| 00:00.39 | Dagmar | I wouldn't. I think gin is pretty nasty flavored. |
| 00:01.03 | Fisker | it's cold here Dagmar |
| 00:01.13 | Fisker | brrrcold |
| 00:01.38 | Dagmar | A whole *keg* of it would likely be homebrew, which is almost guaranteed to be of the "Extra Awful"-flavored variety. |
| 00:01.51 | Lunessa | Dagmar: yeah. |
| 00:02.08 | Dagmar | A number of people brought various homebrew liquor to Phreaknic last year. |
| 00:02.16 | Dagmar | I think most of them will probably not repeat that. |
| 00:02.45 | Dagmar | Simply knowing science and scientific method well is apparently *not* enough to get decent-tasting hooch. |
| 00:03.02 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Making good hootch is an art form. |
| 00:03.10 | Dagmar | At least when I buy a bottle of Clear Springs I know what I'm getting into |
| 00:03.35 | Lunessa | has tried a lot of hootch looking for "good stuff" |
| 00:03.57 | Fisker | haste |
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| 00:04.43 | Dagmar | The homebrew gin I think was probably not as bad as the rest, but it may be because I've yet to have any *good* tasting gin so the bar is pretty low |
| 00:04.43 | jadakren | http://jayisgames.com/games/i-dont-even-game/ |
| 00:05.02 | Kraps | Adys: how do you get an old client? |
| 00:05.16 | Adys | By having it |
| 00:05.25 | Adys | I even have an alpha client |
| 00:05.37 | Adys | shit |
| 00:05.46 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Actually, I've had some /decent/ gin. |
| 00:06.03 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I just added and committed a bunch of files i don't want here (pyc files), how do i get rid of them? |
| 00:06.08 | Adys | without a new commit |
| 00:06.14 | Kraps | Adys: doesnt it update? |
| 00:06.25 | Adys | update what? |
| 00:06.52 | Kraps | the client! |
| 00:07.01 | Adys | then dont login? :P |
| 00:07.18 | Kraps | so how do you play? |
| 00:07.31 | Adys | ... with a different one |
| 00:08.25 | Kraps | how do you get screenies of old stuff if you dont log in? |
| 00:08.34 | Adys | erm |
| 00:08.39 | Adys | i took this screenshot years ago :P |
| 00:08.54 | Adys | some of us have been playing wow for a long time yknow! |
| 00:09.49 | Kraps | i thought you had an old client right now.... |
| 00:09.53 | Adys | I do |
| 00:10.11 | jadakren | <Adys> World of Warcraft 1.1.2 (enGB).7z |
| 00:10.27 | jadakren | care to explain ? |
| 00:10.37 | Adys | .. i have a lot of disk space? |
| 00:10.39 | Adys | whats the issue? |
| 00:10.58 | WobWork | DON'T JUDGE ADYS =( |
| 00:12.38 | Adys | WoW Alpha US, WoW Closed Beta EU, WoW Closed Beta US, WoW 1.1.2 EU, WoW 1.1.2 US, TBC Alpha US, TBC Closed Beta EU, TBC Closed Beta US, WLK Alpha US, WLK Alpha EU, WLK Beta US, WLK Beta EU, PTR 3.0.8 US & EU, CC F&F US, CC F&F EU |
| 00:12.50 | Adys | Live US and EU with every language pack except russian |
| 00:12.53 | Adys | and a trial client |
| 00:13.05 | Fisker | why not russian? |
| 00:13.11 | Fisker | i'm disappoint |
| 00:13.12 | Adys | because ive no idea where to get it |
| 00:13.18 | jadakren | lol |
| 00:14.26 | Adys | maybe one day I'll make some museum out of this shit |
| 00:14.57 | jadakren | using see through hdds with glass platters? |
| 00:15.13 | Adys | theres pretty much wow's entire lifetime plus hundreds of different patches |
| 00:19.39 | Kraps | 537 resil |
| 00:20.27 | Kraps | Adys: WHY? |
| 00:20.37 | Adys | ? |
| 00:21.05 | Adys | why what Kraps ? |
| 00:21.27 | Kraps | why do you have all that shit? |
| 00:21.29 | jadakren | why does anything crap? |
| 00:21.48 | Adys | because.. its fun? |
| 00:21.51 | Dagmar | They're shipping *netbooks* with 250Gb hard drives in them. Space is *cheap* |
| 00:21.52 | Adys | i make use of it? |
| 00:21.57 | Adys | i parse shit, i see how the game evolves? |
| 00:22.37 | Kraps | Adys: in that case i demand screenshots |
| 00:22.40 | Adys | i learn from blizzard's mistakes as a game developer myself and learn more about a game i like |
| 00:22.46 | Adys | screenshots of what? :P |
| 00:23.16 | Adys | i parse sql-like tables, so if you want to see grids of data feel free to ask |
| 00:24.19 | Kraps | just stuff. i like seeing how the game looked back then. wow.com was starting a series on that but they suddenly stopped after one article |
| 00:25.05 | Adys | unzips the alpha client |
| 00:25.17 | Dagmar | Probably too busy going back to pillage dungeons they'd forgotten about |
| 00:26.08 | Kraps | i love reading posts about how vanilla was |
| 00:27.42 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/607680984 |
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| 00:45.10 | Adys | hehe |
| 00:45.15 | Adys | Kraps, you wanna have a laugh? |
| 00:45.31 | Adys | i found this in my archives |
| 00:45.39 | Adys | I completely disagree with ireynoso. I think the challenge of the game exists independent of death penalty. If you think the game has no challenge, try doing Pyrewood at night, or Shadowfang Keep at all. The challenge is using what you have at your disposal to defeat powerful monsters, not to grind xp safely against mobs that pose no real challenge. |
| 00:45.41 | Adys | In my opinion, death penalties do two things. First, they punish the adventerous, and reward the grinder. The optimum method of getting xp becomes fighting monsters slightly lower than yourself, never exploring, and never trying anything new. When you add a death penalty, that kind of behavior is heavily rewarded, while challenging and adventerous behavior is punished. |
| 00:45.47 | Adys | Second, you frustrate the player, frequently when he dies due to things outside of his control. I just died when the server crashed. I've died previously when other people aggro too many mobs and die at my feet, still within their normal wander area, or when my phone rings, or when we have plain bad luck on respawn. Punishing all of these things serve only to piss the player off. |
| 00:45.54 | Adys | I've had more fun playing WoW than I've had playing any previous game, and a lot of that has to do with the fact that there is no death penalty. The game plays like a GAME, not like a job, not like a duty, not like any kind of investment or obligation. The lack of a death penalty is an integral part of that - it creates a feel of adventerousness, riskiness, and general relaxed fun. |
| 00:46.02 | Adys | </spam> |
| 00:46.20 | daev` | on that note |
| 00:46.25 | daev` | I miss the original scholomance |
| 00:47.11 | kd3 | I don't |
| 00:47.17 | kd3 | going in there as a /raid/ and still wiping? |
| 00:47.21 | kd3 | bad, bad instance |
| 00:47.25 | Adys | I miss the original BRD |
| 00:47.30 | Adys | ... OH WAIT THEY NEVER FIXED IT |
| 00:47.54 | Jerub | Adys: hahahahahahaha |
| 00:47.57 | Dagmar | Never fixed it how? |
| 00:48.03 | Jerub | Adys: I can clear BRD in 2 hour. |
| 00:48.10 | daev` | Raid made it tougher imo |
| 00:48.19 | daev` | because it was so packed that more people would just cause more problems lol |
| 00:48.30 | Dagmar | I've been in there with level-appropriate people, all of us *high as bats* and we cleared it |
| 00:50.40 | Jerub | the thing that's a terror at the moment is LBRS |
| 00:51.40 | Jerub | because the combination of LFD and people who haven't been inside BRS since vanilla and noobs who've never been there means that people do /UBRS/ instead of /LBRS/ because there's no way of knowing that's what you're doing. |
| 00:51.59 | Jerub | i.e. there's no lore, no signs, no flavour text, to know that you're not doing the instance you queued for. |
| 00:53.14 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 00:53.21 | Fisker | kådettræ |
| 00:53.29 | kd3 | hm |
| 00:55.27 | Fisker | today i'm using computars kd3 |
| 00:55.42 | kd3 | taking a step back from ircing with your mind? |
| 00:57.26 | Fisker | yeah i don't have wifi connectivity |
| 00:58.04 | Jerub | man, facebook is awesome |
| 00:58.07 | Jerub | youropenbook.com |
| 00:58.10 | Jerub | er |
| 00:58.12 | Jerub | youropenbook.org |
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| 00:58.37 | Fisker | how is signing you up for facebook a present? |
| 00:59.24 | Fisker | Robert Micevski SSHHH!!! Don't tell anyone I'm comming back to sydney thursday night.... :D |
| 00:59.27 | Zyn | it's rape |
| 00:59.32 | Fisker | herpty dertpy? |
| 01:00.29 | Fisker | Michael Gaydos There should be a DNA test to see if you have the stupidity gene before being aloud to fill out an Affidavit of Complaint |
| 01:00.30 | Fisker | snap? |
| 01:01.38 | Zyn | bit of irony there |
| 01:01.42 | Fisker | this is hilarious Jerub |
| 01:01.44 | Fisker | now i can't sleep |
| 01:01.47 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 01:04.42 | Zyn | "Bradley White getting a blowjob friday!!!" |
| 01:04.47 | Zyn | good that you have it planned, buddy |
| 01:06.32 | Fisker | ask him what his name is |
| 01:06.35 | Fisker | snaaaaap |
| 01:07.19 | WobWork | hm, can't connect |
| 01:07.21 | WobWork | alas |
| 01:09.40 | alestane | Argghhh...okay, reinstalling Civ 3 was a mistake. |
| 01:09.41 | Zyn | searching for Heil Hitler gives all kinds of wierd people |
| 01:09.45 | Zyn | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 01:12.27 | Cloudwolf | you think? |
| 01:12.57 | Thunder_Child | alestane: a bit addicting eh? |
| 01:13.14 | alestane | Just spent four hours fascinated with I don't even know what. |
| 01:13.24 | Thunder_Child | with pixles |
| 01:13.30 | Thunder_Child | pixels* |
| 01:14.07 | alestane | No, pixels are boring. Fascination is an emergent property. |
| 01:14.44 | WobWork | alestane: Baba yetu, yetu uliye mbinguni yetu, yetu, amina! |
| 01:14.50 | WobWork | oh wait, that's Civ4 |
| 01:15.55 | Lunessa | alestane: Now you know why I have removed it from all of my home computers. I'd NEVER get anything else done. |
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| 01:16.55 | alestane | That game was a bollix job anyway though, spent WAY too much time at war with the germans. |
| 01:17.06 | Dagmar | Don't we all |
| 01:18.18 | WobWork | Who are you afraid of?! ZE GHERMANZ??! |
| 01:21.57 | Lunessa | WobWork: Ya liake dags don't yae? |
| 01:22.39 | WobWork | Lunessa: Me Mah's fonda perihwhinkal bluu |
| 01:22.51 | Lunessa | A parkee says wut? |
| 01:23.16 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 01:23.51 | Adys | Kraps: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/alpha1.jpg |
| 01:23.57 | Adys | some people need to look at me with a straight face |
| 01:24.02 | Adys | and tell me the wow graphics never evolved |
| 01:24.03 | Adys | :P |
| 01:24.11 | Adys | this is with very high settings btw |
| 01:25.29 | Cloudwolf | O.o |
| 01:25.33 | Cloudwolf | where was taht supposed to be of? |
| 01:25.43 | Adys | north of westfall |
| 01:25.55 | Cloudwolf | also adys who do you have to sleep witht o get alpha acess and then beta acess XD |
| 01:26.22 | Adys | oh no, I wasnt around by then |
| 01:26.31 | Adys | i was in wow by early betas thats as far as it goes |
| 01:26.32 | Lunessa | WobWork: No Tommy, I'm not saying you can't shoot. I know you can't shoot. I'm saying that six-pound piece of shit stuck in your trousers would do more damage if you fed it to him. |
| 01:27.18 | Cloudwolf | yes but adys you had alpha and beta for BC and WOTLK |
| 01:27.29 | Cloudwolf | and can only assume the same will come for cata for you |
| 01:27.44 | WobWork | I'm totally cleaning up in my guild ICC10 runs... I've been twice, and already replaced gloves, boots, belt, neck and staff |
| 01:27.57 | WobWork | Lunessa: And we can't have -that-, can we boys? |
| 01:28.08 | Lunessa | I fucking love that movie. |
| 01:28.14 | Adys | i got lucky Cloudwolf |
| 01:28.20 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 01:28.34 | Cloudwolf | only beta ive gotten is sc2 now >.> :D |
| 01:28.38 | alestane | Which movie? |
| 01:28.39 | Dagmar | Actually, he knows tricks. |
| 01:28.39 | Cloudwolf | i just want the map editor to come out though |
| 01:28.47 | Lunessa | alestane: "Snatch" |
| 01:28.58 | Dagmar | ...things other women with more self-respect will refuse to do. |
| 01:29.05 | Lunessa | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208092/ |
| 01:29.16 | Dagmar | ...mainly because they've never heard of them, but still. |
| 01:29.42 | Lunessa | alestane: If you haven't seen it, rent that bad boy. |
| 01:29.54 | Cloudwolf | I find it strange that i got sc2 beta access lots of people have it due to preordering >.> i did no such thing |
| 01:30.07 | Cloudwolf | and considering theres only like 2 months till release |
| 01:31.04 | alestane | Sounds comedic. |
| 01:31.39 | Lunessa | alestane: It's a british crime drama dark comedy |
| 01:31.50 | kd3 | snatch? fucking hilarious movie |
| 01:31.58 | kd3 | so is 'lock, stock and two smoking barrels.' |
| 01:32.08 | Adys | you know |
| 01:32.09 | Lunessa | Same writer/director |
| 01:32.22 | Adys | using these alpha clients makes you aware of how much you take for granted nowadays |
| 01:32.31 | Adys | such as good player controls |
| 01:32.57 | Cloudwolf | do go on |
| 01:33.03 | Adys | very, VERY simple stuff, suck as duo-click to move the camera |
| 01:33.03 | WobWork | kd3: indeed =) |
| 01:33.07 | Adys | or jumping in the water |
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| 01:33.17 | WobWork | heheh |
| 01:33.22 | Amarande | lol, if Blizzard meant for Grizzly Hills to be a world PvP area, they kinda missed the mark :) |
| 01:33.27 | Cloudwolf | XD how did you get outa the water |
| 01:33.27 | WobWork | some mmos haven't even gotten the concept of -jumping- |
| 01:33.34 | Amarande | I just did both most of the Venture Bay and Blue Sky Logging dailies |
| 01:33.44 | Amarande | and ... barely saw any alliance at all, like one person at each and they ignored me |
| 01:33.48 | Amarande | Wob: like GW? :) |
| 01:33.54 | WobWork | Amarande: hehe yeah =) |
| 01:34.02 | WobWork | although GW2 is supposed to have it! |
| 01:34.03 | Lunessa | Amarande: I think they basically meant to give people a taste is all |
| 01:34.20 | WobWork | I mean, what is a healer going to -do- if they can't jump while bored? |
| 01:34.28 | WobWork | Trees everywhere will look.. planted =( |
| 01:34.34 | Cloudwolf | the only thing that jumping does for me in wow is maybe be able to bypass a slight area or an instant casting interupt |
| 01:34.35 | Jerub | WobWork: did i tell you how i did BFD the other night? |
| 01:35.09 | WobWork | Cloudwolf: you clearly haven't played a tree druid or a disc priest =) |
| 01:35.20 | WobWork | Jerub: how did you do BFD the other night? |
| 01:35.21 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 01:35.32 | Cloudwolf | oh i jump for boredom |
| 01:35.33 | Jerub | WobWork: my shaman had the hunter on follow, i only had enough of my (windowed) wow client visible to see my grid, and the new doctor who episode was /awesome/. |
| 01:35.39 | Cloudwolf | or that one wheel in DM's to agro drop |
| 01:35.48 | WobWork | Jerub: lol |
| 01:36.04 | Adys | or a fucking print function |
| 01:36.09 | Adys | how could the game go 3 years without print() |
| 01:36.13 | Adys | er |
| 01:36.16 | Adys | 4 years? |
| 01:36.16 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 01:36.24 | Adys | technically, 6 years |
| 01:36.40 | Cloudwolf | "error dialogue box this is your print" |
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| 01:36.56 | Jerub | (yes, I had to go and manually jump the platforms and then again i had a trouble with a ramp where i got stuck) |
