| 00:00.06 | Kraps | Adys: it looks like a puzzle game |
| 00:00.08 | TC-Work | but i already baught games i havent finished yet |
| 00:00.12 | TC-Work | bought* |
| 00:00.36 | TC-Work | Kraps: worms is not puzzle |
| 00:00.44 | Adys | Kraps: it's a turn-based shooter |
| 00:00.47 | Adys | 2d |
| 00:00.58 | Kraps | i suck at civ |
| 00:01.07 | Adys | it's nothing like civ |
| 00:01.45 | Adys | Kraps: just buy it tbh |
| 00:01.56 | Kraps | maybe |
| 00:02.17 | Kraps | i also have a ton of unfinished games |
| 00:03.25 | Cide | so do I |
| 00:03.27 | Cide | worms is one of them |
| 00:03.40 | SqueeG | still need to end arkham asylum... |
| 00:03.43 | SqueeG | i'm so close |
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| 00:04.11 | Adys | worms has a very small campain |
| 00:04.17 | Adys | other than that it's not "finishable" |
| 00:04.26 | SqueeG | it has a campaign? O_o |
| 00:04.32 | Adys | worms reloaded does |
| 00:04.33 | amro | worms can feel like a puzzle game in that there's an optimal solution to any given situation |
| 00:04.37 | amro | but it's very dynamic |
| 00:04.39 | amro | and not repetitive |
| 00:06.04 | Adys | Kraps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4an9abu_GT4 |
| 00:06.06 | Adys | gameplay video |
| 00:12.31 | DWSR | I like how they use the music from Fire Emblem |
| 00:15.13 | Kraps | Adys: looks cool |
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| 00:38.40 | Dagmar | Sheesh |
| 00:38.53 | Dagmar | I guess we can just kiss evem the $60 price point on games goodbye now |
| 00:39.31 | Dagmar | Having four DLCs drop less than two weeks after a game's release is just plain shaving some stuff off the top to sell the rubes later\ |
| 00:40.44 | SqueeG | wtf |
| 00:40.47 | SqueeG | what game is that? |
| 00:42.11 | Dagmar | Kane & Lynch 2 now has (sorry not four) three DLCs sitting there on Steam released yesterday |
| 00:42.35 | Dagmar | Kane & Lynch 2 was released on the 17th of August. |
| 00:42.58 | SqueeG | and they're all pay fors? |
| 00:43.03 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 00:43.09 | SqueeG | ... |
| 00:43.25 | Dagmar | So the game is $50, the DLCs are $6, $3, and $2. |
| 00:43.54 | Dagmar | Nothin like pissing off your best non-pirate customers by shafting them for a single fucking dollar |
| 00:44.31 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: ping? |
| 00:44.45 | p3lim | any of you know if its possible to hide the caret from an editbox? |
| 00:44.58 | KarlKFI|work | Dagmar: at least it doesnt require xbox live |
| 00:44.58 | Dagmar | Hide the what? |
| 00:45.04 | p3lim | could only find SetBlinkSpeed() |
| 00:45.12 | Dagmar | KarlKFI: Oh yeah the new fee schedule there... very cool |
| 00:45.26 | KarlKFI|work | the insert line |
| 00:45.36 | KarlKFI|work | doesn't really have carets any more |
| 00:45.38 | p3lim | the caret, text insert thingy |
| 00:45.43 | Dagmar | "ESPN is expensive. Nevermind that most of you geeks don't give two shits about sports and that's why you're playng video games in the first place, but we need to charge you more now!" |
| 00:45.54 | Dagmar | p3lim: Do you mean the cursor? |
| 00:45.57 | p3lim | sure |
| 00:46.14 | Dagmar | Looks like | and stuff? |
| 00:46.16 | p3lim | yeah |
| 00:46.21 | Dagmar | Yeah it's the cursor. |
| 00:46.31 | p3lim | they call it the caret in notepad++ :) |
| 00:46.38 | KarlKFI|work | technically it used to have carets on top and bottom |
| 00:46.59 | Dagmar | They're not real smart over there then. "^" is a caret. |
| 00:47.29 | p3lim | anyways, is it possible to hide it? |
| 00:47.29 | Dagmar | Why would you want to hide the cursor? Would you like it to be a suprise where the text shows up"? |
| 00:47.35 | KarlKFI|work | "^" looks more like a caret trowing up peace signs |
| 00:47.49 | p3lim | KarlKFI: lol |
| 00:47.57 | Dagmar | No, you mean ""^"" does\ |
| 00:48.02 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 00:48.14 | KarlKFI|work | um.. no that's a dobule vulcan salute |
| 00:48.27 | SqueeG | wait |
| 00:48.34 | SqueeG | are they upping the xbow live sub? |
| 00:48.36 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: ping? |
| 00:48.36 | p3lim | Dagmar: i just want it gone |
| 00:48.39 | KarlKFI|work | yes |
| 00:48.50 | KarlKFI|work | p3lim: not that i'm away of |
| 00:48.50 | SqueeG | what the fuck? |
| 00:48.53 | SqueeG | how much? |
| 00:48.54 | KarlKFI|work | aware* |
| 00:49.14 | KarlKFI|work | you can hide it by removing focus i think |
| 00:49.21 | p3lim | SqueeG: not that much |
| 00:49.26 | KarlKFI|work | or making it uneditable |
| 00:49.31 | Dagmar | SqueeG: Yep. $9.99 a month |
| 00:49.45 | p3lim | KarlKFI: I still need to have the editbox usable |
| 00:49.50 | SqueeG | isn't that the normal rate? |
| 00:49.51 | Dagmar | The cursor should be disappearing when the widget loses focus |
| 00:49.54 | SqueeG | wait... |
| 00:49.56 | SqueeG | *thinks* |
| 00:50.03 | Dagmar | SqueeG: No, it was supposed to be $7.99 or something. |
| 00:50.11 | SqueeG | i've hit so many 'specials' on the subscription i can't remember the original :p |
| 00:50.12 | p3lim | Dagmar: but while it has focus |
| 00:50.13 | SqueeG | that's bullshit |
| 00:50.20 | KarlKFI|work | p3lim: dont think it's possible |
| 00:50.22 | SqueeG | live doesn't do anything accept connect you TO a network |
| 00:50.29 | SqueeG | you need to pay for every fucking thing anyway |
| 00:50.30 | p3lim | atleast let me change the width of it :/ |
| 00:50.36 | Dagmar | Ah but live "gold" makes you speshul\ |
| 00:50.40 | p3lim | stupid api.. |
| 00:50.58 | KarlKFI|work | ~wowprogramming editbox |
| 00:51.09 | KarlKFI|work | !wowprogramming editbox |
| 00:51.13 | KarlKFI|work | hmmm |
| 00:51.43 | Dagmar | SqueeG: http://majornelson.com/archive/2010/08/30/price-change-for-xbox-live-gold-subscription.aspx |
| 00:51.46 | Dagmar | BEHOLD! |
| 00:51.53 | KarlKFI|work | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets#editbox |
| 00:52.07 | SqueeG | they don't even host thebloody multiplayer games |
| 00:52.11 | SqueeG | individuals do |
| 00:52.50 | SqueeG | i hate ESPN so much |
| 00:52.56 | Jamash | so this here beta here is up now |
| 00:53.00 | Dagmar | SqueeG: And since so many people are willing to pay Microsoft for that, now that they're _locked in because it's too late to return the machine to the store and buy a PS3_ it's time to start increasing the fees. |
| 00:53.15 | SqueeG | PS3 blows :P |
| 00:53.17 | Dagmar | Did you perhaps forget that this is Microsoft you're dealing with? |
| 00:53.21 | cog|away | Jamash: addons enabled? |
| 00:53.26 | Jamash | dunno still loading in |
| 00:53.35 | p3lim | KarlKFI: yeah ive looked through it |
| 00:53.36 | Dagmar | SqueeG: Cpet I don't have to pay anyone money to play multiplayer |
| 00:53.51 | KarlKFI|work | if it aint there it likely doesn't exist |
| 00:54.00 | SqueeG | and you get to gamble with whether or not your whole system will die with each 'upgrade' :D |
| 00:54.10 | p3lim | I don't have any games that I really play on XBL so I don't care :) |
| 00:54.14 | Kraps | SqueeG dony hate on ESPN |
| 00:54.24 | SqueeG | ESPN is bullshit |
| 00:54.35 | SqueeG | i've seen them price gouge a bunch of things |
| 00:54.35 | Dagmar | Frankly, I think Microsoft Games division is looking to hedge their funds to hide the fact that their motion controller and 3D efforts are going to lose them a pile |
| 00:54.36 | Kraps | no |
| 00:54.37 | cogwheel | doesn't look like it |
| 00:54.48 | p3lim | My first XB was the new "slim", so I've got just 4 games (RDR, Alan Wake, ME2, Bayonetta) |
| 00:54.56 | Dagmar | At least with Sony people are used to them screwing it up hald the time |
| 00:55.07 | p3lim | Got it like 2 months ago or smt |
| 00:55.28 | KarlKFI|work | Sony execs are completely disconnected with reality |
| 00:55.35 | SqueeG | they are |
| 00:55.37 | amro | am I the only one who thinks kinect is the worst peripheral name ever? |
| 00:55.43 | SqueeG | it's sad that they took over square-enix |
| 00:55.50 | KarlKFI|work | granted Balmer needs to get shitcanned |
| 00:55.56 | Dagmar | Playstation 3D: One $45 controller, the $45 camera, oh and one new $4500 televison |
| 00:55.58 | Dagmar | Yay |
| 00:56.00 | p3lim | need a new game though, went trough all the ones I have |
| 00:56.11 | cogwheel | "tip: you can download free programs to regularly scan your machine for malicious software including keyloggers" ... another tip... Make sure the free programs you download aren't keyloggers themselves -_- |
| 00:56.24 | amro | shh, cogwheel |
| 00:56.28 | amro | you'll expose my master plan |
| 00:56.29 | Jamash | amro: it is a terrible name, yeah |
| 00:56.29 | p3lim | I know Halo: Reach is coming soon too, but I'm unsure if I should get it or not, I havent played any of the prequals |
| 00:56.33 | SqueeG | they're suppose to be coming out with 3d tvs that don't require the retarded glasses |
| 00:56.43 | A-KO | Is it just me or does beta fucking suck now with this stupid loading BS? |
| 00:56.54 | Dagmar | Squeeg: Oh yes. Those cost something generally described as "a goddamn fortune" |
| 00:56.57 | KarlKFI|work | YOUR COMPUTER IS INFECTED CLICK _HERE_ TO FIX IT |
| 00:57.11 | SqueeG | Dagmar: true |
| 00:57.15 | Jamash | addons appear to be enabled |
| 00:57.19 | Kraps | KarlKFI|work: YOU HAVE 3 NEW MESSAGES |
| 00:57.20 | SqueeG | but the fact that it's possible, is really nifty |
| 00:57.25 | Jamash | sort of |
| 00:57.32 | SqueeG | and it'll onyl be about 5 years before they're affordable, if it does catch on |
| 00:57.35 | Dagmar | Squeeg: You're not going to like the limitations on it |
| 00:57.49 | cogwheel | KarlKFI|work: Hot Irvine Singles! Click Here! |
| 00:57.51 | Dagmar | You literally need to be sitting in the 15 degree arc of directly in front of the thing |
| 00:57.52 | Kraps | i love how those banners have NO FUCKING CONTEXT AT ALL |
| 00:57.54 | SqueeG | Dagmar: limitations on what? 3D tv? |
| 00:58.01 | SqueeG | didn't say i'd buy one, i'm po' :p |
| 00:58.21 | Dagmar | I'll say this... |
| 00:58.22 | SqueeG | hey hey hey... it's progress |
| 00:58.31 | SqueeG | no effing glasses is big progress |
| 00:58.39 | Dagmar | Whatever mechanism the porno people get behind is the one that'll win. |
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| 00:58.42 | Jamash | it seems that /dump and /run are still out, but it shouldn't be that much trouble to get that functionality |
| 00:58.45 | SqueeG | we're *this* much closer to holographic communications man ;) |
| 00:58.51 | p3lim | beta is up again? |
| 00:58.57 | Jamash | beta is up and addons are in |
| 00:59.00 | cogwheel | i'm with you SqueeG |
| 00:59.02 | KarlKFI|work | cogwheel: "Increase your size! She'll Finally Love You!" |
| 00:59.07 | p3lim | ok |
| 00:59.09 | Jamash | now is the time to rejoice |
| 00:59.12 | cogwheel | Jamash: my addons button didn't show up *sigh* |
| 00:59.32 | cogwheel | but it's crashing like clockwork for me so i don't really care -_- |
| 00:59.46 | Jamash | did you delete your data cache? |
| 00:59.51 | Kraps | Dagmar: yeah, when i heard that about VHS i was "woah" |
| 01:00.15 | SqueeG | Dagmar: porn is all about the 3d |
| 01:00.19 | SqueeG | they love the concept |
| 01:00.21 | Dagmar | Kraps: No one wants to really admit it, but PORN is what drives new audiovideo technology adoption |
| 01:00.24 | Jamash | I was having terrible crashing issues until I deleted "World of Warcraft Beta\Data\Cache" |
| 01:00.28 | SqueeG | some have already invested in trying out 3d cameras |
| 01:00.52 | Dagmar | Kraps: That's part of how HD-DVD shot thsemselves in the face |
| 01:00.55 | KarlKFI|work | vido more than audio Dagmar |
| 01:01.02 | cogwheel | Dagmar: i wouldn't say "no one" |
| 01:01.16 | Dagmar | At least hte Blu-Ray people just put limits on what percentage of resources could be used for making pornos |
| 01:01.42 | Kraps | hows that? |
| 01:01.47 | cogwheel | "at least"? |
| 01:01.51 | Dagmar | They had a concern that the porn brokers would tie up all the disc plants, and get the platform the image that it's _just_ for porn |
| 01:02.03 | Kraps | lol wow |
| 01:02.03 | Dagmar | HD-DVD wouldn't let 'em make porn discs at first |
| 01:02.07 | cogwheel | so they were worried about their market being too big? |
| 01:02.11 | cogwheel | how is that a problem?? |
| 01:02.11 | cogwheel | >< |
| 01:02.15 | kd3|netbook | because it's porn |
| 01:02.22 | kd3|netbook | the southern baptists will be up in arms |
| 01:02.24 | kd3|netbook | yawns |
| 01:02.25 | Dagmar | No they were being puritanical about getting a bad rep |
| 01:02.36 | p3lim | going to wait a little while with the 4.0 update mess |
| 01:02.36 | cogwheel | capitalism fail |
| 01:02.41 | cogwheel | (as in they fail at it) |
| 01:03.08 | KarlKFI|work | kd3: i think the mormons care more |
| 01:03.16 | Dagmar | kd3: the southern baptists would probably try to negotiate a group discount |
| 01:03.23 | SqueeG | lol |
| 01:03.50 | cogwheel | mormons too, at least in private |
| 01:03.55 | KarlKFI|work | ^^ |
| 01:04.03 | SqueeG | what would it say about people buying bluray players if it was associated with being 'just a porn product'? |
| 01:04.13 | Kraps | isnt porn + movies a bigger market than just porn? |
| 01:04.17 | KarlKFI|work | in public you mean |
| 01:04.24 | Dagmar | Remember the Classic Cat? Their biggest weeks of the year was forever the weeks that the Baptist Convention was in town and the Methodist Convention |
| 01:04.33 | KarlKFI|work | holywood movies is a pretty big market |
| 01:04.41 | Kraps | ^ |
| 01:04.43 | SqueeG | yea |
| 01:04.48 | Dagmar | They're also a very slow market compared to porno |
| 01:04.54 | SqueeG | everyone rushing to change over their vast collections of movies |
| 01:05.04 | SqueeG | there are people stupid enough to start at peak pricing |
| 01:05.30 | SqueeG | well |
| 01:05.33 | SqueeG | maybe not stupid |
| 01:05.35 | KarlKFI|work | i dont buy bluerays for over $10. that shit;s lame |
| 01:05.36 | SqueeG | fortunate? |
| 01:05.45 | SqueeG | i don't buy blurays :p |
| 01:05.47 | cogwheel | for even more extreme examples, hardcore muslim countries have the highest search rates for things like "child rape videos" "human dog sex" etc... |
| 01:06.01 | KarlKFI|work | repression |
| 01:06.09 | SqueeG | as long as the FCC holds off bandwidth capping, i'm fine with digital DLs |
| 01:06.21 | Kraps | cogwheel: sauce? |
| 01:06.28 | KarlKFI|work | FCC needs to turn the ISPs into dumb pipes |
| 01:06.28 | Dagmar | Squeeg: Perhaps you missed that memo |
| 01:06.43 | KarlKFI|work | so i can get my fiber |
| 01:06.50 | SqueeG | cogwheel: that's jus the gov't authority looking around, to cleanse the internet of heathen videos! |
| 01:06.53 | Dagmar | "umlimited" internet hasn't been actually unlimited in over a decade |
| 01:07.20 | SqueeG | There aren't any caps by me |
| 01:07.26 | Dagmar | Australia has retarded bandwidth fees. |
| 01:07.50 | Dagmar | Comcast in the states is capping at 250Gb/month (which seems reasonable right now but wait ten years and they won't have raised it) |
| 01:08.06 | Jamash | I want google gigabit fiber |
| 01:08.19 | SqueeG | yea but comcast has blown since...forever |
| 01:08.29 | Jerub | Dagmar: only retarded by your standards. we're a long way from a lot of people and most data is coming from overseas. |
| 01:08.49 | Dagmar | Jerub: I am quite aware of your connectivity. |
| 01:08.50 | Jamash | I'm pretty sure they're just retarded |
| 01:08.58 | Jerub | your net neutrality bullshit that's running around within the north american continent that's got everyone up in arms is something that's uniquely a north american concept. |
| 01:09.04 | Dagmar | iAsiaWorks, the company I was working for during the dot-com boom _started_ in Australia |
| 01:09.13 | SqueeG | free market works |
| 01:09.14 | Jerub | you've been fucking the rest of the world being very un-neutral for decades. |
| 01:09.20 | Jamash | free market is a myth |
| 01:10.03 | Dagmar | Agreed. |
| 01:10.19 | Dagmar | There's _always_ bad actors looking to manipulate it to their exclusive advantage. |
| 01:11.22 | Kraps | Jerub: if it does pass, it might be what causes people to burn down the Capitol, and thats always a plus |
| 01:11.42 | Dagmar | Burn down because of what? |
| 01:11.53 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.08 | Dagmar | Fuck that |
| 01:12.18 | Dagmar | That real estate didn't do anyone any harm. It's not to blame. |
| 01:12.27 | Dagmar | Plus there's like janitorial staff who have bills to pay. |
| 01:13.04 | Dagmar | Now, tearing some bribe-taking lobbyist-whoring politicians to pieces with your bare hands as part of an angry mob sick to death of political corruption... now THAT will make a difference. |
| 01:13.27 | Jamash | I'm sorry, why would net neutrality cause people to burn down the capitol? |
| 01:13.30 | Kraps | Dagmar: well, i wont advocate killing people |
| 01:13.31 | Dagmar | Fire is a tool for people afraid to get their hands dirty. |
| 01:13.39 | Jerub | sorry, i'm still lolling. |
| 01:13.43 | Dagmar | Kraps: They're not people. |
| 01:14.50 | Dagmar | Jamash: because it's the best thing the human race has invented in 30 years and big business is about to fuck it up forever |
| 01:15.24 | Dagmar | We've been fighting it being turned into just another one-way medium for decades now |
| 01:16.23 | Dagmar | if the cable companies and TV networks and media outlets want to keep everyone else from broadcasting data, let them build their OWN goddamn network |
| 01:17.02 | Dagmar | After all, it worked so well in the past |
| 01:17.24 | Dagmar | CompuServe and GEnie will never die |
| 01:17.26 | Dagmar | owait |
| 01:20.22 | Xyphoid | recommendations for web-based combat log analysers? |
| 01:21.00 | Dagmar | worldoflogs is hte only one I've used |
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| 01:22.37 | Jerub | Dagmar: you're paranoid about it being 'fucked up forever' by making it the same in NA as it is in the rest of the world. |
| 01:22.41 | Jerub | Dagmar: meh. |
| 01:23.04 | Dagmar | Jerub: Because frankly, the business models we create here spread to the rest of hte world |
| 01:23.13 | Dagmar | Like virii |
| 01:23.14 | SqueeG | Dagmar: agreed |
| 01:23.15 | Jerub | no, it didn't. |
| 01:23.26 | Dagmar | This is something that will spread if they make it profitable here. |
| 01:23.58 | Jerub | in the rest of the world bandwidth is expensive, peering is spare and asymmetric, and that's spreading /to/ you not spreading /away/ from you. |
| 01:24.02 | Dagmar | ...because at the end of the day, big media conglomerates do not give a microscopic shit about their customers wants. |
| 01:24.13 | Dagmar | That's why they call them "consumers" and not "customers" |
| 01:24.15 | Jerub | it's rationalising, slowly, in places where we have it bad (australia). |
| 01:24.24 | SqueeG | then modernize |
| 01:24.46 | SqueeG | letting shit rot for decades, then bitching that it's expensive to maintain, is utter crap |
| 01:24.54 | Ressy | Interesting. Had to turn off all sound to be able to log in. |
| 01:24.55 | Jerub | SqueeG: i don't even know why you said that, or why it's relevent. |
| 01:24.58 | Dagmar | SqueeG: That's the telephone company way |
| 01:25.00 | SqueeG | ridiculous taxes don't help either |
| 01:25.19 | Kraps | blackout of '03 |
| 01:25.27 | SqueeG | and look how phone companies scrambled when the cable industry moved into the market |
| 01:25.36 | Dagmar | Jerub: Your biggest problem is that you're _way on the other side of the goddamn planet_ from everyone else who speaks English |
| 01:25.58 | Dagmar | Undersea fiber is horrifyingly expensive to run |
| 01:25.58 | SqueeG | ....eh |
| 01:26.15 | SqueeG | and undersea fiber is ill-maintained at best |
| 01:26.26 | SqueeG | AND the coastal hubs are ancient |
| 01:26.31 | SqueeG | AND horribly maintained :p |
| 01:26.40 | Jerub | Dagmar: i'm just loving how it's terrible to introduce business models inside the continental united states that you all use for all your international links. |
| 01:26.42 | Dagmar | IPv6 with the new mechanisms it brings should actually help .au |
| 01:26.49 | Jerub | Dagmar: and then, after i'm loving it, i want to stab you. |
| 01:27.01 | Dagmar | Jerub: Which buisness model are you talking about? |
| 01:27.35 | Jerub | being non-neutral. |
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| 01:28.05 | Dagmar | If you're talking about peering being godawful, you've no one to blame but yourselves for that |
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| 01:28.25 | Dagmar | ...although that's not a "blame" issue so much as it has yet to reach critical mass |
| 01:28.49 | Dagmar | The only reason peering works the way it does in the US is that there's so many links no one really gets to be choosy about it. |
| 01:29.13 | Dagmar | They move into a PAX somewhere, spend enough money on gear to keep the links from choking, and just try to keep it from melting down |
| 01:29.19 | SqueeG | if it reaches critical mass, there's a problem... that means something has been left stagnant or unattended for too long |
| 01:29.30 | Dagmar | SqueeG: wrong kind of critical mass |
| 01:30.02 | Dagmar | When you have very few players involved in peering, it's easy for the larger ones to make the smaller ones pay disproportionate transit fees |
| 01:30.03 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 01:30.15 | Adys | kd3: last patch; are you able to launch the game or does it say "gtfo and run repair-? |
| 01:30.27 | SqueeG | lol |
| 01:30.30 | Dagmar | When you have a LOT of players involved in it, competition alone makes every single one of them behave because otherwise, the rest will fucking drop them as being overtly expensive |
| 01:30.41 | Dagmar | THAT is a "you're out of buisness, champ!" condition |
| 01:30.58 | SqueeG | that's free market |
| 01:31.06 | Jamash | free market is a myth |
| 01:31.10 | SqueeG | ffs |
| 01:31.13 | SqueeG | maybe in AU |
| 01:31.18 | Dagmar | Not a market, but it's close enough to be |
| 01:31.37 | SqueeG | well |
| 01:31.41 | SqueeG | free market principle |
| 01:31.46 | SqueeG | the essence of competition |
| 01:31.51 | SqueeG | competition leads to innovation |
| 01:31.56 | Dagmar | Only reason they don't get crazy is that pipes which are maintained properly are never saturated, so scarcity can't be built right into things |
| 01:32.03 | Xinhuan | Cairenn: Pong |
| 01:32.29 | Dagmar | The spikes of IP's behaviour mean that if you tried to introduce artificial scarcity, you'd wind up with your shit on fire half the day long |
| 01:34.31 | Ressy | Its interesting seeing every file thats being loaded. |
| 01:34.37 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: change your damn gamerpic |
| 01:38.47 | Dagmar | wow. |
