| 00:00.49 | Zyn | the tension is rising, and the .exe's run warm |
| 00:01.47 | Thrae | "As stated in the department-wide memo earlier, if certain employees use up 99% of our available bandwidth, they shall be throttled. Would these certain employees please come to my office between the hours of 12-3 to be throttled: Mary, James, Alvin, Sam..." |
| 00:02.20 | WobWork | Thrae: people downloading the caty beta? =) |
| 00:03.21 | Maldivia | Thrae: sounds like a BYOB moment? |
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| 00:06.01 | Maldivia | anyway, happy patching everone, and good night :P |
| 00:07.21 | Kraps | mmoc update incoming |
| 00:11.55 | ScytheBlade1 | I wonder if comcast would appreciate me throwing 100mbit at my 16mbit line.. |
| 00:12.18 | ScytheBlade1 | not trying to pull 100mbit down, but pushing 100mbit at it |
| 00:13.19 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: no one want to hear about you and your terrible ISP :P |
| 00:13.30 | ScytheBlade1 | which is why I want to beat them with a stick |
| 00:13.37 | ScytheBlade1 | this is about as close as I can come :/ |
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| 00:17.06 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: ahaha 'terrible' ISP? |
| 00:17.07 | WobWork | ahahahaha |
| 00:17.12 | WobWork | s'if |
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| 00:19.04 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: 50ms to the FIRST HOP counts as terrible. yes? |
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| 00:20.27 | Thrae | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6rtNP6jsQc <-- BE Paladin solo'ing King Varian Wrynn |
| 00:21.40 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: try living in Australia =( |
| 00:22.18 | ScytheBlade1 | while that sucks for you, my issues are all first mile. :/ |
| 00:22.19 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 00:22.21 | ScytheBlade1 | last mile |
| 00:22.22 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: that would be nice |
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| 00:22.31 | Jerub | ScytheBlade1: 50ms is fine for adsl rtt |
| 00:22.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Jerub: rtt to the first hop? that's absurd |
| 00:23.04 | Jerub | entirely feasable. |
| 00:23.10 | Corrodias | what's rtt? |
| 00:23.16 | WobWork | Australia is the backwater hillybilly with the cans connected by string of the Internet =( |
| 00:23.21 | Jerub | you can probably get better depending on modem, distance or line profile. |
| 00:23.58 | Corrodias | that is pretty bad, still. i get 6ms to+from my connection point (dsl) |
| 00:24.07 | foxlit | So faction leaders clearly need the -25% dodge buff |
| 00:24.10 | Jerub | ScytheBlade1: how are you connected? |
| 00:24.33 | Jerub | ScytheBlade1: commodity combo router/modem? |
| 00:25.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Jerub: leased modem that is being replaced for the second time tomorrow, and a custom embedded router |
| 00:25.17 | ScytheBlade1 | woo |
| 00:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | and my line dropped out again |
| 00:25.39 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastey.net/138560 |
| 00:25.40 | ScytheBlade1 | =[ |
| 00:25.43 | Thunder_Child | sucks to be you? |
| 00:25.48 | Jerub | ScytheBlade1: either of those could be an issue. |
| 00:25.58 | Jerub | is it pppoe ? |
| 00:26.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Jerub: neither are, issue is the line, as per every single comcast tech that has been here and that I've spoken to |
| 00:26.12 | ScytheBlade1 | no, cable |
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| 00:27.17 | Jerub | oh i've heard of comcast. |
| 00:28.34 | Corrodias | and they've just decided not to fix it, or what? |
| 00:30.11 | ScytheBlade1 | they have no idea how to fix it. |
| 00:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | absolutely none. |
| 00:30.41 | Jamash | comcast is terrible |
| 00:30.43 | Corrodias | well... if it's the line, i suppose you'd have to replace the cable. and possibly the hardware on the other end. or it may be interference somewhere if it's just your house having problems. |
| 00:30.55 | Corrodias | but... interference in a shielded cable? nah |
| 00:30.56 | Jamash | Solution: replace comcast |
| 00:32.02 | ScytheBlade1 | the line from my modem to the street checks out |
| 00:32.15 | ScytheBlade1 | but from that point on is the problem |
| 00:36.27 | Arrowmaster | Corrodias: you do know that shielded cables actually act like antennas for interference each side isnt properly grounded or there is a breaking in the shielding right? |
| 00:37.27 | Corrodias | it makes sense, but i cannot guess the effect of an unconnected antenna |
| 00:37.44 | Dagmar | Let's just say that crimping coax is still considered "challenging" for some people. |
| 00:38.00 | Arrowmaster | they dont crimp it anymore |
| 00:38.01 | ScytheBlade1 | they evidently had a signal leak in a neighboring city a few years back |
| 00:38.05 | batrick | hugs Cairenn|afk. |
| 00:38.06 | Arrowmaster | they use the screw on connectors |
| 00:38.10 | Corrodias | you'd think it'd be relatively simple for them to test the line and check the endpoints |
| 00:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | to the point where airline pilots were picking up HBO and the FCC said "enough of that" and shut them down entirely, lol |
| 00:38.23 | Corrodias | wouldn't you want to construct your expensive network in a way that's maintainable? |
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| 00:44.04 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCB9pBr-cJw |
| 00:44.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://flojuggler.com/ (related to above link) |
| 00:44.20 | ScytheBlade1 | all I can say, is wtf? |
| 00:44.57 | ScytheBlade1 | the creepy part is where it is a guy narrating that video |
| 00:44.59 | theorbtwo | The thing is, tv cable consumer networks are built a bit at a time by installers. |
| 00:45.18 | theorbtwo | The installers get pushed to do as many installs per hour as possible. |
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| 00:45.47 | theorbtwo | Nobody's pushing them to do it right, it's all about doing it as quickly and cheaply as possible while not actually having customers come to complain. |
| 00:45.57 | theorbtwo | I've seen a *lot* of crappy tv wiring. |
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| 00:47.31 | Dagmar | I made the installer guy mad here. He was offended that I wouldn't let him use the machine I had connected to the cablemodem, because it was a Linux machine. |
| 00:47.37 | Dagmar | It also had no GUI. |
| 00:47.45 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 00:48.33 | Dagmar | He should have just taken it as a freaking blessing. I know they get paid by the gig and he was in and out in <10 minutes |
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| 00:51.29 | Kaelten | Hey guys, I just wanted to let people know that I've processed all the current requests for beta keys. So if you had one pending from us check your email. :) |
| 00:52.32 | Jamash | I got mine :D |
| 00:52.45 | Jamash | downloading as we speak |
| 00:53.04 | Cloudwolf | Kaelten are you wowi or curse? or am i just being stupid |
| 00:53.16 | Cloudwolf | D: im 00240 gonna have a little while to wait |
| 00:53.23 | Cloudwolf | hopefully next batch of 50 for wowi will get me one heh |
| 00:53.49 | Kaelten | Cloudwolf: I'm with WowAce and CurseForge :) |
| 00:54.06 | Kaelten | I still have a few left to handout so if anyone's interested :) |
| 00:56.17 | Jamash | I could use some but not for any legitimate purpose >.> |
| 00:56.25 | Kaelten | hehe |
| 00:56.43 | Stanzilla | friends? :p |
| 00:57.39 | Jamash | friends, family, ebay... |
| 00:57.49 | ScytheBlade1 | .. craigslist.. |
| 00:59.22 | Kaelten | ScytheBlade1: Looking for a GENEROUS wow player to shower me with money in exchange for a magical number |
| 00:59.36 | Kaelten | I could see the fucked up ads now |
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| 01:00.24 | Kaelten | gah, just realized that could appear as a solicitation, just to verify, it is not! |
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| 01:01.25 | Jamash | It's been done |
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| 01:02.14 | Jamash | http://www.wow.com/2007/04/10/wts-epic-mount |
| 01:02.33 | kd3 | ooh, compactraidframes |
| 01:03.33 | Stanzilla | what what what |
| 01:03.34 | Shirik | Jamash, so old |
| 01:03.37 | Dagmar | I'm not in the beta yet, but I'm not getting involved in any 'solicitations'. heh |
| 01:03.39 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:03.39 | Shirik | nm |
| 01:06.24 | Cloudwolf | Kaelten :P nah im in a waiting line ill wait patenitly in spot 240 they already gave out 198 just have to get more from blizzard. And uhm who here is in secure hookers? I so want to join that guild just for the lulz when i get into the beta(if i get into the beta) |
| 01:06.49 | Kaelten | lol |
| 01:07.16 | batrick | indeed |
| 01:07.20 | batrick | secure hookers is where it's at |
| 01:07.26 | Kaelten | last time I was on the guild stuff was still halfway broke |
| 01:07.33 | Cloudwolf | So Kaelten just curious what addons have you made? or are you just a mod? Also i coudln't put any names to addons as it were except for shadowed >.> cus i use his unit frames lol |
| 01:08.01 | Kaelten | Cloudwolf: Ace, OneBag, bunch of other stuff |
| 01:08.18 | Kirkburn | Anyone know if addons will still be disabled in this build? |
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| 01:08.26 | Cloudwolf | so wait you created the ace framework? |
| 01:08.37 | Kirkburn | (Also, I want to join secure hookers, but no-one's on when i've tried :) ) |
| 01:08.46 | Kaelten | me and Turan started the project :) |
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| 01:09.00 | Kaelten | http://www.wowace.com/profiles/Kaelten/addons/ if you're very curious |
| 01:09.05 | Lunessa | station |
| 01:09.10 | Cloudwolf | Well then uhm never used the framework but a ton of stuff uses it so congrats on making osmething usefull lol |
| 01:09.25 | Kirkburn | Cloudwolf, you've probably used it unknowningly, then? :) |
| 01:09.56 | Fatal5101 | is it possible to make an addon that accepts dungeon queues? |
| 01:10.11 | Cloudwolf | I have used addons that use it |
| 01:10.22 | Cloudwolf | I have not coded with it in mind on my addons |
| 01:10.29 | Dagmar | Fatal5101: Probably not. Sounds like something that would require a click |
| 01:10.56 | Kaelten | Cloudwolf: mostly I spend my time working on WowAce now |
| 01:11.36 | Cloudwolf | hmm kaleten i used onebag for a while. not any more heh... i should be quiet now >.> |
| 01:11.55 | Kaelten | ... |
| 01:11.55 | Kaelten | :P |
| 01:11.59 | kd3 | emails away! |
| 01:12.08 | Kaelten | na, I'm planning a OB4 update before cata hits |
| 01:12.26 | Kaelten | after I started working for curse a lot of my drive code in my free time was sapped away |
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| 01:12.30 | Lunessa | launcher still doesn't patch for me. :( |
| 01:13.05 | Kirkburn | Lunessa, I'm not too surprised, it normally takes a while |
| 01:13.08 | Kaelten | Lunessa :( |
| 01:13.17 | Fatal5101 | Are there any special IDEs for UI Development ? |
| 01:13.27 | kd3 | notepad? |
| 01:13.36 | Cloudwolf | Uhm theres an online resource ive seen that allos you to position elements |
| 01:13.38 | Kirkburn | notepadd plus plus? |
| 01:13.47 | Mirrormn | WoW UI Designer |
| 01:13.49 | Fatal5101 | well that handles code aspect but what aout the visuals |
| 01:13.51 | Cloudwolf | that mirrormn |
| 01:13.58 | Mirrormn | but it's not really "finished" |
| 01:13.58 | Kaelten | Fatal5101: there was a visual studio inspired one that was neat but I found it to be lacking in some ways |
| 01:14.44 | Kaelten | awe man :( http://grab.by/5pld |
| 01:14.45 | Lunessa | If you're desperate for a good visual editor, pony up for XML Spy. :P |
| 01:15.01 | Kaelten | Lunessa: but who uses XML in addons any more |
| 01:15.02 | Cloudwolf | lol? |
| 01:15.08 | Cloudwolf | ugh xml |
| 01:15.11 | Mirrormn | the thing I like about WoW UI Designer is it incorporates a lua interpreter so it can catch your syntax errors before you actually load wow |
| 01:15.19 | Lunessa | Kaelten: You mean aside from me? :P |
| 01:15.21 | Kaelten | Mirrormn: that would be nice |
| 01:15.22 | Cloudwolf | i'll take my lua with a side of toc and hold the xml please |
| 01:15.25 | Kaelten | Lunessa: uhm, YES! |
| 01:15.33 | Kaelten | Cloudwolf: amen |
| 01:15.35 | Mirrormn | the thing I hate about WoW UI Designer is it has no replace feature at all! |
| 01:15.48 | Mirrormn | oh, WoW UI Designer also has code outlining, that is nice too |
| 01:15.59 | Mirrormn | but yeah, the lack of replace... pretty big problem |
| 01:16.10 | Cloudwolf | kaelten i have to assume that error is from the sc2 beta? |
| 01:16.16 | Kaelten | yes :( |
| 01:16.27 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 01:16.32 | Shirik | do you have a cataclysm key yet? |
| 01:16.36 | Cloudwolf | My computer has issues with sc2 |
| 01:16.52 | Cloudwolf | i can have like 300 units on the map and not lag in wc3 but 50 units in sc2 = BLARGH expoding computer |
| 01:17.39 | Kaelten | ouch |
| 01:17.48 | Kaelten | I just wanted to play some quick compesition wars or battlecraft! |
| 01:18.02 | Cloudwolf | Meh its what i get for having atleast a 3year old computer with no upgrades that was medium low end at the time |
| 01:18.02 | Shirik | hahahahaha |
| 01:18.03 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFvryuQZb5U |
| 01:18.10 | Shirik | the old spice guy is answering questions form twitter |
| 01:18.16 | WobWork | http://kottke.org/10/07/dueling-carls |
| 01:18.23 | Shirik | http://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/cp190/the_old_spice_man_responds_to_the_internet/ |
| 01:18.31 | Slackwise | Uh oh, my friend found an exploit in WoW... |
| 01:19.22 | Shirik | hacks@blizzard.com |
| 01:19.30 | Cloudwolf | rofl shirik |
| 01:19.50 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncg236DXGeg |
| 01:19.50 | Niv | well the good news is, I no longer get login server busy :) |
| 01:20.18 | lowlee | same here Niv :P |
| 01:20.45 | Niv | hehe |
| 01:21.55 | Cide | Shirik: that. is. awesome |
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| 01:22.50 | Dagmar | Shirik: More disturbing... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YekcscET0wc |
| 01:23.34 | WobWork | .... awesome |
| 01:23.56 | Cloudwolf | he must get uncomfortable holding htat positon also lol |
| 01:24.09 | WobWork | anyone that can dress like that, and do everything with such a straight face has a future in showbiz =P |
| 01:24.56 | Cloudwolf | Showbiz who needs showbiz hes got oldspice commericials lol |
| 01:26.22 | Dagmar | I'm sure he has no problems finding women to massage his poor muscles at the end of a hard day's work standing around looking swank |
| 01:26.28 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI3VohWMW1Q |
| 01:27.12 | WobWork | ... also her pancreas |
| 01:27.23 | Cloudwolf | i wonder how many takes |
| 01:27.26 | Cloudwolf | he has to do |
| 01:27.30 | WobWork | probably not too many |
| 01:27.40 | WobWork | they just have a raft of writers on hand, I'd say |
| 01:28.23 | WobWork | he's doing one every 5-10min or so |
| 01:28.34 | Cide | which is awesome |
| 01:28.39 | ScytheBlade1 | in other news, chrome has an incredible dev suite |
| 01:28.52 | ScytheBlade1 | almost to the point where I enjoyed creating that |
| 01:29.18 | Dagmar | WobWork: It's also entirely possible they're making up more than just the answers |
| 01:29.46 | Cide | ScytheBlade1, it has? |
| 01:29.47 | Cloudwolf | creating what scythe? |
| 01:30.01 | Lunessa | Dagmar One of the tweets he answers in that series is from his own twitter account. |
| 01:30.03 | ScytheBlade1 | just a bit of javascript to refresh two iframes at 2 minutes past the 15 |
| 01:30.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: not the wrench icon, but the one next to it -- under "Developer" |
| 01:30.52 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.01 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: still, it's an effective marketing campaign |
| 01:31.06 | ScytheBlade1 | WobWork: what is? |
| 01:31.12 | WobWork | the oldspice thing |
| 01:31.12 | Cide | not a great fan of the chrome dev suite |
| 01:31.21 | Dagmar | Yep. It's funny |
| 01:31.21 | Cide | I feel more at home in firebug still |
| 01:31.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I have no idea what you're talking about |
| 01:31.31 | Cide | but it's gotten a lot better |
| 01:31.41 | Cide | I don't like that I can't easily find the dimensions of an image in chrome |
| 01:32.05 | Dagmar | "That's because when you ask a question of someone wearing Old Spice, that person is the best smelling person you can ask, even if it's you." |
| 01:32.21 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah you can? |
| 01:32.29 | Cide | how? |
| 01:32.47 | Cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/user/oldspice#p/u/7/udyaLeMmUXE |
| 01:32.48 | Cloudwolf | rofl |
| 01:32.57 | ScytheBlade1 | elements view, you just click on the element in question |
| 01:33.00 | Dagmar | You can't tell me people aren't sending in questions like "Did you do my mom? |
| 01:33.32 | Cide | oh, neat |
| 01:33.37 | Cide | never seen the Metrics |
| 01:33.53 | Niv | "failed to apply patch" |
| 01:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | the resources tab is also very neat |
| 01:34.10 | Cide | yep |
| 01:34.15 | Cide | Niv, same |
| 01:35.09 | ScytheBlade1 | that _almost_ made it enjoyable |
| 01:35.11 | ScytheBlade1 | _almost_ |
| 01:35.41 | Niv | 7/13 18:34:36.194 Connecting to 12.129.236.252:1119 |
| 01:35.42 | Niv | 7/13 18:34:36.294 program=WoW component=WnUS patch=http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/WoW-4.0.0.12319-4.0.0.12479-x86-Win-enUS;wow-patch.MPQ;; |
| 01:35.45 | Niv | 7/13 18:34:36.294 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_DOWNLOADFILE result: LOGIN_OK |
| 01:35.47 | Niv | 7/13 18:34:36.294 Disconnected from fcec810c |
| 01:35.50 | Niv | 7/13 18:34:36.294 Downloading patch http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/WoW-4.0.0.12319-4.0.0.12479-x86-Win-enUS;wow-patch.MPQ;; |
| 01:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Niv: spam |
| 01:36.00 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 01:36.05 | Cloudwolf | uhm lol unbelieveably awkward old spice commercial |
| 01:36.06 | Niv | was meant to be 3 lines ;) |
| 01:36.09 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:36.15 | Niv | sorry |
| 01:36.21 | Cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/user/oldspice#p/u/10/_-fLV28SkZ8 |
| 01:36.24 | ScytheBlade1 | meh |
| 01:36.26 | Cloudwolf | *cough* uhm |
| 01:36.27 | ScytheBlade1 | as long as you know :) |
| 01:37.15 | Dagmar | Oh. my. gawd. |
| 01:38.24 | Cloudwolf | dagmar the marriage one? |
| 01:38.26 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 01:38.44 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 01:39.07 | Shadowed | oh wait |
| 01:39.17 | Shadowed | kd3, no 4.0 -> 4.0 patch diff? |
| 01:39.32 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:39.34 | Shirik | what? |
| 01:39.39 | kd3 | didn't I send one? |
| 01:39.44 | Shadowed | You sent 3.3.5 -> 4.0 |
| 01:39.57 | Shadowed | errr |
| 01:39.58 | Shadowed | disregard |
| 01:40.02 | kd3 | yes, yes I did |
| 01:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | p.s. The Dos Equis "The Most Interesting Man in the World" has nothing on you. |
| 01:41.03 | ScytheBlade1 | a youtube comment that I kinda agree with |
| 01:41.04 | ScytheBlade1 | shocking |
| 01:41.36 | Dagmar | Except perhaps, a wardrobe |
| 01:42.44 | Cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/user/oldspice#p/u/16/wiOiEmLIiJo |
| 01:42.48 | Cloudwolf | rofl ok im done linking those |
| 01:42.49 | WobWork | Cloudwolf: best prop department ever |
| 01:42.57 | Cide | Maldivia, did you add in the explanations in parentheses in your pastey? |
| 01:42.59 | Cloudwolf | yes wobwork yes it is lol |
| 01:42.59 | Cide | or are they part of the spells |
| 01:43.16 | Cloudwolf | theres so many of these wow |
| 01:43.59 | ScytheBlade1 | okay, that youtube channel is actually AMAZING |
| 01:44.15 | Cloudwolf | which one the old spice one or something that i wasn't paying attention to? |
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| 01:44.31 | kd3 | the hell? he's been doing this all day |
| 01:44.37 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: EXACTLY |
| 01:44.38 | Cloudwolf | yep |
| 01:44.47 | ScytheBlade1 | SO CONFUSED |
| 01:44.56 | Cloudwolf | O.o "no animals were harmed in this... but the cake was harmed by my mouth... it was delicious" |
| 01:44.58 | Cloudwolf | looool |
| 01:45.01 | ScytheBlade1 | He's standing with a towel on, answering questions from twitter and facebook |
| 01:45.02 | ScytheBlade1 | On demand |
| 01:47.40 | ScytheBlade1 | best job ever? or worst job ever? |
| 01:48.05 | Cloudwolf | Hard to say |
| 01:48.36 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BkKS_JXZHc |
| 01:49.08 | Corrodias | best. best. |
| 01:49.20 | Dashkal | "Tripping the Rifts" <-- win |
| 01:49.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Warloco (~theunknow@abarelds.xs4all.nl) |
| 01:49.44 | Cloudwolf | "And survive a kick in the abdominals by an elephant killing the elephant." lol |
| 01:50.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Whoever designed that marketing campaign is nothing short of a genius |
| 01:50.48 | Warloco | o/ |
| 01:50.55 | Cloudwolf | My god i want these to be played on tv |
| 01:51.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Most of them would be worthless without context |
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| 01:51.54 | Shirik | hahahahahahahahahaha |
| 01:51.55 | Shirik | omg |
| 01:51.58 | Shirik | I have to screenshot this |
| 01:52.04 | Shirik | this is my spam folder |
| 01:52.43 | Cloudwolf | afk |
| 01:52.51 | Cloudwolf | linkz? |
| 01:53.49 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFt78fd70Xw |
| 01:53.51 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/user/oldspice#p/u/107/DW25ApIyy4U |
| 01:53.51 | Shirik | taking forever to upload |
| 01:54.13 | WobWork | http://i.imgur.com/yHbmI.jpg |
| 01:56.08 | Shirik | epic spam box: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/bd63363bd414bb432edb20039c3d082f.png |
| 01:56.09 | Cloudwolf | slow internet or slow upload site? |
| 01:56.11 | Shirik | that's my spam mail |
| 01:56.23 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: weak, I've got MANY more |
| 01:56.29 | Shirik | that would only be the first page |
| 01:56.53 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 01:57.02 | Cloudwolf | i think i have my spam section set to auto delete |
| 01:58.24 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968669894&sid=1&pageNo=1#5 |
| 01:58.25 | kd3 | indeed |
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| 02:03.52 | Shirik | wow |
| 02:03.53 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCVhGzrAT0 |
| 02:04.00 | Shirik | I think old spice guy just trolled 4chan? |
| 02:04.26 | ScytheBlade1 | that will not end well |
| 02:04.36 | kd3 | lmao |
| 02:04.54 | ScytheBlade1 | ah cancer everywhere |
| 02:04.55 | kd3 | tabs open /b/ |
| 02:04.55 | Cide | rofl |
| 02:04.56 | ScytheBlade1 | why. would you do this to us old spice man |
| 02:05.39 | Shirik | kd3: http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/252001931 (NSFW) |
| 02:06.39 | Zyn | oh well, the new beta build can now be downloaded, just fire up the Launcher |
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| 02:07.12 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/84423/gnomish-portal-gun/ |
| 02:07.13 | Adys | WTBBBBBBB |
| 02:07.22 | kd3 | zomg |
| 02:07.35 | ScytheBlade1 | from the comments |
| 02:07.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Rule 34. on Isaiah Mustafa? |
| 02:07.40 | ScytheBlade1 | NOT ENDIN WELL |
| 02:07.44 | ScytheBlade1 | *ENGING |
| 02:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 02:07.45 | frontendloader | Shirik: Fantastic, the? surgeon is delighted |
| 02:07.48 | ScytheBlade1 | *ENDING |
| 02:07.48 | Shirik | is that his name? |
| 02:07.52 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 02:08.50 | ScytheBlade1 | the youtube description is the best |
| 02:09.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I have no idea what the "rules" are but hey |
| 02:11.02 | erikd | do any of you know if you can debug lua in wow with decoda? |
| 02:11.07 | cralor | patch up ppl! |
| 02:11.11 | Dagmar | Rule 34 is kinda important. |
| 02:11.20 | ScytheBlade1 | afk sleep |
| 02:11.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I know what 34 is |
| 02:11.25 | Mirrormn | rule 34 is the only one I know |
| 02:11.25 | ScytheBlade1 | but that is it |
| 02:11.27 | ScytheBlade1 | afk sleep |
| 02:12.29 | Shirik | I still can't believe he did that |
| 02:12.50 | Dagmar | Walk Urban Dictionary for them |
| 02:15.02 | Jerub | no one is on quake livetoday :( |
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| 02:22.32 | Niv | horay for patching |
| 02:25.48 | Warloco | question o.o, how come it went 1-50 51-100 101-150 151-198? |
| 02:26.01 | Kraps | people still play quake? |
| 02:27.29 | kd3 | ahaha at the goblin female /sillys |
| 02:27.49 | Yssaril | servers are up? |
| 02:28.01 | Kraps | wasnt vengeance supposed to be the 3rd tank mastery? |
| 02:28.11 | tem | vengeance is the 2nd tank mastery |
| 02:28.19 | tem | the special damage reduction abilities are the third tank masteries |
| 02:28.28 | tem | crit block |
| 02:28.32 | tem | life shield |
| 02:28.36 | tem | extra block |
| 02:28.41 | tem | savage defense? |
| 02:28.55 | WobWork | what's the windows command line app to list the open ports and connections? |
| 02:28.57 | kd3 | "I'm a free spirit. I don't like to be tied down. ...What? Oh, you mean literally? Oh, no. Totally in to that." |
| 02:29.19 | Kraps | according to this it comes with your tank spec at level 10 http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ |
| 02:29.19 | tem | kd3, you didn't see those when they were posted to wow.com? |
| 02:29.31 | kd3 | is skimming through the mpqs |
| 02:29.44 | tem | Kraps, the third masteries are all from the "Mastery" spell you learn at level 75 |
| 02:30.08 | tem | the thing that is improved by the mastery stat |
| 02:31.08 | cralor | and the patch did nothing to fix the issue =/ |
| 02:32.27 | Kraps | no new trees? :( |
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| 02:33.01 | Niv | omfg |
| 02:33.04 | Niv | back to login server busy |
| 02:33.39 | Ressy | :( |
| 02:33.45 | Ressy | Servers still aren't up anyways. |
| 02:34.14 | Niv | sure, but that means we're likely still boned |
| 02:37.13 | Niv | hrmm, I wonder if the people who can login, don't use authenticators... |
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| 02:37.38 | Niv | is there anyone who can't login, that doesn't use an authenticator? |
| 02:38.27 | Xinhuan | WobWork: netstat -a |
| 02:38.32 | cralor | this sucks! |
| 02:38.45 | Xinhuan | or you can use TCPView.exe, a utility from microsoft |
| 02:40.27 | WobWork | Xinhuan: thank you =) |
| 02:42.01 | Shirik | This page has a large edit history of over 5,000 revisions. |
| 02:42.01 | Shirik | Deletion of such pages has been restricted to stewards to prevent accidental disruption of Wikipedia. Please contact one for assistance. |
| 02:42.04 | Shirik | :( |
| 02:42.16 | Cide | what page? |
| 02:42.23 | Shirik | [[Walt Disney World Resort]] |
| 02:42.30 | Cide | why would you delete it? |
| 02:42.39 | Shirik | To perform what's known as a "selective deletion" |
| 02:42.43 | Shirik | to remove the last 14 revisions |
| 02:42.46 | Cide | ah |
| 02:43.04 | Shirik | no big deal |
| 02:43.08 | Shirik | the history's just annoying |
| 02:45.08 | Cide | perfectionist |
| 02:45.20 | WobWork | revisionist history =) |
| 02:46.12 | Kraps | these are the new trees? |
| 02:46.19 | Shirik | trees suck |
| 02:46.20 | Shirik | priests win |
| 02:46.50 | Kraps | i agree Shirik but not thosethrees |
| 02:46.56 | Kraps | grr |
| 02:47.37 | Kraps | (this is so weird) |
| 02:48.09 | Kraps | why didnt boub link them? in the front page? |
| 02:50.28 | Ressy | Anyone else not able to view the new talent cals from mmo-champ? |
| 02:50.54 | kd3 | they're probably being worked on |
| 02:50.58 | Ressy | ah |
| 02:51.06 | Kraps | http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warrior#SHRGmJv,,12479 |
| 02:51.36 | Ressy | TY! |
| 02:52.02 | Dashkal | yay, install complete... maintainence... |
| 02:53.15 | Ressy | aww... SoL's changed. :( |
| 02:53.40 | Kraps | those trees look quite poor |
| 02:53.57 | Cloudwolf | wait a minute. So they are giving you no talent points for leveling up? |
| 02:54.02 | Ressy | no reason to take SoL now. |
| 02:54.03 | Cloudwolf | or do you only get talent poitns every 2 levels now? |
| 02:54.15 | Kraps | Cloudwolf: about every 2 |
| 02:54.19 | Cloudwolf | annoying |
| 02:54.22 | Cloudwolf | but what ever |
| 02:54.35 | Kraps | alternating with new skills |
| 02:54.46 | Kraps | or something |
| 02:55.06 | cralor | ya talent point/skill alternating |
| 02:55.45 | Cloudwolf | improved expose armor is nice |
| 02:56.06 | Kraps | halp i feel like i stopped watching a movie less then halfway through |
| 02:57.38 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: they've reoved most of the +10% to damage/healing/whatever talents |
| 02:57.46 | Cloudwolf | I realize that jerub |
| 02:58.06 | Cloudwolf | I guess i don't mind but it just feels like getting less even though im sure its actualy more :P |
| 02:58.27 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: it certainly will make chosing talents less of a chore. |
| 02:58.37 | Cloudwolf | which i look forward to |
| 02:58.40 | Jerub | however, i notice 'Field Dressing' is still there |
| 02:58.56 | Kraps | still? never seen that |
| 02:59.07 | Jerub | Kraps: it's just a +x% effect talent |
| 02:59.16 | Yssaril | those trees still need some a lot of work |
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| 02:59.30 | kd3 | they said this is only the first pass, they're far from done |
| 02:59.45 | Cloudwolf | i wonder if its accurate that nonoe of the abilities require another ability any more |
| 02:59.52 | Cloudwolf | or if thats just this is still so under dev |
| 03:00.01 | NightHawkTheSane | could be both. |
| 03:00.07 | Kraps | yeah, they put back the +heal to Focused Will in Disc |
| 03:00.21 | Kraps | which is wrong |
| 03:01.02 | Cloudwolf | herp? frotfire orb? converst yoru flame orb into a frostfire orb inceases your forstfire damage by 30%? so wait mages are getting that fire orb spell from like those boss fights the ones that kinda go in a line and just pew pew lasers? |
| 03:01.29 | Kraps | Cloudwolf: old |
| 03:01.33 | kd3 | cloud; yes, at 81 |
| 03:01.36 | Cloudwolf | new to me kraps new to me |
| 03:01.42 | Kraps | mmk |
| 03:01.45 | kd3 | it's been all kinds of broken for every build since they first patched it in |
| 03:01.52 | Cloudwolf | I wasn't realying looking into mages too much >.> i should have cus i just got a mage to 80 lol |
| 03:02.14 | kd3 | (gotta face a certain way, a precise distance from the target, hits for crap...). they're just trying to get it working atm |
| 03:02.49 | Kraps | is disappoint |
| 03:06.43 | Kraps | i like the shorter trees |
| 03:07.00 | Kraps | feels like theres no pants on |
| 03:07.12 | Yssaril | looks like they added compact Unit frames to the mix this patch |
| 03:07.30 | kd3 | yes indeed. wtb servers so I can play with them |
| 03:07.38 | erikd | ditto |
| 03:07.45 | Yssaril | also a Archaeology UI |
| 03:08.30 | cralor | when does blizzard's day end? |
| 03:08.54 | Kraps | never ever |
| 03:09.23 | Cloudwolf | When california finnaly has an earthquake that seperates half of its state from the other half and it slowly drifts away |
| 03:09.41 | theorbtwo | No, that just means they need to rejig the zone maps. |
| 03:09.42 | Kraps | bibi lives in france? |
| 03:10.28 | Cloudwolf | WTB more patience because i seem to be lacking :D |
| 03:12.16 | Ressy | unit frames hm? |
| 03:12.38 | Kraps | pics or blah blah blah |
| 03:13.16 | cralor | seriously though, when do they close? |
| 03:13.39 | cralor | or are the server people not part of the same schedule? |
| 03:14.01 | Ressy | Man, they have TS all night now.. I doubt they close at all. |
| 03:14.12 | Kraps | do large corporations ever really "close"? |
| 03:14.20 | Ressy | They moved Datth (a TS rep) from days, to overnights... |
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| 03:14.34 | Cloudwolf | cralor they have tech support 24/7 i think they would also have IT dudes 24/7 |
| 03:14.41 | Kraps | except for weekend/holidays |
| 03:14.42 | Ressy | TS 24/7 is new. |
| 03:14.49 | Ressy | They even do weekend/holidays. |
| 03:14.57 | Ressy | Hell, alpha got a hotfix on a holiday weekend. |
| 03:17.00 | SeanK | I haz beta! ty wowi |
| 03:17.47 | Ressy | Any bets as to whether the guild tab will be back? lawl |
| 03:18.08 | Shadowed | It's in dev still |
| 03:18.11 | Shadowed | it'll be back when it's done |
| 03:18.12 | Cairenn | SeanK: you're welcome |
| 03:18.18 | Cloudwolf | grats seanK i still need mine :P |
| 03:18.45 | Cairenn | We're waiting to get the next batch of keys from Blizz. |
| 03:18.50 | Cloudwolf | I read |
| 03:18.58 | Cloudwolf | and i understand i'm just anxious :D |
| 03:19.02 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:19.43 | cralor | I hope a resolution can be found tomorrow! |
| 03:19.46 | Cloudwolf | so cairenn do you know why it went 50 50 50 48? |
| 03:19.53 | cralor | out of keys |
| 03:19.57 | Cairenn | Cloudwolf: because we were down a couple keys |
| 03:20.03 | Cloudwolf | Ah |
| 03:20.45 | Shadowed | counting is hard! |
| 03:21.01 | Cloudwolf | 1 2 20 500 1000 3 |
| 03:21.29 | Cloudwolf | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a 11 12 13 14 f |
| 03:21.50 | Cloudwolf | well gnight people |
| 03:22.04 | Dashkal | kd3: Do you get any sound issues "popping" when running the beta client? |
| 03:22.14 | kd3 | nope |
| 03:22.28 | Dashkal | hmm |
| 03:24.40 | Dashkal | annoying. The only combination that avoids it is pasuspender and wine set to use oss. pasuspender/alsa gives me nothing. |
| 03:25.03 | kd3 | set up alsa to use alsa directly and not pulse? |
| 03:25.11 | Dashkal | bleh |
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| 03:25.19 | Dashkal | this is going to be bloddy aggrivating |
| 03:25.36 | Dashkal | shooting pulse is fine, but ubuntu is gonna fight me here. |
| 03:26.00 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/138566 |
| 03:26.13 | kd3 | my .asoundrc. that, and I wiped out alsa-plugins-pulse |
| 03:26.16 | kd3 | poof |
| 03:26.22 | kd3 | pulse is still installed, but I'm not using it |
| 03:26.31 | Yssaril | anyone know if there is a way to get texture dimensions ingame? (actual pixel size of the blp) |
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| 03:28.59 | batrick | Can anyone link me to an appropriate page (google turns up nothing) on using a regular bit torrent client for downloading cata |
| 03:29.20 | batrick | (probably from wowwiki?) |
| 03:30.00 | Jamash | extract .torrent file from downloader using torrentextract script |
| 03:30.11 | batrick | where do i get that script? |
| 03:30.21 | kd3 | google 'wowtorrentex' |
| 03:30.39 | kd3 | hell, we may link to it on the wiki |
| 03:30.57 | Jamash | http://www.wowwiki.com/Blizzard_Downloader#elinks-item-external |
| 03:31.12 | kd3 | indeed we do |
