| 00:02.31 | Cide | considering the fact that it takes 2^k permutations for the first segment |
| 00:03.16 | Cide | we have (2^k)/2 versions that contain a specific digit in a specific location |
| 00:06.39 | Cide | but for every specific digit we need to guarantee that there exists an opening string for (n-k):(k-1) |
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| 00:20.09 | Cide | nah, the algorithm doesn't work |
| 00:34.16 | foxlit | Thinking is hard. |
| 00:34.17 | foxlit | [[0, 0, 0, 0], [0, 0, 1, 1], [0, 1, 0, 1], [1, 0, 0, 1], [1, 1, 1, 0]] |
| 00:34.41 | foxlit | ^ So I got a machine to do it. Supposingly, that's the universal key for 4 switches of which 2 matter. |
| 00:35.07 | NeoTron | so here's a question for you - do you think there can be another world of warcraft, i.e an mmorpg with the same success? |
| 00:36.14 | NeoTron | since people expect a newly launched game to have the level of content WoW has now |
| 00:36.23 | foxlit | It's a bit odd that it's only 5 |
| 00:36.29 | NeoTron | or even just the level of content vanilla WoW had when BC launched |
| 00:37.33 | Dagmar | Sure. |
| 00:38.12 | Dagmar | Just as soon as some company manages to make three incredibly popular games with coherent storylines in a row which are compatible with an MMO conversion |
| 00:38.53 | Dagmar | People keep forgetting that part of the reason we all dogpiled onto WoW was that we were champing at the bit for more, following Warcraft, Warcraft II, Warcraft III and Frozen Throne |
| 00:39.51 | NeoTron | I can tell you for a fact that is definitely not true universally |
| 00:40.01 | Dagmar | ...but so long as companies keep making games with storylines about as deep as something you'd expect from the bargain bin at Dollar General, they'll keep failing to even break even |
| 00:40.14 | NeoTron | I had never played, or really heard anything about, warcraft, warcraft 2, warcraft 3 or the frozen throne |
| 00:40.26 | Dagmar | There's plenty of ways to make a game, but not nearly as many ways to make people want to play it |
| 00:40.36 | NeoTron | and I bet a lot of the people, likely a majority, are in the same bucket |
| 00:40.56 | NeoTron | also people look at the past through foggy glasses seeing things that weren't there |
| 00:41.03 | Dagmar | I think you'd be mistaken about the number of people who bought WoW at or around release time who had played the previous games |
| 00:41.11 | ArrowmasterClass | maybe a lot of the day one players were from previous warcraft games, but im getting the majority of current players have never even heard of previous warcraft games |
| 00:41.16 | NeoTron | end game content wise wow at launch had two level 60 5 mans, and a level 60 15 man |
| 00:41.27 | Dagmar | So what |
| 00:41.43 | NeoTron | people expect what wow gives today in a brand new game vs what wow had in the past |
| 00:42.02 | Dagmar | That doesn't necessarily mean private instances |
| 00:42.20 | NeoTron | mind you what wow did have was a 1-60 experience that had two factions with more than one path to get from 1 to 60 (even if it narrowed the closer to 60 you got) |
| 00:42.24 | Dagmar | It defintely didnt' help EQII much |
| 00:43.11 | NeoTron | and people also forget what a clusterfuck WoW was at launch and on and off for a long time (and heck, still is sometimes even if it's rare nowadays) |
| 00:43.28 | Dagmar | That's another "so what" |
| 00:43.37 | NeoTron | not at all |
| 00:43.41 | Dagmar | I was in closed beta. I remember all of it quite clearly. |
| 00:43.51 | NeoTron | closed beta was fine |
| 00:44.06 | Dagmar | There is a point you can not predict what load your servers will take, and when *ALL* your beta keys go out in an eyeblink, you're looking at it |
| 00:44.30 | Dagmar | They were hoping to gauge demand based on those, and they _all_ went out and they had to guess |
| 00:44.31 | NeoTron | WoW didn't have an open beta either for that matter. IT was selective although rather large (and a short period of time) |
| 00:45.02 | NeoTron | you're missing my point though. We know wow failed to have a smooth launch because they totally underestimated demand by one or two orders of magnitude |
| 00:45.03 | Dagmar | They did at least very clearly get on the phone with their hardware vendor and start screaming "SEND MORE SERVERS NAO" |
| 00:45.23 | NeoTron | but the problem is, any game that launches today and has issues is dissed badly often with WoW comparisions |
| 00:45.28 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Yes and that failure is in stark opposition to every other MMO that had come out previous and most that have come out since |
| 00:45.38 | Dagmar | THOSE MMO's crashed like hell during the first week becuase they were far from ready |
| 00:45.51 | NeoTron | cause doesn't matter to the end user |
| 00:45.51 | Dagmar | They were just plain unstable to begin with. |
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| 00:46.44 | Dagmar | Games that launch today get dissed because largely they *still* insist on setting a deadline for release first, and stability/playability milestones second. |
| 00:46.52 | Dagmar | Blizzard didn't do that. |
| 00:47.07 | Dagmar | Vivendi was nail-bitingly patient over it |
| 00:49.00 | Dagmar | Regardless of how "limited" the vanilla WoW content was at release, it was still a) at least as expansive as everything else, and b) it was actually playable through that |
| 00:49.24 | Dagmar | Champions Trek Online, far from complete |
| 00:50.26 | Dagmar | Matrix Online was still just barely one step above rock, paper, scissors for combat |
| 00:50.48 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 00:51.17 | NeoTron | basically champions online was level 1 to 40, in a linear fashion, with a play duration similar to vanilla wow 1-40 |
| 00:51.20 | Dagmar | Conan's client was hellishly slow if you were anywhere near the "minimum" requirements |
| 00:51.25 | NeoTron | so that gives you an idea of the amount of content |
| 00:51.32 | NeoTron | 1-40, single faction, mind you |
| 00:51.35 | Dagmar | I played CO. |
| 00:52.01 | Dagmar | THeir narrators made me want to drive to their offices with a cricket bat and a microphone |
| 00:52.07 | NeoTron | what really amazes me is how fucking retarded game company/publishing execs must be |
| 00:52.13 | NeoTron | not to realize that you can't push shit our early |
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| 00:52.32 | Dagmar | They're in it for breaking even, not to make a game they'd want to play |
| 00:52.35 | NeoTron | 90% of all mmorpgs fail due to being not ready |
| 00:52.39 | NeoTron | most likely |
| 00:53.24 | Dagmar | CO could have _really_ stood to add a special camera mode similar to Final Fantasy combat |
| 00:53.41 | Dagmar | Once you got to the areas that were nothing like flat, it became a massive pain to see if you were near anyone |
| 00:53.53 | NeoTron | I was ranged dps |
| 00:54.00 | NeoTron | I actually really found it to be fun |
| 00:54.09 | NeoTron | I didn't ever pay a monthly fee, and got about a months play out of it |
| 00:54.18 | NeoTron | so for a non-sub game, it was a great value to me |
| 00:54.20 | Dagmar | I had an army of bots. I thought it was a fun game, but Lemuria and what came after pissed me off to no end |
| 00:54.45 | NeoTron | lemuria was the last zone level-wise. I guess intermixed with monster island but alas |
| 00:54.56 | NeoTron | Monster Island I thought was fine but the whole underwater thing didn't work |
| 00:54.57 | Dagmar | The pathing was still nuts, and the rubberbanding was just inexcusable |
| 00:55.38 | Dagmar | I'm still trying to figure out where Warhammer shot themselves in the foot |
| 00:55.41 | NeoTron | for two reasons - lemuria has technical issues to no end (rubber banding and shit) and a lot of it just was broken (higher ratio of buggy quests). Performance was bad too. Also it was totally and amazingly confusing overall |
| 00:56.02 | DWSR | Let's face it. |
| 00:56.10 | NeoTron | a true 3d environment is challenging and of course makes the space in which to find something be three dimensional |
| 00:56.10 | DWSR | The WoW kool-aid tastes the best. |
| 00:56.15 | Dagmar | I *know* where LoTR shot themselves... Every time they left a glaring bug in place. |
| 00:56.18 | DWSR | That's not to say that it tastes good, it's just better than everything else. |
| 00:56.29 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/A_winrar_is_you |
| 00:56.37 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Yeah but their client was simply not up to handling a fully 3D area |
| 00:56.53 | NeoTron | I suspect it was largely the server |
| 00:57.03 | Dagmar | It's got to be able to represent the information about the virtual environment to the user in a manner that's meaningful, i.e., they need to be able to see what's around them |
| 00:57.24 | DWSR | lies. |
| 00:57.25 | NeoTron | I'd say it was a failed experiment in something innovative |
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| 00:57.30 | DWSR | You ever played wow with the farclip tuned to minimum? |
| 00:57.34 | Dagmar | I spent far too much time in Lemuria just tab-targeting, and watching which way my bots ran off |
| 00:57.56 | NeoTron | heh. /target <named mob /follow |
| 00:57.57 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut |
| 00:58.02 | NeoTron | I did that quite a bit |
| 00:58.04 | Dagmar | Without shadows or any other such hints, you were pretty much in the dark about how far mobs were from you |
| 00:58.10 | NeoTron | agreed |
| 00:58.38 | NeoTron | I think the intro mission was ok - sufficiently limited to not be crazy |
| 00:58.58 | NeoTron | they should have made the zone itself be almost entirely inside though - maybe with travel from A to B mixed in for some variation |
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| 00:59.33 | Kraps | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303411604575167981034196978.html?mod=WSJ_latestheadlines |
| 01:00.37 | Dagmar | Kraps: Yeah now I have to break out my old anomalous traffic code again |
| 01:01.34 | Dagmar | I still don't believe what they were claiming about they'd misconfigured Sandvine. I think it's attacking pretty much anything that wasn't web traffic was quite deliberate |
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| 01:02.25 | Dagmar | I fully expect they'll go back to MITM attacks any day now |
| 01:03.19 | ArrowmasterClass | do they still even have sandvine? |
| 01:08.50 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut |
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| 02:13.25 | Kaelten | ugh, anyone able to point out that http://www.wow-europe.com/realmstatus/index.xml blows up when parsed |
| 02:16.20 | Wobin | I read an article about resto shamans addons on Wow.com |
| 02:16.33 | Wobin | and I -want- to comment about recommending FreeBGrid... |
| 02:16.37 | Wobin | but... it's wow.com |
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| 02:21.10 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 02:21.17 | Cairenn | cuddles Sargeras |
| 02:21.35 | Sargeras | <--- using the webchat for freenode, Trillian is MIA atm |
| 02:21.37 | Sargeras | hi! |
| 02:22.07 | Sargeras | pokes Dolby |
| 02:23.45 | dolby | ouch |
| 02:23.53 | Sargeras | there he is |
| 02:25.04 | dolby | pokes Sargeras with a hot iron |
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| 02:45.53 | DWSR | What stats are you supposed to gem for a combat rogue? Straight agi? |
| 02:46.43 | Kraps | oh snap http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/death-knights-will-tank-as-blood-in-cataclysm/ |
| 02:47.01 | ZorbaTHut | from what I understand, combat rogue is "go get a spreadsheet" |
| 02:47.28 | Wobin | Kraps, woah |
| 02:47.30 | Wobin | there's a change |
| 02:47.36 | ZorbaTHut | keep in mind that agi for rogues is, as I understand it, essentially equivalent to a half-ap half-crit gem, with some extra dodge and armor attached |
| 02:47.51 | ZorbaTHut | except that the agi crit doesn't count for poison crit, whereas pure crit does |
| 02:47.54 | Wobin | "We're changing the Death Knight to match warriors and Paladins!" |
| 02:48.01 | DWSR | Fuck that. |
| 02:48.15 | DWSR | That's Bs. |
| 02:48.19 | DWSR | I enjoy my DW tanking. |
| 02:48.20 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, yeah, it's a good explanation of why they're doing it, and one I can't really argue with |
| 02:48.30 | ZorbaTHut | it was a pretty neat experiment but I agree it does not seem to have panned out |
| 02:48.41 | Wobin | "We thought it might be nice to have an original tanking class, but found we couldn't" |
| 02:48.57 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, I don't think that's what they're getting at |
| 02:49.01 | Wobin | "So we're renaming DEath Knights to Palawarriors" |
| 02:49.19 | DWSR | ^ |
| 02:49.28 | ZorbaTHut | what they're saying is "it's nasty to have a talent tree that does two thoroughly different things, especially when there isn't a form lockout involved" |
| 02:49.45 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, that's the farking point. It's nice to be a hybrid but not a hybrid. |
| 02:49.48 | DWSR | HELLO |
| 02:49.49 | ZorbaTHut | and double-especially with the new Mastery system |
| 02:49.54 | DWSR | I WANT TO DUAL WIELD MY WEAPONS, KTHX |
| 02:50.06 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, sure, you want to be a special snowflake. turns out special snowflakes are hard to balance for. |
| 02:50.06 | DWSR | There's a reason I had *two* tank specs. |
| 02:50.13 | Dashkal | Eh, the design is pretty good, it just requires too much dev time. And unfortunately it also conflicts with the design for mastery. |
| 02:50.21 | ZorbaTHut | I mean seriously, they pretty much mention that they were considering doing the same thing with warrior and paladin |
| 02:50.28 | Dashkal | DWSR: DW Tanking is not decided either way yet. |
| 02:50.32 | ZorbaTHut | one way or another, death knights weren't going to be special snowflakes in 4.0 |
| 02:50.42 | DWSR | Dashkal: Yeah, but they're "moving the cool tanking talents into blood" |
| 02:50.50 | DWSR | Dashkal: My money's on them not allowing blood to be DW tanks. |
| 02:51.06 | DWSR | Happy they're removing blood as DPS though |
| 02:51.12 | kd3 | points to the thread |
| 02:51.16 | ZorbaTHut | as a side note I think it's hilarious that they're making blood the tanking tree, not frost |
| 02:51.25 | ZorbaTHut | now all those people yelling about how "frost is the tanking tree!" will be *even more confused* |
| 02:51.38 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yeah. |
| 02:51.41 | ZorbaTHut | and stances. oh man. I hope they just swap blood presence and frost presence otherwise it's going to be a clusterfuck of hilarity |
| 02:51.45 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 02:52.14 | DWSR | I would really like to see them remove the stupid shit where you presence gets removed when you swap specs with improved x presence. |
| 02:52.21 | DWSR | s/you/your/ |
| 02:52.32 | ZorbaTHut | eh, could be worse. there are a few ways where warriors can end up stanceless |
| 02:52.42 | ZorbaTHut | and warriors actually get locked out of a bunch of abilities that way |
| 02:53.18 | Kraps | HEY GUS WHATS UR EMAIL http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/new-recruit-a-friend-mount-coming-soon/ |
| 02:53.22 | DWSR | Yeah, but not being in Defensive stances doesn't mean you will immediately get squishied by a boss. |
| 02:53.33 | DWSR | Whereas not being in FrPr will. |
| 02:53.46 | ZorbaTHut | true, though it certainly helps |
| 02:54.02 | ZorbaTHut | personally I just go over my buff/stance checklist whenever I swap specs though |
| 02:54.04 | Kraps | lol pallies http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/cataclysm-class-information-coming!/ |
| 02:54.33 | Kraps | OMG THERE ARE SO MANNY POSTS |
| 02:54.39 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: OH, btw. |
| 02:54.45 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I have 95 Frost badges. |
| 02:54.48 | Kraps | Rage Normalization in Cataclysm; Upcoming Cataclysm Dispel Mechanics |
| 02:54.52 | DWSR | I'm looking at what to spend them on. |
| 02:54.56 | ZorbaTHut | paladin changes: we have decided to turn paladins into small squirrels |
| 02:54.58 | DWSR | I was thinking of getting the T10 healm. |
| 02:55.03 | ZorbaTHut | hopefully this will result in paladins finally being balanced |
| 02:55.16 | ZorbaTHut | to counteract the small squirrel form, we have given paladins a spell that kills anything instantly |
| 02:55.24 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: They'd better turn WotN into AD on crack. That's all I have to say. |
| 02:55.25 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I have no idea. Spreadsheet it :D |
| 02:56.26 | ZorbaTHut | man I absolutely love the rage changes they're making |
| 02:56.29 | ZorbaTHut | maybe rage will not be stupid anymore |
