| 00:01.31 | Amarande | Dagmar: I was mostly thinking because it gives ArPen currently, and ArPen is going to be gone |
| 00:01.39 | Amarande | is it going to actually be a crit proc? that seems almost TOO strong |
| 00:01.45 | Amarande | especially for a BC chant |
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| 00:05.54 | Dagmar | Amarande: Dude, again with the histrionics. How could it be automatically overpowered if it were converted to crit, unless you are just assuming an unrealistically high amount of crit. |
| 00:06.32 | Dagmar | Would it be OP if it were converted to give merely +3 to crit? How about half a percent outright? |
| 00:07.02 | Dagmar | Numbers and dwarves: Two things pretty much destined for juggling |
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| 00:08.30 | foxlit | http://playground.last.fm/unwanted |
| 00:08.38 | foxlit | I find that top (bottom?) 10 funny |
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| 00:08.44 | Shadowed | Sixen, suckup :P |
| 00:08.49 | Sixen | <3 |
| 00:09.08 | Shadowed | but grats |
| 00:09.15 | foxlit | clearly nobody wants to admit to listening to Lady Gaga. |
| 00:09.19 | TC-Away | s/dwarves/gnomes/ |
| 00:09.23 | TC-Away | i do |
| 00:09.29 | Thunder_Child | i like her stuff |
| 00:09.38 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: see link :) |
| 00:09.45 | Dagmar | Homophobic frat boys will never admit to being closet |
| 00:09.49 | Thunder_Child | i also like ki$ha |
| 00:09.56 | Thunder_Child | ke$ha* |
| 00:10.14 | Thunder_Child | granted, i dont even know what a scrobble is |
| 00:10.43 | Dagmar | It's your computer, doing the work of the RIAA and Basement Cat by publishing what you listen to |
| 00:10.47 | foxlit | st£fan > ke$ha |
| 00:11.11 | Dagmar | Revolting Cocks > All those pansies |
| 00:12.33 | foxlit | Totally not googling that. |
| 00:13.31 | Dagmar | Actually it's a fairly safe search. They're sort of an industrial/punk band |
| 00:13.43 | Thunder_Child | good reason not to google them then |
| 00:14.06 | Dagmar | Someone at last should really dig into those numbers further |
| 00:14.25 | Dagmar | Betcha a pile that we're seeing a crapload of fratboys who secretly loooove the hell out of Lady Gaga |
| 00:14.46 | Torhal | Revolting Cocks is a safer name than Butthole Surfers. |
| 00:15.03 | Dagmar | Torhal: Best part is it's practically the same people |
| 00:15.12 | Torhal | Yah, save for Al |
| 00:15.29 | Dagmar | You don't really want Al around _all_ the time anyway |
| 00:15.38 | Torhal | Haha |
| 00:17.30 | Dagmar | ...and for those in the peanut gallery, the offensive band names don't stop there! |
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| 00:17.35 | Dagmar | Once again, mostly those SAME people also did http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rembrandt_Pussyhorse |
| 00:17.53 | Torhal | Don't forget Fudge Tunnel. |
| 00:17.53 | Dagmar | ...which is basically what happened when they were introduced to LSD. (Not an exaggeration) |
| 00:17.58 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 00:18.21 | Dagmar | Wikipedia is highly unlikely to mention LSD |
| 00:18.22 | foxlit | This conversation can only lead to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxdfY_5gEpE |
| 00:19.35 | foxlit | [who produces those things, anyway? Don't they have a proper job to do?] |
| 00:19.55 | Dagmar | I still think it's lame that when they signed with a bigger label and said label got around to trying to monetize all their previous releases, they re-pubbed the album with their name on it (which was not how it was originally pressed) |
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| 00:28.48 | Dagmar | http://www.google.com/search?q=beers%2C+steers+and+queers <-- full of yay |
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| 00:33.46 | Thunder_Child | also full of meat.... |
| 00:34.15 | Dagmar | It's a mighty good fo-od. |
| 00:34.34 | Amarande | yay, got my ruby drake riding credit |
| 00:34.42 | Amarande | also: strangeness |
| 00:34.46 | Amarande | I did not get a Cache of the Ley-Guardian this run |
| 00:34.49 | Amarande | it didn't give me one |
| 00:34.51 | Amarande | odd. |
| 00:34.58 | Dagmar | It'll arrive in yer mailbox |
| 00:35.41 | Thunder_Child | i hope it makes my flag go up |
| 00:36.04 | Dagmar | *snicker* |
| 00:36.25 | Amarande | so now I just need to do an emerald ride (preferably during an amber void run) |
| 00:36.30 | Amarande | and then an emerald void |
| 00:36.44 | Amarande | (and an amber void, but I can get that along with finishing EDR, now) |
| 00:37.43 | Dagmar | We got emerald void a few days ago because the healer was on their alt and had only done DPS before |
| 00:37.55 | Dagmar | He didn't say anything, and we didn't notice we didn't have a green drak |
| 00:38.50 | Amarande | you only really *need* a green drake for amber void no? :) |
| 00:39.07 | Amarande | although I did hear someone in trade claim to have done it with 5 ruby ... at launch no less |
| 00:40.10 | Amarande | I can imagine it NOW with 5 ruby |
| 00:40.16 | Amarande | mostly due to high GS players with 140k HP drakes |
| 00:40.26 | Amarande | but at launch? wtf. |
| 00:40.47 | Amarande | also: oddsauce: the "official" tank actually had less HP than anyone else in his drake |
| 00:41.11 | Amarande | I think he kinda got the impression his wasn't the best tank after he dropped to about half HP like a stone |
| 00:41.19 | Amarande | since I think I ended up tanking most of it :) |
| 00:41.41 | Dagmar | They were very likely powergamers who actually study mechanics... and they probably spent time doing it in beta to make sure they could show off |
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| 00:42.18 | foxlit | It's Ruby Void that is the most painful of the three |
| 00:42.44 | Amarande | foxlit: five ambers is actually pretty easy if people aren't fail with their time stops |
| 00:42.45 | Dagmar | Agreed. |
| 00:43.01 | foxlit | Emerald is easy as the drakes scale, and it's not like you needed bronzes for anything |
| 00:43.58 | Amarande | Yeah, like I said, nowadays 5 ruby might actually not be all that hard |
| 00:44.11 | Amarande | you don't take all that much damage if you evasive properly and pay attention |
| 00:44.15 | Adys | Dagmar |
| 00:44.23 | Amarande | and with ICC gear you've got like 140K HP on your drake |
| 00:44.26 | Adys | I need a torrent (any torrent) with an https tracker |
| 00:44.27 | Dagmar | Adys: ? |
| 00:44.33 | Adys | any idea where I can find that? |
| 00:44.37 | Adys | it's to test something in wine |
| 00:44.52 | Dagmar | No idea other than maybe pirate bay. I don't look very closely at what the source of the tracker is |
| 00:45.11 | Adys | tpb trackers are http im pretty sure |
| 00:45.22 | foxlit | Why don't you just produce a .torrent and point it at your own https-using server? |
| 00:45.36 | Dagmar | So grab a few torrents from them, and then look at the list of other torrent servers each torrent carries |
| 00:45.39 | Adys | because I don't have my own https-using server, any other question? :p |
| 00:46.21 | Napoleone | !api convert2rgb |
| 00:46.21 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'convert2rgb'. |
| 00:46.25 | Napoleone | !api converttorgb |
| 00:46.25 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'converttorgb'. |
| 00:46.45 | Adys | Napoleone: what are you actually looking for? |
| 00:46.48 | Dagmar | Do a fancy google search that requires https:// and inurl:.torrent (or something like that) |
| 00:46.54 | Napoleone | hexx color to rgb |
| 00:47.21 | Dagmar | whaaa? |
| 00:47.35 | Dagmar | #FF0000 <-- very red |
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| 00:47.41 | Napoleone | aaaaff -> r,g,b |
| 00:47.48 | foxlit | #GG0000 <-- even redder |
| 00:47.59 | Napoleone | foxlit haha |
| 00:48.18 | Dagmar | Napoleon: Dude. Open up Windows Calc. Put it in programmer mode. |
| 00:48.21 | Adys | foxlit: actually wouldn't that be "very red with a hint of blue"? |
| 00:48.42 | Dagmar | Just push ALT+3 and it will do base-16 conversions for you all day long |
| 00:51.16 | Dagmar | Napoleone: Everything you need to roll your own for that is on http://www.indigorose.com/forums/threads/10192-Convert-Hexadecimal-to-Decimal |
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| 00:54.56 | Humbedooh | http://paste.wowace.com/2491/ if you wanna be real fancy and rebase it |
| 00:55.20 | Torhal | Napoleone: Or if you want to have it as an in-game thinger: local function RGBtoHEX(r, g, b) return string.format("%02x%02x%02x", r * 255, g * 255, b * 255) end |
| 00:55.25 | foxlit | Humbedooh: that's not fancy. |
| 00:55.35 | foxlit | Fancy would be if you supported arbitrary bases :) |
| 00:55.36 | Humbedooh | :( |
| 00:55.41 | Humbedooh | it does! |
| 00:55.42 | Dagmar | hex to decimal conversion is just stupid simple |
| 00:55.44 | Humbedooh | ..ish |
| 00:55.50 | foxlit | And arbitrarily long numbers |
| 00:55.51 | foxlit | :) |
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| 00:56.04 | Napoleone | Dagmar my head when I'm tired can barely put 7 and 5 together ;P |
| 00:56.04 | Humbedooh | supports well...base 1 through 62 or something |
| 00:56.07 | Dagmar | foxlit: You might even have to use tonumber()! |
| 00:56.21 | foxlit | :gsub to hell. |
| 00:56.34 | Napoleone | saved info and heading to the sack.. thanks for all for 2day ;P sleep tight when the chance erups |
| 00:57.47 | foxlit | lua> tonumber("ffffffff0", 16); |
| 00:57.47 | lua_bot | foxlit: 4294967295 |
| 00:57.53 | Torhal | twitches spasmodically. |
| 00:58.27 | foxlit | tonumber("ffffffff000", 16); |
| 00:58.30 | foxlit | lua> tonumber("ffffffff000", 16); |
| 00:58.31 | lua_bot | foxlit: 4294967295 |
| 00:58.36 | foxlit | heeeeey. |
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| 00:59.16 | Dagmar | Ahem |
| 00:59.27 | Dagmar | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=4%2C294%2C967%2C295 |
| 00:59.47 | Dagmar | lua> tonumber("fffffffffdeadbeeffff000", 16); |
| 00:59.47 | lua_bot | Dagmar: 4294967295 |
| 01:00.26 | foxlit | uint32 or else, clearly. |
| 01:00.36 | Dagmar | Pretty much |
| 01:00.42 | Humbedooh | so you want something a'la libgmp for Lua? :\ |
| 01:00.46 | foxlit | I wonder. |
| 01:01.32 | foxlit | lua64 -e 'print(tonumber("ffffffff0",16));' |
| 01:01.33 | foxlit | 68719476720 |
| 01:01.40 | Dagmar | Humbedooh: EVerthing _needs_ 168-bit precision! |
| 01:01.49 | Dagmar | *Especially* font colors |
| 01:03.40 | foxlit | Haven't yet bought a single 0.69$ song :( |
| 01:03.45 | foxlit | they must be a myth |
| 01:03.58 | Dagmar | I've yet to see one selling for that little |
| 01:04.03 | Humbedooh | yes! |
| 01:04.27 | Dagmar | foxlit: That industry needs to FAIL or get the damn clue |
| 01:05.00 | Dagmar | I'm still asonished that Re:Sound even has the balls to ask for 45% of the gross _or more_ |
| 01:05.02 | foxlit | [nevermind that the /default/ price around here is 1.44$] |
| 01:05.35 | Dagmar | That's just completely insane to ask for almost half the gross income of any buisness you aren't _trying_ to kill. |
| 01:06.58 | Amarande | Dagmar: or just plain even want to do business with. :P |
| 01:07.09 | Dagmar | foxlit: Only the fact that I've been anti-piracy for about forever is keeping me from saying "Okay, screw it. They're not interested in being reasonable. Pirate the shit out of everything:" |
| 01:07.26 | Amarande | That's like "Hello shoppers, today we have fresh whole watermelon on sale, only $99.99, limit one, with card!" |
| 01:07.40 | Amarande | Anyone who tried that would find themselves without shoppers more quickly than that one Oculus group emptied out. |
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| 01:08.44 | Dagmar | Amarande: More like stopping them at the door, asking what their pre-tax income is, and then demanding half of it |
| 01:09.37 | Amarande | Dagmar: Yeah, that would cause business to empty out faster than an Oculus group, too |
| 01:09.55 | Amarande | also speaking of groups that abandon fast, what's with the hate for Ahn'kahet? |
| 01:10.14 | Dagmar | I *do* take a moment out of my day every so often to completely bawl out a music exec or two |
| 01:10.20 | Mikk | because it's hard to interrupt spellflingers |
| 01:10.24 | Amarande | besides the fact that Ahn'kahar Spell Flingers hit harder than ANY non-raid, non-boss mob ought to even have a right to :P |
| 01:10.26 | Mikk | and hard to not get double pulls |
| 01:10.30 | foxlit | Mikk: very! |
| 01:10.37 | Dagmar | Something to do with working two blocks from Music Row and being a _way_ better tipper at the coffee house |
| 01:10.42 | foxlit | The DPS actually has to be awake. Imagine that. |
| 01:10.46 | Mikk | mmmmhm |
| 01:10.51 | Mikk | <- liked scholo back in the day |
| 01:10.54 | Amarande | foxlit: not all DPS have ready access to interrupts, though |
| 01:11.02 | Dagmar | Yes they do |
| 01:11.02 | foxlit | And then the healers are like "You're taking giant damage spikes!" |
| 01:11.08 | Amarande | also, is "Shadow Sickle" the one that hits for stupidly ridiculous amounts of damage? |
| 01:11.15 | Mikk | yeah that's the channeled aoe |
| 01:11.15 | foxlit | "(and my awesome heals can't top you off... wait, what?!)" |
| 01:11.38 | Mikk | so tell me a dps class that can't interrupt those guys |
| 01:11.59 | Dagmar | Seriously, my GL just LOS pulls them and we murdicate as necessary |
| 01:12.15 | foxlit | [The spellfinger thing is actually single-target, but meh.] |
| 01:12.23 | Mikk | the shadowbolt is single target |
| 01:12.28 | Mikk | sickle has aoe or splash damage |
| 01:13.04 | Mikk | but meh when i'm tanking i just spellreflect it to death |
| 01:13.06 | Mikk | shrug |
| 01:13.06 | foxlit | But that isn't interesting -- minor damage. |
| 01:13.37 | Dagmar | Geez I hate spell reflection |
| 01:13.52 | Dagmar | I had a soul fire get tossed back at me a few days ago |
| 01:14.07 | Dagmar | my people thought it was hilarious |
| 01:14.16 | Dagmar | I had FOUR hit points left. |
| 01:14.38 | Dagmar | They got their "even" for all those times I laughed about spell reflects while I was on the hunter |
| 01:17.31 | Amarande | Dagmar: lemme guess, one of those stupid skeleton guys in H-FoS that do the reflect shield thing every now and then? |
| 01:27.11 | Dagmar | Amarande: See, part of the problem is that generally I am just barely paying attention to what I'm shooting at because it's tiny |
