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| 00:36.24 | Adys | kd3: [PATCH 4/4] ws2_32: implement AcceptEx and GetAcceptExSockaddrs |
| 00:36.40 | kd3 | whee |
| 00:36.44 | kd3 | tabs open the list |
| 00:39.34 | Adys | kd3: fdupes = best tool ever |
| 00:40.21 | Adys | ./Patches/WoW-3.1.3-to-3.2.0-enGB-Win-patch/wow-final.MPQ |
| 00:40.21 | Adys | ./Updates-EU/WoW-3.1.3-to-3.2.0-enGB-Win-patch/wow-final.MPQ |
| 00:40.22 | Adys | teehee |
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| 00:56.49 | Kraps | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/1946-No-Redeeming-Value |
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| 00:59.29 | Kraps | i wish these came out every day |
| 01:00.45 | Dagmar | I um, don't even know what to make of the visual for "how to use it correctly" |
| 01:01.35 | Kraps | lol |
| 01:02.00 | Dagmar | I take it you saw that and thought "it puts the lotion on it's skin what?" as well. |
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| 01:03.37 | Kraps | more like "some and a bucket = shower?" |
| 01:03.48 | Kraps | s/some/soap/ |
| 01:04.06 | Dagmar | Looked liek lotion to me |
| 01:06.13 | Dagmar | The illustrations are pretty nice |
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| 01:09.45 | Adys | Wow. What a fucking idiot. |
| 01:09.59 | Adys | This guy is using <canvas> to write headlines with his custom font |
| 01:10.08 | Adys | way to break copypaste dude |
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| 01:18.03 | asfd | hello |
| 01:20.27 | asfd | anyone here |
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| 01:24.16 | Kraps | no |
| 01:24.25 | Kraps | we are all gone |
| 01:25.13 | Kraps | its like a thousand voices were silenced something something |
| 01:28.12 | Thunder_Child | uh Kraps, asfd already left |
| 01:28.29 | Kraps | oh |
| 01:28.43 | Kraps | ok then |
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| 01:30.09 | Kraps | http://screwattack.com/videos/Video-Games-and-Sex |
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| 03:02.52 | Arrowmaster | Adys: dont give them any ideas, now instead of javascript trying to highjack the right click menu well have javascript converting all text on a page into canvas elements |
| 03:03.58 | Adys | >< |
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| 03:12.16 | Kraps | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2010/08/ecc677643d640455d8a2dae9af442210/340x.jpg |
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| 04:23.14 | Thunder_Child | http://code.google.com/p/chrometophone/ |
| 04:23.57 | Kraps | willow becomes a lesbian y/n |
| 04:24.16 | Thunder_Child | isnt willow a guy? |
| 04:24.26 | Kraps | no |
| 04:24.37 | Wobin | Kraps: you want spoilers? |
| 04:24.49 | Kraps | idk |
| 04:25.02 | Kraps | i'm leaning towards y |
| 04:25.05 | Wobin | then y |
| 04:25.43 | Wobin | of course, asking if you want spoilers pretty much gave it away anyway |
| 04:26.15 | Kraps | :) |
| 04:28.17 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5620423/amd-announces-8+core-bulldozer-cpu |
| 04:30.37 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5620400/canon-decides-we-need-120-megapixel-sensors |
| 04:31.59 | Thunder_Child | wb Cairenn, just in time for bed |
| 04:32.05 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 04:47.38 | Kraps | season 4 has more of a story arc but is more depressing |
| 04:47.57 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 04:49.53 | Sixen | hai blu |
| 04:50.04 | bluspacecow | hai six |
| 04:50.12 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Any plans to put that in a camera? |
| 04:50.17 | Shirik | or is it just a raw part atm |
| 04:50.24 | Thunder_Child | no idea |
| 04:50.25 | Shirik | waves at Cairenn |
| 04:50.27 | Thunder_Child | but it sounds nice |
| 04:50.35 | bluspacecow | @kraps s4 of _______ ? |
| 04:50.47 | Kraps | buffy |
| 04:51.59 | bluspacecow | oh ! |
| 04:52.22 | bluspacecow | i is still waiting on my comic orde to arrive for that |
| 04:52.30 | bluspacecow | season 8 |
| 04:53.45 | Jerub | anyone here ever used "Rational Team Concert" by those fine folks in blue at IBM. |
| 04:53.58 | bluspacecow | software ? |
| 04:54.27 | bluspacecow | http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/rtc/ ? |
| 04:54.43 | Jerub | yeah. |
| 04:55.16 | bluspacecow | not personally no |
| 04:55.31 | Jerub | well, considering you had to ask, I assumed. :P |
| 04:55.46 | bluspacecow | i was just clarifying :P |
| 04:56.37 | bluspacecow | attempting to help in what little way i can :P |
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| 05:06.46 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 05:07.40 | Kraps | i can see this turning out well... not http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26560570324/exciting-cataclysm-talent-trees-so-far/ |
| 05:08.40 | Thunder_Child | Fisker |
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| 05:13.09 | Fisker | i woke up a happy man Thunder_Child |
| 05:13.30 | Thunder_Child | then dont wake him up next time Fisker |
| 05:13.31 | Fisker | until i really woke up and read that AMD simply renamed the ATi brand |
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| 05:13.44 | Fisker | i was hoping for an early ko |
| 05:13.45 | bluspacecow | Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu------------------- |
| 05:23.07 | Fisker | i don't feel so well bluspacecow |
| 05:23.15 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 05:26.09 | bluspacecow | http://dailyshite.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Twilight-Simple-Logic.jpg |
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| 05:31.47 | Ghettogreen | where do people learn their programming techniques for making modular addons that are split up into separate files? |
| 05:31.57 | Ghettogreen | like Prat 3.0 |
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| 05:34.01 | Ghettogreen | anyone? |
| 05:35.51 | NightHawkTheSane | I can't speak for prat specifically, but I learned through a combination of schooling, reading other's code, experience, and simple practice |
| 05:36.38 | Ghettogreen | that's kind of what I figured |
| 05:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | I suspect other people would offer similar answers, as well. |
| 05:36.59 | Ghettogreen | I used Ace for a while, but I hated not knowing what was going on behind the code |
| 05:37.04 | Ghettogreen | yeah |
| 05:37.45 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* the only solution is to just sit down and do it all yourself. It's a good learning experience, if nothing else. |
| 05:38.16 | bluspacecow | a good book or two on object oriented code design at your local libary ? |
| 05:38.28 | Ghettogreen | that's what I usually do. I just get frustrated when I start losing consistency in my programming styles |
| 05:39.01 | Ghettogreen | yeah, I actually have a couple books written by addon authors. I know the designer and programmer of DBM wrote one I have |
| 05:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | ~wowprogramming |
| 05:39.53 | purl | wowprogramming is probably World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 05:39.55 | Ghettogreen | I definitely need to take a few programming courses at school if I have the time |
| 05:40.07 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ that's the only wow specific book i would particularly recommend. |
| 05:40.15 | bluspacecow | it may help to write down the design on a piece of paper to help you stay consistent |
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| 05:40.19 | Ghettogreen | right that's the one I have |
| 05:40.24 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 05:40.40 | Ghettogreen | yeah, that's one thing I neither learned or taught myself |
| 05:40.42 | NightHawkTheSane | beyond that, it's largely a matter of understanding general concepts, and then the language. |
| 05:40.52 | bluspacecow | if nothing else it means you can walk away from the project when you get frustrated |
| 05:41.03 | Ghettogreen | I usually figure out how I'm going to design it as I'm programming... Not really a good practice |
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| 05:41.17 | Amarande | yays. |
| 05:41.23 | Amarande | Devourer kill No. 17, and I finally get my trinket |
| 05:41.29 | Amarande | No more 219 or below gear at all now :) |
| 05:41.44 | Ghettogreen | grats |
| 05:41.54 | Jerub | i'm still on my 226 neck. |
| 05:41.54 | Amarande | weird ... it wouldn't drop for fifteen kills and then it dropped two days in a row |
| 05:42.00 | Ghettogreen | I need to take a shower.. bbl |
| 05:42.03 | Jerub | but i had a big win this week. |
| 05:42.08 | Amarande | Jerub: I would still be on a 219 if I hadn't got the infected choker this week |
| 05:42.23 | Amarande | this week was a massive upgrade ... battle-maiden's legguards, infected choker, and 264 badge belt |
| 05:42.33 | Amarande | and needle encrusted scorpion |
| 05:42.34 | Jerub | i've been in scrub icc pugs for a long time, and this weekend i got invited to heal for a guild that's lost some members. |
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| 05:42.37 | Amarande | so now I don't need to research Ulduar anymore. :) |
| 05:42.56 | Amarande | I stay in my friends guild but I've become a regular ICC10 raider with another guild |
| 05:43.10 | Jerub | they're mostly kingslayers, they started me tanking on a sindy contuation (didn't get sindy down, too little coordination and a few people there for the first time) then we blizted first 7. |
| 05:43.21 | Amarande | thinking of finding a PUG this week though, since I'm going to miss Thursday's raid |
| 05:43.24 | Amarande | I'll be at Dragon Con |
| 05:43.25 | Jerub | and now they want me to tank in their team on a regular basis. |
| 05:43.52 | Jerub | i have just two badge upgrades left. |
| 05:44.08 | Amarande | I don't have any T10 yet ... but that's because I was using my badges on difficult slots first |
| 05:44.16 | Jerub | yeah, fair enough. |
| 05:44.21 | Amarande | especially the belt, where you're virtually stuck with 219 until the badge belt or a lucky ICC drop |
| 05:44.31 | Jerub | i have 4t10 bear, 3t10 resto, both belts, 1 trinket. |
| 05:44.38 | Amarande | there IS NO 232 dps plate belt from 5-mans or badges |
| 05:44.38 | Jerub | so i've 1 trinket and 1 T10 piece to get |
| 05:44.49 | Jerub | thwaps |
| 05:44.51 | Jerub | 226 crafted |
| 05:44.54 | Amarande | the highest 5-mannable plate belt bar the frost badge one is the one from *regular* ick |
| 05:45.04 | Amarande | ahh, forgot about the runed orb stuff |
| 05:45.17 | Amarande | next upgrade will be 232 T9 helm to 245 badge helm |
| 05:45.19 | Jerub | 226 crafted then get a belt from toc10/25 |
| 05:45.35 | Jerub | yeah, if you have triumph to burn, do that. |
| 05:45.38 | Amarande | and then I guess I'm probably going to shoot for the 245 crusader orb plate chest piece, since I'll be down to 1pt9 then and no sense in keeping it |
| 05:45.39 | Jerub | i always have triumph to burn |
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| 05:51.37 | Wobin | just bought the boots |
| 05:51.43 | Wobin | and the bracers |
| 05:51.53 | Jerub | man. |
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| 05:52.10 | Wobin | I'm a terrible mishmash of blues and purples |
| 05:52.19 | Wobin | I have 4 piece T9 |
| 05:52.33 | Wobin | the Kingly boots, and the saronite sword breakers |
| 05:52.56 | Wobin | Jolly Old Sun and the crafted 200 titansteel shield |
| 05:52.58 | Jerub | 232T9? or do you have some 245?s |
| 05:53.03 | Jerub | ugh |
| 05:53.05 | Jerub | do you raid? |
| 05:53.06 | Wobin | 232 |
| 05:53.10 | Wobin | I've not started yet =) |
| 05:53.18 | Wobin | I dinged 80 on friday |
| 05:53.23 | Jerub | first 80? |
| 05:53.27 | Wobin | nope |
| 05:53.29 | Jerub | or are you just talking about your warrior? |
| 05:53.32 | Amarande | Wobin, do you even qualify for HHoR yet? :) |