| 01:39.06 | Dagmar | I'm off work tomorrow, but I _may_ come into the office just so I can bite someone's face off. |
| 01:39.23 | Kraps | you're odd |
| 01:39.41 | Dagmar | Dude I just found a firewalling policy on this workstation that was pushed out through AD |
| 01:39.52 | Dagmar | There isn't supposed to be one on this workstation FOR A REASON. |
| 01:41.22 | Dagmar | If there's one on this workstation, it's also likely that some well-meaning individual also managed to apply the same to the machine doing OOB monitoring of our goddamn servers |
| 01:41.32 | Kraps | champions online is free to play for 7 days |
| 01:41.37 | Dagmar | ...so it may be that I've had AT&T running in circles for nothing |
| 01:41.48 | Dagmar | Kraps: Let me know when they fucking add hte ability to _sort auction house results_ |
| 01:42.04 | Kraps | so you've played it |
| 01:42.08 | Dagmar | yes. |
| 01:42.23 | Dagmar | I watched them steadfastly not really fix anything for a few months before I said "fuck it" |
| 01:42.32 | Kraps | i bought it when it first came out |
| 01:42.36 | Dagmar | Same here. |
| 01:42.57 | Dagmar | All the bugs that irritated the crap out of me in Champions were ready and waiting for me with Star Trek Online, too. |
| 01:43.07 | Dagmar | It's one thing to make one game half-assed. |
| 01:43.17 | Dagmar | It's entirely another to crank out a second one and expect people to not notice. |
| 01:43.17 | Kraps | they've patched it quite a bit though |
| 01:43.55 | TC-Work | "arlier today, a gunman entered Discovery Channel's headquarters with a gun or some explosives (reports are still coming in), took some employees hostage, and demanded better science programming." heh |
| 01:44.03 | TC-Work | Earlier* |
| 01:44.06 | Dagmar | Tc-Work: Have you read his demands yet? |
| 01:44.11 | TC-Work | no |
| 01:44.17 | Dagmar | They're awesome. |
| 01:44.19 | TC-Work | http://gizmodo.com/5627947/gunman-in-discovery-tv-building-demands-better-programming-from-the-science-network |
| 01:44.24 | TC-Work | but the idea is amusing |
| 01:44.27 | Dagmar | He did not "demand better science programming" |
| 01:44.38 | Dagmar | He actually demanded a bunch of crazy shit |
| 01:44.52 | Dagmar | He's apparently an honest-to-gosh Malthusian |
| 01:45.00 | TC-Work | http://savetheplanetprotest.com/ |
| 01:45.07 | TC-Work | what he wants is there it would seem |
| 01:45.09 | SqueeG | it was a gun and an explosive |
| 01:45.11 | SqueeG | they shot him |
| 01:45.24 | SqueeG | it wasn't 'better science programming' |
| 01:45.28 | Dagmar | http://www.businessinsider.com/discovery-channel-hostage-taker-demands-2010-9 |
| 01:45.29 | SqueeG | it was the eradication of human babies |
| 01:45.38 | SqueeG | and the beginning of human sterilization |
| 01:45.44 | Dagmar | Not just human babies, _filthy_ human babies |
| 01:45.50 | SqueeG | in a fight to reclaim earth for non-human life forms |
| 01:45.50 | Dagmar | Let's not forget that. Heh |
| 01:46.12 | SqueeG | xD true |
| 01:46.29 | Dagmar | Like most whackos, he didn't even have a solid grasp of the theories he was apeing |
| 01:46.39 | SqueeG | Such is the way of lunatics |
| 01:46.42 | Dagmar | Malthus wasn't that bad by a long shot |
| 01:46.56 | DWSR | I think what you're all missing is that you've all been epicly trolled by a TV station. |
| 01:46.58 | Kraps | Dagmar: "Additionally, once results have been returned, you can sort by price or by name." |
| 01:47.26 | Dagmar | Kraps: Well, we'll see if I find time to care in the next seven days then |
| 01:47.30 | SqueeG | i find it amusing that it was the DISCOVERY channel that he fucked with |
| 01:47.35 | Kraps | :D |
| 01:47.51 | SqueeG | 'seriously? the 'animals fucking' channel?' |
| 01:48.01 | Dagmar | ...because six months should have been MORE than enough time for the to put a damn sorting feature into the client. |
| 01:48.14 | SqueeG | sorting is hard, dagmar ;) |
| 01:48.17 | Dagmar | hell for the first two months your results capped at 100. Whatever was beyond that you could never see. |
| 01:48.36 | Kraps | YOU UNGRATFUL... PERSON |
| 01:48.38 | Dagmar | SqueeG: I don't pay for coders who think things like that are hard. |
| 01:48.55 | DWSR | Dagmar: No, they pay you to even look at the shit. |
| 01:49.31 | Dagmar | DWSR: Generally that's exactly right |
| 01:50.05 | Dagmar | The messed up thing is that I got mails from their system for WEEKS telling me about all the auctions I'd sold |
| 01:50.27 | DWSR | The most popular SC2 tactic according to sc2replayed is Zealot rush? |
| 01:50.28 | DWSR | LAWL? |
| 01:50.47 | Kraps | isnt it always? |
| 01:51.00 | Dagmar | I did just like in early WoW. Everything that wasn't common I threw into the the auction house based on multiplying the item level by it's quality and a fixed multiplier. No expiry and no fee == win |
| 01:51.12 | Dagmar | So... eventually EVERYTHING sold |
| 01:51.22 | Kraps | No expiry and no fee? |
| 01:51.28 | DWSR | Such were the good old days. |
| 01:51.29 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 01:51.43 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.45 | Dagmar | This is why it was unconscionable that the fucking thing didn't have a way to SORT the results |
| 01:51.50 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 01:51.53 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qozmpdHb3o |
| 01:52.01 | Dagmar | You could be easily looking at 800 of the same goddamn item |
| 01:53.07 | Dagmar | cogwheel: That guy writes press releases doesn't he |
| 01:54.05 | A-KO | you know |
| 01:54.09 | A-KO | I"m a fairly nonviolent person |
| 01:54.14 | A-KO | but when I see people harm animals |
| 01:54.23 | A-KO | there are things that I think tht they deserve that would prob get me locked up |
| 01:54.27 | cogwheel | what about when you see animals harm animals? |
| 01:54.31 | A-KO | that's fine |
| 01:54.36 | DWSR | s/harm animals// <-- fix't. |
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| 01:54.38 | cogwheel | speciesist |
| 01:54.42 | A-KO | unless a person let them on do it on purpose |
| 01:54.49 | A-KO | thankfully |
| 01:54.49 | Dagmar | It depends on whether or not I think it's a fair fight. |
| 01:54.56 | A-KO | the internet is damn good at uncovering people who do shit like that |
| 01:55.00 | cogwheel | (i agree fwiw) |
| 01:55.16 | Kraps | a cat would fuck up a dog |
| 01:55.25 | Dagmar | cogwheel: That guy has got to be either trolling, or a profressional press release writer |
| 01:55.54 | Dagmar | He's taken what, 20 minutes to talk about himself and show you what other people could in two. |
| 01:56.07 | Kraps | who? |
| 01:56.11 | cogwheel | i think you're missing the point |
| 01:56.13 | Dagmar | Kraps: check cogwheels' URL |
| 01:56.25 | Dagmar | cogwheel: That he probably never atually picks up the level 1 quest? |
| 01:56.38 | Kraps | what do you mean by press releases? |
| 01:56.42 | cogwheel | gently pats Dagmar |
| 01:56.56 | Dagmar | kraps: Have you sat through many of them? |
| 01:57.11 | cogwheel | press release isn't something you sit through |
| 01:57.14 | Kraps | press releases? |
| 01:57.16 | Dagmar | You could generally put what you give a shit about on a 3x5 card, in large print. |
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| 01:57.32 | Kraps | ok? |
| 01:57.34 | Dagmar | ...but some idiot will stand there at a podium and run his mouth about it for a half hour at least. |
| 01:57.44 | Kraps | ah |
| 01:58.14 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Yeah I know. Most of the time they basically just phone it in now, but still... They occasionally happen. |
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| 01:58.23 | Kraps | besides, leveling yourself is boring enough, why would you watch someone else do it? |
| 01:58.58 | Dagmar | Kraps: Not boring when it's new |
| 01:59.34 | Dagmar | ...assuming you're not playng Aion or Runes of Magic or something where it's flagrantly transparent that you are looking at the same three basic tasks over and over and over again |
| 01:59.56 | SqueeG | lmao |
| 02:00.01 | cogwheel | Dagmar: the purpose of saying all that stuff is to introduce what he's doing, why he's doing it, and to give you an idea of who he is and why it may be worth watching. You know, to give you enough information to decide if you want to watch it or not |
| 02:00.06 | SqueeG | allods was kind of fun for the few hours i played it >.> |
| 02:00.11 | cogwheel | it's called an introduction... |
| 02:00.29 | cralor | anyone have an idea what the URL for the beta launcher is? |
| 02:00.43 | cralor | the new |
| 02:00.45 | Dagmar | That's funny... I'd call it somewhere between "pontification" and "verbal masturbation" |
| 02:00.56 | cogwheel | yes, but that's because you're you |
| 02:01.10 | cogwheel | everyone has ulterior motives |
| 02:01.15 | Dagmar | Do you think he wrote all that down to see what it looks like on paper? |
| 02:01.24 | Dagmar | ...or was he just making it up as he went along. |
| 02:01.25 | cogwheel | probably not |
| 02:01.45 | Dagmar | ...cuz, you know, most people would see that wall of text and say "Hm... some of this can probably go" |
| 02:02.05 | cogwheel | "probably not" @ do i think he wrote it all down |
| 02:02.32 | Dagmar | Well, it's like this... Something that is in the ops manual for the radio station... |
| 02:02.58 | Dagmar | "Remember: The listeners did not turn on their radios just to hear you talk endlessly. Sometimes they expect music to come out. Keep it short." |
| 02:03.25 | cogwheel | Dagmar: 1) it's not radio |
| 02:03.28 | cogwheel | 2) it's not radio |
| 02:03.51 | Dagmar | Oh yeah, people's attention spans are MUCH longer when they're in front of a computer as opposed to trapped in a moving vehicle |
| 02:04.04 | cogwheel | the thing about global interaction is that it's much easier to create niche markets |
| 02:04.20 | cogwheel | that's what i was saying about the introduction... you listened, and found it wasn't something you'd be interested in |
| 02:05.02 | cogwheel | but you take it much farther than disinterest |
| 02:06.38 | Dagmar | Actually, I listened, then I skipped ahead and saw that no particular progress had been made, so I listened some more, then skipped ahead... boggled that he's still going on... skipped ahead, heard the word "enjoy" about ten times in as many sentences... skipped ahead some more... skipped ahead some more... |
| 02:06.52 | cogwheel | that's fine |
| 02:07.07 | Dagmar | I think he's got an okay idea, but he needs someone to teach him how to speak |
| 02:07.10 | Jamash | massive, massive damage |
| 02:07.23 | Dagmar | I'm not talking about his understandability, mind. |
| 02:07.29 | cogwheel | Dagmar: sure, if he's trying to actively build an audience |
| 02:08.02 | cogwheel | but that's stressful. i'd rather just do what i do and if people watch they watch. |
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| 02:08.35 | DWSR | anyone for some SC2? |
| 02:08.46 | cogwheel | it's like you take offense that he's not trying harder to please you :P |
| 02:08.56 | Dagmar | cogwheel: If it's any consolation he'll probably get better eventually |
| 02:09.14 | cogwheel | i will to... i'm pretty happy with my latest LFMF compared to the previous 2 |
| 02:09.18 | cogwheel | will too* |
| 02:09.21 | Dagmar | cogwheel: No, "offense" is a bit strong of a word. |
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| 02:09.49 | cogwheel | Dagmar: then your reaction (or at least the way i read it) was disproportionate |
| 02:09.51 | Dagmar | I find it irksome that it's basically verbal rambling that's quite repetitive |
| 02:09.59 | cogwheel | (and i admit it may very well been my reading of it) |
| 02:10.01 | Dagmar | Ya say less, you're less likely to repeat yerself |
| 02:10.20 | cogwheel | Dagmar: another thing i do is make fun of myself about it in the annotations ;) |
| 02:10.27 | Dagmar | Oh that's YOU |
| 02:10.32 | cogwheel | no |
| 02:10.34 | cogwheel | that's not |
| 02:10.41 | Dagmar | Okay. |
| 02:10.41 | cogwheel | i'm just relating with him... |
| 02:11.14 | Dagmar | Well, if you know the guy tell him to go back and make a note of how many times he touched on the same subject. He's got to get the repetition of the same info thing toned down. |
| 02:11.49 | cogwheel | all "got tos" can be qualified |
| 02:12.03 | cogwheel | in this case it's "in order to appease you" |
| 02:12.04 | cogwheel | :P |
| 02:12.07 | Dagmar | Repetition is boring. |
| 02:12.09 | cogwheel | (and many others) |
| 02:12.50 | SqueeG | eh, dagmar has a point |
| 02:12.55 | SqueeG | doesn't need to get his feather |
| 02:13.02 | Dagmar | Might be because I spent about 7 years as a late night radio DJ |
| 02:13.02 | SqueeG | feathers ruffled though* |
| 02:13.21 | Dagmar | Boy howdy will drug-addled maniacs call in and tell you how they feel about what you're saying |
| 02:13.29 | Dagmar | Crucible of FIRE |
| 02:13.43 | cogwheel | Dagmar: not nearly as bad as the drug addled maniacs who host some of the shows... |
| 02:13.52 | Dagmar | Hey I always spun sober |
| 02:13.55 | SqueeG | lol |
| 02:14.08 | cogwheel | mostly thinking of talk radio here |
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| 02:14.30 | Dagmar | Ah yes, Mr. Beck is a fine example |
| 02:14.30 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560511555&sid=2000 |
| 02:14.32 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 02:14.39 | SqueeG | ... |
| 02:15.09 | cogwheel | lua_bot: i missed you! |
| 02:15.10 | lua_bot | cogwheel: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'missed' |
| 02:15.16 | Dagmar | Proof that drugs can indeed destroy the brain and leave the body fully-functional |
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| 02:15.37 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Clearly he missed you, too |
| 02:15.48 | cogwheel | ~hug lua_bot |
| 02:15.48 | purl | ACTION hugs lua_bot |
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| 02:16.25 | Dagmar | lua_bot: i = missed you |
| 02:16.25 | lua_bot | Dagmar: luabot:1: '=' expected near '<eof>' |
| 02:16.35 | Dagmar | *sigh* I tried |
| 02:16.56 | Dagmar | I was hoping to bluff the bot into not responding |
| 02:18.03 | SqueeG | lua_bot: i = missed_you end |
| 02:18.03 | lua_bot | SqueeG: luabot:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 02:18.08 | SqueeG | woops |
| 02:18.10 | SqueeG | ah well |
| 02:18.22 | SqueeG | lua_bot: i = missed_you |
| 02:18.22 | lua_bot | SqueeG: No output |
| 02:18.54 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560769980&sid=2000&pageNo=2#33 lulz @ #33 |
| 02:18.57 | cogwheel | hides |
| 02:19.00 | SqueeG | no output, only input |
| 02:19.02 | cogwheel | Esamynn|Away: ^ |
| 02:19.03 | SqueeG | bow chicka bow wow |
| 02:19.22 | Kraps | the throw animation in CO is exactly like in the superman animations :D |
| 02:20.00 | bluspacecow | @cog so are addons enable yet or not |
| 02:20.06 | Jamash | they are |
| 02:20.33 | bluspacecow | and are /script now working ? |
| 02:20.36 | Jamash | no |
| 02:20.40 | cogwheel | no... see link |
| 02:20.45 | cogwheel | and blame me :P |
| 02:20.51 | bluspacecow | kk brb |
| 02:21.11 | cogwheel | esamynn made the "/dump killer" rank just for me in the author guild.. |
| 02:21.27 | bluspacecow | win. |
| 02:22.19 | SqueeG | what'd you DO cogwheel? |
| 02:22.30 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626576491&postId=256237522622&sid=2000#14 |
| 02:23.10 | bluspacecow | wrote an addon system that uses macro commands instead of actual addons |
| 02:23.18 | bluspacecow | i meant cog did |
| 02:23.23 | bluspacecow | stupid IRC client ! |
| 02:23.25 | Ressy | cog ticked off the powers that be. |
| 02:23.30 | SqueeG | xD |
| 02:23.39 | bluspacecow | *hits it* |
| 02:24.19 | cogwheel | they're tho thenthative |
| 02:24.19 | SqueeG | xD |
| 02:25.21 | SqueeG | xD |
| 02:26.03 | cogwheel | purl emulate SqueeG is <reply>xD |
| 02:26.03 | purl | okay, cogwheel |
| 02:26.18 | cogwheel | ducks |
| 02:26.56 | bluspacecow | ~SqueeG |
| 02:27.07 | cogwheel | ~emulate SqueeG |
| 02:27.07 | purl | xD |
| 02:27.19 | SqueeG | .... |
| 02:27.23 | cogwheel | xD |
| 02:27.27 | Jamash | SlashCmdList["DUMP"] = function(msg) if ( IsGMClient() ) then UIParentLoadAddOn("Blizzard_DebugTools"); DevTools_DumpCommand(msg); end end |
| 02:27.36 | Jamash | this is what you hath wrought |
| 02:27.58 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 02:28.08 | bluspacecow | *giggles* |
| 02:28.18 | cogwheel | that's dumb in at least 2 ways... |
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| 02:28.41 | cogwheel | unless UIParentLoadAddOn depends on secure functionality... |
| 02:28.43 | Jamash | same for script |
| 02:28.54 | cogwheel | wut... |
| 02:28.59 | Jamash | no it's how they disabled run and script for mortals |
| 02:29.11 | cogwheel | oh they must've patched it then... |
| 02:29.26 | cogwheel | originally they had just commented the function calls out... |
| 02:29.35 | SqueeG | lol |
| 02:29.42 | cogwheel | the testers must've been like FUUUUUU |
| 02:29.45 | Jamash | yeah |
| 02:29.47 | SqueeG | over reaction much? |
| 02:29.52 | cogwheel | lawl |
| 02:30.16 | Jamash | I'll write a beta addon that fixes them :P |
| 02:30.52 | bluspacecow | ooo |
| 02:31.06 | bluspacecow | new launcher improvements :) |
| 02:32.16 | Jamash | yeah |
| 02:34.15 | bluspacecow | having problems getting the new shizznit downloading |
| 02:34.20 | bluspacecow | BRB while I fiddle |
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| 02:38.13 | Jamash | addon written |
| 02:38.36 | Jamash | should I call it "Hurpdurp" or "Cogwheel Is A Dumbass" when I upload it to wowi? |
| 02:38.54 | bluspacecow | i vote cogwheel is a dumbass |
| 02:38.56 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 02:39.03 | bluspacecow | no |
| 02:39.11 | bluspacecow | "It's all cogwheels fault" |
| 02:39.11 | SqueeG | nah |
| 02:39.15 | Jamash | ah that's good |
| 02:39.15 | SqueeG | that's rather hilarious |
| 02:42.12 | bluspacecow | herp derp |
| 02:42.36 | bluspacecow | now i'm completely out of beta ... can't even download the client files via the launcher now |
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| 02:42.52 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:44.20 | SqueeG | eh |
| 02:44.24 | Cidan | oh? |
| 02:44.31 | SqueeG | macs are overpriced |
| 02:44.35 | Cidan | ah |
| 02:44.37 | Cidan | Yes |
| 02:44.40 | Cidan | But the OS is so slick |
| 02:44.54 | SqueeG | eeeeh... |
| 02:45.33 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.07 | bluspacecow | s/Intel Mac/Better computer with higher specs/g/ |
| 02:47.41 | SqueeG | home built PC trumps mac |
| 02:48.00 | bluspacecow | nice point ty |
| 02:48.02 | ckknight | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1283394632985.jpg |
| 02:48.17 | bluspacecow | <---- will still be buying a mac not matter what you say ... my money not yours |
| 02:48.28 | SqueeG | i never said you sholdn't |
| 02:48.41 | SqueeG | creepy, ckknight |
| 02:48.48 | SqueeG | shouldn't* |
| 02:49.02 | SqueeG | just threw my opinion out xD |
| 02:49.52 | Cidan | I do like my mac at work, so, eh. |
| 02:50.08 | SqueeG | I like my win7 machine :D |
| 02:51.06 | Cidan | Indeed |
| 02:52.07 | Cidan | Hm, I need a decent mod to replace the overhead nameplates |
| 02:52.08 | Cidan | ideas? |
| 02:52.29 | SqueeG | I've never liked any i've come across |
| 02:53.07 | Cidan | oo, neat |
| 02:53.15 | Cidan | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw29212.jpg |
| 02:53.42 | SqueeG | ah, not bad |
| 02:53.56 | Cidan | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13961-caelNameplates.html |
| 02:53.58 | Cidan | Not at all |
| 02:54.58 | SqueeG | good find :p |
| 02:55.20 | bluspacecow | tidy plates? |
| 02:57.08 | Jerub | i still don't know if i like tidy plates or not |
| 02:57.15 | Jerub | my bigges tproblem is tall enembies. |
| 02:57.18 | Jerub | er enemies |
| 02:57.20 | Jerub | gah |
| 02:57.21 | Jerub | mobs. |
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| 03:02.25 | DWSR | I fuxking hate being sick. |
| 03:02.50 | DWSR | Btw, TidyPlates using the NeonPlates theme. |
| 03:03.00 | DWSR | Best one I've found. |
| 03:04.00 | Jamash | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17848-ItsAllCogwheelsFaultrundumpfix.html |
| 03:05.26 | Ressy | lol |
| 03:06.31 | DWSR | Hqh. Thats funny. |
| 03:06.43 | DWSR | Hah, rather. |
| 03:07.10 | Jamash | hooray for the world's shortest addon |
| 03:07.30 | Jamash | download size: 760 bytes |
| 03:07.57 | Ressy | CError's smaller. |
| 03:08.16 | Jamash | curses |
| 03:08.23 | DWSR | Yep. |
| 03:08.28 | DWSR | Pretty close though. |
| 03:09.19 | DWSR | Ugh, I fucking hate being sick. |
| 03:09.24 | Jamash | so stop being sick |
| 03:09.31 | DWSR | Btw, massive kudos to whoever recommended SpeedFan. |
| 03:09.37 | Jamash | speedfan is cool |
| 03:09.47 | DWSR | I just turn on my fans full power during gaming now. :) |
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| 03:10.01 | Jamash | are there API diffs for cata? |
| 03:10.03 | DWSR | Card runs better at higher clock speeds. |
| 03:10.36 | Blu|TabbedOut | "creating mini-AddOns in the Cataclysm Beta" ...... i understand e wrote it before Cata Beta come about |
| 03:10.38 | DWSR | Really need a new mobo though, full size atx this time |
| 03:10.56 | Jamash | did he? well whatever |
| 03:11.46 | Blu|TabbedOut | its still cogwheels fault |
| 03:12.13 | Duman | lol |
| 03:12.41 | Duman | hmm, I wonder if bagnon will work |
| 03:12.58 | DWSR | Anything complex will likwly break. |
| 03:13.02 | DWSR | Likely, rather. |
| 03:13.04 | Adys | !api getlink |
| 03:13.04 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getlink'. |
| 03:13.06 | Duman | yeah |
| 03:13.12 | Adys | !api tooltip |
| 03:13.12 | lua_bot | Found 72 possible matches for 'tooltip'. Please be more specific |
| 03:13.15 | Adys | !api tooltip:get |
| 03:13.16 | lua_bot | Found 7 possible results for 'tooltip:get': GameTooltip:GetUnit, GameTooltip:GetMinimumWidth, GameTooltip:GetPadding, GameTooltip:GetOwner, GameTooltip:GetItem, GameTooltip:GetAnchorType, GameTooltip:GetSpell |
| 03:13.27 | kd3 | noooooOOoO~ |
| 03:13.28 | Sliker | ouf works (yay, haste) |
| 03:13.30 | kd3 | wine crash on login |
| 03:13.31 | Adys | !api hyperlink |
| 03:13.31 | lua_bot | Found 8 possible results for 'hyperlink': SimpleHTML:SetHyperlinksEnabled, ScrollingMessageFrame:SetHyperlinksEnabled, GameTooltip:SetHyperlink, SimpleHTML:SetHyperlinkFormat, SimpleHTML:GetHyperlinkFormat, ScrollingMessageFrame:GetHyperlinksEnabled, GameTooltip:SetHyperlinkCompareItem, SimpleHTML:GetHyperlinksEnabled |
| 03:13.33 | kd3 | cries |
| 03:13.34 | Duman | sup kd3 |
| 03:13.38 | kd3 | heyo |
| 03:13.44 | Duman | kd3: btw, guild is back - but you're probably in another one by now :) |
| 03:14.13 | kd3 | whee |
