| 00:00.42 | Jerub | DWSR: oh, are you doing one of those dual weapon blood dk tank specs or something? |
| 00:01.13 | Kraps | "dual weapon blood dk tank" what |
| 00:01.16 | Jerub | sorry, came into this really late and i don't know much about dks |
| 00:01.30 | Jerub | don't dk tanks do frost+2h weapon and have a hit cap of like 8%? |
| 00:01.44 | DWSR | Jerub: were you droped on your head at birth? |
| 00:01.48 | Jerub | DWSR: yes. |
| 00:01.50 | DWSR | k |
| 00:01.56 | Jerub | but we don't like to talk about 'the incident' |
| 00:02.04 | DWSR | DK tanks come in about 4 styles. |
| 00:02.07 | DWSR | blood 2h |
| 00:02.09 | DWSR | frost 2h. |
| 00:02.12 | DWSR | frost dw. |
| 00:02.21 | DWSR | Generalized D&D tank of any spec. |
| 00:02.44 | DWSR | If you see a tank that's speced deep blood and holding 2 weapons, leave the group |
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| 00:03.00 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 00:03.05 | Kraps | dont you use D&D anywy? |
| 00:03.27 | DWSR | Yeah, it's sorta wierd to explain if you don't know the mechanics well. |
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| 00:03.43 | Kraps | try me |
| 00:04.59 | DWSR | http://elitistjerks.com/f72/t44638-sunos_fireside_chat_dk_endgame_tanking/p87/#post1486990 |
| 00:05.12 | WobWork | Jerub: it is, isn't it? =) |
| 00:05.13 | WobWork | http://community.livejournal.com/dear_gnome/561093.html |
| 00:06.12 | durcyn | DWSR: the first part of that URL i read was "SunOS" |
| 00:06.20 | DWSR | lol |
| 00:06.42 | DWSR | Jerub: Anyway, if you're holding 2 weapons as a DK, you need to be deep frost. |
| 00:06.50 | DWSR | Jerub: Otherwise, well, you're retarded. |
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| 00:11.49 | Thrae | OK, time for a game of "figure out what the cat wants" |
| 00:12.16 | Thrae | Cat Laying On My Pizza Box. Translation: I'm hungry. Me: But I fed you not too long ago. Cat: I'm still hungry. |
| 00:12.29 | Thrae | (Note: Pizza is cold) |
| 00:12.40 | Thunder_Child | pizza is the best cold |
| 00:12.59 | Thrae | Heh |
| 00:13.00 | Kraps | Thrae: you're arguing with a cat. you will not win. |
| 00:13.16 | DWSR | Thrae: The cat wants a hole in the head. |
| 00:14.00 | DWSR | It then wants you to buy a dog. |
| 00:14.32 | Thrae | He's also sulking because I won't let him outside. |
| 00:15.04 | DWSR | Shadowed |
| 00:15.56 | Lunessa | Cats are awesome. |
| 00:16.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 00:16.28 | Thunder_Child | and by awesome you mean a pigger PITA than Fisker? |
| 00:16.32 | Thunder_Child | bigger* |
| 00:16.43 | DWSR | pigger PITA, rofl |
| 00:17.12 | Lunessa | The only thing a bigger PITA than Fisker would be a jackhammer in your pie-exit. |
| 00:17.32 | Thunder_Child | and yet people do that for fun |
| 00:17.43 | Lunessa | Those people worry me. |
| 00:19.45 | DWSR | rofl |
| 00:19.56 | DWSR | someone, please, quote this shit. |
| 00:20.39 | Kraps | dailies give XP :o |
| 00:20.45 | DWSR | Kraps: Yeah? |
| 00:20.54 | Thunder_Child | they have always done that |
| 00:23.39 | theorbtwo | Assuming, of course, that you aren't level capped. |
| 00:23.43 | Lunessa | DWSR someone has a quotes page set up for this channel. |
| 00:23.57 | DWSR | Lunessa: yes, that would be my point |
| 00:24.50 | foxlit | DWSR: Just mention Adys somewhere in a sentence |
| 00:24.54 | foxlit | And it'll happen :) |
| 00:25.07 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 00:25.08 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 00:25.09 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was someone elses |
| 00:25.26 | Adys | and foxlit |
| 00:25.31 | Adys | issue is teomyr doesnt read the chan anymore |
| 00:25.37 | Adys | and i can only quote stuff when I actually read it |
| 00:26.16 | DWSR | Adys |
| 00:26.27 | DWSR | 19:17:11 to 19:17:41 |
| 00:26.56 | Adys | [19:17:07] <+Lopeppeppy> 'cause I don't! |
| 00:26.56 | Adys | [19:17:33] <Duman> lol |
| 00:26.56 | Adys | [19:18:00] <Lunessa> Yeah, she totally doesn't. She asked me to get a lower level alt out to quest with her instead of my using an 80. |
| 00:26.57 | Adys | that? |
| 00:27.51 | Thunder_Child | it was like 10 min ago |
| 00:27.53 | Thunder_Child | if that |
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| 00:27.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 00:28.08 | Adys | I know, I'm just an ass |
| 00:28.15 | DWSR | :P |
| 00:28.18 | Thunder_Child | this we know |
| 00:28.37 | Adys | Thunder_Child: YOU would know |
| 00:29.00 | Thunder_Child | of course i know, i'm in this channel all the time |
| 00:29.59 | Thunder_Child | every time i get woken up at night for no reason i think "must be Adys being an ass in irc" and go back to bed |
| 00:30.22 | Adys | thats a creepy coincidence |
| 00:30.32 | Adys | every time I get woken up at night, it's because of my ass as well |
| 00:30.32 | ScytheBlade1 | yes... coincidence.. |
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| 00:30.51 | Thunder_Child | they have pills for that Adys |
| 00:32.31 | Thunder_Child | they even have it in suppository form if it matters |
| 00:32.53 | Lopeppeppy | Or just try ice cream. |
| 00:33.10 | Thunder_Child | that sounds like a waste of icecream |
| 00:33.11 | Adys | there are ice cream suppositories? |
| 00:33.44 | Amarande | Adys: you are officially placed on vacation from watching any Monty Python for the next week |
| 00:33.46 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i can suddenly see the next big thing is anal ice cream |
| 00:33.47 | Lopeppeppy | You could make those, yes. |
| 00:33.53 | Amarande | You too, Peppy. :) |
| 00:33.58 | Adys | there are ice cream suppositories in monty python? |
| 00:34.11 | Lopeppeppy | Amarande, I don't even have a TV to hunt the pythons with. |
| 00:34.22 | theorbtwo | It would explain the ministry of silly walks... |
| 00:34.25 | Adys | Thunder_Child |
| 00:34.30 | Adys | Anal [Tigule and Foror's Strawberry Ice Cream] |
| 00:34.35 | Thunder_Child | you have a computer Lopeppeppy, thats good enough |
| 00:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | Usually, TC, but not for everything. |
| 00:34.56 | Thunder_Child | thats bad enough in wow Adys, thanks for failing outside as well |
| 00:35.13 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: for watching the python it is |
| 00:35.19 | Amarande | Adys: and you tell ME to stop making WoW references :P |
| 00:35.31 | Lopeppeppy | I don't own any pythons. |
| 00:35.35 | Lopeppeppy | Is very sad. |
| 00:35.36 | Adys | Amarande: i really couldnt resist on that one |
| 00:35.41 | Thunder_Child | you want one? |
| 00:35.42 | Adys | believe me I hate myself for making it |
| 00:35.53 | Thunder_Child | not as much as i hate you |
| 00:36.00 | Adys | ~whalenuke Thunder_Child |
| 00:36.01 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Thunder_Child with his mind powers. |
| 00:36.08 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield Adys |
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| 00:36.16 | Adys | fail |
| 00:36.17 | Adys | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 00:36.17 | purl | installs a bad bootloader on Thunder_Child and turns Thunder_Child into a brick |
| 00:36.27 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, bricked. |
| 00:36.36 | Adys | Great |
| 00:36.41 | Thunder_Child | what happened to whaleshield |
| 00:36.44 | Adys | Now just gotta wait for someone to shit Thunder_Child |
| 00:38.16 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo CMD: whaleshield (.*?) |
| 00:38.16 | purl | Thunder_Child: there's no such factoid as cmd: whaleshield (.*?) |
| 00:38.40 | Adys | ~whaleparry whaleshield (.*?) |
| 00:38.41 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry whaleshield (.*?)'s attacks. |
| 00:39.47 | Thunder_Child | there was one, the whole mental shiled from nuclear blast thing |
| 00:39.53 | Thunder_Child | shield* |
| 00:41.17 | Adys | ugh |
| 00:41.20 | Adys | anyone good with django orm? |
| 00:41.30 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. See you later, |
| 00:41.52 | Thunder_Child | oh fuck me |
| 00:41.55 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield |
| 00:41.56 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast. |
| 00:42.02 | Thunder_Child | ... |
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| 00:42.08 | Adys | owned tbh |
| 00:42.14 | Thunder_Child | indeed |
| 00:42.19 | Adys | ~purl++ |
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| 00:51.32 | Amarande | so here I am looking around Adobe's font selection deciding which fonts to use to write a book with |
| 00:51.35 | Amarande | and I see Friz Quadrata |
| 00:51.46 | Amarande | and the first thing I keep thinking is "someone would pay 35 good hard earned bucks for THAT?" :| |
| 00:51.53 | Amarande | WoW spoils one's perspective :| |
| 00:52.21 | Ginji_ | Bitstrean Vera |
| 00:52.35 | Ginji | Always Bitstream Vera |
| 00:52.53 | DWSR | mhm |
| 00:53.16 | Amarande | that's a text font, I'm perusing potential heading fonts |
| 00:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | Use Papyrus if you want to avoid having suicide mar your insurance inheritance. |
| 00:56.19 | Ginji | Heading, why not arial |
| 00:56.29 | Ginji | I like the default OOo settings |
| 00:56.47 | Amarande | I thought Papyrus was generally regarded as an "overused, not that great anymore" font |
| 00:56.55 | Amarande | and Arial is just *bad* |
| 00:57.06 | DWSR | I'm a fan of Sans-Serif. |
| 00:57.15 | Amarande | Arial conveys the following impression to any potential market: "I was too cheap to shell out the 29 bucks for Helvetica" |
| 00:57.16 | Ginji | comic sans remains my fav |
| 00:57.18 | DWSR | I like Calibri |
| 00:57.27 | Ginji | You pay for fonts? |
| 00:57.33 | Ginji | Oeh Calibri is nice too |
| 00:57.36 | DWSR | Ginji: If he wants to publish the book |
| 00:57.39 | Ginji | Oohhh |
| 00:58.00 | DWSR | Amarande: I'm a fan of Sans-serif. Calibri, Bitsream Vera, both favourites. |
| 00:58.01 | Amarande | yes, Ginji. publishing with unlicensed fonts is a good way to find yourself on the failtrain to court |
| 00:58.09 | DWSR | Also, like Liberation Sans and Myriad Condensed. |
| 01:01.38 | Ginji | Didn't know you actually had to pay to use a font for publishing |
| 01:01.47 | Ginji | Another day, another lesson |
| 01:02.08 | DWSR | Apparent.y |
| 01:02.10 | DWSR | Apparently* |
| 01:02.29 | DWSR | You can hold threat on a 7k DPS Fury warrior by only having 2.5k DPS in unholy presence as a DW tank. |
| 01:02.35 | cbreak | it's like any other artwork or software |
| 01:02.43 | cbreak | if you want to use it, you should have a license |
| 01:02.52 | cbreak | the fonts that come with your OS should be OK |
| 01:03.07 | Amarande | Ginji: well, some fonts are free, but you really don't want to use those for publishing |
| 01:03.20 | Ginji | What's wrong with bitstream! |
| 01:03.33 | Dagmar | Nothing. |
| 01:03.45 | Ginji | Or does OOo have some kind of deal with them |
| 01:03.57 | cbreak | if you want a good free font for publishing, check out gentium: |
| 01:03.59 | cbreak | http://sil-international.kernest.com/fonts/gentium-book-basic-regular |
| 01:04.13 | cbreak | I used it for my masters thesis with some success :) (probably wasn0t the font though) |
| 01:04.18 | Jerub | my dad's a printer, i love getting his help with publishing concerns :) |
| 01:04.26 | Amarande | in any case, I already purchased a license for ITC Souvenir bold, italic, and normal, so now it's time to look into heading fonts that don't clash with it |
| 01:04.34 | cbreak | Jerub: laser or ink-jet? |
| 01:04.45 | Ginji | lol |
| 01:05.07 | Ginji | matrix |
| 01:05.10 | Ginji | kkgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggk |
| 01:06.10 | Jerub | cbreak: .. not a literal printer. |
| 01:06.30 | Adys | nevcairiel: SoldItem.objects.filter(vendor=33936, item=51480).filter(Q(itemextendedcost_sold_item__item=43307, itemextendedcost_sold_item__amount=1540) & Q(itemextendedcost_sold_item__item=43308, itemextendedcost_sold_item__amount=55000)).distinct() |
| 01:06.30 | Amarande | haha |
| 01:06.33 | Adys | props if you make this work |
| 01:06.47 | Adys | it breaks at the second filter's & |
| 01:06.58 | Adys | either query is fine and returns one item as expected |
| 01:07.03 | Adys | but both joined don't |
| 01:07.47 | cbreak | ITC Souvenir looks weird... so round |
| 01:07.56 | Kraps | wow, a leveling non-fail OK run with only one wipe |
| 01:08.11 | Kraps | pinches himself |
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| 01:08.49 | Jerub | Kraps: do you know how to skip to the last boss? |
| 01:08.59 | Amarande | meh, it's OK, it's not rocket surgery |
| 01:09.59 | Kraps | Jerub: you mean from when you come out of the tunnel? |
| 01:10.06 | Jerub | Kraps: no. |
| 01:10.12 | Jerub | Kraps: i mean, do OK with only 1 boss. |
| 01:10.20 | Kraps | no |
| 01:10.29 | Jerub | I was taught ina pug the other night. |
| 01:10.56 | Jerub | takes some fancy wall walking, but it's possible. |
| 01:11.05 | Amarande | Jerub: boo. that's three fewer dream shards :( |
| 01:11.07 | Jerub | i'll make a video this week if i have time. |
| 01:11.16 | Jerub | Amarande: it's worth it if you hate OK as much as i do. |
| 01:11.38 | Kraps | Amarande: i never said it was. but it seems you havent done many pugs |
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| 01:13.45 | Thunder_Child | ok, who has Cenosillicaphobia? |
| 01:13.58 | Amarande | most PUGs I've been in would probably perish the thought |
| 01:14.04 | Amarande | their motto is basically LOOT FOR THE LOOT GOD |
| 01:14.15 | kd3 | blah, the OK wall-walk? |
| 01:14.19 | kd3 | haven't they fixed that yet? |
| 01:18.54 | Dagmar | They should just mark a tile or two frictionless there |
| 01:20.30 | Ginji | wall of death |
| 01:22.04 | Dagmar | No... Epic Slide O' Fun! |
| 01:24.45 | Amarande | SUPER FUN HAPPY SLIDE! |
| 01:27.32 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
| 01:30.25 | DWSR | Shadowed: Is the main feature in Elitist Group finished yet? |
| 01:31.08 | Seerah | the main feature? |
| 01:31.13 | DWSR | yes. |
| 01:31.21 | DWSR | The feature that allows you to select a main character. |
| 01:31.32 | DWSR | That way, whenever anyone inspects an alt when using EG, it'll show the experience from your main character. |
| 01:31.46 | Seerah | oh. I would have worded the question differently, if I were you. :p |
| 01:32.14 | DWSR | He knows what I'm talking about, I'm sure. :P |
| 01:32.26 | Gnarfoz | neat |
| 01:33.03 | DWSR | yes. |
| 01:33.03 | Gnarfoz | youtube's uploader shows little thumbnails it takes right from the file you're currently uploading |
| 01:33.03 | DWSR | Oh, cool. |
| 01:33.36 | Gnarfoz | so you can see live progress (in terms of video content, not just a progress bar) how far along it is :D |
| 01:33.53 | Gnarfoz | (I bet this video gets deleted quickly anyway :() |
| 01:35.03 | Gnarfoz | that, or simply nobody cared to upload a non-awful looking cap of Neil Patrick Harris's opening song at the 2010 Oscars, yet |
| 01:36.11 | DWSR | Is there a cap to how many weapon skill points you can earn against a single mob? |
| 01:36.19 | Dagmar | Nope |
| 01:37.15 | kd3 | you can go 0-400 on a healing-type mob if you do it right |
| 01:37.46 | DWSR | meh. |
| 01:38.00 | DWSR | I just picked up my tank set, swapped out weapons and am beating on a treant under Dal. |
| 01:38.11 | DWSR | Haven't hit him yet. |
| 01:38.28 | DWSR | ZOMG! |
| 01:38.32 | DWSR | 150 <glancing>! |
| 01:39.03 | DWSR | Someone got the macro for avoidance handy? |
| 01:39.11 | DWSR | s/avoidance/to show your avoidance/ |
| 01:39.17 | DWSR | s/// fail. |
| 01:39.35 | Kraps | shield block blocks every hit of heroic instance trash :) |
| 01:42.47 | Jerub | treants under dal is how i got my 400 weapon skills on my drood |
| 01:42.47 | Dagmar | You can now melee on par with a level 30 toon. |
| 01:42.47 | Dagmar | Congratulations, my 'lock could beat you down. |
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| 01:43.39 | DWSR | Someone got the macro to show your avoidance handy? |
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| 01:44.51 | cbreak | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.05 | cbreak | it's not very sophisticated |
| 01:47.31 | DWSR | lol |
| 01:49.17 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps_ (~chatzilla@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:52.41 | Adys | help center | e-mail options | report spam |
| 01:52.41 | Adys | Gnarfoz has subscribed to you on YouTube! |
| 01:52.41 | Adys | Gnarfoz found you on YouTube via the "You may know these people" suggestions box |
| 01:52.48 | Gnarfoz | Adys: yeah |
| 01:52.52 | Adys | stalker imho |
| 01:52.57 | Gnarfoz | google is |
| 01:52.58 | Gnarfoz | not me |
| 01:53.01 | NightHawkTheSane | guh, my bash-fu is failing me. i want to recursively do chmod 755 on directories only within a given path... any good way to do this easily? |
| 01:53.05 | Gnarfoz | I just wanted to get rid of the damn box |
| 01:53.55 | DWSR | NHTS: ihttp://movabletripe.com/archive/recursively-chmod-directories-only/ |
| 01:54.15 | frontendloader | sure is google |
| 01:54.16 | DWSR | First hit for recursive chmod on directories only. |
| 01:54.31 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: ... >< yeah, this is where i deserve a snarky comment. |
| 01:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | thanks, though :) |
| 01:54.38 | DWSR | NHTS: Apparently, your google-fu is non-existant? :P |
| 01:54.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm a little out of it :P |
| 01:54.56 | DWSR | It's k |
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| 01:56.27 | Dagmar | What? |
| 01:56.39 | Dagmar | find /path -type d -exe chmod blah {} \; |
| 01:56.41 | DWSR | Dagmar: Leveling up against the elites in Icecrown seems to be the way to go. |
| 01:56.42 | Dagmar | Not hard. |
| 01:57.15 | Dagmar | er whoops -exec not -exe |
| 01:57.26 | Dagmar | ...and blah is mode |
| 01:57.29 | DWSR | lolwindows. |
| 01:57.51 | Dagmar | DWSR: I just sneak in and smack people with the stick when they're not looking. It keeps the skill up well enough |
| 01:57.56 | DWSR | lol |
| 01:58.16 | DWSR | Ghoul sac being a 12k heal is lolwtf. |
| 01:58.27 | Dagmar | DWSR: Fear this then: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ |
| 01:58.34 | Dagmar | Unix CLI utilities for Win32. |
| 01:58.44 | Dagmar | I effing *despise* file ops in Win32 without them. |
| 01:58.48 | DWSR | Fear? |
| 01:58.50 | DWSR | ZOMG. |
| 01:58.52 | DWSR | I needed that |
| 01:58.56 | DWSR | I type ls so much |
| 01:59.06 | Dagmar | Yeah. That's a minor problem solved. |
| 01:59.31 | Dagmar | Some of my coworkers chuckle when they see me type it on a Windows machine, and then the chuckle stops when it works |
| 01:59.56 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:00.16 | DWSR | http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/UnxUpdates.zip |
| 02:00.22 | DWSR | ~epic fail Dagmar |
| 02:00.23 | purl | Dagmar, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you Dagmar, you are that epic failure. |
| 02:00.45 | Dagmar | I'm not the sysadmin for there |
| 02:00.52 | Jerub | Dagmar: i recall being in the engineering labs at uni and using 'ls' and 'rm' and stuff for a good hour before i realised i was on a C:\> prompt |
| 02:01.01 | kd3 | I've done that |
| 02:01.04 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: install msys and totally fuck with them |
| 02:01.05 | kd3 | utter and complete hatred |
| 02:01.45 | Dagmar | DWSR: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unxutils has a zip file that's likely it as well |
| 02:01.49 | DWSR | yes |
| 02:02.14 | DWSR | 377 weapon skill |
| 02:02.16 | DWSR | So close |
| 02:02.25 | DWSR | and by that I mean at least another hour |
| 02:11.41 | DWSR | Fallen Crusader procs are overpowered. |
| 02:12.57 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:13.08 | DWSR | I love being able to AFK level up my weapons as a tank\ |
| 02:13.22 | DWSR | Something I definitely missed out on as a warlock |
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| 02:19.05 | Shirik | Can someone translate this for me? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=349135400&oldid=349110079 |
| 02:19.16 | *** join/#wowuidev mascondante (~kvirc@99-196-36-207.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 02:19.59 | Adys | ~x se en thank you for telling me.i like this message.i left this message to tell you about your message.thank you about your report too.same message for your report.bye-bye. |
