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| 00:04.35 | Fisker | someone is removing the beacon from my drops |
| 00:05.00 | ZorbaTHut | it's me |
| 00:05.01 | ZorbaTHut | sorry |
| 00:05.13 | WobWork | presses the button |
| 00:05.18 | WobWork | recieves Fisker's beacon |
| 00:07.01 | Fisker | this droprate is outrageous |
| 00:13.52 | Thunder_Child | you are outrageous |
| 00:16.18 | Fisker | well i want my damn beacon |
| 00:16.30 | Gintaro | you sure you haven't done it already? |
| 00:16.42 | Fisker | yes |
| 00:20.54 | Fisker | killed well over 300 mobs now |
| 00:28.50 | Fisker | i wish whatever someone at blizzard is trying to achieve has less than 0,1% chance of achieving it |
| 00:30.42 | Corrodias | you should go kill yetis for a rod |
| 00:33.34 | Fisker | i did before they upped the droprate |
| 00:33.41 | Fisker | that was nothing compared to this |
| 00:35.37 | kd3 | 333334 |
| 00:35.41 | kd3 | sighs |
| 00:35.50 | Fisker | hacked kd3 |
| 00:36.02 | Fisker | you just mitm attacked yourself lulz |
| 00:36.42 | Fisker | if the first oox quest becomes grey now |
| 00:36.47 | Fisker | imma fuck the world up |
| 00:38.42 | Fisker | i refuse to believe this is possible |
| 00:45.18 | Fisker | so i just got a disgusting oozeling Corrodias |
| 00:45.28 | kd3 | ... |
| 00:45.29 | Fisker | can we agree on the droprates being fucked now? |
| 00:45.31 | kd3 | killu |
| 00:45.57 | Fisker | i'll trade you for a oox beacon |
| 00:48.43 | ZorbaTHut | assuming a 1% droprate, you've got a 5% chance of not getting it to drop after 300 kills. |
| 00:49.40 | Ackis | RAWR |
| 00:49.46 | Gryphon | ono i esceared of teh rawr! i need a huggle. |
| 00:49.49 | Ackis | ZorbaTHut: accept me on xbox live pl0x |
| 00:50.04 | ZorbaTHut | I don't even know how |
| 00:50.16 | Thunder_Child | press the accept button |
| 00:50.51 | ZorbaTHut | also what user did you add as a friend? 'cause my xbox life ID isn't my normal name, I can't reclaim my original one from XBL |
| 00:50.59 | Ackis | you can do it from xbox.com or your xbox |
| 00:51.26 | Ackis | http://live.xbox.com/en-CA/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=ZorbaTHutt |
| 00:51.37 | ZorbaTHut | ah, yep, that's me |
| 00:51.40 | Iriel | Speaking of XBox - I just finished Bioshock 2 |
| 00:51.46 | ZorbaTHut | I am totally not seeing any place on xbox.com to accept |
| 00:52.11 | Ackis | grats Iriel |
| 00:52.23 | Ackis | ZorbaTHut: you need to log in with your account then you're given the option under messages |
| 00:52.30 | Fisker | willing to bet something is up ZorbaTHut |
| 00:52.40 | Fisker | i've gotten a few empty corpses now |
| 00:52.44 | ZorbaTHut | You have no messages at this time. |
| 00:53.12 | Ackis | odd |
| 00:53.31 | ZorbaTHut | man do I wish it were possible to reclaim my real nickname :/ |
| 00:53.32 | Thunder_Child | is it odd that i have an xbox live account w/o having an xbox? |
| 00:53.37 | Ackis | ZorbaTHut: add CanadaAckis |
| 00:53.43 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: knowing you, not really. |
| 00:53.43 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: not at all, games for windows live! :D |
| 00:53.44 | Iriel | 8-) |
| 00:53.59 | Thunder_Child | ...thanks Iriel, i can always count on you |
| 00:54.05 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: it's a crossover? |
| 00:54.09 | Iriel | I try. |
| 00:54.20 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, apparently I have now done so |
| 00:54.22 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: same achievemetn system |
| 00:54.37 | Iriel | Hm, fun, SC2 crashes on startup. |
| 00:54.39 | Ackis | yay ZorbaTHut yer my friend now! |
| 00:54.45 | ZorbaTHut | yay :) |
| 00:54.52 | Thunder_Child | mourns for ZorbaTHut |
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| 00:58.45 | Ackis | http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=Stallion83 |
| 00:58.59 | Ackis | Stallion83 has won a total of 17,041 achievements in 591 games |
| 01:02.24 | Ackis | Iriel: have I behaved myself to add you to xbox live yet? :D |
| 01:02.49 | DWSR | T_C: Nope. |
| 01:02.50 | DWSR | I have one too. |
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| 01:08.04 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: accept mine |
| 01:08.13 | DWSR | That's what she said. |
| 01:08.35 | Arrowmaster | and that reminds me i need to finish playing bayonetta on hard, good game |
| 01:08.41 | DWSR | rofl? |
| 01:08.52 | Fisker | hahahaha |
| 01:09.29 | DWSR | ~ircquotes |
| 01:09.40 | DWSR | ~quotes |
| 01:09.44 | DWSR | Oh, fuck you purl. |
| 01:09.45 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 01:09.56 | Fisker | ~wowuiquotes |
| 01:09.57 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 01:10.05 | Fisker | fuck me i'm awesome |
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| 01:12.09 | Ackis | lol I just farted and the fiancee blamed the cat |
| 01:13.00 | Cide | Shirik is good at ninja-logging without saying good night |
| 01:13.05 | Shirik | what |
| 01:13.07 | Shirik | you said you were going |
| 01:13.11 | Shirik | I thought you already left |
| 01:13.19 | Cide | no, I leave the party when I leave |
| 01:13.26 | Cide | I said good night and you logged~ |
| 01:13.34 | Cide | lack of manners imo |
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| 01:16.04 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 01:16.16 | Sixen | rawr. |
| 01:16.27 | Fisker | hey Sixen |
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| 01:16.53 | Sixen | hiez |
| 01:19.06 | Arrowmaster | so just turned on my xbox and one of its dynamic ads was that i could renew my gold membership for only $9.99 for 3 months |
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| 01:19.48 | Arrowmaster | seemed like a shitty deal to me so i decided to check what the rates were when you renewed using a credit card on the xbox |
| 01:20.02 | Fisker | one billion dollars? |
| 01:20.15 | Arrowmaster | lua> 7.99/1, 19.99/3, 49.99/12 |
| 01:20.17 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 7.99, 6.6633333333333, 4.1658333333333 |
| 01:20.31 | Arrowmaster | or what im getting from amazon |
| 01:20.40 | Arrowmaster | lua> 39.96/12 |
| 01:20.40 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 3.33 |
| 01:22.07 | Cide | isn't $9.99/3 the same as from amazon then? |
| 01:22.16 | DWSR | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes?ids=102#quote-102 <- rofl WTF? |
| 01:22.17 | Arrowmaster | yeah but its only 3 months |
| 01:22.53 | Arrowmaster | and i doubt they will make that same offer in 3 months when mines about to expire again |
| 01:22.59 | Ackis | I don't get it DWSR |
| 01:23.22 | DWSR | Ackis: HOW? |
| 01:23.28 | DWSR | Fuck you had a deprived childhood. |
| 01:23.36 | Arrowmaster | krka, are you pondering what I'm pondering? |
| 01:23.36 | krka | Wuh, I think so, Arrowmaster, but will they let the Cranberry Dutchess stay in the Lincoln Bedroom? |
| 01:24.47 | DWSR | Ackis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_mPrhwpZ-8&feature=related |
| 01:25.51 | Ackis | oh lol |
| 01:26.24 | DWSR | krka, are you thinking what I'm thinking? |
| 01:26.25 | krka | I think so, DWSR, but shouldn't the bat boy be wearing a cape? |
| 01:26.32 | DWSR | No, he shouldn't, krka |
| 01:27.06 | DWSR | anyway |
| 01:27.13 | Fisker | funny fact |
| 01:27.26 | Ackis | ~dict derivative |
| 01:27.29 | Fisker | if you do the mountspecial (space) it's replicated immediately on both clients, but jump(also space) is not |
| 01:27.42 | DWSR | Fisker: "both clients"? |
| 01:27.48 | Fisker | yeah |
| 01:27.51 | Fisker | when multiboxing |
| 01:27.56 | Fisker | you know latency and hsit |
| 01:27.58 | Fisker | shit* |
| 01:28.24 | Fisker | just find it curious that there's a half a second of delay on jumps but not on /mountspecial |
| 01:29.19 | DWSR | heh |
| 01:32.16 | Fisker | level 51 yay |
| 01:37.06 | Shirik | http://i.imgur.com/Tlv8X.jpg |
| 01:37.11 | Shirik | DWSR: ^ not fail! |
| 01:40.49 | DWSR | Shirik: Actually, the Subway near my school does it the first way. |
| 01:40.52 | DWSR | Thus: |
| 01:40.53 | DWSR | ~failrik |
| 01:40.54 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:47.16 | Thunder_Child | Solved: Dont get cheese. |
| 01:51.52 | Shirik | no |
| 01:51.52 | Shirik | evil |
| 01:54.19 | Thunder_Child | ok, now i want to see walken as the gman http://imgur.com/gallery/QXJMm |
| 01:59.34 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Holy shit. |
| 02:00.23 | Adys | As mentioned previously, Evony has become infamous for its borderline-pornographic banner ads. Those advertisements are actually going away in the near future, because, according to Yarbrough, "What we've seen is that our return on investment on strategic ads is better... than the earlier ad campaigns, so we're shifting to that for the near term. It's not a spigot: you can't turn it off immediately, as there that are things already in the channel. As we m |
| 02:00.23 | Adys | ove forward, particularly with Age 2, we'll get away from those ads." |
| 02:01.13 | Adys | When asked about the nonexistent lover that potential players were encouraged to save, Yarbrough explained that there are quests in Age 2 that make those ads relevant |
| 02:01.34 | Thunder_Child | http://imgur.com/gallery/wJG6J |
| 02:04.48 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/04/google-boosts-open-video-by-funding-arm-theora-codec.ars |
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| 02:23.20 | Kraps | http://blog.games.com/2010/04/07/twelve-year-old-runs-up-900-debt-in-farmville/ |
| 02:24.04 | Kraps | the is why F2P games are BAD :P |
| 02:25.31 | Shirik | "When I asked him why he did it he said that they had brought out 'good stuff that I wanted'" |
| 02:26.27 | Kalroth | Kraps: no that is why giving your 12 year old a creditcard is bad |
| 02:27.14 | industrial | :') http://imgur.com/gallery/K1rdB |
| 02:27.34 | ZorbaTHut | that's why it's bad to give a creditcard to someone who doesn't comprehend money |
| 02:28.02 | industrial | at first i was like 'lol he did his hair like that cause its long to fuck with douchebags' but then I saw that the douche next to him was actually really .. being a serious douche so he must be too |
| 02:28.15 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: sounds like he stole the card |
| 02:28.46 | ZorbaTHut | if he stole his mom's credit card I feel like there's far more going wrong here than a video game |
| 02:29.41 | Adys | sure |
| 02:29.42 | Adys | but |
| 02:30.08 | Adys | its not about his parents or anything |
| 02:31.05 | Arrowmaster | i wonder what credit card company it is, since usually you would just file a complaint that something was unintentionally purchased by a minor and the company wont give a refund, and just have the credit card company do a charge back |
| 02:31.06 | Adys | http://imgur.com/gallery/LhROr i dont get it... OH wtf |
| 02:31.25 | Kraps | Fiskers GF http://www.break.com/game-trailers/game/starcraft-2/starcraft-2-beta-breakup |
| 02:31.44 | Arrowmaster | its not like anybody would fucking care if facebook was angry at you for not paying, i doubt they could even scratch a decent credit score |
| 02:32.42 | Shirik | lol Kraps |
| 02:32.56 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: your credit score goes up if facebook hates you |
| 02:35.19 | Arrowmaster | seriously its fucking virtual items, its not like a charge back fucking hurts them |
| 02:35.40 | Arrowmaster | so i dont think they could possible win if they tried to sue over it |
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| 02:36.46 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, it's arguable. I mean, they provided a service, and that service was used. it'd be like getting a refund after you watched an entire movie |
| 02:36.47 | Arrowmaster | but i swear its like nobody realizes the protections they have just by using a credit card |
| 02:37.05 | ZorbaTHut | yes, it's still roughly the same as not watching the movie, and yet, if everyone could just get their money back, it would obviously cause problems. |
| 02:37.30 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: and they have the power to take back what they provided in that service, unlike a movie |
| 02:37.32 | ZorbaTHut | I should point out that I strongly agree that zynga is basically evil and that farmville sucks, *but* these aren't obvious cleancut legal issues either. |
| 02:37.59 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, what they provided is fun. they can't take that back easily. the ingame money has been spent on things that the player enjoyed |
| 02:38.45 | Arrowmaster | fun? how? |
| 02:39.01 | Arrowmaster | your going to have to convince a judge of that first |
| 02:39.05 | Arrowmaster | good luck |
| 02:39.12 | ZorbaTHut | the player buys things, the player enjoys having those things and playing with those things, later on the player says "oh, hey, I don't like that game anymore, time to get my money back" |
| 02:39.36 | ZorbaTHut | same reason a lot of companies don't provide refunds on open video games |
| 02:39.47 | Arrowmaster | when you try to get the money back is also a big part of it |
| 02:39.58 | ZorbaTHut | yes, technically they "bought a dvd with the game on it", but in reality people beat the game and then try to return it for money. that, as well, is not a clean-cut legal issue. |
| 02:40.15 | Shirik | http://stats.grok.se/en/200911/Tiger_Woods |
| 02:40.41 | Arrowmaster | yes but stores offer either a replacement on opened defective games, or store credit |
| 02:40.41 | Kraps | Shirik: win |
| 02:40.42 | Adys | http://imgur.com/gallery/LPqH3 |
