| 00:00.02 | NightHawkTheSane | also, yeah, it's a freaking handful of pixels, i'm all for sensetivity, but for fucks sake |
| 00:00.26 | A-KO | word of advice |
| 00:00.30 | A-KO | people should keep their mouths shut |
| 00:00.44 | Thunder_Child | i wish |
| 00:00.49 | Thunder_Child | never going to happen though |
| 00:00.53 | Kraps | lulz |
| 00:00.57 | A-KO | nobody has any right to ask other people to be sensitive of an issue :P |
| 00:01.13 | A-KO | screw 'em |
| 00:01.31 | A-KO | ultimately, if you don't like the behavior in a video game, alt + f4, appwiz.cpl, and remove it. |
| 00:01.33 | A-KO | go about your life |
| 00:01.34 | A-KO | :P |
| 00:02.55 | A-KO | in other news |
| 00:03.00 | A-KO | I really wish more games took advantage of DX11 |
| 00:03.04 | A-KO | tesselation is pretty bad ass |
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| 00:03.48 | Thunder_Child | wow does, though i didnt notice a diff when i ran it that way |
| 00:04.02 | A-KO | well, wow can use the rendering paths, but doesn't actually really use the features |
| 00:04.17 | Thunder_Child | we are talking about the beta? |
| 00:04.18 | A-KO | http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1164/uniginenotesselation.png |
| 00:04.21 | A-KO | http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8783/uniginetesselation.png |
| 00:04.22 | A-KO | yes |
| 00:04.26 | A-KO | WoW doesn't use it like that :P |
| 00:05.02 | Kraps | wait what |
| 00:05.10 | Kandoko | Is the beta server having issues? Or is my client borked? Can't get any character to load |
| 00:06.23 | Thunder_Child | might be the last patch |
| 00:06.28 | Thunder_Child | seems to be messing everything up |
| 00:07.13 | A-KO | yeah, the latest patch causes me to crash |
| 00:08.12 | Jerub | okay, well, there's a few opinions there. |
| 00:08.27 | Jerub | but the lock immediately said, "what the fuck, it's just a cat, why are you upset it's dead" |
| 00:09.27 | A-KO | so he's an asshole :P and like any "group", if people don't like it, the ycan remove him. |
| 00:09.30 | Cidan | Jerub: Eh, I likely would have done the same thing, :( |
| 00:09.37 | A-KO | doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to say it |
| 00:10.44 | Kandoko | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:11.23 | A-KO | my gtx460 is win |
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| 00:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: what |
| 00:39.50 | Arrowmaster | bah i upgraded my nvidia drivers and now i need to reboot or atleast exit X and load the new one but i dont want to |
| 00:39.58 | Arrowmaster | ill just downgrade them |
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| 00:57.08 | Cide | fix your shit Tuller |
| 00:57.39 | Tuller | well, is more a question of what's broken |
| 00:58.52 | Cide | not to me! |
| 01:02.01 | Thunder_Child | i want http://www.cinemassivedisplays.com/Quad_Gemini_24TW.php |
| 01:02.14 | Thunder_Child | but not for six and a half K $ |
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| 01:06.38 | Cide | who needs virtual desktops when you can have 8 monitors |
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| 01:08.35 | Thunder_Child | virtual desktops dont work for me because i like to see everything in an instant |
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| 01:17.46 | laeg | if there's no mage available for your 5 man to dps, what class would you choose next? group already has a druid and pala on dps and warrior tank with priest healing |
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| 01:18.34 | Thunder_Child | doesnt really matter |
| 01:18.47 | Thunder_Child | lock/hunter/shammy/ can all blow things up |
| 01:24.11 | Shirik | what BS is this |
| 01:24.14 | Shirik | (17:43:06) (Cide) ping? |
| 01:24.15 | Shirik | (18:23:42)  -⺠Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 01:24.15 | Shirik | (18:23:44) (Shirik) pong |
| 01:24.15 | Shirik | (18:23:44)  -⺠No such nick/channel (Cide) |
| 01:24.55 | Jerub | laeg: anything at all. |
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| 01:30.50 | Shirik | ok this is badass |
| 01:30.54 | Shirik | "ground forces are now beginning to use a new "wearable" handheld radio that can present video downlink from a UAV either on an attached monocle or on a laptop." |
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| 01:33.26 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: soon all video comms will go through the monocle and all electronic guts will be stored in the armored top hat |
| 01:34.06 | Shadowed | I would join the armory if I got to wore a high tech monocle |
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| 01:40.44 | Arrowmaster | i dont think its really a monocle |
| 01:41.06 | Arrowmaster | but just one of those helmet mounted viewers that pops down and covers one eye |
| 01:44.31 | Thunder_Child | i dunno, a monocle with a holographic imager and the 'chain' is the connection might be plausable |
| 01:46.03 | Arrowmaster | now we all know the us military is always 10 years ahead in tech but i doubt they are giving ground troups see through displays |
| 01:47.14 | Arrowmaster | im going to laugh my ass off btw when a new commercial plane is created that goes faster than the SR71 and they take one out of storage and set a new 'official' record |
| 01:48.48 | Shirik | Arrowmaster, just think of how awesome a monocole would be though |
| 01:49.02 | Arrowmaster | would suck for me, i wear glasses |
| 01:49.17 | Shirik | then you can use two monocles |
| 01:49.40 | Arrowmaster | and the display would be in OMG 3D! right? |
| 01:49.48 | Shirik | omg yes |
| 01:49.49 | Shirik | patent now |
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| 02:00.49 | bluspacecow | ~ping kd3 |
| 02:00.50 | purl | pong kd3 |
| 02:02.09 | bluspacecow | *glares at wowwiki page* |
| 02:02.11 | bluspacecow | why it be white ? |
| 02:02.17 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.11 | Motig | that happens to me too all the time! |
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| 02:08.38 | Motig | however it usually gets the right colors within a second :p |
| 02:09.52 | bluspacecow | "bluspacecow: Yeah someone hosed the theme." |
| 02:10.02 | bluspacecow | that was from shefki in #wowace |
| 02:10.14 | Kraps | hello azeroth. look at these sexy effects. i'm on a horse. http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/august/spelloverlayeffects.jpg |
| 02:11.07 | bluspacecow | shut up azeroth get on my horse |
| 02:11.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Kraps: har |
| 02:11.50 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560508634&sid=1 |
| 02:12.10 | bluspacecow | yet another "my system is perfect so it must be a hack at blizzards end" post |
| 02:13.09 | Corrodias | everything's very secure oh yeah and i use the same password for everything but it's your fault |
| 02:14.07 | bluspacecow | havent used the account in a year and suddenly its activated ... clearly a hack at blizzards end /sarcasm |
| 02:14.40 | Kraps | "a massive security breach has obviously occurred at Blizzard" |
| 02:14.44 | Kraps | obviously |
| 02:15.01 | bluspacecow | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.10 | Corrodias | that's how it went for me, although they used a free expansion trial. i was pretty dumb to be using the same password for other things. i don't any more, though i still don't care about the WoW account. |
| 02:15.23 | Arrowmaster | "Not sure if it's been mentioned, but if Blizzard's security had been breached, they'd be obligated BY LAW to disclose that information to the public, since there are 13 million+ subscriptions at stake. Also, it wouldn't be random accounts targeted here and there, there would be literally thousands and thousands and thousands of hacked accounts all at once. " |
| 02:15.29 | Corrodias | maybe i should sell it, amirite? :D |
| 02:15.33 | Arrowmaster | lol another person that doesnt understand country borders |
| 02:16.12 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 02:16.45 | Arrowmaster | half of those subscribers arent even blizzard customers, they pay the chinese company that runs the servers right? |
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| 02:22.19 | bluspacecow | not sure arow |
| 02:22.21 | bluspacecow | "Please, I'm a 45+ year old security engineer by trade and this was clearly a breach in Blizzard's system" |
| 02:22.38 | bluspacecow | clearly a 45 year old security engineer with 3 days training >_> |
| 02:23.10 | Arrowmaster | yeah age is less important than length of career |
| 02:23.40 | Shirik | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/8130aa18-c097-4133-95af-13b912f5cd29.jpg |
| 02:24.06 | bluspacecow | thats also assuming he takes in what hes learned ... for all we know he could of sat and failed the end exam and done the same course multiple times |
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| 02:35.09 | Kraps | "NCsoft sued for making Lineage II too darned addicting" |
| 02:35.22 | Kraps | http://www.massively.com/2010/08/20/ncsoft-sued-for-making-lineage-ii-too-darned-addicting/ |
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| 02:35.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I saw the worst thing ever today at work |
| 02:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | An access database with two tables and a view |
| 02:35.49 | ScytheBlade1 | The tables are actually sharepoint lists |
| 02:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | And the view is an inner join on them |
| 02:35.57 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 02:39.52 | Motig | did you have to work with it? |
| 02:40.01 | Kraps | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/a956e020-a0f1-496b-9424-8568e0c4189e.jpg |
| 02:40.31 | Motig | that's no fail, that's a win |
| 02:40.56 | bluspacecow | guess he gyrates when its connected to |
| 02:42.39 | Motig | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/1d3e53ca-4646-446f-8b39-4a44d4f87062.jpg |
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| 02:50.55 | Wobin | Kraps: those overlays are very, uh, powerauray =) |
| 02:53.17 | Jamash | so, no more volley, huh |
| 02:53.59 | Xyphoid | yay |
| 02:55.25 | Wobin | meh |
| 02:55.38 | Wobin | Explosive trap + volley used to be awesome =) |
| 02:55.42 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:55.46 | Shirik | did you see my messages yesterday? |
| 02:56.31 | bluspacecow | begs the question tho |
| 02:56.41 | bluspacecow | whats it look like for a gun toting hunter ? |
| 03:01.03 | Kraps | http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/67fcc669-29fd-4962-b862-0236bf649d88.jpg |
| 03:07.37 | Wobin | I've never really considered volley to be like the hunter dropping lots of arrows/bullets on the target |
| 03:07.44 | Wobin | I've always seen it akin to calling an airstrike =P |
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| 03:08.40 | Xyphoid | i am all for less stacked aoe visual effects |
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| 03:09.47 | Kraps | no thats bad |
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| 03:26.15 | Kraps | shiiiiiit http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/funny-facebook-armed-forces.png |
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| 03:40.42 | mikma | urlmonster for cairenn! |
| 03:40.43 | mikma | http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Woman-Who-Put-Cat-In-Bin-In-Coventry-Is-Identified-By-RSPCA-And-Given-Police-Protection/Article/201008415704447?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15704447_Woman_Who_Put_Cat_In_Bin_In_Coventry_Is_Identified_By_RSPCA_And_Given_Police_Protection |
| 03:42.19 | Cairenn | heh |
| 03:42.36 | mikma | Sky's Lisa Dowd said the woman - named by authorities as Mary Bale - was offered police protection because of the "level of vitriol against her". |
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| 03:42.51 | mikma | internet is a powerful thing when you do bad stuff |
| 03:43.16 | Cairenn | yep |
| 03:43.17 | Shirik | lmao |
| 03:43.18 | Jerub | s/bad stuff/bad stuff to cats/ |
| 03:43.20 | Shirik | Kraps: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=250&target=Shirik |
| 03:43.34 | mikma | no, bad stuff. |
| 03:44.36 | Shirik | that was like 250 edits in 5 minutes |
| 03:45.30 | Kraps | whoa dude |
| 03:45.42 | Thunder_Child | obviously thats not a high class news post |
| 03:45.44 | Thunder_Child | "Police did not arrest Ms Bale because she did not committed a criminal offence." |
| 03:49.05 | Shirik | I wonder how many bot edits I have now |
| 03:49.10 | Shirik | that probably pulled me up to about 500 |
| 03:49.43 | mikma | i should fisker you a bit in wikipedia |
| 03:49.59 | kd3 | recoils in horror noticing that he's about to hit 30k edits on wowwiki |
| 03:50.43 | Shirik | nice |
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| 04:03.06 | kd3 | ooh. new phishing variety... an "order confirmation" for sc2 |
| 04:04.03 | Kraps | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/funny-facebook-password-sca.png |
| 04:05.20 | Adys | kd3! |
| 04:05.28 | Adys | I had something to ask you |
| 04:05.31 | kd3 | ya? |
| 04:05.33 | Adys | and then something to show you |
| 04:05.38 | Adys | and then I forgot about both |
| 04:05.44 | kd3 | har |
| 04:06.55 | Shirik | so has anyone else been monitoring P != NP? |
| 04:07.23 | Adys | Shirik: the HP engineer's paper? |
| 04:07.24 | Jerub | Shirik: what P's do between themselves in their own bedroom is their own business |
| 04:07.53 | Shirik | yes Adys |
