| 00:01.56 | WobWork | That was... well written =P |
| 00:02.12 | kd3 | I expect it was copypasta from somewhere else |
| 00:02.20 | Lopeppeppy | I believe I've seen it before. |
| 00:04.27 | Lunessa | http://verydemotivational.com/2009/12/31/japan/ --- I aware you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. |
| 00:05.39 | WobWork | sad |
| 00:05.46 | Lopeppeppy | I've seen Japanese men marrying their character pillows recently.... very creepy |
| 00:05.48 | WobWork | it's not even motivational |
| 00:05.52 | WobWork | or demotivational |
| 00:06.52 | WobWork | that meme has lost all applicability |
| 00:06.52 | ZorbaTHut | why are these stupid commendations unique(10) |
| 00:06.55 | Fisker | ah yes kd3 |
| 00:07.04 | Fisker | how i long for the days when our roads were actually paved |
| 00:07.14 | kd3 | zorba; so you don't turn all of your tokens into honor at once? |
| 00:07.18 | kd3 | blizz wants you to suffer |
| 00:07.33 | Fisker | Anyone know what the final value of honor pr. mark were? |
| 00:07.43 | kd3 | ~183? |
| 00:07.45 | ZorbaTHut | fisker, 185 for turning them in one at a time |
| 00:07.51 | Fisker | ok |
| 00:07.52 | ZorbaTHut | 1450ish for a set of six |
| 00:08.04 | Fisker | guess i'll have to do some pvp then |
| 00:08.21 | ZorbaTHut | oh god apparently one person here has been doing it for five hours straight |
| 00:09.01 | WobWork | http://www.wiredreread.com/2010/03/iridium-satellite-phone-always-rings.html |
| 00:10.23 | Fisker | haha |
| 00:10.32 | Fisker | i'd be on the northpole instead of sitting in bar |
| 00:10.35 | Fisker | in a bar* |
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| 00:13.47 | Random3 | This shit makes me rage |
| 00:14.06 | Random3 | Guild Leader says I'm not geared enough to come when they 1 shot 11/12 bosses the first night |
| 00:14.29 | Random3 | but suddenly when no one shows up the second night for LK attempts, I get an invite |
| 00:15.37 | Random3 | Going to fucking tell him to shove it if he tells me again this week |
| 00:17.07 | Cide | well yeah |
| 00:17.32 | Cide | do you expect him to invite the bottom players if he has top players to choose? |
| 00:17.55 | ZorbaTHut | I'd expect him to invite the bottom players if the top players are only there to soak up loot and pussy out when it gets tough :P |
| 00:18.22 | Random3 | Actually, I pull more DPS than the better geared mages. |
| 00:18.23 | Lopeppeppy | Can't grow your ranks if you don't bring different people into fights. Big guilds have that problem all the time, if they aren't big enough for two or more separate teams. |
| 00:18.27 | Random3 | And I know all the fights, don't stand in fire. |
| 00:18.38 | Random3 | But I can't come because my gear is bad, apparently. |
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| 00:24.56 | A-KO^ | well that was fail |
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| 00:31.04 | ZorbaTHut | ah, tuesday. the day that you can see all the terrible groups looking for replacement members for the weekly raid quest, while all the players who are incapable of doing it stay in the raid |
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| 00:31.44 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: hmm. my tuesdays are better than your tuesdays. :P |
| 00:31.44 | Random3 | Wow, that was quick. |
| 00:31.47 | Random3 | Already found a new guild. |
| 00:31.55 | NightHawkTheSane | my tuesday is "the day i see how close i can come to killing my players' characters" |
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| 00:32.20 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm. I want one of those, NHTS. |
| 00:32.21 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, my server isn't uniquely terrible. there's about ten others as bad as it is. |
| 00:32.40 | foxlit | Fisker: Kane dies on page 684. |
| 00:32.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: i'm not even talking about wow, so ;) |
| 00:33.03 | ZorbaTHut | ah, d&d or similar? :) |
| 00:33.25 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: yeah, tonight's my D&D night :) |
| 00:33.31 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: TPK is fail |
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| 00:33.41 | Thunder_Child | also, it should be pathfinder |
| 00:34.10 | ZorbaTHut | ick pathfinder |
| 00:34.22 | Thunder_Child | pathfinder > 3.5 |
| 00:34.33 | Thunder_Child | and atm 3.5 > 4.0 |
| 00:34.45 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 00:34.47 | ZorbaTHut | 3.5 <<< 4.0 :P 4.0's just hugely more balanced and well-designed |
| 00:34.51 | NightHawkTheSane | i like what i've seen of pathfinder. |
| 00:35.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i rather like 4e. I'm also playing in a 3.5 game currently, and seeing the two side by side, I'm convinced that I prefer 4e |
| 00:35.15 | Thunder_Child | thats because 4.0 took a huge stick and shoved it up the ass of all RP elements |
| 00:35.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I do, however, want to make some modifications to the skill system. |
| 00:35.45 | Thunder_Child | there is almost zero out of combat spells |
| 00:35.47 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: is that a good thing? |
| 00:35.47 | ZorbaTHut | see, I don't agree. I think they got rid of the die-rolling elements of roleplaying and moved to a more freeform setup |
| 00:35.56 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: fuck no |
| 00:36.02 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: couldn't tell. |
| 00:36.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: rituals, which admitteldy need more work, but the framework is mostly there. |
| 00:36.19 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut: shortest ritual is 10 min irrc |
| 00:36.20 | ZorbaTHut | I've always felt like tossing in huge numbers of tables and rules to what is fundamentally human interaction is just a terribly bad idea. |
| 00:36.21 | Thunder_Child | iirc* |
| 00:36.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: ther's no reason you can't make your own that are shorter |
| 00:36.38 | ZorbaTHut | why does that matter? |
| 00:36.43 | ZorbaTHut | rituals aren't roleplaying :P |
| 00:36.46 | Thunder_Child | sorry ZorbaTHut that was to NightHawkTheSane |
| 00:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: they could be. |
| 00:36.53 | Jerub | otoh, i have a problem gamer in my group at the moment. |
| 00:37.03 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, personally, I feel like the best roleplay'y rituals are the ones that take days or months :) |
| 00:37.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: eh, I like some "gaming" in my roleplay, to allow people to actually do things that they may not be able/comfortable to do in real life. |
| 00:37.28 | ZorbaTHut | if you don't have to wait for an alignment of the planets, it's not big enough |
| 00:37.32 | Jerub | a) playing a divine spellcaster (druid) b) first time roleplay gamer c) doesn't know all his spells d) has many many RP spells on his spelllist. |
| 00:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: it's all about context, though ;) |
| 00:37.45 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, *shrug* i don't see an issue in that, 4e has that in spades. Admittedly, it gives fewer hard rules for it |
| 00:37.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: what system? |
| 00:37.50 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: no starter should ever play a druid |
| 00:37.52 | Jerub | he will spend 10 minutes scannning through spell descriptions during combat rounds instead of just hitting it or damaging it. |
| 00:37.56 | ZorbaTHut | but a skilled GM should be able to splice in whatever rolls they want |
| 00:37.56 | Thunder_Child | it's one of the hardest |
| 00:38.13 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: 3.something |
| 00:38.21 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: we basically use whateevr 3 books are to hand. |
| 00:38.33 | ZorbaTHut | man druids in 4.0 are tough enough |
| 00:38.40 | ZorbaTHut | 3.x druids . . . poor soul |
| 00:38.43 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: well, this is the tip of a large iceberg, but I feel 4e needs a better "non-combat skill" system. Not a LOT better, just something slightly more robust. |
| 00:38.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: ah, yeah. spellcasters were kind of a pita in 3.x |
| 00:39.00 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, I'm not really sure I agree. I used to play a lot of Shadowrun which has a very robust skill system |
| 00:39.05 | Cide | when did this 4.0 get released? |
| 00:39.06 | ZorbaTHut | at no point did I find the skill system, y'know. fun. |
| 00:39.13 | Thunder_Child | fail Cide, fail |
| 00:39.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: um, 2 years ago? |
| 00:39.21 | ZorbaTHut | all it really did was get in the way. |
| 00:39.24 | Cide | troll unsuccessful? :( |
| 00:39.33 | Thunder_Child | try finding a divination spell in 4.0 |
| 00:40.11 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, partly that's because they were trying to downpower wizards substantially |
| 00:40.18 | Jerub | i hate that the combat system is all in 'squares' |
| 00:40.18 | ZorbaTHut | they're no longer the jack of all trades, master of all trades |
| 00:40.20 | Jerub | in 4 |
| 00:40.23 | Jerub | that's my biggest turn off. |
| 00:40.28 | Jerub | I have never, ever, plyaed with miniatures. |
| 00:40.31 | Jerub | or a grid. |
| 00:40.34 | Thunder_Child | you should |
| 00:40.39 | ZorbaTHut | and they were trying to add a substantial amount of mystery and danger to the world, thus the lack of easy nightvision and flight spells |
| 00:40.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: well, i dont want a HUGE skill system the way 3e had. I just want the player to be able to say he's got specialized knowledge in a set of rp/background/knowledge skills, without making it cost him "active skills". |
| 00:40.41 | WobWork | It's kinda terrible |
| 00:40.46 | Thunder_Child | speeds things up |
| 00:40.59 | ZorbaTHut | night, so, have the player say he has that, and give him some slight bonuses in return for some other slight penalties |
| 00:41.06 | WobWork | how WoW shapes our social lives that the "Doing social things with people -not- on World of Warcraft" happens on tuesdays |
| 00:41.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: that's exactly what i'm considering doing, just formalizing it very slightly. |
| 00:41.23 | Jerub | WobWork: SC2 has broken that for me. |
| 00:41.25 | ZorbaTHut | I mean I'm really *vastly* happy with the idea of starting with a solid underpinning of game mechanics and letting people fudge on top of that |
| 00:41.38 | WobWork | Tuesday nights used to be my "Meet up with WoW friends for dinner in the city" night |
| 00:41.38 | ZorbaTHut | 3.0 and 3.5 did not start with a solid underpinning, and then did their own fudging on top of that shaky foundation. |
| 00:41.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: it might also come with some slight modifcations to the existing skill sysotem to pull the existing RP checks out of it |
| 00:41.51 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: mmmm People fudge |
| 00:42.05 | Jerub | I want to play traveller more. It's got some interesting underpinnings in that gear and money and stuff just don't matter so much. |
| 00:42.39 | Jerub | a party with communicators and pistols can kick ass as much as a party with agrav powersuits. |
| 00:42.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: but really, I think what I'm getting at is exactly what you want to see. Pulling the RP OUT of the system so neither are unduly restricted. |
| 00:42.53 | Thunder_Child | there is also a lack of flexibility in combat with 4.0 |
| 00:43.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: yes and no. |
| 00:43.20 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: no and no |
| 00:43.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: non-spellcasters gained MORE flexibility, spellcasters lost some. |
| 00:43.32 | ZorbaTHut | thunder, no and no :P |
| 00:43.40 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: non-spellcasters lost many |
| 00:43.45 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, I'd be ecstatic if 4e released a "complex roleplaying book" |
| 00:43.50 | ZorbaTHut | and then I would never buy it, because fuck that |
| 00:44.13 | ZorbaTHut | but I admit that there's a niche of gameplay that 3.5e/3e filled better than 4e does. One that I hate, but, y'know, different strokes. |
| 00:44.14 | Jerub | considers respeccing as feral dps |
| 00:44.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: yeah, I mean, i have no problem with people preferring 3.x |
| 00:44.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i just know that, for myself, I conclusively prefer 4e |
| 00:45.18 | NightHawkTheSane | although, i would like to try pathfinder at some point |
| 00:45.21 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, same |
| 00:45.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i really have heard nothing but good things about it |
| 00:45.28 | Thunder_Child | you must have boring people playing your games |
| 00:45.30 | ZorbaTHut | I've heard Pathfinder is basically 3.5 with less balance |
| 00:46.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: oddly, i've heard it's 3.5 with better balance :P |
| 00:46.28 | Jerub | meh balance. |
| 00:46.30 | ZorbaTHut | from what I hear, some of the major things they supposedly improved they actually did the exact opposite to |
| 00:46.33 | Jerub | it's not pvp, it's pve. |
| 00:46.35 | ZorbaTHut | for example, fighters got a buff |
| 00:46.36 | Jerub | so balance doesn't matter. |
| 00:46.48 | ZorbaTHut | several other similar classes, which were already strictly better than fighters, got a strictly bigger buff |
| 00:46.58 | ZorbaTHut | that sort of thing |
| 00:47.08 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I don't entirely agree. I'd like to feel non-useless playing a character that I think is interesting |
| 00:47.32 | ZorbaTHut | fact is that with 3.5, if you have a wizard or cleric in the party, then anyone who *isn't* a wizard or a cleric is basically only sticking around as a comic relief sidekick. |
| 00:47.35 | WobWork | are we talking D&D or WoW here? |
| 00:47.43 | ZorbaTHut | wob, d&d |
| 00:47.43 | WobWork | oh D&D |
| 00:47.53 | WobWork | these random references to feral dps were confusing me |
| 00:47.59 | WobWork | glares at Jerub |
| 00:48.17 | ZorbaTHut | I'd like to not feel like the wizard had to play suboptimally, or the GM had to invent contrived scenarios, just to make my fighter feel worthwhile. |
| 00:48.23 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: well, depends on level. |
| 00:48.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: at low level it's kind of the reverse. wizards are basically guys with sticks while the fighters, rogues, and barbarians do all the real work |
| 00:48.55 | kd3 | oh wow. the ah is closed |
| 00:49.01 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, true |
| 00:49.12 | ZorbaTHut | I don't really consider that to be better balance though ;) |
| 00:49.25 | Random3 | Just the engineer one |
| 00:49.28 | Random3 | Damn you, Blizzard. |
| 00:49.32 | Random3 | Ruining my convenience. |
| 00:50.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: not saying it is, just saying the balance flips along the way from 1-20 |
| 00:50.31 | ZorbaTHut | true |
| 00:51.29 | NightHawkTheSane | anyway, i need to get ready for game. later :) |
| 00:51.39 | ZorbaTHut | g'luck :) |
| 00:53.45 | Kraps | 27% crit :DD |
| 00:55.00 | kd3 | looks at his 56% (unbuffed) crit and yawns |
| 00:55.15 | WobWork | http://www.elbruz.org/islands/Islands%20and%20Lakes.htm |
| 00:55.17 | WobWork | awwweeeesome |
| 00:55.41 | Kraps | zomg kd3 |
| 00:55.43 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaTHut: the only caster that got a substantial kick in the ass was scorcerer, but since almost everyone believs that wotc shat on them anyway, it's valid |
| 01:00.24 | ZorbaTHut | wob, that's glorious |
| 01:03.23 | Kraps | what do you guys make of this? http://ptr.wowhead.com/?achievement=4784 |
| 01:04.41 | ZorbaTHut | how curious |
| 01:05.54 | ZorbaTHut | the only thing I can guess is that they'll be replacing Emblems entirely with the Northrend equivalent |
| 01:09.58 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23767194477&pageNo=1&sid=1#7 << All hail our remote cache-wiping overlords? |
| 01:11.46 | Lopeppeppy | Woot? |
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| 01:13.59 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 01:19.40 | Kraps | harsh http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/23767164322-removed-cooldowns.html |
| 01:20.33 | Cide | stupid more like it |
| 01:20.44 | Kraps | who is? |
| 01:20.56 | Cide | the player |
| 01:22.18 | Adys | Well this is sort of cool in a way: http://3273372964/en/weblog?weblogid=208188044 |
| 01:22.24 | Adys | (for those who have a shitty browser: http://195.27.181.36/en/weblog?weblogid=208188044 ) |
| 01:23.01 | foxlit | You know, they killed most of those ways to specify addresses on purpose |
| 01:23.06 | foxlit | Along with user:pass@host syntax |
| 01:23.30 | Adys | chrome converts it to base10 at dom level |
| 01:23.40 | Cide | also |
| 01:23.44 | Cide | why do specs include so much BLOAT? |
| 01:23.48 | Adys | and when it's typed in, before the query is even sent |
| 01:24.17 | Shirik | hi Cide |
| 01:24.21 | Shirik | no time today |
| 01:24.24 | Cide | hi |
| 01:24.31 | Cide | me neither |
| 01:24.52 | Shirik | foxlit, when did they kill user:pass@host? |
| 01:24.59 | Adys | Cide: who knows if one day you'll need http://3.27337e+9/ |
| 01:25.22 | Cide | clearly |
| 01:26.00 | Adys | Would be interesting to have floating point IP addresses |
| 01:26.25 | Cide | nope it wouldn't |
| 01:27.01 | Adys | "Attackers identify new vulnerability in Firefox; a rounding error resulted into a redirect hijack" |
| 01:27.10 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, sexy. |
| 01:27.17 | foxlit | Shirik: "By default, versions of Windows Internet Explorer that were released starting with the release of security update 832894 do not support handling user names and passwords in HTTP and HTTP with Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) or HTTPS URLs." |
| 01:27.17 | Lopeppeppy | Is this in 3.6? |
| 01:27.27 | Adys | I bet it's in every version. |
| 01:27.32 | Shirik | ew |
| 01:27.32 | A-KO | foxlit: that's old news |
| 01:27.36 | Cide | weak |
| 01:27.39 | A-KO | that's very old news |
| 01:27.45 | foxlit | A-KO: you're old news :) |
| 01:27.45 | A-KO | that's been that way for years... |
| 01:27.50 | Cide | that's very convenient imo |
| 01:27.55 | foxlit | Or just not following the conversation. |
| 01:28.01 | A-KO | nope, not following the convo :P |
| 01:28.01 | Shirik | A-KO: I advise you do not respond in that manner without reading the rest of the conversation |
| 01:28.28 | Shirik | Adys: Agree with floating point IPs |
| 01:29.01 | Shirik | omg |
| 01:29.05 | Adys | "Find me somewhere around 66.249.71" |
| 01:29.15 | Shirik | specifying IPv6 addresses in decimal |
| 01:29.16 | Shirik | win |
| 01:29.51 | Adys | http://0xdeadbeef/ |
| 01:29.52 | Adys | do want :( |
| 01:30.27 | Shirik | dead:beef:dead:beef:dead:beef:dead:beef |
| 01:30.28 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:30.31 | Adys | bloody chinese ip |
| 01:32.23 | Adys | http://1333333337/ why do they all have to be taken and so far from here |
| 01:32.24 | Adys | :( |
| 01:32.51 | Shirik | to keep them away from you |
| 01:33.29 | Shirik | http://whitehatfirm.com/news/a-router-to-322-terabits-per-second/1851.html |
| 01:33.31 | Shirik | It has 12 times more capacity than its competitors, 322 terabits per second (a whopping 322 million bits per second). |
| 01:33.34 | Cide | http://0x13371337 |
| 01:33.35 | Shirik | Does someone want to help them? |
| 01:34.42 | Adys | it's really cool how chrome shows the real url |
| 01:34.57 | Cide | Shirik: help? |
| 01:35.13 | Shirik | 322 tbps is quite different from 322 million bits per second |
| 01:35.19 | Shirik | like, it's not even close |
| 01:36.18 | Cide | almost |
| 01:36.25 | Shirik | almost? |
| 01:36.27 | Shirik | no |
| 01:36.36 | Cide | only a ratio of 10^6 off |
| 01:36.40 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:36.50 | Cide | anyway |
| 01:37.03 | Adys | "You can add to this dword number, any multiple of the quantity 4294967296 (2564) -- and it will still work." |
| 01:37.08 | Cide | I don't see how they can make that mistake |
| 01:37.23 | Cide | tera bits per second spells it out pretty nicely |
| 01:37.32 | Shirik | thwacks Adys |
| 01:38.01 | WobWork | hm, a friend of mine is feeding her dog cheese... is this a safe thing? |
| 01:38.16 | Adys | WobWork: Not for the cheese |
| 01:38.19 | Lopeppeppy | It is not unsafe, Wobwork. |
| 01:38.37 | Lopeppeppy | Too much might result in hurling, as with feeding the dog any unaccustomed food. |
| 01:39.13 | Lopeppeppy | But treats are treats. |
| 01:39.50 | WobWork | ah, I figured there might be issues due to the dairy content |
| 01:40.15 | Lopeppeppy | Milk is not exactly a normal canine diet item. But as a treat, have a piece, sure. |
| 01:48.27 | Shirik | we used to wrap my dog's pills in cheese |
| 01:51.06 | WobWork | I just figure dogs will have the same issue with dairy products as any other weaned mammal (aside from some humans) |
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| 01:53.56 | Lopeppeppy | As a treat, it's fine. As a "here, eat like a pound all at once", maybe not. |
| 01:54.18 | Adys | Well, I'm off to eat a pound of cheese all at once |
| 01:54.21 | Adys | see you all later |
| 01:54.24 | Lopeppeppy | People feed their dogs chocolate too... there's worse than cheese, trust me. |
| 01:54.58 | Adys | who would waste 1 pound of chocolate on their dog? |
| 01:59.24 | Lopeppeppy | idiots who don't like their dogs? |
| 02:11.14 | Arrowmaster | Adys, Cide, Shirik: only the dotted decimal IPv4 notation is allowed in URI's by RFC-3986 but its noted that some platforms may use methods that accept other formats and they should be considered a security risk http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#page-20 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-7.4 |
| 02:11.39 | Adys | ~arrowmaster++ |
| 02:11.45 | Adys | thank you arrowpedia :) |
| 02:11.56 | Arrowmaster | takes a bow |
| 02:13.00 | Cide | stupid browsers, then |
| 02:13.02 | Cide | go specs |
| 02:13.42 | Arrowmaster | Cide is right, the browers should be validating it before passing it to the systems lookup methods |
| 02:15.31 | WobWork | holy crap http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/23/greenville_google_worship/ |
| 02:15.40 | WobWork | where is your self respect, people? |
| 02:16.17 | Arrowmaster | also there is only one way to represent IPv6 addresses period that i know of so Shirik silly little thought about IPv6 in decimal should never work |
| 02:16.20 | Cide | I too would do that for 1gbps |
| 02:16.47 | WobWork | Cide: would you change your name to Google? |
| 02:17.08 | Google | never |
| 02:17.19 | Gnarfoz | yay, crashing frost lotus prices incoming :D |
| 02:17.21 | WobWork | pft, show me a deed poll |
| 02:18.57 | Adys | I know it wasn't Cide |
| 02:19.00 | Adys | it's easy to tell |
| 02:19.03 | Adys | Google never says never |
| 02:19.18 | Adys | LIKE WHEN SHIRIK SAID LETS FORK CHROME TO INCLUDE LUA AM I RIGHT SHIRIK |
| 02:19.32 | Gnarfoz | I'm moving to Google, Kansas |
| 02:20.17 | Adys | renaming yourself Google is lame, unintelligent, uninspired and pathetic |
| 02:20.27 | Arrowmaster | and also not legal |
| 02:20.32 | Cide | so is your mom |
| 02:21.04 | Gnarfoz | why would renaming myself (or something else) Google not be legal |
| 02:21.12 | Gnarfoz | (if Google was okay with it) |
| 02:22.55 | Gnarfoz | (not sure, "google" would certainly be an invalid name here in Germany, but we have strict rules to begin with) |
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| 02:23.56 | Arrowmaster | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/03/02/topeka_kansas_renames_google/ |
| 02:24.07 | Arrowmaster | they only changed it for one month which made it not legal |
| 02:24.13 | Arrowmaster | completely unofficial |
| 02:25.29 | Gnarfoz | huh? it being non-permanent made it illegal? |
| 02:25.45 | Gnarfoz | oh right |
| 02:25.49 | Gnarfoz | it says in the article |
| 02:26.01 | Gnarfoz | even though it doesn't say *WHY* ;D |
| 02:26.27 | Gnarfoz | Nintendo's Pokeman franchise |
| 02:26.27 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 02:26.42 | Gnarfoz | evil typos^^ |
| 02:30.53 | Adys | Oddly enough, the name swap isn't without precedent. Back in 1998, Topeka's former mayor Joan Wagnon renamed the city ToPikachu to celebrate the US launch of Nintendo's Pokeman franchise. |
| 02:31.06 | Adys | now that's something i didnt need to know |
| 02:31.26 | tekkub | thank god I live in a city that takes pride in it's name |
| 02:31.33 | tekkub | instead of being a cheap whore |
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| 02:51.35 | Gnarfoz | tekkub: 1gbit/s ftth! |
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| 03:17.09 | Kraps | firefox update |
| 03:17.16 | Shadowed | now with more lag! |
| 03:17.43 | Kraps | on the contrary! http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/underthehood/ |
| 03:17.59 | Adys | The TraceMonkey JavaScript engine brings screaming fast performance to Firefox 3.6. |
| 03:18.08 | Adys | screaming perf allright |
| 03:18.33 | Adys | arent they trashing it and forking webkit's js engine? |
| 03:18.34 | Shadowed | I'm already on 3.6 and it's terribly laggy :P |
| 03:18.42 | Adys | because "their own is so bad omg" |
| 03:21.29 | Kraps | wowhead will occasionally crash FF |
| 03:22.47 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/23767614599-333-known-issues-list-updated-3232010.html lol "Ruby Sanctum displays on the in-game calendar. " |
| 03:31.54 | WobWork | http://www.richardcobbett.com/2010/03/introducing-crap-gamers-network/ |
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| 03:46.50 | Shirik | tackles Adys |
| 03:49.49 | kd3 | oh wow |
| 03:49.54 | kd3 | we can mount inside BRM now |
| 03:49.59 | kd3 | 5 years later |
| 03:52.06 | kd3 | and ouch... openoffice got updated |
| 03:52.11 | kd3 | prays presto does its magic |
| 03:55.04 | Jerub | kd3: BRM? |
| 03:55.12 | kd3 | blackrock mountain |
| 03:55.16 | Jerub | oh, right |
| 03:55.20 | Jerub | :D |
| 03:59.43 | kd3 | whee! 91% size reduction. <3 presto |
| 04:12.50 | Shirik | I love mangled names |
| 04:13.00 | Shirik | my linker just spat out ??$GetParameter@V?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@@CParameterizedQuery@Database@IDEA@@QAEAAV?$IParameterSqlToken@V?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@@12@H@Z |
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| 04:18.41 | Taroven | Huh... 37/3/31 spec on my warrior. Just went through HUK to try it out. |
| 04:19.18 | Taroven | Long as I have aggro in the first place and there's no more than 3 mobs, it's AMAZING. |
| 04:20.45 | Taroven | Revenge did 71.2% of my damage... melee did 3%. |
| 04:20.57 | Taroven | (Heroic Strike was another 10%) |
| 04:21.09 | Taroven | Not sure what to think of those numbers... |
| 04:43.25 | WobWork | Taroven: you've turned into Rambo? |
| 04:44.02 | Taroven | WobWork: Pretty much... |
| 04:45.32 | Jerub | is very close to macroing "If you pull, you can tank" |
| 04:45.45 | WobWork | do it |
| 04:46.30 | WobWork | "If you're good enough to pull aggro, you're good enough to tank it." |
| 04:48.22 | Jerub | i do'nt like making value judgements. |
| 04:53.51 | WobWork | "If you're good enough to pull aggro, you clearly think you're good enough to tank it." |
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| 05:03.40 | Dagmar | WobWork: Just out of idle curiousity... Blizz would probably frown on an addon that added things like that to the Tips list that shows during loading wouldn't they? |
| 05:04.17 | Dagmar | It seems so obvious I can't help but think there's some reason no one's done that yet |
| 05:04.55 | Dagmar | I know it wouldn't be possible for the first load |
| 05:21.56 | WobWork | Dagmar: you can access that list? |
| 05:22.02 | WobWork | I thought it was part of glue |
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| 05:26.46 | Dagmar | WobWork: I just figure it's in there as a simple table someplace |
| 05:27.23 | Dagmar | I suppose I should just dump the whole of everything that's available to a file and look through it |
| 05:28.11 | Dagmar | I was messing about earlier with frame decorations and wound up with a frame that loaded every time I reloadui and it got me thinking about that sort of thing |
| 05:28.20 | Dagmar | s/loaded/appeared/; |
| 05:33.10 | Dagmar | snickers at Steam still trying to get people to buy EverQuest for $2.50 |