| 02:40.44 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, such a useful X axis :) |
| 02:41.10 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, usually it's only for replacement |
| 02:41.13 | Arrowmaster | facebook and zynga are just like 'we have your money now, fuck off' |
| 02:41.28 | ZorbaTHut | I imagine if her farmville credits were defective, she could get them replaced with non-defective credits. :P |
| 02:41.53 | ZorbaTHut | oh hey it's not even an X axis, it's just bars with a value of 0. not sure if that's better or worse :D |
| 02:42.32 | Arrowmaster | how about the puppy that purchased multiple items on XBL just by pressing the buttons while chewing on the controller? |
| 02:43.11 | ZorbaTHut | as long as nobody ever used the products in question, it's reasonably legally clear. |
| 02:43.52 | Arrowmaster | microsoft didnt refund that afaik, if it was me i would have done a chargeback and told MS 'i have never even started those games, remove my ability to play them' |
| 02:43.59 | ZorbaTHut | well, it's probably still not hugely legally clear, since most of these things just don't have legal precedent set. |
| 02:44.07 | ZorbaTHut | oh I'd totally do a chargeback in both cases |
| 02:44.42 | Corrodias | Microsoft would probably suspend the account, then you'd take them to small claims court for a full refund |
| 02:46.22 | Arrowmaster | no suspend the account, then a giant shit storm starts up on the web when you run off to kotaku and tell them about it, then they agree to unsuspend the account and just remove the items from your purchased list so you are unable to use them until you purchase them again |
| 02:46.48 | Corrodias | i don't think you'd get a storm going |
| 02:47.56 | Arrowmaster | the puppy purchasing some $100 of games got a big thing going except it was just over 'they wont refund it' but it wasnt enough, add a suspended account too and it would be big enough |
| 02:50.36 | Arrowmaster | right now with the MW2 map pack being stuck as the first thing on the screen when you start an xbox its like just 5 button presses to spend $15, one on the center button to turn the console on and 3 or 4 on the A button |
| 02:52.43 | Kraps | i need another mmo on the side |
| 02:53.27 | Kraps | any ideas? |
| 02:53.33 | sylvanaar | no |
| 02:54.22 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, an rts |
| 02:54.34 | sylvanaar | there you go- mix it up |
| 02:54.53 | Kraps | meh |
| 02:54.56 | sylvanaar | or an fps |
| 02:55.09 | sylvanaar | i got into playing mw2 on pc |
| 02:55.36 | sylvanaar | one of the few steam games i bought and played more than a couple times |
| 02:55.54 | Arrowmaster | i played MW2 like everyday the week they had double xp |
| 02:57.34 | Arrowmaster | but i dont think i played it as much as i have before, only got a little under one complete prestige that week, where as i got from 1 to 70 in just a week on release |
| 02:58.03 | sylvanaar | wow |
| 02:58.32 | sylvanaar | im not very good so i level really slow |
| 02:58.58 | Arrowmaster | i play hardcore hq mostly |
| 02:59.10 | Arrowmaster | lots of kills in hq so lots of xp |
| 02:59.43 | Kraps | shit, AC2! |
| 03:00.14 | sylvanaar | what is that |
| 03:00.33 | Kraps | assassin's creed 2 |
| 03:01.22 | sylvanaar | i never got into the first one, so i skipped the 2nd |
| 03:02.05 | sylvanaar | gow3 |
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| 03:03.09 | Arrowmaster | my ps3 isnt being used until a solution to Other OS is found |
| 03:03.37 | Kraps | anyone try http://store.steampowered.com/app/47700/ ? |
| 03:03.53 | ZorbaTHut | metascore's giving it 66/100 |
| 03:03.57 | sylvanaar | i saw some post about there being a bypass for it Arrowmaster i didnt read it though |
| 03:04.07 | Arrowmaster | nothing public yet |
| 03:04.14 | sylvanaar | no not public |
| 03:04.15 | sylvanaar | right |
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| 03:04.33 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: harsh for a C&C game |
| 03:04.57 | sylvanaar | i got settlers 7 |
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| 03:05.46 | sylvanaar | http://store.steampowered.com/app/48120/ |
| 03:05.50 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know about that, C&C hasn't been a top-tier series for quite a while |
| 03:06.13 | ZorbaTHut | C&C1 was amazing for its time, and then so was RA and RA2. besides those it's kind of struggled with mediocrity. |
| 03:07.22 | ZorbaTHut | I guess C&C3 was good, checking reviews, but 2 certainly wasn't anything to mention. it's basically those four games and another four or so unsuccessful games. |
| 03:10.01 | sylvanaar | steam doesnt have an mmo with a metascore 90 or more |
| 03:10.28 | Arrowmaster | there is an mmo with a metascore of 90 or more? (other than wow?) |
| 03:10.52 | ZorbaTHut | yeah I think you might have just said "steam doesn't have wow" |
| 03:12.23 | ZorbaTHut | looks like there's three MMORPGs with a metascore 90 or more |
| 03:12.29 | ZorbaTHut | of course, two of them are WoW expansion packs. |
| 03:12.35 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 03:12.42 | Arrowmaster | is the last one WoW? |
| 03:12.56 | sylvanaar | clearly |
| 03:13.36 | ZorbaTHut | technically the first one is WoW, but, yes :) |
| 03:14.03 | ZorbaTHut | DAoC's 88 though, which isn't bad. |
| 03:14.44 | ZorbaTHut | of course everquest's 85 |
| 03:14.54 | ZorbaTHut | it'd be interesting to see ratings as if these games were released today |
| 03:15.38 | Arrowmaster | i would rather have ratings with just a select list of places the ratings come from |
| 03:15.44 | sylvanaar | wow has been around for a long time - you'd think that people could have written a knock-off by now |
| 03:15.54 | ZorbaTHut | sylvanaar, they have. the problem is that blizzard hasn't. |
| 03:16.10 | Arrowmaster | go fucking look at the top rated games, the lists are fucking huge and full of 100% or 10/10s from sites nobody has ever heard of |
| 03:17.47 | ZorbaTHut | no-name games like "half-life 2", "bioshock", and "mass effect 2", which clearly don't deserve to be in the top? |
| 03:17.47 | ZorbaTHut | hey there's two games here called "civilization", what kind of a crappy name is that |
| 03:17.50 | sylvanaar | no no-name blogs |
| 03:17.52 | Arrowmaster | no games like gta4 |
| 03:18.01 | Arrowmaster | that dont deserve to be in the top |
| 03:18.25 | Arrowmaster | look at the list of reviews for gta4 |
| 03:18.59 | ZorbaTHut | there's only seven sites that gave it 100, and one of them is Gamespy |
| 03:19.06 | Kraps | Meristation, Cynamite |
| 03:19.09 | Kraps | lol |
| 03:19.22 | ZorbaTHut | Meristation, you may notice, is a Spanish site |
| 03:19.33 | ZorbaTHut | and quite a busy one at that |
| 03:19.41 | Kraps | yeah just saw |
| 03:19.47 | ZorbaTHut | Cynamite is German |
| 03:20.18 | sylvanaar | man i played AoC again recently and they were down to like 2 servers |
| 03:20.29 | ZorbaTHut | Metacritic is generally pretty good about only picking up reputable review sites. |
| 03:20.42 | ZorbaTHut | especially on major, heavily-reviewed games. |
| 03:21.10 | Arrowmaster | what platform were you looking at? |
| 03:21.11 | Arrowmaster | http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/grandtheftauto4 |
| 03:21.39 | Kraps | pc |
| 03:21.59 | Arrowmaster | The Onion gave it a 100 |
| 03:22.31 | Kraps | holy |
| 03:22.33 | Kraps | crap |
| 03:22.35 | Kraps | http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/prisonbreaktheconspiracy |
| 03:23.36 | ZorbaTHut | http://apps.metacritic.com/search/process?ty=3&ts=&tfs=game_all&sb=4&release_date_s=&release_date_e=&metascore_s=1&metascore_e=&x=19&y=15 the worst games |
| 03:24.00 | ZorbaTHut | (big rigs racing is one of the notoriously worst games in history) |
| 03:24.06 | Arrowmaster | in its defense, yaris was free |
| 03:24.23 | Kraps | Big Rigs is legendary |
| 03:24.27 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, I don't think that's much of a defense |
| 03:24.35 | ZorbaTHut | *I've* made better games and given them out for free. |
| 03:25.11 | Arrowmaster | at the time there were no free games on the 360 |
| 03:25.25 | Kraps | http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/bigrigsotrr/video/6086530/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing-video-review?tag=summary%3Bwatch-review |
| 03:27.41 | Arrowmaster | http://www.metacritic.com/games/xbox360/scores/ wow Rez HD at 30th, yet its likely the least know about game in the top 100 |
| 03:31.08 | sylvanaar | where is wc2 |
| 03:31.25 | Arrowmaster | wc2? |
| 03:31.34 | Arrowmaster | thats 360 games |
| 03:31.54 | sylvanaar | no i mean warcraft 2 |
| 03:32.06 | sylvanaar | its not even in the list |
| 03:32.21 | Arrowmaster | thats 360 games, not pc games |
| 03:32.29 | sylvanaar | im looking at pc games |
| 03:33.12 | Kraps | sylvanaar: i dont think they go back that far |
| 03:33.21 | sylvanaar | they do |
| 03:34.01 | sylvanaar | http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/dayofthetentacle |
| 03:35.08 | sylvanaar | wc2 came out in like 1995 or so |
| 03:35.46 | Kraps | Pan's Labyrinth got 98 |
| 03:35.55 | sylvanaar | the movie? |
| 03:36.07 | sylvanaar | what a boring movie |
| 03:37.43 | sylvanaar | lol http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/biodome |
| 03:38.36 | Arrowmaster | wtf |
| 03:38.38 | sylvanaar | honestly i liked biodome more than pans lab |
| 03:38.40 | Arrowmaster | that movie was great |
| 03:38.49 | WobWork | I liked Pans Lab |
| 03:39.05 | WobWork | It has suitable levels of Guilliarmo creepy |
| 03:39.25 | sylvanaar | i thought it was just really slow |
| 03:39.48 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 03:39.49 | Arrowmaster | the |
| 03:39.50 | Arrowmaster | fuck |
| 03:39.55 | Arrowmaster | http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/boondocksaints2 |
| 03:40.12 | Arrowmaster | again |
| 03:40.16 | Arrowmaster | WHAT |
| 03:40.17 | Arrowmaster | THE |
| 03:40.18 | Arrowmaster | FUCK |
| 03:40.21 | Arrowmaster | http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/boondocksaints |
| 03:40.51 | sylvanaar | never seen 'em |
| 03:40.56 | Arrowmaster | ........ |
| 03:41.19 | Zyn | I was told Boondock Saints II is supreme terribad compared to the first :< |
| 03:41.22 | Arrowmaster | i went though hell to find an unrated collectors edition of the first |
| 03:41.43 | Arrowmaster | Zyn: wasnt as good but i wouldnt say terribad |
| 03:42.31 | Arrowmaster | applying the usual of how much worse squeals are to the originals its about average |
| 03:42.36 | sylvanaar | spirited away is #9, that was an awesome movie |
| 03:43.30 | Arrowmaster | i would probably agree with this one http://www.metacritic.com/video/titles/ninjaassassin |
| 03:43.32 | ZorbaTHut | I think Boondock Saints is pretty damn good, but I have to admit I only enjoy it because of its extraordinarily dry ambiguity. I've never been sure if that was intentional or not. |
| 03:43.34 | sylvanaar | 9.3 user score |
| 03:44.30 | Arrowmaster | Boondock Saints is a cult classic, critics hate it but people love it |
| 03:44.40 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: i heard it was just ninjas flipping shit, which i might want to see :D |
| 03:45.16 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: its mostly just ninjas doing ninja shit, story is a little dry |
| 03:45.32 | Kraps | exactly |
| 03:47.19 | sylvanaar | tv looks right - there is nothing good on |
| 03:47.33 | sylvanaar | except the pacific, and i got too far behind on it |
| 03:48.24 | Kraps | what episode are they on? |
| 03:48.58 | sylvanaar | idk |
| 03:49.40 | sylvanaar | 5 |
| 03:49.52 | Arrowmaster | do they not do tv like everything else? |
| 03:50.13 | Arrowmaster | i cant fucking get a tv list |
| 03:53.33 | sylvanaar | does bugsack always dump out _G |
| 03:54.23 | sylvanaar | or does it only do it when you have _G as a local |
| 03:54.32 | Arrowmaster | have _G as a local |
| 03:54.36 | Arrowmaster | im guessing |
| 03:54.53 | Arrowmaster | does the builtin one do the same? |
| 03:55.31 | sylvanaar | i'd assume so |
| 03:57.10 | Arrowmaster | http://features.metacritic.com/features/2009/the-best-movies-of-the-decade/2/#listhorror |
| 03:57.14 | Arrowmaster | holy shit |
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| 03:57.35 | Arrowmaster | i didnt think anybody else knew about that one at #1, it was a fucking great movie |
| 03:58.09 | Jerub | i saw young frankenstein for the first time last night |
| 03:58.45 | Arrowmaster | http://features.metacritic.com/features/2009/the-best-movies-of-the-decade/2/#listgames |
| 03:58.49 | Arrowmaster | WHEN WILL THEY LEARN! |
| 03:59.10 | sylvanaar | YF is hysterical |
| 03:59.28 | Arrowmaster | wait where is ff7 on that list |
| 03:59.45 | WobWork | hehehe |
| 03:59.47 | sylvanaar | lets see how PoP does at the cinema |
| 03:59.51 | WobWork | Note |
| 03:59.54 | WobWork | it's the -best reviewed- |
| 03:59.58 | WobWork | so it's all relative =P |
| 04:00.54 | sylvanaar | i want to sort by the user scor |
| 04:00.57 | sylvanaar | you cant |
| 04:01.05 | WobWork | I also like how 3 of the top 4 Action movies are the Chinese ones =) |
| 04:01.12 | Arrowmaster | final fantasy 7 advant children doesnt even have a metacritic page |
| 04:03.15 | sylvanaar | i think i liked one of the resident evil movies |
| 04:03.59 | WobWork | sylvanaar: that memorable, eh? =) |
| 04:04.08 | sylvanaar | yep |
| 04:04.42 | Arrowmaster | http://apps.metacritic.com/search/process?ts=Uwe+Boll&tfs=movie_all |
| 04:04.46 | sylvanaar | metacritic doesnt have alot of middle ground |
