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| 00:07.55 | Kraps | and makes you feel stoopid |
| 00:08.39 | Jerub | some friends of mine who lived in a big share house once had a guy walk 15 minutes around really annoying fractcal streets to knock on the front door to ask the couple who were shagging in the bathroom with the window open to not do that please because his kids and his kids friends had been watching. |
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| 00:09.42 | Dagmar | Jerub: Probably would have been simpler to just tell them the URL for their new website |
| 00:09.53 | Jerub | Dagmar: :D |
| 00:09.58 | Dagmar | You would, of course, need to offer them a discount on membership. |
| 00:16.52 | Kraps | hugs tome of cold weather flying |
| 00:18.49 | Jerub | Kraps: isn't it awesome? |
| 00:19.06 | Jerub | "oh, I hvae to talk to THAT GUY behind all those other level 75 mobs? sure!" *fly* |
| 00:19.57 | Kraps | i just hit NR |
| 00:20.16 | Jerub | Kraps: oooh, do the explore thing. 2000xp per zone. |
| 00:25.55 | foxlit | you can usually get away with it because of heirlooms, but I find that flight (and stealth) tends to wreck the amount of XP you gain through levelling |
| 00:26.25 | foxlit | The ending is dangerously close to not making any sense. |
| 00:26.43 | foxlit | s/levelling/normal quest progression/ |
| 00:26.49 | Adys | Shadowed |
| 00:26.53 | Shadowed | Adys |
| 00:26.53 | Adys | or anyone familiar with git |
| 00:27.01 | Shadowed | I'm good at breaking git, what's up |
| 00:27.02 | Adys | what do you recommend for a decent git gui? |
| 00:27.08 | Shadowed | For Windows? |
| 00:27.11 | Adys | linux |
| 00:27.16 | Shadowed | Not a clue, I use command line |
| 00:27.30 | Adys | no explorer integration, just to view branches/logs shit like this |
| 00:27.37 | Adys | mostly an "I cba to install gitweb" |
| 00:27.52 | Shadowed | tekkub might know |
| 00:27.57 | Shadowed | he knows all |
| 00:29.19 | Adys | qgit |
| 00:29.20 | Adys | hurray |
| 00:34.01 | DWSR | foxlit: Flight really breaks Quest progression |
| 00:34.31 | DWSR | foxlit: Though, it's still pretty broken anyway, seeing as lots of the areas now have more quests than they need to level people through them, even without heirlooms |
| 00:34.35 | DWSR | This, it's not really an issue. |
| 00:34.47 | DWSR | s/This/Thus/ |
| 00:35.50 | DWSR | foxlit: Flight, I think, actually somewhat helps quest progression in that it removes the XP you'd get from travelling on foot between areas. |
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| 00:36.15 | DWSR | foxlit: However, it definitely does more harm than good. |
| 00:36.21 | foxlit | My point, if I had one, was that you tend to gain more XP per zone on characters that can't bypass content |
| 00:36.59 | Dagmar | That depends on whether or not you view level progression as some kind of "trial by fire" where quests are intended to be unavoidable |
| 00:37.14 | DWSR | foxlit: Yeah, that's probably true. Most people don't bother with things they don't absolutely have to do |
| 00:37.17 | foxlit | Had to finish Netherstorm and move on to SMV on my druid before hitting 70; mage was 70 when entering netherstorm |
| 00:37.19 | Dagmar | There's not a lot of _total_ XP to be gained by flying all over Northrend |
| 00:38.02 | DWSR | Dagmar: On the other hand, what about being able to fly through areas like Dragonblight or Borean Tundra? |
| 00:38.13 | DWSR | Having just done it not too long ago, you avoid so much by being able to fly. |
| 00:38.31 | Dagmar | I was too busy hoovering up XP to notice |
| 00:38.41 | Dagmar | I didn't get cold weather flying on my DK until 78 |
| 00:38.41 | DWSR | Dagmar: I'm leveling a tank. |
| 00:38.53 | DWSR | Mind you, he has dual spec. |
| 00:38.56 | DWSR | But it's 2 tank specs. |
| 00:38.59 | Dagmar | Might have been 79 actually |
| 00:39.07 | DWSR | I had CWF at 68 |
| 00:39.07 | WobWork | Tank and TANK? |
| 00:39.22 | DWSR | WobWork: DW/2H |
| 00:39.38 | Dagmar | I know I only got about 1/3 of the way through Zangarmarsh before it was time to leave Outlands |
| 00:39.44 | frontendloader | what the fuck |
| 00:39.51 | DWSR | Dagmar: YEah. |
| 00:39.52 | frontendloader | who added Ensida quotes |
| 00:39.55 | frontendloader | to bigwigs |
| 00:40.03 | WobWork | ? |
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| 00:40.22 | DWSR | Dagmar: I got most of the way through, but I was definitely stretching the content. |
| 00:40.22 | WobWork | Grizzly Hills is almost entertaining with flight |
| 00:40.33 | WobWork | without... it's a slog =P |
| 00:40.50 | WobWork | also, Instant Flight Form is total hax, no matter where you are (that can fly) |
| 00:41.03 | Dagmar | That, I would agree with. |
| 00:42.00 | Dagmar | I don't really see exploration XP gained from flying as screwing anything up |
| 00:42.11 | Dagmar | For one, it's generally less XP than you'd get for just _killing people_ |
| 00:42.27 | Dagmar | ...and for the other, it's rather limited. |
| 00:42.30 | DWSR | Significantly less. |
| 00:42.32 | DWSR | And yes, that |
| 00:42.49 | Dagmar | I'm not certain but you *might* be able to squeeze a level out of it if you did the whole place at say, 68 |
| 00:43.07 | foxlit | Dagmar, I think you're trying to make sense of the opposite |
| 00:43.24 | foxlit | Being flight-capable earns you *less* XP than the alternative |
| 00:43.40 | Dagmar | They've put an XP penalty on people who can fly now? |
| 00:43.50 | DWSR | no |
| 00:43.51 | foxlit | They kill less things. |
| 00:44.02 | foxlit | And therefore they get less XP. |
| 00:44.07 | Dagmar | I mean, sure you can fly out into the middle of the ocean where the XP sucks, but that's entirely player-driven |
| 00:44.30 | Dagmar | foxlit: I still had entire zones nearly untouched when I hit 80 with both toons |
| 00:44.32 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59671 <-- Can someone please fucking explain this shit, btw? |
| 00:44.34 | foxlit | "Do I fight my way to the NPC, or do I land on top of him?" |
| 00:44.42 | Dagmar | I generally didn't even bother killing people not on "my list" |
| 00:44.50 | Dagmar | I just blew past them on my goat. |
| 00:45.05 | Dagmar | If they were still following me when I stopped, it's a bad day to be them. |
| 00:45.08 | DWSR | foxlit: The question really becomes "Do I earn XP at a faster rate by skipping around to objectives, or by fighting to everything" |
| 00:45.19 | DWSR | foxlit: You'll find the answer is definitely the former. |
| 00:45.19 | Kraps | ^ |
| 00:45.32 | Dagmar | I'd say XP would at least be subjectively slower if you had to _grind_ your way to each and every location |
| 00:45.32 | foxlit | XP/time is boring |
| 00:45.48 | foxlit | XP/zone is also boring, but is what I was talking about. |
| 00:45.55 | Dagmar | Probably actually slower as well, considering that questing yields more XP/hour |
| 00:47.11 | Adys | pokes Cide |
| 00:48.03 | Dagmar | I vaguely recall spending about a half hour trying to find a way to snag _all_ those horses in one go |
| 00:48.04 | Cide | hi |
| 00:48.12 | Dagmar | ..._after_ I'd turned in the quest |
| 00:48.21 | Adys | Cide, I'm vaguely pondering the most efficient way to compile a stringblock |
| 00:48.40 | Dagmar | Adys: Illegal immigrant labor |
| 00:49.22 | Cide | compile? |
| 00:49.51 | Adys | Ill explain in a min, trying to finish up this example code |
| 00:50.04 | Cide | ask in #python, I'm going to bed! |
| 00:50.15 | Adys | you suck |
| 00:51.18 | Adys | nevcairiel: :( |
| 00:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | Tee hee, can't wait until THAT rumor hits the ex!!! (my ultrasound for other issues has been cast in a childbearing light) |
| 00:54.20 | Cairenn | ROFL |
| 00:54.41 | Lopeppeppy | That took... 6 hours, max. I'm impressed. |
| 00:55.20 | Cairenn | someone is suggesting that you had an ultrasound because of pregnancy? |
| 00:55.49 | theorbtwo | Bad news travels fast, I guess. |
| 00:55.52 | Lopeppeppy | And how indecent is it of me so soon after the divorce is final, le gasp!! Nevermind that TKFT's girlfriend is due with their kid in March. |
| 00:55.59 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:55.59 | Lopeppeppy | Or Aprilish. |
| 00:56.15 | Lopeppeppy | Geez, nothing else better to do than natter! |
| 00:56.25 | Adys | I'm feeling completely violated |
| 00:56.30 | Adys | peppy is being more random than me |
| 00:56.33 | Lopeppeppy | My plumbing is broked! *cries* |
| 00:56.43 | Lopeppeppy | Adys, old news is old. |
| 00:56.49 | Cairenn | oh, but Lopeppeppy, it's fine for a MAN to go deal with his 'needs' |
| 00:57.04 | Cairenn | but a woman? SLUT! |
| 00:57.21 | Adys | Cairenn: that's not necessarily a bad thing! |
| 00:57.48 | Adys | & too tired for this, night all |
| 00:57.53 | Lopeppeppy | pokes Adys with a hacksaw, conveniently left over after the Quik attempt. |
| 00:58.06 | Adys | too late, I'm already in bed |
| 00:58.18 | Cairenn | night Adys |
| 00:58.20 | Lopeppeppy | Serial killers kill people in bed too, yaknow. |
| 00:58.38 | Adys | it's a good thing I'm not a serial killer then! |
| 00:59.23 | Shadowed | Adys: Good news is, if Lopeppeppy can't open a bottle with a hacksaw, she can't injure you |
| 00:59.29 | Cairenn | thinks Adys definitely needs to go to sleep, he's completely missing things |
| 00:59.35 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: You tried to open a tub of quik with a hacksaw? |
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| 00:59.42 | Shadowed | She tried many tings! |
| 01:00.11 | Adys | Cairenn: maybe it's a good thing you're not a serial killer either. |
| 01:00.12 | Cairenn | not a tub |
| 01:00.20 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, I totally did, but then I decided that the hacksaw was way too dirty and I wouldn't drink the milk afterward... so I stopped. |
| 01:00.28 | Lopeppeppy | Same with melting a hole in it with my glue gun. |
| 01:00.33 | Cairenn | a little individual serving size of pre-mixed |
| 01:00.42 | Lopeppeppy | A wee baby bottle!! |
| 01:00.44 | Shadowed | haha Lopeppeppy |
| 01:01.08 | Adys | Lopeppeppy |
| 01:01.11 | Adys | here's how I'd do it |
| 01:01.21 | Shadowed | I can't help and laugh at your failure, sorry Lopeppeppy |
| 01:01.37 | theorbtwo | Cairenn: Aha, makes more sense now. |
| 01:01.45 | Adys | put it in liquid nitrogen for 30 seconds |
| 01:01.45 | Lopeppeppy | It's got some slapstick 3 stooges, I admit it, Shadowed. |
| 01:01.48 | Adys | smash it to bits |
| 01:01.53 | Adys | and have an icecream with the contents |
| 01:01.59 | Shadowed | Adys: weren't you supposed to be going to sleep |
| 01:02.05 | Shadowed | I can ban you for 10 hours if you want, off to bed |
| 01:02.22 | Adys | 10 hours? wtf kind of country do you sleep with, australia? |
| 01:02.23 | Shadowed | Although I can't promise it'll stick for 10 hours, Cairenn will probalby revert it :( |
| 01:02.35 | Cairenn | rofl, I'm such a bad influence, Shadowed already sounds like me! |
| 01:02.36 | Adys | I sleep 3-4 hours top nowadays |
| 01:02.46 | Shadowed | Sorry I forgot to modify it for programmers time |
| 01:02.48 | Shadowed | Cairenn: you are |
| 01:02.57 | Fisker | assuming direct control |
| 01:03.32 | Cairenn | sorry, but that's completely hilarious, Shadowed, since I have done exactly that before - banned someone from channels and sites, so they'd go sleep |
| 01:03.40 | Cairenn | mind you, I've also had it done to me, so .... |
| 01:05.13 | Adys | k, algo problematic here |
| 01:05.21 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/167599/ |
| 01:06.03 | Adys | line 10 needs to be modified to include the stringblock address |
| 01:06.26 | Adys | so do i keep a counter or.. hmm |
| 01:06.29 | Adys | yeah i guess i do |
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| 01:43.16 | WobWork | activates VIBRATEMODE on Fisker's bed. |
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| 01:52.33 | WobWork | gah |
| 01:52.47 | WobWork | http://cholesteroltest.com.au/ apparently has some form of exit survey that pops up on leaving the site. |
| 01:52.52 | WobWork | But I can't seem to activate it =P |
| 01:54.46 | WobWork | and now the client wants this exit survey functionality |
| 01:55.10 | WobWork | even though we've emphasised that it'll perhaps only work for about 10% of visitors =P |
| 01:55.12 | WobWork | if at al |
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| 02:09.04 | Ginji | WobWork: and is annoying as hell |
| 02:09.36 | WobWork | Ginji: oh I -totally- agree |
| 02:09.40 | WobWork | however it's what the client wants =P |
| 02:10.01 | Ginji | :) |
| 02:10.08 | WobWork | We're hoping, that through a subtle process of "JUST NOT FUCKING WORKING AS EXPECTED" we'll wear them down to removing the function |
| 02:11.32 | Jerub | quakelive time |
| 02:12.02 | Dagmar | Preventing a user from leaving a site is a virus-like behaviour. |
| 02:12.30 | Ginji | How I despise aspx |
| 02:12.43 | Dagmar | Browsers that let that happen will probably patch it soon enough |
| 02:12.54 | WobWork | it's a javascript functionality |
| 02:13.11 | WobWork | nothing to do with aspx =P |
| 02:13.24 | Ginji | My comment had nothing to do with the popup either |
| 02:13.33 | WobWork | oh just general hatred |
| 02:13.36 | Ginji | Uhuh |
| 02:13.39 | WobWork | good enough |
| 02:13.47 | WobWork | what do you prefer? |
| 02:13.57 | Ginji | For web? |
| 02:14.03 | WobWork | yeah |
| 02:14.05 | Ginji | static html |
| 02:14.07 | Ginji | :P |
| 02:14.19 | WobWork | doesn't allow much for programmability =P |
| 02:14.34 | Ginji | I guess I'd go for django atm |
| 02:15.35 | Ginji | it seems django has your approval |
| 02:15.45 | Shirik | Best urban dictionary definition yet: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Take%20off%20every%20zig |
| 02:15.50 | Ginji | since I was expecting some comeback to hate whatever I prefered :P |
| 02:16.18 | Ginji | hehe |
| 02:16.41 | Dagmar | I'm leaning towards Haskell myself. |
