| 00:00.42 | Amarande | headdesks and durrs |
| 00:00.52 | Amarande | apparently I forgot to check off "5-man raid" for the 10 man frame setup I have |
| 00:00.58 | Amarande | and therefore, when there aren't six people yet ... |
| 00:01.03 | Synycyl | <-- uses Grid2 for party/raid |
| 00:01.13 | Shirik_ | amro |
| 00:01.15 | Shirik_ | leaving work now |
| 00:01.17 | Shirik_ | find me in 5 |
| 00:02.46 | Synycyl | So is there absolutley nobody that can tell my why http://pastey.net/139533 the barText:SetText(...); double prints. It doesn't matter if the if-then statements are there or not. sooo |
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| 00:06.25 | Synycyl | damn... i'll ask again in 30 minutes |
| 00:06.36 | Mikk | Synycyl: how about print()ing the results of the loop? |
| 00:06.41 | Mikk | so you see what the input data actually is? |
| 00:06.56 | Synycyl | does print() work to fontstring? |
| 00:07.32 | Synycyl | i see what you mean... debug text to the chat pane |
| 00:07.47 | Mikk | also take a look at what your skill_array contains |
| 00:08.03 | Mikk | if it has 2 of "Some Skill Name", your loop will fire twice |
| 00:08.04 | Synycyl | my skill array contains a list of profession only skills |
| 00:08.17 | Synycyl | nope it has no duplicate names |
| 00:11.11 | Synycyl | ok the prints are showing duplicate prints |
| 00:11.15 | Synycyl | interesting |
| 00:11.24 | Ama|RAID | %#$*@#&*(%# |
| 00:11.31 | Ama|RAID | apparently it's fashionable these days for people to be late for the raid |
| 00:11.45 | Mikk | it is |
| 00:11.47 | NightHawkTheSane | these days? what rock have you been under for the past 10 years.. |
| 00:11.54 | NightHawkTheSane | or, really, the past 5000. |
| 00:11.59 | Ama|RAID | Night: I thought it used to be regarded as mortal raiding sin to be late |
| 00:12.01 | NightHawkTheSane | people have been late to shit since there was shit to be late to |
| 00:12.42 | NightHawkTheSane | as a general rule, if something has a defined starting time or deadline, people will be late. |
| 00:12.53 | NightHawkTheSane | this is not new, or unique to any one activity. |
| 00:13.37 | NightHawkTheSane | (the protip takeaway is to always schedule activities & deadlines earlier than you actually want them) |
| 00:16.08 | amro | NightHawkTheSane: the protip for lazy people is that you can come later than the scheduled time because it doesn't start right away |
| 00:16.19 | NightHawkTheSane | amro: true that ;) |
| 00:16.37 | amro | I wonder how long till we start scheduling things a day earlier. |
| 00:17.26 | Mr_Rabies | <NightHawkTheSane> or, really, the past 5000. |
| 00:17.39 | Mr_Rabies | UG HERE, UG SMASH TINY MAN NOW |
| 00:17.50 | Mr_Rabies | UG YOU LATE WE ALREADY DONE SMASH TINY MAN |
| 00:19.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Mr_Rabies: dude, you KNOW that shit went down. "UG HERE FOR SABERTOOTH KILL!" "UG LOSER, UG LATE, SABERTOOTH DEAD. UG GET NO FOOD." |
| 00:22.18 | Synycyl | Ok this is really getting annoying |
| 00:22.41 | Synycyl | There is still no reason this loop should fire off twice |
| 00:22.54 | Synycyl | But i did discover I no longer needed the onLoad function lol |
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| 00:23.29 | Ama|RAID | amro: you mean like how if you come on time for your doctor appointment you will end up waiting a half hour? |
| 00:24.20 | amro | s/hour/day/ |
| 00:25.10 | NightHawkTheSane | medical appointments are the notable exception, i'm pretty sure your wait time is exponential relative to how late you show up |
| 00:25.38 | Ama|RAID | ... and now we have a ton of DPS spots to fill |
| 00:25.47 | Ama|RAID | how the hell can a raid have enough tanks and healers and be this shy on DPS? |
| 00:27.02 | Ama|RAID | and apparently a couple of our raiders couldn't make it so we had to pug more people |
| 00:27.10 | Ama|RAID | what'd people do, schedule hot dates on raid night |
| 00:27.27 | Mr_Rabies | man |
| 00:27.35 | Mr_Rabies | wowhead is getting its butt kicked by something |
| 00:27.43 | Mr_Rabies | any word as to what has caused this recent slowdown? |
| 00:28.13 | NightHawkTheSane | senator stevens is no longer around to keep the tubes clean |
| 00:28.20 | NightHawkTheSane | it was only a matter of time before they got clogged by all the porn. |
| 00:28.30 | NightHawkTheSane | (too soon?) |
| 00:30.35 | Kraps | if the 4th dimension is time, what does it mean for 4D games/movies? |
| 00:31.03 | Shirik | they don't exist? |
| 00:31.03 | NightHawkTheSane | nothing. |
| 00:31.17 | |Jelly| | It means /0 |
| 00:31.26 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: space and time |
| 00:31.31 | Thunder_Child | or, spacetime |
| 00:31.33 | Kraps | Shirik: right but isnt that the FUTURE |
| 00:31.33 | NightHawkTheSane | (rather, they already exist in the 4th dimension) |
| 00:31.44 | Shirik | what the future? |
| 00:32.02 | Kraps | idk |
| 00:32.23 | Kraps | i thought maybe it'll be the next gimmick like 3d is |
| 00:33.01 | NightHawkTheSane | 3d, while still gimmicky, isn't a complete gimmick, though |
| 00:34.16 | |Jelly| | I wanna play WoW in 3D:( |
| 00:34.44 | Dagmar | You can do that now if you have an nVidia card |
| 00:34.53 | |Jelly| | I know, and do |
| 00:35.01 | Dagmar | It's just not very useful. |
| 00:35.11 | |Jelly| | Just can't afford the $400 monitor and $200 nvidia kit |
| 00:35.24 | Dagmar | You don't need that. |
| 00:35.36 | Ama|RAID | Dagmar: how do you do it? |
| 00:35.38 | Ama|RAID | <--- has a GTS 250 |
| 00:35.52 | Kraps | so whats the difference between 3D and augmented reality? |
| 00:36.01 | Dagmar | You put on your red/blue glasses and tell the nvidia driver to just draw it using red/blue anaglyph |
| 00:36.07 | Dagmar | This is built into the hting now. |
| 00:36.15 | Dagmar | It's been that way for at least two years |
| 00:36.22 | |Jelly| | . . . |
| 00:36.42 | Kraps | nvm that was a dumb question |
| 00:36.44 | Dagmar | Like I said, it ain't real useful. |
| 00:36.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: yes it was. |
| 00:38.07 | NightHawkTheSane | goes home |
| 00:38.24 | amro | Shirik: 5 days you mean? |
| 00:39.12 | amro | ~stab Shirik |
| 00:39.13 | purl | ACTION runs at Shirik with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 00:41.09 | Torhal | Synycyl: Is that function only being run once? |
| 00:42.40 | Synycyl | apparentyl not lol |
| 00:42.48 | Synycyl | I'm gonna give it fresh eyes in the morning |
| 00:42.57 | Torhal | Ok, is it intended to only -ever- be run once? |
| 00:43.00 | Synycyl | that function gets run onLoad and then called for updates |
| 00:43.10 | Synycyl | so no it isn't intended for a single run |
| 00:43.17 | Torhal | You're creating a bunch of frames every time that's run. |
| 00:43.29 | Torhal | Frames are never garbage-collected. |
| 00:44.06 | Torhal | And if you're running it onload and then for updates, it's possible that it's being updated immediately after its first run which is why it happens twice. |
| 00:44.22 | Synycyl | i figured thats what its at, but it Lua doesn't seem to have any way to dynamically create and name frames to make them managable data only... like I said i want a creation function for them then an update function but it almost looks like Lua might be unable to do it |
| 00:44.35 | Torhal | Yes it does. You store them in tables. |
| 00:44.44 | Synycyl | Ok I'll have to look into that then |
| 00:44.49 | Torhal | Rather, you store references to them in tables. |
| 00:45.37 | Torhal | Also, semicolons are completely unnecessary and parenthesis are only necessary to disambiguate. |
| 00:45.56 | Torhal | I came from C/C++ as well, so I did the same thing at first. |
| 00:46.13 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality |
| 00:47.22 | Synycyl | lol |
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| 00:48.22 | Synycyl | Well I will look up collecting them into the tables and what not tomorrow to see if I can figure it up. I'm very happy that I finally got the status bars working, now to simply get them to show one print that gets updated correctly. The only thing that gets me out of it all Torhal is the SetText is the only thing double printing. the bars work flawlessly |
| 00:49.12 | Synycyl | ;) I'll be back in tomorrow if you are around I'll poke at you to see if I can get a little help understand the tables better. Blizzard's documentation blows, wowwiki's is only marginally better. This shit just isn't documented very well.... |
| 00:49.16 | Synycyl | See you all tomorrow |
| 00:49.20 | Singmyr | cya :) |
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| 00:53.35 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9KT4M7kiSw&feature=fvw |
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| 00:59.40 | amro | ~lart Shirik |
| 00:59.40 | purl | takes Shirik to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 01:30.48 | Thunder_Child | http://store.steampowered.com/app/900883/ |
| 01:34.53 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: is it good? |
| 01:35.03 | Thunder_Child | quite |
| 01:35.58 | Kraps | but i havent even started dragon age :( |
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| 01:46.07 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/graphjam/~3/WoOr8w151MA/ |
| 01:51.05 | cloudwolf | Adys i don't evne take it as a challenge and almost always end up doing it last minute lol |
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| 02:23.57 | Kraps | http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/08/06/action-stars-who-arent-as-funny-as-mark-wahlberg/ come on, bruce willis? i think he has excellent comedic deadpannery |
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| 02:29.30 | Iriel | Yay my Max Headroom DVD's arrived! |
| 02:30.56 | smcn | are 2's teams still ineligible for end of season titles? |
| 02:33.55 | Zyn | 3 minutes into the future... |
| 02:35.32 | Iriel | 20, but yes |
| 02:36.01 | Iriel | I'm still amazed it's taken this long |
| 02:40.53 | Kraps | great, my crysis saves are corrupted |
| 02:42.45 | Kraps | and i was near the end too |
| 02:43.30 | Iriel | suck 8-( |
| 02:44.45 | Kraps | i actually enjoyed killing koreans more than aliens |
| 02:46.58 | Singmyr | how do i put a frame into a table and how do i access it? :) |
| 02:47.15 | Iriel | tableName[key] = frame; |
| 02:47.19 | Iriel | tableName[key]:Show() |
| 02:47.26 | Iriel | Like that? |
| 02:48.31 | Singmyr | will try :) |
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| 03:06.40 | Maldivia | hmm, so I see we also get that bot on this server and channel |
| 03:07.18 | Shirik | what bot? |
| 03:07.51 | Maldivia | "person" joining and leaving before I said it |
| 03:09.03 | Maldivia | I've seen random names from that host join on 3 different networks now, and various channels |
| 03:09.34 | Maldivia | looking back over the logs, it's not the first visit to this channel |
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| 03:15.44 | Shirik | that's a bot? |
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| 03:18.05 | Maldivia | seen it on random channels/servers from that host with names like: clochette, jennyf, britneypire, sandra_f, unenana, lauanana, olgagirl |
| 03:18.39 | Maldivia | and a quick google of the host gave me other irc logs :P |
| 03:19.01 | Maldivia | so assuming its a bot of some kind |
| 03:20.25 | Maldivia | and googling those names also gave a ton of irc logs, where they join and quit |
| 03:23.24 | Maldivia | looking over my own logs, have other hosts (all French) as well |
| 03:27.49 | Cralor` | grr..... when is Blizzard ever going to fix OnUpdate! |
| 03:28.01 | Maldivia | whats wrong with it ? |
| 03:28.18 | Cralor` | it doesn't "update" when WoW is the non-active window |
| 03:28.35 | Maldivia | it updates when a frame is drawn |
| 03:28.46 | Cralor` | so your OnUpdate will, in effect, pause until you return to WoW |
| 03:28.58 | Cralor` | no, this functionality existed previously |
| 03:29.30 | Maldivia | you're talking fullscreen mode, and the game is minimized, right? |
| 03:29.34 | Cralor` | yep |
| 03:29.56 | Cralor` | it's not till i return to WoW that, say, a timer will start counting. |
| 03:30.03 | Maldivia | the engine was updated to not refresh the screen when minimized, since it's a waste of resources |
| 03:30.04 | Ama|RAID | yay, about to fight festergut |
| 03:30.12 | Cralor` | damnit |
| 03:30.15 | Cralor` | that sucks |
| 03:30.59 | Maldivia | play in windowed mode then, and just alt-tab out |
| 03:32.52 | Cralor` | ok |
| 03:38.10 | Xyphoid | fullscreen windowed mode is awesome, wish more games would do it |
| 03:39.18 | Ama|RAID | yay, my first piece of ICC raid loot |
| 03:50.41 | Singmyr | gz :D |
| 03:52.40 | Wobin | Cralor`: it's been how it is since forever =) |
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| 03:54.41 | Singmyr | frames[skillName .. "static"] = CreateFrame(bla bla bla and so on); except for the bla bla stuff, is that element accessible from frames[skillName .. "static"] ? |
| 03:54.49 | Singmyr | let's say that frames is empty to begin with |
| 03:54.59 | Iriel | yes |
| 03:56.04 | Dagmar | Oooo... |
| 03:56.38 | Dagmar | A blizzard mail with links to www.worldofwarcraft-subscription-secure.net lemme just go right ahead and click on that. It looks legit! |
| 03:56.56 | Iriel | It says it's secure! |
| 03:59.12 | kd3 | works for me |
| 03:59.17 | kd3 | looks for his credit card |
| 03:59.26 | Dagmar | I so love wget and loops, don't you? |
| 03:59.56 | Dagmar | Actually, lemme be an asshole and mechanize the buggering of this man's little plans |
| 03:59.56 | Kraps | kd3: are you getting secret prize? |
| 04:00.17 | Dagmar | How many garbage entries will it generate? IT'S OVER 9000! |
| 04:00.30 | Dagmar | yay TOR! |
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| 04:04.05 | Kraps | wow, the pentagon in this "lie to me" episode is EVUL |
| 04:04.08 | Ackis | ok anyone with blizz CS support insight? I'm dealing with a Michael, yet I received a customer satisfaction survey for someone named Thomas, and my issue hasn't been resolved yet. |