| 04:04.55 | Arrowmaster | one of those made it onto the worst 50 films of the decade |
| 04:05.06 | Adys | Our product both have windows version and QT version, the windows version has more functions. |
| 04:05.07 | Adys | we MUST move all of function to Linux OS. |
| 04:05.07 | Adys | The windows version has already move to linux currently, some of code has been rewritten. Here comes the questions, as we know ,both wine and qt choose X11 as its windows implemention, is there any way to implement QWindow or QWidget using MFC ? |
| 04:05.20 | Adys | Someone explain me what this guy wants, gives me a headache. |
| 04:06.13 | Arrowmaster | an answer to a stupid question |
| 04:07.42 | sylvanaar | it really is a stupid question |
| 04:10.02 | sylvanaar | tell him to ask on stackoverflow |
| 04:11.33 | sylvanaar | i have noticed lately that there arent as many people answering on S/O - you think its has peaked |
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| 04:26.35 | Adys | http://imgur.com/gallery/eywUo |
| 04:26.42 | Adys | (nsfw, text only) |
| 04:28.01 | sylvanaar | thanks, that finally cleared my head up |
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| 04:54.09 | Kraps | http://www.marcofolio.net/imagedump/top_40_demotivational_posters.html |
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| 05:22.24 | zenzelezz | "What this means is that VCR owners are now forced to pay for Comcast's $20/month DVR service or else start their recordings manually. For us techies there might be a way around this, but ordinary VCR enthusiasts and owners of other recorders are left in the dust." - ... people use VCRs still? |
| 05:26.23 | Jerub | what's even more hilarious is a) VHS casettes are probably 10-20$ each, and b) a vcr is probably 3-400$ for one worth using |
| 05:32.30 | Mr_Rabies | i would just buy copies of the matrix on vhs and save over it |
| 05:38.03 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, about $2 per cassette, actually |
| 05:39.36 | Jerub | wow, cool. |
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| 05:49.55 | Adys | Jerub: http://imgur.com/gallery/RKLHR |
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| 05:51.20 | haste | wth is.. ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD! |
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| 05:59.15 | WobWork | *clap clap* |
| 05:59.28 | krka | that's a pretty funALL HAIL HYPNOTOAD |
| 06:01.57 | Cairenn|afk | omg it's aALL HAIL HYPNOTOAD |
| 06:02.12 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn|afk -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! | Please keep jnwhitehead in your thoughts that his surgery goes well. || All glory to the Hypnotoad! |
| 06:03.57 | Thunder_Child | http://imgur.com/gallery/MTuzC |
| 06:04.21 | Cairenn|afk | hypnotoad is better |
| 06:04.50 | Thunder_Child | you only say that because it's hy[notoad |
| 06:05.19 | Cairenn|afk | nods mechanically |
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| 06:28.09 | Shirik | oh dear god this is shit |
| 06:28.27 | krka | looking at c++ code again? |
| 06:28.40 | Shirik | Someone launched a search engine they market as the "robotically generated encyclopedia" which searches the web, compiles all the search results removing duplicates, and produces a page for you to view |
| 06:29.11 | Shirik | I searched for "Avery Coonley School" |
| 06:29.23 | Shirik | the first paragraph: Temple-Wood, an eighth grader at Avery Coonley School in Downers Grove, is making her first appearance. Eleven of the elementary schools, including using purchased (between 1908,) and Indian Trail Schools and two of the middle schools, are part of Downers Grove Grade School District 58. |
| 06:29.47 | Shirik | By the third paragraph it finally said something useful: The Avery Coonley School An independent, not-for-profit, non-denominational school. [1] |
| 06:29.54 | Shirik | but it obviously doesn't know english |
| 06:30.20 | Shirik | hahahaha, someone says "It's like Wikipedia read by Mark V. Shaney." |
| 06:31.18 | WobWork | who? |
| 06:31.37 | Shirik | ~wiki Mark V Shaney |
| 06:32.03 | Jerub | what i love is how people are making 'publishers' who release 'books' on the kindle |
| 06:32.10 | Jerub | which are basically compilations of bullshit from wikipedia. |
| 06:32.34 | Jerub | so people buy these 'books' and the publishers run off with the cash. |
| 06:32.43 | Shirik | Jerub: Amusingly, Wikipedia has books now |
| 06:32.58 | Shirik | there's a "book" feature in Wikipedia, I'm actually working on one right now |
| 06:33.12 | Shirik | basically it's just a structured sequence of articles that's easy to send to PDF, etc. |
| 06:33.19 | Jerub | i want one of the offline wikipedia devices. |
| 06:33.28 | Shirik | but like, ex., http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Cat |
| 06:33.50 | zenzio | they could've used a better cover picture |
| 06:34.18 | Shirik | .. |
| 06:35.40 | Jerub | Shirik: that's actually kinda cool. |
| 06:35.43 | Jerub | uploads to his amazon stop |
| 06:35.44 | Jerub | er store |
| 06:36.24 | Jerub | Shirik: the typesetting could use a doctor. things like sidebars aren't sidebars. |
| 06:36.30 | Shirik | it's very new |
| 06:36.44 | Shirik | we still don't even have policies in for deletion of nonsensical books, etc. |
| 06:36.51 | Shirik | actually I think we just finalized them |
| 06:36.55 | Shirik | but like that's how new they are |
| 06:38.51 | Jerub | Shirik: what's it using to actually generate the pdfs? |
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| 06:39.10 | Shirik | actually no idea |
| 06:39.24 | Jerub | Shirik: can you look it up on wikipedia for me? |
| 06:39.45 | Jerub | dogs beat cats. 13mb pdf vs. 10mb |
| 06:41.02 | Shirik | interestingly, Wikipedia's article on Wikipedia doesn't talk about its "book" feature |
| 06:41.08 | Shirik | I guess there's no reliable sources for it yet |
| 06:41.10 | Shirik | which is quite ironic |
| 06:41.46 | zenzio | don't suppose they hide the generator in some sort of metadata in the PDF? |
| 06:42.05 | Jerub | *tries this with simple wikipedia* |
| 06:42.38 | Shirik | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Collection |
| 06:42.47 | Shirik | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PDF_Writer |
| 06:42.47 | Jerub | Shirik: this is awesome |
| 06:43.02 | Shirik | uses some python library: mwlib.rl is a python library for writing pdf documents from MediaWiki articles which were parsed by the mwlib library. |
| 06:43.35 | Shirik | The PDF Writer uses the Python Reportlab libraries to generate PDF based on a DOM derived from parsing mediawiki-markup using the mwlib parser. The Collection Extension can be used to select and manage articles that shall constitute the resulting PDF. |
| 06:48.22 | Jerub | oh, it's reportlab |
| 06:48.26 | Jerub | yeah, makes sense. |
| 06:48.38 | Jerub | I can put some elbow grease in if you think it'd be helpful. |
| 06:48.40 | Jerub | i've used it before |
| 06:48.56 | Shirik | hm? |
| 06:49.30 | Jerub | Shirik: i've hacked on reportlab for various things inhouse here. |
| 06:49.35 | Jerub | we generate user docs with it. |
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| 06:50.28 | Shirik | I'm just confused what you mean by elbow grease |
| 06:50.37 | Jerub | Shirik: uh, 'hard work' |
| 06:50.42 | Jerub | Shirik: making it look nice. |
| 06:51.16 | Shirik | I have no idea how :P |
| 06:52.42 | Jerub | Shirik: i'll look at it later if it doesn't improve. |
| 06:58.51 | Thunder_Child | actually elbow grease is a class 22 synthetic lubricant. |
| 06:58.57 | Jerub | Shirik: lol, i just got changes reverted because i made a book on simple wikipedia. |
| 06:59.06 | Shirik | you are bad |
| 07:00.21 | Jerub | Shirik: you love me anyway |
| 07:00.38 | Shirik | :) |
| 07:00.44 | Shirik | I don't really care much for simple WP anyway |
| 07:17.04 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: any relation to the mass amounts of books showing up on amazon.com that are nothing but direct rips of wikipedia? |
| 07:17.50 | Shirik | duno |
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| 07:27.43 | Shirik | !quote PRIVMSG #wowuidev :Hello, world |
| 07:27.44 | batbot | Shirik, privmsg has not said anything with your given pattern. |
| 07:27.44 | EDI | Hello, world |
| 07:27.56 | EDI | Test |
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| 07:40.29 | Shirik | !!! |
| 07:40.30 | Shirik | Iriel |
| 07:40.42 | Shirik | UPS: Rescheduled delivery date: April 12, 2010 |
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| 07:42.55 | Trela | Shirik: What for? |
| 07:43.22 | Shirik | a lens I bought |
| 07:43.27 | Trela | :O |
| 07:44.36 | Corrodias | to take pictures of your mother with |
| 07:45.19 | Trela | So Shirik is the red spy? |
| 07:53.20 | WobWork | hehe |
| 07:53.33 | WobWork | jnwhiteh is totally liveblogging his experiences =) |
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| 08:43.14 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:43.16 | Fisker | i told you |
| 08:43.23 | Fisker | that lens will be destroyed |
| 08:46.01 | zenzio | "I've got a simple question but it has got me confounded. The code below gets an UNDEFINED error for UIControlTouchUpInside. What do I need to include or import?" - well, a good place to start would be the documentation, or even the auto-completion, which would show you that you're using an incorrect name |
| 08:46.22 | zenzio | Stack Overflow is nice, but sometimes I feel it keeps people from trying to understand their problems |
| 08:48.27 | ZorbaTHut | zenzio, this is true of any way whatsoever to get help with problems. |
| 08:48.55 | zenzio | ZorbaTHut: good point |
| 08:50.49 | ZorbaTHut | oh dammit I want to leave a comment on a post but I'm nine rep short :( |
| 08:51.13 | zenzio | heh |
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| 09:18.11 | zenzio | "Everyone knows that analog produces a warmer, more beautiful picture free of the deleterious effects of the analog-to-digital conversion process. A properly configured analog video setup produces a superior experience to a digital setup. Anyone who disagrees just doesn't have sophisticated enough eyes." - hehe |
| 09:18.33 | Torhal | YOU ARE FAULTY! |
| 09:18.35 | Torhal | Nice argument. |
| 09:18.52 | zenzio | they were talking about VCRs |
| 09:19.06 | zenzio | so it was a joke on the "analog audio > digital audio" thing |
| 09:19.22 | Torhal | Hehe |
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| 09:30.36 | zenzio | "Blu-ray players have struggled partly because the MPEG I-frames stored on DVD discs were based on JPEG, which carries DCT information that can be exploited to improve interpolation for higher resolutions[citation needed]." - I do wonder if that is correct, but I'm too ignorant of such graphic operations to really understand it |
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| 09:39.41 | Fisker | i believe i can zenzio |
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| 11:33.52 | Wobin | omg |
| 11:33.53 | Wobin | http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2010/03/17/could-airborne-parachuting-bears-catch-bin-laden/ |
| 11:35.51 | zenzio | killer idea |
| 11:38.27 | olafski | let's train them to take off their parachutes :P |
| 11:41.00 | zenzio | "I would be happy to see a real Windows Mobile OS pop up that could cut it with iPhone OS or Android, and I don't think that WM 7 is going to do it." - "No thanks, I had enough with the pop ups on their desktop OS." |
| 11:41.59 | olafski | oO |
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| 12:32.19 | Fisker | OMFG |
| 12:32.22 | Fisker | fucking tards ;_; |
| 12:32.40 | Fisker | 2 seriously sick mofo rings drop |
| 12:32.45 | Fisker | the healer needs on both and leaves |
| 12:32.47 | Fisker | i need on them as well |
| 12:32.49 | Fisker | AND HE WINS THEM |
| 12:32.58 | Fisker | i want to physically harm him |
| 12:33.20 | Grum | pug? |
| 12:33.37 | Fisker | random dungeon |
| 12:33.50 | Grum | yay whine about ilvl20 loot :( |
| 12:34.19 | Fisker | how does the level of the loot matter? |
| 12:34.27 | Fisker | and it's not ilevel 20 |
| 12:38.05 | zenzio | why can I not stop reading the comments on MMOC's Paragon video post? The drama... the drama |
| 12:45.52 | zenzio | I am intrigued that people are speculating that Ensidia is trying an unbuffed kill so as to appear more impressive |
| 12:46.13 | olafski | rage about loot! raaaage |
| 12:46.24 | olafski | how can they prove it was unbuffed though =( |
| 12:46.56 | zenzio | "You should take that tinfoil hat of sometime, especially now during spring time as I think it's boiling your brain." - hah |
| 12:47.48 | olafski | :) |
| 12:47.59 | olafski | I don't see why people insist for the horde's world second kill is listed too |
| 12:48.05 | olafski | should the world 3rd to 10th be listed too? |
| 12:48.19 | ZorbaTHut | it would surprise me if Paragon wasn't working on an unbuffed kill |
| 12:48.33 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, it's going to be another news story when someone pulls it off |
| 12:48.40 | zenzio | ZorbaTHut: for Paragon, yeah |
| 12:48.49 | olafski | I guess.. but less impressive if you've already done it with the buff imo |
| 12:48.55 | ZorbaTHut | still, I rather doubt Ensidia's trying it before they do it with the buff |
| 12:49.57 | zenzio | olafski: along the same lines, I find it silly to mention "other region" firsts after a world first |
| 12:50.28 | ZorbaTHut | we should have news stories for a bottom-ten-percent server pulling it off |
| 12:50.30 | olafski | indeed zenzio :) |
| 12:50.32 | ZorbaTHut | Crappy Backwater Server First |