| 03:14.23 | kd3 | if I can get past login I'll send you a poke |
| 03:14.27 | Duman | hmm |
| 03:14.31 | Duman | was working fine for me |
| 03:14.44 | kd3 | was a bad cache thing, I guess. |
| 03:14.57 | kd3 | that's going to be the new answer now... 'delete both caches and try again' |
| 03:15.04 | Duman | ahh that |
| 03:15.15 | Duman | installer is still a little rough around the edges |
| 03:15.15 | Adys | kd3: "on login"? |
| 03:15.30 | Duman | and they broke runnign 2 clients at once |
| 03:15.32 | Adys | kd3: mine crashes on load, only cataclysm |
| 03:15.34 | Duman | (temp. issue) |
| 03:15.44 | Adys | kd3: but i just closed a bug like that... sec |
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| 03:16.04 | Adys | kd3: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=24140 |
| 03:16.05 | kd3 | ya. it tried to pull/put something into/out of the cache and tried to read from 0x0000001c |
| 03:16.06 | Adys | have a look? |
| 03:16.13 | kd3 | deleting the cache solved it |
| 03:16.15 | kd3 | is in sw |
| 03:16.32 | kd3 | rather, just outside sw. yay |
| 03:17.17 | kd3 | and grr... /run's still off? |
| 03:17.33 | Adys | just get an addon to reenable it |
| 03:17.36 | Jamash | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17848-ItsAllCogwheelsFaultrundumpfix.html |
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| 03:17.51 | Duman | bahaha |
| 03:17.54 | Duman | jsut saw that |
| 03:17.56 | Mr_Rabies | woop |
| 03:18.10 | Mr_Rabies | gonna see ckknight's panel at Dragon*Con this weekend :] |
| 03:18.57 | Jamash | cool |
| 03:19.26 | Mr_Rabies | HAY CKKNIGHT CAN U SIGN MY ADDONS FOLDER KTHX |
| 03:19.49 | Jamash | hahahahaha |
| 03:19.53 | Duman | bwahah |
| 03:20.09 | Blu|TabbedOut | lolz |
| 03:20.18 | Blu|TabbedOut | tell him to wear the purple shirt this time |
| 03:20.21 | Blu|TabbedOut | not the pink |
| 03:20.23 | Jamash | I shouted "I LOVE YOU" at Slouken one blizzcon |
| 03:20.32 | kd3 | lmao |
| 03:20.42 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies: howdy |
| 03:20.46 | Mr_Rabies | what up |
| 03:20.52 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies: yea, just come and tell me who you are when you see me |
| 03:20.55 | ckknight | I'm giving two talk |
| 03:20.56 | ckknight | talks* |
| 03:21.01 | Jamash | anyone going to PAX? |
| 03:21.10 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i noticed you were doing the WoW Q&A too |
| 03:21.18 | Mr_Rabies | i knew addon kung-fu was you |
| 03:21.24 | ckknight | yea |
| 03:21.27 | ckknight | I'm totally gonna wing it |
| 03:21.31 | ckknight | last time 300 people showed up |
| 03:21.36 | ckknight | and it went half an hour overtime :P |
| 03:22.06 | Mr_Rabies | push those everquest 2 scrubs out of the schedule |
| 03:22.12 | Blu|TabbedOut | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/ck%20knight%20zomg.jpg |
| 03:22.19 | Blu|TabbedOut | ^^^ reference photo |
| 03:22.36 | Mr_Rabies | is that at dragoncon |
| 03:22.38 | Jamash | hot |
| 03:22.43 | ckknight | I hung out with the guy on the bottom |
| 03:22.43 | Blu|TabbedOut | not sure where |
| 03:22.46 | Mr_Rabies | who is holding you there, ckknight? |
| 03:22.47 | Blu|TabbedOut | its off wowinsider.com |
| 03:22.50 | Mr_Rabies | ah |
| 03:22.56 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies: I'm not in that pic |
| 03:22.59 | ckknight | I'm a lot thinner |
| 03:22.59 | Xyphoid | woo, spell reflect totem |
| 03:22.59 | Mr_Rabies | oh you're not |
| 03:23.01 | Mr_Rabies | oh ok |
| 03:23.13 | Mr_Rabies | well |
| 03:23.25 | Mr_Rabies | be careful if somehow you think wearing a kilt is a good idea |
| 03:23.39 | Blu|TabbedOut | kilt guy's jnwhiteh isn't it ? |
| 03:23.47 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies: http://i56.tinypic.com/ip6vwx.jpg |
| 03:23.51 | ckknight | that's me |
| 03:23.53 | Blu|TabbedOut | unless i saved the photo with the wrong references >_< |
| 03:23.53 | cog|away | Blu|TabbedOut: alpha |
| 03:24.12 | Mr_Rabies | http://thedevilspanties.com/ this lady will hunt you down and attack you with a leaf blower if you wear a kilt |
| 03:24.17 | Duman | hrm, is there a working autoprofit-esque addon for cata? altho I guess I should just try to see if the normal autoprofit works |
| 03:24.30 | Humbedooh | Are you laughing or having an acute angina? ;< |
| 03:24.33 | ckknight | what's wrong with a kilt? |
| 03:24.35 | ckknight | I've worn one before |
| 03:24.36 | Dagmar | A real man has no problems wearing a kilt. In fact, they're pretty damn cool about wearing a dress and pumps. |
| 03:25.02 | Mr_Rabies | ckknight: she checks to see if you're wearing a kilt legit-like |
| 03:25.07 | Mr_Rabies | with a leaf blower |
| 03:25.07 | Blu|TabbedOut | @ck alpha ? |
| 03:25.08 | Mr_Rabies | BEWARE |
| 03:25.34 | ckknight | Blu|TabbedOut: hmm? |
| 03:25.46 | Humbedooh | you mean ladies beware |
| 03:25.48 | cogwheel | Blu|TabbedOut: i made mcrun during alpha |
| 03:26.03 | Blu|TabbedOut | oh right ... thought it was in reference to my kilt photo |
| 03:26.12 | Blu|TabbedOut | of some random dude i cant confirm who they are ! |
| 03:26.20 | Blu|TabbedOut | *thumbs up!* win ! |
| 03:28.24 | Blu|TabbedOut | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560501199&sid=2000 = WIN |
| 03:29.28 | Jamash | hey cog I'm calling you names on wowi you should come defend your honor http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=204615#post204615 |
| 03:29.50 | cogwheel | Jamash: you can say i made it during alpha when they disabled addons imo ;) |
| 03:30.21 | Mr_Rabies | damnit ckknight you're at the same time as the venture bros guys for the Q&A fffff |
| 03:30.33 | ckknight | aw, lame |
| 03:31.14 | Sixen | New launcher looks tight |
| 03:31.22 | Mr_Rabies | don't worry, the adult swim stuff fills up super fast so even if there's a lot of co-interest, the wow room will probably be packed beyond all reasonable safety |
| 03:31.49 | Mr_Rabies | if it's the same room as 2 years ago there's never enough room in the mmo track for the good panels |
| 03:32.01 | cogwheel | Jamash: pride != honor |
| 03:32.04 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:33.05 | Mr_Rabies | you should totally hand-make some signs and annex james marsters' spot at the walk of fame and hang out with the celebrities, ckknight |
| 03:33.11 | Jamash | where's fisker and his trout when I need him |
| 03:34.15 | Jamash | also what Mr_Rabies just said |
| 03:34.44 | Mr_Rabies | damnit, also the same time as james randi's panel |
| 03:34.53 | Jamash | the amazing randi? |
| 03:34.58 | Mr_Rabies | i can't catch a damned break |
| 03:35.00 | Mr_Rabies | yes |
| 03:35.00 | cogwheel | <3 randi |
| 03:35.17 | Jamash | dang that's a tough choice |
| 03:35.31 | Mr_Rabies | i know right |
| 03:35.38 | Mr_Rabies | i'll probably wander between all of them |
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| 03:36.11 | orionshock | anyone here familiar with the new guild tradeskill api or has some insight into it? im trying to find out where / what api they are using to open a specific player's link |
| 03:37.34 | cogwheel | you might be able to find ui extractions to look at the blizzard code... not sure where on the web but kd3 has them i think |
| 03:38.07 | kd3 | er, nevcairiel's maintaining a git repo. easier to look at than my emails |
| 03:38.38 | kd3 | http://github.com/Nevcairiel/wow-ui-source/tree/cataclysm |
| 03:38.47 | orionshock | cogwheel, i got one fro sylvanaar.. sadly i can only conclude that blizzard is using black magic to open that view... as i've tried looking at this and found nothing useful. |
| 03:38.58 | kd3 | not updated for ysterday's (today)'s build, but it's close enough |
| 03:39.10 | cogwheel | orionshock: then you're not looking in the right place :P |
| 03:39.52 | orionshock | hehe, using some magic of my own, i found that the GuildRosterContainerButtonX is calling GuildRosterButton_OnClick |
| 03:40.01 | orionshock | but that function in the UI returns if the current view is the tradeskill stuff |
| 03:40.31 | orionshock | i found the API to open the consolidated tradeskill view " ViewGuildRecipes(skillID) " |
| 03:40.43 | orionshock | but that's not exactly what im looking for |
| 03:41.50 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560769980&sid=2000&pageNo=2#35 <-- don't miss this shameless self-promotion opportunity ;) |
| 03:41.59 | cogwheel | jamash ^ |
| 03:42.22 | Jamash | on it |
| 03:44.26 | SqueeG | DAMMIT |
| 03:44.30 | Jamash | b'geah! |
| 03:44.32 | SqueeG | i'm not allowed to post in cara T_T |
| 03:44.36 | SqueeG | cata* |
| 03:45.12 | cogwheel | Jamash: i like that you use the non-SEO link ;) |
| 03:45.24 | cogwheel | that much more "surprise" |
| 03:45.29 | Jamash | if I go to create a worgen and scroll through the faces one of them turns the human face into a horrible monster |
| 03:45.58 | Jamash | heh |
| 03:46.05 | Jerub | so when's cata being released? |
| 03:46.06 | Jerub | :P |
| 03:46.11 | Jamash | "soon"(tm) |
| 03:46.19 | Jerub | will i be able to get kingslayer title after cata is released? |
| 03:47.03 | Jamash | yes but you will have to pay $25 |
| 03:47.36 | Jerub | Jamash: huh? |
| 03:48.39 | Blu|HungryFooooo | "Sixen: New launcher looks tight" <---- but I can't even run it ...QQ PPC Mac support completely pulled. |
| 03:48.50 | ckknight | ha |
| 03:49.10 | Jamash | Jerub: I'm making fun of blizzard (sparklepony etc) |
| 03:49.38 | Sixen | :( |
| 03:49.45 | Jamash | oh man this is creepy looking |
| 03:49.55 | Jamash | I have a worgen face texture plastered on a human face |
| 03:50.00 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | i can has pictures ? |
| 03:50.07 | Jamash | lemme upload one |
| 03:50.24 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | O_O |
| 03:50.29 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | forgot ma toast ! |
| 03:50.34 | Jerub | Jamash: oh, right. |
| 03:50.39 | Jerub | yeah, i don't own a sparklepony |
| 03:51.49 | Jamash | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9441366/WoWScrnShot_090110_234826.jpg |
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| 03:54.07 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | O_O |
| 03:54.18 | Thunder_Child | "Oops. You need to have JavaScript enabled to experience this Web site in all its glory. " heh |
| 03:54.26 | Sliker | that's awesome |
| 03:55.40 | Seerah | Jamash: I saw a couple different faces with that skin when I was looking at the new creation screen for worgen. There are also a few with flesh colored facial hair, and I noticed that the human form has the worgen fur skin on their arms, too |
| 03:56.18 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | \o seerah |
| 03:56.32 | Seerah | o/ blu! |
| 03:56.47 | Jamash | hmm, GetSpellName is gone |
| 03:56.55 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | <--- needs new computer to continue testing beta |
| 03:56.57 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | :( |
| 03:57.00 | Seerah | :( |
| 03:57.02 | Seerah | I couldn' |
| 03:57.05 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | *comteplates options* |
| 03:57.07 | Seerah | sighs |
| 03:57.19 | Seerah | I couldn't test on my laptop because I ran out of space |
| 03:57.24 | Jamash | oh because there's no more ranks |
| 03:57.50 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | does the installer test for required space before installing now or does it just fail 1/2 the install ? |
| 03:57.56 | Seerah | fail |
| 03:58.03 | Seerah | oh, now? |
| 03:58.12 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | im not sure |
| 03:58.15 | Seerah | dunno. as of about 5 days ago it failed |
| 03:58.27 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | 1/2 through or before it started ? |
| 03:58.37 | Seerah | just said it wanted to install 13GB when I only had 5 left. |
| 03:58.42 | Seerah | half through |
| 03:58.46 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | :\ |
| 03:58.50 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | fail installer |
| 03:58.58 | Seerah | so you can let it stream and still log in..... |
| 03:59.03 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | should put up an error before starting "you need more space" |
| 03:59.08 | Seerah | unless they changed it with the new launcher... |
| 03:59.30 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | you can but you still need a little bit of space to store the streamed data don't you ? |
| 03:59.40 | Seerah | yeah |
| 03:59.45 | Seerah | as it comes |
| 04:01.32 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | *sips herbal tea* |
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| 04:01.58 | Jamash | I wonder who "Chaz" is |
| 04:03.33 | tem | so |
| 04:03.38 | tem | How do I get to the badlands? |
| 04:04.05 | kd3 | breadcrumb from epl |
| 04:04.30 | tem | fml |
| 04:05.10 | Jamash | ah there we go, it's now GetSpellBookItemName |
| 04:05.53 | Jamash | global search and replace, you are my only friend |
| 04:06.22 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | as well as sed |
| 04:06.31 | Jamash | sed can diaf |
| 04:07.31 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | whats the build # now ? |
| 04:07.48 | Seerah | 12857 |
| 04:08.28 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | ty |
| 04:09.47 | Jamash | I just love Lua Error boxes that are blank |
| 04:10.24 | Thunder_Child | who doesnt? |
| 04:11.10 | Jamash | stack overflow in the error reporting code >_< |
| 04:13.18 | Arrowmaster | use something other than the builtin error reporter |
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| 04:14.33 | Thunder_Child | ordering today "Estimated delivery date for these 5 items: September 30, 2010 - October 13, 2010" |
| 04:14.34 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 04:14.53 | Thunder_Child | an entire month to get 5 books? |
| 04:15.43 | Seerah | one out of stock? |
| 04:16.05 | Thunder_Child | nope |
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| 04:29.36 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560568780&sid=2000 |
| 04:29.48 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | lolz @ peeps rude to other peeps trying to help them on beta |
| 04:32.52 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26723612206&sid=2000 |
| 04:32.59 | Blu|NeedsNewPute | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.28 | Dagmar | Fatal beatings... more of 'em... we need. |
| 04:37.02 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || Daily beatings will continue until morale improves. |
| 04:48.46 | Mr_Rabies | finding hotels for dragoncon sucks |
| 04:48.47 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 04:51.17 | ckknight | Mr_Rabies: that's why I did it like 4 months ago |
| 04:51.27 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i know |
| 04:51.35 | Mr_Rabies | i was planning to crash at a friends but it fell through |
| 04:51.36 | Mr_Rabies | ;[ |
| 04:51.42 | ckknight | sucks |
| 04:51.46 | ckknight | well, you're not crashing with me |
| 04:51.49 | Mr_Rabies | i live in the metro atlanta area, but it's about a 2 hour drive |
| 04:51.59 | ckknight | only one bed, and it's occupied by two people anyway |
| 04:52.03 | ckknight | :P |
| 04:52.20 | Mr_Rabies | i'll sleep at the foot of the bed |
| 04:52.40 | Mr_Rabies | caveat: my snoring reaches excess of 100 db though |
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| 05:25.26 | Fisker | m ngbvgbvgbvgbvgbvgbvgbvgbvgbvgbvgbvgbv |
| 05:25.28 | sylvanaar | RightWing has never failed me |
| 05:25.52 | sylvanaar | why it still isnt in the game i dont know] |
| 05:26.02 | sylvanaar | (right click self cast) |
| 05:36.13 | Wobin | what was that wikileakswikileaks site? |
| 05:37.44 | Wobin | ah http://www.wikileakileaks.org/ |
| 05:41.57 | Jerub | wilkie just declared for ALP |
| 05:42.01 | Fisker | why so srs Wobin ? |
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| 06:16.31 | zenzio | "Think you can bust out some silly fresh rhymes on the subjects of hacking, identity theft and computer viruses? In a somewhat untraditional partnership, Snoop Dogg and Symantec's Norton want you to show off your their lyrical skills on the subject of cybercrime and enter the 'Hack is Wack' cybercrime rap contest." |
| 06:16.34 | Fisker | i'm sick zenzio |
| 06:16.42 | zenzio | because "Don't copy that floppy" was so awesome, I assume |
| 06:16.49 | Fisker | it was |
| 06:16.57 | Fisker | oh my god |
| 06:16.58 | Fisker | no |
| 06:17.00 | Fisker | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 06:17.34 | Fisker | http://twitter.com/BlizzardCS |
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| 06:19.02 | Jamash | yeah because it makes so much sense to hire a gangsta rapper to promote law-abiding behavior |
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| 06:19.50 | Cairenn | well, there is such a thing as plain old rap :p |
| 06:20.00 | Cairenn | ie non-gansta |
| 06:20.35 | Fisker | http://www.speedtest.net/result/937356904.png <-wtffffffffffff |
| 06:20.48 | Fisker | wtf is going on in here etc. |
| 06:21.00 | Vilkku | it's router restart time |
| 06:21.01 | zenzio | does that still exist? |
| 06:23.16 | Dagmar | Fisker: Something's choking to death |
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| 06:23.50 | Dagmar | Either that or failing hardware, most likely a questionable network cable |
| 06:24.23 | Dagmar | Assuming that's _not_ taking place in the middle of a DDoS storm of some kind |
| 06:27.30 | Adys | anyone online on mekkatorque alliance? |
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| 06:30.50 | haste | might want to state region as well |
| 06:31.03 | haste | you never know if someone can help you out by just creating a char :3 |
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| 06:32.17 | `-FISKER_Q\ | http://www.speedtest.net/result/937365257.png <-/flex |
| 06:34.01 | nevcairiel | you have some mighty powerful interwebz there |
| 06:34.54 | haste | nice |
| 06:35.52 | Jamash | fisker, where were you when I needed you to hit cogwheel with a fish |
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| 06:41.10 | Dagmar | Fisker: It's time to take those recycled coat-hangers you're using for a phone cable and toss 'em |
| 06:41.26 | Dagmar | ...or, you know, switch from AT&T wireless. ;) |
| 06:41.51 | haste | Dagmar: fisker be offline! |
| 06:41.56 | haste | he also isn't a usa-hole :D |
| 06:41.58 | zenzio | he's also Danish |
| 06:42.05 | zenzio | they don't have modern technology |
| 06:42.05 | Dagmar | They might have AT&T there |
| 06:42.07 | Dagmar | You never know |
| 06:42.08 | haste | and he can't swim! |
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| 06:42.15 | Dagmar | The signal probably kinda sucks from way over there tho'. |
| 06:42.16 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:42.20 | zenzio | hehe |
| 06:42.34 | haste | think AT&T is US only |
| 06:46.05 | tekkub | did the author guilds ever get set back up after the wipe on the beta servers? |
| 06:46.09 | tekkub | specifically pve ally |
| 06:46.53 | Humbedooh | I'll tell you when I get into beta ;< |
| 06:47.28 | Dagmar | Yeah now that they're doing addons I think I'll poke at the Gmail inbox thingie |
| 06:47.53 | Dagmar | I've got a million filters in place but at least then I can pretend I might get an invite. ;) |
| 06:48.12 | Cairenn | tekkub: I believe so, saw Tem asking for an invite earlier |
| 06:48.39 | tem | I never got one |
| 06:48.42 | tem | btw |
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| 07:00.30 | Jamash | I need to remake the horde pve guild |
| 07:01.11 | Vilkku | Jamash, EU? |
| 07:01.15 | Jamash | US |
| 07:01.34 | Vilkku | k |
| 07:01.34 | Jamash | I also need to pack for my trip to PAX tomorrow |
| 07:01.58 | Vilkku | now with addons enabled, do any 3.x addons work out of the box or do they all need to be rewritten? |
| 07:02.12 | Jamash | dunno, my addon doesn't work due to them refactoring the spellbook |
| 07:02.33 | Jamash | I think most addons will require at least some tweaking |
| 07:02.59 | Yssaril | Vilkku: most addons should work or just need some minor fixes |
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| 07:14.44 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:15.00 | zenzio | "I can see the Horde raiding Varian, and Anduin standing behind him healing going "LOL"" |
| 07:17.21 | Jamash | is he old enough to kill yet? |
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| 07:19.43 | Jamash | tip of the day: "DEV TEST ENTRY" |
| 07:19.54 | zenzio | nice tip |
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| 07:23.25 | Jamash | nope, he's only level 5 (non-flagged) |
| 07:28.04 | tekkub | they should totally have him heal, but be unattackable |
| 07:28.36 | rocode | Well, that was the first time I have ever overloaded bugswatter before. |
| 07:28.46 | rocode | Cata beta is fun. |
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| 07:31.10 | Jamash | heh |
| 07:37.22 | rocode | On the other end: There is currently a bug with the addon "owner" variable that is supposed to specify character. All savedvariables are going into a character folder called "Custom". |
| 07:37.30 | rocode | Anyone else getting this? |
| 07:39.13 | foxlit | They enabled addons but forgot to enable /run? |
| 07:39.43 | Jamash | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17848-ItsAllCogwheelsFaultrundumpfix.html |
| 07:40.26 | foxlit | I can has LuaPad, so it's np. |
| 07:40.32 | foxlit | Just a bit suprising. |
| 07:41.06 | rocode | Jamash, which probably explains why all my /script macros failed after the alpha. |
| 07:41.18 | Jamash | yes |
| 07:45.04 | rocode | I don't see why they disabled them. They were too complicated for the majority of the population to use, and implementing artifical constraints only led to creative manuevering by the rest. |
| 07:45.43 | Jamash | they wanted a 100% blizzard code environment for testing purposes |
| 07:45.47 | foxlit | There's no creative maneuvering around /run |
| 07:46.16 | rocode | foxlit, you misread what I said. |
| 07:46.28 | rocode | The movement was around the constraints. |
| 07:46.41 | rocode | Which did desanitize the testing environment, I guess. |
| 07:47.21 | foxlit | I can only make sense if what you said if "them" is replaced with "addons", but then it doesn't follow the conversation. |
| 07:47.51 | foxlit | But okay :) |
| 07:48.09 | rocode | Not going to break it down. I do see where the confusion could stem from. <_< |
| 07:48.41 | rocode | ... someone is already requiring a specific GS for premade 5man groups... |
| 07:49.27 | rocode | Innocence lost, really. |
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| 07:59.23 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
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| 08:00.40 | Jamash | Falcon PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCHes Fisker |