| 02:20.48 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:20.54 | DWSR | Shirik: No idea. |
| 02:20.57 | Adys | i guess purl cant translate it |
| 02:21.02 | DWSR | Shirik: You getting any more WTFs about my edit? :P |
| 02:21.08 | Shirik | no :P |
| 02:21.41 | DWSR | did it get rolled back? |
| 02:22.09 | Lopeppeppy | are you getting shirik in trouble with his 4chan peeps? |
| 02:22.15 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:22.17 | Shirik | 4chan doesn't like me |
| 02:22.22 | Shadowed | 4chan homies |
| 02:22.28 | Lopeppeppy | *pretends not to know the difference* |
| 02:22.31 | Shirik | I don't use 4chan ._. |
| 02:22.38 | Shadowed | You seem to know a lot about 4chan |
| 02:23.07 | DWSR | Shirik: Also, why didn't the vanadalism number update? |
| 02:23.16 | Shirik | because I didn't increment it :P |
| 02:23.20 | DWSR | fail |
| 02:23.21 | DWSR | UPDATE IT |
| 02:23.25 | Shirik | no >< |
| 02:25.13 | Adys | My edit from ages ago on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyamory is still there |
| 02:26.10 | Adys | ill give shirik a kiss if he finds out which one it is |
| 02:26.17 | Shirik | too lazy |
| 02:26.25 | Shadowed | You're supposed to motivate, not scare away |
| 02:26.34 | Adys | cmon shirik |
| 02:26.38 | Adys | its the second line of the article |
| 02:26.38 | Adys | >_> |
| 02:27.37 | Shirik | I think it's the second line of the article |
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| 02:30.09 | DWSR | lol |
| 02:31.18 | Lunessa | Tank fail. Malygos kills 3% of the raid in 10 seconds. Me included. |
| 02:31.26 | Lopeppeppy | Owies. |
| 02:32.14 | Lunessa | even dead I out-DPSed the raid. And I'm the one with the key. |
| 02:32.26 | Gnarfoz | I wonder how youtube's media recognizing tech works as precise as it does |
| 02:32.34 | DWSR | Lunessa: You mean you were doing more than 50% of the raid's total DPS? |
| 02:32.36 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy. I knew I loved you for a reason. |
| 02:32.43 | Adys | Gnarfoz: signatures |
| 02:32.47 | Lunessa | DWSR Yes. |
| 02:32.51 | DWSR | Lunessa: Leave that shit. |
| 02:32.51 | Adys | theres a lot of manual work involved |
| 02:32.53 | Gnarfoz | Adys: of what, exactly? |
| 02:33.01 | Adys | sound and image. separately |
| 02:33.08 | Adys | of chunks in the video |
| 02:33.18 | Gnarfoz | hm, yeah, needs to be chunks |
| 02:33.24 | Adys | and mind you |
| 02:33.30 | Gnarfoz | otherwise I would wonder how my video would have gotten blocked this fast |
| 02:33.32 | Gnarfoz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0c8qdOPi04&hd=1 :\ |
| 02:33.34 | Lunessa | Going to give them one more try, but if I die... I'm out. |
| 02:33.39 | Adys | every time they manually tag a video as copyright infriging |
| 02:33.52 | Gnarfoz | (best thing is: they keep it and let *me* watch it. it's just not publically viewable) |
| 02:34.06 | Adys | they also add the signatures of that video to the list |
| 02:34.14 | Adys | it builds a huge signature database |
| 02:34.19 | Adys | its insane tbh and disgusting |
| 02:35.01 | Adys | btw Gnarfoz |
| 02:35.05 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussions-22/texturing-bug-on-ptr-(pretty-awesome-screenshots)/ |
| 02:35.36 | Gnarfoz | how do I make xchat accept parentheses as part of URLs? :X |
| 02:35.42 | Gnarfoz | *copies link* |
| 02:36.12 | cbreak | Gnarfoz: % escapes |
| 02:36.21 | Adys | its called uriencoding |
| 02:36.22 | Adys | :P |
| 02:36.24 | cbreak | I think ( and ) aren't valid in URLs |
| 02:36.30 | Adys | or urinecoding, for Lopeppeppy |
| 02:36.30 | alestane | scritches Peppy behind the ears. |
| 02:36.42 | kd3 | they're not supposed to be, but everyone uses them |
| 02:36.45 | kd3 | %28 and %29 |
| 02:37.19 | Gnarfoz | neither answers my question: how do I make x-chat be part of "everyone uses them" :p |
| 02:37.32 | Gnarfoz | probably not at all, without recompiling it -.- |
| 02:37.45 | Adys | yeah you gotta recompile it |
| 02:38.57 | alestane | 3% of the raid doesn't seem like very much, Lunessa. Even in 25-man that's not even one person. |
| 02:39.27 | Lunessa | 30% |
| 02:41.25 | Lopeppeppy | No scritches. I bite today. Rawr. |
| 02:41.33 | Lopeppeppy | I am a piranha. I come from the Amazon. *NOM* |
| 02:42.38 | frontendloader | ugh its so hard to see spaces in the ingame macro editor |
| 02:43.49 | Lunessa | Yeah, tank can't hold aggro, healers can't heal and Melee DPS (asid from me) doesn't seem to put out any DPS. |
| 02:43.53 | Lunessa | Bailed. |
| 02:44.11 | Jerub | i felt bad for a group i was in yesterday. |
| 02:44.26 | Jerub | hhor on random, i start it because everyone else ran past the girl, hit the wrong option so we got the long intro |
| 02:44.53 | Jerub | they were bitching about the long intro and it was /nearly/ done when i got a whisper, 'icc25? just got to marrowgar.' |
| 02:44.59 | Lunessa | Damn you Arthas, damn you! |
| 02:45.09 | Lopeppeppy | I'll get you my pretty, and your little dog too. |
| 02:47.59 | kd3 | oh, huh. ruby sanctum's map got updated 2 builds ago |
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| 02:49.18 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: hows your hand? |
| 02:51.20 | Shadowed | oh hey uninterruptible bug got fixed on PTR |
| 02:52.58 | DWSR | Shadowed: Is the ElitistGroup feature for mains completed? |
| 02:53.18 | DWSR | Because it's not working correctly, and I'm wondering if PEBKAC, or something else. |
| 02:53.37 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, the surgery didn't work as advertised. I'm pretty much right where I was before I had it. |
| 02:53.51 | Lopeppeppy | But the stitches are out and it doesn't hurt as much anymore, yay for that. |
| 02:54.02 | Kraps | dang :( |
| 02:54.03 | Shadowed | That sucks :( |
| 02:54.20 | Shadowed | Not any worst at least? |
| 02:54.33 | Lopeppeppy | Does suck mightily, yup. We'll see what magic PT has to offer. Not any worse, at least. |
| 02:57.35 | frontendloader | why is UnitName sometimes returning two fields |
| 02:57.44 | Shadowed | frontendloader: name, server |
| 02:57.53 | frontendloader | odd |
| 02:58.16 | Lopeppeppy | Why odd? |
| 02:58.17 | frontendloader | its doing it for my own server but only some of the time |
| 02:58.17 | Shadowed | Odd? |
| 02:58.46 | Shadowed | the server arg should never be set for people from your own server. server can sometimes be an empty string (""), but it won't be set |
| 02:59.09 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.23 | Dagmar | At this rate I'm going to be buying FFXIII before the nigth is out |
| 03:07.08 | Amarande | DWSR: ElitistGroup? What's that do? |
| 03:09.10 | DWSR | Amarande: Check WoWI |
| 03:09.32 | A-KO | already have it Dagmar, it's fun stuff :P |
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| 03:11.25 | Adys | Shirik |
| 03:11.26 | Adys | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fictional_child_prodigies |
| 03:11.29 | Adys | why do these pages exist? |
| 03:12.54 | frontendloader | Why is the Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo article longer than articles about things of actual value? |
| 03:13.39 | DWSR | frat boys. |
| 03:14.09 | Adys | Did you know |
| 03:14.26 | Adys | wikipedia has an article for 0.007% of the current world population |
| 03:15.34 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line#Ley_lines_in_fiction |
| 03:16.02 | Kraps | no wow? |
| 03:20.22 | frontendloader | /script for i=1,25 do local r="raid" .. i;local s=(select(4,UnitDebuff(r,"Inoculated")) or 0);if s<3 then print(s,select(1,UnitName(r))) end end |
| 03:20.31 | frontendloader | still printing nils for me at the end of each line for some reason :/ |
| 03:21.46 | Shadowed | frontendloader: What do you want to find out |
| 03:21.55 | frontendloader | how many stacks of inoculated someone has |
| 03:22.13 | frontendloader | it works proper, its just printing an extra nil at the end of each line |
| 03:22.21 | Shadowed | select(1, UnitName(r)) is redundant by the way |
| 03:22.28 | Shadowed | try |
| 03:22.31 | Shadowed | (UnitName(r)) |
| 03:22.38 | frontendloader | thats what I had but it was spitting out nils |
| 03:22.39 | Jerub | is it possible to learn the cooldown of a raidmember's ability? |
| 03:22.40 | Shadowed | that will give you only the players name and you won't get the extra nil |
| 03:22.44 | frontendloader | oh |
| 03:22.47 | frontendloader | parens |
| 03:22.51 | Jerub | raidleader seemed to know when our rebirth cooldowns were down last night |
| 03:22.59 | frontendloader | OH RIGHT |
| 03:23.05 | frontendloader | shocking realizations itt |
| 03:23.07 | Shadowed | select returns all arguments at and after the index set. So if you have a function that returns "a", "b", "c", "d". You do select(1, ...) you get a - d |
| 03:23.13 | Shadowed | if you do select(2, ...) you get b - d |
| 03:24.53 | Kraps | hey shammies, why is a shield better than an offhand item with better stats? |
| 03:25.11 | Thunder_Child | armor? |
| 03:25.22 | Thunder_Child | depends what you do |
| 03:25.33 | Kraps | why does it matter? |
| 03:25.41 | Thunder_Child | umm...pvp |
| 03:25.45 | Kraps | no other casters need a shield |
| 03:25.54 | Thunder_Child | pallies |
| 03:25.57 | Thunder_Child | healing pallies* |
| 03:26.17 | Kraps | same question |
| 03:26.38 | frontendloader | ah I did not know that about select, but that makes sense |
| 03:26.41 | Thunder_Child | well not really, pallies can not use an offhand weapon |
| 03:26.54 | Antiarc | * Bladestorm: Warriors can now be Disarmed while under the effects of this ability. |
| 03:26.56 | Antiarc | Amazing |
| 03:27.12 | Kraps | Antiarc: /facepalm |
| 03:27.35 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: at the top end i dont think you will ever find an off hand weapon for casters that is better than a shield |
| 03:27.48 | Thunder_Child | since i cant think of any caster that can use an offhand weapon |
| 03:27.57 | Thunder_Child | except for a shammy |
| 03:28.11 | Thunder_Child | maybe a druid? |
| 03:28.16 | Shirik | Adys, nominate it for deletion |
| 03:28.31 | Shirik | hell it's already marked |
| 03:28.33 | Shirik | This article may not meet the general notability guideline. Please help to establish notability by adding reliable, secondary sources about the topic. If notability cannot be established, the article is likely to be merged, redirected, or deleted. (January 2010) |
| 03:28.36 | Jerub | not druid. |
| 03:29.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: because off hand items don't have 8k+ armor |
| 03:29.02 | Kraps | would a priest/lock/mage be better with a shield if they could have one? |
| 03:29.16 | Thunder_Child | in pvp sure |
| 03:29.44 | Jerub | Kraps: i dunno. my druid only cares about SP, which is why she uses midnight sun/shriveled heart as main hand and offhand item |
| 03:29.53 | Jerub | but no offhand weapons or shields are available so i don't know |
| 03:30.12 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: why does a shammy need 8k armor and priest/lock/mage dont? |
| 03:30.27 | Kraps | shammys already have more than them |
| 03:30.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: I didn't say they didn't, or that shamans did. |
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| 03:30.54 | NightHawkTheSane | but thats just the way it is. |
| 03:31.17 | NightHawkTheSane | if i came across a off hand item that had way better stats than my shield, i'd take it, no questions asked |
| 03:31.28 | NightHawkTheSane | but if it's close, i'd rather have the shield |
| 03:33.40 | Jerub | Kraps: druids get extra armor in tree form |
| 03:34.00 | Kraps | and in kin form |
| 03:34.15 | Jerub | oh, sorry, i really only think resto |
| 03:34.23 | Kraps | heh |
| 03:35.19 | Kraps | lk was downed on our server 3 days ago |
| 03:35.27 | Thunder_Child | i thought they got the most in kin form....but maybe that was a while ago |
| 03:36.05 | Jerub | Kraps: grats. |
| 03:36.20 | Kraps | or march 5 actually |
| 03:38.06 | Shadowed | Moonkin > Bear > Tree I want to say |
| 03:39.37 | Shadowed | Mmm moonkin and bear are equal, but bears have a talent to up it I guess |
| 03:41.16 | Shadowed | anyone using FF 3.5? |
| 03:41.18 | Shadowed | Adys sucks |
| 03:41.24 | Jerub | Shadowed: yep |
| 03:41.32 | Shadowed | Jerub: http://db.mmo-champion.com/ is the "go" button aligned to the top for you? |
| 03:41.46 | Adys | Shadowed: screenshot it tbh |
| 03:41.53 | Shadowed | Adys: I like to make you suffer |
| 03:42.02 | DWSR | Shadowed: How do you configure the set main option in EG"? |
| 03:42.05 | Adys | I LIKE TO PUT MY STICK UP YOUR HOLE. |
| 03:42.11 | DWSR | Shadowed: Because, I used "Set x as my main character" |
| 03:42.11 | Adys | now |
| 03:42.14 | Adys | screenshot it |
| 03:42.15 | Adys | otherwise |
| 03:42.17 | DWSR | And now my alt won't show my main's experience |
| 03:42.33 | Kraps | Adys: here http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/march/ss964.jpg |
| 03:42.44 | Adys | ill change my skills api to take only base61-rot13'd encoded alpha-shifted strings |
| 03:42.53 | Shadowed | that's fine, I'll start my own DB |
| 03:43.07 | Adys | uh |
| 03:43.08 | Adys | okay |
| 03:43.09 | Adys | do it |
| 03:43.13 | Adys | Im watching :P |
| 03:43.15 | Jerub | Shadowed: hard to tell. |
| 03:43.24 | Adys | gets the popcorn |
| 03:43.26 | Shadowed | http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4423376201_a4c5b07ca0_o.png |
| 03:43.29 | Jerub | Shadowed: it looks like it's in line with the top of the search bar |
| 03:43.32 | Shadowed | yea |
| 03:43.36 | Shadowed | It's maybe 3 pixels off |
| 03:43.46 | Jerub | oh, decreasing font size shows it definately aligning top |
| 03:45.55 | Adys | Kraps: i knew i recognized that gay watermark |
| 03:45.58 | Adys | http://nadou.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Daien-77846856 |
| 03:46.06 | DWSR | Shadowed? |
| 03:46.35 | Kraps | Adys: y so gay? |
| 03:46.42 | Adys | because it ruins the pic |
| 03:47.41 | Kraps | its on the bottom corner ffs |
| 03:48.21 | Kraps | *you're* being gay |
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| 03:49.42 | kd3 | huh, weird. x crashed |
| 03:49.42 | Adys | Kraps: no, it does ruin the pic |
| 03:49.59 | Adys | if it were on the background instead |
| 03:50.01 | Adys | itd be fine |
| 03:50.14 | Adys | but it has to be on the foreground above the actual legs |
| 03:50.18 | Adys | retarded tbh |
| 03:50.20 | Adys | not to mention |
| 03:50.34 | Adys | the thing was submitted (and accepted?!) as blizzard fanart |
| 03:50.41 | Kraps | i think you're trolling me |
| 03:50.47 | Adys | im not trolling you |
| 03:51.01 | Adys | you dont fucking submit watermarked shit like that to blizzard as official fanart |
| 03:51.29 | Shadowed | play nice |
| 03:51.35 | Adys | SHUT UP FOOL |
| 03:51.38 | Kraps | blizzard accepted it, take it up with them |
| 03:54.32 | Adys | how many times a day does wowhead run a maintenance |
| 03:54.40 | Adys | man |
| 03:54.48 | Adys | why do they actually even run maintenances |
| 03:54.56 | Adys | particularly when im actually using them |
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| 03:58.06 | Shirik | "It’s super strong aluminum T-tube and deck comfortably supports riders up to 220 lbs." |
| 03:58.17 | Shirik | Is it so much to ask that marketing actually understands english? |
| 03:58.33 | Shirik | If you're going to advertise something, you'd think you'd at least show that you know what you're talking about |
| 03:59.57 | kd3 | tries to picture a "T-tube and deck" supporting riders of 220 lbs... |
| 04:00.04 | kd3 | some kind of amusement park contraption? |
| 04:00.28 | Iriel | What about riders over 220 lbs, are they still supported, just not comfortably? |
| 04:00.32 | Iriel | What form does their discomfort take? |
| 04:00.45 | kd3 | jabs in uncomfortable places? |
| 04:00.55 | kd3 | a kick in the groin? |
| 04:02.40 | Shirik | kd3: It's a scooter |
| 04:03.14 | kd3 | so... overweight people just break it then. fair enough |
| 04:08.03 | Dagmar | Frame failure at speed |
| 04:08.36 | Shirik | heh |
| 04:08.36 | Dagmar | All the fun of a viet-bike without the trouble of finding a bondo maniac to tell you it's been "restored" |
| 04:08.43 | Shirik | deck breaks, pole skids |
| 04:08.51 | Shirik | friction with ground causes it to immediately slow down |
| 04:08.55 | Shirik | instant collision with nearby body parts |
| 04:09.00 | Amarande | Shirik: the thing was probably made and written about in China |
| 04:09.03 | Shirik | males: I am sorry for you |
| 04:10.54 | Dagmar | If you weigh more than 220 lbs you should really be looking at at _least_ a 150cc engine, which almost takes you out of scooter-class vehicles |
| 04:11.11 | Dagmar | Otherwise your accelleration is going to be somewhat lackluster |
| 04:11.20 | kd3 | "somewhat"? |
| 04:11.41 | Dagmar | Meaning you might actually accellerate up hills at the rate people expect from a scooter |
| 04:11.48 | Dagmar | Meaning no "ZOOMGONE" |
| 04:12.51 | Dagmar | I weigh 180 and I ride a 125cc scooter (which I have to take the carb out of and clean it) and it's gotta a better mass-to-engine ratio that anything with four doors |
| 04:13.34 | Dagmar | It doesnt' even make a lot of noise when it's "straining" if I'm twisting it hard to accellerate up a hill |
| 04:14.23 | Dagmar | I *do* rather frequent spot people behind me at a light who clearly think they're behind a "slow" vehicle |
| 04:14.32 | Dagmar | Light changes, I am *p00f* gone |
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| 04:23.38 | NightHawkTheSane | amusing: http://i.imgur.com/fzyBQ.jpg |
| 04:24.05 | kdtresh | indeed |
| 04:24.20 | Kraps | this made me lol |
| 04:24.23 | Kraps | "I thought they were going to buff balanced druids, I guess a nerf is the same as a buff on opposite day." |
| 04:25.17 | kdtresh | is opposite day in effect without a wicket? |
| 04:25.45 | kdtresh | sorry, this isn't calvinball, nevermind |
| 04:26.15 | Shadowed | So it is calvinball |
| 04:27.05 | kdtresh | if only |
| 04:27.17 | Shadowed | I'm not sure what the opposite of if only would be |
| 04:27.32 | Kraps | and the QQ is on... |
| 04:28.14 | kdtresh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmM6fgL7KKI |
| 04:28.33 | Kraps | i play prot/fury so meh |
| 04:29.26 | Kraps | i pvp as prot |
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| 04:48.13 | Jerub | turns off the privacy invasion feature. |
| 04:53.21 | Jerub | absolutely facinating: http://idlewords.com/2010/03/scott_and_scurvy.htm |
| 04:57.10 | WobWork | Jerub: I need the Confident Smiles =) |
| 05:01.07 | Thunder_Child | this rather reminds me of avatar http://www.ellf.ru/uploads/posts/2010-02/1265151198_98133808.jpg |
| 05:02.12 | Jerub | WobWork: hah, i'm working on my watchful. |
| 05:06.07 | Jerub | WobWork: where do i go for 'shadowy' ? |
| 05:06.39 | WobWork | Spite |
| 05:06.41 | WobWork | I think |
| 05:16.09 | WobWork | Jerub: now I have to avoid doing any Persuasive tasks |
| 05:16.15 | WobWork | in case I fail and use up the smiles =( |
| 05:19.14 | Jerub | WobWork: i am currently investigating! and going for the good reward. |
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| 05:20.51 | kd3 | Jerub, that's something. I need to send that to a few people |
| 05:27.52 | Jerub | kd3: it is, isn'tit. |
| 05:28.10 | Jerub | i like the commentary about scott never actually conducting a proper experiement with scurvy |
| 05:28.30 | WobWork | well, from his point of view, he had no need |
| 05:28.55 | WobWork | limes had been disproven, and all apparent information pointed towards the ptolemic stuff or whatever it was called |
| 05:30.22 | NightHawkTheSane | http://fireland.tumblr.com/post/436229498/danger-xing |
| 05:30.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ also amusing |
| 05:30.45 | kd3 | looking back it's amazing at how wrong we've been on various things yet still had reasonably working models |
| 05:30.51 | kd3 | ah the fate of Science |
| 05:32.09 | Jerub | WobWork: but that's not science. |
| 05:32.11 | Jerub | that's simple hearsay |
| 05:32.38 | Jerub | WobWork: and the method of transfer of the cures were never used as variables. |
| 05:32.49 | Jerub | boiled down lemon juice = limes = lemons |
| 05:33.03 | kd3 | and gack, we've already had ~2" of rain and we've still got another day and a half of 100% chance of precip |
| 05:33.28 | Jerub | we had 90mm in an hour a few weeks ago |
| 05:34.26 | WobWork | Jerub: do you mind me hammering you with invitations? =) |
