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| 00:04.59 | Shirik | why realid is evil: |
| 00:05.10 | Shirik | Esamynn|Away can say "you fail at life" not only cross-realm, but cross-game |
| 00:11.02 | tem | Shirik, I need to realid you |
| 00:11.11 | Shirik | I already realided you |
| 00:11.13 | Shirik | and you were like nana |
| 00:11.16 | tem | no? |
| 00:11.19 | Shirik | yes? |
| 00:11.20 | tem | I didn't get it |
| 00:11.25 | tem | it must have bugged |
| 00:11.47 | Shirik | would we like to make it... dance? |
| 00:11.57 | Shirik | would we? would we? Tell us, what we would like to do! |
| 00:12.03 | Shirik | burn it, burn it all! |
| 00:15.25 | Thunder_Child | i would realid Shirik but i dont trust him with my name |
| 00:15.40 | Shirik | what makes you think I don't already have it |
| 00:15.59 | Thunder_Child | because you dont care enough |
| 00:16.16 | Shirik | :/ |
| 00:21.32 | Shirik | ~weather 4S2 |
| 00:21.40 | Shirik | YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT |
| 00:21.51 | Kalroth | why so angry |
| 00:21.53 | Thunder_Child | dont talk to purl like that Shirik |
| 00:22.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:22.47 | Shirik | they don't supply METAR data :( |
| 00:22.48 | Shirik | 4S2 |
| 00:22.49 | Shirik | No METAR observation from 4S2 is available in our system. |
| 00:23.09 | Shirik | wait wait |
| 00:23.13 | Shirik | ~weather K4S2 |
| 00:23.23 | Dagmar | There you go. |
| 00:23.23 | Shirik | uh |
| 00:23.26 | Shirik | no |
| 00:23.32 | Shirik | it is definitely not 33F |
| 00:23.47 | Shirik | And that data is from 2008 |
| 00:23.47 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:23.53 | Shirik | 2008/01/06 17:30 K4S2 061730Z 00000KT 10SM SCT011 SCT055 BKN110 01/00 A2964 RMK FROM 4S2 AUTO |
| 00:23.57 | Shirik | but it says "FROM 4S2" |
| 00:24.02 | Shirik | so 4S2 should be supplying data somewhere |
| 00:24.53 | Shirik | ah they took down that station |
| 00:25.07 | Shirik | ~weather KCZK |
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| 01:07.46 | jnwhiteh | Funkeh`: okay, thanks. |
| 01:15.43 | ScytheBlade1 | anyone aware of a micro-ATX board that has 0 PCI slots, and at least 2 x4 PCIe slots? |
| 01:18.03 | Shirik | why 0 PCI slots? |
| 01:18.28 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: Newegg |
| 01:18.58 | Dagmar | Multiple PCIe slots aren't that uncommon, but good luck finding a board with _no_ PCI slots. |
| 01:19.11 | ScytheBlade1 | well, micro-ATX, and PCI sucks |
| 01:19.22 | Arrowmaster | things tend to have either 16x or 1x PCIe slots unless you are specifically looking for highend stuff |
| 01:19.22 | ScytheBlade1 | PCI = slot that will never be used and space taken up |
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| 01:19.53 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i have no PCI slots but my board isnt a micro-ATX |
| 01:20.08 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well feel free to tell him where you can buy yours |
| 01:20.12 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121386 |
| 01:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | is about the closest I can find |
| 01:20.38 | ScytheBlade1 | if it had 4 x4 slots, that would be ideal |
| 01:20.53 | Arrowmaster | wont happen |
| 01:21.07 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah I know |
| 01:21.23 | Arrowmaster | you wont find a board without a 16x slot |
| 01:21.43 | Shirik | ~wiki Pesticles |
| 01:21.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I know, but that sucks up all of the bandwidth for the other slots, so you get things like x16, x1, x1, PCI |
| 01:21.52 | Arrowmaster | although maybe you can find one that will run the 16x slot lower than 16x if you put cards in all the other slots |
| 01:22.47 | Dagmar | Intel's the only company I know of that's come out and said they're dropping PCI. |
| 01:23.07 | Dagmar | ...but they probably won't be discarding it from all their boards for some time |
| 01:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I don't much care about the entire company dropping PCI |
| 01:23.24 | ScytheBlade1 | just a board that has 4x PCIe slots as opposed to any PCI slots |
| 01:23.44 | Arrowmaster | ive got a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131390 |
| 01:23.54 | Arrowmaster | its got two NF200's on it |
| 01:24.18 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah needs to be micro atx |
| 01:25.52 | Dagmar | WHat do you need four of them for anyway? |
| 01:26.13 | ScytheBlade1 | NICs and SATA controllers |
| 01:26.54 | Dagmar | That's nuts. |
| 01:27.26 | Dagmar | Drop the microATX form factor requirement and you can find boards with 4 PCIe x16's |
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| 01:27.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Then it won't fit in a the physical space I have |
| 01:27.50 | Dagmar | It's seriously not rational to go for microATX if your goal is to load a machine to the gills with drives |
| 01:28.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Why do you say that? |
| 01:28.49 | Dagmar | Because the space just eight drives will take up will blow it's size requirement out of the water |
| 01:29.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Not if you're designing the case |
| 01:29.16 | Dagmar | Then you can surely handle an ATX board |
| 01:29.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Not for the *available physical space* |
| 01:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Case is sitting at 18.5" wide, 10" deep and 10" high |
| 01:30.17 | Dagmar | Looks like you're screwed then |
| 01:30.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Nah, it'll work |
| 01:30.36 | ScytheBlade1 | 4 x4 PCIe lanes is ideal, not required |
| 01:31.10 | Dagmar | ...and ATX will fit into that space. |
| 01:31.20 | Dagmar | 305mmx244mm |
| 01:31.30 | ScytheBlade1 | board is laying horizontally |
| 01:31.51 | ScytheBlade1 | case is 2x 5" high units |
| 01:32.01 | Dagmar | I suppose if you call up Foxconn and ask them nicely and offer them a lot of money they'll cook you up a custom board |
| 01:32.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, pass |
| 01:32.46 | Dagmar | I'm trying to think if I've seen anyone making PCIe bridge cards |
| 01:32.46 | Dagmar | One of those might work |
| 01:32.51 | Thunder_Child | cheaper to buy a new case |
| 01:33.26 | ScytheBlade1 | If you can find a case that'll slot 12 drives in 18.5" x 10" x 10" then I'm interested |
| 01:33.45 | ScytheBlade1 | because I can do that now |
| 01:33.53 | Thunder_Child | you mean you have a physical size limitation for the case? |
| 01:33.57 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
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| 01:34.16 | Thunder_Child | does it need to be a computer or will a nas work? |
| 01:34.32 | Dagmar | Crap like this is why SAS was invented. |
| 01:34.57 | Dagmar | ...well, aside from that you can get people to pay serious dollars for anything "data center-y" |
| 01:35.15 | Thunder_Child | really? |
| 01:35.22 | Thunder_Child | well, my balls are data center-t |
| 01:35.23 | ScytheBlade1 | computer would be optimal, all of the NAS/SAN devices were WAY too expensive for my liking |
| 01:35.29 | Thunder_Child | s/-t/-y/ |
| 01:35.41 | Shirik | Amazon S3 |
| 01:35.42 | Shirik | gogo |
| 01:35.54 | Dagmar | I've not had a chance to tear one open, but when I look at a SAS disk I'm pretty sure they're just 2.5" drives like what normally goes in a notebook, beefed up for higher spin rates and in a fancy enclosure |
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| 01:36.59 | A-KO | sas drives are kinda pricey |
| 01:37.00 | A-KO | just a tad |
| 01:37.03 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: if i absolutly had to, i would make it myself. plexiglass ftw |
| 01:37.12 | Dagmar | A-KO: Oh yeah |
| 01:37.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: that's exactly what is happening. I found a place online that'll slice up some plexi with a laser for about $40. |
| 01:37.42 | Thunder_Child | but i would still make it a nas |
| 01:37.47 | Dagmar | We've got a few machines here with 2-8 SAS disks in them and they're hella expensive |
| 01:38.02 | Thunder_Child | why bother sticking all the computer stuff in there as well |
| 01:38.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Price point |
| 01:38.44 | A-KO | just get yourself a decent battery-backed write-cache raid controller, raid 6 |
| 01:38.44 | Thunder_Child | i mean build your own nas vs your own comp |
| 01:38.46 | A-KO | and a bunch of sata drives |
| 01:38.55 | A-KO | you can get sata breakout cables for sas controllers |
| 01:38.56 | ScytheBlade1 | that is functionally what it is |
| 01:38.57 | Thunder_Child | is this space in a desk ScytheBlade1? |
| 01:39.02 | Dagmar | ...or just buy something EonStor makes |
| 01:39.04 | A-KO | the controller will cost quite a penny |
| 01:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | nah, a cupboard actually |
| 01:39.13 | ScytheBlade1 | (and stfu about airflow, I have it covered) |
| 01:39.17 | Dagmar | We've got about a dozen of 'em here |
| 01:39.17 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: then you dont need the case per se..... |
| 01:39.28 | Thunder_Child | just use the cupboard |
| 01:39.35 | ScytheBlade1 | (that wasn't pointed at you directly, Thunder_Child) |
| 01:39.43 | Thunder_Child | i understand ^_^ |
| 01:40.01 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: why do you need to put NICs in it? |
| 01:40.10 | Dagmar | I've just been assuming airflow's been handled, or that many drives AND a CPU in that small a space won't just fail.. they'll ignire |
| 01:40.12 | Dagmar | er ignite |
| 01:40.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: bonding 2x gigabit NICs to a decent switch |
| 01:40.44 | Dagmar | Dude. |
| 01:40.50 | Arrowmaster | some boards can do that with onboard |
| 01:40.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Right, but all of the onboard stuff blows |
| 01:41.10 | ScytheBlade1 | namely jumbo frames |
| 01:41.20 | A-KO | my onboard does jumbo frames |
| 01:41.25 | A-KO | most modern onboard ones do |
| 01:41.31 | ScytheBlade1 | do you have dual onboard with 9k frame size? |
| 01:41.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a modern motherboard |
| 01:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | no jumbo frames |
| 01:41.41 | A-KO | not dual onboard, no. |
| 01:41.53 | Arrowmaster | what chip is your onboard lan? |
| 01:41.56 | A-KO | gigabyte's boards with realtek nics in 'em are all jumbo frames |
| 01:42.00 | A-KO | tell you what |
| 01:42.12 | Arrowmaster | i dont have a gigabit network at home so ive never tested jumbo frames on mine |
| 01:42.13 | A-KO | I've pushed over 100MB/sec reads over a LAN at a lanparty once :P |
| 01:42.21 | A-KO | mixed frame networks can get kinda messy, too |
| 01:42.22 | ScytheBlade1 | eth0: RTL8168c/8111c at 0xffffc9001183a000, 00:24:21:5b:a3:09, XID 1c4000c0 IRQ 31 |
| 01:42.25 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 01:42.36 | ScytheBlade1 | A-KO: good to know, about gigabyte. |
| 01:42.45 | Dagmar | I think that perhaps if you're spending so much money you can afford 12 drives, and the money is driven by a need to drive TWO gigabit NICs at nearly full throughput, you can damn well tell someone "FIND ME A GODDAMN CARPENTER TO MAKE THE SPACE LARGER" |
| 01:42.48 | Arrowmaster | thats what i have i think ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:43.06 | A-KO | granted, my nic can only do 7K jumbo frames... |
| 01:43.12 | A-KO | but a buddy's onboard does 9K |
| 01:43.21 | A-KO | whom I tested it with |
| 01:43.30 | A-KO | over one of those netgear 8-port gig-e switches |
| 01:43.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: I can go longer, but not higher or deeper |
| 01:43.43 | ScytheBlade1 | (that's what she said) |
| 01:44.12 | A-KO | Dagmar: I'd love to switch my home network to gig-e but no real need for it atm, but eventually when I move my file storage to a fileserver and make my primary system a beefy laptop, with a HTPC--I'll use it |
| 01:44.12 | Dagmar | Then you're just going to have to disappoint someone then |
| 01:44.15 | A-KO | along with 802.11n 5Ghz |
| 01:44.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: again, not really... I have a design and components that'll work fine |
| 01:44.38 | A-KO | 100Mbps is dogshit slow |
| 01:44.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Just curious if I can do any optimization |
| 01:44.50 | Dagmar | A-KO: I'm already working my way there, although I'm currently waiting on some better fans to stop the fileserver from sounding like it's going to take off |
| 01:45.00 | A-KO | lol Dagmar |
| 01:45.02 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: No you don't. Notably, you lack a motherboard. |
| 01:45.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130263 |
| 01:45.26 | Dewin | Heh. I fired up a Dell Poweredge 2650 (2U rackmount server) in my apartment once. It sounded pretty much like that. |
| 01:45.32 | ScytheBlade1 | 1x SATA controller, 1x dual-port NIC |
| 01:45.39 | Dewin | it just keeps getting louder and louder and you don't think it's going to stop |
| 01:45.41 | A-KO | I used to have a 2850 at my desk at work til people complained :( |
| 01:45.51 | A-KO | I'll tell you what's loud |
| 01:45.56 | A-KO | the spinup of an IBM bladecenter |
| 01:46.03 | Dagmar | Dewin: Rackmount equipment is almost NEVER designed with quiet in mind |
| 01:46.14 | Dagmar | A-KO: You can dry your freaking hair with those things |
| 01:46.21 | A-KO | Dagmar: lol |
| 01:46.44 | Dagmar | Seriously, we have an earplug dispenser outside the data-center door |
| 01:46.57 | Dewin | Dagmar: Actually ,apparently it wasn't FCC licensed for home use or something like that. |
| 01:47.31 | Dagmar | Dewin: Yeah, another consideration is that they don't really have to give a crap about RFI when something's in a DC. |
| 01:47.34 | A-KO | I actually don't mind the whine of computers anymore |
| 01:47.45 | Dagmar | It's not like some duffer with a pacemaker is going into one of those without knowing he's killing himself. |
| 01:47.46 | A-KO | the only thing that bothers me is wondering what other people think |
| 01:47.50 | A-KO | that and the heat output |
| 01:48.10 | A-KO | leave a few rackmount systems in a room and close the door and it'll bring the temperature up mighty quick |
| 01:48.28 | Dagmar | A-KO: we were heating the condo in San Fran with computers |
| 01:48.51 | A-KO | I turn my pc off now for the sake of making the AC run less |
| 01:48.56 | Dewin | Well in my case, they were systems going to a datacenter, I just had them at home to get them operational ;) |
| 01:49.00 | A-KO | PC eating power + PC causing AC to run more = bad |
| 01:49.06 | Dagmar | Sleep modes good. |
| 01:49.15 | A-KO | sometimes that doesn't kick on for my PC |
| 01:49.17 | Cralor`1 | Computer talk, nice. Will Megahalem play nicely with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121386&Tpk=intel%20dp55sb / http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220488&Tpk=patriot%204gb%202400 / http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127490&cm_re=5770-_-14-127-490-_-Product ? |
| 01:49.23 | Cralor`1 | sry big links ._. |
| 01:49.26 | Shirik | off for my daily run |
| 01:49.27 | A-KO | like, I've got it on a 2 hour sleep timer--turn on a tv show/movie and lie down--when I wake up, sleep mode won't come on |
| 01:49.29 | Shirik | if I don't come back |
| 01:49.35 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 inherits all of my projects |
| 01:49.49 | A-KO | honestly Cralor`1, unless you damn well know what you're doing, I'd suggest not going mATX |
| 01:49.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Cralor`1: that heatsink on that motherboard would be croweded, but it should fix |
| 01:49.53 | Dagmar | A-ko: Watching a video on the pC you expect to go to sleep? |
| 01:49.56 | ScytheBlade1 | *fit |
| 01:49.59 | ScytheBlade1 | but I offer no promises |
| 01:50.04 | Cralor`1 | A-KO : got it for free (mobo) |
| 01:50.05 | A-KO | Dagmar: well, I expect like, after the video stops, the PC to sleep automatically |
| 01:50.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I have one such heatsink and it is NOT SMALL |
| 01:50.17 | Dagmar | A-ko: In two hours it will, after you kill the media player. |
| 01:50.30 | A-KO | yeah Dagmar....that's the big one :P killing the media player...heh |
| 01:50.52 | Dagmar | Movie players almost always hook ACPI because otherwise people get a little upset about 90 minutes into their movie, the machine just goes dark on htem. |
| 01:50.52 | ScytheBlade1 | cralor: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_2oEcdKTfN1w/S-vroT3RjPI/AAAAAAAAAC0/AeBz2F5QtF0/s1152/[UNSET].jpg |
| 01:50.58 | ScytheBlade1 | cralor: that is a full-size ATX board |
| 01:51.46 | ScytheBlade1 | http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2oEcdKTfN1w/S-vrv121mnI/AAAAAAAAAC4/gnkMVcFu_9Y/[UNSET].jpg |
| 01:51.50 | ScytheBlade1 | (with fans attached) |
| 01:51.51 | cralor | AB1: http://www.intel.com/Assets/Image/prodlarge/dp55sb_lg.jpg |
| 01:51.53 | cralor | SB1* |
| 01:52.11 | cralor | thats mobo image |
| 01:52.18 | ScytheBlade1 | cralor: yeah, I've looked at that one |
| 01:52.28 | cralor | I got the memory and Mobo from Intel :D |
| 01:52.38 | cralor | as well as i7-875k |
| 01:52.56 | cralor | so... need nice cooling for overclock :P |
| 01:53.16 | Dagmar | why bother |
| 01:53.19 | cralor | i doubt i could use that memory at stock 2400MHz O_O |
| 01:53.47 | cralor | for fun! |
| 01:54.01 | cralor | fun,learn,more bad ass |
| 01:54.14 | Dagmar | Can't you just wait about eighteen months and throw a handful of screws into the case while it's running? |
| 01:54.14 | ScytheBlade1 | cralor: only issue with that board is that all of the NICs I'd be using are x4 lanes |
| 01:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | so the dual x1 lanes wouldn't be used ever |
| 01:54.40 | cralor | noo SB1 :) I was still referring to "will it fit" |
| 01:54.47 | cralor | that's my mobo |
| 01:54.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 01:54.52 | Dagmar | ...or just throw a twenty-sided die once a month, and if you roll a 1, throw some screws in |
| 01:55.02 | cralor | ~lart Dagmar |
| 01:55.02 | purl | lowers Dagmar's priority |
| 01:55.07 | ScytheBlade1 | you *may* run into issues with it hitting your GPU |
| 01:55.12 | ScytheBlade1 | RAM should be fine though |
| 01:55.25 | Dagmar | cralor: Overclocking slowly murders equipment. |
| 01:55.33 | Dagmar | ...and sometimes not slowly. |
| 01:55.39 | cralor | I'll try to measure it out. |
| 01:55.48 | cralor | I won't go too far, Dagmar |
| 01:55.56 | ScytheBlade1 | cralor: just keep in mind: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_2oEcdKTfN1w/S-vrv121mnI/AAAAAAAAAC4/gnkMVcFu_9Y/[UNSET].jpg |
| 01:56.01 | ScytheBlade1 | cralor: IT IS NOT SMALL. :) |
| 01:56.11 | Dagmar | If you wanna learn something, overclock some older piece of crap machine |