| 04:07.57 | Shirik | how is it holding up? |
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| 04:08.07 | Adys | i havent been following it |
| 04:08.10 | Adys | i just read the paper |
| 04:08.15 | Shirik | I can't seem to find any news since the 10th |
| 04:08.32 | Adys | thats when the paper was released :p |
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| 04:08.44 | Adys | i dont see why you would tho |
| 04:09.00 | Shirik | eh? |
| 04:09.22 | Adys | find anything new about it |
| 04:09.29 | Xyphoid | there are lots of blogs talking about it |
| 04:09.32 | Xyphoid | eg http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/the-pâ np-proof-is-one-week-old |
| 04:09.47 | Shirik | 404: Page Not Found |
| 04:09.48 | Shirik | We are terribly sorry, but the URL you typed no longer exists. It might have been moved or deleted, or perhaps you mistyped it. We suggest searching the site: |
| 04:09.54 | Adys | get a good client |
| 04:10.03 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:10.04 | Shirik | unicode fail |
| 04:10.39 | Xyphoid | i enjoy reading the critiques, they make me feel incredibly stupid |
| 04:11.53 | Xyphoid | Then (squiggle) is also a yes-instance of EXT, for the trivial reason that extending a` by the all-zero assignment on the other variables satisfies it.' |
| 04:17.43 | Kraps | lol buffy got used by a dude |
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| 04:28.50 | Shirik | oh of course! |
| 04:29.05 | Shirik | One of the reasons people don't believe the P != NP proof is that For -CNFSAT the clauses are disjunctions of -many literals, where each literal is a variable or its negation , Then not only is the existence of a solution -complete, but so is the following extensibility problem even when limited to formulas that are satisfiable. |
| 04:29.13 | Shirik | why didn't I think of that |
| 04:29.41 | Xyphoid | i know i was just kicking myself |
| 04:29.45 | Shirik | afk while my head explodes |
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| 04:51.45 | Mike-N-Go | How we all doin'? |
| 04:52.31 | kd3 | just watching heads asploding thanks to people trying to read commentary on the P != NP proof |
| 04:53.04 | Mike-N-Go | May I have the abstract? |
| 04:53.23 | kd3 | http://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/the-pâ np-proof-is-one-week-old is one that got linked earlier |
| 04:54.08 | kd3 | is deliberately not following the link |
| 04:55.22 | Jamash | hooray for unsolved problems in computer science |
| 04:56.00 | Jamash | I have a proof that Pâ NP but this IRC channel is too small to contain it |
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| 04:57.12 | Corrodias | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8uLT_EIJjs |
| 04:58.25 | Jamash | hawking, paging mc hawking |
| 05:00.21 | Jamash | lolstranauts |
| 05:00.43 | Corrodias | more of it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv6RbEOlqRo |
| 05:01.10 | Jamash | hahahahahaha |
| 05:01.22 | Jamash | oh god |
| 05:02.55 | Jamash | I think I hurt myself laughing |
| 05:04.05 | Corrodias | careful now :D |
| 05:05.22 | Kraps | http://image.patriotpost.us.s3.amazonaws.com/2010-08-24-humor-motiv1.jpg |
| 05:05.53 | Jamash | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q72IOx_9euI&feature=watch_response |
| 05:07.48 | Jamash | I choose to believe this is what the actual moon is like |
| 05:08.06 | Corrodias | once we ship an atmosphere up there and start giving tours, it will be! |
| 05:09.30 | Jamash | we'd better hurry though, the moon is shrinking at a rate of 300ft / 1 billion years |
| 05:09.32 | Kraps | Corrodias: i have hiccups now damn you |
| 05:09.41 | Jamash | Kraps: |
| 05:09.44 | Jamash | BOOOOOOO |
| 05:13.39 | Jerub | Wobin: rocking |
| 05:14.04 | Wobin | Jerub: ? |
| 05:14.08 | Wobin | Jerub: http://doesaustraliahaveagovernmentyet.com/ |
| 05:14.13 | Jerub | Wobin: yes. |
| 05:14.17 | Jerub | you have twitter |
| 05:14.38 | Wobin | ah =) |
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| 05:46.39 | Fisker | i'm a very sick person Wobin |
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| 05:47.33 | Kraps | the google image color filter is win |
| 05:51.16 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 05:51.20 | Fisker | i'm so sick i just farted |
| 05:53.26 | Kraps | http://www.blood-pressure-monitoring.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/fart-button_large.gif |
| 05:56.09 | Kraps | http://brusimm.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/JEWEL-STAITE-joins-WAREHOUSE-13.jpg |
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| 06:08.45 | Kraps | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Au7NBuB3gPgOA93ao0aLqS7j1KIX;_ylv=3?qid=20100824230718AA5Hb1L |
| 06:10.43 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
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| 06:34.56 | mitch0 | anyone happen to know if the AlphaAnim stuff got fixed or not? |
| 06:35.28 | mitch0 | also, if setting the alpha for a frame now properly sets the alpha for icons embedded into fontstrings? |
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| 06:38.16 | mitch0 | and what happens to a texture with SetGradientAlpha() if I later SetAlpha() it. does it lose the gradient thing? |
| 06:38.29 | mitch0 | demands answers |
| 06:38.48 | Fisker | slaps mitch0 around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:38.55 | Fisker | you want answers? |
| 06:39.00 | Fisker | YOU'LL GET A TROUT INSTEAD |
| 06:41.02 | mitch0 | I'll get a coffee instead |
| 06:41.58 | Fisker | no you wont |
| 06:42.02 | Fisker | cause i trouted you |
| 06:42.04 | Fisker | for free |
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| 06:49.59 | mikma | trouter, fisker, trouter... |
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| 07:19.38 | Fisker | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:20.26 | Sixen | did someone say my name? |
| 07:20.31 | Fisker | i did |
| 07:20.34 | Fisker | because i'm a jerk |
| 07:20.41 | Fisker | flexes |
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| 07:21.31 | Fisker | you scared me! |
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| 07:36.39 | Adys | ntfs pros: is ; a reserved character in ntfs? |
| 07:37.49 | zenzio | while I don't technically know, I was able to create and open a file with ; in the name |
| 07:39.09 | Adys | wtf |
| 07:39.34 | Adys | except U+0000 (NUL) / (slash) \ (backslash) : (colon) * (asterisk) ? (Question mark) " (quote) < (less than) > (greater than) and | (pipe) |
| 07:39.44 | Fisker | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247(VS.85).aspx |
| 07:39.51 | Adys | \/| i can understand |
| 07:39.55 | Adys | even ? |
| 07:39.59 | Adys | but : ... |
| 07:40.25 | zenzio | C:\ |
| 07:40.32 | zenzio | guesses |
| 07:40.34 | Adys | ok, how about * |
| 07:40.41 | zenzio | no idea |
| 07:40.44 | Fisker | how do i have C's in my folder then Adys? ;3 |
| 07:40.46 | Fisker | err |
| 07:40.46 | Adys | or " |
| 07:40.48 | Fisker | zenzio |
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| 07:42.40 | Adys | ./series/Psych/Season 2/Psych - S02E15 - Black and Tan: A Crime of Fashion.avi |
| 07:42.40 | Adys | ./series/Psych/Season 4/Psych - S04E01 - Extradition: British Columbia.avi |
| 07:42.40 | Adys | ./series/Psych/Season 1/Psych - S01E15 - Scary Sherry: Bianca's Toast.avi |
| 07:42.48 | Adys | Yep |
| 07:42.56 | Adys | I don't know how anyone could live with ntfs |
| 07:42.57 | Adys | anyway thanks |
| 07:43.36 | Adys | with so many reserved characters, go figure why blizz would pick one that is NOT reserved for separator in lists |
| 07:43.42 | Fisker | Who needs episode names anyway? |
| 07:44.11 | Adys | me |
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| 07:50.02 | harl | hallo |
| 07:50.08 | Fisker | no |
| 07:52.11 | Adys | Fisker/zenzio can any of you test something for me? |
| 07:52.22 | zenzio | probably, what? |
| 07:52.25 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/Launcher.exe |
| 07:52.32 | Adys | i need a screenshot of what you get when you open this |
| 07:52.38 | Adys | and one of the "options" window |
| 07:52.53 | Jerub | wonders if that will run under wine |
| 07:52.58 | Adys | it does |
| 07:53.02 | Adys | hence why i need screenshots |
| 07:53.07 | Adys | im tracking a scrollbar issue |
| 07:53.27 | Jerub | hehehe |
| 07:54.01 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/NOy7n.png |
| 07:56.03 | Jerub | http://imgur.com/1YwYs.png |
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| 07:56.16 | Jerub | http://imgur.com/foqN1.png |
| 07:56.34 | Adys | thanks kids |
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| 07:56.49 | zenzio | what's the scrollbar issue? |
| 07:57.48 | Adys | zenzio: sec |
| 07:58.29 | Adys | lol wine over ssh. |
| 07:58.56 | Ackis | so I played wow tongiht for longer than 15 minutes... ended up playing for about 2-3 hours and actually had fun :( |
| 07:59.03 | Ackis | my xbox started crying |
| 07:59.19 | zenzio | why are you running WoW on your Xbox? |
| 07:59.30 | Adys | zenzio: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/ss.png |
| 07:59.43 | Ackis | :P |
| 07:59.45 | zenzio | Adys: oh, that's odd... |
| 08:00.06 | zenzio | what control (window) type is that, a browser? |
| 08:00.09 | Adys | it's not |
| 08:00.10 | Adys | yeah |
| 08:00.14 | Adys | it's mshtml |
| 08:00.19 | Adys | which in wine means gecko (firefox) |
| 08:01.05 | Adys | Ill report it later, there's wine-gecko-1.1.0 in the queue and I'd like to test it with that first |
| 08:01.20 | Arrowmaster | what wine are you using? |
| 08:01.33 | Adys | last git |
| 08:01.37 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 08:01.44 | Arrowmaster | ive got a wine-gecko-1.2.0 package |
| 08:01.56 | Adys | yeah because it uses wine's version system i guess |
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| 08:02.09 | Adys | wine-gecko-1.1.0 is the 1.1 version of the wine-gecko package |
| 08:02.19 | Adys | current gecko is 1.0.1 or something |
| 08:02.23 | Arrowmaster | oh its wine1.2-gecko |
| 08:02.41 | Adys | ya figure |
| 08:02.51 | Adys | zenzio: what did you take that screenshot on? |
| 08:02.51 | Arrowmaster | its the ubuntu packages |
| 08:02.54 | Adys | xp? |
| 08:02.59 | zenzio | yes, XP 32-bit |
| 08:03.03 | Adys | Arrowmaster: yeah scott richie takes care of it |
| 08:03.15 | zenzio | in classic theme |
| 08:03.29 | Adys | perfect |
| 08:08.16 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:08.24 | Arrowmaster | somebody has been writing too many batch files |
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| 08:09.57 | Arrowmaster | or is start a command for upstart |
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| 08:14.47 | augustl | Adys: O_o |
| 08:14.53 | Adys | ? |
| 08:14.55 | augustl | haha scroll fail |
| 08:15.03 | augustl | "We have 6 users with netscape" |
| 08:15.10 | Adys | :| |
| 08:17.45 | zenzio | might've been linked already: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/1004627539/me-you-dont-have-a-copy-of-the-logo-client |
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| 08:24.10 | Xinhuan | Adys, ? and * are used for filename wildcards lol |
| 08:24.13 | Fisker | how does one see user/group ownership in ls Adys ? |
| 08:24.26 | Adys | Fisker: -a |
| 08:24.32 | Adys | er sorry, -l |
| 08:24.40 | Xinhuan | ? represents exactly 1 character, and * for 0 or more chars |
| 08:24.51 | Adys | Xinhuan: ... so? |
| 08:25.09 | Xinhuan | you were asking why its reserved and can't be used for filenames |
| 08:25.21 | Fisker | -rw-r--r-- is 611 or? |
| 08:25.31 | Fisker | no wai |
| 08:25.33 | Adys | Fisker: i dunno. you want it octal? |
| 08:25.37 | Fisker | yargh |
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| 08:25.58 | Adys | try ls --help |
| 08:26.10 | Adys | Xinhuan: * and ? is an api feature, an allowed character set is a fs feature |
| 08:26.24 | Maldivia | 644 |
| 08:26.26 | Adys | Qt manages to implement wildcards just fine on unix filesystems |
| 08:26.44 | Fisker | the -h option is a lie |
| 08:26.58 | Adys | -h is for humanize |
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| 08:27.11 | Adys | as in humanize filesizes in -l |
| 08:27.20 | Adys | i use ls -alh very often |
| 08:29.08 | zenzio | I use -lah or -laF |
| 08:29.14 | zenzio | because then I can pronounce it more easily in my head |
| 08:29.39 | Adys | I just pronounce Eltch in my head |
| 08:29.50 | Fisker | yeah Adys |
| 08:29.51 | Arrowmaster | arrow@tohsaka:~% which ls |
| 08:29.51 | Arrowmaster | ls: aliased to ls -hF --color=auto |
| 08:30.06 | Fisker | that's why i said it's a lie :D |
| 08:30.10 | Adys | is that bash, Arrowmaster? |
| 08:30.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:30.21 | Adys | i never saw which tell aliases |
| 08:30.42 | Arrowmaster | if you see a % at the end of a shell prompt assume zsh |
| 08:30.43 | mitch0 | --color is evil |
| 08:31.48 | Arrowmaster | mitch0: come on even my tabcomplete is in color! |
| 08:32.00 | Arrowmaster | seriously it is |
| 08:32.22 | mitch0 | my terminal is green on black |
| 08:32.36 | Arrowmaster | white on transparent black |
| 08:32.56 | mitch0 | transparency is also overrated :P |
| 08:33.12 | Arrowmaster | it looks cool and lets me read irc with the terminal up |
| 08:33.20 | zenzio | transparency is a great way to obscure text |
| 08:33.23 | mitch0 | irc is always up |
| 08:33.25 | mitch0 | :P |
| 08:33.37 | Arrowmaster | irc is always up for me too, its just not always ontop |
| 08:33.44 | Arrowmaster | its the only maximized program though |
| 08:35.04 | Kalroth | replace irc with penis and it'd still be true! |