| 04:04.35 | Ama|RAID | yay festergut and rotface down, time to fight PP |
| 04:04.43 | Ama|RAID | my first ICC ever and I'm already 6/12 |
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| 04:12.03 | Ackis | my fiancee won't let me eat a steak cold :( |
| 04:12.16 | Cide | why is she your fiancee then? |
| 04:12.22 | Cide | s/your/still your/ |
| 04:12.27 | Ackis | I dunno |
| 04:12.33 | Ackis | she's good in bed |
| 04:12.34 | Ackis | and loves me |
| 04:12.43 | Cide | well that's clearly not enough |
| 04:12.49 | kd3 | cold steak? yuck |
| 04:13.26 | Kraps | Ackis: how big are her breasts? |
| 04:14.26 | Ackis | they're size none of your damned business |
| 04:14.50 | Kraps | :( |
| 04:17.03 | Cide | well if you rated her bed performance you can rate her breasts |
| 04:17.33 | Kraps | ^ is what i'm saying |
| 04:17.36 | Ackis | somethings are private |
| 04:17.52 | Dagmar | ...until they're on the Internet. |
| 04:18.08 | Cide | just link to a bikini picture then |
| 04:18.14 | Dagmar | They they generally become AWESOME! |
| 04:18.32 | kd3 | o_O |
| 04:18.35 | Cide | ^ |
| 04:18.42 | Cide | I hope they don't look like that |
| 04:18.53 | Cide | that would be weird |
| 04:19.06 | kd3 | completely not what I was going for |
| 04:19.09 | kd3 | looks for more beer |
| 04:23.24 | Ackis | bestbuy commercials should be required to state "we donated $150k to someone who wants to see gays killed" |
| 04:25.17 | Cide | they are? |
| 04:25.21 | Cide | neat |
| 04:26.01 | Ackis | Cide: http://bit.ly/aR9M49 |
| 04:31.38 | Cide | awesome |
| 04:31.48 | Cide | that's hilarious |
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| 04:35.19 | Fisker | Cide |
| 04:35.23 | Fisker | i'm awesome |
| 04:35.30 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 04:35.35 | Cide | ok |
| 04:36.11 | Fisker | thank you |
| 04:37.40 | Dagmar | Ackis: Seriously? |
| 04:38.08 | Dagmar | (mails the URL to himself for later) |
| 04:40.26 | Ackis | Dagmar: target and best buy donated a combined 250k |
| 04:40.30 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 04:40.32 | Fisker | kd3 kd3 kd3 kd3 |
| 04:40.43 | kd3 | yes fisk-fisk? |
| 04:42.54 | Fisker | why no new beta build? :( |
| 04:43.15 | kd3 | don't ask me. my little birdies are busy trying to get things fixed |
| 04:44.20 | Fisker | i hate your birdies |
| 04:44.45 | kd3 | you shouldn't. they're busy trying to get things fixed. |
| 04:44.47 | kd3 | important things |
| 04:44.49 | kd3 | like beta |
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| 05:01.51 | Fisker | i wish i were important like beta kd3 :( |
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| 05:04.40 | Fisker | i lold kd3 |
| 05:04.41 | Krahg | Anyone who wields a trout as often as I have seen you do it, must be important. |
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| 05:06.27 | Fisker | sweet Krahg |
| 05:07.57 | Krahg | I was hesitant to say anything for fear of getting trout smacked |
| 05:09.16 | Yssaril | slaps Krahg around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:09.18 | Arrowmaster | slaps a trout around a bit with Krahg |
| 05:10.07 | Krahg | how do you emote here? |
| 05:10.25 | Krahg | ; thinks Arrowmaster implied he smells fishy. |
| 05:10.29 | Krahg | that wasn't it |
| 05:10.36 | Yssaril | Krahg: /me |
| 05:10.49 | Krahg | thinks Arrowmaster is calling him a fish. |
| 05:11.05 | Krahg | ah :) thanks. |
| 05:12.23 | Yssaril | you can always let purl do your dirty work as ell |
| 05:12.36 | Yssaril | ~lart Krahg |
| 05:12.37 | purl | gives Krahg a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 05:13.47 | Fisker | i will destroy you Yssaril |
| 05:14.31 | Yssaril | good luck with that Fisker |
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| 05:16.33 | Krahg | ~lart |
| 05:16.51 | Krahg | ~lart hemmit |
| 05:16.51 | purl | hereby declares hemmit a troll |
| 05:17.03 | Krahg | lol |
| 05:18.27 | Krahg | ~karma yssaril |
| 05:18.27 | purl | yssaril has neutral karma |
| 05:18.54 | Krahg | I find that everyone is neutral, is that broken or NYI or something? |
| 05:19.30 | Yssaril | ~karma Fisker |
| 05:19.30 | purl | fisker has karma of 15 |
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| 05:19.52 | Krahg | oh |
| 05:19.55 | Sesshu | whats up |
| 05:20.03 | Fisker | slaps Yssaril around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:21.22 | Yssaril | is getting angry, you wouldn't like him when he is angry! |
| 05:22.44 | Fisker | i could technically just kill you |
| 05:23.01 | Yssaril | could you now |
| 05:27.12 | Krahg | Every player I have met who has the Time-Lost Protodrake isnt even a mount collector and claims to have just happened to come across it by chance (all 2 of them) |
| 05:28.12 | Krahg | I am not a mount collector, but I do want to kill Vyragosa and there are at least 8 others in the zone that have it KoS because they think that will spawn the other one faster. |
| 05:28.43 | Krahg | None want to group up because they are worried they won't get the mount :( |
| 05:29.08 | Singmyr | time for me to sleep, good night! (morning 7:28 pm) |
| 05:29.25 | Singmyr | *am |
| 05:29.36 | Iriel | Krahg: The person I know who has one is the same |
| 05:29.47 | Krahg | There was one in Terrokar my paladin got by mistake trying to do the quest at Cenaian Thicket |
| 05:30.07 | Krahg | Krahg searched for weeks and found the same one dead just outside shattrath four different times |
| 05:30.33 | Krahg | later I read it was being killed by shattrath gaurds and I thought that was a mean trick |
| 05:31.13 | Krahg | but making one KoS because another might drop a mount turns players against you, that's even worse. |
| 05:31.16 | Krahg | lol |
| 05:31.29 | Krahg | I shot it the other day and it got tagged while my arrow was in flight |
| 05:31.41 | Krahg | that made me really sad |
| 05:31.41 | Adys | Oracle sues Google over use of Java in Android |
| 05:31.42 | Adys | lawl |
| 05:32.14 | Shirik | ?? |
| 05:32.15 | Shirik | for what |
| 05:32.22 | Adys | check ars |
| 05:32.28 | Shirik | ars? |
| 05:32.34 | olafski | hah.. cool :P |
| 05:32.38 | Adys | arstechnica |
| 05:32.54 | Krahg | Wow another name I recognize. This channel is great. |
| 05:33.24 | olafski | you recognise ars technica? =) |
| 05:33.48 | laeg | are strenght and stamina equally important for a warrior, in pvp and pve? |
| 05:33.59 | olafski | not in pve obviously |
| 05:33.59 | Krahg | When I look down the list, I see a lot of names I recognize from add-ons I have at least downloaded and read |
| 05:34.04 | olafski | don't know about pvp :) |
| 05:34.21 | olafski | ah :) |
| 05:34.37 | Wobin | this is where all the cool kids hang out |
| 05:34.38 | olafski | even if you did have one of my addons you wouldn't recognise me :( curse won't change my nickname ;P |
| 05:34.40 | Wobin | except Fisker |
| 05:35.04 | zenzelezz | what's your name on Curse? |
| 05:35.07 | olafski | Egrimm |
| 05:35.08 | Wobin | You wouldn't recognise my name, cause my users downloaded my addons years ago =P |
| 05:35.19 | Wobin | (and yet they're still using them!) |
| 05:35.25 | Arrowmaster | mine too |
| 05:35.28 | Arrowmaster | and i hate them all |
| 05:35.43 | zenzelezz | the users or the addons? |
| 05:35.44 | olafski | we were talking about oracle at work yesterday.. were wondering whether they were going to charge license fees for using Java |
| 05:35.50 | Arrowmaster | the users |
| 05:35.58 | olafski | users suck! |
| 05:37.26 | laeg | olafski: and what would you say about the value to each in pve, is there a formula, like sta > str > ap > agi etc? |
| 05:37.36 | laeg | like a warrior AEP? |
| 05:39.03 | olafski | I have no idea.. you should first specify if you're tanking or dpsing :) |
| 05:39.07 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 05:39.11 | Arrowmaster | find a good spreadsheet |
| 05:39.16 | Wobin | I hear google have some |
| 05:39.38 | olafski | as a rough measure I'd say stamina is not important for dps, and strength is very inferior to stamina for tanking |
| 05:39.56 | olafski | of course strength does something for tanks but stamina is much more important |
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| 05:41.49 | Wobin | strength is ap |
| 05:42.10 | olafski | yes |
| 05:42.25 | olafski | except sometimes you get a talent or buff that only increases strength or ap, keep that in mind ;) |
| 05:42.30 | olafski | str is also SBV I think? |
| 05:42.54 | zenzelezz | used to be anyway... not sure what they settled on in Cataclysm |
| 05:43.06 | olafski | http://www.wowwiki.com/Strength#Strength |
| 05:43.09 | zenzelezz | think they tried both strength and attack power as the block-stat |
| 05:43.12 | olafski | yeah not in cata I think |
| 05:43.25 | olafski | weren't they going to make block do a percentage? or was that dodge/parry |
| 05:43.36 | zenzelezz | they are |
| 05:43.48 | zenzelezz | but there was some trickledown anyway, I think |
| 05:44.56 | olafski | anyone care to explain today's XKCD? I get the feeling I'm missing something |
| 05:45.20 | Ama|RAID | yay, two new shinies from ICC tonight |
| 05:45.29 | Amarande | and am I EVER glad I'm frost DW right now |
| 05:45.43 | olafski | you finally got a weapon? :P |
| 05:45.52 | olafski | I reactivated my account last week and went from 1k to 16k gold :-) |
| 05:46.00 | Amarande | olafski: no ... I ended up gaining 71 more hit rating and already had 273 |
| 05:46.09 | olafski | :P |
| 05:46.10 | Amarande | if I was anything else, I'd have to start scrambling to shed hit |
| 05:46.21 | olafski | ohnoes :P |
| 05:46.30 | olafski | I had that with my DK too in ulduar I think |
| 05:46.37 | olafski | couldn't drop enough hit rating so I was like 30 over the cap |
| 05:46.38 | Amarande | olafski: well given that none of my hit is gemmed or enchanted, I wouldn't be able to do anything about it till I got more gear |
| 05:47.21 | Amarande | so we got 6/12, in the end ... a few attempts at putricide and valithria |
| 05:47.29 | olafski | in a pug? |
| 05:48.16 | olafski | I did azjol nerub, nexus and old kingdom! |
| 05:48.21 | olafski | why does northrend have to be so boring >_< |
| 05:48.25 | Amarande | well, it had a guild core but had a lot of pug members |
| 05:48.29 | Amarande | most of the dps were pugs, in particular |
| 05:48.41 | olafski | every time one of my chars leaves vanilla I get bored, then when I reach lvl 71 or 72 I can't take it anymore and abandon them |
| 05:48.49 | Amarande | and I'm game to finish it tomorrow and pretty definitely have an invite for next week too |
| 05:48.56 | olafski | good good |
| 05:49.08 | olafski | maybe I should pug that tonight! |
| 05:49.32 | olafski | 5264 gearscore.. guess not |
| 05:50.19 | Amarande | ehh. I have 4818, had a little less than that before I did ICC10 tonight, and I did fine |
| 05:50.30 | Amarande | actually I was at or near the top of the meters on a fair number of fights |
| 05:50.50 | Amarande | also our raid leader is yet another who's forsaken GS for EG, anyway :) |
| 05:51.51 | olafski | I won't get into a pug with this score though |
| 05:51.57 | olafski | I think.. no clue |
| 05:52.02 | olafski | think I saw people asking for 6k+ yesterday |
| 05:52.08 | Amarande | meh, you need to make the right connections |
| 05:52.09 | olafski | (forgot to leave trade :P) |
| 05:52.09 | Amarande | I did, finally :) |
| 05:52.49 | olafski | I really don't feel like making any connections |
| 05:52.57 | olafski | wow remains a singleplayer game for me, for now ;) |
| 05:53.06 | Amarande | I love making connections with new people |
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| 05:53.19 | Amarande | particularly online since well ... I'm not exactly socially inept or such, *but* |
| 05:53.27 | Amarande | people around here really don't share my interests very much, and tend to be boring to talk to |
| 05:53.55 | Amarande | I can barely even talk sports with them since I'm a Red Sox fan and in the part of CT where most folks are Pinstripes whores :P |
| 05:54.38 | olafski | you could talk about the sport itself instead of the team |
| 05:54.44 | olafski | but I dunno, I'm not a sports fan |
| 05:54.55 | Amarande | If I try to talk books ... well I barely know anyone who's into Kushiel or Wheel of Time or Black Jewels, most folks around here seem to either not read at all or they read pop fiction |
| 05:54.57 | olafski | it just seems to me like all that social stuff is more trouble than it's worth in wow |
| 05:55.10 | Amarande | also |
| 05:55.19 | olafski | I make friends there at times but when they start asking me for stuff I get annoyed |
| 05:55.26 | Amarande | some of my dearest friends are ones I rarely get to talk to outside of WoW anymore, even though I got to know them outside of it |
| 05:55.40 | olafski | if I'm online to play a few dungeons, I'm not online to boost your alt ffs :P |
| 05:55.54 | Amarande | also |
| 05:56.05 | Amarande | I'm really a *very* laid back person by nature, unless something's stressing me out |
| 05:56.13 | Amarande | sooo ... :) |
| 05:56.19 | olafski | really? could've fooled me.. no offense |
| 05:56.41 | olafski | I don't know anyone who plays wow besides my girlfriend :o |
| 05:56.58 | Amarande | most of my guildies are people I knew from the Tar Valon Wheel of Time community beforehand |
| 05:56.58 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 05:57.03 | olafski | either that or they're not admitting it |
| 05:57.03 | Shirik | someone proved P != NP? |
| 05:57.08 | Amarande | (besides, it was an Aes Sedai there who convinced me to try WoW to begin with) |
| 05:57.13 | olafski | shirik: hm I heard something about that the other day.. I thought it was a joke |
| 05:57.18 | Amarande | Shirik: isn't that one of the things you can get a million dollar prize for? |
| 05:57.23 | Amarande | was the prize awarded? if not, it's probably fake |
| 05:57.34 | Shirik | that will take them years to award |