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| 05:34.40 | Dagmar | After everything that's come since EverQuest I feel something akin to a kid reaching adulthood and realizing that their single uncle's "Touching Game" was wrong, wrong, wrong |
| 05:34.52 | Dagmar | Like I should be at their offices yelling "I KNOW WHAT YOU DID TO ME WAS WRONG NOW!" |
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| 05:44.48 | Kraps | "maintenance" |
| 05:46.30 | Dagmar | That Creative headset is _almost_ tempting enough for me |
| 05:46.38 | Dagmar | I *highly* approve of it's looks |
| 05:47.06 | nevcairiel | you wear it on your head, you dont see it |
| 05:48.05 | Dagmar | The 2.4Ghz wireless thing is what I like most, but I already have a really good Logitech USB headset that's around-the-neck and weighs almost nothing |
| 05:48.19 | Dagmar | $159 tho. ouch |
| 05:49.11 | Dagmar | After reading up a bit, I'm probably going to be out $150+ bucks tho when they make a class/race specific lens for it |
| 05:53.35 | Dagmar | OH HECK YES |
| 05:53.58 | Dagmar | Now, when you login, after the first time you use an authenticator code, it just has _a box for it_ on the login screen |
| 05:54.01 | Dagmar | No more second dialog |
| 05:54.08 | Dagmar | Me likey |
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| 05:55.39 | WobWork | Dagmar: Show me on the elf model where the bad MMO touched you =\ |
| 05:56.27 | WobWork | I have a asus wireless headset |
| 05:56.29 | WobWork | it's pretty awesome |
| 05:56.39 | WobWork | the only issue I have is wearing it for long periods of time =( |
| 05:56.48 | WobWork | but that's the same for any headset for me due to glasses |
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| 05:58.42 | Dagmar | 1. Having to find your glasses by feeling around the entire room sucks. Contacts for the win. |
| 05:59.17 | Jerub | Dagmar: having a girlfriend with the same prescription rocks. |
| 05:59.19 | Dagmar | 2. I've tried using a motorola bluetooth earpiece meant for cell phones before, they can be gotten for like $20, but bluetooth == AUDIO LAG and generally zero freq response above 16k. |
| 05:59.29 | nevcairiel | and i thought you dont wear contacts at night either, so when you get up, you're equally blind? :d |
| 05:59.44 | Dagmar | Listening to the looting tinkle through the earpiece will make you crazy, but speech works okay |
| 05:59.59 | Dagmar | nevcariel: No that's what's pure win about the ones you can get now |
| 06:00.04 | Dagmar | You can wear 'em for a month, even while yous leep |
| 06:00.11 | Dagmar | Waking up NOT BLIND kicks ass |
| 06:00.25 | Dagmar | My freaking vision is 80/20 without contacts |
| 06:01.22 | Dagmar | I can wear these things even though I've had some eye damage in the past that makes me super light sensitve (but hey, cat-like night vision isn't that bad) |
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| 07:05.27 | Cairenn | hahahhahaha |
| 07:05.49 | zenzio | blinks |
| 07:05.50 | Cairenn | The WoW South Park episode is running |
| 07:06.00 | zenzio | oh, that one is pretty amusing |
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| 07:33.42 | mikma | ~wowalert |
| 07:33.43 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 07:35.11 | mikma | patch didn't go live? |
| 07:35.50 | Dagmar | It went live |
| 07:35.55 | Dagmar | I got email from some NPC even |
| 07:36.47 | mikma | how about eu? |
| 07:39.13 | Elkano | live, too |
| 07:39.44 | mikma | thanks |
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| 07:45.50 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yeah, the NPC mail. wtf was that about? |
| 07:46.10 | Aqua | i wondered that myself |
| 07:47.11 | mitch0 | did the toc change? |
| 07:47.15 | DWSR | no |
| 07:47.23 | DWSR | I don't think so, anyway. |
| 07:47.27 | Dagmar | Either it's a new something that kicks in as you get your first frost emblems, or maybe 20 emblems or something |
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| 07:47.48 | DWSR | Gawd. |
| 07:47.51 | Aqua | idk why its a feat of strength |
| 07:47.52 | DWSR | I feel like such an old fart. |
| 07:48.00 | DWSR | I went to bed at like 6:30 and woke up just now. |
| 07:48.04 | Dagmar | I guess I'll find out which as I bring the warlock up throught he 70's |
| 07:48.20 | Dagmar | I like what they've done with the holiday bosses |
| 07:48.35 | DWSR | You can get at them any time now, right? |
| 07:48.45 | Dagmar | Might as well hang a sign over the holiday instances saying "NOW SHOWING: LOOT PINATA" |
| 07:48.52 | Dagmar | I like. :) |
| 07:49.01 | DWSR | hehe yeah |
| 07:49.12 | Dagmar | Some of them like Coren Direbrew, I could beat to death for hours at a time anyway |
| 07:49.57 | Dagmar | dwsr: Do 'locks stay that overpowered through 70-80? |
| 07:50.18 | DWSR | Dagmar: As overpowered as when? |
| 07:50.22 | Aqua | they really messed with mages again |
| 07:50.51 | Arrowmaster | wait did they change that they were going to make the holiday bosses one kill per day? |
| 07:50.51 | Dagmar | DwSR: well, at 66 I'm able to just slaughter everything non-elite non-stop |
| 07:50.57 | DWSR | Dagmar: Oh, yeah. |
| 07:50.57 | Dagmar | DWSR: ...in Netherstorm. |
| 07:51.19 | DWSR | You can solo anything that doesn't require 5 people as a lock |
| 07:51.30 | Dagmar | DWSR: Getting there and being told to kill an arcane blahblahblah I couldn't find one so I just landed and started sweeping the place to tumble the spawn table |
| 07:51.31 | Arrowmaster | you can solo things that require 5 people as a lock |
| 07:51.36 | Arrowmaster | i did it leveling to 80 |
| 07:51.46 | Dagmar | Well, it's not hte "anything" that makes me wonder... it's the "as many anythings as I can click on" |
| 07:51.47 | Aqua | if your geared |
| 07:51.51 | DWSR | yeah, but there's a bit of a caveat emptor there. |
| 07:52.07 | Wobin | http://notalwaysright.com/freedom-fries-arent-free/4774 |
| 07:52.08 | Wobin | ^^ |
| 07:52.21 | Dagmar | I've managed to pull out a Doomguard a couple of times now, but they're freaking cowards |
| 07:52.22 | Aqua | If your geared you can do some pretty wild shit |
| 07:52.34 | DWSR | Dagmar: You should be able to solo everything but about a dozen 5m group quests leveling from 60-80. |
| 07:52.37 | Dagmar | Aqua: I ran through Manaforge B'nar without slowing down. |
| 07:52.45 | Dagmar | ...and then around it. |
| 07:52.50 | Dagmar | ...and then went back and looted it. |
| 07:53.14 | DWSR | Dagmar: You leveling as demo or aff? |
| 07:53.25 | Dagmar | Mostly the middle one |
| 07:53.25 | DWSR | Because Demo gets super overpowered once you hit NR. |
| 07:53.28 | DWSR | Yeah, Demo. |
| 07:53.31 | Arrowmaster | locks were soloing the manaforges for rep back in TBC |
| 07:53.36 | Dagmar | I stopped short of the shapechange |
| 07:53.42 | DWSR | Yeah, that's about right. |
| 07:53.57 | DWSR | You want to go like 30/41/0. |
| 07:54.07 | DWSR | Since Destro's so shit for leveling. |
| 07:54.10 | Dagmar | It's been literally a matter of dropping two dots as I run by, and then sic'ing the demon on it. |
| 07:54.16 | Arrowmaster | 21/50/0 for soloing whatever the fuck you want |
| 07:54.45 | DWSR | meh, there's not a lot of stuff past the Felguard at the top of the demo tree that I'd bother with, tbh. |
| 07:54.45 | Dagmar | Find next target, rinse, repeat, occasionally stop and rain of fire so I can light a cigarette |
| 07:55.00 | DWSR | Dagmar: Sounds about right. |
| 07:55.15 | Arrowmaster | i soloed AQ40 trash, the 4 packs with random abilities that spread as you kill them, with 21/50/0 |
| 07:55.16 | Dagmar | Northrend better fear then |
| 07:55.16 | DWSR | Locks (like hunters) are one of the easiest classes to level. |
| 07:55.43 | Dagmar | Well, there's also the fear juggling |
| 07:55.47 | Dagmar | It makes me smile |
| 07:55.47 | DWSR | I solo'ed AQ40 trash in Furious PvP gear as 0/13/58 |
| 07:56.06 | Arrowmaster | AQ40 trash still hits hard on a clothie at 80 |
| 07:56.07 | Dagmar | It's cool as a hunter to sweep a whole village up and kill it in a go, but... |
| 07:56.23 | Dagmar | ...it can't compare to being a fear-bearing class with DoTs jsut for the whole "everyone screaming and running around" factor |
| 07:56.29 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Yeah, it was my PvP spec, which was 0/17/54 at the tie. |
| 07:56.39 | DWSR | time* |
| 07:56.40 | Dagmar | It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. |
| 07:56.44 | DWSR | Dagmar: Mhm. :) |
| 07:57.03 | DWSR | Dagmar: Now just imagine Fear with no DR on players, a 10 second longer duration, and never having it break prematurely. |
| 07:57.12 | DWSR | Dagmar: And you have PvP in vanilla in a nutshell. |
| 07:58.03 | Arrowmaster | now imagine fear breaking on any damage and if you were being hit by melee you couldnt cast and you have PvP in vanilla at a later patch in a nutshell |
| 07:58.28 | Dagmar | I see now why some locks just run around Wintergrasp in crowds handing out corruption as fast as they can |
| 07:58.48 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Yeah. |
| 07:58.49 | DWSR | hehe |
| 07:58.49 | Arrowmaster | and people wondered why drakedog was a cheap ganker |
| 07:59.10 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: That's nothing. In beta ten squirrels could bring down a mage through continuous staggering blows |
| 07:59.13 | DWSR | Dagmar: SoC spam when you're on defense is probably the single most hilarious thing you can possibly do. |
| 07:59.39 | Arrowmaster | SoC is a fucking mana hog though |
| 07:59.53 | Arrowmaster | and its got a lame damage cap |
| 07:59.53 | Wobin | that's alright |
| 07:59.55 | DWSR | Dagmar: How do you queue for the holiday bosses? |
| 07:59.59 | Wobin | you regen your mana when you res =P |
| 07:59.59 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: *lame*? |
| 08:00.07 | Dagmar | I suspect that possibly drain health MIGHT not make you too many friends in a PvP scenario |
| 08:00.09 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: I've hit over 60k with a single one |
| 08:00.22 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: wtf? did they change it? |
| 08:00.28 | Arrowmaster | it was set at 12k in TBC |
| 08:00.39 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: They removed hard damage caps. |
| 08:00.45 | Arrowmaster | when? |
| 08:00.49 | DWSR | A few patches ago |
| 08:00.55 | Arrowmaster | damn you guys are lucky |
| 08:00.59 | Dagmar | ...and Wintergrasp's Tenacity makes that spell EVIL |
| 08:01.03 | DWSR | Want to see 32k DPS? |
| 08:01.04 | DWSR | :) |
| 08:01.11 | DWSR | ICC plagueworks trash. |
| 08:01.24 | Dagmar | That's the thing I'd see some lock come running up and cast it on the dawn siege engine, which would die, and then we'd die |
| 08:01.33 | Dagmar | ...and the dude never even broke step. |
| 08:01.37 | DWSR | Yeap |
| 08:01.40 | Arrowmaster | i was actually using RoF at times in TBC because SoC was too much of a mana hog for the shitty damage cap |
| 08:01.43 | DWSR | You should see locks on 20x Tenacity. |
| 08:01.47 | DWSR | That's not even fair. |
| 08:01.48 | Dagmar | There is no strategy in that |
| 08:01.52 | Dagmar | none. nada. |
| 08:01.55 | Dagmar | They click, you die. |
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| 08:02.19 | Dagmar | The only strategy that works against that is "hope like hell the lock doesn't find you" |
| 08:02.20 | DWSR | Aff locks on 20x Tenacity are even worse |
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| 08:03.05 | Dagmar | They run around like raid bosses after the enrage timer |
| 08:03.23 | zenzio | isn't it "frenzy" these days? |
| 08:03.43 | Dagmar | I dunno I never see it happen. |
| 08:04.08 | Dagmar | I remember a long time ago in Naxx we were slow and then the boss just threw up his hands and said "you're done" and started one hitting everyone |
| 08:04.36 | zenzio | it's very possible I'm wrong; but I seem to recall some change in terminology where "enrage" was used for soft damage increase stuff like players could do, while "frenzy" was used for the "you're fucked" boss type |
| 08:05.12 | Dagmar | Might be a bit more accurate then since 'locks can't intercept-stun you (thank god) |
| 08:05.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah but since originally enrage was the "youre fucked" a lot of people still say enrage |
| 08:06.27 | Dagmar | Oooh |
| 08:06.34 | Dagmar | I'll have to make some pets tomorrow |
| 08:06.47 | Arrowmaster | engineering? |
| 08:06.50 | Dagmar | "The Pet Bombling and Lil' Smoky non-combat pets are no longer Bind-on-Pickup" <-- $$$ |
| 08:06.50 | zenzio | http://wow.incgamers.com/blog/comments/beta-enrage-berserk-and-frenzy-changes/ - this was what I was remembering. Don't recall if it's true now |
| 08:07.43 | Wobin | CHCHING |
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| 08:12.19 | Dagmar | Already going for 100-150g on Skywall |
| 08:14.56 | DWSR | Ok |
| 08:15.08 | DWSR | did SexyCooldown get broken by the latest UI changes? |
| 08:17.38 | Wobin | http://www.teefury.com/ |
| 08:21.27 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:21.35 | Fisker | go to work Wobin |
| 08:23.57 | DWSR | ~seen Antiarc |
| 08:23.58 | purl | antiarc <~Antiarc@ip70-190-192-186.ph.ph.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 5d 16h 54m 52s ago, saying: 'Holy frijoles.'. |
| 08:24.04 | Antiarc | hi |
| 08:24.23 | Thunder_Child | thats odd |
| 08:26.09 | DWSR | Antiarc: Sexy broke? |
| 08:26.21 | Antiarc | what did? |
| 08:27.01 | Fisker | Blessed broke |
| 08:27.17 | Fisker | puts on his pokerface |
| 08:27.40 | Fisker | i'm also super cereal |
| 08:28.07 | DWSR | SexyCooldown |
| 08:28.09 | DWSR | It broke? |
| 08:28.11 | Thunder_Child | puts on his poke her face |
| 08:28.21 | Antiarc | It works for me? |
| 08:28.24 | Antiarc | I'll check it |
| 08:28.43 | DWSR | Well, there was a UI change regarding SetTexturesomethingorother. |
| 08:29.01 | Antiarc | mm |
| 08:29.04 | Antiarc | I'll check into it |
| 08:29.12 | Fisker | you should stop trolling so much DWSR |
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| 08:29.33 | DWSR | Antiarc: Bars display fine, it just doesn't do anything. |
| 08:29.43 | DWSR | Antiarc: (i.e. it's not tracking whatever it's supposed to track). |
| 08:30.39 | Wobin | Joly frijoles? |
| 08:31.06 | DWSR | Antiarc: It's getting really irritating to have to keep track of my disease duration in my head based on my rune cooldowns. :P |
| 08:31.09 | Fisker | none of my addons work actually |
| 08:31.10 | Fisker | how odd |
| 08:31.27 | Wobin | Fisker, you did it, didn't you? |
| 08:31.39 | DWSR | Also, Tiptac broke. |
| 08:31.39 | Fisker | did what? |
| 08:31.45 | DWSR | Can anyone recommend a tooltip mod? |
| 08:31.49 | Wobin | the whole 'not ticking load out of date addons' thing =P |
| 08:31.51 | Fisker | ah damn DWSR |
| 08:31.59 | Fisker | no Wobin the servers aren't up yet |
| 08:32.02 | DWSR | Damn Fisker. |
| 08:32.05 | DWSR | We have a problem. |
| 08:32.05 | Fisker | Infact i have no interface at all |
| 08:32.16 | Fisker | only a realmlist :( |
| 08:32.22 | Wobin | =( |
| 08:32.23 | DWSR | You don't even have that, don't lie. |
| 08:32.24 | Fisker | this new game is boring and confusing |
| 08:33.06 | Fisker | i know i'm going to forget it though |
| 08:33.15 | Fisker | i'll spend 5-10 minutes logging into dalaran |
| 08:33.22 | Fisker | just to find out i forgot to load out of date addons |
| 08:34.03 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/7e093db1a2403df202e577b37b88db25.jpg <-poor me |
| 08:37.45 | Antiarc | try out my new toy project |
| 08:37.46 | Antiarc | http://wowqu.com/ |
| 08:37.49 | Antiarc | it's early alpha |
| 08:37.50 | Antiarc | but is fun |
| 08:38.22 | Fisker | is it a chocolate candy? |
| 08:38.26 | Antiarc | it is not. |
| 08:38.30 | Wobin | isn't that like that other one? |
| 08:38.48 | Wobin | the one using the stackoverflow model |
| 08:39.00 | Fisker | aww |
| 08:39.01 | Antiarc | There's another one, yes, but it's just a brainless stackoverflow deploy |
| 08:39.06 | Fisker | i have to create an account to troll you |
| 08:39.10 | Antiarc | I'm gonna be doing a lot more with it |
| 08:39.11 | Wobin | what makes this one awesome? |
| 08:39.14 | Antiarc | Yes, but you can just use openid |
| 08:39.24 | Fisker | i don't use it |
| 08:39.29 | Antiarc | Do you have a google account? |
| 08:39.33 | Fisker | yeah |
| 08:39.43 | Antiarc | Then go here |
| 08:39.44 | Antiarc | Wobin: |
| 08:39.45 | Antiarc | Err |
| 08:39.47 | Antiarc | http://wowqu.com/login/new |
| 08:39.49 | Antiarc | And click the google icon |
| 08:40.17 | Fisker | you're probably stealing my login |
| 08:40.20 | zenzio | cool, you already have gold ads |
| 08:40.21 | Antiarc | And Wobin, it's different in that I'm integrating it with characters, MMOC's DB, Shadowed's ElitistArmory for character analysis, patch-keyed questions, etc. |
| 08:40.29 | Antiarc | If you see gold ads, give me the URL, I'll ban them |
| 08:40.37 | Antiarc | I've got over 300 gold seller domains banned already |
| 08:40.38 | Wobin | I mistyped my openid |
| 08:40.40 | Antiarc | But there are a lot of them. |
| 08:40.44 | Wobin | and got a blank page with '<' |
| 08:40.49 | Antiarc | Oh? |
| 08:41.12 | Antiarc | what'd you type so I can replicate it? |
| 08:41.15 | Wobin | ack |
| 08:41.23 | Wobin | I just typed 'wobin' into the openid panel |
| 08:41.23 | Antiarc | Or was it on the return? |
| 08:41.28 | Wobin | on the return |
| 08:41.31 | Wobin | now it's truncated html |
| 08:41.43 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: you require my email and alias to login with openid? |
| 08:41.50 | Arrowmaster | can i trust you? |
| 08:41.52 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Don't require, nope |
| 08:41.58 | Antiarc | Well, I ask for |
| 08:42.05 | Antiarc | So I can pre-populate them into your local profile |
| 08:42.09 | Antiarc | But I'm not selling it or anything :P |
| 08:42.23 | Antiarc | Wobin: Interesting bug. I'll fix it :) |
| 08:42.27 | Arrowmaster | my openid provider says you require them |
| 08:42.32 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Hm. |
| 08:42.33 | Wobin | always happy to break your stuff =) |
| 08:42.58 | Fisker | hurr hurr Antiarc |
| 08:43.19 | Wobin | also, a suggestion, randomise the background with a horde theme too =) |
| 08:43.29 | Antiarc | This project is mostly an excuse to play with MongoDB |
| 08:44.33 | Antiarc | There's a Horde theme that shows up if you select horde as your faction once logged in |
| 08:44.40 | Antiarc | But yeah, I need to pick a random theme for visitors |
| 08:45.02 | Antiarc | just persist it with a cookie or something |
| 08:45.26 | Antiarc | DWSR: SexyCD is working just fine for me here |
| 08:45.30 | Fisker | pro ads you got there Antiarc |
| 08:45.36 | Antiarc | Go go adsense |
| 08:45.48 | Antiarc | I've got an awesome ban list so far |
| 08:46.06 | Antiarc | http://pastie.org/884332 are all filtered :) |
| 08:46.07 | Fisker | http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/pagead/imgad?id=CKPNuP6bp43V-gEQrAIY7wEyCNx-PhJNXuG8 <-dunno if you get the same but it's an ad for learning biblical hebrew :P |
| 08:46.09 | Antiarc | Adding more as I find them |
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| 08:47.46 | DWSR | Antiarc: Microcosm? |
| 08:47.51 | Antiarc | what? |
| 08:48.07 | jnwhiteh | Hey all |
| 08:48.11 | DWSR | Are you testing it by itself. |
| 08:48.16 | Antiarc | No |
| 08:48.21 | Antiarc | I'm testing it with my normal addon loadout |
| 08:48.31 | DWSR | You using a LSM tex? |
| 08:48.33 | DWSR | bar tex* |
| 08:48.39 | Antiarc | yes |
| 08:49.20 | jnwhiteh | how large is the 3.3 patch? |
| 08:49.25 | DWSR | ~180mb |
| 08:49.26 | Antiarc | 140mb ish |
| 08:49.29 | jnwhiteh | blegh |
| 08:49.37 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: I'm using the EU sizes. |
| 08:49.42 | jnwhiteh | i have download limits until fridya |
| 08:49.44 | jnwhiteh | well actually it'll be saturday now |
| 08:49.46 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: why did your site give me a name of "arrow" |
| 08:49.49 | jnwhiteh | so Il'l have to wait to patch |
| 08:49.59 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: sneakernet it? |
| 08:49.59 | Elkano | you didn't preload? |
| 08:50.28 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: depends on your login mechanism, it'll ask for a preferred username from an openid provider, and if it's not found, will take the email before the @ |
| 08:50.36 | Antiarc | you can set one if you prefer |
| 08:50.40 | jnwhiteh | Sneakernet? |
| 08:50.47 | Arrowmaster | yeah and i provided a preferred username |
| 08:50.53 | Arrowmaster | well 'alias' |
| 08:50.56 | Fisker | jnwhiteh my friend |
| 08:50.59 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: Download it on another connection and USB key it over :) |
| 08:50.59 | jnwhiteh | Elkano: I haven't been home |
| 08:51.05 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: ah, heh |
| 08:51.05 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: I got a Nexus One, too! |
| 08:51.09 | Fisker | no Antiarc ! |
| 08:51.10 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: huzzah! |
| 08:51.12 | jnwhiteh | Oh |
| 08:51.14 | Antiarc | It is sexy |
| 08:51.14 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: atleast your site actually worked with my i-name |
| 08:51.16 | Antiarc | I love it |
| 08:51.23 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: Antiarc: Do NOT charge your Nexus One using anythign other than the stock charger. |
| 08:51.28 | Fisker | When i try to install google maps i get incompatible app :o |
| 08:51.31 | jnwhiteh | it has a SIGNIFIGANT impact on battery life. |
| 08:51.40 | Fisker | I only charge through usb |
| 08:51.41 | Antiarc | Oh? I bought an aftermarket car charger. |
| 08:51.49 | jnwhiteh | make sure your charger (it can't be USB) has 1A output |
| 08:51.56 | Fisker | >:E |
| 08:51.58 | Antiarc | I have the provided USB and AC chargers |
| 08:51.58 | jnwhiteh | USB onloy gives you about 500-650 |
| 08:52.01 | Antiarc | I've used both |
| 08:52.03 | jnwhiteh | and it cuts your battery life in half |
| 08:52.09 | Antiarc | Hm. So I shouldn't charge with USB then? |
| 08:52.12 | jnwhiteh | correct |
| 08:52.12 | Fisker | how, why? |
| 08:52.14 | jnwhiteh | unless you need to |
| 08:52.18 | Antiarc | That's disappointing. |
| 08:52.25 | Antiarc | Good to know though. |
| 08:52.30 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: someone postulated that its because the cells in the battery don't get evenly charged |
| 08:52.33 | jnwhiteh | i dont know |
| 08:52.37 | jnwhiteh | but its definitely real |
| 08:52.41 | jnwhiteh | i get about 9 hours if i charge on usb |
| 08:52.48 | jnwhiteh | i get 31 ish if I charge with the 1A charger. |
| 08:52.55 | Arrowmaster | usb-to-go or something is what it probably needs |
| 08:52.55 | jnwhiteh | I bought a microusb mains charger and used it |
| 08:53.00 | jnwhiteh | it outputs 650mA |
| 08:53.06 | jnwhiteh | and I got about 16 hours. |
| 08:53.14 | Antiarc | interesting. |
| 08:53.26 | Fisker | i can't even get that to make sense |
| 08:53.45 | Fisker | anyway guess i'll have to buy a US->DK plug then |
| 08:53.49 | jnwhiteh | neither could I |
| 08:53.56 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: you could amazon a 1A charger |
| 08:54.14 | jnwhiteh | such as http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mains-Universal-microUSB-Charger-Google/dp/B00337TWCY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1269420846&sr=8-1 |
| 08:54.16 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:54.17 | Fisker | probably more expensive than just getting an adapter :P |
| 08:54.31 | Fisker | that one won't work for example |
| 08:54.33 | jnwhiteh | though that doesn't say what teh output is. |
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| 08:55.38 | Arrowmaster | In Battery Charging Specification[35], new powering modes are added to the USB specification. A host or hub Charging Downstream Port can supply a maximum of 1.5 A when communicating at low-bandwidth or full-bandwidth, a maximum of 900 mA when communicating at high-bandwidth, and as much current as the connector will safely handle when no communication is taking place; USB 2.0 standard-A connectors are ra |
| 08:55.43 | Fisker | btw i tried to mess around with the hacked google maps and now when i try to install the official google app(even though the other is uninstalled) i get an error that it's incompatible |
| 08:55.45 | Arrowmaster | ted at 1500 mA by default. |
| 08:55.58 | Arrowmaster | is it a mini or micro usb port? |
| 08:56.01 | jnwhiteh | micro |
| 08:56.28 | jnwhiteh | ahah |
| 08:56.28 | jnwhiteh | (808): Before we started fucking, he laid me on the bed, and asked my what my sleep number was, so that i would be "comfy". |
| 08:56.30 | Fisker | is it solvable without having to wipe? |
| 08:56.43 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: you could remove the maps app from your device |
| 08:56.56 | Fisker | i tried but it didn't seem to work |
| 08:57.05 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: At least he's considerate, amirite? |
| 08:57.09 | jnwhiteh | you[d need to have root i tink |
| 08:57.18 | Fisker | i do |
| 08:57.29 | jnwhiteh | then you can do anything |
| 08:57.36 | jnwhiteh | adb sell rm /system/app/Maps.apk |
| 09:00.03 | Fisker | still doesn't work |
| 09:00.12 | jnwhiteh | 'doesn't work' |
| 09:00.19 | jnwhiteh | you are full of awesome |
| 09:00.23 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 09:00.25 | jnwhiteh | perhaps you could explainw hat the device says |
| 09:00.26 | DWSR | Wow. |
| 09:00.27 | jnwhiteh | waht the state is |
| 09:00.31 | jnwhiteh | and what error you're getting |
| 09:00.32 | jnwhiteh | nubtard. =) |
| 09:00.40 | Fisker | i didn't copy it |
| 09:00.42 | DWSR | I did 27% of all damage in an H HoR run. |
| 09:00.46 | DWSR | as the tank. |
| 09:00.48 | DWSR | That's fucking wacked. |
| 09:00.51 | Fisker | but it basically said something like ERR_DEVICE_INCOMPATIBLE |
| 09:01.37 | Fisker | i'll trigger go trigger it again |
| 09:02.17 | Fisker | Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_UPDATE_INCOMPATIBLE] |
| 09:02.56 | Fisker | Anyway it also has a com.google.android.apps.m(aps?) app |
| 09:03.02 | Fisker | but it crashes if i try to view it |
| 09:03.05 | Fisker | the application manager |
| 09:04.06 | Fisker | yeah it was maps |
| 09:04.11 | Fisker | just uninstalled it :o |
| 09:04.34 | Fisker | yay |
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| 09:09.03 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 09:09.50 | jnwhiteh | oahi |
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| 09:11.21 | Maldivia | Morning |
| 09:12.25 | Fisker | it worked |
| 09:12.28 | Fisker | so you can't stop me |
| 09:12.33 | Fisker | (I'm on a boat) |
| 09:12.46 | DWSR | But are you sailing on it? |
| 09:13.08 | Fisker | i'm on a horse on a boat on a plane |
| 09:13.41 | Wobin | I'm riding this horse backwards. |
| 09:14.09 | DWSR | W |
| 09:14.14 | DWSR | Who's site is WoWQU? |
| 09:14.35 | DWSR | Because I want to know what the hell choosing a faction means. |
| 09:14.39 | Wobin | Antiarc, |
| 09:14.49 | Wobin | 's |
| 09:14.52 | Antiarc | Hi |
| 09:14.59 | Antiarc | Right now it doesn't have a tangible effect |
| 09:15.04 | Antiarc | Later it's going to affect leaderboards |
| 09:15.10 | Antiarc | It's not a finished product yet |
| 09:15.34 | DWSR | i notivrf |
| 09:15.36 | DWSR | wow |
| 09:15.37 | DWSR | noticed* |
| 09:15.43 | DWSR | 1 handed typing in the dark ftl |
| 09:16.13 | Dagmar | Go go gadget G15 |
| 09:16.24 | Wobin | Antiarc, oh. I know why I failed earlier to login |
| 09:16.27 | DWSR | Dagmar: I'm not rich enough to afford 2. :( |
| 09:16.32 | Wobin | NoScript =P |
| 09:16.42 | Antiarc | It should still work without it. Ish. |
| 09:16.54 | Antiarc | The error you got shouldn't happen |
| 09:17.02 | Antiarc | I can replicate it in production, but not in dev :( |
| 09:17.04 | Antiarc | Which is frustrating as hell |
| 09:17.09 | Wobin | ugh |
| 09:17.16 | Fisker | http://www.sandisk.com/products/mobile-memory-products/sandisk-microsdhc <-about time |
| 09:17.20 | DWSR | Antiarc |
| 09:17.24 | DWSR | You fail at birthday fields. |
| 09:17.38 | Antiarc | DWSR: Automated generator. It's on the todo list, but low priority. |
| 09:17.42 | Antiarc | Today was mostly Xapian integration |
| 09:18.08 | DWSR | I do like the Gravatar integration though |
| 09:19.06 | Wobin | Antiarc, woo, does that mean I get the Bane of Wow'Quraj achievement? =) |
| 09:19.26 | Antiarc | Wobin: Heh, you have to actually make it to the exception handler to get it automatically, but I'll give it to you manually :) |
| 09:19.33 | Wobin | \o/ |
| 09:19.38 | Antiarc | (If you manage to get the app to throw an exception, it gives you the achievement) |
| 09:19.51 | DWSR | Antiarc: Ah, found it. |
| 09:19.58 | Wobin | Antiarc, underhandedly sneaky |
| 09:20.03 | DWSR | Antiarc: Already existing bars don't work for me, but creating a new bar does. |
| 09:20.13 | Antiarc | DWSR: Odd. My existing bars work fine. |
| 09:20.13 | Wobin | people don't complain about bugs =P |
| 09:20.36 | Antiarc | People were actually really happy to find bugs earlier :P |
| 09:20.42 | Fisker | where's an answer to my question Antiarc? :3 |