| 03:31.29 | kd3 | the capnbry link will get the torrent out of the downloader exe. or it should, in any case |
| 03:32.58 | Xyphoid | sweet engineering stuff |
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| 03:38.43 | Zyn | http://stream.shatteredminds.net/ , oh god I'm in |
| 03:44.31 | cog|away | Sixen: i made this sentence with you in mind: " I have many friends on whose feet, off I wrongly got." |
| 03:44.51 | cog|away | makes English his bitch |
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| 03:45.58 | Dashkal | Yep, it was definitely pulse. Shot it dead. |
| 03:46.26 | Cide | http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/13/boeing-phantom-eye-unmanned-spy-plane-stays-aloft-four-days-sor/ |
| 03:46.29 | Cide | gee, thanks, shirik |
| 03:48.24 | batrick | well, simply opening the file in vim, stripping everything until d8:announce was certainly easy :) |
| 03:50.34 | Shirik | oh they released that? |
| 03:50.44 | Shadowed | Shirik is going to kill us all |
| 03:50.51 | Shadowed | when he accidentally divides by zero |
| 03:51.02 | Shadowed | Hopefully it crash lands into Fisker's house |
| 03:51.27 | Cide | shirik: you mean "we"? |
| 03:51.37 | Shirik | well I didn't work on it |
| 03:51.41 | Cide | I know you had a finger in on the impending doom |
| 03:52.09 | Cide | anyway sleepytime |
| 03:52.10 | Cide | night |
| 03:54.24 | erikd | are the servers back up? |
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| 03:57.08 | Niv | doesn't matter much for me, login servers are busy |
| 03:57.40 | Cairenn | ugh, still? |
| 03:57.44 | Niv | yea =/ |
| 03:57.55 | Cairenn | Wish I knew what to tell you guys |
| 03:57.57 | Niv | no love on the forums either, they seem to have their hands full patching |
| 03:58.02 | Niv | hey, it's not your fault :P |
| 03:58.31 | Lunessa | I got in for 15 seconds. |
| 03:58.32 | Cairenn | I know, but I still feel bad. Everyone all excited about the keys (us too!), and then no joy |
| 03:58.52 | Niv | Lunessa: I'd take that |
| 03:58.58 | Niv | at least then it's world server ;) |
| 03:59.43 | Lunessa | Niv, I'm able to get in to the login server, but I get kicked out after the loading screen completes. So, I expect things to be crazy for a while longer. |
| 03:59.52 | Dashkal | *blinks* |
| 03:59.57 | Niv | yea, I can't even get that far ;) |
| 04:00.11 | Niv | 7/13 20:51:19.774 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_FAILED result: LOGIN_AUTH_OUTAGE |
| 04:00.14 | Cairenn | I /really/ hope they get the keys sorted out soon |
| 04:00.25 | Dashkal | kd3: Sorry to pester you again on this: "Runtime Error! R6034 An application has made an attempt to load the C runtime library incorrectly." |
| 04:00.29 | Lunessa | I did however note that "Compact Raid Frames" looks new as a blizzard addon |
| 04:00.38 | kd3 | what version of wine are you running? |
| 04:00.41 | Dashkal | Occurs when I click login. |
| 04:01.00 | Cairenn | The /only/ reason I'm not as upset about it is because it isn't just keys from us, it's all the keys that have been handed out this week, including ones to press |
| 04:01.04 | Dashkal | kd3: 1.2rc7 |
| 04:01.11 | kd3 | hrm. sec |
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| 04:01.29 | ckknight | Cairenn: what's going on? |
| 04:01.40 | Lunessa | Im just going to play on live for a little. :) |
| 04:01.41 | Cairenn | ckknight: anyone that got beta keys this week can't log in |
| 04:01.50 | ckknight | hmm |
| 04:02.17 | Zyn | anyone that is in the beta currently can't login or do shit |
| 04:02.22 | Zyn | World Server is down |
| 04:02.24 | Zyn | :P |
| 04:02.35 | Jerub | what about to old school wow? is that broken for beta testers? |
| 04:02.45 | Cairenn | and trying to log into the beta forums is a crap shoot, too |
| 04:03.15 | airtonix | lol "old skool" |
| 04:03.16 | kd3 | dash; weird. I'd almost chalk that up to busted cache or something. that's the only time I ever see that |
| 04:03.17 | Niv | there are some folks who got keys that were able to get in |
| 04:03.19 | Niv | nevcairiel for example |
| 04:03.26 | airtonix | anything two days old now is old skool ? |
| 04:03.34 | Dashkal | kd3: Suggestions on which files to nuke? |
| 04:03.36 | kd3 | you may want to consider `winetricks vcrun2005` to install the c runtime blizz is using for wow |
| 04:03.43 | Dashkal | kk |
| 04:03.47 | kd3 | "<wow>/Cache" |
| 04:03.51 | kd3 | is usually where I'd start |
| 04:05.14 | Dashkal | That fixed it. nuked my WDB and installed the runtime |
| 04:05.21 | kd3 | ooh, nifty. saw the talent ui for a few seconds before the world server crashed |
| 04:05.36 | Dashkal | only to discover I didn't finish patching. nice :P |
| 04:05.43 | Dashkal | Thank you much, making progress again |
| 04:05.49 | kd3 | np |
| 04:06.52 | kd3 | and blah. we're still behind the devs on talent builds |
| 04:11.16 | mikma | cairenn: (100% joke) thanks for nothing! first getting our hopes up then you wont us login the game!!11oneone |
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| 04:11.24 | Cairenn | mikma: heh |
| 04:11.50 | mikma | i left my pc to patch beta when i went to bed |
| 04:11.52 | Shirik | tem |
| 04:11.56 | Shirik | save me |
| 04:12.04 | mikma | it was still patching when i woke up 7,5h later |
| 04:12.11 | kd3 | whee, LI just crashed. ;) |
| 04:12.18 | kd3 | wouldn't want to be in the server room right now |
| 04:12.24 | mikma | tem: shirik requires one nsfs image |
| 04:12.33 | Shirik | kd3: Sounds like my perforce server today |
| 04:12.42 | Ackis | yikes there's a lot of patches for this beta thang |
| 04:12.44 | Shirik | maybe they're operated in the same room o.o |
| 04:12.51 | tem | Shirik? |
| 04:13.04 | Ackis | I'm on 12479, am I almost done? |
| 04:13.05 | Shirik | I just yelled at 2 officers and all the healers on my raid team for being morons |
| 04:13.12 | kd3 | ackis; that's today's build |
| 04:13.19 | Ackis | thanks kd3 |
| 04:13.40 | Shirik | I didn't phrase it like that, of course |
| 04:13.44 | Shirik | but that's what it boiled down to |
| 04:13.56 | tem | ruh roh |
| 04:14.05 | *** join/#wowuidev Borgleader (~borgleade@modemcable253.146-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 04:15.02 | kd3 | blah, still no gnomish starting experience. :( |
| 04:15.11 | Ackis | Shirik: I yell at myself for that all the time |
| 04:15.27 | Zyn | pretty, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3688889/sulfuronspire.jpg |
| 04:19.38 | kd3 | gah! |
| 04:19.42 | kd3 | they turned off /run |
| 04:20.05 | Shirik | :( |
| 04:20.19 | Shirik | and /script? |
| 04:20.37 | kd3 | yes |
| 04:20.43 | Shirik | wow |
| 04:20.43 | Shirik | fail |
| 04:20.46 | Yssaril | kd3 got a screenshot of these compact unit frames? |
| 04:20.55 | kd3 | no. I'm trying to see what I can do |
| 04:21.07 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 04:21.12 | Shirik | there's got to be a way |
| 04:21.26 | Shirik | what's the equivalent of a buffer overflow vulnerability in a 3D game |
| 04:21.36 | Shirik | some way to inject lua code somewhere to run |
| 04:22.03 | Jerub | Shirik: a buffer overflow vulnerability |
| 04:22.07 | Shirik | ... |
| 04:22.10 | Shirik | YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN |
| 04:22.27 | Jerub | yes, but you don't |
| 04:22.35 | Shirik | I want a way to inject Lua |
| 04:22.35 | Mirrormn | if you could do a buffer overflow, you'd be able to run c code |
| 04:22.42 | Mirrormn | so why would you run lua |
| 04:22.46 | Shirik | ... |
| 04:22.49 | Shirik | because I want to run Lua |
| 04:22.52 | kd3 | because it's not the c enviro I'm interested in atm |
| 04:22.55 | kd3 | it's the lua enviro |
| 04:22.55 | Shirik | I didn't think this was such a difficult concept to grasp |
| 04:23.25 | Shirik | I blame Jerub |
| 04:23.45 | Mirrormn | well you could use the C api to give the lua interpreter instructions and then call them, I guess |
| 04:24.31 | Shirik | kd3 |
| 04:24.33 | Shirik | I'm curious |
| 04:24.48 | Shirik | what about strings WoW.exe | grep "/run" |
| 04:25.06 | Shirik | hm I guess it probably wouldn't be in there |
| 04:25.47 | Shirik | old-school mpq extractors still work, right? |
| 04:25.55 | kd3 | yes |
| 04:26.08 | kd3 | hugs ladik's mpq viewer |
| 04:26.12 | Shirik | I'm curious if the code for it is still in there |
| 04:26.17 | Shirik | or if they really just removed it outright |
| 04:26.48 | Jerub | if you can do a buffer overflow, which is by far the eaiest thing to exploit, you can jump to the lua handling code and start interpreting arbitary code. |
| 04:27.10 | Jerub | getting into the lua execution environment using lua code without using a buffer overflow will be much harder. |
| 04:27.11 | Shirik | actually |
| 04:27.25 | Shirik | doing a buffer overflow on wow is impossible except on like 10-year-old systems |
| 04:27.52 | Shirik | wow runs in full DEP mode, meaning you can't turn it off if you wanted to |
| 04:27.59 | Shirik | the only way you can turn it off is by modifying your boot configuration |
| 04:28.24 | Jerub | VM :) |
| 04:30.01 | Shadowed | Shirik: they commented out /script and /dump in Lua |
| 04:30.07 | Shadowed | as far as I know the C API is still there |
| 04:30.23 | Shirik | just the line that creates the command? |
| 04:30.25 | Shadowed | yes |
| 04:30.30 | Shirik | so the code is still there then |
| 04:30.35 | Shirik | all you have to do is find a way to get it called |
| 04:30.37 | Shadowed | should be |
| 04:32.08 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~Ryan@c-98-251-190-189.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 04:32.46 | Ackis | heh login server is currently shitting itself, please go away :) |
| 04:33.02 | Niv | Ackis: the busy error? |
| 04:33.15 | Ackis | yeah |
| 04:33.17 | Niv | that's something wrong with our accounts |
| 04:33.23 | Ackis | ah |
| 04:33.25 | Ackis | fun |
| 04:33.28 | Niv | yea =/ |
| 04:33.36 | Niv | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968569687&sid=2000 |
| 04:34.49 | Ackis | I can't even select a character to post with |
| 04:37.48 | Niv | yea |
| 04:37.54 | Cairenn | Ackis: same |
| 04:37.56 | Niv | there's a live thread crosslinked |
| 04:38.05 | Niv | because half the people seem to have that problem |
| 04:38.30 | kd3 | oh, fail. their breaking of /run broke the blizz_feedbackUI |
| 04:38.43 | Thunder_Child | "http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/da87/" >.< |
| 04:38.47 | Cairenn | I can actually log into game (when the servers/worlds are up), but I can't select a character to post with |
| 04:38.49 | Yssaril | how so kd3? |
| 04:38.57 | kd3 | not getting the auto-prompts for quest completion |
| 04:39.15 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: ROFL |
| 04:39.16 | Yssaril | ah lol |
| 04:40.01 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: i knew you would like that..... |
| 04:40.56 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v71Dtj2W7pw |
| 04:42.52 | Shirik | Dear Owner...Sorry For Writing That Stuff but whats the point of having an edit button if you dont want people like me coming along just block it cause that just gives me and others the freedom to write what ever we want its not like i hacked into the website to write it the edit button was available for any persom to use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.139.208 (talk) 11:51 am, Today (UTC−7) |
| 04:43.07 | Shirik | I'm not sure what's worse |
| 04:43.12 | Shirik | the intelligence of this person |
| 04:43.22 | Shirik | or the fact that he failed to realize the warning I gave him was placed in February |
| 04:46.24 | Kraps | It's not just you! http://www.mmo-champion.com looks down from here. |
| 04:46.32 | Bibi | yeah |
| 04:46.35 | Bibi | we're getting a new tech team soon. |
| 04:47.33 | nicoli_s | gotta make that gateway stop being bad |
| 04:47.50 | SeanK | wowzers the beta is huge! patch after patch after patch |
| 04:48.31 | Cairenn | SeanK: yup |
| 04:48.51 | Ackis | hey Bibi mmo-champ is down if you didn't know |
| 04:48.56 | Ackis | should I tell Adys too? |
| 04:49.00 | Bibi | no |
| 04:49.02 | Bibi | we can't do anything |
| 04:49.08 | Bibi | we work 15 hours, finally push content |
| 04:49.13 | Bibi | then get raped because tech team sucks |
| 04:51.01 | Bibi | (yes I'm angry) |
| 04:51.08 | Ackis | yeah you should be |
| 04:51.16 | Ackis | tech team == your web server duders? |
| 04:51.17 | kd3 | that sounds like some of the bitching I do at wikia... >.> |
| 04:52.20 | nicoli_s | this is why you should have built the site on top off facebook! |
| 04:52.27 | Ackis | it's been raining all night and we hear a kitten crying outside =/ |
| 04:52.33 | cogwheel | :( |
| 04:52.52 | Ackis | chantelle is out trying to look for it |
| 04:52.59 | Ackis | I have no pants/shirt on |
| 04:53.09 | Ackis | (dog puked on the couch and I kinda laid in it) |
| 04:53.15 | cogwheel | t |
| 04:53.16 | cogwheel | m |
| 04:53.16 | cogwheel | i |
| 04:53.27 | Ackis | what makes that even worse, is the dog puke consisted of cat shit |
| 04:53.27 | cogwheel | or... |
| 04:53.32 | cogwheel | you should've just gone out with her. |
| 04:53.40 | cogwheel | you could've cleaned yourself off AND found the kitten |
| 04:53.44 | cogwheel | gogo rain |
| 04:53.52 | Ackis | it's not raining now silly goose |
| 04:54.04 | cogwheel | mmmm... kitty almond roca |
| 04:54.05 | nicoli_s | poor kitty |
| 04:55.03 | Dashkal | What's the current build #? |
| 04:55.26 | cogwheel | 12479 |
| 04:55.30 | Dashkal | danke |
| 04:55.40 | Dashkal | and drat. at least one more after this. |
| 04:56.19 | mikma | meh |
| 04:56.25 | Kraps | Shirik http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/3411eed6-b4d0-4762-9f8c-b4e24fc0016f.jpg |
| 04:56.58 | mikma | bibi likes to be raped by tech team? |
| 04:58.04 | Ackis | operation kitty rescue commenced |
| 04:58.11 | Ackis | plays the A-team music |
| 04:59.09 | Kraps | bets 10 bucks that he messed up his dad's work-related email :( |
| 04:59.14 | Ackis | I hear meowing, not sure if it's Chantelle or the cat |
| 04:59.17 | erikd | jeez, these new talent trees look tiny |
| 04:59.26 | mikma | ackis is hnunting for food |
| 04:59.49 | mikma | tonight, kitty-soup |
| 04:59.57 | cogwheel | mmm chinee foo |
| 05:00.18 | Ackis | kinda funny but not right now, hold eating kitty jokes til after the situation |
| 05:00.24 | Ackis | although I'm not really helping |
| 05:00.29 | mikma | gotta get some bull with black beans, its delicious |
| 05:00.51 | cogwheel | Ackis: pfft.. keep your context to yourself. /me eats a kitteh |
| 05:01.14 | Ackis | :P |
| 05:01.23 | mikma | devour, devour, sufficate your own.. eh |
| 05:02.04 | Ackis | we don't have any wet cat food, trying to coax it out with a laser pointer and catnip =/ |
| 05:02.18 | mikma | like fat bastard said: GET IN MY BELLY! |
| 05:02.37 | cogwheel | No fat bastard jokes. wait until the situation is over please |
| 05:02.49 | Ackis | ~cogwheel-- |
| 05:02.50 | Ackis | :P |
| 05:03.08 | mikma | reputation lost |
| 05:03.12 | cogwheel | burn! |
| 05:04.08 | cogwheel | <-- proud bastard |
| 05:04.30 | cogwheel | i don't know why when i was a kid i would always brag about it. maybe cause 'bastard' was on the verge of bad words |
| 05:05.21 | Jerub | If we're supposed to work in Hex, why have we only got A fingers? |
| 05:05.38 | cogwheel | i know right? |
| 05:05.42 | mikma | cogwheel: and now that you know the truth, it hurts a little, doesn't it? |
| 05:05.49 | erikd | thinks jerub reads hacker news |
| 05:05.54 | cogwheel | even 8 fingers would make hex much easier to grok |
| 05:06.39 | Dashkal | Too bad the incremental patches don't do that cool download/install trick the beta itself did. |
| 05:06.53 | cogwheel | mikma: especially since i threw around four letter words like they were going out of style... thanks george carlin ;) |
| 05:06.53 | Fisker | oh lol kd3 |
| 05:07.00 | Fisker | they finally made username not return a value? |
| 05:07.00 | Mirrormn | hopefully production patches from now on will |
| 05:07.06 | Mirrormn | I liked that |
| 05:07.23 | Fisker | claps sarcastically |
| 05:08.05 | mikma | pokes beta into fisker |
| 05:09.00 | mikma | fisker: http://www.mikma.eu/misc/wow.png |
| 05:09.24 | Fisker | funny you should mention that |
| 05:10.10 | Mirrormn | 1.1GB patch downloading at 40KB/s does not make me very happy |
| 05:10.24 | cogwheel | ouch |
| 05:10.53 | cogwheel | bye for now, mcrun... http://cogwheel.pastey.net/138568-lga7 |
| 05:10.56 | Mirrormn | I'm uploading faster than I'm downloading on ADSL! |
| 05:11.00 | mikma | 8am, 22.8°C, forecast says extreme thunderstorms |
| 05:11.07 | cogwheel | Mirrormn: double ouch |
| 05:12.23 | SeanK | 12479 is coming down!!!! |
| 05:12.26 | mikma | cogwheel: so they disabled /script? |
| 05:12.43 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (~Wobwork@234.128.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 05:12.52 | Fisker | WobWork my man |
| 05:13.00 | mikma | and /dump =I |
| 05:13.02 | cogwheel | fuy |
| 05:13.06 | kd3 | dump too? grr |
| 05:13.09 | cogwheel | s/fuy/yup |
| 05:13.21 | kd3 | there go my plans at getting info out this build |
| 05:13.23 | Adys | Hint: /run still works with a bit of tweaks |
| 05:13.23 | mikma | mean bastards |
| 05:13.25 | Adys | runs off |
| 05:13.29 | Mirrormn | it looks like the HTTP direct download is refusing to service me |
| 05:13.55 | Sixen | cogwheel: <3. ilu |
| 05:14.04 | Fisker | OMG WAT |
| 05:14.05 | Fisker | OMG |
| 05:14.05 | Sixen | Just saw your message :P |
| 05:14.06 | Fisker | OMG |
| 05:14.09 | mikma | cogwheel: what about /run? =D |
| 05:14.13 | Fisker | •Purifying Power - When you Cleanse a harmful effect, you have a 50/100% chance to strike the the caster of the harmful effect with your Judgement ability.(Talent, ) |
| 05:14.14 | Fisker | lol wtf |
| 05:14.20 | cogwheel | mikma: lern2slashcommandarchitecture |
| 05:14.21 | cogwheel | :P |
| 05:14.28 | Mirrormn | that's pretty neat |
| 05:14.28 | Fisker | naw |
| 05:15.29 | Dashkal | Mirrormn: Sorry, I took the http slot :P Mind oyu, I'm getting a whopping 200 when I was getting 800 for the beta itself |
| 05:15.42 | Lunessa | Intesting... I get booted off from characters in SW, but a toon in Dalaran just hangs at a full loading bar. |
| 05:15.53 | mikma | cogwheel: well i cant see what run does! its nnot in the pastey. amagad |
| 05:16.15 | mikma | soon the driller is ready and we can get to work |
| 05:16.44 | mikma | exploding the wall off so workers can build concrete there |
| 05:16.46 | cogwheel | mikma: synonymous slash commands share a common handler... /run IS /script |
| 05:16.47 | mikma | -> |
| 05:16.49 | Adys | blizzard is fighting hopelessly |
| 05:17.35 | Adys | i count 4 ways that still work to get /run working, and a couple for addons too... |
| 05:18.02 | kd3 | not that we can load addons atm |
| 05:18.03 | Xyphoid | purifying power is hilarious |
| 05:18.09 | NeoTron | so destro warlocks need to pick up talents for soul fire and searing pain to progress in the tree |
| 05:18.14 | Adys | kd3, cough |
| 05:18.15 | Xyphoid | cleanse hunter's mark 5 minutes later |
| 05:18.27 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 05:18.28 | Fisker | amirite? |
| 05:18.49 | SeanK | I are not smart. Why is /run important you can't run an addon from run can you? |
| 05:19.08 | Mirrormn | how could they share a handler if it's an anonymous function |
| 05:19.09 | cogwheel | SeanK: http://cogwheel.info/wow/McRun.html |
| 05:19.11 | Adys | more or less everything you can do in an addon, you can do in /run |
| 05:19.21 | Adys | nd more to the point, you can run an addon from /run |
| 05:19.36 | Adys | but im getting off-channel on this.. |
| 05:20.11 | Xyphoid | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/84342/loot-a-rang/ |
| 05:20.24 | Fisker | what was so important in the patch that mmoc went down Adys? :P |
| 05:21.03 | Adys | Fisker, #mmo-champion for that |
| 05:21.08 | Ackis | anyone want a kitten update? |
| 05:21.21 | Ackis | turns out that it's a litter of kittens |
| 05:21.25 | cogwheel | Ackis: ya |
| 05:21.36 | Ackis | she saw at least three, they're about a week old |
| 05:21.51 | Fisker | kittens |
| 05:21.52 | SeanK | cogwheel: reminds me of meta programming with partial template expansion. good on you. |
| 05:22.13 | Adys | Fisker: actually well |
| 05:22.15 | Mirrormn | http://www.penny-arcade.com/patv/blamimations/108/ seems relevant in this situation |
| 05:22.19 | cogwheel | SeanK: you mean like this: http://cogwheel.info/idop/ ? |
| 05:22.22 | Adys | agora just thought it'd be a great idea to remove servers |
| 05:22.25 | Fisker | bibi already told me btw :D |
| 05:22.30 | Adys | a day before patch |
| 05:22.31 | Adys | kay |
| 05:22.37 | Fisker | but yeah that sucks |
| 05:22.55 | SeanK | you are a rare man cogwheel. |
| 05:23.25 | Fisker | patch downloads are slow mikma |
| 05:24.27 | Lunessa | I'm able to login - but only to the Worgen starting area. |
| 05:25.17 | Fisker | anyway kd3 |
| 05:25.21 | Fisker | was i correct? |
| 05:25.39 | Lunessa | And the Death Knight area as a goblin. |
| 05:25.46 | kd3 | hm? |
| 05:25.52 | kd3 | grrs at EK/kali constantly crashing |
| 05:25.56 | Fisker | the username cvar stopped returning values? |
| 05:26.14 | kd3 | it would be smart if that was the case |
| 05:26.25 | Fisker | only took them 5 years |
| 05:26.33 | WobWork | Ackis: ... I totally read your kitten update as 'a liter of kittens' |
| 05:26.48 | WobWork | and wondered if that's the official measurement |
| 05:28.00 | Fisker | why are you abusing kittens anyway? |
| 05:28.03 | WobWork | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgT9EfZerwA |
| 05:28.12 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 05:28.13 | Cairenn | saw |
| 05:29.15 | Lunessa | So it looks like the phased starter areas are up, but once you stop outside of those... World Server is down. |
| 05:29.43 | Fisker | bam |
| 05:31.29 | cogwheel | oooh ... do gnomes start in gnomer now? |
| 05:31.35 | kd3 | no |
| 05:31.42 | kd3 | tried ~10 minutes ago. we still spawn with the dwarvs |
| 05:31.44 | cogwheel | aww... |
| 05:32.46 | WobWork | isn't it technically only -after- you regain gnomer that you can start there? |
| 05:32.57 | Lunessa | cogwheel I couldn't login in with a fresh gnome. |
| 05:33.17 | kd3 | I did it on the korean server >.> |
| 05:33.57 | Lunessa | OK, I'm going to go to bed. 'cause if I don't go now, I'll be up all night. |
| 05:34.08 | Kraps | "Worst patch day ever, I need a giant hug." bibi, beta has barely started :/ |
| 05:34.19 | Lunessa | Night all. |
| 05:34.20 | cogwheel | nn Lunessa |
| 05:34.26 | Fisker | so guild ui finally made it in btw? |
| 05:34.30 | *** part/#wowuidev Lunessa (~Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 05:34.36 | Bibi | Kraps : fuck you. |
| 05:34.44 | Kraps | noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 05:36.46 | Kraps | i want to give you a hug but its early for you |
| 05:36.55 | WobWork | we're mostly on ally on cata, right? |
| 05:37.04 | cogwheel | so far yeah |
| 05:37.47 | ccox | sigh, citibanc toon is blindly undercutting competition - ruining the ally econonmy on this server |
| 05:38.16 | cogwheel | so buy... |
| 05:38.28 | ccox | he'll just undercut and drive the prices down again |
| 05:38.30 | mikma | adys: "<Adys> i count 4 ways that still work to get /run working," do it, do it. |
| 05:38.39 | WobWork | Lost Isles? |
| 05:38.44 | cogwheel | yar |
| 05:39.12 | cogwheel | world pvp sucks for testing |
| 05:39.26 | ccox | I tried buying and reselling, the idiot undercuts each time - never wants to lose a sale, despite losing money |
| 05:39.55 | Jerub | ccox: ... he's not ruining it. |
| 05:40.00 | Jerub | ccox: you're no exploiting him correctly. |
| 05:40.12 | cogwheel | you have to either hold onto it or buy more. |
| 05:40.19 | cogwheel | assuming your goal is to maximize your return |
| 05:40.19 | Jerub | ccox: list at a low rate, watch him undercut, buy all of his stock, relist at a higher price. |
| 05:40.26 | Corrodias | is it a ruined economy? really? this is what capitalism is all about |
| 05:40.28 | ccox | sorry, don't have the spare gold on this server to outlast him |
| 05:40.40 | ccox | Jerub - tried that, he has more stock, and undercut |
| 05:40.46 | Corrodias | if he's willing to let it go for a 100% loss, he wins the game! |
| 05:41.05 | ccox | Corrodias: by that logic, everything should list for 1c |
| 05:41.19 | Corrodias | yes, then we have won the game |
| 05:41.23 | Corrodias | we can go back outside |
| 05:41.37 | ccox | low level toons have trouble making money, because cloth, stone, herbs, etc. are all listing for insanely low prices |
| 05:41.42 | Jerub | ccox: list token amounts at really low prices, and let him suffer poor profits on his ogods. |
| 05:41.52 | ccox | jerub - tempting |
| 05:41.59 | Jerub | ... it's the logical thing to do. |
| 05:42.05 | ccox | hmm, if I list just above vendor price.... |
| 05:42.29 | Jerub | ccox: anyway, it's just turning into a buyers market. low level toons are having a joyous time getting crafting mats from the AH |
| 05:42.33 | cogwheel | ccox: go play eve's market for a while... wow's ah will be your bitch after that... |
| 05:42.49 | ccox | normally wow's AH is my gold machine |
| 05:42.50 | Jerub | economies go both ways. |
| 05:42.55 | ccox | (well, that and disenchanting) |
| 05:42.59 | Shirik | haha |
| 05:43.01 | Shirik | they go both ways |
| 05:43.15 | Shirik | hi ccox |
| 05:43.24 | ccox | Hey Shirik |
| 05:43.27 | Jerub | i remember when doom was predicted by folks here for when the web AH interface was released (way back when it was announced) |
| 05:43.31 | cogwheel | Shirik: that joke was gay |
| 05:43.34 | Shirik | :( |
| 05:43.39 | ccox | cogwheel: bad |
| 05:43.39 | cogwheel | get it? |
| 05:43.48 | Jerub | because simultaneously everything would be too expensive,too cheap, people would make too much money and people would be unable to make any money at all. |
| 05:46.23 | *** join/#wowuidev robokitty (~robotusch@50A2E569.flatrate.dk) |
| 05:46.46 | Kraps | schrodingers economy |
| 05:47.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Vilkku (~Vilkku@86-60-145-155-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
| 05:48.30 | SeanK | bummer. all this time downloading the patch and when it finally launches, "The login server is currently busy, try again later" I hope in vain that since I hadn't transfered characters to the ptr before that Imight get luck and get in. |
| 05:49.25 | ccox | I wonder if I could create a heisen-economy... |
| 05:53.52 | WobWork | Isn't that the US economy? |
| 05:54.31 | SeanK | so anyone hear of a work around for the login problem on the beta? Hey speaking of economy I was thinking about writing an exchange/brokering addon. You add the items you have and the prices you are willing to sell for and other addon users can buy. Add a little stock ticker. How big is the back channel addons get to use? |
| 05:56.05 | WobWork | haha, one of my friends who does QA: "When a developer says they don't like being on QA because everything they test is so broken... they are so close to a revelation..." |
| 05:57.08 | Mirrormn | I don't get it |
| 05:57.26 | WobWork | what version is the beta? |
| 05:57.32 | WobWork | (currently) |
| 05:57.47 | cogwheel | 12479 |
| 05:58.57 | cogwheel | SeanK: something like that would need critical mass to be effective. I'm not sure anything without server support could be more than a niche addon. |
| 05:59.28 | cogwheel | Auctioneer is necessarily one-sided. I'd really love to see buy orders |
| 05:59.59 | cogwheel | it would make the economy much more vibrant |
| 06:01.05 | Fisker | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/cataclysm/cataclysm_worldmaps/cataclysm/12479/Kalimdor.jpg <-lolpenis |
| 06:01.45 | Mirrormn | you mean in 1k needles? |
| 06:04.44 | cog|sleep | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia |
| 06:05.39 | Fisker | yeah Mirrormn |
| 06:05.50 | Mirrormn | it's a very freckly penis |
| 06:07.47 | cog|sleep | Cairenn: ^ |
| 06:08.39 | Mirrormn | fucking HTTP direct download stopped serving me again -.- |
| 06:10.03 | Cairenn | cog|sleep: ? |
| 06:10.39 | cog|sleep | "it's a very freckly penis" ... no? ... maybe should |sleep |
| 06:10.45 | cog|sleep | sleeps |
| 06:11.03 | Cairenn | it's a very odd comment |
| 06:11.14 | cog|sleep | i lold |
| 06:11.43 | robokitty | eh |
| 06:11.53 | robokitty | Kalimdor is still reminding me of a chicken, for some reason :/ |
| 06:12.16 | lowlee | azshara looks more like a beak than before imo |
| 06:12.31 | robokitty | with Azshara being the beak and Durotar the flappy red thing |
| 06:15.38 | Fisker | msn robokitty |
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| 06:33.37 | SeanK | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.32 | lowlee | SeanK: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=2000&forumId=7555625 is general beta forum |
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| 06:37.28 | kd3 | but don't report in beta general. either use beta bug reports or the in-game tool |
| 06:37.43 | kd3 | alt-click on whatever's acting up (including the minimap title if it's something at a particular spot) |
| 06:40.26 | Fisker | awww Bibi |
| 06:40.28 | Fisker | WoR is maaaaaaaad |
| 06:40.41 | Bibi | Fisker: ? |
| 06:40.54 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968569965&sid=2000&pageNo=1 |
| 06:41.02 | Fisker | "He just knows how to get patches early and doesn't know anyone on the inside." |
| 06:41.04 | Fisker | :'( |
| 06:42.39 | Mirrormn | links work on the beta forums? |
| 06:42.43 | kd3 | yes |
| 06:42.51 | Mirrormn | curious |
| 06:42.57 | Dashkal | is there a list anywhere of patch increments? I'm curious how many more I have to go. |
| 06:43.24 | kd3 | 11927-12025-12065-12122-12164-12232-12266-12319-12479 |
| 06:43.35 | Fisker | when my world server is up kd3 ? |
| 06:43.50 | kd3 | probably after I go to sleep, which is momentarily |
| 06:44.05 | Mirrormn | I hope 12164-12232 is the biggest |
| 06:44.17 | kd3 | yar |
| 06:44.27 | Mirrormn | that's somewhat reassuring I guess |
| 06:44.28 | Dashkal | kd3: danke |
| 06:44.32 | Dashkal | so two more to go |
| 06:44.34 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/138570 |
| 06:44.41 | kd3 | patch list/sizes for enUS ^ |
| 06:45.02 | Fisker | orgrimmar is up atleast |
| 06:45.07 | Fisker | bai |
| 06:45.07 | Dashkal | sighs |
| 06:45.14 | Dashkal | 800 megs to go |
| 06:45.56 | Mirrormn | I've got about 1.4gb left still =/ |
| 06:46.17 | Dashkal | I'm just finishing up with 12266 |
| 06:46.26 | Mirrormn | at least I can probably get to the 500mb one before I go to bed |
| 06:47.33 | Jerub | i'm running wotlk and not in the beta |
| 06:47.40 | Jerub | yay! no download, world servers up, huzzah |
| 06:49.24 | Dashkal | I already did my dailies |
| 06:50.25 | Jerub | heh, dailies. |
| 06:50.40 | Jerub | oh, you mean daily frost badges? |
| 06:50.46 | Dashkal | I have zero interest in raiding or pvp. |
| 06:50.53 | Dashkal | No, I meant JC/Cooking/Fishing |
| 06:51.05 | Dashkal | I was in waiting-for-cata mode |
| 06:51.09 | Dashkal | Playing more TF2 than WoW |
| 06:51.44 | Jerub | Dashkal: i have a hard enough time getting daily heroics and weekly raid done. |
| 06:51.52 | Jerub | although, it's odd, but this is netting me positive cash. |
| 06:52.08 | Jerub | i never spend more in repairs than i gain from rewards |
| 06:52.17 | Dashkal | Oh? I have no issue with daily heroics. When I was inclined (grinding for heirlooms) I was backing away 6-7 heroics an evening. |
| 06:52.20 | Dashkal | as dps |
| 06:52.56 | Dashkal | Got a ton of saronite while I was doing it too. Since I waited out my queues in IC mining loops. |
| 06:53.16 | Jerub | yeah, i've been doing that waiting for norm hor |
| 06:53.20 | Jerub | also, fuck hor |
| 06:53.28 | Jerub | my warrio rneeds the shield still |
| 06:53.31 | Jerub | and it still hasn't dropped |
| 06:53.42 | Dashkal | Hor I cringe when it comes up. As suddenly most of my group drops. |
| 06:53.47 | Jerub | he tanked icc10 in a norm instance shield. |
| 06:53.53 | Jerub | norm hor isn't so bad |
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| 06:54.33 | Mirrormn | I tanked H HoR on my paladin today |
| 06:54.36 | Jerub | my bear can carry most random groups through hor now, but i got it on my warrior :/ |
| 06:54.40 | Mirrormn | and afterwards, one of my groupmates whispered me "u tank gud" |
| 06:54.49 | Jerub | Mirrormn: :D |
| 06:54.56 | Mirrormn | yeah, I have no problems tanking it on my dk |
| 06:54.59 | Jerub | i always say thankyou to good players in HOR |
| 06:55.03 | Mirrormn | but my paladin is a different story |
| 06:55.10 | Jerub | like that DK that DGs |
| 06:55.19 | Jerub | or that huntard who frost traps properly |
| 06:55.32 | Mirrormn | last time I tried to tank it on my paladin, we wiped kind of hard |
| 06:56.00 | Mirrormn | in retrospect, though, that may have been cause the healer was bad |
| 06:56.26 | Jerub | my wife and i got hhor on random, she's got a barely geared paladin tank. |
| 06:56.42 | Jerub | i was treating ardent defender like a healing cooldown |
| 06:57.21 | Mirrormn | whenever I heal it on my priest, I'm always like "this isn't so bad, why do other healers always almost let my tanks die" |
| 06:57.38 | Jerub | disc or holy? |
| 06:57.49 | Mirrormn | I've done both |
| 06:58.06 | Mirrormn | I can't recall ever getting a particularly poorly geared tank though |
| 06:58.45 | Jerub | my warrior was in there on something like ilvl220 avg |
| 06:58.52 | Jerub | which i think is pretty poorly geared |
| 06:59.14 | Jerub | someone let him tank icc though. hellscreams warsong is awesome |
| 06:59.39 | Jerub | would you let this man tank icecrown ? http://elitistarmory.com/US/Dath%27Remar/Pham |
| 07:00.21 | Mirrormn | ick no |
| 07:00.35 | Jerub | we wiped on heroic gunship |
| 07:00.43 | Jerub | then server reset was only 15 minutes awy |
| 07:01.12 | ZorbaTHut | ilvl220 is plenty for hor |
| 07:01.16 | ZorbaTHut | I mean you only get 226 out of it |
| 07:01.24 | Jerub | 232 |
| 07:01.29 | Jerub | it's 219 or 232 |
| 07:01.34 | ZorbaTHut | ah, 232? okay, it's still plenty |
| 07:01.40 | Jerub | 226 is uld25 |
| 07:01.46 | Jerub | isn't it? |
| 07:01.50 | Mirrormn | you obviously have to be overgeared for HoR to tank it properly |
| 07:01.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 07:01.58 | Jerub | Mirrormn: ^^ this. |
| 07:02.06 | Mirrormn | well that's true for everything really |
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| 07:03.25 | Jerub | not really. |
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| 07:03.38 | Jerub | hfos for instance is easy to tank no matter what your gear is |
| 07:03.52 | Jerub | but hpos will give you grief if you're not a good tank on the hill. |
| 07:04.05 | Jerub | (but that's where you either need to bring gear or good raid awareness) |
| 07:04.36 | robokitty | .. or just cheese it |
| 07:06.49 | Jerub | i dont' LOS the event in HOR, I don't mount up after Ick&Crick, I don't bug Haddronox. |
| 07:07.13 | Jerub | there are things i do do, but those things i do not. |
| 07:17.01 | Maldivia | morning |
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| 07:18.01 | Fisker- | bitches |
| 07:19.00 | Fisker | double bitches |
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| 07:21.40 | Dashkal | one...more...patch! |
| 07:24.13 | Maldivia | hmm... |
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| 07:28.55 | Fisker | yawn robokitty |
| 07:29.53 | Maldivia | ok, druid tree are somewhat broken :) |
| 07:30.25 | robokitty | :? |
| 07:30.29 | Fisker | :3 |
| 07:30.34 | robokitty | Still teasing the kitty with meatballs, eh? |
| 07:30.54 | Fisker | naw |
| 07:31.14 | Fisker | not my fault it wants to eat my food |
| 07:31.25 | robokitty | totally is your fault |