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| 08:09.19 | Wobin | http://www.obviouswinner.com/obvwin/2010/6/17/skull-head-monkys-riding-laser-ass-powered-flying-zebras.html |
| 08:09.24 | Wobin | nsfw |
| 08:09.31 | Wobin | and on that note, I'd better go home =P |
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| 09:35.50 | zenzio | this actually made me chuckle... http://www.wowbash.com/image-15681.html |
| 09:36.56 | rocode | Finally, someone dealt with the brat. |
| 09:39.01 | rocode | Thanks for linking the site. Alot of amusement so far. |
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| 10:59.47 | Vilkku | how do I use vehicle skills in macros? |
| 11:00.47 | cbreak_work | tried /use name? |
| 11:00.59 | cbreak_work | or was it /cast... hmm... |
| 11:01.57 | zenzio | someone once told me those are synonymous |
| 11:02.02 | zenzio | never verified it myself |
| 11:02.26 | Vilkku | trying to do the life of the party quest in kezan |
| 11:02.32 | Vilkku | it's bugged |
| 11:02.46 | rocode | Wait |
| 11:02.47 | Vilkku | wanted to see if I could do it with commands |
| 11:02.51 | rocode | How are you on a goblin? |
| 11:03.00 | Vilkku | goblins were enabled with the latest patch |
| 11:03.03 | Vilkku | which was yesterday |
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| 11:03.17 | rocode | ... I woke up this morning and mine was gone. |
| 11:03.20 | rocode | =/ |
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| 11:26.43 | zenzio | "And yes, it does piss me off that I get more reasoned, more accurate, more truthful information about my own country's political processes from news organizations in other nations." |
| 11:27.07 | zenzio | I suspect this, to some degree, applies to most countries these days |
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| 12:19.30 | sylvanaar | i have a suggestion - re: addons compatible with cata |
| 12:19.55 | sylvanaar | add a toc field X-Compatible-With: 40000 |
| 12:20.21 | sylvanaar | this way I can show that In ACP |
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| 12:21.23 | sylvanaar | any thoughts? |
| 12:21.55 | DWSR | Wait, so the discovery hostage thing wasn't a pr stunt? |
| 12:22.08 | A-KO | uhm, no |
| 12:22.16 | A-KO | they evacuated a good portion of Silver Spring yesterday :P |
| 12:22.23 | A-KO | shut down the whole city there |
| 12:22.42 | DWSR | Hey that's kind of exciting. |
| 12:22.48 | Kalroth | The dude had some very good points too |
| 12:22.54 | A-KO | not really, especially on Georgia Avenue, lol |
| 12:23.08 | A-KO | the traffic is bad enough there on a Friday night |
| 12:23.11 | A-KO | let alone rush hour.. |
| 12:23.24 | A-KO | let alone people evacuating... |
| 12:24.02 | A-KO | oh wow |
| 12:24.03 | A-KO | new icon |
| 12:24.15 | A-KO | I'm running it on Windows |
| 12:24.55 | A-KO | holy crap Apple |
| 12:25.01 | A-KO | Itunes 10 actually runs halfway decent on Windows now |
| 12:26.30 | DWSR | Now if only they could get the other half down. |
| 12:26.38 | A-KO | and wow wrong channel |
| 12:26.38 | A-KO | lol |
| 12:26.40 | A-KO | fail |
| 12:26.46 | DWSR | And then support non Apple players. |
| 12:26.53 | A-KO | lol |
| 12:26.55 | A-KO | they won't ever do that |
| 12:27.02 | A-KO | this is Apple we're talking about |
| 12:27.18 | DWSR | They apparently do on the Mac version. |
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| 12:27.39 | A-KO | in other news |
| 12:27.40 | DWSR | It also supports more formats on Mac than it does on Windows. |
| 12:27.42 | A-KO | this new wow streaming shit sucks |
| 12:27.49 | A-KO | it really slows the game down |
| 12:28.01 | A-KO | even if you have a full load |
| 12:28.12 | A-KO | just, whatever changes they made to the system to accomodate this new loading system period, slows shit down |
| 12:28.19 | DWSR | Get a better computer? :p |
| 12:28.22 | A-KO | uhm |
| 12:28.35 | A-KO | I've got a dual core w/ GTX 460, 8G ram, x64 OS, and an SSD |
| 12:28.39 | DWSR | Also, I noticed that it increases initial load time for an area, but after that its fine. |
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| 12:29.11 | A-KO | short of getting an i7 with 12G of ram and a faster SSD on SATA3......lol |
| 12:29.24 | zenzio | ohai peppy |
| 12:29.28 | A-KO | the initial load time sucks period now. |
| 12:29.33 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
| 12:29.41 | DWSR | Clearly, WoW > Crysis for performance demands. |
| 12:29.46 | A-KO | apparently |
| 12:30.15 | DWSR | Do you like your 460, btw? |
| 12:34.10 | A-KO | yeah |
| 12:34.13 | A-KO | it's decent |
| 12:34.17 | A-KO | was a nice upgrade from a 9800GT |
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| 12:34.34 | DWSR | http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=127185813 |
| 12:34.49 | zenzio | would've been even better if you upgraded from a 9800 Pro |
| 12:35.17 | DWSR | Yeah, I have a 9800gtx, but I don't think I'm going to get any better performance seeing as I only have a 1.8ghz dc proc and like 667mhz memory. |
| 12:35.28 | DWSR | Thinking I need to do a mobo overhaul. |
| 12:35.55 | A-KO | jesus |
| 12:35.56 | A-KO | yeah |
| 12:36.00 | A-KO | I'm getting super close to that atm |
| 12:36.08 | A-KO | I've only got a Core 2 duo 2.3Ghz here |
| 12:36.13 | zenzio | I think I went from a 9800 Pro (ATi) to an 8800 (nVidia) |
| 12:36.19 | A-KO | I was gonna bump up to a 3Ghz Core 2 |
| 12:36.21 | A-KO | but it's not worth it |
| 12:36.23 | zenzio | finally had to let go of AGP |
| 12:36.29 | A-KO | might as well just spend the $ on an i5 or i7 |
| 12:36.30 | zenzio | seems so long ago now |
| 12:36.37 | A-KO | lol zenzio |
| 12:36.45 | DWSR | I'm thinking of going 1156 socket so I can get an i5/i7. |
| 12:36.49 | A-KO | I went to PCI-E I think with my 8600 |
| 12:36.52 | A-KO | yeah |
| 12:36.54 | DWSR | But that's expensive |
| 12:36.58 | A-KO | went from 7600 AGP to 8600 PCI-E |
| 12:37.28 | A-KO | it'd be like a $500 purchase for me, and I'd just rather not atm. My PC serves itself quite well for what it does. |
| 12:37.36 | A-KO | rather put the $500 to debts or something |
| 12:37.42 | A-KO | or building a lab |
| 12:37.52 | A-KO | I need to/want to build a small IT lab of sorts |
| 12:42.09 | sylvanaar | any fixed version of clique yet? |
| 12:53.07 | mitch0 | does anyone know of a good tutorial on creating frame backdrops manually? (that is, background texture and border and stuff) |
| 12:55.11 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: Avis did |
| 12:55.27 | jnwhiteh | it was posted on #wowace this morning |
| 12:55.31 | jnwhiteh | I just don't have it on me anywhere. |
| 12:55.45 | sylvanaar | hm ok |
| 12:56.06 | jnwhiteh | sorry I don't have it to hand =/ |
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| 12:56.57 | sylvanaar | do you know the version number? |
| 12:57.29 | jnwhiteh | the version number? |
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| 12:59.07 | sylvanaar | some way for me to tell i have it |
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| 13:00.27 | jnwhiteh | there's no file, just Avis telling me how he fixed Clique. |
| 13:00.32 | jnwhiteh | there's no version, just a line in IRC =) |
| 13:00.45 | mitch0 | !logs |
| 13:00.59 | jnwhiteh | they're not up to date until the end of the day tho, right? |
| 13:01.12 | sylvanaar | ah |
| 13:01.14 | jnwhiteh | ~logs |
| 13:01.14 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily |
| 13:01.59 | jnwhiteh | I've at work now, I have it in my backlog at home |
| 13:02.46 | mitch0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.04 | sylvanaar | not in the logs yet |
| 13:04.05 | mitch0 | <Avis_> 'local id = SpellBook_GetSpellID(frame:GetParent():GetID()); local name, rank = GetSpellName(id, SpellBookFrame.bookType)' didn't seem to work |
| 13:04.05 | mitch0 | +anymore |
| 13:04.05 | mitch0 | <Avis_> so changed to ' local slot = SpellBook_GetSpellBookSlot(frame:GetParent()); local name = GetSpellBookItemName(slot, SpellBookFrame.bookType) ' |
| 13:04.05 | mitch0 | <Avis_> and other stuff like that |
| 13:04.11 | Mikk | ebbeh.. how many Unchaineds does Cindy put up in 25m heroic mode? |
| 13:04.30 | mitch0 | sylvanaar: ^ |
| 13:04.41 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 13:04.56 | jnwhiteh | I wish he had submitted patches to me, that would be more useful |
| 13:04.58 | mitch0 | gimme tutorial on manually creating backrops in return ;) |
| 13:05.04 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: if you get it working, shoot me a patch and I'll <3 you |
| 13:05.04 | sylvanaar | cant live without clique |
| 13:05.06 | jnwhiteh | and get a version posted |
| 13:05.10 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 13:05.16 | jnwhiteh | i've been working for the past few days on clique2 |
| 13:05.22 | jnwhiteh | and when that's done, I'll stop work on Clique1 for Cata |
| 13:05.34 | jnwhiteh | tho clique2 will be out for wotlk before cata |
| 13:07.11 | mitch0 | jnwhiteh: what's wrong with clique1? :) |
| 13:07.13 | Lopeppeppy | loves jnwhiteh right to death! |
| 13:07.56 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: clique2 is better =) |
| 13:08.10 | mitch0 | in what way? better comments? :) |
| 13:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | The code is so new and clean, it sparkles! |
| 13:09.15 | zenzio | it has moar cowbell |
| 13:09.45 | zenzio | also, all variable and function names start with "better" |
| 13:09.50 | Kraps | is 250k K memory normal for firefox? |
| 13:09.58 | mitch0 | it's a bit low |
| 13:09.59 | zenzio | 250 kK? |
| 13:10.19 | Xinhuan | sounds about the memory about 4-5 tabs will use |
| 13:10.50 | Kraps | i have chatzilla |
| 13:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | Mine, with one tab, is at 108K |
| 13:11.16 | zenzio | I'm still confused about the double-K |
| 13:11.39 | mitch0 | my opera with approx 25 tabs is at 340M virtual / 250M resident |
| 13:11.48 | mitch0 | kk = M |
| 13:12.11 | mitch0 | mkay? :) |
| 13:12.27 | zenzio | fair enough, just never heard anyone using that |
| 13:13.53 | Kraps | no, k is thousand |
| 13:14.06 | zenzio | but you used two |
| 13:14.10 | zenzio | 250k K |
| 13:14.22 | Kraps | now i see it |
| 13:15.11 | Kraps | wat the other k is kilobytes |
| 13:15.21 | Kraps | wait* |
| 13:15.48 | zenzio | why not just use M(B)? |
| 13:16.06 | Xinhuan | because the task manager reports memory usage in kb |
| 13:16.22 | Xinhuan | eg "123,456 K" |
| 13:16.23 | zenzio | lazy! |
| 13:16.24 | Xinhuan | is displayed |
| 13:16.34 | Xinhuan | and it would be typed as 123k K :P |
| 13:16.40 | Kraps | ^ |
| 13:17.01 | zenzio | all right, I see your point, though I still disagree with the use |
| 13:17.20 | jnwhiteh | mitch0: you can bind spells to any key or mouse combination, so lalt-lshift-f works |
| 13:17.37 | jnwhiteh | the bindings are only active when you're over a unit frame clique is managing. |
| 13:17.54 | jnwhiteh | I'll be able to add support for custom modifiers |
| 13:18.01 | jnwhiteh | so you can do f-RightClick |
| 13:18.01 | Kraps | distracts zenzio with a pretty picture http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/august/cataglyph_1_small.jpg |
| 13:18.04 | jnwhiteh | and have that be distinct. |
| 13:18.26 | zenzio | is distracted by the shinies |
| 13:19.50 | Kraps | the hell |
| 13:19.56 | Kraps | http://media.mmo-champion.com/images/news/2010/august/cataglyph_1.jpg |
| 13:20.06 | Kraps | yes |
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| 13:21.57 | Jamash | I love how Blizzard thinks rogues work |
| 13:22.11 | Jamash | they have arms 10 feet long, and can poke you in the eye from behind |
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| 13:22.53 | zenzio | somehow I read that as "10 arms 10 feet long" |
| 13:23.04 | Jamash | yeah that too |
| 13:23.20 | cbreak_work | can not parse sentence |
| 13:23.40 | Jamash | nou |
| 13:26.23 | Ackis | good morning, take me to your leader |
| 13:29.22 | ckknight | howdy, Ackis |
| 13:29.24 | ckknight | how's it going? |
| 13:29.46 | Ackis | I feel like utter shit :) |
| 13:29.47 | Ackis | how are you? |
| 13:29.52 | ckknight | I'm alright |
| 13:30.07 | Kalroth | You need more coffee, Ackis! |
| 13:30.11 | ckknight | have to drive four hours in a bit |
| 13:30.19 | Ackis | dragoncon? |
| 13:30.19 | zenzio | you think his leader can do something about you feeling sick? This isn't North Korea or the Vatican |
| 13:30.21 | Kalroth | Loads of coffee is the proper fix for feeling like shit |
| 13:30.33 | Ackis | Kalroth: sinus infection after getting over stomach/intestine virus == knocking me out |
| 13:30.49 | Kalroth | oh |
| 13:30.54 | cbreak_work | we had barbecue today at lunch. |
| 13:30.55 | Ackis | I missed 8 days of work, started back up on Monday and started getting sick again |
| 13:31.12 | zenzio | that's pretty bad luck :-/ |
| 13:31.13 | cbreak_work | Barbecue sauce with the name "Ultra Death" is the propper fix for not feeling like shit. |
| 13:32.09 | Thunder_Child | the fix is death? |
| 13:33.40 | ckknight | Ackis: yea, going to Dragon*Con |
| 13:33.59 | cbreak_work | it doesn't seem to kill you, just make you wish you were |
| 13:36.28 | Kraps | shiiiiiiit check out the trailer http://kotaku.com/5628115/mass-effect-2s-lair-of-the-shadow-broker-looks-romantic |
| 13:37.39 | Ackis | Kraps: $10 for some DLC that'll last an hour :( |
| 13:37.51 | Jamash | man I thought that url said shadow of the colossus 2 |
| 13:38.08 | zenzio | Shwdow Broker of the Colossus |
| 13:38.18 | zenzio | hm... typoing O as W, impressive |
| 13:38.28 | zenzio | wait, A |
| 13:38.33 | Kraps | idk, people keep saying it has quite a bit of content Adys |
| 13:38.37 | zenzio | okay, clearly it's time to go home |
| 13:38.49 | Kraps | Ackis |
| 13:39.25 | Thunder_Child | it's ok zenzio, welcome to my typing when i am not tired |
| 13:40.21 | Ackis | Kraps: based on past experience the DLC is quite short, ME2 and DA:O |
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| 13:43.01 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17863-CliqueCataclysm.html and http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/clique/files/21-r146cata-release/ when it's approved. |
| 13:43.34 | Ackis | that was fast |
| 13:43.42 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: did it for me =) |
| 13:43.45 | jnwhiteh | i just packaged it :P |
| 13:43.46 | Kraps | http://timhowgego.com/wow-communities-map/ |
| 13:43.52 | augustl | jnwhiteh: care to post a diff of the changes to make it cata compatible? |
| 13:44.04 | jnwhiteh | augustl: that is a cata compatible version :P |
| 13:44.06 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 13:44.07 | jnwhiteh | umm. |
| 13:44.08 | jnwhiteh | sure =) |
| 13:44.26 | augustl | uh yeah, the changes you needed to make to make it cata compatible :) |
| 13:44.51 | jnwhiteh | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/780552 |
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| 13:46.32 | augustl | neat |
| 13:46.48 | jnwhiteh | i hate svn |
| 13:46.50 | jnwhiteh | makes me cry now |
| 13:46.53 | jnwhiteh | I need to migrate soon |
| 13:46.56 | augustl | do it |
| 13:47.00 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 13:47.05 | jnwhiteh | I use git for everything |
| 13:47.10 | jnwhiteh | I just have some addons that still use snv |
| 13:47.38 | WyriHaximus | hey |
| 13:47.40 | augustl | I'm sure you're aware of git-svn |
| 13:47.50 | Thunder_Child | DA:O for $15 http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=72850&affID=77777&sourceID=lw9MynSeamY-zIyTSnupKnm1vXosbOkeRw&affID=77777&sourceID=PvTvb1zzm2o-5V_fF6vkUS7llhbv3uChCA |
| 13:47.51 | jnwhiteh | I am, I just haven't looked at it yet |
| 13:47.57 | sylvanaar | i use Hg |
| 13:48.15 | sylvanaar | for both git and svn clients |
| 13:48.27 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 13:48.29 | augustl | git-svn clone http://foo.com/svn_repo git_repo |
| 13:48.37 | sylvanaar | i wrote a tutorial |
| 13:48.38 | augustl | voila |
| 13:48.52 | Jamash | git sucks imo |
| 13:49.06 | sylvanaar | http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/tortoise-hg-as-a-git-client/ |
| 13:49.07 | mitch0 | I prefer hg over git, too |
| 13:49.09 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: I obviously disagree, but than you for your opinion. |
| 13:49.23 | sylvanaar | http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/tortoise-hg-as-an-svn-client/ |
| 13:49.23 | augustl | I like how git exposes it's inner workings |
| 13:49.28 | cbreak_work | git's the best scm that has blessed the network with it's presence |
| 13:49.38 | Jamash | I love having to check out 700MB of data to compile a linux kernel |
| 13:49.45 | sylvanaar | i like Hg because its not from an OS vendor |
| 13:49.52 | Ackis | http://kb.curseforge.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ |
| 13:49.52 | Jamash | s/love/hate/ |
| 13:49.54 | cbreak_work | neither is git |
| 13:50.04 | sylvanaar | linus wrote it |
| 13:50.13 | cbreak_work | and git doesn't require you to clone the whole repo if you want to compile the kernel |
| 13:50.16 | cbreak_work | just do a sparse clone |
| 13:50.17 | augustl | linus started it, at least. |
| 13:50.22 | cbreak_work | linus is not a vendor |
| 13:50.28 | cbreak_work | he's the master integrator! |
| 13:50.30 | Jamash | you mean a partial clone that you can't update ever? |
| 13:50.31 | sylvanaar | hes like bill gates |
| 13:50.41 | Jamash | which is still 300MB? |
| 13:50.49 | cbreak_work | Jamash: the kernel is big. |
| 13:50.56 | cbreak_work | a sparse clone gets you only the files you need |
| 13:50.58 | augustl | Jamash: what's the actual complaint? That the repo contains more than you need? |
| 13:51.01 | cog|sleep | ZvZ is so imba... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqVX9Th48_s |
| 13:51.02 | cbreak_work | in a nicely compressed form |
| 13:51.18 | Jamash | git is designed to make linus's life easier at the expense of everyone else |
| 13:51.21 | augustl | Jamash: or in other words, that you can't clone only parts of the repo? |
| 13:51.35 | cbreak_work | git makes everyones life easier |
| 13:51.39 | Jamash | my complaint is that I can't just get the latest version |
| 13:51.42 | cbreak_work | as long as they are able to use it |
| 13:51.48 | cbreak_work | Jamash: sure you can... |
| 13:51.49 | augustl | Jamash: how do you think that applies to "none linux" usage of git? I can't think of anything in git that makes my life harder :) |
| 13:51.52 | sylvanaar | git doesnt work well enough on windows - and there is little interest in that from git's creator |
| 13:51.52 | jnwhiteh | I've found hg a bit counter intuitive compared to git |
| 13:51.54 | cbreak_work | read what I wrote above: sparse clone |
| 13:51.56 | jnwhiteh | but I'm bizarre |
| 13:52.03 | sylvanaar | TortoiseHg is the bomb |
| 13:52.08 | Jamash | and that if your connection drops while cloning you have to start over |
| 13:52.14 | augustl | sylvanaar: true, git isn't very windows friendly |
| 13:52.34 | cbreak_work | connection drop? |
| 13:52.34 | augustl | the problem is that windows isn't UNIX. BOOOOOM |
| 13:52.34 | Jamash | which means if your connection is unreliable you can never, ever finish checking out |
| 13:52.34 | cbreak_work | what is that? battle.net? |
| 13:53.15 | augustl | Jamash: tbh the linux repo is an edge case for most people |
| 13:53.29 | Jamash | I was having network driver issues, and was trying to check out a modified kernel with a newer driver |
| 13:53.30 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://pandastuff.tumblr.com/post/1037159097/via-www-ce-cn |
| 13:53.31 | Jamash | and I couldn't |
| 13:53.41 | Jamash | it was literally impossible |
| 13:53.52 | cbreak_work | I've been working with git since over two years, and never had such problems. |
| 13:53.58 | augustl | Jamash: that's interesting. This was because of a unstable network? |
| 13:53.59 | cbreak_work | maybe your provider sucks. |
| 13:54.13 | Jamash | wifi issue |
| 13:54.22 | augustl | afaik a interrupt will rm the directory it started downloading to, right? |
| 13:54.28 | Jamash | yyyyyyyyup |
| 13:54.34 | cbreak_work | cloning not being resumable is something they don't like afaik, but you can get around that by initing/fetching I think |
| 13:54.59 | Jamash | you could also get around it by not using git |
| 13:55.02 | augustl | cbreak_work: so they do support to continue downloading, it's just that clone doesn't do it? |
| 13:55.11 | augustl | Jamash: tradeoffs are everywhere ;) |
| 13:55.30 | cbreak_work | I think it's clone that removes traces on failure |
| 13:55.42 | cbreak_work | maybe fetch does that too, but I thought it is incremental |
| 13:55.58 | Jamash | seriously when providing daily .tar.gz is better than using a SCC then maybe your SCC sucks |
| 13:55.59 | cbreak_work | git is careful to not break anything, so removing traces of a failed operation is a conservative approach |
| 13:56.16 | cbreak_work | git is better than an archive :) |
| 13:56.27 | cbreak_work | not seen an scm that beats git |
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| 13:57.18 | augustl | Jamash: git is very different in the way it provides a cryptographic guard against corruption.. So it makes sense that other parts of git - such as cloning - has a uncorrupted or nothing type policy |
| 13:57.30 | Jamash | I can resume downloading a .tar.gz, I can't resume git clone, who wins? .tar.gz |
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| 13:57.58 | Wobin | http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7yzddkilP1qbxuku.gif |
| 13:58.02 | augustl | in the edge case where resuming a git clone is needed ;) |
| 13:58.22 | augustl | to most people this isn't a problem. So solving it by providing a tar.gz isn't that crazy imo |
| 13:59.07 | Kraps | i read git clone as girl clone |
| 13:59.07 | Jamash | also a .tar.bz2 of a linux kernel is what, 40MB? |
| 13:59.17 | Jamash | and git clone is 700MB? |
| 13:59.32 | Wobin | also http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l33augjxKT1qc4fbco1_500.jpg |
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| 13:59.52 | Jamash | I don't really need the version history of the kernel from the dawn of human civilization in order to compile it |
| 13:59.55 | augustl | Jamash: really? I'm pretty sure git packs before sending |
| 13:59.57 | augustl | hmm |
| 14:00.11 | augustl | Jamash: you can shallow clone |
| 14:00.11 | cbreak_work | git packs more efficiently than normal compression algorithms |
| 14:00.20 | cbreak_work | but unless you do a sparse clone, you get all of history |
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| 14:00.56 | Jamash | "A shallow repository has a number of limitations (you cannot clone or fetch from it, nor push from nor into it)" |
