash =( |
| 15:22.17 | amro | I've only seen the movie once |
| 15:22.20 | amro | can't bring myself to watch it agian |
| 15:22.21 | nicoli_s | cog|work:you go do it |
| 15:22.22 | Adys | so have i :P |
| 15:22.32 | amro | you saw it more recently |
| 15:22.36 | amro | wins |
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| 15:22.38 | Adys | don't even try dude |
| 15:22.56 | amro | you saw it like 2 years after I did |
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| 15:22.58 | nicoli_s | i bet you people watched buffy too |
| 15:23.03 | Adys | i did! |
| 15:23.05 | Adys | when i was 8 |
| 15:23.11 | amro | I watched buffy when I was 9 or so |
| 15:23.14 | amro | in french |
| 15:23.16 | amro | >< |
| 15:23.20 | Adys | in french too. |
| 15:23.23 | amro | wilouuuuuuuu |
| 15:23.27 | Adys | maybe we were watching it together with your sister |
| 15:23.31 | Wobin | nicoli_s: I bet you hated Dr Horrible's Sing Along Blog, too |
| 15:23.43 | amro | and beuffy |
| 15:24.01 | nevcairiel | must be horrible |
| 15:24.24 | Wobin | But to be honest, no matter what you can say about DHSAB |
| 15:24.27 | Wobin | NPH redeems all |
| 15:24.49 | nevcairiel | you lost me on the acronyms |
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| 15:25.02 | Wobin | DHSAB - Dr Horrible's Sing Along Blog |
| 15:25.02 | amro | you lost me at Dr Horr- |
| 15:25.08 | Wobin | NPH - Neil Patrick Harris |
| 15:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | Captain Tight Pants! |
| 15:25.30 | Wobin | If you've not seen it, Go! Go now! |
| 15:25.34 | Wobin | and watch it! |
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| 15:26.20 | Lopeppeppy | And listen to it! |
| 15:26.23 | Lopeppeppy | For the music is spectacular! |
| 15:26.27 | Wobin | ^ |
| 15:26.36 | nevcairiel | sounds horrible |
| 15:26.43 | Lopeppeppy | P.S. I am a peanut butter and jelly fish. |
| 15:26.54 | Wobin | no no |
| 15:26.57 | Wobin | sounds DR HORRIBLE |
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| 15:30.32 | Adys | If I start fighting a war, I guarantee you'll see something new. |
| 15:30.35 | Adys | i forgot how badass Mal is |
| 15:30.57 | amro | too bad he has the worst name of any badass ever |
| 15:31.11 | Adys | it's french |
| 15:31.17 | Adys | short for Malcul. |
| 15:31.18 | Wobin | Malcolm? |
| 15:31.31 | amro | took me a second to get that but |
| 15:31.36 | amro | it's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad |
| 15:31.41 | Adys | Maaaaaaaaaaaal. |
| 15:31.43 | Wobin | French puns =( |
| 15:32.08 | Adys | Wobin: "Mal" means "Bad" in french |
| 15:32.13 | amro | malcolm is badass, but not "mal" |
| 15:32.19 | amro | I mean, look at Malcolm X |
| 15:32.24 | Adys | except in french Bad doesn't have two meanings :P |
| 15:32.25 | amro | you just hear that and you're like whoa |
| 15:32.29 | amro | this guy has gigantic balls |
| 15:32.47 | amro | malcul sounds like butthurt |
| 15:33.01 | Adys | because that's what it means :P |
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| 15:33.48 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: not sure if you browse file shares, but check out this: http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=3382307&player=CanadaAckis I got a jetpacking assassination in my first ever slayer win |
| 15:34.37 | amro | CanadaAckis? |
| 15:34.45 | amro | doesn't really roll off the tongue |
| 15:34.51 | amro | why not Canadackis? |
| 15:34.56 | amro | but then that sounds like canada kiss |
| 15:35.20 | Ackis | :P |
| 15:35.48 | mikma | Canackis |
| 15:35.58 | Adys | amro: the canadian version of french kissing? |
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| 15:36.12 | Adys | sounds like a movie |
| 15:36.23 | Adys | "Canadackiss: French kissing with an accent" |
| 15:36.24 | amro | I do not want to know what they'd use instead of their tongues |
| 15:37.27 | Lopeppeppy | Moray eels. |
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| 15:48.17 | Fisker | slaps amro around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:53.20 | mikma | so |
| 15:53.32 | mikma | there we were, doing weekly raid in naxx with 10 man |
| 15:53.56 | mikma | after we wiped on the stoneskin gargoyles... i noticed i had left the difficulty on 25man :D |
| 15:54.13 | mikma | it was the two gargoyles ontop of the stairs + patrol |
| 15:54.23 | mikma | we killed 2 of them and then we had 30x of the debuff |
| 15:54.48 | amro | smooth |
| 15:55.09 | Wobin | canaduckis |
| 15:56.11 | amro | canafuckis |
| 15:56.13 | amro | oops |
| 15:56.53 | Ackis | 23 minutes and you're still going on aboot that eh? :P |
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| 16:10.05 | Shirik | Ackis |
| 16:10.18 | Shirik | have you looked at the icecrown cards yet? |
| 16:11.05 | Shirik | some very interesting stuff in there |
