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| 00:16.45 | Jerub | ugh. i need to go create a google account for my wow persona. |
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| 00:24.19 | Thunder_Child | you 'need' to? |
| 00:25.31 | Gnarfoz | I think that's what he said! :D |
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| 00:27.16 | AbsolutRayne | I need some Tech Support, if anyone is savvy. I haven't recieved a reply from Blizzard in about a week or so. |
| 00:27.37 | Cide | ~asktoask |
| 00:27.38 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 00:27.51 | Cide | in my case I'm around but not glad to help |
| 00:27.52 | Thunder_Child | i do so love stuff like "He was going nice and slow, then he yelled " BOONNEESTOORRMM!!!!!". I can't walk straight." |
| 00:27.56 | AbsolutRayne | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25559736201&sid=1&pageNo=2#30 Latest Tracert, what do you guys make from it? |
| 00:27.56 | Thunder_Child | err...damit |
| 00:27.58 | Cide | but you can try your luck with other people |
| 00:28.17 | Cide | Thunder_Child: that's awesome |
| 00:28.22 | Cide | especially if the girl plays wow |
| 00:28.28 | foxlit | cogent sucks. |
| 00:28.43 | Thunder_Child | thats not what i meant to paste |
| 00:30.09 | kd3 | tc; lmfao |
| 00:30.39 | Cide | Thunder_Child: sure. |
| 00:31.44 | Gnarfoz | AbsolutRayne: unbaffling: chat is not running on the same server as the worldserver. ;p |
| 00:33.33 | AbsolutRayne | I just want to play WoW. Im so tired of this crap. |
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| 00:37.13 | amro | AbsolutRayne: switch ISP? |
| 00:37.16 | Gnarfoz | I'd make sure TCP checksum offloading is turned off, chimney offloading is off; and at least for diagnostics, turn off RSS (receive side scaling) and |
| 00:37.21 | AbsolutRayne | amro: I cant |
| 00:37.44 | amro | I get the same thing with my ISP from time to time |
| 00:38.04 | Gnarfoz | doubtful it's his ISP when chat keeps working. |
| 00:38.17 | amro | sure, it could be |
| 00:38.25 | amro | sometimes, I can't reach certain IPs at all |
| 00:38.28 | amro | while everything else works fine |
| 00:38.48 | Gnarfoz | yeah, but those IPs are probably not in the same network |
| 00:39.35 | Gnarfoz | netsh interface tcp chimney=disabled rss=disabled |
| 00:39.40 | Gnarfoz | (as admin) |
| 00:40.32 | Gnarfoz | checksum offloading is usually in the advanced properties of the actual network card device in device manager |
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| 00:41.16 | AbsolutRayne | You said just disable it? |
| 00:41.23 | AbsolutRayne | Sorry im explaining this to teh wife |
| 00:41.49 | AbsolutRayne | Also also, Happy Canada Day, Canadians |
| 00:42.02 | CodeRedLin | Have you tried turning off all mods? Flooding leads to what you are talking about too. At least I use to have that problem. |
| 00:42.13 | AbsolutRayne | Happens with or without addons |
| 00:42.34 | AbsolutRayne | Also happens after clearing cache. Even tried the Repair Tool |
| 00:43.08 | Gnarfoz | sounds more like a regular network issue than anything wow specific. |
| 00:43.22 | Gnarfoz | someone's dropping packets^^ |
| 00:43.43 | AbsolutRayne | Every packet loss test I run comes back with nothing lost |
| 00:44.15 | Gnarfoz | it's not like you can run one against the relevant servers |
| 00:44.27 | Gnarfoz | because those don't reply to pings. :( |
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| 00:44.57 | AbsolutRayne_ | Oops, wrong button. Sorry! |
| 00:45.10 | Jerub | sigh. i think i'm going to have to write sotware. |
| 00:45.13 | Jerub | er software. |
| 00:45.20 | Jerub | does anyone have a queryable database of all the wow gear? |
| 00:45.34 | Jerub | i mean, apart from hitting checkboxes on wowhead or similar. |
| 00:45.35 | Wobin | Jerub: aren't you overthinking this a bit? |
| 00:45.58 | Jerub | Wobin: i have 8+ hours a day where i'm waiting for system tests to run and i can't play wow |
| 00:46.02 | Jerub | :P |
| 00:46.03 | Wobin | oh |
| 00:46.06 | Wobin | in that case |
| 00:46.08 | Wobin | code away |
| 00:46.19 | Wobin | (and get a laptop) |
| 00:46.28 | Jerub | i have a laptop |
| 00:46.32 | Jerub | ... with linux and intel graphics |
| 00:47.19 | Gnarfoz | anyhow, try turning those "features" off, they can impact network performance dramatically (interestingly enough, depending on your hardware. turning off checksum offloading means that instead of relying on the validity of checksums done by your NIC, the CPU checks them itself.) |
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| 00:48.25 | AbsolutRayne | Ah, there we go |
| 00:48.41 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: hey, i'm uh, a networky person. let me just read up on what you said |
| 00:48.55 | Gnarfoz | no thanks |
| 00:49.01 | Jerub | oh, it was AbsolutRayne_ that needed help. |
| 00:49.03 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 00:49.09 | AbsolutRayne | Yeah |
| 00:49.13 | AbsolutRayne | My going bananas |
| 00:49.17 | AbsolutRayne | and other various fruits |
| 00:49.36 | AbsolutRayne | Checksum seems to be helping a bit though |
| 00:50.36 | Gnarfoz | ahhhh 02:49 |
| 00:50.52 | Gnarfoz | T_T sleep tiems |
| 00:50.54 | AbsolutRayne | Whats really neat |
| 00:51.31 | AbsolutRayne | Is that when I catch up from the desyncs (If it doesnt totally just kick me offline) is that I cant reload my UI or anything. I have to log out and in to do that adain. |
| 00:51.35 | AbsolutRayne | again* |
| 00:52.28 | Jerub | AbsolutRayne: your wife hasn't experienced these problems? |
| 00:52.36 | AbsolutRayne | Shes experiencing them as well |
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| 00:53.03 | Jerub | checksum offloading will have absolutely no effect on this. |
| 00:54.20 | Jerub | AbsolutRayne: i really am a network person. the best possible diagnostic you can do for this is to install wireshark and dump all your computers traffic during one of these events (you need to catch the start of the event) and then pass it over to someone to analyse. |
| 00:54.24 | AbsolutRayne | I thank you guys for actually helping me, I just wish Blizzard would friggin answer me. Its been over a week since any type of reply, with me bumping it daily. |
| 00:54.30 | Jerub | your traceroutes are irrelvent, they're showing stable low pings. |
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| 00:54.43 | Jerub | okay, if it's her as well, then i'm guessing its your router. |
| 00:55.01 | Jerub | are you running any kind of p2p software, including skype? |
| 00:55.12 | AbsolutRayne | At this moment? No |
| 00:55.26 | AbsolutRayne | Windows Live Messenger is the only thing I have on atm |
| 00:55.31 | AbsolutRayne | Same for her |
| 00:55.33 | Jerub | something you can do that will remote the router as a point of failure is to use a vpn. |
| 00:56.15 | Jerub | to explain further in depth, your router has a little lookup table of (local computer:port) (remote computer:port) for every connection |
| 00:56.25 | Guest99563 | wtf is this |
| 00:56.29 | Guest99563 | in UPS tracking info: |
| 00:56.30 | Guest99563 | THE DALLES, OR, US07/01/20109:44 A.M.TENDERED TO LOCAL POST OFFICE |
| 00:56.45 | Jerub | if one of your connections (the wow gamestate) gets dropped, but the realid one doesn't, that could explain what you're seeing |
| 00:56.51 | AbsolutRayne | You wernt home when they were there, its at your post offive. |
| 00:57.04 | AbsolutRayne | c |
| 00:57.22 | Shirik | since when do they give it to post office o.o |
| 00:57.36 | AbsolutRayne | Some places will if its not something you have to sign for |
| 00:57.45 | AbsolutRayne | Did they leave you a failed delivery notice? |
| 00:58.02 | AbsolutRayne | Jerub: But why would it randomly drop just WoW? Too much incoming traffic? |
| 00:58.05 | Gnarfoz | <Jerub> checksum offloading will have absolutely no effect on this. <-- wrong. |
| 00:58.32 | Shirik | no |
| 00:58.35 | AbsolutRayne | Hmmm |
| 00:58.45 | Gnarfoz | (of course that depends on what "this" is, if it doesn't fix his actual problem, then it's obviously useless in this case.) |
| 00:59.09 | Jerub | AbsolutRayne: usually what happens is that the router gets overloaded with connections and one of the older ones gets turfed. |
| 00:59.11 | Gnarfoz | but since nobody knows what the problem is... might as well try every possible thing |
| 00:59.31 | AbsolutRayne | Shirik: Give UPS a call if you can. They can probably tell you exactly whats up. But seeing that leads me to believe you wernt home, the package is small, so they left it there for you to pick up. |
| 00:59.32 | Jerub | it's happening on more than 1 machine on your network, which points to the router. |
| 00:59.53 | AbsolutRayne | Jerub: Ok, thats a little more clear to me. :P |
| 01:00.06 | AbsolutRayne | (not being sarcastic) |
| 01:00.21 | Gnarfoz | if it is his conntrack table running full, how would tunneling through a vpn help; that could get dropped just as well? |
| 01:00.34 | Jerub | AbsolutRayne: if you have a vpn set up, it's a single connection out of your network, and the router will drop the entire thng and yo'ull notice it immediately. |
| 01:00.43 | Gnarfoz | ah, well. ^^ |
| 01:01.14 | AbsolutRayne | Ill have to give that a try tomorrow |
| 01:01.31 | AbsolutRayne | I also might try using my other Router |
| 01:03.20 | Jerub | on the other hand, if you have the same mode of failure, chat working while the rest of it doing the running in place thing, you'll be able to eliminate both your ISP and your router as points of failure. |
| 01:04.16 | Gnarfoz | to expand on why I suggested checksum offloading: if checksumming is offloaded to the NIC, then packets will be transferred further (inside your computer, from the NIC to the CPU) on electrical lines that are, as all of them are, subject to interference, crosstalk and outside influence. but since checksumming is done at the NIC, possible corruption would not be noticed CPU side, resulting in garbled packets. forcing the CPU to do checksummin |
| 01:04.22 | Gnarfoz | g = if something got fucked up on the way to the CPU, it will know, and discard it. |
| 01:04.54 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: the reason i said that won't help is because tcp/ip will just cause retransmits. |
| 01:05.07 | kd3 | image overload: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Cata_maps_compared |
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| 01:05.10 | Gnarfoz | Jerub: you miss the point |
| 01:05.28 | Gnarfoz | Jerub: it will do retransmits if the CPU knows the packets are garbled |
| 01:05.40 | Jerub | no, it will do retransmits if the acks don't come back. |
| 01:05.41 | Gnarfoz | if they are damaged AFTER checksumming, then it won't |
| 01:05.47 | Gnarfoz | ACKs have nothing to do with this. |
| 01:05.53 | Jerub | sure they do. :) |
| 01:05.54 | Gnarfoz | no. |
| 01:07.05 | Gnarfoz | the packets get acknowledged as usual, because the CPU "takes the word for it" from the NIC that the checksums were correct when the NIC received it |
| 01:07.34 | Gnarfoz | payload might have been mangled on the way from NIC -> CPU though |
| 01:08.23 | Shirik | AbsolutRayne: apparently it means USPS is going to deliver it to me |
| 01:08.28 | Shirik | for the "last mile" delivery |
| 01:08.31 | Gnarfoz | anyway, as I said before, this of course only helps if indeed you have this problem. ;-) |
| 01:08.48 | Gnarfoz | (which there is no real way to check for) |
| 01:11.37 | Kraps | is this thing on? |
| 01:11.44 | Shirik | no |
| 01:12.06 | Kraps | dangit |
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| 01:14.29 | cogwheel | hmm.... zarhym posted right after i posted a link to McRun... |
| 01:14.37 | cogwheel | should keep an eye on his website bandwidth |
| 01:14.47 | Kraps | trololol toy story 3 has 3 negative reviews on rotten tomatoes |
| 01:15.14 | AbsolutRayne | Shirik: Ah ok :) |
| 01:15.52 | AbsolutRayne | Gnarfoz Jerub: Thank you both as well :) |
| 01:19.43 | Shirik | anyone know of a name demangler that works with Microsoft's conventions? |
| 01:19.44 | Shirik | cogwheel ^ |
| 01:21.04 | cogwheel | letmestackoverflowthatforyou.com |
| 01:21.07 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 01:21.09 | cogwheel | >.> |
| 01:21.45 | cogwheel | This is actually a rather uneasy juxtaposition... |
| 01:21.53 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626576491&pageNo=1&sid=2000#4 |
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| 01:23.01 | cogwheel | his post is to justify the thing that my post ostensibly subverts :> |
| 01:23.31 | cogwheel | hopefully i added enough disclaimers and motivations |
| 01:24.32 | cogwheel | Shirik: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/491115/where-is-documentation-on-the-microsoft-visual-studio-c-name-mangling-scheme |
| 01:24.47 | cogwheel | or more to the point: http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=visual+studio+name+mangling+parser |
| 01:24.47 | Shirik | I don't want documentation |
| 01:24.51 | Shirik | I want something to do it for me :( |
| 01:24.52 | Shirik | yay |
| 01:25.02 | Shirik | it's way too long for me to do it by hand lol |
| 01:25.12 | Shirik | it reminds me of some boost template errors I got once |
| 01:25.55 | amro | I like how clicking on "C++" reveals a C API |
| 01:26.24 | cogwheel | Shirik: you should've seen the erros i got while designing http://cogwheel.info/idop/ |
| 01:26.33 | Shirik | cogwheel |
| 01:26.40 | Shirik | I ran into a massive problem yesterday |
| 01:26.47 | Shirik | I uncovered a 2-year-old bug |
| 01:26.49 | cogwheel | and i can't spell |
| 01:26.51 | Shirik | and everything exploded |
| 01:27.36 | Shirik | apparently someone didn't know you can't cast function pointers to accept another argument, even if the arguments are related >.> |
| 01:27.49 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 01:30.15 | cogwheel | lern2vararg!! |
| 01:30.18 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 01:31.15 | AbsolutRayne | Im really starting to like my Mage... |
| 01:31.37 | AbsolutRayne | Not as much as my Rogue, of course :3 |
| 01:32.27 | Shirik | no |
| 01:32.28 | Shirik | cogwheel |
| 01:32.30 | Shirik | I'm going to hurt you |
| 01:32.50 | Shirik | the whole problem was it was illegal to pass the arguments like this |
| 01:32.58 | Shirik | class Foo; class Bar : Foo; |
| 01:33.07 | Shirik | We were being passed a Foo* but accepting it as a Bar* |
| 01:33.15 | Shirik | now it WAS a Bar*, but multiple inheritance broke it all to hell |
| 01:35.05 | cogwheel | oh... wrong "another" |
| 01:37.31 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:37.32 | Shirik | sorry |
| 01:37.45 | Shirik | but omg you have no idea how long it took me to figure out wtf was going on |
| 01:38.00 | Shirik | because the cast is incredibly hidden behind a million macros of COTS code |
| 01:38.04 | Shirik | stuff we didn't write |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | and the debugger was going "uh, you fucked something up. Good luck" basically |
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| 01:38.47 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 01:39.22 | Shirik | like it was so wierd |
| 01:39.29 | Shirik | One step everything is OK |
| 01:39.39 | Shirik | next step every member has become invalid |
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| 01:39.54 | Shirik | finally figured it out when I stopped at the crash point and walked up the stack and everything was fine |
| 01:40.02 | Shirik | and then realized the 'this' pointer was off by a few bytes |
| 01:40.02 | Jerub | *shakes fist at freenode |
| 01:41.14 | Shirik | I feel the waves begin to rise |
| 01:41.20 | Shirik | Far across the oceans, deep within your eyes |
| 01:41.24 | Shirik | Silently watching as they fall |
| 01:41.29 | Shirik | I can see the future locked within the crystal ball |
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| 01:46.17 | Kraps | this is pretty win, people up in arms about the 3 negative reviews |
| 01:47.39 | Wobin | of? |
| 01:48.14 | Thunder_Child | hmmm..the last airbender seems to be tanking |
| 01:48.51 | Jerub | okay, so what's the forumla for defence? |
| 01:49.08 | Jerub | i put on something that's +60 defence and it barely moves, so clearly there's a factor there :P |
| 01:49.10 | Kraps | Wobin: toy story 3 |
| 01:49.47 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: the movie? |
| 01:49.55 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: yes |
| 01:50.13 | Wobin | ie, the movie about a completely asian society, in which none of the actors are asian? =P |
| 01:50.56 | Thunder_Child | yes, the show that was not drawn anime style |
| 01:51.04 | Wobin | I kinda wanted to watch it, because it seemed a good story... but could they have whitewashed it any more? |
| 01:51.22 | Wobin | it's not like there's a dearth of asian actors who know martial arts =P |
| 01:52.37 | Shadowed | augh |
| 01:52.40 | Shadowed | Bibi where is Adys |
| 01:52.47 | Shadowed | he broke MMOC DB and I hate him |
| 01:54.22 | Jerub | ah, right. my defence skill is at 395 at the moment, so i get another 5 points automaticaly. |
| 01:54.37 | Jerub | but i'm still stuck at 478 even after that. need moar defence. |
| 01:54.39 | amro | Shadowed: I kidnapped him |
| 01:54.55 | Shadowed | blat |
| 01:54.56 | Shadowed | blast |