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| 14:01.09 | augustl | hmm, shallow repos are a bit lame |
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| 14:01.13 | cbreak_work | yeah. you don't need that anyway |
| 14:01.30 | Jamash | also when I tried that it was still 300MB |
| 14:01.43 | cbreak_work | yes, but it is compressed in transfer |
| 14:01.43 | augustl | 300MB when packed? |
| 14:02.01 | Jamash | I mean the client itself reported that it had to download 300MB of data |
| 14:02.01 | cbreak_work | you should look at the unpacked size of the sources :) |
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| 14:04.08 | Kalroth | linux-2.6.35.tar.bz2 is 66M! |
| 14:05.44 | cbreak_work | text compression is fairly good with bz2 |
| 14:05.53 | cbreak_work | the sources are probably 5 times as big |
| 14:06.26 | Kalroth | they should use 7z, it's even better |
| 14:06.34 | cbreak_work | how big is a compiled kernel? |
| 14:07.11 | Jamash | pretty small |
| 14:07.16 | Kalroth | no idea, a few megs I guess? |
| 14:07.33 | cbreak_work | so gcc > bz2... :/ probably lossy though. |
| 14:07.34 | Ackis | so is there a way to tell what your GS is w/o running the mod? |
| 14:07.42 | cbreak_work | Ackis: too low. |
| 14:07.45 | Kalroth | ingame or online? |
| 14:07.51 | Ackis | :P |
| 14:07.52 | Jamash | compilation <> compression |
| 14:07.53 | augustl | I guess there's stuff for armory |
| 14:08.07 | Kalroth | http://wtfismygearscore.com/ |
| 14:08.22 | Jamash | my kernel is about 4MB |
| 14:08.30 | augustl | 4830, YEAH |
| 14:08.35 | Ackis | love you Kalroth |
| 14:08.44 | Ackis | 4726 wewt |
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| 14:08.52 | Kalroth | linux kernel sources would be a lot smaller if you cut all the comments :) |
| 14:09.02 | Jamash | ... |
| 14:09.11 | augustl | something for 3.0 |
| 14:09.24 | Jamash | or if you rewrote it in forth |
| 14:09.33 | augustl | or whitespace |
| 14:09.43 | Jamash | I saw a perl module to do that |
| 14:10.08 | Kraps | so Christina Hendricks has huge tracts of land http://www.wwtdd.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/christinahendricksemmys.jpg |
| 14:10.19 | Jamash | replaces the entire source of the script with tabs and spaces |
| 14:11.45 | Kalroth | Kraps: She knows the power of them babies! |
| 14:11.58 | alestane | ...and a fairly dreadful dress. |
| 14:12.17 | Kalroth | why are you looking at the dress |
| 14:12.22 | Kalroth | some guys, sheeeesh! |
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| 14:12.25 | augustl | the hips are silly |
| 14:13.17 | augustl | but I agree Kalroth, with a neck like that..! (see what I did thar?) |
| 14:14.09 | zenzelezz | "omg I gave everyone access to my system now its all vulnerable!" http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2010/09/02/10057047.aspx |
| 14:14.12 | mikma | why in the le fuck have they disbanded all guilds again |
| 14:14.16 | cogwheel | huge tracts of silicone imo |
| 14:14.48 | Jamash | zenzelezz: palm, meet face |
| 14:15.10 | jnwhiteh | anyone know live's build number? |
| 14:15.29 | Jamash | for a good time call 382-555- oh you mean wow |
| 14:16.03 | Jamash | 3.3.5.12340 |
| 14:16.13 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 14:16.14 | augustl | 3.3.5? lolz |
| 14:16.16 | jnwhiteh | i dont have a current live scan |
| 14:16.18 | jnwhiteh | me fixes that. |
| 14:16.40 | augustl | I wonder what WoW is version controller with |
| 14:16.47 | augustl | controlled* |
| 14:17.34 | jnwhiteh | svn afaik |
| 14:17.35 | Jamash | probably rcs version 1 |
| 14:18.06 | Kraps | cogwheel: are you sure? |
| 14:18.29 | cogwheel | not from the pic you linked, no |
| 14:18.53 | cogwheel | http://news.makemeheal.com/celebrity-plastic-surgery/christina-hendricks-breast-implants/ |
| 14:19.06 | jnwhiteh | ummmmm. |
| 14:19.16 | augustl | cogwheel: +1 for citing sources :) |
| 14:19.27 | cogwheel | hehe |
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| 14:19.54 | jnwhiteh | launcher just decided I have no data files. |
| 14:19.55 | augustl | "But they have a distinct roundness that seems like they could just as easily be the results of implants that help enhance her breasts." awesome |
| 14:20.04 | augustl | almost like a poem |
| 14:20.12 | p3lim^ | wUNIT_HEAL_PREDICTION + UnitGetIncomingHealth(), is that like HealComm? |
| 14:20.17 | Jamash | yes |
| 14:20.56 | jnwhiteh | I',m trying to disable Blizzard_FeedbackUI |
| 14:21.03 | jnwhiteh | but the normal way I do it isn't working |
| 14:21.09 | jnwhiteh | it'll taint my scans if I leave it up =/ |
| 14:21.25 | p3lim^ | DisableAddOn('Blizzard_FeedbackUI') ? |
| 14:21.27 | Kraps | wow, thats way more info on breast implants than i ever need to know |
| 14:21.40 | jnwhiteh | p3lim^: does not work |
| 14:21.45 | p3lim^ | hm |
| 14:21.52 | Jamash | are you scanning tooltips? |
| 14:21.54 | p3lim^ | Jamash: that yes was for me? |
| 14:22.00 | Jamash | p3lim^: yes |
| 14:22.08 | p3lim^ | ok, neato :) |
| 14:22.09 | augustl | a comment: "My breasts are in a similar shape&siz" and I'm like PICS OR GTFO |
| 14:22.09 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: add a Blizzard_FeedbackUI in the addons folder, with an empty .toc? |
| 14:22.17 | jnwhiteh | does that work? |
| 14:23.15 | Ackis | DWSR: the cake is a lie |
| 14:24.17 | jnwhiteh | Maldivia: nope, gets loaded anyway |
| 14:24.29 | Maldivia | yeah, the addon folder gets renamed |
| 14:24.35 | Kraps | k itunes is fucking stupid |
| 14:24.48 | Lopeppeppy | yes, yes it is. :) |
| 14:24.48 | Jamash | or you could disable the tooltips by right-clicking on the "B" logo on the minimap |
| 14:25.00 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: that solves only part of the problem |
| 14:25.05 | Jamash | yeah? |
| 14:25.27 | Kraps | "dur restart you computer cuz i'm such a system changing program" |
| 14:25.37 | augustl | Kraps: yes |
| 14:25.44 | Jamash | I have developed a system for dealing with itunes |
| 14:25.53 | Jamash | which is to uninstall itunes and use something else |
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| 14:26.36 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 14:26.38 | jnwhiteh | only one new widget type |
| 14:26.40 | Kraps | i need to see if my brother still needs it |
| 14:26.41 | jnwhiteh | ArchaeologyDigSiteFrame |
| 14:26.44 | augustl | Jamash: suddenly the iPhone and the sync |
| 14:27.09 | jnwhiteh | same deal as the QuestPOI frames |
| 14:27.12 | jnwhiteh | DrawBlob and not much else. |
| 14:27.14 | Jamash | oh well if you bought an iphone you're already damned |
| 14:27.22 | augustl | Ping being a iTunes thing and not a webapp is troubling me. A step in the wrong direction for my concern |
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| 14:28.25 | Jamash | jnwhiteh: so what problem are you having that disabling the tooltips doesn't fix? |
| 14:28.35 | jnwhiteh | it taints the shit out of the UI |
| 14:28.36 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 14:28.37 | Jamash | ah |
| 14:28.49 | Kraps | this is more troubling http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC500LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDEwMQ&mco=MTg4Mjg5MTU |
| 14:28.52 | jnwhiteh | so stuff gets moved from the 'Blizzard' to the 'non'secure' list. |
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| 14:30.11 | Jamash | hmm, that's odd, the UI I extracted from the beta doesn't have the feedback addon |
| 14:30.25 | jnwhiteh | its not getting the right interface, afaik |
| 14:30.30 | jnwhiteh | there's an issue with the tool on cata |
| 14:30.49 | Jamash | I'm not using the tool, I'm using the latest beta of mpqedit |
| 14:30.57 | jnwhiteh | ah, well then =) |
| 14:31.04 | augustl | Kraps: I have one :) |
| 14:31.07 | Maldivia | Jamash: the feedback is in base, not in the localization |
| 14:31.11 | Jamash | ah |
| 14:31.12 | jnwhiteh | API Diff from 3.3.5 -> Cataclysm current |
| 14:31.14 | jnwhiteh | http://apidiff.pastey.net/140290 |
| 14:31.23 | augustl | Kraps: it's small and it fits perfectly in with my two wireless devices that each takes 2 batteries |
| 14:31.33 | Kraps | augustl: then there is no redemption for your soul |
| 14:31.35 | Maldivia | hmm |
| 14:31.53 | augustl | Kraps: pff. Are there any similar battery chargers? |
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| 14:33.34 | p3lim^ | wth.. |
| 14:33.35 | p3lim^ | TexCoordModifiesRect and frame backdrops are deprecated. |
| 14:33.46 | p3lim^ | Are they removing the whole backdrop system? |
| 14:33.53 | Kraps | there are devices that charge batteries yes |
| 14:33.57 | Jamash | Maldivia: You sure about that? |
| 14:34.17 | augustl | Kraps: that are small? |
| 14:34.24 | augustl | or, as small? |
| 14:34.26 | Maldivia | Jamash: yes, wow-update-12805.MPG:/base/Interface/Addons/... |
| 14:34.35 | Maldivia | 12857* |
| 14:34.53 | Maldivia | it's present in all the updates as fill (not bin-patches) |
| 14:34.54 | Kraps | meh, i just buy in bulk from amazon |
| 14:34.59 | augustl | :) |
| 14:35.18 | Kraps | or was it tigerdirect? |
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| 14:35.37 | Jamash | ah, got it |
| 14:36.21 | Maldivia | ok, first thing I did was to create an addon that reenabled /run and /dump :P |
| 14:37.27 | jnwhiteh | cog posted one yesterday |
| 14:37.37 | Jamash | no, I posted one yesterday |
| 14:37.40 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: DisableAddOn("Blizzard_FeedbackUI") ReloadUI() -- worked fine to disable the feedback UI |
| 14:37.51 | Jamash | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17848-ItsAllCogwheelsFaultrundumpfix.html |
| 14:37.57 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 14:37.59 | jnwhiteh | duh |
| 14:38.03 | jnwhiteh | i didn't have those slahs commands enabled. |
| 14:38.05 | jnwhiteh | i'm an idiot. |
| 14:38.08 | jnwhiteh | i'll rescan in a sec |
| 14:38.12 | Jamash | ha ha ha ha ha |
| 14:38.35 | Kraps | check this shit out http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Coppertop-AAA-Count-Pack/dp/B002UXRXE6/ref=dp_cp_ob_e_title_1 |
| 14:38.36 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: IsGMClient is local-cached in the ChatFrame file, so you have to make the slash commands yourself :P |
| 14:38.40 | Kraps | awesome |
| 14:38.45 | Jamash | ./target jnwhiteh /point /laugh |
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| 14:39.45 | Maldivia | so... where is the Uldum breadcrumb quests - or are they not available if you haven't done Deepholm? |
| 14:40.25 | Jamash | durp gotta go fly to seattle |
| 14:40.27 | augustl | takes pride in only having tested < level 60 content in the beta |
| 14:40.33 | Jamash | and boy will my arms be tired |
| 14:41.32 | Kraps | Jamash: are you hand-cycling there? |
| 14:41.39 | Jamash | 26 hours till pax woo |
| 14:41.57 | jnwhiteh | holy shit stable slots. |
| 14:42.22 | Jamash | Kraps: nah I'm building wings out of goose feathers and wax |
| 14:42.40 | Kraps | dont fly too high then |
| 14:42.49 | Jamash | pfft, what could go wrong |
| 14:42.59 | Ackis | Jamash: you're going to pax? |
| 14:43.06 | Jamash | Ackis: Yes! |
| 14:43.31 | Ackis | get me a noble 6 helmet avatar item and a pax t-shirt avatar item for my xbox 360! :D they're free!!!!! :D :D :D /grovel |
| 14:43.40 | Jamash | XD |
| 14:43.45 | Ackis | please |
| 14:43.46 | Ackis | hehe |
| 14:44.01 | Jamash | mmk, what do I need to do? |
| 14:44.13 | Ackis | no clue, I'm guessing the xbox peeps will have them |
| 14:44.22 | Jamash | I'll be sure to look for it |
| 14:44.33 | Ackis | much appreciated if you do |
| 14:44.49 | Ackis | don't go out of your way or anything but if you see an opportunity, think of me :D |
| 14:44.49 | jnwhiteh | Fixed diff: http://apidiff.pastey.net/140291 |
| 14:46.39 | Jamash | awesome, that'll be a lot of help updating my addon |
| 14:49.23 | Jamash | ok seriously really have to finish packing and go to the airport |
| 14:51.29 | Thunder_Child | http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_britain_hawking |
| 14:53.48 | jnwhiteh | WowLua fixed |
| 14:53.52 | Kraps | mehs |
| 14:54.47 | augustl | yay, does this mean the atheists won? |
| 14:55.01 | Kraps | umm |
| 14:55.10 | Kraps | lets talk about prop 8 |
| 14:55.35 | Kalroth | atheists won a long time ago |
| 14:55.56 | malreth | kicks Fisker in the kidneys |
| 14:56.10 | Kalroth | poor Fisker :(( |
| 14:58.36 | Kraps | "Hey these batteries are just incredible. If, for example, you're using them for a remote control, you just put them in the remote control and then the remote control works! " |
| 14:58.42 | Kraps | bahahaha |
| 14:59.02 | Kraps | "And if you're using them in a flashlight, and you're bummed because when you turn on the flashlight it doesn't do any lighting up of anything, just pop a couple of these babies in there and you'll be able to find the button you dropped under the bed or the prowler sneaking around the side of the house." |
| 14:59.24 | Kraps | "These batteries are really just great batteries all around, and I think the Duracell color scheme totally blows away any other battery's color scheme. I mean, Energizer? Gimme a break!" |
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| 15:08.35 | Kraps | http://twitter.com/palinslation/ |
| 15:10.01 | sylvanaar | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26723612465&postId=267208776863&sid=2000#0 |
| 15:10.37 | sylvanaar | i had a gentlemans agreement with rophy not to put ACP on wowi, but it doesnt seem like hes around anymore |
| 15:10.43 | sylvanaar | anyone seen him? |
| 15:11.08 | sylvanaar | ~seen rophy |
| 15:11.16 | purl | rophy <n=root@196.205.207.180> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 875d 22h 29m 53s ago, saying: 'okay thanxx'. |
| 15:11.17 | sylvanaar | meh |
| 15:11.33 | sylvanaar | 875d |
| 15:11.40 | jnwhiteh | sylvanaar: |
| 15:11.47 | jnwhiteh | you should support min-compat as well |
| 15:11.57 | jnwhiteh | i dont see a way to specify a range in what you have |
| 15:12.01 | jnwhiteh | since WowLua works with both |
| 15:12.07 | jnwhiteh | but Clique/Cata only works with Cata |
| 15:12.22 | jnwhiteh | just wondering in the grand scheme of things :P |
| 15:12.33 | sylvanaar | for min, you just set the interface to 40000 i think |
| 15:12.40 | sylvanaar | but, its a good idea |
| 15:13.00 | Maldivia | what... |
| 15:13.13 | sylvanaar | this is so you can keep your interface version at 30300 |
| 15:13.15 | Maldivia | Exorcism hit You 17045 Holy... |
| 15:13.32 | sylvanaar | ill add (outdated) |
| 15:13.59 | jnwhiteh | okay |
| 15:14.02 | jnwhiteh | addons updated |
| 15:14.05 | jnwhiteh | signing off IRC for a bit |
| 15:14.09 | jnwhiteh | so I don't get distracted again =) |
| 15:14.13 | sylvanaar | =) |
| 15:17.35 | Sliker | What's the EU guild? I haven't known since the wipe |
| 15:18.47 | Maldivia | great, first quest in Uldum, and I have no idea w hat to do :P |
| 15:19.15 | Wobin | Maldivia: quick, go to wowhead! =P |
| 15:22.13 | Maldivia | ok, it was just buggy, was doing the right thing, but didn't work the forst 6 times :P |
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| 15:28.34 | zenzelezz | "It appears that Cincinnati Bengals cheerleader Sarah Jones and her lawyer were so upset by a comment on the site TheDirty.com that they missed the 'y' at the end of the name. Instead, they sued the owner of TheDirt.com, whose owner didn't respond to the lawsuit. The end result was a judge awarding $11 million, in part because of the failure to respond." |
| 15:28.39 | zenzelezz | http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/09/02/1250224/Woman-Wins-Libel-Suit-By-Suing-Wrong-Website |
| 15:28.46 | Wobin | cogwheel: Just saw your tweet scroll past on the unhearit feed =P |
| 15:28.52 | zenzelezz | I have great faith in the US justice system |
| 15:28.55 | cogwheel | Wobin: =) |
| 15:29.42 | Wobin | now has 'What is Love?' |
| 15:30.09 | cogwheel | i got a song i'd never heard before but really like |
| 15:30.26 | cogwheel | Suht Up and Let Me Go |
| 15:30.30 | cogwheel | Shut* |
| 15:32.00 | mikma | !wowalert |
| 15:32.03 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 15:32.04 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 15:32.41 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/092010/operation_never_give_him_up.jpg |
| 15:33.14 | Shirik | Cide: pong? |
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| 15:40.43 | Wobin | omg |
| 15:40.44 | Wobin | http://lifehacker.com/5628318/try-out-chromes-side-tabs-in-the-canary-build |
| 15:40.45 | Wobin | omg |
| 15:41.17 | cogwheel | too long coming |
| 15:41.35 | cogwheel | wide screens demand more vertical stuff like that |
| 15:41.47 | cogwheel | the win7 taskbar is hawt in vertical orientation |
| 15:41.54 | Wobin | inorite? |
| 15:42.06 | Wobin | it's really been the only thing stopping me from moving from FF |
| 15:42.17 | Wobin | all it needs is a little more functionality |
| 15:42.22 | Wobin | in regards to branching |
| 15:44.24 | mikma | is there a official page for chrome 7.x? |
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| 15:45.14 | Shirik | Heh |
| 15:45.22 | Shirik | Wikipedia just agreed to delete [[Template:Do not delete]] |
| 15:45.32 | mikma | omg lol lol lol. |
| 15:45.39 | Wobin | oh nice, works on non canary builds |
| 15:46.22 | Cide | Shirik: your reply time is epic |
| 15:46.33 | Shirik | Cide: inorite? |
| 15:46.52 | Cide | yes |
| 15:46.58 | A-KO | lol holy shit |
| 15:46.59 | Shirik | well if you would stop (17:43:30)  -› Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) ing |
| 15:47.01 | A-KO | another oil rig exploded |
| 15:47.05 | Shirik | ??? |
| 15:47.07 | Shirik | seriously? |
| 15:47.09 | A-KO | yes |
| 15:47.11 | A-KO | 80 miles off the coast of LA |
| 15:47.14 | A-KO | Louisiana |
| 15:47.19 | A-KO | http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/02/rescue-efforts-underway-after-oil-rig-accident-in-gulf/ |
| 15:47.25 | Wobin | are we reaching the end of warranty periods or something? |
| 15:47.56 | Cide | at least it's not BP |
| 15:48.22 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 15:48.25 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:48.25 | Cide | they need S.M.A.R.T. |
| 15:48.30 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 15:48.34 | Fisker | naw cogwheel |
| 15:48.39 | Fisker | vertical shit still sucks |
| 15:48.43 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:49.24 | Fisker | i can destroy you in spam |
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| 15:51.09 | Lunessa | station |
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| 15:57.36 | cog|work | station, my friend, station |
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| 15:59.43 | A-KO | all this shit is |
| 15:59.48 | A-KO | is poor maintenance |
| 15:59.51 | A-KO | because maintenance costs too much |
| 16:00.02 | sylvanaar | Shirik: i uploaded into the wrong place, can you move acp to cata beta |
| 16:00.11 | A-KO | "that belt looks old and worn, you should replace it soon." "nah it still works" *SNAP!* |
| 16:00.12 | Shirik | link please? |
| 16:00.23 | sylvanaar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17869-AddonControlPanel.html |
| 16:01.26 | Fisker | FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 16:01.30 | Shirik | oh it's not even approved yet |
| 16:01.31 | cog|work | sker |
| 16:01.31 | Fisker | login server busy |
| 16:02.06 | sylvanaar | Shirik: no not approved yet |
| 16:02.26 | TC-Work | hmm....is 1" worth $100? |
| 16:02.36 | sylvanaar | thanks |
| 16:02.44 | Shirik | done and approved |
| 16:02.54 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 16:02.57 | Fisker | give me the login server |
| 16:02.57 | sylvanaar | thanks again |
| 16:02.58 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 16:03.01 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:03.01 | Fisker | also Shirik |
| 16:03.03 | Shirik | here you go |
| 16:03.21 | Shirik | http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://media.biola.edu/it/files/firstclass/FC_server.png&imgrefurl=http://offices.biola.edu/it/services/email/firstclass-installation/&usg=__Rj9RSnvLbFgU4j-VLqMD_dJzRaY=&h=316&w=475&sz=95&hl=en&start=0&sig2=4kUARNAGLykuC7CCzZxO7w&zoom=1&tbnid=PAn92I0AmBzVzM:&tbnh=155&tbnw=215&ei=wsp_TI64CoOdlgfZ8vm2Dg&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlogin%2Bserver%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D640%26gbv% |
| 16:03.26 | Shirik | wow that's a massive URL |
| 16:03.27 | Shirik | wtf |
| 16:03.29 | cog|work | facebleed |
| 16:03.33 | Fisker | reported for bypassing the nessecary approval process Shirik |
| 16:03.34 | Shirik | I really hate the new google images |
| 16:03.53 | Shirik | http://www.wowgoldfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/login-server-down.jpg |
| 16:03.54 | Fisker | what is biola? |
| 16:04.05 | Fisker | that's from a year ago Shirik |
| 16:04.08 | Fisker | you don't fool me |
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| 16:18.30 | Lunessa | TC-Work: that question is funny, because it all depends on what the 1" if an inch of... |
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| 16:20.55 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHeyO2W8aPU |
| 16:21.38 | Spejnar | are addons enabled in cata now? |
| 16:21.43 | cog|work | y |
| 16:21.44 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 16:21.53 | Spejnar | ah, that explains why clique was updated with *cata* |
| 16:22.06 | Spejnar | any big API/interface changes? |
| 16:24.27 | Spejnar | nm, checking the forum |
| 16:26.41 | jnwhiteh | Spejnar: http://apidiff.pastey.net/140291 |
| 16:26.43 | p3lim^ | Spejnar: http://apidiff.pastey.net/140291 |
| 16:26.46 | p3lim^ | gah |
| 16:26.52 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:27.01 | Spejnar | yeah, just spam me |
| 16:27.02 | Spejnar | :( |
| 16:27.10 | alestane | Intereting, the SC2 AI will actually surrender. |
| 16:27.21 | Ackis | Spejnar: http://apidiff.pastey.net/140291 |
| 16:27.22 | p3lim^ | gonna go get me some pudding.. |
| 16:27.28 | p3lim^ | Ackis: <3 |
| 16:27.30 | Spejnar | *slaps Ackis* |
| 16:28.21 | Spejnar | is there any list of addons added to default UI other than power auras? |
| 16:29.10 | Ackis | I should patent ackis recipe list so when blizz adds it in in wow 10.0 I can sue |
| 16:29.26 | Spejnar | good luck with that |
| 16:29.34 | TC-Work | Lunessa: monitor |
| 16:29.45 | p3lim^ | Spejnar: LibHealComm, Grid |
| 16:30.11 | Spejnar | p3lim^: sure its grid? Ive seen lots of ppl QQing about it sucking more than grid |
| 16:30.17 | Spejnar | but then again, ppl QQ about everything |
| 16:30.23 | Lunessa | TC-Work: an extra K? are we talking the difference between 19" and 20" or 29" and 30"? |