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| 16:14.20 | amro | Ackis: we're gonna keep going on that till you get a name change. I suggest MrsWhittleberry |
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| 16:16.51 | amro | are we in a fucking alley? |
| 16:17.27 | Adys | are we fucking in an alley? |
| 16:17.39 | amro | possibly |
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| 16:22.09 | jnwhiteh | You can't play minecraft survival on a custom server? |
| 16:22.34 | Cide | Shirik: ping |
| 16:22.42 | Shirik | hm? |
| 16:22.55 | Ackis | Shirik: no, I stopped playing |
| 16:22.56 | Cide | pm |
| 16:25.46 | Kraps | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/stephen_hawking.png |
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| 16:26.33 | Kraps | oof that doesnt have the alt text |
| 16:26.43 | Kraps | http://xkcd.com/799/ |
| 16:30.51 | Shirik | Ackis :( |
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| 16:35.14 | amro | cog|work: ping |
| 16:39.10 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:39.11 | Fisker | me |
| 16:39.32 | Fisker | meeeeee? |
| 16:40.38 | Fisker | jerk Shirik |
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| 16:47.47 | cog|work | http://heruniverseshop.com/images/products/Apparel/DaddysGirl_Tee_LAR.jpg |
| 16:49.20 | Dagmar | Dykam: Dude, you can actually hide one cube of water under something else and it'll still reach four squares on all sides for hydration |
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| 16:50.11 | Kraps | every t11 set has a smoke thing going on http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/september/tier11_warlock_male.jpg |
| 16:51.03 | Fisker | http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1550533 <-looks like someone is jealous :3 |
| 16:51.05 | Dagmar | Well, the world *did* just kinda blow up |
| 16:52.44 | nicoli_s | the tier 11 druid armor looks terrible |
| 16:52.48 | Dagmar | Fisker: Actually, the odds are really high that everyone involved in decision-making there have either already made their decision based on the facts at hand, or are likely to be making that decision based on legal arguments that will be presented. Whether or not those guys are there is fairly irrelevant actually |
| 16:52.49 | nicoli_s | since when are druids angels? |
| 16:53.18 | Dagmar | Angel of Fail is a priest thing isn't it? |
| 16:53.34 | Fisker | Dagmar still looks like he's jealous |
| 16:53.40 | Fisker | we already know TPB is going to lose |
| 16:53.56 | Fisker | Sweden is being penetrated anally by the US too much to win |
| 16:54.43 | Kraps | Fisker: when have they actually lost, in all the cases against them? |
| 16:54.54 | Fisker | ? |
| 16:55.02 | Dagmar | Fisker: Dude, no nation-state bends over like that. |
| 16:55.10 | Fisker | Sweden did |
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| 16:55.16 | Dagmar | Really, when? |
| 16:55.25 | Dagmar | WHen did they actually become a 51st state? |
| 16:55.52 | Fisker | The original police raid was pressured in by the US where they threatened to exclude Sweden from some club of cool kids |
| 16:56.16 | Dagmar | I'm inclined to just point out you're wrong and leave it, but... |
| 16:56.20 | Kraps | nicoli_s: to me the white ones look like angel wings, the other colors are more birdish |
| 16:56.23 | Dagmar | You are still wrong. |
| 16:56.27 | Fisker | The current ACTA agreement is much influenced by the US, and tried to be kept secret by them as well |
| 16:56.34 | Fisker | Dagmar i'm not wrong |
| 16:56.37 | Dagmar | The reason the cops went is because there was a _good chance_ something illegal might be going on. |
| 16:56.51 | Dagmar | Sometimes you have to undergo INTENSE SCRUTINY when you're engaging in edge behaviours |
| 16:56.58 | Dagmar | It's a bitch, but it happens. |
| 16:57.09 | Dagmar | <-- looked at by tha man several times now |
| 16:58.07 | Dagmar | No such arguments are likely to sway Swedish authorities again, after, metaphorically speaking, the cops are completely famililar with the lower intestinal tracts of everyone involved |
| 16:58.12 | Fisker | http://torrentfreak.com/sweden-threatened-with-trade-sanctions-by-the-us-over-the-piratebay/ |
| 16:58.18 | Fisker | so Dagmar |
| 16:58.32 | Dagmar | Yeah, so they made a gesture and Sweden made a gesture |
| 16:58.39 | Fisker | before of course you go on some rampage saying i'm wrong, despite once again being right, go and shut the fuck up :) |
| 16:58.54 | Dagmar | Fisker: You ever had the cops show up on your dootstep? |
| 16:59.09 | Fisker | You ever had sexual intercourse with a man? |
| 16:59.19 | Dagmar | ...for more than just playing Lady Gaga too loud, I mean |
| 16:59.23 | Fisker | because i believe you just did |
| 17:00.14 | Dagmar | IF Sweden had really been giving in to the degree you claim, all those fuckers would be locked up in jail |