| 05:57.38 | olafski | considering how difficult that problem could be, I imagine it will take a while to verify the proof |
| 05:57.41 | Shirik | last time someone solved one of those it was like 4 years before they award it |
| 05:59.31 | olafski | anywho, off to work, cya :) |
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| 06:01.00 | Amarande | oh, bugger |
| 06:01.03 | Amarande | I'm over the expertise cap now :( |
| 06:02.07 | Amarande | now I'm gonna have to get that second nighttime so I can shed some |
| 06:02.13 | Amarande | besides it being better than liar's tongue for this build anyway |
| 06:03.02 | Dagmar | You are a SUPER EXPERT! |
| 06:06.43 | Amarande | also these two 200 pieces I still have irritate me. |
| 06:07.17 | krka | Shirik: has the proof been accepted yet? |
| 06:07.24 | Shirik | nah |
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| 06:07.32 | Shirik | but it's at least by a very reputable computer scientist |
| 06:07.37 | krka | then old news is old |
| 06:07.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:07.42 | Dagmar | P != NP? |
| 06:07.48 | Shirik | lua> p == np |
| 06:07.50 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 06:07.52 | Shirik | Lua disagrees |
| 06:07.54 | Dagmar | rofl |
| 06:08.09 | Dagmar | That proof was LONG |
| 06:08.12 | krka | did you send a private message to set p and np? |
| 06:08.16 | Shirik | no |
| 06:08.18 | Shirik | p and np are nil :P |
| 06:08.19 | krka | longproof is long |
| 06:08.23 | krka | ah of course |
| 06:08.26 | Dagmar | krka: 200 freaking pages long |
| 06:08.42 | krka | well, if P is the set of empty problems, and NP is the set of empty problems then they're equal of course |
| 06:08.59 | Dagmar | RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! KRKA BROKE MODERN CRYPTO |
| 06:11.49 | cbreak_work | p is not a set of problems, it's the set of languages that are solvable in polynomial time |
| 06:12.04 | cbreak_work | while np is the set of languages that are verifyable in polynomial time |
| 06:12.14 | Dagmar | SSL servers still might start falling from the sky |
| 06:12.22 | cbreak_work | they do already |
| 06:12.27 | cbreak_work | because SSL is a pain to work with |
| 06:12.36 | cbreak_work | there have been many sucessfull attacks on SSL |
| 06:13.06 | cbreak_work | among them social engineering attacks, compromised md5 exploits, and more |
| 06:13.18 | Dagmar | If someone actually does find a significant shortcut to teh np-completeness, probably the best way to publish will be anonymously from somewhere tropical |
| 06:14.20 | Dagmar | ...only associating yourself with the other half of whatever sequence was used to mark the document once the fallout is over and people are no longer wanting to kill you |
| 06:14.22 | Amarande | %#$*()@#$&*()@#&@ |
| 06:14.41 | Amarande | I considered upgrading to the 213 emblem boots as a temporary upgrade |
| 06:14.44 | Amarande | but those have hit on them |
| 06:14.53 | Amarande | which means they pretty much suck for me right now, I'm already a good bit over the soft hit cap for frost DW |
| 06:15.02 | Dagmar | Amarande: Feed the data to Rawr, cross your fingers (or just lol) |
| 06:15.52 | Jerub | Amarande: just spend the money and get the 264 boots |
| 06:16.05 | Jerub | if you don't have money, talk to somoene about learning to use auctioneer bettererer |
| 06:16.09 | Dagmar | I have noticed there's a lack of crafted 264 weapons |
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| 06:16.19 | Jerub | Dagmar: hence the market in battered hilts. |
| 06:16.35 | Dagmar | This upset me greatly the other night as I had my ninth shot of sake and noticed I've got 9k gold |
| 06:16.51 | Dagmar | I was like "OOO! I can buy me a GUN!" |
| 06:17.02 | Jerub | Dagmar: but there are good weapons in the first wing of icc |
| 06:17.12 | Dagmar | Jerub: They have yet to reveal themselves to me |
| 06:17.26 | Dagmar | Spesh since the last two times I was the only hunter on board |
| 06:17.30 | Jerub | Dagmar: uh, there's a tanking weapon off first boss on 10man iirc. midnight sun off gunship |
| 06:17.40 | Jerub | oh, you're a hunter, sorry. |
| 06:17.41 | Jerub | :P |
| 06:17.45 | Dagmar | Oh yeah, I wanna be the hunter running around with a str/sta gun |
| 06:17.57 | Jerub | i wasn't referring to the boe drops |
| 06:17.59 | Dagmar | Granted, it would be more DPS than the one I'm using, but still... Some things are not to be borne |
| 06:18.14 | Dagmar | 12dps is not something you take that sort of gun out in public for |
| 06:18.28 | Jerub | 232 ranged weapon from icc5mans |
| 06:18.33 | Dagmar | Got it |
| 06:18.34 | Jerub | dunno about in icc tho |
| 06:18.50 | Dagmar | I've pillaged everything from ICC 5-mans except the scorpion trinket thing |
| 06:19.21 | krka | cbreak_work: i've seen both languages and problems being used in the definition |
| 06:19.24 | Dagmar | I'm still apparently paying karma after de-rolling on it when it dropped two out of the three times I first went in there and didn't realize it was an upgrade |
| 06:19.25 | krka | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_%28complexity%29 |
| 06:19.33 | krka | Jump to: navigation, search |
| 06:19.35 | krka | In computational complexity theory, P, also known as PTIME or DTIME(nO(1)), is one of the most fundamental complexity classes. It contains all decision problems which can be solved by a deterministic Turing machine using a polynomial amount of computation time, or polynomial time. |
| 06:20.16 | Dagmar | We spent a weekend steamrolling all three of those instances in normal mode for badges |
| 06:21.08 | Dagmar | When someone dropped out, we'd just hit up LFG and keep killing until someone else shows up |
| 06:23.53 | Amarande | wow the gloves from festergut 10 are awesome for a DK |
| 06:24.01 | Amarande | rawr suggests I won't be upgrading these until and unless I do ICC heroic |
| 06:25.12 | Jerub | i did brd last night with a group that had a) no key b) no one that knew the instance |
| 06:25.18 | Jerub | (except that they knew where a few bosses were) |
| 06:25.56 | zenzelezz | they knew, or they had addons that showed it? |
| 06:25.59 | Jerub | one had kittens when we fought someone thought was the 'last boss' and i explained that we were a single locked door from the start of the instance. |
| 06:26.12 | Jerub | zenzelezz: they knew, then got lost and said, "i don't know hwere any more bosses are" |
| 06:26.28 | Dagmar | hahah |
| 06:26.31 | Dagmar | I can see getting lost in there |
| 06:26.39 | kd3 | brd? lost? |
| 06:26.41 | kd3 | unpossible |
| 06:26.51 | kd3 | cringes at the mental map he still has of the place |
| 06:26.52 | Dagmar | Whenever I take a new toon in there I spend a good half hour wandering around going "Right... how the fuck do you unlock that thing again..." |
| 06:27.11 | zenzelezz | I love BRD. Took a while to learn, but it felt so grand |
| 06:27.18 | Jerub | oh, /i/ knew my way around |
| 06:27.20 | Jerub | but i was healing |
| 06:27.22 | Jerub | and level 50 |
| 06:27.29 | Jerub | so i nailed the key quest while i was there |
| 06:27.36 | Jerub | had to explain /4/ times that they had to die to pick up the quest |
| 06:27.47 | Jerub | explained twice 'make sure you hand it in immediately, it's a 2 stage quest' |
| 06:27.56 | Jerub | explained that /again/ when someone linked the first stage of the quest |
| 06:29.44 | Wobin | I know where the bosses are |
| 06:29.56 | Wobin | but I don't know what counts at which level for getting the satchel of goods |
| 06:31.26 | Jerub | Wobin: it's 45-54 |
| 06:31.31 | Jerub | next satchel type is at 55 i think |
| 06:32.15 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:32.25 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59449/lightweight-bio-optic-killshades/?purge |
| 06:32.27 | Adys | yay sockets! |
| 06:32.31 | Adys | datamines Fisker |
| 06:32.52 | Shirik | datamines Adys |
| 06:32.53 | Wobin | Jerub: yes, but which bosses do you kill to get the satchel? |
| 06:33.10 | Adys | datamines Wobin |
| 06:33.21 | Jerub | Wobin: oh, if you queue for prison, it's the first dang boss |
| 06:33.38 | Wobin | I queue random =P |
| 06:33.49 | Wobin | and it never actually says what section you end up in |
| 06:33.49 | Jerub | impossible to tell then :P |
| 06:33.52 | Jerub | unless you're leel 49-50 |
| 06:34.01 | Amarande | zenzelezz: what was fun was the other day when I was trying to guide a guildie and very dear friend of mine through BRD |
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| 06:34.09 | Amarande | and couldn't actually be there with her, since I was running Strath at the time |
| 06:34.10 | Wobin | Jerub: yeah, but the one boss noone ever kills =P |
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| 06:34.22 | Amarande | it is surprisingly difficult to EXPLAIN the path through BRD without being there yourself |
| 06:34.31 | zenzelezz | haha, yeah |
| 06:35.47 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 06:35.48 | Wobin | ugh, Mauradon is worse =) |
| 06:35.50 | Amarande | so is http://www.wowhead.com/item=50811 indeed the very best non-heroic-raid glove for a DPS DK? |
| 06:35.53 | Shirik | I just got an appointment |
| 06:36.06 | Jerub | Amarande: meh, you kill stuff until you find west garrison, then you go east garrison from there, (Any other way is wrong), through the bar, kill stuff until you can get past the bar, then don't stop until you've fought a guy on a throne |
| 06:36.24 | Shirik | Subject: Performance review When: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 4:00 PM-4:30 PM (GMT-08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada). Desription: Don’t worry you kicked ass. We’ll go over just how earthshaking you are. |
| 06:36.43 | Amarande | Jerub: yeah she'd gotten to that point but then I was having trouble explaining to her how you reach the tavern from there |
| 06:36.49 | Amarande | I think she kept going around in circles for a bit |
| 06:36.52 | kd3 | expects to see the following in a few days... |
| 06:37.11 | kd3 | "In this performance review, shirik gets slapped with a pay cut" |
| 06:37.15 | Shirik | :< |
| 06:37.27 | Jerub | Wobin: mara is excellently cut into sections |
| 06:37.28 | Fisker | lol maelstrom crystals |
| 06:37.32 | Jerub | but i've only ever wiped there once |
| 06:37.35 | Jerub | QQQQQ :'( |
| 06:37.58 | Wobin | Jerub: yes, but directing someone ffrom outside in, or to the Princess.... |
| 06:38.23 | Jerub | princess is easy to find if you're doing a satchel run |
| 06:38.27 | Shirik | kd3 why are you so mean to me :( |
| 06:38.30 | Jerub | 'up' |
| 06:38.38 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:38.40 | kd3 | because work's been pissing me off lately |
| 06:38.47 | kd3 | looks for another beer |
| 06:38.47 | Shirik | come work for us |
| 06:39.04 | Fisker | why would work piss you off kd3 ? |
| 06:39.09 | Fisker | it's not like you work for me |
| 06:39.26 | kd3 | thank FSM |
| 06:40.03 | Fisker | LOL |
| 06:40.34 | Fisker | Someone just drove by in a car listening to what i think was Me & My |
| 06:40.35 | Fisker | lol'd |
| 06:41.29 | Shirik | I ain't got nobody |
| 06:41.32 | Shirik | that I can depend on |
| 06:41.36 | Shirik | (just me, myself and I) |
| 06:42.19 | Fisker | btw |
| 06:42.23 | Fisker | why does google hate me? |
| 06:42.32 | Fisker | I don't have chrome to phone on market :( |
| 06:44.57 | Shirik | omg |
| 06:45.00 | Shirik | was that really Vitamin C? |
| 06:45.02 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:45.05 | Shirik | I feel old now |
| 06:45.33 | Fisker | no u |
| 06:45.49 | Shirik | no u |
| 06:45.53 | Jerub | fuuuuuuuuu |
| 06:46.09 | Jerub | i hate windows and auth and ntlm and negotiate and http and adobe and java sooooooo much |
| 06:46.17 | Fisker | i want to penis u Shirik |
| 06:46.26 | zenzelezz | I remember doing human Startholme back in vanilla... we had been in a raid, so we were still a raid group, but only five people. I swear the game kept tossing 10-man mobs at us |
| 06:46.34 | Fisker | what's a startholme? |
| 06:46.59 | Amarande | zenzelezz: didn't strat used to be designed for 10-man, or was that only scholo? |
| 06:47.17 | Amarande | I do know it was considered a big breakthrough when Scholo was first five-manned heh |
| 06:47.34 | zenzelezz | don't recall |
| 06:47.42 | zenzelezz | either way, we were wiping a lot on the casters :-p |
| 06:48.04 | Fisker | they were both raids |
| 06:48.36 | Amarande | heh, it's weird |
| 06:48.41 | Fisker | i remember doing it on my rogue in classic |
| 06:48.45 | Amarande | when you're actually the level for an instance, you welcome the melee mobs and curse the casters |
| 06:48.45 | Fisker | we were 2 rogues |
| 06:48.52 | Amarande | when you're zerging the instance with a solo 80 |
| 06:48.54 | Fisker | the other rogue won _all_ rogue loot :( |
| 06:48.58 | Amarande | you welcome the casters with open arms and hate the melee mobs |
| 06:49.00 | Arrowmaster | zenzelezz: there were no differences in what mobs where in the instance back in vanilla depending on if you were in a raid or not, it was always the same |
| 06:49.24 | Amarande | mainly because the casters basically never connect when you're 80 |
| 06:49.31 | Amarande | but for some reason the melee mobs still almost always do |
| 06:49.37 | Amarande | how much goddamned hit rating do melee instance mobs HAVE heh |
| 06:49.49 | Fisker | btw halp jnwhiteh |
| 06:50.03 | zenzelezz | Arrowmaster: really? We must've sucked then, hehe. Was my first guild, we weren't exactly pro |
| 06:50.35 | Arrowmaster | well the instances were really designed for 5 man back then even though they had 5 man quests |
| 06:50.46 | Arrowmaster | they nerfed them majorly when they made them 5man only |
| 06:51.43 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 06:51.49 | Fisker | stratholme was still a bitch after the nerf |
| 06:52.05 | Arrowmaster | meh i was 5maning both prenerf |
| 06:52.11 | Arrowmaster | in pugs |