| 01:55.14 | Jerub | and its... 4.92:1 from the item stat to my rating. |
| 01:58.31 | Shirik | 198.38.8.0 - 198.38.12.255 |
| 01:58.52 | cogwheel | 42.69.666.13 |
| 01:59.02 | Shirik | quiet you |
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| 02:00.07 | Shirik | 198.38.00001000.00000000 - 198.38.00001100.11111111 |
| 02:00.28 | Shirik | 198.38.8.0/11 ? |
| 02:00.30 | Shirik | Did I get that right? |
| 02:01.15 | Shirik | I mean 32 - 11 |
| 02:01.17 | Shirik | 21 |
| 02:05.21 | Wobin | http://www.break.com/index/iphone-4-vs-htc-evo.html |
| 02:05.48 | Kraps | lame, usa is out of the world cup |
| 02:07.11 | Wobin | Kraps: isn't that old news? |
| 02:07.18 | Kraps | i'll get over it in about 10 minutes |
| 02:07.26 | Kraps | i forgot to check |
| 02:08.29 | Thunder_Child | i watched the end, they did rather poorly |
| 02:10.50 | Kraps | "Asamoah Gyan scored three minutes into extra time to secure a historic place in the FIFA World Cup⢠quarter-finals for Ghana after a dramatic 2-1 victory over USA in Rustenburg." |
| 02:11.28 | Thunder_Child | there is someone on that team that sounds like 'fail harder' |
| 02:11.32 | Thunder_Child | whos name* |
| 02:11.51 | Thunder_Child | it was amazing when i first heard the announcer say that |
| 02:12.00 | Kraps | lol |
| 02:12.32 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: airbender is at 8% on rotten tomatoes |
| 02:12.46 | Thunder_Child | seems to have gone up 2% |
| 02:13.52 | Kraps | The Twilight Saga: Eclipse is at 50%, which is apparently better than the last one :o |
| 02:14.16 | Thunder_Child | i have a feeling people mark that down just because |
| 02:16.16 | ScytheBlade1 | what does it take to get xomcast to fix their crap? |
| 02:16.21 | ScytheBlade1 | *comcast |
| 02:16.32 | Shirik | A new ISP |
| 02:16.49 | ScytheBlade1 | getting there |
| 02:16.56 | Kraps | arent reviewers supposed to be impartial until viewing? :p |
| 02:17.20 | Thunder_Child | Kraps...and in what world do you live in? |
| 02:18.19 | Kraps | look, i dont really understand the blind loathing of twilight |
| 02:19.13 | Thunder_Child | it's prolly just huge e-peen jealousy |
| 02:20.17 | cogwheel | beta UI porn http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?p=195442#post195442 |
| 02:20.35 | kd3 | beta map porn: http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Cata_maps_compared |
| 02:22.03 | Kraps | holy shit |
| 02:23.26 | Thunder_Child | oddly enough, as good as that is there are better ways of displaying that |
| 02:28.57 | amro | Thunder_Child: there are worse names |
| 02:29.00 | amro | Kaka, for starters |
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| 02:31.34 | Thunder_Child | amro: huh? |
| 02:32.07 | amro | Thunder_Child: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kak%C3%A1 |
| 02:35.45 | Thunder_Child | amro: i wasnt calling it a bad name, i was calling it an awesome one |
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| 02:46.53 | ScytheBlade1 | time for an angry email |
| 02:53.44 | Thunder_Child | right ScytheBlade1, like comcast doesnt get quite a lot of them a day |
| 02:55.14 | kd3 | hm, looks like greg's posting drunk |
| 02:57.08 | Pytlask | kd3: link? |
| 02:57.21 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626575834&postId=257099483115&sid=2000#29http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626575834&postId=257099483115&sid=2000#29 |
| 02:57.24 | kd3 | grr |
| 02:57.27 | kd3 | stupid copy/paste |
| 02:57.30 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626575834&postId=257099483115&sid=2000#29 |
| 03:01.53 | Kraps | kd3: <random> ftw |
| 03:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | in case anyone is ever curious |
| 03:03.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The very last thing that the person on the other end of the line wants to hear from a customer is "I've done the same thing X number of times, and that hasn't resolved the issue. What is going to be different this time?" |
| 03:03.40 | ScytheBlade1 | It tends to strike fear into the hearts and minds of phone support reps |
| 03:03.45 | ScytheBlade1 | And gets crap done |
| 03:05.43 | Thunder_Child | odd, concidering i am alliance i wonder why this comes through "[20:03:56] Zapetta yells: The zeppelin to Orgrimmar has just arrived! All aboard for Durotar!" |
| 03:05.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Alliance can take the zepplin too! |
| 03:06.57 | Thunder_Child | thats like saying convicted fellons can take rides with the president. i can happen, but it's rather odd |
| 03:07.18 | amro | not that odd. the zeppelin itself is safe, but there are bruisers at the landings |
| 03:07.21 | ScytheBlade1 | It is MUCH more common than your situation there |
| 03:07.22 | Kraps | has anyone here seen http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0028010/ ? |
| 03:09.30 | Kraps | its brilliant |
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| 03:11.14 | Shirik | ~wiki penis equiation |
| 03:11.17 | Shirik | ~wiki penis equation |
| 03:11.25 | Shirik | aw |
| 03:11.27 | Shirik | already deleted |
| 03:11.38 | Shirik | Unknown to many people, there is an equation for human penis size when erect.It goes as follows: |
| 03:11.38 | Shirik | l=clw/e |
| 03:11.38 | Shirik | where l is the length of penis when erect, c is the circumference of the belly button, l is the length of middle finger, w is the width of foot, and where e is the number of eyeballs. |
| 03:11.56 | Kraps | dude... |
| 03:12.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Seeing as an entire knuckle of my middle finger was chopped off in a bike chain at 1yo, that equation can't end well for me |
| 03:13.04 | Kraps | damn ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:14.34 | ScytheBlade1 | lua> 3*9*10/2 |
| 03:14.37 | lua_bot | ScytheBlade1: 135 |
| 03:14.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I think your equation is suspect. |
| 03:15.03 | ScytheBlade1 | 135cm is a bit... well. |
| 03:15.04 | ScytheBlade1 | .. |
| 03:15.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ................................................................................................ |
| 03:16.36 | Xinhuan | maybe equation is valid for an elephant |
| 03:16.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Buddy. |
| 03:16.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Width of an elephant foot. |
| 03:16.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Think about that for a bit. |
| 03:17.02 | Shirik | here let me help you |
| 03:17.09 | Shirik | (del/undel) 20:11, 1 July 2010 Acroterion (talk | contribs | block) deleted "Penis equation" â (G3: Vandalism) (view/restore) |
| 03:17.10 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:17.21 | Shirik | Vandalism == don't take this for srs |
| 03:17.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm fully aware of that |
| 03:17.44 | Xinhuan | i'm just bored |
| 03:17.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I just knew it was going to be entertaining |
| 03:18.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Besides, all I'm doing now is writing a nasty email to comcast while listening to Chevelle (rrrrraaaaaaaggggeeeeeeee) |
| 03:18.19 | ScytheBlade1 | probably not the best mix, but they deserve what is coming their way at this point |
| 03:18.22 | Shirik | A German man is facing up to six months in jail for having a speech by Adolf Hitler as his mobile phone ringtone. |
| 03:18.30 | Shirik | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1290900/Hitler-ring-tone-German-man-facing-months-jail.html |
| 03:19.07 | Shirik | When he was taken into custody, police also found swastika stickers and a photo of Hitler on the telephone with the words: 'The greatest commander of all time'. |
| 03:19.09 | Thunder_Child | larts Shirik like a boss |
| 03:20.23 | Shirik | ok time to do my run |
| 03:20.24 | Shirik | bai |
| 03:22.30 | Shirik | ~~ |
| 03:22.31 | purl | somebody said ~ was the key |
| 03:22.37 | ScytheBlade1 | ~~~~~~~ |
| 03:22.37 | purl | ACTION lets a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh eat scytheblade1. |
| 03:22.44 | Trela | ~~ |
| 03:22.45 | purl | hmm... ~ is the key |
| 03:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Never gets old |
| 03:22.53 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 03:22.54 | Trela | ~ |
| 03:22.56 | Shirik | :( |
| 03:23.00 | Trela | ~~~~ |
| 03:23.01 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT trela!!! |
| 03:23.07 | Shirik | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
| 03:23.12 | Shirik | ok I'll stop now |
| 03:23.14 | Shirik | afk |
| 03:23.21 | kd3 | ~failrik |
| 03:23.21 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 03:24.52 | Jerub | who is it that runs elitist armory? |
| 03:25.08 | PProvost | Shadowed |
| 03:25.12 | Shadowed | mmm? |
| 03:25.14 | Shadowed | oh |
| 03:25.15 | Shadowed | yes |
| 03:25.25 | Jerub | Shadowed: *hug* |
| 03:26.08 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 03:32.30 | Jerub | Shadowed: can you tell me what's the difference beteen 'same type upgrades' and 'similar type upgrades' ? |
| 03:32.39 | Shadowed | Pretty much what it says :p |
| 03:32.56 | Shadowed | http://elitistarmory.com/item/48154/spirit-healer |
| 03:33.10 | Shadowed | Same is other caster, spirit items, similar are ones that are around the same type and are still good |
| 03:33.16 | Shadowed | but in a different category of item |
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| 03:36.10 | Jerub | http://elitistarmory.com/item/43947/tank |
| 03:36.30 | Pytlask | Anybody know of a good non-raid trinket for a holy priest that isn't too hard to get? |
| 03:36.34 | Jerub | in this context i want to upgrade a dps green i have to a proper tanking belt. |
| 03:37.05 | Jerub | Pytlask: i've have my ony trinket set since ony was released on my druid, i'm finding that very hard to upgrade :P |
| 03:37.48 | Shadowed | Which is where you would want to look at similar type |
| 03:37.54 | Shadowed | since a bunch of them are tank items |
| 03:38.17 | Shadowed | It'll be better once the upgrade system goes in, but first I need to actually finish this DB migration and server move |
| 03:38.27 | Jerub | oh heh |
| 03:39.05 | Seerah | this SERIOUSLY hurts my brain to read: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712371844&sid=1 I have to keep one eye closed and squint through the other to even focus on the text. (I read more than I probably should have. Wonder how many brain cells died?) |
| 03:43.19 | Wobin | Seerah: ... what |
| 03:43.26 | Wobin | ... no seriously... what |
| 03:43.30 | Seerah | shakes her head |
| 03:43.41 | Seerah | I'm still totally .... wow.... |
| 03:43.46 | Seerah | brain broken |
| 03:44.45 | Jerub | Vinilla WoW tee hee |
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| 03:46.38 | Jerub | i think what i actually want is the ulduar plate tanking crafted belt |
| 03:47.23 | Wobin | Pytlask: the nevermelting ice crystal is decent |
| 03:47.34 | Wobin | or the badge trinkets |
| 03:49.51 | Jerub | you're holy so the ephemiral one probably isn't the one to get. |
| 03:50.11 | Jerub | i still keep that in my inventory on my druid if i end up 2-healing icc |
| 03:50.45 | Jerub | low average dps group in icc10, deathwhisper was murder on my mana. |
| 03:50.51 | Wobin | holy get more use than disc |
| 03:50.59 | Wobin | on eph |
| 03:51.29 | Jerub | Wobin: eph is constantly proccing for druids, it's constantly at full-effect |
| 03:51.44 | Wobin | yeah |
| 03:51.47 | Wobin | damn hots |
| 03:52.17 | Wobin | <3 trees though |
| 03:52.35 | Wobin | I actually tank healed as disc last night in RS |
| 03:52.44 | Jerub | Wobin: oh how is RS? |
| 03:52.46 | Wobin | I did more direct healing than ever =P |
| 03:52.52 | Jerub | i haven't done it yet, paying too much attention to my warrior |
| 03:52.53 | Wobin | than I ever have |
| 03:52.57 | Wobin | It's interesting |
| 03:53.08 | Wobin | we got to phase 2 in Halion =P |
| 03:53.16 | Jerub | is it a simple fight? did you get it? |
| 03:53.19 | Wobin | but people didn't know the encounter |
| 03:53.31 | Wobin | It's a -lot- to keep track of if you're raid leading |
| 03:53.43 | Wobin | and each phase builds on the previous |
| 03:53.48 | Wobin | in terms of complexity |
| 03:53.51 | Jerub | what about for tank or heals? |
| 03:54.05 | Wobin | tank, you have to position the dragon -just right- |
| 03:54.11 | Wobin | and move him around a -lot- |
| 03:54.13 | Jerub | dang. |
| 03:54.19 | Wobin | healers, you have to stay in rage of -everyone- |
| 03:54.21 | Wobin | not stand in fire |
| 03:54.34 | Wobin | dispel the Marks when it's needed |
| 03:54.45 | Wobin | and -everyone- has to note when they're marked and -move- |
| 03:54.57 | Wobin | the mark, when dispelled, drops a voidzone |
| 03:55.05 | Wobin | the longer the mark is on the target, the larger the zone |
| 03:55.18 | Shirik | 180 142 136 |
| 03:55.22 | Wobin | so people have to really haul tail out of the main group and away before they get dispelled |
| 03:55.51 | Jerub | oh brilliant. |
| 03:55.52 | Wobin | and the dispeller has to know where they are, and hope that they got there fast enough not to cover half the circle in voidzone =P |
| 03:56.03 | Jerub | so this instance is really a bring-the-player instance it sounds like |
| 03:56.04 | Shirik | which fight is this? |
| 03:56.05 | Shirik | RS? |
| 03:56.07 | Shirik | RS is so easy |
| 03:56.08 | Jerub | Shirik: halion |
| 03:56.11 | Shirik | so easy |
| 03:56.23 | Wobin | what loot did he drop, Shirik? |
| 03:56.23 | Shirik | I don't understand why people are having so much trouble |
| 03:56.24 | Jerub | it sounds like it's easy for one scrub to wipe the raid. |
| 03:56.28 | Shirik | it is |
| 03:56.30 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 03:56.31 | Shirik | and that's the problem |
| 03:56.31 | Jerub | ^^ |
| 03:56.33 | Shirik | it's so easy |
| 03:56.38 | Shirik | but what the fuck is wrong with people |
| 03:56.40 | Wobin | 'easy' |
| 03:56.44 | Wobin | haha |
| 03:56.47 | Wobin | yeah |
| 03:56.51 | Wobin | easy if you're doing it right |
| 03:56.55 | Wobin | just like EVERYTHING ELSE |
| 03:57.15 | Wobin | however it never ever turns out like that =P |
| 03:57.34 | Shirik | no |
| 03:57.36 | Shirik | this fight |
| 03:57.36 | Wobin | Shirik of course never fails |
| 03:57.37 | Shirik | is so easy |
| 03:57.45 | Shirik | like |
| 03:57.48 | Shirik | pay the fuck attention |
| 03:57.48 | Wobin | and has soloed Halion |
| 03:57.49 | Shirik | it's not hard |
| 03:57.51 | Shirik | yes |
| 03:57.53 | Shirik | actually |
| 03:57.55 | Jerub | Shirik: did you do it on PTR or after tuesday? |
| 03:57.55 | Wobin | what did he drop? |
| 03:57.57 | Shirik | we were 2 manning it for a while |
| 03:58.05 | Shirik | after the rest of the raid died |
| 03:58.09 | Shirik | only the tank and I were left |
| 03:58.10 | Wobin | Shirik: 2 manning it means you failed |
| 03:58.14 | Wobin | FAILED |
| 03:58.17 | Shirik | and it was the end of the night |
| 03:58.20 | Wobin | FAILED |
| 03:58.23 | Shirik | so I was like "ok w/e" and decided to keep the tank alive |
| 03:58.24 | Jerub | ^ |
| 03:58.32 | Shirik | he only died after he said "ok fuck this" and jumped through the portal |
| 03:58.36 | Shirik | and ran as far away as he could from me |
| 03:58.38 | Wobin | 'Easy' means the whole raid survived |
| 03:58.47 | Jerub | 'easy' is the fire boss in voa |
| 03:58.49 | Wobin | so why didn't you heal the rest of the raid? |
| 03:58.52 | Shirik | I was |
| 03:58.53 | Wobin | and keep them alive? |
| 03:58.55 | Shirik | I forget what happened to kill them |
| 03:58.59 | Wobin | you failed =P |
| 03:59.01 | Shirik | no |
| 03:59.03 | Wobin | yes |
| 03:59.06 | Shirik | I never fail |
| 03:59.09 | Wobin | yes |
| 03:59.10 | Wobin | right there |
| 03:59.11 | Wobin | you did |
| 03:59.13 | Shirik | nop |
| 03:59.15 | Wobin | yep |
| 03:59.17 | Shirik | nop |
| 03:59.18 | Wobin | sorry, they died |
| 03:59.22 | Wobin | therefore you failed |
| 03:59.25 | Wobin | cause you're the healer |
| 03:59.35 | Wobin | Failer |
| 03:59.43 | Wobin | ~failrik |
| 03:59.43 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 03:59.50 | Shirik | nop |
| 03:59.50 | Wobin | in any case |
| 03:59.53 | Jerub | tbh, i hate it when i get assigned particular roles as a healer. |
| 03:59.58 | Wobin | it's easy if people do it right |
| 04:00.02 | Shirik | exactly |
| 04:00.04 | Wobin | but getting people to do it right is hard |
| 04:00.07 | Shirik | and it's not a hard fight to right |
| 04:00.12 | Jerub | the best raids are ones where the healers ask, "heal assigns please" and they get told "DON'T FAIL" |
| 04:00.12 | Shirik | the hard part is finding 25 people |
| 04:00.14 | Shirik | that are intelligent |
| 04:00.34 | Wobin | indeed, an 'easy' fight is one that can be steamrolled via gear |
| 04:00.36 | Jerub | so there are 5-6 healers in a 25 man who all know they are personally responsible for the entire team not failing |
| 04:01.05 | Wobin | well most healers know their general role |
| 04:01.10 | Wobin | tank healer or raid healer etc |
| 04:01.32 | Wobin | as long as you organise between yourselves the tank heals, everyone is usually pretty sweet |
| 04:01.37 | Jerub | Wobin: watching everyone's health bars and my recount i often get a feel for the strengths of the other healers and shore up the weaker areas. |