| 09:21.07 | DWSR | Antiarc: Hrm. |
| 09:21.09 | DWSR | Very wierd. |
| 09:21.23 | Wobin | Antiarc, woo ajaxy |
| 09:21.25 | Antiarc | Wobin: You've been awarded! |
| 09:21.32 | Antiarc | Heh, indeed. |
| 09:22.18 | Antiarc | This is actually related to work, Fisker |
| 09:22.25 | Antiarc | Since I'm evaluating MongoDB for a Serious Project(TM) |
| 09:22.31 | Antiarc | (It's doing great so far) |
| 09:23.14 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 09:24.12 | olafski | I like the idea of wowqu ;) |
| 09:30.01 | olafski | how low does a question need to be voted before it's pruned? |
| 09:30.04 | olafski | if at all |
| 09:31.03 | Antiarc | It'll disappear from the higher-profile stuff once it hits -1 |
| 09:31.37 | Antiarc | It won't be fully pruned, but high-rep users will earn moderator abilities that allow them to effectively remove stuff from public view |
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| 09:34.41 | olafski | mkay |
| 09:34.49 | olafski | and do answers that have been voted higher show up first? |
| 09:35.25 | Antiarc | It's currently purely chronological. Working out a decaying votes+answers- based system is on the to-do list |
| 09:35.36 | DWSR | Antiarc: Do you have tooltip integration with MMOC or WH? |
| 09:35.42 | Antiarc | yes, with MMOC |
| 09:35.49 | DWSR | Just put in a spell link to MMOC? |
| 09:36.07 | Antiarc | [spell]Fireball[/spell] |
| 09:36.24 | Antiarc | http://wowqu.com/questions/is-two-handed-frost-death-knight-tanking-viable |
| 09:36.28 | Antiarc | Look at the first answer there |
| 09:36.36 | olafski | antiarc: I found a "bug" (or perhaps something I don't understand). when I click on "answers" in my profile page, it shows the questions I've written an answer for, but next to every question it says "0 answers" |
| 09:36.39 | Antiarc | olafski: Durr, you said answers. Yes, the highest-rated answers show up first. |
| 09:36.47 | DWSR | Antiarc: I want to linka talent, akshully. |
| 09:37.04 | Antiarc | olafski: Ah, that is a bug; it's looking for answers to your answer, not answers to the master post :) |
| 09:37.08 | Antiarc | DWSR: Talents are spells |
| 09:37.12 | DWSR | k |
| 09:37.14 | olafski | ah okay antiarc :) |
| 09:37.18 | olafski | ah finally the blizzard downloader works |
| 09:37.35 | Antiarc | You can use [spell=12345]Spell Name[/spell] if you want to use a specific ID |
| 09:37.45 | Fisker | what do you mean olafski ? |
| 09:37.53 | olafski | it didn't download anything before today fisker |
| 09:38.02 | olafski | just kept sitting at 0% |
| 09:38.13 | olafski | now it also actually asked me if it could access the internet.. didn't do that before |
| 09:38.13 | Fisker | made sure your internet settings are properly set and IE is updated? |
| 09:38.35 | olafski | the first part of the 3.3.3 patch was predownloaded though, so that part worked :/ |
| 09:38.52 | olafski | either way I don't really mind, this looks like it will take about 3 minutes |
| 09:39.01 | Fisker | true |
| 09:39.13 | Fisker | i just end up getting it from a.wirebrain.de/wow on tuesdays :P |
| 09:39.23 | olafski | ah I'm not that much in a hurry |
| 09:39.28 | olafski | I prefer to save myself the hassle of doing that :P |
| 09:39.36 | Fisker | i always patch it before i go to sleep |
| 09:39.38 | olafski | I feel bad though, I put my winxp installation back.. couldn't live with win7 |
| 09:39.57 | Fisker | wat |
| 09:43.11 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: so do i get that "Bane of Wow'Quraj" for telling you the openid attribute exchange is borked? |
| 09:43.37 | Antiarc | It's not quite a BUG |
| 09:43.48 | Antiarc | Just not quite the behavior you expected |
| 09:44.10 | DWSR | Antiarc |
| 09:44.12 | olafski | do I get it for telling you the number of answers was wrong? I get the feeling you already knew that ;) |
| 09:44.21 | Arrowmaster | i let my provider tell you my alias but you used the username from my email instead as the default username |
| 09:44.32 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Oh, hm. That's a bug. |
| 09:44.35 | Antiarc | Achievements all around! |
| 09:44.38 | Antiarc | And sure, olafski :D |
| 09:44.44 | olafski | :) |
| 09:44.59 | DWSR | Antiarc: [spell]Improved Faerie Fire[/spell] <-- I want this to reference the talent at Rank 3, not the debuff |
| 09:45.14 | DWSR | [spell]Improved Faerie Fire (Rank 3)[/spell]? |
| 09:45.28 | Antiarc | DWSR: Use the spell ID then |
| 09:45.36 | Antiarc | [spell=1234]Faerie Fire[/spell] |
| 09:45.48 | Antiarc | That'll link spell ID 1234 and show it as Faerie Fire |
| 09:45.49 | DWSR | ah, ok |
| 09:45.51 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: and i dont see how to assign tags to other peoples questions |
| 09:46.00 | Arrowmaster | or is that limited by rep |
| 09:46.04 | Antiarc | It's rep-limited |
| 09:46.15 | Arrowmaster | should make a page listing that stuff |
| 09:46.21 | Arrowmaster | and the needed rep |
| 09:46.26 | Arrowmaster | so we can grind it |
| 09:46.57 | Antiarc | yEah, that's all going into a FAQ at some point |
| 09:47.01 | Antiarc | But FAQs are boring |
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| 09:47.04 | Antiarc | They are not code |
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| 09:47.18 | Matsy | That's why there are always special people who make FAQs |
| 09:47.23 | olafski | found another "bug". When adding a character, it kept incessantly putting my cursor back in the Realm field even after I tabbed and clicked to the name field several times |
| 09:47.40 | DWSR | http://www.wowwiki.com/Clownsuit <-- rofl |
| 09:47.40 | Antiarc | Hrm. Must be the autocomplete acting up. |
| 09:47.47 | DWSR | olafski: Yeah, I can confirm that. |
| 09:48.29 | olafski | antiarc: would also be nice if it would remember the last region/realm I entered a char from =) |
| 09:48.33 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: the add character realm autocomplete has no way of selecting a realm with the keyboard that i can find, you have to click it with the mouse to actually input it into the box |
| 09:48.39 | Antiarc | olafski: yeah. That's on the todo. |
| 09:48.59 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Yeah. I disabled the keyboard stuff because it was being REALLY greedy with field focus when there was any lag |
| 09:49.05 | olafski | aw elitist armory finds nearly all of my gear wrong ;) |
| 09:49.07 | Antiarc | I'll be putting it back in once I fix it. |
| 09:49.50 | Fisker | what Antiarc |
| 09:50.12 | Fisker | you can't just remove my question :( |
| 09:50.19 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: its STILL greedy, if i tab out of the box while the dropdown is shown it steals focus back |
| 09:50.24 | Antiarc | Bah. |
| 09:50.41 | Antiarc | Fisker: you mean http://wowqu.com/questions/when-do-we-see-some-updates-for-blessed ? |
| 09:50.44 | Fisker | yeah |
| 09:50.48 | Antiarc | I didn't remove it :P |
| 09:50.53 | Antiarc | It got voted off the front page |
| 09:50.56 | olafski | woot added 11 characters |
| 09:51.19 | Fisker | autocomplete doesn't work here btw Antiarc |
| 09:51.23 | Antiarc | where? |
| 09:51.28 | Fisker | under characters |
| 09:51.39 | Fisker | if i try to autocomplete my realm it just takes it as i'm done writing and submits it |
| 09:51.49 | Arrowmaster | i just said that fisker |
| 09:51.52 | Fisker | how do i delete characters again? :P |
| 09:51.54 | Arrowmaster | no achievement for you |
| 09:51.57 | Antiarc | you can't delete yet |
| 09:51.59 | Matsy | Is it a coincidence that wowqu looks exactly like stackoverflow? ;) |
| 09:52.01 | Antiarc | I need to add that :P |
| 09:52.15 | Fisker | also if you tab away from the field it'll "tab back" |
| 09:52.18 | Antiarc | Matsy: It was an inspiration, but "exactly" is an exaggeration : |
| 09:52.19 | Fisker | atleast in Chrome |
| 09:52.19 | Antiarc | :P |
| 09:52.27 | olafski | I just said that fisker |
| 09:52.31 | Arrowmaster | no i did |
| 09:52.41 | Matsy | Well, lets just say it was pretty obvious that stackoverflow at least helped with the lay-out. |
| 09:52.45 | olafski | I said it earlier arrowmaster :P |
| 09:52.49 | Matsy | But, it looks awesome, really :) |
| 09:52.54 | Fisker | FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU- |
| 09:53.38 | Fisker | anyway Antiarc |
| 09:53.43 | Matsy | Even OpenID works, that's a major plus. |
| 09:53.45 | Fisker | go delete my character :( |
| 09:53.54 | Antiarc | I'll add character deletion soon |
| 09:54.05 | olafski | I've never seen the point of openID when there's so many providers to do it and not all sites seem to support all providers =( |
| 09:54.12 | Matsy | Well |
| 09:54.12 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: look at my character list |
| 09:54.14 | olafski | does adding a character make others unable to claim that character? |
| 09:54.22 | Matsy | Most of the sites seem to support Google openID |
| 09:54.23 | Antiarc | olafski: No |
| 09:54.27 | Antiarc | Since I can't verify that you own it |
| 09:54.40 | Matsy | And, since almost everyone has a Google Account nowadays, and you're pretty much missing out if you don't |
| 09:54.50 | Arrowmaster | Matsy: OpenID with an i-name worked, thats fucking rare as hell |
| 09:54.56 | olafski | antiarc: ah okay, that was going to be my next question :) |
| 09:54.59 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I know. Problem is there's no authed way to claim a character. |
| 09:55.10 | Fisker | btw Antiarc |
| 09:55.21 | Matsy | Arrowmaster, I believe scribd supports that as well. |
| 09:55.27 | Fisker | you should add something like wowhead where you have a list of Blizzard icons :P |
| 09:55.31 | olafski | hm, missing out on a google account? :s |
| 09:55.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Legorol (~legorol@cpc1-cmbg12-0-0-cust184.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:55.35 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Legorol] by ChanServ |
| 09:55.37 | Antiarc | The only way to verify a character would be for me to say "go equip these three grey items and come back" |
| 09:55.43 | Matsy | Yeah, they're getting more important by the day, olafski :) |
| 09:55.44 | Arrowmaster | Matsy: stack does, sourceforge cant fucking figure it out though |
| 09:55.47 | Antiarc | Which is a pain in the ass |
| 09:55.54 | olafski | I still prefer to sign up manually.. somehow I don't trust openid ;) |
| 09:56.02 | Matsy | Pfsh, Google knows all about you anyway. |
| 09:56.09 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: and i wouldnt be able to do that, my account is canceled |
| 09:56.16 | olafski | I don't "not trust" its privacy matsy |
| 09:56.22 | olafski | I just don't trust that it does what I want it to do |
| 09:56.23 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Heh, indeed |
| 09:56.26 | Antiarc | Anyway |
| 09:56.31 | olafski | this site didn't require me to fill out 30 fields to sign up anyway so it's np to sign up manually |
| 09:56.35 | Fisker | actually Antiarc |
| 09:56.37 | Antiarc | Collisions are just something that I'll have to live with |
| 09:56.43 | Fisker | you could use the armory security token shit :P |
| 09:56.47 | Antiarc | What? |
| 09:56.53 | Fisker | But blizzard would probably be like "Don't visit this site people" |
| 09:57.03 | Matsy | Oh, I am not saying you're not making sense, it's just my personal preference to use single sign-ons for each website. You can at least use the websites without filling that information ;p |
| 09:57.20 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: maybe a warning on collisions |
| 09:57.23 | olafski | mm there's something to be said in its favor I guess ;) |
| 09:57.28 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: That's a good idea. |
| 09:57.37 | Antiarc | No hard limit, just "X has this character listed as well" |
| 09:57.38 | Matsy | Not everyone seems to like it, though, for valid reasons :) |
| 09:57.40 | Arrowmaster | i think fisker is trying to say you should XSS the armory |
| 09:57.46 | Fisker | naw |
| 09:57.51 | Fisker | The calendar feed |
| 09:58.05 | Fisker | Security token basically validates that the person has access to that account |
| 09:58.13 | Antiarc | oh, hm. |
| 09:58.14 | Matsy | Ah, I logged out with my argent lance, and it doesn't like it :( |
| 09:58.27 | Fisker | But as i said, Blizzard would probably be "Don't look into the box zoidberg" |
| 09:59.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Schnaks (~Schnaks@p5486D564.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:59.39 | Arrowmaster | i can login to the armory, but... |
| 09:59.45 | Arrowmaster | Error A character must be recently active, on an account in good standing, on a US realm, and be at least level 10 to appear on a calendar. |
| 09:59.57 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 10:00.15 | Antiarc | For active accounts, though, the calendar token does provide a way to verify ownership, though |
| 10:00.18 | Antiarc | Which is excellent |
| 10:00.31 | Matsy | Wow, Antiarc, did you make Elitistarmory as well? |
| 10:00.36 | Fisker | Shadowed did |
| 10:00.41 | Antiarc | Matsy: No, Shadowed did |
| 10:00.42 | Matsy | Ah, right. |
| 10:00.50 | Fisker | he did pitch the idea originally |
| 10:00.51 | Antiarc | We're collaborating to send traffic back and forth to each other |
| 10:00.53 | Fisker | of sexygroup |
| 10:00.58 | Fisker | which was then elitistgroup |
| 10:00.59 | Matsy | Well, fine job there, really |
| 10:01.01 | Fisker | and then elitistarmory |
| 10:01.37 | Fisker | I'm pretty annoyed that they're adding all these dot-crits to all the other classes and leaving out paladins :( |
| 10:01.47 | Fisker | and now i have to get a new talent build again for my rogue i guess |
| 10:01.49 | Matsy | Yeah, where are the crits for Sacred Shield! |
| 10:02.00 | Fisker | crits for Righteous Vengeance Matsy |
| 10:02.06 | Matsy | :( |
| 10:02.08 | Matsy | I am a holy paladin, okay |
| 10:02.23 | Matsy | I haven't even ever used Righteous Vengeance. ;p |
| 10:02.27 | Fisker | We're like 20-30% behind a Best-in-Slot hunter vs. a Best-in-Slot paladin |
| 10:02.34 | Fisker | dunno about the other classes though |
| 10:02.38 | DWSR | Antiarc: http://wowqu.com/people/4ba8925d69e0dc230c000044 <-- Fail./ |
| 10:02.43 | Matsy | How'd one calculate that? |
| 10:02.44 | Fisker | but mages and rogues are doing well as well |
| 10:02.49 | Fisker | theorycrafting Matsy |
| 10:03.06 | Antiarc | DWSR: I can't really stop people from using naughty words all that easily :P |
| 10:03.06 | Fisker | in b4 "the theorycrafting is invalid"-argument |
| 10:03.13 | Matsy | Ah, right, the power of WoW mathematics. ;p |
| 10:03.57 | Fisker | Well my rogue can almost follow my paladin in dps on 25-man |
| 10:04.02 | Fisker | and it's pretty badly geared |
| 10:04.05 | Fisker | compared |
| 10:04.12 | Matsy | Oh, really? |
| 10:04.18 | Fisker | I have the best-in-slot (besides T10 tokens) for paladin |
| 10:04.23 | Fisker | well i don't have shadowmourne obviously |
| 10:04.31 | Fisker | or shadow's edge |
| 10:04.37 | Matsy | Obviously? ;) |
| 10:04.41 | Fisker | but shadow's edge is a poor upgrade to bryntoll anyway |
| 10:04.55 | Fisker | we haven't killed lk yet :P |
| 10:05.14 | Fisker | And i had to switch guilds a few weeks after ICC release |
| 10:05.29 | Fisker | so trial pretty much ment no tokens or no gear that anyone else needed |
| 10:05.45 | Fisker | Which is nice since there's some gear that is best in slot for palas but, pretty much worthless for anyone else |
| 10:05.50 | Matsy | Trial meant no tokens / gear? |
| 10:05.52 | Matsy | What's up with that |
| 10:06.05 | Fisker | The members have priority |
| 10:06.14 | Fisker | of course if noone needed i could swoop it up |
| 10:06.21 | Fisker | which there were some cases of |
| 10:06.45 | Matsy | But still, in my guild, trial just means you have limited access to the Guild Bank, and that you don't have any form of priority in raid assignments. |
| 10:07.09 | Matsy | But, if you were to be assigned in such a raid, one would have the same treatment as others. |
| 10:07.19 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: fuck, "You may not answer your own question" |
| 10:07.23 | Arrowmaster | fix it |
| 10:07.27 | Antiarc | That's intentional |
| 10:07.38 | Arrowmaster | so i can post my ragequit post |
| 10:07.48 | Fisker | That's not how it worked here :P |
| 10:07.52 | Fisker | But i'm pretty happy with it |
| 10:07.58 | Fisker | Actually did save up for Shadow's Edge |
| 10:07.59 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: works on stack overflow |
| 10:08.00 | Matsy | Only Antiarc can answer his own questions ;) |
| 10:08.21 | Fisker | But i decided to go from 0->4p T10 in a day because of the guild's shadowmourne priority |
| 10:08.26 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: This isn't stackoverflow :P |
| 10:08.49 | Matsy | Man, I feel left out because our raids start at stupid times. ;( |
| 10:09.05 | Matsy | Who'd ever think of raid times at 7PM, it's just unfair. |
| 10:09.08 | Fisker | Page not found :( |
| 10:09.08 | Fisker | You seem to have found something that doesn't exist. |
| 10:09.11 | Fisker | I WANT MY DAMN BUG ACHIEVEMENT |
| 10:09.17 | Antiarc | That's not an exception |
| 10:09.19 | Antiarc | Just a 404 |
| 10:09.23 | Fisker | i know |
| 10:09.25 | Fisker | but it's a bug |
| 10:09.31 | Fisker | oh |
| 10:09.33 | Fisker | you deleted the question |
| 10:09.36 | Fisker | PERMANENTLY! |
| 10:09.42 | Antiarc | what |
| 10:09.44 | Antiarc | no I didn't |
| 10:09.46 | Fisker | baleet mine as well then |
| 10:09.48 | Fisker | then Arrowmaster did |
| 10:09.49 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 10:09.58 | olafski | I got to level 10 and got deletion rights |
| 10:09.58 | Matsy | I should be online in August 2010, then |
| 10:09.58 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt about to let fisker answer it |
| 10:09.59 | Antiarc | people can delete their own |
| 10:10.00 | olafski | sorry fisker |
| 10:10.09 | Fisker | didn't know that Antiarc |
| 10:10.10 | Matsy | For the Unlucky Thirteen achievement ;p |
| 10:10.14 | Fisker | but atleast i got my answer achievement |
| 10:10.17 | Antiarc | Matsy: Hehe |
| 10:10.24 | Fisker | btw |
| 10:10.29 | Matsy | Man, it takes a while to earn them all. |
| 10:10.40 | Fisker | recent activity = Recent unanswered questions, and recent questions |
| 10:10.41 | Fisker | gogo |
| 10:10.54 | Antiarc | Yeah, yeah :P |
| 10:11.00 | Antiarc | I need a lot of views like that |
| 10:11.05 | Antiarc | Doing the authed character import right now |
| 10:11.20 | Fisker | so you're going with the calendar feed stuff? |
| 10:11.26 | Antiarc | Gonna add it as an option |
| 10:11.39 | Fisker | i demand 1 billion achievement points in compensation :P |
| 10:11.51 | Antiarc | never! |
| 10:11.58 | DWSR | Antiarc: Do I not get the achievement to set an avatar if I'm using Gravatar? |
| 10:12.03 | Antiarc | DWSR: Nope. |
| 10:12.06 | DWSR | Fail, why not? |
| 10:12.07 | Matsy | Man, I love the new Blizzard Authenticator field in the WoW UI. |
| 10:12.16 | Antiarc | DWSR: Because everyone uses a gravatar if they don't set one :P |
| 10:12.23 | DWSR | Mad hax. |
| 10:12.38 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: go vote up my question |
| 10:12.39 | Fisker | Btw unless you already thought of it, let newer authorizations baleet the old ones, and tell people to reset their security key, etc. just in case |
| 10:12.53 | Antiarc | eh? |
| 10:13.01 | Antiarc | I'm just gonna check the URL once it's submitted |
| 10:13.08 | Fisker | yeah |
| 10:13.12 | Fisker | But in case it's fake |
| 10:13.22 | Antiarc | If it's fake it won't return the calendar |
| 10:13.22 | Fisker | What do you do when another user adds a new token with the same characters? |
| 10:13.25 | DWSR | Antiarc: Yeah, but I've actually set a proper Gravatar. :P |
| 10:13.26 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: asshat |
| 10:13.34 | Fisker | fake = being compromised then |
| 10:13.35 | Fisker | :P |
| 10:13.38 | Matsy | Gravatar? |
| 10:13.42 | Antiarc | If you're compromised that's not my issue |
| 10:13.53 | Matsy | That's.. a word play I've never heard of. |
| 10:13.54 | haste | Antiarc: make the images in the side choice shit clickable! |
| 10:14.00 | Fisker | no of course not :P |
| 10:14.03 | Antiarc | haste: Which? |
| 10:14.17 | haste | Antiarc: the choose your side, you can only click the link, not the images |
| 10:14.19 | Fisker | Just saying that you should still take into consideration if another token is added with the same characters |
| 10:14.22 | Antiarc | haste: Ah, okay |
| 10:14.31 | Fisker | no point in having 2 accounts with the same characters? |
| 10:14.35 | Antiarc | Fisker: seems awfully edge-case'y |
| 10:14.40 | Fisker | yeah |
| 10:14.41 | Antiarc | I may |
| 10:14.46 | Antiarc | Not mega worried about it though |
| 10:14.58 | Fisker | btw is the vote system weighted? |
| 10:15.05 | Antiarc | Not currently |
| 10:15.06 | DWSR | Matsy: Gravatar = Globally Recognized Avatar. |
| 10:15.12 | haste | Antiarc: also, the characeter list shouldn't use a different sub-menu (ie where the profile links are) |
| 10:15.12 | DWSR | Matsy: http://gravatar.com |
| 10:15.27 | Antiarc | haste: Yup. It's on the to-do. |
| 10:15.32 | olafski | odd, I actually do use that but I dislike openID :) |
| 10:15.38 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: view counter sucks, it goes up on every refresh |
| 10:15.46 | Matsy | Wooo, a question I can answer, nice :) |
| 10:15.52 | Matsy | Oh, thanks for the link, I'll look at it |
| 10:15.53 | Fisker | DAMNIT |
| 10:15.54 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I know. It's a hack of a solution right now. |
| 10:15.56 | Fisker | I FREAKING FORGOT IT |
| 10:16.02 | Fisker | i hate you Wobin |
| 10:16.03 | DWSR | Matsy: It's essentially a system that associates an avatar with an e-mail address, and whenever you register at a site that supports Gravatar, your avatar gets imported automatically. |
| 10:16.16 | Matsy | Oh! |
| 10:16.18 | Fisker | every freaking time |
| 10:16.20 | Matsy | That's.. highly convenient |
| 10:16.27 | Fisker | it's like a curse |
| 10:16.34 | Antiarc | http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/64ca08a6f17a786ce0854c962fb2356e?s=100&d=wavatar&r=PG is Arrowmaster's - that hash is an MD5 of his email, and the "wavatar" is the fallback solution it uses |
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| 10:16.41 | Wobin | Antiarc, For the character adding, maybe have it save the previous realm? |
| 10:16.47 | Antiarc | Wobin: Yup. |
| 10:16.53 | Antiarc | Working on that at the moment. |
| 10:16.53 | Fisker | oh sweet i got a mail telling me i CAN BUY STUFF FOR EMBLEMS |
| 10:16.54 | Fisker | rly? |
| 10:17.05 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: stop looking at my email address |
| 10:17.14 | Wobin | Antiarc, also, the suggestion realm needs to be clicked, there's no 'tab' select or enter or the like |
| 10:17.15 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: what |
| 10:17.21 | Antiarc | Wobin: Yup, fixed in dev already. |
| 10:17.26 | olafski | I like those textareas that you can resize :D |
| 10:18.43 | olafski | hey I got an off topic question.. I seem to remember there's an old game that used on the fly generated music to ensure you never heard the same melody twice.. does anyone know the name of that game? |
| 10:20.04 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: why do some people have the wavatar and others identicon as the fallback? |
| 10:20.30 | Arrowmaster | and some the monster |
| 10:20.39 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: It picks a wavatar/identicon/monsterid randomly per person |
| 10:20.50 | Antiarc | Mostly just for diversity :P |
| 10:21.10 | Matsy | Man, what's taking WoW so long :( |
| 10:21.22 | Fisker | new flying mount for me! |
| 10:21.37 | olafski | oh yeah.. 5 new mounts for me |
| 10:22.01 | Fisker | what's with all the textures having like this blocky gradient? |
| 10:22.07 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: easter egg request, when i hit update my picture with both inputs blank randomly pick a different fallback method |
| 10:22.12 | olafski | thanks for the reminder, I was wondering if anything worthwhile was added in this patch :) |
| 10:22.19 | Matsy | One thing, I do think the icons for Questions, People and Ask a Questions are horrible :( |
| 10:22.29 | Matsy | *Ask a question |
| 10:23.11 | Antiarc | I'm open to replacing them. :) |
| 10:24.30 | olafski | hmm. about 10% chance of finding either the pet or the mount from kaelthas.. maybe I should start farming him instead of rivendare =( |
| 10:24.31 | Matsy | Hah, that's good, I suppose, I am a horrible graphics artist, but the whole site looks so neat and tidy, and they just don't match up. |
| 10:24.43 | Antiarc | That's fair. |
| 10:24.49 | Fisker | bah |
| 10:24.50 | Fisker | that's lame |
| 10:25.01 | Maldivia | hmm, wonder when wowhead will fix their spell tooltips |
| 10:25.06 | Fisker | you can buy 10 commendations, with a 2 second cooldown |
| 10:25.14 | Fisker | so ~30 seconds to redeem ~1800 honor |
| 10:25.16 | Fisker | screw you |
| 10:25.18 | olafski | haha |
| 10:25.28 | olafski | can't shift+click to buy multiple at once? |
| 10:25.32 | Matsy | Well, that's almost 2 gems, seems to be worthwhile |
| 10:25.36 | Fisker | yes olafski |
| 10:25.40 | olafski | matsy: no that's 0.18 gems |
| 10:25.44 | Fisker | but it's still unique (10) and it has a 2 second cooldown |
| 10:25.45 | olafski | or is it the redeeming that has a cd |
| 10:25.46 | Matsy | Oh! |
| 10:25.47 | olafski | ah |
| 10:25.57 | Matsy | What, I was off there. |
| 10:26.08 | olafski | good thing I don't have a lot of marks |
| 10:26.11 | olafski | I do have a lot of SKS though |
| 10:26.53 | Matsy | SKS? |
| 10:27.15 | olafski | stone keeper shards |
| 10:27.21 | olafski | can't log in yet, the humanity :( |
| 10:27.26 | Matsy | Neither can I :( |
| 10:27.39 | Matsy | I never seem to know what to do with SKS, though. |
| 10:27.44 | Matsy | Except redeeming them for gems. |
| 10:28.20 | olafski | well, I'm going to redeem them for mounts now :P |
| 10:28.54 | olafski | think I should be able to buy at least 4 mounts right away |
| 10:30.06 | olafski | hm I remember seeing the first pvp mount on my realm.. that was a big deal :< |
| 10:31.24 | Legorol | olafski: note that the WG commendations you can buy for SKS are account bound, so if you have spare SKS on alts, you can use them to transfer honor to your main for more mounts |
| 10:31.32 | olafski | yeah I counted those in :) |
| 10:31.36 | olafski | have about 2500 SKS |
| 10:31.37 | DWSR | Antiarc |
| 10:31.41 | Antiarc | yesh |
| 10:31.43 | Legorol | lol, have you not been selling epic gems? |
| 10:31.46 | DWSR | Apostrophes in item names breaks MMOC integration |
| 10:31.46 | olafski | no |
| 10:31.56 | Legorol | i only have 1000 SKS or so, only been saving them since i learnt that we can buy mounts for honor |
| 10:31.58 | olafski | well I sell epic gems, just not from honor |
| 10:31.59 | Antiarc | Oh, it does |
| 10:32.01 | Antiarc | I'll fix that. |
| 10:32.33 | olafski | I sell 3+ per day from alchemy, that nets me enough money.. the ~1 gem I can sell in a week from SKS isn't worth it :P |
| 10:33.00 | Antiarc | DWSR: Link me to an example |
| 10:33.11 | DWSR | Antiarc: I fixed mine. |
| 10:33.26 | DWSR | Try linking yourself to Frost Giant's Cleaver or Burnished Quel'Serrar |
| 10:33.28 | DWSR | err. |
| 10:33.29 | Antiarc | kk |
| 10:33.31 | DWSR | posting with a link to. |
| 10:33.40 | DWSR | Neither are found, but I know they both exist. :P |
| 10:33.57 | Matsy | WoWQU is to ask for item upgrades as well, right? |
| 10:34.13 | Antiarc | You can, sure. ElitistArmory handles the automated aspect of that. |
| 10:34.34 | Antiarc | The idea that Shadowed and I are working with is "EA for automated analysis and suggestion, WowQU for questions that need a human answer" |
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| 10:34.49 | Matsy | Ah, right! |
| 10:35.29 | Antiarc | DWSR: Thanks, will have a fix for the next push. |
| 10:35.29 | Matsy | This will be an awesome project :) |
| 10:38.43 | DWSR | Antiarc: Needs a sources field for posts, btw. |
| 10:38.51 | Antiarc | yup, also on the todo list. |
| 10:43.46 | olafski | how long do you intend these iterations to last? I'm seeing quite a few duplicate reports showing up ;) |
| 10:44.23 | Antiarc | duplicate reports? |
| 10:44.47 | olafski | people are reporting things that you have already confirmed to be an issue |
| 10:45.00 | DWSR | Antiarc: Needs to be the ability to hide questions you've read. |
| 10:45.00 | olafski | on irc that is, I haven't really looked at that bugtracker thing |
| 10:45.04 | Antiarc | Oh. Well, I'm iterating pretty quickly, but some stuff is just low priority. |
| 10:45.14 | Matsy | Man, I just asked a question about stomach pain on Aardvark, and they're telling me to vomit. |
| 10:45.16 | Matsy | What's up with that |
| 10:45.35 | olafski | what's aardvark =( |
| 10:45.42 | Matsy | What! |
| 10:45.59 | Matsy | Aardvark is a place where you can ask any question, a bit like WoWQU, I guess, and people from all over the world will answer it. |