| 05:35.37 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: wth is that site? |
| 05:36.02 | WobWork | Jerub: was he trying to prove anything |
| 05:36.21 | WobWork | or was he trying to use the most recent understandings of the disease to prevent it from happening to his team? |
| 05:43.56 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: no idea, but it amused me |
| 05:51.19 | Kraps | Michael Bublé has an interesting voice |
| 05:51.56 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AJmKkU5POA |
| 05:52.51 | Jerub | WobWork: not at all. |
| 05:53.05 | Jerub | WobWork: you're getting ignored for 60+ minutes at a time because i'm in the middle of working on stuff |
| 05:53.16 | Amarande | okay, does the four letter S word annoy anyone else, too? :| |
| 05:53.44 | NightHawkTheSane | which one. there are many four letter s words. |
| 05:53.49 | Amarande | Night: "soon" |
| 05:53.51 | NightHawkTheSane | sate, soul, sign, sift |
| 05:53.53 | Kraps | snap? |
| 05:54.02 | NightHawkTheSane | slot |
| 05:54.03 | NightHawkTheSane | slit |
| 05:54.04 | NightHawkTheSane | slat |
| 05:54.06 | Amarande | I've seen entirely too many things on the net that are promised "soon" and then months and months pass and it never happens heh |
| 05:54.08 | NightHawkTheSane | slut! |
| 05:54.09 | Dagmar | s-p-a-m |
| 05:54.13 | WobWork | Snuu |
| 05:54.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: it only annoys people who are never on the producing end. |
| 05:54.42 | WobWork | only if you feel entitled =) |
| 05:54.51 | Amarande | Night: "when it's ready" is much better :) |
| 05:55.03 | WobWork | Jerub: Much appreciated |
| 05:55.04 | Amarande | see, when you say "soon", people expect a near-future time-frame to be implied |
| 05:55.12 | Amarande | if you might take longer than that, WIR is probably a better idea :) |
| 05:55.19 | WobWork | I dunno |
| 05:55.21 | NightHawkTheSane | "people expect", see, thats "people"s problem |
| 05:55.28 | WobWork | Blizzard have beaten that expectation out of me |
| 05:55.30 | NightHawkTheSane | "people" can take their interpretation of "soon" and shove it. |
| 05:55.47 | Jerub | Amarande: to let you know what i think of 'coming soon' i have to give you this |
| 05:56.08 | Jerub | http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/ |
| 05:56.33 | kd3 | oh wow |
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| 05:56.43 | Amarande | Jerub: wow, it looks like the typical Geocities page |
| 05:57.16 | Jerub | s/typical/every/ |
| 05:57.22 | Jerub | wel, like they used to look |
| 05:57.28 | Jerub | before geocities was shutdown |
| 05:57.46 | kd3 | my eyes... they bleed |
| 05:58.54 | Amarande | heh "Calculating Remaining Time: Never" |
| 06:03.38 | kd3 | the mail page is just as horrendous |
| 06:06.43 | DWSR | blah. |
| 06:07.18 | DWSR | Just burned almost 5k gold today on my DK |
| 06:08.02 | DWSR | Jerub: MY EYES, THEY BURN |
| 06:10.12 | DWSR | Anyway. |
| 06:10.18 | DWSR | I ran ToC10 tonight. |
| 06:10.23 | DWSR | And every boss dropped DPS plate. |
| 06:10.32 | DWSR | Except Anub'Arak, who dropped Crusader's Glory. |
| 06:10.50 | DWSR | Made off like a thief. |
| 06:10.54 | Jerub | DWSR: :D |
| 06:11.16 | Jerub | i ran icc25 2 weeks in a row an saurfang dropped 3x druid tokens |
| 06:11.29 | Jerub | this week was the first time i didn't roll on a token of sanctification |
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| 06:11.43 | DWSR | lol |
| 06:11.44 | DWSR | Lucky you |
| 06:11.49 | DWSR | The fucking warlock token never drops for me. |
| 06:11.54 | DWSR | I've seen it drop once, and it dropped 2x. |
| 06:12.10 | DWSR | So happy that I won it. |
| 06:12.59 | DWSR | There we like 5 paladins and 2 priests in the raid as well. |
| 06:13.25 | DWSR | It feels like the drop rate of Conquerer's token is significantly lower. |
| 06:13.30 | DWSR | Is it? |
| 06:15.18 | Jerub | DWSR: i think there's 1 token with a lower drop rate. |
| 06:16.09 | DWSR | would surprise me if it's the conquerer's. |
| 06:16.13 | DWSR | wouldn't* |
| 06:16.23 | DWSR | tbh, they have 10 fucking classes. |
| 06:16.28 | DWSR | 5 tokens, 2 classes per token. |
| 06:16.32 | DWSR | equal drop rate. |
| 06:16.34 | DWSR | CYA |
| 06:16.59 | DWSR | Having the Druid/Mage/Hunter/Shaman on one token (or whatever it is), is fucking stupid. |
| 06:17.01 | Jerub | according to wowhead it's 59, 49 and 47% |
| 06:17.05 | WobWork | Jerub: yay, can continue with my Ambition now |
| 06:17.13 | Jerub | WobWork: i don't know what ambition to get. |
| 06:17.51 | WobWork | I'm working on Watchful and Persuasive, so I went with the one that applied both |
| 06:18.11 | WobWork | It's pretty random for me, in regards to what I pick, as I have no idea how it'll affect things later on |
| 06:18.22 | DWSR | WobWork: You playing heavy rain? |
| 06:18.35 | Jerub | rogue/dk/mage/druid gets it 10% more often |
| 06:18.35 | WobWork | EchoBazaar |
| 06:19.42 | WobWork | hehe |
| 06:19.43 | WobWork | A striking, expensively dressed young woman with a scarlet headscarf and a pet monkey, they say. You'd think she'd be easy enough to find. But no-one seems to know where she lives. You'll need to build up your network of acquaintances to open some doors. |
| 06:19.54 | WobWork | My network consisting of hitting on Jerub over and over again |
| 06:19.55 | Jerub | Starveling Kitty! Starveling Kitty! Ruled the roofs of five stolen cities! |
| 06:20.10 | WobWork | Starvling Cat is awesome |
| 06:20.23 | Jerub | WobWork: my nightmares is on 5 :( |
| 06:20.28 | WobWork | Laudanum! |
| 06:20.37 | WobWork | chug like there's no tomorrow! |
| 06:20.43 | WobWork | insanity is weird |
| 06:20.51 | Jerub | WobWork: where do i get a sudden insight? |
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| 06:20.53 | WobWork | but overall not too damaging |
| 06:20.59 | WobWork | invite someone over for chess |
| 06:23.16 | Jerub | WobWork: this thing said "don't let nightmares get to 8" |
| 06:24.17 | WobWork | yeah |
| 06:24.19 | WobWork | hit 8 |
| 06:24.23 | WobWork | and you go insane |
| 06:24.30 | WobWork | and enter a state of confusion |
| 06:24.35 | WobWork | which is like an asylum |
| 06:24.58 | WobWork | You then have to work to get your Nightmares to zero before you can leave |
| 06:25.28 | Jerub | WobWork: is that awesome? or not awesome? |
| 06:25.44 | WobWork | well |
| 06:26.10 | WobWork | it's not too damaging, however you -will- lose all efforts in your recurring nightmares |
| 06:27.39 | DWSR | !g EchoBazaar |
| 06:27.40 | batbot | DWSR: Echo Bazaar! <http://echobazaar.failbettergames.com/> |
| 06:28.41 | WobWork | batbot is pretty spot on =P |
| 06:29.52 | DWSR | Twitter based game? |
| 06:29.54 | DWSR | fuck that shit. |
| 06:30.00 | WobWork | nah, not twitter |
| 06:30.03 | WobWork | not really |
| 06:30.19 | WobWork | you need it to log in, but you hardly use it aside from networking friends |
| 06:31.07 | WobWork | Jerub: here are some tips http://discworld.imaginary-realities.com/wiki/Delicious_Friends |
| 06:31.33 | Jerub | also, i have to say, BLIZZARD, DO QUEST DESCRIPTIONS LIKE ECHO BAZAAR |
| 06:31.52 | WobWork | I would totally -read- them if they did |
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| 06:32.36 | WobWork | DWSR: mechanism aside, it's one of the better written games I've seen in a while |
| 06:32.41 | WobWork | Lorewise, it's pretty deep |
| 06:33.02 | Jerub | but it's not overly verbose! it says as LITTLE as it needs. |
| 06:33.15 | WobWork | anything that can generate discussion on the level it has, in regards to the lore, is really well presented |
| 06:34.50 | Jerub | whereas in blizzard's game they seem to have a styleguide that says, "2 paragraphs, section heading, 4 paragraphs, deviations by 2-3 paragraphs upwards is okay, what you said has to be full and flowery sentences, try not to say anything too useful for actually completeing the quest" |
| 06:35.55 | WobWork | Jerub: I actually think that's in their rules |
| 06:36.21 | WobWork | of course, Blizzard are trying to immerse you more into the lore |
| 06:36.34 | WobWork | rather than making you deduce everything about it yourself |
| 06:37.07 | Jerub | WobWork: but the net result is unreadable masses of text that uses too many words to say too little. |
| 06:37.27 | Jerub | maybe if the lore came out from your actions in the world, but it seems there's two parts: Lore and Game. |
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| 06:37.36 | Jerub | and Lore only interrupts Game |
| 06:37.48 | WobWork | woo, got me some free laudanum |
| 06:37.49 | Jerub | as opposed to Game containing lore and lore containing game. |
| 06:37.54 | Jerub | what's laudanum? |
| 06:38.02 | WobWork | it reduces your Nightmares |
| 06:38.07 | WobWork | but gives you Wounds |
| 06:38.14 | WobWork | Wounds I can deal with easily =P |
| 06:38.25 | WobWork | although I've heard it doesn't work if you've gone insane once |
| 06:40.23 | airtonix | an alcoholic herbal preparation containing approximately 10% opium and 1% morphine |
| 06:44.35 | Adys | http://aruiz.synaptia.net/siliconisland/2010/03/buildj-build-configuration-for-the-mases.html |
| 06:44.36 | Adys | lawl |
| 06:44.51 | Adys | "Oh, you mean exactly like google does it already?" |
| 06:44.55 | Adys | http://code.google.com/p/gyp/wiki/GypLanguageSpecification |
| 06:44.57 | Adys | ~google++ |
| 06:46.36 | nevcairiel | He actually says in the comments why he didnt like Gyp |
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| 06:49.15 | Adys | yeah |
| 06:49.29 | Adys | and his answer is basically "but its not my project so i cant do whatever i want with it" |
| 06:49.40 | WobWork | isn't Gyp OS? |
| 06:50.00 | ZorbaTHut | "You need to learn M4/Autoconf, Automake, Make and Bash to use it properly" |
| 06:50.09 | ZorbaTHut | yeah that's pretty much the worst thing ever |
| 06:50.26 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: it depends, gnu make or bsd make? |
| 06:50.45 | nevcairiel | eh, it is pretty annoying to have to learn all that shit just to setup a build of your app |
| 06:50.48 | ZorbaTHut | couldn't tell ya, I've only used GNU make (which is an abomination) |
| 06:50.56 | ZorbaTHut | I ended up writing my own build system after I got sufficiently fed up with scons |
| 06:51.00 | WobWork | Jerub: can't do that too often |
| 06:51.13 | nevcairiel | I agree that autotools is evil, but if we need yet another tool .. |
| 06:51.22 | Jerub | WobWork: confess? |
| 06:51.40 | WobWork | well |
| 06:51.43 | WobWork | I can't accept too often |
| 06:51.46 | Jerub | oh, right. |
| 06:51.48 | WobWork | or I'll go mad =P |
| 06:52.00 | Jerub | oh, it transfers my madness to you? awesome. |
| 06:52.07 | WobWork | only if I accept |
| 06:52.12 | WobWork | if I decline, it wastes your action |
| 06:52.28 | Jerub | WobWork: meh, i just wanted my nightmares down to 4. :P |
| 06:52.29 | WobWork | did your Nightmares go down? |
| 06:52.36 | Jerub | yes |
| 06:52.41 | WobWork | by 1? |
| 06:53.06 | Jerub | yes |
| 06:57.57 | Mikk | ZorbaTHut: I have a secret wet fantasy about building a Lua based build system |
| 06:59.03 | ZorbaTHut | mikk, *cough* http://github.com/zorbathut/ursa *cough* |
| 06:59.19 | ZorbaTHut | (specialized for my needs, note, may not suit yours, not intended for easy use on all projects) |
| 06:59.30 | ZorbaTHut | (also in pre-alpha though I am hoping to get a solid 0.1 release in a month or two) |
| 06:59.32 | Mikk | hahaha awesome |
| 06:59.53 | ZorbaTHut | check out http://wiki.github.com/zorbathut/ursa/tutorial for a general idea of what I'm trying to accomplish |
| 07:00.14 | WobWork | Mikk: I misread that as "Lua baseball team" |
| 07:00.40 | nevcairiel | personally i prefer something that actually builds me a usable makefile, i don't like build systems that also build them right away |
| 07:00.51 | Thunder_Child | uh oh WobWork, what have you spawned |
| 07:01.10 | ZorbaTHut | the design of Ursa is such that it can't realistically create a makefile |
| 07:01.17 | ZorbaTHut | build targets are permitted to create branches of the build tree on the fly |
| 07:01.30 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: why "Ursa"? |
| 07:01.39 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: what have I spawned? |
| 07:01.43 | ZorbaTHut | wob, beacuse it's a bare build system. |
| 07:01.53 | ZorbaTHut | and because I was feeling in a peculiarily punny mood when I created it. |
| 07:01.55 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: a Lua baseball team. |
| 07:01.56 | WobWork | ~rimshot |
| 07:01.57 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 07:02.19 | Mikk | nevcairiel: and thus you have Gyp |
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| 07:02.34 | nevcairiel | and all other build systems like autotools or cmake =P |
| 07:02.45 | Mikk | curses & spits @ autotools |
| 07:03.11 | nevcairiel | i never really bothered to properly understand autotools |
| 07:03.16 | nevcairiel | seemed way too complicate |
| 07:03.54 | ZorbaTHut | autotools is pretty much horrifying. it dates back to a time when the only assumption you had on a unix box was /bin/sh |
| 07:04.51 | nevcairiel | some other projects i am partially involved in right now use cmake, but i don't really like it myself |
| 07:05.37 | Jerub | hand written makefiles are fine |
| 07:06.01 | ZorbaTHut | hand written makefiles work fine as long as your requirements are simple |
| 07:06.10 | ZorbaTHut | they break down rapidly when you want to do highly complex stuff |
| 07:06.24 | nevcairiel | if you depend on 3rd party libs, hand written makefiles bite you in the ass :D |
| 07:06.42 | ZorbaTHut | although so does every build system I've seen, with the exception of my own. :P |
| 07:08.08 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: but isn't that a law of build systems. |
| 07:08.11 | Jerub | "It works for me" |
| 07:08.47 | Mikk | hand written makefiles go super hairy when you have software that can be built for multiple targets with hundreds of build configuration options |
| 07:08.54 | Mikk | preferably using 3rd party libs too |
| 07:09.02 | Jerub | Mikk: well clearly you need to get new requirements then |
| 07:09.17 | Jerub | like, "someone other than me to write this" |
| 07:09.23 | Mikk | haha |
| 07:09.24 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I'm not entirely sure it is. The majority of open-source build systems are written to solve open-source problems |
| 07:09.43 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: the key thing is that they are someone else's open source problems. |
| 07:10.02 | ZorbaTHut | the vast majority of open-source programs follow a relatively simple pattern - "look at what flags I've been configured with, check to see if my required libraries exist, build objects, link objects, install a bunch of files to a place" |
| 07:10.54 | ZorbaTHut | most build systems end up designed to solve that pattern in more and more elegant ways, with Gyp and BuilDj being really prime examples of that. They're goddamn elegant . . . as long as your build process fits that pattern. |
| 07:11.11 | ZorbaTHut | if your build process not only fails to fit, but actively flaunts and defecates upon that pattern, you're kind of in trouble. |
| 07:11.23 | Mikk | haha actively flaunts and defecates |
| 07:11.37 | Jerub | http://fold.sigusr2.net/2010/03/mustache.html |
| 07:12.48 | ZorbaTHut | that's ursa's simultaneously strength and weakness - it's ultra-customizable for pretty much any crazy wacky build pattern you may have, but it simultaneously fails to provide any platform support whatsoever, with the assumption that if you're using Ursa it wouldn't really be able to automatically help you anyway. |
| 07:12.49 | Mikk | openstache-wuh-tee-eff-closestache |
| 07:13.56 | ZorbaTHut | (which isn't necessarily true but the work that would be required to provide standardized language and platform support is work that I don't have a lot of interest in doing, so) |
| 07:14.11 | Mikk | yeah my idea for a build system is basically: use full scripting language, provide utilities for declaring dependencies |
| 07:14.23 | ZorbaTHut | mikk, you may want to check out Ursa then, that's pretty much what it is |
| 07:14.41 | Mikk | yeah was looking at it now |
| 07:14.55 | ZorbaTHut | I'm actually heading off to bed right now, but if you want to take a serious look at it and let me know what you think, toss me a msg with any commentary |
| 07:14.57 | Mikk | i might actually go even more native tbfh |
| 07:15.19 | Mikk | was thinking along the lines of defining functions as build operations |
| 07:15.22 | Mikk | (possibly closures) |
| 07:15.39 | ZorbaTHut | note that ursa actually supports that, though I'm not sure I go into it in those docs much |
| 07:15.45 | Mikk | oho |
| 07:15.54 | ZorbaTHut | ursa.rule{"target", "source", function () --[[ arbitrary! ]] end} |
| 07:16.15 | ZorbaTHut | (that will actually fail because it didn't create the target, but you get the idea) |
| 07:16.21 | Mikk | nodnod |
| 07:16.59 | Thrae | Is GCD 1 seconds or 1.5 seconds without Haste? |
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| 07:17.41 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, depends on your class/stance.1.5 seconds in general, 1 second for rogues, cat druids, unholy DKs |
| 07:19.42 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: Unholy DKs? What's special about Unholy? It's a DK I'm trying to figure out using plain math, never having played a DK |
| 07:20.17 | ZorbaTHut | it's actually unholy presence I think, not anything in the talent tree. it's just one of the things unholy presence does |
| 07:20.22 | Thrae | Is it Unholy Presence? |
| 07:20.41 | Thrae | Yeah I was thinking of how to maximize Dancing Rune Weapon's addition to DPS |
| 07:20.54 | ZorbaTHut | wowhead currently gives no results for "unholy" but I'm pretty sure that's a problem with wowhead |
| 07:22.45 | Mikk | ZorbaTHut: it actually gives results in the autocomplete dropdown ... but not in the search result >.< |
| 07:22.53 | ZorbaTHut | classy |
| 07:23.01 | ZorbaTHut | anyway sleep for me now. 'nite all |
| 07:23.21 | Mikk | gnite |
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| 07:37.58 | Thrae | Alright, I think I understand this spec now |
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| 07:53.17 | nevcairiel | doesnt the unholy presence just give you 15% haste or something, not a flat gcd reduction to 1s ? |
| 07:53.55 | haste | isn't it only rogues and feral druids that have 1s GCD by "default" |
| 07:54.23 | nevcairiel | yeah, the energy users |
| 07:54.35 | nevcairiel | ah, unholy presence does it too |
| 07:54.42 | nevcairiel | must've been added after i played dk much :d |
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| 07:56.55 | nevcairiel | which seems a bit pointless, since you're rune-limited all the time anyway :d |
| 07:57.11 | nevcairiel | maybe for boost dmg in pvp |
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| 08:03.05 | Arathros | without haste its 1.5 for all i think |
| 08:03.34 | Arathros | unholy precense reduces it to 1 sec yes |
| 08:03.46 | Arathros | dunno about cat or rogues though.. seems slow as hell on my cat |
| 08:03.58 | tem | DKs don't lower their GCD with haste |
| 08:04.04 | tem | only casters do that |
| 08:04.05 | Arathros | nop unholy precense does |
| 08:04.44 | tem | Shamans, Druids (in caster, tree and moonkin forms only), Mages, Warlocks, Priests, Paladins |
| 08:05.12 | tem | rogues have 1s gcd out of the box |
| 08:05.18 | Arathros | lol thats cheat ;P |
| 08:05.25 | tem | warriors, hunters are stuck at 1.5s |
| 08:05.27 | Arathros | they should have 1.5 aswell and stack some haste |
| 08:05.44 | tem | druids in cat have 1s gcd |
| 08:05.49 | Arathros | seriously? |
| 08:05.54 | Arathros | mine seems awefull slow |
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| 08:25.34 | DWSR | ~seen Shadowed |
| 08:25.36 | purl | shadowed is currently on #wowuidev #wowace, last said: 'I'm not sure what the opposite of if only would be'. |
| 08:25.44 | Antiarc | Cats and rogues get 1 sec GCDs because the class is inherently not GCD-limited |
| 08:26.01 | Antiarc | Mana and rage (with enough gear to hit the inflection point) systems are GCD-limited |
| 08:26.12 | DWSR | Hey antiarc. |
| 08:26.18 | Antiarc | Hi |
| 08:26.22 | DWSR | I like the new features to Sexy (the spell hit debuff etc.) |
| 08:27.15 | Antiarc | Those are like 3 months old :P |
| 08:27.32 | DWSR | ah, heh |
| 08:27.38 | DWSR | I dunno, haven't noticed them till now. |
| 08:27.47 | DWSR | Though, I haven't configured it again until now. :P |