| 17:00.30 | Dagmar | There'd have been a sham trial, and it would have been over and done with already |
| 17:00.43 | Cide | no? |
| 17:01.13 | Cide | sweden have proper and fair trials |
| 17:01.21 | Dagmar | Just like every country does, sure |
| 17:01.26 | nevcairiel | don't mind the USians, they are not used to that |
| 17:01.43 | Dagmar | Either way, Cide reinforces the argument. |
| 17:02.06 | Dagmar | Sometimes nation-states have to actually sit down and piss away a lot of time deciding for sure about something |
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| 17:02.15 | Cide | they took the site down and they charged them (they gave in), but there's still a fair trial |
| 17:02.46 | Ackis | nevcairiel: not used to fair and proper trials? |
| 17:02.48 | Fisker | I'll remember that Dagmar |
| 17:02.55 | Dagmar | Well, if the trial was fair, that also means Fisker is wrong. |
| 17:02.55 | Fisker | If i have to do something illegal, just get a sidekick |
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| 17:03.12 | Fisker | because 2 people saying something isn't right, when evidence suggest that it is, is obviously valued over said evidence |
| 17:03.15 | nevcairiel | Fisker is always wrong, thats a fact of life |
| 17:03.15 | Fisker | this is weet |
| 17:03.23 | Fisker | i just got the get out of jail free-card |
| 17:03.25 | Fisker | herp derp Dagmar |
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| 17:05.29 | TC-Work | grr, the amount of java i am having to stick in my html is annoying |
| 17:05.41 | Cide | what? |
| 17:05.43 | Cide | java in html? |
| 17:05.48 | TC-Work | especially because i don't know java |
| 17:05.53 | Cide | how |
| 17:06.15 | TC-Work | well, like the fact that i need to create a field that only uses numbers |
| 17:06.24 | TC-Work | doesnt seem to exists in htlp4 |
| 17:06.28 | TC-Work | html* |
| 17:06.39 | TC-Work | so i have to put in little java scriptlets |
| 17:06.49 | Dagmar | You mean JavaScript, right? |
| 17:06.52 | TC-Work | or use other functions |
| 17:07.01 | haste | don't say Java when you mean JavaScript |
| 17:07.18 | Dagmar | The idea of a form with abotu a dozen fields, all firing up Java... lol |
| 17:07.43 | cog|work | Ackis: is that you? |
| 17:07.45 | TC-Work | yes javascript |
| 17:07.45 | cog|work | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/791239716#2 |
| 17:07.55 | haste | I'LL VALIDATE YOUR FORM AS SOON AS MY VM CAN ALLOCATE 150M OF YOUR MEMORY. |
| 17:07.59 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 17:08.15 | haste | !reksif yeh |
| 17:08.30 | Dagmar | ware: Okay gimme a minute to look at mine, but you're going to be embarrassed I think |
| 17:09.52 | Lopeppeppy | looks like Ackis, cog|work. :) |
| 17:12.36 | Kraps | cog|work: someones brother logged into his account? |
| 17:13.03 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 17:13.16 | Fisker | looks like Blizzard is preparing a huge list of information about the upcoming changes |
| 17:13.18 | Ackis | cog|work: no :P I'm ackis |
| 17:13.23 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 17:13.26 | Ackis | I will never hide behind saying penis |
| 17:13.31 | zenzelezz | he's canadackis |
| 17:13.35 | Kraps | Fisker: where? |
| 17:14.47 | Fisker | they've replied to a couple of post saying they will have some posts up with some of the changes |
| 17:14.52 | Fisker | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27026323243/10-man-25-man-lock-out-change-in-wrath/ |
| 17:14.56 | Fisker | that's for raid lockouts |
| 17:15.00 | Fisker | they also had one about justice points |
| 17:15.12 | Fisker | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/27026323214/currency-conversion-justice-point-update there it was |
| 17:15.48 | Shirik | hey Arrowmaster |
| 17:15.51 | Fisker | hey shri |
| 17:15.57 | Fisker | your name is complicated |
| 17:15.58 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 17:17.14 | Shirik | http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Achievements.aspx?player=Foxswift |
| 17:17.17 | Shirik | Crowd control achievement ftw |
| 17:17.56 | Shirik | that was on legendary too |
| 17:18.21 | haste | ""Sign in with your Xbox LIVE enabled Windows LIVE ID to view this player's achievements." |
| 17:18.27 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:19.17 | Shirik | http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/careerstats/medals.aspx?player=Foxswift&vc=5&pf=65535 |
| 17:19.18 | Shirik | is that better? |
| 17:19.20 | Ackis | Shirik: I need to do the invasion achievement, legendary, captain and lt col. |
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| 17:19.39 | Kraps | ya Shirik |
| 17:20.08 | Fisker | what's that Shirik like some kind of facebook game? |
| 17:20.10 | Kraps | i wish halo was on the pc |
| 17:20.40 | Ackis | Kraps: halo 2 |