| 02:16.48 | Ginji | For web? |
| 02:16.50 | Dagmar | Yeah. |
| 02:16.52 | Ginji | Seriously? |
| 02:17.08 | Dagmar | It'll put a complete stop to all the idiots out there slapping together utterly insecure and bloated websites. |
| 02:17.51 | WobWork | Ginji: I don't really care =) |
| 02:18.00 | Shirik | if PHP would get rid of the mysql_ functions we would be much better off |
| 02:18.07 | Shirik | if everyone used mysqli and prepared statements we'd be good to go |
| 02:18.08 | WobWork | and I haven't enough experience with django to have an opinion on it |
| 02:18.08 | Shirik | but nooo |
| 02:18.23 | WobWork | and I work for a .net company |
| 02:18.26 | Ginji | I have zero experience with it |
| 02:18.48 | Ginji | But it's probably better then the stuff I do know |
| 02:19.00 | WobWork | holy crap |
| 02:19.05 | WobWork | this isn't an 'exit' survey |
| 02:19.25 | WobWork | this is a "Lets change every single anchor link tag to pop up a new window" survey |
| 02:19.38 | Ginji | You got it to work? |
| 02:19.48 | WobWork | yeah.. I clicked on a link -in- the site |
| 02:20.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: i'm not certain, but i believe the PDO stuff in PHP still requires mysql, not mysqli |
| 02:20.13 | Ginji | Ah right |
| 02:20.15 | Shirik | tons of stuff still requires mysql |
| 02:20.17 | Shirik | that's the problem |
| 02:20.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i agree |
| 02:20.36 | Ginji | I only clicked on that Phifzer icon thingy |
| 02:20.36 | Dagmar | Shirik: I'm not just looking to eliminate insecure sites. I'd also like to eliminate zero-content, negative-clue, and pompous-jackass sites as well |
| 02:20.38 | NightHawkTheSane | but PDO is actually kind of nice |
| 02:20.38 | Ginji | Which was unaffected |
| 02:20.53 | Shirik | how do you intend to eliminate pompous-jackass sites? |
| 02:20.53 | Dagmar | You know, the ones people put up with Drupal where they pretend to actually know WTF they're talking about |
| 02:21.06 | Ginji | Shirik: Fire |
| 02:21.13 | Dagmar | Require Haskell. |
| 02:21.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:21.27 | Shirik | haskell == I know what I'm talking about? |
| 02:21.38 | Dagmar | No, but it would show you at least knew something aobut _something_. |
| 02:21.49 | Dagmar | GRC.com would never have made it beyond the first page |
| 02:22.49 | Ginji | How I despise webdevelopment in general! |
| 02:23.10 | Ginji | well, not really, it's fine if you make something for one browser |
| 02:23.16 | Ginji | But to support the others is a pain |
| 02:23.32 | Dagmar | You should never _have_ to |
| 02:23.38 | Ginji | Ideally |
| 02:23.49 | Dagmar | Realistically, it's not generally reasonable |
| 02:23.59 | Dagmar | The website winds up working like crap as a result |
| 02:24.12 | Dagmar | Just take a look at Wired.com |
| 02:25.53 | Shadowed | ~lart Shirik |
| 02:25.53 | purl | eats Shirik and falls over dead |
| 02:26.01 | Dagmar | Miles of javascript, just to make sure that the site looks equally garish on all browsers |
| 02:26.14 | Dagmar | ...oh, and loads like crap on anything even remotely lightweight. |
| 02:26.24 | Shirik | ~lart Shadowed |
| 02:26.24 | purl | pours gasoline all over Shadowed, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 02:26.32 | Shadowed | mmmm marshmallows |
| 02:27.36 | sylvanaar | marshmellons |
| 02:27.42 | Shadowed | ew |
| 02:30.42 | Ginji | Dagmar: I'm not talking about making it look the same |
| 02:30.47 | Ginji | Just talking about not breaking it |
| 02:31.11 | WobWork | riiight... it waits for 2 minutes, then changes every single link to popup the survey =P |
| 02:31.18 | WobWork | it's... an interesting strategy |
| 02:31.32 | WobWork | if you've spent 2min on the site, you're clearly looking for information |
| 02:32.19 | Ginji | "We want that feature!" ... "It's annoying, do you want to be annoying?" |
| 02:32.26 | WobWork | "Yes" |
| 02:32.29 | Ginji | :P |
| 02:33.18 | Ginji | WobWork: I still have one question, can you open that survey without waiting for 2 minutes? As in, is there a normal path to the survey or is it only reachable through javascript ? |
| 02:34.25 | WobWork | I can't find a way to get to the survey manually |
| 02:37.37 | Ginji | So that's one more fail |
| 02:38.25 | Ginji | And is it just me or has the "Save" button in firefox shifted position |
| 02:42.44 | Dagmar | Well, if you've ever been on a car lot, you *know* that clearly a very valuable sales technique is to annoy the piss out of your prospective customer. |
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| 03:06.39 | alestane | Ginji: Read Clients from Hell, people want stuff that's annoying all the time. |
| 03:07.53 | cbreak | like windows? |
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| 03:26.09 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 03:26.20 | Shirik | I just came across this insane concept, "Intentional programming" |
| 03:26.22 | Shirik | it's scary |
| 03:26.37 | Shirik | it's like you tell the computer what to do, and it does it |
| 03:26.43 | Shirik | not in code, just what you want it to do |
| 03:28.16 | cbreak | ...conquer the world... |
| 03:30.31 | Shirik | it's like |
| 03:30.32 | Shirik | wierd |
| 03:30.36 | Shirik | keywords don't exist at all |
| 03:30.46 | Shirik | like the word "if" is just another identifier that is implemented |
| 03:30.53 | Shirik | literally everything is implemented |
| 03:31.02 | Shirik | even + has a definition |
| 03:31.27 | cbreak | operator+ |
| 03:31.36 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:31.41 | Shirik | you're not getting my point |
| 03:32.45 | Shirik | the "program" is entirely a database known as an "IP Tree" |
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| 03:39.32 | WobWork | Shirik: sounds meta |
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| 03:50.35 | Thunder_Child | "When he came he sounded like a flock of birds hitting puberty." >.< |
| 03:51.40 | alestane | Y'know Thunder_Child, I found that image a little too disturbing to share when I read it. |
| 03:52.07 | Thunder_Child | obviously i dont get as disturbed as you |
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| 03:53.57 | WobWork | http://bp1.blogger.com/_LSGnycsyeI4/R9h7i4jkaSI/AAAAAAAAARQ/tyFGdJo6mu0/s1600-h/ceiling_cat.jpg |
| 04:04.35 | Thunder_Child | what fucking numbskull thought that arranging items horozontally vs. by columns is good? |
| 04:05.56 | kd3 | WobWork, lmao |
| 04:08.38 | WobWork | kd3: I have the urge to come in early to work and stick some up in strategic locations |
| 04:08.59 | kd3 | but how much of the office recognizes the meme? |
| 04:09.02 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: like with ItemRack? |
| 04:09.26 | WobWork | kd3: our latest site has a keyboardcat easteregg in the predicitive search =P |
| 04:09.28 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: Controll pannel in win 7 |
| 04:09.35 | Thunder_Child | Control* |
| 04:09.38 | kd3 | winces |
| 04:09.38 | Thunder_Child | Panel* |
| 04:10.16 | Shadowed | WobWork: do it |
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| 04:16.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ... what? http://i.imgur.com/P0WRp.jpg |
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| 06:49.26 | awweaver | | . |
| 06:49.36 | awweaver | ~botsnack |
| 06:49.36 | purl | aw, gee, awweaver |
| 06:49.46 | awweaver | i wonder |
| 06:49.54 | awweaver | ~botsammich |
| 06:50.00 | awweaver | :( |
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| 07:04.46 | Shirik | I'm going to start making shiibot ban anyone that types | . |
| 07:05.03 | nevcairiel | i dont get it, what does it mean? :P |
| 07:05.17 | Shadowed | ping pong I presume? |
| 07:06.41 | Shirik | ^ |
| 07:06.46 | Shirik | except it's just called pong |
| 07:06.52 | Shirik | you disgrace the atari |
| 07:07.05 | nevcairiel | but why would you write that when entering a channel? |
| 07:07.15 | krka | right back at you shirik! . | |
| 07:07.22 | Shadowed | Shirik: In my defense, I never played the Atari |
| 07:07.26 | Shadowed | so I get a pass |
| 07:08.13 | Shadowed | Now, lesse if this works |
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| 07:08.29 | nevcairiel | if disconnecting was your intention, then it worked |
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| 07:09.33 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 07:09.39 | Shirik | the school finally gave us access to MS Project |
| 07:09.40 | Shadowed | ? |
| 07:09.44 | Shirik | about time |
| 07:09.58 | Shirik | for some reason they've been all "nah nah only faculty needs it" and then we have a ton of courses that use it |
| 07:11.40 | Dagmar | That's probably not such a bad thing |
| 07:12.09 | Dagmar | It's about as useful to most people as powerpoint is. They get bogged down in screwing around with MSProject and forget WTF they were supposed to be doing in the first place |
| 07:12.43 | Dagmar | I see it happen _often_ in offices |
| 07:13.14 | Dagmar | ...and I'm sure you've seen plenty of powerpoint presentations that are more like a tech demo for powerpoint than a useful presentation |
| 07:13.31 | Jerub | this is why i like scrum. |
| 07:14.09 | Dagmar | If they don't know how to put a project together, MS Project is just going to be a hindrance and a distraction |
| 07:14.21 | Shadowed | Nobody knows how to do powerpoints |
| 07:14.26 | Dagmar | Same issue there |
| 07:14.34 | Shadowed | 99% of the ones I see are "Let's put a black and white image, and then put black text on it" |
| 07:14.53 | Dagmar | The people I've seen give _good_ presentations with PP pretty much did just fine with whiteboards and big pieces of paper before |
| 07:15.29 | Dagmar | Shadowed: Those people are probably actually focused on the task and couldn't care less about the "magic" of powerpoint |
| 07:15.49 | Shadowed | No I'm pretty sure they are lazy and didn't actually read their own pwerpoint |
| 07:16.23 | nevcairiel | if you're focused on the task, you'll at least make your presentation readable |
| 07:16.43 | Shadowed | Which is pretty amusing I must say |
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| 07:16.55 | Shadowed | Because then they try and read their own powerpoint and you can tell pretty quickly they can't |
| 07:17.17 | Dagmar | Well, I'm guessing the "black and white" people are just treating powerpoint like a way to automate projector transparencies, which is at least a better start than "bulletpointing _everything_" and "animation means something" |
| 07:18.01 | Dagmar | shadowed: I've probably got at least a foot of spiral-bound powerpoint crap in my den |
| 07:18.06 | nevcairiel | i would never use any animation in a professional presentation |
| 07:18.17 | Shadowed | I don't think I'd use animation in any presentation |
| 07:18.23 | Dagmar | Frankly I really like the way Lessig does his presentations |
| 07:18.26 | Shadowed | Short of a presentation on what not to do |
| 07:18.38 | nevcairiel | there are some basic rules |
| 07:18.43 | Dagmar | In a twisted, evil world, he'd be writing presentations for Big Brother |
| 07:18.53 | Dagmar | They're almost hypnotic |
| 07:20.18 | nevcairiel | its not hard to follow them .. like, don't use every inch of space on a page, use short and concise bullet points, and keep the whole thing readable through good contrast .. if you follow that, its basicly not a fail-presentation |
| 07:22.48 | Dagmar | I think about half of Lessig's presentations are one word per screen, followed by an image or two, and he only puts full sentences up there when he's outlining something involving complex arguments |
| 07:23.24 | Dagmar | Whatever he's making, he probably needs to be paid more |
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| 07:32.29 | krka | anyone good with git here? how do i take an existing local git repository and push it to a server (via ssh) and set it up as the remote master to pull/push from/to |
| 07:33.35 | Shirik | you switch to bzr :3 |
| 07:36.28 | krka | is bzr better? i thought they seemed fairly equivalent |
| 07:38.21 | Thunder_Child | interesting....if you made your addons hostable nowhere and then handed them out to select people and sold them the service of tech support for the addon, that wouldnt violate the TOS or EULA would it? |
| 07:39.06 | Dagmar | I don't think you'd keep many customers that way |
| 07:39.20 | Dagmar | It'd be a bit like "OHAI! I'm charging you for my sloppy work." |
| 07:39.55 | Thunder_Child | well the conversation of powerpoint presenintations reminded me that i made one for class some time ago about selling custom UI's to guilds |
| 07:40.29 | Thunder_Child | and then keeping the various addons up to date and working together |
| 07:40.46 | Thunder_Child | and that service would be legal i think |
| 07:43.52 | Dagmar | Very likely, but I think it also might wind up support "drama" |
| 07:44.15 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 07:44.52 | theorbtwo | The service would be legal. |
| 07:45.19 | theorbtwo | IIRC, however, it'd be legal for the people you gave the addon to to give it to other people, and to modify it. |
| 07:45.24 | Dagmar | You might be in a sane guild, but there's lots of them out there that just reek of trailer trash |
| 07:45.44 | Thunder_Child | oh..na, i dont have a sane guild, but i do enjoy it |
| 07:45.45 | theorbtwo | They wouldn't get support from you, but they might not need it. |
| 07:45.50 | Dagmar | Combine that with an addon/ui that someone paid for, and there's the potential for increased drama if someone gets das boot |
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| 07:48.23 | Thunder_Child | eh, i can think of ways around it, but i dont want to get into a license discussion |
| 07:48.28 | Thunder_Child | i dont know enough about them |
| 07:48.30 | theorbtwo | If I were you ... or Thunder_Child ... I'd sell support to *people*, not to *guilds*. |