| 01:37.00 | Adys | i dont have DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME either |
| 01:37.09 | Adys | nor a ChatFrame1 |
| 01:37.12 | Adys | nor a ChatFrame |
| 01:37.34 | Adys | oh hey i do have ChatFrame |
| 01:37.56 | Cloudwolf | heh sounds like an addon authors nightmares |
| 01:38.06 | Adys | attempt to call global `pairs' (a nil value) |
| 01:38.07 | Adys | wat |
| 01:38.20 | Amarande | eh, there are some places where jumping is useful |
| 01:38.34 | Amarande | for instance, it lets you bypass almost the whole cave in obsidian dragonshrine if you know what you are doing |
| 01:38.43 | Cloudwolf | how will i ever debug this code with out prints! >.> |
| 01:39.03 | Cloudwolf | amarande see the only thing i see jumping helps is shortcuts/casting interupts/ instance entrances |
| 01:39.13 | Cloudwolf | and a boredom releif |
| 01:39.19 | Amarande | Okay, let's say you HAD code that printed |
| 01:39.33 | Amarande | how would this be different than "send message to X frame"? |
| 01:39.49 | Amarande | print() would probably only amount to a shortcut to send a message to a specific default frame :S |
| 01:39.54 | Cloudwolf | because the print goes to the frames thats currently open? |
| 01:40.10 | Cloudwolf | or im completely wrong and spouting gibberish :D |
| 01:40.15 | Adys | print in wow equals DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME.AddMessage |
| 01:42.19 | Amarande | also ... I'd like to return this [Eternal Life] for a refund ... I seem to die just the same with it as I did without it :| |
| 01:42.59 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 01:43.18 | Cloudwolf | wheres my customized infinant ahnk? |
| 01:43.45 | Adys | god this is buggy. |
| 01:45.00 | Adys | see it puts things in perspective |
| 01:45.11 | Adys | today, "alpha quality" means "the lava looks funky" |
| 01:46.00 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 01:46.04 | Cloudwolf | having fun adys? |
| 01:46.12 | Cloudwolf | hwo can you even run the alpha is it a non online version or something |
| 01:46.23 | Adys | sandboxy thingy |
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| 01:46.31 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 01:46.33 | Adys | i'd waste less time coding a client |
| 01:46.54 | Adys | haha |
| 01:47.06 | Cloudwolf | adys dm exist? |
| 01:47.13 | Cloudwolf | deadmines (not dire maul) |
| 01:47.24 | Adys | the entrance is there, it's completely black inside |
| 01:47.31 | Adys | wmo interiors are bugged |
| 01:47.39 | Adys | not "lava-looks-funky" bugged |
| 01:47.58 | Adys | oh yeah those tga screenshots are fantastic. |
| 01:49.23 | Adys | Kraps: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/alpha2.jpg |
| 01:49.24 | Adys | hehe |
| 01:49.27 | Adys | i remember that |
| 01:49.40 | Adys | back when infernals prevented access. |
| 01:49.51 | WobWork | wow, gadgetzan looks awesome |
| 01:49.59 | Adys | nods |
| 01:50.19 | Cloudwolf | now thats a town! |
| 01:50.21 | Adys | although its just ratchet in the desert :p |
| 01:51.00 | Lunessa | alestane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-0_sL5AAVQ |
| 01:51.07 | Adys | This also puts something else in perspective |
| 01:51.19 | Adys | a lot of this stuff hasnt changed one hair since then |
| 01:52.05 | Adys | you start to think its about damn time theres a big fat cataclysm that blows all this stuff apart |
| 01:52.45 | Cloudwolf | agreed adys |
| 01:54.03 | Adys | even silithus is near-fully implemented |
| 01:54.09 | Adys | and this was the last zone to be released in kalimdor |
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| 01:58.58 | Adys | in another impressive note |
| 01:59.03 | Adys | this client is remarkably stable |
| 01:59.17 | Adys | buggy as shit but doesnt crash |
| 02:00.26 | Jerub | silithus, heh. |
| 02:01.20 | WobWork | I always misread/pronounce it as Sithilus |
| 02:01.46 | Adys | silithus is the only zone that couldnt have been *more* boring at release |
| 02:01.50 | Jerub | Adys: what are you connecting it to? |
| 02:01.56 | Jerub | Adys: some kind of beta server? :P |
| 02:02.18 | Jerub | but it was world pvp! it was ctf/treasurehunt/aewsome |
| 02:02.24 | Jerub | (and a million miles from an AH) |
| 02:02.24 | Adys | oh no |
| 02:02.29 | Adys | at release it didnt have world pvp |
| 02:02.40 | Adys | it didnt have twilight cults |
| 02:02.44 | Jerub | Adys: really? man :/ |
| 02:02.47 | Adys | oh yes |
| 02:02.56 | Adys | the world pvp stuff is from 1.8 :) |
| 02:03.04 | Jerub | Adys: i'm glad that they dragged away vanilla and hid it. |
| 02:03.21 | Adys | Im not, TBC was crap. |
| 02:03.55 | Adys | it could be an interesting project to support these old terrain/model files |
| 02:04.08 | Adys | code a proper client |
| 02:04.25 | Adys | silithus had 4 friendly npcs in total |
| 02:04.37 | Jerub | gotta say, having maps in dungeons is probably the best thing about getting to wotlk. |
| 02:05.01 | Adys | yeah, for the work that was put into those maps they really could have done some of the old world's. |
| 02:05.39 | Jerub | but the problem with old world dungeons is that they were specifically designed to make the minimap useless. |
| 02:05.50 | Jerub | Z axis tomfoolery |
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| 02:08.17 | Adys | hadnt blizz been so lazy with those old maps |
| 02:08.47 | Lunessa | When you look at how instances and features matured between expansions, you see how they learned what people will play and what they won't. You don't see any more instances that are so big you break it into section (L/UBRS, Strat Dead/Live) - features to make the game more accessible; Dungeon teleports, LFD system, better maps, more flights, less pointless back-and-forth for quests. |
| 02:09.50 | Amarande | I thought the reason L/UBRS were broken into sections was because one was intended as a 5-man and the other a raid, not so much the size of the instance (although it is big) |
| 02:09.51 | Lunessa | When you compare that to classic you can see the huge change. And yet classic was a HUGE improvement in playability over competitors. |
| 02:10.07 | Lunessa | Amarande: It WAS endgame for a long time. |
| 02:10.12 | Adys | BRS was a failed experiment :p |
| 02:10.22 | Adys | but winged dungeons turned out quite well |
| 02:10.38 | Lunessa | Yeah, especially when you can finish a wing, and come back later. |
| 02:11.05 | Lunessa | The heroic/normal split is a good thing too. |
| 02:11.26 | Jamash | then there's BRD |
| 02:11.30 | Lunessa | And honestly, I didn't *get it* at first. |
| 02:11.40 | Jamash | which is just a mess |
| 02:11.42 | Lunessa | BRD was just... a time suck |
| 02:11.52 | Kraps | Adys: lol @ gad |
| 02:11.58 | Lunessa | They tried to put a whole city in an instance. |
| 02:12.22 | Amarande | ehh, BRD is actually fairly popular lately |
| 02:12.39 | Kraps | Amarande: only because of LFD |
| 02:12.42 | Adys | hahah |
| 02:12.46 | Adys | seeing hyjal empty |
| 02:12.47 | Lunessa | Well if you don't have to go back 4 times just to get your goddamned ony key... |
| 02:12.48 | Adys | thats a fucking change |
| 02:12.51 | WobWork | gnomeragan was terrible |
| 02:13.16 | Adys | hyjal in tbc was such a joke. |
| 02:13.22 | Jamash | gnomer was mostly terrible due to horrible pathfinding and line of sight mechanics |
| 02:13.37 | Adys | people waited so long for it and expected something very thorough and different |
| 02:13.48 | Adys | they got two shitty camps. |
| 02:13.58 | Adys | four years for that |
| 02:14.13 | Jamash | you should just zone in, watch the cinematic from WC3, collect epix, zone out |
| 02:14.32 | Adys | hyjal in cataclysm is a different story at least |
| 02:14.40 | Adys | man, could TBC have been any worse |
| 02:15.02 | Adys | the music is the only thing that hasn't yet entered the category of what sucked in that expansion |
| 02:15.36 | Kraps | Adys: vanilla was teh best!!!!1111 |
| 02:15.55 | Adys | even the graphics entered it. shattrath with its stupidly buggy and mem-leaking environment |
| 02:16.11 | Amarande | wait, shattrath leaked memory? |
| 02:16.17 | Adys | oh yes |
| 02:16.19 | Adys | lots |
| 02:17.49 | Jerub | Lunessa: [LU]BRS is something that fills me with rage. |
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| 02:18.09 | Amarande | Speaking of UBRS, I need to go on my hunter so I can finish a BS quest there |
| 02:18.14 | Lunessa | Jerub: I saw more of those two places than is good for my sanity. |
| 02:18.20 | Jerub | in fact, the entire 1->65ish progression for new players is just insane. |
| 02:18.38 | Jerub | cataclysm may be the best way of fixing it ;) |
| 02:18.43 | Amarande | Hey, "go back and forth" questing could be worse, at least you just walk straight back and forth ... |
| 02:18.55 | Amarande | Ever play Legend of Dragoon? (OMG NOT THE VALLEY OF CORRUPTED GRAVITY YET AGAIN) |
| 02:19.15 | alestane | That game was such a waste of excellent potential. |
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| 02:19.44 | Lunessa | Amarande: I got my fill of that crap with the original Ultima games on my C64 |
| 02:20.25 | Amarande | Lunessa: Ultima was awesome :) |
| 02:20.52 | Lunessa | but SO MUCH to-and-fro and "oh shit, I forgot to do X, FUCKITY FUCK FUCK" |
| 02:20.52 | Jerub | i really want to play ultima properly. |
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| 02:21.05 | Jerub | i was too young to play them |
| 02:21.16 | Jerub | and i never really understood the combat in them either. |
| 02:21.31 | Jerub | I did, however, play UO:underworld all the way through |
| 02:21.52 | Amarande | UVII part 2 is still on my list of best RPGs ever |
| 02:23.06 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 02:27.56 | Kraps | isnt there a level 20ish alliance quest that sends you to stonetalon mountains? |
| 02:28.31 | alestane | 22 or thereabouts. On Guard in Stonetalon and the Pridewing Venom Sacs one. |
| 02:28.50 | alestane | The first one is a chain, the other is a singleton. |
| 02:29.53 | Kraps | yeah, wtf |
| 02:30.12 | alestane | What's WTF about that? |
| 02:30.34 | Kraps | how were you supposed to get there before SW got its harbor |
| 02:30.57 | alestane | Oh, that's right, there's also the basilisk one. |
| 02:31.02 | alestane | That one's out of SW. |
| 02:31.40 | alestane | Tram to IF, run to Menethil, boat to Auberdine, run to Ashenvale, through the pass to Stonetalon. |
| 02:31.53 | alestane | Nothing along the way that makes a hard barrier to a 20. |
| 02:32.02 | alestane | Just takes for frikken' ever. |
| 02:33.13 | cogwheel | RAWR |
| 02:33.17 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 02:33.28 | alestane | huggles Gryphon. |
| 02:33.28 | cogwheel | huggles Gryphon |
| 02:33.32 | Gryphon | huggles cogwheel |
| 02:33.46 | Thunder_Child | alestane gets no hugs |
| 02:33.49 | cogwheel | buffs his fingernails on his shirt |
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| 02:35.40 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.47 | Kraps | what wont? |
| 02:39.03 | Lunessa | Did you not see "Good Morning Viet Nam" ? |
| 02:39.10 | Kraps | no |
| 02:39.20 | Lunessa | Rent that shit. |
| 02:40.32 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 02:42.56 | Dagmar | You should probably have typed that in all-caps. |
| 02:43.06 | Dagmar | ...and some extra o's. |
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| 02:47.58 | kd3 | grr; wine errors |
| 02:51.48 | Kraps | kd3: drink less |
| 02:53.39 | kd3 | this may actually drive me to drinking more >.< |
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| 03:01.08 | Dagmar | You could reduce those errors if you installed Gentoo. |
| 03:01.17 | Dagmar | You'd be too busy compiling to get that far. |
| 03:02.54 | Kraps | fail: 2 of the podcasts i want to listen to have no new episodes |
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| 03:27.51 | mikma | nsfw, www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyW5O1eShqU |
| 03:34.13 | Cloudwolf | damnit mikma XD |
| 03:42.49 | Kraps | *fapfap* |
| 03:45.48 | Amarande | Eastern Grizzly Hills: For folks who thought Fel Reavers were annoying enough. :) |
| 03:51.23 | Kraps | wtf http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT5_Mq4QNy0&feature=popt00us0f |
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| 03:56.40 | Dagmar | Kraps: o.O |
| 03:56.43 | Dagmar | *shudder* |
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| 04:41.08 | Arrowmaster | is it wrong if im debating downloading an almost 600gb torrent |
| 04:42.09 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 04:42.21 | Thunder_Child | well yes, you shouldnt be debating |
| 04:42.29 | Thunder_Child | you should just be doing it |
| 04:42.46 | WobWork | well the only debate should be "Have I got room?" |
| 04:42.57 | Thunder_Child | that not really a debate though |
| 04:44.05 | Arrowmaster | well ive got room except i normally dont download directly to my raid array |
| 04:44.56 | Thunder_Child | so dont |
| 04:45.37 | Arrowmaster | dont have room to download it to my other drive |
| 04:45.48 | WobWork | so do |
| 04:45.49 | Thunder_Child | you do in chinks |
| 04:45.50 | Arrowmaster | the torrent is larger than my non raid drive |
| 04:45.52 | Thunder_Child | chunks* |
| 04:46.10 | WobWork | well there you go, Thunder_Child |
| 04:46.13 | WobWork | it's a debate =) |
| 04:46.31 | Thunder_Child | thats not a debate on size, simply how you use the size |
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| 04:46.47 | WobWork | well, noone specified what the debate had to be about |
| 04:47.00 | WobWork | just that a debate was existant |
| 04:47.12 | Thunder_Child | actually it was, but you never did say size, you said room |
| 04:47.20 | Thunder_Child | which in this context is valid |
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| 04:49.56 | Xinhuan | whats in the 600 gb torrent |
| 04:50.16 | Xinhuan | you could partial torrent it (get selected files from it) |
| 04:50.30 | Arrowmaster | music |
| 04:50.59 | Xinhuan | raw wav format? lol |
| 04:51.06 | Arrowmaster | .tta |
| 04:52.55 | Dagmar | The largest collection of "Never Gonna Give You Up" remixes ever to be mislabeled. |
| 04:55.28 | Thunder_Child | in Arrowmasters case, it wasnt mislabeled |
| 04:55.33 | Thunder_Child | he wants all of them |
| 05:00.20 | Dagmar | That would be pretty damn funny to put up a fake torrent like that tho |
| 05:01.07 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 05:01.50 | Thunder_Child | even funnier if it wasnt fake |
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| 05:07.46 | Adys | anyone able to situate a nvidia G100 on a scale from 8600GT to 9800GTX? |
| 05:17.01 | Thunder_Child | Bibi: no, no love of gnomes |
| 05:17.27 | haste | Adys: tom's hardware? |
| 05:17.39 | Thunder_Child | haste: didnt see it on the charts |
| 05:17.43 | Adys | i got it |
| 05:29.55 | Kraps | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/05/500x_gamestopquotes.jpg |
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| 05:47.04 | bleeter | kd3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3v4YC9RT-g |
| 05:48.36 | kd3 | neat. notepad. where's wow? >.> |
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| 05:49.35 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:49.37 | kd3 | but that is impressive, in all honesty |
