| 00:00.31 | kd3 | whee; I've got a new account attached to my bnet profile. |
| 00:00.37 | kd3 | looks at the ptr |
| 00:00.45 | WobWork | there should be toon specific cross server friendslist |
| 00:01.02 | Fisker | i knew it kd3 |
| 00:01.04 | WobWork | because although I'd like to regroup with some people I meet in pugs |
| 00:01.14 | Fisker | they had to hide their precious beta |
| 00:01.34 | WobWork | having to say "Oh, I was that priest you pugged with on that other server a few weeks ago, but now I'm on a hunter on the opposite faction etc etc etc |
| 00:01.36 | WobWork | " |
| 00:01.42 | WobWork | would be ridiculously confusing |
| 00:02.25 | Fisker | give me a link to the US character copy kd3 |
| 00:02.37 | WobWork | =O |
| 00:02.39 | WobWork | http://consumerist.com/2010/05/delta-offers-380-plus-2-more-200-vouchers-for-lost-pooch.html |
| 00:02.40 | kd3 | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/charcopy/character-copy.html |
| 00:03.11 | WobWork | and http://consumerist.com/2010/05/delta-loses-entire-dog.html =P |
| 00:04.16 | myrkraverk | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/pettarget.aspx |
| 00:04.17 | myrkraverk | yay |
| 00:04.17 | *** join/#wowuidev Allara (~chatzilla@c-98-246-148-48.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 00:04.35 | Thunder_Child | i will be sorry when google vioce fixes the transcripts "Or yeah, I'll be out in with. If this is Paul beyond words. Yes, one now. If not, Press. 2. Anyway, it's Macy's. Yeah, all the elements. Yes, one now. If not, Press. 2. But anyway. We are sorry we did not get your response. Goodbye. " |
| 00:05.14 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: it sounds much more entertaining this way =) |
| 00:05.23 | Thunder_Child | i know |
| 00:05.58 | alestane | "At any time...in any place...our snipers can drop you. |
| 00:06.01 | alestane | "Go in peace." |
| 00:06.04 | alestane | So it goes. |
| 00:06.11 | Thunder_Child | it's best when it is some i know |
| 00:06.16 | Thunder_Child | so i can show them that |
| 00:06.50 | *** join/#wowuidev mascondante (kvirc@75-105-24-144.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 00:08.26 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 00:09.14 | kd3 | can someone post for me? (it's rebilling day, I can't log on to the forums) http://wowi.pastey.net/136358 |
| 00:09.22 | kd3 | this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702205318&sid=1 |
| 00:11.09 | Gnarfoz | !api autofilled |
| 00:11.09 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'autofilled'. |
| 00:12.55 | Gnarfoz | !api multicast |
| 00:12.55 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'multicast': SetMultiCastSpell, GetMultiCastBarOffset, GetMultiCastTotemSpells |
| 00:13.25 | Thunder_Child | kd3: what name do you use? |
| 00:13.33 | kd3 | 'Kaydeethree' |
| 00:13.45 | Thunder_Child | cool, i had it right |
| 00:13.50 | Fisker | kd3 just renew your sub |
| 00:13.52 | Thunder_Child | kd3: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702205318&postId=246998634433&sid=1#11 |
| 00:14.01 | kd3 | thanks |
| 00:14.04 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 00:14.43 | Torhal | foxlit: Well, I can cross-server ignore him too. |
| 00:15.06 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 00:15.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (~Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 00:16.06 | frontendloader | kd3: character copy not working for ya? |
| 00:16.19 | kd3 | char copy worked fine |
| 00:16.32 | kd3 | there's a bigger wine issue for me preventing me from getting on right now |
| 00:16.33 | frontendloader | doesn't seem to be working for me |
| 00:16.43 | frontendloader | I copied but it didn't decrement my copies |
| 00:16.51 | frontendloader | and nothing went in the char copy status |
| 00:16.51 | batbot | Shirik cannot destroy me. |
| 00:16.52 | kd3 | check character copy status |
| 00:16.54 | kd3 | hm |
| 00:16.57 | kd3 | then it's busted again |
| 00:17.03 | kd3 | I had a copy go through (I have 3 copies left) |
| 00:17.05 | Lopeppeppy | is not surprised. |
| 00:19.04 | Shirik | I must say |
| 00:19.04 | Lopeppeppy | The PTRs are always fraught with peril. |
| 00:19.10 | Shirik | halo reach is fun |
| 00:19.18 | kd3 | it's more dain bramaged than usual this time |
| 00:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: how is your SC2 2v2 doing? |
| 00:21.35 | Fisker | their system is batshit retarded right kd3 ? |
| 00:21.37 | Fisker | also renew your sub |
| 00:21.50 | kd3 | it's 'pending' according to payment history |
| 00:21.56 | Fisker | yeah |
| 00:21.59 | Fisker | just renew it |
| 00:22.17 | ScytheBlade1 | probably done to prevent forum spam with "hacked" dead accounts |
| 00:22.23 | Fisker | They need to make a new site for WoW |
| 00:22.31 | Fisker | and have it done about 3-4 years ago |
| 00:22.53 | Fisker | why would they care what part of your billing cycle you're one? |
| 00:22.59 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: I like peril! |
| 00:23.31 | Lopeppeppy | You must have your JooJanta sunglasses |
| 00:23.48 | Lunessa | ~Lopeppeppy++ |
| 00:24.02 | Lopeppeppy | Why thank you, Lunessa! |
| 00:25.19 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/spell=64843 is so op, i love it |
| 00:25.35 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (~sylvanaar@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 00:26.23 | Cairenn | Let me face the peril! |
| 00:26.32 | WobWork | http://www.bigfootnetworks.com/killer-2100/ |
| 00:27.00 | Fisker | i would rather not get myself kicked Cairenn |
| 00:27.09 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 00:27.22 | Fisker | i like how Warcraft 3 is part of their testimonial |
| 00:27.32 | Lopeppeppy | No no, too perilous! |
| 00:27.38 | Fisker | Because that haven't got like a 250ms delay over battle.net |
| 00:27.39 | Fisker | durr |
| 00:27.42 | Torhal | Somehow, peril always leads to spankings and oral sex. |
| 00:27.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. |
| 00:27.49 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 00:27.53 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, can I face it with you? |
| 00:27.58 | Shirik | Arrowmaster |
| 00:27.58 | Cairenn | Indeed! |
| 00:27.59 | Shirik | halp |
| 00:27.59 | Lopeppeppy | I mean, always better with a buddy system, right? |
| 00:28.02 | Shirik | you around? |
| 00:28.09 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: for safety! |
| 00:28.11 | Thunder_Child | you ladies are disturbing |
| 00:28.12 | Gnarfoz | http://www.bigfootnetworks.com/assets/Products/Killer2100/2100-offload.jpg < I lol'd |
| 00:28.15 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 :( |
| 00:28.19 | Shirik | not really playing |
| 00:28.24 | Fisker | And it seems like the only features i wanted was removed WobWork :( |
| 00:28.33 | WobWork | Gnarfoz: hehe yeah! I never knew the WNS was built that way! |
| 00:28.46 | WobWork | Fisker: was it to make your member bigger? |
| 00:28.55 | Fisker | naw |
| 00:29.02 | Fisker | But you could attach USB storage to it and shit |
| 00:29.07 | Fisker | then install a bittorrent client on it |
| 00:29.17 | Lopeppeppy | TC, always! *purr* |
| 00:30.09 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 00:30.14 | Torhal | Fisker: On your member? |
| 00:30.15 | Torhal | boggles. |
| 00:30.27 | Fisker | There's been an error not keeping myself from killing you due to those fucking EU PTR pages not working yet |
| 00:30.30 | WobWork | Torhal: porn torrenting has gone high tech |
| 00:30.31 | Fisker | yeah Torhal |
| 00:30.57 | Fisker | Blizzard is the cancer that's killing gaming |
| 00:31.24 | Torhal | I thought that was RuneScape. |
| 00:32.11 | WobWork | I thought it was cancer |
| 00:32.18 | Torhal | WobWork: Ssssh |
| 00:34.40 | ArrowmasterClass | Gnarfoz: rofl |
| 00:34.46 | Mikk | Who is Wa Comm, why does Facebook think I should be his friend, and does he sell good but cheap styluses? |
| 00:34.50 | Mikk | stylii? |
| 00:35.34 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:121.45.150.68&diff=361579759&oldid=361578972 |
| 00:36.16 | Mikk | lmao |
| 00:36.34 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 00:39.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://www.popphoto.com/reviews/cameras/2010/05/new-gear-sony-alpha-nex-3-and-nex-5-cameras?cmpid=enews051110 |
| 00:39.53 | Shirik | so what is that, somewhere in between a crop factor and full frame camera? |
| 00:40.08 | Thunder_Child | not quite sure |
| 00:40.44 | Thunder_Child | '60% bigger than micro four thirs isnt that helpful |
| 00:40.50 | Shirik | yeah |
| 00:40.58 | Shirik | anyway, I've never been that impressed with Sony |
| 00:41.02 | Shirik | I think they try to do too much |
| 00:41.08 | Shirik | they need to focus on a few areas |
| 00:41.17 | Shirik | they're like the walmart of electronics |
| 00:41.33 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 00:41.34 | Fisker | my rageface |
| 00:41.35 | Shirik | except that they jack prices way up |
| 00:41.47 | Mikk | yeah and only rarely is it worth it |
| 00:42.08 | Fisker | i kinda lol'd Shirik |
| 00:42.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: that is unfortunate |
| 00:42.10 | Mikk | half the time it's shit that breaks faster than any cheapo noname crap you can pick up anywhere |
| 00:42.27 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:42.28 | alestane | Was Torhal referring to something that anyone recognizes with the comment about peril? |
| 00:42.29 | Mikk | except "It's a Sony!" so it's high range priced |
| 00:42.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: SC2 |
| 00:42.49 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: You could play with me, but you are mean and don't want to |
| 00:42.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: because you're bad |
| 00:43.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: </rimshot> |
| 00:43.04 | Shirik | ow |
| 00:43.08 | Shirik | you haven't even seen me play in forever |
| 00:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | waits for the ":(" |
| 00:43.15 | Shirik | and last time I played with you I killed you if I recall! |
| 00:43.18 | Fisker | kd3 btw |
| 00:43.20 | Fisker | you're welcome |
| 00:43.25 | kd3 | hm? |
| 00:43.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey Shirik |
| 00:43.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Remember that time |
| 00:43.30 | Fisker | for fixing your forum issues |
| 00:43.36 | ScytheBlade1 | You sent 30 battlecruisers against 100 marines |
| 00:43.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And lost them all? |
| 00:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | rubs it in a bit more |
| 00:43.50 | alestane | Monty Python, apparently. |
| 00:44.19 | Fisker | are you ingame yet btw kd3 |
| 00:44.28 | Fisker | or still stuck on ldapping yo battle.net? |
| 00:44.30 | kd3 | no. not til I get the ldap thing fixed |
| 00:44.45 | Torhal | alestane: Bingo. |
| 00:44.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: still playing terran when you play, though? |
| 00:45.03 | Shirik | yup |
| 00:45.14 | Shirik | Typically MMM...S? |
| 00:45.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Where are you ranked? |
| 00:45.20 | Lopeppeppy | I almost killed you once. *sniff* |
| 00:45.30 | Fisker | Shirik stop wounding me |
| 00:45.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: you'll have plenty of opportunity in the future. |
| 00:45.42 | Shirik | I've been playing with my roommate who really doesn't play FPSes and we're like #5 silver. Cide and I are/were gold but we stopped playing |
| 00:45.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 00:45.51 | Lunessa | I want to Kill, Kill, KILL! |
| 00:46.47 | Lopeppeppy | KILL! |
| 00:46.47 | Shirik | ok so how do I do a content aware fill Thunder_Child? |
| 00:46.50 | Shirik | I thought I just hit "delete" |
| 00:47.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Amarande (amarande@68-191-37-155.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 00:47.25 | Thunder_Child | umm..no, Shirik, wait till after i finish this dungeon |
| 00:47.33 | Amarande | yay. finally starting NR on the DK. :) |
| 00:47.34 | Shirik | ok |
| 00:47.40 | Amarande | and starting to think these swords are WAY too fast |
| 00:47.54 | Amarande | after Icy Talons and Improved Icy Talons, one of them is at like ... 1.01 speed o.0 |
| 00:48.22 | Fisker | Shirik you just do delete yeah |
| 00:48.34 | Amarande | I'm also feeling like a nubcake for using my current gloves. :| |
| 00:48.34 | Fisker | you'll have a dropdown where you can select content-aware |
| 00:48.37 | Shirik | fu Fisker |
| 00:48.41 | Fisker | :( |
| 00:48.47 | Shirik | I do not have dropdown |
| 00:48.54 | Fisker | well i did |
| 00:48.59 | Amarande | http://www.wowhead.com/item=35571 |
| 00:49.00 | Fisker | maybe your pirated version of photoshop sucks? |
| 00:49.04 | Amarande | it WAS an upgrade over the outland quest green I had |
| 00:49.06 | Shirik | not pirated! |
| 00:49.11 | Amarande | but int mail on a DK feels wrong :| |
| 00:49.11 | Shirik | I downloaded the trial from adobe |
| 00:49.21 | Fisker | maybe not in the trial version? lol :P |
| 00:49.32 | Fisker | Though have you made a selection? |
| 00:50.33 | Shirik | yes |
| 00:50.40 | Shirik | I magic wand selected all the transparent area |
| 00:50.58 | Amarande | actually, come to think of it |
| 00:51.08 | Amarande | why *is* there so little in the way of decent DK items in the first few instances in Northrend? :| |
| 00:51.13 | Amarande | or even warrior items for that matter |
| 00:51.17 | Lopeppeppy | hate |
| 00:51.25 | Amarande | all the plate in Nexus and UK reg is spellpower |
| 00:51.30 | Fisker | man kd3 |
| 00:51.36 | Fisker | this level of incompetence is tiring |
| 00:51.38 | Amarande | and I think the only good 1H weapon in those is spellpower too |
| 00:51.47 | Fisker | "Sure we'll work around the clock to fix the issue" |
| 00:51.51 | kd3 | it's the ptr? you sound surprised |
| 00:51.55 | Lopeppeppy | spellpower plate was extremely scarce on the ground before. |
| 00:51.56 | Amarande | I *did* get the 56 STR 70 AP axe, but of course, I'm frost and don't use 2H :P |
| 00:52.07 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy: now it seems like so many places that's *all* you find :p |
| 00:52.09 | Fisker | Said Blizzard and all their coders went home so it only got fixed on US, and i sat here for like 5 hours for absolutely no reason |
| 00:52.10 | Fisker | awesome |
| 00:52.17 | Lopeppeppy | Makes me a happy paladin? |
| 00:52.21 | Amarande | besides, spellpower plate should be rare, since only one build of one class makes much use of it |
| 00:52.25 | Fisker | now i can't sleep again |
| 00:52.31 | Shirik | Fisker, if you were trying to give me real advice |
| 00:52.40 | Shirik | let us continue; I have it all as one layer right now |
| 00:52.43 | Shirik | is that right? |
| 00:52.46 | Lopeppeppy | random drop is random, Amarande. |
| 00:52.49 | Amarande | I guess it just makes me wonder where they expected DKs and warriors to get their first few sets of Northrend upgrades. |
| 00:52.51 | Shirik | do I have to flatten it? |
| 00:52.58 | Lopeppeppy | Crafting? |
| 00:52.58 | Fisker | i don't know :P |
| 00:53.01 | Shirik | fuuu |
| 00:53.08 | Fisker | installed it just loaded a normal image |
| 00:53.11 | Fisker | and did the same as you |
| 00:53.24 | Jerub | Amarande: as a warrior who's doing NR now? I'm finding it frustrating that i'm still mostly in classic blues. |
| 00:53.33 | Fisker | I had two dropdown boxes when doing that, one was for content-aware fill and the other was for something else, not sure what it was |
| 00:53.37 | Jerub | Amarande: otoh, classic blues still put me at the top of the dps meter. |
| 00:53.45 | Amarande | Jerub: so basically, there really ARE that few upgrades :) |
| 00:53.49 | WobWork | Amarande: crafted gear =P |
| 00:53.50 | Amarande | *sigh* |
| 00:53.57 | WobWork | spiked cobalt stuff |
| 00:54.01 | Jerub | yeah, crafted gear is one place to get good stuff |
| 00:54.27 | WobWork | I got the cobalt set when I hit 70 as a DK |
| 00:54.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Jamash (~chatzilla@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:54.38 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: select -> shift+f5 -> dropdown content aware |
| 00:54.47 | Amarande | It's making me wish I leveled the hunter first now, since he has BS |
| 00:54.57 | Amarande | ah well, at least this gear is *good enough* |
| 00:54.59 | Jerub | Amarande: as soon as you get an upgrade to something with gems in it, you skyrocket tho |
| 00:55.07 | Amarande | the lack of progression feels a tad weaksauce, though |
| 00:55.11 | Jerub | Amarande: hell, even spell shit with gems is better than classic blues |
| 00:55.24 | Jerub | i'm annoyed with how many dungeons = 1 level. |
| 00:55.25 | Shirik | what is shift+f5? |
| 00:55.27 | Jerub | it's like 8-10 |
| 00:55.28 | Shirik | I mean it worked but yeah |
| 00:55.29 | Amarande | Jerub: yeah, I got a 3-red-socket plate chestpiece in ... Slave Pens, I think, and that made me go through Outland AWESOMELY |
| 00:55.31 | Jerub | (unrested) |
| 00:55.33 | Fisker | damn kd3 i should have a damn medal for fixing your damn forum |
| 00:55.34 | Amarande | soloing even most elites up through Nagrand or so |
| 00:55.39 | Thunder_Child | shift+f5 is fill |
| 00:55.51 | Amarande | btw: straight AP, or strength gems? :) |
| 00:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/41976/question-title-that-doesnt-describe-the-problem |
| 00:56.00 | Jerub | Amarande: loser. everyone uses heirlooms |
| 00:56.20 | Jerub | these are in underbog: http://www.wowhead.com/item=24456 |
| 00:56.26 | Jerub | and are an awesome pair of panties for a warrior |
| 00:56.36 | Jerub | but, current armory: http://quickarmory.com/?n=pham&r=Dath%27Remar |
| 00:56.38 | Jerub | :( |
| 00:56.39 | Jerub | :'( |
| 00:56.51 | Fisker | lol kd3 |
| 00:56.55 | Fisker | http://s859.photobucket.com/albums/ab152/FrostWolfVillagePeeps/PTR%20SS/?action=view¤t=WoWScrnShot_051110_193831.jpg |
| 00:57.01 | Fisker | "That could be from last PTR" |
| 00:57.15 | Fisker | Yeah it was from the last PTR with the 3.3.5 interface |
| 00:57.17 | Fisker | :rolleyes: |
| 00:57.23 | kd3 | lol |
| 00:57.40 | Fisker | looks ugly btw |
| 00:58.16 | Thunder_Child | anything else Shirik, i finnaly finished |
| 00:59.06 | Fisker | btw kd3 you got it all wrong |
| 00:59.18 | Fisker | it's not #include <wine.h> but #include <whine.> |
| 00:59.18 | Fisker | duh |
| 00:59.53 | Thunder_Child | btw Shirik, what fisker said was correct, if you hit delete it pops up |
| 01:00.04 | Thunder_Child | though i used the lasso tool, dunno what you used |
| 01:01.27 | Fisker | i used a little bit of everything, never recalled a time it didn't work |
| 01:07.45 | frontendloader | hrm |
| 01:07.50 | frontendloader | character copy still not workin :/ |
| 01:08.36 | kd3 | it was for a few minutes; then the server hamsters died again |
| 01:08.43 | Amarande | yay, new steel |
| 01:08.51 | Amarande | bah, means time to either wait for the zepp again or for HS to come off CD |
| 01:09.07 | Amarande | the one problem with being a DK :S |
| 01:09.50 | Amarande | hmm |
| 01:10.01 | Amarande | should fallen crusader always be on the MH or on the faster of the two? |
| 01:10.12 | Amarande | (using fallen crusader + razorice as frost) |
| 01:10.35 | WobWork | you want the slower MH don't you? |
| 01:10.55 | WobWork | although... I can't recall if the DK DW talents doublestrike the special attacks |
| 01:11.12 | alestane | That's what Threat of Thassarian is for. |
| 01:11.15 | Amarande | Wob: I think that's exactly what ToT does. |
| 01:11.22 | Amarande | I'm wondering whether the MH or OH should have Fallen Crusader. |
| 01:11.27 | WobWork | try it |
| 01:11.30 | Amarande | MH is 2.60 speed, OH 1.70 |
| 01:11.38 | WobWork | if uptime is not consistant enough, switch it to MH |
| 01:12.54 | Fisker | what is this? |
| 01:13.03 | WobWork | is this my cow? |
| 01:13.45 | Amarande | I guess it goes on the 1.70 |
| 01:13.46 | Amarande | since, well ... |
| 01:13.53 | Amarande | 1.70 with Frost hits like every second or so |
| 01:14.26 | Amarande | for one, it drops to 1.30 with just IIT talented, before IT even activates |
| 01:15.50 | Amarande | yay, welcome back to the queue for UK |
| 01:16.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Bibi (~Bibi@unaffiliated/bibi) |
| 01:19.04 | WobWork | isn't fallen crusader a strength buff? |
| 01:19.20 | WobWork | oh god, it's been so long since I dps'd on a DK =P |
| 01:20.05 | Fisker | just gonna own you a bit again kd3 |
| 01:20.08 | Jerub | tempted to make a dk and play it properly |
| 01:20.25 | Fisker | He probably wrote "SC2 live" for a good reason |
| 01:20.26 | WobWork | Jerub: do it |
| 01:20.27 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 01:20.42 | WobWork | bring the average skill for DKs up =) |
| 01:21.01 | Jerub | WobWork: i need another toon on the go so i hvae more rested running around :/ |
| 01:21.30 | Shirik | omg |
| 01:21.32 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:21.37 | Shirik | That killed my computer |
| 01:21.46 | Shirik | 30 minutes later it says "Cannot fill, not enough RAM" |
| 01:21.55 | Fisker | lol |
| 01:21.58 | Cide| | what did? |
| 01:22.00 | Fisker | what kinda shitty computer you have? |
| 01:22.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: you want fallen crusader mh, and razorice oh, a thirty second jaunt to EJ would have told you that. |
| 01:22.14 | Shirik | Cide|: Content aware fill on a panoram |