| 01:27.23 | Dagmar | Camera zoomed out so far I can't even make out the names over their heads |
| 01:28.07 | Dagmar | If it were entirely that bad of a thing, _they wouldn't be doing photo shoots_ |
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| 02:58.11 | Amarande | wtf? |
| 02:58.20 | Amarande | my realm DOESN'T GO DOWN FOR MAINT this week? :) |
| 02:58.21 | Amarande | squee. |
| 02:59.00 | Amarande | looks like only Emberstorm and maybe one other BG get maint this week |
| 02:59.05 | Amarande | the rest are just on rolling restart |
| 02:59.07 | Jamash | interesting |
| 02:59.31 | Amarande | wonder if this also means a definite no for 4.0 this Tuesday |
| 03:00.15 | Dagmar | How much more definite does it need to be? |
| 03:00.23 | Xinhuan | lol wut? |
| 03:00.26 | Dagmar | They're not patching all that with a rolling restart |
| 03:00.27 | Amarande | Dagmar: a lot of people thought 4.0 was going to be out Tuesday |
| 03:00.27 | Xinhuan | you expected 4.0 this week? |
| 03:00.47 | Amarande | well, actually, I guess it will be out Tuesday, but apparently not THIS Tuesday. |
| 03:01.26 | Amarande | Xinhuan: people are expecting Cata on November 2, and figured that 4.0 this week would have been about right based on the usual timetables of expansion pre-patches |
| 03:01.54 | Xinhuan | if cata is nov 2, it would have been announced last month |
| 03:01.59 | Xinhuan | does that make sense to you? |
| 03:02.13 | Amarande | Xin: I'm out of touch with game industry logistics :P |
| 03:02.13 | Dagmar | I didn't notice it being announced anywhere |
| 03:02.26 | Humbedooh | november 2nd? o.O |
| 03:02.34 | Humbedooh | well good luck blizz :3 |
| 03:02.34 | Dagmar | I do somewhat expect we'll see about 60 days' notice |
| 03:02.34 | Amarande | I guess that means we won't have to decide between giving our time to Cata and the new Wheel of Time book on the same day then. :) |
| 03:02.50 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 03:02.56 | Amarande | Dagmar: in that case, we probably have another month until 4.0, at least :) |
| 03:02.59 | Amarande | yays. |
| 03:03.00 | Dagmar | Not sure anyone can even press discs and get them in boxes inside of 45 days |
| 03:03.13 | Xinhuan | i expect at least 2 months |
| 03:03.31 | Amarande | I'm basically thinking of when to expect 4.0 based on the fact that it's usually been 3-4 weeks between xpack pre-patch and actual xpack |
| 03:03.36 | Dagmar | I've held off putting in my vacation requests because I'm pretty sure it's not going to be Nov 2. |
| 03:04.09 | Xinhuan | so book 13 is nov 2? |
| 03:04.15 | Xinhuan | thats awesome |
| 03:04.17 | Amarande | Xinhuan: Yup. THAT release date is definite. |
| 03:04.23 | Iriel | Nov 2nd seems awfully close to Blizzcon |
| 03:04.31 | Dagmar | Maybe the end of November tho |
| 03:04.39 | Amarande | Xinhuan: Probably not so good a release date actually :| |
| 03:04.40 | Xinhuan | i actually expect cata launch to be announced during blizzcon |
| 03:04.54 | Amarande | It just occurs to me that most WoT fans tend to be highly intelligent folk of the sort more likely than most to vote |
| 03:04.58 | Amarande | and isn't Nov 2 Election Day? :| |
| 03:05.01 | Xinhuan | althugh, sc2 launch was announced without much fanfare |
| 03:05.31 | Dagmar | I'm sorry, did it _need_ more fanfare? |
| 03:05.39 | Amarande | Gotta make sure I get to the polls that day, I have got to put in my vote against Richard Blumenidiot |
| 03:05.48 | Dagmar | I thought literally everyone was already just about frothy for it |
| 03:05.54 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, november 2nd is election day in the us. |
| 03:07.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, you're vastly overgeneralizing the intelligence of fans of anything. |
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| 03:15.07 | Iriel | Anyone tried Civ V multiplayer yet? I saw some comments today saying it's horribly broken, but I tend to view such reports with a grain of salt without independent verification |
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| 03:15.58 | Thunder_Child | not yet |
| 03:16.08 | Thunder_Child | though i have found at least one bug in the SP |
| 03:16.23 | Iriel | I've run into glitchiness, but few actual bugs yet. |
| 03:17.33 | A-KO | http://au.video.yahoo.com/watch/4234170/11373709 |
| 03:18.27 | Dagmar | lol http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/minecraft.net |
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| 03:18.49 | Dagmar | Now the question is, what managed to kill Amazon S3? I thought he rather hastily moved into their space? |
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| 03:22.18 | Iriel | His site's all manner of dodgy |
| 03:22.25 | Iriel | That part's still a single point of failure |
| 03:22.39 | Dagmar | Do you see his blog? He probably needs to move that site the hell off the _one_ server |
| 03:22.42 | Dagmar | Get this bit... |
| 03:22.42 | Iriel | Even though the content is on S3, initial bootstrap and authentication goes through minecraft.net |
| 03:22.51 | Dagmar | "By .a few., I mean 0.27%. Doesn.t sound too bad, does it? Well, that was 140 accounts!" |
| 03:23.04 | Iriel | Praise be to penny arcade. |
| 03:23.13 | Dagmar | Am I doing my math wrong or does that mean he made another gigantic fucking pile of money this weekend as well? |
| 03:23.17 | Iriel | I was one of the other N thousand |
| 03:23.33 | Iriel | I'm sure he did ok, but he's got to fund infrastructure costs now |
| 03:23.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: he probably did. |
| 03:23.36 | Iriel | so I doubt it's all profit |
| 03:23.43 | Iriel | It's just capital |
| 03:23.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 03:23.58 | Dagmar | Yeah after messing with it on the freeplay "oops" weekend, I couldn't give him my twelve bucks fast enough |
| 03:24.16 | NightHawkTheSane | I ought to check it out at some point, i guess. |
| 03:24.24 | Iriel | It's neat if you're a "builder" |
| 03:24.31 | Thunder_Child | pass, i have enough games i dont play as it is |
| 03:24.32 | Iriel | Sadly the current version loses items placed in chests |
| 03:24.35 | Dagmar | Iriel: You could fit the sum total of his game clients and servers on two floppy disks |
| 03:24.36 | Iriel | so I wouldn't play with it right now. |
| 03:24.47 | Dagmar | iriel: Wasn't messing up like that on me last night |
| 03:24.58 | Iriel | It was me, I lost all my coal and sand |
| 03:24.58 | Iriel | 8-( |
| 03:25.08 | Dagmar | Two floppies' worth of content on a CDN is _cheap_ |
| 03:25.16 | Iriel | And i'm not near a beach |
| 03:25.19 | Dagmar | Ouch |
| 03:25.26 | Dagmar | I'd be more upset about the coal |
| 03:25.31 | Iriel | I'm near coal |
| 03:25.34 | Iriel | so that's not so bad |
| 03:25.38 | Iriel | zombies notwithstanding |
| 03:25.39 | Dagmar | Yeah but are you near OMGLOTS of coal? |
| 03:25.51 | Iriel | Based on current excursions, "enough" |
| 03:26.13 | Dagmar | I was on a few SMP servers the other night frantically digging a hole to hide in before anyone told me that zombies basically just don't bother on MP servers |
| 03:26.41 | Dagmar | I was a little miffed about "where's all the goddamn jewels I was promised" until I really started digging _deep_ |
| 03:26.54 | Iriel | They default to off on the MP servers, but you can turn it on. |
| 03:26.58 | Dagmar | Looks like the key is "go until you hit bedrock" and then lol |
| 03:27.27 | Iriel | I've been enjoying building stairwells up the inside of crazy rock formations, and then making observation galleries half way up. |
| 03:27.39 | Iriel | Underwater bases with glass ceilings and a bunch of torches are fun too |
| 03:27.44 | Dagmar | A friend of mine and his kids had been playing with a private server for a couple weeks now |
| 03:28.21 | Dagmar | I work on different sorts of things, so they got a big laugh out of finding a new wheat farm and a giant redwood forest had sprung up on them |
| 03:28.21 | Xinhuan | there's some utilities u can get that show you the locations |
| 03:28.24 | Xinhuan | of all the rare stuff in you rmap |
| 03:28.28 | Dagmar | I was like "I needed sticks and cookies" |
| 03:28.32 | Xinhuan | and even if you use the "maphack" |
| 03:28.40 | Xinhuan | its actually still damn difficult to find them |
| 03:28.48 | Iriel | Xinhuan: that would take the fun out of it |
| 03:28.52 | Dagmar | Nah, once you hit bedrock it's just a matter of ranging about |
| 03:29.03 | Iriel | sadly the world I finally figured out what I was doing in is snow covered and freezing |
| 03:29.08 | Iriel | it's a bit less fun than the normal worlds |
| 03:29.12 | Xinhuan | it does show you how rare those stuff are though |
| 03:29.17 | Dagmar | Good stuff is super-rare on the surface, but all the way down there redstone is about as common as coal is on the surface |
| 03:29.18 | Iriel | (Unless weather is regional and I just haven't gone far enough) |
| 03:29.45 | Dagmar | You will quickly have so much loot you'll break a sweat at the idea of getting it all back to the surface the first time |
| 03:29.59 | Xinhuan | that's why you need a rubbish chute in yourhouse hehe |
| 03:30.12 | Xinhuan | just a pit of lava to throw stuff in |
| 03:30.13 | Dagmar | . o O ( Jesus all I need is one damn stalker to wreck my plans now! ) |
| 03:30.37 | Dagmar | Iriel: The first three worlds I rolled up were all snow. |
| 03:30.46 | Dagmar | I made a greenhouse. |
| 03:31.08 | Dagmar | I wasn't walking away from the giant cave formation I'd turned into a fortress. |
| 03:31.21 | Dagmar | I think it was Xinhuan who told me I needed to put up about 40-50 torches. ;) |
| 03:31.38 | Dagmar | Until then it was OMG ZOMBIES IN MAH BASE over and over |
| 03:31.39 | Xinhuan | carry 100+ with you dig deep lol |
| 03:31.47 | Xinhuan | when you dig deep |
| 03:31.48 | Xinhuan | i mean |
| 03:31.51 | Iriel | I find doors work fairly well |
| 03:31.55 | Dagmar | Yeah man, I hit a big cavern and just start freakin out |
| 03:31.56 | Iriel | (But they're broken on MP, somewhat) |
| 03:32.09 | Xinhuan | one trick you can do is when you dig down, and sort of try to do a stairwell |
| 03:32.09 | Dagmar | Iriel: All they do is keep 'em out |
| 03:32.24 | Dagmar | WHen your base is about um... 200 cubes on a side? It's kinda hard to light all that up |
| 03:32.26 | Xinhuan | keep one squre in the middle of it empty in such a way (or use glass) |
| 03:32.36 | Xinhuan | in such a way that you can see the sky even if you are 200 squares deep |
| 03:32.44 | Xinhuan | that way u can always tell if its day or night |
| 03:32.51 | Dagmar | I just pop a torch on the wall every seven bricks or so |
| 03:32.53 | Xinhuan | as the lighting calculations is such that |
| 03:33.00 | Xinhuan | it will still shine thru 200 deep |
| 03:33.06 | Xinhuan | if there's direct los |
| 03:33.08 | Iriel | Yeah, i do the same put torches at regular intervals |
| 03:33.09 | Xinhuan | to the floor |
| 03:33.12 | Dagmar | I could care less if it's day or night because I've secured the entrance, and as long as I don't hit a cavern nothing's spawning behind me |
| 03:33.24 | Iriel | Outside I make little towers by my subterranean access points and put a torch on each side |
| 03:33.27 | Xinhuan | oh its useful |
| 03:33.32 | Iriel | it looks neat from my mountaintop observation dome |
| 03:33.42 | Xinhuan | cos you would only want to terraform outdoors during daytime |
| 03:33.48 | Xinhuan | so do your deep exploration at night |
| 03:33.48 | Dagmar | So... half brick steps to do a 30 degree slope for awhile, and then step bricks to do 45, just because you don't have to jump to go up and down |
| 03:34.25 | Iriel | I've been mostly doing propert steps |
| 03:34.26 | Dagmar | My friends were wondering what the purpose of my signal towers was... I'm like "Torch faces my house, dude" |
| 03:34.31 | Iriel | the half bricks are too annoying |
| 03:34.38 | Xinhuan | too much time to make |
| 03:34.40 | Xinhuan | agree |
| 03:35.14 | Iriel | And it's easy enough to make little craftingchambers underground when I run out |
| 03:35.14 | Dagmar | Yeah but cutting the shallower slope means you accumulate a lot more cobblestone, which... if you hit a cavern system, unless there is NO avarice in your heart YOU WILL NEED MANY OF |
| 03:35.20 | Xinhuan | i recommend using lava flows as part of your beacons |
| 03:35.27 | Iriel | I've yet to find lava |
| 03:35.29 | Xinhuan | because they are SOOOOO visible at night from miles away |
| 03:35.33 | Iriel | Maybe i' nm not going deep enough |
| 03:35.37 | Xinhuan | just dig deep enough until you find bedrock |
| 03:35.42 | Xinhuan | there's lava usually as well |
| 03:35.45 | Dagmar | Iriel: When you hit bedrock, predictably there will be lava nearby |
| 03:35.51 | Dagmar | ...and often water. |
| 03:35.58 | Xinhuan | lava flows similar to water |
| 03:35.59 | Dagmar | Good for making obsidian |
| 03:36.11 | Xinhuan | but if you have a pit-like hole, lava flowing into it will just end there |
| 03:36.17 | Dagmar | Why would you want obsidian? Because it's damn near impossible to pick through |
| 03:36.30 | Xinhuan | you can make a obsidian pick i think |
| 03:36.41 | Dagmar | I've not tried yet |
| 03:36.44 | Xinhuan | or is it diamond pick |
| 03:36.48 | Xinhuan | it digs thru ground like 5x faster than usual |
| 03:37.00 | Dagmar | Without a diamond pick (still working on it) you're going to be chipping away on one block for a good fifteen minutes |
| 03:37.14 | Xinhuan | diamond is super rare |
| 03:37.24 | Xinhuan | like 4 per large map area? |
| 03:37.28 | Dagmar | I've just about gotten the hang of using water and lava to build with obsidian tho |
| 03:37.31 | Xinhuan | use the map utility to find lol |
| 03:37.53 | Dagmar | Nah gotta be more than that. I saw two diamond spawns last night in the one medium-sized cavern I hit |
| 03:38.05 | Xinhuan | its definitel rarer than that |
| 03:38.25 | Dagmar | I'm guessing by everything else he's done it's probably half as common as redstone |
| 03:38.29 | Shirik | ok I have found a new reason to hate google's new search format |
| 03:38.34 | Dagmar | Still reading through the decompile |
| 03:38.36 | Shirik | it renders the "back" button ineffective |
| 03:38.50 | Xinhuan | ooh sixen is sc2 mvp |
| 03:39.21 | Sixen | :) |