| 05:49.45 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 05:49.51 | kd3 | thinks of the logistics of putting crap on the n900 |
| 05:50.40 | WobWork | bleeter: the refreshrate desynch is hurting my eyes =( |
| 05:51.28 | Thunder_Child | that guy needs to L2useavideocamera |
| 05:54.50 | bleeter | kd3: yes, that's what I was thinking ;) |
| 05:55.44 | bleeter | would probably need some fancy footwork though with the disk space availability... maybe try running it over NFS? >< |
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| 06:05.05 | DWSR | Wow. |
| 06:05.12 | DWSR | Weed + insomnia = fix't. |
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| 06:11.54 | PfhorSlayer | Why is it that Blizzard has not implemented a way of catching out-of-control loops in addons and preventing them from killing the game? |
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| 06:12.57 | WobWork | because WoW is single threaded? |
| 06:13.14 | PfhorSlayer | It's NOT single threaded, there are at least 20 threads running pretty much all the time :P |
| 06:14.19 | PfhorSlayer | I've implemented Lua as a scripting language for a number of game engines, and always found it pretty easy to keep run-away loops from causing the game to die. |
| 06:14.34 | PfhorSlayer | I mean, there must be a reason why Blizzard hasn't. |
| 06:14.43 | WobWork | Perhaps they don't care =) |
| 06:14.50 | WobWork | because they don't officially support the addons |
| 06:14.53 | PfhorSlayer | Fair enough, I guess :P |
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| 06:17.41 | PfhorSlayer | just seems like it'd be very easy to do |
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| 06:17.55 | PfhorSlayer | run all lua stuff in a separate thread, that's running in lock-step with the rest of the game loop |
| 06:18.41 | PfhorSlayer | and have the game loop check if that thread's ever just spinning out of control |
| 06:18.54 | PfhorSlayer | Blizzard, hire me to fix your shit. Thanks. |
| 06:19.21 | Adys | OH SWEET |
| 06:19.28 | Adys | chrome shows upload % on forms :D |
| 06:20.27 | cogwheel | lua> p={}; function p:test(msg) print(msg) end; loadstring("p:test\n(\"why?\")") |
| 06:20.28 | lua_bot | cogwheel: No output |
| 06:20.48 | cogwheel | lua> p={}; function p:test(msg) print(msg) end; return type(loadstring("p:test\n(\"why?\")")) |
| 06:20.48 | lua_bot | cogwheel: nil |
| 06:20.52 | cogwheel | lua> p={}; function p:test(msg) print(msg) end; return type(loadstring("p:test(\"why?\")")) |
| 06:20.52 | lua_bot | cogwheel: function |
| 06:21.04 | cogwheel | why does that whitespace make a difference? |
| 06:21.47 | PfhorSlayer | lua> p={}; function p:test(msg) print(msg) end; return type(loadstring("p:test (\"why?\")")) |
| 06:21.47 | lua_bot | PfhorSlayer: function |
| 06:22.10 | Adys | cogwheel: im guessing because the former is invalid syntax? |
| 06:22.10 | cogwheel | s/whitespace/newline/ |
| 06:22.48 | cogwheel | the first one was my bad |
| 06:22.51 | Adys | lua> p={}; return type(loadstring("p:test")) |
| 06:22.51 | lua_bot | Adys: nil |
| 06:23.05 | cogwheel | the second two and PfhorSlayer's illustrate the problem |
| 06:23.17 | Adys | i dont see the issue |
| 06:23.25 | Adys | p:test\n("why") is invalid syntax |
| 06:23.31 | PfhorSlayer | no |
| 06:23.38 | PfhorSlayer | he's doing loadstring() on that string |
| 06:23.42 | Adys | well apparently loadstring doesnt like it |
| 06:23.48 | cogwheel | p:test("why") works, p:test ("why") works, but p:test<newline>("why") doesn't. |
| 06:24.00 | cogwheel | \n is encoded as a newline before loadstring sees it |
| 06:24.03 | PfhorSlayer | he's wondering why func() is invalid, but func () <-- notice the space between the name and the ( is not |
| 06:24.07 | Adys | and is p:test\n("why") valid syntax at all? |
| 06:24.20 | cogwheel | \n is just supposed to be whitespace |
| 06:24.20 | PfhorSlayer | loadstring parses the string first |
| 06:24.32 | PfhorSlayer | fixing up the whitespace and escape characters (\n) |
| 06:24.55 | cogwheel | it's not even loadstring. it's the lua interpreter that parses the original command |
| 06:24.56 | Adys | lua> p={}; function p:test(msg) print(msg) end; return type(loadstring("p:test\\n(\"why?\")")) |
| 06:24.56 | lua_bot | Adys: nil |
| 06:25.08 | cogwheel | Adys: wtf >< |
| 06:25.13 | Adys | idk man. |
| 06:25.28 | PfhorSlayer | Adys: what you just wrote IS invalid syntax |
| 06:25.47 | PfhorSlayer | because it comes out to: p:test\n("why?") |
| 06:25.57 | Adys | i realize that |
| 06:26.00 | krka | \n is NOT just whitespace |
| 06:26.12 | Adys | but p:test (newline) (foo) is not valid syntax |
| 06:26.13 | krka | separating the function name and the parameters with a newline is illegal lua syntax |
| 06:26.20 | cogwheel | ok. |
| 06:26.28 | cogwheel | that's what i needed to know :) |
| 06:26.40 | PfhorSlayer | there you go :P |
| 06:26.44 | Adys | thats what ive been saying for 10 mins >< |
| 06:26.58 | cogwheel | >< |
| 06:27.02 | PfhorSlayer | ^_^ |
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| 06:35.37 | Cide | blah |
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| 06:37.07 | Cide | Adys: linux support time? |
| 06:37.25 | Cide | or rather, django support time |
| 06:37.33 | Adys | Cide: sup |
| 06:37.42 | Cide | so I'm trying to run django on lighttpd |
| 06:37.50 | Cide | and lighttpd runs as user www-data |
| 06:38.18 | Cide | http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.2/howto/deployment/fastcgi/#howto-deployment-fastcg |
| 06:38.39 | Adys | yeah? |
| 06:38.58 | Cide | says but manage.py runfcgi creates the socket as my current user |
| 06:39.10 | Cide | which www-data doesn't have permission to read/write |
| 06:39.27 | Cide | it works if I chown the socket to www-data, but every time I launch the daemon it gets reset to my current user |
| 06:39.39 | Cide | which seems unnecessarily crufty |
| 06:39.56 | kd3 | why are you launching it as you? shouldn't the initscript be taking care of that? |
| 06:40.12 | Adys | lemme check |
| 06:40.13 | Cide | I tried running lighttpd as my own user but that sounds like a possible security issue, plus I don't have access to /var/log which www-data does |
| 06:40.19 | Adys | i think i use fcgi on the db |
| 06:40.58 | Adys | Cide: http://dpaste.com/195990/ |
| 06:41.51 | Jerub | I <3 qc so much |
| 06:42.11 | Jerub | sure, he doesn't always update on time, but when he's late, you get to look at his ustream to see /how/ late he is. |
| 06:42.31 | Adys | Cide: this one is run as root, btw |
| 06:42.39 | Cide | hmm |
| 06:43.35 | Cide | so I ran manage.py as root |
| 06:43.42 | Cide | and my socket file gets created by root |
| 06:43.50 | Cide | connect failed: Permission denied on unix:/home/andre/web/django.sock |
| 06:43.53 | Cide | still getting that |
| 06:44.07 | Adys | um |
| 06:44.14 | Cide | I'd need to run it as www-data I guess |
| 06:44.29 | Adys | idk where/how the socket is being created |
| 06:44.34 | Adys | but it would need to be readable by www |
| 06:44.41 | Cide | yeah |
| 06:45.01 | Cide | can I like give the user permission to read all of this user's files? |
| 06:45.07 | Cide | or do I have to do it on a file-by-file basis |
| 06:45.08 | kd3 | sure |
| 06:45.13 | Cide | how? |
| 06:45.20 | Adys | add it to your usergroup |
| 06:46.38 | Adys | http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2010/05/17/qtwebkit-now-accelerates-css-animations-3d-transforms/ |
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| 06:47.22 | kd3 | example from my /etc/group file: apache:x:489:apache,myth |
| 06:47.40 | kd3 | you can use your distro's user/group editor to do the same thing |
| 06:48.37 | Cide | sec |
| 06:54.34 | Cide | so I have |
| 06:54.38 | Cide | www-data:x:33:andre |
| 06:54.50 | Cide | that gives www-data permission to my files? |
| 06:55.18 | kd3 | as long as your files are group-readable/writable as necessary |
| 06:55.35 | Cide | oh nvm |
| 06:55.40 | kd3 | 664 or 775, not 644 or 755 |
| 06:55.40 | Cide | just had to restart lighttpd |
| 06:56.17 | Cide | christ |
| 06:56.32 | Cide | now it works, only I have to flag the file as group-writable all the time |
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| 07:00.58 | Cide | there's got to be another way |
| 07:02.03 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 07:02.06 | Fisker | not so hey Cide though |
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| 07:17.06 | Amarande | maaaan I got ripped off |
| 07:17.13 | Amarande | 950g for this thing that looks like it was built out of bone tinkertoys |
| 07:17.43 | Corrodias2 | screenshot! |
| 07:24.14 | Cide | Adys: thanks, got it to work with the threaded method instead |
| 07:26.32 | Fisker | why do i hate Cide ? |
| 07:27.38 | Cide | good question |
| 07:27.42 | Adys | night cide |
| 07:27.43 | Cide | I suspect we will never know |
| 07:27.55 | Cide | night Adys |
| 07:34.00 | industrial | Is there a way to turn off the functionality in windows 7 that makes a window blue-ish when you move it to the corner to auto-size it? I don't want that. at all. ever. |
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| 09:33.58 | Sixen | Anyone know what the @ symbol does for directories in XML? |
| 09:34.52 | zenzelezz | directories? |
| 09:35.09 | Sixen | Referencing a file |
| 09:35.48 | Sixen | <Texture val="@UI/MultiplayerLoadingPanelPlayerFramePlayerColorTop" layer="0"/> |
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| 09:52.46 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:52.47 | Fisker | hohoho |
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| 10:01.14 | Torhal | dips Fisker in bleach. |
| 10:01.55 | Torhal | Strangely, I seem to not mind farming on WoW as much when I'm listening to music from Morrowind or Oblivion, or even Neverwinter Nights. |
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| 10:02.40 | Fisker | i came Torhal |
| 10:02.50 | Torhal | This is why the bleach was necessary. |
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| 10:18.43 | Cide | I fucking hate zvp |
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| 10:26.44 | Xinhuan | solution: be the P, so you can play pvz instead :) |
| 10:39.27 | Cide | I usually do play P |
| 10:39.31 | Cide | but I'm learning zerg |
| 10:39.41 | Cide | but I've met 3 protoss in a row who have all tried to void ray rush me |
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| 10:39.57 | Cide | the last guy quit immediately when his first 3 void rays got immediately destroyed |
| 10:40.08 | Caleb| | I heared the trend is to go for mass queens against that |
| 10:40.23 | Cide | I countered it with 3/4 queens, yes |
| 10:40.26 | Cide | but it's so stupid |
| 10:40.41 | Cide | can they not figure out something more creative? |
| 10:43.03 | Legorol | Cide, are you playing in US or EU? |
| 10:43.12 | Legorol | you were US, right? |
| 10:43.21 | Cide | I have accounts on both actually |
| 10:43.24 | Cide | :> |
| 10:43.33 | Cide | playing primarily EU |
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| 10:44.47 | Caleb| | what league are you in? |
| 10:45.28 | olafski | plants vs zombies? |
| 10:46.10 | industrial | graiiiiins |
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| 10:49.03 | Xinhuan | mass queen is awesome, and yet so stupid |
| 10:49.04 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 10:49.10 | Matsy | mass queen? |
| 10:49.16 | Xinhuan | thelittleone is so pro lol |
| 10:49.27 | Caleb| | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-nWO5n5zYw |
| 10:49.50 | Matsy | oh right |
| 10:49.50 | Matsy | SC2 |
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| 10:59.34 | industrial | Fisker: help me with my CSS |
| 10:59.53 | industrial | that is; cascading style sheets |
| 11:00.09 | Matsy | It's almost always the ; |
| 11:00.31 | industrial | http://www.webdevout.net/test?0w |
| 11:00.46 | industrial | I can't get tbody to have a border |
| 11:01.21 | industrial | guess I can <tbody><div style="border:1px solid #f00"> ... etc |
| 11:01.35 | Cide | Caleb|: gold as zerg, plat as toss |
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| 11:02.22 | industrial | yeah using a div insde that won't work. it messes up my JS royally |
| 11:03.29 | Matsy | What do you want to do exactly? |
| 11:03.42 | zenzelezz | I didn't think <tbody>, <thead>, <tfoot> were actual objects? |
| 11:03.44 | Matsy | you want sortable_rows to have a border? |
| 11:03.53 | industrial | if you click on display you can see it rendered. |
| 11:03.58 | industrial | Matsy: correct |
| 11:04.04 | industrial | hm, maybe a div around it :P |
| 11:05.51 | industrial | nope guess its not possible |
| 11:06.07 | Matsy | INdeed. |
| 11:06.15 | Matsy | I knew it wasn't, looking up W3 for you |
| 11:06.32 | Matsy | Check: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.3 |
| 11:06.55 | industrial | it will just not render inside the table (and prolly not well formed either). has to be inside the content (th, td, etc) |
| 11:07.59 | industrial | Matsy: thanks |
| 11:09.44 | Torhal | Ugh. Cannot install Oblivion because Securom is retardiculous. |
| 11:10.16 | Torhal | I have the original DVD in the drive, yet it keeps saying I need to insert the original disc. |
| 11:10.24 | Torhal | /headdesks |
| 11:11.18 | haste | DRM makes the world a better place! |
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| 11:13.02 | Kalroth | stabs haste |
| 11:13.10 | haste | deflects. |
| 11:13.28 | Kalroth | haste: unless you meant Dirty Randy Moms, then I agree |
| 11:13.30 | Torhal | Perhaps I need to install an older Wine version - supposedly in 1.1.28 Securom is fully supported and yet 1.1.44 isn't allowing me to install |
| 11:13.45 | Kalroth | Torhal: Ooooor visit gamecopyworld.com |
| 11:14.10 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:14.17 | Kalroth | http://m0006.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_the_elder_scrolls_4.shtml |
| 11:14.26 | Torhal | looks. |
| 11:14.50 | haste | Kalroth: I'm not being sarcastic or anything, being a linux user and all that |
| 11:14.58 | Kalroth | GCW got no-cd fixes for all games on the PC, except when it isn't needed |
| 11:15.10 | Kalroth | haste: are you being sarcastic about not being sarcastic? |
| 11:15.22 | haste | I've stopped buying games due to DRM |
| 11:15.26 | haste | unless I know it's working |
| 11:15.37 | haste | but then there's cases like Borderlands, where they add DRM AFTERWARDS |
| 11:15.42 | haste | so the game stops working for wine users |
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| 11:15.50 | Kalroth | oh, I'm not that picky, I only buy games where I know I can remove the DRM |
| 11:15.54 | Kalroth | they did? |
| 11:15.58 | haste | yes they did |
| 11:16.05 | haste | patch 1.1 or so added DRM |
| 11:16.12 | Kalroth | I got Borderlands too, but I played it through once and never played it again |
| 11:16.12 | haste | making it impossible to play on wine, at least yet |
| 11:16.35 | Kalroth | http://m0006.gamecopyworld.com/games/pc_borderlands.shtml checked this page?! |
| 11:16.43 | Kalroth | Borderlands v1.3 (v1.3.0.0) [MULTI5] No-DVD/Fixed EXE |
| 11:16.45 | haste | didn't have latest last time I checked |
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| 11:17.54 | haste | I just wanted to play it with a friend back in february |
| 11:18.01 | Kalroth | haha, so many protections |
| 11:18.06 | haste | which they made impossible :V |