| 12:50.38 | zenzio | ZorbaTHut: haha |
| 12:51.02 | zenzio | <Spice Vendor> downs Anub'Rekhan |
| 12:51.03 | ZorbaTHut | with luck we'll have our CBSF of Yogg+0 in the next few months, maybe |
| 12:54.30 | olafski | I like the music choice on the paragon vid :P |
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| 12:59.11 | industrial | zenzio: hey now, I actually play in <Cuddle Vendor> D: |
| 12:59.32 | industrial | we just have LK left tho :p |
| 13:00.34 | olafski | <Slackers> ftw I say |
| 13:00.42 | industrial | <Cunning Stunts> |
| 13:00.44 | industrial | :p |
| 13:00.59 | xasz | Morning all - this the place to come in and ask dumb questions? :P |
| 13:01.04 | industrial | yes xasz |
| 13:01.05 | olafski | yes |
| 13:01.21 | olafski | before you ask though, be sure to check if it's dumb enough |
| 13:01.48 | xasz | I'd say on a scale of one to dumb, this one rates a "pretty stupid" |
| 13:01.54 | olafski | then it's fine |
| 13:02.05 | olafski | if you're asking about programming, don't include your source code btw |
| 13:02.09 | olafski | we like to guess =) |
| 13:03.16 | xasz | Anyway, I'm using a suite called ncui if anyone's familiar, and hacking it up quite nicely. I'm having trouble with the chat module - by default, it automatically joins all the universal channels (trade, general, etc) and seems to reset any custom chat colors |
| 13:04.05 | xasz | I have no idea why it's doing that, and I can't find anything that seems to match up to the API call for joining channels, either |
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| 13:04.40 | xasz | Also, I have no idea how or why it's not remembering (or perhaps is manually changing back to default) the channel colors |
| 13:07.46 | xasz | So I guess what I'm asking is if anyone can give me tips on what to look for that might be causing it, potential ways to override it, or just happens to know that mod really well... |
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| 13:10.27 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/042010/sagan_is_on_a_horse.gif |
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| 13:24.29 | zenzio | <industrial> zenzio: hey now, I actually play in <Cuddle Vendor> D: <-- on my first character, I signed a guild charter once without knowing what it was. When I logged in next day, I really was in <Spice Vendor> |
| 13:29.14 | Kaso | On the TBC beta i had a guild <Flying Mount Vendor> and i'd enjoy going standing in the middle of thrallmar |
| 13:29.28 | zenzio | hahaha =D |
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| 13:36.25 | zenzio | "Music on videos are from the movie "Transformers". Listen to music on the film where optimus and other guys come from the sky." - "You can also hear him speak once he gets out of the Frostmourne. "Autobots, assemble!" Optimus Menethil I call him." |
| 13:36.33 | zenzio | now that would have been funky |
| 13:36.52 | Fisker | lies zenzio |
| 13:37.03 | olafski | "Terenas Menethil wants to resurrect you." is pretty cool :P |
| 13:37.05 | Fisker | i remember that zenzio |
| 13:37.18 | Fisker | err Kaso |
| 13:37.47 | Kaso | easy typo to make |
| 13:37.55 | Kaso | the k and z keys are right next to each other! |
| 13:38.46 | olafski | mm I should really watch transformers 2 a 5th time |
| 13:41.28 | Kaso | So i've concluded that Pitbull 3 is responsible for making wintersgrasp unplayable for me, seems to tight-lock whenever people join/leave raid |
| 13:41.41 | zenzio | o_O |
| 13:41.49 | zenzio | only in Wintergrasp? |
| 13:41.49 | Kaso | Does anyone know how usable pitbull 4 is (the wowace page says it isnt finished)? |
| 13:42.07 | Kaso | well not only in wintergrasp, but i notice it alot there because its a big raid with alot of churn |
| 13:42.26 | xasz | last I checked, pitbull 4 works beautifully but has no raid frames whatsoever |
| 13:42.51 | Kaso | well thats okay because i didnt even use pitbull for raid (which makes its performance even more frustrating |
| 13:42.54 | zenzio | Kaso: was just wondering if it was a general raid-thing |
| 13:43.01 | xasz | Aye, I used pitbull4 + grid |
| 13:43.06 | xasz | worked great :) |
| 13:43.54 | Kaso | zenzio: I havent tested to be honest, but i presume. The thing is when im in a normal raid and its forming im using afking by the icc door, but when people are joining wintersgrasp raids i tend to be trying to do stuff like killing people, so i defianately notice it |
| 13:44.33 | Kaso | Also i suspect the issue gets worse with raid size, because i did some "me and my friend in a raid" type testing with addon profiler and it didnt show up too much, but in wintersgrasp the cpu usage was going crazy |
| 13:44.34 | zenzio | I see |
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| 13:44.48 | zenzio | I also see Lopeppeppy |
| 13:45.15 | Lopeppeppy | oh hi |
| 13:45.34 | Kaso | perhaps some odd O(n^y) function on raid refresh or something that suffers when there's fourty people all doing suff |
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| 14:00.41 | zenzio | http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1614804&cid=31815294 |
| 14:02.08 | Kaso | waaah?! |
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| 14:02.48 | Kaso | I did not expect adobe to ever do that |
| 14:03.08 | Kaso | though i guess they make their money from selling Flash CS5 and not the flash plugin. |
| 14:03.44 | zenzio | like some other comments said, they needed something besides the iPhone export for CS5 (at least I subscribe to this theory) |
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| 14:06.18 | zenzio | Cairenn|afk: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/12/funny-pictures-macgyver-kitteh-2/ (also TC) |
| 14:10.06 | Wobin | hum |
| 14:10.19 | Wobin | Mind sear, from a spriest perspective, doesn't damage the target, right? |
| 14:10.27 | Kaso | yes |
| 14:10.45 | Wobin | it doesn't? |
| 14:10.48 | Wobin | or it does |
| 14:10.53 | Kaso | it does not damage the target |
| 14:10.55 | Wobin | Sorry, badly phrased |
| 14:10.58 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:10.59 | Kaso | usually you dot up your target then sear it to get the others |
| 14:11.09 | Wobin | I wonder why I've seen spriests single target with it |
| 14:11.14 | Mikk | because they suck |
| 14:11.15 | Kaso | cos they're stupid |
| 14:11.27 | Wobin | I use it as a disc priest, and I thought it might be a shadow talent or something |
| 14:11.29 | Kaso | i cry whenever i see shadowpriests using it on <4 mobs |
| 14:12.02 | Wobin | You don't get pretty numbers if you use it on 3 or less |
| 14:12.22 | Kaso | well you do get pretty numbers, but you could get more by multi-dotting ;p |
| 14:12.38 | Kaso | though saying that multi-dotting requires effort and spamming sear does not |
| 14:12.57 | Mikk | multidotting requires targets to stay alive for more than 5 seconds :P |
| 14:13.03 | Kaso | true as well |
| 14:14.00 | Kaso | Wobin: i was once in a group with a warlock that rain of fired on all pulls, even on bosses and single targetted, i think it was a bot |
| 14:14.14 | Wobin | yeah, I've been with those =( |
| 14:14.27 | Wobin | (PS, 10min for a healer in lfd? wtf?) |
| 14:16.48 | Fisker | i hate you Wobin |
| 14:16.58 | Wobin | smooches Fisker |
| 14:20.14 | Fisker | http://kotaku.com/5515061/ousted-modern-warfare-2-creators-respawn-sign-with-former-rivals <-win |
| 14:22.28 | olafski | oh those silly attention whores |
| 14:23.27 | Fisker | Activision, 2k and Ubisoft needs to be stopped |
| 14:23.45 | olafski | I don't mind any of them |
| 14:24.01 | Kalroth | replace 2k with EA and its a good list! |
| 14:28.29 | Fisker | naw Kalroth |
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| 14:41.41 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: you got Freeflow Perfection and Freeflow Combo 40 done for batman? how the hell did you do them :| |
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| 15:16.55 | cog|away | Shirik: amg vs2010 |
| 15:17.01 | Shirik | amgino |
| 15:18.24 | Fisker | old |
| 15:18.24 | cog|away | Fisker: wut |
| 15:18.24 | Cide | hi |
| 15:18.24 | cog|away | -12 minutes old |
| 15:18.25 | cogwheel | hi |
| 15:18.39 | Wobin | http://vimeo.com/4749536?hd=1 |
| 15:18.41 | Wobin | creeeeepy |
| 15:18.58 | Cide | creepy doll |
| 15:19.08 | Wobin | yeah =\ |
| 15:19.22 | Cide | oh I was just singing jonathan coulton |
| 15:19.40 | Wobin | you're not half wrong =) |
| 15:20.07 | Fisker | maybe i should get my copy as well |
| 15:20.09 | Fisker | hoho cogwheel |
| 15:20.10 | Fisker | hohohoho |
| 15:20.21 | cogwheel | SANTA??!??! |
| 15:20.27 | Fisker | maybe |
| 15:20.37 | Wobin | satan? |
| 15:20.51 | cogwheel | snoop dog? |
| 15:21.12 | amro | santa hos in 3s, not 2s and 4s |
| 15:21.15 | amro | you're an imposter Fisker |
| 15:21.48 | Fisker | no! |
| 15:22.16 | Shirik | amg |
| 15:22.24 | Shirik | DAYTONA BEACH, FL, US04/12/20108:00 A.M.OUT FOR DELIVERY |
| 15:25.24 | Fisker | it'll arrive broken |
| 15:25.58 | Shirik | ffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 15:39.23 | Lothaer | hey guys and gals :D |
| 15:40.11 | Shirik | ohi |
| 15:40.44 | Lothaer | whats new? |
| 15:42.53 | Ackis | my tooth chipped again |
| 15:42.55 | Ackis | I blame Kaelten |
| 15:43.35 | Ackis | apparently jnwhiteh is out of surgery and doing fine. |
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| 15:44.29 | Lothaer | any nUI users here? |
| 15:45.03 | Shirik | how do you know that Ackis |
| 15:45.26 | Ackis | Shirik: twitter/facebook |
| 15:45.47 | Shirik | he wakes up from surgery and the first thing he does is update his facebook/twitter? |
| 15:45.52 | Shirik | what has this world come to |
| 15:46.04 | Wobin | huzzah |
| 15:46.10 | Ackis | he didn't do it |
| 15:46.13 | Wobin | I told him to liveblog his surgery =) |
| 15:46.14 | Ackis | someone did it for him |
| 15:46.28 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/jnwhiteh/status/12042024479 and http://twitter.com/jnwhiteh/status/12051969800 |
| 15:46.57 | Wobin | http://www.facebook.com/pages/JOHN-CAGES-433-FOR-CHRISTMAS-NUMBER-ONE-2010/226160841625?ref=nf&v=wall |
| 15:47.03 | Wobin | now there's a group I can get behind =P |
| 15:47.52 | Ackis | Shirik: I just thought people in the chan would be interested in that status update:P |
| 15:48.19 | Shirik | ok so he wakes up and the first thing he says is tells someone to updates his twitter/facebook |
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| 15:48.29 | haste | *facepalm* |
| 15:48.48 | Ackis | Shirik: I'm guessing what happened is that whoever is tweeting/facebooking for him found out from the docs that he's doing ok and provided the update |
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| 15:48.59 | Wobin | Shirik, o_O |
| 15:49.21 | Wobin | I for one, am glad that someone is updating his twitter with his status. |
| 15:49.23 | Wobin | I dunno about you |
| 15:49.28 | nicoli_s | i think he woke up and went in to a rage until they handed him his phone with facebook and he calmed by twittering |
| 15:49.33 | Wobin | but I was somewhat concerned that he needed surgery |
| 15:49.42 | Wobin | and it's nice to know that it went well |
| 15:49.44 | Wobin | but hey |
| 15:49.49 | Shirik | I'm not disagreeing with that |
| 15:49.54 | Wobin | I guess, technology is a TERRIBLE THING |
| 15:49.57 | Shirik | I'm just saying I think it's a sign of the times |
| 15:50.10 | Grum | Wobin: no, 'social networking' is :p |
| 15:50.18 | Wobin | @ Jim Whitehead Jim just went into surgery, will let you all know when he is out |
| 15:50.30 | Wobin | @ Jim Whitehead Jim is out of surgery and doing fine. |
| 15:50.38 | Wobin | Thus the DOWNFALL OF HUMANITY IS EXPOSED |
| 15:51.04 | Wobin | take a chill pill Shirik |
| 15:51.07 | Grum | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.23 | Wobin | Since it wasn't Jim who -did- the goddamn tweet =P |
| 15:51.31 | Grum | IT WAS! |
| 15:51.32 | Shirik | what does the @ mean anyway |
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| 15:51.39 | Wobin | welcome to 2008 |
| 15:51.41 | Grum | Shirik: <-- |
| 15:51.50 | Wobin | or whenever the hell Twitter came out |
| 15:52.15 | Grum | i have no idea why anyone would *ever* use twitter :) |
| 15:52.35 | industrial | its indirect irc |
| 15:52.45 | industrial | instead of forming one channel, everyone subscribes to one another |
| 15:52.48 | Wobin | That's because you're an introvert, Grum =P |
| 15:52.51 | Grum | no, its an indirect irc *log* |
| 15:52.55 | industrial | and then you still aggregate instant messages between a cloud of people |
| 15:53.02 | industrial | AWZUM |
| 15:53.30 | Grum | ah well i dont get it |
| 15:53.44 | Grum | but i love people 'tweeting' that they are 'somewhere' ... yay for burglars :D |
| 15:53.53 | industrial | lol |
| 15:54.24 | Wobin | I think someone did an experiment, where they mapped where people tweeted "About to fly to X" and "Landed at Y" |
| 15:54.40 | Wobin | or "Leaving X" or something |
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| 15:55.42 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 15:55.46 | Fisker | your damn lens is broken |
| 15:56.34 | Grum | Wobin: they did it worse, IIRC they introduced something to record 'coordinates' from where you tweet |
| 15:56.45 | Grum | and then someone made a website recording messages with locations ... |
| 15:56.45 | Wobin | has that happened already? |
| 15:56.56 | Grum | and obviously people would tweet '@ Home' ..and then something .. well .. not @home :P |
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| 15:57.05 | industrial | Wobin: pm |
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| 15:57.47 | Grum | ah here; http://pleaserobme.com/ |