| 01:56.47 | ScytheBlade1 | http://lh5.ggpht.com/_2oEcdKTfN1w/S-vsMCIh1BI/AAAAAAAAADA/_NrXpjaX1Uk/[UNSET].jpg |
| 01:56.51 | ScytheBlade1 | (in the case) |
| 01:57.14 | cralor | yeah :) |
| 01:57.39 | Dagmar | Wow. There's an argument for those heat pipe risers just to get those fans to not be pointing directly at the RAM |
| 01:58.11 | ScytheBlade1 | the fans on the case are all exhaust |
| 01:58.28 | ScytheBlade1 | the fans on the heatsink pass it right to left |
| 01:58.44 | ScytheBlade1 | likewise, building chrome results in a net 0C change in CPU temp. :) |
| 01:58.54 | cralor | push/pull, yeah |
| 01:59.17 | Dagmar | You shoudl probably flip one of them around |
| 01:59.31 | ScytheBlade1 | It has intakes on the bottom |
| 01:59.47 | Dagmar | GOod |
| 01:59.52 | ScytheBlade1 | those are also 10dBa 40CFM fans |
| 01:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 02:00.08 | Dagmar | ...cuz large amounts of negative pressure tends to result in air being sucked in through the optical drive, killing it early |
| 02:00.21 | ScytheBlade1 | fan3: 899 |
| 02:00.41 | cralor | going to get out the ruler now.. |
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| 02:04.35 | cralor | oh ya... probably won't fit... otherwise one really tight fir |
| 02:04.36 | cralor | fit |
| 02:04.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I wouldn't try it on a micro ATX |
| 02:05.04 | ScytheBlade1 | as nice as it may be |
| 02:05.06 | ScytheBlade1 | probably won't work out |
| 02:05.11 | Dagmar | sonofa... |
| 02:05.26 | cralor | yeah. you know of a good alternative? is the H50? |
| 02:05.36 | ScytheBlade1 | alternative heatsink? |
| 02:05.39 | cralor | yeah. |
| 02:06.25 | cralor | i'm thinking of the Corsair H50. close-circuit low-end LC. but small CPU head. |
| 02:06.30 | ScytheBlade1 | honestly, for microatx, I'd get a smaller heatsink with a low RPM fan and just ensure the case has good airglow |
| 02:06.33 | ScytheBlade1 | *airflow |
| 02:07.13 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/std/sku=cnps8700.html |
| 02:07.15 | ScytheBlade1 | something like that |
| 02:07.29 | ScytheBlade1 | or http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/std/sku=CNPS9500A_Intel.html if you can manage it |
| 02:07.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@pool-71-169-59-190.pghkny.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:08.20 | Kraps | ohai |
| 02:09.56 | cralor | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109030 ? |
| 02:10.22 | cralor | 5 x 2.5 x 6.3 inches |
| 02:10.26 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968747521/why-bashlok-why/ |
| 02:10.55 | ScytheBlade1 | if it'll fit that'd be neat |
| 02:11.56 | cralor | what you think of the http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010 |
| 02:12.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (~Tuller@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 02:12.39 | ScytheBlade1 | wish it had a better view online |
| 02:13.11 | cralor | here's a pic on google: http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1025/corsair_h50_nfp12_fans.jpg |
| 02:13.29 | cralor | http://www.pcper.com/images/news/corsairh50/01.jpg |
| 02:13.35 | ScytheBlade1 | oh right, those |
| 02:13.48 | ScytheBlade1 | to be honest, I'm quite happy with air cooling on my i7 |
| 02:14.12 | Dagmar | Crap. |
| 02:14.25 | Dagmar | Looks like I get to play the Firmware Roulette game with my HD-PVR |
| 02:15.30 | Dagmar | I'm getting audio drift because it's marking the video stream as 60fps instead of 59.97 |
| 02:16.46 | Dagmar | I'd love to know why it started this about the same time as I upgraded myth to 0.23, but whatever... It coudln't have been myth |
| 02:17.49 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf @ youtube hosting 4K resolution videos |
| 02:17.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Can flash even pull that crap off? |
| 02:18.09 | Dagmar | Yeah, *if* you're on Windows |
| 02:18.29 | Dagmar | Pretty sure that's the only place Flash can actually access hardware accelleration from a video card |
| 02:18.44 | Dagmar | Now, whether or not you're on FIOS is another matter |
| 02:21.31 | Kraps | are the new talent trees up in beta yet? |
| 02:21.51 | Zyn | Kraps: no |
| 02:22.17 | Zyn | we're waiting for them, patiently ... as in : SCREAMING "GIVE NOW GIVE NOW GIVE NOW" over and over |
| 02:23.00 | Kraps | :) |
| 02:32.09 | Shirik | so I got that underarmor "compression heatgear" |
| 02:32.12 | Shirik | it's quite amazing |
| 02:35.08 | kd3 | a new beta build would be nie |
| 02:35.11 | kd3 | s/nie/nice/ |
| 02:35.15 | kd3 | wtb a conclusion to The Firelord |
| 02:37.54 | Kraps | the happy thread is not even 300 pages |
| 02:38.03 | Zyn | and not dying when entering the portal |
| 02:39.57 | Shirik | kraps |
| 02:40.02 | Shirik | are you a stranger in a strange land? |
| 02:44.51 | Kraps | idk Shirik |
| 02:44.55 | Kraps | am i? |
| 02:46.30 | Zyn | Kraps wants to land in a stranger |
| 02:46.58 | Kraps | ponders @ Zyn |
| 02:47.21 | Thunder_Child | it's not called 'getting some strange' for no reason |
| 02:47.33 | airtonix | Shirik, so you're not naked ? |
| 02:50.56 | Kraps | Best. Bracers. Ever. http://cata.wowhead.com/item=52905 |
| 02:51.05 | kd3 | sighs |
| 02:51.46 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Biggest_Egg_Ever |
| 02:52.17 | Kraps | well yes |
| 02:52.38 | Kraps | says that on the item page too |
| 02:54.25 | Zyn | and the only DK relic so far with actual stats : http://cata.wowhead.com/item=57297 |
| 02:58.45 | Kemayo_ | wowcompares seems to have died. Something replaced it yet? |
| 02:59.48 | Dagmar | Seems *weird* to see an ilvl 272 item that's a greenie |
| 03:00.09 | kd3 | that's all hyjal and vashj'ir drop... except for the quest chain-ending blues, which are 288 |
| 03:00.22 | Dagmar | lol |
| 03:00.35 | Dagmar | That'll be awesome to see hardcore raiders of old going into Hyjal... |
| 03:00.43 | Dagmar | "WTF! Greens?! GREENS?>!?!" |
| 03:02.15 | Dagmar | We'll be allowed to kill NPCs we don't like in Cata, right? |
| 03:02.20 | kd3 | oh. I've got quick links to all of the zones where I've quested and documented up on the wiki if anyone's curious to see storylines/quest rewards et al |
| 03:02.22 | kd3 | lol, I wish |
| 03:02.43 | Dagmar | I'm thinking there's a gnome I will be trying to turn into a sandwitch paste after being given http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Irresistible_Pool_Pony |
| 03:03.38 | kd3 | at some point I need to go through my screenshots and start uploading all of the npc caps I've got just waiting here for me |
| 03:04.13 | Dagmar | A shame they can't be geotagged automatically. |
| 03:07.48 | Kraps | http://greyshades.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/halion.jpg?w=477 |
| 03:10.47 | Kraps | how legit is the addon --> realid problem? |
| 03:15.33 | Shirik | problem? |
| 03:16.05 | Kraps | addons coded a certain way can get your realid or something |
| 03:17.33 | Kraps | Shirik: you didnt hear about this? |
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| 03:23.57 | Kraps | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816898018&sid=1#0 |
| 03:25.00 | Shirik | uh |
| 03:25.03 | Shirik | they've been able to forever |
| 03:25.10 | Shirik | it's been a cvar for a while now |
| 03:25.45 | Kraps | is that a problem or not? |
| 03:26.00 | Shirik | no? |
| 03:26.02 | amro | I really don't see how it could be |
| 03:26.09 | Shirik | There's a million things addons can do that you might not like |
| 03:26.49 | Shirik | at the end of the day you still have to think about whether or not you trust the addon you're using |
| 03:27.00 | amro | it would require some crafty social engineering, or being able to sneak a bad addon on your computer |
| 03:27.06 | Dagmar | Addons that'll strip your nelf naked when they touch a mailbox |
| 03:27.12 | amro | anyone in a position to do either probably knows your name :) |
| 03:27.46 | Shirik | just made teriyaki chicken and rice and it is awesome |
| 03:27.53 | A-KO | Shirik: Clearly Blizzard should make an addon App Store ;) |
| 03:28.20 | Shirik | I'm honestly surprised they haven't |
| 03:28.43 | Kraps | i dont doubt they will make one |
| 03:28.52 | Dagmar | I don't see it happening |
| 03:29.18 | Dagmar | No profit in it, and there's no sense in them taking on the liability |
| 03:29.40 | amro | it's rather that there isn't enough profit to justify it |
| 03:30.04 | Dagmar | You guys are going to start coughing up fees to register your addons? |
| 03:30.51 | Kraps | Dagmar: OMG ACTIKOTICK |
| 03:30.52 | amro | as I said, it's not profitable enough to justify pissing people off |
| 03:31.15 | amro | probably why they didn't kill item DBs when they released armory |
| 03:32.06 | Dagmar | I don't see why they'd wanna do that either |
| 03:33.06 | Dagmar | They woudln't have to shut anyone down to run their own app store, but they'd have to do something like say, certify that the file came from someone who doesn't wake up in a dorm, say 'ni hao' and then get back to spearfishing every morning |
| 03:33.40 | amro | sure, but it's likely not worth it to them at this point |
| 03:33.49 | amro | there are sites that do just that |
| 03:34.13 | Dagmar | Hence, no profit in it |
| 03:35.00 | amro | it's not clear profit. there's no way to tell how many people would use it vs how many people would keep using wowi/curse/wwhatever |
| 03:35.28 | Kraps | is a cheap basterd |
| 03:35.29 | amro | and it's not like they're in financial trouble or anything |
| 03:35.30 | Dagmar | Where would they be taking in new money for this? |
| 03:36.07 | Dagmar | Apple makes it on both ends. Android appears to just be looking to cover costs on the developer end, and making a profit on sales |
| 03:36.15 | Shirik | put ads on the app store, and pay per download to authors |
| 03:36.30 | Shirik | not a lot per download, for sure |
| 03:36.33 | amro | there are several ways for them to make money from it |
| 03:36.35 | Shirik | but something that can add up |
| 03:36.50 | amro | but I figure blizzard crunched the numbers and didn't find it enticing enough |
| 03:37.10 | amro | or possibly a legal hurdle somewhere |
| 03:37.22 | Dagmar | That. |
| 03:38.10 | Dagmar | I'd be miniscule money for Blizz vs. increased liability |
| 03:39.41 | amro | not to mention I'd imagine some people would get pissed |
| 03:43.40 | Dagmar | People would act like Blizz forbade everyone to eat cookies, and then started chowing down on a plate of their own |
| 03:50.15 | airtonix | omg they won't let me eat cookies! |
| 03:50.33 | airtonix | <begin fast typing to simulate hacking> |
| 03:52.20 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (~airtonix@unaffiliated/airtonix) |
| 03:54.11 | Kraps | "Conspiracy theorists who believe that our own government, led by President Bush, perpetrated the First 9/11 attack on America are fruitcake kooks. A part of their brain is unhinged. But if there is a Second 9/11 attack on America this October, and worse than the first, the fully rational response will be to accuse our own government, led by President Zero, of perpetrating it." |
| 03:55.23 | Shirik | does carbonite still exist? |
| 03:56.15 | Kraps | Shirik: the addon? sure, i have it |
| 03:58.12 | Dagmar | Kraps: Why do I have the suspicion someone posted that to the WoW forum |
| 04:01.59 | Wobin | Dagmar: I find your choice of phrasing terribly racist |
| 04:02.08 | Wobin | Just because they're chinese don't mean they're all spear fishers |
| 04:02.09 | Shirik | jnwhiteh / Iriel / any apple users: Does Apple still only support JRE 5? |
| 04:02.26 | Wobin | (I can't deny they live in a dorm, cause, by god, they really do) |
| 04:02.31 | Dagmar | Wobin: I needed a villain. Might as well throw in all the evil I can |
| 04:02.55 | Wobin | that was a terrible conglomeration of chinese and japanese |
| 04:03.10 | Dagmar | It was 'goldfarmer' I was aiming for, but there's reason they can' thave side jobs as actual criminals |
| 04:04.15 | Wobin | Dagmar: http://www.lol-jokes.com/ethnic-u-s-/asians/whats-the-difference =P |
| 04:04.23 | Dagmar | Bring me a real one and I'll show you some racism. |
| 04:04.29 | Dagmar | ...and some shocking, shocking violence. |
| 04:04.40 | Wobin | real criminal or real gold farmer? |
| 04:04.46 | Dagmar | Real gold farmer. |
| 04:04.59 | Dagmar | I still regret being civil during Summerc0n '95. |
| 04:05.01 | Wobin | he's not a real farmer, but he has got WoW gold, and he likes to play the drums |
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| 04:06.00 | Dagmar | My compatriots stumbled upon another heavy computer user in the hotel, and they were just bursting with glee when I found them upstairs talking to him, near an open balcony on the 6th floor. |
| 04:06.29 | Dagmar | Turns out, the guy was a "mass email marketing agent", by which I mean he was a fucking spammer. |
| 04:06.41 | Kraps | Dagmar: nah, ever heard of pamela geller? |
| 04:06.42 | Dagmar | People had actually bet money I would at least try to toss him over the balcony. |
| 04:06.58 | Dagmar | I seriously thought about it, too. They could SEE me thinking about it |
| 04:07.13 | Corrodias | too many witnesses :( |
| 04:07.27 | Dagmar | Yeah right like a bunch of hackers would say shit about seeing someone chuck a spammer off a balcony |
| 04:07.59 | Dagmar | What we'd have was 20 people testifying that we never saw the guy and they we were too busy drinking to have talked to anyone |
| 04:08.05 | Kraps | Wobin: oooooold |
| 04:08.20 | Dagmar | Krpas: Never heard of her |
| 04:08.56 | Dagmar | Kraps: I take it she's the person who dream't that little bit of crap up? |
| 04:08.57 | Kraps | Dagmar: shes an insane right wing blogger |
| 04:09.25 | Dagmar | ..which, from the look of her blog was just a roundabout way of trying to belittle the president |
| 04:10.05 | Dagmar | The tea party will never go anywhere unless it purges the cranks from it's lists... which I guess is good, since the Republicans probably won't risk Palin a second time |
| 04:10.39 | Kraps | for non-insane coolness http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/ |
| 04:10.56 | Dewin | I love dominos online ordering. |
| 04:11.24 | Dewin | I love the coupon for 2 large 2 topping pizzas + $stuff that doesn't charge me anything extra when I add more toppings. |
| 04:13.06 | Dagmar | WTF are you clicking on |
| 04:13.24 | Dagmar | THey shoudl be sending me holiday cards but I have no idea how you're getting extra toppings without payin' more heh |
| 04:15.01 | Dagmar | I have a philly cheese steak problem. |
| 04:16.58 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://c-faq.com/decl/spiral.anderson.html |
| 04:17.15 | Shirik | what the fuck |
| 04:17.27 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:17.28 | Shirik | that's not code |
| 04:17.29 | Shirik | thank god |
| 04:17.51 | Dewin | Dagmar: The philly cheese steak feast pizza? |
| 04:18.12 | Dewin | That's one of my favorites too. |
| 04:18.22 | Slaren | http://i.imgur.com/5yCHd.jpg |
| 04:18.38 | Wobin | Kraps: eh? |
| 04:18.41 | Shirik | cool though :) |
| 04:19.01 | Wobin | btw, has anyone used http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=%206097 ? |
| 04:19.10 | Kraps | Wobin: the joke |
| 04:19.14 | Dagmar | Dewin: Actually the sandwich, although I've been known to get it AND a medium pizza, just to have something in the fridge for later |
| 04:19.23 | Dewin | Sure it's not code? The first couple lines look a lot like Brainfuck. |
| 04:19.26 | Wobin | Kraps: well... duh. It was to make a point. -All- jokes are old =P |
| 04:19.34 | Kraps | heh |
| 04:19.49 | Jerub | :( |
| 04:19.53 | Jerub | the gods of loot drops hate me |
| 04:20.02 | Jerub | i need the shield from norm hor |
| 04:20.06 | Wobin | Slaren: eh? |
| 04:20.20 | Slaren | "hexagrid", heh |
| 04:20.21 | Wobin | I wish people wouldn't post random screenshots with no indication of what we should be looking at |
| 04:20.27 | Dewin | Dagmar: I really shouldn't even be ordering pizza at all, but it's been an exceptionally long week and I'm way too tired... plus this gives me food to eat during raids tomorrow. |
| 04:20.30 | Slaren | sorry, i thought it would be obvious |
| 04:20.55 | Jerub | Wobin: no, but i have never had any problems with usb headsets. |
| 04:21.17 | Dagmar | Wobin: I use http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-980445-0403-Premium-Notebook-Headset/dp/B000HCRVQ2 |
| 04:21.18 | Wobin | Jerub: I have a bluetooth headset atm |
| 04:21.24 | Wobin | and it's awesome for mobility |
| 04:21.24 | Dagmar | Weighs next to nothing |
| 04:21.32 | Wobin | but it hurts after long periods of wearing it |
| 04:21.37 | Wobin | because I wear glasses |
| 04:21.42 | Dagmar | Wobin: Let me guess... Latency and audio range make you not happy? |
| 04:21.47 | Wobin | not at all |
| 04:21.50 | Wobin | both are fine |
| 04:21.55 | Wobin | I'm only in a small apartment |
| 04:21.57 | Dagmar | Weird. The latency drives me nuts |
| 04:22.13 | Wobin | Dagmar: haha, I'm Australian, any latency is expected =P |
| 04:22.33 | Dagmar | By "audio range" I mean the distressing tendency for them to clip out the low and very high ends of hte freq spectrum, which makes the "money looted" sound all weird |
| 04:22.37 | Jerub | i'm on 8 norm hor runs now, and still don't have my shield. |
| 04:22.47 | Wobin | hm |
| 04:22.59 | Wobin | oh |
| 04:23.03 | Dagmar | Wobin: I play with the hunter and his _loud gun_ so if the BANG! BANG! BANG! isn't happning right, I think I'm hitting hte wrong key |
| 04:23.03 | Wobin | I don't listen to the game through them |
| 04:23.25 | Wobin | I'd have issues filtering out game noises over the vent chatter |
| 04:23.38 | Wobin | especially with Vent |
| 04:23.47 | Wobin | when there's no autoadjustment |
| 04:23.54 | Dagmar | Dewin: Yeah, I'm not gaining weight, but I'm not losing any either what with eating 1 to 3 meals a day and half ot them bein Dominos |
| 04:23.56 | Wobin | and some people come across stupidly soft |
| 04:23.57 | Jerub | hm, naxx25, patch, has a shield. |
| 04:24.07 | Dagmar | Wobin: I just kill music and drop game sounds to 33% |
| 04:24.23 | Jerub | or naxx25 KT has a shield... |
| 04:24.32 | Wobin | Dagmar: yeah, I'm still likely to miss someone talking if they're soft to the point where I have to rejig them in Vent |
| 04:24.36 | Jerub | ponders if he could pug up a naxx25 group on his scrub warrior |
| 04:26.27 | Wobin | Jerub: my warrior hit 68! |
| 04:26.32 | Wobin | \o/ |
| 04:26.43 | Wobin | and after a night grinding in HFP, I got my engineering up to 350 |
| 04:26.50 | Wobin | and -now- I can move to NR |
| 04:27.09 | Jerub | Wobin: ! |
| 04:27.20 | Jerub | Wobin: that's awesome. |
| 04:27.32 | Jerub | Wobin: you're prot, right? |
| 04:27.36 | Wobin | yeah |
| 04:27.47 | Wobin | I try every couple of levels, but I can't seem to get the hang of fury |
| 04:27.59 | Dagmar | Wobin: I challenge you to make it to 450 without contributing to "The Gnomish Army Knife Problem" |