| 03:39.40 | Xinhuan | great job lol |
| 03:39.45 | Xinhuan | do u play wow more or sc2 more now |
| 03:39.53 | Xinhuan | or forums more than either haha |
| 03:40.16 | Sixen | SC2 a lot more :P |
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| 03:47.19 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_claimed_to_possess_an_eidetic_memory |
| 03:47.20 | Adys | .. |
| 03:48.26 | Dagmar | Adys: Never met anyone like that mysefl |
| 04:05.22 | DWSR | amro |
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| 04:09.02 | Xinhuan | hmm blizz just released part 3 of the 4.0 patch on live |
| 04:09.41 | DWSR | Anyone have a virtualbox mirror? |
| 04:09.46 | DWSR | virtualbox.org seems to be down atm |
| 04:11.48 | Xinhuan | 726 mb part 3 |
| 04:12.54 | Dagmar | wow |
| 04:13.02 | Dagmar | That's pretty damn big |
| 04:13.24 | Xinhuan | yeah, and these parts are coming pretty fast and furious |
| 04:14.02 | Thunder_Child | and then there are all the patched that overwrite parts of the previous patches |
| 04:14.06 | Thunder_Child | patches* |
| 04:14.29 | Dagmar | Enjoy it while you can |
| 04:14.36 | Dagmar | Soon that'll be over and done with |
| 04:15.17 | Xinhuan | of all my connected peers, appears the only ones that are at 100% are the ones not using blizzard downloader ;p |
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| 04:18.49 | Dagmar | Hey at least it's not the FF XIV downloader |
| 04:19.04 | Xinhuan | oh god |
| 04:19.06 | Xinhuan | that pos |
| 04:19.09 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 04:19.12 | Xinhuan | is unusable |
| 04:19.23 | Dagmar | Blizz's torrent client works pretty well |
| 04:19.35 | kd3 | ! |
| 04:19.36 | kd3 | wha? |
| 04:19.37 | Dagmar | Square's got dropped on it's head as a child, many, many times. |
| 04:19.43 | kd3 | saturating my upstream != working well |
| 04:19.56 | Xinhuan | the problem with SE's torrent client is that their tracker isn't even usually up |
| 04:20.02 | Dagmar | kd3: You didn't use the FF XIV downloader then. |
| 04:20.11 | Xinhuan | you end up relying on peer exchange and DHT |
| 04:20.13 | Dagmar | Pfft. "the" problem? It had _many_ problems |
| 04:20.13 | kd3 | no, thankfully |
| 04:20.16 | Xinhuan | to get your downloads in ff14 |
| 04:20.42 | Dagmar | Xinhuan: Do you realize that no matter what port your client advertised it was on, their client would _always_ attempt to use the same port it considered the default? |
| 04:20.58 | Xinhuan | nope |
| 04:21.07 | Dagmar | I did like most people and saw that there were .torrent files "just lying there" so I used actual BitTorrent |
| 04:21.29 | Dagmar | ...then I started getting just _spammed to death_ with firewall alarms from all the official clients trying to connect to the wrong port |
| 04:22.17 | Arrowmaster | firewall alarms? what are you using? zonealarm? |
| 04:22.25 | Dagmar | Linux. |
| 04:22.30 | Xinhuan | so kinda like how Alien Swarm keeps trying to connect to 192.xx address when playing online lol |
| 04:22.36 | Xinhuan | their IP publishing is a bit screwed up |
| 04:22.40 | Dagmar | Xinhuan: Something like that yeah hehe |
| 04:23.25 | Galvin | Is SVN not being secure anything I need to worry about for passwords? |
| 04:23.36 | Xinhuan | not really galvin |
| 04:23.43 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: A few packets here and there and things like IRC servers checking me out, it won't bother me with. I was getting LOTS of connection attempts from desperate official clients tho |
| 04:24.05 | Xinhuan | by default wowace/curseforge repos are public as well, so anyone with a wowace/cf account can commit to any project |
| 04:24.13 | Xinhuan | or any addon |
| 04:24.23 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I let their damn client run overnight and got 8%. |
| 04:24.32 | Arrowmaster | Xinhuan: only wowace, not curseforge |
| 04:24.37 | Dagmar | Running BitTorrent, I had _the entire thing_ in about four hours. |
| 04:24.38 | Xinhuan | ah Arrowmaster |
| 04:24.47 | Xinhuan | still, it isn't really a problem |
| 04:24.59 | Galvin | Well I think I set it up so only I can commit to it, I dont want others modifying it. |
| 04:25.01 | Dagmar | It was just _breathtakingly_ broken |
| 04:25.25 | Xinhuan | game's pretty nice looking, i can't even run it on anything past medium graphics or so lol |
| 04:25.36 | Xinhuan | but the lack of hardware mouse support really sucks |
| 04:28.06 | Dagmar | Yeah I had to upgrade to a 9800 to make it tolerable above 1024x768 |
| 04:28.21 | Dagmar | It noms ur frames in a big way when you turn up the pretty |
| 04:28.34 | Dagmar | ...but the um, transaction lag... Inexcuseable. |
| 04:29.15 | Dagmar | Oo! Minecraft auth server worked |
| 04:29.49 | Galvin | .pkgmeta goes in addon folder? |
| 04:29.54 | Shirik | uh |
| 04:30.31 | Shirik | http://kb.wowace.com/projects/pkgmeta-file/ |
| 04:31.03 | Galvin | yeah reading that already. |
| 04:31.17 | Xinhuan | if you have trouble making a file that starts with a . |
| 04:31.20 | Humbedooh | foot goes in mouth |
| 04:31.21 | Xinhuan | use the command prompt ;p |
| 04:31.45 | Xinhuan | or just svn checkout someone else's addon |
| 04:31.46 | Galvin | and for tags I should always put tag: latest? |
| 04:31.48 | Xinhuan | and copy the file |
| 04:31.55 | Humbedooh | if you want the latest |
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| 04:32.08 | Humbedooh | and if it's tagged as latest ;\ |
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| 04:32.20 | Xinhuan | i forgot if latest means latest commit or latest tag heh |
| 04:32.31 | Xinhuan | i don't generally care |
| 04:32.35 | Humbedooh | would think it means latest commit |
| 04:32.40 | Galvin | if it doesn't find the tag it'll still pull it? |
| 04:32.53 | Humbedooh | it'll just pull the latest commit in the trunk ye |
| 04:33.01 | Humbedooh | and some cookies |
| 04:33.51 | Arrowmaster | no its latest tag not commit |
| 04:34.06 | Galvin | Well was reading a thread about tagging someone was talking about how some addon was breaking stuff cayse it didn't use tags in the pkgmeta file. |
| 04:34.14 | Arrowmaster | and really it depends completely on the library if you want to put tag: latest or not |
| 04:34.58 | Galvin | well i'm using ace3 and libsharedmedia and the other lib that has fancy widgets for libsharedmedia |
| 04:35.12 | Humbedooh | if you just fetch the trunk whenever you make a new package, you're bound to fetch some alpha/beta versions now and then ;> |
| 04:35.37 | Galvin | so whats the standard then people dont use tags or not? |
| 04:35.46 | Humbedooh | they do and they don't |
| 04:35.48 | Xinhuan | there's no standard |
| 04:35.53 | Dagmar | MOre meta-data is generally better than less. |
| 04:36.06 | Xinhuan | i generally don't use "latest" but that's me |
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| 04:54.52 | Galvin | there an easy way to find the svn path to different libs? |
| 04:56.45 | Xinhuan | u can find their project pages on wowace website |
| 04:56.50 | Xinhuan | then go to the "repo" tab |
| 04:56.55 | Xinhuan | to get the public svn addresses |
| 04:57.09 | Xinhuan | or just copy it out of some existing addon's .pkgmeta |
| 04:57.22 | Xinhuan | (svn checkout that addon to get it lol) |
| 04:58.47 | Galvin | I clicked on packager status |
| 04:58.51 | Galvin | thanks |
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| 05:20.55 | Galvin | I got a mapping values are not allowed here from my tag I triple checked to make sure I got it right. |
| 05:30.28 | Galvin | forgot url: duh |
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| 05:47.52 | Galvin | Well it worked and I downloaded it and installed it and it ran. so all set. so what happens next or do I just wait for people to alpha test it or something? |
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| 06:01.34 | Mikk | Galvin: make sure it actually runs as the only addon installed too |
| 06:01.48 | Xinhuan | anyone has experience with working with real IDs |
| 06:01.51 | Xinhuan | ? |
| 06:02.02 | Mikk | exit wow -> rename Interface\AddOns to Interface\AddOns.bak or something -> Create a new AddOns folder with only your addon in it |
| 06:02.18 | Mikk | that way you're sure you got the embedding right |
| 06:02.26 | Mikk | and it doesn't just work because some other addon happened to get the libs loaded for you |
| 06:04.06 | Adys | nevcairiel: ping |
| 06:04.08 | Adys | ~seen tuller |
| 06:04.12 | purl | tuller <~Tuller@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #curseforge, 2d 4h 20m 34s ago, saying: 'hurray'. |
| 06:05.03 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjSWPxJxNs |
| 06:05.05 | mikma | ruhahahahaa |
| 06:08.46 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1180008885 |
| 06:10.00 | Shirik | um |
| 06:10.02 | Shirik | so |
| 06:10.06 | Shirik | the world thinks I'm french |
| 06:10.22 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shirik&diff=386884109&oldid=386884007 |
| 06:10.43 | Xinhuan | so don't build your house with wood :P |
| 06:11.11 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:13.38 | Adys | cleans up Shirik's French dirtiness |
| 06:15.15 | mikma | shirik: yeah, dont build your house with wood, then people dont think you're french |
| 06:22.45 | Napoleone | or those who went into troya |
| 06:25.51 | Shirik | mikma |
| 06:26.00 | Shirik | I demand a kuvaton image for context |
| 06:26.49 | mikma | shirik: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/ladies_cat.jpg |
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| 06:27.10 | Dagmar | I wonder if there's any way we could suggest to the Minecraft guy that ifhis auth system bastardized DNS a little bit it would be more resilient against downtime |
| 06:37.15 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:BlockList |
| 06:37.18 | Shirik | My name is in there way too much |
| 06:38.53 | mikma | cockblock-shirik |
| 06:39.54 | Jamash | this is how real house fires start |
| 06:41.58 | Napoleone | !api saved varables |
| 06:41.59 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'saved varables'. |
| 06:42.04 | Napoleone | !api saved variables |
| 06:42.04 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'saved variables'. |
| 06:43.14 | Iriel | There's no API for saved variables |
| 06:43.17 | Iriel | It's a .TOC entry |
| 06:43.28 | Napoleone | more about useage aswell ; |
| 06:45.00 | mikma | .toc: # SavedVariables: MyAddOnDB |
| 06:45.25 | mikma | .lua: MyAddODB = "Data I am needing to save over login/reload" |
| 06:45.45 | mikma | s/MyAddODB/MyAddOnDB/ |
| 06:46.31 | Shirik | huggles mikma |
| 06:48.45 | mikma | http://twitter.com/tarjahalonen - President of Finland, best friend of Conando |
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| 06:58.50 | nevcairiel | Adys: pong |
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| 07:02.44 | mikma | shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DAP9x0Fk3U |
| 07:09.46 | Adys | nevcairiel: you ever messed with cpython api? |
| 07:09.53 | nevcairiel | no |
| 07:12.14 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/G4ohMIkol4Q/ |
| 07:12.23 | Adys | ckknight: did you? |
| 07:13.13 | ckknight | no, but Kaelten has |
| 07:13.25 | Adys | aight, ill poke him later |
| 07:25.07 | mikma | hehe |
| 07:25.17 | mikma | i can't get cata started, it crashes with every login |
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| 07:28.14 | Adys | mikma: OS? |
| 07:29.08 | mikma | win7 |
| 07:29.28 | Adys | mikma: try delete Battle.net.dll and Scan.dll |
| 07:29.34 | Adys | they'll be recreated (they should be) |
| 07:29.37 | Adys | (back them up.) |
| 07:29.45 | Adys | er wait |
| 07:29.49 | Adys | by login what do you mean? |
| 07:29.55 | Adys | after authentication, or on world load? |
| 07:30.11 | mikma | i login to my character list, i select characte and press login -> loading, boom. |
| 07:30.22 | Adys | delete World of Warcraft/Data/Cache |
| 07:32.41 | mikma | so what was the lines in data/engb/realmlist.wtf again? |
| 07:34.23 | Adys | er |
| 07:34.31 | Adys | you dont need them |
| 07:34.35 | Adys | they're automatically added |
| 07:34.56 | mikma | Launcher cannot obatin patching information. Pleace check your Internet configuration. |
| 07:35.39 | mikma | neat! |
| 07:35.53 | Adys | uh |
| 07:35.54 | Adys | sec |
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| 07:36.12 | Adys | set realmlist public-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 07:36.12 | Adys | set patchlist public-test.patch.battle.net:1119/patch |
| 07:36.12 | Adys | set realmlistbn "" |
| 07:36.12 | Adys | set portal public-beta |
| 07:36.45 | mikma | interesting |
| 07:38.37 | mikma | unable to validate game version. |
| 07:38.41 | mikma | this is just great :D |
| 07:39.32 | Adys | delete all the WTF files and caches |
| 07:39.45 | mikma | i did, and after that i can't login :D |
| 07:40.05 | mikma | i'll just run this repair, and see what happens |
| 07:40.25 | Adys | what did you delete? |
| 07:40.30 | Adys | told you to delete only Data/Cacher |
| 07:40.32 | Adys | -r |
| 07:41.21 | mikma | oh, i deleted Cache and WTF only |
| 07:42.19 | Adys | add what i pasted in Config.wtf too |
| 07:43.48 | mikma | Launcher cannot obtain patching information. Pleace check your Internet configuration. ... |
| 07:44.13 | Adys | dont start launcher |
| 07:44.16 | Adys | start wow directly |
| 07:44.19 | Adys | it'll rebuild Launcher.wtf |
| 07:44.22 | mikma | it tries to start patching for soem reason |
| 07:44.30 | mikma | "restart is required" |
| 07:44.33 | Adys | then |
| 07:44.36 | Adys | add this to Launcher.wtf |
| 07:44.36 | Adys | SET downloadCompleted "1" |
| 07:44.42 | Adys | same dir as Config.wtf |
| 07:46.49 | Napoleone | anyone know what suff will cost after the currency rewamp? |
| 07:47.31 | mikma | adys: where is Laucher.wtf located? |
| 07:48.12 | Adys | [08:44:30] <Adys> same dir as Config.wtf |
| 07:49.34 | mikma | nope.. |
| 07:49.46 | mikma | i'll just run the repair now and see what happens |
| 07:50.34 | Adys | weird |
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| 07:54.54 | Xinhuan | err Mikma, you need to edit your config.wtf and change your locale to enUS |
| 07:55.10 | Xinhuan | or whatever locale you have the realmlist file in |
| 07:55.19 | Adys | that too |
| 07:55.23 | Xinhuan | if they don't match, you get the error |
