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| 00:29.59 | Shirik | alright, who thinks they know C# 3.5 |
| 00:30.05 | Shirik | var foo = new {a = 1, b = 2}; |
| 00:30.18 | Shirik | how do I create an array of foos? (Even if it's something like 3 of the same foo) |
| 00:30.31 | Wobin | I don't believe you can |
| 00:30.36 | Wobin | since foo is an anonymous type |
| 00:30.43 | Shirik | that's what I feared :( |
| 00:31.03 | Wobin | you'll have to rethink how you're going about it |
| 00:31.15 | Dashkal | There's no such things as a type annotation for a tuple in c#? |
| 00:31.17 | Wobin | eg, what is foo, and why do you have it |
| 00:31.28 | Wobin | Dashkal: no standard type |
| 00:31.46 | Wobin | imo, just make a internal class type that covers what you need |
| 00:31.46 | Dashkal | sucky |
| 00:32.23 | Wobin | if you need to extend it beyond the direct reference |
| 00:32.55 | Wobin | I mean, if you -really- want, you can cast it to an object and box/unbox it as required |
| 00:33.02 | Wobin | but that's just silly |
| 00:33.17 | Dashkal | I should relearn C# |
| 00:33.27 | Dashkal | or possibly F# |
| 00:33.28 | Wobin | There's not too much to relearn |
| 00:33.33 | Wobin | just a few extra cool stuff |
| 00:33.35 | Wobin | and LINQ |
| 00:33.54 | Dashkal | LINQ I'll have no issue with after learning Haskell |
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| 00:34.56 | Dashkal | It was actually used as a reference in the lecture series I was using to learn that language. |
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| 00:35.39 | Shirik | no |
| 00:35.41 | Shirik | not F# |
| 00:35.50 | Shirik | even Microsoft hates F# |
| 00:36.08 | PProvost | Not really |
| 00:36.12 | Shirik | yes really |
| 00:36.15 | PProvost | But very few msft devs know it |
| 00:36.22 | Wobin | Perhaps they don't talk at parties |
| 00:36.22 | Shirik | I have a friend who works on Visual Studio |
| 00:36.28 | Shirik | F# is always breaking everything, according to him |
| 00:36.30 | PProvost | I work on Visual Studio |
| 00:36.30 | Wobin | and politely ignore each other |
| 00:36.43 | Shirik | you do? |
| 00:36.44 | Cide | oh snap |
| 00:36.45 | PProvost | Yup |
| 00:36.49 | Shirik | cool maybe you know him! |
| 00:37.14 | Wobin | Hey... is that friend you know, Shirik, Peter Provost? =) |
| 00:37.39 | Cide | hush |
| 00:37.42 | Cide | don't type his name out |
| 00:37.58 | Wobin | Cide: pft, it only matters if it's said three times =P |
| 00:38.00 | Cide | real id kills a kitten |
| 00:38.04 | Cide | every time |
| 00:38.06 | Shirik | nah |
| 00:38.13 | Shirik | he's too cool to stay in this channel |
| 00:38.18 | Shirik | and he hates Lua |
| 00:38.27 | Cide | how is this guy your friend? |
| 00:38.27 | Wobin | =( |
| 00:38.43 | Wobin | Perhaps they don't talk at parties |
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| 00:40.11 | Shirik | huh? |
| 00:40.20 | Cide | if he hates this channel and hates lua |
| 00:40.24 | Cide | how is this guy your friend? |
| 00:40.28 | Cide | I mean |
| 00:40.31 | Cide | all the cool people hang here |
| 00:40.40 | Shirik | agree |
| 00:41.47 | Cide | does it compile on linux yet? |
| 00:41.51 | Cide | and do you want to play some sc2? |
| 00:45.33 | Shirik | I need to go out tonight :< |
| 00:45.50 | Cide | weak as hell |
| 00:46.01 | Cide | but ok |
| 00:48.59 | Lopeppeppy | So go out and get things done, Shirik. Real Life happens to us all, now and then. |
| 00:49.26 | Shirik | eh |
| 00:49.33 | Shirik | more complicated than that >< |
| 00:50.11 | Iriel | You dont have any clothes because you used them as notepaper in a late night brainstorm? |
| 00:51.35 | amro | Shirik: no shit, VS wasn't designed with functional languages in mind |
| 00:51.48 | amro | although I'm not sure how much F# shares with ocaml |
| 00:52.00 | airtonix | fuckbang ? |
| 00:52.35 | foxlit | Since when is # a bang? |
| 00:52.43 | amro | I sure hope fuckbang has nothing to do with camels |
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| 00:54.00 | airtonix | preps the drive-by net. |
| 00:56.38 | kd3 | wow |
| 00:56.47 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968747521&pageNo=1&sid=1#2 |
| 00:57.27 | Dagmar | In his mom's basement! LOL |
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| 00:58.53 | foxlit | 13k accounts is the interesting number |
| 01:00.00 | Dagmar | How so? |
| 01:01.35 | Dagmar | It's definitely an OMGLARGE number for angry people |
| 01:02.15 | Dagmar | Number of Blizzcon tickets sold? |
| 01:02.38 | Dagmar | I know I'd be having misgivings about letting people know I had anything to do with that if it weren't already rescinded |
| 01:02.56 | amro | huh? |
| 01:03.09 | foxlit | Dagmar: in that the number of posts is less interesting. |
| 01:03.30 | Dagmar | Okay. |
| 01:03.31 | foxlit | Gives an actual idea of scale beyond "someone spammed 17 pages at some point" |
| 01:03.40 | Dagmar | Yeah definitely |
| 01:04.23 | Dagmar | The number of posts per user that that works out to (since there was no epic spambombing) says a lot of people felt pretty strongly about it too |
| 01:04.25 | amro | it's interesting but not very meaningful without other numbers to compare it to |
| 01:04.52 | kd3 | 13k/the few million accounts in the us |
| 01:05.07 | amro | not at all |
| 01:05.10 | Dagmar | A more interesting question would be how many people got banned for getting out of control in that thread |
| 01:05.13 | amro | that's why I said it's not meaningful |
| 01:05.18 | Dagmar | I'd still like to see the trollery go away |
| 01:05.30 | amro | meaningful numbers would be average amount of accounts that actually post in the forum |
| 01:05.39 | foxlit | Nothing that can't happen with judicious moderation |
| 01:05.48 | foxlit | Trolling -> ban. |
| 01:05.58 | foxlit | But then you get Fisker. |
| 01:06.13 | Shirik | wait |
| 01:06.14 | Dagmar | If all the trolls on the forums were like Fisker, things would be better they are. |
| 01:06.17 | Dagmar | I woudlnt' even care. |
| 01:06.17 | Shirik | blizzard cancelled the realid thing? |
| 01:06.21 | Dagmar | Shirik: yes. |
| 01:06.24 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 01:06.28 | Shirik | curious |
| 01:06.39 | amro | more like obvious |
| 01:07.46 | amro | in other game industry drama news, http://kotaku.com/5583710/lawsuit-activision-created-modern-warfare-police-state |
| 01:08.54 | Dagmar | Wow |
| 01:09.54 | Shirik | huh |
| 01:09.58 | Shirik | you know what |
| 01:10.02 | Shirik | all this makes me want to play some halo 3 |
| 01:10.02 | Cide | makes the 1100+ pages seem less massive |
| 01:10.07 | Dagmar | Activision's in some doo-doo |
| 01:10.11 | Cide | when it's in reality 1/4 of that |
| 01:10.12 | Shirik | but I have to go :( |
| 01:10.16 | Cide | thank god |
| 01:10.17 | Shirik | so I will play later |
| 01:10.22 | Shirik | and blame amro |
| 01:10.23 | Cide | you owe me some sc2 |
| 01:10.23 | Shirik | kbye |
| 01:10.27 | amro | ! |
| 01:10.30 | Cide | later nub |
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| 01:13.26 | Cide- | oh shit |
| 01:13.28 | Cide- | my name is green |
| 01:13.29 | Cide- | that's nice |
| 01:17.44 | NeoTron | grats? |
| 01:17.58 | Cide- | thank you |
| 01:21.35 | airtonix | lol |
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| 01:26.05 | malreth | http://shop.moderntoss.com/images/143.jpg |
| 01:33.00 | foxlit | malreth: meh. Is C or Ck the atomic number 1 swear? |
| 01:33.13 | malreth | foxlit: C, if i recall |
| 01:33.23 | foxlit | Their demo insert shows Ck |
| 01:33.41 | malreth | that's because they're wankers |
| 01:34.04 | foxlit | Also, that's totally not where the inner transition elements go. |
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| 01:34.46 | foxlit | And they missed a row :/ |
| 01:35.16 | malreth | your mom missed a row |
| 01:36.27 | foxlit | I guess originality ran out somewhere after 18 elements. |
| 01:43.29 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54AW7V2O9xc |
| 01:44.46 | cogwheel | HAI |
| 01:45.02 | malreth | massages cogwheel |
| 01:45.06 | cogwheel | rawr |
| 01:48.14 | cogwheel | Shirik: can i use urbandictionary as a citation for wikipedia? |
| 01:48.21 | Shirik | no |
| 01:48.21 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:48.25 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointy-haired_Boss |
| 01:48.33 | Cide- | wtf shirik |
| 01:48.34 | cogwheel | often abbreviated to just PHB[citation needed] |
| 01:48.34 | Cide- | go outside |
| 01:48.39 | Cide- | sc2 eu up now btw |
| 01:48.47 | Shirik | I'm back |
| 01:49.03 | Shirik | cogwheel: Find a better citation |
| 01:49.09 | cogwheel | XD |
| 01:49.20 | Shirik | in fact I dare say that article is dangerously close to deletion |
| 01:49.33 | cogwheel | Shirik: can i write a blog post listing all the places people use it and cite that? |
| 01:49.36 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 01:49.38 | Shirik | no |
| 01:50.35 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3217425/breaking-a-for-loop-using-break-considered-harmful-c/3217465#3217465 |
| 01:50.57 | Shirik | no |
| 01:51.09 | cogwheel | i wasn't claiming that was a cite |
| 01:51.17 | cogwheel | that's what brought the issue up |
| 01:51.24 | cogwheel | i guess i should find a less volatile link ;) |
| 01:51.45 | SeanK | anyone here use Mercurial? Its been so long since I setup my repository on curseforge I can't remember where my local mercurial has my ssh key stored |
| 01:52.43 | kd3 | somewhere in ~/.hg? |
| 01:53.43 | SeanK | I looked there, I just found it in mercurial.ini in my install directory. |
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| 02:15.41 | amro | who uses .ini files anymore? |
| 02:15.49 | amro | I thought that died with windows 3.11 |
| 02:15.55 | SeanK | no kidding |
| 02:18.32 | SeanK | woot. pushed a new version to curseforge and it is already ready on curse. This is very cool |
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| 02:23.25 | Cide- | so do you want to play a few games Shirik? |
| 02:26.55 | airtonix | amro, you need to get out mroe |
| 02:26.59 | airtonix | more |
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| 02:27.10 | amro | airtonix: what? |
| 02:27.27 | airtonix | whats wrong with portable configuration files ? |
| 02:28.18 | amro | there |
| 02:28.24 | amro | there's nothing wrong with portable configuration files |
| 02:28.35 | airtonix | <amro> who uses .ini files anymore? |
| 02:28.47 | airtonix | you obviously have some sort of problem with them |
| 02:28.54 | amro | there are several ways to store configuration other than INI |
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| 02:30.26 | Mirrormn | well the other ways are to store data in the registry, or hide it away in a AppData/Raoming/whatever folder, right? |
| 02:30.30 | Mirrormn | neither of those appeal to me |
| 02:30.45 | amro | the registry is an INI file |
| 02:30.57 | tem | lol |
| 02:31.25 | amro | essentially, in win3.11 every app had its .ini file |
| 02:31.32 | amro | the registry moved it all to a central location |
| 02:31.34 | SeanK | not entirely but you certainly can map the ini functions to the registry |
| 02:31.43 | tem | I just had a guy buy a glyph of Eternal Water (permanent water elemental pet) AND a glyph of Water Elemental (-20% CD on Summon Water Elemental) |
| 02:32.02 | Cide- | he likes his H2O |
| 02:32.14 | malreth | tem: maybe he's dual spec... frost mage and lesser frost mage? |
| 02:32.21 | tem | lol |
| 02:32.40 | amro | it's summertime |
| 02:32.47 | amro | I'd imagine they melt even with Eternal Water |
| 02:33.00 | amro | I'm melting :( |
| 02:33.12 | airtonix | lights a fire |
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| 03:03.56 | haste | taroven|Rawr: pong |
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| 03:12.32 | taroven|Rawr | haste: ohai. Just had a question about cpu usage involving oUF tags, question got answered after a little extra inspection. |
| 03:12.57 | taroven|Rawr | Was for some reason thinking that tag events got sent to all tags regardless of unit, was very wrong. |
| 03:15.52 | cogwheel | Guest30031: ping |
| 03:15.57 | cogwheel | >< |
| 03:16.28 | cogwheel | The raptors Shirik|Gh! the RAPTORS!!! |
| 03:23.00 | haste | taroven|Rawr: I still have some minor optimizations I want to push as well |
| 03:23.28 | Sixen | REPTARS? |
| 03:24.54 | taroven|Rawr | haste: Excellent. Think you could push the event to the func as well? Might help things along a little in layouts |
| 03:25.23 | haste | taroven|Rawr: no, that won't happen |
| 03:25.35 | taroven|Rawr | haste: No worries there. |
| 03:26.03 | taroven|Rawr | What kind of optimization were you thinking of? |
| 03:27.08 | haste | just feeding the returns directly into the fontstring format function instead of unpacking a table |
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| 03:35.24 | taroven|Rawr | haste: Can't argue with that. |
| 03:35.46 | Guest30031 | Shirik Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable |
| 03:35.55 | Guest30031 | sup cogwheel |
| 03:36.06 | cogwheel | the raptors... |
| 03:36.10 | cogwheel | i endorsed goto |
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| 03:37.04 | Thrae | I'm sad I missed the Real ID drama. I was busy working as a forum moderator and laughing at them :( |
| 03:39.06 | Guest30031 | haha |
| 03:39.51 | cogwheel | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/07/09/if-games-had-super-easy-mode/ |
| 03:41.29 | cogwheel | O.o flavor changing gum... it's willy wonka 4rl http://www.sugarpressure.com/2010/05/stride-shift-citrus-mint-flavor-changing-gum.html |
| 03:41.46 | cogwheel | (sans side-effects) |
| 03:42.30 | Shirik | i loled at the pacman one |
| 03:43.54 | cogwheel | hmm... that gum looks a bit meh on closer read... |
| 03:44.24 | Shirik | the mortal combat one is a bit fucked up |
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| 03:48.37 | Gimp1 | anyone got a few mins to talk with me? |
| 03:48.54 | cogwheel | ~asktoask |
| 03:48.55 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 03:49.27 | Gimp1 | well it wasnt really a question, i was asking someone to take the time to explain wow to me :O |
| 03:50.00 | Gimp1 | never played untill two days ago, boring as hell so far |