| 07:31.29 | robokitty | you were teasing it! |
| 07:35.54 | Dashkal | sighs |
| 07:35.55 | Dashkal | login server |
| 07:37.10 | Fisker | anyone got a link to the wow forums ad userscript? |
| 07:38.07 | Fisker | StarCraft II Unit "Sound-a-like" Contest: |
| 07:38.07 | Fisker | Sound out with your favorite unit voice from SCI and SCII. Is your Battlecruiser operational? |
| 07:38.15 | Fisker | No, i must construct additional pylons |
| 07:39.22 | Fisker | I'm sure that if they make a statistic over all the entries, 90% of them will be "You must construct additional pylons" |
| 07:39.23 | Fisker | :o |
| 07:40.24 | Maldivia | kd3: they disabled run/script/dump? |
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| 07:41.51 | eidolarr | since when does wow's chat frame support C-f, C-b, C-w? |
| 07:42.52 | Fisker | >:O? |
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| 07:43.58 | eidolarr | now they just need C-a and C-e and the world will be beautiful |
| 07:44.49 | Fisker | >:O? |
| 07:45.08 | Maldivia | for? |
| 07:45.22 | eidolarr | emacs keybinds, like leftarrow rightarrow |
| 07:45.28 | eidolarr | C-w is the coolest, deletes the whole previous word |
| 07:45.59 | Maldivia | C-w is usually close window :P |
| 07:46.32 | eidolarr | not in emacs, but I don't think it's backward-kill-word by default either, it's just what everyone uses |
| 07:47.17 | eidolarr | what a cute surprise |
| 07:47.42 | Dashkal | Ok, I'm getting "Login server is busy". Is this something I should keep hammering on or is this something that needs to be fixed on their end? |
| 07:47.58 | Yssaril | their end |
| 07:48.07 | Dashkal | *^&%^&**^&*^&%*^&$%##$%*^&%*^& |
| 07:48.09 | Dashkal | ok |
| 07:48.11 | Dashkal | danke |
| 07:48.17 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: i believe thats the result of the key issue that a bunch of people are seeing |
| 07:48.28 | Dashkal | That's what I was afraid of |
| 07:48.37 | Dashkal | Ok, no more wasting my time on this then. |
| 07:48.40 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed. |
| 07:49.03 | Dashkal | I was under the impression that that was the point of the auth maint |
| 07:49.15 | NightHawkTheSane | i was hoping it was.. |
| 07:50.19 | mikma | hammertime |
| 07:50.41 | Maldivia | wow, chat is borked :P |
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| 07:52.08 | Fisker | slaps Codayus around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:52.29 | Fisker | so done installing yet mikma? |
| 07:52.49 | mikma | no idea |
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| 07:52.58 | mikma | i dont play when i am at work |
| 07:53.13 | Maldivia | WEEE... moveable party frames!! |
| 07:53.20 | Fisker | wat |
| 07:54.25 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968569965&postId=259661740542&sid=2000#32 |
| 07:54.30 | Fisker | gentlemen |
| 07:55.13 | NightHawkTheSane | BEHOLD! |
| 07:55.16 | mikma | start your engines |
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| 07:58.59 | Dashkal | nifty, I have the forum cannot-select-character bug too. I wonder if I need to log in once (heh) before it notices my char copy |
| 07:59.29 | eidolarr | it looks like at some point they changed UI_ERROR_MESSAGE to not fire for some errors if the error has fired within the last n seconds, rather than actually throttling UIErrorsFrame... stupid |
| 08:00.18 | mikma | <fisker>no u</fisker> |
| 08:00.41 | Fisker | the quest named 'Throw it on the Ground'. When you toss the item to break it, your companion yells "I'm not part of your system!" |
| 08:00.43 | Fisker | lold |
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| 08:03.18 | Torhal | eidolarr: C-a has always worked for me |
| 08:03.27 | Torhal | Though it has the side-effect of highlighting |
| 08:03.31 | Niv | bah, keys still aren't fixed? boo :) |
| 08:03.45 | eidolarr | Torhal: oh, true |
| 08:04.19 | Torhal | I just wish Wine would allow highlighting apply to the X clipboard |
| 08:05.05 | eidolarr | I get the feeling clipboards are more difficult than they appear |
| 08:05.52 | Fisker | Maldivia |
| 08:05.57 | Fisker | you will show me the new party frames |
| 08:06.01 | Fisker | or i will hut you |
| 08:06.06 | Fisker | hurt* |
| 08:06.20 | Torhal | I'm really really really fucking happy they decided to add Hardware Cursor to OpenGL. |
| 08:06.29 | Fisker | why so happy? |
| 08:06.32 | Fisker | OpenGL sucks :3 |
| 08:06.46 | Torhal | You try playing WoW with a software cursor when a bunch of shit is happening. |
| 08:06.53 | Torhal | Not fun. |
| 08:07.22 | Fisker | never had any issues |
| 08:07.23 | Fisker | yarr |
| 08:07.49 | eidolarr | for git on curse - if you tag anything not release it's a beta, and if you don't tag at all it's alpha, right? |
| 08:07.59 | Torhal | forces Fisker to watch the Twilight movies back-to-back. |
| 08:08.00 | Maldivia | Fisker: it's a bit grid inspired, |
| 08:08.08 | Torhal | eidolarr: Yes |
| 08:08.09 | Fisker | i read |
| 08:08.14 | Fisker | but i want screeeeeeeeenshots |
| 08:08.17 | Torhal | eidolarr: Though you can tag an alpha |
| 08:08.20 | Maldivia | Fisker: world server down |
| 08:08.21 | Fisker | damn Torhal |
| 08:08.25 | eidolarr | Torhal: how? |
| 08:09.47 | Torhal | v2.0.45-alpha |
| 08:10.03 | Torhal | At least, I believe that works. |
| 08:10.08 | Torhal | I know -beta works |
| 08:10.17 | eidolarr | what if you tag like, 5.9? or something |
| 08:10.19 | Torhal | So does beta3 |
| 08:10.26 | Torhal | That would be release |
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| 08:10.38 | eidolarr | is there a big page on this? I am finding only passing reference in the knowledge base |
| 08:11.16 | Torhal | eidolarr: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/repository-faq/ <-- Look for 'How does the packager know whether a tag is a release or a beta? |
| 08:12.09 | eidolarr | yeah that's what I was looking at, doesn't say anything about alphas and seems to suggest beta is the default |
| 08:12.58 | eidolarr | I see, the $ is a case, nevermind |
| 08:13.04 | Torhal | In layman's terms, it is a release if either: blah-blah-It optionally starts with "v" and has only numbers, dots, dashes, or underscores. |
| 08:13.06 | eidolarr | I get it now, except for alphas - thanks |
| 08:13.06 | Yssaril | eidolarr: anytime you commit you have an alpha |
| 08:13.20 | eidolarr | Yssaril: so you can't tag an alpha? |
| 08:13.25 | Yssaril | nope |
| 08:13.46 | Torhal | I don't see why you'd want to actually |
| 08:13.56 | Yssaril | why would you want to if its more important than a commit then its either a beta or a release |
| 08:14.17 | Maldivia | Fisker: as soon as I can log back in :P |
| 08:14.23 | Torhal | Yssaril: Your drycoding is starting to rival Ackis's |
| 08:14.26 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:15.11 | Yssaril | Torhal: you refering to my acegui sharedmedia widget work? |
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| 08:19.26 | Fisker | btw Maldivia |
| 08:19.42 | Fisker | did Blizzard protect the username cvar? |
| 08:23.49 | Torhal | Yssaril: Yah :) |
| 08:23.53 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:24.21 | Torhal | Why so srs Fisker? |
| 08:26.01 | Yssaril | Torhal: i put a test verion on the forums for littel over a week (didn;t error out for me) nobody said anything so i decided to commit (and since its a libish addon i have to at least try to fix bugs that random people find as fast as possible :P ) |
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| 08:27.40 | Torhal | Yah, just giving you shit because you vanished for months and then start ninja-updating |
| 08:27.54 | Yssaril | :P |
| 08:28.42 | Torhal | Ok...bedtime. For four hours, at least. |
| 08:28.57 | Yssaril | comp blew up on me took some time to get money for a new one then finals hit and after being detoxed from wow i am just now getting back into the groove |
| 08:29.10 | Torhal | Aaah |
| 08:30.34 | nev-mobile | Something like cata usually gets me back in pretty fast |
| 08:34.55 | mikma | nev-lolbile |
| 08:35.04 | mikma | mobile irc's suck balls |
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| 08:44.27 | Maldivia | Fisker: well, at the moment, all scripts are disabled, so |
| 08:45.45 | Fisker | lazy |
| 08:46.06 | Jamash | it's a good time to be an addon author |
| 08:52.13 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/louhinta/14072010020.mp4 - field going off, me wanking the crank, demolition expert filmed |
| 08:52.54 | Maldivia | Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/6j2WR.png -- forgot to link it :) |
| 08:53.15 | Maldivia | Fisker: out of range, in range (and selected), and full party (but offline) |
| 08:55.33 | Fisker | already saw it |
| 08:55.38 | Fisker | :3 |
| 08:55.45 | Fisker | but nice |
| 08:57.21 | mikma | maldivia: those are default unitframes now?? |
| 08:57.34 | Maldivia | mikma: it's the current development party frames, yeah |
| 08:57.42 | mikma | oh hot |
| 08:57.51 | Grum | is that from blizzard itself? O.o |
| 08:57.53 | Maldivia | mikma: there's a toggle to switch between old style and there |
| 08:57.55 | Jamash | sweet |
| 08:58.02 | Maldivia | Grum: yeah, beta screenshot |
| 08:58.03 | Grum | damn nice |
| 08:58.09 | mikma | old style go home |
| 08:58.23 | Grum | are the wowi betakeys already working btw? or auth server still screaming 'busy' ? |
| 08:58.30 | Maldivia | just need option to scale and to sort horizontally |
| 08:58.35 | Maldivia | and to add te player to the list as well |
| 08:58.45 | Maldivia | Grum: some keys are working |
| 08:59.05 | Yssaril | Grum: still not working (also world server seams to be crashing foer everyone else so no big deal) |
| 08:59.20 | mikma | expected, tbh |
| 08:59.22 | Grum | ah well they jusy did a major update |
| 08:59.26 | Grum | we'll see in some days then |
| 08:59.42 | mikma | since the servers are in usa or so and we play across the ocean |
| 09:01.31 | Trela | mikma: Do you blow stuff up for a living? :O |
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| 09:09.10 | Maldivia | ok, the new casting sounds are kind of annoying for resto druids |
| 09:09.35 | cbreak_work | leaf rustling? |
| 09:09.53 | Maldivia | ohh, the party frames even have healing indicators... |
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| 09:13.28 | DJJeff | tonight is a happy night for me........... |
| 09:13.30 | DJJeff | http://imgur.com/pE6fY.jpg |
| 09:13.33 | DJJeff | w0000000000000000000000000t |
| 09:13.45 | airtonix | reported for goldpsma |
| 09:13.48 | airtonix | spasm |
| 09:13.53 | DJJeff | goldspam |
| 09:13.55 | DJJeff | hahahahaha |
| 09:13.57 | airtonix | spasm |
| 09:13.57 | DJJeff | you wish |
| 09:14.07 | DJJeff | pms'ing ? |
| 09:14.12 | airtonix | "to have a spastic fit" |
| 09:14.23 | DJJeff | yah man |
| 09:14.32 | airtonix | don't feel sad |
| 09:14.34 | airtonix | :( |
| 09:14.38 | airtonix | i'm ok |
| 09:14.43 | DJJeff | I got invited to a 12/12 grp |
| 09:14.48 | DJJeff | that is really geared |
| 09:14.58 | airtonix | is that your ui ? |
| 09:14.58 | DJJeff | we are gonna 12/12 normal tomorrow night |
| 09:15.04 | DJJeff | yah man |
| 09:15.07 | airtonix | man xperl is lol |
| 09:15.07 | DJJeff | you should know that |
| 09:15.09 | DJJeff | by now |
| 09:15.19 | Maldivia | cbreak: it sounds like white noice |
| 09:15.23 | Grum | DJJeff: erm .. is that group a challenge to get the worst possible playernames in 1 raid? |
| 09:16.07 | Grum | seriously .. Kaapoww, Huntron, Houseatredes, Cancermancer, Blazeyadead o.O |
| 09:16.13 | airtonix | haha |
| 09:16.22 | Grum | oh and obviously .. Canadianjeff ... |
| 09:16.27 | airtonix | decursive? |
| 09:16.30 | airtonix | lulz |
| 09:16.46 | DJJeff | I have 90+ addons |
| 09:16.53 | DJJeff | how have you NOT seen my ui |
| 09:16.56 | airtonix | its not the number |
| 09:17.01 | DJJeff | I post it in here every week |
| 09:17.08 | Grum | no-one cares ;D |
| 09:17.13 | airtonix | it looks like windows xp |
| 09:17.14 | DJJeff | im sure they dont |
| 09:17.45 | Maldivia | what... |
| 09:17.51 | airtonix | DJJeff, dont take it personally |
| 09:17.55 | airtonix | but your ui is bad |
| 09:17.57 | DJJeff | they all have a 2900+ wowheroes :) |
| 09:17.58 | Maldivia | male worgen joke - "If you play nice, I'll share my bone with you" |
| 09:18.01 | airtonix | because its not mine |
| 09:18.09 | DJJeff | post your ui? |
| 09:18.12 | DJJeff | please |
| 09:18.14 | airtonix | why |
| 09:18.21 | DJJeff | cause your making fun of mine |
| 09:18.25 | airtonix | mine will always be better regardless of what it looks like |
| 09:18.26 | Mirrormn | you got back that trash talk up baby |
| 09:18.30 | airtonix | because its mine |
| 09:18.32 | Maldivia | "I hope you like it... wruf" |
| 09:18.35 | Mirrormn | hmm |
| 09:18.37 | Mirrormn | I agree with airtonix actually |
| 09:18.49 | airtonix | mine could look exactly like yours |
| 09:18.53 | airtonix | and it would be better |
| 09:18.56 | airtonix | because its mine |
| 09:18.57 | DJJeff | back your words up..... with a screenshot |
| 09:18.58 | Maldivia | "You're like the moon baby - you make me howl all night" |
| 09:19.17 | Maldivia | worgen flirts are dirty! |
| 09:19.24 | DJJeff | I spent 10+ hours on my UI |
| 09:19.29 | DJJeff | I have pride in it |
| 09:19.39 | airtonix | DJJeff, for a start i dont fill my screen up with info i dont need to see all the time |
| 09:19.49 | DJJeff | good for you |
| 09:19.52 | airtonix | and i have a personal hatred of xperl |
| 09:19.53 | Maldivia | and the worgen emote voice over depends on if they are in human or worgen form! |
| 09:20.06 | airtonix | and decursive |
| 09:20.09 | DJJeff | thats ur problem..... not mine |
| 09:20.18 | airtonix | and recount |
| 09:20.20 | tem | Where is the Horde Deepholme breadcrumbs quest? |
| 09:20.25 | DJJeff | they both work....... they both get updated :) |
| 09:20.28 | airtonix | i didnt say you had a problem |
| 09:20.37 | Maldivia | tem: try the earthshrine in org |
| 09:20.39 | airtonix | i didnt say they didnt work |
| 09:20.40 | Maldivia | tem: not sure though |
| 09:20.49 | DJJeff | you just dont like them |
| 09:20.50 | tem | "the earthshrine?" |
| 09:20.54 | airtonix | DJJeff, yes |
| 09:21.00 | DJJeff | do you hate the authors? |
| 09:21.04 | airtonix | DJJeff, no |
| 09:21.05 | Maldivia | tem: where the portals for the new zones are |
| 09:21.07 | tem | is that like the awesome thing I saw in stormwind at that new lake? |
| 09:21.18 | Maldivia | yep |
| 09:21.25 | DJJeff | then can you ask the authors to make them nicer for you? |
| 09:21.29 | tem | I haven't found that in org yet >.> |
| 09:21.36 | DJJeff | instead of making fun of them |
| 09:21.37 | Maldivia | I was told there was one in Org as well, but I play Alliance, so |
| 09:21.40 | airtonix | DJJeff, what i want is not within their design goals |
| 09:21.53 | airtonix | DJJeff, and things like ouf allow me to do what i want |
| 09:21.57 | airtonix | and clique |
| 09:22.08 | DJJeff | they do what they are ment todo |
| 09:22.16 | DJJeff | you are free to go into the source |
| 09:22.18 | airtonix | yes my choice of addons do that |
| 09:22.22 | DJJeff | and make changes yourself |
| 09:22.46 | DJJeff | I make changes to the LUA of more then 1/2 my addons |
| 09:22.47 | airtonix | DJJeff, if i wanted to change xperl to my liking it would take me longer than it would to code what i need for ouf |
| 09:23.03 | airtonix | DJJeff, it wouldnt be xperl anymore |
| 09:23.27 | DJJeff | xperl is a bit.......... bulky |
| 09:23.29 | DJJeff | yes |
| 09:23.30 | DJJeff | I agree |
| 09:23.38 | DJJeff | but the 3dness I like |
| 09:23.45 | airtonix | its not flexible enough for me either |
| 09:24.09 | DJJeff | the whole RAID ADMIN thingy that can save your roster |
| 09:24.15 | DJJeff | could use some work |
| 09:24.19 | airtonix | DJJeff, where as pitbull might be but then that is just as bulky as xperl |
| 09:24.37 | Mirrormn | mm I love xperl |
| 09:24.48 | DJJeff | you can actually turn off more 1/2 the crap in xperl |
| 09:24.51 | airtonix | Mirrormn, i love you too |
| 09:25.01 | airtonix | DJJeff, but you're still left with crap |
| 09:25.01 | Mirrormn | I hate xperl's raid frames though |
| 09:25.08 | DJJeff | true |
| 09:25.14 | Mirrormn | grid is for me |
| 09:25.21 | DJJeff | I tried grid |
| 09:25.22 | airtonix | DJJeff, i liked how grid gave me raid frames... and indicators |
| 09:25.24 | DJJeff | too plain |
| 09:25.41 | DJJeff | maybe grid has improoved a bit |
| 09:25.46 | DJJeff | I should look and see |
| 09:25.50 | Mirrormn | if you're not using grid, you're not really raiding |
| 09:26.02 | airtonix | DJJeff, btw... you can make grid look as garish as you like |
| 09:26.15 | DJJeff | screenshot you using grid |
| 09:26.18 | Mirrormn | also, grid + clique can obsolete your descurive |
| 09:26.25 | Mirrormn | *decursive |
| 09:26.35 | airtonix | but i dont like it because i found that using ouf_grid gave me the same thing at at more than half the resourec usage |
| 09:26.41 | DJJeff | decursive is kinda.... broken 1/2 the time |
| 09:26.57 | Mirrormn | you mean less than half the resource usage? |
| 09:27.07 | DJJeff | and I keep decursive in ALPHA mode in curse client |
| 09:27.09 | airtonix | DJJeff, see the reason you aggree there are some of the prime reasons i just dont even bother using them in the first place |
| 09:27.15 | Slaren | unless you are using a buggy status addon for grid it shouldn't be that resource intensive |
| 09:27.43 | airtonix | Slaren, i think i was using default grid, but then im not using a eight core cpu with eight gigs of ram |
| 09:27.47 | Mirrormn | if that's true than I am definitely interested, because as far as I can tell, grid accounts for a large portion of my fps slowdown in 25m raids |
| 09:28.01 | airtonix | Mirrormn, i suggest looking at ouf_freebgrid |
| 09:28.02 | DJJeff | GRID? or GRID2? |
| 09:28.12 | Mirrormn | grid and recount |
| 09:28.19 | DJJeff | recount on 40 man |
| 09:28.24 | Slaren | airtonix i am using a 2 year old q6600 and have no problems with it |
| 09:28.29 | DJJeff | is a huuuuuuuuge resource hog |
| 09:28.33 | Mirrormn | when I disable them I get much better fps in raids |
| 09:28.39 | Slaren | it will definetely use more resources than other addons, but not to the point of being a problem |
| 09:28.41 | Slaren | for me, anyway |
| 09:28.41 | Mirrormn | but, then I reenable them because I need them |
| 09:28.46 | airtonix | DJJeff, i found it refreshing to just not run recount. |
| 09:28.54 | tem | found it, Maldivia |
| 09:29.00 | tem | it's kind of hiding |
| 09:29.04 | DJJeff | cause you know that your dps is l33t and uber |
| 09:29.07 | DJJeff | and you dont care |
| 09:29.23 | DJJeff | but what of your...... PUG |
| 09:29.26 | Mirrormn | I actually wrote a little addon so my brother could whisper me and I would auto-report recount to him |
| 09:29.39 | Mirrormn | cause his computer sucks too much to run it |
| 09:29.40 | airtonix | DJJeff, i never pugged |
| 09:29.46 | tem | you know that feature is built into recount, Mirrormn |
| 09:29.57 | Mirrormn | well obviously I don't |
| 09:30.01 | Mirrormn | or I would have used that |
| 09:30.13 | tem | I don't recall how to set it up |
| 09:30.36 | DJJeff | http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/7000/18062/Grid-25-by-Group.jpg |
| 09:30.41 | tem | but I'm pretty sure you can setup a triggerword that will report the last fight or whatever |
| 09:30.41 | Archarodim | DJJeff: sorry to intervene in your discussion but what do you mean by "decursive is kinda.... broken 1/2 the time"? |
| 09:30.44 | DJJeff | ^^^^^^ seems kinda tiny to me |
| 09:30.48 | Maldivia | tem: well, that place will be the new portal-hub, so better get used to it :P |
| 09:30.55 | Mirrormn | that's on suck mode, jeff |
| 09:31.13 | airtonix | DJJeff, i also think the UI implimentation of decursive is counter productive |
| 09:31.30 | tem | it's off by itself |
| 09:31.33 | tem | sort of above org |
| 09:31.36 | DJJeff | now think of......... healbot |
| 09:31.42 | DJJeff | if I could decurse |
| 09:31.46 | DJJeff | using XPERL |
| 09:31.50 | Maldivia | ahh ok, well, same applies to the one in Stormwind |
| 09:31.50 | airtonix | DJJeff, healbot sucks |
| 09:31.50 | DJJeff | I would be golden |
| 09:32.02 | DJJeff | healbot does suck |
| 09:32.09 | DJJeff | cause you click and heal people |
| 09:32.13 | airtonix | DJJeff, just use clique and xperl and get rid of decursive |
| 09:32.17 | DJJeff | decurse is the same |
| 09:32.39 | airtonix | DJJeff, the upshot here is that your not bouncing between two sets of raid frames |
| 09:32.42 | DJJeff | I wanna click on xperl and decurse people |
| 09:32.50 | airtonix | DJJeff, then get clique |
| 09:32.56 | Mirrormn | yeah, clique does that |
| 09:33.00 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmm |
| 09:33.11 | Mirrormn | I can't find any auto-report option in recount |
| 09:33.15 | DJJeff | does it give a nice UI flash when someone has a curse |
| 09:33.20 | Mirrormn | I do have a fairly old version though |
| 09:33.25 | DJJeff | like decursive does |
| 09:33.32 | airtonix | DJJeff, thats up to your unitframes |
| 09:33.40 | airtonix | DJJeff, i coded that into my ouf raid frames |
| 09:33.51 | DJJeff | I dont wanna code |
| 09:33.53 | airtonix | (took about three lines i think) |
| 09:34.02 | DJJeff | thats why I use decursive |
| 09:34.06 | Mirrormn | well then don't use xperl for your raid frames |
| 09:34.07 | Mirrormn | lol |
| 09:34.16 | DJJeff | xperl works for me |
| 09:34.20 | airtonix | DJJeff, im pretty sure xperl has a default setup of highlighting people certain colours depending on status |
| 09:34.23 | DJJeff | im not getting rid of it |
| 09:34.25 | Mirrormn | use a more wonderful selection |
| 09:34.42 | Mirrormn | yeah, xperl puts a purple border around cursed people, iirc |
| 09:34.46 | DJJeff | xperl will fade people that are out of range |
| 09:34.49 | DJJeff | which I love |
| 09:34.57 | Mirrormn | but grid lets you put the icon right in the middle of the frame |
| 09:35.00 | airtonix | thats a common feature of most unitframes |
| 09:35.04 | Mirrormn | yeah |
| 09:35.12 | airtonix | (the fading out i mean) |
| 09:35.26 | Mirrormn | I think even default blizzard frames has range checking now |
| 09:35.27 | DJJeff | nope |
| 09:35.27 | DJJeff | never did |
| 09:35.48 | DJJeff | xperl in my 5mans it can do the fade thing |
| 09:36.00 | DJJeff | for when im doing my 5 man heroic daily |
| 09:36.14 | airtonix | DJJeff, my ouf raid frames was also my 5man setup. |
| 09:36.28 | DJJeff | good for your "ouf" |
| 09:36.32 | airtonix | the way i see it : 5mans are just raids with 5 people |
| 09:36.35 | DJJeff | wanna make love to it too ? |
| 09:36.45 | airtonix | :) |
| 09:36.48 | airtonix | daily |
| 09:36.50 | airtonix | but |
| 09:36.53 | airtonix | you can;t join in |
| 09:36.58 | DJJeff | im still ummmmmm |
| 09:37.04 | DJJeff | waiting for that screenshot ;) |
| 09:37.19 | airtonix | :) |
| 09:37.24 | DJJeff | ur just shocked that I spent so many hours on my ui |
| 09:37.28 | airtonix | lol? |
| 09:37.31 | airtonix | haha |
| 09:37.35 | DJJeff | that ur trying to get me to change it |
| 09:37.39 | DJJeff | and spend MORE time |
| 09:37.48 | airtonix | no the first thing i thought was..."spent about 20 minutes on this " |
| 09:37.57 | airtonix | maybe 5 |
| 09:38.18 | DJJeff | the sunn art thingy |
| 09:38.20 | DJJeff | yes 5 |
| 09:38.27 | DJJeff | bartender took some work |
| 09:38.39 | airtonix | really ? |
| 09:38.45 | airtonix | should take only 5min |
| 09:38.49 | airtonix | if that |
| 09:38.50 | DJJeff | getting it scalled down |
| 09:38.57 | DJJeff | and placed correctly |
| 09:39.00 | DJJeff | yes 15 min |
| 09:39.05 | airtonix | takes me about 2min to setup dominos |
| 09:39.18 | DJJeff | want a cookie? |
| 09:39.25 | airtonix | maybe you were experimenting ? |
| 09:39.34 | DJJeff | or a big achievement sign on your screen |
| 09:39.46 | DJJeff | that was worth 10 achievement points |
| 09:39.49 | airtonix | are you upset ? :( |
| 09:39.54 | DJJeff | saying........ you setup dominos |
| 09:39.56 | airtonix | don't be sad |
| 09:39.58 | DJJeff | hardly |
| 09:40.05 | DJJeff | I am in a great mood :) |
| 09:40.27 | Mirrormn | hrm, it does not look like ouf_freebgrid has the functionality I desire |
| 09:40.29 | airtonix | you know it takes more muscle power to frown than it does to smile ? |
| 09:40.31 | DJJeff | mostly cause I watch lich king on tank spot 7 times |
| 09:40.43 | DJJeff | yes sir |
| 09:40.55 | DJJeff | im ready to 12/12 tomorrow |
| 09:41.09 | airtonix | DJJeff, btw |
| 09:41.30 | airtonix | i stopped playing wow about a year ago |
| 09:41.36 | DJJeff | hahahahaha |
| 09:41.39 | airtonix | :) |
| 09:41.40 | DJJeff | im sure you did |
| 09:41.48 | DJJeff | I knew you were a troll |
| 09:41.58 | airtonix | :( |
| 09:42.05 | DJJeff | from like.... the 1st comment you made |
| 09:42.16 | airtonix | its ok jeff |
| 09:42.25 | DJJeff | is it though? |
| 09:42.29 | airtonix | yes |
| 09:42.34 | airtonix | i kissed it better |
| 09:42.46 | airtonix | monmonmon |
| 09:42.47 | DJJeff | are giant cookies that the chinese call bombs gonna fall on us |
| 09:43.06 | DJJeff | and nuke the whales |
| 09:43.17 | DJJeff | ack cant spell for shizzy |
| 09:43.40 | airtonix | majizzle |
| 09:43.56 | DJJeff | im still pissed off that the new chat box |
| 09:44.08 | DJJeff | on the lower left of my screeny |
| 09:44.14 | DJJeff | cant fit better |
| 09:44.22 | airtonix | you mean |
| 09:44.23 | DJJeff | fuck you blizzard fuck you |
| 09:44.24 | airtonix | it overlaps |
| 09:44.26 | airtonix | by two |
| 09:44.28 | airtonix | pixels ? |
| 09:44.32 | DJJeff | nah |
| 09:44.34 | Mirrormn | wow, my fucking 1.1gb patch stopped downloading at 99% |
| 09:44.40 | DJJeff | I want to move down more |
| 09:44.40 | airtonix | love that |
| 09:44.42 | DJJeff | and it wont |
| 09:44.54 | Grum | DJJeff: seeing LK and doing LK is a whole different story :D |
| 09:45.01 | DJJeff | im sure it is |
| 09:45.04 | airtonix | DJJeff, at this point i think i would just put up with removing that border graphic |
| 09:45.08 | DJJeff | depends on the raid leader |
| 09:45.26 | DJJeff | what graphic? |
| 09:45.27 | Mirrormn | finally, it teh finished! |
| 09:45.32 | airtonix | on the chat frame |
| 09:45.58 | airtonix | but i think you also wnat those chat tabs to be inside your brick wall panel thing |
| 09:46.05 | Mirrormn | I'm thinking of upgrading my 19" 1440x900 monitor to a 25.5" 1900x1200 monitor |
| 09:46.21 | DJJeff | im using a 23" 1920x1080 |
| 09:46.24 | airtonix | Mirrormn, so you can have more addons on the screen at once ? |
| 09:46.29 | Mirrormn | yes! |
| 09:46.37 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:46.53 | Mirrormn | no, actually so I can watch movies more pleasantly |
| 09:46.57 | airtonix | yeah |
| 09:46.57 | DJJeff | Mirrormn: how many addons you run? |
| 09:47.03 | DJJeff | and you have a screenshot |
| 09:47.07 | Mirrormn | as many as necessary |
| 09:47.13 | DJJeff | 4? |
| 09:47.38 | DJJeff | I have seen people with 137 addons |
| 09:47.41 | DJJeff | all running |
| 09:47.52 | airtonix | DJJeff, don't get me wrong i proly used to run alot more addons than you... but i only ever had about 10 of them visible on the screen at any one time |
| 09:48.04 | airtonix | i think last count i did was 180 |
| 09:48.15 | airtonix | maybe 145 |
| 09:48.37 | DJJeff | so many of them conflict..... thats why I keep them all uptodate |
| 09:48.38 | airtonix | alot of them used chat commands |
| 09:48.47 | DJJeff | I am happy WIM ADDON updated :) |
| 09:48.52 | DJJeff | w00000000000000000t paaazzaaaaaa |
| 09:49.03 | airtonix | i found wim a bit annoying |
| 09:49.13 | DJJeff | I can link my achieve now |
| 09:49.41 | DJJeff | 1/2 my fubar wont link cause of the new fucking chat box |
| 09:49.46 | airtonix | DJJeff, does wim let you dock each person chat frame together ? or are they still separate frames ? |
| 09:50.07 | DJJeff | you can have them in these thing called...... tabs :) |
| 09:50.16 | DJJeff | kinda like your firefox tabs |
| 09:50.42 | Mirrormn | http://i.imgur.com/ghAlA.jpg |
| 09:51.05 | DJJeff | very nice with the minimap |
| 09:51.07 | DJJeff | I like that |
| 09:51.12 | airtonix | Mirrormn, i recognise those buttons next to your map |
| 09:51.13 | Fisker | what server is that Mirrormn ? |
| 09:51.18 | DJJeff | SexyMap ? |
| 09:51.21 | Mirrormn | dragonmaw |
| 09:51.31 | Mirrormn | MinimapButtonFrame |
| 09:51.32 | Fisker | EU or US? |
| 09:51.34 | Mirrormn | US |
| 09:51.38 | Fisker | oh |
| 09:51.43 | Mirrormn | DO I LOOK EUROPEAN TO YOU |
| 09:51.50 | airtonix | Mirrormn, yeah its pretty handy mod |
| 09:51.57 | Fisker | hey the paladin in the shot reminded me of a player i used to know on EU |
| 09:52.13 | Mirrormn | there's a paladin in the shot? |
| 09:52.16 | Mirrormn | oh, caress |
| 09:52.26 | DJJeff | oooooooooooooooo DigiCamFu.... I need that |
| 09:52.27 | jnwhiteh | wow, there's a few Clique pushers in this channel =) |
| 09:52.30 | DJJeff | for my screenies |
| 09:52.43 | airtonix | jnwhiteh, lol |
| 09:52.46 | Mirrormn | I actually don't need it whatsoever right now |
| 09:52.47 | Mirrormn | so |
| 09:52.51 | jnwhiteh | I come back to 15 mentinos =) |
| 09:52.57 | Mirrormn | thanks for reminding me to disable it |
| 09:53.02 | DJJeff | 131 FPS |
| 09:53.04 | DJJeff | grats |
| 09:53.15 | airtonix | DJJeff, looking at a wall |
| 09:53.15 | DJJeff | I can get maybe 90ish |
| 09:53.21 | Mirrormn | teehee |
| 09:53.33 | Mirrormn | core i7 860 is nice for fps |
| 09:53.36 | DJJeff | I get a solid 30 fps in dal |
| 09:53.40 | Mirrormn | my video card is older, though |
| 09:54.13 | DJJeff | 25k gold |
| 09:54.15 | DJJeff | mmmmmmmmmmm |
| 09:54.19 | DJJeff | im feeling poor |
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| 09:54.32 | DJJeff | after I bought travlers tundra |
| 09:54.37 | Mirrormn | digicamfu is OUT |
| 09:54.56 | Mirrormn | everyone in my guild has more money than me =/ |
| 09:55.10 | DJJeff | you could probley get guild fu |
| 09:55.12 | DJJeff | to say |
| 09:55.18 | DJJeff | 3/163 |
| 09:55.22 | Mirrormn | there was one guy who had over 2 million gold but he quit |
| 09:55.27 | DJJeff | instead of 6/6/163 |
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| 09:56.04 | Mirrormn | with that much gold he had to spread it over multiple characters -.- |
| 09:56.20 | nev-mobile | Two million? Dont you need like 10 chars to store that kind of money? :p seems unrealistic |
| 09:56.51 | DJJeff | anyways........ good night all |
| 09:56.55 | Mirrormn | *shrug* that's how much he said he had, and I had no reason to doubt him |
| 09:56.56 | nev-mobile | I know a guy that has 2 chars on gold limit, but not 10 |
| 09:57.07 | DJJeff | love your trolling airtonix |
| 09:57.13 | Mirrormn | he was working the auction house like 24/7 since forever |
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| 09:58.18 | Mirrormn | anyway, he sold it all for like $8000 and then got banned |
| 09:59.03 | Mirrormn | so, no one's gonna give me grief about how bad my UI is? |
| 09:59.37 | Morkesh | you can store 2 million gold in a guildbank |
| 09:59.54 | Morkesh | i know several gold capped players who stores it there |
| 10:00.55 | Mirrormn | nor ask me about the secret unleased addons on my fubar? ^_^ |
| 10:01.01 | Mirrormn | *unreleased |
| 10:01.53 | Elkano | without having it seen Mirrormn, it can hardly be worse than mine ^^ |
| 10:02.26 | Mirrormn | I just linked it like a second ago |
| 10:02.31 | Mirrormn | and hey, I use your buff bars |
| 10:02.36 | Mirrormn | ^five |
| 10:03.10 | Elkano | well, must have been just before I came in |
| 10:04.11 | Mirrormn | ah, yeah |
| 10:04.15 | Mirrormn | http://i.imgur.com/ghAlA.jpg if you care |
| 10:05.03 | Morkesh | is that x-perl? |
| 10:05.08 | Mirrormn | indeed |
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| 10:05.49 | Morkesh | arh :) |
| 10:05.55 | Mirrormn | why? |
| 10:05.55 | Morkesh | using SUF myself :)' |
| 10:06.02 | Elkano | also, why still using FuBar and not switching to something LDB based? ;) |
| 10:06.05 | Morkesh | just curious :) |
| 10:06.17 | airtonix | Mirrormn, my ui looked a bit like yours |
| 10:06.58 | airtonix | Mirrormn, i experimented with using textures but they just got in the way, (i relied alot on colours changing to grab my attention from corner of my vision) |
| 10:06.59 | Mirrormn | Elkano: cause Broker2Fubar takes care of compatibility and I didn't feel like finding a bunch of LDB addons to replace the exact functionality of the fubar ones I'm used to |
| 10:07.15 | Mirrormn | using textures for what? |
| 10:07.24 | airtonix | the bottom section |
| 10:07.28 | airtonix | i just had a black panel |
| 10:07.35 | Elkano | ok, I went the other way around using FuBar2Broker ^^ |
| 10:07.39 | airtonix | http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/180039/2/screenshots/wow?h=793434 |
| 10:08.11 | airtonix | the strengths of my ui were probably best expressed with a video |
| 10:08.43 | Mirrormn | I could probably be convinced to switch to fubar2broker if you were able to sell me a panel addon with some significant feature over fubar |
| 10:09.03 | airtonix | what addon are you using that requires fubar ? |
| 10:09.54 | Mirrormn | none, probably |
| 10:10.28 | Morkesh | are the beta realms working now? |
| 10:10.32 | Mirrormn | shiit, I'm out of space on my main hard drive |
| 10:10.42 | Elkano | well, EBB still uses lfbp... just because I'm too lazy ;) |
| 10:11.10 | Mirrormn | I don't even have the EBB fubar plugin on there :P |
| 10:11.25 | Morkesh | airtonix: what are those unitframes called? they'r beyond sex |
| 10:11.52 | airtonix | Morkesh, based on ouf : ouf_smee2 and the groups are ouf_smee_groups |
| 10:12.07 | Morkesh | aaarh :) |
| 10:12.22 | airtonix | Morkesh, last time i used them was a year ago so they proly dont work now ith some of the changes |
| 10:13.22 | Morkesh | arh well, seeing how it's an ouf template i reckon it wouldn't be that hard to fixc |
| 10:13.24 | Morkesh | fix* |
| 10:13.32 | airtonix | its a bit more than a template |
| 10:13.53 | airtonix | and i didn't use the same style of coding that most of the other templates use |
| 10:14.06 | Mirrormn | mm, I can just move finished beta patchers to storage drive |
| 10:14.08 | Mirrormn | CRISIS AVERTED |
| 10:14.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Sentri (~sentri@tango-179.srv.hosting.fi) |
| 10:14.30 | Morkesh | arh alright airtonix :/ |
| 10:15.00 | airtonix | nothing stopping you from testing though |
| 10:17.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Diao (vince@adsl-99-169-81-4.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:18.39 | A-KO | whoa |
| 10:18.42 | A-KO | they changed the hearth sound |
| 10:19.22 | Mirrormn | hrm |
| 10:19.39 | Mirrormn | if they've changed enough sounds, maybe I'll turn my wow sound back on for the first time in 5 years |
| 10:20.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko (~Kandoko@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/Kandoko) |
| 10:22.21 | airtonix | lol |
| 10:26.00 | Morkesh | any luck connecting today? |
| 10:27.14 | Maldivia | A-KO: some of the sounds seems very wrong to me |
| 10:27.41 | A-KO | the casting sound is weird..... |
| 10:27.44 | A-KO | it might just be a bug |
| 10:27.52 | A-KO | sigh |
| 10:27.56 | A-KO | Orgrimmar went down |
| 10:27.57 | A-KO | fail |
| 10:29.06 | batrick | always nice when Blizzard gets a magical "balance" idea and implements it right away without any thought |
| 10:29.10 | batrick | (RE talents) |
| 10:29.59 | batrick | good to see elementalist spec is now completely fucked |
| 10:30.13 | batrick | after all that invested time from BC -> WOTLK in trying to make it viable |
| 10:30.16 | batrick | roffles |
| 10:30.54 | Fisker | reported for beta removal |