| 07:55.31 | Xinhuan | about not being able to obtain patch info |
| 07:55.54 | Xinhuan | cos the streamer will download data based on what locale you are on |
| 07:56.50 | zenzelezz | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/09/bill-gates-staring-back-at-you-from-outlook-2010.ars |
| 07:58.05 | Adys | zenzelezz: hahah |
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| 08:05.18 | mikma | quite interesting that it even fails to recreate the realmlist.wtf |
| 08:05.32 | Xinhuan | it doesn't |
| 08:05.35 | Xinhuan | it expects it to be there |
| 08:05.57 | Xinhuan | the file is installed from the DVD in whatever language you choose or something |
| 08:06.18 | Xinhuan | its part of the base install |
| 08:06.55 | mikma | that was it, SET locale "enGB" did the trick |
| 08:07.06 | mikma | but let's see can i login |
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| 08:10.38 | mikma | woot |
| 08:12.57 | Fisker | my lord |
| 08:36.38 | Xinhuan | cross-faction mailing is only for hierlooms right? |
| 08:38.15 | mikma | ya |
| 08:38.41 | nevcairiel | any account bound stuff, actually |
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| 09:03.11 | mikma | nevcairiel: piiiiiiiiing |
| 09:03.22 | mikma | fisker: ping you too, lol! |
| 09:09.34 | zenzelezz | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/842d22ef-b6e5-440a-ba67-e0a3e41880bf.jpg - Gandalf would kick you ass if he knew you couldn't spell his name |
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| 09:12.45 | Cairenn | You know .... Minion riding on Deathwing's back isn't actually a bad idea .... |
| 09:13.22 | Cairenn | I don't think Blizz would get upset with us over it (although I'd have to check first) since we don't /sell/ the t-shirts, we give them away |
| 09:14.21 | zenzelezz | if you do, plix to mail me one :-( |
| 09:14.35 | Cairenn | shoot, wrong channel |
| 09:14.36 | Cairenn | gah |
| 09:14.39 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:14.54 | Cairenn | plz to ignore ;) |
| 09:16.51 | mikma | 12:16 Ignoring ALL from cairenn |
| 09:16.59 | Cairenn | heh |
| 09:17.06 | Xinhuan | did i hear free t-shirts? |
| 09:17.12 | Cairenn | no :p |
| 09:17.43 | mikma | if i tell you the name of our baby, can has free t-shirt? |
| 09:18.02 | Cairenn | what is baby name?!?! *squeees* |
| 09:18.03 | dolby | if Cairenn can name your baby... maybe |
| 09:18.24 | mikma | she can't name her any better than we already did, 6 months ago ;D |
| 09:18.34 | Xinhuan | Cairenn, is there a way to list my addon (on wowi) as being 4.0 capable, without uploading it in that category as a new addon? |
| 09:18.57 | Cairenn | you can comment in your description, but other than that, not right now |
| 09:19.06 | Xinhuan | that 3.3 checkbox |
| 09:19.14 | Xinhuan | is like, maybe should update that to 4.0 |
| 09:19.25 | Cairenn | won't get switched until 4.0 is a whole hell of a lot closer |
| 09:19.31 | dolby | Cairenn told me not to |
| 09:19.34 | dolby | blame her |
| 09:19.47 | Xinhuan | pours blame on Cairenn |
| 09:19.48 | Cairenn | It's always my fault ;) |
| 09:20.49 | dolby | Cairenn didnt you say Cataclysm is going live next Tuesday? |
| 09:20.54 | mikma | cairenn: so how about that shirt? ;) |
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| 09:22.48 | Cairenn | blarg |
| 09:22.59 | dolby | I can get you a Cairenn Fan Club tshirt |
| 09:23.09 | Cairenn | glares at dolby |
| 09:23.38 | zenzelezz | http://www.madatoms.com/site/blog/generation-gaps/ |
| 09:23.45 | zenzelezz | dolby: do want |
| 09:23.54 | mikma | dolby: that'll do |
| 09:24.05 | Cairenn | NO |
| 09:24.10 | dolby | lol |
| 09:24.20 | mikma | too late, already promised |
| 09:25.37 | zenzelezz | poor Cairenn, it ain't easy being a celebrity |
| 09:25.46 | Cairenn | sighs |
| 09:25.58 | Xinhuan | you got a trip to LA once :P |
| 09:26.08 | Xinhuan | so there's pros! |
| 09:26.40 | mikma | now, let's get her mugshot |
| 09:27.22 | Cairenn | N |
| 09:27.23 | Cairenn | O |
| 09:27.36 | dolby | should have a contest |
| 09:27.39 | mikma | Cairenn gains: Running Wild |
| 09:28.13 | Cairenn | oh dear gods & goddesses, shut UP dolby! |
| 09:28.22 | Cairenn | stop giving them ideas! |
| 09:28.35 | mikma | ~dolby++ |
| 09:28.43 | mikma | master of disaster |
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| 09:36.07 | zenzelezz | rogues these days... (possibly NSFW) http://women.hawtness.com/2010/09/24/wtf-girl-photos-get-those-knives-away-from-dita/ |
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| 10:22.48 | zenzelezz | so, World of Darkness confirmed, based on Vampire: The Masquerade... wonder how many teens will flock to that to play out their vampire-movie/series-inspired fantasies |
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| 10:35.31 | Xinhuan | probably a lot less than a world of wheel of time |
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| 10:55.22 | the-golem | lol |
| 10:55.46 | the-golem | the old world WoD was epicness |
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| 11:24.17 | amro | what's the equivalent of the unary ! operator in shell? |
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| 11:39.50 | the-golem | amro: logical not, right? |
| 11:41.03 | the-golem | amro: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/opprecedence.html#AEN4175 might help |
| 11:55.29 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azl0T99eqo4&feature=player_embedded |
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| 12:23.45 | bleeter | wut |
| 12:23.53 | A-KO | so |
| 12:23.56 | A-KO | stuxnet = NSA/CIA? :P |
| 12:24.12 | cbreak | I doubt it |
| 12:24.17 | A-KO | you don't think so? |
| 12:24.19 | A-KO | I dunno dude |
| 12:24.25 | A-KO | the way that shit targets certain devices |
| 12:24.31 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/09/stuxnet-worm-attacks-industrial-targets-could-be-aimed-at-iran.ars |
| 12:24.35 | A-KO | yes |
| 12:24.54 | cbreak | according to comments there, the Iran doesn't even have the type of hardware that the worm attacks |
| 12:24.54 | bleeter | i'd say the CIA/NSA approved MI6 to pay the Russians to code it ;) |
| 12:24.59 | A-KO | has led some researchers to speculate that it was crafted by a major government body with the aim of disabling Iran's nuclear power plant. |
| 12:25.15 | A-KO | cbreak: sure, but that would make it all the more likely |
| 12:26.15 | amro | bleeter: but where do the chinese come into the picture? |
| 12:26.55 | bleeter | amro: prolly their suggestion, after all last thing they really want is heavily nuclearised north korea jsut they can't say that in public :P |
| 12:27.37 | amro | but it's really an elaborate coverup, the worm is alien in origin |
| 12:36.15 | Adys | amro: i bet it's the same alien that staged the moon landing |
| 12:38.00 | amro | armstrong is an alien? |
| 12:38.03 | amro | that explains a LOT |
| 12:39.45 | bleeter | he downloaded it to goldblum's apple laptop via sattelite |
| 12:41.46 | zenzelezz | you guys have it all wrong |
| 12:42.16 | zenzelezz | the NSA wrote the stuxnet worm to infect computers with their SETA@Home profile so they could boost their score off other people's computers |
| 12:44.57 | amro | but I want to blame goldblum |
| 12:45.40 | A-KO | could have been Israel, too :P |
| 12:45.42 | A-KO | I wouldn't rule them out |
| 12:46.29 | amro | they're actually more likely |
| 12:46.35 | amro | because they don't give a flop about international fallout |
| 12:46.56 | bleeter | they give a bit more this time after what happened last time |
| 12:47.03 | amro | which time? |
| 12:47.21 | amro | that assasination? |
| 12:47.23 | bleeter | when they used those stolen UK German Aussie passports to kill off that chap in (Syria?) |
| 12:47.26 | bleeter | yeah |
| 12:47.36 | bleeter | the stolen passports were just dumb |
| 12:47.48 | amro | they've whacked countless people before |
| 12:47.52 | amro | once even admitting to i |
| 12:47.53 | amro | t |
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| 12:48.07 | bleeter | justlook at vanunu |
| 12:48.59 | zenzelezz | "I hate Rouges. They are overpowdered." |
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| 13:48.09 | Napoleone | any easy way to resolve the guildlist for names. and lvl and class. |
| 13:48.18 | Napoleone | need it for chat coloring. |
| 13:49.35 | Cide | www.wowprogramming.com |
| 13:50.54 | Napoleone | can i retrieve class lvl from a chamessage? not in the argument i can see |
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| 13:55.09 | bleeter | Cide: So I hear it's not your fault anymore, grats. |
| 13:55.18 | bleeter | blames cog|away |
| 13:55.47 | Thunder_Child | bleeter: i'm sure you just heardwrong |
| 13:56.10 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: they can't both be at fault, can they?! |
| 13:56.24 | Thunder_Child | bleeter: sure, why not |
| 13:56.46 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVXxbMEzLWg |
| 13:56.56 | bleeter | i refuse to beleive. one has to be more to blame than the other!1!!!!11111!!!! |
| 13:57.40 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: and to be fair, it's been Cide's fault for so long the poor bugger deserves a bit of long service leave |
| 13:58.20 | Thunder_Child | bleeter: being nice will get you nowhere |
| 13:58.29 | mikma | HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6jLnspqXtM |
| 13:58.55 | bleeter | Thunder_Child: am currently at nowhere, not planning on going anywhere in a hurry either :P |
| 13:59.15 | bleeter | slaps Thunder_Child with a damn Fisker |
| 13:59.19 | bleeter | damp |
| 13:59.21 | bleeter | bah |
| 13:59.24 | bleeter | faisl |
| 13:59.38 | bleeter | gtfo |
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| 14:09.30 | Wobin | mikma: hahaha, that's awesome |
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| 14:13.04 | haste | mikma: best music! |
| 14:13.19 | haste | too bad I don't remember what song that is |
| 14:13.51 | haste | ah yes, running in the 90s |
| 14:19.47 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhcOWmjSBlg |
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| 14:24.09 | Wobin | A-KO: I love that video |
| 14:24.35 | A-KO | lol |
| 14:25.10 | Wobin | Especially the fact that he can -actually- sing =P |
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| 14:29.55 | zenzelezz | http://www.fileplanet.com/111382/0/0/0/1/section/v3.2 - it's nice to see FilePlanet is helping fight private serv... oh, never mind |
| 14:30.56 | Fisker | omg the sun it burns |
| 14:31.24 | haste | fileplanet still exists?! |
| 14:31.37 | nebula | looks way different than i remember |
| 14:32.01 | haste | yeah, I havne't seen it since 2003 or so |
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| 14:32.11 | haste | when it was.. uhm.. light brownish |
| 14:32.20 | Fisker | haste i think their continued existence is dependent on D2D + betas for games that'll reach open beta a few days later anyway |
| 14:32.58 | haste | yeah, that's why I remember it from around 2003 :P |
| 14:33.03 | haste | there was some closed beta for subscribers |
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| 14:33.11 | haste | and I happened to have a free subscribers account |
| 14:34.00 | mikma | any ideas how worgen's get the Running Wild, and is it in the game yet? |
| 14:34.02 | Fisker | :O |
| 14:34.09 | nebula | i remember someone in hs paid for an account, and that login spread like wildfire through our little gaming community |
| 14:34.53 | nebula | got a nice personal email from gamespy about how since the account was being accessed simultaniously in five different states, they were going to shut it down |
| 14:35.11 | Fisker | baw |
| 14:35.18 | Fisker | that reminds me |
| 14:35.30 | Fisker | their single-sign-on conversion was horrible |
| 14:35.32 | Fisker | as was EA's btw |
| 14:36.09 | nebula | mikma: i'd assume through a quest when you hit 20, or 30 or whenever you get your first mount |
| 14:36.38 | amro | when you ding 20, you get chased by a bunch of bullies |
| 14:36.42 | amro | and you must run |
| 14:36.57 | Fisker | Sounds like the plot from a twilight movie amro |
| 14:37.10 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 14:37.17 | zenzelezz | run, worgen, run! |
| 14:37.32 | amro | it would be wawgen |
| 14:50.43 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5646308/netflix-ceo-thinks-americans-are-too-egocentric-to-notice-canadas-discount |
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| 14:55.57 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 14:58.34 | mikma | lol, right, Running Wild is in the Mounts tab |
| 14:59.59 | cbreak | does it only work in worgen form? |
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| 15:06.36 | Napoleone | asking for advice about how i could go about doing this... in my simple chatwindow. i want to implement lvl and class colored name, is it decent to make a savedvariable that contains all knows players and their lvls and class. but how would i go about getting that info kinda automated.. like from guildroster and such |
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| 15:11.24 | cbreak | why do you want to store that data? |
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| 15:11.35 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:11.39 | |Jelly| | STATION! |
| 15:11.43 | |Jelly| | STATION, I SAY! |
| 15:11.47 | cbreak | it will use a lot of memory and increase the load/login time of WoW |
| 15:11.51 | Napoleone | Lunessa |Jelly| huh? |
| 15:12.07 | cbreak | you can query the API if the player is in your raid/party |
| 15:12.09 | Napoleone | prat does it |
| 15:12.14 | cbreak | or maybe the /who api if they are not |
| 15:12.25 | Napoleone | but was thinking of party/raid and guild |
| 15:12.29 | cbreak | (although that was rather inconvenient back when I tried it, in classic) |
| 15:12.39 | Lunessa | Napoleone: Ever seen Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure and the sequel Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey? |
| 15:12.42 | cbreak | party and raid is easy |
| 15:12.56 | Napoleone | prat does it and saves EVERYTHING lol. 99% of my trade i know lvl and class of ;P |
| 15:12.56 | cbreak | guild is possible to query for class and level too I think, but not looked at yet |
| 15:13.14 | cbreak | maybe that's becayse prat is a shitty addon? |