| 04:28.34 | Wobin | Dagmar: with the ridiculous amount of knives available? =) |
| 04:28.39 | Wobin | I don't think there's a cheaper path |
| 04:29.29 | Jerub | speaking of which, i should get a gnomish army knife |
| 04:29.37 | Jerub | that can be a mining pick and a blacksmithinghammer, right? |
| 04:29.41 | Dagmar | Jerub: Holler out in trade chat |
| 04:29.42 | Wobin | yep |
| 04:29.50 | Dagmar | "Can someone mail me a gnomish army knife?" |
| 04:29.53 | Wobin | there's just a complete lack of decent recipes at that level |
| 04:30.11 | Dagmar | You wind up making 20 of the damn things at least |
| 04:30.22 | Jerub | i've gotta level my damn BS |
| 04:30.26 | Jerub | until i can socket my bracers |
| 04:30.29 | Dagmar | We should be collecting the extras and using them to build a footbridge back to Kalimdor or something |
| 04:31.07 | Jerub | at least with blacksmithing you m ail all your extras to a chanter. |
| 04:32.16 | Dagmar | I am *still* trying to sell the damn things off |
| 04:32.26 | Dagmar | 1g apiece in the AH and they're still glutted. |
| 04:35.46 | Jerub | i saw a dozen in our gb a few months ago |
| 04:36.31 | Kraps | grrs at inconsiderate puggers |
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| 04:38.48 | Jerub | Kraps: no kidding |
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| 04:41.40 | Jerub | i was talking to some folks the other night at a party. |
| 04:42.14 | Jerub | it was hard to feign indifference at their love of games like eve in the same breath as talking about people getting ganked and losing absolutely everything. |
| 04:43.07 | Kraps | Jerub: you admit that your guildy tank is new and you're giving him a "trial by fire" by chain pulling. i'm a priest, not a magician |
| 04:44.20 | Jerub | ugh. idiots |
| 04:44.32 | Jerub | i had a group the other day who watned to do H:OK achieves |
| 04:44.36 | Jerub | but didn't kno whow |
| 04:46.25 | Kraps | Jerub: if you get killed in eve you lose stuff right? |
| 04:48.24 | Jerub | Kraps: yeah. you can get insurance and clones and stuff, but if you don't set yourself up right, or you can't afford it, you literally lose everything. all skills, all equipement and all money. |
| 04:48.49 | Kraps | damn |
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| 04:49.30 | Jerub | it's a common story, "I played eve, but then I lost everrything and quit" |
| 04:57.01 | Antiarc | Wobin: Mumble auto-attenuates system sound when someone talks |
| 04:57.08 | Antiarc | So you can have volume at full and not care >_> |
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| 05:02.58 | Shirik | Ventrilo attenuates itunes whenever someone talks |
| 05:03.01 | Shirik | and I didn't even ask it to |
| 05:03.06 | Shirik | it's really annoying |
| 05:05.21 | Shirik | Esamynn|Away |
| 05:05.24 | Shirik | we should make a 4v4 team |
| 05:05.26 | Shirik | or 3v3 team |
| 05:05.31 | Shirik | tem you up for that? |
| 05:07.20 | airtonix | ventrilo sucks monkeys balls |
| 05:07.30 | airtonix | so does itunes |
| 05:07.55 | airtonix | and so do you shirik unless you're naked right now. |
| 05:09.01 | Kraps | so he sucks monkeys balls only if hes dressed? |
| 05:09.17 | Kraps | is confused |
| 05:10.55 | ccox | levelling a new NE huntard, got a cat, named the cat "cliché" |
| 05:11.46 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Vivendi |
| 05:12.40 | Kraps | thats like, a monopoly or something! |
| 05:13.31 | DWSR | See also: monopoly. Lol |
| 05:14.09 | Corrodias | they need to delete that page. WIKIPEDIA IS NOT a place for lists, remember! :V |
| 05:14.53 | Kraps | Corrodias: I've removed the list of games published by Vivendi through its subsidiaries since the information isn't really relevant in this article. If we would choose to keep the list of games, we would be forced to include lists of albums, movies, and tv-shows, in the name of consistency. But this article isn't a list of products, but a list of assets as in subsidiaries. NisseSthlm 15:05,... |
| 05:14.55 | Kraps | ...3 December 2007 (UTC) |
| 05:15.26 | Corrodias | eh, that makes enough sense |
| 05:31.33 | Shirik | oh my life |
| 05:31.45 | Shirik | Bug report on Minion: Application does not copy files |
| 05:32.03 | Shirik | I go through the log file and look and see java.lang.SecurityException: Write access to 'C:\tmp\extractor6830618145513711106\Livestock' is denied in this context |
| 05:32.06 | Shirik | so I'm like "ok why" |
| 05:33.01 | Shirik | !!!> - User denied permissions request |
| 05:33.01 | Shirik | com.mmoui.manager.MinionSecurityManager.updateUserGrantedPermissions(MinionSecurityManager.java:1433) |
| 05:33.01 | Shirik | it's noy copying because you told it to block it ._. |
| 05:33.35 | Kraps | Shirik: heres something to cheer you up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
| 05:45.03 | Fisker | Shirik: men |
| 05:47.45 | Fisker | in my dreams Shirik |
| 05:47.58 | Fisker | also Shirik are you stupid btw? |
| 05:49.37 | Kraps | Fisker: turtles is the answer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y&feature=player_embedded |
| 05:49.48 | Fisker | not now Kraps, Shirik is being stupid |
| 05:50.14 | Kraps | fucking turtles dude |
| 05:50.30 | Fisker | i'll fucking turtles you |
| 05:57.02 | Shirik | ??? |
| 06:02.01 | Fisker | it's windows |
| 06:02.18 | Fisker | ventrilo could care less about your shitty music |
| 06:02.19 | Fisker | :3 |
| 06:08.42 | airtonix | duuf duuf duuf |
| 06:08.44 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 06:08.49 | Fisker | are you killing yourself yet? |
| 06:10.25 | Fisker | when this battle.net page loads i will see myself in the beta |
| 06:10.35 | Fisker | damn |
| 06:10.40 | Fisker | why does noone beta me Shirik ? |
| 06:10.49 | Fisker | i just helped you not be a n00b |
| 06:10.50 | airtonix | loool |
| 06:10.54 | Fisker | that's a beta invite in my world |
| 06:24.04 | Shirik | Fisker I have a beta key for you |
| 06:24.13 | Fisker | no you don't :( |
| 06:24.19 | Shirik | 1234-5678-ABCD-EFGH-1234-567891 |
| 06:24.20 | Fisker | you always lie to me |
| 06:24.21 | Shirik | try it |
| 06:24.25 | Fisker | no |
| 06:24.32 | Fisker | there are no beta keys for cataclysm |
| 06:24.33 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:24.35 | Fisker | goodnight |
| 06:24.36 | Shirik | Kraps you can use it then |
| 06:24.40 | Fisker | there are no beta keys for cataclysm |
| 06:24.48 | Shirik | did you try? |
| 06:24.50 | Fisker | there are no beta keys for cataclysm |
| 06:24.55 | Kraps | omg ty! |
| 06:24.57 | Fisker | there are no beta keys for cataclysm |
| 06:24.57 | Shirik | you didn't try |
| 06:24.58 | Fisker | there are no beta keys for cataclysm |
| 06:25.06 | Shirik | if you don't try not my fault |
| 06:25.09 | Fisker | there are no beta keys for cataclysm |
| 06:25.19 | Fisker | you know Shirik |
| 06:25.31 | Fisker | in order to add a cataclysm beta key you must first invent the universe |
| 06:25.43 | Shirik | Kraps, did it work? |
| 06:25.54 | Fisker | i don't need to try because i know it doesn't exist |
| 06:26.16 | Fisker | also your key is obviously just a sequence of 1-0 and a-h |
| 06:26.20 | Fisker | well 1-9 actually |
| 06:26.34 | Shirik | that is a lie |
| 06:26.36 | Shirik | 567891 |
| 06:26.36 | Fisker | and it's not even the standard blizzard key arrangement either i believe |
| 06:26.40 | Shirik | is not a sequene of 1-9 |
| 06:26.47 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog Shirik |
| 06:27.10 | Kraps | i'll tell you in the morning |
| 06:27.49 | Kraps | shivers http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/04/21/080421fa_fact_paumgarten?currentPage=all |
| 06:29.09 | Fisker | goodbye Shirik |
| 06:29.12 | Fisker | you will not last a day |
| 06:32.37 | Xinhuan | Fisker, acutally there are beta keys |
| 06:32.38 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 06:33.04 | Xinhuan | but they aren't obtained in a standard manner |
| 06:33.13 | batrick | hai shirik! |
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| 06:40.54 | Fisker | OMGGGGGGGGGGG |
| 06:40.59 | Fisker | how can it be Shirik ? |
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| 06:45.02 | Fisker | Shirik i will destroy you |
| 06:45.53 | Shirik | nope |
| 06:46.08 | Shirik | not with my cellular |
| 06:46.12 | Shirik | bananular phone |
| 06:46.32 | batrick | oh ya |
| 06:46.45 | Fisker | this is awesome Shirik |
| 06:46.49 | Fisker | my computer works again |
| 06:46.58 | Shirik | I know |
| 06:47.00 | Shirik | I stopped haxing it |
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| 07:07.38 | Fisker | Chimera vs. Arcane â Chimera should have a higher DPCT/damage than Arcane as a tradeoff for having a cooldown. You should be casting Chimera before Arcane in any situation where it's not on cooldown. There numbers may not be tuned quite right yet. |
| 07:07.40 | Fisker | lololol |
| 07:07.59 | Fisker | Ghostcrawler is one of those types who can't see the difference between their and there |
| 07:07.59 | Fisker | :3 |
| 07:09.20 | Corrodias | what a fool! |
| 07:09.30 | Corrodias | guffaw |
| 07:10.52 | Fisker | lets make love Corrodias |
| 07:10.59 | Corrodias | verily |
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| 07:19.16 | Fisker | nice Corrodias |
| 07:36.57 | Fisker | only 3 items |
| 07:37.01 | Fisker | and i'm full ilvl 277 |
| 07:37.05 | Fisker | well full* |
| 07:39.13 | Shadowed | oh, that explains a lot lun |
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| 07:45.42 | airtonix | fisker |
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| 07:58.32 | Fisker | Shirikmen |
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| 08:42.07 | Fisker | sup kd3 |
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| 08:45.10 | Fisker | ok be a jerk then kd3 |
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| 09:21.28 | harl | hi |
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| 09:29.44 | Eluna | Is Omen put on ice or something? Any other updated threatmeters? |
| 09:33.55 | Grum | why would it be updated? |
| 09:34.03 | Satisfyme | not sure if Omen is put on ice but it still works fine on my side |
| 09:34.12 | Grum | the api hasnt changed for .. well . almost all of WotLK |
| 09:34.18 | Eluna | Ah, ok. :) |
| 09:34.30 | Grum | i dont get the 'omg its not updated therefor it must not work' |
| 09:34.38 | Eluna | I never said that? |
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| 09:34.41 | Satisfyme | just load outdated addons |
| 09:34.50 | Grum | Eluna: its a general attitude :) |
| 09:35.08 | Eluna | Believe me, I load plenty of outdated addons. :P Or rather, I update their TOC :P |
| 09:35.16 | Grum | you are kidding right? |
| 09:35.29 | Grum | gah that is so ... 2004 O.o |
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| 09:35.33 | Eluna | haha |
| 09:35.47 | Grum | back when there wasnt a 'load out of date' addons toggle |
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| 09:37.56 | Satisfyme | Anyway, I am in need of an moderator/admin to explain something on wowace. It's a message I get on the from page |
| 09:38.11 | Satisfyme | on my addon page |
| 09:38.15 | Fisker | sweats on Shirik |
| 09:38.23 | Grum | Satisfyme: what kind of message is it? :) |
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| 09:44.56 | Xinhuan | Satisfyme, what message? |
| 09:45.56 | Fisker | i brrrrrrr'd you Shirik |
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| 09:46.18 | airtonix | Grum, OMG MY ADDONS ARE NOT UPDATED!!!!!oneonecirlce |
| 09:46.30 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 09:46.33 | airtonix | fisker |
| 09:46.38 | Fisker | you are the reason why Blizzard wanted real id on forums |
| 09:46.58 | airtonix | im missing a minor release addon update |
| 09:47.18 | airtonix | i NEEED all the asian translations for Ackis Recipe List |
| 09:48.44 | airtonix | fisker, no. |
| 09:49.37 | airtonix | wouldn't it be hilarious if it came to light that fisker was a vivendi employee ? |
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| 09:53.18 | Fisker | that would suck airtonix |
| 09:53.26 | airtonix | i know right ? |
| 09:53.32 | airtonix | because by now |
| 09:53.37 | airtonix | you'd be in beta |
| 09:53.43 | Fisker | doubtful |
| 09:54.28 | airtonix | doubt is a sign of weakness |
| 09:54.44 | Fisker | ok i would not have the beta by now |
| 09:56.04 | Fisker | pwnt |
| 09:56.14 | Fisker | also farts |
| 09:56.17 | Fisker | but that's another story |
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| 10:10.06 | airtonix | man fisker |
| 10:10.13 | airtonix | why are people so retarded |
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| 10:33.03 | Fisker | i don't know airtonix |
| 10:33.05 | Fisker | why are you? |
| 10:33.23 | airtonix | sphrh spsh spsh |
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| 10:36.08 | airtonix | fisker |
| 10:36.11 | airtonix | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/386370 |
| 10:36.20 | Fisker | i can't |
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| 10:36.54 | airtonix | fail |
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| 11:14.25 | Fierceflame | Anyone knows if it's possibel togh et the whole wowprogramming.com reference available offline, without amiing each individual page available offline |
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| 11:21.16 | Grum | Fierceflame: buy the book? |
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| 11:22.58 | nevcairiel | hehe, indeed |
| 11:26.37 | Fierceflame | Well i got the book :P |
| 11:26.52 | Fierceflame | But the reference is up to date and the book isnt :P |
| 11:27.19 | Fierceflame | And as Im going on vacation I cant access it from the internet |
| 11:27.59 | nevcairiel | If you have the second edition book, there arent that many changes |
| 11:28.36 | Fierceflame | Hmmmkay, got first edition :S |
| 11:28.54 | Fierceflame | And I cant get the second edition within 4 hours xD |
| 11:29.35 | Fierceflame | Well if I cant get the full reference offline ive gotta improvise xD |
| 11:34.01 | fiphi | Fierceflame: Four hours is more than enough to save each page individually... :p |
| 11:34.27 | nevcairiel | or write a script to do it for you! |
| 11:34.56 | nevcairiel | could just ask jnwhiteh, maybe he has something somewhere |
| 11:35.00 | Fierceflame | Cant write scripts :P |
| 11:35.02 | Fierceflame | YET |
| 11:35.21 | Fierceflame | *pokes Jnwhiteh* |
| 11:35.28 | foxlit | wget -r, go |
| 11:36.25 | Fisker | it's very hot in here Fierceflame |
| 11:36.30 | Fisker | even though you're foxlit |
| 11:36.50 | Fisker | i'm also very disappoint |
| 11:36.52 | Fisker | i can't raid :( |
| 11:37.01 | foxlit | No, Fisker, nobody wants to see you do the obvious continuation of that phrase. |
| 11:37.03 | mikma | fisker, i am very disappoint |
| 11:37.23 | Fisker | no continuation foxlit |
| 11:37.26 | Fisker | so not that obvioust |
| 11:37.29 | Fisker | obvious* |
| 11:37.30 | Fisker | pwnt |
| 11:37.56 | Fierceflame | Fisker, It's hit in ehre two |
| 11:38.03 | Fierceflame | My two computers beat my airco |
| 11:38.07 | Fierceflame | *three |
| 11:41.44 | Grum | same here, mine has problems pushing it below 24 deg |
| 11:41.56 | Grum | but that is stil better than the 32-33 it would be otherwise :D |
| 11:42.23 | Fierceflame | Hmm ye :P |
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| 11:51.27 | airtonix | "wut r wget" |
| 11:53.05 | Maldivia | :P |
| 11:53.19 | Fierceflame | Probably something usefull |
| 11:53.45 | Maldivia | airtonix: it's a pirate tool... |
| 11:55.12 | Fierceflame | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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| 12:22.51 | foxlit | curse you, rally point change |
| 12:23.12 | foxlit | Broke my baneling + nydus worm rally comedy. |
| 12:26.16 | Fisker | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooownt |
| 12:26.36 | Fisker | i just wish the game was out already |
| 12:26.49 | Fisker | custom games and singleplayer > multiplayer |
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| 12:36.36 | Jamash | pants |
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| 12:39.02 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:43.01 | Jamash | slaps Fisker around a bit with a pair of pants. |
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| 13:00.45 | Jamash | Hubba hubba zoot zoot. |
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| 13:08.20 | Adys | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/100711.html |
| 13:11.20 | Jamash | Ghostcrawler: "The Arms warrior has pet names for all his weapons, while the Fury warrior shows up for battle drunk and half clothed." |
| 13:11.50 | Jamash | that's a sig quote if I ever saw one |
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| 13:12.40 | Maldivia | Jamash: so in other words, NEs plays Arm, and Dwarfs plays Fury ? |
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| 13:13.38 | Jamash | Maldivia: I guess |
| 13:22.48 | Jamash | so last time I tried to launch team fortress 2 it said "WOOPS GOTTA GET 400MB OF STUFF". This time, it says "WOOPS GOTTA VALIDATE YOUR GAME CACHE" |
| 13:26.27 | A-KO | http://i29.tinypic.com/2mwgu4p.jpg < Sepulcher, for those not in the beta |
| 13:26.40 | Jamash | nice |
| 13:26.53 | A-KO | People got on my case |
| 13:26.54 | A-KO | like |
| 13:26.59 | A-KO | all of the forsaken towns got that kind of overhaul |
| 13:27.03 | A-KO | even bridges, roads |
| 13:27.17 | A-KO | all the bridges got these nice looking overhauls in Silverpine also |
| 13:27.22 | A-KO | Brill got massively overhauled |
| 13:27.26 | A-KO | the zep towers |
| 13:27.35 | A-KO | but they did not a THING to the outside of Lordearon |
| 13:27.38 | A-KO | which amazes me |
| 13:27.44 | A-KO | people are like "But then it wouldn't be Undercity!?" |
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| 13:28.10 | A-KO | it's like, they built fortress walls around the zone, rebuilt entire towns--but the upper part of UC doesn't even get changed/rebuilt/modified. |
| 13:28.15 | A-KO | wtf is that :P |
| 13:28.17 | Jamash | strange |
| 13:28.35 | nevcairiel | maybe its still up |
| 13:28.51 | A-KO | huh? |
| 13:28.58 | Maldivia | A-KO: sacred ruins :P |
| 13:29.01 | nevcairiel | for review |
| 13:29.36 | A-KO | that's a possibility nevcairiel |
| 13:29.44 | A-KO | I mean, honestly |
| 13:29.53 | A-KO | it'll suck trying to fly into the UC |
| 13:30.03 | A-KO | in its current state |
| 13:30.13 | A-KO | you'd have to take that back entrance every time to not dismount |
| 13:30.28 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 13:31.02 | A-KO | huge pain in the ass |
| 13:31.03 | nevcairiel | alliance has like 2 citys that we really cant fly to easily, both stuck on some silly island somewhere! |
| 13:31.39 | A-KO | no, but you can fly into them if you actually flew there :P |
| 13:32.02 | A-KO | http://i26.tinypic.com/302xe3a.jpg < that's the town right outside of Shadowfang Keep, updated and changed to reflect the new Gilneas look |
| 13:34.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: what do you mean I always take your projects? |