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| 02:57.13 | DWSR | http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t40739-dw_tanking_builds_3_3_updated_12_01_10_a/p31/#post1610264 <--- bwhuuuu? |
| 02:57.47 | DWSR | There is so much wrong with that post I can't even begin to calculate it. |
| 02:58.45 | Jerub | okay, i have to say something. |
| 02:58.58 | Cairenn | "something" |
| 02:59.12 | Jerub | this is fanfic, which i never read, and harry potter, who i don't care about, and i found this via an unrelated and entirely respectable website. |
| 02:59.15 | Jerub | but god it's funny |
| 02:59.21 | Jerub | http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5782108/1/ |
| 02:59.51 | DWSR | TL;DR |
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| 03:04.23 | Kraps | Two changes we're considering are combining all food and drink into food+drink and getting rid of the five-second rule in exchange for an out of combat rule. We're going to start talking a lot more about Cataclysm changes soon. |
| 03:05.56 | Arathros | anyone know a reliable torrent site. |
| 03:06.03 | DWSR | yes. |
| 03:06.05 | DWSR | Many, in faact. |
| 03:06.08 | Arathros | thpiratebay is banned from my isp and kickass is gone |
| 03:06.09 | DWSR | What are you looking for? |
| 03:06.20 | Arathros | dragon age origins custom mod 2 |
| 03:06.25 | Dashkal | tor to get at tpb anyway? |
| 03:06.28 | DWSR | ^ |
| 03:06.36 | DWSR | Not currently a member at a software tracker. |
| 03:06.53 | ZorbaTHut | I like how a lot of cataclysm comes down to "hey, you know those bits of the game that are terrible? let's get rid of them" |
| 03:06.58 | ZorbaTHut | "hmmm . . . hmmmmm, yeah, let's do that" |
| 03:07.27 | Dashkal | The theme definitely seems to be "Lets do this over again with the lessions we learned." |
| 03:07.29 | DWSR | Except for the whole DK tanking thing. |
| 03:07.41 | ZorbaTHut | dashkal, weapon skill gone |
| 03:07.43 | ZorbaTHut | thank fuckin' god |
| 03:07.44 | DWSR | That's "Let's get rid of this really awesome bit of the game" |
| 03:07.59 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, "let's get rid of this arguably neat but wholly impractical bit of the game" |
| 03:08.04 | Jerub | Arathros: superfundo is good for dvd releases. |
| 03:08.25 | Dashkal | ZorbaTHut: I cheered out loud at that one |
| 03:08.33 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: "Let's get rid of this really neat and totally practical part of the game because we're freaking lazy. |
| 03:08.36 | Jerub | "let's stop idiots from equiping a new weapon and then training it in dungeons" |
| 03:08.40 | DWSR | You could easily do things with mastery. |
| 03:08.53 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I strongly disagree that it's practical. I think it would have ended up overcomplicated and relatively uninteresting |
| 03:08.59 | Dashkal | DWSR: You (might) lose your preferred tanking method. I lost my preferred DPS method. *shrugs* C'est la vie. Still good for the game. |
| 03:09.01 | Jerub | it's not a game dynamic. |
| 03:09.02 | ZorbaTHut | the only thing it really accomplished was giving DKs six specs |
| 03:09.04 | ZorbaTHut | that's it |
| 03:09.11 | Jerub | oh, wait, dks. |
| 03:09.16 | Jerub | i thought you were talking about weapon skills :P |
| 03:09.22 | ZorbaTHut | and they were relatively non-diverse specs at that |
| 03:09.46 | Dashkal | I hands down preferred blood DPS to any other spec I've played (of DK, Warlock, Druid). I'll survive. |
| 03:10.56 | Dashkal | Now I'm pondering weather I want to go DW frost or 2H Unholy. Or jsut be a stubborn prat and try to DPS as blood anyway with some bizarro scrub spec. |
| 03:11.28 | DWSR | Dashkal: Blood DPS was boring as tits. |
| 03:11.40 | DWSR | Heart Strike to infinity. |
| 03:11.41 | Dashkal | Subjective statement is subjective. |
| 03:12.07 | DWSR | Dashkal: Obviously. You can't argue with how simple it is, though |
| 03:12.46 | DWSR | IT-PS-DS-SPAM HEARTSTRIKE UNTIL YOUR DISEASES FALL OFF |
| 03:12.54 | DWSR | Rinse. Repeat. |
| 03:13.09 | DWSR | Almost as bad as the Arcane mage rotation |
| 03:13.18 | ZorbaTHut | dashkal, I'd wait until cataclysm. I would highly expect for the majority of rotations to end up different anyway |
| 03:13.35 | Dashkal | ZorbaTHut: Of course. I'm going to stick to Blood DPS as long as I can P |
| 03:13.47 | ZorbaTHut | trying to decide your cataclysm spec based on your wrath preferences is just as bad as those people trying to predict cataclysm game mechanic problems based on wrath mechanics |
| 03:14.11 | Dashkal | The actual decision will be made with experimentation in Cata. Hopefully in beta |
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| 03:15.37 | Dashkal | Might become moot anyway. Depends on how fun hunter ends up |
| 03:15.44 | Dashkal | mmm, Worgen Hunter |
| 03:17.08 | Kraps | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/global/tournaments/standings/2-2010-March-Mayhem-Developers-Showdown |
| 03:18.48 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: like when they announced the changes to spirit etc "BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THIS BUTTON, IT WONT WORK ANYMORE?!" |
| 03:19.08 | Kraps | THEY'LL CHANGE IT DUMBASS |
| 03:19.09 | Dashkal | snickers |
| 03:19.22 | Dashkal | Or the "OMG Frost Presence for blood spec makes no sense!" |
| 03:19.33 | Kraps | ^ |
| 03:20.13 | Dashkal | I tried to follow the discussion threads about the changes today, but there were more of those posts than any actual discussion |
| 03:20.56 | Dashkal | 1) My favorite spec is dead! Whaaa!!! 2) X ability is broken, Blizz sucks! 3) My favorite spec got buffed! I'm imba suckers!. *sighs* |
| 03:20.56 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, yeah, exactly. like they're going to leave classes with three completely dysfunctional powers |
| 03:21.24 | ZorbaTHut | and the occasional people trying to figure out how new rotations will work |
| 03:21.38 | ZorbaTHut | omg if heroic strike isn't on next hit anymore, then we'll have to choose between it and devastate for our non-cooldown filler |
| 03:21.42 | Dashkal | That kind of speculation was at least entertaining. |
| 03:21.55 | ZorbaTHut | and if it's as good as it sounds then we won't ever use devastate! that means we will have (some number of talent points) free for other talents |
| 03:22.01 | ZorbaTHut | like, what the fuck, knock it off idiot. |
| 03:22.01 | Dashkal | Warrior is looking interesting for sure. I'm looking forward to their reveal. |
| 03:22.14 | ZorbaTHut | yeah they are making huge changes to warrior |
| 03:24.13 | Dashkal | One (hopefully baseless) complain I do have is that DKs are looking a little too much like warriors. Blood/Prot, Frost/Fury, Unholy/Arms. Lost of room to differ them, though, so *crosses fingers* |
| 03:24.36 | Dashkal | We'll find out on the 8th |
| 03:25.29 | Dashkal | Well, strike blood/prot. Self heals vs Blocking is a cool difference. |
| 03:25.41 | ZorbaTHut | well, any class with a tank spec and two dps specs would look like that |
| 03:26.19 | Dashkal | More what I meant was the Frost/Fury being dual wielding and Unholy/Arms being 2H. Still, this could easily differ by quite a bit depending on what they put into frost and unholy. Lots of room for differences. |
| 03:26.26 | ZorbaTHut | ah, yeah |
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| 03:41.31 | kd3 | jerub; lmao |
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| 03:49.17 | Shirik | lmao so this competition I'm in to build a vehicle |
| 03:49.27 | Shirik | they gave us all cars that violate the rules |
| 03:49.57 | Shirik | It's come to our attention that the tires that came with the stock 2Mode vehicles violate the minimum load rating set in the rules (Non-Year Specific Rules D-9.1.1 Tire Requirements). The tire's minimum load rating that came on |
| 03:49.58 | Shirik | the vehicles was 1653 lb and in the rules it states a minimum of 1764 lb. |
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| 03:56.56 | airtonix | yeah i had one of those but the wheels fell off and the doors turned green. |
| 03:57.56 | Wobin | what we totally need |
| 03:58.03 | Wobin | is the unholy tree to be the DK healing tree |
| 03:58.12 | Wobin | by draining enemy hp |
| 03:58.46 | Wobin | cause I vaugely recall there being some talk about a class that healed by dpsing |
| 03:58.55 | Wobin | (aside from spriests) |
| 03:59.13 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt that just be copying WAR |
| 03:59.26 | Wobin | ... your point? =P |
| 04:00.33 | Thunder_Child | they need to copy wow, not the other way atround |
| 04:00.36 | Thunder_Child | around* |
| 04:07.37 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/24038430476-the-nerf-bat.html |
| 04:12.08 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/24038609933-gc-explorers-found-gigantic-crustacean.html |
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| 04:40.43 | kd3 | winces at xkcd |
| 04:44.09 | Wobin | yeah |
| 04:44.11 | Wobin | ... |
| 04:45.46 | Thunder_Child | that looks....entertaining |
| 04:47.47 | Wobin | <Im OP Your Not> |
| 04:48.01 | Wobin | there needs to be a grammar check on guild names |
| 04:48.04 | Wobin | if it fails, you get deleted |
| 04:52.13 | ZorbaTHut | it's okay, there's a built-in penalty for making a guild with a terrible name |
| 04:52.27 | ZorbaTHut | you have to be in a guild with the kind of people who don't recognize terrible names |
| 04:57.05 | Thunder_Child | or dont care |
| 04:57.25 | Thunder_Child | sometimes it's better to be in a guild with a shitty name than not be in one at all |
| 04:58.21 | Wobin | how do you sleep at night, TC? |
| 05:00.14 | Jerub | ... we have guild members that don't like our own guild name because it's bad latin. |
| 05:00.34 | Wobin | hehe classy |
| 05:00.39 | Jerub | Cruor Sacramentum. It's one of those literal translation things. |
| 05:00.40 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: with my eyes shut |
| 05:00.57 | Jerub | if it were me it'd be Semper Ubi Sub Ubi, but meh :P |
| 05:01.00 | Wobin | Shut with -shame- TC.... SHAME |
| 05:01.31 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: i never feel shame |
| 05:02.08 | Wobin | Always where, under where? =P |
| 05:02.41 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: uh...whats that in english? |
| 05:02.54 | Jerub | Wobin: exactly. |
| 05:03.02 | Wobin | the direct translation of Semper Ubi Sub Ubi |
| 05:03.14 | Wobin | or in Jerub's case, always wear underwear |
| 05:03.25 | Jerub | it's a schoolboy latin joke. |
| 05:03.51 | Wobin | Jerubus sittibus, on the deskanorum, deskibus breakibus, Jerub on the floorum |
| 05:04.40 | Jerub | Wobin: I once delivered it deadpan at dinner to a bloke who was 50+ and knew latin from his school days, he scrunched up his face and said, "that doesn't make any sense." "Oh? what does it mean in english?" and he says, uh... "Always where, u....." and scowled at me. |
| 05:04.58 | Wobin | yeah, much like my face was earlier =P |
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| 05:05.56 | Iriel | Awesome - I can fish as a noblegarden bunny |
| 05:05.57 | Jerub | Wobin: hah |
| 05:06.09 | Wobin | Iriel, do you hold the fishing rod? |
| 05:06.23 | Iriel | no, sadly not |
| 05:06.51 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.54 | Jerub | Dagmar: i thought they fished with eggs on a hook... |
| 05:10.06 | Dagmar | I suppose you can if you fill the eggs with potassium first |
| 05:15.56 | Shirik | qqqq |
| 05:16.01 | Shirik | bank of america is being a bitch |
| 05:16.15 | Shirik | I wanted to buy my lens today but my money appears to have gone to /dev/null |
| 05:16.30 | Shirik | I made a transfer, and that account has removed that amount, but my "to" account hasn't received it yet |
| 05:18.41 | Iriel | sounds like the BofA I know and love |
| 05:19.42 | Shirik | Should I buy a UV filter along with the lens? |
| 05:19.57 | Shirik | I have been told in the past that it's a good idea just for protection |
| 05:24.34 | Iriel | I tend to |
| 05:24.51 | Iriel | that way if I scratch something with the end I damage the filter not the lens |
| 05:28.22 | Thunder_Child | ues |
| 05:28.27 | Thunder_Child | yes* |
| 05:28.30 | Thunder_Child | for what Iriel said |
| 05:31.12 | kd3 | <3s the anti-glare filter on his lenses |
| 05:31.54 | Iriel | I just spray anti-glare on my subjects |
| 05:32.33 | Arrowmaster | i prefer anti-matter |
| 05:32.38 | Thunder_Child | i think mine is neutral density just for protection |
| 05:32.46 | Iriel | that tends to detract from the pictures |
| 05:33.16 | Torhal | Iriel: WOuldn't it expose the negatives, or hell, melt the memory card? |
| 05:33.22 | Arrowmaster | has better results though |
| 05:33.36 | Thunder_Child | depends on distance and size |
| 05:33.59 | Thunder_Child | and how drunk you are |
| 05:38.57 | kd3 | hum... orbiter's about 7nmi away from the station |
| 05:42.46 | Wobin | bhm |
| 05:42.58 | Wobin | I need a good levelling disc spec |
| 05:43.14 | Wobin | currently at 61/3/0 |
| 05:43.23 | Wobin | I really need to respec =\ |
| 05:45.43 | Jerub | Wobin: are you levelling by questing? |
| 05:45.46 | Jerub | or the sane way, using LFM? |
| 05:45.50 | Wobin | lfm really |
| 05:46.00 | Wobin | since I don't have an offspec yet |
| 05:46.33 | Wobin | so my dps is dot dot dot MB smite SW:D |
| 05:47.01 | Thunder_Child | so level as shadow then? |
| 05:47.52 | Wobin | nah, I want to learn how to discheal |
| 05:47.55 | Jerub | Wobin: i don't know what those mean. disc is healing, right? |
| 05:48.03 | Wobin | yes |
| 05:48.08 | nevcairiel | disc is preventing damage, holy is healing! |
| 05:48.09 | Wobin | ie, gimped dps =P |
| 05:48.38 | Wobin | The best way to learn how to heal or tank in a certain style is to level with that style =P |
| 05:48.44 | Jerub | Wobin: but not gimped LFM queue times. |
| 05:48.45 | Thunder_Child | stop failing and just shadow level, it's not hard to heal in disc...not hard to heal in holy for that matter |
| 05:48.49 | Wobin | indeed |
| 05:49.03 | nevcairiel | ~wowalert |
| 05:49.04 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 05:49.04 | Wobin | Thunder_Child, thank you for your input, now go fuck off |
| 05:49.27 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: it's more fun to fuck with |
| 05:49.40 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: that's what she said? |
| 05:49.50 | Wobin | that's what his mother said |
| 05:50.20 | Thunder_Child | my mother also said to stop being a pussy and level shadow |
| 05:50.34 | Kraps | you guys who came up with SSS: I HATE YOU |
| 05:50.36 | Wobin | That's why I'm levelling disc |
| 05:50.39 | Wobin | cause of the shields |
| 05:50.45 | Wobin | cause I don't want to catch anything from your mother |
| 05:50.56 | Jerub | Wobin: hi5 |
| 05:51.05 | Wobin | in any case |
| 05:51.10 | Wobin | levelling cookie cutter is boring as all hell |
| 05:51.19 | Wobin | I've already levelled a priest with shadow |
| 05:51.32 | Wobin | it's why I level 'offspec' as it were |
| 05:51.39 | Wobin | cause it's slightly more interesting |
| 05:51.51 | Thunder_Child | i leveled as holy....never ever doing that again |
| 05:52.00 | Jamash | why would you do that |
| 05:52.14 | Jamash | I mean unless you spent 100% of your time in groups |
| 05:52.14 | Wobin | levelling disc is fine, really, they never get through your shield |
| 05:52.24 | Thunder_Child | because i didnt want to do shadow and disc was a joke when i leveled my priest |
| 05:53.24 | Jamash | but shadow is awesonme |
| 05:53.28 | Wobin | I guess I should use spirit tap |
| 05:53.31 | Jamash | yes |
| 05:55.31 | Wobin | man,we go through so many sacred candles =\ |
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| 05:57.27 | Wobin | we have no glyphs for removal of buff mat requirements, do we? =( |
| 05:58.29 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 05:58.31 | Thunder_Child | just levitate |
| 05:58.42 | Wobin | aye, grabbed that one already. Man that sucks =P |
| 05:59.08 | Thunder_Child | it's only 4/hour - deaths |
| 05:59.36 | Thunder_Child | though most people dont bother doing shadow prot |
| 05:59.48 | Wobin | eh, it's in my cork setup |
| 06:01.20 | Wobin | why does EG list tank gear as being not the right stuff for tanks? |
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| 06:08.12 | mikma | http://www.kuvalauta.fi/he/src/127057128477.png |
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| 06:10.57 | Shirik | my laptop is taking off |
| 06:11.10 | Shirik | it's been doing an HDR merge for like 15 minutes now and the fan is slowly increasing in speed |
| 06:11.17 | Shirik | to the point where it now sounmds like a jet engine |
| 06:11.21 | zenzio | damnit, you were too fast |
| 06:11.37 | zenzio | I was going to say stop using CDs |
| 06:12.01 | Shirik | CDs? |
| 06:12.17 | zenzio | have you ever used a CD lately? |
| 06:12.27 | Thunder_Child | cackles |
| 06:12.27 | zenzio | it sounds like your computer is literally trying to lift off |
| 06:14.26 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* the FB plugin on pidgin is glitching out a lot |