| 17:20.52 | Shirik | killionaire ftw |
| 17:21.59 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: crowd control is easy |
| 17:22.04 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:22.06 | TC-Work | anyone know JS? |
| 17:22.08 | Shirik | SO WHAT I'M HAPPY DON'T RUIN IT |
| 17:22.09 | Fisker | halo what Kraps ? |
| 17:22.17 | Fisker | is that like some kind of angel flash game? |
| 17:22.18 | Arrowmaster | you dont know about the 1mil points in 15 minutes trick? |
| 17:22.21 | Fisker | sounds gay |
| 17:22.29 | Shirik | the what? |
| 17:22.35 | Arrowmaster | firefight |
| 17:22.56 | Shirik | well yes |
| 17:22.59 | Kraps | Fisker: are you a homophobe? |
| 17:23.01 | Shirik | but what 1 mil points in 15 minutes trick |
| 17:23.11 | Fisker | yes Kraps |
| 17:23.15 | Kraps | k |
| 17:23.40 | Arrowmaster | you do a custom firefight game and mess with the settings including a custom skull that makes you invulnerable |
| 17:23.53 | Shirik | ... |
| 17:23.54 | Arrowmaster | and bottomless clip rocket launcher |
| 17:24.04 | Shirik | why do you get points for that |
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| 17:24.24 | Arrowmaster | because the achievement is for any firefight, not just matchmaking |
| 17:24.32 | Dagmar | No powergamers were involved in the testing cycle |
| 17:24.38 | Arrowmaster | one of them is for matchmaking though |
| 17:24.56 | Arrowmaster | ign fucking put out a video about it before reach was even released |
| 17:25.07 | Shirik | I don't go to ign |
| 17:25.15 | Arrowmaster | on the damn xbox dashboard |
| 17:25.29 | Shirik | I don't go to the xbox dashboard? >.> |
| 17:25.33 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 17:27.41 | Fisker | i'm awesome Shirik |
| 17:28.40 | Ackis | Arrowmaster, Shirik: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=262215 |
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| 17:31.04 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/GameStats.aspx?gameid=7053592&player=Arrowmaster |
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| 17:31.11 | Fisker | You should rob banks without worry until they start arresting them |
| 17:31.26 | Shirik | cheater |
| 17:31.45 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:31.54 | Fisker | who cares if you cheat in a game like farmville? |
| 17:32.19 | Shirik | nobody? |
| 17:32.45 | Fisker | you seem to care? |
| 17:33.27 | Shirik | nop |
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| 17:38.17 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:42.19 | Shirik | Fisker_Q |
| 17:43.58 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:44.03 | Fisker | why did you do that? |
| 17:45.10 | Fisker | i made a hidden expansion up your butt Shirik |
| 17:46.12 | Shirik | I have a hidden expansion detector |
| 17:46.14 | Shirik | it's ok |
| 17:46.22 | Humbedooh | ~stab Fisker |
| 17:46.22 | purl | ACTION runs at Fisker with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 17:47.58 | Fisker | well i also just told you Shirik |
| 17:48.22 | Shirik | my detector forced you to tell me |
| 17:48.29 | Fisker | nope |
| 17:48.35 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:48.38 | Shirik | but it is so good you don't know |
| 17:48.40 | Fisker | i am not a number, i am a free man |
| 17:48.43 | Shirik | it's like inception |
| 17:48.53 | nevcairiel | we're all just numbers |
| 17:49.02 | Shirik | Can I be 321? |
| 17:49.23 | nevcairiel | there is no choice involved |
| 17:49.23 | Fisker | what's an inception? |
| 17:49.30 | Shirik | ... |
| 17:49.35 | Shirik | you best be trollin |
| 17:50.46 | batrick | shirik did you like that video |
| 17:50.54 | nevcairiel | that movie needs to get out on bluray sooner |
| 17:50.57 | cog|work | Fisker: it's a movie that people talked about almost as much as lost |
| 17:51.10 | Ackis | hey has anyone had a root canal done? |
| 17:51.12 | Fisker | cool story cog|work |
| 17:51.27 | cog|work | Ackis: mrs cog has |
| 17:51.48 | Ackis | did it hurt at all the day after cog|work? |
| 17:52.22 | Fisker | rephrased: Were you sleeping on the couch? |
| 17:52.25 | cog|work | I think so, but not nearly as much as wisdom teeth... |
| 17:52.51 | cog|work | it shouldn't hurt for very long though since they should've cleaned out all the nerve endings |
| 17:52.58 | Ackis | I was out cold for my wisdom teeth, and was on narcotics for the week after |
| 17:53.05 | cog|work | *nod* |
| 17:53.09 | Ackis | I'm getting one done a week from tomorrow :( |
| 17:53.17 | cog|work | i was eating chips again after 3 days... mrs. cog was out of commission for over a week |
| 17:53.34 | cog|work | i have a big mouth though... They needed to bend her jaw to get at her wisdoms |
| 17:53.54 | KarlKFI|work | *shudder* |
| 17:54.08 | Ackis | well, I guess I'm glad I'm taking the day after off then |