| 07:49.01 | theorbtwo | If all of a guild wants to buy support from you, that's up to them. |
| 07:49.08 | Thunder_Child | i'm not going to do it, i dont care enough. it was just idle thought |
| 07:49.18 | Dagmar | Probably easier to talk them into shipping you a six-pack each time they down a boss |
| 07:49.30 | Dagmar | Probably much easier, actually |
| 07:49.41 | Dagmar | OKay, maybe a full clear |
| 07:50.05 | Dagmar | The way some people pound certain pinatas, the former method could turn you alcoholic |
| 07:50.23 | Thunder_Child | i dont drink alcohol |
| 07:50.35 | theorbtwo | OTOH, I think there's probably a lot to be said for universal addons within a guild. |
| 07:51.26 | Thunder_Child | as well as frapsing vids with an awesome looming UI that has your guild name plastered all over it |
| 07:51.30 | Thunder_Child | looking* |
| 07:51.45 | Dagmar | Well, you can overlay that in later actually |
| 07:52.07 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure Windows Movie Maker even supports it, although few people seem to bother |
| 07:52.27 | Thunder_Child | overlay a good UI? not worth it |
| 07:52.35 | Dagmar | No, overlay in the _guild_ logo |
| 07:53.15 | Thunder_Child | eh, having it in the UI itself makes it so much sexier, with the various things that go along with it |
| 07:53.24 | Thunder_Child | eg. standing out from the crowd |
| 07:53.26 | Dagmar | Also, not to disparage unnecessarily, but a standard kit of addons is something the luddites might more easily accept |
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| 07:53.48 | Dagmar | I've had two guildmates in the last year finally just up and ask me what core addons I use |
| 07:54.10 | Dagmar | I mess with a lot of them, but generally for long enough to decide they're not helping, and no further |
| 07:54.15 | Thunder_Child | oh, i figured it was be 'apple' user friendly |
| 07:54.21 | Thunder_Child | s/was/would/ |
| 07:54.29 | frontendloader | any of you know much about Getalling the AH? if I have an item that returns nil for the owner field from GetAuctionItemInfo("list", i), can I just retry GetAuctionItemInfo in 1-2 seconds for it to resolve? |
| 07:54.29 | Dagmar | A few tho', like PassLoot... Practically a requirement if you're pounding LFD |
| 07:55.14 | Dagmar | frontendloader: It's worth a shot. I've always figured there was something wrong with that function from the number of times I don't see seller names until I pull the same list again |
| 07:55.32 | Dagmar | It's not been enough of a hassle to look into it closely |
| 07:55.36 | frontendloader | yeah kandoko enlightened me to some of its quirks |
| 07:55.48 | frontendloader | aparently if you request too many GUID-to-name resolutions |
| 07:56.09 | frontendloader | the name server blocks you for a short time and you either get nil's or see Unknown above people's heads |
| 07:56.19 | Dagmar | That sounds right |
| 07:56.41 | Dagmar | My only theory way that it was expected the data to get populated into your cache by some mechanism that was either throttling, or on a slower queu |
| 07:56.58 | Dagmar | s/way/was/; |
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| 07:59.43 | zenzio | so I was sitting at home watching the end of a TV show last night, when suddenly the screen went blank, and then my TV told me it had no signal. After a few seconds, the screen lit up a little, showing me that the cable TV and internet decoder box had decided that "hey, 1:30 is a good time to download and install updates, nevermind that he's actually using the box right now" |
| 07:59.53 | zenzio | and when it comes back up, it doesn't connect to the net |
| 08:00.12 | Dagmar | Internet decoder box? |
| 08:00.19 | Dagmar | Do you actually get IPTV there? |
| 08:01.01 | zenzio | well, it's cable TV, but they also provide Internet... and so you can get a box with a built-in modem, instead of having that in addition to the cable TV decoder |
| 08:01.09 | Thunder_Child | steam for mac is alive....not bad |
| 08:01.16 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 08:01.30 | zenzio | so I can look forward to some troubleshooting and probably calling tech support when I get home |
| 08:02.00 | Dagmar | I've grown to expect so little from cable companies I'd say they probably queued up maintenance on their headend routers at the same time as their video feed updates |
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| 08:02.24 | Dagmar | Probably ensuring that the video upgrade ain't gonna happen until the 'net works again |
| 08:06.05 | Shirik | Ok I'm sitting here grading papers, and I see this on the front page |
| 08:06.09 | Shirik | Submitted on February 38, 2010 |
| 08:06.15 | Shirik | Do I take points off? |
| 08:06.26 | zenzio | yes, he's clearly handed it in too late |
| 08:06.30 | Dagmar | No, but I do think you're in the clear to mock them a bit |
| 08:07.01 | Shadowed | Write, "I gave you bonus points for submitting your paper from the future" |
| 08:07.03 | Thunder_Child | i had a teacher take points off a test because the student spelled his name wrong |
| 08:07.07 | Shirik | I just left a little note "orly?" on it |
| 08:07.13 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 08:07.16 | Dagmar | Perfect |
| 08:07.52 | Dagmar | Spellchecking might not be the most important thing in the world, but careless numeric typos put bridges in the river |
| 08:08.47 | Dagmar | ...and occasionally shut down console gaming networks. ;) |
| 08:08.50 | Shirik | rofl |
| 08:09.01 | Shirik | was that really what it was? I hadn't seen any cause published |
| 08:09.07 | frontendloader | sup I crashed my wowz |
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| 08:09.15 | frontendloader | with my addon :/ |
| 08:09.18 | Thunder_Child | it was the Y2.01K bug |
| 08:09.26 | Dagmar | No one's said anything yet, but you have to really work at doing it wrong to have a simple calendar break |
| 08:09.31 | Thunder_Child | Y2.1K* |
| 08:09.46 | Dagmar | There's public code literally all over the 'net on the simple task of turning epoch time into local time |
| 08:09.47 | Wobin | http://nextround.net/upcoming/thumbs/2010/03/03/Best-Ridiculously-Random-FOX-News-Poll-Ever-full.jpg |
| 08:09.54 | Shadowed | It's Sony, it just took a while for the Y2K memo to reach the developers |
| 08:09.56 | Wobin | Fox News. Home to Qwality Journalism |
| 08:09.58 | zenzio | Dagmar: let's not forget taking the whole .se TLD offline |
| 08:10.09 | Dagmar | zenzio: Hehe yep good example there |
| 08:10.19 | frontendloader | say I want to just tag something on to the end of a string |
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| 08:10.40 | frontendloader | is there a better way to do that a lot of times in a row to make a gigantic string or rope if you will |
| 08:10.41 | frontendloader | than .. |
| 08:10.57 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: epoch to local isnt really simple |
| 08:11.09 | Shirik | however, it's a solved problem |
| 08:11.13 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 08:11.36 | Dagmar | Compared to cleaning up the mess when you eff it up because you *ignored* that it's a 'solved problem' and decide to just whack something together. |
| 08:11.59 | zenzio | not like anyone will be running PS3s in four years anyhow ;-) |
| 08:12.13 | Dagmar | I'm still waiting to turn mine on. |
| 08:12.16 | Shadowed | Shirik: It's a hard problem to solve, you see, dates are like the wind. Sometimes they last 28 days, sometimes they last 30, and sometimes they last 40 |
| 08:12.18 | theorbtwo | BTW, much harder then epoch->local is local->epoch. |
| 08:12.42 | frontendloader | oh table.concat huh |
| 08:12.45 | Dagmar | ~theorbtwo++ |
| 08:12.53 | zenzio | we should abandon epoch time and start using epic time |
| 08:12.58 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: you have to account for every single leap second since 1970 to do it correctly |
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| 08:13.11 | Dagmar | That one's not even solvable properly unless you require some very specific syntax for daylight savings time |
| 08:13.24 | Shadowed | Sony should invent a new time format |
| 08:13.35 | Dagmar | Swatch tried it. |
| 08:13.40 | Dagmar | THey failed, utterly. |
| 08:13.59 | Dagmar | You remember "beats", right? I never saw anything wrong with just using GMT |
| 08:14.08 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: or you disambugate from context. I've done that, it's annoying. |
| 08:14.43 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: Well, I've got an uuuugly patch here which I hope to eventually finish that'll convert MythTV to using epoch time properly |
| 08:15.03 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: It was amusing for a while, though, and results in their name coming up in conversations like this more often. |
| 08:15.09 | Dagmar | _Solely_ because the daylight savings time thing makes scheduling dodgy twice a year |
| 08:15.20 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: Yeah, that was more or less my use case, too. |
| 08:15.51 | Dagmar | I had to do it once at a medical records management company. That was just not going to happen. |
| 08:16.08 | theorbtwo | The problem is that half the data providers get it wrong themselves, one way or another. |
| 08:16.28 | Dagmar | We just had to count on that rx records and such _probably_ aren't severely impacted by being vague about which particlar incidence of 2am was in effect |
| 08:21.01 | zenzio | wonder how long it will be before everyone finally abandons DST |
| 08:22.49 | theorbtwo | zenzio: Quite a long time. |
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| 08:45.22 | Ycarene | Is there a mod that will show tanking stats, like total avoidance, defense, etc? |
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| 08:46.02 | Kalroth | TankPoints |
| 08:46.24 | Kalroth | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/tank-points.aspx |
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| 09:00.33 | Fisker | assuming direct control |
| 09:00.40 | Wobin | wtb defense stat count on ElitistGroups |
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| 09:00.51 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 09:00.56 | Shadowed | Hi Fisker, love you |
| 09:01.00 | Shadowed | Wobin: Ask Blizzard to give stats |
| 09:02.27 | Shadowed | Wobin: Elitist Armory does actual stat stuff, http://elitistarmory.com/US/Mal%27Ganis/Shadow |
| 09:02.40 | Shadowed | don't have a tank offhand but still |
| 09:03.20 | zenzio | I'm still unhappy that defense is being removed in Cataclysm |
| 09:03.30 | Shadowed | Defense is an silly stat |
| 09:03.37 | Shadowed | It's annoying for the first week or two, then it's worthless |
| 09:03.38 | zenzio | I like it |
| 09:03.57 | Shadowed | Worthless in the sense of "It's just another stat" |
| 09:04.21 | Wobin | Shadowed, s/Elitist Armory has no affiliation or endorsed by Blizzard Entertainment./Elitist Armory has no affiliation and is in no way endorsed by Blizzard Entertainment./ |
| 09:04.37 | Shadowed | Wobin to be fair, I took that from Antiarc so blame him |
| 09:04.45 | Wobin | totally blames Antiarc |
| 09:05.33 | Antiarc | Not fair to copy placeholder text and blame me when it sucks |
| 09:05.42 | Shadowed | Life isn't fair! |
| 09:05.54 | Antiarc | Shadowed: you ripped off my sweet CSS3 shadows, you hack |
| 09:05.57 | Wobin | and really, Sigil of Awareness is not a tank sigil? |
| 09:06.08 | Shadowed | I didn't, I stole your fonts thought |
| 09:06.10 | Shadowed | Wobin link |
| 09:06.15 | Shadowed | Although I need to retweak those |
| 09:06.19 | Wobin | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40207/ |
| 09:06.29 | Wobin | well, I admit it has no specific defense stats |
| 09:06.32 | Fisker | mentos? |
| 09:06.33 | Shadowed | it's not |
| 09:06.34 | Wobin | but sigils tend to be tricky that way |
| 09:06.40 | Shadowed | Tank sigil is uh |
| 09:06.51 | Shadowed | Unfaltering Knight |
| 09:07.07 | Wobin | yes, but you hardly see that in use =P |
| 09:07.12 | Shadowed | And any Sigil that requires Rune Strike |
| 09:07.40 | Wobin | Sigil of deflection I guess |
| 09:08.04 | Shadowed | that one |
| 09:08.13 | Wobin | In any case, Awareness is still a good tanking sigil |
| 09:08.19 | Wobin | but that's more due to definition of 'good' |
| 09:08.27 | Torhal | Shadowed: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=180535&postcount=868 |
| 09:08.36 | Wobin | since it's tailored more towards threat generation than avoidance |
| 09:08.49 | Torhal | And now I go to bed. |
| 09:09.02 | Shadowed | removed |
| 09:09.19 | Wobin | ousum! |
| 09:09.31 | Shadowed | Ah actually |
| 09:09.41 | Shadowed | Guess I should ban |
| 09:09.44 | Shadowed | also, I should figure out how you ban |
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| 09:15.21 | Elkano | Shadowed, did you drop the "missing belt socket" for the webpage? |
| 09:15.52 | Shadowed | I haven't implemented that yet |
| 09:15.59 | Shadowed | rewriting backend and I'll add it |
| 09:16.31 | Elkano | ah, ok :) |
| 09:16.43 | Elkano | but page looks nice :) |
| 09:16.57 | Fisker | Antiarc |
| 09:17.02 | Fisker | i'm assuming direct control |
| 09:17.04 | Antiarc | hi Fisker |
| 09:17.23 | Shadowed | If only I could squelch you and make it look like the bot did it |
| 09:18.14 | Fisker | even Zeksie has come back to update zomgbuffs Antiarc |
| 09:18.18 | Fisker | how does that make you feel?! |
| 09:18.32 | Antiarc | At this point I'm specifically not updating it to annoy you |
| 09:18.33 | Antiarc | :) |
| 09:18.51 | Shadowed | What mod are you spiting Fisker on |
| 09:18.52 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 09:18.59 | Antiarc | Blessed |
| 09:19.06 | Shadowed | Just make it delete his items |
| 09:19.29 | Antiarc | FYI |
| 09:19.34 | Antiarc | There is no roguelike for Android |