| 15:57.57 | Fisker | Grum industrial |
| 15:58.04 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:58.29 | industrial | Fisker Wobin |
| 15:58.34 | Grum | Fisker: you are such a nub |
| 15:58.49 | Fisker | imma getting a GTX 480 |
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| 16:01.49 | durcyn | more money than sense on that fisker |
| 16:04.30 | Zyonin | Oh boy, fun learning a new *nix window manger |
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| 16:05.10 | Fisker | what do you mean durcyn ? |
| 16:05.50 | Kraps | quickbooks is down so i cant cross-reference shit, yet i'm expected to "work" |
| 16:06.03 | Fisker | l2p |
| 16:07.35 | Kraps | l2pop? play? procrastinate? |
| 16:07.57 | durcyn | layer 2 tunnelling protocol |
| 16:10.30 | industrial | Zyonin: which |
| 16:10.41 | Zyonin | Openbox |
| 16:11.22 | Zyonin | I have have had some hiccups but after trawling the 'net, It's working nicely |
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| 16:20.25 | Cidwel | hi all >_> |
| 16:20.40 | Lopeppeppy | Morning |
| 16:23.50 | Wobin | http://evilpuppy.livejournal.com/365126.html |
| 16:23.54 | Wobin | Grr |
| 16:24.22 | Wobin | will not, if the opportunity ever presented itself, ever be flying United |
| 16:24.51 | Cidwel | anyone knows a good way for debugging xml files? |
| 16:25.12 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/24261188784/world-of-warcraft-battle-plan-april-2010/ |
| 16:25.53 | Fisker | aww |
| 16:25.59 | Fisker | i was hoping for something good |
| 16:26.23 | Fisker | Seems to be more blatant self-advertisement rather than a battleplan |
| 16:28.48 | Cidwel | I need halp! >_> I don't know what the hell I did in a xml file. In my addon I created a simple xml frame that shows only if player presses the shift button, the problem is that when I'm in combat, that frame doesn't show. I have been debugging all the lua files as well as the xml file, I tried validating it (if it could be a syntax error) When I make a new xml file with that simple condition, the frame shows well in combat too. |
| 16:29.03 | Cidwel | there's a list of actions that couldnt be used in combat? |
| 16:29.34 | cogwheel | if you have a secure frame (action button, unit frame, etc.) you can't manually show/hide/move them in combat |
| 16:30.11 | cogwheel | you have to use secure handlers |
| 16:31.11 | Wobin | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/12/funny-pictures-ur-pakages-here |
| 16:31.56 | Cidwel | I used secure handlers, I'll check them |
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| 16:36.07 | Kraps | Fisker: database upgrades! |
| 16:36.09 | Bibi | [18:25:23] <Fisker> i was hoping for something good |
| 16:36.26 | Bibi | there is something good. |
| 16:37.08 | Bibi | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24261188784&sid=1#6 |
| 16:37.09 | Bibi | :D |
| 16:37.41 | Bibi | half of the replies are "LOL OLD" and "LOL ALREADY ON MMO-CHAMPION" |
| 16:37.48 | Bibi | Nethaera is going to send someone to kill me, seriously |
| 16:37.49 | Kraps | lolz |
| 16:38.27 | Kraps | Bashiok |
| 16:38.35 | Kraps | that dudes crazy |
| 16:40.05 | nevcairiel | there actually was one new fact in that post, unless i missed it before |
| 16:40.13 | nevcairiel | solid plans for hardware upgrades |
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| 16:42.02 | Kraps | bibi's spy(s) didnt pick that up :/ |
| 16:42.13 | nevcairiel | everything else was really old |
| 16:42.17 | nevcairiel | like, blizzcon old |
| 16:42.22 | nevcairiel | wouldnt even give mmo-c credit :p |
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| 16:43.08 | Bibi | yeah I definitely never realized any of that first |
| 16:43.11 | Bibi | except the gnomeregan event |
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| 16:44.02 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/726/ |
| 16:45.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 16:45.28 | Shirik | I wanna try that now |
| 16:47.02 | Shirik | o.o |
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| 16:47.13 | Shirik | We are sending you this message because we experienced a security breach and suspect that your Atlassian customer account password details (only) may have been compromised. |
| 16:47.19 | Shirik | WobWork ^ |
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| 16:49.24 | Kraps | Atlassian? |
| 16:49.36 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:49.44 | Shirik | also, lol, I can't log into atlassian's site |
| 16:49.49 | Gnarfoz | guess why? :p |
| 16:49.49 | Shirik | they're probably getting ddosed by traffic now |
| 16:50.06 | Kraps | so theres a country/city called Atlas? |
| 16:50.12 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: no... |
| 16:50.17 | Gnarfoz | or they did the Smart Thing(tm) and reset all customer passwords |
| 16:50.20 | Shirik | there is a company Atlassian -_- |
| 16:50.32 | Kraps | and residents are called Atlassians |
| 16:50.40 | Shirik | you do not reside in a company |
| 16:50.42 | Gnarfoz | they make JIRA and such |
| 16:50.55 | Gnarfoz | FishEye, and others |
| 16:50.59 | Kraps | stop ruining the coolness |
| 16:51.08 | Gnarfoz | it was moronicness from the start |
| 16:51.20 | Kraps | no u |
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| 16:52.04 | Shirik | I have a license to JIRA, FishEye, Crucible, Bamboo, GreenHopper, Confluence |
| 16:52.15 | Shirik | I wonder if anything else |
| 16:52.22 | Shirik | Crowd |
| 16:52.57 | Cide | kill |
| 16:53.02 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
| 16:53.17 | Kraps | are those programming stuff? |
| 16:53.19 | Adys | Cide |
| 16:53.25 | Adys | http://imgur.com/gallery/RKLHR |
| 16:53.36 | Gnarfoz | no, that's just unlikely in #wowuiDEV :p |
| 16:53.45 | Gnarfoz | it's probably all games |
| 16:54.12 | Shirik | Kraps: JIRA is a bug tracker, Fisheye/Crucible is code review, Bamboo is CIS, GreenHopper is agile project management, Confluence is a wiki, Crowd is a single-sign on |
| 16:54.18 | Cide | what has that to do with a license to kill? |
| 16:54.35 | Cide | do you have that Shirik? |
| 16:54.39 | Shirik | yes |
| 16:54.48 | Cide | oh ok |
| 16:54.53 | Shirik | JIRA is one of my project's sponsors |
| 16:54.54 | Shirik | er |
| 16:54.55 | Shirik | Atlassian* |
| 16:55.01 | Shirik | they gave us all that :3 |
| 16:55.07 | nevcairiel | They give jira away for free basically, as long as your project is small enough so you can live with the limits |
| 16:55.08 | Cide | .. |
| 16:55.14 | nevcairiel | like, 10 devs or so |
| 16:55.40 | Shirik | to this day I haven't gotten Fisheye to run |
| 16:55.43 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: to be fair, wow is a game, ui is stuff on a screen, dev is development. WHAT DOES THIS CHANNEL DO???? |
| 16:55.47 | Kraps | :P |
| 16:55.50 | Shirik | because fisheye is really pissed about us using SVN 1.1 |
| 16:55.56 | Shirik | of course, so am I |
| 16:55.57 | Gnarfoz | entertain me, most of the time |
| 16:56.00 | Shirik | but fisheye is a bit more |
| 16:56.00 | nevcairiel | Kraps: the first are just adjectives to the development |
| 16:56.24 | Shirik | Kraps: game screen development |
| 16:56.28 | nevcairiel | wait, why do you use svn 1.1? |
| 16:56.30 | Shirik | do I win? |
| 16:56.35 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Because our IT is fucking morons |
| 16:56.54 | nevcairiel | thats like 10 years old! |
| 16:56.57 | Shirik | no shit |
| 16:57.04 | Gnarfoz | yes, it's shit |
| 16:57.26 | Kraps | lunch tiem |
| 16:57.27 | Gnarfoz | they'll probably move you over to git 1.2, soon |
| 16:57.43 | Shirik | Powered by Subversion version 1.1.4 (r13838). |
| 16:57.47 | Kaso | To any wowi admins: Am i allowed to swear in addon names? |
| 16:57.55 | Cide | fuck yes |
| 16:58.00 | Kaso | lol |
| 16:58.32 | Gnarfoz | they carry Serious Help In Timing, so... |
| 16:58.37 | Shirik | The current version: Powered by Subversion version 1.6.9 (r901367). |
| 16:58.40 | Shirik | Do you see that |
| 16:58.53 | Shirik | we are off by almost an order of 100 in revisions |
| 16:59.01 | nevcairiel | interesting |
| 16:59.04 | Cide | nice |
| 16:59.08 | nevcairiel | so many revs on a single project? |
| 16:59.08 | Fisker | Shirik ! |
| 16:59.09 | Shirik | lua> 901367 - 13838 |
| 16:59.10 | lua_bot | Shirik: 887529 |
| 16:59.11 | nevcairiel | thats kinda insane |
| 16:59.12 | Cide | that's an accomplishment in itself |
| 16:59.13 | Fisker | was your lens broken? |
| 16:59.15 | Shirik | 887529 revisions out of date |
| 16:59.26 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 16:59.28 | Shirik | what the shit |
| 16:59.32 | Shirik | UPS literally just arrived at my door |
| 16:59.34 | nevcairiel | do they share their svn with something? |
| 16:59.36 | Shirik | you really are some kind of hacker |
| 16:59.43 | Fisker | i'm a serious haker |
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| 17:01.22 | Gnarfoz | wtf 900k revs |
| 17:01.25 | Gnarfoz | blergh |
| 17:02.08 | Shirik | MUAHAHAHA |
| 17:02.12 | Shirik | Do you see this box |
| 17:02.14 | Shirik | it means I am a god |
| 17:02.51 | durcyn | box of whatttt |
| 17:03.08 | Shirik | $2600 worth of glass |
| 17:03.19 | durcyn | oh, so a macbook and a dildo |
| 17:03.26 | Shirik | lmao |
| 17:03.38 | Kraps | if back to the future was remade now, who would you want in the roles of marty and doc? |
| 17:03.45 | Gnarfoz | nobody and nobody |
| 17:03.49 | Shirik | http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/680103-USA/Canon_2751B002_EF_70_200mm_f_2_8L_IS.html |
| 17:04.03 | Gnarfoz | don't remake good films, you can only make them worse |
| 17:04.46 | Kraps | i know |
| 17:04.51 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: as you seem to have way too much money, where would you like my bank details for your next... investement/ |
| 17:04.51 | Kraps | but its coming |
| 17:04.56 | Kraps | i can feel it |
| 17:05.00 | Shirik | oh Gnarfoz |
| 17:05.02 | Shirik | check this out |
| 17:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a much better investment |
| 17:05.07 | Shirik | targetted advertising is a bitch |
| 17:05.19 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: you're way too dangerous |
| 17:05.24 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: say what? |
| 17:05.28 | Shirik | A few days after I ordered this |
| 17:05.32 | Lopeppeppy | They keep telling me that. Is that why I can't keep a boyfriend? |
| 17:05.37 | Shirik | well ok |
| 17:05.39 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: possibly |
| 17:05.43 | Shirik | first off, when I was considering ordering this I was shopping around |
| 17:05.46 | Shirik | check the ad at the top: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b1b6551ca28b27c6fff9bc7afe2adbfb.png |
| 17:06.18 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 17:06.25 | Shirik | then |
| 17:06.29 | Shirik | after I ordered it |
| 17:06.40 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e4871374bc7be27e83856a178b5ad749.png |
| 17:06.45 | Lopeppeppy | I shall make an attempt to be boring as ditchwater then. |
| 17:06.47 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:06.49 | Gnarfoz | creepy |
| 17:07.06 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh you use regexbuddy also - its so awesome |
| 17:07.53 | Cide | shirik has way too many wikipedia tabs |
| 17:08.03 | Cide | and a weird chrome theme |
| 17:08.22 | Cide | and too many instances of most programs |
| 17:08.37 | cogwheel | Shirik: <3 pharyngula |
| 17:14.27 | Shirik | omg I think I"m in love |
| 17:14.46 | Cide | with what? |
| 17:14.57 | Shirik | my lens, what else |
| 17:15.06 | Cide | can't imagine anything else |
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| 17:22.54 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/funny-pictures-cat-has-packing-peanuts.jpg lol |
| 17:24.07 | Fisker | Ackis Shirik |
| 17:24.13 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 17:24.15 | Shirik | it is not broken |
| 17:24.19 | Fisker | damn |
| 17:24.21 | Fisker | i'm disappoint |
| 17:24.42 | Fisker | can you leave outside for a few minutes? |
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| 17:26.21 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:29.18 | Fisker | bah |
| 17:29.20 | Fisker | leave it* |
| 17:33.37 | Lopeppeppy | sniffs. Is not her. |
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| 17:34.29 | NeoTron | Fisker: Son I am disappoint! |
| 17:40.42 | Kraps | i accidentally my face what do i do? |
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| 17:42.04 | Lopeppeppy | burn it |
| 17:43.52 | Gnarfoz | http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/bohu5/i_steal_peoplesfriends_passwords_to_just_about/c0nwecl?context=3 :D |
| 17:44.54 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/image.php?path=/2010/04/12/wow-chart-full.jpg |
| 17:48.26 | Fisker | i came? |
| 17:48.44 | Adys | !api vehicleseat |
| 17:48.45 | lua_bot | Found 5 possible results for 'vehicleseat': CanSwitchVehicleSeats, UnitSwitchToVehicleSeat, UnitVehicleSeatInfo, UnitVehicleSeatCount, CanSwitchVehicleSeat |
| 17:50.11 | Adys | !api vehicleseatinfo |
| 17:50.12 | lua_bot | UnitVehicleSeatInfo: Returns information about seats in a vehicle (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitVehicleSeatInfo) |
| 17:50.54 | Kraps | Fisker: you went? |
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| 17:56.46 | Fisker | i didn't Kraps |
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| 17:57.14 | Adys | lua> ("Angry Val'Kyr"):match("\s") |
| 17:57.15 | lua_bot | Adys: nil |
| 17:57.31 | Adys | lua> ("Angry Val'Kyr"):match(" ") |