| 10:46.01 | olafski | matsy: dunno about you, but my stomach pain would usually be solved by vomiting.. vomiting has side effects that make it less desirable though :) |
| 10:46.05 | olafski | ah |
| 10:46.09 | olafski | I generally use google for that ;) |
| 10:46.24 | DWSR | Matsy: You could have eaten something bad. |
| 10:46.31 | DWSR | Matsy: The safest way to get rid of it would be to throw it up. |
| 10:46.34 | Matsy | Yeah, it's also what I expected. |
| 10:46.45 | Matsy | Is it really healthy to throw up by yourself? |
| 10:46.58 | olafski | I'd say usually not |
| 10:47.02 | olafski | but yeah |
| 10:47.09 | olafski | that's generally with poisons and such |
| 10:47.21 | olafski | if you ingested something you think may be poisonous be sure to check that chart, I forgot the name |
| 10:47.26 | Matsy | Yeah, it feels like a light type of food poisoning. |
| 10:47.28 | olafski | the one that tells you whether to vomit, not vomit, drink etc |
| 10:47.36 | Matsy | I mean, I ate these horrible instant noodles yesterday |
| 10:47.44 | olafski | if it's yesterday I doubt vomiting will help now |
| 10:47.55 | Matsy | .. oh |
| 10:48.11 | olafski | dunno how long exactly food stays in your stomach but I think not much more than 12 hours |
| 10:48.16 | olafski | probably less |
| 10:48.45 | olafski | I get terrible heartburn with pretty much anything I eat, vomiting would be a nice solution I guess ;) |
| 10:49.53 | Matsy | Hmm, that sounds horrible |
| 10:50.09 | Matsy | Bleh, I'll just try the advice now, I suppose |
| 10:50.22 | olafski | it is not nice I can tell you that :P |
| 10:50.30 | olafski | though it's been getting better now that I'm on a diet |
| 10:50.38 | olafski | both due to eating a bit more healthy and losing weight I imagine |
| 10:50.43 | DWSR | Antiarc: I NEED MOAR QUESTIONS TO ANSWER |
| 10:50.50 | olafski | yes |
| 10:50.54 | olafski | tell this TheFoo to ask more |
| 10:50.57 | olafski | he seems pretty clueless! |
| 10:51.39 | Antiarc | He's a guildmate, seeding with "dumb" questions to help test the question/answer cycle :) |
| 10:51.48 | Matsy | hahahah! |
| 10:51.53 | Matsy | He's a hired fraud! |
| 10:52.22 | Matsy | .. i just got the same authenticator code twice. |
| 10:52.38 | Arrowmaster | how long apart? |
| 10:52.48 | olafski | figured antiarc :P |
| 10:53.16 | Matsy | Well, after the first code, I was a bit too slow to remember all the digits, but at the second code, I saw the exact same code. |
| 10:53.17 | olafski | I'm going to ask a question :D |
| 10:53.26 | DWSR | Antiarc: So, do I get Bane of WoW'Quraj? |
| 10:53.41 | Antiarc | For what bug? :P |
| 10:53.45 | Matsy | Man, what are the odds on that. |
| 10:53.46 | Antiarc | Break it, get an achievement! |
| 10:53.47 | DWSR | The bug in MMOC integration. :P |
| 10:53.52 | Antiarc | Oh, right |
| 10:53.52 | Taroven | Random question of the night. Since statusbars now adjust their width when changing value instead of adjusting texcoords, does this also mean that I'm able to anchor something directly to the end of the statusbar? |
| 10:53.56 | Antiarc | Yeah, fine, you earned it :P |
| 10:54.00 | Arrowmaster | Matsy: its time based not use based so if you pressed it twice within the same time period that probably explains it |
| 10:54.11 | olafski | do I get a preview window when I submit a question? (or can I edit it after submitting?) |
| 10:54.30 | Antiarc | You can edit after submitting |
| 10:54.31 | Matsy | No, that's not what I mean |
| 10:54.32 | Antiarc | Preview is coming |
| 10:54.43 | Matsy | I waited for the first cycle, and the second cycle had the exact same code |
| 10:54.53 | olafski | what's a cycle? |
| 10:55.07 | Matsy | For the authenticator, there's this time period, I'd believe it's like 15 seconds. |
| 10:55.31 | Arrowmaster | code changes every 30 seconds or 60 seconds |
| 10:55.43 | Fisker | the code is valid for much longer |
| 10:55.44 | Matsy | Not on the iPhone App, I suppose |
| 10:55.46 | Fisker | atleast a minute or so |
| 10:56.06 | Arrowmaster | multiple codes are valid at the same time |
| 10:56.23 | Fisker | yep |
| 10:56.35 | Fisker | to compensate for time drift |
| 10:56.35 | Arrowmaster | for clock drift and such |
| 10:56.42 | Fisker | hivemind |
| 10:57.35 | cbreak | answer was not random but predetermined by facts |
| 10:57.37 | cbreak | so it's natural |
| 10:57.55 | olafski | hm I dinged |
| 10:58.01 | olafski | but my xp bar didn't look as if I was going to ding |
| 10:58.15 | cbreak | are you recruit-a-friended? |
| 10:58.17 | Matsy | http://wowqu.com/questions/can-moonkin-fly |
| 10:58.18 | Matsy | Wow. |
| 10:58.22 | olafski | cbreak: I meant on the site :) |
| 10:58.35 | olafski | unless that bar above the xp does not indicate xp |
| 10:58.41 | Matsy | That's awesome. |
| 11:00.32 | *** join/#wowuidev airtonix (~airtonix@unaffiliated/airtonix) |
| 11:00.34 | DWSR | Isnt' the hit cap for yellow attacks 9%? |
| 11:01.02 | olafski | I thought 8% |
| 11:01.18 | Taroven | 8% |
| 11:01.25 | DWSR | heh. |
| 11:01.26 | DWSR | k |
| 11:02.03 | Antiarc | It was 9% in BC |
| 11:02.03 | olafski | antiarc: can I make links using [link=url]text[/link] or something? |
| 11:02.13 | Antiarc | [url=http://foo.bar]Text[/url] |
| 11:02.15 | olafski | ah |
| 11:02.22 | olafski | hmm I'll just specify the spell id instead I guess |
| 11:02.42 | Antiarc | If it's a spell |
| 11:02.57 | Antiarc | Use [spell]Spell Name[/spell] or [spell=12345]Spell Name[/spell] |
| 11:03.00 | Antiarc | Where 12345 is the spell ID |
| 11:03.17 | olafski | aye fixed.. now all my links are correct in the question I asked :P |
| 11:04.44 | Matsy | I wiped on ToC-5 :( |
| 11:04.53 | Matsy | Man. |
| 11:05.03 | Matsy | It better not be 3.3.3 karma. |
| 11:05.38 | Elkano | just had ToC-5, too ^^ didn't wipe though :P |
| 11:05.48 | ZorbaTHut | why is there absolutely no rugged leather in the AH for the last three days |
| 11:05.54 | Matsy | Tanking without righteous fury.. seems silly |
| 11:06.04 | Matsy | And deadly when Holy Light crits for 22k :( |
| 11:06.24 | DWSR | Antiarc: You going to fix people with gravatars set not getting the achievement? |
| 11:06.25 | Adys | shirik :( |
| 11:06.29 | Adys | why you ping :( |
| 11:06.35 | Elkano | oh, fu... 3.3.3 broke FactionsFu's icon... it's a chicken now... |
| 11:07.06 | Antiarc | DWSR: Hadn't planned on it. It's linked to uploading an avatar. |
| 11:07.19 | Elkano | oh, no wait, it's just my icons being messed up... |
| 11:10.51 | Antiarc | New push, added verified characters, among other things. |
| 11:10.52 | Antiarc | http://wowqu.com/people/4b8471c369e0dc5504000005 |
| 11:11.14 | DWSR | Antiarc: Why? Gravatar is perfectly valid and you support it. |
| 11:11.14 | olafski | antiarc: what's that yellow bar that says neutral |
| 11:11.20 | olafski | is that the XP progress or something else? |
| 11:11.29 | Antiarc | olafski: Deprecated functionality. It's linked to XP progress, yeah |
| 11:11.37 | ZorbaTHut | holy shit I just got Hero of Shattrath. they must have scanned the database for the appropriate recipes |
| 11:11.55 | Antiarc | DWSR: To encourage custom avatars rather than the wavatar/identicon fallbacks; I can't tell when someone has a custom gravatar vs a procedural one |
| 11:12.19 | olafski | antiarc: okay |
| 11:12.19 | Matsy | Wow, thanks olafski |
| 11:12.23 | Matsy | It worked. |
| 11:12.23 | DWSR | Antiarc: Ah, Isee. |
| 11:12.26 | olafski | matsy: for what? oO |
| 11:12.28 | DWSR | I guess I'll just cheese it then. |
| 11:12.32 | Matsy | Well, I feel a lot better now |
| 11:12.40 | Matsy | My mouth burns like hell |
| 11:12.45 | Matsy | But my stomach seems to be calmed |
| 11:12.50 | olafski | oO |
| 11:12.53 | olafski | you vomited? |
| 11:12.57 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 11:13.01 | olafski | I didn't tell you to do that :P |
| 11:13.05 | Matsy | What/. |
| 11:13.07 | olafski | I said it most likely wouldn't help :P |
| 11:13.10 | Matsy | Oh! |
| 11:13.20 | olafski | can't hurt too much |
| 11:13.28 | DWSR | Antiarc: I broke character verification |
| 11:13.29 | Matsy | Well, it seems food really stays in longer than 12 hours, then ;) |
| 11:13.35 | Antiarc | DWSR: oh? |
| 11:13.38 | olafski | just be sure to clean your mouth properly, stomach acid is probably really bad for your teeth |
| 11:13.42 | Antiarc | hahahah |
| 11:13.43 | Antiarc | I see it |
| 11:13.44 | Antiarc | Fun |
| 11:13.46 | DWSR | :P |
| 11:13.51 | DWSR | Do I get another achievement for this? |
| 11:13.51 | Antiarc | No, wait |
| 11:13.52 | olafski | matsy: well, your stomach is now empty.. that probably helps regardless |
| 11:13.55 | DWSR | Bug Squasher? :P |
| 11:13.58 | Antiarc | I don't; how did you break it? |
| 11:14.01 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: mine doesnt work either |
| 11:14.07 | Antiarc | Oho |
| 11:14.08 | DWSR | Antiarc: Accented character perhaps? |
| 11:14.08 | Antiarc | I see |
| 11:14.17 | Antiarc | bad URI error - the parser can't parse it |
| 11:14.30 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 11:14.33 | Matsy | It helps a lot |
| 11:14.34 | DWSR | Doesn't like the accented characters? |
| 11:14.39 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 11:14.43 | Antiarc | That's my guess |
| 11:14.44 | Matsy | Thanks, really! |
| 11:14.52 | DWSR | Antiarc: Yeah, it is. |
| 11:14.53 | Antiarc | Yup, that's it |
| 11:14.55 | Arrowmaster | so you need to urlencode it first |
| 11:15.01 | DWSR | I tried importing my character without accented chars first and that works. |
| 11:15.03 | olafski | matsy: :) you could take some acid reducing pills too I guess |
| 11:15.03 | DWSR | My other character doesn't. |
| 11:15.07 | Antiarc | Well, I don't want to double-encode it |
| 11:15.09 | DWSR | ~epic fail Antiarc |
| 11:15.10 | purl | Antiarc, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Antiarc, you are that epic failure. |
| 11:15.12 | DWSR | :) |
| 11:15.21 | Antiarc | Mm. |
| 11:15.30 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: run urldecode on it first then urlencode |
| 11:15.33 | Matsy | Acid reducing pills? |
| 11:16.05 | Wobin | Antiarc, I cannot remove my birthday |
| 11:16.29 | olafski | matsy: yeah.. dunno what they are called, there are some over the counter ones |
| 11:16.36 | Matsy | What do they do? |
| 11:16.37 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: mine wont authenticate |
| 11:16.38 | olafski | matsy: I have the stronger kind, prescribed by my doctor =) |
| 11:16.44 | olafski | they make your stomach produce less acid |
| 11:16.46 | Matsy | Oh! |
| 11:16.49 | Matsy | Yeah, we have those in here |
| 11:16.51 | olafski | matsy: milk also helps |
| 11:16.54 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Can you PM it to me so I can test with it? |
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| 11:16.57 | olafski | that neutralizes the acid that's already in there |
| 11:16.59 | Matsy | Coca Cola doesn't? ;p |
| 11:17.04 | olafski | no.. cola does the opposite |
| 11:17.07 | Matsy | ... oh |
| 11:17.09 | Matsy | Right |
| 11:17.14 | Matsy | I drank coca cola all morning |
| 11:17.22 | Matsy | To get rid of this horrible feeling |
| 11:17.38 | Matsy | Guess that didn't help |
| 11:17.48 | olafski | cola is rather acidic |
| 11:17.54 | olafski | alcohol doesn't help either btw :P |
| 11:18.01 | olafski | or spicy food |
| 11:18.10 | olafski | or generally eating/drinking too much |
| 11:19.01 | DWSR | Antiarc: Just broke your webserver. Got a 413. |
| 11:19.15 | Antiarc | ...413? |
| 11:19.16 | Matsy | hahaha |
| 11:19.20 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 11:19.32 | Antiarc | HTTP Error 413: Request Entity Too Large |
| 11:19.34 | Antiarc | What did you do? |
| 11:19.52 | Fisker | did it raise an exception? |
| 11:19.59 | Matsy | I'll take those pills when my stomach is a bit better. Thanks olafski :) |
| 11:20.14 | DWSR | Antiarc: Tried to upload a 1MB JPG as my avatar. :D |
| 11:20.14 | Matsy | Bleh, I was in a battleground :( Seems like a waste |
| 11:20.25 | olafski | try not to take them too often matsy =) |
| 11:20.28 | Wobin | Antiarc, hm, using the verification system, I now have duplicate toons |
| 11:20.30 | Antiarc | DWSR: ah. That'll do it. |
| 11:20.31 | Matsy | I've never even used them ;p |
| 11:20.35 | Antiarc | Wobin: You can remove the dupes |
| 11:20.38 | olafski | e.g. if you feel you have to take them daily better visit a doctor |
| 11:20.43 | DWSR | Antiarc: Also, want to unset my avatar so that I can get my Gravatar back. |
| 11:20.44 | Antiarc | There's a delete link next to them on the character management page |
| 11:20.45 | DWSR | Antiarc: Thanks. |
| 11:20.47 | olafski | they have nice procedures to see if something is wrong with your stomach :( |
| 11:20.58 | Matsy | What, no |
| 11:21.00 | Antiarc | I'll add a remove avatar link |
| 11:21.05 | Matsy | This is the first time I felt like this |
| 11:21.09 | olafski | good |
| 11:21.10 | Wobin | Antiarc, not having it autodedupe? =) |
| 11:21.11 | olafski | pray it's the last :P |
| 11:21.18 | Matsy | The other times when my stomach was aching, was because of my migraine |
| 11:21.20 | Fisker | i'm following you Wobin |
| 11:21.24 | Antiarc | Wobin: It should have, checking why it iddn't |
| 11:21.24 | Fisker | because i am a stalker |
| 11:21.31 | Antiarc | Trying to solve this encoding issue ATM |
| 11:21.37 | Fisker | btw Antiarc |
| 11:21.45 | Fisker | there should be AN ACHIEVEMENT FOR GIVING YOU AN IDEA |
| 11:21.49 | DWSR | lol |
| 11:21.50 | DWSR | Amen. |
| 11:21.51 | Fisker | which was awesome as hell |
| 11:21.57 | DWSR | It should stack, imo. |
| 11:22.00 | Fisker | just sayin' |
| 11:22.45 | olafski | man they should really reduce the amount of graphical effects on the login screen |
| 11:23.17 | Matsy | Yeah! |
| 11:23.25 | Fisker | btw Antiarc |
| 11:23.32 | DWSR | olafski: No they shouldn't. |
| 11:23.33 | DWSR | In fact. |
| 11:23.35 | DWSR | MOAR BLOOM |
| 11:23.41 | olafski | I get lower fps on the login screen than in dalaran, on my server |
| 11:23.52 | olafski | on my game pc it's ok |
| 11:23.54 | Fisker | if armory returns an error it'll just say it failed without any meaningful feedback |
| 11:24.22 | DWSR | MUST HIT LEVEL 3 ON WOWQU |
| 11:24.23 | Fisker | lol |
| 11:24.29 | Fisker | what does levels do? |
| 11:24.33 | DWSR | Shit all. |
| 11:24.52 | DWSR | Antiarc: http://wowqu.com/people/4ba9d27769e0dc4dfa000037/achievements vs. http://wowqu.com/people/4ba9d27769e0dc4dfa000037 <-- Fail. |
| 11:25.08 | Antiarc | Why fail? |
| 11:25.13 | Antiarc | Also, char import with encodings works now |
| 11:25.32 | DWSR | Because I earned all of those achievements today, and that's definitely recent. :P |
| 11:25.36 | Taroven | http://wowspro.com/addons/ ... wtf, looks like they're just serving up a crapload of curse links. |
| 11:25.46 | Antiarc | recent is the 4 most recent achievements |
| 11:25.58 | DWSR | Heh. :P |
| 11:26.13 | Taroven | Just found that through a random pingback... |
| 11:26.55 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: dwsr has the taking sides achievement but the page says neutral |
| 11:26.58 | DWSR | Antiarc: No, it doesn't. |
| 11:27.08 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: He has a Horde icon by his name |
| 11:27.11 | Antiarc | DWSR: bah. |
| 11:27.12 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 11:27.15 | DWSR | Char verification is still broken. |
| 11:27.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Xinhuan (~xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan) |
| 11:27.22 | Arrowmaster | then wtf is that neutral for |
| 11:27.23 | Antiarc | The neutral bar is related to XP; it's legacy and needs to be replaced |
| 11:27.25 | DWSR | and no, I am NOT Chaud. |
| 11:27.28 | DWSR | mkay"? |
| 11:27.52 | cbreak | neutral? For swiss people. |
| 11:28.41 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: verify my characters for me since i cant until i reactivate my account |
| 11:29.08 | Antiarc | balllllssss |
| 11:29.13 | Antiarc | why is the URI parser failing |
| 11:29.55 | olafski | 83 wintergrasp commendations.. mm |
| 11:31.06 | Antiarc | AHA |
| 11:31.10 | DWSR | Antiarc: Sexycooldown isn't honoring my Bar Max Time. |
| 11:31.17 | DWSR | Antiarc: I have it at 15s, bar's still showing up to 30. |
| 11:31.39 | Antiarc | Try the import again, DWSR |
| 11:31.44 | Antiarc | Also I'm pretty sure you're just cursed |
| 11:31.57 | DWSR | Unable to validate. |
| 11:32.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Legorol|alt (~legorol@cpc1-cmbg12-0-0-cust184.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 11:32.19 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Legorol|alt] by ChanServ |
| 11:32.50 | Antiarc | balllllssss. |
| 11:33.00 | Antiarc | Can you PM me the URL you're using? |
| 11:33.20 | Adys | nevcairiel: why isn't quartz on wowi! |
| 11:35.17 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
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| 11:37.14 | olafski | dang 17k honor short for the 5th mount =( |
| 11:38.58 | olafski | hey cool, items that start a quest are now marked |
| 11:39.06 | olafski | or perhaps that's an addon I have :/ |
| 11:39.46 | Arrowmaster | items? they always were i thought |
| 11:39.55 | olafski | hm I never saw this before |
| 11:39.59 | olafski | there's now a ! over the icon |
| 11:40.03 | Arrowmaster | "This item starts a quest" or something in the tooltip |
| 11:40.06 | olafski | yeah |
| 11:40.11 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah they changed the icons |
| 11:40.14 | olafski | but now you can see it without looking at the tooltip |
| 11:40.16 | Arrowmaster | was in the patch notes |
| 11:42.08 | ZorbaTHut | still waiting for my faction to get wintergrasp :( |
| 11:45.47 | olafski | mm 64/0/7 will be my blood spec :> |
| 11:45.56 | Fisker | AHAHHA |
| 11:46.01 | Fisker | i want my damn bug achievement now |
| 11:46.04 | Fisker | or i will raise hell |
| 11:46.42 | Fisker | http://wowqu.com/questions/can-this-site-differentiate-between-two-items-using-the-item-tags |
| 11:47.02 | DWSR | Fisker: Yep. |
| 11:47.05 | DWSR | Already pointed that out. |
| 11:47.09 | Antiarc | Fisker: am I going to have to Unicode filter your ass. |
| 11:47.15 | Fisker | oh you are |
| 11:47.22 | Antiarc | :P |
| 11:48.00 | DWSR | Dude. |
| 11:48.07 | DWSR | I should be like level 80 on this site already. |
| 11:48.12 | DWSR | 5 bugs, jigga wat! |
| 11:48.23 | Fisker | I found another bug! |
| 11:48.29 | Fisker | It tells me i have 501 achievement points |
| 11:48.33 | Fisker | better make it so, amirite? |
| 11:48.47 | DWSR | lol |
| 11:48.48 | Fisker | or XP |
| 11:48.59 | DWSR | http://wowqu.com/people/4ba9cff769e0dc4dfa00000e Win |
| 11:49.12 | DWSR | Fisker: It says you only have 105. |
| 11:49.35 | Fisker | i know |
| 11:49.39 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 11:49.52 | Fisker | but the RLO character isn't properly seperated on my login thing |
| 11:50.06 | olafski | I don't really get Zaythi's answer to my question |
| 11:50.08 | Fisker | so it shows (501) nidreksiF instead of Fiskerdin (105) |
| 11:50.09 | Fisker | :3 |
| 11:50.16 | olafski | Generally, you want the slower weapon as a tank due to rage generation. Faster constant swings are better for generating rage. <-- this seems contradictory |
| 11:50.38 | DWSR | It is. |
| 11:51.03 | zenzio | could be just missing a "don't" |
| 11:51.07 | ZorbaTHut | yeah they're just flat-out wrong |
| 11:51.17 | olafski | yeah guess it's missing a don't |
| 11:51.33 | olafski | I don't really have a low health pool and no issue with threat either.. but I get the feeling most of my rage doesn't come from doing damage either |
| 11:51.53 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: damnit mine still says 171 |
| 11:52.01 | Fisker | yeah Arrowmaster |
| 11:52.11 | Fisker | but Antiarc owes me atleast a billion experience points |
| 11:52.17 | Fisker | he was like "oh no i don't know what to do" |
| 11:52.21 | Fisker | and i was like "Here's what you do" |
| 11:52.24 | Fisker | :D |
| 11:52.42 | Fisker | This is why Blizzard doesn't answer to suggestions |
| 11:52.59 | Arrowmaster | did you fix yours Fisker or did Antiarc |
| 11:53.11 | Antiarc | I'm working on other stuff. |
| 11:53.17 | Fisker | i did Arrowmaster |
| 11:53.18 | olafski | heh the Devastate tooltip in my question says "requires polearms" :P |
| 11:53.27 | Arrowmaster | lol Wobin |
| 11:54.18 | Arrowmaster | uรยฑqoรย |
| 11:54.21 | DWSR | http://wowqu.com/people/4ba9d27769e0dc4dfa000037/followers :( |
| 11:55.00 | haste | man, the google ads on that site :P |
| 11:55.12 | haste | "Sign up, Log in, Myspace, Log in" |
| 11:55.47 | *** join/#wowuidev boshi23 (~chris@c-68-36-37-83.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 11:55.53 | Wobin | http://wowqu.com/people/4ba563b169e0dc0c7f000024 |
| 11:55.54 | Wobin | awesome |
| 11:56.15 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 11:56.21 | Fisker | i wonder if he sanitized his database input |
| 11:56.23 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 11:56.29 | Antiarc | It's mongodb |
| 11:56.30 | Fisker | oh |
| 11:56.32 | Antiarc | Which is not an SQL store |
| 11:56.40 | Antiarc | good luck injecting that |
| 11:56.50 | haste | needs more tokyo cabinet! |
| 11:58.21 | Fisker | says here i can exploit some javascript |
| 11:58.27 | Fisker | maybe i can find something to give me max xp |
| 11:58.29 | DWSR | http://www.cad-comic.com/sillies/ <- win |
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| 11:58.58 | Fisker | bolo santosi or the comic? |
| 11:59.15 | DWSR | the silly. |
| 11:59.44 | Fisker | i want to play just cause 2 |
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| 12:00.32 | Fisker | there really should be some kind of law against releasing a product later than the first release date |
| 12:01.12 | Fisker | But then we'll probably just end up with "Just Cause 2", "Just Cause: The Super Duper European Edition 2" and "Just Cause: Just Cause we want to release a few days later in asia 2" |
| 12:02.32 | Wobin | Antiarc, http://wowqu.com/people/4b8471c369e0dc5504000005 |
| 12:02.36 | Kalroth | "Just Cause 2: Hookin' The Fisker" |
| 12:02.53 | Antiarc | Wobin: What am I looking at, specifically? |
| 12:03.03 | Kalroth | an ugly profile!! |
| 12:03.03 | Antiarc | unless you mean the backwards stuff |
| 12:03.04 | Wobin | oh wait, no it's fine |
| 12:03.06 | Antiarc | which I am fixing. |
| 12:03.30 | Fisker | in what way? |
| 12:03.36 | Fisker | Disabling or just properly escaping it? |
| 12:03.43 | Antiarc | Properly escaping. |
| 12:03.46 | Fisker | kk |
| 12:04.34 | Wobin | yeah proper escaping will help this |
| 12:05.05 | Antiarc | Trying to find doc on the "right" way to do it. |
| 12:05.26 | Wobin | http://screencast.com/t/ODQ5MGM3Y |
| 12:05.30 | Fisker | i need 5 mounts :( |
| 12:05.34 | Arrowmaster | just blacklist those control codes |
| 12:05.43 | cbreak | Haha... seems they added a framerate limit of 200 Hz to wow... who the hell has a 200 Hz screen? |
| 12:05.57 | Kalroth | CRT lamers? |
| 12:06.04 | cbreak | I don't think so |
| 12:06.09 | Fisker | any newer tv? |
| 12:06.22 | Ycarene | Pally power only cares about class for buffs right? |
| 12:06.39 | Matsy | What do you mean, Ycarene? |
| 12:06.44 | Kalroth | My LCD got a refresh rate of 800 GigaHz |
| 12:06.56 | Wobin | it refreshes FASTER THAN LIGHT |
| 12:06.58 | zenzio | you kids these days |
| 12:07.13 | Ycarene | You can't set buffs by role right? (so that it puts wisdom on the healer regardless of class...) |
| 12:08.03 | zenzio | when I was young we had to print out what was in the computer's memory and draw the picture by hand |
| 12:08.03 | Matsy | You can. |
| 12:08.03 | Matsy | You can set it per player, actually |
| 12:08.03 | krka | cbreak: http://www.sony.se/lang/se/hub/bravia-lcd-tv/5/1 |
| 12:08.03 | Ycarene | Mmmm, punch cards... |
| 12:08.03 | Matsy | I mean, you can't really assign them into roles |
| 12:08.03 | Matsy | If that's what you mean |
| 12:08.04 | Fisker | old krka |
| 12:08.04 | Fisker | i already told him |
| 12:08.08 | cbreak | seems like a waste of money |
| 12:08.21 | Fisker | it kinda is |
| 12:08.30 | Fisker | all it does is screw up text |
| 12:08.35 | Ycarene | I wonder if it could be modified to see if there's a role assigned to a player, allowing you to assign certain buffs by said role or even specs... |
| 12:08.38 | cbreak | considering TV signals only have 50 or 60 Hz depending on standard |
| 12:08.42 | Fisker | picture quality is usually negible |
| 12:08.52 | cbreak | or 24 Hz if you use HD Movie content |
| 12:09.37 | Arrowmaster | 23.976 Hz |
| 12:09.49 | cbreak | oh you poor NTSC people |
| 12:09.56 | cbreak | and it's 24000/1001 :) |
| 12:10.01 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 12:10.14 | Ycarene | I should plumb the source code and see if that can be done. |
| 12:10.14 | Arrowmaster | but thats what HD movie content is in isnt it? |
| 12:10.14 | krka | cbreak: could be useful for 3d-stuff i guess |
| 12:10.35 | cbreak | hmm... time multiplexed stereo maybe |
| 12:10.52 | Arrowmaster | and NTSC is 30000/1001 not 24000/1001 |
| 12:11.05 | cbreak | NTSC FILM is 24... |
| 12:11.13 | cbreak | NTSC TV is 30... |
| 12:11.21 | cbreak | well |
| 12:11.22 | Cide | it's not difficult to have 200fps in, say, the login menu |
| 12:11.36 | cbreak | there's lots of mucking around with telecine/interlacing |
| 12:11.56 | Arrowmaster | NTSC TV doesnt exist anymore |
| 12:11.59 | cbreak | Cide: it is impossible to have more than 60 Hz anywhere unless you have hardware that can display more |
| 12:12.09 | Cide | oh really |
| 12:12.12 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: tell that to DVD manufacturers |
| 12:12.13 | zenzio | you need to make a distinction |
| 12:12.30 | zenzio | you can "draw" more than the refresh rate to memory, it just won't display |
| 12:12.31 | Cide | 60hz is hardly commonplace in most modern monitors, cbreak |
| 12:12.52 | cbreak | all the ones I've seen do 60 Hz |
| 12:12.59 | Cide | mine is 120hz |
| 12:13.12 | zenzio | 120 Hz LCD+ |
| 12:13.14 | zenzio | *? |
| 12:13.17 | Cide | yes |
| 12:13.17 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: dvds are an abomination of storing a digital signal in the absolutely worst most ass backwards way using as many analog techniques as possible |
| 12:13.20 | Cide | most old CRT's do 85hz |
| 12:13.29 | Wobin | Antiarc, hehe, I can't re-edit my account anymore =) |
| 12:13.30 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: indeed. |
| 12:13.33 | zenzio | Cide: expensive? I tend to just see 60 Hz LCDs, the odd 75 |
| 12:13.36 | Antiarc | Wobin: heh, broke it? |
| 12:13.41 | cbreak | they even use macrovision protection :( |
| 12:13.44 | Cide | hardly expensive |
| 12:13.44 | Arrowmaster | ivtc is evil |
| 12:13.58 | cbreak | neccessary evil |
| 12:14.04 | cbreak | telecine is the true evil |
| 12:14.05 | zenzio | Cide: interesting. I may have to check some new webshops next time I'm buying then |
| 12:14.15 | Cide | viewsonic vx2265wm for instance |
| 12:15.12 | Arrowmaster | telecine, killing smooth motion since whenever the fuck dvds came out |
| 12:15.26 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 12:15.41 | cbreak | I am in a pal region, so we got speed-up movies instead |
| 12:15.58 | cbreak | more efficient to watch too :) |
| 12:16.28 | Arrowmaster | can i take your video and slow it down to match my audio? |
| 12:17.36 | cbreak | it's still sucky |
| 12:17.54 | cbreak | pal has a slightly higher res than ntsc, but both are anamorph, and small |
| 12:17.58 | cbreak | and interlaced |
| 12:18.53 | cbreak | Hmm... this web shop doesn't even write the refresh rate the LCDs it sells supports :( |
| 12:18.58 | Arrowmaster | recent stuff isnt interlaced |
| 12:19.22 | olafski | mm I want that 250GB xbox 360 drive =( |
| 12:19.25 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: always lookup monitors on their manufactures sites |
| 12:19.50 | Arrowmaster | olafski: i remember microsoft saying they 'would not release a standalone 250gb drive' |
| 12:20.00 | cbreak | 250? 1.5T is the current sweet spot I think. |
| 12:20.17 | Arrowmaster | 2.5" drives |
| 12:20.26 | olafski | not for the xbox 360 cbreak ;) |
| 12:20.35 | olafski | yeah they did say that arrowmaster |
| 12:20.46 | olafski | but now they are releasing it, and the price isn't half bad...... compared to the old drives |
| 12:20.57 | cbreak | it's DRMed? |
| 12:20.59 | olafski | yes |
| 12:21.03 | olafski | play.com has it for 120 euro |
| 12:21.06 | Arrowmaster | same price |
| 12:21.20 | olafski | still a lot compared to what normal hard drives cost but the 120GB was about 120 euro too yeah |
| 12:21.36 | olafski | might get it someday ;) being able to install only one game is a bit mediocre |
| 12:22.05 | olafski | and man, GoW3 looks nice :( |
| 12:22.46 | krka | garden or war? |
| 12:22.53 | krka | *of |
| 12:23.16 | olafski | something like that |
| 12:23.32 | DWSR | Antiarc: WTB the ability to associate your account with multiple login IDs. |
| 12:23.43 | Antiarc | Yeah, eventually |
| 12:23.48 | Antiarc | That's a whole bucket of worms. |