| 06:14.48 | zenzio | in what way(s)? I've been wondering if I should try that one |
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| 06:15.28 | Thunder_Child | keeps reposting entier conversations |
| 06:15.33 | Thunder_Child | for no seeming reason |
| 06:15.41 | Thunder_Child | but only to me, not to both parties |
| 06:15.52 | Thunder_Child | entire* |
| 06:16.56 | Dagmar | Wow @ TidyPlates B.I.G.S.C.H.L.O.N.G.S |
| 06:19.26 | zenzio | http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html - I wonder how much of Objective-C's leap is thanks to the iPhone |
| 06:20.13 | Iriel | My guess is "All" |
| 06:21.16 | ZorbaTHut | iPhone and OSX |
| 06:21.17 | Jerub | i really wish i'd learned objc earlier. |
| 06:21.26 | Jerub | would probably be a good alternative to python eventually. |
| 06:21.28 | zenzio | yeah, OS X is why I didn't simply assume it was all iPhone |
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| 06:25.18 | airtonix | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704789404574636531903626624.html |
| 06:25.55 | airtonix | you wouldn't download movies ? (And, after all the crying about losing money to piracy, guess what happened ) |
| 06:28.05 | Trela | mikma: LOL awesome. |
| 06:31.34 | Shirik | WTF |
| 06:31.43 | Shirik | I just had a conversation with a markov chain generator |
| 06:31.56 | krka | somehow that doesn't surprise me |
| 06:32.16 | krka | was it in real life, or text based? |
| 06:32.20 | Shirik | Me: "I love you". AI: "I lord you". Me: "You are very strange" AI: "So are you." Me: "Why do you hate me?" AI: "You sell poisoned milk to school children" |
| 06:32.22 | airtonix | krka, real life |
| 06:32.56 | krka | to be fair, that's a valid reason to hate someone |
| 06:33.06 | airtonix | didn't take long to reveal your diabolical plans did it shirik ? |
| 06:33.39 | Shirik | M: Are you a bot? A: No, are you? M: No, are you? A: Yes. |
| 06:33.46 | Shirik | it's not very good at lying |
| 06:34.12 | airtonix | turn that into a positive |
| 06:34.16 | zenzio | it's just playing mind games with you. Must be a female bot |
| 06:34.28 | krka | that's not a fembot... that's a femputer! |
| 06:34.54 | airtonix | thsi reminds me of : http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9780-AGT-AutomaticGoblinTherapist.html |
| 06:35.00 | airtonix | much lulz |
| 06:35.29 | Wobin | hehe |
| 06:35.41 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 06:35.42 | Wobin | Insanity is so non stress |
| 06:35.53 | Wobin | when your party members can't break through your shield |
| 06:36.50 | Shirik | blue is me: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3a4a416a72feb990c24cb2956ee2d055.png |
| 06:37.02 | Shirik | I mean black |
| 06:37.03 | Shirik | black is me |
| 06:38.10 | airtonix | how does that make you feel |
| 06:38.11 | nevcairiel | you're blue |
| 06:38.17 | Shirik | dabadi dabadai |
| 06:40.58 | Iriel | I swear the noblegarden egg drop RNG is out to get me |
| 06:41.40 | Wobin | Iriel, I almost got all the eggs I needed before the bunnypaw dropped |
| 06:41.54 | Wobin | I then logged out to get the tux set sent back |
| 06:42.00 | Wobin | and logged in to 0 chocolate eggs |
| 06:42.04 | Iriel | I got 9 bunny paws |
| 06:42.15 | Iriel | hundreds, literally, of chocolate |
| 06:42.18 | Iriel | not a single dress |
| 06:42.22 | Iriel | Every other item |
| 06:42.24 | Iriel | but no dress |
| 06:42.27 | Wobin | thankfully, I'd used up all the eggs to get the other achievements |
| 06:42.30 | Iriel | and the achivement doesn't count if you buy it |
| 06:43.03 | Wobin | Iriel, you don't need it for the meta |
| 06:43.11 | Wobin | unless you're just doing it as a completionist |
| 06:43.14 | Iriel | So? It's silly having ONE ungotten achivement |
| 06:43.20 | Wobin | ^ |
| 06:43.21 | Iriel | Indeed, I get a bit compulsive |
| 06:52.17 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/724/ |
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| 06:58.02 | Iriel | I'm giving up for tonight.. bah |
| 06:58.09 | Iriel | What on earth do I do with 200 chocolate? |
| 06:58.18 | krka | eat! |
| 06:58.25 | Adys | Eat 5 of them and contemplate the rest |
| 06:58.43 | Iriel | I dont have a better answer for 'what do I do with 195 chocolates' |
| 06:59.03 | krka | Eat 5 of them and repeat |
| 06:59.08 | Adys | Contemplating chocolate is a very special activity |
| 06:59.13 | Thunder_Child | you lure women to you. |
| 06:59.19 | Adys | it usually leads to 5 minutes of "I shouldn't eat the rest" |
| 06:59.22 | Adys | and eating 5 more |
| 06:59.22 | Wobin | or small children |
| 06:59.25 | Adys | rinse & repeat |
| 06:59.49 | Cairenn | you save some for me at BlizzCon! |
| 07:00.24 | Iriel | Cairenn: if it was REAL chocolate this wouldn't be an issue! |
| 07:00.32 | Cairenn | ah |
| 07:00.37 | Cairenn | bummer |
| 07:00.40 | Iriel | yeah |
| 07:00.50 | Cairenn | fake chocolate << real chocolate |
| 07:00.57 | Thunder_Child | no...it still be an issue |
| 07:01.03 | Iriel | Virtual Chocolate - no less |
| 07:01.17 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:02.14 | Iriel | sleeps |
| 07:02.34 | Shadowed | for 43200 seconds? |
| 07:02.37 | Shadowed | aw he left |
| 07:03.00 | Fisker | slaps Shadowed around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:08.59 | Thunder_Child | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large cox |
| 07:12.31 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:12.51 | Fisker | i want a damn rocket mount |
| 07:14.29 | Thunder_Child | rocket mounts Fisker |
| 07:14.54 | nevcairiel | i want cataclysm druid infos! |
| 07:14.59 | nevcairiel | two days to wait =( |
| 07:15.04 | Fisker | Thunder_Child's Thunder_Child |
| 07:15.06 | Fisker | be a paladin |
| 07:15.18 | Fisker | we have to wait until the expansion is out |
| 07:16.01 | nevcairiel | the expansion is out next week? |
| 07:16.05 | nevcairiel | awesome |
| 07:16.21 | Fisker | no |
| 07:18.11 | Fisker | why would you say that anyway? |
| 07:18.26 | nevcairiel | because thats when you get paladin infos! |
| 07:18.44 | Fisker | no |
| 07:18.50 | Fisker | That's when we get supposed paladin information |
| 07:19.08 | Fisker | Unfortunately the community will determine that it's overpowered |
| 07:19.15 | Fisker | Blizzard won't care until the expansion is out |
| 07:19.33 | Fisker | So when the expansion is out we'll be nerfed and finally find out what we can expect from the expansion |
| 07:19.37 | nevcairiel | i hope they redesign prot paladongs |
| 07:19.39 | Jerub | i love how druid is warrior/rogue/mage/healer, i think it's whacky that mage is uh. 'mage'. |
| 07:19.44 | Jerub | i wonder how cat will come out :) |
| 07:19.48 | nevcairiel | so its not like lol-faceroll tanking |
| 07:20.43 | Jerub | nevcairiel: i hope bears get something less boring. |
| 07:20.51 | Jerub | prot warriors are very interesting. bears are... boooring. |
| 07:20.54 | Grum | hard to teach bears new tricks |
| 07:21.03 | Jerub | Grum: they tend to maul your face off |
| 07:21.08 | nevcairiel | bear tanking will change alot |
| 07:21.10 | Grum | and swipe you |
| 07:21.15 | nevcairiel | maul was like 50% of their damage |
| 07:21.17 | Grum | well there you go! maul+swipe .. beartanking |
| 07:21.19 | nevcairiel | and its different now |
| 07:21.35 | Jerub | nevcairiel: 60-70% |
| 07:21.41 | Grum | nevcairiel: 'its different now' that smells like you play already :P |
| 07:21.42 | nevcairiel | they also said bears will get some new buttons |
| 07:21.43 | Jerub | nevcairiel: depends on the circumstance. |
| 07:21.58 | msoul | prot warriors > tanks :P |
| 07:22.04 | Jerub | i agree. |
| 07:22.07 | Grum | nothing more fun than running normal instances as a bear |
| 07:22.14 | Jerub | i'm levelling my prot warrior at the moment, and he's awesome. |
| 07:22.14 | msoul | i am leveling my second paladin |
| 07:22.17 | Grum | and ranking top dps because of your 'from ass dps' |
| 07:22.26 | Jerub | heirloom shoulder/chest/sword and he's topping the dps charts |
| 07:22.30 | msoul | just to have 3 classes than can tank/dps and one can heal |
| 07:23.01 | msoul | Jerub: wont hurt to have crusader on wep |
| 07:23.16 | Jerub | msoul: it's 250g for a scroll, need to figure out and farm mats. |
| 07:23.37 | Grum | 250 is what? :p .. |
| 07:23.38 | msoul | think you'd call me crazy if you see how much i spent a day :P |
| 07:23.53 | Grum | spending on? :( |
| 07:23.58 | Jerub | msoul: i don't like spending that much on a guy who already tops dps at level 46 |
| 07:23.59 | msoul | i do respec a lot and i mean "alot" not to mention buying enchants everyday |
| 07:24.00 | Grum | you can buy exotic pets :/ |
| 07:24.09 | msoul | Jerub: hehehe |
| 07:24.20 | msoul | Grum: luckily i got rid of that idea of having pets/mounts |
| 07:24.21 | Jerub | msoul: i've got 4-5k sitting around |
| 07:24.34 | msoul | Jerub: so far 10k only and i spent a lot of gold on toys |
| 07:24.35 | Grum | i'm also not really into that |
| 07:24.42 | msoul | gear leveling professions etc |
| 07:24.42 | Jerub | but 250g for an enchant i don't need vs. flying... |
| 07:24.47 | nevcairiel | I agree, prot is the most fun tank |
| 07:24.56 | msoul | Grum: solo stratholme for the mount and MGT ;) |
| 07:25.00 | Jerub | yeah, i spent 500g levelling BS on my warrior yesterday |
| 07:25.30 | msoul | try to devide professions on chars |
| 07:25.47 | msoul | my pala is having herbalism/insc, dk jc/alchemist/war BS/mining |
| 07:25.54 | Jerub | my problem with my warrior is he's mining/bs |
| 07:26.03 | Fisker | slaps Jerub around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:26.04 | Jerub | but he's only left TB in order to hand in quests people shared with him |
| 07:26.10 | msoul | what's wrong with that? |
| 07:26.17 | Jerub | so his mining isn't netting any materials. |
| 07:26.18 | msoul | mining gives you 60 stam when maxxed |
| 07:26.28 | Jerub | i might as well have enchanting. |
| 07:26.29 | Jerub | :P |
| 07:26.31 | nevcairiel | my warrior is mining/eng |
| 07:26.33 | Jerub | or alchemy. |
| 07:26.34 | nevcairiel | love the eng mount :D |
| 07:26.35 | Grum | just .. buy ore? |
| 07:26.40 | Jerub | Grum: i'm doing that, yes. |
| 07:26.49 | msoul | nevcairiel: i<3 eng |
| 07:26.49 | Jerub | i'm going to drop mining soon i think. |
| 07:26.58 | Grum | engineering is quite nice tbh |
| 07:27.04 | msoul | nevcairiel: i love the enchants |
| 07:27.11 | nevcairiel | the glove enchant is nice for tanks |
| 07:27.16 | msoul | indeed |
| 07:27.31 | msoul | also dps enchant on cloak/boots etc |
| 07:27.35 | Wobin | engineering is great |
| 07:27.40 | msoul | 23 agi |
| 07:28.02 | msoul | Wobin: see i was hesitated whether to max engi or BS. chose bs cause of the 2 extra sockets |
| 07:28.18 | Wobin | well |
| 07:28.21 | Wobin | engineering is more fun |
| 07:28.34 | Grum | luckily you dont actually have to max a profession out anymore :D |
| 07:28.36 | msoul | and to be truthful want to have bs/Jc but when cata hits i don't want to level miining again on one of the chars |
| 07:28.53 | nevcairiel | i want a chopper |
| 07:28.57 | nevcairiel | but |
| 07:29.00 | msoul | come to kazzak |
| 07:29.01 | nevcairiel | you cant farm the mats |
| 07:29.04 | msoul | and i will give it to you for free |
| 07:29.07 | nevcairiel | have to use the gold |
| 07:29.13 | msoul | notice you need to have engi with 300 skill |
| 07:29.13 | Jerub | nevcairiel: isn't the mats just 'gold' ? |
| 07:29.14 | Jerub | :P |
| 07:29.26 | msoul | nevcairiel: i kid you not i will pass it to you |
| 07:29.34 | Wobin | well |
| 07:29.36 | msoul | but too bad you're on US realms :P |
| 07:29.37 | Wobin | that's $50 |
| 07:29.40 | Jerub | i want a tundra mammoth |
| 07:29.43 | nevcairiel | i'm on EU |
| 07:29.45 | Wobin | 25 transfer either way |
| 07:29.59 | Grum | hahaha |
| 07:30.02 | Grum | nev has as free mount inc ;) |
| 07:30.09 | msoul | Jerub: had that... i was into mounts badly back then... luckily i don't care anymore and regret the gold i spent on mounts/pets |
| 07:30.22 | msoul | nevcairiel: move to kazzak and will pass it to you |
| 07:30.29 | Jerub | msoul: i just want the vendors... |
| 07:30.35 | Jerub | it's a utility thing :P |
| 07:30.40 | Grum | tbh the vendormount and bike are useful |
| 07:30.48 | msoul | Jerub: yes the 16kg from dala |
| 07:30.52 | msoul | if you're exalted that one? |
| 07:31.18 | nevcairiel | also since when do you need 300 engineering to use the chopper? |
| 07:31.22 | msoul | grum i have close to 70+ can't remember exatly and i can get the mag'har mounts all of them within a week or so |
| 07:31.40 | msoul | nevcairiel: i havw the blue one |
| 07:31.42 | Grum | msoul: its trivial to get ~80 mounts orso |
| 07:31.45 | msoul | let me get the name for you |
| 07:31.53 | Grum | just go around the world buying all the colors >< |
| 07:32.00 | nevcairiel | i'm talking about the chopper thats actually named chopper :P |
| 07:32.01 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowhead.com/item=44413 |
| 07:32.05 | nevcairiel | i own the helicopter |
| 07:32.07 | msoul | Grum: i am happy with the standard mount from stormwind now "did faction change yesterday" |
| 07:32.18 | msoul | nevcairiel: lol :P |
| 07:32.20 | Grum | auchie faction change :P |
| 07:32.32 | msoul | Grum: i was lost |
| 07:32.44 | Grum | that must be horrible to do |
| 07:32.48 | Grum | i cant imagine doing that hehe |
| 07:32.50 | msoul | did icc10 since it got resetted and voa25... on the way to gunship fight i went to the wrong way "horde way" |
| 07:32.52 | Grum | having to relearn the whole world |
| 07:33.07 | msoul | and didn't know you can save darnavan or is it a new thing with 3.3.3? |
| 07:33.10 | Grum | oh horde goes right there? |
| 07:33.26 | msoul | Grum: Horde on gunship fight goes to right.. allies left :P |
| 07:33.28 | Grum | lol :p |
| 07:33.31 | Grum | didnt know that ;) |
| 07:33.39 | msoul | hehe |
| 07:33.49 | Grum | i'd be massively confused |
| 07:33.51 | msoul | didn't know that either... but i am loving the alliance side now |
| 07:34.50 | Grum | what do you like about it other than the change of scenery? |
| 07:34.52 | msoul | the most interesting thing when playing as alliance human is the 10% rep |
| 07:35.08 | Grum | oh yes.. +10% rep ftw |
| 07:35.14 | msoul | i like 10% rep thingie... exploring new world := |
| 07:35.18 | msoul | ;) |
| 07:35.23 | msoul | and few other things |
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| 07:35.35 | Grum | all the noobs? |
| 07:36.37 | msoul | lots of noobs, yesterday mage got the dagger instead of passing it to the priest |
| 07:36.49 | msoul | the rest of the raid had to shout and ask him to pass it to him |
| 07:36.57 | Grum | why would you pass that to the priest? O.o |
| 07:37.08 | msoul | the staff is bettah! |
| 07:37.24 | Grum | its not? MH+OH is always better than a staff |
| 07:37.31 | Grum | unless you want +sta/+int |
| 07:37.54 | msoul | that's what they claim i just want to get the raid going :P |
| 07:38.11 | nevcairiel | i like wearing a staff |
| 07:38.12 | msoul | notice: was the first time i get into a grp downing saurfang after 1 wipe |
| 07:38.17 | nevcairiel | feels more natural to my druid |
| 07:38.24 | msoul | so yes i am happy playing as alliance now |
| 07:39.23 | Grum | its always hard to get rid of a staff again :( |
| 07:39.37 | nevcairiel | yeah, dont even have a OH right now |
| 07:39.59 | msoul | you'd get whatever stat you're after if you play with a nice guild that everyone committed to the guild not loot hunger/lust |
| 07:40.27 | msoul | see here is the thing i've said it yesterday even |
| 07:40.44 | Grum | lol |
| 07:40.47 | Grum | commited to the guild |
| 07:40.49 | Grum | that is a fable |
| 07:41.17 | msoul | what pisses me off the most when i see someone asking in trade chat "LFM ICC25 link me GS with 5600 and achievement and come to dalaran NB for inspection" """AND""" this item is reserved |
| 07:41.45 | Grum | isnt that why you are in a guild? |
| 07:41.50 | Grum | not to have to go on lolololpugs |
| 07:41.51 | msoul | i never got into any raid if i see anything reserved |
| 07:42.00 | msoul | Grum: i am looking for one now :) |
| 07:42.09 | Grum | :D |
| 07:42.12 | nevcairiel | Grum: i miss my old guild, everyone was commited and it was a big community |
| 07:42.24 | nevcairiel | not just a raiding association |
| 07:42.41 | haste | re-create it! |
| 07:42.50 | nevcairiel | we are planning to |
| 07:42.52 | msoul | nevcairiel: lots of things a GM that doesn't even have pubic hair telling everyone on vent to shut the fuck up? that is just funny |
| 07:42.54 | nevcairiel | but getting enough people sucks |
| 07:43.45 | msoul | nevcairiel: there are few guilds that you can tell they do have a very nice community |
| 07:44.22 | Grum | whenever a guild goes south for whatever reason you'll see how far loyalty goes ... |
| 07:44.23 | msoul | but those guilds wont recruit anyone unless you have been into one of the other top guilds or have a high end gear |
| 07:44.30 | Grum | and really loyalty is the first thing thrown out |