| 08:33.25 | Adys | crbug.com/26819#26 |
| 08:33.26 | Adys | sigh |
| 08:33.38 | Adys | OMG GOOGLE IS EVIL THEY ARE INSTALLING MALWARE |
| 08:33.42 | Adys | yes, im sure |
| 08:33.58 | Adys | lets disregard the fact google themselves reported the bug on their own internal build that never made beta |
| 08:33.59 | Adys | ....... |
| 08:34.05 | zenzio | hrm, for some reason Xchat doesn't recognise that URL |
| 08:34.17 | Adys | it wants http |
| 08:34.58 | zenzio | could be, but I didn't think so. Anyhow, copy and paste has been around for long enough (except on the iPhone) |
| 08:35.15 | Adys | crbug.com/26819#26 |
| 08:35.18 | Adys | http://crbug.com/26819#26 |
| 08:35.23 | Adys | notice the diff? |
| 08:35.23 | Adys | :P |
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| 08:35.45 | zenzio | odd, you're right... I must be thinking of a different program |
| 08:36.01 | Adys | you're likely thinking of some web app |
| 08:36.04 | Adys | gmail perhaps |
| 08:36.16 | zenzio | not unlikely |
| 08:36.24 | Adys | the possibility is probable |
| 08:37.01 | zenzio | so did anyone do 25-man heroic Lich King yet? (as in kill him) |
| 08:37.07 | Adys | yeah this morning |
| 08:37.17 | zenzio | who? |
| 08:37.25 | Adys | me? took me a few tries tho |
| 08:37.27 | Adys | oh |
| 08:37.30 | Adys | 25man heroic lich king |
| 08:37.55 | Adys | i read "thekal in zul gurub" for some reason |
| 08:38.01 | zenzio | haha |
| 08:38.10 | Adys | the keys are like right next to each other |
| 08:38.14 | Adys | right Kalroth |
| 08:38.55 | Kalroth | *nod*nod* |
| 08:39.13 | Kalroth | and no zenzio |
| 08:41.31 | Adys | anyone using chrome 4? |
| 08:41.39 | Adys | (some non-dev version, whatever works) |
| 08:41.49 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 08:41.52 | Adys | http://neil.fraser.name/news/2004/12/25/ |
| 08:41.54 | Adys | load this page |
| 08:41.57 | Adys | is it laggy? |
| 08:42.00 | Adys | try to select stuff |
| 08:42.28 | Thunder_Child | works fine |
| 08:42.44 | Thunder_Child | though only Silence has the snowflakes |
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| 08:42.58 | Adys | Silence of the Snowflakes |
| 08:43.02 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:43.04 | Fisker | you're not alone |
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| 08:43.50 | Adys | anyone else using an old version of chrome? |
| 08:44.06 | Thunder_Child | 4 is an old version? |
| 08:44.13 | Adys | its non-beta |
| 08:44.17 | Adys | and google products are all beta |
| 08:44.18 | Adys | so |
| 08:44.28 | Thunder_Child | mine is beta |
| 08:44.33 | Thunder_Child | or so it says |
| 08:44.50 | Adys | your sister is beta |
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| 08:46.58 | msoul | re-rolled warrior |
| 08:47.18 | msoul | quite fun to play this class with all the stance dance etc |
| 08:47.55 | msoul | i just have one problem, having difficulties capping expertise |
| 08:47.55 | zenzio | these days I only shift out of Defensive Stance if I'm testing whether I'm lagging |
| 08:48.29 | msoul | zenzio: see, my problem is my damage is in red i don't know what that means and if it's related to expertise or not "fury" |
| 08:49.15 | zenzio | your damage is in red where? |
| 08:49.28 | msoul | if i look into "C" window |
| 08:49.38 | msoul | above speed |
| 08:49.41 | Thunder_Child | paper doll frame |
| 08:49.48 | zenzio | is it red no matter which stance you're in? |
| 08:49.58 | msoul | zenzio: yeah |
| 08:50.05 | msoul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&cn=Rpbb |
| 08:50.19 | msoul | i did hit lvl 80 yesterday btw and tried my best to gear him up quickly |
| 08:50.31 | Fisker | i betatested your mom |
| 08:51.07 | zenzio | I assume you mean it's red in-game? It looks normal on the armory |
| 08:51.08 | msoul | zenzio: and to be truthful i don't know why thinking of expertise not capped as fury |
| 08:51.14 | msoul | yeah in game |
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| 08:53.59 | msoul | any idea why? related to expertise not capped? |
| 08:54.18 | zenzio | afraid I don't know; I'm a tank so my damage is always red :-p |
| 08:55.11 | msoul | really? |
| 08:55.22 | zenzio | yeah |
| 08:55.26 | msoul | Hmm |
| 08:55.34 | msoul | damage is in red in-game for tanks |
| 08:55.37 | msoul | that's weird |
| 08:55.44 | zenzio | if you're in defensive stance |
| 08:56.18 | msoul | hmm |
| 08:56.23 | msoul | i used to play as a dk |
| 08:56.35 | msoul | never heard about it before |
| 08:57.10 | zenzio | defensive stance makes you take less damage but also deal less damage |
| 08:57.40 | msoul | so i don't have to worry then :) |
| 08:57.49 | msoul | was annoyed by it no matter what i did it's in red |
| 08:57.51 | zenzio | you'd better check with DPS warriors |
| 08:58.54 | msoul | don't know any to be honest... and some thinks they're god-like in game |
| 09:00.06 | msoul | now everyone reserve an item |
| 09:00.13 | msoul | and GS |
| 09:00.28 | msoul | i don't think he wanted to make the game worse |
| 09:00.41 | msoul | it's intended for those who want to evaluate their gear |
| 09:00.47 | msoul | now no GS no raid for you |
| 09:00.55 | msoul | even for the ach "for the horde" |
| 09:04.06 | msoul | zenzio: do you have any addons you use btw for tanking |
| 09:04.16 | msoul | that displays icons in your screen to apply a,b and c |
| 09:04.55 | msoul | i've seen two on videos i jusr can't track their names |
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| 09:08.27 | Wobin | http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/21-mindblowing-hyperreal |
| 09:08.29 | Wobin | awesome |
| 09:08.52 | msoul | Wobin: do you raid these days or not so much |
| 09:08.58 | Wobin | not so much |
| 09:09.08 | Wobin | daylight savings messes up my guild's schedules |
| 09:09.22 | msoul | o i see |
| 09:09.40 | Fisker | open your eyes Wobin |
| 09:09.42 | msoul | well i solo now... just re-rolled a warior and i can't get into raids that easily |
| 09:10.02 | msoul | i blame GS :/ |
| 09:10.33 | msoul | the dk is 5518 the warrior not so much |
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| 09:11.36 | zenzio | <msoul> zenzio: do you have any addons you use btw for tanking <-- none other than normal raid addons (tank targets, threat meter) |
| 09:12.32 | Wobin | TidyPlates |
| 09:12.34 | Wobin | ThreatPlates |
| 09:12.37 | Wobin | are -awesome- for tanking |
| 09:12.56 | Wobin | it resizes the nameplates depending on if you have aggro on them or not |
| 09:12.59 | Wobin | or if you're losing aggro |
| 09:13.01 | msoul | will check them definitely |
| 09:13.09 | zenzio | the "V" nameplates? |
| 09:13.11 | msoul | warriors don't loose aggro that easily :P |
| 09:13.21 | zenzio | in AoE we can |
| 09:13.24 | Wobin | zenzio, yea |
| 09:13.31 | msoul | true |
| 09:13.32 | Wobin | in aoe, you totally can =P |
| 09:13.34 | zenzio | Wobin: interesting, never heard of those before |
| 09:13.43 | msoul | zenzio: what i do is charge/thunder clap then shockwave |
| 09:14.02 | zenzio | how you initiate it doesn't matter |
| 09:14.13 | msoul | heroic throw too |
| 09:14.27 | zenzio | if the mobs live past 5 seconds, you are likely to have aggro trouble if your group is good at multi-target DPS (or just bad at targeting the right mob) |
| 09:14.47 | Wobin | more usually the latter than the former =) |
| 09:14.54 | zenzio | yeah |
| 09:15.00 | msoul | i'm with wobin on that one |
| 09:15.11 | zenzio | just don't be too cocky about it |
| 09:15.14 | zenzio | the former happens too |
| 09:15.15 | msoul | then they go "omg tank..." |
| 09:15.29 | msoul | in pugs yeah |
| 09:15.40 | zenzio | I find it more likely in non-PUGs actually |
| 09:15.48 | msoul | o |
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| 09:15.50 | zenzio | guildies tend to know how to DPS |
| 09:15.58 | zenzio | and in raids mobs tend to live longer |
| 09:16.21 | zenzio | but it is easier now than it was in BC |
| 09:21.54 | msoul | all i am doing now is gear this toon up |
| 09:22.06 | msoul | and understand the red part in damage in game |
| 09:22.20 | msoul | as i've never seen anthing like it with any other class |
| 09:23.22 | zenzio | I think you will see it for any class if you are affected by some sort of debuff/other side effect that causes your damage to become lower than it would normally be |
| 09:23.39 | msoul | nono even if i am not doing anything |
| 09:23.58 | msoul | ll i could think of expertise not being capped |
| 09:24.11 | zenzio | I'm just saying it can happen for every class, not just warriors |
| 09:24.22 | msoul | right |
| 09:25.53 | Wobin | http://vimeo.com/8918647?hd=1 |
| 09:25.54 | Wobin | holy crap |
| 09:26.01 | Wobin | it's like a greenscreen of stars |
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| 09:53.06 | msoul | zenzio: found this on the forums |
| 09:53.11 | msoul | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=8797580726&sid=1 |
| 09:53.28 | msoul | titan's grip what causes the damage being marked in red |
| 09:54.27 | zenzio | ah, so I was right - it was an ability debuff |
| 09:55.31 | msoul | thought you meant debuff from mobs |
| 09:55.40 | msoul | but yeah it seems like it |
| 09:56.03 | msoul | leveling my one hander while reading/watching |
| 09:56.13 | msoul | if you ever want to skill up a wep this is the perfect place |
| 09:56.16 | zenzio | anything that makes your stats less effective is (in my book) a debuff, even if it's from your own ability .) |
| 09:56.22 | msoul | dreadmaul hold |
| 09:56.33 | msoul | zenzio: hehe alright |
| 09:56.36 | zenzio | pity you can't just go to Blasted Lands anymore :) |
| 09:56.45 | msoul | i am there now! |
| 09:57.00 | msoul | 396 so far |
| 09:57.09 | msoul | my hp haven't gone to half even |
| 09:57.47 | msoul | and why can't you? |
| 09:58.08 | zenzio | what I meant was there used to be mobs there that couldn't be killed except by destroying an item beside them, so you could stand there for hours bashing away at them and raising your skill |
| 09:58.14 | zenzio | but they change them so they don't give skill anymore |
| 09:58.28 | msoul | is what i am doing right now |
| 09:58.32 | msoul | this mob isn't killable |
| 09:58.37 | msoul | grol the destroyer |
| 09:58.46 | zenzio | hm, don't know about him |
| 09:58.53 | zenzio | I'm talking about the ones around the dark portal |
| 09:59.16 | msoul | i see |
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| 10:05.23 | zenzio | when I decided to level all my weapon skills to max last year, I went and did the Frostsaber repeatable quests in Winterspring |
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| 10:06.23 | msoul | just standing in one place basically |
| 10:08.35 | Wobin | awesome |
| 10:09.01 | msoul | zenzio: o btw, i haven't done all warrior quests |
| 10:09.14 | Wobin | there's a black hole in the middle of Tasmania |
| 10:09.16 | Wobin | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Waterworks+Reserve&sll=-42.911429,147.318764&sspn=0.034826,0.077162&ie=UTF8&rq=1&ev=zi&radius=1.95&hq=Waterworks+Reserve&hnear=&ll=-42.908537,147.307434&spn=0,359.922838&z=14&layer=c&cbll=-42.906271,147.297142&panoid=C_SbHTPVgqpJpS1-jRp0Yg&cbp=12,214.38,,0,-0.11 |
| 10:09.28 | zenzio | msoul: I'm not sure what you mean by that |
| 10:09.30 | msoul | zenzio: done only few one that gave the difensive stance the other for berserk stance dunno if there are more abilities from warrior uests |
| 10:09.38 | Wobin | http://bit.ly/9PRbuJ |
| 10:09.42 | Wobin | being the shorter link =P |
| 10:10.07 | zenzio | msoul: nope |
| 10:10.21 | msoul | zenzio: when i leveled there was warrior quests brutal armor, voodoo feathes, codex of defense etc.. i haven't done them all just few one gave the stance and the other one too |
| 10:10.29 | Fisker | Wobin why do we need a shorter link? |
| 10:10.33 | Fisker | I'm not sure that irc is twitter |
| 10:10.47 | Wobin | Fisker, for those who are doomed to not being able to clicklink |
| 10:10.52 | Wobin | and must copypasta |
| 10:11.00 | zenzio | msoul: well true, there were those three... but there really aren't many warrior-specific quests |
| 10:11.22 | msoul | zenzio: sweet atleast i've got the stances |
| 10:11.32 | Fisker | ah Wobin |
| 10:11.49 | Fisker | i wasn't aware that marking a long url was significantly harder than marking a short url |
| 10:11.50 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 10:11.57 | Fisker | you're losing this battle Wobin |
| 10:12.24 | Wobin | There's a battle? |
| 10:12.27 | Wobin | Perhaps only in your mind |
| 10:12.34 | Wobin | The real answer |
| 10:12.39 | Wobin | is that you do not need a shorter link |
| 10:12.43 | Wobin | but I provided one anyway |
| 10:12.50 | Wobin | because that's how I roll |
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| 10:39.52 | Fisker | i'm on a horse Wobin |
| 10:41.52 | Stanzilla | is it amazing? |
| 10:47.47 | Wobin | Fisker, You're clearly not the man my man could smell like, then |
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| 11:35.30 | Wobin | woah http://www.flickr.com/photos/alexameade/sets/72157622826164694/ |
| 11:41.39 | Wobin | also |
| 11:41.39 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFicqklGuB0&fmt=22 |
| 11:41.43 | Wobin | "CATCHPHRASE" |
| 11:51.38 | Grum | mmm youtube got a facelift? :D |
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| 11:51.58 | amro | not really |
| 11:52.34 | Grum | looks different from yesterday :( |
| 11:52.53 | olafski | haha wobin :D |
| 11:52.55 | nevcairiel | heh awesome Wobin |
| 11:52.56 | amro | you were drunk yesterday |
| 11:53.00 | Grum | amro: lies |
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| 11:53.16 | Grum | its either not loading a stylesheet or very much simplified :) |
| 11:53.49 | olafski | perhaps you didn't have the beta layout yesterday? |
| 11:54.12 | Grum | i guess you need an account for that |
| 11:54.27 | Grum | which i dont have so, no beta looks for me :D |
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| 12:05.50 | Shadowed | die comcast die |
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| 12:20.58 | Kalroth | aww |
| 12:21.06 | Kalroth | what did comcast ever do to you |
| 12:21.15 | Kalroth | its just a little ISP trying to be a nice ISP |
| 12:29.24 | Fisker | assuming direct control |
| 12:29.29 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 12:29.34 | Fisker | i need some bit.ly's for those urls |
| 12:29.48 | Wobin | Go get them yourself |
| 12:31.03 | Fisker | that's not the way you roll :( |
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| 12:31.28 | Wobin | I'm fickle |
| 12:32.01 | Kalroth | http://to./ is better |
| 12:33.01 | zenzio | I reject to. simply because I dislike the domain |
| 12:33.03 | Fisker | i actually lol'd at catchphrase Wobin |
| 12:33.28 | Wobin | ^^ |
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| 12:49.12 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXvTFSwjNts |
| 13:03.57 | Fisker | i want 2 items today Wobin |
| 13:04.15 | DWSR | http://wakoopa.com/DWSR |
| 13:04.25 | DWSR | I have somehow managed to spend 27h of time on the computer. |
| 13:04.31 | DWSR | in the last 24 hours. |
| 13:04.39 | Fisker | oh i hate you DWSR |
| 13:04.50 | DWSR | You're still here? |
| 13:05.10 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:05.57 | Shirik | DWSR: easy stuff |
| 13:06.10 | DWSR | Shirik: Not really. |
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| 13:09.30 | Wobin | DWSR, http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Nearer+My+God+to+Thee+a+cappella+/2BvL43 |
| 13:10.27 | DWSR | religion fail. |
| 13:10.38 | foxlit | Hm, either I'm losing market share, or curse is losing subscriptions |
| 13:11.18 | Wobin | DWSR, ignore the content |
| 13:11.22 | Wobin | enjoy the arrangement |
| 13:11.26 | DWSR | Can't, sorry. |
| 13:11.34 | Wobin | Most of it's in latin anyway |
| 13:11.38 | DWSR | uhuh |
| 13:11.48 | DWSR | Wobin: It's nice, but *shrug*. |
| 13:11.54 | DWSR | Gregorian Monk chants > |
| 13:12.16 | DWSR | however, as I said, religion fail. |
| 13:13.03 | Wobin | and you like Gregorian monk chants? |
| 13:13.05 | DWSR | anyway nn |
| 13:13.09 | Wobin | DWSR fail =P |
| 13:13.31 | Wobin | if you can't enjoy it for the music, you're pretty fail about it. It's not even blatant =P |
| 13:13.39 | Wobin | eg, christian 'rock' |
| 13:15.57 | Shirik | So at my school, the school gives out these temporary student IDs when you lose one |
| 13:16.05 | Shirik | I just found one sitting on the desk here |
| 13:16.10 | Shirik | obviously someone is not very good atthis |
| 13:16.56 | foxlit | Maybe they found the old one. |
| 13:17.10 | foxlit | What does your school use student IDs for, however? |
| 13:17.21 | nevcairiel | that reminds me, i need to go to school and hand in my ID |
| 13:17.21 | Shirik | access to buildings/rooms |
| 13:17.36 | foxlit | As in doors are actually locked during daytime? |
| 13:17.44 | Shirik | some |
| 13:17.55 | Shirik | for example I have access to 3 restricted labs |
| 13:18.24 | foxlit | Theoretically, we use the same thing; however, I haven't had to use the card in like the last 3 years. |
| 13:18.31 | Shirik | heh |
| 13:18.39 | foxlit | I'm not even convinced the magnetic stripe is still alive. |
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| 13:27.23 | amro | Shirik: maybe they wanted you to find it. |
| 13:27.41 | zenzio | wants to find Lopeppeppy |
| 13:29.27 | Lopeppeppy | I'm over here. |
| 13:29.40 | zenzio | there you are! |
| 13:30.00 | Lopeppeppy | Right where I left me. |
| 13:31.42 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/032010/hoboken.jpg |
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| 13:32.07 | amro | that's awesome |
| 13:34.23 | krka | yeah, totally awesome :) |
| 13:35.49 | zenzio | I don't quite get it. Is it based on some game? |
| 13:37.33 | krka | ... |
| 13:37.48 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_fighter |
| 13:37.50 | amro | zenzio, your life is incomplete |
| 13:37.54 | Wobin | it's true |
| 13:38.27 | foxlit | But how does the wiki page relate to the image? |
| 13:38.30 | foxlit | It mentions no hoboken! |
| 13:38.51 | Wobin | I guess you had to be there =( |
| 13:39.04 | amro | speaking of hobokens |
| 13:39.06 | Lopeppeppy | is hoboken singular or plural? |
| 13:39.06 | amro | http://www.instant-ramen.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/ryu_piano_move.jpg |
| 13:39.16 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadouken I'd understand. |
| 13:39.30 | amro | technically it's both Lopeppeppy, no plurals in japanese |
| 13:40.52 | zenzio | hoboken is a word? I thought it was just a name |
| 13:41.02 | Lopeppeppy | It's a city in New Jersey too. |
| 13:41.15 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:41.25 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi |
| 13:41.39 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoboken << clearly nothing interesting there |
| 13:42.18 | Shirik | foxlit: Expecting hadouken? |
| 13:42.56 | foxlit | Shirik: expecting something to justify the sign, really. |
| 13:43.44 | Wobin | This is the internet |
| 13:43.44 | Wobin | there's no justification |
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| 13:43.44 | Wobin | only interpretation |
| 13:43.44 | Wobin | (and tubes) |
| 13:43.44 | krka | hoboken sounds close enough to hadouken? |
| 13:43.44 | krka | it's not brain science |
| 13:43.49 | Wobin | or rocket surgery |
| 13:44.04 | foxlit | It'd take some rocket surgery to support that conclusion. |
| 13:44.21 | foxlit | bo vs dou? totally different syllables. |
| 13:44.24 | amro | the motion and silouhette were more than enough |
| 13:44.40 | amro | foxlit: not the way amurricans pronounce it |
| 13:45.56 | Wobin | foxlit, http://rookery2.worth1000.com/storagev12/744500/744939_b86d_1024x2000.jpg |
| 13:46.49 | zenzio | I will forever think Juggernaut/Sebudai when I hear "rocket surgery" |
| 13:47.20 | zenzio | even though I'm sure the expression is old |
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| 13:47.41 | theorbtwo | Funny, I'm thinking of Spock and Bones working on a photon torpedo, but I certianly can't think why. |
| 13:47.57 | Lopeppeppy | rawr |
| 13:48.45 | alestane | Rawr! |
| 13:48.56 | harl | rawr! |
| 13:49.03 | Wobin | rawr? |
| 13:50.39 | Lopeppeppy | Young spot is HOT. |
| 13:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | Spock. I cannot spell today for the life of me. |
| 13:50.55 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: New Film Spock? |
| 13:50.58 | foxlit | frock! |