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| 06:56.58 | zenzelezz | I was never much into PvP... during BC, did people actually do Halaa (or whatever the thing in Nagrand was called), or was it a not quite successful attempt? |
| 06:58.33 | Dagmar | On my server you basically took over Halaa if you wanted to buy something. |
| 06:58.39 | Amarande | zenzelezz: it was fairly popular, but not a huge focus like Wintergrasp is now |
| 06:58.40 | Dagmar | That was pretty much the thing that kept it changing hands |
| 06:58.46 | zenzelezz | at least Wintergrasp seems more successful, eventually... though they struggle(d?) to balance it |
| 06:59.33 | Amarande | I think one thing that kept it from being more popular was that IIRC they only had ground mounts |
| 06:59.41 | Amarande | the rewards in WG are a lot better, even not counting VOA |
| 07:00.25 | zenzelezz | I'm curious to see what the Cataclysm world-PvP attempt(s) will turn out like |
| 07:01.28 | Amarande | well |
| 07:01.32 | Fisker | i just camped that thrown weapon you could buy at the vendor |
| 07:01.34 | Amarande | this time I've heard they're making tol barad not just the new wg |
| 07:01.39 | Amarande | but also a big dailies hub |
| 07:01.40 | Fisker | or was it the 2hander? |
| 07:01.45 | Fisker | can't remember :( |
| 07:01.53 | Amarande | which made me kinda worry about cata, since I really don't want to have to participate in pvp |
| 07:02.36 | Amarande | I do the Grizzly Hills PvP quests on some characters (particularly DKs since it's the only real opportunity to pick up a sigil beyond the starter one and before hitting 80) but those don't really involve all that much actual PvP anyways |
| 07:03.10 | cbreak_work | usually I was the only human in a radius of at least 100 units when I did those |
| 07:03.21 | cbreak_work | and I don't mean in-game humans... |
| 07:03.28 | Amarande | heh |
| 07:03.39 | Amarande | I think I did see an Alliance character or two, but they ignored me |
| 07:03.49 | Amarande | I don't think they wanted to mess with Vladoka |
| 07:04.09 | Amarande | especially since I'm pretty good with my class, too (and was several levels above them, since I usually don't even hit GH till 77-79 or so) |
| 07:05.48 | zenzelezz | I remember in WotLK, in Icemist Village, I accidentally Thunder Clapped or Demoralizing Shouted a flagged horde. Ended up standing around and letting him kill me (or more specifically, sitting down with my back turned, since I was tank specced and in tank gear) |
| 07:06.12 | zenzelezz | my new guild for WotLK made me lose my 0 HK stat by doing VoA :-( |
| 07:06.17 | cbreak_work | if I'd do that, the newbies would kill themselves on my molten armor |
| 07:09.22 | zenzelezz | I had fun doing the BB-gun achievement last christmas... since I'd already lost my 0 HK stat, I just charged into Ironforge, and while I did die once or twice, I took at least four unfortunate players with me... mostly 60-65 players, but one 80 DK that must have just really sucked |
| 07:10.07 | zenzelezz | he's like IMMA DEATH GRIPS YOU BACK and I'm like k, Concussion Blow. He tries to run away, I Charge him and shield bash, etc. He must've thought I wouldn't fight back |
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| 07:11.23 | Amarande | zenzelezz: shield bash? isn't that useless against a DK? |
| 07:11.32 | Amarande | I don't think we HAVE skills with a cast time that you can interrupt o.0 |
| 07:11.49 | Amarande | well except army of the dead anyway, and who uses that in pvp |
| 07:13.36 | zenzelezz | you don't need to interrupt anything to daze them |
| 07:13.56 | zenzelezz | but this was many months ago, I may misremember the skills... either way, he died trying to escape |
| 07:14.33 | zenzelezz | and the poor 40-something shaman who tried to mess with me and ended up running away, is so fun to use Heroic Throw on those |
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| 07:26.18 | Fisker | kills cralor, ensures twice the enjoyment |
| 07:31.48 | Krahg | Happy Birthday Cralor |
| 07:31.59 | Krahg | Is that a player in the channel? |
| 07:34.15 | zenzelezz | he's in here sometimes |
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| 07:42.09 | the-golem | umm |
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| 07:42.34 | the-golem | is anyone having problems uploading to WoWI? |
| 07:43.04 | the-golem | I'm trying to upload a new addon, but the category list is blank |
| 07:44.33 | the-golem | and since i cannot select a category, i cannot upload |
| 07:45.12 | Torhal | I see the list |
| 07:45.13 | Krahg | I don't know what to say since I am not really an admin, but I will look and test to see if I have the same |
| 07:45.28 | Krahg | did you try a different browswer or empty your cache and try again ? |
| 07:45.48 | Krahg | Where I live switching browsers fixes a lot of things... |
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| 07:47.50 | Krahg | on the page that says 'Upload and Update' there is a frame that is labeled 'Upload New Interface/Addon' with a dropdown list |
| 07:47.58 | Krahg | for me that list is populated |
| 07:48.18 | Krahg | I am using Firefox, do you want the version number The-Golem? |
| 07:48.53 | Krahg | Oh Torhal is talking to you, I think he is important so I will leave you alone. |
| 07:49.12 | Torhal | Krahg: Huh? |
| 07:49.23 | Torhal | scratches his head. |
| 07:49.32 | Krahg | You are an admin right? |
| 07:49.40 | Torhal | Not for WoWI :) |
| 07:49.53 | the-golem | Krahg: i've got firefox also |
| 07:50.01 | Krahg | I am certain I saw your name next to something with kaltein and Akis |
| 07:50.08 | the-golem | umm, FF4b3 though >.< |
| 07:50.13 | Torhal | That was on WoWAce/CurseForge |
| 07:50.36 | Krahg | Oh :) well then I will still help as much as I can |
| 07:50.37 | Synycyl | Hey Torhal you remember me... The guy with the double printing status bars on his addon? |
| 07:50.58 | Krahg | FF4b3? |
| 07:51.11 | Torhal | Synycyl: Yah |
| 07:51.33 | the-golem | Kaelten: yes, Firefox 4, beta3 |
| 07:52.09 | Synycyl | any chance I could get a private chat with you to get your help on the table stuff... I've gotten the skill data broken out into tables, but now I'm hung up on how to get the frame data in tables and easily manipulated |
| 07:52.14 | the-golem | sorry |
| 07:52.19 | the-golem | Krahg* |
| 07:52.29 | the-golem | Krahg: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/beta/ |
| 07:52.39 | Krahg | I will download that to try it out, but I am using 3.6 |
| 07:52.47 | Krahg | Give me a minute so I can test it for you. |
| 07:52.54 | Torhal | Synycyl: Sure. |
| 07:53.58 | the-golem | it's not working for me on IE8 either ^.^ |
| 07:55.52 | Krahg | well, firefox beta just hung and crashed for me. |
| 07:56.38 | Krahg | it wants to replace firefox 3.6 ... that's not good. Oh well give me a minutes. |
| 07:58.03 | Krahg | ok in firefox 4 beta 3 I see the list Golem |
| 07:58.17 | Krahg | do yu have javascript and cookies enabled? |
| 07:58.45 | Krahg | also closing the browser, empty the cahce/history and cookies might reset it. |
| 07:58.56 | Krahg | beyond that I have little to offer |
| 08:00.52 | Krahg | except: Firefox 4 beta 3 looks like Opera and I do not really care for it. It's a shame they are going in that direction. At least the beta browser has a feed back button I can use before I fix it. :) |
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| 08:06.58 | Krahg | lol, the firefox beta cleared out EVERYTHING I had. No more bookmarks, no more passwords, no more anything |
| 08:07.51 | Krahg | That's not fun... It does have a feed back button and they are labeled 'Firefox made me happy becasue' and 'Firefox made me sad because...' I like those. |
| 08:08.26 | Krahg | Anyway I am sorry I was not able to do anything for you the golem. I tested it and it does seem to work here. |
| 08:10.13 | Krahg | Are you even still here? |
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| 08:10.54 | zenzelezz | pokes the-golem |
| 08:11.15 | the-golem | owch! |
| 08:11.25 | the-golem | Krahg: thanks, i'll check it out |
| 08:12.01 | Krahg | Do you have a second computer? You could try it on a second computer. I have a mac if you want me to go test it there. |
| 08:12.16 | the-golem | Krahg: no, i dont. |
| 08:12.29 | Krahg | So far it's working for me on Opera, Firefox 3.6, Internet Exploror and Firefox Beta |
| 08:12.43 | the-golem | alright |
| 08:12.54 | the-golem | brb |
| 08:13.12 | Krahg | All that is on Windows 7, I can test on Linux (ubuntu) and Mac os X |
| 08:13.21 | Krahg | ok |
| 08:14.14 | Krahg | *sigh* I would have liked to see that work out for him :( I am not sure what else we can do until one of the admins comes around that can test the actually site. |
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| 08:15.55 | zenzelezz | it sounds like a weird issue |
| 08:16.34 | Krahg | If there were an Admin scrolling back to read this, the login feature on wowinterface.com is difficult to locate, after finding a page that has a login on it, it's near the middle of the page in a column of other stuff making it hard to pick out quickly. |
| 08:17.21 | Krahg | I would enjoy seeing a log-in button on the front page and the log-in box located more toward the top (perhaps in the upper right hand corner) |
| 08:17.52 | Krahg | Probably just me though, so not a big deal. |
| 08:17.54 | Krahg | :) |
| 08:18.35 | zenzelezz | what page are you on? |
| 08:18.39 | Krahg | Zenzelezz, it does sound odd. |
| 08:18.58 | zenzelezz | when I go to the Community tab, the login box is in the middle of the right column, fairly visible - but maybe I'm just used to it |
| 08:19.29 | Krahg | from the landing page at www.wowinterface.com I tried the register button first (this would have been a nice place for a login button) then clicked a tab called community |
| 08:19.39 | Krahg | so I am on http://www.wowinterface.com/community.php |
| 08:21.01 | Krahg | It's two columns for me with a lot of information on the right hand side and the log in box is in the middle of that colomn, it appears obscure. partially because the text boxes are a similar grey color to the rest of the page, when I am expecting to find White Text boxes. |
| 08:21.56 | zenzelezz | I'm probably just used to where it is |
| 08:21.56 | Krahg | does the color obscurity I am describing make sense? What I mean to say is I expect white text boxes to jump out of the page and get my attention, and scanning over the page the grey boxes really don't get my attention. |
| 08:22.23 | zenzelezz | I know what you mean at least |
| 08:22.30 | Krahg | perhaps. The truth is I actually only logged in today for the first time since I logged in around two weeks ago. |
| 08:22.47 | Krahg | so it's not like I need to find the log in box a lot. I am just saying, that's all. |
| 08:23.44 | zenzelezz | I'm sure they value all input, but it may be better if you make a post in the feedback forum |
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| 08:23.56 | Krahg | I was just looking for one of those :) |
| 08:23.59 | the-golem | umm |
| 08:24.05 | Krahg | Oh he came back! Hi again ! |
| 08:24.06 | the-golem | Krahg: its not a browser thing |
| 08:24.11 | the-golem | i can't even access my own addons |
| 08:24.32 | Krahg | Are you logged in? |
| 08:24.50 | the-golem | somehow my authorship got revoked? |
| 08:24.52 | the-golem | Yes |
| 08:25.10 | Krahg | Can you completely log out, clear your cache and cookies, then download your add-on as a normal user? |
| 08:25.44 | Krahg | 'somehow my authorship got revoked' ... what would cause you to say that? Did you get a letter? |
| 08:25.44 | the-golem | oh you know what |
| 08:25.49 | the-golem | i changed my email |
| 08:25.59 | the-golem | and i don't think i've verified it |
| 08:26.01 | the-golem | ^^ |
| 08:26.11 | zenzelezz | tsk |
| 08:26.27 | Krahg | hmm, there is a thought to try Golem |
| 08:27.16 | Krahg | I could try change my email and see if that does anything... but I am already confused at my email addresses |
| 08:27.26 | the-golem | Krahg: that was definately it |
| 08:27.48 | Krahg | I have two similar one is (my_name@asever) and the other is (myname@aserver) |
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| 08:27.54 | Krahg | so it's fixed? |
| 08:28.18 | zenzelezz | is it the same server or two different ones? |
| 08:28.48 | Krahg | same server, same names, almost identical except one has an underscore in it and the other does not. |
| 08:29.07 | Krahg | what a bizzare stroke of fancy huh? |
| 08:31.14 | Krahg | I participate in one particular forum that turns out to draw stalkers to me in the game, so I changed my ID there from a real character to an imaginary one. |
| 08:31.25 | Krahg | if that makes sense |
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| 08:33.46 | Krahg | I guess he said it was fixed. |
| 08:33.57 | Krahg | How can I go see what his new addon is ? |
| 08:34.47 | Krahg | ~purl what is the-golem's addon called |
| 08:34.48 | purl | Krahg: what are you talking about? |
| 08:34.58 | zenzelezz | once approved, it should show up fairly quickly on the "new addons" list on the right bar |
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| 08:36.08 | Krahg | I have a new idea, and I can't find anything similar, but the actual xml file is going to be more complicated than the one I have now |
| 08:36.31 | zenzelezz | what's the idea? |
| 08:37.08 | Krahg | I used to have a program called Visual Basic that let me just draw the interface, xcode has something similar too. IS there anything for wow interface drawing? |
| 08:37.53 | zenzelezz | think there's been a WoW UI Designer or something (program, not addon). Don't know if it's still around or current |
| 08:38.03 | zenzelezz | think it worked for some things, not so well for others |
| 08:38.40 | zenzelezz | think someone was working on an in-game thing a while ago, but can't remember who. Haven't heard about it for some time now |
| 08:38.44 | Krahg | Well for instance, my addon adds buttons to a frame |