| 01:22.15 | Shirik | a |
| 01:22.34 | Cide| | ah |
| 01:22.50 | Shirik | I need to get a desktop eventually |
| 01:22.56 | Shirik | I mean my laptop is powerful, but still |
| 01:23.39 | Amarande | Night: bah, should have looked at EJ, I figured it would work the other way :S |
| 01:23.47 | Amarande | after all, let's see ... with ToT, abilities hit with both |
| 01:24.03 | Amarande | therefore, I thought it would come down to white speed, and putting FC where you get more white hits seemed logical |
| 01:24.25 | WobWork | aren't procs normalised? |
| 01:24.46 | Amarande | procs are normalized before haste |
| 01:24.59 | NightHawkTheSane | hence, you want your slower weapon to have crusader. |
| 01:25.04 | Amarande | Frost gets ridiculous amounts of haste, though, to the point that you're looking at 1.01-1.08 speed on a fast offhand after IIT and IT are taken into account |
| 01:25.12 | Amarande | yeah, that now seems like a better idea |
| 01:25.20 | Amarande | especially since razorice's proc is 100% far as I can tell |
| 01:25.35 | Fisker | content-aware sucks pretty much though Shirik |
| 01:25.44 | Amarande | bah, it can wait till HS is off cooldown again |
| 01:25.48 | Fisker | gotta be a pretty specific panorama to work properly |
| 01:26.03 | WobWork | well Razorice is 2% weapon damage |
| 01:26.17 | Shirik | Fisker, need to try it! |
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| 01:26.35 | Kraps | (random) i sometimes wish me wheelchair had autorun |
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| 01:27.02 | NightHawkTheSane | you could probably wire that up |
| 01:27.13 | Fisker | yeah Shirik |
| 01:27.14 | NightHawkTheSane | but, given how often i crash into things in game, i don't imagine that would be a wise choice |
| 01:27.25 | Fisker | but i had some hilly panoramas |
| 01:27.32 | Fisker | all of them ended up having hills in the sky and shit |
| 01:27.43 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: hmm |
| 01:27.49 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:27.53 | Shirik | sounds like finland |
| 01:28.00 | Shirik | random mario hills in the sky |
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| 01:28.36 | Kraps | "Blizzard asked us to remove all the content from the Cataclysm Alpha on the site. I don't have any reason or project to be an internet superhero because none of the underwear I have look nice over my pants and I'm in the process of removing all the content from the site." ohhhhhh |
| 01:29.00 | kd3 | ...ahahahaha |
| 01:29.02 | kd3 | ahahahahaha |
| 01:29.32 | Shirik | btw |
| 01:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: one week! |
| 01:29.51 | Shirik | I'm trying to do a content aware fill on a 26451x4156 picture |
| 01:30.01 | Shirik | that's 350MB CR2 |
| 01:30.03 | Cide| | sounds like you should resize it |
| 01:30.11 | ScytheBlade1 | maybe you should shrink it |
| 01:30.16 | ScytheBlade1 | and then content-aware scale up |
| 01:30.17 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 01:30.31 | Cide| | clearly I meant that he should enlarge it |
| 01:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | I like my idea better |
| 01:31.40 | Cide| | I have a distinct lack of sc2 buddies |
| 01:31.45 | Cide| | any takers? |
| 01:31.45 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: unless you are doing it on the whole picture it doenst take into account the entire image |
| 01:31.49 | Fisker | how do i push button to receive sleep? |
| 01:31.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide|: Sbo.sbo |
| 01:31.53 | Shirik | just the borders |
| 01:31.56 | Cide| | I meant to play with now! |
| 01:31.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 01:31.59 | Shirik | typical pano problem |
| 01:32.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Well I have an epic migraine |
| 01:32.03 | ScytheBlade1 | So :/ |
| 01:32.05 | Cide| | ouch |
| 01:32.10 | Cide| | sorry to hear that |
| 01:32.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Left work early even |
| 01:32.13 | ScytheBlade1 | men |
| 01:32.16 | ScytheBlade1 | *meh |
| 01:32.20 | ScytheBlade1 | happens at least once a week :p |
| 01:32.31 | Amarande | hmm, I wonder if it would get me a lot of <3 if I developed a game and didn't ever use NDAs |
| 01:32.35 | Amarande | or if that would just make me a nubcake. |
| 01:32.35 | Cide| | every friday eh? |
| 01:32.44 | Cide| | never had one in my life so I can't relate |
| 01:32.50 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: why was the doc file removed from the topic? |
| 01:33.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: masses of people I didn't know in the channel, and the email addresses in the doc |
| 01:33.44 | Thunder_Child | i'll just link that yto Cide| then |
| 01:33.44 | ScytheBlade1 | feel free to link it around though |
| 01:33.47 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 01:34.11 | Cide| | yeah I'm in there |
| 01:34.12 | Jerub | i like this one : |
| 01:34.13 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.15 | Kraps | http://i41.tinypic.com/34eysxx.jpg |
| 01:34.27 | Thunder_Child | Cide|: well there are your firends |
| 01:34.32 | Thunder_Child | friends* |
| 01:34.33 | Cide| | ha |
| 01:34.33 | Amarande | based on what I've seen of the industry, I get the feeling that not using NDAs might make me a nubcake, though. :| |
| 01:34.39 | Cide| | I'm the first with "EU&NA" |
| 01:34.42 | Cide| | eat that, suckahs |
| 01:34.55 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, missed an opportunity to put Fiery Weapon on it :D |
| 01:34.57 | Thunder_Child | that just makes you a greater whore than the rest of us |
| 01:35.29 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, nobody would really notice. many, many games never bother with NDAs |
| 01:35.47 | Cide| | oh I guess helios has two also |
| 01:36.04 | Kraps | anyone here play aion? |
| 01:36.15 | Thunder_Child | Iriel did/does |
| 01:37.06 | A-KO | mmo-champ got pwned |
| 01:37.25 | Fisker | Blizzard got selfpwnd |
| 01:38.00 | Amarande | yeah, NDA makes for bad PR |
| 01:38.06 | Kraps | they waited a week? |
| 01:38.08 | Amarande | unless there's something that people are going to hate that's in cata |
| 01:38.28 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, of course they waited a week, it's good PR :) |
| 01:38.32 | Kraps | Amarande: cata will kill wow anyway |
| 01:38.32 | Amarande | unless Blizzard lets the Legal Department be the high authority :P |
| 01:38.46 | Fisker | how is that good pr ZorbaTHut ? |
| 01:38.50 | Amarande | first rule: never let Legal be the high authority in a creative company, that's a good way to choke people :) |
| 01:39.00 | A-KO | can't say I agree with Blizzard's action against MMO-Champion |
| 01:39.08 | ZorbaTHut | fisker, everyone sees a bunch of stuff, everyone get excited. then you cut them off before they can get bored of it. |
| 01:39.15 | ZorbaTHut | rule #1 of PR: always leave them wanting more |
| 01:39.15 | WobWork | too late =( |
| 01:39.24 | Fisker | haha |
| 01:39.28 | Fisker | This is WoW we're talking about |
| 01:39.42 | A-KO | Honestly, the thing about mmo-champ is that if it isn't them, it'd be someone else. Which means it would hurt their hit count, etc. The alpha stuff *will* get leaked, and it will continue to get leaked. |
| 01:39.47 | A-KO | and be all over the internet |
| 01:40.07 | kd3 | so apparently macros are causing lag on the ptr, at least for one person |
| 01:40.09 | A-KO | that's not very fair to a major fan site |
| 01:40.14 | Fisker | Yeah i'd consider this an increase in private server usage |
| 01:40.14 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702265442&sid=1 |
| 01:40.47 | A-KO | Instead of going after the fan site, they should figure out how to go after the people that leaked the client out |
| 01:40.57 | A-KO | and figure out some way to tie the downloader to authentication |
| 01:41.06 | Fisker | + we'll likely see various sites (who don't have anything to lose, and won't bow down) take their spot, just a shame these various sites also teach people the value of cheating, scamming and exploiting |
| 01:41.09 | Amarande | meh. like I said, never let the Legal Department rule your company, especially if you're a creative and/or entertainment business |
| 01:41.11 | kd3 | they should've done that after the wrath leak, but noooo~ |
| 01:41.23 | Amarande | Legal Department = a bunch of boring suits who don't really care about creativity or fun, generally :) |
| 01:41.45 | Fisker | They should've said right from the start to take shit down |
| 01:41.45 | A-KO | Fisker: Precisely. The reality is that those fan sites may also use cataclysm leak information to attract people to nefarious ads, javascript, and who knows what else. |
| 01:41.52 | Fisker | or even better they should've done like they did with SC2 |
| 01:41.55 | A-KO | With MMO-Champion being left in the dust, their customers with egg on their face. |
| 01:41.57 | Amarande | although there are every now and then lawyers who know how to have fun. :) |
| 01:42.00 | Fisker | no Friends and Family portion of testing under NDA |
| 01:42.07 | Fisker | straight from Alpha into public beta |
| 01:42.17 | Fisker | Worked for SC2 |
| 01:42.21 | A-KO | SC2 had an NDA |
| 01:42.31 | A-KO | for a smal portion of the time I was in beta (which was way before a lot of people) |
| 01:42.38 | Fisker | naw |
| 01:42.43 | A-KO | yeah, it did :P |
| 01:42.48 | ZorbaTHut | a-ko, you're assuming their goal is to stop the leaks |
| 01:42.48 | Fisker | I was in the beta at day one |
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| 01:42.51 | ZorbaTHut | I'm not at all convinced that it is |
| 01:43.01 | ZorbaTHut | the goal is to manage the leaks to an appropriate and intended level |
| 01:43.04 | A-KO | Fisker: I do specifically remember a post about "the nda has been lifted" |
| 01:43.12 | Fisker | And all their betas have generic "You're under a NDA"-disclaimer |
| 01:43.17 | Fisker | yes A-KO |
| 01:43.28 | A-KO | ZorbaTHut: I just think it's unfair to some of the bigger sites that dedicate a lot of their time to lose out ot the sites that just don't give a shit |
| 01:43.31 | Fisker | All betas have the NDA's, and always the NDA is lifted when it begins |
| 01:43.47 | Fisker | it's likely more of a "Oh shit, we launched prematurely, so lets keep the NDA in effect"-thing |
| 01:44.12 | Fisker | But sofar they've always lifted the NDA as soon as they've begun posting on the forums |
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| 01:44.33 | ZorbaTHut | a-ko, I don't think Blizzard really cares about who it's fair for :P |
| 01:44.49 | A-KO | that's unfortunate, to be honest. |
| 01:45.08 | Fisker | You can't contain it |
| 01:45.10 | ZorbaTHut | I imagine it's definitely unfortunate for the "larger sites". |
| 01:45.18 | ZorbaTHut | it's pretty fortunate for everyone else, though. |
| 01:45.22 | Fisker | So either you go about it the good way, or you go about it the bad way |
| 01:45.26 | Kraps | "This is why Blizzard asked Boub to take everything down. That poor SS of the day guy must have been crushed when he found out Boub posted enough screenshots to last a year." |
| 01:45.40 | Fisker | lol Kraps |
| 01:46.00 | Fisker | Basically Blizzard didn't achieve containment today |
| 01:46.20 | kd3 | it's just all going to wotlkwiki and wow.com now |
| 01:46.24 | ZorbaTHut | also I'm curious if Blizzard did actually wait a week to contact them or not. I strongly suspect they did, though. |
| 01:46.25 | Fisker | The only thing they did achieve was that players will now turn to alternate sources of information, including hack and emu sites |
| 01:47.07 | Gnarfoz | sucks to be owned by a company that has a business relationship with Blizzard, I guess |
| 01:47.10 | Fisker | I'm not sure, apparently it was kind of a bigger campaign to remind all sites that they shouldn't be posting it |
| 01:47.18 | kd3 | lol, speaking of wow.com, on their post about bibi pulling nda-covered stuff: 'Since WoW.com has not been hosting any alpha content, this will not affect our site.' |
| 01:47.33 | Fisker | :3? |
| 01:47.39 | Fisker | but they always steal stuff from Bibi |
| 01:47.58 | Kraps | kd3: they're skilled at Misdirection it seems |
| 01:48.31 | Gnarfoz | they're huntards? that fits |
| 01:49.40 | Fisker | Wryxian is a huge twat though |
| 01:49.57 | Fisker | Posting that the PTR's are live, though there's no point in posting it since noone can actually access the PTR |
| 01:49.58 | Fisker | lol |
| 01:50.14 | Fisker | in b4 second rate citizens |
| 01:50.23 | Gnarfoz | blizz doesn't care about eu etc etc |
| 01:50.32 | Kraps | huh The amount of health has been increased on demolishers in the Strand of the Ancients battleground. |
| 01:50.36 | Fisker | they never do |
| 01:50.50 | Fisker | If they cared about EU they would've implemented the new Blessing of Might in WotLK |
| 01:51.00 | Gnarfoz | hurrr |
| 01:51.13 | Fisker | I already suggested back then that blessings were an unnessecary pain in the back |
| 01:51.28 | Fisker | and that exactly combining might and wisdom would solve most of those issues |
| 01:51.30 | Kraps | neck, Fisker |
| 01:51.38 | Fisker | along with an one-hour duration of course |
| 01:53.06 | Fisker | maybe i should send Blizzard my fee |
| 01:56.17 | Fisker | so it's 4am now |
| 01:56.58 | Arrowmaster | so im looking at the strangest mess of html ive ever seen |
| 01:57.21 | Fisker | is it your own? |
| 01:57.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 01:58.25 | Stanzilla | generated by frontpage 4.0? |
| 01:58.37 | Arrowmaster | site for the place my mom works, http://www.mariasteincenter.org/pages/mschistory2.html i was asked to see if i could figure out why theres an image in the middle of the text halfway down the page |
| 02:00.26 | Gnarfoz | <tr height="2879"> |
| 02:00.26 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.40 | Arrowmaster | running it through validator.w3c.org is interesting http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mariasteincenter.org%2Fpages%2Fmschistory2.html |
| 02:00.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah i figure its something to do with the fucked up usage of tables |
| 02:01.15 | Kraps | 54 errors |
| 02:02.18 | kd3 | wait, finally? built-in scrolling chat frames using the mouse wheel |
| 02:02.27 | kd3 | how many years has it been? |
| 02:02.55 | NightHawkTheSane | crazy, huh |
| 02:04.22 | Amarande | kd3: wait, that was something that came from prat and not the default chat frame? |
| 02:04.28 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:04.33 | kd3 | 's been using ct_core to do that |
| 02:05.15 | Gnarfoz | lol ct_ |
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| 02:13.37 | Cide| | Gnarfoz: excuse me? |
| 02:13.52 | Gnarfoz | Cide|: no! |
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| 02:35.05 | myrkraverk | Am I able to create actionbars/buttons that work like the default ones, with drag&drop ? |
| 02:35.21 | myrkraverk | I'll add that the only action bar addon I've ever used is macaroon |
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| 02:57.22 | Amarande | wtf |
| 02:57.29 | Amarande | did they make reg keristrasza harder or something? |
| 02:57.38 | Amarande | I hardly ever remember her being a wipefest back when LK was newer |
| 02:59.05 | Amarande | or is this one of those "oh sry your healer doesn't have enough SP? doesn't matter the rest of ya, NO COMPLETE FOR YOU" battles |
| 03:01.00 | tardmrr | when she enrages, she hits HARD |
| 03:01.09 | tardmrr | if your tank doesn't hit a CD, the healer needs to be on the ball |
| 03:02.06 | Shirik | KRAPS |
| 03:02.08 | Shirik | YES |
| 03:02.25 | Shirik | you're in there so I have a witness |
| 03:02.37 | Shirik | (22:59:35) (Prodego) the great thing is that I actually trust Shirik not to screw up |
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| 03:08.47 | kd3 | lol |
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| 03:09.54 | Cide| | who is prodego and why is he so gullible? |
| 03:10.22 | Shirik | amusingly he's also the guy that nominated me at RFA |
| 03:10.53 | Shirik | This is the whole conversation: http://pastey.net/136359 |
| 03:11.34 | Cide| | Shirikitty |
| 03:11.38 | Cide| | that is so catching on from now on |
| 03:12.18 | kd3 | wait, wait, what's ottava doing in chat? didn't he get arbcom-banned? |
| 03:12.28 | kd3 | tries to do the name lookup thing in his head |
| 03:14.18 | Shirik | yes kd3 |
| 03:14.21 | Shirik | now he hangs out in the IRC channel |
| 03:14.28 | Shirik | we all want him unbanned because he keeps talking |
| 03:14.29 | Shirik | lol |
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| 03:31.37 | Amarande | hmm, this is weird |
| 03:31.43 | Amarande | are herb nodes unusually rare in northrend or something? |
| 03:31.50 | Amarande | I haven't seen a single one since I arrived in HF |
| 03:35.25 | kd3 | the farmers are out? |
| 03:35.29 | WobWork | they're a bit scattered |
| 03:35.44 | WobWork | HF doesn't have the same density as ZD for example |
| 03:36.53 | WobWork | PS SHIRIKITTY! |
| 03:37.35 | Shirik | :P |
| 03:39.08 | Xinhuan | you can use Routes + Gathermate ;p |
| 03:39.21 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 03:39.49 | Kraps | shirik |
| 03:39.57 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 03:40.01 | Kraps | grats? |
| 03:40.14 | Shirik | thanks? |
| 03:40.19 | Shirik | didn't you already say this a while ago? |
| 03:40.29 | Jerub | anyone know why mmoui minion doesn't seem to install quartz properly? |
| 03:40.31 | Kraps | no? |
| 03:40.41 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:40.42 | Jerub | probably should go and actually diagnose what's going wrong at some point |
| 03:40.42 | Shirik | then thanks |
| 03:41.44 | Shirik | omg |
| 03:41.46 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Blueflashlight07&diff=prev&oldid=361608520 |
| 03:41.55 | Torhal | Jerub: The WoWI version is insanely outdated. |
| 03:42.35 | Jerub | Torhal: ah, that would be a barrier to proper function |
| 03:42.39 | Torhal | Jerub: Curse version is dated Sat, Apr 10 2010 |
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| 03:49.08 | kd3 | lmao |
| 03:55.37 | Arrowmaster | i really need to organize better, ive got like 6 stacks of 360 games around the room |
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| 03:56.25 | Arrowmaster | 2 stacks are CE editions though |
| 03:57.48 | Amarande | Ice elementals, how do I hate thee ... let me count the ways ... |
| 03:58.04 | Amarande | Immune to Icy Touch ... Immune to Frost Strike ... Immune to Rune of Razorice bonus damage ... Immune to Howling Blast ... |
| 03:58.44 | kd3 | you sound like a frost mage |
| 03:58.49 | Amarande | kd3: frost DK, actually |
| 03:59.01 | kd3 | played a frost mage |
| 03:59.08 | Jerub | swapped to arcane with LFD |
| 04:00.02 | Amarande | arcane? the oom spec? :) |
| 04:00.19 | kd3 | only if you spam AB |
| 04:00.49 | Amarande | considers going fire rather than frost when I finally get around to leveling the mage |
| 04:01.44 | Amarande | "You receive loot: [Crystallized Water]" |
| 04:01.54 | Amarande | I've always wondered, exactly what the difference between that and, say, *ice* is. :) |
| 04:02.56 | Thunder_Child | 14 letters |
| 04:03.07 | Amarande | "You receive loot: [Spotted Hippogryph Down]" <-- Sounds like the name of a movie Alliance would make about a military expedition to Northrend gone south. :) |
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| 04:17.06 | Dagmar | Amarande: Slightly crunchier? ;) |
| 04:20.30 | Arrowmaster | "Intrigued by the presence of an SR-71 Blackbird reconnaissance aircraft in the clip? According to this report there'll be another "C-130" sequence in Black Ops, with a level tasking the player with manning a camera in the recon bird while issuing orders to troops on the ground." i think somebody forgot to tell Treyarch how fast an SR-71 flies |
| 04:21.06 | Lunessa | dolby - You're the man. new css is slick. |
| 04:21.13 | Amarande | gah, runed stone giants are a pain in the ass |
| 04:21.19 | Amarande | they'd be easy, if it wasn't for the stupid stacking DoT |
| 04:21.48 | Arrowmaster | manning a camera on an SR-71 is way fucking stupider than the damn Harriers in MW2 flying at the same speed as the choppers |
| 04:22.15 | Dagmar | Hey they haven't yet declassified what speed those things fly at |
| 04:22.26 | Dagmar | For all we know they might be capable of making right angle turns and flying at four knots. |
| 04:22.42 | Arrowmaster | they would never fly one slowly over hostile airspace though |
| 04:23.03 | Dagmar | That depends on whether or not they're trying to sneak up on those sexy midwestern farmers. |
| 04:23.44 | Arrowmaster | its defense was flying so fast it would enter russian airspace and then leave the other side of russian airspace before an anti air missile could reach it |
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| 04:24.16 | Dagmar | ...that and having the radar profile of a seagull. |
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| 04:24.42 | Dagmar | I'm going to have a hard time remembering why I'm not allowed to dispose of lazy coworkers in the garbage crusher when shift change comes tonight. |
| 04:25.33 | Dagmar | I just had to trace down 14 more network cables whose labels were poorly applied and mostly consisted of useless gibberish. |
| 04:25.52 | Arrowmaster | its been said that if they were to build a brand new SR-71 with the exact same design, not changing anything at all, just because of the higher quality in the manufacturing of the parts it would be able to withstand the heat and stress to become the fastest airplane ever created |