| 07:44.47 | msoul | Grum: I've never seen anyone loyal to the guild |
| 07:45.01 | nevcairiel | Grum: we went south like 2 times in BC, once in gruul times, and once again in sunwell, and what stuck around during that was what made the guild so good |
| 07:45.06 | msoul | loot is for officers/friends and their alts raiders comes last |
| 07:45.26 | nevcairiel | in WotLK it just was too big, they decided to merge with another guild, and too much new people, so basically everyone left |
| 07:45.32 | Grum | nevcairiel: yes but you also see people leaving |
| 07:45.48 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 07:45.54 | nevcairiel | but most stayed |
| 07:45.56 | Grum | and depending on how bad it goes almost every guild is on the virge of a disband |
| 07:46.06 | msoul | nevcairiel: if i get 15 raiders i wouldn't care about 25 content i'd stick with 10 normal/heroic |
| 07:46.07 | nevcairiel | that only happend in wotlk |
| 07:46.17 | msoul | more people more problems :/ |
| 07:46.25 | nevcairiel | so many people decided to take a break |
| 07:46.33 | Grum | nowadays most raiding guilds raid with such a tight roster than losing 5-6 people in a single raiding week will cause severe ruptures |
| 07:46.38 | nevcairiel | but alot of those are still around |
| 07:46.42 | nevcairiel | and we talk about recreating |
| 07:47.04 | nevcairiel | but we're maybe 12 of the old people or so |
| 07:47.08 | nevcairiel | not enough =p |
| 07:47.11 | msoul | nevcairiel: what realm |
| 07:47.13 | Grum | enough for 10m :P |
| 07:47.28 | nevcairiel | antonidas |
| 07:47.37 | nevcairiel | its a german realm, so doesnt help anyone else much :p |
| 07:47.40 | Grum | settings up a guild is also not quite trivial, quite some work before you get that done nicely :) |
| 07:47.44 | Grum | -s |
| 07:47.52 | msoul | nevcairiel: hehe |
| 07:48.02 | nevcairiel | we're not afraid of the work, just getting the people together |
| 07:48.30 | nevcairiel | i'm stuck in some dumbass casual guild where i knew some people from classic times, and not sure if i should join a raiding guild or hope for the rebuild |
| 07:48.37 | nevcairiel | other are stuck in a raiding guild and hate it there |
| 07:48.40 | nevcairiel | so nothing good |
| 07:48.52 | msoul | nevcairiel: wait until cata if you're not very keen about icc |
| 07:49.43 | nevcairiel | i dont really care for the raiding itself, just for the fun playing with good people |
| 07:50.12 | nevcairiel | so i dont force the issue by trying to setup some icc thing |
| 07:51.39 | nevcairiel | but yeah, if things dont change, i'll join some guild for cata |
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| 08:06.28 | Wobin | http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_14332.shtml |
| 08:06.31 | Wobin | .... |
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| 08:21.28 | Adys | Was there any other LK heroic kill since paragon's? |
| 08:21.34 | Adys | as in, which other servers downed him? |
| 08:21.44 | msoul | none that i know of |
| 08:21.54 | msoul | para did it twice now |
| 08:22.01 | Adys | hmm. very good |
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| 08:39.49 | mikma | lol lol |
| 08:53.21 | olafski | bah I wanna be frost tank |
| 08:53.27 | olafski | I'm probably repeating what's been said already but still |
| 08:54.07 | Dagmar | What the hell |
| 08:54.49 | ZorbaTHut | I will write a UI mod just for you |
| 08:54.55 | ZorbaTHut | it will rename "blood" to "frost" and vice-versa. |
| 08:55.05 | Dagmar | Conan is running animated flash ads with bannertext at the bottom of "COURAGE" then "CARNAGE" and then "CLEAVAGE" |
| 08:55.17 | Dagmar | I thought respectable companies were supposed to be better than that |
| 08:55.42 | olafski | cool zorbathut :) |
| 08:55.50 | olafski | will it also replace blood boil with howling blast? =) |
| 08:56.09 | olafski | surely they mean cleaving dagmar ;) |
| 08:56.17 | ZorbaTHut | yes, it will absolutely rename those two abilities as well |
| 08:56.22 | olafski | great |
| 08:56.23 | olafski | I'm set then |
| 08:56.28 | ZorbaTHut | assuming they even exist in Cataclysm which is by no means guaranteed |
| 08:56.31 | olafski | wasn't very keen on dualwielding anyway so you don't have to change that |
| 08:56.37 | Dagmar | olafski: No. They show the barbarian woman with the blue paint and low cut bodice on the third frame |
| 08:56.45 | olafski | dagmar: oh :( |
| 08:56.53 | olafski | Age of Conevony? |
| 08:58.06 | Dagmar | Apparently |
| 09:03.27 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: since when is funcom respectable? |
| 09:04.22 | Arrowmaster | thats no a joke, the only good thing theyve ever made that i can think of was AO |
| 09:05.26 | ZorbaTHut | did you . . . ever play AO? |
| 09:05.49 | ZorbaTHut | (also I heard The Longest Journey was pretty dang good) |
| 09:13.47 | zenzio | ZorbaTHut: don't diss AO. It had many flaws, but considering its age it wasn't that bad |
| 09:13.51 | Fisker | slaps ZorbaTHut around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:13.53 | Fisker | slaps zenzio around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:14.13 | haste | ZorbaTHut: it is |
| 09:14.15 | ZorbaTHut | oh, I played it for quite a while, and it definitely wasn't one of the *worst*. but it also wasn't anywhere near one of the *best*, and it took them a very, very long time to get it stable |
| 09:14.28 | zenzio | definitely, I don't argue that =) |
| 09:14.36 | haste | dreamfall is suppose to be good as well, but the controls kill me |
| 09:14.45 | zenzio | I wish they'd done more with it... the original setting in AO really appealed to me |
| 09:14.47 | ZorbaTHut | and, from what I've heard of TLJ, calling AO "the only good thing they've ever made" is just incredibly incorrect on at least one point, possibly more :) |
| 09:15.06 | zenzio | yeah, TLJ is generally considered the better of the two |
| 09:15.19 | ZorbaTHut | (also I just bought TLJ on Steam) |
| 09:15.34 | ZorbaTHut | (news flash, steam is awesome) |
| 09:15.41 | haste | I was actually playing TLJ with multi-remote desktop and VT |
| 09:16.14 | haste | three people playing together, with commentary! |
| 09:16.26 | Dagmar | It would have been nice if they'd finished the game |
| 09:16.36 | haste | but now! luch.. |
| 09:34.35 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:52.50 | Adys | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/4/7/way-explanation/ |
| 09:56.29 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 09:56.46 | Arrowmaster | great now im going to have to lookup what gelatin really is and possibly never eat it again |
| 09:57.41 | nevcairiel | it is really made from pig and cow bones |
| 09:58.00 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
| 09:58.22 | Fisker | i am unstoppable |
| 09:58.53 | Arrowmaster | seriously i could have gone without knowing that |
| 09:59.08 | nevcairiel | and i thought thats common knowledge |
| 09:59.09 | Arrowmaster | but no penny arcade just had to go and ruin jello for me |
| 09:59.10 | nevcairiel | i knew that |
| 09:59.29 | Torhal | I've known that since I was a small child |
| 09:59.46 | nevcairiel | jello still is yummy! :D |
| 10:00.03 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: You'll have to forego taking most medication as well. |
| 10:00.14 | Torhal | The pill shells are made from gelatin |
| 10:00.25 | nevcairiel | you also dont want to know whats in a typical sausage |
| 10:00.30 | Torhal | Aye |
| 10:00.50 | Torhal | I still eat sausage. |
| 10:00.52 | Torhal | Heh |
| 10:01.14 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 10:01.15 | nevcairiel | i dont care |
| 10:01.23 | nevcairiel | as long as its a brain-free sausage |
| 10:01.28 | Arrowmaster | one of my daily meds is in a little shell but i can pull it apart and just take the bunch of little tiny round thingys |
| 10:01.49 | nevcairiel | and what do you think those round thingys are made of? :D |
| 10:01.57 | Arrowmaster | magic |
| 10:02.06 | ZorbaTHut | hey arrowmaster, ever eat anything with red food coloring? |
| 10:02.26 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:02.59 | ZorbaTHut | that's good, 'cause it's made from ground-up bug corpses! :D |
| 10:03.28 | Dagmar | More sausage for me |
| 10:03.32 | nevcairiel | dont they use red beets for that? |
| 10:04.09 | Dagmar | Nope just sterile, wholesome chemicals |
| 10:04.20 | ZorbaTHut | nev, nope, it's pretty much either bugs or coal. |
| 10:04.42 | nevcairiel | wikipedia claims that beet root is used for food colors |
| 10:05.05 | Dagmar | nevcariel: In places that can afford beets, sure |
| 10:05.11 | ZorbaTHut | not really in the industrial world. it's more expensive |
| 10:05.21 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/bugjuice.asp |
| 10:05.40 | Dagmar | You would simply not recognize most of what they make cheap freezer foods out of if you saw it unprocessed |
| 10:05.58 | nevcairiel | also the red beet color has a fun factor |
| 10:06.03 | nevcairiel | some people cant break it down |
| 10:06.07 | nevcairiel | resulting in red pee :P |
| 10:06.51 | Dagmar | That's nothing |
| 10:07.05 | Dagmar | Kool-Aid had those "magic" color-changing flavors for awhile. |
| 10:07.28 | Dagmar | "Great Bluedini" would pretty much pass through you and return to it's original color, _green_, in your urine |
| 10:07.44 | Dagmar | It's a shockingly VIVID green, too. |
| 10:07.45 | Arrowmaster | like that purple mtn dew that turned blue in ice? |
| 10:07.46 | nevcairiel | bluedini sounds more like a bleuish color |
| 10:07.55 | nevcairiel | blueish* |
| 10:07.55 | Dagmar | Not the sort of thing you want to see the day after you wake up from dropping acid. |
| 10:08.01 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 10:10.07 | Dagmar | You laugh, but wait until *you* pee a color that's completely not supposed to be there one morning when you're hung over |
| 10:10.35 | Arrowmaster | like that episode of mash? |
| 10:11.01 | Dagmar | I wish I could find more of it because I would *so* love to do that on a drug test |
| 10:11.09 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 10:12.18 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 10:12.39 | Dagmar | Not to be dismissive, but if you saw red pee, you'd probably think "Oh damn, I need to see a doctor about this" which is BAD but at least it's in known space |
| 10:12.53 | Dagmar | Vivid green pee on the other hand, all you can think is "AUUUUUGGH WHAT THE HELL" |
| 10:13.31 | Arrowmaster | call hazmat |
| 10:13.43 | Arrowmaster | get the giger meters |
| 10:14.10 | Dagmar | I used to drink a *lot* of kool-aid |
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| 10:21.49 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3-p_4z6FiM#t=1m08s :o |
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| 10:50.19 | amro | anyone familiar with multipart/form-data? |
| 10:51.04 | Arrowmaster | isnt that used when sending a POST |
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| 10:52.02 | amro | ye |
| 10:52.11 | amro | I'm not sure what value Content-Length should have |
| 10:57.14 | Fisker | i want to troll Antiarc |
| 10:59.59 | Adys | hey Shadowed ping |
| 11:00.03 | Adys | actually |
| 11:00.04 | Adys | anyone |
| 11:00.11 | Adys | I need an AH-bookmark type of addon |
| 11:00.13 | Fisker | pong |
| 11:00.33 | Adys | for example i add an item to my bookmark list, and every time i go to the AH, i can check if any of my bookmarks are up there |
| 11:01.33 | Fisker | auctionator has something like that, but it doesn't automatically check all |
| 11:01.41 | Adys | yeah, saw that |
| 11:01.50 | Adys | I just want a "check bookmarks" button or something |
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| 11:18.27 | Arrowmaster | haha http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/144144 |
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| 11:52.29 | Fisker | i hate my spreadsheet Antiarc |
| 11:52.37 | Fisker | it tells me to go gem hit in everything |
| 11:52.39 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:52.46 | Antiarc | hit's really strong now |
| 11:52.53 | Antiarc | but ArP is massively more powerful with enough |
| 11:53.47 | Antiarc | Currently, for me, hit is 1.76 EP, ArP is 2.54 EP |
| 11:54.46 | Fisker | what spreadsheet do you use? |
| 11:54.57 | Antiarc | Aldriana's |
| 11:56.26 | Fisker | well it's a bit weird |
| 11:56.46 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/i_love_cats.jpeg |
| 11:56.58 | Fisker | cause it changes everything to attackpower gems when i've gemmed some of them hit |
| 11:57.17 | Antiarc | well, yeah, it'll do that depending on how the EP values shift around |
| 11:57.43 | Fisker | i want something like rawr :( |
| 11:59.36 | Fisker | aldrina's is kinda annoying as well since i can only put in newer items |
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| 12:46.34 | mikma | is this my imagination or did mmo-champion explode |
| 12:46.59 | mikma | meh, works fine with opera but is wonky with firefox. odd |
| 12:50.10 | zenzio | looks fine in my Firefox |
| 12:52.25 | mikma | the page was missing all the colors and images :D really odd |
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| 13:17.43 | zenzio | why hello there, Lopeppeppy |
| 13:19.42 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
| 13:32.51 | zenzio | http://averagecats.com/2390 |
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| 13:36.14 | Fisker | rage zenzio |
| 13:36.22 | zenzio | not yet normalised |
| 13:36.23 | Fisker | i blow u up? |
| 13:36.47 | Adys | http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/04/07/010249/After-27-Years-a-New-High-Score-For-Asteroids |
| 13:44.35 | Fisker | why so zenzio ? |
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| 14:14.21 | Fisker | Cide |
| 14:16.56 | Cide | hi |
| 14:19.03 | Fisker | Cide is socializing |
| 14:19.04 | Fisker | get him |
| 14:22.15 | Torhal | throws a haker at Fisker. |
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| 14:44.51 | foxlit | is bored |
| 14:45.32 | Lopeppeppy | is bored bored. |
| 14:48.54 | Shirik | oh wtf is this shit |
| 14:48.59 | Shirik | Paypal: "We've temporarily limited access to your account." |
| 14:49.30 | Torhal | Fisker: Have you been using Shirik's ID to embezzle again? |
| 14:49.35 | Shirik | I have to reconfirm my phone number before I can use or transfer money |
| 14:49.37 | foxlit | Shirik: you fell into the trap of actually keeping money in your paypal account? |
| 14:49.51 | Shirik | I have like $50 in there |
| 14:50.16 | Shirik | And it's my home phone number |
| 14:50.18 | Shirik | such BS |
| 14:51.46 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 14:51.56 | Shirik | Feb 6, 2010: We have reason to believe that your account was accessed by a third party. We have limited access to sensitive PayPal account features in case your account has been accessed by an unauthorized third party. We understand that having limited access can be an inconvenience, but protecting your account is our primary concern. |
| 14:52.16 | Shirik | I seriously doubt that considering there's still money in it, but wtf |
| 14:55.00 | Gnarfoz | paypal sucks, welcome to 2008 |
| 14:55.03 | Gnarfoz | circa |
| 14:59.42 | cog|work | hmmm.... openttd is pretty awesome |
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| 15:02.03 | Elkano | it sure is cog|work :) |
| 15:02.25 | Elkano | check out openttdcoop... they are building awsome stuff ^^ even logical circuits |
| 15:06.45 | cog|work | yeah, i was perusing their wiki last night |
| 15:09.16 | Elkano | though some of their constructions really fuck my brain :/ like flip flop and such... |
| 15:10.24 | durcyn | reminds me of a cs course where we had to build everything out of NAND gates |
| 15:10.35 | ckknight | I made a JVM out of NAND gates |
| 15:10.37 | cog|work | I've done that kind of thing in my spare time before |
| 15:10.48 | Shirik | durcyn: In a CS course? |
| 15:10.50 | Shirik | why? |
| 15:10.57 | cog|work | made myself a 16-bit combinatorial multiplier |
| 15:11.12 | Shirik | cmon Elkano, flip flops are easy |
| 15:11.36 | Elkano | yeah, but build using train tracks and trains running in small circles? |
| 15:11.42 | durcyn | Shirik: why not? this is the same greybeard that taught me scheme, too. |
| 15:11.45 | cog|work | :) |
| 15:11.52 | Shirik | lol Elkano |
| 15:11.57 | Shirik | ok that's kinda awesome |
| 15:12.08 | cog|work | http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2008/06/17/the-insane-led-counter-logic-gates-part-1/ |
| 15:14.16 | foxlit | Hm, I should hook wget up to my video transcoder. |
| 15:14.24 | foxlit | Should really be possible to convert stuff while downloading it. |
| 15:15.20 | Elkano | Shirik: http://wiki.openttdcoop.org/images/1/10/SPLITS_06_flipflop.png |
| 15:17.37 | batrick | hello shirik |
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| 15:27.07 | batrick | "She said that Comcast never blocked file sharing, but acknowledged that the sharing had been "delayed" in a "very, very small percentage of cases when an area gets overloaded."" |