| 04:01.46 | Wobin | of course |
| 04:02.07 | Wobin | we didn't have a pally healer on our run |
| 04:02.14 | Jerub | i still want to find that healing addon that shows who is healing who |
| 04:02.15 | Wobin | so I was direct healing a whole damn lot more =P |
| 04:02.28 | Wobin | Jerub: what, visually? |
| 04:02.48 | Wobin | that would be an interesting module for hudmap |
| 04:03.03 | Wobin | but druids would not show up well =P |
| 04:03.09 | Jerub | Wobin: yeah, it was a grid that showed lines between healers and healees. |
| 04:04.01 | Wobin | In any case, RS is a hard fight if you're a raid leader =P |
| 04:04.14 | Wobin | we only had time for a couple of attempts |
| 04:04.29 | Shirik | you know, I think if there was a grammy for food |
| 04:04.33 | Shirik | powerbar would win one |
| 04:04.42 | Wobin | And I was a defacto raid leader because I was reading from wowhead =P |
| 04:05.11 | Wobin | Shirik: for acting like food really convincingly? |
| 04:05.12 | Jerub | Wobin: i hate that. |
| 04:05.20 | Shirik | Wobin: Their recovery bars are genius |
| 04:05.27 | Jerub | Wobin: i've ended up raidleading fights because i had vent, and run wow in a window |
| 04:05.36 | Shirik | nutritionally accurate but taste awesome so you can convince your body it's a "reward" |
| 04:06.10 | Wobin | Jerub: it's the equivalent of back seat driving by reading the car manual from the glovebox =P |
| 04:08.58 | Wobin | http://screencast.com/t/ZDg3ZDlkM |
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| 04:12.31 | Jerub | Wobin: what's that? i'm at work |
| 04:12.40 | Wobin | wowhead's filter |
| 04:12.45 | Wobin | for holy priest trinkets |
| 04:12.48 | Wobin | that drop from heroics |
| 04:12.54 | Wobin | include the Needle Encrusted Scorpion |
| 04:18.09 | Jerub | because holy priests really need that arp for pve |
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| 05:03.44 | Shirik | can someone please explain to me why there is fat in peanuts? |
| 05:04.15 | Fisker | it's a conspiracy Shirik |
| 05:04.25 | Shirik | you're a conspiracy |
| 05:08.54 | Jerub | ahhhh |
| 05:09.06 | Jerub | my friend's account that was hacked had the toon moved to area52 from dath'remar |
| 05:09.26 | Dagmar | "Level 80 premade characters, on sale now!" |
| 05:10.01 | Jerub | well, in this case im' guessing it was used as a gold mule. |
| 05:10.21 | Dagmar | Shirik: Peanuts are seeds and fats figure prominently in the early life stages of most of the stuff on this planet |
| 05:13.30 | Dagmar | Although RealID is in now which somewhat eliminates the issue of "who's @#$#@ alt is that?" I'm starting to get the feeling I should cross myself against DoD complaints and write some semi-strong crypto for automatic auth against *guildmates* |
| 05:13.41 | Dagmar | Seems like more people play on the same machine or two all the time |
| 05:14.36 | Dagmar | One of our guildmates got hacked last week. The guild leader and his wife saw the toon selling stuff and not answering tells, so they hollered for a GM. |
| 05:14.44 | Dagmar | Account restored before the day was out |
| 05:14.59 | Dagmar | The thief generated about 10k gold, but didn't have time to ship it anywhere |
| 05:16.38 | Dagmar | Being able to declare "the auth attemp will pass on the first try or we are SURE it's not the right person" makes it a whole lot simpler to model |
| 05:18.05 | Shirik | ?? |
| 05:18.10 | Shirik | why |
| 05:18.26 | Shirik | what is this auth supposed to do |
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| 05:18.44 | Jerub | Dagmar: if we see a guildmate log on and toonhop we always say hello and ask him how it's going. |
| 05:18.47 | Shirik | kinda like a cert? |
| 05:18.53 | Dagmar | SHirik: Basically, yeah |
| 05:19.07 | Jerub | Dagmar: kinda a human interaction test to see if it was a hacker. |
| 05:19.09 | Shirik | there's already an RSA library floating around |
| 05:19.27 | Jerub | we've been able to halt hacks in their tracks before |
| 05:19.29 | Shirik | I use it to sign my patches |
| 05:20.36 | Dagmar | Shirik: While RSA is good, there's export issues I don't care to deal with... and is that something I'd have to put *into* the addon or is it built into lua? I've got an old one-shot auth mechanism I was using on IRC for a bit |
| 05:20.51 | Shirik | it's purely Lua |
| 05:21.00 | Dagmar | AH I'll have to look intot hat then |
| 05:21.09 | Shirik | I believe someone in here wrote it |
| 05:21.12 | Shirik | foxlit maybe? |
| 05:21.21 | Dagmar | Probablyl |
| 05:21.34 | Shirik | it is fairly slow, be warned |
| 05:21.38 | Shirik | for obvious reasons |
| 05:21.55 | Shirik | Lua was not made to process large numbers :P |
| 05:22.11 | Dagmar | That would be another reason I would prefer to eschew it. |
| 05:22.39 | Dagmar | RSA being computationally-intensive compared to the hack I wrote, I imagine if 40 guildmates proactively queried your client at once, things would get nastu |
| 05:22.41 | Dagmar | er nasty |
| 05:22.58 | Dagmar | I wrote this other thing for ircII-script |
| 05:23.00 | Shirik | verification is actually extremely fast. It's the signing that's the problem, and yeah that could kill you |
| 05:23.48 | Dagmar | Yeah, on IRC I had to take into consideration the result of 500+ queries at once and whetehr or not it would lag out the user |
| 05:24.00 | Dagmar | ...so, it had to be very computationally simple |
| 05:24.38 | Dagmar | When your opponent can *try* a brute force attack, it could be used as a vector to deny auth |
| 05:25.21 | Dagmar | ...not like some goldfarmer is going to fire up 300+ hacked accounts at once to hammer someone with queries, but it was something IRC was vulnerable to |
| 05:27.16 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:27.53 | Dagmar | Remember... EFNEt used to be a freakin' war zone most of the time |
| 05:28.08 | Shirik | isn't that what IRC is for? |
| 05:28.11 | Shirik | being a warzone? |
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| 05:28.31 | Dagmar | I thought it was for trolling when you don't have the attention span necessary to wait for forum responses |
| 05:28.50 | Dagmar | ...but it did certainly put a lot of us on interesting career paths |
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| 05:50.08 | Jerub | Shirik, Dagmar: when i was involved in irc warzones it was in the years before forums existed... |
| 05:51.42 | Shirik | wow |
| 05:51.45 | Shirik | the dark ages of the internet |
| 05:51.52 | Shirik | that was like, before I was born |
| 05:52.59 | Jerub | isn't this called 'the endless september' or something? |
| 05:53.06 | Jerub | i actually joined the internet in that stamped |
| 05:53.29 | Jerub | yeah. sounds about right |
| 05:53.30 | Jerub | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September |
| 05:53.50 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 05:55.29 | Jerub | looks like google groups has forgotten about k12.chat.junior |
| 05:58.47 | AbsolutRayne | Hey guys, does the Stock WoW UI support Focus Target? If so, how do you turn it in? |
| 05:58.49 | AbsolutRayne | on* |
| 05:59.20 | Thunder_Child | one of thesse days i am going to have to go to the san diego comicon |
| 05:59.39 | Thunder_Child | AbsolutRayne: /focus |
| 05:59.45 | Thunder_Child | err... |
| 06:00.11 | Thunder_Child | no, wait, i think thats right...my mind seems to be going atm |
| 06:00.30 | AbsolutRayne | No, I meant like Focus' Target frame |
| 06:00.32 | AbsolutRayne | :P |
| 06:00.41 | Torhal | Urk. I've been on the Internet since 1989...Gopher FTW! |
| 06:01.06 | Thunder_Child | AbsolutRayne: yes, ore else the /fpcus command would be rather meaningless |
| 06:01.14 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:01.22 | Thunder_Child | or* |
| 06:01.25 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 06:01.25 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P Thunder_Child' action |
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| 06:13.41 | CodeRedLin | AbsolutRayne: You fix your DC problem? |
| 06:16.28 | AbsolutRayne | CodeRedLin: It seems ok atm. |
| 06:24.56 | AbsolutRayne | Course now that I said that, Dalalag strikes |
| 06:26.17 | Jerub | ugh. |
| 06:26.24 | Jerub | cataclysm itemisation is going to be weird. |
| 06:26.26 | Jerub | no spellpower! |
| 06:26.49 | Jerub | and it's all got massive amounts of stam |
| 06:27.21 | Jerub | nothing seems to have a stat higher than the stam stat either. |
| 06:27.41 | Thunder_Child | big HP pool, low heals |
| 06:27.47 | Thunder_Child | the way of the future |
| 06:28.46 | AbsolutRayne | It wont be so bad |
| 06:28.50 | AbsolutRayne | I feel worse for Hunters |
| 06:29.40 | Thunder_Child | feel bad for resto druids |
| 06:29.58 | Thunder_Child | not only is tree form on a cooldown but they move slow again |
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| 06:37.16 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: don't feel sorry for us. |
| 06:37.18 | Jerub | please. |
| 06:37.25 | Jerub | it's the ONLY TIME we'll be able to SEE OUR GEAR |
| 06:37.42 | Shadowed | Druids never moved faster while in tree form |
| 06:37.49 | Shadowed | they had more armor |
| 06:37.54 | Jerub | Shadowed: they used to have a speed nerf aiui |
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| 06:38.02 | Shadowed | that was back in TBC |
| 06:38.25 | Shadowed | oh wait, does the new TOL have a speed penalty? |
| 06:38.28 | Jerub | yes. |
| 06:38.35 | Shadowed | haha |
| 06:38.36 | Shadowed | stupid |
| 06:38.52 | Jerub | Shadowed: it's on a CD, limited time effect, plus speed nerf |
| 06:39.04 | Jerub | it's now an ohshit button instead of a always thing |
| 06:39.38 | Shadowed | Yea I knew that, didn't realize they reattached the speed limit |
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| 07:22.47 | Wobin | Antiarc: zomg, I'm skimming famous people by watching your convo with Neil on twitter =P |
| 07:23.02 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 07:23.03 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (3d 2h 2m 40s) #wowace (3d 2h 2m 40s) #curseforge (3d 2h 2m 40s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 12h 2m 15s, last said: 'They shouldn't, I run both'. |
| 07:23.06 | Fisker | also sauce Wobin |
| 07:23.48 | Wobin | http://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/17551762669 |
| 07:24.00 | Wobin | Antiarc: Tech Support to the Stars |
| 07:24.48 | Fisker | why is he twittering but not ircering? |
| 07:24.50 | Fisker | :( |
| 07:24.56 | Fisker | don't forget your roots Antiarc |
| 07:25.26 | Fisker | 5 years down the line paparazzi's will be taking photographs of you in hitler costumes and what not |
| 07:25.43 | Antiarc | Wobin: Haha, yeah |
| 07:25.48 | Antiarc | That's a little surreal for me too |
| 07:25.50 | Fisker | who is that neil guy anyway? |
| 07:25.57 | Wobin | awesome author |
| 07:25.58 | Antiarc | You don't know who Neil Gaiman is? |
| 07:26.05 | Fisker | i've heard the name |
| 07:26.15 | Antiarc | Sandman, Neverwhere, American Gods |
| 07:26.30 | Fisker | oh books! |
| 07:26.33 | Fisker | no wonder i don't know him |
| 07:26.34 | Wobin | and comics |
| 07:26.37 | Fisker | btw Antiarc |
| 07:26.44 | Wobin | Coraline |
| 07:27.01 | Fisker | is it impossible to make urls clickable in b.net whispers and so on? |
| 07:27.17 | Antiarc | possibly, I dunno |
| 07:27.21 | Wobin | Stardust |
| 07:27.22 | Antiarc | Will look when I get a chance |
| 07:27.27 | Wobin | Baeowulf |
| 07:27.46 | Fisker | not much of a comic or book guy :P |
| 07:28.15 | Fisker | btw |
| 07:28.30 | Fisker | some of the network specific nexus' doesn't have the update i believe |
| 07:28.41 | Wobin | oh, I went onto movies |
| 07:28.49 | Fisker | since you can only update to froyo from the latest update (prior to froyo) |
| 07:29.00 | Fisker | atleast i heard a lot of guys having that issue |
| 07:29.20 | Wobin | Fisker: no jumping versions, eh? |
| 07:29.54 | Fisker | well if you're running a custom rom you can :P |
| 07:30.05 | Fisker | but not OTA as far as i'm aware |
| 07:31.19 | Fisker | branding should be disallowed by law |
| 07:31.26 | Fisker | (rage) |
| 07:31.55 | Fisker | the US mobile market is seriously messed up though |
| 07:32.08 | Fisker | the only thing they had that was nice were unlimited data plans |
| 07:32.13 | Wobin | I think the mobile market in general is pretty screwed |
| 07:32.15 | Fisker | but even that is going out :( |
| 07:32.29 | Antiarc | Fisker: If you're doing custom yeah |
| 07:32.34 | Antiarc | But OTA should Just Work. |
| 07:32.41 | Antiarc | I'm on FRF91 as of tonight |
| 07:32.45 | Fisker | yeah |
| 07:32.58 | Fisker | But for example if you have a non-subsidized nexus one you will have no issues |
| 07:33.08 | Fisker | but if you have one through other networks then you might |
| 07:33.23 | Fisker | Of course if he got the OTA through the phone then it should work |
| 07:33.36 | Fisker | but if he downloaded a OTA update from the internet, then the above might apply |
| 07:35.02 | Antiarc | If you download you have to use the upgrade path |
| 07:35.24 | Antiarc | FRF50 -> 73 -> 85b -> 91 |
| 07:35.32 | Fisker | indeed |
| 07:35.44 | Fisker | but to update to FRF50 your phone must be ERE27 i believe |
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| 07:56.32 | Antiarc | http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/30269 |
| 07:59.42 | Fisker | what is it Antiarc ? |
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| 08:07.53 | Fister | fisker: how's the "Hello Kittens" addon going? |
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| 08:09.45 | Fisker | not at all |
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| 08:10.08 | harl | hi |
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| 08:13.40 | Fister | aww poop |
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| 10:09.49 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13816836687&postId=138154552349&sid=1#1 btw |
| 10:10.22 | airtonix | fisker |
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| 10:10.33 | airtonix | i will type two words |
| 10:10.40 | airtonix | i want you tell me how they make you feel |
| 10:10.54 | airtonix | lobotomy |
| 10:10.57 | airtonix | dildo |
| 10:16.03 | Wobin | heehee http://blog.patrickrothfuss.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Whiffle-Stamp-V2.jpg |
| 10:16.17 | Dementati | airtonix: dildotomy? |
| 10:16.44 | airtonix | that was a specially crafted psychological question for someone who is not you |
| 10:16.54 | airtonix | are you that person ? |
| 10:16.59 | airtonix | clearly not |
| 10:17.09 | Dementati | airtonix: Maybe I am. How could you tell? |
| 10:17.25 | airtonix | because your C:\ drive doesn't look right |
| 10:18.21 | Dementati | Feel free to look around, I'm not keeping anything important on there anyway. |
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| 10:50.13 | Arrowmaster | VICTORY! |
| 10:50.20 | Arrowmaster | http://www.trueachievements.com/game.aspx?gameid=2391 |
| 10:50.32 | Arrowmaster | look at the leaderboard on the right side |
| 10:52.04 | Spejnar | pro, you beat 78 other gamers |
| 11:01.13 | Spejnar | what attr am I looking for if I want to be able to equipt an item when I right click? Im pretty sure I need it in my event handler but finding it is harder |
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| 11:14.36 | airtonix | the one that says "Retarded=False" |
| 11:15.10 | Spejnar | pretty sure that aint the one |
| 11:29.18 | Spejnar | do I need to inherit secureactionbuttontemplate to be able to equipt items in my frame? I have a feeling we arnt suppose to use that yet, cant find another solution though |
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| 11:31.17 | Xinhuan | the answer is yes |
| 11:31.30 | Xinhuan | actually maybe not |
| 11:31.49 | Spejnar | I have a feeling we are suppose to use a solution doesnt require it |
| 11:31.58 | Xinhuan | nah i think you do need it |
| 11:32.10 | Xinhuan | because in combat, you can switch weapons manually |
| 11:32.15 | Xinhuan | by right clicking on it |
| 11:32.18 | Xinhuan | addons can't do that now |
| 11:32.26 | Xinhuan | automatically that is |
| 11:32.39 | Spejnar | true but for this addon, equiping in combat isnt an issue but I guess generally it is |
| 11:32.51 | Wobin | awesome: http://www.teefury.com/index.php |
| 11:33.44 | Xinhuan | if its not in combat |
| 11:34.03 | Xinhuan | just UseContainerItem(bag, slot) |
| 11:34.14 | Xinhuan | in the right click handler |
| 11:35.09 | Xinhuan | bye! |
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| 11:58.50 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormscale&cn=Bzzbzz <-lold |
| 12:01.49 | Spejnar | ehm.. |
| 12:02.19 | Spejnar | like his ES glyph as MM |
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| 12:04.22 | foxlit | People doing bgs in tank gear are weird |
| 12:05.12 | Spejnar | like the lvl60 pally with 20k hp? Im sure he had fun ^^ |
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| 12:20.37 | ZorbaTHut | foxlit, I used to do that on my warrior. it was fun being a walking zone of annoyance |
| 12:20.44 | ZorbaTHut | anyone who says you can't tank actual players has simply never tried. |
| 12:21.21 | foxlit | I'm even annoyed at you if you're on my team |
| 12:21.45 | foxlit | You healsink :P |
| 12:30.54 | foxlit | [That is, however, at 80] |