| 03:50.31 | cogwheel | this is a channel for addon developers and the UI & Macros community. Someone else might know some better channels to recommend. |
| 03:50.48 | Gimp1 | so far ive been to two places...ironforge and stormwind |
| 03:50.51 | cogwheel | pokes someone else |
| 03:51.14 | Gimp1 | macros, like a botting group? |
| 03:51.36 | cogwheel | no like using the built-in macro system |
| 03:51.45 | Gimp1 | sorry, didnt know it had one |
| 03:51.51 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=11114&sid=1 |
| 03:52.32 | Gimp1 | hmm, i see so in game macros require full on code |
| 03:52.42 | cogwheel | no, but addons do |
| 03:53.00 | cogwheel | macros are just a set of slash commands |
| 03:53.18 | cogwheel | like /say or /dance, but you can also /cast and /use |
| 03:53.43 | cogwheel | /target, etc |
| 03:53.47 | Gimp1 | so could you do something like "if /say hi /cast fireball" ? |
| 03:54.49 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_a_macro <-- macro guide i created (others have maintained it for a while now) |
| 03:55.21 | cogwheel | not sure what you mean by "if", but something like that |
| 03:55.50 | cogwheel | you can pick spells based on a specific (puprosefully limited) set of conditions |
| 03:56.11 | Gimp1 | i was hoping you could run a string |
| 03:56.15 | cogwheel | you can |
| 03:56.21 | Gimp1 | cool |
| 03:56.24 | airtonix | ... |
| 03:56.31 | cogwheel | /run |
| 03:56.36 | Gimp1 | so couldnt you basically set up a macro for every monster in game...then walk around? |
| 03:56.36 | cogwheel | or loadstring in lua |
| 03:56.39 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:57.05 | Dashkal | Gimp1: Blizzard went through a lot of effort to keep you from actually making a bot in the system. You cannot cast spells except through their limited set of conditions. |
| 03:57.05 | airtonix | Gimp1, yes you can automate the game...no go make a bot |
| 03:57.08 | cogwheel | wait when you say 'run a string' do you mean actually move your character? |
| 03:58.00 | Gimp1 | no |
| 03:58.12 | Gimp1 | like i was saying earlier...something along the lines of |
| 03:58.55 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:59.17 | Gimp1 | "$ifmonstername == Ghoul && $manaabove 70% cast Fireball" |
| 03:59.20 | Gimp1 | something like that |
| 03:59.22 | kd3 | no |
| 03:59.23 | Shirik | no |
| 03:59.27 | kd3 | that hasn't been possible for /years/ |
| 03:59.47 | Gimp1 | well can i just ask the simple crap i wanted and ill leave you folks be |
| 03:59.55 | Gimp1 | buying premmy grants me what? |
| 04:00.03 | Shirik | premmy? |
| 04:00.05 | Gimp1 | how do i find quests other than walking in circles |
| 04:00.10 | Gimp1 | ...well im trial account atm |
| 04:00.12 | Gimp1 | sorry |
| 04:00.13 | kd3 | check wowwiki? |
| 04:00.19 | PProvost | Or wowhead.com |
| 04:00.50 | PProvost | For the most part, if you start in your starting zone and look for ! over people's heads, it will teach you how to play |
| 04:00.50 | Gimp1 | and how should i buy the game? just a cdkey and download it...or buy it? |
| 04:00.53 | Gimp1 | any difference? |
| 04:01.00 | kd3 | it's the same either way |
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| 04:01.08 | Gimp1 | ive already made a level 19 warlock/a level 9 pally |
| 04:01.10 | Shirik | I have no idea where my CD is |
| 04:01.40 | Gimp1 | but ive got myself lost on the warlock...stuff is getting hard |
| 04:01.45 | Gimp1 | either that or the newb is showing |
| 04:01.49 | Iriel | I'd imagine blizzard goes to great lengths to tell you how to buy the game 8-) |
| 04:02.07 | Shirik | IT'S SO HOT |
| 04:02.13 | Gimp1 | blizzard hires someone to go to great lengths to tell me how... |
| 04:02.13 | Shirik | ~weather 98073 |
| 04:02.16 | Shirik | er |
| 04:02.21 | Shirik | ~weather kpdx |
| 04:02.29 | Shirik | that is a LIE |
| 04:02.31 | Shirik | it's like 95 |
| 04:02.36 | Shirik | it was 103 today |
| 04:03.26 | Iriel | Gimp1: Their FAQ says "buy the game at a retailer or the blizzard online store" |
| 04:04.16 | Iriel | Gimp1: is there an 'upgrade' link on your account management page (via www.battle.net) ? |
| 04:04.58 | cogwheel | ~weather ksts |
| 04:05.02 | Iriel | Gimp1: You can buy a digital download here http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=110000034 |
| 04:05.18 | cogwheel | Shirik: that's gotta be current temp... |
| 04:05.24 | Shirik | sweeeet |
| 04:05.24 | cogwheel | yeesh... |
| 04:05.40 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shirik&action=history&limit=4 |
| 04:05.43 | Shirik | pro bots watching myp age |
| 04:06.04 | Shirik | well it missed one |
| 04:06.05 | Shirik | but got the last two |
| 04:06.08 | Iriel | Shirik: ~weather is giving you the temperature AT THE MOMENT at the weather station |
| 04:06.15 | Iriel | Shirik: If you want a forecast go to the weather channel |
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| 04:08.47 | Shirik | Fisker: Look at your pathetic 4chan now http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shirik&action=history |
| 04:08.52 | Shirik | oh he's not here :( |
| 04:09.36 | kd3 | you trolling 4chan again, shirik? |
| 04:09.38 | cogwheel | Charles Schulz and Deep Throat both live(d) in my town :> |
| 04:09.59 | Shirik | I am amused kd3 |
| 04:10.03 | Shirik | they're all getting blocked immediately by a bot |
| 04:14.52 | Shirik | hahahaa |
| 04:14.53 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shirik&diff=372690812&oldid=372690331 |
| 04:14.55 | Shirik | best award ever |
| 04:16.45 | PProvost | So I'm thinking about and addon but thought I'd see if anyone knew of something like it before I started writing one |
| 04:17.39 | Trela | Speil! |
| 04:17.39 | PProvost | Basically I want my chat to "slide" off the side of my screen. And if some activity happens in one of the chatframes, an indicator of some kind (like a tab maybe) glows on the side. If I click it, that chat frame slides back onto the screen. |
| 04:17.46 | PProvost | Anyone seen anything like that? |
| 04:17.54 | Shirik | ooh |
| 04:17.54 | Trela | That would be fucking awesome. |
| 04:17.55 | Shirik | I would like that |
| 04:18.06 | Trela | Sounds like it would be an easy module for Prat. |
| 04:18.06 | PProvost | Yeah |
| 04:18.09 | Trela | *easy to write |
| 04:18.12 | PProvost | I think I'll start something up tonight |
| 04:18.16 | PProvost | But not for Prat |
| 04:18.19 | PProvost | Since I don't use it |
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| 04:54.26 | Torhal | Damn. You people act like it's Friday night or something. |
| 04:54.46 | Torhal | ~weather klou |
| 04:55.39 | Shirik | jsalkflfkalkalkaslkas |
| 04:55.40 | Shirik | so hot |
| 04:55.40 | Shirik | omg |
| 04:55.46 | Shirik | PProvost, how hot is it where you are |
| 04:55.53 | Shirik | can I come up there for the weekend? |
| 04:58.01 | PProvost | It was 80s today I think |
| 04:58.24 | PProvost | But I dont live where you think I live. I work remotely. :) |
| 04:58.26 | Shirik | that's all? |
| 04:58.26 | Shirik | damn |
| 04:58.28 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:58.30 | Dagmar | ~weather KBNA |
| 04:58.30 | Shirik | ok |
| 04:58.40 | Dagmar | I know your pain |
| 04:58.50 | Shirik | negative good sir |
| 04:58.53 | Shirik | 77F is not 103F |
| 04:59.08 | Dagmar | It was 97F earlier today |
| 04:59.24 | Dagmar | Note that Mr. Humidity says right now, outisde here is like standing in a dog's mouth. |
| 05:00.00 | Shirik | according to my thermostat it is still 96F inside |
| 05:00.34 | SeanK | ~weather SEATAC |
| 05:00.43 | Shirik | ICAO codes only |
| 05:00.47 | SeanK | kk |
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| 05:01.25 | AbsolutRayne | Good evening :) |
| 05:02.19 | SeanK | ~weather KBFI |
| 05:03.00 | AbsolutRayne | http://tinyurl.com/35e6l74 I think some of you might appreciate that. :P |
| 05:03.31 | SeanK | AbsoluteRayne: epic |
| 05:05.02 | Trela | XD |
| 05:06.10 | SeanK | Reminds me of one of my first programming jobs. I created a feature that the IRS had to write a tax code for. |
| 05:08.19 | SeanK | I was working on TurboTax and we were writing a new display engine. One of the things that constantly plagued us was custom printer fonts that caused text overflows when we were trying to print Tax Forms. |
| 05:10.36 | SeanK | Anyway, I worked out a method that would constantly knock down the sized of a font by device pixels until the text would fit in the space provided. We thought it was great and it had the side effect that all user entered text would also fit in the provided area. Well some smart people decided to start writing books in the description boxes that the IRS provided and so the next year there was a new tax code that said if software re |
| 05:11.34 | Shirik | I officially broke the game |
| 05:11.44 | AbsolutRayne | Shirik: Told you to stop that. |
| 05:11.44 | SeanK | go Shirik! |
| 05:11.56 | Shirik | I was trying to figure out why it seemed like I was running so fast |
| 05:11.58 | Shirik | then I realized |
| 05:12.02 | Shirik | my mount buff was still on |
| 05:12.19 | Shirik | even though I dismounted |
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| 05:14.11 | AbsolutRayne | Thats Lag usually :P |
| 05:14.23 | AbsolutRayne | goes back to TF2 |
| 05:15.41 | batrick | WAY TO GO SHIRIK |
| 05:17.58 | cbreak | SeanK: instead of decreasing font size, would it not be more reasonable to increase the area of the text? |
| 05:19.10 | airtonix | Shirik, are you naked ? |
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| 05:25.31 | Silversage | Hello, O crowd of wisdom. |
| 05:26.45 | Silversage | Anyone have a good idea how much disk space WoW+TBC+WotLK+Cata eats up? |
| 05:27.09 | Dagmar | Imma go out on a limb and guesstimate 24gb |
| 05:27.20 | kd3 | wow's taking up ~20 gigs... cata's probably another 4 or so- |
| 05:27.31 | Shadowed | Beta takes like 33GB right now |
| 05:27.41 | Silversage | Ouch-ouch-ouch. |
| 05:28.02 | Silversage | I was hoping to buy an SD or thumb drive to hold two copies. Rats. |
| 05:28.05 | Shadowed | I think WoW is around 16GB for me, so ~22 is likely for CC |
| 05:28.17 | kd3 | a 32 gig sd card is enough for wow+bc+wotlk |
| 05:28.20 | kd3 | easily |
| 05:28.36 | Silversage | But now add Cata and double. :( |
| 05:28.43 | kd3 | that's because we're in beta |
| 05:28.51 | kd3 | there's a few copies of everything in the data files right now |
| 05:28.57 | kd3 | it'll get trimmed before release |
| 05:29.17 | Silversage | So maybe 64 would do me. |
| 05:29.36 | Mirrormn | keep in mind that a lot of people might have patch installers just sitting around in their wow folders, inflating the size unnecessarily |
| 05:29.36 | Shirik | did I not make it clear? |
| 05:29.38 | Shirik | this debate is over |
| 05:29.43 | Shirik | I will never part from this puppet, my son |
| 05:29.52 | batrick | hi shirik |
| 05:29.53 | Mirrormn | also possibly screenshots and combat logs |
| 05:29.55 | kd3 | Shirik, wha? |
| 05:30.07 | Silversage | kd3: He has indigestion. |
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| 05:31.30 | Shirik | http://www.financemoz.com/sonata-arctica-the-boy-who-wanted-to-be-a-real-puppet.html |
| 05:31.30 | Silversage | Grr. I play on an imac and a mbp, and I can't come up with anything better than a massive high-speed thumb drive to ease the pain... |
| 05:31.49 | Silversage | Except maybe bacon. |
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| 05:39.34 | Shirik | so tired |
| 05:39.37 | Shirik | I will rest for just a moment |
| 05:39.43 | Shirik | a moment == 10 hours |
| 05:39.51 | Silversage | Has anyone signed themselves up for recruit-a-friend on the same b.net account since b.net was mandatory? |
| 05:42.27 | Silversage | I'll take that as a "no". |
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| 05:42.42 | Cyrez | You can, if that's what you're asking. |
| 05:42.53 | Cyrez | Blizz doesn't care. |
| 05:46.59 | Silversage | I tried. |
| 05:47.06 | Silversage | I'm about to try something different. |
| 05:47.38 | Silversage | It doesn't work to send an invite to the email address tied to your b.net account. |
| 05:57.11 | Xinhuan | what are you trying? |
| 06:02.17 | Silversage | Like I said, I sent an invite from my b.net account to the same email address that's on that account. |
| 06:02.46 | Silversage | The next thing to try is to send it to a 2nd email address. But if they make me set up a 2nd b.net account, forget it. |
| 06:05.04 | Cyrez | Just send it to a different e-mail addy. |
| 06:05.09 | Cyrez | That's all you gotta do. |
| 06:05.18 | Cyrez | But be sure the name is the same. |
| 06:05.43 | Cyrez | Assuming it's for yourself. ^^ |
| 06:06.31 | Cyrez | And then use the code in the e-mail you get to activate the WoW account from within your Battle.net account. |
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| 06:06.44 | Cyrez | Simple as that. |
| 06:08.23 | Cyrez | Just use the code in the e-mail instead of clicking any of the links. |
| 06:08.38 | Cyrez | And activate it like you would any other game. |
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| 06:13.12 | Torhal | That only works for a different WoW account within a single Bnet account, though...? |
| 06:20.53 | Silversage | I would imagine that's the only way you can get it to work. |
| 06:21.11 | Silversage | I want to be able to transfer toons, tho, ergo the importance of being in a single b.net account. |
| 06:30.48 | Cyrez | Yeah, just do it as I said and make sure the name is the same as on your first WoW account when you tell it to send the e-mail cuz that's the name they'll stick on the account. |
| 06:31.14 | Cyrez | Er, not the name of the account itself, but, well, you know what I mean. |
| 06:46.09 | PProvost | Anyone remember the addon that let me do /zz (or something) to toggle the macro error sound/message off and on? |
| 06:47.54 | olafski | pprovost: shortmacros? :) |
| 06:48.23 | olafski | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/shortmacros.aspx |
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| 07:05.53 | PProvost | That isn't the one I remembered, but that will do. Thanks olafski |
| 07:06.04 | PProvost | I really thought it was /z or something |
| 07:06.12 | PProvost | By cog or iriel or someone like that |
| 07:06.14 | PProvost | meh |