| 08:35.31 | zenzio | afraid that doesn't qualify as maximized, Kalroth |
| 08:35.36 | Arrowmaster | ive got good transparency on my terminal though, only the background is transparent, its not like shitty transparency where everything including the foreground is |
| 08:36.11 | Kalroth | zenzio: maybe not for you |
| 08:36.48 | zenzio | you're right, I have much higher standards for maximization |
| 09:00.30 | Arrowmaster | arrow@tohsaka:~% du -s --apparent-size |
| 09:00.30 | Arrowmaster | 387280366. |
| 09:00.31 | Arrowmaster | arrow@tohsaka:~% du -s |
| 09:00.31 | Arrowmaster | 329052604. |
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| 09:00.59 | Cide | that's.... over 9000 |
| 09:01.06 | Arrowmaster | my torrent client needs to not create files for files its set to not download |
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| 09:01.38 | Arrowmaster | wait that wouldnt help |
| 09:02.13 | Arrowmaster | since i only have 361742916 blocks |
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| 09:05.03 | frontendloader | is it only functions that have no declared "reciever" variables that you can use the arg1 arg2 arg3 etc syntax with? |
| 09:06.05 | frontendloader | I've never seen this before |
| 09:06.21 | frontendloader | always see select(3, ...) etc |
| 09:06.39 | haste | ha? |
| 09:06.43 | frontendloader | or _,_,variable |
| 09:06.57 | haste | I honestly don't understand your question |
| 09:07.03 | frontendloader | me either aparently |
| 09:08.11 | frontendloader | say we have a function setscript'd to a frame that is recieving combatlog events |
| 09:08.33 | frontendloader | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function() end) |
| 09:08.41 | sylvanaar | morning |
| 09:08.59 | frontendloader | inside that function, aparently you can refer to the arguments recieved from a combatlog event as arg1, arg2, arg3 |
| 09:09.08 | frontendloader | they're declared automatically |
| 09:09.13 | wereHamster | they are globals |
| 09:09.20 | haste | they're also deprecated |
| 09:09.36 | frontendloader | that would explain why I've never seen this before |
| 09:09.37 | haste | use function(self, event, ...) local arg1, arg2 = ... |
| 09:10.16 | haste | giving them better names than argN is also recommended |
| 09:10.49 | frontendloader | yeah I was looking at someone else's simple addon |
| 09:11.14 | sylvanaar_atwork | . |
| 09:11.18 | sylvanaar_atwork | wierd |
| 09:11.38 | haste | get back to work! |
| 09:11.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | !! |
| 09:11.50 | frontendloader | thanks for the insight |
| 09:21.47 | mitch0 | looking for wowi admin. I'd like these two addons deleted: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7299-RangeCheck-1.0.html http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7298-RangeDisplay-noext.html |
| 09:24.03 | haste | you could have posted it in the site help forum as well |
| 09:24.21 | haste | they do prune out of date add-ons once in a blue moon as well |
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| 09:25.14 | mitch0 | well, they're there since 2008 :) |
| 09:25.26 | Fisker | hastemen |
| 09:25.33 | mitch0 | erm, 2007-08-08 even |
| 09:27.51 | haste | hence the blue moon comment :P |
| 09:30.24 | mitch0 | I had to reload the captcha three times as I couldn't decipher the first two... |
| 09:31.49 | krka | making captchas harder for computers => making captchas harder for people |
| 09:32.55 | Cairenn | removed x2 |
| 09:33.29 | mitch0 | thanks, disregard my support mail then :) |
| 09:33.37 | Cairenn | :) |
| 09:34.36 | Fisker | i'm pretty awesome though |
| 09:34.51 | Kalroth | weeeeeeell |
| 09:42.29 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEAH |
| 09:46.21 | haste | I think this Fisker was.... |
| 09:46.24 | haste | fished! |
| 09:46.28 | haste | YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH |
| 09:47.13 | Fisker | :( |
| 09:47.54 | Fisker | i wonder if there'll be any CSI/CSI:Miami crossover jokes with laurence fishbournes daughter being a pornstar |
| 09:48.21 | mitch0 | hm. luabind is nice |
| 09:48.21 | Fisker | Looks like your daughter needed to have her plumbing checked |
| 09:48.24 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah |
| 09:48.29 | Fisker | fishbourne: ;( |
| 09:48.32 | Fisker | bawww |
| 09:48.33 | robokitty | :| |
| 09:48.40 | Fisker | hej robokitty |
| 09:49.04 | robokitty | øh hej |
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| 09:55.16 | Wobin | Shirik: http://www.werd.com/4537/the-camera-lens-mug/ |
| 10:05.02 | Cide | that's awesome |
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| 10:57.27 | Fisker | no i'm awesome |
| 11:01.41 | haste | are you a square-free integer Fisker ? |
| 11:03.19 | Fisker | yes haste |
| 11:04.06 | haste | proove it! |
| 11:04.10 | Fisker | no! |
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| 11:13.20 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 11:13.51 | bluspacecow | on os x 10.5.8 and i have 2 launchd processes.... - is this normal ? |
| 11:14.16 | bluspacecow | one is run by my user , the other by root |
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| 11:23.31 | haste | bluspacecow: not that I use osx, but I can see why it would want to run two |
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| 11:23.41 | haste | one for global and one of your user |
| 11:23.49 | haste | ofc it couldprobably handle that with one as well |
| 11:23.52 | haste | but hi2u osx :D |
| 11:23.53 | bluspacecow | one for root level system processes and another for the user ? |
| 11:24.00 | haste | yes |
| 11:24.07 | bluspacecow | \o hai ... erm ... linux ? |
| 11:24.15 | haste | yes I use linux |
| 11:24.32 | Fisker | \o |
| 11:24.34 | Fisker | fucking windows |
| 11:24.42 | haste | I also sat most of yesterday playing with initd |
| 11:25.05 | haste | still some minor parts left until baselayout and initd has been replaced, rawr |
| 11:25.23 | bluspacecow | moving up from fucking AmigaOS i see fisker |
| 11:25.33 | bluspacecow | make sure you wear a condom i suppose |
| 11:25.34 | Fisker | why would i use amigaos |
| 11:25.38 | Fisker | mac os x is shit btw |
| 11:25.43 | bluspacecow | lolz |
| 11:26.11 | bluspacecow | going to blizzconners fiskers ? |
| 11:26.17 | bluspacecow | fisker whisker blisker |
| 11:26.25 | Fisker | why so mad bluspacecow ? |
| 11:26.35 | Fisker | and yeah i'm going, provided jnwhiteh is going |
| 11:26.39 | Fisker | since imma kill him |
| 11:26.40 | bluspacecow | *cocks head to side* |
| 11:26.42 | Fisker | and take his spot |
| 11:26.44 | bluspacecow | i not mad |
| 11:26.48 | bluspacecow | i is maid ! |
| 11:26.52 | bluspacecow | *dons apron* |
| 11:27.01 | bluspacecow | *waggle eyebrows* |
| 11:27.10 | bluspacecow | a _sexy_ maid apron |
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| 11:48.36 | Adys | I'm back from hell |
| 11:49.14 | Fisker | you wish Adys |
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| 11:57.23 | Fisker | why are monitor companies jerks? |
| 11:57.26 | Fisker | i want 1920x1200 |
| 11:57.28 | Fisker | pl0x |
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| 12:01.29 | Kalroth | I had to settle with 2560x1440 :/ |
| 12:01.54 | Kalroth | 1920x1200 is pretty rare these days, you have to pay double for it, compared to 1920x1080 |
| 12:02.57 | Zyn | Fisker : get two of these like I have : http://www.komplett.dk/k/ki.aspx?sku=477710&view=detailed#ProductTabs |
| 12:03.44 | Fisker | you must be mad Zyn |
| 12:03.54 | Zyn | yes I am |
| 12:05.34 | Fisker | WOW admin Account Strong systems and dynamic code protection card |
| 12:05.36 | Fisker | this sounds legit |
| 12:05.39 | Fisker | also a first |
| 12:05.50 | Fisker | though the mail itself is old |
| 12:06.41 | Zyn | a card that dynamically change numbers! SCIENCE! |
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| 12:08.27 | Adys | pptvsetup_2.4.3.0012.exe13.8 kB/s - 4.4 MB of 10.4 MB, 7 mins left |
| 12:08.28 | Adys | zzzzzzzz |
| 12:08.57 | Adys | how do these guys stream live tv when they cant have their program setup download at more than dialup speed? |
| 12:09.25 | bluspacecow | magic pixie dust |
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| 12:12.42 | Moonwitch | meh free wifi sucks if the old couple shuts down their AP when not in use :( |
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| 12:22.37 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/25/wow-wrath-of-the-lich-king-launching-in-china-this-month/ |
| 12:22.38 | sylvanaar_atwork | what? |
| 12:24.06 | Maldivia | sylvanaar_atwork: China doesn't allow zombies, skeletons etc, so almost all the art need to change :P |
| 12:24.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | i didnt realize they didnt have wrath |
| 12:24.37 | Cairenn | Aye, they are significantly behind us. |
| 12:24.41 | sylvanaar_atwork | what do they have 3.0 w/o northrend? |
| 12:24.42 | haste | hey, they're finally getting it :D |
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| 12:25.06 | haste | that also means US is going to loose several subscribers |
| 12:25.35 | Vilkku | hey guys, what is the "ideal" UI scale? |
| 12:25.45 | sylvanaar_atwork | i love this game: http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=261627 |
| 12:25.48 | haste | the one that matches your screen display |
| 12:25.48 | Vilkku | I remember there being some number times your resolution height or something |
| 12:25.50 | sylvanaar_atwork | but seriously - a movie |
| 12:25.51 | Cairenn | It sometimes causes interesting problems on our site, because someone from there will ask for help on an old version of an addon and people will think they are playing on a private server |
| 12:26.05 | Vilkku | oh Cairenn is here - thanks for the beta key! :D |
| 12:26.12 | Cairenn | You're welcome :) |
| 12:26.28 | Vilkku | haste: <_< |
| 12:26.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | hm, so what UI version are they running though? |
| 12:26.48 | Cairenn | They're usually at least one patch behind |
| 12:26.49 | haste | Vilkku: http://provost.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=174553 |
| 12:26.58 | haste | sorry for taking too long googling for you! |
| 12:26.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh, thats not bad |
| 12:27.24 | haste | goes back to work |
| 12:27.34 | Moonwitch | snuggles up to Cairenn |
| 12:27.43 | Cairenn | hugs Moonwitch |
| 12:28.16 | Vilkku | haste, thanks |
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| 12:28.42 | Moonwitch | uhm lil question, whatÅ the current cata build? |
| 12:28.46 | Maldivia | 12803 |
| 12:29.13 | Moonwitch | thanks |
| 12:29.34 | Moonwitch | I just tried playing a little, but with a ping of 4k it just is not possible |
| 12:29.48 | Maldivia | why do you have that high a ping ? |
| 12:30.06 | Moonwitch | Using USB Cellphone on Edge :P |
| 12:30.11 | Maldivia | lol |
| 12:30.24 | Moonwitch | yeah |
| 12:30.30 | Maldivia | hope you have the full game downloaded, so it doens't download data in the background :P |
| 12:30.53 | Moonwitch | well I only have 200MB to work with a month on my cellphone's dataplan |
| 12:30.53 | Moonwitch | LOL |
| 12:31.11 | Maldivia | well, almost end of month, so .P |
| 12:31.24 | Maldivia | what happens if you go over the 200MB ? |
| 12:31.36 | Moonwitch | basically the screen is so wonky (at home I have a 23inch monitor) it's just not possible :P |
| 12:31.41 | Moonwitch | I pay a lot |
| 12:32.02 | Maldivia | I have 1Gig/month, and if I use more than that, they just throttle my speed :P |
| 12:32.14 | airtonix | you didn't try making the cantenna i suggested Moonwitch ? |
| 12:32.20 | Moonwitch | nope |
| 12:32.38 | Moonwitch | I've tried with Backtrack .. but I'm doing something wrong |
| 12:32.48 | Moonwitch | can't get the IVs I need to find the password |
| 12:33.01 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 12:33.14 | airtonix | granted the two most difficult things you need to get are : a usb wifi device that lets you attach an external attena, 2) a custom pigtail smt aerial cable |
| 12:33.15 | Moonwitch | hey at least I tried |
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| 12:33.52 | airtonix | Moonwitch, ok i recommend you do this ; install pyWepCrack |
| 12:34.05 | airtonix | then grab aircrak fro your distro |
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| 12:34.23 | Moonwitch | Well I used aireplay-ng |
| 12:34.34 | airtonix | yeah thats only part of it |
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| 12:34.49 | airtonix | you really need to have three things running at the same time to get better results |
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| 12:35.07 | airtonix | you also need a wifi device that can do packet injection at a decent rate |
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| 12:35.28 | airtonix | that last bit makes getting the IVs easier |
| 12:35.30 | Moonwitch | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/lifehacker/2009/07/wepcrackbacktrack-head.png I could get to this point, but could never find the IVs needed for aireplay :( |
| 12:35.51 | airtonix | i dont use backtrack |
| 12:36.09 | Moonwitch | and that was probably the missing element -- the packet injection |
| 12:36.31 | airtonix | at the moment im using ubuntu 10,04 on my netbook for everyday stuff and i just have the aircrack packages installed |
| 12:36.36 | airtonix | but |
| 12:36.51 | airtonix | i also use a handy mono tool that i found on the aircrack forums |
| 12:37.38 | airtonix | by the way, has anyone played with distributing a pyGtK program for windows as an exe ? |