| 05:53.34 | Wobin | just about my warrior =P |
| 05:53.38 | Wobin | Amarande: no =) |
| 05:53.47 | Wobin | but I'll be tanking ICC10 on thursday =P |
| 05:53.52 | Jerub | oooh, it's got my heal set on ea |
| 05:53.54 | Jerub | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Dath'Remar/Brandi |
| 05:53.58 | Wobin | it'll be... interesting |
| 05:54.01 | Amarande | heh, I'm STILL not sure exactly what the threshold for HHoR is, or even if it's ilvl based at all |
| 05:54.02 | Jerub | crap, it might refresh |
| 05:54.10 | Amarande | it might be something fuzzy like "full level 80 epics" |
| 05:54.15 | Jerub | nope, still on my heal set. |
| 05:54.24 | Amarande | what I know for sure is that even 5PT9 isn't enough by itself |
| 05:54.35 | Jerub | 5T9? what a waste |
| 05:54.44 | Jerub | why did you get the T9 hat instead of the 245 hat? |
| 05:54.47 | Wobin | I'd link, but I'm in my dps set |
| 05:54.58 | Amarande | Jerub: not entirely sure, since the next triumph upgrade I'm going for IS the 245 hat |
| 05:55.30 | Wobin | also managed to get the Rowan Rifle for relatively cheap =P |
| 05:55.40 | Amarande | although it made upgrading a lot more worry free, I've been able to get all my ICC pieces equipped so far without having to weigh whether losing all T9 bonus is worth it |
| 05:55.50 | Amarande | and since I'm down to 2PT9, I would have lost all T9 bonus earlier if I had had the 245 hat |
| 05:56.57 | sylvanaar | good morning |
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| 05:58.23 | Jerub | yeah, the rifle is awesome |
| 05:58.41 | Jerub | just get that rifle otu of the way and you don't have to upgrade that slot ever again until cata |
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| 06:03.33 | Wobin | I'm just glad I had some spare cash |
| 06:03.40 | Wobin | to spend on the rifle/saronite |
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| 06:12.44 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/08/29/funny-pictures-weekend-almost-gone/ |
| 06:13.23 | Cairenn | heh |
| 06:13.49 | zenzio | beautiful kitteh |
| 06:14.08 | Cairenn | yes |
| 06:14.23 | Amarande | Heya Cairenn :) |
| 06:14.28 | Cairenn | hi hi |
| 06:14.32 | Cairenn | why aren't you asleep? |
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| 06:19.00 | zenzio | http://dailysquee.com/2010/08/29/cute-baby-animals-kill-kill-kill/ - rawr! |
| 06:19.10 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 06:20.00 | Amarande | Cairenn: I'm off tomorrow, and raid isn't till 10PM? :) |
| 06:20.07 | Cairenn | ah |
| 06:21.07 | Amarande | the heck? talon king ikiss has less HP than the first boss? |
| 06:21.30 | zenzio | he's a caster, isn't he? |
| 06:22.05 | Amarande | think so |
| 06:22.08 | Amarande | but so's the other boss if I recall |
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| 06:25.55 | Amarande | ... on to shadow labs. |
| 06:26.02 | Amarande | maybe this one will actually pose something of a challenge solo. |
| 06:26.10 | zenzio | I actually miss that instance |
| 06:26.11 | Amarande | seeing as I've only ever even actually died *once* in Auchindoun on this 80 |
| 06:26.25 | Amarande | that was on mana tombs, before I remembered Anomalus pulls the whole room like Mograine |
| 06:26.56 | Amarande | actually, come to think of it |
| 06:27.03 | Amarande | can this be soloed without like, 277 gear? |
| 06:27.16 | Amarande | it just occurred to me ... you basically have to burn Inciter down before the first MC if you're solo no? |
| 06:27.18 | Amarande | otherwise, he'll reset? |
| 06:27.28 | Amarande | (or does MC not happen at all if you're solo, like with most mobs that cast it?) |
| 06:27.42 | zenzio | try it and see :-p |
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| 06:34.01 | Amarande | shadow labs is apparently quite good for the aldor rep, too |
| 06:36.36 | Amarande | also: which BC heroics can be soloed by DKs in high end DPS gear, and which basically require tank gear? |
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| 06:37.12 | Jerub | has anyone here tanked PP? |
| 06:39.12 | nevcairiel | I've tanked pretty much everything in game, but i can't put my finger on what PP is supposed to be :d |
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| 06:40.04 | eidolarr | have you tanked, c'thun |
| 06:40.10 | Amarande | Professor Putricide, Nev |
| 06:40.18 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
| 06:40.31 | eidolarr | few people have tanked cthun |
| 06:40.38 | eidolarr | so are you a mexican or a mexican't |
| 06:40.41 | nevcairiel | c'thun himself doesnt require much tanking, tbh! |
| 06:40.42 | bluspacecow | i need a quick and dirty map co-ords macro ... any takers ? |
| 06:40.50 | bluspacecow | 1 line and less characters as possible |
| 06:41.02 | Jerub | i healed on c'thun |
| 06:41.05 | eidolarr | well |
| 06:41.37 | eidolarr | if you install sexymap or sometihng like it you can take a screenshot, use some external program to extract the coordinates part of it |
| 06:41.45 | Jerub | PP = Professor Putricide... |
| 06:41.48 | eidolarr | then read the pixels as numbers and illegally write directly to wow's memory |
| 06:42.03 | Jerub | i'm after someone who's piloted the abom because i'm trying to figure otu what i'm doing wrong. |
| 06:42.20 | nevcairiel | you should ask that instead of asking who tanked him =P |
| 06:42.59 | nevcairiel | whats not working when you run that thing? |
| 06:43.04 | Xyphoid | running behind? |
| 06:44.04 | Amarande | ok, either MC doesn't happen when you fight inciter solo, or it's just that I was doing 5700+ DPS on him and he was burned down too fast :) |
| 06:44.17 | nevcairiel | its not happening when you're solo |
| 06:44.22 | nevcairiel | otherwise he would reset |
| 06:44.43 | Wobin | or you'd get MC'd |
| 06:44.45 | Wobin | run around |
| 06:44.45 | Jerub | nevcairiel: oh, uh. it's just that i need someone who's actually done it, as opposed to read a guide , because i think the guides might be wrong... |
| 06:44.46 | Wobin | then unMC |
| 06:45.02 | Wobin | cause Inciter MCs -everyone- |
| 06:45.08 | Wobin | so he wouldn't reset if everyone is MC'd |
| 06:46.08 | Jerub | oh, and fuck, sindy is a hard fight :D |
| 06:48.02 | Amarande | also: please give mages the option to Polymorph: Spider like the guys in Blood wing. :) |
| 06:48.08 | nevcairiel | its just one of those fights where people need to pay f'ing attention |
| 06:48.59 | Wobin | Jerub: yeah =( We're currently working on her |
| 06:49.17 | Jerub | Wobin: i had a chance to come in on a continuation. |
| 06:49.23 | Amarande | nev: from what I've heard about the ice sneakers, it's also one of those fights like BQL where shit can go unexpectedly south QUICKLY |
| 06:49.24 | Xyphoid | we try her tomorrow assuming people don't fail at vali this week |
| 06:49.26 | Xyphoid | sounds like fun |
| 06:49.45 | Xyphoid | assembling frost resist gear was so retro |
| 06:49.58 | Wobin | yeah |
| 06:50.05 | Wobin | if you get too close to someone getting frost tombed |
| 06:50.08 | nevcairiel | are we talking normal or heroic? :d |
| 06:50.09 | Wobin | you get frost tombed too |
| 06:50.22 | Wobin | we had issues when half the raid suddenly gets iced =P |
| 06:50.22 | Amarande | Wobin: which means if ANY of the MDPS get frost tombed ... they ALL do, I'm presuming |
| 06:50.29 | Amarande | AND SO DO THE TANKS |
| 06:50.44 | Wobin | cause people either pay too much attention, or not enough |
| 06:50.45 | Amarande | ... yeah, Sindy seems like a fight where you really want a ranged heavy raid |
| 06:50.47 | nevcairiel | see, thats why the guy getting iced has a big arrow on top of his head |
| 06:50.50 | nevcairiel | and should f'ing move! |
| 06:50.57 | Wobin | nevcairiel: in a tasteful pale purple =P |
| 06:51.02 | bluspacecow | heh |
| 06:51.04 | Wobin | That's actually not easy to see =) |
| 06:51.12 | Amarande | glah, something is definitely very odd about hit % in older instances when you go back in at 80 |
| 06:51.16 | Wobin | (thank -god- for hudmap) |
| 06:51.19 | bluspacecow | my night of skinning everything i grinded on my level 9 mage paid off |
| 06:51.22 | Wobin | (*hugs Antiarc*) |
| 06:51.23 | Amarande | at 60 or 70, caster mobs were always much more dangerous than all but the strongest melee |
| 06:51.29 | bluspacecow | shes 21 GOLD richer now :) |
| 06:51.37 | Amarande | at 80 going back to 60 or 70 instances, it's almost always the *melee* mobs that are dangerous, and the casters aren't much at all |
| 06:51.47 | Antiarc | what |
| 06:51.49 | Wobin | Amarande: mostly cause they miss |
| 06:51.50 | Amarande | because for some reason, while spell hit seems to function as I'd expect it to on that level difference |
| 06:51.55 | Amarande | it seems melee mobs ALWAYS HIT NO MATTER YOUR LEVEL |
| 06:51.57 | Amarande | I'm not sure why. |
| 06:51.58 | Jerub | what's hudmap? |
| 06:52.13 | Wobin | Antiarc: ty for hudmap |
| 06:52.14 | Jerub | Amarande: casters are hella dangerous. |
| 06:52.17 | Antiarc | hudmap is the tears of a million raiders distilled down into crystallized awesome |
| 06:52.45 | Jerub | Amarande: POS with the hill, casters in ICC trash, even the casters in uk |
| 06:52.59 | Jerub | anything that requires you correctly target and selectively stun/interrupt/taunt. |
| 06:53.04 | Jerub | the casters in HOR |
| 06:53.08 | Amarande | Jerub: yeah |
| 06:53.12 | Amarande | that's what I was saying |
| 06:53.22 | Jerub | oh, right. |
| 06:53.23 | Jerub | heh |
| 06:53.29 | Amarande | in at-level instances, casters are almost always more dangerous (unless you're talking mega hitter melee like some of the orcs in Heroic Shattered Halls) |
| 06:53.42 | Jerub | so no one ehre has tanked PP? :( |
| 06:53.44 | Amarande | but when you're 80, for some reason casters miss as often as you'd expect, but melee *still always hit* |
| 06:53.46 | Amarande | I'm not sure why |
| 06:54.10 | Amarande | And yeah, mages in HOR are particularly dangerous, mainly because of flamestrike |
| 06:54.12 | Wobin | Jerub: I've healed it! |
| 06:54.22 | Amarande | flamestrike is actually far, far worse there than anywhere else |
| 06:54.22 | Wobin | afaik, tanking PP is fairlys straightforward |
| 06:54.29 | Jerub | Wobin: we 1shot it when they swapped me to heals. |
| 06:54.32 | nevcairiel | Jerub: i've tanked it, but not driven the abo =P |
| 06:54.34 | Amarande | 1) there's the synergy with the rifle guys' frost trap snare |
| 06:54.41 | Wobin | you want to move him so that melee don't have to shift too far from the ooze |
| 06:54.54 | Amarande | 2) at least half the time in a random 5-man, you're going to have a Pally or DK tank |
| 06:55.07 | Jerub | Wobin: nah, i mean abom driving. |
| 06:55.09 | Amarande | and their AoE tanking involves covering the floor in crap that makes it impossible to see flamestrike except by taking damage 'cause you're standing in it |
| 06:55.17 | Jerub | i'm trying to figure out why i can't clean up puddles fast enough |
| 06:55.18 | Wobin | oh. |
| 06:55.22 | Wobin | I can ask, one second |
| 06:55.27 | nevcairiel | keep hitting the button |
| 06:55.28 | Amarande | *this*, is why I always tend to head straight for the mage and burn her down while the tank and the rest handle the others in the spirit waves |
| 06:55.29 | nevcairiel | alot |
| 06:55.29 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 06:55.37 | Jerub | there's some conjecture that it makes a diffence if you're dead center of the puddle |
| 06:55.42 | Jerub | ther was also some discussion on latency. |
| 06:55.57 | Amarande | and it actually works, probably because I'm pretty well geared, and use my interrupts well |
| 06:56.21 | Wobin | <Jirra> Spam the button and move off before the last piece disappears |
| 06:56.34 | Jerub | really? move before it disappears/ |
| 06:56.40 | Jerub | weird. |
| 06:56.43 | Wobin | I assume it'll disappear anyway |
| 06:56.47 | Jerub | does it matter about positioning? |
| 06:56.55 | Wobin | <Jirra> Make sure that the pull happens just as you get within aggro radius so you can get the debuff as early as possible |