| 13:35.24 | nevcairiel | imho they should disable flying in citys anyway |
| 13:40.00 | Mikk | mmmm... city pvp would be a bit lol with flying allowed over the city |
| 13:40.15 | Mikk | ofc they could always do what they did in outland and have uberscouts shooting people to pieces |
| 13:40.41 | nevcairiel | You can always fly into some open place, the dismount always takes some time |
| 13:40.46 | nevcairiel | but guards are probably a good idea |
| 13:40.54 | Mikk | dismount takes time? oO |
| 13:41.04 | Mikk | it's instant ! |
| 13:41.13 | nevcairiel | the no-fly-zone is usually not instant |
| 13:41.16 | Mikk | ah |
| 13:41.20 | Mikk | that |
| 13:42.22 | nevcairiel | what is instant is guards dismounting you :d |
| 13:44.10 | Jamash | Guards should have flaming arrows |
| 13:44.13 | Jamash | and shotguns |
| 13:45.10 | Jamash | I'm sad they're wrecking up camp T |
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| 13:49.23 | A-KO | oh |
| 13:49.24 | A-KO | in other news |
| 13:49.42 | A-KO | the prince of Stromgarde that horde killed so many times is now among the ranks of the Forsaken |
| 13:52.03 | Jamash | awesome |
| 13:52.07 | A-KO | wow my cat is passed out....lol |
| 13:52.16 | Wobin | he couldn't handle the awesome |
| 13:52.17 | A-KO | she's half laying on my keyboard and my lap |
| 13:52.23 | Wobin | *she |
| 13:52.39 | A-KO | i think she's dreaming, too |
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| 14:43.16 | Thunder_Child | ~yawn |
| 14:43.16 | purl | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 14:46.16 | Fisker | that ackis guy is a huge jerk |
| 14:46.20 | Fisker | isn't that right Wobin ? |
| 14:46.50 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:47.15 | Fisker | i jerk u Wobin |
| 14:47.24 | Wobin | oh baby |
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| 15:06.17 | Maldivia | kd3, where are thou -- need your world breaker :P |
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| 15:23.17 | msoul | Hey |
| 15:27.02 | msoul | the cooldown on abilities now displays 1.5 secs etc instead of just 2, 1 etc in omnicc |
| 15:27.40 | msoul | i've been away for a lil while and did wipe everything... noticed that yesterday |
| 15:28.06 | msoul | is there anyway to get it to display the cooldowns only the secs without the 1.5, 1.4 etc |
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| 16:06.35 | Kraps | i just finished reading Rainbow Six |
| 16:06.46 | Kraps | its a win |
| 16:08.40 | Wobin | I liked the first in that series |
| 16:08.45 | Wobin | what was it? |
| 16:09.43 | Kraps | i think it was the first |
| 16:09.43 | Wobin | ah Without Remorse |
| 16:10.05 | Kraps | the one with the extremist druids |
| 16:10.09 | Wobin | maybe not the first chronologically |
| 16:10.16 | Wobin | but the first in the timeline, so to speak |
| 16:10.23 | Fisker | Rainbow Six and extremist druids? |
| 16:10.59 | Kraps | Fisker: the ex-kgb officer who worked for them called them druids :p |
| 16:11.49 | Kraps | he was the one who had the info to bring them down |
| 16:12.11 | Shirik | gillette |
| 16:12.16 | Shirik | the best a man can get |
| 16:13.28 | Wobin | I couldn't really get into the other books |
| 16:13.45 | Wobin | I guess I found the personal focus of Without Remorse interesting enough |
| 16:14.24 | Ressy | That entire series was good. |
| 16:14.41 | Ressy | Pretty much all of Tom Clancy's stuff is good. |
| 16:15.21 | nevcairiel | I should figure out which of his i havent read yet |
| 16:15.29 | Kraps | Wobin: yeah, its not a "Rainbow Six" book :) |
| 16:16.11 | Wobin | Without Remorse is currently in development with a tentative 2011 release date |
| 16:16.12 | Wobin | hm |
| 16:16.15 | Wobin | interesting |
| 16:16.16 | Ressy | nice |
| 16:16.28 | Shirik | Esamynn|Away ping |
| 16:16.34 | Shirik | tem ping |
| 16:16.37 | Shirik | Cide ping |
| 16:17.06 | Shirik | :( |
| 16:17.12 | Ressy | I think EVERYONE's seen hunt for red october. |
| 16:17.25 | Shirik | even I have |
| 16:17.30 | Shirik | and I don't watch movies |
| 16:17.36 | Kraps | dunno if i have |
| 16:17.38 | A-KO | wow |
| 16:17.41 | fiphi | If I want to know the class of a specifik item in a bag, would || local class = select(6, GetItemInfo(bag, slot)) || be correct? |
| 16:17.41 | A-KO | virus scanning an SSD |
| 16:17.41 | Shirik | yes you have |
| 16:17.42 | A-KO | lolol |
| 16:17.44 | A-KO | it's fast |
| 16:17.53 | Shirik | no fiphi |
| 16:17.57 | fiphi | Why not? |
| 16:18.02 | Shirik | because you used select |
| 16:18.07 | Shirik | take it out of your head and throw it in thetrash |
| 16:18.18 | fiphi | So what should I do instead? |
| 16:18.22 | Shirik | local _, _, _, _, _, class = GetItemInfo(bag, slot) |
| 16:18.45 | fiphi | Is my code correct as in will it run? |
| 16:18.55 | Shirik | sure |
| 16:18.58 | fiphi | Alright, thanks. |
| 16:18.59 | Shirik | but it is quite easy to make code that is wrong |
| 16:19.01 | Shirik | and still bad |
| 16:19.04 | Shirik | er |
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| 16:19.08 | Shirik | that runs,and is still bad |
| 16:19.23 | fiphi | Well, it's in the book so it's fine by me. |
| 16:19.25 | fiphi | :) |
| 16:19.34 | Shirik | what book? |
| 16:19.48 | fiphi | World of Warcraft Programming 2nd ed |
| 16:19.50 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 16:19.54 | Fisker | i'm looking forward to SC2 |
| 16:19.56 | Fisker | what about you? |
| 16:19.56 | Shirik | growls at jnwhiteh |
| 16:20.00 | A-KO | lol |
| 16:20.02 | Shirik | Fisker: I already have SC2 :) |
| 16:20.10 | Shirik | hoho! |
| 16:20.14 | Fisker | you can't play it |
| 16:20.15 | Fisker | so hoho yourself |
| 16:20.24 | Shirik | orly? |
| 16:20.26 | tem | Shirik, pong |
| 16:20.35 | Ressy | when did the 2nd ed come out? |
| 16:20.39 | Fisker | in that case they are atleast very stupid |
| 16:20.56 | Fisker | or they have possibly changed their minds |
| 16:20.56 | Kraps | Fisker: y so beta? |
| 16:21.07 | Fisker | i'm talking about SC2 and not SC2 Beta |
| 16:21.21 | Kraps | Fisker: y so beta? |
| 16:22.57 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 16:23.02 | Fisker | i will cheesy poof you |
| 16:23.10 | Kraps | yum |
| 16:23.39 | Shirik | tem |
| 16:23.40 | Kraps | unless thats a codeword for surprise buttsex |
| 16:23.42 | Shirik | we should make a 4v4 team |
| 16:23.45 | Kraps | then no |
| 16:23.45 | Shirik | Cide is up for it |
| 16:23.55 | tem | I dunno |
| 16:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: why do I always take your projects? |
| 16:24.03 | tem | I'm kind of bad at anything above 1v1 |
| 16:24.19 | tem | remember how terrible I am at dealing with the rush? |
| 16:26.08 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 what did I do now |
| 16:26.19 | Shirik | hey ScytheBlade1 want to be on a 4v4 team? |
| 16:27.01 | Fisker | i am a sick person Shirik |
| 16:27.20 | Kraps | Fisker: thats news how? |
| 16:27.24 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/MBvJr.png |
| 16:28.47 | Shirik | that looks like a fisker conversation |
| 16:28.57 | Fisker | how so? |
| 16:31.56 | tem | sigh |
| 16:31.57 | tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968668430&sid=2000 |
| 16:32.00 | tem | how do people like that get into beta |
| 16:32.12 | Fisker | i'm willing to take his spot |
| 16:33.03 | Fisker | he's not even that bad |
| 16:33.11 | nevcairiel | Makes me really sad, but i guess they want noobs as well |
| 16:33.12 | tem | I can look past the bad english beause he's on the EU realm |
| 16:33.23 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 16:33.23 | tem | but how can you be so uninformed about your class? |
| 16:33.48 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yesterday you said something like " ScytheBlade1 always take my projects |
| 16:33.51 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 16:33.53 | ScytheBlade1 | ??? |
| 16:33.54 | Shirik | I did? |
| 16:33.59 | Fisker | so SC2 |
| 16:34.01 | Fisker | err |
| 16:34.02 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 16:34.02 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 16:34.05 | Fisker | how do you SC2? |
| 16:34.06 | ScytheBlade1 | 21:49 <@Shirik> ScytheBlade1 inherits all of my projects |
| 16:34.10 | ScytheBlade1 | close enough |
| 16:35.27 | Fisker | it's so hot that my headphones are starting to melt |
| 16:35.31 | Shirik | when did I say that? |
| 16:35.41 | ScytheBlade1 | 21:49 EST yesterday :p |
| 16:35.45 | Shirik | oh hahaha |
| 16:35.48 | Shirik | (18:48:42) (@Shirik) if I don't come back |
| 16:35.57 | Shirik | you forgot that part |
| 16:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 16:36.07 | Fisker | that's a 2 hour difference |
| 16:36.09 | Fisker | i call lies! |
| 16:36.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I missed that part |
| 16:36.19 | Shirik | now |
| 16:36.20 | Shirik | 4v4 |
| 16:36.21 | Shirik | yes? |
| 16:36.24 | Shirik | well not NOW |
| 16:36.28 | Shirik | but yes? |
| 16:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | perhaps |
| 16:36.34 | Fisker | no |
| 16:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | man I can make one sexy looking lava island |
| 16:38.15 | Shirik | also |
| 16:38.16 | Shirik | tem |
| 16:38.17 | Shirik | replied :) |
| 16:40.11 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/SC2/lava-island.png |
| 16:40.31 | ScytheBlade1 | stupid bugged geysers :/ |
| 16:40.37 | Shirik | sweet |
| 16:40.47 | Shirik | is that the quality you get at ultra-high settings? |
| 16:40.52 | cbreak | you have pink geysers too :) |
| 16:41.05 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 16:41.12 | cbreak | maybe gaysers. hmm. |
| 16:41.40 | Fisker | btw |
| 16:41.45 | Fisker | Protoss are OP |
| 16:41.55 | Fisker | they have self-refining refineries |
| 16:41.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Protoss are awesome |
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| 16:44.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: refresh |
| 16:44.03 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 16:44.05 | Fisker | you suck |
| 16:44.07 | ScytheBlade1 | that is ultra, zoomed out a bit |
| 16:44.09 | Fisker | wanna make out? |
| 16:45.04 | ScytheBlade1 | epic thread http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25968568361&sid=5000 |
| 16:45.26 | Fisker | it's over 4999 |
| 16:47.50 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 16:47.56 | Fisker | are you getting the CE? |
| 16:48.22 | Shirik | affirmative, good sir |
| 16:48.30 | Shirik | already preordered |
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| 16:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | anyone know offhand how to create terrain that you can see through to the map background? similar to the SC1 space tileset, where you would just delete the terrain and you would see the stars and whatnot |
| 16:50.19 | kd3 | didn't they show that in one of the sc2 gameplay preview vids? |
| 16:50.31 | ScytheBlade1 | show how to do it? or that it exists? |
| 16:50.45 | kd3 | it exists, or existed rather |
| 16:50.51 | kd3 | hasn't played with the sc2 map maker |
| 16:50.51 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah it exists |
| 16:50.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I just can't figure out how to do it |
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| 16:53.48 | Shirik | tackles Seerah |
| 16:54.08 | Shirik | time for run bye |
| 16:54.46 | Seerah | tickles Shirik |
| 16:55.40 | Kraps | Fisker: is a very Big bad surprize for me :( |
| 16:56.24 | Fisker | baw Shirik |
| 16:56.27 | Fisker | i hope they sold out |
| 16:56.33 | Fisker | and didn't tell you or anything |
| 16:56.34 | Fisker | also kd3 |
| 16:56.37 | Fisker | i think i like you |
| 16:57.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: this is what you're doing: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/troll-troll-troll-your-boat.png |
| 16:57.46 | Fisker | no ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:00.13 | Fisker | lets travel through time |
| 17:01.06 | A-KO | after all these years, rogues can still stunlock :( |
| 17:01.36 | NiLon | A-KO rogues are suppose to do that rite? |
| 17:13.38 | Kraps | people will find anything to complain about |
| 17:13.40 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969518578&sid=2000 |
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| 17:20.21 | Kraps | New Apple Friend Bar Gives Customers Someone To Talk At About Mac Products http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ZnwvyAk8k&feature=digest |
| 17:24.22 | Fisker | come to me Shirik |
| 17:25.19 | Kraps | dont do it Shirik its a trap! |
| 17:26.47 | Fisker | lol iStore Kraps |
| 17:35.30 | Kraps | almost 1 billion health? http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l305/roweysvn/dragons.jpg |
| 17:38.18 | mikma | seems like it |
| 17:40.00 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: that code is not in my book |
| 17:40.06 | jnwhiteh | so I'm not sure what fiphi was saying. |
| 17:44.15 | mikma | you're on my book, jnwhiteh |
| 17:45.14 | foxlit | Kraps: there's a copy of Arthas with 13k hp |
| 17:45.27 | Kraps | lol |
| 17:45.52 | foxlit | Unfortunatelly, he's invulnerable in cutscenes. |
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| 17:50.43 | Kraps | in the just over 2 years of playing i've paid for 4 transfers |
| 17:51.45 | Kraps | is that a little, a lot or w/e? |
| 17:52.06 | olafski | some guy on quakenet transfered about 4 of his chars at least 4 times I think |
| 17:52.25 | olafski | wasn't very good at making friends (or keeping them), but he always blamed others for it.. kinda cute really |
| 17:57.14 | Kraps | We view Arms as a soldier, like a career military infantryman. Think Gladiator. We view Fury as the wild berserker from up in the hills. Think Braveheart or Conan. It's easy to argue that bleeds or mobility fit one or the other depending on your point of view. Arms feels tactical (in the sense of having an answer for various situations) and Fury feels reckless. The Arms warrior has pet names... |
| 17:57.15 | Kraps | ...for all his weapons, while the Fury warrior shows up for battle drunk and half clothed. |
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| 18:00.31 | cogwheel | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/01/12/how-to-let-him-know/ |
| 18:03.27 | Kraps | "the adobe flash plugin has crashed" herpderp |
| 18:06.38 | Fisker | how can you let me live like this cogwheel ? |
| 18:08.23 | Fisker | help me cogwheel |
| 18:08.25 | Fisker | heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp |
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| 18:10.05 | Shirik | jnwhiteh <3 |
| 18:11.42 | Fisker | help me Shirik |
| 18:11.47 | Shirik | help me Fisker |
| 18:12.33 | Fisker | help me Shirik |
| 18:12.48 | Kraps | Fisker: the only solution is cupcakes |
| 18:13.21 | Fisker | no |
| 18:15.29 | Kraps | delicious cupcakes |
| 18:18.29 | Kraps | they should just remove spell pushback :( |
| 18:18.49 | Kraps | or leave the default at 70% |
| 18:20.25 | Fisker | give me google tv Shirik |
| 18:20.33 | Shirik | this really bothers me |
| 18:20.47 | Kraps | ? |
| 18:20.48 | Shirik | does anyone else think that "miss universe" is a very egotistical title? |
| 18:20.58 | Shirik | Who are we to say that we are the only ones in the universe, or that the most beautiful person lives here |
| 18:21.14 | Kraps | facepalms @ Shirik |
| 18:21.21 | Fisker | duh Shirik |
| 18:21.22 | Shirik | what |
| 18:21.59 | Fisker | i find it unlikely that anybody looks like humanoids! |
| 18:22.11 | Shirik | exactly |
| 18:22.14 | Shirik | maybe there's something better |
| 18:22.42 | Cralor` | random, but great point |
| 18:22.47 | Kraps | Shirik: "i personally believe that US Americans and such as" |
| 18:22.54 | Fisker | exactly not Shirik |
| 18:23.06 | Fisker | because only humanoids will be attractive to humanoids |
| 18:23.13 | Shirik | proof? |
| 18:23.27 | Fisker | your mom Shirik |
| 18:23.37 | Kraps | no hes right |
| 18:23.45 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 18:23.47 | Shirik | {{citation needed} |
| 18:23.54 | Fisker | if it wasn't true Shirik's mom would've made out with a horse |
| 18:23.57 | Kraps | Fisker: is right |
| 18:24.01 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:24.06 | Shirik | {{or}} |
| 18:24.27 | Kraps | Asari are hot, female Elcor are not |
| 18:24.31 | Kraps | see? |
| 18:24.42 | Shirik | who? |
| 18:24.52 | Kraps | l2masseffect |
| 18:25.13 | Kraps | (are there even female Elcor?) |
| 18:26.21 | Dagmar | How could you even tell |
| 18:26.24 | Shirik | hahhaa |
| 18:26.27 | Shirik | ~wiki eating pussy |
| 18:26.29 | Fisker | i like you Dagmar |
| 18:27.07 | Kraps | "This article needs additional citations for verification." lolololo |
| 18:27.22 | Dagmar | Quarians are probably hotter |
| 18:27.26 | Cide | ScytheBlade1, of course you should join us |
| 18:27.28 | Cide | stop being a pussy |
| 18:27.30 | Kraps | wait its a redirect |
| 18:28.04 | Dagmar | He'd stolen a couple of boats |
| 18:28.05 | Cide | you too tem |
| 18:28.06 | Kraps | Shirik rfd? |
| 18:28.06 | Dagmar | wrong chn |
| 18:28.30 | Kraps | R3 my bad |
| 18:28.49 | Kraps | doing it Shirik |
| 18:28.50 | Shirik | I don't touch redirects |
| 18:29.10 | Shirik | However I would consider it a G3/R3 mix |
| 18:29.45 | Dagmar | Is there a flag you can apply to maybe let editors who are virgins know they should just ignore it? |
| 18:29.52 | Fisker | if you delete that redirect we will never be friends again Shirik |
| 18:30.02 | Shirik | Fisker: (11:28:02) (@Shirik) I don't touch redirects |
| 18:30.04 | Kraps | Fisker: i csd'd it |
| 18:30.17 | Fisker | yeah i figured you made it Shirik |
| 18:30.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: LOL |
| 18:30.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: sorry, caps |
| 18:30.32 | Cide | it's okay should you join us |
| 18:30.33 | Fisker | csd Kraps ? |
| 18:30.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:30.38 | Cide | otherwise I'm extremely offended by your caps |
| 18:30.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Relentless resolve, I see |
| 18:30.50 | Shirik | It's already been contested Kraps :) |
| 18:31.00 | Kraps | criteria for speedy deletion Fisker |
| 18:31.19 | Kraps | where? |
| 18:31.29 | Fisker | fuck you Kraps |
| 18:31.38 | Kraps | stfu trool |
| 18:31.56 | Fisker | i trool u |
| 18:31.57 | Cide | trool |
| 18:31.59 | Cide | that's funny |
| 18:32.22 | Kraps | now it goes to Cunnilingus |
| 18:32.26 | Kraps | wtf |
| 18:32.47 | Fisker | i made out with your mother Cide |
| 18:32.52 | Cide | seems more appropriate |
| 18:33.19 | Cide | Fisker, oh cool |
| 18:33.20 | Kraps | and i got admonished :( |
| 18:33.23 | Cide | did you enjoy yourself? |
| 18:33.39 | Fisker | no |
| 18:33.45 | Fisker | i only did it to spite you |
| 18:33.49 | Cide | ah |
| 18:33.54 | Cide | good to know |
| 18:34.12 | Shirik | Kraps: I already yelled at that guy too tbh |
| 18:34.41 | Shirik | then we decided to redirect it somewhere else |