| 17:54.42 | Ackis | I get it done on the 7th, have the 8th off, 9/10 is the weekend, 11th is the thanksgiving stat holiday, and then the 12th I have my edo (earned day off) |
| 17:56.17 | Ackis | yes it's thanksgiving this weekend you damn americans |
| 17:56.50 | Fisker | eats cog|work's chips |
| 17:57.11 | nevcairiel | oh no |
| 17:57.14 | nevcairiel | that means no tv series |
| 17:57.15 | Fisker | nom nom nom |
| 17:57.16 | nevcairiel | screw that |
| 17:57.22 | Fisker | oh yeah nevcairiel |
| 17:57.24 | Fisker | that sucks |
| 17:57.30 | Fisker | but then again we cna't have tv series |
| 17:57.45 | Fisker | and it's so unethical of us to pirate something we can't otherwise legally obtain |
| 17:57.48 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:59.50 | nevcairiel | man, how i hate when Blizzard forgets to fix the restricted environment after they changed yet another API =( |
| 18:00.52 | nevcairiel | and, Iriel is not around enough to poke him to get him to poke the devs! |
| 18:01.34 | Fisker | just buy a long stick |
| 18:06.10 | Shirik | I have a long stick |
| 18:06.51 | TC-Work | it needs to be removed |
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| 18:09.19 | foxlit | nevcairiel: something broke? |
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| 18:11.08 | nevcairiel | foxlit: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000&pageNo=4#76 |
| 18:11.12 | nevcairiel | and my post 2 before that ^ |
| 18:12.26 | nevcairiel | They change apis around, sadly, not all of them, leaving us in an inconsistent state |
| 18:14.30 | nevcairiel | wonder if filling a ingame report helps.. |
| 18:15.28 | nevcairiel | I'm just hoping to get this fixed before 4.0 hits live |
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| 18:27.38 | Ackis | Fisker's your face. |
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| 18:36.18 | mikma | wobin: http://www.break.com/index/worst-tatoo-customer-in-history |
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| 18:40.34 | Shirik | wow |
| 18:40.45 | Shirik | people seriously need to get headsets when they're playing halo |
| 18:40.47 | Shirik | or at least listen |
| 18:41.03 | Shirik | I just got a killing spree and I am actually depressed that I was able to get it |
| 18:42.41 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:42.50 | Torhal | Pen-fifteen, Fisker. |
| 18:43.15 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
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| 18:44.06 | Fisker | no Torhal |
| 18:44.34 | Torhal | I will unmerge you, Fisker. |
| 18:47.02 | Shirik | http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=3932991&player=Foxswift |
| 18:47.04 | Shirik | this is sad |
| 18:47.31 | batrick | shirik you are a terrible friend |
| 18:48.57 | Fisker | can i touch your boobs Shirik ? |
| 18:49.56 | Shirik | yes |
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| 18:52.43 | Ackis | wtf |
| 18:52.44 | Ackis | http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/09/29/1445224/1001-Odds-On-First-Contact-Within-a-Year?from=rss |
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| 18:52.46 | Ackis | ALIENS |
| 18:52.57 | Dagmar | Bookmakers loooove a sucker |
| 18:53.00 | Ackis | should I book a shrink now just in case? |
| 18:53.04 | Dagmar | ...and if they're wrong, w00t! |
| 18:53.17 | Dagmar | You either get money, or aliens. |
| 18:53.22 | Dagmar | win-win |
| 18:53.33 | Ackis | didn't Hawking come out and say that if there are aliens, they're bad and we should avoid them? |
| 18:53.39 | Ackis | (bad as in out of resources, etc) |
| 18:54.39 | Dagmar | Yeah smoething like that |
| 18:55.24 | TC-Work | anyone know how to escape '(' in javascript? |
| 18:55.24 | Dagmar | ...but if they just stumble across us, then might as well make the best of it |
| 18:55.46 | Ackis | don't you mean "panic"? |
| 18:55.56 | Dagmar | Panicking is for bishes. |
| 18:56.10 | Dagmar | Proper capitalists look to cut a deal |
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| 19:01.12 | Shirik | TC-Work: Why does it need to be escaped? |
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| 19:04.05 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:04.07 | Fisker | are you foxswift? |
| 19:04.28 | TC-Work | Shirik: javascript:return mask(this.value,this,'1,3,3,7','(,),-') is the snipit |
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| 19:04.41 | TC-Work | i am trying to mask '9" and it picking up the end |
| 19:04.46 | TC-Work | '('* |
| 19:05.33 | nicoli_s | fisker:yes |
| 19:06.18 | Fisker | haha wuss you play as a girl Shirik |
| 19:06.26 | Shirik | damn right!~ |
| 19:06.29 | Fisker | also lol'd @ missing the red guy |
| 19:06.32 | Shirik | fu |
| 19:06.35 | Fisker | also extra lol'd @ the red guy missing you |
| 19:06.36 | Shirik | that was bad |