| 11:18.26 | Kalroth | SecuROM v7 (v7.40.0009) / SecuROM Matroschka (Retail DVD) [MULTI5], SecuROM v7 (v7.41.0004) (Retail DVD) [RUSSIAN], TryMedia + ActiveMARK v6 (v6.3.856) (Digital Download) |
| 11:18.44 | haste | :D |
| 11:18.52 | haste | wine errors with invalid exe format on the default install |
| 11:18.56 | haste | with patches |
| 11:19.57 | Kalroth | probably, yeah |
| 11:20.03 | Kalroth | securom is very, very messy |
| 11:25.44 | Torhal | Kalroth: Thanks, but all I see are 1.1.425 Beta No-DVD executables...my issue is that I have 1.1.425 (release) which won't even let me install |
| 11:42.34 | Fisker | i hasted |
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| 11:52.00 | Jamash | has to go to work :( |
| 11:59.47 | Fisker | anyone recall that picture with blizzard about how many that plays and then it says that as many as x state and x country, etc. |
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| 12:30.28 | alestane | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-5-2010/american-apparently?xrs=share_fb |
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| 12:33.49 | Fisker | alestane Lopeppeppy |
| 12:34.17 | alestane | Morning, Peppy. |
| 12:34.48 | Fisker | more tea guvnor? |
| 12:35.03 | Fisker | MOAR TEA?! |
| 12:35.34 | Lopeppeppy | EXSANGUINATE! |
| 12:35.41 | Torhal | VIVISECT! |
| 12:36.16 | alestane | Wow, that bad already? |
| 12:36.47 | Lopeppeppy | I thought Dalek was good for any occasion? |
| 12:36.52 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 12:37.12 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn! |
| 12:37.25 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: But they say "EXTERMINATE!" |
| 12:37.27 | Cairenn | How you doing sweetie? How is the parental unit? |
| 12:38.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, parental unit is in temporal stasis until the testing tomorrow. I figured it was safer to store her in carbonite, she gets into way too much damn trouble on her own. (Staying quiet, doing nothing until tests.) |
| 12:39.01 | alestane | Has something new happened that I didn't hear about? |
| 12:39.13 | Lopeppeppy | Tons more crap over the weekend, dear. |
| 12:39.29 | Fisker | they also say "DESTROY" Torhal |
| 12:39.30 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: well, at least nothing worse as of yet |
| 12:39.32 | Fisker | and i believe "ANNIHILATE" |
| 12:39.34 | alestane | Must have been discussed while I was in class then. |
| 12:39.43 | Cairenn | alestane: we were having a girl gab |
| 12:39.46 | Fisker | also they also frequently used "EXPLAIN EXPLAIN" |
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| 12:39.56 | Cairenn | It was in PMs |
| 12:39.58 | Wobin | especially when getting emotional |
| 12:40.05 | Fisker | pms hoho |
| 12:40.07 | alestane | I see. |
| 12:40.09 | Fisker | runs |
| 12:40.21 | Fisker | cant trip me yo |
| 12:40.27 | Lopeppeppy | Yo. |
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| 12:42.36 | Torhal | Fisker: But never "EXSANGUINATE!" |
| 12:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | I rather like the messy blood. |
| 12:43.18 | Fisker | well next season we can get vampire daleks? |
| 12:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | Ooooh. In the Teletubby colors? |
| 12:43.47 | Wobin | yes |
| 12:43.49 | Torhal | ... |
| 12:43.53 | Wobin | they're... like jelly beans |
| 12:43.54 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hell no. |
| 12:44.01 | Wobin | SO COLOURFUL |
| 12:44.03 | Torhal | I'd prefer Cybertubbies. |
| 12:44.05 | Torhal | :D |
| 12:44.20 | Wobin | Seriously, they're all different colours |
| 12:44.22 | Wobin | it's weird |
| 12:47.34 | Kaso | the internet sure is a small world |
| 12:47.51 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. |
| 12:47.54 | Kaso | i keep seeing ZorbaBeta on various places |
| 12:48.12 | Kaso | on irc ofc, but also on somethingawful and just now saw a post on proggit by him >< |
| 12:48.23 | ZorbaBeta | I am everywhere |
| 12:51.06 | p3lim | is it possible to track enemy equipement cooldowns easily?? (like trinkets) |
| 12:52.06 | Kaso | can you set a tooltip to the spellids you see in combat log then parse that for a cooldown line? is there even a cooldown line on spell tooltips? |
| 12:52.38 | Kaso | otherwise i guess you could keep a database of common trinkets and their respective cooldowns and watch out for when the enemy uses them |
| 12:52.54 | Wobin | Fisker, http://www.onlineschools.org/blog/unbelievable-wow/ |
| 12:53.08 | Kraps | old |
| 12:53.28 | Wobin | That may be the one you're after |
| 12:54.50 | Fisker | yay Wobin |
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| 12:57.55 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/13516482906/real-e-mail-or/ |
| 12:59.06 | Fisker | man |
| 12:59.12 | Fisker | im gonna get a job there as forum mod |
| 12:59.18 | Fisker | gonna permaban that guy |
| 13:00.12 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, you go, Mr. Innocent |
| 13:00.39 | Kraps | heres another one http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/13200309121/pls-remove-rogue-poisons-from-game/ |
| 13:00.56 | Fisker | that's the point Lopeppeppy |
| 13:05.04 | industrial | I wonder how frequent someone joins #python to ask for 'the funny script'. |
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| 13:09.46 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAgyDhWk5tE |
| 13:09.50 | Wobin | that's pretty cool |
| 13:09.54 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly! Hiya! |
| 13:10.06 | |Jelly| | Good morning. :) |
| 13:10.27 | Kraps | is the ptr down? |
| 13:10.39 | Lopeppeppy | It is Tuesday. |
| 13:11.27 | Kraps | shenanigans "3.3.5 PTR Realm Status: Live " |
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| 13:14.57 | Kraps | Wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFybwg4wadI |
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| 13:22.02 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKB7zfopiUA&playnext_from=TL&videos=OXuVCsMwW1I |
| 13:28.56 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCVGbDf6Uws |
| 13:30.20 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/user/WowSoundtrackProject |
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| 13:32.44 | Wobin | improv everywhere... |
| 13:32.47 | Wobin | has kind of... |
| 13:32.52 | Wobin | stopped being... improv |
| 13:33.10 | Wobin | now it's "Cheesy Acting Scene" |
| 13:33.20 | Lopeppeppy | Best improv, "Whose Line Is It Anyway". Wayne rocks my socks. |
| 13:33.37 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 13:34.15 | Lopeppeppy | The music skits he does are fantastic. |
| 13:35.20 | alestane | Ryan's deadpan is also excellent. |
| 13:36.56 | Lopeppeppy | Colin vs. Ryan gets legendary. Wayne just has to play with whomever is filling their fourth slot. |
| 13:37.44 | krka | that sentence sounded strangely perverse in my head O_o |
| 13:37.47 | Lopeppeppy | Which is why he's my favorite, he gets the curveballs. |
| 13:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | try *that* sentence, krka! |
| 13:38.02 | industrial | krka: o/ |
| 13:38.03 | krka | and the curveballs didn't help... |
| 13:38.14 | industrial | hahaha |
| 13:38.25 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkKDW7XR-lQ |
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| 13:43.29 | Kenuvis | Hello, i have a little question. Is it possible to script an addon, thats open the nearest loot, only using an hotkey. |
| 13:43.37 | Wobin | alas not |
| 13:43.43 | Wobin | that requires mouse interaction |
| 13:44.15 | alestane | You can set it so a hot key loots whatever is under your mouse, but your mouse must be over something to loot it. |
| 13:45.02 | Kenuvis | mh, ok. thanks |
| 13:45.27 | krka | this is the best improv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpuzzJxjzro |
| 13:48.56 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:58.27 | Torhal | dips Fisker in bleach. |
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| 14:05.12 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOtdm-g0DCg |
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| 14:24.34 | industrial | so i got a new keyboard |
| 14:24.38 | Fisker | industrial |
| 14:24.40 | Fisker | which? |
| 14:24.51 | industrial | they showrtened the enter key and there's a \| key there now |
| 14:24.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | IBM PC-AT Keyboard |
| 14:25.06 | industrial | also, they shortened the shift key. |
| 14:25.12 | industrial | there's a \| key there now |
| 14:25.17 | industrial | (left shift) |
| 14:25.21 | industrial | I don't get it |
| 14:25.25 | Ackis | ... |
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| 14:25.31 | industrial | I misstype \ every shift and enter now |
| 14:25.32 | Ackis | co-worker just sent me an e-mail |
| 14:25.44 | Ackis | how do i use "paltalk" when it clearly states "click here to download and install" |
| 14:25.55 | Fisker | owned industrial |
| 14:25.59 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 14:26.14 | Fisker | i can play portal because the cake is a lie just like my intelligence |
| 14:27.55 | Lopeppeppy | ... out of the mouths of trolls. |
| 14:28.12 | zenzelezz | I wouldn't pluralise Fisker |
| 14:28.15 | zenzelezz | it'll give him ideas |
| 14:28.27 | Torhal | Your intelligence is a lie, or it's spongy like cake? |
| 14:28.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | the sentance is a logical minefield |
| 14:29.00 | Fisker | what is a sentance? |
| 14:29.14 | sylvanaar_atwork | sentances Fisker to Fisker |
| 14:29.16 | Torhal | sylvanaar_atwork: That would be Ackis's daily work life. |
| 14:29.25 | Fisker | i don't get it sylvanaar_atwork |
| 14:30.16 | sylvanaar_atwork | i just submitted my first iPhone app to the app store |
| 14:30.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | waits for the rejection |
| 14:30.30 | Torhal | sylvanaar_atwork: Does it make a mean cup of tea? |
| 14:30.55 | sylvanaar_atwork | it tells time using colors |
| 14:30.59 | Fisker | sylvanaar_atwork i think your iphone app was sentanced to rejection |
| 14:31.13 | Fisker | herpty derpty |
| 14:31.45 | sylvanaar_atwork | i still want that tea maker btw |
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| 14:34.36 | DWSR | Shadowed: ping |
| 14:34.40 | Shadowed | mmm? |
| 14:34.45 | DWSR | EA brokeded? |
| 14:34.52 | Matsy | sylvanaar_atwork.. for how much? |
| 14:35.16 | sylvanaar_atwork | Matsy: the teamaker? |
| 14:35.23 | Matsy | Hahaha, no |
| 14:35.28 | Matsy | How much is your app on the appstore? ;p |
| 14:35.29 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh, free |
| 14:35.34 | Matsy | oh! |
| 14:35.47 | sylvanaar_atwork | it still has to be approved though |
| 14:35.58 | Matsy | I'm almost finished with my iPhone app as well |
| 14:36.13 | sylvanaar_atwork | cool, what does it do |
| 14:36.14 | Matsy | I'm scared to submit it though |
| 14:36.16 | Matsy | Well |
| 14:36.20 | Matsy | You can scan certain products |
| 14:36.22 | olafski | it lets you download windows mobile 7? |
| 14:36.23 | Matsy | or make pictures of them |
| 14:36.29 | Fisker | i want to make one that just deletes fucking everything |
| 14:36.32 | Matsy | And it will automatically download them from usenet |
| 14:36.36 | Fisker | rm -rf / |
| 14:36.39 | Matsy | :D |
| 14:36.41 | Lopeppeppy | deletes Fisker |
| 14:36.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | thats neat |
| 14:36.48 | Matsy | So, for example, if you make a picture of a house episode box |
| 14:36.54 | olafski | how will that ever get accepted? :s |
| 14:36.59 | Matsy | How wouldn't it? |
| 14:37.05 | Matsy | Yeah, I know it will never be :( |
| 14:37.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | pocket pirate? |
| 14:37.08 | Fisker | in b4 feds |
| 14:37.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | iPirate |
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| 14:37.19 | Matsy | But, I'm going to supply it on Cydia if that doesn't work out |
| 14:37.21 | olafski | it sounds kind of like.. "download this and never buy something from itunes again" :) |
| 14:37.28 | Matsy | .. :( |
| 14:37.32 | olafski | bleh jailbreaking :P |
| 14:37.38 | Torhal | Fisker: You should write an iPhone app than bans people on the WoW forums. |
| 14:38.05 | Fisker | that probably already exists |
| 14:38.07 | Matsy | sylvanaar_atwork: The neat thing is, it also makes recommendations, based on imdb ratings, and will ask you to automatically subscribe to next episodes. |
| 14:38.20 | Matsy | :D |
| 14:38.26 | sylvanaar_atwork | thats cool, what api does it use to identify what you scanned |
| 14:38.44 | olafski | still amazes me that usenet is used for such things =( |
| 14:38.53 | sylvanaar_atwork | still uses usenet |
| 14:39.10 | olafski | me too |
| 14:39.13 | olafski | but only for discussions, not binaries |
| 14:39.21 | sylvanaar_atwork | alt.binaries.ftw |
| 14:39.23 | Matsy | sylvanaar_atwork: It's currently using kooaba |
| 14:40.01 | sylvanaar_atwork | mine is written in Lua |
| 14:40.03 | Matsy | sylvanaar_atwork: But, I will be changing it to something else any time soon. |
| 14:40.35 | Matsy | Yours is written in Lua? |
| 14:40.38 | Ackis | http://publicintelligence.net/baltimore-police-department-guns-that-look-like-toys/ |
| 14:40.38 | sylvanaar_atwork | yes |
| 14:40.39 | Ackis | lol |
| 14:40.42 | Ackis | hello kitty ak-47 |
| 14:40.43 | Matsy | ib4ban |
| 14:40.54 | Matsy | It will be banned with iPhone OS 4.0 :( |
| 14:41.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | its free, i dont care |
| 14:41.16 | Matsy | I wanted to write mine in C# |
| 14:41.20 | Matsy | But, I got scareeed |
| 14:41.31 | Kraps | huh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNgUMcyLpXs&feature=channel |
| 14:41.37 | Matsy | Are you so good in Lua then? (I don't know anything about your addon-related reputation) |
| 14:42.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | i have been around for a while - idk |
| 14:42.46 | Ackis | tbh I'd say he's mediocre ;) |
| 14:42.53 | olafski | better than ackis! |
| 14:43.01 | Matsy | Better than me, at least! |
| 14:43.03 | Matsy | I can't do any lua |
| 14:43.09 | Ackis | truth olafski! |
| 14:43.19 | Matsy | omg |
| 14:43.30 | olafski | but you own @ C# matsy |
| 14:43.38 | Matsy | sylvanaar_atwork: I use at least 2 of your addons already. |
| 14:43.44 | Matsy | Yeah, that's true, olafski;p |
| 14:43.44 | sylvanaar_atwork | i may rewrite it in obj-c |
| 14:43.57 | Matsy | Oh, three ;p |
| 14:44.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | 3 realy? |
| 14:44.10 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 14:44.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | thats how many i use |
| 14:44.29 | Matsy | ACP, Prat / LibFail |
| 14:44.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh, i wasnt counting libraries |
| 14:44.55 | Matsy | oh |
| 14:45.00 | Matsy | Yeah, I use RW2 |
| 14:45.06 | sylvanaar_atwork | i use ACP, Prat and RightWing |
| 14:45.07 | Matsy | And Skada, and they both use LibFail, iirc |
| 14:45.35 | Matsy | RightWing? |
| 14:45.41 | Matsy | oh. |
| 14:45.49 | Matsy | I have Clique, I don't think I am interested in Rightwing. |
| 14:45.49 | sylvanaar_atwork | rightwing is retarded its 4 lines, i just needed some place to put them |
| 14:46.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | i use clique also, but it doesnt do anything to the blizz action bars |