| 06:56.56 | Jerub | or does anywhere on the puddle work. |
| 06:57.29 | Jerub | i ended up with 5-6 large puddles by 40%, and the other tank had time to slap the boss because no puddles were up. |
| 06:57.34 | Wobin | the previous advice means, I think, -you- pull, and the other tank pulls off you |
| 06:58.00 | Wobin | no suggestions as to slime positioning |
| 06:58.05 | Wobin | aside from having the raid bunch up |
| 06:58.07 | Jerub | ugh, okay. |
| 06:58.13 | Wobin | so you have a good guess as to where the slime will appear |
| 06:58.27 | Wobin | and don't have to move far |
| 06:58.27 | Amarande | heh, the final boss of shadow labs is one of Solomon's 72 |
| 06:58.28 | Jerub | this raid played the stack on the table strat |
| 06:58.42 | Wobin | hm, never heard of that one |
| 06:59.25 | Amarande | sooo ... |
| 06:59.35 | Amarande | will we be soloing LK instances as easily at 85 as we do BC ones at 80? |
| 06:59.49 | Xyphoid | sure, people are already soloing nexus etc |
| 07:00.09 | Jerub | there's that rogue who soloed patchwork on 25 |
| 07:00.50 | Wobin | I wouldn't call that 'soloing' |
| 07:01.11 | Wobin | and the end result wasn't worth the effort imo |
| 07:01.40 | Wobin | but sure, if you want to spend 5 hours doing the same thing over and over for 25man patchwerk loot... once a week... |
| 07:02.15 | Jerub | does it take 5 hours? |
| 07:02.21 | Jerub | surely he'd hit enrage and kill. |
| 07:02.30 | Xyphoid | aw doing anything like that is worth it |
| 07:02.31 | Xyphoid | once |
| 07:02.45 | Xyphoid | apparently magtheridon can be soloed, i want to try that |
| 07:03.16 | Amarande | Does Maggie have a hard enrage timer? |
| 07:03.32 | Amarande | I can't remember now ... |
| 07:03.58 | Amarande | I'm trying to remember which BC bosses have hard enrages ... some like Illidan do, then there's ones like Gruul that to my knowledge don't |
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| 07:04.18 | Amarande | Gruul, IIRC, just gets a stacking damage buff till your survival resources can't take it anymore |
| 07:05.12 | Wobin | Jerub: that rogue abused shadowstep with a dig rat to kill patchwerk25 |
| 07:05.24 | Wobin | also to avoid the enrage timer |
| 07:05.30 | nevcairiel | maggy requires you to click those cubes, dont think it works solo |
| 07:05.35 | bluspacecow | anyone running beta right now ? |
| 07:07.46 | bluspacecow | just wondering if /dump GetPlayerMapPosition("Player") still returns something or if the function's changed |
| 07:08.45 | nevcairiel | we won't know until the next patch enables addons |
| 07:09.17 | bluspacecow | i thought they were enabled already |
| 07:09.23 | bluspacecow | so the /dump command still no worky ? |
| 07:09.52 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 07:10.25 | bluspacecow | no working macros either ? |
| 07:11.27 | nevcairiel | macros, sure, just not with /dump, /print, /run or /script |
| 07:12.27 | Jerub | Wobin: did it really take 5 hours? |
| 07:12.37 | bluspacecow | so does the macro @ post # 14 of http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26435508406&sid=2000 work ? |
| 07:12.48 | bluspacecow | oh wait /script |
| 07:12.49 | bluspacecow | i c |
| 07:12.51 | bluspacecow | ty nev |
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| 07:14.48 | Xyphoid | for mag you just eat the blast waves |
| 07:15.33 | Amarande | also, did that rogue get a 72 hour ban for exploiting and his loot taken away afterwards? heh |
| 07:16.00 | Xyphoid | it's 12500 damage over 10 seconds for not clicking, not a huge problem |
| 07:16.11 | Amarande | Xyphoid: can that be AMS'd, btw? |
| 07:16.32 | Amarande | is finding that to be possibly the most wonderful skill DKs ever get |
| 07:16.36 | Amarande | that and Icebound Fortitude |
| 07:16.48 | Amarande | there are so many boss fights you can break "the usual rules" on by negating a key boss skill with one or the other :) |
| 07:17.00 | Xyphoid | haven't tried him yet, don't see why not - it's a blast nova |
| 07:17.19 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.24 | Wobin | http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/720283-Patchwerk-25-Solo-Kill-Blue-posts |
| 07:17.35 | Amarande | hell even things like Lana'thel's mass fear and Ymiron's stun thing can be blocked. |
| 07:17.49 | Xyphoid | yep, IF'ing ymiron is great fun |
| 07:18.05 | Amarande | although strangely enough NOT Forgemaster's stun stomp thing in PoS ... I'm not sure why |
| 07:18.14 | Amarande | (and you can't seem to block Paletress's confession thing either) |
| 07:18.35 | Jerub | did you just say you were yiffing ymiron? |
| 07:18.38 | Amarande | unless there are "stun" effects that are treated as an untyped disable and merely tooltipped as stun? |
| 07:19.09 | Amarande | seeing as tooltips are not at all derived straight from the effects of stuff :S |
| 07:19.28 | Amarande | not item tooltips either, I've seen at least two wordings of "increases your armor penetration rating" for no good reason I can tell :| |
| 07:19.43 | Amarande | I'd think something like that would be generated from the stat directly rather than having to be texted in |
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| 07:28.59 | Xyphoid | goddamn bikini plate armor |
| 07:30.07 | Jerub | zoom out moar |
| 07:30.12 | Jerub | that way you can't see it |
| 07:31.06 | Amarande | hmm |
| 07:31.24 | Amarande | trade chat guy is wondering whether the crusader enchant formula is out in cata, due to the rebalancing and releveling of the Plaguelands |
| 07:31.47 | Amarande | Xyphoid: lemme guess, you play a female blood elf paladin tank and were forced by common sense to take the bra from Sunken Temple |
| 07:31.50 | Jerub | Amarande: quick, farm the 0.01% drop |
| 07:32.06 | Amarande | anyway, anyone in beta know whether that formula is still in? |
| 07:32.11 | Amarande | or whether it might be on a trainer now if it's not? |
| 07:32.33 | Jerub | crusader at a trainer? |
| 07:32.35 | Jerub | that'slols. |
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| 07:33.37 | Xyphoid | no, it's a human dk wearing the dps chestpiece from saurfang |
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| 07:36.36 | Ghettogreen | Anybody want a hardly used Power Mac G5 dual 2Ghz with NVIDIA GeForce 60600 256Mb graphics card? |
| 07:36.45 | Ghettogreen | I need an Intel Mac |
| 07:37.15 | bluspacecow | me too |
| 07:37.34 | bluspacecow | probably going to get one plus have the debt from going to blizzcon on top of that |
| 07:37.37 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 07:37.50 | Ghettogreen | heh yeah, I saw that on the forum topic |
| 07:38.13 | Ghettogreen | you need to sell the in-game pet on eBay. That'll put some money in your pocket |
| 07:38.38 | bluspacecow | how much tho ? |
| 07:38.44 | Ghettogreen | I've sold two now for over $300 each... |
| 07:39.27 | Ghettogreen | you wouldn't believe the bidding wars people get into |
| 07:39.46 | Jerub | Ghettogreen: sorry, already have a quad 2.5ghz i don't use. |
| 07:41.01 | Jerub | don't remember what graphics it has, i remember being undewhealmed. |
| 07:42.22 | Ghettogreen | you probably had an older model, before they had PCI-Express slots for the video and expansion cards |
| 07:42.43 | Ghettogreen | They were AGP, if I recall |
| 07:43.06 | Jerub | Ghettogreen: this one is the last one they released. |
| 07:43.15 | Jerub | quad 2.5ghz. |
| 07:43.30 | Ghettogreen | oh, I didn't see the 'quad' |
| 07:43.33 | Jerub | 2 x dual core chips |
| 07:43.48 | Jerub | it was costing too much power to run |
| 07:43.58 | Jerub | i built a comparable machine from parts that used 1/4 the power |
| 07:44.13 | Ghettogreen | yeah, PPC was terribly inefficient |
| 07:44.20 | Fisker | no Ghettogreen |
| 07:44.32 | Fisker | noone wants a mac |
| 07:44.33 | Fisker | :3 |
| 07:44.39 | Ghettogreen | pft |
| 07:45.45 | Ghettogreen | yeah, the G5 does use a lot of power. The damn thing has a huge relay switch that flips when you turn the power on and off. |
| 07:46.01 | Ghettogreen | makes a huge *click* sound and the lights dim for a split second |
| 07:46.33 | Jerub | this one drew 300W while idle. |
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| 07:46.36 | Ghettogreen | it was pretty unnerving when I first turned it on, the lights dimmed, and all 8 (eight!) fans started running at full speed |
| 07:46.44 | Jerub | and something like 100W while in suspend. |
| 07:46.54 | Jerub | it's not just ppc. |
| 07:47.05 | Jerub | btw, this is epic: http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2010/08/man-who-re-open.html |
| 07:47.14 | bluspacecow | O_O never knew that about the power |
| 07:47.25 | bluspacecow | i hate the glowy light on the front of mine |
| 07:47.31 | Jerub | get a power meter |
| 07:47.33 | Jerub | save the planet |
| 07:48.08 | Ghettogreen | meh we run off of nuclear power |
| 07:48.12 | Fisker | Jerub u |
| 07:48.15 | Ghettogreen | and electricity is cheap |
| 07:48.40 | Ghettogreen | I have a second Apple Cinema Display sitting next to me with the iTunes visualizer on |
| 07:48.48 | Ghettogreen | and I'm not even listening to music XD |
| 07:50.26 | Fisker | i fart on apple hardware |
| 07:50.39 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 07:50.51 | Fisker | watches as chunks fly off |
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| 07:59.16 | Ghettogreen | Protip: The Sharpie Liquid Pencil is great for planning addons. It's erasable, yet it dries permanent in over 3 days. |
| 07:59.57 | bluspacecow | *hacksaw jim dugan thumbs up* |
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| 08:05.11 | eidolarr | plain pencils are even better |
| 08:06.12 | eidolarr | they are erasable and can be burned for fuel |
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| 08:09.28 | tekkub | people still use paper? |
| 08:09.53 | tekkub | I thought that was just for receipts at the store (except the apple store) |
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| 08:13.08 | eidolarr | yeah man |
| 08:13.16 | eidolarr | a good notebook can work wonders |
| 08:20.55 | industrial | I have |
| 08:21.08 | industrial | said I have in the wrong channel. |
| 08:30.20 | sylvanaar | "said in the wrong channel I have" |
| 08:30.49 | sylvanaar | "when 800 years old you are, look as good you will not" |
| 08:32.20 | Ghettogreen | Does anyone know if Shure replaces those in-ear foam inserts for free if the headphones are still under warranty? |
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| 08:36.43 | bluspacecow | ~wiki HRV |
| 08:37.35 | Ghettogreen | what does that have to do with headphones? |
| 08:38.05 | bluspacecow | nothing |
| 08:38.07 | zenzio | who says it has anything to do with headphones? |
| 08:38.14 | zenzio | this is IRC, several conversations overlap |
| 08:38.23 | bluspacecow | someone was talking about an HRV on another channel and needed a quick wiki lookup |
| 08:38.33 | bluspacecow | wasnt sure what the bot was called so just called it |
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| 08:39.10 | Ghettogreen | ohhhh |
| 08:39.25 | Ghettogreen | sorry, new to IRC |
| 08:39.25 | zenzio | ~logs |
| 08:39.26 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily |
| 08:39.36 | zenzio | Ghettogreen: hehe |
| 08:39.41 | bluspacecow | yeah i should of pust PM'ed it or alt-tabbed to a browser |
| 08:46.16 | Amarande | well that's news to me. |
| 08:46.22 | Amarande | apparently, now on dual wield DK |
| 08:46.33 | Amarande | it's better to put razorfrost in the MH and fallen crusader in the OH now |
| 08:46.39 | Amarande | assuming equal DPS/speed weapons |
| 08:49.13 | Fisker | i make no such assumptions |
| 08:49.52 | Fisker | btw Ghettogreen |
| 08:49.57 | Fisker | last i heard you could still erase it |
| 08:49.59 | Ghettogreen | does tinsert (or table.insert) work for non array tables? |
| 08:49.59 | Fisker | so i disagree |
| 08:50.05 | Ghettogreen | what? |