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| 19:16.58 | Adys | kd3: " am going over the built in wine applications, and would like to point out for whoever is thinking of localizing "clock" that clocks in RTL speaking regions still rotate in the same direction." -wine-devel |
| 19:17.34 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 19:18.08 | kd3|netbook | lol |
| 19:18.25 | Adys | Microsoft's implementation of this idea is just as crappy as the core concept. The UI often contains images that are part of it. In order to keep the thing even slightly okay, Windows automatically mirrors every image (yes, EVERY image) displayed into a DC which has the RTL attribute set. The MSDN page discussing this has hilarious images of the Microsoft logo reversed. Their OFFICIAL recommendation is to create localized Hebrew/Arabic resources of the im |
| 19:18.25 | Adys | ages, which are mirrored at the source, so that after the UI second mirroring they turn out okay. |
| 19:18.35 | nevcairiel | so clockwise does not depend on location context? =P |
| 19:18.47 | kd3|netbook | that would confuse me to no end, seeing a counterclockwise clock |
| 19:18.49 | Adys | I am appaled |
| 19:18.54 | kd3|netbook | it's msdn |
| 19:18.56 | kd3|netbook | what do you expect? |
| 19:19.07 | Adys | sanity, but I'm a naive idiot |
| 19:19.47 | Arrowmaster | microsoft + sanity = lol |
| 19:19.50 | kd3|netbook | ^ |
| 19:19.52 | Ackis | you're just a normal idiot |
| 19:20.01 | Adys | and you're just a canadian idiot. |
| 19:20.19 | Ackis | canadian idiot > american normal |
| 19:20.50 | TC-Work | Shirik: feel like doing a small regex for me? |
| 19:21.00 | Adys | TC-Work: what do you want |
| 19:21.12 | Cide | Arrowmaster: it would have been funnier if you had done microsoft*sanity = 1 |
| 19:21.19 | TC-Work | i need this to allow nothing but numbers and hyphens ("^\\d*\\.?\\d*$") |
| 19:21.22 | Cide | not that I agree but still |
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| 19:22.25 | Adys | TC-Work: r"^[\d-]*\.?[\d-]*$" |
| 19:22.59 | TC-Work | Adys: thanks, is the 'r' needed? |
| 19:23.03 | Cide | that's python |
| 19:23.10 | Cide | ^[0-9-]*\\.?[0-9-]*$ |
| 19:23.11 | Cide | is what you want |
| 19:23.32 | Adys | r isnt just for python |
| 19:23.38 | Adys | but probably |
| 19:23.39 | TC-Work | thanks guys |
| 19:23.58 | Cide | javascript: r"\\" => SyntaxError: Unexpected string |
| 19:24.05 | Adys | r isn't just for python |
| 19:24.11 | Adys | that doesnt mean it's for every language |
| 19:24.11 | Adys | :p |
| 19:24.16 | Adys | TC-Work: what's it for? curious |
| 19:24.58 | TC-Work | an entry from for a cafee |
| 19:25.04 | TC-Work | cafe* |
| 19:25.07 | Adys | it's coffee or café |
| 19:25.26 | Adys | or macafee |
| 19:25.34 | Cide | but it's in javascript |
| 19:25.38 | Cide | which was why I chose javascript |
| 19:25.46 | Cide | and why you lose and I win |
| 19:25.48 | Cide | as is customary |
| 19:25.54 | Adys | Cide: suck my legs, and whatever's in between |
| 19:26.02 | TC-Work | form* |
| 19:26.11 | Cide | suck my form? |
| 19:26.14 | TC-Work | so, just your legs? |
| 19:26.17 | Adys | form my legs? |
| 19:26.27 | Cide | and whatever's in form? |
| 19:26.33 | Cide | mind = blown |
| 19:26.39 | Adys | same. |
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| 19:27.44 | Jamash | I'll form the legs? |
| 19:28.16 | Cide | and form's in between? |
| 19:28.45 | Adys | Jamash: If you form the legs, give me the head. |
| 19:29.39 | Jamash | changed my mind, I'll form the feet and kick you in the ass |
| 19:29.48 | Cide | a wild form appears |
| 19:30.11 | Jamash | whoever uploaded these mingw compiler packages was an idiot |
| 19:30.28 | Jamash | they contain every file two or three times each |
| 19:30.41 | Cide | well |
| 19:30.48 | Cide | one is clearly for RTL languages |
| 19:30.59 | Jamash | like fortran? |
| 19:31.09 | Cide | like hebrew |
| 19:31.21 | Jamash | the ten commandments were written in fortran |
| 19:31.26 | Cide | the third is for down-to-up languages I guess |
| 19:31.29 | Jamash | fortran is that old |
| 19:31.49 | Cide | my god. |
| 19:31.51 | Shirik | sooo |
| 19:32.00 | Shirik | there's an ISO 693-2 code for Klingon |
| 19:32.05 | Cide | rofl |
| 19:32.09 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 19:32.38 | Cide | what about na'vi? |
| 19:32.49 | Jamash | what about sindarin? |
| 19:33.01 | Shirik | no to both |
| 19:33.06 | Cide | weaksauce |
| 19:33.07 | Shirik | I don't even know what sindarin is |
| 19:33.36 | Jamash | shame on you |
| 19:34.21 | mitchnull | it's like mandarin but with more curves |
| 19:34.49 | Cide | dare I say... more PMS? |
| 19:35.01 | Jamash | do elves even get pms? |
| 19:35.22 | Cide | I'd expect so since their language is so periodic |
| 19:35.56 | cog|work | elves get pms, but it's the males... |
| 19:36.22 | Cide | elves share everything equally |