| 14:46.33 | Matsy | I don't have those anymore :( |
| 14:46.39 | Matsy | I don't use any actionbars |
| 14:46.51 | sylvanaar_atwork | is a clicker |
| 14:46.57 | Matsy | Same here ;p |
| 14:47.01 | Matsy | but only on grid |
| 14:47.01 | olafski | high fives sylvanaar_atwork |
| 14:47.03 | olafski | clickers rule |
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| 14:47.17 | foxlit | This is a grave injustice |
| 14:47.20 | DWSR | bleh. |
| 14:47.20 | DWSR | Clickers blow. |
| 14:47.20 | DWSR | Unless you're healing via Clique. |
| 14:47.25 | Matsy | That's what I am doing |
| 14:47.35 | foxlit | You cannot open clams without dropping out of flight form |
| 14:47.36 | foxlit | Outrage. |
| 14:47.38 | Matsy | http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/8284/wowscrnshot051610185246.jpg |
| 14:47.42 | Matsy | That's how my UI looks |
| 14:48.00 | foxlit | Lies. |
| 14:48.04 | foxlit | Where is the bubble-hearth key? |
| 14:48.07 | Matsy | hahahah |
| 14:48.10 | Lopeppeppy | Under the bear's butt |
| 14:48.48 | Matsy | I only really see the action bar whenever I am in prot mode. |
| 14:49.10 | Matsy | :D |
| 14:49.25 | Matsy | I was always amazed how ACP worked, though |
| 14:49.32 | Matsy | How can it manage addons like that? |
| 14:49.45 | Matsy | I mean, does it hook all the addon loading / unloading via ACP? |
| 14:50.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | there are bliz api's for doing everything it does |
| 14:50.23 | sylvanaar_atwork | time to go to the chriropractor....bbl |
| 14:50.52 | olafski | no unitframes matsy? |
| 14:50.58 | olafski | or do they only show when you're in a group or something |
| 14:50.58 | Thrae | Ugh, I forgot how much a PITA this whole FCOM (Oblivion) process was. |
| 14:51.12 | Matsy | Yeah, olafski |
| 14:51.29 | Matsy | There's a pretty large grid window whenever I am in a group |
| 14:51.34 | Matsy | And, I have a mana bar whenever I am in combat |
| 14:51.45 | Matsy | And at the right, there are buffs, whenever I am in a group |
| 14:52.13 | Torhal | Thrae: Don't make me angry. Securom won't even let me install Oblivion, even though I have the original disc. |
| 14:52.15 | Torhal | :( |
| 14:52.20 | Matsy | Same for ZOMGBuffs, and many other addons ;p |
| 14:52.43 | Thrae | Torhal: Ouch. Well it's on Steam. Do you have Steam? The retail key may work for letting you download Oblivion off of Steam. |
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| 14:52.49 | Matsy | I just need to be able to remove the buttons you see there |
| 14:52.58 | Torhal | Thrae: I think the problem is that I run Linux. :) |
| 14:53.01 | Matsy | The ones that makes you copy the whole text in the chat |
| 14:53.11 | Thrae | Torhal: Steam works in Linux! ;) |
| 14:53.45 | Torhal | Well, there is no key for retail. There's Securom which (badly) checks to make sure you're using the original disc. |
| 14:54.16 | Thrae | Torhal: So it won't even let you *install* it? |
| 14:54.17 | Matsy | sylvanaar_atwork, do you have any idea about that? |
| 14:54.32 | Matsy | sylvanaar_atwork, seeing you are the master at chat addons (I am horrible, I know ;p) |
| 14:54.45 | Torhal | Thrae: Exactly. The GOTY edition uses Securom for installation - the NOCD crack works after that. |
| 14:55.13 | olafski | have someone send you their install directory =) |
| 14:55.38 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 14:56.46 | Thrae | Torhal: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19986 |
| 14:56.57 | Fisker | kicks Thrae in the face with a butt |
| 14:57.34 | Thrae | Torhal: Maybe "PlayOnLinux" helps with SecuROM. |
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| 14:58.36 | Thrae | Fisker: Stop trying to solicit homosexual butt sex from me. It won't happen. |
| 15:00.30 | Thrae | Torhal: Anyway, despite its "Gold" status, I still don't trust any single-player games of DX9 or higher on Linux. You may get them running but you may not get the full graphical experience, which is especially important to me with Oblivion where like half my mods are just graphical updates! |
| 15:01.55 | Thrae | Torhal: As a gamer I like to use Windows as the host, Linux as the guest. You could also go the Xen route, but as a programmer that's not as good an option for me personally. Anyway, to each his own :) |
| 15:03.54 | Torhal | Thrae: I'll investigate PlayOnLinux. Or I'll just steal my GF's machine while she's at work. |
| 15:05.16 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 15:05.22 | Fisker | how much are you earning on EA right now? |
| 15:05.24 | Fisker | I want my cut |
| 15:05.34 | Fisker | unless it's negative money then you can keep it |
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| 15:12.46 | Kaso | alestane: You can set it so a hot key loots whatever is under your mouse, but your mouse must be over something to loot it. |
| 15:12.46 | Kaso | I wasnt aware of this, how do you do it? |
| 15:13.06 | alestane | Bind a ket to "TURNORACTION". |
| 15:13.09 | alestane | key* |
| 15:13.21 | alestane | That effectively makes that keybind a right-click. |
| 15:15.15 | Kaso | oh cool |
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| 15:18.53 | Cide | moo |
| 15:19.08 | Lopeppeppy | Moo |
| 15:19.23 | Cairenn | Purr |
| 15:19.40 | Cide | bah, wrong os |
| 15:19.40 | Cide | brb |
| 15:21.00 | Lopeppeppy | Barnyard OS is clearly no good. |
| 15:21.27 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 15:25.14 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1667 |
| 15:29.25 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 15:29.26 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
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| 15:30.29 | DWSR | Shadowed: EA is broken. Again. |
| 15:30.33 | DWSR | Just under high load? |
| 15:31.31 | Adys | he's currently switching from ruby to a better solution |
| 15:31.38 | Adys | just like every RoR site has done to day. |
| 15:31.46 | Torhal | Adys: Line BASIC? |
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| 15:32.18 | Adys | yeah who the hell knows |
| 15:32.42 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/05/18/funny-pictures-i-cant-believe/ |
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| 15:33.18 | Fisker | pascal is vastly superior to ruby |
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| 15:35.37 | alestane | prefers purrs to moos anyway. |
| 15:36.05 | Gagorian | Fisker: fail at trolling |
| 15:36.14 | Torhal | DWSR: Have you had any luck compiling Wine with mp3 support? |
| 15:36.24 | DWSR | lolwut? |
| 15:36.26 | Torhal | I suppose the first question should be "Are you running amd64?" |
| 15:36.38 | DWSR | Why would you want to "compile Wine with mp3 support"? |
| 15:36.39 | Torhal | Apparently the 32-bit mpg123 lib is masked |
| 15:36.50 | DWSR | You're talking about on Gentoo? |
| 15:36.53 | Torhal | Yup |
| 15:36.58 | DWSR | So unmask it. |
| 15:37.03 | DWSR | And yes, I'm running 64bit. |
| 15:37.42 | Torhal | Ick. Was hoping to not have to delve into the unmask-everything-required-and-hope-shit-doesn't-break path. |
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| 15:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | wants Moo cards! |
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| 15:38.05 | DWSR | It's masked for a reason. |
| 15:38.13 | DWSR | That's all I has to say about dis. |
| 15:38.22 | Torhal | :P |
| 15:38.31 | zenzelezz | http://failblog.org/2010/05/18/epic-fail-photos-garage-fail-3/ |
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| 15:39.01 | Fisker | hey zenzelezz |
| 15:39.08 | Trela | That Jeep just really wanted to off road. |
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| 15:40.16 | DWSR | lol |
| 15:41.14 | alestane | Drivers for Moo cards are till in beta, Peppy, have to make do with Cluck Chips. |
| 15:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | Quacks don't echo. |
| 15:42.31 | zenzelezz | where would we be without Facebook... http://failbook.com/2010/05/17/funny-facebook-fails-marvels-of-modern-technology/ |
| 15:43.04 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/05/18/funny-pictures-video-chicken-cares-for-kittehs/ WTF? |
| 15:46.43 | Fisker | gives Lopeppeppy a lot of shiny buttons |
| 15:46.56 | alestane | Ooh shiny! |
| 15:47.12 | Fisker | web 2.0'd |
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| 15:48.26 | Kraps | http://weeklyworldnews.com/celebs/4783/megan-fox-is-a-man/ |
| 15:48.32 | alestane | Apparently, zenzelezz, we would be stuck in the bathroom. |
| 15:49.07 | Fisker | already done zenzelezz btw |
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| 15:56.04 | zenzelezz | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/05/17/demotivational-posters-email-and-bacon/ |
| 15:56.08 | foxlit | gr, shadow priest! |
| 15:56.11 | p3lim | whats the best/easies way to get a starter pvp kit nowadays? Most of the honor-gathered items require arenapoints and/or arenaranks, so without the starter gear its hard to get that aswell. |
| 15:56.37 | foxlit | "Most of the honor-gathered items require arenapoints and/or arenaranks" << complete and utter bs |
| 15:56.49 | foxlit | There's plenty of gear available for just honor |
| 15:58.14 | foxlit | If you're radically opposed to doing any pvp whatsoever without resilience, buy arena gear with emblems and convert stonekeeper shards from pve bosses to wintergrasp commendations. |
| 15:58.23 | p3lim | neck, bracers, cloak, rings and trinkets |
| 15:58.27 | p3lim | thats just accessories, not gear |
| 15:58.58 | foxlit | p3lim: there's an item for every slot except weapons that is purchasable without stepping foot in the arena. |
| 15:59.15 | p3lim | ilvl 232 or something yeah |
| 15:59.21 | foxlit | But back to my point: grr, shadow priest. |
| 15:59.53 | p3lim | wanted to play with my shaman, and having pve gear for pvp isnt a good idea |
| 15:59.59 | alestane | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-16804.html |
| 16:00.00 | p3lim | thats why I asked in the first place |
| 16:00.03 | Fisker | no u alestane |
| 16:00.05 | Fisker | uuuuuuuuu |
| 16:00.51 | zenzelezz | http://dailysquee.com/2010/05/16/cute-baby-animals-so-many-feelings/ |
| 16:01.18 | foxlit | p3lim: so yeah, honor gear is your answer |
| 16:03.21 | p3lim | though, whats faster? honor or emblems? |
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| 16:03.33 | foxlit | using both is faster. |
| 16:03.51 | zenzelezz | "ElitistArmory got slightly mmo-champion'd." - it just doesn't have the ring that Slashdotted does |
| 16:05.05 | Thunder_Child | honor is faster due to the faster queue times. the one caveat being if you are a tank or healer and can queue dungeons quickly |
| 16:05.15 | Thunder_Child | then it might be equal |
| 16:05.15 | Kaso | we need some generic term for "website has issues when it receives traffic after unexpected publicity" |
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| 16:05.48 | zenzelezz | Kaso: PDoS |
| 16:06.09 | Thunder_Child | heh |
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| 16:06.32 | durcyn | what's wrong with a good old fashioned slashdotting? |
| 16:06.48 | sysosmasster | Hi all, I got a question. is "DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage" the same as "MessageFrame:AddMessage" (only a specific instance of it)? |
| 16:07.09 | zenzelezz | it's basically ChatFrame1:AddMessage |
| 16:07.35 | sysosmasster | ok, checking wowwiki for that than, thnx ;) |
| 16:07.53 | zenzelezz | wait, what are you trying to find out? |
| 16:07.53 | Kaso | yeah DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME is a variable set referencing ChatFrame1 by default |
| 16:08.33 | Kaso | its assigned in ChatFrame.lua iirc |
| 16:08.47 | foxlit | So I just spent the last two hours trying to get a daily battleground win |
| 16:09.00 | durcyn | ChatFrame.lua:6:DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME = ChatFrame1; |
| 16:09.00 | durcyn | FloatingChatFrame.xml:738: DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME = ChatFrame1; |
| 16:09.03 | durcyn | fyi |
| 16:09.16 | durcyn | wonder why that's defined twice, hrm |
| 16:09.19 | sysosmasster | aha, I was looking for that one 2... I'm having problems with getting a slash command to print anything. so thought it prudent to first check its valid calling I'm doing |
| 16:09.53 | sysosmasster | usally a double definition is one for internal , one for global public use |
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| 16:10.13 | foxlit | internal is bad, mmkay? |
| 16:10.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | they define it twice to make sure that it is really defined |
| 16:10.31 | sysosmasster | DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME will not cvhange between versions, the onterone might |
| 16:10.54 | sysosmasster | stadard progrmming pracitise ;) |
| 16:11.05 | sysosmasster | but thnx, I'll look onto it ;) |
| 16:11.20 | foxlit | different semantics, really. |
| 16:11.32 | foxlit | You might want to denote some other chat frame as default |
| 16:11.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | a, a, a = 1, 1,1 - i like setting it 3 times to be safe |
| 16:11.48 | zenzelezz | I write all my output to NON_DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 16:12.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | im scared to know what would happen if you change DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME |
| 16:12.22 | zenzelezz | not much I think |
| 16:12.22 | Kaso | the second declaration in the xml is in the onload for ChatFrameEditBox |
| 16:12.25 | zenzelezz | mostly addons being confused |
| 16:12.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | thinks the world would end. |
| 16:12.35 | Kaso | does that mean each time you createframe one of those it gets reassigned |
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| 16:13.37 | Kraps | " procrastinators of the world UNITE!... tomorrow" |
| 16:13.38 | Kaso | cos if so thats a little stupid |
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| 16:14.49 | Lunessa | station! |
| 16:16.28 | Kraps | hiyo |
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| 16:21.10 | foxlit | It's tempting to create a chat replacement where you could update messages. |
| 16:21.40 | foxlit | So rather than 25 "soandso has selected greed for [loot]", you'd get "Assigning [loot]: 72 Need bids" |
| 16:22.41 | durcyn | i rather like the way greedbeacon does it now |
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| 16:23.12 | Lunessa | foxlit: Or "Party member has spoken in l337 for three comments, squelching." |
| 16:23.26 | foxlit | Lunessa: yes. |
| 16:23.35 | foxlit | some sort of dynamic sanity filtering |
| 16:23.38 | Kraps | Lunessa: or lolcat |
| 16:23.58 | Lunessa | With -per-channel- settings. |
| 16:25.17 | zenzelezz | I noticed in my little homebrew trade chat cleanup addon that it's not enough to weed out LFM/LFG messages, I have to keep a timestamp of when the author spoke... since people now like to divide their spam over five or more lines |
| 16:26.48 | Maldivia | see 3 or more #* etc chars in a row, ignore what that persons says for a few seconds :) |
| 16:26.52 | Lunessa | I've given up on all the global channels. |
| 16:27.06 | zenzelezz | Maldivia: yeah, I do that too |
| 16:27.10 | Lunessa | It doesn't matter what Blizzard does, they basically become barrens chat. |