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| 12:35.58 | ZorbaTHut | would you rather be healing a prot warrior with shield wall up, or a mage? :P |
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| 12:56.32 | Fisker | mage |
| 12:56.34 | Fisker | maaaaage |
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| 13:01.23 | Fierceflame | Tanking in PvP is fun :D |
| 13:01.28 | Fierceflame | As Doomkin :P |
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| 13:20.53 | alestane | Heyo, Peppy. |
| 13:21.18 | alestane | How has your hand been lately? |
| 13:22.40 | Lopeppeppy | More or less the same. Still no hand sewing. |
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| 13:28.20 | alestane | So, sort of improved, lightly usable but still kind of cranky? |
| 13:29.22 | alestane | Should be all kinds of better! |
| 13:29.31 | alestane | comforts Lopeppeppy's hand. |
| 13:31.09 | Lopeppeppy | should be can't be made to care |
| 13:31.23 | alestane | Oh, I know. |
| 13:31.53 | alestane | I take a moment to wish anyway. |
| 13:34.27 | Fisker | LOL @ APPLE |
| 13:34.29 | Fisker | LOLOOLOL |
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| 13:34.41 | Fisker | this is so funny it almost hurts |
| 13:34.42 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/apple-responds-to-iphone-4-reception-issue |
| 13:36.57 | theorbtwo | It actually generally agrees with http://www.anandtech.com/show/3794/the-iphone-4-review/2 |
| 13:37.03 | Lopeppeppy | -Oh, we'll just spoof your display so you'll stop complaining! |
| 13:37.25 | amro | is that why they're hiring antenna engineers? |
| 13:37.28 | theorbtwo | That is, half of the problem is that the display is already pretty spoofed. |
| 13:37.29 | amro | so they can implement the signal strength formula? |
| 13:37.33 | alestane | So, there's no actual problem with their antenna, just they were lying optimistically to you about your signal strength? |
| 13:37.48 | Lopeppeppy | And have been all along, so why was this not a problem with 3? |
| 13:37.49 | alestane | Or so they assert. |
| 13:38.48 | theorbtwo | The scale was distorted such that almost all signal strengths show as five bars, which means that if you barely had five bars, a fairly small drop could loose you several bars worth of signal. |
| 13:39.05 | amro | how does that solve anything though? you'd still have a crappy signal |
| 13:40.01 | Lopeppeppy | And it doesn't answer why the 3 didn't see the same problems, if it was using the same formula. |
| 13:40.17 | theorbtwo | You need to both fix the display to not overemphisize the problem and fix the antenna to not have the problem. |
| 13:40.17 | amro | indeed |
| 13:40.51 | Kraps | was there a crappy signal problem? i just kept hearing about the bars, now that i think about it |
| 13:41.17 | theorbtwo | Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not asserting that the iPhone doesn't loose a shocking amount of signal when you hold it in such a way as to bridge the antenna. It's amazingly silly design to have those elements exposed. |
| 13:41.29 | alestane | As far as I know (having sold mobile devices for a few years) they are correct about the point that basically every mobile handheld can be gripped in such a way as to impair its service. |
| 13:41.30 | amro | Kraps: I remember reading about people being unable to make calls |
| 13:41.57 | Lopeppeppy | I believe that, alestane. I can impair my remote control, why not my phone? |
| 13:42.10 | alestane | Phones traditionally solved this problem by sticking the antenna out into a position where the grips in question are not natural ones in using the phone. |
| 13:42.45 | Lopeppeppy | but the iphone rotates, so there's no "unnatural" angle. |
| 13:42.52 | Fisker | Kraps if you hold it in a specific way (apparently the same way a leftie would hold a phone) then you lose the signal |
| 13:43.10 | Fisker | it's not a question of lowering reception or anything, you flat out lose the signal |
| 13:43.19 | Kraps | mmm |
| 13:44.02 | alestane | However, since the iPhone can be used held at multiple angles, and Apple doesn't like having an antenna sticking out of its pristine borders (although they're hardly alone in that regard), there's no really good place. |
| 13:44.05 | Kraps | why dont the put in near the top of the phone? |
| 13:44.12 | Fisker | you're not allowed to |
| 13:44.15 | Fisker | well you are |
| 13:44.21 | Fisker | if you can keep radiation levels low enough |
| 13:44.23 | Fisker | (but you can't) |
| 13:44.29 | theorbtwo | The FCC and AT&T tests both regulate how much radiation you can put into the head. |
| 13:44.30 | alestane | The top becomes the side if you're using it in landscape orientation, Kraps. |
| 13:44.40 | theorbtwo | Both tests ignore the fact that you have to hold the thing, too. |
| 13:44.56 | alestane | At which point you might easily be holding it there. |
| 13:45.23 | theorbtwo | Oh, also, don't forget that you'll switch hands fairly often on a smartphone, too -- since you want to hold it to your head with your good hand, but hold it when typing with your bad hand so you can type with your good hand. |
| 13:45.32 | Kraps | alestane: yes but when you talk on it theres olny one way to hold it |
| 13:45.53 | Fisker | i frequently use my left hand to hold the phone if i'm doing something else |
| 13:45.56 | Lopeppeppy | The iPhone has too many uses to limit it to just talking. |
| 13:46.40 | Kraps | oh the antenna is for net stuff too /facepalm |
| 13:46.43 | Fisker | people are insane btw |
| 13:46.44 | theorbtwo | Just like every Apple phone, and lots of non-apple ones, they sell on astethics without the case, but if you want it to be usable you have to keep it in a case. |
| 13:46.49 | alestane | The other group of assertions I'm seeing from people (although I have no idea how credible they are) is that the antenna is somehow electrically more exposed than on previous models, so that if you're physically touching the right part of the phone, you're effectively shorting the antenna out to the rest of the body and destroying its reception. |
| 13:47.09 | alestane | Or something like that. |
| 13:47.30 | alestane | I don't know enough about the particulars of radioelectrics to judge that one. |
| 13:47.33 | theorbtwo | alestane: Yes, that's quite correct. The antenna on an iPhone 4 is exposed metal, like a boom box. |
| 13:47.40 | Fisker | Apparently telling you over e-mail, over the forums, in-game, in new terms of service, in a warning to help you know the terms of service is new and finally having to confirm that is apparently not "transparent enough" |
| 13:47.48 | Fisker | *exhales* |
| 13:48.05 | Fisker | they should've phoned too! |
| 13:48.20 | theorbtwo | Back when engadget got a beta one, everybody said "I'm sure they'll put some kind of clear plastic over it on the real one". They didn't. |
| 13:48.22 | Fisker | and they could make a silly montage of Telephone |
| 13:48.48 | Fisker | engadget already knew about those issues? |
| 13:48.57 | Fisker | gg journalistic integrity |
| 13:49.13 | theorbtwo | IIRC. |
| 13:49.18 | theorbtwo | It's quite possible that I don't RC. |
| 13:49.20 | Kraps | wuts journalistic integrity |
| 13:49.26 | alestane | So if you put a strip of Scotch tape over it, does that solve the supposed issues? |
| 13:49.36 | Fisker | should do it |
| 13:49.55 | Fisker | the issue is that the conductivity of the human skin just makes you into a large antenna, that doesn't work |
| 13:50.18 | alestane | The human body is also a radio filter besides. |
| 13:50.23 | amro | unless you're Raiden |
| 13:50.26 | amro | then you get super reception |
| 13:50.42 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/13817046895/real-id-and-cyrillic-text/ |
| 13:50.57 | theorbtwo | It should help a lot, at least. |
| 13:51.34 | theorbtwo | There's not just the direct conduction you have to worry about, humans will also detune the antenna just by being nearby. |
| 13:52.00 | alestane | That's going to be a problem with any phone though, IIRC. |
| 13:52.01 | Corrodias | humans get good reception in the 60hz range, i think? |
| 13:52.10 | alestane | Or, frankly, any radio device. |
| 13:52.14 | Corrodias | makes a nice buzz when i touch my speaker plug |
| 13:52.34 | alestane | I can affect the reception of my clock radio on an iffy day by just walking around the room. |
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| 13:54.08 | Kraps | hey kd3 |
| 13:56.07 | Fisker | my telephone kd3 |
| 13:57.44 | Kraps | The word "hardcore" has been filtered from the search because Google SafeSearch is active. |
| 13:57.47 | Kraps | COME ON |
| 13:58.17 | Cide | owned |
| 13:58.50 | Fisker | that's pretty horrible |
| 13:59.10 | Fisker | not as horrible as not giving me beta access though |
| 13:59.23 | Lopeppeppy | Patience, Fiskerdin. |
| 13:59.47 | cog|sleep | gulp |
| 14:00.02 | alestane | refills cog's soda. |
| 14:00.42 | cogwheel | so... that post by zarhym right under my post about mcrun... In the last 2 days i've had as many visits as half of all last month... |
| 14:00.46 | cogwheel | >< |
| 14:01.22 | Kraps | kd3: the Dwarven starting experience is different in Cata? |
| 14:01.33 | Kraps | why? |
| 14:01.46 | cogwheel | all of the starting experiences were changed |
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| 14:02.18 | cogwheel | with lessons learned |
| 14:02.33 | Fisker | that wasn't soda alestane |
| 14:02.34 | alestane | Some less than others, I think. |
| 14:02.40 | Fisker | not soda. at. all. |
| 14:02.57 | cogwheel | alestane: for sure... trolls got and gnomes will get entirely new starting areas |
| 14:03.06 | cogwheel | however all of the quests are different |
| 14:03.07 | Spejnar | troll druid models <3<3<3<3 |
| 14:03.20 | Fisker | did they change them from the alpha leaks or? |
| 14:03.25 | alestane | Do they have tusks? |
| 14:03.30 | Spejnar | no idea, cant remember seeing the alpha leaks |
| 14:03.37 | Fisker | i recall hating them |
| 14:03.38 | Fisker | link again |
| 14:03.39 | Spejnar | they looks like freaking grafiti paintings |
| 14:03.44 | Kraps | Spejnar: what arent they the worst thing in the game since the Draenei? |
| 14:03.51 | Spejnar | Kraps: I love em |
| 14:03.57 | Kraps | i kid |
| 14:03.59 | cogwheel | the new quest lines have a much more continuous, plot-driven feel like the death knight (although maybe not quite as epic ;) ) |
| 14:04.16 | Spejnar | Kraps: and dont you diss female draeneis nor draenei totems! ^^ |
| 14:04.22 | alestane | Worgen was pretty epic, cogwheel. |
| 14:04.35 | Kraps | no spoilers! |
| 14:04.36 | Spejnar | worgen druid models were also awesome, but werent they gonna make armor affect the models? |
| 14:04.37 | cogwheel | well, yeah, they have to show off the brand new races ;) |
| 14:04.42 | Fisker | how fast is leveling 1-20? |
| 14:04.46 | alestane | And actually, goblin was pretty impressive too. |
| 14:04.47 | Fisker | still about the same or much quicker? |
| 14:04.53 | cogwheel | goblin was pretty hawt too. and I get to do it again thanks to a phasing bug >< |
| 14:04.55 | Spejnar | alestane: goblin druid? awesome sauce ^^ |
| 14:05.05 | alestane | No goblin druid. |
| 14:05.09 | cogwheel | goblin shammy |
| 14:05.11 | Spejnar | ofc not, but it would be cool |
| 14:05.17 | Spejnar | oh, are their totems epic? |
| 14:05.26 | Fisker | their totems are fucked up |
| 14:05.32 | alestane | I was referring to the starting quest lines by then, not the druid forms. |
| 14:05.38 | Kraps | you guys, get some invites for us! |
| 14:05.41 | Fisker | (in a cool kind of way actually) |
| 14:05.43 | alestane | I do love the goblin warrior trainer, though. |
| 14:05.51 | Fisker | s/us/Fisker/ |
| 14:06.00 | Spejnar | I love the UI changes, they look freaking awesome, small things that feel obvious |
| 14:06.05 | cogwheel | yes. my first goblin was a warrior. that was awesome :) |
| 14:06.57 | alestane | The new spellbook is pure win. |
| 14:07.20 | Fisker | i want beta nao |
| 14:07.27 | Kraps | it looks like a legit fantasy interface now |
| 14:07.52 | Fisker | i fantasize about you Kraps |
| 14:08.03 | Wobin | the new portal videos make me go squee |
| 14:08.14 | Wobin | but they also make me go "How the hell am I going to solve all those puzzles =P" |
| 14:08.18 | Fisker | it makes me go "ooooooold" though :( |
| 14:08.23 | Fisker | yeah |
| 14:08.34 | Fisker | the new puzzles are going to be pretty time intensive i think |
| 14:08.35 | Kraps | Fisker: i will kill you |
| 14:08.39 | Kraps | soon |
| 14:08.44 | Wobin | They've upped the complexity about a hundred fold with the new abilities |
| 14:08.56 | Fisker | then i can get beta in purgatory |
| 14:09.10 | Wobin | but not release =( |
| 14:10.30 | Fisker | when was the iphone 4 released? |
| 14:10.34 | Fisker | 2 weeks ago right? |
| 14:10.57 | Cide | judging by the specs, 2 years ago |
| 14:11.02 | Fisker | snap |
| 14:11.04 | Fisker | i'm just saying |
| 14:11.24 | Fisker | in 2 weeks, when noone have returned their abbomination of a phone, Apple will officially have won the game |
| 14:11.26 | Kraps | i still love this http://www.cad-comic.com/comics/73a81ecc1277177658.jpg |
| 14:11.47 | Fisker | It's like the new Futurama episode, except people are just stupid rather than mindcontrol |
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| 14:21.59 | Kraps | Fisker: http://www.losethegame.com/main.htm |
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| 14:23.57 | Kraps | http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=78 /hug |
| 14:24.43 | Fisker | i hug u Kraps |
| 14:24.54 | Kraps | no Fisker |
| 14:25.19 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, fuck. yeah. |
| 14:25.35 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=12664 |
| 14:25.54 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, meh |
| 14:26.02 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 14:26.06 | Kraps | dont meh me |
| 14:26.34 | foxlit | " Users observing a drop of several bars when they grip their iPhone in a certain way are most likely in an area with very weak signal strength, but they donÂt know it because we are erroneously displaying 4 or 5 bars. Their big drop in bars is because their high bars were never real in the first place." |
| 14:26.56 | Fisker | bam foxlit |
| 14:26.58 | Cide | r o f l |
| 14:27.10 | foxlit | Oh snap, totally unexpected fix direction -- they'll now rig their display logic to display fewer bar. |
| 14:27.31 | Fisker | well it was rigged to begin with |
| 14:27.34 | Cide | "the reception isn't much worse when holding it in your hand; in fact, it is just slightly worse, and overall bad all the time!" |
| 14:29.17 | Fisker | in other news |
| 14:29.33 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: this is kind of odd for prot but maybe it will allow more slow weapons in tanking http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=29792 |
| 14:30.17 | Fisker | Blizzard should know that customers wouldn't have read: E-mail, Forums, Website, Terms of Use, warning of said Terms of Use being changed, Warning that you would have to accept the new Terms of Use, or in the game itself |
| 14:30.26 | Fisker | Blizzard is practically like Facebook now |
| 14:30.57 | Kraps | Fisker: ? |
| 14:31.16 | Fisker | I believe that is all the places they made people aware of the new Real ID function and how it worked |
| 14:31.36 | Fisker | Someone is saying that Blizzard isn't clear enough that friends of your friends can see your name |
| 14:31.38 | foxlit | Kraps: a particularly moronic forum post, probably |
| 14:32.18 | Fisker | moronic? |
| 14:32.19 | Fisker | why no |
| 14:32.20 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:32.51 | Fisker | it's a completely understandable concern that Blizzard told you through any and every channnel they got that Real ID were coming |
| 14:32.59 | Fisker | and that it wasn't clear enough |
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| 14:34.36 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, I don't see it that way, I think it's just "do more damage while tanking" |
| 14:34.50 | Kraps | mmm |
| 14:34.55 | ZorbaTHut | that said, with the change to heroic strike and cleave, the whole fast-weapon-for-tanking thing is obsolete anyway |
| 14:35.05 | |Jelly| | It's funny tanking Ahune as a frost dk. |
| 14:35.06 | ZorbaTHut | in fact I think slow weapons are now better, from what I've seen |
| 14:35.10 | |Jelly| | Just sayin |
| 14:35.37 | Kraps | |Jelly|: as a healer i dont find that funny >:( |
| 14:35.57 | |Jelly| | As a healer, I do. I'm sorry. <3 |
| 14:36.12 | |Jelly| | I'll never do it again though. lol |
| 14:36.22 | |Jelly| | tank it as frost, that is |
| 14:36.32 | Thunder_Child | we tank stuff with ret pallys all the time |
| 14:37.51 | AbsolutRayne | Mornin |
| 14:38.12 | |Jelly| | Morning |
| 14:38.26 | Lopeppeppy | Heya. |
| 14:38.31 | AbsolutRayne | Oh, hey Jelly |
| 14:38.33 | AbsolutRayne | Long time |
| 14:38.37 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: everything at ahune is frost resistant |
| 14:38.57 | |Jelly| | I always forget to reopen IRC when I reboot my computer. |
| 14:38.58 | Kraps | which makes frost tanking there really sucky |
| 14:39.00 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 14:39.06 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: oh right. |