| 04:26.03 | Dagmar | The saving grace: The other three machines that have yet to be traced are probably equally populated with illiterate bullshit and they'll get a taste of their own medicine |
| 04:26.24 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I thought it was already the fastest thing going |
| 04:26.39 | Amarande | okay, that's the second time I've died of dots after killing one of those stone giants |
| 04:26.47 | Dagmar | Amarande: Get a pet |
| 04:26.52 | Amarande | is this some sort of dirty trick they added solely for the purpose of making DKs buckle down and get a group? :) |
| 04:26.54 | Arrowmaster | probably the fastest that wasnt created just to try and break the record |
| 04:27.13 | Arrowmaster | were talking like over mach 6 here probably |
| 04:27.21 | Dagmar | Amarande: I didn't even know they cast a dot, and I've gone through there on three different toons now |
| 04:27.21 | Arrowmaster | if a new one was built |
| 04:27.28 | Amarande | Dagmar: it might be a proc |
| 04:27.39 | Amarande | since there was always a dot afterwards, but it was different amounts, always multiples of 300 |
| 04:27.55 | Dagmar | Maybe a spell reflect? |
| 04:28.11 | Dagmar | I'm going to have to put something in PowerAuras on my 'lock now that I have to actually deal with that |
| 04:28.19 | Arrowmaster | the thing is the only aircraft ever built that actually runs most efficiently on full afterburners |
| 04:28.22 | Dagmar | I've damn near killed myself a few times now |
| 04:28.47 | Dagmar | Hunters and DKs don't really have to worry about spell reflect |
| 04:29.01 | Dagmar | I tend to be three dots in before I even notice on my 'lock |
| 04:30.06 | Dagmar | Good thing I've stacked stamina there |
| 04:30.08 | Amarande | Dagmar: hmm, if it was a spell reflect, then I'm using something seriously odd |
| 04:30.16 | Amarande | because I'm quite sure I don't have anything that stacks other than of course frost vulnerability |
| 04:30.24 | Amarande | and whatever this is, this stacks |
| 04:30.32 | Dagmar | Mebbe just let the ghoul tank it then |
| 04:30.54 | WobWork | no that stone giant does a pretty bad dot |
| 04:31.17 | WobWork | you have to kite those |
| 04:31.21 | Amarande | Wob: lemme guess, put there to help make it difficult for DKs trying to solo so they'd suck it up and go LFG like every other melee? |
| 04:31.28 | WobWork | not at all |
| 04:31.30 | WobWork | I solo'd them |
| 04:31.38 | WobWork | You just keep running =) |
| 04:31.42 | Amarande | there's a fair number of quests that are behind that first quest where you have to kill them, too |
| 04:31.54 | Amarande | that won't be fun come cata when hardly anyone exists in HF to group with |
| 04:32.11 | WobWork | no, as I said, you can kill them, just don't stand toe to toe |
| 04:32.23 | Amarande | Wob: ... as a DK? :) |
| 04:32.25 | WobWork | yes |
| 04:32.28 | WobWork | as a DK |
| 04:32.31 | Amarande | unless you respec unholy just for that one quest ... heh |
| 04:32.51 | Dagmar | Mine just stayed unholy |
| 04:33.09 | Dagmar | ...mainly because it let me keep a running disease going |
| 04:33.12 | WobWork | pft, I solo'd that stupid boss in Icecrown in the pit as frost |
| 04:33.23 | WobWork | by kiting him around the pit |
| 04:33.28 | WobWork | and using IT |
| 04:33.34 | WobWork | round and round til he died =P |
| 04:33.50 | WobWork | DKs can kite -very- effectively |
| 04:33.54 | Dagmar | Drop some diseases on the first guy, spread 'em, go grab some more guys, spread it to them, whack everyone a few times, go find more guys, spread again, pop pop pop |
| 04:33.54 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 04:33.56 | WobWork | chains of ice |
| 04:34.03 | WobWork | etc |
| 04:34.09 | WobWork | all your diseases are dots |
| 04:34.19 | Dagmar | Well over 3/4 of my damage while soloing was coming from the dots |
| 04:34.21 | WobWork | bloodboil is instant |
| 04:35.16 | Amarande | also: am I just thinking it or did they totally change the way PvP flagging works in Northrend compared to the whole rest of the game |
| 04:35.37 | Dagmar | That one's much nicer when you're pillaging BRD now that they've chnaged it to hit everyone, diseased or not |
| 04:35.37 | Amarande | In Old World and Outland, you don't flag unless you actually attack a PvP-marked mob or player |
| 04:35.57 | Amarande | Now it seems that you flag the moment you aggro an opposite faction guard, even if he never gets close enough to lay a hand on you |
| 04:36.00 | Amarande | Why'd they change that? |
| 04:36.12 | Dagmar | Probably in preparation for Cata |
| 04:36.25 | Amarande | Dagmar: it's been that way since WotLK came out, I think |
| 04:36.39 | Dagmar | ...since otherwise people are going to fly right into the middle of Org/Stormwind with impunity |
| 04:36.45 | Amarande | or are they just trying to get us used to being PvP flagged all the time |
| 04:36.53 | Amarande | because after all, you'd apparently better get used to it :| |
| 04:37.08 | Amarande | since otherwise you'll be making money SLOWLY if you don't want to keep going to Tol Barad all the time and getting flagged from it ... |
| 04:37.23 | Amarande | ... since they're making the new WG equivalent the new daily hub too |
| 04:37.47 | Amarande | Wonder what's next, beginning to phase out the whole notion of "PvE servers"? |
| 04:38.03 | Amarande | It does seem like they want to make WoW more and more and more of a PvP game with every major turn |
| 04:38.19 | Dagmar | We'll find out when customers start dropping |
| 04:38.29 | Amarande | Wonder if it might be related to the reason Guild Wars is still played |
| 04:38.41 | Dagmar | It only takes a small number of assholes to chase of a whole crapload of casuals who won't tolerate bein griefed |
| 04:38.56 | Amarande | Someday, they're going to have to stop providing content, either because they can't come up with any new that's good enough |
| 04:38.57 | Dagmar | Guild Wars is still played because asians play in cafes |
| 04:39.12 | Dagmar | They can team up in person, without the need for vent, no problem |
| 04:39.21 | Amarande | or because they'll reach a point where they can't give any more character progression without characters starting to be able to roundhouse kick Chuck Norris |
| 04:39.36 | Dagmar | 'mericans might play in pairs, or with vent, but they're still mostly one person sitting in their room playing |
| 04:39.48 | Amarande | and then they'll have to find a way to keep subscribers, and the only real way to do it is to set players against each other more often so they'll create their own challenge? |
| 04:40.10 | Amarande | (not to mention it deals with the late-expansion slump?) |
| 04:40.37 | Amarande | begins to wonder if things are not the financial paradise everyone thinks Blizzard must be with their subscriber base. :) |
| 04:41.52 | Amarande | Dagmar: do you think WoW will someday even be more of a PvP than a PvE game, and perhaps that that will eventually be a necessity to keep it going? |
| 04:41.58 | Jamash | damn it, what happened to Hammer of Grammar? |
| 04:43.11 | Amarande | (also, will the end of WoW, when it happens, have the massive negative reverberating effect throughout the game industry that I suspect it will?) |
| 04:43.22 | Jamash | anyway, "My *pet* soloed Elune" |
| 04:43.51 | kd3 | oh wow; it looks like the wow magazine is using maps from atlas |
| 04:44.15 | Amarande | As for the PvP flag issue, I'm not sure why flying over SW or Org should need special handling of the PvP flag ... when you're flying over a zone, you're *in that zone* |
| 04:44.23 | Amarande | and since it seems the city flagging is triggered by being in the zone ... |
| 04:44.32 | Jamash | true enough |
| 04:44.35 | kd3 | http://cde.cerosmedia.com/1R4be16d2a32de7608.cde/page/26 |
| 04:45.45 | Amarande | I do still have to wonder if an MMORPG, no matter how PvE oriented, cannot stay PvE forever if it wants to stick around the maximum length of time, though |
| 04:46.14 | Amarande | Not to mention the games that stay the most popular the longest, apart from WoW, seem to virtually all be PvP FPS |
| 04:46.29 | Amarande | however, that can't quite be compared |
| 04:46.48 | Amarande | you don't need to invest hundreds of hours over months and months in Arenas to be able to play Counterstrike |
| 04:46.56 | Jamash | the game that's stayed popular the longest is starcraft |
| 04:47.08 | Amarande | when PvP gets serious in WoW, if you haven't a high Arena rating and tons of points to spend to get the resilience, you're just griefer kibble |
| 04:47.39 | Dagmar | Amarande: They may be about to change that, since they fixed Dalaran and WG so their special zones didn't reach to the moon |
| 04:48.11 | Dagmar | Amarande: I mean, did you ever have the pleasure of being forcibly dismounted while over Dalaran at about six miles up? You land in freaking Sholazar sometimes |
| 04:48.49 | kd3 | that was fun |
| 04:49.13 | Dagmar | "scenic" is about the nicest word I could put to it. |
| 04:49.30 | Jamash | I did that intentionally in nagrand |
| 04:49.39 | Jamash | the jump-o-tron would put a 3-min slowfall on you |
| 04:49.52 | Dagmar | Someone might be "just" flying over Stormwind with no real anything in mind other than where they're heading to. Being flagged for being a mile and a half over the city would suck |
| 04:49.55 | Jamash | so I flew up to maximum height and drifted across the entire zone |
| 04:50.39 | Dagmar | ...but if someone tries to lead a flying guard away... FLAGS 4 EVERYBUDDY |
| 04:50.57 | Jamash | wow, SC2 is on the XFire top ten before being released |
| 04:52.34 | Dagmar | Herloooo GameStop beta keys |
| 04:52.44 | Dagmar | Speakin of which I should probably deal with that when I get home tonight |
| 04:53.14 | Dagmar | I still don't care much about a beta with little to no single-player, but... it's not like I'm not going to not buy the game when it comes out, and I'm not some 10-year-old with no money |
| 04:54.13 | kd3 | hm; has malamanteau been salted yet? |
| 04:55.42 | Jamash | the beta has map editor |
| 04:56.12 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm kinda a sucker for those |
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| 05:08.59 | Jerub | i get the feeling that wikipedia really hates xkcd some days |
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| 05:09.34 | WobWork | You looked it up, too? =) |
| 05:10.49 | Jerub | WobWork: of course i did. |
| 05:19.11 | Kraps | Jerub: ? |
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| 05:55.06 | cog|away | http://www.itnews.com.au/News/174375,holy-shit-conroy-what-the-fuck-people-are-you-insane.aspx (SFW in spite of url) |
| 05:55.15 | cog|away | (and that's kinda the point ><) |
| 05:55.58 | kd3 | ...wtf? |
| 05:56.08 | kd3 | ugh |
| 05:56.10 | cog|away | gogo seo? |
| 05:56.46 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 05:56.57 | kd3 | and with that, it's time to let the caffeine wear off |
| 05:57.17 | WobWork | oh hey, pidgin italicises offline people |
| 05:57.20 | WobWork | that's pretty cool |
| 05:58.28 | Corrodias2 | cog|away: after a test, i have determined that you can put any text you want after the number and comma |
| 05:58.32 | Corrodias2 | yet i am amused |
| 05:58.44 | cog|away | lol >< |
| 05:59.02 | WobWork | Corrodias2: yeah =) It was originally much more tame |
| 05:59.15 | WobWork | but it didn't ... express how I felt about the link |
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| 05:59.37 | WobWork | kd3: that wasn't much caffiene, eh? |
| 06:00.20 | kd3 | meh, I switched from my dual-head card to my single-head (that's a freaking 32"). I have to relog X to get it to work properly |
| 06:00.32 | kd3 | just waiting for all of my servers to connect before I set my away flag |
| 06:00.59 | kd3 | too much caffeine, rather |
| 06:01.11 | kd3 | waits some more for the last slow server to do its thing |
| 06:05.11 | DWSR | Lich King? |
| 06:05.13 | DWSR | DEAD MAN! |
| 06:05.18 | DWSR | just earned his Kingslayer |
| 06:06.20 | WobWork | grats! |
| 06:06.34 | DWSR | thanks. |
| 06:07.23 | DWSR | Been working on him for 3 weeks. |
| 06:07.33 | DWSR | Finally got a shaman in our group, 1 night. |
| 06:07.41 | DWSR | BL is so OP. |
| 06:08.00 | ajmitch | DWSR: 25-man? |
| 06:08.07 | DWSR | No, 10m unfortunately. |
| 06:08.19 | DWSR | Guild's trying to get bigger, we're hoping this will help. |
| 06:08.37 | Lunessa | Gratz man! |
| 06:08.45 | ajmitch | knows that feeling, we're just a 10-man guild now |
| 06:08.57 | Jamash | 10 > 25 |
| 06:09.24 | DWSR | Jamash: Yeah, but 25m drops better loot and lets me earn my shadowmourne. |
| 06:10.05 | Jamash | so glad they're equating loot drops in cata |
| 06:10.09 | DWSR | I'm not. |
| 06:10.13 | DWSR | 25m should drop better gear. |
| 06:10.37 | Jamash | why? |
| 06:10.49 | DWSR | Because 1) You have to carry 15 other assholes. and 2) You have to carry 15 other assholes. |
| 06:11.05 | Jamash | why not just delete 25-mans entirely then |
| 06:11.17 | DWSR | Because how are those 15 assholes going to get loot otherwise? |
| 06:11.22 | Jamash | they're not |
| 06:11.24 | Jamash | hahahahahaha |
| 06:11.33 | DWSR | Yeah, but then they're not happy. |
| 06:11.40 | DWSR | And unhappy customers cancel their accounts. |
| 06:11.45 | DWSR | Anyway, I'm just being cynical. |
| 06:11.51 | DWSR | I'm going to bed a Kingslayer. |
| 06:11.54 | DWSR | NIGHT NIGHT BITCHEZ! |
| 06:12.02 | WobWork | your wife is a kingslayer? |
| 06:12.07 | Jamash | ^ |
| 06:12.16 | WobWork | (or hubby) |
| 06:13.20 | Thunder_Child | i wish http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1872#comic |
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| 07:21.45 | Esamynn | gotta Love CAD: http://www.cad-comic.com/sillies/20100505 |
| 07:22.47 | Corrodias2 | i don't think i get it |
| 07:22.59 | Corrodias2 | and i say this because the part i get isn't funny |
| 07:25.03 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias2: if it's not as good as everyone expects... |
| 07:25.33 | zenzio | yeah, but what about that? Almost every developer faces that potential issue |
| 07:25.46 | Thunder_Child | not with the hype of SC2 |
| 07:25.52 | Corrodias2 | if it's not good, people won't buy it and they'll go back to playing SC1 |
| 07:25.53 | zenzio | John Romero is about to make you his bitch! |
| 07:26.04 | Corrodias2 | kind of a lame thing to lead up to in a comic, IMO. |
| 07:27.13 | Corrodias2 | he could have made it funny by carrying the metaphor out, either straight or turning it upside down by going off in the wrong direction, classic comedy there. vaguely implying a disappointing game is... i dunno. imagine the catholic church producing a comic. if it's funny, the church is a comedian. if it's not... DOT DOT DOT |
| 07:27.21 | WobWork | Corrodias2: wait |
| 07:27.22 | WobWork | cad |
| 07:27.23 | WobWork | funny? |
| 07:27.27 | WobWork | where have you -been-? |
| 07:27.50 | Corrodias2 | i didn't want to say it; i try to give it a chance. |
| 07:28.05 | WobWork | Was that even -trying- to be funny? |
| 07:28.12 | WobWork | (that comic there, specifically) |
| 07:28.20 | WobWork | I think it was just trying to make a point |
| 07:28.29 | Corrodias2 | well, you make a good point, maybe it isn't. i just assumed so because of the format. |
| 07:28.38 | WobWork | (even so, it still presents it terribly) |
| 07:29.16 | WobWork | and tbh, I'm not really sure what point he's aiming for |
| 07:29.20 | Corrodias2 | perhaps the writer is trying to teach us a lesson about the credibility of drawings as a medium for serious discussion. |
| 07:29.38 | Corrodias2 | apparently that hyped games that turn out bad disappoint people |
| 07:29.41 | WobWork | maybe he should write more about miscarriage |
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| 07:31.13 | Corrodias2 | now there's a secret jewel in that comic, because it spawned tens of far more amusing alterations. it was like a pre-joke. like so: http://images.4chan.org/co/src/1273645207482.jpg |
| 07:31.48 | Corrodias2 | maybe he makes comics on a higher level than we realize. he was making a canvas for other people to make humor with. |
| 07:31.58 | zenzio | I don't get that one |
| 07:32.03 | WobWork | methinks you're attributing too much there |
| 07:32.13 | Corrodias2 | that's the doom marine from the doom comic |
| 07:32.26 | Corrodias2 | that is his name because that is what he does, he marines. |
| 07:32.27 | zenzio | there's a Doom comic? |
| 07:32.37 | WobWork | there's a Doom -movie- |
| 07:32.40 | WobWork | of course there's a comic =P |
| 07:32.51 | zenzio | there's a Doom movie? From when? |
| 07:32.51 | Corrodias2 | yep, http://www.doomworld.com/10years/doomcomic/ |
| 07:32.56 | Corrodias2 | origin of the term "RIP AND TEAR" |
| 07:33.15 | Thunder_Child | really zenzio? |
| 07:33.30 | zenzio | yes, really |
| 07:33.34 | Thunder_Child | zenzio: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0419706/ |
| 07:33.58 | zenzio | don't act so surprised, surely you remember the discussion where it turned out that I've seen none of the series everyone considers good |
| 07:34.08 | Corrodias2 | it was no uwe boll movie, but it was no blockbuster. |
| 07:34.09 | Thunder_Child | um...no |
| 07:34.16 | WobWork | not uwe |
| 07:34.25 | WobWork | (thankfully) |
| 07:34.44 | WobWork | oh, misread 'no' as 'an' |
| 07:36.07 | Corrodias2 | the mind-warping presence of uwe boll in that sentence made it possibl. |
| 07:36.24 | WobWork | it's true |
| 07:36.27 | WobWork | damn the man |
| 07:36.35 | Jamash | I've seen him |
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| 07:36.38 | Jamash | he was at PAX |
| 07:36.42 | Jamash | he's awesome in person |
| 07:37.05 | Corrodias2 | i hope he's under no delusion that he makes good movies |
| 07:37.09 | Jamash | because he doesn't care how much people hate him |
| 07:37.16 | bluspacecow | -_- |
| 07:37.17 | WobWork | I think he is under no delusions |
| 07:37.21 | zenzio | I remember some boxing thing with Uwe some time ago... how did that go again? |
| 07:37.22 | WobWork | he does it for the money |
| 07:37.23 | bluspacecow | having trouble logging on the PTR |
| 07:37.28 | Jamash | he's the world's most successful troll |
| 07:37.29 | bluspacecow | anyone else getting this error : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/PTR%20html%20login%20error.jpg |
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| 07:37.55 | zenzio | bluspacecow: what do you mean; with the HTML, or just a problem logging in? |
| 07:38.03 | Corrodias2 | as far as i recall, somebody tried to fight him and lost, which was predictable enough |
| 07:38.11 | bluspacecow | i mean i try to login and get that error come up |
| 07:38.21 | bluspacecow | ive copied my toons and my ptr account is on battle.net |
| 07:38.43 | bluspacecow | i try the made up email address and gibberish and still get the same error >_> |
| 07:41.11 | Jamash | ptr's down |
| 07:41.28 | Corrodias2 | it's such a classic quote now. "you are huge! that means you have huge guts!" |
| 07:41.49 | bluspacecow | -_- so you used to be able to login fine to the PTR and now you can't ? are you getting the same error I am ? |
| 07:42.00 | Jamash | I'm getting a different error |
| 07:42.07 | Jamash | I think because I haven't copied a character yet |
| 07:42.19 | bluspacecow | yeah you need to copy a toon first |
| 07:42.24 | bluspacecow | try copying a toon |
| 07:43.15 | WobWork | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ef/Rip_and_tear.png/220px-Rip_and_tear.png |
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| 07:47.33 | Fisker | lol retards |
| 07:47.40 | Fisker | they haven't fixed character copies yet |
| 07:48.02 | bluspacecow | i got a 2fer |
| 07:48.16 | bluspacecow | used one character copie and it copied to both realms >_> |
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| 08:15.10 | Fisker | argh |
| 08:15.14 | Fisker | you gotta be fucking kidding me |
| 08:16.48 | Fisker | Oh well |
| 08:16.57 | Fisker | atleast i know why it would load TPB trackers |
| 08:17.42 | zenzio | ..? |
| 08:17.56 | Kalroth | usux |
| 08:18.53 | Fisker | My ISP just decided to route the IP to their block page |
| 08:19.07 | zenzio | which IP? |
| 08:20.48 | Fisker | The IP used by the TPB servers? |
| 08:20.48 | Fisker | or IP's if you will |
| 08:21.04 | zenzio | I'm confused |
| 08:21.17 | zenzio | was there supposed to be a "not" before the "load" in your sentence? |
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| 08:22.07 | Fisker | yeah zenzio |
| 08:22.13 | Fisker | i've slept for a grand total of like 4 hours |
| 08:22.15 | Fisker | give me a break :( |
| 08:22.27 | bluspacecow | 5.5 :) |
| 08:22.43 | zenzio | Fisker: I was just wondering if I'd missed something when I was disconnected :-p |
| 08:25.09 | zenzio | Fisker: now's your chance! "We are looking to expand our European English Community Team." |
| 08:25.33 | Fisker | old |
| 08:26.10 | zenzio | of course it is, everyone knows I'm not as up to date as you are - no-one is |
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| 08:29.59 | Wobin | tekkub, seen the latest Teefury shirt? |
| 08:30.09 | Antiarc | holy bajubblies :o |
| 08:30.17 | tekkub | heh |
| 08:30.18 | Antiarc | Android 2.2 is running at ~37 mflops under 2.2 |
| 08:30.23 | Antiarc | Compared to ~7 mflops under 2.1 |
| 08:30.23 | tekkub | they're both catching on |
| 08:30.31 | tekkub | yesterday's woot shirt was good |
| 08:31.01 | zenzio | given how Blizzard keeps saying they're unhappy with what became of Heroic Strike, and how it was supposed to be a "bleed off excess rage", I'm puzzled why they gave us a glyph that said "here, have a free Heroic Strike" |