| 16:27.27 | zenzelezz | and I strip all spaces and see if there's "gold" in the sentence (since "G O L D" was common for a while) |
| 16:27.47 | zenzelezz | ~weather encn |
| 16:28.01 | Lunessa | And it's usually further proof of John Gabriel's Greater Intenrnet Fuckwad Theorem. |
| 16:28.15 | Kraps | Lunessa: try spamthrottle |
| 16:28.35 | foxlit | And today's search for a daily battleground win ends with a 5-base victory in AB after 2.5 hours |
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| 16:28.56 | Lunessa | So, I have general, trade, LFG, and any other "global" channel stuffed into it's own window. |
| 16:29.00 | Kraps | it filters repeated chat for an amount of time that you set |
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| 16:40.42 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.50 | Kraps | http://lightitup.developforwindows.com/?CR_CC=100384013&CR_ID=P085137207 |
| 16:41.04 | Kraps | Fisker: WHAT WHERE |
| 16:41.08 | Fisker | like it's some kind of overly original idea that shouldn't have been implemented to begin with |
| 16:41.09 | Fisker | durr |
| 16:41.39 | Fisker | i wonder if we can finally get the HD downloads we were basically promised this time |
| 16:41.43 | Matsy | lol |
| 16:41.43 | Matsy | Fisker |
| 16:41.51 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 16:41.58 | Matsy | Getting a: 'The following plug-in is unresponsive: Silverlight Plug-In' |
| 16:42.16 | Matsy | nice :( |
| 16:43.43 | Kraps | they fucked up bad last year |
| 16:44.17 | Kraps | 1. directv cut off in the middle of the costume contest |
| 16:44.18 | Thunder_Child | yea, letting all thoes people watch for free |
| 16:44.54 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, have you seen Dogs in Elk? http://web.mit.edu/munch/Public/humor/elk |
| 16:45.04 | Elkano | :? |
| 16:45.35 | Kraps | 2. the audio at the concert suck and it sounded like nerds not appreciating ozzy |
| 16:45.37 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: rofl, no |
| 16:45.40 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 16:45.51 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: what do you mean? |
| 16:46.31 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: i was joking about the fact that there was a link to watch it for free. till they shut it off |
| 16:46.43 | Kraps | ah |
| 16:47.58 | Kraps | guess i'll have to buy the stream again |
| 16:49.11 | Kraps | i was disappointed that i couldnt watch say, the wow lore panel instead of the SC2 panel |
| 16:49.19 | Kraps | or whatever |
| 16:50.10 | Adys | whats the default games path on vista/7? |
| 16:50.13 | Adys | c:/games? |
| 16:51.11 | Thunder_Child | i dont think so, but then i dont use default |
| 16:52.39 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* you tyhink people on glee would know how to sing properly |
| 16:52.44 | Thunder_Child | think* |
| 16:56.06 | Kraps | how much did blizzcon tix cost last year? |
| 16:56.52 | Lunessa | Adys: Usually Public |
| 16:57.00 | Lunessa | Kraps: $125 |
| 16:57.08 | cog|sleep | anyone else unable to access wowprogramming.com? |
| 16:57.27 | Kraps | $150 this time |
| 16:57.49 | Lunessa | cog|work: Hanging for me. |
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| 16:58.36 | zenzelezz | "Connecting" here too |
| 16:58.53 | zenzelezz | this is what you get for employing gnome engineers |
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| 16:59.02 | cog|work | phooey |
| 16:59.39 | cog|work | zenzelezz: i thought cladhaire was a NE ;) |
| 16:59.50 | cog|work | isn't involved with the website |
| 17:00.14 | Lunessa | So, Blizzard store is going to be hammered to death on the 2nd and 5th of June. |
| 17:00.37 | Lopeppeppy | new pets? |
| 17:00.47 | alestane | The original Cladhaire posting toon was a NE rogue IIRC. |
| 17:00.47 | Kraps | lol? |
| 17:00.47 | Lunessa | BlizzCon tix |
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| 17:02.19 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. *nod* I'll stay right the heck away. |
| 17:02.56 | Kraps | http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b196/Starmenclock/csiwarcraft.png |
| 17:03.07 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: you're not going? |
| 17:03.26 | Nechckn | tries to decide if it is really worth the bother, again. |
| 17:03.45 | Lopeppeppy | I currently have no plans to go, Kraps. |
| 17:04.23 | zenzelezz | Kraps: o_O |
| 17:04.54 | Lunessa | needs to work evil magics to convince Lopeppeppy to go. |
| 17:05.51 | Kraps | Lunessa: early reminder, take pics! |
| 17:06.40 | Lopeppeppy | Voooodeeeedoooo? |
| 17:08.22 | Nechckn | Lopeppeppy If I actually am deigned so lucky as to be able to give Blizz $$, I will get you a ticket. Will that be incentive enough? |
| 17:09.10 | alestane | Probably depends whether you can also field her plane fare, I'm afraid. |
| 17:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | Plane, hotel, time off from work, all that. I haven't even let myself know when it is, so I won't feel bad about missing it. |
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| 17:10.06 | Lunessa | The only camera I own at the moment is the one in my iPhone 3G, so... I'll snap shots with it, provided I go. |
| 17:10.14 | Thunder_Child | i guess someone dosent read the topic |
| 17:11.14 | Lopeppeppy | TC, my client doesn't show all the topic, I'm safe! |
| 17:11.25 | zenzelezz | no you're not |
| 17:11.30 | Lopeppeppy | iPhone can take good shots, but only in the right lighting. |
| 17:11.50 | Nechckn | Well.. 1 of 4 parts, I can help with... not sure about calling your boss and asking for time off, but I can even give that a go! =) |
| 17:13.14 | Lopeppeppy | :) I'm thankful that I still have a job. We find out in June if they're cutting vacation benefits. Hence... I'm just not making much for plans, ya know? |
| 17:13.57 | Nechckn | Cutting vacation? Youch! |
| 17:14.16 | Nechckn | Well.. you just let me know, kid. ;-) |
| 17:14.22 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks. :) |
| 17:14.30 | Nechckn | Hehehe |
| 17:16.21 | Lopeppeppy | And then Blizzard taunts me on Facebook. zenzelezz was right, I'm not safe! |
| 17:16.43 | Lopeppeppy | 4 times in a row. FML |
| 17:17.23 | Cide | I'm so looking forward to blizzcon on oct 22 |
| 17:17.25 | Kraps | is it harder to play on a curved keyboard? http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B0009ZBRS0/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0 |
| 17:17.28 | zenzelezz | hey, I only said it once |
| 17:17.35 | Lopeppeppy | I shall beat you, Cide. |
| 17:17.39 | Cide | :) |
| 17:17.45 | Cide | hey, I've never been there. |
| 17:17.50 | Lopeppeppy | Masochist. |
| 17:18.00 | alestane | Rawr? |
| 17:18.01 | Cide | not there as in on your beating table |
| 17:18.05 | Cide | well that too |
| 17:18.08 | Cide | but I meant blizzcon |
| 17:18.11 | nevcairiel | Kraps: apparently some ergonomics experts say once you're used to it, its easier and more relaxed to use, but what do i know |
| 17:18.32 | Lopeppeppy | it has a button for the interwebs, it must be awesome! |
| 17:20.31 | Kraps | would it be harder because the wrist/shoulder need to be turned a bit? |
| 17:20.53 | Lunessa | Kraps: I love those curved/spilt keyboards |
| 17:21.01 | nevcairiel | like i said,its supposed to be easier |
| 17:21.06 | nevcairiel | but i've never personally used one |
| 17:21.27 | nevcairiel | when i look at my hands, they do face the keyboard in a certain angle that would fit those keyboards |
| 17:22.15 | zenzelezz | you'd have to adjust your hand/finger movement |
| 17:22.17 | Kraps | Lunessa: for gaming too? i know they're supposed to help with typing... |
| 17:22.26 | Nechckn | Using a regular one, with the back actually lower can help, too. |
| 17:22.35 | Lopeppeppy | never type while gaming? |
| 17:22.37 | Lunessa | Kraps: I play on that keybaord. |
| 17:22.38 | Nechckn | Instead of jacked up, like most of them are. |
| 17:23.00 | Kraps | i think i'll get it |
| 17:23.16 | Lunessa | Actually, I play on one with a more pronounced split. |
| 17:23.16 | Kraps | the volume control is important |
| 17:23.19 | Kraps | :) |
| 17:24.32 | Kraps | http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B000A6PPOK/ref=cm_ciu_pdp_images_0?ie=UTF8&index=0 for superpowerd web browsing? 9_9 |
| 17:24.45 | Lunessa | Kraps: I use this one: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=043 |
| 17:25.12 | Kraps | see my link :) |
| 17:25.18 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 17:25.35 | Lunessa | I like everything but those buttons. I usually turn them off. |
| 17:25.54 | Fisker | hey Lunessa |
| 17:26.03 | Fisker | that keyboard sucks :( |
| 17:26.06 | Dashkal | ~wowalert |
| 17:26.07 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 17:26.33 | Lunessa | Fisker: And you say this because to you everything sucks troll-boy. |
| 17:28.47 | Kraps | not sure i need a wristrest |
| 17:29.47 | Lunessa | Kraps: Ergo keyboards and trackballs prevented me from having to change professions and giving up gaming. :) |
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| 17:31.13 | Nechckn | Lunessa a trackball? |
| 17:31.29 | Nechckn | I would be ever-so-angry |
| 17:31.30 | Lunessa | Yeah. I don't use a standard mouse. |
| 17:31.37 | Nechckn | But, understandable if you need it |
| 17:31.53 | Lunessa | http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice_pointers/trackballs/devices/166 |
| 17:32.34 | Kraps | what do you use the trackball fot? |
| 17:32.38 | Kraps | for* |
| 17:32.45 | Lunessa | In place of a mouse. |
| 17:32.46 | Nechckn | I have one of those, actually.. but I just cannot use it. |
| 17:32.56 | Lunessa | Nechckn: I can't live without it. |
| 17:33.18 | Nechckn | Gotcha, and that is cool. Nice that you found something that works for you. |
| 17:33.23 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa preaches the ways of the trackball. |
| 17:33.32 | Lunessa | It's funny to watch mouse-users try to figure it out at my desk. They slide it around and shit. |
| 17:34.00 | Lunessa | I would like one with more buttons - but... |
| 17:34.14 | Nechckn | I have this thing where my hands/fingers have a bit of a shake to 'em, so I think that is why the trackballs and I do not get along. |
| 17:34.51 | Lunessa | This one you control the ball with your thumb. Very fast, very accurate, and doesn't require large motions. |
| 17:35.44 | Nechckn | soldering with me is always an adventure |
| 17:35.57 | Lopeppeppy | *gigglesnark badPeppy* |
| 17:35.57 | Kraps | does prtscrn take screenshots of your desktop? |
| 17:36.18 | Lopeppeppy | if that's what I have on my screen it does, Kraps.... |
| 17:36.31 | Lunessa | might have to give Lopeppeppy a spanking, and not the fun kind. |
| 17:36.38 | Kraps | where do the screens go? |
| 17:36.58 | Lopeppeppy | Clipboard. Paste them into something. |
| 17:38.03 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/dreams_and_reality.jpg |
| 17:38.09 | Nechckn | Bah... making user manuals with screen shots, especially when the whole screen changes with each selection. |
| 17:38.24 | Lopeppeppy | I hate, hate, HATE doing the FAQs with screenshots. |
| 17:40.19 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/football_caricature.jpg |
| 17:41.05 | tekkub | <3 skitch |
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| 17:41.25 | tekkub | Jinq was okey on winders, but skitch is better ^^ |
| 17:41.27 | Nechckn | mikma that dreams one is very good |
| 17:44.12 | Nechckn | tekkub I am just glad that you can now record "video" of screen happenings. Makes for better understanding. |
| 17:44.25 | tekkub | I *hate* videos |
| 17:44.50 | tekkub | it takes a matter of seconds to skim text/images to see if it's what you need |
| 17:44.57 | tekkub | and you can copy/paste them |
| 17:44.59 | Nechckn | Well, saying - This is how you open a ticket, assign it to users, etc. |
| 17:45.11 | Lunessa | skitch? |
| 17:45.12 | Nechckn | That is much easier with a 5 sec clip. |
| 17:45.17 | tekkub | skitch |
| 17:45.43 | Lunessa | http://skitch.com/ |
| 17:46.18 | tekkub | http://img.skitch.com/20100518-f6dirgap78qdbmbnrieg5eextw.png |
| 17:46.40 | tekkub | skitch sarcastic arrows >>>> all |
| 17:48.31 | Nechckn | tekkub We usually make both types. Some folks absorb the material better with the videos, some from the static docs. |
| 17:48.33 | mikma | http://thepiratebay.org/ |
| 17:48.50 | tekkub | Nechckn: that is acceptable |
| 17:49.01 | tekkub | it's the video only people that make me assrage |
| 17:49.07 | Nechckn | Oh lord, no. |
| 17:49.17 | tekkub | I'm not going to sit through 5 minutes of your nerd ass talking to find the little command I need |
| 17:50.58 | Lopeppeppy | Half of my sheeple need the video to walk them through, half prefer the docs. So we make both as well. |
| 17:51.11 | Lopeppeppy | We do videos with Captivate, no sound needed, just add little word balloons. |
| 17:51.28 | Lunessa | I write docs. I use lots of screen shots and whitespace. |
| 17:51.43 | Lunessa | Someone else around here sometimes makes videos. |
| 17:51.44 | alestane | Captiviate is nice. |
| 17:51.47 | alestane | sp* |
| 17:52.15 | Nechckn | sound is the devil, especially when you need to worry about localization |
| 17:52.25 | tekkub | adobe... nope not an option ^^ |
| 17:52.27 | Lunessa | alestane: we use that a lot on campus. |
| 17:52.28 | Nechckn | and none of the clients want to pay for a native speaker |
| 17:53.08 | Kraps | http://kuvaton.com/browse/14739/real_mans_fap_roulette.jpg |
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| 17:54.12 | alestane | Incidentally, while I love the Facebook Privacy Scanner, has anyone checked to make sure that it doesn't also extract all your information and send it to Russia or something? |
| 17:54.14 | Kraps | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/dirty_mind10.jpg |
| 17:54.38 | Lopeppeppy | I haven't used it, because I have no idea what it does. :) |
| 17:55.03 | Lunessa | alestane: I've skimmed the source. |
| 17:55.06 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, don't forget your NSFW tags. *poke* |
| 17:55.07 | alestane | It's supposed to just look at your Facebook privacy settings, and warn you which ones are sharing your info with world+dog. |
| 17:55.17 | Kraps | :/ |
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| 17:55.22 | alestane | And link you to where you can change them. |
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| 17:55.44 | alestane | Given that Facebook's privacy settings are now stored under about five headings, it's kind of nice. |
| 17:56.07 | Lopeppeppy | 70 settings, 150 different toggles? Something ridiculous like that. |
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| 17:56.41 | Nechckn | btw... did y'all see where you can set it to record different locations from where your acct has logged in? |
| 17:56.56 | Lunessa | It caught something I'd missed, and I'm pretty hard-assed about checking my settings. |
| 17:57.05 | alestane | So it tells you which ones to look out for and helps you go there. |
| 17:57.08 | Nechckn | Thought that was sort of nifty, as a last line sort of daaaammn warning. |
| 17:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/05/12/business/facebook-privacy.html |
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| 17:59.51 | Nechckn | policy longer than the US Constitution... awesome! |