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| 12:37.55 | Moonwitch | honestly, no experience in that department |
| 12:38.08 | Moonwitch | is feeling less simplified now. |
| 12:38.18 | airtonix | http://forum.aircrack-ng.org/index.php?topic=6329.0 |
| 12:38.34 | Moonwitch | I swear, 'hanging' out with older folks and kids after a week or two makes your IQ drop a lot. |
| 12:38.57 | Moonwitch | ooh that's nice airtonix |
| 12:39.01 | airtonix | Moonwitch, that gui makes it easy for me to test out clients wifi |
| 12:39.09 | airtonix | and to show them how poor wep is |
| 12:39.22 | airtonix | i mean they just look at me with blank looks if i use the terminal method |
| 12:39.27 | Moonwitch | one thing though, I installed backtrack as persistent liveCD on my USB :P |
| 12:39.35 | Moonwitch | airtonix, isn't that part of the fun? |
| 12:39.46 | airtonix | it gets tedious after a while |
| 12:40.10 | Moonwitch | I considered writing a bash script :P |
| 12:40.12 | airtonix | because you have to have nearly four terminal windows open at the same time |
| 12:40.17 | Moonwitch | but this is actually a whole lot easier |
| 12:40.20 | Moonwitch | yep |
| 12:40.25 | airtonix | well there is a CLI version of that monoGUI |
| 12:40.39 | airtonix | airscript or something |
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| 12:40.51 | Moonwitch | I'll sort it with the GUI :D |
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| 12:41.08 | airtonix | yeah, also i heard that ndiswrapper will support monitor mode soon |
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| 12:41.44 | Vilkku | uhu, are 132 errors normal in cata, or should I be worried that my memory has issues? |
| 12:41.58 | Moonwitch | mind you, if I walk 5 minutes, I have unlimited net access at 30Mbps :P |
| 12:42.42 | Moonwitch | I just hate walking around with a laptop at the coast, sit down in a restaurant just for the internet |
| 12:42.52 | airtonix | you need to stash a wifi repeater there for yourself |
| 12:43.09 | Moonwitch | yeah should become part of my standard equipment soon |
| 12:43.49 | airtonix | i went and bought a $20 camera stand and some pvc 50mm drainage pipe to make a telescopic antenna pole for my cantenna |
| 12:43.55 | airtonix | its pro |
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| 12:44.01 | airtonix | cables ties :) |
| 12:44.52 | Moonwitch | that's epic |
| 12:45.00 | Moonwitch | pringles you said, right? |
| 12:45.26 | Moonwitch | anyhow, gotta go, we have guests :( |
| 12:45.35 | Moonwitch | I'll catch you guys on the flip side |
| 12:45.42 | airtonix | yeah but thats only if your going to make a proper emitter with a pigtail |
| 12:45.48 | Moonwitch | ps... in sept I shouldn't be around a lot either, since we're moving that month |
| 12:50.08 | Maldivia | hmm, ok - the new streaming beta client is actually pretty cool :P |
| 12:51.14 | Maldivia | wanted to try something, so just copied the exe/dll etc files from the root, and Data/enUS/realmlist.wtf file to another computer, and started the game, and it worked (it downloaded the GlueXML, login screen animation etc) :) |
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| 12:54.01 | Kraps | Yes, the danger must be growing |
| 12:54.02 | Kraps | For the rowers keep on rowing |
| 12:54.04 | Kraps | And they're certainly not showing |
| 12:54.06 | Kraps | Any signs that they are slowing |
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| 13:05.10 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, my cats have been scanned! |
| 13:05.19 | industrial | cat-scan |
| 13:05.45 | Moonwitch | throws hugs and kisses for all! |
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| 13:06.14 | Cairenn | lol, that reminds me of the joke about the guy that goes to see the doctor |
| 13:06.22 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: you really should get a camera instead |
| 13:06.34 | |Jelly| | ZOMG! PEPPY AND CAIRENN AGAIN! :P |
| 13:06.43 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:07.13 | |Jelly| | I'm way too tired of any shenanigans this morning though. :( |
| 13:10.18 | Lopeppeppy | Literally industrial, a CAT scan. :) I'm waiting for films to be read to tell me how many kittens I'll have! |
| 13:11.11 | zenzio | wait, what? Your cats are having kittens? |
| 13:11.17 | zenzio | I thought they lived indoors? |
| 13:12.31 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* No, it was me in the scanner, zenzio. Kidney stones may be my special breed of kitten. |
| 13:13.17 | zenzio | you'll have a hard time giving those kittens away |
| 13:13.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, no one wants that crap. |
| 13:14.13 | krka | Cairenn: i dont get it :( |
| 13:14.25 | Cairenn | don't get what? |
| 13:14.37 | krka | the joke about the guy and the doctor |
| 13:14.46 | Cairenn | oh, you haven't heard it before? |
| 13:14.59 | krka | well, i wouldnt know |
| 13:15.08 | krka | i imagine there are quite a lot of jokes about guys and doctors |
| 13:15.27 | Cairenn | guy goes into the doctor complaining about severe abdominal pain |
| 13:15.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | kinda like guys and bars |
| 13:15.45 | Cairenn | doc says hop up on the table and let's take a look |
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| 13:16.30 | Cairenn | guy lies down, cat comes in, jumps up on the table beside him, and walks from one end of the table to the other, looking the guy over, then jumps down and walks out again |
| 13:17.06 | Cairenn | a couple minutes later, a dog comes in, puts its front paws up on the table and sniffs the guy, then gets down and leaves the room |
| 13:17.42 | Cairenn | the doc says it's probably just gas, gives him some tums and tells him to see the receptionist on the way out for his bill |
| 13:18.05 | Cairenn | guy goes out to the receptionist and she hands him a bill for $5000.00 |
| 13:18.19 | Cairenn | the guy is completely outraged and demands an explanation |
| 13:18.50 | Cairenn | "all you did was have me lie down on the table, let your pets bug me, then give me a couple tums, what's the deal" |
| 13:19.25 | Cairenn | the doc says, yes, but it's $2500 for the cat-scan and $2500 for the lab-tests |
| 13:19.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | facepalms |
| 13:19.50 | krka | doh |
| 13:19.55 | zenzio | :-p |
| 13:19.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | ok, my turn |
| 13:20.05 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 13:20.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | an electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, and software engineer are in a car |
| 13:20.44 | sylvanaar_atwork | (know this one?) |
| 13:20.49 | sylvanaar_atwork | the car breaks down. |
| 13:21.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | the mechanical engineer says, check the engine - that must be the problem |
| 13:21.24 | sylvanaar_atwork | the electrical engineer says, must be a short in the electical system |
| 13:21.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | the software engineer says... everyone get out of the car and get back in |
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| 13:22.21 | krka | doesn't make sense |
| 13:22.25 | sylvanaar_atwork | ha |
| 13:22.36 | krka | would make more sense if you s/software engineer/it support/ |
| 13:22.42 | sylvanaar_atwork | just run the program again |
| 13:22.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | tough room |
| 13:23.05 | krka | the sw-engineer would more likely say "not a bug, can't reproduce" |
| 13:23.39 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:23.53 | Lopeppeppy | "Working as intended!" |
| 13:23.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | "get me the logs" |
| 13:24.07 | Lopeppeppy | "run a trace route" |
| 13:24.51 | krka | "well, it works for me" |
| 13:24.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol |
| 13:25.37 | sylvanaar_atwork | "are you using the latest model" |
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| 13:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | We have a patch for that. |
| 13:28.32 | Lopeppeppy | That was "end of life" in 2008, you need to buy a new one. |
| 13:28.49 | Cairenn | *giggle* |
| 13:29.05 | Fisker | this is why i hate vbscript |
| 13:29.24 | Lopeppeppy | it makes bad jokes? |
| 13:29.29 | Fisker | naw |
| 13:29.53 | Fisker | i wanted it to do some very rudimentary tasks so i wanted to do something easier like in powershell |
| 13:30.05 | Fisker | Then i wanted to run it but it isn't signed :< |
| 13:30.22 | Fisker | so now i've been using the last hour or so to enable code signing certs on our AD :( |
| 13:30.31 | Fisker | damn you vbscript! |
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| 13:32.51 | Fisker | slaps ckknight around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:38.37 | Fisker | replicate you damn dirty domain controller |
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| 13:52.42 | zenzio | so this girl just told me "neat code make me hot"... |
| 13:52.50 | zenzio | cleans up his comments |
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| 13:54.50 | industrial | zenzio: tell her howmuch of a refactoring champ you are |
| 13:55.05 | industrial | and that you develop your own toolchain to keep things organized |
| 13:55.09 | zenzio | I should tell her to come back to my whitespace |
| 13:55.19 | industrial | haha |
| 13:56.48 | Fisker | oh yay |
| 13:56.50 | Fisker | only 5 minutes now |
| 14:00.51 | Fisker | bam |
| 14:01.19 | Fisker | s/m/wwwwww |
| 14:04.42 | mikma | haste: http://www.break.com/index/bowling-ball-nutshot.html |
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| 14:21.02 | haste | mikma: I'll watch it after this meeting |
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| 14:21.38 | Fisker | that was holy fucking batman robokitty |
| 14:23.23 | Fisker | http://www.speedtest.net/result/927536714.png |
| 14:25.04 | Fisker | jeg boller dig i numsen Shirik |
| 14:26.47 | haste | Fisker: http://www.speedtest.net/result/927540563.png |
| 14:27.49 | Fisker | i want your upload :( |
| 14:28.27 | haste | tbh, I'm at work :( |
| 14:28.43 | haste | and I"m tethering |
| 14:29.05 | haste | and I'm in a meeting |
| 14:29.37 | Thunder_Child | haste: cant be that good of a meeting if you are talking to us |
| 14:29.56 | haste | oh, I'm done with everything I should really |
| 14:30.01 | haste | almost! |
| 14:30.02 | haste | *swoosh |
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| 14:32.44 | haste | and I'm back! |
| 14:32.46 | haste | leaving early, rawr |
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| 14:38.29 | jnwhiteh | hrm, just started using zsh today |
| 14:38.45 | jnwhiteh | setting a decent prompt took half the time of bash, so that was nice. |
| 14:38.54 | jnwhiteh | http://www.speedtest.net/result/927555230.png |
| 14:39.33 | Fisker | lies jnwhiteh |
| 14:39.41 | Fisker | linux users can't browser |
| 14:39.47 | Fisker | or mac |
| 14:39.52 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 14:40.37 | Fisker | also you're going to blizzcon right? |
| 14:42.02 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 14:42.40 | Fisker | aww man |
| 14:42.46 | nicoli_s | boo |
| 14:42.50 | nicoli_s | everybody go! |
| 14:43.12 | Fisker | that time of the month again? |
| 14:43.28 | Fisker | hey nicoli_s btw |
| 14:43.47 | nicoli_s | hey |
| 14:45.17 | mikma | http://naurunappula.com/76685/1194758777.jpg <- woman tuning |
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| 14:58.41 | airtonix | <3 django |
| 15:01.03 | nicoli_s | yech |
| 15:01.33 | nicoli_s | django would be so much better if the code generation worked half decent |
| 15:01.51 | nicoli_s | i hate that it ony can generate the code for a table the first time(at least when i used it) |
| 15:01.58 | airtonix | does "status" have a plural ? |
| 15:02.10 | airtonix | nicoli_s, you need to use "south" |
| 15:02.19 | nicoli_s | is that a django lib? |
| 15:02.21 | airtonix | http://south.aeracode.org/docs/tutorial/part1.html |
| 15:02.24 | airtonix | yep |
| 15:03.03 | airtonix | nicoli_s, i put off learning how to use it but now that i have, i no longer blow my database away everytime i make a change to my models |
| 15:03.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | im tempted to just remove fattyfox 3 and use 4b4 |
| 15:03.10 | nicoli_s | the code generation in our new asp.net mvc framework is so great, can even generate methods based on indices and roign keys and such |
| 15:03.23 | nicoli_s | foreign* |
| 15:03.38 | airtonix | i think django does that now too |
| 15:03.51 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 15:03.58 | nicoli_s | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.12 | airtonix | yeah fair bit of change since then |
| 15:04.23 | airtonix | i only stated using it early this year |
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| 15:07.59 | alestane | So is Rosiekins razzing you, Lopeppeppy? |
| 15:08.25 | airtonix | if i were to create a status model for an issue to use as a foriegn key... what other fields would you use apart from just the status name ? (would you put something to indicate how important the status type was ? ) |
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| 15:13.45 | cog|away | RAWR |
| 15:13.54 | alestane | RAWR! |
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| 15:23.12 | cog|work | looks like another 3-digit temperature today... hopefully the AC at work will be functional |