| 15:27.17 | batrick | Stupid cunt apparently doesn't know that there is no such thing as packet delay. |
| 15:27.40 | batrick | before that: "Comcast spokeswoman Sena Fitzmaurice told CNNMoney.com, that her company was "gratified" by the court's decision and that the "primary goal was always to clear our name and reputation."" |
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| 15:34.34 | Shirik | someone halp |
| 15:34.39 | Shirik | I have like 200 tar files to extract |
| 15:34.44 | Shirik | I tried |
| 15:34.57 | Shirik | find . | tar -xvT - |
| 15:35.05 | durcyn | ls -1 *.tar | while read i; do tar xsf $i;done |
| 15:35.07 | Shirik | but it yelled at me saying -f and -T both want standard input (though I never asked for -f) |
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| 15:35.23 | Shirik | not .tar files but thanks :) |
| 15:35.35 | durcyn | ... |
| 15:35.41 | batrick | for f in *; do tar xvf $(basename $f .tar) $f; done |
| 15:37.19 | Shirik | what is -s anyway? |
| 15:37.28 | Shirik | I guess I could look it up |
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| 15:38.01 | batrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.22 | batrick | i couldn't tell what it's for from the description |
| 15:39.23 | foxlit | http://eu.battle.net/forums/board.aspx?rhtml=y&ForumName=sc2-general << "My hair is a bird, this page is invalid," says the wildheart-wearing druid |
| 15:42.57 | Shirik | worked durcyn thanks |
| 15:43.38 | batrick | I'm pretty sure the -l argument to ls is ignored when ls is writing to a pipe. |
| 15:43.57 | batrick | just fyi |
| 15:44.20 | mikma | foxlit: :D |
| 15:44.46 | batrick | oh nvm |
| 15:44.50 | batrick | that's a -1 |
| 15:44.54 | batrick | and i'm wrong anyway |
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| 16:08.29 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: awwwww |
| 16:11.39 | Fisker | "Their is no spoone" -Shirik |
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| 16:15.20 | Cairenn|afk | station |
| 16:15.26 | Lunessa | :D |
| 16:15.44 | Cide | http://pastey.net/135005 |
| 16:16.36 | Kalroth | hahaha |
| 16:16.50 | Kalroth | You're such an asshole, Cide! |
| 16:17.00 | Cide | he had it coming |
| 16:17.57 | Kalroth | not only did you steal HIS nickname, but you also ghosted him and all he did was to offer some Delightful Dinner On Sunday |
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| 16:19.13 | Shirik | where was Cide being evil? |
| 16:19.21 | Cide | see pastey |
| 16:19.55 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:20.07 | Ackis | ~cide++ |
| 16:20.24 | Kalroth | Oh I didn't read the pastey, I was just saying that he's an asshole! |
| 16:22.22 | Fisker | old foxlit |
| 16:22.30 | Fisker | so damn old |
| 16:22.32 | Cide | Fisker, rate my trolling? |
| 16:22.42 | Fisker | 0/10 |
| 16:22.46 | Cide | :( |
| 16:22.47 | Kalroth | wtf |
| 16:22.49 | Cide | I thought it was at least a 5 |
| 16:22.52 | Kalroth | he's trolling you, Cide |
| 16:22.55 | Fisker | trolling is a art |
| 16:23.06 | Cide | an art, sure |
| 16:23.13 | Jamash | trolling is a nart |
| 16:23.19 | Fisker | 4 character passwords nice |
| 16:23.34 | Lunessa | Cide: I'm going to have to down rank you for insufficient cruelty. |
| 16:23.36 | Cide | yeah, I definitely replaced every single character with an asterix |
| 16:23.42 | Fisker | you did, didn't you? |
| 16:23.50 | Cide | Lunessa, oh eat shit fucknut |
| 16:24.10 | Lunessa | There's the Cide I know and enjoy. |
| 16:24.32 | Cide | Fisker, go ahead and bruteforce me |
| 16:24.43 | Jamash | that's what she said |
| 16:24.47 | Cide | ^ |
| 16:25.01 | Fisker | that would be illegal Cide |
| 16:25.12 | Cide | I didn't know you were underage |
| 16:25.35 | Cide | my bad |
| 16:25.48 | Cide | Lunessa, sadly, I find myself going softer |
| 16:26.01 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 16:26.03 | Cide | need some fresh souls to terrorize methinks |
| 16:26.04 | Lopeppeppy | not many guys admit that. |
| 16:26.08 | Ackis | ok... |
| 16:26.18 | Ackis | cide wants Fisker to bruteforce him, now he's going softer |
| 16:26.20 | Wobin | that's what she... wait... |
| 16:26.42 | Cide | Lopeppeppy, well, what can I say? I'm a special kind of special. |
| 16:26.49 | Lunessa | Suddenly this channel is about a whole new level of depravity. |
| 16:26.53 | Lopeppeppy | That you are, most certainly. |
| 16:27.43 | Cide | brb making a cold, delicious salad |
| 16:29.08 | Ackis | and now Cide is tossing a salad |
| 16:29.31 | Cide | what? |
| 16:29.33 | Cide | I love salad |
| 16:29.35 | Cide | don't judge me |
| 16:29.50 | Cide | salad and fruity cocktails |
| 16:31.00 | Lunessa | With umbrellas and large wedges of pineapple in them. |
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| 16:31.15 | Cide | oops :) |
| 16:32.31 | Fisker | Cide |
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| 16:35.31 | Lopeppeppy | Pineapple! |
| 16:36.52 | Cide | pineapple is a funny word. teehee. |
| 16:37.04 | Jamash | pie napple |
| 16:37.33 | Jamash | pi na pull |
| 16:37.34 | Cide | pine stfuorikillyou apple |
| 16:42.47 | Shirik | I want two pina coladas |
| 16:43.01 | Shirik | I need one for each hand |
| 16:43.05 | Lopeppeppy | I want a beach. |
| 16:43.14 | Shirik | let's set sail with Captain Morgan, but never leave dry land |
| 16:43.25 | Jamash | I want a lifetime supply of Bendick's of Mayfair Bittermints |
| 16:43.26 | Cide | I want an appletini; slight on the tini |
| 16:43.54 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmm, Morgans. You know my fatal weakness too well, Shirik. |
| 16:44.16 | Lopeppeppy | Could be that whole "Peppy slugs it straight out of Slouken's bottle on in the parking lot" incident. |
| 16:52.49 | Shirik | haha |
| 16:52.51 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:EchoJapan |
| 16:52.59 | Shirik | Unblock Request reason: "I have a virus on my computer and it edits pages on itself but i have got rid of it earlier today" |
| 16:53.44 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%E0%B2%A0_%E0%B2%A0 |
| 16:54.16 | Cide | nice user page |
| 16:54.49 | Jamash | à¹Ì²à¹ |
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| 16:55.56 | Jamash | so, shaman preview |
| 16:56.05 | Cide | looks pretty sweet |
| 16:56.24 | Jamash | makes me not want to play my shaman till cata :-/ |
| 16:57.47 | nevcairiel | the design of that AoE heal sound interesting, cant wait to see whats in store for others |
| 16:59.52 | nevcairiel | also i like deep healing |
| 17:00.13 | Jamash | deep, penetrating healing |
| 17:00.19 | Jamash | wait, what were we talking about? |
| 17:00.35 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:00.36 | KarlKFI|work | armor penetrating healing |
| 17:01.02 | KarlKFI|work | atheist penetrating healing |
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| 17:01.47 | Kraps | hey guys |
| 17:01.49 | Kraps | hey guys |
| 17:01.55 | foxlit | "When this self-targeted buff is active, your spells are no longer interrupted by movement (!!!!)" |
| 17:01.56 | Jamash | hey guy |
| 17:01.56 | Kraps | say it with me |
| 17:02.02 | KarlKFI|work | i'm still waiting for a plate suit with stim packs |
| 17:02.08 | Kraps | HEALING. RAIN. |
| 17:02.19 | Kraps | you cant handle the power!!!!! |
| 17:02.36 | KarlKFI|work | immagine a ret pally stimmed |
| 17:02.49 | Jamash | stim = BL |
| 17:03.01 | KarlKFI|work | bad luck? |
| 17:03.03 | Jamash | bloodlust |
| 17:03.17 | KarlKFI|work | meh. that's nto self administered |
| 17:03.59 | Jamash | blood DKs get Hysteria |
| 17:04.05 | Wobin | hm |
| 17:04.06 | Wobin | spirit, eh? |
| 17:04.37 | batrick | shirik is a slave to wikipedia |
| 17:04.45 | Shirik | ^ |
| 17:05.39 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.46 | Wobin | share damage across two targets |
| 17:05.49 | Jamash | yeah |
| 17:05.50 | Lopeppeppy | But what about me, Shirik? *sniff* |
| 17:05.57 | Shirik | I am a slave to you too |
| 17:05.58 | nevcairiel | mitigate big hits, make healing easier |
| 17:05.58 | Shirik | don't worry |
| 17:06.04 | Cide | what about me, Shirik? |
| 17:06.09 | Shirik | no |
| 17:06.22 | batrick | i'd call you a whore shirik but a slave is by definition free |
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| 17:06.38 | Shirik | Wikipedia is free |
| 17:06.52 | nevcairiel | a slave is free? when did that happen? |
| 17:06.53 | Jamash | war is peace |
| 17:06.56 | Jamash | freedom is slavery |
| 17:07.01 | Jamash | ketchup is a vegetable |
| 17:07.16 | Wobin | night all |
| 17:07.49 | Jamash | I'm actually thinking of going to our local "tea party" tax day protest with a sign that says "War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength" |
| 17:09.41 | Kraps | Jamash: i'm sure people will be "yeah, awesome!" /facepalm |
| 17:12.38 | Fisker | Wikipedia is only free if your time is worth nothing |
| 17:14.30 | Kraps | so its perfect for you then? |
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| 17:22.06 | NeoTron | so shamans are getting judgements |
| 17:22.16 | Jamash | yep |
| 17:24.38 | Kraps | Yo dog, we heard you like to run so we put some running in your healing so you can heal while you run? |
| 17:24.47 | Ackis | My God, I hate April 1st... I'm still catching up on news and now a week after I still have to check the date |
| 17:25.04 | Kraps | btw healing rain will be nerfed |
| 17:25.34 | Torhal | Ackis: You like April 20th, though. |
| 17:26.03 | NeoTron | healing rain is pretty cool |
| 17:26.08 | NeoTron | targeted healing aoe ftw? |
| 17:27.03 | Ackis | Torhal: aye, that's a good day. Same with March 14th. |
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| 17:37.28 | Kraps | laters |
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| 17:40.13 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/mails |
| 17:40.13 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/mail/235/a-swift-zhevra/ |
| 17:40.18 | Adys | \o/ |
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| 17:42.15 | Gnarfoz | I hate arrays with keys that have spaces in them |
| 17:42.25 | Gnarfoz | *can* I even access them from the chat input box? |
| 17:42.45 | Gnarfoz | /dump QuickAuctionsDB.factionrealm.["Alliance - Das Syndikat"] for example doesn't work |
| 17:43.03 | Gnarfoz | I've got no clue, but I hate everyone who implements stuff like that :p |
| 17:43.09 | Adys | try [("Alliance - Das Syndikat")] |
| 17:43.27 | Gnarfoz | mhhh. |
| 17:43.51 | Gnarfoz | 19:43:49|Dump: ERROR: [string "return QuickAuctionsDB.factionrealm.[("Alliance - Das Syndikat"..."]:1: '<name>' expected near '[' |
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| 17:44.09 | davis | hello |
| 17:44.22 | Thunder_Child | hi |
| 17:44.42 | Adys | greetings |
| 17:44.50 | Gnarfoz | , earthling |
| 17:44.56 | davis | lol |
| 17:44.57 | Thunder_Child | dont listen to Adys, it's a trap |
| 17:45.36 | cog|work | http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6-Uxg3BTLvg/S7Moc8fNRvI/AAAAAAAABjU/a2AufTryi7U/633526520114663387athism.jpg?imgmax=800 |
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| 17:49.23 | Jamash | anyone know offhand how to detect UI scale changes as they happen? |
| 17:49.45 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/say_what.jpg |
| 17:49.47 | cog|work | secure hook UIParent:SetScale? |
| 17:50.08 | Jamash | I'll give that a whirl, thanks |
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| 17:50.59 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/winland.jpg |
| 17:51.55 | batrick | awesome |
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| 17:54.46 | Lunessa | So wait, with all those swedish blondes and wrestling with polar bears who needs "think about suicide"? |
| 17:56.47 | Fisker | no Adys ! |
| 17:56.55 | Adys | ? |
| 17:57.02 | Fisker | Zero (0) Parachutes <-i sure hope so btw |
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| 17:57.07 | Fisker | grief tool number one |
| 17:57.39 | Fisker | http://db.mmo-champion.com/mail/290/congratulations-vanquisher/ <-want |
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| 17:57.51 | Shirik | lol mikma |
| 17:58.01 | Fisker | anyway guesstimate when i get my rocket mount Adys |
| 17:58.06 | Shirik | NEVAR |
| 17:58.33 | Jamash | I'm a rocket mount, burning up the sky something something |
| 17:58.38 | Adys | lol Fisker |
| 17:58.42 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 17:58.54 | Fisker | "I'm dumb" -Shirik |
| 17:58.55 | Fisker | :( |
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| 17:59.13 | Lunessa | Fisker: It reminds me, slightly, or the movie "The Last Starfighter" |
| 17:59.39 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! | <Fisker> "I'm dumb" |
| 18:00.11 | Shirik | oh so I found out something awesome recently |
| 18:00.17 | Adys | [18:59:38] *** Shirik has changed the topic to: "I'm dumb" |
| 18:00.37 | Shirik | Did you know that the US was trying to make antimatter weapons during the cold war? |
| 18:00.43 | Fisker | yes Shirik |
| 18:00.45 | Adys | who didnt? |
| 18:00.45 | Fisker | i did know |
| 18:00.49 | Shirik | I didn't :( |
| 18:00.58 | Jamash | arm the positron cannon! |
| 18:01.04 | Lunessa | Shirik: Starting as fgar back as the 1950s. |
| 18:01.16 | Shirik | dude we could get warp drive before I die! |
| 18:01.21 | Fisker | what's a fgar Lunessa? |
| 18:01.27 | Shirik | All we need is an antimatter reactor |
| 18:01.32 | Lunessa | Fisker: My shitty typing. |
| 18:01.46 | Fisker | you get nothing Shirik |
| 18:01.52 | Lunessa | Shirik: Less Star Trek, more Physics please. |
| 18:02.13 | Shirik | what's the difference? |
| 18:02.25 | Jamash | dilithium crystals, hit by klingon missiles, no! |
| 18:02.40 | Shirik | If I put two AA batteries together does it become dilithium? |
| 18:02.44 | Jamash | YES |
| 18:02.55 | Shirik | omg patenting brb |
| 18:03.23 | Fisker | antimatter viagra |
| 18:03.43 | Fisker | i don't know why btw |
| 18:03.45 | Lunessa | Keeping it up just long enough for the big bang? |
| 18:03.50 | Shirik | ..... |
| 18:04.27 | Fisker | i was like "wat" |
| 18:06.14 | Lunessa | That's and "rage" are your usual states of being. |
| 18:06.34 | Fisker | wat, rage and :3 to be precise |
| 18:06.51 | Lunessa | Note to self, made public: When you change the joke, be sure to proofread extra carefully before hitting "enter." |
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| 18:10.18 | Jamash | sadly, UIParent:SetScale() does not seem to be called when changing the UI scale via the video options panel |
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| 18:13.09 | Fisker | omfg |
| 18:13.11 | Fisker | good job |
| 18:13.46 | Fisker | since when did they remove the inscription research cooldown? |
| 18:14.20 | olafski | oO |
| 18:14.45 | Fisker | i just did 4 |
| 18:14.52 | Fisker | but i already got them all so i got nothing |
| 18:14.56 | Fisker | other than scrolls |
| 18:15.20 | olafski | I thought you got a new one guaranteed, if there was something available |
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| 18:15.37 | Fisker | there isn't something available |
| 18:15.39 | Fisker | i researched it all |
| 18:15.55 | olafski | so why did you do 4 when the first one already "told" you that there's nothing |
| 18:16.22 | Fisker | Because i made a mistake? |
| 18:16.42 | Fisker | was just browsing around the trade window looking for some recipes when i clicked create all |
| 18:16.54 | olafski | owned :( |
| 18:17.05 | Fisker | very |
| 18:17.24 | durcyn | stupid dane |
| 18:17.42 | Lunessa | PWNT |
| 18:18.12 | Fisker | not my fault :/ |
| 18:18.32 | Fisker | Because of all the LHC talk i've begun staying up at night thinking about what would happen if they actually created a black hole |
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| 18:19.03 | Fisker | and then there was this guy who talked about being sucked into a black hole how painful it would be because of the timedisortion |
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| 18:31.11 | Arathros | fisker they removed it? |
| 18:32.05 | Fisker | removed what? |
| 18:32.33 | Arathros | cd |
| 18:33.38 | Lunessa | Fisker: I rather suspect that gravity effects would kill your soft fleshy brain long before you'd encounter time-dilation effects, and even then unconsciousness would come even before death. |
| 18:34.31 | recluse | Torhal: ping |
| 18:34.41 | Torhal | recluse: Aye? |
| 18:34.53 | Fisker | sure Lunessa |
| 18:35.24 | foxlit | Pfft, everyone knows you pop out of the black hole about 20 seconds after you're sucked in. |
| 18:35.26 | Gintaro | You'd be high on chemicals released by your brain if it would take more then a couple of seconds anyway |
| 18:35.37 | foxlit | Unfortunately, by that time the protoss murdered the other half of your army, so you're pretty much dead. |
| 18:35.40 | recluse | Torhal: A few days ago, you mentioned xset -r, and it was working for a bit, but lately it spams the enter key. Ever had that problem, or have a clue what could fix it? |
| 18:35.55 | Gintaro | update your wine |