| 08:31.29 | tekkub | http://s3.amazonaws.com/wootsaleimages/Bearly_Significant_s36Detail.png |
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| 08:32.15 | haste | Antiarc: so JIT is enabled on 2.2? |
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| 08:32.30 | Antiarc | haste: Yup. |
| 08:32.36 | haste | Antiarc: and what phone P: ? |
| 08:32.41 | Antiarc | The Nexus One |
| 08:33.08 | Antiarc | http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/11/exclusive-androidpolice-coms-nexus-one-is-running-android-2-2-froyo-how-fast-is-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/ |
| 08:33.19 | `-FISKER_Q | is it leaked Antiarc? |
| 08:33.19 | `-FISKER_Q | oh |
| 08:33.28 | Antiarc | It's rumored to be dropping on the 19th |
| 08:33.33 | Antiarc | With full flash support, noless. |
| 08:33.36 | zenzio | Fisker definitely has the prettiest backup nick |
| 08:33.38 | haste | Antiarc: htc magic gets 1.7 mflops on android 2.1 :p |
| 08:33.54 | zenzio | personally I wish they wouldn't include Flash on phones |
| 08:34.51 | Fisker | btw the block disappeared again :P |
| 08:34.57 | Fisker | only lasted for like half an hour |
| 08:35.03 | Fisker | i wonder if it was a test |
| 08:35.19 | zenzio | your ISP's boss was angry that his daughter couldn't get her Hannah Montana anymore |
| 08:35.23 | zenzio | so they had to remove the block |
| 08:36.43 | Antiarc | Interestingly, NPD's latest report says that Android phones are now outselling iPhone phones. |
| 08:36.53 | Antiarc | Gonna be really interesting to see what ends up coming out of this. |
| 08:37.09 | zenzio | it'll flip back this summer |
| 08:37.18 | zenzio | then we'll see again this fall |
| 08:37.20 | Fisker | unfortunately zenzio |
| 08:37.24 | Fisker | but tards = tards ;3 |
| 08:37.34 | Antiarc | Definitely gonna be a dip back towards apple in the summer, but the EVO and Incredible are gonna push a lot of market share. |
| 08:37.47 | Antiarc | And Google's gonna be launching their iPad competitor on Verizon |
| 08:37.53 | Antiarc | So that'll be an interesting one to watch as well |
| 08:38.39 | Fisker | The iPad was the day i lost faith in mainstream media |
| 08:38.39 | zenzio | I'm definitely curious to see how it goes; there are an increasing amount of interesting Android-phones |
| 08:38.58 | Antiarc | If the Google tablet has the same level of hackability as my N1 it's a sale for me. |
| 08:39.05 | Antiarc | Assuming it's priced well, naturally. |
| 08:39.17 | Fisker | Before iPad Announcement: OMFG WHAT IS IT?! After iPad Announcement: LOL IT'S SHIT After iPad release: LOL FAG WHY DON'T YOU HAVE ONE YET? |
| 08:40.02 | Antiarc | I love the ipad for its hardware, but hate it for pretty much everything else associated with it. |
| 08:40.05 | Fisker | Steve Jobs could go on the scene and take a big dump and sell that |
| 08:43.37 | Fisker | btw Antiarc do they have any scores on the desire |
| 08:43.43 | Fisker | i assume it would be around the same as the nexus one? |
| 08:43.50 | Antiarc | The desire is pretty much the nexus 1.1 |
| 08:44.01 | Antiarc | So yeah, assume similar scores |
| 08:44.07 | haste | Fisker: Use two iPads, multitask! |
| 08:44.21 | Fisker | That's probably their business model |
| 08:44.24 | Fisker | "Built to scale" |
| 08:44.34 | Fisker | Buy n iPads for n tasks at the same time! |
| 08:44.45 | Antiarc | Apple's business model is "sell shrink-wrapped non-replicable content, like news twinkies" |
| 08:45.05 | zenzio | but you can only perform two tasks with the same credit card, or five within the household |
| 08:46.01 | tekkub | I have no *need* for an iPad, just like I had none for an iPhone |
| 08:46.20 | tekkub | I'll patiently wait for Google to drop an android tablet, and probably buy it the week it comes out |
| 08:46.29 | tekkub | like I did the nexus |
| 08:46.49 | Wobin | http://catchthefilm.com/fox-rooster-war/ |
| 08:46.52 | Wobin | awesome =) |
| 08:46.56 | Arrowmaster | i keep considering getting a nexus one |
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| 08:47.23 | Fisker | i'm not sure it's worth it at this point |
| 08:47.31 | tekkub | I love mine, but I have nothing to compare it against except a now broken, free, first gen iPhone |
| 08:47.32 | Arrowmaster | neither am i |
| 08:47.37 | Fisker | unless 2.2 is gonna be locked out for the desire or legend |
| 08:47.48 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I adore mine. |
| 08:47.56 | Fisker | same here :P |
| 08:47.59 | zenzio | I'm still wanting an Android phone with keyboard... can't decide whether I should get the Milestone (Droid) or wait for some newer |
| 08:47.59 | Antiarc | It's a hell of a great phone, and Android is a really nice environment. |
| 08:48.09 | Arrowmaster | but ive heard other newer phones might not get the same kinda support of new android versions that the nexus one will be getting |
| 08:48.17 | Fisker | I'm just saying that had i not had a Nexus One right now, i'd probably have gone for one of the newer HTC phones :P |
| 08:48.19 | Antiarc | zenzio: The folks I've talked to with the hardware keyboard usually say it's not as nice as they'd imagined |
| 08:48.22 | Dagmar | tekkub: Honestly, probably the only thing keeping them from crushing the iPad with one is that the market is still somewhat developing |
| 08:48.49 | zenzio | Antiarc: I'm using the developer phone (basically the HTC Dream), which has a keyboard, and I love it |
| 08:48.59 | Dagmar | tekkub: I can *definitely* see one being financially feasible to build now, and things are only getting better |
| 08:49.05 | tekkub | I hate hardware keyboards |
| 08:49.08 | Arrowmaster | i thought google was making a chromium os for their netbook/tablet though, so i doubt they would release an android tablet |
| 08:49.23 | Wobin | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/05/10/beyond-epic-star-wars-music-on-an-electone/ |
| 08:49.23 | Dagmar | tekkub: 2TB will be the new "big flash disk" size by winter |
| 08:49.25 | tekkub | netbooks, not tablets |
| 08:49.27 | Antiarc | zenzio: Heh, noted. I've wanted to try one. |
| 08:49.28 | Wobin | ahaha =) |
| 08:49.40 | tekkub | if they put chrome OS on a tablet it is going to faceplant |
| 08:49.51 | Antiarc | Yeah, they need to launch with an established application base. |
| 08:50.03 | Antiarc | Email and picasa isn't enough to sell a tablet against the ipad. |
| 08:50.27 | tekkub | they'll have youtube, you knwo they will |
| 08:50.40 | tekkub | and probably facebook, the nexus had it stock |
| 08:50.53 | Arrowmaster | well i think chrome os was more for netbook not tablet, people want apps now |
| 08:50.54 | tekkub | facebook could be a huge selling point |
| 08:51.02 | Arrowmaster | fuck facebook |
| 08:51.11 | Antiarc | Facebook's relevance annoys me. |
| 08:51.13 | Fisker | i would if i could |
| 08:51.18 | zenzio | we may say "fuck Facebook", but look at mobile phone commercials these days |
| 08:51.22 | zenzio | it *is* a selling point |
| 08:51.26 | Antiarc | Yup. |
| 08:51.26 | tekkub | Oh I hate facebook |
| 08:51.30 | Dagmar | Like, I had an EEE 901 for about a week until someone snatched it--you can definitely functionality that would make it worth it in that size now |
| 08:51.32 | tekkub | I don't even log in to it anymore |
| 08:51.36 | Antiarc | Unfortunately, it's a fact of life for any connected device. |
| 08:51.37 | Arrowmaster | i havent seen a commercial in a very long time |
| 08:51.40 | Dagmar | I've got an EEE PC 1000 on it's way to me now (40Gb flash) |
| 08:51.45 | Antiarc | I keep my account around only for developer purposes. |
| 08:51.51 | Antiarc | It's just not useful to me. |
| 08:51.55 | tekkub | I should just delete the account, but it gives my "friends" and "family" the illusion that I'm using it since twitter pipes in |
| 08:51.58 | haste | sits on a EEE PC 1005PH |
| 08:52.08 | haste | but not for much longer! |
| 08:52.10 | haste | Battery 0: Discharging, 3%, 00:17:37 remaining |
| 08:52.12 | haste | ffffuuuu |
| 08:52.16 | Arrowmaster | i use twitter less than facebook |
| 08:52.28 | Antiarc | I use twitter a lot more than any other social network |
| 08:52.35 | Dagmar | haste: That has the 6-cell, right? |
| 08:52.43 | haste | think so |
| 08:52.54 | Arrowmaster | i dont even understand the appeal of twitter |
| 08:53.11 | Dagmar | ASUS is dropping something the day after tomorrow... It'll *probably* have the N450 or the Ion in it |
| 08:53.18 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: It's very useful once you find the right niche for it. |
| 08:53.30 | Antiarc | You kind of have to massage it into shape, but it's a great tool when harnessed well. |
| 08:53.39 | Antiarc | Also, the pundit speculation is that the tablet is an Android tablet. |
| 08:53.45 | Dagmar | Yeah, it was pretty freaking handy during the floods until it got stolen |
| 08:53.49 | Antiarc | "Bloomberg scored some more details in an interview with Marquett Smith, Verizon's VP of corporate communications; the tablet is said be Android-based, and more details will be released later this week. Let the wait begin! " |
| 08:54.18 | Dagmar | You can get a really clear idea of how much of a place is flooded so long as you've got twitterers all over and the internet still works |
| 08:54.58 | tekkub | Arrowmaster: twitter is simple to explain |
| 08:54.59 | Fisker | later this week? :o |
| 08:55.04 | tekkub | you like to bitch, yes? |
| 08:55.06 | Fisker | hope you won't have to wait ??? years then |
| 08:55.19 | Fisker | i.e. to get it in europe |
| 08:55.20 | tekkub | what if you don't have anyone around to bitch at? |
| 08:55.23 | tekkub | what do you do? |
| 08:55.28 | tekkub | bitch at your cats? |
| 08:55.36 | haste | asus + europe == fail |
| 08:55.38 | tekkub | then people think you're some sort of crazy cat lady |
| 08:55.44 | Arrowmaster | no i bitch at somebody on irc or a friend in an IM |
| 08:55.44 | haste | they're so shit slow at pushing their stuff |
| 08:55.49 | tekkub | this is the need twitter fills |
| 08:55.59 | haste | I was planning on buying 1201N, but they never managed to get it to the stores |
| 08:56.11 | Arrowmaster | i dont bitch to the web in general, i find that just stupid |
| 08:56.15 | Fisker | baw haste |
| 08:56.23 | Arrowmaster | dont want everybody reading my rants |
| 08:56.39 | tekkub | ah but see, there's built in protection for that |
| 08:56.43 | Arrowmaster | or being able to pull them up in a job interview |
| 08:56.46 | tekkub | you can't rant in 140 chars |
| 08:57.17 | tekkub | people can pull up all sorts of shit about me, they dont' even have to try |
| 08:57.33 | tekkub | http://www.google.com/search?q=tekkub |
| 08:57.36 | tekkub | all me ^^ |
| 08:57.37 | Arrowmaster | nobody can find stuff about me |
| 08:58.12 | Arrowmaster | not even my real name even though i fucking own and use myfirstnamemylastname.com |
| 08:58.55 | zenzio | lies, that domain doesn't exist |
| 08:59.34 | Arrowmaster | some ass has been using my real name as his name in second life, we have the same first name but for some reason he hes using my last name |
| 08:59.50 | Arrowmaster | and not even trying to hide his real last name |
| 08:59.52 | Fisker | owned |
| 09:00.10 | Arrowmaster | so now when i google my name i get all these second life blogs |
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| 09:14.23 | zenzio | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/05/11/demotivational-posters-with-yor-mom/ |
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| 09:16.30 | Wobin | zenzio, http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/s.php?f=052010&p=yo_momma_was_so_fat_jokes.jpg |
| 09:19.32 | Wobin | rofl |
| 09:19.50 | Wobin | for every single event now, there's a "Bush event" to compare it to |
| 09:19.57 | Wobin | (for Obama) |
| 09:20.16 | Wobin | "Is this now Obama's <insert Bush terrible choice>?" |
| 09:20.42 | Kalroth | hah |
| 09:20.51 | Kalroth | Bushgate! |
| 09:21.20 | zenzio | but really, who didn't see the Bush failures coming? |
| 09:21.30 | zenzio | children shouldn't follow in their father's footsteps |
| 09:22.41 | Arrowmaster | well when it was bush vs gore its not like the us people were going to come out of it without getting fucked either way |
| 09:29.38 | Wobin | >.- @ PA |
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| 10:24.03 | zenzio | "Weâre very happy to announce that Dead Space PC lovers can relax! Dead Space 2 is officially coming to PC" \o/ |
| 10:25.00 | haste | needs more penumbra |
| 10:25.22 | zenzio | of the Dark Plague kind? |
| 10:25.32 | zenzio | I really liked the first Dead Space |
| 10:25.52 | Fisker | LDAP kd3 |
| 10:25.59 | Fisker | zenzio that actually just made me more tense |
| 10:26.11 | Fisker | Dead Space is probably the worst console port i've ever experienced |
| 10:26.12 | zenzio | yeah, LDAP does that to people |
| 10:26.19 | Fisker | it even beats Saint's Row 2 |
| 10:26.32 | zenzio | shrugs |
| 10:26.46 | zenzio | I don't remember anything about Dead Space that made it feel like a bad console port |
| 10:26.58 | zenzio | you could notice it was meant to be playable on consoles too, but that's a different matter |
| 10:28.21 | Jamash | they should stop making shooters for consoles |
| 10:28.23 | haste | zenzio: penumbra as in, penumbra: overture and penumbra: black plague |
| 10:28.48 | zenzio | haste: bah, *Black* Plague... I knew Dark sounded wrong |
| 10:37.21 | Arrowmaster | i bought those, havent played them yet |
| 10:37.50 | zenzio | I had hoped for a little more story from Black Plague, but it was still good |
| 10:38.01 | Arrowmaster | why is world of goo the only linux game ive seen that you can get as a .deb? |
| 10:39.28 | haste | people use .deb? |
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| 10:41.34 | Arrowmaster | yes, and i hate installing things that arent .debs |
| 10:45.35 | Corrodias2 | what are they usually? source code you have to |
| 10:45.38 | Corrodias2 | Make? |
| 10:46.11 | Arrowmaster | all the games from that bundle except for world of goo are binary installers |
| 10:46.55 | Corrodias2 | that makes sense. what's a .deb? |
| 10:46.58 | Arrowmaster | oh wait gish and samorost2 are just archives |
| 10:47.16 | Corrodias2 | plan archive: best installation scheme ever |
| 10:47.19 | Corrodias2 | *plain |
| 10:47.38 | Arrowmaster | a .deb is a binary package for debian based systems that automates the installation |
| 10:47.45 | Arrowmaster | and uninstallation |
| 10:48.08 | Corrodias2 | before i go any farther, what's a debian based system? |
| 10:48.16 | Arrowmaster | debian.org |
| 10:49.01 | Corrodias2 | a subset of linux; wouldn't that make it impractical to use as a distribution system for a major product meant to run on a variety of OS's? |
| 10:49.24 | haste | ubuntu is debian based and thus uses deb files |
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| 10:49.38 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt suggesting it be the only way to make the files available |
| 10:49.54 | haste | but I agree, archives or sh files with inline archives are the best solution |
| 10:49.57 | Arrowmaster | but its seriously not that hard to make them |
| 10:50.02 | Corrodias2 | ah |
| 10:50.14 | Arrowmaster | i hate the sh files with inline archives |
| 10:50.23 | Corrodias2 | true, you weren't |
| 10:50.37 | haste | what's wrong with those :p ? |
| 10:50.54 | Arrowmaster | i dont know what the hell they are doing |
| 10:51.18 | Arrowmaster | the one for my raid controller put weird shit everywhere |
| 10:52.02 | Arrowmaster | then i found somebody had made a .deb of it and im using that now |
| 10:52.18 | haste | osmos is tar.gz at least |
| 10:52.22 | haste | so is world of goo |
| 10:52.42 | haste | penumbra was inline archive if I remember correctly |
| 10:53.19 | zenzio | what's an "inline archive"? Is the .gz/whatever embedded inside the .sh? |
| 10:53.29 | haste | pretty much |
| 10:53.33 | Arrowmaster | world of goo has a .deb though and ive been using that since their pay your own price promo |
| 10:53.39 | zenzio | hm, haven't encountered those before... interesting |
| 10:53.54 | Arrowmaster | commercial software seems to love them |
| 10:54.00 | haste | yeh |
| 10:54.18 | Arrowmaster | arent the nvidia drivers like that too? |
| 10:54.25 | haste | no, not directly |
| 10:54.34 | haste | oh wait |
| 10:54.39 | haste | actually they are |
| 10:54.46 | haste | at least they were :p |
| 10:54.55 | Arrowmaster | never used the nvidia installer, just use whats in the debian repos |
| 10:54.58 | haste | I haven't used those directly in a while |
| 11:00.01 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 11:00.19 | Fisker | zenzio the controls and viewpoints were absolutely horrible |
| 11:00.32 | Fisker | and you couldn't even adjust your resolution properly if i recall |
| 11:01.27 | Arrowmaster | i still point to halo as a bad port, game was unplayable on pc imho due to the fov |
| 11:01.46 | Fisker | wouldn't know, halo sucks |
| 11:02.50 | zenzio | Fisker: I had no issues with resolution at least, but maybe I was lucky. The controls were unusual for a computer game, but they weren't bad when you were used to them (in my opinion). The viewport... well, I had trouble adjusting, but it was an interesting way to do it |
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| 11:31.42 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/2_1_lol.jpg |
| 11:33.43 | miica | how i set secure action button types |
| 11:33.49 | miica | like if i want cast spell |
| 11:33.51 | Shirik | This, my friends, is why you test code before deploying it |
| 11:33.52 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism/TB2&oldid=361658524 |
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| 11:44.10 | miica | something like SetAtribute("type", "spell"); and then SetAtribute("spell1", "Teleport: Dalaran"); ? :P |
| 11:45.40 | Kaso | pretty much |
| 11:45.49 | miica | it should work like that? |
| 11:46.56 | Wobin | is there a resilience cap? |
| 11:47.07 | Wobin | (for priests?) |
| 11:48.13 | Kaso | miica: well obviously without seeing you create the button etc i cant say 100% but those two functions are about right |
| 11:48.36 | miica | http://pastebin.com/2MYAK4PE |
| 11:49.02 | Kaso | i seem to recall its around 1400 Wobin, but im not sure |
| 11:49.31 | Kaso | the cap is soft though, it only caps the damage taken reduction to 33% |
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| 11:49.39 | Kaso | the -crit chance keeps going |
| 11:49.40 | miica | dman spell name was wrong.. |
| 11:49.47 | Wobin | aha |
| 11:50.56 | Kaso | miica: it's always the obvious stuff ;p |
| 11:51.41 | miica | i always typo dalran :< |
| 11:51.45 | miica | .. |
| 11:52.00 | Kaso | lol |
| 11:52.14 | Wobin | point in case =P |
| 11:52.14 | miica | but if i want use second button too i need to register them? |
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| 11:57.54 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
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| 11:58.00 | Fisker | there's no preinstalled mspaint in mac? |
| 12:00.12 | miica | :(( |
| 12:00.17 | miica | can get second button work |
| 12:00.22 | miica | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.23 | miica | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:00.30 | miica | is it like that+ :P |
| 12:01.29 | miica | i also did this MainButton:RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonDown", "RightButtonDown"); |
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| 12:01.58 | miica | http://pastebin.com/3dv8sQHb |
| 12:02.01 | miica | wut i am doing wrong :< |
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| 12:04.36 | zenzio | post on MMOC's "we've removed Cataclysm stuff" thread: "is blizzard crying? It feels like a BIG BABY" - I wonder if he sees the irony |
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| 12:08.24 | Wobin | zenzio, it's good to see wow.com also remaining classy =P |
| 12:08.43 | foxlit | miica: you don't put functions in attributes, generally |
| 12:08.51 | foxlit | the proper pair is |
| 12:09.11 | foxlit | b:SetAttribute("type2", "function"); b.function = function(...) end |
| 12:09.53 | foxlit | Although since securehandlers, you can also use b:SetAttribute("_function", function(...) end); |
| 12:11.01 | miica | ok |
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| 12:13.27 | foxlit | There's a table summarizing those on http://www.wowwiki.com/SecureActionButtonTemplate |
| 12:21.08 | Adys | Wobin, wow.com has never been classy :p |
| 12:30.27 | miica | foxlit: still dont work hmm.. |
| 12:30.44 | miica | foxlit: maybe i didint register keys correctly? |
| 12:31.00 | foxlit | :HookScript("OnClick", print) |
| 12:31.04 | foxlit | See what fires. |
| 12:32.42 | miica | ok it fires rightbutton too |
| 12:32.51 | miica | so it must be way i do type2 attribute |
| 12:34.05 | miica | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:34.06 | miica | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:34.27 | miica | isnt that correct? |
| 12:34.32 | foxlit | That should work |
| 12:34.48 | miica | well it dont load addon if it is like that |
| 12:34.55 | miica | but if i comment those lines it works.. |
| 12:35.00 | foxlit | You have an extra parenthesis after end |
| 12:35.09 | miica | oh |
| 12:35.15 | foxlit | which is a syntax error; You should turn on "show lua errors" if you haven't already |
| 12:35.19 | Fisker | foxlit :( |
| 12:35.38 | foxlit | Fisker: will the rain ever end? |
| 12:35.47 | Fisker | did end here |
| 12:36.04 | Fisker | my shitty isp tested ip blocking of the pirate bay today :( |