| 19:36.35 | Cide | including estrogen |
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| 19:52.15 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/picthis3.png lol stormtrooper ftw |
| 19:56.55 | Fisker | Robert Knepper Shirik |
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| 20:00.48 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:00.52 | Fisker | Robert Knepper you |
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| 20:04.03 | Alram | Robert KnepPGNGNHGHhhghg |
| 20:04.24 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: you know what na'vi is but not what sindarin is? that is really weird |
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| 20:06.18 | nevcairiel | was it mentioned in the movies? I guess once he got into the reading age, the movies had been out already :p |
| 20:06.44 | Fisker | Robert Knepper Alram |
| 20:06.55 | Fisker | btw oracle sues a lot of people |
| 20:06.59 | Alram | i know Fisker |
| 20:07.05 | Alram | when i saw him in SGU this morning |
| 20:07.07 | nevcairiel | and actually, the wikipedia page of it claims there is a 639-2 code (and 639-3) |
| 20:07.10 | Alram | i put on several ragefaces :( |
| 20:08.29 | Fisker | Why do you rageface when Robert Knepper you Alram? |
| 20:08.46 | Alram | because Robert Knepper Fisker |
| 20:09.05 | Fisker | No Robert Knepper Alram |
| 20:09.14 | Alram | exactly :( |
| 20:09.41 | Fisker | was it as good for you as it was for him? |
| 20:10.11 | Alram | no, i was severely disappointed |
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| 20:11.06 | Fisker | What about you Shirik do you like Robert Knepper you? |
| 20:14.14 | Fisker | Shirik |
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| 20:14.43 | Fisker | sylvanaar_ipad do you think Robert Knepper Shirik? |
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| 20:15.22 | sylvanaar_ipad | Fisker: I don't know |
| 20:15.37 | Fisker | i think he does |
| 20:15.43 | Fisker | and Shirik doesn't want to admit it |
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| 20:21.22 | TC-Work | *sigh* i have way to much fun programming |
| 20:21.36 | TC-Work | i think i picked the wrong field |
| 20:21.53 | Fisker | Well Robert Knepper you, TC-Work |
| 20:22.21 | TC-Work | Fisker: i'm sure that works better when the person you are speaking to knows what the hell you are talking about |
| 20:22.34 | Fisker | It's flavour of the month trolling |
| 20:24.27 | Fisker | translate.google.com/#da|en|knepper <-when you see it, you won't shit bricks |
| 20:24.38 | foxlit | In unrelated links, http://xkcd.com/618/ |
| 20:24.42 | Fisker | http://translate.google.com/#da|en|knepper |
| 20:24.47 | Fisker | foxlit totally gets it |
| 20:25.03 | foxlit | brb suggesting a better translation? |
| 20:25.14 | Fisker | if only Robert Knepper were danish |
| 20:27.24 | TC-Work | Fisker: do 'translate.google.com/#da|en||knepper' |
| 20:27.42 | TC-Work | i wonder why it changes |
| 20:28.18 | Fisker | ? |
| 20:28.29 | TC-Work | it goes from fuck to fucks |
| 20:28.45 | TC-Work | by adding the | |
| 20:28.47 | TC-Work | pipe |
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| 20:29.03 | Fisker | idk |
| 20:29.21 | Fisker | i know require sleep |
| 20:29.22 | Fisker | bai |
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| 20:29.29 | TC-Work | night Fisker |
| 20:29.34 | TC-Work | it's all Kraps fault |
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| 20:38.04 | foxlit | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/9/24/ |
| 20:38.07 | foxlit | the cat is awesome |
| 20:43.00 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/09/29/cho.png |
| 20:43.00 | Adys | Cho Smiling |
| 20:43.02 | Adys | something you dont see every day |
| 20:46.41 | Cide | EE HAN TIMING |
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| 20:52.22 | TC-Work | enough with the crack Cide |
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| 21:01.22 | foxlit | "The google maps team can no longer help you, but if you master the wolf, he will guide you. Godspeed." |
| 21:04.03 | amro | Cide: monday funday, up for it? |
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| 21:10.56 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/09/29/funny-pictures-lizard-of-humiliation/ |
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| 21:11.50 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if my mailbox got full or if i really do have exactly 5200 emails to download from this server |
| 21:12.00 | Arrowmaster | (old address i dont check often) |
| 21:13.54 | zenzelezz | roughly 1/100 chance, not too unlikely |
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| 21:21.04 | taroven | Anyone happen to have UI sources for build 12984+? |
| 21:22.20 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: how did you calculate that? |