| 15:23.15 | airtonix | nicoli_s, this is what i meant by the thing about issues having relationship to a status : https://docs.google.com/drawings/pub?id=1edzmV31w13yQiwu5fJmV_pgVxtgCpJnsI1pOHPw4C6w&w=639&h=527 |
| 15:23.55 | nicoli_s | checking it out |
| 15:24.22 | nicoli_s | but yeah i would have an importance for status |
| 15:24.25 | airtonix | i just thought maybe that somewhere down the line it would be handy to filter all issues based on how "dangerous" they might be or something like that |
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| 15:27.37 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 15:27.43 | Adys | actually; anyone keeps patches? |
| 15:27.48 | Adys | nicoli_s maybe? |
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| 15:29.44 | nicoli_s | keep patches? |
| 15:29.47 | nicoli_s | for wow you mean? |
| 15:29.51 | Adys | yes |
| 15:30.00 | nicoli_s | not me, i dont really do wow work anymore |
| 15:33.21 | TC-Work | Adys: for which one? |
| 15:33.33 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/EpWlY |
| 15:33.35 | Adys | any of these |
| 15:33.58 | TC-Work | let me check |
| 15:34.05 | haste | jnwhiteh: zsh is awesome~ |
| 15:34.32 | jnwhiteh | i dont know enough about it to know why it's awesome. |
| 15:35.24 | Adys | jnwhiteh: zsh sucks balls |
| 15:36.19 | jnwhiteh | brb |
| 15:36.20 | jnwhiteh | inception |
| 15:36.51 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7lw6navKd1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg |
| 15:36.57 | Wobin | YOU CANNOT UNSEE |
| 15:37.15 | haste | jnwhiteh: completion system alone is enough imo :P |
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| 15:39.39 | TC-Work | Adys: i have WoW-3.2.0.10192-to-3.2.0.10314-enUS-patch.exe, and WoW-3.2.0.10314-to-3.2.2.10482-enUS-patch.exe, |
| 15:41.44 | mikma | wobin: old! :) |
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| 15:42.32 | Adys | TC-Work: any chance you can upload them? |
| 15:42.44 | TC-Work | Adys: where to? |
| 15:43.15 | Adys | TC-Work: anywhere |
| 15:43.45 | TC-Work | Adys: fine then, i'll upload them to my other computer |
| 15:44.08 | Adys | thanks |
| 15:47.38 | Shirik | yeah Wobin |
| 15:47.47 | Shirik | mikma saw that on kuvaton like 4 months ago |
| 15:48.03 | mikma | atleast |
| 15:48.06 | Shirik | actually every image you find will have been seen by mikma on kuvaton 4 months ago, so you might as well stop looking |
| 15:48.23 | mikma | internet belongs to me now |
| 15:48.39 | mikma | shirik: actually, you confused me with fisker. he's the one |
| 15:53.13 | Fisker | Jeg boller dig i numsen Shirik |
| 15:54.00 | TC-Work | Adys: http://www.sendspace.com/file/tkj1s5 |
| 15:54.27 | Wobin | Shirik: did you see that coffee mug I linked earlier today? |
| 15:54.38 | Shirik | no |
| 15:54.47 | Wobin | I totally pinged you on it =( |
| 15:55.06 | Fisker | Jeg boller dig i numsen Shirik Shirik Shirik |
| 15:55.07 | Wobin | http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/camera-lens-mug/ |
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| 15:56.06 | Fisker | old Wobin |
| 15:56.34 | Fisker | oh sweet |
| 15:56.40 | Fisker | Microsoft ripped off Chrome |
| 15:57.05 | Wobin | I wasn't linking for you Fisker |
| 15:57.09 | Wobin | I assumed you'd seen it |
| 15:57.48 | kaso | Wobin: http://i.imgur.com/sVCZF.jpg |
| 15:58.04 | Wobin | kaso: yeah |
| 15:58.07 | Wobin | terrible =P |
| 15:58.11 | Wobin | I'll keep the dog masks |
| 15:58.16 | Fisker | then you should say so Wobin |
| 15:58.23 | Wobin | no. |
| 15:58.25 | Wobin | Why? |
| 15:58.30 | Fisker | yes |
| 15:58.33 | Fisker | that's why |
| 15:58.36 | Wobin | that's the whole point of an 'assumption' |
| 15:58.44 | Wobin | It doesn't -need- to be stated |
| 15:58.47 | Wobin | it just -is- |
| 16:00.41 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 16:07.03 | Shirik | _________________________________________________ |
| 16:07.03 | Shirik | (02:55:07) (Wobin) Shirik: http://www.werd.com/4537/the-camera-lens-mug/ |
| 16:07.03 | Shirik | [#wowuidev] - [25/08/2010] |
| 16:07.04 | Shirik | ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ |
| 16:07.04 | Shirik | ? |
| 16:07.37 | mikma | which one is better, Seal of Command or Seal of Vengeance? |
| 16:07.38 | Shirik | also, I want one :( |
| 16:07.41 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:07.46 | Fisker | listen to what i said |
| 16:07.49 | Wobin | Shirik: yes, and just above =) |
| 16:07.55 | Fisker | depends on the situation mikma |
| 16:07.58 | alestane | They're for different things, mikma. |
| 16:08.04 | Fisker | Single-target dps you should use vengeance |
| 16:08.14 | Fisker | Command is nice for aoe packs |
| 16:08.33 | mikma | yeah, me and wife usually gather bunch of mobs that we take down |
| 16:08.59 | Fisker | you didn't kill your wife |
| 16:09.09 | mikma | and i don't even wan't to |
| 16:11.17 | zenzelezz | Shirik - the one person who will expand one line to five to ask someone to elaborate |
| 16:12.00 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:12.04 | Fisker | Shirik jeg boller dig i numsen |
| 16:12.59 | nicoli_s | Shirik:can you recommend a VS tool or addin that will let me see which objects in memro yare taking up the most space? |
| 16:13.37 | Shirik | sorry, I live in the world of C++ where that doesn't exist :) |
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| 16:14.14 | Shirik | zenzelezz :( |
| 16:17.19 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:17.21 | Fisker | do you hear me? |
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| 16:22.25 | Fisker | didn't Blizzard talk about reducing the numbers for AV and IoC? |
| 16:23.54 | mikma | wobin: http://manzano.naurunappula.com/nn/0/714/119/s_539835.jpg <- hippo racing |
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| 16:25.46 | Dagmar | mikma: AWESOME department they've got there |
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| 16:27.15 | mikma | http://www.snopes.com/travel/foreign/olympics.asp |
| 16:27.22 | mikma | another version, this time in canada |
| 16:27.52 | Dagmar | mikma: I think that joke about the hippo races backfires a little when it comes to the Vienna Boys Choir. |
| 16:28.37 | mikma | dagmar: did you read the answer? |
| 16:28.56 | Dagmar | Yes |
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| 16:29.04 | Dagmar | ...which is why I'm thinking that backfires a little. |
| 16:29.16 | unfo- | how can a sarcastic answer backfire? |
| 16:29.21 | mikma | cause they tell you that it's after hippo racing? |
| 16:29.21 | Dagmar | "Come naked." |
| 16:29.45 | Dagmar | Any questions or is this going to be like the effin your sister thing and someone didn't get the memo |
| 16:32.10 | mikma | you are gonna eff your sister?!? i didn't get the memo :P |
| 16:32.18 | Dagmar | Not me |
| 16:32.26 | Dagmar | I'm from the south. I know better. |
| 16:32.53 | alestane | Any ideas what I do to eliminate an error like "ValueError: depythonifying 'unsigned int', got 'int' of wrong magnitude" |
| 16:33.39 | Dagmar | Use a larger or smaller int |
| 16:34.13 | Dagmar | It could be a long int or a short int it's converting, although I am slightly chuckling that it's that picky about it |
| 16:34.16 | Fisker | why won't twitter just die? |
| 16:34.31 | Kalroth | Tweet about it |
| 16:34.32 | Dagmar | Fisker: Because it's useful for some things |
| 16:34.33 | mikma | casts Arcane Intellect (Rank 1) to alestane |
| 16:34.48 | airtonix | Dagmar, what? |
| 16:34.53 | alestane | Okay, so Python does actually have separate int and long types. |
| 16:35.01 | Dagmar | Like, when your city just had 14 inches of rain fall on it, and you're trying to figure out what intersections are flooded out |
| 16:35.08 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.21 | Fisker | only useful if you can actually access it |
| 16:35.24 | Dagmar | Frelling half of Nashville underwater |
| 16:35.25 | airtonix | does each intersection have a unique twitter account ? |
| 16:35.46 | Fisker | which, given that every site with some kind of twitter integration is taking 1 billion years to load, seems unlikely |
| 16:35.48 | Dagmar | airtonix: No, but people all over town posting to #NashvilleFlood makes one hell of a useful realtime reporting system |
| 16:36.20 | airtonix | east and fourteenth : may 14th, water rose another five millimeters...pedestrian fell on my east facign kerb. i can taste the blood. |
| 16:36.21 | Dagmar | I actually had to use that to get to and from work |
| 16:37.05 | Dagmar | airtonix: Dude, I live in a condo overlooking the river. When the Wolf Creek Dam was threatning to fail, I dug up the flood maps and was making jokes about fishing off my balcony if it failed |
| 16:37.16 | Fisker | but then your mobile shorted out due to water damage |
| 16:37.18 | airtonix | >< |
| 16:37.20 | Dagmar | THen in May, we had 14 inches of rain in a day, then 14 more the next day. |
| 16:37.27 | Dagmar | The river went up by about 40 feet. |
| 16:37.33 | Dagmar | Not as funny as I thought it would be. |
| 16:37.43 | Dagmar | It was like small lakes went on a rampage all over town |
| 16:37.53 | airtonix | Dagmar, i wouldn;t be surprised if in 30years intersections DO have their own rss feeds or twitter accounts because they are managed by AI |
| 16:37.55 | alestane | Were you, in fact, able to fish off your balcony? |
| 16:37.58 | Dagmar | THAT much water at once can overwhelm even here. |
| 16:38.01 | Dagmar | alestane: Oh yes. |
| 16:38.20 | alestane | Were you able to launch a boat from it? |
| 16:39.03 | Dagmar | I've got a picture I took from the intersection of White Bridge Road and Charlotte Pike where you can see >8 feet of water just kind of hanging out after demolishing a car lot, a Burger King, and a comics store |
| 16:39.08 | Dagmar | An hour later it was gone. |
| 16:39.24 | airtonix | <religious music> |
| 16:39.42 | nicoli_s | this nashville tn? |
| 16:39.47 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: Yep |
| 16:39.56 | Dagmar | Twitter was REAL handy for that |
| 16:40.19 | airtonix | ok, what I learned from this |
| 16:40.20 | nicoli_s | im not too far away from nashville |
| 16:40.54 | Fisker | SHIRIK |
| 16:41.00 | airtonix | when trapped in a basement during a bombing run with dagmar, make sure you supply him wth the following items : a phone with twitter access, a camera, and some paper and pens |
| 16:41.45 | Dagmar | Seriously man, with eyes all over town it was actually pretty easy to figure out which routes were closed and which ones weren't |
| 16:42.05 | Dagmar | Well, mainly because by the second day the number of places you could get through if you wanted to cross town you could list on one hand |
| 16:42.26 | Dagmar | ....THOSE people were very chatty about that they actually weren't underwater. heh |
| 16:42.33 | airtonix | and those who didnt know waht twitter was probably had colostomy bags to deal with |
| 16:42.45 | Dagmar | Probably yeah. Heheh |
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| 16:59.08 | alestane | An exercise-fiend friend of mine just "liked" something called "Fit-Bottomed Girls." |
| 16:59.23 | Fisker | i ejaculate into your wound alestane |
| 16:59.54 | alestane | Dagmar: My problem before stemmed from passing -1 to a poutine that was going to hand it off to a C routine that expected an unsigned. |
| 16:59.58 | alestane | routine* |
| 17:00.20 | nicoli_s | Fisker:lol that shit is hilarious |
| 17:00.29 | nicoli_s | all her other videos are just as creepy and hilarious |
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| 17:00.41 | Fisker | :O |
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| 17:12.35 | TC-Work | Adys: http://www.sendspace.com/file/4szwx3 |
| 17:12.37 | TC-Work | #2 |
| 17:12.54 | Adys | thanks |
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| 17:15.06 | TC-Work | ^_^ |
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| 17:16.21 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:17.10 | cog|work | ohai |
| 17:17.16 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/OfficialGmailBlog/~3/Z5lBORu6Fro/call-phones-from-gmail.html |
| 17:21.37 | Lunessa | it took a complete reinstall, but I can log in to beta again. Yay me. |
| 17:23.17 | rljohn | yay |
| 17:23.33 | rljohn | some people in our guild had to do a couple reinstalls |
| 17:24.32 | Lunessa | This is only the 5th time. |
| 17:25.07 | rljohn | oh fantastic |
| 17:25.08 | rljohn | lol |
| 17:25.13 | rljohn | We have a 95GB cap |
| 17:25.23 | rljohn | i don't think I could do it |
| 17:26.06 | Shirik | Fisker: Shirik is not here, please leave a message or try again later |
| 17:26.08 | rljohn | it will be nice when they open up lvl 85 and addons |
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| 17:30.47 | Shirik | to be perfectly honest, I'm sick of end-users getting mad that addons aren't enabled |
| 17:30.56 | Shirik | authors, sure, it's a little annoying because you can't test |
| 17:31.07 | Shirik | but people that don't develop addons really have no business installing them there |
| 17:31.24 | Shirik | The whole point of a beta is to test, not to have fun (though there's nothing wrong with doing the latter while you do the former) |
| 17:31.48 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:31.51 | Fisker | Shirik |
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| 17:32.02 | Fisker | jeg boller dig i numsen Shirik |
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| 17:34.10 | Fisker | what are caps rljohn ? |
| 17:35.20 | Fisker | danish rates are pretty ":O" |
| 17:35.50 | Shirik | :O |
| 17:36.06 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:36.11 | Fisker | jeg boller dig i numsen |