| 18:36.03 | Gintaro | no need for xset -r then |
| 18:36.27 | Torhal | Gintaro: I'm running the latest Wine beta and I've had to use xset -r for over a year now |
| 18:36.36 | recluse | hmm, i swear i have the newest wine |
| 18:36.40 | Gintaro | Then you're doing it wrong |
| 18:36.46 | Torhal | Bullshit. :P |
| 18:36.51 | Thunder_Child | ok, who remebers the centurions? |
| 18:36.58 | Thunder_Child | remembers* |
| 18:37.01 | Gintaro | Cause I haven't used xset for a couple of months now |
| 18:37.04 | Torhal | recluse: Anywho - xset -r off makes your enter key spammy? |
| 18:38.27 | recluse | Torhal: right, infinite enter key spam both in term and game. if i C-c in term, it stops, but it turns on repeat |
| 18:38.54 | Torhal | So xset -r on |
| 18:39.01 | Torhal | If it's broken one way, undo it |
| 18:40.07 | recluse | hmm |
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| 18:40.28 | Torhal | Or you could have keyboard-repetition turned on for your desktop environment |
| 18:40.33 | Torhal | Or window manager, or whatever |
| 18:41.14 | recluse | i can check that, but seems odd that turning off repeat would spam the enter key XD |
| 18:41.22 | Torhal | Very odd |
| 18:42.56 | recluse | is xset even part of wine, or an x11 bin? |
| 18:42.56 | Torhal | Gintaro: WHat's your Xorg version? |
| 18:43.01 | Torhal | recluse: X11 |
| 18:44.18 | Torhal | The key repeat wasn't an issue until Xorg 1.6, BTW. |
| 18:44.26 | recluse | XD |
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| 18:48.43 | recluse | lots of google results on the issue, but can't seem to find any solutions lol |
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| 18:49.01 | Torhal | And everything is pointing to X, not Wine. |
| 18:57.31 | Fisker | sweet |
| 18:57.47 | Fisker | Blizzard took out the only thing i was looking forward to in Cataclysm :( |
| 18:57.49 | Fisker | Also of note, you only get one set of passive talent tree bonuses: the tree in which youâve spent the most points. Sub-speccing in another tree will not net you those bonuses in addition. |
| 18:58.29 | Lopeppeppy | puts spiders in alestane's coca cola. |
| 18:58.45 | alestane | ackBlurgle! |
| 18:59.09 | alestane | You have very singluar, *strange* ways of telling people you ike them, you know that? |
| 18:59.11 | Ackis | http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wowbeta.png cataclysm pre-beta invites being sent out |
| 18:59.23 | alestane | like* even |
| 19:00.40 | recluse | my shaman alt is really pissed about the proposed changes to their debuff removal abilities. other than that i haven't seen too much that's bad |
| 19:00.58 | Fisker | oh yeah Ackis |
| 19:01.03 | Fisker | give me your key since you don't play anymore |
| 19:01.04 | Fisker | hoho |
| 19:01.24 | Fisker | verified if it's legit btw? |
| 19:01.28 | Fisker | never seen that kind of mail before |
| 19:01.44 | Ackis | Fisker: crunchgear is a decent/legit site |
| 19:01.54 | Fisker | closest i recall was Blizzard writing that you were on the beta list |
| 19:01.54 | Ackis | the article wasn't trying to scam anything |
| 19:02.10 | Ackis | only stating that blizz sent out a mail asking for their battle.net accounts |
| 19:02.14 | Lunessa | Wanted: Better Twitter App for my iPhone than TweetDeck - recommendations anyone? |
| 19:02.25 | Fisker | wasn't saying it was a scam |
| 19:02.28 | Fisker | just if it was a fake |
| 19:02.33 | Ackis | I doubt it |
| 19:02.41 | Fisker | but i guess the journalist version of the beta invites are a bit different |
| 19:02.57 | Fisker | when did they get it with SC2? |
| 19:03.02 | Ackis | http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/04/07/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-beta-pre-invites-incoming/ |
| 19:03.51 | Lopeppeppy | Let me ask, Lunessa. |
| 19:04.22 | Ackis | Lunessa: I use UberTwitter for my BB, I think they have an iPhone app |
| 19:05.06 | Lopeppeppy | I see Echofon in my stream, and Tweetie, and Tweetdeck... |
| 19:06.06 | Lopeppeppy | And Twitterrific is what the bf uses. |
| 19:07.07 | Fisker | i don't use twitter |
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| 19:07.44 | Lunessa | Thanks. I'll check those out. TweetDeck has a terrible reply feature for Facebook integration and some crashes that annoy me. :) |
| 19:08.31 | recluse | Torhal: Hmm. Going into the Admin->Keyboard gui and disabling repeat there works perfect, but talk about an annoying alternative to a wow startup script. |
| 19:10.45 | Fisker | i don't use twitter |
| 19:11.13 | Torhal | recluse: Ick |
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| 19:16.45 | Fisker | but i don't use twitter |
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| 19:20.03 | olafski | how can you not use twitter :O |
| 19:20.16 | olafski | madness! |
| 19:20.16 | Ackis | I use twitter! |
| 19:20.24 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/jpasula |
| 19:20.25 | Ackis | that's me |
| 19:20.27 | Ackis | I'm important |
| 19:20.30 | olafski | I bet your twitter announces all your 360 achievements |
| 19:20.47 | Ackis | nah just a summary once a day |
| 19:21.00 | ckknight | WTB Cataclysm, kthx |
| 19:21.02 | Ackis | I have gained x achievements in y games for z TA points. |
| 19:21.28 | olafski | I knew it |
| 19:21.43 | Fisker | give cd-key ckknight |
| 19:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | Mine is much more fascinating. |
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| 19:24.09 | Lunessa | My Twitter account is used to say occasionally clever, witty or vicious things. |
| 19:24.49 | olafski | mine is used just to follow blizzard because they claimed to be giving away free stuff there |
| 19:24.53 | olafski | but I never check if they actually do |
| 19:24.55 | Fisker | i hate twitter |
| 19:30.18 | olafski | Fable III has 'The Greatest Cast of Any Computer Game' |
| 19:30.19 | olafski | :D |
| 19:30.31 | Fisker | console game* |
| 19:30.32 | olafski | and you can do ANYTHING YOU WANT! |
| 19:31.24 | Gintaro | What about resell the game? |
| 19:31.31 | Gintaro | s/resell/reselling/ |
| 19:31.54 | Fisker | why would you resell a game you pirated? |
| 19:33.06 | Ackis | why do women need to tweet about their "cramps"? /grumble |
| 19:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | Why do men tweet about their games? |
| 19:33.41 | olafski | why does anyone tweet |
| 19:33.55 | Lopeppeppy | to please themselves, not an audience |
| 19:34.37 | Ackis | if you're comparing game tweeting to cramps... well ~lart :P |
| 19:34.38 | Fisker | twitter is a cancer |
| 19:34.55 | Lopeppeppy | each is tweeting what is interesting to them. |
| 19:37.05 | Lunessa | Twitter is both narcissism and entertainment. |
| 19:37.36 | Lopeppeppy | If you don't take it seriously, it's a hoot. |
| 19:41.44 | Shirik | (15:33:46) (+Lopeppeppy) to please themselves |
| 19:41.51 | DWSR | hahaha |
| 19:42.51 | DWSR | good OOC quote. |
| 19:43.03 | Adys | Anyone in here who won an arena netherdrake/frostwyrm (at any moment) and has a screenshot of the mail? |
| 19:43.04 | DWSR | WTB Warlock Cataclysm information so I can know whether or not to cancel my subscription |
| 19:44.02 | DWSR | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/wow-cataclysm-warlock-changes/ <--- Wow. |
| 19:45.05 | Adys | The Hellfire will no longer cause damage to the witch. |
| 19:45.13 | Adys | you can just see how hard these guys worked on the translation |
| 19:45.34 | Lopeppeppy | DWSR, I give good OOC all the time. |
| 19:45.48 | DWSR | That's what she said. |
| 19:45.50 | DWSR | Adys: Rofl, inorite? |
| 19:47.37 | DWSR | Q: You didnât answer the most important shaman question! What about Sentry Totem? |
| 19:47.38 | DWSR | A: The Cataclysm is a time of great upheaval. Deathwingâs return to Azeroth tore a hole in the fabric of the universe that tragically resulted in the ultimate and irrevocable destruction of all Sentry Totems. Level designers are contemplating a shrine for the Sentry Totem near that of Uther the Lightbringer. We know shaman players will greet this news with grief, but as with all class changes weâll have to get into beta before anything is final. |
| 19:47.41 | DWSR | Win |
| 19:48.31 | tekkub | I used a sentry totem once |
| 19:48.52 | Ackis | wasn't there an exploit involving sentry totem? |
| 19:48.57 | Lopeppeppy | I love that answer, btw. |
| 19:50.21 | Fisker | there's been an exploit involving a lot of things Ackis |
| 19:50.42 | Ackis | I'm involved in an exploit? |
| 19:51.04 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 19:51.09 | olafski | sentry totems were fun in vanilla apparently |
| 19:51.13 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 19:51.22 | Torhal | Ackis: You exploit your Xbox. |
| 19:51.27 | Torhal | Mercilessly. |
| 19:51.28 | DWSR | Dude, this fucking warlock info trasnlation is amazingly BAD. |
| 19:51.33 | DWSR | Does anyone in here speak Spanish? |
| 19:51.52 | olafski | if it was manually translated why didn't they call it warlock instead of witch :/ |
| 19:52.06 | olafski | I'll just wait for the english version :P |
| 19:52.11 | Adys | it's up, olafski |
| 19:52.18 | Adys | but yeah it's an autotranslation |
| 19:52.25 | DWSR | olafski: IT's an auto-late. |
| 19:52.40 | DWSR | If someone who speaks spanish can go in and do a manual translation, that would be awesome. |
| 19:53.26 | olafski | oh it even says that above the page =( |
| 19:53.29 | DWSR | yes |
| 19:53.53 | DWSR | And apparently they pushed back all of the unreleased class information by 1 day. |
| 19:53.58 | Lopeppeppy | Zarhym posts in English... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24038461667&postId=242338426022&sid=1#0 |
| 19:54.09 | DWSR | thank you |
| 19:54.36 | DWSR | Also, did we mention it uses green fire? Yep. Instant cast. |
| 19:54.41 | DWSR | WINWINWINWINWINWINWIN |
| 19:54.47 | DWSR | Blizzard has won the internets. |
| 19:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | I follow Warcraft on Twitter. *grin* |
| 19:55.16 | DWSR | rofl |
| 19:55.24 | DWSR | They're giving Warlocks FM. |
| 19:55.27 | NeoTron | GREEN FIRE |
| 19:55.44 | DWSR | They need to backport green fire. |
| 19:56.01 | DWSR | Soul Fire + Soul Burn = Instant cast. <--- YES PLEASE. |
| 19:56.46 | DWSR | CAN HAS 40k SOULFIRE INSTACRITS. |
| 19:56.59 | Adys | it's not like 40k will be a lot next expansion |
| 19:57.01 | Ackis | have they done priest changes? |
| 19:57.02 | Lopeppeppy | That's what the PTR will prevent. :) |
| 19:57.13 | Adys | with clothies getting lots of stam in cc |
| 19:57.25 | DWSR | Curse of Agony and Curse of Doom will be converted into Bane of Agony and Bane of Doom. Bane spells are considered magic instead of curses. This means you will be able to cast one Bane (e.g. Bane of Agony) and one Curse (e.g. Curse of Elements) on a single target. |
| 19:57.35 | foxlit | DWSR: Can has 200k HP pools? |
| 19:57.39 | Adys | i'm guessing mages with 60-70k hp, druids/warrs in last stand with 200k |
| 19:58.16 | Ackis | Adys: can't people hit 100k now w/ buffs/abilities? |
| 19:58.26 | DWSR | No. |
| 19:58.33 | DWSR | Not unless you're talking on something like Hodir. |
| 19:58.37 | Adys | seen druids quite close to it fully buffed |
| 19:58.47 | Adys | like 85-90k |
| 19:58.53 | NeoTron | I've seen over 90 |
| 19:59.03 | NeoTron | in ICC |
| 19:59.35 | DWSR | Oh, you meant HP. |
| 19:59.38 | NeoTron | hmm. Demonic circle + soul burn is quite a hot combo for some fights |
| 19:59.39 | DWSR | I thought you meant spells. |
| 19:59.41 | DWSR | NeoTron: Yeah. |
| 19:59.46 | foxlit | Wasn't one of their goals to bring tank and non-tank HP closer? |
| 19:59.53 | foxlit | 50/200 seems like a bit of a spread. |
| 20:00.16 | NeoTron | foxlit: considering now it's like 30/65 in icc |
| 20:00.26 | NeoTron | it's a lot larger spread if it was to be 50/200 |
| 20:01.30 | Adys | foxlit: 200k in last stand i can see it happening |
| 20:01.51 | Adys | i was thinking something like 80k for a rogue, 120k for a tank |
| 20:02.14 | Adys | i think the goal was to get plate wearers and non-plate wearers closer to each other |
| 20:02.25 | DWSR | woot. |
| 20:02.27 | Adys | so no more fury warr with twice your hp and twice your dmg |
| 20:02.28 | DWSR | they're redoing meta. |
| 20:02.29 | alestane | "The succubus will no longer have Soothing Kiss, but will instead have Whiplash, which knocks back all enemies within 8 yards." sexy |
| 20:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | Masochist. |
| 20:03.28 | alestane | I'm a warlock, I'm not on that end of the whip. |
| 20:04.13 | Adys | after over 200 wintergrasp wins (~210 matches total) |
| 20:04.14 | Adys | finally |
| 20:04.18 | Adys | I got it |
| 20:04.33 | Adys | I got 1/20 on Didn't Stand a Chance |
| 20:04.38 | NeoTron | alestane: useful for pvp? |
| 20:04.40 | ajmitch | no more dot clipping for locks will simplify it a bit |
| 20:04.44 | NeoTron | since no spec would use a succy for pve |
| 20:04.59 | Adys | maybe i'll get the 19 other credits before my second son is born |
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| 20:08.19 | Sixen | Supposedly Cata beta started? |
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| 20:08.58 | nevcairiel | dont believe rumors |
| 20:09.03 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 20:10.26 | Ackis | spirals. |
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| 20:10.46 | Torhal | stirs in the other direction. |
| 20:10.54 | nevcairiel | foxlit: they want to bring the actual stamina on gear closer to each other, but i believe talents and stances will still make quite a difference |
| 20:10.54 | Shirik | yes it has, Sixen. If you give me your password I can get you in. |
| 20:10.56 | Lopeppeppy | RAGE! |
| 20:11.05 | Shirik | ... |
| 20:11.12 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 20:11.15 | foxlit | nevcairiel: hm. I wonder. |
| 20:11.26 | foxlit | You could go with mitigation for tanks, though |
| 20:11.44 | Zyonin | Hmm, both the Warlock and Shaman changes look interesting. I just wonder what they have in store for Druids. |
| 20:12.02 | DWSR | Warlock changes look like they're making Affliction superfaceroll |
| 20:12.05 | Zyonin | Anyway, enough goofing off, back to rooting through rc files. |
| 20:12.08 | Ackis | Shirik: ********** is my password, get me in please |
| 20:12.47 | Zyonin | Well Affliction did need some love however there will be more changes, they are only giving us a taste. Besides everything could be nerfed into the ground by the time of release |
| 20:12.49 | foxlit | Do paladins just gem for stamina in every socket? |
| 20:13.04 | nevcairiel | I know my druid does |
| 20:13.12 | nevcairiel | and my warrior too, basically :d |
| 20:13.25 | Zyonin | Not that I mind Warlocks getting nerfed into the ground, more Cat food for my Druid |
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| 20:13.43 | Sixen | You guys sure? =| |
| 20:13.46 | ajmitch | I've seen a few paladin tanks gemming for strength, for whatever reason |
| 20:14.01 | Sixen | Supposedly press only. |
| 20:14.05 | nevcairiel | Sixen: why would you think it did? |
| 20:14.14 | ajmitch | Sixen: why, did you get an email from genuine-wrold-of-warcaft.com saying the beta's open, give us your details? |
| 20:14.33 | Sixen | I didn't, someone else did... whom I am inclined to believe :P |
| 20:15.07 | Ackis | FYI: Kyrgyzstan government ousted in revolt |
| 20:15.08 | nevcairiel | he is pulling your leg |
| 20:15.22 | Ackis | Sixen: http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/wowbeta.png |
| 20:15.23 | Zyonin | If beta gets started, MMO-C will be over it like stink on shit |
| 20:15.27 | Fisker | ^^ Ackis |
| 20:15.39 | Sixen | Yeah, that Ackis |
| 20:15.40 | Sixen | :P |
| 20:15.49 | Fisker | more like rose deoderant Zyonin |
| 20:15.59 | Ackis | it's not that beta has started |
| 20:16.05 | nevcairiel | that doesnt say it started |
| 20:16.07 | Ackis | it's that pre-beta registration has started |
| 20:16.11 | nevcairiel | it just advices people to get a battle.net account |
| 20:16.22 | Zyonin | Nothing really new there |
| 20:16.27 | Sixen | Gotcha. |
| 20:16.42 | Ackis | won't get a beta invite this time around |
| 20:16.58 | cog|work | won't either |
| 20:16.59 | Zyonin | I have never got one, nor do I really care. |
| 20:17.00 | Fisker | should check battle.net if they have a expansion image laying around |
| 20:17.27 | nevcairiel | there is no link like the SC2 link thats been there for ages anyway |
| 20:17.58 | nevcairiel | but i guess its a generic beta profile |
| 20:18.02 | Fisker | maybe they learned for this time around? |
| 20:19.00 | Ackis | Fisker: http://i48.tinypic.com/majtxi.jpg photoshop that to add a cata beta to it please |
| 20:20.55 | Sixen | lol |
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| 20:21.34 | nevcairiel | I guess beta will start next month or so, after they announced all the big changes, so they get that out before players leak it everywhere |
| 20:22.01 | nevcairiel | the big announcements are usually a sign that its close |