| 18:00.39 | zenzelezz | well, constitutions aren't so big... it's the rest of the laws that are long |
| 18:01.16 | Nechckn | Not that it is some widely known value/really relevant, but cute that they included it. |
| 18:01.57 | Nechckn | true, zenzelezz, much for the same reason their policy is so long. =) |
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| 18:02.34 | zenzelezz | I think they should compare it with the GPL :-p |
| 18:02.49 | zenzelezz | just in length |
| 18:02.52 | Nechckn | Since you have to spell out every conceivable thing, rather than relying on intent. |
| 18:03.16 | cbreak | facebook sucks. |
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| 18:03.30 | cbreak | there was an interesting discussion on it on TwiT |
| 18:03.51 | Nechckn | I don't think many here would argue that it is great, cbreak |
| 18:05.05 | Nechckn | linky? |
| 18:06.47 | cbreak | http://twit.tv/248 |
| 18:07.17 | Nechckn | I love Leo |
| 18:07.24 | Nechckn | maybe not love, but still... |
| 18:07.39 | Nechckn | He and Patrick were good on ScreenSavers. |
| 18:08.49 | cbreak | I do not know that. I only listen to that twit thing because of security now. |
| 18:10.06 | Nechckn | I forget to check in, though... they usually have pretty good, balanced discussions/coverage. |
| 18:10.22 | Nechckn | This will make good fodder for lunchtime, gracias!! |
| 18:11.58 | Fisker | i hate radoslawn |
| 18:12.20 | Nechckn | i hate fiskerisms |
| 18:13.12 | Nechckn | luv2h8 ;-) |
| 18:14.29 | Fisker | you think you're radoslawn? |
| 18:14.37 | Kraps | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/facebook_haiti.jpg |
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| 18:15.42 | Fisker | meh Kraps |
| 18:15.59 | Fisker | i find the person who spammed the donate text thinking it didn't actually cost anything much more hilarious |
| 18:17.58 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 18:18.01 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129174603779969754.jpg |
| 18:21.06 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 18:33.03 | olafski | calling it 170 different options makes it sound a bit worse than it really is tbh |
| 18:33.44 | olafski | they could've made 50 options with yes/no, but instead they chose to give you more choices.. but it's still 50 choices |
| 18:33.51 | olafski | 50 options* |
| 18:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | 50 choices is still bloody ridiculous, especially since some of them aren't even on a page you'd expect them to be on. |
| 18:35.05 | olafski | I guess people will always find something to hate :) |
| 18:35.17 | olafski | I looked at them last week and didn't notice a problem |
| 18:35.36 | olafski | that scanny thing also told me that I was nearly safe |
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| 18:43.13 | Lopeppeppy | Always trust the scanny thing! |
| 18:43.34 | Lopeppeppy | I'm painstaking deleting old form results, by hand... I hate our database. Hate hate hate. |
| 18:43.42 | Ackis | did you try teh scanny thing Lopeppeppy? |
| 18:43.45 | Fisker | no frozen yoghurt until thursday :( |
| 18:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | No frozen yogurt for 2-6 months! :( |
| 18:44.27 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, I will not use that scanny thing, you never know where it's been. |
| 18:45.37 | alestane | That's why I was glad to see Lunessa says he's at least looked under the hood. |
| 18:46.17 | Lopeppeppy | lunessa is much more persistant than I am about these things. |
| 18:51.04 | alestane | Kind of sad that when something purports to save us from something else, the first thing we have to do is suspect it of trying to take advantage of us just as badly. |
| 18:51.10 | alestane | True, though. |
| 18:52.39 | Lopeppeppy | Hearing the grand boss talk about "file structure" gives me the hives. |
| 18:53.24 | Matsy | LCD Soundsystem is going to be mineeeee, nice! |
| 18:53.53 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 18:54.07 | Matsy | I love that music, and I will finally see it right now |
| 18:54.16 | Matsy | well, end of august! |
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| 19:01.25 | Fisker | i came Ackis |
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| 19:04.51 | NightHawkTheSane | olafski: wait till you see facebook's new privacy control center: http://www.airbagindustries.com/archives/airbag/meltdown.php |
| 19:04.55 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: TMI |
| 19:12.27 | Fisker | no Thunder_Child |
| 19:12.33 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I went through it yesterday. Ther'es like a million fucking options in there |
| 19:13.10 | Fisker | hehe yeah |
| 19:15.00 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: That spoof article isn't too damn far from the truth |
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| 19:24.06 | Fisker | oooh sweet |
| 19:24.08 | Fisker | shooter sequel |
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| 19:51.50 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/no-longer-an-eye-for-an-eye/5390 |
| 19:58.37 | Fisker | old |
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| 20:18.48 | Kraps | can you gift the free Portal? |
| 20:21.31 | ZorbaBeta | kraps, I doubt it |
| 20:22.55 | NightHawkTheSane | not sure i see the point |
| 20:26.42 | Dagmar | As far as I can tell it's only free until the 24th--probably to get a huge base of testers |
| 20:27.11 | Dagmar | Not necessarily a bad thing |
| 20:27.13 | Kraps | i'm guessing this is a good deal http://www.amazon.com/WarCraft-Archive-Blizzard-Entertainment/dp/1416525823/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274214159&sr=1-3 |
| 20:29.14 | Nechckn | llcoolj has a book out |
| 20:29.23 | Nechckn | ahahaha |
| 20:30.42 | Nechckn | bah.. never mind, something about working out. Thought that was an odd thing for him. |
| 20:31.23 | Kraps | Nechckn: apparently he has a bunch of them :0 |
| 20:32.18 | Nechckn | Well, I guess he needs to keep the $ rolling in, somehow. |
| 20:33.41 | Kraps | why is The Last Guardian in that book? |
| 20:34.14 | Lopeppeppy | To drive you mad. |
| 20:35.05 | Kraps | it was just a question :( |
| 20:35.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Stew-a (~Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753) |
| 20:37.01 | alestane | And you got just an answer. |
| 20:38.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Stew_a (~Stewart@unafilliated/stewa/x-008753) |
| 20:41.22 | Thunder_Child | just maybe not the one you wanted |
| 20:42.14 | Kraps | it didnt make sense in context... |
| 20:44.28 | Thunder_Child | this channel has no context |
| 20:44.35 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 20:45.16 | Kraps | mmk |
| 20:46.46 | Fisker | can you feel the cold hands of death upon your heart Kraps ? |
| 20:47.43 | Kraps | not really fisker, i'll just dispel it |
| 20:49.15 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5541256/just-how-fast-is-steam-on-the-mac |
| 20:49.29 | Arrowmaster | doesnt OSX only have like OpenGL 2.0 or something really old? |
| 20:54.39 | cog|work | http://cogwheel.info/wow/McRun.html |
| 20:57.44 | Arrowmaster | you are crazy |
| 20:58.15 | cog|work | indeed :) |
| 20:59.31 | cog|work | as i mentioned in the wowi thread ;) http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32575 |
| 21:02.05 | Matsy | Has anyone here tried EFI-X? |
| 21:02.09 | NeoTron | yo dawg, there's a cat on your cat - http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/5/3/129173984863828587.jpg |
| 21:02.33 | Arrowmaster | Matsy: EFI-X? |
| 21:02.33 | Gintaro | EFI-X? |
| 21:02.37 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 21:02.45 | Matsy | A module you have to insert on one of the USB-buses on your mainboard |
| 21:02.53 | Matsy | That allows you to install OS-X on almost any computer |
| 21:02.57 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 21:03.07 | Gintaro | Then no |
| 21:03.08 | Arrowmaster | one of those |
| 21:03.32 | Matsy | I was thinking of buying one, but no one I know has one, so I don't know if it actually works |
| 21:03.49 | Arrowmaster | thats really abusing the EFI name since OSX has nothing to do with EFI |
| 21:03.51 | Gintaro | Why would you want to anyway |
| 21:03.59 | Matsy | It's not just OS-X, Arrowmaster |
| 21:04.11 | Matsy | But, I would be using it for OSX. |
| 21:04.20 | Matsy | Gintaro, easier iPhone development :) |
| 21:05.24 | Gintaro | Arrowmaster, apparently that device takes over the entire bios, at least the pro version does |
| 21:05.29 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 21:06.10 | Arrowmaster | nah it probably justs acts like a hypervisor |
| 21:06.56 | Nechckn | get a Mac, tax write off - and you know there will be no funkiness. |
| 21:08.08 | Fisker | just get rebel efi |
| 21:08.09 | Thunder_Child | ya, but then you would have a mac |
| 21:08.12 | Thunder_Child | and no money |
| 21:08.25 | Matsy | Nechckn, I already have a mac for my iPhone development |
| 21:08.38 | Matsy | But, meh, I would want to have one at my dad as well |
| 21:08.44 | Fisker | what is it cog|work ? |
| 21:08.56 | Matsy | But it seems overkill to buy one .. just for my dad's. |
| 21:09.17 | Fisker | blah cog|work |
| 21:09.30 | Gintaro | Matsy, I think there are some OSS alternatives for that |
| 21:09.43 | Matsy | For iPhone development? |
| 21:09.48 | Matsy | Nothing serious, really ;p |
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| 21:10.11 | Nechckn | Sorry, thought you meant for work or something. If you just need something to do a few tweaks here and there, I guess whatever works. |
| 21:10.30 | cog|work | moos at Fisker |
| 21:10.32 | Matsy | Nah, for work, we indeed use Apple products |
| 21:10.41 | Fisker | feast your eyes cog|work |
| 21:12.14 | Gintaro | Matsy, no, for that USB bootload thingy |
| 21:13.04 | Matsy | Oh. |
| 21:13.12 | Matsy | Nah, nothing serious for that either |
| 21:13.15 | Matsy | It's either Rebel EFI or that |
| 21:13.27 | Arrowmaster | the product description is funny, half those things are standard things you would expect to find on any piece of hardware |
| 21:14.23 | Arrowmaster | Matsy: http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/10/23/psystar-rebel-efi-isnt-magic-wont-install-os-x-on-any-machine/ |
| 21:14.29 | Arrowmaster | same will apply to the EFI-X |
| 21:15.04 | Matsy | I know |
| 21:15.10 | Matsy | But, it will install on the machines we use |
| 21:15.20 | Matsy | we only use mainstream hardware here |
| 21:16.10 | Arrowmaster | motherboard manufacturers need to start using EFI more, afaik the only things that do are like p55(?) boards and some intel brand stuff |
| 21:16.22 | cbreak | and apple's |
| 21:16.34 | Arrowmaster | right, since OSX requires it |
| 21:17.07 | cbreak | OS X also boots without efi, if you have OpenFirmware |
| 21:17.13 | cbreak | (old version of OS X though) |
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| 21:17.24 | Arrowmaster | EFI and GPT are the future, need to stop clinging to outdated BIOS and DOS MBR |
| 21:17.25 | Gintaro | If it's work work I'd just get an apple |
| 21:17.58 | Fisker | jnwhitehmen |
| 21:18.10 | Matsy | oh |
| 21:18.12 | Matsy | sleep time for me |
| 21:18.22 | Matsy | Good night |
| 21:18.23 | Gintaro | As long as linux supports it I don't care how it works as long as it works |
| 21:18.40 | Fisker | i disagree Arrowmaster |
| 21:18.44 | Fisker | we should keep clinging to it |
| 21:19.19 | Fisker | btw would native EFI support mean we don't have to use rebel efi or does it still do some stuff to try and mask hardware or shit? |
| 21:19.24 | Arrowmaster | yes so we can all have to format 2TB+ drives with multiple partitions |
| 21:19.47 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: those do other things to make OSX work |
| 21:20.42 | Gintaro | Hah, didn't know BIOS limited the partition size |
| 21:20.53 | Gintaro | I guess it'll be a problem once we run into it |
| 21:21.13 | Fisker | "limited?" |
| 21:21.32 | Gintaro | GPT does not suffer from many of the limitations of MBR. In particular, the MBR limits on the number and size of disk partitions (up to 4 partitions per disk, up to 2 TB per partition) are relaxed. |
| 21:21.35 | Gintaro | apparently |
| 21:21.48 | Arrowmaster | BIOS + MBR limits the bootable partition to 2TB |
| 21:22.04 | Fisker | It's not like they sat down at a table saying "Hey in 2010 people will have 2TB, lets be jerks and limit their choices" |
| 21:22.19 | Gintaro | 768k will be enough for everyone! |
| 21:22.21 | Fisker | unless i'm the one who came up with the standard |
| 21:22.24 | Fisker | no Gintaro |
| 21:22.30 | Fisker | just, no. |
| 21:22.32 | Gintaro | :P |
| 21:22.48 | Arrowmaster | the current partition table stuff is from fucking DOS |
| 21:22.56 | cbreak | you don't need to use it |
| 21:22.58 | Nechckn | Fisker that is exactly what they did. |
| 21:22.58 | cbreak | right? |
| 21:23.01 | cbreak | just use something else |
| 21:23.08 | Fisker | oh Nechckn :/ |
| 21:23.25 | Fisker | well i'm travelling back in time to preserve the spacetime continuum then |
| 21:23.34 | Fisker | since that could only be by my design |
| 21:23.36 | Nechckn | They said, why would anyone need more? Neva! |
| 21:23.49 | Nechckn | I do think you had a hand in it... |
| 21:24.21 | Fisker | anyway giev efi bios for my motherboard |
| 21:24.28 | Fisker | and no i don't wanna hear it |
| 21:24.50 | Gintaro | lol Linus doesn't like EFI very much in this one post |
| 21:24.53 | Arrowmaster | we still start partitons on sector 63 because historically that skipped the inner track |
| 21:25.10 | Arrowmaster | Gintaro: how old is the post? |
| 21:25.17 | Gintaro | 2k6! |
| 21:25.35 | Arrowmaster | well i have to leave for class |
| 21:25.46 | Nechckn | enjoy! |
| 21:30.40 | Gintaro | wait a minute, why does EFI have filesystem support? That's just silly |
| 21:31.36 | *** join/#wowuidev myrkraverk (~johann@unaffiliated/myrkraverk) |
| 21:33.13 | Fisker | why Gintaro ? |
| 21:33.43 | Gintaro | What is more likely to change, the firmware or the software? |
| 21:34.02 | Gintaro | firmware being EFI software being the FS |
| 21:34.54 | Fisker | both can be updated |
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| 21:35.11 | Gintaro | Though one is more risky then the other |
| 21:35.40 | Kraps | cog|work: |
| 21:35.55 | Gintaro | It just seems silly to me to include such a thing |
| 21:36.34 | cog|work | Kraps: |
| 21:36.56 | Kraps | what "server" does it save the addons on? |
| 21:36.59 | Gintaro | Meh, but what do I know |
| 21:37.03 | Gintaro | time for some movies |
| 21:37.14 | cog|work | Kraps: whatever server your macros are stored on :P |
| 21:37.55 | Kraps | blizzes server? :o |
| 21:38.01 | Gintaro | You should have named it WoWCloud |
| 21:38.39 | cog|work | it was originally MacRun (as in MacroRun), but i needed a couple extra chars in the main macro (plus i was pronouncing it McRun anyway) |
| 21:39.18 | foxlit | use mails. |
| 21:41.05 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: huh, thats neat. |
| 21:42.13 | NightHawkTheSane | also, reading your 'code shortening tips' reads a lot like 'perl golf tips' |
| 21:42.23 | cog|work | heh |
| 21:43.59 | Gintaro | damn you crappy movie qualities |
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| 21:52.36 | Fisker | work|cog |