| 10:31.04 | A-KO | oh, awesome |
| 10:31.08 | batrick | reported for bad trolling |
| 10:31.08 | Warloco | :o |
| 10:31.08 | A-KO | crash when entering deepholm |
| 10:31.19 | A-KO | batrick: the new talent trees look awesome |
| 10:31.44 | batrick | the idea is nice but it was poorly thought through |
| 10:31.48 | Fisker | not bad trolling at all batrick |
| 10:31.53 | batrick | which is evident in the half baked trees |
| 10:32.24 | Morkesh | are there any addons that'll calculate liquid gold? |
| 10:32.31 | Warloco | not a big fan of the warlock trees, but im pretty sure theyre nowhere near done |
| 10:32.32 | Morkesh | as in, add up what all your auctions are up for |
| 10:32.48 | batrick | Warloco: that's the case with every class afaik |
| 10:32.59 | Warloco | whats funny though is that there are now a dozen more ways to screw up your talent spec then there were before |
| 10:33.16 | Fisker | ITT: Cataclysm is apparently not in beta |
| 10:33.17 | batrick | wait |
| 10:33.18 | batrick | what? |
| 10:33.22 | batrick | Warloco: are you kidding? |
| 10:33.26 | Warloco | Nope |
| 10:33.30 | batrick | forcing everyone to take 31 points in a tree means |
| 10:33.40 | batrick | almost everyone of that specialty is *exactly* the same |
| 10:33.52 | batrick | so how can you possibly *fuck* up? |
| 10:34.07 | Warloco | look at the early destruction talents and the late demonology talents |
| 10:34.07 | A-KO | you can't |
| 10:34.13 | A-KO | I don't mind that forcing |
| 10:34.15 | batrick | A-KO: my point. |
| 10:34.18 | A-KO | it's going to make the game much better to play |
| 10:34.21 | A-KO | specializations are win |
| 10:34.35 | A-KO | everyone took the same damn talent builds anyway |
| 10:34.40 | A-KO | X/Y/Z |
| 10:34.44 | batrick | i experimented |
| 10:34.47 | A-KO | there was a build for every mix |
| 10:34.47 | batrick | i never did cookie cutters |
| 10:34.55 | A-KO | 99% of people did cookie cutters |
| 10:35.01 | A-KO | this is going to help the game tbh |
| 10:35.05 | batrick | magic statistic is magic |
| 10:35.10 | Warloco | demonology is very bottom heavy, all of the last 4 tiers of talents are DPS talents, and each tier has 6 talent points or more |
| 10:35.11 | A-KO | it's going to get rid of a lot of random bullshit |
| 10:35.13 | Fisker | There's more exprimentation with the current broken pala builds than in live |
| 10:35.25 | A-KO | the builds are generally broken |
| 10:35.28 | A-KO | my druid build is broken |
| 10:35.35 | batrick | anyway |
| 10:35.36 | A-KO | A) I put 31 talent points into the tree, it says I only put 30 |
| 10:35.40 | batrick | customization is now gone gg |
| 10:35.41 | Fisker | no A-KO Cataclysm is apparently already released according to some people |
| 10:35.42 | A-KO | B) I don't have moonkin form |
| 10:35.46 | Maldivia | Warloco: this is a first pass implementation, mainly a trimming an reorganization of talents, where they haven't been changed updated yet |
| 10:35.47 | batrick | everyone will be the same |
| 10:35.50 | Warloco | there seriously is much more opportunity to screw up now than before, which is funny |
| 10:36.04 | batrick | instead of serioulsy fixing the trees blizzard took the easy way out |
| 10:36.05 | Maldivia | A-KO: starsurge was refunded, since you got that from specialization |
| 10:36.26 | A-KO | eh, it's just beta, no big deal |
| 10:36.37 | batrick | change this big is unlikely to be reverted |
| 10:36.43 | Maldivia | A-KO: and I just specced resto, and hve moonkin form :P |
| 10:36.43 | Warloco | but yeah, I know beta is beta- but I dont think they'd have released anything if they didnt also want feedback right? :) |
| 10:36.44 | A-KO | no, it won't be reverted |
| 10:36.51 | Fisker | no but all your ideas is based on current talents |
| 10:36.53 | sylvanaar | ugh - i swear, i just want to log in |
| 10:36.56 | Fisker | and you don't know if they'll stay |
| 10:37.01 | Fisker | so a cup of stfu, etc. |
| 10:37.08 | batrick | Fisker: you can't troll and participate in serious conversation at teh same time. |
| 10:37.12 | batrick | No one will listen to you. |
| 10:37.20 | Fisker | You wouldn't either way |
| 10:37.27 | batrick | Correct. |
| 10:37.29 | Fisker | I'm just annoying you |
| 10:37.33 | batrick | False. |
| 10:37.37 | Fisker | not at all. |
| 10:37.43 | Fisker | It is infact correct |
| 10:37.46 | A-KO | batrick: Fact) People chose cookie cutters, Fact) Nobody cares about the little hacking talents you picked up along the way to make yourself feel "unique" and "special"--in fact, I'd argue that there's almost no point in having 3 different talent trees if they didn't force them anyway |
| 10:37.47 | sylvanaar | nil |
| 10:37.53 | A-KO | because now you're not going to end up with weird, bullshit hybrids |
| 10:38.00 | A-KO | a resto shaman will be a resto shaman |
| 10:38.04 | A-KO | not half resto/half elemental |
| 10:38.08 | A-KO | "because it makes me PVP better" |
| 10:38.18 | A-KO | etc etc. |
| 10:38.23 | A-KO | and whatever other bullshit people used to pull |
| 10:38.28 | batrick | You are presenting facts as if it supports your case. |
| 10:38.31 | Warloco | A-KO, well resto now has a bunch of elemental-esque talents, no? |
| 10:38.34 | Maldivia | it makes balancing a lot easier, and can make talent trees more streamline |
| 10:38.37 | batrick | which, by the way, I don't know anymore |
| 10:38.42 | A-KO | yeah Maldivia |
| 10:38.46 | batrick | My point is that customization is now gone. |
| 10:38.50 | A-KO | each class can actually gets its abilities up front now |
| 10:39.24 | A-KO | which is awesome |
| 10:39.24 | A-KO | moonkin form at level 10? |
| 10:39.25 | A-KO | sweet |
| 10:39.25 | Fisker | Cataclysm is still in beta batrick |
| 10:39.25 | A-KO | that's great IMO |
| 10:39.25 | A-KO | Fisker: That means nothing to him, he wants the trees reverted to their old style--which won't happen |
| 10:39.25 | A-KO | it doesn't matter if XYZ talents mix around |
| 10:39.29 | Maldivia | batrick: they redid the 30 trees over the last 2-3 weeks, yeah, it's preliminary only at the moment, go figure |
| 10:39.30 | batrick | A-KO: I never said that |
| 10:39.31 | A-KO | he wants to be able to do like, 28/10/10 builds or w/e |
| 10:39.56 | batrick | Maldivia: a change this big was discussed/implemented seemingly in a week or two. |
| 10:39.58 | A-KO | No matter what happens in the talent builds, you'll still have to put 31 points into a tree |
| 10:40.07 | batrick | which evidently means they didn't put much thought into it |
| 10:40.12 | A-KO | no batrick, they've probably had this in the works for months |
| 10:40.20 | Fisker | Cataclysm is still in beta batrick |
| 10:40.22 | batrick | *ya* sure |
| 10:40.23 | batrick | because |
| 10:40.30 | batrick | they weren't changing talents before this change |
| 10:40.50 | batrick | if they were doing a major revamp they woudln't have bothered fucking with talents at all in early beta |
| 10:40.50 | Warloco | they couldve easily still been discussing it though |
| 10:40.52 | Fisker | There's this thing called developement |
| 10:41.00 | Fisker | sometimes you come up with several solutions to one problem |
| 10:41.05 | A-KO | they were definitely discussing it |
| 10:41.08 | Mirrormn | isn't the point of reducing the size of the talent trees actually to make it so you can pick more non-cookie-cutter talents that actually do things |
| 10:41.13 | Fisker | They went with a design that they, at the time, thought was best |
| 10:41.13 | Mirrormn | leading to variation of specs? |
| 10:41.14 | A-KO | no Mirrormn |
| 10:41.14 | Maldivia | batrick: they've had the idea for a long time, but the actual implementation is only 3 weeks or so |
| 10:41.31 | Fisker | Then they found out that wasn't the case, and they revived another design they had already worked on previously |
| 10:41.40 | A-KO | Mirrormn: you're going to be forced 31 points into a tree--period, doesn't matter which tree it is--so there's likely going to be a cookie cutter build for every spec now, because you only get 41 talents total |
| 10:42.03 | batrick | I like how I present my opinion based on an observers point of view while everyone else has insider information on what actually went on. |
| 10:42.04 | A-KO | it's a good change |
| 10:42.04 | Mirrormn | yes but the points within a tree have more significance |
| 10:42.11 | A-KO | it will vastly simplify the complexity |
| 10:42.22 | A-KO | batrick |
| 10:42.34 | A-KO | you do know that there are people here that are A) either blizz employees, or B) know people there |
| 10:42.35 | batrick | A-KO: |
| 10:42.35 | A-KO | heh |
| 10:42.36 | A-KO | just an FYI |
| 10:42.47 | batrick | but they aren't saying as much |
| 10:42.55 | batrick | they just spout these "facts" as if they did know |
| 10:42.59 | batrick | which I strongly suspect they don't |
| 10:43.07 | batrick | since everyone is saying slightly different things |
| 10:43.12 | batrick | just to fanboi defend blizzard |
| 10:43.14 | batrick | so, ya. |
| 10:43.16 | mikma | trela: not yet, but i am working on it ;) |
| 10:43.20 | Warloco | I think you guys need more cake |
| 10:43.22 | A-KO | well, there's a solution--quit the game, cancel your account based on a beta that is about 4 months prior to the game's release. |
| 10:43.31 | batrick | my account is canceled |
| 10:43.31 | Fisker | WHy would anyone be a "fanboi"? |
| 10:43.37 | Fisker | It's usually more popular to not be a fanboi |
| 10:43.37 | batrick | it's been canceled. |
| 10:43.47 | A-KO | Fisker: you mean, the anti-fanboi fanboi? |
| 10:43.55 | Fisker | Funny how i wasn't busy licking boot with the Real ID too |
| 10:44.03 | A-KO | I enjoy RealID |
| 10:44.09 | Fisker | And how i didn't actually present my point as an fact |
| 10:44.09 | A-KO | I wish they'd merge beta realid and live though |
| 10:44.11 | A-KO | :( |
| 10:44.16 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 10:44.23 | Fisker | and cross-region too |
| 10:44.25 | A-KO | so I can at least chat while leveling |
| 10:44.26 | Warloco | I didnt care too much about realid, I just never saw the point of real names |
| 10:44.28 | A-KO | cross-region would be win |
| 10:44.48 | A-KO | I should probably shower |
| 10:44.51 | Fisker | me neither Warloco |
| 10:45.03 | A-KO | you know |
| 10:45.04 | A-KO | funny thing is |
| 10:45.04 | Fisker | but a month ago or so a lot of my friends transferred server |
| 10:45.17 | A-KO | I've got some old guildies on my realID |
| 10:45.21 | A-KO | and I still think of them as their wow char |
| 10:45.23 | A-KO | rather than their real name |
| 10:45.27 | A-KO | lol |
| 10:45.39 | A-KO | interesting how that works out |
| 10:45.54 | Warloco | its annoying, I see people with realid online on an alt and im like- wait; who the fuck is that? |
| 10:46.05 | Warloco | 'cause I dont know their real names |
| 10:46.10 | A-KO | see, I generaly know my guildies' real names also |
| 10:46.12 | A-KO | regardless |
| 10:46.18 | A-KO | my old guild used real names in vent all the time |
| 10:46.23 | A-KO | first names of course |
| 10:46.26 | A-KO | but names nonetheless |
| 10:46.43 | A-KO | except when you had a name too much like someone else |
| 10:46.45 | Warloco | I think we burn through too many members to do that |
| 10:46.50 | Warloco | esspecially during summer time |
| 10:47.28 | A-KO | It was really fun because of all the accents people had across the US and Canada in my guild |
| 10:47.33 | A-KO | and we had this guy named "Ken" |
| 10:47.40 | A-KO | and the various pronunciations of that cracked me |
| 10:47.42 | A-KO | up |
| 10:47.49 | A-KO | "Ken" "Kin" etc etc. |
| 10:48.03 | Warloco | thats another reason it wouldnt work for us, we have tons of greeks and arabs in the guild |
| 10:48.12 | Warloco | nothing against them, but I cant wrap my tongue around their names |
| 10:48.25 | A-KO | eh, I always try |
| 10:48.40 | theorbtwo | Warloco: You won't get better if you don't try. |
| 10:49.01 | Warloco | hey I'm already fluent in 2 languages while dyslectic, give me a break :p |
| 10:49.11 | A-KO | trust me when I say, nothing is harder to do than pronounce half the names used in the world when you speak nothing except American English :P |
| 10:49.36 | A-KO | when many of the sounds used are never, ever present in any everyday usage of any word |
| 10:49.37 | A-KO | lol |
| 10:49.55 | A-KO | Especially if you try to use the accents |
| 10:50.20 | Warloco | so erm, does anyone know if WoWI burnt through all their invites, or if there's more coming? |
| 10:50.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaso (~Kaso@89.240.5.140) |
| 10:50.27 | A-KO | probably more coming |
| 10:50.30 | A-KO | you know |
| 10:50.37 | A-KO | I can only imagine there's a ton of mod authors that were like "OMFG" |
| 10:50.44 | A-KO | and then updated their mods, 2 years out |
| 10:50.47 | A-KO | "gimme beta invite plx" |
| 10:50.51 | Warloco | im like a handful of tickets away :( |
| 10:51.18 | A-KO | THankfully the one I worked on has still kept updated :P though if you made it 3.3 compatible, that wasn't too hard to do |
| 10:51.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Mirrormn_ (6213bd96@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.19.189.150) |
| 10:51.34 | A-KO | My friend can stop bugging me for an invite now :( |
| 10:51.48 | Warloco | I hadnt updated most of my addons because they still worked fine,. only had an old interface o.o |
| 10:51.58 | Sentri | My friend is number 199 :D |
| 10:52.03 | Sentri | and they gave out 198 |
| 10:52.04 | Warloco | haha |
| 10:52.29 | Warloco | must be pretty bummed |
| 10:53.06 | Sentri | yeah |
| 10:53.25 | Sentri | at first he was like "wohoo I just got in to the next batch of keys" |
| 10:53.35 | Sentri | because we thought they would give 151-200 |
| 10:53.41 | Warloco | im 203, so I was already not expecting to be in the next batch |
| 10:55.06 | Sentri | I hope I could log in though |
| 10:55.17 | Sentri | I was number 10 :) |
| 10:55.22 | Maldivia | wee, worgen outland quests were fixed :P |
| 10:55.58 | A-KO | fail |
| 10:56.03 | A-KO | looks like no leveling in deepholm tonight |
| 10:56.05 | A-KO | I keep crashing |
| 10:56.15 | A-KO | shower time |
| 10:56.22 | Maldivia | well, the worlds server are... somewhat unstable |
| 10:59.08 | Sentri | :P |
| 10:59.35 | Sentri | I'd prefer unstable beta than sitting in dalaran on live bored |
| 10:59.50 | mikma | lol-ta |
| 11:00.33 | Morkesh | i still can't log in :( |
| 11:03.00 | Mirrormn_ | woo, I found 4.5gb worth of space to delete from os drive |
| 11:03.07 | Mirrormn_ | beta installation continues! |
| 11:04.24 | airtonix | Mirrormn, if you delete windows you'll get another 15gb |
| 11:04.32 | Mirrormn | hmm |
| 11:04.35 | Mirrormn | don't need it now |
| 11:04.39 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 11:04.42 | airtonix | DO ETT |
| 11:04.43 | Mirrormn | but if I need the space later I will |
| 11:04.50 | airtonix | purge |
| 11:04.53 | Mirrormn | I bet windows would disallow it anyway |
| 11:04.58 | airtonix | CLEANSE |
| 11:05.18 | airtonix | purifies Fisker |
| 11:05.21 | Mirrormn | I'd probably have to go into the security properties, make myself the owner of the folder, and then allow myself to delete first |
| 11:05.31 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:05.42 | Fisker | hows the beta airtonix? |
| 11:05.52 | airtonix | terrific... this new video player is awesome |
| 11:05.59 | Mirrormn | his beta's so betalicious for you, fisker |
| 11:06.01 | Fisker | what new video player? |
| 11:06.03 | airtonix | and my space ship can orbit planets |
| 11:06.12 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 11:06.39 | Mirrormn | can't the wow ui handle playing of divx files? I seem to recall an addon several years ago that played a rickroll video |
| 11:06.56 | Fisker | that was textures |
| 11:07.00 | Fisker | as far as i recall |
| 11:07.04 | airtonix | yeah |
| 11:07.12 | Mirrormn | no I'm fairly certain it was a .divx file |
| 11:07.18 | Fisker | It can play its own divx files though |
| 11:07.24 | airtonix | the intros are |
| 11:07.33 | Fisker | but i think that's a function not in LUA-space so to speak |
| 11:08.08 | Mirrormn | it was called HighRoller, I think |
| 11:08.22 | Mirrormn | I swear to god I remember there being a .divx file in that addon's folder |
| 11:09.26 | Mirrormn | yeah, I just downloaded it again |
| 11:09.42 | Mirrormn | the video is Algorithm.avi |
| 11:10.41 | Mirrormn | which is encoded in DXGM |
| 11:10.49 | Mirrormn | which from what I can gather from google, is just divx |
| 11:12.05 | Maldivia | Worgen hard... or hardly Worgen? |
| 11:13.07 | Mirrormn | local RickRollFrame=CreateFrame("MovieFrame") |
| 11:13.14 | Mirrormn | RickRollFrame:StartMovie("Interface\\AddOns\\HighRoller\\Libs\\LibRollCall-2.0\\Algorithm",255) |
| 11:13.20 | Mirrormn | maybe they took that out |
| 11:13.47 | Fisker | they usually do! |
| 11:13.58 | Fisker | Just like how they took out built-in streaming |
| 11:14.21 | Mirrormn | streaming of what? |
| 11:14.33 | Fisker | music |
| 11:14.46 | Fisker | you could listen to net radios and such in pre-tbc |
| 11:14.59 | foxlit | sandbox piercing bug, that |
| 11:15.04 | Fisker | duh |
| 11:15.25 | Fisker | They already have that, and they haven't cared about tha t |
| 11:15.28 | Fisker | that* |
| 11:16.03 | foxlit | who the what now? |
| 11:16.19 | Mirrormn | nope, they didn't take it out |
| 11:16.26 | Mirrormn | wow can still play divx files |
| 11:16.34 | Mirrormn | although it seems kind of buggy |
| 11:16.47 | foxlit | it is kind of picky about what it can play. |
| 11:16.53 | Fisker | you can still communicate with the game through the interface |
| 11:17.04 | Fisker | so they should've fixed that too |
| 11:17.07 | foxlit | Mediocre, Fisker. I expect better. |
| 11:17.12 | Fisker | or give us streaming back |
| 11:17.26 | Fisker | better what? |
| 11:17.38 | Mirrormn | I'm hoping the bugginess is just cause the addon is really old |
| 11:18.06 | foxlit | Why would you want to show a video in-game, though? |
| 11:18.18 | Mirrormn | WHY WOULDN'T I |
| 11:18.31 | foxlit | Because WoW is not WMP. |
| 11:18.38 | Mirrormn | it could be |
| 11:18.38 | Morkesh | hahahaha :D that highroller addon is epic! |
| 11:18.51 | foxlit | And that'd be stupid :) |
| 11:18.56 | Mirrormn | nuh-uh! |
| 11:19.01 | Fisker | so foxlit umad? |
| 11:19.14 | Mirrormn | he's just jealous |
| 11:19.18 | Mirrormn | that I can watch rick astley shakes his thang |
| 11:19.20 | Mirrormn | and he can't |
| 11:19.22 | Fisker | yeah... he is |
| 11:20.02 | Morkesh | well |
| 11:20.11 | Morkesh | it's ideal with the ability to play videos |
| 11:20.21 | Morkesh | fx. if you'r playing a faceroll class like arcane mage or ret paladin |
| 11:20.39 | Morkesh | you'd like to have a window playing hardcore porn meanwhile |
| 11:21.04 | Morkesh | or you could take a striptease video and cut it into pieces, and make it so it would play a clip of her stripping further the higher dps you do |
| 11:21.06 | Mirrormn | someone just asked me last night to write him an addon that would plaster pictures of breasts all across his screen |
| 11:21.34 | Mirrormn | like, no jokesies |
| 11:21.40 | foxlit | The approach is fundamentally bad -- chances are you'll have to transcode files, you won't be able to add new videos while wow is running, and everything you can achieve is easily replicable with a video overlay layer or always-on-top media player. |
| 11:21.40 | Mirrormn | he was serious |
| 11:21.48 | Fisker | not sure Cairenn would approve that for the author keys |
| 11:22.04 | Mirrormn | maybe not |
| 11:22.13 | Mirrormn | but what if I made it play clips of the Old Spice guy? |
| 11:22.28 | Mirrormn | SEE?? |
| 11:22.32 | foxlit | [Of course, I just don't see the appeal since I already have a second screen.] |
| 11:22.39 | Mirrormn | yeah I do too |
| 11:22.45 | Fisker | you could make it for a bossmod |
| 11:22.50 | Morkesh | the possibilities are endless |
| 11:23.00 | Fisker | have all sorts of annoying movies play when you defeat a boss |
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| 11:23.17 | Mirrormn | I have become convinced in the past 5 minutes that playing movies in wow is not only extremely useful functionality |
| 11:23.19 | Morkesh | you could keep kids entertained through wiping with an addon that would play family guy clips upon wiping or random clips of homer saying DOH |
| 11:23.25 | Mirrormn | but that it is, in fact, a god-given right |
| 11:24.19 | Mirrormn | I actually stuck an animation of the Lich King on the front page of my addon's configuration, just for eye candy |
| 11:24.36 | Morkesh | what does it do? |
| 11:24.50 | Mirrormn | it's just the in-game model of him |
| 11:24.56 | Mirrormn | doing an animation where he points his sword at you |
| 11:24.59 | Mirrormn | menacingly |
| 11:25.08 | Morkesh | i meant the addon, is it related to the lich king in any way? |
| 11:25.16 | Mirrormn | oh |
| 11:25.25 | Mirrormn | www.wowace.com/addons/lkannounce |
| 11:25.40 | Mirrormn | it handles assignments and announcement of a bunch of stuff in the LK fight |
| 11:26.02 | Morkesh | aaarh :) |
| 11:26.26 | Mirrormn | I wrote it because I couldn't think of any sure-fire way to handle stun and slow assignments for Val'kyr in phase 2 |
| 11:26.52 | Mirrormn | because even if you assign a backup for each one, it's still possible for your main and backup to be picked up |
| 11:26.54 | Mirrormn | and then you're screwed! |
| 11:27.01 | theorbtwo | Aww, doe sthe Litch King not have a dance animation? |
| 11:27.27 | Mirrormn | and then I added on every other thing I could think of that could be helpful in the fight that regular boss encounter addons do not support |
| 11:27.38 | Mirrormn | and no, he doesn't have a dance animation |
| 11:27.40 | Mirrormn | :( |
| 11:28.06 | Morkesh | hehe, well Mirrormn, when we did him, if i got picked up as a holy paladin maintank healer, our tank would pop aura mastery on the next infest so other healers could assist more on the tanks |
| 11:28.13 | Morkesh | and you can still AM while grabbed |
| 11:28.49 | Mirrormn | my addon announces suggestions for infest cooldowns, and disqualifies people from its priority when they are picked up by val'kyr |
| 11:28.57 | Mirrormn | :> |
| 11:29.29 | Fisker | http://kotaku.com/5586641/tim-schafer-calls-activision-boss-a-total-prick |
| 11:30.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | anyone doing the win7 sp1 beta? |
| 11:30.58 | frontendloader | Fisker: brutal legend was bad and kotick was right to drop it. |
| 11:31.20 | Morkesh | arh :D sounds clever Mirrormn |
| 11:31.47 | Mirrormn | I just wish I could do more to trivialize defiles |
| 11:32.02 | Fisker | Funny how they sued over it then frontendloader |
| 11:32.03 | Mirrormn | but with no positioning information available in phase 2... there's not much I can do |
| 11:32.24 | Fisker | funny thing to sue other people for something they apparently themselves dropped because it was apparently crap |
| 11:32.42 | Fisker | Either way it doesn't change that kotick is a prick :3 |
| 11:33.31 | Fisker | i'm doing it sylvanaar |
| 11:33.36 | Fisker | doing it hard |
| 11:34.01 | Morkesh | hmmm Mirrormn, i've no idea if it's possible but couldn't you save the position of the first defile target, and make an arrow point to an optimal spot for the 2nd? |
| 11:34.54 | Mirrormn | no, because you can't get any positioning information |
| 11:35.14 | Mirrormn | well you could maybe get IsSpellInRange type stuff |
| 11:35.20 | Mirrormn | but I can't see that being super useful |
| 11:35.49 | Fisker | slaps sylvanaar_atwork around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:36.41 | Mirrormn | I *wanted* to make a thing where it would record the positions of every person in your raid at like 10-15 fps during the casting of each defile, and then you would be able to play back an animation of where everybody stood and moved, etc |
| 11:36.48 | Mirrormn | after the attempt |
| 11:36.57 | Mirrormn | to see who's moving slow, who's in the wrong place, etc. |
| 11:37.00 | mikma | slaps fisker around a bit with a large beta-key |
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| 11:37.20 | Mirrormn | but it just wasn't to be |
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| 11:42.28 | Morkesh | i wanna update that smee2 ouf thing linked earlier |
| 11:42.31 | Morkesh | it looks so damn nice |
| 11:43.36 | Mirrormn | hrm |
| 11:43.45 | Mirrormn | yeah MovieFrames are really buggy |
| 11:44.55 | mikma | oh lord this patching is rediculous |
| 11:44.59 | Mirrormn | I can't find any way to play one without having a totally messed up render of the UI splashed all over it |
| 11:45.03 | mikma | "not enough free space blah blah" |
| 11:45.20 | Mirrormn | my beta folder is using close to 30GB now |
| 11:45.39 | mikma | i had to move all sort of stuff away from the hdd to free space... :P |
| 11:45.45 | Mirrormn | the only solution is to not set it to UIParent and then hide the UI while it's being played |
| 11:45.52 | Mirrormn | yeah, I had to do that too |
| 11:46.03 | mikma | let's hope 4.5gb is enough to patch the latest |
| 11:46.43 | Morkesh | oh is there a new patch mikma? O.o |
| 11:46.49 | mikma | nope |
| 11:47.01 | mikma | WoW-4.0.0.12232-to-4.0.0.12266-enGB-patch.exe |
| 11:47.03 | Morkesh | arh phew |
| 11:47.06 | mikma | trying to patch that one |
| 11:49.16 | foxlit | mikma: fully patched cata install is 32.6 GB |
| 11:49.28 | foxlit | (not counting any of the updaters) |
| 11:50.16 | Jamash | so uh, how many beta patches are there? (en-us) |
| 11:50.57 | foxlit | plenty. 12479 is the latest build. |
| 11:53.23 | Jamash | is there a way to give blanket permission for Blizzard signed software to go through the windows 7 firewall? |
| 11:56.01 | Xinhuan | not that i knowof |
| 11:56.06 | Jamash | sigh |
| 11:57.05 | Jamash | my firewall has 34 rules for the blizzard downloader |
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| 11:59.26 | krka | what's this "activated arcane missiles" buff you can get in cataclysm beta? |
| 11:59.38 | krka | or is that something old? |
| 11:59.41 | Jamash | isn't arcane missiles now a proc based ability? |
| 12:00.08 | krka | no idea |
| 12:00.16 | Jamash | I seem to recall |
| 12:00.42 | Maldivia | krka: Arcane Missile! |
| 12:00.51 | krka | "Each offensive spell you cast has a 30% chance to activate Arcane Missiles." does that mean that you can only cast it when the buff is up? |
| 12:00.58 | Jamash | yeah |
| 12:00.58 | Maldivia | yes |
| 12:01.05 | krka | ah i see |
| 12:01.22 | Jamash | but I think it's instant now? |
| 12:01.23 | Maldivia | and the old arcane talent that procced speedy AM, is now always speedy :P |
| 12:01.43 | krka | i guess it's done to make mages use more spells? |
| 12:01.44 | Maldivia | and ABarrage is 100% AM proc |
| 12:02.21 | Jamash | I'd link the mmo champ mage page but mmo champ is down >.> |
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| 12:03.07 | Mirrormn | did I just hear someone call for rule 34 on the blizzard downloader? |
| 12:03.18 | Jamash | did... what... damnit |
| 12:03.19 | airtonix | YES |
| 12:03.23 | Jamash | NO |
| 12:03.30 | Jamash | argh |
| 12:03.35 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:03.41 | airtonix | gief rule |
| 12:03.45 | Mirrormn | also, if you want to freeze your WoW, type "/run MovieFrame:Show()" |
| 12:03.49 | Mirrormn | just in case you wanted to |
| 12:03.54 | airtonix | ok |
| 12:04.11 | Maldivia | krka: http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/79683/arcane-missiles/ |
| 12:04.25 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:04.33 | Mirrormn | that's gay |
| 12:05.08 | Maldivia | but run is disabled on beta :/ |
| 12:05.25 | Jamash | dar |
| 12:06.59 | mikma | durrr |
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| 12:08.36 | Mirrormn | I wonder if I could hack into MovieFrame to keep the movie that plays after you kill the Lich King from playing |
| 12:08.48 | Morkesh | hmm |
| 12:09.47 | Morkesh | MovieFrame:HookScript("OnShow", function() MovieFrame:Hide() end) |
| 12:09.53 | Morkesh | would probably do it? |
| 12:09.55 | Mirrormn | basically |
| 12:10.13 | Mirrormn | but MovieFrame:StopMovie() would be better |
| 12:10.18 | Mirrormn | I think |
| 12:10.22 | Morkesh | so change hide to StopMovie :P |
| 12:10.32 | Mirrormn | well the problem is not figuring out how to code it |
| 12:10.40 | Mirrormn | the problem is figuring out how to see if it works |
| 12:10.45 | Morkesh | haha :P |
| 12:10.46 | Mirrormn | without actually going and killing the lich king |
| 12:10.50 | Morkesh | hmm |
| 12:11.09 | Morkesh | give me 2 seconds |
| 12:11.36 | Mirrormn | also, that squelches *all* movies, which might be bad |
| 12:11.43 | Mirrormn | so probably a zone check would be in order |
| 12:11.58 | Elkano | well, first have it work for all, then for only that one |
| 12:12.35 | Morkesh | hmm |
| 12:12.48 | Morkesh | is movieframe the name of it? :/ framestack wont work for it |
| 12:13.03 | Mirrormn | well |
| 12:13.11 | Mirrormn | there's a frame called MovieFrame |
| 12:13.14 | Mirrormn | that's all I know about it |
| 12:13.59 | Jamash | YES, I did it |
| 12:14.07 | Mirrormn | no you didn't |
| 12:14.15 | Jamash | yes I did |
| 12:14.41 | Jamash | I figured out how to blanket allow blizzard downloaders through the windows 7 firewall |
| 12:15.27 | Jamash | now I just need to do the same thing for the blizzard launcher |
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| 12:15.57 | Mirrormn | I want to say "ooh, just in time for the Nobody Cares parade" |
| 12:16.05 | Mirrormn | but I am much too loving to say something hateful like that |
| 12:16.06 | Jamash | bite me |
| 12:16.13 | Mirrormn | hugs Jamash |
| 12:16.20 | Jamash | gives Mirrormn a wedgie |
| 12:16.33 | Jamash | <3 |
| 12:16.44 | Mirrormn | is not wearing any underwear! |
| 12:16.52 | Jamash | TMI |
| 12:17.08 | Mirrormn | you're the one who stuck his hands down there |
| 12:17.20 | Morkesh | is there a way to code a delay in lua? :P |
| 12:17.34 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 12:17.44 | Jamash | there are various timing libraries |
| 12:18.08 | Jamash | I recommend using one instead of trying to code your own delay |
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| 12:19.02 | Mirrormn | f=CreateFrame("FRAME"); f.elapsed=0; f:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(self, elapsed) self.elapsed = self.elapsed + elapsed; if(elapsed > DELAY) then do --stuff end); |
| 12:19.20 | Mirrormn | you can use animations too but I don't know anything about animations |
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| 12:19.45 | Mirrormn | oh that should be if(self.elapsed > DELAY) |
| 12:19.50 | Elkano | an other way would be to use AceTimer-3.0 iirc |
| 12:20.04 | Fisker | gentlemen |
| 12:20.10 | Mirrormn | well acetimer-3.0 does that, it just handles more than one function at once |
| 12:20.19 | Morkesh | arh :) |
| 12:20.19 | airtonix | LADIES! |
| 12:20.39 | Mirrormn | wow |
| 12:20.43 | Mirrormn | out of space AGAIN |
| 12:21.10 | Mirrormn | Cataclysm is like occupying a full 1/2 of my os drive now |
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| 12:21.19 | Jamash | I am soooo glad I got a 500GB drive this time |
| 12:21.34 | Mirrormn | well, I have a 1TB storage drive |
| 12:21.43 | Mirrormn | I foolishly thought I could fit cata on my SSD |
| 12:21.49 | Jamash | ahahaha |
| 12:21.54 | Mirrormn | doesn't seem like that's the case |
| 12:22.11 | Mirrormn | I think it's time to give it up and just move the whole thing off |
| 12:22.18 | Jamash | yep |
| 12:22.34 | foxlit | What's your SSD's capacity? |
| 12:22.42 | Mirrormn | 80GB |
| 12:22.43 | Maldivia | Mirrormn: my cata installation is 36 gig :P |
| 12:22.44 | Jamash | INSUFFICIENT LOL |
| 12:22.49 | Fisker | omg |
| 12:22.56 | Mirrormn | x-25m g2 |
| 12:22.57 | Fisker | why can't i watch my damn mkv's anymore? |
| 12:23.00 | Fisker | haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalp |
| 12:23.02 | foxlit | Move other junk off it :P |
| 12:23.04 | mikma | well, i got one trick up my sleeve... delete TF2 ^^ |
| 12:23.11 | Mirrormn | I've been doing that literally all night long |
| 12:23.11 | Jamash | 1. VLC 2. watch |
| 12:23.24 | Mirrormn | searching for things I can delete and/or move |
| 12:23.27 | Fisker | no Jamash |
| 12:23.28 | Fisker | never. |
| 12:23.32 | Jamash | you can move steam whole |
| 12:23.46 | airtonix | steams on Jamashs face |
| 12:23.49 | Jamash | I don't recommend deleting tf2 cause the engineer update is out |
| 12:23.54 | Jamash | and engineers are awesome |
| 12:23.59 | airtonix | <heavy breathing/> |
| 12:24.04 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHhUcabwkuw |
| 12:24.14 | Mirrormn | I actually don't know where my steam is right now |
| 12:24.28 | Mirrormn | I bought borderlands a couple months ago but I'll be fucked if I know what drive it's on anymore |
| 12:24.42 | airtonix | i formatted that drive via ssh |
| 12:24.46 | foxlit | Teehee, subtitles |
| 12:24.49 | Mirrormn | damn you -.- |
| 12:24.55 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.02 | foxlit | Totally unfair. |
| 12:25.19 | airtonix | FiskerTitles |
| 12:25.48 | Jamash | don't drink the tea! it's full of drugs! |
| 12:26.37 | foxlit | surprisingly, I wrote a subtitle renderer. |
| 12:27.01 | Fisker | unsurprisingly Windows Update is bitching so brb |
| 12:27.10 | foxlit | Silly apple products not supporting softsubs. |
| 12:27.23 | foxlit | Hey, I wonder if Android does. |
| 12:27.40 | Jamash | Android does what appledoesn't |
| 12:27.55 | Jamash | like make calls olol |
| 12:28.16 | Mirrormn | this is what's wrong with the internet today |
| 12:28.24 | foxlit | Though to their credit, apple seems to support mp4 subs. |
| 12:28.28 | Mirrormn | some guy has an opinion on VLC |
| 12:28.31 | Wobin | ... wtf.. holy priests get -Desperate Prayer-? |
| 12:28.37 | Arrowmaster | mp4 subs are fucking horrible though |
| 12:28.40 | Jamash | Wobin: haha |
| 12:28.41 | Mirrormn | but instead of just having it where I could read it in 3 seconds |
| 12:28.44 | Wobin | what a useless autolearn =P |
| 12:28.48 | Arrowmaster | like worse than SRT |
| 12:28.49 | Mirrormn | I have to watch a whole 3 minutes long video about it |
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| 12:28.52 | Mirrormn | urrrrgh |
| 12:28.57 | Jamash | They should make it lightwell |
| 12:28.58 | Wobin | I mean shadow get mind flay and Disc get Penance |
| 12:29.01 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: mm? |
| 12:29.07 | Wobin | but ffs, Desperate PRayer? =P |
| 12:29.10 | Jamash | or improved death |
| 12:29.16 | Mirrormn | yeah, holy priests with desperate prayer is kind of retarded |
| 12:29.21 | Wobin | improved death would be rofl worthy |
| 12:29.23 | Mirrormn | I don't even spec that talent |
| 12:29.40 | Jamash | desperate prayer has saved my bacon once or twice |
| 12:29.56 | airtonix | mmmmm |
| 12:29.59 | airtonix | bacon |
| 12:30.07 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 12:30.08 | airtonix | holy priests are retarded |
| 12:30.21 | Mirrormn | no way bro |
| 12:30.22 | Mirrormn | no way |
| 12:30.25 | airtonix | ya way |
| 12:30.30 | Mirrormn | no no way way |
| 12:30.32 | airtonix | DISCO STU in the house |
| 12:30.41 | Mirrormn | my opinion is more valid because I said it twice |
| 12:30.42 | Jamash | holy is a totally valid playstyle |
| 12:30.48 | airtonix | its boring |
| 12:30.54 | Mirrormn | oh wow |
| 12:30.58 | Mirrormn | have you tried disc lately? |
| 12:30.59 | Jamash | hey hey you you I don't like your talent spec |
| 12:31.02 | Fisker | omg servers up |
| 12:31.07 | Jamash | no way no way I think you need a new one |
| 12:31.13 | Mirrormn | it's about the most boring thing ever invented |
| 12:31.22 | Wobin | Hey Fisker |