| 08:50.10 | Fisker | your shitty pen |
| 08:50.13 | Fisker | you can still erase it |
| 08:50.18 | Ghettogreen | oh yeah |
| 08:50.22 | Ghettogreen | that's what I've heard |
| 08:50.28 | Ghettogreen | but it's still the best erasable pen I've used |
| 08:52.19 | Ghettogreen | okay, so back to my question... I know that storing the variable of another table into a new variable won't copy the contents of the original variable, so how would I copy a table from one chunk to an existing table outside of the chunk? |
| 08:52.45 | Ghettogreen | I've done it before, but it's been a while |
| 08:56.19 | eidolarr | well |
| 08:56.36 | eidolarr | does it need to be deep copied? does it have tables inside itself that you also want copied recursively? |
| 08:56.46 | Ghettogreen | no, it's a blank table |
| 08:57.08 | eidolarr | then what are you copying? |
| 08:57.12 | Ghettogreen | wait, why would I want to copy a blank table... |
| 08:57.21 | eidolarr | =) |
| 08:57.22 | Ghettogreen | rofl never mind |
| 08:57.23 | jnwhiteh | no one knows =) |
| 08:57.30 | Ghettogreen | I'm rusty |
| 08:57.41 | Ghettogreen | and it's late |
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| 08:58.42 | eidolarr | come to think of it, a copy of a table with a reference loop could be interesting |
| 09:01.38 | Ghettogreen | nah it just overwrites the reference |
| 09:02.46 | eidolarr | well if you had like t {}; t.self = t; |
| 09:03.14 | eidolarr | then you would have to save a mapping from original table to copy table for every table you see |
| 09:03.29 | Ghettogreen | -_- |
| 09:03.59 | Ghettogreen | I need to go watch Inception before I do recursion programming |
| 09:07.09 | eidolarr | they should add some radiohead songs that aren't creep to rock band |
| 09:13.34 | Arrowmaster | eidolarr: the only one i can think of is Paranoid Android |
| 09:14.10 | eidolarr | is that in it? |
| 09:14.14 | eidolarr | or is that a suggestion? |
| 09:14.52 | Arrowmaster | thats the only radiohead song i can think of |
| 09:15.13 | eidolarr | oh, yeah, that would be a fun one |
| 09:15.45 | eidolarr | they did some weird electronic shit for a few years but their newest cd is brighter and guitar driven, some songs from that could be fun |
| 09:16.52 | eidolarr | like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-RllNyZt90 |
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| 10:05.11 | Wobin | eidolarr: plastic trees? |
| 10:05.16 | Wobin | Exit Music? |
| 10:06.00 | Wobin | although exit music probably wouldn't be good for rockband |
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| 10:06.25 | Wobin | eidolarr: also: http://music.amandapalmer.net/album/amanda-palmer-performs-the-popular-hits-of-radiohead-on-her-magical-ukulele |
| 10:06.37 | eidolarr | i think 2+2=5 or wolf at the door could be fun |
| 10:07.51 | eidolarr | this is cool |
| 10:08.07 | Wobin | AFP? |
| 10:08.39 | eidolarr | ?? |
| 10:10.02 | eidolarr | i wish they had ashes in the snow, i would buy the game just for that, but idk how it would work |
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| 10:32.58 | harl | huhu |
| 10:43.25 | Kalroth | hi harl! |
| 10:44.22 | harl | :) |
| 10:59.35 | Jerub | uuuuguggghghughughugghghhhhhhh |
| 11:00.06 | Jerub | RL in greens+blues doing ony25. passed lead when asked but refused to give up master-looter, and refused to state loot rules. |
| 11:00.24 | Jerub | fortunately, that came to a head before we wiped more than once and i managed to hearth |
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| 11:19.23 | A-KO | I love the new digg |
| 11:20.20 | eidolarr | you are the only one |
| 11:20.54 | A-KO | I like the new digg because I can ignore all of the retarded conservative articles that get dugg to the top by interest groups. |
| 11:20.59 | A-KO | I can go there, get just the news I want |
| 11:21.08 | A-KO | and no amount of digging can force me to see it |
| 11:21.19 | A-KO | it's fantastic |
| 11:21.46 | A-KO | unless they start posting them under technology or something |
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| 11:22.38 | A-KO | it just gets rid of the concept that news on digg is an abused voting system |
| 11:22.44 | eidolarr | I prefer reddit although it's a bit too incestuously liberal-minded |
| 11:22.57 | A-KO | theo nly reason there are so many complaints is because there are a lot of accounts and people with agendas on it |
| 11:23.10 | eidolarr | tbh both are collosal wastes of time, these days i just skim hacker news once daily |
| 11:23.15 | A-KO | either companies pushing articles because they're paid, or political groups paying to get articles pushed |
| 11:23.25 | A-KO | and I'd rather not |
| 11:23.44 | A-KO | I can follow people on digg, follow sites, and get news just for what I want to see and what I'd actually be interested in |
| 11:23.58 | A-KO | and nobody can pay any amount of money to get onto my front page |
| 11:24.05 | A-KO | if I don't subscribe to it :P |
| 11:24.24 | eidolarr | yeah true, but you can do that with reddit too |
| 11:24.49 | A-KO | well, digg takes it a step further--so things your friends are reading or might come across, it comes up to you as well. |
| 11:24.50 | eidolarr | hacker news is like technology-only anyways, the discussions there tend to be way more insightful |
| 11:24.54 | A-KO | that's different from the other sites :P |
| 11:25.10 | A-KO | yeah, hackernews is--until agenda groups start to take it over |
| 11:25.18 | A-KO | Digg is kind of one step ahead of these other sites |
| 11:25.38 | A-KO | hackernews and reddit will start to feel the brunt of these organizations soon enough |
| 11:25.49 | A-KO | reddit more than hacker news though |
| 11:25.58 | eidolarr | hacker news is kind of different, since you can only upvote things, and since it's small enough that the admins can watch for fishy behavior by hand |
| 11:26.06 | A-KO | "small enough"--for now |
| 11:26.25 | eidolarr | it already sort of happens on reddit but they are too liberal collectively and will burn anything conservative down lol |
| 11:26.32 | A-KO | I think part of Digg's problem is also that not a lot of people really understand it either |
| 11:26.44 | A-KO | so you combine groups that are bitching up a storm, with people that don't understand the new concept |
| 11:26.54 | A-KO | I think Digg executed the new site poorly on that front |
| 11:27.05 | A-KO | they should have had a video or flash intro of the new site previewing what it was designed to do |
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| 11:27.12 | A-KO | it would have made the move a LOT more palatable |
| 11:28.06 | A-KO | because if enough "people" (organizations, political groups) bitch enough about the new digg, and there's like one feature a person doesn't understand, then they'll connect the dots in their head |
| 11:28.42 | eidolarr | more and more i feel the internet is overrated though |
| 11:28.44 | A-KO | it's like, if enough people say a movie sucks, many people won't go to see it--even if it's a movie that they might like |
| 11:29.35 | A-KO | nah |
| 11:29.43 | A-KO | I keep in touch wit ha lot of people over the internet :P |
| 11:29.53 | eidolarr | 2yeah but i mean like digg, reddit |
| 11:30.02 | eidolarr | you can waste away reading that shit |
| 11:31.04 | A-KO | sometimes. It's unfortunate that the news isn't more insightful, but at the same time, a vast majority of people aren't that insightful. |
| 11:31.28 | A-KO | And sometimes it's just good to pull your head outo f whatever you're doing and just read something else for once.....heh |
| 11:32.17 | A-KO | I read a LOT of technology-stuff, hell, I'm subscribed to Microsoft's Technet RSS, read the magazine, read a lot of tech stuff--technical books, white papers, articles, the whole 9 yards.....I lose a lot of touch with stuff if I don't pull my head out of that for a while and read something else :P |
| 11:34.18 | eidolarr | and by "read something else" you mean "look at funny cat pictures" |
| 11:34.27 | A-KO | nah |
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| 12:59.12 | |Jelly| | tackles Peppy! |
| 13:02.12 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jellydear! |
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| 13:03.44 | |Jelly| | :) |
| 13:03.47 | |Jelly| | How are you? |
| 13:05.15 | Lopeppeppy | Getting over that whole food-poisoning thing! I'm at work, that's an improvement. |
| 13:05.25 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.56 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks. Being sick is no fun! *stomps foot* |
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| 13:22.12 | Lopeppeppy | How's things down south treating you, Jelly-dear? |
| 13:22.36 | zenzio | is that innuendo? |
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| 13:23.47 | Lopeppeppy | I would never innuendoze Jelly! |
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| 13:32.51 | Kraps | does the channel turn off join and quit messages? |
| 13:33.13 | zenzio | channel? No |
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| 13:33.45 | Kraps | so why cant i see any? |
| 13:33.50 | Xinhuan | its a client side setting |
| 13:33.55 | Xinhuan | and usually per-channel as well |
| 13:34.05 | Xinhuan | dependant on your IRC client |
| 13:34.10 | zenzio | Kraps: you may have turned on Conversation Mode or something in your client |
| 13:35.43 | Kraps | woot got it |
| 13:35.49 | Kraps | Conference Mode |
| 13:41.41 | Lopeppeppy | Convention mode? *giggle* |
| 13:41.54 | zenzio | Confusion mode! |
| 13:42.09 | Lopeppeppy | I would nev-ar! |
| 13:42.36 | zenzio | you would too; it's a passive gender buff on girls |
| 13:43.17 | Kraps | apparently you can set Conference Mode to turn on after x amount of users are in the channel |
| 13:43.31 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio, do not make me fly over there to kick your hiney! |
| 13:43.59 | zenzio | grins at the idea |
| 13:44.50 | Xinhuan | lua> 2^52 |
| 13:44.55 | Xinhuan | who's got a bot lol |
| 13:46.36 | Lopeppeppy | Is lua-bot not running? |
| 13:46.38 | Kraps | here http://media.canada.com/f2c776c7-d458-449d-bcf0-aad47cf9b1ec/bey456ggj5.jpg |
| 13:47.20 | zenzio | ... what? |
| 13:47.56 | Kraps | its a sexbot! |
| 13:48.54 | cbreak_work | C3PO's girlfriend. |
| 13:49.06 | zenzio | she's a gold digger |
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| 13:53.13 | Synycyl | Hey all... so I've been reading up on the cata ui changes... we had any sneak peaks at api changes? |
| 13:53.43 | Lopeppeppy | You're looking for a list? |
| 13:53.50 | zenzio | they showed us a tail call |
| 13:54.46 | Synycyl | If there is a list of api changes sure. If there is simple talk I'm down for that... I'm looking specifically at skills. I haven't seen weapon skills anywhere! |
| 13:55.23 | zenzio | weren't they removing those? |
| 13:55.25 | Synycyl | I'm just bored at work and hopped on here from the phone to bs with you guys lol! |
| 13:55.27 | Kraps | ^ |
| 13:55.41 | Kraps | @zenio |
| 13:55.46 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560766722&sid=2000 |
| 13:55.53 | Synycyl | Ok so weapon skills removed! Nice I can cut that out of an update lol. |
| 13:56.12 | Lopeppeppy | Here's what Iriel has collected. http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626580975&sid=1 |
| 13:56.13 | zenzio | peppy's link seems like a good place |
| 13:56.46 | Lopeppeppy | It's all still in beta, it's hard to make a list that they're going to just change next build. :) |
| 13:57.10 | Lopeppeppy | Iriel is my favorite other-dino at this time of the morning, his thread is solid information. |
| 13:58.59 | Xinhuan | anyone knows if a 15-digit integer in Lua will be written as a 15-digit integer in savedvars? |
| 13:59.05 | Synycyl | Right... well I know with only one addon I won't get a beta key, but maybe I should hold off on my next core update til xpansion. They have a date yet or we still just guessing nov! |