| 12:24.15 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: what exactly is mine associated to right now? |
| 12:24.33 | Antiarc | Not in a position to check at the moment |
| 12:24.33 | olafski | krka: it's not gears of war either ;) |
| 12:24.36 | Antiarc | OpenID is likely |
| 12:25.03 | Arrowmaster | yes but what exactly, my i-name or i-number? both? |
| 12:25.22 | Arrowmaster | stackoverflow just uses i-number and its annoying |
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| 12:25.52 | Arrowmaster | and also wrong i think, since i have multiple i-names on that one i-number |
| 12:26.07 | Arrowmaster | and i dont think they can detect if i use a different i-name |
| 12:26.13 | Antiarc | identity_urls: ["=Arrowmaster"] |
| 12:26.17 | cbreak | iName? iNumber? Just wait until apple sues you. |
| 12:26.25 | DWSR | cbreak: hehe |
| 12:26.38 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: you arent storing the i-number? security risk! |
| 12:26.48 | Antiarc | Yeah, I'm looking at that >_< |
| 12:26.57 | Antiarc | I assumed the library would handle it. |
| 12:27.00 | Antiarc | Bad assumption. |
| 12:27.07 | Arrowmaster | yeah bad assumption |
| 12:27.23 | Arrowmaster | since FUCKING NOTHING PROPERLY HANDLES I-NAMES AS OPENIDS! |
| 12:27.30 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 12:27.30 | Antiarc | heh |
| 12:27.38 | Arrowmaster | not even the fucking libraries written by people on the OpenID board |
| 12:28.11 | DWSR | especially not those |
| 12:28.54 | cbreak | I like OpenID |
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| 12:29.00 | cbreak | but I have no idea what i-names are |
| 12:29.14 | zenzio | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I-name |
| 12:29.15 | Arrowmaster | <Antiarc> identity_urls: ["=Arrowmaster"] |
| 12:29.19 | zenzio | had to look it up myself |
| 12:29.26 | DWSR | Oh no |
| 12:29.30 | Arrowmaster | i dont have to type a url |
| 12:29.35 | Arrowmaster | i just type =Arrowmaster |
| 12:31.03 | Kalroth | awwowmasta |
| 12:31.50 | cbreak | hmm. Who assigns those? |
| 12:32.02 | Arrowmaster | I-Brokers |
| 12:33.25 | cbreak | wikipedia doesn't have much on that |
| 12:34.31 | Kalroth | wtf, they want money for those names? |
| 12:34.35 | Kalroth | aren't there any free brokers? |
| 12:34.36 | Antiarc | Okay, well, Unicode control chars are all filtered now. |
| 12:34.40 | cbreak | domain names cost money |
| 12:34.46 | Kalroth | inames, silly |
| 12:34.46 | cbreak | it's probably similar |
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| 12:35.23 | cbreak | it's a pain to get a short domain name that's not some crazy unpronouncable acronym these days :( |
| 12:35.28 | Arrowmaster | Kalroth: www.freexri.com |
| 12:35.43 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: yeah but thats with set prefixes |
| 12:35.51 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 12:35.55 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Global_functions&diff=2218270&oldid=2213250 if anyone was wondering |
| 12:36.08 | Kalroth | <Arrowmaster> i just type =Arrowmaster <- no prefix |
| 12:36.19 | Arrowmaster | = is the prefix |
| 12:36.22 | Arrowmaster | means personal |
| 12:36.27 | Wobin | Antiarc, yep, broken =) |
| 12:36.58 | Antiarc | ya'll are making my job hard >:| |
| 12:37.05 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: well duh :P freexri only got =start*username stuff, nothing where I can get just =Kalroth |
| 12:37.19 | Wobin | Antiarc, ^^ that's why you love us |
| 12:37.21 | Arrowmaster | yeah you have to pay for that |
| 12:37.29 | Arrowmaster | like i do |
| 12:37.39 | cbreak | is the system hierarchical? |
| 12:37.43 | Kalroth | hence we're back to my original outburst :) |
| 12:37.48 | cbreak | if not, you could just make your own broker |
| 12:38.04 | cbreak | if it's hierarchical, you can just get a domain name instead |
| 12:38.13 | Arrowmaster | if you would have signed up when they were first available you could have gotten 50 years for a set low price |
| 12:38.36 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: its sorta hierarchical |
| 12:38.50 | Kalroth | the first place I've ever seen a reference to them is on Antiarc's site, so :P |
| 12:39.15 | cbreak | it'll be dead technology in a few years probably |
| 12:39.16 | Arrowmaster | you can actually combine two inorder to express a relationship |
| 12:39.34 | Kalroth | hot |
| 12:39.34 | Arrowmaster | with the way things are going with openid yeah it probably will be |
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| 12:39.47 | Antiarc | Oauth is taking OpenID's intended place |
| 12:39.50 | Antiarc | Which is sort of funny |
| 12:39.55 | cbreak | how's it related with OpenID? |
| 12:40.05 | jnwhiteh | how does oauth work? |
| 12:40.08 | cbreak | I have an OpenID identity on my own shared hosting server |
| 12:40.09 | jnwhiteh | I know my twitter client uses it =) |
| 12:40.18 | cbreak | without even knowing about this i-name thing |
| 12:40.20 | Antiarc | OAuth is for delegated authorized access to resources, whereas OpenID is for delgated authentication |
| 12:40.35 | Antiarc | But if you have access to a resource, you are authorized as a matter of process |
| 12:40.37 | Arrowmaster | they fucked the pooch on xri (i-names) and openid 2.0 because they didnt make any requirements so most things dont properly support them |
| 12:40.38 | jnwhiteh | hrm, alright |
| 12:40.49 | Antiarc | Oauth is a "superset" of OpenID, kind of. |
| 12:40.58 | Antiarc | Not really, but it's used that way, functionally |
| 12:41.00 | cbreak | hmm... so it's like kerberos in it's intent? |
| 12:41.38 | Antiarc | http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4oW1i9UJPmkJ:developer.linkedin.com/docs/DOC-1008.pdf%3Bjsessionid%3D697DC85E3CB2EDDBC14851BF5DDBE1E1.node0+oauth+cycle&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShfg7Mbjf-Lcn5RWP5i5Jc3CUbhd0qJ-UtVNMWbn54VrHJvDgqEa_cPJrhyBgO9KHf70cHbYYs0FE5BjbM2o4lxpW-2iDDxccd7IpciF5odDv-YzfnbnPrbs2ypu9ClhydMsmm4&sig=AHIEtbSKMIYNlHHHUAjdc6no5ESnon3iIQ |
| 12:41.38 | Kalroth | Oauth is a special key! |
| 12:41.40 | Antiarc | Look at page 4 |
| 12:41.54 | Kalroth | http://oauth.net/about/ second section describes it pretty well |
| 12:41.55 | cbreak | oh my god |
| 12:41.55 | Kalroth | imo |
| 12:41.56 | cbreak | what a link |
| 12:42.05 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 12:42.15 | cbreak | and it requires java script to even be followed |
| 12:42.17 | cbreak | ... |
| 12:42.19 | Kalroth | cbreak: here you go, its Antiarcs link: http://to./3d2c |
| 12:42.35 | Arrowmaster | also so few sites allow logging in with openid |
| 12:42.50 | Arrowmaster | everybody is a fucking openid provider though |
| 12:42.54 | cbreak | haha, someone got a TLD for an url shortener? |
| 12:42.58 | Kalroth | well openid is inheritly broken, since everyone can supply it |
| 12:43.05 | Kalroth | for validation anyways |
| 12:43.05 | jnwhiteh | cbreak: they didn't 'get' a tld |
| 12:43.06 | jnwhiteh | they had a tld |
| 12:43.12 | Antiarc | Google and Yahoo do OpenID "right", IMO |
| 12:43.14 | Arrowmaster | Kalroth: that doesnt make it broken |
| 12:43.14 | jnwhiteh | and made it a url shortener :P |
| 12:43.22 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: no they dont |
| 12:43.28 | Antiarc | I mean from a UX perspective |
| 12:43.30 | cbreak | Kalroth: it's not validation, it's identification |
| 12:43.32 | Antiarc | I know it's not spec-compliant |
| 12:43.35 | Arrowmaster | i cant login to google using my openid |
| 12:43.41 | cbreak | besides, everyone can give out SSL certs too |
| 12:43.44 | Antiarc | I mean using Google as an OpenID provider |
| 12:43.51 | Antiarc | They have a single endpoint URL |
| 12:44.01 | cbreak | I am my own OpenID provider |
| 12:44.03 | Antiarc | Which they then expand into your OpenID identifier once you're authed over there |
| 12:44.11 | Kalroth | well yes, but you can't trust openid at all, its basically just a macro of information that you can chose to use when creating a new user, nothing else |
| 12:44.14 | Antiarc | So you just click the Google button and you're in |
| 12:44.17 | cbreak | but there are only few pages where OpenID is supported |
| 12:44.26 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: thats part of the openid 2.0 spec |
| 12:44.33 | Antiarc | Oh, is it? Nice. |
| 12:44.40 | Antiarc | I was under the impression it was a deviation. |
| 12:44.46 | Antiarc | It's very usable, though. |
| 12:44.49 | Arrowmaster | yeah it broke a lot of the shit still using openid 1.0 |
| 12:44.50 | cbreak | OpenID is a replacement for giving them your password |
| 12:44.54 | cbreak | not for signing up to them |
| 12:45.18 | Arrowmaster | facebook lets you give them your openid |
| 12:45.25 | cbreak | you still have to sign up, but instead of chosing a password, you provide an openid |
| 12:45.28 | Arrowmaster | they dont let you do anything once you give it to them though |
| 12:45.41 | Arrowmaster | they just pull as much info as they can from it |
| 12:45.51 | Antiarc | Facebook's a black hole |
| 12:45.56 | cbreak | no |
| 12:46.02 | cbreak | no information escapes from black holes |
| 12:46.06 | cbreak | (lots of exceptions!) |
| 12:46.18 | Kalroth | Facebook's an ass hole |
| 12:46.27 | cbreak | I can sign that. |
| 12:46.42 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: googles support for google apps domains is an extension though, and a really fucking bad one at that |
| 12:46.58 | Antiarc | I haven't tried to implement support for it. |
| 12:47.35 | Arrowmaster | for being able to just give your email address i think, they want you to run all logings through them first and they will tell you if its something they handle or not |
| 12:47.54 | Arrowmaster | its fucking horrible |
| 12:48.51 | Arrowmaster | stupid idea |
| 12:50.19 | Arrowmaster | it would be like microsoft trying to get windows live accounts on XMPP and telling everybody that since they allow people to register with any email address and they dont have access to all the domains being used on their service to put the proper dns entries that everybody should check with them first to see if a user is being hosted by windows live |
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| 12:54.12 | alestane | huggles Lopeppeppy. |
| 12:54.19 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, dear. |
| 12:54.35 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 12:54.50 | Wobin | Antiarc, haha! Got around it by editing with firebug =P |
| 12:54.51 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cairenn. Sun rises sometimes, whether we want it to or not, huh? |
| 12:54.56 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 12:54.59 | olafski | hm quest items are now also marked yellow.. I get the feeling this is an addon instead of blizzard doing it |
| 12:55.46 | Lopeppeppy | You know the answer, olafski, turn 'em off and find out! |
| 12:55.55 | alestane | It does, although you wouldn't know it around here at the moment. |
| 12:56.13 | Matsy | aaah |
| 12:56.16 | zenzio | olafski: "marked yellow" how? |
| 12:56.16 | Matsy | I wanted to spoil it :( |
| 12:56.21 | Matsy | It's not an addon ;) |
| 12:56.25 | Matsy | I don't use any addons, and I see it as well |
| 12:56.27 | olafski | meh I'll just be thankful instead lopeppeppy ;) |
| 12:56.36 | Lopeppeppy | I have sun, sort of, and ~200 chattering high school seniors in my lobby farkin' up my mojo |
| 12:56.38 | olafski | zenzio: they have a yellowish "glow" |
| 12:56.51 | olafski | no addons at all matsy? what are you doing here! |
| 12:56.51 | Matsy | Items that start a quest also have a question mark in their icon |
| 12:56.57 | olafski | yeah I noticed that before |
| 12:56.59 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: you can have some of my mojo |
| 12:57.01 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds like how the herbs glow... Sounds like Matsy has the info for us. |
| 12:57.03 | olafski | both nice features :) |
| 12:57.06 | Matsy | olafski, socializing! :) |
| 12:57.06 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio, fork it right over. |
| 12:57.11 | zenzio | \o/ |
| 12:57.12 | olafski | herbs glow? :o |
| 12:57.19 | Matsy | I am a good healer that doesn't need addons! |
| 12:57.30 | olafski | ugh healing without addons sounds horrible :P |
| 12:57.32 | Matsy | Well, only because most of the raids I do are faceroll raids :+ |
| 12:57.46 | Matsy | Since the real raids are at 7PM, and I am always having my dinner then :( |
| 12:57.49 | ZorbaTHut | *playing* without addons sounds horrible :P |
| 12:57.52 | Lopeppeppy | Sparkle, glow, whatever. |
| 12:57.53 | Matsy | It's doable ;p |
| 12:57.56 | olafski | lopeppeppy: oh, no not that |
| 12:58.11 | Matsy | When I get back to my real computer, I'll have my UI again |
| 12:58.14 | olafski | lopeppeppy: more like how bagnon(? i think) marks epic/blue items so you can easily distinguish them in your bags |
| 12:58.28 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 12:58.32 | Matsy | It's the blizzard UI <3 |
| 12:58.34 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, never used a bag addon, they drive me insane. But it sounds neat as a feature. |
| 12:58.50 | olafski | I tried using a bag addon and it drove me insane too |
| 12:59.04 | alestane | I noticed it when the "Load out-of-date add-ons" box disabled Baggins briefly. |
| 12:59.07 | Lopeppeppy | I want my crap where I put it. In special bags. I like it. |
| 12:59.25 | Matsy | My bags are empty |
| 12:59.27 | Matsy | :( |
| 12:59.34 | olafski | lopeppeppy: http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/1592/16084/bagnon2-classic.png look at the purple'ish "glow" on the items, that's what I mean :) |
| 12:59.35 | Matsy | I do not need any addon to make them into one bag |
| 12:59.57 | olafski | I like an addon to auto sell junk though.. like AutoVendor (is that shameless or what :P) |
| 13:00.33 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 13:00.45 | Matsy | I use that one as well, on my other machine |
| 13:01.07 | olafski | good choice! |
| 13:01.14 | Matsy | I only use like 20 addons in total |
| 13:01.46 | zenzio | only way I could use 20 addons is if you count all the "sub-addons" |
| 13:01.55 | Matsy | Yeah |
| 13:02.01 | Matsy | I am counting the folders in my list, zenzio |
| 13:02.11 | zenzio | =) |
| 13:02.13 | Matsy | That adds up to 21. |
| 13:02.18 | Matsy | So I guess I don't use that many\ |
| 13:02.18 | alestane | I like Baggins because it looks basically like the standard bags, but saves me the need to go in and organize my bags myself all the time. |
| 13:02.58 | Matsy | I've been hanging on the char loading screen for like 20 minutes now :( |
| 13:03.02 | Matsy | Blizzard doesn't want me to play more |
| 13:03.21 | zenzio | are you in EU? |
| 13:03.27 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 13:03.27 | olafski | I had that too |
| 13:03.31 | olafski | closed the client and restarted, then it worked ;p |
| 13:03.38 | zenzio | I assume it's just patch day fun then |
| 13:05.22 | olafski | oh man the new revenge makes aoe grinding so much nicer :P |
| 13:06.26 | zenzio | it's <3 |
| 13:06.57 | alestane | Talent change, right? Revenge cleaves? |
| 13:07.17 | zenzio | basically |
| 13:08.17 | olafski | yep |
| 13:08.19 | olafski | and does 60% more damage |
| 13:08.21 | olafski | instead of stunning |
| 13:08.46 | olafski | I just killed 2 mobs that were 3 levels below me with 1 revenge |
| 13:08.58 | zenzio | I'm particularly happy about the change since I've always been a Revenge-masher anyway |
| 13:09.11 | olafski | me too |
| 13:09.19 | olafski | I gave up my glyph of revenge last night though |
| 13:09.51 | zenzio | oh? |
| 13:10.02 | olafski | got to level 50 so I took glyph of devastate |
| 13:10.20 | olafski | not sure if it's better.. makes devastate do a bit more damage more quickly though |
| 13:10.22 | foxlit | teehee |
| 13:10.34 | foxlit | f=CreateFrame("Frame"); f:SetScript("OnUpdate", SummonRandomCritter) |
| 13:11.02 | olafski | summonrandomcritter summons a non combat pet? |
| 13:11.10 | zenzio | olafski: more damage? If I read the tooltip correct, Devastate is just one extra application of Sunder Armor... but there's another glyph that affects Devastate IIRC |
| 13:11.18 | foxlit | olafski: yes. |
| 13:11.34 | olafski | zenzio: devastate does damage based on how many stacks are up though |
| 13:11.48 | olafski | glyph of sunder armor also affects devastate |
| 13:12.13 | zenzio | olafski: ah, you mean in that aspect... I thought you mean that the glyph made it do more damage directly, not indirectly |
| 13:12.20 | zenzio | you're completely right then |
| 13:12.24 | foxlit | Also, <3 GetContainerItemQuestInfo |
| 13:12.36 | ZorbaTHut | worth pointing out that, as of 3.3.2 at least, glyph of devastate also double-applied the bonus Sunder threat |
| 13:12.55 | olafski | glyph of revenge might still give me more dps boost though I guess |
| 13:12.56 | zenzio | ZorbaTHut: really? That's interesting |
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| 13:13.09 | olafski | since I don't use heroic strike that much |
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| 13:13.16 | foxlit | Hm, the UI kit extracts 469 MB of art. Could've sworn it used to be quite small. |
| 13:13.16 | ZorbaTHut | in 3.3.2 devastate completely obsoleted Revenge. That might be different now. |
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| 13:13.30 | zenzio | Synergy, your latency will be the death of me |
| 13:13.31 | ZorbaTHut | (for raid tanking, at least) |
| 13:14.20 | olafski | yeah 60% extra threat on revenge (I assume it works like that) helps I guess |
| 13:14.40 | alestane | Armory talent display for characters appears borked. |
| 13:14.40 | olafski | ah, it doesn't work like that |
| 13:15.33 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't suprise me the day after a patch, a lot of people make changes, it must be overworked and stressed out. |
| 13:15.48 | olafski | hm revenge doesn't mention it does extra threat at all on the tooltip |
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| 13:17.17 | alestane | I've got a post here from a blood elf death knight named Lapetitemort. |
| 13:17.56 | alestane | That could have been more awesome only if it were a gnome. |
| 13:19.18 | zenzio | especially a Danish gnome |
| 13:19.20 | olafski | zorbathut: wowwiki says "No longer applies Sunder Armor threat." on devastate :< |
| 13:19.26 | zenzio | cause then it could have been Dklapetitmortdk |
| 13:19.28 | ZorbaTHut | aww :( |
| 13:19.32 | foxlit | gr. |
| 13:20.11 | foxlit | So I have this CHAT_MSG_LOOT handler that detects when you get handed new items |
| 13:20.24 | foxlit | I'd then like to know which inventory slot they landed in. |
| 13:21.32 | alestane | I think you'd have to scan for the itemID and UID from the link the chat message. |
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| 13:28.20 | olafski | whoo now I have warbringer too :P |
| 13:28.31 | foxlit | alestane: than iterate over all containers? |
| 13:29.44 | alestane | Basically, foxlit. |
| 13:29.54 | foxlit | Annoying |
| 13:30.21 | foxlit | Wonder if it's even in the containers by the time that event fires |
| 13:30.44 | alestane | It would be lovely if either BAG_UPDATE or CHAT_MSG_LOOT included the exact slot, but well, they were designed separately for specific purposes. |
| 13:31.38 | Fisker | alestane |
| 13:31.47 | Fisker | why so mvp? |
| 13:35.27 | foxlit | "alestane: I think you'd have to scan for the itemID and UID from the link the chat message." << too soon |
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| 13:35.33 | foxlit | They aren't in bags at CHAT_MSG_LOOT. |
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| 13:36.56 | Maldivia | foxlit: in reference to the 460mb of art - a good portion of that are maps, which now also includes dungeons etc |
| 13:38.03 | DWSR | Anyone that can recommend a tooltip addon that is NOT TipTac or CowTip |
| 13:38.04 | DWSR | ? |
| 13:38.41 | durcyn | DWSR: startip |
| 13:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | LitheTooltipDoctor. |
| 13:38.56 | Lopeppeppy | TinyTip |
| 13:39.02 | DWSR | Now you're just making that up Lopeppeppy. :P |
| 13:39.04 | Lopeppeppy | What's the one Seerah made...? |
| 13:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | I am not. |
| 13:39.14 | DWSR | I'm teasing, relax. :P |
| 13:39.34 | Lopeppeppy | TipTop is Seerahs. |
| 13:40.10 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: LTD is superceded by Tipsy. |
| 13:40.14 | DWSR | And Tipsy just reanchors the tooltip. |
| 13:40.16 | DWSR | I want....moar. |
| 13:40.22 | DWSR | inb4 that's what she said. |
| 13:40.28 | zenzio | You want moar? You can't handle moar! |
| 13:40.39 | Maldivia | hmm, I think I still one lying around based on the one from cosmos back in vanilla :P |
| 13:41.07 | Lopeppeppy | if you want more, go look 'em up yourself. |
| 13:41.34 | Fisker | what's wrong with tiptac anyway? |
| 13:41.43 | DWSR | Fisker: It's broken. |
| 13:41.49 | DWSR | Health bar display is broken thanks to the patch |
| 13:41.57 | DWSR | Also, I want....MOAR. |
| 13:43.42 | DWSR | WTB addons being default disabled. |
| 13:43.55 | DWSR | Dagmar |
| 13:45.53 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/when_youre_really_in_love_baco.php |
| 13:46.54 | Wobin | http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dc3asSdngzLs&start1=28&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBVrXHOmM56s&start2=13&authorName=texasjohnson |
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| 13:47.57 | DWSR | mikma: win |
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| 13:58.37 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-pictures-proud-parent-cat-kitten.jpg |
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| 14:02.34 | Fisker | zenzio |
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| 14:10.56 | DWSR | trade has dissolved into a flamewar about GS yet again. |
| 14:10.58 | DWSR | Wonderful. |
| 14:11.00 | mitch0 | fisker: have you played since patch? |
| 14:11.03 | DWSR | I plugged EG so hard. |
| 14:11.26 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:11.31 | zenzio | when is Trade *not* about flaming GS? |
| 14:11.41 | Elkano | hell, would you go Naxx for a weekly patchwork kill with someone with a GS < 5500? Thought so... |
| 14:11.51 | DWSR | Elkano: Yes. |
| 14:11.57 | DWSR | I'll take someone with a 3500 to a Naxx. |
| 14:12.22 | zenzio | I'd be skeptical about taking anyone who told me their GS anywhere |
| 14:12.30 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 14:12.57 | Elkano | "My gear is at the top-end!" - "So you suck yourself?" |
| 14:13.18 | Maldivia | "No, but I wish I could" ? |
| 14:13.53 | Wobin | "If I could, do you think I'd be online playing WoW?" |
| 14:14.25 | Elkano | ah, autofelatio referneces, right? and you can't? poor "you"s |
| 14:15.14 | ZorbaTHut | I've heard that an excellent way to deal with that is to lie blatantly |
| 14:15.19 | ZorbaTHut | why yes, my gear score is eighteen thousand. |
| 14:15.40 | ZorbaTHut | if they ask you to link an achievement, use one of the achievement fake programs to link an achievement that you completed in 2018 |
| 14:15.44 | ZorbaTHut | or, alternatively, in 1994 |
| 14:15.57 | ZorbaTHut | or just an achievement that you never completed. turns out many people don't look at the link. |
| 14:15.59 | Maldivia | just ask for their skill-score instead :) |
| 14:16.27 | Fisker | people are stupid |
| 14:16.50 | DWSR | I make up my gearscore. |
| 14:16.54 | DWSR | I always say it's like 6.5k |
| 14:16.57 | DWSR | And they always invite me. |
| 14:17.09 | Fisker | "omg blizzard you always say it is the cache and i've already removed it" (In response to the fact that rebuilding the cache can be straining on improperly configured or insufficient network equipment) |
| 14:17.21 | mitch0 | fisker: read stuff I write to you |
| 14:17.30 | Fisker | Then i told him he just removed the file he's trying to rebuild so he's continiously causing his own problem |
| 14:17.33 | DWSR | I made a healer set for my DK |
| 14:17.37 | Fisker | "But it only happens on patchdays" |
| 14:17.37 | DWSR | All spellpower plate. |
| 14:17.38 | Fisker | ........... |
| 14:17.45 | DWSR | Had like a 5.5k GS |
| 14:17.46 | Fisker | and i has mitch0 |
| 14:17.48 | DWSR | And got myself invited to raids. |
| 14:17.51 | DWSR | And just spammed /oom |
| 14:17.56 | mitch0 | fisker: any issues with bazooka? |
| 14:17.59 | zenzio | DWSR: win |
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| 14:25.45 | Fisker | none that i've seen mitch0 |
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| 14:35.40 | DWSR | Just won Reins of the Grand Black War Mammoth!! |
| 14:36.41 | Kraps | grats |
| 14:37.13 | Ackis | grats |
| 14:37.15 | Ackis | cheater |
| 14:37.20 | DWSR | lokl |
| 14:37.24 | DWSR | I was doing 9.5k DPS. |
| 14:37.27 | DWSR | Next nearest was 8k. |
| 14:37.29 | Fisker | s/won/ninja'd/ |
| 14:37.32 | DWSR | I call that sweet justice. |
| 14:37.41 | DWSR | Sweet sweet justice. |
| 14:38.22 | DWSR | Wow man. |
| 14:38.26 | DWSR | Soul Fire's overpowered. |
| 14:38.29 | Kraps | OS? |
| 14:38.30 | Ackis | ~seen kd3 |
| 14:38.31 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowuidev (8h 19m 5s) #wowwiki (8h 19m 5s), last said: 'whee! 91% size reduction. <3 presto'. |
| 14:38.40 | DWSR | Soul Fire did as much damage to Koralon as Shadow Bolt did. |
| 14:38.45 | Kraps | voa |
| 14:38.45 | DWSR | And Soul Fire's sub 35% only. |
| 14:38.53 | DWSR | Kraps: VoA War Mammoth |
| 14:39.28 | DWSR | It was like. |
| 14:39.29 | DWSR | PEW PEW PEW |
| 14:39.34 | DWSR | And I was like PEW PEW PEW |
| 14:39.38 | DWSR | And then I won a mammoth |
| 14:39.41 | DWSR | and now I'm on a mounth. |
| 14:39.48 | Kraps | whats the best RP server? |
| 14:39.49 | DWSR | s/mounth/mount/ |
| 14:40.22 | Wobin | I'm on a horse |
| 14:42.42 | Fisker | I'm on a horse, on a boat, on a plane |
| 14:43.07 | Kraps | guise |
| 14:43.20 | Fisker | HOLY SHIT AWESOME |
| 14:43.24 | Fisker | 5 gems in my transmute |
| 14:43.25 | Fisker | <3 |
| 14:44.14 | DWSR | nice :) |
| 14:45.05 | Fisker | haha |
| 14:45.20 | Fisker | In Just Cause 2 there's an island where your plane just blows up by nearing it |
| 14:45.28 | Fisker | If you land on the island you can find the hatch from lost |
| 14:45.31 | Fisker | that's awesome |
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| 14:46.08 | Fisker | server's active today |
| 14:46.44 | Fisker | Had just put all my gems up (a few purple, orange and red) after logging back from the transmute they were all sold :o |
| 14:49.50 | Kraps | lfd is better now y/n |
| 14:49.56 | DWSR | y |
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| 14:51.03 | Kraps | all i had time for yesterday was buying a new glyph for my shammy >.< |
| 14:52.19 | ZorbaTHut | what'd they change in lfd? 30 minute cooldown, greed-only orbs, no-delay kicks with kick messages, any other changes? |
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| 14:52.29 | DWSR | That's about it. :P |
| 14:53.06 | Kraps | no-delay kicks? not what i read on the forum |
| 14:53.18 | DWSR | Kraps: You can kick immediatey now. |
| 14:54.59 | Kraps | anyone can queue the group now right? |
| 14:55.03 | DWSR | yes |
| 14:55.25 | Kraps | most win |
| 14:55.32 | olafski | that seems like a very minor change |
| 14:55.34 | DWSR | did they remove the delay between kicks? |
| 14:55.35 | olafski | the rest is nice though |
| 14:55.36 | DWSR | olafski: Yeah, it is. |
| 14:56.01 | DWSR | Sigh |
| 14:56.06 | DWSR | I hate warrior tanks that refuse to give out Vigilance. |
| 14:56.20 | DWSR | He put it on the other fucking tank for the Toralon encounter. |
| 14:56.22 | DWSR | wtf? |
| 14:56.26 | DWSR | Toravon* |
| 14:56.40 | DWSR | Why wouldn't you give it to a 9.5k DPS warlock? Seriously. |
| 14:57.01 | olafski | did you get aggro? |
| 14:59.15 | Kraps | the taunt button is hard |
| 14:59.44 | DWSR | olafski: I got aggro, dumped, got aggro again |
| 14:59.51 | DWSR | We had BL + Meta. |
| 14:59.58 | DWSR | I literally hit him with 4 crit Soul Fires in a row. |
| 14:59.58 | olafski | hmmkay |
| 15:00.01 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, for some fights it can be very convenient to vigilance-swap if you have two warriors |
| 15:00.02 | DWSR | And he turned around. |
| 15:00.09 | DWSR | And it took him 3 FUCKING SWINGS to kill me. |
| 15:00.12 | ZorbaTHut | especially if threat isn't a real issue |
| 15:00.13 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, the other tank's a paladin |
| 15:00.17 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: And threat's a serious issue. |
| 15:00.21 | ZorbaTHut | if it's not two warriors then it's pretty much terrible. |
| 15:00.30 | DWSR | Pretty much |
| 15:01.33 | olafski | vigilance swapping does seem nice |
| 15:02.22 | Kraps | why? shouldnt tanks be on top of threat anyway? |
| 15:02.53 | olafski | 3% damage reduction |
| 15:03.05 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, vigilance-swapping means that you have basically unlimited taunts if it's a swap-heavy fight, and it also reduces damage taken |