| 09:19.38 | Antiarc | I sense a market opportunity |
| 09:19.46 | Shadowed | roguelike? |
| 09:19.46 | nevcairiel | roguelike? |
| 09:19.51 | Arrowmaster | how is that possible |
| 09:19.55 | Antiarc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roguelike |
| 09:20.03 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: I have no idea. |
| 09:20.04 | Arrowmaster | somebody had to of made one |
| 09:20.04 | Shadowed | oh |
| 09:20.15 | Antiarc | I would make one but then I would never get anything done ever again |
| 09:20.22 | Shadowed | Antiarc: and you'd have to write Java |
| 09:20.34 | Antiarc | Java's not horrific. Just verbose. |
| 09:20.52 | Antiarc | you can actually write apps in Ruby with some of the middleware work being done |
| 09:20.54 | Antiarc | But it's slow |
| 09:21.09 | krka | i like most of the verbosity in java |
| 09:21.27 | krka | the only exception is stuff like: Map<Foo, Bar> myMap = new HashMap<Foo, Bar>(); |
| 09:21.30 | Antiarc | I'm a Ruby dev by day, which is pretty much the antithesis of verbose development |
| 09:21.33 | krka | with the duplication of information |
| 09:22.36 | Shadowed | I found a Ruby IRC client by the way Antiarc, it runs surprisingly well |
| 09:22.46 | Antiarc | What's its backing library? |
| 09:22.56 | Antiarc | Autumn is the one I've liked the most |
| 09:22.59 | Antiarc | YAIL is pretty FAIL |
| 09:23.00 | Shadowed | RubyCocoa |
| 09:23.08 | Shadowed | or you mean IRC backend |
| 09:23.09 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 09:23.21 | Antiarc | yeah, it's likely using a IRC lib of some flavor |
| 09:24.04 | Shadowed | Looks custom to me |
| 09:24.56 | Antiarc | "Extra small condoms for 12 year-old boys go on sale in Switzerland" |
| 09:25.01 | Antiarc | what. the flack. |
| 09:27.28 | Wobin | do they have cartoon characters on them, like band-aids? |
| 09:28.10 | Antiarc | That's a disturbing thought |
| 09:28.19 | Antiarc | http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2808/housecatspiechart.jpg |
| 09:30.09 | krka | true! |
| 09:32.18 | Fisker | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/epic-fail-ad-fail.jpg |
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| 09:34.21 | Shadowed | Those statistics are definitely true |
| 09:42.35 | Shirik | woot |
| 09:42.44 | Shirik | I have become so important that measures have been taken to protect me |
| 09:42.53 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shirik&action=edit <-- article cannot be made except by administrators |
| 09:43.01 | Shirik | 4chan does not seem to like me :( |
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| 09:56.13 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 09:56.18 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 09:56.18 | Fisker | i'm assuming direct control |
| 09:56.22 | Shirik | no you're not |
| 09:56.36 | Fisker | yes i am |
| 09:56.43 | Shirik | nope |
| 09:56.52 | Fisker | oh |
| 09:57.10 | Fisker | then i'll get myself a GTX 480 |
| 09:57.21 | nevcairiel | no you won't |
| 09:57.51 | Fisker | yes i will |
| 09:57.58 | nevcairiel | nope |
| 09:58.11 | Fisker | stop being jerks :( |
| 09:58.20 | nevcairiel | no we won't |
| 09:59.37 | Cairenn | >.< |
| 10:02.34 | Fisker | Then i'm getting those new low-voltage high-frequency Kingston memory modules |
| 10:03.38 | Shirik | A mosquito got me :< |
| 10:04.32 | Fisker | om nom nom? |
| 10:09.13 | zenzio | tickles Cairenn |
| 10:09.28 | Cairenn | hugs zenzio |
| 10:09.32 | zenzio | :) |
| 10:16.51 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 10:16.55 | Shirik | nevcairiel |
| 10:17.05 | Shirik | If you were stranded on a desert island |
| 10:17.14 | Shirik | and you could only take me or Fisker to aid in your survival |
| 10:17.17 | Shirik | whom would you take? |
| 10:18.03 | nevcairiel | depends, who of you has more flesh on his bones? |
| 10:18.12 | Shirik | rofl |
| 10:18.19 | Shirik | Cairenn will vouch for me when I say definitely not me |
| 10:18.25 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 10:18.37 | zenzio | how can you be so sure? Have you seen Fisker in person? |
| 10:18.48 | Shirik | I think to be skinnier than me you'd have to be dead |
| 10:19.12 | zenzio | I'm 175 cm, but weigh only 55 kg |
| 10:19.20 | Shirik | I have no idea what that is |
| 10:19.33 | zenzio | lua> 172 / 2.54 |
| 10:19.34 | krka | metric is hard |
| 10:19.35 | lua_bot | zenzio: 67.716535433071 |
| 10:19.42 | krka | let me google that for you |
| 10:19.56 | krka | "175 cm in feet and inches" |
| 10:19.59 | zenzio | what was modulus again... |
| 10:20.12 | krka | "55 kg in lbs": |
| 10:20.13 | zenzio | lua> math.fmod(67.7, 12) |
| 10:20.13 | krka | 55 kilograms = 121.254244 pounds |
| 10:20.13 | lua_bot | zenzio: 7.7 |
| 10:20.19 | zenzio | that can't be right |
| 10:20.40 | zenzio | oh wait, of course it can |
| 10:20.44 | nevcairiel | its 5' 9 |
| 10:20.48 | theorbtwo | Ah. I was about to be impressed that google groked "175 cm in feet and inches"... but it doesn't. OTOH, a search gets it correct. |
| 10:20.49 | zenzio | and 12*5 should be obvious x.x |
| 10:21.23 | Shirik | well zenzelezz is very slightly lesser in weight, but also significantly shorter |
| 10:21.26 | Shirik | I think my BMI is lower |
| 10:21.47 | Shirik | yup |
| 10:22.48 | theorbtwo | <3 GNU units. |
| 10:22.53 | Shirik | ROFL! |
| 10:22.58 | Shirik | GSV car hits deer: http://i.imgur.com/50C26.jpg |
| 10:23.08 | theorbtwo | (Even though it doesn't understand units 175cm ft+in either.) |
| 10:23.33 | theorbtwo | Nicely named street for it, too. |
| 10:23.40 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 10:23.43 | nevcairiel | five points road |
| 10:24.22 | Fisker | hey guys |
| 10:26.04 | Gagorian | wtf 175cm and 55kg >_> |
| 10:26.19 | zenzio | well apparently Shirik is worse |
| 10:26.34 | Shirik | ? |
| 10:26.41 | Shirik | oh |
| 10:26.43 | Shirik | meh |
| 10:26.59 | zenzio | you said it yourself, just not in those exact words |
| 10:27.23 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 10:27.26 | Fisker | you're killing me |
| 10:27.34 | Shirik | no |
| 10:27.35 | Shirik | nevcairiel is |
| 10:27.39 | Shirik | he doesn't like my BMI |
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| 10:28.02 | nevcairiel | hey you said "to aid in your survival" |
| 10:28.11 | nevcairiel | that was an obvious choice |
| 10:29.12 | krka | meh, it's not about bmi, it's about muscle tissue |
| 10:29.28 | krka | i suppose the fat is energy rich too |
| 10:35.28 | Shirik | well, fat or muscle, doesn't matter |
| 10:35.30 | Shirik | I don't have either |
| 10:43.23 | Shirik | ok |
| 10:43.27 | Shirik | time to go to sleep |
| 10:43.27 | Shirik | night |
| 10:54.37 | Arrowmaster | "Steven Spielberg, filmmaker and part-time game designer, plans to make a live action version of Masamune Shirow's Ghost in the Shell futuristic cop manga." |
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| 10:59.14 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 10:59.21 | Fisker | would you mind i assumed direct control? |
| 10:59.32 | Fisker | +if |
| 11:04.16 | Cairenn | Fisker: no |
| 11:07.15 | foxlit | Sigh, one of my MSN contacts is an idiot :( |
| 11:07.46 | airtonix | you mean you have a msn list with just you on it ? |
| 11:07.47 | foxlit | And now I keep getting im spam from random accounts. Sad. |
| 11:08.13 | airtonix | its punishment for using msn |
| 11:09.11 | foxlit | I don't see why any other IM service could not be abused in the same way. |
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| 11:10.16 | airtonix | so you can't specify that you only want to recieve messages from people only on your list ? |
| 11:10.19 | Fisker | i wasn't asknig your permission Cairenn :( |
| 11:10.25 | Cairenn | tough |
| 11:10.54 | foxlit | airtonix: I can. That gets you a nice "Do you want to allow obviousspam@somedomain.com to send you messages?" message box every time they try. |
| 11:11.19 | airtonix | foxlit, lol |
| 11:11.40 | foxlit | [well, once per account, but it's still more than necessary] |
| 11:11.49 | airtonix | foxlit, what client do you use to connect to msn (its been at least 6 years since i last used msn protocol) |
| 11:12.06 | foxlit | Basically, pidgin. |
| 11:12.55 | airtonix | i thought it had "only recieve messages from contacts on friends list" and wether you want to recieve invites or not |
| 11:14.30 | foxlit | I don't think the latter exists |
| 11:14.38 | airtonix | oh snap it doesn't even have any of those options |
| 11:15.53 | foxlit | Maybe I'm going about this the wrong way. I could probably allow all incoming messages, but have the client drop any from people not on my contact list. |
| 11:16.28 | airtonix | i definitely remember having that kind of option...i just can't find it on my client (although i only have a bonjour and a xmpp account setup) |
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| 11:17.28 | airtonix | foxlit, here see if the privacy plugins here do something for you : http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins |
| 11:17.47 | foxlit | [The client is actually adium, but the protocol implementation is pidgin's] |
| 11:18.01 | airtonix | yeah its still libpurple |
| 11:19.33 | zenzio | <foxlit> I don't see why any other IM service could not be abused in the same way. <-- I remember ICQ was at least |
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| 11:24.29 | Arrowmaster | "Which will presumably let you play as a fucking vending machine." |
| 11:24.52 | theorbtwo | Zero Puncation ++ |
| 11:27.08 | haste | haven't watched ZP in ages |
| 11:28.07 | airtonix | procreating vending machines? interesting... are these the japanese variety that sell used clothing ? |
| 11:30.11 | Arrowmaster | goes back to watching railgun |
| 11:30.26 | haste | needs to start watching railgun |
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| 11:33.16 | tlund | what is the correct way to hide the current game tooltip? just call :Hide() or should i change owner and stuff also? I want to just quickly force-hide it when i enter combat. |
| 11:34.27 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1614 |
| 11:35.03 | zenzio | lol |
| 11:35.38 | haste | tlund: no, the default gametooltip is shown and hidden qutie rapidly, so just hooking the function showing it should be enough |
| 11:35.52 | haste | depending on exactly what you want to do as well ofc |
| 11:37.19 | tlund | haste: i dont want to hook it at all, i just want to force-hide it when i enter combat. I play a healer and my mouse is over Grid most of the time. Grid is configured to not show a unitframe tooltip in combat, but if the tooltip is already displayed (since i am out of combat) it does not go away. i have to move my mouse out from grid. wait for it to go away, then move the mouse back in over grid again., |
| 11:37.56 | haste | sounds like an issue with grid then! |
| 11:37.58 | tlund | possibly this is a compatibility thing with my tooltipaddon, but i tought i would just do a hack to get it working :) |
| 11:38.01 | haste | just hook and get it done |
| 11:38.22 | tlund | haste: if i knew how, i would submit a patch for grid, yes. |
| 11:38.28 | haste | most unit frame addons call the default unit frame fooltip function anyway |
| 11:38.46 | haste | fixing grid should be easier than hooking your way into it |
| 11:39.47 | tlund | again, i am not going to hook anything :) |
| 11:40.01 | tlund | i am just going to wait for the combat event and hide the game tooltip. |
| 11:40.08 | airtonix | <tlund has been hooked> |
| 11:40.14 | tlund | my question was if it is enough to do :Hide() or if i need to do anything else |
| 11:40.30 | haste | no, :Hide won't be enough |
| 11:40.41 | haste | it will barely blink then |
| 11:41.20 | tlund | ... |
| 11:43.53 | haste | such a dottes~ |
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| 11:54.33 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKA39LQOIck&feature=player_embedded |
| 11:54.37 | Wobin | that's pretty awesome |
| 11:54.46 | Wobin | bore wave |
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| 11:55.26 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/03/mercedesbenz-museum-world-record-artificial-tornado/ |
| 11:56.05 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_bore |
| 11:56.29 | Cairenn | yeah, tidal bore is neat to watch, at least the first few times |
| 11:57.51 | Fisker | assuming direct control, indirectly, behind Cairenns back |
| 11:58.02 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 11:58.03 | Cairenn | not likely |
| 11:58.09 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:58.10 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/032010/cats_paws.jpg |
| 11:59.11 | Kalroth | replace cat with wife and it'd still be true |
| 11:59.23 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/032010/lost--.jpg |
| 12:00.13 | Wobin | oh god http://www.explosm.net/comics/1973/ |
| 12:00.57 | Fisker | ffffuuuu- |
| 12:02.40 | Fisker | vil du 31108 Kalroth ? |
| 12:15.09 | Kalroth | fu |
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| 12:29.12 | harl | wuff |
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| 12:32.14 | Shirik | Cairenn |
| 12:32.21 | Cairenn | Shirik |
| 12:32.23 | Shirik | seriously, I'm about to go to school and you're still awake |
| 12:43.58 | Bruners | it's soon dinner time here and you haven't gone to school yet!? |
| 12:44.12 | nevcairiel | soon? its just 2pm! |
| 12:44.26 | Fisker | snaaaaaaaaaaaap |
| 12:44.27 | Fisker | [13:42:33][Blurmeat] whispers: There is still twenty thsusand g?ld available now, would you like to bùy some? |
| 12:44.27 | Fisker | [13:43:05]To [Blurmeat]: i believe the correct terminology would be "there are still..." |
| 12:44.27 | Fisker | [13:43:11]To [Blurmeat]: but no thank you (.jpg) |
| 12:46.38 | jnwhiteh | twenty thousand golds are available or twenty thousand gold is available, imo. |
| 12:46.43 | jnwhiteh | or rater |