| 17:36.13 | Shirik | :O |
| 17:36.16 | Fisker | google translate now |
| 17:40.05 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
| 17:40.56 | Shirik | ~vs batbot Shirik |
| 17:40.57 | purl | in a one on one showdown, batbot wins. |
| 17:40.57 | Shirik | :/ |
| 17:40.57 | Fisker | you will be destroyed Shirik |
| 17:41.06 | Shirik | fu |
| 17:42.11 | rljohn | Fisker , 83 |
| 17:42.13 | rljohn | is cap |
| 17:42.27 | rljohn | lol |
| 17:42.30 | rljohn | mt |
| 17:42.33 | rljohn | on that lol |
| 17:42.48 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:42.52 | Fisker | jeg boller dig i numsen |
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| 17:46.28 | TC-Work | ~vs Shirik EDI |
| 17:46.29 | purl | in a one on one showdown, everyone wins. |
| 17:46.49 | TC-Work | thats annoying |
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| 17:55.08 | alestane | So, I have a list of lists of numbers (a 2D array) at the start of my program, and when I feed the program into Python it points at seemingly random points in this matrix and tells me "invalid token." |
| 17:55.31 | Fisker | did you pay your parking tickets? |
| 17:55.37 | Fisker | ~vs Fisker EDI |
| 17:55.38 | purl | in a one on one showdown, the companion cube wins. |
| 17:55.42 | Fisker | :/ |
| 17:55.46 | Fisker | ~vs Fisker TC-Work |
| 17:55.47 | purl | in a one on one showdown, Fisker wins. |
| 17:55.50 | Fisker | yay |
| 17:56.04 | TC-Work | figures |
| 17:56.17 | unfo- | hmmmh... ppl are asking about python here... have i missed something: can you code wow addons in python nowadays? |
| 17:56.38 | Fisker | You can only discuss wow in this channel |
| 17:56.43 | alestane | *snrk* The situation that came up when I googled it was someone else trying to solve exactly the same problem. |
| 17:56.47 | alestane | No, unfo-. |
| 17:56.50 | Fisker | so asking that isn't an appropiate question unfo- |
| 17:57.18 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:57.22 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:57.29 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:57.37 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:57.48 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:57.49 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:57.54 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:57.55 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:57.57 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:57.59 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:58.00 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:58.03 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:58.04 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:58.08 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:58.10 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:58.23 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:58.27 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:58.48 | Fisker | TC-Work |
| 17:58.52 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 17:58.55 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:58.58 | Fisker | edi isn't even here |
| 17:59.01 | Fisker | nevermind then |
| 17:59.03 | TC-Work | nope |
| 17:59.11 | TC-Work | ~fail Fisker |
| 17:59.12 | purl | Fisker, you Fail! |
| 17:59.50 | zenzelezz | ... |
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| 18:02.18 | alestane | Spam-ban chicken? |
| 18:02.26 | foxlit | A wild, suntanned foxlit appears. |
| 18:03.43 | unfo- | Fisker, err... I wasn't taking the piss out of anyone.. I was genuinely asking whether it was possible |
| 18:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | captures and braises the wild foxlit |
| 18:04.21 | cog|work | unfo-: don't feed the Fisker |
| 18:05.00 | unfo- | ok. |
| 18:05.15 | alestane | It isn't possible, unfo-. I just bug Cide with my python questions lately. |
| 18:05.23 | NightHawkTheSane | you can more or less ignore Fisker entirely, and be fine :P |
| 18:05.31 | unfo- | alestane, ok ok. no worries :-) |
| 18:06.01 | alestane | None, just making sure you got a clear answer to your question out of all that. |
| 18:06.11 | NightHawkTheSane | And well, a lot of us here are developers outside of wow addons, so we it sometimes strays into general-proramming topics from time to time :) |
| 18:06.26 | Shirik | Cide |
| 18:06.31 | Cide | Shirik |
| 18:06.31 | Shirik | I want to hurt you |
| 18:06.33 | Cide | why |
| 18:06.45 | Shirik | (17:43:06) (Cide) ping? |
| 18:06.45 | Shirik | (18:23:42)  -⺠Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 18:06.45 | Shirik | (18:23:44) (Shirik) pong |
| 18:06.46 | Shirik | (18:23:44)  -⺠No such nick/channel (Cide) |
| 18:06.47 | unfo- | NightHawkTheSane, yeah. so am i :) |
| 18:06.55 | Cide | haha |
| 18:06.56 | Cide | owned |
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| 18:09.02 | Fisker | naw NightHawkTheSane |
| 18:09.05 | Fisker | you must be joking |
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| 18:14.58 | Fisker | damn Adys |
| 18:15.09 | Adys | ? |
| 18:15.11 | Fisker | you're playing worms reloaded |
| 18:15.16 | Adys | not reallty |
| 18:15.20 | Fisker | that's soooo last months game |
| 18:15.21 | Adys | im QAing it on wine :P |
| 18:15.25 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:15.36 | Fisker | you bought a game to test it on wine! |
| 18:15.38 | Adys | kd3 |
| 18:15.44 | Adys | mshtml: Wine Gecko 1.1.0 release. |
| 18:15.44 | Adys | mshtml: Added Gecko64 support. |
| 18:15.47 | Adys | \o/ |
| 18:18.38 | Fisker | gecko? |
| 18:18.44 | Fisker | Isn't that the firefox renderer? |
| 18:19.50 | foxlit | Well fiskered, Fisker. |
| 18:20.07 | alestane | Also a lizard who sold out. |
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| 18:24.40 | foxlit | Are addons enabled on beta yet? |
| 18:24.56 | nicoli_s | no |
| 18:24.59 | cog|work | no. it's probably going to be a while |
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| 18:25.21 | cog|work | there's a UI&M forum on the beta site now tho |
| 18:25.49 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560496129&pageNo=1&sid=2000#6 |
| 18:28.15 | Fisker | old cog|work |
| 18:31.21 | nevcairiel | I wish they would release a fixed framexml tool |
| 18:32.11 | Yssaril | nevcairiel: you mean addonkit? |
| 18:32.15 | nevcairiel | sure |
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| 18:32.48 | Yssaril | yea /sigh would be nice |
| 18:39.24 | kd3|netbook | adys; ! |
| 18:39.37 | Adys | Fisker: yes |
| 18:39.37 | kd3|netbook | also, yes. an updated addonkit would be very nice |
| 18:39.44 | kd3|netbook | 's been getting some emails about that |
| 18:40.10 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 18:40.11 | Shirik | why so Fisker |
| 18:40.21 | Adys | Fisker: instead of recoding mshtml, wine binds mshtml functions to gecko ones |
| 18:40.37 | Adys | just like instead of recoding .net, it binds Mono |
| 18:44.21 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:44.25 | Fisker | jeg boller dig i numsen |
| 18:44.40 | Fisker | kd3|netbook we get it |
| 18:44.45 | Shirik | adys |
| 18:44.46 | Fisker | you know people at Blizzard |
| 18:44.49 | Shirik | find a reason for me not to use C# |
| 18:45.05 | Fisker | It's not F# |
| 18:45.11 | Fisker | That was one |
| 18:45.14 | kd3|netbook | too much crap (wpf) not implemented in mono? |
| 18:45.23 | Fisker | wpf is awesome |
| 18:46.04 | Fisker | If SCO had won, then they would technically own parts of mac os as well right? |
| 18:46.07 | kd3|netbook | also... I owe jacek a case for getting 1.1 finally in |
| 18:46.26 | Adys | Shirik: it's not portable |
| 18:46.54 | kd3|netbook | ^^^ |
| 18:47.18 | Fisker | port what? |
| 18:47.48 | Fisker | just slipstream .net framework into your windows install |
| 18:49.03 | kd3|netbook | isn't sure he could install windows on this box |
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| 18:49.13 | Fisker | sure you could |
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| 18:50.12 | Fisker | if even an iphone can run windows then you should be able to as well |
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| 18:59.39 | TC-Work | i know this nick is registered you pedantic bot |
| 19:02.13 | Shirik | -Wall -Werrors -Wpendantic |
| 19:02.13 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:02.30 | Adys | pedantics Shirik |
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| 19:05.28 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://www.brevilleusa.com/tea/one-touch-tea-maker.html |
| 19:05.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | mag-lev tea basket |
| 19:07.51 | Shirik | nevcairiel |
| 19:07.54 | Shirik | nevcairiel nevcairiel nevcairiel nevcairiel nevcairiel |
| 19:07.57 | Shirik | you know German right? |
| 19:08.17 | Adys | yes |
| 19:08.17 | Adys | why? |
| 19:09.02 | Shirik | I want to know if this basically says something like "there will be space combat" http://images.betaleaks.org/images/articles/swtor/swtor_scan_pcaction_8.jpg |
| 19:09.02 | alestane | Cide, if I want to create a list with five new sprocket objects in it, is [sprocket() for x in range(n)] the right way to do that? |
| 19:09.19 | Shirik | alestane: Please tell me you have not succumbed to the evil |
| 19:09.34 | Cide | alestane: if you have different sprocket objects, yes |
| 19:09.48 | Cide | if you have the same object, you can do [sprocket()]*5 |
| 19:10.00 | Cide | (which uses the same reference for all fields) |
| 19:10.00 | alestane | I want to call the constructor five times and create five distinct objects, yes. |
| 19:10.06 | Cide | then your way is the best |
| 19:10.37 | Shirik | is this python? |
| 19:10.41 | Cide | yes |
| 19:10.44 | alestane | It is, Shirik. |
| 19:10.48 | Shirik | I'm going to put my hatred aside for a second |
| 19:10.53 | Shirik | wtf is this [] construct |
| 19:10.58 | Cide | list comprehension |
| 19:11.03 | alestane | It's a list constructor. |
| 19:11.11 | alestane | WIth a generator in it. |
| 19:11.18 | Cide | it's a bit more than that |
| 19:11.21 | alestane | (Which makes a list comprehension, yes. |
| 19:11.34 | Cide | it's similar to the mathematical set generation syntax in mathematics, Shirik |
| 19:11.50 | alestane | It's more useful in constructs like [x*x for x in range(10)]. |
| 19:12.04 | Cide | or [x*x for x in range(10) if x%2 == 0] |
| 19:12.31 | Cide | or [x*y for x in range(y) for y in range(10) if (x*y) % 2 == 0] |
| 19:12.32 | alestane | Which will give you the list [0, 1, 4, 9, 16, 25, 36, 49, 64, 81]. |
| 19:12.53 | nicoli_s | shirik:they already said it will have space combat |
| 19:13.04 | Shirik | ok so [] and "for..in" are two separate constructs |
| 19:13.07 | Shirik | which you were using together |
| 19:13.13 | Cide | no |
| 19:13.14 | alestane | They basically are now. |
| 19:13.20 | Shirik | so confused |
| 19:13.34 | Cide | the list comprehension syntax is a separate syntax definition afaik |
| 19:13.44 | alestane | You can use generators to build tuples, sets or dictionaries in current versions, Cide. |
| 19:13.49 | Cide | yes |
| 19:14.01 | Cide | but that's generator syntax and they all take iterables |
| 19:14.12 | nevcairiel | Shirik: it does say there will be space combat, however no PvP, and only short fights, no integral part of the game, just short action bursts |
| 19:14.49 | Cide | Shirik: [val1, val2, val3, ..., valN] constructs an array basically |
| 19:14.55 | Cide | (well, std::vector) |
| 19:15.31 | Cide | you can also use list(<expression evaluating to an iterator>) to iterate and put all elements into the list |
| 19:15.39 | alestane | 2.7 has a full syntax for dictionaries, even: {key:key*key for key in range(10)} would give you a table of squares indexed by the numbers they're squares of}. |
| 19:16.01 | Cide | nice, wasn't sure if it worked for {} or only dict() |
| 19:16.16 | alestane | I think that's only in 2.7 and 3.1 though. |
| 19:16.18 | nicoli_s | shirik:the space combat is gonna be like star fox |
| 19:16.20 | Cide | but there's also list comprehensions, Shirik, which is like the set builder notation of mathematics |
| 19:16.25 | Cide | see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set-builder_notation |
| 19:16.55 | Cide | it brings up list comprehensions in 5.3 |
| 19:17.08 | Cide | alestane: that might explain it... I've only really dealt with 2.5 and 2.6 |
| 19:17.19 | Cide | not much experience with 3.x because django doesn't support it yet :( |
| 19:17.37 | alestane | Conceptually, I'm not sure how much difference there is between a list comprehension and a list constructed from a generator, but it's probably not worth debating. |
| 19:17.44 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 19:18.19 | Cide | alestane: you may be right actually |
| 19:18.28 | Cide | I wasn't aware generator expressions supported the if clause |
| 19:18.38 | Cide | so it may be a united construct |
| 19:19.29 | alestane | What it boils down to, Shirik, is that "[sprocket() for x in range(n)]" is basically an expression-format shorthand for "newlist = []; for x in range(n): newlist.append(sprocket()); return newlist". |
| 19:20.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 19:20.50 | alestane | I think it started as just list comprehensions, Cide, but then they generalized and abstracted it into all kinds of iterables. |
| 19:21.09 | Cide | yeah, probably |
| 19:21.33 | Cide | Shirik: you never explained what you dislike about python besides implicit brackets |
| 19:21.42 | Shirik | the underscores |
| 19:21.44 | alestane | ...implicit brackets? |
| 19:21.44 | Cide | lol |
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| 19:22.12 | Cide | alestane: whitespace as flow control |