| 12:31.24 | airtonix | i stopped playing a year ago |
| 12:31.35 | Wobin | oh nice timing, I just got home and copied the beta from my laptop |
| 12:31.52 | foxlit | He's probably referring to EU live. |
| 12:31.57 | airtonix | haha |
| 12:32.01 | Fisker | omg servers down |
| 12:32.04 | airtonix | lulz |
| 12:32.23 | airtonix | steams on fisker |
| 12:32.26 | Fisker | or actually is just the random disconnects apparently |
| 12:33.08 | Fisker | rage |
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| 12:34.11 | Fisker | omg server down |
| 12:34.33 | Jamash | writing patch-5.mpq |
| 12:34.39 | Morkesh | Mirrormn: this movieframe is a bitch -.- |
| 12:34.45 | Fisker | omg server up |
| 12:35.08 | Fisker | omg server down |
| 12:35.13 | Fisker | they better stop this soon :( |
| 12:35.17 | Mirrormn | yeah it is, Morkesh |
| 12:35.41 | Morkesh | StopMovie wont fire due to a slight delay from OnShow until it plays |
| 12:36.01 | Fisker | omg |
| 12:36.02 | Morkesh | if you do MovieFrame:HookScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) and check if the event is PLAY_MOVIE, for some reason i can't move my character |
| 12:36.23 | Fisker | duh! |
| 12:37.39 | Mirrormn | hrm |
| 12:37.51 | Fisker | funny how only EU and KR servers are down |
| 12:37.58 | airtonix | lol |
| 12:38.08 | Mirrormn | I did "/run MovieFrame:HookScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) print(event) end);" and it's just not doing anything |
| 12:38.23 | Mirrormn | even when I play a movie on it |
| 12:38.34 | Morkesh | i did it! |
| 12:39.06 | Fisker | omg |
| 12:39.12 | Mirrormn | did what? |
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| 12:39.32 | Fisker | hey sylvanaar |
| 12:39.49 | Fisker | haha |
| 12:39.51 | Fisker | motherf.... |
| 12:39.55 | Morkesh | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138576 works for me Mikk |
| 12:39.58 | Morkesh | Mirrormn* |
| 12:40.19 | Morkesh | no wait, slight misstype somewhere :P but without the arg1 check it worked |
| 12:40.30 | Jamash | omg last patch is downloading |
| 12:42.20 | Fisker | omg server down Jamash |
| 12:42.21 | Mirrormn | that doesn't work for me |
| 12:42.32 | Jamash | cries |
| 12:43.14 | Fisker | omg server up Jamash |
| 12:43.20 | Mirrormn | not either way |
| 12:43.27 | Morkesh | hmm :S how are you testing? |
| 12:43.33 | Morkesh | i'm just playing it from the fountain |
| 12:43.40 | Mirrormn | oh wowwww |
| 12:43.44 | Mirrormn | I forgot about the fountain |
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| 12:43.50 | Morkesh | bah, need to take my friends dog for a walk since he's out with the kids |
| 12:43.54 | Fisker | omg server down Jamash |
| 12:43.56 | Morkesh | so i'll bbl :) |
| 12:43.58 | Fisker | omg server up Jamash |
| 12:44.00 | Jamash | Mirrormn is killing the lich king each time he's testing |
| 12:44.06 | Morkesh | haha :p |
| 12:44.07 | Fisker | do you want to subscribe to my updates? |
| 12:44.16 | Mirrormn | I had to learn to solo LK to code my addon |
| 12:44.18 | Mirrormn | so yeah |
| 12:44.20 | Jamash | do you have rss? |
| 12:44.22 | Morkesh | try removing the arg1 check Mirrormn, worked for me |
| 12:44.25 | Morkesh | on the fountain that is |
| 12:44.27 | Mirrormn | I did |
| 12:44.33 | Mirrormn | but I wasn't playing it from the fountain |
| 12:44.36 | Morkesh | arh |
| 12:44.46 | Mirrormn | did you register the PLAY_MOVIE event on MovieFrame first? |
| 12:44.53 | Morkesh | nope |
| 12:45.01 | Morkesh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/test/FrameXML/MovieFrame.lua |
| 12:45.23 | Morkesh | you'll see the PLAY_MOVIE event check up top |
| 12:45.25 | Mirrormn | ah yeah, it works for me from the fountain |
| 12:45.52 | Morkesh | i wonder if you could just unregisterevent PLAY_MOVIE |
| 12:45.55 | foxlit | You're doing it wrong. |
| 12:46.09 | foxlit | The correct syntax for killing everything is MovieFrame_PlayMovie = GameMovieFinished |
| 12:46.29 | Mirrormn | well I don't really want to kill everything, just the LK movie |
| 12:47.18 | foxlit | In terms of movies you'll casually encounter, that is everything. |
| 12:47.37 | Mirrormn | that's such lazy coding -.- |
| 12:47.46 | Fisker | omg server down Jamash |
| 12:48.02 | Fisker | (up) |
| 12:48.02 | Mirrormn | what if I made an alt |
| 12:48.04 | foxlit | lazy is a virtue :) |
| 12:48.11 | Mirrormn | and wanted to watch the wrath gate cinematic |
| 12:48.13 | Mirrormn | OH NOPE |
| 12:48.17 | Mirrormn | FOXLIT WON'T LET ME |
| 12:48.25 | foxlit | Then you'll thank me for saving you time spent not levelling to 80. |
| 12:49.03 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.sibfox.com/ |
| 12:49.25 | Jamash | d'awwwwww |
| 12:49.32 | Cairenn | ... tame foxes? o.O |
| 12:50.24 | Fisker | lol wat |
| 12:50.24 | foxlit | awwww! |
| 12:50.27 | Fisker | i got mangle in balance |
| 12:50.33 | Jamash | rad |
| 12:50.45 | Jamash | now, can you mangle in boomkin form? |
| 12:50.49 | foxlit | It's clearly telling you you're a fool for trying to level as balance and should immediately respec feral :) |
| 12:51.10 | Maldivia | well, druid talents are a bit of a mess right now :P |
| 12:51.22 | Maldivia | my resto druid has moonkin :P |
| 12:51.57 | |Jelly| | So I take it that Fisker is back to being happy? |
| 12:52.06 | Fisker | no boomkins Jamash |
| 12:52.10 | Fisker | foxlit i did choose feral |
| 12:52.47 | Jamash | download faster |
| 12:53.07 | Maldivia | Jamash: the servers are so unstable now, that you're not really missing anything :P |
| 12:53.21 | Fisker | omg server down Jamash |
| 12:53.33 | Mirrormn | all right, I got it to work, you just forgot to escape your backslashes with more backslashes |
| 12:53.51 | Fisker | omg server up Jamash |
| 12:54.36 | Mirrormn | whee, beta is all installed, and I get "Login Servers Busy" |
| 12:55.07 | mikma | foxlit: 26.8gb and going up :O |
| 12:55.37 | foxlit | Just six to go :/ |
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| 12:55.55 | mikma | meh, need to find out more space |
| 12:56.00 | Mirrormn | all told, it is 32.6gb without patches |
| 12:56.09 | mikma | with patches |
| 12:56.17 | Mirrormn | well |
| 12:56.19 | Mirrormn | patched |
| 12:56.26 | Mirrormn | but without patch files in the folder |
| 12:56.30 | Wobin | http://thedailywh.at/post/806937663/omg-adorbz-of-the-day-the-littlest-street |
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| 12:56.36 | Wobin | omg cutest chunli ever |
| 12:57.07 | Mirrormn | pedophile |
| 12:57.26 | Jamash | so why not hook MovieFrame_PlayMovie and filter on "name"? |
| 12:58.00 | Mirrormn | that barely seems different than hooking on to the event |
| 12:58.32 | foxlit | Fisker: http://www.dr.dk/Regioner/Kbh/Nyheder/Halsnaes/2010/07/14/104423.htm << I somehow feel you're responsible for this. |
| 12:58.38 | Kraps | the cloud cover is so heavy here that i'm waiting for an apocalyptic event |
| 12:58.43 | Jamash | I suppose |
| 12:59.24 | Fisker | omg server down |
| 12:59.29 | Mirrormn | and reassigning the function and keeping the old function and calling the old function would be more lines of code! |
| 12:59.31 | Wobin | Mirrormn: if that image makes you think of pedophiles, you have more to worry about than I do =P |
| 12:59.38 | Jamash | so fisker, how did you weasel a beta invite? |
| 12:59.43 | frontendloader | argh |
| 12:59.45 | Mirrormn | don't try to push this back on me! |
| 12:59.52 | Wobin | Mirrormn: why not? |
| 13:00.01 | Mirrormn | BECAUSE I CAN TYPE IN CAPS |
| 13:00.05 | Wobin | You just come out of the blue with a statement like "Pedophile" =P |
| 13:00.09 | Fisker | Jamash i had sex with your mother |
| 13:00.09 | Wobin | not even in context! |
| 13:00.11 | frontendloader | Collectinator keeps DCing me whenever I mouse over any really rare mounts like Invincible |
| 13:00.17 | Kraps | fisker got a beta invite?! |
| 13:00.20 | Jamash | classy |
| 13:00.21 | Wobin | http://i.imgur.com/gv5Pf.gif |
| 13:00.58 | Mirrormn | is Invincible in your server cache? |
| 13:01.22 | Fisker | lets just say that i woke up next to Jamash's mother and when i logged in i had a beta |
| 13:01.46 | Wobin | Jamash's mother is handing out beta invites? |
| 13:01.52 | Fisker | looks like it |
| 13:01.58 | Jamash | no, fisker is hallucinating |
| 13:02.05 | Jamash | he doesn't really have the beta |
| 13:02.06 | |Jelly| | Is his mother free? :( |
| 13:02.06 | Kraps | how do i contact her? |
| 13:02.43 | Mirrormn | she's not handing out beta keys, Fisker was just with her last night unrelatedly |
| 13:03.17 | |Jelly| | Oh |
| 13:03.22 | Fisker | that sucks Mirrormn |
| 13:03.23 | Jamash | go to http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Fisker and post a request and you will get a beta key slipped under your door in the middle of the night |
| 13:03.26 | |Jelly| | Well then, tell Blizzard to hand out 83 more keys. <3 |
| 13:04.12 | mikma | blizzard? |
| 13:04.38 | |Jelly| | Or WoWI. Whoever. |
| 13:06.09 | Fisker | rage |
| 13:06.10 | Fisker | raaaaage |
| 13:06.23 | Jamash | against the dying of the light |
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| 13:08.43 | Jamash|CAAAAAAKE | has ice cream cake. |
| 13:08.45 | Jelly|RAAAAAAGE | I sure could go for some carrot cake right now. |
| 13:11.54 | Mirrormn | whee, LKSquelch is a reality! |
| 13:12.05 | Jamash|CAAAAAAKE | can't you just hit ESC? |
| 13:12.21 | Mirrormn | not until after the movie is already started! |
| 13:12.24 | Jamash|CAAAAAAKE | ah |
| 13:13.04 | Mirrormn | Morkesh: do you want me to credit you in this addon, since you basically wrote it? |
| 13:14.36 | Mirrormn | I guess he left |
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| 13:18.37 | mikma | mirrormn: what does the addon do? |
| 13:19.58 | Mirrormn | the only thing it does |
| 13:20.07 | Mirrormn | is prevent the movie from playing after you kill the lich king |
| 13:20.23 | Mirrormn | it's tiny, but I think people want the functionality |
| 13:20.31 | Mirrormn | and you can't do it in a macro |
| 13:20.36 | Mirrormn | so *shrug* |
| 13:22.18 | Mirrormn | heh, it is 709 bytes |
| 13:22.58 | Mirrormn | that seems kind of large, really |
| 13:23.03 | Mirrormn | it's only like 250 characters |
| 13:32.20 | Sentri | hmh server still busy :( |
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| 13:36.34 | foxlit | gr, dislike alpha handling :( |
| 13:37.29 | foxlit | Would've been nice if frame:SetAlpha(0.5) meant "render this frame in a buffer, then merge that buffer onto the scene with 50% opacity" |
| 13:38.04 | foxlit | Unfortunately, it means "Render all children and regions of this frame with 50% opacity." |
| 13:40.24 | Fisker | anyone recall the party penalties for experience? |
| 13:41.20 | cbreak_work | penalties? |
| 13:41.24 | cbreak_work | don't you get a bonus? |
| 13:41.26 | Mirrormn | foxlit: how would that be different? |
| 13:42.38 | foxlit | cbreak: you're both right. |
| 13:43.04 | foxlit | There's an xp bonus associated with being in a party. Unfortunately, xp gains are split among party members. |
| 13:43.11 | Fisker | cbreak you get a penalty of 50% with 2 players, after that it decreases the penalty |
| 13:43.15 | Fisker | oh |
| 13:43.16 | Fisker | :o |
| 13:43.28 | Fisker | xp bonus then :P |
| 13:43.37 | foxlit | Mirrormn: exercise for the reader, that :) |
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| 13:44.17 | Mirrormn | except the way you said it was pretty ambiguous |
| 13:44.32 | Mirrormn | which was why I asked what you thought it would mean |
| 13:46.31 | foxlit | Nah, seems clear enough for me. Then again, there's a bias there. |
| 13:47.55 | Mirrormn | well, how bout we assume I have no idea what we're talking about (which might be true anyway) and you explain it |
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| 13:49.53 | Morkesh | if possible Mirrormn :P |
| 13:50.11 | Morkesh | sorry, had to walk a friends dog |
| 13:50.22 | Manterfel | Good morning :) Folks still getting "login server is busy" errors? I couldn't find any blue posts on the matter (only checked Blizzard forums and asked a guildie who's in alpha/beta) and got that message all last night and this morning before work |
| 13:51.14 | Manterfel | this was on the cataclysm beta, since i left that out |
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| 13:51.34 | Lopeppeppy | Other people are saying that the beta is very unstable this morning, Manterfel. |
| 13:52.30 | Manterfel | I've seen other users post about getting that error on the blizz forums, but didn't notice any common details. I'll probably just sit tight and hope it's cleared up in time for the weekend |
| 13:52.47 | Morkesh | foxlit: LOL! just saw the emu article |
| 13:56.36 | Fisker | LOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 13:57.01 | Mirrormn | cuts Fisker's LOOOOOOOOOOOOL in half |
| 13:57.15 | Sesshu | oh can i get one half? |
| 13:57.20 | Mirrormn | no |
| 13:57.23 | Sesshu | :( |
| 13:57.23 | Mirrormn | I threw it away |
| 13:57.36 | Mirrormn | I threw it in the garbage |
| 13:57.44 | Fisker | LOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 13:57.46 | batrick | you forgot fisker |
| 13:58.14 | Mirrormn | no no no, I cut it hotdog-style |
| 13:58.20 | Mirrormn | not hamburger |
| 13:58.55 | Mirrormn | so now you just said "∟uuuuuuuuu∟" |
| 13:59.31 | Fisker | y r thou so mad? |
| 13:59.56 | Mirrormn | I'M NOT MAD |
| 13:59.57 | Mirrormn | FUCK YOU |
| 14:00.01 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 14:00.29 | mikma | omg, you have been fiskered |
| 14:00.34 | Mirrormn | I'm mad cause a) cata won't let me log in, and b) I stayed up so late that now there's no time for me to go to sleep |
| 14:00.52 | Morkesh | Mirrormn where did you upload it? :P |
| 14:00.58 | Mirrormn | it's on curseforge |
| 14:01.03 | Morkesh | arh |
| 14:01.31 | Mirrormn | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/lksquelch/ |
| 14:02.24 | Mirrormn | it's just the script with the name argument fixed, and a print message to tell you when it squelches a video |
| 14:02.38 | Morkesh | arh :) |
| 14:02.58 | Morkesh | one thing is certain, i'm dowloading it :P |
| 14:03.00 | Mirrormn | like I said earlier, it's a tiny addon, but I think there is demand for it |
| 14:03.08 | Mirrormn | yeah, I'm running it |
| 14:03.09 | Sentri | there must be |
| 14:03.13 | Mirrormn | that video is annoying |
| 14:03.15 | Sentri | I'll download it too |
| 14:03.24 | Morkesh | indeed |
| 14:03.47 | Morkesh | i was too lazy to make a seperate folder before so instead i just threw it all at the top of my toastmaster addon :P |
| 14:03.59 | Mirrormn | yah |
| 14:04.02 | Mirrormn | speaking of which |
| 14:05.08 | Mirrormn | I've been planning for a couple days an addon which basically allows you to hook scripts in to whatever events you want, and keeps track of them for you in a nice little interface |
| 14:05.41 | mikma | have anyone of you been able to copy a character? :O |
| 14:05.54 | Sentri | I did copy one yesterday |
| 14:06.03 | Mirrormn | I'll try it right now |
| 14:06.06 | mikma | i tried doing the same yesterday and again today |
| 14:06.07 | Mirrormn | see if I won't! |
| 14:06.18 | mikma | always keeps saying "you need to wait for the previous copy to complete" |
| 14:06.19 | Sentri | I can even select it from the beta forums to post with it |
| 14:06.22 | airtonix | fisker |
| 14:06.23 | mikma | and there ain't a previous copy :D |
| 14:06.49 | Morkesh | would be very nifty for addon development Mirrormn :p |
| 14:06.50 | Morkesh | r |
| 14:06.53 | airtonix | fisker, if indian person is asking you if your goat is robots ... what are they trying to say ? |
| 14:06.56 | Morkesh | misstype -.- |
| 14:08.08 | Mirrormn | they're trying to say they want to touch you in a naughty place |
| 14:08.13 | Mirrormn | but for your own safety, not for their pleasure |
| 14:08.34 | Mirrormn | so you'd better listen |
| 14:08.34 | ScytheBlade1 | so, my company is likely sending me to New York for a week, but up to three weeks |
| 14:08.54 | ScytheBlade1 | problem: starting on the 26th.. one day before SC2... |
| 14:08.58 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 14:09.00 | cog|sleep | >< |
| 14:09.07 | cog|sleep | don't they have SC2 in NY? ;) |
| 14:09.12 | Mirrormn | you know, Morkesh |
| 14:09.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't have a suitable laptop |
| 14:09.28 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, question : |
| 14:09.37 | Mirrormn | I've actually become convinced that foxlit's way is a better way to accomplish this addon |
| 14:09.40 | airtonix | and serious question to all those creaming over sc2 |
| 14:09.41 | Mirrormn | I'm going to recode it! |
| 14:10.00 | airtonix | if you can't wait for sc2, does this you play sc1 every single day ? |
| 14:10.00 | Morkesh | which one? |
| 14:10.04 | airtonix | mean * |
| 14:10.12 | Morkesh | the movieframe_playmovie = somethingican'tremember |
| 14:10.17 | airtonix | and if you miss sc2, just play sc1 |
| 14:10.18 | ScytheBlade1 | I do on a semi-often basis |
| 14:10.31 | airtonix | i dont see any difference except sc2 is 3d |
| 14:10.51 | airtonix | looks like the same kind of game that i would get bored of after one hour |
| 14:10.54 | Mirrormn | yeah |
| 14:10.57 | ScytheBlade1 | oh it is vastly different |
| 14:11.01 | mikma | "Please allow the copy process to finish before logging into the beta test realms. Check below for the average wait times. " |
| 14:11.05 | Mirrormn | well actually |
| 14:11.28 | Mirrormn | I might just use SetScript instead of HookScript |
| 14:11.41 | airtonix | ScytheBlade1, you mean vastly different like command and conquer : generals is vastly different from command and conqouer 1 ? |
| 14:11.57 | Morkesh | aye Mirrormn, was a quick oneliner before more or less :p sure there's a better way if you put thought into it |
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| 14:12.24 | Mirrormn | well the problem is that stopping the movie once it's started makes your interface do a hiccup |
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| 14:13.07 | ScytheBlade1 | airtonix: controls are improved. editor/modding ability isn't even close. |
| 14:13.30 | airtonix | so not that different really |
| 14:13.52 | airtonix | i mean you still build units |
| 14:13.58 | airtonix | you still farm resources |
| 14:14.25 | airtonix | from what i can see its just looks more modern |
| 14:15.05 | airtonix | the gameplay isn't fundamentally different ? |
| 14:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I would agree that *you* would get bored with it, I can tell |
| 14:15.22 | Mirrormn | oh jeez |
| 14:15.30 | Mirrormn | doing it that way disabled my cursor somehow |
| 14:15.30 | airtonix | i get bored with the first one fairly quickly |
| 14:18.34 | Shirik | ........ |
| 14:18.37 | Shirik | "A pizza of radius z and thickness a has a volume of pi*z*z*a" |
| 14:18.53 | airtonix | :) |
| 14:18.58 | airtonix | italian maths |
| 14:19.42 | Mirrormn | Shirik: but what if you put pepperonis on it =/ |
| 14:20.01 | mikma | yeah, login server is currently busy. whoopdidoo |
| 14:20.13 | Sentri | yeah :/ |
| 14:20.15 | Mirrormn | actually I guess in that case it would just be pi*z*z*a + pepperonis |
| 14:20.20 | Mirrormn | so it still works! |
| 14:20.37 | Morkesh | aye Mirrormn, as i said before, ran into alot of strange behavior with the movieframe |
| 14:20.52 | Morkesh | at a point, if i had the code enabled, i couldn't control my character at all |
| 14:21.12 | Morkesh | he'd stand static on the ground and i could turn him with the mouse and cast spells, but WASD did nothing, nor did mousemoving |
| 14:21.18 | Mirrormn | I think it premptively disables your cursor and pokes your interface |
| 14:21.31 | Mirrormn | and you have to call GameMovieFinished() to get it back to normal |
| 14:21.45 | Fisker | GameMovieICame() |
| 14:21.49 | Mirrormn | so either way you do it, the interface hiccups |
| 14:22.03 | Mirrormn | and I don't know how to fix that or if it's even possible |
| 14:22.07 | Mirrormn | so no update |
| 14:22.08 | Shirik | haha |
| 14:22.10 | Shirik | [jwales] What good is having a war mongering President if we can't invade Estonia to kill spammers? I AM JOKING DO NOT QUOTE ME ON THAT. :-) |
| 14:22.30 | Fisker | you are a classless jerk Shirik |
| 14:22.41 | Shirik | I disagree old chap |
| 14:22.50 | Fisker | I disagree, jerk |
| 14:23.15 | Shirik | Oh Reginald! I DISAGREE! |
| 14:23.16 | Morkesh | Mirrormn: to be honest, rather have my interface do a hiccup than having to see that damn movie again :P |
| 14:23.35 | Fisker | i'm bored Shirik |
| 14:23.38 | Fisker | how to fix |
| 14:23.53 | airtonix | hard drugs |
| 14:24.05 | Mirrormn | and soft pillows |
| 14:24.20 | Mirrormn | Morkesh: agreed |
| 14:24.48 | Jerub | it's 20 past 12 |
| 14:24.57 | Jerub | do i go do voa on my other toons or go to bed? |
| 14:25.03 | Morkesh | hmm, any smart way to get the total number of buttons in the BuffFrame? |
| 14:25.40 | Morkesh | BUFF_ACTUAL_DISPLAY seems to return the number to some extend but i wonder if it counts temporary enchants aswell |
| 14:25.55 | Mirrormn | for i,v in pairs({BuffFrame:GetChildren()})? |
| 14:26.07 | Ackis | Fisker: all we are is dust in the wind! |
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| 14:26.54 | Mirrormn | local num = 0; for i,v in pairs({BuffFrame:GetChildren()}) do num = num + 1 end; |
| 14:26.59 | Mirrormn | works for me |
| 14:27.54 | Fisker | Ackis is a california "gurl" |
| 14:28.09 | Fisker | also pwnt |
| 14:28.24 | Morkesh | doesn't count temp enchants Mirrormn :( |
| 14:28.55 | mikma | --- public-beta.logon.battle.net ping statistics --- |
| 14:28.55 | mikma | 10 packets transmitted, 0 received, +7 errors, 100% packet loss, time 9001ms |
| 14:28.57 | mikma | woof |
| 14:29.27 | Sentri | some blue said they've blocked ping/tracert iirc |
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| 14:30.51 | DWSR | Is anyone else here extremely underwhelmed and disappointed by how badly the 31 point trees turned out? |
| 14:31.01 | DWSR | (caveat: I realize that they're not finalized). |
| 14:31.03 | mikma | nope |
| 14:31.26 | Mirrormn | man I wish I could log on to be dissapointed by the talent trees |
| 14:31.35 | Lopeppeppy | I think I'm going to be very happy about the trees. |
| 14:31.37 | DWSR | Mirrormn: wowtal.com |
| 14:31.41 | alestane | So far, so good, I thought. |
| 14:31.52 | DWSR | alestane: I was looking at the lock and DK trees. |
| 14:31.54 | mikma | lopeppeppy: lotsa easier to build up |
| 14:32.03 | DWSR | The affliction lock tree is just talent dumping up to the 31er. |
| 14:32.06 | DWSR | Literally. |
| 14:32.08 | alestane | Well, 'lock is very underdone ATM. |
| 14:32.30 | Lopeppeppy | I do read that the paladin trees might yet see tweaking too. I'm not worried yet. |
| 14:32.36 | DWSR | http://www.wowtal.com/#k=.9mn.warlock <-- like wtf? |
| 14:32.42 | Shirik | I think I could make a website out of the emails I receive from unblock-en-l@lists.wikimedia.org |
| 14:32.45 | alestane | Most of them are severely incomplete, Peppy. |
| 14:32.48 | cbreak_work | I am quite sure every tree will change |
| 14:33.04 | Shirik | Today's winner of most direct award: "I Can't Edit" |
| 14:33.08 | Shirik | ^ entire contents of the email |
| 14:33.26 | Shirik | I'm tempted to respond with "Yes" |
| 14:33.28 | Shirik | but I won't |
| 14:33.39 | DWSR | cbreak: Yeah, and I realize that, however, I was expecting there to be a little more polish when they said they were going to reveal the whole enchilada. |
| 14:33.48 | DWSR | Shirik: You should respond with: Working as Intended. |
| 14:34.12 | Mirrormn | oh wow |
| 14:34.15 | DWSR | Or: wontfix |
| 14:34.28 | Mirrormn | they changed combustion to the crazy idea that I came up with for it but then never told anyone about at all |
| 14:34.38 | Mirrormn | that's freakishly coincidental |
| 14:35.10 | Archarodim | or "fortunately" |
| 14:35.52 | DWSR | I started IT spamming last night for threat for BQL. |
| 14:35.58 | DWSR | LOLRUS it's so easy for threat. |
| 14:36.05 | cbreak_work | my personal guess is still: Release of Cataclysm end of november |
| 14:36.17 | cbreak_work | so lots of time left |
| 14:36.19 | DWSR | I'm guessing before BlizzCon |
| 14:36.26 | cbreak_work | when is blizzcon? |
| 14:36.32 | Morkesh | so these new paladin talents makes me cry |
| 14:36.33 | DWSR | Oct. 26ish, I think? |
| 14:36.45 | alestane | That would be right after BlizzCon. |
| 14:36.56 | cbreak_work | I haven't logged into beta in some time, but last I did, it wasn't even close to ready |
| 14:37.05 | Morkesh | for one, it's getting annoying real that i'll need to find spirit and also, it seems to be holy shock, fol and crit everywhere |
| 14:37.08 | cbreak_work | lots of textures and models missing, many quests unfinished |
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| 14:37.25 | alestane | Paladin is so far behind in terms of redoing that they've specifically stated it just for that class, Morkesh. |
| 14:37.28 | Morkesh | arh |
| 14:37.28 | nicoli_s | it just feels off |
| 14:37.39 | Morkesh | still alestane, new divine illumination is queer |
| 14:37.49 | Morkesh | 30% increased crit -.- |
| 14:38.11 | alestane | So they're trying something different. Plenty of time for them to determine whether it's awesome or made of fail. |
| 14:38.17 | alestane | Give them feedback. |
| 14:38.21 | Morkesh | i should |
| 14:38.25 | Morkesh | when i get on |
| 14:38.42 | Lopeppeppy | mmm, crit. |
| 14:39.26 | Lopeppeppy | But yes, they will need tons of feedback. They keep wanting to give us more tools for healing, and not quite getting there. |
| 14:40.05 | Ackis | remove healing all together |
| 14:40.12 | alestane | I am relieved that at least at the moment, they only require 31 points in a tree to move on, not the 31 point talent. |
| 14:40.12 | Morkesh | i like my HL spamming as it is Lopeppeppy :P |
| 14:40.19 | Morkesh | having a hard time forcing my cohealer to realize that sp & crit == overhealing |
| 14:40.39 | Mirrormn | erm |
| 14:40.46 | Mirrormn | sp and crit for HL |
| 14:40.50 | Mirrormn | = crucial for HLK |
| 14:40.58 | Mirrormn | when your tank is getting hit for 40k a swing... |
| 14:41.20 | DWSR | http://www.blizzard.com/blizzcon/extra/failoc.xml |
| 14:41.31 | Morkesh | haven't been my experience Mirrormn |
| 14:42.02 | Morkesh | left my former guild when we got to p3 on him and frankly i always found mana to be the issue, never numbers |
| 14:42.02 | Mirrormn | well, my experience has been main tank dying because holy paladin spent 0.2 second repositioning |
| 14:42.55 | DWSR | Squishy tank, imo. |
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| 14:44.12 | DWSR | I take LK for walks around Frostmourne. |
| 14:44.18 | DWSR | My healer's all like RANGE n shit. |
| 14:44.22 | DWSR | And yeah, I don't die. |
| 14:44.37 | Morkesh | gotta agree :P |
| 14:44.47 | Morkesh | a matter of tanks not spending 5 seconds to notice they'r dying |
| 14:45.03 | Morkesh | and or healers moving when it's wise, not when soulreaper just hit |
| 14:45.11 | DWSR | lolreaper. |
| 14:45.14 | DWSR | I call that shit free RP. |
| 14:45.23 | DWSR | AMS baby. |
| 14:45.28 | DWSR | I solo tank LK. |
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| 14:46.32 | alestane | HS friend of mine says: |
| 14:46.33 | alestane | "Trying an experiment: Cherry infused espresso. It might be horrible, but it may also be very yummy. |
| 14:46.33 | alestane | "Verdict, served over ice with a twist of lemon, it's damn good." |
| 14:47.21 | Cloudwolf | Sounds strange alestane |
| 14:48.45 | Mirrormn | whoo, LKSquelch is teh approved! |
| 14:48.50 | Mirrormn | now I sleep |
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| 14:51.09 | Cloudwolf | i wish i could sleep D: i just had a realy bad nights sleep |
| 14:51.26 | Mirrormn | I had a full night of not sleeping |
| 14:51.38 | Mirrormn | so now the plan is more to pass out in exhaustion than anything else |
| 14:51.46 | Ackis | I fell asleep on the couch last night in the middle of playing the xbox, I paused the game, slept for 20 minutes, woke up and resumed playing... fiancée was really amused |
| 14:51.52 | DWSR | I is an insomniac. |
| 14:51.56 | Cloudwolf | I had a half night of partial sleeping, acid, too hot, too cold, toss turn pain yeah that wasn't fun >.> and it doesn't help that i have a raid today |
| 14:52.10 | Mirrormn | I have |
| 14:52.15 | Mirrormn | HLK attempt tonight -.- |
| 14:52.25 | Mirrormn | another 4 hours of wiping to defile, fun |
| 14:52.48 | Mirrormn | actually I think we might finally be starting to get the hang of it |
| 14:53.11 | Cloudwolf | mines just a progression 10 man icc |
| 14:53.13 | malreth | Ackis: GET A JOB YOU HOBO HIPPY |
| 14:53.18 | Cloudwolf | we can down putricide |
| 14:53.24 | Cloudwolf | after that we need practice |
| 14:53.34 | Mirrormn | well, one thing I have learned recently |
| 14:53.39 | Cloudwolf | dreamwalker is hard for us heh >.> |
| 14:53.56 | Mirrormn | is that everyone's progression, even if on widely different levels, is always hindered by the same problems |
| 14:54.18 | Mirrormn | person a can't do the fight mechanic, person b can but didn't log on, etc. |
| 14:54.25 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 14:54.59 | Cloudwolf | we do an ok job of getting the same people from week to week but yeah we have had that happen but most of us have to learn it |
| 14:55.19 | Mirrormn | I used to be in a guild that couldn't kill sindragosa 25m, now I'm in a 11/12 HM 25 guild, but it's the same bullshit, really, when you get down to it :D |
| 14:55.26 | Mirrormn | just better loot |
| 14:55.47 | Cloudwolf | :P |
| 14:56.25 | Cloudwolf | its amusing that my icc run isn't even in my guild i was lucky to find a pug that didn't totaly suck and was willing to keep me on lol |
| 14:56.39 | Mirrormn | that's pretty fortunate |
| 14:56.42 | Cloudwolf | also helps being the only rogue in the group + the only other leather wearers are boomkins and bear tanks |
| 14:57.02 | Mirrormn | I wish WoW was better about letting random groups of people form and persist |
| 14:57.05 | Cloudwolf | >.> our bear tank is vering on 90k hp witht he icc buff lol |
| 14:57.14 | Cloudwolf | *verging |
| 14:57.38 | Mirrormn | the instance save thing makes it difficult to not lock in to the guild-only paradigm with raiding |
| 14:57.59 | Cloudwolf | i feel like ima about to pass out on my desk but i know i probably can't sleap |
| 14:58.12 | Mirrormn | yarp |
| 14:58.24 | Cloudwolf | in cata didn't they say that you can split a raid? |
| 14:58.33 | Mirrormn | yeah |
| 14:58.38 | Mirrormn | split a 25m into 3 10mans |
| 14:58.51 | Cloudwolf | heh interesting wierd but interesting |
| 14:58.56 | Mirrormn | there was also some stuff about being able to join raids you're saved to as long as they're farther along than you, or something |
| 14:59.18 | Sentri | login servers still "busy" ? |
| 14:59.40 | Cloudwolf | don't know don't have beta yet *hint hint* nah jk |
| 14:59.40 | Lopeppeppy | Many people are saying that the beta is wonky today, yes. |
| 15:00.07 | Cloudwolf | mirrormn i'm not sure i like that 10 man has the same loot as 25 man in cata |
| 15:00.20 | Cloudwolf | seems like 10 man is the better choice even though 25 man drops more per boss |
| 15:00.22 | Mirrormn | Sentri: mine is |
| 15:00.47 | Morkesh | gah :( |
| 15:00.52 | Morkesh | wish they'd fix it |
| 15:00.58 | Morkesh | i wanna try cata more and more as the minutes pass |
| 15:01.38 | Maldivia | well, the servers haven't really been stable at all since they came up after the patch :P |
| 15:01.52 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 15:02.15 | Sentri | I prefer "unstable" over "not being able to login" ;P |
| 15:02.30 | Cloudwolf | "Hey guys were gonna add a ton of content in this beta patch but btw chances are itll take us a week to fix the problems that arise" |
| 15:02.35 | Mirrormn | is there an accounttype setting I can put in my config.wtf to be able to see the cata login screen, at least? |
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| 15:03.52 | Lopeppeppy | There are screenshots of it out there, Mirrormn. |
| 15:04.58 | Morkesh | where? |
| 15:05.14 | Lopeppeppy | Google baby! |
| 15:05.19 | Mirrormn | screenshots will not satisfy me! |
| 15:05.31 | Mirrormn | I want the config.wtf setting! |
| 15:05.52 | cbreak_work | the cata login screen looked like that of TBC last time I checked |
| 15:05.56 | Morkesh | on it Lopeppeppy :P all i found was a worgen creation screen so far |
| 15:06.09 | Morkesh | http://tweakers.net/ext/f/n5az1RGghzRvBSJfLBP2U8Dt/full.jpg there |
| 15:06.09 | Cloudwolf | i hope they don't do the frostwrym thing agian |
| 15:06.21 | Cloudwolf | the frostwrym is annnoying and actualy causes my computer to lag a little D: |
| 15:06.22 | cbreak_work | it'll maybe be deathwing or something |
| 15:06.46 | Cloudwolf | lord.... |
| 15:06.49 | Cloudwolf | please dont roar deathwing |
| 15:06.59 | Maldivia | Morkesh: Copyritght 204-2009 -- nice :) |
| 15:07.00 | cbreak_work | it's not as bad as SC3 |
| 15:07.07 | cbreak_work | SC2 actually lags my whole GUI |
| 15:07.25 | cbreak_work | even with VSync enabled |
| 15:07.43 | Cloudwolf | cbreak this is waht happens for me. wc3 i can have 300 units on the map and not lag SC2 i get 50 units on the map and im going BLARGH 100 units ont he map in sc2 gl playing for me |
| 15:07.45 | cbreak_work | (and strangely enough, it's in-game performance is terrible too since last patch... for all but the first game) |
| 15:07.50 | Maldivia | Morkesh: not to mention, build 14142 at Dec 9 2009 :) |
| 15:08.07 | Cloudwolf | even on like the lowest settings |
| 15:08.14 | cbreak_work | oh my, have you looked at them? |
| 15:08.23 | cbreak_work | SC2 on lowest settings is uglier than SC1 |
| 15:08.24 | Morkesh | blasted :P i checked the thread where the "screenshot" was, and looks like a scam attempt yeah |
| 15:08.29 | Cloudwolf | i seriously need 1) a form of income 2) a new computer |
| 15:08.31 | Morkesh | then find it for me Lopeppeppy! :( |
| 15:08.33 | nicoli_s | sc2 works great for me |
| 15:08.40 | Morkesh | Cloudwolf: come to Denmark |
| 15:08.48 | Morkesh | goverment supplies income, income buys computer |
| 15:08.52 | cbreak_work | I have a fast computer, but I think blizz's OpenGL code is not optimized/good |
| 15:08.54 | Lopeppeppy | I does not help the lazies, Morkesh! 'sides, I'm at work. |
| 15:08.59 | cbreak_work | there's probably a resource leak somewhere |
| 15:09.06 | Cloudwolf | lol morkesh doesn't help that itw ould cost me more to move to denmark than itw oudl to build a new computer. |
| 15:09.10 | Arrowmaster | wow the movie i just watched was a hell of a lot better than i was expecting |
| 15:09.24 | Mirrormn | hot tub time machine? |
| 15:09.38 | Arrowmaster | no but that movie was awesome too |
| 15:09.45 | Maldivia | sex and the city 2? :) |
| 15:09.51 | Arrowmaster | just watched the runaways |
| 15:10.01 | Morkesh | well Cloudwolf :P it's summer |
| 15:10.19 | Morkesh | so hike a boatride |
| 15:10.22 | Cloudwolf | Does that mean something? :P |
| 15:10.28 | Cloudwolf | Lol nah i'll pass |
| 15:10.33 | Morkesh | sneak onboard of containership, end in denmark, profit |
| 15:10.46 | Morkesh | or end in asia, fail |
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| 15:11.02 | Cloudwolf | Mom who isn't uptight about money = new computer which is enough profit for me. |
| 15:11.15 | Cloudwolf | morkesh i can picture that being a choose your own adventure book. |
| 15:11.25 | Morkesh | hahaha :D |
| 15:11.28 | Morkesh | very much so! |
| 15:12.11 | Cloudwolf | "You come across 2 cargo containers one blue one red which do you pick." "I pick blue turn to page 105" "You stow away in the container only to find out you arrived in china. You are captured and shot on sight by chinese police your story ends" |