| 15:13.39 | amro | more importantly, if prat does it why aren't you looking at its source code? |
| 15:13.45 | cbreak | without any care about load time and memory consumption |
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| 15:18.48 | Napoleone | amro i am. and since the core mod doesnt really do it..(as far as my knowlegde in code reading goes) and they use tonns of lib's |
| 15:18.54 | Napoleone | cbreak why is it soo crap? |
| 15:19.29 | cbreak | because it stores ephemeral data in saved variables according to napoleon. |
| 15:19.54 | Napoleone | thats how i would have done it since it remembers over all chars |
| 15:27.44 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 15:28.05 | Napoleone | i have to call the funtion GuildRoster() |
| 15:28.16 | Napoleone | then wait for the event GUILD_ROSTER_UPDATE |
| 15:28.21 | Napoleone | and then i can get the info.. |
| 15:28.25 | haste | yep |
| 15:28.38 | haste | do not that the information is throttle and can be up to ten seconds delayed |
| 15:28.45 | Napoleone | so make a funtion that triggers on event and saved the info. |
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| 15:29.00 | Napoleone | i know |
| 15:29.05 | haste | ie. even when GRU fires it can be "outdated" |
| 15:29.09 | Napoleone | but it says its available after the event is fired |
| 15:29.17 | haste | it is |
| 15:29.32 | Napoleone | so a funtion to react to the guild_roster_ event |
| 15:29.45 | haste | if you aren't modifying and polling much it won't matter (what I'm saying that is) |
| 15:34.05 | Napoleone | just saw this addon message... |
| 15:34.13 | Napoleone | CHAT_MSG_ADDON |
| 15:34.24 | Napoleone | one variable fills the screen lol |
| 15:35.31 | mikma | yeah? |
| 15:35.40 | Napoleone | no idea what and where.. |
| 15:35.41 | cbreak | those can be up to 255 bytes (meta included) |
| 15:35.41 | Napoleone | too big |
| 15:36.03 | cbreak | maybe it was made bigger lately |
| 15:36.08 | haste | don't think so |
| 15:36.38 | mikma | napoleone: addons communicating |
| 15:36.41 | Napoleone | ye |
| 15:36.48 | Napoleone | but i cant see wich one ;) |
| 15:37.20 | cbreak | the first few bytes are the addon Identifier |
| 15:37.23 | Napoleone | one last question would an array be the best way to store name class and lvl? |
| 15:37.42 | amro | there are no arrays, just tables |
| 15:37.46 | cbreak | a string might be less space consuming than a table |
| 15:38.04 | amro | that's a pointless optimization |
| 15:38.05 | cbreak | for level you would only need one byte, naturally, for class as well |
| 15:38.18 | cbreak | an empty table already uses more |
| 15:38.29 | amro | that |
| 15:38.34 | amro | s one-time overhead |
| 15:38.37 | cbreak | but using a table makes using it easier :) |
| 15:38.52 | cbreak | maybe you can save memory with deduplication |
| 15:39.04 | cbreak | ... |
| 15:39.13 | cbreak | or just don't store it on disk |
| 15:39.22 | cbreak | login times are bad enough :/ |
| 15:40.06 | Napoleone | is it really gonna affect that much if i have a timer on it aswell that names not seen in over 1 week is removed |
| 15:41.10 | cbreak | then you have to store dates |
| 15:41.17 | cbreak | which will make parsing it even slower :) |
| 15:41.26 | cbreak | I have no idea if it's worth it for you |
| 15:41.31 | cbreak | you'll have to try it out |
| 15:41.45 | mikma | napoleone: /eventtrace and click the event? |
| 15:41.51 | cbreak | (but forgetting about old players is a requirement, I agree) |
| 15:41.53 | Napoleone | mikma wich one? |
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| 15:42.57 | mikma | napoleone: err, all of them if you want? |
| 15:43.28 | mikma | shirik: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/wc33.jpg |
| 15:43.34 | Napoleone | aaah i said i saw one in eventtrace... filled the screen |
| 15:44.07 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/bieber_cobain.jpg |
| 15:44.15 | amro | I'll fill your screen with my eventtrace |
| 15:44.21 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 15:44.27 | Napoleone | tahts what she said!! |
| 15:46.16 | Cide | amro is female, so yes |
| 15:47.20 | Adys | Cide |
| 15:47.21 | Adys | hi |
| 15:47.28 | amro | Cide: are you implying that you got beaten by a girl? |
| 15:48.05 | amro | stop failing on syphilisation and get on worms |
| 15:48.06 | Cide | Adys |
| 15:48.07 | Cide | hi |
| 15:48.11 | Cide | amro: yes |
| 15:51.25 | Cide | let me fix worms windowed first |
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| 15:52.54 | awweaver | Is there a good working quest tracker add? not questhelper preferably |
| 15:54.51 | awweaver | addon |
| 15:55.06 | amro | they still make those? |
| 15:55.10 | awweaver | .... |
| 15:55.15 | amro | the ingame one already does tracking |
| 15:55.23 | awweaver | I prefer it over the ingame one... |
| 15:55.37 | awweaver | I miss my carbonite map too |
| 15:55.38 | amro | you prefer one you don't know exist |
| 15:55.40 | amro | exists |
| 15:56.09 | awweaver | I use carbonite on the live realms....doies one work for cataclysm |
| 15:56.39 | Napoleone | can tables be indexed by the "name"? |
| 15:57.35 | amro | what do you mean? |
| 15:58.01 | Napoleone | instead of 1 - Napo - Suckadin |
| 15:58.11 | Thrae | Napoleone: One of the staples of Lua is almost everything's in some type of heavily optimized hash table, which includes strings. So a table entry of foo.bar is equivilent to foo["bar"]. |
| 15:58.23 | Napoleone | i index by name so when adding on update if name exist.. update info if needed |
| 15:58.54 | Cide | ok amro |
| 15:58.55 | Cide | let's go |
| 15:59.11 | Thrae | Napoleone: Yeah, if Napo is the key, than db.Napo == db["Napo"] |
| 16:01.04 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil. |
| 16:01.18 | Thrae | Napoleone: And since Lua uses objects, you can simply do if db["Napo"] then ... end. In fact you can get crazy with checks like that, such as t = foo["bar"] or "Doesn't exist" |
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| 16:01.45 | Thrae | s/ t / s / |
| 16:02.04 | amro | thrae would know about crazy things |
| 16:02.10 | Napoleone | hehe |
| 16:02.39 | Thrae | amro: You're just jealous I have the power to ignore my addons. |
| 16:03.09 | Thrae | Well, secretly I am hoping 4.0 gives me better API to work with tooltips than 3.0, which added some notables but not nearly enough. |
| 16:03.19 | amro | I'm jealous I'm not as awesome |
| 16:03.22 | Cide | create a library imo |
| 16:03.37 | Cide | name it 'TipTool |
| 16:04.16 | Thrae | Cide: I believe in frameworks, not libraries. oUF is a great example of that. |
| 16:04.28 | Cide | a tooltip framework sounds a bit overboard |
| 16:04.28 | Thrae | A great example haste did, not I. |
| 16:04.36 | amro | oFU imo |
| 16:08.41 | Lunessa | I don't think you'll be thrilled with API changes for the tooltip. |
| 16:10.31 | Napoleone | can tables only hold 1 datafield? key + date? |
| 16:10.33 | Napoleone | data |
| 16:10.56 | Thrae | Cide: Well the difference in my mind between frameworks and libraries are that frameworks are designed specifically while libraries are designed generally. All addons implement their own APIs. I'm talking about something pretty specific, tooltip hacking, but in a sane way. My problem with tooltip managers, and really most addons, is that they are all borg creations that are way too specific and non-extensible. |
| 16:11.53 | Cide | shrug |
| 16:12.00 | Thrae | I guess the real reason I stopped coding was that I couldn't shape my addons into what I wanted. The WoW API needed more flexibility, but there was also being blocked by my own failed designs. |
| 16:12.11 | Cide | frameworks are broader than libraries in my definition |
| 16:12.59 | Thrae | I really had fun coding with oUF and it got me thinking again about how to make something in the *spirit* of oUF for tooltip skinning and extension. |
| 16:13.28 | Thrae | I really had fun coding with oUF and it got me thinking again about how to make something in the *spirit* of oUF for tooltip skinning and extension. <-- forgot to ping haste |
| 16:14.03 | Thrae | I wonder if haste even has himself setup for pings. The haste stat in WoW is even more important in 4.0! |
| 16:14.30 | haste | I have a highlight filter |
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| 16:14.32 | Thrae | Napoleone: Do you have any programming experience? |
| 16:14.52 | Napoleone | a bit. but lua is different in some ways ;P |
| 16:15.48 | Napoleone | Thrae do you know if oUF supports the new BG frames? since xperl removes my raid when it discovers i'm not in a raid. lol |
| 16:16.04 | Thrae | haste: Outside direct addresses like this, it must be pretty damn advanced if it can pick up the nick "haste" without picking up references to the stat in WoW and the word, etc. Do you just have that turned off? |
| 16:17.22 | Thrae | Napoleone: Uh, if you were reading my posts, the reason I kept pinging "haste" is because HE is the designer and coder of oUF. And he just talked. Anyway, I use oUF_freebgrid with my own slight hacks. I don't really code raid frames, only player and target frames with oUF. |
| 16:18.13 | haste | Thrae: _all_ highlights go to buffer 2, with channel, time and message information |
| 16:18.32 | haste | Thrae: all highlights begining with haste(seperator) enable notification |
| 16:18.58 | haste | then there's a list of words that prevents in line highlights from triggering one |
| 16:19.59 | haste | s/one/notifications/ that is |
| 16:20.15 | haste | there's also a different action color on channels with in-line and at-start highlights :P |
| 16:20.52 | Thrae | haste: My curiousity is how often you get false positives for non-directs. 10%? 50%? |
| 16:21.35 | Thrae | haste: To prevent many false positives your word filter must either be very long or with some ingenious algorithm or both. |
| 16:22.13 | haste | it's not too bad, it mostly contains words like spell, melee and the classes |
| 16:22.30 | haste | that removes so to say 90% of the "false" highlights |
| 16:22.35 | kd3 | haste. it's so OP |
| 16:22.40 | kd3 | trigger? |
| 16:22.42 | kd3 | >.> |
| 16:22.42 | haste | y |
| 16:23.00 | haste | I don't worry too much about those :P |
| 16:23.05 | Napoleone | table.insert(PPUI, "Clefthöf", "80 DRUID") <-- wowlua doesnt like this at all ;P |
| 16:23.29 | Cide | neither does regular lua |
| 16:23.33 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 16:24.00 | Shirik | huh? yes it does |
| 16:24.05 | Napoleone | so i cant use names for key then |
| 16:24.10 | Thrae | Napoleone: Yeah, look up how table.insert works. Your Lua syntax is just plain wrong. |
| 16:24.11 | Cide | lua> table.insert({}, "abc", "def") |
| 16:24.11 | lua_bot | Cide: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'insert' (number expected, got string) |
| 16:24.14 | Cide | I win Shirik |
| 16:24.18 | Shirik | oh sorry |
| 16:24.21 | Shirik | I wasn't thinking about that |
| 16:24.28 | Napoleone | > table.insert(t, "billy", 55) somebody explaining |
| 16:24.31 | Shirik | I was looking at the special character |
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| 16:24.50 | Napoleone | hmm so names cant be keys.. damn |
| 16:24.53 | Shirik | yes they can |
| 16:25.04 | Cide | learn lua like I'm telling you to |
| 16:25.05 | Shirik | you simply can't use table.insert |
| 16:25.23 | Napoleone | PPUI = {} is defined |
| 16:25.27 | Napoleone | if thats what you mean |
| 16:25.29 | Cide | www |
| 16:25.30 | Cide | . |
| 16:25.30 | Cide | lua |
| 16:25.33 | Cide | . |
| 16:25.33 | Cide | org |
| 16:25.34 | Thrae | Napoleone: You said you have some programming experience...have you worked with arrays at all? table.insert is a very basic command. |
| 16:25.35 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.36 | Cide | pil |
| 16:25.39 | Shirik | no, I mean you can't use table.insert |
| 16:25.47 | Cide | it describes how to set keys in a table |
| 16:25.54 | Cide | and it describes the use case of table.insert |
| 16:26.03 | Cide | and why you shouldn't use table.insert for this use case |
| 16:26.05 | Cide | so read it |
| 16:26.27 | Shirik | Cide: Please make a UML diagram for all the use cases of tables, thanks |
| 16:26.36 | Cide | fuck no |
| 16:26.55 | cbreak | the number of use cases is unlimited |
| 16:26.58 | Lunessa | Cide: It's such a basic response, lately we seem to get people who want to write addons, but not learn the language they're written in. *shakes his head sadly* |
| 16:27.04 | Thrae | Napoleone: What programming language are you most familiar with? Are you having trouble understanding www.lua.org/pil? |
| 16:27.10 | haste | ~bible |
| 16:27.11 | purl | i guess bible is http://wowprogramming.com |
| 16:27.14 | haste | also works |
| 16:28.06 | Napoleone | well php is my backbone for years i guess |
| 16:28.17 | Napoleone | been a while since i programmed at all .thanks to studies |
| 16:28.55 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Wifione&diff=386841380&oldid=386795476 |
| 16:29.43 | haste | haha |
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| 16:33.24 | Napoleone | fuck it.. reading in the book.. that site doesnt answer my question |
| 16:34.23 | mikma | anyone in beta eu ally here? need guildinvite |
| 16:35.29 | Shirik | Cide, I am quickly realizing the "inheritance" offered by Python really isn't inheritance |
| 16:35.35 | Shirik | like interfaces |
| 16:35.43 | Shirik | unless I'm mistaken, but interfaces don't seem to have a purpose |
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| 16:38.35 | Napoleone | wow 2 mins with the book and it makes more sense.. jnwhiteh owns as usual |
| 16:39.08 | Shirik | A bit of advice from someone who works on safety-critical systems: |
| 16:39.25 | Shirik | Don't try to learn and hack along the way. Hands-on practice is important, but knowing what you're doing is more important. |
| 16:40.01 | Shirik | PIL doesn't take that long to read, you should read it before going into anything really complex. (You can skip the C API part) |
| 16:41.11 | Napoleone | I'm not used to that kind of wording yet. so it's tough reading and understanding for me. I'm more a hands on experience and understanding through doing guy |
| 16:43.04 | amro | Shirik: why would interfaces have any purpose? |
| 16:43.06 | amro | it's duck typed |
| 16:43.20 | Shirik | because that's how OO works |