| 16:30.25 | Legorol | Spejnar: technicallly, Blizzard is not adding the addons themselves as such. |
| 16:30.31 | Legorol | They just take the idea and make their own version. |
| 16:30.36 | jnwhiteh | its not Grid, but its a grid-shaped raid frame |
| 16:30.38 | Spejnar | Legorol: yes ofc |
| 16:30.39 | TC-Work | Lunessa: not K $100 |
| 16:30.44 | TC-Work | from 22" to 23" |
| 16:30.49 | jnwhiteh | i.e. compact raid frames, which is what they're called =) |
| 16:30.50 | Spejnar | jnwhiteh: what about customization for it? |
| 16:30.57 | jnwhiteh | there's not much |
| 16:30.59 | jnwhiteh | as there wouldn't be |
| 16:31.02 | Lunessa | Oh. Then yes, the extra inch is work the extra $100 |
| 16:31.03 | Spejnar | i.e. can you show/hide every diff type of debuff? |
| 16:31.04 | jnwhiteh | in a Blizzard addon |
| 16:31.06 | Legorol | I'll be very happy with a Blizz version of Grid. Grid uses a lot of resources and lowers my fps too much in 25-man raids |
| 16:31.35 | Legorol | yes my computer sucks, but unfortunatley i have to live with it |
| 16:31.36 | jnwhiteh | ..they're made to be easy |
| 16:31.40 | jnwhiteh | to use |
| 16:31.40 | Lunessa | The new blizzard raid frames are very basic. But they are pretty useful for all that. |
| 16:31.57 | Spejnar | jnwhiteh: I feel a raid frame not showing every single debuff is easier to use than the other way around :) |
| 16:31.58 | Legorol | I do wonder, did Blizzard QA really test all raid encounters with just the default UI |
| 16:32.09 | jnwhiteh | well try it out, and see. |
| 16:32.11 | Legorol | some things are very hard to notice on the default UI, such as getting a debuff you need to run with |
| 16:32.26 | Spejnar | focus on boss and hope he has cast time on all the instant-kill-abilities |
| 16:32.55 | Legorol | well you do get a debuff icon, if you are used to playing with default UI, presumably you learn to keep watching that area |
| 16:32.57 | Legorol | it's just paaain |
| 16:33.27 | Spejnar | I almost use def ui for my tank, bossmod, grid added on top |
| 16:33.38 | Spejnar | grid can be removed if default frames show aggro |
| 16:33.43 | Legorol | they do already |
| 16:33.46 | Spejnar | oh |
| 16:33.50 | Spejnar | never even checked |
| 16:33.58 | Spejnar | way too used to grid for every class |
| 16:34.01 | Legorol | on current live version, the raid frames put a tiny red dot next to the person who has aggro |
| 16:34.05 | Legorol | and yellow dot for imminent aggro |
| 16:34.08 | Legorol | very hard to see though imo |
| 16:34.09 | Lopeppeppy | Tiny dots. |
| 16:34.12 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 16:34.17 | Lopeppeppy | But it's a beginning! |
| 16:34.19 | Spejnar | same as my grid then |
| 16:34.22 | Spejnar | i.e. the red dot |
| 16:34.28 | Legorol | Lopeppeppy: as long as it's not the beginning of the end.. |
| 16:34.29 | Spejnar | well, its a square |
| 16:34.38 | Legorol | in Grid it stands out more |
| 16:34.38 | Lopeppeppy | I have used sRaid and PerfectRaid before, those turn the entire frame a pretty color. |
| 16:34.58 | Lopeppeppy | Not some teensy dot that a poor blind healer has to squint at! Whack-a-mole is hard on the eyes. |
| 16:35.07 | Legorol | hehe |
| 16:35.17 | Spejnar | pretty sure Grid has the ability to color the border on aggro also |
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| 16:36.09 | Lopeppeppy | That wouldn't be enough for me. I said it jokingly, but the eye strain of being a healer means I like my indicators BIG! |
| 16:36.24 | Spejnar | I have a big indicator for you! |
| 16:37.41 | Spejnar | god damnit. 24h maintenace was only 15h yesterday and today the servers go down 45min before the moved raid from yesterday is to start, gg |
| 16:37.47 | Lopeppeppy | That's what he said. |
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| 16:40.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i bet peppy likes everything big. |
| 16:40.49 | Lunessa | is trying not to make further off-color remarks. |
| 16:41.56 | Lopeppeppy | Chocolate sundaes should be big. |
| 16:42.02 | cog|work | and boots |
| 16:42.08 | Lopeppeppy | Morning to you too, Lunessa dear. |
| 16:42.20 | Lunessa | Morning. :) |
| 16:42.50 | Lopeppeppy | My turn to batten the hatches for Hurricane Earl, rawr. |
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| 16:46.14 | NightHawkTheSane | you and cowboy hats. |
| 16:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 16:46.22 | NightHawkTheSane | i have no idea how that "you" got in there. |
| 16:46.35 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 16:46.44 | NightHawkTheSane | you know what else needs to be big? sips of my coffee, apparently. |
| 16:48.12 | Lopeppeppy | Yes dear. Drink more coffee before bantering with the Peppy! I don't need to be big, I'm a gnome, not a dwarf. |
| 16:48.44 | Lunessa | You're small, but you're real, yo! |
| 16:49.12 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, all natural Peppy. |
| 16:49.30 | Lunessa | was referencing the male gnome /silly |
| 16:50.30 | cog|work | Lunessa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqVX9Th48_s <-- I think you'll understand this even without playing :P |
| 16:50.59 | alestane | Well, good. I can at least beat the SC2 AI on very easy and on easy. Watching replays is helping me remember things like injecting and chrono boost. |
| 16:51.34 | alestane | And watching cog|work's replays is helping me remember to spread creep tumors. |
| 16:51.39 | cog|work | =) |
| 16:51.50 | alestane | That was, after all, the point, right? |
| 16:51.56 | cog|work | lfmf |
| 16:51.57 | TC-Work | no |
| 16:51.57 | cog|work | indeed |
| 16:52.03 | TC-Work | the point was to point and laugh at cog |
| 16:52.07 | cog|work | that too |
| 16:52.16 | cog|work | (esp. the most recent one) |
| 16:52.23 | TC-Work | which can be done in person in oct. |
| 16:52.31 | cog|work | \o/ |
| 16:53.05 | cog|work | alestane: you should be able to take on medium pretty soon |
| 16:53.06 | alestane | That will depend on whether he turns up at BlizzCon, or whether you're going to Sonoma in October. |
| 16:53.09 | cog|work | hard is another story... |
| 16:53.16 | alestane | I probably can take on medium, cog. |
| 16:53.17 | cog|work | alestane: i'm coming to blizzcon |
| 16:53.27 | TC-Work | ^ |
| 16:53.31 | cog|work | i still can't beat hard |
| 16:53.33 | cog|work | wow |
| 16:53.35 | alestane | I've played one very easy game and one easy game and steamrollered both of them. |
| 16:53.35 | cog|work | Cairenn: topic |
| 16:53.37 | cog|work | >< |
| 16:54.04 | Cairenn | cog|work: ? |
| 16:54.07 | TC-Work | i play SC2 on brutal....and it's....a challenge |
| 16:54.16 | cog|work | but yeah, thanks to Lunessa and Xinhuan i have tix |
| 16:54.17 | alestane | "I still can't beat hard." - cogwheel. |
| 16:54.22 | cog|work | ^ |
| 16:54.22 | alestane | Cairenn ^ |
| 16:54.25 | Cairenn | ah |
| 16:54.30 | Lunessa | Who do we get to beat upon to improve our morale? My morale needs some improving. |
| 16:54.48 | alestane | That slogan never does say whose morale will be improved by the beatings. |
| 16:55.37 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 16:56.33 | Lunessa | I've played enough DungeonKeeper to know that beating my underlings improves morale - my morale. |
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| 16:57.11 | alestane | Banking off cog's comment, it also doesn't say what kind of beatings. |
| 16:57.19 | Kraps | http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4095/4941379334_53f74b439e.jpg |
| 16:57.46 | alestane | Kraps: <DIEDIEDIESTOMPSTOMP> |
| 16:57.55 | Kraps | ... |
| 16:58.02 | alestane | Not you, the toys. |
| 16:58.20 | Kraps | [12:58:01]<Kraps>... |
| 16:59.04 | Kraps | is currently listening to Adam Lambert - Mad World |
| 16:59.07 | alestane | I could deal with cute chibi versions of those toys, but not when they're also HK. |
| 16:59.24 | TC-Work | ~lart Kraps |
| 16:59.24 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack Kraps |
| 16:59.38 | Kraps | alestane: i see |
| 16:59.38 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I can improve your morale, if you like. |
| 16:59.52 | Kraps | hey TC-Work |
| 17:00.02 | TC-Work | yes Kraps? |
| 17:00.12 | Kraps | i nuked your squirrels |
| 17:00.33 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: RAWR, baby, yeah. |
| 17:01.02 | TC-Work | Kraps: they were actually cockroaches in disguise, they survived. |
| 17:01.11 | Kraps | DAMMIT |
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| 17:01.59 | Kraps | gets the bug spray |
| 17:03.19 | Jamash | sprays Kraps with bugs. |
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| 17:04.04 | Kraps | borrows some anti-jamash spray from batman |
| 17:09.05 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 17:09.12 | Fisker | my authenticator code was double-o 7! |
| 17:10.46 | Kraps | http://www.thecunninglinguists.net/images/questgreen.png |
| 17:15.29 | Jamash | Kraps: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9441366/goddamnbatman.jpg |
| 17:18.52 | augustl | auto attack not being highlighted in the beta is so confusing |
| 17:19.06 | Jamash | huh? |
| 17:19.20 | augustl | there's no yellow outline when it's toggled on |
| 17:19.31 | Jamash | oh |
| 17:19.37 | Kraps | auto attack = meh |
| 17:19.46 | augustl | not for a lvl3 warrior :) |
| 17:19.55 | Jamash | auto shot is the hotness |
| 17:20.12 | augustl | would you have a look at that |
| 17:20.23 | augustl | the spell in the action bar by default is actually "Attack" |
| 17:20.27 | augustl | auto attack is a separate spell |
| 17:20.27 | Kraps | just right click |
| 17:20.34 | Jamash | O_o |
| 17:20.36 | augustl | yeah I know |
| 17:20.40 | augustl | still, I'm used to see the yellow border |
| 17:20.42 | Jamash | sounds like a bug |
| 17:20.58 | augustl | if the border isn't there, I'm not attacking and hence not getting any rage |
| 17:21.02 | augustl | so it's quite the habit ;) |
| 17:21.17 | Jamash | I don't think I even keep it on my bar |
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| 17:21.38 | Jamash | generally I can tell whether I'm attacking or not |
| 17:21.54 | augustl | yeah, the character takes the attacking stance |
| 17:22.06 | augustl | I've got the habit of looking at the action bar though |
| 17:22.17 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || Cata Beta UI download: http://bit.ly/cvplpG || Daily beatings will continue until moral |
| 17:22.21 | foxlit | teehee, way to misconfigure mmoc |
| 17:22.26 | cog|work | aww |
| 17:22.30 | cog|work | cut off at moral |
| 17:22.35 | Jamash | ~fail Cairenn |
| 17:22.35 | purl | Cairenn, you Fail! |
| 17:22.36 | Cairenn | sowwy |
| 17:22.40 | cog|work | ~lart Jamash |
| 17:22.40 | purl | pours gasoline all over Jamash, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 17:22.55 | Jamash | ~whalenuke cog|work |
| 17:22.55 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around cog|work with his mind powers. |
| 17:22.55 | cog|work | Cairenn is above fail |
| 17:22.56 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || Cata Beta UI download: http://bit.ly/cvplpG |
| 17:23.00 | cog|work | ~whaleshield |
| 17:23.00 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield cog|work from the blast. |
| 17:23.06 | augustl | malevolent :O |
| 17:23.20 | foxlit | Cairenn: can has "compatible with Cataclysm" flag instead of "Works with 3.3"? |
| 17:23.44 | augustl | or both! |
| 17:23.59 | Sentrilol | well can't you use the cataclysm beta category :P |
| 17:24.00 | Cairenn | foxlit: discussed this in staff and didn't think it was a good idea, since there's very likely to be at least one more live patch before Cata |
| 17:24.09 | Cairenn | so it would just confuse people |
| 17:24.32 | Torhal | Cairenn: Installing AddOns confuses people... |
| 17:24.34 | Torhal | :D |
| 17:24.38 | Cairenn | there's that |
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| 17:24.40 | cog|work | haha |
| 17:25.10 | sylvanaar | Cairenn: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26723612465&sid=2000 |
| 17:25.11 | Jamash | make a compatibility matrix :P |
| 17:25.12 | Lunessa | Being alive confuses most people. I mean, really. |
| 17:25.20 | sylvanaar | ill be happy to add to it |
| 17:25.29 | Torhal | Lunessa: I was trying to be nice. |
| 17:25.41 | Cairenn | sylvanaar ? |
| 17:25.42 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 17:25.52 | sylvanaar | seemed topical |
| 17:25.58 | Cairenn | ah |
| 17:26.10 | Cairenn | yeah, I saw you uploaded it :) |
| 17:26.36 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/user/RayWilliamJohnson#p/u/9/-jFUN_9Wpb8 |
| 17:26.58 | sylvanaar | it has a compatibility mechanism in it, i was going to add a minimum interface level as well |
| 17:27.41 | Fisker | hey Cairenn :( |
| 17:27.45 | sylvanaar | dunno, if it helps your disucussion in any way - just thought id mention it |
| 17:27.50 | Cairenn | Fisker ? |
| 17:28.00 | industrial | bashes the final fantasy open beta registration site some more, keeps getting server busy pages |
| 17:28.43 | Shirik | I've got a great idea for a Thunderbird plugin |
| 17:28.50 | Kraps | your mom? |
| 17:29.20 | Shirik | Whenever you receive an email that was responded to with a top-post, it sends a signal back to the sender telling their computer to self-destruct |
| 17:30.25 | industrial | A-KO: annoying video dude :\ |
| 17:31.06 | Kraps | A-KO: whys you link that one? |
| 17:31.11 | A-KO | RWJ is hilarious |
| 17:31.57 | Kraps | yes he is |
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| 17:32.30 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 17:32.48 | Fisker | oh i can't greet you Cairenn? :( |
| 17:33.03 | Cairenn | it was the unhappy face that confused me |
| 17:34.11 | Kraps | A-KO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DXRQH8j0Oc#t=1m20s |
| 17:34.54 | Fisker | you make it sound like i can't be unhappy to see you |
| 17:35.02 | Cairenn | :p |
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| 17:36.06 | A-KO | man I'm glad 4chan is all over that chick that threw those puppies into the river |
| 17:36.15 | A-KO | I hope they really go after her |
| 17:36.24 | Fisker | who wouldn't be all over chicks? |
| 17:37.15 | Shirik | A-KO: Actually, that's probably the one thing 4chan's (or, specifically, /b/'s) good for |
| 17:37.25 | Shirik | all those kinds of people they seem to go after with great vengance |
| 17:37.56 | A-KO | yeah |
| 17:37.58 | A-KO | it's awesome |
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| 17:39.19 | cog|work | it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it's real. My uncles-in-law would let their dogs have puppies for the kids and when the kids got bored with them, they'd drown 'em :( |
| 17:40.07 | Kraps | idk, more often than not they just harass idiots who dont really deserve that level of abuse |
| 17:40.22 | augustl | :S |
| 17:40.59 | NightHawkTheSane | blargh. it needs to be like seven hours from now. |
| 17:41.40 | Kraps | like that slaughter girl |
| 17:41.49 | tem | Anyone else having problems tabing from the password field to the authenitcator field in the beta client? |
| 17:43.01 | mikma | lul, i took a fail-build for myself: http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=4&tal=00532300535010052210333105100500500500300000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 |
| 17:45.21 | A-KO | no Kraps |
| 17:45.25 | A-KO | people who do dumb shit |
| 17:45.28 | A-KO | deserve that level of abuse |
| 17:45.41 | Kraps | i dont agree |
| 17:45.53 | A-KO | slapping someone on the wrist isn't going to get the message across that people need to learn how to not do dumb shit |
| 17:47.00 | Kraps | slapping on the wrist for what? she didnt hurt anyone |
| 17:47.11 | A-KO | dude |
| 17:47.15 | A-KO | she threw puppies into a raging river |
| 17:47.21 | A-KO | that's fucked up any which way you look at it |
| 17:47.23 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 17:47.29 | Kraps | lol not her |
| 17:47.33 | A-KO | Jessi Slaughter? |
| 17:47.36 | Kraps | yes |
| 17:47.38 | A-KO | her family has problems too |
| 17:47.47 | A-KO | so it's good they outed that as well |
| 17:47.52 | Kraps | no |
| 17:48.06 | A-KO | little kids need to learn respect |
| 17:48.08 | A-KO | and courtesy |
| 17:48.54 | Kraps | thats not my bissniss |
| 17:48.56 | Lopeppeppy | And "please" and "thank you" |
| 17:48.57 | Kraps | gah |
| 17:49.15 | A-KO | That little girl's trashy mouth deserves to be washed out with soap, and slapped. |
| 17:49.17 | A-KO | sorry :P |
| 17:49.27 | A-KO | kind of believes in old timer stuff regarding discipline |
| 17:49.32 | Kraps | not by 4chan though |
| 17:49.37 | A-KO | if nobody else is gonna do it |
| 17:49.41 | A-KO | then more power to 'em |
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| 17:50.04 | A-KO | there's a lot of things I tolerate from people, but disrespect and insults are not among them. |
| 17:50.13 | A-KO | and harming animals as well |
| 17:50.21 | A-KO | helpless animals |
| 17:50.31 | A-KO | heh |
| 17:50.37 | NightHawkTheSane | I just dont tolerate people. |
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| 17:51.02 | A-KO | there's a lot of crap I can let slide |
| 17:51.11 | A-KO | but some things just get my blood boiling :P |
| 17:51.21 | A-KO | there are some not so nice things I'd do to that girl that threw those puppies |
| 17:51.27 | A-KO | probably some of which would get me locked up for even uttering them |
| 17:51.33 | Kraps | thats another story |
| 17:52.04 | cog|work | A-KO: are you a vegetarian |
| 17:52.07 | A-KO | but Jessi Slaughter's family is going to get the help they need to get their shit together, too. And she'll stay off the internet cussing everyone out for no reason. |
| 17:53.03 | cog|work | or a hypocrite? |
| 17:53.04 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:53.23 | A-KO | no cog|work, and I'm aware of the slight hypocracy there--but the consideration is that what that girl did amounts to enjoyment out of the suffering of another creature. It's a completely different mentality. |
| 17:53.39 | A-KO | She laughed about it |
| 17:54.35 | Fisker | hey A-KO |
| 17:54.37 | cog|work | considering no one knows all the facts surrounding it, it's hard to judge... maybe it was just a coping mechanism? |
| 17:54.39 | Fisker | I EAT PUPPIES |
| 17:54.46 | A-KO | cog|work: a coping mechanism? |
| 17:54.50 | A-KO | no |
| 17:54.52 | A-KO | it's sick in the head |
| 17:55.02 | Fisker | i eeeeeeat puppies |
| 17:55.09 | alestane | It's worth noting that cruelty and lack of empathy are not quite synonymous. |
| 17:55.39 | cog|work | A-KO: if she was indeed deriving pleasure from the suffering of the puppies, then yes, but that's not necessarily what's going on |
| 17:55.44 | A-KO | cog|work |
| 17:55.46 | zenzelezz | hm... going to just mmo-champion.com (no www.) suddenly turned interesting |
| 17:55.49 | cog|work | i'm not saying it's not |
| 17:55.56 | A-KO | it's EXACTLY what's going on |
| 17:56.20 | zenzelezz | did you watch the video of her doing it? |
| 17:56.25 | zenzelezz | she doesn't seem unhappy |
| 17:56.26 | cog|work | yes |
| 17:56.37 | cog|work | and it wasn't clear enough imo |
| 17:56.38 | A-KO | she seems pretty fucking happy about it to me |
| 17:56.43 | A-KO | "wheeeee" is pretty damn clear |
| 17:57.33 | Kraps | "wheeeee" is just a way of expressing her emotional torment |
| 17:57.46 | A-KO | emotional torment? heh |
| 17:58.11 | Kraps | yeah, i'm not sure where cog is going with this :p |
| 17:58.19 | A-KO | she's a heartless, cruel bitch who doesn't deserve to breathe the air that we breathe, and certainly needs to be expelled from the gene pool. |
| 17:58.44 | TC-Work | anyone work in medical IT? |
| 17:59.33 | A-KO | not medical IT, no :P |
| 18:00.19 | alestane | Sorry, A-KO...I generally won't endorse euthanasia as the first response to someone being ill in the head. |
| 18:00.23 | cog|work | I think people put way too much stock in their own ability to assess other peoples' motivations and internal thought processes. I'm not saying you're wrong, or that you're even likely to be wrong. Only that there isn't enough evidence even in the video to know for sure that she's a heartless, cruel bitch who doesn't deserve to breathe the air that we breathe, and certainly needs to be expelled from the gene pool. |
| 18:00.34 | Lunessa | TC-Work: only in that I support people teaching in the Texas Medical Center |
| 18:01.07 | cog|work | and what alestane said |
| 18:01.13 | alestane | Some people literally are not sensitive to, or have not learned to empathize with, the suffering of other creatures. |
| 18:01.15 | Lunessa | A-KO: Would you be as upset if she was tossing a bag of rattlesnakes in the river? Just asking. |
| 18:01.20 | A-KO | yes |
| 18:01.25 | Kraps | no |
| 18:01.29 | A-KO | absolutely |
| 18:01.36 | A-KO | keep in mind |
| 18:01.38 | alestane | Those are harder to drown, but it would still be pretty thoughtless. |
| 18:01.43 | A-KO | I've got a rather large snapping turtle as a pet |
| 18:01.59 | A-KO | so... |
| 18:02.11 | cog|work | so it's alright to imprison animals just not to kill them ;) |
| 18:02.20 | cog|work | is trolling now... don't take me seriously |
| 18:02.27 | augustl | oh god. How do you beat proxy barracks cheeseon steppes of war |
| 18:02.29 | Lunessa | Also, I'm generally not for people being executed for that, not without it being a part of a larger pattern of scoiopathy. |
| 18:02.46 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 18:02.48 | A-KO | Lunessa: to be honest, what she did is pretty much an indicator of that |
| 18:02.50 | Fisker | you be trollin mon? |
| 18:03.02 | Lunessa | indicator, yes. proof? no. |
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| 18:03.14 | cog|work | Lunessa: a larger pattern of sociopathy would be more of a reason NOT to execute imo. Broken person is broken. |
| 18:03.19 | Kraps | granted i like animals but rattlesnakes are poisonous... |
| 18:03.29 | Lunessa | note - I didn't watch the video in question. |
| 18:04.13 | Lunessa | cog|work: I'm for putting down people who are a danger to themselves and others on a fundamental level the same way I am for putting down a rabid dog or man-eating tiger. |
| 18:05.11 | cog|work | wouldn't it be better to try and fix them or at least learn something from them to help fix others? |
| 18:05.23 | cog|work | at least that way they would still be able to contribute to society in some way |
| 18:05.49 | Kraps | cog|work: have the nice men in white coats take them away? |
| 18:05.55 | cog|work | yep |
| 18:06.04 | cog|work | he he ha ha ho ho |
| 18:06.06 | A-KO | honestly |
| 18:06.15 | A-KO | I think people put way too much stock in trying to "fix" people :P |
| 18:06.17 | A-KO | I don't think it's possible |