| 15:12.31 | cbreak_work | that's unrealistic |
| 15:12.35 | Cloudwolf | I know cbreak :P |
| 15:12.44 | cbreak_work | it would not end before your family is billed the bullet that killed you. |
| 15:12.51 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 15:14.05 | cog|work | HAI GUIS WUTS GOIN AN IN HEER? |
| 15:14.21 | Cloudwolf | being tired and talking |
| 15:14.23 | Morkesh | "I pick red turn to page 70" "You stow away in the container and find out you arrived in Denmark. You are caught by the Danish immigration officers and offered a temporary visa turn to page 30" "You'r temporary visa expires, you are unable to get a permanet one or a work permit, you'r sent back to America, your story ends" |
| 15:14.42 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cogwheel. G' morning. |
| 15:14.51 | cog|work | ~hug Lopeppeppy |
| 15:14.52 | purl | ACTION gets a running start and tackle-hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 15:14.57 | airtonix | "upon returning to america you are pulled over to the side and strip searched" |
| 15:15.09 | cog|work | rawr? |
| 15:15.21 | cbreak_work | after getting tazered |
| 15:15.26 | Morkesh | hahaha :D |
| 15:15.28 | airtonix | "the customs officer find 30kgs of herion in condoms concealed in your lower intestines" |
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| 15:15.42 | cbreak_work | then you get tazered again |
| 15:15.49 | airtonix | and the condoms break |
| 15:15.54 | Morkesh | doubt it, probably more expensive in Denmark than in the US :( |
| 15:16.23 | Morkesh | seeing how we're a small filthy rich country with near 50% tax and 25% VAT |
| 15:16.30 | Mirrormn | my attempts at guessing the correct config.wtf setting to give me the cata login screen are proving futile |
| 15:16.39 | Mirrormn | =/ |
| 15:16.39 | airtonix | logic is not part of this discussion, please leave |
| 15:16.44 | Morkesh | haha :P |
| 15:16.55 | Ressy | o.O |
| 15:16.55 | Morkesh | i will, soon, just gotta figure out what to have for dinner |
| 15:17.48 | airtonix | sweet dreams sailor |
| 15:18.18 | Morkesh | wtb suggestions :( |
| 15:18.32 | airtonix | ok |
| 15:18.39 | airtonix | in fridge you have ? |
| 15:18.46 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 15:18.58 | airtonix | Hello fisker |
| 15:19.11 | Morkesh | hmm |
| 15:19.18 | airtonix | red beans ? |
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| 15:19.30 | airtonix | parsley ? |
| 15:19.37 | Morkesh | salmon, fries, brown rice, mussels, 2 eggs |
| 15:19.42 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.myfridgefood.com/ |
| 15:19.45 | Cloudwolf | morkesh add -tools ? |
| 15:19.45 | Fisker | hello airtonix |
| 15:19.51 | airtonix | what are "fries" |
| 15:19.55 | Morkesh | Cloudwolf? :P |
| 15:19.59 | harl | hi |
| 15:20.01 | Cloudwolf | i dunno lol |
| 15:20.06 | Lopeppeppy | airtonix, french fries most likely |
| 15:20.07 | Morkesh | airtonix: french fries |
| 15:20.17 | airtonix | any butter ? |
| 15:20.25 | Morkesh | some |
| 15:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | I'd be having broiled salmon over rice. |
| 15:20.35 | airtonix | yes |
| 15:20.43 | Morkesh | with what? :/ lacks a sauce of sorts |
| 15:20.51 | airtonix | garlic |
| 15:20.59 | Morkesh | oooh yeah |
| 15:20.59 | Lopeppeppy | Butter, parsley, garlic, rosemary. |
| 15:21.03 | Morkesh | got garlic & shallots |
| 15:21.08 | airtonix | gogogo |
| 15:21.10 | Morkesh | no parsley or rosemary |
| 15:21.11 | Lopeppeppy | Then you very have dinner. |
| 15:21.23 | airtonix | brown rice takes a while to cook ? |
| 15:21.28 | Morkesh | 30 minutes or so |
| 15:21.35 | malreth | airtonix: racist! |
| 15:21.42 | airtonix | i prefer basmatti |
| 15:21.48 | harl | *yawn* |
| 15:22.12 | Morkesh | airtonix: myeah, i like whole grain |
| 15:22.25 | Morkesh | basmati or jasmin are perfect for quick meals though |
| 15:23.21 | Fisker | you are extraordinarily racist airtonix |
| 15:23.33 | airtonix | i wont deny it |
| 15:24.02 | airtonix | The Fiskinarians are a race i can not hold my distrust of. |
| 15:24.56 | Wobin | I actually mix brown and white rice together |
| 15:25.06 | airtonix | kinky |
| 15:25.18 | airtonix | 1 wobin, two grains |
| 15:25.23 | Fisker | indeed airtonix |
| 15:25.25 | Wobin | nom |
| 15:25.37 | airtonix | or is that two grains, one wobin |
| 15:26.32 | airtonix | oh |
| 15:26.40 | airtonix | i don't think i've seen this movie |
| 15:31.02 | Cloudwolf | what movie? |
| 15:31.08 | Cloudwolf | also dispicable me was a good movie |
| 15:32.16 | Morkesh | Wobin: so what, you boil them seperate and mix them? |
| 15:33.10 | Cloudwolf | that makes me think of the sound you get when you stir shell noodles |
| 15:33.20 | airtonix | dreamcatcher |
| 15:33.21 | Cloudwolf | pop pop crickle crinkle pop pop |
| 15:34.08 | mikma | login server working yet? |
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| 15:35.02 | Fisker | what does it matter? |
| 15:35.08 | Fisker | the server is crashing ever 30 seconds or so |
| 15:35.34 | mikma | thats cause its anti-fisker protection kicking in |
| 15:36.06 | airtonix | His brother is the sysadmin |
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| 15:38.39 | Morkesh | still busy for me mikma |
| 15:39.29 | cralor | >:( |
| 15:39.52 | Wobin | nah |
| 15:39.55 | Wobin | boil them together |
| 15:40.00 | Wobin | rice cooker ftw |
| 15:40.22 | mikma | a cattle? |
| 15:40.27 | Morkesh | how would a rice cooker make brown rice done faster without making the basmati completely ruined? :P |
| 15:40.30 | Kyahx | mikma! |
| 15:40.36 | Wobin | Morkesh: Magic |
| 15:40.39 | Morkesh | :o |
| 15:40.40 | mikma | kyahx! |
| 15:40.47 | Kyahx | I just came to poke at you |
| 15:40.47 | Wobin | I know not, it works out fine for me =) |
| 15:40.52 | Wobin | omg Kyahx |
| 15:41.00 | Kyahx | I released something! |
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| 15:41.06 | Wobin | hax |
| 15:41.10 | Kyahx | lol |
| 15:41.14 | mikma | kyahx: thats way too cool, i think imma gona esplode |
| 15:41.42 | Wobin | pity I keep getting the 'login server down' error |
| 15:41.50 | Wobin | else I'd be extolling the beta =( |
| 15:43.27 | Morkesh | Kyahx: someone's complaining in comments about it not working :( but looks very cool |
| 15:43.35 | Kyahx | Those are old comments |
| 15:43.38 | Kyahx | from 2.x version |
| 15:46.02 | Morkesh | arh :) |
| 15:46.16 | Kyahx | I didnt relaize I can delete them -- there we go, clean slate. |
| 15:46.54 | mikma | kyahx: whatcha release? |
| 15:47.16 | Kyahx | macro-based paging for blizzard bar |
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| 15:47.40 | mikma | whats the use of that? |
| 15:48.32 | Kyahx | I dont have to use seomthing like Dominoes just for shift / alt / ctrl paging :) |
| 15:48.50 | mikma | ohkay |
| 15:48.54 | Fisker | What drugs are you on? |
| 15:48.57 | Fisker | because do share |
| 15:48.58 | Fisker | :o |
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| 15:50.07 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:50.15 | mikma | gas |
| 15:50.54 | Fisker | busstop |
| 15:51.06 | cog|work | street corner |
| 15:51.37 | Cairenn | train |
| 15:51.37 | Lunessa | hooks securely? |
| 15:52.00 | cog|work | ~Lunessa++ |
| 15:52.35 | Maldivia | wagon |
| 15:52.57 | durcyn | Niv: any word? |
| 15:54.41 | ScytheBlade1 | ~train |
| 15:55.10 | nicoli_s | wow, lotro getting ui modding now too |
| 15:55.52 | Cairenn | yes .... |
| 15:56.00 | Cairenn | old news ;) |
| 15:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | old news is good news, yay for no surprises. |
| 15:56.35 | nicoli_s | its not old news if i just read it 30 second ago :P |
| 15:56.36 | Cairenn | true enough |
| 15:56.55 | Fisker | i hate people who just go like "old news" everytime someone posts something |
| 15:57.01 | Cairenn | (to Lopeppeppy's comment) |
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| 15:57.42 | Cairenn | Fisker: I'm allowed to tease nicoli_s, he returns the favour often enough ;) |
| 15:57.51 | nicoli_s | tis true |
| 16:00.41 | nevcairiel | Just because you read something just now doesnt mean its new, however |
| 16:01.21 | Niv | durcyn: still boned |
| 16:01.29 | Niv | no blue responses either |
| 16:03.56 | ccox | I think Cairenn has license to tease most of us, actually |
| 16:04.04 | Cairenn | believe it! |
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| 16:05.22 | Jelly|SadPanda | <-- just saying, Cairenn |
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| 16:05.45 | Cairenn | Jelly|SadPanda: ? |
| 16:06.01 | Cloudwolf | cairenn has the beta keys she can tease all she wants lol |
| 16:06.04 | Jelly|SadPanda | Friday is too long! |
| 16:06.08 | Cairenn | ahhhh |
| 16:06.10 | Cairenn | sowwy |
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| 16:06.17 | cralor | Niv: datth is replying to some now. quickly, bump the post! :D |
| 16:06.25 | Jelly|SadPanda | It's ok -- I still luff you. |
| 16:06.47 | nevcairiel | If one thing you should've learned by now, fishing for attention with blues isnt the best way :d |
| 16:07.26 | Niv | cralor: it's only one below! |
| 16:07.36 | Jelly|SadPanda | Wait.What? |
| 16:08.00 | Cloudwolf | awww friday is so long away oh well darn you blizzard :D |
| 16:08.02 | Maldivia | If you play nice, I'll share my bone with you... |
| 16:08.06 | Wobin | nicoli_s: link? |
| 16:08.14 | Niv | I'm not too worried |
| 16:08.26 | Niv | if you read the posts, it sounds like the servers are totally unstable |
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| 16:08.35 | nicoli_s | Wobin:its on massively.com |
| 16:08.36 | Niv | I'm guessing they are focused on that first |
| 16:08.37 | Cloudwolf | yeah |
| 16:08.45 | Cloudwolf | but doesn't mean i don't want to download the stuff first |
| 16:08.54 | nicoli_s | i miss the days of working on a lotro DB site |
| 16:08.55 | Cloudwolf | instead of waiting till friday when its stable to waste 3 hours dling patches :D |
| 16:09.03 | nevcairiel | If you complain about unstable servers in the beta, you have never been in one, and should never be again :P |
| 16:09.26 | Niv | Cloudwolf: you can patch now |
| 16:09.35 | Niv | nevcairiel: 30 second uptime sounds pretty useless |
| 16:09.43 | nevcairiel | 30 seconds is long |
| 16:09.46 | Niv | haha |
| 16:09.47 | Cloudwolf | Niv i do not have the key thus i do not have the client |
| 16:09.53 | Niv | Cloudwolf: ah |
| 16:09.53 | nevcairiel | was less during some phases in wotlk |
| 16:10.07 | Niv | nevcairiel: lol |
| 16:10.10 | Niv | only for a day or two |
| 16:10.15 | nevcairiel | some patches will be broken, and sometimes it will not be fixed until another patch hits |
| 16:10.29 | Niv | I was in wrath beta :P |
| 16:10.35 | Niv | and tbc |
| 16:11.05 | Niv | the lag was the worst part of wrath beta |
| 16:11.07 | Maldivia | lol - love the Beyoncé reference from goblin female flirt :P |
| 16:11.19 | Niv | getting like 5 seconds of lag in borean or any phased zone normally |
| 16:12.26 | Maldivia | "If you liked it, you should have put a larger and more elaborate ring on it" |
| 16:13.07 | Lunessa | I'm a sad-beta-panda; I was unable to login to anything but my little worgen warrior last night, and that only for a few minutes. This morning I logged into my main, and got a nice yellow "Server Shutdown in 3:00" - and now I'm at work. :( |
| 16:13.09 | Fisker | btw cog|work or kd3 |
| 16:13.14 | Fisker | guild ui in this build? |
| 16:13.20 | Cloudwolf | lol maldivia |
| 16:13.22 | Lunessa | Negative |
| 16:13.28 | nevcairiel | what i did see in the diff |
| 16:13.34 | nevcairiel | we have cogwheel sockets now |
| 16:13.35 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 16:13.57 | Lunessa | I saw no guild tab on my guilded main. |
| 16:14.37 | Lopeppeppy | No. NO cross-breeding with Cogs! |
| 16:14.40 | Niv | Lunessa: at least you can log in! |
| 16:14.46 | Maldivia | archeology, compact raid, guild control, guild and reforging are still insecure |
| 16:14.47 | Cloudwolf | Are cogwheel sockets and that stuff going to be engineer only? |
| 16:15.03 | Cloudwolf | nvm stupid questoin lol |
| 16:15.06 | Lunessa | Niv: Actually, they shut my server down this morning, so I can't. :P |
| 16:15.14 | Wobin | I still think http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCVhGzrAT0 is the best of the lot of the oldspice shorts |
| 16:15.32 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 16:15.36 | Fisker | old nevcairiel |
| 16:15.41 | Niv | Lunessa: you can login, just not load! |
| 16:15.45 | Maldivia | Wobin: the new ones with the replies to twitter are quite funny :P |
| 16:16.13 | Jelly|SadPanda | pouces on Peppy! |
| 16:16.23 | Wobin | Maldivia: I like the one where he replies to himself |
| 16:16.49 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 16:17.12 | Cloudwolf | their proper department is pretty good |
| 16:17.17 | Cloudwolf | especialy witht he wedding one lol |
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| 16:18.01 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-dear |
| 16:18.43 | Cloudwolf | hmm a jelly deer.... |
| 16:18.56 | Lopeppeppy | Peppy is hungry, it's lunching time. |
| 16:19.14 | nicoli_s | i wish my lunch was here already |
| 16:19.14 | Cloudwolf | i havn't had breakfast yet i should prolly eat |
| 16:19.46 | Mikk | logging onto irc before breakfast is probably wrong regardless of time zone, yes |
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| 16:20.14 | Niv | that's why you stay logged in |
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| 16:20.33 | Maldivia | what if you don't eat breakfast? |
| 16:20.52 | cog|work | will be the cogwheel in your socket. rawr. |
| 16:22.22 | Lopeppeppy | EEEEeeep! |
| 16:22.43 | malreth | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/14/tom-the-dancing-bug-11.html |
| 16:23.59 | Wobin | I think I have to be a bit more American to get that =P |
| 16:24.59 | Lopeppeppy | Sports nut too, Wobin. |
| 16:26.04 | Lunessa | So, will there be sprocket slots? Dirty minds want to know! |
| 16:26.27 | Lopeppeppy | I have a sprocket slot, it's very nice! |
| 16:27.07 | Lunessa | waggles his eyebrows. |
| 16:30.06 | cog|work | the counterpart to cogwheels are hydraulic pumps |
| 16:30.14 | cog|work | rawr |
| 16:30.43 | Lopeppeppy | .... |
| 16:30.58 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 16:31.03 | Lunessa | so what you're saying is that engineers will be building things which are hard-pumping and indefatigably steely? |
| 16:31.47 | cog|work | now i have the camelot song stuck in my head |
| 16:32.05 | airtonix | brave beave sir robin! |
| 16:32.10 | airtonix | brave* |
| 16:32.47 | Lunessa | Nah, "he has to push the pram a lot." |
| 16:34.30 | Mikk | ties a piece of string to Lunessa for coconut transport |
| 16:34.43 | Cloudwolf | lol lunessa montypython reference ftw |
| 16:36.36 | cog|work | Cloudwolf: i started it |
| 16:36.40 | cog|work | :P |
| 16:36.42 | airtonix | no you didn't |
| 16:36.48 | cog|work | 09:31 < cog|work> now i have the camelot song stuck in my head |
| 16:36.54 | airtonix | no it's not |
| 16:37.22 | Wobin | Lets not go there |
| 16:37.26 | Wobin | (it's a silly place) |
| 16:37.35 | airtonix | no it's not |
| 16:37.41 | ckknight | I am a man of constant sorrow |
| 16:37.47 | airtonix | ... |
| 16:38.00 | cog|work | contradicts airtonix |
| 16:38.07 | airtonix | rages |
| 16:39.19 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzxZRKIi1Fs&feature=autofb |
| 16:39.42 | Lunessa | ckknight: excellent song, fun film. |
| 16:39.43 | Lopeppeppy | you and me and the devil makes three |
| 16:39.49 | ckknight | oh yea, Lunessa |
| 16:39.52 | ckknight | I got the song stuck in my head |
| 16:40.04 | Lunessa | looks for it on YouTube... |
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| 16:42.34 | Cloudwolf | LOL wobin |
| 16:42.38 | Cloudwolf | aol sounds D: |
| 16:43.29 | Wobin | aol?! |
| 16:43.40 | Wobin | <-- this is my shocked face |
| 16:43.47 | Cloudwolf | sorry united states thing |
| 16:43.55 | Lopeppeppy | Juno dial-up tones! |
| 16:43.57 | Cloudwolf | Dialup connection sounds |
| 16:44.27 | Cloudwolf | Only company that i remeber that used that at all was aol worst company ever... |
| 16:44.45 | nevcairiel | every freaking modem emits those sounds |
| 16:44.56 | Wobin | dial up has been around long before aol =P |
| 16:45.16 | Lunessa | You know, I used to write code at AOL. |
| 16:45.25 | Vangual | i miss the ability to initialize my modem into the headset of telemarketers :< |
| 16:45.29 | Wobin | shuns Lunessa, like a shunning thing =) |
| 16:45.29 | nevcairiel | Sorry. |
| 16:46.38 | mikma | wobin: :D |
| 16:46.59 | Lunessa | It was a good 5.5 years of making the world a cooler place. |
| 16:47.12 | Wobin | Lunessa: one free CD at a time =) |
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| 16:47.15 | Lunessa | 94 - 2000 |
| 16:47.25 | cog|work | Wobin: holy crap that campaign is turning out to be best. evar. |
| 16:47.37 | Fisker | Maldivia etc. |
| 16:47.38 | cog|work | Axe eat your hart out |
| 16:47.39 | Lunessa | Wobin: Actually, when I went there to work, it was a floppy disk. |
| 16:47.48 | alestane | So, just called one of my friends who may have just had a baby, and the voice mail says, "You have called ***, evil overlord. If you are one of my minions, leave your helpful suggestion for world domination after the beep. If you are anyone else, you can still leave a message but I am much less likely to get back to you." |
| 16:48.17 | Lunessa | alestane: Win |
| 16:48.20 | Wobin | cog|work: I know! It's really well executed |
| 16:48.44 | Maldivia | Fisker ? |
| 16:48.58 | Fisker | Is the guild ui in beta yet? |
| 16:49.06 | Maldivia | archeology, compact raid, guild control, guild and reforging are still marked insecure |
| 16:49.12 | Fisker | :(? |
| 16:49.13 | Maldivia | so, yes and no .P |
| 16:49.16 | alestane | Repost for cog|work being |away earlier: |
| 16:49.22 | Lunessa | for a while my answering machine used to say "You've reached the Secret Headquarters of Stupendous Man! I'm out fighting injustice right now, but if you'll leave a message, I'll deal with your injustice too." |
| 16:49.23 | alestane | HS friend of mine says: |
| 16:49.23 | alestane | "Trying an experiment: Cherry infused espresso. It might be horrible, but it may also be very yummy. |
| 16:49.23 | alestane | "Verdict, served over ice with a twist of lemon, it's damn good." |
| 16:49.55 | cog|work | noms |
| 16:50.36 | cog|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVUn16k4B0I |
| 16:51.02 | cog|work | gogo English contortion |
| 16:51.23 | alestane | Lunessa, somewhere I have a collection of answering machine message jokes. The one I always remember first was the Klingon Voice: "Answering Machine. SPEAK." |
| 16:51.41 | Lunessa | Heh |
| 16:52.44 | Wobin | only explicitly do not recommend operating huge machinery while never being under the influence of old spice. Ever. |
| 16:56.06 | Lopeppeppy | I just never have an answering machine message, ever. |
| 16:57.14 | Lunessa | Taste the flames of Sulfuron! |
| 16:57.17 | alestane | I think your voice mail is just the stock "____ is not available" with your name filled in. |
| 16:57.22 | Morkesh | god :( i hate this "We no speak americano" song, yet it's too catchy to stop listening to |
| 16:58.20 | Lopeppeppy | Try "barbie girl" by Aqua. |
| 16:58.24 | Lunessa | Oh snap, "Ragnaros was awesome, he felt, looked and sounded like a god, if only he had used Old Spice he could've smelled like one too." - Fisker got a beta key |
| 16:58.39 | Fisker | you're hot cog|work |
| 16:58.45 | cog|work | turns on a fan |
| 16:58.55 | cog|work | and a commercial just came on "can we turn the AC up back here?" |
| 16:58.55 | Fisker | hmm cog|work |
| 16:58.56 | Wobin | becomes a fan. |
| 16:59.02 | cog|work | Wobin: rawr |
| 16:59.05 | Fisker | i wonder if i should tweet him under the alias of cumdumpster |
| 16:59.43 | Cloudwolf | securehookers wants to ask if i answer questoins from people with inapropriate names |
| 17:00.00 | Lopeppeppy | I don't know, do you? |
| 17:00.09 | airtonix | yes |
| 17:00.11 | airtonix | do it |
| 17:00.18 | Morkesh | Lopeppeppy, i'm danish, i grew up with Aqua, i like it for nostalgic evenings of getting drunk |
| 17:00.20 | Jamash|CAAAAAAKE | It depends on the question |
| 17:00.27 | airtonix | ... |
| 17:00.38 | airtonix | if cake is your mode |
| 17:00.39 | Fisker | slime |
| 17:00.43 | Fisker | jeg er en dåse slime |
| 17:00.44 | airtonix | then i question your sanity |
| 17:00.46 | Fisker | og du kan lege med mig |
| 17:01.05 | Lunessa | longs for a guild ui |
| 17:01.06 | Jamash | If cake /isn't/ your mode, then I question yours. |
| 17:01.22 | Jamash | for who is the saner man, the one with cake or the one without? |
| 17:01.47 | airtonix | at least i'm not the one bending over for soap in a shower room full of bald men |
| 17:02.32 | airtonix | sorry was that your throat |
| 17:02.58 | Lunessa | is a bald man... |
| 17:03.03 | Jamash | airtonix has turned into fisker, interesting |
| 17:03.58 | Ackis | https://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/2ff18a16-2ea4-4d32-a21f-b4b420cf9046.jpg POM |
| 17:04.44 | Jamash | huh |
| 17:06.18 | Ackis | huh @ me? |
| 17:06.47 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: can you plant 3 eggplant in frontierville when you get a chance please? |
| 17:06.47 | Jamash | huh at the picture |
| 17:06.51 | Ackis | it's a Pom |
| 17:06.57 | Ackis | anything to do with Pom's == win |
| 17:07.00 | Jamash | okay |
| 17:07.10 | Fisker | frontierville = farmville in space? |
| 17:07.24 | Ackis | frontierville == farmville on the frontier |
| 17:07.29 | Fisker | i will find you and murder you Ackis |
| 17:07.38 | Fisker | i mean, hello Ackis |
| 17:07.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Warren ellis has the right idea: http://twitter.com/warrenellis/status/18532705779 |
| 17:08.09 | Fisker | Warren ellis is a jerk |
| 17:09.07 | Morkesh | is there an addon with the snatch feature from auctioneer but without the 8.5 million other features? |
| 17:10.53 | Ackis | http://www.trueachievements.com/newsitem.aspx?newsitemid=1526 I have the legendary edition on order |
| 17:10.55 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: ^ |
| 17:11.09 | eidolarr | about makefiles: http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=1257 |
| 17:13.19 | alestane | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-18658.html Another one of those gamers who gives the hobby a bad name. (slightly NSFW). |
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| 17:14.26 | alestane | I've had students like this: "No, I stopped taking my meds because I like crazy me better" |
| 17:14.45 | airtonix | lol |
| 17:15.09 | eidolarr | i know lots of people like that, they're just less happy on meds =/ |
| 17:15.23 | Jamash | I'm a lot less happy off meds |
| 17:15.29 | Jamash | but to each his own |
| 17:16.08 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm just less happy. |
| 17:16.15 | alestane | Nice to see SOME people have realistic expectations: http://notalwaysright.com/piercing-observation/6174 |
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| 17:17.50 | eidolarr | C-d works in wow chat frame too =DDD |
| 17:18.31 | Morkesh | goddamnit -.- summer vs. GPU 5-0 |
| 17:18.37 | eidolarr | now i just need to figure out where to put my .emacs file |
| 17:19.00 | Morkesh | eidolarr what are you making? :P |
| 17:19.34 | eidolarr | nothing related to emacs, I am just amused that the wow chatframe appears to support some of its keybinds |
| 17:19.44 | Morkesh | oh? :P which ones? |
| 17:19.54 | eidolarr | C-f, C-b, C-d, C-w |
| 17:20.08 | durcyn | those aren't exactly emacs-specific. |
| 17:20.17 | eidolarr | what are they? |
| 17:20.32 | Jamash | I tried to use ^W in chatzilla yesterday and it closed the channel :( |
| 17:20.42 | Lunessa | I am a man of constant sorrow, trouble's haunted me all my days... |
| 17:20.51 | eidolarr | Jamash: that is generally my experience too haha |
| 17:21.02 | eidolarr | briefly forgetting I am not in emacs, followed by cursing |
| 17:21.03 | Morkesh | Lunessa are you trying to tell us you'r /wristing? :P second time you say that today |
| 17:21.26 | Lunessa | No, CKKnight said it earlier. I've got the song on loop now... |
| 17:21.38 | eidolarr | durcyn: what are those bindings originally from? |
| 17:22.12 | ckknight | Morkesh: from "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" |
| 17:23.09 | Morkesh | arh |
| 17:24.35 | Dashkal | crosses fingers for key fix today |
| 17:27.20 | Wobin | Lunessa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyccmlaKS8s |
| 17:28.49 | Grum | <eidolarr> about makefiles: http://www.dadhacker.com/blog/?p=1257 <-- good one :D |
| 17:28.49 | Lunessa | Wobin: EVIL |
| 17:29.28 | Wobin | the guy that did this does some really good mashups |
| 17:30.30 | Grum | omg omg omg youtube tossing 502 errors .. world is coming to an end |
| 17:30.37 | Sentri | yep :P |
| 17:30.39 | Wobin | Grum: I know! |
| 17:30.51 | Grum | QUICKLY SACRIFICE YOR FIRSTBORNS :( |
| 17:31.07 | Lunessa | I was laughing because every time the song said trouble or sorrow, there was a picture of Gwen. |
| 17:33.07 | mikma | ah hahahahaha |
| 17:33.20 | mikma | "Nom Nom Nom" |
| 17:33.24 | mikma | nice talent |
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| 17:34.33 | Wobin | mikma: I -hope- they keep the name |
| 17:37.04 | mikma | building a feral-tree is easy enough |
| 17:40.02 | nevcairiel | all druid trees are kidna easy .. might say boring .. not much choice in there |
| 17:40.39 | mikma | http://www.wowtal.com/#k=fvvgEMNR.9mn.druid :I |
| 17:43.29 | cbreak | I heard they removed the druid tree |
| 17:43.32 | foxlit | wait, no improved leader of the pack? |
| 17:43.36 | cbreak | or made it temporary |
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| 17:44.22 | nevcairiel | that too |
| 17:44.45 | nevcairiel | the resto tree is also kinda broken, swiftmend is supposed to be the spell you get for the choice for the tree, its however a talent too |
| 17:48.02 | Sesshu | guys |
| 17:48.14 | Sesshu | what happens when i do wipe(_G) hm? |
| 17:48.27 | nevcairiel | hilarity ensues |
| 17:48.53 | ckknight | oh that'd mess things up |
| 17:48.57 | Wobin | Shenanigans occur |
| 17:49.12 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 17:49.17 | Fisker | not so hey Wobin |
| 17:49.19 | Fisker | *stares* |
| 17:49.24 | ckknight | Fisker, my nemesis |
| 17:49.43 | Fisker | nemesis?! |
| 17:50.58 | mikma | muah |
| 17:52.31 | Lunessa | hilarity does, in fact ensure. |
| 17:52.41 | Lunessa | ensue |
| 17:52.47 | Ackis | new Kings Quest released!!111!!!! |
| 17:52.54 | Fisker | out with you Ackis |
| 17:52.54 | airtonix | orly? |
| 17:52.59 | Ackis | http://bit.ly/9hPSOd |
| 17:53.06 | Fisker | it's also old |
| 17:53.21 | Ackis | it's been developed for a while, not released Fisker |
| 17:53.27 | airtonix | is it compatiable with dos 5.2 ? |
| 17:53.53 | Ackis | lol |
| 17:54.04 | airtonix | mmm |
| 17:54.14 | airtonix | im not paying for windows 3.1 to play this |
| 17:54.19 | Morkesh | sounds like blizz handed out random keys today |
| 17:54.27 | airtonix | yeah |
| 17:54.31 | Morkesh | if they work out-of-the-box i'll be a sad panda :p |
| 17:54.32 | airtonix | you didn't get one ? |
| 17:54.37 | Morkesh | i have one :) |
| 17:54.42 | Morkesh | but "Login server busy" |
| 17:54.51 | airtonix | that's what she said |
| 17:55.24 | Morkesh | yep |
| 17:55.29 | Morkesh | what about Fisker, did he get one? :p |
| 17:55.38 | amro | Ackis: looks like a disney chick flick |
| 17:56.34 | airtonix | http://pastebin.com/66xvM3UH |
| 17:56.36 | airtonix | lol |
| 17:57.59 | amro | more tea for me |
| 17:58.09 | amro | also, gunpowder tea sounds dangerous |
| 17:58.39 | cbreak | tasty though |
| 17:59.11 | Morkesh | oooh :D would like to try it |
| 17:59.17 | Morkesh | got green tea with mango atm |
| 17:59.24 | amro | chinese gunpowder green tea is my favorite |
| 18:02.52 | Cide | anyone good with php-gettext? |
| 18:03.35 | cog|work | LOLPHP |
| 18:04.09 | Cide | I know :/ |
| 18:04.17 | amro | Cide: it's official, you're banned from using django |
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| 18:04.28 | amro | please hand over your python vm |
| 18:04.29 | Cide | why would I be? |
| 18:04.42 | airtonix | i lol'd |
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| 18:05.04 | amro | I was going to ask why you're asking about php first, but was too lazyt |
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| 18:05.28 | airtonix | yes! always preface the discussion with an insult |
| 18:05.47 | Cide | because clients have requirements |
| 18:05.49 | nevcairiel | i used gettext in php way back once |
| 18:05.55 | nevcairiel | didnt seem especially tricky |
| 18:06.05 | amro | my condolences, Cide |
| 18:06.40 | Cide | nevcairiel, it is if you're using a CMS (CodeIgniter) on an external server which doesn't support the locale you want |
| 18:07.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 18:07.05 | Cide | so you have to use php-gettext and there's like no troubleshooting options |
| 18:07.46 | amro | Cide: what's the server running? |
| 18:07.59 | Cide | PHP? |
| 18:08.03 | Cide | do you want a version? |
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| 18:08.18 | amro | no I mean the os |
| 18:08.23 | Cide | linux |
| 18:08.40 | airtonix | ... |
| 18:08.40 | amro | you don't have access to install the needed locale? |
| 18:08.45 | Cide | nope |
| 18:08.48 | Cide | no ssh |
| 18:08.48 | Cloudwolf | O.o lightwell looks strange for cataclysm |
| 18:09.00 | amro | I don't think it's possible without installing the locale |
| 18:09.04 | Cloudwolf | attacks that do 30% of your total health cancle the heal. so you can technically still take dmg and have the heal working |
| 18:09.05 | Cide | it isn't |
| 18:09.09 | Cide | that's why I use php-gettext |
| 18:09.21 | Cide | which is a 3rd party extension that emulates the built-in gettext() without requiring the locale |
| 18:09.24 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:09.27 | Fisker | slap |
| 18:09.27 | Fisker | d |
| 18:09.33 | amro | oh |
| 18:10.10 | Cide | but since gettext("foo") defaults to returning "foo" I can't tell if it can't find my translation files or what |
| 18:10.30 | Satisfyme | Cide: what do you need it for? |
| 18:10.38 | Cide | translating a webpage... |
| 18:12.06 | Satisfyme | kk there is alot of ways to do that :) |
| 18:12.08 | amro | if your needs are simple, you can probably handroll a solution faster than you can figure out what's wrong with that |
| 18:12.21 | Cide | they aren't simple :< |
| 18:12.41 | amro | doesn't codeigniter have i18n builtin |
| 18:12.51 | amro | it seems like a fairly huge thing to leave out |
| 18:12.55 | nevcairiel | i looked at codeigniter some time ago, it looked kinda sane |
| 18:12.57 | Cide | codeigniter does i18n in a stupid way |
| 18:12.59 | nevcairiel | for being php, etc |
| 18:13.04 | amro | I tried CI once |
| 18:13.07 | amro | it's not sane at all |
| 18:14.16 | amro | there were so many restrictions that it felt like walking a tightrope |
| 18:16.56 | mikma | wobin: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1938376 |
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| 18:19.22 | jnwhiteh | Bah, someone told me League of Legends was on Mac |
| 18:19.24 | jnwhiteh | they lied =/ |
| 18:20.04 | Lopeppeppy | *gasp* |
| 18:20.52 | Cide | it's much worse than HoN anyway in my experience |
| 18:21.21 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1938376 -> 3:40 :DDDDDD |
| 18:21.25 | jnwhiteh | I've just dropped from 1700 to sub 1500 |
| 18:21.28 | jnwhiteh | in HoN |
| 18:21.36 | jnwhiteh | which severely dropped my enjoyment of the game |
| 18:22.08 | jnwhiteh | I'm not a very good ganker, and supporting idiots gets me killed |
| 18:22.14 | amro | jnwhiteh: don't play with pugs |
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| 18:22.20 | jnwhiteh | I MM |
| 18:22.23 | Ackis | I gave up on HoN after 2 games =/ |
| 18:22.24 | jnwhiteh | and I don't have a guild |
| 18:22.26 | amro | MM is horrible |
| 18:22.27 | jnwhiteh | or I'd love to play |
| 18:22.34 | jnwhiteh | but without a clan |
| 18:22.34 | amro | I tried 5 times |
| 18:22.35 | jnwhiteh | makes it tough |
| 18:22.41 | amro | hands down 5 worst HoN matches I've played |
| 18:22.44 | Ackis | my fiancee loves it and does well in it |
| 18:23.05 | amro | I don't have a clan either but I have a few people in my friends list |
| 18:23.18 | jnwhiteh | ah, I don't really |
| 18:23.18 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 18:23.28 | Cide | jnwhiteh, can play with me ^_^ |
| 18:23.33 | amro | add me |
| 18:23.34 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 18:23.49 | Cide | I'm by no means great |
| 18:23.50 | Cide | but still |
| 18:24.04 | jnwhiteh | nicks? |
| 18:24.21 | amro | shockingly enough, "amro" |
| 18:24.24 | Cide | Cide |
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| 18:27.02 | jnwhiteh | requested |
| 18:27.02 | cbreak | I wonder why in SC2, the authenticator entry field doesn't show the numbers but just stars instead. |
| 18:27.20 | Niv | that drives me nuts |
| 18:28.02 | cbreak | it's not like it adds more to security |
| 18:28.03 | amro | cbreak: man-behind-the-shoulder attacks? |
| 18:28.13 | cbreak | they can read the number from the authenticator... |
| 18:28.33 | Niv | no trojans that screenshot your authenticator code and send it back realtime clearly |
| 18:28.40 | amro | you hold up your authenticator? |
| 18:28.49 | cbreak | I hold it so I can see it |
| 18:28.57 | Niv | mobile authenticator ftrw |
| 18:28.59 | Niv | ftrw* |
| 18:29.00 | Niv | fuck |
| 18:29.05 | Niv | you get the point |
| 18:29.05 | cog|work | lawl |
| 18:29.11 | cbreak | fuck mobile authenticator? |
| 18:29.12 | cog|work | for the real win |
| 18:29.20 | amro | it's a lot easier to conceal the authenticator than the screen |
| 18:29.26 | amro | (not that I'm pushing this point seriously) |
| 18:29.31 | Niv | it's valid for ~60 seconds |
| 18:29.32 | Niv | who cares |
| 18:29.50 | alestane | is a bit bored and morose. |
| 18:31.18 | eidolarr | can anyone on beta do me a favor? Run event trace and then generate "You have no target" errors, and let me know if UI_ERROR_MESSAGE fires more than once |
| 18:32.33 | cbreak | aren't addons not allowed on beta? |
| 18:32.44 | cbreak | I read a blue that they won't allow it until near to release |
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| 18:32.54 | Lunessa | alestane: None of the usual things cheering you up? |
| 18:33.09 | Dashkal | I thought event tracing was baseline now |
| 18:33.10 | alestane | Too many things I have to wait a bit for. |
| 18:33.14 | eidolarr | cbreak: don't need an addon |
| 18:33.17 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: go out for lunch somewhere with a nice view, have a beer and a nice juicy burger. |
| 18:33.21 | Lopeppeppy | waiting fills. but still sucks |
| 18:33.38 | alestane | Things will get better. But now kind of bites. |
| 18:33.42 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe bring a book... |
| 18:34.13 | NeoTron | main reason I changed to the iphone authenticator was that the physical one didn't have backlight and WoW dimming the screen when the authenticator screen showed up |
| 18:34.19 | NeoTron | so I couldn't see it barely |
| 18:34.34 | Lopeppeppy | Turn on a lamp? :P |
| 18:34.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 18:34.44 | nevcairiel | i had the same problem |
| 18:34.48 | nevcairiel | was kinda annoying |
| 18:34.54 | NightHawkTheSane | does everyone here play in the dark, or something? :P |
| 18:34.57 | eidolarr | nobody is playing beta right now? =( |