| 14:39.32 | |Jelly| | And obliterate/ps/blood boil isn't enough considering the cd on D&D :( |
| 14:40.00 | Fisker | lol |
| 14:40.11 | Fisker | people are reporting wrongly placed decorations for midsummer festival |
| 14:40.42 | Lopeppeppy | Priorities, peoples! |
| 14:40.49 | AbsolutRayne | So did anyone get into the Closed Beta? |
| 14:40.52 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:40.56 | Fisker | but naw AbsolutRayne |
| 14:41.29 | Fisker | they decided to only invite jerks this time around |
| 14:41.30 | Fisker | :P |
| 14:41.39 | Fisker | Damn i wish i had updated my system info |
| 14:41.50 | Fisker | They probably have a few spots for DX11 compatible cards |
| 14:41.53 | Kraps | AbsolutRayne: cogwheel and kd3 |
| 14:42.01 | Fisker | well duh |
| 14:42.04 | Fisker | they get into everything |
| 14:42.15 | Fisker | obvious alpha testers are obvious |
| 14:42.42 | AbsolutRayne | Halion is a joke, btw |
| 14:42.49 | AbsolutRayne | We got him on our second try last night |
| 14:43.02 | Kraps | why did blizz need a press release for beta? |
| 14:43.31 | AbsolutRayne | Who knows |
| 14:43.38 | AbsolutRayne | Probably 'Hey look at us!' |
| 14:43.50 | Fisker | Because the last time valued posters were raped by the horde of retards going "lol no beta, you're a fag" |
| 14:44.15 | Kraps | huh? |
| 14:44.21 | alestane | Also possibly to provide some solid information in the wake of all the scams at so forth that go out. |
| 14:44.46 | Kraps | your fish is incoherent Fisker |
| 14:44.52 | Fisker | no it isn't |
| 14:44.58 | Kraps | yes it is |
| 14:45.03 | Fisker | no |
| 14:45.05 | Fisker | with WotLK |
| 14:45.17 | Fisker | Blizzard couldn't be bothered saying the beta was live (atleast not on EU) |
| 14:45.33 | Kraps | what your point |
| 14:45.56 | Fisker | and people (like me) confirming the beta were just assaulted by mad hordes of trolls who didn't want to accept the fact that the beta was going and sofar, they weren't in it |
| 14:46.06 | Kraps | ah |
| 14:46.17 | Kraps | btw Fisker http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626346691&sid=1 |
| 14:46.45 | Fisker | i rage |
| 14:47.03 | Fisker | why do i have an account on US WoW btw? |
| 14:47.24 | AbsolutRayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_070110_203143-1.jpg Im thinking this is pretty much done. |
| 14:47.36 | AbsolutRayne | Since I have no better ideas of what to do with the AB and Sexycooldown |
| 14:47.44 | Kraps | goddamn fucking trolls http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22049843241&sid=1 |
| 14:48.09 | Fisker | i think it should be the other way around |
| 14:48.25 | Fisker | if it wasn't because they had changed their beta system |
| 14:48.39 | Fisker | since compromised accounts usually mean you can't be in the beta because of the change of details |
| 14:48.57 | foxlit | AbsolutRayne: on that background, the healthbars seem annoying to read. |
| 14:49.41 | AbsolutRayne | I wont ask why. |
| 14:50.18 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnMpOU1LNQ |
| 14:50.21 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 14:50.44 | foxlit | Becase the floor is colored similarly to the filled-in texture, so I perceive them to be transparent with some strange gray box being disconnected with everything else. |
| 14:51.21 | AbsolutRayne | I think DM is the only instance in the entire game, save some parts of SSC, that has floor colored that way. |
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| 14:51.32 | AbsolutRayne | So I think ill skate by clean on that one. |
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| 14:58.12 | Kraps | so open beta means that anyone can download the client and log in to beta? |
| 14:59.10 | malreth | generally, yes |
| 14:59.25 | malreth | hi, i'm malreth. |
| 14:59.59 | Kraps | lol you are? |
| 15:00.11 | Kraps | wtf malreth |
| 15:00.27 | alestane | "It was a large silver-gray Mercedes of the sort that they use in advertisements, and not just advertisements for Mercedes." |
| 15:00.33 | malreth | Kraps: nice to meet you... and your name is...? |
| 15:00.57 | Kraps | Smith |
| 15:01.06 | Kraps | Smithy Smith |
| 15:01.08 | malreth | Well, Smith. Pleasure. |
| 15:03.11 | Cide | hmm |
| 15:03.16 | Cide | what color is the wow font? |
| 15:03.19 | Cide | the golden one |
| 15:03.26 | Cide | 1, 0.72, 0? |
| 15:07.30 | Kraps | should wow go F2P? |
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| 15:10.07 | AbsolutRayne | Kraps: No |
| 15:10.23 | AbsolutRayne | I dont mind paying 15$ a month for a game that has its head on its shoulders (for the most part) |
| 15:10.38 | AbsolutRayne | Did it for EvE, have no problem doing it for WoW. |
| 15:11.11 | Kraps | Chilton was asked if they were considering it http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/06/30/blizzard-discuss-making-world-of-warcraft-free/ |
| 15:11.39 | AbsolutRayne | Id really hate to see WoW turn into a F2P with a giant cash store. |
| 15:12.23 | Lopeppeppy | I just pulled a dumb sheeple move because I forgot it was July. *head desk* |
| 15:13.02 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:13.06 | AbsolutRayne | Lopeppeppy: /pat |
| 15:13.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yar. I deserve to be shot. |
| 15:13.30 | Shirik | no :( |
| 15:14.40 | alestane | In your defense, it's only been July for a day and a half. That always throws me for a couple. |
| 15:14.46 | Cide | <Cide> hi Shirik |
| 15:15.05 | Lopeppeppy | And they look the same, JU, JU. 4 letters. |
| 15:15.07 | Lopeppeppy | Rain. |
| 15:15.17 | alestane | And shot-glassed, maybe, but not shot. I'll make a note of it for later. |
| 15:15.38 | Lopeppeppy | no alcohol, remember? I'm dying without the rum! |
| 15:16.04 | alestane | That's why I make a note of it for later, dearest. |
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| 15:17.17 | malreth | "You just reached level 14. Please pay $5 if you would like to resume gaining experience." |
| 15:18.02 | malreth | "You have mined 40 nodes today. Please pay $1.50 if you would like to gather more." |
| 15:18.17 | Cide | ya |
| 15:18.19 | Cide | err |
| 15:18.21 | Cide | mistell |
| 15:19.20 | malreth | "Please pay $0.50 to use the Dungeon Finder again." |
| 15:19.40 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch!! |
| 15:19.56 | alestane | Dare I ask what's gotten you onto this microtransations kick, malreth? |
| 15:20.14 | malreth | just thinking of WoW's F2P microtransaction model |
| 15:20.25 | alestane | If they were to have one? |
| 15:20.33 | malreth | yeah |
| 15:20.59 | alestane | No, I can't see that one. |
| 15:21.03 | Lopeppeppy | Nickel and dime you to death, literally |
| 15:21.22 | malreth | they likely would not do the "pay to level" thing |
| 15:21.24 | Kraps | alestane: see my link above |
| 15:21.36 | alestane | I saw that yesterday, Kraps. |
| 15:21.43 | malreth | but maybe $0.25 per full auction house scan? |
| 15:22.10 | alestane | He also basically said that it was only on the "someday if we need it to remain competitive" list. |
| 15:22.21 | malreth | yep, read that too the other day |
| 15:22.29 | Kraps | in related news http://www.massively.com/2010/06/24/global-agenda-going-subscription-free/ |
| 15:22.46 | nicoli_s | old news |
| 15:22.54 | nicoli_s | GA is pretty cool |
| 15:24.55 | malreth | alestane, you were talking about learning Cocoa the other day, ya? |
| 15:25.12 | alestane | Still working at it. Got most of teh basics down by now, I think. |
| 15:25.32 | malreth | add this site to your reading list: http://cocoawithlove.com/ |
| 15:25.34 | alestane | Still learning a new class or two every day though...working with NSTimer right now. |
| 15:25.59 | alestane | Noted, malreth, thanks. |
| 15:26.03 | malreth | np |
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| 15:29.06 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:29.32 | malreth | bah... i need to write a macro for you, Lunessa. I can't type fast enough |
| 15:29.43 | Kraps | http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm/loadFeature/3092/Ten-Most-Misused-Words-in-MMOs.html |
| 15:29.44 | nicoli_s | yech, i couldnt force myself to learn anything with that syntax |
| 15:29.44 | Lunessa | heh. Most days I'm slow. |
| 15:30.05 | malreth | nicoli_s: hrm? |
| 15:30.20 | nicoli_s | cocoa is similar syntax to obj-c right? |
| 15:30.32 | malreth | not similar... it is obj-c |
| 15:31.08 | nicoli_s | k thats what i thought |
| 15:31.18 | nicoli_s | obj-c xyntax makes me queezy |
| 15:31.36 | malreth | it grows on you after a while |
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| 15:36.11 | malreth | like mildew... but good mildew... that writes applications |
| 15:36.21 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 15:36.34 | nicoli_s | ive just gotten spoiled with C# and VS |
| 15:36.39 | nicoli_s | just makes my life so damn easy |
| 15:36.50 | malreth | cocoa itself is nice in that it has solid design principles |
| 15:37.14 | malreth | the language is just a language. work hard enough and you can grok anything |
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| 15:37.37 | malreth | but an API that's easy to conceptualize and work with? that's a million bucks. |
| 15:46.26 | alestane | Cocoa provides pretty much the same design structure that I was trying to create with the Diamond project, malreth. |
| 15:47.04 | DWSR | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/24702403015/the-tank-thread/ <-- LOLOLOLOL "Our design didn't suck as hard as we thought." |
| 15:47.09 | alestane | I'm not sure whether the Windows shell for PlaySmith will be written using C# or C++, though. |
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| 15:50.01 | malreth | i'm unfamiliar with the Diamond project |
| 15:50.41 | amro | brazil out |
| 15:50.51 | amro | \o/ |
| 15:51.03 | DWSR | They lost? |
| 15:51.15 | amro | yes |
| 15:51.21 | amro | 2 - 1 vs netherlands |
| 15:51.48 | amro | it could have easily bene 4 - 1 too by the end |
| 15:52.02 | DWSR | really. |
| 15:52.04 | DWSR | Huh |
| 15:52.07 | DWSR | That sucks. |
| 15:52.14 | DWSR | I was betting Brazil/Spain for the finals. |
| 15:52.20 | amro | sucks for you, then |
| 15:52.23 | malreth | brazil lost? |
| 15:52.25 | amro | I'm tired of seeing brazil at the finals |
| 15:55.26 | alestane | It was never published, malreth. I was trying to wrap a C++ OO interface around the Carbon API. |
| 15:55.34 | malreth | oh that |
| 15:55.46 | alestane | But since Carbon is basically deprecated, not much reason to continue developing it. |
| 15:57.26 | Lopeppeppy | bake me a scone instead! |
| 15:57.44 | Lopeppeppy | Demanding Peppy is demanding. I don't think you can bake one I can eat, I haven't found a recipe yet. :) |
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| 15:58.54 | DWSR | hehe |
| 15:59.14 | DWSR | I was looking at the latest talent trees for death knights, are they changing the 51er? |
| 15:59.19 | DWSR | the blood 51er* |
| 15:59.32 | DWSR | ah, nevermind. |
| 15:59.36 | DWSR | The tooltip's a bit different. |
| 15:59.42 | Moonwitch | just got fired :) |
| 15:59.45 | DWSR | 20% parry chance when activated is meh. |
| 15:59.48 | AbsolutRayne | O_o |
| 15:59.51 | DWSR | Moonwitch: Why is that something to be happy about |
| 16:00.07 | Moonwitch | Because they did so while I´m on sickleave |
| 16:00.17 | Moonwitch | aka they legally shot themselves in the foot |
| 16:00.33 | malreth | Moonwitch: can you make coffee? i'll hire you. i need you to make coffee for me. |
| 16:00.53 | malreth | also, i hate it when employers pull that kind of shit |
| 16:00.57 | Moonwitch | malreth: I can make excellent coffee |
| 16:01.02 | malreth | you're hired! |
| 16:01.28 | malreth | you don't need no references... we took care of that shit for you. now, time for the coffee. |
| 16:01.29 | alestane | How about shrimp, Peppy? |
| 16:01.29 | Moonwitch | well if they dare to enter a date before 30/7 on the thing, they have to pay me 6 months |
| 16:01.51 | Moonwitch | that´s why im smiling ;) |
| 16:02.37 | Lopeppeppy | I can eat all proteins, alestane. Shrimp are excellent! |
| 16:02.46 | alestane | Coconut flour? |
| 16:02.47 | Cide | Shirik: ping |
| 16:02.54 | malreth | so, my baby momma mistress? her manager is threatening to fire her because she misses a lot of work to take care of her baby son |
| 16:03.18 | Lopeppeppy | Bite me, he needs to be kicked. |
| 16:03.29 | Lopeppeppy | no nuts at all. |
| 16:03.33 | malreth | single mother, too... |
| 16:03.40 | Moonwitch | legally they can't fire her for that alone here |
| 16:03.43 | nicoli_s | malreth:if you like it put a ring on it |
| 16:03.54 | Lopeppeppy | This is what happens when there are babies, the manager knows this. |
| 16:04.01 | malreth | Moonwitch: oh, same here. they won't fire her for missing work |
| 16:04.13 | Moonwitch | so if anyone knows a place to work from home internationally even, or a job in belgium :D |
| 16:04.15 | Lopeppeppy | I wish she had a bettter solution though, I hate it when people get stuck. |
| 16:04.27 | malreth | they'll come up with bullshit reasons to put warnings on her employment record |
| 16:05.05 | malreth | "you browsed to a non-work related website" bam, level 1 write up |
| 16:06.01 | malreth | "personal phone call?" bam, level 2. now she can't even side-grade to a different job at a different department to get out from under that manager |
| 16:06.06 | Lopeppeppy | Yup, they just harass you for every other little thing instead. |
| 16:06.34 | Lopeppeppy | I like my workplace, we're much more flexible about that stuff, as long as projects come in on time and the hours get made up. |
| 16:07.04 | Lunessa | malreth: That sucks for her. She's a good person, and doesn't deserve that sort of crap from anyone. |
| 16:07.11 | malreth | she's gone to central HR to contest the level 1 that she got... i forget what it was actually for. but if she can get that overturned she can go back to level 1 and get out of that department |
| 16:07.53 | Lopeppeppy | I'll keep my fingers crossed for her, and against asshat bosses. |
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| 16:08.43 | malreth | she's also filed a hostile work environment report. she won't take this lying down |
| 16:08.56 | DWSR | That's what he said? |
| 16:09.06 | Lopeppeppy | Help her proof her resume and cover letters too, while you're at it. |
| 16:09.07 | DWSR | Sorry. :P |
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| 16:09.33 | Kraps | Fisker: cata stream http://www.livestream.com/eugeetv |
| 16:09.53 | malreth | the manager's pressuring her to resign but she refuses... it's better to be fired |
| 16:11.28 | DWSR | malreth: Not to be unsympathetic, but look at it from the other side of the coin. |
| 16:11.37 | DWSR | I can understand why he wants her gone. |
| 16:12.06 | DWSR | I don't agree with his tactics, or that he's neccessarily in the clear, but I can at least understand it. |
| 16:12.10 | DWSR | s/clear/right/ |
| 16:12.42 | malreth | her manager's a she... |
| 16:12.49 | DWSR | heh. |
| 16:12.52 | DWSR | s/he/she/. |
| 16:12.58 | DWSR | They. |
| 16:12.59 | DWSR | Whatever. |
| 16:13.10 | DWSR | You get my point. |
| 16:13.34 | malreth | and my friend is salaried... so a long as she hits whatever performance metrics they have for evaluation, the number of days worked/missed is irrelevant |
| 16:14.34 | DWSR | Like I said, I'm not downplaying any of that. |
| 16:15.43 | DWSR | My neighbour is a VP for a scientific equipment manufacturer. He has all sorts of people that he can't fire becaues they're protected under some law or another, but they are not very, if at all, productive. |
| 16:15.44 | Lopeppeppy | Yes, she should not resign. Being fired = unemployment, while resigning doesn't, IIRC. |
| 16:16.03 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Being fired = severance. |
| 16:16.45 | malreth | DWSR: she could give them more work to do |
| 16:17.15 | DWSR | malreth: My neighbour or your friend? |
| 16:17.17 | malreth | that's like driving in 2nd gear and wondering why you're not getting anywhere fast |
| 16:17.25 | malreth | DWSR: your neighbor |
| 16:17.34 | DWSR | Why? |
| 16:17.36 | DWSR | They won't do it. |
| 16:17.51 | DWSR | Or they'll half ass it and he'll have ot get someone else to fix it anyway. |
| 16:17.53 | alestane | But if they're not doing assigned work, then you have action items. |
| 16:17.55 | malreth | ah... so now they're insubordinate |
| 16:18.28 | DWSR | malreth: No, they'll just claim they can't for whatever reason that they're currently not already being fired in the first place. |
| 16:18.45 | DWSR | And then you're back to square 1. |
| 16:18.52 | malreth | create a project, assign it, set a deadline. they miss or fail on the evaluation metrics for the project success, mark it down. repeat. |
| 16:19.16 | DWSR | malreth: That, unfortunately, doesn't work entirely. Not here, anyway. |
| 16:19.57 | malreth | what country? |
| 16:20.00 | DWSR | Canada. |
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| 16:20.19 | Moonwitch | hey Seerah |
| 16:20.30 | malreth | i'm sure people can get fired in Canada for not doing their job |
| 16:20.35 | DWSR | They can. |
| 16:20.37 | Cide | damn you Shirik for ignoring me |
| 16:20.57 | DWSR | Although, if he could have fired them, he would have, by now. |
| 16:21.46 | Fisker | damn you Cide |
| 16:21.47 | malreth | i wouldn't be so sure about that. |