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| 07:21.03 | Dagmar | Warlocks might be a bit OP still |
| 07:21.21 | Dagmar | Someone's downrank watcher addon just started chattering at me. |
| 07:21.31 | Dagmar | I *think* I last saw a trainer at 77. |
| 07:21.42 | Dagmar | I was #2 DPS in two different heroic pugs last night. |
| 07:21.58 | Dagmar | I just don't even know what to think about that. |
| 07:42.53 | olafski | pprovost: I considered making one letter aliases but figured that might give clashes with other functionality.. so I figured I'd make the commands at least a little descriptive :) |
| 07:43.23 | Dagmar | Bind them to one-letter keys you have to type with ALT-nnn |
| 07:43.54 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdcJVuylmsM&fmt=22 |
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| 07:45.32 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/07/code_red_the_nsfw_safety_advis.php |
| 07:45.54 | mikma | shirik: so, which one of those is NSFS? |
| 07:46.42 | Dagmar | As the Evony ads! LOL |
| 07:47.43 | olafski | oh that could work dagmar :) |
| 07:47.54 | olafski | didn't even consider you could use those in slashcommands |
| 07:48.07 | Dagmar | You'd become the freaking MASTER of 10-key data entry |
| 07:48.13 | olafski | ;) |
| 07:48.21 | olafski | well you only need to enter them a couple of times when making your macros |
| 07:49.13 | Dagmar | That advisory chart actually seems kinda well-thought out. |
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| 08:01.16 | Cairenn | chuckles at the NSFW chart |
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| 08:18.25 | Wobin | http://www.tifr.us/tifr/2010/4/11/bacon-at-at.html |
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| 09:15.35 | mrpoundsign | I have never geard of evony, but wow... hahah |
| 09:15.36 | mrpoundsign | http://contexts.org/socimages/2009/07/14/evolution-of-evony-video-game-ads/ |
| 09:16.25 | cbreak | there was an interesting article about it a few months ago on arstechnica |
| 09:22.38 | cbreak | they do much worse things than false advertising |
| 09:23.00 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/03/evony-investigating-the-game-everyone-loves-to-hate.ars |
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| 10:03.39 | harl | hello |
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| 10:05.45 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://armorgames.com/play/6301/sushi-cat-the-honeymoon |
| 10:06.19 | Cairenn | hehehe, played it before |
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| 10:12.58 | Wobin | not the HONEYMOON version! |
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| 10:21.36 | Wobin | the angrycat sound is so awesome |
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| 11:01.24 | mikma | http://steamcommunity.com/id/mikma/stats/MonkeyIsland2:SE?tab=achievements |
| 11:07.32 | Xinhuan | fast |
| 11:07.36 | Xinhuan | i haven't downloaded it yet lol |
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| 11:23.08 | mikma | xithats not fast, it got released 3 days ago! |
| 11:23.31 | mikma | lal no wonder tab didnt work |
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| 11:29.24 | amro | is there soemthing wrong with EU login? |
| 11:35.53 | cbreak | for SC2? It's down! :( |
| 11:36.21 | Cide- | Knock knock⦠who's there?... [very long pause] Java |
| 11:36.51 | amro | ~Cide-++ |
| 11:37.00 | cbreak | It'll be faster once the hotspot optimisation kicked in :) |
| 11:37.10 | Cide- | I wonder what my karma is on this |
| 11:37.13 | Cide- | ~karma Cide- |
| 11:37.13 | purl | cide- has karma of 1 |
| 11:37.17 | Cide- | aww, how cute |
| 11:37.27 | Cide- | cbreak, so what you're saying is |
| 11:38.36 | Cide- | Knock knock knock knock Knock knock knock knock Knock knock knock knock ... who's there? Java |
| 11:39.10 | Cide- | FUCK THIS SHIT |
| 11:39.21 | cbreak | ran out of memory? :) |
| 11:39.30 | Cide- | sc2's na beta failed to patch |
| 11:39.34 | cbreak | :( |
| 11:39.42 | cbreak | it's down anyway |
| 11:39.59 | Cide- | only eu |
| 11:40.02 | cbreak | I could play this morning for a few hours, but it was only enough for placement and a few more losses |
| 11:40.02 | Cide- | afaik |
| 11:40.09 | Cide- | or is NA also down? |
| 11:40.14 | cbreak | I have no idea |
| 11:40.33 | cbreak | north america is completely irelevant to me since blizzard feels like disallowing me to play there |
| 11:41.15 | cbreak | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=121265 |
| 11:41.22 | cbreak | don't ask me how they determine that |
| 11:42.10 | Cide- | well cool guys like me have two accounts |
| 11:42.10 | Cide- | ~~ |
| 11:42.11 | purl | hmm... ~ is the key |
| 11:46.50 | Cide- | if only I could patch |
| 11:49.18 | airtonix | lololololol |
| 11:50.14 | Cide- | seems like it's working now |
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| 11:53.39 | Cide- | YEAH IT WORKED BITCHES |
| 11:54.21 | Cide- | eat that |
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| 12:17.59 | Fisker | yeah |
| 12:18.01 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeah |
| 12:18.13 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgAkWxcPBE <-my lold face |
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| 12:41.33 | airtonix | sigh |
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| 13:06.09 | Jamash | sigh? |
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| 13:07.07 | Blia | hi |
| 13:07.17 | Jamash | hello |
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| 13:25.09 | Jamash | man the guild bank constants are weird |
| 13:26.06 | Cide- | hey |
| 13:26.07 | Cide- | http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/propaganda-contest.xml#inum=64&ap=6 |
| 13:26.13 | Cide- | everyone should vote for us |
| 13:26.53 | A-KO | http://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0610/graphics/nospin_10-lg.jpg < what would happen to the earth geology if the planet stopped spinning |
| 13:27.17 | Jamash | huh? |
| 13:27.39 | Jamash | you mean, if the water assumed a spherical shape but the land didn't? |
| 13:27.49 | A-KO | http://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0610/nospin.html |
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| 13:29.07 | Jamash | see now that assumes that the crust wouldn't relax as well |
| 13:29.18 | Jamash | anyway it's a neat image |
| 13:58.26 | Fisker | how hot is it? |
| 13:58.37 | Fisker | it's so hot i poured hot coffee in my lap to cool off |
| 14:01.39 | Fisker | Â |
| 14:02.23 | Fisker | bitches Jamash |
| 14:02.38 | Jamash | wat |
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| 14:13.57 | Adys | ~ping |
| 14:13.58 | purl | ~pong |
| 14:14.00 | Wobin | wth |
| 14:14.09 | Wobin | Facebook is now using apps to spam the FB chat? |
| 14:15.06 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 14:15.11 | Fisker | how would you know about that? |
| 14:15.24 | Wobin | cause I got spammed? |
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| 14:20.36 | foxlit | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/opie/tickets/2-vehiclebar-problems/ << meh. |
| 14:20.57 | foxlit | Now where do I find a vehicle I can hop on while in combat? |
| 14:21.38 | nevcairiel | thats always been an annoying test case |
| 14:21.58 | Caleb| | there is like turrets at north part of icecrown |
| 14:22.05 | Caleb| | there is some daily quest for them |
| 14:22.16 | Caleb| | you could just train some mobs to the turrents then hop in while in combat |
| 14:22.17 | nevcairiel | i believe the quest in howling fjords from the exploreres league can do |
| 14:22.26 | nevcairiel | just aggro some mob, then hop on the chopper |
| 14:22.37 | nevcairiel | (its a daily) |
| 14:23.10 | Fisker | my point exactly Wobin |
| 14:23.20 | Fisker | being spammed requires the use of facebook |
| 14:23.56 | foxlit | Hm, I was thinking drakes at the nexus, but the icecrown turrets are closer |
| 14:25.10 | foxlit | Hm, actually, gunship. |
| 14:27.45 | Fisker | btw wobin |
| 14:27.47 | Fisker | you must agree |
| 14:27.55 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgAkWxcPBE |
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| 14:29.20 | Fisker | hello foxlit |
| 14:29.24 | Wobin | is that how you dance, Fisker? |
| 14:30.50 | Fisker | almost |
| 14:36.18 | Fisker | it was my reaction when they decided not to go through with the real id thing |
| 14:37.29 | foxlit | Meh, bogus issue |
| 14:41.18 | Fisker | i will hurt you nevcairiel |
| 14:41.29 | Fisker | A BOMB |
| 14:42.15 | Fisker | bitches Caleb| |
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| 15:02.59 | foxlit | "0 Stracraft II games worldwide" |
| 15:04.42 | Fisker | old foxlit |
| 15:05.01 | Fisker | but like 650k players online! |
| 15:05.16 | foxlit | They're all... not... playing Starcraft II. |
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| 15:13.06 | foxlit | They're kind of brave with two placement matches in total :/ |
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| 15:14.26 | airtonix | foxlit, i remember those turrents would always do wierd things |
| 15:14.33 | airtonix | click to use it |
| 15:14.38 | airtonix | character slides on |
| 15:14.57 | airtonix | view port is not 180 degrees in front of where you expect it to be |
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| 15:15.03 | airtonix | instead |
| 15:15.13 | airtonix | you're only allowed to pan at your feet |
| 15:15.20 | airtonix | or |
| 15:15.23 | airtonix | click to use |
| 15:15.34 | airtonix | character gets on.... 5 meters to the left of the seat |
| 15:15.47 | airtonix | in sitting position |
| 15:15.54 | airtonix | but controls do nothing |
| 15:16.52 | airtonix | and you'd get off |
| 15:16.58 | airtonix | then look at the actual turret |
| 15:17.05 | airtonix | and it's pointing backwards |
| 15:17.16 | airtonix | away from the things you're supposed to shoot at |
| 15:19.50 | Cide- | foxlit, it's 5 |
| 15:19.54 | Cide- | the display is bugged |
| 15:20.05 | Cide- | it goes 2, 1, 0, -1, <placed> |
| 15:20.41 | Cide- | Bibi, you should support our new website by linking to our dominion submission. confirm/deny? |
| 15:27.32 | A-KO | blizz needs to release that beta patch already :( |
| 15:27.33 | A-KO | is bored |
| 15:28.53 | Fisker | i beta patch u? |
| 15:30.05 | Maldivia | A-KO: you want to play with the new awesome looking talent trees? |
| 15:30.59 | A-KO | yes :( |
| 15:31.11 | A-KO | and level with the whole specialization thing |
| 15:31.12 | Zyn | and fix the inevitable death when entering the portal next to the Sulfuron Spire :< |
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| 15:31.40 | Zyn | "go and defeat Ragnaros? uh ok ... just enter this swirly thing ... OH GOD WHERE'S THE FLOOR, SON OF A BIIIII*splat*" |
| 15:31.47 | alestane | It wasn't always inevitable. I thin kthey broke it trying to fix something else. |
| 15:32.03 | Maldivia | A-KO: expect some Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet :) |
| 15:32.13 | alestane | You're supposed to appear (and used to) about twenty feet further into the room. |
| 15:32.28 | Maldivia | yeah, I killed raggy on my mage, with arcane blast hitting for 350k :P |
| 15:32.35 | Zyn | I see that, but even the NPC falls through the floor ;< |
| 15:32.40 | alestane | Of course, back then you couldn't always get Rag to spawn or the encounter to start. |
| 15:32.50 | alestane | Yes, they did something to break the spawn points. |
| 15:32.56 | Maldivia | alestane: but the damage buff the shaman gave you was awesome :P |
| 15:33.16 | A-KO | Zyn: aww that's broken right now? |
| 15:33.19 | A-KO | Zyn: that was fun back when I did it |
| 15:33.25 | A-KO | great quest |
| 15:33.25 | Zyn | it's very broken atm |
| 15:33.34 | A-KO | damn, I was wanting to re-level my druid again to do it again |
| 15:34.10 | Maldivia | A-KO: I have my druid and paladin waiting for a fix :P |
| 15:34.21 | A-KO | I explored Vash'jir quite a bit |
| 15:34.23 | A-KO | good stuff |
| 15:35.33 | Zyn | the whale shark is terrifying D: |
| 15:38.48 | Cide- | http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/propaganda-contest.xml?i=64&a=6#gallery |
| 15:38.50 | Cide- | like it or die |
| 15:40.23 | Zyn | dies |
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| 16:11.52 | foxlit | Mikk: wtb Battle.net events category. |
| 16:12.12 | cbreak | it doesn't even have chat channels... |
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| 16:20.18 | Fisker | foxlit: |
| 16:20.21 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here |
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| 16:22.14 | Thunder_Child | cools Fisker off |
| 16:22.26 | Fisker | i wish |
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| 16:25.29 | Wobin | Cide-: I like those style of images =) You can do some clever things to good effect |
| 16:27.11 | Fisker | i can't be stopped Wobin |
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| 16:33.26 | malreth | http://twitter.com/PROMO_TWEET/status/18145748590 |
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| 16:36.37 | Wobin | http://image.bayimg.com/nangnaacj.jpg |
| 16:39.33 | Funkeh` | wowi approvals lagging behind a bit |
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| 16:41.05 | jnwhiteh | you can always just say something to someone... |
| 16:41.12 | Santera | hey guys! |
| 16:41.14 | Blia | does anyone know if there are locales (support for foreign languages) for the addon "LightHeaded" (which displays extra info about a quest) |
| 16:42.09 | Santera | I am looking for some .lua help... I am using Skada, and I would like some shadow on the names on the damage meter. No outline, just the shadow, but I don |
| 16:42.17 | Santera | but I don't know how to add it. Does anyone know? |
| 16:42.44 | Zyn | ffffffffffffff |
| 16:43.06 | jnwhiteh | Blia: no. |
| 16:43.07 | Santera | :o |
| 16:43.09 | jnwhiteh | the comments are only in English |
| 16:43.18 | jnwhiteh | so I'm not quite sure how I'd provide comments in other languages =) |
| 16:43.51 | Blia | but there are other languages for wowhead |
| 16:43.59 | jnwhiteh | if you want them for some other aspect of the addon, let me know. |
| 16:44.01 | Blia | different sub-sites. |
| 16:44.08 | jnwhiteh | and I'd have to scrape every single one of them |
| 16:44.18 | jnwhiteh | LightHeaded already consists of 8 addons |