| 18:35.08 | cbreak | downloading newest patch |
| 18:35.20 | nevcairiel | my world server is constantly crashing |
| 18:35.23 | NeoTron | Lopeppeppy: inconvenient :P |
| 18:35.26 | alestane | I'm getting disconnected every three minutes or so, eidolarr. |
| 18:35.54 | nevcairiel | 3 minutes? thats actually rather long |
| 18:35.55 | Lopeppeppy | Inconvenient ain't no one problem! |
| 18:35.59 | nevcairiel | i usually dont last a minute |
| 18:36.03 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: naturally. also there's another reason - I always have the phone with me so I can log into my account page etc if I'm not home |
| 18:36.20 | Morkesh | have they fixed the login server busy thing yet? |
| 18:36.32 | nevcairiel | apparently not |
| 18:36.34 | nevcairiel | but works here |
| 18:36.44 | Morkesh | arh alright |
| 18:36.44 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: yeah, that's occurred to me as well. not being able to log in when i'm not home is mildly annoying |
| 18:36.58 | NeoTron | Lopeppeppy: mainly it'd annoy my wife. My "office" is connected to the master bedroom only separated by a somewhat think, but hardly light proof fabric |
| 18:37.03 | Morkesh | anyone here got any experience in addons communicating with Pallypower? |
| 18:38.23 | Lopeppeppy | Communicating in what way? |
| 18:38.33 | mikma | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1938060 |
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| 18:40.42 | Morkesh | Lopeppeppy: basically, i'm tired of the looks of PP |
| 18:41.01 | Morkesh | so for the sake of learning, i'd like to make a replacement |
| 18:42.16 | Lopeppeppy | Might be better to just see if you can skin it, rather than replace the whole thing... but it's your project, have fun! |
| 18:42.46 | Morkesh | haha, meh |
| 18:43.01 | Morkesh | you can actually but haven't really look at how it's done |
| 18:43.25 | Lopeppeppy | Why not start there? It's going to be just a weeee bit simpler, for the sake of learning. |
| 18:43.31 | Morkesh | haha :P |
| 18:43.41 | Morkesh | well, wouldn't teach me much of addon communication now would it? |
| 18:43.50 | Morkesh | but guess you'r right, shouldn't take long to figure out |
| 18:44.30 | Sentri | hmm still shows me busy login server |
| 18:44.51 | Lopeppeppy | Wonky beta is having a very bad day today. |
| 18:45.36 | Morkesh | my friends who'd in beta because he's an MVP is teasing me :( |
| 18:45.52 | Xinhuan | the busy login server issue seems to be account-selective |
| 18:45.56 | Xinhuan | cos i'm not seeing it |
| 18:46.11 | Sentri | Xinhuan: where did you get your beta key from? |
| 18:46.17 | Xinhuan | i just logged in and out about 5 times in a row |
| 18:46.22 | Xinhuan | to see if i can get the problem |
| 18:46.28 | Xinhuan | i got it about 2 months ago Sentri |
| 18:46.34 | Sentri | ok |
| 18:46.50 | alestane | Okay, Spricket cheers me up a bit. |
| 18:47.02 | Sentri | so could it be caused by the beta auth db not being refreshed properly? |
| 18:47.10 | nevcairiel | no |
| 18:47.19 | Sentri | hmm |
| 18:47.19 | nevcairiel | I can login fine, and i got the key on monday evening |
| 18:47.35 | nevcairiel | just my worldserver crashes all the time |
| 18:47.35 | Xinhuan | that's why i think its account selective |
| 18:47.40 | Sentri | well I got my on tuesday evening (EU perspective) |
| 18:47.51 | Sentri | so over a day later |
| 18:47.58 | Vangual | nev killed it :( |
| 18:48.01 | Sentri | tuesday morning* I meant |
| 18:48.08 | Kalroth | nevs ebil |
| 18:48.08 | Xinhuan | nevcairiel, u on EU server right? |
| 18:48.13 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 18:48.15 | Xuerian | I can log in to my live account, but I can't log in to the beta (Second WoWI wave) |
| 18:48.20 | Xinhuan | US one isn't crashing so, heh |
| 18:48.22 | nevcairiel | kalimdor wont even let me login at all right now |
| 18:48.42 | Sentri | I would like to know if anyone who has got the kay on the last two days has been able to log in |
| 18:48.54 | Sentri | key* |
| 18:49.00 | Xinhuan | i have a guildie who said he has trouble logging in, he got his key also about 2 months ago |
| 18:49.07 | Sentri | ok |
| 18:49.23 | nevcairiel | also Xinhuan, alestane said he is disconnecting as well, and he is US, probably with a alpha key =) |
| 18:49.24 | Xinhuan | so, again, i think its account selective |
| 18:49.27 | nicoli_s | i know people who got their author keys from curse who also cant login atm |
| 18:49.28 | mikma | i have been getting login server busy -errors |
| 18:49.37 | nicoli_s | but i got a press key a week ago and i can get in fine |
| 18:49.59 | Cide | ok |
| 18:50.04 | Cide | I need some things translated |
| 18:50.11 | Xinhuan | google translate! |
| 18:50.23 | Cide | "Danish" in Danish, "Norwegian" in Norwegian, "Finnish" in Finnish |
| 18:50.33 | Sentri | Finnish = Suomi |
| 18:50.37 | DWSR | Google translation. |
| 18:50.37 | Cide | thought so |
| 18:50.38 | mikma | cide: Suomeksi in Finnish |
| 18:50.40 | Sentri | meaning the language |
| 18:50.49 | Cide | which is correct? |
| 18:51.05 | mikma | is it for language menu? |
| 18:51.10 | Sentri | "in finnish" = suomeksi "finnish" (language) = suomi |
| 18:51.25 | Cide | yes, mikma |
| 18:51.32 | mikma | if it is, "Suomeksi" means "in Finnish" |
| 18:51.41 | Cide | gonna go with that then |
| 18:51.41 | Cide | thanks |
| 18:51.54 | mikma | thats what the eu dvd's use, too |
| 18:52.14 | mikma | some releases have mistyped it "Soumeksi" ;) |
| 18:53.12 | Kalroth | Dansk, Cide |
| 18:53.22 | Cide | not Danske? |
| 18:53.23 | mikma | Norsk? |
| 18:53.27 | Cide | Norsk, yep |
| 18:53.31 | Kalroth | Nope, not Danske |
| 18:53.40 | Kalroth | (it is plural) |
| 18:53.40 | Cide | ok, thanks |
| 18:53.51 | alestane | Lunessa (and anyone else who cares), if you're not already familiar with this girl, she is perplexingly funny, smarter than she usually sounds and shows a LOT of cleavage on webcam: http://www.youtube.com/user/spricket24#p/u/6/1G5ekULBjic |
| 18:54.05 | alestane | (frequently NSFW) |
| 18:54.18 | airtonix | fapfapfap |
| 18:54.34 | alestane | Thank you for that touching accent. |
| 18:54.41 | Kalroth | Cide: Well it depends on the context really; "the danish language" == "Det danske sprog", but "danish" = "dansk" |
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| 18:54.55 | Cide | it's for a language selection menu |
| 18:55.00 | Kalroth | Dansk it is |
| 18:55.07 | Cide | thanks |
| 18:55.29 | KarlKFI|work | that camera angle was made for cleavage |
| 18:55.45 | mikma | Cleavage angle |
| 18:55.59 | KarlKFI|work | myspace angle |
| 18:56.09 | airtonix | yourspace ? |
| 18:56.17 | mikma | mytube |
| 18:56.23 | KarlKFI|work | what can i say, i like bobos |
| 18:56.24 | airtonix | butttube |
| 18:56.33 | Kaso | is 3.3.5 still 30300? |
| 18:56.36 | KarlKFI|work | nothx |
| 18:56.41 | mikma | karlkfi|work: bobo as in mj's chimp? |
| 18:56.41 | airtonix | she talks too much |
| 18:56.43 | durcyn | Niv: getting LOGIN_OK, followed by DISCONNECTED now |
| 18:57.09 | KarlKFI|work | yes, the one he tried to make talk by pestering vocal surgins |
| 18:57.23 | mikma | yeah, nice stuff imo |
| 18:57.41 | Xuerian | alestane: She's only mildly disturbing. |
| 18:58.05 | cbreak | wonder if blizzard gave up on female worgen |
| 18:58.18 | foxlit | durcyn: been trying to log in too often? |
| 18:58.27 | alestane | Most of the time she's just sort of the YoutTube equivalent of a stand-up comic. Occasionally she pulls out all the stops. |
| 18:58.58 | Ackis | star wars on a subway |
| 18:59.02 | alestane | There are NPCs, cbreak, but I suspect they're not happy with the model or animations yet. |
| 18:59.03 | durcyn | foxlit: probably, i hit it a few times in a row. |
| 18:59.19 | cbreak | I made a female worgen in early beta |
| 18:59.24 | cbreak | but she got converted to male :( |
| 18:59.29 | durcyn | foxlit: beta account cache is probably screwed, might as well not even bother until an announcement is made, i guess |
| 18:59.29 | foxlit | DISCONNECTED is typically "zomg stop trying to brute-force our login servers!" |
| 18:59.43 | Lunessa | alestane: interesting, but not as good as the Hot for Words chick. |
| 19:00.00 | Cide | or boxxi. |
| 19:00.07 | Lunessa | alestane: http://www.hotforwords.com/ |
| 19:00.14 | mikma | boxxi is craaaazy |
| 19:00.23 | Ackis | star wars on a subway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5gCeWEGiQI |
| 19:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I dont suppose anyone's familiar with google's document viewer? specificlly why it periodically requires me to log in to my google account, when there's no reason to freaking do so.. |
| 19:00.32 | Ackis | I forgot to link teh video last time derp |
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| 19:01.01 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: it wants to save the docs online (for your later use, just for you) |
| 19:01.39 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: ofc, you can change the settings so that selected friends / groups can see the docs, too |
| 19:01.40 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, google has been doing that to me very often as well, in many google apps. I think they just upped their RNG for making you log back in, or something. |
| 19:02.23 | NightHawkTheSane | well, this is for content that you shouldn't have to be logged in for to begin with |
| 19:02.32 | DWSR | NHTS: That doesn't matter. |
| 19:02.35 | NightHawkTheSane | it's content that' NOT hosted on google's server, just served up using their doc viewer >< |
| 19:02.46 | DWSR | Any time you hit a Google site, it validates your credentials. |
| 19:02.58 | DWSR | And every so often, Google asks you to revalidate. |
| 19:03.08 | NightHawkTheSane | thats really dumb. |
| 19:03.11 | mikma | i kinda like the google document viewer anyway |
| 19:03.13 | cbreak | DWSR: it's for your privacy |
| 19:03.19 | NightHawkTheSane | and kind of, ENTIRELY, breaks the point of an embeddable viewer |
| 19:03.24 | cbreak | google doesn't want you to have it :) |
| 19:03.27 | mikma | works amazingly good and you can open the docs later |
| 19:03.51 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: it's awesome for displaying embedded pdfs that you're hosting on a remote cdn |
| 19:04.28 | cog|work | Cide: "PHP is a minor evil perpetrated and created by incompetent amateurs, whereas Perl is a great and insidious evil perpetrated by skilled but perverted professionals." |
| 19:04.30 | mikma | it can open pdf's too? |
| 19:04.37 | NightHawkTheSane | yep |
| 19:04.38 | Cide | anyway I figured it out |
| 19:04.58 | Cide | had to use the behind-the-scenes internal php-gettext names |
| 19:05.12 | Cide | because it doesn't take into account proper gettext support existing but not working |
| 19:07.09 | cog|work | "Engineers are all basically high-functioning autistics who have no idea how normal people do stuff." |
| 19:07.23 | Cide | that's a pretty striking description of me |
| 19:07.36 | mikma | hey, my rogue is engineer =/ |
| 19:07.42 | cog|work | and Shirik ;) |
| 19:07.49 | cog|work | ducks |
| 19:08.01 | Xuerian | Bwahahaha |
| 19:08.06 | cbreak | cog|work: hey, I know how normal people do stuff! |
| 19:08.07 | Xuerian | Ghat's great, cog. |
| 19:08.10 | cbreak | they do it wrong |
| 19:08.16 | cog|work | ^ |
| 19:08.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ~cbreak++ |
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| 19:08.39 | cog|work | ~cbreak++ |
| 19:08.52 | cog|work | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/58640/great-programming-quotes-closed fwiw |
| 19:10.49 | mikma | cog|work: that sucks, like shirik |
| 19:11.10 | DWSR | google.com/search?q=recursion |
| 19:11.32 | alestane | "The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the code accounts for the other 90% of the development time." |
| 19:11.38 | NightHawkTheSane | to lunch! |
| 19:11.42 | NightHawkTheSane | afks |
| 19:12.22 | DWSR | Java is to JavaScript what Car is to Carpet. |
| 19:13.04 | alestane | "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone" |
| 19:13.20 | KarlKFI|work | is if yo uwant to cut a rug... you abstract some js? |
| 19:13.34 | KarlKFI|work | so if* |
| 19:14.13 | alestane | "On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], 'Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question." |
| 19:14.30 | DWSR | It should be noted that no ethically-trained software engineer would ever consent to write a DestroyBaghdad procedure. Basic professional ethics would instead require him to write a DestroyCity procedure, to which Baghdad could be given as a parameter. |
| 19:14.47 | mikma | get a room, nerds |
| 19:15.03 | Cide | get a channel, alien |
| 19:15.05 | cog|work | mikma: a chat room? |
| 19:15.08 | cog|work | like this one? |
| 19:15.10 | DWSR | ~Cide++ |
| 19:15.29 | mikma | cog|work: its called "channel" here in irc |
| 19:16.09 | KarlKFI|work | DWSR: that only applies to OO programmers |
| 19:16.11 | alestane | "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any other invention in human history, with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila" |
| 19:16.22 | Lopeppeppy | bubble wrap! |
| 19:16.38 | cog|work | KarlKFI|work: no? |
| 19:16.39 | Cide | KarlKFI|work, not really |
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| 19:16.47 | alestane | Is bubble wrap germane to something, Lopeppeppy, or do you just find it exciting? |
| 19:17.20 | Cide | OO would be defining City::Destroy() and calling (new City("Baghdad"))->Destroy() |
| 19:17.21 | Lopeppeppy | popping it is a mistake, which you do fastly. |
| 19:17.25 | KarlKFI|work | yeah ok, my brain said "no wait!" as soon as i hit enter |
| 19:18.06 | KarlKFI|work | please don't construct new baghdads |
| 19:18.59 | alestane | Also, I think in good OO, DestroyCity would be a method of some MassDestruction<> interface. |
| 19:19.03 | KarlKFI|work | world.getCity("Baghdad"):Destroy() |
| 19:19.04 | alestane | "Perl - The only language that looks the same before and after RSA encryption." -- Keith Bostic |
| 19:19.28 | alestane | Are you working in Java/C++ or Lua, KarlKFI|work? |
| 19:19.33 | cog|work | "Weeks of coding can save you hours of planning." (unattributed) |
| 19:19.34 | KarlKFI|work | yes |
| 19:19.36 | mikma | coboltbomb:Drop() |
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| 19:20.24 | Cide | help me out guys |
| 19:20.26 | Cide | http://81.26.239.34/replay/2010-06-25/nva-quality-rapotor-cid/ |
| 19:20.33 | Cide | does the right hand side look weird to you? |
| 19:20.46 | Cide | seems a bit inconsistent |
| 19:20.51 | cog|work | yeah |
| 19:20.56 | cbreak | Cide: city will be destroyed once it goes out of scope if you allocate it on the stack, much more convenient. |
| 19:21.10 | Cide | but less explicit |
| 19:21.24 | KarlKFI|work | *cringe* |
| 19:21.30 | cog|work | Cide: seems like the text should all be aligned to the left edge of the picture |
| 19:21.41 | alestane | Why is popping it a mistake, Peppy? Were you going to reuse it? |
| 19:21.42 | Cide | for Teams? |
| 19:21.45 | cog|work | yep |
| 19:21.52 | Cide | team numbers on left or right? |
| 19:21.54 | Cide | probably left |
| 19:22.14 | Cide | actually can't do that |
| 19:22.18 | Cide | 12 chars is max length |
| 19:22.23 | Cide | that's way longer than the width of the minimap |
| 19:22.24 | KarlKFI|work | the Teams thing is repetitive |
| 19:22.29 | KarlKFI|work | remove it |
| 19:22.44 | Cide | seems unclear then |
| 19:23.03 | cog|work | "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." |
| 19:23.09 | Cide | done |
| 19:23.26 | KarlKFI|work | no no, the whole thing |
| 19:23.27 | cbreak | they get collected by the OS once they terminate |
| 19:23.36 | Cide | what about now? |
| 19:23.39 | KarlKFI|work | remove the text bellow it, you dont need it with the big VS thing |
| 19:23.42 | mikma | i'm outta here |
| 19:23.44 | Cide | yes I do |
| 19:23.56 | Lopeppeppy | Popping bubblewrap aggressively is the number 1 cause of workplace violence, alestane. |
| 19:23.57 | Cide | the vs is only clear if it's NvsN, for some integer N, 1-4 |
| 19:24.00 | Lopeppeppy | Facct. |
| 19:24.03 | mikma | has left #wowuidev (i hate cide) |
| 19:24.10 | KarlKFI|work | why's that? |
| 19:24.11 | alestane | Against anything besides the bubble wrap? |
| 19:24.11 | Cide | if it's 2v1v3v1v1 |
| 19:24.18 | cbreak | Cide: are you happy with the separation between the teams on the right side? |
| 19:24.19 | Cide | then the teams are not clear at all |
| 19:24.24 | KarlKFI|work | ah |
| 19:24.32 | Cide | I'm up for trying anything cbreak |
| 19:24.43 | Lopeppeppy | No, I think today I reserve my hate for catsitters and bubblewrap |
| 19:25.03 | alestane | Catsitters? |
| 19:25.13 | KarlKFI|work | how about move the whole map div tot he left die of the vs div. |
| 19:25.20 | KarlKFI|work | and lower it a tad |
| 19:25.22 | cog|work | Cide: i meant to have all of the text from "Twilight Fortress" through "Cide" share the same right alignment against the left edge of the image |
| 19:25.23 | KarlKFI|work | like a line break |
| 19:25.31 | cog|work | might be hard to accomplish if the image is just floating inline |
| 19:25.32 | cbreak | Cide: oh my... the right side vanishes instead of showing horizontal scroll bars |
| 19:25.43 | Cide | I know |
| 19:25.46 | cbreak | evil |
| 19:25.49 | KarlKFI|work | so the flat side of the map is next to the vs/left aligned text |
| 19:25.55 | Cide | it's because of the nature of the layout currently |
| 19:25.57 | Cide | I may fix it later |
| 19:26.37 | Cide | KarlKFI|work, not really sure what you mean |
| 19:26.51 | Cide | cog|work, ah |
| 19:27.00 | KarlKFI|work | Map | desc/vs |
| 19:27.01 | Cide | cog|work, only issue is that for the max length of names |
| 19:27.09 | KarlKFI|work | instead of desc/vs | Map |
| 19:27.11 | Cide | it's almost colliding as it is |
| 19:27.49 | Cide | refresh to see what I mean |
| 19:27.55 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, for vacation. I have to meet them tonight, etc etc. |
| 19:28.00 | Cide | KarlKFI|work, there will be tabs on the top left above the description |
| 19:28.04 | Cide | so there's less vertical space there |
| 19:28.11 | Cide | otherwise it seems it would be equivalent |
| 19:28.17 | KarlKFI|work | ah |
| 19:28.27 | Cide | I'll show you my concept |
| 19:28.28 | Cide | sec |
| 19:28.29 | Fisker | hey Cide |
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| 19:28.33 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 19:28.41 | alestane | Ah. Someone must watch cats during Pennsic. |
| 19:28.49 | alestane | Someone not the Peppy. |
| 19:29.18 | Cide | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/replay.jpg |
| 19:29.21 | Cide | in a sec |
| 19:29.27 | Cide | now |
| 19:29.47 | Cide | some minor changes have been made since that |
| 19:29.51 | Fisker | i don't get it Cide |
| 19:29.56 | Cide | what don't you get? |
| 19:30.05 | KarlKFI|work | cide: maybe put the description in a bordered box under the vs with a header like Description: in bold or another color |
| 19:30.23 | Cide | below all the players? |
| 19:30.27 | Fisker | 3v3 in a 4v4 with players playing against themselves |
| 19:30.43 | Cide | it's true, Fisker |
| 19:30.45 | Cide | it is confusing |
| 19:30.51 | KarlKFI|work | where is up for debate above ro bellow but wrap it ina pretty box with art |
| 19:31.00 | Cide | see http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/replay.jpg |
| 19:31.03 | Fisker | no wonder your sites always suck Cide |
| 19:31.04 | Cide | there's no space below it currently |
| 19:31.10 | Fisker | no userfriendlyness at all |
| 19:31.12 | Cide | it's fixed height |
| 19:32.11 | KarlKFI|work | as for the vs: you could make it more clear by boxing them or making more space around them. so that 2v1v3v1v1 would look clear, which would let you remove the 'teams' section |
| 19:32.52 | KarlKFI|work | shrink them when they're more players |
| 19:33.23 | KarlKFI|work | so that liek 2v2 and 4v4 take the same amount of space |
| 19:33.29 | Cide | don't like that approach |
| 19:33.31 | Cide | besides |
| 19:33.41 | KarlKFI|work | and if there's 4 teams you can make 4 quadrents |
| 19:33.45 | Cide | it'd be hard to find a way to lay it out so that all teams are beside each other |
| 19:33.48 | Cide | what if there are 7 teams? |
| 19:33.59 | KarlKFI|work | divide them up by side |
| 19:33.59 | Cide | or one team of 7 vs one player |
| 19:34.03 | Cide | it would be too tall |
| 19:34.06 | Cide | and look awkard |
| 19:34.07 | Cide | awkward |
| 19:34.42 | cbreak | looked at the in-game interface? |
| 19:34.52 | cbreak | list with grouping boxes |
| 19:34.54 | KarlKFI|work | use float and percentage width containers |
| 19:35.21 | alestane | pokes Lunessa. Double-check your macros! |
| 19:35.26 | Cide | don't really want to go for another approach of displaying teams |
| 19:35.49 | Cide | mostly just need to figure out how to make the information on the right side look more consistent |
| 19:35.51 | Cide | cbreak, I have |
| 19:36.12 | Cide | see http://81.26.239.34 |
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| 19:36.55 | KarlKFI|work | right well i think the 'teams' part is what causes a lot of the issue. it generates a lot of right aligned stuff with a jadged left side and then the vs also has a jagged right side |
| 19:37.17 | KarlKFI|work | so it looks messy |
| 19:38.03 | KarlKFI|work | you could try makign the teams part more square my left aligning and right alignign every other team |
| 19:38.27 | Cide | left aligning? |
| 19:38.28 | KarlKFI|work | and/or put it to the right of the map |
| 19:38.56 | nicoli_s | Cide:what is that for? |
| 19:39.04 | Cide | replay hosting site |
| 19:39.12 | nicoli_s | ahhh, gl :) |
| 19:39.16 | Cide | thanks |
| 19:39.16 | Morkesh | sweet |
| 19:39.16 | KarlKFI|work | i guess left alignign the teams would work if the team # is still right aligned |
| 19:39.20 | nicoli_s | have you looked at the replay files yet? |
| 19:39.31 | Morkesh | Lopeppeppy: found out it's piss easy to change the colors & the look of pallypower in the lua |
| 19:39.43 | Cide | nicoli_s, not really |
| 19:39.49 | Cide | why? |
| 19:39.53 | nicoli_s | just curious |
| 19:40.00 | KarlKFI|work | or make the team numbers bigger and move them to the left side and then left align the teams tot he right of the number |
| 19:40.27 | Lopeppeppy | Then that's your temporary solution, while you learn more about addon communication. Study things like PallyPower, oRA2, etc. |
| 19:40.51 | Morkesh | aye :) |
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| 19:41.08 | Morkesh | sorting it between wipes to crap mistakes -.- |
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| 19:42.03 | KarlKFI|work | cide: with you VS layout tho i think it would look better either big and centered or smaller and obviously offcenter |
| 19:42.30 | KarlKFI|work | right now it looks confused betweent eh two, slightly offcenter and too big |
| 19:43.41 | KarlKFI|work | if it's offcenter then make the map part wider maybe and lever with the VS. and if you want it centered then move the VS down and put the map and teams above it |
| 19:43.41 | Cide | what being big? |
| 19:44.08 | Cide | I have a hard to deciphering which part of the page you're talking about :P |
| 19:44.17 | Ackis | holy shit, doors and screens are expensive |
| 19:44.26 | Ackis | $400 for a cheap steel door w/ screen door |
| 19:44.51 | cog|work | "You can stand on the shoulders of giants OR a big enough pile of dwarfs, works either way." |
| 19:45.02 | Ackis | anyone want to buy hair/blood/semen/organs? |
| 19:45.03 | amro | Cide: the vs is closer to the right icon than the left |
| 19:45.20 | Cide | sorry but that's not the case |
| 19:45.31 | Morkesh | Ackis: i'll take your liver and your lungs |
| 19:45.31 | cog|work | Shirik__: is that a banana in your nick or are you just happy to see us? |
| 19:45.44 | Cide | well |
| 19:45.46 | Cide | I guess it kind of is |
| 19:45.49 | nevcairiel | lol cog |
| 19:45.51 | amro | it's way closer |
| 19:45.51 | Ackis | Morkesh: that'll be 1 billion dollars! |
| 19:45.52 | Cide | but that's because the protoss icon isn't as wide |
| 19:45.53 | amro | maybe only here |
| 19:45.57 | amro | let me make a screenshot |
| 19:46.04 | Cide | select the bottom protoss icon |
| 19:46.08 | Cide | and the top terran icon |
| 19:46.13 | Cide | the image edges are equidistant |
| 19:46.51 | amro | nope |
| 19:46.53 | amro | hang on |
| 19:47.17 | Lunessa | @focus macros, a more elegant coding standard for a more civilized age. |
| 19:47.48 | alestane | Hmm, Lunessa? |
| 19:48.23 | Lunessa | twisted sense of humor trying to play Star Wars quotes with somethign I saw. Low blood sugar probably isn't helping. |
| 19:48.23 | Morkesh | Ackis: did i mention i intend to pay in seashells and shiny rocks? |
| 19:48.47 | Ackis | oh :( |
| 19:48.58 | amro | Cide: http://www.mninja.org/images/sc2p.png |
| 19:49.05 | Shirik__ | In a tension pneumothorax, shifting of the mediastinum away from the site of the injury can obstruct the superior and inferior vena cava resulting in reduced venous return. |
| 19:49.12 | Shirik__ | why do medical terminology have to be so confusing |
| 19:49.18 | Cide | amro, ... |
| 19:49.23 | Cide | there are two rows |
| 19:49.24 | nicoli_s | so idiots dont think they can do it? |
| 19:49.29 | alestane | That's absolutely clear, Shirik__, that's the point. |
| 19:49.50 | cog|work | Shirik__: to make it simpler would be to introduce ambiguity |
| 19:49.52 | Cide | you have to measure the horizontal distance between the bottom left icon and the top right icon |
| 19:50.03 | cog|work | which is VERY bad when lives are on the line |
| 19:50.13 | KarlKFI|work | cide: so now move the desc and VS sections down |
| 19:50.20 | amro | I only see one row |
| 19:50.22 | KarlKFI|work | and center them |
| 19:50.24 | amro | where do you see a second row? |
| 19:50.32 | Cide | are you viewing the same replay? |
| 19:50.33 | Cide | http://81.26.239.34/replay/2010-06-25/nva-quality-rapotor-cid/ |
| 19:50.34 | alestane | It's not confusing at all; its obscurity stems from its abstruse precision. |
| 19:50.50 | amro | no |
| 19:50.52 | amro | Cide: http://81.26.239.34/replay/2010-06-25/artanis-cide/ |
| 19:50.59 | Shirik__ | abstruse? |
| 19:51.02 | Cide | there's your issue then |
| 19:51.12 | Cide | I know it's not properly aligned for one row |
| 19:51.32 | Shirik__ | I had a misalignment earlier today |
| 19:51.39 | Shirik__ | it caused some very interesting crashes |
| 19:51.46 | KarlKFI|work | actualyl the desc could stay were it is off center, just make it less wide than the VS part |
| 19:51.48 | Cide | stop trolling! |
| 19:51.58 | alestane | !dict abstruse |
| 19:52.08 | Shirik__ | s/!/~/ |
| 19:52.10 | alestane | ~dict abstruse |
| 19:52.23 | Shirik__ | its blind precision |
| 19:52.30 | Shirik__ | its covert precision |
| 19:52.30 | alestane | That's not a dictionary, it's a thesaurus. |
| 19:52.31 | Cide | KarlKFI|work, it is less wide |
| 19:52.34 | Shirik__ | lol |
| 19:52.42 | Shirik__ | it's also the worst thesaurus ever |
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| 19:52.44 | Ackis | so this guy who works with gears of war 2 said that for SDCC you'd get bonus xp based on how many followers he gets... for every follower it's an extra 1x, so at 5k followers it's 10x xp, etc... he's already at 10x xp, will be interesting to see how high he goes |
| 19:52.46 | KarlKFI|work | right but so it doesn't overlap the map text |
| 19:52.55 | Cide | it doesn't anymore |
| 19:52.56 | Cide | I moved it back |
| 19:52.56 | Shirik__ | like |
| 19:53.03 | Shirik__ | "formidable" "Hairy" "hid" "ideal" |
| 19:53.03 | alestane | But you could substitute "erudite" for"abstruse" and it would carry most of the same meaning. |
| 19:53.05 | Shirik__ | how are any of those related |
| 19:53.07 | KarlKFI|work | >.< |
| 19:53.09 | Shirik__ | ok |
| 19:53.14 | Shirik__ | now explain what erudite means |
| 19:53.15 | Shirik__ | :D |
| 19:53.24 | alestane | ~dict erudite |
| 19:53.25 | amro | Cide: the layout's also fixed at a fairly big size |
| 19:53.34 | Cide | amro, 1024px wide |
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| 19:53.40 | Cide | fuck 800 |
| 19:53.48 | Cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/user/ImprovEverywhere#p/u/23/i9iq9gdeIE4 |
| 19:53.50 | Cloudwolf | loool |
| 19:53.53 | alestane | Something you only know if you study the material in question, Shirik__. |
| 19:53.54 | amro | I'm a fan of flexible layouts |
| 19:54.01 | Cide | I'm a fan of good looking layouts |
| 19:54.09 | amro | alestane: also known as 'confusing' |
| 19:54.22 | amro | Cide: I never said fix it at 800px :P |
| 19:54.35 | Cide | good |
| 19:54.38 | Cide | I'm fixing it at 1024 |
| 19:54.43 | Cide | :P |
| 19:54.50 | amro | well, at least that's better than 800 |
| 19:54.59 | Cide | are you arguing for making it wider? |
| 19:55.06 | amro | not at all |
| 19:55.09 | amro | I just like resizing stuff |
| 19:55.17 | Cide | resizing is overrated |
| 19:55.22 | KarlKFI|work | not gonna be able to help you in text cide, i'd need to sketch it out |
| 19:55.25 | Shirik__ | Cloudwolf: Awesome |
| 19:55.29 | cbreak | amro: how do you like my page: http://the-color-black.net/blog/? :) |
| 19:55.36 | KarlKFI|work | and it's work time >.> |
| 19:55.41 | Lopeppeppy | google has a shared sketch feature now, KarlKFI|work! |
| 19:55.55 | KarlKFI|work | it does? |
| 19:56.00 | amro | just to be an ass cbreak, I'm gonna say the left bar isn't flexible. |
| 19:56.09 | cbreak | not intended to :) |
| 19:56.15 | Lopeppeppy | does, I tested it with The Boyfriend a few weeks back. |
| 19:56.21 | amro | yeah I know |
| 19:56.36 | Ackis | did you draw penises Lopeppeppy? |
| 19:56.38 | amro | though yours is not a centered layout so it's not a fair comparison to Cide's |
| 19:56.42 | amro | but yeah I like it |
| 19:56.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, Google Docs > Create New > ... drawing. |
| 19:56.48 | KarlKFI|work | sketchup is a 3d thing, that's not it is it? |
| 19:56.51 | KarlKFI|work | ahh |
| 19:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I'm going to draw you an oubliette. |
| 19:57.14 | Ackis | ~dict oubliette |
| 19:57.14 | amro | why not build one and throw him in there? |
| 19:57.15 | cbreak | centering stuff is a pain |
| 19:57.23 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: that's mean! |
| 19:57.30 | alestane | It's a place you put people and forget about them. |
| 19:57.38 | malreth | like Iowa |
| 19:57.38 | amro | hence the name |
| 19:57.52 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: your peanuts are ready! can you plant 3 eggplant? :D |
| 19:58.20 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think I have eggplants yet. |
| 19:58.23 | cog|work | j'ai oublié! |
| 19:58.24 | Lopeppeppy | And I picked the peanuts. |
| 19:58.45 | malreth | Blizzard should really capture the Farmville market by adding in a farming profession |
| 19:58.50 | *** part/#wowuidev Thaoky (Thaoky@145.51-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:59.00 | malreth | you get your own field, plant seeds, raise cows or sheep |
| 19:59.06 | KarlKFI|work | Lopeppeppy: is there a way to select part fo an image to move it like a freehand lasso? |
| 19:59.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | til someone comes and fireballs your field |
| 19:59.46 | sylvanaar_atwork | and kills your peons |
| 19:59.54 | cog|work | malreth: or make like Google and invest 200m into zynga |
| 19:59.56 | Lopeppeppy | For you Ackis, I did this. |
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| 20:00.12 | Lopeppeppy | KarlKFI|work, I'm not sure. I suck at freehand drawing, I didn't play all that much. |
| 20:00.42 | Ackis | yay Lopeppeppy! I watered them :D |
| 20:00.53 | malreth | sylvanaar_atwork: i guess blizzard will have to add guard towers and possibly a soldier's barracks |
| 20:01.04 | sylvanaar_atwork | hehe |
| 20:01.25 | malreth | and then you can have your peons mine gold and OH MY GOD I JUST THOUGHT OF THE GREATEST GAME EVER |
| 20:02.16 | Cide | thoughts on this? |
| 20:02.17 | Cide | http://81.26.239.34/replay/2010-06-25/nva-quality-rapotor-cid/ |
| 20:02.22 | Cide | not quite done with the changes |
| 20:02.29 | sylvanaar_atwork | malreth: sounsd original - sure to be ahit |
| 20:03.11 | Morkesh | Cide: i like it |
| 20:03.19 | amro | peons are overrated |
| 20:03.20 | amro | probes ftw |
| 20:03.24 | Cide | someone who saw the earlier stuff? |
| 20:03.28 | Cide | amro, KarlKFI|work, etc |
| 20:03.33 | Morkesh | i did see it :) |
| 20:03.33 | amro | looks better |
| 20:03.34 | malreth | Are the team names Welsh? |
| 20:03.38 | Morkesh | just didn't reply because of raiding |
| 20:03.46 | amro | but I'd say you need some kind of frame/box around the stuff on hte right |
| 20:04.07 | amro | also more padding on the right |
| 20:04.09 | Morkesh | or just a vertical bar like you top one would do it |
| 20:04.26 | Cide | sec |
| 20:04.32 | KarlKFI|work | cide: i still think the nake description looks sloppy |
| 20:04.34 | amro | noticed a small problem, you can't really tell the edge of the center box on the right because the background is black |
| 20:04.52 | KarlKFI|work | naked* |
| 20:05.12 | Cide | KarlKFI|work, it'll look better later |
| 20:05.26 | amro | naked usually looks better. |
| 20:05.27 | Cide | amro, not sure that is a problem? |
| 20:05.39 | amro | yeah it's not really a problem, just a minor thing |
| 20:05.53 | amro | but it bothers me when I look at the bottomright corner |
| 20:05.57 | amro | and it looks like there's no right edge |
| 20:06.04 | KarlKFI|work | also: isntead of putting winenr otn ehr ight you could slap some diagonal WINNAR! graphic on top of the team |
| 20:06.08 | KarlKFI|work | :) |
| 20:06.20 | Cide | needs to be hidden initially |
| 20:06.24 | amro | yep |
| 20:06.28 | KarlKFI|work | that's not hard |
| 20:06.49 | amro | the text disappeared when I click on Show |
| 20:06.58 | Cide | that was just me testing |
| 20:07.05 | Cide | Winner: Show hides it |
| 20:07.08 | Cide | Game Length: Show shows it |
| 20:07.20 | Cide | (with an animation I hope) |
| 20:07.27 | amro | yeah, animation works |
| 20:07.31 | amro | but I don't see any indication of winner |
| 20:07.33 | Cide | cheesy or good? |
| 20:07.36 | Cide | it's nyi |
| 20:07.43 | amro | it's good |
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| 20:07.58 | KarlKFI|work | i dotn see an animation |
| 20:08.05 | amro | upgrade your netscape |
| 20:08.11 | KarlKFI|work | it's FF |
| 20:08.25 | KarlKFI|work | and it shows a new blank page that jsut says "[object Object]" |
| 20:08.54 | cralor | what version of FF |
| 20:09.10 | KarlKFI|work | 3.5.9 |
| 20:09.16 | cralor | I have the same with Beta 4 |
| 20:09.27 | amro | must be a jquery bug |
| 20:09.37 | Cide | oh |
| 20:09.38 | Cide | sec |
| 20:10.29 | KarlKFI|work | prolyl want to lower the vs part down a bit too, so it's not encroachign on the desc |
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| 20:10.36 | KarlKFI|work | the spacing is kinda meh |
| 20:11.11 | KarlKFI|work | the horizonal rule onthe map part works tho |
| 20:12.07 | Cide | ok |
| 20:12.08 | Cide | better? |
| 20:12.36 | KarlKFI|work | um didn't change |
| 20:12.43 | Cide | in general |
| 20:12.43 | KarlKFI|work | oh you mean animation? |
| 20:12.46 | Cide | that too |
| 20:12.51 | Cide | been doing changes for some 5 mins |
| 20:13.00 | cralor | ya animation works |
| 20:13.02 | Cide | and does animation work for you now? |
| 20:13.06 | KarlKFI|work | ya |
| 20:13.15 | KarlKFI|work | winanr just moves it off screen |
| 20:13.18 | Cide | good |
| 20:13.24 | Cide | so does this look good? |
| 20:13.50 | KarlKFI|work | your last w of the bottom left player is overlappign the horizonal rule |