| 18:06.20 | Lunessa | cog|work: As entertaining as I found the series Dexter, there are some areas where I draw a pretty hard line. |
| 18:06.36 | A-KO | at least not currently |
| 18:06.46 | A-KO | until we can physically rewire neuro connections or something |
| 18:06.51 | Kraps | my penis in numb |
| 18:06.52 | A-KO | change the structure of someone's brain |
| 18:06.55 | Kraps | is* |
| 18:06.55 | zenzelezz | <alestane> Sorry, A-KO...I generally won't endorse euthanasia as the first response to someone being ill in the head. <-- this opinion is fairly modern... humans didn't use to be avert to such actions, and all other animals sure aren't |
| 18:07.00 | cog|work | everything you do changes the structure of your brain |
| 18:07.21 | cog|work | the people who can't be fixed stay locked up |
| 18:07.28 | alestane | However, zenzelezz, we have much better tools now for determining the actual sources of such behavior. |
| 18:07.39 | zenzelezz | we're playing roles we never should have |
| 18:07.50 | cog|work | if they get better they can be let out. If you kill someone, they never get the chance |
| 18:07.53 | alestane | "Should" is a useless word here. |
| 18:07.55 | zenzelezz | humans should've been instinctual beings like other animals, not pondering beings |
| 18:07.57 | Maldivia | Lunessa: read any of the books? (Dexter that is) |
| 18:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: that seems an odd statement to make. |
| 18:08.10 | cog|work | "should" is utter bs |
| 18:08.16 | zenzelezz | what? I think humanity is an abomination |
| 18:08.17 | Lunessa | Maldivia: Nah, just the Showtime series (go go Netflix). |
| 18:08.31 | cog|work | zenzelezz: humans are just as natural as every other animal on the planet |
| 18:08.37 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: it seems like your denying the ability for any species to change over time |
| 18:09.14 | zenzelezz | cog|work: doesn't mean we can't still be a fluke that somehow didn't die out like the rest |
| 18:09.28 | cog|work | we're definitely not a fluke |
| 18:09.33 | Kraps | do you wanna gie? |
| 18:09.33 | cog|work | we killed off the other lineages |
| 18:09.34 | zenzelezz | in my opinion we are |
| 18:09.37 | Kraps | die* |
| 18:09.40 | alestane | Flukes survive and thrive if they are robust. |
| 18:09.48 | alestane | Then they are no longer flukes. |
| 18:10.02 | zenzelezz | I've been pretty apathetic since my mid-teens, my opinion on this matter is fairly firm |
| 18:10.07 | zenzelezz | even if it's unusual |
| 18:10.41 | cog|work | An opinions firmness should be in proportion to the evidence and reasons that support it, not the length of time held |
| 18:10.46 | cog|work | opinion's* |
| 18:10.47 | Kraps | i'm apathetic but i like our species |
| 18:10.57 | zenzelezz | well that's where we're different then Kraps |
| 18:11.24 | Kraps | because the other way is a bit hypocritical |
| 18:11.47 | zenzelezz | there's no denying I'm a hypocrite in general, but I don't see how I'm hypocritical in this particular case |
| 18:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: it's fair to say you don't like the way humanity turned out. But to say what we "should" or "shouldn't" have been is odd. We are little more than what we have evolved to be. |
| 18:12.03 | alestane | If we're truly self-destructive as a species, then - funny thing - we'll destroy ourselves. With luck, some less self-destructive portion of the species will survive to do things better. |
| 18:12.04 | cog|away | work errand... bbl |
| 18:12.16 | Cide | NOWAI |
| 18:12.34 | zenzelezz | NightHawkTheSane: "should" is an opinion. If it was shared by more than a tiny minority, we wouldn't have been this widespread and (generally perceived to be) successful |
| 18:13.21 | zenzelezz | let's not all act so surprised about my opinions, I'm sure most of you are clever enough to read the word my nick is based on |
| 18:13.49 | NightHawkTheSane | so, random change in topics. |
| 18:13.55 | A-KO | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bb4_1283184704 |
| 18:14.00 | A-KO | for those that haven't seen said video |
| 18:14.23 | zenzelezz | bah, think I forgot my food again |
| 18:14.27 | NightHawkTheSane | the tone/topic shift from listening to This American Life, Radio Lab, and Herding Code podcasts in sequence is rather jarring |
| 18:14.54 | Cide | why is that to be seen, A-KO? |
| 18:15.44 | alestane | One thing to remember, A-KO, is that no-one does anything they personally regard as truly wrong. Not consciously and intelligently. They often have very strange justifications for it, ones which are completely alien to the rest of us, but they are doing something that is right to them. |
| 18:15.51 | alestane | I'm not saying it should be tolerated. |
| 18:16.02 | A-KO | alestane: If she can't see how that is wrong |
| 18:16.07 | A-KO | then she's fucked in the head |
| 18:16.08 | A-KO | sorry |
| 18:16.13 | alestane | She is alien to you. |
| 18:16.13 | A-KO | that makes it even worse |
| 18:16.14 | A-KO | heh |
| 18:16.22 | alestane | You are probably fucked up to her, too. |
| 18:16.33 | alestane | Or pathetic and soft. |
| 18:16.55 | A-KO | I don't care which area of the world you live in, or who you are, or what upbringing you have, or whatever reasons you think exist for such behavior--that's just wrong. |
| 18:16.55 | A-KO | flat out |
| 18:16.56 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: I slightly disagree with that, i think its possible to do something you consider wrong. But it certainly takes a conscious thought/effort to do so. |
| 18:17.04 | Cide | shrug |
| 18:17.06 | Kraps | alestane: this is why i dont have opinions on anything |
| 18:17.17 | alestane | Only by justifying it with some other result, NightHawkTheSane. |
| 18:17.49 | Cide | just because the western world commonly uses dogs for pets it's not obvious that they are any more conscious than, say, a bird |
| 18:17.57 | Cide | and lots fewer people would object to killing a bird |
| 18:18.07 | Cide | could take any animal as an example really |
| 18:18.17 | alestane | We can take the path of least wrong, or we can take actions with unexpected consequences, but "once you know right from wrong, you can't do wrong. You just can't do it and live." |
| 18:18.39 | alestane | Now, what you know as right and as wrong varies from person to person somewhat. |
| 18:18.43 | Cide | I agree that it's wrong personally but maybe they had tried selling the puppies but couldn't find a buyer |
| 18:18.47 | Cide | //shrug |
| 18:18.50 | Cide | fail pidgin |
| 18:19.15 | Kraps | Cide: how this this a good solution? :o |
| 18:19.18 | A-KO | Cide: there are so many other things you can do for puppies other than throw them in the river, it's not like they live in a damn 3rd world country. |
| 18:19.27 | Kraps | ^ |
| 18:19.27 | Cide | you can shoot them if you have a gun |
| 18:19.32 | Cide | maybe you don't |
| 18:20.02 | A-KO | I mean, hell, if you don't like 'em, take the mother and them and leave them somewhere, who knows....but cold-blooded enjoyment of killing the helpless creatures |
| 18:20.08 | A-KO | it's just something else |
| 18:20.24 | Cide | maybe they had to kill them but couldn't bear doing it in a humane (for the lack of a better word) manner because it usually means dealing with their death up front |
| 18:20.38 | Cide | who said she enjoyed it? |
| 18:20.48 | A-KO | the reaction in the video looks like enjoyment to me |
| 18:20.51 | Cide | unless she laughed at the end of the movie but I didn't see |
| 18:20.57 | Kraps | that is so bad Cide |
| 18:21.00 | A-KO | she said "wheeeeeeeeeeeeee" |
| 18:21.02 | A-KO | when she threw one |
| 18:21.07 | A-KO | and chuckled |
| 18:21.07 | Cide | shrug |
| 18:21.41 | A-KO | and like I said, they live in Bosnia, not freaking Ethiopia or something... |
| 18:21.45 | A-KO | there's probably a vet right in the town there |
| 18:21.58 | Cide | costs money |
| 18:22.14 | A-KO | not to take animals to a shelter/vet and say you can't take care of them |
| 18:22.17 | A-KO | that doesn't cost money |
| 18:22.22 | alestane | I haven't watched it myself; I didn't feel like I needed that in my brain at the moment. I've already seen wanton destruction of other creatures on other occasions, and it did inspire wrath at the time. But what it boils down to is, these people are off track for what most of the people around them want out of them; if we truly espouse the views we criticize them for lacking, than we have an obligation to ourselves to |
| 18:22.23 | alestane | try and realign them first. |
| 18:22.46 | Kraps | huh? |
| 18:22.53 | Xinhuan | it appears that disabling P2P in the streaming launcher fix my launcher crashes problems |
| 18:23.07 | nevcairiel | You're all worked up about someone throwing puppies in a river? You would gladly see someone kill a bunch of rats, but puppies is bad now? :p |
| 18:23.19 | Xinhuan | enabling P2P causes the streaming-launcher-downloader to crash to memory violations otherwise |
| 18:23.22 | Kraps | tries to realign with a serial rapist |
| 18:23.29 | Kraps | not working |
| 18:23.31 | Cide | realign them |
| 18:23.34 | Cide | not realign to them |
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| 18:23.57 | foxlit | Someone should clearly implement SC2 in WoW |
| 18:24.22 | Cide | implement wow in sc2 in wow |
| 18:24.33 | Kraps | that requires brain modification technology that we dont have |
| 18:24.42 | Cide | don't be ridiculous |
| 18:24.46 | Kraps | or the ministry of love |
| 18:24.50 | alestane | The brain has remarkable ability to modify itself. |
| 18:25.10 | Kraps | was it the ministry of love? |
| 18:25.23 | foxlit | Is being able to reaper-rush the other healers while doing Marrowgar too much to ask for? |
| 18:26.11 | alestane | And people can be guided and encouraged in adjusting their values, but it typically takes time, attention and some considerable expertise. |
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| 18:31.37 | Dagmar | Someday soon, some Blizz coder's going to slap their own forehead and say "OMG that's not reentrant!" |
| 18:32.08 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 18:35.44 | Kraps | this site is awesome http://www.gk2gk.com |
| 18:39.24 | Ressy | Is there a section for Cata addons on curse? |
| 18:40.05 | Kandoko | If anyone in secure hookers could give Kanzul a invite Id appreciate it. And thanks jnwhiteh for getting wowlua up, will make tracking this hardlock down easier. |
| 18:42.00 | olafski | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:42.05 | Fisker | i came olafski |
| 18:43.07 | olafski | realignment sounds good alestane.. with a baseball bat? |
| 18:43.10 | Dagmar | How about a sack full of wasps |
| 18:43.13 | Lunessa | olafski: I used the question to determine if it was about puppies or about animals. I doubt any of us would have been upset if it were a bag of cockroaches. |
| 18:43.23 | olafski | doubt all you want lunessa, I would be |
| 18:43.49 | Lunessa | You're entitled to feel that way. I was just looking for the depth of feeling. |
| 18:43.53 | olafski | any life destroyed just for fun is wrong in my eyes |
| 18:44.45 | alestane | I think at least a few people have made the case by now, that even more than the destruction of the creatures, it's the glee of the person that disturbs. |
| 18:45.27 | olafski | yes |
| 18:45.32 | olafski | I don't even like dogs or puppies |
| 18:45.44 | olafski | but killing them and then laughing about it goes too far |
| 18:45.44 | Kraps | WHAT WRONG WITH YOU |
| 18:45.53 | olafski | many things kraps |
| 18:45.59 | Kraps | ;) |
| 18:46.05 | olafski | I'm quite hypocritical.. I don't even kill bugs |
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| 18:46.10 | olafski | but I do eat meat =) |
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| 18:46.15 | Kraps | woot |
| 18:47.13 | olafski | have to draw the line somewhere.. I admit that I don't want to be a vegetarian but I do try to buy "biological" meat.. and I don't eat things that are prepared while they're still alive |
| 18:47.37 | Kraps | durr |
| 18:47.44 | Kraps | like what? |
| 18:48.27 | Cide | biological meat? |
| 18:48.55 | olafski | cide: that's what they call it here |
| 18:49.16 | olafski | it's more expensive and in green packages, supposedly the animal lived "better" |
| 18:49.29 | olafski | I do realize that biological is a bit of a weird word for that |
| 18:49.46 | olafski | kraps: lobster, crab, shellfish(sp?) |
| 18:49.46 | batbot | olafski, shellfish is correct. |
| 18:50.21 | Cide | what is it then? |
| 18:50.45 | olafski | isn't all meat biological? ;( |
| 18:51.07 | Kraps | i have nuclear cows |
| 18:51.09 | olafski | they just call it that over here, when it has some seal of approval from some agency that checks the living conditions of the animals |
| 18:51.09 | Cide | then why do you try to buy biological meat specifically? |
| 18:51.12 | Lunessa | all meat is - you're talking about what we call the "organic farming" movement. |
| 18:51.23 | olafski | yeah that sounds like a better name ;) |
| 18:51.57 | Cide | as long as you don't start hating on "artificial" shit I'll stay in the shadows |
| 18:52.07 | Cide | I hate that idea with a passion |
| 18:52.17 | Lunessa | Animals raised more "naturally" for force-feeding, not all tanked up on antibiotics, free-range, yadda, yadda. |
| 18:52.23 | Cide | "nature made it so it must be better" |
| 18:52.28 | olafski | heh |
| 18:52.33 | olafski | no I'm all for science |
| 18:52.41 | olafski | as long as the animals suffer as little as possible |
| 18:52.51 | Cide | not about animals in this case |
| 18:52.54 | Cide | just food in general |
| 18:53.00 | olafski | oh.. don't care about that either |
| 18:53.01 | Cide | hell not even food |
| 18:53.05 | Cide | could be anything |
| 18:53.12 | olafski | if they can make blue cucumber that tastes better go go go |
| 18:53.16 | Cide | also applies to medicine |
| 18:53.22 | olafski | you mean like people who refuse to use medicine? |
| 18:53.34 | olafski | there was a penn & teller thing about that in the last season I think |
| 18:53.36 | Cide | don't know the english terms |
| 18:53.47 | Cide | don't bother looking them up either |
| 18:54.11 | Cide | but using herbal remedies because laboratory made medicines are the devil for instance |
| 18:54.14 | Cide | fucking nutjobs |
| 18:54.29 | olafski | haha herbal medicine :P |
| 18:54.37 | olafski | couple of herbs and a ton of alcohol |
| 18:54.39 | olafski | if it burns it works! |
| 18:55.06 | Kraps | well, according to my friend, doctors just stuff you with medicine |
| 18:55.37 | Kraps | he had a cold and a new kid when he told me that |
| 18:56.20 | Kraps | it was a little worse than a cold actually |
| 18:56.41 | olafski | hm I've always trusted my doctors |
| 18:56.53 | Kraps | odd |
| 18:56.53 | Dagmar | violently erupting buboes? |
| 18:56.54 | olafski | I mean they study for about 10 years, surely they know better than me at least |
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| 18:57.26 | Kraps | Dagmar: might have been strep or something |
| 18:57.34 | Ressy | One of my drs asked me if I wanted antibiotics for the flu.. oy. |
| 18:57.35 | olafski | though I guess I'm lucky in that I'm hardly ever ill.. maybe been ill about 2 times in my life (other than random colds, but they go away within a week and I've never skipped a day of school/work for those) |
| 18:58.14 | NightHawkTheSane | to be honest, you SHOULD be missing school/work for colds :P |
| 18:58.19 | Dagmar | I know who I'm eating first when society falls apart. |
| 18:58.24 | NightHawkTheSane | you may feel fine, but you'll probably make everyone else sick |
| 18:58.31 | olafski | nighthawkthesane: well, it's just a sore throat =( |
| 18:58.37 | NightHawkTheSane | for you, it might be |
| 18:58.46 | olafski | not like I'm coughing or anything =( |
| 18:58.53 | Kraps | Dagmar: ? |
| 18:59.07 | NightHawkTheSane | so? You dont have to be coughing to be contagious. |
| 18:59.18 | Dagmar | Kraps: Olafski, because he'll be healthy food |
| 18:59.28 | Kraps | lolwut |
| 18:59.41 | Dagmar | "<olafski> though I guess I'm lucky in that I'm hardly ever ill.." |
| 18:59.51 | Dagmar | You gotta scope these things out well in advance, man. |
| 19:00.08 | Ressy | " <olafski> not like I'm coughing or anything =(" < THIS is why I'm always sick. Damned people need to learn when to stay home. |
| 19:00.22 | Dagmar | Once cannibalism starts to become common, people are going to be all "*kofkofkof* I don't feel so good.. I think maybe I've got the plague." |
| 19:00.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Ressy: thats what i'm sayin' :P Sadly, at least in america, most schools/employers have idiotic policies regarding sick days |
| 19:00.53 | olafski | just grow some resistence to these things already ressy ;) |
| 19:01.05 | NightHawkTheSane | It really should be just "I'm sick, I can't come in" "okay, come back when you feel better and wont make half the office sick" |
| 19:01.09 | Ressy | I'm at a small (ie VERY small - 6 person) company, and they know after working for them for 5 yrs I get sick often. |
| 19:01.17 | Ressy | I use al my sick days, and vacation days on sick days |
| 19:01.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Ressy: the idea of "sick days" is practically criminal |
| 19:01.41 | olafski | what's a sick day? |
| 19:01.46 | Dagmar | Sounds like it's time to start looking for a source of allergens in your environment |
| 19:01.49 | olafski | you get a specified amount of days you can be ill in a year? |
| 19:01.52 | NightHawkTheSane | olafski: an american institution whereby employers seek to punish you for getting sick |
| 19:01.56 | Ressy | Thank god I don't live in the US. |
| 19:02.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Ressy: where, if i might ask? |
| 19:02.16 | Ressy | Dagmar: I have allergies, but this isn't allergies. ;) |
| 19:02.18 | Ressy | Canada |
| 19:02.19 | Kraps | ALL YOU HATERS WILL BE SORRY |
| 19:02.21 | NightHawkTheSane | (it's not striclty an /american/ thing, to be sure.) |
| 19:02.24 | olafski | I haven't really looked into my company's policy about it, but I think if I call in sick they'll say "okay get well soon" |
| 19:02.25 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1053437318 |
| 19:02.33 | NightHawkTheSane | olafski: yeah, thats a sane policy. |
| 19:02.47 | olafski | and I assume I will get paid even though I'm sick at home.. right? =) |
| 19:02.48 | Dagmar | I wind up getting sick about 3-5 times a year and it's usually my damn allergies that cause it |
| 19:02.57 | olafski | maybe get paid a bit less if I am sick for a long time |
| 19:03.08 | Ressy | The only time I've been pressured to come in berore I was 100%, was when it was tax season, and I was out for 2 weeks due to bronchitus |
| 19:03.21 | Dagmar | Wow. New lungs. |
| 19:03.42 | Ressy | They gave me the best drugs tho... Made me sleep for 2 weeks. |
| 19:03.47 | Dagmar | Ressy: You should probably consider a doctor who doesn't use a feathered stick |
| 19:03.48 | olafski | :) |
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| 19:04.19 | olafski | anywho my experience with doctors is that they usually say "try to not strain yourself too much, if it's still bad in 2 weeks come back and I'll prescribe something" |
| 19:04.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: you leave my spirit healer out of this. :P |
| 19:04.26 | olafski | they hardly ever just gave me medicine |
| 19:05.04 | olafski | though nowadays I can just go and say "my stomach hurts" and they'll give me nice strong anti-acid stuff :) |
| 19:05.12 | Kraps | also the anti-vaccine thing creeps me out |
| 19:05.14 | Lopeppeppy | Mine gives me medicine when I visit him, because he knows it's been at least a week+ of me trying to cure it at home. |
| 19:05.39 | olafski | oh yeah same here lopeppeppy :) I tend to only go to a doctor if I feel like I'm dying |
| 19:06.10 | Dagmar | I *used* to do that, and then I got a flu with a fever so high I could fry eggs on my forehead |
| 19:06.15 | Dagmar | Now I go a bit quicker |
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| 19:06.20 | olafski | I went to school when I had mono (didn't know it though) |
| 19:06.36 | NightHawkTheSane | isn't sure he remembers the last time he saw a doctor for illness. |
| 19:06.40 | foxlit | They keep messing with iTunes UI :/ |
| 19:06.51 | olafski | aye same.. well I remember the mono thing nighthawkthesane =) |
| 19:07.02 | foxlit | The latest one is "hey, let's desaturate EVERYTHING" |
| 19:07.06 | olafski | other than that I only go for ingrown toenails and stuff like that ;p |
| 19:07.17 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, the only reason i even remember the last time i saw a doctor, period, was because i nearly sliced off the tip of my finger last year. >.> |
| 19:07.21 | olafski | and to get refills on my anti acid |
| 19:07.45 | Fisker | moorestown Lopeppeppy |
| 19:07.53 | Lopeppeppy | Is that contagious, Fisker? |
| 19:08.39 | Fisker | i wouldn't know |
| 19:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | Let me know, okay? I'm going out to dinner with 10 of my BFFs, I don't want them dropping dead on me if this is the plague |
| 19:14.24 | krka | how can you have more than one BFF? |
| 19:14.49 | rocode | Apparently, BFF is a whole new class of best friends. |
| 19:14.52 | zenzelezz | they are all 999/1000 Peppy rep |
| 19:15.19 | Kraps | wtf http://www.massively.com/2010/09/02/anti-aliased-i-can-finally-stop-playing-mortal-online-now |
| 19:15.44 | zenzelezz | what's WTF about it? |
| 19:16.16 | Kraps | first read the screenie |
| 19:16.28 | Kraps | then read or skim the article |
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| 19:17.57 | zenzelezz | hm, interesting |
| 19:18.35 | Kraps | what the hell kind of developer does that? |
| 19:19.54 | Lopeppeppy | There was implied sarcasm to having **10** BFFs |
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| 19:25.29 | Lunessa | You mean, I'm not your BFF? OMG Y U H8 MEH? |
| 19:26.23 | Fisker | hey Lunessa |
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| 19:29.31 | cog|work | http://www.atheistcartoons.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/nowyouknow.jpg |
| 19:29.39 | Fisker | maccogwheel |
| 19:29.53 | cog|work | no pccogwheel |
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| 19:31.25 | cog|work | is experiencing tracking refresh mania |
| 19:31.34 | Fisker | no cog|work |
| 19:31.50 | foxlit | doesn't get the cartoon :( |
| 19:31.51 | cog|work | yes indeed. see? http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?action=track&tracknumbers=430976485161 |
| 19:32.22 | cog|work | foxlit: probably because you've already internalized how dumb people are |