| 17:57.32 | lua_bot | Adys: No output |
| 17:57.46 | Adys | eh |
| 17:57.54 | Shirik | that's misleading |
| 17:57.54 | Cide | wrong order |
| 17:58.04 | Shirik | lua> #(("Angry Val'Kyr"):match(" ")) |
| 17:58.05 | Cide | lua> (" "):match("Angry Val'Kyr") |
| 17:58.05 | lua_bot | Shirik: 1 |
| 17:58.06 | lua_bot | Cide: nil |
| 17:58.22 | Cide | or not |
| 17:58.42 | Adys | I want to know if the name contains any character not allowed in player names |
| 17:58.44 | haste | Adys: it's %s, and it should return the space :P |
| 17:58.45 | Shirik | lua> ("%q"):format(("Angry Val'Kyr"):match(" ")) |
| 17:58.46 | lua_bot | Shirik: " " |
| 17:58.48 | Kraps | return (lol Val'Kyr u mad bro?) |
| 17:59.02 | haste | lua> #("Angry Val'Kyr"):match(" ") |
| 17:59.02 | lua_bot | haste: 1 |
| 17:59.07 | haste | so it does match it |
| 17:59.16 | Shirik | haste is so slow |
| 17:59.19 | Shirik | (13:57:42) (@Shirik) lua> #(("Angry Val'Kyr"):match(" ")) |
| 17:59.20 | haste | oh, Shirik already showed it! |
| 17:59.27 | haste | I blame the drugs |
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| 18:00.13 | Adys | Shirik: |
| 18:00.13 | Adys | [18:58:42] <Adys> I want to know if the name contains any character not allowed in player names |
| 18:00.18 | Adys | any idea? |
| 18:00.23 | Shirik | you already have the idea |
| 18:00.31 | Adys | alternatively |
| 18:00.37 | Adys | i want to know if a unit seat is occupied by a player |
| 18:00.55 | Shirik | lua> not not ("Angry Val'Kyr"):match("[^a-zA-Z]") |
| 18:00.58 | lua_bot | Shirik: true |
| 18:01.05 | Adys | yeah no |
| 18:01.06 | Shirik | lua> not not ("Shirik"):match("[^a-zA-Z]") |
| 18:01.08 | lua_bot | Shirik: false |
| 18:01.32 | Adys | lua> ("Jònny"):match("[^a-zA-Z]") |
| 18:01.33 | lua_bot | Adys: Ã |
| 18:01.39 | Adys | wtf? |
| 18:02.14 | Kraps | Adys: |
| 18:02.35 | Gnarfoz | a-zA-Z does not cover everything allowed in character names |
| 18:02.40 | Adys | I know |
| 18:02.42 | Adys | thats what im saying |
| 18:02.45 | Gnarfoz | just telling Shirik |
| 18:03.17 | Adys | where does it get à |
| 18:03.38 | haste | Adys: it pulls out the first value of the multi-byte character ò |
| 18:03.58 | Adys | fail |
| 18:03.59 | Shirik | haste wins |
| 18:04.02 | Gnarfoz | the usual multibyte madness |
| 18:04.03 | industrial | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.07 | industrial | raid time FFFFFFFuuuuuuuu |
| 18:04.11 | haste | industrial: let me fire up WoW |
| 18:04.25 | industrial | hangs on 'Connected' |
| 18:04.28 | haste | same |
| 18:04.42 | industrial | a;lskdjf;lkajf I raced my ass home for this >< |
| 18:04.51 | haste | bad timing! |
| 18:05.00 | haste | get on VT now and tell them :P |
| 18:05.02 | Kraps | industrial: who won? |
| 18:05.42 | industrial | Kraps: I carried it, so I won |
| 18:05.58 | Kraps | cheater :( |
| 18:08.11 | Shirik | lmao, I love these instructions on this lens |
| 18:08.52 | Shirik | Image stabilizer mode 1: Effective for: * semi-darkened areas such as indoors or outdoors at night * in situations where fast shutter settings cannot be used * in situations where your footing is uncertain |
| 18:08.56 | Shirik | #3 is priceless |
| 18:09.02 | Adys | so Shirik |
| 18:09.22 | Lopeppeppy | ... uncertain footing is a recipe for interesting times. |
| 18:09.28 | Adys | how would i do to check against "name contains whitespace, an apostrophe, a quote or a dash" |
| 18:09.51 | Shirik | [\s'"-] ? |
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| 18:10.20 | Adys | lua> ("angry val'kyr"):match("[\s'\"-]") |
| 18:10.21 | lua_bot | Adys: ' |
| 18:10.26 | Adys | kay |
| 18:10.35 | Adys | lua> not "" |
| 18:10.36 | lua_bot | Adys: false |
| 18:11.12 | Kraps | lua> hi |
| 18:11.12 | lua_bot | Kraps: nil |
| 18:11.20 | Lunessa | So, when an operation that normally produces a 40 line output generates 820 lines of (often duplicative) output, what do you call your bug report? "820 lines about 40 accounts" |
| 18:11.53 | Kraps | lua> nil |
| 18:11.54 | lua_bot | Kraps: nil |
| 18:12.28 | Kraps | lua> 1 |
| 18:12.28 | lua_bot | Kraps: 1 |
| 18:12.38 | mikma | lua> return |
| 18:12.39 | lua_bot | mikma: No output |
| 18:12.56 | Adys | lua> ("Argent Watchman"):match("[\s'\"-]") |
| 18:12.57 | lua_bot | Adys: nil |
| 18:12.58 | Adys | ~failrik |
| 18:12.59 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 18:13.24 | Gnarfoz | what surgery is jnwhiteh getting, is the topic out of date, and if not, why is it so risky? :o |
| 18:13.29 | Shirik | s/\/%/g |
| 18:13.29 | Kraps | lua> 1+1 |
| 18:13.30 | lua_bot | Kraps: 2 |
| 18:15.34 | Kraps | lua> 3^ |
| 18:15.36 | lua_bot | Kraps: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '3' |
| 18:15.41 | Cide | Lunessa: epic fail? |
| 18:15.57 | Kraps | lua> 3^3 |
| 18:15.58 | lua_bot | Kraps: 27 |
| 18:16.04 | Lunessa | Cide: n00b mistake on the programmer's part. |
| 18:17.00 | Lunessa | But I was also making a reference to http://vimeo.com/5723319 |
| 18:17.22 | Cide | ah, haven't seen that |
| 18:18.41 | Lunessa | The song is one I like, even if it is generally offensive. :P |
| 18:19.06 | Lunessa | I know the programmer I'm reporting the bug to will get the reference. |
| 18:19.21 | Kraps | what song is it? |
| 18:19.46 | mikma | aw |
| 18:19.48 | Lunessa | 88 Lines About 44 Women - The Nails. |
| 18:26.17 | Cidwel | There's really a way to make a frame with securebuttons to hide and show in combat if I only set the parent frame with secure restrictions? |
| 18:26.18 | Lopeppeppy | I have a filk of that, I like it better than the original. |
| 18:26.25 | Lopeppeppy | goes to hide in the college catalog again! |
| 18:26.31 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:30.54 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:32.08 | Kraps | Shirik: no touchy |
| 18:38.40 | Thunder_Child | good job Shirik, good job |
| 18:38.46 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:38.57 | Thunder_Child | making the peppy leave |
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| 18:41.15 | Lunessa | Cidwel: In order to have action button "hide" or "show" in combat everything must use secure templates. Parents and children. Cide of Foxlit will smack me if I've gotten it wrong. :P |
| 18:41.37 | Cide | I'll smack you anyway |
| 18:41.52 | Thunder_Child | lol @ Cide of Foxlit |
| 18:42.05 | Lunessa | Cide: You naughty boy. That costs extra. |
| 18:42.11 | Cidwel | lol |
| 18:42.25 | Lunessa | is the knig of typos. |
| 18:42.28 | Lunessa | See? |
| 18:42.49 | Thunder_Child | why? because your failures turn out good anyway? |
| 18:43.03 | Lunessa | Because I make enough of them to build an empire. |
| 18:43.27 | Cidwel | I'm doing this lunessa, I'm lurking forums, In the xml I've separated the frame and make it inherit from SecureHandlerBaseTemplate, but I don't know if I have to set the parent to UIParent |
| 18:43.40 | Thunder_Child | join the club, your card will be mailed in a few days |
| 18:44.03 | Kraps | cide =/= Cidwel? |
| 18:44.08 | Cide | . |
| 18:44.12 | Cide | . |
| 18:44.16 | Cide | . |
| 18:44.23 | Thunder_Child | split personallity |
| 18:44.30 | Lunessa | Cidwel: You should set your frame to be a child of UIParent if you want it to show/hide when ALT-Z is used. |
| 18:44.41 | Thunder_Child | hmmm....thats interesting, hey Shirik |
| 18:44.47 | Lunessa | Otherwise, it floats there, all the time. |
| 18:45.05 | Shirik | ? |
| 18:45.11 | Cidwel | derp |
| 18:45.17 | Thunder_Child | why didnt EDI pick up what Cide just did? |
| 18:45.37 | Cide | since I built it I am exempt |
| 18:45.46 | Thunder_Child | whore |
| 18:47.05 | Shirik | It was too short |
| 18:47.13 | Shirik | it doesn't qualify for that |
| 18:47.19 | Shirik | but if he kept it up it would take care of it |
| 18:47.25 | Joker | This nickname is registered. |
| 18:48.01 | Cide | I am exempt |
| 18:48.04 | Thunder_Child | you really surprised at that kraps? |
| 18:48.15 | Joker | no |
| 18:48.27 | Joker | i am dissapoint though |
| 18:48.34 | Cide | what is this i dont even |
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| 18:49.28 | Joker | 2 for 1: im 12 and what is this i dont even |
| 18:49.29 | Lunessa | All ur nick are belong to us. |
| 18:49.36 | Shirik | ROFL |
| 18:49.38 | Shirik | I think I win |
| 18:49.46 | Shirik | one of the filters I set up targetted this guy named "JI Hawkins" |
| 18:49.53 | Shirik | he hasn't had any hits on wikipedia recently. I finally found out why |
| 18:49.56 | Shirik | http://x-files.wikia.com/wiki/Colonel_Sanders |
| 18:51.26 | Lunessa | crack, they smokes it. |
| 18:51.54 | Shirik | seems he finally gave up trying to get around the filter |
| 18:52.22 | nicoli_s | lol thats awesome |
| 18:53.26 | nicoli_s | all thats stuff is pretty probable |
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| 19:01.48 | Joker | this is great "hey lets upgrade quickbooks wen people are at work so they cant get any work done" |
| 19:07.27 | doc-saintly | Joker: don't worry, thye're not going to upgrade it. it'll crash 90% of the way through xD |
| 19:07.37 | Joker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:07.58 | doc-saintly | and it'll be one of those nasty crashes that doesn't let you uninstall the old one or install the new one |
| 19:21.04 | Lunessa | OMG - Seerah is Cairenn ! |
| 19:21.11 | Shirik | it's true |
| 19:21.45 | Thunder_Child | so who was the other lady at blizzcon then, hired help? |
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| 19:23.57 | Lunessa | Lana Lang. |
| 19:24.22 | Lunessa | uses a second, weak Superman joke. |
| 19:27.20 | Thunder_Child | that or you meant Kristin Kreuk |
| 19:27.37 | Thunder_Child | but i think i would have remembered her |
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| 19:29.31 | Lunessa | Yeah, she's pretty memorable. |
| 19:30.08 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.46 | alestane | I saw that. |
| 19:30.52 | alestane | W00t! |
| 19:31.16 | Cairenn | indeed! |
| 19:31.44 | Lunessa | I've been following him on FB to monitor. :) I saw it. And WOOT! |
| 19:32.22 | Cairenn | breathes a huge sigh of relief |
| 19:32.40 | alestane | Lwt's hope that this also addresses the health issues he's been having. |
| 19:32.46 | Cairenn | aye |
| 19:32.46 | alestane | lwt's* |
| 19:32.56 | alestane | let's* |
| 19:33.02 | Cairenn | well, since it seems to have been the cause of many/most of them ..... |
| 19:33.11 | alestane | It seems likely. |
| 19:33.49 | alestane | The specialist sounded like he had a solid handle on this, and Jim did say that it was scary to basically be able to go down a symptom chart like it was a checklist. |
| 19:33.57 | Cairenn | yep |
| 19:34.42 | Cairenn | can't speak for anyone else, but I was worried sick about him and the surgery, so really really glad to hear it went well |
| 19:34.54 | Lunessa | Yeah. Jim always seemed to me to be the picture of health too. |
| 19:35.10 | Cairenn | even if it was the "brain proper", still bloody close enough to scare the begezzus out of me |
| 19:35.18 | Cairenn | s/was/wasn't/ |
| 19:35.37 | alestane | From my admittedly limited knowledge, the pituitary is in a delicate spot, but the type of surgery was fairly close to routine. |
| 19:35.44 | Cairenn | nod |
| 19:36.14 | alestane | Of course, I spent the weekend watching videos of ocular surgery and listening to stories of complications. |
| 19:36.34 | Lunessa | alestane: Not helping. |
| 19:37.04 | alestane | So I should know better than to talk like that. Cheers nonetheless. |
| 19:37.29 | alestane | I will share 99% of what I was exposed to the weekend only on deliberate request, Lunessa. |
| 19:39.28 | Thunder_Child | requests |
| 19:40.46 | Lunessa | alestane: Be sure to remind me to talk to you all the way up until they start cutting on my vision correction surgery. |
| 19:41.07 | alestane | Oh? Are you planning something? |
| 19:44.22 | alestane | IOL work? |
| 19:50.50 | Lunessa | alestane: Eventually. Getting sick of wearing glasses. |
| 19:51.20 | alestane | Why, what are your glasses like? |
| 19:52.31 | Thunder_Child | coke bottles |
| 19:53.39 | Lunessa | My prescription is pretty mild, being that I'm only a little near-sighted and have a slight astigmatism in my left eye. But I'm sick of needing them at all, and 20 years is enough. |
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| 19:55.37 | alestane | Not wanting to wear my glasses for driving and computer use would not be enough reason for me to go through the shit I saw. |
| 19:57.00 | alestane | Well, I wear them all the time, but I could do without them for most of the rest. |
| 20:03.17 | Lunessa | alestane: Same here. But my father had it done and it made him very happy to dispense with glasses. My mom has not, because she didn't want anything near her eyes. |
| 20:04.12 | alestane | I will achknowledge that these guys are all about patient quality of life, and they include reliance on spectacles in that. |
| 20:04.24 | NeoTron | alestane: My future is very likely to include one or two cornea transplants, speaking of fun surgery |
| 20:04.54 | Lunessa | Corneal transplants to avoid blindness are a Good Thing. |
| 20:05.10 | NeoTron | but if you're looking for normal corrective eye surgery you might look into intacts |
| 20:05.19 | alestane | Yes, one of the subjects in the Ocular Trauma panel had had one of those. |
| 20:05.20 | NeoTron | safer than lasik and the like, and fully reversible |
| 20:05.24 | alestane | And an IOL implant. |
| 20:05.40 | alestane | Then she got hit in the face with a recoiling bungie cord. |
| 20:06.03 | NeoTron | I've had both lasik and intacts (same eyes naturally) and it was ... more pleasant, relatively speaking |