| 12:36.51 | foxlit | Not flimsy dns stuff? |
| 12:37.03 | Fisker | nope |
| 12:37.13 | Fisker | i don't use my ISP's DNS |
| 12:37.21 | Fisker | that's why i was "zomg" when i first saw it |
| 12:37.29 | Fisker | then i double checked both in nslookup and so on |
| 12:37.44 | Fisker | and then i tried http://theip and it still greeted me with the page |
| 12:37.56 | Fisker | and yes it was the actual TPB ip and not the one they replace it with |
| 12:38.14 | Fisker | so i was like bawww |
| 12:38.26 | Fisker | Then the block disappeared like half an hour later |
| 12:39.30 | Fisker | nooo kd3 |
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| 13:10.30 | zenzio | hm, here's a signature for Shirik to remember... |
| 13:10.33 | zenzio | " |
| 13:10.33 | zenzio | it's not the size of your regexp, but how you use it that counts" |
| 13:10.49 | zenzio | (bah at initial newline being copied) |
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| 13:16.34 | miica | http://pastebin.com/edRs9ZL9 i did portal addon |
| 13:17.55 | zenzio | is that for mages? |
| 13:18.18 | miica | yes |
| 13:18.25 | Lopeppeppy | Teleports, I'd guess. |
| 13:18.34 | miica | well there is portals too :D |
| 13:18.41 | miica | but it needs little fix |
| 13:18.44 | zenzio | I kept thinking Portal the game |
| 13:18.47 | miica | or tuning |
| 13:18.56 | zenzio | it looks interesting |
| 13:21.00 | miica | well you need texture |
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| 13:27.43 | Shirik | pokes Lopeppeppy |
| 13:28.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hey ouch! |
| 13:29.54 | Shirik | :( |
| 13:31.02 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think there's a square inch of me that doesn't hurt today, between a week of cold rain and the allergies. Beated with a sock of pennies in my sleep, I was. |
| 13:31.21 | Fisker | gentlehaste |
| 13:31.23 | Shirik | :( |
| 13:31.25 | Fisker | btw hi Shirik |
| 13:31.30 | Shirik | gives Lopeppeppy some morphine |
| 13:31.32 | Shirik | btw hi Fisker |
| 13:32.05 | Fisker | http://i44.tinypic.com/2wlzdk4.jpg <-zomg VM's |
| 13:32.41 | Shirik | zomg |
| 13:32.46 | Shirik | u has rocket whatever that thing was |
| 13:32.58 | Fisker | rocket? |
| 13:33.08 | Shirik | gift thing |
| 13:33.20 | Fisker | oh |
| 13:33.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, mac steam! |
| 13:33.21 | Fisker | old |
| 13:33.35 | Fisker | are you stalking me on the blotter page or something? |
| 13:33.46 | Lopeppeppy | And thanks for the good stuff, Shirik. *hugs* |
| 13:34.37 | Shirik | yes Fisker |
| 13:34.39 | Fisker | *tackles* |
| 13:34.51 | Fisker | thought you needed to be BFF's for that Shirik |
| 13:36.55 | Fisker | soon i will crush you |
| 13:40.04 | Shirik | no |
| 13:40.07 | Shirik | you cannot crush me |
| 13:40.09 | Shirik | I am too small |
| 13:40.13 | Shirik | I will fit in the cracks |
| 13:40.40 | krka | i bet you do... |
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| 13:43.40 | Fisker | that's what she said Shirik |
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| 13:50.23 | Fisker | haste |
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| 13:53.10 | Fisker | ok then i hate you haste |
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| 14:11.23 | Shirik | sleeps |
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| 16:23.40 | Lopeppeppy | Very wet. Much rain. Debating computerage. |
| 16:23.59 | Lopeppeppy | Upgrade 4+ year old desktop? Replace it? Swap to MacMini? |
| 16:25.23 | zenzelezz | 4+ years? Replace |
| 16:25.53 | zenzelezz | Mac Minis can chug when I run Xcode, browser and mail at the same time; don't know what they're like for games |
| 16:26.29 | Lopeppeppy | It's always been wonky with Blue Screen of Death, and Skeptical Peppy is skeptical that it will run WoW on the spiffy new specs for Cata, when we get them. anything I get will be specified as "must run the damn game" |
| 16:27.01 | zenzelezz | if your webshops are anything like ours, they offer package deals on motherboard, CPU, RAM, videocard that they have tested together, without having to resort to Dell or other manufacturers |
| 16:27.12 | zenzelezz | and those tend to be cheaper than buying the parts individually |
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| 16:30.42 | Lopeppeppy | All the shopping I've done has been to buy them separately, never a package like that. Perhaps either my skills at Newegg stink, or I just did it wrong 5 years ago. |
| 16:32.18 | zenzelezz | note the condition for my opinion, "if your webshops are anything like ours" |
| 16:32.22 | zenzelezz | may not be the same in the US |
| 16:32.28 | mikma | SwapMini, hoho |
| 16:32.41 | Lopeppeppy | I think you have better toys, zenzelezz. |
| 16:33.05 | zenzelezz | she could swap to a Mac, but I wouldn't go for a Mini |
| 16:34.15 | Lopeppeppy | I already have a monitor, I don't really want to replace the entire thing. All I want this new desktop to run is WoW. I use my laptop for regular surfing and day to day stuff. |
| 16:35.15 | zenzelezz | if you get a normal Mac, I think they come with support for additional monitors |
| 16:36.27 | zenzelezz | but anyhow, either get a Mac, or replace the computer... you may keep harddrives, DVD-ROM, and so on, but your'll most likely have to upgrade motherboard, CPU and RAM (and as you mentioned, videocard) |
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| 16:42.07 | Lunessa | Peppy - ^^ |
| 16:42.16 | Lunessa | If you want, I'll help you shop. |
| 16:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I think you have a mac. I'd love to see your ideas for what would be good. I can get some academic pricing, lord love my workplace! ...but for mac hardware I'm clueless! |
| 16:43.30 | zenzelezz | Mac hardware is easy |
| 16:43.36 | Lunessa | It's pretty easy. :) Any iMac or MacBook you buy will rock WOW. |
| 16:43.43 | Lopeppeppy | If you know it. I don't. |
| 16:44.09 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: it's basically a question of how big a monitor you want, and if you want slightly better video card |
| 16:44.43 | zenzelezz | I would have loved to have a 24" iMac at work... stuck with a Mac Mini |
| 16:45.24 | Lunessa | http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac?aid=AIC-NAUS-K2-CONFIGURE-IMAC-DESIGN&cp=CONFIGURE-IMAC-DESIGN |
| 16:45.46 | Lunessa | Even the base model kicks ass at WoW. |
| 16:46.13 | Lunessa | And educational discount is a nice little perk. :) |
| 16:46.25 | Lunessa | *coughs 'cause he gets one too* |
| 16:47.11 | Lopeppeppy | The apple site has a lower price than our site is listing. Booo. |
| 16:47.30 | Lunessa | And they'll give you an edu discount straight off the site. |
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| 16:48.35 | Lunessa | At home I have a 21.5", at work I have the 27" |
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| 16:49.23 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: bastard |
| 16:49.42 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Work let me take my old one home when they replaced it in the office. :) |
| 16:49.44 | zenzelezz | a 27" would've been awesome for Xcode |
| 16:50.17 | Lunessa | It is. ;) |
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| 16:51.35 | nevcairiel | I have two 18" or so at work, its kinda nice to at least have two screens, but i would love widescreens, and bigger ones <.< |
| 16:52.00 | NightHawkTheSane | has 2x 21" at work, and a 26" and 21" at home >.> |
| 16:52.25 | nevcairiel | I have a 24" at home, been pondering getting the same screen again for seconds |
| 16:52.36 | Lopeppeppy | I have two 21 at work, very nice. At home, one 22 or 24 or something widescreen. :) |
| 16:53.07 | alestane | "Be the first to read Ann Coulter's column every week"...I would rather _eat_glass_. |
| 16:53.21 | alestane | Bad advertising is bad. |
| 16:53.29 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: that's another gripe I have with the Mini... can't have more than one monitor on it |
| 16:54.13 | alestane | It's not really intended for that crowd. |
| 16:54.24 | zenzelezz | tell that to my boss :-p |
| 16:55.00 | Lunessa | alestane: I occasionally read her stuff. After all, I'm afflicted daily with extremists of all stripes and even blind pigs occasionally find acorns. |
| 16:55.18 | NightHawkTheSane | i want to get a mac mini for a htpc. |
| 16:55.51 | Lunessa | A mini would make an awesome central entertainment device. |
| 16:56.04 | alestane | Lunessa, any time I've tried I've practically choked on the semll of vitriol alone. |
| 16:56.09 | alestane | smell* |
| 16:56.43 | Lunessa | Yeah; I suspect a lot of that is hype to sell books and speaking engagements. |
| 16:56.55 | Lunessa | But yeah, she's pretty... vehement. |
| 16:57.02 | NightHawkTheSane | thats one word to use :P |
| 16:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | all I want this to do is run wow for me without frellin' crashing every 5 damn minutes. |
| 16:58.23 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: an iMac would be a nice choice if you don't want to deal with assembling a working Windows PC |
| 16:59.15 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, but then I'd have a useless monitor as well as a useless PC. |
| 16:59.36 | Lunessa | Actually, you could plug the monitor in for extra screen space. |
| 17:00.12 | Lunessa | all iMacs can address up to 32' of physical screens. |
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| 17:00.40 | Lunessa | And they've had support for that since... '93 |
| 17:01.49 | zenzelezz | 32 feet? |
| 17:02.45 | Lunessa | multiple monitors used as a single display. |
| 17:02.50 | Lopeppeppy | Wootski. Porn in large print! |
| 17:02.51 | Lunessa | My numbers are old. |
| 17:03.11 | zenzelezz | I just thought single apostrophe meant feet, double meant inch? |
| 17:03.28 | PProvost | yes |
| 17:03.31 | Lopeppeppy | you are correct, sir. |
| 17:03.55 | Lunessa | Yes, correct. |
| 17:10.03 | KarlKFI|work | porn's not so great on split monitors... but you can still full screen two videos at the same time... that's always fun |
| 17:10.38 | KarlKFI|work | now a 32' screen |
| 17:10.43 | KarlKFI|work | would suck |
| 17:11.45 | KarlKFI|work | mostly because nothing would be able to render it with enough pixels to want to stand less than 100' away short of a full cluster |
| 17:13.05 | Dagmar | ...said by someone without a high-def TV |
| 17:13.24 | Dagmar | 42" at 1920x1080 works fine in a normal room |
| 17:13.32 | Dagmar | Stop trying to *lick the screen* ya perv |
| 17:13.47 | Lopeppeppy | wants to watch KarlKFI|work do this. Fun times. |
| 17:13.52 | Dagmar | heh |
| 17:14.15 | KarlKFI|work | 32' != 32" |
| 17:14.19 | KarlKFI|work | l2read |
| 17:14.45 | Ackis | how about you all start using the metric system instead of fail system? :P |
| 17:14.47 | Ackis | l2world |
| 17:14.48 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: You could sell tickets. |
| 17:15.26 | Lopeppeppy | First I want to see the show to determine how much to charge. |
| 17:15.29 | miica | is it possible make somekind pie timer on button little like OmniCC which was in combat? |
| 17:15.29 | KarlKFI|work | inches and feet make things sound bigger. |
| 17:15.43 | miica | works* |
| 17:15.50 | Ackis | I dunno, 2.54 cm per inch == bigger numbers |
| 17:15.55 | Ackis | or you can downscale to mm, etc |
| 17:16.18 | miica | because i wanna make dkp per hour button and somekind "cooldown" in it :P |
| 17:17.02 | KarlKFI|work | no, everyone knows how big cm and mm are... inches and feet are nebulous... so they make things sound bigger |
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| 17:17.21 | Lopeppeppy | You can make a cooldown timer for a button that counts down during combat, I'm pretty sure the omnicc does that. |
| 17:17.58 | alestane | Just because the system is *simple,* and *easy to remember and convert, * doesn't offset the fact that it is originally French. |
| 17:18.40 | Dagmar | KarlKFI: utter nonsense |
| 17:18.56 | KarlKFI|work | :) |
| 17:19.23 | KarlKFI|work | what, you expected me to argue with logic? |
| 17:19.36 | KarlKFI|work | that would be like measuring with the metric system.... FAIL |
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| 17:22.36 | Lunessa | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20100512 - Project Fourth Panel? Welcome to my lost readership. |
| 17:23.07 | zenzelezz | you're months (years?) late on that |
| 17:23.28 | alestane | Project Fourth Panel? |
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| 17:23.36 | Lunessa | It's blog thing at the end. |
| 17:23.38 | Ackis | someone just complained that the items listed here: http://www.wowwiki.com/Enchantments_by_slot#Shoulders aren't in Ackis Recipe List |
| 17:24.24 | Lunessa | Bah, I'm a sucker. |
| 17:24.47 | Lopeppeppy | Are inscriptions normally listed in ARL? |
| 17:25.51 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: recipes you learn that you can create stuff is listed... not stuff that you buy from a vendor |
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| 17:27.01 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, wasn't seeing the difference right at first. If I'd read down to Zandalar I mgiht have figured itout. |
| 17:27.02 | Lunessa | Ackis: Idiots are every where |
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| 17:30.08 | Ackis | 1.5 weeks until I move to a floor that a) has a window and b) is high enough that I can contemplate throwing myself out it |
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| 17:30.23 | Jamash | make sure you have slow fall on |
| 17:30.27 | kd3 | hm |
| 17:30.35 | kd3 | self-imposed defenestration? |
| 17:30.42 | Lopeppeppy | All the rage these days. |
| 17:31.16 | Ackis | I had to google defenestration |
| 17:31.24 | Ackis | you made me learn something today kd3 |
| 17:31.28 | kd3 | whee |
| 17:32.52 | alestane | Throwing someone or something out of a window. |
| 17:34.15 | Jamash | like The Defenestration of Prague |
| 17:37.52 | alestane | Another great obscure form of assault...vitriolage. |
| 17:38.26 | nevcairiel | acid throwing? |
| 17:38.53 | alestane | Typically, the throwing of sulfuric acid with intent to disfigure. |
| 17:39.11 | KarlKFI|work | phantom making |
| 17:41.03 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, acid tossing is so post-victorian |
| 17:41.04 | Thunder_Child | "Superior-quality items that require more materials than other recipes in the same skill range provide multiple skill-ups. For example, if a recipe takes three times the reagents, it will give you three skill-ups." well thats rather nice |
| 17:41.09 | Jamash | yes |
| 17:41.52 | Lopeppeppy | sexy. |
| 17:42.24 | alestane | Makes people significantly more likely to produce blue items while power-leveling skills. |
| 17:42.59 | Thunder_Child | "New Mysterious Potion created with common materials restores health and mana in a massively random range, as well as sometimes granting the benefit of another potion. The health and mana range is from 1-20,000 and is able to crit." heh, that one will be amusing |
| 17:43.29 | Jamash | that seems kind of silly |
| 17:43.37 | Thunder_Child | though i am not sure how a potion 'crits' |
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| 17:44.09 | Lopeppeppy | fun times! |
| 17:44.18 | Lunessa | Must. Use. This. http://ihasahotdog.com/2010/05/11/funny-dog-pictures-gawlee/ |
| 17:44.44 | Jamash | that looks a lot like my dog Nigel |
| 17:44.45 | Lopeppeppy | Not a good pick up line, Lunessa. I would not accept it. |
| 17:45.11 | Lunessa | *sandface* |
| 17:45.32 | Thunder_Child | "An enchanter vanity pet is being added." i think thats going to be a bad idea |
| 17:46.21 | nevcairiel | New unique material used by nearly all high-level recipes will be created by alchemists on a one-day cooldown. |
| 17:46.29 | nevcairiel | finally, i can make money with this |
| 17:46.36 | Thunder_Child | amd there are 5 of them |
| 17:47.39 | nevcairiel | also i like those high-random potions that basically get more reliable depending on your alchemy skill |
| 17:48.21 | Adys | Fisker is gonna like this one |
| 17:48.32 | Lunessa | http://graphjam.com/2010/05/11/funny-graphs-majoring-physics/ |
| 17:48.37 | Adys | I tried to unmount a drive on my GNOME laptop |
| 17:48.54 | Adys | and apparently, this is nautilus' idea of "requires root privileges": http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/unstoppable.png |
| 17:49.33 | Dagmar | You likely had a shell open and using that as the working directory |
| 17:49.36 | Arrowmaster | how did the drive get mounted? |
| 17:49.42 | Adys | Arrowmaster: usb |
| 17:49.47 | Adys | auto-mounted by nautilus |
| 17:49.55 | Arrowmaster | nautilus doesnt automount |
| 17:49.59 | Thunder_Child | "Some gem colors have changed! Hit is now blue. Mastery and Dodge are yellow. Intellect is now red." |
| 17:50.00 | Arrowmaster | other parts of gnome do |
| 17:50.06 | Thunder_Child | me likey |
| 17:50.12 | Adys | Arrowmaster: by automount i meant automount on browse |
| 17:50.17 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Actually, Gnome does, but depending on your distro packager, it's probably disabled |
| 17:50.25 | Dagmar | Adys: You kinda *have* to mount to browse |
| 17:50.37 | davis | hello |
| 17:50.38 | Dagmar | I know we sure as hell disabled automount in Dropline |
| 17:50.42 | Adys | Dagmar: nautilus lists the drive even if it's not mounted |
| 17:50.51 | Dagmar | I kinda bitched at the people who wrote that bit of code, too |
| 17:50.51 | Adys | as soon as you query it it automounts |
| 17:51.02 | nevcairiel | hal-based automounting is kinda useful, hate to get a shell up everytime i connect a usb thumb drive |
| 17:51.18 | Dagmar | Adys: Yes, Nautilius will always know the drive is there as soon as the kernel does |
| 17:51.19 | nevcairiel | but i dont use gnome, so no idea how they broke it |
| 17:51.45 | Arrowmaster | Adys: your using ubuntu arent you? |
| 17:51.48 | Dagmar | Adys: ...but unless someone codes filesystem drivers into Nautilus directly (insanely bad idea) it's always going to have to mount the filesystem to find out what's in it |
| 17:51.54 | Adys | kubuntu yes |
| 17:52.00 | Adys | Dagmar: i know |
| 17:52.15 | nevcairiel | you use kubuntu and have gnome on it? |
| 17:52.34 | nevcairiel | why not plain ubuntu then? :d |
| 17:52.38 | Dagmar | Either way, that error dialog is generally the result of a process having hte mounted fs as it's cwd (which Nautilus on it's own doesn't do)( |
| 17:52.39 | Adys | nevcairiel: no. that was my laptop, but i do have a bunch of gnome parts on here |
| 17:52.49 | Adys | nevcairiel: i prefer kde, but a lot of gnome apps are just better |
| 17:53.00 | Dagmar | Adys: I liked KDE okay until the last one |
| 17:53.00 | Adys | gnome-screenshot, eog, nautilus, synaptic |
| 17:53.05 | Adys | that alone depends on half of gnome |
| 17:53.08 | Dagmar | That launcher menu change... ugh |
| 17:53.33 | nevcairiel | i really like the win7 launcher, wish it wouldnt be soo much work to just steal it and redo it :p |
| 17:53.43 | Adys | Dagmar: tbh sometimes i'd just get rid of most of my desktop |
| 17:53.54 | Adys | get a launcher, my browser and a terminal I'm set |
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| 17:54.04 | Dagmar | You can ditch quite a bit, actually |
| 17:54.11 | Dagmar | eog's dependencies aren't that bad |
| 17:54.18 | Adys | the only desktop feature i'd actually want is a desktop folder and OH LOOKIT plasma doesnt have it |
| 17:54.25 | Adys | Dagmar: i tried to compile it |
| 17:54.26 | Adys | it was hell |
| 17:54.29 | Adys | not doing that again |
| 17:54.44 | nevcairiel | eh, plasma used to allow you to have icons on your desktop |
| 17:54.47 | Dagmar | AdyS: Oh, dude. Spekaing as someone who has built that whole damn thing at least 100 times, I don't blame you |
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| 17:54.52 | Dagmar | It's a LOT of tiny little pieces |
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| 17:55.15 | Adys | i also wish they'd put gnome-screenshot in its own repo or some shit |
| 17:55.21 | Adys | and not integrate it to gnome-utils |
| 17:55.33 | Adys | why can't a guy have simple apps, really. |
| 17:55.42 | Dagmar | You can, and it is |
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| 17:55.48 | Adys | it is? |
| 17:55.55 | nevcairiel | because you're running a binary distro and they have to compile it with some settings |
| 17:55.56 | Dagmar | ...but keep in mind what you've got it tied into there |
| 17:56.23 | Adys | what do you mean? |
| 17:56.36 | Dagmar | it's tied into the panel IIRC, which is in turn tied into just about every damn thing else just becasue of all the applets |
| 17:56.46 | Adys | ah yeah |
| 17:56.50 | Adys | thats fucking terrible :( |
| 17:57.04 | Dagmar | Adys: your packaging system can't make the distinction between a dependency that's required and one that's only semi-optional, because the goddamn users will send in bug reports |
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| 17:57.18 | Adys | yeah but thats no issue for me |
| 17:57.27 | Dagmar | If you start poking at the binaries with readelf (NOT ldd!) you can get a better idea of what actually ties into what |
| 17:57.42 | Jamash | I use xfce whenever possible |
| 17:57.50 | Adys | when that happens, I tend to just grab it and compile it |
| 17:57.57 | Dagmar | ldd will (Unless I missed a switch) show you every lib something depends on, and every lib THOSE depend on |
| 17:57.58 | Adys | like the TEN FUCKING THOUSAND VLC DEPENDENCIES |
| 17:58.01 | Adys | man |