| 18:34.44 | Cide | wow |
| 18:34.47 | Cide | amazing save by spain |
| 18:34.54 | Cide | err |
| 18:35.44 | Kraps | Shirik what guy |
| 18:35.55 | Shirik | the guy that contested your CSD |
| 18:37.08 | ScytheBlade1 | man you can create some epic looking maps with the galaxy editor |
| 18:37.15 | Fisker | what guy who contested his CSD? |
| 18:37.29 | Kraps | yeah i dont see it |
| 18:38.55 | Cide | by spain I meant netherlands |
| 18:38.59 | Cide | ScytheBlade1, yep |
| 18:40.26 | Kraps | wow they changed mastery a bit |
| 18:40.43 | Fisker | new build or what? |
| 18:40.54 | A-KO | no new build today.... |
| 18:40.59 | A-KO | the last new build was when they announced beta |
| 18:41.06 | Fisker | old |
| 18:41.18 | A-KO | they need ot hurry up and put out the new talent trees and shit soon |
| 18:41.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:41.20 | Kraps | stfu trool |
| 18:41.25 | Shirik | 4v4 |
| 18:41.28 | Shirik | with me and cide |
| 18:41.31 | Shirik | and someone else |
| 18:42.01 | Fisker | and me |
| 18:42.11 | Shirik | you have no beta key hoho |
| 18:42.14 | Fisker | i do |
| 18:42.22 | Shirik | not US |
| 18:42.23 | Fisker | i have had like 8 |
| 18:42.30 | Fisker | why do you hate me? |
| 18:42.34 | Fisker | WHY DO YOU DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ME? |
| 18:42.56 | Shirik | Because you are not american |
| 18:43.16 | Fisker | i can't believe such intolerance is tolerated(GEDDIT?) here :( |
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| 18:43.48 | Kraps | ...'s |
| 18:43.51 | Shirik | why do you not tolerate my intolerance? |
| 18:44.11 | Fisker | why so srs Kraps ? |
| 18:44.47 | Fisker | i do tolerate your intolerance, it's the lack of tolerance i do not tolerate |
| 18:45.02 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/SC2/lava-central.jpg |
| 18:45.31 | ScytheBlade1 | amazing looking stuff in not a long period of time |
| 18:45.49 | Sixen | sbo, you have that issue too? |
| 18:45.53 | Sixen | vespene texture ismia |
| 18:45.56 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 18:46.01 | ScytheBlade1 | annoying =[ |
| 18:46.54 | Fisker | Sixen |
| 18:46.58 | Fisker | why does Shirik hate me? |
| 18:47.37 | Fisker | and who's mia? |
| 18:47.39 | Fisker | she sounds hot |
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| 18:47.59 | Cide- | Hi |
| 18:48.12 | Fisker | Cide |
| 18:48.45 | Cide- | Did you manage to coerce sbo shirik |
| 18:48.47 | Sixen | lol |
| 18:48.54 | Shirik | he is ignoring me |
| 18:49.00 | ScytheBlade1 | So is everyone else |
| 18:49.05 | Shirik | see |
| 18:49.05 | ScytheBlade1 | (zing!) |
| 18:49.13 | Cide- | What a bitch |
| 18:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm kinda mapping right now |
| 18:49.40 | Fisker | bitch |
| 18:49.51 | Cide- | You have a few hours |
| 18:50.16 | Cide- | Brb |
| 18:51.11 | ScytheBlade1 | I think that Char Rock is my new favorite texture |
| 18:52.00 | Xinhuan | anohter yellow card |
| 18:52.03 | Xinhuan | so rough |
| 18:52.44 | Xinhuan | rofl yet another one |
| 18:53.07 | kd3 | good grief |
| 18:53.14 | kd3 | this is going to be a violent one |
| 18:53.43 | Xinhuan | that's 4 yellows in 23 min |
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| 18:54.06 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 18:54.13 | Fisker | giving me the beta is going to be violent+ |
| 18:54.19 | kd3 | sure, sure it is |
| 18:54.46 | Kraps | soz your mom Fisker |
| 18:54.49 | fiphi | jnwhiteh: Huh? |
| 18:55.02 | Fisker | but you must do it kd3 |
| 18:55.17 | fiphi | jnwhiteh: No, that code snippet isn't in your book. I didn't mean that either. :p |
| 18:55.21 | fiphi | But using select, at all, is. |
| 18:56.41 | Kraps | is currently listening to Theory Of A Deadman - Bad Girlfriend |
| 18:56.57 | fiphi | jnwhiteh: I asked him if my code was correct, runnable, and his comment was that I should use dummy variables instead, so I said that using select is mentioned in your book. |
| 18:57.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Sixen: any way to fix the geyser texture? |
| 18:57.35 | Sixen | Not sure :| |
| 18:57.38 | Sixen | It might jsut be missing |
| 18:57.47 | ScytheBlade1 | The space platform one has a texture |
| 18:57.56 | ScytheBlade1 | The stock one doesn't |
| 18:58.06 | Sixen | Could find the correct texture in the last patch file and import it into the current one |
| 18:58.10 | Spejnar | fiphi: select or dummy vars "_" should both work |
| 18:58.18 | fiphi | Spejnar: Yeah, I know. |
| 18:58.20 | Xinhuan | hahaha +1 yellow |
| 18:58.23 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 18:58.26 | ScytheBlade1 | or even the *map* |
| 18:58.40 | fiphi | Spejnar: I wanted to use select and the comment I got back was "use dummies". |
| 18:58.44 | kd3 | good grief... what a kick |
| 18:58.45 | olafski | xinhuan: ;) |
| 18:58.48 | Cide- | That was nasty |
| 18:58.53 | olafski | rather |
| 18:58.53 | kd3 | he only got yellowed for that? |
| 18:58.59 | Spejnar | fiphi: from the teacher? |
| 18:59.03 | fiphi | Spejnar: No, from Shirik. |
| 18:59.03 | olafski | well it didn't look like it was on purpose |
| 18:59.05 | Xinhuan | i wonder what teh record is |
| 18:59.06 | Spejnar | fiphi: ah |
| 18:59.12 | fiphi | Spejnar: Are you always as random? :) |
| 18:59.19 | Spejnar | fiphi: 17, and yes |
| 18:59.25 | fiphi | 17? |
| 18:59.41 | Spejnar | penis on a platter |
| 18:59.49 | Spejnar | just use select, its enough for the assignment |
| 19:00.27 | fiphi | Yeah, I did. Think it's all done now, was a really confusing one, how they arrange it. |
| 19:00.59 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIL-DwYz2xQ < video taken on an iphone 4, if anyone's interested :P |
| 19:01.09 | Spejnar | you thought so? I thought it was pretty cake, my biggest problem, other than it killing my chars was I had an event handler interrupting |
| 19:02.03 | fiphi | Spejnar: The way they do the assignments, by handing out the majority of the code and saying "add this, this and this", referring to insufficient chapters and then I'm supposed to understand the entire context, what goes where, etc. Would be loads better to build the entire code oneself, smaller at first. |
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| 19:02.22 | fiphi | I don't see the flow this way, by copying BagBuddy code and adjusting it. |
| 19:02.31 | Spejnar | well ye |
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| 19:02.56 | Cide- | Grr |
| 19:04.15 | Cide- | Can't seem to turn off the nick list in this android chat client |
| 19:05.00 | fiphi | An Android IRC client? Sweet; which one? |
| 19:05.24 | Fisker | old |
| 19:05.28 | Cide- | Android IRC |
| 19:05.49 | fiphi | Hmkmay. |
| 19:05.56 | fiphi | Anything worth having? |
| 19:06.03 | fiphi | I have an SSH client, using my ordinary shell as it is now. |
| 19:06.07 | nevcairiel | I used AndChat |
| 19:06.07 | cogwheel | Cide-: lern2 ssh+screen+irssi |
| 19:06.22 | Jamash | screen is awesome |
| 19:06.28 | Cide- | Cleary |
| 19:06.36 | Jamash | beverly? |
| 19:06.40 | A-KO | ronery |
| 19:06.56 | Cide- | Clearly. |
| 19:07.13 | Jamash | Third base! |
| 19:08.28 | Kraps | Jamash: :o |
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| 19:08.43 | Jamash | I used to have Who's On First memorized |
| 19:08.59 | olafski | grr damn wireless |
| 19:09.03 | Kraps | my brother and i call something nonsensical "third base" |
| 19:09.18 | Jamash | yeah, that's pretty much how the sketch goes |
| 19:09.32 | olafski | anyone remember how I can "unstuck" a screen session? :S |
| 19:09.34 | Dagmar | You guys must have a fucked up dating life |
| 19:09.41 | Jamash | Screen -R -D? |
| 19:09.46 | Cide- | Ah |
| 19:09.54 | Jamash | s/S/s/ |
| 19:09.57 | olafski | hm |
| 19:09.59 | olafski | I'll try that next time |
| 19:10.09 | Cide- | Search button toggles user list |
| 19:10.10 | Spejnar | screen -rd |
| 19:10.11 | olafski | quite odd that it "hangs" when my connection drops |
| 19:10.47 | Jamash | what do you mean hangs? |
| 19:11.01 | olafski | I can type but nothing happens, and the irc windows don't update anymore |
| 19:11.04 | Jamash | oh |
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| 19:11.07 | Jamash | hmm, no idea |
| 19:11.10 | olafski | but I can still detach and reattach and such |
| 19:11.20 | olafski | it was something like ^Q but I tried that and it didn't work :( |
| 19:11.24 | Jamash | try hitting it with a wiffle bat |
| 19:11.37 | olafski | good idea |
| 19:11.56 | Gnarfoz | olafski: did you ctrl-s beforehand? then ctrl-q would be the solution |
| 19:12.02 | Cide- | Another yellow? |
| 19:12.20 | Gnarfoz | (I'd probably unbind that using stty, it's utterly useless to be able to control XON/XOFF that way) |
| 19:12.21 | Cide- | Doesn't look like it |
| 19:12.21 | Jamash | oh great |
| 19:12.35 | olafski | how do I unbind that? that would help a lot gnarfoz ;) |
| 19:12.43 | Gnarfoz | man stty |
| 19:12.47 | Jamash | I'm going to Azshara to do some fishing, and Azuregos is yelling at me |
| 19:13.00 | Gnarfoz | and I think screen might also have a way of doing it, I don't recall |
| 19:13.11 | olafski | but in this case I didn't do ^S.. just got disconnected from wireless |
| 19:14.07 | Cide- | Stop getting disconnected from wireless imo |
| 19:14.20 | olafski | yeah I'd prefer that ;) |
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| 19:15.50 | olafski | just plugged in a wire instead :P |
| 19:15.58 | olafski | missed! |
| 19:16.16 | Cide- | Good thing you weren't wire-less |
| 19:16.30 | olafski | :DDD |
| 19:16.31 | olafski | nice one |
| 19:16.38 | Jamash | Did I mention the time my server went offline for a while, and it turned out my dad had swapped the Cat-5 cable for telephone line? |
| 19:16.48 | olafski | why did he just swap a cable? :S |
| 19:17.01 | Jamash | it was something about lengths |
| 19:17.04 | olafski | oh |
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| 19:17.27 | olafski | despite the disconnection from wireless, which is probably my router's fault, I'm quite happy with the new laptop work gave me .. never had a laptop before |
| 19:17.29 | Blia | hello |
| 19:17.55 | olafski | hai |
| 19:18.02 | Cide- | Hi |
| 19:18.23 | Cide- | Lua.org/pil |
| 19:18.28 | olafski | :D |
| 19:18.58 | Jamash | laptops are awesome |
| 19:19.06 | olafski | :) |
| 19:19.29 | nevcairiel | that reminds me to request a work laptop tomorrow |
| 19:19.44 | olafski | heh |
| 19:19.53 | nevcairiel | i forgot last week =/ |
| 19:19.55 | olafski | if I could request stuff I'd probably just request a raise ;) |
| 19:20.28 | nevcairiel | I just order it through our IT portal, and my boss has to sign off on the cost for it, which shouldnt be a problem |
| 19:22.08 | olafski | mkay |
| 19:23.44 | Shirik | you have to order it? |
| 19:23.46 | Shirik | wtf is this |
| 19:23.54 | Shirik | we just have a ton of hardware lying around |
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| 19:24.01 | Shirik | need an 8 core computer? no problem, let me go to the back room and get it |
| 19:24.11 | olafski | I just started working there, should've gotten my laptop last week but it wasn't delivered yet |
| 19:24.12 | Shirik | need a 5th monitor? ok here you go |
| 19:24.50 | nevcairiel | all the stuff is leased, so it needs to be kept track of |
| 19:25.09 | Blia | is it allowed to modify images of GUIs (for example : InspectFrame), changing their height, width.. with BLPConverter.exe and add them inside an addon ? |
| 19:25.20 | Shirik | we just have GPS in all of our computers :) |
| 19:25.27 | Shirik | or something like that |
| 19:25.35 | Blia | to sum up: is it possible to modify Blizzard images.. |
| 19:25.37 | Gnarfoz | GPS, that makes sense |
| 19:25.44 | nevcairiel | gps is easy to block .. like, just put it indoors |
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| 19:25.50 | Shirik | it has two things in it |
| 19:25.58 | Shirik | one allows you to remotely tell it to wipe itself |
| 19:26.02 | Shirik | and one helps you track it down |
| 19:26.19 | Gnarfoz | neither of which work when you don't connect it to the internet? ^^ |
| 19:26.26 | Shirik | I don't know how it works only IT does |
| 19:26.28 | Shirik | I just know they exist |
| 19:26.38 | nevcairiel | I would've poked around in it |
| 19:26.45 | Shirik | I don't think the "wipe itself" thing requires the internet, it's a separate hardware device |
| 19:27.00 | Shirik | it might |
| 19:27.01 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 19:27.22 | Dagmar | What? |
| 19:27.30 | olafski | do tomtom systems use something other than gps btw? |
| 19:27.32 | Cide- | Who wants a computer without internet anyway |
| 19:27.41 | olafski | mine kept updating my position inside a parking garage (underground) |
| 19:28.12 | Cide- | Probably combines it with an accelerometer |
| 19:28.15 | Dagmar | The laptop lojac software can use a GPS unit but damn few PCs *have* a GPS unit in them |
| 19:28.22 | Dagmar | ...plus, they don't work for shit indoors. |
| 19:28.41 | olafski | hmm |
| 19:28.51 | Dagmar | Remote-wipe *invariably* involves internet access unless you've got 3G or something built in |
| 19:29.02 | Fisker | i burped Shirik |
| 19:29.35 | Cide- | Or radio or any kind of remote communication |
| 19:29.37 | Dagmar | olafski: That's just weird. THey might have cell repeaters for down there |
| 19:29.51 | Mikk | cell repeaters would do sodall |
| 19:29.54 | Dagmar | ...but last I checked TomTom had actual GPS and no AGPS |
| 19:30.00 | Mikk | sat repeaters maybe but er... no =) |
| 19:30.11 | Dagmar | Mikk: Your point? |
| 19:30.18 | Mikk | my point is that you have no point :P |
| 19:30.24 | Dagmar | Who has no point |
| 19:30.35 | Jamash | alt.pave.azshara |
| 19:30.39 | Mikk | wth does a cell repeater have to do with a gps system seeing that it moves |
| 19:30.50 | Dagmar | Mikk: Do you know what AGPS is? |
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| 19:31.19 | Mikk | aha - no. i only grok good old standard gps. |
| 19:31.19 | Cide | it uses the current cell tower to lower the scan area |
| 19:31.33 | Fisker | i'm a very sick person Cide |
| 19:31.34 | nevcairiel | AGPS usually only is used to get the initial lock faster |
| 19:31.41 | Dagmar | It's the crap "almost" GPS more formally called "Assisted GPS" that most cell phones have |
| 19:31.43 | Cide | that doesn't help for updating the position inside a garage at all though |
| 19:31.53 | Dagmar | It uses cell towers to get it's location |
| 19:31.59 | Cide | approximate location |
| 19:32.06 | Cide | it's still like a 500m radius |
| 19:32.16 | Dagmar | i.e., it hollers at the cellular network, and the cell network does all the work, and then reports a location back |
| 19:32.30 | Cide | it gives you the radius of the active cell tower |
| 19:32.36 | olafski | yeah it was kinda weird dagmar :P |
| 19:32.38 | Cide | doesn't help you move within a parking garage still |
| 19:32.38 | nevcairiel | cell locations are usually too inaccurate to update in a parging garage accurately =p |
| 19:32.44 | Dagmar | Tomtom might have been winging it with an accellerometer |
| 19:32.48 | olafski | not like I really need directions inside a parking garage, but I just expected it would show "no signal" |
| 19:33.02 | Cide | did I just win |
| 19:33.05 | Cide | <Cide-> Probably combines it with an accelerometer |
| 19:33.07 | Mikk | or mebbe the gps sat of doom was pointing in your general direction |
| 19:33.08 | Mikk | you know |
| 19:33.13 | Mikk | the ones that make our kids look funny |
| 19:33.19 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 19:33.22 | Dagmar | nevcariel: Yeah but if there was cell service down there it's the only thing I can figure other than an accellerometer that would let you even come close to keeping location info updated |
| 19:34.09 | Mikk | accelerometer in a gps unit sounds a bit "whoa" .. but maybe high end ones do that that |
| 19:34.19 | Dagmar | I would not expect a satellite signal to penetrate through more than a few inches of reinforced concrete |
| 19:34.47 | olafski | well it's built into the car, maybe it can get some info from the car itself? |
| 19:34.53 | Dagmar | Mikk: Well, by part they're slightly cheaper than a GPS chip, although *neither* are particularly expeensive |
| 19:34.56 | Fisker | how is AGPS crap? |
| 19:35.07 | nevcairiel | sure, they can use the data from the car in what direction it was moving, speed, etc |
| 19:35.16 | Dagmar | Fisker: Because it's the crappiest form of GPS you can get |
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| 19:35.27 | Dagmar | _Actual_ GPS can work on it's own |
| 19:35.29 | Mikk | lal.. compass + speedometer |
| 19:35.33 | Shirik | Dagmar: I have neither any idea of how accurate it is nor any idea of how it works |
| 19:35.34 | Mikk | that works :P |
| 19:35.39 | Dagmar | If your cell phone is off-plan, AGPS will take a dog's age to get a lock |
| 19:35.41 | Shirik | I just know it works |
| 19:36.09 | Shirik | and suffice to say, when you're talking about material covered by EAR/ITAR, you're willing to pay an extra penny for stuff that is very unusual |
| 19:36.22 | Mikk | olafski: compass heading + getting a read off your trip meter would do the trick for sure =) |
| 19:36.26 | Dagmar | More importantly, your cell phone can claim to have AGPS with no GPS capabilities of it's own, at all |
| 19:36.39 | olafski | yeah guess that was it then |
| 19:37.21 | Mikk | AGPS = "TEH CELLPHONE COMPANIES & BIG BROTHER ARE SPYING ON J000" |
| 19:37.40 | Dagmar | You joke, but it's kind of hard to argue that |
| 19:37.59 | Fisker | Dagmar i would say GPS systems that can work outside of coverage areas > GPS |
| 19:38.08 | Fisker | seems kind of duh to me |
| 19:38.17 | Pneumatus | ooh, monkey island 2 remake on steam :o |
| 19:38.24 | Pneumatus | wonder how long that's been there |
| 19:38.29 | Dagmar | A lot of these phones, you can't even get to cough up the coordinates GPS is detecting. It's either off (unless you dial 911) or it's on and no one but the phone company can poll the location |
| 19:38.31 | mikma | http://www.break.com/index/families-home-destroyed-by-f4-tornado.html |
| 19:39.00 | Mikk | "no one but the phone company " |
| 19:39.10 | Fisker | F4? |
| 19:39.14 | Dagmar | Fisker: Yeah, that's why AGPS is kinda dirty dealing. People expect GPS to be something that listens for GPS sat signals |
| 19:39.20 | Fisker | atleast it wasn't the F5 tornados that just keep refreshing |
| 19:39.30 | Fisker | It does when it can |
| 19:40.40 | Mikk | "Look! An F4 tornado is heading straight for us. Let's stand still and film it!!!1" |
| 19:40.59 | Dagmar | People ain't real bright like that |
| 19:41.34 | MentalPower | Dagmar: the geolocation you are refering to is not AGPS, its the E911 stuff that uses cell triangulation for location information |
| 19:42.13 | MentalPower | AGPS just assists the GPN receiver on the cellphone so it doesn't have to listen for 15mins before it gets a lock (to get all the constellation information downloaded from the GPS signal) |
| 19:42.23 | MentalPower | s/GPN/GPS/ |