| 13:59.26 | Kraps | guess |
| 13:59.28 | Lopeppeppy | No date yet. |
| 13:59.31 | Kraps | big time |
| 13:59.54 | Lopeppeppy | Did you register your account for the beta? When Bliz opens it up more generally, regular players get spots all the time, you know. |
| 14:00.49 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:00.55 | Synycyl | <-- writes skill helper so they are hitting me hard with changes but I think the changes will make it easier if they update the skills stuff in the api as well. |
| 14:00.56 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik! |
| 14:01.40 | Synycyl | I heard rumor of a proc watcher/warning built into cata ui as well but can't find verification |
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| 14:03.24 | Kraps | Synycyl: really, theres probably no point in finalizing an addon until it starts shipping to stores |
| 14:03.35 | Kraps | it being the game |
| 14:05.25 | Synycyl | Kraps I was really just making small talk... my proc watcher won't be written till after release. Skill helper has been out since the 13th and doing well so far (440+ downloads). My core rewrite (2.X) is what's probably waiting on expansion |
| 14:05.50 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.10 | Synycyl | I don't really know any of you guys... except that we are all developers/gamers |
| 14:06.26 | Synycyl | So api's and code is all I got to yak about lol |
| 14:06.40 | Kraps | we can talk about prop 8 |
| 14:07.03 | Kraps | cracks himself up |
| 14:07.45 | Synycyl | Maybe I can pick brains however cause I'm trying to figure out virtual frames as templates... and possibly recycling virtual frames from the frame.xml |
| 14:08.01 | Shirik | here I can give you some of mine I have too many |
| 14:08.09 | Synycyl | Granted I can't test code from my droid.. I can still learn lol |
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| 14:08.43 | Shirik | yes you can |
| 14:08.48 | Shirik | don't become a code monkey |
| 14:08.49 | Shirik | write unit tests |
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| 14:09.15 | Shirik | If WoW addon developers did test driven development the world would be such a better place |
| 14:09.27 | Shirik | ..... then again, if Blizzard did test driven development the world would be a better place |
| 14:09.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | someone drank the coolade |
| 14:09.32 | Lopeppeppy | If Shirik delivered me some chocolate chip cookies, the world would be heaven. |
| 14:09.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | s/co/ko/ |
| 14:09.49 | Shirik | I have cookie crisp |
| 14:09.50 | Shirik | is that good enough |
| 14:13.15 | Synycyl | Wait a minute... I do test driven coding on my addon... I'm on my phone and can't launch wow on it so can't test drive from phone lawlz.... unless you know something I don't know! |
| 14:14.37 | Kraps | real devs have 2 phones |
| 14:14.56 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, you eat that crap? *boggle* |
| 14:15.03 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:15.05 | Shirik | it was 2 for 1! |
| 14:15.25 | Synycyl | Good reason shirik! |
| 14:15.31 | Lopeppeppy | ... eeew. |
| 14:16.00 | Synycyl | Oh well back to work... talk to you guys later! |
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| 14:32.48 | Kraps | so reforging is called Thaumaturgy |
| 14:33.17 | Kraps | cool name |
| 14:33.47 | Ackis | derp |
| 14:33.54 | Ackis | wants to Thaumaturgy Kraps |
| 14:34.14 | Kraps | so's your face |
| 14:34.56 | Ackis | Shirik: I got T9.5 robes, +10 stats, spell power and spellpower/spirit gem |
| 14:35.44 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2010/08/30/breakfast-topic-are-there-atheists-in-azeroth |
| 14:37.14 | Ackis | so today is the first day of school, and already shots have been fired http://bit.ly/9oKDF9 |
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| 14:38.39 | Ackis | zomg lua_bot |
| 14:38.41 | Ackis | how I missed you |
| 14:39.48 | Kraps | where is that |
| 14:40.42 | Kraps | oh |
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| 14:59.17 | zenzelezz | http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2010/08/30/10055609.aspx |
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| 15:15.53 | Kraps | what the difference between city of heroes and champions online? |
| 15:20.30 | Shirik | Ackis, apparently he didn't shoot anyone |
| 15:20.38 | Shirik | he just pointed the gun at officers (really bad idea) |
| 15:20.59 | Ackis | yeah even in GTA you get arrested when you do thta... but first day of class? /sigh |
| 15:21.19 | Kalroth | whats the purl irc time thing again?! |
| 15:22.11 | Ackis | ~ugt |
| 15:22.11 | purl | well, ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 15:22.15 | Shirik | wtf |
| 15:22.16 | Kalroth | Thanks! |
| 15:22.19 | Shirik | french wikipedia is so fucked up |
| 15:22.24 | Shirik | http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNAA |
| 15:22.34 | Shirik | Certains trolls se sont même regroupés, comme dans la Gay Nigger Association of America2 (le nom étant tiré du film de série B danois de 1992 Gayniggers from Outer Space). |
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| 15:30.47 | Humbedooh | why would you want to visit the French Wikipedia anyway... |
| 15:31.29 | zenzelezz | delusions of grandeur |
| 15:31.32 | Humbedooh | http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escargot |
| 15:31.36 | Ackis | makes a joke about surrendering. |
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| 15:31.37 | Humbedooh | all you need to know about france |
| 15:32.29 | Wobin | http://www.fukung.net/v/28024/f553af58c7e98f1ee66a8f13c45d918d.jpg |
| 15:32.36 | Humbedooh | aaw, http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Brazilian_Snail.jpg |
| 15:32.48 | Humbedooh | a pet snail eating lettuce |
| 15:33.25 | Humbedooh | the bear would win, wobin! |
| 15:35.08 | Thunder_Child | actually, the humans would win |
| 15:35.51 | Humbedooh | not in a fist fight! |
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| 15:37.43 | Thunder_Child | bears nor tigers have fists |
| 15:37.47 | Thunder_Child | so yes they would |
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| 15:39.27 | Shirik | Kraps: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Connormah_3&diff=381894988&oldid=381890839 |
| 15:39.32 | Shirik | and with that I think I will take a break for a bit |
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| 15:44.03 | Wobin | http://www.fukung.net/v/17000/c1057e397fe2ee988619c9ef978e7c31.jpg |
| 15:44.09 | Kraps | well Shirik, tell us how you really feel |
| 15:44.57 | nicoli_s | thats pretty awesome wobin |
| 15:45.13 | Fogger | so, Beta's been crashing on startup for a few days, that normal? :D |
| 15:48.01 | Shirik | beta for? |
| 15:48.34 | kd3|netbook | wipe out ~/cata/Cache and ~/cata/Data/Cache |
| 15:48.36 | kd3|netbook | that should fix it |
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| 15:50.40 | Fogger | Just found a forum post telling me to do the exact same thing, thanks :) |
| 15:51.11 | Fogger | If I was gonna delete the data folder, you should let me :D |
| 15:51.42 | Fogger | one less mentally challenged player on the beta I spose. |
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| 15:52.04 | kd3|netbook | meh, I try to limit the actual data destruction in my advice unless I'm //really// pissed off |
| 15:53.19 | Fogger | I seriously need to remember that "Delete Cache" is probably the answer to all beta issues. |
| 15:54.00 | Ghettogreen | Have you tried turning it off and on again? |
| 15:54.40 | Ghettogreen | then are you sure it's plugged in? |
| 16:09.14 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 16:09.16 | Fisker | i just farted |
| 16:12.39 | Adys | jnwhiteh, here? |
| 16:12.42 | Adys | any mac user? |
| 16:13.32 | Fisker | lol people |
| 16:13.52 | Fisker | I'm afraid that this isn't an item that we normally refund as it does count towards the tabard achievement; I can also see that we have refunded this exact item for you before and warned you that this was an exception |
| 16:14.02 | Fisker | response |
| 16:14.04 | Fisker | "Well I can't say that I'm happy with that, this is the first time I have felt let down by a Blizzard CS response - you could help" |
| 16:14.05 | Adys | ? |
| 16:14.05 | Fisker | lololol |
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| 16:14.24 | Shirik | troololol? |
| 16:14.32 | Fisker | "Well I can't say that I'm happy with that, this is the first time I have felt let down by a Blizzard CS response - you could help, but you wont"* |
| 16:14.53 | jnwhiteh | Adys: sup |
| 16:15.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: yeah? |
| 16:15.04 | cogwheel | Failsker |
| 16:15.06 | kd3|netbook | whee. the campus emergency alert system works |
| 16:15.25 | kd3|netbook | they just evacuated one of the buildings and half of the class's cellphones go off with the alert |
| 16:15.32 | Adys | jnwhiteh, NightHawkTheSane, can any of you screenshot the launcher's option panel on mac os x? |
| 16:15.33 | Adys | live launcher |
| 16:15.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, sadly no. I'm at work right now, so not on my mac. :\ |
| 16:16.54 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.58 | Shirik | kd3|netbook: But do you have a siren? |
| 16:17.03 | Shirik | We have a siren hells yeah |
| 16:17.14 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:17.18 | Fisker | there should be a mac tax |
| 16:17.21 | Shirik | Fisker do you have a siren? |
| 16:17.22 | Fisker | think about it |
| 16:17.23 | kd3|netbook | nope |
| 16:17.36 | Shirik | embry-riddle > kd3-school |
| 16:17.43 | Fisker | If people are willing to throw money out on a mac, just think how much tax money we could make |
| 16:17.59 | Fisker | AAT on all apple hardware/software |
| 16:18.00 | Shirik | agree |
| 16:18.36 | Shirik | but we can't single out the company, it's unconstitutional |
| 16:18.37 | Shirik | so |
| 16:18.41 | foxlit | marauders, marauders everywhere |
| 16:18.41 | Fisker | you are a good person Shirik |
| 16:18.42 | jnwhiteh | Adys: all the screens? |
| 16:18.47 | Fisker | i hate you now Shirik |
| 16:18.51 | Shirik | how about "tax on all devices with scroll wheels or buttonless mice" |
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| 16:19.06 | Adys | jnwhiteh: no, just the options panel, like this: http://bugs2.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=24437 |
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| 16:19.14 | Fisker | Tax on all devices with a white/grey color |
| 16:19.36 | jnwhiteh | Adys: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/be9c50d2e4652575d304a00f10df633d.png |
| 16:20.01 | Shirik | winner of wikipedia vandalism: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Descriptive+poetry&diff=381900691&oldid=363734511 |
| 16:20.03 | Shirik | (check the dates) |
| 16:20.25 | Shirik | obviously this means nobody cares about descriptive poetry :) |
| 16:20.47 | Fisker | :) |
| 16:20.50 | Fisker | i think |
| 16:21.01 | Adys | jnwhiteh: that's the whole thing? |
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| 16:23.38 | jnwhiteh | Adys: I don't understand what you're asking |
| 16:23.41 | jnwhiteh | that's on top of the launcher window |
| 16:23.47 | Adys | ok, i see |
| 16:23.47 | Adys | thanks |
| 16:23.47 | jnwhiteh | and the first two options bring up sub-windows |
| 16:23.49 | jnwhiteh | but yes, that is it. |
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| 16:23.53 | cogwheel | station |
| 16:23.55 | Adys | cheers |
| 16:24.02 | Lunessa | station my excellent friends |
| 16:24.06 | cogwheel | heard you coming |
| 16:24.23 | Adys | ah jnwhiteh last question |
| 16:24.28 | Adys | is that panel movable? |
| 16:24.30 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 16:24.35 | cogwheel | (you're my only MSN contact and i just heard the "someone came online" noise) |