| 13:51.04 | Lopeppeppy | Flock! |
| 13:51.06 | Wobin | for a second there Lopeppeppy |
| 13:51.09 | Wobin | I thought you meant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spot_the_Dog |
| 13:52.06 | theorbtwo | See Spot. See Spot captian. Captian Spot, captian! See Spot choke. Choke, Spot, choke! |
| 13:55.22 | olafski | lua> 5/2 |
| 13:55.23 | lua_bot | olafski: 2.5 |
| 13:55.39 | zenzio | ... |
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| 14:05.29 | Shirik | so I'm teaching a lab right now |
| 14:05.33 | Shirik | two of my students have wikipedia open |
| 14:05.43 | Shirik | I'm almost tempted to put false information there just to mess them up |
| 14:05.58 | Shirik | but I can't do that :( |
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| 14:08.00 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 14:08.06 | Kraps | GOOD DAY-SIR! |
| 14:08.20 | Shirik | GOOD DAY |
| 14:08.30 | mikma | PEW PEW RAY |
| 14:08.34 | Shirik | I don't understand how "good day" is an insult in England |
| 14:08.46 | foxlit | Good day to you, Shirik. |
| 14:08.56 | Shirik | good day to you too! |
| 14:09.11 | theorbtwo | Shirik: It's not, generally. It can, however, be done as particularly dismissive. |
| 14:09.22 | foxlit | "Run along now!" |
| 14:10.19 | Lopeppeppy | It's about whether it's a greeting, or a brush-off. |
| 14:10.47 | amro | "good day" in the same tone as "fuck off" is hilarious |
| 14:11.59 | Lopeppeppy | Ypp |
| 14:12.15 | Cairenn | it's very easy to make "good day" an insult |
| 14:13.40 | olafski | I say good day! |
| 14:14.17 | foxlit | *said |
| 14:14.52 | Kraps | You're an inhuman monster! |
| 14:15.12 | foxlit | ~google "an inhuman monster" |
| 14:15.24 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, the inhumanity of it al. |
| 14:15.32 | foxlit | 300000 matches. |
| 14:20.44 | foxlit | I wonder why I keep spelling "programme" |
| 14:20.58 | foxlit | and why my spellchecker keeps complaining |
| 14:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | your spellcheck is american. |
| 14:21.33 | foxlit | gr! |
| 14:21.52 | foxlit | I'm not sure I can actually configure it. |
| 14:26.26 | Kraps | "Charlie's reaction to Wonka declaring he would get nothing due to defying the contract ("Good day sir!") is also genuine; in rehearsals Gene Wilder (Wonka) intentionally held back how angry he would be so Peter Ostrum (Charlie) would be surprised. " |
| 14:27.00 | foxlit | did they not give the kid a copy of the script? |
| 14:27.35 | foxlit | Or perhaps it's just surprise over the delivery. Hm. That'd make sense. |
| 14:27.42 | Kraps | ^ |
| 14:27.59 | Shirik | "programme" is spelled incorrectly |
| 14:28.00 | Shirik | that is all |
| 14:28.32 | Wobin | lrn2notamericanise |
| 14:30.20 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4T9DGjGAUw&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:30.23 | Wobin | Bikini Cinema |
| 14:30.32 | Wobin | Quotes from The Big Lebowski =P |
| 14:31.16 | Wobin | I love how worked up they get =) |
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| 14:37.16 | airtonix | bloody peasants! |
| 14:37.59 | Kraps | off with his head! |
| 14:40.11 | Lopeppeppy | Pheasant can be good when roasted well. |
| 14:40.12 | Arathros | is there a vaiable to get if mob is "rare" |
| 14:40.46 | airtonix | most mobs are just peasants though |
| 14:40.53 | airtonix | angry mob justice!' |
| 14:40.59 | Arathros | unitLevel -1 = bosses |
| 14:41.24 | jnwhiteh | Hrm |
| 14:41.27 | jnwhiteh | vagina. |
| 14:41.39 | airtonix | your face? |
| 14:42.20 | airtonix | Arathros, there is a function that will tell you this |
| 14:42.29 | Gagorian | ~api UnitClassification |
| 14:42.30 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitClassification |
| 14:42.36 | airtonix | ismobplusplusgood |
| 14:42.46 | foxlit | airtonix: mobisdoubleplusungood |
| 14:42.47 | Arathros | hehe |
| 14:42.50 | Arathros | ;P |
| 14:43.03 | Gagorian | Arathros: ^ |
| 14:43.44 | Arathros | all i can say... thanks ;P |
| 14:47.16 | Milyardo | OpenGl 4.0! |
| 14:47.21 | Milyardo | \o/ |
| 14:47.30 | Milyardo | http://www.opengl.org/registry/ |
| 14:49.26 | foxlit | is dead? |
| 14:52.52 | Ginji | not yet |
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| 14:57.19 | Shirik | I'll show you my registry |
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| 15:02.11 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
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| 15:05.06 | Shirik | o.O |
| 15:05.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'm in a bad mood. Amuse me. |
| 15:06.01 | Seerah | but you were just purring |
| 15:09.07 | Cairenn | dangles a string in front of Lopeppeppy |
| 15:15.18 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh yeah, bat the dangly-bit. |
| 15:15.27 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 15:15.31 | Cairenn | how's the hand doing? |
| 15:15.37 | Lopeppeppy | Seerah, cats sometimes purr when they're *not* happy, or do you not notice that? |
| 15:15.44 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 15:16.08 | Kaso | On UnitClassification that was discussed above, what does the "trivial" classification mean? is that like critters or ? |
| 15:16.22 | Lopeppeppy | It exists, Cairenn. I take it to the physical therapist today for evaluation, see what they say about it. Doesn't hurt much at least, just don't work either. |
| 15:16.23 | Seerah | My kitty was put down about... 8 year ago. :( He was a pretty happy kitty, though :) |
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| 15:16.35 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. *hugs for Seerah* |
| 15:16.38 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: =/ |
| 15:16.42 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: and the infection? |
| 15:17.37 | Shirik | infection? :( |
| 15:17.41 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, we'll never know what that was, the lab lost my specimens. But the post-antibiotics bloodwork shows normal WBC again, so the antibiotics killed it dead. Whatever it was. :) |
| 15:17.49 | Seerah | yay |
| 15:17.57 | Cairenn | good |
| 15:18.03 | Seerah | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/womens/d3af/ |
| 15:18.05 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I got a secondary infection after my surgery, was sick as a dog, ER visits for fluids and IV antibiotics and stuff. |
| 15:18.12 | Shirik | :( |
| 15:18.15 | Shirik | you ok now? |
| 15:18.17 | Seerah | oooh - Cairenn: http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/womens/c9dc/ |
| 15:18.37 | Cairenn | want! |
| 15:18.42 | Lopeppeppy | Seems that way, Shirik. Must have just been stray germs in the hospital. |
| 15:19.01 | Shirik | what is a babydoll? |
| 15:19.11 | Cairenn | fit |
| 15:19.29 | Lopeppeppy | Snugly fit to show off the girl-chest. |
| 15:19.49 | Cairenn | want |
| 15:21.07 | Seerah | There's also a shirt that says Dungeons & Flagons (though not a babydoll) |
| 15:21.13 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 15:21.19 | Seerah | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/gaming/d730/ |
| 15:21.39 | Cairenn | that's cute :) |
| 15:22.27 | Ackis | chants LEGO! |
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| 15:24.00 | alestane | <3 babydoll Ts. |
| 15:24.21 | airtonix | Seerah, am i missing something? what does bladerunner have to do with origami unicorns ? |
| 15:24.48 | Seerah | not entirely sure... sometimes think geek descriptions are a bit random |
| 15:25.05 | Seerah | or perhaps we're not geeky enough to get the joke |
| 15:25.41 | theorbtwo | bladerunner has orgami cranes as a recurring theme, and a unicorn in the end sequence, IIRC. |
| 15:25.43 | airtonix | probably not but i've read all three volums of bladerunner and it was odd enough to make me think twice about the story and characters |
| 15:25.46 | alestane | Doesn't someone fold an origami something at some point during the movie? |
| 15:26.04 | theorbtwo | has only seen the film, not read the books. |
| 15:26.18 | airtonix | alestane, thats what i was thinking... maybe the other cop, ford? |
| 15:26.41 | airtonix | its a comment about bill gates i've decided |
| 15:27.41 | Cairenn | "For example, the origami unicorn presumably left by Gaff, leads the audience to believe Gaff knows the truth of Deckard's (lack of) humanity." |
| 15:28.16 | alestane | What do I beta-test today? |
| 15:29.30 | Ackis | lego universe! |
| 15:29.53 | Lopeppeppy | Me! |
| 15:29.56 | alestane | It's a distinct possibility...that or SC2. |
| 15:30.07 | alestane | You are in need of beta-testing, Peppy? |
| 15:30.14 | Lopeppeppy | Very. |
| 15:30.41 | alestane | scans Peppy's patch-notes. |
| 15:30.56 | Lopeppeppy | the original version of the movie didn't explain the origami animals very well, so it's confusing. Apparently in the director's cut it's more clear that the origami is related to being a replicant. Somehow. |
| 15:31.38 | Kaso | The origami unicorn is one of the most important things about the movie, if you didnt get that you need to watch harder ;p Though i degree that the director's cut does make it more explict |
| 15:32.02 | alestane | I haven't seen Blade Runner for over 15 years. |
| 15:32.17 | alestane | Last time I watched it I was a freshman in college. |
| 15:32.23 | Kaso | s/degree/agree/ |
| 15:32.48 | alestane | tests Peppy's new features thoroughly. |
| 15:33.24 | Lopeppeppy | Don't forget the Vertical Synch featuer. |
| 15:33.37 | Lopeppeppy | *feature. I cannot type today for the life of me. |
| 15:34.05 | theorbtwo | files a bugreport about Lopeppeppy's typing. |
| 15:34.06 | alestane | dangles a shiny up and down in front of Peppy's face. Does she track it closely? |
| 15:34.31 | Lopeppeppy | I'm much more likely to mangle the dangly-bits today, so I hope that's not valuable. *swipe* |
| 15:35.04 | alestane | Vertical Sync: check. |
| 15:35.11 | theorbtwo | places his laptop protectively in front of his dangly bits. |
| 15:36.54 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: you typed today perfectly |
| 15:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | Thank you for noticing. |
| 15:39.14 | Ackis | you're welcome |
| 15:39.59 | alestane | Announcer is goofy, but video is reasonably cool: http://www.fancast.com/tv/National-Geographic-s-Really-Wild-Animals/10324/701769760/Octopus-Escape/videos?cmpid=FCST_hp_xfinitytv |
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| 15:49.29 | airtonix | i remember watching some anime where the sidekick keeps leaving origami swans or cranes lying around... |
| 15:49.57 | airtonix | had a cyberpunk theme... |
| 15:50.57 | alestane | Cranes, probably, they're the archetypal origami piece. |
| 15:51.37 | airtonix | aparently the manga BLAME has been made into anime now... |
| 15:57.31 | Ackis | hah that girl that conan followed now has 25k followers |
| 15:58.03 | Lopeppeppy | poor thing |
| 15:58.26 | Ackis | from the 2 seconds I glanced at her page, it looks like she was invited to larry king or something else on CNN |
| 16:00.07 | alestane | Is there a good tool on Windows to get the cumulative sizes of folders? It doesn't seem to have the "Calculate All Sizes" of OS X. |
| 16:00.21 | alestane | I'm trying to determine where I can free up some disk space. |
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| 16:02.56 | cogwheel | alestane: WinDirStat |
| 16:03.09 | olafski | is the wowhead brokened? :( |
| 16:03.37 | olafski | alestane: I use "scanner" |
| 16:03.56 | cogwheel | oh... OS X |
| 16:03.57 | cogwheel | nm |
| 16:04.04 | cogwheel | oh nm nm |
| 16:04.09 | cogwheel | isn't awake -_-_ |
| 16:04.27 | olafski | no he wanted it on windows :P |
| 16:04.31 | cogwheel | http://windirstat.info/ |
| 16:04.34 | theorbtwo | windirstat++ |
| 16:04.35 | cogwheel | ^ hawt |
| 16:04.40 | olafski | http://130.89.168.156/temp/hd_scanner.png <-- that's what it does ;p |
| 16:04.50 | Lopeppeppy | windoze! |
| 16:04.56 | theorbtwo | I've gone through a number of that sort of tool, and windirstat is by far the best I've used for win32. |
| 16:05.04 | olafski | oh dear.. people who call it that.. lol.. |
| 16:05.06 | cogwheel | http://windirstat.info/images/windirstat.jpg |
| 16:05.20 | olafski | that looks horribly complicated :P |
| 16:05.22 | olafski | but to each his own |
| 16:05.28 | cogwheel | it isn't |
| 16:05.38 | cogwheel | once you play around with it, it's unbelievably intuitive |
| 16:06.13 | olafski | still mine looks simpler ;) |
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| 16:08.30 | cogwheel | it looks like it's just informational though... windirstat actually lets you navigate through the entire tree and do any manner of file operations |
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| 16:09.28 | olafski | scanner shows you how big each folder is, you can click on a folder to "center" on it for lack of a better word |
| 16:09.33 | olafski | e.g. make that folder span the entire circle |
| 16:09.43 | olafski | you can delete folders from the tool and that's about it I think |
| 16:10.07 | Milyardo | looks like Gnome's Disk Usage utility |
| 16:10.22 | olafski | yeah I've seen it compared to that before I think +) |
| 16:10.38 | Milyardo | http://www.simplehelp.net/images/gnome_disk_usage/gnome_disk_usage_004.png |
| 16:10.41 | olafski | every time I see a screenshot of windirstat I'm like "wtf why are all those blocks glowing" :P |
| 16:11.28 | cogwheel | opengl 4tw! |
| 16:11.29 | cogwheel | >< |
| 16:11.39 | Milyardo | cogwheel: I beat you to it |
| 16:11.49 | theorbtwo | They all tend to look quite a bit alike, because they are all trying to do the same thing. |
| 16:12.28 | olafski | apparently windirstat tries to be a file manager too ;) |
| 16:12.50 | jnwhiteh | Gah, I owe $992.87 to Social Security/Medicare =/ |
| 16:13.02 | olafski | I like how they mention "setup.exe" as a feature |
| 16:13.04 | jnwhiteh | any way to get out of this? |
| 16:13.06 | cogwheel | olafski: which is a good thing imo... Generally I'll want to manage the files/folders whose size I'm analyzing :P |
| 16:13.42 | olafski | I prefer my own file managing tools for that :( |
| 16:13.48 | foxlit | "What does "/script wipe(_G)" even do?" |
| 16:13.53 | Kaso | WinDirStat/kDirStat is much better than Gome Disk Usage |
| 16:13.55 | alestane | Haven't you been out of the country for most of the year, jnwhiteh? |
| 16:13.56 | olafski | well, my preferred tools that is |
| 16:14.07 | foxlit | "it's going to reset all of your addon settings to non-existant " << lies. |
| 16:14.15 | jnwhiteh | alestane: yes, I have |
| 16:14.19 | jnwhiteh | for 2.5 years |
| 16:14.23 | olafski | kaso: I'm sure everyone will believe you if you state your opinion as a fact ;) |
| 16:14.23 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh: if it makes you feel any better, I owe 12k :( |
| 16:14.29 | alestane | foxlit: It removes ALL keys from the global environment. |
| 16:14.33 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: =/ |
| 16:14.39 | foxlit | alestane: I don't think my addon cares. |
| 16:14.46 | foxlit | I restore SVs to global environment on PLAYER_LOGOUT |
| 16:14.49 | alestane | Oh, NVM, saw the quotes. |
| 16:15.44 | jnwhiteh | alestane: How does that get me out of paying it? |
| 16:16.15 | alestane | Are the taxes on income obtained from inside the states? |
| 16:16.17 | foxlit | More people should play sc2 EU-side. Fisker is never on. |
| 16:16.24 | foxlit | I'm not sure whether that's a blessing or a curse. |
| 16:16.37 | jnwhiteh | alestane: the source of the income is irrelevant |
| 16:16.50 | alestane | Actually, I'm just going to admit that I don't know enough about the relevant regulations. |
| 16:17.00 | jnwhiteh | I do, sadly =/ |
| 16:17.05 | jnwhiteh | just hoping someone knows more than I do |
| 16:17.43 | alestane | I just remember that I fell short of passing what they called a "physical presence test", meaning I wasn't out of the country for quite enough of the year to qualify for any exemptions. |
| 16:17.51 | jnwhiteh | that's not for social security tax |
| 16:17.53 | jnwhiteh | that's for income tax |
| 16:18.00 | jnwhiteh | and I'm of course claiming that =) |
| 16:18.10 | jnwhiteh | most people forget about the 15.3% for ss/medicare |
| 16:18.16 | jnwhiteh | if its not already taken out of their pay |
| 16:18.31 | alestane | Then I think you're going to need to consult a tax accountant, you're way over y head. |
| 16:18.34 | alestane | my* |
| 16:18.39 | jnwhiteh | yeah I don't have any of them |
| 16:18.43 | jnwhiteh | and you can't get em here =) |
| 16:19.12 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure you could pay an H&R Block rep for a phone conversation... which sounds awful. |
| 16:19.28 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 16:19.39 | alestane | How do you make that sound like a 900-# call, Peppy? |
| 16:20.40 | jnwhiteh | 'If you are a self-employed U.S. citizen or resident alien living outside the United States, in most cases you must pay SE tax. You cannot reduce your foreitgn earnings from self-employment by your foreign earned income exclusion." |
| 16:21.57 | alestane | Yeah, I suspect you couldn't escape your SS contributions without also reducing your eligibility for benefits. |
| 16:22.19 | Legorol | pity you are discussing US tax laws, I'm at least familiar with UK ones :o) |
| 16:22.21 | foxlit | I can't figure out which of the if... or... clauses applies to you |
| 16:22.32 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: it does |
| 16:22.36 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: for this portion of my income |
| 16:22.41 | foxlit | "which" |
| 16:22.43 | alestane | hides a catnip mouse under Lopeppeppy's chair. |
| 16:22.54 | Lopeppeppy | Not interesting to foxes. |
| 16:23.09 | alestane | Ah, is a fox today. |
| 16:23.17 | jnwhiteh | I'm a self-employed US citizen. |
| 16:23.21 | jnwhiteh | although that's not relevant |
| 16:23.52 | foxlit | Hm. I thought you were some sort of postdoc. |
| 16:23.53 | alestane | replaces the mouse with a chicken. |
| 16:24.37 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: I'm a doctoral student, but how does that change anything? |
| 16:25.40 | theorbtwo | Everybody's stopping "employing" people, and now are "clients" of "independent contractors". |
| 16:25.47 | theorbtwo | Why should universities be any different? |
| 16:25.55 | Ackis | lol Lopeppeppy shit you know you know |
| 16:26.02 | jnwhiteh | This isn't even remotely related to my University, nor do I see why it should |
| 16:26.20 | foxlit | If the university employed you, you probably won't be self-employed. |
| 16:26.28 | Lopeppeppy | There's a lot that I know I know, and a lot I know I don't know. *nods* |
| 16:26.50 | jnwhiteh | It shouldn't be shocking that I have independent income that's unrelated to my stipend |
| 16:27.00 | Ackis | love that post, it makes so much sense (was asked about that in an interview basically) |
| 16:30.47 | Shirik | hi Ackiepoo |
| 16:31.26 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: this is for the portion of my income that's completely unrelated to my work at the university, so I'm liable for the 15.3% self employment tax as far as I am aware. |
| 16:33.09 | Kraps | http://www.news.com.au/national/outrage-over-seven-hills-west-public-school-putting-autistic-kids-in-cage/story-e6frfkvr-1225839691640 |
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| 16:34.30 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: Mm, you're most likely right. |
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| 16:38.11 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday AnduinLothar! |
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| 16:38.53 | jnwhiteh | wonders how many people just tried to tab-complete for either AnduinLothar or KarlKFI |
| 16:39.02 | jnwhiteh | did. |
| 16:39.41 | Lopeppeppy | Why are we looking for him? |
| 16:39.56 | jnwhiteh | because we paid attention when Cairenn changed the topic =) |
| 16:40.14 | Cairenn | it's his birfday |
| 16:40.35 | jnwhiteh | Anyone here say 'sch-treet' instead of 'street'? |
| 16:40.35 | Lopeppeppy | My client doesn't print that, oh well. I already hunted him down on Facebook. :) |
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| 16:43.51 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: no |
| 16:44.13 | Kraps | l2english |
| 16:44.24 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, sweet, we took on a new software for student systems, but we dont' have anyone on staff who knows it/can program it. I'm dying laughing here. |