| 15:03.12 | olafski | swapping vigilance would do quite little to over all threat |
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| 15:03.55 | Kraps | i keep forgetting about the taunt thing, and my main is a rot warrior :/ |
| 15:04.09 | olafski | :) |
| 15:04.19 | olafski | in 5mans, by the time I figure out who to put vigilance on it's over |
| 15:04.28 | Kraps | lol |
| 15:04.30 | olafski | I generally put it on the healer but they hardly produce any threat |
| 15:04.46 | DWSR | olafski: You should be putting it a high threat DPS like a hunter or lock |
| 15:04.48 | olafski | just nice that I can always taunt when they are attacked |
| 15:05.03 | Kraps | highest GS/DPS usually works |
| 15:05.29 | olafski | myeah.. I don't have a gearscore addon and I don't look at dps since my damage meters are hidden in combat :P |
| 15:06.05 | olafski | bleh I reduced the bitrate of my xvid compression from 1600 to 900 and the resulting file is pretty much the same size >_< |
| 15:06.17 | DWSR | Kraps: I can't believe you |
| 15:06.20 | DWSR | YOU BLASPHEMER |
| 15:06.33 | DWSR | DO NOT MENTION THOSE INITIALS EXCEPT TO CURSE THEM |
| 15:06.42 | olafski | mature.. |
| 15:07.36 | Kalroth | Gasp, immature people on the internet! |
| 15:07.39 | Kraps | hey, i'm not a GS whore, but i _am_ realistic |
| 15:08.22 | olafski | :) |
| 15:08.50 | Ackis | I'm a GS whore! My gamescore is like 40k now |
| 15:09.51 | DWSR | lol |
| 15:10.03 | olafski | mine's below 30k I think =( |
| 15:10.26 | olafski | I think that whoring site refused to take my profile off ackis |
| 15:10.37 | Ackis | I thought it did? |
| 15:10.41 | olafski | oh |
| 15:10.43 | olafski | they didn't reply |
| 15:10.47 | olafski | but apparently I'm not on there anymore |
| 15:10.52 | Ackis | aye |
| 15:10.59 | olafski | nice |
| 15:12.03 | olafski | ArtFull Olafski was absent yesterday... I was smelling something that reminded me of sweat... he better not be playing with a Nintendo Wii... burning calories while playing games is just wrong. |
| 15:12.05 | Ackis | olafski: 9XBX9-9RCD9-9BCK9-9PRTY-9RCKZ avatar item code |
| 15:12.11 | olafski | haha |
| 15:12.27 | olafski | oh my GS is barely over 20k I see |
| 15:12.34 | olafski | what item does it give? I added those two shirts |
| 15:13.00 | Ackis | two shirts? |
| 15:13.05 | Ackis | this ads a bbq grill prop |
| 15:13.14 | olafski | you linked a post that had two Bing shirts a few days ago |
| 15:13.28 | Ackis | ah male/female right? |
| 15:13.30 | olafski | yeh |
| 15:14.11 | olafski | cheers, added this one too :) |
| 15:14.16 | olafski | arrowmaster paid for the ezio outfit? oO |
| 15:14.39 | Ackis | there's a way to get something for metro 2033 too, but you need to register to get it |
| 15:14.45 | Ackis | http://www.thq.com/uk/gamenews/show/9998/5700/Metro%202033%E2%84%A2 |
| 15:15.23 | olafski | don't even know what metro 2033 is :S |
| 15:15.51 | Ackis | neat game IMO |
| 15:16.04 | Kraps | anyone have AC2 on pc? |
| 15:16.26 | Ackis | if by PC you mean XBox then I do |
| 15:16.43 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:17.43 | olafski | ah yes in that case, me too |
| 15:17.55 | Kraps | its a good game? |
| 15:18.00 | Kraps | yes |
| 15:18.06 | olafski | it is |
| 15:18.10 | olafski | dunno about the pc version |
| 15:18.15 | olafski | I didn't really like the first one on pc |
| 15:18.31 | Kraps | but i dont have $60 extra right now /gripe |
| 15:19.11 | DWSR | Why would you BUY it? |
| 15:19.25 | olafski | maybe he doesn't want to be a pirate |
| 15:20.12 | Kraps | since i found steam i've stopped pirating games |
| 15:20.20 | olafski | :) |
| 15:20.25 | olafski | I have maybe 5 games on steam =( |
| 15:20.36 | Ackis | has over 9000 |
| 15:20.37 | Ackis | :( |
| 15:20.43 | olafski | prefer standalone.. then again if I have a choice I'll get the 360 version anyway |
| 15:20.55 | olafski | the last pc game I bought was probably wotlk |
| 15:21.18 | olafski | I might get diablo 3 but not sure yet |
| 15:21.34 | ZorbaTHut | I have 177 or so, I think. I have way too much shit on steam. |
| 15:22.28 | Kraps | olafski: hope it has more variety than torchlight |
| 15:22.39 | olafski | I hope it has more variety than quake 3 too |
| 15:22.41 | Ackis | I'm close to 200 I think, I agree with you too much shit on steam :P |
| 15:22.47 | Ackis | ZorbaTHut: did you see my PM about QH? |
| 15:22.55 | ZorbaTHut | no, where was it? |
| 15:23.10 | Ackis | CurseForge site |
| 15:23.24 | olafski | hmm napoleon total war EH.. |
| 15:23.51 | olafski | and cloud support for save games sounds nice too.. go steam |
| 15:24.50 | olafski | I have 12 games listed on "my games" in steam.. more than I thought, but then most of them are pretty much the same game (half life 1) |
| 15:25.34 | Ackis | my steam ID is Ackis, feel free to add me |
| 15:26.53 | kneeki | Oh no! I'm 'one of those damned dps!' |
| 15:27.09 | kneeki | I was alt tabbed coding, didn't hear the LFG tool pop, missed my random dungeon |
| 15:27.38 | Kraps | welcome to the club |
| 15:27.49 | kneeki | -.- |
| 15:28.39 | Kraps | i use the nifty taskbar popup to check but i forget to sometimes |
| 15:32.38 | DWSR | hahaha |
| 15:32.42 | DWSR | You guys have to wait for your queues to pop. |
| 15:32.43 | DWSR | ahaha |
| 15:33.00 | kneeki | On my warlock yes |
| 15:33.05 | kneeki | On my 4 tanks, nope ;) |
| 15:33.46 | DWSR | oh lol |
| 15:33.50 | DWSR | I have pocket tanks for my warlock |
| 15:34.02 | kneeki | I do as well, but he's not on :( |
| 15:34.50 | Kraps | wonders wtf is wrong with DWSR |
| 15:34.59 | DWSR | ?\ |
| 15:35.34 | olafski | kraps: on his period? |
| 15:35.50 | olafski | arrogance period I mean |
| 15:35.57 | Kraps | oic |
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| 15:36.31 | Kraps | i mean w/e, i also have a tank toon |
| 15:36.33 | olafski | just don't take him too seriously.. that's what I've learned :) |
| 15:37.09 | Kraps | :p |
| 15:37.41 | olafski | I have only tank/healer toons =( |
| 15:37.49 | olafski | well I have some dps too but I don't like playing them |
| 15:37.58 | Kraps | i just dont want the responsibility of raid tanking so i made a shammy |
| 15:38.13 | olafski | ;) |
| 15:38.26 | olafski | my gf's guild has some russian-sounding guy tanking sometimes |
| 15:38.33 | olafski | he sounds like.. a true tank |
| 15:39.10 | olafski | slow, low voice and doesn't understand much.. "what? where you want I stand? show on map" |
| 15:39.31 | DWSR | rofl |
| 15:39.36 | Kraps | is he a warrior? |
| 15:39.40 | DWSR | You mean he sounds like the heavy from TF2? |
| 15:40.18 | olafski | yeah he's a warrior |
| 15:40.23 | olafski | and he sounds a bit like that yeah |
| 15:40.27 | Kraps | perfect |
| 15:40.30 | DWSR | lol |
| 15:40.38 | olafski | I can't stop laughing when I hear him (gf plays with speakers on) |
| 15:40.47 | DWSR | olafski: plz2record. |
| 15:40.49 | olafski | though I would be tearing my hair out if I was actually raiding with him |
| 15:41.11 | olafski | they have to tell him to taunt like 3 times sometimes |
| 15:41.18 | foxlit | http://twitter.com/wikileaks << drama? |
| 15:41.18 | olafski | "okay I taunt" |
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| 15:42.46 | olafski | lol |
| 15:42.55 | olafski | maintained by fox mulder I imagine |
| 15:44.29 | DWSR | Why the fuck is there a 10 limit on the mark->honor conversion items? |
| 15:44.51 | foxlit | <Mossuppet>Because... Shut up!</Mosspuppet> |
| 15:45.03 | foxlit | s/up/pup/ |
| 15:45.30 | DWSR | fail regex implementation, imo. |
| 15:45.40 | foxlit | meh, it works. |
| 15:45.42 | DWSR | Should have converted the up! to pup!. |
| 15:46.13 | Kraps | honor is still capped at 75k ya? |
| 15:46.19 | foxlit | Nah, that'd be inconvenient. |
| 15:46.23 | olafski | yes kraps |
| 15:46.25 | foxlit | Just don't make more than one error in a line and you're fine. |
| 15:46.37 | Kraps | fail |
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| 15:47.25 | Kraps | hey dude |
| 15:47.29 | alestane | Station |
| 15:47.43 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, bind one of them to an action button, sit there with the vendor window open right-clicking the "buy" and pushing the action button |
| 15:47.45 | ZorbaTHut | easiest way by far |
| 15:47.46 | Lunessa | station, be excellent to each other. |
| 15:49.22 | DWSR | the 1s cooldown is so unneccessary as well. |
| 15:49.46 | foxlit | In fact, the whole thing is unnecessary |
| 15:49.56 | foxlit | They could've just run some SQL to clean up those tokens during maintenance. |
| 15:51.54 | DWSR | yeah |
| 15:52.01 | Kraps | Shirik: ping |
| 15:52.12 | DWSR | What was the old quest worth for 1x each mark? |
| 15:52.13 | DWSR | 1.4k? |
| 15:52.28 | olafski | something like that |
| 15:52.31 | olafski | you can still do it I think |
| 15:53.02 | DWSR | anyone know if the conversion is the same when doing them 1 by 1 versus 1 of each? |
| 15:53.25 | foxlit | You get less if you exchange individual tokens |
| 15:53.29 | olafski | I think concerted efforts gives you more |
| 15:53.32 | olafski | yeh |
| 15:53.33 | Ackis | so my new PC I should get today: Asus P6T mobo, Intel i7 930 2.8GHz, 6gig DDR3 memory, 2x1.5TB 7200.11 Seagates, eVGA GTX285, and Antec 900 II Case... overkill for playing solitaire methinks |
| 15:53.42 | olafski | 5 BGs (right?) times about 150 honor = 750 |
| 15:53.52 | foxlit | 6 |
| 15:54.04 | DWSR | olafski: Yeah, but I have the marks already. |
| 15:54.09 | DWSR | I'm just converting them to straight honor.l |
| 15:54.10 | foxlit | AV AB WSG + EOTS + SOTA IOC |
| 15:54.18 | Fisker | remember you can turn in great honor if you got all 6 |
| 15:54.26 | Fisker | it gives like double the amount or something |
| 15:54.46 | Ackis | Fisker: r u jealous? |
| 15:54.52 | Fisker | i have better |
| 15:55.09 | olafski | dwsr: then why do you ask? |
| 15:55.21 | Ackis | lies Fisker! LIES |
| 15:55.28 | Fisker | i'll even get fermi on friday if it turns out to be good |
| 15:55.32 | olafski | foxlit: ah, 6 okay :) concerted efforts is still more |
| 15:58.44 | DWSR | Path of Frost while on a gryphon is OP |
| 16:00.32 | olafski | very useful too |
| 16:00.54 | Kraps | wait why? |
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| 16:01.34 | DWSR | SARCASM MOTHERFUCKER. DO YOU KNOW IT? |
| 16:01.55 | olafski | see kraps |
| 16:02.11 | Fisker | can anyone call emergency services for Ackis |
| 16:02.22 | Fisker | seems like he killed himself after he learned that my computer was already better than his |
| 16:02.23 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 16:02.32 | foxlit | There's an auction house in dalaran? |
| 16:02.38 | Ackis | your computer is not better than mine |
| 16:02.39 | Fisker | if you're an engineer |
| 16:02.42 | alestane | Only for engineers, I believe. |
| 16:02.46 | ZorbaTHut | well there isn't anymore, it doesn't work >:( |
| 16:02.48 | Fisker | if it Ackis |
| 16:02.54 | Fisker | the only better than mine is the i7 930 |
| 16:02.56 | Ackis | nope! |
| 16:02.59 | Fisker | if even that |
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| 16:03.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shadowed] by ChanServ |
| 16:03.03 | Fisker | since mine is OC'd anyway |
| 16:03.22 | Fisker | besides i'll just get a gulftown |
| 16:03.28 | foxlit | "Players are unable to access the auction house through Reginald Arcfire/Brassbolt Mechawrench in Dalaran. " << seems odd. |
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| 16:03.47 | foxlit | Ah, bots. |
| 16:04.24 | alestane | Anyone working on any of the add-ons having trouble since 3.3.3 with texture tiling? (Pitbull, iceHUD, XPerl, etc.) |
| 16:04.26 | ZorbaTHut | that's funny, I didn't realize there was a different bot for horde and alliance |
| 16:04.31 | DWSR | alestane: No. |
| 16:04.37 | DWSR | Why would you ever touch Xperl? |
| 16:04.37 | ZorbaTHut | I guess they're doing something cute with monster visibility |
| 16:05.28 | foxlit | I presume they can fix everything with some XML inheritance |
| 16:05.32 | Shadowed | alestane: Yea I've had some odd texture tiling issues |
| 16:05.34 | Kraps | how much is server transfer? |
| 16:05.36 | foxlit | But hey, XML is eeeeeevil. |
| 16:05.41 | olafski | 20 euro? |
| 16:05.54 | Shadowed | Bug I'm having is different from the et modified rect bug the other UFs are having thought |
| 16:06.11 | Kraps | olafski: THIS IS AMERICA |
| 16:06.16 | olafski | fine |
| 16:06.20 | olafski | $90 then |
| 16:06.27 | alestane | I'm not, but there are a number of addons, mostly unit frames and HUDs, that are having trouble since SetTexCoordsModifiesRect was removed, XPerl is one of them, and I'm trying to track down the fix. |
| 16:06.32 | olafski | $ being monopoly money |
| 16:06.43 | Kraps | lal |
| 16:06.44 | olafski | I had no noticable issues with SUF |
| 16:06.44 | Shadowed | Ah yea, don't have that specific of an issue |
| 16:06.55 | Fisker | Shadowed i guess that's the kinda blocky gradient on my bars then or what? |
| 16:06.57 | Shadowed | olafski it only happens if you make the frames really long, some textures aren't tiling |
| 16:06.59 | Shadowed | yea Fisker |
| 16:07.02 | olafski | ah |
| 16:07.06 | Fisker | i hate it |
| 16:07.07 | olafski | I don't generally do that ;) |
| 16:07.09 | Fisker | Who do i hate? |
| 16:07.11 | Shadowed | it's not responding to the tiling functions |
| 16:07.14 | Fisker | Blizzard or you Shadowed ? |
| 16:09.01 | Shadowed | probably Blizzard |
| 16:09.13 | Shadowed | but haven't looked into it in depth yet |
| 16:09.28 | alestane | Setting the tiling from Lua will probably require hiding and showing the texture, at a minimum, to get it to redraw. |
| 16:09.47 | alestane | Are you speaking as a user or an author, Shadowed? |
| 16:09.51 | Shadowed | author |
| 16:10.01 | Shadowed | lemme check that, moment |
| 16:10.23 | industrial | How do I do non-greedyness in lua patterns again? |
| 16:10.25 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:10.37 | industrial | .- ? |
| 16:10.39 | Fisker | so apparently Windows XP is the most secure OS of XP, Vista and 7 |
| 16:10.42 | alestane | Yes. |
| 16:10.48 | industrial | okay |
| 16:10.51 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12947126872&postId=129460123242&sid=1 <-lol'd |
| 16:11.26 | foxlit | "never had any problems, apart from overheated GPU cards and exploded HDDรขยยs" |
| 16:11.29 | foxlit | too awesome. |
| 16:12.26 | olafski | sounds like a pro talking! |
| 16:12.34 | olafski | winxp is definitely more secure than vista rite |
| 16:12.41 | DWSR | lol. |
| 16:13.35 | DWSR | Tried it, peered at it, shrugged, and removed it. It just looks fancy, but still has to many leaks in it. You could, but not wise since it aint patched that well yet. <--- wow |
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| 16:14.05 | industrial | getting infected is all behavioural. doesn't matter what version of windows. just dont be an idiot and click links etcetc (really, do we have to discuss this?) |
| 16:14.27 | olafski | he peered at it and decided it has leaks |
| 16:14.37 | olafski | did he see the actual holes in his desktop or something |
| 16:15.02 | durcyn | industrial: tbh that's becoming less and less true, with javascript exploits being served up through google, yahoo, and fox advertising |
| 16:15.11 | haste | OMG VISTA GIVES OUT CC INFORMATION BY JUST BEING ONG YOUR COMPUTER! |
| 16:15.17 | haste | *tinfoilhat* |
| 16:15.51 | DWSR | industrial: No, we're just lolling |
| 16:16.39 | industrial | I can't find the humour. I just get angry at their existance >:@ |
| 16:17.02 | DWSR | It's funny because it's stupid/. |
| 16:17.03 | olafski | Of course, the standard windows firewall does the same, but its windows.. <-- :D |
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| 16:23.48 | Arrowmaster | olafski: yes i bought that outfit, its not available anymore afaik |
| 16:24.01 | olafski | mkay |
| 16:24.06 | olafski | wish I had money to spend on such things :( |
| 16:24.21 | Fisker | industrial well sure |
| 16:24.23 | Arrowmaster | ive got like 3900 points right now on my account |
| 16:24.38 | Fisker | But if you really are stupid enough, Windows 7 will save your butt a lot more than Windows XP will |
| 16:25.18 | Fisker | haste |
| 16:25.20 | Fisker | i want the fermi |
| 16:25.45 | Kraps | UAC |
| 16:25.49 | Kraps | meh |
| 16:25.59 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 16:26.02 | Fisker | Antec sucks |
| 16:26.06 | Fisker | get the Corsair 800D |
| 16:27.12 | p3lim | Anyone else has issues with nameplate addons in 3.3.3? |
| 16:27.19 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 16:27.25 | Fisker | a little bit |
| 16:27.25 | foxlit | No nameplate addons, no issues. |
| 16:27.35 | Fisker | oh snap foxlit |
| 16:27.46 | Fisker | tazers foxlit in the butthole |
| 16:29.29 | Fisker | hurr |
| 16:29.37 | Fisker | someone asked for a cool offer for a gem |
| 16:29.40 | Fisker | and i wrote 1 copper |
| 16:29.45 | Fisker | then he was like "wat?" |
| 16:30.01 | Fisker | and i was like, well copper is the best metal out of gold, silver and copper to conduct heat |
| 16:30.02 | Fisker | >:3 |
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| 16:31.37 | Kraps | Fisker: so you're mad that he didnt get your highbrow trolling? |
| 16:31.40 | batrick | freenode has been acting up lately .. again |
| 16:32.24 | industrial | Fisker: You bring the lube. |
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| 16:38.43 | Lunessa | wants a nap or a fifth of vodka, either will do. |
| 16:39.51 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: SimpleBuffBars go poof :< |
| 16:40.01 | Shadowed | weird, worked fine for me |
| 16:40.06 | Shadowed | query me the error, I'll check after class |
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| 16:40.47 | Kraps | Shadowed: you a professor? |
| 16:40.57 | Shadowed | No, bored college student :P |
| 16:41.33 | Kraps | what degree are you after? |
| 16:41.49 | Shadowed | Computer Science, depending no how interesting it is |
| 16:46.13 | foxlit | Hey, since when are quests auto-accepted? |
| 16:46.48 | Fisker | i bring the pain industrial |
| 16:55.28 | haste | throws Fisker back into the water. |
| 16:56.32 | Fisker | i was found the last time |
| 16:56.35 | Fisker | and i will be found again |
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| 17:00.12 | Ackis | http://itmademyday.com/2010/03/24/funny-win-stories-ackis/ :P |
| 17:05.52 | Adys | anyone in charge of pitbull around? |
| 17:05.57 | Adys | pitbull4 that is |
| 17:07.44 | Shirik | how to know you're on a malicious site: |
| 17:08.08 | Shirik | You pause javascript because it won't let you do what you want, and all of a sudden the page is entirely unresponsiver |
| 17:10.00 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: two errors, actually: http://paste.wowace.com/1871/ |
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| 17:11.04 | Fisker | del buono |
| 17:11.07 | Fisker | i'm becoming insane |
| 17:14.39 | alestane | 'Until you are further notified, the only insult allowable in any context on the forums is "silly goose". The plurals "silly geese" and "silly gooses" are acceptable. The moderating staff are exempt, because life is perilously unfair.' |
| 17:14.55 | alestane | PA Staff == win. |
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| 17:20.43 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:26.29 | Fisker | http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/Gallery/170368,nvidia-gtx480-disassembly-guide.aspx/2 <-what an awesome geforce lego |
| 17:26.32 | Fisker | logo* |
| 17:26.50 | Fisker | The GeForce logo is stamped onto the radiator, which will help to dump additional heat load from the core. |
| 17:26.51 | Fisker | ;3 |
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| 17:27.54 | Kraps | "The fact that when someone joins a dungeon in progress it warps them to where the group is... however, this didn't seem to work so well in the Oculus Run... as we were all on drakes and the poor soul who got warped in immediately fell to his death." |
| 17:28.10 | Fisker | haha |
| 17:28.17 | Fisker | it's a wonder they didn't think of that |
| 17:28.56 | Lunessa | Holy crap. for the firs time in 5 years I qualify for a refund on my taxes. $5 US. WOOO! Imma get a cheeseburger! |
| 17:30.52 | Kraps | blizz misses so many little things |
| 17:31.09 | kneeki | Lunessa: I've owed the last 5 years in a row, with exception to this year... FINALLY got $ back |
| 17:32.02 | Lunessa | kneeki: I've paid large taxes every year since '91. Hell I owed taxes (large, large, large tax bills) in the year I went broke. |
| 17:32.04 | Fisker | eats Lunessa's cheeseburger |
| 17:32.05 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:32.16 | Lunessa | This is the first time I've actually be due a refund. |
| 17:32.17 | kneeki | wows |
| 17:32.24 | cbreak | how can you be owed taxes? prepaid taxes? |
| 17:32.31 | cbreak | or too many things to deduce? |
| 17:32.42 | alestane | deduct, in this case. |
| 17:33.02 | Fisker | alestane |
| 17:33.02 | alestane | Claim your great-aunt Matilda as a dependent, Lunessa? |
| 17:33.10 | Fisker | want to share a cheeseburger? |
| 17:33.13 | cbreak | Lunessa: if you're broke, maybe you can pay a negative ammount of taxes on property :) |
| 17:33.23 | cbreak | at least if they work with signed types |
| 17:33.32 | Lunessa | cbreak: Depending on what withholding papers you file with your employer a differing % is take off your income at the time of payment. Most people overpay. |
| 17:34.23 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: I'm not even sure how that error in sbb makes sense |
| 17:34.28 | Fisker | http://www.bbspot.com/Images/News_Features/2010/03/ipad-flowchart.pdf |
| 17:34.40 | cbreak | hmm... here taxes are paid after the fact (with exception of some special ones), salary deductions are for social security stuff |
| 17:34.57 | Lunessa | This why people get tax refunds. I usually file pretty accurately, but I'm in the category of most heavily taxed people (Federal Income tax), Single, No dependents, no property. |
| 17:35.26 | Lunessa | So I usually have to pay a bit more each year. |
| 17:36.03 | Gnarfoz | why this category of people should be the most heavily taxed one is beyond me |
| 17:38.17 | Lunessa | No deductions for children, homes, etc. |
| 17:38.51 | Lunessa | Our entire tax system is screwy, but I'll rant on that some other time. |
| 17:39.27 | Lunessa | I'm just happy not to have to pay more (I was even scrimping on things to make sure I had a cushion to pay taxes with, so I'm relieved). |
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| 17:40.58 | cbreak | we apparently have progressive tax here |
| 17:41.06 | cbreak | (on property) |
| 17:41.07 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: my point being: why would you get deductions for those, they put further strain on the social (haha what? :P) system |
| 17:41.20 | cbreak | so if you have over a certain sum, that property gets taxed more heavily than the one before |
| 17:41.27 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: Like I said, our tax system is screwy. |
| 17:41.32 | cbreak | ... unless you're a rich foreigner, then you can just get a flatrate |
| 17:41.39 | Gnarfoz | (it's not like it isn't the same here, too, but meh) |
| 17:42.18 | cbreak | Gnarfoz: children are needed to pay into pension/insurance for old people who get paid out |
| 17:42.36 | Gnarfoz | like that's going to work out for more than another 50 years |
| 17:42.36 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 17:42.40 | Lunessa | Tax policy isn't just about money. It's about punishment and reward for social behavior. Oddly, if you're married by have no kids, filing as a couple can be more expensive for people in upper income brackets. |
| 17:43.05 | Fisker | fffffffffffuuuuuuu- haste |
| 17:43.28 | Fisker | Fermi kommer jo nok til at ligge pรยฅ den forkerte side af 4k hvis man skal tro de leaks fra diverse retailers nu ;_; |
| 17:43.46 | Gnarfoz | fermilol |
| 17:43.55 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 17:44.02 | alestane | Someone thwack Fisker, he's gotten stuck set on Danish again. |
| 17:44.15 | Fisker | i'm talking in codes |
| 17:44.19 | Gnarfoz | ~lart fisker |
| 17:44.19 | purl | takes fisker to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 17:44.35 | Fisker | a retailer is reporting a $549 MSRP on GTX480 |
| 17:44.45 | Fisker | that's like 50% more of what ATi had, at launch |
| 17:44.48 | Fisker | for the HD5870 |
| 17:47.39 | haste | I'll wait, the initial releases of gfx card just make fan noise anyway |
| 17:51.42 | alestane | !api CreateTexture |
| 17:51.45 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'CreateTexture'. |
| 17:51.54 | alestane | !api frame:CreateTexture |
| 17:51.56 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'frame:CreateTexture'. |
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| 17:55.39 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Frame_CreateTexture |
| 18:03.19 | Gnarfoz | what was the name of the Widget method that got removed or changed with 3.3.3? |
| 18:07.17 | alestane | :SetTexCoordsModifiesRect was deleted. |
| 18:08.07 | Gnarfoz | yeah, snatched it from scrollback |
| 18:08.12 | Gnarfoz | thanks though |
| 18:08.18 | Gnarfoz | is that the same as the "tiling bug"? |
| 18:08.23 | Gnarfoz | (not sure what that even is) |
| 18:08.30 | Ackis | lol http://iamhilarious.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/clubbin-baby-seals.jpg Baby Seal Clubbin! (SFW and FUNNY) |
| 18:10.29 | Gnarfoz | !api buy |
| 18:10.29 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'buy'. |
| 18:10.32 | Gnarfoz | !api merchant |
| 18:10.32 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'merchant'. |
| 18:10.34 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 18:10.56 | haste | !api pairs |
| 18:10.57 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'pairs' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-pairs |
| 18:11.08 | haste | seems it only searches the lua api! |
| 18:12.01 | nevcairiel | !api castspell |
| 18:12.02 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'castspell'. |
| 18:12.04 | nevcairiel | eh |
| 18:12.06 | nevcairiel | it used to work |
| 18:12.21 | nevcairiel | !api UnitName |
| 18:12.21 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'UnitName'. |
| 18:12.29 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: ping? :) |
| 18:13.37 | haste | nevcairiel: probbly locked in #lua's mode :P |
| 18:13.45 | haste | > true |
| 18:13.50 | Kraps | wikipedia is down |
| 18:13.50 | haste | but not all of it! |
| 18:14.08 | nevcairiel | lua> ("lart haste "):rep(10) |
| 18:14.11 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: lart haste lart haste lart haste lart haste lart haste lart haste lart haste lart haste lart haste lart haste |
| 18:15.29 | Kraps | #wikipedia is under heavy trollage |
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| 18:16.01 | Lunessa | anyone in here who works on the wowhead looter addon? |
| 18:16.01 | Thunder_Child | oh, is that where fisker is off to |
| 18:16.19 | DWSR_ | ZorbaTHut: ping http://wowqu.com/questions/which-talent-should-i-take-with-dual-wield-dk-tanking <-- Take a look when you get the chance. |
| 18:16.26 | DWSR_ | Everyone else. http://wowqu.com/questions/which-talent-should-i-take-with-dual-wield-dk-tanking <--- Weigh in! |
| 18:17.28 | EthanCentaurai | Death Knights can tank? O_o |
| 18:17.36 | DWSR_ | EthanCentaurai: With two weapons, no less. |
| 18:17.59 | EthanCentaurai | I'll believe that when I see it |
| 18:18.06 | DWSR_ | Antiarc: ping. Can I post some shameless plugs to WoWQu or would you rather me not? |
| 18:18.16 | DWSR_ | EthanCentaurai: elitistarmory.com/US/Emerald Dream/Arelin |
| 18:18.21 | DWSR_ | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Emerald Dream/Arelin ** |
| 18:18.25 | DWSR_ | oh ffs. |
| 18:18.28 | DWSR_ | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Emerald%20Dream/Arelin ** |
| 18:18.43 | DWSR_ | I can tank ICC25 with that character. |
| 18:19.23 | EthanCentaurai | and you can heal as a rogue too :p |
| 18:21.08 | DWSR_ | What's wrong with bandage spec? |
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| 18:22.49 | Cide | I now get scam mails from Kay Scam |
| 18:22.55 | Cide | is this some kind of self-reference joke? |
| 18:23.02 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 18:24.48 | DWSR_ | rofl |
| 18:24.50 | DWSR_ | anyway, bbiab. |
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| 18:30.53 | DWSR | and back |
| 18:31.06 | DWSR | always wierd to see myself in the scrollback, but hey nw. |
| 18:31.06 | DWSR | now* |
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| 18:37.43 | Shirik | you know what, fuck C# |
| 18:37.51 | Shirik | who the hell designs a language where a char + a char = an int |
| 18:37.56 | Thunder_Child | ~calm Shirik |
| 18:37.57 | purl | ACTION sooths Shirik, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm Shirik down. |
| 18:38.03 | Shirik | so you have to write code like this: |
| 18:38.04 | Shirik | name[0] = (char)(name[0] + (char)((name[0] >= 'A' && name[0] <= 'Z') ? 'a' - 'A' : 0)); |
| 18:38.30 | zenzelezz | why are you using A-Z specifically? ANSI bastard |