| 08:38.45 | Torhal | It's still around. Every once in awhile the author asks in the forums if people still use it. |
| 08:39.22 | Krahg | and to get those buttons there and where I wanted and the right size I had to write the file then load it and adjust the numbers and hit reload ui again |
| 08:39.33 | Torhal | Yup. |
| 08:39.42 | Krahg | (i have a macro for /run ReloadUI() so I do not have to retype that all the time) |
| 08:39.58 | Krahg | Seems like there shuold be a better way, because that's tedious. |
| 08:40.02 | zenzelezz | Krahg: an addon like that might be better made with just lua |
| 08:40.10 | zenzelezz | then you could do it on the fly, no reloading, but would be complicated |
| 08:40.11 | Krahg | and my add-on is really simple too |
| 08:40.30 | Krahg | I can not imagine how some of these huge add-ons managed it. |
| 08:40.43 | zenzelezz | start small |
| 08:40.54 | Torhal | Once you do it for awhile, you get a knack for knowing how far to adjust by. |
| 08:40.57 | Krahg | Even if I did it even in the Lua file, I have to tell it where to put those buttons and stuff |
| 08:41.13 | Krahg | I don't mind the xml file |
| 08:41.24 | Krahg | once I got the first button right the other two were kind of easy |
| 08:41.34 | Torhal | When I was re-doing ARL's GUI, I got rather good at getting adjustments right after the first reloadui |
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| 08:42.16 | zenzelezz | yeah, you get a sense of unit size |
| 08:43.16 | Krahg | I change resolutions a lot too, but I finally fixed it so resolution doesn't effect my buttons anymore |
| 08:43.39 | Krahg | when I am raiding or primay 1 char I have a nice resolution with good graphics and small scale |
| 08:43.41 | Torhal | Parenting should take care of that |
| 08:44.00 | zenzelezz | parenting should take care of a lot of things, but look at today's youth |
| 08:44.14 | Krahg | when I am solo double or teible boxed I turn everything WAY down so I don't have to run more than one computer |
| 08:44.52 | Krahg | Hold on , I think I am using that if I understand correctly. |
| 08:45.45 | Krahg | when i did the button, I put the name="cccc" and then parent="another frame" |
| 08:45.49 | Krahg | is that parenting? |
| 08:46.14 | Krahg | the version I never oploaded, didn't have that |
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| 08:47.04 | Krahg | it was actually a lot more complex, it had an event that waited for the frame to open then drew the button over the frame, if you opened an second frame and the first one 'slid' over |
| 08:47.09 | Krahg | the button didn't move with it. |
| 08:47.26 | Krahg | also if you chance resolution at that time, the button didn't move |
| 08:47.31 | Krahg | but now it does |
| 08:48.13 | Krahg | and all the stuff I had go when the frame opened is basicly condensed down to that line where I say parent="ccc" |
| 08:48.50 | Krahg | my new version doesn't even have any events in it at all. |
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| 08:50.34 | Krahg | I bet my old version would have gotten me a beta key because it was complex, but I am worried when they finally review my new version it will be too simple :( |
| 08:51.20 | zenzelezz | I don't think they review it much... but that's speculation :-) Didn't look into what it takes |
| 08:51.21 | haste | less is more |
| 08:51.31 | Grum | more with less is even more! |
| 08:52.01 | zenzelezz | "less is more, more or less" |
| 08:52.20 | Grum | ;) |
| 08:52.21 | Krahg | Well to be honest I was happy that the orginal one did what I wanted |
| 08:52.30 | Grum | Krahg: what kind of addon are you making anyhow? :) |
| 08:52.59 | Krahg | but I am so much proud of the seconds one. |
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| 08:53.33 | Krahg | the one I have only adds a couple of buttons to the main merchant window, then when you click the first button it sells everything you have that is grey |
| 08:53.48 | Krahg | the next button lists all the items that vendor has that are limited quantity. |
| 08:54.16 | Krahg | and the last button will buy all of them if you hold the alt key down... which will make you a l ot of gold in some cases |
| 08:54.30 | Krahg | I made around 4,000g this week with the last button |
| 08:54.36 | Krahg | so far |
| 08:54.41 | Krahg | not done yet |
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| 08:55.08 | Grum | so what did you buy which was worth 4k? :p |
| 08:55.12 | Krahg | but the trick there is that I found a vendor that sells ALOT of limited items but is camped by many people who also want it |
| 08:55.26 | Krahg | hold on a second grum I willget you a link |
| 08:56.07 | Grum | the only one i can remember is the caravan guy |
| 08:56.19 | Grum | mm there was another one with some recipies useful for JC/BS iirc |
| 08:56.30 | Krahg | it's nice there, but never camped really |
| 08:56.31 | Krahg | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=14846 |
| 08:56.35 | Krahg | this one though |
| 08:56.55 | Krahg | it has frost lotus for 4 gold for instance and everything is sells is well below the list value |
| 08:57.04 | Krahg | but camped heavily |
| 08:57.28 | Krahg | so every 15 minutes you open the window and alt click my button and you can buy everything faster than the other campers |
| 08:57.48 | Grum | hehehe |
| 08:58.05 | Grum | frost lotus for 4g that is about 11g profit on that :) |
| 08:58.08 | Krahg | until this week I didn't know about that vendor, but I used it for stuff in other places. I basicly click the list items button on every vendor |
| 08:58.23 | Krahg | I sold mine for 22g each... |
| 08:58.43 | Krahg | but yeah, on my realm it vaires a lot sometimes 10g each sometimes 25 g each |
| 08:58.57 | Krahg | but 11g is still pretty nice for click a button |
| 08:59.23 | Krahg | I am working on exceptions now, I had it working on the mac before I switched to a PC |
| 08:59.40 | Krahg | but I deleted the version with exceptions and need to start over again |
| 08:59.50 | Grum | hehe |
| 09:00.04 | Krahg | exceptions what I mean is for instance if it's a copper modulator do not buy that |
| 09:00.15 | Grum | aw dang i hoped pilgrims bounty and darkmoon would overlap :( |
| 09:00.18 | Krahg | or inscription pouches from inscription suppliers |
| 09:00.52 | Krahg | inscriptionn pouches are boggling, why would anyone buy a 10 slot bag that only holds inscription? |
| 09:01.06 | Krahg | 32 slot bags are less than 50g each |
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| 09:01.25 | Grum | never even knew that thing had a vendor like that :D |
| 09:01.35 | Grum | with 'thing' being darkmoon faire |
| 09:01.35 | Krahg | that thing? |
| 09:01.46 | Krahg | oh yeah I read about it before |
| 09:01.57 | Krahg | and assumed it was 1 limited item every couple of hours |
| 09:02.08 | Krahg | it's actually 3 pages of items every 15 minutes |
| 09:02.36 | Krahg | Herbs, leather, well click the link wowhead is awesome |
| 09:02.37 | Krahg | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=14846 |
| 09:02.55 | Grum | and people actually camp it? |
| 09:03.17 | Krahg | there were two or three other players there while I was there |
| 09:03.28 | Grum | guess its low-cost money :) |
| 09:03.30 | Krahg | I was only there for a couple of hours off and on for the last day |
| 09:03.54 | Krahg | arctic fur for 12 list on the AH commonly for 60g |
| 09:04.29 | Krahg | I have mistakenly led one chatroom into the topic of the other chat room I am in :) |
| 09:04.56 | Grum | ;) |
| 09:05.20 | Krahg | I love gold farming |
| 09:05.43 | Grum | depends on the gold/hour for me :P |
| 09:05.55 | Grum | i can do some pretty mindless tasks but it better be rewarding ;) |
| 09:06.11 | Krahg | i have one who plays about 15 minuts a day and makes about 800-1500g a day |
| 09:06.32 | Grum | doing what? selling gems? |
| 09:06.36 | Krahg | that's 2400-6000 an hour |
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| 09:07.00 | Grum | so i guess you are goldcapped then? :) |
| 09:07.06 | Krahg | that one concentrates on netherweave bags, frostweave bags, hatchling pets and buying tradegoods and relisting them |
| 09:07.44 | Krahg | I never got one so far along that he got the error message, but I have one account that has characters over 200k |
| 09:08.09 | Krahg | I think krahgs account has around 50-100 right now |
| 09:08.35 | Krahg | I have to put all the gold together and add it up I guess, but I have spent ALOT of gold on that account |
| 09:08.54 | Krahg | I got Jania's Locket for arund 20,000g for instance |
| 09:09.18 | Krahg | I bought ever boe 264 healing and tanking item for my paladin |
| 09:09.28 | Krahg | bought lots of primordial saronite |
| 09:09.47 | Krahg | stuff like that so I spend on that account a lot of what I get |
| 09:11.05 | Krahg | around febuary I had less than 1000g though |
| 09:11.21 | Krahg | on the little mage I had around 200g a few weeks ago |
| 09:12.45 | Krahg | I must leave for a few minutes, but I will return after a few mintues. |
| 09:14.02 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://www.betanews.com/article/This-is-big-Oracle-claims-Android-violates-its-Java-patents-sues-Google/1281675545 |
| 09:15.27 | krka | patents are the shit |
| 09:18.38 | Kalroth | I want a parent on breathing! |
| 09:18.41 | Kalroth | er, patent |
| 09:18.57 | Kalroth | cuts his finger for that typo |
| 09:20.24 | krka | you mean a patent for "A system that assists in the exchange of gases in a biologically engineered unit by compression and decompression" |
| 09:21.21 | Krahg | I am back |
| 09:21.58 | Krahg | Gold Farming and Gold Selling are not the same> I am not a gold seller. These days gold seller is pretty much the same as hacker. I am not a hacker. |
| 09:23.08 | Krahg | I thought I should point that out, because I get called names sometimes by people who do not understand the difference. |
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| 09:30.42 | Krahg | well now everything has become quiet |
| 09:31.25 | Fisker | i am going to kill you Kalroth |
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| 09:39.48 | Krahg | You seem like a violent person Fisker |
| 09:40.11 | Krahg | Were you loved as a child? |
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| 09:45.08 | zenzelezz | Fisker was never a child; he was assembled from the remains of formerly successful trolls |
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| 09:50.10 | Torhal | kneecaps Fisker with frozen yogurt. |
| 09:51.09 | zenzelezz | careful |
| 09:51.19 | zenzelezz | if you strike him down, he will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine |
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| 10:00.00 | Spejnar | I get "attempt to index ChatFrame a nil value" when using ChatFrameEditBoxTemplate for my editbox |
| 10:00.21 | zenzelezz | what name did you give it? |
| 10:01.01 | Spejnar | editbox1, the error is to be on row 3306 in the ChatFrame.lua file |
| 10:03.05 | zenzelezz | if an error pops up when you're using a default UI template, I think it usually means you're using it incorrectly somehow |
| 10:03.42 | Spejnar | probably, tried inheriting from it due to my editbox not being visable but ill try to add a tecture attribute in the xml file and see if that works |
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| 10:28.48 | Krahg | My alarm went off and said it was time to come to stormpeaks for a rare, but it was dirkee again :( |
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| 10:31.30 | Lothaer | hey guys and gals |
| 10:31.34 | Krahg | Hello |
| 10:32.28 | zenzelezz | ahoy |
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| 10:38.18 | Lothaer | anyone here familiar with the cursesvn? |
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| 10:47.01 | Spejnar | Anyone know a good addon with large "unitbars" that dont jump around like freaking ppl on acid while also showing a cast bar? Notice I cant keep track of gladius 24/7 so I need some good bars to help me out |
| 11:00.15 | Krahg | I am sorry, Spejnar I do not. |
| 11:01.44 | Spejnar | np, Im trying tidy plates again, didnt have time to set them up lastnight while playing arena at the same time. Worse problem is when you face a shaman which means there are atleast 8 bars switching places, trying to target the tremor or the shaman without using gladius is freaking impossible |
| 11:07.09 | Elkano | any EU hooker that would jump ingame for a ginvite? |
| 11:11.23 | amro | no but i'm sure they'd jump ingame for 20 euros |
| 11:15.11 | zenzelezz | that could make for some interesting RP... "Yes, guild master!" |
| 11:18.04 | Krahg | may I use SendMessageAddon() to send a table as the message? |
| 11:29.18 | Legorol | Krahg: you are able to send any text string. It is up to you how you encode your table into a string and back. |
| 11:29.42 | Singmyr | what's the best performance monitoring addon right now? |
| 11:31.09 | Singmyr | nvm |
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| 11:52.39 | zenzelezz | http://www.picshag.com/show.php?f=pics/072010/i-see-what-you-did-there-big.jpg |
| 11:56.57 | mitch0 | if it's a cat, I'll hate you |
| 11:57.14 | mitch0 | and it's a friggin cat... |
| 11:57.15 | Krahg | If I can put a button on the MechantFrame with parent="MerchantFrame"... why can't I put a button on the MacroFrame with parent="MacroFrame" |
| 11:57.20 | mitch0 | I hate you zenzelezz |
| 11:57.37 | Krahg | is it because there is a macroframe, but not a file in the framexml? |
| 11:57.39 | Arrowmaster | Krahg: because the macroframe is in a LoD addon |
| 11:57.50 | Krahg | what is LoD? |
| 11:57.58 | Arrowmaster | Load on Demand |
| 11:57.59 | Krahg | load on demand? |
| 11:58.01 | Krahg | oh |
| 11:58.49 | Arrowmaster | youll need to make your addon require the macroframe addon, or stop using xml and create the frame in lua when the macroframe is created |
| 12:00.39 | Krahg | does that mean create an event or something that is called when an addon is loaded, then test to see if it was the macro frame? |