| 16:44.26 | jnwhiteh | I'd need to duplicate that for every single 'locale' |
| 16:44.33 | jnwhiteh | would just not really be useful to anyone |
| 16:44.37 | jnwhiteh | and not really feasible. |
| 16:44.39 | jnwhiteh | sadly |
| 16:44.45 | Blia | i just wondered :-) |
| 16:44.49 | jnwhiteh | doing what I do is already too much work |
| 16:44.51 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:45.16 | Santera | no .lua experts here? :O |
| 16:45.19 | Thunder_Child | lies jnwhiteh, we know you sit around all day and do nothing |
| 16:45.38 | jnwhiteh | if I can find a way to do it, I'd consider that |
| 16:45.42 | jnwhiteh | but I wouldn't hold your breath |
| 16:45.47 | Thunder_Child | Santera: go find an addon that already does it and look there |
| 16:45.57 | jnwhiteh | Santera: you don't need a Lua expert |
| 16:46.21 | Santera | well, someone that knows what the string would look like, as I have no idea myself :( |
| 16:46.30 | Zyn | Santera : maybe with :SetShadowColor(r,g,b,a) and :SetShadowOffset(x,y) |
| 16:46.50 | Santera | i'll try that, Zyn. thanks! |
| 16:47.00 | Blia | jnwhiteh : I almost managed to get my addon work (for the moment, I wanted to add TargetFrame's portrait inside my addon window). |
| 16:47.13 | Blia | *almost* ... |
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| 16:53.10 | Fisker | sup jnwhiteh |
| 16:54.10 | Fisker | not so hey kd3 though |
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| 16:57.32 | Zyn | Fisker , fix my soundcard or something as I don't like having a constant fizzing sound in one speaker |
| 16:59.21 | Zyn | and turn down the heat, it's 27 celsius indoors |
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| 17:01.44 | mikma | fisker: i kill you |
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| 17:12.38 | Legorol | oh wow... i'd been offline for a day, and look what i missed |
| 17:13.33 | Shirik | I missed you |
| 17:15.06 | Legorol | :) |
| 17:17.33 | Thunder_Child | Legorol: nothing? |
| 17:24.38 | Shirik | I think he's talking about the realid drama |
| 17:28.29 | Dagmar | That went on for longer tha na day |
| 17:30.03 | Seerah | *ahem* I assume he's talking about yesterday's announcement ;) |
| 17:31.51 | Cide- | speaking of that |
| 17:31.51 | Cide- | upvote our dominion subscription |
| 17:32.32 | Cide- | http://us.starcraft2.com/dominion/propaganda-contest.xml?i=64&a=6#gallery |
| 17:33.47 | Thunder_Child | Cide-: stop whoring us out |
| 17:33.53 | Cide- | stop falling for it |
| 17:34.16 | Cide- | or don't |
| 17:37.28 | Blia | are you excited a lot by the upcoming release of Starcraft 2 ? |
| 17:37.57 | Blia | I would be more interested in playing a GTA MMO |
| 17:38.10 | Cide- | well you're wrong |
| 17:38.16 | Cide- | discussion over |
| 17:38.20 | Blia | ;-) |
| 17:38.42 | Blia | don't get me wrong, I love strategy games.. |
| 17:38.57 | Blia | <3 Command and Conqueer |
| 17:39.10 | cbreak | now that's a minimal page Cide-. Just five lines of xml |
| 17:39.13 | cbreak | no content of any kind |
| 17:39.15 | Thunder_Child | D3 > * |
| 17:39.32 | Blia | D3 ? diablo 3 ? |
| 17:41.30 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 17:41.45 | A-KO | Blia: isn't that what APB is?.... |
| 17:41.45 | Legorol | Blizzard is the most ballsy company I know, and I respect them a lot. The original forum-realid announcement was bold. Reversing it (effectively admitting it was a mistake) is phenomenal. |
| 17:42.08 | cbreak | more natural |
| 17:42.23 | cbreak | if it was a mistake and they stick with it, it will cause problems. |
| 17:42.24 | Blia | APB ? |
| 17:42.33 | Thunder_Child | all points bulliten |
| 17:42.38 | Thunder_Child | or however it is spelled |
| 17:42.42 | A-KO | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APB_(2010_video_game) |
| 17:43.22 | A-KO | hmm |
| 17:43.25 | A-KO | what to do about lunch |
| 17:43.40 | Thunder_Child | eat it |
| 17:43.56 | A-KO | I need to find something to eat, first |
| 17:44.18 | A-KO | hmm |
| 17:44.21 | A-KO | frozen pizza might work |
| 17:44.28 | A-KO | that'll give me the ability to hit up a movie at 2:30, too |
| 17:44.30 | A-KO | win |
| 17:45.42 | cbreak | good choices for fast food: banana, apple, crackers |
| 17:52.04 | mikma | there, all achievements from MI2SE :D |
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| 17:52.12 | Shirik | apple is actually a poor choice |
| 17:52.18 | Shirik | too many carbs |
| 17:52.28 | Shirik | banana is good |
| 17:53.17 | cbreak | carbs are good. energy ftw. |
| 17:53.39 | cbreak | bread! :) |
| 17:54.22 | Shirik | no |
| 17:54.51 | Shirik | Cide are you using VS2010 or 2008? |
| 17:57.16 | Dagmar | Apples are good for you. |
| 17:57.35 | Dagmar | Gimmick diets are for fools. |
| 17:57.42 | Thunder_Child | they keep doctors away |
| 17:57.43 | Shirik | it's not a gimmick diet |
| 17:58.16 | Shirik | everyone knows your fat-carb-protein breakdown should be about 20-50-30 |
| 17:58.22 | Shirik | apples have a ton of sugar in them |
| 17:58.23 | Thunder_Child | banans have quite a few calories |
| 17:58.30 | Dagmar | Right so let's eliminate carbs from the diet entirely then. |
| 17:58.34 | Shirik | no |
| 17:58.44 | Dagmar | Then how does *one* apple constitute a problem |
| 17:58.46 | Shirik | but eating apples is likely to send you off the charts after you factor everything else in |
| 17:58.53 | Shirik | unless you avoid carbs for the rest of the day |
| 17:58.57 | Dagmar | Not "apples". One apple. |
| 17:59.54 | Thunder_Child | my diest it is the best, it's called a 'new job' |
| 17:59.57 | Thunder_Child | diet* |
| 18:01.16 | Dagmar | Banana, 55. Apple, 38. |
| 18:01.20 | Dagmar | http://www.carbs-information.com/glycemic-index-food-chart.htm |
| 18:01.39 | Shirik | but bananas have protein |
| 18:01.57 | Dagmar | Bananas also contain potassium |
| 18:02.04 | Shirik | overall, bananas do have more calories yes |
| 18:02.24 | Dagmar | If you're a raver, bananas are your friends. |
| 18:02.33 | Shirik | raver? |
| 18:02.35 | Dagmar | Otherwise, "the day after" is just awful. |
| 18:02.40 | Shirik | ._. |
| 18:02.50 | Dagmar | ...and I'm not talking about the drugs. |
| 18:03.17 | Dagmar | Run a marathon, then eat banannas. Compare it to how you feel if you *don't* load up on potassium |
| 18:03.44 | Dagmar | It keeps the godawful muscle cramps away |
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| 18:06.06 | Fisker | Zyn: |
| 18:06.10 | Fisker | fix my damn motherboard |
| 18:06.17 | Zyn | no |
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| 18:06.35 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:08.39 | Fisker | you cannot stop me Shirik |
| 18:08.46 | Fisker | also how do i get PITA title? |
| 18:09.05 | Shirik | Cide- |
| 18:09.09 | Shirik | Cide- Cide- Cide- |
| 18:09.23 | Fisker | excuse me Shirik |
| 18:09.27 | Fisker | but what are you trying to do? |
| 18:09.37 | Shirik | get Cide-'s attention |
| 18:10.13 | Fisker | i will not let you succeed |
| 18:11.55 | Fisker | lol google |
| 18:12.08 | Fisker | suggesting another search result and then that particular result has 0 hits |
| 18:12.09 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:12.13 | Fisker | hurrdurr |
| 18:12.33 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 18:12.36 | Fisker | i'm using VS2010 |
| 18:12.38 | Shirik | k |
| 18:13.06 | Fisker | it appears that you cannot do anything about that |
| 18:13.11 | Shirik | nop |
| 18:13.29 | Fisker | but fix my computer |
| 18:13.42 | Fisker | my DPC latency is over 1 million |
| 18:14.23 | Fisker | which is over 9000 btw |
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| 18:15.59 | Fisker | i cannot be stopped alestane_ |
| 18:16.50 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 18:18.02 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:18.10 | Fisker | when do they make hotswappable motherboards? |
| 18:18.34 | Dagmar | When you shell out about 22 grand for the box |
| 18:18.48 | Fisker | sauce |
| 18:20.13 | Fisker | SAAAAAAAAAAAAUCE |
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| 18:20.50 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NgAkWxcPBE <-By next week this better beat the crap out of the untergang spoofs |
| 18:22.36 | alestane | Is there a reason I should, Fisker? |
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| 18:27.00 | Shirik | Cide |
| 18:27.02 | Shirik | ffs |
| 18:27.02 | Shirik | stop ignoring me |
| 18:27.21 | Dagmar | Fisker: I don't see how. No one wants to stare at _ugly_ germans |
| 18:27.34 | Fisker | germans? |
| 18:27.35 | Fisker | lols |
| 18:27.53 | Fisker | i'm just gonna be a big racist and say he's russian |
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| 18:27.56 | Fisker | unless i'm right |
| 18:28.00 | Dagmar | Might be polish |
| 18:28.10 | Fisker | not german though |
| 18:28.10 | nevcairiel | its not polish |
| 18:28.11 | Dagmar | Either way, dude's ugly and he can't even dance |
| 18:28.14 | nevcairiel | sounds like some eastern lang |
| 18:28.18 | nevcairiel | eh |
| 18:28.20 | nevcairiel | not german |
| 18:28.22 | nevcairiel | you confuse me |
| 18:28.26 | Fisker | don't be racist nevcairiel |
| 18:28.59 | Shirik | vandra på |
| 18:29.47 | cogwheel | umm what do you suppose the stance is on exploiting in beta? I just found a free source of gold... |
| 18:30.02 | nevcairiel | they have said before, cheating is not ok anywhere |
| 18:30.06 | Shirik | report it :) |
| 18:30.14 | nevcairiel | indeed, report it |
| 18:30.14 | cogwheel | yeah, didn't think so... i submitted a bug report |
| 18:31.59 | Fisker | meh nevcairiel |
| 18:32.07 | Fisker | as long as you don't grief others i doubt they give a shit |
| 18:32.15 | Fisker | unless you're using hack programs of any kind |
| 18:32.24 | Fisker | Unless you of course didn't report it |
| 18:32.41 | cogwheel | there's a place where none of the vendors take your money but they'll buy stuff back from you... |
| 18:33.19 | Fisker | report it, reach gold cap, ???, profit |
| 18:33.29 | Fisker | btw did they increase gold cap or anything like that? |
| 18:33.41 | cogwheel | like i'd know -_ |
| 18:33.44 | cogwheel | - |
| 18:33.54 | Fisker | report it, reach gold cap, ???, profit |
| 18:33.54 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:34.21 | Cide | shirik: I never ignore you |
| 18:34.28 | Cide | my girlfriend borrowed my computer and closed xchat |
| 18:34.30 | Fisker | btw those damn authenticators are hard to pry up |
| 18:34.52 | Fisker | more like your girlfriend borrowed your computer, cybered with me, erased the evidence by closing xchat |
| 18:35.13 | Cide | shirik: what did you say? |
| 18:35.24 | Fisker | if you use VS2010 or 2008 |
| 18:35.30 | Fisker | I use VS2010 because i'm 1337 |
| 18:36.14 | Fisker | why do you hate me Cide ? |
| 18:36.17 | Cide | shirik: I use 2010, why? |
| 18:36.21 | Cide | Fisker, I actually antihate you |
| 18:36.42 | Fisker | so you're like a black hole for me? |
| 18:36.50 | Cide | no... |
| 18:36.54 | Fisker | nice |
| 18:37.03 | Fisker | because i don't think i can reach escape velocity if you were |
| 18:37.14 | Shirik | btw Cide I found out we can use perforce, lol |
| 18:37.19 | Shirik | but I guess we should keep using git |
| 18:37.24 | Fisker | i perforce you |
| 18:37.28 | Shirik | perforce is free for <= 2 users |
| 18:37.40 | Cide | up to you |
| 18:37.44 | Cide | I have no preferences |
| 18:37.45 | Shirik | nah might as well use git |
| 18:37.52 | Cide | ok :) |
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| 18:40.00 | Fisker | so Shirik |
| 18:40.11 | Shirik | so Fisker |
| 18:40.13 | Shirik | Cide: See PM |
| 18:40.15 | Fisker | what is your basis for this VS2010 vs VS2008 flamefest? |
| 18:40.22 | Fisker | (LOL VS vs VS) |
| 18:41.00 | Shirik | there is no flameage |
| 18:41.11 | Fisker | you suck Shirik |
| 18:41.12 | Fisker | now there is |
| 18:41.18 | Fisker | EXPLAIN EXPLAIN EXPLAAAAAAAAAAAAIN |
| 18:42.47 | Fisker | :( |
| 18:42.56 | Fisker | i will kill myself Shirik |
| 18:43.04 | Fisker | but not until i take over your body |
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| 18:44.08 | amro | sc2 update stalled :( |
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| 18:45.47 | kd3 | whee, kali crashed |
| 18:45.52 | Cide | kali? |
| 18:45.54 | kd3 | was fun watching the /part flood in beta |
| 18:45.55 | Cide | blast from the past |
| 18:45.57 | kd3 | kalimdor on lost isles |
| 18:46.03 | Cide | oh |
| 18:46.16 | Cide | kali was what I used to play the hacked wc3 beta |
| 18:47.27 | Fisker | tsk Cide |
| 18:47.54 | Fisker | do something Cide |
| 18:48.37 | Fisker | it's hot in here |
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| 18:51.36 | SeanK | Where is the definitive explanation on how to implement slash commands in your addon? I renamed my addon and now the slash commands are broken |
| 18:53.00 | SeanK | SLASH_SUSHISORT1 = "/SS"; |
| 18:53.00 | SeanK | SlashCmdList["SUSHISORT"] = SOCD_SlashCommand; |
| 18:54.54 | SeanK | Its in the SushiSort directory |
| 18:55.17 | SeanK | SushiSort.toc looks like this |
| 18:55.22 | SeanK | ## Interface: 30305 |
| 18:55.25 | SeanK | ## Title: Sushi Sort |
| 18:55.27 | SeanK | ## Notes: Bag ans Bank Sorting Addon. Access the menu with "/ss" |
| 18:55.27 | kd3 | whoa, whoa |
| 18:55.30 | kd3 | don't paste in here |
| 18:55.44 | kd3 | wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 18:55.54 | kd3 | is your folder called SushiSort ? |
| 18:56.00 | SeanK | yes |
| 18:56.25 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Creating_a_slash_command |
| 18:56.38 | Fisker | your toc is wrong btw |
| 18:56.51 | SeanK | how so? |
| 18:56.52 | kd3 | also, that. we're still on 30300 |
| 18:57.09 | kd3 | unless there's a big api-breaking change, they don't change the toc number |
| 18:57.23 | SeanK | ok |
| 18:57.25 | kd3 | even though there were big api-breaking changes in 3.3.5... >.> |
| 18:57.28 | kd3 | sighs |
| 18:57.37 | cogwheel | i know rite? |
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| 18:58.03 | Fisker | btw kd3 and cogwheel |
| 18:58.08 | Zot3x | Hi, i have some question about wow please type to me if you an solve those question i got. |
| 18:58.08 | Fisker | one day imma love you out of the beta |
| 18:58.10 | Thunder_Child | and you might want to spell 'and' right, but thats a minor thing |