| 16:43.42 | amro | that's how statically typed OO works |
| 16:44.13 | Shirik | that's how GOOD OO works |
| 16:44.34 | Adys | that's how statically typed GOOD OO works |
| 16:44.43 | amro | you can't just reuse the same paradigms with a dynamic language |
| 16:44.52 | Shirik | yes I can |
| 16:44.56 | Shirik | everything should be like C++ |
| 16:45.02 | amro | you can, but that's how you end up failing |
| 16:45.19 | Shirik | seriously though, what's the point of inheritance |
| 16:45.22 | Shirik | I'm missing it |
| 16:45.33 | amro | just inheriting functionality |
| 16:45.36 | amro | not polymorphism |
| 16:45.47 | Adys | it cuts down on code duplication |
| 16:45.50 | Shirik | I don't see how inheritance helps with that |
| 16:45.56 | amro | yeah it does |
| 16:45.59 | Shirik | I still have to explicitly call the base class |
| 16:46.09 | Adys | no |
| 16:46.09 | Adys | well |
| 16:46.10 | amro | only if your new code calls the base class |
| 16:46.17 | amro | it doesn't have to |
| 16:46.19 | Adys | unless you mean super() ? |
| 16:46.20 | amro | and most often it doesn't |
| 16:46.31 | Adys | in which case, that's not necessary anymore in 3.x |
| 16:46.31 | Shirik | so if I don't define a function it gets it? |
| 16:46.35 | amro | yes |
| 16:46.36 | Adys | yeah |
| 16:46.43 | Shirik | ok that's a little better |
| 16:46.49 | Shirik | but that's not what I understood from the documentation |
| 16:46.58 | Adys | um |
| 16:47.08 | amro | you're not still reading that shit from 2002 are you? |
| 16:47.13 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 16:47.17 | amro | link? |
| 16:47.18 | Adys | what are you reading? |
| 16:47.26 | Shirik | I don't know I read it yesterday I don't still have it |
| 16:47.29 | amro | ah |
| 16:47.42 | Adys | http://diveintopython3.org/ |
| 16:47.43 | Adys | ^ |
| 16:47.47 | Shirik | I'm not using python 3 |
| 16:47.49 | Adys | your best shot at updated doc |
| 16:47.54 | Adys | yeah but it's still good |
| 16:48.02 | Adys | there arent *that* many differences |
| 16:48.08 | Adys | and i think the guy highlights them |
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| 16:50.12 | Adys | with that said |
| 16:50.16 | Adys | am I hallucinating? |
| 16:50.21 | Adys | is Shirik picking up on python? |
| 16:50.37 | Adys | Shirik, any underscores growing next to your pubes yet? |
| 16:50.41 | Shirik | I'm pragmatic. Even when I hate something I will still use it if it's the right choice. |
| 16:50.52 | Shirik | And python is the right choice for this project |
| 16:50.57 | amro | I always thought you knew python but hated it |
| 16:50.58 | Adys | what is it? |
| 16:51.07 | Shirik | amro: That which I knew I picked up from Cide |
| 16:51.16 | Adys | there's your problem. |
| 16:51.20 | amro | he's teaching other AIs how to speak human languages |
| 16:51.27 | Shirik | that's fairly close actually |
| 16:51.29 | Adys | that's a lisp job |
| 16:51.32 | Adys | not a python job |
| 16:51.45 | Shirik | It's a program that's going to sit around taking questions about our school and answering them |
| 16:51.50 | Shirik | so you talk to it, have aconversation, etc. |
| 16:51.56 | Shirik | Say like "What degrees are offered here?" |
| 16:51.58 | Shirik | it will respond |
| 16:52.00 | Shirik | etc. |
| 16:52.21 | Shirik | And python is very good for natural language processing |
| 16:52.39 | kd3 | ooh, an eliza bot? |
| 16:52.46 | Shirik | Eliza doesn't have memory, does it? |
| 16:52.49 | Adys | i was gonna say |
| 16:52.50 | kd3 | that's all those things ever act like when I try to use them |
| 16:52.55 | Adys | and nah it doesnt, its not an eliza bot |
| 16:53.26 | Shirik | This thing will have memory and a small enough knowledge base that it should be able to answer questions in detail |
| 16:53.50 | Shirik | The part I'm worried about is speech-to-text |
| 16:54.10 | Shirik | but that's not my part so I don't really care |
| 16:54.27 | amro | that should provide some hilarious transcripts |
| 16:54.37 | amro | make sure to implement extensive logging |
| 16:54.43 | Shirik | heh |
| 16:54.47 | Adys | I always thought NLP was more effective when it's about input-to-abstract rather than input-to-language |
| 16:54.53 | Shirik | it is |
| 16:55.00 | Shirik | but we put something in the middle |
| 16:55.06 | Adys | so why do you even worry about Speech to Text? |
| 16:55.14 | Shirik | Well because we support more than just speech |
| 16:55.21 | Adys | "so"? :P |
| 16:55.23 | Shirik | so first we translate the speech to text to make it in-line with everything else |
| 16:55.32 | Shirik | then it goes into the parser and becomes "abstract" as you call it |
| 16:55.52 | Shirik | and then it goes into the analyzer to actually figure out the response |
| 16:56.00 | Shirik | so there's just a piece in the middle |
| 16:56.12 | Shirik | the reason is we want the parser to be unaware of where the information came from, so we can attach any client to it |
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| 16:56.46 | Adys | Shirik, i know someone from mit working on nlp in python, if you're interested |
| 16:56.56 | Adys | if i understand correctly it's just a hobby project yeah? |
| 16:56.59 | Shirik | I bet he's using nltk |
| 16:57.05 | Shirik | no it's my graduate project :P |
| 16:57.07 | Adys | she, and no |
| 16:57.23 | Adys | ah |
| 16:57.29 | Shirik | it's ok though, I'm not worried about my part |
| 16:57.33 | Shirik | I'm worried about everyone else's parts |
| 16:57.44 | Adys | Cairenn, topic, quick |
| 16:57.44 | Shirik | for example, my repo is on build 28 |
| 16:57.52 | Shirik | others are on... like 2 |
| 16:57.54 | kd3 | lolol |
| 16:57.59 | Shirik | I hate you Adys |
| 16:58.01 | Adys | where's cairenn when you need that sort of stuff quoted |
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| 16:58.39 | amro | or teomyr |
| 17:02.24 | Adys | anyway |
| 17:02.28 | Adys | cide, where are you |
| 17:02.55 | Shirik | anyway what's really bugging me is that I'm using CORBA with Python |
| 17:03.02 | Shirik | and the generated interfaces really have no purpose |
| 17:03.32 | Shirik | unless it's doing instanceof() or something |
| 17:03.41 | Adys | isinstance |
| 17:03.41 | Adys | :( |
| 17:03.55 | Cide | here |
| 17:05.26 | Napoleone | hmm i know what this does. select(2,GetGuildRosterInfo(1) |
| 17:05.41 | Napoleone | but what i want is only that value at 2 not 2++ |
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| 17:07.42 | Napoleone | http://www.wowwiki.com/Lua_functions and http://www.wowwiki.com/API_select has 2 different explinations |
| 17:09.44 | Napoleone | nvm |
| 17:09.53 | Napoleone | me is stoopid |
| 17:19.36 | Arrowmaster | !api select |
| 17:19.36 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'select' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-select |
| 17:21.26 | mikma | anyone in beta eu ally here? need guildinvite! |
| 17:23.03 | Jamash | I have, right now, on my hard drive, three copies of wow (live, ptr, beta) totaling 55GB |
| 17:23.16 | Jamash | this is ridiculous |
| 17:23.29 | Napoleone | hah |
| 17:23.30 | Napoleone | i know |
| 17:23.58 | Napoleone | Jamash you got access to ptr atm? |
| 17:24.21 | Jamash | um, as far as I know |
| 17:24.29 | Jamash | is there something wrong with it? |
| 17:24.37 | Napoleone | have you noticed the prices on badge gear after the convertion? |
| 17:25.10 | Napoleone | arent they merged into justice points there? |
| 17:25.17 | Jamash | hmm, lemme see |
| 17:27.06 | Napoleone | cause should i upgrade my gear or wait ;P |
| 17:28.40 | cralor | hmm.. what FrameXML would be moving the DK runes upon entering a vehicle? looking through various files, can't find anything |
| 17:29.49 | Jamash | let's see, I have 602 Justice Points (stupid name imo) and T10 gloves cost 695 |
| 17:30.13 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 17:30.14 | Jamash | T10 helm is 1100 |
| 17:30.33 | Napoleone | then i hope you get more than 1 point pr badge ;P |
| 17:30.39 | Jamash | I didn't have all that many frost or conquest emblems when I transferred |
| 17:30.46 | Napoleone | and you get 1 point pr boss? |
| 17:30.49 | Jamash | there was a calculator posted a while ago |
| 17:30.57 | Napoleone | 1100 bosses to buy 1 lololol |
| 17:32.19 | Jamash | I think the idea is that like honor points, you get a variable amount depending on the difficulty of content |
| 17:32.22 | Napoleone | Your Justice Points total will be equal to (Emblems of Triumph + Emblems of Frost ) * 2.75 |
| 17:33.06 | Jamash | there you go |
| 17:33.08 | Napoleone | but the gear now then.. because i got 100 frost that wont even get me a 5th of it lol |
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| 17:35.04 | Jamash | yeah, hmm, looks like they multiplied costs by 11 but points by 2.75... that kinda sucks |
| 17:35.19 | Jamash | maybe the costs will be adjusted |
| 17:36.09 | Napoleone | arent there a gm in there? |
| 17:36.55 | Thrae | Odd, you'd think it'd be something more like (Emblems of Triumph + Emblems of Frost * 2), or 3, 4, etc. as Triumph is far easier to obtain and it's a lower tier. |
| 17:41.39 | Napoleone | ye |
| 17:41.47 | Napoleone | or tri*2 and frost *4 |
| 17:43.04 | Napoleone | specially when they are converting *11 |
| 17:44.28 | amro | the current tiers don't mean a damn |
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| 17:46.20 | Napoleone | are there gonna be t11? |
| 17:47.37 | mikma | anyone in beta eu ally here? need guildinvite! |
| 17:47.39 | mikma | wah |
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| 17:49.02 | Napoleone | 12 mins oculus.. love that speed ;P |
| 17:50.09 | olafski | yeah it's a nice quick dungeon :) |
| 17:50.12 | olafski | and more emblems too |
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| 17:51.04 | Jamash | I love logging in to cata with a copied character and having 60g repairs because they've upped the durability on lower armor types |
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| 17:51.15 | Napoleone | haha |
| 17:52.00 | olafski | :D |
| 17:52.12 | Jamash | OTOH I got 450g in the mail from old dead currency types so :P |
| 17:52.24 | Napoleone | Jamash are there blizz people on the ptr you can ask if you get in again? |
| 17:52.32 | Napoleone | cause that conversion doesnt seem taht optimal |
| 17:52.37 | Jamash | nope |
| 17:52.40 | Jamash | gotta post on the forums |
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| 17:54.32 | Napoleone | are they called hero and valor points now? |
| 17:55.02 | Jamash | justice and valor I think |
| 17:56.02 | Napoleone | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13200793915 |
| 17:56.02 | Napoleone | hero and valor there |
| 17:56.02 | A-KO | http://vimeo.com/10149605 |
| 17:57.27 | Jamash | troll language is now "Zandali" |
| 17:58.36 | Napoleone | zandalimon |
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| 18:03.54 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: http://gizmodo.com/5647605/turning-welchs-into-wine-in-48-hours |
| 18:06.05 | Lunessa | The author needs a lesson in physics. |
| 18:08.24 | Lunessa | But that looks like it might be fun for a party. |
| 18:09.18 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: or for a cheap (not so quick) buzz |
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| 18:10.31 | Lunessa | Not so cheap actually. Cost for the kit and the juice is about the same as you can get a bottle of decent wine around here. But... 64 oz of hilarity sounds like fun. |
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| 18:19.46 | cralor | what Blizzard files would deal with moving DK runes upon entering a vehicle? trying to prevent this from occurring. anyone know the file and/or frame I can Unregister |
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| 18:33.23 | RJohn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:35.18 | sylvanaar | Napoleone: cbreak amro - at the moment prat includes wholib to get around the 500 char limit in guilds on beta. all the data it keeps is flushed every time you change zones. thx |
| 18:35.55 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: make sure to play hardcore |
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| 18:41.13 | sylvanaar | Napoleone: cbreak amro my SV's are 2k so, idk what you guys are talking about |
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| 18:41.57 | cbreak | I am talking about that it's stupid to store massive ammounts of data that can easily be queried at runtime |
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| 18:42.05 | sylvanaar | thats what i do[ |
| 18:42.11 | sylvanaar | query at runtime |
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| 18:43.34 | Jamash | I think I just coughed up a lung |
| 18:46.22 | Napoleone | lol |
| 18:46.31 | NightHawkTheSane | you should put it back |
| 18:46.35 | NightHawkTheSane | those are important |
| 18:46.51 | Jamash | it slithered away |
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| 18:53.41 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i am such a sucker for the steam discounts |
| 18:54.16 | sylvanaar | me too |
| 18:54.37 | sylvanaar | what'd you get |
| 18:54.47 | Thunder_Child | the serious sam pack |
| 18:54.50 | Thunder_Child | the gold one |
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| 18:55.05 | sylvanaar | its a fun game |
| 18:55.23 | sylvanaar | $10 aint bad |
| 18:55.59 | Thunder_Child | i know, i played it back in the day when the first one came out |
| 18:57.46 | sylvanaar | Ackis: how is civ5 |
| 18:58.58 | Thunder_Child | civ 5 is quite fun |
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| 18:59.16 | Thunder_Child | but the requirements with settings maxed out are intense for such a game |
| 18:59.40 | Thunder_Child | and at some point, it takes longer for all of the computers turns than mine |
| 18:59.43 | Thunder_Child | which is rather anoying |
| 18:59.44 | Napoleone | in if statements. are there a isnot operator... |
| 18:59.49 | Napoleone | != or =! |
| 19:01.23 | Humbedooh | yes |
| 19:01.27 | Humbedooh | ~= |
| 19:01.27 | Jamash | lua> 1 ~= 1 |
| 19:01.27 | lua_bot | Jamash: false |
| 19:01.32 | Napoleone | aaah |
| 19:01.33 | mikma | if not not true |
| 19:01.37 | Napoleone | thanks |
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| 19:11.14 | Tuller | baconaise |