| 19:43.23 | Kraps | Fisker: an F4 has a chance of alting and destroying everything |
| 19:43.39 | olafski | a lot of yellow |
| 19:43.41 | Cide- | Two more yellows |
| 19:43.44 | olafski | still a boring match though :P |
| 19:43.44 | olafski | two? |
| 19:43.58 | Cide- | Just a minute ago also |
| 19:44.01 | olafski | oh |
| 19:44.04 | Dagmar | MentalPower: E911 uses triangulation (which is exactly what AGPS does) when GPS from the phone is not available |
| 19:44.25 | olafski | I'm not really following.. don't care much about soccer but since it's the final and it's "our team" I'm sitting on the sofa instead of at my pc :P |
| 19:45.06 | Cide- | Spain or Holland? |
| 19:45.10 | olafski | holland |
| 19:45.17 | Cide- | Ah |
| 19:45.24 | olafski | would be fun if they win, the atmosphere in the streets is great |
| 19:45.25 | Dagmar | Mentalpower: Being that I've had units in my hands that were not built into cell phones and could get a lock in a matter of seconds from a cold boot, it pisses me off |
| 19:45.39 | Cide- | You're playing rough |
| 19:45.40 | Dagmar | ...and there's no "downloading" from a GPS signal that I've ever noted |
| 19:45.43 | olafski | quite |
| 19:45.51 | MentalPower | Dagmar: Yes, E911 falls back to cell tower triangulation when there is no GPS. but what I'm saying is that APGS is not cell tower triangulation |
| 19:45.52 | olafski | that kick earlier was very hard |
| 19:45.54 | olafski | must've hurt |
| 19:46.05 | Cide- | Yep |
| 19:46.13 | olafski | didn't look like it was on purpose though |
| 19:46.20 | MentalPower | Dagmar: possibly pre-downloaded, it only takes about 40 secs to download a full almanac (not 15mins as I previously said) |
| 19:46.22 | Cide- | Should've been a red card |
| 19:46.24 | olafski | but I have too much faith in mankind for this I think |
| 19:46.46 | olafski | a lot of cards I've seen so far I was like "what, that was by accident, why punish him" |
| 19:47.02 | MentalPower | my point is that APGS just sends the almanac to the cellphone so it can inmediately utilize the GPS timecodes without having to wait for the almanac to figure out what its listening to |
| 19:47.12 | Cide- | Doesn't matter that much |
| 19:47.42 | Cide- | But accidents make the penalties slightly more lenient |
| 19:47.46 | olafski | I'm thinking too much "it's just a game, they wouldn't just hurt their opponents to win would they" |
| 19:48.20 | olafski | yeah I guess accidents should be punished too in some cases |
| 19:48.21 | Dagmar | starting with an empty almanac isn't a necessity |
| 19:48.23 | Cide- | Well I don't think they do it to hurt |
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| 19:48.29 | olafski | meh, just not my thing I guess :P |
| 19:48.41 | olafski | well our commenter on tv seemed to imply the brazilians tried to hurt our players |
| 19:48.48 | Cide- | But it may be intentional your other reasons |
| 19:48.57 | Dagmar | I know the yello Garmin I paid a mint for long ago didn't bother. You were getting data within seconds of turning it on |
| 19:48.59 | Fisker | Dagmar your units must suck |
| 19:49.02 | olafski | oh that was an exciting move :) |
| 19:49.04 | kd3 | lol... redridge quest completion text: "I knew it! Looks like Yowler is behind this uprising - which is incredible, because we keep killing gnolls named Yowler. I don't know how many sons the original Yowler had, but it's got to be close to a hundred." |
| 19:49.09 | Fisker | mine gets a lock in like 5 seconds as well |
| 19:49.17 | Fisker | and the only wifi in miles is my own |
| 19:49.28 | Fisker | and it's not geolocated yet, so agps wouldn't even work |
| 19:50.30 | MentalPower | Dagmar: that is also true, some higher end units just start calculating right away and get progressively more accurate as the almanac is downloaded and analyzed. This is also what AGPS does. it starts with the cell tower's location and coverage radius and gets progressively more accurate as the GPS chip in the cellphone starts locking onto the GPS signals |
| 19:50.47 | A-KO | oh wow |
| 19:50.54 | A-KO | they added a tunnel between Arathi and the Hinterlands now |
| 19:50.57 | A-KO | dwarven tunnel |
| 19:51.00 | Dagmar | I noticed. I have a phone that has "AGPS". It's freaking deplorable |
| 19:51.04 | Fisker | why so ohwow? |
| 19:51.13 | MentalPower | Dagmar: how so? |
| 19:51.23 | Cide- | Welcome to years ago A-KO |
| 19:51.29 | A-KO | lol Cide- |
| 19:51.31 | Cide- | Oh |
| 19:51.36 | olafski | there's been a tunnel there for years? :S |
| 19:51.36 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:51.37 | A-KO | I haven't done as much exploring on beta as I could have.. |
| 19:51.42 | Dagmar | Because unless I'm standing in the middle of a parking lot it's going to be a good 10 minutes before I get anything approaching reasonable accuracy out of it |
| 19:51.44 | Cide- | Maybe it wasn't a tunnel |
| 19:51.46 | A-KO | I don't remember that tunnel... |
| 19:51.47 | Fisker | for that remark you should give me your bet access |
| 19:51.52 | A-KO | lol Fisker |
| 19:51.56 | Fisker | beta* |
| 19:52.06 | A-KO | that tunnel wasn't there boefre |
| 19:52.10 | Fisker | there's never been a path between arathi and hinterlands |
| 19:52.10 | MentalPower | in my AGPS phones, it takes about 10 secs from the start of the location search to ~10m accuracy |
| 19:52.13 | A-KO | it's like a direct path from Aerie Peak to Stromgarde... |
| 19:52.14 | Cide- | Never mind |
| 19:52.15 | Fisker | so it's definitely new in cataclysm |
| 19:52.26 | A-KO | Cide- is saying that my news of that is old |
| 19:52.31 | Fisker | they are |
| 19:52.32 | Dagmar | MentalPower: Youv'e got a data plan |
| 19:52.34 | A-KO | I'm sorry, I don't read cataclysm news sites/screenshots |
| 19:52.36 | Fisker | just not years old |
| 19:52.37 | A-KO | since well |
| 19:52.38 | A-KO | I can just |
| 19:52.39 | A-KO | fly around |
| 19:52.40 | A-KO | and look at it |
| 19:52.45 | olafski | where's stromgarde again :< |
| 19:52.46 | MentalPower | Dagmar: yeah |
| 19:52.46 | fiphi | Haha. |
| 19:52.50 | Fisker | beta now A-KO |
| 19:52.51 | fiphi | A-KO: Showoff. :D |
| 19:52.51 | A-KO | olafski: Arathi Highlands |
| 19:52.51 | olafski | isn't that in hillsbrad? |
| 19:52.53 | olafski | oh |
| 19:52.59 | Thunder_Child | http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/minor_differences/motorists.jpg *snicker* |
| 19:53.01 | olafski | what's that ruin in hillsbrad called again |
| 19:53.04 | A-KO | I tell you what, Vash'jir |
| 19:53.05 | A-KO | is... |
| 19:53.06 | A-KO | HUGE |
| 19:53.12 | A-KO | olafski: Southshore |
| 19:53.16 | Dagmar | MentalPower: Yeah, without the data plan, AGPS works like complete crap. Enough to where it might as well be considered not working at all |
| 19:53.17 | A-KO | (alliance pwned) :P |
| 19:53.52 | A-KO | Fisker: that trollbane prince you had to kill in Stromgarde is now a forsaken questgiver |
| 19:53.53 | A-KO | :P |
| 19:54.12 | olafski | a-ko: I meant in live, have no clue what happens in cataclysm :) |
| 19:54.43 | olafski | the one where you rescue thrall in CoT |
| 19:54.50 | A-KO | olafski: Durnholde Keep |
| 19:54.53 | olafski | oh doh |
| 19:54.55 | MentalPower | Dagmar: I consider that a fair trade-off, my phone is primarily a phone, the fact that it has a GPS receiver is a nice bonus. A handheld GPS on the otherhand, if it takes 10mins to sync, I might just get another |
| 19:55.03 | olafski | as I said CoT I was like "escape from dur.. oh duh" :P |
| 19:55.07 | A-KO | olafski: I honestly can't wait until the war of the ancients |
| 19:55.14 | A-KO | that is going to be an AWESOME raid |
| 19:55.21 | Dagmar | MentalPower: 10m to sync if you're outside would definitely be a cue to return it |
| 19:55.45 | Dagmar | MentalPower: the old Garmin unit I mentioned earlier even worked on freaking airplanes |
| 19:56.11 | MentalPower | Dagmar: if I'm going to go hiking, I'll take my dedicated GPS, if i'm going walking around a new city, I'll use my phone |
| 19:56.11 | Dagmar | ...although *what* it was reporting kinda made the mapping software go apeshit |
| 19:56.20 | MentalPower | lol |
| 19:56.27 | Thunder_Child | i think there needs to be a new law that you can only yell at sports games if you are on location |
| 19:56.35 | olafski | hahaha |
| 19:56.43 | Dagmar | It had no idea what do to about relocating 23,000 feet down |
| 19:56.47 | olafski | I can't imagine what the streets will look like here if holland wins |
| 19:56.51 | olafski | I doubt i'll get any sleep |
| 19:57.02 | MentalPower | olafski: go party with them :) |
| 19:57.10 | olafski | but I don't really care :P |
| 19:57.25 | Fisker | A-KO |
| 19:57.37 | Fisker | arathi highlands is the most atrocious questing hub in the history of questing hubs |
| 19:57.43 | Dagmar | I suspect if you pull that crap with Google Maps now, it'll figure out what flight your'e on and start with "Wait for the plane to land" |
| 19:57.44 | olafski | I just like to see the happy people :P |
| 19:57.51 | Fisker | do not want. |
| 19:58.10 | olafski | arathi isn't that bad for horde imo |
| 19:58.14 | olafski | quite bad for ally though |
| 19:58.17 | A-KO | Fisker: yes, yes it is--HOWEVER |
| 19:58.21 | A-KO | they are going to improve it |
| 19:58.23 | A-KO | so |
| 19:58.25 | A-KO | that's a good thing |
| 19:58.25 | MentalPower | Dagmar: honestly I think it ignores altitude |
| 19:58.29 | A-KO | god I hated those quests |
| 19:58.39 | A-KO | GO TO STROMGARDE, KILL THIS GUY, RUN BACK, TURN IN, GO TO STROMGARDE, KILL THIS GUY |
| 19:58.44 | A-KO | wash, rinse, repeat |
| 19:59.15 | Dagmar | MentalPower: Nah, Garmin Tripmate or whatever was telling us the altitude and airspeed. We thought it considered everything flat, too, until we saw it talking about being way the hell up in the air |
| 19:59.15 | A-KO | the Forsaken is making a HUGE push on northern EK though |
| 19:59.17 | A-KO | it's pretty insane |
| 19:59.19 | olafski | haha yeah |
| 19:59.30 | Kraps | they are very character building i here |
| 19:59.39 | Kraps | hear* |
| 19:59.40 | Dagmar | MentalPower: When the pilot called out our altitude on the intercom it was a clincher |
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| 20:00.10 | Fisker | why would you think everything is flat Dagmar ? |
| 20:00.19 | MentalPower | cool, but I was taking about google maps, I don't think their API takes in altitudes |
| 20:00.42 | Dagmar | MentalPower: By the way, when I go to a strange city, I buy a street map. Too many neighborhoods have areas where whipping out a fancy phone and consulting it for any length is just saying "Mug this tourist with expensive cell phone" |
| 20:00.51 | Kraps | Fisker: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11211.0 |
| 20:00.56 | Dagmar | s/have areas/are areas/; |
| 20:01.19 | wereHamster | MentalPower: but the w3c geolocation api provides altitude, and that's what google maps uses, isn't it? |
| 20:01.24 | Dagmar | MentalPower: Ah, yeah I think you could be right about hte API, but I've not looked |
| 20:01.55 | Dagmar | It might just assume you're on the ground _unless you tell it otherwise_, although there'd be not a lot of point excepting in a few cases (like bridges over other roads0 |
| 20:02.03 | MentalPower | Dagmar: yeah no kidding, I've only done it in larger cities (New York's time square comes to mind) but I would not risk it in less... civilized parts |
| 20:02.30 | MentalPower | wereHamster: the JS API has altitude, but google maps (as in maps.google.com) does not |
| 20:02.31 | Dagmar | It took me about 10 years of trips to Atlanta just to stop turning the wrong way off Peachtree |
| 20:02.38 | Blia | is it allowed to modify images of GUIs (for example : InspectFrame), changing their height, width.. with BLPConverter.exe and add them inside an addon ? |
| 20:02.44 | Dagmar | Good thing I speak 'dealer' |
| 20:02.51 | MentalPower | lol |
| 20:02.56 | Kraps | Q: "What about satellites? How do they orbit the Earth?" |
| 20:02.58 | Kraps | A: Since sustained spaceflight is not possible, satellites cannot orbit the Earth. The signals we supposedly receive from them are either broadcast from towers or any number of possible pseudolites. However, temporary space-flight is possible. |
| 20:03.04 | Kraps | herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp |
| 20:03.08 | MentalPower | Blia: I don't see why not |
| 20:03.21 | nevcairiel | wth Kraps |
| 20:03.25 | Blia | ok, thanks |
| 20:03.27 | MentalPower | Blia: most of the bar mods use derivative BLPs anyways |
| 20:04.18 | Kraps | nevcairiel: |
| 20:04.21 | Kraps | Q: "Why doesn't water run off the Earth?" |
| 20:04.22 | Kraps | A: There is a vast "ice wall" that keeps the water where it is. This explains why you can find a vast plane of ice as you travel southward. The wall is roughly 150ft high. In the McIntyre model, however, the height of the wall increases further as one moves toward the edge of the world. |
| 20:04.35 | Fisker | xD |
| 20:04.51 | Kraps | Q: "What about Lunar Eclipses?" |
| 20:04.53 | Kraps | A: A celestial body, known as the antimoon, passes between the sun and moon. This projects a shadow upon the moon. |
| 20:04.53 | Fisker | what about "Wizards just transport us to the other end" |
| 20:04.59 | Kraps | <3 antimoon |
| 20:05.04 | nevcairiel | wth are you reading |
| 20:05.19 | olafski | flat earth theory or something |
| 20:05.24 | olafski | that site can't be serious |
| 20:05.29 | Dagmar | Pfft. I know of much more disturbing things to read. Like... http://www.helium.com/items/1882339-doomsday-how-bp-gulf-disaster-may-have-triggered-a-world-killing-event |
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| 20:06.02 | A-KO | hmm |
| 20:06.03 | Dagmar | It's completely a coincidence that I've spent my morning looking around the web for someplace to buy a nice pair of goggles and breather maks |
| 20:06.12 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/browse/15171/darth_vader_in_love.jpg |
| 20:06.40 | Kraps | best answer evar |
| 20:06.42 | Kraps | Q: "How are the world governments organized to carry out this conspiracy?" |
| 20:06.44 | Kraps | A: Only those governments with space agencies that have actually been to space and produced round pictures of the Earth need be in on the Conspiracy. And even in those cases only a limited number of people within those governments need necessarily be involved. For the most part, even those in the highest positions of these governments are probably unaware of the Conspiracy. |
| 20:06.48 | nevcairiel | oh my, a female darth vader |
| 20:07.34 | Kraps | SO THE USSR AND THE USA WERE IN ON THE CONSPIRACY EVEN THOUGH THEY WANTED TO BLOW EACH OTHER UP |
| 20:07.40 | Kraps | YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
| 20:08.07 | olafski | united by a common enemy |
| 20:08.11 | Fisker | you don't even have to travel into space to confirm the earth is round :3 |
| 20:08.25 | olafski | I don't see a sphere |
| 20:08.25 | olafski | ! |
| 20:08.43 | Jamash | ships, horizon, etc |
| 20:08.44 | Kraps | Fisker: sorry |
| 20:08.46 | Kraps | Q: "NASA and other world space agencies have pictures of the Earth from space, and in those pictures the Earth is clearly a globe; in this day and age, hasn't it been proven beyond any doubt that the Earth is round?" |
| 20:08.48 | Kraps | A: NASA and the rest of the world's space agencies who claim to have been to space are involved in a Conspiracy to keep the shape of the Earth hidden. The pictures are faked using simple imaging software. |
| 20:09.00 | Jamash | right, because imaging software existed in the 60s |
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| 20:09.09 | olafski | they answer that in the next question jamash |
| 20:09.18 | mikma | cogwheel: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/1_sense.jpg |
| 20:09.26 | Kraps | Back then the pictures taken were of far lower quality and were likely produced using analog means. |
| 20:09.33 | nevcairiel | imho flat is also round |
| 20:09.36 | Jamash | mikma: log |
| 20:09.37 | nevcairiel | i mean, a cookie is round! |
| 20:09.40 | Jamash | err, lol |
| 20:09.42 | Kraps | Q: "Why is NASA's space shuttle runway curved?" |
| 20:09.44 | Kraps | A: It was specially constructed by NASA to be so. After all, NASA is at the heart of the conspiracy. |
| 20:09.46 | fiphi | Kraps: Wtf are you reading? :P |
| 20:09.47 | Kraps | AH HAH |
| 20:09.53 | Kraps | I KNOW IT |
| 20:09.54 | Jamash | flat earth nutso website |
| 20:10.08 | fiphi | Jamash: Linkitlinkit. |
| 20:10.16 | Kraps | http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=11211.0 |
| 20:10.26 | Kraps | thats the FAQ |
| 20:10.31 | Jamash | flat earth conspiracies are great |
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| 20:10.45 | Jamash | they're so dumb anyone can tell why they're wrong |
| 20:11.18 | olafski | are you saying magic doesn't exist? ;) |
| 20:11.36 | olafski | a lot of yellow indeed.. |
| 20:11.51 | Kraps | they have some math |
| 20:12.13 | Kraps | which im bad at so i cant tell what it is |
| 20:12.13 | Jamash | yellow? |
| 20:12.22 | Jamash | it's mathemagic! |
| 20:12.22 | olafski | spain vs holland :P |
| 20:12.38 | nevcairiel | isnt that over soon? |
| 20:12.44 | olafski | it's 0-0 |
| 20:12.47 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 20:12.49 | Jamash | 0-0-0-0 |
| 20:12.49 | olafski | so it might take a while |
| 20:12.49 | nevcairiel | clearly |
| 20:12.58 | nevcairiel | both are kinda defensive teams |
| 20:12.58 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here olafski |
| 20:12.59 | olafski | 5 minutes left |
| 20:13.03 | Fisker | so take off all my clothes |
| 20:13.03 | A-KO | hmm |
| 20:13.07 | nevcairiel | spain has awesome ball handling, but they cant score |
| 20:13.08 | A-KO | WPL might be physically phased |
| 20:13.10 | olafski | defensive but aggressive :P |
| 20:13.11 | Jamash | didn't they both promise to play offensively? |
| 20:13.11 | A-KO | ought to be interesting |
| 20:13.20 | Jamash | nevcairiel: sounds like fisker |
| 20:13.23 | olafski | holland has like 6 yellow now? |
| 20:13.51 | Cide- | More than 9 thousand if you ask me |
| 20:14.02 | mikma | jamash: badachi! |
| 20:14.09 | Jamash | wat? |
| 20:14.31 | olafski | bad achievement? |
| 20:14.41 | Kraps | Members of Space Teams -- They see exactly what we see as well, but they're sitting on the ground looking at it "Live." That doesn't mean that they know that the people are actually in space, but they can make a really convincing argument towards it, perhaps. |
| 20:14.59 | Cide- | He fell 1 yard too far |
| 20:15.00 | mikma | jamash: http://mikma.eu/nokia/drum.mp3 |
| 20:15.06 | Jamash | yes the earth appears round because the camera has a special lens no doubt |
| 20:15.31 | Cide- | It is in reality flat like a pancake |
| 20:15.40 | Jamash | http://instantrimshot.com/ |
| 20:16.43 | Cide- | Offside ftl |
| 20:16.57 | olafski | haha I don't even know the rules for that :P |