| 21:22.28 | Arrowmaster | uggg painful reminder of how slow 100mbit is |
| 21:22.42 | zenzelezz | TC-Work: my super-awesome math skills |
| 21:23.00 | Arrowmaster | transferring files between computers at 10MB/s |
| 21:23.01 | foxlit | taroven: http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/build/ , replace build with something |
| 21:23.09 | foxlit | You may also like http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/cata |
| 21:23.12 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: you mean you "i pulled it out of my ass" skills? |
| 21:23.23 | taroven | foxlit: Perfect, thanks. |
| 21:23.28 | TC-Work | your* |
| 21:23.31 | zenzelezz | TC-Work: nope. Every 100 numbers you're at something that's divisible by 100 |
| 21:23.49 | TC-Work | zenzelezz: but the ods change based on the size of the mailbox |
| 21:24.07 | foxlit | zenzelezz: maybe the sequence is 2n+1? |
| 21:24.26 | TC-Work | odds* |
| 21:24.26 | zenzelezz | I'm a simple person, I stick to my %100 == 0 |
| 21:24.42 | jnwhiteh | minecraft needs more tooltips. |
| 21:24.52 | TC-Work | and by more you mean nay> |
| 21:24.55 | TC-Work | any* |
| 21:24.59 | TC-Work | i cant type today |
| 21:25.20 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 21:25.42 | TC-Work | and by today i mean anytime |
| 21:26.06 | Arrowmaster | now i remember why i hate this email address, im about 3000 into downloading them and so far 500 of them have gotten past the spam assassin config |
| 21:26.21 | Arrowmaster | which i have no control over |
| 21:27.07 | Arrowmaster | once its done though the client will probably weed out some more with its filters |
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| 21:46.28 | kd3|netbook | Cairenn, ping |
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| 21:49.22 | foxlit | gaah. |
| 21:49.53 | foxlit | I'm sure there's some way to set up a username+tag@domain email forwarding here, but I can't find anything that might've given me that idea |
| 21:50.12 | foxlit | That, and all three "checkout those qmail docs" links from the people maintaining the mail servers are dead. |
| 21:53.17 | TC-Work | google? |
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| 21:57.43 | Zhinjio | foxlit: I use qmail. And I missed your question. What is it you need to do? |
| 21:57.53 | foxlit | yes.They sneaked in while I wasn't looking. |
| 21:58.00 | foxlit | It's ~/.qmail-alias |
| 21:58.09 | foxlit | which allows you to use user-alias@domain |
| 21:58.24 | Zhinjio | ah |
| 21:58.25 | Zhinjio | nods |
| 22:02.53 | Arrowmaster | i thought qmail was dead |
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| 22:05.04 | TC-Work | Arrowmaster: define 'dead'? less than 1,000 people using it? |
| 22:06.11 | Arrowmaster | i thought qmail was the one that didnt have an opensource license and the developer stopped updating it |
| 22:07.05 | Gnarfoz | qmail is probably still the safest one of them all |
| 22:07.14 | nebula169 | good ol qmail |
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| 22:19.23 | durcyn | s/good/bad |
| 22:19.39 | A-KO | wow |
| 22:19.41 | A-KO | just wow |
| 22:19.49 | A-KO | ally loses hillsbrad completely |
| 22:19.50 | A-KO | lol |
| 22:19.58 | A-KO | WE EVEN TOOK OVER THE FARMS! |
| 22:20.34 | zenzelezz | you know |
| 22:20.49 | zenzelezz | I've been playing WoW since 2005, and I've yet to meet this Ally girl everyone's talking about |
| 22:21.03 | zenzelezz | nor do I see why everyone pits her against the horde, when the alliance have their own armies |
| 22:23.52 | durcyn | surely by now you've recognized the propensity of the huddles masses to assign obonxiously cute monosyllablic names to all and sundry |
| 22:23.56 | durcyn | huddled* |
| 22:24.48 | zenzelezz | I've recognised it, yes, but half the time I have an aversion to them. Not sure why |
| 22:26.06 | foxlit | A-KO: yes, alliance is militarily pitiful |
| 22:26.10 | foxlit | I think we won some land in WPL? |
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| 22:27.40 | zenzelezz | the alliance armies (specifically the human army) would be better if Varian wasn't so busy erecting statues of himself |
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| 22:30.19 | TC-Work | outlook keeps making the file headers harder and harder to find |
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| 23:26.53 | Sixen | Holy shit. This guy made a 16-bit ALU on MineCraft... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGkkyKZVzug |
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| 23:27.57 | A-KO | yes |
| 23:27.59 | A-KO | old :P |
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| 23:29.31 | Sixen | well QQ |
| 23:34.58 | Duman | yo sixen |
| 23:36.38 | Sixen | what's up duman |
| 23:36.50 | Sixen | long time no see ;) |
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