| 16:44.26 | jnwhiteh | I english just fine, thanks. |
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| 16:51.30 | Lopeppeppy | afk lunchings! |
| 16:54.44 | Kraps | @ undercutting QQ: Sorry, I can't hear you from way down there, my traveller's mammoth is too freaking tall. |
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| 16:55.12 | Ackis | pfft |
| 16:55.17 | Ackis | casual |
| 16:57.32 | olafski | people cry about undercutting? |
| 16:57.33 | olafski | jeez |
| 16:57.42 | olafski | "omg I was already selling that, how dare you sell it too!" |
| 16:58.22 | foxlit | People will complain about anything. |
| 16:58.46 | Ackis | I want to complain that foxlit said that |
| 16:59.13 | jnwhiteh | Fisker'd. |
| 16:59.37 | olafski | ackis: ban him from your website |
| 17:00.15 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:00.17 | olafski | maybe add some message about telling them to come to irc |
| 17:00.28 | Ackis | speaking of that |
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| 17:05.54 | Lunessa | station or something |
| 17:07.06 | Cairenn | or something |
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| 17:11.21 | nicoli_s | anyone else get in lego uni beta? |
| 17:13.08 | alestane | Patching the client now. |
| 17:15.48 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy |
| 17:15.51 | Shirik | I needs a lunch :( |
| 17:16.01 | Ackis | nicoli_s: got it yesterday! :D |
| 17:16.09 | Ackis | I pinged you aboot it eh |
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| 17:18.56 | Kraps | Lunessa: definitely something |
| 17:19.23 | Lunessa | something. Something indeed. |
| 17:19.44 | Kraps | i'm almost level 75 and still early in dragonblight |
| 17:20.01 | nicoli_s | did you ackis? didnt see that |
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| 17:24.19 | mikma | hmmh |
| 17:24.39 | mikma | i wasn't able to rocket myself out from the starting zone of lego universe :( |
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| 17:33.16 | Kraps | "they nerfed bladestorm? wah? It still pulls all aggro off the tank in a 5 man, seems to be working as intended." |
| 17:34.10 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Another site hosting addons, may want to check if yours are up without your permission: http://cot.ag/bK3CaG | Happy Birthday AnduinLothar! |
| 17:34.27 | alestane | mikma: I'm getting about 3 frames a second, not sure how much machine they expect you to have. |
| 17:37.17 | olafski | bleh wowhead doesn't work in IE nor firefox :( not properly that is |
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| 17:47.43 | alestane | That might be why LEGO universe was so wretched, my virus scan started running. |
| 17:47.44 | olafski | zomg one of my addons is on that website :P |
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| 17:49.22 | Cairenn | so send them a take down notice |
| 17:50.22 | Ackis | iirc it's a gold selling site as well, so send them a take down, or offer to let them host it if they give you 1k gold a month or something :P |
| 17:51.03 | Fisker | i'd want 100k atleast |
| 17:52.20 | durcyn | you'd have to actually write useful code too, Fisker |
| 17:53.28 | Fisker | not really |
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| 17:54.04 | Ackis | durcyn: I think Fisker needs to just be useful first before thinking about writing useful code :P |
| 17:55.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: HERE's your damn jetpack, already: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/safe-and-affordable-jetpack-just-90000/ |
| 17:55.58 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 17:56.12 | Lunessa | Already saw it :) |
| 17:56.25 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, kinda figured, but oh well :) |
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| 18:06.28 | Ackis | http://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/129127205726269773.jpg ZOMBIE KITTEN |
| 18:07.03 | Ackis | you know, everytime I link a kitten pic, I want to ping the three females in here ... I don't because I link a lot of kitten pics and they'd hurt me |
| 18:07.07 | Lopeppeppy | Zombie peppy |
| 18:08.59 | Lopeppeppy | I don't have a ping alert anyway. |
| 18:09.37 | Ackis | my browser tab flashes like thunder *snickers* when my name is mentioned, easy to ignore however |
| 18:10.05 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 18:10.29 | Ackis | oh hai |
| 18:10.38 | Thunder_Child | Thank you Ackis, i can always count on you |
| 18:10.54 | Ackis | you're welcome :) |
| 18:11.04 | Ackis | I has a shit eating grin on right now |
| 18:11.29 | Lunessa | growl alerts me when I get pinged. |
| 18:11.36 | alestane | Grr. |
| 18:11.57 | Lopeppeppy | aaargh |
| 18:11.59 | Thunder_Child | there we go back to talking about asses |
| 18:12.14 | Lunessa | Not that one alestane Growl. For Mac OSX - Very handy. |
| 18:12.55 | alestane | I don't remember if Colloquy installed it for me or not. I get little pop-up floating notes in my upper-right corner. |
| 18:13.11 | alestane | Whyfor the latest 'argh', Peppy? |
| 18:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | The X Files alien goes Grrrr. Aaaargh. |
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| 18:14.07 | alestane | I see. |
| 18:14.22 | alestane | I've only seen about two episodes of the X Files, I'm afraid. |
| 18:15.40 | Lunessa | alestane: That's Growl. Colloquy and Adium both make use of it. |
| 18:16.13 | alestane | I tried using Adium for IRC but it just doesn't measure up to Colloquy. I use it for my other chat accounts. |
| 18:16.18 | Lunessa | And it's configurable. There's a control panel for it too. |
| 18:16.23 | Lunessa | Same here. |
| 18:16.42 | Lunessa | Adium for all IM stuff, Collouy for IRC. |
| 18:16.56 | Lunessa | On Windows 7 I use Trillian Astra for everything. |
| 18:17.12 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 18:17.33 | Milyardo | irssi \o/ |
| 18:18.06 | haste | weechat \:---D/ |
| 18:19.31 | olafski | I don't really see what's wrong with more people using my addon :P |
| 18:19.34 | Lunessa | I was going to use mIRC but... /hated/ it. |
| 18:20.50 | alestane | olafski: Then upload it yourself to the place or otherwise formally permit them to host it... but allowing someone to distribute your IP without permission and ignoring the fact that they're doing so is a bad habit to get into. |
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| 18:23.35 | olafski | bleh |
| 18:23.41 | mikma | i don't get it |
| 18:23.49 | olafski | my consent is given by the fact that I don't act =) |
| 18:23.55 | mikma | are we supposed to get to the Nimbus Station in lego universe or not? :O |
| 18:24.04 | olafski | they were nice enough to even copy my description and username :) |
| 18:28.03 | olafski | they seem to have copied a whole bunch of addons from curse... shouldn't someone do something about that globally? or won't that work |
| 18:28.40 | Adys | ~amro++ |
| 18:28.46 | Lopeppeppy | Globally? What do you mean? |
| 18:29.16 | olafski | dunno.. maybe ask them to remove all addons that came from curse or something:) |
| 18:29.37 | Lopeppeppy | Response, "Prove it first", I would imagine. |
| 18:29.46 | amro | what's that? wowmatrix 2.0? |
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| 18:29.58 | olafski | lopeppeppy: on the website it says where they got it from |
| 18:30.18 | olafski | well, it says "development site: curse" or something like that |
| 18:30.33 | Lopeppeppy | If they're not deeplinking to Curse though, it's really up to individual addon authors to uphold their copyrights, I would imagine. |
| 18:31.06 | amro | olafski: that's just like people uploading copyrighted material to youtube and putting in the description "no infringement intended, this is copyrighted by X" |
| 18:31.26 | olafski | amro: does that actually mean anything? it's still infringement I assume |
| 18:31.36 | amro | exactly the point |
| 18:31.48 | Lunessa | "no copyright infringement intended" is such a joke. You still infringed. |
| 18:31.51 | amro | doesn't matter if they say where they got it form... if anything that would make things worse |
| 18:31.52 | olafski | my point was actually that there is not much to be proven since they admit they got it from curse |
| 18:32.01 | Lunessa | There is no legal protections by saying that. |
| 18:32.09 | amro | olafski: ah, I see |
| 18:32.31 | olafski | http://addons1.mmosite.com/wow/content/2009-12-06/20091206233427891.shtml <-- no link to curse but it does mention curseforge |
| 18:32.58 | amro | addons1.mmosite, that's just bursting with credibility |
| 18:33.32 | Lunessa | ... cease and desist letter time. |
| 18:33.44 | amro | yay, more addon drama |
| 18:33.51 | amro | haven't had any for a while |
| 18:34.01 | Cide | stfu amro, your addons suck |
| 18:34.21 | amro | but I try so hard! |
| 18:34.21 | Lunessa | Cide: mine too, that's why no one sees them. |
| 18:34.22 | amro | cries |
| 18:34.41 | Cide | Lunessa: mine too |
| 18:34.46 | olafski | apparently someone saw mine and found it interesting enough to copy it ;) |
| 18:34.53 | Cide | psh |
| 18:35.20 | olafski | 11 downloads! |
| 18:35.22 | olafski | eh.. hits |
| 18:35.45 | Lunessa | ... BBQ brisket enroute to the office. |
| 18:35.56 | olafski | oO |
| 18:36.23 | olafski | oh they want you to extract the files one at a time on that site |
| 18:36.34 | olafski | that'd be fun with addons that include a few libraries ;) |
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| 18:38.06 | Shirik | METAR KDAB 111753Z 15010G23KT 3SM TSRA BR BKN010 OVC017CB 21/19 A2974 RMK AO2 SFC VIS 4 SLP070 OCNL LTGICCG NE OHD-SW-NW TS NE OHD-SW-NW MOV NE P0007 60059 T02060189 10211 20194 58036 |
| 18:38.11 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 18:38.16 | Shirik | :( ^ |
| 18:38.25 | Ackis | hey is there anything good in North Dakota? |
| 18:38.28 | Shirik | YOU LIE |
| 18:38.35 | Shirik | it's definitely storming not overcast |
| 18:39.22 | Thunder_Child | ~poke Shirik |
| 18:39.23 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik, pokes Shirik repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:39.27 | Shirik | Fisker: Is this you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ragnaar |
| 18:39.30 | Shirik | hi Thunder_Child |
| 18:39.39 | Thunder_Child | hi Shirik, you didnt respond :( |
| 18:39.44 | Shirik | I just did |
| 18:39.50 | Thunder_Child | other channel |
| 18:43.39 | Kraps | Shirik: wtf is that atrocity |
| 18:43.43 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:43.46 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 18:44.55 | olafski | a polar bear |
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| 18:47.15 | Shirik | Kraps... |
| 18:47.17 | Shirik | he's |
| 18:47.20 | Shirik | talking to himself |
| 18:47.22 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ragnaar&action=historysubmit&diff=286881683&oldid=286880079 |
| 18:48.02 | Kraps | i saw |
| 18:50.51 | Kaelten | someone told me their chinese not sure if it's true though |
| 18:51.20 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23710552288&sid=1 |
| 18:52.57 | Fisker | le fu |
| 18:53.04 | Fisker | 1 item away from BiS on Normal Mode :( |
| 18:53.06 | Fisker | boooooo |
| 18:53.40 | olafski | gear is srs bsnss! |
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| 19:01.36 | Milyardo | 10 or 25 normal? |
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| 19:03.25 | haste | complete BiS usually implies 25 normal |
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| 19:22.46 | amro | ~lart Fisker |
| 19:22.46 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into Fisker's ear |
| 19:23.58 | alestane | ouch. |
| 19:24.47 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20030929.html |
| 19:25.18 | Ackis | lol they added west edmonton mall to "fastmall" an app that helps you navigate mall locations |
| 19:27.02 | Lopeppeppy | SFW? |
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| 19:27.23 | alestane | Yes, Peppy, SFW. |
| 19:27.49 | Lopeppeppy | Rosie sleeps on me. I am apparently furniture. |
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| 19:28.44 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: be glad Rosie doesn't fart |
| 19:30.05 | alestane | Because I am in an exceedingly random mood today: http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20040121.html |
| 19:30.05 | alestane | (Sung to the tune of the Lion King's "Hakuna Matata"; slightly NSFW) |
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| 19:33.14 | Ackis | I love Fark.com "Teen shoots himself in the testicles. Bet he doesn't have the balls to do that again" and "Semi overturns and spills 45,000 pounds of batteries. Driver not charged" |
| 19:34.07 | nicoli_s | their headlines are cheesily hilarious |
| 19:39.49 | Lopeppeppy | Packin up, see ya later! |
| 19:40.40 | foxlit | "Thanks, fine, see you." |
| 19:41.10 | foxlit | That reminds me of a comic I probably can't find. |
| 19:44.50 | foxlit | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1047 |
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| 20:13.19 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5490437/there-are-many-ways-to-be-fired-for-insubordination |
| 20:14.33 | Adys | Are full or empty beer bottles sturdier and does their fracture-threshold suffice to break the human skull? (Journal of Forensic and Legal Medicine) |
| 20:21.15 | olafski | I'd say testing is needed |
| 20:21.31 | olafski | statistically sound testing that is.. try at least 500 of both full and empty |
| 20:22.32 | olafski | and possibly repeat the experiment for different brands with different bottle shapes |
| 20:22.54 | Ackis | anyone here approve N4G stuff? |
| 20:23.18 | olafski | what be that :o |
| 20:23.38 | Ackis | n4g.com |
| 20:23.44 | Ackis | it's a news aggregate site |
| 20:23.52 | olafski | mkay |
| 20:29.58 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 20:30.00 | Fisker | NO! |
| 20:30.02 | Fisker | NOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 20:32.06 | Ackis | why Fisker? why?!!!!?!!!?!?! |
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| 20:43.02 | Fisker | we gonna kill lich king Ackis |
| 20:43.05 | Fisker | up yo butt |
| 20:43.19 | Ackis | wow sucks :P |
| 20:43.21 | Ackis | HAH |
| 20:43.23 | Ackis | take THAT |
| 20:43.34 | ckknight | hey all, what's the best way to get BoA items that provide +XP bonuses? |
| 20:44.10 | alestane | If you have the stomach for random dungeons, heroics. |
| 20:44.23 | Thunder_Child | does the fishing contest give xp? |
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| 20:46.09 | Arrowmaster | ok that is fucking lame, new bioshock2 dlc and its 108KB and there has not been a game update since the game was released so it was fucking on the disc the entire time |
| 20:47.59 | Ackis | yup lol |
| 20:48.29 | Ackis | was just reading about that |
| 20:48.31 | Ackis | how much did it cost? |
| 20:49.19 | NightHawkTheSane | ... wait.. they charged you.. for dlc.. that was ON the disk you BOUGHT... but not added into the game at release? |
| 20:49.36 | olafski | ye gods.. why do people keep complaining about this stuff? |
| 20:49.54 | olafski | suppose you bought a game that actually had two games on the disc, but one was encrypted and you only paid for one |
| 20:50.07 | olafski | surely you wouldn't qq about having to pay to unlock the other game? |
| 20:50.27 | Ackis | olafski: that's called being upfront |
| 20:50.32 | olafski | pff |
| 20:50.35 | olafski | you get what you paid for |
| 20:50.47 | olafski | they didn't advertise this content before, who cares |
| 20:51.02 | Ackis | they're charging $5 or w/e for something that's on my hard drive already |
| 20:51.16 | olafski | care =( |
| 20:51.18 | Ackis | if I don't unlock it, it's taking up valuable hard drive space! |
| 20:51.29 | olafski | there's something you could argue :P |
| 20:51.38 | olafski | but not that it's already yours so you shouldn't have to pay for it |
| 20:51.44 | NightHawkTheSane | actually.. what bothers me is that they had the content finished.. |
| 20:51.57 | NightHawkTheSane | but didn't add it to the game for the EXPRESS purpose of charging you for it later. |
| 20:52.02 | Ackis | olafski: you could argue you paid for it already with the original purchase of the game |
| 20:52.07 | olafski | I still don't see the problem |
| 20:52.12 | olafski | ackis: you could, but you would be wrong |
| 20:52.17 | NightHawkTheSane | this isn't "well, we want to get the game out faster, so we'll release DLC after the fact, and charge you a bit for it" |
| 20:52.19 | olafski | they clearly didn't intend for this to be in the original game |
| 20:52.27 | Ackis | they did |
| 20:52.30 | olafski | you paid for the original game |
| 20:52.33 | Ackis | it's on the retail disc |
| 20:52.42 | olafski | if they intended it to be in, it would have been in |
| 20:52.44 | NightHawkTheSane | olafski: no, they clearly DID, if it was burned onto retail disks. |
| 20:53.11 | olafski | ye gods.. why am I arguing this, i really don't care about your opinions in this stuff :P |
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| 20:53.38 | Ackis | because you know your opinion is flawed and you want to be convinced of the right answer |
| 20:53.46 | olafski | right |
| 20:53.49 | olafski | I'm 100% convinced you're wrong |
| 20:54.05 | olafski | and I doubt anything you say can convince me otherwise :) |
| 20:54.50 | Fisker | stop me Ackis |
| 20:54.56 | Ackis | no Fisker |
| 20:55.19 | Fisker | do it |
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| 21:19.52 | Kraps | wooo Panic Room |
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| 21:21.40 | Ackis | sounds like all the UDE staff just got laid off =/ |
| 21:21.54 | Dagmar | eh? |
| 21:22.07 | Ackis | wow tcg and mini's folk |
| 21:22.28 | Dagmar | Well, since no one gives a damn about baseball cards anymore, that's practically all they've left. |
| 21:23.10 | Ackis | they lost the license a while ago |
| 21:23.23 | Dagmar | Well, Blizzard announced it semi-recently |
| 21:23.36 | Ackis | that's what I meant a while ago |
| 21:23.41 | Ackis | like a month or so |
| 21:23.43 | Ackis | http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=17741 |
| 21:23.43 | Dagmar | Oh okay |
| 21:23.57 | Dagmar | For a moment there I htought you were about to tell me they managed to fumble the licence for the baseball leagues |
| 21:24.09 | Dagmar | Magic surely isn't keeping them afloat |
| 21:24.41 | Ackis | the loss of yu-gi-oh hurt them a lot |
| 21:24.52 | Cairenn | I'd love to know what caused the riff between them and Blizz |
| 21:25.04 | Cairenn | s/riff/rift/ |
| 21:25.07 | Dagmar | Probably the taint of RMT |
| 21:25.38 | Dagmar | That and TCGs are anything but "fair". Let's be honest about that. |
| 21:25.44 | Dagmar | He who has the most disposable income wins. |
| 21:26.07 | Ackis | from what I saw with the wow TCG decks they weren't that expensive to make |
| 21:26.09 | nicoli_s | god i havent played a TCG in years |
| 21:26.10 | Ackis | mini's were cheaper |
| 21:26.39 | nicoli_s | i used to play the shit outta pokemon tcg :P |
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| 21:27.13 | Ackis | I didn't realize you were that young nicoli_s |
| 21:27.26 | Fisker | stop me nicoli_s |
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| 21:29.01 | nicoli_s | Ackis: 25 this haloween |
| 21:29.59 | Ackis | nicoli_s: for some reason I associate pokemon stuff with even younger, but my fiancee is that age and she played them as a kid, I never got involved with them at all |
| 21:30.06 | Ackis | http://live.xbox.com/en-CA/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=xMOBxEVERLASTx <-- I got his GS reset |
| 21:30.16 | Thunder_Child | i did, but that was because i worked at WotC |
| 21:30.35 | Ackis | that would've been interesting |
| 21:30.45 | Dagmar | Ackis: Some haxor kiddie? |
| 21:31.02 | Ackis | yeah |
| 21:31.11 | Dagmar | A shame we can't just have them killed |
| 21:31.20 | Thunder_Child | i remember one weekend a pokemon fair thing came through the mall....it was horrible....and the disturbing part was there were far more adults at this thing than kids |
| 21:31.31 | Ackis | if you're gonna cheat, don't do it on a MMO where no one has the game complete. |
| 21:31.46 | Shadowed | or you know |
| 21:31.48 | Shadowed | cheat better! |
| 21:32.45 | Ackis | nah the moron came into a thread on the official forums bragging about how he has 100% complete in Final Fantasy XI |
| 21:33.11 | olafski | lol |