| 12:01.18 | Krahg | my god these people are irritating me to death, they have been calling for for 2 hours asking if my apt door is 910 |
| 12:01.28 | Krahg | now they are just screaming at me |
| 12:01.45 | Krahg | and muttering incoherent non-sense |
| 12:01.53 | Arrowmaster | tell them to stop calling you or youll call the police |
| 12:02.03 | Krahg | I want the package we ordered :( |
| 12:02.23 | Arrowmaster | oh your waiting for a package from them? |
| 12:02.57 | Krahg | but at this point I will contact the mechant and tell them they choose a shipping company composed of idiots that do not understand what 910 means. |
| 12:03.14 | Krahg | yes waiting on a package |
| 12:04.28 | Krahg | anyway, I need to watch an addon loaded event, then check to see if that event loaded the macroFrame? |
| 12:05.54 | Arrowmaster | yes that works |
| 12:06.54 | Krahg | so clear the xml file out of everything except <Script file="addonfilename.lua"> and do everything else in the lua file? Ok, I will give that a shot. |
| 12:07.12 | Krahg | Thanks for the direction |
| 12:07.40 | Arrowmaster | you dont need the xml file at all |
| 12:08.05 | Krahg | how can I load the Lua file then? |
| 12:08.12 | Arrowmaster | you put it in the toc |
| 12:08.35 | Krahg | oh |
| 12:09.17 | Krahg | in this case the xml file isn't anything more than create the button, and click event. Everything else is in the lua file anyway so maybe that is better. |
| 12:11.17 | Krahg | I need a frame to handle events, but the button won't work because it's not loaded until I load it with the macro frame so I need to frames? |
| 12:11.25 | Krahg | sorry, two frames? |
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| 12:12.29 | Cide | hi |
| 12:13.30 | zenzelezz | ohai |
| 12:16.57 | Singmyr | ohai thereh |
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| 12:25.26 | amro | ~stabulate Shirik |
| 12:25.56 | amro | extra win http://xkcd.com/779/ |
| 12:26.41 | mitch0 | bet it's gonna involve cats, too |
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| 12:45.51 | Kalroth | hey Fisker, hey |
| 12:46.07 | Kalroth | see Fisker, http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-20013543-64.html |
| 12:46.16 | Krahg | Arrowmaster, Got my button attached to the macroframe! thanks for the direction! |
| 12:46.20 | Kalroth | "Nvidia reported a second-quarter net loss of $141 million, or 25 cents per share, worse than the net loss of $105.3 million, or 19 cents a share, a year earlier." |
| 12:46.31 | Krahg | hopefully the rest will be easy :) |
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| 13:30.40 | zenzelezz | "Not content to own just news stories, Rupert Murdoch is now going after individual words! His BSkyB is fighting a legal battle with the Skype, claiming that it owns the 'Sky' in 'Skype'." |
| 13:30.48 | zenzelezz | someone just shoot Murdoch already |
| 13:34.08 | Krahg | thats sounds a bit crazy Zenzelezz |
| 13:34.36 | Wobin | ... |
| 13:34.49 | Wobin | Although, if it ended up being named 'Pe', it'd be awesome |
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| 13:35.34 | Krahg | long vowel sounds right? |
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| 13:45.10 | Wobin | "Let me Pe you" |
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| 13:54.24 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.buzzfeed.com/spockgiirl/the-princess-bridewith-cats-tfs/ |
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| 13:59.24 | Kraps | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/60854/loot-a-rang-nyi/ |
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| 14:08.39 | zenzelezz | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/08/12/demotivational-posters-surprise-castration/ |
| 14:16.10 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: http://dailysquee.com/2010/08/12/kitten-pinwheel/ |
| 14:17.42 | Krahg | is the loot a rang real? |
| 14:18.09 | Krahg | that would be awesome for my hunter cause I am never next to a courpse when it dies. lost os wasted time there |
| 14:19.14 | zenzelezz | don't you move on to the mob behind the previous one? That's how I do it, then the corpse is in my path |
| 14:24.35 | cbreak_work | Krahg: you should just use the loot-magnet as all others do. |
| 14:26.32 | Kraps | is playing a mage! |
| 14:27.59 | Krahg | loot magnet? |
| 14:28.13 | Krahg | feels as if he is being hooked and baited. |
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| 14:29.02 | cbreak_work | it's good for aoe grinding mages |
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| 14:31.25 | Krahg | zenzelezz sometimes I do that |
| 14:34.05 | Synycyl | Can anyone help me find out what the event for Abandoning a primary profession skill is |
| 14:34.47 | Synycyl | Right now I have an event for SKILL_LINES_CHANGED I was wondering if there is a specific one for abandoning a skill |
| 14:37.53 | Krahg | Have you tried makeing an frame that prints event names as they are fired? |
| 14:39.05 | Synycyl | not yet i will have to try that |
| 14:39.32 | Synycyl | i'm thinking I'll have to watch the chat frame for it specifically so i can cleanup my frames tables... |
| 14:41.14 | Krahg | I have an add-on that does it now, but my test characters ahve not gold |
| 14:41.38 | Krahg | I had that line as part of debug to just print all the events |
| 14:42.03 | Synycyl | Yeah I'll have to test it out. The addon works great right now but when you abandon a skill it forgets to remove that skill and then it shifts up the bars for the rest causeing it to look garbled |
| 14:42.05 | Krahg | it would only fire on ones that I actually registered though right? |
| 14:42.19 | Krahg | I didn't think about that |
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| 14:44.22 | Krahg | my daughter is cryingin her bed becasue she has Dora on her PJ instead of Spongebob |
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| 14:46.06 | Synycyl | lol |
| 14:47.25 | krka | teenagers, eh? |
| 14:47.54 | Krahg | i dread discovering the answer to that question krka, i have heard things |
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| 15:06.58 | Krahg | ok, it took me a few minutes but I got the 5 silver to test this Synycyl |
| 15:07.07 | Krahg | what exactly do yu want me to test? |
| 15:09.06 | zenzelezz | "Finalizers are a Ouija board, permitting dead objects to operate "from beyond the grave" and affect live objects. As a result, when finalizers are involved, there is a lot of creepy spooky juju going on, and you need to tread very carefully, or your soul will become cursed." |
| 15:09.16 | zenzelezz | didn't know garbage collection talk could be so funky |
| 15:10.22 | Kraps | dudes at zenzelezz |
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| 15:18.31 | Legorol | do stoneskin totem and devotion aura stack now? |
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| 15:26.02 | Krahg | I need to go now, have a good night |
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| 15:29.44 | Synycyl | Torhal you awake? |
| 15:30.59 | Ackis | this is sad, the gov't was too busy protecting the privacy of a criminal that they let him take a child into custody and ended up beating the child to death... if the social workers knew his assault charges were originally attempted murder that might not have happened /sigh |
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| 15:31.41 | Ackis | Synycyl: he's awake but not at home I believe, he said he just stopped home for lunch about a half hour ago |
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| 15:33.02 | PitPanda | can anyone tell me how i can send the args of an event to a function everytime the event happens? ive registered the event but i dont know how to send the args of that event to a function to work with it :( |
| 15:35.16 | Jamash | http://www.wowwiki.com/Handling_events |
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| 15:35.32 | PitPanda | i tried this but it doesnt work dont know why^^ |
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| 15:36.29 | PitPanda | ok now i understand it lol nvm =) |
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| 15:42.58 | Synycyl | hrm... any suggestions on how to detect when a skill is abandoned and to remove a statusbar associated with that lol |
| 15:43.09 | Synycyl | i'm still toying, but sometimes someone already invented that wheel |
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| 16:01.46 | PitPanda | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/139563 whats wrong here? |
| 16:02.12 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/mario_friend_zone_relationship.jpg |
| 16:02.35 | zenzelezz | think you need to escape the [ and ] |
| 16:03.14 | haste | yep |
| 16:03.16 | PitPanda | what do you mean with escape? |
| 16:03.20 | haste | %[ |
| 16:03.38 | haste | escape it so it's treated as normal character and not a magic character |
| 16:03.54 | haste | !api string.find |
| 16:03.55 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'string.find' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.find |
| 16:04.06 | haste | it allows you to set plain to true as well, but might as well just escape it |
| 16:04.14 | PitPanda | ah ok =D lol |
| 16:06.35 | PitPanda | can i use math in this too? |
| 16:07.00 | PitPanda | string.find(...,"%["+1) |
| 16:09.23 | haste | PitPanda: you want to find the character after [ ? |
| 16:10.06 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/goddamn_pussy.jpg try to guess is this nsfw or not |
| 16:11.03 | TC-Work | it's fail is what it is |
| 16:11.06 | haste | PitPanda: you could just do: str:match(''%[([^%]]+)') btw |
| 16:12.29 | PitPanda | i wanna find whats between [ & ] |
| 16:12.35 | haste | yes |
| 16:12.48 | haste | lua> return ('[foo and bar]'):match('%[([^%]]+)') |
| 16:12.49 | lua_bot | haste: foo and bar |
| 16:13.02 | PitPanda | lol damn what dies this do? |
| 16:13.07 | PitPanda | does |
| 16:14.15 | haste | PitPanda: it fetches everything from [ to not a ] |
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| 16:15.06 | PitPanda | yea i know but i dont understand % [ ( ^ ..etc =) |
| 16:15.17 | PitPanda | str is a variable? |
| 16:15.18 | haste | [^a] means not a |
| 16:15.31 | haste | str means the variable str |
| 16:15.36 | PitPanda | ok |
| 16:15.41 | haste | string.match(str, pattern) is the same as str:match(pattern) |
| 16:17.03 | |Jelly| | ahh yes, I love my server ... 5.3k+ GS for ToC10 |
| 16:17.15 | PitPanda | and thats [^%] ? |
| 16:17.35 | haste | PitPanda: [^%]] means not ] |
| 16:17.45 | haste | the + is to fetch 1 or more of not ] |
| 16:17.55 | PitPanda | ok |
| 16:18.00 | haste | which basically means: continue matching untill you find a ] |
| 16:19.08 | PitPanda | yep:) |
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| 16:22.14 | Ackis | anyone in the LA area hear/see the video of the deaf guy being choked out by a security guard? |
| 16:23.58 | Ackis | more curious about the aftermath |
| 16:24.02 | Niv | that sounds like a big lawsuit for multiple reasons :) |
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| 16:25.26 | Ackis | they thought he was a shoplifter and he's been arrested so he probably was |
| 16:25.27 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2010/08/video-forever-21-security-puts-choke-hold-on-deaf-customer-for-not-showing-receipt.html |
| 16:25.35 | Ackis | doesn't excuse those actions however |
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| 16:26.32 | Synycyl | How do you remove a frame with Lua |
| 16:26.34 | PitPanda | chat_msg_loot "sender" is the one who looted? including me and other ppl? |
| 16:26.35 | Niv | I didn't think you were allowed to physically detain shoplifters unless you were a cop |
| 16:26.42 | |Jelly| | I'm not entirely sure where it states that I have to shot anyone a damned thing upon leaving a store. |
| 16:26.54 | |Jelly| | shot = show |
| 16:27.04 | Ackis | it doesn't state that |
| 16:27.16 | Ackis | but store keepers have the right to detain you until law enforcement arrives |
| 16:27.33 | Ackis | it's why walmart receipt checking is illegal and infringes on your civil rights |
| 16:27.35 | |Jelly| | Upon making a formal accusation. |
| 16:27.39 | Synycyl | Store owners reserve the right to verify proof of purchase if you are suspect of criminal activity |
| 16:28.00 | |Jelly| | They do? Where's it say that? |
| 16:28.07 | Ackis | they don't Synycyl |
| 16:28.16 | Synycyl | it doesn't have to be printed publicly. part of the luxory of private business |
| 16:28.19 | Ackis | they are not allowed to touch you, search you, or get proof |
| 16:28.25 | Synycyl | They cannot touch you correct |
| 16:28.31 | Ackis | they are allowed to detain you until a law enforcement official comes |
| 16:28.33 | Synycyl | they can request proof of purchase |
| 16:28.40 | Ackis | and the law enforcement official is allowed to search you |
| 16:28.40 | |Jelly| | *request* |
| 16:29.00 | Synycyl | and in the instance of certain stores such as WalMart the security is permited to detain you with physical force if needed |
| 16:29.09 | |Jelly| | incorrect |
| 16:29.23 | |Jelly| | If your AP team touches me, it's assault. |
| 16:29.24 | Synycyl | no that is not incorrect |
| 16:29.37 | Synycyl | If you resist detainment they can physically keep you |
| 16:29.56 | Synycyl | you can charge assault as well |
| 16:30.01 | |Jelly| | If your AP team touches me, it's assault. <-- |
| 16:30.06 | Synycyl | Yes it is |
| 16:30.09 | Ackis | only companies such as cosco may compel you to show a receipt because you've sign an agreement with them stating that you will show your receipt upon leaving the store |
| 16:30.15 | Synycyl | i didn't say you couldn't claim violation |
| 16:30.31 | |Jelly| | The logic doesn't make sense. |
| 16:30.39 | Ackis | no one has the right to use physical violence against you unless they're threatened |
| 16:30.44 | |Jelly| | Especially since I've worked at many retail outlets, including Walmart. |