| 17:58.06 | Adys | i just want to read avis. |
| 17:58.16 | nevcairiel | use mplayer already |
| 17:58.19 | Dagmar | readelf will show you *just* the things that one binary actually needs |
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| 17:58.55 | Dagmar | What data winds up in the package manager is even more all-encompassing than what you see with ldd becasue it's going to only be able to list every dep for every binary in the package |
| 17:59.03 | Adys | i dont like mplayer |
| 17:59.14 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/configure-vlc.txt |
| 17:59.19 | Adys | thats my vlc config line |
| 17:59.48 | Dagmar | Do you even have a mac? |
| 18:00.23 | Dagmar | I just noticed the bonjour bit in htere |
| 18:00.34 | Adys | it builds bonjour support on linux too |
| 18:00.49 | Adys | as for portaudio, it doesnt actually do anything about it but it silences a warning |
| 18:00.55 | Adys | er |
| 18:00.56 | Adys | coreaudi |
| 18:01.02 | Adys | no portaudio |
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| 18:01.51 | Adys | Kalroth: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/unstoppable.png ! |
| 18:01.54 | Dagmar | Yes, but if you don't even have a mac you can really do without bonjour |
| 18:01.55 | Dagmar | heh |
| 18:01.58 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: .deb's can too distinguish between required dependencies and semi-optional ones, now i cant say that the ubuntu devs are smart enough to be able to do it correctly though but the debian developers do |
| 18:02.06 | nevcairiel | isnt bonjour compatible with avahi? both being mDNS? |
| 18:02.16 | Adys | Dagmar: bonjour is disabled on that config |
| 18:02.18 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 18:02.23 | Kalroth | Adys: It's a force! |
| 18:02.37 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: It's ubuntu users that are the issue |
| 18:02.45 | Adys | Arrowmaster: a bunch of packages are on recommends rather than requires on ubuntu |
| 18:02.46 | Arrowmaster | like Adys |
| 18:02.47 | Dagmar | Adys: Doh sorry I misread |
| 18:02.48 | Adys | but really |
| 18:02.49 | nevcairiel | ubuntu is the windows of linux, its made for dumb people |
| 18:02.52 | Adys | its fucking annoying sometimes |
| 18:03.07 | nevcairiel | rather add one more dep, then have users complain because x function is missing |
| 18:03.13 | Adys | Arrowmaster: btw, how do i make apt-get default to without-recommends? |
| 18:03.15 | Dagmar | Even the supposedly "smart" Slackware users tend to report "bugs" first and then think later when it comes to dependencies tho |
| 18:03.22 | Adys | because its pissing me off having to use aptitude every time |
| 18:03.36 | Adys | its simple shit |
| 18:03.38 | Arrowmaster | Adys: read man apt_preferences |
| 18:03.44 | Adys | thanks |
| 18:03.55 | Adys | its simple shit, like firefox pulling ubufox as "recommends" |
| 18:04.04 | Adys | which in turns pulls HALF OF THE DISTRO'S PACKAGES ugh |
| 18:04.08 | Jamash | yeah I turn that off too |
| 18:04.13 | Dagmar | Easily half the bug reports dropline got the last time boiled down to "I shot myself in the foot by trying a partial install without knowing what I'm doing" |
| 18:04.34 | Arrowmaster | i leave it on in debian but still always use aptitude in curses mode to see everything before installing |
| 18:05.14 | Arrowmaster | i need to submit a bug report that gettext has a recommend that needs to be removed |
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| 18:05.55 | Arrowmaster | gettext recommends autopoint which depends on cvs, and i dont want cvs on my system |
| 18:06.09 | Dagmar | Whaaaat |
| 18:06.10 | Adys | hahacvs. |
| 18:06.14 | Dagmar | Yeah, shoot that in the face |
| 18:06.22 | Adys | i saw some guy whining on wine-devel |
| 18:06.30 | Adys | because the cvs mirror of wine.git was down |
| 18:06.34 | Adys | WHO USES CVS OVER GIT |
| 18:06.34 | Dagmar | Seriously tho... gettext should have like, two deps |
| 18:06.35 | Adys | wtf |
| 18:07.00 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i cant find it in apt_preferences |
| 18:07.04 | Dagmar | cvs should in no way be a dependency of gettext |
| 18:07.11 | Dagmar | That's madnes |
| 18:07.16 | Arrowmaster | its not, its a recommend |
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| 18:07.23 | Arrowmaster | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gettext |
| 18:07.58 | Arrowmaster | Adys: sorry wrong file, man apt.conf |
| 18:08.04 | Adys | ah thanks |
| 18:08.22 | Dagmar | Someone did something effed up there |
| 18:09.04 | Dagmar | Okay that's a good example of why I like Slackware packaging |
| 18:09.34 | Dagmar | That whole confusing mess is (I think) because someone decided to break a part of gettext out into it's own package and make it dependent on what they got it from |
| 18:09.46 | Dagmar | Slackware does not do that. Generally one source tarball == one binary tarball |
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| 18:10.51 | Adys | The following NEW packages will be installed: |
| 18:10.51 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.52 | Adys | woot |
| 18:11.02 | Adys | thanks Arrowmaster |
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| 18:12.16 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i dont really like that, i prefer things like how wine was packaged for debian, although that specific example is broken right now since new versions of wine cant be packaged using the same setup so it needs fixed |
| 18:13.42 | Shirik | my head |
| 18:13.43 | Shirik | it hurts |
| 18:13.44 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mister_World_2010 |
| 18:14.31 | Arrowmaster | http://packages.debian.org/sid/wine-unstable |
| 18:15.09 | Arrowmaster | for example im currently using the winehq.org .deb of wine and since its got NAS compiled in it fucking takes forever to load the audio tab in winecfg |
| 18:15.37 | Dagmar | Shirik: Shortbus is short, yes? |
| 18:15.47 | Adys | scott needs to stop compiling nas support in |
| 18:16.52 | Fisker | kd3 you here? |
| 18:17.00 | kd3 | yes. not paying attention to the ptr atm |
| 18:17.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah the ubuntu .deb which is really what im using i guess, is supposedly built so if the needed libraries are there the feature is enabled, but since to use wine i need ia32-libs that means i have every fucking library |
| 18:18.32 | Fisker | give me your email |
| 18:18.35 | Fisker | i want to be friends with you |
| 18:19.19 | Fisker | baww |
| 18:19.29 | Fisker | battle.net is unavailable |
| 18:19.29 | durcyn | why not use wine64 |
| 18:19.32 | Fisker | but do it kd3 |
| 18:19.41 | Arrowmaster | what wine64 |
| 18:19.52 | kd3 | wine64 right now only works for 64-bit native apps |
| 18:19.59 | kd3 | wow on wow isn't quite there yet iirc |
| 18:20.10 | kd3 | grr, my copies are off in the nether |
| 18:20.14 | kd3 | but yay at realm select working |
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| 18:22.10 | Adys | kd3: they can share wineprefixes since wine-1.1.44 |
| 18:22.19 | Adys | and btw, wine-1.2 soonish (next month) |
| 18:22.35 | kd3 | ooh. nifty. now to figure out why the ptr needs native wldap32 |
| 18:22.52 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 18:22.53 | Fisker | giev |
| 18:23.00 | kd3 | nein |
| 18:23.01 | Adys | kd3: .. it does? |
| 18:23.02 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:23.08 | Fisker | Adys i wanna be friends with you then :( |
| 18:23.08 | kd3 | I can't get past login without it |
| 18:23.17 | Dagmar | kd3: Did you just yank some directory services stuff on that machine? |
| 18:23.22 | Adys | ill have a look |
| 18:23.25 | Adys | havent logged into ptr yet |
| 18:23.30 | Adys | something about patcher fucking up |
| 18:23.35 | kd3 | no. I just found a wldap32.dll somewhere on the net and put it in my ptr directory |
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| 18:23.57 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702395301&sid=1 |
| 18:24.06 | Adys | Blizzard Updater was unable to start up. |
| 18:24.06 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.10 | Adys | :/ |
| 18:24.37 | Adys | guess ill just reinstall the ptr... its not like i dont have every damn patch |
| 18:25.16 | Dagmar | kd3: I asked someone here about that last night... it's actually *normally* on an actual Windows box, particularly if you're using AD |
| 18:25.40 | Dagmar | It's used by Directory Services |
| 18:26.01 | Adys | Elementium is the new uncommon mineral found when mining in Cataclysm, and can contain gems, Volatile Fire, Volatile Water, or Volatile Earth. |
| 18:26.01 | Adys | wut. |
| 18:26.02 | kd3 | there's a native wldap32 dll getting shipped with wine. I dunno why it's not working. I'm going to be digging in to that later today since the realms are up, finally |
| 18:26.05 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: check your realid pending thingies |
| 18:26.09 | Adys | are we gonna mine EPIC ELEMENTIUM ORE. |
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| 18:26.20 | Adys | awww |
| 18:26.22 | Adys | no we're not |
| 18:26.22 | Adys | :( |
| 18:26.25 | Dagmar | Adys: ...and mine "sparkletanium" |
| 18:26.28 | Adys | dreamcrushing bastards |
| 18:26.37 | kd3 | I still want them to add 'unobtanium' |
| 18:26.51 | Dagmar | Obtanium would, of course, only be a white drop |
| 18:27.09 | Dagmar | er Obtainium, or Obtainuium if you're British |
| 18:27.17 | Adys | Engineering |
| 18:27.18 | Adys | Engineering is still being designed |
| 18:27.20 | Adys | No kidding |
| 18:27.41 | Fisker | yay Gnarfoz |
| 18:27.52 | Fisker | doesn't show you yet though Gnarfoz |
| 18:27.58 | foxlit | wowhead's localization failure is hilarious. |
| 18:28.18 | Adys | which? |
| 18:28.32 | Fisker | nice i hope apple gets fucked again |
| 18:30.18 | Fisker | lol |
| 18:30.29 | Fisker | rightclicking on your name makes the game go down to 20fps |
| 18:30.31 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: fun, I created a character on one of the US ptr realms, from my EU account |
| 18:30.40 | kd3 | fisker; macros are broken pretty badly too |
| 18:30.46 | Gnarfoz | also, I had to reloadui, the tutorials wouldn't go away |
| 18:31.01 | kd3 | s/macros/framerate killers/ |
| 18:31.36 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: http://paste.wowace.com/2026/ wtf |
| 18:31.52 | Gnarfoz | it showed me your whisper after I reloaded, but I couldn't write back |
| 18:31.55 | Gnarfoz | and the friends list is empty |
| 18:32.03 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:32.05 | Fisker | you have to relog |
| 18:32.18 | Dagmar | Did I miss something or has there been an outbreak of Stepford Children in China? |
| 18:34.27 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: bawww, it keeps breaking left and right |
| 18:34.42 | Adys | Arrowmaster: maybe you know |
| 18:34.59 | Adys | I want to hard link the entire contents of a directory into another directory |
| 18:35.01 | Adys | as in |
| 18:35.20 | Adys | if an app looks into a directory, I'd like all the files in the other directory to be readable directly |
| 18:35.37 | Adys | is this possible with some fuse voodoo or some crap? |
| 18:35.51 | Arrowmaster | not fuse but mount directly |
| 18:35.54 | Arrowmaster | called bind mounts |
| 18:36.30 | Adys | reading up |
| 18:36.31 | Gnarfoz | mount --bind ftw |
| 18:37.20 | zenzelezz | one mount to rule them all, one mount to find them. One mount to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them... |
| 18:37.57 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I'm not sure this does what I'd like to do |
| 18:38.07 | Adys | i dont want the directory, I want its contents |
| 18:38.12 | DWSR | Anyone here use uTorrent? |
| 18:38.13 | Lunessa | Princess Sparkle Horse? |
| 18:38.27 | zenzelezz | DWSR: yes |
| 18:38.28 | Adys | like if i were symlinking every file in the directory to my other directory |
| 18:39.06 | Fisker | yeah Gnarfoz |
| 18:39.11 | Fisker | i just got your broadcast |
| 18:39.17 | Fisker | which was sent by you 16 minutes ago apparently |
| 18:39.19 | DWSR | zenzelezz: How can I move /all/ of the torrents from one place to another? |
| 18:39.32 | DWSR | zenzelezz: I copied all of the actual data to another drive and I want to seed directly from there now. |
| 18:39.33 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: same :D |
| 18:39.52 | Fisker | weird just made mine |
| 18:40.12 | Arrowmaster | Adys: ln man page, 3'rd form |
| 18:40.28 | Dagmar | You don't know how to make a symlink? |
| 18:40.30 | zenzelezz | DWSR: hm... not sure, haven't done anything like that... I just have it move my completed torrents where I want them |
| 18:41.02 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Yeah, I'm going to be setting some of that stuff up. |
| 18:41.28 | DWSR | But I want uTorrent to think that my Download directory is now somewhere else, and adjust where it's seeding from accordingly. |
| 18:42.01 | DWSR | http://filesharefreak.com/2008/11/02/utorrent-move-all-your-downloaded-files-keep-seeding/ |
| 18:42.02 | DWSR | Win |
| 18:42.51 | zenzelezz | DWSR: nice find |
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| 18:43.49 | Lopeppeppy | Are there still torrent sites that work well? My favorite has recently been quite gimped, makes me a sad Peppy. |
| 18:44.13 | zenzelezz | porn trackers? |
| 18:44.20 | Lopeppeppy | :P Bad monkey. |
| 18:44.31 | durcyn | piratebay and eztv.it are about it anymore. you didn't hear it from me. |
| 18:44.32 | nevcairiel | peppy is an evil pirate :( |
| 18:44.47 | Lopeppeppy | I'm not remembering the name off the top of my head, of course... I haven't used it in weeks, most of them are very dead. |
| 18:46.39 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: lol, I now have you on my friends list twice |
| 18:46.53 | Gnarfoz | ohhhh battle.net is unvailable now :( |
| 18:47.11 | durcyn | http://store.steampowered.com/public/client/steam.dmg HEYO |
| 18:47.37 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: lol, you are friends with fisker |
| 18:48.28 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: twice! |
| 18:48.28 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: You *might* need to turn on DHT functionality |
| 18:48.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: just because you're not on that sc2 beta realid list |
| 18:48.55 | nevcairiel | i actually have sc2 beta, but i rarely play, so why bother :d |
| 18:49.15 | Gnarfoz | same here, but this way I could troll around with Fisker on the US ptrs |
| 18:49.24 | Gnarfoz | or EU ptrs, whichever, you can join either now |
| 18:50.03 | nevcairiel | I still hate how the realid shit requires you to share your full name with everyone |
| 18:50.28 | nevcairiel | not that i really care myself, i have my name in the licenses of my addons anyway |
| 18:50.36 | nevcairiel | but its the principle of the thing |
| 18:51.00 | zenzelezz | it would've been nice if it was a choice |
| 18:51.01 | olafski | I thought you had to share the email address? |
| 18:51.05 | olafski | real name is kind of bad |
| 18:51.07 | DWSR | olafski: You do. |
| 18:51.11 | Lopeppeppy | Dagmar, I don't think it's functionality on my end, when they have big notices on their home page of being shut down by lawsuits. :) |
| 18:51.16 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: my real name is Adolf Mussolini, realid will suck for me |
| 18:51.18 | DWSR | olafski: When you become a RealID friend, they can see your real name. |
| 18:51.37 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: apropos said list: you're still on there under "needs a key", is that still current? |
| 18:52.16 | kd3 | wahaha... the wow magazine is using raid maps from atlas |
| 18:52.20 | Lunessa | Kalroth: Don't use Real ID then. |
| 18:52.37 | Kalroth | Lunessa: But I really want to! |
| 18:52.48 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: huh? |
| 18:53.04 | Lunessa | Or seek a legal name change - To something like Meinparenten Schtuupedme. |
| 18:53.30 | Kalroth | haha |
| 18:53.46 | Arrowmaster | blizz has been too influenced by facebook |
| 18:53.52 | Arrowmaster | like this broadcast message shit |
| 18:53.55 | olafski | guess realid is something I'll only use with my real life friends then |
| 18:54.03 | olafski | even though most people can probably find my real name online somewhere |
| 18:54.09 | nevcairiel | i probably wont even sign up for real id |
| 18:54.19 | olafski | it's something you have to sign up for? |
| 18:54.21 | Kalroth | I'll enter Hay-Wood Jablome when asked for real name |
| 18:54.22 | olafski | I thought it was implicit |
| 18:54.25 | Cide- | it's not, no |
| 18:54.30 | Arrowmaster | you can find my real name with a simple whois of arrowmaster.net but i dont tell people what my name is |
| 18:54.33 | DWSR | olafski: That's sort of the point. |
| 18:54.37 | Lunessa | No, you have to choose to use it. |
| 18:54.51 | Gnarfoz | "opt-out" is done by simply never adding any RealID friends |
| 18:54.54 | olafski | lunessa: yeah but not by "signing up" I thought? more like by just becoming real-id friends |
| 18:54.58 | olafski | yeah |
| 18:55.16 | Lunessa | Exactly. |
| 18:55.36 | Arrowmaster | wonders how many people just went to find out his real name |
| 18:56.07 | olafski | I don't generally care to know the real name of people I chat with |
| 18:56.13 | DWSR | heh. |
| 18:56.19 | DWSR | I'm facebook friends with a lot of my guildies and ex-guildies. |
| 18:56.21 | olafski | but it does make it a lot easier for someone to find your address if they wanted to I guess |
| 18:56.38 | Lunessa | didn't care enough to snoop. I figure you're old enough to show the barman your own id before I buy you a whiskey. |
| 18:56.46 | DWSR | ^\ |
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| 18:57.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah dont go pasting my domain whois details in here, it does have my real address, my registrar is greedy and wants like $10 a year to hide that |
| 18:57.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i think mine's the same |
| 18:57.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i can't be arsed to care. |
| 18:57.38 | Lunessa | However, it means when RealID comes out for WoW, SC:II, D:III, - I'm only going to give it to people who have friends I also trust. |
| 18:58.02 | Arrowmaster | think im going to renew my domain for another 10 years when it gets close to november and then transfer both domains to gandi.net |
| 18:58.10 | Kalroth | What about future friends of friends? |
| 18:58.15 | Lunessa | wants to preserve his secret alts so he can play without getting bugged. |
| 18:58.32 | olafski | I wanted that too.. |
| 18:58.33 | Arrowmaster | Lunessa: yes i noticed that it also tells you the real names of your friends friends |
| 18:58.42 | olafski | but my naming scheme makes it too easy to guess whether I am playing |
| 18:58.53 | Gnarfoz | funny how having those details be correct and visible is mandatory for .de ;> |
| 18:58.55 | Lunessa | Yeah. I mentioned it to *dev who shall not be named* and he didn't respond. |
| 18:58.58 | Kalroth | olafskia, olafskib, olafskic? |
| 18:59.02 | olafski | kalroth: close |
| 18:59.06 | Kalroth | haha |
| 18:59.12 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: domain whois? |
| 18:59.20 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: yeah |
| 18:59.30 | Arrowmaster | and by law they must be hidden for austrilia |
| 18:59.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: o_0 wait, what? realid gives your info to friends-of-friends? |
| 18:59.41 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: no, where did you read that |
| 18:59.43 | Arrowmaster | NightHawkTheSane: yes, in SC2 it does |
| 18:59.47 | zenzelezz | hey mages, what's a "frozen" mob... is that an effect from one or more of your spells? |
| 18:59.54 | Lunessa | It's in the announcement. |
| 18:59.55 | Gnarfoz | hum? they said it wouldn't... |
| 18:59.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: right there ^ |
| 19:00.12 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: from yours and others, yes |
| 19:00.28 | Arrowmaster | i just says the names of my friends friends, no clue if it would say if they were playing and what character they were playing if they were on, think they were all offline at the time |
| 19:00.39 | olafski | warriorski, deathski, skimage, hunterski, skirogue, druidski, skipaladin |
| 19:00.59 | olafski | then 2 more that don't have the class name but do have ski, and only one non-ski alt |
| 19:01.15 | olafski | but you were close kalroth, those were my characters in diablo 2 |
| 19:01.45 | Kalroth | haha |
| 19:01.59 | olafski | silly 8 char limit.. I had like 3 accounts with only mules |
| 19:02.09 | Lunessa | http://us.battle.net/realid/ |
| 19:02.41 | Lunessa | In the linked FAQ "If you are using Real ID, your mutual Real ID friends, as well as their Real ID friends, will be able to see your first and last name (the name registered to the Battle.net account). You will also be able to see the first and last name of your Real ID friends and their Real ID friends. " |
| 19:03.03 | Kalroth | "both of you will automatically see all the other's characters on your friends list. You'll even see any characters your friend creates in future Blizzard games" |
| 19:03.23 | Lunessa | Very much like Facebook's "Friends" being able to see you list of Friends. |
| 19:03.38 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if blizzard is still not going to allow changing the name on an account |
| 19:03.40 | Kalroth | Yeah, I don't use Facebook (either :) |