| 21:33.22 | Thunder_Child | i like the fact that the 'find out more' link is a dead end |
| 21:33.49 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: I laughed at that |
| 21:34.02 | Dagmar | You mean XIII, right? |
| 21:34.08 | Dagmar | Or was there a distribution problem? |
| 21:34.29 | Ackis | XI the MMO |
| 21:34.33 | Ackis | you can play it on the XBox |
| 21:34.38 | Dagmar | Oh |
| 21:35.12 | Dagmar | I'd forgotten about those people and their link shells |
| 21:36.58 | Ackis | Thread in question: http://forums.xbox.com/27748091/ShowPost.aspx |
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| 21:38.45 | olafski | ackis: it was reset and he's at 9.5k now already? :o |
| 21:39.25 | Dagmar | I notice the floor shakin a bit |
| 21:39.51 | Dagmar | That rumbling in the air... could it be the BanHammer coming down on that kid from low earth orbit? |
| 21:40.01 | Dagmar | Hmmm.... |
| 21:40.25 | olafski | heh, first he brags then he's coming up with all kinds of excuses to back out of it :P |
| 21:40.55 | Dagmar | If he was so bold as to start cheating his GS right back up, he's screwed |
| 21:41.23 | Dagmar | Seems like the xbl mods are feeling their oats after the recent epic banhammer incident and the literal worldwide applause it brought |
| 21:41.35 | Ackis | olafski: I don't know why it's at 9.5k, I didn't see any games on his played list |
| 21:41.47 | olafski | ackis: I assume it was higher before? |
| 21:42.00 | Ackis | yeah a lot higher |
| 21:42.00 | olafski | hehe it even says this stuff on his gamertag, nice |
| 21:42.28 | olafski | does show a lot of games played when I click on him |
| 21:42.37 | olafski | 500/1500 skate 2, 425/1000 mw2 etc |
| 21:42.42 | Dagmar | He's been flagged a cheater to be sure |
| 21:43.16 | olafski | none of his current achievements have dates |
| 21:43.27 | Ackis | he's probably gamesaving again |
| 21:43.30 | Ackis | or hex editting |
| 21:43.35 | olafski | from the ones I'm checking anyway |
| 21:44.25 | olafski | what an idiot :P |
| 21:44.25 | foxlit | sigh, nested lists are an annoying thing to parse |
| 21:44.25 | foxlit | (especially in wiki markup) |
| 21:44.25 | Dagmar | Might be that they let him keep the ones with times on them |
| 21:44.41 | olafski | dagmar: well, look for instance at his end war achievements.. 1100/1250, none of them have dates |
| 21:45.24 | olafski | how do I report this guy? =) |
| 21:45.44 | Dagmar | lol my gs is 770 |
| 21:45.47 | Dagmar | I didn't even realize I HAD one |
| 21:45.51 | olafski | hrhr |
| 21:46.00 | Ackis | olafski: in-game or you PM a mod I think, I had a boosting friend report him for me |
| 21:46.02 | Dagmar | Looks like they been spyin' on me |
| 21:46.04 | olafski | are you on a 360? or just from a couple of games for windows |
| 21:46.13 | olafski | ah |
| 21:46.14 | Dagmar | It's gotta be Windows Live |
| 21:46.20 | Dagmar | I owned a 360 for all of a day |
| 21:46.21 | olafski | isn't boosting against the TOU? |
| 21:46.28 | Ackis | I have this artful guy on my friends list, he never wants to play against me |
| 21:46.35 | olafski | you can see which games you got achi's for dagmar =) |
| 21:46.40 | Ackis | olafski: boosting isn't because you're doing the actions to get the achivement |
| 21:46.41 | olafski | sounds like a cool guy ackis |
| 21:46.47 | olafski | hmmkay |
| 21:47.01 | olafski | I finished the second episode of doom now |
| 21:47.09 | olafski | just two more to go, one level a day :) |
| 21:47.41 | Ackis | I'm gonna finish off crapsiders tonight I think |
| 21:48.00 | olafski | I'm never gonna "finish" doom I think=) |
| 21:48.03 | olafski | nor most other games |
| 21:48.06 | Dagmar | Doom has episodes now? |
| 21:48.43 | Ackis | it came out on XBLA |
| 21:48.51 | Dagmar | OH |
| 21:48.55 | olafski | chapters.. whatever it's called |
| 21:48.57 | Fisker | i came out on you Ackis |
| 21:48.58 | Dagmar | Okay. |
| 21:48.59 | olafski | there are 4 of them :) |
| 21:49.10 | Dagmar | That and the first Wolf I played so much I barely needed to look at the screen anymore |
| 21:49.13 | olafski | just the stuff that was in the old game |
| 21:50.13 | Kraps | the BLIND wow movie is pretty awesome still |
| 21:50.57 | Kraps | the animation is crazy good |
| 21:52.06 | Ackis | olafski: you have 2 friends on true achievements! |
| 21:52.34 | olafski | wtf |
| 21:52.44 | olafski | stop stalking me on that achievement whoring site :P |
| 21:52.45 | Ackis | StingX2 and me |
| 21:52.50 | Ackis | no! |
| 21:52.51 | olafski | I didn't even sign up |
| 21:52.56 | Ackis | I know you didn't :D |
| 21:53.00 | olafski | same with that facebook shit.. I had like 10 friends before I signed up |
| 21:53.08 | Ackis | This user has not yet registered and will only be scanned once per week |
| 21:53.24 | Ackis | I think I added you to facebook, I hit a button saying "add all msn contacts to facebook" |
| 21:53.24 | olafski | I'll send them a mail asking to remove me |
| 21:53.46 | olafski | yeah I think you did |
| 21:53.59 | olafski | dunno why I signed up there |
| 21:54.12 | olafski | we have a dutch site that does the same, everyone in holland uses that instead of fb |
| 21:55.28 | Ackis | regardless, I will keep on stalking you on true achievements :P |
| 21:56.26 | olafski | I get like one achievement per week |
| 21:56.28 | olafski | why bother >_< |
| 21:56.51 | Ackis | I get a different colour badge if I have more friends ;) |
| 21:57.06 | olafski | now I'm definitely going to ask to be removed |
| 21:57.11 | Ackis | hahah |
| 21:57.39 | olafski | at least 360voice has a nice blog |
| 21:58.41 | Ackis | apparently I'm in the 100 day streak club on 360voice |
| 21:58.52 | olafski | I removed stingx2 from my friends list |
| 21:59.08 | Ackis | did you know him? |
| 21:59.41 | olafski | yes |
| 21:59.49 | olafski | well, he was in the gamerdna channel on irc |
| 21:59.58 | Ackis | ah |
| 22:01.29 | olafski | dagnabbit wowhead, work! |
| 22:01.57 | olafski | anywho, stingx2 kept doing the "message to all" thing, bothering me with all sorts of crap I don't care about |
| 22:02.06 | olafski | he's one of those booster types so you might like him |
| 22:02.19 | Ackis | haha |
| 22:02.28 | Ackis | I just like to get achievements for games I'm playing :P |
| 22:02.39 | Ackis | I like the 100% completion because you get an icon on the xbox :( |
| 22:02.56 | olafski | an icon on the xbox? :s |
| 22:02.58 | olafski | never seen that |
| 22:03.10 | olafski | haven't looked for it either I guess |
| 22:03.38 | Ackis | I don't remember where it shows up tbh |
| 22:03.48 | Adys | Shirik |
| 22:03.54 | Adys | little quizz for you (or anyone really) |
| 22:03.55 | kd3 | damn it, it it rains it pours |
| 22:03.55 | Ackis | but it annoys me that NHL 2k7 will never be there and that I have to get the DLC for Borderlands for it to show up |
| 22:03.58 | olafski | I have a couple of completed games.. eventually I decided I have better ways to spend my time |
| 22:04.05 | kd3 | grrs at his windshield cracking for no apparent reason |
| 22:04.19 | Adys | What is the most efficient way to store non-boolean values in a 32 bit integer |
| 22:04.20 | kd3 | gonna cost me ~$170 to replace it |
| 22:04.27 | Adys | as in, say, values between 1 and 10 |
| 22:04.51 | foxlit | upside down, I say |
| 22:05.26 | olafski | gonna play some more doom |
| 22:05.57 | Ackis | have fun! get some achievements! :P |
| 22:06.33 | Dagmar | adys: You can still pack them into nybbles I suppose |
| 22:06.53 | olafski | ackis: in a week perhaps.. once I finish episode 3 |
| 22:06.55 | olafski | Inferno! |
| 22:07.01 | Ackis | lol |
| 22:07.25 | Adys | I have values between 1 and 10 inclusive, I want to store as many as possible in a single 32 bit integer |
| 22:07.29 | Adys | Find out how, find out how many |
| 22:07.29 | olafski | sent my message to trueachievements too.. wonder if they'll do it |
| 22:07.48 | Dagmar | Four |
| 22:07.49 | Ackis | if I notice you're gone I'll readd you, don't worry :P |
| 22:07.56 | Dagmar | er no wait, eight of them |
| 22:08.15 | olafski | ackis: I assume _if_ they remove me, they'll also block me from being added again |
| 22:08.17 | Dagmar | I should have grabbed a calculator before I attempted simple math in my head |
| 22:08.28 | olafski | also I'll remove you from my f list if you do that |
| 22:08.31 | olafski | cya tomorrow =) |
| 22:08.32 | cbreak | Adys: you could try compression. If you do slicing by bits, you can assume 4 bits per number |
| 22:08.37 | Adys | And here is another twist |
| 22:08.48 | Ackis | olafski: you don't have to be on my ingame friend list to be added to TA :P MEANIE |
| 22:08.51 | cbreak | so in a 32 bit integer, you can put 8 of |
| 22:08.54 | Dagmar | Lemme guess, you're not allowed bit-shift operations |
| 22:08.55 | Adys | Find out the different, most efficient ways between: |
| 22:09.00 | olafski | ackis: I know, they're not related.. just saying I'll do that |
| 22:09.00 | Adys | - An ordered, non-unique list |
| 22:09.13 | Adys | - A non-ordered, unique list |
| 22:09.16 | cbreak | but if you do it in decimal, you can store more |
| 22:09.19 | Adys | - A non-ordered, non-unique list. |
| 22:09.27 | Adys | third is probably not possible |
| 22:09.27 | Ackis | olafski: that's why I called you a MEANIE |
| 22:09.39 | Adys | Dagmar: you are allowed whatever you want to |
| 22:09.40 | olafski | hey, you have the power to prevent it |
| 22:09.47 | olafski | cya =) shotgun time |
| 22:09.47 | Adys | as long as you can programmatically describe it |
| 22:09.54 | Ackis | olafski: NO U |
| 22:09.55 | cbreak | 9 |
| 22:10.32 | cbreak | by the way, values from 1 to 10 have 3.3 bits of entropy |
| 22:11.13 | cbreak | so 9.6 is the most you can put into 32 bit |
| 22:11.50 | Adys | cbreak: those wouldnt be ordered, and would be unique; right? |
| 22:12.05 | cbreak | ordered they would be |
| 22:12.11 | cbreak | you can address the values directly |
| 22:12.13 | Adys | hm yes |
| 22:12.20 | cbreak | anyway |
| 22:12.27 | cbreak | you MIGHT be able to store more with entropy coding |
| 22:12.30 | cbreak | but that's not reliable |
| 22:12.33 | Adys | Think about packing something like |
| 22:12.38 | Lunessa | " You can expect Dalaran to remain at its current location for the foreseeable future. " |
| 22:12.45 | Adys | "1, 4, 8, 3, 1, 3, 5" |
| 22:12.50 | Adys | into a 32 bit integer |
| 22:13.07 | Adys | (make it as long as you want to) |
| 22:13.19 | cbreak | do you want it general? |
| 22:13.28 | Adys | how so? |
| 22:13.37 | cbreak | if you want to store numbers from 0 to 9 in a general 32 bit integer |
| 22:13.43 | cbreak | just make a decimal number |
| 22:13.51 | cbreak | and store it in the integer like normal decimals |
| 22:13.57 | cbreak | so store it as 1483135 |
| 22:14.12 | Adys | yeah ofc, im just trying to find out if i can store more than that :) |
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| 22:14.33 | cbreak | not in general |
| 22:16.31 | cbreak | you can store multiple numbers in one integer |
| 22:16.36 | cbreak | if they are short |
| 22:17.39 | Adys | cbreak: I wouldnt be able to store 10, either way |
| 22:17.47 | cbreak | you would |
| 22:17.50 | cbreak | store it as 0 |
| 22:17.54 | cbreak | :) |
| 22:18.01 | Adys | and then I wouldnt be able to store 0 =P |
| 22:18.07 | cbreak | you said from 1 to 10 |
| 22:18.11 | cbreak | not 0 to 10 |
| 22:18.20 | Adys | kay, 1 to 11 :P |
| 22:18.40 | Adys | the major issue here also |
| 22:19.00 | Adys | is that I can't always shift places in the list if it's full |
| 22:19.03 | DWSR | ~seen ZorbaTHut |
| 22:19.04 | purl | zorbathut is currently on #wowuidev (1d 15h 15m 18s). Has said a total of 34 messages. Is idling for 14h 56m 3s, last said: 'anyway sleep for me now. 'nite all'. |
| 22:19.06 | Adys | I'd need a leading 1 or 2 at best |
| 22:19.15 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: poing. |
| 22:19.20 | cbreak | if you want 1 to 11 |
| 22:19.24 | cbreak | use base 11 numbers |
| 22:19.57 | Adys | hm I wonder |
| 22:20.00 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=49495;47500 <-- Which one for a DK tank? |
| 22:20.10 | Adys | the first one |
| 22:20.11 | DWSR | cbreak: Or just use hex? |
| 22:20.13 | Adys | its id is higher |
| 22:20.16 | DWSR | lol |
| 22:20.17 | Adys | it must be better |
| 22:20.33 | cbreak | hex uses 4 bits of entropy per digit |
| 22:20.46 | foxlit | lua> function c(n, ...) return n and (n + 11 * c(...)) or 0; end print(c(0,1,2,3,4)); |
| 22:20.48 | lua_bot | foxlit: 62810 |
| 22:20.50 | cbreak | base 11 only around 3.5 |
| 22:21.27 | Adys | storing 0 is tough, foxlit |
| 22:21.39 | Adys | particularly a leading 0 |
| 22:21.52 | cbreak | not really |
| 22:21.56 | foxlit | In this case, I think you'll find it's the trailing zero that's a problem. |
| 22:22.01 | foxlit | But hey, store a count. |
| 22:22.10 | cbreak | storing zeroes is no problem |
| 22:22.10 | Adys | mm |
| 22:22.12 | foxlit | lua> function d(n) while n > 0 do print(n % 11) n = (n - n % 11) / 11; end end d(62810); |
| 22:22.12 | lua_bot | foxlit: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4 |
| 22:22.14 | cbreak | storing empty is |
| 22:22.29 | Adys | i dont need to cbreak |
| 22:22.39 | cbreak | then just consider every number valid |
| 22:23.17 | Adys | foxlit: how many can you store like this? |
| 22:23.26 | Adys | in a 32bit uint |
| 22:23.35 | cbreak | I said before |
| 22:23.36 | cbreak | 9 |
| 22:23.37 | foxlit | lua> math.floor(2^32/11) |
| 22:23.38 | lua_bot | foxlit: 390451572 |
| 22:23.49 | foxlit | heeey, that doesn't work |
| 22:24.10 | cbreak | 3.46 bits of entropy per digit |
| 22:24.14 | foxlit | lua> math.floor(math.log(2^32)/math.log(11)); |
| 22:24.17 | cbreak | so 32/3.46 |
| 22:24.17 | lua_bot | foxlit: 9 |
| 22:24.25 | cbreak | -> a bit over 9 |
| 22:24.46 | Adys | cbreak: does that account for the fact the leading number can be one of the higher ones? |
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| 22:24.59 | cbreak | what do you mean? |
| 22:25.04 | cbreak | "leading number"? |
| 22:25.12 | Adys | lua> function c(n, ...) return n and (n + 11 * c(...)) or 0; end print(c(9,1,2,3,4,3,2,1)); |
| 22:25.15 | lua_bot | Adys: 23576265 |
| 22:25.43 | Adys | mm maybe Im just dreaming |
| 22:25.51 | cbreak | it encodes things of from 1 to 11 in a number |
| 22:26.05 | Adys | yeah i can see that |
| 22:26.12 | cbreak | the resulting number is encoded |
| 22:26.18 | Dagmar | I'd have concerns about treating a float as a bit field |
| 22:26.26 | olafski | finished my level for today ackis! 7 minutes while the par time was 0:45 :D |
| 22:26.40 | foxlit | Dagmar: it's a double. |
| 22:27.01 | Dagmar | Either way it would incur the machine doing a bit more work than just a simple bitfield calculation |
| 22:27.14 | cbreak | it's slow |
| 22:27.26 | DWSR | You're slow. |
| 22:27.27 | foxlit | I don't think anyone is suggesting using floats in actual code. |
| 22:27.28 | Dagmar | I'm not sure if ram should actually be considered _quite_ that precious |
| 22:28.34 | ckknight | Dagmar: as long as you use 53 bits or less, it's fine. |
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| 22:29.06 | Adys | anyone decent with postgres? |
| 22:29.13 | DWSR | ahaha |
| 22:29.15 | DWSR | ahahah |
| 22:29.17 | DWSR | ahaha |
| 22:29.21 | DWSR | postgres. |
| 22:29.36 | cbreak | that method is useful to extract random numbers of arbitrary precision from a random 32 bit number |
| 22:29.38 | ckknight | DWSR: what's your problem? |
| 22:29.46 | Adys | I'd like to know as well |
| 22:29.48 | cbreak | but you have to be careful when getting invalid numbers |
| 22:29.56 | Adys | are you trying to say mysql is better than postgres? |
| 22:29.58 | DWSR | No. |
| 22:29.58 | ckknight | Adys: I might be able to help, depending on the problem |
| 22:30.08 | DWSR | I didn't say anything was better than anything. |
| 22:30.12 | DWSR | Just saying the word postgres. |
| 22:30.15 | Adys | ckknight: I'm trying to transform an int into an auto field |
| 22:30.17 | DWSR | It's funny. |
| 22:30.30 | Adys | ckknight: it's already unique throughout the table but not enforcedf |
| 22:30.31 | Adys | -f |
| 22:30.33 | ckknight | Adys: well that's just a constraint, I think. |
| 22:30.46 | ckknight | Adys: serial is the same as int with the extra stuff |
| 22:30.56 | ckknight | might be under triggers |
| 22:30.59 | ckknight | I'm not sure, tbh |
| 22:31.15 | ckknight | I'd make a new table with a serial column, see what it does |
| 22:31.28 | Adys | I got one, sec |
| 22:31.40 | ckknight | then just copy the trigger |
| 22:31.54 | Adys | ah |
| 22:31.57 | Adys | its in default value |
| 22:31.58 | Adys | nextval('owdb_trainedspell_id_seq'::regclass) |
| 22:32.03 | ckknight | yep |
| 22:32.11 | ckknight | yea, that makes sense |
| 22:32.45 | ckknight | yea, you make a new sequence |
| 22:32.52 | ckknight | give it the proper value |
| 22:32.57 | ckknight | then change the default value of that column |
| 22:33.06 | Adys | i wonder how it determines how to show it as serial though |
| 22:33.32 | ckknight | serial is just a convention |
| 22:33.33 | ckknight | ;-) |
| 22:33.41 | Adys | yeah i meant in pgadmin |
| 22:33.44 | ckknight | yea |
| 22:34.10 | Kraps | THE TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE - Trailer :10 Preview |
| 22:34.20 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.33 | ckknight | oh Edward... |
| 22:34.42 | Kraps | oh theres a full trailer |
| 22:35.08 | Adys | hm |
| 22:35.11 | Kraps | <--- team Jacob |
| 22:35.15 | Adys | i need to create the serial relation |
| 22:35.27 | Adys | dammit Im sure i saw something to change an int into serial earlier on |
| 22:35.40 | nicoli_s | oh god, not more twilight crap |
| 22:36.26 | Dagmar | Meddle not in the affairs of children, because they are whiny and are sure they are really goth. |
| 22:36.41 | Kraps | werewolves ftw nicoli_s |
| 22:36.43 | Dagmar | Twilight is what happens when you don't beat your emo kid. |
| 22:37.14 | Dagmar | In related news, the local goth club has finally formally banned "Crow" makeup. |
| 22:37.26 | DWSR | Crow? |
| 22:37.26 | Adys | ckknight: meh, I think ill just recreate the table |
| 22:37.38 | Dagmar | DWSR: Yes, as in the movie "The Crow" |
| 22:38.01 | Dagmar | Usually they wind up using clown white and then apply a lot of black "whatever" to make the dribbly diamond around the eyes |
| 22:38.08 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Twilight is what happens when middle-aged moms aren't getting what they need in the sack. |
| 22:38.25 | Dagmar | To date, every single person trying that has failed to look even a little bit menacing or mysterious, which is why they finally banned it |
| 22:38.47 | Dagmar | Lunessa: If middle-aged moms are into that, I just don't wanna know |
| 22:39.32 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Considering that the author is a 40-something mom, yes. And the 30-something crowd is more into those books/films than the tweens. |
| 22:39.43 | Dagmar | No they're not. |
| 22:39.58 | Dagmar | If they actually read the books, they'd be over it like that *snaps fingers* |
| 22:40.04 | Dagmar | The writing is dreadful. |
| 22:40.29 | Dagmar | It's one of the few cases where a book made into a film results in an improved product. |
| 22:40.49 | Kraps | Dagmar: but but edward is soooo godly *googly eyes* |
| 22:41.49 | DWSR | Don't you mean |
| 22:41.52 | DWSR | *glitter* |
| 22:42.03 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Obviously you know very different 30+ women than I do. |
| 22:42.43 | Dagmar | Pfft. I'm thinking I should give you my number to pass onto these women |
| 22:42.46 | Kraps | i still maintain that the 4th book is the best |
| 22:42.52 | DWSR | Kraps |
| 22:43.00 | DWSR | I lost all my respect for you with those wordsw.\ |
| 22:43.08 | Kraps | DWSR: im serious |
| 22:43.16 | Dagmar | If they want someone that's metro, they can have that _and_ manly stoicism. |
| 22:43.20 | Dagmar | No need to deal with broody emo kids |
| 22:43.25 | DWSR | Kraps: ME too. |
| 22:43.43 | Kraps | the half thats from jacobs pov is win |
| 22:43.57 | Kraps | total change in tone |
| 22:44.07 | Lunessa | All I can say is ... Never going to read it. |
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| 22:48.27 | Thrae | So I was thinking if I could use macros and maybe Dominos to allow a spammable Mangle during Berserk. |
| 22:49.39 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/03/11/funny-pictures-small-kittehs/ |
| 22:49.39 | DWSR | Thrae: Yeah, you probably can. |