| 21:52.56 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 21:53.07 | kd3 | hm? |
| 21:53.21 | Fisker | "hey"? |
| 21:56.03 | cog|work | lua>5%4 |
| 21:56.30 | foxlit | 1 |
| 21:56.53 | cog|work | couldn't remember if lua used % for mod |
| 21:58.10 | Fisker | oh but you could cog|work |
| 21:58.15 | Fisker | or should i say work|cog? |
| 21:59.13 | Fisker | no no no no cog|work |
| 21:59.30 | Marla | hi Fisker |
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| 21:59.31 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 21:59.35 | Fisker | hey Marla |
| 21:59.40 | DWSR | Shadowed: What'd you do? |
| 21:59.44 | Fisker | the dark blood coursing within? |
| 21:59.45 | cog|work | Hipeppeppy |
| 21:59.52 | Shadowed | read mmoc |
| 22:00.05 | DWSR | You got Slashdot'd? |
| 22:00.09 | Fisker | Shadowed |
| 22:00.18 | Fisker | It's cut demanding time |
| 22:01.13 | DWSR | Shadowed: Someone said something about switching from Ruby? |
| 22:01.20 | Shadowed | they're stupid |
| 22:01.25 | DWSR | I was like "?", then I was like "?". |
| 22:01.46 | DWSR | Just not enough capacity to fulfill demand? |
| 22:01.51 | Fisker | not as stupid as DWSR though Shadowed |
| 22:02.03 | Fisker | i heard you're switching from ruby to pascal |
| 22:02.05 | Fisker | is that true? |
| 22:04.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi there! |
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| 22:06.36 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i just alt+tabed instead of tabing to change targets |
| 22:06.55 | Thunder_Child | twice in a row |
| 22:07.30 | foxlit | SFF tooltip should update with new mount speed :/ |
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| 22:20.28 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:28.32 | Lopeppeppy | wants some fish too. |
| 22:30.17 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 22:30.41 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Shirik. |
| 22:30.44 | Lopeppeppy | How's a things? |
| 22:30.49 | Shirik | still on vacation |
| 22:30.52 | Shirik | fun pics though |
| 22:31.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for pictures! Been up in the balloon yet? |
| 22:31.29 | Shirik | yup |
| 22:31.39 | Shirik | I'm way behind on pictures from that trip |
| 22:31.42 | Shirik | only uploaded one so far |
| 22:31.53 | Shirik | http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com/art/Sun-on-the-Rocks-164396240 |
| 22:31.59 | Lopeppeppy | .... how can I live an adventurous life through you if you don't show me my pictures? |
| 22:32.10 | Shirik | :( |
| 22:32.10 | Lopeppeppy | Did I show you mine? I forget. |
| 22:32.16 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 22:34.54 | Lopeppeppy | I approve of our vacation destination, you chose well. That's an awesome picture. |
| 22:35.47 | Kraps | hot air balloon eh? |
| 22:37.40 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtuxax8Dtk4&playnext_from=TL&videos=0FrT0PMxqRc |
| 22:39.09 | Kraps | nice http://darkroommaster.deviantart.com/art/Sedona-Rocks-164517800 |
| 22:39.30 | Shirik | eh |
| 22:39.33 | Shirik | I'm not happy with that |
| 22:40.03 | Shirik | also |
| 22:40.04 | Shirik | kraps |
| 22:40.11 | Lopeppeppy | It has some interest, but it doesn't reach back far enough to the rocks. It's more a picture of the scrub. :) |
| 22:40.14 | Shirik | revision deletion was enabled today! |
| 22:40.14 | Shirik | yay |
| 22:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | wat |
| 22:40.47 | Kraps | whats that do? |
| 22:43.05 | Shirik | Kraps: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Shirik/Revdel&action=history |
| 22:43.06 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy1 (~Mike@c-68-38-51-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:43.11 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=User:Shirik/Revdel |
| 22:43.23 | kd3 | it's oversight but not so much |
| 22:43.30 | Shirik | ^ |
| 22:43.39 | Shirik | oversight but visible to all admins |
| 22:43.47 | Kraps | what does this mean? |
| 22:43.49 | Kraps | A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You can stop the script now, or you can continue to see if the script will complete. |
| 22:43.51 | Kraps | Script: chrome://global/content/bindings/browser.xml:0 |
| 22:43.53 | Shirik | uh |
| 22:43.58 | Shirik | that means your computer dun broked |
| 22:44.19 | Kraps | computer, not browser? |
| 22:44.21 | kd3 | I still don't get it. why not just delete the article the regular way and restore the page without the unwanted revisions? |
| 22:44.56 | p3lim | anyone know where I can create an arena team? |
| 22:45.07 | Thunder_Child | dal sewers |
| 22:45.40 | Shirik | kd3: Imagine ANI |
| 22:45.48 | Shirik | That page CAN'T be deleted |
| 22:45.56 | kd3 | but, but. I wanna break the server |
| 22:45.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:46.05 | kd3 | like deleting the sandbox |
| 22:46.15 | Shirik | besides, they also want the ability to see that someone deleted a revision |
| 22:46.31 | Shirik | deleting and restoring causes a bit of an oversight in that nobody except admins really know anything is supposed to be there |
| 22:46.36 | Shirik | it just kinda disappears into oblivion |
| 22:46.49 | Shirik | At http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Shirik/Revdel&action=history it's extremely obvious that I altered 2 things |
| 22:49.27 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Revision_deletion |
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| 22:49.37 | Kraps | cool shiz |
| 22:52.28 | cog|work | Shirik: wtb approval |
| 22:52.32 | cog|work | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16758-AutoMcRun.html |
| 22:53.35 | Shirik | virus detected |
| 22:53.36 | Shirik | baninating |
| 22:53.44 | cog|work | ONOES! |
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| 22:56.09 | Amarande | Sweet Elune, remind me never to use an electric razor again |
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| 22:59.09 | Cide | <Lopeppeppy> Did I show you mine? |
| 23:00.05 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
| 23:01.23 | Shirik | Amarande: I have never found an electric razor I liked |
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| 23:02.04 | Amarande | Shirik: mine pretty much quit on me and got to the "it only pulls your hair" stage of fail |
| 23:02.08 | Amarande | so I had to go to work scruffy |
| 23:02.22 | Amarande | and of course today was also when they had a manager's meeting with the DM and other bigwigs |
| 23:02.28 | Amarande | so I get chewed out by the manager :| |
| 23:02.45 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, most of the guys I know use their electric for emergencies and touch ups, and a blade for real shaving. |
| 23:02.50 | Fisker | you cannot stop me |
| 23:03.07 | Fisker | i use electric for shaving |
| 23:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | You would. |
| 23:03.14 | NightHawkTheSane | that reminds me, i need to shave this evening |
| 23:03.17 | Lopeppeppy | cog|work, you're insane. |
| 23:03.25 | Fisker | just stick 2 metal thingies into each hole |
| 23:03.25 | Fisker | bam |
| 23:04.38 | cog|work | =D |
| 23:04.44 | Fisker | hey work|cog |
| 23:04.50 | cog|work | D= |
| 23:05.11 | Fisker | no D='s |
| 23:07.18 | Thunder_Child | razers are for wusses, real men use a sharp stone |
| 23:07.38 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle snark* Hole. |
| 23:08.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: no, REAL men don't shave. :P |
| 23:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew. |
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| 23:09.53 | airtonix | real men can't shave... |
| 23:10.07 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: real men simply will their hair to fall off huh |
| 23:10.27 | airtonix | there is no substance known that is hard enough to perform the job |
| 23:10.35 | Amarande | I've considered risking applying nair to the face. lol |
| 23:10.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ... do it. |
| 23:10.50 | NightHawkTheSane | let me know how that goes. |
| 23:10.56 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, don't. |
| 23:11.03 | daev` | probably give you a rash |
| 23:11.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: shush, it'll be funnier this way |
| 23:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | I think they make a similar product for facial hair. But don't put Nair on your face. Ev-ar. |
| 23:11.50 | Lopeppeppy | I know a guy once, tried to use it to go all nekkid down below the belt. Poor, poor, poor guy. |
| 23:12.02 | Amarande | Yeah, I probably don't want a horrible rash :| |
| 23:13.59 | airtonix | is nair some kind of nanite ? |
| 23:14.07 | NightHawkTheSane | google it. :P |
| 23:14.19 | Fisker | goodbye cruel world |
| 23:14.25 | airtonix | macfags stole my google |
| 23:14.28 | NightHawkTheSane | goodbye cruel fisker. |
| 23:14.52 | Fisker | :( |
| 23:15.00 | Fisker | EXPLAIN EXPLAIN EXPLAIN |
| 23:15.13 | NightHawkTheSane | EXTERMINATE |
| 23:15.19 | airtonix | ... |
| 23:15.30 | Fisker | This month and the next one will be Dalek month for me |
| 23:15.37 | airtonix | i dont like the dr who references here. |
| 23:15.45 | Fisker | EXPLAIN |
| 23:16.00 | airtonix | when your mother met your father... |
| 23:16.04 | NightHawkTheSane | dalek month, eh? |
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| 23:16.13 | NightHawkTheSane | are there enough episodes/serials to do that? probably.. |
| 23:17.58 | airtonix | pkill fisker |
| 23:18.24 | Fisker | EXPLAIN |
| 23:18.31 | airtonix | UNPURE! |
| 23:18.37 | Fisker | EXPLAINÂ |
| 23:19.06 | airtonix | you have that macro'd to a key don't you |
| 23:19.08 | Fisker | no |
| 23:19.10 | airtonix | -_- |
| 23:19.21 | Fisker | EXPLAINÂ |
| 23:20.01 | Fisker | airtonix would you care to EXPLAIN EXPLAIN EXPLAIN about your macfags stealing your google statement? |
| 23:20.48 | airtonix | well apparently when you installed steam on your machine it caused a time parrellax and google dissapeared from my botnet |
| 23:22.46 | Fisker | oh |
| 23:22.46 | Fisker | k |
| 23:24.54 | Fisker | hehe |
| 23:25.09 | Fisker | that justin guy with the macfag shit has barely had any visitors on any of his movies |
| 23:25.25 | Fisker | most of them are <50 views, and those above are probably just people looking through his channel post-steam hate |
| 23:25.29 | Fisker | lolol |
| 23:25.32 | airtonix | except his steamfail |
| 23:26.07 | Jerub | http://gem-session.com/2010/04/the-greatest-bug-i-never-fixed |
| 23:26.41 | airtonix | Justin : The New Face of Faction MacFag |
| 23:27.23 | Corrodias | "Because any form of network communication was forbidden by the addon API" -- what? |
| 23:27.26 | Corrodias | is not. |
| 23:27.41 | airtonix | loool |
| 23:27.59 | airtonix | also there's a mum joke in there |
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| 23:28.22 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:28.34 | WobWork | Jerub: if they'd used AceComm, they wouldn't have run into that problem =P |
| 23:28.48 | WobWork | I even remember ckk getting his toon smashed over and over again to test it =P |
| 23:29.00 | ckknight | hmm? |
| 23:29.13 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 23:29.16 | Jerub | 09:26 < Jerub> http://gem-session.com/2010/04/the-greatest-bug-i-never-fixed |
| 23:29.16 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 23:29.58 | Fisker | fail Jerub |
| 23:37.08 | Jerub | Fisker: i repasted the url for ckk because he joined |
| 23:37.20 | ckknight | yea |
| 23:37.38 | ckknight | replaced 's' with '$' and 'S' with something else |
| 23:37.41 | ckknight | and other such things |
| 23:38.01 | Fisker | EXTERMINATE |
| 23:38.11 | Lopeppeppy | EXSANGUINATE |
| 23:38.14 | Fisker | no |
| 23:38.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. Blood everywhere. |
| 23:38.28 | Dagmar | EXFOLIATE |
| 23:39.08 | Dagmar | ^-- Vidaleks |
| 23:39.33 | Lopeppeppy | The doorway in the cellar of the overlook shimmers like an instance portal. Don't go into the light, Jack!! |
| 23:40.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Nechckn (~N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Admin/Nechckn) |
| 23:40.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
| 23:42.28 | WobWork | EX$ANGUINATE |
| 23:42.56 | Lopeppeppy | ... lacks something, WobWork. |
| 23:42.56 | WobWork | Lacks the same ring as Ke$ha? |
| 23:43.08 | Lopeppeppy | She needs to be rung all right. Stupid bit. |
| 23:43.22 | NightHawkTheSane | agrees with Lopeppeppy |
| 23:51.22 | Shirik | wait |
| 23:51.25 | Shirik | is that really what her name is? |
| 23:51.32 | Shirik | No wonder I was never able to figure it out |
| 23:51.40 | Shirik | my XM radio says "Ke ha" |
| 23:51.49 | Shirik | I guess it can't figure out how to display $ |
| 23:51.49 | Lopeppeppy | It's what she goes by, like Prince when he was a symbol or something. |
| 23:51.50 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | I calls her Stupid Bitch. |
| 23:51.57 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:52.07 | Fisker | why won't you Shirik me? |
| 23:52.16 | Shirik | never on a first date |
| 23:52.20 | airtonix | lulz |
| 23:52.32 | WobWork | http://tweetree.com/neilhimself?max_id=14246993563&page=5 |
| 23:52.40 | WobWork | Q&A by Neil about American Gods |
| 23:52.52 | airtonix | neil the hippy? |
| 23:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | he'll never answer the important question! |
| 23:53.11 | airtonix | 42! |
| 23:53.48 | WobWork | Gaiman =) |
| 23:53.50 | WobWork | but yes! |
| 23:53.52 | WobWork | he never will |
| 23:54.13 | Jerub | i don't even remember american gods. |
| 23:54.16 | Jerub | i'm sure i've read it. |
| 23:54.48 | Lopeppeppy | re-read it then. |
| 23:55.14 | Jerub | meh |
| 23:55.18 | Fisker | EXPLAIN |
| 23:55.21 | Jerub | i'm not american |
| 23:55.30 | Fisker | oh well that clears up everything |
| 23:55.33 | Jerub | ;) |
| 23:55.36 | airtonix | muwahaha |
| 23:56.08 | Fisker | btw Cairenn Shadowed has violated me |
| 23:56.17 | Fisker | i find that offensive |
| 23:56.27 | KarlKFI|work | did he use the wrong serial number? |
| 23:56.43 | Fisker | naw |
| 23:56.43 | Cairenn | prescribes antibiotics for Shadowed |
| 23:56.45 | KarlKFI|work | oh that's validated |
| 23:56.56 | Shadowed | the antibiotics are to ban Fisker |
| 23:56.59 | Shadowed | I believe |
| 23:57.03 | Shadowed | It says so right on the directions |
| 23:57.06 | KarlKFI|work | antibifiskers? |
| 23:57.07 | Fisker | Shadowed stole my idea :( |
| 23:57.09 | Shadowed | "Take with one hammer to one Fisker's face" |
| 23:57.28 | Shadowed | "Repeat until symptoms improve" |
| 23:57.29 | WobWork | Jerub: You should, it's pretty awesome |
| 23:57.30 | airtonix | bisker? |
| 23:57.54 | Jerub | WobWork: where do i get the bookwarez these days? you're a filthy dirty copyright pirrrate aren't you? |
| 23:58.02 | KarlKFI|work | antibifiskers, it's like a decloner |
| 23:58.03 | WobWork | <.< |
| 23:58.04 | WobWork | >.> |
| 23:58.16 | WobWork | yarr |
| 23:58.26 | WobWork | I'd say, buy the books, cause Neil is awesome |
| 23:58.37 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.47 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.23 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:59.32 | Lopeppeppy | Neil is awesome. |
| 23:59.46 | Fisker | i can feel your guilt Shadowed |