| 16:30.51 | Ackis | a cop can't even do it |
| 16:31.07 | |Jelly| | And a cop has levels of force that he has to follow. |
| 16:31.44 | Synycyl | well i'm unconcerned about that... i need Lua help lol |
| 16:32.03 | |Jelly| | reminices about cogwheel's "agree to disagree" speech. |
| 16:32.53 | Ackis | grumbles about that since he used that speech on me. |
| 16:33.00 | |Jelly| | ily |
| 16:33.27 | Ackis | FUCK YOU GLOBAL FAKE WARMING |
| 16:33.29 | Ackis | cog|away: ^ |
| 16:33.37 | Ackis | oh yeah I went there |
| 16:33.41 | TC-Work | i like the local real cooling however |
| 16:33.51 | TC-Work | no heat in summer = win |
| 16:34.03 | Ackis | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/tys2.png |
| 16:34.33 | |Jelly| | ............. |
| 16:34.58 | nevcairiel | how did she figure out its chilly powder? |
| 16:36.10 | |Jelly| | taste test, of course |
| 16:36.19 | haste | aren't tampons contained in shrink plast? |
| 16:36.31 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt know |
| 16:36.39 | haste | "Hmm, this tampon is open! I should totally use it" |
| 16:36.56 | Cide | yes they are |
| 16:36.59 | nevcairiel | arent they white usually? and chilly powder red? |
| 16:37.21 | Cide | I would answer but people wouldn't like it |
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| 16:37.40 | nevcairiel | I'm sure i would |
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| 16:37.47 | Cide | depends on the number of uses |
| 16:37.55 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 16:49.19 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/viasofapizza.gif?w=231&h=148 |
| 16:49.52 | zenzelezz | Ackis: heh, mad skills |
| 16:52.24 | Fisker | lol cog|away |
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| 16:55.43 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 16:55.44 | purl | ~pong |
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| 16:55.48 | Kraps | what |
| 16:56.04 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 16:56.05 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:58.03 | Kraps | so my net is really slow? |
| 16:58.31 | Kraps | ~ping |
| 16:58.32 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:59.07 | durcyn | yeah, talking to a bot on irc is a good way to measure RTT |
| 16:59.59 | Kraps | never said its good :p |
| 17:02.02 | zenzelezz | if they haven't already, they should make purl remember recent ~pings, so she could intentionally insert random delays in subsequent requests |
| 17:02.38 | Kraps | having an issue here, why is the balloon text truncated? http://www.box.net/shared/yn68rl7eee http://www.box.net/shared/2721r53kq3 http://www.box.net/shared/amhy24m2gg |
| 17:10.20 | PitPanda | is there a good tutorial for ui creation with lua? |
| 17:10.58 | Fisker | who is cosco Ackis ? |
| 17:12.54 | Fisker | how would you know haste ? |
| 17:13.20 | haste | PitPanda: just read code |
| 17:13.24 | haste | and the widget api |
| 17:15.19 | Fisker | how would you know haste ? |
| 17:15.36 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/guygo look at who he's following (very neat what he did) |
| 17:15.47 | Kraps | so any of you accessing the screenies, any idea? |
| 17:15.48 | Ackis | cosco is a wholesale store fisker and you have a membership agreement with them |
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| 17:24.51 | Legorol | PitPanda: don't listen to haste. Read this book: |
| 17:24.54 | Legorol | ~wowprogramming |
| 17:24.55 | purl | [wowprogramming] World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 17:25.00 | Fisker | i thought that was costco Ackis :( |
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| 17:25.25 | Legorol | that book starts on really basic levels and builds up to expert features, so it's excellent |
| 17:26.52 | PitPanda | ok |
| 17:28.17 | Legorol | taht book also covers basic Lua, but if you are looking to learn Lua in general (without WoW), you can read this for free: |
| 17:28.18 | Legorol | ~pil |
| 17:28.19 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 17:30.06 | PitPanda | ok :) thx |
| 17:30.17 | Ackis | when you jailbreak your iphone, can you change the sounds or just themes? |
| 17:30.59 | haste | glares at his copy of PiL. |
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| 17:33.23 | Legorol | morning KarlKFI |
| 17:33.44 | KarlKFI | My win7 just BSOD'd with a "Page Fault in nonpaged Area" |
| 17:33.53 | KarlKFI | not a good way to start the day |
| 17:34.12 | Fisker | bsod's KarlKFI |
| 17:35.27 | Fisker | i think you lied to me Ackis |
| 17:37.15 | Kraps | everyone lies to you Fisker |
| 17:45.19 | Synycyl | do a memtest86+ from UBCD |
| 17:46.08 | Kraps | 66% off all doom games on steam |
| 17:46.36 | amro | I already have all doom games |
| 17:46.44 | amro | so does every self respecting pc gamer |
| 17:47.37 | Pneumatus | confirming this |
| 17:47.42 | Kraps | self what? |
| 17:49.00 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 17:49.50 | Pneumatus | the super id pack is always on offer as well |
| 17:50.41 | Dagmar | Ya buy it on Steam so you can go ahead and put the front of your Doom boxes into frames and throw the rest of that shit out |
| 17:53.00 | Kraps | that series looks like it would kill me from sustained high amounts of stress and terror |
| 17:53.29 | KarlKFI | and bunr out your eyes from too much dark |
| 17:55.16 | KarlKFI | omg, Commander Keen is on steam! |
| 17:55.32 | kd3 | ^ me a few months back |
| 17:55.32 | KarlKFI | that's my childhood right there |
| 17:55.36 | kd3 | no kidding |
| 17:55.48 | kd3 | spent way too much time playing that in my 3.1 days |
| 17:57.06 | zenzelezz | I wasn't that keen on that game |
| 17:57.08 | KarlKFI | best 20mb ever |
| 17:58.22 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gameboy.jpg |
| 17:58.27 | Kraps | falls over |
| 17:58.29 | Fisker | kill me kd3 |
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| 18:00.12 | KarlKFI | also my childhood |
| 18:00.17 | KarlKFI | but not as much as legos |
| 18:01.09 | zenzelezz | I remember the tiers... |
| 18:01.18 | zenzelezz | duplo -> lego -> lego technics |
| 18:01.47 | Kraps | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0c/SNES-USA.png/250px-SNES-USA.png |
| 18:02.05 | Kraps | sexytime |
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| 18:03.09 | olafski | mm wolfenstein |
| 18:03.46 | Kraps | starfox on the snes |
| 18:03.53 | Kraps | i loved that shit |
| 18:03.54 | haste | ironically, I just returned from playing super swiv on my snes Kraps :P |
| 18:04.20 | Kraps | wow you still have one :o |
| 18:04.25 | Ackis | tetris |
| 18:04.49 | haste | Kraps: I still have an atari 2600 as well |
| 18:05.01 | Kraps | haste: never seen that game |
| 18:05.26 | haste | don't think it's too known |
| 18:05.27 | Kraps | lol does it run? |
| 18:05.33 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:05.33 | Kraps | the atari |
| 18:05.53 | haste | yes |
| 18:06.12 | haste | I only have like... 8 games on it tho' |
| 18:06.19 | Kraps | what games? |
| 18:06.47 | Kraps | pong? :p |
| 18:06.53 | haste | pitfall and pac-man at least |
| 18:07.04 | olafski | mm pitfall |
| 18:07.09 | Fisker | oh ok haste |
| 18:07.11 | Fisker | then i hate you |
| 18:07.17 | olafski | I have fond memories of Hero on an MSX :> |
| 18:08.04 | Dagmar | My gf got me a joystick a few years ago that had Pitfall and a few other things built into it |
| 18:08.30 | Ackis | marvel ultimate alliance had a pitfall game built into it |
| 18:08.51 | olafski | yes |
| 18:09.10 | Dagmar | The irony is that she was a toddler when Pitfall came out |
| 18:09.21 | olafski | so true that back in the day, game cover art was half of the immersiveness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.E.R.O. |
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| 18:09.59 | Kraps | erm |
| 18:10.42 | Kraps | oh the period |
| 18:10.55 | olafski | =) |
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| 18:12.05 | Kraps | lolwut http://www.atariage.com/audio/atarijingle.wav |
| 18:12.06 | haste | Kraps: Asteroids, Combat, Circus Atari, Star Raiders, indy 500 and space invaders |
| 18:13.28 | haste | I love how all of these games are older than me |
| 18:14.50 | Kraps | howd you get an atari then? |
| 18:15.22 | haste | complete randomness |
| 18:16.08 | haste | I also have an amiga 500 and a 1200 lying aruond here |
| 18:16.11 | Kraps | oh so you have that really crappy version of pacman o_O |
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| 18:16.43 | Kraps | for the 2600 |
| 18:16.56 | haste | yes :D |
| 18:18.02 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pac-Man_Atari_2600_footage.ogv |
| 18:18.35 | haste | yes, that one |
| 18:19.26 | Kraps | "The American video game crash had two long-lasting results. The first result was that dominance in the home console market shifted from the United States to Japan. When the video game market recovered by 1985, the leading player was Nintendo's NES, with a resurgent Atari battling Sega for the number-two spot. But Atari never truly recovered and could not match the success of its 2600... |
| 18:19.28 | Kraps | ...console. It finally stopped producing game systems in 1996 after the failure of the Atari Jaguar." |
| 18:21.28 | Dagmar | There was a video game market crash? |
| 18:21.30 | Dagmar | hah |
| 18:21.32 | Synycyl | still can't find a way to clear a frame and all its children on the event of abandoning a skill... any ideas? |
| 18:21.43 | Dagmar | That *might* be just a little overblown |
| 18:22.04 | haste | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_video_game_crash_of_1983 :D |
| 18:22.18 | Kraps | Dagmar: its been called that forever |
| 18:23.16 | Dagmar | I disagree that it was some kind of crash |
| 18:23.25 | Dagmar | People just swiched to playing games mainly on home computers |
| 18:23.35 | Dagmar | Plus, Arcades entered the picture in force |
| 18:24.00 | Dagmar | A crash would imply that it sort of "just happened" which isn't exactly true |
| 18:24.41 | Kraps | Dagmar: but at the same time atari released two really shitty games |
| 18:24.44 | Dagmar | There were a plethora of consoles and a ton of games which were more or less "okay" for the time, but home computers and dedicated video arcades started taking in money and the market simply left the console companies behind |
| 18:25.04 | Dagmar | Kraps: ET's probably wasn't that it was shitty. It was not unique in that. |
| 18:25.15 | Dagmar | The problem was that they made TEN TIMES the number of ET carts as there were 2600 consoles |
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| 18:25.34 | Dagmar | A major, major manufacturing fuckup |
| 18:26.05 | Dagmar | Unless they could find a way to market the things as specialty/fetish doorstops, they were just destined to lose a crapload of cash. |
| 18:26.26 | Dagmar | They actually wound up digging a whopping great hole, BURYING a fsckton of them boxes and all, and cementing it over. |
| 18:26.44 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_video_game_burial |
| 18:26.59 | Dagmar | I don't have to look it up. I was alive and playing/buying video games then. |
| 18:27.12 | Dagmar | *STOMPSTOMPSTOMPSTOMP* |
| 18:27.40 | Dagmar | ET was really noisy |
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| 18:46.10 | Kraps | ~lart fisker and his trout |
| 18:46.10 | purl | stamps fisker and his trout on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
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| 18:49.28 | Synycyl | Torhal: You around? |
| 18:53.51 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/samurai-sword-stunt-fail.html |
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| 18:58.04 | Guest59543 | so i cant ghost TC-Work, but it's in use |
| 18:58.23 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 18:58.26 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 19:00.46 | Kraps | mikma: kill them now plz |
| 19:08.56 | mikma | 22:10 >> Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator |
| 19:08.59 | mikma | sorry |
| 19:09.55 | Adys | Jerub: you around? |
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| 19:13.19 | Kraps | the writing in the new lie to me episodes is way better |
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| 19:15.50 | alestane | cog|away: http://store.funnytimes.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TFTGS&Product_Code=FT433&Category_Code=TEES |
| 19:18.12 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:20.41 | alestane | ...there's no place like hoem. |
| 19:20.47 | alestane | home* |
| 19:22.00 | alestane | Also: http://store.funnytimes.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TFTGS&Product_Code=FT415&Category_Code=TEES |
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| 19:33.39 | Aldian | Good afternoon all |
| 19:33.57 | Ackis | no |
| 19:33.59 | Ackis | ~ugt |
| 19:34.00 | purl | hmm... ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 19:35.07 | Aldian | Be that as it may, I do have a question about the combat log I was wondering if anyone could help me with it |
| 19:35.23 | zenzelezz | state your question and we'll see |
| 19:35.25 | zenzelezz | =) |
| 19:35.29 | durcyn | ~asktoask |
| 19:35.30 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:35.33 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:35.42 | Ackis | well played durcyn |
| 19:35.44 | Ackis | well played |
| 19:35.52 | durcyn | checkmate. |
| 19:35.58 | zenzelezz | but it was too late |
| 19:36.07 | TC-Work | ~checkmate Ackis |
| 19:36.12 | TC-Work | ... |
| 19:36.18 | TC-Work | ty purl |
| 19:36.26 | durcyn | ~factinto checkmate |
| 19:36.51 | TC-Work | ~ping |
| 19:36.52 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:36.57 | TC-Work | at least that works |
| 19:37.00 | durcyn | how is that undefined |
| 19:37.09 | TC-Work | ~checkmate |
| 19:37.24 | durcyn | !factinfo ping |
| 19:37.25 | Ackis | Aldian: ask your question, ignore us bot people :) |