| 20:17.14 | Kraps | here are some maps http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r36/Persistenxe/Flat_earth-1.png http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/flying_leaf/test1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v499/dogplatter/flatmap.jpg http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r36/Persistenxe/1zyzfxf.png |
| 20:17.40 | Cide- | Can't pass to someone who is behind the player furthest back in the opposing team |
| 20:17.50 | olafski | including the goalie? |
| 20:17.57 | Cide- | No |
| 20:17.59 | Dagmar | Kraps: Here are some boots http://www.starletsandharlets.com/men_s_goth_platform_punk_shoes_demonia_boot_p/boxer-200.htm |
| 20:18.00 | olafski | okay |
| 20:18.21 | Kraps | ugh |
| 20:18.23 | Dagmar | I just wish they cost a wee bit less than that |
| 20:20.50 | olafski | poor robben |
| 20:20.52 | olafski | he looks tired :P |
| 20:21.03 | Cide- | He's a nub |
| 20:21.07 | Cide- | Cool |
| 20:21.21 | olafski | I like him |
| 20:21.28 | Cide- | Swype has the word nub in its dictionary |
| 20:21.28 | olafski | made a nice goal against brazil (I think?) |
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| 20:21.38 | Cide- | How convenient |
| 20:21.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide-: swype is amazing |
| 20:21.46 | Cide- | Yes |
| 20:21.58 | Cide- | I'm using it right now |
| 20:22.00 | nevcairiel | Not if you type in two languages on a regular basis |
| 20:22.12 | Cide- | Sure it is |
| 20:22.27 | nevcairiel | also, i have a hardware keyboard |
| 20:22.31 | Cide- | As long as it supports both |
| 20:22.56 | Cide- | Doesn't support swedish yet sadly |
| 20:22.58 | olafski | which OS do new nokia phones use? |
| 20:23.10 | olafski | I'd like a win mobile phone |
| 20:23.14 | nevcairiel | some still use symbian, and some use meego or what its called |
| 20:23.21 | olafski | oh :( |
| 20:23.27 | Cide- | Android/symbian I guess |
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| 20:23.36 | nevcairiel | nokia will never use android |
| 20:23.41 | nevcairiel | they use their own shit |
| 20:23.47 | olafski | bastards |
| 20:23.48 | Cide- | they should |
| 20:23.55 | olafski | I think my employer hands out nokia phones |
| 20:23.59 | Dagmar | They spent too much money buying TrollTech to back away from Qt |
| 20:24.04 | cbreak | mine handed out iPads |
| 20:24.05 | nevcairiel | They just launched this new OS with Intel on board |
| 20:24.08 | Cide- | Why get a windows phone? |
| 20:24.22 | Dagmar | Cide: Because you don't really use your phone much |
| 20:24.25 | Cide- | Sinking ships ftl |
| 20:24.28 | cbreak | Cide-: wanna get a kin? :) |
| 20:24.30 | Dagmar | ...and would like to have ample excuses for ignoring calls. |
| 20:24.39 | nevcairiel | Kins are really cheap now |
| 20:24.41 | Cide- | I have a desire |
| 20:24.52 | olafski | windows mobile so I can make my own apps :P |
| 20:24.53 | cbreak | sounds like something Marthin Luther King said |
| 20:24.57 | Cide- | Not changing any time soon |
| 20:24.59 | olafski | but I doubt I would anyway so that doesn't matter |
| 20:25.18 | nevcairiel | I'll have to keep my phone at least one more year |
| 20:25.19 | cbreak | you can make your own apps on android, iPhone OS and some symbian too |
| 20:25.19 | Cide- | Make your own apps for android |
| 20:25.26 | olafski | but I don't want to do java :( |
| 20:25.33 | Dagmar | nevcariel: Yes, and I am forced to wonder... What kind of morons are going to spend money on Windows Phone 7 when Microsoft has had a "release and abandon" policy for Wm 6.0, WM 6.1, WM 6.5, and now Kin |
| 20:25.41 | Cide- | It's worth it for the phone |
| 20:25.43 | cbreak | objective-c? :) crappy-pseudo-c++? |
| 20:25.44 | amro | http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal01/2010/7/9/11/enhanced-buzz-32285-1278689808-4.jpg |
| 20:26.10 | olafski | cbreak: can't you use C# or silverlight or something for winmobile? |
| 20:26.19 | cbreak | don't know |
| 20:26.26 | cbreak | .Net C# probably |
| 20:26.30 | nevcairiel | winmobile 7.0 is only silverlight shit, i believe |
| 20:26.48 | Slackwise | Is PLAYER_ENTER/LEAVE_COMBAT or PLAYER_ENABLE/DISABLE_REGEN appropriate for InCombatLockdown() checks? |
| 20:26.56 | cbreak | then you're better off with iPhone os if you want low level code, or android if you want abstracted Java |
| 20:26.56 | Fisker | i silverlight shit u |
| 20:27.03 | nevcairiel | Slackwise: enable/disable regen are |
| 20:27.04 | Cide- | Get android over windows, jesus |
| 20:27.09 | cbreak | Slackwise: it was back in the old days |
| 20:27.14 | Dagmar | Doesn't even matter since it'll be abandoned within 9 months of release and you aren't likely to ever see any updates for it |
| 20:27.15 | cbreak | I doubt it changed |
| 20:27.27 | olafski | meh I know nothing about phones.. I have a 5 year old nokia now and it still works fine |
| 20:27.40 | Slackwise | nevcairiel: So REGEN will surely fire when in/out of combat lockdown? |
| 20:27.42 | cbreak | I have an 8 year old motorola |
| 20:27.45 | nevcairiel | Slackwise: yes |
| 20:27.49 | cbreak | and it was broken for the last five months :) |
| 20:27.51 | Slackwise | nevcairiel: Thanks. :D |
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| 20:27.56 | cbreak | maybe more |
| 20:28.04 | olafski | :P |
| 20:28.22 | nevcairiel | I usually never kept a phone more then 4 years |
| 20:28.28 | olafski | I like my current phone.. I know how it works and it can make calls and send text messaes |
| 20:28.32 | olafski | messages |
| 20:28.40 | olafski | if my employer gives me another phone I'll probably use that though |
| 20:28.45 | cbreak | too mcuh functionality |
| 20:28.51 | Cide- | Then why get a windows phone |
| 20:29.03 | olafski | I like to have the option ;) |
| 20:29.04 | Dagmar | Self-hate. |
| 20:29.27 | olafski | I know it's blasphemy to say this on freenode but I actually like windows and other microsoft products |
| 20:29.30 | olafski | including C# =) |
| 20:29.41 | Cide- | I love windows |
| 20:29.49 | cbreak | barbarians |
| 20:29.53 | Cide- | Just not the phones |
| 20:29.59 | nevcairiel | C# is nice, but i wouldnt get a broken phone just to be able to code in it . |
| 20:30.06 | olafski | and I have no clue about phones so I just figured if I want to make an app for a phone I'd prefer to do it in a language I know |
| 20:30.09 | olafski | I also know Java though |
| 20:30.14 | Cide- | And letting in light is always nice |
| 20:30.38 | olafski | whew |
| 20:30.39 | cbreak | there are flashlight apps for like every platform under the sun... |
| 20:30.52 | cbreak | I've even seen "flashlight backgrounds" |
| 20:31.02 | olafski | was that a pun? "under the sun" :) |
| 20:31.28 | cbreak | oh, yes! yes it was! |
| 20:31.42 | Cide- | Psh |
| 20:31.43 | olafski | :) |
| 20:31.48 | olafski | sun is called oracle nowadays I think? |
| 20:31.55 | cbreak | yeah :( |
| 20:32.16 | cbreak | the future for Java is not that sunny anymore. And I wonder what happens with MySql |
| 20:32.16 | Dagmar | irony != pun |
| 20:32.56 | Cide- | Android will be around though |
| 20:33.38 | Cide- | But android development can be done in other languages than java |
| 20:33.55 | olafski | I imagine you can code for a windows phone in VB.NET too ;) |
| 20:34.39 | nevcairiel | who would want to code anything in vb.net? |
| 20:34.40 | cbreak | I wonder if Microsoft tries to get people away from non .net platforms on windows too |
| 20:34.57 | olafski | just saying it's an option |
| 20:35.00 | olafski | ironruby then nevcairiel ;) |
| 20:35.13 | nevcairiel | ironpython, if anything |
| 20:35.17 | olafski | I've been introduced to C# last monday ;) |
| 20:35.18 | Cide- | Well they're killing off Qt |
| 20:35.38 | cbreak | NOOOO! |
| 20:35.42 | cbreak | who? EVIL! |
| 20:35.51 | Cide- | Trolled |
| 20:35.51 | Dagmar | You code in vb.net because you want your device to feel like it's really working hard when it counts from one to one thousand on the screen. |
| 20:36.06 | olafski | :) |
| 20:36.09 | cbreak | Dagmar: hand-warmer apps? |
| 20:36.23 | Jamash | troll'dtech? |
| 20:36.29 | A-KO | Dagmar: I did that with a vbs script once ot make it look like I was waiting on my script to process at work--to make it appear like I was doing something |
| 20:36.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (~dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 20:36.48 | olafski | just put in some sleeps :( |
| 20:36.58 | Fisker | hey olafski |
| 20:37.00 | A-KO | olafski: yeah but that doesn't make the HD run |
| 20:37.00 | Fisker | beta me |
| 20:37.01 | A-KO | :P |
| 20:37.03 | airtonix | cbreak, barriers for creating apps on the iphone are far greater than any of the other phones i've seen. |
| 20:37.11 | olafski | oh ;p |
| 20:37.13 | Kraps | Even if you don't believe in gravity, I'll put the same spotlight on you. How do things fall? |
| 20:37.15 | Kraps | Things don't fall, Earth accelerates up to them. |
| 20:37.15 | Cide- | Vb.net is a thin wrapper around c++ with sleep (200) after every statement |
| 20:37.22 | airtonix | ^ |
| 20:37.26 | cbreak | airtonix: 99$ greater? |
| 20:37.29 | Dagmar | hehehe |
| 20:37.35 | airtonix | cbreak, not just that |
| 20:37.50 | Dagmar | cbreak: $4,000 greater, last I checked |
| 20:37.57 | cbreak | hmm? why? |
| 20:37.57 | Jamash | first you need a mac (no iphone skd for linux) and an iphone |
| 20:38.05 | Jamash | s/skd/sdk/ |
| 20:38.13 | cbreak | oh, you need a windows PC for windows 7 development too |
| 20:38.16 | Jamash | s/linux/linux or windows/ |
| 20:38.20 | airtonix | cbreak, to make apps on an android phone costs me 0$ and only takes about 5 presses to get python, lua, and bash on it |
| 20:38.21 | cbreak | because there's no working .net for any other platform |
| 20:38.34 | cbreak | and you need an android phone for android development |
| 20:38.36 | Dagmar | What? |
| 20:38.40 | Dagmar | .net works under Linux |
| 20:38.43 | nevcairiel | cbreak: you don't |
| 20:38.47 | nevcairiel | there is a capable emulator |
| 20:38.50 | cbreak | so? |
| 20:38.52 | Jamash | yes, but nobody cares about windows phone 7 os special edition with sparkles extreme for teens |
| 20:38.54 | cbreak | there's a free iPhone emulator too |
| 20:39.02 | Dagmar | Jamash++ |
| 20:39.04 | cbreak | but an iPhone was still listed above |
| 20:39.09 | cbreak | so emulator doesn't seem to count |
| 20:39.10 | Jamash | an android emulator comes with the kit |
| 20:39.19 | Cide- | Both iphone and android have emulators |
| 20:39.23 | airtonix | cbreak, does that emulator work on linux? |
| 20:39.23 | cbreak | iPhone emulator is with the free xcode |
| 20:39.31 | airtonix | lol |
| 20:39.34 | airtonix | LOOOOLLLLL |
| 20:39.35 | cbreak | it works on the same platform xcode works on, OS X |
| 20:39.36 | airtonix | no tanks |
| 20:39.37 | Jamash | "free" xcode |
| 20:39.48 | airtonix | xcode is not free |
| 20:39.49 | A-KO | all I gotta say is, as a user, I'm loving my iphone 4 |
| 20:39.50 | A-KO | done |
| 20:39.51 | cbreak | you can download it |
| 20:39.52 | A-KO | next topic :P |
| 20:40.02 | airtonix | you suck monkey balls A-KO |
| 20:40.06 | Jamash | free like free beer with a cover charge |
| 20:40.10 | nevcairiel | you apparently don't need a cell connection then :p |
| 20:40.12 | cbreak | airtonix: even you could download it within 5 minutes |
| 20:40.12 | Cide- | ^ |
| 20:40.16 | A-KO | nevcairiel: works great here |
| 20:40.20 | A-KO | is left-handed |
| 20:40.20 | airtonix | cbreak, i dont have a mac |
| 20:40.27 | cbreak | yes, not required for downloading |
| 20:40.28 | Cide- | So does your mom |
| 20:40.30 | cbreak | just for running |
| 20:40.40 | nevcairiel | I mostly laugh at apple for how they are handling it |
| 20:40.56 | airtonix | cbreak, iphone cant run my language of choice without breaking its warranty |
| 20:41.00 | Fisker | i'm melting away |
| 20:41.00 | A-KO | meh, it won't matter, AT&T will have the best network within a couple of years anway |
| 20:41.03 | A-KO | as they roll out LTE |
| 20:41.04 | Jamash | I'm left handed |
| 20:41.15 | A-KO | everyone else will be behind |
| 20:41.22 | nevcairiel | US is not the center of the world, also, iPhone 4 doesnt do LTE, do they :p |
| 20:41.24 | cbreak | airtonix: your iPhone could. But you can't distribute apps with it |
| 20:41.34 | airtonix | cbreak, i dont have an iphone |
| 20:41.34 | A-KO | nevcairiel: not currently, but I suspect 2 years from now the iphone will be LTE |
| 20:41.44 | Jamash | what's LTE? |
| 20:41.50 | nevcairiel | 4G |
| 20:41.51 | cbreak | airtonix: be glad about it :) |
| 20:41.58 | *** join/#wowuidev ccox (~ccox@c-76-21-106-87.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:41.58 | *** join/#wowuidev ccox (~ccox@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/CCox) |
| 20:42.20 | olafski | another 15 minutes.. how exciting ;) |
| 20:42.26 | Jamash | doesn't matter if 4G is better than 3G if AT&T's backbone continues to suck |
| 20:42.39 | cbreak | AT&T has 0 presence here. |
| 20:42.43 | Jamash | "too many iphones in new york lol" |
| 20:42.49 | cbreak | but there are 0 other carriers that offer iPhones |
| 20:42.54 | cbreak | 3 |
| 20:42.58 | A-KO | Sprint's 4G is re-branded Wimax |
| 20:43.00 | A-KO | not bad, for sure |
| 20:43.03 | A-KO | but not LTE |
| 20:43.05 | A-KO | :P |
| 20:43.05 | cbreak | well, 2 until end of the month, then a third |
| 20:43.35 | nevcairiel | Some countries don't have one exclusive apple partner, must be kinda better there |
| 20:43.37 | A-KO | I do suspect AT&T will have the better network in a couple of year's time, overall. |
| 20:43.42 | Shirik | alright mysql gurus |
| 20:43.42 | nevcairiel | I hate that provider lock-in |
| 20:43.44 | Shirik | new one for you |
| 20:43.59 | cbreak | nevcairiel: I read my country has the highest mobile rates in europe |
| 20:44.03 | Jamash | provider lock-in should be illegal |
| 20:44.07 | cbreak | despite competition |
| 20:44.08 | A-KO | they are just in a pinch right now because they don't want to spend $$$$$ to upgrade an aging network when they already have plans to do so |
| 20:44.10 | Fisker | i have to pee Shirik |
| 20:44.11 | Shirik | imagine we have a table like this http://wowi.pastey.net/138491 |
| 20:44.19 | Shirik | I want a count, per user, of each action |
| 20:44.30 | Shirik | any bright ideas on how to do this? |
| 20:44.38 | nevcairiel | group by user, select count? |
| 20:44.45 | A-KO | sonds about right |
| 20:44.47 | A-KO | sounds* |
| 20:44.48 | Shirik | but the actions might be different |
| 20:44.49 | Jamash | DROP TABLE logging |
| 20:45.00 | nevcairiel | group by user and action, select count? |
| 20:45.08 | Shirik | is it really that simple? |
| 20:45.21 | nevcairiel | that basically gives you a map of (user, action) -> count |
| 20:45.35 | cbreak | you're supposed to use joins! |
| 20:46.03 | olafski | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.31 | airtonix | herrings! |
| 20:46.35 | Shirik | like this? |
| 20:46.36 | Shirik | SELECT user_id, log_type, log_action, COUNT(*) FROM logging JOIN user_ids ON user_id = log_user WHERE user_name = "Shirik" GROUP BY user_id, log_type, log_action; |
| 20:46.41 | airtonix | ~lart shirik |
| 20:46.41 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses shirik down |
| 20:47.04 | olafski | why group by user if you're specifying a username? |
| 20:47.12 | Shirik | I won't be soon |
| 20:47.15 | olafski | oh ok |
| 20:47.28 | nevcairiel | since you're still asking, it didnt work? =P |
| 20:47.29 | Shirik | running on millions of users is slightly more expensive :) |
| 20:47.33 | Shirik | I want to get it right the first time |
| 20:47.37 | Shirik | nevcairiel: It seems to have worked |
| 20:47.43 | Shirik | but maybe I misse dsomething |
| 20:47.50 | olafski | try with 5 users instead |
| 20:47.53 | nevcairiel | thats how i understand grouping in mysql |
| 20:47.55 | olafski | see if that works too :) |
| 20:48.05 | nevcairiel | group on multiple, and it does what you want |
| 20:48.25 | olafski | oh oh stupid heitinga |
| 20:49.07 | Cide- | Why do you group by action? |
| 20:49.29 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:49.42 | olafski | that seems like the right thing to do? |
| 20:49.43 | Cide- | Or did you want the count per action |
| 20:49.45 | olafski | yes |
| 20:49.52 | Shirik | yes |
| 20:50.04 | Cide- | Ah, fail me then |
| 20:50.13 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:51.11 | A-KO | LOL |
| 20:51.14 | A-KO | prepare for flood |
| 20:51.22 | olafski | hm? |
| 20:51.28 | A-KO | [16:48] <+A-KO> Auberdine is destroyed and submerged |
| 20:51.28 | A-KO | [16:48] <zid_> it should be blown up, put back together, burned, scattered, nuked, and then tossed into the heart of an exploding star |
| 20:51.28 | A-KO | [16:48] <zid_> and then it should give me 1000g for the hassle of having known it even existed |
| 20:51.28 | A-KO | [16:48] <zid_> and then given me 6 blowjobs just for zoning in |
| 20:51.28 | A-KO | [16:48] <+A-KO> lol |
| 20:51.29 | A-KO | [16:49] <zid_> They should use this for interrogating people as a form of torture |
| 20:51.29 | A-KO | [16:49] <zid_> people would be begging to be waterboarded |
| 20:51.34 | A-KO | RE: Darkshore leveling |
| 20:51.51 | bediko | how can i call a function of one of my addon per /script in wow? |
| 20:51.55 | olafski | auberdine is not a very nice town |
| 20:52.01 | olafski | /script functionname() |
| 20:52.37 | bediko | i have the problem i dont know how to name the functionname the right way |
| 20:52.46 | bediko | it always say attempt to call a nil value |
| 20:52.48 | olafski | eh |
| 20:52.52 | airtonix | name it after me |
| 20:52.52 | olafski | then it can't find the function |
| 20:52.55 | olafski | is it local perhaps? |
| 20:52.58 | airtonix | then send dontations |
| 20:53.00 | olafski | (not sure if that matters.. been a while) |
| 20:53.04 | Cide- | Lua.org/pil |
| 20:53.13 | olafski | yes go there :) |
| 20:53.26 | Fisker | and then you should give me the damn bet A-KO |
| 20:53.27 | Fisker | ok? |
| 20:53.28 | airtonix | blames fisker |
| 20:53.31 | Fisker | and by that i mean beta |
| 20:55.37 | olafski | aww |
| 20:55.46 | kd3 | g'bye netherlands |
| 20:56.01 | olafski | wasn't that eh.. what's it called |
| 20:56.13 | olafski | played to a player behind enemy lines? |
| 20:56.34 | kd3 | offisdes |
| 20:56.38 | nevcairiel | offside is the name, and its the dumbest rule in the game |
| 20:56.40 | olafski | yeah that |
| 20:56.46 | kd3 | and, no. he wasn't offside |
| 20:56.59 | Cide- | No |
| 20:57.05 | olafski | but the guy who touched the ball before that was |
| 20:57.14 | olafski | oh well |
| 20:57.17 | olafski | guess it's over :) |
| 20:57.29 | Cide- | It's a critical rule though |
| 20:57.31 | olafski | unless our hero wesley fixes it |
| 20:57.59 | nevcairiel | If you manage to place a player there, and manage to get a ball to him, you should be able to play it |
| 20:58.06 | olafski | our poor prince is sitting next to the spanish queen? haha |
| 20:58.28 | olafski | I imagine if that rule didn't exist it would make for very defensive gameplay? |
| 20:59.16 | Cide- | Very many long balls behind the defense |
| 20:59.31 | olafski | yeah.. and in turn defense would have to be more dense I'd say |