| 12:46.54 | jnwhiteh | twenty thousand gold pieces are available |
| 12:46.56 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 12:47.03 | Fisker | i'm assuming direct control |
| 12:47.19 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 12:47.22 | jnwhiteh | don't let your penis fall off, k k? |
| 12:47.42 | Fisker | is that a condition or something? |
| 12:48.09 | jnwhiteh | Fisker'd |
| 12:48.21 | Fisker | i just think i'll be releasing control then |
| 12:48.27 | Fisker | backs away |
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| 13:04.28 | Adys | technically jnwhiteh |
| 13:04.32 | Adys | there is no "gold piece" |
| 13:05.00 | nevcairiel | sure there is, its made out of 100 silver pieces and duct tape |
| 13:05.09 | Adys | since the worth of one gold is directly given by the worth of 100 silver coins |
| 13:05.13 | Adys | which are themselves 100 copper coins |
| 13:05.27 | Adys | because you cannot otherwise split 1 gold into twice 50 silver |
| 13:05.42 | Adys | so it would be "there is still the worth of twenty thousand gold available now" |
| 13:05.43 | nevcairiel | you carry a big bag of change |
| 13:13.16 | Fisker | they should remove copper and silver from the game! |
| 13:15.32 | Adys | man |
| 13:15.38 | Adys | it's absolutely insane |
| 13:15.54 | Adys | good AH plan depending on your server: Go to silithus, farm air elementals for 10 minutes |
| 13:16.04 | Adys | sell 30-40 essences of air for 30 gold each |
| 13:16.24 | Adys | 7000 gold per hour |
| 13:16.27 | zenzio | pity the flight there is 10 minutes+ |
| 13:16.33 | Adys | l2hearthstone |
| 13:16.49 | zenzio | I for one haven't had my hearthstone in Silithus since AQ |
| 13:17.08 | Adys | the other day was awesome |
| 13:17.15 | Adys | went to silithus to get the elder |
| 13:17.19 | Adys | got the elemental invasion |
| 13:17.24 | Adys | farmed for 10 minutes,killed the boss |
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| 13:17.37 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 13:17.41 | Adys | got an orb of deception which i sold for 1500 gold, an ace of elementals sold for 200 gold |
| 13:17.47 | Cairenn | hugs Lopeppeppy |
| 13:17.49 | zenzio | hai peppy! |
| 13:17.50 | Adys | and 35 essences of air, each sold for 28 gold each |
| 13:17.54 | zenzio | got your strawberry thing now? |
| 13:17.56 | Lopeppeppy | oh hi |
| 13:18.00 | Adys | hi peppy |
| 13:18.22 | theorbtwo | Allo, Lopeppeppy! |
| 13:18.32 | krka | i heard you liked the word each so i put an each after an each so you can read each and each and each |
| 13:18.38 | theorbtwo | So, did you follow multiple instructions, and sleep well? :) |
| 13:21.04 | Lopeppeppy | oh hell no, I rebelled like mad. *sigh* |
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| 13:29.34 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:34.37 | Fisker | cncfanatics! |
| 13:43.00 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Aw. |
| 13:43.16 | theorbtwo | Fisker: you hack computer numeric control machines? |
| 13:44.23 | recluse | Is sure fits the part better. 'is gold', 'are gold'. Are would make sense if the correct term for multiple gold was used 'is golds', 'are golds' (insert your favorite plural version). IMO, it is a problem with the WoW cultural misuse of 'gold' as both singular and plural. =/ |
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| 13:46.33 | haste | but but but |
| 13:46.39 | haste | we have 300 gold pieces! |
| 13:47.32 | krka | i thought gold was an uncountable |
| 13:50.26 | recluse | hmm |
| 13:52.22 | recluse | does it need a second helper noun to be used correctly, then? pieces/coins/etc? |
| 13:54.25 | theorbtwo | recluse: Yes. |
| 13:55.02 | krka | uncountables use singular form i think |
| 13:55.11 | theorbtwo | OTOH, it's perfectly reasonable to assume that "gold" is short for "gold piece(s)", and you just shorten it, making "is gold" and "are gold" both correct. |
| 13:55.21 | krka | "that is a lot of data" |
| 13:55.29 | krka | "those are a lot of data" <-- wrong |
| 13:55.49 | theorbtwo | OTOH, normally the verb should agree with the subject, "the price is 200 gold pieces". |
| 13:56.23 | krka | yeah |
| 13:56.33 | krka | sort of like "the price is 10 chickens" |
| 13:56.38 | recluse | lol |
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| 14:05.35 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:05.37 | Wobin | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wow.com/media/2010/03/aa-collateral-1024.jpg |
| 14:05.59 | Grum | Wobin: hehe |
| 14:06.11 | Wobin | that's some nice placement =) |
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| 14:13.01 | Grum | Wobin: meanie :( |
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| 14:20.34 | Fisker | i hack u theorbtwo |
| 14:21.13 | theorbtwo | Wobin: Impressive |
| 14:21.26 | theorbtwo | Fisker: But I'm not "cnc", I'm "jmm"! |
| 14:22.08 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 14:22.10 | Shirik | i hack u |
| 14:22.26 | Fisker | Shirik i'm assuming direct control of you |
| 14:23.35 | Shirik | nope |
| 14:23.46 | Shirik | EDI has already indicated you cannot assume direct control |
| 14:24.11 | Fisker | actually your mother |
| 14:24.19 | zenzio | Fisker can't assume direct control of you because EDI is in direct control of you? |
| 14:24.49 | Shirik | yup |
| 14:25.21 | zenzio | I thought most people bought submissive fembots, not dominatrixes |
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| 14:27.54 | Lopeppeppy | you code what you covet |
| 14:42.29 | cncfanatics | Fisker! |
| 14:44.48 | Cide | it is official |
| 14:44.52 | Cide | Shirik is avoiding me |
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| 14:56.09 | Fisker | cncfanatics ! |
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| 15:00.02 | cncfanatics | Fisker! |
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| 15:00.59 | Fisker | cncfanatics! |
| 15:05.36 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5485359/ubisoft-making-emergency-changes-to-pc-drm |
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| 15:12.01 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/pizza_delivery.jpg |
| 15:13.56 | boshi23 | why are the essence of air selling for so much ? what are people using them for ? |
| 15:15.17 | Kraps | holy shit http://us.media.blizzard.com//wow/anniversary/_images/ilovesc/wallpapers/battlecry-wide-1680x1050.jpg |
| 15:16.40 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/stevie_wonder_twitter.jpg |
| 15:16.54 | Shirik | wtf Cide no I'm not :( |
| 15:16.59 | Ackis | ping Arrowmaster |
| 15:17.25 | Cide | mikma: that's evil |
| 15:18.38 | mikma | cide: eeeeexcellent |
| 15:20.03 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/funny-pictures-cat-likes-his-present.jpg |
| 15:20.13 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 15:21.34 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/5_4_3_2_1_fail.png |
| 15:22.32 | Ackis | OLD |
| 15:22.57 | haste | LY:U OUD! |
| 15:22.58 | mikma | old like fisker's balls? |
| 15:23.16 | haste | Fisker's ball aren't old! |
| 15:23.33 | mikma | older than his brains |
| 15:25.30 | Shirik | mikma: lol |
| 15:27.20 | mikma | http://proofpronto.com/porn-detection-stick-by-paraben.html |
| 15:28.11 | Tepel | awesome |
| 15:28.39 | Ackis | http://tweetphoto.com/13180990 |
| 15:30.19 | Fisker | lé fu |
| 15:32.11 | Fisker | play jc2 yet ackis? |
| 15:32.31 | Fisker | btw is it me or doe Velen look a lot older than he should be on that battlecry? |
| 15:32.54 | Ackis | jc2? nein |
| 15:33.08 | Fisker | do it fgt |
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| 15:36.17 | mikma | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info15610-TidyPlatesBeta5.10.html <- beginning to look niz |
| 15:37.10 | Fisker | the circles are threat? |
| 15:37.38 | mikma | yeah |
| 15:40.02 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgG3eRYQfpE |
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| 15:45.19 | Ackis | Hey Thomas how is SC2? |
| 15:46.24 | Shirik | hey Ackis how is SC2? |
| 15:46.39 | Ackis | dunno |
| 15:46.42 | Ackis | haven't played it |
| 15:47.15 | Shirik | that was the joke |
| 15:47.18 | Shirik | you were supposed to rage |
| 15:47.28 | Ackis | oh |
| 15:47.31 | Ackis | oops |
| 15:49.16 | mikma | poops |
| 15:50.16 | Ackis | did that this morning before I showered |
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| 15:53.21 | Shirik | you rage? |
| 15:53.43 | Elkano | tbh, I'm not really that interested in SC2... I tend to suck in RTS like SC or WC |
| 15:53.46 | Adys | wasnt there a way to enable timestamps in the default client? |
| 15:56.50 | zenzelezz | which client? |
| 15:59.29 | Gnarfoz | the wow client, duh |
| 15:59.37 | Gnarfoz | and no Adys, I don't think so |
| 15:59.51 | zenzelezz | they were talking about SC2, I wanted to make sure |
| 15:59.53 | Adys | meh |
| 15:59.56 | Adys | i thought they added thatr |
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| 16:01.19 | zenzelezz | they have timestamps on the combat log |
| 16:01.28 | zenzelezz | but not normal chat, as far as I can see |
| 16:08.08 | Shirik | Elkano: I dominate at SC2 |
| 16:08.10 | Shirik | ask ScytheBlade1 |
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| 16:15.09 | mikma | foxlit: god damn, OPie looks really hot now |
| 16:19.13 | zenzelezz | now? What changed? |
| 16:25.21 | mikma | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw34563.png |
| 16:25.40 | olafski | is that different than what it is now? :s |
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| 16:25.54 | Grum | that looks just how it is now O.o |
| 16:26.23 | mikma | and it should |
| 16:26.36 | mikma | didn't look that good before |
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| 16:38.44 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425638487&sid=1 |
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| 16:40.33 | xqo | Making asparagus tasty. Possible? |
| 16:41.26 | Bruners | nope |
| 16:41.50 | Bruners | they are best at taking space in the trash can |
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| 16:42.19 | Kaso | Asparagus is tasty, period |
| 16:42.26 | Kaso | what are you doing to it to make it not tasty? |
| 16:42.58 | Bruners | i would guess puking after eating them makes them tasteless |
| 16:43.02 | xqo | nothing, I don't know how to try |
| 16:43.16 | xqo | How do you make asparagus tasty without a lot of work? |
| 16:43.20 | xqo | can you eat them raw? |
| 16:44.48 | Lopeppeppy | Steam them gently, and eat only the nice tender tips, not the nasty stems. |
| 16:45.02 | Kaso | yeah ^ |
| 16:45.04 | Lopeppeppy | I like with a little lemon juice and butter. |
| 16:45.14 | Kaso | asparagus soup is pretty cool too |
| 16:45.48 | xqo | soo not raw, ever? |
| 16:46.17 | Lopeppeppy | Well... maybe the very very tips. But not so very good raw. |
| 16:46.48 | Kaso | steaming really is the usual way to do it |
| 16:47.24 | Fisker | http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4946/5231267701872847.gif |
| 16:48.28 | Kaso | that picture has so many uses! |
| 16:48.31 | xqo | oki, thank you |
| 16:48.54 | xqo | so, steam - dont boil + butter |
| 16:50.36 | xqo | In Norway we have an asparagus-festival |
| 16:50.40 | xqo | for freaks |
| 16:52.11 | xqo | oh yes, and Kirk sucks |
| 16:52.15 | xqo | picard is king. |
| 16:53.34 | zenzelezz | engage! |
| 16:58.47 | theorbtwo | Er, um... what does tht have to do with anything? |
| 16:59.18 | theorbtwo | Also, Sisko. No competition. |
| 16:59.31 | durcyn | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/03/mobile-market-share.jpg those canadians really like apple |
| 17:01.45 | Ackis | yeah gonna call bullshit on that |
| 17:02.20 | Ackis | blackberry isn't mentioned at all for Canadia |
| 17:02.42 | olafski | they only mention 4 for each region it seems |
| 17:02.53 | olafski | maybe blackberry is less represented than sony psp? :s |
| 17:03.00 | Ackis | no it's not |
| 17:03.21 | Ackis | it's a Canadian company for crying out loud (RIM) |
| 17:03.36 | olafski | he did post his source though |
| 17:03.51 | olafski | either the source is wrong or the picture.. or neither =) |
| 17:04.17 | Ackis | just saying BB's are > 4% :P |
| 17:04.21 | Ackis | might not be #1 |
| 17:04.29 | olafski | wonder where statcounter got their data |
| 17:04.55 | olafski | maybe apple.com is the only site that gathers data for it ;) |
| 17:05.10 | foxlit | mikma: Yeah, I decided it shouldn't look like crap without BF :) |
| 17:05.17 | olafski | StatCounter Global Stats are based on over 5 billion hits per month, by a random sample of people worldwide, to 3 million global websites, covering multiple interest areas and geographic locations. |
| 17:05.21 | olafski | hmm |
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| 17:09.20 | Ancu | Just finished watching 2012 |
| 17:09.46 | amro | bad |
| 17:09.57 | zenzelezz | wow, Microsoft Billing (or whatever the department is called) have decided to not be like most people and have [this year] -> [this year + 3] in the expiration year for your credit cards... no, their list goes from 2004 to 2027 |
| 17:10.17 | zenzelezz | you know, just in case you want to pay with an expired card |
| 17:10.58 | durcyn | i do that all the time. |
| 17:11.09 | Ackis | I was waiting to see it live |
| 17:11.32 | Fisker | zenzelezz you do know the new CC's has like a 12 year expiration date or so? |
| 17:11.34 | Fisker | and even more right? |
| 17:11.51 | Cide | MORE POWER |
| 17:11.53 | Fisker | My cc is like 6 years old and lasts until 2012 |
| 17:12.03 | durcyn | Fisker: his complaint was the 2004, not the 2027, you mook. |
| 17:12.05 | zenzelezz | Fisker: none of the cards that I received over the past 5 years have |
| 17:12.12 | Fisker | FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 17:12.16 | Fisker | haha durcyn |
| 17:12.17 | Fisker | it wasn't |
| 17:12.18 | Fisker | pwnt |