| 16:25.07 | Lunessa | Heh. I thought I was on your googletalk list. |
| 16:25.40 | cogwheel | you didn't have gtalk before... |
| 16:26.30 | Lunessa | I have it, but Adium doesn't (or didn't) have a plugin for it. |
| 16:27.34 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:29.27 | Fisker | aww cogwheel |
| 16:29.34 | Fisker | i could be on your msn if you feel ronerny |
| 16:29.36 | Fisker | ronery* |
| 16:32.04 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I'll eat my words now. Adium has gtalk support, and I already added you ... apparently some time ago. |
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| 16:36.21 | cogwheel | i don't have you on my list... can you try sending me a message? |
| 16:36.42 | Fisker | why aren't you ronery cogwheel ? |
| 16:38.28 | cogwheel | wages a levorutionaly wal on fiskel |
| 16:38.44 | jnwhiteh | Adys: nope, and it comes down directly in the middle of the top of the window. |
| 16:38.50 | Adys | kk, thanks a lot |
| 16:39.11 | jnwhiteh | yw |
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| 16:44.42 | Fisker | me jnwhiteh |
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| 16:52.24 | Kraps | gah why do i keep buying puzzle games if i suck at them? |
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| 17:03.55 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/demotivational-posters-submarine-racing.jpg |
| 17:04.05 | kd3|netbook | rofl |
| 17:04.11 | kd3|netbook | they called in the bomb squad |
| 17:04.35 | kd3|netbook | from the /third/ text-message/email I just got: |
| 17:04.38 | kd3|netbook | "Some civil war relics stored on the third floor were noticed as being a potential hazard, and as a precautionary measure, a building evacuation was ordered by the KSU Police, who in turn notified the Cobb County Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) unit and the Army EOD" |
| 17:05.11 | kd3|netbook | wonders if we've made the news yet |
| 17:05.39 | kd3|netbook | http://www.wsbtv.com/news/24812869/detail.html |
| 17:05.53 | Arrowmaster | did they blow up the civil war relics as per standard bomb squad procedure? |
| 17:06.00 | kd3|netbook | they're about to |
| 17:06.33 | kd3|netbook | still waiting for the pissed-off tenured professor saying "they were harmless! you destroyed valuable history!" |
| 17:07.46 | Kraps | how are relics hazardous? |
| 17:07.57 | kd3|netbook | dunno |
| 17:08.23 | kd3|netbook | it must be an unexploded shell or something for the police to call in the bomb squad |
| 17:11.48 | Kraps | what happens when a fail hater meets a fail artist? http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-hate-Kesha/350765438518 |
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| 17:16.37 | kd3|netbook | smirks |
| 17:16.49 | kd3|netbook | c'mon big boom |
| 17:16.55 | kd3|netbook | is eating outside, just waiting... |
| 17:18.40 | kd3|netbook | so, Shirik, did embry-riddle have to call in the bomb squad to blow up a civil war relic that is probably harmless? |
| 17:21.12 | Adys | kd3: quit netbooking and help me debug infinite loops =( |
| 17:21.29 | Lunessa | http://graphjam.com/2010/08/29/funny-graphs-hes-holding-out-for-some-good-tank-and-spank/ |
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| 17:22.12 | kd3|netbook | stop failing at your loop-ending logic |
| 17:22.15 | kd3|netbook | there |
| 17:22.27 | Adys | kd3|netbook: not me :( |
| 17:22.27 | Adys | bug 17088 |
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| 17:22.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: lulz. |
| 17:23.09 | Lunessa | kd3: I have a good story along those lines. :) |
| 17:23.20 | kd3|netbook | oh, wow. that bug's still open? |
| 17:23.41 | Adys | yes, and Im decided to close it |
| 17:23.44 | Adys | i know what the problem is now |
| 17:23.55 | Adys | it's somehow spamming WM_PAINT |
| 17:24.07 | Lunessa | Back in the 90s, during the height of the Unibomber scares, I was working at AOL. Our beta testers got to design art for their 'award' and we had it prnted on coffee mugs. |
| 17:24.08 | Adys | trying to draw something but it cant, so it just keeps trying |
| 17:24.27 | Lunessa | They were sent out from the fulfillment company in small, plain, unmarked white boxes. |
| 17:24.31 | Adys | what I dont understand is where the message comes from |
| 17:24.39 | kd3|netbook | lunessa; lmfao |
| 17:24.42 | Lunessa | One of our testers was a president at US Robotics. |
| 17:24.51 | Lunessa | His wife panicked. |
| 17:24.58 | kd3|netbook | oooh |
| 17:25.03 | Lunessa | She called the bomb squad. |
| 17:25.03 | kd3|netbook | panicking. that's fun |
| 17:25.11 | Lunessa | They exploded the coffee mug. |
| 17:25.28 | Lunessa | With like robot retrieval of the 'device' and everything |
| 17:25.33 | kd3|netbook | me too. back when I worked as a cashier at target we had the bomb squad called in to the store because the cart attendant found something "suspicious". never did figure out what it was, but they blew it up in the trash compactor |
| 17:26.02 | kd3|netbook | big boom, 6 hours off work, free dinner (that never happens at target), then we opened the store back up when they gave the all clear |
| 17:26.05 | Lunessa | When the guy e-mail asking for a new mug, I laughed so damned hard I sent him 5. |
| 17:26.11 | kd3|netbook | ahaha |
| 17:26.54 | kd3|netbook | was hilarious watching some of my male execs break down and cry like little girls. big, muscular guys too. |
| 17:27.09 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 17:27.27 | Lunessa | bomb scares are ... by definition - scary. |
| 17:27.44 | kd3|netbook | though maybe that had something to do with contacting corporate's crisis center, which usually invokes phone calls to god |
| 17:28.04 | kd3|netbook | yeah, but this was in the back end of nowhere... there was no credible threat |
| 17:28.29 | Lunessa | kd3|netbook: still pretty funny in retrospect. |
| 17:28.41 | kd3|netbook | ya |
| 17:29.33 | kd3|netbook | in current news, still no big boom or rooms full of cellphones all going off at once yet |
| 17:29.33 | Lunessa | Another time, we got an alert at the AOL call center in VA "If Mr. Thomas calls with another bomb-threat tell him RCMP is already on their way to his home. We're sick of evacuating the building every time he can't login." |
| 17:29.50 | kd3|netbook | smirks |
| 17:30.17 | kd3|netbook | don't mess with the mounties |
| 17:31.05 | Lunessa | Oh yeah. |
| 17:31.31 | Lunessa | Re: more on-topic - I still need a guild invite on beta. |
| 17:31.59 | Lunessa | Anyone going to be around at 11pm Central? |
| 17:32.25 | NightHawkTheSane | by around you mean online in beta? |
| 17:32.53 | Lunessa | Yes. |
| 17:32.57 | Kraps | i still dont have beta |
| 17:33.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Also, random question time: If the only access to exchange I have is via OWA, is there any reasonably sane way to sync calendar items to a google calendar? |
| 17:33.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: I could be, but that wouldn't help you, because I'm a) horde, b) not in the guild either ;) |
| 17:33.32 | Lunessa | define "reasonably sane" |
| 17:33.34 | Humbedooh | beta is only for cool people :( |
| 17:34.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: something that doesn't involve running a VM, booting into windows, or summoning the dark lord ballmer. |
| 17:35.23 | NightHawkTheSane | I just hate forgetting meetings because OWA sucks nuts, or I'm not at my computer. |
| 17:36.08 | Adys | Wow ffs |
| 17:36.18 | Adys | kd3: this guy was all "RIP ati" on me |
| 17:36.26 | Adys | got me excited for nothing :( |
| 17:36.27 | Adys | http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/19547 |
| 17:36.54 | kd3|netbook | yah, I saw, then was sad because they're only changing the name |
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| 17:37.35 | Kraps | no need to wish people losing their jobs |
| 17:37.48 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Um, everything looks like... booting into Windows and running a desktop app. |
| 17:38.16 | Adys | Kraps: i heard nvidia is hiring |
| 17:38.23 | Kraps | sweet |
| 17:38.27 | Adys | although most ati devs are so incompetent i doubt anyone would want them |
| 17:38.57 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: http://m.google.com/sync |
| 17:39.06 | NightHawkTheSane | bleh |
| 17:39.15 | NightHawkTheSane | I may have to suck it up and run XP in a VM then. |
| 17:39.43 | NightHawkTheSane | I wish they'd let us have access to exchange outside the firewall, but I understand why they dont. |
| 17:39.48 | kd3|netbook | whee, all clear. too bad there wasn't a big boom |
| 17:40.15 | Kraps | Adys: whats the history behind atis "retard" label? |
| 17:40.41 | Adys | Kraps: they make shitty drivers, there's no story behind it, it's the truth |
| 17:43.26 | Cide | funny how google sync doesn't list android? |
| 17:43.48 | Cide | maybe it's implied but still |
| 17:44.55 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: They don't offer VPN? |
| 17:45.47 | Lunessa | Cide: I hadn't noticed that until you pointed it out. |
| 17:46.31 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Also see - http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:53.12 | Kraps | 305,732,612 views |
| 17:56.38 | foxlit | eh, we lose a wednesday |
| 17:57.32 | foxlit | silly 24 hour maintenance. |
| 17:59.38 | kd3|netbook | meh. most of the us realms had to do that in the past few weeks |
| 17:59.46 | kd3|netbook | ...like moving my realm from dallas to chicago |
| 17:59.54 | kd3|netbook | >.> |
| 18:00.14 | nevcairiel | btw kd3, what makes you so sure that your UI extract is so complete, and mine isnt? :p |
| 18:01.08 | kd3|netbook | I'm not. I thought I made it clear I wasn't sure about mine either ;) that could've been worded better, tbqh |
| 18:01.24 | kd3|netbook | pokes the blizz tools guys again |
| 18:01.30 | nevcairiel | from a pure line count, they look the same |
| 18:01.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: there IS a vpn, but it uses 2-factor authentication with an rsa token. Not exactly useful for push notifications to a phone ;P |
| 18:01.51 | nevcairiel | can't directly compare them due to me having git diffs which add one extra line for every file |
| 18:02.16 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: If you're using OWA and have access to ActiveSync on your phone... problem solved. |
| 18:02.34 | NightHawkTheSane | it's an iphone.. |
| 18:02.45 | kd3|netbook | iphones? in the enterprise? |
| 18:02.47 | kd3|netbook | horror! |
| 18:03.03 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: iPhones support Active Sync - Exchange account type. |
| 18:03.07 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm... |
| 18:03.31 | Lunessa | Just use the OWA server address for the e-mail server. |
| 18:03.37 | NightHawkTheSane | OWA is behind the firewall, though :P |
| 18:04.11 | Lunessa | access via https? |
| 18:04.39 | NightHawkTheSane | its https by default, but still not without connecting to the vpn first |
| 18:04.57 | Lunessa | Wow. That's... paranoid. |
| 18:05.10 | NightHawkTheSane | a little bit. But I'm not the IT department, so. |
| 18:05.35 | nevcairiel | hey, at my work you can only access the VPN with a company laptop, or a special company phone for mobile outlook syncing |
| 18:05.52 | nevcairiel | no chance getting it on your laptop or your phone |
| 18:06.09 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 18:06.14 | Fisker | enjoy paying more for xbox live? |
| 18:06.14 | Fisker | bam |
| 18:06.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, they have compnay phones that have access, I don't get one :P |
| 18:09.09 | nevcairiel | at least i got a company laptop now :p |
| 18:11.11 | Lunessa | I got a company blackberry - I don't use it. I prefer to just check my work mail on my iPhone and only carry one device. |
| 18:12.36 | Fisker | Ackis Ackis Ackis Ackis |