| 16:21.51 | Fisker | for not having beta for me |
| 16:22.05 | DWSR | He was telling me about one woman who has worked for him for 5 years and been on maternity leave for 3 of them. |
| 16:22.34 | malreth | making pretty babies |
| 16:22.50 | amro | Cide: try import shirik |
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| 16:25.12 | Cide | from __future__ import Shirik |
| 16:25.31 | DWSR | Wow. |
| 16:25.35 | amro | SyntaxError: future feature Shirik is not defined |
| 16:25.38 | DWSR | I forgot how absolutely boring Tree healing. |
| 16:25.42 | DWSR | is. |
| 16:25.54 | nevcairiel | I dont think shirik responds to python-style summons |
| 16:26.06 | amro | #include "shirik.h" |
| 16:26.07 | DWSR | Your mom doesn't either. |
| 16:26.23 | Cide | your mom responds to pythons |
| 16:26.24 | Lunessa | Morning Seerah. *huggles* |
| 16:26.51 | Lunessa | Nah, you invoke Shirik in VB... DIM Shirik |
| 16:27.02 | malreth | HEATHEN! |
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| 16:28.43 | foxlit | Mikk: ping |
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| 16:34.28 | AbsolutRayne | @)@ |
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| 16:36.25 | cog|work | http://io9.com/5576076/m-night-shyamalan-finally-made-a-comedy |
| 16:39.25 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 16:39.45 | Fisker | beta testers who got work are not good beta testers |
| 16:50.03 | alestane | "Shyamalan has boiled every epic heroic story of the past 20 years down to its most basic, primal soup-y essence, so he can spray it all over the audience, in a kind of Hero's-Journey bukkake. You will be finding chunks of Joseph Campbell's calcified spooge behind your ears for three days after watching this film, no matter how many times you bathe." |
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| 16:53.01 | cog|work | Fisker: more like beta testers who got work are not good workers |
| 16:53.11 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 16:54.33 | Kraps | DWSR: try disc healing |
| 16:54.41 | Kraps | not boring |
| 16:54.46 | Fisker | it's not healing lol |
| 16:55.53 | Kraps | you dont make sense Fisker lol |
| 16:56.20 | DWSR | Kraps: I can imagine. |
| 16:56.27 | DWSR | My tree's only lvl51, but still. |
| 16:56.31 | DWSR | It's like, Rejuv /afk |
| 16:56.33 | Fisker | i do Kraps |
| 16:56.39 | Fisker | it's absorption lololol |
| 16:57.07 | Kraps | lol semantics lol |
| 16:57.27 | nevcairiel | If you dont care about meters, just dont use rejuv and have some fun while healing |
| 16:57.32 | nevcairiel | although at 51 you dont have all the fun spells |
| 16:57.34 | Fisker | i'm a huge jerk waiting for beta |
| 16:58.11 | Kraps | what if you dont get in? |
| 16:58.18 | malreth | Fisker: i don't think you're a HUGE jerk |
| 16:58.55 | Kraps | cog|work: wow, this is taking "scathing" to a new level |
| 16:59.12 | Fisker | i didn't ignore cog|work |
| 16:59.21 | Fisker | so why are you only replying now |
| 16:59.23 | Fisker | THIS IS MADNESS |
| 16:59.48 | DWSR | "We need to show them that we believe in our beliefs as much as they believe in their beliefs." |
| 17:00.03 | DWSR | win |
| 17:00.22 | DWSR | nevcairiel: I don't have any fun spells. |
| 17:00.27 | DWSR | Though, I do have inneverate. |
| 17:00.35 | DWSR | Which makes for LOLREJUVLOLHURRICANE |
| 17:01.46 | DWSR | Still, so fucking boring. |
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| 17:15.07 | malreth | why is the Manual Install button on Curse.com a Flash applet? |
| 17:15.31 | foxlit | because matrix grrr grrr! |
| 17:15.42 | cog|work | malreth: to prevent autodownload scrapers |
| 17:15.44 | malreth | ah |
| 17:16.09 | cog|work | s/prevent/ward off/ or s/scrapers/scrapers from working/ |
| 17:16.24 | cog|work | lern2grammar cog|work! |
| 17:16.40 | jnwhiteh | I am on a rating landslide on HoN |
| 17:16.41 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 17:17.08 | malreth | and I suppose there's some mechanism keeping the scrapers from using the curse client install links? |
| 17:17.22 | kd3 | you've gotta be logged in to use those? |
| 17:18.32 | foxlit | malreth: presumably the fact that those links are meaningless, except to the client. |
| 17:21.58 | Fisker | technically speaking you could just scrape that |
| 17:22.13 | Fisker | though that would probably be discovered pretty quickly |
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| 17:26.55 | Kraps | DO A BARREL ROLL |
| 17:30.28 | amro | jnwhiteh: happens to me all the time |
| 17:30.39 | amro | it's almost as if the game decides you shouldn't win today |
| 17:30.56 | amro | and whenever I win, I get several in a row |
| 17:33.04 | airtonix | Fisker, http://media.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/704901/80621300.png |
| 17:34.04 | Lunessa | BONESTORM! |
| 17:34.42 | airtonix | hatches |
| 17:35.05 | malreth | stashes: http://yitingcheng.webs.com/psecretstash2010.htm |
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| 17:36.56 | airtonix | this link will explode in ten seconds |
| 17:39.14 | Fister | le fu- |
| 17:40.55 | airtonix | lol |
| 17:41.20 | airtonix | actually that plastic bag handle is pro but about 2 years too late for its prime. |
| 17:41.31 | airtonix | at least for south australia |
| 17:42.07 | malreth | i like the drawer that's hidden into the edge of the desk |
| 17:42.16 | malreth | uses a magnet handle to open |
| 17:42.19 | Fisker | don't ebum me airtonix |
| 17:42.53 | airtonix | malreth, pretty much 90% of the all the shopping centers only sell these types of bags : https://www.subarugenuineparts.com/images/subaru-recycled-shopping-bag-impreza-wrx-sti-legacy.jpg |
| 17:43.13 | amro | Cide: do you use GL, or only QGraphicsScene? |
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| 17:50.12 | Fisker | Cide |
| 17:53.03 | Cide | amro: the latter for what I use qt for |
| 17:54.34 | amro | I'm currently redesigning my architecture for looser coupling |
| 17:54.44 | amro | was wondering if you had some kind of separation between engine and graphics |
| 17:59.50 | kd3 | oof: 15->5->0:05->down |
| 17:59.56 | kd3 | something just fell over on lost isles |
| 18:03.36 | Duman | yeah |
| 18:03.37 | Duman | hand on |
| 18:03.39 | Duman | *hang |
| 18:05.35 | Maldivia | kd3: are you crashing the server again? |
| 18:05.44 | kd3 | this time it's not me, thankfully |
| 18:05.56 | kd3 | even then I was only taking down one world server, not the entire realm >.> |
| 18:11.36 | Kraps | how does one person take down a server |
| 18:11.41 | Maldivia | considering it was your mere presence that cause it, I think it was bad enough :P |
| 18:12.03 | Kraps | DAMMIT TOC |
| 18:12.22 | Maldivia | Kraps: for kd3, all he had to do was log on |
| 18:12.42 | Kraps | hes that aewsome |
| 18:12.47 | Maldivia | that's how bad ass he is |
| 18:12.53 | kd3 | just doing my job as an alpha tester |
| 18:14.39 | mikma | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/07/02/apple_denies_antenna_glitch_blames_formula_woes/ |
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| 18:14.44 | mikma | this is the best thing apple has done |
| 18:14.49 | Maldivia | kd3: well, perhaps doing it a bit too good |
| 18:14.58 | Dagmar | mikma: Such an awesome way to destroy customer trust |
| 18:15.35 | Maldivia | "it's not out hardware, we've just been lying to you with our software for a few years now" |
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| 18:15.43 | mikma | yeah, thinking that customers are idiots is always a good option |
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| 18:16.16 | Hirsute | Save a lot of time, that's for sure. |
| 18:16.48 | Hirsute | For the event UNIT_SPELLCAST_SUCCEEDED, it looks like arg2 is the name of the spell. I'm not able to get in-game at the moment, but I'm guessing that's the localized spell name, can anyone confirm? |
| 18:17.19 | Maldivia | it is |
| 18:17.28 | Maldivia | localized that is, dont know if arg2 is the name |
| 18:17.36 | Maldivia | all spell names are localized |
| 18:18.38 | Maldivia | the only exception is when linked in chat |
| 18:18.41 | Hirsute | Any event that uses the spellID, instead of localized spellnames, that you're aware of? |
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| 18:18.50 | Maldivia | the combat log events |
| 18:19.42 | Hirsute | Blah. I was hoping to avoid parsing the combat log. |
| 18:19.50 | Maldivia | COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
| 18:20.17 | mikma | maldivia: http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=OhSnap&path=%2Ftrunk%2FOhSnapCore.lua |
| 18:21.50 | Maldivia | there really aren't that much parsing going on with the combatlog anymore |
| 18:21.57 | mikma | maldivia: also, http://svn.wowinterface.com/filedetails.php?repname=mikma&path=%2FEnemyScanner%2FEnemyScanner.lua |
| 18:22.18 | mikma | there's alot of combatlog parsing in that addon =D |
| 18:22.36 | mikma | it relief of combatlog when trying to catch enemies at pvp server |
| 18:22.49 | Hirsute | Maldivia: *nod* Looking into it now. Hoping there's a way to tell from that event if the spell succeeded or not. I'm trying to write a small addon that will restore the old Cryolysis "snazzy quote when casting a portal" function, but I'd rather only do the /say when the spell has succeeded. |
| 18:22.56 | Maldivia | well, parsing, compared to the annoying string-parsing previously |
| 18:23.12 | Maldivia | Hirsute: eventTYpe == "SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS" |
| 18:23.44 | Hirsute | Maldivia: Wunderbar, thank you! |
| 18:24.04 | Maldivia | Hirsute: just make sure to check if the caster is the player :P |
| 18:24.15 | Hirsute | *nod* |
| 18:24.18 | Kraps | prat abbreviates the server names of groupmates |
| 18:26.31 | Maldivia | Hirsute: something like bit.band(casterFlags, COMBATLOG_FILTER_ME)==COMBATLOG_FILTER_ME |
| 18:26.47 | Maldivia | or casterGUID == UnitGUID("player") |
| 18:29.41 | Hirsute | *nod* Avoids me having to localize it if I decide to publish the addon, at least, having to localize the spell names. I'll make the users help me localize the interface if needed. |
| 18:33.08 | Kraps | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1289420/Would-let-YOUR-10-year-old-son-pose-like-beauty-pageant.html |
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| 18:43.45 | Kraps | sex http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wow.com/media/2010/07/cat-beta-level3.jpg |
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| 18:44.59 | Guest13992 | rape |
| 18:45.05 | malreth | that's not sex... that's WoW which is like the opposite of sex |
| 18:45.14 | AbsolutRayne | Does STUF not have a built in Exp bar? O_o |
| 18:45.18 | alestane | What does one do with this error message? I would have thought that setting instance variables would be an important function of an initializer. |
| 18:45.18 | alestane | no match for 'operator=' in 'self->PlaySmithGameClock::since = 0' |
| 18:46.43 | Kraps | fuck yeah http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wow.com/media/2010/07/cata-quest.jpg |
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| 18:47.28 | kd3 | yes. that has been awesome |
| 18:47.38 | kd3 | as has the new automatic quest offer/complete UI |
| 18:47.58 | Seerah | huggles Lunessa |
| 18:48.16 | malreth | now that was a delayed huggleback |
| 18:48.51 | Lunessa | takes 'em any way I can get 'em. |
| 18:50.36 | Thunder_Child | does anyone have the mount from kara and is in cata? |
| 18:51.08 | Seerah | I wasn't really here earlier :) |
| 18:51.30 | Lunessa | The horse? |
| 18:51.46 | Thunder_Child | hugs Lunessa in a very ackward and uncomfortable way |
| 18:51.50 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: yes |
| 18:52.14 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: No, I don't have that one. I do have the horseman's mount though. |
| 18:52.31 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: have you tried it? |
| 18:52.37 | Lunessa | And the Pritty, Pritty Princess Sparkle Pony. |
| 18:53.16 | Lunessa | I haven't tried to see if I can just fly when mounting anywhere. |
| 18:53.30 | Lunessa | I'll try it when I get home. |
| 18:53.32 | Lopeppeppy | carefully does not giggle! |
| 18:53.51 | Kraps | Lunessa is also in the beta /sigh |
| 18:54.02 | Thunder_Child | i only ask because this is what happened in the alpha http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/THUNDER__CHILD/Cata-image-3.jpg |
| 18:54.10 | Thunder_Child | and i havent tested it out lately |
| 18:54.10 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I'll show you /mounting/ |
| 18:54.32 | Lunessa | Hahah... That's awesome. |
| 18:54.49 | Thunder_Child | ...whats with the damn image resizing |
| 18:55.08 | Kraps | YES http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/image/1199-quest-tracker-arrowjpg/ |
| 18:55.44 | Lopeppeppy | purty |
| 18:55.52 | Lunessa | I only took a couple of screen shots - mostly of terrain problems and to show that the logo image on Kaja Cola cans looked Freudian. |
| 18:55.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes, Lunessa. Please take very clear photos, okay? |
| 18:56.15 | Maldivia | Kraps: in previous build the arrow was the size of the minimap so of no use :P |
| 18:56.22 | Kraps | lol |
| 18:56.28 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You don't think I should pixelate out the naughty bits? |
| 18:57.48 | Kraps | http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/image/1194-tracking-optionsjpg/ http://www.worldofraids.com/gallery/image/1193-minimap-trackingjpg/ HIGH FUCKING FIVE |
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| 18:59.30 | Lunessa | The multiple tracking thing is a really nice feature. |
| 19:00.56 | Dagmar | I don't think it should be there. |
| 19:01.17 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I can totally handle Freudian coke cans. |
| 19:01.19 | Dagmar | If you wanna be able to track bunches of things at once, roll a hunter |
| 19:01.43 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: The logo, from a distance, looks like a mr. floppy. |
| 19:01.52 | Lopeppeppy | awww, poor angel. |
| 19:02.03 | Kraps | hey Dagmar |
| 19:02.33 | kd3 | " Great work! There was a time when adventurers would collect these cores in order to craft mediocre fire-resistant equipment. But for now, I'm glad just to destroy these fiends once and for all." |
| 19:02.37 | kd3 | yay devs making fun of us |
| 19:02.44 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 19:02.53 | malreth | lol |
| 19:03.45 | malreth | good times |
| 19:04.09 | Lunessa | Hrm... maybe I should save those cores I still have... |
| 19:04.15 | malreth | it astounds me how many game mechanics have been pushed aside |
| 19:04.26 | malreth | resist gear... poisons |
| 19:05.17 | kd3 | if you really want a nostalgia wave... go look at [[Patch 0.6]] and friends |
| 19:06.12 | malreth | maybe if you could get the effect of resist gear but without requiring so many pieces of it? |
| 19:07.06 | nevcairiel | then whats the point? |
| 19:07.36 | Dagmar | To annoy the crap out of everyone else |
| 19:07.43 | malreth | maybe like just have a fire resist ring instead of an entire suit that you have to wear |
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| 19:08.11 | Dagmar | Every little bit helps, but people seem to get the stupid idea that if they get "all" the pieces, they should become immune to fire |
| 19:08.35 | Dagmar | I know my last run through Naxx tho, I actually brought my frost resist epics. |
| 19:08.44 | DWSR | I crafted mine. |
| 19:08.52 | DWSR | To get 100 club. |
| 19:08.54 | Dagmar | I was way, way at the bottom of the list for damage taken in the dragon fight |
| 19:09.10 | nevcairiel | To get 100 club, you actually have to just not wear any :p |
| 19:09.30 | DWSR | 1 of the pieces gives you under 100 FR. |
| 19:09.34 | DWSR | iir . |
| 19:09.35 | DWSR | iirc* |
| 19:09.40 | nevcairiel | We never wore frost resist |
| 19:09.42 | DWSR | I remember I was wearing like 90ish resist. |
| 19:09.44 | nevcairiel | and we made it just fine |
| 19:09.46 | Dagmar | I've already done that |
| 19:09.51 | DWSR | Just use a paladin's aura, gg. |
| 19:09.56 | nevcairiel | Turn off pally aura, get 100 club |
| 19:10.03 | Dagmar | That was the same run where I leanred that a hunter can indeed escape the ice block. |
| 19:10.19 | nevcairiel | escaping isnt really the plan |
| 19:10.20 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 19:10.22 | DWSR | detterence? |
| 19:10.27 | DWSR | deterence, whatever. |
| 19:10.29 | Dagmar | DWSR: Master's Call |
| 19:10.32 | DWSR | ah |
| 19:10.41 | nevcairiel | If everyone escapes, everyone dies |
| 19:10.45 | nevcairiel | not much fun |
| 19:10.50 | DWSR | actually. |
| 19:10.51 | DWSR | Not anymore. |
| 19:11.03 | Dagmar | Yeah well, there's only so many times you can get immobilized before smacking Masters Call becomes a habit |
| 19:12.38 | DWSR | 112k frost damage lulz. |
| 19:12.42 | Dagmar | <Raider#1> WTF I was behind an ice block?!? Why did I die? |
| 19:12.42 | DWSR | I can eat that on my tank |
| 19:12.52 | Dagmar | <Raider#2> @#$@#!!!! |
| 19:12.57 | Pytlask | kd3: So, the big question: Have you tried Cata on Wine yet? And how does it work? |
| 19:13.09 | Dagmar | whistles nonchalantly from behind the remaining iceblock |
| 19:13.44 | Lopeppeppy | trolls kd3 for the response! |