| 20:22.44 | Adys | [21:15:23] <@Zyonin> If beta gets started, MMO-C will be over it like stink on shit |
| 20:22.49 | Adys | yes well |
| 20:22.52 | Adys | you do stink |
| 20:23.30 | Adys | also i lost my old d2 keys :/ |
| 20:23.30 | Zyonin | And how would you know Adys. If you are close enough to smell, then I have to use my home invasion tool |
| 20:23.35 | Adys | so annoyed |
| 20:23.46 | Adys | who says i'd need to be close |
| 20:23.50 | Adys | you really do stink, man. |
| 20:24.22 | Zyonin | Uh huh, I would not be suprised if it was your own cloud that was the culprit :D |
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| 20:26.21 | recluse | Torhal: Found a fix for xset r =D http://recluse.pastebin.com/k723uqb6 |
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| 20:31.52 | olafski | bleh the portal to orgrimmar you get in the wrath gate questline does not lead to real orgrimmar =( |
| 20:31.54 | Gintaro | ah gnome, there's your problem |
| 20:31.59 | recluse | lol |
| 20:32.02 | olafski | wanted a free visit to my trainer |
| 20:32.18 | nevcairiel | olafski: it is real ogrimmar |
| 20:32.30 | olafski | yehyeh phased :P |
| 20:32.32 | nevcairiel | but as long as you're on the quest, the whole city is phased out =) |
| 20:32.39 | olafski | not all npcs are there and that is annoying :P |
| 20:33.03 | Gintaro | Oh right, I haven't done the horde version of that event yet |
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| 20:33.31 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 20:33.43 | Shirik | Lightroom 3's noise reduction is a million times better |
| 20:34.10 | Ackis | http://mashable.com/2010/04/07/foursquarefox/ yay foresquare extension on firefox! |
| 20:34.12 | Kraps | its fucking hot today |
| 20:34.46 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:34.50 | Fisker | lightroom sucks |
| 20:34.55 | Shirik | your face sucks |
| 20:34.57 | Fisker | Ackis firefox sucks |
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| 20:35.06 | Fisker | Shirik only if presented with lollipop |
| 20:35.08 | alestane | It's 88 here today, Kraps. |
| 20:35.08 | alestane | In the middle of April. |
| 20:35.15 | Gintaro | people who willingly give up their location suck |
| 20:35.33 | Gintaro | "Hello, I'm not home, please rob me" |
| 20:35.56 | olafski | I find the horde version much better gintaro |
| 20:36.04 | olafski | though maybe that's because I've done the alliance version about 9 times |
| 20:36.08 | Kraps | alestane: would here be new york? |
| 20:36.08 | Gintaro | I doubt I can do it again |
| 20:36.19 | alestane | Massachusetts, Kraps. |
| 20:36.27 | NeoTron | So. Global Agenda is kind of fun. IMHO of course. |
| 20:36.39 | Kraps | yeah heard about boston |
| 20:36.42 | alestane | Not that far off. We must be getting a gust up from Arizona or something. |
| 20:36.49 | alestane | What did you hear? |
| 20:37.19 | recluse | Gintaro: kde? xfce? |
| 20:37.37 | Kraps | near record-breaking blah blah |
| 20:37.54 | alestane | Heat? Probably. Rain? Definitely. |
| 20:38.05 | olafski | the battle for the undercity is definitely better as horde imo :P |
| 20:38.26 | Kraps | the record is already broken in nyc |
| 20:38.54 | alestane | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-15545.html |
| 20:39.41 | Kraps | i dont get it |
| 20:39.56 | alestane | Also: "Registered for next semester classes drunk. Let's hope I didn't accidently sign up for history of dinosaurs again..." |
| 20:40.06 | Gintaro | recluse, kde |
| 20:40.09 | Torhal | recluse: Ah, so there's a Gnome bug atop the X bug. No wonder it shat itself. |
| 20:40.13 | Gintaro | mostly because I can |
| 20:40.27 | recluse | XD |
| 20:40.33 | Gintaro | Though I do have strigi/desktop search disabled |
| 20:40.44 | Jamash | I used to despise kde for being bloated |
| 20:40.50 | Jamash | now I'm running windows 7 |
| 20:40.59 | Jamash | so, yeah |
| 20:41.04 | Gintaro | I run both |
| 20:41.09 | Gintaro | I like Win 7 |
| 20:41.12 | Fisker | i almost died due to MrPlow :( |
| 20:41.35 | Gintaro | At least I'm not getting driver issues |
| 20:42.05 | Gintaro | "<insert random DRM protection" driver has been disabled due to compatibility problems |
| 20:42.12 | Jamash | heh |
| 20:42.16 | Gintaro | Luckily the game still worked |
| 20:42.47 | Gintaro | And I'm even running MSE |
| 20:43.23 | Gintaro | One of the less annoying malware/virus suites out there |
| 20:44.12 | Kraps | i hate you guys |
| 20:44.24 | Gintaro | Who here has already trolled chatroulette? |
| 20:44.24 | Kraps | just felt like sharing |
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| 20:45.11 | Gintaro | Looks like noone cared Kraps |
| 20:45.35 | Kraps | see, i dont either |
| 20:45.41 | Kraps | heat sucks |
| 20:45.53 | Gintaro | heat > cold |
| 20:46.12 | Kraps | the lock preview is up |
| 20:46.22 | Gintaro | since taking off clothes > putting on clothes |
| 20:46.31 | nevcairiel | but you can always put on more |
| 20:46.36 | nevcairiel | at some point you cant take off anymore |
| 20:46.46 | Fisker | hello nevcairiel |
| 20:47.05 | Gintaro | Then I'll stand under the shower |
| 20:47.08 | Kraps | people never pay attention to "Keep in mind that this is an early preview and that these modifications are still under development, so you may see further adjustments to the listed changes as we get closer to launch." |
| 20:47.20 | nevcairiel | Kraps: of course not =) |
| 20:47.27 | Gintaro | What?! |
| 20:47.34 | Gintaro | These changes aren't final? |
| 20:47.50 | Adys | Shadowed: ping |
| 20:48.00 | Kraps | hey locks finally get green fire rofl |
| 20:48.10 | nevcairiel | for one spell only, though :D |
| 20:48.22 | Jamash | wait what |
| 20:49.02 | Jamash | AWESOME |
| 20:49.31 | Gintaro | this just in: green fire is OP, blizzard grabbing the nerf-bat |
| 20:50.12 | Kraps | "Soul Burn has no mana or health costs and is off the global cooldown." OP dude |
| 20:50.42 | Gintaro | So its free damage |
| 20:50.55 | Ackis | you can only use it 3x in a battle |
| 20:50.58 | Jamash | Demon Soul = hawtsome |
| 20:50.59 | Gintaro | Well, I don't care about anything but rogues |
| 20:51.08 | Jamash | rogues are bad |
| 20:51.13 | Gintaro | Uhuh |
| 20:51.15 | Gintaro | Need buffs |
| 20:51.26 | Gintaro | turn up the bandaid skill plox, back to 15% |
| 20:51.31 | Kraps | "All warlock damage-over-time (DoT) spells will benefit from crit and haste innately. Haste will no longer act to reduce the DoT's duration, but rather to add additional ticks. When reapplying a DoT, you can no longer "clip" the final tick. Instead, this will just add duration to the spell, similar to how Everlasting Affliction currently works." |
| 20:51.32 | nevcairiel | can only use Soul Burn 3 times in every fight, though |
| 20:51.44 | Kraps | COME ON DO THAT TO FLAME SHOCK TOO |
| 20:51.58 | nevcairiel | Kraps: i bet all DoT refreshing will work like that |
| 20:52.03 | ajmitch | Kraps: they're making locks easy to play for bad players like me |
| 20:52.18 | nevcairiel | DoT clipping was annoying for everyone |
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| 20:52.44 | Ackis | everything in wow was easy for bad players to do :P |
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| 20:55.14 | Jamash | "demon bolt" is a terrible name for a spell, I hope that's just a placeholder |
| 20:56.09 | Kraps | dude. its a bolt. from a demon. |
| 20:56.11 | zenzelezz | when I hear it, I picture a fel guard being thrown at an enemy |
| 20:56.13 | Kraps | duh |
| 20:56.35 | Jamash | FELDOUKEN |
| 20:56.44 | olafski | yoga felguard |
| 20:56.49 | Dashkal | Soul burn had better have some sort of cooldown at least. 3X insta-Soulfire is just a tidge of burst |
| 20:57.57 | Jamash | I'm sure it'll have a cooldown similar to judgments and the shaman thing |
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| 20:58.43 | Dashkal | I hope so. But I can't believe they didn't think of that case so something will be done. |
| 20:59.03 | Fisker | http://www.news.com.au/technology/lads-mag-editor-blows-whistle-on-video-games/story-e6frfro0-1225850507467 <-owned |
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| 21:01.06 | Kraps | "Wow, this is gona be exiting" yeah but thats gonna be entering |
| 21:01.19 | Fisker | snap Kraps |
| 21:04.25 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5511711/world-of-warcraft-cataclysm-beta-is-totally-nigh |
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| 21:11.36 | Fisker | http://www.wowhead.com/blog=151699 <-sweet europe only consists of Germany and UK :3 |
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| 21:20.55 | Ackis | Fisker: no one cares about your country!!! |
| 21:21.04 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 21:22.56 | alestane | THere's an epithet for you..."What a pleasant little waste of humanity." |
| 21:23.42 | Lunessa | alestane: Sounds like Eric Idle and George Carlin worked that out in a backroom deal. |
| 21:25.50 | foxlit | They nerfed Marauders! |
| 21:25.53 | foxlit | Outrage! |
| 21:26.00 | Ackis | MW2 Stimulus Package sold 2.5 million copies |
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| 21:27.15 | Fisker | ... |
| 21:28.02 | Ackis | ...... |
| 21:28.09 | Jamash | ......... |
| 21:28.18 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2010/04/07/cataclysm-class-changes-warlock/ "The initial post was a Spanish Translation from Google. We now have the full English version up." |
| 21:28.25 | Kraps | how in the hell... |
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| 21:29.02 | Zyn | Ackis , that is 2.5 million too many |
| 21:29.10 | Ackis | Zyn: I agree |
| 21:29.51 | Zyn | "sup guise, heard you liekd maps so here's sum remakes .. oh btw, you have to pay a million Bison dollars" |
| 21:30.31 | Fisker | there really should be laws against it |
| 21:30.37 | Fisker | btw Kraps |
| 21:30.46 | Fisker | the best part is |
| 21:30.48 | Fisker | "Update - The real preview is now up!" |
| 21:30.56 | Fisker | Spanish people aren't real :o |
| 21:31.16 | Kraps | mmo champ has the same thing :/ |
| 21:33.31 | Kraps | why even post a google translated version, even if its first? |
| 21:34.11 | Fisker | because your mom? |
| 21:34.29 | Kraps | actually, your mom |
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| 21:34.46 | Fisker | your fault Ackis |
| 21:35.49 | DWSR_ | Kill me now. |
| 21:35.54 | DWSR_ | JAVA LABS FTL |
| 21:36.47 | Kraps | ~kill DWSR |
| 21:36.48 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited anti-meson gun at DWSR |
| 21:37.00 | Ackis | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton#Dates_of_rank <-- regular army is linked everytime, national army is linked the first time it appears whereas http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_S._Patton#Rank_comparison_to_Eisenhower only has them linked the first time they appear |
| 21:37.03 | Ackis | which is correct? |
| 21:37.47 | DWSR_ | Ackis: Shouldn't it be every time for both? |
| 21:38.17 | Ackis | that's what I think |
| 21:39.20 | Kraps | Fisker: why do Europeans have such low self-esteem? http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/12947102449/cataclysm-class-info-released-internationally/ |
| 21:40.01 | foxlit | "We're thrilled to announce that registration for Google Code Jam 2010 has opened! And even better, the onsite finals will be held in Google's Dublin office." |
| 21:40.28 | foxlit | "Visit http://code.google.com/codejam to register, get up to speed on the rules, and practice on problems from previous contests. [...] The qualification round starts on May 7th, 2010 (find your local time at http://code.google.com/codejam/schedule.html), and after four rounds of online competition, the top 25 competitors will be flown to Google's Dublin office to match wits for the $5,000 first prize -- and the title of Code Jam |
| 21:40.28 | foxlit | Champion!" |
| 21:40.43 | Fisker | dunno Kraps |
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| 21:44.12 | DWSR_ | To be honest, the release times have been favouring Europeans, from what I've seen. |
| 21:44.26 | DWSR_ | It was during the business day that the stuff was released here, whereas in Europe it's about dinner time. |
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| 21:45.51 | Fisker | yeah i want to read the changes while working rather than when eating |
| 21:45.56 | Fisker | so definitely US advantage |
| 21:46.28 | DWSR_ | Except if you're reading the changes you're probably not working, now are you? |
| 21:46.34 | Fisker | exactly |
| 21:46.42 | Fisker | i want to eat, not work |
| 21:46.54 | DWSR_ | Intravenous nutrition, tbh. |
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| 21:53.57 | nicoli_s | man i can never rejoin this channel when i disconnect |
| 21:54.01 | nicoli_s | except manually |
| 21:54.26 | Shirik | why are we +r |
| 21:54.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-r] by Shirik |
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| 21:55.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o Shirik] by Shirik |
| 21:55.15 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 21:55.16 | purl | ~pong |
| 21:55.29 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 21:55.58 | Kraps | are you lonely Shirik? |
| 21:56.33 | foxlit | nicoli_s: better client |
| 21:56.34 | Shirik | I am always lonely |
| 21:56.51 | foxlit | Though, to be fair, mine whines needlessly. |
| 21:57.08 | Thunder_Child | we have been that way for a long while Shirik |
| 21:57.36 | Thunder_Child | at lest 2-3 weeks or so |
| 21:57.57 | Shirik | wierd |
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| 21:59.32 | nicoli_s | foxlit: there is no client better than mirc |
| 22:00.25 | Fisker | nicoli_s! |
| 22:00.39 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 22:00.55 | Thunder_Child | you're taking Fiskers job there nicoli_s |
| 22:01.51 | Fisker | I'm so happy |
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| 22:02.22 | nicoli_s | huh? |
| 22:02.26 | nicoli_s | is confused |
| 22:04.19 | DWSR_ | Shirik: We're +r to keep all the bads away. |
| 22:04.28 | Shirik | that's what EDI is for |
| 22:04.50 | DWSR_ | She does a pretty poor job, tbh. |
| 22:04.52 | DWSR_ | I mean, I'm still here. |
| 22:04.53 | DWSR_ | Twice. |
| 22:05.09 | durcyn | zero DWSR's is enough for anyone |
| 22:05.15 | Shirik | !quote REMOVE #wowuidev DWSR_ |
| 22:05.15 | batbot | Shirik, remove has not said anything with your given pattern. |
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| 22:05.34 | DWSR_ | Slut. |
| 22:05.44 | DWSR_ | Pft. Webchat doesn't even show kick reasons. |
| 22:05.52 | Shirik | that wasn't a kick |
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| 22:05.59 | Thunder_Child | is the priest stuff out yet? |
| 22:06.05 | Shirik | DWSR: that wasn't a kick |
| 22:06.48 | durcyn | Thunder_Child: only in Navajo, for some reason. Something about "up yours, Babelfish" |
| 22:07.53 | Thunder_Child | awesome |
| 22:09.14 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.40 | Kraps | the yiddish translation is not bad |
| 22:12.43 | nicoli_s | so did anyone here get cataclycym opt in invites? |
| 22:13.10 | Kraps | its for press right now |
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| 22:14.41 | foxlit | "We need an ultralisk launcher that let's you launch them from a giant catapult, landing anywhere on the map you have sight - and also squashing anything where it lands. " |
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| 22:21.42 | Kraps | http://i48.tinypic.com/2r2ri13.jpg |
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| 22:23.28 | nicoli_s | wtf is that kraps? |
| 22:23.36 | Pneumatus | tits or gtfo |
| 22:26.27 | Kraps | Pneumatus: no tits :( |
| 22:26.43 | Kraps | first game had sideboobs! |
| 22:30.39 | Dagmar | You know what the devs had to say about that? |
| 22:30.44 | kd3 | so uh... wha? |
| 22:30.50 | Kraps | Dagmar: bullshit |
| 22:30.51 | Dagmar | "Get a girlfriend." |
| 22:30.57 | Kraps | lol |
| 22:31.46 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/get-a-second-life/4925 |
| 22:31.51 | Dagmar | Not kidding. One of their devs posted about that "nerfing" of the hot scene, and their attitude is that it's their game and they'll put as much or as little boob in it as tehy like |
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| 22:33.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: and, they're entirely justified in that statement :P |
| 22:33.45 | Kraps | Dagmar: they can, but to deny it was because some parents + news idiots made a fuss was so transparent |
| 22:33.49 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I agree |
| 22:34.09 | Dagmar | Kraps: It's not like anyone who cares can't go and mod the thing |
| 22:34.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: except they didn't deny it. maybe avoid the issue, but "we'll do what we wnant to do" is not a denial. |
| 22:34.26 | Dagmar | However, it does appear that most of the people capable of doing so *also* know how to just go and download _real_ porn |