| 18:38.47 | Shirik | they're C++ identifiers |
| 18:38.55 | Shirik | no need to worry about crazy characters |
| 18:39.12 | zenzelezz | aha |
| 18:41.34 | alestane | What if you change the 0 at the end to '(char) 0', Shirik? |
| 18:41.41 | Shirik | tried that first |
| 18:41.45 | Shirik | it still returns an int |
| 18:41.55 | Shirik | because apparently 'a' - 'A' returns an int |
| 18:43.18 | alestane | Can you do a typeof('a') ro something similar to confirm that it considers the literal a char, instead of an int that it's auto-demoting? |
| 18:43.34 | Cide | (char)( (int)name[0] + ('a' - 'A')) ? |
| 18:44.25 | Cide | oh |
| 18:44.28 | Cide | that's basically what you did |
| 18:44.31 | foxlit | Shirik: who the hell designs a language where a char + a char << overflow, you silly goose. |
| 18:44.37 | alestane | Shirik: I have this funny feeling they were trying to save people from overflow errors. |
| 18:44.37 | Shirik | so what |
| 18:44.43 | Shirik | int + int doesn't == long long |
| 18:44.46 | Kraps | fantasizes about wikipedia, twitter, google and facebook going down at the same time |
| 18:44.47 | foxlit | So it isn't c. |
| 18:45.28 | alestane | Now, I'll say that type consistency in expressions makes way more sense to me too. |
| 18:45.39 | tem | oh wow |
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| 18:45.46 | tem | I feel dumb for not realizing this until now |
| 18:45.56 | tem | The ICC Sigils actually have new icons |
| 18:46.24 | tem | (unlike the previous 12) |
| 18:46.57 | Gnarfoz | congrats for noticing |
| 18:47.10 | foxlit | "... time (relative to GetTime()) at which ..." |
| 18:47.27 | tem | in my defense, the ICC sigils are pretty terrible so I never really looked at them until now when I have excess frost emblems |
| 18:47.38 | foxlit | I don't think I phrased that right; it's actually absolute, but uses the same time scale as GetTime. Suggestions? |
| 18:48.54 | zenzelezz | "On March 16th, the United States Patent and Trademark Office issued a very broad patent on motion control in computing devices, one that seems to cover any smartphone that uses a built-in accelerometer" - they really need to stop granting blanket patents |
| 18:50.23 | Kraps | tem: pretty much all the ranged slot items/trinkets you can buy with frost badges are terrible |
| 18:50.51 | tem | nod |
| 18:51.12 | tem | looking at the dps sigil, it's _slightly_ more reliable than the t9 sigil |
| 18:51.20 | tem | with an upgrade of 23 strength |
| 18:51.22 | tem | but |
| 18:51.28 | tem | it takes 3 times as long to get up |
| 18:51.30 | tem | super! |
| 18:52.51 | Kraps | the frost totem has the same effect as the triumph totem, but has a ramp up time |
| 18:53.13 | Kraps | really strange |
| 18:53.36 | Kraps | the frost trinkets are on use |
| 18:53.40 | DWSR | Kraps: Are you sure that the effect isn't slightly better? |
| 18:53.42 | Kraps | wtf is that |
| 18:53.48 | DWSR | tem: That's what she said? |
| 18:54.04 | DWSR | tem: Also, the tanking frost sigil is better for T10 than T9 |
| 18:54.19 | tem | the tanking sigil is the same shit |
| 18:54.21 | tem | only worse |
| 18:54.27 | tem | the t9 sigil is 200 dodge |
| 18:54.45 | tem | the t10 sigil is 220 dodge |
| 18:54.49 | Kraps | DWSR: the same amount of haste i think |
| 18:54.50 | tem | but you have to stack it |
| 18:54.59 | tem | 5 times |
| 18:55.10 | tem | and it only stacks on rune strikes |
| 18:55.15 | tem | soooo |
| 18:55.28 | tem | you're looking at like ~30s to stack it |
| 18:55.53 | tem | and enjoy tank swap fights where your stack will constantly fall off |
| 18:56.32 | DWSR | lol |
| 18:56.35 | DWSR | Shows what you know about DK tanking. |
| 18:56.39 | DWSR | But I'm playing TF2 |
| 18:56.46 | tem | um |
| 18:57.00 | tem | DWSR, are you trying to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about? |
| 18:57.04 | tem | or am I misreading that? |
| 18:57.34 | DWSR | like I said, I'll talk you you in ab it |
| 19:03.48 | tem | With a boss swing time of 2.6 (2.0 pre-slow), and a combined dodge/parry chance of 30% in ICC: |
| 19:03.52 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50462 vs. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50462 , right? |
| 19:03.59 | DWSR | the T9 vs. T10 tanking sigils? |
| 19:04.06 | tem | lua> (1/2.6)*.3 |
| 19:04.06 | lua_bot | tem: 0.11538461538462 |
| 19:04.07 | DWSR | T10 vs. T9, whatever |
| 19:04.18 | tem | so, .115 rune strike procs per second |
| 19:04.21 | cog|work | hogs lua_bot |
| 19:04.25 | cog|work | hugs* |
| 19:04.26 | tem | lua> 5/(1/2.6)*.3 |
| 19:04.26 | lua_bot | tem: 3.9 |
| 19:04.34 | tem | lua> 5/((1/2.6)*.3) |
| 19:04.34 | lua_bot | tem: 43.333333333333 |
| 19:04.36 | zenzelezz | plz not to be hogging the bot |
| 19:04.40 | tem | 43 seconds to get 5 procs |
| 19:04.55 | DWSR | yeah, if you 2H tank. |
| 19:04.55 | cog|work | anyone want google voice invite? have 3... |
| 19:04.59 | DWSR | cog|work: me plz! |
| 19:05.00 | tem | oh christ |
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| 19:05.19 | tem | It doesn't change the math if you DW |
| 19:05.19 | DWSR | tem: I can easily get 5 rune strikes in under 10 seconds. |
| 19:05.22 | DWSR | Yes it does. |
| 19:05.24 | tem | you still get the same number of procs |
| 19:05.30 | DWSR | RS counts as 2x when you have ToT. |
| 19:05.40 | tem | so you get 2 stacks from a single proc |
| 19:05.44 | DWSR | yes. |
| 19:05.45 | tem | it doesn't matter anyway, though |
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| 19:05.55 | tem | PRO-MOTHERFUCKING-TIP: DW FROST TANKING IS NOT PROGRESSION TANKING VIABLE |
| 19:06.01 | tem | which is what I'm doing |
| 19:06.11 | tem | working on Sindragosa25h tonight, I think |
| 19:06.27 | DWSR | tem: dunno what the hell you're talking about. The only time I wouldn't DW tank on a prog raid *is* Sindragosa. |
| 19:06.34 | DWSR | Because of her stupid melee debuff. |
| 19:06.46 | tem | You lose EH from the weapons |
| 19:06.53 | tem | and you lose EH from VottW |
| 19:06.59 | tem | and you lose WotN |
| 19:07.04 | tem | which is HUGE on LK |
| 19:07.07 | tem | and festergut |
| 19:07.12 | tem | and saurfang |
| 19:07.15 | tem | and marrowgar |
| 19:07.20 | tem | and sindragosa |
| 19:07.40 | DWSR | tem: Yes, you have a lower health pool. Congratulations, you figured out something that's inherent in the spec. |
| 19:07.42 | tem | you also get a cooldown which is 100% useless against magic damage |
| 19:08.20 | tem | I'm pointing out what you lose by choosing frost over blood for progression tanking |
| 19:08.29 | tem | and VotW is part of that |
| 19:08.32 | DWSR | Yes. |
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| 19:08.37 | DWSR | You lose EH and gain avoidance. |
| 19:08.38 | tem | so I don't see what your point is |
| 19:08.43 | tem | giggles. |
| 19:08.57 | Adys | SHADOWED |
| 19:09.07 | Adys | or anyone familiar with git |
| 19:09.08 | tem | Please tell me how your avoidance is going to help you live through Frost Breaths or Soul Reapers |
| 19:09.17 | tem | (it won't.) |
| 19:09.29 | Adys | how do I see a diff between HEAD and files in staging? |
| 19:09.33 | augustl | are there any addons that use the new (ish) APIs that query the server for which quests you have and haven't completed? Fore t3h loremaster |
| 19:09.37 | augustl | Adys: git diff --staged |
| 19:09.41 | Adys | <3 |
| 19:09.42 | DWSR | Adys: git status |
| 19:09.42 | augustl | or --stage, don't remember |
| 19:09.47 | DWSR | Will help you |
| 19:09.52 | tem | I wish frost were better, because it's alwasy been my favorite spec |
| 19:09.56 | tem | but it's not worth it. |
| 19:10.00 | tem | blood is too much better |
| 19:10.04 | tem | (also dw is fucking lame) |
| 19:10.07 | Adys | was --staged |
| 19:10.11 | DWSR | tem: DW > 2H, sorry. |
| 19:10.14 | tem | give me back my damn 2 handed frost |
| 19:10.15 | DWSR | In looks and in spec. |
| 19:10.21 | tem | yuck |
| 19:10.44 | DWSR | If there were slow tanking 1hers, it would be that much better. |
| 19:10.50 | DWSR | But the paladins and warriors fucked us over there. |
| 19:11.08 | tem | pretty sure paladins don't care much |
| 19:11.20 | tem | it's warriors that cause tanking 1hs to be fast |
| 19:11.32 | DWSR | tem: Meh. You're arguing with blaming paladins for something? |
| 19:11.35 | augustl | anyone on quest tracking? |
| 19:11.49 | tem | also, with the rework of heroic strike in cataclysm, I think we'll see a change in tanking 1handers |
| 19:12.24 | DWSR | I hope for slow 1h tank weapons |
| 19:12.36 | DWSR | Perhaps in the Ruby Sanctum. |
| 19:12.45 | DWSR | which reminds me, has that loot table been announced yet? |
| 19:15.18 | Maldivia | hmm, are there any way to remove a gem from a socket? |
| 19:15.38 | Kraps | tem: i agree with DWSR, DW is always more interesting |
| 19:15.41 | augustl | Maldivia: only by replacing it with another gem |
| 19:15.49 | DWSR | Maldivia: No. |
| 19:15.59 | tem | Kraps, you're dead to me D: |
| 19:16.10 | DWSR | would be nice to add something like that to Jewelcrafting though |
| 19:16.14 | Kraps | :( |
| 19:16.16 | DWSR | Or blacksmithing |
| 19:16.34 | DWSR | Ruby Sanctum had better drop pure tanking expertise plate. |
| 19:16.39 | DWSR | Like...all tank plate all with expertise on itg |
| 19:16.40 | DWSR | it* |
| 19:16.54 | DWSR | And a slow 1H tank weapon from the final boss with a 100% chance to drop |
| 19:16.59 | Maldivia | well, have a minor issue (or well not me, someone in guild) - they have a JC gem in the blacksmith wrist socket, but have dropped blacksmithing |
| 19:17.38 | DWSR | Maldivia: Yes.and? |
| 19:17.53 | Maldivia | they don't benefit from the gem (since no longer have blacksmithing) but can't replace or remove, so are not allowed to put a JC gem elsewhere because of the unique-3 limit |
| 19:18.32 | foxlit | <nelson>ha ha</nelson> |
| 19:20.29 | DWSR | tem: BTW, what about IFP? |
| 19:20.34 | DWSR | and Frigid Dreadplate? |
| 19:20.54 | tem | improved frost presence will mostly counterweigh the EH loss of VotTW |
| 19:21.05 | tem | frigid dreadplate is basically not worth even mentioning imo |
| 19:21.14 | tem | the extra avoidance is just moot |
| 19:21.30 | tem | if there were a boss that rewarded higher avoidance, I'd give it some weight |
| 19:21.30 | DWSR | 3% miss? |
| 19:22.28 | Kraps | aoe's? |
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| 19:36.22 | Kaso | So they removed a function without any documentation in the patch notes? thats nice of them |
| 19:36.40 | Shadowed | why must you people reak stuff when I'm out |
| 19:37.09 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz: What error, you never told me it |
| 19:37.15 | Shadowed | oh wait yes you did |
| 19:37.22 | Shadowed | that's cause they removed a spellID as far as I know |
| 19:39.31 | Kraps | cata release, best guess: GO |
| 19:40.38 | foxlit | Soon. |
| 19:41.18 | Kraps | thats a fact, not a guess |
| 19:41.22 | DWSR | Armory go down? |
| 19:41.25 | DWSR | Or is that just me? |
| 19:42.57 | Kraps | DWSR went down |
| 19:46.38 | Kraps | Then who was phone? |
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| 20:06.21 | DWSR | Someone is arguing with me that Blood < Frost for 25H ICC raiding |
| 20:06.27 | DWSR | I went...lolreally? |
| 20:06.43 | DWSR | tanking* |
| 20:08.07 | Fisker | Unholy > Blood > Frost |
| 20:09.12 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:09.12 | DWSR | yes, I know UH has good deeps. |
| 20:09.13 | Fisker | i thought Frost was the premier tanking spec :P |
| 20:09.13 | DWSR | No. |
| 20:09.13 | DWSR | blood for the EH |
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| 20:13.26 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aEp1oDOI&feature=player_embedded << 4:40 |
| 20:13.38 | foxlit | Clearly magic. |
| 20:14.06 | Lunessa | Clearly. The button has pixie dust in it. |
| 20:14.26 | DWSR | yeah |
| 20:15.28 | DWSR | I call Shens. |
| 20:18.24 | industrial | foxlit: he scroll away really fast from what he has done and I still see the artifacts. |
| 20:18.27 | Shirik | I call anagas |
| 20:18.29 | Antiarc | DWSR: Not just yet - I'm still polishing it up |
| 20:18.37 | Antiarc | Once I have it polished, I'll start promoting it outside of IRC |
| 20:18.50 | industrial | scrolls* |
| 20:20.55 | dhyatt | just play what you want when tanking ICC. :) |
| 20:21.08 | Shirik | foxlit: whaaaat |
| 20:21.50 | foxlit | Shirik: magic. |
| 20:22.02 | foxlit | industrial: I don't know what you can see in 480p |
| 20:22.54 | Fisker | holy shit foxlit |
| 20:23.15 | Shirik | what Fisker said |
| 20:23.59 | industrial | foxlit: 1:32 to 1:37, he starts on the right but at 37 you can clearly (imho) see an artifact. |
| 20:24.17 | foxlit | I'm pointing you towards 4:40, though |
| 20:24.56 | Shirik | I've had the panorama problem myself before |
| 20:25.00 | Shirik | that is really nice |
| 20:26.12 | foxlit | It's quite incredible |
| 20:26.44 | foxlit | Stuff like the way the hill slopes off the right side of the image |
| 20:27.10 | foxlit | Pulled that pretty much out of nowhere |
| 20:32.44 | KarlKFI|work | yeah wtf. how did it decide to end the accending.... did it average the height of the line across the image and magically know it was a mountain and supposed to be avg height? |
| 20:34.38 | Lunessa | In one of their other videos on the same tech they say that they trying to match multiple pieces of the selection for inclusion in the area being replaced/added. |
| 20:37.46 | olafski | is it an extension of content aware resizing? |
| 20:39.07 | olafski | pretty neat |
| 20:40.39 | olafski | wow removing that tree is cool |
| 20:41.01 | KarlKFI|work | more magic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vbHRcrbdQ&feature=related |
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| 20:43.25 | Lunessa | Makes me think I should lobby my bosses for a new version of Photoshop - even though I don't actually need one. |
| 20:43.38 | olafski | wait for cs5 I guess :) |
| 20:43.46 | Shirik | oh I will get this Lunessa |
| 20:43.59 | Shirik | The fact that it can expand panoramas like that is reason enough |
| 20:44.09 | Shirik | I've hit that problem way too many times and been left with a substandard picture |
| 20:44.22 | Lunessa | Shirik: Most of what I use it for is cleaning up screen shots for tech documentation. |
| 20:44.33 | Shirik | admittedly, if I would just take the panorama shot better it wouldn't be a problem... |
| 20:45.03 | KarlKFI|work | usually i end up croppign to the inside of the viewable area, but that of course misses a lot sometimes |
| 20:45.36 | olafski | shirik: yeah that's really annoying.. only way I usually am able to fix it is just cropping |
| 20:45.48 | Shirik | exactly |
| 20:46.39 | Taroven | foxlit: Showed that to my graphic designer roommate. Think he's still trying to pick his jaw up off the floor. |
| 20:51.01 | olafski | haha I did the same |
| 20:51.12 | olafski | this will make a lot of those client from hell entries invalid though! :( |
| 20:51.39 | Taroven | Eep. |
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| 21:02.09 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/att-microcell - I'm trying to figure out how this is "better" for me than just using my home wifi network on my iPhone. |
| 21:02.46 | nevcairiel | cant phone through wifi |
| 21:03.27 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23767565325&sid=1 << Excessive whining? |
| 21:03.28 | nevcairiel | coverage must really suck in the US |
| 21:03.55 | Lunessa | I can Skype via wifi. And coverage doesn't suck entirely, it's just there's a LOT of territiory to cover. |
| 21:05.25 | nevcairiel | You can't call regular people with skype unless you pay extra for skype-out .. unless thats free in the US |
| 21:06.13 | Lunessa | Yeah, I suppose. But $150 for "perfect" reception in my home. *shrug* I used my iPhone more for data than voice anyway. |
| 21:06.41 | nevcairiel | i'm usually too lazy to turn on wifi on my phone when i get home |
| 21:06.51 | nevcairiel | have it off otherwise to conserve battery |
| 21:07.01 | nevcairiel | should get one of those apps that toggle stuff based on location .. i guess |
| 21:07.17 | zenzelezz | automatically? |
| 21:07.22 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 21:07.36 | zenzelezz | I'm not sure how running your GPS instead of your wifi would help |
| 21:07.37 | nevcairiel | turn off sound when i get to work, turn on wifi when i get home |
| 21:07.47 | foxlit | zenzelezz: could do it off cells |
| 21:07.54 | foxlit | Won't work on the iphone, though |
| 21:07.56 | nevcairiel | the cell tower provided location is accurate enough for those things |
| 21:08.26 | zenzelezz | hm, in that case it's not a bad idea |
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| 21:08.51 | nevcairiel | at work we have enough cell towers to be pretty accurate anyway |
| 21:09.02 | nevcairiel | just herer at home its really inaccurate :d |
| 21:09.33 | nevcairiel | goes to look for such an app |
| 21:24.16 | Seerah | umsinger1 |
| 21:24.26 | Seerah | mt |
| 21:25.26 | zenzelezz | and that's when Seerah got a new password |
| 21:25.45 | Seerah | but what is the pw FOR? ;) |
| 21:26.26 | Kraps | What does the scouter say about Revenge crits power level? ITS OVER 9000!!!!!!!! |
| 21:26.53 | nevcairiel | i bet they'll nerf revenge again, its really too nice to be true |
| 21:26.59 | Kraps | sometime 10k |
| 21:27.09 | Lunessa | Seerah: Kind of like having a key but not knowing what door it opens! So frustrating. |
| 21:27.09 | zenzelezz | I fear the sam |
| 21:27.10 | zenzelezz | +e |
| 21:27.52 | Kraps | but why!!! prot warriors never hurt anyone! |
| 21:28.59 | zenzelezz | why did they change Imp Revenge from stun to this anyway? Did they feel the stun was unbalanced in some situation? |
| 21:29.14 | nevcairiel | i think they rather wanted another half-aoe button |
| 21:29.41 | NeoTron | Seerah: at least it wasn't 'il0v3Qm' or something embarrasing like that |
| 21:29.42 | zenzelezz | granted I haven't raided in a year, I find that odd... we were doing all right |
| 21:29.52 | zenzelezz | still, I love the change |
| 21:30.07 | nevcairiel | well it went from like 20% dmg bonus to 60% on the talent |
| 21:30.16 | nevcairiel | which really is the great part :d |
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| 21:30.21 | Seerah | NeoTron: or BieberF4N |
| 21:37.01 | Lunessa | Or worse: Tw1l1ght4ever |
| 21:37.11 | NeoTron | so did you see the "bush wipes hand on clinton" video? |
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| 21:44.07 | Kraps | <zenzelezz>granted I haven't raided in a year, I find that odd... *we were doing all right* |
| 21:44.13 | Kraps | WHAT |
| 21:44.15 | Kraps | THE |
| 21:44.17 | Kraps | HELL |
| 21:44.20 | Kraps | DUDE |
| 21:45.24 | zenzelezz | which part? |
| 21:46.00 | Kraps | bold |
| 21:47.24 | zenzelezz | I strip bold/underline/colour on IRC |
| 21:47.48 | zenzelezz | I guess you feel warriors weren't good enough |
| 21:47.51 | nevcairiel | be probably meant the * .. * part that he used to emulate bold |
| 21:48.40 | Kraps | they arent |
| 21:49.08 | Kraps | compared to dk/pally |
| 21:49.49 | zenzelezz | in what way? Are we having problems, or are we simply not the best? |
| 21:51.17 | DWSR_ | Kraps: Tanks are all relatively balanced. |
| 21:51.24 | DWSR_ | Kraps: If anything, DKs need a buff to deal with CotT. |
| 21:51.53 | Kraps | CotT? |
| 21:52.30 | DWSR_ | Chill of the Throne |
| 21:53.38 | DWSR_ | Kraps: Zorba was talking about (and I believe him, since he seems to know the math better than I do) how CotT hurts DKs a lot more than it hurts anyone else. |
| 21:54.03 | DWSR_ | And, anecdotally, I believe him |
| 21:54.28 | DWSR_ | My 'tank-fu' seems to be significantly worse than most. |
| 21:56.09 | ZorbaTHut | yeah it basically hurts DKs the most because they have the most avoidance in the first place |
| 21:57.46 | DWSR_ | Yeah, I can believe that. Definitely feels that way |
| 21:58.01 | DWSR_ | ZorbaTHut: I had someone talking to me about how Frost is comparable to Blood for tanking 25H ICC |
| 22:01.21 | DWSR_ | ZorbaTHut: My response was "lol come off it" |
| 22:01.24 | ZorbaTHut | also, last I checked, warriors were actually pretty low on threat, and paladins had some truly fantastic fuckup survivability that no other tank could really match |
| 22:01.35 | ZorbaTHut | I couldn't say much about individual specs, I don't know the details of DK tanking well |
| 22:02.02 | Fisker | A tweet by EA's Jeff Green relates his own experience with problems with the DRM in EA's own Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight are severe enough that he thinks something needs to change: |
| 22:02.02 | Fisker | Booted twice--and progress lost--on my single-player C&C4 game because my DSL connection blinked. DRM fail. We need new solutions. |
| 22:02.32 | foxlit | win. Or lose. Or something. |
| 22:02.39 | Fisker | s/a tweet/a tweet, several days after being fucking boo'd out, by/ |
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| 22:10.21 | foxlit | Fisker: link, though |
| 22:10.32 | foxlit | ah, there |
| 22:16.08 | Taroven | Antiarc: Ping |
| 22:16.13 | Antiarc | Taroven: pong |
| 22:16.44 | Taroven | Any way in SexyMap to change the scale of the hudmap? It overlaps my unitframes. |
| 22:17.02 | DWSR_ | Antiarc: You going to fix [code] @ WoWQU? |
| 22:17.08 | zenzelezz | "Fewer than two weeks after [...]" - anyone else find this to be a rather peculiar way to put it? |
| 22:17.34 | Taroven | zenzelezz: Yep. |
| 22:17.37 | DWSR_ | zenzelezz: Odd, but not incorrect. |
| 22:18.04 | zenzelezz | DWSR_: yeah, it sounds valid... just very odd |
| 22:18.35 | Antiarc | Taroven: The options should let you fix it |
| 22:18.35 | DWSR_ | zenzelezz: Pretty much |
| 22:18.39 | DWSR_ | English is a fun language like that. |
| 22:18.40 | sylvanaar | i like the CC iconic liscensces |
| 22:18.47 | Antiarc | DWSR: Eventually, it's going to be a pain in the ass with the bbcode parser I have |
| 22:18.52 | sylvanaar | i never noticed them before |
| 22:19.00 | Antiarc | It's low priority |
| 22:19.11 | zenzelezz | sylvanaar: what are those; and how come? |
| 22:19.33 | sylvanaar | all the cc liscensces have icons |
| 22:19.42 | sylvanaar | http://creativecommons.org/choose/cc-gpl |
| 22:19.46 | Taroven | Antiarc: The scale option only affects the blips, no effect on the ring. |
| 22:20.19 | sylvanaar | http://creativecommons.org/choose/ |
| 22:20.31 | Taroven | Also, I don't suppose there's any way to adjust the opacity of the blips without using a custom blip set or something similar? |
| 22:22.01 | Aqua | what do you do when two computers pick up the same rf output from one wireless keyboard? |
| 22:22.20 | kd3 | it's a method to multibox, that |
| 22:22.29 | Kraps | i have 231 EoT |
| 22:22.43 | zenzelezz | sylvanaar: interesting |
| 22:22.55 | Aqua | ya... but, try this one... my mom's pc is sending mine input and mine is sending her's input so its causing like interesitng issues |
| 22:23.03 | sylvanaar | zenzelezz: heres a bettter example page http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses |
| 22:24.53 | Antiarc | Taroven: No; I don't control the blips |
| 22:25.02 | sylvanaar | i like how simple the icons make it |
| 22:25.06 | Antiarc | hudmap is a giant hack :P |
| 22:25.24 | Taroven | Antiarc: Heh, yeah. |
| 22:25.30 | Lunessa | A useful, interesting, and thought-provoking hack, but ... yeah. |
| 22:25.30 | Taroven | Not too worried about the blips. |
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| 22:25.59 | Taroven | I'd still love the ability to shrink the ring hudmap makes though. |
| 22:26.08 | DWSR_ | ZorbaTHut: I think warrior threat might be a *bit* low, but it's not so bad. |
| 22:26.26 | DWSR_ | ZorbaTHut: And in regards to Paladins, I think that's a case of them needing a nerf more than everyone need a buff. |
| 22:26.31 | DWSR_ | s/need a/needing a/ |
| 22:27.33 | Lunessa | "... faster than ret paladins can storm the forums after a nerf." - Blizzard CEO at BlizzCon 2009 |
| 22:27.55 | DWSR_ | Lunessa: Sad but true. |
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| 22:28.29 | Lunessa | Frankly, if Paladins are the best at everything they do, they bitch and whine. But this is a trait shared by all players, regardless of class. |
| 22:29.32 | DWSR_ | Lunessa: All? |
| 22:29.45 | Lunessa | ALL. I'll stand by that. |
| 22:29.48 | DWSR_ | I would say that's a bit of an overstatement. |
| 22:29.56 | DWSR_ | I'm quite happy with my DK and my warlock |
| 22:30.15 | DWSR_ | caveat: I don't think they're perfect. I'm just happy with them. |
| 22:30.30 | DWSR_ | So, assertion failed.\ |
| 22:30.34 | Lunessa | DKs are an interesting case being grossly overpowered and good at both their riles. |
| 22:30.38 | Lunessa | roles. |
| 22:30.52 | DWSR_ | They're not grossly overpowered. |
| 22:31.04 | DWSR_ | Especially not in tanking. |
| 22:31.17 | DWSR_ | nevcairiel: Google Voice is not available in my country? |
| 22:31.38 | DWSR_ | Lunessa: They're not grossly overpowered in DPS either, which isn't to say that they're not competetive. |
| 22:32.25 | Lunessa | We'll just have to disagree; I play an enhancement shaman. Nothing about me is 'competitive' |
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| 22:32.47 | DWSR_ | O_O |
| 22:33.06 | DWSR_ | This is about DKs, not about enhancement shamans. |
| 22:33.09 | airtonix | Lunessa, not when you drug all the competitors the night before, no of course not. |
| 22:33.39 | Lunessa | Though with Unleashed Rage change, I might be considered a much more important part of raid groups. |
| 22:33.40 | Taroven | Antiarc: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1999297/WoWScrnShot_032410_183139.jpg - That's what I mean about adjusting the ring size, btw. No biggie, I'd just love to either wrap it completely around the frames or shrink it so there's no overlap. |
| 22:33.53 | DWSR_ | I think Enhancement shamans need a desperate PvE buff, and a serious PvP nerf. |
| 22:33.58 | Antiarc | Makes sense |
| 22:34.12 | airtonix | Taroven, someone on wowinterface recently created something called the ringthing |
| 22:34.36 | airtonix | Taroven, what unitframes are those ? |
| 22:35.01 | Taroven | airtonix: Not what I'm looking for. The UFs are my own... sec, digging up link |
| 22:35.09 | airtonix | Taroven, not ouf ? |
| 22:35.19 | Taroven | airtonix: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15415-oUF_Taroven.html |
| 22:35.24 | airtonix | thought so |
| 22:35.28 | Taroven | =P |
| 22:35.40 | airtonix | <3 ouf |
| 22:35.43 | Taroven | Yep. |
| 22:35.59 | airtonix | its like having blackbox in wow |
| 22:36.00 | Taroven | Got a nifty aggro/dispel glow system and some semi-unique raid stuffs. |
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| 22:36.27 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, yeah, that's quite true, paladins kind of blow past everyone in threat right now |
| 22:36.45 | Taroven | Funny thing is, the layout started as a pvp project. It just kinda evolved to be something pretty awesome for anything ya wanna do. |
| 22:36.51 | Taroven | *shrug* |
| 22:36.57 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect they're not going to do more than patch the most egregious balance issues from here - it would seem kind of silly to burn the manpower on it with Cataclysm basically around the corner |
| 22:37.25 | DWSR_ | ZorbaTHut: Properly played paladins, sure. |
| 22:37.33 | DWSR_ | ZorbaTHut: I rip threat from poorly played prot pallies all day in my spec. |
| 22:37.43 | Taroven | ZorbaTHut: True story, had a pally just last night with aggro trouble |
| 22:38.01 | Taroven | No fault of the deeps, we were giving him 5-6 seconds before doing anything at all. |
| 22:38.22 | ZorbaTHut | well yes but you can find bad players of any class |
| 22:38.27 | Taroven | Yep. |
| 22:38.31 | ZorbaTHut | there are mages who can't get out of fire fast enough |
| 22:39.03 | Lunessa | DWSR_: Really PVP nerf for enhancement shaman? |
| 22:39.15 | ZorbaTHut | I'm trying to think of a hilarious hunter burn here but I'm failing :( |
| 22:39.15 | DWSR_ | Lunessa: More specifically, nerf wolves. |
| 22:39.35 | Lunessa | Really? a 3min cooldown need a nerf? |
| 22:39.37 | DWSR_ | Yes. |
| 22:39.52 | Lunessa | is shocked. |
| 22:40.21 | DWSR_ | Make the wolves more vulnerable, make them slower, remove the run speed buff. |
| 22:40.25 | DWSR_ | Any one of these will do. |
| 22:40.33 | Lunessa | Taroven: hrm.... that looks pretty nice. Nice enough that I might try it over SUF. |
| 22:40.52 | Legorol | anyone here has some experience as a DK frost tank? |
| 22:40.57 | Lunessa | DWSR_: The run speed buff shares a cooldown with PVP trinket. :( |
| 22:41.05 | Legorol | mediocre experience is sufficient, i gots a question: |
| 22:41.07 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Yes. |
| 22:41.08 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/470644948 |
| 22:41.13 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Frost 2H and DW. |
| 22:41.16 | DWSR_ | Pick your poison. |
| 22:41.17 | Legorol | what is your preferred opening rotation on trash |
| 22:41.17 | Taroven | Lunessa: Give it a shot. It's self contained anyway, only one directory to delete if you don't like it. |
| 22:41.24 | Legorol | let me try and describe my problem |