| 19:14.00 | Dagmar | The bitch was that I was *headed* to get behind the first ice block and then got frozen myself, so I thought I'd gotten stuck in a trap |
| 19:14.21 | nevcairiel | because there are traps in there? |
| 19:14.35 | Dagmar | I used to run BGs a lot then |
| 19:14.47 | nevcairiel | clean context switches are win |
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| 19:16.07 | DWSR | ^ |
| 19:16.08 | malreth | slices his peanut butter & jelly sandwich into triangles as is his custom |
| 19:17.06 | cog|work | It's malreth slicing sammich time! |
| 19:17.10 | Lopeppeppy | I have contempt for your bread, malreth. |
| 19:17.19 | Lopeppeppy | Actually, I really want it. |
| 19:17.23 | |Jelly| | wants a PB&J nao! |
| 19:17.33 | Dagmar | Anyone ever get freaked out by the size of your bread knife? |
| 19:17.33 | malreth | it's not bread, Lopeppeppy. it's... uh... dirt |
| 19:17.46 | malreth | a dirtwich |
| 19:18.18 | Lunessa | wants lunch, but has 3 hours to go still. |
| 19:18.20 | Thunder_Child | i want PB&banana |
| 19:18.33 | NightHawkTheSane | has lunch |
| 19:18.40 | Lopeppeppy | I am taste-testing cashew butter this week. That's a start! |
| 19:18.50 | NightHawkTheSane | a delicious turkey sandwich, with spinach, tomato, bacon, chive aioli, on wheat. |
| 19:19.00 | cog|work | Dagmar: http://www.amazon.com/Shun-Steel-9-Inch-Bread-Slicing/dp/B00022YI9K it's actually shorter than my chef's knife, but it's still somewhat intimidating ;) |
| 19:19.18 | Thunder_Child | sooo...more or less a club NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:19.47 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* for a loose definition of club. its a bit different. |
| 19:19.56 | malreth | i like cashew butter... almond butter too |
| 19:20.05 | malreth | mmm... almond butter |
| 19:20.09 | Thunder_Child | needs sourdough though |
| 19:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, it also has sliced chicken breast and sprouts |
| 19:21.20 | NightHawkTheSane | forgot those |
| 19:21.46 | cog|work | peanut butters |Jelly| |
| 19:22.17 | airtonix | Pytlask, no one here actually plays wow anymore. |
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| 19:22.38 | malreth | at least not during work-hours |
| 19:22.41 | Thunder_Child | except for old people |
| 19:22.49 | malreth | and very young people |
| 19:23.03 | airtonix | real people play solitaire |
| 19:23.17 | airtonix | i mean lemmings |
| 19:23.21 | NightHawkTheSane | who could play wow when the world cup is on? |
| 19:23.21 | cog|work | minesweeper |
| 19:23.29 | malreth | worms |
| 19:23.31 | cog|work | lols at sports fans |
| 19:23.34 | |Jelly| | ~lart cog|work |
| 19:23.34 | purl | forces cog|work to use Outlook Express |
| 19:23.40 | |Jelly| | ouch |
| 19:23.43 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs |
| 19:23.44 | malreth | OH NO THATS THE WORST |
| 19:23.48 | cog|work | i actually had to do that once |
| 19:23.59 | |Jelly| | I'm sorry |
| 19:24.03 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: the world cup is like the only real sporting event t ype thing i typically care about ;) |
| 19:24.13 | cog|work | outlook wouldn't let me do a mailmerge with the From: automatically set to my boss's address without doing it from his computer |
| 19:24.49 | cog|work | so i set up his account on my outlook express and set it as my default e-mail program >< |
| 19:25.14 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, the almond milk made me sick, so I'm trying a different nut. |
| 19:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | cog, you are made of sneaky |
| 19:25.32 | malreth | coughs at Lopeppeppy |
| 19:25.39 | Thunder_Child | is it just me or does it look like there is a computer on his desk? http://us.blizzard.com/_images/community/contests/writing2010/header.jpg |
| 19:25.45 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: too eays |
| 19:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | easy* |
| 19:26.03 | malreth | Thunder_Child: i agree |
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| 19:26.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: yeah, kind of. |
| 19:26.31 | Thunder_Child | computer via candlelight....interesting |
| 19:26.32 | Lopeppeppy | TC, it's just you. I don't see it. |
| 19:26.47 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: dont think it's just me |
| 19:26.53 | DWSR | T_C: I see it. |
| 19:26.58 | Thunder_Child | just to the left of the stacked books |
| 19:27.15 | DWSR | Just the tower. |
| 19:27.38 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. I dunno. I agree that I don't know what that is supposed to be, but it doesn't scream Alienware to me. |
| 19:28.11 | Thunder_Child | i hate alienware. such bastards |
| 19:28.28 | Thunder_Child | the account protect drivers on their site |
| 19:28.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i hate coconut. |
| 19:28.53 | malreth | http://skitch.com/fizzboy/dk7i3/is-that-a-computer |
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| 19:30.29 | DWSR | Anyone know when we're getting a Battle.net chat client? |
| 19:30.35 | DWSR | And then a android version of said client? |
| 19:30.45 | DWSR | Built on top of Jabber, so I can easily get Meebo to develop for it. |
| 19:32.30 | malreth | DWSR: i have a song to sing for you... it's by Aerosmith... and it goes a little like this... ~/o Dream on... dream on... dream on... dream on... o/~ |
| 19:33.04 | cog|work | malreth: my pants suddenly feel tighter |
| 19:33.21 | Lunessa | malreth: But the rest of that line is "Dream until your dreams come true!" |
| 19:33.22 | DWSR | malreth: While I agree that the Jabber bit is a bit of a pipedream, Battle.net chat client should be in the works and it makes sense. |
| 19:34.02 | malreth | Lunessa: hey... you're right! |
| 19:34.12 | malreth | there's hope for DWSR yet |
| 19:34.16 | malreth | so... |
| 19:34.22 | malreth | sing with me, sing for the year |
| 19:34.28 | malreth | sing for the laugh, sing for the tear |
| 19:34.41 | cog|work | in that cold November rain |
| 19:34.46 | cog|work | C-C-COMBO BREAKER |
| 19:34.53 | DWSR | ^5 |
| 19:35.43 | malreth | ooh... the Aero/Roses mashup! |
| 19:36.08 | malreth | now feels *his* pants getting tighter |
| 19:39.21 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear. |
| 19:40.25 | Lunessa | I propose a new drinking game. Anytime malreth becomes aroused, drink. Anytime someone enrages someone else's sense of political or societal justice, drink. Any time Lopeppeppy snarks, drink. Any time Fisker actually STFUs - DRINK TWICE. |
| 19:41.00 | malreth | since i am in a constant state of arousal... no one will be drinking because of me |
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| 19:41.33 | malreth | nevertheless... lawl at Fisker |
| 19:41.42 | nicoli_s | whats the use of the last one if it doesnt ever happen? :P |
| 19:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | It has happened occasionally. I think. |
| 19:42.01 | malreth | it's happening right now |
| 19:42.05 | Lopeppeppy | See? |
| 19:42.18 | malreth | sorry... i was still talking about me being aroused |
| 19:42.29 | nicoli_s | well id say hed have to be talking first to be stufing |
| 19:42.36 | |Jelly| | So we should all be drinking twice? |
| 19:42.45 | nicoli_s | yes |
| 19:42.53 | |Jelly| | And, in regards to Peppy at least, do the forums count? |
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| 19:43.25 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, I'm never snarky on the forums. Ever. That's dinoPeppy. |
| 19:43.34 | |Jelly| | Ahhh |
| 19:43.56 | |Jelly| | I should probably visit the forums more. |
| 19:43.59 | |Jelly| | meh |
| 19:45.54 | malreth | additional drinking rule: anytime |Jelly|, Lunessa, or tem get mistaken for being girls, drink. If Cairenn gets mistaken for a guy, finish the bottle. |
| 19:46.31 | tem | I AM ALL THAT IS MAN |
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| 19:46.49 | Lunessa | Lies. You has a dress. |
| 19:46.59 | tem | I haven't played my mage in like a year |
| 19:47.02 | tem | maybe 2 |
| 19:47.03 | |Jelly| | Hmmm |
| 19:47.15 | |Jelly| | logs off his female warlock. |
| 19:47.27 | tem | though I'm very disappointed with the DK rune system |
| 19:47.33 | nevcairiel | no don't do it, we want to drink! |
| 19:47.45 | nevcairiel | the old or the new one? |
| 19:47.51 | tem | ne |
| 19:47.52 | tem | new |
| 19:47.54 | |Jelly| | I only have two male toons, so I don't think drinking will be an issue. |
| 19:48.01 | tem | so I'm trying to decide on my backup plan in case they don't change it to my liking |
| 19:48.08 | tem | thinking prot warrior |
| 19:48.28 | nevcairiel | just suck it up! |
| 19:48.29 | tem | but resto druid looks fun |
| 19:48.29 | |Jelly| | It'd sure be cool to be able to test it out. Just sayin. |
| 19:48.34 | tem | and resto shaman looks fun too |
| 19:48.34 | nevcairiel | it sounded better then the old system |
| 19:48.37 | NightHawkTheSane | tem: put all teh classes on a dartboard, and throw darts |
| 19:48.41 | tem | nevcairiel, it's AWFUL right now |
| 19:48.48 | |Jelly| | Resto druid does look fun. |
| 19:48.50 | tem | I have 7 second blackouts every rotation |
| 19:48.52 | nevcairiel | i dunno, i dont get beta fun |
| 19:48.58 | tem | you can't tank that way |
| 19:49.19 | tem | also, the premade druid has a fun bug |
| 19:49.28 | nevcairiel | I will either play a rogue or a shaman when cata comes out |
| 19:49.30 | tem | lifebloom blooms on yourself always crit |
| 19:49.32 | nevcairiel | not really decided yet |
| 19:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | snarks on rogues. Drink! |
| 19:49.46 | tem | and they crit for about 20k per application |
| 19:49.49 | tem | no |
| 19:49.50 | tem | 40k |
| 19:49.58 | tem | a 3 stack heals for 120k |
| 19:50.00 | nevcairiel | its only on the premade? |
| 19:50.04 | tem | not sure |
| 19:50.08 | tem | I haven't transferred my druid yet |
| 19:50.20 | nevcairiel | I would copy mine if i could =P |
| 19:50.48 | tem | the thing that makes flowers grow when you crit works |
| 19:50.50 | |Jelly| | same |
| 19:50.58 | tem | but treeform does nothing atm |
| 19:51.13 | nevcairiel | does it have a new model yet? |
| 19:51.19 | tem | negatory |
| 19:51.32 | nevcairiel | i really hope they use a reaaally big ancient tree thing |
| 19:51.42 | tem | hee |
| 19:52.01 | |Jelly| | I have to pay for a race change on my druid. :( |
| 19:52.13 | |Jelly| | Because screw being a cow .. forever |
| 19:52.17 | nevcairiel | related, can worgen be shamans? |
| 19:52.21 | tem | I wonder if I got a pending faction change on my DK |
| 19:52.27 | tem | and copied him |
| 19:52.40 | tem | would I have a pending faction change on the beta realm? |
| 19:52.48 | tem | and could I then cancel the faction change on live |
| 19:53.01 | tem | (getting my money back) |
| 19:53.41 | nevcairiel | are addons still off in the beta? |
| 19:54.16 | tem|afk | yea |
| 19:54.16 | nevcairiel | doesn't really make sense to hand out addon author invites while addons are off, now does it? :| |
| 19:54.27 | NightHawkTheSane | not really :\ |
| 19:54.45 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 19:54.55 | NightHawkTheSane | which means i'm generally stuck sacrificing virgins. |
| 19:55.16 | nevcairiel | although my logic would suggest that we could do all the exploring and shit now, and when the addons are unlocked, focus all energy on that :p |
| 19:55.20 | cog|work | nevcairiel: http://cogwheel.info/wow/McRun.html imo |
| 19:55.25 | cog|work | ;) |
| 19:56.37 | nevcairiel | I was actually thinking about that possibility just today |
| 19:56.59 | nevcairiel | But without being able to run the addon to store it in there, it seems like too much work :p |
| 19:57.01 | NightHawkTheSane | out of curiosity, what (if anything) do you use it for, cog|work ? |
| 19:57.11 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: CogsBar |
| 19:58.10 | nicoli_s | thats pretty sweet cog|work |
| 19:58.36 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702202208&sid=2000&pageNo=3#46 |
| 19:58.41 | NightHawkTheSane | neat |
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| 20:09.06 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: no need to waste virgins like that, i'll take them |
| 20:09.26 | Dagmar | It's only a matter of time before someone mods that into McFap--a mechanism for storing your porn on the wow servers in the form of encoded macros |
| 20:09.48 | frontendloader | you guys |
| 20:09.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Moonwitch (~Kelly@d51A4DB5F.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:09.59 | |Jelly| | Sounds interesting enough |
| 20:10.11 | frontendloader | writing addons-in-a-macro /sigh |
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| 20:15.59 | Kraps | hey Lunessa http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2010/07/okay_kids_play_on_my_lawn.html |
| 20:18.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: i once saw a implementation of mode 7 rendering in wow.. we could totally get mode 7 porn. |
| 20:18.50 | mikma | cog|work: code us something useful! liek, new coding platform ingame that doesnt eat ace3 as breakfast |
| 20:19.52 | kd3 | Pytlask, it's worked just fine |
| 20:19.58 | kd3 | I've been in since the first alpha build |
| 20:20.05 | |Jelly| | gives kd3 the mad face. |
| 20:20.08 | Pytlask | cheers |
| 20:20.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'm off for home, y'all have an awesome Beta weekend! |
| 20:20.27 | Lopeppeppy | waves buh-bye. |
| 20:20.27 | NightHawkTheSane | later peppy. |
| 20:20.30 | |Jelly| | Have a good one! /hug |
| 20:20.36 | alestane | *huggles* |
| 20:21.52 | |Jelly| | http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8935/betascreenp.jpg <-- seeing that makes me mad and jealous. :( |
| 20:22.58 | Cide | so you are hiding the title of wrath? |
| 20:23.39 | |Jelly| | Well, that's actually where their account name would go. |
| 20:23.56 | Cide | ah yes, you are correct |
| 20:24.04 | |Jelly| | But considering it's [obviously] not mine, I'm not sure what they're all wanting to hide since the whole battle.net change. |
| 20:24.07 | Cide | was trying to verify but battle.net was slow |
| 20:25.41 | DWSR | NHTS: pix or GTFO |
| 20:26.24 | Lunessa | Kraps: At least he sacked up and said he was wrong. |
| 20:29.16 | Kraps | he still believes that hes right, just that he shouldnt have give his opinion on what he doesnt know |
| 20:29.28 | nicoli_s | that screen makes me pissed blizz hasnt activated our press keys yet :( |
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| 20:30.02 | Dagmar | Lunessa: because he is Captain Obvious |
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| 20:30.48 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I've disliked the man since the 70s. |
| 20:31.22 | Dagmar | I find it somewhat amusing that he has a new, mechanical voice, and every day fewer and fewer people could give a shit about what he has to say |
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| 20:31.54 | Dagmar | I also think he has a completely jackass idea of what constitutes art |
| 20:32.13 | Dagmar | "blah blah blah leading to _one_ inexorable conclusion blah blah" |
| 20:32.38 | Lunessa | Hey, he's been getting paid to blow hot hair and spout his critiques of all things film for nearly 4 decades. But shit still smells, no matter how talented the shoveler. |
| 20:38.13 | Kraps | his review of Kick-Ass was laughable |
| 20:39.39 | |Jelly| | Kick-Ass was win. Just sayin |
| 20:41.05 | nicoli_s | i hear it was good, but i hate nick cage so much |
| 20:41.23 | nicoli_s | i mean he let his own son go off to the mortal kombat tournament and get killed! |
| 20:45.51 | malreth | grrrwwwaaahhh! Adobe's "silent" and "unintended" installer for CS4 doesn't work if it's run from the command line. WTF!?! |
| 20:46.19 | Lunessa | seriously? |
| 20:47.29 | malreth | yeah... this puts a kink in my zero-touch deployment routine |
| 20:47.30 | DWSR | lolwut? |
| 20:49.23 | malreth | sorry... i'll revise my statement... the "silent" and "unintended" installer doesn't work from the command line if it cannot connect to the windowserver on OS X |
| 20:50.21 | malreth | since i disable the loginwindow during deployment, the adobe cs4 installer hangs... forever |
| 20:50.34 | DWSR | iLolled. |
| 20:50.40 | NightHawkTheSane | go go adobe. |
| 20:51.09 | malreth | but if i enable the loginwindow, it opens the possibility of some student walking up to a lab machine mid-deployment, logging in, and disrupting the entire process |
| 20:51.15 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: is there an embedded pkg or something you can use? |
| 20:51.37 | malreth | nope... adobe's installer is entirely custom made |
| 20:51.46 | NightHawkTheSane | buh. fuck adobe. |
| 20:53.10 | airtonix | and your mother |
| 20:53.20 | |Jelly| | that's hot |
| 20:54.17 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: can you set a scary message on the loginwindow? like "update in progress, do not log in or I will find you and rape your dog" |
| 20:56.09 | malreth | NightHawkTheSane: our previous lab management software that we used would take over the screen, black it out entirely, and have orange and green text that bounces around saying that the machine was reserved for repairs and to use another computer. keyboard and mouse were disabled and that's all you could do is look at that message. |