| 17:12.25 | zenzelezz | it was, but I was responding to you anyway |
| 17:12.28 | Shadowed | Yea, mine don't go over 3-4 years |
| 17:12.29 | Fisker | nahuh |
| 17:12.39 | zenzelezz | I really feel sorry for Fisker |
| 17:12.46 | zenzelezz | he used to be a good troll, but now he's just a shadow |
| 17:12.48 | Fisker | The funny thing is that i'm on my 3rd CC already though |
| 17:12.52 | Shadowed | be nice |
| 17:13.22 | Fisker | zenzelezz it's a shame you can't edit your previous statement to reflect reality |
| 17:13.28 | Fisker | [18:10:00] <zenzelezz> wow, Microsoft Billing (or whatever the department is called) have decided to not be like most people and have [this year] -> [this year + 3] in the expiration year for your credit cards... no, their list goes from 2004 to 2027 |
| 17:13.32 | Fisker | just in case you missed it |
| 17:13.47 | durcyn | 11:10:17 < zenzelezz> you know, just in case you want to pay with an expired card |
| 17:14.02 | durcyn | not "A CARD FROM THE FUTURE" |
| 17:14.11 | durcyn | i rest my case, you're a mook, the end. |
| 17:14.18 | Fisker | [this year] -> [this year + 3] |
| 17:14.21 | Fisker | he still made a mistake |
| 17:14.30 | durcyn | look at you trolling for the sake of trolling |
| 17:14.32 | Fisker | I successfully trolled regardless |
| 17:14.35 | Fisker | the end. |
| 17:14.44 | durcyn | you're like the masturbating bear of freenode |
| 17:14.56 | Ancu | 0_o |
| 17:14.59 | Fisker | does he drive a car? |
| 17:15.00 | zenzelezz | he can't help it |
| 17:15.50 | Fisker | i love you zenzelezz |
| 17:15.54 | Fisker | you know that right? |
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| 17:21.44 | Thunder_Child | actually durcyn i think that would be tekkub |
| 17:26.58 | foxlit | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/03/500x_mobilepatentsuits.jpg |
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| 17:28.20 | Fisker | htc were all like "pheeeeeeew" |
| 17:28.24 | Fisker | until a few days ago |
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| 17:32.26 | durcyn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MOgkobVxFc |
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| 17:35.15 | zenzelezz | so for gigabit ethernet... Cat-5E or Cat-6? |
| 17:35.28 | durcyn | 5e's fine, don't let them lie to you |
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| 17:39.08 | foxlit | /hate the new escapist video player ad |
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| 17:54.32 | olafski | heh I was annoyed by that too this morning |
| 17:54.51 | olafski | doesn't really matter that much but I find it annoying that they keep finding more obtrusive ways to spam me with that stuff |
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| 18:01.49 | Fisker | i hope activision get's f'd in the a |
| 18:01.52 | Fisker | gets* |
| 18:03.02 | Shirik | thwacks Fisker |
| 18:03.21 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Cat-5E legally won't get you very far on gigabit |
| 18:03.27 | Shirik | by "legally" I mean by the standards |
| 18:03.36 | zenzelezz | very far as in? |
| 18:03.43 | Shirik | it can go a lot more than the standards, and you're probably ok, but according to the standards you really aren't supposed to |
| 18:03.51 | Shirik | as in I think the length at gigabit speeds is like 10 feet |
| 18:04.13 | Shirik | but it can probably go to something like 200 before you'll notice a difference |
| 18:04.18 | Shirik | a server would notice a difference, you wouldn't |
| 18:04.23 | nevcairiel | eh, we've successfully used 5e on 75m cables with full bandwidth |
| 18:05.13 | Shirik | like Isaid |
| 18:05.18 | Shirik | the standards are a lot more restrictive than real life |
| 18:05.34 | Shirik | really the only thing I've found the standards accurate on length are for CSMA/CD |
| 18:05.40 | Shirik | Those are absolute requirements |
| 18:05.49 | Shirik | but that's just because of the way CSMA/CD works |
| 18:06.05 | nevcairiel | yeah it has to define a maximum delay to wait for collisions |
| 18:06.09 | nevcairiel | which is at about 100m, iirc |
| 18:06.13 | Shirik | sounds right |
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| 18:08.04 | nevcairiel | wikipedia fails to mention any limit for 1gbit, and i dont feel like reading a standard |
| 18:08.29 | Shirik | I should have a easy table somewhere |
| 18:08.31 | Shirik | just not with me right now |
| 18:08.39 | Fisker | you need Category 7 cables for 1 Mbit ethernet |
| 18:09.16 | Shirik | you need cat 8 cables to connect to Fisker |
| 18:09.25 | Shirik | cat 8 == biohazard safe |
| 18:09.31 | Fisker | oh snap |
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| 18:09.56 | nevcairiel | 802.3ab seems to describe 1000BASE-T with a maximum length of 100 meter |
| 18:10.20 | Fisker | Cat 7 = We heard you like shielding... |
| 18:10.59 | theorbtwo | OTOH, if you are running switched you can't collide, so it's a nonissue. |
| 18:11.08 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I believe that's the CSMA/CD limit though |
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| 18:17.57 | cog|work | grrrrr why does so much crap fall through the world and attack you while being unattackable as a mage? |
| 18:18.01 | Kraps | "You have asked Firefox to connect securely to thottbot.com, but we can't confirm that your connection is secure." |
| 18:18.10 | Shadowed | Thottbot is still running? |
| 18:19.05 | Kraps | The certificate expired on 2/28/2010 2:30 PM. |
| 18:21.00 | Kraps | Shadowed: they have the best... um worst forums evar |
| 18:21.10 | Shadowed | thottbot has forums?! |
| 18:21.32 | Kraps | sadly |
| 18:21.36 | Shadowed | Oh wow it does |
| 18:22.19 | Ackis | past month I've had 2 nails in the fucking tire |
| 18:22.21 | Ackis | wtf |
| 18:22.35 | Lopeppeppy | spring thaw puts crap on the road |
| 18:22.37 | zenzelezz | maybe you should cut your nails more often |
| 18:22.53 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:23.00 | Lopeppeppy | oh hi |
| 18:23.04 | Shadowed | Morning peppy |
| 18:23.13 | Lopeppeppy | hi2U2 |
| 18:23.14 | Shadowed | how was driving with one hand with spring thaw on the road |
| 18:23.53 | Lopeppeppy | came early so I'd avoid parking issues, that's the only tricky part, parking in actual spots with other cars around. |
| 18:27.14 | Shirik | Shadowed: I won't ask where the other hand was |
| 18:27.34 | Shadowed | Shirik: but you just did |
| 18:27.46 | Shirik | no I didn't |
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| 18:27.48 | Shirik | I made no question |
| 18:27.56 | Shadowed | implied question |
| 18:28.14 | Shirik | what you infer from my statements is not my problem to address |
| 18:28.18 | Shirik | I cannot control your mind |
| 18:28.28 | Shadowed | Sounds like your fault not mine |
| 18:28.29 | nevcairiel | but you wish you could |
| 18:28.42 | Shadowed | who wouldn't |
| 18:29.03 | Shirik | ok someone just posted to a security mailing list |
| 18:29.17 | Shirik | "They are still testing it and do not know precisely when it will be released. This is confidential information. DO NOT DISCLOSE!" |
| 18:29.28 | Shirik | why would you write that? |
| 18:29.31 | Shirik | on a public mailing list? |
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| 18:33.11 | Shadowed | I will have you know Shirik, everything I say in this channel is confidential, any logging done for heuristics in your bot is breaking the law |
| 18:34.07 | p3lim | using :SetNormalTexture() on a button, is it possible to set the color to that texture aswell? |
| 18:34.18 | p3lim | Tried :GetNormalTexture():SetVertexColor() but no go |
| 18:34.41 | cbreak | do textures have a vertex color? |
| 18:34.53 | cbreak | they shouldn't even have vertexes |
| 18:35.46 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#Texture (no idea how uptodate that is) |
| 18:37.19 | cbreak | seems they should have |
| 18:37.48 | batrick | Shirik: hi |
| 18:37.55 | batrick | you owe me a game of chess |
| 18:38.34 | p3lim | Got it now, just didnt set the proper texture |
| 18:38.52 | Lopeppeppy | shirik, are you being mean about my hand surgery? |
| 18:39.02 | p3lim | :GetNormalTexture():SetVertexColor() worked just fine |
| 18:39.40 | Shadowed | Shirik is always mean |
| 18:39.42 | Shadowed | it's a proven fact |
| 18:40.26 | Ackis | hjahahahah |
| 18:40.38 | Ackis | my fiancee will not let me get a karaoke game for the xbox like lips |
| 18:40.46 | Ackis | they just released a free demo |
| 18:40.47 | Shadowed | Ackis wise woman |
| 18:40.49 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, I <3 you I would never be mean |
| 18:41.02 | Ackis | Shadowed: I'm DLing the demo :D |
| 18:42.38 | Lopeppeppy | bad monkey |
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| 18:46.13 | Lopeppeppy | stitches come out tomorrow, then I can have stawberry quik! |
| 18:48.00 | Kraps | fail so bad |
| 18:48.26 | Kraps | the elite dragons in coldarra keep killing me |
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| 19:03.45 | foxlit | cbreak: do textures have a vertex color? << Yes. |
| 19:03.52 | foxlit | You can do neat tinting stuff with it. |
| 19:04.39 | cbreak | textures usually don't have vertexes, but in wow it seems different |
| 19:05.33 | nevcairiel | textures are usually applied to geometric objects, and those have vertices then |
| 19:05.48 | nevcairiel | the texture object is just a quad applied with the texture |
| 19:07.03 | mikma | foxlit: good decision imo =) |
| 19:07.23 | foxlit | mikma: saves me from having to deal with BF, too. |
| 19:08.29 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2010/03/advice-do-not-get-a-circumcision-on-craigslist.html |
| 19:08.41 | Ackis | apparently that's not common knowledge |
| 19:09.54 | Shirik | is that SFW? |
| 19:10.07 | Shirik | you know what, forget it |
| 19:10.08 | Ackis | consumerist.com is yes |
| 19:10.14 | Shirik | I refuse to open ackislinks in public venues |
| 19:10.26 | Ackis | I don't link NSFW w/o putting NSFW :P |
| 19:10.39 | Thunder_Child | so you open them in private? thats even more disturbing |
| 19:10.42 | Ackis | but the URL tells the whole story |
| 19:13.04 | p3lim | There, finished my new totem addon: http://p3lim.net/images/totemz.jpg |
| 19:16.04 | Thunder_Child | interesting, Dairy Queen is a bigger burger chain that in-n-out. i didnt even think dairy queen was a burger place |
| 19:18.04 | Thunder_Child | http://www.flickr.com/photos/preshaa/3847027500/sizes/l/ |
| 19:19.01 | Ackis | oh activision, how I wish you would go away |
| 19:19.48 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: we don't have in-n-out's here in Canada, yet Dairy Queens are all over the place. |
| 19:19.57 | Fisker | lol |
| 19:20.10 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: what part of 'dairy' says hamburger to you? |
| 19:20.12 | Fisker | so some guys are complaining about lag in WoW |
| 19:20.38 | Fisker | so someone asks them what internet they have and someone says i have that thing called "inter-net" |
| 19:20.49 | Fisker | i suggest sneakernet ;o |
| 19:21.21 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: what part of in-n-out says hamburger to you? :P I think oil change when I hear that name |
| 19:21.35 | Fisker | i like activision |
| 19:21.43 | Ackis | you're a fanboi |
| 19:21.46 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: at least it's not a direct contradiction |
| 19:21.47 | haste | Fisker: http://od-streaming.p4.no/p4pub/innslag/2010/Mars/300891.wma |
| 19:22.44 | Ackis | McDonalds doesn't suggest burgers either... the name is just synonymous with a burger joint here /shrug (They make great burgers too btw) |
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| 19:23.08 | Kalroth | haste: they're singing for Fisker! |
| 19:23.41 | haste | :D |
| 19:24.09 | KarlKFI|work | McDonalds makes great burgers? |
| 19:24.15 | KarlKFI|work | since when |
| 19:24.23 | Kalroth | Adys is obviously trolling |
| 19:24.50 | Fisker | what is it about haste ? |
| 19:25.10 | haste | Fisker: someone wishes a song for their kid, and the radio person can't find it |
| 19:25.23 | haste | Fisker: so she just plays some random track from the artists discography |
| 19:25.28 | haste | Fisker: which is about masturbation |
| 19:25.43 | Adys | yes I am |
| 19:25.43 | haste | Fisker: (this is the happy birthday song for a 10yo) |
| 19:25.44 | Fisker | niiiiiiiiiice |
| 19:25.47 | Adys | how did you uncover my skirt |
| 19:25.49 | Adys | I mean my plot |
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| 19:34.46 | Ackis | wow who knew Fisker was a mac user: http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=9377045&postcount=2 |
| 19:39.24 | Fisker | my hate face Ackis |
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| 19:41.26 | mikma | http://www.dinkybox.co.uk/acatalog/Kidrobot_-_Futurana.html <- ME WANTS |
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| 19:49.20 | mikma | http://www.gotfuturama.com/Multimedia/AsciiArt/dispatch.cgi?target=HypnoSebastian |
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| 19:51.16 | Shirik | !!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:53.17 | haste | ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ |
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| 19:56.10 | cog|work | â¼â¼â¼â¼â¼â¼â¼â¼â¼â¼ |
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| 20:00.36 | Lopeppeppy | 11111111 |
| 20:01.25 | zenzelezz | that's over 9000 |
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| 20:02.15 | Vilkku | so |
| 20:02.20 | Vilkku | my epic mod |
| 20:02.31 | Vilkku | checks some buff times, among other things |
| 20:02.48 | Vilkku | whenever the duration is full |
| 20:03.02 | Vilkku | it fails the check, saying the duration is low |
| 20:03.31 | Vilkku | does anything obvious come to mind? |
| 20:03.49 | Vilkku | (I'm raiding and can't paste code) |
| 20:03.58 | zenzelezz | without seeing some code, it's pretty tough to say |