| 19:22.17 | Cide | Shirik: why? |
| 19:22.27 | Cide | I think you vastly overestimate the number of underscores in python |
| 19:22.36 | alestane | I'm finding that the good thing about Python is how closely it resembles natural semantics. |
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| 19:22.43 | Cide | I type < or > in c++ way more than I type underscores in python |
| 19:22.49 | Cide | or semicolons |
| 19:22.57 | nevcairiel | I never had a problem with the whitespace thing |
| 19:23.01 | Kalroth | _____Cide_____ __is__ _____totally_____ _________correct_________ |
| 19:23.04 | Shirik | ^ |
| 19:23.07 | Shirik | that's valid python |
| 19:23.12 | Cide | it's valid c++ too |
| 19:23.13 | nevcairiel | It uses the same rules i use for my indentation in all languages |
| 19:23.19 | cog|work | Cide: not really |
| 19:23.21 | Cide | sure it is |
| 19:23.24 | Shirik | it could be cog|work |
| 19:23.31 | Shirik | #define __is__ + |
| 19:23.33 | cog|work | identifiers that start with __ are reserved, no? |
| 19:23.37 | Shirik | oh |
| 19:23.38 | nevcairiel | with C you never know what the preprocessor does with the code |
| 19:23.42 | Shirik | well not exactly |
| 19:23.45 | Cide | it's not valid python anyway |
| 19:23.49 | Shirik | identifiers that start with __ followedby a capital letter |
| 19:23.55 | Shirik | so ______Cide_______ is illegal |
| 19:24.03 | Kalroth | I knew it, Cide is illegal! |
| 19:24.24 | mikma | 1k+ dps at level 66 |
| 19:24.28 | mikma | retardins are retarded |
| 19:24.59 | Ackis | hey Torhal look at ARL |
| 19:25.41 | mikma | Anal Rape League |
| 19:26.07 | rljohn | did you place first |
| 19:26.49 | cog|work | Shirik: double underscore is always reserved. you're thinking of single underscore before a capital |
| 19:26.55 | Shirik | ah, yes I am |
| 19:27.48 | kd3|netbook | rofl |
| 19:27.58 | kd3|netbook | fark: [Dumbass] From the "We've all wanted to do it" file. Man gets drunk and fires round after round into the company server |
| 19:28.40 | Shirik | nice |
| 19:31.42 | Lunessa | Brings a new level of satisfaction to the phrase "The server is down." |
| 19:31.50 | mikma | no.. |
| 19:32.04 | mikma | throwing it into a well means it's down |
| 19:32.11 | mikma | like the miners in chile |
| 19:32.14 | mikma | down down down |
| 19:32.16 | rljohn | too soon |
| 19:32.21 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:32.34 | Fisker | imma tattoo an erect penis on you |
| 19:32.37 | rljohn | that joke is uncool |
| 19:32.43 | rljohn | my two sisters are minors |
| 19:32.45 | rljohn | and i am very offended |
| 19:32.48 | mikma | well boohoo |
| 19:32.59 | mikma | i am a miner also |
| 19:33.56 | Shirik | I mine data a lot |
| 19:34.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I mined your mom. |
| 19:34.25 | mikma | walk the minefields and watch your head rock |
| 19:34.52 | Fisker | rljohn you just pwnt Wobin |
| 19:35.17 | rljohn | whats a Wobin |
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| 19:35.27 | mikma | i call troll |
| 19:35.51 | Fisker | i wonder if imaginary troll porn is illegal in australia too |
| 19:36.04 | mikma | hmm |
| 19:36.14 | mikma | forest troll raping your sisters |
| 19:36.21 | mikma | now thats some image |
| 19:45.47 | alestane | Is it just me, or does defining a formal syntax for pseudocode sort of miss the point? |
| 19:46.08 | cog|work | i'm with you... |
| 19:46.32 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, there's a formal syntax for fake code? |
| 19:46.45 | Fisker | depends if it's written in pseudoformat or not |
| 19:46.48 | alestane | In this intro to programming text there is. |
| 19:47.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: that was, shockingly, actually funny. |
| 19:47.08 | Fisker | it was? |
| 19:47.15 | Lunessa | http://www.lettersofnote.com/2009/12/we-have-message-from-another-world.html |
| 19:47.16 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: crazy |
| 19:47.19 | Fisker | i're winner |
| 19:47.21 | Shirik | alestane: awesome |
| 19:48.02 | alestane | Also, declaring variables in pseudocode seems a little odd; declaring a variable is a functional requirement of code, but it has no associated semantics in the code's task. |
| 19:48.13 | alestane | of some* code |
| 19:48.36 | alestane | And Shirik: http://xkcd.com/353/ |
| 19:55.12 | foxlit | alestane: there is some point, really. |
| 19:55.33 | foxlit | otherwise, "ShortestPath(Graph, source, dest): return a shortest path from source to destination in the graph" is perfectly valid. |
| 19:56.00 | cog|work | it all depends on what level of abstraction you're trying to pseudo |
| 19:56.09 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: its useful for concepts of scope, or if you want to say it has an initial value, etc. |
| 19:56.45 | alestane | Assignment and declaration are two different things, NightHawkTheSane, even if they're often done at the same time. |
| 19:59.03 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: true, but in psudocode its a little munged anyway. |
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| 20:01.01 | alestane | I'm just saying that the purpose of pseudocode as I understand it is to formalize your semantics, and declaring a variable doesn't seem to have any. |
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| 20:02.16 | Arrowmaster` | is attending a job search workshop right now |
| 20:04.39 | Adys | "It couldn't fit within 0-65535, so i made it a float and i multiply every non-integral value by 10." |
| 20:04.58 | Arrowmaster` | Cairenn|afk: "******, Try Facebook's Friend Finder" "***** and Karen have found friends using Facebook's Friend Finder. Give it a try!" lies? |
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| 20:05.33 | Arrowmaster` | Adys: where is that from? |
| 20:05.51 | Arrowmaster` | and dear god i hope its a double and not just a normal float |
| 20:05.51 | Adys | Im taking bets on microsoft code |
| 20:06.42 | Arrowmaster` | since single floats dont handle 1/10ths well at all |
| 20:07.21 | Arrowmaster` | imho the entire would should switch to octal or hex from decimal, then we wont have these issues |
| 20:07.40 | Fisker | the entire would? |
| 20:07.52 | foxlit | On it, Arrowmaster. |
| 20:07.56 | Arrowmaster` | YES THE ENTIRE WOULD!!!! |
| 20:07.59 | foxlit | Just have to develop an 8-finger mutation first. |
| 20:08.08 | Arrowmaster` | are you thinking what im thinking? |
| 20:08.08 | krka | Wuh, I think so, Arrowmaster`, but if we didn't have ears, we'd look like weasels. |
| 20:08.39 | foxlit | grr, google is weak. |
| 20:09.18 | foxlit | Want to install (trust?) a certificate on my w880i, can't figure out just what I have to do to it to achieve that :/ |
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| 20:13.18 | NightHawkTheSane | weee! fire alarm! |
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| 20:16.34 | Shirik | nicoli_s: I've conceded to using C# for my next app |
| 20:16.38 | kd3|netbook | ick |
| 20:16.40 | kd3|netbook | you bastage |
| 20:16.50 | nicoli_s | shirik:good for you |
| 20:16.56 | Shirik | Let's assume for a moment that I'm trying to do something like paint |
| 20:17.01 | Shirik | I'm not, but we'll just assume this |
| 20:17.06 | kd3|netbook | says... as he's using c# for one of his classes >.< |
| 20:17.09 | Shirik | would you advise WPF? |
| 20:17.20 | nicoli_s | hmmm, how fast does it need to be? |
| 20:17.27 | nicoli_s | as WPF does def have a performance cost |
| 20:18.11 | Shirik | sorry nicoli_s I unplugged my phone |
| 20:18.14 | Shirik | (13:16:59) (@Shirik) would you advise WPF? |
| 20:18.17 | nicoli_s | hmmm, how fast does it need to be? |
| 20:18.19 | nicoli_s | as WPF does def have a performance cost |
| 20:18.26 | Shirik | I'm not really too concerned with performance |
| 20:18.34 | Shirik | I'm concerned with ease of drawing |
| 20:18.42 | Shirik | I will have to draw arbitrary things onto a field kinda like paint |
| 20:18.56 | nicoli_s | hmmm, well i honestly havent done enough WPF work to be able to say one way or another honestly |
| 20:19.06 | nicoli_s | whoops, double honestly |
| 20:19.21 | Shirik | that's why I thought windows forms (which I've used in the past) may be a bad idea |
| 20:19.33 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man... |
| 20:19.47 | NightHawkTheSane | "So, mercurial, is it based on top of svn?" -- overheard from a new hire two cubes over. |
| 20:19.51 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 20:19.52 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:19.56 | Shirik | win |
| 20:20.00 | nicoli_s | tell him, no its based on CVS |
| 20:20.27 | Shirik | "what's CVS"? |
| 20:20.37 | Adys | "it's an old version of SVN" |
| 20:21.38 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:34.09 | Kraps | helo dere! |
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| 20:48.25 | Moonwitch | Cairenn|afk: PING! (yep I am yelling lol) |
| 20:49.47 | Lunessa | You logged into just to tell "ping"? |
| 20:50.47 | Moonwitch | not really |
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| 20:51.01 | Moonwitch | but I left her a message on msn - and I don't know if it went through |
| 20:51.05 | Moonwitch | (shakey connection) |
| 20:51.45 | NightHawkTheSane | PING! |
| 20:51.55 | Moonwitch | NightHawkTheSane: PONG! |
| 20:51.56 | alestane | Haven't heard much from you, lady, how goes it? |
| 20:52.05 | Moonwitch | I've been on vacation :( |
| 20:52.17 | Moonwitch | so I feel alienated from the world .... |
| 20:52.17 | alestane | Intentionally? |
| 20:52.22 | Moonwitch | sadly yes |
| 20:52.24 | NightHawkTheSane | vacations should be ":)" :P |
| 20:52.25 | Kraps | next big game-related controversy? http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/8/25/ |
| 20:52.30 | Moonwitch | it's one of my recurring screwups |
| 20:52.41 | Dagmar | Not really |
| 20:52.42 | alestane | Nothing wrong with an intentional vacation, it's the enforced ones that are usually unhappy. |
| 20:52.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: next would imply it wasn't already. |
| 20:53.11 | Moonwitch | well it was this or be home alone for 2 weeks |
| 20:53.23 | Moonwitch | next time, I'm taking the alone time |
| 20:53.24 | Dagmar | Kraps: If they didn't so readily ignore replayability there wouldn't be such an issue |
| 20:53.34 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: wasnt aware of it :) |
| 20:54.14 | Dagmar | I mean, seriously... Most of the games that come out now, with a few exceptions, are not that far beyond just being rail shooters. Play them once and you've seen it all, because they were counting heavily on you _not having seen it before_ to provide suspense and tension |
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| 20:55.40 | Hjalte | Hilarious! http://kotaku.com/5621718/how-to-succeed-as-a-world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-beta-tester |
| 20:56.57 | Dagmar | I'd be snarky and start sending them the bug reports that I've been sending into Lego Universe, but... NDAs... |
| 20:58.21 | Dagmar | bwahahaa |
| 20:58.27 | Dagmar | I love how they're putting talent points in |
| 21:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Hjalte: thats pretty amusing |
| 21:00.50 | Dagmar | "That's why you should have stayed a hunter" >.< |
| 21:04.42 | foxlit | go. |
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| 21:05.49 | Dagmar | They're pretty much taking shots at everyone there |
| 21:06.50 | Torhal | Ackis: Foof. |
| 21:07.09 | Kraps | seen this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnMpOU1LNQ |
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| 21:10.10 | Shirik_ | so nicoli_s, I got owned by my phone |
| 21:10.21 | Shirik_ | what was the call on WPF? |
| 21:10.49 | nicoli_s | i dont have enough experience with it to call |
| 21:10.57 | Shirik_ | ah |
| 21:11.03 | Shirik_ | I think I'm going to try it out |
| 21:11.13 | nicoli_s | but i hear its graphics applications are supposed to be nice |
| 21:12.05 | Kraps | why did blizz change his voice? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2wEcyo7o-Q&feature=player_embedded |
| 21:13.51 | Kraps | wow needs more gay npcs, for diversety |
| 21:13.56 | Kraps | and lulz |
| 21:16.14 | Dagmar | There seem to be plenty of lulz in cata |
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| 21:26.19 | cbreak | strange |
| 21:26.28 | cbreak | starcraft 2 multi player doesn't work in offline mode |
| 21:26.40 | Dagmar | IMAGINE THAT |
| 21:26.54 | industrial | http://abstrusegoose.com/strips/rooster_of_unusual_size.PNG |
| 21:26.55 | industrial | :') |
| 21:27.48 | Dagmar | (Sort of NSFW) |
| 21:28.00 | Shirik_ | cbreak: ....what? |
| 21:28.22 | cbreak | I am annoyed that blizzard's failure to keep their stupid battle.net running prevents me from battling against my friend. |
| 21:28.40 | cbreak | it's down for over 2 mins now |
| 21:29.02 | Shirik_ | I expect this to be a constant point of contention for the next few years |
| 21:29.09 | cbreak | no surprise |
| 21:29.19 | cbreak | ten years ago, that problem didn't exist |
| 21:30.32 | Dagmar | Of course, ten years ago there were thousands of cafes making bank running pirated copies of HL2, CS, SC, and so on |
| 21:33.15 | kd3|netbook | lol indu |
| 21:36.05 | Dagmar | So... in case I wasn't clear enough, you can BLAME GREATER ASIA for this, cbreak. ;) |
| 21:36.17 | cbreak | I blame blizzard |
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| 21:36.22 | A-KO | I blame my company |
| 21:36.31 | cbreak | they are the ones who screwed up my match just before... |