| 18:58.32 | Thunder_Child | ~asktoask |
| 18:58.33 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 18:59.02 | SeanK | cool. thanks |
| 18:59.18 | Zot3x | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.35 | Xinhuan | just ask |
| 18:59.37 | Thunder_Child | i feel a fail coming on |
| 18:59.51 | Xinhuan | by asking, i mean in the channel |
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| 19:00.47 | Zot3x | Is intel(R) Pentium (R) 4 cpu 3.00Ghz enough for wow? with an geforce 9800 gt graphic? |
| 19:00.54 | kd3 | yes |
| 19:01.11 | Xinhuan | more than sufficient |
| 19:01.13 | Zot3x | why am i laagy in dalaran then? |
| 19:01.23 | kd3 | because /everyone/ is laggy in dalaran |
| 19:01.26 | Xinhuan | because in dalaran, there is about 300 people standing in it |
| 19:01.26 | Thunder_Child | that might be your internet conection |
| 19:01.39 | Xinhuan | also by laggy, do you mean low fps, or high ping? |
| 19:02.08 | Zot3x | ok then.. when i am playin prototype i am laagy too and my friend have the same graphic but not same proccesor and he dont have laag and same internet connection |
| 19:02.24 | Zot3x | so it might be the proccesor? |
| 19:02.29 | Thunder_Child | might have different video options enabled |
| 19:02.36 | Zot3x | nope :) |
| 19:02.45 | Zot3x | i turned it all on low |
| 19:02.47 | SeanK | kd3: I followed the steps on the webpage and the slash command does not work. Is there a minimum number of characters or something my command is /ss |
| 19:02.48 | Zot3x | but still laagy |
| 19:02.55 | Thunder_Child | ok, but prototype is not wow |
| 19:03.03 | Zot3x | yes but still |
| 19:03.06 | Zot3x | when i am rading |
| 19:03.08 | Zot3x | i am laagy |
| 19:03.14 | Zot3x | it might be my proccesr? |
| 19:03.21 | Thunder_Child | do you have a lot of addons? |
| 19:03.26 | Zot3x | nope :P |
| 19:03.27 | Xinhuan | by laggy, do you mean low fps, or high ping? |
| 19:03.33 | Zot3x | only 5 addons :P |
| 19:03.40 | Zot3x | low fps :p |
| 19:03.53 | Xinhuan | different video drivers? |
| 19:04.05 | Thunder_Child | updated audio/vidio drivers? |
| 19:04.10 | Thunder_Child | video* |
| 19:04.12 | Zot3x | i just have |
| 19:04.18 | Xinhuan | operating system? |
| 19:04.38 | Zot3x | i reinstall windows + downloaded new updates from graphic |
| 19:04.41 | Dagmar | Might wanna ask what video card he has |
| 19:04.49 | Zot3x | video card? |
| 19:04.55 | Zot3x | geforce nvidia 9800 gt |
| 19:04.56 | Grum | so Zot3x: whatsup with you messaging random people? |
| 19:06.10 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.17 | Grum | also, what windows, how many monitors? |
| 19:06.50 | Zot3x | i wanted to ask if this proccesor is for gamin especcialy WOW * Core 2 Duo E8400 6 MB (Intel Boxed) |
| 19:07.04 | Xinhuan | your system is way better than mine |
| 19:07.05 | Zot3x | 64 bit and it's windows 7 |
| 19:07.14 | Zot3x | xinhuan? |
| 19:07.16 | Xinhuan | i play on a Core 2 duo, E6550 |
| 19:07.18 | Zot3x | could you try to watch it? |
| 19:07.21 | Xinhuan | and my gx card is a 8800gt |
| 19:07.31 | Xinhuan | i also use win 7 64 |
| 19:07.34 | Zot3x | :P |
| 19:07.47 | Zot3x | could you try to fix the problem through teamviewer? |
| 19:07.59 | Xinhuan | with medium settings i still have some 30-40 fps in dalaran though |
| 19:08.06 | Grum | what is the problem? i still havent seen how much fps you have |
| 19:08.30 | Zot3x | the problem is i laaag in dalaran fps 30-50 |
| 19:08.35 | Grum | do you play fullscreen, windowed, maximized windowed, single monitor dual, stretched over multiple displays |
| 19:08.42 | Zot3x | no sorry not dalaran in 25 man rads |
| 19:08.43 | kd3 | 30-50 is good for dalaran |
| 19:08.43 | Grum | 30-50 is *NOT* laaaaag |
| 19:08.44 | Zot3x | raids* |
| 19:08.46 | Xinhuan | 30-50 fps is _not_ laggy |
| 19:08.57 | Xinhuan | laggy is 10 fps |
| 19:08.58 | Zot3x | then why am i laaging in 25 raid all the time? |
| 19:09.06 | Grum | do you have your combatlog still? |
| 19:09.10 | Zot3x | i am stopping all the time |
| 19:09.15 | kd3 | because that's a separate issue. it's probably a net-related thing |
| 19:09.16 | Grum | using any addons? |
| 19:09.16 | Zot3x | no . |
| 19:09.23 | Zot3x | 4 addons |
| 19:09.25 | Xinhuan | perhaps you have addon profiling on |
| 19:09.28 | Grum | you have turned off the combatlog completely? |
| 19:09.30 | Xinhuan | that KILLS fps |
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| 19:09.41 | Zot3x | only 4 addons? |
| 19:09.43 | Grum | ok, 4 addons, which 4 addons |
| 19:09.59 | mikma | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1408101/ |
| 19:10.01 | mikma | hot |
| 19:10.05 | Zot3x | x-pearl, auctionar, atlasloot, gladiator |
| 19:10.16 | Grum | what resolution do you play on? |
| 19:10.27 | Grum | which AA settings? (Anti Alias) |
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| 19:10.36 | Zot3x | Neptulon |
| 19:10.55 | Zot3x | aa settings? :P |
| 19:11.12 | Grum | yes, multisampling i think its called |
| 19:11.25 | Zot3x | i dont know acctualy :P |
| 19:11.39 | Grum | so what resolution do you play? |
| 19:12.22 | Zot3x | ? |
| 19:12.31 | Zot3x | realm? |
| 19:12.35 | Grum | no, resolution |
| 19:12.46 | Grum | you are from denmark, you play with an english client |
| 19:12.58 | kd3 | no. like 1680x1050, 1280x1024 |
| 19:13.02 | Zot3x | oh |
| 19:13.06 | Zot3x | yes |
| 19:13.16 | Zot3x | 1280x800 |
| 19:13.24 | Grum | you are playing on a laptop? |
| 19:13.30 | Zot3x | no |
| 19:13.33 | Zot3x | widescreen |
| 19:13.37 | Xinhuan | that sounds like a 17" widescreen |
| 19:13.38 | Zot3x | statinoaare |
| 19:13.44 | Thunder_Child | you can have a widescreen laptop |
| 19:13.45 | Zot3x | 19 widescreen :P |
| 19:13.52 | Zot3x | not laptop :P |
| 19:13.57 | Grum | hmm odd resolution :) |
| 19:14.02 | Grum | so how much fps do you have in raids? |
| 19:14.04 | Zot3x | then which one should i have :P? |
| 19:14.07 | Zot3x | hm |
| 19:14.20 | Zot3x | still 20-30 i guess or something |
| 19:14.20 | Xinhuan | i have 10 fps in some fights myself |
| 19:14.25 | Grum | how is that bad? |
| 19:14.28 | Zot3x | donno |
| 19:14.30 | Zot3x | i am laagy |
| 19:14.30 | Xinhuan | its not really a problem |
| 19:14.37 | Grum | laggy in what? |
| 19:14.40 | Grum | what are the symptoms? |
| 19:14.42 | Zot3x | in the game |
| 19:14.45 | Grum | your mouse lags? |
| 19:14.48 | Zot3x | no. |
| 19:14.49 | Grum | what lags? |
| 19:14.54 | kd3 | a network thing? |
| 19:14.54 | Zot3x | when i am rading |
| 19:14.57 | Zot3x | nope |
| 19:15.02 | Grum | could simply be serverlag |
| 19:15.05 | Zot3x | can't be the network checked |
| 19:15.11 | Zot3x | not even serverlaag :) |
| 19:15.17 | Zot3x | only 25 man raids i am laaagy |
| 19:15.19 | Grum | what is your ping? |
| 19:15.21 | Zot3x | in 10 man its fine |
| 19:15.22 | Thunder_Child | but you cant even give us an example of the lag |
| 19:15.24 | Zot3x | high |
| 19:15.26 | Grum | its 'laggy' and 'lag' |
| 19:15.29 | Grum | high? |
| 19:15.34 | Grum | 10? 30? 500? 700? |
| 19:15.35 | Zot3x | ok i give an exaple |
| 19:15.38 | Zot3x | Oo |
| 19:15.40 | Thunder_Child | good |
| 19:15.43 | Zot3x | i dont know about that |
| 19:16.14 | Zot3x | like: when i am rading i am useally as a healer . when we are fighiting the boss or when i am casting spells its going to slow. |
| 19:16.15 | Grum | please explain how you 'have lag' because it might also be something other than wow running on your pc |
| 19:16.26 | Grum | what is slow? |
| 19:16.31 | Xinhuan | so, you're simply complaining about "lag" when you don't even know the details of your "lag" |
| 19:16.34 | Grum | you see the castbar update with jumps? its not smooth? |
| 19:16.34 | Thunder_Child | network thing |
| 19:16.35 | Zot3x | the game |
| 19:16.41 | Xinhuan | you need to say how slow is slow, how laggy is lag, in numbers |
| 19:16.43 | Thunder_Child | err...sounds like a network thing* |
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| 19:17.01 | Grum | Zot3x: in *every* 25m raid you have problems? |
| 19:17.02 | Zot3x | its so laagy that i can't even keep up with the others |
| 19:17.05 | Grum | or only in some fights? |
| 19:17.08 | Zot3x | yes |
| 19:17.10 | Zot3x | only 25 man |
| 19:17.11 | Grum | keep up with what? |
| 19:17.20 | Zot3x | with the others |
| 19:17.25 | Grum | with 'healing done' ? |
| 19:17.26 | kd3 | then, yes. it's an internet thing. there's too much addon spam happening in the addon channel |
| 19:17.29 | Zot3x | no |
| 19:17.34 | Zot3x | by be near the others |
| 19:17.36 | Grum | kd3: unlikely |
| 19:17.36 | Xinhuan | not to be mean, but you aren't being specific enough |
| 19:17.41 | Zot3x | they always had to wait for me -.-' |
| 19:17.45 | Zot3x | hm. |
| 19:17.49 | Grum | wait, in what way? |
| 19:18.07 | Grum | i've seen loads of different kinds of lag |
| 19:18.15 | Zot3x | hm.. |
| 19:18.20 | Xinhuan | you're just saying "lag", "slow", "can't catch up", but can't quantify it |
| 19:18.27 | Zot3x | well |
| 19:18.35 | Zot3x | i arent that good with setting and those in my own pc. |
| 19:18.56 | Zot3x | but even if i turned video settings in wow at low* i am still laagy in 25 man raids. :S |
| 19:19.01 | Zot3x | wait |
| 19:19.04 | Xinhuan | there's also different kinds of "lag", such as network lag, video lag, mouse lag |
| 19:19.06 | Zot3x | i could tell my pc name? |
| 19:19.11 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 19:19.30 | Zot3x | its an acer aspire t671 with an nvidia gefore 9800 gt |
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| 19:19.52 | Grum | Zot3x: your pc is fine |
| 19:19.59 | Grum | but you also say you have 20fps |
| 19:20.03 | Xinhuan | when you say you can't catch up with others, do you mean that when you cast a heal, you don't see it get casted until 10 seconds later? |
| 19:20.03 | Grum | 20 fps is *not* laggy |
| 19:20.25 | Grum | to be frank, i'm happy to get 20fps in some 25m raiding situations |
| 19:20.33 | Grum | and i've got quite a better setup than you :/ |
| 19:20.40 | Zot3x | yes xinhuan but more like 5 sec. and when we all running together i am laagy too. |
| 19:20.49 | Xinhuan | ok then you have a bandwidth issue |
| 19:20.55 | kd3 | called it! |
| 19:20.59 | Xinhuan | your down-stream bandwidth is insufficient for 25 man raids |
| 19:21.09 | Xinhuan | you require about 30 kb/sec in certain fights |
| 19:21.10 | Zot3x | bandwidth issue? |
| 19:21.14 | Grum | Zot3x: http://speedtest.net/ <-- check your speed there, 'Begin Test' |
| 19:21.14 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 19:21.16 | Xinhuan | download speed |
| 19:21.24 | Xinhuan | your download speed is too slow in a 25-man situation |
| 19:21.36 | Xinhuan | in particular, bloodqueen, marrowgar and lich king uses a lot more than others |
| 19:21.41 | Xinhuan | other fights |
| 19:21.52 | Grum | http://www.speedtest.net/result/875468044.png |
| 19:22.06 | Zot3x | 76.26 mbps |
| 19:22.22 | Xinhuan | so if a fight is sending you 40 kb/sec of combat data, and your connection can only download at 30 kb/sec, the last 10kb/sec "lags behind" every sec |
| 19:22.27 | Zot3x | 75.00 download mb |
| 19:22.30 | Xinhuan | you won't get d/c, you'll eventually catch up |
| 19:22.47 | Zot3x | but i heal low because of i laag :P |
| 19:23.08 | Xinhuan | its probably a pipe issue between your ISP and the US |
| 19:23.27 | Zot3x | and can it be fixed? |
| 19:23.35 | Xinhuan | you have to call up your ISP for that one |
| 19:23.43 | Zot3x | isp? |
| 19:23.50 | Xinhuan | internet service provider |
| 19:23.53 | kd3 | internet service provider. who you pay to get internet from |
| 19:23.59 | Xinhuan | the company that gives you your internet |
| 19:24.04 | Zot3x | hm. |
| 19:24.22 | Zot3x | but is 76.26 mbps not enough? |
| 19:24.29 | Zot3x | grum? |
| 19:24.39 | Xinhuan | it is, but the route that the data takes from the Blizzard servers to your house isn't |
| 19:24.49 | kd3 | that's plenty. you've got by far better net access than most of us |
| 19:24.51 | Zot3x | its lan |
| 19:24.53 | Xinhuan | imagine going to work from home |
| 19:24.58 | kd3 | looks at his 1.5/128 and sighs |
| 19:25.01 | Xinhuan | and you have to pass through a traffic jam |
| 19:25.11 | Xinhuan | even if the remainder of the roads are 76.26 mbps |
| 19:25.18 | Xinhuan | if you have to pass through that traffic jam |
| 19:25.21 | Zot3x | mhm |
| 19:25.22 | Xinhuan | you will lag |
| 19:25.39 | Zot3x | but in this city were i am living in we all have the same ip |
| 19:25.40 | Xinhuan | even my own connection is only 8mbps |
| 19:25.44 | Zot3x | it might be the problem? |
| 19:25.46 | Xinhuan | and you're telling me you have 76 =.= |
| 19:25.52 | Zot3x | it is |
| 19:26.00 | Zot3x | 76.27 mb/s |
| 19:26.06 | Xinhuan | 76 is like a corporate line |
| 19:26.09 | Iriel | Xinhuan: technically in the situation you describe lag will increase constantly DURING the fight |
| 19:26.12 | Xinhuan | for an entire building |
| 19:26.16 | Xinhuan | yah it will iriel |
| 19:26.17 | Zot3x | 76 is low? |
| 19:26.22 | fiphi | No. |
| 19:26.35 | Xinhuan | there was a time i was using a 56k modem to raid |
| 19:26.42 | Xinhuan | when magmadar died on vent |
| 19:26.47 | Zot3x | download: 76.27 Uploas: 75.54 |
| 19:26.48 | Xinhuan | i was still seeing it at 56% on my screen |
| 19:26.56 | Xinhuan | that 56% slowly became 0% |
| 19:27.07 | Xinhuan | and when it became 0% everyone started teleporting around as the data stream caught up |
| 19:27.18 | Zot3x | xin? |
| 19:27.36 | Iriel | Xinhuan: it could be that a network component is dropping or corrupting data under load, and that it takes 10 sec for the stream to get a sufficiently clean packet out of the way |
| 19:27.44 | Xinhuan | could be |
| 19:27.48 | Xinhuan | either way only your ISP can fix that |
| 19:27.56 | Xinhuan | so just call them and complain |
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| 19:28.00 | Zot3 | sorry |
| 19:28.03 | Zot3 | got a bit kick :P |
| 19:28.10 | Zot3 | xin? |
| 19:28.17 | Xinhuan | call your ISP and complain |
| 19:28.20 | Grum | Zot3: its quite useful to know your ping ingame |
| 19:28.40 | Zot3 | ok sec :P |
| 19:28.44 | Iriel | can you do a speedtest to a location near your realm's data center? |
| 19:28.55 | Grum | (to paris iirc) |
| 19:28.55 | Zot3 | hm? |
| 19:28.57 | Xinhuan | that would work Iriel :P |
| 19:29.03 | Zot3 | :p |