| 20:04.33 | foxlit | grumble grumble, 500ms latency in wow |
| 20:04.43 | foxlit | Yet only 40ms ping time to that server. Wonder what's up |
| 20:05.16 | zenzelezz | your keylogger is taking too long to pass on the data |
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| 20:06.38 | foxlit | oh hai failia |
| 20:07.07 | zenzelezz | it really pisses me off when people who are driving when drunk/high try to use that as an excuse to get a milder sentence |
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| 20:07.23 | zenzelezz | "he doesn't remember being chased by the police or hitting the officer" |
| 20:07.28 | zenzelezz | well okay then, nevermind! |
| 20:07.30 | foxlit | Isn't DUI a harsher punishment by default? |
| 20:07.55 | zenzelezz | this is Norway, we don't have harsh punishments |
| 20:08.17 | foxlit | You have punishments proportional to income |
| 20:08.21 | foxlit | That's a special brand of awesome |
| 20:08.26 | zenzelezz | no we don't |
| 20:08.34 | zenzelezz | the worst you can get is 21 years |
| 20:08.48 | zenzelezz | most never get more than a few years for serious crimes |
| 20:09.06 | zenzelezz | and in fact, violent crime usually rewards shorter sentences than financial crime |
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| 20:13.53 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, now I'm getting prank calls Canada, eh! |
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| 20:15.03 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: that's what happens when Cairenn doesn't get enough sleep |
| 20:15.06 | haste | the cat is mindfucking me :( |
| 20:15.24 | foxlit | Hey, fisker, how's your wow ping? |
| 20:15.26 | haste | it meows at the left side of the chair, then silently moves to the right side and meows |
| 20:15.29 | haste | repeat x30 |
| 20:15.47 | zenzelezz | sounds like a normal cat |
| 20:16.12 | haste | yeh pretty much |
| 20:16.21 | haste | only its mother is batshit crazy :D |
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| 20:19.37 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn would leave me a kiss-kiss message at least, not just hang up! |
| 20:19.56 | Lopeppeppy | And seriously, someone from Quebec is getting long distance international charges to hang up on me multiple times this afternoon. |
| 20:20.59 | haste | I like how it climbs up on like the higest point in the room (which is just under the ceiling) to then jump down into my bed |
| 20:21.03 | haste | repeat x3! |
| 20:22.54 | nicoli_s | must be ackis |
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| 20:23.44 | kd3 | neat, as seen from the ISS: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Aurora_Borealis.jpg |
| 20:23.58 | Adys | very cool |
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| 20:28.39 | Thunder_Child | fail clarity |
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| 20:29.02 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, go play more karaoke games! |
| 20:33.27 | Thunder_Child | http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kv4wntrf9z1qzbasvo1_r1_500.png |
| 20:36.17 | foxlit | The graph is plainly wrong. All math jokes are funny. |
| 20:36.27 | Lopeppeppy | Spiders are much cuter in real life |
| 20:36.52 | haste | I'll agree with Lopeppeppy on this |
| 20:37.26 | Shadowed | what |
| 20:37.31 | Shadowed | how are spiders cuter in real life |
| 20:38.11 | Lopeppeppy | the legs wiggle more engagingly |
| 20:38.54 | Fisker | We're getting reports where users are getting intermittent low FPS after installing these drivers. It seems that it is related to the fan control included in these drivers not working correctly and is causing the video card to overheat on 3D applications. This will affect Warcraft 3, World of Warcraft and StarCraft 2 Beta. Please uninstall the drivers and revert back to the older ones. |
| 20:38.57 | Fisker | ffffffffuuuuuuuuuu-? |
| 20:39.15 | haste | owned |
| 20:40.20 | foxlit | Haven't seen it happen |
| 20:40.22 | Lopeppeppy | sweet, what card set? |
| 20:41.12 | Fisker | idk |
| 20:41.17 | Fisker | doesn't happen here atleast |
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| 20:42.06 | nevcairiel | works for me, too |
| 20:42.19 | nevcairiel | just the gpu downclock seems to be broken |
| 20:42.25 | nevcairiel | its running on full clock all the time |
| 20:42.28 | Thunder_Child | tekkub: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/bacon_love |
| 20:45.02 | Thunder_Child | http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cat_know |
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| 20:48.46 | Fisker | oh well according to GPU-Z my GPU is 60 degrees |
| 20:48.51 | Fisker | so no problems here ;3 |
| 20:49.06 | Fisker | mine doesn't seem to fuck up downclocking eiter |
| 20:49.08 | Fisker | either |
| 20:49.48 | Fisker | or actually it does |
| 20:49.53 | Fisker | my GPU load should be 100% QQ |
| 20:50.58 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbN3NU4hIZg |
| 20:51.04 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/genius_but_dishonest_scoring_a.php |
| 20:51.10 | foxlit | Hm. Driver: ForceWare 196.21 |
| 20:51.15 | foxlit | What did they recommend downgrading from? |
| 20:51.21 | nevcairiel | dunno |
| 20:51.42 | Fisker | 196.75 |
| 20:51.48 | Fisker | works fine here though |
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| 21:19.11 | Lopeppeppy | listening to Grand Boss flail at setting up his webcam is making me nearly pee my pants avoiding laughing out loud. |
| 21:19.27 | Adys | nevcairiel: please tell me Im not crazy |
| 21:19.41 | Adys | DeprecationWarning: callable() not supported in 3.x; use isinstance(x, collections.Callable) |
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| 21:19.49 | Adys | please tell me Im not the one who finds this the lamest shit ever |
| 21:20.01 | amro | I'm sure Shirik would find it lame as well. |
| 21:20.06 | Shadowed | You are crazy |
| 21:20.22 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy: How hard is it to setup a webcam, don't computers do it themselves now and days |
| 21:20.48 | amro | I think it's stupid to force static typing idioms in a dynamic language |
| 21:20.54 | amro | checking for .__call__ should be enough |
| 21:21.00 | amro | that's the whole point of duck typing |
| 21:21.04 | mikma | adys: i found some truly awesome code today! |
| 21:21.21 | mikma | adys: http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info15541-IdCheckThat.html |
| 21:21.40 | mikma | I'd check that, if i were you!! (see what i did there???) |
| 21:21.45 | Adys | vaguely |
| 21:21.51 | Adys | amro: point is, it's not |
| 21:21.53 | Adys | for example |
| 21:21.59 | Adys | strings don't have an __iter__ method |
| 21:22.12 | amro | then that's the problem |
| 21:23.06 | amro | static typing idioms have no place in a dynamic langauge |
| 21:23.10 | amro | some people use decorators to add typing to method arguments as well |
| 21:23.11 | amro | insanity |
| 21:23.38 | Adys | yes but |
| 21:23.42 | Adys | is it lame or is it just me. |
| 21:23.47 | foxlit | mikma: it burns. |
| 21:23.55 | amro | I just typed a wall of text saying it's lame |
| 21:24.00 | Adys | k good. |
| 21:24.09 | amro | but I want to say it's just you being lame |
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| 21:26.16 | amro | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/10/feb/exactlylikeheavyrain.jpg |
| 21:27.38 | Adys | this is making me giggle uncontrollably |
| 21:28.18 | foxlit | wonder how often sc2 leagues reevaluate assignments |
| 21:33.04 | DWSR | http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/774649--conservatives-eye-new-lyrics-for-our-national-anthem <--- Fucking please. |
| 21:33.42 | durcyn | hey, they changed the pledge in the 50s, ain't unprecedented. |
| 21:34.16 | DWSR | durcyn: Did you see what they want to change the phrase in question to? |
| 21:35.08 | DWSR | The change makes the phrasing ugly as sin |
| 21:35.38 | durcyn | also, who cares, it's canada |
| 21:35.50 | durcyn | change your anthem to "we're america's hat, ey?" |
| 21:35.51 | DWSR | durcyn: Need I remind you of all the achievements we won in the last olympics? |
| 21:36.06 | DWSR | Canada has earned the achievement [Most Gold Medals at the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics]! |
| 21:36.14 | DWSR | Canada has earned the achievement [Most Gold Medals at a Winter Olympics]! |
| 21:36.17 | durcyn | whatever, as soon as OPEC stops selling us oil, your happy asses are annexed anyway. |
| 21:36.24 | Adys | yes, you already did that joke. |
| 21:36.25 | DWSR | Canada has earned the achievement [Most Gold Medals by a Host Country at a Winter Olympics]! |
| 21:37.12 | amro | DWSR has earned the achievement [Most Repetitions of a Joke] |
| 21:37.16 | DWSR | durcyn: America would rather invade OPEC countries than Canada, I'd wager. |
| 21:37.31 | DWSR | amro: Definitely not. I point to "Over 9000". |
| 21:37.38 | DWSR | Assertion failed. |
| 21:37.55 | amro | Consecutive*, then |
| 21:39.09 | DWSR | amro: Depends on your definition of consecutive, though still, probably not. |
| 21:39.29 | amro | my definition of consecutive just happens to be "consecutive" |
| 21:39.34 | Ackis | DWSR: U.S. Eh! |
| 21:39.49 | DWSR | Ackis: At least you spell it right. |
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| 21:44.00 | Dashkal | facepalms |
| 21:44.06 | Dashkal | Don't we have more important things to take care of? |
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| 21:49.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Cidwel (~53376cb3@gateway/web/freenode/x-vledqgzdunsuxfwg) |
| 21:49.36 | Cidwel | hi guys |
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| 21:51.17 | Cidwel | I have a miniquestion: ¿is there a way to detect when players logout (after logout or disconnect)? I can only detect when a player joins the world (a simple RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE event), but I can't detect when they are disconnected :S |
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| 21:51.48 | ckknight | Cidwel: yea, pretty sure there's an event |
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| 21:51.58 | ckknight | for any given unit, UnitOffline("unit") should work |
| 21:52.02 | ckknight | I could be wrong about the function name |
| 21:52.10 | ckknight | might be UnitIsConnected("unit") |
| 21:52.12 | ckknight | that makes more sense |
| 21:52.15 | Cidwel | yeah ckknight i tried to /eventtrace it and there's not an event |
| 21:52.24 | Cidwel | only I can detect that their buffs fade off |
| 21:52.25 | ckknight | hmm |
| 21:52.35 | ckknight | I think in PitBull I run a timer every second |
| 21:52.38 | ckknight | possibly |
| 21:53.00 | Cidwel | I mean, if really i could use unitIsConnected or something like this, I still need an event @@ |
| 21:53.13 | DWSR | !api UnitIsConnected |
| 21:53.13 | lua_bot | UnitIsConnected: Returns whether a unit is connected (i.e. not Offline) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitIsConnected) |
| 21:53.24 | Cidwel | I though that RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE would fire but it doesn't did |
| 21:53.39 | Cidwel | *ah , I'm sorry if my english is too bad, i'm not too good at this ;_; |
| 21:54.08 | Cidwel | dwsr but I need an event to fire that method :s |
| 21:54.16 | DWSR | Cidwel: There isn't. |
| 21:54.24 | Cidwel | do'h |
| 21:54.47 | DWSR | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/PARTY_MEMBER_DISABLE <-- Actually, there is. |
| 21:54.55 | Shadowed | That's only for party |
| 21:54.56 | Cidwel | but... I need it for raids |
| 21:54.59 | Cidwel | ...yep |
| 21:55.05 | Shadowed | ckknight: It's some weird combination of RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE and UNIT_HEALTH |
| 21:55.11 | Shadowed | if you watch both of those, you can determine online/offline |
| 21:55.17 | Cidwel | ...¿why the hell there's not an event? |
| 21:55.28 | Cidwel | but raid_roster_update doesn't fire |
| 21:55.31 | ckknight | don't ask us |
| 21:55.33 | Shadowed | Use both |
| 21:55.34 | ckknight | just the way it is |
| 21:56.02 | Shadowed | UNIT_HEALTH is the most "accuratE" thought |
| 21:56.07 | Cidwel | ... obviously I wasn't asking you for this but it's so strange that there's not an event |
| 21:56.15 | Cidwel | unit_health fired yep |
| 21:56.18 | Cidwel | i'll try |
| 21:56.43 | Shadowed | Welcome to working with Blizzards UI :p |
| 21:57.02 | Fisker | ckknight |
| 21:57.07 | ckknight | yes? |
| 21:57.07 | Fisker | i'm assuming direct control |
| 21:57.12 | ckknight | no. |
| 21:57.14 | Fisker | oh |
| 21:57.18 | DWSR | lolwin Fisker |
| 21:57.20 | DWSR | ~Fisker++ |
| 21:57.36 | Fisker | so only Kaelten left to assume direct control of |
| 21:57.52 | Kaelten | hrm? |
| 21:58.48 | Cidwel | but unit_health fires a lot, (i need it for a premades addon) I need something to combine with unit_health, I think that there's no way. So strange that raid_update doesn't fired when a user disconnects |
| 21:59.11 | Shadowed | How about this, what are you trying to do |
| 21:59.20 | Shadowed | Do you want to track how long someone is offline? |
| 21:59.21 | foxlit | Cidwel: dwsr but I need an event to fire that method :s << You could use CHAT_MSG_SYSTEM |
| 21:59.28 | foxlit | On the principle of "has gone offline" messages |
| 21:59.32 | foxlit | hack, but hey |
| 21:59.47 | Cidwel | but "has gone offline" is only for friends i think.. |
| 21:59.53 | Shadowed | It is, and guild |
| 21:59.57 | Shadowed | and the latter only if it's enabled |
| 22:00.02 | DWSR | Cidwel: It fires for raid members, akshully. |
| 22:00.09 | Shadowed | Eh? Since when |
| 22:00.28 | DWSR | Shadowed: It was firing for me last night. |
| 22:00.39 | DWSR | Though, I had some guildies in my raid, so maybe not. |
| 22:00.41 | Shadowed | That doesn't sound right, but I can't check right now |