| 19:37.27 | durcyn | er |
| 19:37.31 | zenzelezz | could be it's not a factoid but a module |
| 19:37.35 | durcyn | ~factinfo ping |
| 19:37.35 | purl | ping -- created by triclops <~triclops@203-219-160-62-nsw.tpgi.com.au> at Mon Oct 20 01:05:24 2003 (2489 days); last modified at Wed Aug 13 18:18:42 2008 by g0urra!n=g0urra@73-236.powerdsl.t3.se; it has been requested 838 times, last by TC-Work, 43s ago. |
| 19:37.38 | Aldian | When you generate WoWCombatLog.txt using the ingame /combatlog command, what information is in each field, I've managed to figure out all but the last 8 fields... What are they? |
| 19:37.51 | durcyn | it's not a module in the copy I have, hrm |
| 19:37.58 | TC-Work | wait...i didnt request that |
| 19:38.06 | TC-Work | ok, nvm |
| 19:38.09 | zenzelezz | Aldian: look up (I think) COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 19:38.13 | TC-Work | s/ok/oh/ |
| 19:38.38 | zenzelezz | think WoWWiki had a breakdown of the values; might be one on WoWprogramming too |
| 19:38.42 | durcyn | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT for all your CLEU needs. |
| 19:38.54 | zenzelezz | there you go |
| 19:39.09 | durcyn | the short answer is: the suffixes vary by subevent, so. |
| 19:39.11 | TC-Work | !api combat |
| 19:39.12 | lua_bot | Found 28 possible matches for 'combat'. Please be more specific |
| 19:39.16 | TC-Work | no |
| 19:40.35 | Aldian | Hmm see those deal with whats returned by that function ingame |
| 19:40.49 | zenzelezz | the combat log is the same |
| 19:40.54 | durcyn | hmm see that function is what's written to the combat log |
| 19:41.13 | durcyn | WoWCombatLog.txt is literally the output of COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 19:42.15 | durcyn | i've written enough shitty lua to parse the damn thing, i think i'd remember. what line are you stuck on? |
| 19:43.02 | Aldian | hmm well now there's still one column that makes no sense to me, the field right after the field where the damage of the ability is |
| 19:43.51 | durcyn | uh, overkill according to the chart. |
| 19:43.59 | durcyn | are you looking at the suffix chart on that wiki page? |
| 19:44.58 | Aldian | ah ok, see that chart didn't make sense to me at first, cause some of the data in that field is spell names, it was throwing me off |
| 19:45.38 | durcyn | the fields are not the same for every suffix. |
| 19:45.47 | Aldian | I think I get it now, its gonna require some extra conditional parsing.... |
| 19:47.19 | zenzelezz | really hate how as an Alliance, if you die in Ashenvale very close to the border to Felwood, you respawn at Astrannar, not Raynewood Retreat x.x |
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| 19:59.21 | Kraps | Hatris A variety of hats must be made to fall in to stacks of five identical hats. Designed by Alexey Pazhitnov, the original Tetris author. |
| 19:59.27 | Kraps | durrr |
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| 20:52.13 | Adys | Maybe someone can help with this |
| 20:52.28 | Adys | Im trying to compile pgadmin3 and apparently it's not detecting wx, but configure is. http://www.pastethat.com/Dijtq |
| 20:57.41 | Adys | ah got it, their configure script needed enable-gtk |
| 21:02.54 | TC-Work | anyone know how to edit BIOS from windows? |
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| 21:05.32 | Ackis | I use a bios editing program that came with my mobo TC-Work |
| 21:05.53 | TC-Work | Ackis: i am talking about dell machines |
| 21:05.59 | TC-Work | so it can be done remotly |
| 21:06.06 | Ackis | ah |
| 21:07.22 | Dagmar | Get a job at Dell. |
| 21:08.03 | Dagmar | If you've got someone pressuring you to change BIOS settings remotely, you are not doing a very good job of striking fear in the hearts of your users. |
| 21:08.12 | olafski | has something catastrophic happened to windows this week or something? 14 updates oO |
| 21:08.46 | Dagmar | olafski: Nothing more than the usual |
| 21:08.51 | TC-Work | Dagmar: eh? no i want it so i dont have to go on-site |
| 21:09.16 | TC-Work | eg. i want to change stuff, like set WoL on all the machines |
| 21:09.22 | Dagmar | Tc-Work: To change BIOS settings? This isn't something you should have to change generally unless you're at the hardware |
| 21:09.36 | TC-Work | see above |
| 21:10.07 | Dagmar | There's a reason you're supposed to use the BIOS editor. |
| 21:10.23 | TC-Work | not a good one then |
| 21:10.38 | Dagmar | There's no guarantee just becasue one setting is stored in byte x of CMOS that it will have the same meaning to a different revision of the BIOS. |
| 21:11.26 | TC-Work | but you can tell the bios and it's revisions from windows |
| 21:11.26 | Dagmar | Just because you want to stamp your foot and say it should be so doesn't mean a damn thing. |
| 21:11.38 | TC-Work | so therefor you could have ones made for each kind |
| 21:11.46 | Dagmar | You're not generally allowed that sort of hardware access from within windows. |
| 21:11.47 | TC-Work | and since we are talking about dell.... |
| 21:11.53 | Dagmar | If you want a tool like that, go bother Dell |
| 21:12.22 | Dagmar | They've hacked up Phoenix BIOSes for their machines. |
| 21:12.26 | TC-Work | all i did was ask if anyone knew a way, but thanks for making it sound like i what bothering you |
| 21:12.38 | Dagmar | Let me make it clear then. There is no way. |
| 21:12.55 | Dagmar | It *can* be done, but only with extreme effort, and Dell makes no such tool available. |
| 21:13.46 | Dagmar | Even their TSRs walk people through that |
| 21:14.26 | Dagmar | A less pain-in-the-ass solution would simply be to cook up a BIOS with the settings you want set as defaults, and send it to the user, but that's not going to easily apply to "just any" Dell. |
| 21:15.19 | Dagmar | ...plus there's that whole "explaining" thing you have to do if the user interrupts the process and cooks everything but the boot block. |
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| 21:17.51 | Dagmar | I've a feeling htat a WoL change would require you to remote reboot the machine anyway. That's not something you can just flip a bit in memory and make happen |
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| 21:34.03 | Dashkal | ooo, beta maintainence. pleasegivepatch pleasegivepatch... |
| 21:34.17 | Dashkal | WTB working "Still Valuable" quest. |
| 21:35.39 | Fisker | slaps Dashkal around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:42.09 | PitPanda | it is possible to send a msg as status like quests? |
| 21:43.42 | zenzelezz | status to what? |
| 21:43.57 | PitPanda | i wanna send a text to the status frame |
| 21:44.04 | PitPanda | want to* |
| 21:44.09 | zenzelezz | which status frame? |
| 21:44.46 | PitPanda | in the mid of screen where the quest thingy appears everytime you loot a item for a quest =) |
| 21:45.15 | PitPanda | or if target is not in range or whatever can happen there comes a msg |
| 21:46.36 | zenzelezz | I think those are scrolling message frames... dig up the frame name in the default UI files and call AddMessage() on it, or see how the default UI does it |
| 21:46.39 | Dashkal | eats the trout |
| 21:47.36 | PitPanda | can you explain me how i can look this? cuz im new to this all xD |
| 21:47.58 | zenzelezz | ~framexml |
| 21:47.59 | purl | Extract FrameXML using the official Add On Kit: (Mac:) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg (Win:) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source or http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 21:50.08 | Adys | Cide: ping |
| 21:50.18 | Cide | pong |
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| 21:58.12 | PitPanda | damn i cant find it ^^ |
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| 22:04.14 | Kraps | http://kronikle.kidrobot.com/pencil-tip-micro-sculptures-by-dalton-ghetti/ |
| 22:06.30 | NightHawkTheSane | seriously linked that like three days ago |
| 22:07.36 | Ackis | do you need natural talent to take singing lessons? |
| 22:08.04 | Cide | no but you need some natural talent to not waste your money entirely? |
| 22:08.13 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: pics or it didnt happen |
| 22:08.47 | olafski | amazing kraps :D |
| 22:10.16 | Ackis | Cide: isn't there a computer ghizmo that will auto-tune your voice? |
| 22:10.37 | Cide | yes there is |
| 22:10.42 | Cide | so why do you need singing lessons? |
| 22:10.48 | Cide | and it makes you sound like a robot |
| 22:11.52 | Ycarene | Are they taking parry out of the game? |
| 22:12.52 | Dashkal | No. Where'd you hear that? |
| 22:13.44 | Ycarene | All the parry is gone from my paladin's tanking gear. |
| 22:13.49 | Ycarene | on the beta |
| 22:14.21 | zenzelezz | they felt that parrying was too confusing for paladins, so they restricted you to blocking only |
| 22:14.41 | Ycarene | ? |
| 22:14.46 | zenzelezz | joke |
| 22:14.53 | Ycarene | heh |
| 22:15.51 | Ycarene | With as many radical changes that they'r doing to pally's you had me going a bit there. |
| 22:15.54 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/rectify-the-situation/6529 |
| 22:16.25 | Ackis | rectum? damn near ruined em! |
| 22:17.16 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/benefits-are-all-about-sustaining-labor/6522 |
| 22:19.16 | PitPanda | everyone can sing ^^ |
| 22:20.22 | Ackis | I can't :P |
| 22:20.59 | PitPanda | you can learn it |
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| 22:21.34 | NightHawkTheSane | if singing is simply defined as producing tones with your voice, then everyone CAN sing. |
| 22:21.45 | NightHawkTheSane | not everyone can sing well, or in tune, however. |
| 22:21.47 | PitPanda | you need to learn the breathing techniques |
| 22:22.08 | PitPanda | and how to control it |
| 22:22.37 | Dagmar | You have to not be tone deaf. |
| 22:22.48 | Dagmar | Otherwise your only choice is frontman in a death metal band |
| 22:22.59 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXb0JyGxsmk |
| 22:23.17 | Dagmar | ...and to call that "singing" is questionable at best. |
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| 22:25.49 | PitPanda | i dont like screamo ^^ |
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| 22:26.44 | PitPanda | damn still cant find how to send in status :( |
| 22:31.00 | TC-Work | find an addon that already does it and see how it works? |
| 22:31.48 | PitPanda | im searching for an addon the past 6 days and cant find one ^^ |
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| 22:33.53 | Dashkal | "send in status"? |
| 22:33.53 | Dagmar | Probably no such thing exists then. |
| 22:35.07 | PitPanda | dont know how its spelled ^^ |
| 22:35.44 | Dagmar | Try using different words then. |
| 22:35.55 | Spejnar | isnt a "!" before a spellname suppose to make it spammable without loosing the target circle? |
| 22:36.08 | zenzelezz | PitPanda: well, you could use the error frame... UIErrorsFrame:AddMessage("arf", 1.0, 0.5, 1.0); |
| 22:36.09 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 22:36.38 | TC-Work | PitPanda: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10668-WhisperAlert.html ? |
| 22:36.39 | PitPanda | this works? |
| 22:36.44 | zenzelezz | try it? |
| 22:36.48 | TC-Work | or something similar |
| 22:37.54 | PitPanda | ok will try what happens =D |
| 22:39.49 | PitPanda | yea this works :D |
| 22:42.01 | PitPanda | thx |
| 22:42.13 | zenzelezz | http://facebookingfail.com/view/funny-facebook-fail/83 |
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| 22:49.15 | PitPanda | http://www.hornoxe.com/besoffen-ein-zelt-aufbauen/ lol ^^ |
| 22:50.11 | Spejnar | wasnt "!" the modifier to make a macro spammable without loosing the target circle? |
| 22:50.28 | TekNoir | Yes |
| 22:50.58 | Spejnar | hmm, still works if I use a modifier macro? Cant get it to work with my frost trap / freezing arrow modifier macro |
| 22:51.14 | TekNoir | Such as /cast !Mass Dispel |
| 22:51.48 | Spejnar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:51.54 | Spejnar | oh right |
| 22:51.56 | Spejnar | im stupid |
| 22:51.57 | Spejnar | ignore me |
| 22:52.06 | Spejnar | arrow != trap |
| 22:52.13 | TekNoir | Hehehe. |
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| 23:03.06 | Dagmar | *sigh* |
| 23:03.43 | Dagmar | What the ! does, as far as I know, is simply makes abilities which are _toggles_ like Auto-Shot only be set to on |
| 23:04.17 | Dagmar | Abilitites that involve a target reticule don't toggle. Subsequent presses of them don't make the reticle go away that I've noticed, either. |
| 23:09.02 | Dagmar | It's _very_ useful for /cast [target=whatever] !Auto Shot tho |
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| 23:16.48 | PitPanda | anyone know the exact color of the questprogress text ? |
| 23:24.38 | Spejnar | Dagmar: freezing arrows toggles, without ! I cant spam it and might screw up due to GCD when scattertrapping |
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| 23:45.51 | Synycyl | Good evening |
| 23:46.06 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/948073732 |
| 23:47.41 | Adys | http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/08/galactic-inbox-html5-game-inspired-by.html |
| 23:47.48 | Synycyl | Torhal you wouldn't happen to be there would ya? |
| 23:51.26 | Synycyl | damn |
| 23:53.27 | Amarande | yay. one more primordial saronite and then I have enough to get hellfrozens made |
| 23:53.32 | Amarande | ... 'course now I don't have any more money, either |
| 23:53.45 | Amarande | but I'm HOPING that having them crafted won't cost me nearly so much as buying one from AH |
| 23:54.53 | Amarande | although I'm probably sitting on at least ten thousand gold worth of leather and herbs that I've been saving for my alchemist and LW that I'm not sure whether I'll use anytime soon |
| 23:56.39 | Amarande | gah, only 447g total to my name now |
| 23:56.44 | Amarande | and I still need titansteel bars and eternals |
| 23:56.48 | Amarande | guess I'm going to be farming the eternals heh |