| 19:29.24 | Zot3 | but which resolution should i have with and widescreen "19"? |
| 19:29.40 | Grum | go to: http://speedtest.net/ and select Paris on the map |
| 19:29.51 | Zot3 | ok |
| 19:30.14 | Grum | and give us the link to the image it generates at the end |
| 19:30.20 | Xinhuan | your problem isn't related to your graphics or resolution |
| 19:30.31 | Xinhuan | or at least, its a different problem |
| 19:30.52 | Grum | it could still be wow (combatlog or profiling) or network |
| 19:31.02 | Grum | profiling is not likely |
| 19:31.10 | Zot3 | 55.45 |
| 19:31.14 | Zot3 | is it from here to paris |
| 19:31.23 | Iriel | Do the pingtest as well |
| 19:31.26 | Iriel | it's linked from speedtest |
| 19:31.35 | Zot3 | pingtest? |
| 19:31.39 | Xinhuan | its possible the ISP side also QoS filters for wow, but unlikely |
| 19:31.47 | Zot3 | http://www.speedtest.net/result/875475537.png |
| 19:31.54 | Zot3 | there grum http://www.speedtest.net/result/875475537.png |
| 19:31.54 | kd3 | but only in raids? |
| 19:32.02 | Zot3 | yes and dalaran ofc. |
| 19:32.16 | kd3 | no, no. I was directing that at xin |
| 19:32.28 | Xinhuan | hmm? |
| 19:32.42 | Zot3 | xin? |
| 19:32.45 | Zot3 | look here |
| 19:32.46 | Zot3 | http://www.speedtest.net/result/875475537.png |
| 19:33.01 | Xinhuan | yeah if it exceeds a certain amount of traffic, it might incur traffic shaping |
| 19:33.14 | Zot3 | so its the isp? |
| 19:33.26 | Xinhuan | most likely |
| 19:33.38 | Zot3 | ok then you wont prefere me to buy http://www.edbpriser.dk/Product/Details.aspx?pid=419451? |
| 19:33.47 | Zot3 | Core 2 Duo E8400 6 MB (Intel Boxed) |
| 19:33.48 | Zot3 | * |
| 19:33.56 | Zot3 | instead of my currently proccesor? |
| 19:34.00 | Xinhuan | does your friend use the same ISP as you? |
| 19:34.02 | kd3 | that's not going to fix it |
| 19:34.06 | Zot3 | nope |
| 19:34.16 | Zot3 | he have fast ip (he's onw) and i am using local |
| 19:34.19 | Xinhuan | then its -most likely- the isp |
| 19:34.27 | Xinhuan | what you can TRY is to bring your PC to his place |
| 19:34.37 | Zot3 | ye! |
| 19:34.44 | Xinhuan | and see if it lags there |
| 19:34.51 | Zot3 | but he have a better proccesor then mine ;) |
| 19:35.01 | Zot3 | core 2 duo |
| 19:35.02 | kd3 | that doesn't matter if your isp is the problem |
| 19:35.05 | Grum | depending on what sort of lag you have a cpu is not going to fix it |
| 19:35.20 | Zot3 | Oh |
| 19:35.31 | Zot3 | so that might be the problem hm.. |
| 19:35.55 | Grum | well, i (and possibly others) dont quite understand what type of lag you have :) |
| 19:36.08 | Grum | you say that people in your raid have to wait for you to 'catch up' ? |
| 19:36.10 | Grum | when running? |
| 19:36.20 | Zot3 | not at running |
| 19:36.28 | Zot3 | but in the whole raid (25man) |
| 19:36.32 | Zot3 | and a bit on 10 man |
| 19:36.47 | Grum | so when does it happen, only when you are in combat? |
| 19:37.12 | Zot3 | 1on1? |
| 19:37.16 | Zot3 | or raid combat? |
| 19:37.27 | Grum | raid combat, with a boss or trash |
| 19:37.36 | Grum | or do you always have lag in 25m? |
| 19:37.52 | SeanK | If you are an administrator on CurseForge, could you please approve my new addon "Sushi Sort"? |
| 19:38.11 | Zot3 | always in 25 man |
| 19:38.12 | Seerah | SeanK: I am not, but it will be approved once someone gets to it, I can assure you ;) |
| 19:38.44 | Grum | Zot3: so even if you are not fighting? |
| 19:38.54 | Xinhuan | what does it so SeanK |
| 19:38.58 | Xinhuan | do* |
| 19:39.00 | Zot3 | yes |
| 19:39.06 | Zot3 | even if i dont fighting |
| 19:39.15 | Shirik | pets Seerah |
| 19:39.18 | Grum | Zot3: mmm and when what sort of lag do you have? |
| 19:39.27 | Grum | is it where you cast and the animations or effects are late? |
| 19:39.32 | Seerah | curls up |
| 19:39.32 | Zot3 | spell is slow to be casted and the screen is moving slow |
| 19:39.56 | SeanK | So now for a completely different challenge. Does anyone know the best/easiest way to convert and/or edit a fraps video to post to YouTube? |
| 19:40.11 | kd3 | just upload it and let youtube do it? |
| 19:40.14 | Xinhuan | SeanK, just convert it to whatever format you want |
| 19:40.18 | Xinhuan | then upload it to youtube |
| 19:40.27 | Xinhuan | youtube reformats (re-encodes) it for streaming |
| 19:40.37 | Xinhuan | doesn't matter what format you upload it as |
| 19:40.45 | Grum | dont we have anyone from denmark here who can help Zot3 in his own language? :/ |
| 19:40.54 | Zot3 | :P! |
| 19:41.01 | haste | Fisker is danish! |
| 19:41.07 | Grum | Fisker |
| 19:41.12 | Zot3 | though so :P |
| 19:41.15 | cogwheel | now i want pastry |
| 19:41.28 | kd3 | but that entails inflicting fisker on him. what'd poor zot3 do to deserve that? |
| 19:41.33 | Grum | yes |
| 19:42.38 | Xinhuan | SeanK: approved, looks ok |
| 19:42.48 | SeanK | OK, more specific. I tried editing it in Movie Edit PRO and the video goes blank about 3 minutes into the movie. Movie Edit also fails to transcode it into any other format. Movie Maker can edit just fine but when I go to save it only encodes to a limit set of resolution, none of which match the resolution of the source video and so I end up with black bands on the top and bottom which YouTube says are bad. |
| 19:42.49 | Zot3 | :) |
| 19:42.58 | SeanK | Xinhuan: thanks |
| 19:43.15 | Xinhuan | is your program free or something? |
| 19:43.29 | Xinhuan | maybe it is "free" until you pay for it, and you only get the first X minutes encoded |
| 19:43.46 | Xinhuan | and likewise, you are limited to some resolutions? |
| 19:43.57 | SeanK | No, I paid for it, was only $59 tho so I guess I got what I paid for |
| 19:44.15 | Xinhuan | perhaps you can google and see if other ppl have the same problem |
| 19:44.53 | Grum | auch 60 for a useless thing :/ |
| 19:45.09 | SeanK | yeah did that, not much on fraps and converting it. maybe WMEncoder will just encode without the resampling |
| 19:45.30 | Zot3 | grum? |
| 19:45.47 | Zot3 | which resoulution would you preffer for an "19" widescreen? |
| 19:46.13 | Grum | the native one of the screen |
| 19:46.21 | Zot3 | ok |
| 19:46.26 | Zot3 | look: |
| 19:46.40 | Xinhuan | if you just want to reencode, you can look at VirtualDub |
| 19:46.41 | Xinhuan | its free |
| 19:46.44 | Xinhuan | and its good |
| 19:46.46 | Zot3 | in stormwind my fps is 57 |
| 19:46.51 | SeanK | will do |
| 19:46.55 | Zot3 | framerate 66 |
| 19:47.02 | Grum | seem ok? |
| 19:47.05 | kd3 | that's because stormwind is less complex than dalaran, and also has less people |
| 19:47.08 | Zot3 | latency 165 ms |
| 19:47.18 | Zot3 | now 206 ms |
| 19:47.18 | Xinhuan | 165? lol |
| 19:47.21 | Grum | 165, that is high |
| 19:47.26 | Xinhuan | i play at 400 all the time |
| 19:47.26 | Zot3 | hm |
| 19:47.29 | Xinhuan | unless i use lowerping |
| 19:47.33 | Xinhuan | then i get 220ms |
| 19:47.38 | Zot3 | let me go dalaran sec :P |
| 19:47.57 | Grum | you had ~26s ms in your speedtest: http://www.speedtest.net/result/875475537.png |
| 19:48.00 | Xinhuan | then again, i'm connecting across the world |
| 19:48.02 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 19:48.09 | Xinhuan | from GMT+8 to GMT-8 |
| 19:48.10 | Grum | so that should be *at most* 45-60ms ingame |
| 19:48.38 | Zot3 | is my ms low? |
| 19:48.50 | Grum | no, your ingame ping is higher than it should be |
| 19:49.01 | Xinhuan | its low to me only because i'm connecting acorss 16 hours of time zone :P |
| 19:49.02 | Grum | it should be 45-60 orso |
| 19:49.20 | Zot3 | my is 185 ms |
| 19:49.31 | Grum | it should be 45-60 orso |
| 19:49.37 | Seerah | I get 100-200ms even playing in the US |
| 19:49.55 | Seerah | it's currently sitting at 150 |
| 19:50.01 | Zot3 | me |
| 19:50.19 | Zot3 | addon memory 8,60 mb |
| 19:50.24 | Seerah | even 400ms is good for halfway around the world, Xinhuan :) |
| 19:50.31 | Seerah | and that's small |
| 19:50.40 | Grum | quite good indeed |
| 19:50.41 | Xinhuan | seerah, when i play i actually almost always use SSH ;p |
| 19:50.45 | Xinhuan | so i actually play at 220ms |
| 19:50.48 | Seerah | figure ;) |
| 19:50.56 | Grum | Xinhuan: ssh? you play through a tunnel? |
| 19:50.59 | Xinhuan | ya |
| 19:51.07 | Seerah | he's gotta |
| 19:51.09 | Xinhuan | its the only way to disable TCPAck shit |
| 19:51.23 | Xinhuan | without messing with my whole system |
| 19:51.33 | Grum | 'whole system' its one setting hehe |
| 19:51.54 | Xinhuan | well whatever but that one setting affects all my connections |
| 19:52.04 | Zot3 | grum? |
| 19:52.17 | Grum | does it actually affect it in a bad way xin? sofar i havent seen any problems using the 'latency hack' |
| 19:52.28 | Xinhuan | it kills torrents when near max speed |
| 19:52.29 | Grum | Zot3: complain at your ISP that your ingame wow ping is higher than it should be |
| 19:52.40 | Xinhuan | and guess what, torrents is what blizzard uses! |
| 19:52.46 | Zot3 | so it isn' |
| 19:52.50 | Zot3 | so it isn't my isp? |
| 19:52.56 | fiphi | Zot3: Yes, it is. |
| 19:52.57 | Grum | it probably is |
| 19:53.07 | Zot3 | my fps is to low ? |
| 19:53.12 | Grum | Xinhuan: humz it kills torrents? |
| 19:53.27 | Xinhuan | ya because you TCP Ack every packet instead of every 2 |
| 19:53.31 | Xinhuan | it kills your upstream |
| 19:53.33 | Zot3 | so grum i have to call my isp and get it chekced :P? |
| 19:53.37 | Grum | Zot3: from your description it is not clear what the problem is, you also said your fps is 20-30 in 25m, that is not low |
| 19:53.47 | Zot3 | wait |
| 19:53.52 | Zot3 | let me check fps in stormwind |
| 19:54.09 | Zot3 | what was the buttom for dps? |
| 19:54.12 | Zot3 | fps* forgot :P |
| 19:54.15 | Grum | ctrl-r |
| 19:54.43 | Zot3 | dosent work somehow omg |
| 19:54.47 | Grum | Xinhuan: how did you setup your wow to go through the tunnel? |
| 19:55.13 | Zot3 | grum any other way to check my fps? |
| 19:55.21 | Xinhuan | use a program that forces the exe to reroute through the tunnel (using a specified port) |
| 19:55.30 | Xinhuan | FreeCap is one such program that is free |
| 19:55.31 | kd3 | ctrl+r is the default framerate toggle. unless you've changed the keybind, that's what should work |
| 19:55.37 | Xinhuan | I use Proxifier, which isn't free |
| 19:55.40 | Grum | Xinhuan: hmm yeah used that once before |
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| 19:55.47 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.11 | Grum | Xinhuan: so you just let it connect to your local end of the tunnel, and what did you point your tunnel at? |
| 19:56.22 | Xinhuan | nowhere |
| 19:56.28 | Xinhuan | the connection is made THRU the tunnel |
| 19:56.32 | Grum | hmm so its not a tunnel, its a ssh-proxy? :) |
| 19:56.36 | Xinhuan | so wow just sees it as a standard connection |
| 19:56.42 | Xinhuan | sort of, yes |
| 19:56.51 | Xinhuan | but essentially, its a tunnel |
| 19:57.28 | Grum | curious why/how windows understands not to use TCPAck |
| 19:57.29 | Iriel | I have to use a tunnel to fire up the wow client from work |
| 19:57.41 | Iriel | I just add routing table entries for the wow servers |
| 19:58.05 | Xinhuan | yah, you can use SSH tunnels to bypass firewalls, provided the actual SSH connection isn't blocked |
| 19:58.15 | Grum | yeah was curious on how xin did it, with a tunnel i'd expect either route entries or multiple tunnels for both regular wow traffic and the loginservers |
| 19:58.31 | Xinhuan | nah i just route the wow.exe |
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| 19:58.38 | Xinhuan | so any traffic it uses goes thru it |
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| 19:59.07 | Zot3x | grum? |
| 20:00.08 | Zot3x | will wow run better if i had Core 2 Duo E8400 6 MB (Intel Boxed) instead of Intel(R) pentrium(R) 4 cpu 3.00ghz? |
| 20:00.23 | Fisker | biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiitches |
| 20:00.30 | Zot3x | fisker? |
| 20:00.37 | Zot3x | kan du hjælpe mig :P? |
| 20:00.59 | Fisker | nej. |
| 20:01.03 | Zot3x | hvorfor? |
| 20:01.27 | Fisker | netto |
| 20:01.28 | Fisker | derfor |
| 20:01.33 | Zot3x | lol |
| 20:02.27 | Stanzilla | I like how your language looks like a mix of broken german and english :p |
| 20:03.04 | Zot3x | hahaha :P |
| 20:03.17 | Fisker | both german and english is a mix of broken danish and danish |
| 20:04.01 | Xinhuan | Uruguay2:2Germany-Live update (74') |
| 20:04.10 | kd3 | ooh |
| 20:04.12 | Xinhuan | will the octopus be right? |
| 20:04.13 | kd3 | tabs open the TV |
| 20:04.50 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 20:04.52 | Fisker | beta me |
| 20:04.53 | Fisker | or beat me |
| 20:05.31 | Thunder_Child | beta beats Fisker |
| 20:06.14 | Fisker | i'm so tired Thunder_Child |
| 20:06.27 | Fisker | and i don't want to change out my motherboard already |
| 20:06.27 | Fisker | ;_; |
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| 20:11.01 | Fisker | ned bate nao |
| 20:11.07 | Xinhuan | 3-2 hehe |
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| 20:17.31 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/nokia/bananaPhone3.mp3 |
| 20:17.40 | mikma | my new ringtone xD |
| 20:19.49 | Eluna | Mine is the Pokemon Theme song. |
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| 20:20.03 | Eluna | I love it when someone calls me on the bus or something. |
| 20:20.31 | mikma | i love my new one, infinite loop! |
| 20:20.37 | kd3 | ooh. he hit the crossbar |
| 20:20.39 | kd3 | ouch |
| 20:20.46 | Xinhuan | that was so painful |
| 20:20.58 | Xinhuan | if that was an equalizer |
| 20:21.21 | Xinhuan | show the replay dammit! |
| 20:21.47 | fiphi | mikma: Too bad the looping isn't flawless. :/ |
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| 20:22.10 | Xinhuan | so, the octopus wins again! |
| 20:22.30 | mikma | fiphi: i know, but i'm not a pro editor after all |
| 20:22.32 | alestane | Did they ask it about the final match, even though Germany wasn't involved? |
| 20:22.33 | nevcairiel | wonder if he is right about tomorrow |
| 20:22.38 | Lunessa | in Vash'jir this is not octopus. |
| 20:22.38 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 20:22.41 | nevcairiel | yea, spain wins |
| 20:22.41 | fiphi | mikma: You cut that part out of something? |
| 20:22.43 | Xinhuan | paul predicted germany and spain |
| 20:22.47 | Xinhuan | for these 2 matches |
| 20:22.56 | mikma | fiphi: if you care to take a try, i can pop you the almost complete 128kbps mp3 |