| 20:59.33 | Shirik | Fisker is offsides |
| 20:59.42 | olafski | but I don't really think this stuff through |
| 20:59.43 | nevcairiel | maybe modify the rule to only not allow those long balls |
| 20:59.47 | nevcairiel | sometimes its just stupid |
| 21:00.38 | Cide- | Makes for really boring and exploitable play |
| 21:00.49 | olafski | wow I'm actually a little excited watching this :P |
| 21:01.41 | Shirik | y did u do dat!! i fully read it in a magazine!!! i waz tryin 2 find da pictre and wat did u do!!!!!!:( |
| 21:01.52 | olafski | I see |
| 21:01.54 | A-KO | wow |
| 21:01.57 | A-KO | Spain is 1-0? |
| 21:01.58 | Shirik | this guy is complaining that I deleted an article which had literally 0 bytes of content |
| 21:02.08 | Shirik | he blanked it |
| 21:02.11 | olafski | yes akhe |
| 21:02.13 | olafski | ehh a-ko |
| 21:02.18 | A-KO | when did that happen? |
| 21:02.24 | olafski | few minutes ago |
| 21:02.26 | A-KO | ahh |
| 21:02.38 | Cide- | Spain wins |
| 21:02.41 | olafski | bah |
| 21:02.46 | olafski | oh well |
| 21:02.47 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:02.50 | A-KO | the octopus was right |
| 21:02.52 | olafski | time to clean up the mess here |
| 21:03.01 | olafski | oh yeah I never got what that octopus stuff was about |
| 21:03.03 | olafski | better google some |
| 21:03.42 | A-KO | olafski: some octopus that "predicted" the world cup games |
| 21:03.46 | A-KO | 100% |
| 21:03.47 | amro | spain wins |
| 21:03.50 | amro | bleh |
| 21:03.52 | amro | horrible refs |
| 21:04.20 | Cide- | No bad decisions that I saw |
| 21:04.26 | amro | let's count |
| 21:04.34 | Cide- | Maybe too few red cards for holland |
| 21:04.35 | amro | puyol not getting redcarded for downing robben from behind |
| 21:04.45 | Cide- | Dude |
| 21:04.46 | amro | and then iniesta not getting redcarded for raging |
| 21:04.48 | olafski | dutch wikipedia says 1:0 for holland :P |
| 21:05.01 | amro | and then that corner kick that was ruled as a goal kick |
| 21:05.13 | amro | and then that shove on elia that wasn't signaled |
| 21:05.16 | amro | the list goes on |
| 21:05.18 | Cide- | Did you even see the foot-on-chest from holland? |
| 21:05.18 | olafski | are you dutch amro? |
| 21:05.21 | amro | no |
| 21:05.26 | olafski | oh :) |
| 21:05.27 | amro | yes I saw Cide- |
| 21:05.55 | amro | I'm talking about fouls that weren't signalled at all |
| 21:05.59 | amro | not the ref being lenient |
| 21:06.04 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spain_national_football_team&diff=372962457&oldid=372962419 |
| 21:06.26 | amro | really though, the tackle from behind on robben was the biggest thing |
| 21:06.27 | Cide- | Spain deserved some lenient decisions after that imo |
| 21:06.33 | amro | that's not how it works |
| 21:06.46 | Cide- | It ia |
| 21:06.48 | Cide- | Is |
| 21:06.52 | amro | if it was, then heitinga should not have gotten that second card |
| 21:07.01 | olafski | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.01 | amro | he barely committed the foul, as opposed to puyol's |
| 21:07.03 | Cide- | Decisions are accumulative |
| 21:07.13 | amro | only on one side, Cide- |
| 21:07.20 | amro | you don't consider what the other team did |
| 21:07.36 | Cide- | Didn't see then |
| 21:07.47 | Cide- | Doesn't matter much |
| 21:07.54 | amro | I don't care much either way |
| 21:07.59 | amro | I'm just disappointed that it was a horrible game |
| 21:08.06 | olafski | it looked boring |
| 21:08.10 | olafski | even for a soccer match |
| 21:08.16 | olafski | I liked the holland - brazil game better |
| 21:08.18 | amro | it was boring |
| 21:08.42 | amro | this cup was full of upsets and weirdness |
| 21:08.53 | amro | spain cruising to the top with 1 goal difference each time |
| 21:09.00 | olafski | oh well, time to log off, got some cleaning to do :) |
| 21:09.02 | olafski | nn |
| 21:09.03 | amro | then you've got germany on a blitzkrieg losing |
| 21:10.19 | cogwheel | NSFW (language): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8 |
| 21:15.04 | airtonix | so is sharepoint the weapons microsofts uses when it muscles up high profile websites ? |
| 21:15.28 | airtonix | wtf is sharepoint ? |
| 21:18.38 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 21:18.54 | cogwheel | !w sharepoint |
| 21:19.24 | amro | back to EVO |
| 21:20.28 | Cide- | Back to sc2 |
| 21:20.42 | Cide- | Are you up for it shirik |
| 21:21.26 | Dashkal | meh, I wants me a beta key :S |
| 21:22.01 | Cide- | Should've pre ordered |
| 21:22.22 | Dagmar | Pre-ordering doens't necessarily get you a beta key |
| 21:22.29 | Dagmar | Hell, it doesn't necessarily get you a copy of the game |
| 21:22.32 | Cide- | It did |
| 21:22.41 | Dashkal | eh, not sc2. I suck at multiplayer so badly I'm probably not even going to fire it up. RTS games aren't my thing. Wants single player |
| 21:23.26 | Cide- | The single player is going to be awesome also |
| 21:23.27 | Dashkal | Past fail, past epic fail. My multiplayer games had me facing tier 3 while I was still just building tier 2 buildings |
| 21:23.57 | Jamash | I am terribad at starcraft multi |
| 21:23.58 | Dashkal | (in sc1, that is) |
| 21:24.13 | amro | Cide-: it takes forever to get the key |
| 21:24.41 | Cide- | Got mine in 5 minutes from pre ordering |
| 21:24.46 | amro | from where? |
| 21:24.56 | Cide- | Swedish store |
| 21:27.12 | Kraps | Q. Isn't the burden of proof on you to prove it? |
| 21:27.15 | Kraps | A. No. You're the one claiming that NASA can send men to the moon, robots to mars, and space ships into the solar system. We're not claiming those things. |
| 21:27.35 | Cide- | Fail |
| 21:28.21 | Dashkal | Why argue with those types. Let the willfully ignorant stay ignorant. If anything, foster their distrust so they don't even vote. |
| 21:29.04 | Kraps | i found a wiki, it looks very srs bizniz |
| 21:29.13 | Cide- | Or kill them.Support natural selection |
| 21:29.17 | Jamash | they're real life trolls |
| 21:29.28 | Dashkal | Killing them would be unnatural selection |
| 21:29.42 | Dashkal | Standing by while a lion mauls them OTOH |
| 21:29.54 | Kraps | What's the simplest explanation; that NASA has successfully designed and invented never before seen rocket technologies from scratch which can accelerate 100 tons of matter straight up at 7 miles per second, and that NASA can do the impossible on a daily basis, explore the cosmos, and constantly wow the nation by landing a man on the moon and sending robots to mars; or is the simplest... |
| 21:29.55 | Kraps | ...explanation that they really can't do all of that stuff? |
| 21:30.07 | Kraps | occams razor ftw |
| 21:30.18 | Cide- | That's a misunderstanding of the concept I think |
| 21:30.26 | Kraps | http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Occams+Razor |
| 21:30.35 | Kraps | theres a few of them |
| 21:30.38 | Dashkal | Choosing not to understand != simpliest explanation |
| 21:30.47 | Shirik | yay pending changes |
| 21:31.26 | Jamash | I'm a moon landing disbeliever disbeliever. |
| 21:33.10 | Kraps | http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php |
| 21:33.19 | Kraps | they have math |
| 21:33.36 | Jamash | I have math |
| 21:34.21 | Jamash | flat earth = dumn |
| 21:36.38 | amro | TFS is long term trolling |
| 21:36.43 | amro | TFES* |
| 21:37.06 | amro | and NASA didn't develop all that technology |
| 21:37.09 | amro | mostly they just foot the bill |
| 21:38.41 | amro | 13337 viewers on the stream |
| 21:38.57 | Kraps | amro: part of the CONSPIRACY is that the GAO reported for several years that NASA failed to account for a lot of money |
| 21:39.54 | Kraps | which really just means "ohai this is the gvmnt, we fail a budgeting" |
| 21:40.00 | Kraps | at* |
| 21:40.41 | amro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_Laser_Ranging_experiment |
| 21:40.46 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 21:40.52 | Shirik | want an epic example of why pending changes is a good thing? |
| 21:40.54 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spain_national_football_team&action=history |
| 21:41.43 | airtonix | have you personally met any of the people whl "so called landed on the moon" ? |
| 21:42.29 | Dagmar | You want a bigger hoax? |
| 21:42.40 | airtonix | your face |
| 21:42.41 | Dagmar | http://cybergoggles.org/ |
| 21:42.53 | Kraps | Shirik what edit specifically? |
| 21:43.02 | Dagmar | For the record, a few embedded LEDs to make the things light up is about as fancy as they get. |
| 21:43.03 | Shirik | all of them! |
| 21:43.15 | Shirik | Instead of protecting the article (which was initially done) we're getting tons of good edits from anonymous editors |
| 21:43.18 | Dagmar | I've *no* idea what the person who put that site together was smoking. |
| 21:43.23 | Kraps | yeah i saw that |
| 21:43.46 | Thunder_Child | âItâs kinda the same idea as facebook, with functionality more like Twitter, but with the innovation of Microsoft.â this person needs to die |
| 21:43.49 | Dagmar | Of course, if I happen to get a pair of goggles with an embedded screen and camera for thirty bucks, rest assured I'll tell freaking everyone |
| 21:44.46 | airtonix | are you calling me a liar ? |
| 21:45.24 | Fisker | bitches Thunder_Child |
| 21:45.48 | Thunder_Child | want to try that in english Fisker? |
| 21:46.29 | airtonix | Dagmar, OMG it finds my lost tings |
| 21:47.02 | Kraps | http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-hoaxes-of-all-time.php |
| 21:47.15 | Dagmar | airtonix: Yeah, I'm just astounded that's up |
| 21:47.31 | airtonix | the descriptions are wrong |
| 21:47.39 | airtonix | Radioactive Negative |
| 21:47.40 | airtonix | This pair has vivid blue rubber tube detail and black & blue inlays with radioactive / atomic logo print. |
| 21:47.56 | airtonix | i see no blue ting with radioactive symbol |
| 21:48.22 | Dagmar | You're looking at the wrong site then |
| 21:48.46 | *** join/#wowuidev vithos (vith@unaffiliated/vithos) |
| 21:48.55 | airtonix | it's fiskers fault |
| 21:49.13 | Dagmar | http://cryoflesh.com/shop/accessories-goggles-c-3_29.html <-- more like reality |
| 21:49.36 | Kraps | http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?topic=28393.msg678739#msg678739 |
| 21:49.54 | Kraps | airtonix: wtf is a ting? |
| 21:50.18 | airtonix | a jamacian thing |
| 21:50.30 | Dagmar | it be a tind dey say mon |
| 21:50.35 | Dagmar | s/tind/ting/; |
| 21:50.46 | Fisker | try what Thunder_Child ? |
| 21:50.47 | airtonix | ~purlbash |
| 21:50.50 | Fisker | also airtonix |
| 21:50.52 | Fisker | beta me |
| 21:51.00 | airtonix | Fisker, i would except |
| 21:51.05 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: saying what ever it is you said but in english this time |
| 21:51.14 | Fisker | it was english |
| 21:52.44 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 21:52.48 | Fisker | is there a person you hate? |
| 21:53.41 | airtonix | i dont hate people |
| 21:53.47 | Fisker | sure? |
| 21:53.50 | airtonix | i pretend they don't exist |
| 21:54.07 | Fisker | but you could hut them by giving me a beta |
| 21:54.11 | Fisker | and the rubbing it in their face |
| 21:54.35 | Fisker | then |
| 21:55.01 | Fisker | until then good nights |
| 21:55.37 | airtonix | yep |
| 21:56.50 | Cide- | Is it time for some 4v4s? |
| 21:57.38 | Thunder_Child | what we should do is find 8 people in channel that play then make random teams. good practice |
| 21:58.08 | Cide- | That would be fun |
| 21:58.12 | amro | sarkozy is a genius |
| 21:58.20 | amro | he scheduled his speech at the same time as the world cup finals |
| 21:58.23 | Cide- | Or just 4 or 6 |
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| 22:00.02 | Cide- | So...who's up for that? |
| 22:00.28 | Cide- | Tem? Shirik? Thunder Child? |
| 22:00.56 | Cide- | Sbo? |
| 22:02.25 | Cide- | Echo...echo..echo. |
| 22:03.41 | Kraps | whiskey tango foxtrot |
| 22:03.55 | Cide- | ^ |
| 22:04.36 | Kraps | the FE thing makes my brian hurt |
| 22:04.49 | Kraps | yes, i ssaid brian |
| 22:04.55 | Cide- | Fast expand? |
| 22:06.03 | Kraps | http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/36714_The_Unexpurgated_Autobiography_of_Mark_Twain |
| 22:07.40 | Kraps | Cide-: flat earth |
| 22:07.51 | Kraps | what were we talking about? |
| 22:08.20 | Cide- | sc2 |
| 22:08.27 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 22:08.30 | Fisker | bitches to you too |
| 22:11.31 | Cide- | You guys are SC2 haters |
| 22:12.06 | Cide- | We need more people like me |
| 22:13.32 | amro | gief key |
| 22:14.01 | Kraps | idk, i'm not that good at rts |
| 22:14.41 | Cide- | Nubs |
| 22:14.57 | Cide- | Oh nice, it has nubs also |
| 22:15.04 | Kraps | stuff like age of empires was good |
| 22:15.18 | Kraps | company of heroes kills me though |
| 22:15.32 | Cide- | Aoe was great |
| 22:16.20 | Kraps | i'm a turtle type player |
| 22:16.38 | Kraps | limited resources kills me |
| 22:17.47 | Cide- | That makes you bad |
| 22:17.49 | Cide- | Brb |
| 22:18.37 | Kraps | :( |
| 22:19.41 | Kraps | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/07/500x_ncaarecruiting_01.jpg |
| 22:19.48 | Kraps | see what you can see |
| 22:20.59 | Corrodias | looks like S is superior in learnin' to T. |
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| 22:21.44 | Cide | hi |
| 22:22.41 | Corrodias | hi baby, you got my beer? |
| 22:24.08 | Cide | I'm not your baby |
| 22:24.20 | Cide | shirik tem ScytheBlade1 Esamynn|Away |
| 22:24.22 | Cide | time for sc2 |
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| 22:29.19 | Kraps | oh look cide, its the STFU SPEC-OPS team, coming to take you awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay |
| 22:29.29 | Cide | cool |
| 22:29.33 | Cide | I won't give up without a fight |
| 22:31.35 | amro | wtb rebalanced aoe2 |
| 22:32.07 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/her-heads-up-in-the-sky-with-diamonds/6095 |
| 22:33.05 | Antiarc | Kraps: Ahaha |
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| 22:40.40 | Industrial | 23:36 -!- mode/#darkwired [+b *!*@*.es] by jnwhiteh |
| 22:40.51 | Industrial | s/darkwired/wowuidev |
| 22:40.54 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 22:40.57 | jnwhiteh | when did that happen? |
| 22:41.06 | Industrial | never :P copied from another channel |
| 22:41.12 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 22:41.16 | Industrial | ben em! |
| 22:41.17 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 22:41.18 | Industrial | ban* |
| 22:41.26 | Industrial | :'( |
| 22:41.39 | Industrial | Like I care about soccer anyway |
| 22:42.22 | Industrial | So I went to 10 years Q-Dance: De Feestfabriek in the Amsterdam Arena yesterday. Hardstyle/core/whatever. |
| 22:42.27 | Industrial | it was AWZUM |
| 22:42.34 | Industrial | q-dance.com |
| 22:47.02 | Kraps | Fisker: http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5556/nobetaclubwoot.png |
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| 22:57.29 | Satisfyme | Question: If I have defined "testVar" as a local and then create a function callen testVar:testfunction, will that function allso be a local ? |
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| 23:03.26 | Cide | Satisfyme, your question makes no sense |
| 23:03.38 | Cide | a function is never local |
| 23:03.45 | Cide | but it may only be reachable through local references |
| 23:03.50 | Cide | www.lua.org/pil |
| 23:05.35 | Satisfyme | well if you make testVar a local and then do function testVar:testfunction, then you would make that function inside that testVar, so shoult the function not allso be automatic a local since it inside the testVar ? |
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| 23:06.40 | Satisfyme | "<+Cide> but it may only be reachable through local references" that was what I ment :) |
| 23:07.53 | Kraps | people of the cata beta, are the new racials in yet? |
| 23:08.20 | Satisfyme | Kramp: what do you mean ? |
| 23:08.35 | Satisfyme | if you mean if they are playable then yes |
| 23:08.41 | Antiarc | Kraps: I don't think so |
| 23:08.54 | Ressy | Humans have nothing new. |
| 23:09.00 | Antiarc | Well, the worgen/goblin racials are in |
| 23:09.06 | Antiarc | The other races I haven't noticed a change |
| 23:09.06 | Ressy | Goblin racials are sweet |
| 23:09.57 | Satisfyme | Haven't tryed Goblin yet :P but have played Worgen for an hour or 2 :P I like the story so far :P |
| 23:10.18 | Ressy | With the goblin, you get the racials as you level. |
| 23:10.32 | Ressy | well.. some of the goblin perks anyways. |
| 23:10.45 | Satisfyme | hehe okay :) |
| 23:11.43 | Ressy | Being able to have access to your bank every 30 mins for a minute is nice. |
| 23:12.19 | Satisfyme | Nice :P Portable bank :P |
| 23:14.11 | Dagmar | Almost like being an engineer with Jeeves |
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| 23:20.52 | Cide | Satisfyme, then you already answered your own question |
| 23:23.20 | amro | http://evo2k.com/live/ |
| 23:23.25 | amro | it's official, girls suck at video games |
| 23:27.58 | amro | rofl at what they're wearing |
| 23:30.25 | Dagmar | You don't think they might be... ringers do you? |
| 23:31.00 | amro | the first two I thought were strippers they used to fill up the bracket |
| 23:31.07 | amro | but aaa.kayane is good |
| 23:31.31 | Dagmar | You remember how well the ringers fared on G4's gamer "reality" show |
| 23:32.09 | amro | I don't watch g4 |
| 23:32.21 | Dagmar | THey had one of those reality gaming-competition things |
| 23:32.29 | Dagmar | I think three of the contestants were flat out ringers. |
| 23:32.32 | amro | ahaha |
| 23:32.33 | Dagmar | They got their asses handed to them |
| 23:32.35 | amro | possibly |
| 23:32.47 | Dagmar | PLus the ones who were definitely gamers were absolute freaks |
| 23:32.52 | amro | there are a handful of great female fg players though |
| 23:33.05 | amro | in japan mostly |
| 23:33.06 | Dagmar | Lookin' at them it was freak, freak, frat boy, freak, model, freak, freak |
| 23:33.13 | amro | I doubt any of them are at evo |
| 23:33.16 | alestane | More girls game than you may think. |
| 23:33.37 | Ressy | *nod* Just look at the Real ID thread. TONS of females worried about their privacy. |
| 23:33.50 | amro | there are less of them in the FGC though |
| 23:33.53 | Dagmar | I'm not disputing that there are girl gamers. I know several. |
| 23:33.55 | amro | disproportionately less |
| 23:34.07 | amro | FGs evolved in arcades, and arcades weren't exactly female friendly |
| 23:34.09 | Dagmar | "pro" gaming competitions seem to think they should even out the numbers, or glam it up or something. |
| 23:34.30 | amro | EVO doesn't |
| 23:34.38 | amro | this year is the first time they have a women's section |
| 23:34.42 | amro | and only for ssf4 |
| 23:34.52 | Dagmar | Might have wound up being a cattle call at the tryouts then |
| 23:36.49 | amro | doubt it |
| 23:36.52 | amro | "Super Street Fighter IV Womens Invitational" |
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| 23:42.31 | amro | 17836 viewers/potential stalkers |
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