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| 20:12.04 | alestane | Prize-winning comments heard from patients in the ophthalmology clinic: |
| 20:12.14 | alestane | "My eyes are very important to me." |
| 20:12.22 | alestane | "I use my eyes every day." |
| 20:12.30 | alestane | "I need my eyes for work." |
| 20:12.42 | NeoTron | Lunessa: indeed but it's not making it any less freaky |
| 20:14.55 | Lunessa | alestane: When I couldn't use my hands at the onset of CTS symptoms in the mid-90s I had the same kind of panic about disability that I would get about losing sight or hearing. So, I've faced this terror before and while it's still terrifying, I might be able to deal with it. :) |
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| 20:17.09 | alestane | I would hate to lose my site, but I think losing my hearing would be worse. I could live without movies more easily than music. |
| 20:24.49 | olafski | I'd say losing hearing is a lot less limiting than losing your sight =( |
| 20:25.18 | Arrowmaster | i could live without my hearing but it would be a killer to my gaming habbits, although loss of sight would be worse |
| 20:26.05 | nicoli_s | yah i couldnt live without site |
| 20:26.09 | nicoli_s | i need that to type :P |
| 20:26.30 | Arrowmaster | i tend to just sit quietly and read stuff |
| 20:28.10 | haste | I tend to listen to music while reading stuff |
| 20:28.20 | Thunder_Child | i could live w/o site, but not sight |
| 20:28.25 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:28.25 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13180087933&sid=1 |
| 20:28.51 | haste | then I connect the emotions I spawn while reading to the music |
| 20:29.14 | haste | and thus make the music even better! |
| 20:31.07 | Fisker | graceful loss <3 |
| 20:31.14 | Fisker | a 63 warrior just jumped my 61 mage |
| 20:31.19 | Fisker | then i killed him |
| 20:31.29 | Thunder_Child | haste: i have that, but with games. i now have 'it's my life' forever connected to EQ |
| 20:31.45 | Fisker | 5 minutes later a level 80 jumps into thrallmar, kills me and every guard in sight |
| 20:32.21 | mitchnull | thunder: eew |
| 20:33.07 | Thunder_Child | mitchnull: not so bad, i was enjoying myself then, so it's a good memory |
| 20:33.37 | Lunessa | I can't watch PVP videos - too much Limp Bizkit |
| 20:36.12 | Fisker | you mitchnull |
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| 20:37.20 | haste | Thunder_Child: I'm not able to do it with all music |
| 20:37.30 | haste | Thunder_Child: pretty much limited to ambient and idm |
| 20:42.26 | Fisker | h |
| 20:42.30 | Fisker | a |
| 20:42.33 | mitchnull | fisker: you still on Modern Talking, right? |
| 20:42.33 | zenzelezz | I hate when the mind makes such connections |
| 20:43.05 | haste | I love it tbh :P |
| 20:43.10 | zenzelezz | I have a specific memory of one small scene in Carmageddon 2 that's forever connected to a scene in 90210... for no obvious reason |
| 20:44.16 | zenzelezz | yes, I watched that back then. I was young and needed the money. Stop looking at me like that! |
| 20:45.02 | Fisker | wat mitchnull ? |
| 20:45.19 | mitchnull | meh, kids.. |
| 20:45.22 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 20:45.23 | Shirik | hi |
| 20:45.24 | haste | but now! sleep |
| 20:45.27 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 20:46.08 | Fisker | i hate you haste |
| 20:50.13 | DWSR | Shirik |
| 20:50.27 | DWSR | http://java.pastebin.com/2UUP4mW6 : If I call Test(int field) will I get 1 instance or 2? |
| 20:52.38 | foxlit | DWSR: what kind of madness would make you think two? |
| 20:52.51 | DWSR | foxlit: I know PHP /and/ Perl. |
| 20:52.55 | DWSR | What makes you think I'm entirely sane? |
| 20:53.10 | foxlit | And what would that even mean? It can only return you one instance :) |
| 20:53.31 | DWSR | Right, but that's a constructor. |
| 20:53.48 | zenzelezz | "As noted on superannuation, an organization called Killspace Entertainment has registered a domain called Apocalypsenowgame.com and has also registered Warisnotagame.net, suggesting a game is in the works based on Coppola's classic Vietnam War movie" |
| 20:53.49 | DWSR | So I could be constructing an instance, then calling the default constructor, which for some twisted reason would construct *another* instance. |
| 20:54.03 | zenzelezz | I can picture it... 20 hours sailing up a river, 2 hours captured, 5 minutes killing |
| 20:54.23 | DWSR | It all gets very...meta at that point.\ |
| 20:55.00 | Lunessa | DWSR: You want a cookie and an "I survived the LAMP movement" T-Shirt? |
| 20:55.09 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 20:55.27 | Lunessa | Me too. |
| 20:55.45 | foxlit | Your pattern is kind of backwards, though |
| 20:56.10 | foxlit | Constructors with less arguments should call those with more, not the other way around. |
| 20:56.26 | DWSR | foxlit: I'm editing an existing class. |
| 20:56.26 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:56.29 | Fisker | hello |
| 20:56.30 | foxlit | [And yes, you only ever construct one instance. The language may be out to get you, but not in this fashion] |
| 20:56.32 | DWSR | this prof doesn't understand much of anyything. |
| 20:59.30 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:00.18 | Shirik | DWSR: None of the above |
| 21:00.28 | Shirik | I have no idea wtf you just posted but it's illegal |
| 21:00.35 | Shirik | oh |
| 21:00.37 | Shirik | no I see now |
| 21:00.43 | Shirik | yes you get one |
| 21:01.14 | olafski | a constructor will always get you one instance.. :P |
| 21:01.20 | olafski | unless it throws an exception I guess, if that's possible |
| 21:01.27 | Shirik | it is |
| 21:01.44 | Shirik | and that is the most common cause of memory leaks by novice C++ programmers |
| 21:01.58 | Shirik | well aside from the "I don't give a damn about memory" cause |
| 21:01.58 | DWSR | ~epic fail Shirik |
| 21:01.59 | purl | Shirik, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Shirik, you are that epic failure. |
| 21:02.28 | DWSR | Fuck. |
| 21:02.32 | DWSR | Is 0 false or true in Java? |
| 21:02.35 | DWSR | I can't fucking remember. |
| 21:02.43 | Shirik | it is error: integers are not booleans |
| 21:02.44 | DWSR | MAH PHP SKILLZ BE TELLIN ME FALES |
| 21:02.47 | olafski | it's neither |
| 21:02.49 | olafski | it's 0 :P |
| 21:02.54 | DWSR | Ah, right. |
| 21:02.57 | DWSR | Thanks muchly. |
| 21:03.11 | DWSR | Instantiated variables are true, right? |
| 21:03.15 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:03.22 | Shirik | only booleans are true, period |
| 21:03.23 | olafski | only 'true' is true |
| 21:03.32 | Shirik | (and yes, specifically, only 'true' is true) |
| 21:03.44 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:03.46 | Fisker | you |
| 21:03.48 | Fisker | you you you you |
| 21:03.50 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 21:03.50 | Shirik | me |
| 21:03.52 | Shirik | me me me me |
| 21:04.14 | DWSR | need a oneliner java bot. |
| 21:04.35 | DWSR | int this; if (this) then System.out.print("True"); |
| 21:04.48 | mitchnull | error |
| 21:04.56 | mitchnull | (and not just one :) |
| 21:05.04 | DWSR | ? |
| 21:05.09 | mitchnull | this is reserved |
| 21:05.15 | DWSR | yeah yeah. |
| 21:05.22 | mitchnull | if (0) is not valid |
| 21:05.40 | DWSR | Fucking hate strong typed languages. |
| 21:05.42 | mitchnull | as the guys above told you, only booleans are booleans in java |
| 21:07.40 | mitchnull | oh, and there's no "then" :) |
| 21:08.34 | DWSR | Literalists do it with their genitals. |
| 21:09.01 | Shirik | DWSR: Strong typed languages are win |
| 21:09.10 | Shirik | C++ is a vast improvement over C if not just for its type safety |
| 21:09.30 | DWSR | Shirik: Regardless of what you think, I still dislike them. Strongly. |
| 21:09.34 | Cairenn | ahhh, Jim has posted already: "I am in a hospital room with a whole bunch of characters, that much is sure. I'm feeling well, just tired." |
| 21:09.36 | foxlit | I believe you just put "C++" and "vast improvement" in one sentence |
| 21:09.46 | mitchnull | dwsr: you're sorta unlucky with java :) |
| 21:09.47 | Shirik | I did foxlit, because I only speak the truth |
| 21:09.53 | Jamash | it's true, in C you can only hit yourself in the thumb with a hammer, in C++ you can take off your whole hand with a chainsaw |
| 21:10.07 | Shirik | ^ |
| 21:10.18 | Shirik | C ain't got no chainsaw mofo |
| 21:10.21 | Shirik | chainsaws are objects |
| 21:10.22 | DWSR | Lies. |
| 21:10.28 | zenzelezz | Jamash: if you're going to say that, at least use Strostrup's own words |
| 21:10.36 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:10.37 | Fisker | you |
| 21:10.38 | Lunessa | http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/04/11/please_do_not_change_your_password/ |
| 21:10.59 | Jamash | zenzelezz: ? |
| 21:11.23 | Fisker | Jamash: ? |
| 21:11.39 | zenzelezz | http://www2.research.att.com/~bs/bs_faq.html#really-say-that |
| 21:11.43 | foxlit | okay, how does that page give me a pop-under? |
| 21:12.27 | Shirik | because you don't have google chrome |
| 21:12.33 | Shirik | chrome is all like "nanana I blocked popups lol" |
| 21:12.44 | Fisker | meh Lunessa |
| 21:12.48 | Fisker | that's what i've always said |
| 21:12.51 | olafski | firefox didn't tell me anything |
| 21:12.55 | olafski | no popup either |
| 21:12.59 | Jamash | zenzelezz: didn't actually remember seeing that quote |
| 21:13.03 | Fisker | most compromises are from keyloggers anyway so changing your password is pointless |
| 21:13.54 | Lunessa | Fisker: It's a good article. Especially since I'm one of those "gatekeeper" types here at work and I spend a large part of my day every day dealing with password issues. And I have a conference coming up in a few weeks with this as a topic. So I'm keenly interested. |
| 21:14.12 | Shirik | Lunessa: Interesting |
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| 21:21.58 | Fisker | imma fuck you up Shirik |
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| 21:39.19 | Cidwel | dawww! I spent all the day trying to learn securehandlers, and all the examples I'm viewing is for executing code when a SecureHandlerClickTemplate is clicked. I want to make a frame with a actionbutton to hide and show when I'm in combat. I know that I could make that using widget:Execute but It doesn't work. I've reading the Alestane guide without any result and I don't know why the hell is Caramelldancing |
| 21:39.34 | Cidwel | replaying a lot in my shuffle player |
| 21:39.49 | DWSR | Cide: Frame:Hide(); Frame:Show; ? |
| 21:40.01 | Cide | that's it |
| 21:40.03 | Cidwel | i'm not Cide |
| 21:40.04 | Cide | CHANGE NAME CIDWEL |
| 21:40.05 | Cidwel | >_> |
| 21:40.09 | DWSR | s/Show/Show()/ |
| 21:40.16 | Cide | I would never ask such a simple question, DWSR |
| 21:40.17 | Cide | shame on you |
| 21:40.27 | Cidwel | ... nope that doesn't work |
| 21:40.38 | Cidwel | it only hides when I'm out in combat |
| 21:40.51 | Jamash | secure handlers baffle and confuse me |
| 21:41.31 | DWSR | Cidwel: Take a look at SUF or Bartender to see how they do it. |
| 21:41.55 | Cidwel | I'll check them |
| 21:50.37 | Fisker | HURR HURR |
| 21:50.53 | Fisker | "We didn't pick paladin last because we hate them or because they need the most work" |
| 21:51.04 | Fisker | "We haven't torn up the paladin talent trees in earnest yet, so the preview will likely be heavy on design intent and light on details." |
| 21:51.06 | DWSR | We picked them because of the QQ shitfest. |
| 21:51.09 | Fisker | *sad trombone* |
| 21:51.53 | Lunessa | "...faster than ret paladins can storm the forums after a nerf." |
| 21:52.43 | Fisker | huh? |
| 21:53.13 | Lunessa | That was the CEO of Blizzard at BlizzCon 2009 describe how fast tickets sold out. |
| 21:53.25 | Fisker | sweet |
| 21:53.29 | foxlit | "Cidwel: I want to make a frame with a actionbutton to hide and show when I'm in combat." << easy :) |
| 21:54.01 | Lunessa | So, it's not like Blizzard doesn't know the shit-storm of QQ that will happen no matter what they do to paladins other than give the 12" cocks and an "I fucking win" button. |
| 21:54.02 | Fisker | nothing like dissing people out of spite for your own failure :) |
| 21:54.30 | Jamash | ret was like that during wrath beta |
| 21:54.33 | DWSR | ^ |
| 21:54.37 | Lunessa | I know. |
| 21:54.39 | foxlit | Cidwel: but what you actually need is a secure state driver, since you need some way to tell the restricted environment you're in combat. |
| 21:54.40 | foxlit | See http://www.wowwiki.com/SecureStateDriver |
| 21:55.07 | Lunessa | And I routinely raid with a ret paladin who dishes out so much damage it makes me rage with envy. |
| 21:55.29 | Cidwel | I'll check that foxlit many thanks :D |
| 21:56.05 | foxlit | It's the last example on that page that's probably most interesting to you; you'd just have to adjust it to use a "[combat] combat; nocombat" type of conditional |
| 21:56.12 | Fisker | pretty sure you've misinterpretted the goals of the competent players right there Lunessa |
| 21:56.34 | Lunessa | Fisker: It's not the competent ones who QQ up the forums. |
| 21:57.13 | Fisker | i'm not sure how unintelligent whining applies to any discussion here |
| 21:57.43 | Fisker | Fact still is that Blizzard were well informed about paladins and decided against the community to go ahead with it |
| 21:58.00 | Lunessa | Se DWSR's comment that I riffed on. |
| 21:58.11 | Fisker | And did so in a mannner that didn't fix the issue, and when it finally did, 3-4 other nerfs had hit which were irrelevant, but never actually removed again |