| 19:11.21 | Humbedooh | no! |
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| 19:16.50 | mikma | tuller: tullah! why two? |
| 19:17.14 | Tuller | because there's about to be three |
| 19:18.07 | mikma | so, OmniCC or tullaCC |
| 19:18.49 | Tuller | tullaCC is more or less omnicc, if you never change the defaults |
| 19:19.06 | mikma | so, OmniCC_Basic, or tullaCC? :D |
| 19:19.18 | zenzelezz | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/14713274742/blue-response-please/ o_O |
| 19:19.29 | Tuller | tullaCC is an updated basic :P |
| 19:19.51 | mikma | neat. so, when will we get tullaCC + Dominos_Buff combined? |
| 19:20.14 | Tuller | probably never, since I use inline aura |
| 19:20.24 | Tuller | you get tullaCC + tullaRange at least |
| 19:20.24 | mikma | eww |
| 19:20.53 | mikma | dominos_buff is way better than inline aura |
| 19:22.36 | Tuller | inline aura does timers, the old version does not |
| 19:22.59 | Tuller | dominos buffs rather does not |
| 19:23.06 | mikma | the buff-coloring is the only thing i want |
| 19:23.18 | mikma | inline auras did something that i did not like, can't remember what it was tho |
| 19:23.22 | Tuller | then yes, dominos_buffs is probably better :P |
| 19:23.36 | mikma | it showed something differently than omnicc+dominos_buff |
| 19:33.46 | Napoleone | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.02 | Napoleone | lua> tonumber("ff", 16); |
| 19:34.03 | lua_bot | Napoleone: 255 |
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| 19:37.22 | mikma | lua> tonumber("fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu") |
| 19:37.22 | lua_bot | mikma: nil |
| 19:37.28 | mikma | priceless |
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| 19:38.18 | mitchnull | anyone else having connection/lag issues on .eu? |
| 19:38.49 | Napoleone | a bit |
| 19:39.12 | mitchnull | sometimes I get 5-10 sec lag spikes then often a disconnect :( |
| 19:39.20 | mikma | mitchnull: my http://mikma.eu works just fine |
| 19:39.42 | mitchnull | mikma: diaf |
| 19:39.55 | mikma | mitchnull: ycdai |
| 19:40.54 | mitchnull | ENOSENSE |
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| 19:43.58 | mikma | cairenn: actionpumpo! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7PhS-bJXX0#t=1m55s |
| 19:44.54 | Cairenn | mikma: heh |
| 19:46.45 | Shirik | Cide, I've been told to put this at the bottom of my unit tests (and I have been), but what exactly does it do? |
| 19:46.52 | Shirik | if __name__ == '__main__': |
| 19:46.52 | Shirik | unittest.main() |
| 19:47.13 | Shirik | that's at the file level |
| 19:47.40 | amro | Shirik: that makes sure to only run that code if it's being invoked at toplevel |
| 19:47.42 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:47.44 | amro | and not when it's imported |
| 19:47.44 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:47.44 | Fisker | hey |
| 19:47.55 | Shirik | ok then what's going on with this |
| 19:48.03 | amro | so you can have a script that does shit when invoked directly while also acting as a module |
| 19:49.00 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/140925 |
| 19:49.07 | Shirik | I can't seem to create a TestParser object but I don't get why |
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| 19:49.24 | Shirik | it seems to try to call runTest but I didn't tell it to do that |
| 19:49.52 | Shirik | or maybe I'm reading the error wrong |
| 19:49.54 | Fisker | ready to Shirik |
| 19:51.02 | amro | Shirik: looks like your framework expects a runTest method |
| 19:51.25 | Shirik | bleh |
| 19:51.27 | Shirik | that's annoying |
| 19:51.30 | Shirik | and that's built into python |
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| 19:52.04 | Cide | just subclass it |
| 19:52.12 | Cide | and add it |
| 19:52.33 | Shirik | hm? |
| 19:52.42 | Shirik | I'm just trying to manually run one of the functions so I can run it in pdb |
| 19:52.49 | Cide | subclass TestCase |
| 19:53.03 | Cide | and add runTest() with some suitable default implementation |
| 19:53.03 | amro | he did |
| 19:53.15 | Cide | (21:51:01) amro: Shirik: looks like your framework expects a runTest method |
| 19:53.42 | Cide | I thought that implied he doesn't have one |
| 19:53.43 | Shirik | it works fine when I do `python ParserUnitTest.py` |
| 19:53.58 | Shirik | I guess I just can't instantiate it |
| 19:54.02 | Shirik | not directly at least |
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| 19:54.55 | Cide | I guess instantiation is the same as calling test.runTest() |
| 19:55.06 | amro | Shirik: I'm guessing unittest.main() does some setup |
| 19:55.24 | Shirik | I guess so |
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| 19:58.06 | lordgreg | hi everyone. dunno where else to go for an answer- my Skada damage meter doesnt show anything when testing dps on dummy in city. anyone knows why's that? |
| 19:58.54 | Mikk | client bug |
| 19:58.55 | Mikk | relog |
| 20:00.35 | lordgreg | k, lemme check if it works |
| 20:01.30 | lordgreg | nope, nothing |
| 20:03.48 | Humbedooh | does your combat log show anything? |
| 20:08.50 | mikma | relog means quit game and restart |
| 20:09.05 | mikma | combat log bugged and stopped from working |
| 20:09.27 | Humbedooh | don't need to relog if the log bugs |
| 20:09.52 | Humbedooh | ./script CombatLogClearEntries() |
| 20:09.58 | Humbedooh | should fix it in most cases |
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| 20:10.48 | mikma | i doubt that but hey, whatever drives your nuts |
| 20:12.27 | lordgreg | i'm sorry for late response.. |
| 20:12.35 | lordgreg | my combat log shows my dps output yes |
| 20:12.49 | lordgreg | i did a relog, reload, anything you can actually... |
| 20:13.00 | lordgreg | reinstall addon, clean that files in WTF folder |
| 20:13.02 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: where do you get the CE soundtrack from with steam? |
| 20:13.13 | mikma | maybe the target is tagged |
| 20:13.25 | EthanCentaurai | come to think of it, I personally have never seen DPS work on a dummy for me |
| 20:13.30 | EthanCentaurai | dummies are always tagged |
| 20:13.38 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: somewhere inside your file system |
| 20:13.52 | Humbedooh | is this on beta or wotlk, lordgreg? |
| 20:14.07 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: sarcasm? or generic? |
| 20:14.14 | lordgreg | no, its live realm Humbedooh. doesnt matter which dummy i target & shoot. |
| 20:14.29 | mikma | privateserver! |
| 20:14.29 | lordgreg | come to think, i dont remember, while questing/leveling skada would show anything either |
| 20:14.36 | lordgreg | its not private server! o_O |
| 20:14.44 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: The latter -- it downloads them to somewhere within its directory structure, but it never makes it totally clear |
| 20:14.52 | lordgreg | i've had recount before- it worked without a problem :) |
| 20:15.32 | Humbedooh | I just use TinyDPS nowadays - does what I need it to do without all the frizzle |
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| 20:16.24 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: for example, Steam\steamapps\common\dragon age origins\bonus\soundtrack |
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| 20:17.54 | Fisker | that file system is made up foxlit |
| 20:18.28 | Shirik | is there a way to tell git to overwrite with your file in a conflict? |
| 20:18.48 | mikma | man git |
| 20:19.01 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:19.03 | Shirik | I've been looking at it |
| 20:19.09 | Shirik | if git didn't have 5000 commands I might be able to find it |
| 20:19.13 | Fisker | git -? |
| 20:19.29 | mikma | try harder, you dirty french |
| 20:19.58 | Fisker | i'm just gonna kill you Shirik |
| 20:20.27 | mikma | i would bankick fisker so hard for that |
| 20:20.51 | Fisker | seems like a waste |
| 20:23.11 | haste | Shirik: you can tell git merge to prefer your copy |
| 20:23.31 | Shirik | but doesn't `git pull` do `git merge`? |
| 20:23.34 | Shirik | So by that time it's too late |
| 20:23.35 | amro | no |
| 20:23.37 | Shirik | what |
| 20:23.40 | Shirik | are you sure? |
| 20:23.42 | amro | yes |
| 20:23.45 | amro | pull and merge are separate |
| 20:23.53 | Fisker | that's why they are seperate commands |
| 20:23.55 | haste | git pull runs fetch and merge pretty much |
| 20:23.58 | Shirik | "Incorporates changes from a remote repository into the current branch. In its default mode, git pull is shorthand for git fetch followed by git merge FETCH_HEAD." |
| 20:24.02 | haste | you can reset your work copy however |
| 20:24.11 | haste | git reset --hard origin/master (if that's what you tried to pull) |
| 20:25.08 | Shirik | why is mercurial so much easier to use than git if it's the same concept.. I don't get that |
| 20:25.10 | Tuller | i just manually resolve the conflict, then do git add file |
| 20:25.12 | Tuller | then git merge |
| 20:25.29 | haste | if it helps Shirik, I find mercurial harder :P |
| 20:26.10 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:26.20 | Fisker | my stomach hurts :( |
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| 20:26.53 | haste | that's because I destroyed it Fisker |
| 20:27.15 | Jamash | if you had destroyed it it wouldn't hurt |
| 20:31.11 | mikma | shirik: git --actionpumpo |
| 20:31.11 | Jamash | git --offmylawn |
| 20:31.21 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:31.27 | mikma | git --goodnews |
| 20:31.38 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:31.39 | theorbtwo | Jamash++ |
| 20:31.41 | Fisker | i'm very awesome |
| 20:32.02 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: That is a good question |
| 20:32.14 | mikma | shirik: yeah, fisker is so awesome that your bankick soesnt work on him |
| 20:32.17 | foxlit | ~mikma-- |
| 20:32.22 | foxlit | "Unknown option: --goodnews" :( |
| 20:32.33 | haste | Jamash: and when people have to amputate limbs, they shouldn't feel them either, but yet they do |
| 20:32.51 | Jamash | so you're saying fisker has a phantom stomach |
| 20:32.52 | mikma | hney, i am getting fiskered here |
| 20:32.59 | haste | Jamash: yes |
| 20:33.09 | haste | that and he's bleeding to death |
| 20:33.54 | Jamash | s'ok, fisker has rage instead of blood |
| 20:36.27 | mikma | jamash: you heard the time when fisker went to donate some blood? at that day, in the same place, chuck norris was born. |
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| 20:38.29 | Ressy | The creators of sc2replayed are in here, yes? |
| 20:39.22 | Fisker | try #sc2replayed |
| 20:40.54 | Ressy | ahh |
| 20:40.56 | Ressy | ty :) |
| 20:42.21 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: It's in your install, steamapps/common/sid meier's civilization v/Assets/DLC/DLC_Deluxe/Soundtrack |
| 20:43.07 | Fisker | LOL |
| 20:43.09 | Fisker | deluxe editions |
| 20:43.32 | Fisker | (Would've gotten one if they weren't 10£ more in the UK) |
| 20:44.05 | foxlit | It's 5 eur, though? |
| 20:44.19 | Fisker | is euro, uk? |
| 20:44.30 | Fisker | stares blankly into foxlit |
| 20:44.39 | foxlit | so whatever scheme you're running with buying out-of-region seems dubious. |
| 20:44.54 | Fisker | baw |
| 20:45.00 | Fisker | not dubious at all |
| 20:45.14 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/app/8930/?cc=uk |
| 20:45.54 | Fisker | think they're mostly doing it to piss off people like me :( |
| 20:45.58 | Fisker | poor UK'ers though |
| 20:47.13 | foxlit | Meh, tooltips |
| 20:47.42 | foxlit | "Causes high damage at long range [...] Moves you closer to activating the next Eclipse. Use every time cooldown makes available." |
| 20:48.42 | Lunessa | Beginner's tooltips in beta? |
| 20:48.52 | foxlit | Yes. Where do I turn this lunacy off? |
| 20:49.04 | Lunessa | Help in interface options |
| 20:49.16 | foxlit | Their Interface Options UI is a bit of a failure when it comes to finding stuff |
| 20:49.25 | Lunessa | No shit . |
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| 20:49.43 | Lunessa | I was looking for something yesterday and could.not.find. it. |
| 20:51.12 | amro | not to mention they moved shit around over the years |
| 20:51.16 | Fisker | your googlefu is weak Lunessa |
| 20:51.26 | Fisker | even if it has nothing to do with searching on google |
| 20:51.29 | amro | your fu is weak Fisker |
| 20:51.31 | Lunessa | Fisker: FU |
| 20:51.35 | Fisker | no u |
| 20:51.39 | Fisker | or should i say |
| 20:51.41 | Fisker | NO FU |
| 20:51.43 | Fisker | GEDDIT! |
| 20:51.45 | Fisker | ? |
| 20:51.46 | amro | ~rimshot |
| 20:51.46 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 20:51.51 | Lunessa | Pucker up and grease up boy. |
| 20:52.02 | Fisker | i wish |
| 20:52.33 | foxlit | oh fs. |
| 20:52.41 | foxlit | I really should respec, this Sunfire crap is killing me. |
| 20:56.59 | Fisker | you shouldn't be a druid foxlit |
| 20:57.50 | foxlit | hm? |
| 20:58.19 | Fisker | shoots foxlit |
| 20:58.32 | foxlit | evades. |
| 20:58.41 | Fisker | shot foxlit |
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| 21:10.43 | Fisker | looks like i can't be stopped |
| 21:10.45 | Fisker | not by anyone |
| 21:10.49 | Fisker | not even dolby |
| 21:12.47 | Torhal | Why would anyone want to stop you from using your imagination? |
| 21:13.19 | Fisker | imma double robo colossus rush you Torhal |
| 21:14.55 | Torhal | Be that as it may, the fact remains that you're very sick Fisker. |
| 21:14.58 | Thunder_Child | Iriel, foxlit: thanks |
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| 21:20.55 | Thunder_Child | sadly the music was not as catch as was in 4 |
| 21:20.59 | Thunder_Child | catchy* |
| 21:21.40 | Iriel | Yeah |
| 21:21.48 | Iriel | So far that's been my feeling as well |
| 21:22.44 | Thunder_Child | hell the opening in 4 was so good vgl did it |
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| 21:26.09 | Iriel | It was by a 3rd party, IIRC |
| 21:26.50 | Dagmar | Needs more shovels. |
| 21:28.04 | Iriel | Dagmar: Minecraft? |
| 21:28.47 | Iriel | I'm very bitter, I had a lovely set of diamond implements (sword, pick, shovel) then fell in lava |
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| 21:30.11 | Legorol | Hi, my name is Legorol, and I'm a Minecraft addict. |