| 19:32.29 | cog|work | :) |
| 19:32.33 | Fisker | calls to have the package relocated |
| 19:32.53 | nevcairiel | mmm |
| 19:32.59 | nevcairiel | just reading Iriels 4.0 UI preview thread |
| 19:33.03 | Fisker | what is it btw cog|work ? |
| 19:33.11 | cog|work | droid x |
| 19:33.16 | Fisker | oh |
| 19:33.22 | nevcairiel | wasnt the Tiling and removal of TexCoordModifiesRect in 3.3.5 already? |
| 19:33.29 | Fisker | calls back to have the package back at it's original location |
| 19:34.15 | Fisker | btw cog|work |
| 19:34.17 | Fisker | i lol'd |
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| 19:34.24 | Fisker | people were like "lol blizzard cant computer" |
| 19:34.41 | Fisker | "Like my friend was hacked a couple of months ago after being inactive for over a year how do you explain that?" |
| 19:34.45 | Fisker | guildname.wowstead.com |
| 19:34.47 | Fisker | GEE WIZ |
| 19:34.49 | Fisker | I WONDER WAT |
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| 19:36.33 | Fisker | Linux and macs better have 100% uptime now |
| 19:36.38 | Fisker | Microsoft just patented shutdowns |
| 19:37.12 | rocode | Wait, linux has a shutdown feature? |
| 19:37.24 | nevcairiel | linux needs a shutdown feature? |
| 19:37.28 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: where is this preview thread? |
| 19:37.34 | nevcairiel | beta ui forums |
| 19:38.09 | Yssaril | cool thanks |
| 19:38.20 | Kraps | [2] [Debradeslke]: Big surprise, "WWW.4WOWGOLD.C@M" launch an activity of buying G than get equipment as gift. buy 120k will enjoy the motorcycle for free, Using DISCOUNT CODE:GPS can get a discount of 5%. Come quickly! |
| 19:39.55 | olafski | thanks kraps, I'm not ingame so it's a good thing you relayed that :) |
| 19:40.19 | olafski | I'll go buy 120k right now |
| 19:40.19 | Kraps | anytime! |
| 19:41.03 | KarlKFI|work | http://4chanarchive.org/images/244924477/1277664628260.png |
| 19:42.01 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:42.04 | cog|work | omg iriel turned to the dark side... err the light side ... er i am confus |
| 19:42.04 | Fisker | imma buy 120k Kraps |
| 19:42.05 | Fisker | thanks |
| 19:44.06 | Fisker | so |
| 19:44.08 | Fisker | dnf on pax |
| 19:44.11 | Fisker | looking forward to it? |
| 19:44.20 | olafski | hells yeah! |
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| 19:46.44 | Kraps | xp-tan let herself go :( http://images.4chan.org/c/src/1283153888154.jpg |
| 19:47.01 | Fisker | fucking old |
| 19:47.06 | Fisker | xp needs to die |
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| 19:47.52 | Kraps | she'll have cardiac arrest soon |
| 19:48.34 | NightHawkTheSane | paaaaaaaaax |
| 19:48.55 | Kraps | you're going? |
| 19:49.43 | olafski | wtf is xp-tan :< |
| 19:50.05 | NightHawkTheSane | of course i'm going |
| 19:50.15 | NightHawkTheSane | it's practically in my back yard. |
| 19:50.22 | Fisker | old olafski |
| 19:52.54 | Kraps | olafski: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-tan |
| 19:53.09 | A-KO | okay |
| 19:53.11 | A-KO | Orgrimmar is serious bad assery now |
| 19:53.16 | A-KO | they just need a few more finishing touches IMO |
| 19:53.19 | A-KO | like, give the orcs new armor |
| 19:55.11 | Arrowmaster | this is hilarious, i felt like some mindless killing so i put MW2 in last night and did kinda badly, but today during the day i keep getting the top score and MVP |
| 19:55.13 | cog|work | i love (not) how everyone on the SC2 forums seems to type posts as if they're in-game and have to use as few words and as little grammar as possible to say something... |
| 19:55.39 | A-KO | http://i55.tinypic.com/35a4oxy.jpg |
| 19:57.10 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: thats (sadly, depressingly) not really specific to sc2 |
| 19:57.45 | olafski | heh yeah |
| 19:58.19 | olafski | when I read comments at some tech site (dutch), the people all seem to think they know everything better than everyone else.. but they're using such horrible grammar it makes it hard to take them seriously |
| 19:58.34 | KarlKFI|work | blame SMS |
| 19:58.46 | KarlKFI|work | all the other irrational adults do |
| 19:58.55 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: it seems more widespread and with a stronger effect though |
| 19:58.58 | olafski | I can blame sms for annoying shorthands.. bad grammar is just bad grammar |
| 20:00.23 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: i couldn't speak to that. Although I suspect there's other communities where its just as bad ;\ |
| 20:00.31 | foxlit | We can has adorable grammar? |
| 20:00.49 | olafski | no not that.. it's not like they're trying to be cool I think |
| 20:01.19 | rocode | I worked as a TA for a year. They use them in college papers. The end is upon us. |
| 20:01.20 | olafski | in dutch verbs can end in d, t or dt and only one of them is correct (sometimes several are correct but it means something else) |
| 20:01.48 | olafski | it just makes me cringe to see people do that wrong several times in one post |
| 20:01.51 | Fisker | i |
| 20:01.52 | Fisker | am |
| 20:01.57 | Fisker | awesome |
| 20:02.00 | olafski | even worse in documents, where ms word can just correct most of those mistakes anyway |
| 20:06.05 | zenzelezz | olafski: for Norwegian, Office (up until version 6 or 97 or something) understood the language pretty well. Then they introduced a "new and better" spell checker that sucked ass and started dividing words like it would in English. No idea if they finally fixed it |
| 20:06.31 | olafski | hmm |
| 20:06.43 | olafski | it's generally been pretty ok for dutch |
| 20:07.06 | olafski | I don't know when they introduced grammar checking, but I remember expecting it to not work at all and it worked quite well :) |
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| 20:13.03 | Fisker | i sucked your ass zenzelezz |
| 20:20.48 | p3lim^ | ofcourse.. |
| 20:21.10 | p3lim^ | when I'm finally done writing an addon for cata and I'm ready to test it, the servers are down |
| 20:21.12 | p3lim^ | joy |
| 20:27.59 | Ressy | They're just doing restarts |
| 20:28.09 | Ressy | prolly doing hotfixes |
| 20:39.34 | alestane | So, uh, any other demo 'locks taken a look at felguards in the last couple patches? |
| 20:40.52 | Kraps | this is so me http://typelogic.com/intp.html |
| 20:42.30 | Kraps | http://images.4chan.org/sci/src/1283459285820.png |
| 20:43.20 | Shirik | because it's so hard to make the triangle point the other way |
| 20:46.20 | Yssaril | also the "intelligent" order only really matters if you want to sort a string comprised of the 3 numbers |
| 20:48.19 | Fisker | the intelligent order is obviously putting the most important value first |
| 20:48.35 | kd3 | winces |
| 20:48.41 | Fisker | The day is obviously more important than the month, which is more important than the year |
| 20:48.46 | kd3 | fark: Oil rig in Gulf of Mexico just south of Louisiana explodes. This is not a repeat from April [NewsFlash] |
| 20:48.57 | Fisker | old kd3 |
| 20:49.08 | haste | Kraps: I use yyyy/mm/dd and people hate me for it |
| 20:49.14 | alestane | How bad is this one? |
| 20:49.22 | haste | that being said ,the european version makes a lot of sense as well |
| 20:49.25 | haste | just reversed |
| 20:49.28 | kd3 | http://www.wdsu.com/r/24854300/detail.html |
| 20:49.43 | Fisker | i would haste |
| 20:50.09 | Kraps | alestane: only 350 feet deep |
| 20:50.17 | haste | Fisker: |
| 20:50.24 | haste | now is the time for |
| 20:50.26 | haste | sleep |
| 20:50.28 | haste | gn |
| 20:50.38 | Dagmar | I wonder how much BP paid to keep their name out of it |
| 20:50.59 | Fisker | yes haste |
| 20:51.16 | Fisker | anyway i'll be waiting for moorestown |
| 20:51.17 | Fisker | thank you |
| 20:52.25 | zenzelezz | "Cisco is making a bid for Skype" |
| 20:52.29 | zenzelezz | that could prove interesting |
| 20:53.24 | batrick | companies buying companies shouldn't be allowed |
| 20:53.49 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26725772779/unskippable-cutscenes-bad-game-design/ |
| 20:55.25 | zenzelezz | good response |
| 20:55.35 | Ressy | lol. |
| 20:55.44 | zenzelezz | I agree though, unskippable cut scenes are horrible; especially in games where you die a lot and have to rewatch them |
| 20:56.53 | Lunessa | batrick: Why not? |
| 20:57.08 | Ressy | It sucks, because if you skip the cut scenes right now, you can't complete quests. |
| 20:57.10 | batrick | because it destroy competition |
| 20:58.54 | Lunessa | batrick: What if my company wants out of the business, but would like our product/ideas to live on? Should I not be able to sell my company and it's property to another? |
| 21:00.14 | cog|work | batrick: don't think of it as "buying a company" think of it as "buying all the assets, physical and intellectual alike that are owned by the company's principles/shareholders" |
| 21:00.33 | cog|work | Why should that not be allowed? |
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| 21:02.05 | batrick | sell the assets not the company |
| 21:02.13 | batrick | the idea that a company willingly dies is rediculous |
| 21:02.24 | malreth | you will watch this now http://devour.com/video/bollywood-awesomeness/ |
| 21:02.31 | NightHawkTheSane | at it's core, the simple idea of a company acquiring another company is perfectly fine. companies are property, property can be bought and sold. |
| 21:03.06 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick: what you object to is the subset of this, where the purchase of company is for the purposes of eliminating/reducing compteition. But that's what regulation is for. |
| 21:03.26 | cog|work | ^ |
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| 21:05.20 | Dagmar | Dont' think of it as selling a buisness. |
| 21:05.35 | Dagmar | Think of it as selling the people who have spent years of their life toiling for your benefit. |
| 21:06.00 | Dagmar | That's _got_ to command top dollar. |
| 21:08.09 | p3lim^ | the new loading system really sucks |
| 21:08.22 | p3lim^ | takes 3-4x longer now :/ |
| 21:09.48 | Lunessa | This quote makes me laugh, "Enhancement only brings to mind commercials of a man with a creepily large smile and his wife with an even creepier smile. " Enhancement only brings to mind commercials of a man with a creepily large smile and his wife with an even creepier smile. |
| 21:09.53 | Lunessa | damnit |
| 21:10.00 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560850244&sid=2000 |
| 21:10.09 | cog|work | whistles |
| 21:10.23 | cog|work | god damn catchy enzyte tune |
| 21:10.36 | cog|work | goes to unhearit.com |
| 21:11.34 | Dagmar | cog: I have just the thing for you. http://failblog.org/2010/09/02/epic-fail-photos-childrens-dental-aid-fail/ |
| 21:17.32 | Lunessa | "and I'd like a pony made out of stars that pisses fine gin and craps freshly baked cookies" |
| 21:17.35 | Lunessa | Same thread. |
| 21:19.37 | Kraps | but would they eat those? |
| 21:21.41 | Xyphoid | fff guild leader wants to change character again, because melee are BIASED AGAINST |
| 21:23.05 | NightHawkTheSane | if we assume the entire purpose of excretion is to.. well.. excrete unusable/toxic waste from your system, it would follow that fine gin and freshly baked cookies are unusable/harmful byproducts of said pony's anatomical systems. It seems unlikely it would wish to consume them |
| 21:24.06 | Mikk | maybe if we mix it up with whatever he eats? |
| 21:24.57 | NightHawkTheSane | well, depending on if it was simply unusable, or actually toxic, it could either kill him, or just passthrough into more fine gin and freshly baked cookies. |
| 21:24.59 | Lunessa | Hey, if he'll piss scotch, bourbon, or Irish Whiskey I'll be happy too. |
| 21:25.01 | foxlit | "if you die enough times, the narrator runs out of orange smoke, and can't reincarnate you." |
| 21:25.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: you know, unless it's something like shitty american beer, anything that urinates an alcoholic beverage is okay in my book, i don't care what it is :P |
| 21:30.56 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Amen |
| 21:40.37 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/lego-cubestormer-robot-solves-rubiks-cube-in-sub-12-second-whir/ |
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| 21:41.31 | Adys | Uh |
| 21:41.41 | Adys | Robots born with the sole purpose of solving the Rubik's Cube are nothing new, but we're pretty sure we haven't seen one crack the code in under a dozen seconds before |
| 21:41.44 | jnwhiteh | First game! |
| 21:41.45 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ec1d957e1e20d7ee6cc59f2d653d17dc.png |
| 21:41.47 | Adys | in that very sentence |
| 21:41.49 | jnwhiteh | too bad it was a practice |
| 21:41.50 | Adys | they link to the article |
| 21:41.50 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 21:41.52 | Adys | "Kawasaki robot solves Rubik's Cube in seconds flat" |
| 21:41.58 | jnwhiteh | and for 45 minutes, I forgot about the 'Advanced Structures' tree |
| 21:41.58 | Adys | six seconds* |
| 21:42.01 | jnwhiteh | .. seriously. |
| 21:42.03 | cog|work | jnwhiteh: holy hour long game batman |
| 21:42.11 | jnwhiteh | cog|work: I had no adv structures |
| 21:42.18 | jnwhiteh | because I forgot |
| 21:42.21 | jnwhiteh | thought I couldn't find it |
| 21:42.28 | jnwhiteh | thought the game disabled it in 'practice mode' |
| 21:42.32 | jnwhiteh | but then he had void cannons =0 |
| 21:42.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: yeah, i found that amusing too. |
| 21:42.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: but the mindstorms robot is still pretty cool |
| 21:42.48 | cog|work | if you can get me up to ~45 minutes you have a good chance of winning just out of fatigue >< |
| 21:42.49 | Adys | yea |
| 21:45.13 | KarlKFI|work | 1 hr game is pretty damn long for a 1v1 |
| 21:45.55 | Xyphoid | jnwhiteh: haha I did that too |
| 21:46.06 | Xyphoid | looking for page 2 of the builds |
| 21:46.12 | jnwhiteh | made it very very difficult =) |
| 21:46.27 | jnwhiteh | I had four expansions and razed his only expansion with my ground units tho =) |
| 21:46.31 | Xyphoid | i was beating a guy with my infantry spam but he moved a barracks to a ledge and i couldn't get to it |
| 21:46.32 | jnwhiteh | marines ho! |
| 21:46.34 | Xyphoid | with no flyers |
| 21:46.56 | Xyphoid | googling 'how do i make an armory' while alt-tabbed |
| 21:47.17 | Warloco | lmao at the 'itsallcogwheelsfault' addon |
| 21:47.20 | cog|work | also check out the grid bindings... makes it MUCH easier imo |
| 21:47.40 | cog|work | (esp. for random) |
| 21:48.40 | cog|work | Warloco: XD |
| 21:50.49 | Warloco | time to make a custom cataclysm eventhorizon profile |
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| 21:52.46 | Warloco | hmm I think eventhorizon is entirely broken on cata |
| 21:53.54 | TC-Work | awww, the NDA from MS wont even let you say what it's for |
| 21:56.11 | KarlKFI|work | yeah NDAs are lame liek that |
| 21:56.38 | KarlKFI|work | at least it doesn't tell you you can't admit you're under NDA |
| 21:56.46 | KarlKFI|work | having to lie about that shit is annoying |
| 21:57.21 | cog|work | agrees |
| 21:57.58 | Warloco | does omnicc work on beta? |
| 21:58.16 | Stanzilla | yes |
| 21:58.21 | Warloco | awesome |
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| 21:58.58 | Warloco | should I get omnicc beta or "the latest stable" if I want to use it on beta |
| 21:59.06 | Warloco | seeing as neither is probably 100% stable on beta |
| 21:59.35 | TC-Work | KarlKFI, the Blizz NDA lets you say what it's for however |
| 21:59.55 | TC-Work | becuse the NDA isnt untill after the invite |
| 21:59.58 | p3lim^ | Any major changes to Interface Options for addons? |
| 22:00.36 | Warloco | I dunno, eventhorizon seems broken |
| 22:00.43 | Warloco | but I have no idea beyond that |
| 22:00.52 | krevlorn | any data broker pros on right now? |
| 22:00.59 | KarlKFI|work | TC-Work: game beta obviously isn't super secret then, eh? |
| 22:01.43 | TC-Work | KarlKFI: considering how big bizz's games are, it never stays quite for long |
| 22:01.51 | TC-Work | NDA regardless |
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| 22:04.40 | KarlKFI|work | i dont think Blizzard minds that much about the betas. they just dont want competing game companies coming out with stuff that does the same thing before they do, which isn't usually a problem, and they dont want beta reviews sayign the game sucks before it's done, and they dont want whining bitching to them about X, Y and Z that aren't finished |
| 22:05.19 | KarlKFI|work | plus secrecy builds hype |
| 22:06.09 | TC-Work | yea, look at duke nukem |
| 22:10.48 | Stanzilla | mikma: wtb ginvite on mekk (maiel) :p |
| 22:13.08 | Zyn | I've gotten several whispers from people to get ginvite, but then ... herp derp, can't invite |
| 22:14.25 | Zyn | must've broken the guild too : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3688889/lvl1forever.jpg |
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| 22:22.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Aside from the berlin wall, what really good major events happened in the 80's? >.> |
| 22:22.32 | Cide | I was born? |
| 22:22.37 | Gnarfoz | the berlin wall happened in the 60's |
| 22:22.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: i said GOOD. |
| 22:23.00 | Cide | and I responded accordingly. |
| 22:23.06 | NightHawkTheSane | touche ;) |
| 22:23.44 | Gnarfoz | weak, NHTS ;p |
| 22:23.54 | Cide | wtf is up with firefox and keyup? |
| 22:23.55 | Gnarfoz | also, bed tiems. :< |
| 22:24.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: eh? also, i rather obviously meant the wall coming down. |
| 22:24.17 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: but that's not a good event at all :( |
| 22:24.40 | NightHawkTheSane | I would disagree. |
| 22:24.50 | Gnarfoz | you wouldn't know! :D |
| 22:25.01 | foxlit | The new launcher takes forever to actually launch the game? |
| 22:25.16 | Gnarfoz | not really? seems about the same |
| 22:25.26 | foxlit | Hm, so it's just me |
| 22:25.33 | Gnarfoz | meh bed tiems NAO. *turns off irc again* |
| 22:25.38 | foxlit | I get about 15 seconds of non-responsiveness after pressing Play |
| 22:25.44 | Cide | golden |
| 22:26.29 | Cide | when I'm researching a jquery bug http://api.jquery.com/keypress/ goes down |
| 22:26.51 | Cide | api.jquery.com that is |
| 22:27.38 | foxlit | RestrictedExecution:781 Call failed: attempt to call upvalue GetManagedEnvironment (a nil value) |
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| 22:31.06 | foxlit | hah. |
| 22:32.29 | foxlit | So they broke the restricted execution stuff |
| 22:33.53 | foxlit | RestrictedFrames.lua caches a local reference to GetManagedEnvironment... which is not declared as SecureHandlers.lua is loaded *after* RestrictedFrames.lua |
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| 22:42.15 | Adys | kd3: holy crap, they finally added the new water engine in opengl |
| 22:42.28 | kd3 | ! |
| 22:42.44 | Adys | only took them 5 months ..... |
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| 22:43.56 | rocode | b-b-b-beta crash |
| 22:45.02 | Pneumatus | anyone happen to know if/what GetSpellName has been replaced with on beta? |
| 22:46.13 | cbreak | was replaced by GetSpellNameAndSendRealIDToBlizzAndFacebookHAHAHA |
| 22:46.29 | Cide | that was almost funny |
| 22:46.31 | Cide | wait |
| 22:46.37 | Cide | not even almost |
| 22:46.49 | cbreak | I even added laughing... :( |
| 22:47.07 | Zyn | sure is fun having phasing issues, making you unable to progress >_> |
| 22:47.21 | cbreak | progress? In a beta? |
| 22:47.51 | Zyn | meanwhile people zoom by me, passing through a wall that shouldn't be there |
| 22:48.06 | cbreak | bug it and go on :) |
| 22:48.44 | |Jelly| | Dear cogwheel, H8!!! <3 Jelly |
| 22:48.54 | Zyn | it's "Looking Forward" in Vashjir, you can't go on without it |
| 22:49.01 | cog|work | H8U2 <3! |
| 22:49.09 | cog|work | (droid x?) |
| 22:49.13 | |Jelly| | yais |
| 22:49.23 | |Jelly| | But you know that feeling you had a couple hours ago? |
| 22:49.29 | |Jelly| | iDon't have that problem! :P |
| 22:49.37 | cog|work | haha |
| 22:49.58 | |Jelly| | BTW ... jacking that quote from your fb |
| 22:50.31 | cog|work | :) |
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| 22:51.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Zyn: so recopy and try again? :P |
| 22:51.56 | Zyn | no |
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| 22:59.57 | Dashkal | New water in OGL? Sweet! I can play in linux again. I never did get d3d working right. |
| 23:03.37 | Saiket | Lewd on Demand is still the Lost Isle horde guild, right? I never catch anyone online... |
| 23:04.06 | |Jelly| | There's a Lost Isle horde guild? |
| 23:04.08 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 23:05.26 | Dashkal | I'll be glad when the alli guild picks up some. I think I'm earning most of the guild xp right now :P |
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| 23:06.01 | |Jelly| | Well, I'm thinking about burning the rest of my premades on alliance, since I can't ever seem to find anyone on horde. |
| 23:06.21 | NightHawkTheSane | sorry :( |
| 23:07.18 | cog|work | ok... body building women really just need to give up on their tits. Implants look absolutely disgusting... |
| 23:07.26 | |Jelly| | :| |
| 23:07.34 | |Jelly| | I seriously just ate, please don't. :P |
| 23:07.59 | cog|work | don't worry i'm not linking... |
| 23:08.10 | |Jelly| | Thanks |
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| 23:18.33 | |Jelly| | So ... I think I might have just insulted that girl on my FaceBook, cog. :( I blame your quote. |
| 23:18.57 | cog|work | it's all cogwheel's fault |
| 23:19.05 | |Jelly| | Of course |
| 23:19.13 | |Jelly| | Ever since you sang Richard Cheese to me! |
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| 23:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: I see a distinct lack of screenshots |
| 23:26.55 | cog|work | steps away from |Jelly|'s facebook post |
| 23:27.04 | |Jelly| | oh man .. |
| 23:27.26 | cog|away | ima havta bust both y'alls asses |
| 23:27.30 | |Jelly| | Yeah, I went to high school with her and she transitioned from teenage whore to a bible-thumping mommy. |
| 23:27.39 | cog|away | but alas it's time for home (read: verizon store) |
| 23:27.44 | |Jelly| | You could say that I'm not exactly .. afraid. :P |
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| 23:40.11 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_the_Kingdom_of_Humanity.svg |
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| 23:41.25 | rocode | eww, foxlit |
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| 23:57.57 | Kraps | champions online RP ftw |