| 19:03.55 | olafski | bet they didn't allow you to create an account, mr mussolini |
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| 19:04.19 | Kalroth | I haven't tried, I guess I should! |
| 19:05.00 | nevcairiel | Yeah all the friend stuff is really shit. They need to offer flexibility, or its really going to be evil. Friends of friends? with my real name? in a game like WoW? no thanks |
| 19:05.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. No thanks in a huge way. |
| 19:05.43 | olafski | nevcairiel: yeah and I really wonder why they would ever make such a decision |
| 19:05.53 | nevcairiel | they jumped on the facebook train |
| 19:05.53 | olafski | they clearly state that becoming realID friends is a conscious decision |
| 19:06.02 | Kalroth | Well it's not just WoW, its ALL of Blizzards current and future games. |
| 19:06.06 | nevcairiel | http://gizmodo.com/5530178/top-ten-reasons-you-should-quit-facebook |
| 19:06.10 | nevcairiel | i cant relink that too often |
| 19:06.47 | Lunessa | If you don't want people to see it, you can not use RealID |
| 19:06.55 | nevcairiel | choose a global nickname for yoru account, and show that |
| 19:06.55 | olafski | hey I just started with facebook, not gonna quit now |
| 19:06.56 | nevcairiel | fine |
| 19:06.59 | nevcairiel | but real name |
| 19:07.00 | nevcairiel | no thanks |
| 19:07.10 | Kalroth | So we're not supposed to voice our opinion because we don't like it? :) |
| 19:07.54 | Kalroth | The "just dont use it" argument is rather dumb, the service could be good, but some changes are needed. |
| 19:08.23 | Arrowmaster | if they just let us set a display name for the realid instead of using realname it would be fine |
| 19:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a paranoid female gamer, I don't want any part of any of it. |
| 19:09.09 | Kalroth | I'm not paranoid about my real name at all, but none of my Blizzard-RealID related friends knows it |
| 19:09.12 | Lunessa | I'm not happy about the friends of friends thing either, but since I can opt out, I will. |
| 19:09.18 | Arrowmaster | just wait until they find out they legally have to block out the realid feature in parental controls by default for all accounts making it optin or something |
| 19:10.07 | Lunessa | Yeah, minors logging in on Daddy's account is a possible legal issue - at least in the USA |
| 19:10.37 | Arrowmaster | its not like facebook where when you create the account you know that everybody is going to see your first and last name |
| 19:11.08 | Arrowmaster | i seriously dont think the 'if you dont like it just dont use it' thing is going to fly at all legally |
| 19:11.38 | Arrowmaster | i 100% guaranty you they WILL have to add parental controls to it |
| 19:11.46 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 19:11.51 | alestane | "Don't use it" in this case meaning "don't accept any RealID requests?" |
| 19:12.01 | olafski | yes |
| 19:12.07 | Arrowmaster | the issue is just if its locked out by default or not |
| 19:12.55 | alestane | I do sort of question the "see who all their friends are" aspect. That seems less useful. |
| 19:13.40 | Arrowmaster | since once your 13yo has accepted a realid request somebody either knows their name or your name, turning it off in parental controls isnt going to do anything about that after the fact |
| 19:14.10 | alestane | And are the requests issued in-game, or through some other service? |
| 19:14.19 | Arrowmaster | sent ingame |
| 19:14.24 | alestane | Such as through the battle.net website. |
| 19:14.30 | Arrowmaster | guessing accepted ingame too |
| 19:14.48 | Arrowmaster | i just had to put in my friends email in SC2 |
| 19:15.24 | miica | i was wondering if i make somekind "module" system |
| 19:15.46 | miica | but i was wondering which is best way to do it :o |
| 19:15.46 | Arrowmaster | hell i specifically moved my battle.net account from using my email with my real name to my email at arrowmaster.net because they made it use emails as the login id |
| 19:16.09 | mikma | wobwork: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/05/sleep_with_the_fishies_shark_s.php |
| 19:16.55 | nevcairiel | haha |
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| 19:21.42 | zenzelezz | "Three new bandages! That's right: THREE!" |
| 19:21.53 | Lopeppeppy | Bwa-ha-ha! |
| 19:22.02 | zenzelezz | "Dense Embersilk Bandage" Heals for 34,800 over 8 seconds. Requires 3 Embersilk to create." - that actually sounds slightly useful |
| 19:22.02 | nevcairiel | three, with one new type of cloth, what? |
| 19:22.12 | zenzelezz | except we already have that much HP |
| 19:22.14 | nevcairiel | 35k, eh |
| 19:22.23 | nevcairiel | well how much does one currently do? |
| 19:22.24 | nevcairiel | 8k? |
| 19:23.00 | Lunessa | In the WotLK alpha there were three kinds too, but Dense got taken out. |
| 19:23.20 | nevcairiel | just 5800 |
| 19:23.25 | nevcairiel | so 35k is really a upgrade ;) |
| 19:23.39 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing 35k is the top one |
| 19:23.51 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 19:24.09 | Cide- | I remember when bandages were actually a useful healing tool in raids |
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| 19:24.14 | Cide- | when healers couldn't heal the rogue who stood in the fire |
| 19:24.22 | nevcairiel | back in classic days |
| 19:24.31 | Shirik | I wish for classic again sometimes :( |
| 19:24.38 | nevcairiel | we actually trained first aid for that back then |
| 19:24.40 | Shirik | back when it actually took some form of skill to heal |
| 19:25.18 | nevcairiel | when you had to farm millions of mana potions and those roots out of felwood for mana regen |
| 19:26.03 | Lunessa | *hate feelwood tubers and flowers* |
| 19:26.39 | olafski | nevcairiel: 35k is better than 8 but they are increasing hp amounts across the board.. might still suck |
| 19:26.50 | nevcairiel | its 5.8k |
| 19:26.59 | nevcairiel | which is already like 1/4 of your HP |
| 19:27.12 | olafski | yeah 5.8k is quite nice while leveling imo |
| 19:27.13 | nevcairiel | if 35k is still 1/4 of your HP, it'll be too much HP :P |
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| 19:27.49 | Lopeppeppy | felwood sucks!! |
| 19:27.56 | foxlit | No such thing as too much HP |
| 19:28.04 | foxlit | lua> 35*4 |
| 19:28.04 | lua_bot | foxlit: 140 |
| 19:28.11 | zenzelezz | lua> 5800*4 |
| 19:28.11 | lua_bot | zenzelezz: 23200 |
| 19:28.13 | foxlit | Not that bad, really. |
| 19:30.20 | Gnarfoz | <+Cide-> when healers couldn't heal the rogue who stood in the fire <-- one of the really few occasions of that, that I recall, was Firemaw |
| 19:31.18 | Arrowmaster | i miss firemaw, and my pocket druid healer for it |
| 19:31.41 | Arrowmaster | i regularly went upto like 15-20 stacks of the debuff i think |
| 19:31.46 | Lopeppeppy | I never did enjoy healing those who stood in the fire. |
| 19:31.57 | Arrowmaster | there wasnt any fire to stand in on firemaw |
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| 19:32.05 | Arrowmaster | it was a LoS debuff |
| 19:32.34 | Lunessa | Who's gnome writitng all the cool code? Seerah! *played to the music from Shaft* |
| 19:32.51 | Seerah | hehe |
| 19:32.54 | Seerah | hugs Lunessa |
| 19:34.47 | Fisker | so jnwhiteh |
| 19:35.03 | Fisker | if you haven't already got a copy of portal you can get one by getting staem now |
| 19:37.55 | olafski | does free until the 24th mean "you can play it until the 24th" or "if you download it before the 24th it's free and you can play it forever"? |
| 19:42.44 | Fisker | forever |
| 19:42.48 | Fisker | also for the PC apparently |
| 19:42.49 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/freeportal/ |
| 19:43.24 | olafski | aye found it on the store.. never hurts to have another game on my list even if I don't intend to play it :) |
| 19:46.29 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck would you not intend to play portal, its fucking awesome |
| 19:46.44 | Gnarfoz | *adds to steam account for later perusal* |
| 19:46.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ^^ |
| 19:47.23 | Arrowmaster | and why wouldnt you guys already have portal? |
| 19:47.25 | olafski | I love it when people have to curse to add emphasis :) |
| 19:48.09 | Arrowmaster | i dont fucking curse to add god damn emphasis i fucking do it because i want to damnit |
| 19:48.10 | kd3 | yay; confirmation of a linux steam client |
| 19:48.15 | haste | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.22 | Arrowmaster | kd3: where? |
| 19:48.29 | kd3 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=valve_steam_announcement&num=1 |
| 19:48.36 | haste | don't link to phoronix :( |
| 19:48.50 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 19:49.07 | kd3 | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/apple/7715209/Steam-for-Mac-goes-live.html |
| 19:49.09 | haste | I just hate him for deep linking so insanely much within his site |
| 19:49.11 | kd3 | how about the telegraph? |
| 19:49.15 | olafski | anywho arrowmaster, I don't really play fps games anymore |
| 19:49.17 | haste | finding sources through phornoix is a bitch |
| 19:49.24 | zenzelezz | haste: ah |
| 19:49.26 | olafski | (though in this case I already finished portal a couple of times :P) |
| 19:49.26 | haste | of usually have to click through 5+ articles |
| 19:49.30 | haste | oh |
| 19:49.40 | haste | and the new ads cover over the article text at times |
| 19:50.01 | haste | then there's the fact that he writes about PTS and somehow manages to make every review flawed |
| 19:50.04 | Arrowmaster | now how hard is it going to be to get the games i just got from wolfire to be added to my steam account since all but one of those is on steam |
| 19:50.51 | Arrowmaster | ive bought world of goo twice now so they should atleast be able to add it to my steam account |
| 19:51.23 | Cide- | amagad |
| 19:51.26 | Cide- | gabe newell has an ipad |
| 19:51.37 | Cide- | displaying a picture of heavy weapons guy |
| 19:52.00 | Arrowmaster | isnt there also a picture of him playing wow on like a 52" plasma screen on his desk? |
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| 19:53.07 | zenzelezz | I remember a picture of John Carmack in his office, with a CRT so huge it looked like it was a monster trying to consume his desk |
| 19:53.34 | olafski | http://www.blogcdn.com/news.bigdownload.com/media/2008/08/john_carmack_working.jpg ? |
| 19:53.36 | nevcairiel | the weird thing is, such huge screens arent even useful |
| 19:53.49 | nevcairiel | thats not huge :p |
| 19:54.02 | olafski | I like my 24"s |
| 19:54.09 | olafski | though I only use one |
| 19:54.15 | olafski | the other is off during the day |
| 19:54.21 | nevcairiel | i could go for a second 24 |
| 19:54.26 | zenzelezz | might be the same monitor, I don't know. The picture I remember was somewhat from above, so you saw how deep the CRT was |
| 19:54.30 | nevcairiel | its nice when coding |
| 19:54.56 | olafski | meh two screens for coding =( |
| 19:55.02 | olafski | I like to have everything in front of me, not to the side =) |
| 19:55.23 | zenzelezz | that requires alt+tabbing |
| 19:55.27 | zenzelezz | or using tiny windows |
| 19:55.38 | nevcairiel | the editor is in front of you, on the side you have specs, mails, wikis, bug trackers, and whatnot |
| 19:55.45 | zenzelezz | aye |
| 19:55.58 | Arrowmaster | ok new game time |
| 19:56.19 | nevcairiel | I could even go for a 4:3 screen on the side, preferably same height as my 24 |
| 19:56.25 | nevcairiel | but they dont produce those anymore |
| 19:56.26 | olafski | I don't mind alt tabbing |
| 19:56.29 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: earth worm jim |
| 19:56.30 | olafski | everything I do runs maximized |
| 19:57.44 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: no i mean im switching my main monitor over to my console to play a new game, pc is now cloned over to my shitty crt |
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| 19:58.50 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: i do that from time to time to play a consle through my pc |
| 19:59.36 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:59.46 | Fisker | in b4 gabe newell is heavy weapons guy |
| 20:00.44 | Lopeppeppy | Curse you Steam, for ruining my social life. |
| 20:01.35 | Fisker | why oh why would they do that? |
| 20:02.07 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy: It wasn't Steam. It was your burning love for games. |
| 20:02.48 | Lopeppeppy | No. Steam for mac distracting about 5 of the people I hang out with on weekends, downloading them some portal of doom. |
| 20:03.04 | Torhal | Oh. THEIR love of games. Gotcha. |
| 20:03.07 | Fisker | i hate mac |
| 20:03.14 | Torhal | Steam is such an enabler. |
| 20:04.06 | Lopeppeppy | Total enabler! |
| 20:06.29 | Dashkal | Steam... oh sweet precious crack. The first platform to give me games under my impulse buy point. |
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| 20:06.56 | Dashkal | And soon I won't even have to reboot to use it (I never did get the new UI working under linux) |
| 20:06.58 | Lopeppeppy | Is very crack. |
| 20:09.45 | Dashkal | I can't wait. Wow runs nearly flawlessly under wine (memory usage seems a bit inflated), and soon my TF2 addiction. |
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| 20:11.14 | Torhal | grumbles about not being able to get Oblivion GOTY to install under Wine. |
| 20:12.38 | Kaso | Is there a good nix command line tool to parse html? I want to pull out the value of certain tags, sed seems near impossible to do multiline matching, and i dont know awk |
| 20:13.13 | durcyn | if you're not willing to learn awk, it's grep and cut time. |
| 20:13.24 | durcyn | with a healthy dose of sed |
| 20:13.53 | Kaso | well its not unwilling, its just a pain in the ass for a small task ;p |
| 20:14.26 | cog|away | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags/1732454#1732454 |
| 20:16.50 | Dagmar | Kaso: Unless one of your hobbies is rolling around in broken glass, don't even *try* to parse HTML with sed. |
| 20:17.06 | Lunessa | cog|away: LOL |
| 20:17.07 | durcyn | aw, but it's fun. |
| 20:17.09 | Dagmar | Kaso: Probably your easiest out is perl and WWW::Mechanize or XML::Simple |
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| 20:18.16 | Kaso | Dagmar lol |
| 20:18.22 | Kaso | well broken glass is fun! |
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| 20:19.33 | Thunder_Child | are talents borked? i have 2 points in starlight wrath but my wrath still has a 1.5 sec cast |
| 20:20.06 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 20:22.42 | Kaso | cog|away, that stackoverflow is awesome |
| 20:23.22 | olafski | hm the steam servers are a lot faster than I remembered |
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| 20:24.09 | Dagmar | olafski: I got the Civ IV package deal this weekend for ten bucks and it's come down at 2.0Mb/s solid |
| 20:24.43 | Dagmar | daddy *like* |
| 20:24.49 | olafski | :) |
| 20:24.55 | olafski | 7.5 minutes to download portal here |
| 20:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | civ4 for $10? >.> |
| 20:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | damn |
| 20:25.21 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, and civ3 for $2.50 |
| 20:25.31 | durcyn | some promo for 5 |
| 20:25.32 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i nabbed civ3 a while back cheaply |
| 20:25.55 | NightHawkTheSane | i was never a huge fan of 3 though *shrug* |
| 20:26.02 | durcyn | offering it for pre-purchase six months ahead of time seems a bit cheeky though |
| 20:26.03 | olafski | never tried civilization :< |
| 20:28.15 | zenzelezz | Civ2 was pwn |
| 20:28.22 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm fairly certain civilization was made with highly addictive substances. |
| 20:30.24 | Nechckn | must remember to check steam for weekend deals. |
| 20:31.17 | Lunessa | Civ, Civ.Net, Civ 2, Civ III, Civ Iv and all the gorram expansions are to me what meth is to a junkie. |
| 20:31.49 | NightHawkTheSane | yarr |
| 20:32.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont even want to -think- of how much of my life has been whiled away in those games |
| 20:32.17 | Cide- | unhealthy? |
| 20:32.26 | Cide- | s/un// |
| 20:32.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide-: quite possibly ;) |
| 20:35.17 | Nechckn | I like how you don't necessarily need your connection for 'em. Sometimes it is nice to be able to save your progress and do other things! heheh |
| 20:35.53 | olafski | I never thought portal would be 5+ GB btw.. does it include all of hl2? :s |
| 20:35.59 | Nechckn | So many games are "online only" and, especially if you want to replay one down the road, you are stuck. |
| 20:36.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Nechckn: in theory, yes, but "other things" seem to disappear while playing >.> |
| 20:36.14 | cog|away | haha... one of the memes that SO response referred to is pretty funny... http://msmvps.com/blogs/jon_skeet/archive/2009/11/02/omg-ponies-aka-humanity-epic-fail.aspx |
| 20:36.22 | NightHawkTheSane | olafski: did you download the entire orange box or something? :P |
| 20:36.57 | Nechckn | NightHawkTheSane True, true! |
| 20:37.04 | olafski | nighthawkthesane: no just the free portal fisker just linked |
| 20:37.58 | Cide- | olafski: no, but the engine |
| 20:38.07 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Not *just* Civ VI but Civ VI and all three expansions |
| 20:38.15 | Cide- | and it's not a super-small game either |
| 20:38.33 | Cide- | (dragon age is what, 15gb? out of the box) |
| 20:38.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: i guess i know what i'm doing when i get home. |
| 20:39.32 | olafski | cide-: can a game engine really account for that much space? I thought the engine part itself was generally quite small |
| 20:39.40 | Cide- | shrug |
| 20:39.43 | Cide- | no idea |
| 20:39.53 | Cide- | content usually takes up the majority of space |
| 20:39.55 | olafski | I don't really mind either way.. just thought it was going to be less |
| 20:40.17 | olafski | download finished a couple of minutes ago =) |
| 20:40.24 | NightHawkTheSane | what you dont realize, is that they actually HAVE figured out how to make a portal gun, and that 5gb does all the math for it, as you play the game. *nod* |
| 20:40.33 | olafski | I see |
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| 20:51.18 | kd3 | eesh. 815MB update to portal today? |
| 20:51.57 | zenzelezz | it's a big portal |
| 20:52.47 | Fisker | probably updated for mac kd3 |
| 20:53.34 | olafski | ah portal content.gcf is about 1GB, but it also contained source binaries, source shared materials/sounds/models |
| 20:53.53 | olafski | guess that explains why it was so big, though should I add hl2 it will hopefully share those files |
| 20:54.03 | DWSR | Any DK tanks here? |
| 20:54.33 | DWSR | L80 DK tanks. |
| 20:54.49 | alestane | Have only a little experience as a tank. |
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| 21:00.26 | NightHawkTheSane | this makes me cry.. http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0510/Alabama_candidate_denounces_lie_that_he_believes_in_evolution.html |
| 21:04.29 | alestane | An alien committee lead was reviewing the briefs about prepared by his team. "I see they've launched satellite weapons. Are they an emerging power?" He asked the submittor. |
| 21:04.53 | alestane | "I doubt it," replied the agent. "All the weapons are aimed at themselves." |
| 21:07.45 | alestane | about/about Earth* |
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| 21:12.02 | Ackis | http://kotaku.com/5537399/steam-for-mac-is-live-includes-free-copy-of-portal |
| 21:12.10 | olafski | OLD |
| 21:12.20 | Ackis | olafski: http://kotaku.com/5537399/steam-for-mac-is-live-includes-free-copy-of-portal |
| 21:12.49 | olafski | oh thanks |
| 21:12.54 | olafski | in other news I added you on steam ackis :O |
| 21:13.04 | Ackis | oh noes |
| 21:13.14 | olafski | no worries I don't really play pc games |
| 21:13.20 | Ackis | thank God! |
| 21:13.26 | Ackis | plus you're like in opposite timezone land as me |
| 21:14.55 | olafski | yeah.. even if I did play pc games I wouldn't play them online though so no worries about that either |
| 21:16.03 | Ackis | hey olafski http://kotaku.com/5537399/steam-for-mac-is-live-includes-free-copy-of-portal if you didn't know |
| 21:16.31 | olafski | oh thanks again |
| 21:16.38 | Ackis | yw |
| 21:16.41 | olafski | guess what I downloaded 5GB in 8 minutes |
| 21:16.45 | olafski | want to know which game that was? |
| 21:16.55 | Mihau | Portal. |
| 21:17.18 | olafski | that's impressive |
| 21:17.23 | olafski | you can get it for free now btw |
| 21:17.32 | Dashkal | http://hackedirl.com/2010/05/07/culture-jamming-win-warning-raptors/ |
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| 21:24.54 | Kraps | http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/05/12/airline.lost.dog/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn |
| 21:26.32 | cog|away | "Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the medics" |
| 21:27.13 | Cide- | cog|away: we need more pro-vaccine posts |
| 21:27.42 | zenzelezz | gah! Almost 26 and managed to not die so far... so the game decides to take down my battlegroup while I'm mid-fight in an area crowded by NPCs who'll all be respawning on my ass when the servers come back up... |
| 21:27.50 | Cide- | although natural selection predicts we'll see less and less anti-vaccine idiots in the years to come so the problem may sort itself out |