| 20:23.08 | Xinhuan | if you youtube search |
| 20:23.13 | Xinhuan | you probably can find the prediction videos |
| 20:23.17 | fiphi | mikma: I can hear with a friend of mine who does audio work so sure, hand it over. :) |
| 20:23.17 | Lunessa | ~seen shadowed |
| 20:23.18 | purl | shadowed is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 183 messages. Is idling for 14h 55m 13s, last said: 'I think WoW is around 16GB for me, so ~22 is likely for CC'. |
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| 20:23.42 | Lunessa | Shadowed: Ignore my SUF crash report. Bad RAM stick |
| 20:24.00 | Jamash | bad ram! no biscuit! |
| 20:24.21 | mikma | fiphi: http://mikma.eu/misc/bananaPhone.mp3 |
| 20:24.37 | Fisker | no mikma |
| 20:24.41 | fiphi | hahaha, wtf. |
| 20:24.46 | fiphi | mikma: Why don't you want the intro? :D |
| 20:25.03 | mikma | fiphi: i just want the part i cut :D |
| 20:25.21 | fiphi | mikma: I'll ask my friend if he can take a look at it, send him both files so he knows what to work with. :P Can poke you afterwards. |
| 20:25.28 | fiphi | Now: Dharma & Greg. \o/ |
| 20:25.39 | mikma | fiphi: ok, cool. Futurama S06E04 <3 |
| 20:25.43 | fiphi | <3 |
| 20:25.49 | fiphi | Haven't seen the new ones yet. |
| 20:25.53 | fiphi | Are they <3? |
| 20:26.10 | mikma | yes, very |
| 20:26.13 | fiphi | Prr. |
| 20:26.15 | fiphi | Ahwell, afk a bit :) |
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| 20:29.49 | Fisker | futurama is so 3 weeks ago |
| 20:30.05 | Fisker | well more like 2 but still |
| 20:30.28 | cogwheel | it still makes me laugh |
| 20:30.33 | nevcairiel | latest ep is like a few hours old! |
| 20:30.40 | nevcairiel | well, a day i guess |
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| 20:37.39 | amro | Xinhuan: 'prediction' makes it sound like there are 20 possible outcomes for a game |
| 20:37.50 | Xinhuan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_the_Parakeet |
| 20:37.53 | Xinhuan | see this one then |
| 20:38.02 | Xinhuan | its in my country about 20 km away lol |
| 20:39.11 | Xinhuan | 5/6 correct predictions makes it 83.33% accurate so far, while Paul has 9/11 correct or 81.2% |
| 20:39.17 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 20:39.52 | Mirrormn | parakeets are not even close to as cool as octopi, though |
| 20:39.54 | amro | stop saying predictions :( |
| 20:40.56 | nevcairiel | what word would you prefer? |
| 20:41.24 | Xinhuan | foretelling? |
| 20:41.25 | amro | wins? it's like rolling dice |
| 20:41.36 | amro | there's no telling involved, so it's not foretelling |
| 20:41.50 | nevcairiel | just because a octopus cant talk! |
| 20:42.06 | nevcairiel | imho predictions works |
| 20:42.07 | amro | then they should make him spell out the winners from alphabet soup |
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| 20:43.43 | amro | I just don't see how eating can be considered a prediction |
| 20:44.10 | nevcairiel | eating? |
| 20:44.30 | nevcairiel | the octopus sits on the flag of the country that will win |
| 20:44.41 | amro | he eats a mussel out of acontainer with the flag on it |
| 20:44.57 | amro | if not for the mussel he'd never pick anything |
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| 20:47.57 | Cide | and that's why it's absolutely pure coincidence |
| 20:49.00 | amro | Cide |
| 20:49.03 | amro | fix my sc2 patcher |
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| 20:54.06 | Cide | what's the issue |
| 20:54.07 | Cide | ? |
| 20:55.00 | amro | it downloads fine for 3 minutes then stalls at 0.0 |
| 20:55.08 | amro | I have to kill BlizzardDownloader.exe and start again |
| 20:55.28 | Cide | launch it in admin mode? |
| 20:57.10 | amro | I'm on XP |
| 20:57.17 | amro | on an admin account |
| 20:58.37 | Shirik | did you turn on the "do not suck" option? |
| 20:58.58 | Thunder_Child | that option doesnt exist |
| 20:59.27 | Cide | ^ |
| 20:59.48 | Cide | actually that option is the "install windows 7" option |
| 21:01.10 | amro | why would I do that? |
| 21:01.19 | amro | for starters microsoft doesn't even publish it here |
| 21:04.39 | Cide | fail |
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| 21:05.34 | amro | regardless, sc2 works on wine |
| 21:05.50 | amro | I'm setting it up from windows cause I cba with patching and all atm |
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| 21:20.08 | Shirik | I broke something |
| 21:20.24 | Shirik | Calories for today so far: 20% from fat, 47% from carbs, 31% from protein |
| 21:20.39 | Shirik | I'm going to assume the other 2% are from photosynthesis or something |
| 21:21.04 | Cide | lol |
| 21:21.30 | Corrodias | it's that nutritious air |
| 21:21.39 | Jamash | food pils |
| 21:21.49 | Jamash | s/l/ll/ |
| 21:22.13 | Shirik | hah |
| 21:22.14 | Shirik | I figured it out |
| 21:22.15 | Corrodias | 20.4% + 47.4% + 31.4% ~~ 99.6%, rounds to 100% |
| 21:22.18 | Shirik | This program fails at rounding |
| 21:22.24 | Corrodias | waaait |
| 21:22.25 | Corrodias | 99.2 |
| 21:22.49 | Corrodias | that is just a bit too far... |
| 21:22.57 | Shirik | 20.54% from fat, 46.54% from carbs, 31.27% from protein |
| 21:23.01 | Shirik | the fat should have been rounded to 21% |
| 21:23.14 | Shirik | lua> 20.54 + 46.54 + 31.27 |
| 21:23.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: 98.35 |
| 21:23.17 | Shirik | wait a sec |
| 21:23.19 | Shirik | that still doesn't add up |
| 21:23.19 | Shirik | wtf |
| 21:23.58 | Shirik | lua> 113+ 256+172 |
| 21:23.58 | lua_bot | Shirik: 541 |
| 21:24.02 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:24.09 | Shirik | I've eaten 550 calories, not 541 |
| 21:24.11 | Shirik | where did the other 9 go |
| 21:24.11 | Cide | maybe the algorithm is terrible and uses lots of fp math |
| 21:24.35 | Shirik | it does have a ton of rounding errors everywhere |
| 21:24.36 | Shirik | actually |
| 21:24.55 | Corrodias | that is interesting |
| 21:25.27 | Corrodias | 10 calories here or there won't make a difference to your body, but it's still funny |
| 21:25.33 | Shirik | I know |
| 21:25.35 | Shirik | it's just like "wtf" |
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| 21:29.06 | amro | more proof that you're a robot Shirik |
| 21:29.22 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:29.48 | amro | you know exactly how many calories you consumed |
| 21:29.57 | amro | and you managed to make it a nice even number :P |
| 21:30.19 | Shirik | don't blame me blame manufacturers |
| 21:30.24 | Shirik | actually, that may be the cause tbh |
| 21:30.33 | Shirik | perhaps the manufacturers are rounding off the labels |
| 21:30.51 | Shirik | because everything I had is 180, 120, 250 |
| 21:31.10 | amro | oh |
| 21:31.17 | amro | I thought you meant YOUR manufacturers |
| 21:31.25 | Cide | me too |
| 21:31.26 | Shirik | .. |
| 21:31.28 | Cide | how does that mean that the percentages add up to <100% though |
| 21:31.33 | Shirik | because |
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| 21:32.22 | Shirik | for total calories eaten it takes the calories labels |
| 21:32.22 | Cide | ah |
| 21:32.22 | Shirik | but for calories from protein/fat/carbs it computes it based off the grams of protein/fat/carbs |
| 21:32.22 | Shirik | so if the label is wrong... |
| 21:32.37 | Shirik | that would explain why one way I got 541 total calories and the other is total 550 |
| 21:32.38 | Cide | yeah |
| 21:33.34 | amro | 541 seems more accurate |
| 21:34.01 | Cide | that's just because of human perception |
| 21:34.06 | Cide | 550 is as likely as 541 |
| 21:34.49 | amro | hence the "seems" |
| 21:35.01 | amro | but odds are manufacturers round the numbers to the nearest 10 |
| 21:35.15 | amro | [22:30] <Shirik> because everything I had is 180, 120, 250 |
| 21:35.57 | Cide | yep |
| 21:36.21 | Cide | gonna eat a bunch of 4 cal food and pretend it's zero |
| 21:36.42 | amro | 4 cal? is that like one skittle? |
| 21:36.50 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 21:36.57 | Shirik | actually one skittle probably is more than 4 calories |
| 21:37.01 | Shirik | it's pure sugar |
| 21:37.20 | Shirik | omg that's brilliant |
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| 21:37.32 | Shirik | we should look up the laws on whether or not this rounding is actually legal |
| 21:37.33 | Shirik | if it is |
| 21:37.37 | Shirik | we could sell "calorie free candy" |
| 21:37.41 | Shirik | make the serving size like 1 skittle |
| 21:37.57 | Cide | that'd be funny |
| 21:37.59 | SeanK | serving sizes is where you'll get caught |
| 21:38.27 | amro | I think you have to mention the calorie count for the whole pack |
| 21:38.30 | SeanK | used to be you could say a can of coke was 2.5 servings so you could lower the calorie per serving info but they changed that |
| 21:38.47 | Shirik | I thought the serving size was up to the manufacturer |
| 21:38.59 | Shirik | and then you just have to say "servings per container" |
| 21:39.03 | SeanK | so unless you sell skittle in individually packeages you'll be in trouble |
| 21:40.27 | SeanK | no, the regulation on serving sizes as based on average serving, the manufacturers don't get to make it up anymore |
| 21:40.32 | Corrodias | come to think of it, i don't recall seeing one of those ".5" serving counts any more |
| 21:40.50 | Dagmar | There's still room for flex in that |
| 21:41.10 | Dagmar | Rather obviously Ben & Jerry's buckets are one average sized serving |
| 21:41.19 | Corrodias | just be aware that most snacks come in 28-30g servings, and keep an eye out for anything that differs |
| 21:41.47 | Shirik | aha |
| 21:41.53 | SeanK | It changed about 10 years ago, right around when my son was diagnosed with diabetes and we were paying extra attention to the nutritional information. |
| 21:41.56 | Shirik | Serving sizes, also known as "reference amounts customarily consumed," were taken from surveys of the average American's eating habits in the 1970s and 1980s. However, these serving sizes don't seem to match up with the way Americans eat today. Maybe they never did â since people notoriously underreport what they've eaten when given food surveys. |
| 21:41.59 | Corrodias | these donuts i have sound pretty bad until you see that they're based on a significantly larger serving size |
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| 21:50.38 | Thunder_Child | but they are still fried sweet bread with more sweet stuff on them |
| 21:52.55 | Thunder_Child | anyone know if sfc can be done from recovery mode of an install disk? |
| 21:53.29 | nevcairiel | you should seriously talk less and eat more |
| 21:54.02 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: me? |
| 21:54.28 | nevcairiel | all of you talking about silly calories! |
| 21:54.39 | Thunder_Child | i eat enough as it is :( |
| 22:00.49 | Dagmar | SFC? |
| 22:01.59 | Dagmar | Probably |
| 22:02.21 | Dagmar | If you're at that point tho you probably might as well just reinstall |
| 22:11.08 | malreth | http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/101/4/7/Catch_It_by_Khalitzburg.gif |
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| 22:25.19 | Kirkburn | Is there a beta Mekkatorque server UI guild? |
| 22:25.24 | Kirkburn | Also, hello |
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| 22:30.13 | Cide | are you up for some sc2 shirik?! |
| 22:30.13 | Kirkburn | I believe there's a UI guild on Lost Isles? |
| 22:30.46 | Cide | no clue Kirkburn, sorry |
| 22:31.44 | Kirkburn | alrighty ... (general request: if someone comes on from the/a beta UI guild, I wants invite :P ) |
| 22:31.51 | A-KO | I'm on Gilneas |
| 22:31.52 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: considering addons are disabled on the beta currently, there's aren't much UI activity going on just yet |
| 22:31.52 | A-KO | :P |
| 22:32.02 | Kirkburn | I just want a guild :) |
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| 22:33.14 | foxlit | Join <Zomg we want guild perks> |
| 22:34.25 | Kirkburn | I have no idea if that's a joke :P |
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| 22:34.45 | Kirkburn | But zomg, I want guild perks |
| 22:34.58 | SeanK | I heard that talents were cut |
| 22:35.17 | Kirkburn | guild talent trees, yeah |
| 22:35.20 | Kirkburn | not the actual perks though |
| 22:35.21 | Maldivia | I know there are a few UI people on lost isles, but don't know if there's a specific guild (seen them in multiple) |
| 22:35.31 | Kirkburn | they get unlocked in a single chain now |
| 22:35.34 | Maldivia | Kirkburn: there are no guild talents |
| 22:35.53 | Maldivia | nvm :P |
| 22:35.59 | Kirkburn | :) |
| 22:36.14 | Dashkal | Much better system. I did _not_ want to deal with guild drama. OMG YOU PICKED THE WRONG TALENT NOOB! |
| 22:36.23 | Kirkburn | heh |
| 22:36.28 | Kirkburn | yeah, v true |
| 22:36.28 | SeanK | ok, so everyone get everything. Like grinding rep only with guild pressure? |
| 22:36.37 | amro | there's one on lost isles |
| 22:36.40 | Dashkal | Actually, there'll be a rep grind as well. |
| 22:36.46 | Dashkal | Passive perks you get no matter what |
| 22:36.55 | Maldivia | how much "xp" a guild can get is capped |
| 22:37.07 | Dashkal | Some perks give you stuff. For that you grind a guild reputation, but those bonuses you keep no matter what. |
| 22:37.10 | Maldivia | so a 200 man guild is no better of than a 20 man guild |
| 22:37.23 | amro | Kirkburn: <Secure Hookers> |
| 22:37.32 | SeanK | Oh, size doesn't matter? |
| 22:37.35 | Dashkal | Mostly to avoid guild hopping to load up on crap |
| 22:37.42 | Maldivia | SeanK: In this respect, no :P |
| 22:37.49 | Kirkburn | amro, switching char there now, will /who to check for people |
| 22:38.02 | Kirkburn | thanks |
| 22:38.17 | Maldivia | amro: the other guild was dropped ? |
| 22:38.46 | Kirkburn | Well, a guild of 1 person isn't going to do well, but beyod a certain point it won't help much to have more people |
| 22:39.17 | amro | I dunno I'm not on it |
| 22:39.20 | SeanK | rats I was hoping for special perks for banker guilds |
| 22:39.22 | amro | I just heard about it |
| 22:39.23 | Maldivia | think they said only the top 10 contributers from a guild counted |
| 22:39.26 | amro | I'm too lazy for beta |
| 22:39.29 | Kirkburn | :O |
| 22:39.35 | Kirkburn | Bah, no-one from secure hookers online atm |