| 18:12.44 | Fisker | sucks your iphone can't take 2 sims then |
| 18:12.44 | Fisker | BAM |
| 18:13.09 | Kraps | so's you mom |
| 18:13.23 | Fisker | huh? |
| 18:13.34 | Kraps | you mom |
| 18:13.36 | Kraps | you |
| 18:13.39 | Kraps | mom |
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| 18:18.21 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:20.48 | Kraps | http://www.starwarsuncut.com/ |
| 18:21.41 | nicoli_s | Lunessa:send me your blackberry ill use it |
| 18:22.15 | Lunessa | nah |
| 18:26.37 | nicoli_s | for anyone who has chrome, check out http://www.chromeexperiments.com/arcadefire/ |
| 18:26.41 | nicoli_s | really really cool |
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| 18:32.57 | cogwheel | If you resemble a phone that takes sim cards, you are sim phone-y |
| 18:33.08 | cogwheel | slaps himself for that one |
| 18:34.57 | Dagmar | Send that sucker in to the Bazooka Gum company |
| 18:35.39 | cogwheel | they make gum not suckers! |
| 18:35.41 | cogwheel | ducks |
| 18:36.48 | cogwheel | http://thefuckingweather.com/?zipcode=95472 |
| 18:36.57 | cogwheel | ITS FUCKING SEXY TIME |
| 18:37.40 | Dagmar | OH OH OH! |
| 18:37.47 | Dagmar | TAKE *THAT* ATI FANBOYS |
| 18:38.00 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:38.02 | cogwheel | ati has fanboys? |
| 18:38.04 | Dagmar | AMD is retiring the ATI brand |
| 18:38.14 | Kraps | nicoli_s: WOW |
| 18:38.15 | Dagmar | cogwheel: I blame mercury in the water, personally. |
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| 18:38.25 | Fisker | what brand? |
| 18:38.27 | Zhinjio | I blame their shitty fucking drivers. |
| 18:38.45 | Zhinjio | and I think in honor of that site, cogwheel, we all need to use more "fucking" |
| 18:38.50 | Dagmar | No, that would be masochism, which may well be responsible for the existance of ATI fanboys |
| 18:38.53 | Zhinjio | or we could all use more fucking, one or the other |
| 18:39.00 | cogwheel | =) |
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| 18:40.03 | Kraps | ITS FUCKING HOT |
| 18:40.08 | Dagmar | I still blame brain damage caused by metals in the water supply |
| 18:40.58 | nicoli_s | kraps:pretty cool huh |
| 18:41.13 | Kraps | yeah that is |
| 18:41.14 | nicoli_s | i fucking love the part where you get to draw the post card and the birds come roost on it |
| 18:41.35 | nicoli_s | good song too |
| 18:41.54 | Zhinjio | if you have not yet, y'all should go visit wrongcards.com |
| 18:42.19 | Zhinjio | when you care to e-send the very best |
| 18:44.00 | Fisker | http://www.cieletespace.fr/node/5752 <-omg sauron |
| 18:45.40 | nicoli_s | i was thinking its the sun's asshole |
| 18:47.35 | nicoli_s | am i the only one? |
| 18:50.36 | kd3|netbook | sigh. it's 2:45... they're just now sending out the message that the 2:00 classes in the evacuated building will be taking place |
| 18:56.46 | Kraps | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.229154-Blizzard-Up-For-a-StarCraft-Movie-With-James-Cameron |
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| 19:01.57 | foxlit | Desert Oasis: "Adding destructible rocks to make the natural expansions easier to protect" |
| 19:02.03 | foxlit | Isn't there already a choke there? |
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| 19:09.27 | Kraps | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/b762ebbd-d317-41e0-be2e-788b101924bb.jpg |
| 19:10.16 | foxlit | "In addition, beyond this initial free name change, weâll be launching a service similar to the one we offer for World of Warcraft which will allow additional character name changes for a fee." |
| 19:10.20 | foxlit | Totally predictable |
| 19:10.45 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 19:10.54 | batrick | link? |
| 19:10.58 | foxlit | If they're clever, the free name change will be on sign on |
| 19:11.12 | foxlit | "Do you want to change your name now? No? That'd be 9.99 in the future" |
| 19:11.32 | foxlit | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/572264 |
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| 19:12.11 | batrick | oh man |
| 19:12.15 | batrick | the first comment was great |
| 19:13.22 | nicoli_s | i love how his name isnt censored out but all the references to him do |
| 19:15.37 | batrick | what's the deal with character codes? |
| 19:15.42 | batrick | is that so two people can have the same name? |
| 19:15.53 | foxlit | yes. |
| 19:15.58 | cbreak | yes, and so you can not add players just by name |
| 19:16.05 | cbreak | (onto the friends list) |
| 19:16.14 | batrick | well then how do you friend someone you just played? |
| 19:16.22 | foxlit | recent matches |
| 19:16.28 | foxlit | right click them, add friend. |
| 19:16.58 | batrick | thanks |
| 19:17.18 | cbreak | friendship is not reciprocal. |
| 19:17.30 | batrick | that's right, it's associative |
| 19:18.27 | foxlit | not symmetric? |
| 19:20.23 | Kraps | geriatric? |
| 19:21.13 | Ackis | Shadowed: add this code to elitistarmory: if character == ackis then queueposition = 1 end :P |
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| 19:23.49 | Ackis | wow I was at #2 then got put at 41 |
| 19:23.56 | olafski | those bastards |
| 19:24.10 | Kraps | http://www.onlineuniversity.org/a-guide-to-internet-memes |
| 19:34.16 | cbreak | interesting. |
| 19:35.32 | nicoli_s | i like it |
| 19:43.00 | Ackis | anyplace I can go to which will scan my toon, and suggest upgrades for it, that I can filter by 5/10/25? |
| 19:43.35 | Zhinjio | funny you should ask that. |
| 19:44.33 | Ackis | oh? |
| 19:45.41 | nicoli_s | Ackis:when did you get back into wow? |
| 19:45.59 | Ackis | couple weeks ago, I got a couple free months to dick around with |
| 19:46.05 | nicoli_s | nice |
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| 19:47.14 | nicoli_s | im still trying to decide if i want to resub when cata comes out |
| 19:47.26 | Ackis | I'm loving the dungeon finder |
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| 19:49.29 | nicoli_s | yeah, though it did make me get tired of the deadmines extra fast that way :P |
| 19:50.23 | Ackis | during the past two weeks while being sick, I was dual boxing with my fiancee's account, and playing the xbox at the same time... I felt nerdy |
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| 19:50.46 | nicoli_s | oh yeah that reminds me, i got an xbox finally! |
| 19:50.55 | nicoli_s | my signin name is sankle add me |
| 19:51.39 | NightHawkTheSane | the problem with re-arranging my desk is that i forget where i put things |
| 19:51.42 | Ackis | okies :D |
| 19:52.01 | nicoli_s | im getting the new halo when it comes out, we'll have to play some |
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| 19:52.54 | Ackis | sure, I'll be terrible |
| 19:54.05 | nicoli_s | well i havent played in like years myself |
| 19:56.50 | olafski | good decision nicoli_s ;) |
| 19:57.34 | nicoli_s | this is my 4th 360 |
| 19:57.39 | olafski | oO |
| 19:57.43 | Ackis | I'm looking forward to trying Kinect this week |
| 19:57.54 | olafski | it comes out this week? :O |
| 19:57.57 | olafski | must get |
| 19:58.10 | Ackis | beta |
| 19:58.29 | olafski | oh |
| 19:58.33 | nicoli_s | im not impressed so far |
| 19:58.41 | nicoli_s | especially with all the shit talking they do about the wii |
| 19:58.58 | foxlit | Blizzard clearly needs to buff Random |
| 19:59.04 | olafski | you're going to beta it ackis? |
| 19:59.26 | foxlit | only 6 / 200, atrocious representation. </rage> |
| 19:59.34 | Lunessa | Ackis: If you're only now feeling nerdy, I suggest you change your meds. |
| 20:00.08 | Zhinjio | I consider feeling nerdy my vocation |
| 20:00.11 | olafski | 930/1000 dante's inferno ackis :D |
| 20:00.18 | Ackis | yeah olafski |
| 20:00.22 | olafski | oh cool |
| 20:00.22 | Ackis | I'm working on Halo Wars right now |
| 20:00.24 | olafski | how'd you get into that? |
| 20:00.28 | Ackis | just did the campaign on normal |
| 20:00.38 | olafski | is it any good? I was considering getting that one |
| 20:00.42 | Ackis | https://connect.microsoft.com/XboxLIVEUpdate |
| 20:00.43 | olafski | still haven't put ODST in though |
| 20:00.46 | nicoli_s | i lived halo wars |
| 20:00.48 | nicoli_s | liked*( |
| 20:00.48 | Ackis | it's an RTS on the Xbox... not very good |
| 20:00.53 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:01.00 | nicoli_s | it could have used alot more features though |
| 20:01.06 | Ackis | yeah |
| 20:01.11 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 20:01.16 | Fisker | enjoy paying more for xbox live |
| 20:01.20 | Lunessa | Wts: English lessons: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=6757867106&sid=1&pageNo=11#215 |
| 20:02.06 | nicoli_s | the only worthwhile part of ODST is their version of horde mode from gears fo war |
| 20:02.22 | Ackis | I haven't tried ODST yet myself |
| 20:02.29 | olafski | I'll likely just play the story and drop it :) |
| 20:02.51 | nicoli_s | the SP sucks |
| 20:03.01 | nicoli_s | its so damn slow and like no new weapons and only one new enemy |
| 20:03.45 | olafski | well I did halo 3 about 4 times so I doubt I'll care much about whether it's new ;) one more time won't hurt |
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| 20:04.40 | nicoli_s | im really looking forward to reach though |
| 20:05.25 | olafski | haven't really followed it.. looks like more of the same to me so I'll get that when it goes bargain just like I did with h3 and odst :) |
| 20:05.44 | olafski | kinect sounds fun though.. I think my gf will like it |
| 20:05.58 | nicoli_s | ive heard really conflicting things about it |
| 20:06.07 | olafski | aye same |
| 20:06.07 | nicoli_s | like some people saying it doesnt work at all in some situations |
| 20:06.36 | Ackis | PS Move == Wii |
| 20:06.42 | Ackis | Kinect == new experience never been tried |
| 20:07.12 | olafski | you got it ackis |
| 20:07.15 | nicoli_s | Ackis:except for the playstation camera that did the exact same thing |
| 20:07.39 | olafski | I had a pc camera that did the same thing years before the playstation did it :< |
| 20:08.31 | Ackis | the kinect is trying to me a media centre |
| 20:08.34 | Ackis | not just gaming |
| 20:08.43 | Ackis | I don't know what the PS camera did |
| 20:08.44 | nicoli_s | except it wont launch with half the things they said it would |
| 20:08.57 | nicoli_s | like they already had to cut sign language, and voice recognition from it |
| 20:09.14 | olafski | didn't they say a few days ago that voice recognition would be in? |
| 20:09.48 | nicoli_s | i thought they said that it wouldnt, though i could have misread it |
| 20:09.49 | Ackis | voice recognition is in |
| 20:10.00 | Ackis | "When I yell at my xbox usually nothing happens, now stuff happens" |
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| 20:30.25 | Lunessa | The mind boggles: http://www.renderdragon.com/iwintergrasp/ |
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| 20:32.36 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: ... |
| 20:32.42 | Dagmar | "Now my boyfriend knows when to play WoW and when to have sex with me!--Tiffany Lei, Director at Sephora.com |
| 20:32.46 | Dagmar | Not bloody likely |
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| 20:34.54 | Lunessa | holy crap. It's really in the app store. |
| 20:35.05 | Lunessa | I thought for SURE it was a joke. |
| 20:35.36 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:35.45 | nicoli_s | i love how its made with every gamer in mind\ |
| 20:35.50 | nicoli_s | even the ones that dont play wow |
| 20:36.58 | Lunessa | based on where/how they get their data though... it is a joke. |
| 20:40.10 | nicoli_s | they sure spent alot of time on the website |
| 20:42.25 | Fisker | HEY Ackis |
| 20:42.30 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 20:42.31 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 20:42.32 | Fisker | Ackis |
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| 20:47.45 | Fisker | Ackis |