| 22:36.04 | Torhal | I remember when the Final Fantasy movie came out...everyone was all "OMG! THEY RENDERED HER NUDE!" |
| 22:36.06 | Torhal | ... |
| 22:36.08 | Torhal | So? |
| 22:37.22 | NightHawkTheSane | but OMG NUDE! |
| 22:37.39 | Dagmar | Clearly these are people who've never tried to render cloth before |
| 22:37.48 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 22:38.41 | kd3 | lmao; locks finally get their green fire |
| 22:39.00 | Dagmar | Why do people care if it's green? |
| 22:39.12 | Jamash | because |
| 22:39.22 | kd3 | because locks have been crying about that since bc? if not earlier? |
| 22:39.24 | zenzelezz | kd3: they should have made the post first stating that as the *only* change; then fixed it later |
| 22:39.30 | Fisker | kd3 zenzelezz |
| 22:39.56 | Kraps | zenzelezz: you are a cruel bastard |
| 22:40.04 | Kraps | and that was funny |
| 22:40.08 | DWSR | Dagmar: Because they we don't look like mages? |
| 22:40.28 | DWSR | Dagmar: Also, plenty of stuff in OL had green fire. |
| 22:40.44 | DWSR | Green is supposed to signify fel energy, which is purportedly where warlocks draw their power from. |
| 22:40.57 | Dagmar | I thought they got it from pure malice. |
| 22:41.12 | Dagmar | Pansies. Tapping into other forms of energy |
| 22:41.14 | kd3 | oh wow. locks can't commit suicide either |
| 22:41.22 | kd3 | "Hellfire will no longer deal damage to the warlock." |
| 22:41.23 | Dagmar | hahaha since when |
| 22:41.26 | Dagmar | Ooh |
| 22:41.27 | zenzelezz | judging from the warlocks in my guilds, locks draw their power from booze |
| 22:41.30 | ajmitch | that's just not fair |
| 22:41.37 | Jamash | http://tinypic.com/r/24edjk2/5 |
| 22:41.41 | Dagmar | They'll probably nerf it as a result |
| 22:42.19 | Dagmar | Jamash: Looking for download link now |
| 22:42.23 | DWSR | kd3: Yeah, I'm sad about that. Hellfire has saved me a ton of gold on my car insurance.....I mean repair bills. |
| 22:42.25 | Kraps | Jamash: reading tooltips is hard |
| 22:42.29 | Dagmar | I'm a bit tired of searching every freaking pane looking for one damn spell I never use |
| 22:42.42 | NeoTron | kd3: transaltion "the last use of hellfire is now gone" |
| 22:42.47 | DWSR | ^ |
| 22:42.50 | Fisker | http://tinypic.com/print.php?pic=24edjk2&s=5 <-i want this bumper sticker |
| 22:42.52 | Dagmar | I use it |
| 22:42.53 | DWSR | They'll probably remove it from the game soon. |
| 22:42.54 | NeoTron | that spell is so bad (for aoe) even as fire destro today |
| 22:42.59 | Jamash | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10622-LearningAid.html#info |
| 22:43.26 | DWSR | NeoTron: Yeah. IT wouldn't even be bad if it worked like Arcane or Frost Nova. |
| 22:43.28 | Kraps | oh my bad |
| 22:43.31 | NeoTron | Dagmar: it's the worst Aoe a warlock has so.. why? |
| 22:43.41 | Dagmar | It's instant |
| 22:43.56 | NeoTron | melee range only, can't crit and does less damage than rain of fire and seed of corruption for all specs |
| 22:43.56 | Dagmar | ...and I don't have to really move or retarget when I'm getting mauled by trash |
| 22:44.18 | DWSR | It's great for soloing low level instances. |
| 22:44.19 | NeoTron | so laziness? :) |
| 22:44.21 | DWSR | That's about it. |
| 22:44.25 | Dagmar | ...plus I have a segui hook that makes my toon say "FUUUUUUU-UUUUUUUU-" |
| 22:44.28 | DWSR | Also, the aforementioned insurance savings. |
| 22:44.28 | Dagmar | :) |
| 22:44.33 | NeoTron | it's not even a little bit less damage, it's like 1/2 or worse |
| 22:44.48 | kd3 | "Q: You didnât answer the most important shaman question! What about Sentry Totem? A: The Cataclysm is a time of great upheaval. Deathwingâs return to Azeroth tore a hole in the fabric of the universe that tragically resulted in the ultimate and irrevocable destruction of all Sentry Totems. Level designers are contemplating a shrine for the Sentry Totem near that of Uther the Lightbringer. We know shaman players will greet this news with grief, but as w |
| 22:44.49 | kd3 | ith all class changes weâll have to get into beta before anything is final." |
| 22:44.49 | Dagmar | I have more hit points than the average tank so what do I care |
| 22:45.11 | Shirik | paypal fails miserably |
| 22:45.16 | DWSR | ^ this |
| 22:45.18 | DWSR | wait. |
| 22:45.19 | DWSR | ~failrik |
| 22:45.20 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 22:45.22 | DWSR | No it doesn't. |
| 22:45.45 | Shirik | I send them an email, stating explicitly |
| 22:45.47 | Shirik | because I am a student. As a result, I can't complete the final step to lift this limitation. My other phone numbers are acceptable, but I apparently can't lift my limitation via a cell phone. |
| 22:45.50 | Shirik | their response |
| 22:46.30 | Shirik | To return your account to regular standing, please complete the checklist items indicated when you login to your account and click on the link provided on the "Account Overview" page. |
| 22:46.34 | Shirik | To return your account to regular standing, please complete the checklist items indicated when you login to your account and click on the link provided on the "Account Overview" page. |
| 22:46.35 | Shirik | Once you complete all of the checklist items, our Account Review team will review your case and send you an email with the outcome of the review. Cases are reviewed in the order they are received. |
| 22:46.35 | Jamash | Kraps: that was actually an accident |
| 22:46.52 | Shirik | WHAT PART OF "I CAN'T" IS SO HARD TO COMPREHEND |
| 22:46.54 | Kraps | what was? |
| 22:47.03 | DWSR | Shirik: You're obviously just hitting an auto-responder. |
| 22:47.06 | DWSR | Shirik: Call them. |
| 22:47.08 | alestane | Just to make sure I'm not crazier than usual: If the tank pulls six bogstroks, what's the first thing the hunter should do? |
| 22:47.12 | Dagmar | You need a flesher |
| 22:47.19 | DWSR | alestane: Feign Death? |
| 22:47.23 | Dagmar | alestane: Check his FD cooldown |
| 22:47.28 | Lunessa | http://consumerist.com/2010/04/kfcs-bacon-sandwich-on-fried-chicken-bread-kills-people-everywhere-on-april-12.html |
| 22:47.30 | alestane | He had no aggro. |
| 22:47.37 | Jamash | the tooltip thing |
| 22:47.48 | alestane | The tank pulled two pulls on purpose. |
| 22:47.48 | Dagmar | alestane: Once that's done and you know you have your "out" you Misdirect-Volley over yourself and the healer |
| 22:48.09 | alestane | Don't think he knew Misdirect yet, we were in Slave Pens. |
| 22:48.52 | Dagmar | In that case it's lag trap time |
| 22:48.53 | alestane | But the only time in that entire instance I saw him use volley was on the last mob standing from the last trash pull in the instance, after I whispered to him that he could do a bunch more damage to big groups with Volley. |
| 22:49.13 | Dagmar | He probably never got the memo that they took the rubber nipples off Volley |
| 22:49.43 | Dagmar | It used to do a very fixed amount of damage that made it pretty much a waste of time |
| 22:50.02 | Dagmar | OOoo... I'm level 65 and I can hit everyone for 400 per tick... or I can jsut drop an explosive trap |
| 22:50.22 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:50.24 | alestane | I don't think he's been using it that long. |
| 22:50.24 | Fisker | i love you |
| 22:50.37 | Dagmar | Then he's a perfect example of why I'd like to see a mentoring system |
| 22:50.53 | Dagmar | Something where you can tell LFD you'd like to work with a same-class newb on DPS |
| 22:50.54 | DWSR | Dagmar: How exactly is that supposed to work? |
| 22:50.55 | NeoTron | Dagmar: curious how you don't care about doing damage.. not to mention, wht kind of fail tanks do you run with? ;-) |
| 22:51.20 | Dagmar | NeoTron: When exactly do I not care about doing damage? |
| 22:51.26 | DWSR | Dagmar: When you use Hellfire. |
| 22:51.27 | NeoTron | when you use hellfire as an aoe |
| 22:51.28 | DWSR | Next? |
| 22:51.36 | Dagmar | Oh. That's easy. |
| 22:51.41 | Dagmar | They'll die before I will. |
| 22:51.56 | Dagmar | ...and in the meantime I can grab my cigarette |
| 22:52.04 | alestane | Not sure I'd actually like that, Lunessa. |
| 22:52.05 | Dagmar | It's not something I'd be _opening_ with |
| 22:52.21 | Fisker | Dagmar NeoTron alestane |
| 22:52.23 | Fisker | bam |
| 22:52.29 | Lunessa | alestane: Me either. Looks too heavy and too uncomfortable to eat. |
| 22:52.30 | Dagmar | I tend to 2-dot everything and then once I've got 4-6 mobs just run in the middle and click it |
| 22:54.34 | Kraps | DUDE WAER THE PRIEST CHANGES |
| 22:54.43 | Kraps | I'M BORED |
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| 22:54.50 | Dagmar | It's also a nice change from dropping bombs on them all. |
| 22:55.10 | Fisker | they're not coming Kraps |
| 22:55.13 | Dagmar | My 'lock's an engineer, so as per usual, he's got all these bombs taking up inventory space |
| 22:55.15 | NightHawkTheSane | read a book. |
| 22:55.24 | Dagmar | Good lord the saronite bombs... Sheesh |
| 22:55.45 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: dont have any worth reading |
| 22:56.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: you're kind of a failure, then. |
| 22:56.44 | Kraps | hey, dont make me insult your mom |
| 22:57.26 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Anyway, I'm still leveling that lock so I dont' have to care about meters. As it stands I can't really find anything short of an elite four levels higher than me that won't die within seconds anyway |
| 22:58.03 | DWSR | Only 4 levels? |
| 22:58.07 | DWSR | I was soloing ?? elites. |
| 22:58.27 | NeoTron | I only really talk from a max level raiding point of view, not leveling |
| 22:58.42 | Dagmar | I'm at 71 there and I've alreayd killed a few 78 elites |
| 22:59.07 | Dagmar | It takes them being that high just to let me really pop off more than 1-2 of that snaky fire thing |
| 22:59.09 | DWSR | Dagmar: LK elites are not on par with Azeroth elites. |
| 22:59.10 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEXZ2hfD3bU&playnext_from=TL&videos=6Evn0de6TK8&feature=featured |
| 23:00.16 | Dagmar | DWSR: They have somewhat rational amounts of hit points for one |
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| 23:02.40 | Amarande | man, that was a nailbiter |
| 23:02.41 | DWSR | Rofl Kraps |
| 23:03.02 | Amarande | healing steamvaults, most people were under 70, and people let kallithresh activate hard mode, to boot |
| 23:03.15 | Dagmar | Milk-a-whaaaa? |
| 23:04.00 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2XUgE6g7XU&NR=1 <-- Needs more roundhouse kick |
| 23:04.03 | Amarande | okay, does anyone know if this addon exists ... |
| 23:04.21 | Amarande | an addon which allows quick reference to know when a given tradeskill recipe will turn yellow/green/gray? |
| 23:04.42 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f67LgpJBPPE&NR=1 <-- like THIS! |
| 23:04.50 | DWSR | Amarande: ARL does, I believe. |
| 23:05.30 | NightHawkTheSane | sequential gearbox in lego: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHWDSnWk2jU&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:05.38 | Kraps | DWSR: needs more slo-mo imo |
| 23:06.15 | DWSR | NHTS: Holy shit. |
| 23:06.31 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: 'holy shit' is an understatement. |
| 23:06.35 | DWSR | Agreed. |
| 23:07.14 | DWSR | That is fucking crazy. |
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| 23:09.44 | Dagmar | The exploding trailer is just overkill |
| 23:12.01 | Amarande | DWSR: unless I've missed something in ARL, I haven't seen it do that |
| 23:12.30 | Amarande | I'm thinking like this ... I know X tradeskill, it's currently orange. I'm looking for an addon where I can quickly see that X tradeskill is good for Y skill ups before it will turn yellow and become a matter of luck. |
| 23:14.02 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U4Ha9HQvMo |
| 23:15.20 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO0PgyPWE3o&feature=related <-- What. The. Fuck. |
| 23:15.38 | foxlit | "I'm Z only player and. I thing, zerg nerf is to hard. " |
| 23:15.50 | DWSR | You need a special key to make this thing to to it's top speed? |
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| 23:21.54 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfSS0ZXYdo&feature=channel |
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| 23:24.20 | Grum | haha |
| 23:26.35 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfSS0ZXYdo&feature=channel |
| 23:26.40 | DWSR | 3whoops |
| 23:26.42 | DWSR | Already linked that. |
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| 23:29.55 | NightHawkTheSane | 'm looking for an addon where I can quickly see that X tradeskill is go |
| 23:30.00 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 23:30.06 | NightHawkTheSane | didn't mean to do that. |
| 23:32.23 | Grum | 407km/h ..wtf ;p |
| 23:34.14 | Cide | ARR |
| 23:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | what do you call the part of your task bar with the notification icons in windows? |
| 23:34.59 | Cide | notification area |
| 23:35.02 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks. |
| 23:35.34 | Cide | "system tray" is a misnomer according to microsoft |
| 23:37.09 | DWSR | Grum: I know, right? |
| 23:37.38 | Grum | also that he wanted to just get out at 70km/h .. wtf :D |
| 23:37.53 | Cide | see http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2003/09/10/54831.aspx |
| 23:38.14 | Cide | @ NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:42.30 | NightHawkTheSane | neat, thanks. |
| 23:43.10 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC7f1OKQ78M&feature=channel <-- Fan. Tastic. |
| 23:43.11 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/04/canonical-has-revealed-that-it.ars |
| 23:43.11 | Adys | lol |
| 23:43.49 | Thunder_Child | ...i hate helping people with computers sometimes, it's like trying to dig a hole in water. |
| 23:44.21 | kd3 | lmao; that was quick |
| 23:45.41 | Thunder_Child | also where is the damn priest preview |
| 23:48.27 | Amarande | Any indication yet as to how long this means there is left till Cata? |
| 23:48.34 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:48.35 | Fisker | slapd |
| 23:48.58 | Amarande | have we progressed into "soon(TM)" yet? |
| 23:50.07 | DWSR | T_C: Been bumped to tomorrow. |
| 23:50.25 | Thunder_Child | thanks DWSR |
| 23:50.48 | DWSR | was that sarcasm? |
| 23:50.54 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 23:51.01 | Thunder_Child | but i could see how you think that |
| 23:51.16 | DWSR | lol, yeah, asking earnestly. |
| 23:51.48 | Fisker | paladins are going to be buffed to the moon |
| 23:53.02 | foxlit | Our paladins suggested that the reason they're delaying announcing paladin changes is that they'd like to have their community team focus on containing the whining after the announcement. |
| 23:53.38 | Fisker | you're wrong |
| 23:53.53 | Fisker | That's not how it goes down, here's how it's going down |
| 23:54.01 | Fisker | 1. Blizzard announces Paladin changes |
| 23:54.09 | Fisker | 2. Paladins can see that the changes are overpowered |
| 23:54.15 | Fisker | 3. Blizzard ignores community, launches beta |
| 23:54.27 | Fisker | 4. Paladins reminds them, after testing it ingame, that it's overpowered |
| 23:54.30 | foxlit | you're out-of-date |
| 23:54.32 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/503880743 |
| 23:54.39 | Fisker | 5. Blizzard ignores the community, launches live |
| 23:54.40 | foxlit | The new doctrine is "to the ground, baby!" |
| 23:54.48 | Fisker | 5. 2 hours in, first nerf hits |
| 23:55.24 | Fisker | 6. A few days after we've been nerfed to the ground, without addressing the core issue, the last nerf was to address the core issue |
| 23:55.49 | Dagmar | How is this different from "paladins whine constantly, coda twenty-seven" |
| 23:56.38 | Dagmar | If you whined less, or called out the people who are continually posting selfish, illogical whines, then perhaps there'd be a leg to stand on |
| 23:57.33 | Fisker | What has whine to do with anything |
| 23:57.34 | Fisker | ? |
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| 23:57.42 | Dagmar | But hey, when you treat fellow players posting incredibly stupid stuff constantly as an art form instead of as something counter-productive, don't be suprised that it's screwing up communications with devs |
| 23:58.35 | Fisker | I'm not sure you fully comprehend the issue at hand here |
| 23:58.39 | Dagmar | I do. |
| 23:58.44 | Dagmar | I read the forums. |
| 23:58.46 | TC-Away | i see the topic captures Fisker's essence perfectly |
| 23:59.09 | Dagmar | Idiots post troll-whines about _everything_, _constantly_, with no form of anything remotely resembling restraint |
| 23:59.22 | Dagmar | You just posted a seven-pointer meta-whine |
| 23:59.23 | Fisker | which has absolutely nothing to do with paladins |
| 23:59.29 | Fisker | Blizzard also knows this |
| 23:59.43 | DWSR | Hold on. |
| 23:59.46 | DWSR | So we're whining about whining? |
| 23:59.56 | DWSR | Fisker: Blow it out your ass. |
| 23:59.57 | Fisker | looks like it |