| 22:39.56 | amro | at this hour, they're probably busy hooking |
| 22:40.00 | foxlit | Perhaps they're... insecure. |
| 22:40.11 | Kirkburn | ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 22:40.16 | Kirkburn | >_> |
| 22:40.34 | cbreak | be careful with taint |
| 22:40.38 | Kirkburn | The premade characters they supply are soooo overpowered :( |
| 22:40.53 | amro | Cide: is there a way to get more details from the sc2 updater like with the wow updater? |
| 22:41.18 | Kirkburn | I mean, I gemmed and enchanted mine when I got it ... cause, y'know, the items were there to be used ...... but I would've preferred a more "normal" character |
| 22:42.18 | Maldivia | they are not overpowered at all |
| 22:42.31 | Maldivia | the greens you get from hyjal are better |
| 22:42.55 | Kirkburn | S'pose I should get questing |
| 22:44.05 | foxlit | http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/videogames/detail-page/B002I0JMB8-1-lg.jpg |
| 22:44.25 | foxlit | Kind of miss the pretty, sparkly graphics of those initial shots. |
| 22:44.26 | Kirkburn | pewpew? |
| 22:44.43 | Cide- | it looks pretty much the same? |
| 22:45.47 | foxlit | Think current builds tone down the sparkliness a bit. |
| 22:46.05 | Cide | maybe |
| 22:48.10 | Cide | amro, no idea |
| 22:48.27 | amro | No problems detected. (0.0KB/s) |
| 22:48.45 | Cide | should try and extract the torrent file |
| 22:49.24 | amro | hm |
| 22:49.31 | amro | it looks like they're extracted already in the installation dir |
| 22:49.36 | amro | I'll try with a torrent client |
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| 22:58.19 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 22:58.25 | Shirik | whose customer service is this |
| 22:58.27 | Shirik | got an unblock request |
| 22:58.48 | Shirik | Hi Kimachi, |
| 22:58.49 | Shirik | > |
| 22:58.49 | Shirik | >The company's info "SoftTouchLenses" has been deleted on the ground of advertisement despite providing reliable sources. We apologize for mistakes we have done but it was not intentional. I would appreciate if you please restore company's information so that we'll work on and improve the content. |
| 22:59.00 | Shirik | after we declined with some info, it turned into (from the same email address) |
| 22:59.10 | Shirik | Hello sir , |
| 22:59.11 | Shirik | So wht can be done to unblok our a/c . i promise that this kind of mistake |
| 22:59.11 | Shirik | want happen as i was not aware abt wikimedia.psl its an request that pls |
| 22:59.11 | Shirik | unblock the a/c. |
| 22:59.46 | Cide | serious company is serious |
| 23:00.52 | amro | it's a hot summer Shirik, stop being a meanie and unblock their a/c! |
| 23:00.58 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:02.09 | ScytheBlade1 | So ever since I got this new (glass) desk |
| 23:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Every so often when I move the mouse around a white page |
| 23:02.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I freak out |
| 23:02.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I think there is some random bug crawling along my desk |
| 23:02.34 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:02.38 | Shirik | what is it |
| 23:02.40 | ScytheBlade1 | (just the reflection >_>) |
| 23:02.43 | Shirik | haha |
| 23:02.46 | Cide | the mouse cursor reflected |
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| 23:02.58 | Cide | I actually scared myself with the mouse cursor once |
| 23:03.21 | Cide | didn't know my hand was on the mouse so when I moved it the mouse jumped on the screen |
| 23:03.25 | Cide | scared the hell out of me |
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| 23:08.05 | Shirik | hey cool |
| 23:08.06 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 23:08.10 | Shirik | is this at the end of all military emails? |
| 23:08.17 | Shirik | Classification: UNCLASSIFIED |
| 23:08.18 | Shirik | Caveats: NONE |
| 23:08.25 | Cide | haha |
| 23:08.29 | Cide | only if it's unclassified |
| 23:08.32 | Cide | otherwise it says CLASSIFIED |
| 23:08.36 | Cide | Caveats: DEATH |
| 23:08.44 | Dagmar | nope. |
| 23:08.50 | Funkeh` | jnwhiteh, your xmlbrowser still has the old pre-ptr lua modules listed. You have to click the "view latest version" to get to the /test/ directory where the latest copies are. Clicking the actual text such as FrameXML/GlobalString.lua will take you to the /live/ directory which is pre-3.3.5 |
| 23:09.08 | Shirik | I don't think there is any such thing as "classified" |
| 23:09.19 | Shirik | only top secret/secret/restricted/confidential |
| 23:09.21 | Cide | if there is unclassified there must be classified |
| 23:09.24 | Dagmar | Shirik: You're just not likely to see ones that are classified unless something goes wrong |
| 23:09.44 | Dagmar | There's compartmentalization. |
| 23:10.03 | Cide | shirik: but it appears there's no "classified" classification level |
| 23:10.05 | Dagmar | Documents can be classified with no qualifier, meaning you're not cleared to know anything otehr than it's classified |
| 23:11.03 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 23:11.10 | Shirik | I only operate with one type of document |
| 23:11.16 | Shirik | "Propietary and competition sensitive" |
| 23:11.29 | Shirik | and I am required to act like every single thing I touch is not suitable for foreign nationals |
| 23:11.39 | Dagmar | Text in the bottom of the email... not something likely to happen to serious documents |
| 23:11.59 | Dagmar | Sounds like secret documents to me, man |
| 23:12.14 | amro | iirc, the levels are unclassified, restricted, secret, and top secret |
| 23:12.22 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 23:12.22 | Dagmar | THink of like an NDA they can enforce with bullets. |
| 23:12.23 | Shirik | ironic |
| 23:12.24 | Cide | iirc it's on wikipedia |
| 23:12.36 | Shirik | google "proprietary and competition sensitive" |
| 23:12.47 | Shirik | the first thing on google is something from my company ._. |
| 23:13.04 | Cide | fail |
| 23:13.13 | Dagmar | dau.mil? |
| 23:13.15 | Shirik | oh beautiful |
| 23:13.19 | Shirik | it also has the ITAR/EAR notice on it |
| 23:13.26 | amro | www.Changemakers.net Enter Your Idea For World Change For Our Global Competition Here! |
| 23:13.30 | amro | that's your company? :P |
| 23:13.43 | Shirik | uh |
| 23:13.43 | Shirik | no |
| 23:13.51 | Shirik | don't use quotes |
| 23:13.57 | amro | I didn't |
| 23:13.58 | Dagmar | Remember, Google can and will give differnt results to different regions |
| 23:14.10 | amro | I use google US |
| 23:14.11 | Shirik | this is what I got: http://www.wtb.wa.gov/Documents/INSITU.pdf |
| 23:14.11 | Dagmar | The first link I see here is "AKSS - Ask A Professor - How is Company Competition Sensitive Data ..." |
| 23:14.22 | Dagmar | Shirik: THta's the second link I see |
| 23:14.24 | Cide | shirik: google be sniffing your history |
| 23:14.27 | amro | that's the fourth link here |
| 23:14.35 | Cide | fifth here |
| 23:14.37 | Dagmar | Plus there's at least two other leaks from other places furhter down the page |
| 23:15.26 | Shirik | I'm not sure if it's a leak or not |
| 23:15.45 | Shirik | the information doesn't seem very "competition sensitive" to me |
| 23:15.55 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/troll-troll-troll-your-boat.png |
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| 23:17.59 | Dagmar | Looks like there'll be one less SCII beta tester |
| 23:18.08 | ScytheBlade1 | I kinda hope so |
| 23:19.10 | Cide | we require more mineraaaaaaals |
| 23:19.32 | Dashkal | I still hear that in the zerg voice... |
| 23:20.13 | Cide | MINERAAAAAALLLSSZZSSSZSS |
| 23:20.13 | foxlit | additional pylons. |
| 23:20.14 | Shirik | you must construct additional pylons |
| 23:20.17 | foxlit | PYLONS. |
| 23:20.22 | foxlit | MORE PYLONS. |
| 23:20.22 | Cide | shirik is a corporate spy |
| 23:20.26 | Cide | he's really a terran player |
| 23:20.27 | Dashkal | We require more vespene gas |
| 23:20.29 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:20.40 | amro | never ask for more gas |
| 23:20.40 | Cide | but not so much anything now because he won't play with me :( |
| 23:20.49 | Shirik | I'm busy! |
| 23:20.49 | Dashkal | I haven't played SC1 in years... |
| 23:20.59 | amro | it's because you have cooties Cide |
| 23:21.14 | Cide | <Shirik> we could sell "calorie free candy" |
| 23:21.14 | Cide | <Shirik> make the serving size like 1 skittle |
| 23:21.16 | Cide | you sound superbusy! |
| 23:21.26 | Cide | <Shirik> I've eaten 550 calories, not 541 |
| 23:21.53 | Cide | amro, I do |
| 23:22.20 | Cide | but the calorie free candy was an excellent idea tbh |
| 23:23.14 | amro | I don't know, nowadays it seems like calories are a unit for measuring delicousness |
| 23:23.23 | Cide | it's true |
| 23:23.37 | Cide | but if you make it really tiny then 4 cal can be lots and lots |
| 23:23.55 | Cide | the serving size just has to be microscopic |
| 23:24.12 | amro | hm, that could work |
| 23:26.51 | Shirik | Serving size: 1/2 skittle |
| 23:28.14 | amro | half skittles are illegal |
| 23:28.20 | amro | I'm sure they're covered by anti-torture laws |
| 23:30.26 | Shirik | curious |
| 23:30.28 | Shirik | Which is probably why, a couple of years back, Rock admits he told his record company that he would not make a stand against illegal downloads. In fact, he says that he told them they had been stealing from artists for years so he told fans "download it illegally, I don't care. I want you to hear my music so I can play live." |
| 23:31.05 | Cide | good |
| 23:31.14 | Cide | we need more artists like iron maiden and radiohead |
| 23:31.38 | Corrodias | radiohead? :< |
| 23:31.42 | Corrodias | eeeeeeeeew |
| 23:32.00 | Cide | or weird al |
| 23:32.27 | Cide | Corrodias, I was talking about their attitude to downloading |
| 23:32.31 | Corrodias | ah |
| 23:32.31 | Cide | not their music |
| 23:32.35 | Dagmar | ...because groupies only come backstage at shows. |
| 23:32.48 | Dagmar | THe ones that show up at your house are called "escorts" |
| 23:33.06 | Corrodias | oh good. i've heard a couple of their songs and i'm pretty sure -they- should be banned under the geneva convention |
| 23:33.14 | Corrodias | maybe they were just the worst songs they made. |
| 23:33.22 | Cide | time for algorithm design |
| 23:33.36 | Cide | so I have an sc2 replay |
| 23:33.45 | Cide | it has a bunch of players on arbitrary teams |
| 23:34.01 | Cide | now I need to display the players in two columns |
| 23:34.11 | Shirik | ??????????????????????/ |
| 23:34.14 | Shirik | Anyone here use itunes? |
| 23:34.23 | Cide | you ruin the mood shirik! |
| 23:34.37 | Cide | for 1v1/2v2/3v3/4v4 it's trivial, just one team per column |
| 23:35.05 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: yes |
| 23:35.13 | Cide | for other, arbitrary team setups the teams should ideally be on the same column, but each column cannot be longer than 4 players |
| 23:35.18 | Cide | go |
| 23:35.59 | Shirik | wtf is this http://images.gammatester.com/pics/4073b0afd7e565687c281304d697b1ea.png |
| 23:36.09 | Shirik | is that trying to claim that I already purchased the songs? |
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| 23:36.37 | Cide | apparently? |
| 23:36.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik's account has been hacked and used to purchase country music |
| 23:36.46 | Cide | and the price is reduced because you already have two of the songs |
| 23:36.52 | Shirik | but I don't have them |
| 23:36.59 | Cide | so purchase it |
| 23:37.05 | Cide | $1.98 off |
| 23:37.22 | Corrodias | but he might not get access to them :< |
| 23:37.29 | Corrodias | unless you already DO have access? |
| 23:37.39 | Corrodias | maybe you got free music because you're so bitchin' phat. |
| 23:37.41 | Shirik | how would I check to see if I have access? |
| 23:37.53 | Cide | click Purchased? |
| 23:37.55 | Cide | on the left |
| 23:38.06 | Shirik | yeah it's not in there |
| 23:38.07 | Corrodias | i have no idea, i'm not an itunes guy |
| 23:38.09 | Shirik | I checked that already |
| 23:38.25 | Cide | restart itunes imo |
| 23:38.36 | Shirik | ?? |
| 23:38.39 | Shirik | I just started it |
| 23:38.42 | Shirik | no way that's going to help |
| 23:38.49 | Shirik | I haven't even DONE anything with it |
| 23:38.50 | Cide | maybe the cache is bugged |
| 23:38.56 | Cide | maybe you're bugged |
| 23:39.00 | Corrodias | yeah, who knows how this shit works. |
| 23:39.05 | Cide | it's apple |
| 23:39.08 | Cide | it's like a black box |
| 23:39.12 | Cide | of destruction and hatred |
| 23:39.20 | Shirik | I thought everything apple made was in white boxes |
| 23:39.27 | Cide | that's just the outer coating |
| 23:39.34 | Cide | underneat it's all black and emo |
| 23:42.39 | Shirik | I can't even add it to my wish list |
| 23:43.03 | Cide | anyway |
| 23:43.09 | Cide | if you haven't purchased it and you don't want it |
| 23:43.11 | Shirik | "You have already purchased this item. If you can't find it in your iTunes library, make sure it's been downloaded by selecting Check for Available Downloads from the Store menu" |
| 23:43.25 | Shirik | store->check for available downloads |
| 23:43.38 | Shirik | "All purchases have been downloaded for this account." |
| 23:43.44 | Shirik | WHY DO YOU LIE TO ME |
| 23:44.05 | Cide | I thought that was apple's business model |
| 23:44.37 | Cide | if 4 > len(col1) <= len(col2): |
| 23:44.40 | Cide | python makes me happy |
| 23:45.03 | Shirik | and this can't be done in any other language because? |
| 23:45.14 | Shirik | I don't actually know what you're doing |
| 23:45.32 | Cide | it usually requires an another expression |
| 23:45.54 | Cide | if len(col1) <= len(col2) && len(col1) < 4 |
| 23:46.01 | Dagmar | Amazing. |
| 23:46.05 | Cide | I know. |
| 23:46.13 | Dagmar | TZhey don't let you re-download the stuff you purchased, later on? |
| 23:46.40 | Shirik | they don't even let you re-buy it |
| 23:46.41 | Shirik | like |
| 23:46.46 | Shirik | it is literally impossible for me to get that song |
| 23:48.28 | Dagmar | TIme to call CS |
| 23:49.09 | Shirik | I don't want to call apple |
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| 23:59.41 | Cairenn | tekkub: http://www.cakespy.com/blog/2009/12/25/pork-roll-bacon-cinnamon-rolls-by-rainy-day-gal.html |