| 20:56.16 | malreth | it never stopped people from trying to log in |
| 20:56.53 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: but with a warning message, you have an excuse to suspend their accounts for your trouble! :D |
| 20:57.16 | malreth | NightHawkTheSane: or to rape their dogs |
| 20:57.38 | malreth | but if you're interested in that kind of shit, there's a new Twilight movie, i hear |
| 20:57.59 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 20:58.13 | malreth | i lied... i don't think they rape any dogs in that story |
| 20:58.30 | malreth | just reason and sensibility |
| 20:59.24 | Lunessa | and taste |
| 21:03.58 | malreth | on that note... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd-21k_BSFQ |
| 21:04.15 | malreth | i managed to get bella killed by a bat... ironically |
| 21:04.38 | Lunessa | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65S3R120100629 |
| 21:11.25 | Fisker | seriously |
| 21:11.33 | Fisker | the WoW developement team should grow up |
| 21:11.34 | Fisker | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/tofera/weird.jpg |
| 21:11.41 | Fisker | drawing penises in the landscape is not funny |
| 21:12.27 | NightHawkTheSane | you lol'd. |
| 21:12.40 | Fisker | LOL Blizzard |
| 21:12.47 | Fister | lol lol lol |
| 21:12.50 | Fisker | Australia is regionlocked into south asia |
| 21:13.03 | Fisker | i think even region locking it into australia itself would've been a better choice |
| 21:13.13 | Fisker | actually i'm quite sure it would've |
| 21:14.46 | Lunessa | Blizzard has been drawing wangs in the terrain for a long time. |
| 21:17.13 | Fisker | btw Lunessa |
| 21:17.16 | Fisker | lets all agree |
| 21:17.17 | Lunessa | http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb232/Donma_2007/WoWScrnShot_070108_004259.jpg |
| 21:17.34 | Fisker | Blizzard should've fixed the issue with DBW removing the offhand when it procs rather than implement Real ID |
| 21:17.37 | Fisker | right? |
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| 21:17.59 | Lunessa | waiting for Fisker to STFU so I can drink twice. |
| 21:18.10 | Fisker | RIGHT? |
| 21:18.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: drink twice anyway. |
| 21:18.26 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Good idea. |
| 21:18.31 | Lunessa | drinks twice. |
| 21:18.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm full of good ideas. |
| 21:18.38 | Fisker | RIGHT? |
| 21:18.41 | NightHawkTheSane | most of them involve alcohol, though. |
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| 21:19.01 | Fisker | RIIIIIIIGHT? |
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| 21:19.18 | cog|work | LEEEEEFTT |
| 21:19.38 | Fisker | no cog|work |
| 21:19.42 | Fisker | unless you beta me |
| 21:20.37 | NightHawkTheSane | FROOOOOOOOONT |
| 21:20.56 | Lunessa | http://notalwaysright.com/those-who-have-impotence-will-never-lose-their-flower/6014 |
| 21:22.16 | Fisker | right NightHawkTheSane ? |
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| 21:25.40 | alestane | Lunessa, http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-18257.html |
| 21:25.56 | Lunessa | Yeah, I laughed. |
| 21:31.05 | Fisker | lying fail |
| 21:33.26 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626286907&sid=1 - You know what? I have better things to do with my time than help asshats. |
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| 21:49.30 | alestane | When the first thing someone tells you is that they know for sure that all your suggestions are wrong and the problem "has got to be" something else, there's usually not much you can do for them anyway. |
| 21:50.58 | Lunessa | I deal with that shit at work all day long. I don't need that crap where I volunteer. |
| 21:51.57 | Lunessa | Frankly, if I was getting paid to put up with that, I might be nicer. But I'm not, and they can blow it out their rectum. |
| 21:52.07 | alestane | Metalgirl there is too busy hoping s/he can rub Blizzard's nose in the fact that they messed something up to consider that the problem might be between the keyboard and the chair. |
| 21:52.50 | Lunessa | I love how I'm told that I'm wrong. Um hello? Have you read the macro parsing code? Really? I have. |
| 21:53.56 | Lunessa | *shrug* I even know how to help them. But I'm not going to. It's not worth my time or effort to get past the chip on their shoulder. |
| 21:54.51 | Maldivia | http://i.imgur.com/LUyuR.jpg :P |
| 21:56.13 | Lunessa | lol |
| 21:56.39 | mikma | lunessa: I DEMAND YOU FIX IT NOW! |
| 22:00.40 | Lunessa | mikma: blow it out your rectum. |
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| 22:01.03 | Dagmar | Damn forum kids get dumber every day |
| 22:01.31 | |Jelly| | Go Team Jacob? |
| 22:01.35 | Dagmar | Some noob complaining that he's gearing up in 10-mans and trying to get BiS, but the BiS costs him hit rating and he doesn't have any way to get that back. |
| 22:01.44 | Lunessa | I'm out. See you all later. |
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| 22:02.04 | mikma | lunessa: when you have a diarrhea, what do you do? open floodgates or go drop by drop? |
| 22:02.13 | Dagmar | 20 gem slots, amd gosh no way to get more +hit |
| 22:02.31 | mikma | aww s/he/male left |
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| 22:08.36 | ZorbaTHut | it's not like that's literally what gems are for or anything |
| 22:09.02 | Kraps | |Jelly|: yes, Go Team Jacob |
| 22:09.15 | mikma | but, but, you lose AP!! (or sp, whatevah) |
| 22:09.22 | |Jelly| | Actually, I'm all about "Go Team Eric!" [from TrueBlood] |
| 22:09.23 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: Yeah. I don't know what the guy is thinking |
| 22:09.39 | Dagmar | ...although it's probably "why did I post this on my main?" |
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| 22:10.23 | mikma | lal |
| 22:10.50 | mikma | creating a new char and leveling it to 80 is refreshing, you will start to see the stats in another direction |
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| 22:14.01 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/833747-penis-cucumber-saved-from-the-chop |
| 22:14.42 | Dagmar | I ain't pullin' that up. |
| 22:14.42 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, it's uh.. probably not entirely sfw (although it really is just a.. curiously.. shaped cucumber) |
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| 22:14.51 | Dagmar | I could careless whether or not it's SFW. |
| 22:15.09 | Dagmar | You've got "penis" and "the chop" in the same URL. |
| 22:15.11 | Dagmar | No. |
| 22:15.14 | NightHawkTheSane | hee |
| 22:15.22 | NightHawkTheSane | but saved! |
| 22:15.29 | NightHawkTheSane | SAVED from the chop! |
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| 22:16.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Moonwitch! |
| 22:16.41 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/833747-penis-cucumber-saved-from-the-chop |
| 22:17.36 | Moonwitch | lol NightHawkTheSane |
| 22:17.41 | Moonwitch | you thought of me I take it? |
| 22:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | no, you just happened to show up |
| 22:19.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar wouldn't look at it :P |
| 22:19.59 | Dagmar | Just think of me as a jew that doesn' find oven jokes funny |
| 22:20.22 | Kraps | how do i "run as admin" anything, like a text file? |
| 22:20.59 | Dagmar | Kraps: Make it an executable (like a batch file) then right clik it, Compatibility tab, check Run this as Adminstrator, Accept |
| 22:25.38 | mikma | kraps: 'sudo do stuff' |
| 22:26.05 | mikma | like: sudo wall penis penis penis lol |
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| 22:30.18 | Kyahx | Does anyone know about a bug with tiled textures? |
| 22:30.23 | mikma | lol kyahx in the house |
| 22:30.29 | Kyahx | Holas |
| 22:31.28 | mikma | kyahx: RogueTimers.MainHand:GetStatusBarTexture():SetHorizTile(false) |
| 22:31.29 | Kyahx | Im trying to tile a texture across the entire screen -- the top "row" (128px) looks fine, but everything below just looks likestriped garbage :( |
| 22:32.09 | Kyahx | This is just a regular frame, not a status bar |
| 22:32.34 | mikma | same thing |
| 22:32.36 | mikma | RogueTimers.MainHand = CreateFrame("StatusBar", nil, UIParent) |
| 22:32.36 | mikma | RogueTimers.MainHand:SetStatusBarTexture("Interface\\TargetingFrame\\UI-StatusBar") |
| 22:32.39 | mikma | RogueTimers.MainHand:GetStatusBarTexture():SetHorizTile(false) |
| 22:32.43 | mikma | in that order |
| 22:32.50 | mikma | and tiling is gone |
| 22:33.03 | Kyahx | I want the texture to tile thou |
| 22:33.14 | Kyahx | It just dosent tile properly |
| 22:33.45 | mikma | poke shadowed then |
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| 22:35.30 | Kyahx | http://i48.tinypic.com/2vdo9y9.jpg -- see the top film-grain liked textue, thats how its suppose to look. but everything below gets stretched into crap :( |
| 22:36.56 | |Jelly| | wishes Lunessa here so he could say iDon't have that problem. |
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| 22:39.04 | Dagmar | SURFS UP! |
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| 22:42.13 | Dagmar | Kyahx: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord |
| 22:42.33 | Kyahx | Im not sure what I try to do with that command |
| 22:42.55 | Dagmar | Well, the bottom of your image isn't being stretched... It's last line is merely being repeated over and over. |
| 22:43.09 | Dagmar | I'm thinking you didn't tell WoW you want to actually stretch the image |
| 22:43.12 | Kyahx | I dont want it to stretch at all |
| 22:43.14 | Kyahx | I want it to tile |
| 22:43.26 | Dagmar | Hmmm |
| 22:43.37 | Kyahx | Its just white noise to simulate a film grain effect |
| 22:44.15 | amro | Kyahx: what size is the texture? |
| 22:44.18 | Dagmar | Then you want http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexture as well |
| 22:44.30 | Dagmar | There's a bool you have to set |
| 22:44.37 | Kyahx | 256x256 I believe |
| 22:44.43 | mikma | lol you are coding something cool again |
| 22:45.11 | DWSR | mmmm |
| 22:45.11 | DWSR | splitty. |
| 22:45.18 | ScytheBlade1 | so in speaking with comcast |
| 22:45.33 | ScytheBlade1 | it seems they had an area near here several years back where they had a huge amount of signal leaking out |
| 22:45.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I never knew what that meant until they told me that airliner pilots were picking up HBO over that area |
| 22:45.49 | amro | Kyahx: it looks like tex coords aren't set right |
| 22:45.51 | Dagmar | Now the EPA is after them for the cleanup? |
| 22:46.04 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: *shudder* |
| 22:46.05 | amro | what you want to do is set to a multiple of 1 how many times you want it to tile, at the edges |
| 22:46.22 | amro | 8.0, 8.0 would be 8x8 tiling |
| 22:46.49 | Kyahx | Right now im just using a backdrop -- will i have to make a texture instead? |
| 22:47.29 | amro | I dunno if you can control the texcoords of a backdrop |
| 22:47.39 | amro | but you can with a texture, see Dagmar's link above |
| 22:47.40 | mikma | kyahx: tell me nao, what is the frame in the middle and what are you coding? |
| 22:48.01 | Kyahx | mikma: the bars in the middle? thats my unit frame |
| 22:48.10 | mikma | kinky. |
| 22:48.24 | mikma | better than the p3lim crap |
| 22:48.35 | Kyahx | its just oUF_Phanx :P |
| 22:48.38 | Kyahx | I didnt even write that |
| 22:48.46 | Kyahx | well, modified it, but that dosent count |
| 22:48.57 | Dagmar | We need an addon that randomly covers the screen with fingers and does a raidwarning text of "GUESS WHO?" while in combat |
| 22:49.33 | mikma | dagmar: have you seen my Joo Janta ... addon? ;) |
| 22:50.03 | Dagmar | mikma: Oh.. YES actually |
| 22:50.05 | Dagmar | It's hilarious |
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| 22:50.46 | mikma | dagmar: cairenn added it in wowi's funny addons contest, and i won a dragon kite with it =D |
| 22:50.54 | Dagmar | It's worth it |
| 22:52.40 | mikma | i think we need a "bad oneliner" addon too, it would play the "dun dun duuuun" after boss screams something stupid |
| 22:53.12 | Dagmar | Heck, if you just called that skeletal windserpent boss a fag, most people who watch south park would get it |
| 22:53.14 | mikma | oh, reminds me of the time i changed tank music from left 4 dead into benny hill theme |
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| 22:54.22 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/l4d/Benny_Hill_tankmusic.zip |
| 22:54.26 | Dagmar | I've been sitting here trying to think up a snarky one |
| 22:55.46 | Dagmar | I suppose a Chuck Norris mod for a player to use to send chuck norris jokes to trade (but in actuality, only shows YOU the joke while actually saying to /2 "I am a pathetic twit.") prolly falls under "malicious" addon |
| 22:56.26 | |Jelly| | That's epic |
| 22:57.36 | Dagmar | Wait... random fart emotes. |
| 22:58.00 | Dagmar | ...now to think of some thin justification for why that happens as an undocumented side effect. |
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| 23:01.24 | DWSR | Dagmar: I don't know if the Chuck Norris idea would be malicious |
| 23:02.07 | Dagmar | On the theory that claims to the user that it will say "chuck norris facts" in trade, but instead does something else childish and mean to them? |
| 23:02.15 | Dagmar | Seems malicious to me. |
| 23:02.45 | Dagmar | If I can work backwards from "what the hell is making my toon fart!" I will probably be son safer ground tho |
| 23:03.27 | Dagmar | People find the strangest things to be malicious. |
| 23:03.49 | Dagmar | I used to have a lil tsr that would every so often, move a randomly selected desktop icon one pixel in a random direction. |
| 23:04.23 | taroven | I'm really starting to wonder when blizzard will stop screwing around with the UI's texture display... Anyone know how to make statusbar textures clip instead of shrink/grow when being resized? |
| 23:04.56 | Dagmar | One of those two API links I pasted earlier |
| 23:05.10 | taroven | Wasn't around for 'em. |
| 23:05.15 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 23:05.38 | taroven | Need to remember sometime to start xchat with ye olde OS. |
| 23:06.06 | Dagmar | Far as I know http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord looks like the thing |
| 23:06.12 | taroven | Ew. |
| 23:06.20 | taroven | Ew, ew ew. |
| 23:06.32 | Dagmar | The first form isn't that bd |
| 23:06.34 | Dagmar | er bad |
| 23:06.41 | cog|away | yay wine |
| 23:06.58 | cog|away | goes to taste our upcoming release |
| 23:07.18 | taroven | Don't get me wrong Dagmar, I've got the math figured out for settexcoord, but I do NOT want to hook OnValueChanged or place extra function calls in my onupdate scripts. |
| 23:07.26 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 23:07.58 | taroven | That's just way too much cpu usage. |
| 23:08.07 | Kyahx | Creating a texture should cause any taint issues should it? |
| 23:08.15 | Kyahx | IE using the WorldFrame to create the texture |
| 23:08.28 | taroven | Generally no. |
| 23:08.32 | Kyahx | shouldn't cause* |
| 23:08.35 | Kyahx | mmk |
| 23:09.00 | taroven | EventHorizon creates textures on the fly if none are available for recycling, never had a problem there. |
| 23:09.31 | taroven | The code's not too bad if you're doing something like that, I can point you to the lines in question if you're curious. |
| 23:18.51 | Thunder_Child | ..... W T F http://notalwaysright.com/must-be-a-missed-steak/6017 |
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| 23:28.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: new product idea, meat fries. |
| 23:28.58 | NightHawkTheSane | wait, thats bacon. n/m. |
| 23:29.54 | DWSR | push button. |
| 23:29.56 | DWSR | Receive bacon |
| 23:29.57 | DWSR | ??? |
| 23:29.58 | DWSR | profit. |
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| 23:38.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I hearby declare that bacon be now known as "Meat fries" |
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| 23:44.43 | cbreak | you know, you can eat bacon without frying |
| 23:44.54 | NightHawkTheSane | you can eat potatoes without frying, too. |
| 23:45.48 | cbreak | yes. but you don't call potato "potato fries". |
| 23:46.00 | cbreak | just fried potatoes :) |
| 23:47.01 | smcn | you call them french fries because they're made out of french people |
| 23:47.06 | NightHawkTheSane | cbreak: sure, but meat fries sounds freaking awesome. |
| 23:47.27 | cbreak | because they are frenched |
| 23:47.32 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: check my TA |
| 23:48.28 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: http://chubbyhubby.net/blog/?p=579 meat fries |
| 23:49.03 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man that looks delicious. |
| 23:51.45 | Thunder_Child | really? hmm...not to me |
| 23:55.54 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: like suishi? |
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| 23:59.34 | alestane | Well, homemade Thai buffalo coconut shrimp were a reasonably successful experiment. |