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| 22:06.03 | Cidwel | um foxlit, the condition I want my frame to do is to show when I'm pressing left shift, even in combat. Is SecureStateDriver the way to do that? The code I'm using in a simple <OnUpdate> works fine except when I'm in combat, that today I knew that hiding a frame that inherits from a secureActionButton is protected |
| 22:06.27 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 22:06.38 | foxlit | On the bonus side, you won't have to bother with onupdate |
| 22:07.24 | Cidwel | wow! that's better, I was starting to care with that >_> |
| 22:08.37 | Cidwel | [mod:shift]show;hide bwhoohoo |
| 22:08.48 | foxlit | You can even do [mod:lshift] |
| 22:08.56 | Cidwel | haha better |
| 22:09.10 | foxlit | Does it work, then? |
| 22:09.17 | Cidwel | I'm trying it >_> |
| 22:09.27 | Cide | Shirik: wanna play? |
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| 22:12.51 | sioraiocht | Cairenn: |
| 22:12.53 | sioraiocht | Cairenn: Just wanted to let you et al know that Jim is fine |
| 22:12.58 | sioraiocht | and his surgery went swimmingly |
| 22:13.08 | Cairenn | been following the tweets/fb feed and passing them along |
| 22:13.12 | Cairenn | but thank you! |
| 22:13.15 | sioraiocht | but have been up for tooo many hours, now, so good night! =) |
| 22:13.22 | Cairenn | get some sleep |
| 22:13.25 | Cairenn | love to both of you |
| 22:13.30 | sioraiocht | thanks, you too =) |
| 22:14.54 | alestane | What you're looking for is a condition like RegisterStateDriver(frame, "visibility", "[nocombat][mod:lshift] show; hide"), Cidwel. |
| 22:15.24 | foxlit | nothing magical about "visibility", I think. |
| 22:15.59 | alestane | If you register it for "visibility", the state driver will show or hide it rather than setting an attribute. |
| 22:16.01 | alestane | Cone. |
| 22:16.05 | alestane | Er, done* |
| 22:16.26 | foxlit | Hm, it cheats. But yeah. |
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| 22:16.56 | Cidwel | many thanks aleastane, I'll check that |
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| 22:18.44 | alestane | I'm am hoping to get support in Catacylesm for setting any attribute in response to state changes, and not just attributes that start with "state-". |
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| 22:20.04 | alestane | It will make my smart targeting addon concept much easier to write. |
| 22:20.25 | foxlit | It's a 4-line workaround at worst |
| 22:21.43 | foxlit | [Get a snippet to set the stateid = newstate attribute in response to the state-stateid update] |
| 22:26.44 | alestane | Yes, but it's a whole other layer of response to write. |
| 22:27.08 | Adys | Shirik |
| 22:27.09 | Adys | http://www.labandepasdessinee.com/bpd/324-les-medecins-nous-prennent-ils-pour-des-cons |
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| 22:27.12 | alestane | In response to changing an attribute, change a different attribute to the same value. |
| 22:27.18 | alestane | Waste of time. |
| 22:27.38 | alestane | Also requires using more templates. |
| 22:28.02 | foxlit | Yes yes, all that. |
| 22:28.11 | Fisker | Blizzard should invent some kind of looting system for raids that work just like the one you get in random groups |
| 22:28.21 | Fisker | if only they did that, we would be rid of ninjas forever! |
| 22:28.53 | foxlit | Needs more exciting new features, though :) |
| 22:33.54 | Lunessa | I think Blizzard just needs to deliver a new and exciting loot system - every time a boss of a difficulty of X dies, a small electrical current is run through the pleasure center of your brain. They can then scale the difficulty of encounters to encourage you to raid only harder and harder content. |
| 22:34.31 | Lunessa | How's that for "new and exciting"? |
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| 22:35.19 | alestane | Yes yes. I'm also trying to get secure timeouts. So if you want to help, think of how people could abuse that and how it can be prevented while still granting useful functionality. |
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| 22:45.08 | alestane | Here's my current hope...register a frame to set an attribute or run a bit of code after a certain amount of time has elapsed. The catch is that if there's user input, such as clicking a frame or pressing a key, one of two things has to happen. Either the timer has to run out immediately, or it has to be restarted. |
| 22:45.08 | alestane | Also, it can't be informed how much actual time has passed. |
| 22:45.31 | alestane | If that sounds tasty, foxlit, try and figure out if you could abuse it into a reliable cooldown timer in combat. |
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| 22:51.17 | Kraps | heya |
| 22:51.59 | alestane | Oh, and you pick which of those two behaviors applies to the timer when you create it. |
| 22:52.11 | Guest79200 | lame |
| 22:52.56 | alestane | I don't have to take that coming from Batman. |
| 22:54.55 | Thunder_Child | kraps you fail |
| 22:55.19 | Guest3-14 | what why |
| 22:56.09 | Lunessa | I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve. |
| 22:56.40 | Fisker | heh this is rich |
| 22:57.03 | Fisker | This guy seems to think there's a part in the ToU that states Blizzard is obligated to sort out a mistake that happened at no mistake of his own |
| 22:57.11 | Thunder_Child | guess |
| 22:57.20 | Fisker | Of course that assistance would be to take an item from a person who got an item through no mistake of their own |
| 22:57.30 | Fisker | So this imaginary ToU is apparently only valid to himself |
| 22:57.42 | Fisker | for himself* |
| 22:57.48 | Fisker | hurrdurr |
| 23:00.38 | Guest3-14 | Thunder_Child: |
| 23:00.47 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: |
| 23:01.44 | Lunessa | Fisker: Don't you understand? The terms of use are "GIMME IT, IT'S MINE!" |
| 23:02.34 | Fisker | i'm so disappointed |
| 23:02.46 | Fisker | The GM managed to closed it off before i got a post in though |
| 23:03.07 | Fisker | I was about to "Problem officer? :3" his personal attacks |
| 23:07.23 | Lunessa | This is the shift that never ends. |
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| 23:09.50 | alestane | It just goes on and on, my friend? |
| 23:10.02 | Kraps | dammit, stole my line |
| 23:14.12 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 23:14.21 | Shirik | 3 weeks ago I was assigned a presentation that I gave last thursday |
| 23:14.30 | Shirik | I started it the thursday of the presentation |
| 23:14.34 | Thunder_Child | ""pretty close" will be defined by players as "nobody should ever beat me, irrespective of encounter, gear or my own personal button mashing routine."" i loled |
| 23:14.40 | Shirik | Email: |
| 23:14.43 | Shirik | Matt, |
| 23:14.43 | Shirik | You received a score of 400 (out of 400) on your April 8 topic presentation |
| 23:14.43 | Shirik | in SE555 on Aspect-Oriented Software - good job. |
| 23:15.04 | Fisker | Your name isn't matt |
| 23:15.09 | Fisker | IT'S DEL BUONO |
| 23:15.20 | Thunder_Child | actually, isnt it matthew? |
| 23:15.21 | Gintaro | Isn't it CowboyNeil? |
| 23:15.25 | Fisker | yes Thunder_Child |
| 23:15.53 | Shirik | it is matthew |
| 23:16.06 | Shirik | I respond to both |
| 23:16.20 | Fisker | the world is on fire |
| 23:16.28 | Thunder_Child | ok, mat matthew del bunono |
| 23:16.37 | Shirik | I do not respond to mat |
| 23:16.44 | DWSR | Shirik. |
| 23:16.47 | DWSR | ~whalenuke |
| 23:16.49 | Thunder_Child | but you are one |
| 23:16.56 | Shirik | however, I do have a mat outside my apartment door that says "Hi, I'm mat." |
| 23:16.57 | DWSR | Use it. |
| 23:16.59 | DWSR | You can has the power. |
| 23:17.22 | Shirik | oh also Thunder_Child |
| 23:17.25 | Shirik | this lens is awesome |
| 23:17.30 | Shirik | its AF is lightning fast |
| 23:17.51 | Lunessa | Shirik: I hate having my name misspelled by using only one 't.' |
| 23:18.01 | Shirik | Lunessa, exactly |
| 23:18.06 | Shirik | however, on a welcome mat it's hilarious |
| 23:18.12 | Lunessa | Yes, it is. |
| 23:18.58 | Fisker | buononoono |
| 23:18.59 | Cide | wait what? |
| 23:19.06 | Cide | there is no 't' in 'Lunessa' |
| 23:19.10 | Lunessa | "# We are planning to remove spells that don't have a clear purpose. Amplify Magic, Dampen Magic, Fire Ward, and Frost Ward are being removed from the game, and we may remove more. " - It's about time. |
| 23:19.22 | Shirik | Cide: Hence why it is annoying when it is spelled with 1 t |
| 23:19.26 | Lunessa | Cide: My real name is "Matt" shot for Matthew. |
| 23:19.36 | Shirik | everyone in this channel is named Matt didn't you know that? |
| 23:20.02 | Lunessa | Not everyone, just some of the most obnoxiously prolific speakers. |
| 23:20.03 | Cide | oic |
| 23:20.11 | Cide | my name is Matt-ew |
| 23:20.27 | Thunder_Child | someone needs to make this for blizzcon http://luxirare.com/float/ |
| 23:20.32 | Gintaro | My name is in the new spelling, Madt |
| 23:20.42 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: i thought you werent getting it till tomorrow |
| 23:20.54 | Shirik | UPS rescheduled to today for whatever reason |
| 23:20.59 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 23:21.02 | Thunder_Child | sweet |
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| 23:21.17 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: OMFG - Pie pops |
| 23:21.24 | Thunder_Child | yes Lunessa, fucking win |
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| 23:21.48 | Lunessa | How to keep from eating the whole batch? |
| 23:21.59 | Thunder_Child | make more than you can eat at once? |
| 23:22.14 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: That would be FAIL |
| 23:22.29 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: how is that? |
| 23:22.36 | Fisker | I wouldn't cry if they removed turn evil, hand of sacrifice, hand of salvation, and seal of justice, wisdom, light and judgement of justice |
| 23:22.37 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Impossible. |
| 23:22.39 | Lunessa | I can eat a LOT |
| 23:22.42 | Fisker | do not want. |
| 23:22.49 | Thunder_Child | so make more than 'a lot' |
| 23:22.50 | DWSR | Fisker: Removing Turn Evil would be nice. |
| 23:23.08 | Fisker | though of course they need a "snare" to replace judgement of justice |
| 23:23.34 | Thunder_Child | maybe peppy will make some for us. |
| 23:23.49 | Thunder_Child | and by 'us' i mean everyone but me and Fisker. |
| 23:24.51 | Fisker | i don't want cookies |
| 23:25.03 | Fisker | or whatever we were talking about |
| 23:25.04 | Fisker | :P |
| 23:25.05 | Thunder_Child | so dont get cookies |
| 23:25.34 | Lunessa | # The Burnout talent will allow mages to cast spells using health when they run out of mana. Magic has a price. A terrible price! MUWAHAHAHA! |
| 23:25.52 | Thunder_Child | yes, mages, the new locks |
| 23:26.14 | Lunessa | I expect to see a lot of mages asking "rez plx" at the end of every battle. |
| 23:26.39 | Thunder_Child | well, fire mages anyway |
| 23:27.29 | Lunessa | I expect for the first 4-6 weeks of the Xpac, Fire will be the new "Flavor" |
| 23:28.28 | Thunder_Child | FFB spec does more dmg for me right now than arcane |
| 23:28.38 | DWSR | You obviously don't faceroll hard enough |
| 23:28.59 | DWSR | If you don't get over 9000 APM with Arcane, you're doing it wrong. |
| 23:29.17 | Kraps | i found it! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0213847/ |
| 23:29.30 | tem|afk | Actions per minute, DWSR? |
| 23:30.12 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: i can but then i have no mana |
| 23:30.17 | DWSR | tem|afk: mhm. |
| 23:30.23 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: EVOCATION, NUKKA PLZ. |
| 23:30.56 | tem|afk | When I watch replays of people just spamming clicks in the first 5 minutes to get a high APM I wonder what kind of pcp they took |
| 23:31.11 | Thunder_Child | rather not /Have/ to Evo every 2 min |
| 23:31.18 | DWSR | tem|afk: They're just people who play Arcane mages in WoW. |
| 23:31.23 | DWSR | Keyboard, meet face? |
| 23:31.27 | tem|afk | it's a pretty large dps loss |
| 23:31.27 | DWSR | facerolls. |
| 23:33.07 | Lunessa | Kraps: It surprises me that you like that sort of movie. |
| 23:33.26 | Kraps | like is a strong term |
| 23:33.33 | DWSR | Your mom is a strong term. |
| 23:33.47 | Lunessa | My term is a strong mom. |
| 23:34.14 | Kraps | i saw it once in a hospital and ive wanted to know what it was called since then |
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| 23:42.34 | Kraps | Lunessa: you saw it? |
| 23:43.09 | Lunessa | No, but I watch movies in a similar vein. And it has Monica Bellucci in it. *salacious eyebrow waggle* |
| 23:43.40 | Kraps | its quite hawt |
| 23:44.02 | Lunessa | I like a pretty wide range of films, so ... |
| 23:48.22 | Kraps | why does imdb zip along while rotten tomatoes feels like it's building something every pageload? |
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| 23:49.34 | DWSR | Caching. |
| 23:50.11 | Kraps | cant believe Man on Fire got 39% :o |
| 23:50.18 | Lunessa | Rotten Tomatoes hasn't paid Akami big money? |
| 23:50.22 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:50.26 | WobWork | VS2010 release |
| 23:50.31 | Kraps | critics suck |
| 23:50.32 | WobWork | I hope we adopt it soon =P |
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| 23:54.29 | Gintaro | hmmm, strawberry cheesecake icecream |
| 23:56.31 | Thunder_Child | quite tasty |
| 23:58.40 | WobWork | Shirik: http://blogs.atlassian.com/news/2010/04/oh_man_what_a_day_an_update_on_our_security_breach.html |
| 23:58.56 | Shirik | WobWork: You saw my earlier link ya? |