| 22:00.46 | Cidwel | whoa? Shadowed, I simply want to make a mod that alers in /raid when a premade player disconnected, and spam their premade group and blaa blaa |
| 22:01.12 | Cidwel | ..... i think it isn't dwsr >_> |
| 22:01.28 | Shadowed | Cidwel: Then watch UNIT_HEALTH, when you zone into a battlegroup stop watching help, when you leave a battlegroup start watching it |
| 22:01.43 | Shadowed | Or poll for updates if you don't want up-to-the-second offline info |
| 22:02.55 | Cidwel | unit_health in a BG could be so much insane in a BG ·_· |
| 22:03.02 | Cide | grr |
| 22:03.08 | Cide | I hope Cidwel doesn't become a regular |
| 22:03.15 | Cide | I need to copyright C-i-d |
| 22:03.20 | DWSR | lol |
| 22:04.03 | Cidwel | sorry, cide, mi nick is about CideNickYearsOld-1 years ago |
| 22:04.19 | Cide | what? |
| 22:04.41 | DWSR | Cide: He's saying his nick is older than yours by about a year.\ |
| 22:04.56 | Shadowed | Cidwel: Checking a single API call is really not that bad. Worry about performance later |
| 22:05.15 | Cide | I totally don't get how what he says would translate into that, DWSR |
| 22:05.22 | Cidwel | .... but I want to worry about performance ;_; |
| 22:05.26 | Shadowed | don't |
| 22:05.29 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 22:05.30 | Cidwel | omg ;_; |
| 22:05.33 | Shadowed | Cide: Cide.years_old - 1.year |
| 22:05.40 | Cide | yeah |
| 22:05.45 | Cide | so let's say my nick is 10 years old |
| 22:05.47 | Cidwel | Cide, leave it plz ;_; |
| 22:05.48 | Cide | then his would be 9? |
| 22:05.54 | Shadowed | true |
| 22:05.55 | Cide | no, I like exposing stupid math |
| 22:06.10 | Shadowed | Be nice :p |
| 22:06.15 | Cide | hey, he stole 75% of my name |
| 22:06.26 | Shadowed | Shirik stole the first two characters of mine! |
| 22:06.36 | DWSR | IS UNIQUE. |
| 22:06.50 | Cidwel | .... YEAH |
| 22:07.05 | DWSowned | this shall be my new identity |
| 22:07.10 | DWSR | Go for it. |
| 22:07.14 | DWSR | Stops me from getting highlights. |
| 22:07.27 | DWSRowned | this shall be my new identity |
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| 22:07.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 22:07.39 | DWSR | Hey Seerah |
| 22:07.44 | Shadowed | Speaking of name thiefs |
| 22:07.47 | DWSRowned | Hey Seerah |
| 22:11.12 | Shadowed2 | lol wut |
| 22:11.39 | Seerah | hihi |
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| 22:11.42 | Shadowed | err |
| 22:11.44 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-m] by Shadowed |
| 22:11.47 | Shadowed | I guess I can't set that per name :( |
| 22:11.51 | Shadowed9001 | lol |
| 22:12.01 | Shadowed | hmmm |
| 22:12.02 | Shadowed9001 | I believe it's chmode a? |
| 22:12.07 | Shadowed | It's +q I think |
| 22:12.11 | Shadowed9001 | No idea. |
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| 22:12.16 | Shadowed | Good job by the way ckk |
| 22:12.22 | ckknight | cogwheel: now you know not to steal my name. |
| 22:12.23 | cogwheel | :) |
| 22:12.50 | cogwheel | i knew before. It was a calculated risk :P |
| 22:13.23 | ckknight | hehe |
| 22:14.08 | Ackis | dry-codes your name. |
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| 22:19.58 | Ackis | ~dict teamster |
| 22:20.10 | Ackis | :| |
| 22:22.53 | Shadowed | Now the best part of the day |
| 22:23.02 | Shadowed | drycoding 10 files and trying to run it |
| 22:23.36 | Ackis | I did that quite often |
| 22:23.43 | Ackis | makes for lulz |
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| 22:41.02 | zenzelezz | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/10/03/04/1954259/Researchers-Find-Way-To-Zap-RSA-Algorithm - intriguing |
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| 22:44.46 | Cide | and why did you think nsa has been controlling your power sockets all along? |
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| 22:49.27 | Shadowed | When you only have to fix 3-4 errors when drycoding, you know something bad is going to happen |
| 22:50.13 | WobWork | huzzah |
| 22:50.16 | WobWork | common sense has prevailed |
| 22:50.25 | WobWork | the client has agreed that an exit survey is not feasible =P |
| 22:50.30 | Shadowed | haha WobWork |
| 22:50.32 | Shadowed | grat |
| 22:50.43 | zenzelezz | exit survey? |
| 22:50.55 | Shadowed | You should celebrate |
| 22:51.04 | WobWork | They had seen a site, that pops up a survey on leaving the site |
| 22:51.07 | WobWork | and wanted that for their site |
| 22:51.26 | Shadowed | Oh is that where that silly site that had a popup after 2 minutes came from |
| 22:51.30 | WobWork | yeah |
| 22:52.39 | WobWork | I was not looking forward to finagling the phrasing on the onunload dialog to encourage people to fill out a survey =P |
| 22:53.07 | WobWork | "You are about to leave the current page <Insert custom message here> Click OK to continue, and Cancel to stay on this page" |
| 22:53.31 | WobWork | So not conducive to any sort of "Please fill in a random survey" =P |
| 22:53.44 | Shadowed | "Fill out the survey OR I GIVE YOU A VIRUS" |
| 22:53.55 | WobWork | "Click OK to continue" =) |
| 22:54.07 | zenzelezz | when to ask users to fill out a survey is tricky business |
| 22:54.29 | zenzelezz | think IBM (or Microsoft? Or maybe both) had them timed after a few minutes, which felt too soon |
| 22:54.33 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. the answer is usually nevr :P |
| 22:54.34 | zenzelezz | was long ago |
| 22:54.45 | Shadowed | I don't think surveys for websites are ever good ideas |
| 22:54.59 | zenzelezz | no, but that doesn't stop management from forcing them on you |
| 22:55.07 | Shadowed | sad but true |
| 22:55.23 | WobWork | if you want people to fill out surveys |
| 22:55.26 | WobWork | you have to make them fun |
| 22:55.34 | WobWork | and actually perhaps part of the site navigation |
| 22:55.54 | WobWork | Design the site to filter people through your desired channels |
| 22:56.02 | WobWork | and track the page clicks to where they go |
| 22:56.31 | WobWork | The further they go in your site, the more invested they are in that information |
| 22:56.54 | WobWork | course, the tough part is making a site interesting enough to keep people's attention that way |
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| 22:57.12 | WobWork | cause the internet is fickle |
| 22:57.23 | WobWork | Isn't it, imbrandon? |
| 22:57.31 | imbrandon | yup it is |
| 22:57.36 | WobWork | nods |
| 22:57.39 | imbrandon | dunno what the context was, but yea |
| 22:57.42 | imbrandon | lol |
| 22:57.57 | NightHawkTheSane | context is largely irrelevant |
| 22:58.05 | NightHawkTheSane | irrelavent? hmm |
| 22:58.11 | WobWork | irrelephant |
| 23:00.52 | WobWork | rofl http://twitter.com/neilhimself/status/9994699354 |
| 23:01.31 | Shadowed3 | WobWork |
| 23:01.32 | Shadowed3 | i peed |
| 23:07.28 | WobWork | What happened to Shadowed2? |
| 23:07.33 | Shadowed | Killed him |
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| 23:08.09 | WobWork | Why didn't you do it with 3? |
| 23:08.19 | zenzelezz | guess he hadn't registered that? |
| 23:14.18 | Shadowed | WobWork: Because I fear the overlords wrath |
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| 23:26.23 | Shadowed | see WobWork, this is what happens when you summon her |
| 23:26.52 | WobWork | Look Cairenn. KITTENS! |
| 23:26.59 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:27.02 | WobWork | points wildly into the distance |
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| 23:30.31 | cogwheel | http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=a-bushel-of-facts-about-the-uniquen-2010-03-01&sc=DD_20100302 |
| 23:31.48 | ScytheBlade1 | holy crap, I rebooted and have 3D accel in linux. With an entirely reverse engineered driver. |
| 23:31.58 | kd3 | noveau <3 |
| 23:31.59 | ScytheBlade1 | wasn't even expecting that |
| 23:34.56 | Lopeppeppy | is this positive? |
| 23:35.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Incredibly. |
| 23:36.39 | Lopeppeppy | excellent then |
| 23:37.02 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: getting better yet? |
| 23:37.20 | cogwheel | i hope the antibiotics are doing their job... |
| 23:37.28 | Shirik | rawrs |
| 23:38.55 | Shirik | hopes Lopeppeppy is getting better |
| 23:39.12 | DJJeff | drools............. |
| 23:39.14 | DJJeff | http://i45.tinypic.com/16m0xog.jpg |
| 23:39.28 | DJJeff | proto drake in the underbelly |
| 23:39.37 | DJJeff | with me on it :) |
| 23:39.51 | Lopeppeppy | antibiotics make me sick. :( but the original sick is getting better, I went to work today! |
| 23:39.58 | Lopeppeppy | and the stitches come out tomorrow |
| 23:40.14 | Shirik | yay |
| 23:40.14 | nicoli_s | yay! |
| 23:40.15 | DJJeff | I am alishar, champian of the frozen wastes |
| 23:40.16 | cogwheel | \o/ |
| 23:40.20 | Shirik | I YAYED FIRST GTFO |
| 23:40.25 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 23:40.36 | cogwheel | i said i hoped she was getting better first so U |
| 23:40.43 | Shadowed | So you can open your own Quik bottles tomorrow Lopeppeppy |
| 23:40.47 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 23:40.50 | cogwheel | Fisker |
| 23:40.52 | Fisker | i'm assuming direct control |
| 23:41.04 | zenzelezz | Shirik's yay lacked enthusiasm |
| 23:41.25 | Lopeppeppy | Shadowed, I damn well better be able to! :) |
| 23:41.31 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy: yay! |
| 23:41.32 | Fisker | you wouldn't zenzelezz |
| 23:41.42 | ScytheBlade1 | time to go shopping on newegg! |
| 23:41.49 | Shirik | for quik? |
| 23:41.52 | Lopeppeppy | what for? |
| 23:42.14 | ScytheBlade1 | A computer! |
| 23:42.22 | zenzelezz | I don't get that name (newegg) |
| 23:42.22 | Shirik | oh is this your excuse |
| 23:42.29 | Shirik | you're scared that I'm going to beat you in SC2 |
| 23:42.33 | Shirik | so your computer "magically breaks" |
| 23:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | er. |
| 23:42.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Really Shirik, really? |
| 23:42.42 | Shirik | :P |
| 23:42.47 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm mildly insulted. |
| 23:42.47 | foxlit | shirik is in evil usland? |
| 23:42.48 | Shadowed | ScytheBlade1: I already challenged Shirik in a fight to the death at Blizzcon |
| 23:42.51 | Shadowed | don't worry |
| 23:42.58 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:43.12 | Lopeppeppy | the desktop is a dinosaur! |
| 23:43.13 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: tread lightly. Any insult against me is likely to be an insult against Lopeppeppy |
| 23:43.22 | Lopeppeppy | Rawrness |
| 23:43.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: your problem, not mine. |
| 23:43.32 | Shadowed | But we like Lopeppeppy, she's awesome |
| 23:43.34 | Shadowed | you're the evil one |
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| 23:43.44 | Shirik | so stop insulting her |
| 23:44.10 | zenzelezz | if you're going to try twisting words, you need to stick to some level of coherence |
| 23:44.40 | kd3 | "wha?"s |
| 23:44.51 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:45.07 | zenzelezz | Shirik seems to like to inject unspoken things into other people's sentences |
| 23:45.19 | Shirik | no |
| 23:45.27 | Shirik | I merely speak the truth! |
| 23:45.32 | Shirik | The truth nobody else is willing to speak |
| 23:45.33 | Shirik | *sagely nod* |
| 23:45.35 | Shadowed | Everyone speaks the truth |
| 23:45.41 | amro | true story |
| 23:45.42 | zenzelezz | you're confusing truth and lunacy |
| 23:45.48 | sylvanaar | wow |
| 23:45.48 | Shadowed | is that the truth zenzelezz? |
| 23:45.48 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I love you but you're weird. |
| 23:45.50 | Shirik | are they so radically different? |
| 23:46.11 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy: I'm not sure whether I am to be delighted or insulted |
| 23:46.17 | zenzelezz | the problem is you behaviour makes you sound like Fisker |
| 23:46.21 | zenzelezz | this is not something to be proud of |
| 23:46.24 | cogwheel | "true story" will forever make me think of Pat Robertson |
| 23:46.25 | Fisker | hey u Shirik |
| 23:46.36 | sylvanaar | Fisker is a bot |
| 23:46.53 | foxlit | people are like "carriers are overpowered" :/ |
| 23:47.05 | Cidwel | umm why shadowed told me that unit_health could be the best event to detect people when they disconnect? I mean, ¿why ·_·? |
| 23:47.21 | foxlit | Haven't yet seen anyone go that way in 1v1 |
| 23:47.27 | Shadowed | Because that's about the best you can do to get event driven connection status :p |
| 23:47.42 | amro | I'm guessing it gives them 0 health |
| 23:47.49 | amro | so check for connection status on 0 health? |
| 23:47.51 | Shirik | zenzelezz :( |
| 23:50.19 | Lopeppeppy | weird isn't bad, dear. |
| 23:50.27 | Lopeppeppy | Also I am weird. |
| 23:50.28 | Kraps | polearm error? |
| 23:50.52 | Fisker | I'm not a bot zenzelezz |
| 23:51.23 | Shirik | Fisker: Totally what a bot would say |
| 23:51.28 | Shadowed | amro: No clue, it just does :p |
| 23:51.42 | amro | does what? |
| 23:51.59 | Fisker | nahuh Shirik |
| 23:52.14 | amro | ~whalepunt Fisker |
| 23:52.15 | purl | ACTION looks onward as an everest-sized whale called Victor punts Fisker across Soviet Russia (No... you don't punt whales there) |
| 23:52.24 | kd3 | huh, crazy |
| 23:52.31 | kd3 | there are two quests alliance can do in durotar |
| 23:52.40 | foxlit | or so everyquest claims |
| 23:52.42 | amro | dem crazy goblins |
| 23:52.57 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 23:52.58 | kd3 | I just did them |
| 23:53.02 | kd3 | looks at rc on the wiki |
| 23:53.03 | Fisker | what 2 quests are those? |
| 23:53.19 | kd3 | winds in the desert / securing the lines |
| 23:54.08 | Fisker | ah |
| 23:54.11 | Fisker | the one with the goblin |
| 23:56.00 | Fisker | i kinda like you kd3 |
| 23:56.50 | Kraps | noscript is more trouble than it's worth :/ |
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