| 21:30.33 | Dagmar | Iriel: Tell me about it. A hole *I* left last night ate me, four buckets, two iron picks, about 100 torches, 2 diamond, about 30 redstone, 84 iron, 64 coal, two iron swords, and a compass. TWICE. |
| 21:30.46 | Legorol | I heard about it here, looked it up, watched videos, bought it, played it, lost my hours. |
| 21:30.55 | Dagmar | Third time around I bricked that fucker in. |
| 21:31.09 | haste | playes minecraft as immortal. |
| 21:31.16 | Dagmar | "I'll just find another lava flow" |
| 21:31.18 | haste | s/e// |
| 21:31.25 | haste | oh hi purl ! |
| 21:31.28 | haste | I think you failed |
| 21:31.31 | Legorol | Oh, did I just come online in the middle of an MC convo |
| 21:31.32 | Xinhuan | lol? |
| 21:31.37 | Legorol | This thing spreads like a wildfire.. |
| 21:31.52 | Xinhuan | minecraft author should add in a "Hardcore mode" |
| 21:31.55 | Xinhuan | just like diablo 2 |
| 21:31.57 | Xinhuan | YEP |
| 21:31.59 | haste | haha, no |
| 21:32.16 | haste | I fall down all the time while building stuff in the air :P |
| 21:32.26 | haste | usually because I relaese shift to type or check my inv. |
| 21:32.26 | Xinhuan | that's teach you :P |
| 21:32.41 | haste | I'm building over the water right now, np! |
| 21:32.44 | Xinhuan | to build a pool of water to fall into before doing skyscrapers! |
| 21:32.52 | haste | I'm playing as immortal anyway D: |
| 21:32.56 | Legorol | I am totally amazed at the pure genius of the game, despite its simplicity. The guy did deserve that 600k euro he made on it so far, and it's in *Alpha* still. Just wow. |
| 21:33.00 | Xinhuan | in fact that would be a good idea anyhow |
| 21:33.14 | haste | Legorol: he's probably made more, 600k was just after paypal locked his account |
| 21:33.17 | Legorol | haste: what's "immortal"? |
| 21:33.19 | Xinhuan | have lots of diving ponds so u can get down easily from multiple locations |
| 21:33.27 | haste | Legorol: I can't die |
| 21:33.29 | Legorol | O.o |
| 21:33.33 | Legorol | i didn't see such an option |
| 21:33.40 | Iriel | It's funny, one of my earliest assembly language programs was this little 3d world thing, it had 8 Z levels, and a 200 x 200 or so world, and you could edit and make tunnels (all isometric). |
| 21:33.45 | haste | it's probably something with server settings Legorol |
| 21:33.52 | haste | I play on a server with a bunch of friends |
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| 21:34.00 | Legorol | aha |
| 21:34.02 | haste | with trusted enabled |
| 21:34.07 | Iriel | But I spent hours playing with it, this brings back those fun times. |
| 21:34.11 | Legorol | haste, which is what? |
| 21:34.11 | haste | /give name 5 64 <3 |
| 21:34.14 | Legorol | I only played solo so far |
| 21:34.20 | haste | Legorol: I can spawn items |
| 21:34.26 | Legorol | meh, lame |
| 21:34.26 | haste | and teleport! |
| 21:34.33 | Legorol | I like the single-player survival mode |
| 21:34.47 | haste | I usually only spawn the toolbox, and possibly some wood if I'm 423423423423 miles into the water |
| 21:35.01 | Legorol | toolbox? what's that |
| 21:35.08 | haste | s/box/kit/ :V |
| 21:35.14 | Legorol | toolkit? what's that |
| 21:35.15 | haste | it's basically all the tools at highest quality |
| 21:35.21 | Galvin | If I remove enable-nolib-creation: no from the .pkgmeta do I have to change my toc file or does the packager take care of that? I have libs that my mod needs to work. |
| 21:35.21 | Legorol | lol |
| 21:35.25 | Iriel | That's cheating 8-) |
| 21:35.29 | haste | lies! |
| 21:35.30 | Legorol | so you spawn the most useful thing without having to mine... again, lame :P |
| 21:35.44 | haste | I mine a ton :P |
| 21:36.01 | haste | I could just abuse the durability bug to reset it tho' |
| 21:36.12 | haste | with the lowest quality tool that is |
| 21:36.21 | haste | but I mainly want to build, not farm tools |
| 21:36.21 | Legorol | So what is everyone's latest "oh cool idea, I should do that" moment? |
| 21:36.33 | haste | and earlier we didn't have server-side inventories |
| 21:36.39 | haste | so they reset every time you logged |
| 21:36.40 | Legorol | Mine: planting saplings whereever i farmed trees so that I didn't have to go far from my house. |
| 21:36.43 | Iriel | I'm in the process of building a glass domed underwater base |
| 21:36.45 | Legorol | Read that suggestion somewhere |
| 21:36.53 | haste | which makes you kinda hate farming new tools every time you want to play :P |
| 21:37.11 | Legorol | haste: then what's the point of playing survival, why not play classic? |
| 21:37.11 | Tuller | underwater base sounds good times |
| 21:37.17 | Legorol | the whole point is being limited |
| 21:37.22 | haste | Legorol: we play together! |
| 21:37.36 | Legorol | Iriel: yah that's neat idea too |
| 21:37.37 | Iriel | Multiplayer is pretty fun, i've only done a tinybit of it though |
| 21:37.37 | haste | we're like ten people on one of the servers |
| 21:37.52 | Iriel | The MP seemed kinda glitchy tho |
| 21:37.53 | haste | no idea how many on the public one |
| 21:38.10 | Legorol | Anyway, I hate you all for addicting me to this game... if I wasn't chilling here, I wouldn't have lost all those hours and maybe my paladin would be 80 now. |
| 21:38.29 | Iriel | Minecraft + Civ V is a **BAD** combination too |
| 21:38.31 | haste | anyway, building a UFO next to my castle atm |
| 21:38.36 | Legorol | Iriel: which one loses :o) |
| 21:38.39 | haste | with a water elevator d: |
| 21:38.41 | Legorol | I didn't even buy Civ 5 |
| 21:38.44 | haste | so it can beam people up! |
| 21:38.49 | Xinhuan | civ5 is newer and shinier! |
| 21:38.50 | Iriel | Well, Civ is turn based, and I play them on different machines |
| 21:38.56 | Legorol | LOL |
| 21:39.04 | haste | I havne't played Civilization since... Civ2 |
| 21:39.08 | Iriel | My inter-turn time ends up being excessively long |
| 21:39.15 | Legorol | nice solution :) |
| 21:39.20 | haste | was pondering if I should buy Civ5, but Civ2 absorbed a scary amount of time |
| 21:39.25 | Xinhuan | mikma |
| 21:40.13 | Tuller | civ5 makes my quad core cry |
| 21:40.20 | Legorol | At least one good thing came out of playing MC: I resolved an issue with my laptops Intel integrated graphics. |
| 21:40.53 | Legorol | Minecraft wasn't running, because the drivers were too old. Intel did have updated drivers, but those were generic ones.. and refused to install over the branded Dell drivers which are age-old. |
| 21:41.08 | Legorol | Of course Dell never bothered to release updated versions of the drivers, so I was stuck. |
| 21:41.10 | haste | http://beverpung.net/images/games/mc/2010-09-25-010949_1680x1050_scrot.png WARP SPEED! |
| 21:41.41 | Legorol | all resolved now though, so one more useless tidbit of windows-ing for my archives |
| 21:42.27 | Legorol | mm, speaking of Minecraft... |
| 21:42.30 | Legorol | launches the client |
| 21:43.11 | haste | has it running in the background _all_ the time. |
| 21:44.50 | Dagmar | Makes the trees grow BEEG |
| 21:45.04 | Dagmar | ...and does wonders for your greenhouse. |
| 21:45.50 | Dagmar | It's a shame drops despawn after a bit or I'd have a whole monster loot farm built by now |
| 21:45.52 | Fisker | why would you do that haste ? |
| 21:45.55 | Fisker | minecraft sucks |
| 21:46.18 | Iriel | I wish the server wasn't such a dog |
| 21:46.35 | Iriel | or i'd try keeping one running |
| 21:46.47 | Legorol | haste, Dagmar, how do you keep the game progressing in the background? |
| 21:46.57 | Legorol | if I alt-tab, the menu pops up and the game pauses automatically |
| 21:47.22 | Legorol | presumably it detects losing focus |
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| 21:50.29 | Tuller | my workaround: open up my inventory |
| 21:50.40 | Xinhuan | it does detect losing focus |
| 21:50.44 | Xinhuan | so you can't really multibox |
| 21:50.58 | Iriel | Xinhuan: you can, you just need more than one box 8-) |
| 21:51.11 | Xinhuan | that would be multi-cpu-box |
| 21:51.12 | Xinhuan | :D |
| 21:51.21 | Xinhuan | ok bad |
| 21:51.34 | Iriel | You can't multi-client-one-box |
| 21:51.43 | Fisker | lol @ mozilla's sunbird concept |
| 21:51.45 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 21:51.57 | Fisker | their phone is running windows 7 and android at the same time! |
| 21:52.05 | Fisker | and with aero functionality! |
| 21:52.09 | Fisker | That's one bitching mobile phone |
| 21:52.12 | Fisker | (herp derp) |
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| 21:54.18 | haste | Legorol: I'm playing on a server |
| 21:54.27 | haste | never single-player |
| 21:54.44 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: yes you can |
| 21:54.56 | Fisker | double haste across norway |
| 21:55.07 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: err..nvm |
| 21:55.25 | Iriel | WTF it spawned me underwater (new world, multiplayer) |
| 21:55.38 | Thunder_Child | nice, it's truly random |
| 21:55.41 | Fisker | swim like the wind Iriel |
| 21:56.17 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: how well exactly does the wind swim? |
| 21:58.42 | Fisker | how does anything swim? |
| 22:00.02 | Iriel | Is the "season" a world parameter, or does a single world have both seasons in differnet locations? |
| 22:00.06 | Legorol | Iriel: you playing with friends, or on a completely random server |
| 22:00.28 | Iriel | I was just firing up a local server to play with the server setup on a less crappy machine than my usual server |
| 22:01.49 | Dagmar | Iriel: AFAIK if you get a snowy world, the whole thing is always snow |
| 22:02.33 | Iriel | I |
| 22:02.34 | Iriel | , |
| 22:02.39 | Iriel | I'm trying to get it to generate me one |
| 22:02.49 | Iriel | I kind of like snow better, now I know what i'm doing |
| 22:03.07 | Dagmar | Somewhere inside the saves is a really obvious variable to change a world to do that (found out in the forums) |
| 22:03.42 | Iriel | Deleting and re-creating my world a few times did the trick |
| 22:04.01 | Iriel | Is there any concept of 'ownership |
| 22:04.04 | Iriel | in MP? |
| 22:05.16 | Thunder_Child | i.hate.you.all. |
| 22:05.24 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 22:05.24 | Dagmar | Iriel: Nope |
| 22:05.25 | Fisker | hello |
| 22:05.33 | Fisker | you shouldn't be a hater |
| 22:05.41 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: i knew that would cal to your heart of coals |
| 22:06.43 | Fisker | i'm bored |
| 22:06.46 | Xinhuan | nope, that's why its truly a sandbox |
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| 22:08.32 | Dagmar | Iriel: it's _tedious_ but if the server allows you to bucket lava and water, you can use these to create obsidian blocks, which are ludicrous to break. |
| 22:08.43 | Dagmar | Something like fifteen minutes with a diamond pick |
| 22:10.02 | Xinhuan | hmm beta server restart |
| 22:10.06 | Xinhuan | wonder if its a new build |
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| 22:11.40 | Iriel | http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/MC-Ooh.jpg |
| 22:11.43 | Iriel | Interesting |
| 22:11.56 | Iriel | I just found that in my new world, swimming around |
| 22:12.05 | Iriel | (Well, I should say, walking around over the frozen sea) |
| 22:12.35 | haste | noes, it's night :( |
| 22:12.55 | nevcairiel | haste: well, yes? |
| 22:13.32 | nevcairiel | how did you notice? :d |
| 22:14.44 | haste | in minecraft! |
| 22:34.46 | Dagmar | HANDY! |
| 22:36.44 | Dagmar | I'm workin' on a dock so I've a place to put a boat and head out to sea |
| 22:36.54 | zenzelezz | "Case in point: what happens if you put your hand in the beam of the Large Hadron Collider?" - http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/09/21/dont-cross-the-lhc-stream/ |
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| 23:00.11 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: interesting. but all of them are physicists, not engineers. because the answer would be nothing. |
| 23:03.43 | Jamash | you gain SUPER PARTICLE POWERS |
| 23:04.38 | Torhal | Seerah|away: There's someone in my guild named Searuh. Heh. |
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| 23:26.48 | Legorol | You guys seen this? Amazingly cool fanmade trailer for Minecraft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaMTedT6P0I |
| 23:26.51 | Legorol | It really is worth a watch |
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| 23:31.07 | Thunder_Child | wtb AC |
| 23:31.21 | Jamash | air conditioning? asheron's call? |
| 23:31.49 | Thunder_Child | the first |
| 23:32.01 | Thunder_Child | and logmein crashed FF yet again |
| 23:37.13 | Arrowmaster | i still dont get the obsession with minecraft |
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| 23:38.33 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 23:38.46 | Xinhuan | how does wowhead have build 13066 data |
| 23:39.11 | Jamash | how doesn't it? |
| 23:40.47 | Jamash | I assume that they watch the download site for builds that have been posted but not yet enabled for the client |
| 23:41.22 | Xinhuan | what download site |
| 23:41.48 | Jamash | the http seed |
| 23:42.43 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: i know, but for the $14 in case it becomes really awesome i figured, what the hell |
| 23:43.25 | Jamash | I thought it was only $9? |
| 23:43.35 | Thunder_Child | in euros |
| 23:44.21 | Jamash | narf? |
| 23:44.31 | Legorol | Thunder_Child: i think the $14 is already worth it, considering the amount of time I spent with it |
| 23:44.32 | Thunder_Child | what? |
| 23:44.42 | Thunder_Child | Legorol: i only spent a few min with it |
| 23:44.50 | Legorol | :( |
| 23:44.52 | Thunder_Child | but then thats because i am working |
| 23:44.56 | Thunder_Child | on a saturday |
| 23:44.58 | Thunder_Child | fml |
| 23:45.00 | Legorol | week |
| 23:45.08 | Legorol | s/ee/ea/ |
| 23:45.49 | Thunder_Child | well, it has to get done before oct. 1st and this weekend is the best time |
| 23:50.13 | foxlit | zenzelezz: Hey, awesome video |
| 23:50.22 | foxlit | I wonder if they podcast. |
| 23:52.21 | Jamash | I should really leave trade chat when trying to work on my addon |
| 23:52.36 | foxlit | Jamash: you should really just leave trade chat. |
| 23:53.06 | Jamash | there is truth in what you say |
| 23:54.36 | Thunder_Child | i enjoy trade chat. though in my case, i never really feel the need to say anything. |
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