| 21:38.24 | Lunessa | I'm in ur net screwin up ur battlez, lulz. |
| 21:39.20 | cbreak | my net's fine... :/ |
| 21:39.27 | cbreak | everything works besides battle.net |
| 21:39.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ... NOT MAH BATTLEZ! |
| 21:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | cries |
| 21:39.47 | Lunessa | MAH BATTLEZ, they brokeded. |
| 21:41.24 | NightHawkTheSane | I blame the fact that I ran out of free candy |
| 21:41.52 | kd3|netbook | no free candy? khaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!! |
| 21:43.00 | Lunessa | Arther C Clarke is a goddamned prophet - http://www.lettersofnote.com/2010/07/i-told-you-so.html |
| 21:43.43 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Good thing patent trolls weren't around back then |
| 21:44.02 | Dagmar | We would probably just now be getting color TVs |
| 21:44.13 | Lunessa | Actually, I think they were, but his letters and such didn't get wide circulation. |
| 21:45.29 | Xyphoid | he did also predict that we'd have switched to slideways and hovercraft by now |
| 21:45.43 | Shirik_ | ok I have determined while writing this program that the WoW TCG is deceptively complex |
| 21:46.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik_: are you trying to write a wow tcg AI? |
| 21:46.01 | Shirik_ | the rules are so simple until you consider all the sheer number of possible "rule changes" cards can make |
| 21:46.09 | Lunessa | Xyphoid: Lots of people thought slideways would happen. |
| 21:46.16 | Shirik_ | that's the eventual goal, first I have to write something that understands the rules of the game |
| 21:46.28 | Shirik_ | that, in itself. is insanely complex |
| 21:46.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik_: *nod* interesting. And yes, having idly considered similar prospects, I can understand the frustration :P |
| 21:46.55 | cbreak | I've played some other trading card games. |
| 21:46.59 | Arrowmaster | so im sure everybody remembers how extremely introverted and completely socially inept i am right? |
| 21:47.04 | kd3|netbook | isn't that how all TCGs work? |
| 21:47.08 | kd3|netbook | thinks back to his magic days |
| 21:47.11 | cbreak | One even has a "You win" card which you can play :) |
| 21:47.33 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Is this the part where you tell us you managed to talk to a girl? |
| 21:47.33 | cbreak | with lots of strings attached |
| 21:47.33 | Arrowmaster | i think today i won the battle but the war is lost already |
| 21:47.39 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, magic was pretty viscious about that |
| 21:47.43 | Xyphoid | if you can implement the 'target player fetches you a drink' card from that space tcg i'll be impressed |
| 21:48.12 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: yes the super cutie in the post graduate job seeker workshop im attending this week, apparently its a lot easier when youve got more to go on than just "Hi" |
| 21:48.42 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, that often helps. |
| 21:49.20 | Arrowmaster | she even used to play wow during classic and raided, unfortunately she seems to have a boyfriend |
| 21:49.20 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: WOO! You go boy! Did you get a number? Plans to grab a slice of pizza? Or play video games? Maybe friended her on Facebook? |
| 21:49.28 | Lunessa | Oh, poopy |
| 21:49.28 | Arrowmaster | afk plotting murder |
| 21:49.41 | NightHawkTheSane | they always do, Arrowmaster >< |
| 21:51.22 | Arrowmaster | well murder or how to get somebody to wake up in the morning with a hooker in their bed and no memory of the previous night, that would be effective too |
| 21:51.32 | Shirik_ | cbreak: / kd3|netbook: The thing that's really getting me right now is cost to play abilities. IT's easy in concept, until you realize any number of cards could be altering that cost |
| 21:51.45 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: the thing I've found most helpful is dealing with the approach like any other frightening or hard-to-face action. Take a deep breath and plunge in. And pray I don't catch fire, explode or die of embarassment. |
| 21:51.45 | Shirik_ | But from the perspective of the game, you want to be able to just go "ok what's the cost" |
| 21:52.03 | Shirik_ | so I had to break card cost into 3 phases (the first of which could happen an infinite number of times) |
| 21:52.07 | nicoli_s | Arrowmaster:boyfriend shmoyfriend |
| 21:52.30 | nicoli_s | if you love her, which i can tell from your 3 or 4 lines of irc chat you do, you have to stalk her until she loves you back |
| 21:52.51 | Shirik_ | guns and knives help |
| 21:52.56 | p3lim | firefox4b4 is so damn clean |
| 21:52.57 | p3lim | http://p3lim.net/scrot/250810.jpg |
| 21:53.19 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Remind me never to let you have your own advice column |
| 21:53.35 | Shirik_ | notes that Lunessa considered my advice perfectly sane |
| 21:53.48 | NightHawkTheSane | If you're going to go that route, I suggest getting a film crew and making a romantic comedy about it, because in those creepy behavior always ends with hilarious hijinks and you getting the girl. |
| 21:54.02 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: so true |
| 21:54.09 | Xyphoid | http://www.theonion.com/articles/romanticcomedy-behavior-gets-reallife-man-arrested,757/ |
| 21:54.19 | Shirik_ | .... |
| 21:54.35 | Lunessa | Shirik_: Well, guns and knives help lots of things... |
| 21:54.45 | Shirik_ | ah I forgot you're a texan |
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| 21:56.43 | nicoli_s | Lunessa:hey my love advice has gotten at least a few friends into loving relationships....sometimes in jail yes, but love is love man |
| 21:57.01 | Arrowmaster | http://www.news.software.coop/reasons-to-use-cat-unnecessarily/987/ |
| 21:57.22 | Arrowmaster | raise your hand if you have done that before, using > when you ment < or similar |
| 21:57.24 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Yeah, sounds dangerous. |
| 21:57.26 | Arrowmaster | raises hand |
| 21:58.15 | nicoli_s | Arrowmaster:i def expected that link to be about kitties |
| 21:58.44 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: I have TOTALLY done that. For many, many, many tears. |
| 21:58.59 | Arrowmaster | i did it to one of my irc logs |
| 21:59.15 | Arrowmaster | i lost an entire month of either this channel or wowace |
| 21:59.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: yeah, a couple times. fortunately nothing terribly destructive |
| 21:59.58 | Lunessa | All I know is that I can never run for public office. You bastards would post too many logs. |
| 22:00.00 | foxlit | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/12213/GlobalStrings.lua/diff << hurray for this only taking 3.5 seconds :/ |
| 22:00.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah nothing terribly destructive either yet |
| 22:00.14 | Arrowmaster | but im still tempted to enable noclobber |
| 22:00.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: have i mentioned that I will never, ever.. EVER.. be allowed security clearance for anything, EVER? :P |
| 22:01.14 | nicoli_s | i dont think id get security clearance just cuz im a convicted felon |
| 22:01.19 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I used to think that... but the State trusts me with, but I don't think the feds would. |
| 22:01.44 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: what did you do? |
| 22:01.57 | Lunessa | I had to gets a background check for my current job and I was cleared easily. |
| 22:02.03 | nicoli_s | Arrowmaster:vandalism of federal property for more than 10k |
| 22:02.11 | Arrowmaster | oh due tell? |
| 22:02.33 | NightHawkTheSane | One of my friends just went through basic, and so they (well, an independant organization) did interviews of friends/family, etc. Some of the questions they ask.. if they were about me.. would result in an automatic no. :P |
| 22:02.34 | nicoli_s | well its total bullshit |
| 22:03.04 | NightHawkTheSane | things like "has [so and so] engaged in any subversive behavior, associated with socialists, or acted in a treasonous manner" |
| 22:03.08 | nicoli_s | 1.the building was abandoned 2. multiple people had done the damage yet we all got the same charge 3. they tore the building down 2 weeks later |
| 22:03.24 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: You are a socialist. :P |
| 22:03.36 | Arrowmaster | i got calls from a private investigator when my friend was in the running for a possible federal job or job that dealed with federal government stuff somehow |
| 22:03.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i know! I was thinking in my head ".. well he's associated with ME so.. yes?" I didn't say that.. but yeah :P |
| 22:04.12 | Lunessa | Haha- Macarthy-ism is alive and well... |
| 22:04.19 | Arrowmaster | was kinda nervious about what i told the guy because my friend was originally born in russia |
| 22:04.22 | NightHawkTheSane | sadly true. |
| 22:04.42 | Arrowmaster | but hes lived in the US since he was 6 or so |
| 22:05.44 | Lunessa | I was under surveillance for a while due to my involvement in a company that had launch contracts with Russia. |
| 22:06.33 | Arrowmaster | one of my uncles was under surveillance due to the top secret airforce property he was working on that i know details of |
| 22:06.55 | wereHamster | Arrowmaster: not so top secret then.. |
| 22:07.38 | Arrowmaster | mother fucking space shuttles with all the bells and whistles including weapons for destroying small stuff in its path |
| 22:08.16 | durcyn | if someone like me can get cleared, i'm pretty sure anyone can |
| 22:08.28 | durcyn | all you have to do is 1) not owe money, 2) not be an alcoholic |
| 22:09.52 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.46 | Kraps | heyooooo http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1948-Blizzcon-2010-Murloc-Pet |
| 22:12.12 | durcyn | that's hideous |
| 22:12.36 | NightHawkTheSane | wtf. |
| 22:12.41 | NightHawkTheSane | jquery has /two/ .load() methods. |
| 22:12.59 | NightHawkTheSane | http://api.jquery.com/load-event/ vs http://api.jquery.com/load/ |
| 22:16.38 | Shirik_ | ok I know I've missed something here. Holy/Fire/Frost/Shadow/Nature/Melee damage |
| 22:16.47 | Shirik_ | what am I missing |
| 22:17.18 | Xyphoid | arcane |
| 22:17.40 | Kraps | happyfuntime |
| 22:17.44 | Shirik_ | arcane damage sucks |
| 22:17.48 | Shirik_ | but thanks |
| 22:19.21 | Shirik_ | heh |
| 22:19.46 | Shirik_ | "Gigantique" Bag, 4, DkDrHuMaPaPrRoShLoWa |
| 22:20.53 | NightHawkTheSane | "lo"? |
| 22:21.00 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, warlock? |
| 22:21.15 | Shirik_ | I love that last part |
| 22:21.22 | Shirik_ | and yeah I guess lo is warlock since wa is warrior |
| 22:21.32 | Xyphoid | two-letter class codes gives me Bard's Tale flashbacks |
| 22:21.36 | durcyn | if you say it three times into a mirror, you die |
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| 23:31.31 | Shedra | Hi! If I register "PLAYER_LEVEL_UP" it only works for myself. Is it possible to use this when other players nearby or in my group level up? (I want to use an automatic "congratulation" message) |
| 23:37.17 | alestane | You're probably looking for the event UNIT_LEVEL, but also remember that most people can figure out fairly quickly when you're automating something like that, and don't always find it as considerate. |
| 23:39.44 | Shedra | Hm.. okay.. " Fired whenever the level of a unit is submitted (e.g. when clicking a unit or someone joins the party) " so my addon does write the message everytime a unit joins my group? |
| 23:40.04 | Shedra | Hm.. I know ;) We are using it for our 4 man party... we are all leveling together |
| 23:41.41 | Wobin | Shedra: you'd probably be more appreciated if you do it manually for friends =) |
| 23:42.09 | Wobin | personally I'd prefer to know that someone cares enough to tell me congratulations, and not just an auto response =) |
| 23:42.44 | Shedra | I know ;) But we want to post a funny message and playing a sound :) (We all 4 use this addon) |
| 23:42.55 | Shedra | Of course we disable it with other chars :) |
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| 23:45.14 | Wobin | well, if all four of you are using the same addon |
| 23:45.29 | Wobin | why not write one that uses PLAYER_LEVEL_UP and broadcasts it to the others using the addon |
| 23:45.55 | Wobin | so instead of polling UNIT_LEVEL, you're just announcing personal dings |
| 23:46.04 | Wobin | and the addon will then do appropriate congratulations |
| 23:47.00 | Jerub | i saw someone lsat night that seemed to have an addon that did /cheer when they leveled |
| 23:47.43 | NightHawkTheSane | really resists the urge to say "and then you can just go on to have the addon talk to your guild, and hit on that hot-sounding-in-vent-chick-who's-really-a-guy for you, play the game for you, and maybe even go to work for you! |
| 23:47.47 | NightHawkTheSane | " |
| 23:47.48 | NightHawkTheSane | coughs. |
| 23:49.24 | Cide | wtb shirik |
| 23:49.28 | Cide | or Shirik_ |
| 23:50.26 | Cide | Adys: ping |
| 23:50.56 | ckknight | NSFW: http://www.plurchan.org/gif/src/1279895781873.gif |
| 23:51.00 | Adys | Cidan: PONG+ |
| 23:51.01 | Adys | OMG |
| 23:51.10 | Cide | fail |
| 23:51.21 | Shedra | Hmm Wobin.. that should work! |
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| 23:59.37 | Shedra | Wobin: Ah, I just think it isn't possible to scan for level ups near you.. just read something on the curse forums |