| 21:28.01 | cbreak | nice. Free portal with free steam for OS X. |
| 21:28.14 | cbreak | now I have three new games to pick from! |
| 21:28.34 | cbreak | and people say we only have breakout, super breakout and world of warcraft... |
| 21:30.11 | jnwhiteh | so I just bought a new backpack |
| 21:30.27 | kd3 | bigger than a 16-slotter? hax |
| 21:30.31 | jnwhiteh | srsly. |
| 21:30.37 | jnwhiteh | even has a laptop slot |
| 21:30.40 | jnwhiteh | but I had to give up the keyring. |
| 21:30.41 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 21:31.04 | jnwhiteh | http://www.timbuk2.com/tb2/products/laptop/laptop-backpacks/hal-backpack |
| 21:31.06 | Fisker | you fool jnwhiteh |
| 21:31.10 | Fisker | and not only os x cbreak |
| 21:31.15 | Fisker | also for pceeeeeee |
| 21:31.22 | haste | Fisker: YOU BROKE IT! |
| 21:31.34 | Ackis | hey Fisker http://kotaku.com/5537465/massive-world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-leak-gets-plugged |
| 21:31.43 | Ackis | in case you didn't know Fisker |
| 21:31.45 | kd3 | whee; I've got a toon on the euro ptr |
| 21:31.46 | Ackis | read that link |
| 21:33.05 | pompy | "steam servers currently busy to handle request" tryin to install portal |
| 21:33.59 | Kraps | kd3: premades still arent showing up :( |
| 21:34.08 | kd3 | neither are regular copies |
| 21:34.10 | kd3 | sighs |
| 21:35.32 | Kraps | Ackis: "As long as Blizzard doesn't confiscate his computers, I guess it's understandable. " |
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| 21:38.04 | Ackis | amusing eh? |
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| 21:39.51 | kd3 | sigh |
| 21:40.39 | Fisker | old Ackis |
| 21:40.45 | Fisker | i also got the sweet sauce on the scoop |
| 21:41.02 | Fisker | free advertising though |
| 21:41.04 | Fisker | that's nice |
| 21:41.13 | Ackis | sweet sauce? |
| 21:41.16 | Ackis | I'll give you some of that |
| 21:41.26 | Fisker | http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=811738&postcount=759 <-that guy is fucking stupid(the one i quote, not me of course) |
| 21:41.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont know, you're kind of fucking stupid too ;) |
| 21:41.51 | Fisker | naw |
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| 21:45.01 | Ackis | imo that guy you're arguing with is owning your face Fisker |
| 21:47.14 | airtonix | lol "too hard to program for" |
| 21:47.31 | airtonix | i thought it was just that the people hired to program them are monkeys and muppets |
| 21:47.50 | airtonix | and all they were taught in school was how to click next next next cancel |
| 21:48.04 | Ackis | reason #4543 why I hate americans: http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70543 |
| 21:48.10 | pnorman | Sweet, more tokens to add to ztdkp |
| 21:49.11 | olafski | Also, you may have to fight Stephen Col bear to be considered a likely able civilization. |
| 21:49.19 | olafski | :-) |
| 21:49.49 | nicoli_s | Ackis: i like canada, thats all that should matter |
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| 21:51.12 | cog|away | Cide-: http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090328/ARTICLES/903289941 I'm doomed... -_- |
| 21:51.57 | olafski | I don't mind canada.. it can stay for now |
| 21:52.38 | Fisker | Ackis how so? |
| 21:54.33 | jnwhiteh | sleeps |
| 21:54.36 | Ackis | Fisker: to me I wouldn't compare directx to steamworks, the analogy of steamworks to GFWL makes more sense, but I honestly don't know enough about steamworks to comment aside from trolling you |
| 21:55.54 | Fisker | GFWL isn't used in Civ 5 which is why it isn't mentioned to begin with |
| 21:56.01 | Ackis | I know it's not |
| 21:56.06 | Fisker | It's easy: Steamworks is an API for online features |
| 21:56.14 | Fisker | DirectX is an API for graphics, sounds, whatever |
| 21:56.17 | Ackis | aye |
| 21:56.25 | Ackis | that's why I don't see a comparison between the two |
| 21:56.25 | Fisker | Someone with sufficient skill could remove Steamworks |
| 21:56.30 | Ackis | apples & oranges to me |
| 21:56.30 | Fisker | Someone with sufficient skill could remove DirectX |
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| 21:56.45 | Fisker | Ackis then you don't understand the discussion :) |
| 21:56.57 | Fisker | The discussion is that Steamworks isn't required by Civilization to function |
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| 21:57.08 | Ackis | whereas directx is? |
| 21:57.09 | Fisker | If Steamworks isn't required by Civilization to function, then DirectX isn't either |
| 21:57.14 | Fisker | Ackis that's their claim |
| 21:57.26 | Fisker | Apparently OpenGL is unknown to them |
| 21:57.50 | cbreak | Wine can "remove" DirectX |
| 21:58.00 | cog|away | should go see the doctor |
| 21:58.03 | Fisker | Also been argued as well cbreak :) |
| 21:58.04 | Ackis | you can gut Steamworks and not replace it, but you can't easily gut DirectX and you need to replace it |
| 21:58.09 | cog|away | Fisker's making sense |
| 21:58.09 | Ackis | cog|away: Turn your head and cough |
| 21:58.14 | Fisker | Ackis that's a question of scale |
| 21:58.16 | cog|away | stabs his eyes out |
| 21:58.24 | Fisker | has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion |
| 21:58.28 | Ackis | gets the rubber glove. |
| 21:58.58 | Ackis | I also doubt that there's a 1-1 translation from DirectX to OpenGL/etc |
| 21:59.24 | Kraps | i started a tauren hunter on the ptr lololol |
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| 22:01.45 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|away: this is a dark day indeed |
| 22:02.14 | Fisker | btw work|cog wooooork |
| 22:11.29 | Ackis | Fisker: I FLAMED 4 U! |
| 22:11.54 | Fisker | yay! |
| 22:11.58 | Fisker | i was like <3 |
| 22:12.21 | Ackis | I needed clarification because I wasn't reading the entire argument |
| 22:12.22 | Fisker | he's a retard though |
| 22:12.34 | Fisker | "DirectX can't be removed from games, show me a pirated game to prove it" |
| 22:12.46 | Fisker | Me: "Why would any pirates remove DirectX?" |
| 22:12.49 | Fisker | durr |
| 22:13.12 | Ackis | I wished Civ5 was GFWL however |
| 22:13.19 | Ackis | it'd be another 1k gamerscore for me! |
| 22:13.36 | Fisker | go staem man |
| 22:13.38 | Fisker | go staaaaaaem |
| 22:13.49 | airtonix | brandWhores |
| 22:13.58 | Arrowmaster | your a gamerscore whore, i atleast dont play shitty games just for gamerscore |
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| 22:14.15 | Kraps | the pop out chat is pretty sweet |
| 22:14.39 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: only game on my profile I played for pure gamescore was Avatar, all the rest I've been interested in |
| 22:14.50 | airtonix | mhmmmmmmmmmm |
| 22:14.52 | Nechckn | Avatar, eww! |
| 22:14.55 | Nechckn | =) |
| 22:14.56 | Ackis | if I didn't care about achievemetns I wouldn't have 1k/1ked all of the games I have though |
| 22:15.07 | Ackis | Nechckn: Avatar != James Cameron Avatar |
| 22:15.13 | Arrowmaster | all those sports games, multiple years worth in just a few months? |
| 22:15.28 | Nechckn | Oh.. thought you meant the avatar movie's game. |
| 22:15.36 | Fisker | lol Ackis |
| 22:15.47 | Ackis | I just got my xbox in oct or w/e it was, I had all the NHL/madden games on the PC/Sega, I wanted to see the evolution of them |
| 22:16.03 | Cide- | sure you did |
| 22:16.09 | Cide- | including all the achievements? |
| 22:16.13 | Cide- | I call bs |
| 22:16.14 | Nechckn | Were you frightened by what you saw? |
| 22:16.17 | Ackis | in fact I just threw away about 20 sports games that I had for the PC, apparently having NHL98 on the PC is a bad thing :( |
| 22:16.27 | Dagmar | You are effing kidding me |
| 22:16.34 | Ackis | Nechckn: I liked NHL 2k6 and 2k7 over NHL 07/08 |
| 22:16.37 | Kraps | mouse scrolling still doesnt work |
| 22:16.46 | Dagmar | http://www.overmachogrande.com/index.php?/omg/do-it-yourself/embryos_messiah_033_a_moveable_cluster_design/ |
| 22:16.52 | Dagmar | *facepalm* |
| 22:16.54 | Ackis | Cide-: I already mentioned I wouldn't have 1k/1ked them if I didn't like the achievements, but I didn't buy them just for the achievements |
| 22:16.55 | kd3 | it's broken in this build. they know. it should be fixed in the next |
| 22:17.18 | Cide- | but you played through them for achievements? :P |
| 22:17.26 | Nechckn | I got 2k10 as part of a the gcn_for_haiti auction, but I do not want to open that one. |
| 22:17.43 | Kraps | kd3: not that i care, prat ftw :p |
| 22:17.56 | Ackis | Cide-: I got the 1k/1k as part of it :P some achievements just come naturally |
| 22:17.58 | kd3 | which I suspect is all kinds of broken |
| 22:18.23 | Ackis | Fisker: We've been herp and derped! |
| 22:18.26 | Kraps | it doesnt have the chat popout option ofc |
| 22:18.48 | Nechckn | I do not mind the achievement thing, so long as more folks play for a longer amount of time to get them. Helps keep the population up for online games. |
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| 22:20.01 | airtonix | Dagmar, 1) what is laser messiah 2) why am i asking 3) are you bald 4) wtf! |
| 22:20.13 | olafski | ackis: get prototype already |
| 22:20.15 | olafski | and 1000/1000 it |
| 22:20.22 | Ackis | "Do you want me to defenestrate you when you get to lucky 13?" lulz |
| 22:20.40 | kd3 | using freshly-learned words! whee! |
| 22:20.41 | Dagmar | airtonix: Clearly SOME people should be forbidden from practicing science |
| 22:20.46 | Ackis | olafski: after I beat GTA4 and like 40 other games I have |
| 22:21.19 | olafski | ouch, gl with the MP achievements in gta4 |
| 22:21.20 | Dagmar | airtonix: I was just googling for the phony "OMG LASERS PEW PEW" warning sticker and found that |
| 22:21.22 | olafski | I did about 2 matches |
| 22:21.30 | airtonix | peanut butter spread on the motherboard of your mobile phone allows it to recieve police band radio |
| 22:21.37 | olafski | the game was filled with white boys pretending to be gangsters |
| 22:21.44 | Nechckn | Lol, regarding science. Just visit one of the creation history museums for loads o' fun! |
| 22:21.50 | Ackis | olafski: it'll only take about 60 hours to get that one achievement :'( |
| 22:21.54 | Dagmar | ...and honestly, I don't know what the hell could be wrong with someone that would make them spend that much money buying a bunch of goddamn garden variety red LED lasers and think for a second it's going to help |
| 22:22.03 | olafski | ackis: which one? |
| 22:22.04 | Fisker | http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=811782&postcount=769 <-rofl, how fucking dense must you be to present that argument? |
| 22:22.08 | Dagmar | Literally NOTHING of the underlying science is correct |
| 22:22.13 | olafski | ackis: I only did the singleplayer ones in gta4.. got em all in 1 playthrough |
| 22:22.14 | Fisker | DirectX is needed (Except you could replace it with OpenGL) |
| 22:22.27 | Ackis | Olison: Most Wanted I think |
| 22:22.39 | Dagmar | Like, yay you managed to calculate how many joules of energy the device pumps into your scalp but you're STILL NOT A PLANT |
| 22:22.41 | olafski | no clue what that is :P |
| 22:22.51 | Ackis | max rank in online |
| 22:22.53 | olafski | ah |
| 22:22.54 | Dagmar | ...although perhaps this guy might be more vegetative upstairs than most |
| 22:23.10 | olafski | the one where you have to do some timed missions really quickly apparently sucks too since you can't choose who to do it with |
| 22:23.29 | Nechckn | Dagmar hahaha I actually did lol for that one "you're STILL NOT A PLANT". Nice! |
| 22:24.19 | olafski | does anyone happen to know the latex syntax for "I don't want this part chopped up into two lines"? :P |
| 22:24.25 | Dagmar | Frankly I'm shocked this whole site isn't coming from China. I *expect* quackey like that to be from there. |
| 22:25.37 | olafski | nm |
| 22:25.44 | Dagmar | er quackery |
| 22:26.23 | Kraps | whaaaaaaaat http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/12/military.restraint.medal/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn |
| 22:27.29 | olafski | the guy proposing that is a member of the former backstreet boys |
| 22:27.34 | olafski | what did you expect ;) |
| 22:27.55 | Cide- | how is it a bad idea at all? |
| 22:29.07 | Dagmar | Wlel, it is somewhat alien to the war mentality |
| 22:29.17 | airtonix | Dagmar, at first i thought it was some kind of sensory input device for a computer |
| 22:29.29 | Dagmar | Airtonix: I would be happier if it were |
| 22:30.04 | Dagmar | I really can't see how this is ever supposed to be more effective than just going to Bosley or one of the other "replanters" |
| 22:30.32 | Dagmar | Hell, 100 lasers and all the time it takes to wire them *can't* be cheaper |
| 22:30.59 | olafski | but you did it yourself instead of getting ripped off by someone else! |
| 22:31.02 | Fisker | were gonna fuck them up Ackis |
| 22:31.04 | olafski | has to be better somehow rite |
| 22:31.21 | Dagmar | olafski: Except replanting actually works |
| 22:31.47 | Dagmar | It's just not for anyone who can't stand the idea of a tattooists needle tho I guess |
| 22:32.01 | Dagmar | I mean, I don't shave around my sideburns, I *pluck* and it's not that damn painful |
| 22:32.29 | olafski | oO |
| 22:32.32 | Dagmar | I get nice clean edges on my chops tho by george |
| 22:32.37 | olafski | I don't shave at all :D |
| 22:33.01 | airtonix | i dont put any more thought into my hair other than getting it out of my face |
| 22:33.11 | Kraps | wow typo http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/24702015249/recent-in-game-fixes-may-2010-5-12/ |
| 22:33.12 | Dagmar | mutters something about hippies |
| 22:33.12 | airtonix | if it falls out then its a bonus |
| 22:33.18 | olafski | 1.5 months left of being a student.. after that I'll keep my face smooth |
| 22:33.18 | Dagmar | heh |
| 22:33.22 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=28722/bryan-landers |
| 22:34.30 | olafski | is definitely not a hippie =( |
| 22:35.11 | Shirik | Washington DC is testing out a "diagonal crosswalk" |
| 22:35.12 | Shirik | that is confusing |
| 22:35.26 | Dagmar | shirik: So people can have their choice of which way to get run over? |
| 22:35.33 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:35.45 | Fisker | i am the winner Shirik |
| 22:35.46 | Shirik | from what I can tell both directions of traffic are stopped while people walk diagonally |
| 22:36.11 | kd3 | you mean like in tokyo? |
| 22:36.34 | Dagmar | In the US, people get run over in crosswalks all the time |
| 22:36.46 | Dagmar | That's without them having to walk an extra third of the way |
| 22:36.48 | Fisker | that's sounds kinda silly Shirik |
| 22:36.49 | Fisker | then again |
| 22:36.50 | Shirik | kd3: They have them in tokyo? |
| 22:36.51 | cog|away | yeah, it's probably not a bad idea to just have everyone stop |
| 22:36.52 | Fisker | i AM the winner |
| 22:36.59 | kd3 | yes |
| 22:37.32 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 22:37.46 | kd3 | yeeeeeees? |
| 22:38.11 | Fisker | i'm awesome |
| 22:38.22 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_scramble |
| 22:38.27 | Fisker | Apparently also clueless since that games cannot be made without DirectX |
| 22:38.30 | Fisker | but apparently is |
| 22:38.41 | kd3 | no way |
| 22:38.46 | kd3 | how does wow operate on macs? |
| 22:38.50 | Nechckn | Fisker Enough of this rationality... good lord! Who are you?!?!?! |
| 22:39.00 | Dagmar | kd3: They have a native client? |
| 22:39.16 | Fisker | fucking magnets how do they work? |
| 22:39.22 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: magic. |
| 22:39.30 | Fisker | maybe i should write "fucking computers how do they work?" |
| 22:39.34 | kd3 | fisker; there's your answer. 'magic' |
| 22:39.51 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 22:40.04 | Fisker | That series of creationism movies i saw earlier sparked my trolling senses |
| 22:40.05 | kd3 | oh, Shirik, from the linked article. 'In Washington, DC. USA, diagonal crossing existed at several downtown intersections until the mid-1980's. It is being tried again on an experimental basis in May, 2010.' |
| 22:40.22 | olafski | we have that pedestrian scramble thing for people on bicycles too |
| 22:40.36 | Nechckn | Aparently those proposing the idea have never driven or walked in DC. |
| 22:40.39 | Shirik | oh really kd3 |
| 22:40.45 | Shirik | also, what linked article |
| 22:40.51 | Shirik | oh |
| 22:42.01 | nobin | shirik' |
| 22:42.07 | Shirik | nobin |
| 22:42.08 | Shirik | I'm busy |
| 22:42.08 | Shirik | gtfo |
| 22:42.17 | nobin | not nice |
| 22:42.27 | Lunessa | kd3: Wooo magicedust from Apple! ( i kid, I kid) |
| 22:44.19 | Fisker | noooo |
| 22:44.20 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/erick-tseng-leaves-google-and-android-for-facebook/ |
| 22:49.03 | Shirik | LMAO |
| 22:49.05 | Shirik | why would you do that |
| 22:49.07 | Shirik | whyyyyyyyyy |
| 22:49.18 | Shirik | must be good money |
| 22:49.29 | foxlit | World domination, Shirik. |
| 22:49.37 | foxlit | Google is far too bound by their do no evil policy? |
| 22:49.41 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:49.54 | foxlit | I still cannot log onto the PTR :/ |
| 22:51.51 | Thunder_Child | this could be interesting http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/gallery-underwear/9/ Possibly NSFW |
| 22:52.15 | Dagmar | I want ASUS to start running ads in the US like they do in asiapac |
| 22:52.23 | Dagmar | They would sell a lot more netbooks |
| 22:53.46 | Fisker | and he continues |
| 22:53.51 | Fisker | yawn |
| 22:54.50 | Adys | Cairenn: http://www.lelombrik.net/videos/31392/chatons-et-toboggan.html |
| 22:55.35 | Cairenn | awww, poor little kittens |
| 22:56.15 | Thunder_Child | someone know of an addon that alerts you when you hit the honor cap? |
| 22:56.39 | Fisker | baw? |
| 22:57.49 | sylvanaar | krka: i posted an updated plugin to the plugin site with the new Kahlua tool window |
| 23:00.06 | Fisker | Â |
| 23:00.07 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:00.11 | Fisker | why must i be so right? |
| 23:06.47 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/stats/content/ <-lol free portal |
| 23:07.59 | Dagmar | Actually, I'd say it's more likely that it's the suddent influx of Mac users |
| 23:08.43 | Fisker | actually i'd say it isn't |
| 23:08.50 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/stats/ |
| 23:09.11 | Fisker | (Though of course it's both) |
| 23:09.35 | Dagmar | What's this about a free Portal anyway |
| 23:11.29 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/freeportal/ |
| 23:11.33 | p3lim | lol @ skill-capped.com |
| 23:11.46 | p3lim | charging to show videos of people playing pvp |
| 23:11.57 | Fisker | basically something they started offerring here today with the mac release |
| 23:12.55 | p3lim | anyone know a good resource place for elemental pvp? |
| 23:13.07 | Dagmar | Ah... Well I guess I"ll try to find time to click on it to get a second copy later tonight then |
| 23:14.31 | NightHawkTheSane | has anyone actually messed with the osx version of steam yet? |
| 23:16.00 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 23:16.04 | Shirik | why must you be so wrong? |
| 23:17.35 | Kraps | p3lim: youtube |
| 23:19.08 | Kraps | what, its free with no strings attached?! |
| 23:19.16 | Kraps | and for pc too! |
| 23:19.27 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 23:19.27 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:19.44 | Kraps | what! |
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| 23:26.18 | miica | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) AngryDKP[event](self, ...); end); |
| 23:26.31 | miica | will call AngryDKP:EVENT_NAME(...) ? |
| 23:27.43 | p3lim | holy shit this vid is overedited |
| 23:27.44 | p3lim | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9VZInbUHFU |
| 23:30.11 | Thunder_Child | [Wild Pelvic Thrust of the Physician] |
| 23:33.05 | Lunessa | p3lim - At least it doesn't have Linkin Park for music. |
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| 23:34.19 | Kraps | p3lim: what do you mean its not awesome |
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| 23:38.32 | Lunessa | *sigh* Must remember not to update AddOns I've hacked. |
| 23:39.15 | Thunder_Child | dont hack them? |
| 23:39.28 | Lunessa | Fixed a bug the author left in in his new release. |
| 23:41.02 | Lunessa | Just feel really put out that I have to go fix it again is all. |
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| 23:44.00 | Kraps | Lunessa: let him/her know about it? |
| 23:48.00 | Lunessa | I already did. |
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| 23:52.20 | airtonix | any idea how i can force steam to use my ISPs content server if i use wine ? |
| 23:53.33 | airtonix | o.O nvm steam has this an option |
| 23:54.33 | Mr_Rabies | hrmmm |
| 23:56.35 | Mr_Rabies | what's a good addon for selling junk items? i.e. greys definitely, and possibly soulbound unusable items |
| 23:56.47 | Mr_Rabies | i'm so out of the loop |
| 23:57.10 | Lopeppeppy | There are tons of them, Mr_Rabies... "good" is relative. |
| 23:57.31 | Mr_Rabies | yeah i know, but searching is even less useful |
| 23:57.37 | airtonix | tekkub made one |
| 23:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | Tekkub is made of awesome, use his toys. |
| 23:57.47 | Mr_Rabies | at least i can find ones that SOME people like by asking D: |
| 23:58.00 | airtonix | use all of tekkubs addons |
| 23:58.43 | Thunder_Child | yea, i think tekkub has one |
| 23:59.37 | Thunder_Child | though i think tekkub needs to make another one that slaps you in the face when you hit the honor cap |