| 22:51.32 | Thrae | DWSR: Yeah, but here I'm talking about one macro effecting another macro...hmm. I need to re-read wowwiki on macros in 3.2. |
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| 22:54.13 | Kraps | zenzelezz: the comment section always hurts my eyes |
| 22:54.42 | zenzelezz | don't read it :-p |
| 22:55.15 | Kraps | :p yourself |
| 22:55.48 | DWSR | lol |
| 22:55.57 | DWSR | I love gearscore morons. |
| 22:56.13 | Dagmar | Someone asked for a 6k gearscore? |
| 22:57.10 | DWSR | "You're wearing blue pants!" "Yeah, and I just did 5k DPS and beat you with you in all 245+". |
| 22:57.15 | DWSR | Dagmar: lol |
| 22:57.15 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 22:57.44 | Dagmar | Someone was prolly too busy looking at nelf porn to clik buttons |
| 22:58.09 | DWSR | porncraft crits you |
| 22:58.24 | Kraps | nelfs are ugly |
| 22:58.42 | Kraps | draenei is where its at |
| 22:59.33 | DWSR | mmm. |
| 22:59.34 | DWSR | Tail. |
| 22:59.49 | Dagmar | Speaking of... What's with the casual response Fordring had to Bolvar in that FMV sequence? |
| 22:59.55 | DWSR | ?? |
| 23:00.06 | DWSR | Fucking Movie? |
| 23:00.08 | Dagmar | DWSR: have you not yet been to the fountain in Dalaran? |
| 23:00.12 | DWSR | ~acro FMV |
| 23:00.16 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yes, I have... |
| 23:00.51 | Kraps | casual? |
| 23:01.00 | zenzelezz | full-motion video? |
| 23:01.05 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 23:01.09 | Dagmar | So like, Bolvar was killed by toxins, then burned to ash by dragons, right? |
| 23:01.13 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yes. |
| 23:01.34 | DWSR | He got poisoned by the plague at the Wrathgate. |
| 23:01.36 | Dagmar | He shows up looking somewhat burninated, and Tirion Fordring barely even notices |
| 23:01.45 | DWSR | Then Keristraza pulleda Scorched Earth. |
| 23:01.51 | Dagmar | He's still trying to convince Bolvar to go out kicking ass with him |
| 23:02.07 | DWSR | Dagmar: "out ass kicking" |
| 23:02.09 | Dagmar | I *thought* being dead was pretty serious business |
| 23:02.17 | DWSR | Dagmar: This is Sparta!!! |
| 23:02.19 | DWSR | I mean... |
| 23:03.07 | Dagmar | I'm not even addressing the why or how of Bolvar still being ambulatory--that sort of death tends to invariably lead to such things in stories, but Tirion should have at least looked a *little* suprised |
| 23:03.25 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: Bolvar, like many burn victims, aren't too keen to go around in public |
| 23:03.27 | DWSR | Dagmar: This is *Tirion* we're talking about. |
| 23:03.33 | DWSR | Dagmar: He doesn't even cast Consecrate. |
| 23:03.35 | zenzelezz | *isn't |
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| 23:04.10 | zenzelezz | you know, I preferred Tirion when he was just staying in EPL |
| 23:04.17 | Kraps | "lolol ima put on that helmet and save teh world" tirion logic fail |
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| 23:04.37 | Kraps | arthas had a good idea one too |
| 23:04.43 | DWSR | Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onWY4Q0hIjU |
| 23:04.43 | Kraps | once* |
| 23:04.50 | DWSR | In reference to not casting consecrate. |
| 23:04.51 | Dagmar | Yes, and instead he puts it on the head of someone who _claimed_ to be Bolvar.. and doesn't even think to consider if this might be a bad move |
| 23:05.19 | Dagmar | There might be some snickering 'lock offstage chuckling to himself and muttering "noob! i has ur hat nao!" |
| 23:06.09 | Kraps | Dagmar: you know that you can hear Bolvar right at the beginning of ICC |
| 23:06.21 | Dagmar | eh? How so? |
| 23:06.43 | DWSR | Dagmar: Opening RP. |
| 23:06.47 | DWSR | "NEVER! I WILL NEVER SERVE YOU!" |
| 23:07.00 | Kraps | ^ |
| 23:07.06 | Dagmar | I'll have to pay more attention the next time I'm in there |
| 23:07.27 | Dagmar | Why would he serve when he can talk Tirion into just handing him the magic hat anyway |
| 23:08.33 | Kraps | the LK does his standard "BWAHAHAHA YOU WILL SERVE THE ONE TRUE KING" not realizing that _Simba_ is the one true king |
| 23:08.44 | DWSR | rofl |
| 23:08.52 | A-KO | Dagmar: Point made though, just because you can hear Bolvar doesn't mean it's Bolvar :P |
| 23:09.47 | Dagmar | Well, I guess things will get more complex as time passes |
| 23:09.47 | cbreak | it's a hologram |
| 23:09.49 | cbreak | a recording |
| 23:09.53 | cbreak | an imposter |
| 23:10.15 | Dagmar | Like we'll find out that's not acutally Bolvar, but another one of those meddlesome dragons pretending to be hime |
| 23:10.30 | Jerub | freaking dragons. |
| 23:10.33 | cbreak | it's... ILIDAN! |
| 23:10.34 | DWSR | "Help me Tirion Fordring, you're my only hope!" |
| 23:10.44 | A-KO | or the resurrection of Arthas after his body died :P |
| 23:10.47 | Jerub | you know, i prefer other fantasy where dragons are just hording raping and pillaging loners. |
| 23:10.48 | Dagmar | For being supposedly superior beings, they sure spend a lot of time watching afternoon soap operas |
| 23:10.53 | Jerub | in wow they're meddlesome bastards. |
| 23:10.59 | zenzelezz | let's see... WoW 4.0: Cataclysm. WoW 5.0: Maelstrom. WoW 6.0: Emerald Dream. WoW 7.0: Return of Bolvar? |
| 23:11.03 | Dagmar | Jerub: Yes, not busy-body gossip wranglers |
| 23:11.05 | DWSR | lol |
| 23:11.07 | A-KO | I bet we'll see the dream next |
| 23:11.09 | A-KO | after cataclysm |
| 23:11.19 | Jerub | wow 7.0? |
| 23:11.22 | Kraps | CATA WILL KILL WOW |
| 23:11.25 | Jerub | man, i don't want to think about. |
| 23:11.29 | A-KO | haha |
| 23:11.37 | Dagmar | Jerub: There'll be T-cam and dual mouse support |
| 23:11.40 | Jerub | Kraps: wait, i thought casual gamers were killing wow. |
| 23:11.56 | A-KO | I wish they would do some single player RPG sidestories |
| 23:12.00 | A-KO | but I guess the books suffice enough |
| 23:12.08 | A-KO | if you enjoy reading... |
| 23:13.24 | nicoli_s | Ackis: who is letting air out of your tires? |
| 23:13.45 | Dagmar | Mr. Brown and his Brownian "motion" |
| 23:16.38 | WobWork | Damn him |
| 23:16.40 | WobWork | twitches |
| 23:17.12 | Jerub | WobWork: hello delicious friend. |
| 23:17.23 | WobWork | Jerub: btw, you can head to the Carnival and drink hot wine to reduce nightmares |
| 23:17.46 | WobWork | good morning delicious friend |
| 23:18.00 | WobWork | but you increase with scandal if you fail |
| 23:18.05 | WobWork | (50% chance either way) |
| 23:18.45 | Jerub | WobWork: i'm finding the website really slow |
| 23:20.27 | Dagmar | You guys might wanna reconsider that nickname for each other |
| 23:21.24 | Jerub | Dagmar: i wish you were my delicious friend. |
| 23:21.30 | Jerub | but you don't play echo bazaar :( |
| 23:22.07 | Dagmar | Oh yes... http://www.pvponline.com/ |
| 23:22.21 | Dagmar | jerub: I'm seriously considering checking that game out actually |
| 23:22.37 | Dagmar | Mainly because they're not running banner ads that look like they're running a porn site |
| 23:22.56 | Kraps | i really hope Ysera doesnt "go mad" |
| 23:26.30 | Jerub | WobWork: i muffed an investigating challenge :( |
| 23:27.57 | WobWork | Dagmar: it's worth it |
| 23:28.02 | WobWork | it's really quite fun |
| 23:28.31 | WobWork | and any porn they have, is positively decadantly Victorian in nature =P |
| 23:28.59 | DWSR | spoiler alert, imo. |
| 23:29.08 | WobWork | Jerub: =( You didn't take the second option and have to start right from the beginning, did you? |
| 23:29.18 | Jerub | WobWork: that's what i did! |
| 23:29.25 | WobWork | DWSR: pft, you're not playing, are you |
| 23:29.34 | Jerub | WobWork: however both my watchful and shadowy are over 10 now so they're all easy challenges. |
| 23:29.36 | DWSR | WobWork: BUT WHAT IF I WANTED TO START? |
| 23:29.36 | WobWork | was it you that poohpoohed the Twitter requirement? |
| 23:29.47 | WobWork | I recall someone did, needlessly |
| 23:29.47 | DWSR | WobWork: Yeah. :P |
| 23:29.52 | WobWork | do you use Twitter? |
| 23:29.56 | DWSR | Not really. |
| 23:30.01 | WobWork | Then why complain =P |
| 23:30.05 | DWSR | I have an account, never use it. :P |
| 23:30.10 | WobWork | pft |
| 23:30.58 | WobWork | so what's the big sacrifice? =P |
| 23:31.23 | WobWork | Jerub: noooo =( |
| 23:31.28 | Lunessa | Which game are we talking about? |
| 23:31.34 | WobWork | echobazaar |
| 23:31.53 | WobWork | Jerub: I'd've only tried it if I had a Sudden Insight to back me up |
| 23:32.10 | WobWork | Lunessa: http://echobazaar.failbettergames.com/ |
| 23:32.22 | Dagmar | WobWork: I've never used Twitter, actually. Not because I dislike it, but because I have no need for it. |
| 23:32.23 | Jerub | WobWork: i have 5... |
| 23:32.25 | Lunessa | Already found it. And you're enjoying it? |
| 23:32.29 | WobWork | absolutely |
| 23:32.39 | Jerub | WobWork: it's a skill check against 'investigating' not one of the core skills. |
| 23:32.43 | Thrae | WobWork: Are you never *not* at work? Do you work from home or some such? |
| 23:32.54 | DWSR | Thrae: yes, he is. |
| 23:33.16 | WobWork | Dagmar: the only actual reqirement for the Twitter, is to keep track of who you can interact with ingame, and for 10 free actions every 24 hours |
| 23:33.20 | WobWork | Thrae: =( |
| 23:33.20 | Thrae | s#never#ever# |
| 23:33.34 | DWSR | encoding fail? |
| 23:33.40 | WobWork | from 9 to 6 or 7 |
| 23:33.42 | DWSR | anyone else see those as hash marks? |
| 23:33.43 | WobWork | is my workday |
| 23:33.47 | Thrae | purl is spammy |
| 23:33.55 | WobWork | DWSR: I did, but I assumed it was purlavoidance |
| 23:34.02 | Thrae | sed accepts any delimiter except those obviously blacklisted |
| 23:34.23 | WobWork | I just would have excluded the closing slash |
| 23:35.00 | WobWork | Thrae: it could be your waking pattern just matches my workday well =P |
| 23:35.04 | Thrae | It would be cool if purl could pick up on the Someone:, see that they're in the room, and notice the change to them. |
| 23:35.30 | WobWork | on the what? |
| 23:35.31 | Thrae | WobWork: Wait, do I remember you being an aussie? |
| 23:35.36 | WobWork | You do |
| 23:35.46 | Thrae | Well that'll explain it |
| 23:35.54 | WobWork | I'm an hour and a half into my workday already |
| 23:36.14 | Thrae | However, /seen Wob doesn't give me a last seen, hmmm... |
| 23:36.17 | Thrae | ~seen Wob |
| 23:36.19 | purl | wob <n=Wobin@203-206-178-228.perm.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 542d 18h 39m 5s ago, saying: 'means I have to disconnect if I want to change to it'. |
| 23:36.32 | WobWork | ~seen wobin |
| 23:36.33 | purl | wobin <~Wobin@124-168-153-130.dyn.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9h 5m 17s ago, saying: 'I love how worked up they get =)'. |
| 23:36.34 | Thrae | ~seen Wobin |
| 23:36.35 | purl | wobin <~Wobin@124-168-153-130.dyn.iinet.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9h 5m 19s ago, saying: 'I love how worked up they get =)'. |
| 23:36.47 | WobWork | hehe, Bikini Cinema comment |
| 23:37.07 | Thrae | You must be back in your EFNet days with WobWork instead of WobinWork |
| 23:37.28 | Thrae | Or even *gasp* Wobin|work |
| 23:37.31 | WobWork | I felt "wobwork" rolled off the tongue more |
| 23:37.39 | zenzelezz | I'd have to agree with Wob here |
| 23:37.51 | Thrae | I think that's nostalgia |
| 23:38.21 | Thrae | WobWork: Anyway, ask a stupid MrPlow question? |
| 23:38.28 | WobWork | the trials and tribulations of having a multisyllabic nick |
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| 23:38.39 | WobWork | Thrae: Sure. "Why did MrPlow cross the road?" |
| 23:38.48 | Fisker | to bang your mom |
| 23:38.53 | WobWork | ~rimshot |
| 23:38.54 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 23:39.06 | WobWork | Thank you Bart |
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| 23:39.52 | Thrae | WobWork: Can I disable the minimap button in some saved settings or do I need to go into the lua and route it out? |
| 23:40.02 | Dagmar | First step: Generating a Twitter account--done! |
| 23:40.21 | WobWork | um sure. |
| 23:40.29 | WobWork | There are instructions on the wowace comments |
| 23:40.52 | Thrae | Ah, I downloaded it from WowInterface |
| 23:41.10 | WobWork | hm, that may not be the latest version |
| 23:41.11 | Thrae | Well the latest update |
| 23:41.31 | Thrae | I also use the Curse Client when I'm feeling lazy |
| 23:41.41 | Thrae | But recently I find that doesn't work too well |
| 23:42.23 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:42.28 | WobWork | MrPlow is no longer on WowI |
| 23:42.50 | WobWork | it got lost in the Great Addon Black Hole of <Insert Year Past Here> |
| 23:43.03 | WobWork | and I haven't reupped it as it's not a complete version |
| 23:43.29 | WobWork | as I ran into my usual brick wall of UI |
| 23:43.45 | WobWork | Come Easter, I might have some time to work on it |
| 23:43.49 | WobWork | (yay 10 day weekend) |
| 23:43.53 | Thrae | WobWork: Mr. Google, keeping MrPlow in Beta forever ;) |
| 23:44.17 | Thrae | Just blame it on Matt Groening if things go wrong |
| 23:45.42 | Thrae | WobWork: By the way, random question -- what was the change to the UI that made MrPlow super-fast? |
| 23:45.45 | Fisker | oh my god |
| 23:45.49 | Fisker | people must be seriously insane |
| 23:46.02 | Fisker | Some guy argued that Blizzard didn't want to put up FCM for their realm to save money |
| 23:46.20 | Fisker | I told him that was just stupid as hell as they don't actually lose money on setting up character transfers |
| 23:46.28 | Thrae | Fisker: Faction Change Management? |
| 23:46.34 | Fisker | free character migration |
| 23:46.37 | Thrae | Ah |
| 23:46.41 | Fisker | So now he says that it costs money to make the scripts and initiate the transfer |
| 23:46.44 | Fisker | .............................. |
| 23:47.10 | Thrae | Well, technically he's right, but that's not the point of Free Transfers |
| 23:47.30 | Dagmar | It's to spread the lameness around evenly |
| 23:47.37 | Thrae | Exactly |
| 23:47.46 | Fisker | well they already made them Thrae |
| 23:47.50 | Fisker | so that's a retarded argument |
| 23:48.04 | Thrae | Fisker: Already made what? |
| 23:48.07 | Fisker | and if he's going to argue that the person putting it up gets wages, then he does that regardless of FCM or not |
| 23:48.16 | Fisker | character transfer services |
| 23:48.27 | Fisker | They don't make a new service for each time someone has to transfer |
| 23:48.27 | Thrae | Oh, you mean the paid variety? |
| 23:48.31 | Fisker | no |
| 23:49.04 | Cide | Fisker is saying setting up FCM is more or less like connecting the realm dots and clicking Go |
| 23:49.10 | Fisker | But either he's arguing that the service itself costs money to setup(which it doesn't because it ALREADY is set up) or he argues that the person pushing some arbitrary button to enable it costs money(which he still does regardless) |
| 23:49.22 | Fisker | exactly Cide |
| 23:50.02 | Thrae | Yeah, but I don't believe Blizzard's database works that way. I am betting each transfer adds more headaches for its thoroughly aged database mechanics. |
| 23:50.19 | Thrae | As for why they charge you, that's just the money, yeah |
| 23:50.34 | Kraps | you know that changing Darrowmere to pve part of a plan by blizz to lose customers so they can shut wow down? |
| 23:51.02 | Thrae | But the real reason they don't allow Migrations on every realm is to avoid Over-Migration |
| 23:51.06 | Fisker | Yeah |
| 23:51.08 | Dagmar | What other restraint could they possibly put on a character transfer? |
| 23:51.17 | Thrae | But I don't think Fisker was talking about that |
| 23:51.22 | Fisker | I also heard that Blizzard is crashing Tarren Mill on purpose so that players will get angry and cancel their subscriptions |
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| 23:51.36 | WobWork | Thrae: Coroutines, and the sudden understanding that the locking only occurred on items moved, so I could binary sort the inventory |
| 23:51.37 | Fisker | That way they apparently, according to the crackheads @ TM, earn more money that way |
| 23:51.46 | Dagmar | Could they perhaps set up public flogging stations, where you are to recieve 20 lashes to prove you have a good reason to transfer? |
| 23:52.07 | Thrae | WobWork: Ah, so it wasn't an actual upgrade on Blizzard's part? Well done then! |
| 23:53.12 | Kraps | Fisker: wait i think thats where i read it |
| 23:53.20 | Thrae | Dagmar: If transfering were simple, they would probably give more incentives to transfer and/or faction change, especially for guilds, but that they don't makes me think it is part of their notorious database problems |
| 23:53.48 | WobWork | Thrae: Gbank sorting is also in place, but more risky with Blizz not actually reporting information as required, so stuff may endlessly loop near the end |
| 23:53.55 | Dagmar | I think they've got population stability in mind |
| 23:54.08 | Thrae | WobWork: Thankfully I have little access to GBanks |
| 23:54.25 | Thrae | Dagmar: There's *stability* and then there's *balance*. |
| 23:54.30 | Dagmar | That and the idea that a transfer is going to cost some money is the only think keeping a bunch of the kiddies from rather quickly lapsing into seeing who can be the biggest asshole, all the time |
| 23:55.03 | Dagmar | If it wouldn't cost them some real money from their allowance, a lot more of them would already be the biggest jerks they could think up how to be |
| 23:55.16 | WobWork | indeed |
| 23:55.36 | WobWork | although, I'd like them to put the realm/faction transfer fee on a sliding scale |
| 23:55.41 | Dagmar | Thrae: You know how fickle and prone to believing practically _anything_ the idiots are |
| 23:55.44 | WobWork | depending on population balance |
| 23:55.46 | Thrae | I think one of the problems is also Blizzard's notorious "don't talk to people" policy |
| 23:55.54 | WobWork | that way the ones they -really- want rebalanced will be 'free' |
| 23:56.10 | Thrae | If Blizzard could setup a dialog with big guilds, that could seriously help population issues |
| 23:56.14 | Fisker | The issue is that Tarren Mill has had some pretty bad crash/lag issues the past few weeks |
| 23:56.16 | Dagmar | I mean, how many times have people with serious chops said "disabling Nagle is not a good idea" and yet there's a measurable and VOCAL faction of dipshits making ludicrous claims about how much it "helped" them |
| 23:56.16 | Fisker | yeah Thrae |
| 23:56.22 | Dagmar | ...and thusly, more idiots disable it. |
| 23:56.23 | Fisker | But they basically said "fuck that, it takes time" |
| 23:56.27 | WobWork | and unbalanced, but popular factions will be cheaper to transfer to than the overbalanced side |
| 23:56.28 | airtonix | if blizzard could give me lots of money then i would be really happy |
| 23:56.34 | Thrae | Well it's more of an EQ approach |
| 23:56.36 | Fisker | even though they used to have a semi-official service like that in classic |
| 23:56.39 | Dagmar | Now imagine if some idiot kids started talking up how lag-free their server was... |
| 23:56.48 | Dagmar | ...and that there was no barrier to trasnfers. |
| 23:56.51 | Thrae | Blizzard has been rather interactive with their communities in the past, but I think the EQ influence took over |
| 23:56.57 | WobWork | I should start a campaign saying BLackrock is totally lag free |
| 23:57.11 | airtonix | WobWork, i will not support you in that effort. |
| 23:57.17 | Thrae | Dagmar: Oh, I wasn't talking about *no* barriers to transfers, I was talking about *smarter* transfers |
| 23:57.28 | Dagmar | Conversely, completely fine servers could be depopulated by a simple campaign to complain that it's overloaded |
| 23:57.32 | Thrae | Anyway, this may all be mute |
| 23:57.43 | WobWork | moot? |
| 23:57.49 | Thrae | Come Cataclysm, I bet we'll see even more cross-server implementations |
| 23:58.09 | Fisker | crossrealm AH and crafting trade systems please |
| 23:58.13 | airtonix | server merge by any other name |
| 23:58.21 | Fisker | also various services through the mailbox could be neat |
| 23:58.36 | WobWork | they should take the opportunity to replace entire server hardware setups |
| 23:58.40 | Thrae | airtonix: Pretty much, but I don't think their DB is ready for that |
| 23:58.41 | WobWork | like the aformentioned Blackrock |
| 23:58.42 | Dagmar | I would be more for cross-realm AH than I would be bot-friendly iPhone AH access |
| 23:59.07 | Fisker | heh i'm almost thinking that Blizzard will go batshit insane and charge per transaction |
| 23:59.08 | WobWork | move the realm onto completely new hardware |
| 23:59.43 | Thrae | WobWork: That doesn't work if the current implementation has lot of "heavy waits", which I bet it does |