| 20:14.05 | Cide | ya |
| 20:14.09 | KarlKFI|work | and you should prolly separate the desc and the players |
| 20:14.16 | Cide | fixed |
| 20:14.20 | KarlKFI|work | with another line break ro two |
| 20:14.25 | Cide | not much room |
| 20:14.29 | Cide | but we'll see when tabs are in |
| 20:14.34 | Cide | also |
| 20:14.43 | Cide | should the icons be colored like here? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/replay.jpg |
| 20:14.54 | Cide | looks a bit too grey now |
| 20:14.55 | Cide | imo |
| 20:15.12 | malreth | Cide: http://skitch.com/fizzboy/dc1y6/sc2portal.net |
| 20:15.20 | KarlKFI|work | the white names look funny with the colors |
| 20:15.25 | KarlKFI|work | and that font is boring |
| 20:15.27 | Cide | refresh nubreth |
| 20:16.18 | Cide | boring? |
| 20:16.20 | KarlKFI|work | i'd say color the names the color the player was playing |
| 20:16.20 | malreth | Cide: i did... ... something-cide |
| 20:16.31 | Cide | malreth, it should no longer overlap now |
| 20:16.38 | KarlKFI|work | and maybe use a different more angular starcrafty font |
| 20:16.44 | KarlKFI|work | is possible |
| 20:16.45 | Cide | can't use a non-web font |
| 20:16.46 | KarlKFI|work | if* |
| 20:16.59 | malreth | i keep refreshing... it was worse earlier |
| 20:17.02 | KarlKFI|work | you can embed a free one cant you? |
| 20:17.03 | Morkesh | that line really helped |
| 20:17.07 | malreth | but there's still a bit of overlap |
| 20:17.26 | Cide | KarlKFI|work, maybe? never done that |
| 20:17.37 | Cide | how's the css support for that? |
| 20:17.47 | cog|work | "Debugging is like farting - it's not so bad when it's your own code." |
| 20:18.10 | KarlKFI|work | it's ccs3 cide |
| 20:18.16 | KarlKFI|work | so newer browsers only |
| 20:18.19 | Cide | so terrible |
| 20:18.20 | Cide | brb |
| 20:18.56 | KarlKFI|work | http://www.netmechanic.com/news/vol3/css_no15.htm |
| 20:19.02 | KarlKFI|work | you can do that for older ones |
| 20:19.09 | KarlKFI|work | but it's per browser encoding |
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| 20:20.38 | KarlKFI|work | FF 3.5+, Safari, and opera 10+ all support @font-face |
| 20:20.51 | malreth | fonts KarlKFI|work's face |
| 20:20.59 | KarlKFI|work | so you only have to degrade on IE |
| 20:21.24 | Lopeppeppy | That's a useful article to help my sheeple understand why their stuff doesn't work in various browsers... |
| 20:21.30 | cog|work | Cide: http://webfonts.fonts.com/ |
| 20:21.31 | cog|work | imo |
| 20:22.24 | KarlKFI|work | http://blog.themeforest.net/tutorials/css-font-face-and-15-free-fonts-you-can-use-today/ |
| 20:22.46 | KarlKFI|work | oh right chrome too |
| 20:23.07 | KarlKFI|work | webkit has supported it for a while |
| 20:24.22 | KarlKFI|work | anyway: you should figure out the different SC2 colors and make an icon for each race for each one (or make dynamic overlays on white ones) and then color the name and icon the color that the player was playing for that game |
| 20:24.56 | KarlKFI|work | that way you get color and it's not silly default colors with white text |
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| 20:31.37 | alestane | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs040.ash2/35379_461185597176_549122176_6551268_1287243_n.jpg |
| 20:32.37 | olafski | karlkfi|work: that page says IE has supported it since IE4 |
| 20:33.35 | olafski | hm maybe not entirely |
| 20:34.24 | KarlKFI|work | IE onyl supports Embedded OpenType, .eot |
| 20:34.49 | KarlKFI|work | you can use ttf with all the rest |
| 20:35.00 | olafski | ah.. still the usual css haxery then |
| 20:35.11 | amro | Cide: the bar color really isn't working |
| 20:35.30 | amro | you've got a nice bluish theme going, keep at it |
| 20:35.33 | malreth | Irony? Math professor is a 4-time lotto winner. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jecvf9AGaXeN-b30-F7_tji8TAhwD9GUCT3O0 |
| 20:36.16 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:37.40 | Dagmar | malreth: It's almost like the universe is saying "TAKE THAT!" |
| 20:39.08 | Fisker | , |
| 20:39.09 | Fisker | . |
| 20:39.11 | Fisker | æ |
| 20:39.12 | Fisker | l |
| 20:39.13 | Fisker | k |
| 20:39.51 | amro | it finally happened, fisker was eaten by a cat |
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| 20:44.35 | olafski | After all, the only way to win is to keep playing. Ginther is smart enough to know that's how you beat the odds |
| 20:44.47 | olafski | if you keep playing the odds of losing moneys are still the same aren't they :( |
| 20:48.38 | Niv | "There be funny stuff going on and an admin is digging deeper into the issue." |
| 20:48.42 | Niv | that's an awesome response |
| 20:48.43 | Niv | heh |
| 20:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | response to what? |
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| 20:51.06 | Satisfyme | the: InviteUnit does it returns nil if a player is not online or not exist ? |
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| 20:53.14 | Sentri | I think it never returns anything |
| 20:53.36 | Sentri | eg. return nil always |
| 20:53.54 | Sentri | correct me if I'm wrong |
| 20:54.14 | Niv | NightHawkTheSane: the login busy issue |
| 20:54.38 | nevcairiel | Yeah they are not as uptight on the beta forums |
| 20:54.54 | Niv | it's refreshing |
| 20:55.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Niv: neat. |
| 20:55.20 | cralor | link? |
| 20:55.30 | Satisfyme | hmm okay. gotta find another way to check if they are online before using that script then ;) |
| 20:55.35 | Niv | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969019792&sid=1&pageNo=7#127 |
| 20:55.49 | Satisfyme | back to the API list :P |
| 20:56.22 | Niv | nevcairiel: funny thing is |
| 20:56.23 | cralor | yay finally :P |
| 20:56.29 | Niv | that's the live forums |
| 20:56.35 | Niv | not the beta forums |
| 20:56.35 | nevcairiel | yeah i just noticed |
| 20:56.40 | cralor | yeah that's dumb -_- |
| 20:56.41 | nevcairiel | but its datth either way |
| 20:56.45 | Niv | yea |
| 20:56.56 | Niv | it's amusing he didn't tag the beta thread |
| 20:56.56 | Niv | heh |
| 20:56.56 | cralor | oh well :D |
| 20:57.46 | cralor | niv you should post link on beta thread |
| 20:58.35 | Niv | done |
| 20:58.41 | nevcairiel | why do people care so much about a respone, it won't be fixed faster by that :p |
| 20:58.47 | Niv | time for a meeting |
| 20:59.00 | Niv | nevcairiel: because they think that they are special unique snowflakes |
| 21:00.35 | amro | olafski: I'm pretty sure you lose more money if you keep playing |
| 21:00.55 | cralor | mostly because people just want recognition |
| 21:01.24 | nevcairiel | Its the beta. They want people to test. They will pay attention if it actually works. |
| 21:02.12 | cralor | yeah |
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| 21:04.55 | amro | cbreak: why do you suffix vars with _? |
| 21:05.22 | olafski | amro: yeah :P |
| 21:08.17 | Morkesh | nevcairiel: i like to receive a confirmation about the issue being acknowledged and looked into :P |
| 21:08.28 | nevcairiel | too bad, then |
| 21:08.39 | nevcairiel | I rather have people fixing then posting |
| 21:08.40 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 21:08.42 | Morkesh | narh, there's a blue reponse now, i'm satisfied :p |
| 21:08.48 | Morkesh | haha true that |
| 21:09.03 | nevcairiel | there haven been blue responses in the beta tech support forums all evening |
| 21:09.15 | Morkesh | but it's nice to know that they are aware about the problem instead of hoping that they are |
| 21:09.27 | nevcairiel | none said specifically that someone is working on it, but it implied that some blue saw it and forwareded it .. if not known already |
| 21:09.33 | Morkesh | i mean, some people can log in so i'd be more likely to think they'r busy fixing the stability |
| 21:09.48 | nevcairiel | I would hope thats their priority |
| 21:10.07 | nevcairiel | Login in doesnt help you if the server still crashes like this :d |
| 21:10.41 | Morkesh | hehe of course |
| 21:11.05 | Morkesh | WTS however much blood i contain, seeing how this raid will make me /wrist any minute now |
| 21:11.09 | nevcairiel | the login issue is probably just soem weird error on account flags or something |
| 21:11.38 | nevcairiel | seeing how its directly tied to accounts, someone that can login cannot from the same comp with another account |
| 21:12.40 | Cide | <amro> Cide: the bar color really isn't working |
| 21:12.40 | Cide | <amro> you've got a nice bluish theme going, keep at it |
| 21:12.45 | Cide | amro, it's too blue without it |
| 21:12.55 | malreth | CAT WANTS CAKE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDa5IO9ASoc |
| 21:13.06 | amro | did you try making it thinner at least? it seems too big |
| 21:13.19 | Cide | or do you propose the bar is blue whereas the top horizontal bar is red? |
| 21:16.06 | Cide | amro, better? |
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| 21:19.41 | amro | better |
| 21:19.49 | Kraps | heyhey |
| 21:19.50 | amro | only issue is that it looks different from the bottom border |
| 21:20.07 | amro | you should cut a slice of that and use it instead |
| 21:20.35 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968570540/developer-chat-on-twitter-7-16-10/ |
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| 21:23.19 | Cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/user/oldspice#p/u/15/GPlg9ez4L1w |
| 21:23.21 | Cloudwolf | lol wtf |
| 21:23.31 | Cloudwolf | these ads are so funny and random |
| 21:25.49 | nicoli_s | thats the thing with those ads, yeah they are funny, but once you have seen them 100x, you hate them |
| 21:27.54 | Ackis | anyone here named Tom that tried to talk to John a little while ago on Facebook? |
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| 21:29.56 | amro | Ackis: could you possibly have asked for two more generic names? |
| 21:30.12 | Ackis | lol |
| 21:30.41 | nicoli_s | amro:Ackis is john |
| 21:31.34 | Dashkal | woot, blues are working on the beta issue: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969019792&sid=1&pageNo=7#127 |
| 21:31.55 | Cloudwolf | Now if only the blues would work on the beta key to developers issue :D |
| 21:32.09 | Dashkal | Cloudwolf: One and the same |
| 21:32.23 | Dashkal | It's all (most?) recent keys. opt-in automatic ones and actual keys alike |
| 21:32.37 | Sentri | on what time zone are the beta servers? |
| 21:32.48 | amro | actual (metal) keys? |
| 21:33.00 | Cloudwolf | Hmm true. I would just prefer to install the content even if ic an't play so that i won't have to spend 3 hours dling the content when i could be playing :D |
| 21:33.01 | Dashkal | I didn't say physical :P |
| 21:33.05 | amro | aw |
| 21:33.14 | amro | I was imagining a bunch of blizzard devs locked out of the office. |
| 21:34.47 | Dashkal | that would be amusing |
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| 21:37.56 | Kraps | QQers have a point, theres no real "choice" in the new trees |
| 21:38.17 | Dashkal | define 'choice' |
| 21:38.18 | Cide | amro, changed |
| 21:38.40 | Dashkal | I find there is almost no choice in the live trees. You pick this cookie cutter or you're a newb. |
| 21:39.25 | Dagmar | You are listening to jackals and taking them seriously. |
| 21:39.50 | Dashkal | I was speaking with some hyperbole. I don't pug raid, and my raid leader isn't a jackass |
| 21:40.32 | Dagmar | Well, remind them that all fights aren't the same, so there's no reason to expect one build will be the most DPS every time |
| 21:40.54 | Dashkal | logic is wasted on that type. |
| 21:40.57 | Dashkal | This is going offtopic |
| 21:41.24 | Dashkal | More to the point, the choises at present are very often DPS vs DPS. Not exactly interesting since the math will ultimately work out one way or another. |
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| 21:42.57 | xqo | hey, what song is this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE2z2Avfo50#t=0m55s |
| 21:42.58 | Dashkal | Once I broke my "omg all talents in a pve build must be dps" mindset, the new trees looked more interesting. Do I want to move faster or do I want a little extra damage reduction? hmmmm |
| 21:43.46 | amro | Cide: yeah, that's great |
| 21:44.07 | Dashkal | That hypothetical choise would end up depending on if we're running out of healer mana or losing too much dps to movement. I like choises like that. |
| 21:46.41 | Kraps | Dashkal: what class do you play? |
| 21:47.06 | Cloudwolf | I like that theres less cookie cutter dps talents i dislike that it feels like some of the older builds (atleast for my rogue in pvp) have been eliminated |
| 21:47.08 | Dashkal | Kraps: DK, Druid (cat pve/boomkin pvp), Warlock, soon warrior |
| 21:47.17 | Cloudwolf | no longer a mutilation prep build |
| 21:47.17 | Ackis | is htere a slash command that will auto log your chat? |
| 21:47.40 | Dashkal | sheds a tear for Blood DPS |
| 21:47.46 | Dashkal | Gonna have to relearn unholy |
| 21:47.58 | Dashkal | At least they kept (a renamed) hysteria |
| 21:48.21 | Lunessa | Ackis: /chatlog |
| 21:48.25 | Cloudwolf | I play rogue primarily and i just got amage to 80 >.> |
| 21:48.26 | Ackis | thanks Lunessa |
| 21:48.46 | Dashkal | I want to play a mage, but I'm waiting for cata. Leveling one is too painful. kill, drink, kill, drink |
| 21:49.02 | Cloudwolf | meh it wasn't thaaat painfull but yes it was painfull |
| 21:49.07 | Cloudwolf | mana for kills trinket helps a lot |
| 21:49.29 | Dashkal | No, it wasn't drink every one. more like drink every three. still annoying |
| 21:49.40 | Cloudwolf | im saving leveling a priest for cata |
| 21:49.44 | Cloudwolf | worgen engineer priest lol |
| 21:49.49 | Dashkal | I'm spoiled by DK/Feral/Warrior. Very little downtime |
| 21:49.56 | Kraps | Dashkal: i'm just saying, Disc looks like theres only 1 viable spec, Elemental looks like you can jump around a bit |
| 21:50.02 | Dashkal | Worgen Transmuter Hunter :P |
| 21:50.05 | Cloudwolf | loli leveld a rogue its hard to deal with downtime |
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| 21:50.27 | Dashkal | Kraps: "viable" is not a word I'd use to judge any spec at present. It has little meaning with things so much in flux |
| 21:50.40 | Kraps | true |
| 21:51.10 | Dashkal | I'm more interested in playstyle. Rotations. "flow". etc |
| 21:51.18 | Dashkal | s/./,/g |
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| 21:51.50 | cbreak | amro: only members |
| 21:52.11 | amro | why's that? |
| 21:52.22 | Dashkal | The reason I loved blood DK DPS so much was of the three dps specs, it was the one I could most click into. Once I got going, it sent smoothly. I always had trouble getting there with unholy (and I don't like DW frost) |
| 21:52.26 | cbreak | I prefix it in newer apps |
| 21:52.29 | cbreak | also, only in C++ |
| 21:52.39 | Xyphoid | levelling blood was great |
| 21:52.43 | cbreak | if I have a member _abc, I can make a method abc() to get it |
| 21:52.58 | amro | why not getAbc()? |
| 21:53.01 | Kraps | blood is virtually nonstop |
| 21:53.07 | cbreak | because it's ugly |
| 21:53.08 | amro | it makes it clear it's only a getter |
| 21:53.15 | Cloudwolf | I wonder if blood is going to be even more viable in pvp now that its tanking? |
| 21:53.16 | amro | what if you have a member _count? |
| 21:53.22 | amro | count() implies actual counting, not fetching of a count |
| 21:53.28 | cbreak | no |
| 21:53.39 | Dashkal | Kraps: I liked that. I kind of like my rotations a bit hectic. Not sheding tears for some of the super-maintainency things, though. Rune strike can DIAF. |
| 21:53.41 | cbreak | it implies that you want count |
| 21:54.03 | amro | so do you prefix your methods that do stuff with do? |
| 21:54.06 | Dashkal | I also play cat dps. Same concept :P |
| 21:54.10 | amro | as in doCount()? |
| 21:54.17 | cbreak | sometimes |
| 21:54.24 | amro | now that's ugly : |
| 21:54.26 | amro | :P |
| 21:54.29 | cbreak | not really |
| 21:54.38 | amro | also inconsistent if you only do it sometimes |
| 21:54.50 | cbreak | I only do it if it makes sense |
| 21:55.01 | cbreak | "do" doesn't make sense |
| 21:55.03 | Dashkal | Cloudwolf: hmm, interesting concept. I'll have to look into that |
| 21:55.20 | amro | verb() as a getter doesn't make sense either |
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| 21:55.34 | cbreak | why not? |
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| 21:55.52 | amro | because it implies that it will verb |
| 21:55.58 | amro | get is a special, common verb |
| 21:56.04 | amro | it means no calculations |
| 21:56.09 | cbreak | why? |
| 21:56.11 | amro | it means call me as often as you want |
| 21:56.16 | cbreak | accessors are for abstraction |
| 21:56.24 | cbreak | they can do what ever they want |
| 21:56.42 | cbreak | it doesn't mean that there is actually an internal corresponding variable |
| 21:56.43 | amro | that's nice on paper |
| 21:56.50 | cbreak | encapsulation is basic OO... |
| 21:57.12 | Kraps | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/84615/blood-and-thunder/ looks really cool |
| 21:57.23 | malreth | i prefer noun() for getters and setNoun() for setters |
| 21:57.34 | cbreak | exactly what I use |
| 21:58.00 | amro | malreth: what happens when you have a noun that doubles as a verb? (like count) |
| 21:58.18 | malreth | and notTooWordyVerbPhrase() for methods that are used for their side-effects |
| 21:58.41 | cbreak | stuff that has no side effects is () const |
| 21:59.19 | malreth | amro: generally, if your code is self-documenting, count() will look correct in context |
| 21:59.32 | malreth | otherwise, amount() works just as well |
| 21:59.40 | cbreak | take a look at Qt :) |
| 21:59.45 | amro | malreth: it's not about correctness, it's about knowing at a glance what the method does |
| 21:59.46 | cbreak | all containers support count() |
| 21:59.46 | malreth | or numberOfWidgets() |
| 22:00.16 | Xuerian | Wave 2 key works now, fyi. |
| 22:00.33 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, wonder if that means mine does now too... |
| 22:00.37 | cbreak | and it's obvious what it does. it returns the count. |
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| 22:00.47 | cbreak | in some classes it's probably implemented as calculation |
| 22:00.56 | cbreak | in others as simple returning a stored value |
| 22:01.01 | amro | I didn't say what it returns |
| 22:01.02 | cbreak | but that's irelevant |
| 22:01.06 | amro | it's totally relevant |
| 22:01.09 | cbreak | nope |
| 22:01.11 | amro | yes |
| 22:01.14 | cbreak | completely irelevant |
| 22:01.20 | amro | I'm sorrry |
| 22:01.25 | amro | maybe you don't care about performance, but I do |
| 22:01.35 | cbreak | implementation details are implementation details |
| 22:01.52 | amro | break out of academia and start living in the real world |
| 22:01.58 | cbreak | they are encapsulated behind the interface |
| 22:02.04 | cbreak | oh, I live in the real world :) |
| 22:02.14 | cbreak | I work as programmer there |
| 22:02.30 | amro | so? why can't an interface set guidelines for the implementation? calculating and returning cached values, HUGE DIFFERENCE there |
| 22:02.38 | cbreak | although, maybe Disney Research counts as Academia to you because we're a research group |
| 22:02.39 | amro | one I have to be careful about calling, another I can call whenever |
| 22:03.01 | cbreak | not really |
| 22:03.08 | cbreak | you can call both if you want what it does |
| 22:03.20 | cbreak | just look at Qt. |
| 22:03.29 | cbreak | it's popular for a reason |
| 22:03.30 | amro | calculating and returning a value are not the same operation |
| 22:03.49 | cbreak | of course not. first you calculate something, then you return the value |
| 22:03.54 | amro | and Qt isn't popular for its naming conventions |
| 22:04.29 | amro | anyway, if I'm running code every frame in a game, there's a huge difference between count and getCount |
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| 22:04.44 | amro | I'm speaking from experience |
| 22:04.52 | cbreak | not really. both are O(1) |
| 22:05.20 | malreth | uh oh... here come the big o's |
| 22:05.27 | cbreak | it doesn't matter if you return an internal counter, or return the difference between _data and _dataEnd |
| 22:05.31 | Ackis | show me your O face!!! |
| 22:05.35 | Ackis | nicoli_s: ^ |
| 22:05.36 | amro | here you're assuming implementation details |
| 22:05.50 | malreth | my O face is (log n) |
| 22:05.55 | cbreak | if that would matter, you wouldn't use method calls because they are too expensive... |
| 22:06.23 | amro | again you're assuming implementation details |
| 22:06.33 | amro | and that was just a simple example using count |
| 22:06.43 | cbreak | I am not assuming anything |
| 22:06.44 | NightHawkTheSane | my O face is (n log -1) |
| 22:06.48 | cbreak | I _know_ |
| 22:06.49 | amro | you are assuming everything |
| 22:07.22 | amro | you assume you know what kind of container I'm talking about, and exactly what count does on said container |
| 22:07.26 | Bechster | any way to monitor a fontstring for changes? |
| 22:07.31 | lowlee | woot thanks Xuerian for advising :) |
| 22:07.34 | malreth | amro, cbreak, you two should get married. |
| 22:07.50 | cbreak | I know the complexity of methods I call because I am able to read documentation |
| 22:08.00 | cbreak | I am not like you wildly guessing and handwaving around |
| 22:08.09 | amro | apparently you don't read dictionaries because you don't know the meaning of "at a glance" |
| 22:08.16 | amro | I'm done |
| 22:08.16 | cbreak | and pretending to know I understand the implementation from the word type used to name the member function |
| 22:08.24 | Xuerian | Does anyone remember that chick that got linked in chat earlier, doing youtube videos? Did anyone watch the arguments one? |
| 22:08.28 | amro | I don't appreciate the hostility by the way |
| 22:08.29 | amro | and I'm done |
| 22:08.35 | malreth | is the nerdfight over? |
| 22:08.41 | cbreak | but apparently you prefer to read english dictionaries than api docs |
| 22:08.50 | amro | yeah you can put away the popcorn malreth |
| 22:09.00 | cbreak | so I am done too |
| 22:09.10 | cbreak | and I don't appreciate your personal attacks |
| 22:09.12 | NightHawkTheSane | amro: you should chill out, hes not really being that hostile. |
| 22:09.34 | NightHawkTheSane | besides, you're both arguing on the internet, you should know better than to assume this will end well. |
| 22:09.38 | amro | NightHawkTheSane: I don't appreciate the implication that I'm unable to read documentation |
| 22:09.45 | amro | I count that as hostile |
| 22:09.51 | amro | anyway, gotta finish this mentalist episode |
| 22:10.24 | malreth | http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/06/steak-and-eggs-with-smoked-paprika-recipe.html |
| 22:10.47 | malreth | i'm gonna make that tonight and totally get laid |
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| 22:11.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm mildly jealous. |
| 22:11.54 | malreth | later |
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| 22:14.17 | Dashkal | Beta appears to be working |
| 22:14.23 | Dashkal | I'm logging in now |
| 22:14.51 | alestane | It's been sort-of working for me all day. |
| 22:14.52 | Dashkal | And I'm in Dalaran |
| 22:15.01 | alestane | But never for very long. |
| 22:15.18 | Dashkal | I've had the login server busy error all day |
| 22:15.31 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: well i suspect he means for the funky-beta-key issue |
| 22:15.44 | Bechster | oooh :D |
| 22:15.55 | Xuerian | Aiegh. The DX11 mode really isn't optimized at all, yet. or I need to update drivers, one or the other. |
| 22:15.55 | Bechster | working for Wowi keys now! |
| 22:16.38 | Dashkal | My forum account is still broked it seems |
| 22:19.01 | Kraps | newsflash @ parents: i have email here and upstate! |
| 22:21.41 | Dashkal | Do we have a UI guild on the PvE realm? |
| 22:22.06 | Ericpeeg | Secure Hooker, I believe |
| 22:22.12 | ScytheBlade1 | apparently docsis 3.0 is 3.5mbit |
| 22:22.14 | ScytheBlade1 | go comcast! |
| 22:22.26 | Ericpeeg | er, Hookers, I think |
| 22:22.31 | NightHawkTheSane | that sounds... low? |
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| 22:22.45 | ScytheBlade1 | yes. |
| 22:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | very. |
| 22:22.47 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 22:23.22 | Kraps | i wish for a beta key /eats pizza |
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| 22:24.01 | Niv | horay I can login |
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| 22:24.23 | Pytlask | thinks the guild name is absolutely hilarious |
| 22:27.05 | Kalroth | ScytheBlade1: Wut, my docsis 3.0 runs at 50mbit and the standard goes to something like 200mbit :) |
| 22:27.21 | Bechster | Ericpeeg: on EU? |
| 22:27.34 | Kalroth | You definitely got a gnome nibbling away on your cables |
| 22:27.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh I know |
| 22:28.27 | Xuerian | hookers is us-alliance? >_> |
| 22:28.56 | Niv | horay, world server is down, hahaha |
| 22:29.02 | Niv | I figured they'd solve that first |
| 22:31.49 | Kraps | even old zones are getting new music? |
| 22:31.53 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25969520804/any-new-music-in-cataclysm/ |
| 22:34.30 | Bechster | so uhm, any addon developer guild for EU yet? |
| 22:34.49 | kd3 | hop on lost isles? we're all linked, after all |
| 22:35.06 | Bechster | what do you mean k3d? |
| 22:35.32 | Xuerian | kd3: Alliance? |
| 22:35.46 | kd3 | iirc, yah. it's "Secure Hookers" |
| 22:36.04 | Bechster | yeah that's the US one i thought? |
| 22:36.04 | Xuerian | Blasted alliance >_o |
| 22:36.23 | Ericpeeg | Bechster: Sorry - it's US. It was referenced in a post on the WoWI forums |
| 22:36.26 | kd3 | yeah, but instead of logging in to mekkatorque, you can change realms and log in to lost isles |
| 22:36.38 | kd3 | eu/us/kr are all in the same battlegroup for beta |
| 22:36.58 | Bechster | arh yeah |
| 22:39.20 | Bechster | buu |
| 22:39.22 | Bechster | no one online |
| 22:39.35 | kd3 | because lost isles keeps crashing, mainly |
| 22:39.41 | kd3 | ah the joys of world server iffiness |
| 22:39.44 | Bechster | arh |
| 22:39.54 | Bechster | i had both my characters stuck in orgrimmar because it died :( |
| 22:39.57 | Bechster | back up now though |
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| 22:41.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 22:41.21 | alestane | pounces on the Peppy. |
| 22:41.28 | alestane | Did you meet the catsitters yet? |
| 22:43.43 | Bechster | nope? |
| 22:46.51 | orionshock | so is the UI guild on the eu server or the US one? |
| 22:46.57 | Bechster | US |
| 22:47.00 | Bechster | on lost isles |
| 22:47.04 | Cide | http://81.26.239.34/replay/2010-06-25/nva-quality-rapotor-cid/ |
| 22:47.06 | Cide | amro, ^ |
| 22:47.19 | Lopeppeppy | I did, alestane, and Rosie loves her! Came right up and was all demanding of the pets. |
| 22:47.51 | amro | Cide: did you change anything other than the names? |
| 22:47.58 | Cide | just the Teams stuff |
| 22:47.58 | amro | it looks different but I can't tell |
| 22:48.01 | Bechster | where Lopeppeppy? |
| 22:48.11 | Cide | now it says Team X:\n <players> |
| 22:48.27 | amro | ah yeah |
| 22:48.31 | Lopeppeppy | Up in the wilds of northern new york. |
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| 22:49.14 | Bechster | Lopeppeppy: haha :P i'm so confused by all the newness of cata |
| 22:50.03 | orionshock | is anyone online that is in the author's guild? |
| 22:51.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm still struggling with patching, my laptop despises applying WoW patches. Pitches a fit every single time. |
| 22:51.24 | foxlit | Cide: the spacial arrangement of names makes it utterly unclear whether it is the columns or rows that represent the same team |
| 22:51.44 | Cide | foxlit, good catch |
| 22:52.38 | Cide | not sure how to fix it yet |
| 22:53.01 | Cide | maybe each team should get a slight tint |
| 22:53.04 | foxlit | Either spacing or some form of visual separator |
| 22:53.11 | Xuerian | Vertically or horizontally space them, at minimum. |
| 22:53.20 | Xuerian | Whichever direction they're supposed to be. |
| 22:53.31 | Ericpeeg | Cide: some sort of shading for one team? |
| 22:53.38 | Cide | <Cide> maybe each team should get a slight tint |
| 22:53.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8JsvwUcok0 |
| 22:53.47 | Lopeppeppy | I should seriously just buy windows 7 and wipe this freakin' computer blank! |
| 22:53.54 | Cide | yes you should Lopeppeppy |
| 22:54.30 | Dashkal | hmm, I take it revive pet is bugged for newbie hunters? |
| 22:55.00 | Lopeppeppy | This would not surprise me. Make sure to put in a bug report! |
| 22:55.03 | Xuerian | Also, Cide, why is it .replay>.players>.left>.player_left/.player_right? Shouldn't it be .player_top and player_bottom in that layout? |
| 22:55.16 | Cide | no? |
| 22:55.22 | Cide | teams are a column |
| 22:55.26 | Dashkal | Bug reporting is one thing, hammering them with known issues is another |
| 22:55.40 | Dashkal | huh, alt-left click is bugged on the spellbook. nice |
| 22:55.50 | Lopeppeppy | check the forum first |
| 22:55.55 | Cide | player_left means it's slightly more to the left |
| 22:55.58 | Cide | player_right slightly more to the right |
| 22:55.59 | ScytheBlade1 | someone needs to watch that video that I just linked |
| 22:56.06 | Cide | (50px) |
| 22:56.16 | Xuerian | Cide: If that makes sense to you. (rhetorical, it clearly does) |
| 22:56.26 | Cide | it doesn't to you? |
| 22:56.56 | Xuerian | No, because the bigger difference in positioning is vertical, not horizontal. Additionally, they are vertically stacked against another column vertically stacked, and the columns are noted as left and right |
| 22:57.07 | Cide | well I'm fixing it so it's more clear |
| 23:00.36 | Xuerian | Cide: Reducing right column width by 40 and left blocks width by 40 should do the trick for making the teams [more] obvious |
| 23:00.50 | Cide | there isn't 40px to take from the right column |
| 23:01.06 | Cide | there's like 10-20px at most |
| 23:01.50 | Xuerian | shrugs. |
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| 23:04.40 | eidolarr | Xinhuan: I have a question about git, from something you said a few days ago |
| 23:04.46 | Cide | better, Xinhuan? |
| 23:06.10 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWCVhGzrAT0 |
| 23:06.11 | A-KO | THIS |
| 23:06.12 | A-KO | IS |
| 23:06.12 | A-KO | WIN |
| 23:07.27 | Cide | question |
| 23:07.30 | Cide | should game length be hidden? |
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| 23:09.55 | Ericpeeg | Cide: Does knowing game length add something to the viewer? And along the same lines, does it somehow give information that's deleterious to the players? |
| 23:10.07 | Cide | I'm aware of the consideration |
| 23:10.18 | Cide | I'm asking you for an opinion not a philosophy lecture :) |
| 23:10.27 | Ericpeeg | I'd say show it. |
| 23:10.31 | Cide | me too |
| 23:10.44 | Cide | it's visible in-game if you choose to download it anyway |
| 23:11.02 | Ericpeeg | players could have agreed to be AFK for the first 30 mins... |
| 23:11.07 | Ericpeeg | dunno why... |
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| 23:26.34 | Kraps | woah markbar was updated |
| 23:27.12 | Lopeppeppy | is counting update percents. Gosh, hurry up, internets! |
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| 23:27.53 | Bechster | it's up Mirrormn :D |
| 23:28.03 | Mirrormn | wut is? |
| 23:28.06 | Bechster | beta |
| 23:28.07 | Mirrormn | betatown? |
| 23:28.34 | Mirrormn | wonderful! |
| 23:28.38 | Bechster | indeed |
| 23:28.56 | Mirrormn | but, I have dinner to make, chores to do, etc. =/ |
| 23:29.02 | Mirrormn | and raid in an hour |
| 23:29.23 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft |
| 23:29.33 | NightHawkTheSane | raid, who needs raids, there's beta! |
| 23:30.02 | Mirrormn | I also forgot to copy a character last night cause I'm a dummy |
| 23:31.45 | Mirrormn | huh, I guess character copying is instant! |
| 23:31.49 | Mirrormn | that's unexpected |
| 23:32.24 | Lopeppeppy | sometimes it works very well indeed. |
| 23:32.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine the load for the beta servers is not terribly high |
| 23:32.40 | NightHawkTheSane | unlike, say, ptrs. |
| 23:33.45 | Mirrormn | bwaahh |
| 23:33.48 | Mirrormn | world server down |
| 23:34.12 | Mirrormn | well that was fun for about 4 seconds anyway |
| 23:34.30 | Mirrormn | also my character on my character select screen just like cast a fireblast at me |
| 23:34.38 | Mirrormn | which is quite groovy |
| 23:36.14 | Bechster | anyone online who can invite? |
| 23:36.20 | Bechster | to secure hookers :P |
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| 23:37.23 | Kalroth | as opposed to insecure? :) |
| 23:38.02 | Lopeppeppy | Needy. |
| 23:38.27 | NeoTron | Mirrormn: especially exciting since your character is a warrior? ;-) |
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| 23:45.24 | Mirrormn | <Secure Hookers>? is that beta dev guild? |
| 23:47.42 | Shadowed | yes |
| 23:48.07 | Maldivia | should probably get my char in that guild as well at some point :P |
| 23:49.14 | Bechster | no one online to invite :( |
| 23:49.38 | NeoTron | did they get a guild ui yet? |
| 23:50.02 | Bechster | haha good question :D |
| 23:50.33 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa was saying earlier today that there was no guild ui yet |
| 23:51.00 | Maldivia | to repeat myself: archaeology, compact raid, guild control, guild and reforging are still marked insecure |
| 23:51.54 | Pytlask | Shouldn't matter if they're marked as insecure though. They're loading anyway, aren't they? |
| 23:52.59 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, Maldivia.. is the guild ui enabled yet? |
| 23:53.15 | Maldivia | Pytlask: addons are disabled on beta |
| 23:53.25 | Maldivia | Pytlask: meaning only blizzard secure addons are loaded |
| 23:53.31 | Pytlask | Pytlask: Oh, so you can't open the Guild UI or anything? |
| 23:53.40 | Maldivia | bingo |
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| 23:54.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: i think the bit about "only secure blizz addons are available while addons are disabled" is the part people are missing when you say that repeatedly :) |
| 23:55.14 | Maldivia | NHTS: I'll add that for next repeat :P |
| 23:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | also, Pytlask did you ping yourself there? :P |
| 23:56.26 | Mirrormn | mage ward? what in the world is mage ward? |
| 23:56.49 | NightHawkTheSane | final also! how the fuck has fedex NOT delivered my package yet. It's been marked as "on fedex vehicle for delivery" since bloody 7:40 am |
| 23:57.00 | NightHawkTheSane | it's freaking 5pm! what was the guy doing, getting high for six hours? |
| 23:57.26 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzxZRKIi1Fs < pure win |
| 23:57.31 | Mirrormn | he's just delivering packages to people he likes more than you |
| 23:57.57 | NightHawkTheSane | clearly. i've been pretty vocal about how much i want to murder the fedex guy |
| 23:57.58 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, last I knew they couldn't go home until their truck was empty, so he'll get there. *hugs* |
| 23:58.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: oh, thats entirely not true, i've had them just not even try and knock/buz, and just leave a note and run away. >< |
| 23:59.45 | A-KO | Old Spice man sent Alyssa Milano some flowers |
| 23:59.46 | A-KO | lol |
| 23:59.51 | A-KO | that's awesome |