| 22:41.45 | Legorol | i find that to generate the most long-term sustained threat, i should open with DND, IT, PS, Pe |
| 22:41.53 | Legorol | but that doesn't let me use HB until 10 seconds after the pull |
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| 22:41.59 | DWSR_ | Don't bother. |
| 22:42.12 | Legorol | if i put in HB earlier, it frontloads a lot of threat, but... i don't have sustained aoe threat |
| 22:42.12 | DWSR_ | If you're in an AoE trash pack situation, open with DnD, HB, BB. |
| 22:42.23 | DWSR_ | It'll all be dead before it's an issue. |
| 22:42.28 | Legorol | that's in heroics |
| 22:42.29 | DWSR_ | Seriously. |
| 22:42.32 | Lunessa | Taroven: It is pretty. And I'm fond of oUF, just too lazy to set stuff up that doesn't have in-game options settings (normally) |
| 22:42.33 | Legorol | in raids, trash packs stay alive for long |
| 22:42.38 | DWSR_ | No, I do that in ICC trash as well. |
| 22:42.43 | DWSR_ | I tab Ob a lot though |
| 22:42.44 | DWSR_ | And I'm DW. |
| 22:42.47 | Legorol | ok |
| 22:42.55 | DWSR_ | Armory? |
| 22:43.03 | Legorol | so you found that with dw frost on trash, dnd/hb/bb works fine as opener? |
| 22:43.05 | Taroven | Lunessa: Hehe. Well, I give plenty of locals. Shouldn't be too bad to tweak to your liking. |
| 22:43.11 | Legorol | let's assume the trash stays alive for 30 seconds |
| 22:43.19 | Legorol | how does your 2nd and 3rd cycle look typically? |
| 22:43.36 | Legorol | oh and i don't have HB glyph, so that might make a difference |
| 22:43.42 | Lunessa | :D |
| 22:43.42 | DWSR_ | Yes, that makes a huge difference. |
| 22:43.44 | Legorol | this makes opening with HB/BB weaker for me |
| 22:43.45 | DWSR_ | You should have it. |
| 22:43.47 | Legorol | lot weaker |
| 22:43.59 | Legorol | HB glyph is weak on boss though |
| 22:44.04 | Legorol | so i have RS, OB and FS glyphs |
| 22:44.18 | DWSR_ | Drop FS for HB. |
| 22:44.31 | Legorol | but is it wise to glyph for trash? |
| 22:44.44 | Legorol | surely FS glyph > HB glyph for boss |
| 22:44.44 | DWSR_ | You shouldn't be having RP problems in a raid. |
| 22:44.58 | DWSR_ | Do you have SoB or CotG? |
| 22:45.05 | Legorol | 2/3 sob, 2/2 cotg |
| 22:45.30 | DWSR_ | You shouldn't be having RP problems. |
| 22:45.31 | Legorol | i feel i have to correct you on one thing: being in a raid doesn't suddenly dramatically increase your rp-gen |
| 22:45.36 | Legorol | not like warrior or druid |
| 22:45.49 | Legorol | our rp gen is predictable for the most part |
| 22:45.50 | DWSR_ | Legorol: It does if you have SoB. |
| 22:46.01 | Legorol | and doesn't scale with damage you take |
| 22:46.27 | DWSR_ | Legorol: From experience, I have a full RP bar at almost all times on a boss in ICC. |
| 22:46.35 | Legorol | strange, i don't |
| 22:46.41 | Legorol | it gets drained with RS very quickly |
| 22:46.45 | DWSR_ | I have RS macroed into everything. |
| 22:46.49 | Legorol | same |
| 22:46.50 | DWSR_ | Armory? |
| 22:46.57 | Legorol | sec |
| 22:47.04 | Legorol | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Silvermoon&cn=Valrieca |
| 22:47.27 | DWSR_ | I have encountered an error. |
| 22:47.38 | Legorol | specify |
| 22:48.02 | Legorol | i find that i don't sit on 100 rp |
| 22:48.03 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Armory gave me a 500. |
| 22:48.14 | Legorol | i drain it through RS, and i have plenty GCD-s for FS |
| 22:48.17 | Legorol | so that drains it too |
| 22:48.26 | Legorol | strange, working for me, can you try again? |
| 22:48.38 | Legorol | but ok, let's say i get HB glyph |
| 22:48.48 | Legorol | the opener of dnd, hb, bb gets lot stronger ofc |
| 22:48.52 | Legorol | after that how do you proceed |
| 22:49.17 | Antiarc | Fisker: Heehee, you're using my site :D |
| 22:50.09 | Legorol | here are a few specific situations that i'm stuck on: someone mispulls and we get a second pack, i have runes on cooldown and no ERW. |
| 22:50.24 | Legorol | by the time runes are back up, mobs ar ehitting people, so i have to toss out an HB |
| 22:50.34 | Legorol | that gets most of them back on me, which is fine, but they don't end up sticking |
| 22:50.38 | DWSR_ | Legorol: It's working fine now. |
| 22:51.03 | DWSR_ | Alright. |
| 22:51.05 | Legorol | a second puzzle is continuous waves. what sort of rhythm would you say you end up with? |
| 22:51.32 | Legorol | example would be presindragosa trash (spider room), if you know that one |
| 22:51.54 | DWSR_ | I'm thinking in terms of the Marrowgar Trash. |
| 22:52.01 | Legorol | ok |
| 22:52.03 | DWSR_ | For the first example anyway. |
| 22:52.06 | Legorol | go for it :) |
| 22:52.12 | Legorol | someone always bodypulls ^^ |
| 22:52.15 | DWSR_ | Yep. |
| 22:52.25 | DWSR_ | I don't normally burn ERW. |
| 22:52.27 | Legorol | muppets who can't hug wall >.< |
| 22:52.38 | DWSR_ | So I would suggest that you save it for those situations, since that's what I do. |
| 22:52.45 | DWSR_ | It's an oshit for when someone goes oshit. |
| 22:52.46 | Legorol | that's a fair point |
| 22:52.53 | DWSR_ | I don't use it to bump my threat for trash. |
| 22:52.55 | Legorol | so let's say you can hit ERW, then what? |
| 22:53.09 | DWSR_ | Move towards them while casting HB, BB, BB. |
| 22:53.13 | DWSR_ | Usually keeps them on me. |
| 22:53.15 | Legorol | (btw, i appreciate your help, and the reason why i'm asking all this is because i've just started trying frost tanking, with no experience) |
| 22:53.23 | Legorol | ok |
| 22:53.24 | DWSR_ | Yeah, it's alright. |
| 22:53.29 | Legorol | then the last FU pair, i guess OB |
| 22:53.45 | DWSR_ | Yeah. |
| 22:53.58 | Legorol | would you say it's worth trying to save KM for HB, and not using FS until runes are back for HB? |
| 22:54.02 | DWSR_ | No. |
| 22:54.13 | DWSR_ | well.. |
| 22:54.15 | DWSR_ | I don't know. |
| 22:54.18 | DWSR_ | I don't personally do it. |
| 22:54.19 | Legorol | :) |
| 22:54.22 | Legorol | ok |
| 22:54.23 | DWSR_ | Since I tab spam so much |
| 22:54.34 | DWSR_ | Maybe it's worth it, but I find that I'm alright without it. |
| 22:54.45 | Legorol | so glyphed HB + 2xBB is strong enough |
| 22:54.52 | DWSR_ | Usually. |
| 22:54.53 | Legorol | ok, let's say you picked up that mispulled pack |
| 22:55.00 | Legorol | what do you settle into |
| 22:55.06 | DWSR_ | There's no settling. |
| 22:55.07 | Legorol | just keep up with HB, 2xBB, 1xOB? |
| 22:55.19 | DWSR_ | It's tab-spamming Obliterating Blood Boiling mayhem. |
| 22:55.27 | Legorol | well yah |
| 22:55.29 | DWSR_ | With HB staying on cooldown |
| 22:55.31 | Legorol | and at least 1 HB per 10 seconds |
| 22:55.37 | Legorol | more if rime i guess |
| 22:55.39 | DWSR_ | So yeah. |
| 22:55.44 | DWSR_ | HB, BB, Ob. |
| 22:55.49 | Legorol | ok |
| 22:55.56 | Legorol | i can ofc always just carry both glyphs |
| 22:55.58 | DWSR_ | I don't use a 2 disease rotation on trash |
| 22:56.00 | DWSR_ | Yep. |
| 22:56.06 | Legorol | bit fiddly :S |
| 22:56.21 | DWSR_ | If people pull off a single mob, I taunt-shuffle them back. |
| 22:56.26 | DWSR_ | If it's a melee, they'll live. |
| 22:56.31 | DWSR_ | If not, well they're just DPS. |
| 22:56.32 | Legorol | tauntshuffle? |
| 22:56.35 | DWSR_ | Yeah. |
| 22:56.46 | Legorol | is that a technical term i don't know of :) |
| 22:56.58 | DWSR_ | When someone's at range, I wait until the mob waltzs all the way over to them (or to max taunt range) and then taunting back |
| 22:57.07 | Legorol | right |
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| 22:57.23 | DWSR_ | Maximizes the amount of time that your taunt's keeping the mob off of the DPS for. |
| 22:57.41 | DWSR_ | taunt-shuffle. |
| 22:57.42 | DWSR_ | Anyway. |
| 22:57.45 | DWSR_ | Yeah. |
| 22:57.50 | Legorol | ok |
| 22:57.57 | Legorol | have you ever tried no HB glyph on trash? |
| 22:58.00 | DWSR_ | Nope. |
| 22:58.06 | DWSR_ | Must be painful. ;) |
| 22:58.09 | Legorol | let's say i'm stupid/stubborn/muppet and don't take HB glyph |
| 22:58.11 | Legorol | ah ok |
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| 22:58.32 | Legorol | well, i'm used to tanking trash as blood ^^ |
| 22:58.34 | DWSR_ | HB glyph condenses an IT/Pes or HB/Pes. |
| 22:58.40 | Legorol | i picked up frost and i got worse >.< |
| 22:58.52 | DWSR_ | Meh, chain pull heroics. You'll get good quickly. :) |
| 22:59.10 | Legorol | of course, practice helps :) |
| 22:59.18 | Legorol | i just wanted to cut down the learning curve by asking specific experiences |
| 22:59.24 | DWSR_ | If you don't want to deal with glyph swapping all the time, replace GoRS with GoHB. |
| 22:59.31 | Legorol | one thing i find that with all the guides out there, ofc they mention "rotations" and priorities, |
| 22:59.38 | DWSR_ | Bleh. |
| 22:59.42 | Legorol | but practicaly situations are never like the theoretical situation |
| 22:59.46 | DWSR_ | mhm. |
| 22:59.56 | Legorol | and adapting to that is experience, i wish some guides wrote handy tips |
| 23:00.04 | DWSR_ | Generally: 1 disease tab-spam for trash, 2 disease rotation for the boss. |
| 23:00.11 | Legorol | i'll most definitely not get rid of GoRS |
| 23:00.17 | Legorol | single highest threat glyph for DK |
| 23:00.27 | DWSR_ | btw, you should tweak your spec. |
| 23:00.35 | Legorol | let's hear it :) i put a lot of thought into it |
| 23:00.40 | DWSR_ | You did. |
| 23:00.48 | DWSR_ | It's almost as good as not taking IIT. |
| 23:00.52 | Legorol | mostly going from Gravity's analysis of which threat is what point |
| 23:01.03 | Legorol | well, the latest fab as of this morning is going IIT |
| 23:01.06 | Legorol | so i definitely want that |
| 23:01.09 | DWSR_ | lol |
| 23:01.10 | Taroven | God I hate the incessant fiddling that comes from using a wireless connection between five walls... |
| 23:01.18 | DWSR_ | Yeah. |
| 23:01.23 | Taroven | s/between/across/ |
| 23:01.23 | Legorol | preliminary sims show that IIT > no IIT now |
| 23:01.25 | DWSR_ | My specs actually come out ahead of not having IIT. :P |
| 23:01.28 | Antiarc | Taroven: DD-WRT, jack up the transmit wattage :D |
| 23:01.33 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Your spec doesn't, though. :P |
| 23:01.51 | Taroven | Antiarc: God I wish... BOTH of the routers in this house are too crappy for DD-WRT. |
| 23:01.53 | Legorol | sorry rephrase that, i probably don't get that |
| 23:02.04 | Legorol | you mean your spec is better without IIT? |
| 23:02.14 | Legorol | do you have IIT? |
| 23:02.18 | DWSR_ | Yes. |
| 23:02.22 | Taroven | I'd totally be setting up traffic shaping/QoS/whatever you wanna call it so that the children don't completely screw my raids. |
| 23:02.24 | Legorol | ok# |
| 23:02.28 | Legorol | what do you think i should change? |
| 23:02.39 | DWSR_ | Your spec < DW spec w/o IIT < my DW spec w/ IIT |
| 23:02.43 | Kraps | whats the best RP server? |
| 23:02.56 | DWSR_ | You should drop Epidemic and a point in CotG to fill KM. |
| 23:02.57 | Legorol | ok, what do you think makes it worse than either? |
| 23:03.04 | DWSR_ | Not filling KM. |
| 23:03.18 | Legorol | are you intending to use KM for FS or IT? |
| 23:03.18 | DWSR_ | You seen the threat on a single IT? |
| 23:03.21 | Legorol | yes |
| 23:03.27 | Legorol | i was having a lot of fun with it today |
| 23:03.32 | Legorol | so i found that a KM-d IT is huge |
| 23:03.42 | DWSR_ | I just consume KM procs with whatever's coming next, i.e. I don't line it with anything. |
| 23:03.47 | Legorol | ok |
| 23:03.57 | DWSR_ | Having more of them is a huge boost to our threat. |
| 23:04.01 | Legorol | the theory behind not going 5/5 KM is that with IIT, you have so much haste it procs fairly often anyway |
| 23:04.10 | DWSR_ | Yeah, that's the theory. |
| 23:04.26 | Legorol | the idea being that i don't FS much anyway, and even with the buff to IT threat, i shouldn't IT more than once per 10 seconds |
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| 23:04.39 | DWSR_ | I have no points in CotG and a point in Black Ice instead. |
| 23:04.45 | Legorol | ok |
| 23:04.45 | DWSR_ | But, I'm not really having RP issues atm. |
| 23:05.00 | Legorol | as an aside: i tried a ridiculous rotation for fun as well, which was this: |
| 23:05.01 | DWSR_ | Epidemic is a convenience thing more than anything. |
| 23:05.30 | Legorol | IT, PS, IT, FS, BS, BS || IT, PS, IT, FS, IT, IT |
| 23:05.37 | Legorol | insane threat ^^ |
| 23:05.39 | Legorol | very little damage ofc |
| 23:05.40 | DWSR_ | yeah. |
| 23:06.20 | DWSR_ | Epidemic's nice because it saves you some GCDs, but 2 things. |
| 23:06.31 | Legorol | i had epidemic because i dind't have GoHB |
| 23:06.46 | DWSR_ | 1) It's only effective on bosses since you (will be) use(ing) a single disease rotation on trash. |
| 23:06.59 | Legorol | yup, 1 didn't apply to me, i was doing double disease |
| 23:07.09 | Legorol | i understand the point with GoHB |
| 23:07.10 | DWSR_ | and 2) You can work in IT/PS to your rotation. |
| 23:07.21 | DWSR_ | With the IT buff, it's not nearly the threat loss it used to be. |
| 23:07.26 | Legorol | IT+PS is now more threat than OB, right? |
| 23:07.46 | Legorol | or is OB > IT still |
| 23:08.38 | Legorol | i have another practical question: |
| 23:08.45 | DWSR_ | Sec, checking the tables. |
| 23:08.53 | Legorol | link'em to me too :) |
| 23:08.57 | Legorol | unless they are sekret |
| 23:08.59 | DWSR_ | http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.php?40485-Death-Knight-threat-values |
| 23:09.05 | DWSR_ | They're on TankSpot. : |
| 23:09.07 | DWSR_ | :P( |
| 23:09.08 | Legorol | k |
| 23:09.12 | Legorol | i knwo that one |
| 23:09.20 | DWSR_ | They're also old. |
| 23:09.23 | Legorol | yah |
| 23:09.30 | DWSR_ | Since IT has like a 600% threat mod or something absolutely retarded. |
| 23:09.34 | DWSR_ | I can hit 20k from a 2k crit. |
| 23:09.48 | Kraps | DWSR_: build me a build plox http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j |
| 23:09.54 | Legorol | i need to improve my frost trash tanking, it's silly i'm doing worse than in my usual blood spec ;) |
| 23:09.56 | DWSR_ | So I think IT + PS > Ob. |
| 23:10.18 | Legorol | noncrit IT was doing 14k threat for me on test mob |
| 23:10.31 | Legorol | so yah |
| 23:10.42 | Kraps | where am i getting 2 1hders at 58? |
| 23:10.47 | Legorol | i use the unkillable mobs in blasted lands for tanking test ^^ |
| 23:11.04 | msoul | Hiyya |
| 23:11.05 | Legorol | for some things they are better than target dummies, because they do attack you, so you can use RS |
| 23:11.22 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: ping |
| 23:11.26 | Legorol | all right, my last practical question: |
| 23:11.31 | DWSR_ | Kraps: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j0EbZhxsxA0Izc0fuzAo0x:dTa0Vm |
| 23:11.39 | Legorol | how would you start on a bosspull as of today? |
| 23:11.52 | Legorol | would you frontload with some odd IT-heavy rotation, and for how long? |
| 23:12.03 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Don't feel like you're bothering me. :) |
| 23:12.12 | Legorol | i know, thanks :) |
| 23:12.22 | Legorol | i'm never afraid to ask, but i have to go eat soon :) |
| 23:12.30 | DWSR_ | Kraps: ping |
| 23:12.41 | Kraps | DWSR_: yo |
| 23:12.45 | ZorbaTHut | msoul, yo |
| 23:12.56 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: you remember my gear for tanking= |
| 23:12.56 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, wherever you can find 'em |
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| 23:13.05 | DWSR_ | Hey, Legorol, did you ask your question yet? |
| 23:13.06 | msoul | culling shield and the sword for pos i think etc etc? |
| 23:13.14 | Lunessa | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-15098.html |
| 23:13.17 | Taroven | Legorol: I wouldn't stress IT too much. Threat for everyone else didn't magically bump up overnight. |
| 23:13.18 | Legorol | DWSR_: yah, i guess you missed it |
| 23:13.22 | ZorbaTHut | msoul, not really, sorry :D |
| 23:13.26 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: tanked icc10 with it |
| 23:13.29 | msoul | oh |
| 23:13.31 | Legorol | how would you start on a bosspull as of today? ould you frontload with some odd IT-heavy rotation, and for how long? |
| 23:13.38 | DWSR_ | No. |
| 23:13.40 | msoul | well antyway the dk tank was asking me to stop had so much tps :P |
| 23:13.59 | ZorbaTHut | lunessa, nice :D |
| 23:14.00 | DWSR_ | I pull with DG IT PS Ob BS BS |
| 23:14.07 | DWSR_ | That's runes. |
| 23:14.09 | ZorbaTHut | msoul, haha, nice :D |
| 23:14.12 | Legorol | right |
| 23:14.13 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: รถ |
| 23:14.20 | Legorol | and with no epidemic, just rinse and repeat i guess |
| 23:14.23 | msoul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&cn=Rpbb |
| 23:14.24 | Lunessa | I read that and almost sprayed cola onto my monitor from laughing. |
| 23:14.25 | DWSR_ | Yes. |
| 23:14.34 | Legorol | presumably if you had no problem with single target threat before patch, you will have even less now |
| 23:14.35 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: got some mad loot for the first run as a tank |
| 23:14.47 | DWSR_ | Legorol: I spec'ed out of epidemic after the patch. |
| 23:14.50 | DWSR_ | So I have no serious comparison. |
| 23:14.54 | Legorol | ok |
| 23:15.01 | DWSR_ | But, let's just say I was tanking for an 8k warrior without serious issues. |
| 23:15.07 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: ring/sheild and mace |
| 23:15.10 | Legorol | were you doing standard 2 disease OB-OB-OB rotation before patch? |
| 23:15.11 | DWSR_ | http://wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Emerald+Dream&n=Arelin |
| 23:15.19 | DWSR_ | Yeah |
| 23:15.25 | Legorol | ok |
| 23:15.28 | DWSR_ | Might spec back into epidemic. |
| 23:15.31 | DWSR_ | Not really sure. |
| 23:15.35 | Adys | wtf |
| 23:15.36 | Adys | Shadowed: ping |
| 23:15.37 | DWSR_ | It was really nice. |
| 23:15.38 | Legorol | oh, this is curious, so you had epidemic+gohb before? |
| 23:15.40 | Shadowed | no Adys |
| 23:15.43 | Shadowed | last time you asked for me you ran away |
| 23:15.44 | DWSR_ | Yeah |
| 23:15.53 | Legorol | so a nice boss+trash compromise |
| 23:15.57 | DWSR_ | yeah |
| 23:16.07 | Legorol | maybe i should just go with that |
| 23:16.08 | DWSR_ | but now with IIT, I'm even more point constrained. |
| 23:16.13 | Legorol | idd |
| 23:16.17 | DWSR_ | Legorol: I had no IIT before the patch, either. :P |
| 23:16.17 | Legorol | being able to drop epidemic helps |
| 23:16.19 | ZorbaTHut | msoul, first runs are often pretty awesome |
| 23:16.25 | Legorol | well no, before the patch iit didn't make sense |
| 23:16.29 | DWSR_ | yeah. |
| 23:16.31 | ZorbaTHut | the first time I ran naxx25 with a new guild I picked up six upgrades |
| 23:16.36 | ZorbaTHut | and two *more* offspec upgrades |
| 23:16.38 | Legorol | see, the thing with me, i'm good on the theory ^^ |
| 23:16.41 | DWSR_ | :) |
| 23:16.43 | Legorol | i just have no practical experience as frost tank |
| 23:16.50 | ZorbaTHut | (one of which I used until, like, a month ago) |
| 23:16.53 | DWSR_ | Chain pull heroics. |
| 23:16.59 | Legorol | the reason is simple: i read an awful lot on DK tanking, but never specced frost tank before ;) |
| 23:17.00 | DWSR_ | And I mean chain pull. |
| 23:17.06 | Legorol | right |
| 23:17.06 | DWSR_ | If you get out of combat, you failed. |
| 23:17.09 | Legorol | hehe |
| 23:17.10 | DWSR_ | And you have to delete your character. |
| 23:17.12 | DWSR_ | :P |
| 23:17.15 | Legorol | noooo |
| 23:17.16 | Legorol | *sob* |
| 23:17.18 | DWSR_ | lol |
| 23:17.28 | Legorol | yah i should do that |
| 23:17.28 | DWSR_ | That's how I tank all of my heroics now. |
| 23:17.33 | Legorol | well ofc |
| 23:17.41 | Legorol | i pull multiple groups ofc, with a spec i'm used to |
| 23:17.43 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: hehehe |
| 23:17.54 | Legorol | so in the long run, that's the aim with frost too ^^ |
| 23:17.57 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: was fun to play as a tank in icc |
| 23:18.02 | Legorol | so you think it's worth going 5/5 KM? |
| 23:18.05 | ZorbaTHut | took me a month to get positive DKP again :D |
| 23:18.05 | Taroven | DWSR_: 7 minute UK run. Didn't stop moving once. And that's as a prot warrior. =P |
| 23:18.12 | Legorol | bear in mind the slightly higher proc rate from IIT |
| 23:18.16 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Yeah. |
| 23:18.18 | Kraps | oh man this razorscale thing is gonna fail so bad, i can feel it :( |
| 23:18.36 | Legorol | Taroven: how did your dps keep up with you? |
| 23:18.37 | DWSR_ | I have KM up constantly. I think I might actually be hitting a DR on it. |
| 23:18.52 | Legorol | if you constantly keep moving forward, especially including warbringer, then by the time you are at the end, they'll still be halfway through |
| 23:18.54 | DWSR_ | 5/5 is definitely worth it, but I might try 4/5. |
| 23:19.03 | DWSR_ | Legorol: He just said he didn't stop moving. |
| 23:19.07 | Legorol | :) |
| 23:19.08 | Legorol | teasing |
| 23:19.09 | DWSR_ | He probably backwards walked the whole time. |
| 23:19.14 | DWSR_ | That's what I do. |
| 23:19.14 | Legorol | good point |
| 23:19.20 | DWSR_ | Just start pulling trash packs with your ass |
| 23:19.29 | Jerub | a friend on my server got nibelung last night |
| 23:19.29 | DWSR_ | And go LOLHBBB IWIN\ |
| 23:19.30 | DWSR_ | Seriously. |
| 23:19.31 | Legorol | that's kinda neat... tanks are the only people allowed to, or even encouraged, to backpedal |
| 23:19.32 | Jerub | for his heal set :( |
| 23:19.34 | Taroven | Legorol: They just used their tools. =P |
| 23:19.40 | Legorol | dps will get LOLNUBBED if they backpedal |
| 23:19.42 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: hehe |
| 23:19.51 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Tanking is the reason I think that autorun should work backwards. |
| 23:20.03 | Legorol | haha |
| 23:20.05 | Legorol | you have a point there |
| 23:20.10 | Taroven | DWSR_: I was thinking the exact same thing the other night... |
| 23:20.11 | msoul | ZorbaTHut: if i am not mistaken 2 left this guild one of them was the tank... he asked me if i want to join told him not well geared for it |
| 23:20.21 | msoul | he insisted and i went with my culling of stratholme shield |
| 23:20.34 | ZorbaTHut | hah, nice :D |
| 23:20.35 | Legorol | DWSR: i'd certainly would like to find the balance between the right number of points in KM |
| 23:20.47 | Legorol | for now i have 2/3 sob and 2/2 cotg because i really didn't want to risk being RP starved |
| 23:20.50 | DWSR_ | Legorol: I don't know the math so well as to model the effects of each talent like that. |
| 23:20.58 | Legorol | once i had practical experience i'll see if i can cut tha ta bit |
| 23:20.58 | DWSR_ | I can do a microcosm, but meh. |
| 23:21.08 | DWSR_ | 4/5 KM is probably the sweet spot. |
| 23:21.09 | Legorol | well no, i don't expect you to sim :) |
| 23:21.11 | msoul | too bad i bought the arp cloak few days ago... would have bought the trinket if i new they'd neeed a tank |
| 23:21.14 | Legorol | i meant more like play around and see |
| 23:21.32 | DWSR_ | 5/5 I almost have too many procs. |
| 23:21.34 | DWSR_ | Like I said. |
| 23:21.54 | DWSR_ | Though, I'm not sure if that's just me NOT looking at the center of my screen and looking to make sure that everything's on me, that I'm not in fire, etc. |
| 23:21.54 | Legorol | did you say you are using 1/3 sob, 0/0 cotg atm? |
| 23:22.00 | DWSR_ | 2/3 sob 0 cotg. |
| 23:22.12 | Legorol | interesting, i'd have thought it's worth getting cotg before sob |
| 23:22.19 | Legorol | since it's predictable RP flow |
| 23:22.34 | Legorol | and afaik point-per-point they are roughly the same amount of RP |
| 23:23.27 | DWSR_ | It seems like SoB gives me more RP in a raid scenario than in a heroic. |
| 23:23.30 | DWSR_ | Something with heals, I think? |
| 23:23.42 | DWSR_ | I feel like heals give me RP, though that could just be the animation throwing me off. |
| 23:24.09 | Legorol | no, that is correct |
| 23:24.13 | Legorol | nothing to do with SoB |
| 23:24.27 | Legorol | disc priest rapture and resto druid revitalize give RP |
| 23:24.31 | Legorol | (assuming they are specced for it) |
| 23:24.55 | DWSR_ | meh. |
| 23:25.35 | Legorol | well thanks a lot for the tips, i shall be trying heroics soon :) |
| 23:25.54 | Legorol | i'll hold on to my spec for now, those few points shouldn't make a huge deal of difference, until i got a better feel for where i want to move them |
| 23:26.14 | DWSR_ | Glyph's probably the biggest thing |
| 23:26.21 | Legorol | i'd imagine it would be |
| 23:26.44 | DWSR_ | FF ticks for a lot. |
| 23:26.53 | DWSR_ | I usually pull threat on Festergut when I have 9 stacks. |
| 23:27.01 | DWSR_ | Just by having FF + BP ticking away. |
| 23:27.03 | DWSR_ | On a paladin tank. |
| 23:27.04 | Legorol | there's huge difference between IT-PS-Pe.. wait.. HB-BB, and HB-BB immediately for a marginally smaller amount |
| 23:27.26 | Legorol | uh, FF and BP shouldn't tick THAT hard.. |
| 23:27.28 | Legorol | that pala tank sucks |
| 23:27.37 | DWSR_ | No, Frost Presence + 90% increased damage. |
| 23:27.45 | Legorol | by the time you are swapping accro, the threat that you built up is so large, to make up 10% from disease ticks should be impossible |
| 23:27.53 | Legorol | even with that |
| 23:28.00 | Legorol | *aggro |
| 23:28.02 | DWSR_ | lol, you haven't seen what FF + BP ticks for. |
| 23:28.16 | Legorol | i'd imagine the same amount as any other DK tank spec |
| 23:28.22 | Legorol | (well except FF ticks a bit harder) |
| 23:28.29 | Legorol | 10% harder or something |
| 23:28.32 | DWSR_ | lol |
| 23:28.50 | DWSR_ | 90% damage increase stacks multiplicatively with the threat gen. |
| 23:28.52 | Legorol | thanks to glacial rot or whatis |
| 23:28.57 | Legorol | yeah ofc |
| 23:29.02 | Legorol | but that's the same for a blood tank |
| 23:29.03 | DWSR_ | So yeah, it's a *lot* of threat. |
| 23:29.21 | DWSR_ | Had to start swapping to unholy presence. |
| 23:29.22 | WobWork | oh man HB =\ |
| 23:29.22 | Taroven | I'm kinda excited to try out my screwed up Revenge-spam arms/prot build in like half an hour. |
| 23:29.23 | Legorol | on fester swap, as soon as the other tank taunted, i wait 2 seconds, switch to blood pres, and off i go nuking |
| 23:29.33 | DWSR_ | Taroven: UA? |
| 23:29.33 | Legorol | are you making sure to switch to blood pres? |
| 23:29.37 | DWSR_ | lol |
| 23:29.41 | DWSR_ | I didn't the first time. |
| 23:29.45 | Legorol | that should take the threat boost off immediately from the ticks |
| 23:29.46 | DWSR_ | That's why it ticked so fucking hard. |
| 23:29.55 | DWSR_ | He was like WEEEEEE and then I exploded. |
| 23:29.59 | Legorol | haha |
| 23:30.03 | DWSR_ | I didn't realize it was going to be that much of an issue. |
| 23:30.07 | Taroven | DWSR_: Hells yes. Ran a random heroic last night with it. Over the course of the run 71% of my damage was revenge. |
| 23:30.07 | DWSR_ | Everyone was like "WTF just happened?" |
| 23:30.10 | Legorol | anyway, maybe i'm blessed with a good tank, but i didn't have problems there |
| 23:30.27 | DWSR_ | Legorol: Meh, I don't know. |
| 23:30.46 | Legorol | thing is, 10% is a lot |
| 23:30.48 | Taroven | UA Revenge builds blow if you don't have threat to start with though... don't even have vig to cover for fuckups unless you scrap some damage (which I'm about to do) |
| 23:30.51 | Legorol | that late into the fight |
| 23:31.07 | DWSR_ | lol |
| 23:31.09 | DWSR_ | Anyway, I'm out. bbl. |
| 23:32.13 | WobWork | I wonder if I can continue to tank with HB glyph |
| 23:32.15 | WobWork | instead of IT |
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| 23:39.06 | Cide | "your friend needs you to help him in mafia wars" "you have 1 gift request in farmville" "some random guy I barely know has invited you to join the group who the fuck cares?" |
| 23:40.32 | WobWork | I just block all those apps |
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| 23:50.57 | foxlit | They really should've made the token buyout things quests. |
| 23:51.16 | foxlit | Could then separate them out in a few denominations, and everyone would've been happy |
| 23:52.26 | Lunessa | http://mthruf.com/2010/03/09/job-fails-if-i-was-that-guy/ |
| 23:55.24 | alestane | gently welcomes Peppy back. |
| 23:55.39 | Kraps | oh hey peppy |
| 23:55.49 | Kraps | back soon |
| 23:56.18 | foxlit | Indirect evidence points to there being quite a large UI team. |
| 23:56.25 | foxlit | Either that or they're all schizophrenic. |
| 23:56.57 | Shirik | who? |
| 23:57.05 | foxlit | In the recent batch of API functions they've added, there are *three* ways to return booleans. |
| 23:57.13 | Lunessa | foxlit: Or they shuffle people through there a lot. |
| 23:57.18 | Lopeppeppy | heya, kraps |
| 23:57.29 | Lopeppeppy | heya, shirik |
| 23:57.32 | foxlit | Hm, that'd work too, but seems kind of pointless. |
| 23:58.02 | Shirik | kraps first huh :( |
| 23:58.32 | foxlit | There's the old 1/nil; true Lua booleans, and true/nil, which I can only attribute to a mild case of insanity |
| 23:58.58 | Shirik | true/nil ftw |
| 23:59.00 | Shirik | sounds like php |
| 23:59.17 | Shirik | returns true on success, false on end, and null on error |
| 23:59.20 | Shirik | glhf with === |