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| 20:57.47 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 20:57.48 | Fisker | i'm sick |
| 20:58.00 | Fisker | i just need to ask you one thing before i pass away |
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| 21:00.26 | Fisker | good night sweet kd3|netbook |
| 21:01.07 | kd3|netbook | whee... hurricane season is here |
| 21:01.36 | kd3|netbook | the d-storm is off to the north atlantic, earl's a few days from whacking into the eastern seaboard and the f-storm just got named |
| 21:10.29 | Lunessa | kd3: I'm getting some nice rain and a break in the heat thanks to those systems. |
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| 21:24.59 | A-KO | man that latest cover of Rolling Stone is a doozy |
| 21:35.00 | ckknight | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3woEDTUbDYg |
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| 21:52.27 | cogwheel | map hacking fail... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBOrDptVtak |
| 21:59.16 | NightHawkTheSane | really has no idea what to look for in that >.> |
| 21:59.52 | cogwheel | the guy commentating makes it clearer later on. Basically he keeps looking at areas that he shouldn't be able to see |
| 21:59.56 | cogwheel | and reacting as if he can |
| 22:00.08 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, i guess i should unmute my system. |
| 22:10.54 | cbreak | cogwheel: unfortunately, naming a player is meaningless at the moment without also mentioning the region. |
| 22:11.04 | cbreak | I wonder if blizz will ban cheaters |
| 22:11.07 | cbreak | or if they don't mind them |
| 22:11.15 | cogwheel | he's american. i'm sure he assumes everyone else will assume US |
| 22:11.16 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 22:18.58 | alestane | Quick question: I'm supposed to submit a bunch of student portfolio pieces as AVI files...I have MOVs and transcoding them is easy enough, but is there a particular codec people would recommend for maximum interoperability? (i.e., probably not DivX or XVid as they need to be installed) |
| 22:21.48 | Arrowmaster | if you are using avi then divx/xvid are your only real choices |
| 22:23.04 | alestane | Except that, again, they're both third-party. |
| 22:23.30 | cbreak | I use mjpeg inside avi for maximal compatibility |
| 22:23.31 | Arrowmaster | there is no real first party codec for avi |
| 22:23.36 | cbreak | that format is so braindeadly ancient.... |
| 22:23.50 | cbreak | and quicktime seems to play it too |
| 22:24.00 | cbreak | but really: mp4 with h.264 is much better |
| 22:25.54 | alestane | Oh, okay; just double-checked the instructions I was given and .nov is fine. |
| 22:25.57 | alestane | .mov* |
| 22:26.01 | alestane | Good, done then. |
| 22:26.57 | Arrowmaster | so encode with x264 and put in .mov |
| 22:26.58 | cbreak | mov's also just a container |
| 22:27.11 | cbreak | you can use the quicktime h.264 encoder |
| 22:27.19 | cbreak | if you don't mind getting inferior quality |
| 22:27.23 | Arrowmaster | except it sucks |
| 22:27.30 | alestane | Which is what I have, yes, h.264 .mov files. |
| 22:27.39 | cbreak | yeah, but saves from compiling x264 :) |
| 22:48.40 | Lunessa | It will be mine, oh yes, it will be... http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/26/commodore-usa-announces-the-pc64-an-atom-powered-pc-in-a-replic/ |
| 22:49.43 | cbreak | crazy case modders... couldn't they use a better one, like an amiga? |
| 22:50.03 | Lunessa | It's the nostalgia streak in me. |
| 22:54.33 | industrial | While results vary across studies, the consensus is that the mean human penis is approximately 12.9.15 cm |
| 22:54.37 | industrial | Studies have not found a relation between penis size and race. |
| 22:54.39 | industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.06 | industrial | take that negros, wikipedia validates my macho-ism (machism?) |
| 22:55.19 | nicoli_s | not sure if thats the most PC term around industrial |
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| 22:55.48 | industrial | as if I mean it to offend anyone |
| 22:55.54 | nicoli_s | you did! |
| 22:56.06 | industrial | not for where their parents come from |
| 22:56.06 | nicoli_s | i can read between the lines and i read HATE! |
| 22:56.10 | industrial | for debunking a myht |
| 22:56.16 | Kraps | industrial: feeling a little underwhelmed are you? |
| 22:57.14 | industrial | meh, I think some people need to stop feeling superior (YES YOU HEARD ME) for years and years to come (probably) demanding another group of people specifically of colour (counter-racism anyone?) to say a fucking word. |
| 22:58.10 | industrial | if you are fine with black folk I'll say that. I don't care what you want it to be I'm just pointing out a group of people in a myth. |
| 22:58.37 | nicoli_s | i find the word folk racist too, take it back! |
| 22:58.51 | industrial | ill take your sister back |
| 22:58.54 | industrial | mmkay |
| 22:59.04 | industrial | (to my place) |
| 22:59.31 | industrial | seriously, not in a good mood. im going to bed >:| |
| 23:01.00 | industrial | The English word Folk ("peoples") is derived from a Germanic noun *fulka meaning "people" or "army" |
| 23:01.04 | industrial | also on wikipedia |
| 23:01.16 | industrial | screw yew :D |
| 23:01.26 | nicoli_s | heh sorry i just couldnt help myself |
| 23:01.33 | nicoli_s | i have a black gf it gives me the right |
| 23:02.13 | industrial | and I've been living all 23 years of my life in the ghetto in amsterdam, my best friends are coloured. big. whoop. |
| 23:02.23 | Mr_Rabies | hey guys, there used to be an addon that checked to see if you had all of your spells and their highest ranks on your action bars, is that still around? |
| 23:02.48 | nicoli_s | ummmm...i dont think yer supposed to say coloured either :P |
| 23:02.53 | nicoli_s | and its colored learn american! |
| 23:02.54 | alestane | gets Lunessa some coffee. |
| 23:02.59 | industrial | I'm european |
| 23:03.03 | nicoli_s | and? |
| 23:03.05 | Lunessa | thanks alestane |
| 23:03.09 | industrial | so I'll go with british :D |
| 23:03.14 | industrial | I say! |
| 23:03.27 | nicoli_s | hehe |
| 23:03.28 | Lunessa | Mr_Rabies: RankWatch. |
| 23:03.48 | nicoli_s | i love that they are ditching the whole ranked spell thing with cata |
| 23:04.24 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: And leveling weapon skills. |
| 23:04.31 | Xyphoid | yeah, given the buggy auto-replace of spells on your bars |
| 23:04.31 | nicoli_s | oh they got rid of that too? |
| 23:04.37 | cogwheel | YES |
| 23:04.39 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 23:04.45 | cogwheel | not sry caps |
| 23:04.52 | nicoli_s | i remember when i was working on an emu trying to find the right formula for how those levelled up |
| 23:04.54 | industrial | is fine it |
| 23:04.55 | nicoli_s | was a pain in the ass |
| 23:05.25 | industrial | remember l1 earth shock |
| 23:06.09 | Xyphoid | you can excuse people for having lower-ranked spells in groups when their spec 1 bars got updated automatically and spec 2 didn't |
| 23:08.44 | Mr_Rabies | thanks Lunessa |
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| 23:12.49 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5625758/playing-world-of-warcraft-in-starcraft-ii |
| 23:13.20 | Kraps | how the hell... |
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| 23:14.08 | ckknight | Kraps: the map editor is powerful |
| 23:14.44 | Xyphoid | have people actually been doing single-player stuff with the editor |
| 23:14.52 | Xyphoid | i really liked all the rpg campaigns people did with wc3 |
| 23:14.56 | Dagmar | Sometimes people just plain forget to go see the trainer for long periods of time |
| 23:15.20 | Dagmar | Someone's addon carped at me about that when I was working on my second piece of T9. |
| 23:15.25 | cogwheel | the lost viking arcade game was done using the map editor wasn't it? |
| 23:15.27 | Dagmar | LAst time I saw a trainer was 77. |
| 23:15.29 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 23:15.36 | Dagmar | whoopies |
| 23:15.58 | alestane | Same way they do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vjuf7DELz9s , Fraps |
| 23:16.01 | alestane | Kraps* |
| 23:16.28 | ckknight | hey all, if people could take a look at this library I made, give feedback and the like, I'd appreciate it: http://www.wowace.com/addons/liblinq-1-0/ |
| 23:17.21 | Kraps | well butter my biscuit |
| 23:17.57 | ckknight | SCV good to go |
| 23:17.59 | Kraps | alestane: but the wow mod changes it much more |
| 23:19.14 | cogwheel | only camera angles and ui (or lack thereof) |
| 23:20.54 | Kraps | and the map and chars? |
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| 23:21.28 | cogwheel | that's not really a change... it's just a different set of models |
| 23:21.59 | cogwheel | they were showing off this kind of thing at blizzcon 08 :P |
| 23:22.19 | cogwheel | or was it 09 |
| 23:22.27 | kd3|netbook | 09 |
| 23:22.41 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4 |
| 23:27.35 | Kraps | lol lost viking |
| 23:27.44 | cogwheel | that's in the game |
| 23:28.20 | Kraps | yeah |
| 23:30.00 | Kraps | why do you have to authenticate to use the editor :/ |
| 23:30.10 | Kraps | map editor |
| 23:30.16 | kd3|netbook | so... updates to the bomb scare at ksu saga. |
| 23:30.41 | kd3|netbook | turns out it was some cannonballs that have been stored in a card-key only room for 3 years now. a new staff member saw them and flipped the hell out |
| 23:31.00 | kd3|netbook | they went kaboom, thanks to the cobb county explosives ordinance disposal squad |
| 23:31.12 | kd3|netbook | yawns |
| 23:34.03 | Humbedooh | :< |
| 23:36.55 | kd3|netbook | still waiting on the angry indignant professor yelling at the new staff member about flipping the hell out over /cannonballs/ |
| 23:38.57 | Humbedooh | like....solid iron balls? |
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| 23:40.57 | kd3|netbook | I suspect so. it was the freaking civil war. I don't think incendiary shot really worked back then |
| 23:41.45 | Humbedooh | meh, I now officially have no friggin clue how my code works... |
| 23:42.15 | alestane | Never a good sign. |
| 23:42.15 | kd3|netbook | anyway, off to class in the evacuated building. I suspect my professor will be a hoot today. >.> |
| 23:42.21 | Humbedooh | idd :p |
| 23:42.56 | Humbedooh | pfeh, I s'pose I should just rewrite the lot |
| 23:47.16 | Humbedooh | oh...that's how |
| 23:52.01 | alestane | How much sense does it seriously make to teach people to write http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140204 just so that you can then teach them why it's so much better to write http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140205 ? |
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| 23:55.03 | Lunessa | alestane: It's always better to teach the nuts and bolts without syntactic sugar or short cuts first. |
| 23:55.23 | alestane | I understand that concept. |
| 23:55.42 | Lunessa | That said, I much prefer to read example number 2. |
| 23:55.47 | Humbedooh | seems a bit like a waste of time |
| 23:55.57 | alestane | But teaching people how to return values by global or reference parameters,because functions are too advanced? |
| 23:56.26 | Humbedooh | example 1 makes my eyes bleed ;\ |
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| 23:59.13 | alestane | I am reminded of my Japanese courses...rather than start you off by dumping a pile of individual vocabulary words on you, they always opened a section with drills on complete exchanges composed of people speaking in complete sentences. |
| 23:59.15 | Humbedooh | hm, if I want a horizontal scrollbar, I'd have to make one myself, right? (no, I do not want the slider template :p) |
| 23:59.34 | alestane | Now, in the beginning, most of those exchanges were a call and response of two one-word sentences. |
| 23:59.51 | alestane | Since the students had no concept of grammar yet. |
